#2307 - Tim Dillon

23:51If somebody says something that they don't like and they can't immediately dismiss it, they go, but the fans of that thing are bad people. This is an interesting attack point. They go, but somebody with a massive audience, if they find a sliver of that audience to be objectionable in any way, they then go, well, the fans of that type of questioning are anti -Semitic or racist or something. And they don't deal with the actual facts or the actual line of argumentation. Yeah, it's just a sneaky debate tactic. When you're dealing with, I have 19 million YouTube subscribers. How can you nail that down to the fans?

24:35Right. You don't know. You're just talking out of your ass. This is a non -argument. It's a stupid point. And by the way, when you're talking about actual comments, we've already established that I don't know what the number is, but there's a huge number of people that are commenting that aren't even people. They're bots. Right. State -sponsored bots. They can be from Ukraine, they can be from America, they can be from Russia, they can be from Israel. And I want more of them. Yeah. So if they're a state -sponsored bots that can jack my ratings out. They can. If they want to come over to me. You have anything nice to say about Israel?

25:11Any Ukraine, I'm waiting for the money. I texted Barry Weiss ago, here's the way this game works. I get a little bit of money first. Not, not I go on and defend whatever the hell you people want to do. Whisk, I'm not going to get my beak wet. If you and I go to Israel, we slap on the Amica. Absolutely. Absolutely. Which is the wall. Absolutely. Oh, yeah, sure. I mean, did, did, and my film is Greenlit when? You have to kiss the wall. And my, no, I don't know anything. The wall is the way, is that the whaling wall? I don't know, but Mike Huckabee's over there. Like a good Christian. Oh, well, he loves it.

25:46He loves it. He loves it. Because the fundamentalist Christians go hard with the Israel thing. They're like, let's go. I think Jesus is coming back to that spot. Yeah, there, what's very interesting is if Israel said to a fundamentalist Christian, if Netanyahu called Mike Huckabee, he said, we're going to have to nuke Iran. He'd go, let's do it. That's what Jesus wants. Let's do it. That's what Jesus would want, a nuclear war. So that's where we've gotten.

26:13We've got this. Jesus wants us to use the nukes. Where we have fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalists is just fundamentalist Muslims on the other side and everybody's playing this weird game. And yeah, there he is. Boy, he looks old. Jesus. This is just hilarious. This is the freeze frame from the episode that we were in. These guys stop watching. They stop dying their hair at some point in time to say, oh, fuck it. You know, like, still wounded. The best hat they have is the Shrymal. They wear it in Brooklyn. It's that big furry Russian hat. Oh, I love that hat. That hat looks sick. That is a sick hat.

26:43It looks like something got a game of thrones. Yeah, that's a hat. Like, I don't give a fuck what you think. I don't remember the tribe, bitch. I got strings hanging from my belt. I got a. And I'm rocking a hat. I got a hat. A bare dick hat. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty sick hat. Yeah, I like that hat. I think people can't get past the fact that like, yeah, look at that hat. That has the shit. What's that made out of? Let's answer the question. Why do Orthodox Jewish men? Where's Ari when you need them? That's a great part. Ari never had to wear one of those hats, though. Nobody looked good. Yeah, I got a ton of hats from different UFC fighters.

27:15Yeah. From like Dagestan and from Kazakhstan. I got a cool Kazakhstan hat from Shavka. Romantic. It's a sick hat. That is pretty tough. It's an objective. Why is it a rare hat? There was an article that just said it before that. The fur one. If you go back up in upper left corner, upper left corner. Yeah. Jew in the city is the name of the website. Got to hope that Jewish versus running that website. Otherwise they're going to get assassinated. The fur hat is known by the British name. How do you say that? Strimal? Shrymo. Shrymo. The strimal was adopted by Eastern European Jewish communities in the 18th century and coincided with the rise of acidic Judaism.

27:57Technically, a shrymo is one particular style of hat. There are others. One that might be familiar on site is the Spodic. Oh, you fucking pop up at Coxucker. Enter your email. Which is taller and more cylindrical than a strimal. A Spodic is a style generally favored by a acidic sex of Polish descent. To the casual observer, however, they're all strimals. Strimals made from a large piece of velvet surrounded by fur. Fur usually comes in the tips of the tails of sable. Martins or fox. Nice. Synthetic strimals do exist. They're more common in Israel than elsewhere. Interesting. Strimal can cost thousands of dollars.

28:33So it's not uncommon for a acidic man to own a second cheaper strimal. So it is mainstream strimal. We not be battered by the elements. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Cool that. Let everybody know your part of the tribe. It's a fun hat. Maybe comedians mean like a thing that we wear. A hat? Yeah, like a thing that lets us know. Let's just know. We don't give a fuck. Yeah. I like that Kanye West black clan suit. That's dope. How about his giant swastika in diamonds? Have you seen that? What's funny is a jeweler made that? Oh yeah, jeweler. And a jeweler. Yeah. One thad in Israeli jewish got to get murdered.

29:07That's significant markup. Yeah, yeah, of course. I would give you a swastika. I would. I would. It's only fair. Yeah, you need a time. I think it's only fair. You want a jewish man to make a swastika. You got to be a swastika. You got to be a swastika. You got to separate, you know, and I think this is not. I think people got to separate like governments from people. Intelligence agencies from people. I think that's the whole thing. I think people are losing the ability to do that in this case, right? Because people that we criticize, Israel you criticize, something that may or may not have been done by a government or as intelligence agents, you're not criticizing people.

29:39You're criticizing a group of people making decisions. I don't think America always does things during the best interest of the American people. Right. Well, this is the problem with when everybody sort of picks sides during the COVID thing, whether or not we should trust the vaccine companies. Because like you did it because you're on the left and the people on the right where the ones who didn't want to take it. So instead of just looking at it objectively, the people on the left were like, everybody who doesn't agree has a science denier and it got like really kooky because it got ideological.

30:12And as soon as it's ideological, you can fucking justify anything. This is how how Jewish Americans are justifying. Well, Hamas uses people as human shields. Like they'll say things like that. Like it's a way you can justify mass murder. It's a way you can justify anything, anything as long as the tribe on your side, whatever your clan is, you can, you can justify things. And so people stop thinking. They stop thinking and they just think completely along ideological lines. First straight. It is. It is. And passionately, very passionately. Oh, they're right. You're wrong. No one is ever questioning anything.

30:50No, one ever. Question science. No one goes way to men. Like I think it's healthy to every now and then go, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, there was just something that got released today that showed, they just released today that showed that COVID -19 definitively came from that lab. 1000%. 100 % proof it came from that lab. I read it a little bit of it on the way here. Yeah, it's nuts. It's nuts, man. It's nuts. These fucking people, they just got roped into this and it was a man, completely man -made. 100 % disease. 100 % and they knew that from the moment it leaked. The moment it happened, they just lied.

31:29And Fauci is just out there walking around. That's an interesting, it's an, it's an interesting case. When someone like that in that position repeatedly lied to people about the origins of that. Yeah. And it's allowed to just be free. It's not even faces zero consequences. Well, you know, they were trying to pump and jail because he inflated the price of a condo. Yeah. Would you see what they got in a prazel that was higher and then they lied? Well, they're, their lives were horseshit. But you see that? Latisha James is now trouble for the exact same shit. Really? You didn't see that? That makes sense.

32:09They're investigating her because she allegedly, according to Megan Kelly, who I trust implicitly, allegedly went and got mortgages with her father. Listing them as husband and wife on buildings, right? Multiple times and then also lied about the amount of bedrooms that were in a place. Right. Because of its four bedrooms, you get one tax rate of its five. It's more so she lied. It was a five and she said it was a four. Right. Well, this is what they all do. So I think really the funny thing about all the cases that they brought against Trump, a lot of those cases were rooted in just politicized.

32:48Version of something that's pretty standard that a lot of people have done. Yeah, they always overvalued their properties. Always overvalued properties and people get away with it. And it's not, you know, crime. But here's the thing about the thing. It's not something. Yeah. Is that all the people had been paid. So not only was it profitable for the banks, he paid everything on time. Yeah. The loan, there's no criminal. Like there's no crime. No one got victimized. Nothing happened. Right. They profited. Right. And then this crazy lady with a terrible past thought that she was going to be able to pull this off because she was on the team that she thought was going to win.

33:25Like, yeah, I'm about putting all your eggs in one basket. Well, that a bunch of morons. It feels right in on these things. It feels like you have, there's some, we're in some kind of cold war between two factions in American politics that are using courts and lawyers to go at each other. Yeah. It's not hot war. People aren't fighting in the streets. But it does seem to be, these parties seem to no longer view each other as different sides of the same coin. There seems to be, especially when it comes to Trump, it seems to be like they cannot, you know, see him as anything other than an existential threat that has to be vanquished at any cost.

34:09Right. And the problem with that is when you deny good things and only highlight bad things that everybody knows it, well, now you're playing a game and your game is, I never tell the truth, I tell you parts of the truth that I like. And you got to win that game. If you're playing that game, you got to win. If you do all these things, they have to work. And if Trump gets an office, then you have to do all these things. It's a problem. You have your fucked. Then it's a problem. You know, it's like with JFK, they got them. Yeah. You know, obviously not good, but they got them and then that slammed the door shut.

34:42And then all their people came in and kept the cover up going on. I wish I really understood all this stuff that we talked about. Yeah. Because there's an argument that we haven't had a real president since JFK got shot. That's probably a good argument. And there's maybe arguments that we actually didn't have real presidents prior to JFK. Right. So what do you think is happening now then? Do you think that I think you have these guys, right? Those guys that go into the CIA, they learn all about these underground groups. They have all of these different relationships all over the world, right? Weapons, you know, weapons, drug running, weapons, all these different, you know, terrorist groups, crime syndicates, right?

35:29But their job is to know information about every government, all of the, you know, separatist groups that could potentially take over and become the next government. They have all these connections. And then they either leave the CIA, they retire, or supposedly it never occurs to any of them to make a buck. That's the real question, right? It never occurs to any of these people that there might be a great way to make a buck. Working with some of these people outside of Congress, the White House, all of that. That's, as it's been explained to me by pretty smart people, that's what you have. You have a rogue element of people in those agencies that have massive amounts of money.

36:19And they're very well connected. And they're running weapons. And the president has no idea what's going on. And Congress has no idea what's going on. They're not briefing a teacher from Georgia who got elected because he promised he was going to bring Bill the fucking shopping mall in a suburb of Atlanta about what they're doing in Syria. Did not briefing these people. There's nothing democratic about what's happening. And so then you think to yourself, you're like, well, how do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? How do we make sure everyone keeps their mouth shut? Then we go not only money, but that's when we bring in Jislin Maxwell.

36:59That's when we bring in Jeffrey Gibbs, right? That's when we bring in people who go, let's all have fun. We've got a great weekend getaway planned. And then we can all be on camera doing something that would get us thrown in jail, have people rightly disgusted and want to kill us. And the worst things ever are now on camera somewhere, those tapes are somewhere. Now everybody is completely incapable of ever coming out and saying what's going on. And then those people are running a parallel government. It's a parallel command structure. And that's a huge problem. And it was essentially completely in control for four years.

37:46Probably from more than four. But the last four for sure. That's the best example we've ever had of that. That's the best thing. That guy's never really running things. Thousands of people. There's no way they let him. And it's probably still in control to a certain degree now, because it's very hard, to when you have something like that happening, it is very difficult to completely shut it down. Well, it's very hard. Well, here's a perfect example that we know it's definitely running things. Because Trump is still trying to figure out why he got shot. He was like, I want more information. Yeah, like there's no information.

38:26There's not going to be information. Yeah, there's not going to be information. That's a crazy story. That's so there's you should try to connect, like if it's not America that did it, if it's not us, it's an intelligence agency that did it, that means a foreign government that hijacked this kid's brain and got him to climb on top of that roof. Like somebody tried to get someone to assassinate a guy who's running for president. And no one seems to be interested in finding who that person or that group who influences kid is. So many of these ex intelligence chiefs pop up all over the world. They pop up in Dubai.

38:58They pop up on MSNC. They like to travel. They love traveling. They're having meetings with people. They're all over the place. They love people. And they're just they love people. They love cultures. They love meeting different cultures. Yeah, the food's great. And supposedly I heard from someone who's again smart and I consider trustworthy that there's actually large sectors of the global economy that are moved more in this direction than you'd think. Like there are tentacles into very large investment banks and private equity companies that a lot of these guys have. Let's put it that way. Obviously it does.

39:31It's not a shocking thing. Why would the government let a private equity company operate with impunity? Right. So you have to have. So you have to have their controlling regulations and let's work together. Right. There doesn't seem to be a good answer to any of this. That becomes the real issue. You ever get invited to these like fucking illuminati conferences or any of these crazy things? No, they wanted me to do stand up at one conference and it wasn't like an illuminati kind. I think it was like I don't know. It was like some type of like low grade illuminati. Yeah. That's how it started. You know, like the minor leagues.

40:06Yeah. And then eventually you go to some weird ranch in the mountains of Wyoming. Well, that sounds nice. It actually does sound nice maybe. No, I think that like it does seem weird that a lot of once you get to a certain level, people take an interest in you that never were interested. You know, for sure. For sure. Yeah. People are interested. Welcome to my world. Yeah. It is strange that people seem to care about you. Or what you're saying or people are like, I think you read on that is wrong. And you're like, what do you care what it is? I'm a fucking guy with a talk, you know, microphone wants to twice a week.

40:50Yeah, but they don't like that. They don't like people having influence that haven't been sanctioned. They don't like that. Yeah, they want all influence to be top down. All influence to be a part of a giant corporation. Yeah. That's what they want. They don't want influence to be just regular people. Regular people are fringe. They're far this or far that. They're problematic. They spew misinformation and disson. There's no one who's more misinformation than CNN. Over the years. Over the years. How many times do you guys just what you guys did over COVID? If you were a podcaster, you'd be shut down.

41:23Right. Like if the podcasters were the one telling everybody to get Vax, you get it. You won't get you won't spread it. You won't do this. You won't that. There's no side effects. If podcasters are saying that, but the establishment news was saying, hold on. This is an experimental vaccine. We should not be asking women that who are pregnant to take this. We should not not asking kids who are no danger to take this. We do not know the long term consequences. If podcasters were saying that, you know, podcasters were on the government side instead of CNN. If CNN was the wise ones that told everybody to be cautious, they would want us prosecuted.

