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Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2323 with Guy Fieri
Episode Overview In this episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," host Joe Rogan welcomes renowned restaurateur and television personality Guy Fieri. Fieri discusses his career in the culinary world, his television success, and his philanthropic efforts. The conversation touches on various themes, including the nature of celebrity, the food industry, and societal issues.
Key Themes and Discussions
Guy Fieri's Culinary Journey
- Transition from Chef to Television Star: Fieri shares anecdotes about his initial foray into television, including his early work on Food Network Star which led to the creation of his popular show, Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives.
- Early Influences: Fieri reflects on the impact of his family environment on his culinary journey, including the lack of formal culinary education and the importance of hands-on experience.
- Brand Development: He discusses the creation of his brand, Knuckle Sandwich, which encompasses various culinary ventures, and emphasizes the importance of having a unique identity.
Food and Culture
- Passion for Real Food: Fieri emphasizes the need for people to appreciate and consume real food, advocating against processed diets and for healthier eating habits.
- Culinary Philanthropy: Fieri talks about his philanthropic work, particularly focusing on first responders and veterans, and his commitment to giving back to the community through food.
Societal Observations
- Personal Responsibility and Engagement: Fieri discusses the importance of individual responsibility in fostering community values and engaging positively with societal issues.
- Impact of Social Media: The conversation explores the effects of social media on self-perception among youth, including the allure of fame versus the reality of hard work.
Insights on Life and Success
- Critical Thinking and Imagination: Fieri advocates for teaching critical thinking skills to nurture young minds and prevent them from getting lost in societal pressures.
- Value of Authenticity: The discussion highlights the importance of authenticity in both personal and professional life, encouraging listeners to stay true to themselves.
Key Takeaways
- Authenticity in Branding: Fieri's success is rooted in his genuine passion for food and his willingness to stay true to himself, leading to a relatable and authentic brand.
- The Power of Food: Food serves not only as sustenance but also as a means of connection and community engagement, reinforcing the idea that culinary experiences can foster relationships.
- Philanthropy: Fieri’s philanthropic efforts exemplify the importance of using personal success to uplift others in the community, particularly those who serve and protect.
- Critical Engagement with Society: The episode encourages a critical approach to societal issues, fostering a mindset focused on positive changes and community involvement.
Conclusion Guy Fieri’s appearance on "The Joe Rogan Experience" provides listeners with an engaging look into the world of food, television, and the responsibilities of celebrity. His views on philanthropy, authenticity, and societal engagement resonate throughout the conversation, making it a thought-provoking episode for fans of culinary arts and beyond.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03I The Joe Rogan experience Nucle sandwiches a sandwich shop in Austin I heard about it today. It's legit my pilot my pilot calls me and says Yeah, someone's got your brand out there. I'm like what's it called he goes Nucle sandwiches my go figure well But I hear an off -air is good stuff. Yeah, it's real good Some mission start what's it? We spoke oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything goes in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you want to do So that it's don't shoot heroin on camera. I think we're gonna be able to pass out So what's happening man, how are you well? There we go I got one thanks I Really appreciate the invite my pleasure.
0:57This is This is a long time coming. I've been waiting for this. Yeah, oh, yeah, I mean Especially all the influence you've had and things you've done and I know the funny side I know that you have seaside of you But watching the podcast and seeing all the characters and I was just watching the Bill Murray Interview the other day and I just look at I go man to hear those stories talking about Hunter and Just all that and all the stuff. I mean just it's pretty You got to have your mind blown by now Yeah, my mind's been blown out It's kind of overblown at this point. It's huge Yeah, I mean, I think about what you did with Trump and all that influence that you made and you you call it straight up the line You want to come on the show?
1:41You want to do this? Let's do it and Took the time to do it. I think it was a huge impact I think that we look at all the people that you've given a chance you've given them a platform And I think that's really it's fair of you in the way you interview the way I see it from you know Doing a few interviews you let people talk you let them speak their piece you continue to Help them through not getting stuck on one thing and navigate in pretty well and It's really I mean it's from a guy that's you know in the business not to this level But guys in the business. It's it's respectful man. Thank you.
2:16Thank you very much What is knuckles sandwich business? You even have a your chain is a knuckles sandwich. It's all it's all has history Just kind of like as I towards the museum today chef's hat with a skull started with that tattoo one of the first tattoos I've ever had the culinary gangster So my buddy Joe Leonard monkey wrench tattoo great friend of mine did my first tattoo and He made that he says I have this drawing for you. I want to show this to you and That's pretty you know skull Chef let me check it out So I don't put a tattoo on until he draws it on first I have to have it on for a while like I have to look at it for a couple days like died Does this resonate with me?
2:55So that's how it started this way before TV way before any of this and When I got on TV when I got on food network They're gonna send me my first paycheck. You wouldn't believe how much I made that first episode I mean just huge money $1 ,250 You know when you get started and I wasn't planning on TV But anyhow I came back and had all my buddies around my table my house was kind of like a soup kitchen All my buddies you know come by and someone will bring you know crab someone will bring some state or whatever and Some sitting with all my buddies and I said hey, I got a think of a name for my TV like my other business because my restaurant business had a business partner and I didn't want the checks to come to the business I said what do you what do you think my one buddy dirty says?
3:36My nicknames Guido is a great. He says how about you make a something deep and that'll give us like some food for knowledge and then And I said you know and I'm serious. I want to come up with a name for the company I'm gonna get this I get my $1200 check sent to me and I go hey dirty How about I give you a knuckle sandwich and he goes that'd be a good name That's it that was it was it was originally that it was originally a Sandwich with a ring on it and a sandwich made out of money and that was knuckle sandwich And then it just kind of all that evolved from there and so all my companies go into the brand of knuckle sandwich I never put a product of wine or tequila or anything I ever did and we started making these cigars and this guy that I'm partners with is such a such a guru guy named Eric Espinoza and We sat there and talked about it and I have another brand called Flavor Town Like Flavor Towns to whims of cool and to you know It's got to be something.
4:33I didn't want to call Guy Fietty You know, I didn't want to have my name on it I don't want to do stuff that like buy this because it's my you know, it's my name. I just want to do something then you know and we all thought about it We said two hours are that good and he's such a badass. It's called Michael's I did you have any idea in the beginning of your career of being a TV guy like how did how did all that stuff start? Because it's a weird world, you know, I had a conversation with Jose on dress about this I want it the the the emergence of the celebrity chef is like fair I mean used to be like Julia child like way way back in the day She's and then just one yeah, yeah, and then I guess there's a few other people But they they never were like cultural figures.
5:17I guess Julia child was she was probably the only one I don't know she was really it right yeah, that was PBS You know that was PBS that wasn't people really Blowing it up. I mean I watched it because I loved that I was in love with food is at a young age I mean I was just one because I didn't really experience and like exactly that my parents are feeding me my parents are really Good cooks they weren't in the cooking business, but um But yeah, this whole food thing I had before I got in food network I had never watched the food network and not because I don't believe in it I mean foods my epicenter what I do But the last thing I was gonna do working seven days a week 12 13 15 hours a day in the restaurant Come on and watch more food is come on watch somebody make me, you know a pop -py I'm like I got enough plus I also didn't really have a true understanding of what was going on new who emeral was I mean you couldn't Or you know the one you remember when he had that sitcom he where he is his tagline bam Like they decided to try to put that into a sitcom.
6:15We just had that conversation the other day Yeah, we just had that conversation, but emeral's the OG I give such Appreciation and accolades to everybody that did it before me There were so many people that helped pave the way in one style of another and some TV some literary some You know just living the you know keeping the energy of the industry alive because if you're not from the industry You don't quite exactly get what it is But it's a pretty it's like understanding UFC You know the bigger fan you become of something the more you start looking at it and just going It is so much more than what you're watching in the ring for the you know next 20 minutes It's really deep and there's so much more and there's so much such as lifestyle it's attitude it's energy.
7:01It's Connectivity it's family it's community. It's all that kind of stuff and So did you like how does one go from being a chef to being a TV chef like what was it? Did you just get an audition like did they contact a bunch of chefs like who's got the wackiest hair and who looks like they would be good on TV Like how do they how do they figure something like that? America's beverage companies are investing in America We're American companies making American products with American workers in America's hometowns We're local bottlers and manufacturers operating in all 50 states employing more than 275 ,000 Americans in good paying jobs Delivering for the nation because we believe in the promise of America and the people who make it great learn more We deliver for America dot org paid for by the American beverage association This episode is brought to you by the farmers dog We all want to do the best for our dogs, but there's a lot of mixed messaging out there Especially around dog food take kibble for example You don't have to do a lot of digging to learn that kibble is actually ultra processed They put the words like premium on their bag next to pictures of real ingredients, but food doesn't end up as Burnt down pellets without extreme processing for decades It was the default dog food, but not anymore The farmers dog is healthy food made with real meat and vegetables by people who care about what goes into your dog's body The recipes are developed by board certified nutritionists to be complete and balanced and their food is made to the same Safety standards as human food It's lightly cooked to retain vital nutrients and then it's pre -porsh to suit your dogs needs So try the farmers dog today and get 50 % off your first box of healthy Freshly made food plus free shipping just go to the farmers dog dot com slash rogan Tap the banner or visit this episodes page to learn more the offer is for new customers only And out this is about the most wack story in the world so All right, so never graduate high school Dropped out high school when I was 16 went to France.
9:15It was an exchange student I'm gonna give you a little bit more of the backstory than you probably want But I'll kind of give you the you know the quick version So when I got it when I came back from France, I was supposed to go to my senior year in high school And I wasn't really super interested in going back to high school I just lived in France and a boarding house and went to high school and I didn't even speak French But my parents were really open -minded and I'd saved my money and they said if you can pass a year of French at the junior college at 16 And you can pass the class and you can figure it out, I guess So I went and lived in a boarding house and went to high school came back my senior year I just was not interested in going back to high school.
9:47So I went to junior college Finished junior college went to UNLV got my degree graduated a little bit early and went and ran restaurants for other people And then and I was 26 Move back to the wine country up to northern California where I'm from open my first restaurant Had a bunch of restaurants to the buddy things were great did exactly what I wanted to want to be you know Have great wife want to be a great dad Want to have my own restaurant. That's all I wanted not that I was short -sighted and stuff like big big community person Want to do a lot of you know community service and so forth my parents for that way so That was it man.
10:21I had like three restaurants a couple hot rods a Bob -Mont house I was living it, you know and At bunch of friends came up to me actually a kid across the street came me said he watched food network I said no so we have a show on there Called the food network star you should go on that show I didn't even see food. I saw Rachel Ray one time I was at a barns I'll Rachel Ray on screen and I'm like hey girls got energy. I mean listen to her and she could talk food. She did she doesn't know her shit so That was whatever Not even six eight months later my wife's driving home from the city She says hey, I was just listening to the radio station.
10:57They have that food network star show going on Because you'd be great in that how do you know you know him seeing the show? She's nothing just talking about it like you know the culinary challenges and all the things and then if you do it you want to show Well, I want to show for you know Do you want what I'm not been on TV. I made my own TV commercials for my restaurant That was the only thing I ever did those teeth so none of it was appealing when they contacted you and they asked you I wouldn't say it wasn't appealing it just wasn't in my scope right, you know It wasn't your plans wasn't like something I was seeking you know, we had talked about it There's been many people had come to me before and said like my buddy that was the was the Marketing manager for Flowmaster remember flowmasters the mufflers.
11:40Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, sure So he came to me and said you should do a hot rod show you love hot rods is to a hot rod show What the I mean I know enough to be dangerous, you know about hot rods I mean I know just enough to get into the conversation where I bury myself and So that was that and so anyhow the show they see make a make a three -minute pitch So all my buddies like you know got to make the pitch got to do thing got to do thing and I avoided it any way I could and To the point where it had expired like the entry time it expired so My buddy my buddy named mustard. He's on we're on a barbecue team together.
12:18I did competition barbecue and all kinds of crazy shit and He says you ever send that demo tape into the food network and I said no, I just missed that window And he goes good. I thought you're gonna say that he says because they open it back up. There's another week He says let's go make that. I'm like, I don't want to do this He's like don't be you know you always push ever you know This is the truth because I push all my friends and like open your own business go on that vacation have kids You know, I'm always the one that's kind of you know go live your best life and So I got to walk my talk lastly, I wanted to do so honestly is go on TV and Because I never went to culinary school, you know, I just been cooking through my you know That's my career and so what I did as a passion and living in France You open up a restaurant without ever going to culinary school.
13:04Yeah, is that unusual? I think it's probably 60 40 oh really yeah 60 40 that go to school 60 go to school That's a lot that don't though. I could really be off on that when I do diner strivings and dives 70 60 percent don't go a lot of the mom and pops Mm -hmm and that doesn't mean that they don't learn I mean some of the best chefs I know Haven't been to culinary school and just are super smart at learning and dig in a lot of education a lot of research a lot of trial and error a lot of A lot of putting yourself out that you got to be willing to fail Like I don't really think you'd be a good cook if you're not willing to fail.
13:43I mean if you're just if you stay in your lane so much I just think that you get better chances to let's think about fighting you know think about things You've learned all the education in martial arts and boxing and all these different perspectives that people take to to be in it It's usually the one that has a pretty good, you know narrow focus on something I really really love but then having that outside perspective so for me as a chef Having the ability to understand Indian food, you know, there's such a depth there that I'll never hit the bottom You'll never touch all the opportunities that there are but yeah, so back to that I I made the demo tape and I made it so ridiculous That there's no way there's just no way they were gonna pick me What'd you do in the demo tape?
14:29Do you have it? Do you guys I think you find online? It's I can't believe I just told you You guys already have got to be up. I didn't say you up. Did you really get it? Just pulled it up. Hey, but you pulled up that fastest No McCountie, California, home of true wine country cuisine Today I'm gonna prepare a dish for you not in not infusion, but in confusion I'm gonna do a Gorgonzola tofu Sausage terrain that we served over a mildly poached ostrich egg now since we're in the wine country I'll be serving that on on grape nuts and done with a delicious pickled herring moose right on top and Who I know delicious it sends shivers up my spine No seriously folks real food for real people that's the idea see it's all getting messed up people are trying to take Everything off the shelf and jam it on to a plate and that's not what it has to be I learned how to cook that a survival my parents are going through this macro biotic cooking in the late 70s And I had enough bulgar and steamed fish to kill a kid So the idea in our family was whoever made the dinner got to decide what it was gonna be and being an Italian descent Pasta was always one of the keys.
