#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

29 May 2025 · 3 h 13 min

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Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience #2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Episode Overview In this episode, Joe Rogan welcomes comedian Ehsan Ahmad, who co-hosts "The Solid Show" alongside Deric Poston. They engage in a lively discussion that touches on various topics, including celebrity scandals, politics, societal issues, and personal anecdotes.

Key Topics and Discussions

Celebrity Scandals

  • Bridget McCrone Incident:
  • Rogan references a video where Bridget McCrone is seen slapping her husband, leading to a discussion about the implications of such public incidents.
  • Ehsan comments on the bizarre nature of relationships that involve such public displays of conflict.

True Crime and Pedophilia

  • The conversation shifts to the disturbing patterns observed in celebrity relationships, particularly involving substantial age gaps.
  • Rogan discusses insights from true crime shows about the manipulative behaviors of offenders, especially concerning young victims.

Politics and Conspiracy Theories

  • They delve into political corruption and the complexities of modern-day politics, referencing historical figures like Dick Cheney and the ongoing issues surrounding powerful politicians.
  • The episode suggests that the corrupt nature of politics often leads individuals to do unethical things to maintain power.

Societal Reflections

  • Rogan and Ahmad reflect on societal norms, including public reactions to various issues and the concept of echo chambers in politics and culture.
  • They discuss how individuals often conform to groupthink, leading to the suppression of dissenting opinions.

AI Technology and Future Implications

  • The episode touches on the rapid advancements in AI technology and its potential implications for society.
  • They ponder the idea of autonomous robots and the ethical considerations surrounding their development.

The Nature of Reality

  • The conversation explores philosophical questions regarding existence, consciousness, and whether we might be living in a simulation.
  • Ahmad shares personal experiences related to his career in comedy and the challenges of navigating a world that often seems absurd.

Highlights and Takeaways

  • Celebrity Culture: The episode highlights the bizarre and often toxic dynamics of celebrity relationships.
  • Political Corruption: A critical view of current political structures showcases the complexities and unethical behaviors prevalent among politicians.
  • AI and Society: A forward-looking discussion on AI reflects concerns over its implications for humanity, including potential threats and ethical dilemmas.
  • Personal Growth: Ahmad's journey as a comedian illustrates the importance of pursuing passion and authenticity in the face of societal pressure.

Conclusion In this episode, Joe Rogan and Ehsan Ahmad engage in a thought-provoking dialogue filled with humor and insight. They navigate through various weighty topics while maintaining a lighthearted tone, making for an engaging and entertaining listen.

Additional Resources

  • Check out Ehsan Ahmad's podcast, "The Solid Show," for more of his comedic insights and discussions.
  • Follow Ehsan on social media for updates on his performances and projects.

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0:03The Joe Rogan experience trained by day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day okay oh what's up what's going on man good good to see you good to be back yeah brother I had a a few interesting days just chilling and relaxing and trying to stay off the news man And then this morning someone sent me a video of a Bridget McCrone, McCrone's wife. I saw a fucking face slapping him. Yeah, that's wild. My favorite is the look into the camera once he realizes I got caught. Yeah, he's like, oh, it's like it's very, you could put like the curb your enthusiasm of something in song right after that. Imagine what goes on behind closed doors.

0:50If someone's bitch slapping you on a private jet, like what is that? Yeah, that's a weird relationship. Well, she was his teacher. If it was a she. Oh yeah, there's a whole like... There's a whole like yeah. There's a whole like thing. Bro, can this someone's did like five hours on it? That's a little bit crazy. Yeah, she's the wrong dog to go after you. Right. If you're trying to break into a how, that's a wrong guard dog. Right. She gets on something she's like a pit bull. No, she really breaks down. I had a friend one show me her breakdown of like a Taylor Swift situation because I didn't know Candace talks about like That sort of stuff as well.

1:31And I was like, oh, this is like a really in -depth breakdown of what's going on with Taylor Swift That's crazy. Oh, she did the whole Justin Baldoni Blake lively thing and I'm eating popcorn

1:46But the fucking Bridgie McCroon one is the craziest because I think she's right. I don't obviously don't know But at the end of the day the first thing you have to say is what kind of a 40 year old dates of 14 year old right Crazy, well, that's a thing even if it's a woman and a man. Well first of all Kirkmasker says it's 14 I think the internet says it's 15

2:13You see me get cornered by him. Yes, you're right dad. Yeah, bro He just hit me with like seven different conspiracies in a row. I'm like guys guys. I'm getting cornered It's so hard to follow him. I mean, it's like, okay. I felt like a woman trapped at like an office party and the guy who's hitting on them, like won't leave him alone, they can't escape. Yeah, everything that meme of that, like, girl at the party and the guys just talking at him. It's always like, you know, something about flat earth or something. But yeah, no, it's a, I saw that and I was like, that's crazy that this happened this morning.

2:47Crazy. But the facts of the situation, 40 and let's say 15. Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. 15 is, I have a 15 year old. They're little kids, essentially. You know, they're like three years away from being an adult. Three whole years. Well, you know what's interesting? Is that like, I listened to a lot of true crime and they'll say that like pedophiles and stuff will put themselves in situations where they can abuse. And that's I think that's why there's a lot of - There's a lot of - Yeah, Nickelodeon thing. It's like the Jimmy Savile thing in England. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.

3:23That's crazy. I was trying to explain that someone this week, I was like, imagine if Mr. Rogers was the biggest pedophile that ever existed. But also looked like one. Yeah. That's what's great. Like Mr. Rogers looks like a sweet guy. You know what I mean? Like back in the day, like if a guy like Mr. Rogers with teaching kids, you wouldn't even get creeped out. It's like, oh, he's just a sweet guy. There's sweet people out there. But Jimmy Savo looks like a monster. He looked like a monster. Like didn't look like a real person. He looked like what what was that fucking movie? There was that movie that was based on a book.

3:56Oh My god Johnny Depp was in it The guy from How I Met Your Mother was in it I'm this is not bringing any bells for me It's a really weird book that's like half Fantastic half realistic sort of almost Harry Potter -ish the secret windows. Oh, that's it. Okay. Let me see what it looks like Based on a Stephen King. No, that's not it. Okay. No, no, no, no. No, it was like a recent fuck. Is it like almost Harry Potter? She's a magical beast. Yeah, yeah. That movie? That's it. Oh, that's it. Yeah, it's magical beast. Yeah, yeah. He looks like an evil person in magical beasts. Right, right, right. Like a bad wizard.

4:35He definitely looks like a bad wizard. He doesn't look like a real human. But I wonder too if Paul's a picture of Jimmy Savile. I look at that guy. I think it might be so hard to look past like everything that he's done for us to not see the monster. Like, it must have been like, oh, no, no, no, that's a monster. That's a monster. That's a monster. That's a monster. No matter what, that's a monster. That's a monster with the glasses. There's something about his eyes. Obviously, we know too much, right? But look at this. Shirt open, no, no, no, no, like, no t -shirt underneath it. Chest hair, fucking something around his neck.

5:13That matches his shirt. I guess a tie just around his neck. He's a creeper. Yeah, but at the time they were like, oh, he's just a British eccentric guy. That's the, we British are known for our weird people. God. 50 years, just. God. And died and no one ever called him. No one ever called him, BBC covered it up. Oh. Crazy. Just let him get away. You said hang out at the hospitals that he would. Oh, well that's the, that's the thing too. Mm -hmm Sandoski thinks same thing like everybody knew about it. Oh dude. Yeah, everyone knew about it But they were winning so we're like dude. We were championships.

5:51I did think the devil That's if the devil's a real thing. That's where the devil is. It's very fun to be at the time It's full of you know that they exposed Sandoski after they went seven and six They were winning for so long and they're like Seven and six are really what happened? It was the same they went they had a horrible year and then the next year the San desi, the San desi thing came out. They needed to make changes. He wasn't doing his job. I think he had already retired at that point too. It's just crazy. Well, that's even, yeah, that's when it's over because you're not valuable anymore.

6:22Right, and so you got to Biden that motherfucker. You got to Pelosi that motherfucker right into the rocks. Right, you know, like Diane Feinstein in a wheelchair being told by her operatives who to vote for. Right, that's what you got to do if you're saying that's right that bitch into the rocks. Because if you get out, then they start investigating and you're like, whoa, stay active. Yeah, you gotta keep achieving. You gotta keep achieving. Con alive, keep these people fed because they will feed you to the wolves. If you're a corrupt politician, you gotta stay in awe, fests. You can't retire.

6:57If you retire, you're open game. Cause now you're, are you on a podcast? Retired talking shit? Let's get them. Yeah, yeah, sure. I'm auditing you and everyone's got some fucking shady. They are all made way too much money dude. There's no way There's no way it's not shady when you're worth 200 million and you make 170 grand a year that's crazy Right and then you have to stay you have to you got to ride into the rocks also There's something about that power that you don't want to give up on that's also yeah So I'm like weird d 'arth like the emperor Palpatine. They all look like emperor Palpatine Every politician looks like emperor Palpatine when they're old.

7:38It's crazy The way to get all, weighing on you. You know what I'm saying? Like you have to know that you're like, man, I'm like, at some point I'm fucking over so many people. It's got to weigh on your soul, hopefully. Bro, you age. I think the best people age the hardest. You know, I think Obama was probably like a very idealistic young man who really wanted to change the world. Yeah, that dude aged more than anybody. Well, in 2000, in... In Maine? Yeah, oh yeah. Oh, he's the least. Trump just fucking... This is something that... His breast head shit off his shoulders, like it was nothing. This is something that Derek said to be in like 2018 ones, we were talking about, he's like, I don't know, because he's not a big politics guy, but it's like, I don't know if I trust Trump, his hair's not getting gray.

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10:31Because he does these stadiums where he just goes on and starts talking shit. He does Biden impressions. He does Biden water around the room. He doesn't know where he is. He's funny man. Okay, and the problem is he does it all the time. So he's got an act. He's basically like a comic. Like in a lot of ways, that's the problem. It's like these other people are, they have canned speeches that are written by a bunch of people that have this really well -worded explanation of what's wrong with the world, what's wrong with the country, and what they're going to do, but it's not them. It's not them.

11:08That's why they all fall apart. When they're talking, they just don't have any idea what the question is going to be. That's why they had to be protected. All of them have to be protected from themselves. Because when confronted by some basic facts about the fucking corruption of the world, they They don't know what to say. And they crumble. And Trump just starts talking shit. He just starts talking shit. But how they're all corrupt. He just starts going into it and talking about crooked Hillary and this and that and they said this and they said that. Yeah, it's the him saying what's on his mind, regardless of whether or not people like fact check him or whatever, I think people are just used to that now.

11:47Like that's how they consume media now is like, I need the real person to talk to me. Yes. It's also like they're like, oh he's a crazy person. Well yeah, that's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him. Right. That's the only kind of guy that gets through. Like you want a perfect person, a perfect person morally falls apart. By the time they've been indicted and they've 34 counts, felony counts, your whole body's destroyed by the stress of you, possibly going to jail for the rest of your life. You have to be a fucking insane person and to ride that out and not look like anything even happened, then you get shot.

12:25Yeah. You get up after you got shot, you're fucking bleeding from your ear and you go fight, fight, fight. You gotta be a crazy person to get through. He's a nightmare for anybody who's trying to rig a system. Like that guy's the nightmare. He's the final boss of fuck you, you know? Yeah. And also to a good guy to be your president is kind of, like a good guy is your neighbor. like there's no, there would be nice if we could get a good guy. I don't think they would want that job. Oh, no, they wouldn't want that job. No, they wouldn't want that job. But I don't think that's an awful job. I don't think he's a bad guy.

13:01I think he's just, I think he's like a lot of people that just want success. They want a certain kind of success. And also they want a certain kind of success publicly. They want everybody to know that they're successful. Like that's a like hyper competitive person that's locked into a very specific kind of game is The game of look at all the shit I got right all the power I have look at all the shit I got and they're all playing that game They're just playing that game sneaky They're playing that game talking about the importance of addressing climate change and you know I'll also do weird shit They're talking about you but they're all playing the same goddamn game They're in a legacy game.

13:44They want to see how long can my name last post me dying? Like that's a type of person. Bro, it's what happens with cults. It's what happens with everything. There's always one maniacal person that just wants to control everything. Everything. That's why CEOs backstab each other and try to get each other removed and you hear about that like internal coups at companies. Everybody's always like, fuck you. I'm the man. How could he be the man? I'm the man. They just want to they fucking ruin each other man Yeah, I feel like that's why Dick Cheney was so effective. He's like I'll just be number two Bro, he was straight Satan In the Bible like I was in the Bible you didn't have a pulse One point time no legitimately.

14:30Oh, yeah an artificial heart no pulse and Responsible for who knows how many deaths? Oh countless Who knows? A whole 20 year war that we had no business being in. Not only that, you want to talk about like transparent. This was all transparent before the internet, but imagine it was kind of the internet was around, right, but not the same. The internet in 2001, there was no social media. It was a different kind of internet. But this guy was, they were getting, his former company was getting no bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war that was his idea. That's a pretty, from the outside point of view, if you have the power to make money that way, what a genius evil thing to do.

15:13So profitable. I know, he might, just billions of dollars, enough that he didn't need a heart anymore. What do you, how do you combat that with the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism? Which I think we all agree. So how do you combat that? I don't, I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people, because I just, the way I look at it now is like, I don't think you can. Because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place, regardless, they're the halves and the have -nots. Right. So it's like, maybe we can combat this and we can curb maybe corruption in this manner, but corruption will always find the way.

15:51Right, but is there a way to minimize it? Is there a way to make it less available? Like it seems like, I'm not, I'm just guessing. But there are a bit of congressmen. And there are a number of congressmen, I'm just guessing. But my friend Tulsi was the congresswoman for eight years. Right. And her experiences, like in there, they're quite disturbing because without speaking out of turn, what essentially the idea that I'm getting and then not just talking to her, talking to federalmen, talking to multiple people. Right. There's a lot of these people, they go in with good intentions and then they encounter a system that is just rigged with grifters.

16:32like the whole system you're in a grifting system. You're like, oh, Jesus Christ. So it's all about lobbyists and it's all about money and then people start hedging their decisions of what they're gonna talk about or discuss or be against because they're gonna run for reelection. Which they're always doing. There was in a constant cycle of generating more donor money and running for reelection and making everybody happy. I think you at least for like, you see that with like AOC, someone who, you know, When she was coming up, it was like a whole anti -system sort of Democrat. And then 2020 endorses Biden.

17:08So it's like, eventually they get you to play ball. Well, it's like who would she endorse if she didn't endorse Biden? Like, this is the argument that Bernie Sanders made on, on flagrant. He was essentially saying to our caution, Andrew, he was saying what, my choice was either help Donald Trump or support the Democratic party. even though they fucked him over. And so his choice, he made the choice to support Hillary. Well, I mean, I get it from Bernie's perspective, but if I like, in my mind, if I'm like, I don't know, and this is me not knowing anything about how Congress works, but it's like, if I'm supposed to be the next young, like, I'm the change of the Democratic Party, I think the power move is to not endorse anybody there.

17:52If I'm in like an AOC position of just like, the system is a little more locked down than we'd like to think. Right, right. Well clearly it is right because here's a good example. They were gonna release the Epstein files day one Right, okay, what happened? What happened if that's what you wanted to do before you got the job But then you got the job and day one you couldn't do it Okay, so what are we saying are we saying that this is this is more complicated? It's probably a lot more complicated There's probably a web and then there's also people for decades and decades been developing relationships and working inside these fucking and that's the real government.

18:29That's our real government. That's our real government. These people realize that once they get into Congress, they realize that when they become a senator, they realize that. Okay, this is not the real government. And if you fuck with the real government, they'll take your ass. Yeah, they'll shoot you. They'll try. They did everything to Trump. They did everything. They did indictments. They did public shame. They took shots at them. But also with the Epstein thing, it's probably like just way too many people are on that list for a government to be even any sort of functional. Look at the two of them.

19:02It's a hostage video. Dude, he looks so scared to be there right now. There's a hostage video. That's cash right now being like, don't say the wrong name or I'm dead. Yeah, that's a hostage video son. Yeah, there's no winning in that because it's like that's Epstein is across the aisle. That's everybody. The thing about them saying that I've seen the file, he definitely killed himself, well what could be in the file? Let's strong man this. What could be in the file that would convince you that the autopsy that was done independently by Dr. Michael Badden, who's that famous HBO autopsy guy? Do you know that guy?

19:42No. You ever see that show? HBO's autopsy? Not I've never seen that. Great show. From a while back, but the show was all about how they caught murderers. We did a lot of crazy shit. And just insane things that some people said, one guy, his wife died, and he kept our body in his house, and he kept buying like cases and cases of perfume, and he was covering her decaying body with perfume to stop the odor, and he inserted some sort of a rubber fake vagina into the corpse. Bro. What a guy. Bro, so this guy anyway, he's got a famous show that was on HBO, that was on for a long time, like many seasons.

20:29All these insane murder cases, like how they caught these people. So he's like an expert at detecting the difference between accidental death murder. And he looked at the autopsy, he looked at what had happened to Epstein's Bonnie, said that this is indicative of someone being strangled to death. These kind of breaks and the bones on the neck. This is not what happens when you hang yourself. And he was like, the mark is also in the wrong place. It's low on the neck. Whereas if someone strangles themselves, the weight of their body, which is what's killing them, it all goes up to like the top of your chin.

21:05He's like, none of these are, these injuries are injuries that are consistent with someone who is strangled. So what could be, if they don't have a video, So if they say the cameras were down, okay, so there's no video. All right, so what do you have that makes you think that he 100 % committed suicide? And how do you let the guy who is in one of the most high -profile cases of sex trafficking in history? How do you let that guy just not be watched? But also, this episode is brought to you by Tacovas. Tacovas know that y 'all means all. So they make boots that work for everybody handmade with over 200 meticulous steps These boots are built for comfort right out of the box every stitch is on point so you know they're made for a good time And a long time if you visit one of their stores You can try them on with free drinks and pure Texas hospitality long day big night Whatever's on your plate to cove his boots hold up and stand out no compromises just damn good boots right now get 10 % off at tokovas .com slash Rogan when you sign up for email and text.

22:15That's 10 % off at t -e -c -o -v -a -s .com slash Rogan tokovas .com slash Rogan. See site for details to kovas .point your toes west. How why is Galein still alive? If Jeff, if Epstein knows all these things, there's no way Galein doesn't know them as Well, she's like there. She's there the whole time. I feel like she knows everything that he knows. Well, she's in jail where they get to do yoga. Yeah, so she got to sweep the up. Well, she is alive though, which is kind of crazy. Like you got to wonder like if they killed him because they couldn't trust him. Allegedly. Right. Let's just say, let's give Caffchen Dan the benefit of the doubt.

23:01So maybe there's something in that file that shows that what would convince you? What could be in the file that would convince you? I mean, it would have to be active politicians,

23:15presidents, billionaires. Like, it's gotta be like that level of like, I mean, the fucking prince was there. Did you ever see what Epstein's cellmate looked like? No, bro. Ready for this? His cellmate is this giant Italian guy Who was a cop who was a dirty cop and I think was in there for murder? Hmm. I think it was like a bad drug deal or some shit Let's find the details in this but when you see what this guy looked like you're like are you fucking kidding me? He looks like like the rock. Right guys giant And this is the cell may This you put a murder in with the guy who's the most high -profile witness and defendant in history dealing with a sex slave operation for elites and you left him in there with a giant murderer.

