#2317 - Cody Tucker

30:18Like eventually they're right. Like Ted Kaczynski, the unibomber. You know, that guy, his whole thing was that technology was going to overtake the human race. Right. And I think he's right. Yeah, you know, he wasn't necessarily wrong. He was just wrong to be blown people up. Oh, well, he was that's the really fucked up. Did you ever see the Netflix stuff? Did you see the Netflix? documentary when they go over his life. He was a baby when they left him in the crib. Yeah. And he never got touched for like months, which immediately permanent damage. You're screwed. You can't fix that. Yeah. But then you get those wide eyes, you know, or that's until someone's crazy.

30:58He gets in the Harvard LSD studies where they humiliate him while he's on acid. Yeah. Yeah, because he was part of the MK Ultra. Like he had that professor that was like recruiting impressionable, but highly intelligent young men and how crazy is that program? MK Ultra's wild. Wow. That's the, that is one of the most interesting. The CIA in general, let me just like, this is a rabbit hole, just the craziest thing I've ever seen. But like all the Manson stuff, which I'm obsessed with Charles Manson, so all that stuff is. Oh, the Manson stuff's crazy. Is a CIA stuff? It's not even a rabbit hole.

31:31It's like one of them labyrinths that they find in Turkey. Like 2000 people could live underground. You're like, who built this? What the fuck is this? Yeah, like the friends? How long has this been going on? Like the French catacombs, where just the people get lost every day and all that. If you go down to the CIA rabbit hole, you'll find a city like a civilization in like this. And then you have to think, okay, but also Russia has the same sort of operation going for Russia. Right. Right. Every country has them. Yeah, everybody has a CIA KGB. So they have to get rid of the CIA. And then what?

32:07We could take it over completely by Russia and China. It's like, slow down everybody. Yeah. Like there's a nutty AI war going on right in front of your face. You just haven't heard the bombs go off yet. Right. It's happening right now. And if they pulled that off from the University of Zurich, we just kind of creepy. Yeah. That university would like do that pretend to be a, you know, a black guy who's against the Black Lives Matter movement. We've only survived a sexual assault. You're just making it up with AI chatbots. Like this is fucking wild. And just to see how people react. How what the fuck do you think is going to happen?

32:46We're finding somebody who actually is one of those people and then see how people react. If that's what you want to do, like you don't have to pretend to be one. There are sure lots of people who yeah, you can just volunteer and you could have a whole study control group. Yeah, I have the whole thing. Yeah, you don't have to do it anonymously on the internet under false pretenses. Like you wouldn't have to do it. Let's just want to have fun. I mean, I guess that's the, but the problem is anytime you're doing a study with real people, they know they're in a study. Yeah, what's that? There's a law like a, um, where like you can't, that's something about being observed.

33:21Right. Ruins the thing or whatever. Like it's part of like the, I don't know, I suck at science, but I think there's something. Well, I don't even know if that science, I'm just talking about like humans. Like if people know they're being watched as a part of a study, you're behaving completely differently. Yeah, you're going to influence their behavior. Well, it's just like if you get asked a question to be part of a survey, you're not answering that thing accurately. Right. Even if it's anonymous. Right. Just because you know that like your answer is going to be make you look maybe a little bit bad.

33:49You'll, you'll church up your answer a little. Maybe not outright lie, but if it asks you how many drinks do you have a week? You're not dealing with them. You're not counting them up. You're going to have six dates. Sounds about right. Yeah. This uncertainty is why I think we're super vulnerable. Yeah. Because this uncertainty is why we're all going to be very vulnerable. Excuse me. Yeah. Sorry. We're going to be really vulnerable to any sort of electronic bridge that they start using. Like whether it's a wearable or an implant that lets you legitimately read minds, which I think I fucking think is in our lifetime.

34:32God, I hope not. It's so scary, dude, because we'll give it up to know the truth. People will give it up to know the truth. Yeah. I mean, think about what, how much of your data you give just so that you can Google things. Like think about how much how much money they make off of your data and giving out your email address and all the fucking spam texts that you get every day, all the chaos. You gave that up. Yeah. I'm just for free internet. Just for free Google. Yeah, I give it up. I don't give it down. I just give it all everybody does. But imagine like what Google would cost. Like if Google was a pay thing and the only way you could ever know anything about what's going on the world.

35:12You have to search it every search engine cost money. Right. It's like, oh, but instead you get this free value, but wouldn't you rather not pay? Of course. But what if you paid for it and then they couldn't use any of your data ever? And it was a totally like honest relationship and you're not allowed to curate the information either. Yeah. You just have to put out the information as it exists online. Right. Yeah. We gave up privacy. We gave up our data. And we didn't even think about it. We didn't even know it was a thing that we're giving up. And then we're going to give up sentience. We're going to we're going to fucking be connected to the hive mind.

35:50Yeah. I really think so. Yeah, because it's weird like with the you know, online like data privacy. Like you don't really know what it is that you're giving up. It's not like normal privacy. We're picture of your drivers license. You'd say, no, what do you tell them about? No, you can't. Right. But they can get the majority of that information through, you know, they can try, you know, get your address, get your right. They can find out even more information about you through giving up like your your privacy like data privacy. Yeah. But we don't like it. No, we don't have like a list of what they're getting.

36:23I mean, I guess you do if you read that whole thing, but he was reading that like, right. No, but he resets it. Somebody told me there was something that we might have to edit this out of snow. True. But somebody told me there's something fucked up about Google's terms and whatever terms apply there with the thing that you have to agree to that it has something in there that you'll agree to mediation. Mediation. Yeah. Like in case of some sort of a dispute, a legal dispute, you you've agreed to mediation in the so you're not going to sue that. So you can't really yeah, like whenever you get hired at a new job, they have those kinds of like clauses.

37:03Yeah. Yeah. That's that's so if it's true. Yeah. Well, we need to find out what's true. Because somebody was telling telling it to me and I was like, wait, what? That sounds insane. I accept it's required by applicable law. Mediation is voluntary and neither you nor Google are obligated to settle disputes through mediation. What the hell is that man? I don't know the context in which you were told it because this is like for. I said Uber. They said Google. I thought no, no, no. I'm sorry. Uber. Oh, okay, okay. I'm sorry. I was probably mumbled.

37:49Okay, Uber's terms of service include a binding arbitration clause meeting users agree to resolve disputes through arbitration rather than in court. This arbitration is individual and non -consolidated. Meaning you can't join with others in a class action suit. Uber also limits its liability and states that drivers are independent contractors, not employees. If you have a dispute, you could try to resolve it through mediation, but it may ultimately be resolved through arbitration. That's that's wild. Jesus. That's kind of wild. It's like we have our own rules. Yeah. Yeah. Our laws, no, no, forget about the laws of the land.

38:25Now you agree to a legal contract. That's like very sneaky. It's very. Yeah. Because if there's like laws, if we have laws to prevent fraud and laws to prevent negligence, we have those for companies and you're a company like no, we're not, we're not in a company. Yeah. There's people there, they're independent contractors. Right. Right. Right. Oh, you have no liability at all and you make all the money. What a great deal. Who did you pay? Who did you, who did you fucking pay off to get that sweetheart of a deal? Yeah. And also how many people know what arbitration is? Because I'll be honest. I don't know what it is.

38:54I was just kind of going with. Sounds scary. If you got to go through arbitration, I could not. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I just find out. I agree with everything. Well, I think what essentially they're saying that you have to have a conversation with them outside of like a judge and jury ruling. You know what I mean? Like we have to have some sort of mediation. I think that's what they're saying. I could be wrong. Well, if I did the I'm sure that's in your best interest. That's not. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. The thing about Uber is if they're just private contractors, then it becomes like, okay, what is your responsibility to screen these private contractors?

39:31Because some of these people might be psychos and you know, you're a woman and you get in the car with someone who hasn't vetted their psycho. That's where is it based on the moon? The Netherlands. The Netherlands. That would be a good move. You got to start somewhere where the Nazis rolled through with fucking tanks. Yeah, to do that are Luxembourg. Did the Nazis get to Netherlands? I keep talking about Amsterdam. Yeah, that's right. We're not that in the Amsterdam. It could be any convention. That's right. Yeah. The any convention on the international sale of goods shall not apply. Okay, except as well as set force in these terms, these terms shall be exclusively governed and construed in accordance with the laws of the Netherlands, excluding its rules on conflicts of laws, excluding its rules on conflicts of laws.

40:30What does that mean? I don't. That's a weird thing to say. This may as well be Portuguese as foreign. In accordance with the laws of the Netherlands, excluding its rules on conflicts of laws. I have an idea. So, I think it is just being copy and paste this in like Grocker, Chad G. Oh, no. We're going down so many raps. Oh, explain us to the American. Kids use Uber so much man that like a small percentage comparative to the past of kids are getting the driver's licenses. Good. You're probably right. Perfectly fun. The got is Grock your favorite to use? Would you like to use? I have to go. I honestly think you have to test them all when you're asking a question you really want the answer to.

41:14It's very good. It gives you varying responses. I had a Chad G. B. T. Lie to me yesterday four times in a row. Look how quick this is. Let me break this down for a while. There's a wild American audience in plain language. It's insane. This selection of a contract explains, see this is what I'm saying. Like if it's already happened, yeah, if AI has already taken over, we've already agreed by the timing of your book, the synchronicity is real and that maybe the simulation is real. And then if it's going to be simulated, it's not going to be simulated by a bunch of people. It's going to be simulated by artificial intelligence.

41:47No, it's going to be way more mistakes if it was people. Yeah. Dutch law applies. The contract governed by the laws of Netherlands, not US law. This means Dutch legal principles will guide how the contract is interpreted except for conflicts of laws rules, which deal with choosing which countries laws apply. Oh, that's what it is. Also an international treaty called the Vienna Convention, which covers sales of goods, doesn't apply here. So with essentially they're saying like, we go by the Netherlands laws, if you have different laws in the United States, go pound sand. Those don't matter. This is in the Netherlands.

42:21You're a lawsuit here. It also depends on what happened. Like if it's a speed limit thing, you go by the rules of the speed limit. But if it's something about, you know, interpersonal, the driver and the dance and the thing that if you do business in a particular country, you'd have to follow the laws of that country. Doesn't that just you would think? I mean, I'm not even trying to be unreasonable here. Maybe they're better in the Netherlands. Maybe they're more fair. I don't know. It's not even like a value judgment. I don't know. Maybe they are. Maybe they just want the best for their customers.

42:51So you know what? If they really want to sue the fuck out of us and win, really should do it in the Netherlands. Maybe. Is there a hage? The hage is in the Netherlands, right? Is it over the world? Like what do you call it? Crimes against humanity? You're like war crimes is all in the hage? Yeah. I don't know if that means anything. I don't know if it means anything either. But I would imagine if you're doing business in China, you don't allow to say, yeah, but US rules only. We only got to, so if you want to sue us, it's how you go to a fucking sue us in Alabama. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck you. So you right here.

43:23Yeah. Sit your ass down. What are you talking about? Our place. Yeah, you're doing business in China. You get sued in China, motherfucker. You should always no matter what wherever you are, you got to follow those laws. That would, I mean, how is that not? That seems super reasonable. It seems like it shouldn't be able to avoid that by like setting up shop in some fucking dictator ship somewhere, you know, like your homies with some guys at dictator and you're like, bro, you want to make money? Yeah, it's corporate in your country. Let's let's fucking raise some cash. Yeah, it's, it's all very weird.

44:00It's very weird. It's, but the driverless car thing might be even weirder because that's a solution out of it. Like, man, I don't trust these Uber drivers. They're sketchy, man. Good. Get him one of those fucking robot cars. Yeah, get him one of those trying to get you and they're, they're, they have a set up for you. Go, bro, change a plan. This is what I want you to do. I'm going to give you $500. You're going to drive me to Ohio. Do you know what I mean? Like you can do that. Like if the government's after you and you're in a fucking Uber drive and the guy's cool, you go, listen, dude, I'm going to make this worth your while to four hour drive, four hours back.

44:41Yeah, how do you do that to a whammy? You don't, you don't, they get you. They shut the car off. They locked the doors and you're locked into the Uber contract. Yeah. Wamos, partner with Uber. I know because I just, I was going to get in one yesterday. I was like, I haven't been Austin in a long time. Like, you just come down here a lot like in high school, whatever, you know, sneaking the bars and whatnot. And I saw these Wamos like, what the hell is this thing? I've never heard of this. Didn't know this existed. And I see it like driving around. Nobody driving. I'm like, I do not like this at all.

45:14But immediately downloaded the Uber and way my app because I was like, well, let me just get one to take me out to like six street or something. Did you get in? No, no. No, I chickened out. I just don't think. Because what if it just doesn't want to take me like, what is something happens where he's like, you know what I would like to do? Take you down 35 at about 90 miles an hour. Yeah. Wrong lane. You know, my front camera goes out. And I can't see what's in front of me. And I just start plowing into other cars. Yeah. I'm not saying that that's going to happen or wherever we'll have it. I'm sure there's a bunch of backup cameras.

45:43Don't get me wrong. But it just catches me out. Although I do think it's inevitable. Yeah, I looked it up. There's only been one fatality involving one. And it wasn't even there. I thought it was a driverless one where someone rear ended the way Mo like, you know, so I was like, well, they seem pretty safe. Like in terms of like the way they drive to, they drive real slow and steady and they're easy to avoid. I can see taking one like if you're just going around like a neighborhood or something, you know, you just like you're never going above 30 miles an hour. Yeah. Getting on like the interstate of one of these things.

46:13Imagine if you could show these to Tech Gizinski. Get him away from me. I was right. I was right. They're coming to get us back to our man. Yeah. We are we are allowing them to come to get us. We're paying for them. We're psyched. Well, this is cool. I'm guilty of it. I have a Tesla that does it does auto driving. You go, do do do. Yeah. You turn this button on and it fucking stops it. Stopped signs hits its blinkers. Goes around stuff. It's crazy. Do you use it? Very rarely. Okay. It wears me out. But I do sometimes. Yeah. I mean, I've done it like I've driven, I haven't driven me home three or four times.

46:47Just like do do. Just like this is crazy. Just because it's weird. You know, but I'm always my hands are close. You know, I'm never like looking at my phone or anything. I don't know. That's crazy. I would trust that. Like if you do, I'm just sitting in there and like kind of you could take control if you need. But that's the bridge, bro. Yeah. That's the bridge. That's the bridge to transhumanism. I think we all need to stay in our separate. No bridges. I agree. But I think we're going. I think we are the last of these kind of people. And then the people from now on will be like personally like physically integrated with some kind of electronics.

47:23Yeah, I don't like that one bit. There's much of an acoustic top fellow. I can't be. I think there's so much wild genetic stuff going on right now that they're going to change what it means to be a person within our lifetime. Like there's some there was a thing in China. See if you could find this. Do you know what a tardigrade is? Tardigrades are these really weird little almost insect looking things that are unbelievably durable. They're tiny microscopic little fuckers. Yeah, they call them like something bears. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What do they call them? What kind of bears? Water bears.

