#2306 - Deric Poston

32:09Yeah, it was drinking and it was also he needed a tribe You know, and he had the tribe a little bit when he was in California You know, but he was always on the road a lot You know, and he just decided that being in the center of the country was better So he was like patient zero of the Austin revolution. Yeah, like a lot of people think it was me But it was really Ron because I came here knowing that Ron was here. I was like at the very least Ron's here, you know, it's two of us. I'm like I'm not living like this in California. You're not doing this to me I know what you're doing. I was like the the the fucking caged animal in me is like I'm getting out This is not this is gonna go sideways.

32:46I'm not gonna be a part of this. Yeah, fuck you Okay, at least Ron's there. I was like my life is gonna be worse than it ever was before my life is gonna be all my friends are gone They're not here. I'm in the middle of the country. Maybe I'll see him every now and then maybe I'll have to book shows to see them But at least Ron's here. That's that's where I decided patient zero. Yeah, he was patient zero So you know, and now he hangs out every night and get we get Ron every night. Oh, he's lovely He's the young love. He's lovely. We were hanging one time This is my favorite on story and it's me.

33:16It's just me you and Ron in the green room and you gifted him A really nice Rolex and you guys are having a sweet moment And I couldn't leave all day to see it. I was like, damn, this is really cool And you gifted it to me y 'all are having a conversation like wow and he takes off his Rolex And he tossed it to me. He was there you go Derek and I go holy shit wrong for real. He says fuck no broke me in my back you idiot and then you went so you go that's the most I've ever seen Ron I forgot about that It was so evil You literally run. Why would you do that? Well, I thought he was just giving out Rolex Something this big.

33:52He's got those gonna be a great moment my face was like That's hilarious, but he's the man dude. I can't leave on friends with him because I've been a fan since I was a kid I feel it same way Yeah, I feel that way about a lot of guys like I can't believe I'm friends with you. It's nice It's not well, that's good right you never stop being both a fan and a person who does it. Yeah, I try to separate it I'm I try to separate me as a comic off stage versus me as a comic on stage. I really do You know, so I could just be a fan Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but when I was younger, I used to watch someone going Oh, I would do it differently like if they suck.

34:29I'll do that if they suck. I'll go like all that premise. Oh, I I think This is not explaining this very well, you know, I mean I start picking it apart that way But I like to just be a fan. I don't like to just watch because I think a lot of people are real hesitant to give up flowers Right as you know, I'd like to say yeah But the reason why is because they don't feel good about comparing themselves to this person who may be doing better than them So they there's a feeling like Ah, he's all right. He's all right. There's a little bit of that, you know, which I don't like that It doesn't make sense to me either because watching this game for the 10 years.

35:08I've been doing it. It's like oh like There's no like I everyone tells me that Sebastian used to was like nobody knew that he was gonna be the big one of the biggest arena Actually we've ever seen when he first started when he was coming around you hear before comments Yeah, be like oh, he was good, but you didn't see that form So it's like oh there is no point to judge somebody harshly because this game is long is yeah The game's long and you figure things. I was terrible. I started. There's no way to not be especially me I was socially retarded. I've been hitting the head 150 ,000 times. I mean There's some funny issues there There's some issues and I was socially retarded because I spent like from age 15 to 21 Just did nothing but travel around the country fighting people.

35:47That's all I did So my version of a young adulthood was very weird like it was a hundred percent competition. Yeah, that was all it was You know, that's all I did when you hear Joey talk about you when you were younger like he was an animal You know like Joe was just an animal before you apparently started smoking wheat He was like you were way more different about it But I think a lot of fighters have a hard time transitioning into being a regular person And I was only an amateur fighter You know, I was I couldn't imagine being a guy like you know Like Dustin Porje who's about to retire, you know like transitioning to be in a regular person He's been this fucking savage killer for so long for so long at the highest level like that's like the highest level in the world Inside the octagon knocks out Connor McGregor.

36:37Yeah, and you're like Wow And that guy's got a transition to being a regular person for me. There was no Screaming crowds. It was weird high school auditoriums and trying to give people concussions That's all it was that was all it was So but there's no glory and no money and it cost me some of my health, you know for sure There's you know and fear constantly living in a state of anxiety that you're gonna have to fight again soon Constantly constantly and for some weird reason I was like why am I doing this to myself? I don't have to do this like this isn't doesn't pay me any money. I don't have to do it Why am I why do I keep signing up to do this?

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39:08But there was no money. I remember I got offered five hundred dollars to do a kickboxing fight And that was so if I did that kickboxing fight I couldn't fight amateur anymore and I was like five hundred dollars So then I can't like if I ever decided to like try to compete in the Olympics again Because I was trying to get on the national team to compete in the Olympics But somewhere along the line I got a little disenchanted with taekwondo and one of the ways that it happened is I started kickboxing And I started getting beat up because my hands were dog shit So like I was really good kicking But if if I got into boxing and changes, I was terrible my chin was up in the air I was fucking swung in punches like a bitch It was awful.

39:46I could hit really hard if I hit you you're in trouble But it was not good And so I realized like oh there's a giant flaw in this like for actual real fight This is a giant flaw in this and as soon as I started kickboxing Particularly this friend of mine was a really good boxer Dana Rosenblatt. He was one of my training partners And he became a new England Mid -Away champion He beat Vinnie Pazzy ends In a decision he lost him one fight and then beat him in the decision. He was legit He knocked out Howard Davis Jr. Who was a Olympic gold medalist He was a bad motherfucker And he also when I was training with him made me realize that I didn't really want to do this anymore That I was just doing this because I had done it my whole life And this was like what I decided I was doing And I was like not only is there no future in this there's a lot of brain damage coming my way Like 100 % I'm getting it right now And you know just sparring with Dana me and him sparring We I don't know how many times we spar but we would beat the fuck out of each other dude Damn really?

40:45Oh Oh it's horrible. Yeah I'd go home with headaches And if we were in boxing range he was tuning me up So I was always trying to stay on the outside because his hands were way better than mine But we cracked each other. Oh you and Dana white would know. No, no, no my friend Dana Rosey Okay, I was like no, no, no, no, no, no, no But if me and Dana were friends we would do that too. Yeah, I spar with a lot of my friends We beat the shit out of each other It was horrible, but that's how you that we have to do You know what the beautiful thing about Jiu -Jitsu is above kickboxing is you you don't have this kind of animosity with your sparring partners Because like if you're in a good gym In kickboxing you're always hurting each other and he's like even if you love a guy and you spar with them You're always hurting each other so you always have this thing where you like fuck that dude.

41:31I do give me a fucking headache You think about getting them back Like you think about it. He cracked you with a left foot. You're like I am gonna get him back I'm gonna get away to get him back Whereas with Jiu -Jitsu you can't wait to tap somebody, but you're not hurting each other You know if you get hurt it's an accident The injuries in Jiu -Jitsu are usually either strain related or you know, you didn't tap right? It's either you strained to get out of something or you pulled yourself the wrong way or you didn't tap Put it in kickbox like you're getting your legs are getting fucked up every day Wham no matter what then those pads they help a little Damn, they're huge show those pads when they look like it when I watch the other little Yeah, if somebody kicks you like if Israel out of Sonia kicks you pull those pads on that You can you can't believe the kind of agony that's involved in that way to make a living So I was only doing it because I didn't know what to do I was still doing but I wasn't the same person that I used to be I was at one point in time I was just a mad dog and then I realized like I'm gonna get really hurt and there's no future in this You know wow where you already one foot in one foot out or did you just stop you two feet in but you were like You know what it was really I had one fight when I fought I fought in the nationals in anaheim And I beat the first guy so I got into the second round and the second guy was this I think he was from Illinois I don't remember but he was like super aggressive and I hit him With the hardest wheel kick I've ever thrown in my life.

43:01It was perfect. He charged in with like a a left switch kick So he was like uh did a hopping roundhouse kick off the left side And I recognized it right away. There was a pattern He was making this pattern when he was moving He would do this thing and then he would always do this He'd do this thing and then he was always do this So I saw that pattern and I said here comes and so he went with this hopping roundhouse kick I countered with this wheel kick and I hit him so hard that my heel was sore for days I was limping for days Because the way my heel bounced off his face Any face planted snoring They snore when they go out if you've ever seen anybody get knocked out.

43:40Oh yeah, they're on the internet Well, I'd seen it a few times in the gym. It's spooky. It's spooky And so my thing when I would always do when I knocked somebody out is walk away like it was nothing like that's what I always do Like that's what I do. Yeah, I just I didn't celebrate. I just would turn my head and walk away And I was talking to my friend Junksek who was he was US national champion He was a training partner one. He was sitting in the seat and I said I'll never forget I'm like he's moving He's like he hasn't gotten up And so then they get him an ambulance and so they put this kid on a stretcher And they have him sitting out there for 30 minutes and he's just on the stretcher for 30 minutes And then they bring him in the ambulance and they take him to the hospital And I'm like yeah When he said he's not he wasn't moving yet.

44:29Did you feel like yeah, he could be dead So this is what scared me So I had this trainer My were this instructor Who's like one of the best taekwondo instructors in the world And I say to him You know He said to me he said he goes I heard you had a really good knockout at the nationals And I said yes sir. I said it was it was kind of scary because I thought like I thought for a while that he was dead And he goes Sometimes they die And he walked away. I was like oh Jesus Oh Jesus Christ Oh Jesus Christ and he was fucking serious. He's the trainer. He's the trained troops in Vietnam Like he was a hard core dude.

45:17He was hard core. Oh my god. Sometimes they die. How sometimes they die Yeah, I think it was Vietnam where train troops. I forget where he train troops But he was like in a elite taekwondo instructor and he was his mind was like His name is master j -hun Kim and he's the the guy who runs the j -hun Kim taekwondo institute like that's his business And that's that's the place where I can't mean he was like one of the few guys that was trained under general Che young yeat who was the founder of taekwondo so like there's a handful of black belts that were trained by this one guy So it was like a different style So their style was a very violent and very power oriented Whereas there was like an Olympic style that was emerged That was emerging that was very points oriented.

46:03It was just move fast and like tap and score And they would yell and shit like that like every time they'd hit they'd scream out And so the Olympic style was more effective at winning tournaments And so the best guys were adopting like this Olympic stuff, but there was an older style that was just That maybe they telegraphed the moves a little bit more and maybe it was a little slow but the impact was very different Those guys were killers. Yeah, they were knocking people unconscious. It was very scary So that's the gym that I grew up in so I had this very fortunate Place that I just stumbled into You know happen to be like one of the best taekwondo gyms in the country Especially for generating power Because they like really emphasize heavy back work like he really emphasize heavy back work It's like you have to check right power if you hit somebody and it doesn't hurt.

46:52That's ridiculous You got you got to be able to hit someone to just pull it them out Would you get into a lot of street fights before this or no Even before before taekwondo you weren't even Before taekwondo I was a pussy Really? Yeah, I couldn't find it all so like why would I get in fights? I was trying to get away from fights Look everybody. I was terrified So I just got tired of being fucked with because I was a pussy because I would get nervous You can't move around a lot. I didn't have a lot of friends So we moved a bunch times and I was a kid So it was always around new kids and I wasn't big so they would fuck with me You know, it's just normal.

47:27So yeah, and I didn't know how to fight so I bothered to shit out of me And so my well, there's only one solution You know, you got to become what you're scared of so you put yourself into taekwondo you were like hey, I want to do this Yeah, it got a job started working washing dishes at Newport creamery got enough money So I could take taekwondo lessons Holy shit And then I started going every day so After a while he realized like it would be better if I was just there all the time instead of working and so he gave me a job I did not know that about teaching so I started teaching when I was like 15 I was teaching people when I was 15 and then when I was 19 I was teaching at Boston University I used to teach a class a credited class.

48:10It was a past fail A Now tell everybody it becomes towards your GPA So I'd say if you Come here you get an A That's all you have to do just try you're gonna get an A and it counts towards your GPA And I just tell them that in the beginning of the class I go if you can't come if you can't make it just call me and tell me that you can't make it But I want you to come I want you to come every time you can and if you do that I'm gonna get you better and we're all gonna learn something We're gonna I'm gonna teach really get into this so I was really good at teaching Wow really really and that's how you were in there And the gym when we work out you had that same energy says like oh that came from a place Yeah, well that's what I was doing for a living So from 15 to 19 I was just teaching So with the what my instructor allowed me to do but I guess I was training after about six months or so he he said look This is you could train here for free All you have to do is teach private lessons and I was like great So I would teach people the new people I would teach them how to bow I teach them how to tie their guillon I would teach them how to stand I would teach them different different techniques And I would go through them and get them so they're ready to join into to group classes because you couldn't just go into group classes You wouldn't know what you're doing.

49:21Yeah like that like front kick you're like Looking around someone's got to teach how to do it So it was always like a big deal to let like one of your little birds loose into the main class Like you teach them get their front kick going get the side kick going to go through a series of private lessons I tell them to practice on their own look using the mirror give them a bunch of like things to think about as they break down the movements And you just literally I see you're doing in there that is what the mothership is It's really just a fucking dojo to get better Yeah, everything is about everyone pushing each other to get better and like learning together.

49:53Yeah, it's like Oh my gosh, you've been on this teacher shit But that's also what my instructor explained to me when I was really young too like I say this all the time I even said it on the podcast yesterday Marshall are to do a vehicle for developing your human potential. That's what it is It's just you're using martial arts as a way to get better at life Because this is a really hard thing and if you could do this really hard thing Other things won't be as hard you'll be able to you'll have more mental and physical horsepower for regular everyday life you'll have more ability to overcome adversity and weird moments uncomfortable moments you're used to being uncomfortable.

50:32It's fine. You'll be fine. It's different Wow, yeah See I came up I played football a college football Like I was a football player my whole life and that was that bro. That was another one for brain damage How's your head I'm addicted to training point of some problems So I got some problem. I got some videos too But I agree but the idea of like because that's so yourself you're dealing with finding your dealing with yourself You're always yourself or as I came my whole thing was team team You get to lean on people you're leaning on each other and and that's what's making you better is how do we play the best as a group?

51:07Right, you know, well, that's great too, and I think that's probably more beneficial to society So learning how to play a team my problem was like, you know when I I was a bad mother Handsome off then You look good look you look like a fucking model dog I went to one of that that's one of the top high school football schools in the back to looking like that You could look like that again. I know you just get away off the car I think they're so good Oh, they're so good I chose a pasta Oh, good, and then just because you stopped you told me the other day you haven't been drinking again You stopped drinking, right?

