#2334 - Kash Patel

24:47You've seen the reports. But when I did that, when I exposed that initially as a staffer on the hill, Adam Schiff comes out and has his cronies leaked to the world that I am acting as a genocidal dictator. There was actually an article that called genocidal dictator. I got to get better. Yeah, no, it gets better. How do you get to be a dictator? I don't know. Genocidal one, no, no, no, right? Like, you know, it's a two -fer. These words don't even mean anything anymore. No, he, literally there's an article out there that they called me Torquamada, the guy from the Spanish Inquisition. Jesus Christ.

25:26And I was a staffer. So the rule was you can ding elected representatives all you want in the media. You don't touch staffers. They didn't care because they knew what I had on Earth was the biggest political, criminal scheme ever perpetrated by portions of the FBI leadership and other people in the intelligence community. In coordination with the media. In coordination. And that's, you could have investigated it. But hang on, that's the kicker. So what people don't know about, racigate that Warren paying attention was that warrant that initially kicked off the Pfizer surveillance on the Trump campaign writ large was substantiated by FBI leaks to the media.

26:06Two of the articles cited in that warrant from, I think, Mother Jones and Yahoo News were leaks of information from the same leadership at the FBI, Peter Strock, Andy McCabe, James Comey and Company. And then they in the application would be like, Hey, it's not just us saying that Trump's a Russian asset, right? Look at this article, Mr. Judge on the federal Pfizer court. And they included it in that application. So this was a coordinated conspiracy to take down your political opponent by weaponizing government. And now I say that now in 2025, what I said that in 2017, whatever it was, people were like you're out of your F in mind.

26:51And I was like, Look, man, I'm just showing you the facts. I'm not making this up. I'm showing you the application. I'm showing you the documentation. And that's when they came after me. And it hasn't stopped ever since. But the damage they did, they the media and the people that wanted to take out Trump. And I didn't care what you thought about. And remember, back then, I hadn't met Trump. Never spoken to him. Didn't know him. I took that job of Congress on one condition. I said, Whatever we find, we're putting out. I'd been in for 16 years at that point. Democrats, Republicans, I was a national security guy, Intel guy.

27:22That's what I wanted to do. Chase terrorists, chase bad guys, bring hostages home and help protect the homeland. And I said, I didn't know if Trump did this. I don't know if he was colluding with whoever. I didn't know it turned out like this that they would actually manufacture and make it up. But half of America to this day still believes the narrative that the CNN's of the world push for five years. And if you look on their shows now, Russia gets keeps coming back up because we keep exposing the documents that showed how bad these guys were. And most Americans like, No, no, they're already convinced.

27:55So in order to fix that disease temple, it is just that much harder of a lift for me to go back into the FBI. We're going to get it done. But it takes so much more communication and so much more energy to get after the American people and say you were lied to because that's the hardest thing I think people can ever admit to themselves. You were lied to. I went out for years and created a life cycle out of this lie of Russia gate. I went on TV. I made money. I wrote books. I sold political advertisements based on it. I educated my children based on it because I thought it was the truth. And some of them come back and said, Yeah, we got it wrong.

28:36But most haven't. And that's the disinformation seed in my opinion that started it all. And then you could talk about things like January 6th or, you know, pick your poison rescuing hostage or what have you. The media just never got on board. They kneecap Trump from the beginning by participating in the Russia gate collusion conspiracy with the FBI. It's so crazy that someone could do something like that and a whole enormous group of people could do something like that with no repercussions. And to be able to operate and, you know, say they're the trusted source in news and you were a part of something that was one of the biggest scandals in political history.

29:17But just because of because it's targeted towards Trump, people looked the other way. Like if that was targeted towards Obama, could you imagine how psychotic the response would be? People would be up in arms and furious. But the same people that would be up in arms and furious if someone you try to do that for Obama are completely silent. It's happening to Trump. Yeah, just think about it. What if me as the FBI director and the Trump administration, right? During a presidential cycle went out there and said, Hey, Republican National Committee, do you guys have dirt on whoever's running for the Democratic nomination to be president of the United States?

29:53If you don't, can you go overseas and pay a foreign national who used to be in a musics guy? Get me some bogus intel. Then I as the FBI director will authorize the warrant, a leak to the media while I'm doing it, take their articles, put it in that warrant and then go surveil the opponent so he doesn't get elected. I would be in prison, which I should be for doing anything like crazy. And that's what people want accountability for. And that's what you ask me at the beginning of the show. You know, what's the hardest part? I'm like, Hey, I'm the guy. I think is exposing and giving you the accountability from 2017 onwards.

30:27But I wasn't the guy in charge of putting people in prison and arresting them for this conduct. And so the other education campaign I have to go on is there's this thing called the Statute of Limitations. I can't prosecute people for their crimes in the past as the Statute of Limitations has run. And I'll give you a great example that goes back right back to Russia gate. So one of the big systems I've created, maybe because of my time in Russia gate is I'm committed to congressional oversight. I'm committed to giving Congress the documents they need to do their work and give them to the American people.