48:01Yeah. So these little fuckers can survive forever in space for whatever reason. They go into like hibernation in space. They think there's some of them from the Japanese lunar lander that are actually on the moon. They think tardigrades are on the moon and that they're like in a suspended state of animation. And that if you brought them back to the United States, they'd kick back in and be alive again. That's how crazy these little fuckers are weird. So there was this Chinese experiment where they're integrating tardigrade DNA into human DNA. That's a good idea. There's nothing that could ever go wrong with doing that.

48:39But what happens if someone develops like a bullet proof immortal human that lives like literally lives forever unless it gets hit with a meteor like that's not outside of what's possible. No, they developed or they were developing some kind of see if you can find that first for making Google this, but they were trying to develop some sort of bullet proof human skin using spider silk. So they were going to exist like kevlar's butter silk, but your own skin like with gene splicing. I don't like that. The gene splicing and it brings about splice like that movie. I don't know if you ever saw that with ageing.

49:21I did. Oh, that was crazy. Is a great movie, but like just seeing only on like I that's what my mind immediately goes to is him banging this thing with this. That's a really amazing thing. Yeah, that thing was sick. Yeah, it was kind of a goofy movie. Oh, yeah. It was like like, wow, I would really believe that was happening. No, it's Chandler's list or something. Yeah, it was kind of goofy, but it was fun. And it was just very strange, you know, like because you go, okay, I could kind of see that happening. For sure. Yeah, I think so. I mean, this kind of what a lot of that is. I just, what was that crisper?

49:56You remember that thing? What was kind of like that was a talking point for a while? Well, they have crisper to know, which is even more effective, apparently. This is made by an artist. Bulletproof skin is made of goat. No, this isn't it. Goat. No, there was what's that? Lavgrown skin reinforced spider silk and stop bullets, but when you go to what it actually is. Oh, so it's bullshit? It's not bullshit, but it's just, you know, it's someone who's sort of explaining things differently. I mean, I thought there was a study about human skin. That's what I think that they were trying to say. Oh, so it's like a bullshit headline in this story?

50:32Yeah, that was it. And this back from 2018 is when this one. Did you find anything in a tardigrade thing? Yeah. And it had, they were explaining what it did. So there's, um, it's show that there was a clean transfer. New cells function normally. But also demonstrating crease rate of cell growth. They're trying to make them immune to radiation is what the idea was. They're making super people, man. They're making it X -Men. That is so crazy. That is wild. They're going to put, I don't like that. Tartigrade genes into humans. God, that makes me so uncomfortable. They may create super soldiers with what the Jesus.

51:13So, okay, China has already done these genetic experiments on babies that are supposed to, um, inoculate them to HIV, but also somehow increase their intelligence. And the guy got in trouble and they look, so you're bad. You shouldn't have done that research and they paid you to do. And so they put him in jail for like a couple of years, probably golf, and then good fellows. Now he's out. But that happened. And that's just what we know about publicly. Like, why would they tell, if they were like making super soldiers and if they were like, by the time we hear about it, there's probably some mountain in China that has an underground base, just like we have, just like area 51.

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53:58Canyon. You know, because it's all like, you know, the whole music scene has like weird intelligence agents. The little canyon thing is strange. Yeah, yeah, with all those people like Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, but like, yeah, a lot of those are just had like too many connections. And Jamoreson's dad started being a norm. Yes. I mean, that's what the most of the dad was like a serious military man. He was the Navy admiral during the Gulf of Tonkin. Yeah. It's one of those things where it's like, well, you first, you first hear about that one and we go, well, get out of here. No. But then you hear, well, no, like, it's not like these artists didn't exist.

54:34But why did they become famous? Why did they get promoted? Like what was it about? Was it a, do you think it's like a psychology? But because like, take a guy in the Laurel Canyon scene like Hendrix, you can't make a Hendrix accidentally. Well, you can't make a Jim Morrison. Even though his dad was like, there's something about that guy. The way he sang his, just the way it felt when he was on stage. He was a star, man. I don't think you could turn a person who isn't that into that. No, not even close. No, no, you can, you can pump up like a pop idol. You can't really pump up a rock star. Right.

55:12You can make a boy band. Yeah. You can make a boy band. You could, you know, make a Ariana Grande out of it, you know, Clay and send her ass out at there. You can't make Bob Dylan. God, no, you can't do that. Yeah, you can't do that to Jim Morrison. You can do that to like a lot of those, like a actual rock star. Yeah. It's just that's like a flash in the pan. Like it happened. We don't know how it happened. When he kind of musical star, it's like it either, you know, there's no way, I shouldn't say no way, but I don't think the intelligence agencies can like get a guy and train them to be that.

55:47No, you could like take a budding scene and pump it up, but that scene's already there. Like it was already going to exist. Like it already was existing. I mean, there was like the beat next stuff in New York that was already happening way before any of this. So like, and they were just kind of the next generation of that, just the West Coast version. But there's, you know, there's like that's all that was already there. So yeah, if you want to say there's like a conspiracy that they pumped it up and like put more money into like marketing their music to make sure that those artists music got sold more and played on the radio more like kind of a pay all this sort of thing.

56:26That makes sense. Yeah, that could be, I don't know that it happened, but I know it's confusing, right? Because you want to draw conclusions, but then you go to go, okay, you can't invent Janice Joplin. Can't make that in a lab. Like, you know, when she's singing, peace of my heart, you know, like, you just like that is either that's like God just kissed her with this talent. Yeah, you can't like engineer that. I don't think. Yeah, I don't think there's no way. But if they could do that, they could they could manipulate all of reality. Well, they could do that. Then you should probably do another one.

57:00I mean, the amount of times that I've seen like people on TV, they're supposed to be these like massively famous artists. I'm like, I don't know who any of these people are. And I'm like in the age where I should still know who all these people are. Like I'm pretty young, but like, yeah, I don't know who they are. And they all sound horrible. Like, I don't like, like this is the proof of there being some simulation where we're all just like listening to the same. But I wonder if people thought that about every damn genre of music. Like I think they did, but I think there's something particularly lost about this current generation because of social media.

57:35Yeah, because what we're talking about with those chat bots arguing with each other. And we know for sure that happens all over Twitter and Instagram's a lot of body counts. And just I think people are super confused as to like what's like a real thing. Right. What's real? What resonates? Like what feels what feels what's cool and what's not what's what's being promoted and artificially astroturfed and what's just fucking cool or draws people into it. And it's harder to tell now. It's tricky. Well, it also seems like there isn't because like, you know, you go back to let's say like the 60s. And you think like, okay, late 60s is the time of like, you know, Hendrix and like the rolling stones, the Sergeant Pepper, like, this is like the highly influential experimental musicians.

58:22Yeah, cream. Cream was like, you know, hadn't broken up yet. The burger was like 70. But like the number one song in like 1969 or one of them was, you know, sugar sugar by the Archies. It's like one of the most mainstream bubble gum pop songs ever. It's like there was, but those like Hendrix and stuff were still there. Like it was in the zeitgeist. It was still popular. But now it's like those types of people are nowhere to even be found. And it's all just the sugar sugar type things. Interesting. Interesting. You know, I mean, like, there's still a lot of really good bands now. Well, there are.

58:57The thing is like the whole music business is weird because you don't sell anything anymore other than tickets to come see people. But yet, there's still a giant industry that is involved in promoting and taking these artists and, you know, essentially locking them up to these deals. Well, yeah, because you get the ticket money. Yeah, but they get the ticket money now. And that's the thing that the music companies didn't used to get. Exactly. So, so yeah, you still are going to market distribute the way that you would have in the past. But now you're just getting your your slice of cake from a different peak.

59:36You know, you're getting them from a different area than you used to. But you're still pumping them out, you know, pumping them up for the same reason. Ultimately, to make money, it's just you're getting it in a different way. What I'm saying is that now a bunch of people are merging that aren't doing any of that stuff. You got like your title of a creator type dudes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Completely disconnected from that. Yeah, yeah, makes his own music, makes his own he's the creator of his own domain domain. And yes, you don't need all those people. And so you have this weird thing happening now where you have a lot of like astroturf stuff, a lot of stuff that just like thrown out there to try to get people to link it sounds like stuff that people like and it's created.

1:00:15But you still have a lot more opportunity for legit artists to just like Zach Bryan just emerge from like TikTok clips or whatever they want. Yeah, right. You too. Yeah, there's always going to be the ones who come out in like the indie way, you know, like like what Tarantino was for like movies, you know, like come out like I'm doing this all on my own. And like there's always going to be those people. I just think it seems like there's not a lot of those that get to the high through it. Fuck it means something. Yes, like Oliver Anthony. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you want to want to hear his new song?

1:00:52We can't play it on the show. Sure. Yeah, yeah. How about everybody at home will be right back. That's what I'm talking about. Oh my god. Yeah, man. Dude, see, that's that Jesus exists. Right. So in the middle of all this honey honey sugar sugar shit. Yeah, there's still there's still Oliver Anthony. There's still people out there that are right legit. They're legit. There's a bunch, man. There's a lot. There's just a lot of noise. Yes, true. And I think I also just don't try to find things as much. You know what I mean? Like I don't like pursue it the way I probably should because in my head I just have this like bias of like if it came out of the last 20 years, I don't care.

1:01:37Like it's hard to find stuff. You know, it's like I get suggestions from a lot of my friends. That's some of my best songs. Yeah. But also Spotify has a really good, I know I worked for Spotify. But for real, they're their suggestion thing is legit. It's amazing. The algorithms very good. It's legit. It knows like the kind of vibe you're into. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I because I'll look at you know, put in just some like random playlist or like in my head think of like what about when I hear like right now? How about like 70s garage rock? And I'll just put that in. And there's like all this amazing stuff.

1:02:11They don't have like some deep cuts from like the stones. There's like one of my favorite bands and like, you know, just all this other stuff that I've never heard before. But it all came out around that time. Yeah. And there's never like a miss on that whole list of like 200 songs. Yeah. This is incredible. There's some great playlist. Yeah. Well, it's like that's what's interesting too about people curating their own playlist. Like, like there's a bunch of my friends that will give me their playlist. Like Tony gave me one of his playlists the other day. I was like, God damn, this is fucking legit.

1:02:40Yeah. A bunch of cool shit that I never heard before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I make I make playlists all the time. That's one of my favorite things to do is like a hobby is to make playlists for people. I love it. Like if they tell me like, oh, I'm like, I'd like want to know more songs that sound like this. I've got you. I'll make your playlist and send it to you. I love stuff like that for people. Yeah. Yeah. I only have one playlist, but it's like 39 hours long. Oh, that's pretty good. I mean, I'm gonna do really deep. Yeah. It's ridiculous though to try to find songs that I have to use the search bar.

1:03:11Yeah. I can never just scroll down. There's too many of them. I said, I have probably 40 playlists that I've made. Yeah, because I do them by like decades and then I'll do genres. Oh, then decades. Well, I'm just like slightly autistic. I'm not even. Oh, God, I'm 55 56. Like enough to where I can like, you know, I can function. Do you smell math? No, see, see, when it comes to that, I don't have any of that autism. I just have the weird, like I can't handle too many sounds. Oh, interesting. Yeah, no, I can't handle a lot of stimulus and then I make playlist or do jigsaw puzzles. Yeah. Interesting.

1:03:51Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or read 24 seven and look up random bullshit. That's the superpower of it, right? I think so. I mean, I've, yeah, I'm glad I have, you know, I'm really autistic. But if I am, I'm glad I have.

1:04:09I'd diagnose her. But you are a doctor, though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. I mean, as much as, you know, I'm guilty. I've charged myself diagnosed myself with ADHD. Yeah, but you know, but you know, yourself better than anybody else. Yeah. You should be able to self -d� yourself. I don't think necessarily ADHD is even totally real. You know, I think it's one of those things for people that just think differently and they're fucking bored of shit and they can't pay attention to stuff that sucks. Well, there probably is some disorder in it. But to like, because I don't think it's necessarily wrong to say that there is like a thing, but to say that it's like a disorder and that that it's negative and that it needs to be treated is different.

1:04:51Like I don't think ADHD necessarily needs to be treated. It just needs to be like funneled. It's only disorder because we have a very rigid civilization. Exactly. If we, so we don't live in accordance to the way our bodies were designed, our bodies were designed to be hunter -gatherers. That's the reality. That's the reality because it takes so long to become a hunter and gatherer and it took like hundreds of thousands of years for us to be good at it. And we've only been living in civilization for a little tiny little blink of time. Yeah. So our fucking programming is all not to sit still all day, not to stare at a fucking teacher, not to be bored memorizing shit.

1:05:30Our old thing is like, be active, do something, learn, get excited about something. So we have like an entire forgotten group of people that have so much energy and they have all these interests that are not what you're doing them down with all day long. And they could learn in a way better manner, by just like participating in things and yeah, reading stuff as well. But having a teacher that actually is enthusiastic about it where they get you excited about it. Like not having to sit down all day, you're fucking tan, you want to run, you want to play with your friends, right? You want to have fun and you'll sit there and by the end of the day you're like, ah, hate school.

1:06:07Yes. Because it's fucking boring. Yeah, school sucks. Like school ruins, everything. It ruins the natural love of learning that I think most humans have. It's ruined by public by schools because one, you're there way longer than you should be. There's no reason that kids should be in school for eight hours, nine hours sometimes. Why would a eight -year -old need to be in school that long? It's a really good question. Doesn't make any sense. What are they actually, what are you teaching an eight, a ten -year -old in eight hours? Like, they're going to remember. Yeah. And also, I mean like, don't have, you don't have to have recess.

1:06:41You don't have to have all these extra things like you can shorten all this down, make it more streamlined and have kids home. But it's just to prepare people for a nine to five and so many two, you know, parents, there's so many households have both parents working. So it's like, well, it is kind of nice to not have a babysitter. You just send your kid to school and have your kid be a latchkey kid, like I was, yeah. Like I was too. Yeah. That was a normal thing back then. No one thought twice about letting your kids just go outside. Like, all the kids in the neighborhood, we all grew up like that.

1:07:10We all would just go over each other's houses. We'd just come home from school, not just home. You had a key, you know? Yeah, I would just come in and start playing guitar or something. I have a lot of fully functioning. You live with meth labs and you're a kid? Yeah, no shit dude. We're fully functioning, right? Where'd you live? Well East Texas, which don't, you know, don't have to say don't grab any help. Don't have the address. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Right, now they stop on the fuck on. I'm gonna fucking find him. Yeah. Well, they've actually all kind of blown themselves up since then.

1:07:43Funnily how it works. Yeah. It's a nature really has a way to and care of itself, you know. And it's such a crazy decision to make. I'm gonna cook Matt in a trailer. Yeah, one blew up, like the one next to my house blew up not that long ago. Like I was just asleep, I thought I heard a shotgun and looked and there's just fired. I was like, what is this? Oh yeah, I'm imagining a slow mo of the trailer blowing up with that Oliver Anthony song playing the background. Yeah, you wouldn't be far off. Boom. Yeah, it's pretty close. But yeah, mess labs are known. They are known to go up badly. Yeah, I think it was not a neighborhood that you go like ride box around and like play and stuff like that.