51:41Yeah, but more than a month now. Yeah, I could in some weeks you walked in and you were like Three weeks off boys I had all this fucking side fat and belly fat that just went away But most importantly, I just feel better like I never have days where I'm recovering from being drunk Like I sound like shit now because of allergies, which is hilarious because I always made fun of people I was like they're like yeah, three to five years you'll get allergies. I'm like shut up pussy I'm like at these fucking bitch ass allergies you guys get now here So annoying So annoying for everybody to be right Oh, yeah, my wife gets me on that honey natural if you get honey from a Local honey it gets rid of your allergies.

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55:19Is anything real? Isn't that crazy? How would they do that? China They get us These dummies that I'm gonna check Because you remember what she said Jamie what percent of she said but she did say that a lot of honey was fake honey, right Bro, it doesn't make sense because that's such a thing. It's been natural in my head since the dawn of time, right honey Have you ever seen those cats that uh in the Himalayas? I think that is it to bet where is it would they get that uh psychedelic honey Called mad honey remember Jamie Who brought that in for us We did it during the show Yeah, we we took some mad honey during the show.

55:59How was the trip? Sonny from best ever that's right. I showed brought it shout out to sonny um Uh, it wasn't I mean I was fine Really didn't do anything that crazy. You definitely knew that you were on something But we were he was like take a little bit of like fuck this give me a two spoon I told you spoon. I'm like let's go I'm like it's one of I want to go like Joey Diaz always says I want to meet the devil Fuck the microdosing I'm trying to meet the devil A full nugget of a mushroom don't tell the police Well, you're eating something. I don't know what it was. I think that that is the first thing we have to make legal We got to get Trump on mushrooms Just get him to have a little microdose.

56:49He'd be like I'm really killing the game You are telling the games, sir My wife is mushroom great. Yeah, gotta be crazy to him on mushroom. Oh my god So I have a politician should be on mushrooms all wars would end Do you know how crazy that is for me to say that and it's also true It sounds so stupid also because it's me and I'm stupid But if I But if like a scholar if someone who you really trusted the pinnacle of science today said if we could just go get the whole world on Mushrooms the whole all the wars would stop Is that like everyone would stop dehumanizing people Everyone would stop treating people like others.

57:24Everyone would realize like oh wow We're really all connected in some bizarre way that's difficult to interface with sometimes But we're all connected we get selfish and we think about ourselves only But if we cannot like that's like one of the beautiful things about camaraderie and community If you can not then you all sort of like lock in you guys like we're all experiencing this thing together We're all like one thing that's separated by biology But our our soul our spirit our whatever it is that is us inside of our meatbag Yeah, is a soul and it's connected to all the other souls in some strange way And if you can figure out it's almost like you're listening to some it's almost like There's jackhammers going off around you, but you hear a really good song in the distance like I can almost hear that song Almost beautiful.

58:19Yeah, like you ever be to restaurant everybody's talking, but there's just some jam Is playing on the radio? Yeah, just a Marvin gays that's what it's like that's what it's like I think there's different strategies that people used to try to get there and I think look God is one of them Like even the concepts of God I think what you're trying to do is to get to that place where you recognize like through strategies of like tactics of following commandments and having a mindset and and giving all your faith to Jesus and all your faith You're like just by act of doing that what you're doing is you're trying to get Closer and closer to whatever the fuck that that beautiful beautiful song is it's playing amongst all the noise You know, it's there.

59:06It's just like You're Yeah, oh my I remember I don't know who this comic said this, but it was great I always talking to this joke, but he said how people think they're Americans or Chinese or whatever But we're all on this planet like just zoom out Whatever you think you are just zoom out a little bit trap. It's just like the Republican Democrat trap It's just like the Texas California trap shut up. We're all just people We're all people and you that's one of the beautiful things about traveling you meet friends in Scotland You meet friends in Ireland you meet friends in Australia. You're fucking like people are just people man We're just all people we just we adapt to whatever our environment is we adapt to the culture or the way people Sound their words out, you know, yeah, I want to fit in if you want to fit in you move to the south it starts saying y 'all You know Oh Yeah, I say y 'all When you start, but I'm from Memphis, Tennessee.

1:00:06Oh, that's probably some so you do always have yeah, you've always had a y 'all pass Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna y 'all I was born in New Jersey in a mostly Italian for me y 'all is a stretch That's a that's I don't want to be disingenuous. Did they ever come out of you? No never for funzies Yeah, but it never accidentally comes out like y 'all y 'all gonna go you know that you know I'm 57. Yeah, I say you are you guys This week Like accents are weird, man You don't realize you have them until you hear them and you're like, oh, why don't I sound like that? It's impressive when you see people who can do them.

1:00:43I didn't know I had a deep Boston accent until I was on television for the first time When I was 19 I won the base -date games and I was on this like Local TV news thing and I got a chance to hear myself on TV. I was like, oh my god. It's so like a Fucking idiot Like heavy Boston accent. Yeah, you don't have it is bad. I got rid of it. Yeah. I'm like, that's a dumbass accent But then you started talking to everybody with a million different accents on the spot. So you I'm sure you've heard all the different versions. You get neutral after a while. I think your voice gets neutral But you're not all the way like newscaster neutral where it's just and now that's the opposite of comedy Right because that doesn't hypnotize anybody.

1:01:29Oh, no when that guy's talking the news like this is a presentation from NBC news Look at my tie look at the pocket square. I'm serious. I am a serious person Most of those guys are freaks. That's why I love when those guys get caught. Oh, yeah, just those guys are just doing coke and bang In a hero of gay men it's insane Valets or animals And then but on television. I present the news You know, they were in a cock ring and Fugged freaks all those like all those people that pretend to be proper those are ones you gotta keep your eye Yeah, they never have real opinions either. It's all just whatever.

1:02:10It's just a job People Cosby was the guy who pushed the most for clean comedy. Yeah, and that crazy. That's Is it though? Is it though like like scolding everybody for their language and their subject matter God, he was scolding me. Yes, that any Murphy bit. It's so good though when he told Richard prior that Bill Cosby He's like you making money. Yeah, out of people laugh. Yeah. Do you get paid? Tell Bill to have a coconut smile shut the fuck up That's one of the greatest jokes of all time It's so good. Well, it's so good too because any Murphy could do such good impressions. Yeah Yeah, and all the accents he's another one like this stop doing comedy like if any Murphy would have been bigger than all of them All the arena acts we were talking about before any Murphy would have been bigger bigger Bro, he was so good.

1:02:58He was so powerful go back and watch delirious. Oh my god. He was like 20 Hey, that's what's crazy whenever I do watch the lyrics. I'm like he was like 20 And he's got full command of this what four thousand cedar five thousand cedar murdering Where in a leather jumpsuit or some shit chest out Oh my god. Yeah, it's crazy. It's but it's interesting like people people the past they choose in life, you know Movies movies to be calling. I think it's a call velvet prison Yeah, I've heard you say that to a song once about writing jobs. That's a velvet prison. That's another velvet prison But like I'm sure Damon way inside a good time making all those TV shows But it wouldn't have been amazing to see him being this guy that's like sound out arenas all over the world like that's where should Still be doing it right now He could do it right now.

1:03:51He could just Abandon all that TV nonsense right now and go back to it and still be one of the best alive You know that records like every show He has a camera that he takes with them on a tripod. He sets it up records every fucking show and he puts them all on his computer He goes I've been doing this since 94 like wow Yeah That's so many fine and and how many specials he doesn't have no does not allow special. Yeah Compared to other guys where you see not compared to how good he is doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's crazy He just you know Someone's paying you you go you enjoy your work. You like it You know, it's another wrong with those decisions.

1:04:29It's obviously very successful But you know when you gotta think like when you see guys like shult sound arenas and birds sound out arenas and Tony Sounded out of reenis and it's like this don't you want to get it on that? Like oh man Talk to me, David. I help you. Oh my god. That's sick to see him make a comeback. Yeah. I'd love to see him do that. I just think After a while, do you really want to work for somebody? Do you really want to show up and You know read the script and do the table? I mean No, fuck I love just showing up eight o 'clock. Oh man. Get up four or five times in a night. Oh There's nothing I love it.

1:05:10I mean the idea of doing some stuff seems fun But the to make it my I saw a scientist. I was like man It's one of the we have one of the few jobs where people want this job. Yeah How many like very rarely do I see it? I don't know if there's no job where I'm like I'd like to really like to be that. Yeah, this is the job. It's one of them. That's for sure rock stars Probably the big one rock stars probably the biggest. Yeah, but I don't see the rock star thing They could sing the same ass song every night forever. Yeah, like if you're the Rolling Stones you could still sing brown sugar Can't sing anymore Come on you ever let's see the lyrics brown sugar.

1:05:50What are the actual lyrics? Oh What is it? This is the reason why they don't sing it anymore. It's a great song. Don't get me wrong It's still on my Spotify playlist, but if you I think it I might have pulled it out. I might get scared Which you see the lyrics that playlist is crazy long. It's great. Yeah, the play. We get we get typed up in there How do you do? I think that playlist was like 35 hours long now You keep that to me. I keep that to I love it Yeah, everyone's why 33 33 hours and 49 minutes. Yeah, I love when we're in there and they know I'll be like who the fuck is playing this and I look at me just like It's like Joe who got you on the black panther album Oh Yeah, I love a good random shit like if I'm in a bar and I hear some cool random song I love like that's why I love that shazam app.

1:06:39Oh, that's so nice up here. Here it is Yeah, gold coast slave ship bound for cotton field sold in a market down in New Orleans Scarred old slaver knows he's doing all right here. I'm whip the women just around midnight brown sugar How come you taste so good brown sugar just like a young girl should Oh, yeah, yeah Drums beating cold English blood blood runs hot lady of the house wondering if Wonder and where it's gonna stop houseboy knows that he's doing all right. You should have heard him just around midnight This song is crazy brown sugar. How comes he tastes so good brown sugar just like a young girl should oh, yeah, yeah Uh, get down on the ground brown sugar.

1:07:25How come you taste so good? Uh, get down get down brown sugar just like a young girl should I bet your mama was a tent show queen And all our boyfriends were sweet 16. I'm no schoolboy, but I know what I like you should have heard me just around midnight This song's crazy. He was fucking the jagger was losing his mind. This is a crazy song This is to write all this down slave ship. Did you say slave ship just like a young girl shit? What do you what? It brown sugar you taste so good in a market what and and it scrolled down a little bit This was another one that I'm not sure what they're saying here hold on Go scroll down a little bit.

1:08:03Oh, yeah, I bet your mama was a tent show queen What does that mean what does that mean what the fuck does that mean what is a tent show queen? What's a tent show Well, it's whatever it is she's getting fucked. That's something horrible. What's happening that tent that song? It's crazy so they don't play that song anymore when you go see the stones You saw him you've seen him live. Yeah, bro. You see him live. You can't believe you're they're really there They're like you're like was that really them? It just seems so strange a tent show Yeah, they're probably one of the if not another definitely one of the biggest bands of all tent shows are a generic Tom for traveling shows that pitch tents So a tent show queen would have been a feature performer probably in a vaudeville act If the song is progressing Forward in time the fact that she had a 16 year old's boyfriend suggests she's either extremely sexually liberal or more likely prostituting herself If she's prostituting herself the powered dynamic is reiterated a black woman at the mercy of paying white men Huh?

1:09:06What kind of fucking scholarly take on this yeah, I know as long as that What is that what are they saying? This is so direct weird No, that's fucking crazy those those are weird definition. Yeah, there's a website that gives you insight on lyrics It's crowd source, but doesn't necessarily mean it's accurate. Oh, I see I see because I'm reading that some like the power dynamic is reiterated what a Black woman at the mercy of paying white men Yeah, she advertises herself during the show and then sleeps on the side If what is that I'm not you know Those shows though ever seen any of those those black box shows used to be monster They were monsters.

1:09:48Yeah, we're monsters and carnory carnies would come into town These carnival people rob everybody and steal and probably murder Just dirty people traveling around trying to stay alive and conning people out of their money and You know the bearded ladies got fucking glued hair stuck their face. You know what did I pay to see? They still do that shit. Oh, yeah, we've heard this place called the box in London and they have one in New York too But the box no shouts took me this fucking psychopath We go to the boxes after the after we do royal Albert Hall. It's great night We go to the box around 2 a .m.

1:10:22That's when the show starts real one of those kind of shows 2 a .m 2 a .m. They take your phone and lock it up. Whoa Joe, there's people shitting on stage and rubbing themselves in shit and fucking each other on stage Why and putting crazy huge dildo rods on each other? Are you getting anybody in trouble by saying? No, it's so this is an organized business. This is the multiple of these the box. Yep, that's it And they were shit on each other shit no Joe Shit on each other. Did you worry about getting shit on you while you were there? How cool sweet of these people Oh, we have like a nice little booth luckily where you were salty and I say they put a no one to panic and get out of the building if shit starts flying around Oh, dude, it was crazy once people thought shitting public like I'm out I was dressed like a baby line.

1:11:06I don't have to be here in Boston That night I was great. I was ready to fight because I was about to fight children them I walked in and there's trannies. There's all you know, there's all kind of people in there right when I walk in with a big dude dress like a woman but a do I mean big ripped right just fucking reach for my balls and dick as we're walking in Oh, yeah, what the fuck man? I'm looking at but nobody else. He's this happened to me and him at this office and then he keeps walking and I'm now I'm on 10. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? I'm you know, I haven't fun anymore now. I'm ready to fight this is crazy This guy just like try to touch my dick what the fuck is going on Kevin Spacey.

1:11:38Yeah, and they think Kevin's facing me He fucking Kevin Spacey. I think I think amongst that community that is a common wave saying a lot Oh, it was working for I saw him later fucking haven't pretty much have a section with a guy later But you just got to take a chance you look like a guy's what he's trying to say I think he saw the flagrant I don't know what it's beautiful. Yeah, but maybe did see that out. That's what she'll say later probably Yeah, but we saw that out. I didn't know so I'm let's go I'm on tape but they think I'm on 10 because everyone's gay so shows and then we're like there you got to stop being homophobic man Like it's just a weird show and I was like I'm about to fucking kill you guys They got trying to grab my dick and it was just a whole it was like a curb your enthusiasm level of miscommunication But I mean it was one of the I've never been more mad really yeah, well I just uh the idea of some of a grown man touching my dick physically like that it was just it's very distressed like I don't like being Disrespective like that.