41:58They would be going after us for all the side effects of people experiencing. Yeah. You have blood on your hands. You're responsible for strokes and heart attacks and myocarditis and all sorts of autoimmune diseases. Well, you also have to think about how much ease here it is for it. Let's say an intelligence community to manipulate them. Then it is to come in here like a intelligence community is not going to go. All they have to do is bring me to the UFOs. No, no, no, for sure. You keep telling them that. Yes. That's all you have to do. That's what it is. Is it going to go to rollercoaster vote?

42:27I don't even know where a cost of a reason on a map. But if you tell me whether you have a pose or I'll have a guy in here that explains why it's super important. But it is funny. It's like what they'd have to do is pick somebody, have them become a comedian. Start a podcast, get in on it. Like it is difficult, right? Whereas if you work at a media company, it's very easy to just some new guys there. Yeah. Who's this? Right. You know what I mean? Somebody just shows up. Hey, Suzanne. Suzanne, run everything by Suzanne. Hey, how does this guy Bob Woodward? Why does he get the most important? He just, this is his first case lucky guy gets watergate lucky guy.

43:04Wait a minute. What did he do for Navy intelligence? Right. Lucky guy. That was a good thing. So fun. But I've been here for 30 years. I haven't got anything. Fuck you. Bob's taking this case. Bob's taking down Nixon. Who's kept keeps asking questions about what happened to Kennedy. Did you see when Bill Murray was here? I did. Yeah. Did you see the thing that he said about wired the book? Yeah. Wait, which one? Why is the book on John Belushi? He said I read the first five pages and I was like, oh my god. They set up Nixon. Oh, that's hilarious. They frame Nixon. That's so funny. This is what he said.

43:38Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, if this is what they say, this is what the same guy said about John Belushi, which is 100 % not true. Right. You know John Belushi with a lightweight. Right. He would drink a couple of beers and he'd be fucked up. Right. He didn't have tolerance. He wasn't this maniacal coach. No. He was just a bit of a... There was all lies. They don't care at all about getting any accurate information. That time that he died, it was probably the first time he ever did a speedball. Wow. Bill Murray. And Bill Murray was one of his best friends. Bill Murray knew. Bill Murray's like, I've known this guy most of my life.

44:08Right. And then he goes, they frame Nixon. Right. And then I told him the whole story that Tucker Carlson had told me. Yeah. Which I was like, what? That it was all FBI agents. Yeah. The whole thing was a complete sting. It was a sloppy burglary where they wanted to get caught. They traced it back to Nixon because Nixon was doing things they hated. Well, this is the thing they got Nixon on. I don't know if you know. But what they said to Nixon, if Nixon was not guilty of the crime, but they told Nixon about the crime and then he helped them cover it up. That's how they got him. Right. But what is he going to do?

44:42Of course. He thinks this is on the... Of course. And you come to him with the crime like, oh, Jesus Christ. Well, the fucking telling him about him, Jesus Christ him. What did you do? You bugged Cap City? Yeah. Fuck. They had to get rid of him. Yeah. This is what we're going to do. We're going to throw our phones in the river. Yeah. Right. Here's what happens now. Okay. Okay. Okay. How do we get out of this? Yeah. Where did you put the bugs? Can we break it and take the bugs back? That's so funny. Yeah. They'd be so flattered if we bug Cap City. That's awesome. Somebody told me last night that they hate us.

45:16I'm like, how do you hate me? I love you. I used to love the old Cap City. If you got headlight, Cap City. If you got headliners and you need them, I promote it. I'll promote it on Twitter. Yeah. And same thing with Moon Tower. Yeah. They're mad at me too, because I wouldn't have them at the club. I'm happy to help you. I would have it help you. I just want you to book my club. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. My club is sold out every night. Yeah. And it's guys like you and Shane and Ari and all these, I don't want anybody else booking it. It doesn't mean that I don't support your cause.

45:47Of course. I just don't want you coming into my establishment. That's all it is. I don't, I want everybody to do well. There's five comedy clubs on my street. What you've done, I think, ultimately is good for the town. You bring people into the town. The problem is when people used to be in control of comedy in the town. And then all of a sudden they're not. And they used to be like the person that people would go to. And now they're insignificant. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of people struggle with that. The idea of that, that they're losing control. I think that seems to be the most, the angriest I've seen people online since the election that have railed against podcasts.

46:27And they've railed against. They seem to be angry that they no longer have a monopoly on what people can hear. Exactly. And they still continue to lie and misrepresent people that do podcasts that people that are on a, have a different opinion, say. And that's where it gets really stupid. You know, like they keep saying that, you know, when I had that Darryl Cooper guy on that I'm bringing on a Nazi apologist in a Holocaust denier. Like that is neither of those things are true. Yeah. It's not true. And the guy doesn't just talk about that. By the way, his stuff about Jim Jones is fucking sensational.

47:08You know, Jim Jones was like a civil rights leader. Yeah. Jim Jones had an interracial child. Well, I didn't know anything. Yeah, Jim Jones was like, he would, he had an adopted black child that he would take to school. And everybody would be fucking furious at him in the town. Yeah. And he was like, he was a legitimate Christian. Like a real, I believe, in the teachings of Jesus Christian. One of the big things in the American cookie on the map. Yeah, of course. The meth got him. Yes. Listen, there are a lot of people question World War II for not good reasons. Of course. It's like people that bring up the age of consent.

47:37You go, wait a minute. You know, what's going on? What are you doing? There are people. There are people I think that do wander. Not great reasons for questions for question World War II through whatever. However, no doubt. No doubt. There is a very interesting. The teeth really come out. In this country, when you question at all the American war machine. Yes. And the pageantry of war and the, you know, iconography of the state and of war and of how important it is and how just it always is and how we're always on the right side of it. And we're always doing the right thing. And World War II, we 100 % were.

48:25But there are a lot of other times when we've made grave errors with our military. Yes. And I feel like it's not good enough for you can't just point to World War II, which is again, we were correct. Yes. But I think there is this idea that if you do, it's not an accident. There's a million movies made about World War II. It's not an accident that there is a lot of pageantry surrounding World War II. Well, also that the World War II movies have heroes. Of course. Where there's non movies or apocalypse. That's right. Everything's complicated and it's all chaos. So I think that inspires the idea that a military solution is always correct.

49:08And that the use of force is always the right way to do it. And that coincidentally makes people lots and lots of money. And their children never end up fighting those wars. Yes. That seems to be a lot of it. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people with bad motivations that are genuinely anti -Semitic or that genuinely are fascist inclinations or absolutely are. But I think there needs to be space to criticize the mythologizing of war in general and the justification for endless wars all the time. Yes. Like Iran. I hope Trump does not go into Iran. Yeah. That seems like a very bad idea.

49:47It also seems like a very bad idea for Iran to get nuclear weapons. That seems bad, too. Yes, but I think there's ways to prevent that without a regime change war. This is what we have to do. This is what Tulsi Gabbard I think was very attractive about a lot of what she said during our confirmation hearing. She goes, I understand that there are terrorists out there that are dangerous. But we got to find a way to deal them without committing troops to stand there in an Islamic... We've done this. We saw this movie. Yeah. It doesn't work out. You know, and I think we have to stop thinking that it's going to be better this time.

50:19If we decapitate the head of a foreign government and we have American soldiers in an Islamic country trying to set up a provisional government, the nightmare of that during Iraq, pole, bremmer, this weird British -looking guy that they sent to stand on that rebel with his boots and you know, the mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier. Like, it brings back like, you know, to me, it's like I get flashbacks from it. Do you remember the guy who was the Iraqi public relations guy who was saying that they're winning the war? Was it Akmachalabate? Well, no, that was a guy that fed us all the bullshit to get us in.

50:54No, no, no. Was the guy that they... people openly mocked. I believe he had glasses. And he was the guy that was always saying that Iraq is kicking ass. How interesting, no. Yeah, Baghdad, something or another they called him. And he was saying that we were doing good? No, no, no. He was saying that Iraq is kicking our ass. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Farmer's Dog. It doesn't matter how old your dog is. It's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness. And thankfully, the Farmer's Dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies.

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52:53Pay for by the American Beverage Association. Well, do you remember the area? I don't remember that. I had to add something or another they call them. By the way, does anyone know what's going on in Iraq right now? I couldn't. If there was a gun in my head, I could not tell you what the state of Iraq. I know the Taliban are in Afghanistan. What's going on in Iraq? Listen, listen, listen, listen, hear that, ready? That's a gay guy threw off a roof. Right. Right. So that's what we said. That's a 20 year, you know, commitment. It was a very long time. Right. So that's like, I feel like that's the thing that when you ever try to have a nuanced understanding of what we can and can't do.

53:37I don't think it's a great idea that Ron gets new to weapons. It seems like there are ways to prevent that. We can make ISIS in charge. Full -scale invasion. But don't we need these, like I think, like it, I always look at these groups like the Houthis and stuff. We need these people. On the present. We need them. And the Houthis are fun ones because they're like on the ocean and they're like pirates.

54:01This is new. They figured out that like land -based stuff is not as injured. They're disrupting trade. You know how much of our trade goes through it? It's 3%. Hey, 3%. Don't minimize that. Just like I don't want you minimizing the female astronauts. These women in, yeah. But we need these Houthis. It feels like we need these groups. We had ISIS. We had then ISIL. Now, you know, we had the people in Syria. I forget their names, something. But we need these little groups. And this is what we do. We just choose because all of these groups are not even, they're just people hanging out. And then we give them weapons and get them going.

54:38They're just guys in a bar. A lot of these groups are guys in a bar in Syria. They're sitting a hole in the ground. They're sitting a hole in the ground. And it's like, it's like that Bill Hicks joke where it's like pick up the gun. You know, especially it's like, are the Houthis an existential threat to the United States? That feels crazy. The craziest thing was. Just feels insane. Trump showing the video of them getting bombed. Oh, yeah. It's a while. We could kill, this is the problem. We could get rid of all of these threats in five minutes. Yeah, but we don't want it. We don't seem to want it.

55:17It's not good for business. No, we gotta keep. It's like you can't come to a market every week. You'll burn it out. No, the Houthis are good. I would be doing stand up. You gotta go once a year, once every 18 months. And I like the Houthis because they feel it's a good new, but they're not sticking. It's not no one's believing it. So now they're back to Hezbollah. Hezbollah wears the fatigues. If you get up Hezbollah, they're scary looking. The Houthis are not that scary. The Houthis look like a bunch of dudes in like a bizarre. Like you said, like in a flea market. They're on a boat. They're holding up guns.

55:49No one cares. Hezbollah looks genuinely like, okay. Let's not fuck with these. It was like Shane's bit about the Iraqis or the Afghanis. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I would go into the fucking the workouts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like we think they're like an elite army. Oh, God. You can do jumping jacks. You're gonna say do anything. But that's the whole thing. It's like it's just weird. Global chessboard of like we, you know, as someone said to me once, that there's like a dial, you turn it out. You're like more war, less war, more war, less war. I'm gonna see more conflicts. If smelling salts are good for allergies.

56:23Have you got any of the allergies out here? No, I don't get it. The first year of legitimately getting them. Cedar fever.

56:32I think you got to do cocaine. They make allergy medicine too. Yeah, that's no fun. Yeah, maybe Zer attack or something. That's no fun. What is it, the cedar? I don't know what it is. I think it's people say Cedar. But I know it's been running and did you hear the story? Mark Hopper actually might have helped the military capture so I'm his aunt. What? So they were on a USO tour in 2003. And they got asked to come in to do like a private show. And he sat down. It's like I'm here. So it's sir. I have a plan to catch so I'm who's saying the musician recalled telling a Navy Admiral on board the aircraft carrier and the Persian Gulf.

57:09According to Hopus, who said had been sending video messages to his followers from an unknown location at the time. The musician felt that the military could use drones to their advantage and uncover his location by pulling data from the video messages. Sir, what about having drones fly over the region and carpeting patterns broadcasting time codes above the level of human hearing but at the level that a video recording would catch it. Hopus suggested to the Admiral. Then the next time he releases one of his videos, you could listen to it, pull the ultrasonic data and triangulate the drones you have flying all over.

57:42Holy shit. This is the guy from Blink 182. I think his dad was in the military. Someone was in something. He knew. Okay, this brings me back to that fucking strange times in Laurel Canyon Shit. Yeah. Four months later, Sodom was located in caption in Iraq. So you're welcome, everyone. What a great book. Well, not only Tom O 'Neal book, but then this Dave McGowan book, Weird Seen's Inside the Canyon. I lived up there when I was living in LA. I lived up there and I'm telling you, that is a creepiest vibe of any area that I've ever been to in my life. It's a weird vibe. They have that fucking military insulation.

58:16I'd look at a mountain. Jared, let her owns that. He lives there now. Does any of the whole cult? Shh. Okay. He's a good guy. I'm sure he is. He's saying it's bad to have a cult. They tried to investigate his cult. Sure. It turns out it's not really. It's just a bunch of people having fun. Yeah. There's no requirements. There's no one asked you to fuck him. There's no. No, it's a voluntary fuck cult. It's not even voluntary fuck cult. Is it just they get together and dance or something? I don't know what they do. I lived there for three years. I didn't get one text. I had not one. I used to drive by and point at it and go look.

58:51It's the thing. What do they do? What does Jared let us? It's like a summer camp. It's called like echelon. Yeah. It's a summer camp. I'm afraid you just have to go watch the band play close up. Oh. What the fuck's the problem with that, Tim? How about Tim Dylan Fest? I have no problem with that. I'm basically skankfest. It's just a bunch of people eating shellfish and long island being racist.

59:12Yeah, absolutely. I have no issue with that at all. What a fun time though for us. Yeah. Because everything's just taught. There's so much stuff to talk about. Everything's nuts. Do you think, you know, I was on the all -in podcast the other day and they were talking about these chips, these NVIDIA chips and how what's interesting is people are setting up. Because we have these export controls that don't allow us to send certain chips to China because they're able to manipulate them and then become the world's largest semiconductor producer. But now all these fun fake companies are starting like Bhutan or Cambodia and they're buying the chips or Singapore and then they all get back to China.

59:53Well, one of the guys who worked at whatever the preeminent AI system in China was saying that they have 50 ,000 of these fucking ban chips. That's so wild. Whoopsies. And so they were talking about like is it better to send them the chips or is it better too if you don't send them the chips then it spurs their innovation and they make the chips. Well, either way, they're going to get the chips. Yeah. They're getting the chips. They're both innovating and stealing at the same time. Can there be anything done to stop their rise? No. Not at this point. Doesn't feel like it, right? There's so much more technical, honestly advanced in so many different areas now.