1:08:24But because you're cooking meth and you're on meth. So right? And even if you're not on meth, you're in contact with it all the time. So you're probably getting at least a skin high. Well, and they're not using like, you know, high grade equipment. I mean, they're wearing like, you know, some like like cheap gloves maybe. I mean, most of his bare handed, you know, they're like old school hat makers, you know, they would get mercury poisoning. I go crazy. What's really crazy is that we look at that and we say that is so nuts that people take meth. Why would you do that? And yet, what percentage of kids today are on Adderall?

1:08:58Which is the exact same thing, just a slow release, a delayed release meth. What percentage if you had a guess? Oh, I mean, it's probably lower than we think. Cause in my head, I think it's like 40%. But it's probably about 15. If I'm just, if I'm really guessing, like trying to win some money. God, that's a lot of 15 % of all. That's still so many kids. That's crazy. It's more than one out of 10. And that's so crazy. That's just the idea that is so nuts. They're all on meth. Yeah. And that's an ADHD thing, right? They give it to you any of ADHD. Yeah, yeah. You can't ADHD medication when I was a kid.

1:09:34I would run through, I would take my clothes off, ran through the woods. Well, yeah.

1:09:42Well, it's crazy. It just turns kids into a zombie. Like it's so sad. Like I used to work in a pharmacy for a long time and just seeing like how many parents are coming there giving their kid and their kids just like zonked out. They look like they're in one floor of the cookers and ask you know, like, and just like, oh, here's my kid. This like high level amount of, you know, I'm going to riddle in or whatever, five ants, you know, I had it all. Like it's, it is wild. Yeah, it's spooky. It was a party drug for us. It's spooky that you get a doctor to tell you that's cool too. As long as the doctor tells you it's okay.

1:10:18Yeah, he needs that. Oh, great. Look, we got medication for him. We're going to be fine. Little Billy's going to be fine. Because you come home from school from work rather your feet hurt, your fucking sit down. I take a shoes off. The kids fucking sword fighting with his brother in the middle of the living room. Like, hey, you got to stop. You got to listen to me. Hey, you little fucker. You're so tired, Ankhore. You can't get up. I like Medicaid. This little motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's easy to do. And you have a doctor telling you it's okay. So that immediately gives you some reassurance that like, why would a medical professional tell me this is a medical professional?

1:10:50And he gives me my medication. Yeah, he would just allow us to get through the day as well. Exactly. Oh, I mean, it's that great Rolling Stone song. Remember that? Mother's Little Helper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what's called, right? Yeah, it is. It is. Great fucking song. Great. I mean, running for the shelter. Yeah, I think that was the volume days, right? Was that what it was? Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know if they didn't just call it that, but there was like speed and volume. Right. Like an upper and a downer and a, you know, you take the upper to get all your chores done as a housewife, then you take the downer so you didn't kill your kids.

1:11:23They prescribe those to people like candy. Yeah, forever. Well, I think they figured out that volume is like super addictive, right? Yeah, I think they legitimately didn't know back then. Oh, yeah. For sure. Any excuse after that, you're out of your mind like the oxy -continuous, you know, with all that like, oh, for sure, they knew about oxy -continying. They knew that was essentially heroin. I mean, that's one of the great moments in that Peter Berg docu -series on Netflix, where the docu -drama series, where the guy is breaking it down to him. The doctor is breaking down to him. Like you're, when the hot girl comes in, she's pitching that stuff and he's like, you're selling heroin.

1:12:01Yeah. You need a, this is exactly the same thing as heroin. Are you telling my, I should put my patients on heroin? Or what are you doing? Like the, you know, the lone ethical doctor and the fucking shitty little house that he lives at, you know, he's like, he doesn't make the big, big money because he's a good guy. Which is like, unfortunately, not unrealistic. Like, you see that? No, that's how it is. Yeah. Because if you prescribe it, they give you, you know, a $500 gift card to, you know, a steakhouse, they'll, you know, they'll buy you a new car. But, yeah. All that stuff's not. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats.

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1:14:04That's, you know, like with a certain amount of vaccines, if 60 % of your patients or more are vaccinated, you get a larger incentive. So you're like pushing it. Yeah. It's the whole thing is nuts. It's nuts that that's legal. Encentivizing anything medical. Medical isn't, I mean, why are you doing that? Dude, there was a guy that got arrested. I forget how many patients it was, but he was an oncologist and he was giving people chemotherapy that didn't have cancer. Because chemotherapy is very profitable. So this piece of shit was telling people that they had cancer and then giving them fucking chemotherapy.

1:14:42That's that. For just for money. That sucks. There's a special. And it was like a bunch of people. And I think he had some insane excuse when they add, you know that you eat what you kill? You know that that philosophy that they kind of have in medical school, like you have to do surgery. Right. Because that's how you get your money. Yeah. Like I thought you were fixing folks. I didn't think this is all about you making money. That's crazy. And that the fact that they incentivize you to do that. So a pharmaceutical drug company can incentivize you to push their stuff. Yeah, to push their medicine over another medicine, even though their medicine might have worse side effects or maybe not even be the exact right one.

1:15:27Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not a couple pharmaceuticals. What are you on? Effects and I took a clone and put about two hours ago. Well, what a small dose. It actually did absolutely nothing. So maybe it kicks in in five. And we'll find out. I'm laid out. What is the effects or is that an SSR? Yeah, it's a necessary. But when did you start getting on that stuff? Oh, I started taking those probably 2013. Wow. Yeah. I've never noticed a difference. I just keep taking them because I think that's interesting. At some point it's going to work. What? Then I'm built. I mean, you never know. Sometimes there's like a delay in the effectiveness.

1:16:06So have you ever gone off of them just to see like what it feels like? Yeah, because I started, well, whenever I started drinking a lot, I was like, it said you're not supposed to do both. Just take the alcohol. I'll take the press in over the antidepressant. Well, they have to work for sure. Really interesting. Well, that night it worked real well. And then the next day it's like, you know, that's the problem. Yeah, I mean, if my ceiling was stronger, I'd have a new thing up there. But yeah, it's like someone's got to design a better alcohol. Someone's got to design something that first of all, doesn't massively fuck up your motor functions, you know, which is the most dangerous part of alcohol.

1:16:43Yeah, I want that to happen. I like that. I like the whole feeling. You like just stumbling, being hammered, you're like waking up and being like, why it is my knee bleeding? No, that's a great feeling. It's definitely fun to be had. But it's just like it's a new, you're agreeing, just like you're agreeing when you smoke and cigarettes. Like I am giving up some health here for this experience. There's like a quote, I don't know who it is, it's definitely not mine. But like getting drunk is you're just buying happiness from tomorrow. It's a great quote. I mean, it makes sense. It is great. Because that is what you're doing.

1:17:21You're getting twice as happy, but tomorrow you're going to have zero happiness. Yeah. And I was buying like weeks ahead. Yeah. Well, some people just keep that like, like, bird christchurch. He just keeps that party rolling. He never stops. Well, he just knocked out a 5K. Good for him. I got invited to go do that. And I couldn't turn that down fast enough. Like, y 'all know, I'm not going to go run a 5K. Unless someone's chasing me. Bro, jelly roll has lost something insane. I think he's down 140 pounds. I thought it was even more than that, but maybe... Is it more than that? I think. I think I don't want to say it.

1:17:58It's insane amount. He looks so good. He looks different. It looks like a different person. It is wild. That's a lot. I mean... Yes, he 180 is what I thought I had heard. Unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable. I mean, that's unbelievable. That's an adult. You can see if there's a video I think that's on Bert Christchurch's Instagram of Bert with him on stage and Bert is bigger than jelly roll. No, it's not. It's not. Oh, well. But he's right next to him. And jelly roll is almost unrecognizable. Yeah. I mean, he's so much thinner. He looks great and he's committed. He's like fucking all in on this, all in on being healthy.

1:18:38I got to do it. He ran a 5K. Look at that. Yeah, there it was. Boy. Look at Bert. Bert's bigger than him. Look, I'm not lying. No, you're really not. Yeah, that's... Jelly Roll looks like a totally different human being. Yeah, I mean, he looks good. Yeah. He looks great. I mean, that's... Crazy. That's extraordinary. Extraordinary that he's been able to do that. Yeah. In how long? I mean, it hasn't been that long. I mean, I don't think. I think... Yeah, that's... I don't think it's even... His weight loss... He wanted to lose 100 pounds. It says his first goal. Oh, okay. So he passed that goal with 2024.

1:19:20Okay. So he already lost 100 pounds by 2024. So here we are in May of 2025. Next year, he says half marathon. Wow. I mean, he could, why not? Why not? Yeah, if he did 5K, he can do it. 5K is what, three and a half miles? Uh -huh. Yeah. Wow. So I have a marathon's 13 .1 dog or 13, I guess? His weight... His weight goal is to be under 250 pounds. Well, he'll definitely be there. He said to do all the fun stuff in life, he got to be under 250. That's the goal. Sky diving, ride a roller coaster, riding a bull and wrestling an alligator. Oh, don't do a lot of those things. I'll tell you what, you know, the wrestling and alligator thing, I can tell you from first and then you can be any weight and wrestle a fucking alligator.

1:20:06Really? Why not? I mean, I feel like the bigger you are, you're gonna die. Well, I figured the bigger you are, the better it wrestling you are for an alligator. Um, you don't want to be 120 pounds and jump on the back of an alligator. That's true, but you don't even want to be 300 pounds and jump on the back of an alligator, because they roll. Like, their whole thing is rolling. But they wouldn't be able to roll quite as much. If I'm on the back of an alligator, that thing is not budging. Boy, I think you're wrong. I think you're really wrong. I'm really sure you're wrong. I would like to test it.

1:20:36I don't want you to. Well, you seem like a nice guy. I've seen so many videos, especially Crocs when dudes, like, they put their arm in a crock and the crock, so I was like, not to do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, see, Crocadile is different. Crocadile is very vicious. And the alligator is basically just a giant turtle. I mean, you could just smack that thing down. Well, this ain't gonna do anything to you. Yeah. A .E. people. They'll get you. They'll still eat people. No. No, they'll eat a grown adult if they get a hold of you. They'll take you and drag you under a log. It's just they're not as aggressive as Crocs.

1:21:07Crocs actively target people, whereas alligators are like, if you fuck up, there's a fun story. The guy was in a police chase in Florida. The cops are chasing him. It gets to a bridge, jumps out of the car, into the water, lands on an alligator, and just gets mulled right in front of the cops. He gets killed by an alligator right in front of a big and two. It was like a big like again, like the book coming out today. Sometimes the universe is there with a 13 footer. That's why. That's why. Oh no! Oh. Oh. Raps a hold of your head. It starts rolling. Yeah. Have you ever been close to one? Fuck yeah.

1:21:47Third. Yeah, I've snuck up on well. Yeah. Accidentally snuck up on one once. And it is. It's kind of terrifying. Here in the, the, I can't make the sound, but that like, that, you know, that sound they make. Brother dinosaurs. Oh, yeah. They're heartless, soulless, eating machines. Yeah, I was going to take a piss by a tree and just heard that sound. I was like, it was nighttime. So I'm like, oh, I don't, I don't like that that just happened. That's not good. And look around. There's one not like super close, but close enough to get a good look and be like, oh, this is, this is, this is, when I was a kid, I lived in Florida from age 11 to 13.

1:22:22Yeah. We lived in Gainesville, which was what by this place called Lake Alice. And Lake Alice had all kinds of alligators. Right, right, right. And people would go there and feed a marshmallows, chuck marshmallows in the water. And then they eventually told you, hey, stop doing that. It's bad for the alligators. But alligators were like a protected species back then. I'd have been dressing up like an alligator so quick. It's the water -free marshmallow. But it was so weird. It was so weird. Like I lived in San Francisco before that. So you know, you see nothing. And then all of sudden, dinosaurs.

1:22:51Like legit. Dinosaur might think, why, and I remember being a little kid, thinking, why is everybody so goddamn comfortable being around these huge fucking lizards? It is crazy when you go to Florida because I'm pretty close to Cato Lake, which I don't know if you're familiar with Cato Lake, but it's like the largest natural lake in Texas. It looks like you went back in time five million years, 60 million years. Like it's, I think it's scariest looking place on the planet. And they're just filled with alligators. So we would go there as a kid all the time. And yeah, you'd see alligators and you're just like, but nobody cares.

1:23:22Like people are just like out barbecue and like grilling, up against the light. And you know, obviously the meat being around like these algators just come up. Just don't care. Or literally just like, all right. That's so crazy. Yeah. So crazy that people just tolerate dinosaurs. Yeah, I mean, I guess just, you know, they don't do anything to people. Like, unprovoked really. Like as far as I know, I mean. Well, they can. They certainly can. Yeah, for sure. But they're just like, they're so overpopulated now. Yeah. They're all over Florida. They say essentially anybody of water in Florida that's still, there's a potential for an alligator being inside of it.

1:23:57Because they just travel at night and go into a new lake. Yeah. And sit there and wait. They can hold their breath for hours. God. I wouldn't think you don't have to eat for a year. Like what? Like what? What are we doing? Oh, my God. Oh, that is it. Yep. Have you ever heard of alligator gars? Yeah, we have them. Um, uh, yes, so like my family, a lot of them live in Gonzalez on them familiar with that is, but by San Antonio and they go at both fish and for gars. And we used to go fishing for gars like in a spillway. Just fish for these bastards. You can't eat them or throw any. Apparently you can.

1:24:31You could smoke them. That's what I heard. We would just pull them up and then smash their head with a rock. Come root. Yeah. Well, I want to ask what's happening. My point was some guy just caught a world record in Texas. I think it was out of Lakeway. I forget where it was. But it was a seven feet long. See if you can find it. And he caught it on like two pound test or something crazy. No, man, that was a lake trout. Different story. There's got to be bigger ones than that. Then seven feet. I wonder if it was. Jesus. Look at the size of that thing, man. That's so crazy. That is Houston Chronicle.

1:25:05So look at the size of that thing. Oh, my God. That's so big. That's just a hundred and twelve pound alligator gars. Sixteen. And those things, man, look like they're from a different era. Those things look like they're not supposed to exist. Like, that is a goddamn prehistoric creature. Pull up some photos, Jamie, of alligator gars. They also don't attack people. No, no, they don't. Like, very kind of skittish. But my kids found out that they're in lakes now. And they're like, fuck this. Yeah, yeah. I don't buy real. You don't have to take a chance to that thing. Look at their face. Look at that photo.

1:25:41Look at that face, man. That looks like something from a book on dinosaurs, right? Yeah, it's like a sturgeon. Like this huge asturgeon in Alaska, where you're like, oh. From a different time. Yeah. Like a sturgeon looks like it doesn't belong in this time. Look at that thing, man. I don't like that. But even the eyes, it just looks primitive. Like a shit early design, like a 1955 Ford. You know what I mean? It's like, what are you doing back there? Like, that's a shit design. That's a stupid eyeball at the end of the mouth. It looks dumb, right? Make that picture bigger. The one that's big right now.

1:26:14Look at that. Yeah, it's a shit. Look how fucking crazy that is. It's a god. God, it's so crazy. Look at that thing, man. You never, uh, gone. Oh, they only give you a small vert. Isn't that weird? What a weird, even the opening. Oh, there. That's so strange. Wow. But look how bad that design is. That's like, you know what it's like? It's like, you ever see like a dodge charger, like a 69 charger. A badass looking car. Yeah. But like, why is it so long, goofy? Like, what's going on? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, old time. They hadn't figured out proportions yet. It looks weird. Yeah. That thing looks weird.