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1:14:36So visible. Well now you know switch today at visible dot com slash rogan terms apply See visible dot com for planned features and network management details Well, the magic being a woman in that happens. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, that's how I felt That's that's real there's this bad people out there, you know guys grabbing asses and bars and Beating up boyfriends. Yeah, you gotta be careful. You can run into the wrong dudes You know how people are jealous of you know other comics successful That ain't shit compared to like the way ugly dudes are jealous and handsome guys with a good -looking girl Who you know then that guy becomes the enemy look at this fucking pussy look at this fucking pussy with that girl Look at her at the fuck and they all those muts they all get together and speak mutt language Fuck him probably from out of town Probably from that other piece of dirt with all those pushies live Were you from pushy from that pushy town?

1:15:33Another town over road Some fucking rival baseball team to beat him when they're in seventh grade and they still haven't let go of it Yeah, they get pissed Yeah, there's a lot of idiots in the world man. They all need mushrooms All of them they all need much. Yeah. Yeah mushrooms would make you you to abandon all that town -y shit You're like, oh my god, so so he realized how big the world is yeah, I picked such a small camp Town of 2200 in the middle of Nebraska Shadows start fights with the people from Des Moines. Yeah, yeah, I was a faggots You People is as Ellie they're so silly got how fast would you have kicked that guy to oblivion if you try to grab your dick like that I well you don't want to just Escalate right to like extreme violence.

1:16:21That's what I told show something Why are you you look so angry and I was like bro I was on you know you hit that point where it's like I'm not having fun anymore I'm here now. You gotta be careful man people get stabbed people get shot people you don't extreme violence is Should be reserved for really defending yourself. Yeah You have to defend yourself and I know you're actually being attacked that guy was literally trying to have It's guy with Molly. I'm sure he's drugged up your own Molly. You're on this round that cocaine and you're fucking you're dressed like a fairy You should never exchange Violence with someone unless you fucking after you should do avoided at all.

1:16:53That's why I never had any street fights Like avoid it at all costs. I mean I had like one in high school. Why two two in high school They were nothing though no big deal But then once I started competing I was done with all that. Yeah, but if you do Toon somebody up like they die sometimes like what my instructor was saying is true Especially in the real world because people fall and they hit their head on the concrete That happens people die like that all the time they get knocked out their head bounces off the concrete and then they're dead Yeah, it's like getting a giant rock dropped on your head from like a second story building Yeah, think about what the earth is You know like the earth like the concrete is immobile and so hard and all of the weight of your 200 plus pound body falls backwards and your head bounces off that concrete and it's the most sickening sound God you hear it all the time while that mat when that's yeah, but that's like way safer Yeah, then getting knocked out on the concrete, but yeah, I do hear it all the time It's it bothers a shit out of me when I see someone's head bounce When they get KO and their head bounces off the ground like oh Bro, did you ever see the one when um Josh Emmett knocks out Bryce Mitchell?

1:18:10Oh my god dude is one of the worst one punch knockouts in the history of sport He knocks him out and Bryce Mitchell's legs are twitching and he's like locked up completely out cold And when he goes down now imagine someone gets hit like that on the street And you fall back like that on concrete so not only do you get Destroyed by the punch, but then you get destroyed again by the earth With covered in concrete bouncing off the back your head with all the weight of your body and leverage to the back The head is the first thing that hits Your head flies back and all this weight is bang Why says what this is a crazy knockout dude It's so fast you don't even really see his his legs start shaking Yeah, here DC sand he's shaking.

1:19:05He's shaking Joe. Oh my god flush flush and Josh Emmett is a little tank I mean he's 145 pounds for about five seconds till he weighs in then he probably weighs about 170 and he hits like a fucking mule Look at this. Oh, look at the back Oh, look how he's built man and imagine how much force is involved in that guy punching you in the face Oh the craze is what I ever seen live was we were together we were in Phoenix and it was when Tony Chandler kicked Tony Ferguson. Oh my god. That's one of the scariest ones. I remember I was Yeah, I was high too. I'm not sure so I was like Why you like your soul leave his body?

1:19:44I saw that Joe spiral back down It was scary. I remember how scared I was for this girl. I'm like. Oh my god. He hasn't moved and he just seen it That yeah, oh my god. I saw that live one of the best front kicks of all time. That's perfect. The technique is perfect I mean, that's a real picture. That's a lie that he made his face look like that. That's so crazy He looks like like a grandpa in a Pixar movie Oh, that was that was a scary that was the scariest one. I see but my favorite knockout I've ever seen was That I mean we were all in the green room. I don't know if you were there for this one, but it was witness weekend It was like 12 15 of us in that green room and it was when is he knocked out?

1:20:29Poet time knocked out. Oh my god. I got the greatest celebration of all time at all all time 45 your mind Yeah, that line sticks with your step the whole thing from beginning to end the three arrows into his body while he was down Breaks it. Yeah, is he looks at his son and then falls on his back to mock his son because his son and mocked him I said that's the reason he is years of Son who falls down like the kid did a little kid and then Then he pops back up and then he gives like the best post -fight speech in the history of the sport. It was like he wrote it already It was but I remember how beautiful I was feel this one time in your life.

1:21:09Yeah, here it is Oh Oh I mean Bro and then watch as he finds his son remembers he remembers like like points to you look you you you you check this out I can't like seven years old That's fucking So petty way remembered found oh yeah, he's like well. Yeah, check this out. Well, he like I forgot now Joe was he low on him was he when he was getting fucked. He was really getting fucked Okay, yeah his leg he told me that his leg was getting compromised already one of the things in the first fight So the first fight in the UFC Poeton wins and he wins by stoppage and is he said I wasn't even really hurt I just couldn't move because he had fucked my leg up so much.

1:22:10I couldn't get out of the way of his punches He's like what I wasn't hurt like real badly hurt to the point where he's wobbling He's like my leg wasn't working. He kicked the shit out of his leg He's his calf kicks are so nasty. He's like out of all the people in the sport He's the worst guy to have kicked your calves because he sneaks them in and there's two and three and before you know it Oh fuck my leg don't work anymore Now you're trying to get away. He's T and off. He got one leg and he's trying to dance and pretend So you're putting all the weight on this leg So you're trying to pretend like you got two legs, but he can tell He can tell he's done he hits it again, so he had his in real trouble, but he opened up too much He's open up too much and you know to order to like close in on someone and bang him out Like you got to leave yourself exposed sometimes there's risks to reward right in the the cautious Patient thing to do is you throw a lot of faints and then you throw your shots in but he was just T and off at this point And when you're just T and off You're assuming that the guy's incapable of countering in a to a certain extent or not.

1:23:12He's incapable You're you're taking the risk of getting countered You know, whereas if he just kept playing that game and like fainting and moving and slowly picking and poking and knowing He just charging a little too much He you know, he thought as he was hurt more than he was And then as he got him that right hand. He just fucking great one the greatest knockouts of all time Especially when you think about like the significance of it and you think about like historically You know two great champions one guy who had knocked him out in kickboxing and then knocked him out in the UFC And then he knocks him out cold and gets petty Get And then so petty gets super inspirational.

1:23:54Yeah, and gives one of the greatest post -fights beaches of all time I think the greatest. I don't think there's ever been a better. Oh, maybe maybe rose nomenonus. That was right up there too That one made me cry. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, she's sick. She's a bad ass But yeah, that is he one man. That's I mean, he's the reason I never he got me into the idea of UFC I never before before he got into because he was under the nerd stuff Yeah, and I couldn't believe that there was a guy who was like damn like y 'all I'm a nerdy dude. I like nerd shit. Yeah, and I'm kicking the fuck out of people And that got me locked in and also like a sweetheart sweet heart of a guy so fun Just to hang out with and shoot the shed his silly.

1:24:31He's fun. Oh, dude playful. You know, it's just a real good guy real smart Oh, he took us to a club when we were in Brisbane with me and shows and we just danced till like three in the morning Fucked up He took us to like a some local spot that he likes, you know, but he's the man dude That's all he's just the fucking man, but yeah, the nerd should made me lock in of life It's really interesting how different those guys. I mean Like we're talking about like Dustin Poirier like having a regular life like the same thing with Izzy like how do you have a regular life after you did that You did that you did that from the whole world the whole world was watching It was there was so many consequences on that that fight because you were winning.

1:25:09He was winning that verse fight Yeah, he was winning, you know He was ahead on points and then the fourth round or the it was a fourth or the fifth we got put out You know it was um, you know, it was devastating like this motherfucker got him again. Yeah, because he got robbed in the first kickboxing fight Izzy got robbed in my opinion. I went and I watched that fight several times. I mean Rob just a tough Description, but I would say I do not agree with the decision I think Izzy won that kickboxing fight and then the second kickboxing fight Izzy had them on skates It he had Izzy had him heard at one point in time, but he recovered and then he caught Izzy with a left hook from hell Just a left hook from hell that motherfucker hits so hard.

1:25:49Yeah, it looks scary He hits so hard and he wasn't as big back then as he is now like he a lot of strength and conditioning works Since then like he didn't doesn't look the same like then as he does now now he looks way more strong And so he he knocks him out and then they fight the you see and he knocks him out again And then Izzy finally knocks him out It was off puts the arrows in his body for the three times he beat him. Yeah, I know He said that was like he didn't even think of that. He just did three He just felt like doing three, but it was really the three times he beat him and it just came out of his body came out of his body Tissama the fucker got me three times Oh, I don't know who was on stage that night, but we ruined their sake because they came on stage like oh yeah You just I'm in the middle of a joke and you just hear 30 people in the green room go And I'll wait me to all of us because it was just oh this is a moment dude Yeah, you can feel it when it just the way he did it and then when he's yelling But that's one of the most inspiring that speech and whenever I'm working out or doing anything that fortify your mind It plays in my head fortify your mind.

1:26:54Jamie play that for us one time It's like one of the greatest speeches of all time and you know, he asked me for the microphone too. He did I need to say something listen to me I hope every one of you behind the screens on this arena can feel this level of happiness just one time in your life I love all of you can feel how fucking happy I am just one time in your life But guess what? You never feel this level of happiness if you don't go for something in your own life when they knock you down Where they try and shit on you when they talk shit about you and they try to put their foot on your neck If you stay down you will never ever get that result Fortify your mind and feel this level of happiness at your right One time your life, but I'm blessed to be able to feel the shit again and again and again and again Woo I mean Fuck man damn Why you rise I mean it sounds like something from a movie like a speech before war it sounds like Like 15 writers sat in a room and came up with the perfect perfect lines.

1:28:07Yeah, and then If that was in the movie gladiator, I'd be like oh, yeah, that's what that's that's how good that is and I bet that just came out of the moment I didn't even ask him. I should ask him next time I talked to him. I bet that just came right out of the moment It was just right there. It was a perfect event for him. It was perfect the way it went down was perfect You couldn't you never script that better in a movie no to see him flattened out out cold Then put arrows in his unconscious body Knocked out a Easter egg island man Oh, it's on Easter egg island Well, Alex Burr is a scariest kickboxer's ever competed in the sport He's like the one guy above all that I would say if he hits you once you're dead He just has to hit you once and all the guys have ever seen fight I don't think anybody I could say that more than that guy Including in kickboxing in everything He has more power than anybody I've ever seen in fact even boxing even even I don't think I've seen anybody that hits harder than that guy anybody ever ever Ever except Francis and Gano but Francis and Gano's 265 You know what I'm saying?

1:29:21But in in weight class like weight class to weight class Francis could put anybody out too But he's not at the same skill level as Poeton so when Poeton does it Like when he switched kicked Yuri Prohoscow and KO him at the beginning of the second round. Yeah Jesus Christ like What the fuck man? Any KO him already at the end of the first round. Yeah, this terrifying that dude's terrifying just absolutely terrifying that power is just From this like from God. It's like he's got a gift. He's got a weird gift. This is different than ever You know, there's this machine where you punch it and it registers the amount of power with Francis It was like 130 something Something like that right Francis like 130 something Poeton got 191 191 With his with his right hand and I don't even think his right hand is power punch I think it's the left hook.

1:30:14That's the big one. I bet the big one the left hook is over 191 it's bananas his power, but it's not like anybody else. So when is he not that guy out That you gotta understand that's that's different That's different. He's like that's the top of the mountain That's the top of the mountain in the sport. It's like one of the greatest accomplishments in the sport. Yeah It really is would you say Poeton is the fastest rise you've ever seen in the US ever To two division world champions. Yeah, no one's even close because that guy never says no they call him up You want to fight next weekend? Yes Oh yes, yes wait It's just fights you fought with a broken toe you fought a broken hand the last time his hand was broken And he had a neurovirus and he still fought He's terrifying.

1:30:59He's crazy I remember when he came to the mothership and they were like the security like it was terrifying Because he was like I want to meet Joe now And security like I don't know what to do Yummy and DC were in the hallway upstairs in the mothership and he's teaching us how he checks the calf kick How he throws the calf kick different than everybody else and he's having polino his coach is translating So it was me and DC and we're both standing there and you know that little area where the elevator is where the VIP is So we're standing there in this little crowded area is like five of us and Poetons kicking my legs and he's kicking DC's legs and he's explaining How he lifts his leg up this way and this is how he checks it and you're like oh shit And both DC and I would we tell people about this like I don't even know I want to give this up Because this is like very good information Like he never gets hurt with calf kicks and it's he like the way he checks them He does like a hacky sack thing a lot of people are doing it now But he was like one of the first guys to figure that out That he does like this hacky sack move So when you go to kick his legs instead of just checking it yeah where he turns it into the kick He lifts his leg up and his leg just kind of goes like this and the the kick just goes we Just kind of raises it so it never pounds on his calf the way he pounds on theirs when it's just straight and boom You're getting that force where you're playing it But he also has a different style like he's not heavy on the front leg because he like some guys are heavy on the front leg Because they want to take him down quick So they want to be able to like move and take him down and those are the guys are gonna have a harder time getting away from that kick Because you got so much weight on that leg so we just thud Thud Thud and then now your calf is numb And your foot is limp your foot's just dangling around your ankle.