15:35I went and studied in France and then came back and got my degree at University of Nevada Las Vegas and restaurant administration Been a district manager in Los Angeles and moved up here to northern California to open up three different concept restaurants What I like to talk to you about and what I think I could do as a food network host is teach people about real food Real people get it to the basics great product great equipment great ideas See anybody can read a cookbook anybody can come up with a simple idea But the idea is bringing it to the table. I take people's Imaginations and put them on the plate.
16:06Let me show you one of my favorite I was on my way back from Houston where I was down there. Can't believe you're making me go through this Sorry And mix it into Japanese cooking see in Japanese sushi does not mean raw fish And that's what people think it does it means seasoned rice So I take a little bit of seasoned rice a little bit of smoke pork, but and we put this together here In a dish with a little of our American favorite french fries and mix this together with a little bit of the California favorite Some avocado and I came up with this idea and as I was doing this and buddy came around the corner He says we don't what are you doing?
16:42He says you can't put that into rice You can't make sushi out of barbecue What are you doing your jackass? And that's what this dish is called. It's actually called the jackass roll So we mix it up. We serve it over The idea about cooking is not just about great food It's about putting all the pieces do you have a sharp knife do you understand sanitation do you know where to get it from and do you know how to tie all the Compliments together you see my idea about it is is there is so much more to teach as a restaurant to our people ask me all the time How do you do it? I can take the restaurant and bring it to the home and I think that would be something that would be sellable My name's guy Fieri my friends call me grito.
17:18You can now consider me your friend Why do you think that would be ridiculous? That seems pretty straightforward It What's about a jammy oh you switches fucking up again Oh, you got reboot again. Go ahead reboot. No worries. Okay, okay That seems pretty straightforward. I don't know why you would think that that would somehow or another like that I was taking it seriously. I wasn't taking it seriously. Yeah, the whole beginning line was that's a TV personality That's like yeah, I listen. I had one. I didn't want to take that was it Here we go see guys happy shit's done I don't know why you would think that that would be something they would never pick you from why didn't know back then what I know about TV now So you thought you had to be like super professional Right I thought if I talk some shit and I got him a to the joke and I told him what do they do?
18:15You know, I thought like I'll be so you know I mean that is pretty true to who I am anyways 2005 Yeah, yeah, two yeah, two we shot in 2005 first showed an air to 2006, but um Yeah, so I send it to him and I sent it on a DVD Because my buddy that filmed it worked at the TV station and he put it he burned it from the camera and put on DVD back in the old days So I sent it in I said I did my deal. I said I would do it. I did it. So it gets in What three days later Late at night 10 o 'clock at night Lori and I are sitting my wife and I sit on the couch watching TV home phone rings She goes now she's from Rhode Island some North Providence.
19:05So she's a little bit tough on the phone at 10 a 10 p .m You know like who's calling at 10 p .m. Now I don't know where he is Now he's not here. I'll take a message No, yes, no she finally covers the phone. She goes It's a food network Bullshit food network. It's one of my buddies me at a jerk off So I pick up the phone. I go, hello food network And they said this guy Ferrari And I'm like, okay, I know it's not because it was one of my buddies. They would have said, you know fiendy So she goes um, yeah, we got your DVD and we like to talk to you about it We want you to be on the show. I said, okay, what does that entail?
19:42Well, there's a contract. They'll be on your door tomorrow morning We fed x2 So I get the FedEx and uh I look at it and I give it to one of my attorney buddies like man they own your ass If you sign this like an own you So he read line to bunch and I said it back to him They call me back and they said you can't read line the contract that we're sending you This is like you want on the show or you don't want on the show? What is like when you say the own you look What do you mean? Oh, he says you know how a contract goes when you get into TV? I mean there's like you know We've got you for 36 months.
20:11You can't do any other production Whatever this 36 months. I don't know. I didn't don't quote me on any of it. All I know is I had never signed an entertainment contract At that point. Yeah, so a lot of them are pretty predatory Yeah, take advantage of the person it doesn't have any exposure if you're gonna become a star They want a profit massively off it and So that's where it kind of my guy said to me goes you have your own restaurants You're doing your own thing. What are you doing? What are you getting on TV? Right? And so long story short I went Lori and I were pregnant eight and a half months He were pregnant too.
20:43Yeah, well, that's what I call it. I held the baby weight Um, but we were you know, we're pregnant. We got the kid coming. We hunter was four. No, Hunter was Did you name after Hunter Thompson? Yes, I did Did you know that or you just say that? No, I didn't know that. Oh, that's 100 % I was I because I saw all the Hunter Thompson in all way And I saw the Bill Murray interview um I read fear and loathing auspegas. I don't read a lot But I read that book probably five times. That's a great book Such a great book and when I got out of college I lived in a town. I didn't know anybody lived in Long Beach I didn't know anybody just worked at this restaurant and Not a big TV person So I just read the book and I read it in college and I read it again I read it again and it's funny when you read something again I got that from the Dale Carnegie book.
21:30I read Dale Carnegie and you know, you have to read it a hundred times or how many times um I just like man This guy owns it. This guy lives it. This guy just you know, what a character And then the more you read about him and the more you kind of learn about him and so I told my wife so we have hunter and rider riders freshman and San Diego State 100 just graduated with his MBA at University Miami. That's awesome. Yeah, that's where honor came from. That's great. Yeah Thank you and my nephew Jules who's in the middle of the two we raised Jules my sister died When Jules was really young and so Jules just is graduating this Sunday with his degree From Loyola in law.
22:07Oh, he's in um EDM music. He's an agent. Oh cool. So anyhow, I got on the show. I got there Everybody standing there buttoned up in their chef codes. I walked in and I mean I'm in New York never in New York I mean flip flops and shorts and a yellow leather jacket and I walk in and everybody's like, you know All puckered and I'm like, oh, this is not gonna go well This is gonna be a shit show and I just said, you know what? You got to give it a shot So I just went in. I was just me did what I do I won so I won the show and what this show what you win is a six episode cooking show Which they ran at 7 a .m.
22:48on Saturdays. I mean it was a worst -time slot in the world But they gave me the show and I did good and they gave me another show And I did the show and I hated it. I did the pilot and I hated it and I'm like I can't do this What was that show it's called got to get it I don't think you're gonna find you're not gonna find this. They'll find it. No, Jesus, please. I don't think it was never aired So what it was it was a show it was a show about it was a show about um Kitchen gadgets and I'm not a kitchen gadget chef Oh, so it's like you got to get one of these Quies and arts it wasn't even that good.
23:27I mean it was like avocado slicer. I'm like you can't slice an avocado. Don't eat it You got a problem but it was a cool one there was a oven that talked Bluetooth to your phone and that was way before Bluetooth stuff was really going on There was a two -stroke Weed eater more with a blender on it and that was the coolest one I made margaritas in that and so anyhow But the the one they gave me that sucked the worst or the one that I wasn't and excited was they gave me a ball like a hamster ball Oh, I'm gonna run around the house But you'd pour cream and vanilla and sugar and all this in a ball and then throw ice cubes in it and then you'd roll the ball around kick it around And it would roll and it would make ice cream Okay, man kind of fun.
24:11Yeah So not for a guy that has a sushi barbecue restaurant and you know how long is it telling your ice cream by kicking a ball? I don't know if it too long is yeah, I was thinking I was thinking that's fun But then I thought no how much time go kick it with your influx. So I did the whole thing and they called me a couple You know weeks later and they said congratulations the show got picked up for 13 episodes prime time My god, I got it. I gotta be honest with you. I'm not gonna be able to do that show like what Like nine. I just it's not so they went through a series of people like executive and executive from production company The owner of the production company yelling at me telling me wasted on some time and his money I said hey nobody told me that if this guy picked up I had to go do the show I thought it was a discovery for you a discovery from me.
24:59I don't I don't know shit from steak sauce about what's going on How this all works which I quickly turned that I was not gonna be inside of the TV business and not be really aware what goes on so Finally the president network called me and she said you're burning a huge opportunity Brooke Johnson you're burning a huge opportunity I said Brooke It's all about to me about authenticity I said I don't need the paycheck and I don't need I said I'm happy with my life. I love what I do I like my cooking show called guys big bite You know cook food the way I want call it what I want to call it make it the way I want to make it And I said I just don't me and gadgets for cooking is just not a thing.
25:36She was we might not ever get a shot like this again I said I really appreciate the opportunity and I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I just don't want to do it And she said okay And that was it but fortunately six months later if you can't they call me back and said we're gonna be one more shot You're gonna be a food critic. I said no. Thank you. I can hold on. Hold on. Why not? I said I'm not a food critic. I'm a cook Last thing I'm gonna do is go in and tell people they're doing it right and are wrong That's like someone going and telling somebody they don't like their their arts wrong bullshit.
26:09That's not my style So they said well okay, it's not that. It's not that you go around This was the keyword you go around to mom and pop joints and You just eat the food and talk to the people I got I can do that's my style. I said what's it called Diners drivers dives and dines. I said what they couldn't get the name right No one ever gets diners drivers and dives right that's what we call triple D all the time I said I could do that. I could do that. That sound like dives. I love dives I don't know a lot about diners because we don't have many of them on the west coast and Drivins. I love that was always special to me to go to the a and w driving when I was a kid Make we didn't eat fast food when I was a kid So when you went there that was like big big deal, you know and That's all I got?
26:56Well Interesting. Yeah, it seems like it's hard to find because Once they started making personalities out of chefs Then you have to find authentic personalities who are good on TV that are actually cooks So it's kind of a little bit of a dilemma because Shaps aren't necessarily the kind of people that you want to have in front of the camera for the most part I deal with a lot of them. Yeah, but you know what I think that everybody when you get people comfortable as you know You get people comfortable you get them talking about themselves you get them in a zone where they Feel good and they relax It's very similar.
27:37It's what you do here. I mean, I watch it's people have a gift of Storytelling or have history and what can people talk best about themselves? Whether history or their passion and That's what I did with triple D as I just went in. I remember the first one we ever shot I'm staying there talking to the guy about thinking I'm pouring coffee by my back people are bitching at the counter because we're in right in the middle of an active service in the diner I'm pouring coffee and pancakes burning and I flipped the guys pancake and I'm like so well how long have you been making the you know Yeah, I mean honestly he needs an order back, you know And I asked all my questions I was supposed to ask And the producer at the end goes cut cut cut cut So what came here?
28:17What the hell was that? I said Well, it's slow your roll bro. I said I asked every question asked me to ask I said I didn't stay there doing like PM magazine You know I was in the mix with the dude, but I asked all the guy didn't questions And he's like he do that again. I said to stand on my head. This is what we do in the restaurant business I said we work and we talk and we joke and we laugh and we bus balls and we do you know that's what we do If those are clipboard on the ground we've got to hit And then we went around the country for the next three weeks and shot more locations and put that together into the pitch So on our side was he pretending to be upset or was he upset until you explain that to him?
28:55He was the kind of upset guy So fun. What did it work out? That's the problem with TV dealing with upset people Well, and the thing is is especially people that don't understand TV. So when I started triple D I just treated my fellow chefs restaurant owners like We were in the kitchen have fun. I tell them all time. I want you to say whatever you want to say If you want to drop 50 f bombs If you cut you say if you drop thing on the floor if you shit god damn it. It's not right. Don't worry We'll stop We'll fix it. We'll go forward, but I'm never gonna make you look bad I promise you have never make you look bad.
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29:30You look great Sometimes we stop I go hold it. Let's hold up. Let's hold up What do you drink? Jack we get him a shot at jack please You know sit there and shoot the shit about his favorite team or talk about it's you I always start talking about people's family right off the bat talk about the family Kind of puts people on the same playing field Hmm Not a game just for the reality. No, I understand I get it Well, that sounds like a fun thing to just drive around and Go to people's restaurants and see how they do things and see the history behind it and what was their dream How satisfying is it to have this place and usually you meet the people that are just I mean bring tears to your eyes.
30:16There's so many stories so many We've done like almost 1600 locations and It's just Mind blowing to be in the restaurant business and to watch these people what they've put into it and how many Sacrifices they've made and then how many success stories we hear and it's just It is probably one of the most fulfilling things I've ever done in my life You know, it's really I would have been done by now. I had it not I mean a matter of when we first started the show I thought oh this would be fun to do for a couple years. I'll probably run out of places Is this show could live on forever how many years you've been doing it now 16 16 years that's crazy.
30:58Yeah That's crazy, but it does some great things for him. I'm sure it's great for their businesses, right? You know, it must be a huge boom. We're shooting right now. We're shooting down right now. You know, Austin. Yeah, we just shot this morning We're just shoot shot a place called the Bolton Creek Cafe vegan joint and I shouldn't even say it like that. I should just say Bolton Creek Cafe in awesome restaurant No, you should say vegan You should let everybody know why say but here's the thing I think when I say vegan people like oh, so you kind of got to give them their shot. No, I wasn't thinking that I was just thinking You know, I have some vegan friends that they only want to eat a vegan restaurant.
31:41I would take them there It's so good. I just go eat there as it is and that's what I when I interview people of vegan restaurants or vegetarian restaurants I'll say do your non vegan vegetarian friends come here or I'll ask people usually 50 % of them that I'm talking to aren't vegan They just go there because the food's great This is a vegetarian place that I just love to go to in Woodland Hills that was a Indian joint like super authentic Indian It was in this little strip mall and I'd go in there and every other menus in You know Hindi everybody was speaking It was you didn't you kind of look at the photos that they had of the dishes and just like that one Give me that one so it's all all vegetarian all but like super authentic And you know, that's not even necessary what I'm interested in but I would go there all the time I want to eat great food.
32:35Yeah, it's prepared correctly. Yeah So it's kind of like saying I didn't mean to throw the vegan thing on it because really what it is it's about great restaurants With really great people that own it or people that have a good story and then people that want to talk about what the food They talk about what they do did you ask them why they decided to make a vegan restaurant? She's vegan And she had a coffee shop started with a coffee shop and then was doing a little bit of food on the side and then Just continued to grow and make it bigger and bigger so funny. I drive up and they got a big neon that says caffeine dealer I'm like that's my kind of energy.