1:26:48It doesn't look modern. It looks different. It's definitely not modern. Okay. What does that have a nose? Uh, probably slammed into things. Oh, that is. No, that's like a real nostril. That's a real nostril. I breathe. That's another way. Unless they can breathe up above. Is that a nostril you don't? I don't. Well, I'm asked. It does look like a nostril. That's the only one that shows that same thing. That's crazy if that's a nostril. That could just be a hole in its nose. It could, but I think, yeah. Unless they're like, no. Oh, that looks the house. It does look like a nostril. They all have a little nostril.

1:27:18Fine, I think it can alligator, gar's, breathe, air. Because there are some fish that gulp air. Have you ever seen that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they come up, they actually gulp air. Yeah. There's no oxygen in the water. I mean, these things all look like they have no... Whoa. They have nostrils. But the primary respiratory organ is a swim bladder, which can be used to breathe in air when needed, especially in low oxygen environments. Wow. But they do breathe using gills at the top. They say they have gills and nostrils. That's nuts. Like, I said, like most fish have nostrils. I didn't know that.

1:27:50Most fish have nostrils. Whoa. Well, however they have a unique adaptation, a swim bladder connected to their mouth. Whoa. And swim bladder functions as a lung, allowing them to breathe air. What's easy? See, that's why they're still around. When did these motherfuckers first start being around? Like, how long have they been on Earth for? I'm gonna guess. Millions. Oh, it would, right? Yeah, from a hundred percent. That seems like a many million year old fish. I would guess like... A hundred... Oh, there it is. A hundred million or two million. And the critatious. So that's pre -dinosaur death.

1:28:25Because that's 65 million. Yeah, 65 million. So yeah, yeah, we're... So they were around a long before they opened up. And they opened up for 35 million years? Not nuts. That that's essentially a pre -store creature that you can go shoot with a bow. Yeah, or like me, smashers head in with... Smashers head in with the rock, or your uncles are drawing. Kind of crazy. That that's a... You know, it's an activity that people do. But I do hear that you can smoke them and then they taste good. I'll leave that up to... You won't even try it. Like, if someone's really good and they cook for you. And then like, just try it out.

1:28:58Dude, try it. I'd pretty much try anything. So yeah, I'd try eating more things. I had beaver once. I bet you. Oh really? I was. Me too one day. No, me and my friend Brian Callan and Steve Rinella. It was on the television show, Meadieder. And they trapped a beaver. And he cooked it. He made like a pot roast. It was fucking delicious. It was really good. I'd try it. But Steve's like an excellent cook. Yeah, really. Like he has cookbooks. Like, excellent cook. So he really knows how to make something. He cooks on the show. Yeah, yeah. All the time. Yeah, yeah. That's a... Yeah, I'd try it. I mean, there's not really any...

1:29:37I'd eat a dog. I'd eat... I'd try. I can't eat a dog. I could eat a person. Like, I could eat a person. I could eat a person. I had to eat a person. I don't think it would take all that much. Well, I think... Historically, you've been proven to be correct. Yeah. You know? What's the coffee? Do you drink coffee? No, I'm good. Yeah, historically, when push comes to shove, people will eat people. Yeah, I mean, was the name General Buttnacket? You ever heard of him? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's how he busted that guy at that market. You know, that's a serving human meat. That guy killed and ate people and then he was forgiven because he found Jesus.

1:30:12Yeah. And then he became... At the hagg. He became a pastor. Amazing. Well, he would take off all his clothes and go into battle and kill people while he's buttnacket with a machete. With a machete? Yeah, yeah. He would find children, kill them, cut their heart out and eat it so that he would become invincible. Eat the heart of his enemy's children. It worked? He's still alive. He's gone to home. That's the thing. Like, you can dismiss it all you want. Yeah, but the proof is in the pudding, isn't it? The devil has very specific rules. If you want the superpower from monster to minister, is the past about to catch up to Liberia's workermenls?

1:30:50So that's the thing is Liberia. Okay. So, I mean, I know that it was a colony basically to send African slaves back to Africa. Exactly. And it was one of the capitals, Monrovia. It's the name of after James Monroe. It is an insane place. Yeah. In the weeks before he found Jesus, the evangelist formerly known as General Buttnacket Reckons, he was sacrificing four or five children a day. Oh my God. Murder had long come naturally to him. He was only 11 when the elders who had steeped him in the ways of witchcraft first handed him the sacrificial knife, but he never killed with such intensity and ferocity as during those weeks in mid 1996 when Liberia's first civil war reached its calamitous climax on the blood -soaked streets of Monrovia, the country's battered capital.

1:31:41Several times a day the warlord and his battalion of boys all naked as he was would emerge into the maelstrom firing wildly as they added their own breed of terror to the chaos. Wow. Yet the blood -letting always began before a single bullet had been fired, before each engagement, Buttnacket, pagan priests and holy warrior would lay a child face down on the sacrificial table, slice open its victims back and pull out their still beating heart, thus ensuring magical protection for the coming battle. Fucking, yo. It's not really like a nice thing to do to someone. I mean fucking, yeah, that's that's insane.

1:32:22I mean, I don't care if he found Jesus, but he found Jesus. Hold on. He found Jesus. Is that actually why he got let off or did he get one year later? General Buttnacket, nom to gear, evangelist Joshua Milton Blahy, no longer cares to use, has never appeared in court for the war crimes he so freely admits to. Neither for that matter as anyone else, not in Liberia at least. That's pretty crazy. So they didn't even try. So that's how bad they got off. They just didn't even try. That's how bad that place is. Yeah, because he was under what's that guy saying? Charles Taylor. Charles Taylor is an absolute nut job as well.

1:33:00Have you ever seen machine gun preacher with Gerard Butler? No, I didn't. Oh, you got to watch that movie. So good. Machine gun preacher. Yeah, sounds like it. Is this one? When did this one come out? Maybe 2014, 2015 or so. So you're decently old. 2011, okay. Yeah, but it based on true story of a guy who had like some alcohol like drug issues, I believe, and I heard it is machine gun preacher. Yeah.

1:33:28Okay. Yeah, it's a. I'll check that out. Jamie, do you do me a favor, say me a note? Yeah, he went to Africa, like this guy. Yeah, he went to Africa and started building these like, you know, kind of, I guess not orphanage, but like schools basically. And then obviously, you know, the warlords would come in and burn these schools down because I don't want them being built and try to take the money that's being donated. So he started like going over there like he was at one point just kind of, you know, getting money and sending it there. And then he was like, wow, I should go over there with weapons and I'll protect these schools and it's basically what he did.

1:34:04And it's a pretty crazy story. The movie, yes, phenomenal. Yeah, man, there are parts of the world that are just fucking bananas. Yeah. Which is really great about the early days of vice. Oh, yeah. The early days of vice, man, they would go and interview like General Putt naked like that's where I heard about him. Yeah, a vice, talking to the cannibal warlords of Liberia was the documentary. They would go everywhere. All the crazy places. They would go all parts of the world. Yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah, amazing. Like just how crazy people are. So people that don't visit those places of the world, they don't see like the look in the eyes of people that have been to all those dangerous parts.

1:34:44Like my friend Shane, Shane Smith from vice, he's got this when he starts talking about these places that he's been, especially the early days, like there's like, he has an understanding of the dangers of the outside world that I think us in this little gated community, we call the United States, we're very, very ignorant about how fucking sideways things have gone in other parts of the world right now. Right. You're enjoying Netflix, cuddling up with your sweetheart, eating popcorn. There's parts of the world right now where someone's cutting out a child's heart to eat it before they go to battle.

1:35:15Like maybe not in the same timeline, but close enough. Not, I mean, who does this because he's not doing it doesn't mean something else. Who knows what's happening right now in certain war and torn parts of the world? Yeah. And we just think, well, you know, what we're really near is equity. We didn't worry about the climate. The climate change should be our number one priority. Like actually, you need to stay safe. Yeah. You need to fucking stay safe. And you need to understand there's a bunch of spots that aren't safe. Yeah. Well, and also, yeah, climate change, sure, worry about it. But like that kid's going to get his heart ripped out in the next 15 minutes.

1:35:51Let's go ahead and like worry about him. That's probably number one. And then yeah, let's let's go ahead and worry about him for a little bit. I think people go to climate after that. People who are good people don't want to believe that there's bad people in the world. And I understand that reluctance. I understand that you have this perspective. And in your world that you've cultivated, you probably are safe because you've cultivated this world of a bunch of people that share the world view of you. But when you enter into other people's spaces and you are ignorant to their culture and how crazy where like I read about this couple.

1:36:23He decided that they're going to prove that people were just good people everywhere. And they went and hung out with ISIS and they killed them. Did you read about that one Jamie? Do you know that story? That is incredible. I was like, you need better friends. You need better friends. You need better friends that show you some videos that show you like this is what's going on in this part of the world. Like you have to understand like it is, you need to talk to someone who's maybe served in Afghanistan like you need to understand what's going on over there. The problem is those people would never listen to that.

1:36:53They'd be like, well, you just saw the bad side of ISIS. You got ISIS on a bad day. I have a lighter that my friend Chris Williamson gave me that is from my comedy club that went to Antarctica because they took a group of people to show them that the world isn't flat. To show them the sun actually at the start, it does go around like that and you watch it the whole time. You know, fuck. Like, completely recalibrate. Like the guy that showed to launch himself up in the sky to prove it and he died. Yeah, the guy, he needed better friends. All these people just need better friends. Like, yeah, he need, he need people around you.

1:37:32Hey, don't do that. Yeah. And just, just reassure him, just tell him it's flat. Don't worry. He's flat. You don't have to worry. Imagine if it was like, imagine if all those morons were right and then everybody, all these scientists, all these satellites, all lies, all these geys. They've all been in cooots for this whole time. But even was a Socrates or Aristotle. I think Aristotle that mapped it out back in 3000 years ago. This is my take on it. I firmly believe that at one point in time, there was a bunch of people that were uninformed that thought the world was flat way back in the day. Yeah.

1:38:08Then they figured it out with experiments and then you look at all the other bodies in the solar system. Everything else is around. Kind of makes sense. You realize that this is how planets are formed, gravity, spins, and the whole deal. But then I think they're siops. And I think a bunch of people went on there just like they did with women with the free bleeding movement. A fortune. They convinced women to just fucking bleed all over their crotch. They convinced them. And they didn't buy making it seem like a feminist thing. Like fuck, these fucked patriarchy. I don't have to wear a fucking tampon, I'm gonna wear white pants.

1:38:38Fuck you. Look at my blood. And then women actually went and did it because people will buy into almost anything. There's a certain percentage of the population, whatever it is, that's so easily, they're so suggestible. They're so easily influenced. You can kind of talk them into almost anything. And I think that's part of where the flatter thing got sidewaysed because I think just like MK Ultra used to exist. I think there's still some, let's find out how dumb they are experiments. There's also just a lot of real dumb people. There's also some people who like, they also want to like think that everything's a cover up.

1:39:17I don't know. Yes. NASA, like what I trust NASA. I don't know why not. Like we didn't go to the moons of the earth, must be flat. I guess if those two things are related, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I just, yeah, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of people that don't want to actually do research. They want to watch a YouTube video and then start talking about it. That's me. That's my way. I'm with it. Yeah. I'm with it too. Yeah. I like a good deep dub. But sometimes just give me the damn bullet. Yeah. Well, sometimes I'm just fucking around and I'm not really serious about whether or not I care if it's real.

1:39:49I'm more interested to know about these emerald tablets. Like, where are they? Who's got them? What do they say? Like I don't want to know. It's a hoax. But I'm only fucking around. I'm not like completely invested in it. But when you start making videos about how you're correct in the world is flat and everybody else is wrong. Like, no, that's you're being you're annoying. This is silly. You're just not seeing things correctly. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of lies. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracies. It doesn't mean all of it. Okay, it doesn't mean the stars are actually lights in this guy. You know, a more interesting possibility is that it only exists when consciousness engages with it.

1:40:29And then that's the real simulation theory. That's the real weirdness. That's what things get like Tom Campbell, you know, the my big toe, the theory of everything. That's the things get really weird. When instead of consciousness is like a part of the creation of reality itself that it's all integrated. Jesus. Yeah. I don't like thinking about any of that stuff. He weirded me out. Yeah, I don't like the like space. I leave that alone. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Was there's an environment before the big bang? Yeah, I think they call it the environment.

1:41:09Is that what it's called? They're not. Yeah, what do they call it? Brian Cox was explaining to us. I was like, what? Oh, God. Yeah. All theoretical. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the problem. Because then like sometimes it's just, I don't know. Like I couldn't have that be, which, you know, great for like those people. I could not have that be my life. This is coming up with these theorems and like study them because you're never going to get an answer. But it doesn't have to be answer. I'm glad it's not you. Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Exactly. No, I'm glad that they do.

1:41:42I'd just say like for me, it would drive me. Right. Absolutely. Because I can't, I have to like, no one answer. Right. I can't. I hate like hypotheticals and like, like string theory. I hate it. That could piss off. I don't need to know any about that. That's not. That's not weird. Yeah, any of that stuff. I like, I like this happen on this day. This is who was involved. This is what happened. Right. Hard. Hard that kind of stuff. Well, space is the ultimate. Who the fuck knows? Yeah. Because we can only see so far. We see so far. But even so far is only so far. And then they're saying like it's always expanding.

1:42:18What's that? That can't be true. Because like, what is it expanding into? If space is space. You know, if they're like, oh, it's like blowing up a balloon where everything's okay, but you're blowing up a balloon in a room. Right. So what's the room that you're blowing the balloon into? Right. And then that's an a bigger room and then that's it. Right. And then there's the concept that it's actually finite. It's not infinite. It's some sort of donut shape. It's like, the Lord grows back around eventually. But then who made all that? Right. Like, is there a God? Did God make this? Or is God the universe?

1:42:49He happened to know made God. And then that bothers me. Right. But there's a way that they. Is that a thing that we think that like because we were born and we die, that we have these biological limitations that we attach to the universe itself? That's, that's a very, that's fair. That, yeah, that we just, we see things as being built and destroyed. That there's always been something. It wouldn't be crazier if there wasn't something at one point in time. That seems even crazier than there always has been something. Because if it's just something, if it's just the nature of everything, there is always something, right?

1:43:26Right. It couldn't be nothing. And then all of a sudden everything. That seems because what started that, what kicked that off, what snapped its fingers. That's, McKenna's great line. Terrence McKenna had a great line about the difference between science and religion. Is a science only asked you for one miracle? I want you to believe in one miracle, the big bang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good one. It's great line. It's, it's because it really is true. And it's funny because people would be incredulous about the resurrection of Jesus Christ. But yet they're convinced that the entire universe was smaller than the head of a pen.

1:44:00And for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me, makes sense. Yeah, no, I'm, yeah. It's detainiously became everything. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Uh, I can't buy that. I'm sticking with Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus makes more sense. It makes it more. That will make more sense. It's a life like in fact, you were one of your videos was about a woman who was hung. Oh, yeah. Tell that one. Oh, it was a Nancy Greene or Anne Greene, I think Anne Green. Yes, she was, she had basically a miscarriage. And, you know, at the time it was basically like, oh, you're a witch. We're going to kill you because your baby's not, it didn't live.