1:32:40Oh, that guy's terrifying dude And again like how does a guy like that go and Become a regular person. How do you how do you integrate and just be a regular guy after that? Yeah, it's got to be very weird Like Shobbs figured it out. Yeah, Shobb but Shobb got lucky that he found podcasting You know and you know found his car show all gas no brakes So like he he found a way to transition still have a good time. Yeah Very few guys because you see I remember just the era of watching Tyson go from fighting to Finding a rhythm. Yeah, you know and being in movies like find there's like fighters like Shobb elite fighter You know top 10 heavyweight UFC, but then there's champions world champions guys who sell out arenas pay per views cars Like Connor how's that guy go and be a regular person?

1:33:26How do you do that? You can't yeah, it's like I mean they there's no coaches for that where they teach you how to reintegrate and become normal. Yeah RIP George for me man. He feels like the only one who was like he found the grill I'm fucking show a lot of money with that grill But he also came back when he was 36. Yeah, and won it again, didn't he? Yeah He went all the way through till he was 45 and he knocked out Michael Moore Which is crazy like nobody did that back then when he came back at 36 I remember news articles about it and I remember feeling sad Because I knew George Foreman when I was a child like George Foreman on TV when he knocked out Joe Frazier When Ali beat him in Africa That was a famous story because Hunter S Thompson went there and he was supposed to Watch it and write a story for Rolling Stone about it But he was so sad that Ali was gonna get fucked up that he decided not to go to the fight So he stated his hotel and just floated around the pool and he fucked up the whole assignment And it was kind of in the documentary they say it was kind of like a pivotal moment in the downturn of his life Where he kind of like fucked his life up really yeah because he failed it as a assignment He didn't in back then you couldn't watch the tape You know this we're talking about the 1970s.

1:34:43Yeah, so after the fights over the fights over you did you miss the fight You don't have a story And so he didn't have a story and he went all the way to Africa and just fucked off because he was just being silly And you know like oh my god, I'm a failure. I failed in my story And it was like a downturn in his life kind of takes a dark turn after that God, it's crazy how much because you hear that and it's that speech that Ali gave Which is also one of the most inspiring is everyone he's like I know you got him picked I know y 'all got him picked that you know he gets that one. I'll show you how great I am And it's like wow to hear that even Hunter S Thompson was like oh wow the every casual must have been like Allie's about to get fucking.

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1:37:53Oh god former hitting the heavy bag is One of the more prodigious sites. I've had in my life It seems to me that if all the people I've seen hitting heavy bags including sunny listen No one ever hit it the way foreman did So all he's practicing is hitting hard he's not trying to be slick you notice the difference yeah He's been the way like canelo hits the heavy bag or Floyd hits the heavy bag their work and skills We want to see Tyson do it in that head is going crazy Tyson hit the heavy bag better than anybody in the history of the world Better than anybody because he hit the heavy bag with all these crazy angles and speed speed like a lightweight It's bouncing 14 pounds moving like a lightweight Nobody was like that dude.

1:38:45I still maintain. He's the greatest I think for you know a lot of people shit on me. They said no where you don't know shit about boxing I just think that run when custom motto was training him to the title Cuss was already dead when he won the title to like a few fights afterwards losing cussed he lost his way a little bit but but That run when he was the man when he knocked out marvelous phrasier I think that's the greatest heavyweight of all time. I don't think anybody's even close I think he fucks them all up. Yeah, I think he fucks them all but they fight him during that time People like to discredit things because of the whole career But they don't want to give credit to a run when you see somebody have a run that's truly.

1:39:22It's all about the run It's all about the run. That's why I always put BJ pen in the list of all time grades Because during that run when BJ pen beat up Diego Sanchez and when BJ pen fucked up Sean Shirk and Joe daddy Stevenson when he did that I'm like that BJ pen might be the baddest motherfucker alive Like he might be the baddest motherfucker alive like he I would have put that BJ pen I would have loved to see that BJ pen versus could be that thing have been fucking crazy And a lot of people think that's a ridiculous thing to say because could be was so dominant and BJ lost a bunch of times like you're right Argument except I mean, I'm not stick Kabeebe might have beat him.

1:39:59He might have taken him down and mauled him the same way George St. Pierre did He might have yeah, Kabeebe is a big guy Especially for a lightweight and his grappling skills are unparalleled Kabeebe grapples and does fantastic with elite world championship caliber amateur wrestlers I've heard stories of Kabeebe Dominating guys in the gym at a K .A. That are elite wrestlers. That's how good Kabeebe is So he might have been able to do that to BJ pen but BJ pen might have got him too BJ pen might have got him BJ pen especially when he's training with the merinoviches and he had an unstoppable gas tank Because he went and trained with marv merinovich was like this Psychopath football trainer But these like radical plyometric training methods and you just all you did was strengthen conditioning It was like you know how to fight stop all this fight training.

1:40:46We're just gonna get you in the most insane state possible And when they did that BJ pen was unstoppable that BJ pen I think he think if somebody could have corralled him and got him to stay with that guy and then train all the skills Outside of camp and then only train that way when he had a world title fight to never fuck off who knows man Who knows he could have been the goat He was so talented man So talented that motherfucker BJ pen won the moon dals. Okay. He was the first American to win the moon dals Ever the moon dals the world championships in Brazilian jiu jitsu as a black belt three years in a training Three years in a training First of all it's insane to get a black belt three years But to get a black belt in three years and then win the world championships is insane Insane and that's without even hearing the context that's crazy because I know three years isn't long enough to do any Most things I was a brown belt for eight years I was you were dedicated you weren't like you weren't blessed your ass I just it was like you know you don't they don't give those out man you have to earn it It has to be real unless you're in a terrible gym.

1:41:55You're at a legit gym. Yeah, you know if I'm training with John junk my channel doesn't give out black belts So you gotta be real to get that you gotta choke a lot of people to get that and BJ pen got in three years Three years. Yeah, that's just natural gift god given its ability He's an addict. He to set it to me like we had a conversation on a follow -up. It was really funny It goes I was talking to this guy and he was really young and he was like, you know like he goes BJ I admire you, you know, I copy your style and this and that and he goes man He got so good so quick he goes man. I'm like you.

1:42:30I'm an addict He goes I'm just addicted to jiu jitsu and he's like fuck man And then I realized that that's it. I'm addicted to jiu jitsu. I got addicted to something really good I'm addicted and I was like that's exactly what it is right. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing to turn you into a junkie Unfortunately Just put that dial spin that needle some towards something else. Uh -huh. And it's over. I knew a dude who was a world championship caliber pool player and um he was squeaky clean. He ate well. He drank water. He never drank alcohol. He didn't smoke cigarettes He didn't do drugs Straight as an arrow super focused World championship caliber player then he hurts his back in the car accident And they get him on those pills And um falls apart man It gets addicted to those pills the same way he was addicted to being a pool player jeez the same thing that made him just obsess on pool where he's thinking about pool so much it becomes like the scariest guy to play the same thing Got him with the pills and then he just overdosed him died young And but he was like one time um My buddies were hanging out with them and he fell asleep in his mashed potatoes.

1:43:46Just fell asleep in his food They were eating and he just Just grayed out on pills right into his food and then I pick him up out of the food like oh no This is a guy that was like straight as an arrow clean as whistle Super focused always dressed nice always look good, you know, yeah thin in shape Just one just focused click to the left and go to the left one accident and then pills and then no one understanding How addictive those fucking pills were the doctors never told you yeah, nobody told anybody You know now and you see like those documentaries of like how people who just like broke a leg or something And then they get them addicted to pills and next thing you know they lost their family their job everything I have many people that I know that that happened to many people that I know that got injured Got on pills and just lost their lives.

1:44:32Do you get to guys? Friends a lot of people especially again Back before the information was available now everybody knows pain pills are super super addictive Everybody knows someone in their family. Yeah, everybody knows someone that it just can't get off him Everybody knows somebody that died. I know multiple people that have died from pain pills Yeah, and so that's what got him But it's the same thing man, but that addiction is what makes you great. Yeah, it's that thing in your head that makes you obsess on something That's what it is It's like this thing where you're trying to figure this thing out and you just want to get better at it But that could be Hijacked by gambling that could be hijacked by video games that could be hijacked by anything I've seen guys.

1:45:16Yeah, same guys Yeah That's that seems normal to me that like makes sense like biologically But the gambling one is the craziest one to me. Yeah, that's the weirdest one because that might as well be heroin to those people That the whatever they're getting out of like risking a hundred thousand dollars on a football game Watching people do that. Oh, yeah, it doesn't mean so much anxiety We're in Vegas and you're walking through casino you just see people at that slot machine and they're just glazed It's like the dumbest version of it though, but the big the We're skiing everything on a game or risking everything on like a roll the dice Rulaps yeah, yeah, Rulette like that kind of thing is so nuts.

1:45:59It's so nuts to watch. It gives me so much anxiety Like you ever see uncut gems that Alan Taylor movie one of the best movies. I've seen it a hundred times dude so good It's on rean it just shows Adam Taylor in a way of like oh it is muffled Can act act act he can for real act for real act, but yeah that movie I remember being in the theater and I'm with my wife and she's squarming and I was like what's wrong? You're right? And she's like this is making me uncomfortable Derek Yeah, yeah, I'm making me fucking uncomfortable Super uncomfortable and I was again this movie it was because it's the dribbling rush you're on you feel like you're gambling Well, the movie so good it bring it locks you in like we're talking about like comedies like hypnosis that movie was like hypnosis I get locked you into this character and his decision making and this addiction to gamble that he has and all the shady characters around Everybody's pulling scams and everybody's doing this and that and there's always something happening and There's two movies that can lock you into a character like that where you're like I don't even agree with this person and I'm and I'm so invested and at the end of the movie you're like what the fuck Incrash spoiler alert It's one of those what the fuck moments we like what the fuck yeah that movie I I shot it off and I was just breathing heavy for five minutes Fuck oh, it's and it's it's I like a movie like that too where you're like this feels real this feels Yeah, this feels like you can heck like said happen to my neighbor happen to my best friend like this could happen to anyone Yeah, you just get lost in this yeah, your mind is weird man people's minds are strange like you know Minds can go down these weird pathways and it's like and most people don't have a good management system for it either So it's like you're driving this car with no traction control and too much horsepower and flying all over the road and You know And you freaked out you're always on 10 The goo yeah, dude fuck another movie that makes you feel the way is there'll be blood when you're watching Yeah, where you're watching a guy.

1:47:50Yeah, just go through this life and you're like I'm getting uncomfortable He's killing his fake brother and he's fucking you know, and by the end like you said the ending of that one as well where you're like The fuck is this I showed it to my wife and she was she literally goes Derek why the fuck did you show me that and I was like you have to see it You needed to experience this yeah, it's how good this movie is this an experience. I love a movie like that Get me an experience. That's one of the greatest movies ever ever for experience just like for sheer like Just becoming that guy. Yes, he was that guy You believed every single second of it.

1:48:26There was no soap opera acting going on at all This is my son HW the way talks the way he is. Yeah Oh my guy then you see like him devolve into this crazy billion because you when we see crazy billionaires We don't really and it's like to see how a person becomes a crazy billion Because he's not a regular guy in the beginning movie falls breaks his leg and that whole you know what I mean? He's a regular dude. There's a little element of that guy and everybody that's a crazy billionaire Dressed you have you how do you get there? You have to manage that the same way everybody manages everything else like imagine Like trying to manage being Elon Musk.

1:49:01Imagine trying to manage that Imagine just trying to manage that. I don't know he finds the time Doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense Like it doesn't even seem real like it could possibly be real It cuz now he works for the government along with still trying to get us to Mars and all these other cool things He's doing you know what I mean and people are scrutinizing him at a level like they want him to be perfect in every way And it's like you don't get that out of these wacky geniuses. You don't get perfect You get unbelievable capabilities mixed in with all kinds of flaws that even he makes fun of Like you know he's even talked openly about like self -inflicted wounds that he gives himself on Twitter He's posted about it with like laughter emojis like but he's having a good time He is that would be like watching the there will be blood guy also tweeting his thoughts right Yeah, it would you would see some shit.

1:49:58We were like yeah, what the fuck yeah, well, he's not that way He's not that great. It's like He's people's oil. I drink your milkshake He's not he's not that No, but I just the idea like he said it's a little bit in him. It has to be well to conquer like that Well, I think his drive is different than most of them and his his drive is accomplishments and innovation Like he's obsessed with getting people to Mars He's obsessed with the engineering involved in what they've accomplished already with space X The ability to take a booster Shoot it off into space and the booster comes down in lands and gets caught with robot arms is so Off the charts beyond anything anyone else has accomplished in the world of Rocketry and space science and all all the engineering involved it's off the charts like what space X has done is It's not appreciated enough because he's so polarizing politically because of his affiliation with Trump and because of all the propaganda That has been spun his way.

1:51:00There's some definite natural reactions that people have to him That are organic and real and they don't they get upset at some of the things he does that's real But also there's a gigantic propaganda machine. Let's try to paint him as a literal Nazi And they're they're doing it because they have a vested interest in keeping All these NGOs and all their funding in place exactly the same way it's always been and having a genius Go into all of your fucking booking bookkeeping and accounting is not good if you've been unchecked for decades and you have a fucking Just an unstoppable budget and a lot of waste and a lot of incompetence and probably a bunch of fraud and theft too of course Yeah, I mean they've acknowledged that you know one of the things they said the Wiltrow Solaris I said he found I think it was was it so secure to your Medicaid a bunch of fraud and then they were saying well actually the government Had already identified there's two years ago.

1:51:57Okay, but why didn't what didn't you have this press conference and say Did you just cover it up? Did you make a big deal? Did you stop it in its tracks? Did you reverse it? Did you prosecute people? Did you get the money back? Why why are you saying yeah? We already knew about that like that's not good enough like what did what did you do? How come you didn't find out about that $250 million that went to transgender animal studies You didn't notice that one 21 million dollars through Iraq and Sesame Street you didn't know You didn't notice like fucking And like just so much of it is kooky. It's so much money and these the way NGO's and non -profits work I didn't understand it.

1:52:39I didn't know that it's all like sickle coal money. That's like flowing around There's billions of dollars. It's just flowing around. It's got a lot of it's unchecked and they've been doing it forever And that's why we're 36 trillion dollars in debt You know not good How how how how to get that bad? I don't know But then there's also legitimate Arguments on the other side like the other side is making a very legitimate argument about the right to do process if you get Processed and shipped out of the country and put an imprisoned in El Salvador You know What what is the quote? Was it Benjamin Franklin's quote about innocent and that it is better to allow 10 guilty people To go free than one innocent person arrested You know, I'm on that side of things.