33:15That's my kind of smart -ass. You got to have fun with yourself. You got to laugh about this shit and Just great character. I'm actually probably getting my ask here from the network right now going through telling about this at a time But no, there's great you know, I haven't been Austin a few years shooting triple D, but I'll come back to a city And new places have popped up or we start to find out more about them. Have you been a Travis Barker's place? Yeah, I've heard that place is phenomenal and that's a fully vegan place in LA It's what's it called crossroads cafe? Yeah, I've heard from many of my friends like Dana White went there He's like dude, it's phenomenal.
33:51You you can't believe it's vegan That's the thing about it is people have this stereotype about vegan food for good reason Ah You and I like listen you and I like wild game you and I like meat and so forth But if you really look about it, you're well, there's just enough vegan people that are really annoying That I won't disagree. There's enough that are wonderful people. No, that's wrong But there's a there's a percentage of vegan people that are like hugely annoying well and especially when they start Don't here's a thing. Don't proselytize it. Yeah, don't pro don't push yourself into somebody else's lane Do what you want to do and do what you love, but don't go and don't I'm not into preaching I'm not into trying to change have your opinion have your attitude The problem with the whole vegan thing is that the people they Represent themselves as morally superior and no, and it's not all of them some of them do it just because they're kind people And that's what they want to eat.
34:43That's wonderful But I think that happens in a lot of different of course sections. I mean, there's people about heavy metal You know, like heavy metal you're an idiot Exactly. I'm in that with yoga. They just start doing yoga. They want everybody to yoga. Yeah, I get it Well, I'll tell you a funny story I was running restaurants down in Long Beach and then I was in Redondo Beach And running a little restaurant down there called Luices Tiny little pasta joint Pizza and pasta and there was a bunch of them in LA at the time and then I eventually became the district manager form But um and I was young.
35:18I was very young in my career But um always grace used to come in the Gracie family was right down the street in Redondo Beach and I remember somehow through a manager to one of the guys. We got a UFC videotape VHS Someone had I don't know what it was. I'd never seen it. I didn't even heard of it and That was the first time that we ever came aware to You know this and then uh, who was it tank Abbott was down in Huntington Beach And we used to go down I used to live by Huntington So we used to go down there in the tank Abbot thing in the teedor thing. You know this whole thing But you know, I mean, you're so ingrained in it.
35:59You're such a massive part of it that you know If anybody wants to start getting on a high horse about stuff, I'm like Soon as you know enough about it and soon as you have a platform that you really can say something Speak your piece, but don't shove it down people's throat. I mean, I'm just not you can do about anything Yeah, you know This episode is brought to you by Farmer's dog It doesn't matter how old your dog is. It's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness And thankfully the Farmer's dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies Dogs prefer their food even picky dogs and owners prefer their service if you have a question about your dog your plan Your delivery or anything else they have 24 -7 customer service that connects you to real humans who are genuinely interested in providing the best experience possible for you and your dog They give you detailed instructions on how to transition your dog to fresh food and even pre -portion it for your dog specific needs Feeding your dog healthy human grade food shouldn't be complicated and with the Farmer's dog it isn't The entire experience from box to bowl is a breeze So try the Farmer's dog today and give healthy Freshly -made food a try you can get 50 % off your first box of food plus free shipping Just go to the Farmer's dog calm slash rogan tap the banner or visit this episodes page to learn more Offer available for new customers only this episode is brought to you by Squarespace Have you ever been shopping online and the website just Gave you the egg Let me tell you that wouldn't happen if they used Squarespace Squarespace design intelligence empowers anyone to build beautiful more personalized websites tailored to your unique needs And with Squarespace payments.
37:49It's super easy to manage payments with just a few clicks Plus with Squarespace's integrated and optimized SEO tools There's all the help you need to get people to your site head to squarespace .com slash Emma for a free trial and use code Emma to save 10 % on your first purchase That's a big one with people start doing to jiu jitsu and they only want to Tell everybody about your jitsu the vegan thing though is like I I really do get it from their perspective like as an ethical perspective It's just one of those things where if there's a thing that you're trying to do where you're trying to be kind You're gonna get a certain percentage of people that start doing that that get annoying Yeah, I just choose not to listen to annoying people I just tune it out.
38:36I don't have fucking time for I really don't have time for it I mean that life there's so much else going on in my life and so much else going on in this world I think why don't we start focusing all the good shit we can do We can do so much great shit if everybody would pivot themselves 10 % and just go and look and say good take everything You love and then go do that more Mm -hmm and be worried less about what somebody saying about you or what something's going on social media or whatever this other shit Maybe just go do something positive. It's this social media contagion. It's it's a problem It's a real problem when will it break is the question like when will it stop being the center of shit when people just start Look and go okay, we're done.
39:14We've had enough of it. It's it's it's it's run its course It's been poisonous enough. It's saying I mean there's positive things to it don't get me wrong I think there's some really good information that you can get from it But the negative side of it just because you have a plot you have a key you know, I always say to these You know, I have young chefs that are on my shows and like oh somebody wrote about me and I'm like a quit reading about yourself Be look at the source now. I come up to you and I tell you that your food sucks I tell you that you'd throw in something that's wrong You know we're friends you can maybe take my opinion with some you know some credit But the fog you know the jerk off that's right in about you and his mom's basement eating Cheetos and his underwear You know cluck it away telling you how much you suck said you really care what that guy thinks The problems of people see it written down and they think it's almost like like a valid source And then they have to combat it, but you're gonna combat 35 million people wherever many people million people are tweeting about things and how many extra counts they have There's a lot of that and there's a lot of people that aren't even real, but it's also it's just the the The nature of it highlights negativity Because then the nature of this platform What gets traction is things that make people upset?
40:28What's what media use? I mean still is you don't hear the front page of the paper Talking about all the good that somebody does and all the money they raise or all the benefit they've given or all the experiences They've offered yeah, what you hear about is the negative the death Yeah, it's a problem because it's monetized right it's a problem because that's how people make money And they don't think of it in terms of the impact that it's having on the culture, but If you're yeah, I mean that's that's how they're making money They make money by getting people or used to be Be getting people to buy newspapers and tune into the news and because of that What what's gonna get people's eyes glued not positive stories and inspirational stories, but rather Whatever the chaos is anywhere in the world and exaggerate it to make it the most salacious and the most ridiculous and How much can we spit regardless if it's true or not?
41:20I mean that's what's been killing me is all of the truth not truth Where is the like where's the medium where who's the governing body like is anybody gonna hold new bodies at you know feet to the fire on this And could they're not I wish there could be a punishment like you lied Yeah, but it's up to us. It's up to us to ignore them Once you know that they're full of shit and once you know that they lie take away their power the way you take away their power is Just not pay attention to them and they do it to themselves I mean in in general mainstream media has kind of over the last You know eight nine years has exposed themselves as being wholly corrupt Very corrupt and full of lies and propaganda and ignoring Positive aspects of people because they don't fit with your political agenda.
42:07It's just And it has a negative effect downstream of the entire civilization because it's just like everybody's had everybody's throats and there It's they're being fed all this negativity first through mainstream media And then it's all accentuated by Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and No, it's poisonous and it poisons the culture unfortunately there's it's we're moving away from it But they're still are we well, I think there's a mass group that is still You know Buying into it and being the sheep and going along with it and you're not following it. I'm not following it Yeah, but we're public people.
42:45It's like it's wise for your health to not follow it, you know true But I hope and again, I don't have any prescription to it. I follow the same mantra. You're saying Quit tuning in, quit paying attention quit passing it along You know quit reading the bullshit. You don't know if it's true or not just Do just talk about what you know and talk about what you believe and and be who you are and and quit trying to Just keep the quit negative shit. Just you know Keep it out of your mouth. Yeah, it's just it's it's a problem because it's so addictive, you know It's people are constantly checking it and when you're bored You immediately grab your phone and then what do you do you open up social media like what's everybody yelling at?
43:27What are they what are the upside of that? Any social media that you guys do mostly Twitter because it's the only one that's free in terms of like free speech like legitimate free speech Call it x whatever. I'm still gonna call it Twitter Um, I hate when they say Twitter X fully known as Twitter. Okay. It's been two years three. I know, but nobody calls it x It doesn't keep a call it x everybody calls it Twitter. Why do you change it anyway because he's crazy same reason why I bought it I saw the picture if you shoot in the bow at the desk. That's crazy. Yeah, I heard the fire the tip came right off and came right back at you Yeah, it blew apart.
44:03Yeah, it's the thick steel. You think it was gonna go through? I think if I had a reinforced arrow so like You know, there's companies that may look super durable like much heavier grain arrows and maybe an iron will broad head But like a single bevel Too blade. I had a three blade too much of a big cutting surface and a smaller surface. I thought about it for a lot afterwards And I may try it again with goggles on in behind it I wasn't worried about it hitting me, but it's It's pretty impressive. I mean you can actually shoot a I think you can shoot a 40 What did you what? What what like round will that I don't want to lie?
44:49I know nine millimeter of bounce right off of it But like what round is that nine millimeter bounce off? bounce right off. No. Yep. Yep, but not the windows No, not the windows. No, but it cost you the windows time. You can get the windows done easy Yeah, I've given one Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard they're amazing. My buddy has when he says I drove my Tesla here today. Oh you have one Yeah, I don't have a cyber truck. I have a model. He says you push the button in the car. I'll come get you I'll do that. Okay The body was in nine millimeter handgun 22 caliber rifle has not bullet proof against all calibers So when you get higher like an AR 15 and fit wall 50 caliber of course gonna penetrate everything Uh trucks metal also crack of shots are fired close together Hmm But either way why would you do that?
45:38Why are you making a car like that you fucking psycho like it's really kind of crazy And I think you can't sell them in some countries because they're It's like they're so durable that it's like a danger to other cars on the road Because like you would hope that like if a Uh Selica hits a Prius. They're both kind of kind of crush equally. Would you think of Selica? That dates us people still have those. Selicas were awesome. I heard they're remaking that That's why I heard that they're gonna bring back a Selica. Shulker's are awesome. Oh, yeah, man What's your favorite of all time? American muscle car.
46:18Oh, that's hard. That's hard. I love them. I got a lot of them. I love do they bring it back to Telugu? Make sure this is an AI might be a AI thing. I heard something about it I don't have a favorite but it's all I like between Early you can get as low as 65 for a couple of them like I have a 65 Corvette that I love And then I think you get as old as 71 if you get into like the barracudas and the challengers some of the mopars but by 71 most of the Fords and the Chevy's had fallen apart For whatever reason I think as they stopped doing drugs. That's what I think I have a theory I have my psychedelic theory Because it's if you never I've heard a lot of reasons they've stopped more EPA issues Well, EPA issues as well, but why make them ugly?
47:10You can make them fuel efficient without making them so ugly Like they something happened they lost their design language and everything started being flat and boring You know except Corvette Corvette is another one like Corvette like they made good looking Corvette steep into the 70s because they still have that curvy body um But if I had to like I don't know I don't Well bow -type mopar or Ford I love them all I'm not picking one. I just I love them all man. I have a 70 kuda. I love that. I have a 68 Mustang. I love that I just I just love that era of automobile and it's just like it's also that era of Culture I love the music and the fact that life was chaotic and You know there were so many changes in the culture there were so quick changes in society And yeah, each year made yeah, I mean they went from buddy holly to Jimmy Hendrix in a decade and everything was like what is What's what's the baseline now with favorite movies that buddy holly movie?
48:17Oh, yeah, Gary Bucy remember that buddy holly in the cricket and Gary Bucy. Oh, it's great. That was a great flick um now I brought the triple D Camaro That's I brought it over what is the triple D Camaro? 68 Camaro. Oh nice. It's a 68 Camaro on an LT4 So it's basically a two thousand and 22 Corvette With a 68 body on it. Oh, okay. I made two of them. I've had a few different cars inside of the show Take like the the new Camaro and cut the body panels off and put the new one 68 Oh nice That's me driving it out too. So we just made that car. I made two of them No, that's not that's not the picture of that but it is that car.
48:57So we made two of them I had that one for the longest time. So you put a different chassis in it and everything yeah Detroit racing. Oh, okay great, but it's I mean, it's just a monster LT4, a Tremick 5 speed. It's just but my boys were sitting there That's what I like rest of mods. Oh, I don't want to drive something with drum brakes. It doesn't stop those are stupid Well, it's so funny to think I have a band I have a trans Am and You'll band a car and it's great and I love it and it's great car, but you and you Drive it and it's so nostalgic to drive it. It feels so good and it doesn't rattle and all that But boy, you know my assistant's Camry can you know, it could probably take it from the line.
49:38Oh, yeah Model 3 allevi in the dust the Tesla There's just a crash is shit Yeah, that's I mean as far as pure performance. There's nothing like those things everything else is stupid But I was this what it is. I mean is this real nothing official has been announced about this sell it Yeah, I'm one worse power Six six speed manual transmission. Oh, that's Forbes dude click on for it It's not showing up is every time I've tried to click on a million times. I'm only getting I have to get to add out of it and then there's no pictures that show the one below it looks like that one that says 2025 That looks like a dark horse Mustang.
50:17That doesn't even look like a to most of these are all like I think yeah generated pictures Yeah, there's a lot of that there's a lot of those yeah go on and you can I felt for the scar face 2 movie Oh, did you yeah, there was something going on maybe add a couple shots of Santa's drinking a little bit But I was like scar face 2 and they did this whole AI thing and I'm like What I'm in loving is a little people little three Theo Vaughna's baby What's that oh, yeah, Theo Vaughna's a babies of my absolute favorite the AI Babies they take like podcast clips and have babies The things just having a security discussion the other day about You know having so many words of mine on the internet or on TV Whatever and then someone could put together a whole sentence and you know the security person said you know What would you do if they sent a message to your wife and made it sound like you I travel a lot I mean, you know so and so and you know I need such I mean I'm in Mexico and I need 100 ,000 bucks.
51:18I'm you know locked up. What would you guys do? You know and I'm like that's a real thing and like not is a real thing They're starting to extort money from people and you know granted they're usually doing it to older people and so forth But it's a real this AI threats real thing. Yeah, that's one of the real things. Yeah We we're gonna encounter a lot of unprecedented challenges to reality over the next few years And there's nothing you could do about it. I mean they're they're gonna try To figure out ways to stop it while it's happening, but you know I think they're farther ahead of us Yeah, the talk technologies just it's reality bending technology You could essentially right now just from the podcast that you and I have had so far us talking You could have us say anything forever We they could do podcasts where you and I discuss fucking Computer chips the construction of them and and and and and have Conversations about nuanced details of the technology that we don't understand and it could be anything a big foreign policy You could talk about anything and it would all be AI generated and no one would be able to tell You there's there's a whole podcast out there of me talking to Steve jobs.