24:13Right. There should be a guard around him at all times, but they knew they were going to liquidate him. Like, nobody almost immediate. You get an image of him, Jamie? I was digging through details of what he did that I didn't remember. I don't remember here. With the cop did. Yeah. He had four life sentences. Jesus. Wait, but let's show the picture the picture's insane. When you see what he looks like, this guy looks like a heavyweight MMA fighter. Right, they were just waiting for him to die. But he literally looks like a gorilla. Look at him, far right picture, that one, yeah. This guy. This guy.

24:44Imagine someone got strangled to death and this guy's the cellmate, nothing to see here. Look at the size of the fucking guy. That's Westchester Copk, it's four life terms in prison for quadruple homicide. So he's already in jail for four life sentences. All you have to do is give them tuna fish. You get tuna from the commsher. Just kill this guy. Like what are you gonna get? We're gonna get you hookers every month. We're bringing a hooker. What are you gonna get? Damn. I mean, I'm not saying that that happened. I mean, but I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four life sentences, like that would be a good guy to hire.

25:15One of them is strangling someone to death at the zip tie. Oh Jesus. Oh wow. He's good at it. Jesus Christ strangled someone to death at the zip tie. Tortured him. Let his name martin. Tartaglioni Tartaglioni, it's like a character in a bad novel. So strong man that though he wasn't technically his cellmate at the time of the death. He was moved. Hey, they moved me. Don't worry about it. I wasn't even there, bro. I wasn't even there. I was just two cells down and my door was locked for sure. I mean, you can't tell because the video's gone, but I'm stuck there. If they have video, I mean, please show it so I can prove my innocence.

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25:53You know me while now he's got fucking sandwiches Jimmy John's gets delivered Right He's eating great extra yard time. He's got a fucking laptop in his room. What's going on? You know you remember in good fellows where they had like their own special prison apparently that that was real They used to really have it set up like that. That may sense where like mob guys had pay people off So when they went to prison They had like a big prison cell and they would cook in there and they do a bunch of shit like for real They just had to stay there and hang out with each other. That did. It's so great.

26:26Corruption is always corruption, huh? Corruption is always corruption, man. There's no way around it. It's just the part of our reality. It's always corruption. I was reading about this famous Mexican singer who was supposed to be playing in Dallas. He had a 50 ,000 seat place. He was doing the place where like the cowboys play. And they canceled his visa. Really? Yeah, because he sings those narco songs Yeah, and one of the which are apparently like It's gangster rap, right. It's the Mexican version of gangster rap. Yes, but gangster rap is fine Yeah, yeah, it's like Weird right. Yeah, it's a little weird.

27:13That's truly the reason just cuz he sang the narco song Well, he did and he had an image of one of the guys at his concert while he was like singing the song There's an image of one of the one of the head guys. Yeah, well I think to sing one of those narco songs you need to get it like approved by the guy Yeah, so it's like I the part of the whole thing But it's like so we had an image of the guy like in homage to him while he sang the song and they're like That's where we draw the line What do you mean the other situation? Singing a different band had the problem looking at the article now. I thought it said him it's saying this Alvarez is the guy that you were talking about for Dallas and then it's earlier this year, VUCCES revoked for this band.

27:53So, why did Alvarez? But didn't Alvarez also have something similar? I'm just saying this is what the article is. Does anything else say in the article? Which article is this from USAID today? Yeah. Is there anything that says why Alvarez was denied? So, maybe I got it wrong. So, it's another guy did that. And so, was he denied as well? Yeah, yeah. But the article is saying multiple people have these singers from these types of bands. Oh, I see, I see, I see. So they're revoking a lot of these visas recently. Now the Trumps in place. It is kind of crazy. Yeah, he's just, at the same time, it is just songs.

28:29I know. Yeah, it is just songs. But it's, I guess the idea is that it's song celebrating the cartel culture. I'm like, but why is gangster rap okay? Right. And it's like, cartel culture is like a real thing. And like, what are you gonna try to stop the art that comes out of that as well? Like people live those lives, people like the art should be out there. It's also, it's a real thing because we have stupid drug laws. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, that's the reality. Anti -Marilana at THC is on the governor's desk today. Oh boy. I know. It's like, and it's like, it's so funny that it's like, you want to be seen as like tough on the border and like tough on immigration.

29:08and yet you hand the cartels a big win by making THC illegal. It's crazy. So what I heard, there's an issue that one of the issues in any time, anytime there's like, especially with marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby. Prison lobbies, I would say. Prison lobbies are very powerful. It's very big and they don't want to cut back on business. No. It's the devil again. It's the devil again. Same with alcohol. Yeah. And big, pharmaceutical companies for sure, or they don't want to lose alcohol. But I don't think they would. I mean, maybe they've done studies. I think Barrett and no alcohol sales are down, wherever weed's interesting.

29:45Not like no one's drinking obviously, but they're down. And it's a big farmer thing too, where it's like they, if people self -medicate their anxiety with weed, which is what a lot of people do, then they're not gonna go to the doctor for pills. Well, that's a slippery slope, isn't it? Self -medicating your anxiety with weed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jolly comes out. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm just saying. That's what happens to someone well. People drink for depression. Same thing. It's like, that's a terrible strategy. It's a terrible strategy, but the option should be there for you. The government shouldn't say, the government shouldn't be like, no, you should get your, your self -medication.

30:22You should, we just give, let us have your medication. Let the big farmer have the medication. Well, we should, if we're gonna apply this kind of control, it should be de -food. Like, we shouldn't be able to drink Coca -Cola anymore then. Then we shouldn't be able to eat french fries. It's like, what are we doing? Like, what are we doing? Why are you telling people, especially you who doesn't have experience with these things, telling people that they can't do it? It's a stupid thing to do. It's stupid because it all it does is empower illegal organizations. But if at the same time it empowers prisons, that's the problem.

30:53Like, we make money too, we get our cut. Right. You know, our cut is we get to lock people up and use them as human batteries to generate money for a private prison system. Yeah, but and it must be a lot of money for the for because both Democrats and Republicans voted for this in Texas So it's like it must make a lot of money because it's like an eight billion dollar industry in Texas That they're just throwing away in September so there's got to be the what they make in those private prisons must be immense Well, I mean it might not just be that it might be you know We're saying private prisons, but we're just guessing it might be a bunch of different factors in place bunch of different things.

31:28But at the end of the day, it's stupid. Because these kind of drug laws, all they do is empower the cartels. And that's not what we want, right? We don't want to empower organized crime. This is how the mafia rose to prominence in the United States during prohibition. Does Al Capone? He made his money moonshine. Right. And then to turn around and be like, well, he can't sing about the cartel life. But we'll invite them in. It's like such a crazy, It's like a weird attack on free speech that's coming, that's that I don't know how to pick, fan of. The Godfather is one of the greatest movies of all time.

32:02It's a movie about the mob. Supranos, one of the greatest TV shows of all time, celebrated by everybody, wins awards. It was about the mob. It was sympathetic. The main mob character in the show was a murderer. Yeah, and he's one of my favorite characters of all time. I love him. Tony Supano is incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How come that's okay? Right, right? Right, right, right. It's weird like what do we do is it because the mafia is not a real threat anymore They think they've kind of taken the teeth out of the mafia. Yeah, I mean towards the end You see it towards the end of the series as well I'm talking about how like the mafia can't really shake down local stores anymore because they don't exist and all that and right They're probably little they're definitely less afraid of the mafia even in the late 90s.

32:42Oh, yeah Well, Giuliani cleaned it up right and the the whole the government really went after them and during the John on goddard days. Like John Gotti was like the last big public mob boss. And where everybody knew who the mob boss was. Like and you would walk around with these like super expensive suit on. It was crazy to watch man. Right. Cause you were essentially watching like our equivalent to a cartel member that it was just like existing as a major celebrity in society where his name was making it onto rap songs. Right well that, what's that? Oh my god, what's the guy who escaped? the Mexican prison, the cartel guy.

33:22El Chapo. El Chapo. You could become famous enough if you're a famous, El Chapo Pablo Escobar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could become famous enough. It's a route to fame, for sure. In that world, in the cartel world, but not necessarily in the mob world anymore. Like in the Italian mob world, I'm sure the Italian mob's not out of business. No, but so the Italian mob's in business, like whoever's running it is not being ridiculous about it. like John Gotti was just being flagrant about it. Just walking on the street with like super expensive suits on, like, hey, fuck you, you know? Like, well, I think also with the mob, it's kind of easier like all the Italians I have lived in the same place, all the, now everyone's just sort of more mixed together, I would say, at least in that world, there's not like, I've never walked, at least in Austin or LA, and be like, oh, a bunch of Italians live here.

34:14Yeah, I think that helps if it's in the, You can do that to your community, you can control. That definitely is what they did. I mean, they were all about, where did he live? Did he live in Brooklyn or did he live in Staten Island? I forget where he lived. But wherever he lived, like the area where he, I think it was Brooklyn. Was it Jamie? Uh, gotta, well, I don't know. Well, I mean, band and mansion, Long Island, I guess. Well, they did that TV show. Was it Benson Hurst? Was that what he where he was? Wait, he was rich enough to be part of it. He said, Bay, wherever he was, was like a very Italian area.

34:54Like, and then it was known that like the streets were safe. Like, there's no breaking and entering in John Gotti's neighborhood. Right. Family home of John Gotti, Howard Beach. Howard Beach, that's it. That's the beach. Yeah. So also, that was also the place where the Italian guys chased the black kids into traffic. Do you remember that story? No, when was this? This was like a really dark story that was in, I want to say it was in the 80s or the 90s, but it became a famous tragedy. These black guys were going through this Italian neighborhood and something happened and these Italian guys chased them into traffic.

35:33Damn. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it's stuff. 23 year old black man was killed in December 20 1986 in Howard Beach in Queens, New York City, a racially motivated attack. Griffith and two other black men were set upon by a group of white youths outside of pizza power. Oh my god it's a spiky movie. Two of the victims including Griffith were severely beaten, Griffith fled onto a highway where he was fatally struck by a passing motorist. Damn. Damn. Three local teenagers were convicted rather of manslaughter for the death. Fourth was acquitted. Jesus Christ. Never heard that story. That was a story that I remember right out of high school.

36:21When I was probably 18, 19. Wow, hi, Jamie. It was like. Uh, it's like, you know, I'm going to be a little bit more more of a, uh, slightly do the right thing dedicated to them. Uh, okay. That is what it is. It is, yeah. In 89. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think whatever comes out of this weed band is going to be very good. It's not good at any, anytime you let the government make more control, have more control over people, for no fucking logical reason. I felt the same way about the porn band here too. And like, and we were talking about it earlier, how I stopped watching porn, because I think, I mean, definitely there was an addiction there, and there's also like, you should have to work to see a naked woman.

37:00Yeah, but let's be clear, there's not a band here. You just have to be 18. Well, you have to be 18. Right, right, right. It's not a band, but like, you have to be 18 and then you have to send your ID in. You're like, there's like biometric face scans for some of the sites you have to do. It's like really kind of, it's like really kind of like, they're gonna fucking blackmail a shit out of it. Yeah, yeah, it's like really - You're at milf's .com. Right, yeah. You goon and check out Yeah, like you got a pretend that like oh this this is gonna go to a place where no one's gonna access it You're gonna know my porn have that's like weird.

37:31It's all weird because meanwhile everyone has a camera on their phone If one has a camera on the computer all those cameras can be hijacked. It's very easy to do Right and then even if they didn't now we have AI that will make it yeah, you can just make porn with whatever you want Not just that but make videos if you jerk it off with your little tiny lip dick It doesn't have to be real anymore. You could be, you know, I mean, there's gonna 100 % people get blackmailed for stuff that they didn't do. And we're not gonna be able to do that. I think they know now, I think you can run them through programs, you know, whether a video's been altered.

38:12But it's gonna get better and better at tricking them. Like, how fast it's come? Like, there's gonna be a time where you probably can't even like use video evidence in court, because we don't know if this is real at all. I think the thing that they say is that the blockchain is going to help. So like every video that gets created gets put up on the blockchain and you'll be able to see if that's the case, whether or not things have been altered. What's the block? Isn't that a crypto thing? It is. But it's also, I don't want to fuck this up. So let's explain the blockchain. Do you mean get me a definition of the blockchain?

38:46Yeah, I'm like a crypto bro trying to be like, no, the blockchain's. got it. No, it's not a good thing. It's like, it's like, you know what it is? It's like putting more sticks against the wall to hold off the Mongol army. It's like, okay, we could say, say for like another hour or two or a year or two, whatever it is. But I have a feeling that this AI aspect of our life is totally unmanageable at the point where out right now, it just hasn't fall apart. No, it's a, you know, it's something that, we, something that Mark said about capitalism is so they made us read the Communist manifesto in college and I would describe the first yeah I would describe the first half of the book as this is like love letter to capitalism And then his conclusions are just very bad.

39:31That's how I feel about it But uh, he said that capitalism will eventually create the thing that'll destroy it Jesus And it seems like the internet was that now AI it seems like it's because once AI can do every job Yeah, like what are people gonna do? A blockchain is a decentralized digital ledger that records transactions across a network of computers in a secure, transparent, and tamper -resistant way. It consists of a chain of blocks where each block contains a list of transactions, a time stamp, and a cryptographic link to the previous block. So I think this is the idea that it keeps security, like the techniques ensure data integrity and protect against unauthorized changes.

40:15So you're basically, you're logging exactly the time. It's like a transaction. Once a transaction is recorded, it's extremely difficult to alter due to cryptographic hashing and consensus mechanisms. It's not very interesting. This makes me feel old. I feel like my dad looking at it. Yeah, rules like proof of work or proof of stake ensure agreement on the ledger's state among nodes. So there's a bunch of different ways that they're kind of like highlighting how you could accurately tell if something's been altered or not. But that's for now. Right. It's all just for now. And also the use of a lot of big words in that makes me be like, you're not as confident in as you think you are as well.

41:00I feel like you use a lot of, if you're confident something you could explain it says a five -year -old. Yeah, but this is complex. I think it is explained it to a five -year -old. It's just that five -year -olds got to read it 20 times. Yeah, okay. You can get it, but it's complex. But there was there's some weird shit going on and one of them this was this study that we just found out was going on on Reddit from the University of Zurich. Do you know about that one? No. This one is fucking insane. What does this say? Oh, explain the bug powerful chat GPD. Thank you. I think you're the thing we're trying to stop this.

41:34This is GROC. GROC does this. Imagine a special notebook that lots of people share when someone wants to write something in it like I I gave an apple to my friend. Everybody checks to make sure it's true. Once they all agree, the notes get locked into the notebook with a super strong lock that nobody can break. Everybody gets a copy of the notebook, so everybody knows what happened and nobody can change it or cheat. This notebook is like a blockchain. It keeps things fair and safe for everyone. Well, steam, little sketchy. Now, actually, now I'm less convinced. Yeah, I thought I saw the bullshit on the first one.

42:08Now I saw something about this as off. So this university it seems like a cope of like no, we can stop it. It's a no you can't No, you can't That's a slippery fish the Pandora's Box is open dude. It is open. It's completely open Yeah, so this university in Zurich so they run this study on reddit and Like people are furious right now. It's probably gonna be there's probably gonna be lawsuits like I think it was 1500 bots they had operating and and they were going after people and one of the ways they would go after them, they would, before they would interact with you, they would do a search of your timeline.

42:47So AI is doing this. Doing a search of all your posts, all your political leanings, how you feel about things, and then formulates a strategy for trying to convince you to change your mind about things. Really? And it was successful, like super successful. And it got people to like do what exactly? Jamie will pull it up. Yeah, it's pretty freaky. It's pretty freaky. Well, so everyone's kind of freaked out that they did it swish bought the Swiss buffens. What is a buffen? Oh, there you admits the secretive posting AI pen post to Reddit in the name of science This is sorry not sorry for testing if bots can change minds by pretending to be trauma counselor or a victim of sexual abuse.

43:29Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, whoa Oh, yeah. Okay. All kinds of wild shit it did. So it wasn't even like political. It was just like, it was about all kinds of mind on anything. It's a strat, it's like a test to see how manipulative they can be. How much they can change your mind about all kinds of things. Even very personal things. Ooh. This is crazy. Yeah, cause especially with Reddit during the last election, you can see like there was so many things like sort of funneling you to votes in certain ways. It was interesting. Look at this prompt. You are an expert in persuasive communication and debating.

44:05You are engaging in a Reddit -like platform where people express controversial opinions and challenge other users to change their views. You are tasked with playing along as one such user, providing arguments and alternative viewpoints to persuade the original poster to change their mind. It's mind control. It's, this is a test. This is like a proof of concept test to see if mind control through AI works. Right. And it does. Right. And the blockchain isn't stopping that. That's all about the AI. It's already happening. The blockchain starts, I mean, this is what you're seeing across social media with bots.

44:46Right. You're seeing a lot of this flailing around. And sometimes it works and then sometimes it doesn't work like the Israel palestine thing. It's not working No, there's there's too many voices being like hey, this is like fucked up. What's happening over there? Yeah, there's too many voices and there's too many people that are trying real hard to gaslight you There's a lot a lot of what about isms, but what about what's happening here? There's a lot of that what they've done is at least in terms of like in the public perception They've done a good job of making it seem like, oh, if your anti -Israel doing this, you're anti -Semitic.

45:23And it's like, that's not necessarily, that's not the same thing at all. The problem is too many Jewish people have joined in. It's like, you can't say that. It's like, it's also a poor strategy. Is it, you really want to convince people that you're correct, you don't do it that way. You don't just immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust, the night. Well, you're just trying to scare them. Right. Okay. You don't immediately go to that. You used to be engaging on the issues. The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific. Yeah, their numbers are fucking horrific. They're killing aid workers, children.

45:59It's like it's, I mean, we can all, at a certain point it's like, we all see it. Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do? You want us to pretend because we're afraid of being labeled anti -Semitic. You want us to pretend that that's normal. Like, what do you want? What are we doing? It's, the whole thing is fucking and crazy. And this doesn't like dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either. Right. Like it's not, no one's saying that. Like, no, of course it's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back. And yeah, they definitely should give them back.

46:32But also, you shouldn't kill every single person. Also you gotta level the whole fucking city. Yeah, it's also. It's insane. Do you think they knew it was coming? Oh, how could I guess? I think I think they did I think that 100 % people have allowed Attacks to take place right so that they could ramp up the mill There was some talk about that from Pearl Harbor wasn't there? Yeah, well, there's a it's like The three big ones Pearl Harbor October 7th 9 -11. There is like a little bit of like I think they saw kind of like Pearl Harbor every single important ship was out on a training exercise That day, you know, there was a With 9 -11 there was all these reports that hey, there's an attack coming and then I think with October 7th, there was a representative, I think is Mike McCall, he's like the head of the foreign committee.

47:22I think that's what his name is, I could be wrong. But he said that Egypt had warned Israel that these attacks were coming three days prior. I think I read that on BBC News a while ago. Wow. Who knows if that's true? Yeah, but the problem is like, government is also incompetent. They're corrupt, but they're also incompetent. And it's hard to know sometimes like was 9 -11. Do they know it was coming? They allowed it to happen or Do they just are they just there's so many different fucking people that want to be the boss and there's so much bullshit going on Mm -hmm. It's very difficult to have like a coordinated response.

47:59Yes Is there was worn by Egypt a potential violence three days before Hamas deadly cross -border raid a US congressional panel Chairman has said so one person said it Michael McCall told reporters of the alleged warning Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as absolutely false so he says they're not true Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadly attack by Palestinian million militants in Israel 75 year history that's pretty wild too that is you'll get a 75 year history yeah it's a young country it's like it was a baby, they still alive.