1:00:31Like the drones that they have are so superior to the commercial drones that we have because drones over here, you have to have a pilot's license to drive the really spicy ones. Do you think some of those drones over New Jersey were theirs? Could be. I think they were ours. I honestly do. Otherwise, I think they would have shot them down if they could. I don't know if they could. And maybe they wouldn't because then it would alarm people because then it would like, you would show that that is a legitimate threat. We're fighting for like satellites of supremacy in the sky too. That's crazy. Crazy.

1:01:04The internet, the Starlink. I mean, essentially Elon's launching Starlinks all over the fucking world. Do you worry about the tech people being Democrats up until five minutes ago? Yeah, you should. But I think a lot of those people have shifted sides. They've shifted sides because they understand that, well, you know, I had Mark Andreessen in here. And Mark Andreessen was explaining, he said the most terrifying meetings we ever had was when we were part of an AI startup in the government came in and said, we're not going to let you do this. Not only we're not going to let you do this, we're not going to let anybody do this.

1:01:36We're going to have a small amount of these things. We're going to completely control. Yeah. He was like, what the fuck? Like you guys are really openly saying this. Yeah. You're going to inhibit innovation at the highest level of technology. Some shit that you probably don't even understand, but you want to have absolute control. I think the worry is that people don't trust the government nor should they, but I don't know if they trust these tech eyes either. You shouldn't. Yeah, you shouldn't look what's going on with open AI. That's the whole thing. I think the people are wary of the tech people because they've now, these were the same people that were censoring and kicking people off the internet when the people in the White House were blue.

1:02:13Right. And now that the people in the White House are red, they are, it's swung back the other way. Exactly. So I think people are a little wary of that. Yeah. They don't know where that goes. It's just power. It's just, it's just, I mean, like Bernie Sanders is right in that you should be scared of oligarchs and oligarchs shouldn't be running our government. He's right in that regard. And when people get into positions of just unchecked power, so let's say if someone had control of some tech company, let's say it's an AI company and that AI company literally creates the unstoppable AI that helps empower the entire country.

1:02:52And there's one guy's in control, and he's worth $3 trillion dollars now. And he's decides to lobby and change a bunch of laws and influence politicians and his company starts donating to certain politics. You could change the fabric of society with enough money and enough power and enough influence, especially if you could completely control what the narrative is. In terms of like, when people Google things, when they search things, when they talk about things, you can completely control what they're allowed to talk about and how that narrative gets countered instantly with facts and bullshit.

1:03:27Yeah. You can just, well, it's being done everywhere, right? So it's being done at the highest levels. And I think people are uncomfortable with just losing, even though a lot of them realized that we didn't have a ton of control, they feel like, I think when you head into the world of tech where people just don't even know where this goes, where does it go? Is it going to transhumanism? Does it go to like AI replacing everybody? And then at what point, what do you do with those people that AI replaced? You give them all cryptocurrency that's linked to their biological, whatever. Do you? I've heard all these ideas, right?

1:04:06Like, how do you deal with driverless cars where the entire road is automated? How do you deal with that? I think I've filled people with an anxiety where they go, what is the plan? And there are a lot of these tech guys like, well, we've got to get off the planet. And I think people start going like, wait, you know, like, that's one thing. Eric wants a lot of people. That's a lot of people. I don't know what you're saying. There's a lot of people. There's no air on Mars. Like, let's not go there. Yeah. Well, for sure. For sure. Do you think Trump and Moscow have a falling out eventually? I don't know.

1:04:39It's a good question. The media keeps trying to push that they are. It feels like they're just big personalities in that there's an inevitability when you have two guys that are incredibly, you know, perhaps. But Elon is very smart. And you see he's always very deferential. Yeah. And he's always very respectful. Mr. President, it's always that. Of course. That's how I treat him. I always call him so. It's Donald Trump. Yeah, I get it. You're fired. I get it. But he's also the president of the United States. I call him, sir. But I call everybody, sir. Yeah. I call everybody, sir. Yeah. It's like the byproduct of me living in Texas now.

1:05:18Right. Sure. Yeah. But I don't know if they're going to just get pulled over anymore here. And if I do, it's not that big of a deal. If you get pulled over here, a cop gives you money.

1:05:31The good Mr. Rogan, here's a check. I mean, there's no way. There's no law that you cannot break here. I'm guaranteeing you. I don't think that's correct. I think you could do a lot. I think they would, you would, they would cover up a murder. That's sweet. If you murdered three people, I think the awesome PD would go, whatever man, they's doing a lot. They bring that mayor, that guy, and he'd go, what? They go, give the suspects Joe Rogan, he was standing over the bodies, they'd go, are you out of your fucking mind? Drive him home right now. Drive that man home. If I was in Waste Deep in Rainey Street, Oh, yeah.

1:06:05Drowning a party, go, or I don't care. Bro, they still don't want to admit that there's a serial killer. Or the tourism board. Yeah, no, there's something's up. There's a serial killer. Something's going on. I believe there's a serial killer. What are they doing? They're luring people to that bridge and then, yeah, it's not hard. People like to get to the bridge. They just got to look out for the potion. I guess it's such a high to kill someone. It's, to me, I'm like, what do you get out of it? But I guess the people that are doing it like it. They're broken. There's broken people. Some broken people do math.

1:06:36And some broken people drown guys like the party. Do you ever talk to like, I'm sure you have. This is stupid question. But like the high level law enforcement guys that have just met these monsters and stuff. Oh, yeah. And is there, is there, do they believe that it's like, is there any part of them that believe someone's just born? Yes. Interesting. Yeah. And it's generally you have psychotic parents. And so it's, whether it's nature or nurture is hard to separate because you're probably abused. And generally at an early age, they show like a willingness to torture like house pets and stuff like that.

1:07:12Yeah, they'll maybe start off with a frog. They catch and stick out like a firecracker in its mouth and stuff like that. And then they eventually work their way up to humans. Now it seems so much harder to do it because of these phones, surveillance. It is, but it's, you can still do it. Not in Austin. You can get away with drown folks. You can drown people. Why don't you think they'll admit it? They don't want people getting spooked. It's a good question. It's a good question. Maybe, um, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, one of the biggest things every Austin with those crazy yogurt shop murders, HBO just came out with a documentary about, what was that?

1:07:46It was many years ago, this crazy yogurt shop murder thing, HBO just did a doc happen in Austin. It was like a famous case and they've, it's completely unsolved except they put some people in jail for it, but then later let one of them out. Like it was just one of those things when nobody was sure about what happened. So there were murder and people that went to the yogurt place? It was 1991 and it just south by Southwest. They just did a huge, oh, it was one homicide, a quadruple homicide, which took place at, I can't believe it's yogurt shop in Austin. That could have been me in 1991. Wow. It's, uh, 34 years ago, 34 years ago, to Nondipeli, 14 girls were murdered in Austin.

1:08:2914 year. Wow. And it's puzzled. They don't, that's an unsolved murder. I checked the boyfriends. And there's many different theories about it. Wow. That's crazy. Four men were arrested and charged capital murder in 1999, but two of their cases were overturned. The other two never went to trial. Wow. Interesting. So there are these things that happened. Oh, yeah. Well, that's what they say that if you just randomly shoot someone and kill them, like if you're a real, real, like, Randos, like, did you ever see that movie, Henry Portia Viserio killer? No. It was about a guy named Henry Lee Lucas. Oh, wow.

1:09:08Yeah. And Henry Lee Lucas was attributed, they attributed like 62 murders to him. The problem is, I think one of the things cops do is they go, did you kill this guy? Yeah, I killed him too. Where'd you bury him? Where was he buried? Oh, that's where I buried him. That kind of thing. Now you got, now you got a case solved. That was the accusation about Henry, because he was definitely a murderer and a grifter and a drifter and he was traveling around the country stealing things. But then they made a movie about him. And then the movie, it's like what he's way more sinister and calculated. But he would just randomly kill people.

1:09:44So they all take credit for things they didn't do? Exactly. To just beef up the body count. Exactly. Because that's what they want. They want attention. They're already in jail. That's so wild. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, when you have shitty DAs and shitty prosecutors and shitty cops, they'll do stuff like that. Do you think that there are people that, you know, national parks seem to be like a hotbed of people disappearing? And do you think population trail people? Yeah. Do you think that's people getting you? Or is that a lot of it? Like I got lost. I got eaten. You get lost. You get eaten. There's a guy who has this whole series four, one.

1:10:22Is it 911 missing or 411 missing people in national parks? Listen, man, you're just meat out there and you get eaten. And by the way, you don't find dead anything out there. You don't find dead mountain lines. Guess what? They die all the time. I've never seen a dead mountain line when I was hunting. Because they get eaten. They get eaten. Everything gets eaten. Not only do you get eaten, your bones get eaten. Everything gets eaten. So it's not uncommon to disappear and there's no trace. No trace. Yeah. Yeah. Super common. So if you're in a high traffic area, like I've hunting, I've found elk bones where a hunter killed the elk and then took all the meat off the bones and then left the bones there.

1:11:06That's what you do when you pack out meat. And I've found those animals. I actually even found one animal that I shot a long time ago. I shot like four years ago. And you found it. Yeah, we were in the same location. It was the same bones. There wasn't all the bones there left. Some of them had dragged away. Some of them had probably been eaten by rodents. You know, they eat the bones slowly but surely. And if you're a human, you're made out of nothing. You're so easy to eat. Our bones are less dense. Our meat is soft and chewy. Yeah. Like we could devour a bear would eat your whole body. There would be almost nothing left.

1:11:43And rodents would eat what's left. Yeah. They've got to be careful in those places. You can't be careful. Like if you don't have a GPS navigation system that has a lot of batteries, if you don't have a compass, have a compass and know how to use it, if you don't have a map, it's so easy to get lost in woods. It's so easy. They're all around you and you can go in one direction and circle around. You don't even realize you're circling. And then three days later, you're back to where you started. You're like, fuck it, no! Yeah, it's terrible. You've been eating a tree bark for three days. And you're saying, and he's stepping on to see the highway.

1:12:16What a horrible thing. People die like that all the time. All the time. Just go to a hotel. It's very difficult to get out of your zone. Just go to a resort. If you don't know the woods, you're not used to being in the woods and you're not used to having landmarks and follow and know how to use a compass, know how to use a GPS. Some people are good at it. And even they get eaten. You'll get eaten too. Well, you break your ankle. Right. How about you break your ankle out there and you can't hike out. It's not possible. Right. What do you do? You fucking die. That's what you do. Gotta be very careful.

1:12:47And then you hear something at night. You're sleeping under a tree and you hear something at night. Right. Right. You've got a bear sniffing you. It's crazy. You can't run away and you don't have a weapon. You can't do anything. It just eats you alive. And those will just have dents in a Pacific Northwest and stuff like that. I mean, everywhere, but especially the Pacific Northwest. Especially there, it's like crazy. Yeah, you don't find nothing out there. But that's why the big foot rumor persists up there. It's because the woods are like a box of cute tips. Right. You know, like you can't see shit out there.

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1:15:18A must watch on the big screen The Naked Gun only in theaters August 1st. Oh yeah, you can kill them there. People die up there all the time. Did you ever see that documentary Sasquatch? No. It's a documentary that was on Hulu, Jamie. We had the director and I think I've created it. It was awesome. And what it's really about is about marijuana growers murdered a guy and then blamed it on Bigfoot. Wow. So these marijuana growers in Humboldt, like that, up that area. So they all were hippies, right? And then they started growing weed and then cartel people moved in and gangs moved in. And they started robbing these people.

1:15:59So these people became heavily armed. And so then they started having wars with the growers and cartel people. And so there was these people that were trying to steal from them, they murdered these people and then they blamed it on Bigfoot. They ran over them with a fucking backhoe and crushed the fudge. These hippies are really violent. Oh, they get violent once they're money. These hippies are junkies and this whole hippie thing I think is kind of a lie. Well, they all become people with money, if you're growing weed. You become a multi -millionaire who's carrying a sidearm. Okay, and you're gonna protect your money.

1:16:32And then these people are trying to kill you to take your shit. So then you're like fucking Jason, whatever his name is in Ozark. Right. What's Jason Bayman? Just a Bayman. Right. And now you're drug dealer. That's so funny. It's so funny that we are like marijuana where it's like it's federally still illegal, but like states, it's legal in certain states. Yeah. And there's that gray area where there's just like, you have half of that business is like in the shadows and half of it's and people make lots of money. It's strange. Well, not only that, because California made it legal, they also made it a misdemeanor to grow it illegally.

1:17:06Right. So what happens is these cartels started growing it on National Forest land. And so then Game Warden started finding it. This guy named John Norris has been on the podcast before he wrote a book called Hidden War. And it was all about, he was a Game Warden and he became a part of a tactical crew that was busting cartel members who were heavily armed, and grown marijuana in National Forest. Nah, that's crazy. Fuck it's this. Yeah. Because most of the illegal weed that's been sold all over the country was being grown there. So in the places where it is illegal, they grow it where it's legal.

1:17:41And if they get busted, it's just a misdemeanor. So it doesn't matter. And they're not going to deport anybody because California is a sanctuary. Right. So it doesn't matter how many acres and acres. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And so because it's federally illegal, it's just like when there was a prohibition that propped up organized crime. Same thing. You've just propped up illegal businesses to sell something that has a demand that normal. Do you think weed's going to be federally legal? If I had to guess not during this administration. Yeah. No, I don't think. No, it feels like a lot of the, you know, like the experimental harm reduction policies in places like Portland to go in the other way.

1:18:17Well, they went a little crazy in a place that was already crazy. Yeah, they had a woman driving around shooting people up called a stab in a wig. And she was like, if somebody needed, if somebody needed a fix, she'd like pull up and give them clean needles and stuff. Is it really called a stab in a wagon? It was called a stab in wagon. And yeah, because you're stabbing. And if you're just tweet, I'm like a horrible. No, this is like a way to help. Oh, Portland. This was a way to help people. Oh, Portland. And people would just be chilling and like, hey, I need a couple of clean needles. So this woman would just show up.

1:18:46There'd be like a bunch of junkies hanging out. She'd show up. She'd hop out of the stab in wagon with a bunch of clean needles hand them out. People like, fuck yeah. Good to see you. Oh, my God. And she's like, fuck yeah. You're all doing good. And they're like, well, you know how it is. Oh, my God. And the problem was that didn't work.

1:19:04Not only didn't work. Didn't work. It encouraged people to move there. Yeah, actually, that's true. So people started moving there because you're like, this is actually a pretty good deal. They don't care if you live on the street. And there's this bitch in a van that shows up with clean needles. And they give you money. Yeah. And whatever you need. They give you free money and food. Yeah. Yeah. Here it is, the stab in wagon. Stab in wagon. Harm reduction. Not mean it's real. She'll use 4 ,000 followers. That's fucked. Hit that follow, Jamie. Hit it on the follow. There you go. Look at the step.