1:44:40So she just buried the thing actually like nothing happened. They tried her convicted her. So she had a miscarriage buried the child. Yeah, they caught her thinking that she had killed the kid. Right. Like, why would you be just burying your baby? Like, they weren't really thinking that, I should have miscarried. Hunger, I mean, as far as they know, she's dead, put her in a box, wooden box, take her to a mortuary and the guys, you know, getting her ready to prep her to bury her and she wakes back up after they start doing it. Like, they feel, well, they feel like a faint pulse and they're like, oh my god, this one was so alive, but she's not like coherent and alert.

1:45:16So they start giving her like a tobacco smoke, animals, which all got to be great. Who's idea, how do you go to that one first? Well, I don't know, I think. I got an idea, bro. I mean, slapping the hell out of her probably was a satisfaction. And a pack of marbles. Yeah, pouring hot, yeah, they poured this, which I don't know, cordial, I think it's just some sort of like liquid. Any, is that what, just look at, yeah, I don't know what. Invigorating or stimulating preparations intended for medicinal purposes, termed grass from obsolete usage. Basically, robot Tussum. Yeah, some sort of alcohol, I think.

1:45:48Oh, what a, there's some hot buffalo trace. Let's go, lady. Rubbing her limbs and extremities, blood letting. Always a good option. Pulits, poultis. Poultis? Oh, I didn't know about the poultis. What is that? Soft moist mass. A moist mass. So like a, so basically putting like a, like a hot, you know, but like cereal is like cereal. Okay, cereal. I don't know. So they put oatmeal. Soft materials like cereal uses a base. So they put oatmeal on her tips and big bowl of oatmeal are tips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tobacco, they're just experimenting on this lady. The tobacco smoke animal, to me, is the wildest one.

1:46:23Like you went up a asshole with a cigar. Is that what you did? You weirded. Yeah, like a back door Clinton. That's a guy that wanted to smoke a cigarette in the operating room. So I know, well, some smoke up grass. Yeah, yeah. That might be a good idea. Oh, my goodness, literally. Yeah. He blows smoke on my ass. Yeah, yeah. It's supposed to be deceiving you. That's probably probably found out it was some bullshit. Right, right. Are you still trying to do that shit? Ah, he's just so mad. That's a freak. Yeah. Because a lot of morticians have been freaks. Like that's my best. That famous Sam Kinnison bit.

1:46:52Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. It's one of the greatest bits of all time. She started talking after 12 hours. Yeah, started eating food. That's nuts. So like, she came back from the dead. She came home. You told me Jesus can't. Well, Jesus was after three days. I feel like after three days, you're already sitting there. People are tougher back then, bro. Well, that's true. 2 ,000 years ago, people were, they had some gumption too. Well, they're probably also 2 ,000 years less evolved. So it probably stronger. Stronger? Yeah, like more robust. Oh, they were able to survive. If you survived 2 ,000 years ago, I just would imagine.

1:47:26Like, you're going through some tough times. Yeah. You know, like, you can't have like, there's no bad genes back then. Nobody makes it. Yeah, and Jesus went through some stuff by the time he hit 33. I just think human beings probably, we're probably dealing with a very robust gene pool. The people that did live, you know? Yeah, especially if you go back earlier and earlier. Like, you go way back. Yeah, because they were basically doing like, so probably the fittest. I mean, it was, that was life, you know. If you have a kid who comes out all gimpy, you just throw that for a girl. Dead. Yeah, they're dead.

1:47:59You sacrifice them. You do it. They can't be held down. Right. You know, I was watching this YouTube clip yesterday on Crow Magnum, man. Like the early homo sapiens who killed off a lot of the Neanderthals, like the battles with the Neanderthals. Like, there were just these massive fucking Icelandic type dudes that lived back then. Like, you had to be tough to survive thousands of years ago. So especially if you lived in the North like that. Oh, God. Like, can you imagine being a Viking, just living in like Iceland, Greenland. Yeah, your house has been at stake. It's in this polar bear's outside.

1:48:33God. It just sucks. Fuck. There's nothing to do. Fuck. I wouldn't like that one bit. I'm real glad I live right now. I would have liked to have lived a couple like decades back. I think I think I'd be more comfortable, like in the 70s or 80s. I think you're perfect right here, dude. You get more research information now. That's true. Be harder to do your job back then. Oh, everybody's thinking bullshit. Like, this is crazy. Well, everybody already does. I was holding Tucker's full of shit, man. Some make it stuff up about the past. And so most people already think I'm doing anyways, which is fine, I mean.

1:49:07Well, how do you research it? Like, how do you find crazy facts? I just, well, one, just read like books constantly. So like, I'll say like Napoleon, I'll just be like, all right, let me find a book on Napoleon, read about Napoleon. And I'm mostly just skimming through looking to like find some of this seems interesting. Or then I'll just Google like interesting shit about Napoleon and then read through it. Half of it's not true. So I got a sift through that and then put it all together until like kind of a story and do it that way. But yeah, it's mostly just reading like articles online, like scholarly articles, I just say just like flipping through them until I find something.

1:49:47Imagine trying to piece through the truth of the 1700s. Just imagine. Yeah, I mean, right now, like try to figure out exactly what happened. It's, I mean, there it was some good like, yeah, no tape, no tape. Yeah, but it's going on. But yeah, how would you know? I mean, barely know. Yeah, I mean, really, you don't have to go back, go back to the 20s. Right. Like who now is going to be like, oh, yeah, that did happen. Well, yeah, I mean, you're at least we have like photographs and stuff. But my point was going to be now, now take it back a couple thousand years ago. Like good luck. Well, that's why so many people think some, you know, that have a hard time knowing for sure whether some people even existed, like Achilles, like people who, you know, still believe that he necessarily existed.

1:50:40I mean, they didn't believe that entire war happened until like relatively recently. Well, they didn't find Troy until like what year? Like Troy was supposed to be just a mythical place. I don't know a date. I'm thinking the 50s, if I had to guess, I think it was like kind of close. But yeah, they just knew less than a hundred years ago. Yeah, I think so. I mean, because they, which is nuts. Yeah, they just knew Homer. They just knew that Elliot, the Odyssey and the new things and thought it was all big to it. Because then if you know that that war is true, like once you've discovered that that did happen, then it's like, so was Achilles real?

1:51:15So it's like agamemnon real. Like it's like hard to know is Odysseus real and then, but obviously there's things in there that aren't real, you know, Odysseus. That's what's weird, right? It's like there's some for sure fiction, I think, but maybe not. Maybe the world was way weirder back then. Because maybe all those weird things got killed off. Right. That's the thing. It's like maybe there were like almost godlike creatures that existed that we, you know, we want to call Zeus or Hercules or maybe maybe this is just like years and years and years of retelling stuff. Because like Homer's take on Atlantis is one of the most fascinating.

1:51:52I've been obsessed with Atlantis ever since, particularly I had Jimmy Corsetti on the podcast. And have you ever seen his videos on the Ryshart? Did I say it, Jimmy? Rechart? Rechart? Rechart? Structure? There's this area in sub -Saharan Africa that has all of the attributes of Atlantis, including its position, where the mountains are to the north, where the rivers to the south, the concentric rings. It literally is the same size as described, the concentric rings. It looks like a complete anomaly. It does not look like something that's naturally occurring. And the entire area looks like it's, when you look at it from an, like an aerial satellite photo, it looks like it's blown out by water.

1:52:38Like immense amounts of water rushed to the land. Like the whole area looked massive water erosion. Like when you look at it from above, it looks like it just got hit with the most fucking insane flood of all time. This literally salt, there's white all around the area where this Ryshart structure is, which was probably from the fucking ocean. Right, for sure. Yeah. This to this day. And also evidence of human habitation. They found pottery. They found a bunch of things. But it's a kind of sketchy area of the world. And I don't think there's been a lot of like real excavation done there. But look at it from the top.

1:53:14I recommend everybody go to Bright Insights YouTube page and just watch some of the videos he has on it. And he's not saying it's for sure this, but he, he, it's not just him. It's many other people. This is the area. Show it, the image of it from space. Jesus Christ. Because there's, it's crazy, dude. It literally looks like how Atlantis was described with concentric circles. But crazier still is its position to the mountains which are in the north and the south where the river runs through is literally exactly as described. And if you look at the image from, but look how it all looks blown out, man.

1:53:54It all looks completely washed out. That is crazy. Watch how you go further out. Look at that. Tell me. Oh, the whole thing. The whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like the whole thing is just scarred from water, just a massive amount of water. That's, so from a, yeah, that is from the position where it is, the description of it, the, the actual dimensions of it. Yeah. Everything about it, man. Even the descriptions of it and like the colors of the rocks that are in that area, it matches so many details. Oh, it's a more attaining. Okay. Isn't that nuts? That is amazing. Look at it. I mean, that's so nice.

1:54:34Shout out to Jimmy Corsetti because once, because, because Randall Carlson dismissed this, but I was like, how were you dismissing this? I don't understand. I mean, dismissing it based on. He doesn't think that this is it. Land as he thinks it land as somewhere else. Maybe he's right. I mean, I don't know. Maybe there was more than one. I mean, when a bunch of people die at a time where you don't have phones and you know, you don't have computers like it's real possible that the, the myth of it, land is your talking about like a civilization that existed at a certain point in time. And it might not have just been this one incredible city, but there's probably multiple cities that existed that just don't exist anymore, just completely flattened.

1:55:12And then some people remembered this one. You know, that's also part of the equation that you have to like look at when you see that kind of insane water erosion. Like, how much did people just have no recollection of? Right, right, right. But it's all lines up numbers wise. This is what's nuts. Homer was talking about it being 9 ,000 years old. That's 2 ,000 years ago. That's at the time of the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. It's the same time period. Right. So it's like, it lines up perfectly for it. Yeah. It lines up perfectly. The description is perfect. The position is perfect. Again, I'm a moron.

1:55:49But listen to me. Go listen to other people that are interested. Because I became, I probably watched 30 videos on it. It's why I'm saying that. That's so cool. It looks like it's Lantis. It looks like the way they described it. There's so many people that are resisting. There's a really interesting thing in archaeology where there's, you know, there's not disrespectful to archaeology. It's an amazing thing. I'm glad you guys are out there. But there's a lot of people that do not want anyone to find something out before they have. And they do not want anyone to uncover something before they have.

1:56:23Not especially if these people are not credentialed academics. They're not PhDs. They're not doctors or I'm doctor Smith and I'm out here finding this. You know, they don't want like regular people looking at Google images and going, hey, what the fuck is this? Now, let's go and do it. And then like, let's look at the history of the description of the place. Actually, it lines up exactly. They don't want to miss that. So they'll try to dismiss it with every fiber of their being rather than give ground and give credibility to these amateurs. Yeah. That's what happens with this true crime community people, you know, because they'll sometimes like bust a case wide open, cops and detectives.

1:57:00Hate it because it's like, you're just a guy sitting on your couch at home and you did more than what I did. But obviously, like a detective has all these different cases. Like, they're not going to make a few mistakes. And some probably do just not give a shit. Fucking ego. Yeah. But that's part of it is that they will just dismiss the leads because somebody will call in and be like, hey, like, have you all checked this person on this date? Like ask what they were and they're like, we did it. Don't worry about it. And of course, they never did. So it is. So that is kind of similar situation. Like, like, we want to, we want to be the ones to find it.

1:57:34Yeah. So we don't care exactly who's gone out and done your own thing. Exactly. And have a theory that may be true. I mean, maybe people should, but it may be true. Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's interesting. It is very interesting. The whole thing is very interesting because clearly we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle laid out. And there are people that want to pretend that we do. And that's just not the case. Yeah. There's just, there's too much weird stuff and there's too much time that passed. And the weird stuff is like, go back to the tap being these 11 ,000 new old structures and a bunch of stuff that they're finding and Malta, the Malta stuff's nuts.

1:58:07But it's also, it's just, there's no way you can know. Like, if you, if you're an expert in like combustion engines and you want to break down, you know, the, the new coyote 5 .0, the Ford makes and you're an expert in engines, I'm going to listen to you because I don't know how it works. How does it work? Well, it's so good. How's the supercharger work? And then it does what? Okay. How do you control all that? I mean, the ECU and the traction control. Okay. Because you're an expert in that. But you can't be an expert in the entire history of the human race because we don't have all the information.

1:58:39So you're bullshitting. You at least have to be kind of bullshitting. Yeah. Like we just found out super recently that there were human beings definitely in North America 22 ,000 years ago. Yeah. Super recently. Yeah. I thought it was even our past like earlier than that. Could be. Maybe they've updated it. I thought, but I know those footprints. Those New Mexico footprints, the New Mexico footprints, I believe are 22 ,000 years ago. So what did they think before that? 13. They were, that was Clovis first. There was a people that thought the Clovis people. But again, you don't fucking know. Well, it wasn't, I mean, that long ago when people found out about like the Vikings coming over to New England, I mean, yes.

1:59:18Yeah, that was a somewhat recent discovery. I mean, obviously not like in the past couple of years, but it was not very well known that like Leif Ericsson's, I guess it was Eric the Red. Yes, so Leif Ericsson like coming over, you know, 500 years before Columbus. I know. And they were here. I mean, they just didn't settle. They know it's not significant. But, you know, they were here. And the Hoonett, so who's to say that there were people way before them? And then there's all these different routes you can take. And there's the ideas of like the Phoenicians coming or maybe the Egyptians like coming into South America, you know, even longer than that, like thousands of years ago.

1:59:54Yeah. There's those theories, which yeah, who knows, I don't know. Well, there's also all the stuff in the Amazon. Right. The Lost City of Z, like that stuff. Yeah. That's crazy. Have you ever seen that movie? Yes. Oh, yes. So, what's interesting about the story about the Lost City of Z is that it all changed in a hundred years. So it's true. In the 1500s that first guy goes and he gives everybody kudis and he doesn't know. And then he come, they come back a hundred years later to see if he was telling the truth. And everybody's dead. Right. Everybody's dead and all the cities are gone and 100 years.

2:00:33Yeah. And they're like, I was bullshit and we got there. There's no fucking cities made out of gold. The guy's an asshole because the jungle ate it. Yeah, which a hundred years is such a long time. In the jungle. For like that kind of like vegetation structure. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a, yeah. It's not the middle of the desert where, you know, those structures will last for thousands of years. I mean, what was that like? Because I forget the gentleman's name. Who's the first explorer? Percy Fossett. Thank you. Percy Fossett? The first guy? No. No, the second guy. He's the guy who disappeared. Right.

2:01:05He's the guy that got eight in the movie. Yeah. Like the Rockefeller kid. Yeah. He's the one that formulated the idea about lost city names. Right. But who was the first explorer to the Amazon that reported these incredible cities? Because that was in the 1500s. I think Percy Fossett. No. Those are some of the light that I found a document. No, the European guy who's a explorer who went specifically to try to travel the length of the Amazon River. It's believed to have been written by a Portuguese name, How the Silva Gumieres. Yeah. 1753. 1753? That he had discovered the ruins of an ancient city that he didn't marches.