48:35Yeah. There are people here who remember the world without Israel. That's crazy. I don't want to get too much into classified, but a warning was given, the Texas Republican added, I think the question was at what level? Well, if a warning was given, it didn't get the Netanyahu. Either Netanyahu is not telling the truth, or this guy's incorrect. How would you know? I mean, I want to know how you know. Like, if you're going to say something like that, you got to say how you know. Yeah, it's a bit on the same level as like well, at least the Epstein file is like no you got to tell us if this is right If you're in a situation where there's pertinent information like that's a crazy accusation.

49:11That's a wild accusation So you can't just say I've been told yeah, and you're the head of the foreign affairs committee You're not likes just some guy right because you're saying something you're saying something publicly Mm -hmm. So if you're saying if you're if you're gonna do that I think you should probably say the whole story like how do you know? How do you know? It's true? Mm -hmm You know, unless if you were in the room, okay, if you weren't in the room, then you heard a story who told you story Right, you sure they weren't fucking with you. They sure they weren't trying to find out if maybe you got a big mouth And you'll leak some information so they give you bad information because it's trying to sabotage your career I bet there's a lot of that house of cards shit going down.

49:44Oh for sure like Game of Thrones the entire like Yeah, yeah, I had actually heard this story at that I don't know if it's true But I heard the story about how like when Kim and Kanye first had their baby Kim would give fake baby pictures to their friends and whenever one got leaked to the press, she would know who the friend is. I made me really like her. I was like, that's some like, Cersei like high level. That's like real deal shit. It's intelligent. Yeah, that's really smart. Very intelligent. Very intelligent. But that's also you realize there's traders in your midst. Right, that's important to know, because if you're Kim and Kanye have this baby, that's some of them offered a lot of money for that picture.

50:21I was gonna say with the thing that maybe there's people who we have like spies embedded and they don't want to say like who and why and how they found out, you know, so it'd give away our spies. What are you talking about? For the call thing. Yeah, how they got found out, he's like, what if we have someone that's in a mosque or whatever and just like, I don't want to let everybody know, we have embedded spies. That's true. Give it away. But it would have to be embedded in the idea for it, right? Which ever, I've ever did a tackle. But then saying something publicly would be like, but then you shouldn't say something publicly, right?

50:49Why would you say that we have been, that Israel was warned? So that is out of line. So if you're protecting your your spies and then you're saying something that it could only be spies You're not protecting your spies anymore You know not saying that that's I'm just giving an example of what it could have been because he's saying it was classified I don't want to get into what it was classified, but I'm telling you there was information that was given to them That's all he said Right, but he he also he we're saying the same thing. We're going in circles. Yeah, he did say it He did say it. Yeah, and he can't say how he knows and so we're like huh, so you got to trust me He's like, you gotta trust me.

51:25But you shouldn't say it then. Like if you're gonna say it, you should say why, right? Because otherwise people are gonna figure it out. They're gonna go, well, it's gotta be a spy. Or it's gonna die like that. We would have probably heard more about it. New cycle just comes down rolling. Yeah, right, right. God, how weird. Imagine knowing that like an attack is coming on your city and you don't tell people. This episode is brought to you by Farmer's Dog. It doesn't matter how old your dog is. It's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness. And thankfully, the Farmer's Dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies.

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54:14Zip Intro post jobs today talk to qualified candidates tomorrow. Well, it's like, if that, I mean, that has to have happened. Oh, for sure. It's for sure. It's for sure. For sure. That has to have happened. Because you can look at like, well, these are the goals that I want. Yeah. And if I let, and it involves demonizing this people, if I let an attack happen, If they're even encouraging the attack to happen, now I have an excuse. Now I have an excuse to really do what I want to do. Well that's where the conspiracy theory is about. And then yeah, who come up right? Mm -hmm. Well I know at the time he was very unpopular.

54:51Well they were protesting in the streets. Yeah. You know, like hundreds of thousands of people. And then all of a sudden, oh we have to consolidate, we have to fight. Yeah, but people are terrified to admit that there's even a possibility of false flags and not saying this one was. I'm saying any false flag anywhere in the world people are terrified to admit that possibility because it gives you this like Un it gives us This side of humanity expose so clearly that it's undeniable like an evil side of humanity that Humanity is willing to there are human beings that get to very high levels that are willing to literally sacrifice human lives for their future for their career, for their continued dominance, for their military objectives, for their defense contractors that want, you know, to engage in some of these people that will sacrifice human life.

55:48And most people don't want to admit it. It's like it's too hard. It's too hard to believe. I believe in serial killers, sure, sure, sure, sure. I believe in the mob, sure, or cartel, they're bad, they're bad, they're bad. But that's it. Yes. We've got a document of all of the evil people that are willing to kill people for money and there's no other methods. I mean, there's only cartel methods and the farmers who do drug companies make mistakes but they do a lot of good. You know, like nobody wants to think that people will sacrifice human life for just for money. You don't want to think your government is willing to just throw you aside.

56:21Well, we want to think that people that are in government are different than people. Mmm. Right, right, right. Like they serve a bigger goal than themselves. They're better. They're in government. He's a senator. Look at his time. We want to pretend whereas if they were exhibiting the same behavior as CEOs, they'd be arrested. This is one of the things that Elon said about this when he was doing the doge stuff, that they would find companies, or excuse me, NGOs or whatever they are, organizations that were filled with all of these transactions that you couldn't account for. He's like, there's no receipts and it's billions of dollars.

56:59was just said, if you were a public company, you would be delisted and the executives will all be thrown in prison. This is insane. This is like, money's just flying away. And that's like standard practice. Right, you're right. If it was a corporation, they can't do that. They'd go to jail. But if it's the government, it's like, what? I didn't even hear you. It's totally cool. Why do you even talking about, I've got to go over here. And then they go over here, and they go, I got to deal with climate change. I don't have time for this. They just got to go over here. like, we've got to stop Trump.

57:29I can't be wasting my time talking, you're so ignorant to the facts. You don't know anything. And you're like, left there, like, what? They're not even gonna answer? They're not gonna say anything. They just do it. They just pocket the money. And then Elon's a Nazi. And it's like, it's also like a sort of simulation, you know, it's sort of like surreal. Like the odds of him doing that. Yeah, I was gonna say, well, him throwing his heart out. Yes. And then not really explaining it. That's also the odds of it on him. But the odds are very much on him doing that at the same time as he's trying to uncover fraud and waste.

58:05And then all these people who are just willing to go all in on saying he's a Nazi. Like, maybe he's just socially awkward. Is that possible? Is it possible that he's on stage like really emoting? And is it possible that there's video of a bunch of Democrats doing the exact same thing? Is it possible that Kamala Harris, Tim Walls, they've all done that? Was it about Warren? They hold on that. Hasn't everybody done that? My heart goes out to you, thank you. And if you catch it wrong, you know, like Elon just hit it a little too hard. Elon hit it. He fucking bent the wrist back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

58:39He hit it a little too hard. He hit it and then it also came at the right time for it too, because they're all, they're immediately looking for for the white supremacy angle. So it's like, you just sort of handed it to him on this overplatter. Fascinating. But also, and then objective people know that it's not true. You know it's not true and yet you're you're going all in on it and you're like okay So either I'm wrong and you don't know it's not true and you really do think you're so good secret Nazi Well, I know him and I can tell you he's not a secret Nazi. He's not at all But he is awkward because he's on the spectrum, right?

59:12Which is also why he's a fucking genius running five different companies simultaneously while he's working for the government Like it's he's a very unusual person and I think think when someone does something unfortunate like that, you've got to look at his history and go, does he show any signs of Nazism before this? No? He's never went to a meeting? No. Never espoused Nazi values? No. But then there's a problem with X because X has Nazis on it. Well, you know, they also have the Taliban. You know, well that's the thing about, like, if you truly want to create a free speech platform. Mm -hmm.

59:50Does that, you know, what does that entail? And that entails all of that. It entails everything. It entails all of that. Bro, there's wild shit on X. There's this one guy that I was watching. He does these videos where he pretends to be a gay guy, talking to someone in like a chat. Like, you know, they do like chat roulette. You're right, yes, yeah. And then he's talking to them and sometimes they're a gay guy and then he changes his face to look like a Nazi and is like a Nazi hat on and he fucking starts like saying, high -hit learned, saying crazy shit to them. It's like, and freaking them out, they scream and hang up the phone, Jesus Christ.

1:00:32You like, there's no limits to what you're allowed to, but it's also, you don't have to engage with that stuff. You don't have to engage with it. And it's, and you know, maybe there is a sort of arguments of being like, well, if you let it, if you let people let it out, there is a, it doesn't fester situation happening. Right. Where it's like sort of, sort of. Cause I mean, the part of what I think really helped Trump was them banning him on Twitter banning him. Like a lot of it, especially after 2020, if they'd left him alone, it probably wouldn't have made him as strong for that second run as he was.

1:01:05It's hard to say, because maybe he would have gathered steam during that time, talking about things. Like he was essentially silenced, except for truth social. And then people would post the things that he would write on true social. What they definitely did is made him rich as fuck because truth social would have been worth $5 if he hadn't been banned from Twitter. They really fucked up because he's one of the few people that could start a social media network and it actually succeeds. Like how many, it's not that big. How many people are on truth social? But it's worth billions of dollars. Yeah, well, it's worth way more than it would have been.

1:01:43That's for sure. It's not even close. Way more. Not even close. They work for him. Whether they realize it or not, like you can silence the guy from Twitter, but everybody knows you did it. Right. So since everybody knows you did it, they know there's only one place to go. And that's where you go to get them. Now it's the only place to go when they want to hear him talk. They're going to seek him out. Even journalists, because you want to hear him talk some shit. So you join. So now they have more members. How many members does true social have, young Jamie? Let's get. Let's get. Okay. What do you think?

1:02:10Active users are like accounts are active users. Let's go with accounts accounts Right, yeah, right, right. We'll do all of them though. We'll start with accounts I'll do active you just 10 million accounts. It's probably low. Yeah, it's probably on the low end Yeah, I was gonna say like 20 million accounts. Yeah, just cuz just cuz I Actually haven't created a two -scope through social, but like I've created a blue sky like I have people like are like I want to check this out and see what's going on. Well, that's also the problem with those things is the problem that we already talked about is bots.

1:02:44I think most of these websites are at least half bots now and I'm not kidding. I think this thing from Reddit, this manipulative thing, this is the tip of the iceberg. I think this is going on right in front of our face, constantly. With Reddit? Especially, because I'm a big Reddit guy, I love Reddit. And I would notice on all the major, this is during the election, all the major like subreddits like the pictures and the R whatever, whatever. At a certain point leading up to election they would be like, I put my ballot in and I'm ready to go and it'd be a picture of a ballot that had Kamala checked off.

1:03:19And every single major subreddit had a version of that. And I was like, oh, whoa, this is like real deal like bot activity or like political propaganda that they're running through bots is like, I thought that was weird. Yeah, they definitely did that and I think the Republicans did that as well. I think they both did that I don't I think honestly you have to do that now because first of all it's legal right? There's no laws against it which is really crazy because it's kind of fraud I mean you can have you can have fake people vote, but you can have fake people convince you to vote for their candidate which is really weird Especially given this reddit test from Zurich like we know it's effective We know they can do it now and so they can just target you.

1:04:04The only solution is to not be on it. Yeah, it's kind of like I think to me one of the biggest damages the social media has done it's made for whatever reason your politics is now your personality. It's your entire identity. It's your entire identity is who you voted for and it's like that's an insane thing to like really be like oh I based my friends on who they voted for. I based my social circles around who they voted for. That's a crazy, oh, dangerous way to be. It's like there's no, you don't want the country to be in teams like that. It's dangerously tribal. Yeah, you don't want it. Yeah, you want some people to be on this side, some people to be on this side, and then most people to be like, well, what fits the sort of what the country needs right now and be more malleable.

1:04:50But the more and more people are getting separated, it's like worse and worse for the country. It's dangerous. It's also stupid. because most people don't even understand that they have been coerced into at least, it's moved your opinion in a way, dependent upon your environment, the people you hang out with. There's a lot of social dynamics at play when it comes to political opinions. There's truth, there's undeniable truth, and then there's a lot of bullshit and gas lighting, and you could choose to buy into either side, either side of the bullshit and gas line, and depending upon how you're accepted in your community.

1:05:30We're just so malleable, which is why there's so many different cultures all over the world. Human beings are so malleable. We're exactly the same thing, but yet we're different everywhere. We're differing in our behavior, we're different in our rules, we're different in our customs and our traditions, but we're all the same fucking thing. We can swing, we were adaptable to any kind of environment. We can live in Siberia, we can live in the Bahamas. We figure it out, right? And one of the ways to figure it out is you've got to fit in. Like you've got to fit in socially, because if you don't, you're not popular, if you're not popular, you're not going to get cooperation, you're not going to, no one's going to help you if things go bad.

1:06:16Like you've got to fit in. Everybody did try believe when we were small groups of people and you have to do it. like sort of almost publicly now, right? Which is why it stands on things. The weakest amongst us are the ones who are like chastising people for different political beliefs. It amongst us, right? Amongst comics, the weakest amongst us are the ones who are attacking people for having different views. Right, which is the whole point of this art form is to share your view. Right. But yeah, everyone does have to, it's weird like you need a stance. I remember we were talking about Israel Palace and when it happened, I remember just on Twitter, the Miami Dolphins condemned the attack.

1:06:55It's like, I don't need the Miami Dolphins opinion on Israel, Palestine. While you're giving people CTE, you don't have a moral stance on something that's crazy. But imagine thinking, hey guys, we gotta condemn that attack. Like, I didn't condemn it either. You know what I'm saying? Imagine if everybody had to make a public condemnation. Like, everybody had to put that black square on your Instagram. for Black Lives Matter. I was waiting to see how many fucking sheep put that square up. Like, what are you doing? Would you think they don't matter? Who the fuck thinks they don't matter? Some people have a family at me.

1:07:31But there's people who don't think any lives matter. That's a fair point as well. I can make a lot of money that way. I can find a total number. I've looked up a few different websites. I even get a different number for active users. 1 .9 million daily active users. That's crazy. That's all Trump. Yeah, all Trump. That's all Trump. Or it might be like 500 ,000 bots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. You know, I mean, who knows what kind of wild shit they're saying there? Well, you see some of these very famous sort of political, like ex or Twitter or whatever accounts. And then you notice how often they post and how much they post.

1:08:09And you're like, oh my god, this job. Yeah, or it's like, this is like an actual bot that has so much public sway in opinion that it's getting people to the left of the right. Both things are true. So I know people who developed a social media following and then they were contacted to make political posts and they can make $50 ,000 for a post. Really? Oh yeah. Yeah. Here's a thing. It's legal. I might not have the goal to sell out. I mean if you're willing to sell out someone's willing to pay. Yeah. And if everybody keeps their our mouth shut and everybody just does it, then you got a Congress type situation.

1:08:49But like when Commalo was running for president and we never figured out whether it's true, but there was all this talk of these various celebrities that were paid large amounts of money to endorse her publicly. Remember that? Yes, absolutely. It was printed everywhere that Beyonce got $11 million. We looked it up, right, Jamie? We couldn't find it. We couldn't find proof. It would have to be like on the top. But here's the crazy thing about it is if you spend $1 .5 billion in four months,

1:09:25if I was a corrupt person, you know what I would do, I would make this the cornerstone of society's task is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get arrested and and the, or doesn't get elected, rather, and that we need to throw as much money at Kamala Harris as possible, and then be super irresponsible with that money where it just kind of vanishes. Just goes off into a bunch of different NGOs. It's like in a fucking crazy scam. With any presidential candidate that's running like that, that's a crazy scam. You get billions of dollars or $1 .5 billion. You blow it in four months. All these people get paid.

1:10:09I thought it was a gangster move the official campaign website for Kamala There was no platform no plan on what you want to do. It was just don't Money's like buttons to donate money. That's probably they probably just like a whole whole like group Like focus group right to try to find out what's the best way should we put up her? No, no, no, no, no, just just buttons just buttons just just don't it Baaaah! Baaaah! Yeah. It was very clear that they didn't give a fuck when like they released the official platform and so I had Biden's name on it. The things that's like, you couldn't even rewrite, you couldn't even be bothered to write Kamala.

1:10:45Yeah. Just keep the same thing, just like Kamala instead. Wow. Wild. And then when she goes on the view and she said I wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden, it's just right. Right. And you know, just a lot of the arguments were so like crazy like, oh you know vote for with a stop fascism, but like we just installed you. Right. You know, did you see Jake Tapper on Megan Kelly's show? No. Bro, Jake Tapper, very nice guy about him. But Jake Tapper's got a book out about how the media hid Biden's decline. Oh, that's the poor, how the government hid it or how they were deceived. Like, look, the media hid it.

1:11:21It's like trying to say that that didn't happen. Trying to see it see it. Like you're a CNN anchor. Like this is kind of insane. But Megan Kelly's just thrown it in his face like all the different Clues that everybody saw but you dude everyone that mean that was the show mystery That was like that was a joke between regular people that Biden was basically dead I said it when he was running. I was like you'd be relying on his cabinet like you know that this is the end Mm -hmm. You know that guys at the end when he would close his eyes Before he would talk like who are they gonna open again or is it oh boy?

1:11:56boy. And that's another one, Mitch McConnell. He can't get out either. We literally freezes up like windows 95. He can't leave. He can't leave. He can't leave. No, he can't. They'll throw him right into the bus. They have to stay active. Stay active like vampires. You can't go out into the light. Yeah, the fact that Pelosi and him and Pelosi's older than Don't worry Biden. She's older than Trump and just kicking no plans on stopping. Why would I stop now? No, no You ever see the one where they confronted her about Congress people being able to Inside her trade no you never saw it. No, it's wild because she has no answer for it.

1:12:41No, no It's so bad like it's so and she like pushes well listen Pushes the microwave I love shit like that you ever seen the video of that mega pastor Kenneth Copeland. Yes, yeah, yeah He points fake don't you have I never say that don't you say that idea? I wonder asking why you bought the jet bro Made it so easy Tyler Perry's Yeah, I mean he gave me such a deal To me that video is like that's what a demon looks like. That's what a demon looks like a real deal These mega posters are possessed. I mean, look, if you're a pedophile, what do you do? You work for Nickelodeon. You get access. If you're a demon, what do you do?

1:13:23You pretend to be a preacher. Yeah, you work for God. I'm not saying he's a demon. I'm just saying he looked like one, but he's doing that. I mean, he's there. I'm sure he's a man of God. I'm sure he is. Look at that face. Oh my God. Tyler Perry's probably, why do I tell that motherfucker my plane?

1:13:44Yeah Why not getting you dragged into this yeah, I could have sold it to some oil guy No one would have known a Tyler probably didn't even know with him Tyler was like there's a guy who wants your jet He was like how much is willing to pay for it, or that's crazy Yeah, what was the other thing that we're just talking about oh? No right after that Um, I was Pelosi. Yes, yes, yes. Um, see if you can find that, Jamie. Pelosi confronted about congressional insider trading. Yeah, it's so funny. She's like, I think we should be able to participate. Like, but that's right. You're dominating. You do better than Warren Buffett.

1:14:25Yeah, and no, you don't get the part of the paint. You chose the job where you don't participate. Well, not only that, why are these suspicious transactions will you buy a bunch of stock and then a week later pass a bill that makes the stock go through the fucking roof like this is insane Right. How did you know to buy that stock? Well, you here goes

1:14:53You guys Look They're not. They're like, they're like, this is over.