52:33I never met Steve jobs No shit. No, no, no shit. You didn't mean Steve jobs No shit. I'm about to have 45 minute podcasts of me and Steve jobs having a conversation. I never met him What's crazy? They could do anything with your voice man And it's like a little weird like you can kind of tell its fake for but this is like Remember or imagine if you go back like just a few years ago the AI generated deep fakes of celebrities were super obvious And now they're not obvious at all. Remember the Tom Cruise one that was the one that was interesting Yeah, that was one the first one I ever saw no it's and we're just on the cusp of it I think it's even deeper and more Convoluted more screwed up than we know But it's going to become something we're gonna have the face because they're just There's so far ahead of our legislation that's even interested in trying to control I don't think they know what to control.
53:25It's very shit It is but it's also like what is reality going to be because what you're seeing right now It's just a visual representation of what AI can do But what about once it starts being able to recreate experiences? Because that's coming. I mean whether it's 20 years or 50 years There's gonna come a time If you stay alive long enough where you're not gonna have to experience things you're gonna be able to sit down and You know just like the matrix. It's just gonna plug you in and you're gonna experience something Okay, okay, we're a little bit of same age It do not trip out the dick trace.
54:02You had a square watch. It looked like an apple watch. It's kind of crazy Yeah, I mean we talked to it. Nobody's like that's nuts. He's talking. I know. Okay, so did we All right, this is like we should be drinking or something should be going on What happened did did apple just did we influence another apple people that they just decided to make it a square watch and make it look like Dick Tracy's watch or did the dick Tracy thing did we already make the watch and did somebody go back back and I mean Do you ever sit there and trip on shit like that? I definitely don't you don't know not about that I think where is the normal?
54:32No, it's a normal shape for a frame not a watch you talk into though Yeah, but it's just a start track. It's just a tiny screen Yeah, but the start track thing was a fucking walkie talkie. Kirk out and they'd hang up But then we made the start tech yeah Mate but that was also, you know life imitating aren't I mean it's not art, but I so okay, well, we'll go back to matrix then because I think of the matrix things all the time like how That how real how possible is that We used to watch that cartoon. There was a movie my kid watched When he was little about the people that all went and lived it wasn't too long it was maybe 10 15 years ago About the people all lived in a spaceship and the little robot and the plant grew and everybody was heavy set nobody walked They were all in space.
55:20What is it called was it wally at the little robot? Oh the movie. Yeah, the movie thing picks our movie Yeah, yeah, look at that stuff and you're like wow. Yeah, that's what's really happening Okay, so you didn't buy my dick Tracy idea, but I think that the uh the other stuff is well when you Think about where this is all headed There's only a few different directions that one could go to and simulated reality is a big one I think that's inevitable like because I think you're gonna get more sedentary people more people that are Very uncomfortable with their own lives and want to live a different life And then you're gonna be able to have experiences just like when kids play call a duty all day long Like what are they doing?
56:05They're playing war with zero consequences Where they're able to kill people with zero consequences get killed respawn and they're doing it all day long just for the experience Well, what what happens when that experiences is far more vivid your feeling things you feel gravity you feel Your feet feel the concrete underneath you and the gravel you're stepping on they're gonna be able to recreate all that stuff Whether they do it with an implant or where they do with the helmet that you wear that sort of interacts with your brain Send signals into your visual cortex and recreates experiences. It's coming You taking this way past my dick Tracy watch.
56:45Yeah, look at this robot. Oh, I saw this yesterday. Yeah, look at this dance and robot That looks so weird. It's so weird because They're moving like a human moves and then eventually they're gonna realize this human design kind of sucks Let's let's make something that's better than a human She won't wear the robot whacked out the AI robot went crazy. Oh, yeah China. Yeah, I'm like flint White on everybody. Yeah Well, it's gonna be powered by AI and AI is not gonna probably have the best opinion of us Because a lot of us are annoying Yeah, it's weird We're talking about food and cars and Yeah, that's deep.
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1:01:23I was saying about the crazy watch when Where did that come from? I mean I did chase you watch seems kind of obvious. It's a square. Yeah, but I'm just still saying You're TV your TV's a square most watches were round and all of a sudden We came to square. I don't know any out not to get stuck because it's crazy sci -fi look. It's a square like look at the Jetsons But I go back to the thing with the Somebody I mean you were talking about people doing drugs and designing cars who sat around and so okay Let's make up this movie where you take the pill and you're in the system you're out of the system We're plugging in the back of the head you grow energy you you are the energy source now like we use cows for You know grinding grain are we gonna become that and so forth.
1:02:06You think about like when was that matrix 20 years ago 25 years ago At least it's pretty advanced the matrix is the 90s right? What year was that Jamie? 95 99 99 but still yeah, what we know so that we can look at and go make sense 31st 99 I'm sure they wrote it even earlier than that. So yeah, and back then no one had any I mean we so if you're dealing with 99 That's the infancy of the internet itself And right the internet thinking This when we were talking about something the other day this guy wrote a book in 1960 called the man computer symbiosis Which is a very early idea of what the matrix I think kind of a concept of a human computer collaboration And this is 1960 where computers would augment human capabilities and decision -making and complex tasks This vision involved Computers facilitating both the solution of formulated problems and the formulation of problems themselves Essentially creating a partnership where humans and computers could work together More efficient or more effectively than either could alone well that's happening right now That's already happening 1960.
1:03:19Yeah, that's real. What was it guys name? lick lick lighter base. See our lick lighter Strange name mr. lick lighter Yeah, man computer symbiosis look at that guy look at him. He looks like the type of guy would think up shell like that No lick lighter Looks like you'd be trolling for prostitutes too Just saying I mean maybe he did sure he didn't It looks like we're those guys It's just uh It's a very tumultuous time because the change is coming so fast and no one knows what to do with it You know and they there's Not enough laws to really stop it and even if you did have the laws China's not gonna stop Russia's not gonna stop and who do you go to for an answer?
1:04:08I mean, it's like there's so many people. They're so susceptible to it and It's just free with I mean it's just it's out there and People don't even know how to harness it or even understand what you're getting duped into or whatever the case Maybe it's like the things that people are putting on the internet and it lives in perpetuity I mean it's not going anywhere. Well, this is all surface level stuff the really crazy stuff is controlled the power grid alternative technology alternative power sources like it's it's gonna get very very very strange Yeah Inside of our lifetime, but people are always gonna need food bro You know a i's not gonna make you a yummy sandwich Give me time you think now, I don't know.
1:04:52You know there's something about Hand made things that people are always gonna enjoy human beings know That someone it's like when you go to a nice restaurant you have a nice meal One of the things you know is that a person did this. It's part of it like damn they nailed it You know when you're eating a perfectly cooked steak or oh, it's kind nailed this, you know Well, it's listening to it's depends on your kind of music but listening to music when somebody's up They're riffing a guitar versus somebody making a guitar sound. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you're experiencing the person performing Like you're watching someone up there jamming I think the big thing in food like one of my positions on it and I always tell people You know like oh the guy that does that show about deep fried cheeseburgers and pizza that I like no You don't watch the show enough is that's what you think because I Super opinionated about not opinionated, but I have a real Responsibility I think to show the profile of food in the world or you know in the United States and We've got to get our shit straight about what we're eating We're just we can't eat this can this process food.
1:05:54I mean process food is you're not eating it I mean We got to eat the basics and eat great food and eat great food made correctly, but Something that was made a long time. Don't get me wrong. There's a place for everything. There's a place for fast food There's a place for you know things that are pre -made and so forth But it can't be all of one thing but people need to eat better and you know you being a hunter and myself I talked to people out about it all the time You know, this is a reality that if you eat things that are Modified I'm not saying genetically modified doesn't have a place, but it can't be all the same stuff And if we don't watch it we're gonna get ourselves in some deep shit and we're already in deep shit cancers Well, you know, where's the heart attack?
1:06:34Where's the where's the stuff that was plaguing us if there's so many Generations and now this cancer thing I lost my sister to cancer lost my dad to cancer Have some I run into more people on a daily basis that are you know stricken with cancer And I think food as a you know the type of food and what's put on the food as big big play So it's definitely a factor there's a lot of factors. There's environmental factors just toxins herbicides pesticides There's a lot of different factors. I was just reading this thing about golf courses that if or watching a video rather on golf courses that if you Live within a certain radius of a golf course.
1:07:10You're you have a much higher Possibility of getting Parkinson's disease Oh shit. Yeah. Oh here it is Parkinson's risk higher for those living close to a golf course What does it say 126 % wow? So found people living within one mile of a golf course have a hundred and twenty six percent higher risk of developing developing what happened Uh 126 % higher risk of developing Parkinson's disease compared to living more than six miles away said core co -author dr. Ray Dorsey A neurologist and the director of the center of for the brain and the environment at Atria health and research institute in New York This is in the first study that links Parkinson's disease with pesticides.
1:07:57This just adds additional evidence This isn't just happening among farmers. This is happening to people living in suburban areas that have an increased risk of getting Parkinson's disease simply because of where they live That's crazy But not the ones to bring the pesticides. It's like second -hand smoke They're just basically breathing it in or consuming it in the water that they're drinking I met a guy once that He had bone cancer and he had to have one of his bones in his legs or place with a rock And he said that there's an enormous percentage of people in his neighborhood that had bone cancer and all kinds of different cancers And it was all linked to this golf course They're the runoff and the golf course had gotten into the water table In the water supply of all these people Yeah, it's dangerous and that shit's not even legal in a lot of countries.
1:08:50That's it's crazy. That's glyphosate and that it's not I think they're linking this golf course thing to glyphosate as well, aren't they? Ed's just pesticides in general. I have I'm leaving looking at analysis. There's like a this is a contentious new study Which obviously it would be but I'm trying to see what the contention is or why you know what spooky man It's like there's a lot of rich folks live on golf courses and they think like hey, what a great life And are you opening? I wonder what how many more of those fuckers are getting Parkinson's disease because of that Scary shit man. You think about the other countries We don't talk about a lot in our country, but what they ban in other countries uh -huh Of our products.
1:09:30Oh, yeah, and just how they're holding the line Remember when I lived in France. I was I live right outside of Paris in a town called Shantilly. We'd call it Shantilly Which is a term Shantilly -Lay Shantilly cream that comes from but I remember I was there. I was 16 and I wrote my parents and I'm like food just tastes different here I'm not a care if it's a steak and a potato. It just tastes different. I mean like it cuz it's grass -fed steak It was and I have green fed steak over there I noticed that the first time I went to Australia. I had a steak. I'm like this tastes like game Oh, great.
1:10:04Everything tastes and we didn't have this funny cuz we go to school The lunch that we had at school Was to get I live in this kind of this boarding house. I rented a room from this family. They were terrible cooks I didn't think you go to France everybody cook good But anyhow, I went to high school. I looked forward to lunch at school It was the best school lunch in the world. You'd sit at a table like this There were eight kids and they would come by with a cart and they'd put down a hotel pan full of you know Whatever vegetable whatever starts whenever meat would sit there and wait all the French bread we could eat And it was just like I looked forward to it so much it was such great food and I just never got it one then I got older and started cooking and I kind of went oh really so that the funny thing was I went back to France 25 30 years later took my oldest son hunter with me We did a whole tour through Europe when he graduated high school.
1:10:52I took him to seven countries in 14 cities in 30 days and we did this whole tour of where food came from when I took him back to Shanty and I went to the grocery store Because my best friend from school still live there and I walked into the grocery store and what had been a grocery store full of huge Isles of fresh produce and breads and everything you can imagine was now just freezer freezer freezer freezer freezer freezer Really and I said to Vince I go as in his van somme I said van somme what Yes, cuz it will and he's like Gonna be more like Americans that was his you know kind of joking But it had changed so dramatically.
1:11:32I was like this is like not it was shattering yeah, I think Fresh food is really the only thing that people are supposed to be actually eating all the time Real food. It's I mean the more that you can get to a farmer's market the more that you can have relationships with ranchers and And people that actually provide your food the healthier you're going to be and the further you get away from the source The more you're gonna have preservatives the more you're gonna have processed food Stay away from the inside of the supermarket all that stuff on the inside. I mean there's condiments and stuff But most of it's bullshit the outside and I agree meets eggs all that stuff that's on the outside All that refrigerated area on the outside that that's all you're supposed to be actually eating All that stuff that's in the middle is just fucking your life up for the most part.
1:12:21Obviously. It's a generalization plenty good stuff in the middle Yeah, and I think that there is but circumstances not everybody has the same budget and so forth, but I do believe that The reality of it is his education is a big thing You know education for people about what to do with real food and how to handle it and so forth And you know, I remember home heck was a great class and when I was a sophomore in high school Home heck I took home heck and it was you know almost all girls But I was in it because I want to you know see what the I didn't want to sew But I did want to learn you know how to make a blackberry pie and I just think those simple fundamentals should still be something that are taught in schools Like just how to make a roasted chicken Yeah, I give him six months of roasting chicken, you know, how do you cook a potato?
1:13:07You know just the basics because there's a lot of people that you know my son included my my son rider You know, we did a we did a crash course I always made him cook with me in the kitchen But it was usually begrudgingly, you know, he'd make things that he'd like to make pizza Let's make pizza, you know tacos But even that little thing like how to see your stake You know, what's done? What's not done? What's overseas? What's on you know those things? We we're missing that you know, so you said go to AI food. I mean Scary shit. Yeah We've been bamboozled, you know and corporations, you know the same corporations that used to Will still do owned tobacco companies bought out all these big process food corporations And then they started me this is something that RFK juniors talked in depth about And then they started using the same tactics to get people hooked on these process foods and these process foods are essentially designed to make them incredibly addictive and They're cheap and people just consume them in mass and it becomes a large percentage of the calories you take in It's gonna take a long time for people to adjust and switch away from that Because it's easy to destroy something.
1:14:17It's very hard to rebuild and they've kind of destroyed our health and But it goes hand in hand because when you start thinking about you know this cancer thing And how devastating it is I'm like can't really solve this You know, and then you listen to the some other sides. It'll say you know big business You know, you don't make money curing people, you know, that's it's one and done. It's over, you know I don't know it weirds me out, but I think that we have You know, you just got such a massive massive platform and I talked you heard my little pitch there at the beginning of food network real food for real people Um, I'm not saying these restaurants I should on trouble.