1:53:25Yeah That's my I mean, I think due process exists for a reason and the reason is It is horrific for someone to be accused of something they didn't do be imprisoned for crimes They didn't commit and then live in a cell live in a cage with a bunch of people who did commit shit here It's been from the fact that it's better 100 guilty person should escape than one innocent person should suffer that That is wisdom. Yeah, that has survived hundreds of years It's incredibly accurate and it is the foundation of freedom Like we have to make sure that these people are actually guilty otherwise we become monsters You can't like what is that even your fight monsters be careful that you don't become one.

1:54:07Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very important It's very important key. No, you can't do that But also you can't You have also the deal with the fact that the current administration is dealing with the past administration allowing Known gang members and terrorists to go right through the border unchecked That a lot of them they know got through They don't know the exact numbers, but they know there's millions and millions of people illegally just walked through unchecked And a bunch of them have to have criminal records a bunch of them have to be dangerous and we've seen crimes That have been committed.

1:54:45It doesn't help anybody on the progressive side to deny the fact that that's a real problem And if it happens to your family and cough a bit. I don't want it to happen to anybody's But if it does you will feel a sting of regret if you supported that not like anything you've ever experienced in your life you'll be like I mean It's You know, it's one of those things where To support one side of this you have to deny some like basic human values either way like to support just rounding people up And just assuming they're all gang members. I don't not saying they're doing that But this is the worst case scenario right yeah, they get a bunch of people in a room They rope them all in and one guy's just someone's cousin picking someone up to give him a ride home That's possible and now you're back on the one person with now you're right back and what if that dude is not doing anything wrong And he's got some stupid tattoos and they decide that this guy's a gang member And now now you're in a prison in El Salvador and he's not even from El Salvador And now you know, you were just a hairdresser or you're a tattoo artist Family man.

1:55:47Yeah, you came over here and maybe you got a green card and maybe you don't maybe you were just given a Asylum because a lot of people from Venezuela were given asylum in America. Yeah And then you get shipped to El Salvador where you're not even from El Salvador so That the fact that that exists scares the shit out of me But also the fact that they were just letting terrorists and gang members flow freely into the country is fucking horrible And when you talk about innocent people what about the innocent people they got murdered by terrorists and and well not terrorists That really hasn't happened But gang members and this trend or wagua that were taken over those apartment buildings in Aurora, Colorado And like that's scary shit man armed with machine guns taken over apartment buildings like what are we talking about here?

1:56:34Like what are we talking about you you're letting that happen? You're not sending in the troops to stop this. Yeah, and you think that wouldn't in your head You're like that can't happen in America and Colorado bro. They got a guy That it done that in California and they refuse to deport them because they said the California is a sanctuary state Like fighting to keep a known gang member free in America The whole thing is bananas. It's like almost like you don't want to go full tinfoil hat Sam tripply style and just Decide that they're trying to destroy America, but if I was gonna try to destroy America.

1:57:08That's how I would do it Yeah, now take over the political process in in part censorship on all the social media like Gaslight people to no end consistently do it Astro turf stadiums filled with people pretending they support something pay them to be there manufacture a movement and Slowly but surely bring chaos to all the cities allow DAs to get elected that are the worst when it comes to protecting people and the best when it comes to freeing violent criminals And that that's the really their gold and they can do it on they could just use words like racial justice So like just send out yeah send murderers back out into the streets You just create chaos defund the police defund now now you have no police like if I wanted to destroy America I would do it this way.

1:57:54I mean that sounded what you just described sounds like a China like a plan from another place That's like oh if you wanted to destroy a man if we really wanted to do not with war But let's just slowly let them kill themselves And then have them at each other's back at each other's throats rather You know constantly have them fighting over political issues. Let's get rid of rovy weight They're a little too too happy right now Get rid of rovy weighed and then the liberals are up in arms. How do you want the fucker? Which was getting rid of rovy weighed was actually a good move If you are a Democrat because then people get upset and then they really want to vote like you could probably ignite a lot of people And that was like There was some famous videos.

1:58:31There's one famous video of this lady celebrating that Kamala Harris is gonna win And she was like reproductive freedom women came out to vote and unprecedented numbers It was it i'm sure you've seen it. It's a video of this lady mocking this guy working at a liquor store never see it It's so good. It's so good because it's like this This lady in the way she's talking like you can't be a good person and talk to someone this way Or even about someone this way and be happy in the way you're happy yeah like it's like People like to be shitty To people and think that it's justifiable to be shitty if that person disagree with you So you could be shitty where the guy in this story is not being shitty to her at all but she's being super shitty to this guy and But she's talking about reproductive rights because like that was like one of the big things that got people to come out and vote for the Democrats Yeah, if I was playing for D.

1:59:24Chaz and I was a Democrat. I was like this will be do Get rid of ourselves get rid of ourselves get a row set and then campaign on that Okay, now we got all the women This don't because women don't want men telling them what to do bitch you can't get pregnant shut the fuck up Shut the fuck up just shut the fuck shut up until you can get pregnant shut the fuck up, you know It's like This so this lady you got it Jamie you can find this video. It's so funny It's poor lady, but it's about reproductive rights like she's she's saying that and it was in a lot for a lot of people That was a big one. So like you would do that you would do that you would get rid of that you would try to get rid of the second amendment Fuck just talking about we're gonna get real log guns I'm gonna fucking gun guy get up for the Republicans, you know, and then you know, you would say We need open borders because we need the our society is population collapse and they're starting to say things like that and we need you know, who's gonna pick cotton?

2:00:15There essentially Marketing it because they're saying Americans don't want these jobs So we have to bring people in to pick our crops. Who's gonna clean your your toilets people are openly saying that Like not realizing how racist oh If they give it up all the Mexicans it's like what the fuck who said that Who said one of those crazy you bitch? She's one of them. They'll release the show like that, you know, yeah hilarious So there was that going on if you wanted to like destroy society and make it worse What would you do you bring people in from a third world country? Don't have them change anything financially incentive us them to be there give them free money while you're not helping the poor people in America They're giving them debit cards free housing free food.

2:00:58Yeah putting them up in the Roosevelt hotel in New York City Why old shit if you wanted to destroy society that's how you would do it. That's how you would do it I mean that sounds you would just keep it working like it's going in that direction So the problem with things that are going in a radical direction and then there's an over correction So the over correction is lack of due process the over correction is like round them all up Ship them to jail like that's like some things that you say when you're not thinking things through like what do you do about all the criminals take them all Fucking sent them to El Salvador.

2:01:31Yeah, what about due process no fuck that. Well, here's the problem with fuck that What if you are an enemy of let's not say any current president? What's pretend we got a new president totally new guy in 2028 And there's this is a common practice now of just rounding up gang members with no due process and ship them to El Salvador You're a gang member. No, I'm not prove it. What I want to go to court. No no due process That's dangerous. That's dangerous. That's dangerous That's we got to be careful that we don't become monsters While we're fighting monsters But then again, you got to find these motherfuckers that are here that have terrorist cells And that are ready to fucking blow up malls and Dallas and do crazy shit which Definitely they've thwarted before yeah, so like this is the best argument for Intelligence agencies is that there's real threats, you know like for someone to say fuck all the see I fucked the FBI.

2:02:32What are you crazy? Who's gonna investigate real threats? Like the real world exists as much as you want to pretend that the you know that we can all go kumbai Yeah tomorrow if we all just lay down our arms. No, there's people that are 48 years old and dedicated to crime They dedicated to crime in Guatemala and now they're here, you know And now they're selling fentanyl and they're not gonna stop okay? They don't give a fuck yeah, and they're on ebt cards where you're getting money from the government for free Every month because you're in a sanctuary city And you get free food and you're a criminal and then one of them like two of them assaulted cops in New York City And then got out got free no cash bail no cash bail you just get out The assaulted cops and then they're on the street given the two -pock to the camera Have you ever seen that?

2:03:20No, it's crazy First of all we got to show you the camel Harris lady. You got the camel Harris lady? You can't find it they probably scrub it from the internet. I mean I mean, she's being chained and I'm not really you're what to look for Yeah, you're putting the table head on the head right now. That's not feeling it. We don't have to show it Um, it's because we already showed it a bunch times. It's How you would do it if you wanted to destroy America? I'm not saying so the question becomes like how much of it is Our own folly how much of it is just natural human behavior How much of it is like the right wants law in order so we don't want law in order the right wants to punish prisoners We want to know that's it's racist racism.

2:04:00You know, it's like What is it? What's just teens fighting that so yeah, but also I feel like it's manipulated as well And maybe more so than anything else. I feel like it's manipulated and again if you wanted to turn us into China And what I mean by that is a country that's Facial recognition everywhere social credit score system that's attached to all of your banking your ability to travel Everything you do if you make anything online that's against the government you could be disappeared you could be locked up You could be made a political prisoner You know, this is fun. It felt like we were heading that way.

2:04:39Yeah, I think this is something that I think it was Matt's got it said this No, it was Duncan that said this about Ukraine and Russia He's like do you realize like the Ukrainians that we're killing or that rather the Russians that we're killing By sending over arms and money to fund the Ukrainians not saying that we shouldn't do this But he's saying that a lot of those guys are being forced to go to the front line And a lot of those guys are prisoners who get released in order to fight So what if you're a prisoner because you wrote a bad tweet against Putin And they lock you up and then all of a sudden Ukrainians are killing you with American weapons Because you tweeted bad against Putin.

2:05:24So it's Putin's way of like eliminating yeah any any dissent From like and they don't even arrest that many people online in comparison to or for doing things online in comparison to the UK The UK is getting in on a full steam ahead The UK is arresting people for anything that makes people uncomfortable online They show up at your house and just fucking arrest you they've arrested like how many people have been arrested in the UK for social media posts In the last year you you're gonna you're gonna blow your mind It's gonna blow your mind. This is just post on social media like get you know We need to send these illegal immigrants back saying shit like that.

2:06:03Yeah, you get arrested Arrested hate crime even if I'm joking even if I'm maybe I'm just fucking having them. There's no jokes What jokes online anymore not in the UK Not only that but the guys ahead of the UK They're saying now that they could potentially arrest Americans who have posted things online when they visit the UK Yeah, it's what reading a post about this like this could this law could potentially be used in this way That if you are a person in America and you're posting horrible shit about the UK government or the immigrant problem or whatever they have Um context find available information exact figures 2025 not fully confident 2020 through 2020 in 2023 12 ,000 183 arrests were made across 37 police forces in the UK under section 127 of the Communications Act 2003 in section one of the malicious communications act in 1988 equating to about 33 arrests per day laws cover sending grossly offensive In decent obscene or menacing messages via electronic communication networks which includes social media posts and also DMs DMs so people that are arrested for horrible DMs that nobody gets to see other than the friend that you're sending it to supposedly You have no idea what the context is that's crazy into this one time Recently it said that a lot of people may have been arrested, but many of them were not prosecuted and were released But it's still right.

2:07:30Okay, that's cute. It's still horrifying because what you're doing is scaring people into compliance They don't want to be arrested again And they certainly don't want a risk being prosecuted But they're forcing people to censor themselves The judge said that they're breaking the law. I don't know which law I break No, they do have a law that they're they're they don't have freedom of speech the way we have in America So they do have these hate speech laws So they are breaking a law But the question is should that law exist and I say no No, the law should not exist You shouldn't be able to put someone in a cage for saying in some of them are not that offensive some of them are pretty fucking calm Only a 1 ,119 sentence occurred for these offenses Okay, but the problem is now now go look at how many people were arrested in Russia For social media posts.

2:08:23It's drastically less But we think of Russia as being the the country that censors people and China and Russia that they think Which they do you can't criticize Putin you can't go balls out you're risking your life you're in real trouble Not not excuseing that but what they're doing in the UK is At a higher level of magnitude. I mean, maybe they're not Torturing people and sending them to the front line of Ukraine But they are putting the fear of being arrested in people Yes, say something that they don't want you to say on social media The jump from 2016 to 2023 is crazy look at Russia 2023 54 people So in the time where 12 ,000 people were arrested in the UK 54 people were imprisoned for online hate speech Also in Russia information isn't very Russia is 100 % accurate with their Shut up Jamie 2010 to 2024 Novaya Gazeta Europe reported over 30 ,000 criminal and administration of cases related to social media posts With about 1200 being criminal cases so they had 1200 criminal cases Comment charges include extremism inciting hatred or insulting state symbols That's that's where it gets get you I can't even make fun of the the flag or a monument.

2:09:43I can't make fun of it nope insulting Making fun is insulting There's no room for humor in a communist country UK sucks, dude I mean, but it's not you know, Russia's not communist really anymore It's really um It's a military dictatorship essentially. I mean Putin was the president and he can only do a certain amount of time And then he stopped being the president and I fucking up the president again And then no one's gonna win going against him. We have elections But what are you doing that guys wind up getting poisoned and shot and they're like it's old school Yeah, he's fucking told school.

2:10:19He's running that place. It's his that's his you're not taking over Man, I see that picture of him. You know shirtless on a horse. I'm like don't fuck with this dude. Yeah, he's a killer He's a former KGB killer like he's like the real. He's a judo black bell. He's a fucking he's a bad man Yeah, you know like you don't and he runs that country and They arrest less people Yeah, what the fuck is going on in the UK? They're they're leaning into the same direction that I was talking about it was scaring me about America I feel like there's a plot there's a plot to diminish the fabric of society like if you want Okay, let's Let's just look at the whole overall world and is it fair?

2:11:01It's definitely not fair There's clearly there's a reason why these people in these third world countries want to come to Europe and while they want to come to America Because it's better here and it's better there and they want a better life. I get it But why are they fleeing where they came from all huh run as we bomb the shit out of those places We bomb this shit out of those places. We drone bomb dumb. We over through democratically elected governments with coups There's a lot of instability that's caused by us and like what's our fault? We're gonna think he's being bullied I think instead of Fucking up this one country by letting everybody come in and drag it down to a third world country I think a better solution is figure out a way to prop up these other countries the same way I mean in a simplistic version of it like if you want everything for yourself yourself But you want everything for all your boys to and everybody everybody gets better.