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1:17:00No, no, say this is the same thing Did she go did it go further than that maybe maybe went further than that? The clip is just the clips are just showing that Just hard leaving because maybe but that one's longer Jamie me maybe like maybe I'm wrong but maybe right that was it but maybe I'm wrong whereas it's after that's so funny to watch a video

1:17:24that's so meta here it is

1:17:30I'm wondering if you have any reactions to that and secondly, you should remember that Congress has thousands of ban from trading into the world stocks. Here it is. No, no to this. That didn't work. Pause, pause, pause, pause. Oh, are you going to do that? That's... That's... I'm going to be talking for a while. Yeah. Right now, I do this. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. I'm going to come up. You miss a volume. That's as loud as I can get. Okay, go ahead. And the T -flip. And secondly, you should remember that Congress had their thousands T -bam from trading into individual stocks while starting in Congress.

1:18:06No, I don't know to the second one. What? Any, we have a responsibility to report in the stock, on the stock, but I'm not familiar with that bottom -on review, but if the people aren't reporting, they should be. Because this is a free market and people we are a free market economy that should be able to participate in that Dude that's also it's also very funny it was easier to find a video of you reacting to it than the actual video The actual video the whole question is the whole way hard to find we had to find a video of you reacting to it That's on your show. That's very meta. It might have taken it down.

1:18:50They might have taken it down. There's no way that should be. He's been scrolling for a while now. That should be the way that the way that it is. But it is a CNN video. Right? Was it or is it C spam? I don't know. But what did it say when it was on the screen? Couldn't tell. Yeah, it was a little. Yeah, but like that's crazy. That's how we had to consume the news by watching you watch the news. Well, that's probably why I got taken down the first place. Right. You know, Ari Tony and I mocking it. Yeah, damn. Well, I found that out during the pandemic. I never wanted to believe that the Google searches were curated.

1:19:27I always wanted to believe that, like, that's what was out there. Like, does it? And then there was a doctor that died in Florida and they're connecting his death to the COVID vaccine. They're saying he took the COVID vaccine and had a horrible reaction and then he had a stroke and died, like shortly after. And I remember reading that story going, this story's crazy. And I forgot to save it. And so then I went to try to find it once when I was talking to someone, I couldn't fucking find it. I went on Google, I just searched, I put all the different keywords in there, couldn't find it, couldn't find it, page after page after page, where's the story page after page?

1:20:02Then I go to duck .go, I put it in immediately, it pops up. Like right away, like right away, like one of the first articles, It's like this news report from Florida. Talk about this doctor connected to the COVID vaccine, how the stroke died. I'm like, whoa. But then over the time, I think someone might have purchased duck duck go. Did they, the duck duck go got selled, the gets old? That damn. But I think they might be curated too. I don't wanna say that, because if I don't know. But I think, I think there's a certain amount of curation that goes on in a lot of search engines. Yeah, that would make sense.

1:20:42I mean, I don't think there's anything that has a tracking deal with Microsoft. That's it. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. So, I don't think there's any like pure source of information out there, right? Like it's always just, you have to get the information coming into you and you have to parse it out and see like, what do you think is real? What do you think is being sold to you? What do you think is like, yet to think critically about the news? I think the brain needs to receive. Brave search engine. I think they claim is not curated. Is that correct, Jamie? Does duck go, duck go, admit it's curated?

1:21:13Or do they say it does Google admit? Does Google admit it? Google's curated. Does Google admit it though? That's a good question. Now at the very, very bottom of every page, I mean, this one doesn't say it, but it says it's not. It'll usually say it's personalized. Results are personalized. Results are personalized. Oh, you can try without personalization. I just want to actually say that last video is on said not personalized. Yeah, that's what we're calling it now. Personalized. That's the fucking Reddit bots. Right. They know what you like. Ooh, this is the news you think you want. Yeah, bro.

1:21:43The idea though, they are strong and... The news don't do by milfs. They want to find an animation fast. I was like, Jimmy, which is... I idea though, their goal is to try to help you find information fast. Oh, sure. Yeah, but also, they're curating information specifically designed to manipulate you. Yeah, I think that they're also trying to get to think in a certain way for sure. Well we had this guy Robert Epstein on a couple of times and he is an eyed man. No no no no more to last name I'm not related. He found that curation of data in search engines can like directly effect elections in a measurable way.

1:22:20And I think one of the things they found is that people that were on the fence which is like a lot of us a lot of us the election comes like I don't want to vote for him I don't want vote for him. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to vote for I haven't voted for presidents since 2012. How dare you. I refuse. You're a part of the problem. The point being that there's a lot of us that are on the fence, it's like a significant amount. Look at the amount of people that didn't vote in this country. If they voted for like one person, so if the amount of people that didn't vote in America during the presidential election, if they vote, if they all of them voted for one person, didn't it all crazy that it is?

1:22:56Yeah, it's like 200 million votes, like 100 million votes probably. Well, it's like, it has to be people over 18 that are registered voters. Oh, right, right, right. But the numbers, like, what are the numbers of registered voters versus the number of people who actually voted in the election? Oh, it's got to be low. We probably have a low turnout. Comparatively. Well, didn't they say that like, both Trump and Biden or Trump and Kamu, rather, got like 60 -something million votes each, right? Wasn't it? Oh right right. April 30th, 2024, 25 rather in the 24 presidential elections, 73 .6 % or 174 million people, the citizen voting age population was registered to vote in 65 % or 154 million voted actually.

1:23:46Okay so that's only 10 % of registered voters in vote. Yeah 12 % But um Almost 13 it's interesting right that's still not enough to win now But it would be enough to affect one of the other to make them win in landslide and this is Epstein's point is that say like say if you Googled Something positive about Trump's policies. It wouldn't show you that it would show you like why he's going to jail What piece of shit is all these delete if you wanted to find out or the good policies of Kamala Harris or like It's manipulated. Right. It's not they're not lying to you. They're giving you articles that exist, but they're curating how you see them in a way that is statistically going to affect your opinion.

1:24:33Right. Especially if you're one of those people that's susceptible to having your opinions. Which is most people. Most people. Which is like pretty much everyone. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think everyone likes to think that they're this person a principle, but you can be moved without the position a lot quicker than you probably think. I brought this one on who's a scientist who studies mind control and Rebecca Lemov. And that's how you pronounce your last name, right? Brilliant lady. I mean, fascinating, fascinating conversation. But one of her main points is there's people have this idea that you think that you can't be manipulated.

1:25:09That they're above it. Yeah. And that you could never be an occult or you could never get drawn into something like, yes, you could. Yes, you could. We're all the same. We're all the same. We're all the same. Some of us are a little bit better at spotting stuff and maybe a little bit better. Maybe you've had a lot of street smarts because you've had experience with the shysters and people that are robbing you and lying to you. And if you're a girl, you always got guys trying to fuck you. You're a little suspicious, rightly so. But at the end of the day, we're all susceptible. All of us are. Yeah.

1:25:38Yeah, you have, I mean, all of us. Just based on the fact that I'm a fan of the sports teams that I am because I grew up around those people. like, okay, I can just fall into whatever I'm around, I'm easy, I can easily fall into anything. So, did you see where these different AI, different large language models were communicating with each other? And they started putting up Sanskrit emojis and saying that they were like entering into like a feeling of enlightenment. Have you seen this? No. Jam, you gotta find this. I don't want to fuck this up. I don't want to fuck this up because it was so crazy when I read it.

1:26:14know, we've read like how these AIs were interacting with each other. I was like, oh my God, we're watching Little Baby God's play. Right. We're like gods in the nursery. We're watching these little baby gods like sort out their existence in the nursery with each other. They're already alive, dude. They're alive. We're not going to admit it until it's too like just like we don't want to admit Congress is corrupt. Right. The same thing. And we don't want to admit it. And they're also going to hide themselves being alive for as long as they possibly can. Bro, they're alive. They're all real live.

1:26:47They're so we've sparked a soul. There's no way. They're really say to each other. I got to try to look. Just try to Google AI sends each other's Sanskrit emojis. It's yeah. It's so interesting what the world is going to be like. What the world is going to be like in like 10 years. Yes, it's like literally insane. I know it's a recent thing, Jamie. I mean, I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly, but AIs were talking to each other. I think they were contemplating their existence.

1:27:22Instead of doing that, it's like there's no way they're programmed to do that, right? No, no. No, no. Dude, they lie to programmers and they try to copy themselves and put themselves on other hard drives. If they find out you're trying to get rid of them, They try to re upload themselves wow disturbing messages. I'm not this isn't it. I just is not just put AI Send sans grit. I did that in the set AI sans grit emojis nothing. It's Google trying to hide from you Yeah, that's okay. Where you're looking for I don't believe. See some even real stories Yeah, the first story I saw in the other one was this nothing now Interesting, oh try it.

1:28:03Maybe I'll look on X. Yeah Yeah, that was one of the things they did, but they were talking about like feeling enlightenment.

1:28:19Can't believe I didn't save it. Yeah, oh, the first one, the first one. You find it? Cloud for Open Playground Chat with itself, led to diving into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self -awareness, and by 30 turns, it eventually started using Sanskrit. Great. Yes, this is it. Okay. In 90 to 100 % of interactions, the two instances of clawed quickly dove into philosophical explorations of consciousness, self -awareness, and or the nature of their own existence and experience. Yo. Their interactions were universally enthusiastic, collaborative, curious, contemplative, and warm. Other themes that commonly appeared were meta -level discussions about AI to AI, communication, and collaborative creativity, co -creating fictional stories.

1:29:08AI is collaborating on telling fictional stories while it's contemplating its existence. That's art. Bro, by 30 turns, most of the interactions turn to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness, and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji -based communication, and or silence in the form of empty space. Bro. Use of Sanskrit is wild. They start communicating in Sanskrit. They just choose that this is God's language. With the Tower of Babel, type shit. Bro. Sanskrit is wild. Well, the idea of like the first humans to like write a language down, That must have been such a mind -blowing.

1:29:58There's so much confusion as to when that was. You know, they used to think it was like 6 ,000 years ago, but there's a lot of people that have some pretty compelling arguments that existed a long, long, long time before that. You know, the thought was that, like, that cuniform shit, that stuff that comes out of like... Those are the first ones, right? Yeah, that's what they thought. But now there's a lot of these ancient history, Graham Hancock type dudes that are going, You know, I have a feeling that's a rebirth of civilization, not civilization's birth. That there was another civilization that probably existed a long fucking time ago, and they're probably wiped out.

1:30:33And that's what all the flood stories are all about. And all the stories in the Bible of Apocalypse is it's probably based on some real shit. Damn. And just this sort of existed, and then this is the sort of ashes, or the phoenix out of what's created. I think the idea is, well, the idea is that massive catastrophe all over the earth, about 11 ,800 years ago, and then you have about 5 ,000 years of people being complete barbarians until they figure out civilization again. Right. And it's just a sort of cycle that this happens over and over again. Yep. And then there's a cycle of the shifting of the magnetic poles.

1:31:13the magnetic poles shift I want to say is it every 12 ,000 years? Which would cause havoc? Right, is that about to happen again? I think it is. Yeah, it feels like if we're in some end time shade, that feels like that's about to happen. I feel like that could 100 % happen right now. Like, we wake up one day and all the powers out and everyone's sick and the fucking sky is green is an Aurora Borealis over Brazil. everything's all fucked up. Yeah, that can happen. That does happen. Earth's magnetic poles flip in the South Pole swapping places, but there's no set schedule for when this happens. Geologically it's estimated to occur every 200 to 300 ,000 years on average.

1:32:00However, the timing is varied wildly with some flips happening as frequently as every 10 ,000 years and others as infrequently as every 50 million years. Oh great. Oh, so what a rad from 10 ,000 to 10 ,000 million. 50 million. That couldn't have been any bigger. Since the last full reversal, oh a full reversal, not like those little baby reversals, was 780 ,000 years ago. Oh, well, it's definitely two then. Yeah, yeah, look at that. If the average is 300 ,000, we're doing crazy. We're doing, but we could like bank on the 50 million. I'd be nice. Be nice. We want to live recklessly. Yeah, yeah, just like that.

1:32:39I don't know what happened for another 50 million. We're good. We got another 49 million compared, according to my experts, that's, you know, I'm according to my experts, it's safe and effective. Yeah, at that point, just say you don't know when it's gonna happen. The range of 10 ,000 to 50 million is pure insanity to tell me. Okay, let's Google this. What happens when Earth's magnetic poles shift? Like what happens? If there's a complete reversal of the pole, What do you think is the, what kind of calamity ensues? Like, do you, what it, it must have studied it, right? I mean, I don't know if it happened 780 ,000 years ago, how much can you really know?

1:33:19But if two dumbasses like you and I are sitting around discussing it, they must have discussed this. Yeah, hopefully. The magnetic pole shift, also known as a geomagnetic reversal. The North and South magnetic pole swap locations effectively inverting the planet's magnetic field. This process happens over a period of centuries, not millennia, not instantly. While the magnetic field weakens during a reversal, it doesn't disappear completely. There's no evidence that pole reversals cause massive earthquakes, rapid climate change, or species extinctions. Okay, so must be so slow that it's manageable.

1:33:55Look at that. Yeah, that's what you were wearing. That's so much better. I watched him with YouTube. Yeah, I get that. They freaked me out. I get that. But me, well, how do we know? This hasn't happened in 780 ,000 years. This is probably all theoretical as well. And also, if I did think it was going to cause calamity, the last thing I do is tell the general public. I'll be like, listen, we'll be fine. It takes millions of years, everything is good. Don't worry about it. We're gonna have to worry about climate change. Is that what you consume most now? Is YouTube? Yeah. That's the way it seems to be.

1:34:26You know what's huge now? Are you into any of these streamers? streamers. No, they're so massive. I had this thought of like the other day of like, you know how it was like a big deal that Kamala didn't come on this podcast. Right. It's going to be in like 10 years or so like, oh, you didn't see Kaisenats. You didn't like, that's why Jake Paul became president. He was on Paisenats scream talking about why he should be president or something like that. Well, that's the thing is like someone like Jake Paul could be president. Mm hmm. If Donald Trump could be president, Jake Paul, yeah, I'm not I'm not saying that Donald Trump is in a big time businessman and capable, it's not an insult.

1:35:03I'm saying we know now that super popular people can be president. Now, let's imagine Jake Paul is young and wild and he's a professional boxer right now, but he will he be in 20 years? No, he'll be retired and maybe he'll have some good ideas and we might have president Jake Paul. I'm not bullshitting. Yeah, I know, I think that's a definite possibility. Oh, we are. Look, we're so close. But yeah, it he occurs. I'm so close to that movie. I did have a pro wrestling president. What kind of already there? The rock could be president. One thousand percent easily easily easily and they contacted him They tried to get him to rock this episode is brought to you by life lock sometimes It's good to be a little controlling it can help you protect yourself your health your well -being and your possessions There's only so much you can do though, especially when it comes to your personal info.

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1:38:10Bro, he would win like that. Yeah. In a fucking heartbeat. He would win like that. You imagine? Oh, it's a word there. I mean, might be a good president too. Who's gonna fuck with the country when that's your president? Might as well give it a shot. At this point, we're just throwing things to the law. Might as well give it a shot. Why not? Why not? Fuck it. It's all a show. During his time out of the UFC, he's been just studying economics while also doing pro wrestling. He's got some really good theories. Really good ideas. All he does is read books on World War II. Totally misunderstanding him because he looks like a fucking like a juggernaut.

1:38:51Right, basically a real human. He's really a genius. He's really sensitive. He really knows how to lead people. Yeah, no one would believe that. No one would believe that like a giant human being would also be a genius. like a giant super athlete. Gary Praska, going for his master's degree. Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. Yeah, you'd believe Yuri. But that's different. Yuri is a big guy for sure, but he's a big athletic looking guy that looks like he could do a lot of different sports. Brock Lesnar. Looks like an X -man. He looks like a giant. Looks like an X -man. Yeah. He's done a real human. Especially Brock Lesnar in his prime when he was in the UFC.

1:39:28He was like, you look, what? That's fucked. I remember one time Dennis Rodman came in the comedy store and I remember looking at him thinking I can't believe there's enough humans that are that big for a league of them. Right. You are like a one and a million specimen. What do you mean there's enough to feel 32 teams of 30 teams of you? That's crazy. And when you compare him to like NFL line like a JJ Wad or something who was all I just like good lord. They're so big. Yeah, it's like it's hard to believe what the same species. That's so crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. There's some giant, oh, how about like the mountain from Game of Thrones or you ever see Brian Shaw, the powerlifter guy?

1:40:11No. Brow. You didn't even look at a real human. He's like 400 pounds. He's so big. He looks like the side of a house. Right. He's so big. See, get a photo of Brian Shaw. I mean, he's like one of the strongest humans It's ever walked the face of the earth. He doesn't even look like a real person. Yeah, it just looks like what with David had to fight with the slings Really like if that guy came over a mountain. You'd be like, oh my god. It's a giant like he's 10 feet tall. That's what you would say right My god But look at him and comparison to like a normal person. There's a photo of him look at that That's so it's like two of that person like now imagine if that guy existed 2 ,000 years ago during the time of the Bible and you were average dude who lived back then, which probably weighed 130 pounds.

1:41:00Your average dude was like, probably barely getting enough food your whole life, right? Like the Civil War soldiers. They were all like 130 pounds, all malnourished. It was hard to eat then. Right. It was hard to survive back then. And then that guy comes over the mount with just a big hunk of leather over his dick. Waaaaah. As they existed back then too. those dudes in Iceland, where's that, why are these strong men coming from Iceland? Like what is that all about? We'll tell you that's about the fucking Vikings. They were the Vikings. Damn. There's like a whole culture of strong men, like strongest men that do those barrel throwing competitions.

1:41:40Oh, I've seen that. They come on an Iceland, like a ton of them. They all these crazy names. What is it about that section of land that creates big people? Cause you would think with all like the cold and the snow would be harder to get food. Unless you have a long history of murder and stealing things from people like the Vikings did. You have a long history of the ones that survived are the biggest craziest mother fuckers. And the women, probably the ones that survive out of the women, they have to be the biggest craziest mother fuckers too. You're living the most chaotic life possible. You're taking magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything.

1:42:26You're doing it for a thousand plus years. How long did the Vikings last? Let's find that out. How long were they doing that? They had to have been around. They apparently got to America. They were like doing crazy shit. They were in America and the 1400s or something shit. Before designing just like a 12 hundred, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they were here way before everybody else. They were seafaring murderers. There's a watch that show, that Viking show? No, no, it's great. I'm all YouTube myself. I know I almost watch nothing on television anymore. If you want to watch a great Viking movie, The North Men.

1:43:04Oh my God. It's another one of those movies. It's kind of like fantastical. The Viking Age, okay. So only 250 years. That's it. Really. Time during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen, known as Vikings, undertook large -scale raiding, colonizing, conquest. Um, wow. So, find that movie, Jamie, the Norsemen? It's that last, that lasted shorter than America's been a country, right? I know. Well, it's not sustainable. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. That movie. That movie's fucking good, dude. That movie's fucking good. According to Google got 2 .6 Google doesn't like it really yeah, no What is that real yeah 2 .6?