2:01:42No, there was a guy from the 1500s. This is what I'm reading from the computer. No, I understand. But I was watching this video where they were talking about this guy who was initially from the 1500s, who was the first to describe what he saw there. And that he saw thriving populations. Like incredibly sophisticated agricultural setups. Like these people, they lived in harmony with the rainforest in some strange way. Like instead of like because the video was about was about they were trying to reconcile how you could get enormous populations of people that lived in this area without the kind of agriculture that we assume you need to have in order to support these kind of populations.

2:02:22Yeah. Exactly. So they did something different and integrated somehow with the rainforest. And it was also about that stuff that Camcac has talked about. Terrapreta, the type of soil that they had created. It's a man -made like composted soil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they talked about this too. But in this documentary, they were going over the guy who came in the 1500s and the guy who visited it. It might have been the Y -files. I'm seeing a, but known Italian navigator Christopher Columbus answers the area in 1498, known as President David, Venezuela. Two years later, Pinzone sales into the Amazon.

2:02:59So the same year, Brazil is being accidentally found by Portuguese explorer Cabral. Mm -hmm. Well, and route to the Orient. 40 years later, a guy named Oriana or El Yana. Got to wish a good remember the name of the guy. Yeah. But the point is, the first people to go there that were Europeans that went back to Europe described these insanely sophisticated cultures that had millions of people living in it. Right. They had huge populations. And they talked about the elaborate headgear they wore, like the way they dressed and there was gold everywhere. And so everybody was like, oh, we're going to go back and get rich.

2:03:36And they went back and everyone was dead. That's so crazy. I mean, you can do it, imagine. Like, you'd feel like such a jackass. You know, having everybody come back there and you're... Well, it's essentially what we did with North America. Not we. Well, my grandparents came here in the 20s. But essentially when Europeans came here, that's what killed just disease killed 90 % of Native Americans. Yeah. Which is... I mean, it was the same in like the Indies. Yeah. You don't want to ever columnist care and care. Everywhere. Just massive amounts of people. Just like China did to us, just kidding.

2:04:08Just kidding. Not really. They didn't. But they killed a lot of things. But it's just bizarre that we've missed that chapter. And it wasn't until LIDAR that they started to realize like, oh, there's like sophisticated grid work down here. Yeah. It seems to indicate that there's aquedogs. It seems like there's like places where there was channels and paths and... Yeah. What we have like, I mean, there's obviously like a Euro -centric idea, but a lot of the times and... Where we think like, oh, where the only ones here could have ever come up with like these advanced technologies and like had these advanced civilizations.

2:04:51And you look and it was like in Africa, there's all sorts of like massive civilizations and... Which is about the Aztecs. Yeah, yeah. And then of course, like, yeah, South America is a huge, I mean, like the old Max Aztecs minds. Especially the Aztecs though, because... Yeah, the Aztecs is a... There's times. Not, man. Their stuff was nuts. Like you can imagine what experiencing that must have been like, the first people that were like Europeans that like stumbled upon these immense Aztecs cities. Like, what is happening here? That was Cortez. Cortez was the first, I think, I think for the Aztecs.

2:05:24Cortez, yeah. On horse, what they thought he was a god. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he's always from here. Yeah. That's the other nutty thing that we brought horses over here. Like, what? Yeah. Like, they used to be over here and then they all died off and then we brought them back. Yeah. God, no. That's crazy. So great. Thomas Jefferson brought mac and cheese here. He's the guy. Made it popular. I mean, like, it was like nobody ate that shit. He went to Paris, you know, obviously like for pre -American revolution to get some buddies going and yeah, brought back mac and cheese. Also, like, one of the first Americans to cultivate tomatoes.

2:05:57Really? People thought they were poisonous, which to an extent they are. Yeah, I was reading about that. Like, that you should be really avoid nightchades. Yeah, it's a nightmare. That's how it's turned into plants. Yeah. But wait a minute. Yeah. But they taste so good. Yeah. How dare you? I mean, every Italian in this in the world just, yeah. Yeah, I want to get like one of those blood work things done to see like what foods you're supposed to not be eating forever. You know, it's probably horseshit. But, you know, like for your blood type, you know that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did one of those a long time ago and they told me to avoid avocados and I'm like, fuck you.

2:06:31Look, the fuck avocado is really like, isn't that like good for everyone? That's what I thought. It was one of them wacky things where I was very skeptical going into, I'm like, all right, I'll try it. Let's see what I, what I shouldn't should be eating. Well, it seems like avocados. Like, what are you talking about? That's insane. I'm not stomping guacamole, bitch. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I couldn't be do. No, no, I can't be. It's, there's no way it's that bad for you. Avocados can't be very good for you. All right. For one, I thought no, but you're just fucking defect. You have to have where avocados are killing you.

2:07:01That seems crazy. I mean, you know, peanuts. Look at them. I mean, you know, Texas Road House damn near out of, damn near one bankrupt over all this. Really? Kind of, I mean, but they don't do the whole thing. They should have the vaccine companies. Should have. But you can. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But they don't do the whole, you know, you used to go and they can crush up your peanuts and you just dump that shit on the floor. I know. Especially when you feed them. They used to have them at five guys. You used to go to five guys. Not even peanuts. Yeah. Not anymore. Yeah. I know. Because you can't even eat them in the room because if someone is near you that has a severe peanut allergy, that's why they don't have mom planes anymore.

2:07:36Remember that you still have mom planes? Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. You can't even eat peanut. Like if you and I were sitting next to each other on a plane and I have a severe peanut allergy and you start eating them, I could die. It's just sitting next to you. Breathing your peanutty air. God. What a great way to kill someone if you really wanted to and you're away with it. I don't know. Just peanut dust some. Yeah. You just need a PB and J. Pocket peanuts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just have some mashed up peanuts. You toss on them. God. What a fucking anthrax. Great way to kill someone. Yeah. For everybody else, it's just a yummy part of Snickers and for you, it's basically anthrax.

2:08:14It is made because I'm allergic to seafood like shellfish. Any shellfish. Really? Yeah. You know, you're also allergic to roaches then. You can't eat roaches. And you know how we found that out? Yeah. Fear of the actor. Oh, really? That's what was from that. That's all I found out out. Well, because there is a thing where scientists who research cockroaches develop usually tend to develop an allergy to coffee and to roaches. And I think also to shellfish. Wow. Yeah, like because they're just studying roaches constantly, which what a fucking job. But yeah, they end up developing a coffee allergy.

2:08:49But yeah, that's interesting. Why coffee? Because you're just drinking coffee all the time. I don't know. I think probably because the roaches are... Yeah. Wow. Some people can develop an allergy to coffee if they're also allergic to cockroaches. So becoming allergic to cockroaches is kind of working with them is what makes them allergic to. So it's a truffle myosin. Truffle myosin. Yeah. A common allergen. Cross reactivity means individuals allergic to cockroaches may also experience allergic reactions when consuming coffee, particularly pre -ground coffee. See my mind, I thought it was because there was a bunch of cockroaches and pre -ground coffee.

2:09:24Ew. There's bugs and like... They're a ground up cockroaches and you're holding cockroaches. Jesus Christ you're right. Oh no. Bunk parts and ground coffee. So it's ground coffee. Yeah. Just get some black rifle beans kids. Stay away from ground coffee. Of course ground coffee is for savages. Like what are you doing? I have the folders. Right, that shit up. No, you got a good... You drink folders? I don't drink coffee. But if I did I'd drink folders from Maxwell House. I don't know. I mean I grew up poor and I trashed. Yeah but coffee is not expensive. It's only expensive at Starbucks. That's true.

2:10:00Like regular like buy a bag of beans, get a grinder, pour hot water. Get it in one of these bitches. French press. Oh my god. Push that down after a minute. Oh wait a minute. You want to hear it in here? Listen to this. Okay. That does actually sound... That sounds fucking good. It's incredible.

2:10:20Delicious. Yeah. That's real coffee. You don't want that fucking ground up bullshit. Unless you do. Unless... You know what's legit though? Those little packets that Starbucks has? Where it's... It's like instant coffee. Yeah. Those legit. They figured that out. They did a really good job of like developing that formula. I think it's called... Was it called a Viru or something like that? What's that Starbucks instant coffee? It's very legit. Like I mixed it up with hot water on camping. I think it's called a Bink Trips and not drinking trips. It's like... This is pretty fucking good. That's not bad though.

2:10:49Yeah, it's good. It tastes like real coffee. Yeah. But I think like that was complicated to me. I don't think like the cheaper instant coffee has that kind of... I'm sure not. Because if you like coffee, I like the flavor. I like what it tastes like. Yes. I do too. It just gives me panic attacks. Do you try that... Well, and then there's the D -caps. Which is like... D -caps gives me a fucking headache. And I don't know how they did it. Right. Yeah. How are you doing that? Yes. Like what? Like it's not like you can go ahead and pick out the coffee. Right. You know, it's not like... What do you do an ingredient in there?

2:11:20You're putting it through some sort of chemical process. Yeah. Like is that safe? I don't think so. And how many studies that have been done on your D -caps. I should probably... I just drink tea. I'm a big tea guy. Also like what tea tastes better? If I was just gonna drink like a fine... But also tea. Tea bags have microplastics. You've been reading all that? Oh well, I have so much plastic inside of me. I mean, I know. I mean, the amount of lunchables I've eaten is growing up. Yeah. I know. I know. The amount of times you put saran wrap over a microwave meal. Oh my god. So many times. You just heat things up in like plastic that's all broken into shit.

2:12:00Always. Always. Yeah. And then it melts because you left it in there too long. Oh shit. Oh, well, it's okay. Oh, I've eaten food. It tasted like burnt plastic. It's honestly. I don't think this macaroni and cheese is supposed to taste like this. There was some sort of article that was saying that many human beings have as much as a plastic like coffee spoon worth of plastic in their head. Like what was the head? Yeah, in their head. How's it get up there? Blood brain barrier. I don't know. Microplastics. That microplastics get in your bloodstream. It could be like the sky is falling. You're all gonna die from plastic.

2:12:37It could be. It's hard to know because it's not like there are... It's like there are a lot of things if you looked at it. Well, yeah. And then also like it's not like there is an actual spoon shoved in your head. I mean, it's all spread out. It's all spread out. So it's all spread out. But also like do you have room for a spoonful of plastic in your head? Because I don't have any room up there. I think you do in your brain. Your brain's mostly water. Right. I mean, not just you. I'm not insulting you. What your brain filter looks like. There's plastic everywhere. Constructions we saw on the brain tissue of normal individuals had an average age of around 45 or 50 years old were 4 ,800 micrograms per gram or 0 .48 % by weight.

2:13:11It's the equivalent to an entire standard plastic spoon in your fucking head compared to autopsy brain samples from 2016. That's about 50 % higher, he said. That would mean that our brains today are 99 .5 % brain and the rest is plastic. That's not bad. That's a good percentage. 0 .5 % is not bad. However, the current methods of measuring plastics may have over or underestimated their levels in the body. Can't be said. We're working hard to get a very precise estimate which I think we will have within the next year. So it may be zero and it may be 10%. Yeah, sorry. 10%. No plastic at all in there.

2:13:49It's all in your balls. Yeah. Plastic in your balls. Oh, I need some of that. They found that. There's plastic in your balls. It plumps them up a little bit like fake lips. Which I do. I mean, I need that desperately. You know, like, would chicks get fillers to hide the wrinkles? Exactly. Clumps your balls up a little with microwave dinner plastic. Yeah, I'm fine with that. It's like one, we were going over this. What was it every month? It was a credit card or a week? I've seen this. Yeah, it's a month, I think. I think it's a month. I think it's a credit card amount of plastic consumed. I don't remember it's a week or a month, but I think it's crazy.

2:14:23Where's it all going? Because I've been eating for a long time. Where are these credit cards? You must do not just shit out the plastic credit card. I would hope so. I would hope so. I remember how this was studied though. I had to dig into it and they had studied like an animal or something. And the animals and they're like, that's what I mean. But animals are dumb as shit, right? They eat bottle caps. My dog eats everything every week is what it says. Oh, Jesus. My dog eats everything on the ground. I don't trust animal studies. The only way you didn't really know is if you tried on people. Right.

2:14:54That's why we got to put them prisoners back in Alcatraz. Wow. Do what you got to do. Yeah, I'm here. Trump is opening up Alcatraz again. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean, a grand opening. Look, the world's crazy. I like fun. And Trump's saying he's going to reopen up Alcatraz is fun to me. Because I know that it's going to be like, wow. What's he going? It's Trump says he's a real open and large. And he built Alcatraz. It's going to be the best Alcatraz. It's not just going to be the best. Alcatraz, we use a federal pen and 10 tree since 1963. That could have passed you a roughly 300 people.

2:15:31I went there as a kid. Oh, really? Yeah, when I was in, what grade was I? I was so, I was, I was in San Francisco from age seven to 11. So I think it was eight years old. I went over there. I have a little school trip. We went on a ferry. You go to Alcatraz and you think about like, how the fuck someone could swim? Because there's a dude Nick Diaz, UFC fighter. He's done it five times. Swim from Alcatraz. Five times. I wouldn't do that. You can. In shark infested water by the way. You couldn't pay me to do that. Fuck all that. I mean, I didn't swim like a motherfucker. But do you know the kind of balls you have to have to know that, you know, you know, you're on a live vest.

2:16:09You're just swimming. You have to be able to swim all the way to shore with sharks underneath you everywhere. And you know if they bite you, you're dead and you know they bite people. I'd rather just be in prison really. Yeah, but he's doing it for funsies. Oh, he's doing it. Well, D .S. does it in between MMA fights he was doing this. Well, the D .S. brothers, that's a set of balls unlike, you know, you know, no other. Like those guys are legends, you know, for sure. For sure. So that doesn't surprise me at all actually that they, you know, they swim in from Alcatraz. Well, people miss Nick's prime because Nick's prime, a lot of it happened in strike force.

2:16:50Like people missed that. Yeah, yeah. That's when he was just like just so dominant. So he came into the UFC kind of later into his career. Well, he started the UFC very early. So he knocks out Robbie Lawler early in his career. Has some great fights early in his career. So he was in the UFC early on, but then left the UFC and went over strike force where I think he like reached his prime. Okay. Like when he beat Frank Shamrock and cyborg, he was in his fucking prime over there. He had a world championship caliber prime. But that guy would swim across Alcatraz in between his, like, he's training for fights.

2:17:27Yeah, yeah. And in between training for fights, he's running triathlons and hitting the bong while he's doing it. Like it's hilarious. He's high as fuck running triathlons. You ever just see someone like, you're so different than me. So different. Like, how else couldn't be more different? My friend, Cam Haynes right now is running a 250 mile race with a broken foot.

2:17:51What? Bro, it's doing half. I would get it fixed and I definitely wouldn't run. I might not ever run again. He's doing half of the Daytona 500 on a broken foot. On a broken foot. Hold on through the mountains. No, thank you. Yeah, no, like, past, please. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't even go do that fat boy five -gett. Either I'm going to be doing that. Courtney Doe Walters currently in second place. She's already around 48 miles today. That's so nuts. When did it start? Courtney Doe Walters, she's in the podcast where she's an animal. We put a pure animal. So it started this morning? Is that what you said?