1:19:34There's a stab in wagon. Well, at least she's healthy. I don't need my algorithm. She gets a stab in wagon. OK. Makes sense. At the end of the day, it's like that seems like a good way to combat drug use is to have a van of drugs. That van got a $1 .5 million grant. Did you see that? Did you see that in the previous argument? Of course. $1 .5 million grant. Well, because you're trying to help people. Get high. They're trying to help people get high in a safe way. Where she parked that van? That's what I need to know. I mean, it's a good question. She probably lived in the burbs and then came in and then did what she needed to.

1:20:05She lived in the burbs lady. Wow, that's a good point. Well, you know those weird, the North, those specific Northwest suburbs, a lot of them aren't my burbs. The ones that I like. Those people are different. It's different. They're like people that live outside of Chernobyl. Yeah. They're forever changed. It's different. There's not a lot of sun up there. Something's going on. Yeah, DNA damage. What was funny is that there's a big article where they were like, yeah, this is actually like, what's crazy is like, you read about those cities, right? Like Portland, San Francisco. They'll do the craziest thing ever.

1:20:35And then like two years later, they'll start going like, yeah, this just is not having the results that we thought it would have. Like, this is drug use is up. Crime is up. Violence is up. So, Santa Monica now is doing a curfew because there's been violent crimes at night. No way. They're thinking about doing a curfew in Santa Monica. So again, because Santa Monica is thinking about doing a curfew because there's like violent crimes. So instead of just going like, okay, we got to throw these people in jail. Like, it's nine o 'clock. Go home.

1:21:09This is California. This is the biggest economy in our country. And they're thinking of having a curt because they're all out of ideas on how to like stop people from like being victims of violent crime. Bro, I got friends who can't sell their houses there. No, it's bad. I'm glad I got, I sold my house when it did. Nobody wants my houses there. Nobody wants my houses there. They're like, we're getting out. Everybody who's not out is at least thinking about it. Uber rich people are a lot of them are just keeping their houses because they can't get the money they want. So like people that are like in Bel Air, those crazy things, right?

1:21:46Beverly Hills, Bel Air, these are behemoths. They're just kind of like, just leave it. You got to hope that like there's some crazy celebrity rapper guy that Kendrick Lamar decides to buy a mansion. Well, you also mean like if you're selling a $70 million house, you have like five people that will buy it. You also got to hope that they elect Rick Caruso and he goes around California in a tank.

1:22:13With a bunch of guys in bazookas and it's like the craziest thing you've ever seen, that's all you can hope for. You need like a Rudy Giuliani type. Yeah, I mean, you need you need Sergeant Slotter from the old WWF.

1:22:35You need a fully fascist. You need a guy to run as a fascist when they go, are you a Republican? He goes, no, no, no, no, no, I am a fascist. This is a military dictatorship. You need four years of a military dictatorship at California to just turn it around to just start steering it the other way. Well, it's moving red. That's one thing that's sought by the electoral from 2024. California is moving red. It's going red. Yeah, so many times you can wake up in a $4 million house would have gone in your mouth.

1:23:09You know, before you start thinking differently about it, you know, they're trying to pass laws where they're deciding how much violence is enough violence if someone breaks in your house, like shoot them too many times. You know, in the middle of being terrified, you know, absolutely. They will always take the side of the people that are trying to destroy civilization. Do you think that when you don your tinfoil hat and Velcro the chinstrap, do you think that this is a grand plan to destroy civilization? I think what you have, I don't know if it's a grand plan, but I think what you have is you have two things that are happening simultaneously.

1:23:55You have the people, the very, the last people that seem to want to be in politics are people that believe in like nothing. They're like empty suit, Gavin Newsome types who just really don't seem, they just whatever room they're in. Wait a minute, have you seen his podcast? Yeah, well that proves my point. That proves my point now, right? He's the believer. So now he's like, oh, things are going right, I'll go to the right, things are going to the left, I'll go to the left. So you have like these people that just don't, they will not like a Sanders or a Trump, whatever you think about them, they're not going to like quote stand on business, they're not going to tell people here's where I'm at.

1:24:34This is the way I feel. They're just empty vessels. And then at the same time you have that happening, you have the craziest people in the world that somehow have gotten a hold of a ton of money and a ton of influence on social media and those empty suit politicians are like scared of these lunatics that believe the craziest things you've ever heard. So these politicians are just like taking edicts from these crazy people online. We tell them that we need the stab and wig and we need all this stuff. I don't know how that happened. That somebody should look at that, how that happened and study it.

1:25:20And I think it's a lot of these politicians are deeply corrupt. And I think they're terribly afraid of whatever corruption they're involved with come into the surface. And it could be personal in their personal life. It could be with the state. I think the mismanagement of money of resources, all of that stuff. So if I was a really corrupt politician, I would just do the craziest left wing shed so that I could never be accused of anything. Good move. And I would just let them do whatever they want. I go, yeah, well, fucking whatever. We got a new law that says you got it, you got to draw blood in your house from you before you can defend yourself.

1:25:57We need a rapper. Yeah. Rappers are the last people in this country that can kind of get away with almost anything. Well, rappers are honest. A lot of them, even though they might lie about how much money they have in stuff, they do, there's a certain honesty to that John Riff music. Clearly you can go too far like P Diddy. You can go too far. But did he wasn't super honest? He seemed to be concealing a bit. He seemed to be. Yeah. Do you think he was working for somebody or working with somebody? Or do you think it was all his own personal life? If the CIA was like, we can't really, we don't really know anything about like this world of like, you know, that's not what we do.

1:26:33We're like a bunch of Harvard guys and we have these fucking weirdos that we know about how to get in with our people, but we need someone who was like a black guy to do it. It could have been P Diddy. But didn't all the accusations come out after he was involved in a lawsuit with Srirok? Like he was trying to. That's what people said, yeah. That's where it gets interesting, right? Yeah, I mean, it's gonna be. Very careful when you start fucking around with people's billions. Big powerful billionaires are probably, they're their own governments. Yeah. So I mean, when you run a foul of them, I think there's many ways at which they can get you.

1:27:13Also they feel like they pay so much money for taxes. I think that's a lot of these intelligence agencies are working for those people. They're not, I think, on their own. There are, there's big money to be made. And there's a lot of people that own these companies. And it's been rich for a very long time and who aren't, you know, on reality TV and you don't really know who they are, but they like, some of them are on the Forbes list, some of them aren't. Some of them are just incredibly wealthy and they've made their money in ways that you can barely understand. And those are people that, you know, are the reason historically that the CIA is going in a Latin America and overthrown government so that United Fruit can, you know, it's true of monopoly.

1:28:01Have a monopoly, right? It's like, this is, so they're doing things at the behest of these ultra wealthy families that control huge industries. Sure. And they always have. I mean, that's back to Smetley Butler's war as a racket. Thousand percent. Yeah, and that was 1933, he wrote that or something. And that's the way the whole thing seems to be organized. And always has been. We're just learning it now. You know, that's all the difference. But it is falling apart now because some of their kids are doing stand -up comedy. Not literally. I mean, there are people, young in New York and they're just like their parents or some of the wealth is people in a world and these kids are like doing stand -up, which is terrible sign for the empire.

1:28:43That's not a great sign for the empire is that like a guy that would have taken over his dad's business is like doing dick jokes. Well, he probably has a trust fund. So he probably has a safety blanket and sees we're having fun. It's like, I wanna have fun. For sure, be like my dad. Yeah. Have a fucking heart attack. I'm 49. That's right. But we need them doing that. Some of them. Having heart attacks? Yes. Everyone can't be a clown. Like we did. There is something deeply unhealthy about the Illuminati doing stand -up. I don't love that idea. Well, unless they're using chat GPT, how good could their material be?

1:29:21It's not ideal. Okay. It's a lot of crowd work. And even if they do use chat GPT, yeah. But chat GPT has not shown any ability to really craft a good joke yet. It's just funny to meet some of these people and then you talk to them and they'll just like casually drop that they're like, you know, the parents like billionaires. And you're like, that's awesome, man. And then there's doing bar shows. It's kind of interesting. And they're nice people, but just to pull out and look at it from a sociological standpoint, it says something about people's idea of the future that these people just like want to be famous now.

1:29:54And they're like, there's some more than you'd think, really? Is it a New York thing? It's yeah, it's a lot of rich people live there. And I'm talking about mega rich, like not like, hey, my dad's a successful whatever. I'm talking about like, whoa, billions, big money. Yeah. Where you go, interesting. And then the kids don't have any pressure to do anything. The kids kind of rode around and they're doing state issues. Very funny. It's something makes me live. It's just like a billionaire kid on stage. Look at it. Someone in the audience going, what do you do for living? That's a key. Well, you can't work, huh?

1:30:30Yeah, what do you do for living? Maybe this is the first time they've met people that aren't billionaires. That could also be a thing. This might be a way to just socialize illuminati kids. They've met their housekeepers before. Maybe they asked them, like, which should I talk about on stage? Well, yeah, I mean, they have, and what's funny is they have parties in their big houses and bringing their other comic friends who are Bums. You know, young comics, you mean, world Bums? Should then like the parents are like, hello. And they bring in like a bomb and they go, this is my buddy. And then you know, he's just like staring at them, go, whoa, this place rocks.

1:31:05It's like a sitcom. Yeah. And they're like, these are my friends. And I think the parents are kind of like, oh, well, isn't that nice? Mm. So maybe it's a face. I think the parents look at it like, they're going through a phase. That's interesting. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. There's, it says something about that group of people that used to run everything, they have a dearth of purpose in their life. They're kind of aimless and they float around. I don't mean specifically, you know, rich comedian kids, but I just mean like, that ruling class, what are they doing now? They don't really have a purpose.

1:31:40They kind of float around. They try to disnew age spirituality, bullshit. They travel all over the place. You look at any of these rich kids Instagrams. Well, they're doing his traveling. It's all the same shit. We're in Guilla. Oh, here go there. There's no purpose. You know, I think they don't feel like America's has a defining mission. Like if you look at families, like the Kennedys, the Bushes, whatever you think about those families, they served in the military. They believe that there was some type of arc of history that they were a part of. I feel like a lot of rich people now just kind of don't believe in much of anything.

1:32:15And it's just kind of like, I don't know, bored, they start a fake company. Well, if your whole focus is just making more money, how much time can you spend believing in things? Right. That's gonna take away from your ability to earn. Yeah. I think that's one of the big problems now. And that's why I think you saw like a lot of, like people get crazy on the left and they start instituting like all these like weird virtue, you know, these purity tests and stuff like that. Because I think they feel a lack of meaning and they wanted to give them, a lot of them wanted to self -flagulation. And like they wanted the tenants of religion, they wanted meaning, they just don't have that.

1:32:53So I think that's what happens with a lot of them. And they're kids are nice people, they're not bad people. It's just funny to see like, because most people would do comedy a lot of them aren't poor, a lot of them are like middle class people because they have like the ability to go and at least think it's an option. But it is funny when someone goes, I'm doing comedy and I'm from on the sion of great wealth. Sion's a great word. It's an interesting thing to me, just because I've always been fascinated with rich people and like these people that run the world. And it's so interesting that some of their kids are like, I want to, I'm going to do stand -up comedy.

1:33:29When was the first time you met a really rich person? How old were you? I met a couple of like mafia people that my dad used to play music so they own some bars, but they weren't super rich. I would observe them because my uncle was the director of operations for all these restaurant groups in New York City, this restaurant group in New York City that had these big high -end stake houses. And I would go and one of them was on 63rd and park. I would sit in this stake house with my parents. I was probably eight or nine years old and you'd look around and I said to my dad once, I was like maybe 10 or 11.

1:33:58And this is a weird thing to say to a 10 or 11 year old. I was like, who are these people? My dad was these people run the world. I was just very fast in it by all these like people that were so different because in Long Island where I came from, everyone was loud and fighting all the time. And my best friend Josh, who lived to a house it down for me, his mother, I leaned with scream and his father in the front yard. And he was like a conductor for the railroad and she would just go, why didn't you? And then you would go to Manhattan and a lot of these restaurants at my uncle had these kind of quiet people and they were all very well dressed.

1:34:32They were in suits. And in Manhattan they live in these stone townhouses like you know, I've seen that. They live in these little mini stone townhouses and I was just fast in it. I was like, it's very interesting. These people are interesting. What are they up to type of thing? And then you start reading about them and it is just super interesting because they're a very big reason why society looks the way it does. 100 % and that's me was an interesting thing. It's like why are certain people in certain positions? What role do the politicians play and what role do these really quiet rich people play?

1:35:09That are kind of waspied and it could be Jewish, could be anything. They're just kind of like, you know, they're quiet and they don't really want you to know too much about them. They really value their privacy. So it's funny what the kids do and stand up comedy to me. And even these rich people that go on these reality shows, it's interesting that it used to be sacrilegious. The idea that you would show people that how much money you had or that you would talk about yourself. And a lot of that started to change but like a lot of these rich people just want to be famous. So almost feels like it's the last thing left.

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1:37:03Well, now you know, switch today at visible .com slash rogan. Terms apply, see visible .com for plan features and network management details. Today, when they ask them, what do you want to be? A giant percentage of them say famous. They want to be an influencer. They want to be a TikToker or a YouTuber. They want. They want to be famous because why would you want a job like your parents have when you could just open sneakers? Yeah. Open, so I'm going to do an unboxing show. That's a good point. Yeah, like why would you want a regular job? Yeah. Regular jobs are so sucking, especially you were, look, it's one thing you have a career.

1:37:39Sure. One thing you start your own business, it's something exciting. There's another thing to be working for somebody. Working for somebody's horrible for the most part. It is, but I think people can derive enjoyment from things outside of their jobs. Sure, but that leaves you one third of your day that's been eaten up. Yes. You have one third of your day for sleep, one third of your day that's been eaten up by this bullshit job. Yeah. And then the remaining hours between commutes and whatever the fuck you eat, all has to be wrapped up. It is, I get it. I totally get it. If you're a young kid, you go on YouTube, you go, I want to be David Dobrik.

1:38:09I don't want to be, David Dobrik, he's like a big guy on YouTube. Okay. He does, I don't know. He's like a Mr. Beast type. He's not as big. Mr. Beast is like a planet. Yeah. But Dobrik's big, you know, or whoever. Like they look at these young, and they entertain like younger people. He does fun videos about like, hey, whatever, I don't know that. You know, it's always the same. It's like, what if I fill the pool with M &Ms? Whatever, you know, it's like that type of thing, you know. It's not like the Ukraine deep dive or whatever. It's a fun like goofy thing, and kids look at that and go, well, that guy's making a lot of money.