2:11:53Yeah, the whole world gets better So instead of like shipping off jobs to Mexico where they get a dollar a day Um, maybe pay them real money pay them what you're supposed to be paying them maybe give them health care Maybe give them maybe if you are an American citizen And you want to hire someone to do something you have to hire someone under the same structure of ethics that we agree to in the United States Period. Yes period for all humans all over the world And if they're the money translates lower because the American dollar is worth more okay But balance it out make it that you know they can afford food they can afford housing they can afford Health care Make laws agree where we're and then you all of a sudden you prop up the whole world And the whole world stops these stop having third world countries Including in the United States like why do we still have ghettos?

2:12:46What why have we put all this money into funding all these different things with like us aid all over the world and The South side of Chicago is the same amount of murders every year if not more more every year every year Baltimore same place We had a cop in Once way back in the day That um he Was a cop in Baltimore and while they were working one day He found a rap sheet like a rest sheet of all these different crimes They were committed in all these different areas from like the 1970s And it was all the same shit that's happening today and he realized like oh my god It's never gonna end like you're never gonna fix this It's all the same problems in the same areas and nothing's being done the same Drug arrests the same violence the same this the same that All in the same places and all in these areas mysteriously all in these same areas that have been redlined during the Jim Crow era Where black people couldn't buy houses where the white neighborhoods are they had to buy houses is one air and those areas are fucked and no one's corrected it No one's now doesn't make sense But I you think that's just that that hard to let go that feeling of I have to be better than something like Yeah, it's nice to know you're doing better than somebody else It's just something about human beings that they like that it's convenient to ignore people that you're not gonna profit from You know if you are investing a bunch of money in green energy or you're investing a bunch of money and whatever stupid shit You're doing with windmills like someone's making money.

2:14:17There's a lot of people making money Money being exchanged if you're fixing South side Chicago if you're like creating community centers and you're like Robust education and counseling and providing mentorship and Paths to jobs and giving people like an opportunity to make real money that's enticing so they don't want to sell drugs or kill people Like how you making money doing that you're not and so people don't do it. It's that simple But it's like what you just said everyone would naturally if exactly was doing it The world wouldn't naturally ride exactly. It would take time. I guess you're right.

2:14:49It's not a direct Generations it would take generations. Yeah, but it's there's no effort being done to it So this guy that's seeing these crimes are committed in the same area in Baltimore in the 1970s You know, and this is in the 2000s. You see the same shit. It's like this is crazy Like this is just this is this is a this is the real systemic racism. This is the real like problem in this it's not It's not like black people can't make it in America. No, no, no, no, no It's like there's an echo of past atrocities that exist in these pockets that's not being addressed. It's never been healed. Yeah, it's never been healed and There's a convenience in allowing it to stay that way like you can count and then devote a certain way If you keep giving them welfare if you keep giving them food stamps The people that want that are always the Democrats.

2:15:34So those people are always gonna vote Democrat for you So you like you're it's within your best interest to not make them like conservative Republicans or like very disciplined Yeah, it's hard to get to the jambit 4 30 before they show up at work at seven and we're gonna kick some ass and make some fucking money Wilson, you know It's convenient because then they'll vote for you every time soon as they start making money and realize like what does the government spending my fucking taxes? That's what changes you immediately changes the moment you make some money. Oh, you become a Republican We get peace that I know became Republicans after they started making money Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:16:10Cause 50 % of your money and you're living in a shitty, you're like, wait, I don't, hold on. What are you letting criminals out? You're like, what is happening? Why is my car keep getting broken into? Like, why are there people camped in front of my fucking house? I gave you 50 % of my money. Yeah, this is crazy. Dylan has a great bit about it, about the California offering tax breaks for people that take a homeless person into their house. He's the man, dude. It's one of the clips that he put up because he's got a new special that's out now. Yeah. That he filmed at the mothership. But it's so funny and so true.

2:16:41It's like they're just trying to destroy society. What better way to destroy your house? You have a wife and child. What better way to destroy your house than to bring some fentanyl addict in? This is how you're gonna create more cast. And then California's trying to pass a new law this is being proposed, where if someone breaks into your house and threatens your life, you're not allowed to shoot them. In your house. Imagine someone breaks into your house and is trying to get you. Has a knife coming towards you, you're not allowed to kill them. What am I allowed to do? You're supposed to run away.

2:17:13That hasn't passed yet, but they... There's no way it can't. That doesn't even. It's so crazy to it. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's almost like they're trying to destroy people's confidence and law enforcement, confidence and community, feeling of being safe, ramp up everybody's level of anxiety, and then offer a solution. And the solution is to disarm everybody. The solution is to clamp down further and further on gun laws, make it very difficult to have a gun. You can't have magazines more than 10 rounds. You can't conceal carry. You can't do this. You can't do that. If you have it in your car, you have to have the bullets in the trunk.

2:17:54And the... Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pistols must be locked up. Yeah, there's always crazy laws. They're just slowly but surely trying to take away your... And you can say, no, those laws to keep people from road rage and shootings and criminals commit crime. Laws don't stop criminals from breaking laws. Laws keep law abiding people from protecting themselves. That's damn. That's the fact. That's the fact. Criminal is gonna do it anyway. They, the guns illegal, the fucking... The identification number I've been saught off. Did he talk to you about it? They're also like you said, they've been driven at that point.

2:18:32If I'm at that point, yeah, there is no rule that's gonna stop me. There's no rule. Have you ever seen that show Traffect? This is an amazing show called Traffect. And they went down to LA and they followed these rogue cops who are bringing guns into Mexico and selling them. Whoa. Yeah, that's one of the episodes. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. Yeah, Mariana Benzellers. She's amazing. She's been in the podcast a few times. She's brilliant. It's fearless. This lady, she went to Columbia into the jungle where they were making Coke and then went with the mules hiked it out with backpacks full of Coke.

2:19:20They had backpacks and she followed them and hiked it out. They showed her how they make the Coke. Where they make the Coke? Yeah. They changed the wording on this bill. Oh, interesting. The bill was, this is where it scratched out. Scratched out parts is the bill would eliminate certain circumstances under which homicides is justifiable, including amongst others in defense of a habitation or property. The bill would additionally clarify circumstances in which homicide is not justifiable, including among others, when a person uses more force than necessary to defend against a danger. What does that mean?

2:19:54That means you shoot a guy more than once. I got to know he's down. You're right, but you killed him instead of just shooting him. That's what they're saying. But you don't under what this bill, this bill is like not understanding fight or flight and violence and the chaos of you realizing your life or your family life danger. We just want to shoot that person. This is what it says about that part. Okay, the bill would eliminate that provision. The bill would also specify certain circumstances in which homicide is not justifiable, including when a person was outside their habitation or property and did not retreat when they could have safely done so, when a person used more force than a reasonable person would do.

2:20:33So that right there, listen that, when a person was outside their habitation or property and did not retreat when they could have safely done so. Meaning if someone's breaking into your house, you don't, you're on the outside of the house, you don't go into the house to confront them. You retreat, you're supposed to retreat. What if I have family in the house? That's a good question. This rule already is like, well, this doesn't make sense. It says it's specify the circumstances, so that might be, you know, but no, but Jamie, you do in the context of the sentence, the bill would also specify certain circumstances in which homicide is not justifiable, including when a person was outside their habitation or property.

2:21:10But it's not like it's not. If you're outside, it's saying you have to try to retreat. Right, but what if someone's in your home that doesn't clarify the circumstances, it still could be, it's just that there's certain circumstances when it's not justifiable, it still could be. But the certain circumstances is listed, including when a person was outside. I'm just, he brought up a situation. Jamie, it's obvious. It's obvious. I know, but you read, I read it. It's not necessary. And did not retreat when they could have safely done so. When a person used more force than a reasonable person, that's so subjective.

2:21:42You don't know what that, I don't know what that's not a real thing without Tim Kennedy. Is he reasonable? That's not a reason. What about Jaco's reasonable? Yeah, but people have to keep their cool. Would you say, Jamie? That's when you win a good jury, too. Good luck. I'm just saying, good, why would you count on that? I'm not saying you're counting on it. I'll just say, that's why you want one. I didn't say that's why you need one. I said, that's why you want one. If I was a judge, I'd say you're argumentative. However, the bill would specify that homicide is justifiable if the initial aggressor, aggressor actually and in good faith tried to stop fighting and indicated they wanted to and tried to stop fighting as specified or in cases of mutual combat, the initial aggressor gave the opponent an opportunity to stop fighting.

2:22:28So if someone starts fucking you up and then gives you an opportunity rather to stop fighting and you don't, you keep fighting them and kill them. But they've already started fighting with you. They've already, like that's, you're in danger zone. Like to be reasonable while your life is in danger is to open yourself up to get and fucked up. Because he's like, no, come on man, I was like, bang motherfucker. And you're out cold. Like you're, you're already engaged in violence. It's so subjective whether or not you should stop or not stop. Like when you should stop, but when that person's 100 % incapacitated and that might mean kill them.

2:23:04If you don't know what's gonna stop them. If you have a gun and someone is charging at you with a fucking machete and you bang, bang, bang, while they're still alive and that winds up killing them. You could have just shot them once. You could be in front of a jewelry and they could say, you could have stopped with the first bullet. And then you have a coroner who says yes, the first bullet was fatal or yes, the first bullet would have stopped him. But he shot him two additional times. Like now you're in jail. Now you're in jail because you were in terrified of your life and you thought you were gonna die and you did something in a split moment where you're not even thinking straight.

2:23:39Like you're, you're, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, you're not dead. To ask an accountant to keep his shit together in a, like if you were asking a Navy seal to keep his shit together and they're, they're fucking, they're gonna be like, oh finally, someone broke into my house. Oh, this motherfucker's motherfucker. Yeah, but some guy actually did try to break into Tim Kennedy's house and he, you know, he didn't even hurt the guy. He just said, you made a giant mistake. He came up with a gun and got rid of the guy. It's like those guys who start bar fights with UFC dude. You see those kind of videos where you're like, oh brother.

2:24:12You see Joe Schilling one, right? Oh, he bumps it, he kinda like. Some like, dude's dancing and just being a dick and then he gets him at the bar and just, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So dude, you tried to get him to flinch, like, like, that, yeah, he jumped at him. Jumped at him and he just think they didn't, the wrong dude. You mean, that's karma. Yeah, that's almost like, those things, like, almost make me feel like we're in a simulation. Like that's supposed to happen in that order, you know, when someone just hits a level of douchiness and you're supposed to run into toe -shilling.

2:24:43That's the perfect karmic response to like negative and a positive and a thing, you know, like, going in and out. We just, I just feel like we have to be really careful in this country that we don't get more divided by all this fucking political chaos that we're experiencing. We gotta be real careful, like as human beings, that we don't fall prey to that. This is not, it's not smart for anybody. No, dude. It's not smart. And we're just, it's not so much unnecessary conflict, you know? Well, it's usually, and it's just people picking that one side. And like you said, like, you can't, of course, I don't think people should be coming to the country and all that stuff.

2:25:22But I also do think women should be able to do what they want with the fucking baby in their stomach, you know, to be like, it's a point, right? Up to a point, of course. But like you said, if some woman got raped and she's pregnant now, like, yeah, let her, what am I, what are we doing right now? What are we doing? What are we doing? Where's the human aspect of it? And then also, like, if you don't feel for people that walked here with their babies, because they just wanna get a job as a landscaper, I can't have it. I just, I just, but how do you know more? You know, like I think the process for getting people in should be better.

2:25:51But it's also, it's like, how many can we support? Like what, what, what kind of a strain is this on social security? What kind of a strain is this on Medicare? You know, have this been, and is there a way to like make where they're from better? And wouldn't that like increase revenues? Like if you, if you, on fall of the sudden, you had another country right next door that's buying and trading and making tons of money. Wouldn't that be better for everybody? Yeah. Like if they stopped being a third world country and became a first world country, wouldn't that like be like super beneficial? Has that never come up in any of these, you, and they're like, how, why don't we just try to make this place a better?

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2:27:05Most of them are already dead or on their way. Unless you're JD Vance, he's really young, Tulsi Gabbard's young. It's Tulsi's the shit. Most of these people, when you're in office, like Trump is almost 80, Biden, do you see what Biden said yesterday? What do you say? Oh, Jay, would you see it? Yeah. Yeah. They let him talk. He's like, what, 80 something maybe? I don't know where they let it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're letting him talk, and I'm like, who's letting him talk? This is crazy. Here, here, I'll tell you this, Jay. It's so silly. He's fucking gone, bro. He's gone. They let him talk. They just let him get out in the open and put a microphone in front of his face, his face.

2:27:46But I guess like as a former president, you can kind of request, I like to speak my mind. One day just had just enough mixture. They filled him up with enough peptides. Got a little pepidness. That's really good. Yeah, there's a former president. I think he's a very important and good old little guy. I forgot about things. Let me give you some volume. Go full screen because you got to see his face. The full point of the part. And I had never seen, I had never seen, you know, hardly any black people scrant at the time. And I was only going on fourth grade. And I remember seeing the kids gone by at the time called colored kids on a bus.

2:28:28They never turned right to go to claim on high school. I wondered why. Ask my mom. Why? So on Delaware, they're not allowed to go to school. The public school was white kids. That sparked my sense of outrage of the kid, just like it does. And these young kids right here can tell you things affect them when they learn about something that's real, that's done very much to us. You know, my dad, my dad was an honorable man. And my dad just had an expression. He said, Joey, your job's got a lot more in the paycheck. It's about your dignity. It's about respect. It's about being able to look at kids and say, honey, it's going to be OK and mean it.

2:29:13That's what you're all about. That's what the legislation's about. That's about dignity. Simple dignity. Everyone, everyone deserves to be treated with dignity. Regardless of the standard, regardless of the economics of the regardless of who they are, making sure that more than 60 million Americans were living with disabilities. Our treat with dignity is who we are as Americans. That's what it's about. I hope he does more. We should have met the mothership. Yeah, we got him. Let him go up. Give him a go. In their communities. Give him a drink. He might die. In order of American life, laws like the ADA, the advocates like you.

2:30:02You can tell he got something. He took something that morning. He was fired. He was fired. He was good. They got him on a good dose. He was a nice nap. Nice nap. But it's crazy to let him do that because now we know he wasn't really running the country. Yeah. We used to think he was actually running the country. Now they're like, no, he didn't even see those executive orders. Like that was all auto -pend. He didn't even sign those things. It is crazy how old the auto -pends weird thing. How lazy you bitch. How many things are you signing? You have to auto -pend things. That's crazy that you can auto -pend.