1:14:55You should go eat every single day because not every one of them is You know always the healthiest situation. I think you need to have a good Balance between things, but it's okay to have indulgence. It's okay. You know, they it's okay to have a Tweets you ever know have your pizza you know your peach experience, but we just need to get back to some Balance of it because we're imbalances my feeling but then again, you're always gonna have bad examples That are good for people to realize. I don't want to live like that guys living You want to see someone who's like morbidly obese terrible diet right no Enthusiasm for life Because they're poisoned you know, and then you see a guy who's like super healthy and exercising all the times got tons of energy like That's what I like like you need to see bad examples too.
1:15:43It's part of the human experience Moderation is my favorite thing that I talk about you know, I got into I don't know about three four years ago got into cold plunge and thank you by the way you're a great advocate and you're great You you were a great inspiration on it I started doing it and then everybody would tell me that you're doing it. So I listen to what some of the things you I do it in the morning It's just like you said it is The life changer it did some mornings at socks. I mean I really have to force myself every day I'm going into this. This is bullshit. You know, okay. I'll just get through five minutes, and I'm good You know, just listen to Paul Harvey.
1:16:17I listen to Paul Harvey in the morning. That's my really Paul Harvey The rest of the story why Paul Harvey um Because I love history And I love to learn the little nuances of how things came about And it was something reminds me my childhood, you know, we'd listen to it in in shop class when I was in high school And it was always that quick little in -between break, you know, they've syndicated Pretty interesting guy. There's a whole bunch out there. Oh, he was great I have my set of music that I listen to that I know this is I'm gonna do a 10 -minute plunge or 12 -minute plunge depending on the song and if I can keep myself out of it Because as soon as I start worrying about it, it's like thinking I'm cold But I don't do it your temperature.
1:17:02You do a crazy temper. I do like 38 39 year. I heard you like it I do whatever. No, I heard you in the 33s. Yeah, it's fucking that's nuts. It's no different. It's just cold I have no difference. Oh, so in your buddies earlier. So I friends will come and do it I started with my cold punch. I started with a watering trough and put ice in it So I was way started. Well, you know, you get that little thermal barrier around it. It's awesome Yeah, okay, and then you have to you know, you got to move or something like that. You move now you're cool Then I went to a freezer and built one out of a freezer Oh, like a like one of them big game freezer.
1:17:36Yeah, big Westing house freezer a little filter in it had a little Thermostat you plug the freezer into the thermostat and then the thermostat into the wall and then it would in the put a plant Little temperature in there and it would regulate itself so it didn't turn into a block of ice But every time I got in I had done plug it because they're not you well rated rated for humans to be in them You know, right, right So then a buddy of mine this guy Jamie week sent me one sent me one from sweat house is company and And then I got real cold punch. Well that water circulates. That's a game. What difference Is like a blue cube like blue cube is one we have out here that one you can turn to a raging river It's got different Selection so you can have like a little if you get in it normal It's just a slow Steady circulation not nothing crazy, right?
1:18:28Be can click that bitch one or two and it too. It's that motherfucker is a raging river. It's just rolling on you And it's hard to do a minute in that bitch. It's hard to do a minute because you do get that little thermal barrier Yeah, in the blue. No, this one is called plunge throughout a Sacramento these guys Great great top really comfortable. It's like I don't know what the benefit is other than it sucking more I think your body temperature stays the same because it's like just by I Guess you don't feel as bad because your body like in a regular cold punch because your body develops that thermal barrier But you're still cold as shit and you get all the benefits.
1:19:07I don't think you have to suffer through that raging river thing But if you want the mental benefits the benefits of overcoming adversity and the ability to just force yourself to do something That's intolerable Then I would recommend doing that if you're one of those people that really enjoys torturing themselves I look you I push people on this and so they'll get I was telling you guys so I buddy come over and I'm not doing I'm just do one minute if you do one minute. I'll get off it I will equip us from your balls about it about you being you know Okay, get in there. So then I'll start talking to my okay.
1:19:40I got time. We're going and they'll go okay What you don't talk about this and I'll freeze my ass. Okay, give me your favorite song which favorite song then I'll look the song up take my time Hank Williams country boy cancer. Okay, okay, ready. I'm gonna play it for you. You're doing good You got you just few more you got like three more seconds. It's already been two minutes Play country boy cancer by okay. How many of the words do you know to this song? Oh, all right no besides the hook What do you know of the song? Okay, you know I said they're just mess with them. No go four minutes And I'll say okay and stop they go that was a minute bullshit that songs over that's right and I'm like I was like five and a half minutes you see Good, you know, what's mental it is mental.
1:20:19Yeah, it's mental if you can distract yourself It's that's why far away. Yeah. Well, that's why watching a movie while you're on a treadmill is a total cheat code Because if you can get like an iPad and put ear plugs on and watch a movie You'll get absorbed in the movie you won't even think about the fact that you're running know what I watch what Ridiculousness Oh, that's a good thing to watch. I fucking love. Yeah, I love ridiculousness. I went on there. I to me Deardick's comments of the funniest deal brim all those guys they've cracked me up and you know except for having to fight through a Commercial here and there because I don't remind you that you're still on the elliptical you're trying to Electrical guy I don't do either of those right generally.
1:21:01I mean sometimes I'll do a a treadmill With like a weighted pack on I'll do like who do you use for that pack? What I use outdoorsman's it's a it's a pack that has a post on the back of it so I could actually put like big plates on it Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, what got away do you talking? Mostly when I go for long walks. I just put 45 on so the pack is probably five pounds and then the 45 pound plate Then I take the dog out But if I'm doing hardcore workouts, I'll put 90 on it. So I'll put two plates and then There's a great machine called See if you can find a Jamie's called the I think it's called the hit sled and you It's like you do a farmer's carry so it has Plate posts on either side and you lift it up and it's at an angle So as you're walking you're carrying you want you step inside of no No, no, no, you just it's just a treadmill.
1:22:01It's like a treadmill that's at an angle. That's it. Was it called Jamie? Hit yeah, the hit male X that mother fucker unit itself that motherfucker's the shit That thing is the shit and it sets is at the tensioner in the front Well, so you've got this you got the ability to just incline I think is that a just incline or is it static? Either way, whatever that incline is and then you have those weight posts on the side So you're lifting weight up and you're carrying weight So that guy's got 45 on each side so he's carrying 90 pounds while you're walking uphill And whoo that'll get you in some shape.
1:22:40Whoa Baby that'll get you in some shape Ask kicker. Yeah What do you cook? Mostly meat Mostly what I eat is meat That's like 90 % of my diet meat and eggs What's the what's your cheat what you're like Cheat my daughter is a really good chef. Not a good chef a good baker. She's great at cookies She makes some she it fucking every time she's cooking my god damn it Get me making me some cookies. She's really good though. They're really legit Like she made these cookies like these peanut butter chocolate chip cookies with Nutella. Whoo They're good um, how can you do just one or two or yeah? Yeah, yeah, well I work out a lot So I allow myself to eat like a pig every now and then But like for me cheat food is always either Italian or Mexican I Love I love good Mexican food.
1:23:38I love good Italian food. I just love if I'm gonna pig out and I'm gonna eat something I know is just for mouth pleasure. It's probably gonna be Mexican or Italian carbs. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, so addictive. Yeah, I find the more I stay away from them the less Addicted I am sure yeah, and then as soon as I have them I find myself right back in there and back into you know I look forward to going to New York just for Italian food Because Lake Austin is great for barbecue and steaks and Tex -Mex Mexican foods great here. There's a lot of great food in Austin, but there's not a lot of Legitimate Italian spots like there was an LA LA had some legit Italian spots Chicago Chicago's got great Italian food my favorite York though.
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1:26:24It just smells different the four freaks They're fresh cotton the slices the whole fired up. They're so excited to get that fucking sandwich The meatballs taste different that yeah, no the whole thing so federal Hill in in Rhode Island Is a real famous Italian, but I've shot shows up there a couple times But it's not too far from where my wife's family live and I just remember going up there and going to the delis and getting those cherry pepper stuff With prosciutto and provolone and just you know, I'll take six of them and I'll take 18 to go I would always you know bring them all back to California.
1:26:58Just can't find anything like you know what else I've missed on the east coast that you don't really get out here as a legit Jewish deli like our cats deli Like someone needs to figure out a way to do something like that here where you can get like a legit Pastrami Rubin like a real one You know, but the question I have about that that's what people ask me on a time when I first started triple D you could only get true Tex -Max or great mexican food really in this Texas Arizona Nevada, California down in this pocket But I will say that now I'm starting to find Because typically it's the people migrating to these different areas.
1:27:39I went to a mech I don't do a mexican joint on triple D in Minneapolis And it's a mexican market kind of syria. It's the whole thing and it was Better than 85 % of joints that I've tried in this region as I was just talking about So I'm starting to find this Better cross -pollination of foods in different regions where people move. Yeah exactly. Yeah, but you gotta have the market Yeah, see the market is the key because who are they gonna sell it to if people don't get it Because a fatty brisket from cats deli Is just a different you gotta have the mindset I've taken people there so many times and like It's this much meat and there's little pieces of bread and I'm eating meat the whole time like yeah, yeah The fuck up.
1:28:21I gotta get a good one for me first time I went to can't sell it So I'm in their filming food network star when I had had a day off my buddy lived in New York He was a guy that was on the show with me. So I'm taking a cats tell him cats Instagram so I can see some visuals What's going on? I'm addicted to their Instagram Sanwiches. No, I was brought you that I thought I was gonna bring you food today when I went and did the thing and I'm like Yeah, I'm not taking Joe the vegan food this. I'm not gonna take this. Yeah, please don't do that. I'm gonna take the beating me that I Elf sausage for breakfast.
1:28:50Um, oh Love el look at this. Oh come on baby. Look at cats is deli. Look at that. Look at that. Pistrami says keto keto Pistrami room. Oh my god. I'm eating healthy How was it keto? Oh no bread. Oh, they're just giving you the oh yeah. Oh my goodness look at that Oh Look how good that looks oh my god Oh, I love cats is deli. I need to I try to go every time I'm in New York Those guys I see the same fucking dudes that I've been going since I was going there in like the early 2000s I've run into the same guys working there. This guy's it had been there for 25 30 years and there's such good dudes great I'll eat more snacks over the counter Yeah, give you a little piece.
1:29:41They always do that at cats. They'll give you a little piece and they have a tip jar and so people Haven't been to cats when you go into cats, you know, but I'm gonna tell them fucking Sanwich man When you go to cats, they give you a chip they give you a ticket. Yeah, you got a paying cash Okay, so they give you the ticket cards better of cash So you you pass the ticket over the counter they mark off what they gave you so then you take it ticket and you sit down You eat your food and then when you leave you go out and you check out with your ticket so my buddy and I go and I order up we order up all the stuff.
1:30:12I'm paying so we put it on my ticket So we had a bunch of sandwiches bunch of beers, you know, we had some so We're leaving and I turn my ticket in and I pay my bill and they look at my buddy and they say where's your ticket and he goes I didn't get anything I put on his ticket I said no you got to turn your ticket it and it says right there lost ticket, you know 300 bucks or whatever the ticket would be worth it that was all checked off right and I'm like, but he didn't have anything. It's all you can see it and they're like you gotta have your ticket or you pay the and like what up I mean I'd never been to a place like this So we go back over to the table where it'd been sitting well They'd already turned the table and it's all gone and done and now there's four big Construction dude sitting there huge in the yellow vest hard hats on total New Yorkers.
1:30:57My buddy wasn't from New York and he goes And like excuse me find serves You know, and I don't have you know again still in the same yellow yellow jacket bleach And my buddy standing there and he's from like Iowa You guys see a ticket and like what the fuck you want? Like get out of here. You're interrupting their meal. Yeah, exactly what we're doing there on a lunch break We're looking for a ticket and he happens my buddy happens to see the ticket on the floor underneath the biggest guys boot Like half like like like I'm not getting the ticket You're the dumbass lost the ticket get the ticket.
1:31:36So we had I think we had to buy the guys like you know I we had to buy him something or pay the tip or whatever for the guy to move his boot and we got the ticket Yeah, it was a tumultuous. I go with people now and I'm like take the ticket put it in your wallet right now I'll pay the meal, but just don't lose a ticket. Yeah, you have to be prepared for the experience because it's not like anything else But it's mom worth it. It's worth it. You get the best fucking corn beef the best People the nice people yeah, the pastrami's off the fucking chain that pastrami's insane I get the same thing every time just cuz I it's so good.
1:32:10I don't want to switch up I got a pastrami Rubin and the jacks anyway incredible pickles the pickles are amazing swap So I love the thing to have on there. Do you see that one back while send a salami to a You know to a sailor to a sailor. Yeah, that whole campaign that was going on still has something needs to be done Yeah, it's well. They've been around since the 1800s such the joint such spot It's in it, but there's a plate There's a thing about places like that where there's still like this deep history You feel it when you're in there you got a smile on your face when you walk in the door because it's just like this incredible history Like you feel like wow this place is still around still the same.
1:32:48Let's get up to the counter Oh, he's chopping it up look at that. I'm not this is like torture my mouth. I know That's what I love about going to New York and eating there I like walking into a pizzeria and smelling everything and seeing the guy pulling the pies out of the oven like Yeah, and they're not always the cleanest and they're not and they're in the counters are worn out in the whole thing exactly No, I mean that's part of the charm if they redid it it would fuck it up Yeah, you go and you go and remodeled it's not my god if you read it cats is Deli I'd fucking slap you How dare you how dare you take the all the pictures of dead celebrities off the wall like you know That's part of it the fucking your bit of de faros over Brooklyn.
1:33:30No, no Guy there cuts the basil with scissors. Oh, I remember standing there and then just looking at the pizza come out And it doesn't look like I mean it's just next level pizza You've been to reos No, we're not reos is in Harlem. No, I enjoy Well call on fellow are a R a O S Okay, and it is the old school. I mean this is this is an Italian joint that you can only get in if you know somebody You wish somebody tiny little place maybe 15 tables. There it is So it's right on the corner like 96 wow and I tell you So you tell me when you're in New York next and I'll call my uncle bow. What's he's it on?