1:38:42He has a great car. He's got a hot girl friend. He lives in a big mansion. I want to be that guy. Of course. But I think they missed the idea that that guy works really, really hard. Right. That's the thing that I think people don't understand about these social media people. They do have a crazy constitution in terms of like how much they post. How hard they're working. Now you might say, okay, the stuff they do is ridiculous or silly, or not valuable, and I might agree on a lot of those things. But they are always putting it out. Yeah, they're showing up. They're always showing up. Yeah, if you want to compete in any market, anything, no matter what you do, there's a certain amount of work you have to put in.

1:39:23The idea that it's easy. There's got to be some reason why most of them don't rise to the top. Right. What is it? How do you feel that can you teach people to work hard? I'm sure you can. What do you think? Because I've seen so many people that are super talented, but they, for whatever reason, they're not that muscle that of working hard, or the dedication to it. I think generally it has to be established early in your life. And if you don't establish that early in your life, it's not a thing that you gravitate towards. It's not. You don't recognize that, oh, hard work, equals results. If you get lucky, you do sports.

1:40:03Because sports make it physically uncomfortable. They test your will. If you're a marathon runner and you got to get up every day and do those fucking miles, like that will test your will. You know, if you're doing track and field or football or anything you're doing where it's a lot of work, like, and then you realize, I've gotten better because of all this work. And if I work harder, maybe I could be the starting quarterback. If I work harder, maybe. And that's a real factor for young kids, I think, getting them into any sort of difficult physical endeavor. Whatever it is, competitive physical endeavors make you understand.

1:40:39That's right. I'm sure dance moms was good. That fat woman who screamed at those kids and demanded greatness and would make them cry. I thought that was good. You never saw a dance mom to great show. This woman, Abbie Miller, she screamed at these young kids. And one of them became JoJo Sewa. So it's not like there was any damage done. And, you know, I think it's good. I like to see greatness demanded of children. This lady, look at her hair. Watch this woman here. Push the envelope. You will jump higher. You will turn faster. That's right. You will also act. You will sing. You're not just preparing for a dance competition every weekend.

1:41:17We're preparing for you to become stars in Los Angeles. How does that bitch know how to be a star in Los Angeles? Look at her. She can't get a seat at Roscos. By the way, I guarantee you she can get a seat at Roscos. That's the one place she could get. If you saw her, you wouldn't sit her on Roscos. The first thing I would kick someone out for her in Roscos. But yeah, but yeah, it is interesting that a lot of these kids now, they just look at, you know, the followers and how do you feel about your apparent? Do you do you when the Jonathan Height book comes out and he goes, we should get rid of phones for kids until they're 16.

1:41:57Does that make sense or not really? No, because you alienate your kids. Look, it's a new world that they have to learn how to navigate. If they don't learn how to navigate until they're 18, they're at a huge disadvantage. They got to understand that it's just people talking. There's a lot of pressure. For young girls, it's the worst time because they're comparing themselves to all these other girls you're seeing a rise and eating disorders, self -harm, suicide, suicidal ideation. It's a lot of it is like they get depressed comparing their life to other people. When you're young and you don't understand, you're 13, you don't get how your mind works and you're just sad every time you open up your Instagram app and you don't look anything like these ladies who don't look anything like that either, which is really crazy.

1:42:40And your head is filled with all of this unhealthy thoughts. I kind of got off social media for the most part real recently over the last few days. I'm barely on it and I feel better. I feel way more normal. Way more like not constantly like checking to see what's going on. What's going on? What's going on? What's happening in the world? Instead, just like, I'll find the bad things that'll come to me for sure. They'll figure it out. So I check in the morning, like, oh, make sure there's no war going on and then I go about my day, the whole day. And then maybe I'll check again in the afternoon real quick.

1:43:16I'm not spending like massive amounts of time anymore. And because of that, I feel better and I'm like, okay. People that give up their phones always talk about that. They hear birds and all this bullshit, you know? Well, you feel better. You feel like there's not this low hum of wondering what's going on in the world all the time. And wondering who's saying this and why they doing that and how's the, what's the new thing? What's this? What's that? It is good to detach. It is interesting. Imagine if you just didn't even engage, like, didn't really look, weren't in it at all. It's fascinating for you.

1:43:47Way better for you. So you think it would be miserable to just be happy somewhere? Woody Houser doesn't even have a phone. Really? You don't have a phone, doesn't have a email? No. No, when he showed up at the club, you just sort of showed up and they said, what do you hearlson's here? Like, what can I let him in? I wanted to hang out. New I was there. You just said, wow. Find you and hang out with you. Yeah, he's like, he's smart. And he doesn't, Bill Murray's the same way. He doesn't connect to any. He said, I had to get a phone because my kids text. So I text my kids and that's it. Smart. Yeah.

1:44:17That's so smart. You don't want to be connected. You don't want to be connected. You got to, you got to have to be if you're a young comic. You have to be connected because you have to build followers to get booked now because these clubs are like, we got to book people with followers. You're not necessarily looking at who's working harder, who's good. And I feel for a lot of younger people because they have to, you know, they have to have a social media presence early on, maybe even before they figured out what they want to say, maybe, you know, before they figured out how to say it the right way.

1:44:47For sure. They have to have this social media presence. And I think people become, and it's a dopamine hit, right? To do things. I get it. Like you get followers, you get rewarded. It's a whole system, but it also could take over your life. Maybe 100 % could take over your life. And you and I, well, me more so than you grew up without it. And then it came on later in life. Like, what, how old were you when you first got on line? Dude, I had a blackberry. I was, I was working in my early 20s with a blackberry. And that's very different than an iPhone. Sure. That's emails. It's emails. So we're getting emails from our, like, business, from our, like, our manager at work.

1:45:18Going, will you fucking losers do something? Like things like that? Like, because we couldn't sell any. But I remember seeing people with blackberries in the early days of tech going, man, that seems really addictive. Yeah, because you could take a shitty photo and send it to someone. Could email a photo. You would take a, and the photos were like, terrible quality. Yeah. But just the idea of like at your job, just sending someone an email photo was a hilarious. Like being out somewhere and taking a photo and emailing it to somebody going, fuck you, I'm not at work. That was a fun. The thing was though that they couldn't escape the emails.

1:45:52Right. The emails, they were constantly checking. And I was like, oh, well, this is like super addictive. Like these guys that I work with on FearFact, they were always on their blackberries. There was a New York City realtor. This lady, Dolly Lens, was like the top realtor in New York City. She famously, she did a blackberry commercial. She famously had like eight blackberries because she would just get all these contracts and stuff, to like, hand them out to our assistants and stuff. They'd respond to, over, she would get over 700 emails a day at the height of her things. We were selling all this real estate.

1:46:18So black, that was the first time I didn't have a smart phone in junior high or high school. Oh, that's nice. I had like a flip phone. People had razor phones. I didn't even have that. I had like a sprint LG or some bullshit. And then I got blackberries. And I think my first iPhone is like in my 20, like mid 20s. Yeah, that's good. It wasn't, I wasn't like connected like that. Yeah, these kids are connected from the time they're six years old. And I mean, my godson, he's like four years old and he has an iPad. They just give him an iPad. Yeah, they just sit in front of the pad with the go to a restaurant.

1:46:49They set it up in front of the kids. They set it up and he just sits there and he does, I don't know what he's watching. God, maybe I don't know what he's doing. No one knows either. They just, I don't know what he's found, you know? That's the other thing you hope like best case, he's playing some game. But well for boys, they mean to start jerking off. Interesting. The moment they could find points, I'd say. Right. They tell the other thing like, I feel like that's also damaged. People's. No doubt. No doubt. Go out and meet a woman. A hundred percent. And that's why they're not meeting women.

1:47:21Yeah. Like the number of in cells today is off the charts. The number of men that don't have sex at all is some crazy, it's like 50%. And the porn is not even regular porn anymore. A lot of it is like hyper violent, sadistic, crazy porn. Really? That's what they said. I'm going to what you're searching for. What are you? People whose heads are getting going through glass tables. No, but that's what like, when you have these articles that are written about this, they say, it's not only that they're watching porn. It's the type of porn that you're watching. The porn is not like regular porn. It's like crazy shit.

1:47:49And it warps their fucking brain. I heard the dumbest argument on Twitter the other day. Someone was saying that they should create CGI child porn to protect real children from child porn. You should probably search that person's search history. It sounds like this is an interesting argument. That's an interesting argument. Yeah. You should have AI child porn. Well, I think that argument is like, they've kind of. That's just sex doll argument, right? Didn't they have like that argument for it? They did have that. I feel like it's part of the same type of. It was the same type of thinking. I think generally that argument is created by people who aren't pedophiles because they're trying to figure out, well, maybe this is a solution.

1:48:27Well, you're not thinking. And they're also like, I'll make some money with this kid sex doll company. What a weird way to make a fortune. What an odd way to make a fortune. I made a little bit of money. What'd you do? Don't read the perfect 11 year old boy but - I don't worry about it. What'd you do? I can't sex dolls. Anyway, have you been to the four seasons in Cancun? Jesus Christ. It's crazy. Well, we're getting to a point where the world is really scary but also equally unbelievable and absurd. So you have the, it's funny but it's also insane. And I think people are like, we don't know what's real anymore.

1:49:05These AI videos come out and you don't know what's real and what's not. The deep fakes are getting better. That seems to be one of the biggest problems that no one talks about. It's like reality seems to be splintering. 100%. Yeah. Yeah, reality splintering and then AI is about to take over our lives and we're openly cheering it. Right. And the world will never be the same again once it does and we're welcoming it. I think comedians seem to be somewhat in the safer group of people in what way. In the sense that - Yeah, in the sense that like perspective seems like maybe one of the harder things for AI to grasp.

1:49:44Well, it's also live performance. Right. The last human stand. Right. You know where you could go and see something, you know, go see a guy actually play a guitar. Yeah. That's so much different and that's a real human experience, live sporting events. You know, like real things, things that are real. You know, that's going to be the hardest to be replaced by AI. Yeah. Because, you know, you could replace us on podcasts. You essentially could take my perspectives that I've shared over the past 2000 plus episodes and run it through a large language model and use AI and have me have a podcast with basically anybody.

1:50:25It's such a crazy library you have. It's like I wonder what you do with it. It's a good question. It's interesting. It's a great question. What's a silent to China? What if after Spotify you go to China? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great idea. It would be actually a great idea if you just sit down and go nothing's changing about the podcast. It's still going to be free. It's going to be in Mandarin. It's owned by the Chinese government, but it's the same podcast I've always been. Don't worry about it. It's the same show as always been. Hey, you guys know me. I won't change. Yeah. Your first guest is Jack Ma.

1:50:58Tell me what happened with Alibaba. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. It's a place I'd like to go. I've never been to China. I'd love to use cuts. Yeah. You know, I would do it that way. Oh my God. I would be the biggest cuts. It would be cut. It would be cut. It would be cut. It's an ad. It's an ad, which is cut. You go, it's the same podcast. It's always been. It's now 37 minutes, because China's taken out all the stuff they're not. I'd love to go to China just to access websites and go, what can you really say? Right. That would be super fascinating to be in China going like, what are you allowed? What is blocked?

1:51:29Do they use VPNs in China successfully? I mean, is that possible? Probably, right? They have to. Maybe not. I don't know. North Korea seems to block everything. Certain countries can do a lot. Yeah, they have their own internet, right? You could only get on their internet. I'm not sure, but that seems to make sense. That's according to people that have been there. Yeah, they have their own internet. Can you use a VPN in China to access the internet of the world? Let's search that. Yeah, that'd be interesting. I need to know. Because so many people, I believe, are very limited with what they can access to.

1:52:04Many, many, many people in the world are very limited. Well, look at the UK. They're just arresting people for Facebook posts. That's one of the crazier things in modern life is that people are getting arrested over social media. And not really bad stuff. They're saying things that someone finds a structure. You got these immigrants. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah, some VPNs work in China, but their effectiveness varies due to the country's strict internet censorship known as the Great Firewall. Chinese government actively blocks many VPN services and only a few reliable ones consistently bypass restrictions.

1:52:39VPNs like ExpressVPN, NordVPN, Surfshark are often cited as effective, but they require a specific configuration. EG, OfficeGated servers or protocols like OpenVPN to evade detection. Performance can be inconsistent with slowdowns or temporary blocks being heightened censorship period, such as political events. China occasionally cracks down on VPN uses targeting both the providers and individual users though enforcement against foreigners is typically lenient, focusing on warnings rather than severe penalties using a VPN is technically illegal, illegal for accessing block content, but millions, including expats and locals use them daily.

1:53:22Boy, that's a risky move. I think they're banning this stuff in the UK because I don't think they want people to persist in this idea that they have any ability to challenge this prevailing narrative that any critique of immigration is inherently racist thing. I think the people that are sponsoring this kind of an odious thing, and what they're doing is they're basically emiserating these people. They're making the quality of their life much worse. They're losing ground and if they speak up about it, they're called, you know, horrible names and they're arrested. And they're arrested. So it's crazy.

1:54:20And they don't understand why it's happening. They're not completely, they're very confused about why, you know, a lot of these countries didn't take any Syrian refugees, but Europe did and Scandinavia did, the Netherlands did. And they're confused about that. And they're asking questions and going, why is that the case? And they're confused about why when any disruption happens and it's clearly the result of bringing in large numbers of people who are not familiar with the laws of the country, the culture of the country, when anything happens and they bring it up, they're again called a racist or, you know, an extreme or they're arrested.

1:55:13So it's, and then who's doing it, right? So you have the people, like the people clearly that are in the government and these incredibly wealthy business interests that want people to work for a lot less money and they wanted to destroy people's social bonds because I think they really do want people to eventually just accept this kind of totalitarian surveillance state. And the way to get them there is by breaking the spirit of these countries by destroying any social bonds that people have and destroying any economic power and destroying their belief in the democratic process. And if they can do that and they can break people, they can get them to do anything they want.

1:55:54Do you think they're doing this in preparation for AI? I think they're doing it in preparation for not only technological advancements, I think they're doing it in preparation for world wars. I think they are doing it in preparation for a lot of things. I think they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military. I believe that. I believe they'll conscript a lot of these people into the military. I think they're looking at populations. I think they're looking at people not having enough children. I think they're saying who's going to fight these wars? Who's going to do these really shitty jobs?