31:03Unredacted, no classification BS, you want it, you get it. So we, we just think about this. Me at the director of the FBI, the former Russian guy, when I first got to the bureau, found a room that call me and others hid from the world in the Hoover building full of documents and computer hard drives that no one had ever seen or heard of. Lock the key and hit access and just said no one's ever going to find this place. What? Yeah. So my guys are going through that right now. What's in there? A lot of stuff. I mean, that's the thing. People are like, well, okay, go arrest them. And I'm like, okay, well, how about you let me run a methodical investigation while I give over information?

31:50One of the things we gave over before this, the room deal was, I don't know if you remember who Nelly or is. It doesn't really matter. Nelly or his husband, Bruce or was like the number four at the Department of Justice. And he was the one who introduced the world of Christopher Steele, the guy that started Russia gate. Well, the entire time her husband was doing that at DOJ, she Nelly or was working on an outside contract to dig up dirt on Donald Trump. So she goes to the Hill and testifies as a result of our investigation right under her. She said, I never worked and I'm paraphrasing. I never worked with my husband on any of that.

32:24I would never do that. What had Grassley put out just yesterday two days ago? The Nelly or documentation that the FBI hid to the world that we gave them, where Nelly or is caught red handed, providing information to her husband, thumb drives related to Trump Russia collusion, directly proving that Nelly or lie to Congress. Felony, can't prosecute her. Statute limitations is gone. It's just one example. Wow. What a dirty business. Yeah, I hate it. Politics is just the dirtiest. And in this age of transparency, because of the internet and social media and independent news, everybody knows about it now.

33:08If CNN and all these left -wing news sources, MSNBC, and it was only Fox on the right, and that was all we had and we had no internet. All this would be completely secret. No one would have known. The Russia gate collusion, all that stuff would be, people would really think it's a true story. It would probably take decades before someone wrote a book where people started to really take it seriously and really realize that there was something fucked up about it. Yeah. I'm not allowed to plug my book, so I won't, but I did write my book. You could plug your book. Why can't you plug your book? I think there's some rules on it about that.

33:45I could plug your book. What's your book? Give it to me. Here you go. This one's for you anyway. Government gangsters. Government gangsters by cash, Patel. Go buy it. Plugged. You didn't plug it, I did. I love it. Did you do the audio? Yeah. You read it? Oh, I got somebody to do it. My voice is not for radio or TV. Oh, come on. You got a great voice. I appreciate that. It's taken time and a lot of us who are to get to here. It would be good for you to read it. This is what you read it. Well, I mean, what's in there, but the reason I wrote it is one, I never thought I was going back in a government service.

34:16And two, part of the job to completing the mission was exposing what people didn't ever think could happen in the United States of America. And it was not just this information, misinformation, but your government and leaders and government weaponizing it for political purposes, not just FBI and DOJ, but others than the IC. And what it shows you is the back end of that, too, the rewards, right? The guys that wrapping it back up, reversing it back up, the guys that were in charge of Russia gate at the FBI, Andy McCabe, right? Remember what this guy did? Andy McCabe agreed to set in motion a plan with the deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein at the time to have him wear a wire into the Oval Office to record President Trump.

35:05That those documents we found we released them. Put that aside. While Andy McCabe was in charge of the Trump Russia gate collusion investigation, his wife was running for political office in the state of Virginia. Do you know who's funding her campaign for political office to the $600 ,000 Hillary Clinton world, who happened to be running against Donald Trump? Do you know what Andy McCabe did? He leaked information about the Clinton investigation to the media, unlawfully, as the deputy director of the FBI got caught by us, then lied about it to federal authorities. And that's the reason Andy McCabe was dismissed.

35:48Do you know what the Biden administration did? They allowed him to retire out of the FBI with full benefits. He got rewarded. Do you know what he does now? He's on CNN. Do you know who's also on CNN? Peter Strock, the head of the counterintelligence unit that had that affair with Lisa Page, who basically put out those text messages, who was running that investigation with Andy McCabe and said, Trump people smell in Walmart and we're never going to let them win. I have an insurance policy. That guy's on CNN. So they get rewarded for putting on this disinformation campaign for this illegal activity because the media will never correct or some portion of the media will never correct the record.

36:29Remember, these guys got Pulitzer's New York Times same thing. These guys got the biggest award in journalism. They were proven wrong, not by me, by the own evidence created by, you know how I caught these guys because these guys were so arrogant, they would write everything down. And I found the documents. Why would they write everything down? They're so arrogant. They think no one's going to catch us. I'm going to write everything down. We're going to put it in a lock box. We're going to put it in a vault and no one's going to find it. Well, you know what? I found the vault and now I'm going to work.