1:34:10Click on New York was say with the with the addresses. Yeah East 114th Street Wow When I original the floor is all planted like if you're sitting at the wrong part of the table You're you're sitting having dinner kind of cockeyed like this everybody's on top of each other. It's all family. It's it's It's an experience Talk about because then I went to reos and in Vegas when they put one in the season in seizures Same pictures on the wall same all that stuff, but it just didn't have It was good, but it just wasn't Look at that that looks amazing. They by sit right back there another place I fucking love is Peter Lugers.
1:34:48Oh, yeah Peter Lugers Brooklyn. Oh You being a me guy. Oh my god. They bring that steak to your plate. It's covered in butter and it's crackling. Oh I don't even eat the sides. I'm not I mean everybody let's get that right they just have it down to like it's so consistent Every time you go to the steak is exactly perfectly cooked you've been a Jeff Rubies Where's that he's got a Nashville Louisville Cincinnati Jeff Rubies a character months characters You got it you ever gonna chance go to one of steak houses this guy they crushed steak I mean some of my favorite steak in the country I was just at the Derby and I was at his place and the eat and steak and took Taylor Taylor shared in there and they were they were pretty shit They were like Taylor you meet guy me guys.
1:35:31Oh your friends are Taylor. Yeah I was just with him Saturday night. He did the commercial speech at UT great guy. I mean, you know you know Proud of a speech man. What you fucking killed it? He walks the talk. There's no bullshit about that Yeah, I love that to help me with the fundraiser We do so I do a lot of philanthropy. That's my you know being a dad is my biggest job my biggest responsibility Husband rest on to a chef on it, but my My endgame is my philanthropy Flanthropy to me. I mean I have so much opportunity and there's so many good things coming my way I try to divert as much of that towards doing it so my philanthropy is about first responders first responders active military Invetrains but now that I have this Program going where we can do things to raise money and it's not just raise money Raised money and do things with it like when the fires happened in LA We went down with our team with big rescue trailer that's 50 feet long We can feed about 5 ,000 a day out of it and I have but chef buddies and so they all come and help and we just pump out food for the first first responders but I was doing we had the fires in Maui and Devastation and I know the fire of feeling because I was up there in Humberland North of California in Sonoma County when we had our bad fires and So we raised money so I got 40 chefs together We were all in town doing I do a show called tournament of champions.
1:36:53They were in town for the tournament and We put on a dinner for 150 people so I called Taylor and said hey, I'm doing this event You want to come up and he says only if I get to cook you know, we're gonna cook together So we brought up all these you know four sixes These these Tomahawk chops a size of you know a manhole cover and we cooked and so we sat and we raised money We did all these different things like you know go to four sixes ranch. You can go be here You can go you know have a culinary experience with guy blah blah blah blah and in one night We raised 1 .7 million with 150 people in the room That's incredible and a big part of that was Taylor I think three of the biggest packages sold were for over a hundred thousand bucks to go down to his ranch or to go No actually it was to go up to Montana to Yellowstone To see the filming oh He's just that kind of dude man.
1:37:41He that dude Everybody he gets everybody the time. He's I'm just a derby walking around together just class act We just love that guy. Yeah, he's a legit and then what the fuck the shows he's making. I know I don't know how he can do it landman Well, I don't know how he does so many shows. I keep finding shows like this show looks interesting Terri Sheridan show like what lioness yeah, he's got a man do ten shows Maybe watch landman. Yeah, I love it. I'm a huge Billy Bob fan. Oh, and he's the coolest. He's the best. I said to him I go Did you write that for him? I mean it couldn't be Billy Bob any god damn better Said the one liners of the best god damn thing.
1:38:23It's I can't get enough and I love I love Kings of I love Kings of Mayor Kingstown. That was great. That was another one Remember the starting the first episode you didn't see that shit coming right at the beginning The guy that you thought was gonna be the lead you didn't think it should be sure Oh, no, I said that is a you haven't watched by now. You're missing it tough shit. Sorry. I blew it for you It's another Taylor show. He's got so many shows. It's a lioness. I just don't understand how he can put together So 1923 1883 yellowstone like god damn. I think they're doing another one. I think they're doing like a 1943 I just watched the end of 1923 and cried like a baby I was bummed the yellowstone ended the way it did though.
1:39:06Yeah Circumstances were fucked up outside of the outside of the show Circumstances. Yeah, I don't know what happened Well, I would Kevin Costor want to leave that show. I just don't understand what happened I was what I read or what I thought I learned was that he had his own project and his I'm just very dead I mean Kevin Costor's been around for so long. It's probably hard for him to do somebody else's thing for so long So good. Yeah, I know he was perfect in that role too. So iconic. I know the ending I mean even if you're gonna leave my bummer for it was my bummer about it was even if you're gonna leave Just I mean why would go out better than in this situation was I mean they did it the way they did it I'm not I'm not discrediting the show by any means, but I'm just saying I just wanted it to be like The way it was from the beginning.
1:39:52Yeah, they did it. It was almost kind of like a fuck you It seemed like to me from which side exactly I'm not coming back. Well wait. Do you see how you go? Yeah? Exactly and Taylor is a little bit. I mean I wouldn't cross him. Yeah, I'm a little bit of that no It's funny. I was telling about this ranch that I hung out in California. He's like I used to cowboy at that place like he's a legit guy It's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a good dude too solid human being, you know You're talking to him. He's right there, you know, it's not he told me come He says listen, I know what you're doing up there in northern California You've done your fundraiser there a bunch of years.
1:40:29He says come down to do it my ranch He says I will bring you the people with the money that believe in what you're doing with these first responders and these because when we don't have Disasters we just go do Positive energy thank you's to different municipalities. We just did one in in Florida and South Florida We just bring the trailer in bring about your chefs in Call up the local sheriff call up the troopers call up everybody, you know bring your families if you want It's free lunch times for you to celebrate and be recognized You know, we got people walking around the streets that don't understand why our country's free They don't have any idea what it takes to be a free country and they don't understand the sacrifice Not just the sacrifices that the actual individual makes but the sacrifice the family makes Now what I'm talking about the loss of somebody we're talking about just the you know being deployed for seven months And not seeing dad for seven months or seeing your husband or your wife or whatever and I remember I was on the US Center Prize And I was doing a doing a you know plan to be eventin This years ago.
1:41:29I was cooking for the the sailors and then a bunch of Marines on this like 5200 people and I'm on the line serving this young Sailor and she came through and we you know kind of talking for a second. She says I have four kids. I said How She wasn't very old. I said how many she was live a eight month old baby Babies on the ship she was no babies. No I said how how could you be away from your child at this age and she's like no, it's you know, I'm deployed and I'm like what a commitment, you know, what a commitment to do and the kids without so I think I mean my mantra is we're talking about people pushing things on Other people about their beliefs or their opinions of their attitudes And I said you know, I kind of divert from all of it and you know if you don't want to like something don't like it That you think but I am hell bent on What goes on in this country about how we recognize our veterans and our first responders and our active military We have we got we're missing some pieces.
1:42:31Yeah, we got some people that have made the ultimate commitment the ultimate sacrifice It's like the stolen valor shit. Oh, I'll lose my mind on that because that's just crazy The commitment that it takes of course, and so we put so much into putting the soldiers and the sailors and all these Military folks into these programs and then when they come back I don't think that we put the same amount of commitment and I think that we've got a lot of people need a lot of help There's a lot of PTSD. There's a lot of shit going on. Yeah, so my interest is I'm not gonna solve that situation I'm not the one that's gonna be able to but at least you could recognize and give them Recognize talk about it.
1:43:09We carry challenge coins and ran into one of your guys's first responder Also didn't know that he served our country in the military Please when you see somebody in uniform if you you see somebody with a Vietnam vet hat You see somebody that's in you know just take a moment. Just say thank you Thank you go so far and people think I just know that I can do does know what means a shit ton to people Yeah, so I had to get on my rant, but I know that's one of my debts. What are my hardcore issues? That's good It's a beautiful perspective because it's it's especially with first responders and law enforcement in this country They just don't get any love It's kind of crazy like the cops are the bad guys in this country like that's why the defund the police movement Which is driving me fucking crazy like you you guys are out of your mind But we're gonna have a march and we'd like you to be there to keep people from throwing shit at us.
1:43:56Yeah So so here's not crazy is a defund the police march where we need the police we need you so the people that are again So when we hit the fires in northern California I was watching a lot of we're there feeding him. It was up and actually we're up in paradise It was devastating fire that was a crazy fire Joe I drove through it. I don't know what I don't know what the surface of the moon looks like, but I can tell you it was as close to because there was nothing standing there The only thing that didn't burn that was a fire station I mean and not because they defended those people that got stuck on the road stuck cars gone everything got it Bombed away.
1:44:33It was it was I don't know the term but So I'm standing there and I'm feeding people and I know for a fact because I just been inside that I just went to the the fire I went and fed people to fire station that was the only building standing And I said why why don't you guys over here eating we're serving a bunch of food Nah, it's you know, we'll just stay over here. I said you guys are fire victims your houses weren't done Yeah, but you know and you had all kinds of restaurants feeding people and all the stuff and I'm watching these guys eat granola bars And eat MREs and I said Come over and get some food and then I said okay That's it next day picked up my trailer we moved I said we only feed first responders not that I'm not about the fire victims I think the fire victims is terrible But the reality of this we have a lot of people that were focusing on the victims and giving them which they need But these guys were doing these men and women were going to bed these they were doing 72 hour shifts sleeping in the back of their patrol car They drove their patrol car up from river side and they're up in northern California now And so that's what that's what I changed my pivoted my whole foundation was when the disasters go down We're going to get there and we're going to focus on the first responders We were down in LA for 10 days.
1:45:45We fed 25 ,000 meals Now it's not going to feed everybody and it's not going to take care of everything But there is a point of them being recognized or knowing that we recognize them And I had so many chefs in LA that showed up and jumped on the trailer and we're cooking food and we were almost cooking You know 24 hours is you're just rolling over and people are so thankful That's awesome. Yeah, but we all can do these things. You know we can do these things we can make donate Okay, maybe you don't have the money donate the time maybe don't have the time do the positive reinforcement on the on social media You know if you don't have the time you don't have the money you don't have time Just pat somebody on the back and say thanks I mean, that's we really can do we can do way more.
1:46:26Yeah, and we can make a bigger impact Well, just as a society We need to recognize the importance of these people and appreciate them for what they do And I don't think that that's been accentuated that's not been People haven't focused on that and that's a top -down thing that comes from the president that comes from the the cabinet that comes from the way the The country perceives these people and the way they Award these people and you know the way that our Media treats them, you know the media had a field day after George Floyd with this defund the police stuff and just That kind of devastation that does form a rally and for recruiting and you know, just The overall feeling that these people have like why am I doing this job?
1:47:13Where not only am I not being thanked for it, but I am being thought of as the enemy I do something if I do something. I'm not gonna get supported, right You know because I'm gonna get persecuted right and every day you show up you pull people over you're worried you're gonna get shot Every fucking day they all have PTSD every one of them you go pull a buddy minds a fireman And I didn't really understand I didn't think about until he brought it up to me one day and he said It seems jay levar and jay said, you know, you go pull kids out of a car You go you go do you a facelight and then you go home to your kids, right?
1:47:52That's horrible that'll just right yet, but I know you know like I said I'm so interested in What we can do and we have so much we're the greatest country in the world We're finally writing the ship. We're getting into better space Gosh, let's start focusing on it. Let's start focusing on the fundamentals that made us the ass kicking name -taking Center of you know that that made us the best and we have to start ingrained we have to start teaching that I was just talking about I just did a podcast for the Dale Carnegie Institute And I that was a book that changed my life when I was young when I was come open Bro Rich no, what is it how to win friends and it's people yeah And it talks really about just human nature about how you treat people and treat people who you want to be treated and Think before you act and think before you speak or before you light somebody up on a text, you know kind of and I was I was going through this and I said, you know, this is This is like a course that should be taught At freshman high school absolutely and we should teach civility and we should teach respect responsibility Yeah, you know back your mount back your mouth up, you know don't go popping off on the you know and do these these things the way we grew up I mean, I'm not saying that violence is the answer but you you definitely didn't have people running their mouth like they do now because There was hell to pay at three o 'clock, you know, you know, yeah, that kind of stuff So I think that we need to get involved in teaching our young America that They have it they have a voice they have an opinion they have they're they're very worthwhile and Let's just do it the right way But I think that Dale Carnegie Institute that that how to win friends there they I didn't know how many things they do a world wide And I just think I was just telling my sons about it.
1:49:36I said you can all expect that you're going to be going to one of these Programs are doing one of these courses. I made them all read the book. That's great, you know, it's me people in school get taught how to I mean you get taught a lot of information But I think one of the things that's missing is getting taught how to behave and think and how to critically think and how to the head of you the world the number The critical thinking to me is I mean you even say the term to somebody critical thinking and they'll look at you and go But they don't know what it means critical thinking is solving situations is evaluating the environment and and coming up with with calculating It's not taking a risk.
1:50:19It's taking a calculated risk And there's just so many of those types of things my dad was a huge Critical thing. I mean he was so we had a rule when I was a kid Joe would be driving down the road and My dad would say what are you thinking? You're quiet over there. What are you thinking? One thing I was now out to say was nothing He'd say god full of shit. What do you think? I mean Got a partner. What are you thinking? I'm saying well All there's that's all grass, but under the telephone pole There's no grass And then we would spend the next goddamn hour talking about why there's no grass under the telephone pole And why is no grass under the telephone pole fire, you know the ability to get to the poles They have to be able to drive to them.
1:51:09So you look at it because like you can go into the wine country You know, you look at all these mountains that have all these telephone poles Going that you you find roads on top of mountains and so forth. It's usually fire break More access to the telephone poles um But we would do this critical thinking thing and it was so funny um my my young my nephew my sister was dying of cancer and I took him away for the day and we're driving around in Corvette and We're at the stoplight manual Corvette and sitting there talking to Jules Jules about nine and he says, you know Wait, he says I really like talking to you.
1:51:46He says you're fun to talk to he says it's a little bit different than talking to jams My dad he says uh, I said what do you mean Jules? He says well, you know You know sometimes when I ask jams, you know like what time is it? You know, I just want to know what time it is I don't want to know how the clock is made I slipped the clutch man a car burned out of my Jesus Christ I don't want to know how the clock is because that was my dad man You'd ask him a question like what time is would you understand the difference between the analog you got a dig In my dad would go into this he's an old he was a sub -mariner during Vietnam.