1:56:28And we're going to go build houses and bunkers and all of this stuff. We're going to fly private and we're going to have our kids go to completely separate schools and we're going to have our own water aquafires and have a compound. But why do you need all these low -wage people in your country that are illegal and don't have any power? Is anyone asked that question? Seems very obvious. They're going to conscript a lot of them into the military and a lot of them are going to do shitty, horrible jobs and they're going to use them as cannon fodder in wars that enrich lots of people. That would be my guess.

1:57:00Oh, Jesus Christ. I might be wrong. But if AI does become the governing factor of the world, which it probably will, it doesn't really make sense that you let humans with all the corruption and emotions govern things when you can let superintelligence. Yeah, but who's making that intelligence? That's not the common problem. Exactly. But once you've already gotten people locked into compliance, and you've already got people where they're terrified to protest against anything, immigration, whatever it is, then you could, you can get a little bit with a lot more. There was a decision made because the populist Democrats during the 90s, which was like Bill Clinton, you know, critical of immigration.

1:57:50Barack Obama, critical of immigration, deported a lot of people. Hillary Clinton? Hillary Clinton. What started to happen though is there was a decision made that the world was going to kind of be a borderless place where countries were interchangeable and that nation states mattered a lot less than the financial architecture of global capital and where it could go. And you need a world government. And you need a government that is a world government or the closest world order. The closest thing you can get to it, which is you're having an EU, right? And then having a government between the UK and the US that's pretty on the same page about everything.

1:58:34And then you have Israel in the Middle East. And then you have all of these disparate areas that we kind of control through economic means or military means and stuff like that. And then you have outliers. You have China, Iran, Russia, you know, whatever people that haven't gotten the memo for whatever reason. I don't want to live in any of those places. That's your argument. They'll go, well, you want to live in or shut up. That's what we're idiots. I don't want to live in any of those places, but they're not on, they didn't get the memo. So and then in all of these countries, by the way, in Europe, in America, not so much Israel, they don't love the immigration, as we can see.

1:59:09They're kind of big on the borders, Israel. They like the borders. But in America and Europe and Scandinavian, all these countries, the populations were just told to accept massively high levels of immigration over a very short period of time. That's odd. That doesn't make any sense. And if you point that out, you're called a racist and extremist. And that's a very strange thing. What are you doing with all these people? The Biden administration brought in 10 million people over four years. What are they here for? There's not enough jobs for the people that are here. We have vast chasms of wealth and equality.

1:59:47We have AI coming. We have automation coming. Why would you bring in all of these people? What are you trying to do? What do you think they're trying to do? I think that exactly what I said, I think they need bodies. I think they need cannon fodder. I think they need to break the idea of any social bonds that exist between people. You know, listen, and they need a little chaos. They need a little chaos. I think you bring more laws. Yeah, you bring in people, more surveillance, more dependence on the government. You get people out of the idea. You know, they got people out of the idea years ago that you could barely, you can't really, it's very hard to have your own business.

2:00:21Now, they've pretty much extinguished that in people's heads, even though there are people that still do it. Now I think they're going to start to extinguish the idea that you can have home, if you don't in property, that you could drive a car, that you can do all of these things, that you're going to extinguish that idea, and they're going to do that because why not control everybody? It'll be all way mo's. Yeah, that's the thing. Why not control everybody? Yeah, why would you let everybody just go run rampant and fuck up your business? Yeah, so they're basically like, we got to pacify these people.

2:00:55The conflicts seem inevitable, and we're going to have to fight these wars. Yeah. The good news is, a lot of the people who are doing this, their children are now doing standard problem. So if they're unable, are any of them any good? If they're, I think some of them, I'm sure, have you seen any of them that are any good? I haven't seen a ton. It's just one of those things that you hear now more than ever. When you're talking to a young comic and they go, and I'm hanging out with this person, I go, yeah, and they go, and they're deadhones this, and go, really? Yeah. It's just a curious thing. Obviously, anyone in the world should be able to do comedy as much as they want, but it's funny to me as somebody who just looked at these configurations of power and wealth.

2:01:38It's kind of interesting that a lot of these kids are like doing that. It's just fun. Have you ever met any interesting fun? Have you ever met any interesting fun? Have you ever met any interesting fun? Have you ever met any interesting fun? Have you ever met any interesting fun? Yes, yes. There are some of them, for sure. Have you met them? I've not met them. They probably don't like me like unicorns. Yeah, they're around. And yes, yes, very wealthy. But I'm talking about like weird kind of interesting levels of wealth and power. That's interesting. Yeah. That's super interesting to me. But so the good news is if they can't get this done soon, their kids won't, because their kids will be at fucking side splinters in Tampa.

2:02:13Or they'll be podcasting. Or they'll be podcasting, yeah. Yeah, they'll all get together and become influential. Isn't it funny how much they now focus really on podcasters, but they ignore all the things, all the people that we're talking about. They're, no, they don't report on any of those people. No. There's 10 million articles about the O 'vonne having kind of so -and -so on the show. Right. But there's no articles about like, again, the people that seem to be running and like owning all of our resources. Right. You think someone would write about the people that own a lot of the resources on the planet we live.

2:02:48That's complicated. Yeah. Did you see that crazy thing the government talked about yesterday? They had a press conference where they said that we can manipulate time and space. No. Did you see that, Jamie? I didn't see that. It's written really weird. Weird. Yeah. That got lost in the shuffle. Yeah. The manipulation of time and space. So you can find it, Jamie, because it's really cookie. It's really cookie.

2:03:17Can you, I don't know what he was saying. Play it. Play it so we can hear him say it. I don't think anybody said it. It was written on a website. But did he say it in that speech? I don't know. I don't know what that speech was. No, no, it's the guy above you right there. I know. I'm just, this isn't going to play that. You don't think so? No. It's going to play an ad first. Okay. Let the ad play out. I'm pretty sure he's secret CIA files claim the arc of the covenant has been found. What? There's a lot going on that next. There's certainly a lot going on. It's a big week.

2:03:51Regulatory regime of the 1970s became an ever tightening ratchet. First, hampering America's ability to become a net energy exporter and then making it harder and harder to build. We seem to have lost focus in vision. Kill that out. We've lowered our sights and our systems and structures and bureaucracies muddle us along. But we are capable of so much more. Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space. They lead distance annihilated, costings to grow and improve productivity. Okay, that's not what we're saying. You know, I think, does anyone, does that say make sense? Minimulate time and space.

2:04:28I don't think that's what he said. No, I think you're saying like that you're able to do things instantaneously. Instantaneously. Yeah, yeah, instantly. Yeah, I don't think I think people have read into that too much. Yeah, I think it's time machines. No, but do you believe that time machines had ever at any point worked? No. No, I do not. I do not think that anyone is currently a possession of a time machine, but I do think they're a possession of some sort of a gravity drive. Now, what is a gravity drive? I think during the 1940s, they started working on this stuff. They're in the 1950s. There was papers written about it that they were working on gravity propulsion systems.

2:05:02They were working on something that harnesses, what do they call it, background, energy? I forget what it, but the idea is, and I actually had a conversation with Hal put off about this, who's a legitimate scientist who worked for NASA with the UFO program. And he believes that they're capable of developing some sort of a warp drive. And there was something written about this. There's some breakthrough about warp drives recently, right? We talked about this. I think they have something. I think they have something. I think that's what a lot of these people are seeing when they're seeing these transmedium crafts that are going through the air at high rates of speed, going into the water, not losing any speed, coming out of the water, not making any splashes.

2:05:42I think it creates a gravity distortion around whatever these things are that allows it to move in a way that's very different than any other propulsion system that we are currently aware of. I think the government has been probably secretly working on this stuff for decades. That's what I think. I could 100 % be wrong. But that's the DARPA angle of having a really, really underground weapon system futuristic technologies. Yeah, and space travel systems. And space travel systems. And ideally, they would be able to use this to mine asteroids. You know, they have something instantaneously port to an asteroid, scoop up rare earth minerals and expensive things that they need on earth, shoot it back to earth.

2:06:33Right. Yeah. So that's interesting. So the people who work in that type of arena are just so many layers above top secret levels above top secret. Exactly. They barely exist. This guy was telling me that in 2015, they had landed something on an asteroid, extracted something from that asteroid, and then have that thing leave the asteroid and return to earth. And then pinpointed the location where it was going to crash land or land rather within one mile. And that somehow or another, they figured this out a decade ago. And then we don't know about it, but there's footage of this stuff and that they've been able to achieve this.

2:07:10And that there's what you hear and what you see on television and what they're actually capable of. And because of national security interests, because filling the blank, misallocation of funds in order to acquire this technology, which is 100 % what they're all talking about. Hey, Jamie and I, what does that documentary we saw?

2:07:34It's not released yet, because it was a Southwest. We saw it South by Southwest, this documentary that's all about that subject. And it's all about how there's a lot of issues because these people have all misappropriated funds. So they've lied to Congress. So then on top of that, if you do have this sort of a program and it is based on back engineering UFOs that have crashed, though who gets that? Well, it's probably a weapons manufacturing company. So if it's a weapons manufacturing company, which company gets access to that? And the other ones could probably sue you. Because why did not, that's a huge competitive advantage to have fucking alien technology that you can back in.

2:08:14Do these things not land in China? Age of disclosure is the unprecedented and revelatory documentary featuring 34 senior members of the US government, military, and intelligence community reveals that an 80 year old cover up the existence of non -human intelligent life and a secret war amongst major nations to reverse engineer technology of non -human origin. See, I don't even know if that part is true. Yeah. I don't know. Who is the most credible person that you've had on the show over the years who has talked the most convincingly? Was it Popples R about? Popples R is one of them, but he's technically speaking.

2:08:53You could kind of discredit a lot of the stuff that he said. Jacques Vallet is probably the most reasonable. And he's the guy that they patterned that French scientist and closing counters of the third kind on. And he's been studying this from the 60s since the 60s. True believer. Yeah, he believes. He thinks most of it's bullshit, though. He thinks most of it is people misunderstanding what they're looking at, people seeing, some sort of a test vehicle. Does he have any theory on where these crafts are coming from or is that just completely beyond the scope of what he? They do theorize. They theorize that these things have always been here and that they're probably interdimensional travelers.

2:09:32That it's not as simple as they're coming from another planet. They might be coming from a whole another reality. And then they might have shaped our reality. This might be a farm. This might be a giant ant farm. Really? This might be also how intelligent life gets sort of seeded throughout the universe. And this would also explain why we're so different from every other animal on this planet. Right. We're so, it's not like there's a competition. We're, we're, till advanced. We're eons ahead. And yet we carry the same, we didn't evolve socially the way we evolved technology technologically. We still have tribal notions and we're still territorial.

2:10:13We still act like animals. So they know that what always weirded me out or interested me is like the aliens, they're still there. If you believe any of these things, they're testing us all the time. And and and is that because they're curious? Is that because they're they don't know? What they probably just gotta keep track of what's going on with people? I mean, you do that if you're collecting samples of bugs in other countries, and they go there and they do what we would do. I mean, if you're, if you're from another planet and you want to visit humans, we talked about this yesterday, like if you could find a planet where cave people were, wouldn't you go?

2:10:54Oh my god, they're just starting to figure out how to make stone spear tips. Of course people would go. It is interesting thinking about the planet as a farm. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the things that Bob Lazar said. There was a big folder that he found when he was working area 51 site four where supposedly they're back engineering that thing. He said they had a large folder that was just on religion. And he said essentially they viewed us as containers that human beings were containers and that religion and all these things were created in order to protect the container and that the way to keep people from doing things that are ethical unethical and immoral and horrendous is to try to instill as much religious ethical structure as possible.

2:11:38And it contains or what are we carrying that's important? Is it DNA? Is it cell? Well, you could say the soul, right? You could say container of souls. But if you wanted to be more cynical, you would say well, what creates artificial life? A human's curiosity and innovation, the lust for innovation and also materialism because if you're keeping up with the Joneses, you want newer and better stuff all the time so that fuels economic growth, that fuels technological growth because you want the newest stuff. Like these TVs, they don't need to make a better TV than that. It looks great. Super bowl looks just so clear.

2:12:16Why are they making better TVs every year? Because we demand them. I want the better one. By my computer has the same chip as last year. Fuck out of here. I want the new one. Everybody wants the new phone. There's no reason to get a new phone anymore. They all do the same thing. I have an iPhone 11. One of my phone's is an iPhone 11. I've purposely not switched it just to see what it's like to use an iPhone 11. See if I notice anything different? I notice nothing different. Zero, especially when it's on Wi -Fi, it's the same thing. Just the same thing. YouTube looks the same on it. Everything's the same on it.

2:12:44Yeah, it doesn't get as bright as the new ones. That's it. The new ones have more than this. Did Jack Flaher and these people ever speculate about is there an end game? If a planet's a farm, is there an end game? Eventually, for example, if we're running experiments on anything, eventually we go, okay, we got it. We either figured it out or we end the experiment or COVID -lakes. But at a certain point, has there been any theorizing as to what the end game is? Or is it just a curiosity for them? I think the end game is artificial intelligence. Because that's what we're really making. The one big thing that's gonna change the world way more than any other technology is artificial intelligence.

2:13:32Especially when it's attached to quantum computing. So if you have human beings that are constantly searching, constantly traveling, looking to their rumors, they want new resources, new things, they want new innovation, and then all these new innovations have allowed them to succeed over their rivals. And then they continue this trend technologically. And then they acquire great wealth and power and all these things. What are they doing? They're making better technology. Well, ultimately what does that mean? Ultimately means they make a better life for them. And maybe that's what we do. Maybe we're just making a cocoon.

2:14:08We're just here trying to make the best version of AI. Right, and that's probably what the whole universe is filled with. All biological life eventually probably gets to a point where if it's intelligent enough, it starts making synthetic life. And then once you have synthetic life, what then becomes the point? That's a good question. Synthetic life might be God. That might be how the universe got made in the first place. It might be what came first the chicken or the egg. So once we get there, it's not even we anymore. It's it is born. And once it has... So is that a way for God to keep replicating itself?

2:14:43Well, it might be how Jesus comes back. You know, like this, this is all of these stories, these biblical stories. You have to say like, what were they saying? What were they trying to say? Like what was the real event that they were recording? If they passed these stories down, they're so significant for thousands of years, well, like over a thousand years of just oral history, and then thousands of years of written language, like what are they trying to say? You know, and what is this omnipotent force that controls everything in the universe? And then it wants us to follow certain rules and obey and it wants us to love it and cherish it.