37:00Wow. Now is there a statute of limitations on those crimes? So generally the statute of limitations on crimes for process crimes that we call them it's five years. But if you can time to an overarching conspiracy, there is no statute of limitations. So if there was more egregious conduct that no one knew about before, that we are just finding and we are investigating, then we'll have to relook at it. The one thing we will do is put out all that information to the American public once we actually get through it. And we'll give it a congress. And if we can work with our partners at DOJ to come up with a prosecution, that will be their decision.

37:37We'll do it. The disturbing thing about all this to me is how people on the left are willing to look the other way. Because this is just a dangerous precedent. If the federal government is doing this and they're doing this to someone you consider an enemy, what's the stop this from doing that against your candidate? This is unprecedented behavior that's tolerated and coordinated with the media. That's dangerous for the country. But people are so ideologically captured. They're so locked into their party and by any means necessary, we got to get Trump out and they push that narrative so hard that they're willing to do a very un -American thing.

38:22Yeah. And my goal now that I'm back in government is to make sure this doesn't happen again ever. That's the goal. How can you do that? How can you make sure it doesn't happen again ever? Exposing it all. And I know there are people and look, people keep calling me insane. When are you going to rest there? When are you going to go out there and arrest everybody that did everything that Donald Trump was like, first of all, you guys were barking at people who were in the seat before me to do that and they didn't. They failed. The difference between me and that guy is one on the guy that exposed it to, I didn't tell you this, I was the guy.

38:56They targeted it. So while I was doing the Rushing Gate investigation, do you know what Trump's own DOJ, Rod Rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, the Department of Justice, Christopher Ray, then director of the FBI, did to me and a dozen other staffers who were working Rushing Gate. They subpoenaed all of our information while I was running the Rushing Gate investigation. We wouldn't find out for five years. You want to know why? Because these guys were so vindictive, they went to the federal court and not only got a search warrant, they got a judge to say to all the telecom companies, Google, Facebook, everybody else, your banking companies, everybody.

39:32Do not tell them for five years that we authorized this subpoena. So I just found that out last year. Wow. This is how hard, this is what I'm trying to show. It's not a Republican or Democratic thing, right? It's an all hands on approach to protect the leadership that was so corrupt, to protect themselves and their actions and their friends. My mission is to educate the world that this happened. And as director of the FBI of responsibility, I'm not just going to bring a case because somebody hurt me. They did and they continue to do it. My house just got swatted yesterday. What? Yeah. But you got swatted?

40:11Oh, yeah. The head of the FBI gets swatted? Yeah. Yeah. These people play, it's the ultimate height of hypocrisy. They have two sets of rules. One against you and one for them.

40:30And what I want to do is lay out that entire body of work for the American people with Congress. And I'm doing it with guys like Grassley and Jordan and Kennedy and Rand Paul on COVID -19. And we could talk about the origins. We actually have some pretty cool developments on that front. And let the American people know that my mission has always been to put out the truth, whatever the consequences are. Whoever it's against, like I did when I signed up for a reshagate, if Donald Trump was a Russian asset and I proved it, I was telling the world that. That's what matters. And if we can hold people accountable in terms of indictments, then we'll work with our partners at DOJ.

41:08But what I'm asking people is, don't trust me. I don't care about that. Look at what I have done and what we have done. That's the guy that's now in charge of the FBI. His leadership team is in place. We've got great partners at DOJ, where are the ones working all and all this stuff? And look, let's just get to it because I know it's on people's mind. Epstein, right? The reason people are pissed off about that is the same thing, right? 20 years ago, or whenever it was, 2006, 2008, Epstein gets a sweetheart plea deal, right? After committing the most horrific crimes on planet Earth, right? I wasn't in power there.

41:48I wasn't in place there. You know, nothing to do with it. But people were rightfully pissed. I mean, this guy was committing the most grotesque acts you can against children. And the media spins up about it. Many in the media protect them. Why? Because of his relationships, who he knew, who his bankers were, who his colleagues were, who was on the island and stuff like that. Some pretty powerful human beings. And so when you peel back the layer and then you, and then what happened? The Trump administration, the last go around decided, no, no, we're not going to let that go. We're going to investigate it, right?

42:21They charge and they indict them. And he's awaiting trial. And I've said it, Dan Bangeino said it, we've reviewed all the information and the American public is going to get as much as we can release. He killed himself. Do you think, let's play a theological conclusion of this? Do you think that myself, Bon Gino and others would participate in hiding information about Epstein's grotesque activities? Or do you think we would also participate in not prosecuting people. We had evidence to prosecute people on. But the problem is there's been like 15 years of people coming in and creating fictions about this that doesn't exist.