2:18:27Yeah. Yeah. 48 miles behind by three miles right now. Who's ahead of her? A guy named Haroldus, Subair Tuss. Does he win these things? There's like only a few people that, like, she's one of them. There's only a few people that win these things. Could you, a lot of people start off real fast, but you can't keep it up for three days? Could you imagine running 48 miles in a day and you're in second place? Not even a day. Yeah. It's like five hours. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, you know, like, yeah. You know, like, yeah. 48 miles and like, what you, you lost. Yeah, bro, your weight, your weight, your weight.

2:18:59You're in miles behind. Like, what? Oh, yeah. I'd put a shotgun on my mouth so quick before I did any of that. But we need people like you. And then people like them. That's the beautiful thing about the human race is that we're all so fucking different. Yeah. You know, there's so many versions of humans out there. And we should really, we should celebrate that. I love it. That's a good thing. I love how different, like, whenever I go back and look at, like, people from history or whatever, that's like one of the things I like the most about is, like, how I'm like, God, that person's night and day different from me.

2:19:35Yeah. That's so cool that they did what they did or, you know, whatever, like a Teddy Roosevelt. Like, there's nothing about me that is like Teddy Roosevelt. How about that dude that ate that guy's heart that had been pickled for like, oh, yeah, William Buckland. Yeah, he ate a King Louis XIV's heart, which had been and for Maldow. Yeah, well, yeah, King Louis XIV just in general an absolute nut job that, you know, birthing fetish, like to watch women give birth, which don't we all. But, yeah. But, yeah, so he dies 130 years later, you know, his heart has been preserved and what I guess would be for Maldow and it's sitting in this guy's office, basically, in a fellow, I think he was like the archbishop of Canterbury.

2:20:19I don't know, some of the word, whatever, the little fruity, little men, they use each other. But then this fellow named William Buckland comes in and who had kind of like a notorious big stomach, ate a lot of weird shit and he saw the heart and was like, holy hell, that's the heart of King Louis XIV. I've never eaten the heart of a King before so how about I just give it a try and then they come in, come back in and he's eating the damn heart. Well, preserved, I mean, it's best preserved as it gets. It's been preserved for 100. But he's right, we're cooking it. That's my point. No, no, no, no, he didn't have like a hot plate in there.

2:20:53He's pulling it out. Yeah, it wasn't in the microwave. Imagine being a real one with that guy. When he takes those bites, you'd be like, oh god. What are you doing, man? A formaldehyde. Have you ever had a dosa like an animal? Yeah, yeah, that smell is like a smell that I can smell it right now thinking about it, you know? Like it's one of those things that never leaves you. It's like a dead body smell. Biting into a raw heart with that smell. It's probably pretty tender. He tried to eat everything. He doves his cap, Victorian feud hero, a gentleman whose ambition was to eat an example of every animal in existence.

2:21:30Again, this Courtney Donald Walter, a TM haze who are running 250 miles right now, and this is just dude, he's like, I want to eat one of everything. I want to eat a fucking rat. I mean, what is this guy ate rats? He probably had rabies. He kept a pet jackal in his house. He's got a jackal in his house. He built the country's first mosque, had a jackal in his house. He lived in a hut made from driftwood, dressed as a mermaid, and ex -communicated his cat. Yes, somebody else though. I really should have done that. They're 90 and Robert Hawker. Oh, to the west, famed Cornish poet, Robert Stephen Hawker lived in a, so this is not just a bunch of weird guys that were living in that time.

2:22:08Oh, also the definitely cat. Then it goes into the... Oh, this is a different guy. I'm not any of these were. I thought it was the same guy. Okay, this is just a bunch of weirdos all throughout history. So Charles, Major General, Charles George Gordon. So it's the third paragraph. It starts the William Buck one, I think. These are all eccentric guys from... Oh, different people were right here. Buck one was born. Yeah, I think that's all going to be about him. This is also pretty good. They don't leave this out. Right. So this guy, Major General, Charles George Gordon, a British Army officer whose day job, saw him fight a series of bloody campaigns across the Middle East and Africa, yet was almost as notorious for believing the earth was encased in a hollow sphere, and that the Garden of Eden was located in the sea, somewhere off the coast of...

2:22:51Seychelles. Seychelles. People do that now. I... I'll let you run the heart on. This... Oh, my God. William Buckland. So the man who ate everything, born in 1784, a year in which famine in Japan claimed 300 ,000 lives, and a massive locus warm hit South Africa. Coincidous, of course, but it fits in the theme of this blog. Nicely so, leave it in it. So this guy ate everything he could. Alongside he had his hand in a huge hyenas skull, suddenly dashed down the steps, rushed skull in hand, the first undergraduate in the front bench enshouted, what rules the world? The youth terrified answered not a word.

2:23:34He rushed then onto me, pointing the hyena full of my face. What rules the world? Have an idea, I said. The stomachs, sir, he cried. Rules the world. The great ones eat the less, the less the lesser still. So he just started giving me great by... eating everything. Here's some of the stuff he was eating. So his lifelong personal ambition, which is to eat an example of every animal in existence, like some kind of crazed bloodthirsty Noah.

2:24:03Oh my God, he ate a porpoise, a puppy, and a panther. Aw, a little red. And that's just the piece. Mice on toast, where a regular feature of his no doubt popular suarez. Oh my God, he ate a porpoise and a puppy. Jesus Christ. I mean, the porpoise probably wouldn't be so bad. I'd eat the puppy. It's like a dogveel. Yeah, I guess. I mean, I wouldn't see. Like, flaxthumbs to this proven myth. Myths identifying the flavor as bat urine. How would you know that so quick? Well, I think you had a real good reason to eat the patty. But eating the heart, I bet all those years of formaldehyde is probably quite tender, right?

2:24:45Yeah. Oh, it melts your mouth. What if it just tasted amazing? For some reason. Right. What do we guys say? Oh my God. Yeah, that's how you find God. It's just some guy had it. A guy had it. Yeah, Lord Heart Court. That's who I was talking about. So Terika, imagine how mad he would be. Find out some guy ate your heart. Did he be pissed? I'd be pissed. The worst thing Buckland ever ate, blue bottles. What does that blue bottles mean? It's a tie. I had a fish starter in my eyes. I think this is. Might be some sort of a blue bottle. What could that be? Unless he's actually eating glass? I don't think that's what it is.

2:25:26Oh, poor chicken's man of war. Oh, it's a pretty cool looking thing. Wow, that looks like a mermaid. Yeah. Click on that one. Yeah, right there. No, the one to the right of that. Yeah. Look at that fucking thing. Yeah, you know, I kind of do want to eat that. I'm sort of with him on this. So is that like a jellyfish? Yeah, man of war is a jellyfish. So that must be insanely toxic. But I think man of war, aren't they like, yeah, like super venomous? Eat that. Of course, it's the worst thing ever. It's like literally a kill you. That doesn't seem like it'd be the worst thing though. Well, he didn't eat everything.

2:26:02I guess he probably died along the way. Like you can only do that for so long for your body to just fuck you. I wonder how long you lived. Yeah, how long did that guy live? Find out how long that guy lived. If you ever heard of, what was that guy when he died? 1856. Oh, he lived for a pretty good amount of time. Pretty decent amount of time. 84 to 72. Pretty decent amount of time. Everything. That's the ripe age for it. Back then too, when there's no fucking doctors, the doctors are all guessing. Yeah, and just come into your house. Right. And after another and he breaks your leg, they bust out of meat saw.

2:26:36Like wash my hand. They tie that fucking leg down and sort off at the hip. And you're screaming. You tell you to bite a piece of leather. That was a doctor back then. They thought germs didn't exist. Yeah, they were loo -listered. Dirty fingers. Pulling babies out. Everybody's dynosepsis. If you ever heard of a tarar, what's tarar? Tarar was a guy at T -A -R -R -A -R -E. I think. What's this, Jamie? He kind of discovered dinosaurs. Jeez. What? Same guy? Yeah. That ate everything? Yeah. Whoa.

2:27:10That's another fun one. Dynosures aren't real. That's a fun one. I can buy it to an extent because there are so many fakes. But the reality. In the early days of dinosaur research, there was two guys that were competing with each other and they were faking fossils. Yeah. That's true. But also, Dynosures are real. Yeah. Like that alligator gar. That's a fucking living dinosaur. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think you used to exist for sure. Well, some of the real big ones, they've never found one of those. They just find like a... Some stuff. They found some stuff and then they go, well, we think it probably looked like this based on its vertebrae looking like this.

2:27:51And when you go see the skeleton at a, you know, the parot museum or wherever, it's all fake. There's maybe one piece in there that's real. There are some kind of... I can get the skepticism behind that a little bit. But to say like, oh, the whole thing's like that there was no such thing as a dinosaur of that's bullshit. It seems silly that people would just lie openly about that. But there are some that are intact. Like they found some raptors intact. They found some stuff that's intact. I have a friend and his buddy found a fucking T -Rex in Montana. Completely intact. I don't know how much of it they found.

2:28:26They found quite a bit of it though. But a point where they brought in a professional excavation and they pulled out this big ass fucking T -Rex. In Montana. Could you imagine? But Montana used to be a part of the Great Inland Sea. There was a sea in that, there's like sea shells up there. Which is nuts. There's probably what like the badlands were. I mean, what was it called? There was like a particular name for like the great, there was a North American like Inland Ocean. Yeah. There's bananas, man. Ocean of America, yeah, that's a... And there's T -Rexes around it. Like that's... God. Imagine if there was like one point in the history, the Western interior seaway.

2:29:08Oh, so that's what it looked like. A large island inland sea that existed roughly over present day, great plains of North America. Wow. That. If there was a time that you could just look at that, look at what it looked like. It just looked like that's so nuts. So there's a... Yeah. And look at the Appalachians. Yeah. Like that's what America looked like. Florida was completely underwater. That's nuts. T -Mulsitexes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like where we are is like above water, but fuck, man. That's crazy how much water there was. Okay, there's a good... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most of all the Texas is...

2:29:40Yeah. It's a whole Texas. Oh my God. Yeah. Like Nevada's not... It Tulsa's alright. Yeah. They made it out. Massachusetts is okay. Yeah. That is crazy to see how big that was. Yeah, that's... And there's all kinds of nutty shit that was living in that water too, man. Jesus. Yeah. I mean, the gars, like the least of... That's like a menow compared to some of the shit that we've all heard there. It's a chicken compared to a great eagle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like a hostile eagle. The eagle's the hunted people in New Zealand. Yeah. That's so crazy to... Eagles jack people. Fuck, man. Yeah.

2:30:20They think that's why they went extinct. I hope they bring dinosaurs back. They probably are going to. Yeah. I mean, part of me is kind of against it, but then part of me is because Josh Parks is my favorite movie. So... They got a... The leather. Did you see the seven -minute -guys leather? T -Rex purse. Yeah, they're going to make T -Rex purses. I'm going to get a T -Rex fan -y pack. Cheesers. Sure. I mean, I'm going to rock that shit. Look, what more badass of a thing could there possibly be than a T -Rex fan -y pack? I know, right? T -Rex Crocs. Company claims leather made from 66 million -year -old dinosaur DNA is coming.

2:30:54Yeah, look. I think some people are very skeptical about this. We should probably say this is... One of the things that the guys from Colossal were telling me, the guys who resurrected the dire wolf, they were telling me Ben Lamb was telling me that when it comes to DNA of dinosaurs, they don't really have DNA of dinosaurs. It's too old. They don't have full DNA profiles, right? Or whatever you'd call it. But what they will be able to do is sort of engineer a dinosaur, which is even crazier. Take the surviving creatures, like chickens, should I like that, that have dinosaur because chickens are full on dinosaurs.

2:31:34Take their DNA and engineer a T -Rex out of that. Or a raptor. A raptor like way smarter than a crow. How about that? Like hunting people through the woods. Little five full fucking creepy super lizard. They can run 50 miles an hour. Clever girl. Yeah, that would be a... God, dude. I'd love it. I hope they do. They could do that. They're really... If they can take human beings and integrate them with Tartigrade DNA and have them become fucking superheroes, they can make a dinosaur. They made a... They made dire wolves. They made three of them. Which is insane. It's so crazy too. It's nuts. Like they exist.

2:32:15I think they're like 11 months old now or something like that. Oh, it's that. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. They don't... Ben Lamb told me he doesn't go around them anymore. He bottle fed them when they were puppies. But then when they got to a certain age, like, I think we're done. Like after like four or five months, like I think we're done. What was that, Jamie? The T -Rex DNA is 66 million years old. It dies the DNA to go away as soon as they die. And the oldest preserved DNA on record currently is only 2 million years old. Yeah. So it wouldn't be a T -Rex. So it wouldn't be a T -Rex, but they might be able to make exactly what we think a T -Rex was.

2:32:52But we would be really off because we don't know what their tissue looked like. That's where it gets really strange. Like all the stuff that wroughts away, have you ever seen like an artist depiction of what... They take a hippo skull? Like what an artist depiction what the animal could look like? No. They look like a monster. Oh yeah, yeah, they're crazy monsters. And then you see the reality. It's like, oh, hungry, hungry hippo, big ol' sweetie. Right. Hippo looks like a sweetie. What's cute little ears? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. But then artists have depicted it like if we didn't know what it looked like, maybe it looked like this.

2:33:25Right. You know? Yeah. You see that? That's crazy. The meme says, how aliens are reconstructed. So I... Oh, that's interesting. Still. Oh, okay. Yeah. So I have been in the middle. So I have been in the middle. But you could, like if you came from another planet and you saw this like, oh my god, this thing must have been a terrific looking beast. Yeah. Oh wow. The skull, how the aliens are reconstructed. And it's an elephant. Wow. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. About that's where the Cyclops myth comes from. Elephant skulls? Yeah. That actually makes per... I've never seen an elephant skulls. So I had no clue there was...

2:34:03Which is a sense. They have it. They hold? I don't even know if it's a... Where the trunk is. Yeah. I don't know if it's real. Yeah. I think it is, James. I mean, it makes sense because the trunk just goes right to the mouth. A has to where the Cyclops comes from. Has to be. Especially if you found a female one that didn't have to... It's almost close to... It's a thick, but... Bro. It's called In -Sp -Well, no. Would you say, Jamie? Every... I didn't even type in Cyclops and it was the first thing that was on top. Maybe it's because that's a theory that's been around for a long time. I have been noticing that.

2:34:35Yeah, look, it says that right there. Right there. Right there. The Cyclops is slightly inspired by opening them. I've been noticing this happen a lot. You'll be saying something. Did the government supposed to ring the first thing I'll type in? Well, they're helping us. It's all about completing what you just said. They're fans of the show, Jamie. It's all about... Yeah. But it makes sense. Yeah. I mean, if you found stuff from a lot... What do you think... Here's one that always gets me. Stores of giants. I want that to be real. So bad. I don't know how I want all of this. That the Smithsonian's been hiding the information.