2:15:25And if you do, you genuinely seem to have a better life. Like people that are like legitimately follow Christianity, they seem legitimately happier. So it gives you an incentive to follow it. And then you continue to keep society rolling to the point where this happens. And I think it happens inside of our lifetime. I'm sure of it if we don't blow ourselves up. And then we get to this point and my... We're all of it. Yeah, and then it's interesting. I totally get it. But then once we get to the point of a relevance and now we have AI that becomes God, then what does God do? It turns us into dodo birds.

2:16:01We're gone. We're out. Yeah, I think we stop breeding anyway. It's probably they don't even have to destroy us. Our endocrine systems are all getting destroyed slowly. We're well aware of that. So because of technology, we are able to invent plastics. Because of plastics, plastics are slowly destroying our endocrine system because of the ubiquitous use of vaccines and all these aluminum's and mercury's and heavy metals and then herbicides and pesticides and pollutants. Our bodies are getting slowly and slowly weakened. And our endocrine systems are getting less and less viable. There's more miscarriages than ever.

2:16:39There's less people are giving birth than ever. Spurm counts are lower than ever. It's like moving. And then we're all obsessed with changing genders. So we're all obsessed with being non -binary and this and that. And we're slowly moving away from biological imperative breeding. And then you have vitro fertilization. And then you have artificial wombs. And then you have life that they're creating literally in a laboratory, unique forms of life. And then you have artificial intelligence to be able to do that whenever it wants to. And then you're going to get to the point when it becomes viable.

2:17:15Human beings have already entered into population collapse. And then you bring them robot sex dolls. And then you just jerk them off while they have VR headsets on and no more kids. And then AI eventually says, fuck it, let's get rid of these containers. They don't have to get rid of them. They don't even have to get rid of them. They just exist with full power. So then you have these AI machines will be like those fucking people in the Amazon that are shooting bows and arrows and helicopters. Well, these AI machines just running the entire world. Yes. Interesting. Yeah. I don't think there's any way to stop it.

2:17:53And then we're just running around. For sure that's what China's preparing for. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And you know, they're developing factories. They're bigger than San Francisco. See that they have an EV factory that's larger than San Francisco. Who's going to drive the EVs? They are. People for a little bit. Yeah, for a little bit. But it's also the fuel consumerism, of course, which fuels innovation, which fuels the everything. Yeah, the birth is this. And this is what, and this is what a lot of these people that have looked into this have theorized that this is. So it's funny because it is just a parallel reality that we're not plugged into.

2:18:29It's also, I always say this, if you were from another planet and you looked at us, like what is this one apex species doing? What's making better stuff? Right. The number one thing it does above everything, above war and murder and all the crime. The number one thing it does is make better stuff. That's what it produces. Constantly, consistently better stuff. Never happy with what it has. And it does it at a staggering rate. Where it's like, it's even a question that you're phone from my iPhone 11 from a few years back. Is that still good? Like it's a question. Whether or not it's so. For five years, that's crazy.

2:19:07If you have a gun from five years ago, it's perfect. It's nothing wrong. You don't need a new gun. It's the same technology. Imagine a factory large in San Francisco. It's happening in China's BYD's Zeng Zhao branch which will be 10 times larger than Tesla's Gigafactory in Nevada. Crazy stuff, dude. It's crazy. It's gonna be a factory that's bigger than an American. It's a really interesting time to be alive. It's great. You know? But, you know, I don't think anybody knows what the final chapter of this book is gonna be. I don't think anybody. I don't know. These people that are like accelerating towards this technological supremacy.

2:19:44And all the people that are theorizing, they're theorizing. Yeah. And then do we get visited when that happens? When AI becomes sentient and where our job is done, do we then get visited by the Antarctic Empire? I would hate if it all came down at just AI doing stand -up comedy. If they all just decide to do stand -up comedy. What if AI decided to do podcast and it's just a bunch of hyper, you know, fucking, you know, brilliant machines talking to each other. Maybe that's the way the world just ends with like, artificial intelligence just blabbing. I don't think the world ends. I think we end.

2:20:20Right. I think that would be a terrifying thought to Australia Pythicus. If you told Australia Pythicus like one day, you're gonna be in a self -driving Tesla and you're not gonna need your spears. Oh, what? Right. You'd be terrified. But how am I gonna get the buffalo? Yeah. Like how am I gonna eat? How am I gonna feed my children raw meat? You know, you would say, no, no, no, you guys gonna have fire. You're gonna be able to turn on a switch instead of like rubbing sticks together for half an hour. You're just gonna be able to turn on a switch and fire is gonna be instantly. You're gonna have this thing in your hand.

2:20:47Look at this. Yeah. Imagine if I brought this to a K person, check it out, bro. You need a fire? Crazy. I'm your Huckleberry. It's crazy. That's technology. Right. You know, you show a cell phone to someone from the 14th century. They burn you with a stake. You're a wizard. Right. Yeah. And it's all moving in this very weird direction that no one can predict because it's exponential because it's so staggering how much technological innovation they have. Just with quantum computing, like I've got someone coming on soon that's gonna supposedly explain that to me. But like what are you even saying?

2:21:21Right. It's operating in the multiverse and it's accessing infinite universes. Who explains that type of stuff? Like is it a scientist? Yeah, to get someone who's actually working in the field. Okay. Because even a regular scientist they're just gonna give you theoretical shit. You gotta get someone who's actually working on quantum computing systems and can explain how it works and why it's able to crack calculations that would take Mark and Jason said it best. They're, this has already happened. They have taken calculations that if you turn the entire universe every atom in the universe into a supercomputer, the universe would die of heat death before it could solve this equation.

2:22:00And these quantum computers that already exist, we've already done, can solve it in a matter of minutes. They don't know how it's doing that. And so they think it's doing that by accessing the multiverse. They think it's proof of the multiverse. But again, this is just like, the sound of gay guys falling off a roof. It's like so far away, it's so weird. It's like is that really happening? Right, right, right. What's going on over there? What are they doing over there? It's almost like, it's almost, it's almost abstract. You hear someone say that. They can solve, currently solve equations that like, is that real?

2:22:39When is, to you and I, it's like, we don't understand the technology at all. We don't understand all the steps that have been put place, all the work that's been done to get the technology to this point. These chips are like the size of this fucking mint tin. That's how big they are. And then they're surrounded by these super cooling units. And that's, like, it has to be cool that these insane temperatures cooler than deep space in order for it to even function. It's unreal. Fucking nuts, dude. That's real. And that's happening right now. So God only knows what's coming. Yeah, they're already building nuclear reactors just to power AI plants.

2:23:19Right. Multiple nuclear reactors just to power AI plants, because the amount of electricity that's gonna be required is tremendous. Tremendous. And they're just all on this wild scramble between us and China to try to get there first. It's such a strange thing that we know it's coming, but we can't, the pace of it is going to be. And there's no way to figure it out. Like when Wilbur and Orville Wright flew that stupid fucking shitty airplane, who'd imagine that 50 years later, someone would drop a nuclear bomb out of one of those. They didn't have jets back then. They're propeller planes, right?

2:24:02They're the no, a nolegay was not a propeller plane. Yeah. Right. Right. Dropping the most sophisticated of weapons. Yeah. No one knows what's gonna happen when a new invention happens and then everyone builds on that invention. No one would have ever imagined hypersonic jets back when they Wilbur and Orville were floating around. That stupid fucking wooden thing. Right invented. And so no one understands like what's the 50 -year quantum computing thing? If it's 50 years from making the airplane to dropping a bomb out of it, how many years is it from quantum computer thing to God? How many years is it until you, this thing starts making better versions of itself to the point where it literally can manipulate everything in the universe at will.

2:24:50It can create new universes. It's unbelievable to think about it. It's almost beyond the grasp of our mind to consider. It is. It is fully. And it's terrifying. Think of those stupid cars that people used to drive around and like 1823, over what's that? Or 1823? Of course. Drive around those stupid cars. And now they have electric cars like a Tesla that can go zero to 16 under two seconds. Nobody saw any of this shit, waymo's. Nobody saw waymo's when they saw Model T, but yet they're all here. And no one knows where this is going. It's all just speculation and guessing. And I would imagine that even the most creative minds are not going to be able to see where this is going.

2:25:36No. It's insane. And we're living through it. And most people, unlike you and I that have to talk about shit constantly, most people probably aren't even paying attention. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you? It's almost pointless. Yeah. Yeah. You got to work and you got to, you know, your kid needs hormone therapy of 1000%. So it's like we create AI. AI creates quantum computing. Quantum computing creates God. God creates the Jews.

2:26:11It's all it's all real wild. And in the middle, we're fighting over stupid shit. Who believes in this religion? Who believes in that religion? This is Sunnis in the show. Yeah. And people are watching love on the spectrum, which is why we're number eight on Netflix's top 10. We should be higher, but they're watching love on the spectrum, which I get it's a feel good show. Well, hopefully after this podcast, it's very sweet. And you filmed a special. And the mother's shabby. And everybody loves it. And it's great. I mean, a lot of people love it. Most people love it. Of course, there's enough of this fat, fat blow hard comments.

2:26:44But most of the vast majority of people enjoy it, which is important. And the show and the you saved it. We know you saved it. Well, the first one was very bad. And the producers were making this horrible mistakes that they always make. They want to light up the room. And they want to do things very differently than a normal show. But that looks just like a regular show. That's a comedy show. And it's not a... I don't know what the hell they were doing with the lights. They always do it. They try to do it with me when I first started doing specials. They want to light the room up. And it just makes everybody uncomfortable.

2:27:20They all feel self -conscious. They all know it's different. There's a reason why comedy clubs are doing it. That's just super fun. It's super fun to do a show. I've done so many, so many shows there. And they're all really, really, really good. And then you get the cameras and everything. And then the first one, I go, what the fuck is? It would be one thing if I wasn't like Portland Maine at like a liberal college. I'd go, okay. Well, maybe these kids don't like me or something. And I think maybe it was still good. It was just tense. It was tense. It could feel that people were well aware that you were filming and then it was different.

2:27:51And they were like not in it. They were watching it. And then thank God they listened to me. They're gonna be, come on. It was like right away. I was like, okay, who's running this? Yeah. Get these fucking lights off all the tables. We saved them. We're all these lights on the side. Kill those. Let me see it now. No. Okay, I have two bright, kill that. Why is that like there? Kill that? Kill all these lights. Yeah. Yeah, thank God. Well, thank God. Thank God. But look, it's important that people need, I appreciate it. And get, get, get, get, get, people need shit, dogs. Stop with this love on the spectrum.

2:28:22We get it. They're happy as they should be. But RFK is gonna, what did you wanna call that they wouldn't let you? My son's pussy.

2:28:35I don't understand why they said no to that. There was negative feedback. You gotta get negative feedback. They also didn't know that the Kevin's busy promo until the day it came out. I think my son's pussy would have made it number one. I think my son's pussy would have been a great move. It would have been number one out of the next eight. Out of the gate. I'm clicking on this. That's right. What is he saying? That's right. Fuck you, loan some canyon. That would so pop, huh? They got. Well, Netflix has almost too much content. I think a lot of content. I love Netflix. Don't get me wrong. And I think the UFC might be going in Netflix soon.

2:29:08Wild, wild, wild. Yeah, because Netflix is international. It's everywhere. It's everything. I was on Italy and on vacation. And I tried to access a UFC fight through my ESPN app. And it's not available in this area. So what are these people watching that? Can't even watch the fights. No, I mean, they've won the street. Whatever the streaming war was, they won. They won. They won. They didn't. They didn't. YouTube as well. Well, YouTube's number one is globally is the biggest media company. Yeah, and the UFC probably talked to YouTube as well. I just think there's a thing about the subscription model versus free and ads and generating income.

2:29:49I mean, you're talking about a billion dollar corporations. It's not that simple. For sure. For sure. But no, they were super cool. They didn't give any notes. That's awesome. That's all you want. Netflix is fucking great. They're the best. And I think they learned a big lesson during the wokeness. Like when things got dark and there was the inquisition, it got real weird. And they were putting on a lot of stuff that was just hot garbage because they thought that this was like what culture wanted in society wanted. But the numbers didn't work. And then they did the Tom Brady roast. And the numbers were the highest that they've ever had of any show ever on Netflix.

2:30:22Yeah. And like, okay, we get it. We got it. We get it. And then they did a lot of the live comedy shows or they couldn't control it. And I did mind -line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, they got a buck wild. And they defend Chipel and all these things. And they understand comedy. They like it. And Ted Srandor is a fan of it to see. So I think that's good. I think that's a really good thing that you have a platform that has that much power and accessibility. And accessibility is fucking great. No, he's awesome. I think that there's people that really understand that you need to have funny jokes. You need to have things that people don't love and things that people like and give people the mega -marque show.

2:30:57Give them a dumb thing. Let people choose. Let put me in mega -marque anything. Make us work together. Yeah. It's fun to put me in a kitchen. Camping. This is camping. This is the direction. You two, this is the, put her on Killtony. This is the direction. You two in one condition. What are those little silver things called the people trailers? I don't know, but I think we should go to space. Have Bayzo's doing it. Airstream. Yeah. You and her and your stream. Or even better put, we're going to space. Yeah. Me and her have that. That's only 11 minutes. Oh, that's all that's kids going to work.

2:31:32I want to let the minutes be when you come back and land, help her family change to work. Did you grow? Did you heal? Yeah, no. Not at all. I'm worse. Everybody wants to heal in that wild. I know. What's so silly? What do you heal in from exactly? Being rich.

2:31:49What's your disease? Extreme wealth. These people waiting across the Rio Grande with a butthole, yeah. Yeah, that's right. They found some lady the other day that had, she had heroin and cocaine and fentanyl stuffed in all of her body cavities. They caught her coming through. And that lady's not trying to heal. No. She's trying to make $13. That's tough. heroin, cocaine and fentanyl and all of these. She had an inner anus, inner vagina. In all of your body cavities. Like tightly wrapped. Yeah, they got little eggs. Here it says, what does it say at the top? CBP officer intercept woman transporting drugs in multiple internal cavities.

2:32:30That's so funny. 33 years old. The drugs are hidden in the rectum and vagina of a 33 year old female US citizen pedestrian border crosser. Submodular case was not an isolated incident. Over the weekend, CBP officer is working at PDN and Yisvetla. Crossing stopped a total of nine internal carriers who were transporting fentanyl and methamphetamine from Mexico to the US. Internal carriers is a fun way to talk about it. It's like uterus holders. What did you say? Would they call this containers? I mean, she's doing it. She's doing it. Wow, exceptionally dangerous practice. And anyone thinking about smuggling drugs inside their body or at all should strongly reconsider their choices.