43:04Where's the video tape of an Epstein island of X, Y, and Z committing these frauds? Why haven't you given it to us? Do you really think I wouldn't give that to you if it existed? I'm working my ass off, along with the leadership at the Bureau and DOJ to get you what we're allowed to give you. You're going to get the video of the cell and you're going to see for yourself. We will never be able to convince everyone. Okay, let's get into that. What did you think before you got an office? Did you think that Epstein was murdered? No. No suspicion at all of it. But I have a different background, right?

43:39I was a public defender back in the day. I used to spend a lot of time in jails and a lot of time in segregated housing units, shoes, as we call them. Right? And so, and I've known people that have committed suicide in these cells. And I know how you get in, how you get out, who works the system. And so the way, based on public information at the time that he ended up with the pictures and him hanging himself, I was like, man, I can't kill himself. There's just no way that you could have run an op and had people go into that cell and not have any video of it and not have any people come out and say, hey, yeah, I saw that guy.

44:20He shouldn't have been there the guard or this guy. There's just no access points into places like this in the detention center. He wasn't, which I've been in. So correct me if I'm wrong, but what I was told, what I'd read was that the guards were not paying attention or were sleeping. Well, right? Yeah. And in short order, you'll see it. Is that, is that correct? Well, it's hard to surmise that from a video, right? Right. Where they like, you know, and look, do guards doze off on the night shift? Yeah. But no one can get in to the cell. And if they had gotten in to the cell, you would see it.

44:53But we were told that the cameras were down. Well, I don't know who said that. But that was, that was in the news. We're giving you all the footage we have. So why wasn't that released like immediately? Why, why did this speculation escalate? I think you'd have to ask, who was over the attorney general back then was Bill Barr? Did you ever see, do you remember that HBO autopsy show, Dr. Michael Badden? He's a famous forensic scientist. So he's a pathologist and he reviewed the case. And it was his determination that it was a homicide because of the way his neck was broken. And what he said was it was indicative of a ligature strangulation.

45:38And it was because of the positioning on the neck where the marks were that it wasn't indicative of someone hanging by their weight, which had been higher on the chin. And there was a specific break of the bones and the vertebrae that's consistent with someone who is just strangled to death. I haven't seen it. I'll definitely take a look at it because that's part of my job. Yeah. You haven't seen that? The report? No, I haven't looked at that. Did you see any, was there any other autopsy done other than the official one? Not to my nose, but if there was, you'll get it. And that's what we're doing.

46:12See if you could find that Dr. Michael Badden thing. Did you remember that show? The HBO show? No. Pretty cool show. So this guy, Dr. Michael Badden, he had a long career of catching murders, you know, exhuming bodies, finding trace amounts of poisons, different kinds of things. And it was a crazy show. Like all these wild ways. Well, I love watching shows and I spend a lot of time on plants. Yeah, it was an old show. It was a show like from the early 2000s, I believe. But this guy was like, you know, it's very well respected forensic scientists who would analyze these bodies. And it was his determination that he was murdered.

46:48Yeah. And my job going back to the core of what I've been doing since I stood rustic. It was to get and is to get everybody the information. When did you get here? Epstein's autopsy points to homicide pathologist hired by brother claims. New York City medical examiner strongly disputed the claim that the evidence from the autopsy suggests his triangulation. So let's go to the, by the way, this is the New York Times and they never lie. Private pathologist Dr. Michael Badden said the morning TV show Fox and Friends, Mr. Epstein experienced a number of injuries among them, a broken bone in his neck that are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.

47:30I think the evidence points to homicide rather than suicides. Dr. Badden who observed the autopsy done by city officials. Dr. Badden, a former New York City medical examination and a Fox news contributor said, I have not seen in 50 years where that occurred in suicidal hanging case. Findings by Dr. Badden were strongly disputed by the city's chief medical examiner, Dr. Barbara Samson, who previously ruled that Mr. Epstein's death on August 10th in the Metropolitan Correctional Center was a suicide, I stand firmly behind our determination of the cause and manner of death in this case. Dr. Samson said in the interview on Wednesday, she added, in general, fractures of the high oid bone and cartilage can be seen in suicides and homicides.

48:11The high oid bone is near the Adam's apple. Dr. Samson also dismissed Dr. Badden's contention that the circumstances around Mr. Epstein's death suggested other people may have been involved. She said her office had done a complete investigation taken into consideration information gathered by law enforcement and making the determination. Dr. Badden So this is a perfect example of going back to my public defender in prosecutor days. This is what we call a war of experts. You can always find someone to come in and say the opposite. And I used to do it all the time. I mean, I represented some of the worst humans that you can possibly imagine on earth.

48:48Literally, the guys that were trafficking children from Mexico into America. And you can put up a professional expert to say, and this is what's going to go on forever. And my job is not the forever. My job is to get you absolutely everything that we can give you. And that's what we're going to do. When did you become aware of this video that showed that no one had gone in and out of the cell recently? So why was it recent though? I mean, if this death was, how long ago was this death? Two years. A couple. 2019? Oh, really? A long time flies. So six years. Well, again, that's part of what I'm going to try to answer for you.