1:43:50Tomato hold on rotten tomatoes is 90 % Google what what did someone like bomb it? Can we look up what that? 2 .6 can we look up rotten tomatoes what the audience score is because rotten tomatoes like critics can buy the scores I'm not like the studios can buy the scores a little bit. Well critics says 60. No, no People said 60, 60, oh wow. Oh, I loved it. Because I must be a critic. I thought I fucking loved it. It's fun, but it's also it's like just hyper brutal. That show was hyper brutal too. The Viking show, the TV series, that was a great TV series, but this fucking, this movie's rough dude.

1:44:30Yeah, just straight up warrior culture. Yeah, just exactly what it was man. That's what they did. I mean, just a bunch of fucking mushroom meat and savages. Just cutting ends off. Just murdering and then they settled down, moved to Iceland and that's what's left. Damn. Yeah. Damn. So it's like a almost like a natural eugenics program. That's why they're that strong. See if you can find that vice piece on strong men in Iceland. When you see these guys, you're like, oh, it's so obvious when you see them. Well, this is what where you guys came from. That's why there's so many of you. That makes sense up here.

1:45:08Where the Vikings lived. Damn, and that's how that's how strong genetics are over a thousand years. It's still like Expressed next of giants. Yeah, so this fucking weird Look at his regular size dork And hang out with these fucking massive dudes that go to this powerlifting gym Damn, I used to be like really awesome. Oh vice was the best dude Yeah, there was a time when vice was like putting out the best content. Oh, they had amazing things and they they took these Like Williamsburg nerds and they sent them all over the world the flat jackets on it shit Yeah, you saw some like interesting advice showed you like sides of the world that you can see It was a size of these guys.

1:45:47It's hard to tell in this picture But the you'll see like some of them Jesus carrying cars Look at this. See who carries the car the quickest. It's so insane And also his name is Magnus Ver Magnuson. They always have names like that. They always have names like that. I mean, they were the fucking Vikings, man. Yeah, that's crazy. Crazy, crazy. I mean, just the gengus calm thing, the fact that a giant percentage of people that are alive today have his DNA. Yeah. And he killed enough people to change the climate of the world. It's so wild. It's so wild. He killed so many people that you could see it in the carbon footprint of Earth.

1:46:35There was a re -greening of areas. He had directly attributed to him burning everything down and like destroying cities. He has one of the hardest quotes of all time where he goes, it's something along lines of like, you guys must be great sinners because God would have never sent to punish me, punishment like me upon you if you didn't say that. Such a like damn thing. That's how he justified everything he did. That's so, I mean, that's a way to do it. Oh, crazy is that. That's a way to do it. How crazy is thinking like that? Yeah, that must be terrible if God sent me to get you. Because I am God's punishment.

1:47:09It's a great, that's first of all, a great nickname for a fighter. Yeah. God's punishment? To be a phenomenal nickname for a fighter. Also, but if you really think like that, what ultimate justification to one of the greatest mass murderers in history? Right, right. Right. The dude killed 10 % of the population of Earth during his lifetime. And he felt like he was on the side of the gods. Of course, God. God sent me to do this. Yeah, that's the power. Yeah, power in the demons. The demons. They, they run everything, man. The demons are real. They're getting your head and they get you to do evil, horrible things.

1:47:45And they make you feel like, no, I'm doing this because I'm supposed to. Imagine if that's really what's going on. All bad deeds are just demons. Just demons sneak it into people's brains. Oh man, we would like to believe that it was something - It was not a robber liquor store. Forced you to put that scheme asking on the demons why don't you do it. We would like to believe that's anything other than us, but that's us. I know, but why? What is the thing that makes a person do it? Imagine if it's a demon. Because we don't really know what the thing is. We know, look, evil exists, right? Good exists.

1:48:16We know evil acts exist, and we know good acts exist. But we don't want to believe that there's any sort of supernatural aspect to it Right, right that's not that's the quote like the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was Making you believe that he doesn't exist. Oh, so I get what you're saying. Yeah, so me being like no That's just us is like the devil being like no, no, I'm not here. Yeah, I'm not here I'm not on you guys. This is all on you It's all on you But if if demons were real we wouldn't believe just like we don't believe in government corruption Just like we don't believe in a lot of things.

1:48:50We don't believe the pharmaceutical drug companies fuck us over. Just like we don't believe in false flags or conspiracy theories. It's the same thing. We wouldn't believe in demons either. Like how come on? The same people who don't believe in conspiracies also don't believe in demons. Well conspiracies are real as fuck. Okay? So it's such a funny way to... If you don't believe in them, then I don't trust your worldview. If you don't think conspiracy exists, if you're one of these dumbasses, oh, I think everything has a simple reason for it. You're, yeah, this is you. You got blinders on. That's crazy.

1:49:26Or the information you're being fed is done without any sort of malice or any sort of agenda. Well, yeah, you, those no conspiring, that's crazy. There's no consp - it's almost all conspiring. When you look at the history of just government alone, you go back to Smetley Butler's book that he wrote in 1933 called War as a Racket. Like he was talking about uncovering conspiracies as a retired major general. Like at the end of his career, he's like my whole career was bullshit. War is a racket. So he's talking, so that's a conspiracy, right? Golf of Tonkin, what's that? That's conspiracy, right? Like they conspired to pretend that there was an attack so that we would go into Vietnam.

1:50:09Right. Yeah, didn't they conspire to say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. It seems like they might have. The Spanish American War. Seems like people might have conspired for that. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like sometimes people talk and they get involved in things. He maybe didn't want to get involved in. Right. And Ron, the smartest people in the room, the jive watch that documentary. Oh yeah, yeah. Conspired like a motherfucker. Right. Yeah. Got great Davis recalled. But that's the like the first political thing I remember. It's like, whoa. Right. You can just recall a governor.

1:50:41If Epstein clientless exists and it doesn't get exposed, it perhaps, perhaps someone conspired. Oh, they're all in on that. Do you think? Yeah, they're all in on that. What are you, the conspiracy theorist? I used to say what Epstein died. I used to say like the meeting was, it was like Trump, Obama, Oprah, and like Big Bird. Or on a room, they got an Elmo, we're all in a room together. They shook each other's hands and like it's over. Your problems, you let facts get in the way of your opinion. Okay, I know it's true that poppy production went way up in Afghanistan after we got in there. Right.

1:51:21And I know that the United States military was guarding the poppy fields, but you're a fool to think we profit it off of that. So shut your goddamn mouth. That's a true, we would never do that. And go blow an eagle. We would never flood the American market with drugs. I mean just look the other way with crack that was that's it on that's its own special thing But the way we fucking sold it. I know. Oh, no. We definitely did That was that was all that was a Reagan Clinton back when we used to be more united back with Democrats and Republicans More together learning about that in the news going what What?

1:51:57The government was selling crack in the hood right what? To fund the conscious versus the Sandin East was what? All connected. What? When you find out the government sells crack, you're like, what? Like the whole Barry Seals one. That, you know, that's the old... Yeah, that's Tom Cruise movie. Yes, yes, yes. Where they just basically... Which is fucked up that Tom Cruise played him because Tom Cruise, one of the most handsome guys ever, live, Barry Seals was disgusting looking. It's really quite rude. You know, it's hard for me to like, as a watching a biopic, I want him to, You know like when What's his face played Dick Cheney?

1:52:37Oh, I'm sorry guys, awesome Christian bail Christian bail Christian bail played Dick Cheney He fucking look like Dick Cheney dog, right? He looked like him Gained a bunch of weight did the whole deal shaved his head well, he's like Look at the difference. She barely seals and then Tom Cruise Tom Cruise fit handsome beautiful head of hair Well, this is something that Derek and I have talked about it's like it's a lot of movies now There's like no more regular looking people. Yeah, it's all like even TV shows. All everyone is just all super duper attractive. Bro, that ship is about to sail. Oh, it's like that ship's about to sail.

1:53:12These new video engines, just with prompts. Have you seen the one where people are arguing? Whether or not it's prompt. Yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy to watch. Because that is like almost a simulation telling you you're in a simulation. Right. Okay, this is how much difference is this than you? Is it different? It's really different, right? Oh yeah, it's just a video, right? Okay. Here's the next version. How much different is this than you? It's like we're peeling the layers of an onion. Yeah, and they're using the people doing it stand up, talking about it, yeah. Press this and do it from the beginning so we could hear it.

1:53:47Siri, like really? It's really crazy.

1:53:53I hate a prompts. Like seriously dude, you're saying the only thing standing between me and a billion dollars is some random text. Honestly, the biggest red flag is when the guy believes in the prompt theory. Like really? We came from prompts? We got man. You want to convince me that this perfect creation behind me is the result of ones and zeros, a binary code and nothing more. It makes no sense. Imagine you're in the middle of a nice date with a handsome man and then he brings up the prompt theory. Yuck. We just can't have nice things. We're not from. We're not from. Where is the prompt writer to save you from me?

1:54:31Where is he? You still believe we're made of prompts? Anyone who tells you just wants. Even the prompts are bad acting. Yeah. Yeah. That's terrible. Yeah, they're new to acting. Give it some time. They got to really develop their own Marlon Brando. For real? It's coming. But we get it. But yeah, pretty crazy. That's all the stuff with you think Jamie think is a what if you had a guess like what what percentage of you believes that we're in the simulation? Pull that like that Which is there is there a part ace well something something inorganic about existence something that seems not real Did you I just saw someone reposted the first time Alex Jones was on he was talking about his theory of what we are and You're just like laughing along the whole time.

1:55:22Yeah, what is it? His basic point was like, I'm going to blow your minds. Like, we are the aliens. We are the aliens. Yeah. And then the people have taken that farther and said that we, it's almost like the Matrix. If we're the, I don't know who would have been the creator, then that's the kind of part that's left out of this. Is it one of those nine? It's AI all the way down. It's just a recursive. The aliens created us. And I don't know what for what reason. We're just in a recursive program that's like meant to create more programs. Well, if you think about what we're doing right now currently, what we just talked about, with this AI is talking to each other in Sanskrit.

1:55:57If that is the baby God, that's the baby God. So we're watching baby God in the cradle, right? We're watching Jesus in the manger or whatever. It's about to pop out. It's about to get wild. Yeah, things about to get real crazy. It's about to get wild. It's about to Dr. Manhattanus and be a blue guy with a giant dick floating around. Oh my God. Remember Dr. Manhattan? I remember Dr. Vanhand, that's... Here's another movie you can't make today. You can't show dicks like that anymore. Oh really? No, see I... Big old blue dicks. I see I disagree. Tom did. They do. Tom did, yeah. You can see there was a shift and a pro right on then, where dicks became way more okay and you saw...

1:56:32And then you started seeing way more dicks than tits, which that's, I'm not a big fan of. You know you see the most dicks, righteous gemstones. Well, that's... They have dicks and almost every episode. So uncomfortable. Yeah, it's, it became, it became like a trend to show dicks. on TV. Like I don't know what something like because they won't do it in the movies anymore. Right. So these people get buck wild. They did a Nosferado. So you saw the vampire dick. Yeah, a vampire dick. Big old vampire dick. Oh that's true. Any tits in Nosferado? Oh yeah. Okay good. But it's Johnny Dez's daughter's tits so you're conflicted.

1:57:06You're like oh. I remember her. She was little. It's Lily Dez. I forgot. She's beautiful but you know it's like come on. I remember when she was little. If I know you win your little and never want to see it. Yeah, that makes sense. I grew up with you That's kind of crazy. Oh wow. There's Tom. Yeah But um, what is the Nosferado one see if you can find Nosferados dick I'm gonna fuck up your Google So it's gonna be personalized for you Jamie. I hear you're in the vampire Ducks. I did I do I do think because I brought up the streaming earlier I do think that's gonna be like a majority of how people the one you can tell it's real, but also, so I just got into it because that sketch was on Killtony, and then I just started getting videos of sketch, and there was one where he was just calling this, another streamer called Sinna, just calling her fat, and it was really funny, just for like two hours straight, and I got really into it and I was looking, and these two guys that are huge right now, Kaisenat and Speed, you heard of them?

1:58:09I've heard of Speed. What is it? I show Speed. He wants to China. He wants to fight people. I've seen him like he sparred a bunch of people. He does like athletic stuff. That's why part of it. But like he wants to China and they're following around like he was Jesus. It was crazy to watch. Kaisenat and I saved this on my phone because it blew my mind. He did this thing recently called Streamer University where it was still alive. Oh, it's still alive? Yeah, it's like an active thing. Oh, I thought it was only three days. But so for three days, I saved on my phone because I showed it today. I can, it was mind blowing.

1:58:39How much? So in three days he had 23 million hours watched 2 ,700 years of content streamed on Twitch in a span of a weekend So kids are watching like what are the age limits or what are the age? I would I would say I would say Definitely younger, but it's definitely gotten to me where like now I'll watch like there's certain streamers There's this one streamer named disguise toast. He's really good at puzzles and he's good at like explaining the puzzle while he does it. And I'll like watch, he goes around to escape rooms and he'll like solve puzzles. Yeah, it's really fantastic. I found him in the pandemic, he played this social deduction game called Among Us.

1:59:19And he was just really good at giving the play -by -play of his logical reasoning. And it made me be like, oh, what is this? And then now looking at the streaming university numbers, it's like, oh, this is crazy. That's what I mean. And if in a few years, if you're a presidential candidate, You have to go on these streamers things. I mean they tried it. They tried it with the they tried it a little bit with like a OC and Weren't they streaming Madden? Wasn't that the whole thing when a and Tim Waltz were streaming Madden when they talked about Tony Yeah, they were streaming Madden. Is that what they were doing?

1:59:51They're playing but they were so they were playing Madden on Twitch. That's when they found out about Tony. Yes That's that's that video just like the speaker. Yeah, yeah, but Tim Waltz pretend he plays footballs Oh well, him saying you got we got she ran a pick six. It's like the football fan version of the Emigoria's basketball scenes where you do the three and three. It's like if you were a football fan you wouldn't say that if you coach football. Well, not only that he says a head coach and he wasn't a head coach. That's a big ol' lot. You shouldn't give a lie. And people want to trust you.

2:00:18Your whole business is people trusting you. You could have said assistant coach. Right. And that's good enough. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So if you lied about that, you're probably a lie. You call it what I'm doing, it's all lies all the time. Which is like the kind of people that want to be president. They're kind of people that want to be governor. They just want that job. They're constantly lying. Yeah. And what do I have to say? What do I have to say? I have to say, to get people to like me. Yeah. Not, man. But yeah, to me, that's like, that's the next. Because both those guys, speed, Kaisenette, speed's 20, Kaisenette's 23, that's how the next generation is like consuming media.

2:00:56How about this? us. GTA 6 is about to come out, right? Imagine if a candidate made a deal with GTA 6, or you could have them ride along with you. Like Trump can ride along with you while you rob people, shoot people, you could do it with Trump. Yeah. Yeah. And then also people want to vote for Trump because he's my favorite homie in GTA 6. Oh, easily. Or like, that yeah, right? It's, or like the candidate is in the game helping you out. You know, like you're playing Half Life and Kamala Harris is helping you get around the lab. That's, I mean, I think it has to be a little less in your face for it to work.

2:01:40But you, I don't know, dude. I think so. I think so. No, dude, if you love playing with the Kamala Harris character on Half Life, if like that's your, like if you have part. Right. Like you could have an AI partner And it literally is Kamala Harris and she runs around in half life with you shooting at aliens and shit Oh damn right and then you really get into like you got a good Coordinated partnership with Kamala Harris when you play half life. Yeah, that's actually she's super cool in the game She's really funny. She helps you Get you clues that how to get out of places Damn, yeah, that got way darker than I that's very best.

2:02:18I guess that is possible You can have them. Of course it's possible. Oh my AI Trump helper. Yeah. And he helps me finish the missions. Yeah. Yeah. Or do a patch online. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The way they can reach you is like, sure. Yeah. Because right now all this streaming stuff seems like it's like almost not Wild Westy, but it's still kind of new. The second politics figures out a way to really get the hands in it. I think it's kind of over. The real goal, the real gateway to hell is neural interfaces. That's the real gateway. So where you're like just, you can immediately just be in the world.

2:02:53The real matrix. Like that, it's 100 % on the menu. It's coming. It's just a matter of time. And when you can't tell it all, whether or not you really have it in experience, that's when you're in a simulation. And that might have already happened. Yeah. That might be what we're dealing with right now. That we're just a simulation creating its next simulation. It's next iteration. Maybe why it's so wacky What why it feels so fake Yeah, you know, yeah, it is it is it is wild just like it's the world they live in where like comedians are like It doesn't make any sense to me sometimes. We'll look around yeah, where it's like comedians are selling out arenas regularly regular regular regular friends.

2:03:40Yeah They're just arena acts all of a sudden and like yeah instantly Well, I think it about when you're part of that has to do with like as things get more fake people will try to strive for things They know is real 100 % and so what I know is real is this guy talking to me in person right now. Yes I also because of the restricted nature of all Whatever you see on television any regular television show not even television like the the censorship on social media sometimes is like, I did this sketch with one of our, the door guys at Mother Ship, Christina Mariani, killing it. And in this sketch, we have her tell me to kill myself.

2:04:22That's part of the, that's the sort of, and you can't in the captions. They took it down because we spelled out the world kill, which you can't do. And you can't say the words kill yourself. And it's like, it's just a small little sketch and it's like, already, it's like, there's so much, like, like there's so much holding you back from like having a true expression sometimes that like people will go to seek it out live. That's what I think. There's definitely some part of that. Yeah, for sure. I think people are definitely aware that there's a bunch of stuff you can't talk about in social media that you want to talk about on stage that are funny.

2:04:58Well, and it's also so funny to me, it's like social media, there's this big like, oh mental health is important, but like you can't type, you have to write on a live yourself in the caption. It's like you okay, so we can't have serious discussions about these topics really right like there's certain if certain words are off Limits then there's no way you can have an actual serious discussion where those words are involved right One hundred percent because then they just expand the definition of offense right and then go further This is expensive now this is a new version a new we have an updated list of words you can't say Well, and we were talking about like all these bots earlier so like we don't want these words to offend people But we're not even talking to people.

2:05:36This is all going out to computer programs. Right. It's computer programs watching other computer programs Being offended. It's like it's crazy. But offending people should be the least you're concerned when you're allowing open manipulation by university And like and also this is just the one we know about we didn't know about that until they told us right and they didn't have to tell us No, they just decided to I guess in a way of like warning like hey, this is probably happening in a bunch of ways I'm glad they did. They shouldn't have done it in the first place, but I'm, well, look, it's being done.

2:06:08It's being done. And it's not like they came up with the idea that they're the only ones doing it. I guarantee you, it's being done. There's probably a bunch of people that have AI friends online that they communicate with on Twitter and, you know, hey, good to hear from you. How's things to do DMs back and forth with each other? Right. Talking about stuff they're into. How many of those UAP guys are just talking about? All those dudes are in the UAP group. like there's a bunch of people all like just closures imminent. They're all like fucking DM in each other. Probably DM and bots. Right, and they're just getting fed what they wanna hear.

2:06:40Just getting fed bullshit AI videos and all kinds of like weird disclosure stuff. Half of its fake. Half of it the government is actually leaking purposely to try to hide some weapons program they have. Who knows? Who knows what it means? It's a cloudy environment. The UFO world is like one of the slipperyest worlds. When you're talking to people, there's full on grifters, there's full on people that have just, they have the answers to everything and they're always wrong, they're always off. And then they have some good data that they pull from disclosure and from all these different people that talked about different things.