1:52:20He's a piece of work. Oh really? Yeah, oh, I just I lost him Right around my birthday year and a half ago and a pink -radded cancer, but he let he lived for six years with it It was pretty a lot of cancer in the family socks man and I think that like I didn't and tell you're in that club the club socks But when you meet somebody that is in the fight the fight for their life Tell me give them a hug give them Give them a smile give them encouragement and if they have battled and they have one Recognize them as a as a warrior as a survivor You know, especially breast cancer and all these horrible cancers that you know that that people are sticking with If there's we need to have more apathy more understanding and I'll tell you one of the greatest groups of people in the whole world hospice You I don't know how much you know about them and what it is, but it is if you don't have if you don't understand what hospice does they are They're earth angels They're people that come in when you're battling this you watching a loved one die and they come in and they're the people that Help you with the meds and help you with the caregiving and help you and they're just these And you don't even know them and you they come into your life and they leave your life once the cancers But they stay you'll meet them on the street again or you'll see something But hospice is one of the greatest programs we have in this country.
1:53:41I don't know if it's worldwide, but it is Hopefully you don't ever need to know it It's just shocking how many people have cancer fucked up Yeah, I never been on a podcast where you can cuss really ever been on I'd have been on many podcasts How many podcasts you've been on? I don't know. I'm not very much. Which ones can't it cuss on? I don't know. I don't you know I've clustered. I got from the food network We don't do a lot of cussing on food network Would you give me all fired? I got fired up on my own about this shit But don't you cuss a normal life? Oh, I could see right right. Well don't most people do so Why why would they stop people from causing I don't ask them?
1:54:14I asked the forever could we please bleep just the show once in a while Because sometimes I'll buy oh you to dish people say I watch your show. They say no you can't yeah It's not really it doesn't really get it doesn't made it too bad But it doesn't matter. It's it's it does I think there's a matter because it's authentic It is on that is it and it is the spike. It is the hammer. It is the This dish is so fucking good. This is fucking great. I listen real. I made that Cat's Delhi. Maybe you're going to inspire me to push this but I just don't understand why they would not I mean if you want to beep it out That's fine.
1:54:46No, it has to be you have to bleep down. Yeah, why even do that though? Yeah, I got a lot of kids. Oh Kids would last thing we want to know because yeah, they because they don't watch because they can't get remember when we had a playboy hidden You know, yeah kids now. Yeah, they got hardcore pony on the Bring it up in the middle school in high school. Yeah, it's high school kind of nuts. Yeah, it's kind of nuts It's a not healthy I'm sure they're being subjected to some stuff that I mean just the amount of murder they say you know kids are seeing car accidents and Assassinations all on their phone Twitter every day and things that were very difficult to find when I was a kid You had to find like faces of death Yeah Monkey in the table.
1:55:29Yeah Apparently a lot of that stuff was fake No, really yeah a lot of the faces of death stuff was fake But some of it was real like the one where they took the guy and they tied him between two trucks and they separated his body Yeah, good family fun come on over for Friday pizza night. Yeah, remember when your kid though getting the VHS You'd go, you know, we ours. We'd have to go get at the liquor store He went a little town, you know, you know, you'd go all the way across the bridge and go get it and you'd put your You know Name down for the reservation to get it and yeah, you get faces of death and your friends at all come over and yeah Yeah, pizza night.
1:56:06Yeah, you don't have to hide those things from your parents Exactly. Yeah, now kids just have access to all the horrors of the world On their phone and then they have to deal with you know people DMing them and contacting them like who are these Fucking predators that are reaching out the kids on a daily basis they keep arresting people for that You keep wanting to think that that's not a thing and then you keep finding out more and more of it It's like fucking a Tim Tibo was just he just saw John Ryan's show. Yeah. Yeah, what was 110 ,000 But see we don't do We don't do anything about it. You know, again, I don't want to get into well You know the thing to do about it.
1:56:46Oh, hey, yeah, unfortunately. You don't want to encourage vigilanteism But public square you mean maybe not just you know It's the problem is you can't do that because some people are gonna be unjustly accused and it's the unfairly Targeted, you know, there's people that you know, you can't just you have to have due process. This is well Chris Hanson you ever seen his catch predator. Yes, so I love when they give the recap, you know, I guess that shows stop then now he's doing it on his own or whatever the case is and they give the recap And thank god he was doing that. I know he opened a lot of people's eyes because most of us You know if you live in a normal neighborhood with normal friends normal you don't have you know You might have heard a story here and there but you don't bring their kids do it.
1:57:37Yeah, you don't see it every day Coaches There's politicians attorney. I know there's some sick people out there man and they live amongst us That's what's fucked up and then the Nickelodeon thing when you find out that people that we're actually working for Nickelodeon Pressuring those kids. Oh God man, but if you thought about it like if you were really cynical and you thought about it through an evil mind If you wanted to abuse kids, what would you do you would work with work at Nickelodeon? Jimmy Savile that kind of UK You know about that right you don't know about that guy. No. Oh my god He's the worst one your eyes first of all this guy looked like a guy who'd molest kids He looked like a fucking monster and he had this show.
1:58:23I think it was called Jimmy ill fix it Is that what it was called? Jimmel fix it and He worked with all these like really sick kids and everybody was like, oh what a saint that guy and that guy was molesting children like who knows how many of them? Oh, so there's a Netflix thing on it Jimmy Savile a British horror story Netflix official side it says How about getting called to play that guy in a movie? Oh, you can't. That would suck because it's that guy right there Must be playing the guy in the movie. Oh must be Jimmy Jimmy. Yeah, I feel bad for Jimmy because he looks like And yeah Oh my god.
1:59:02Yeah, you don't even want to watch that I don't even want to know but they hid the fact people knew that this guy was doing these things Well, you know like send us these guys. What could happen to poor boy scouts? I mean, I was I was I didn't make it to Eagle Scotty and that stuff, but it was boy scout Learned some great stuff Not any idea that stuff was going on. I don't think anything happened in my troop. I never heard about it But that's exactly what you're saying these guys would just go find their avenue. What's gonna get me close to them right? And then we're gonna start doing it. Yeah, so where is the Remember who's the guy that shot the the predator the karate coach that took his kid.
1:59:41Yeah, he waited at the airport. Yeah Yeah, the famous video. Yeah That guy that's none for I mean yeah, he's a hero that's hot handle it. Yeah, I agree 100 % I mean It's just it's sick But it's like if you were a sick person that's what you would do if you wanted to be around kids You would pretend that you're really interested in helping kids Yeah, I was in the boy scouts too. Nothing happened to me and then I was in a good troop And but I was in the boy scouts with a bunch of crazy inner city kids I was living in Jamaica playing Massachusetts, which is like kind of sketchy Outside of Boston and They uh they brought us to New Hampshire.
2:00:24We're on the woods and they were fucking tying kids up to their cots and dragging them out in the woods in the middle of the night and leaving them there like other kids were doing that and Put toothpaste on all your clothes because you couldn't wash it off like they were just psycho kids And they gave us 22's that was the other part of the problem I remember I was hanging out my friends and I heard I was like what is that and someone goes that's a ricochet. I was like fuck this So like for the entire time I was at camp all I did was go fishing every day They had all these activities. I'm like you guys can kiss my ass I'd grab a fish rod and go down to the lake.
2:00:58I'm like I'm just gonna go fishing the entire two weeks. I'm here. Fuck this There was just too many But no one was getting fucked at least it was just mostly kids being just unregulated What a great way to fuck up a great program You know you get these people to get in there and do that stuff and kids are so I mean you have kids you know there's always going to be people that are evil And a lot of those people unfortunately have had evil Imposed on them too when they were young and that's the really sad part about it It's just like it's almost like getting bit by a vampire and then you you You know and then you wind up doing it too.
2:01:36Zombie yeah It's yeah, it's very evil and they they exist and then that there's also like people that are elites And that's their thing like their their thing is to do something that is horrible and You know It's not available to other people so it's like I think there's there's like a sickness that people have when they have power like extreme power And then they want what else can I do what else can I do what what else is but what's him What else is taboo what else is forbidden look all this ditty shit that's coming out like I was just gonna say doesn't that sound Topical Jesus Christ. I the first day of the trial.
2:02:15Did you pay attention to that stuff? I looked at it for like 10 minutes this morning. I was like I got a stop. I can't look at this Well, what I what freaks me out is the people sitting in the courtroom listening to it Right, and that's a there's a wide spectrum of people. They're getting subjected to it and you just sit there and go Yeah, well not only that how about the fact that this guy was running this for decades He was doing this for decades to who knows how many fucking people and everybody was scared to talk about it because he'd have him killed Yeah, it's really wild, man There's there evil is a real thing, you know Nobody wants to believe because If you believe in the devil right if you believe in Satan you you believe in something that's silly like most people believe a lot of people believe in God If you ask people do you believe in God?
2:03:11Yeah, well, I'm not religious, but I believe in God Okay, well, do you believe in the devil most people say no But do you believe in evil acts well yet? Well people certainly do evil things Well, where do you think that comes from? If if evil is real what is it about us that makes us want to deny the possibility that there's some nefarious force that is in a Is in human beings that influences human beings. It's not as simple as like some people are bad some people are good No, maybe evil is a real element that you have to fight in life and That maybe this is just something that's been documented all throughout history, but our arrogance our secular society wants to keep us from recognizing that as an actual factor and that's why it gets through You know, that's like it's a great.
2:04:02It's a really Great way to say it because if you denounce Okay, so you say there's no devil right So then you're somewhat saying that there's no evil, but you're not branding evil with some type of Identifying factor then you kind of glaze over it a little bit. I think I if that's what I'm here You're saying and I agree with it because it gets a it gets a little too I think people want tangible. I think people like to be able to understand Things and see it for real and so forth, but when you start just talking about root evil when you start When you start looking at things like I went to the Oklahoma bombing memorial When you look at shit like that you think about the hate on this country and The in the 9 -11 and you think or you just take it down to the Boy Scout troop leader that to you or you take it to the There's the pre you take it whatever There is a common you there's a common denominator there and that is just what you call it evil So call devil don't call devil, but call it evil the evilness Is just and not being aware of it or not Allowing ourselves to believe it.
2:05:15I think is part of the Well, it's the old quote the greatest trick the devil ever pulled is making people believe he doesn't exist Well, sir But if you're if you want to be thought of as a serious person You never consider the devil like oh come on There's no Down there burning out yeah outrageous get away You know, yeah, so how do you so where do you so how do you boy this goes in a lot of goddamn shirt This goes down some rabbit holes. Yeah, it was rabbit holes in life, you know Life is a lot of rabbit holes. Let's see to me. This is when we talked about critical thinking This is the stuff that when you really sit down and you have some conversations besides arguing whose team is better You know This is the type of stuff that you really have to get into some perspective you learn a lot Yeah, if you're willing to talk about things and you're willing to open up and you're willing to be wrong It's one of the things I'm always into is don't go into something with a predisposed opinion about it and be so hell bent on It's your way because you might really get your mind change or you might really learn something about it But as soon as you lock down on it's this way, you know, that's no devil Yeah, God's not real I deal with it when you die you just die.
2:06:29How the fuck do you know bitch? Have you been dead? Like what are you talking about do you believe? Have you ever been to a medium a medium? Like a psychic medium. No, not a real one. Okay, so I mean, I don't I don't think that I'm not like one of those people Says they don't exist. It's possible. I I was a very anti Not anti preaching, but anti so my mom believes in it. Mom did my wife does Was my cup of tea not saying bad. Just wasn't my cup of tea My sister died real close with my sister and I kept getting this Weird feeling. I mean my wife's not telling me to go my mom's not telling me to go no one's saying a thing to me Then Then this the hawk is a representation of my sister this I'm driving my big RV Cross country with my family every year we do a big huge road trip with the family this hawk flies outside of my window Five minutes no shit.
2:07:31It was a real five minutes flew along three way with me fast as I was going dirt road So I asked my mom who's lady to call so I went and had to say Didn't know me very well didn't know much about me to I had the most mind blowing experience like mind -blowing And I had to really sit there. I had to go back to my wife and my mom and say Okay, there's something out there that's going on that's Going that's bigger than us than I can comprehend And the way I kind of to make sense of it for myself because I have to make sense of it Is if you're a baby laying in a bassinet and you can smell and you can breathe and you can poop and you can eat and you can sleep and giggle and But I can talk to you.
2:08:20I can talk to the baby can't understand me But there's some transmission of connection right you know make it get yeah At this stage am I the baby in the bassinet And my sister's trying to talk to me and like I'm just kind of getting it, but I'm not gay, but it is that possible The older I get the more I start to buy into It's got to be something else. There's no way it can be all this And not be something more than we didn't just it just didn't vaporize go away So the other day maybe six months ago Didn't know hot tub I'd have my routine of hot sauna cold plunge hot tub infrared. I do all that But I'm sitting there and I keep getting this thing.
2:09:08I got to call this medium lady and I texted her and I said hey, can I come see you and she goes Yeah, she goes you You dad's been you dad's been hitting me up quite a bit you dads on dad wants to talk to you You're dead dad my dead dad It's been hitting her up to get in touch with me to make does she know that your father's dead she knows my dad Yeah, she knew my dad But the point was and there was more intricacies about it, but She said yeah, he's been talking about he's good. She goes were you just in Mexico? So yeah, she'd do something about him Mexico something about an owl There's no way in a million years she would know this an owl yeah, my dad comes back as an owl So he said he was gonna be as an owl This is what he was saying to her to me to you.
2:10:14Yeah, this before you that before he does it I'm gonna come back as an owl. I just I was the thing wise guy Okay, and then how was her dumbest shit? I don't know I'm not crazy. I don't know that I never see Marted me. No, no, they're really dumb bird. That's great. That's my dad. We're talking about thanks much No, I'm not saying your dad's dumb I'm just saying it's weird that we all have this idea of owls being wise. I took this lady trains birds She says there's someone dumbest birds. It's like the only dumber than them is emos So like emos are dumbest shit. I saw emos on a ranch yesterday She's but she's like we have this idea that owls are really smart.