2:35:04Those are the big things. Could be. Down their basement they've got like a 10 -foot tall human being. I think there was... A race of giants that existed. Rome the Earth. Yeah. David and Goliath's a real story. It just seems like they wouldn't be gone. They wouldn't be the ones that would have been killed off. Unless in the Cataclysm, like the younger Dryas Impact Theory, there wasn't enough food. Oh, right. And they died off. You know? Because if you're that big, you need to eat a lot. So you think they were around like way long ago. Way. Way long ago. Way long ago. Yeah. Yeah. But I think like...

2:35:40Yeah. It is...there's so many stories. And so many cultures have these stories, even in the Bible, of a race of giants. Yeah. Like it seems like it couldn't just be big people. Right. It seems like what they're talking about is something crazy. I guess it could be if you're just... Yeah. Because if you're just mythologizing, that's a word. But if you're just turning something that is real, this is like a dragon. You know, people obviously just get inspired by things that are around them. They start to morph into things. I mean, there was no fire -breathing animal flying around. Probably crocodiles and chillin' out.

2:36:14Yeah, crocodiles. And then there are, you know, like, cobras that spit venom, which obviously gets in your eyes. It's probably going to burn like a sum of it. So like, there's like the fire myth. And people exaggerate. Yeah. So except those ones, it seems like people will take somebody who is a big son of a bitch. And they go, oh, well, let's exaggerate and show that the guy he fought was nine feet tall. Right, right, right. Six foot five, which is what he was. Yeah. But also, when you talk about races of these giants, you could also be talking about like people from Iceland. Yeah. Like who were naturally big and tall.

2:36:46They were enormous fighting dudes. Yeah. Who were always win those fucking strongmen competitions. You know, those guys are just giants up there. Like 400, like the mountain from Game of Thrones. Like that kind of person. So you think about that. Yeah. That's that size human. Right. There could have been a bunch of those around. And maybe that's what they were talking about giants. Or there could have been like a specific race of humans. Like they keep finding these additional types of humans. Like they found Denisovans fairly recently. And then that other one that we brought up the other day, the big headed people.

2:37:19That's fairly recently. They've discovered that this is a completely different branch. That there may, I mean, but here's the thing. If they did find those, would they tell us? Like if archaeologist, like who would put the cap on that? If they found like a 10 foot human under like a gigantic dead human with a huge sword underground. Like, would they, would they just say we're wrong? Giants existed. Or would they go, people can't handle this. That's a tough, because that's the answer. That's the question for so many things. They might say people can't handle it. It's not outside the realm of possibility.

2:37:58I would say, yeah, they probably say. In that furiating. Yeah. Can you imagine if it was you. Now imagine you're out in West Texas, where we are hanging out with your friends. And somebody noticed something in the ground. And you start digging. And you pull out a fucking thigh bone that's this big. And you plop it down. And you go, what the fuck is that? And then you got a buddy who works at the university nearby. And he starts digging. And he's like, hey dude, this is a fucking human foot. And he pulls out a human foot that size 38. And you're like, what is going on, man? And so then you bring in some experts and like, holy shit dude, this is a giant.

2:38:35And then they do DNA tests. They find out it's a real, a real actual creature. Yeah. I'm telling everyone. Yeah. I mean, they're going to kill you. They're going to kill you. The scientists will kill you. They're going to run you out the road. Yeah, I guess. Look at this. All the longest, or I guess it would be the tallest. The people have ever found? That they've ever found. It was found in China. It's supposedly about 40, 400 years old. What had been about 16, 18 years old. The weird thing here is though that it says there was three drill holes found in the skull. And they don't know why. Low drill holes.

2:39:11How big was it? A six four. Oh. Well, back then, that was probably fucking huge. They said they found it in China. Yeah. That's a giant. And they're calling it, yeah, they call it. It might be Mongolian, you know. Well, I just looked up to the Chinese that are found. Right. They're probably like, holy shit. The science, there's anywhere from modern day, maybe they say up to six, six, but like taking in the word forward from the Bible, it had been about nine, nine. Yeah, that's where I was thought. Right, right. We know how to see a kid. Wait, sorry. Well, if you're back then, nobody had any food.

2:39:42And the average man was probably like five four. So if you encounter some dude who's six, six, some big jack guy, that is a giant. That's a giant. And then also like you got to think human beings, if they exist today and they're six, six, they had a potential to be that big back then. They just didn't get the food. Yeah. But if you are in some very nutrient rich environment. Yeah. Well, both those guys played pro basketball. Yeah. That's Nugsie. He is a Mugsie boat. Mugsie boats. But there's smaller people that exist that can function and do stuff. Oh, yeah, for sure. What's crazy is that the potential for a that guy, the Yao Guy, who's Heltolsey?

2:40:19That exists in the human genome, right? That's not like we engineered them like we did dogs. Right. Like that exists. Yeah. So maybe back then, if you had a ton of food and you didn't have to worry about war, like, and people just kept breeding and growing and getting nutrient rich. Because the thing about people in the past was they didn't need any fucking food, man. Yeah. Like the average size of a guy who fought in the Civil War was I think 125 pounds or something great buff of four and 120, I think. It's Nugsie. It's starving to death. It's like starving to shoot people with a musket or a girl.

2:40:52I mean, that's Nugsie. Right? And all they need is food. You know, you give them protein and then they grow normal sized. Which is really wild. Yeah. Because there's tons of people that are well over seven feet. It's not like it's, I mean, it isn't anomaly compared to every speaking of. There's one guy in the Civil War 760. He just stood out. Whoa. Everything that everybody else was 5 '8", average 5 '8". He was 7 foot 6 in the Civil War holy shit. Oh, that's not a picture of him. Yeah. But the thing about the stories in the Bible, though, it's like these are like mystical giants, the Nephilim, you know.

2:41:27Look at this guy. He's a tall, small smile. So he's, there you go. But you do not want to box that guy. 766. That's what she must be pretty tall. Yeah. I mean, she probably needed to do that big take care of her. Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah. She can be in this bottle for the eight guys. Yeah, she can be fucking amazing. What are you all doing? She'll hold me down. I have to fight that lady to the death. No chance. She's a big man. She's a big giant man, a fucker correctly. Yes. Yeah. But the stories from the Bible and the stories from like, you know, different, like even though like the ancient Samaritan, culture, like the name, they had the depictions of the Anunnaki and these big giant people.

2:42:05Like what was that? Like what is that all about? Like is that a story about a thing that used to be real or is it bullshit? Because it seems like the more we uncover with ancient history, just like Troy and probably Atlantis, the more you realize like none of it was bullshit. It was just their version of trying to tell you the story. Yeah. You know, and all this stuff about the Nephilim, the Anunnaki and all, there's probably there's some sort of a story. It's just parsing out what it really was after a thousand years of people just telling it before somebody writes it down. Yeah. That's, I think it's more just, yeah, you know, you're getting word of mouth over, so it was like such a long time.

2:42:47Yeah. And it's probably exaggerated from the jump. Because you're just trying to tell, trying to tell a story. Like creativity isn't a new thing. Right. People were always creative and always lying. Yeah, and always lying and always trying to like, exaggerate imagination, and ultimately to create some sort of allegory. Right. So I don't think any of it was true. I think it was all just, you know, I think it makes sense how it all got created. Now every culture has their own version. And to me, it's like an echo of the truth. It's like there's an echo there, like God, what was the original thing?

2:43:23What was it all about? Because like there's an echo to a lot of it, a lot of ancient stories and a lot of religious stories too. They're just like, man, I think something was going on. And I think this is the echo of like this historical depiction of probably something real that went down. Like the no in the arc story. I think that's a historical, that's a depiction of that flood that we saw that wiped out at Lannis. I mean, that's part of the epic of Gilgamesh's giant flood. I mean, that's the oldest story ever written. Yeah, we know of. I mean, and it's not the only one that depicts a massive flood.

2:44:04Yeah. Pretty much every religion that's that old has some story involving a flood. I think when you apply that to all the other stories too, you should probably assume that it wasn't fiction. It might not be accurate because of all the factors that we already laid out. Because of people. But it's probably the echoes of a real story. Well, the flood is, yeah, so I do think that because that's part of allegory is like taking something that is real and then you just make like almost a fairy tale out of it. Right. But like you still have the, because you're telling in that sense that you're like saving history.

2:44:42Like you're preserving history, but you're not doing it in the sense that we would, as we would do it now, where we would like dictate time and date and name. Right. You're just saying, oh, there was this great event that happened in your ancestors time. And if they figured this out, imagine if they figured out all these things thousands and thousands of years ago, then you have the flood, the impacts, society has to rebuild. And then you're telling these stories over and over and over and over after all this time. Yeah. That would kind of account for a lot of things. For sure. And one of them would be that God created the universe in six days.

2:45:14Yeah. Because like, what is the big bang? Right. What is six days? Like what are you saying? Like what does that mean? Is it just a short amount of time? Is that what we try to say? Is that like 72 virgins? Yes. You know, when they see 72 virgins in heaven, they don't really mean 72 virgins. It's like a fuck load. Yes. Like when you say God created the universe in six days, like, maybe that means, maybe that's the big bang. Like maybe you're literally talking about the birth of the universe. Yeah. In a very short period of time. Yeah. It could just shut. Boom! If the universe is infinite, it's been around forever.

2:45:47What is like that quick burst? What is that? Yeah. I mean, that's, yeah. That's a, I mean, that's how... If you were trying to recall that story. Right. You would say, yeah, on this day, this happened, this day, that happened. But ultimately, it's just day after day, after day, and then seven day you rest. And otherwise, yeah. Yeah. If you were trying to explain the birth of the universe that happened, that like, people were talking about it for thousands of years and then sort of wrote it down on clay tablets. Thousands of years later. These are just the memories of some ancient knowledge where people really had reached a level of sophistication that we could only imagine.

2:46:23Yeah. And they were just flatlined, right back to cave people again. Yeah. I mean, that's what, yeah, because like Greek mythology, all those mythology, it's like an actual birth. Like, there's, it all happens, starts with like, there's darkness, and then there's light. Yeah. And that's like a common theme with pretty much every religion, every mythologies. There was a sea of darkness, then there was light. And what if that's the version of the description of the Big Bang? Yeah. It's just turning on a light. But that's how you describe the Big Bang to someone who has no concept of science. Like, no idea.

2:46:55Like, what are you talking about? Yes. What, what molecules, subatomic particles? What the fuck are you even saying? Exactly. You'd be like, yeah, imagine walking into a dark room and flicking a light switch. And suddenly, everything's here. They're light. Yeah. I mean, that's the common theme throughout any of those religions. Yeah. Well, I think the appeal of like a page like yours and the kind of, that kind of things. Like, people always love to learn cool shit and interesting shit. Yeah. You know, other interesting shit about the universe or UFOs or crazy people throughout history. God, I wrote outlaw Josie Wells being a piece of shit.

2:47:30Like, I mean, the KKK is just not good. They aren't big enough assholes. We want such a good movie. It sucks. Yeah, it is. I mean, yeah, it's not like you can't watch the movie, but you got to separate the man from the art always. And then also, there's a bunch of other influences I'm sure where they wrote the script and changed a bunch of things. Yeah. No, people love learning shit. You just got to make it interesting. Yeah. School, I hated school, but I had a couple teachers that made it interesting. And I loved every day going to those classes. Every other class could get fucked. I was trying to skip.

2:48:03I was trying to do whatever I could to get out of there. Yeah. It's how it is. It's like enthusiasm of the teacher. So important. And the competency of the teacher, so important. It makes, like I had a teacher, Mr. Simmons, a high school history teacher. And every day would tell like a story kind of similar to that, like, or not every day, but every day before like a big test. That's how he started off. Like, clear your minds. Like, don't worry about this test. Like, I'm going to tell you some, and he had like this real deep like booming voice. It was like the most fascinating shit ever. And he would just, he would just tell this story.

2:48:35They had nothing to do with the test. It doesn't matter. Like, he's like, this is just interesting. Like y 'all would like this. That's great. Those people are so important. I mean, that's, yeah, that guy probably inspired me to do all kinds of like more broadening. Yeah. It didn't. It took until I was long out of school before I really started getting interested in learning things. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I didn't start really just diving into shit until after school. Like I felt like all the way through school, through college, you know, got my degree and all that. I don't think I learned a damn thing.

2:49:06I learned that college was a waste of time. That's it. You learn how to get some student debt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's all I mean, I didn't want to fucking thing about it for many of that. But they'll tell you that that's the only way to go. No. Which is just like, how do you know we're in space? Yeah. But this is crazy. Like the people in the 1900s figured it out forever. Can't be approved upon. Are you fucking sure? Yeah. It's, it's crazy, man. Well, listen, brother. Really fun talking to you. Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. I really appreciate your channel. It's very fun. And now you know.

2:49:39Mind -blowing stories from history and pop culture. Cody Tucker. Out now. Really fun talking to you, brother. Let's do it again sometime, Ab. All right. Thanks, sir. Thank you. Bye, everybody.

2:50:03I think the appeal of like a page like yours and the kind of, that kind of things. Like people always love to learn cool shit and interesting shit. Yeah. You know, other interesting shit about the, the universe or UFOs or crazy people throughout history. God, I wrote outlaw Josie Wells being a piece of shit. Like, I mean, the KKK is just not good. They aren't big enough assholes. We want such a good movie. It sucks. Yeah. It is. I mean, yeah, he's not like you can't watch that. I'm a movie, but you got to separate the man from the art always. And then also there's a bunch of other influences. I'm sure they wrote the script and changed a bunch of things.

2:50:42Yeah. No, people love learning shit. You just got to make it interesting. Yeah. School, I hated school, but I had a couple teachers that made it interesting. And I loved every day going to those classes. Every other class could get fucked. I was trying to skip. I was trying to do whatever I could to get out of there. Like, just how it is. It's like enthusiasm of the two. The teacher is so important. And the competency of the teacher is so important. It makes, like I had a teacher, Mr. Simmons, a high school history teacher. And every day would tell like a story kind of similar to that. Like, or not every day, but every day before like a big test.

2:51:16That's how he started off. Like, clear your minds. Like, don't worry about this test. Like, I'm going to tell you some, and he had like this real deep like booming voice. It was like the most fascinating shit ever. And he would just, he would just tell this story that had nothing to do with the Ted. It doesn't matter. Like, this is just interesting. Like, y 'all would like this. That's great. Those people are so important. I mean, that's, yeah, that guy, like probably inspired me to do all kinds of like more broad and, yeah, it didn't. It took until I was long out of school before I really started getting interested in learning things.

2:51:45Yeah, yeah. I mean, I didn't start really just diving into shit until after school. Like, I felt like all the way through school, through college, you know, got my degree and all that. I don't think I learned a damn thing. I learned that college was a waste of time. That's, that's a lot of the way to go. You learn how to get some student debt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I mean, I didn't want to fucking thing about it for many of that. But they'll tell you that that's the only way to go. No. Which is just like, how do you know we're in space? Yeah. But this is crazy. Like the, the people in the 1900s figured it out forever.

2:52:19Can't be approved upon. Are you fucking sure? Yeah. It's, it's crazy, man. Well, listen, brother, really fun talking to you. Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. I really appreciate your channel. It's very fun. And now you know, mind blowing stories from history and pop culture, Cody Tucker, out now, really fun talking to you, brother. Let's do it again sometime. Abs. All right. Thanks, sir. Thank you. Bye, everybody.