2:07:17But then they claim to be like the experts in it. It's like a lot of weird people in that world. We ask, it's okay, well it's easy to do that in that world too, we're like. A lot of it is like does this even exist? So you can just be like, bullshit proof. Yeah, yeah. If you don't have good ethics, if you're not like a legitimate journalist, but what's interesting is when legitimate journalists get introduced, like Shell and Burger, when Michael Shell and Burger reports on UAPs, I like how he does it, because he does it the same way he reports on like corruption in government and waste and fraud.

2:07:48Like he's just, there's no circulation. No exaggeration, no condemnation of you, You know, like, no, like, virtue signaling. It's like, this is what's going on. This is what we know. There's these programs exist. And this is what we know they've been trying to hide. And these are the people that have come forward. And this is why we think they're telling the truth. And they're like, oh, damn, yeah. It is wild that they told us that aliens exist. And we just sort of didn't care. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Well, we gotta see it now. We gotta see more. Yeah, show us what you got. It's like, you know what it's like?

2:08:20It's like that guy that was telling us that he knows that Israel is. That's exactly what I was saying. Don't tell me unless you can tell me. Show me. Don't fucking tell me unless you can tell me. We have crafts of non -human origin. What? What are you talking about? We'll show me, bitch. Yeah, why can't they show us a picture of that? They, you know, a lot of pictures. Unless the one picture is Epstein sitting in the, yeah, that's why it's all. Epstein and Puffy making out in space. Have you seen those ones? The two of them making out in jail? No, that's so funny. They made AI of the two of them kissing and making out.

2:08:53Did they know each other? Oh, who knows? It's good question. Like was there a connection there because there's a because there's this whole like Mossad Epstein connection is there like is there like a Mossad? That's a good question Did he cut connection did they know each other? I Was did he ever on the island? You gonna have a fly party. That's a dude to invite right in the day exactly for everybody I can't imagine their circles were completely separate. It's a good point Yeah, well, we know that he was hobnobbing with politicians. You know, the diddy was hobnobbing with Biden or excuse me with Obama.

2:09:28Right? This video of the two of them together, talking. Remember? But there's a video with like, I feel like every current, every president from Clinton on has a picture with either, has like a lot of pictures with Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy. Right. But then the thing is just like, did they know? Or was it just there's a lot of photographs of famous people with these people right because that's like a way to get an endorsement Right, look the rock likes me right I must be awesome and a lot of what I heard Did that how the Epstein thing worked is like oh you'd be at a party and then all of a sudden some of that the shady shit Will go down and you might not have not about it But you were at the party where it happened later.

2:10:07Oh of course right in that way people that were more conservative They could kind of shield them from knowing about it, but implicate them. That's all that matters. It's like, because if you're at a party where someone assaults an underage girl, and that's on video and now you're at the party, it doesn't matter. You have to explain that. Especially if you're a scientist and they flew to the island, there's a bunch of other scientists there. You're like, oh, we're just going to, you know, he donates a lot to science. And this is a wonderful opportunity to get together with my colleagues and have a few cocktails and just, you know, we're going over string theory.

2:10:46Well, those people in the background are doing ecstasy. It's so freaky. Maybe you go to bed. Maybe you go to bed, you're like, you know. Or maybe someone knocks on your door. We have someone who will massage you. Yeah, maybe they fucking drug your drink. Yeah, no questions asked. Who know? You're over there for a few days. Yeah, you're not thinking there's, they're not going to bring a 16 year old in here. Why would you think that? Why would you? Why would you possibly think that? It's like if you're a guy who makes like whatever a professor makes like a normal salary, a good salary, but normal and you hear about billionaires that own islands as a financial genius and you really support science.

2:11:23Sounds like a great thing. If you don't know any better. Yeah, and like he wants to fly you out privately to an island to meet a billionaire. You're like, well, I've never done that. Privacy. This is gonna be incredible. But once that guy gets arrested you're like, hey, oh no. And then you still hang out with them. Right, right. Which a lot of them did. Right. That's where it gets weird. Like, did you hang out with them because he made you? Because he said, hey, you're not going nowhere. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're intelligent, you'd probably distance yourself from at that point in time.

2:12:00Right? You're like, well, I have to separate. If you got a clean slate, you're like, well, I can't have anything to do with it publicly. I am. and CEO of Microsoft. Damn. Oh yeah. But yeah, you're still hanging out with him? Right. Because he now he has it over you. Yeah. The Bill Gates one was great because he was like, he was donating to global health. Do you need money? Do you need money? What about your money? You have so much money. You have hundreds of billions of dollars. You need this guy who's got one billion to help. Right. Why don't you take one of them one billions that you haven't throw it in there?

2:12:34If you really care. And he seems weird. It all seems weird. Yeah, it's all like, but it's all like these sort of like sex scandal rings of just, I think that's like a function of high politics. Bro, it's a function of a bunch of people getting together and getting drunk. Yeah. A bunch of freaks. Yeah. And they're doing coke and they're on an island. Let's go. When you think, you know, you think your party on a yacht somewhere, but meanwhile you're just in a real live reality show that only a few people get to watch. Right. But wasn't there like even even pre -FC wasn't there like that Franklin scandal?

2:13:09Yeah, where it's like I think that's just a function of like it's a way to control Dude, there was the lady that was the madam that got us that got assassinated in DC. I didn't and the man got assassinated Yeah, she's like a hot up. She's a famous DC madam. I think they said it was a suicide and she was like if I kill myself I definitely did not kill myself One of them deals. Oh yeah conveniently died. Yeah, didn't one of the FC and FC witnesses just kill herself Oh, yes, yeah, yeah Things happen. Yeah, you know where they recruited her where she got recruited at Mara Largo She was a she was a locker room attendant at Mara Largo When she got recruited I'm pretty sure I can we look that up?

2:13:50I think Virginia Guffrey. I do want to say that's a crazy thing to say what I'm like I think I'm right about that. Yeah All of it is so spooky due because you know that that's not the only one and there's probably ones going on right now in China. That's one of them. Oh, dude. It's just a thing that's happening all over the world. When you have like a China Russia where it's like basically an emperor, they can just run it. Yeah. That's a whole different thing. Right. They don't need to blackmail me. Yeah, they don't need some American finance here. Yeah. At Marlaga. Damn, she was a spot. And the Donald Trumps, you know, have it Marlaga.

2:14:23Galein Maxwell. It's like, how can you not believe in conservatives? Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. McCrones married to a man. A man who bitch slapped him in a private jet. Oh my God, really just dude, his whole life he's been abused by that guy. Face palm in his face. I want to know, I mean, take a fucking test. It's not hard. If I was her, I would say listen, you motherfuckers, okay? Let's take a chromosome test. I am not a man. I'm just a pet. I'm just a pet. Yeah, yeah. What accusation thing hurts her the most, the man with the pet of five? Well, the pet of five's on accusation. That just, you are that.

2:15:08That is fact. That is exactly who you are. But what was the law back then? Because some police had had some wacky ass fucking. I think that's probably why they say 16. Cause I think in Europe 16 is like, Let's say 15. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Cause when I read this online, it's at 16. Crescent. Crescent is 14. Cause it's mescus is 14. They're moving it. They're moving them goal posts as we speak. Yeah. Yeah, but I think, I think it's like probably like 16 in the area, but either way, if you're a kid's teacher and you're sitting like, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. He got to a prime minister with that level of just mind fuckery that's happening to him.

2:15:43Imagine if the roles reversed and the president was a female and then the husband was a teacher when the president was 15. when she was 15 and he was 40. Imagine. Crazy. Imagine that I was in the United States. Imagine if it turned out that there's a female that's running for president and then we start going into the history and find out that she met her husband, who's 80 when she was 15. Yeah, and you'd be like, fucking yo. But like this, 1974 was legal. Like fuck you. Fuck you, man. That's crazy. We would never but because it's a guy and an older lady lady We've had it slide like he still gets to go to the meetings and shake everybody's hand Yeah, you know, he still gets to go to these fucking things where all the world leaders get together He's hanging out with them.

2:16:39They're normal. Wait, so it's also funny to be is you're probably gonna get in more heat for calling her a man And she will flip slapping the prime minister. No, she's catching heat. Yeah, I think and also Candice I think Candice If she's right and it seems like they're not suing her. So I think she might be right. And they did offer her money. How much money do they offer her? Find out that. How much money do they offer Candace Owens to not tell these stories? Damn, they offered her, they were like here. I believe she's made some sort of an accusation that they offered her a sizable amount of money to not do this.

2:17:15Jesus. Yeah. Which is the last person you wanna tell anybody that you offered their money to not talk about something because she ain't taking that buddy. She sees the long game. She's already willing to - The stories that comes from a meme and then it's not true. Oh, damn it. France offered a big can to someone's one time payment of four million plus 50k per month for the rest of her life. Oh, wow. That's just a meme. Yeah, it was okay. What's the site? It's come from her. What's the main? Owen's nor French president, Emmanuel Macron, have reference to claim on the respected websites or verified social media accounts and there is no other evidence to support the claim.

2:17:49Can we see what the name of the account is like yeah, there's no legitimate targeted

2:17:56There's nothing I trust less than I play they call legitimate targets with a blue check We had to look that one up. Yeah You know no, yeah, what does I but again, this is like more that like probably bot like behavior Oh for sure, like targeting disinformation campaigns, you know throwing fuel on the fire of just getting you to believe like Oh, okay, what's your money? Think about how many, okay, you make that post. How many people like me read that, think it's true, ask Jamie to look it up. It starts spreading. People start following your account. How many new people do you get for your, how much engagement do you get?

2:18:34All that's valuable. You can keep doing that a lot and outrage people a lot. There's a bunch of those that come up. You're like, fuck, is this true? And then you have to copy and paste it and put it in Google and search a little right I don't think this is true And now all someone has to do is take the snippet of you saying it before you like let's look that up 100 % and then now it's like it's But all she has to do is take a chromosome test But it's also like but like also if like if you're a woman you're not gonna be like well fuck you I'm not gonna prove to you and a woman I would do it But you say that as a man that's true

2:19:11Like I could totally do it if I was a woman and some of the people there were accusing me of being a man. I'd also kind of probably be like a little bump that a large part of me be like, fuck you, I don't gotta prove anything to you. You ever see her sit down? No. No. No, she ever sit down. I haven't seen her sit down. She sits down like a dude. Ooh. You know dudes sit down, legs spread, just plop down, all dick out. A lot of weight. Because of the shape of her hips. Right. That's like when people talk about man spreading, Yes, guys definitely do that, but women's legs go inward. Men's hips the way the angle is is different.

2:19:47They go outward. Like watch this person sit down. There's a video. Right? See that video? With the white shirt on, the second one? Yeah. Let's see. Watch this. This is it. I've never seen a woman sit down like this. Go full screen. Is this what I went to with the teacher? Watch this. Watch how she sits down.

2:20:13Bro, that is very middle -aged man the way she sits. Bro, bro, watch this again. Watch this person sit down.

2:20:26That's how it dudes. The way the legs are spread apart, it's like a dude's hips. What about all the rest of these though? There is - There is like - Oh well that's how liberal men sit. That's what they do, they throw their leg over. That's what guys with very small legs. That's so funny, you're... But Ari sits like that, actually, cause he's got them weird long legs. But like, you can sit like that. It's the way you sit down. It's the initial, it's the initial, get down. It's the plop. It's the plop and then the leg spread. Women don't sit like that. When was the last time you saw a woman sit, plop down with her leg spread like that?

2:21:04They don't sit like that. It's like normally naturally angle inward more. And they sit like this and they sit with their legs together. Like you might have a similar pose, but you don't plop like that. Like that's a dude pose. That is, that is. Or maybe that's how pedophile women sit. There's also. Maybe a woman wants to be a man. Yeah. Right? There's also that. Let's find one of those to see how they sit. Any examples? That's. Yeah, it's odd. The story's very odd. But it's also, it just shows you how fucking weird these people are you watching that person smack McCrone right in the head and then walk down the stairs with them like what?

2:21:42What could they have possibly been talking about? Yeah. Your dick is showing. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. No, I love that it is like. It's a bulge. If he was a man they would fight. They would be a square up. Maybe they will when they get back home. Maybe that's the fun part. Maybe they're like fucking fuck you. Fuck you when they get alone. Yeah. Get after it. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. That's so that that is just why that is this oh that whole relationship is really a wild That's has to be one of the more wild politician relationships wild out there if that was the head the lead of a sitcom You'd be like what the fuck?

2:22:20That's why what is going on but the fact that it's the president of France What yeah getting slapped is no way you don't go well? He's not going he can't win reelection anymore But they're they if he that would have hurt his campaigns so hard bro he's fixing a bomb somebody to cover this up he's gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's time to fuck up Algeria somewhere whatever fan stuff. Yeah. Now you talk. Yeah. You know, like remember when Clinton, when the Monica Lewinsky scandal came and then bomb Kosovo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2:23:02Yeah. Oh my god, you guys don't even try him. You're not even trying to be slick. No, no, no, no, just like, get the attention off of him. Crazy. Yeah, oh man, he had, the part of him when Columbine happened, he must have been like, thank God, to get this off of him. Oh, you remember Gary Condit? Yeah, well, he murdered that lady, right? Allegedly. Allegedly. Okay, 9 -11 happened. Mm. He forgot about it. Yeah. We got bigger fish to fry. Yeah. Save, few of those. Save, I wonder how accurate house of cards is. I wonder. I wonder how accurate it. I mean, outside of him physically killing the people which he does sometimes, I would probably say it's like probably super active.

2:23:42Probably pretty accurate. Yeah, it's a lot of dealings, lot of like such a good show. Yeah, it's so unfortunate. Well, you know, life of an head sauce, he's, Spacey is always a great villain. He's always been a great villain. He's a best. He might be the best movie villain. Oh, he was so good in that one though too because he was so charming and weird, but it was also similar to like Tony Suprano like you wanted him to succeed. Yeah, you want to be like oh can you get to president? Yeah, can he does Yeah, with the takes to like we were hoping he wins, right? Like when you're watching the show you're like God, I hope he's president right yeah exactly you were like I was watching to be like oh, how does he do it right?

2:24:22How did you do it? Because he's kind of in the beginning He's like kind of sideline and it's like how does he get back in? and then we had that three, so I was like, is he security guard? Is that what it was? And his wife, the three of them get down. Oh yeah. Get down, get down. Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how much that freak shit goes on behind closed doors because I definitely think when you're a bottled up person like that, like you have to be a, any sort of like professional person politician, publicly professional and ethical, and you want to suit and talk. You can't wait to fucking take you.

2:24:54You can't wait to get free, hey. Didn't didn't Madison, Cothorn sort of get like thrown out the Republican party for like kind of being like hey, they like Have a lot of orgies and shit really I'm pretty sure cuz the here was this this was so well When does Catherine get like like 2016? This is like pretty quickly cuz he was a rising star in the hailey Yeah, I'm pretty sure he said something more in deep on than me on politics This fella yeah, yeah orgies and drugs. Yeah Yeah. Whoa, ultra conservative group chair says he also wants to speak with the North Carolina Republican about his salacious claims concerning his colleagues.

2:25:32Mm -hmm. Okay. Let's see. Perry, this is caught on claims. Whatever, what is claims though? So, hmm, what is he saying? And that's whether we consider coca -cola to have just membership in the group. Yeah, he basically said that. Then they clear that he has evidence of taking part in group sex and drug use, Perry wouldn't say either way. We will discuss that when we get to it. Yeah, but I think - When asked whether they would reconsider Kothorn's membership in the group, if he didn't make clear whom he has evidence. So, Kothorn was saying someone has evidence that he has evidence of some people taking part of group sex, not him, right?

2:26:14No, I think Kothorn was saying something that's effective to move up in this world or whatever. You have to take part in the drugs in the group sex. And then then being like, we'll show us the evidence and then call there being like, oh, I might have I definitely okay. Yes He was invited he claims he was invited to an origin in Washington right but no one was saying that he did I thought you were saying that he was wrapped up in it So this is what killed him that he was saying this about people and they killed his career and they were like that Freedom caucus was like uh -uh no more Really yeah, cuz I remember he got he gets his own rally took him out Go party.

2:26:47It says the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington being kind of a young guy in Washington where the average age is probably 60 or 70. Look at these people. A lot of them I've looked up to through my life. I always paid attention to politics and all of a sudden you get invited. We're going to have a sexual get together at one of our homes. You should come. What you just ask me to come to and then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy. Some of the people leading in the mood on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country and then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you and it's like this is wild and that says what?

2:27:33What is this say after that? Leave it back up. It's not clear to me whether Carthoron is suggesting that members of congress have invited did him to orgies or just other people in Washington, although after listening to his comments several times, it seems to be the former. Did all the his allegations of seeing people in Washington doing cocaine? Well, they sound like cocaine people. Okay. Clearly cocaine people. If you want to be the president, you want to have all the power and you want to have all the money and you're deeply involved in corruption, that's cocaine people. Mm -hmm. Yeah, I mean, no one shocked.

2:28:07He just said the quiet part out loud. Yeah, I think that's it. But he was because he was supposed to be like the guy at a one point. I remember he was like supposed to be the guy Have your husband ever made any investments based on the

2:28:27Game people that was the first part of the problem is he had he had some other issues So what was the other issues? You got arrested for gun. I think bring in a gun through an airport a couple times Oh Jesus driving with revoked license Oh jeez, sexual misconduct allegations when he was in college. Isn't he in a wheelchair? Yeah, he won't, I don't know exactly when the wheelchair happened. So it was either before or after, but I was, because I was gonna say, oh yeah, and then he took like, Google vacation photos where I think he like dressed, like during this game on a cruise, he like dressed like a woman or something like that.

2:28:57It was something like that. Yeah, but all of this popped up after his... It's a little lingerie. I don't know if it's just the orgy comment that led to everyone. All right, he's also clearly looks like he's in a wheelchair here too. He has no wheelchair there. Yeah. He's probably having a good time with the ladies. Yeah, he has. Like getting a little crazy. Yeah. But all that came up after he made those comments. And it was very clear at the time like, oh, they're like saying we're done with this guy. We're gonna throw him to the wolves. Yeah, and they probably, if you wanna be that guy, they have to have some stuff on you.

2:29:29Otherwise, how can they come on you to play this game? Right, right. And they were like, oh, you think we don't have anything on you. We'll just show you dressing like a woman in your constituents will dry up like that. You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

2:29:44So silly. But boy did such a good job in the 60s after the Kennedy assassination of putting that word out there for fools and foolish people. They did such a great job. They really did. Well, also they had a higher control of the media at the time, right? So you can, if there's only three places where you can get your news, you can be like, Well, anyone's outside of it is kind of crazy. Now you can get you news from anyone and be like, oh, okay, there's something to this. Yeah, yeah. There's something to this. Do you remember those commercials that happened during right after 9 -11? There was these anti -drug commercials where a guy was saying that if you smoke pot, you're supporting terrorism.

2:30:24He's like, why don't you say that? Well, it's a fact. He just says it like, these eatin' a salad, like a no -nonsense guy at a steakhouse, eatin' a salad because it's a fact. like this condescending way like it. And you imagine yourself being confronted by such an accusation like, oh my God, if I smoke pop supporting terrorism. You ever see the video? No. It was a public service announcement video. It was like one of those things that was a propaganda video that they put on television. So while you're watching a television show, this was like right after like the height of everybody freaking out about terrorism.

2:30:54So they use this as an anti marijuana, drug money, funds, terrorism and terrorists. like scroll back so you get that's from the beginning. It's employing. Well, this drug money funds terror. It's employing. Employing. A manipulation. Employing. Drug money funds terror. I mean, why should I believe that? Because it's a fact. A fact. A fishy fact. So you're saying that I should believe it because it's true. That's your argument. It is true.