2:10:51Well, whatever whatever the case is I hung up of stained glass ow Where my dad used to sit in our house in Mexico No way, you know that there's no way So I don't know. I'm not cheering your preaching. There's something there's something bigger going on there Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes? Guys guys fucking crazy, but it's it really is my I there's got to be something else Have you ever heard of the telepathy tapes? No, the telepathy tapes are The this podcast this woman put together from her work with nonverbal autistic kids and their families nonverbal art autistic kids and their mothers in particular have an incredible measurable psychic bond where the mother can be in another room The mother Can look at images the kid will be able to write down what the mother sees the mother could Be reading things and the child will write down what she's reading And it turns out these kids have abilities that Are unexplainable um, she documentary she documented a nonverbal autistic kid who had the ability to read hyroglyphs They have the ability to read languages that they've never studied It is very strange and that they all meet up on some place called the hill Psychically they meet up together and they all describe it so some place Psychically where all these nonverbal autistic kids get together Yeah, like so this documentary the telepathy tapes is like very Well researched like what they're doing they made sure they covered up any reflective surfaces There was they checked everybody for wires they scanned the room for any Device they could possibly transmit information.
2:12:43There was nothing right and these children were able to do this Like a hundred percent of the time. This is it's a real documented phenomenon that a lot of people were reluctant to believe in You know because it's one of those things you believe in and all you believe in fucking fairy -stale superstition shit You're you're a sucker, but now it's real. There's there's some sort of a bomb that exists and The more people that I've talked to about this Think that this is it's not that this is an emerging phenomenon in human beings, but it's an neglected aspect of Our senses the awareness because of language and because of media We're being exposed to things all the time So we we've kind of let that part of our brain atrophy, but that's intuition That's when you know things about someone you meet someone you know with their full of shit You know some people you meet them and like right away like get me the fuck away from this guy You know what I mean like your shit you feel their Their spirit they've got it.
2:13:42You feel some energy, right? Yeah, but it's there's something real to that And if you're in tune to it you'll live a better life because you make better decisions Because that energy you'll feel that energy and you'll go I see where this is going. I've had this with yeah This thing has been going on so it was funny because when I said to the medium I said I'm here Where's my sister She said oh she just she doesn't need to talk to you I said what the f I just made this whole thing to come here She said she talks to you every day talk shall time Because I was raising her kid my parents you lived with my mom and dad live right next door to us Laurie and I have the two boys hunter and rider, but we're all big family and within the same acre And I'm thin and I'm like wow It is happening like I do I get all these things because I'm thinking about things I'm talking to jewels about things I'm working with jewels about as a young boy And just all these things that in a lot of it coming from things I think of my sister and I don't know I This is way outside of the spectrum of anything I ever talk about.
2:14:48I mean, I tell my close friends about it And probably people are watching us now saying isn't that guy does the show about the pizza? Where's he coming off on this on this talking to his dad the out that's the non -smart bird But it I believe well you we've seen the stories about somebody that's artistic and then they could just hear a song and play the piano Yes, I mean, that's not hocus, folks. That's not fake stuff There this is where our brains are so much more powerful yeah, then You know, then we it's like talking to people from everybody of mine that's from from Germany speaks four languages We pretty smart guy, but it speaks four languages.
2:15:24They they all get taught English in school While they get taught German right a young age from like first grade Yeah, so they all you know most of them all know how to speak a second language But once you can learn a language and learn the you know how to adapt to the languages you have the opportunity to you know be more You know available to learn other languages I just you sit and look at him. Oh man, do we do we not utilize how much do we use? Yeah, we just tracked ourselves a lot nonsense But that's also like the difference between like an athlete and a sedentary person like obviously your body can do a lot more than you're asking You know, but there's something about autistic kids they tap into some aspect of the brain That's just unavailable to you and I like there's this one kid who flew over Manhattan in a helicopter and then did a absolutely picture -perfect detailed drawing of the skyline Just from memory Photo yeah, and you watch him draw you like this is insane And then you see the actual photo of the skyline you like how How here it is this kid I mean, this is incredible man So this kids look at that how insane is that from flying over one time fucking memory just from memory I mean This is incredible man look at this It's so nuts man like he remembers everything he saw And then he's drawing it and he's done just trying to show he's not drawing a picture He's calling a he's doing a billboard.
2:17:04Yeah, he's not not it's a huge thing And he's doing every fucking window man this kid remembers everything it's nuts I work with a program called best buddies I've never heard of it working with intellectually disabled adults and kids Had a cousin with intellectual disabilities. I just thought everybody had a cousin that was you know a little different a little unique and super major part of our family Doug And so I heard about I learned about this Program best buddies and it was started by Anthony Schreiber whose unique uh Unis Schreiber's son Unis Schreiber started the special Olympics and Sergeant Schreiber was the start of SEC you know the Schreiber Kennedys that whole group you know So anyhow, I work with this program and I work with these intellectually disabled adults and kids call best buddies and When I got involved it was Tom Brady hosting a celebrity football game at Harvard And everybody would come and get involved in the buddies that were athletic would participate And I was just there to because I was invited to go So I had to do somethings I cooked I made appetizers for the event and It was so funny how these buddies would gravitate towards me and they wanted to cook You know foods that common denominator of all people And so we really have developed the program into this best buddies program where we got all the buddies partnering with chefs And the buddies love to do the repetitive mode love to Things that are laid out organized and put them together and so forth But just an amazing group of people and huge hearts and huge energy and huge Never a bad day Always a smile always happy always want to give you a hug You know, there's just so many But again when we were talking about things that get glazed over things that get you know You had school yet the special ed group and they went off to their space and we never never really I think educated people how to work inside or work with or understand or have the Compassion to understand you know people with disabilities And fortunately, I think we're getting better at it.
2:19:10I think our country is her world is starting to But you know when we can look at that and take that appreciation and see that and not see that as weird But take that and appreciate it and think it and say wow Yeah, here's somebody that's taking a difficulty or major difficulty and doing something with it And I think that's we need to be more we need to open our minds up more To that stuff. There's a lot of it. We don't really understand all the the mind is capable of When you see someone do something like that you're like, why is that available to An autistic kid and not available to everyone else like what is it about that like what is it about Whatever he's missing in his ability to communicate or I don't know if he's nonverbal I don't know what that young man's Issues are in particular, but clearly There's something that doesn't work well.
2:20:00So something else works in an extraordinary way And this is a thing with like some of them that are just geniuses when it comes to music or mathematics or whatever it is like It's like the the brain has this insane potential and all sorts of weird ways and Which brings us back to like how much How much of the problem is like what we're distracting our brains with every day And what kind of fuel are you Feeding your brain you're feeding your brain a bunch of bullshit nonsense and gossip and You know negativity and how much we're not paying attention to yeah, how much we don't pay paying attention to we get like it goes You're saying When that now becomes because we can chronicle it and we can see the video of it It gets on social media.
2:20:45We can be aware of it. There's a positive side of social media But there's so many of these buddies like this young lady got up and saying the other day at this event And you know very non -communicative and when you just see her on the thing but once you got on stage she just Blossomed into this you know this other person. So I think that we're Hopefully starting to take some recognition to the fact that There's more potential and it should be Recognized yeah, it's it's trippy. It is trippy. It's it's it's trippy when you see these savants And you wonder like what is it about them that makes them so extraordinary and is this like Is this going to be more people like that in the future like Obviously cavemen couldn't do that But these people could do that is it's going to be more people like that in the future.
2:21:34Will there be more savants? You know like where where is the like the human species headed But then do we have some of these people that we don't call them savants or so But there's some people that have invented some shit and created some stuff and took some recognition some awareness to You know Bacterias becoming you know Louis pastura. I mean there's some people that have some some higher thinking Power that you've taken us down some paths that you know, it's like the computer and all of that that was I mean I I can lose you can I can lose yourself in it That somebody was able to I do it with with architecture when I look at a building and you look at these gigantic skyscrapers And I'm happy when I can build a wood shed this It's square, you know, then everything lines up correctly, but somebody's gonna do this out of Steel and cement and glass and all this thing and they just build that and it's perfect and just look at that go Wow, what goes on in their mind because I don't make you a really good pasta dish right now Well, there's a place for everybody in this world.
2:22:37That's the thing. It's like whatever their personality is the way their mind works It's suited to architecture yours is suited to food some suited to music There's some people that are you know comedic geniuses or some people that are artistic geniuses. It's like That's the beautiful thing about life. It's the most difficult thing for young people is to find the correct path And the worst thing is when you're on the wrong path and you just live a life of suffering and you wish you were doing something else That's the saddest thing to me is someone who really wants to do something else. I mean, that's the classic song, right?
2:23:10That's saying us a song you're the piano man It's it's fostering so what I try to do With when I speak to young kids or classrooms or schools or whatever I do It's a quit chasing the dollar quit quit looking at it thinking I want to make the money. All right I just say the first thing I say to what makes you happy right what do you enjoy because if you enjoy it It's not a job if you enjoy it You'll be able to put so much more time and energy into it without being tired, you know Go be your best self and go find what you love in life and if you do that It's gonna come see the ability to survive the ability to live and have a house and it will come to Now that's not to say just because you love art Means that you're gonna be Picasso tomorrow and you're gonna do it You might have to actually go put in some hard work and take an art class You know you're gonna have to do some shit But you got to and that's you have to think we're missing hard work.
2:24:06Yeah, let's remember that Yeah, anybody says that there's no such thing as nine to five job. I work every single day all the time I mean if I'm having fun if I'm about you know ripping it up. I'm at stage. I'm having fun But it's always gonna be where it's always coming back to taking care of business um But I just think that when people start getting lost with that one of the things I hope that The nucleus around these kids is that we foster Imagination foster critical thinking back to what we're saying and foster them into achieving Their goals help them write goals, you know help them have belief You know, we can't just set them away.
2:24:45They're getting lost in their phone and believing that they're gonna be a tick -tock star Yeah, that's a problem That's a problem when you ask kids like what do they want to do and a large percentage of them just want to be famous Because they see these famous people and they see like oh good. This guy's got a Ferrari look at that guy's got a big house I'm going though. It's my boy. It's fun and it's such a false Reality yeah, but it's also a reality for some people so it's like what they're looking for and it's also the thing that they're getting on their phone all day long They're getting people who are doing it and you can do it.
2:25:21You know, it's a really crazy statistic 10 % of girls that are between 18 and I think like 25 or on only fans What yeah one out of 10 girls are posing on only fans and here gets even crazier I think it's something like The number of like what's the percentage of men that are subscribing to only fans. I think it's 80 million I think He's gonna pull up in 10 seconds Can I call him for research by the way sure I think there's like 160 million men in this country and 80 million of them are on only fans Are subscribing to only fans Yeah, it's seen some of the stats are like literally like 50 % of the men of a certain age are subscribing to only fans and 10 % of the girls are involved in Being models.
2:26:28So the the number you said about 10 % checks out, but it's like it's using stats says there's 1 .2 million women aged 18 and 24 on only fans and there are approximately 10 million women that age in America So yeah 10 % And then 10 % of the girls are Showing their body and doing things on only fans for money. I got 82 million men I reported to subscribe to only fans might be overstated But this also weirdly says that the platform had 1 .2 million American women. So that's almost all of them are 18 and 24 There's 200 and then this also says there's 3 million registered creators. I don't know who the other one point Probably over 24 or dudes or digs.
2:27:17Yeah, that's right. There's dudes that do it too Yeah, there's that would be more dudes than women on there. That's kind of crazy Can't take a piss. Yeah, well, it's just we go wrap this up We got to wrap it up soon. We're doing it two hours and 40 minutes. I don't fucking want to go anywhere. This fucking awesome If you would by the way I can't do this on our channel. Thank you I've listened and I applaud you. I think that you read yourself read your body read your mind tell you You know heard you talking about it. I think that you know people need to listen to themselves Yeah, and you know see how it makes them feel and say I talk about people what they eat and how it makes them feel But um No, that's a that's a big uh now.
2:27:56I think this is weird. It's like we didn't there's so many other things I was gonna pick your brain about the dark web Because that's another thing that I just sit there and go what is back? I don't even want to know it's buying that door You don't want to know and I don't want to know it's buying that door and excuse you because I started talking to that's that That tech security people But it's like this only fan stuff. I mean I don't even want to know about it. I don't even want to the darkness of the human soul It exists always and for a lot of these girls like they just don't want to have a good job And then they get caught up in this only fans thing and then you talked about a money living in perpetuity Yeah, I know you're talking about that one But that one right free because people are screen grabbing that stuff and people recording that stuff and it's Yeah, yeah, good luck on that one I know and it's just like nobody's telling them that when they're young they're not getting raised properly Unfortunately for the little bit of scratch you're getting now and then how that affects you in your life I mean, it's yeah, we need it's I'm not You know, I don't have the answer for it But I really think that what I was talking about making a contribution to your community You know, I remember how much how many parents used to come to the classroom and help in the classroom when I was a kid I don't know that still happens.
2:29:07I don't know what goes on But this mentorship program I ran into a guy the other day with it was a big brother Big brother big sister program And I was just so it was great to meet him and like tell me about it man like You're doing that. I didn't even know the program existing more. That's awesome So there's there's things like that that I just hope we still remember that we had some really core Thundermanus doesn't mean our era was bright or that we didn't do it without failure We didn't do it without our issues, you know as we were speaking, but I really hope that We continue to believe in ourselves because we can write the shit man Yeah, there's always going to be good in this world and there's always going to be evil and you got to kind of like Battle it out.
2:29:48Well, that's this part of what life is about and The unfortunate thing is that a lot of that evil is why you appreciate the good You know, and the good is there to show people that there's another path Yeah, well, I back to the beginning of you know, you're not political. You're I mean you've got your play But the positivity in the conversation that goes on John Krasinski during Covid I did his show he had this really cool podcast or I don't know exactly the call the shows Did you see it? It was all the right it was about it was a whole positive. Oh, it's a great. No It's a great guy. I can't think of the name of it It was an acronym.
2:30:27It was like all positive stuff or something on those lines. It helped me raise some money I was raising money for restaurant workers and We just need more positive noise. We need more positive message Yeah, and people need to take make a decision in their own mind that they want to Accentuate the positive aspects of their own life and stop dwelling on the negative and move forward and try to be a positive influence And as many ways as they can You're doing it man. You're here. You're you're too brother. You said two example. You two put it. Thank you for having me My pleasure. I've looked forward to it for a really long time I think my my three boys are getting more of a kick out of this than anybody In the height of them.
2:31:04Yeah, and thanks to you appreciate you Thanks being here, and thank you for the scars It's very nice. Keep it up. Thank you. Tell me what I can help. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. All right. Bye everybody Anybody in the height of them. Yeah, thanks to you appreciate you Thanks for being here, and thank you for the scars It's very nice. Keep it up. Thank you. Tell me what I can help. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you. All right. Bye everybody
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