49:29Jeffrey Epstein, JLCC TV, Erased by Technical Errors. Whoopsies. Yeah. But you see how anybody on the outside. I mean, this is like a perfect storm. Yeah. Can you pull that article up so we can read what it says, Jimmy? US prosecutor said the jail mistakenly saved footage from the wrong cell. Epstein, a convicted sex offender first tried to kill himself in July last year and hanged himself in jail. Hang on. Yep. reread that line that he first tried to kill himself in July last year. How much of the American public do you think knows that? I didn't know that. I don't know right now. There you may be.

50:05I heard it and forgot. Did you ever hear it, Jimmy? That's why he's on suicide watch, I think. Oh, okay. So a guy. He's on himself in jail in August while serving trial on federal sex trafficking charge. He pleaded not guilty to abusing dozens of girls. Some of his young is 14 soon after Epstein's death in August to the CCTV CCTV cameras outside his cell of malfunction. And we're being examined by the FBI found semi -conscious in his prison cell with injuries on his neck on 25 July after the incident. He's placed on suicide watch. I'm not saying every single camera in the place is working. I'm saying we've got footage and you're getting it.

50:42And then you can make up your own mind. All right. The theories can continue. But my job is to give you this. So you became aware of this footage recently? The ones that we're looking at, yeah. Right. And so, but this is like an article from quite a while ago that was saying that the footage was mistakenly erased. Look, I mean, it goes back to the same, ask the people that were in power then. I mean, I get it that you want to hold me to account for their actions and not you. I'm not saying that. Not you, just the public in general. That's okay. What's confusing to everybody today, first of all, it's very confusing because AI can kind of make anything.

51:18Which has got to be a bizarre position for you to be in. When you're looking at videos, I mean, I've watched Viking videos. It looked real as fuck, you know? They just make Viking towns. I mean, it's really quite incredible what they're doing now. It accelerates every month. I mean, I talked to Elon about it and he said we're blown away literally every week. There's some new breakthrough that we're like, wow, we didn't expect that. This episode is brought to you by Farmer's Dog. It doesn't matter how old your dog is. It's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness. And thankfully, the Farmer's Dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies.

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53:16Learn more at wedeliverforamerica .org. Pay for by the American Beverage Association. I can tell you after having looked at it, this ain't going to be AI. You don't think so? You're going to, it's just not great. If it were AI, someone wanted to come in and make it, they'd make it better. But why would you make it better when people could, you know, you could have ambiguous footage that is totally generated by AI? I mean, AI can generate blurry images, AI can generate night vision, AI can generate, essentially anything that's already existed, like really shitty 1984 VHS tapes, they can do that.

53:54They can. But I'm telling you, I'm giving you the tape from the tape. You know, there's just like I'm giving you the documents from the vault, just like I'm giving you information to Congress on COVID origins or what have you. What we find is what you're getting. Okay. So now it's saying 2019, missing jail video from the first Jeffrey Epstein series, for the first attempt has been found. So maybe let's put it into perspective, jails are not the most efficient, best run place is it's not like Fort Knox. Yeah. No, it's not. It's, yeah. You know, we're working with what we got. Right. So, and listen, this guy's not the only guy to kill himself in prison.

54:37It happens, I don't know how often. Right. All the time. Even if he killed himself in prison. So if he, if he was murdered in prison, crazy, right? You could see why very powerful people wouldn't want to talk. If he was murdered and segregated housing in isolation after being on suicide watch in a place in a detention center that I've physically been in myself, it would be fiction. It's just in my experience, that is not doable. It's not doable, even for the most powerful and wealthiest people in the world. Wouldn't you think though that like if, if someone was in a position where a guy could release information that could potentially damage the most wealthy people on earth, you would have a concerted effort that's unprecedented.

55:24Sure. You would have the resources that we could even possibly comprehend all pointing towards eliminating this one person that it could be done. But I mean, so many people have been implicated, right? And some of that information, what do they do to Prince Andrew and everybody else is already out there. And so that's the conspiracy stuff that me, Bungino and the folks have to say, look, we will give you everything we can. And then we will have done our job. Also, if I had a shred, me, Kashpatel, had a shred of evidence, the Roshakaya guy, the Jansik's guy, the COVID -19 origin's guy, had a shred of evidence that this guy was murdered.

56:07I would be the first guy to bring this case hard and fast. And I would do even doing press conferences every week on it. The first guy. That's what I'm asking people to play out to the logical conclusion. I'm not combing, I'm not m 'cape, I'm not the guy that was in the seat before. I have a wildly different background. I've been putting out the truth my entire career. Why would I risk all of it on this guy? I believe you can test the letter. I believe you. I just think that the problem is we've been fuming on this conspiracy for so long. And we love conspiracies, don't we? Oh, good. There's so much I made.