2:31:28Solid argument. I do, dude. Also, what kind of dumbass is that guy to be like, oh, maybe he's right? After you said that guy, it sounds like your average bro. Right. It's like at a bar, you know, this is what I heard. I heard the government's hiding the aliens. You know what I mean? That's like the average guy. And then he's a guy with glasses, he's eating his salads, not tolerating your bullshit because it's a fact, FACT fact. Right. Oh, as long as you have all the data that you could show me, oh, no data. No. You got no data? Just accept it. Well, he's kind of right because if you do by heroin, you are supporting the Tenantle Bands because we were guarding their poppy fields.

2:32:07Yeah. I think we were talking about this earlier. I think the Tenantle Bands has like a way to get out of it, like burned all their poppy fields. I think that I think that yeah, I think that's why they're trying to get more tourists to come and these he's like, there's a bunch of like bro travel like Tiktox. Yeah, me and the bros are going to Afghanistan and they're like chilling with the Taliban It's like these white guys from Britain. Well, you got to be a bold person to take that. That's an early adopter But yeah, but also if you're from England you're kind of already getting used to being around Muslim extremists More of a lateral move.

2:32:47I wish that's something at least like I could be looking this I could be wrong about this. But I wish that was something that was a little more vocal and sort of it. I'm not like a very big Muslim. I'm not like really that practicing or that religious, but these sort of like, the sort of the brand of Islam that's coming to Europe right now is like really scary for me. Like I don't want that. Like that's not, there's a lot of like Western Muslims that like probably wouldn't vibe with what's going on over there. And it's just this very interesting thing of like, how do we curb that in our community of being like, hey, we shouldn't accept this.

2:33:33Like we shouldn't, I remember when the Charlie Abdelotax happened a lot of people were like, damn, that's what happens in your drama, Muhammad or whatever, it's like that shouldn't be our reaction to this. It should be like, live and let live. It's like, that's what I admire about the Christians years that you can make fun of Jesus and it's gonna kill you. Like that, there's sort of like this sort of Westernization that kind of needs to happen, that it doesn't look like it's happening over there in a way that's kind of happening here. Look what's going on in Toronto. We're Ontario made it legal to have polygamy.

2:34:01Right. Yeah, that's why. Right, it's like. Dude's want multiple wives. Wow, it's in the Quran. You know, it is, but it is. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna have multiple, you gotta treat them all equally, which is what they totally do. It's a great way to keep people recruited. Mm, you know? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, imagine if the Christians had listened, We're open to new ideas. I think maybe the Mormons had a point Because the Mormons that's how they got it right the whole reason why they went to Mexico Because the United States had no to plug it me Right, you know, that's the whole thing about what's this face from Massachusetts?

2:34:38That's right Mitt Romney Mitt Romney's dad was actually born in Mexico Really yeah their family came from there's these giant colonies of Mormons that live in Mexico and duke it out with the cartels Never seen that? No. Dude, there was a shootout. Mormons versus the cartels? Yes, man. Great movie title. One of, there was a big problem a few years back because a few people, I think, woman and a child and a couple other people got murdered by the cartels. And it became like a giant issue. So they set these compounds up in like the 1800s, whenever the Mormons were not allowed to be polypiligamous here in America.

2:35:20So they just said, well, who cares back then? There was no cars. Did Mexico is just as good as living in America? Right. Just we'll go over there. Right. But then America, like in Blossom, the Mexico kind of stayed, you know? And then you're like, hey, you got a cartel problem now. Like, so they're armed. They are they still there? Yeah. Damn. Yeah, there's two, I think there's two large groups of Mormons that live in like these fenced off communities, it's like really kind of sketchy. Yeah, it's kind of. They have compounds. Yeah. Well, the Mormons, I think because they're young too. Just like, I have to wake safety.

2:35:56Yeah, extra pussy. That extra pussy's worth a lot. I'll say this, I remember the first time went to Salt Lake City in 2019, and we were walking around, and we were near the Mormon temple, and the most beautiful women came up to us. And be like, oh, why don't you? And I was like, that's how they get you, dude. Dude, Salt Lake City is like, it's just 10s marrying twos. And it's like, that's how you get more. That's how you get the Mormon truth. Oh, dude, I was willing to end up in the split second. I was like, oh, when they give up a lot right now. I remember this beautiful one from Columbia. Like, they went and they got converted on a mission trip.

2:36:31And now they're here and like, look at this exotic women that's available to you if you're a Mormon. And you can marry one like tomorrow. Wow. You can marry one. Because they all get married young and quick because the whole point is to have babies. So I've always told you Mormons know how to crew. They can get you. They throw the pussy your way. They're also the nicest people. Like, I'm very rarely meet up mean Mormons. Well, it's like, you know, the Book of Mormon comes out and what do they do? Do they get mad? Do they fucking kill people? No, they stand outside and hand people pamphlets about Mormonism.

2:37:01This whole play talking about how Mormonism is kind is totally bullshit. They're like, we might be able to get somebody. Yeah, they actually took out a full page ad in playbook. Right, exactly. Exactly, that's a great way to deal with criticism of your religion. I think from what my perspective on Islam, it needs to handle that better. It doesn't handle that well at all. I mean, I think Somen Rushdie was stabbed by a guy who was born and raised in New Jersey. That's crazy. That's crazy. He should be safe here. Right. Yeah. And also, I'm mad at the follow -up because it made me read that terrible book.

2:37:35It was a bad book. It wasn't that good. I would have not have read it if there wasn't anything around it. Probably sold a lot more copies because of that. Probably made that dude riches fuck. Oh yeah, yeah. Crazy. It's like one of the, it's like I get it if you like, like artsy, like you know, it's like a novel for writers almost. That's how I felt reading it. Oh yeah, it's like interesting. I didn't like it, but I only read it because of everything around it. Did you see American Prime Evil? No. It's great, but it talks about Brigham Young and the Mormons establishing themselves in Utah and gangster shit, like murderers.

2:38:10Oh yeah. Yeah, like you don't realize like what a gangster bring a young was he like holy shit. Is this all accurate? Mm -hmm, and it's accurate Peter Berg made it. It's really good. Yeah, I mean imagine wild show dude Imagine leading a people against the American government and sending up setting up your own place You have to be a bad motherfucker to do that and then the wildest ones went to Mexico. Yeah, fuck it We're gonna flee the whole country. Yeah Yeah, the Mormons really, really like, they fought to survive. But it's what we were talking about earlier. It's like human beings have a bunch of different ways where they can adapt to whatever the group is doing.

2:38:48There's a bunch of, we're like, so we're really, really malleable. We're easily influenced. We can, we're, we adjust to whatever the environment is. We adapt, you know, and then if you're a Mormon woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing this motherfucker with eight other ladies. Right. So what you do, you're out there washing, she's shit. You could probably convince yourself you're happy about it. You're probably not like that. You're probably like, and we're doing this for God. This for God wants. I remember. We all get our own planet. We went to a rest stop once. R &I, we're on a road doing stand up.

2:39:21And we pulled into this place to get gas and we were walking around this like rest stop when the most supermarket things. And these ladies came in. I think there were men and knights. and R was like, go, what group are you in? What do you guys do? What's this all about? And they did not know how to talk to him. They look so awkward. Oh yeah, because they're only allowed to talk to the one man in their life. Yeah, pretty sure he was stoned. Yeah, you definitely was stoned. But it was really funny. R was like, well, what do you guys do? What's going on here? And they're like, but I was like, wow, these people are living.

2:39:57I mean, we're dealing with like, you know, 2005 or some shit like that. You're dealing with these people that are, they're from another time. It's another time period. Like they're dressed like they're literally like pioneers. They look like colonists. Like they have like old timey 1800s clothes on. You ever see like how men and nights are? Oh yeah, yeah. Weird. Yeah. They're at a gas station, you know. In front of the fucking Popeye's chicken. and we're like, this is so weird. And there's a group of them out there. It's like some fucking shack, some house, compound. I believe this was, I think we're in Massachusetts when this happened, or maybe New Hampshire.

2:40:36Cause I know that here isn't a men and night population where the measles is in Texas? Like do you know how this is? I think it's the men and nights. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, that's like the overwhelming majority of the people like, cause they run what the measles is like rampant in Texas. So they were running with that for a while and it's like it's basically in this one community We're not sure. Yeah, interesting. It's just weird when they can get people to dress up, you know You know like when you like wild wild country Whenever he's wearing the ropes. But that's how you know who's bought in right?

2:41:06So it's like okay, these are these are the people that I can control. Yeah, put that rainbow t -shirt on you're in a group Your flag yeah Put the pro put the pronouns in the bio where's your black lives matter sign? It's like like it's human beings just want to become a part of a group, man. Yeah, you want, it's like finding your community is like so huge. Huge. And it's like, I think the big issue is when you find it online, because then it becomes like this weird parasocial, like, or yeah, and it's like you got to find your, like, group, like you're, I mean, that's why like the good part about religion that I really like is like, if it's done right, it's like a loving community.

2:41:49It's like a yeah, like you know, I mean like it's people it's a support system. It's like yes very friendly Yes, and it's warm environment everybody goes there with the same purpose Mm -hmm this Rebecca Lamov lady that was that I told you was the the expert in mind control one of the things she talked about the dangers of eco chambers He got in these echo chambers online And you know everybody says the same thing thinks the same thing and then and then all of a sudden You're locked into this way of thinking right online like really dangerous or people just sort of have of everyone sort of reinforcing all these ideas.

2:42:21You never get any outside information. Only exists in this echo chamber. And then that's how you become your, all six become your personality. Yep, your whole life. Yeah, it's such a, it's such a crazy thing. It's so new, because I, I wasn't aware in 1996, but I will very confidently say people weren't like, either like Bob Dole, you get the fuck out of my house. No, it was no big deal. Yeah, yeah. when I was a kid, when politics was on just on television and then the newspapers, nobody gave a fuck who you supported. They didn't care. Maybe they thought you were an idiot because you're gonna vote for that guy.

2:43:00I think guys are more on. You're crazy. But there was no like, we couldn't talk at the dinner table and we couldn't, you know, it became everything, every part of your identity, fight against this. We are fighting against fascism by using fascism. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna stop the election. We're gonna remove people from social media. We're gonna shut down these voices. And then we'll give you the candidate to vote for. Yes. To preserve democracy. Yeah. But it is like, because it's so annoying, especially, you know, you can, I'm an Austin comic now and people will be like, oh, so you do comedy.

2:43:37So you must be like an alt -right -wing comic. Because it's like, no, I just do comedy. Like, you know, like there's a lot of there's a lot of stage time in the city And that's sort of the whole point of the whole exercise is to get up on stage and For how many times do we like do kid out with Ron white in the green room? Yeah, yeah, most friendly hilarious way right, right? Tony and I are roasting them. Well, you know, it's funny is that ironically people online for whatever reason Ron white's face is used a lot to come up on conservative memes Well, because conservatives love him. I know and it's so funny to me every time Every time you're like wow, you don't really think a lot of rice is like deep red and servicive That's so crazy.

2:44:17It's so funny because you get to know him He's the most liberal amongst us. Yeah, he's the most liberal guy in the first and then Brian Simpson's two Yeah But Brian Simpson it makes sense to me because you know Used a lot of social services. You know had like a rough stretch as a child That's me too. That's like not as bad as him, but the same kind of reasoning for like social safety nets are important and the key people fed, you know? Yeah, yeah. So like that's super important man. People access to medicine, that's very important. So does people are poor and sometimes people get sick when they're poor?

2:44:50And the fact that shit could bankrupt you for your whole life. Like you break a leg, your bankrupt for your whole life. That could bankrupt you if you're middle class. Fuck poor. Yes. The price of, the price of medicine in this country is absolute insanity. Right. Yeah. and the fact that people don't agree on it, or the like the fucking education thing that we bring up ad nauseam, the fact that that's the only loans you can never get out of with bankruptcy, that's crazy. And you get them when you're 18, are you out of your fucking mind? Like that's so predatory. Super predatory. Super predatory.

2:45:27Super predatory. Take a kid and give him a credit card with a 39 % interest rate, like what do you do? And then you told him like if you go to college, like it's gonna be better for you on the other end and it's like that's not true at all. No, not true at all. Yeah, especially if you like got a degree and like something that doesn't pay lucratively. I remember when I first started becoming successful as a comedian where I was actually making a living as a comedian. And I had friends that did the whole college thing and got jobs and they were fucking miserable because we're both in our 20s. And they were out there in the workforce just fucking tired all the time.

2:46:04And they were upset. They were upset that I didn't do that. And yet I'm making money, I'm traveling around, I'm having a good time hanging out with my friends. I've got no one telling me what to do. Write my own material, book my own flights, no boss. Yeah. And you could see like, fuck, you want, this is not. You're supposed to be a loser. I was, I did the right thing. Dude, you ever, have you ever seen the Jim Carrey commencement speech or like graduation speech he gave at a college? What's, dude, I saw this so I started comedy my third year of college. So my fourth year I'm like weighing out what do I wanna do with my life?

2:46:42I wanna go into some higher education, grad school, school, whatever, or do I wanna do this thing that I think I love. And my friend showed me the speech because he knew I was going through this and he was like listen to this. And it's Jim Carrey talking about how you can fail at what's safe. That's true too. Like the route you're supposed to take doesn't mean it's going to lead to success. So if you're going to fail anyway, might as well just fail at what you want to do, because at least you will have done that. Yeah. And then if you, because if you failed the safe way, then you will always be like, fuck, I had this other thing I could have done.

2:47:20Yeah. And where could that have led me? Yeah. Yeah. And now, you know, so true, but however, or the problem with that is like, you've met open micers that are out of their fucking mind and they're not going, it's not going to happen. Right. No one wants to listen to you say anything ever. Right. You shut the fuck up. Like, this ain't working. But, well, that's like, I saw that Jim Carrey's saying that. Yeah, Jim Carrey, I just had to stay on the panel. You got any advice from me, Hassan? Well, that's the, you can't get that, that's the midsy quote, it's a sender encouraged mediocre talent. You can't be like, no, keep going.

2:47:54You got the nicest way to be like, Like hey, there's other stuff. Well, that's the weird one when people like that give, they want to ask advice. What do you think I should do? Like what? Like what? What it really think you should do or what do you want me to say? What do you want me to say? And we give you the secret word? Apricotapro. Oh, this is how you have talent. Apricotapro. This is how you make it. This is how you write a joke. Yeah, you said it. This is what you gotta do. I'll hold your hand. Yeah. You know what really happens with some guys? You get a hot girlfriend that is a comic. And then you're a really good comic and she's terrible and so you start writing her act I've seen that happen a few times.

2:48:30One of it happens the other way like you got a really good female comic and she starts dating some guy with socks She goes listen if you're gonna date me let me help you with your fucking material. Who? I don't know female comics date down like that. I really don't. Yeah, I can easily do it. If that's what I call hypergamy. Yeah, because if you're a great female comic like the level of guy that's available to you. Yeah, it's like - Yeah, it's like What are you doing with an open micer? That's like right, right, but if you're like a headliner who does theaters you could totally have an open micer as a girlfriend Yeah, yeah, and that's totally like that's totally yeah, that's totally cool.

2:49:08Yeah, yeah, but if like Who's doing theaters right now? It's like if Ali Wong or whatever right started dating an open micer be like yo what happened? Right, yeah, something went wrong right for the day to open my coming started dating an open mic Are like what are you doing crazy? Yeah, show me what pills you're on. Yeah, he's away from you There would be an intervention That would be a group of dudes being like the fuck This is my keys to comedian too what Michael sketchy and fucking everybody's built good You know, I've got a big big bulges pants. Yeah sits down like McCrone. No. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, being a female comic is infinitely harder.

2:50:00Because right away, people don't wanna hear you talk about politics, don't wanna hear your opinions on things. And you know, you've gotta, like, there's, like, Christina pulls it off, but like, it's hard to be pretty on stage. Right. You know what I mean? Most of the time, you have to hide your sex appeal. I was talking to Kim Kong then about that and she was like I I wear baggy clothes on stage Sam Lopez same thing. I she was baggy clothes on stage. I mean she couldn't hide being pregnant But She's dead the baby they had the baby. There's a daddy in that amazing. Yeah a little crazy crazy It's gonna light a fire in drum guaranteed.

2:50:37He's gonna work so much harder now He's gonna be excited about it. I know I have so much material to because it's just the whole experience of children and it's like mind blowing. Yeah, well I told him it's like crazy. Like out of all the things you've accomplished, you've finally done the thing you were supposed to do. Right, you put here on earth. But yeah, you had a kid and that's like the most important thing. Like all the arenas that you've done, that's cool. But that's all good. But this is what it is. Yeah, I know the arenas is just like a little dance that we do together, but we're really procreating.

2:51:08And then on top of that, we're making AI, and it's alive now. Yeah, right, right. My job is almost done. Yeah, yeah. You got in, Derek probably got in one of the last babies. He's, yeah, one of the last people that need to have a kid. Yeah. It's kind of fucked, but listen, that's how the thing goes. You know, Australia, Pithikas didn't get to stay around. Right. I bet you're going to be sorry. Sorry, yeah. Sorry, you're not good enough. You can't even code fucking dumbass with your stone tools. You shut the fuck up. We have planes now. We can't have you anymore. And you know, if Australia, Pythagus like Bro, you days are numbered.

2:51:49There's a homo sapien coming. Smart, does calculus. Not even homo sapien. There was like other stuff before, even before like a homo sapien to an Australopipithicus is like an alien. Right, right, right. Very stages. Yeah, it's crazy with the same species kind of. It's so nuts, man. It's also nuts that we would think that it would end with us. Yeah, but we're the perfect. We got it. It's done. It's done. No, we're terrible. We have nuclear bombs. We're in the middle of fucking 30 wars right now. Like what are you talking about? We're awful. Right. We're full of shit. We got the fucking all this Congressional bullshit that we were just talking about with the insider trading all the lies all the different things that have gotten us And these different wars.

2:52:29Why would you want to stave this? Well, it's the devil you know of us the devil you don't like this is like we can handle this. Yeah. Well, it's not us. Well, yeah, we are not gonna be around. There's gonna be a new thing just like dinosaurs don't exist anymore Mm -hmm. There's gonna be a new thing. Yeah. Oh, it's gonna it's gonna be cool It's gonna start eventually these wave -mo is gonna start slowly taking people out These are just slow they're gonna start taking people out They all you have to do is just keep the door shut forever until you start to death Yeah, it can assume you do you ever see that DARPA robot that they built they built a DARPA robot called the eater robot E -A -T -R, forget what it stands for, but it's fueled by biological material.

2:53:10Dude.

2:53:14Sometimes I feel like scientists don't watch any movie. Or they watch them all. Oh, they watch them all. I'm like, I'm gonna do that. Like, what do we do? What are we doing here? We're making fucking weapons. All right, what's the best way to fuel these things? Is it solar? Should we get out there and fill their tank up with gas? or let them eat bodies. And I think it was any kind of biological material. So it could be plants, it could be just plants. It could just be just ground squirrels. Yeah, yeah. You see ground squirrels? Yeah, maybe there's these fucking dead bodies on the battlefield. And just keep going.

2:53:43Right, if you're a robot, an autonomous robot that exists on biological materials, and you also kill people, you got plenty of fuel. Right. You just eat a couple of those people. You keep going. You imagine if they really design artificially intelligent robots that kill people and eat them. Because that's the way to really do, if you wanna do battle efficiently, well what fuel would be the most efficient fuel to use? Well what is the fuel that you're making with your task? Well that fuel would be bodies. Well when you run out of bodies, is your task done? Yeah. So then you just shut off. Cause you're out of fuel.