2:30:36The whole thing is supposed to be signature. That's your job. That's also the thing. That's your job. You read it. You go over it and you make sure it's right. And you sign it. What are we paying? I don't understand. What are we doing? What are we doing? How are you auto -pending shit? That's the crazy thing about all those pardons. Yeah, there's like, how many pardons do you have? I think you had 9 ,000 pardons. And it was all auto -pend. So it's like everybody's like this. If I had imagined like worst -case scenario, I'm not assuming or accusing anybody doing this. But I would imagine if you got a hold of that auto -pend, be like, yo, yo, yo, I got the auto -pend.

2:31:12Like, who needs auto -boises out? I need money. I'm trying to get rich. And you're trying to get free. And let's get something rolling. Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. I mean, how many times? First of all, if you can't be tried, because they decide that you're mentally incapable of standing trial, that's what they said about him. They were gonna try him on some classified documents case. They said the judge ruled that he was incapable of standing trial. While he was running for president for the second term, while he was running for president, they were saying he's incapable of standing trial.

2:31:48So if we're saying that there's something wrong with him cognitively, but we're still allowing him to give people pardons, like if he's not sane enough, if he's not there enough to stand trial, how could he be there enough to decide whether or not someone deserves a pardon? That seems insane. And then how could you use the auto -pend? He's like, what about that guy? Yes, pardon him. What about that guy? Let him off, right? You just were he deserved it. Like there's a point. Yes, 9 ,000. There's no way. If you have all the time in the world, how are you going over 9 ,000 cases? Most of those were the marijuana releases.

2:32:28Well, that's nice. Federal. How many of them? What can you see 500 or so? Oh, that's nice. But auto -pending it is, when you think about what that means, that it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. It's just, is that shit for sale?

2:32:45Pardon's a crazy anyway. You just let somebody out of jail because you're the king. I'm the king. Fucking fuck that trial. Yeah. Fuck that jury. I like your free, bro. I don't mind it. Yeah. That's crazy power. Let people out of jail. You know, in mass numbers. What was the total? You're trying to find the exact number. Okay. Yeah. Cause 9 ,000. I agree with all those marijuana ones. That's not a real thing. I feel bad. The craziest shit that there were people in Colorado that were in jail for selling marijuana, looking out the window of their prison to marijuana dealerships selling marijuana legally.

2:33:30And nice packaging. Nice. Nice. With barcoes on it. Cartoon carers. You're smiling. They're high on them. Snoop dog on the cover of a bag. Yeah. Oh, that's the good thing about progressive governments, right? Progressive governments like Colorado. They realize that people's right to experiment with all kinds of different things, including alcohol, but also like you should have the freedom to take things. You should have the freedom to explore your own consciousness. Colorado agreed with that real early. You know, that's the good thing about progressive governments. And that's the bad thing about a lot of conservative governments.

2:34:08They want to stop you from doing that. You know, they want to prosecute people for that fucking grass. That dirty dough, you wear your dope. You're fucking dope. Yeah, they don't like it when your mind opens up a little bit. But you said it earlier, oh man, if we could just get everybody on mushrooms, everybody might love each other and all these things. Yeah, I don't think they think that way though. 8 ,000. A record setting number includes a collective act of over 6 ,500 individuals for marijuana possession and convictions. So it's really not like he has more than anybody else. Yeah, it looks like, yeah, it looks like more than everybody else because it's just 6 ,500.

2:34:46He actually only released 1 ,500 then. Yeah, look at Andrew Johnson. That would be in close to 9 ,000 I think at the end of the day. Oh, the end of like 25. So even then, 25 ,000 is not pretty normal. Yeah, like how many did it? Obama did. Almost 2000. What about Trump? He did 1 ,500 on the first day because we're all the January 6th people. How come Trump didn't free Joe Exotic? Let him go. With the Tiger King out there. Tiger King 3. We need it. He only did 230 on the first term. Oh, only 237. That's not a lot. Oh, so the new one, when he came back, he pardoned 1 ,500 individuals connected to the general.

2:35:27They keep saying capital riots. Yeah. But why Andrew Johnson? 8 ,000. Parts? That's what I said. Andrew Johnson. 1900 sold those bitches. He did for silver coins. He's sitting in his brother's bathtub with all these silver coins.

2:35:51But that's crazy that Partins were going back all the way to George Washington. Yeah, how many to George Washington have? A lot, right? 1700s, that was a said.

2:36:02Good old George. Yeah, it's crazy. I just got into that stuff because I saw Hamilton like two weeks ago for the first time. Oh, yeah. You ever seen that? No. Is it good? Brother. You see Don Broadway? Brother. No, I saw it on the, they brought it to Texas, the basketballs and then in these last like three weeks, I have studied everything. I'm addicted to it, bro. Really? Joe? Derek? What's the second greatest piece of art to ever be art? What's number one? Harry Potter books. I'll be straight here for this argument. Harry Potter books is number one. Harry Potter books. When he was going off at Metz is about this.

2:36:37Well, these white bookers was trying to bring up the Bible. It's like, get the fuck out of here, dude. Harry Potter's better than the Bible? Not even close. Really? It was, Joe, it's already the second greatest selling book of all time and it's only been out since 1997. Think about that. That is pretty crazy. I'll tell you what, my kids are addicted to it. It's like, well, I read it. I read it so I'm, I read it like a month ago. I just found out about both these things and I knew Harry Potter and the other movie. I nodded all out. Wow. I nod the whole thing out. How is it? It's the greatest thing ever.

2:37:08Is that in the movie? It's night and close. And I love the movies. Movies are great. But it's so fucking good and so in depth and so, I mean, it's the classic hero story, you know, hero's tale, but it's so fucking good and rereading it and just how deep the characters are and how incredible it is and it is beautiful. But Hamilton is number two. Greatest art. And I mean, when I say art, I mean, anything ever written, painted, musically sung. Really? One, two. Wow. And then the Bible? Maybe the departed. The part that might be three. It was in the part of it at first. When that elevator opens up and Leo gets a head blown off and then he, oh, I feel it still.

2:37:47He's three. That's you. You just killed all your credibility. He took departed over Apocalypse now. Oh, Apocalypse now. Great day. You take departed over Apocalypse now. I love Apocalypse now. But Hamilton, Joe, that good. Brother, it's so, if you like history, because I'm not a history guy. I'm not a, I mean, it's not talking about, because he loves history and I'm, you know, I know what I know, but I'm not looking for it. Right. I watched this shit, man. It was so cool. Everything is education. The whole thing, and you think it's gay, because it's like, oh, it's a musical. You think it's gay.

2:38:19Everyone's black. Like, why is Thomas Jefferson black? You know what I'm saying? Everyone in the play is black. And they're all playing these guys. Thomas Jefferson and Washington. But everything is singing. The whole thing is singing. So the writing is incredible. And it's literally the story of Alexander Hamilton. And I had no idea how important this man was. Wow. He was in orphaned. And then you know that the ends, of course, with the duel between him and Burr. Right. Which is insane. You know, Burr was vice president when he killed the treasurer. Really? Hamilton was treasurer, and he killed him in a duel while he was vice president.

2:38:53That's crazy. Because they had 15 years of beef, and you get to see why they've been beefing. It's just two ideologies of this man grew up orphan, mom died, dad left him. He's from the Caribbean, Alexander Hamilton. He's just an absolute genius who had to come out of the absolute mud. Aaron Burr is a trust fund kid who is a politician through and through. Who is raised to be a politician who never put, you know, his cards are close to his chest. And he never shows anybody what he's thinking. True politician. Hamilton's a wild guy. Well, I mean, everything from just the way he didn't like how Hamilton always is talking.

2:39:25And Hamilton is a loud guy and he's just a rambunctious and didn't follow the rules of politics. He was very, you know, wildguard. And he was also young. And Burr was like, no, you do this way. This way, this way, I was supposed to do it. So that happened for 15 years. And then what made him kill him was, Burr was going to be president. He was going against Jefferson. Jefferson and Hamilton had been beefing. They hate each other. But Hamilton didn't like Burr so much because he said at least Jefferson stands for something. And the last vote to make Jefferson president over Burr was Hamilton. And so that, and then of course he talks some more shit about him.

2:40:02And then Aaron Burr was like, we're doing fuck you. With musket guns. Musket guns. Those old school bullshit guns. And he got, because he shot Burr, I mean, Hamilton wasn't trying to kill him. He shot over his head because that was like a thing you do if you weren't trying to kill somebody. But you were like, I'm letting you know, but like we're doing, but I'm not trying to kill you. Right. But he didn't know because he shot first. Burr just thought he missed. So he shot him right in the fucking stomach, right in the ribs. Killed him. And it was at the set. It was like a few miles away. Maybe like near, right near the same spot where Hamilton's son died three years before.

2:40:31Like the law, that law. Knowing when it's too much. Like he could have just shot over him. Good if the other guy shot over him. But I thought you were, I thought you just missed. How am I supposed to know? I thought you were trying to kill me. I thought you were trying to kill me. Exactly. And no one saw it because you know, they, so to have a duel, you had to have other people there. You had to have a doctor, you had to have two people had to have representatives, all this stuff. But everyone turns around. So that way there's no, no one could go to prison for it. So they tried Burr for it, but there's, there's no eye witness.

2:40:57Wow. And it ruined the rest of Burr's life. The rest of Burr's life because everyone loved Hamilton. Because Hamilton was George Washington's right hand man. He fucking is the one of the main reasons we won the Revolutionary War. He was the, I remember when David Letterman got caught for cheating and was like, well, I'm gonna go out and, I'm not gonna get black now. I'm gonna go out and say, hey, I cheated on my wife. Get the fuck out of here. Like, I'll take the heat. Hamilton was the first guy to do that. Really? The Reynolds pamphlets. A woman did the same thing. A woman, he fucks this lady.

2:41:22And her husband comes up to him later and is like, hey, you owe money. You know, like the husband's like, hey, you fucked my wife. I know you fucked my wife. I know who you are. You can, you can keep fucking her. I think she's a whore too. But I will, you said it, but I want money. Really? Yep. And then of course, how much money? I don't know. I think it was like $30. But I don't know what that was at $17 ,000. If I could go back and talk to Hamilton, I give him the money man. Dude, it's cool. He wanted, he wanted continuous money. How much? I don't know the number exactly, but I think it was.

2:41:49I think it was this lady. Dude, how far is she? Apparently she was pretty good. If you can keep this relationship going. It's like, beneficial to everybody involved. You just need a little money. Oh, okay. You're not even mad, are you? Yeah. And you got the money, you Hamilton. What the fuck is he doing? Spend that money. Spend them fun coupons. But I think he also still, you wanted to, he didn't like that. The other politicians were using it open like, hey, we found out that you were doing this. And we did. What did they all monsters? They're all monsters. They're all monsters. They're all slaves.

2:42:17They're all slaves. That's what's the craziest thing. The moral high ground of the beginning of this country. We were getting away from these evil things. We got slaves. We were saying everybody's a monster. Yeah. Watches the most love. They had the most. It's like everywhere you go, there's hypocrisy. You know, like, did you ever see that thing when Don Lemon was talking to this lady about reparations for slavery? Did you ever see that thing? No. Oh my God. Please find this. Don Lemon is talking to this British lady about reparations for slavery and she lays out the beginnings of slavery to Don Lemon.

2:42:49And you see Don Lemon's dumbass like, oh, very interesting. Watch this. He didn't know. It's just he was saying something that, you know, there should be reparations for slavery. I think it's a political talking point at this point. I think there's people that still think that people today should get money because their ancestors were slaves. I totally understand that argument. However, with this lady saying, did you find it? It just has like a five second thing and it talks about the whole. But there's a video I watched yesterday. I'm just saying I didn't have it. I'm looking for it. Okay. I bet on YouTube it's available.

2:43:27Yeah. Don Lemon for a smart guy seems like. No, he's not. Idiot sometimes. Yeah, it's like I don't look smart. There's other people reporting on it. Okay. Let's hear it though. And then you have the those who are asking for reparations for colonialism and they're wondering, you know, $100 billion, $24 billion here and there, $500 million there. Some people want to be paid back and members of the public are wondering, why are we suffering when you are, you know, you have all of this vast wealth. Those are legitimate concerns. Well, I think you're right about reparations in terms of if people wanted though, what they need to do is you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain.

2:44:07Where was the beginning of the supply chain? That was in Africa and when that crossed the entire world when slavery was taking place, which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery. The first nation in the world to abolish it. It was started by William Willberth was the British in Great Britain. They abolished slavery. 2000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery. Why? Because the African kings were rounding up their own people. They had them on cages waiting in the beaches. No one was running into Africa to get them. And I think you're totally right. If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back to the beginning of that supply chain and say who was rounding up their own people and having their time -cocoping pages.

2:44:49Absolutely. That's where they should start. And maybe I don't know, the descendants of those families where they died in the high seas trying to stop the slavery that those families should receive something too, I think at the same time. Look at that dumbass. It's an interesting discussion. He knew he was in deep water. He knew the fuck he was talking about. Yeah. And he knew he had no history in his mind. He's like scouring his mind for an argument like that. Yeah. We check out on the slur again. He wanted something easy. He didn't eat one ready for that. The producers in his ear wrap it up down.

2:45:19Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Go on to commercial. Go on to Pfizer. Oh yeah. When the woman brought up the ships and everything, we got a nose -up and commercial on deck. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Oh, that beat. Yeah. That's the dirty thing about it. It's like there's people who are monsters. Yeah. There's Irish were slaves forever. People were indentured servants. They're brought over here. People have been monsters forever. And instead of doing that now, now they're picking fruit, picking lettuce with no health care for $2. Yeah. And we're shipping jobs over to there. So they work in these factories.

2:45:57They work at 16 hours a day for $1 an hour or $1 a day sometimes. Joe and I was in Abu Dhabi. One of the drivers who was taking us somewhere, he said he was happy because his family lives back in Lebanon or wherever they lived. But he was happy because he just got a raise to $2 an hour from the dollar. But I mean, Joe, you'd have thought he was a millionaire now. He was like, oh my god. It's like a 50 cent raise. But he was like the things I'll be able to do for my family back in Lebanon and all this stuff. And it was like, holy shit. Holy shit. Yeah. And then you're there and everything there is beautiful and pristine and everything seems like the richest things in the world.