56:45JMK tapes, come on. Release the documents. We all love them. We love it. We love UFO ones. We love everything. We love the craziest conspiracies. They're exciting. We don't want to hear. They try to kill himself in July and then succeeded in August. And look, I could imagine why the guy wanted to kill himself. He was going to jail for the rest of his fucking life. And in jail, sex offenders for children are not treated well. And also, by the way, most Americans have it, nor should they. Have you ever spent one minute in segregated housing? No. It's the worst. The absolute worst. Like you and your background, you could probably handle it.

57:24Just in reality, most Americans, you put them in there for five seconds. They're going to slam their head against the wall. Literally, they're going to lose their mind immediately. Yeah. It's that bad. I'm sure. I could only imagine. And I could only imagine this guy knowing that it's over. And what do you want to do? Do you want to? Yeah. And then who knows who the fuck he's working for? Let's just put that aside. Now, if you're working for, let's just, we don't have the name names. We don't, we don't have to speculate. If he's working for some agency, some group, some foreign group, and they decide to target his family because he, look, he's going to jail for the rest of his life anyway.

58:05They decide to target his family if he testifies against them. I could see where I, if I thought that it was, like, I'm going to be in jail for the rest of my life, or I tell, and my family winds up being killed, or destroyed, or who knows? Maybe you'd say, look, the honorable thing is to end it in prison. Honorable cowardly thing. Cowardly whatever it is. Like, on the outside. At some point, that guy was going back in a gin pop. And the one thing I'll tell you about prison systems is the people they eat, our child predators. Yes. Well, no. And he was going to get eaten. Well, no. Yeah. And they probably wouldn't have protected him.

58:41Yeah. Yeah. So the narrative has always been that there's video. Now, what is the chain of custody? Is there evidence that there is video? Is there evidence that it was moved around, stored, protected from people looking at it? You're going to get all that information. Like, that's literally what we're putting together. And we're going to give you every single thing we have in Ken. And that's the whole point. We can't fill gaps by making stuff up. And we're not going to do that. And you have to be a rhetorical. And we have to be, that's the other thing, right? We're reviewing not just the video.

59:21We're reviewing everything as meticulously as we can. Because that's what we owe the American people. That's our job. And I want to rush to the sticks for the podium and just say, hey, look what we found. And then be like, oh, sorry. I forgot the four seconds. We missed four seconds and be like, oh, well, it's in the four seconds you missed. So how much can you talk about what you've seen? Not yet. Just what I've told you. Can you say you've seen anything? No, that's the point that there's nothing in there like in the video. You guys are me bored. You talking about the video of the murder or the suicide.

1:00:02But what about the video from the island? Oh, that's it. Sorry. So you're talking about two different things. Yes. So, yeah. So again, we're going to give you everything we can and people have to remember, we're not going to revictimize women. We're not going to put that ship back out there. It's not happening because then he wins. Not doing it. You want to hate me for it? Fine. Again, logical play out. If there was a video of some guy or gal committing felonies on an island and I'm in charge, don't you think you'd say it? If you have access to it. If I have it. Period. If I have it. If I have it.

1:00:44So where else would it be? Right. If you have it. Right. But you can't say that you have it. No, we're giving you everything we have. So far. Everything we have so far is that you guys gone over all the video that's available. Yeah, that's what I'm telling you. That's what takes so much time. Right. And is there video from the island? Not of what you want. The people out there have filled the void with can't wait to see X, Y or Z. Right. Speculation. And I'm like, here's the other thing I've been asking for, right? Openly. If you have information on this, call us. Tell us. The best resource we have is the American people in the world.

1:01:27Right. Get me the tail numbers. Get me the flight. Get me new information. And I will run that down. So this narrative might not be accurate. That there's video of these guys doing this. Exactly. Is it possible that the video was taken and destroyed? Well, you're talking about what decades were at this stuff, right? Remember, we have what we have pursuant to lawful search warrants and authorities from the case that was done. However many years ago was done. That's what we have. If other people have other stuff, then they want to give it to us. Bring it. Have you guys reviewed everything that you have?

1:02:06Almost. Like, that's, I mean, yes, we have. And now we're figuring out how to put it out. Now, I understand that you would never revictimize these women and show this footage. But is there footage? Outside of the only thing I can say right now is if there was ever, if there was footage of anyone doing anything else, we would have opened a case. Is it possible that there was footage that you just will never have access to because they've already gotten rid of it? I mean, anything's possible, right? Well, there was a long time, right? Between the time when it was clear that Kamala lost the election and that Trump won.