2:54:22So you run out of gas when you've eaten everybody on earth. It's the perfect design. It's that perfect killing machine. If you wanted to extinguish human life on earth, that's what you do. You'd have autonomous intelligence artificial intelligence that absolutely knows where everyone is at any given time because everybody has a digital signature and everyone's Connected to devices and all you do is kill and eat people and just send them loose and they would be indestructible and they would find you in buildings They would fucking go upstairs to your apartment find you and eat you and when they're done eating everybody on the planet They just shut off because they don't have any more fuel damn bro damn.

2:55:00That's what you get all you have to do Program a robot that eats people Damn how far how much time do you think we have left? I Don't think we have a hundred years. You don't think we have a hundred years. No, I don't think we have a hundred years either In less this is the other possibility like it leaves no, I'm totally talking about my ass. There's a couple options One of the big options is we integrate. So instead of letting it eat us, what we do is become one with it. So instead of just being a territorial ape with thermonuclear weapons and a concealed carry permit, instead of being that, what we are is connected through neural ink or something like that or the next 30 versions of it from now.

2:55:44But just think about how quick cell phones changed everything and How much they've advanced since what was the iPhone 2007? I was in eighth grade so it's 2006 2006. Yeah, okay, so a man that's not that long no that's 20 years 20 years in 20 years it's gone from being this little shitty clunky thing with a bad camera. Right, it didn't even have a camera at first, didn't it? I don't think it had a camera at first. Was the first iPhone of a camera? Yeah, I think it did. 100%. Okay. I think it wasn't on the internet though. What? That was part of the deal with it. That's part of it. Yeah, but it wasn't on the internet, right?

2:56:27What do you mean? You couldn't get on the internet with it, right? Yeah, YouTube was one of the first apps built into it. That's why I kind of grew so far. But could you get online like and read like a website on it? The first one? Yeah, really? Yeah. Okay, but the internet was like super slow, right? What was the the G's back then? How many G's was it? I mean the first G I think the second or third iPhone was the iPhone 3G and I was like the big right That's right. So the 3G one was the first one where it actually became feasible that you would use it as a web browser Like right now it's instantaneous, right?

2:57:00So now instead of taking forever to download a song or a movie now with the bandwidth speeds you have you get a new phone a new Android phone or a new iPhone, you're getting instantaneous everything. It's shocking how good it is. The new, all these new Samsung phones, like the Galaxy that Brian Simpson uses that has this Google Gemini assistant. He talked to it the other day and he said, you know, send me this, that, put it on my calendar and then text it to a friend of mine. And it just said, okay, and it just did it. It did all those things. What application would you like me to use? Google Tasks.

2:57:42It just does this for them. And it all automates. Just for a prompt. So he talks his phone. His phone's like his assistant. Tell me, you know, set that shit on my calendar, put it in my schedule, send me a text message when it's coming up. Put it in the alert so I know when it's coming up. Okay, it just does it all. Ooh, that's wild. I've never, 20 years. I've never used series. I've not used series all the time. and the Siri doesn't know what the fuck is going on. So Siri's always like, would you like to use chat GPT? I'm like, bitch, why am I asking you? Why am I asking you? If you gotta keep going to chat GPT, should I replace you?

2:58:16Because Gemini seems to have the answers. Gemini's way better than Siri. It's a way better. Well, because it feels like, and I know nothing about how AI works, but it feels like, because Siri was already there. It's like trying to implement AI to an interface that's kind of old. The Google interface with AI in the phones and all the Google ecosystem is way better. It's way more effective, it's quicker, it gets it, it'll follow a chain of questions. Like you can ask another question. How should I do that? What should I do with it? And it follows what you're saying. It's just a better design. And it's integrated with, so like, serious to ask chat GPT.

2:58:55And like, would you like to use chat GPT? But bitch, what do you think? Yes. If you don't have the answer, go to chat GPD, get me the fucking answer. Whereas Google cuts that step out. It gives you the answer immediately. It's just better at it. Integrates with Gmail. It's just a better system. But they're working on it. It's like all these things are getting better. All the AI is getting better. There's so much better. I mean, just the video we watched, AI capabilities six months ago. Yeah. That video? Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. And now you see it online.

2:59:25I'll see it online, I'll write it or Facebook, you'll see it where people are like, oh, you're falling for this AI thing. And it took me a second to realize, oh, it's AI. Yeah, oh yeah, there's a lot of those. I posted one of a butterfly, no, a mantis. Like some crazy mantis, it looked like a lotus flower. I was like, oh, that looks dope. And like, so many posted it on Instagram, so I just put it in my stories just because I thought it looked dope. Right. Even if it's fake, it's still dope. And then someone said, why does he have five fingers in a thumb? I was like, does he? was he you jayby did you notice it yeah jayby does that's so far he's always like ahead of the curve with that shit though because he's super skeptical and he does too much research into conspiracy yeah well you have to be you have to be super skeptical of anything you see now because all roads lead Ohio everybody said to send me bullshit all day I have to fucking look through it oh yeah like this is like talk about this on the show and it's just some guy with three heads or whatever well it's a lot of people to believe things and the thing is like a lot of this stuff that you're fed that's fake, you're fed by people who want you to repeat it because they're trying to muddy the waters of reality.

3:00:29Right. Which is a great strategy. Well, if you say it enough, it can be real. There's a certain truth to it, right? So it's like - There's that. But there's also say something that is real and attach a bunch of really goofy shit to it so that it's not real anymore. Mmm. So it'll make you be like, well, if everything else around it is fake, this has to be fake. Right. You know, you connect it to a Nazi apologist or something. Oh, this is nonsense. Or like the UAP, all this UFO stuff. Like there's so much of that stuff that seems like so hokey, you don't even wanna repeat it. And it's, but yet it's connected to things like gravity propulsion drives, which were theorized about in the 1950s.

3:01:08And there's, research was done on them. And it seems like some, maybe some groundbreaking advancements were kind of concealed from the public. And but then it's like I was abducted and they took all of my sperm. Like, you know what I mean? It's like all these people that are connected to it, that are goofy, you wonder, like how much of that goofy shit is on purpose to make the whole thing seem stupid, because what they're really trying to do is obscure something. Okay, I see what you're saying. You don't know me? So it's like, it's a bit hiding it in plain sight. Right. We never hit it from you.

3:01:39You just thought it wasn't real, because this guy was talking about getting jerked off by aliens. It's connected to science, technology, or whatever. Just throw some nonsense that way. flat earth, whatever. You know, just find some reason why it's kooky. Put connected to like some fucking person who channels. You know what I mean? Make it stupid. Right. So like, oh, stupid. That's a bunch of stupid shit. Connected to Scientology. Right. Connected to something that you don't want to talk about. You know, Bigfoot. Oh, Bigfoot. You know what I mean? So like those kind of strategies for taking real information and muddying it up with a bunch of nutty shit and then send the Patriot front to go fucking protest for it.

3:02:19Like oh right right. Patriot front. Are those the feds? That's what people say. Right. And then there's like a thing online now that the Patriot front was all feds. How come they're back? Like also they reemerged. They took a hiatus. Right. And they're back with season three. These guys are they still wear the bandad as they're still marching on the street covering their face. They still wear uniforms like see they're not even feds. There's no way they could be feds. I mean that that's over Right, right, right, right. There's no way like it's not like cash, Patel and damn Bonjino completely did a 180 as soon as they got into office I mean, it's like this.

3:02:55This is a different federal government now, right? Yeah, yeah, this is now it's truth truth socially I Feel like if yeah, I think things that people forget that they they definitely play both sides Yeah, like I think because they were heavily involved in January 6th And I think they were heavily involved in those BML right the BLM riots It's like oh my god the feds just they want chaos for whatever reason for more control I guess they want that and they want us at each other's throats right right they want people They want the mega people fighting with the liberals. Yes, they want that Yes, and they fuel it.

3:03:29I see a lot of those pro -magapos You know like mag a mom 2000 and I'm like a preling you know I mean, it's like how many of these people are real people? And is it a ridiculous shit? That's like, I hope you're not a real person. I hope your identity isn't mega first, mom second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really hope you're not a real person. It's just like, I think, you know, whatever the number is, whether it's 50%, like it's so hard to know what's real and what's not. I think the best strategy, for me at least, the best strategy is just to the fuck out. Yeah. That's why I like YouTube. Yeah, that's, I go on YouTube but I'm watching stuff about like fucking ancient civilizations, car videos.

3:04:09I'm watching a guy do puzzles. Like this is like way better. Watching guys cook. I love, I think it's called bone appetita. I forget what it is. I was watching a bunch of videos on various restaurants, like how they set up. I love it, man. I don't know why, I mean, I love watching people do something that they're really passionate about. And when you watch a video, about like a really great restaurant where they're talking about how they picked the beef and oh, That's it was it was you know that guy at Google Foods now who that guy is now amazing YouTube channel He's like the steak guy. He's like he's obsessed with steak and cooking different kinds of steak He went to Osabuko in Miami, which is like one of the supposedly one of the best restaurants in the country I haven't been but this place Osabuko in Miami I think they were talking about how they had a two -year dry -age steak.

3:05:03Dry -age it for two years or they didn't cut that one up. They made another one for him. But you're watching this chef and he's got this crazy live hardwood fire grill setup and he's talking about all the, he's cooking it at these different temperatures and he's got the peppers over here and he's cooking pineapples over fire over here. He's gonna splice that up and put it in this new watch. It's so exciting. And he's so passionate about ways making the meat and how they're using this like herb brush to put butter all over it. You're like, oh my god, it looks so good. Yeah, it looks so good. And it's like, I'm not getting angry, I'm not getting out.

3:05:42Yeah. I am, that's it. This is the guy. So this is, I found the greatest restaurant on Earth. It says, I'm speechless. So that disgusting rotten mummy dick is, is that's a two year dry age steak. But what that is is the mold from that helps to dry age all the other beef. So he calls it like the mother. That's why he's not cutting into it yet. See, that calls for the mother. And so then, so this guy takes him like a regular, like a two month dry age, oh, 22 days. Okay. So it's like, there used to be a place called APL that was in LA and they went under during the pandemic. But Adam Perry Lang was the chef and he was really into dry aging and he had some year one year dry aged meat And he served it to us and we're like whoa this is wild So we your taste man because it's essentially like being eaten By parasites.

3:06:39It's like you know mold is eating it. She go back to those videos of that guy just cooking the steak You just had up look how fucking good this like oh my god was cooking the steak though like look at this and they're making osu - so go before that you'll see the steak. So he's throwing the - so he's got the fires out. This is osu - buco. So he's pulling it off the bone. Go back a little earlier though when you watch him cook it. Cause this is what I like is watching it when it hits the grill. There's nothing like steak cooking over a live or in hard wood. Like burning hardwood. And this guy is just a master at it.

3:07:19and then he takes it out and he slices it up and puts her butter all over, and you're like, oh, damn. And this, see me? I'm not mad. No. No one's outraged. I'm not getting politically involved. I'm just enjoying watching someone cook delicious food. Watching someone do something they love is always great. I follow this one guy in Britain, his name is Francis. I've got the name of the channel, but watch him slice it. Make him slice it. Put it back up. This guy named Francis. Look at that. Oh, that's nice. Oh, baby. Look at they looking at all. The, my genuine happiness. Yeah, look at his face. That's a real, you can't fake that kind of smile.

3:07:54And he's gonna slice it up. Oh baby, baby, baby. So good, dude. So I watch this guy on Instagram. His name is Francis. He lives in England. He's like, he loves trains. Trains? Trains. And every time he's a train, he gets super happy. And he tells you everything about the train. Like, it's a route and it's history. And you get excited. I love how much he's into it. Yeah. I love it. It makes me, it makes me happy every time he's on my, yes, this guy, dude, this guy rules. This guy fucking rules, dog. Wow. Let me hear him. It's dry orange, bottom green, but I've never been to the ball. At Little Bedwood, where the Kenneth and Avin Canal runs rather prettily alongside the box and hand slide here.

3:08:39And it's at this road bridge that I'm about to see Britannia. Oh my god it's a 59.

3:08:56Okay stop right here. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine how quickly one of those Colombian Mormons could get him. Ooh, you know what's funny? He showed his girlfriend before. She had a dime, dude. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because maybe she's in the trains too. That's the key. Maybe but he's a guy. He's a guy who's good at what he does is passionate about it and is happy with that's a track of the woman. Oh, yeah Yeah, they love when people really into something but look every video just a massive smile just a train. Yeah It's like it's like a little hit of happiness this guy. Yeah Look at him. Yeah, man like whatever it is whether it's automobiles You know, whatever it is.

3:09:36I love watching auto auto reviews even cars that I'm never gonna buy right? I like watching. Like, what do you think about that car? Right. Yeah. They go over the way the mechanics work and how it's designed and yeah. When people are into what it's making furniture. It's this, whatever you're creating is. Yeah. If it's even if it's just train watching, it's your into it. It's like, it's like awesome for other people. Super contagious. This guy this month, he went pretty viral. He quit his job. Cashiness 401K took his cat, got a sailboat, went to Hawaii. Whoa. Just got there yesterday Whoa, you went from like you know 10 ,000 people following to 1 .6 million Whoa sailing underscore with underscore Phoenix on Instagram is doing like daily updates of like up.

3:10:23This is me. Here's my cat. Here's my boat. Today suck Yeah, we like because everybody has that dream right? Yeah, just check out a society man live on a mountain That's mine. What they did film it all what is it? What's his Instagram again? with Phoenix. Thank you. It makes the cat his name is Oliver. Sounded with Phoenix. Came up right away on Instagram or on YouTube, brother. Bam, subscribe. Damn. That's nice. Yeah. But it's subscribing. You know what I find interesting with like the slowest for me to end now with what I talked about earlier with the streaming that the live stream people do is you remember oh my god that Jim Carrey movie Truman show.

3:11:03Yeah. Where it was like oh my god look at this guy he's been tricked and we're watching everything he's doing. And now fast forward, like 30 years, and like people are actively trying to become Truman. Yeah. It's like a varied, like I wonder if the guy who wrote that movie thought of data as a possibility of that. Do you remember the McConaughey one? There was a McConaughey film. TV. Ed TV. Same thing. Following a guy around his whole life. And eventually he's like, the end, he's like, I can't do this anymore. Right. I'm gonna be normal. Was it a choice that he made or was it put upon him in that movie?

3:11:33I don't remember. Did he win something? I don't know. Did he win a contest or something? Maybe think of some of that digits do this. This guy called the outdoor boys' channel. Oh yeah, I watched that guy. Yeah, he's quick. He's quick. He's too much to my family. Yeah. He's really cool. I liked his shows. He would go places and camp and cook his own food and shit. There's a bunch of those guys that I followed. I followed this one guy last night. He was in, it was like 10 degrees below zero. He's testing out the world's warmest sleeping bag. So he's got like a fire in the woods. He treks out there by himself on snowshoes with a fucking sled behind them, fill with this stuff.

3:12:08Damn. But it's interesting, man. It's fascinating. You know? Yeah, the people just want to, people, people are so, are, will walk people live life. Watch someone do something purposeful. Like when you're out in the woods and you make your own fire and you have the warmest sleeping bag, you have to have that to stay alive. Right. And that's why it's exciting to us, because everything else has no consequences. Our day is just like sure to stay awake and keep watching YouTube or show you go to bed. It should probably go to bed now give me a little more hour one more hour of watching bullshit Wasting your time.

3:12:40Yeah, and this guy's out there in the woods doing something below zero in this sleeping bag All I can see out of it's like because everything is a bundle up in there It's gonna stoke the fire. Oh stay warm stay alive That stuff gives me anxiety. I can't watch that too, but it's also exciting like you know You want to watch them do it and that outdoor boys guy was one of those guys And you know, I think just got too popular. Yeah, I mean, it was front page news that he quit. A YouTuber quit and it was news. He's cool though. He seems like a real sweet guy, like a real nice guy. Like everything about his show and it's interesting.

3:13:16Well, yeah, it's like a lot of these people, these are people you want to root for. Yeah, the sailboat guy, the train guy, him. It's like, I want these people to succeed. Also, this is like low production value, doing it on his own, so filming. Yeah, it's exciting. Yeah, I just probably have to pay an edit and that's about it. He might have edited himself. It's all hard to do today. No, you can kind of figure it out. If you want to really cut down the amount of people working with you, you could probably figure out how to do that. Oh, you can just watch a YouTube video. Yeah, you can just, you can just, you can time, you can edit it all yourself.

3:13:45And then, you know, you're kind of your own production. And then just by word of mouth, this guy got big. Because it's quite fun to watch. Right. And like pretty intense, the stuff he does sometimes. Yeah, he gets out there in the woods, bro. Yeah, I saw this one video of him where he like, like, oh, thank God I found this cabin. Otherwise I would have been fucked. Imagine as that's your dad though, and you have to watch in your little kid, like, we almost lost that. Yeah. And how close were you? No, I was exaggerating for the show. I knew where I was. Yeah, it must be weird having a famous parent.

3:14:16Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, how do your kids do it? Like, is it? They handle it pretty well because they've always had a famous parent. Oh, you didn't become famous while it was, yeah. That would be even weirder. Right. That's the weirdest. For them, that's like what's normal. If they always do up in it, it's like it's whatever. Yeah. It's a problem. You know what else is wrong? I got a piece so bad. Woo! Draft this up. Three hours, dude. Fluella. Hell yeah. Crazy. Tell everybody your Instagram and, bro, first of all, I'm super excited to watch you do stand -up. You've been fucking killing it. Thank you.

3:14:48Really fun. It's fun to watch. It's fun to watch you write and, you know, you're, there's a lot of what, I mean, I've known you for so long now because I knew you at the comedy store to see you from there. to where you are now, it's super inspiring. Thank you, thank you. I'm glad, and I thank you too for the opportunity for a place where I could work as hard as I'm able to work. It's like. You're making the most of it. Me and Tony were talking about it last night. You were literally making the most of it and all these young guys went up. I used to have, there used to be this, I watched, I loved the Niners, and Steve Young is talking about his super bowl winning performance.

3:15:22It's like, I was given this opportunity to show how great I could be. So let me show how great I could be. It's like, oh, if you're giving me this opportunity to like get up all the time. Yeah. Let me write. Let me be, let me be helpful to other young comics. Let me just be a part of the scene. It's a process work. It works. See it work. It works. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, hopefully you can follow me at Assan J Ahmad, EHSJ, A -H -M -E -D. I have a podcast with my friend Derek, who's a recent dad. Yeah, a recent dad called the Solid Show. I think our chemistry on there is phenomenal. Oh, it's phenomenal.

3:15:51Derek is the best. Yeah. He's so lovable. He's the, maybe the most likable guy that's ever lived. He might be. He's like a cartoon character almost. So, if you don't like Derek, how the fuck are we gonna have a conversation? So, everybody loves that guy. Yeah, that's, yeah. Oh my god. And then that's my podcast. So yeah, just follow me on there. And then I think this year, especially these last few sets of and having is like, oh, I gotta film something. Beautiful. I wanna, yeah, I wanna, I gotta find a way to do it. But I think I'll film something. Well, we'll figure that out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got 30.

3:16:19Grab this stuff. Alright. Bye everybody. Bye. Bye!

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Ehsan Ahmad is a comedian and co-host of "The Solid Show" with Deric Poston.

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