2:46:35And they were really nice to us and it was awesome because we were getting to do the rich things. But when you would talk to that guy, I vividly remember that conversation because of how truly happy he wasn't in his head, he was like, this is great. $2 an hour. His expectations were very low. Yeah. That's the reality. Like when people like Bernie Sanders talk about like oligarchs and if you're going to have halves, like extreme halves just by the nature of the world, you're going to have have knots. And the disparity between halves and half knots is off the charts. And it's probably only going to get bigger.

2:47:09That's what's really kind of scary with AI and the ability to generate wealth and what you're going to be able to figure out and do and the different ways that people are going to be able to manipulate markets and dominate certain industries with AI. I think to have and have knots and then you're going to have also automation, which takes over everything. So all these jobs gone. But I was just driving. Have you ever like, we're not going to be driving much longer, dude. I don't think my kid, I don't think my kid is going to know driving. I think I think they'll know like no, you just, everyone has an automated car.

2:47:45Yeah, check this out. I'm going to share this with you, Jamie. I did this yesterday in my car. My car just drives itself, dog. Just drives itself. If you have a Tesla, if I put in my address, I go, I press these buttons and it just takes off. It stops at red lights. It changes lanes. It slows down when the traffic slows down, speeds up when the traffic speeds up. You could completely check out if you wanted to. Totally check out. You could totally check. I don't do it. I keep my hand near it. I'm still freaked out. Because you've been driving your whole life. Yeah, it's also just feel weird, but it does it.

2:48:23You got the video there. And it does it well too. I make sure I got other stuff on the screen and it doesn't cover that up. Oh, does it show things on the screen? On my screen. Oh, how dare you? Did it fuck up? No, no, no. What does it show like my address? No, it's just stuff that I don't want to show it on. Oh, I see. Okay, here it is. Check this out. This is me in the car yesterday. I don't like to do it all the time, but every now and again, it's pretty wild. It changes lanes. It hits the blinkers. See, look at these all those cars that screen. It's representative of all the cars. It knows where all the cars are.

2:49:02Look, it's changing lanes. It hits the blinker and changes lanes to get around these trucks. It's the future. Wild. It's over. How wild is that? It shows you on the screen on the front where your dashboard is. It shows you all the cars around you. All of them. It keeps track of them. It knows how fast they're going to that guy passman on the left. It shows that. Why? He's flying by you. So it's like, no, it knew the speed and rate. That he was going. And it knew that there was an open lane. So it hit the blinkers and it changed lanes. And it knows there's people behind me. It knows there's people to the right of me.

2:49:38No, it stops at red lights, dude. And then speeds up again. Stopps at stop signs. It sees the cars to the left and cars to the right. It knows when to go. And you could just kind of check out. You just like hold your hand like this. Think about your life. Have the robot drive you around. That is just going to be everywhere. Yeah, everyone's going to be driving in these robot taxis. You're not going to own a car. Like this is what the world economic forum wants. You will own nothing and you'll be happy. You'll be like that man who has $2 an hour. And so happy. All your food will be free. You don't need a job.

2:50:15That's where the have and have not get sketchy. Because when automation takes over, they don't worry. We'll give you universal basic income. And some they give universal basic income to everybody. So everybody's reliant 100 % on the government now. And then there's people that own all the electric taxi companies and own all the computer factories and own all the AI companies. And say my truck that'll be automated. Those are the aligarchs. Those are the halves and the halves never want to give that up. They always want more and more and more. They always want to keep winning that game. They want to stack.

2:50:50They want to be the first trillionaire. They want to keep stacking. Game of thrones. Because then it goes to your family and all of a sudden you're like, oh, maybe our family could be president one day. Our family now can. I drink your milk. Shink. That's it, man. What a call back. That's exactly what it is. That's it, man. It's a natural human dominator instinct. It's a tribal dominator instinct. And it's just applied to fiat currency and Bitcoin and financial power and influence and they want to control social media. And we're going to give everybody a vaccine. And nuts. You know those way modes.

2:51:27This high note is going to be have nots. You know those way modes cars, the self -driving cars. If you order one, it's still the same price as like an Uber. Pretty much. So it's like, where's this money going? Right. I thought the money was one of the driver. Right. Like I thought, OK, I'm giving half the money to the company. Probably half the money or whatever. However, they split it. But so now you're telling me there's no driver. But the price is a set. So you're not going to lower the price. Right. Where's this extra money going? And they're pockets. John is scared. More profitable. Because they're going to do that with semi -trusts.

2:51:54They're going to do whatever they're like. And then they're going to try to pass legislation to stop driving. You shouldn't be able to drive because their money is in driving you around. Why should you be able to drive? You're dangerous. You cause statistically. Statistically, humans cause all these accidents. You drink. Humans do this? Bro, that's how they can get you. That's why they're saying, you know, we don't need beef. Cows are destroying the environment. Cows are responsible for climate change and what it could be. I mean, a thing I have here in my plant -based meals, my plant -based burgers.

2:52:23You need unstoppable meat. I want whatever the fuck they have. But it'll be just like animal farm because they'll still be eating cow. They'll be eating. The top people are going to eat cheese and the nice fun things. Bro, they're going to be eating dodo bird burgers.

2:52:39They're eating Siberian tiger loin. They're having a good time carving up some rhinostakes. A bunch of monsters. You know, that's the whole market for rhino horns. You know what that market is for? It's rich people that want to get off on the fact that they're drinking tea from an endangered species. That's what the rhino horns that's what they're valuable for. That's why people are killing people. They're killing people so that they can kill the rhinos. They can cut their horns off so they could sell them to Asia where very wealthy people get off on the fact that they're drinking rhino horn tea.

2:53:20And they think it makes your dick hard. They do think it makes your dick hard. Which is hilarious. Yeah. You know about Viagra Bitsch. You heard a blue chew. What are you talking about? It's so stupid. But if there's way better ways, you don't have to kill the rhino. But that's not the point. The point is they want to kill the rhino so that they get this forbidden thing. We're responsible for extinction here as we sip this tea. That's how dark people get. That's not like the type of people that want exclusive things. That's the way people know. Oh yeah. That's it. I want to watch people. Darkness man.

2:53:51That's darkness. That's real human beings will do that. They will drink rhino horn tea. That's the only market for rhino horns. They're not valuable. It's not like tusks. Like elephant tusks are made out of ivory and ivory is very valuable. And they use it for all kinds of different things. And they always use it for ornaments. They used to make pool balls out of ivory. And then they stopped allowing people to sell ivory. And then you could only buy pre -band ivory in America. And but that makes sense because you're killing an animal for this one thing that's a commodity. And it's fucked up. But the rhino horn don't even make sense.

2:54:29Like you're killing an animal just so you could drink the tea. That's crazy. And they're almost extinct. Also to kill such a like a creature. A creature. Like wow, this is a fucking animal. A crazy looking creature man. Like it doesn't look like it belongs in this time. It looks like it's in the dinosaur days. I read this thing yesterday about you've heard the bear that's called the boss. Oh yeah, that one bear that's got like thousands of kids. Yeah. Joe, let's say it by a train. That means he got hit by a train. It was like running back. Run it back. You bitch, man. I'm gonna knock this motherfucker off the track this time.

2:55:02That's he got hit by a train twice. Has all the cubs. And apparently eats other bears sometimes just to let them other, remind people. Because he's so old that people the young bears triumph. So I started reading he eats sometimes just to be like I got to let everybody know. Bears eat bears. That's real common. Yeah, the Cubs. It's real dark. A friend of mine saw it. He saw my friend Jonathan up in Alberta. He saw a bear in a the the sour and the bore were fighting. So males, the bore females, the sour. They were fighting because the bear the male was trying to kill the Cubs. The females trying to fight them off.

2:55:35And eventually she can't fight them off and she retreat. He gets a hold of one of the Cubs and kills it. And then she scares him off of the cub that he killed and then she eats the cub. She eats her own cub. Once it's dead, she's like I'll just eat it. Why do you think this is food? It's like food. Once it's dead, it's just food. Bro. You think you think $2 an hour is hard, my.

2:56:03The bear is a shit non -gettos. Like you think it's hard. I go outside every day thinking I'm going to get eaten. Dilling with the boss bear. Well, that's what happens also when you have that's how nature balances out ecosystems. Because if there's no natural predators for bears, they have to they have to eat themselves. Just as nothing can eat a grizzly bear. Yeah, they have to eat each other. That's the only way they keep the population. They keep it. So all there's still some salmon and some other things left over here. So when when cubs are born, there's two things that happen. One, well there's three things.

2:56:36One, the male thinks of them as food. So he wants to kill them for food. They hunt them. They go into the dens. When the males come out of hibernation early, they go into dens to look for cubs to eat them. They know they do that for food. Two, they try to bring the female into estrus again. So if they can kill the cubs, then the female want to breed so she can have more cubs. And so they'll get the female so they should want to breed again. And then three is competition. They look at those cubs as potential future competition. So it's all these horrible ways. Is this beautiful nature? Nature's amazing.

2:57:10Nature is a fucking blood bath. It's a blood bath. Even the grass is screaming. They found out that grass screams now. The plants make noise when you're eating them. No. I can't move. I can't move. That's too much. No. That is the fact that we are the apex because you were saying some yesterday we were talking and we were saying how like it's crazy to think that aliens wouldn't think we're interesting. Yeah, that's that dumb argument that I had with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Like what are you saying? Because when you think about like me, we are the top dog on this planet. That's interesting in itself.

2:57:45That's different than everything else here. If you're going to study anything anywhere in the fucking universe, of course you would study human beings. If you're going to study anything, you would go what is this wild, crazy, territorial primate with nuclear weapons and cell phone addictions? What is this? And they're soft. We can easily be killed easily. And we're still top dog. And they might have made us. They might have engineered us son. That's a real on the table less than 0 % or more than 0 % possibility. We might have been genetically engineered. It's a real possibility. It's a real possibility when you look at other primates and us like what happened here?

2:58:27What happened here? How are our cousins still roaming around barefoot covered in hair? Yeah. You know swinging from trees, eating bananas. And we are somehow or another flying rockets with an all -chick crew. And then land it with parachute. It's like what? Why are we so different? And why we keep seeing UFOs? Like what the fuck is going on here? And we control the tigers, the things that could kill us. We're like no we're in charge. Yeah we're in charge. Bitch ass, water balloons. But basically blood balloons sticks holding it all together. Compared to things that are fucking built like trucks.

2:59:05Yeah every like a rhino. Like how the fuck is a rhino in danger for its stupid horn when our bitch asses are ones killing the rhino? Damn it. Doesn't make any sense. We're not even eating them. Just killing them and sawing off their fucking horns. That would be, yeah. If you're an alien you're like they do what? You see what they're doing now to rhinos to prevent this? They dart them and saw their horns off first so that no one wants to kill them. How fucked up is that? How fucked up? Have you seen that? No but the rhino must need the horn and like for protection for like it must need in some way.

2:59:38They want to fight. Yeah they want to fight other rhinos and fight off lions and shit like that. Yeah they need that horn. It means the reason why they have it. Yeah they evolved out of this giant fucking weapon in the middle of their face. So to cut it off. I need fucking past. What a fucked up way to go. Bitch. You ever seen launch lions into the ass? Yeah fucking launch those motherfuckers in there. Yeah like fuck you bro. Try getting through this. But yeah to cut that off. What does that do to the rhino? Can it live out in the middle? Yeah it lives fine. It lives fine but it just doesn't have a weapon anymore.

3:00:10But it also is not attractive to the main monster which is humans. And humans that just wanted to drink a tea to get your dick hard. Just get rocked up. Whoa. Break. They don't even work I don't think. Does it work? Is rhino horn? It might be one of the ancient Chinese secrets. Is it legit? Does rhino horn get your dick hard? No evidence. How dare you? I have a friend. You know that Ron Taylor comedian? He's in the ground. He told me he took it one time. He's like man I couldn't see anything but my dick was fucking. Really touching this. He took rhino horn? He took the like the gas station. I don't know if that's real.

3:00:41Oh that's not the same thing. Is that my professor's red band pills? No. But he said he couldn't see but man is dick was hard. He said he could feel it. Oh yeah no no no no no. That's like rhino 2000 those gas station boner pills. Yeah those are legit. Sometimes. But I mean you want to talk about taking a chance on your life. Who knows what's in there? Who knows what's in there? That was another thing I was reading about Chinese illegal vapes. Like bootleg vapes that have entered into this country. Pretending to be like legitimate companies that are selling vapes and they're just using fucking gutter oil.

3:01:17Who knows what the fuck's inside of those things. People are getting sick from them. Yeah. That no one gives a fuck about you man. That's nothing most of the world. Most of the world is trying to get them dollars. Get them dollars. Fuck the world. Oh fuck that man. Alright Derek tell everybody about your special. We talked this whole time. Didn't tell anybody about your special. We didn't but my brother. First thing I ever put out man I'm really excited. First thing I'm excited. I'm excited for people. And then the don't tell I really appreciate them and I feel like they're the new premium blend or comedy central presents like back in the day you know that arrow you know.

3:01:54Because I feel like Killtony is a mix between like late night and America's got talent. It's like a different face. Whereas this is for like a guy who are more my age who are like alright big companies really don't want them and you can put on YouTube yourself but do you have the money to make something looks nice. We'll make it for you and get you your first so you can have your first thing out. And where can people watch YouTube? YouTube don't tell comedy. There it is. There it is. Oh my god. I'm very happy for your brother. Very happy. I've been watching you grow since you came to Austin. It's been beautiful.

3:02:24It's been amazing. Knowing you from the comedy store you were one of the first guys to take the chance to come out of here. We all just said fuck it. Yeah done. We all ended up together and we were right. We were right. We were fucking so right. We were so right we're having so much fun. I mean Joey's gonna be in a night. It's a whole day. It's a whole day. It's a whole school day. Yeah Joey's here tonight. Very very excited. And you know Joey's performing here. Moon towers in town. Todd Glass was there last night. That was great. It's been Joe Derosa moved here now. He's the fucking best. I love him.

3:02:53We are having so much fun man. Thanks so much. I appreciate you brother. I appreciate you Joe. Thank you so much. Thank you. My pleasure. Everybody go check it out. It's on YouTube right now. Derek Poston on Instagram. Yes sir. Everywhere else. Everywhere else. Bye.

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