1:02:48Yeah. I mean, I got to hear, I got into office. I got to hear 100 days ago, literally. Right. Exactly. It was just kind of crazy. So I'm doing what I can. And that's this type of stuff, like, you know, and I'm happy to talk about it and bring it up. But what I'm trying to achieve at the Bureau is not only are we doing what's of public interest, what's of great public interest, our biggest job, our biggest job is to defend the homeland and stop kids from dying. That's my, well, that's my biggest job. And that's what I'm focused on. And I think we can do all those things and we're doing them really well.

1:03:24And I think if you give us just like another 100 days, it's not a lot of time. I've been literally, I just hit my 100 day mark like two days. Right. You're gonna see a ton of stuff. You're already seeing it. We just hit that. We just rolled out the Catholic memo, the truth about that. What is that? The last administration, the FBI wrote a memo targeting Catholics. Remember the Richmond Catholic memo? I don't remember that. Okay, so basically they, there was a write up from the FBI relying on the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is like the modern day fusion GPS. And basically said, Catholics should be targeted as domestic terrorists.

1:04:06Yeah. So then Chris Ray, the former FBI director went to Capitol Hill and testified about it. And the Congress was like, wait a second, is this real? Is it predicated on natural facts? And how, how wide is it? Is it one office? Is it all these people across the country? Are Catholics being targeted as domestic terrorists? And what ended up happening was Ray said, I was just one office, one memo, nothing to see here. Well, what we just rolled out again to Congress this week to Chuck Grassley who put it out was that in fact, it was multiple offices, multiple memos that were weaponizing law enforcement to target a religious group during an election cycle.

1:04:49And we proved it. And now everybody has read it. Why, why were they targeting the Catholics? I don't know, you'd have to ask the people that got here before I did. Did you have any suspicion of what kind of motivation they would have to do that? I think when you use, it goes back to rusticated. If you're willing to use Mickey Mouse journalism, if you're willing to use the fusion GPS and Christopher Steele's of the world, like the leadership at the FBI then did, then it has a chance to replicate itself. And that's what happened. I don't know if you know anything about the Southern Property Law Center, but it's, they literally are the ones that sent information to the FBI and the FBI said, oh, we'll write a memo.

1:05:27And so that's the type of work that I think gives credibility back to the bureau us exposing it, us giving Congress the truth. Congress coming back in and saying, hey, you actually didn't give us the hysmine, you gave us the documents, we gave it to the American people. And if there were criminal referrals to come out of that, then let's do that. I mean, we just had a great break through this week on Fauci. So Senator Ann Paul, Senator Kennedy, and I hate name names because I was forget people, are doing a great job with us on COVID origins. And we've got multiple investigations open on that. But they had always been looking for Fauci's original phone and, or not original, but phones and devices he used while he was Fauci back in Trump on during COVID.

1:06:14And nobody had found it. Tell two days ago. Really? Yeah. Now look, your audience and everybody listening to it shouldn't jump to the conclusion. Everything's in there. We'll look at it. We'll pull it, we'll rip it as we say. And maybe it's deleted. Maybe it's not. But at least we found it. And at least now we can tell the American people we've been looking because it is a public importance to figure out did that guy lie? Did he intentionally mislead the world and cost countless? That's we owe those answers to the American people. And the best evidence ever is always the people's evidence who created it.

1:06:51And so now we're gonna go and exploit those hard drives. But I think a victory for the American people that we broke with Congress is that we did find it. We're not done. We're still looking and we're on the case. So whether it's Richmond, Catholic memo, whether it's Fauci, COVID origins, whatever becomes a race, rush a gay, crossfire hurricane, whatever becomes a great public importance, that's a big part of what we do at the FBI too. The crossfire hurricane one has been in this. Well, that's all rush a gay, yeah, it's completely nuts. I mean, we can do three days on that. I mean, that's like, I spend.

1:07:22It's bananas. I mean, there's so many things in the past that you get like the operation fast and furious. Yeah, the guns. Insane, which led to the death of American lives. Of a federal agent. And there's just things that like I see that you would think I would have more uproar even as much time I've been doing this that don't and things that wouldn't have, that in my mind to be like, no one's gonna pay attention and people are like, oh my god. And so that's part of the learning curve for me too, like trying to figure out what the balance is. Should I be given this so much attention, so much resources?

1:07:59But then when I have to call a parent because their kids dead from fentanyl or when I have to call a cops family and I call every single line of duty death that we have in this country, I call everyone's chief and I call their families. And I'm glad that the numbers are going down in terms of how many have been killed this year versus last year. How much of the numbers gone down? By over 15 % so far, but I wanna be at zero. That's where my focus needs to be. 15 % in a hundred days still. Pretty good. Give or take a couple of points. And that's where my focus, that's where the FBI's focus needs to be.