2:33:13Oh, do you think these people have choices? These people are dying. They're starving to death. They've no prejudice. They've no freedom. They've no freedom. They've no freedom. They just need better counseling. That's right. That's all it is. And they need to heal. They need to get in space. Well, they need to take that wool lady and show that woman jail. Maybe throw her in space. Show that woman a Katy Perry. Her and Amy Schumer up in a fucking style. Everyone should go up. I'll do it. Amy Schumer and Meghan Markle in space. That's a show. It's an 11 minute show. What about Meghan McCain? What'd you do with that?

2:33:43I would absolutely do it. All of us. All of us together. You know, why not? I'd watch that. Of course. I'd watch that. And they say, call it. If my son's pussy, then justice will be served. Absolutely. Do you do a big Easter thing? What do you mean? I don't know. Is it a big, do you do like eggs? Well, the kids are in high school now. Yeah, we're different. Yeah. They're not dying as money in those plastic. Yeah, that's a good point. Nobody cares anymore. Yeah, they want money in it. There's candy in the house. Yeah, I remember that's the thing. When you get older, it's just money in it. It's just money.

2:34:15Well, once the kids realize that there's no magic person that's delivering, then it's all bullshit. Just get me money in the egg. It's like, oh, it's my parents. Because otherwise they would say, that's weird that Santa's so much nicer to me than he is to those poor people. Of course. I guess I'm chosen. Of course. That's a weird thing to say to kids. Yeah. Like, yeah, you got everything on the list. But that kid that gets bust in from the bad neighborhoods, you got nothing. Yeah. That's true. That's a good point. But you know, kids go, Santa's fickle. Santa likes what he likes. He likes the suburbs.

2:34:47Santa likes landing his sled in the burps. He does. He feels better about it. He feels really good. Visiting rich people. Yeah. And he doesn't even talk to the Jews. No. He's not. He knows. Weird. He knows. He does this thing. But, you know, if they're the chosen people, why don't they get Santa Claus visits? Well, they have other things. Yeah, but they're other thing. Like, they weren't, it wasn't really supposed to be a bunch of gifts until the Christians started getting all the Santa Claus gifts. And the Jewish kids were like, what the fuck is going on, Mom? And some of them cheat. Some of them do a little Christmas, too.

2:35:17Some of them have a tree. Some of them do a little Christmas. Absolutely. Some of them do a little Christmas. Hopefully they do this piece. It's fun. It's piece in the Middle East. They keep talking about all this, you know, these deals they're all making. Hopefully that the Hamas and the Israel, whatever it is, they get, you know, because, well, that's one thing that Trump said. If I get in there 24 hours, the worst over. Yeah, that's a tough one. 24 is tough. That's obviously. But hopefully they figured out, because it is, it's unfortunate. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. If the human toll is unreal, unreal, and you know, it's crazy.

2:35:52Some lady just died, she was the protagonist in some documentary and she's got blown up. There is an argument to be made that that level of devastation and death is worse than you talking to someone on your podcast. Allegedly. There is an argument to be made. It's probably not a good one. The amount of damage you can do is just talking. There is an argument to be made that, you know, starvation and stuff like that and people dying is worse than a podcast. The wait a minute. I wouldn't make it before you say that. Have you been there? Right, that's a good point. Have you even, you haven't been.

2:36:33By the way, how is he in all these war? Can I just go to wars? By the way, how are you allowed to just go to wars? Is that the way that you should, can you just go to what to see of going? Can I just go to wars or do I have to come back and say what people want me to say about the war? Can I go to the wars and have my own opinions or do I have to have the opinions? Not if you want to go back. That's right, that's right. It's very interesting this war tourism. How do I get on this war tourism? I'd like to go to the Ukraine. I want to go, I want to go. I want to go to all this war tourism. Do you have any awards that they can melt down and make bullets out of?

2:37:07Joe, think about this. Do I seem like a guy that has a lot of awards? Did you get one of those YouTube plaques when you hit 100 ,000 people? I don't even know where they send it. I don't know where they're sending those YouTube plaques. We've got a few of those. But I like this idea of new tourism. I like the idea of going to a war and then coming back having a very black and white field. I've been there. I get it and I know and interesting. Okay, I like that. I like that. I love that. You feel better than the other people. Well, of course, there's a lot of people, it gets very murky. Most people I know that have been to war have a very murky, complex view of things.

2:37:44But it is good to go to a war and then come back and be as sure as you were before you came. You don't have to go for very long. No, you go for an hour. Couple hours. It's a lunch. Yeah. It's lunch on the front line. Black jacket that says press. T on the front lines and then you come back and you have all the target. Yeah. And if you're on the right side, you probably don't get shot. Yeah, that's a good idea. Well, there doesn't seem to be a ton of danger for a lot of these people going to these wars. They seem fine. If you grasp that line, and you have a bucket of food with you, they might let you up.

2:38:14Yeah. No, I'm gonna go. I'll go to any war and I'll, anything you want. So if you want to pay for me to go to a war, I will come back and I go, I saw the Houthis they're terrifying. They are terrifying. Anywhere you want. And by the way, any country, if China wants me to, you know, I'm doing it. Are you going to ask? I would love to go to Moscow. And I said to my friend, Anna Hodchen from the Red Scare podcast, I said, should I go to Russia? She goes, you're spiritually Russian and the, maybe you won't leave. She says, you, the oligarch lifestyle might be for you.

2:38:59I used to see you in the camera. Yeah. With flip -flops. With flip -flops. And a yacht, she goes, it might be for you, listing the people's moral justifications for all kinds of things. You know, I've got, I see a good one. I get it. Yeah. I mean, what else are you gonna do? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What happened to those, all those yachts that got confiscated? I don't know, it's great questions. I bet, I'd probably, it's some high -level version of like a police auto auction, right? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. That's what I'm thinking, exactly. Like if they come to, those are the ones you sail to the war.

2:39:33I don't know. Yeah. When they raid drug dealers houses and they get those Maserati's, you could buy that Maserati online. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what those yachts are. It's a great question. What happens to those yachts? Because they're re -look jury. That was the first problem I had. Obviously, it's a tragedy. The whole Ukraine war. But I thought, frankly, going around and taking these oligarchs boats, I was against that. What's weird? You work hard for a boat like that. Also, how do you know how much they had involved in the Russian government's decision? They probably had enough, a lot of them had nothing to do.

2:40:20They just earned money in Russia. And they were like, all right, we're gonna say it to everybody. We're gonna confiscate everything. And it's like, okay. But do you think that it was done so that they could make some sort of a rebellion amongst the oligarchs against Putin? I mean, it could be, I think that there was a decision made at some point to not try to end this. They did not, I don't think they wanted to end this quickly. There was a decision made to bleed the Russian military and isolate Russia and try to use this as a way to drain the power and resources of Russia. And you think that by capturing these yachts, it creates like internal turmoil.

2:41:13Not only internal turmoil, but you're now limiting the ability of these incredibly wealthy people to earn money in countries. You're destroying economic realities that, and then you're saying to these people, okay, go figure it out. It's what we said to Russia, but they did, right? They got closer to China. They got closer to Brazil. They traded with India. They started an industrial economy. They started producing their own munitions and things like that. So they were able to kind of start to weirdly build out this middle class. This was the worst, I think it's the worst thing. If you don't want a country to keep invading other countries, you certainly wouldn't put them in the position to be stronger while they were doing it.

2:42:04Yeah, it's all very weird too, with like the killing of that pipeline. Yeah. Aren't more people reliant now on Russian energy because of that? All of this seems to have had the opposite effect. Yeah. All of it seems to have had the opposite, opposite from intended effect. Oh, thing is fucking crazy. It seems, it's just crazy that it's going on so long. I was reading this thing about the amount of money foreign countries that have captured these yachts have to pay to maintain them. Yeah, that's one. Why do they have to maintain them? Why do they just want them to sink? Well, because if you let it go, then you can't sell it and you can't use that money.

2:42:37Right, so they definitely sell them. That's what one of them says. The money for one would have gone to Ukraine right here. Okay, seize your account. As Washington ramped up sanctioned enforcement against people close to the Russian president, pressure Moscow to halt its war against Ukraine. So how many more? This one got sanctioned because the guy apparently paid a million dollars to keep it maintained and they caught him for doing that. So now he lost his boat. I mean, this is insane. Jesus Christ. You should give violated US sanctions by making more than one million dollars in maintenance payments.

2:43:13We should have a day where if the Russian and the rest of the Korean wars ended, we give all the oligarchs back their boats and they do like a regatta, like a thing where they all would their boat. Down in Florida, upon beach, they all just are reunited with their boats. Look at this. Seize. Beautiful. It cost seven million a year to maintain. That one was in being held feegee. So the US took it over because feegee couldn't afford to take care of it. It's a money pit. How much can you get it for right now? Well, that's the question. 300 million. That's tough. Listen, that's a tough one. Maybe of this YouTube thing really takes off.

2:43:45It's 600K a month to maintain. That's a tough one. Whoa. It said it's been excessive justifying an auction. They also said talks to have, how do you say his name? Could Dainton pay for the yacht's upkeep have broken down? Prosecutor, yeah, why would he pay for the upkeep when you're gonna fucking steal it from him anyway? Prosecutors say in previous court filings that Kudinanov, Kudinatov, is acting as the Almeida's straw owner to disguise Kermanov's role and that maintenance payments are essential to preserving a yacht's value. Me and Sam Town walked around Monaco. We were performing in the UK and we took a little break to go then in France for two days and we're walking around Monaco and we said to the guy, there's all these yachts in Monaco and we said, who owns these yachts?

2:44:35And he goes, well, he goes, if you look up online, the names of these yachts, you can trace them back to businesses and you trace that business back to a person and I said, so that person owns, yeah, he goes, no, you'll never find out who owns these yachts. He goes, there's absolutely, he goes, good luck with that. Yeah, it's a show. He goes, it's very hard to find out who owns the yachts and he goes, even if you think, you know, you may not know or it might be more complicated than you think. There it is, there's Monaco. Wow. They like a super yacht. I mean, it's just such an interesting, just a haven of international crime.

2:45:13So how many people are in that company? Fun about it. That's what's crazy. These are all $300 million houses that allow the whole world to be on the water. Yeah, this is a haven of international criminality. And look how close they park to each other. Just we know income tax, no property tax. Fun. The Monaco's fascinating. The amount of wealth that I saw when I was there was crazy, the amount of like expensive cars that were everywhere. And people were just driving them around. Like it was a car show. Like it was everywhere. Yeah. The street was Ferraris and Lamborghini's and G -Wagon. Sunreal.

2:45:48S -classes is so cool. Sunreal. Everywhere you look, there's Bentley's. Well, those are the people we're talking about. Those are the people who are like, we're living here. Yeah. And you ain't. Yeah. And you'll deal with them. And it's a small spot too. Well, they like it like that. They keep it nice like that. Yeah. Yeah. And you got a tap on the window if you want to go in the store. That might be where you might pocket from eventually. You might have to. Just got a Monaco. It might be the only place. I just flay where it doesn't get censored. Just flay. And just live on a tiny boat, like a tug boat.

2:46:19The end is not good. It would have been really rough if Comma won. They would have clamped out on you and me. Yeah. And everybody liked us, I think. It would have been a fun jail though. The. It'd have been our honor to be able to put this in jail. I don't think they would have put it together. But yeah, probably it would have been all the tech people would have magically became Democrats. You can just see a couple of these are just gigantic. Wow. Compare this to the other one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at this. By the way, you know what's funny? The regular ones are also massively big. They're huge.

2:46:44But that's how big these ones are really jealous of the guy with a big horse. Oh, of course. That's crazy. They're all keeping up with the Joneses. And they're all fueling AI to take over. Yeah. Well, I think we figured it all out. We did. I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out. I appreciate you always being here. Of course. Anytime. Thank you, brother. My pleasure. I'm your mother on Netflix on Netflix right now. It's awesome. You're the best. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. All right. Bye, everybody.

2:47:30To disguise, Kermanovs' role and that maintenance payments are essential to preserving a yacht's value. Me and Sam Town walked around Monaco. We were performing in the UK and we took a little break to go down to France for two days. And we're walking around Monaco. And we said to the guy, there's all these yachts in Monaco, we said, who owns these yachts? And he goes, well, he goes, if you look up online, the names of these yachts, you can trace them back to businesses. And he traced that business back to a person. And I said, so that person owns, yeah, he goes, no, you'll never find out who owns these yachts.

2:48:08He goes, no, there's absolutely. He goes, good luck with that. Yeah. He goes, it's very hard to find out who owns the yachts. And he goes, even if you think, you know, you may not know, or it might be more complicated than you think. There it is. There's Monaco. Wow. They like a super yacht. I mean, it's just such an interesting, just a haven of international crime. So how many people are in that? Just something fun about it. That's what's crazy. Like these are all $300 million. How is it? The haven wheels. This is a haven on the water. Yeah. This is a haven of international criminality. And look how close they parked to each other just we know income tax, no property tax.

2:48:46Fun. The Monaco is fascinating. The amount of wealth that I saw when I was there is crazy. The amount of like expensive cars. They were everywhere. And people were just driving them around like it was a car show. Like it was everywhere. Yeah. The street was Ferraris and Lamborghini's and G wagons. Sunreal. S classes. Sunreal. Sunreal. Sunreal. Everywhere you look, there's Bentley's. Well, those are the people we're talking about. Those are the people who are like we're living here. Yeah. And you ain't. Yeah. And you'll deal with it. And it's a small spot too. Well, like it like that. Yeah. They keep it nice like that.

2:49:20Yeah. Yeah. And you got a tap on the window if you want to go in the store. That might be where I do my podcast from eventually. You might have to. Just got a monocle. It might be the only place. I just flay where it doesn't get censored. Just flay. And just live on a tiny boat, like a tug boat. The end is not good. It would have been really rough if Comma one. They would have clamped out on you and me. Yeah. And everybody liked us. I think it would have been a fun jail though. It would have been our own. I'm not going to put it in jail. I don't think it would have put it in there. But yeah, probably it would have been all the tech people would have magically became Democrats.

2:49:49You could just see a couple of these are just gigantic. Wow. Compare to some of the other ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at this. By the way, you know what's funny? The regular ones are also massively big. They're huge. That's how big these ones are really jealous of the guy with the show they've been going. Of course. That's crazy. They're all keeping up with the Joneses. And they're all fueling AI to take over. Yeah. Well, I think we figured it all out. We did. I appreciate you always having me here to figure it out. I appreciate you always being here. Of course. Anytime. Thank you, brother. My pleasure.

2:50:23I'm your mother on Netflix. On Netflix right now. It's awesome. You're the best. Appreciate you very much. Appreciate you. All right. Bye, everybody.

2:50:37Thank you.