1:08:38These guys are on the line. We're doing all these raids across the country and Homeland Security Task Force. We just hit a 10 ,000 mark. We just arrested over 10 ,000 people in the hundred and change days that we've been doing this with DHS. Huge, right? On Illegals and whatnot. We also just like, this is great. This piece of information has actually made me happy. We are on track to have the lowest homicide rate ever. Murder rate, excuse me, murder rate ever. In the country. Yeah. Really? We're already, and look, we got six more months to go. So we're not done yet for the year, but we're already down 20 % from last year and we broke it this week that right now, the murder rate.

1:09:23If we, the FBI and our government partners achieve the mission, we'll give the American people the lowest murder rate in decades. That's incredible. And that's what I'm the most on. What steps have been made to do that? Like how did that become real? So I think, and I've worked with cops and law enforcement a lot in the past, and you have to. They're awesome. All they wanted to do was do the work. Once President Trump got elected and before even got the nomination, right? And excuse me when I was traveling country with them before, before that, they were like, take the handcuffs off of us. Let us go do our jobs.

1:10:04And that's where I came up with like good cops be cops. I said, if I'm going to get this job, that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to let you, the agents, the police officers, the sheriffs go out there and do the work. You so badly want to do. And I'm going to give you the resources you need to do it. And I'm going to take away the politicization and weaponization saying, oh, we can't target this group or this thing or this area. And that's it. That's what we've done. Everywhere I go, I speak to cops across this country constantly. And it's a humbling message that I receive back every time I talk to them.

1:10:37They're like, and it's not me. It's the president's administration and our entire government that's doing it. They're like, thank you for letting us do the work. We want to chase child predators. We want to bust up MS -13. I mean, look at the victories we've had for the American people. In the first two months, the FBI arrested three, not one, not two, but three of the world's most top 10 wanted fugitives. Three, one of them happened to be the guy that was the Abbey Gate bomber. What was the Abbey Gate bomber? The terrorist that blew up 13 US soldiers in the Afghan withdrawal. Oh, I did it with my interagency partners in a week.

1:11:18In a week, we found that guy went to Pakistan, brought him back here. Now there's others responsible for it and we're chasing them down too. But the question the American people should be asking is, why didn't the prior administration putting aside the disasters withdrawal from Afghanistan? A plan that they completely politicized. We handed it off them a proper way to do it and methodical way to do it. And they just said, FU, we're doing it this way. And you saw the videos and you saw people plunging from our aircrafts and you saw Abbey Gate in 13 Americans did. Why didn't anyone go get justice for those families?

1:11:56Well, that's the priority that the president said. We're gonna go find them. And we'd like good cops, be cops, we'd let federal agents be agents, we let our intel community focus intelligence collection on terrorists and we went and got that guy. It's so hard to believe that it's really that simple that it's just they weren't given the resources and they weren't given the support to let cops be cops and that they could have done this all along. I don't know if that's the only answer. I'm just telling you what I'm doing and I think we're seeing some results. I appreciate that, but as a person, again, who loves conspiracies.

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1:14:27Well, you have to look at the landscape of the last, I don't know, four, eight, 12 years call it, right? It was an intentional decision, and this isn't politics. It was just an intentional decision to say, we're gonna let all these people into our country and let them stay. The result of that is, you know, this is another part of the lift that we're going with the Bureau. We call them KSTs, known or suspected terrorists. They get pinged at the border, the northern border and the southern border, and then the last administration said, you guys can come in. And then one of the most terrifying things I heard was, my predecessor Christopher Ray went to Congress a year or two ago and said, well, the last year's annual statistics for KSTs was a few dozen and we don't know where they are in America.

1:15:17What do you mean you don't know where they are? How is that not a national security crisis? And so what we're doing, while we're doing these raids and chasing down illegals, is trying to target those with terrorist affiliations, those who are terrorists, those are in our homeland because the last administration let them be here. And that's, you can say I'm being political, I don't really care, but that's me being the FBI director and saying Americans come first. And we're protecting our up. And we're chasing them down. And DHS is doing a great job. And so is our intelligence community and so are the local police departments who are now working with us and not living in sanctuary cities and allowing police stations to be burnt to the ground, working with us and not having law enforcement attacked constantly for just doing the job of protecting the American people.

1:16:12I think that's the tectonic shift in the mentality of what this administration has brought in. Now, people are still vilifying us for doing that. How dare you separate families they'll say and I'm like, how dare you separate a mom from a kid on a fentanyl overdose? How dare you separate an American soldier's mom or dad from the guy that got blown up at Abbey Gate? I have different priorities. I have a different view of it. And so that's the ethos I'm bringing to the Bureau. I appreciate everything you guys are doing. I just, I'm baffled to try to come up with any kind of an explanation why anybody would let known or suspected terrorists into the country and just let them loose.

1:16:53I mean, when you, I mean, I know you can't speculate but when you take office and you realize all this is going on, like what is going through your mind? Like how are you processing this? Like is this pure incompetence? Is this malice? Is this, is this a foolhardy adherence to ideology and just to completely ignore the danger that they're putting the American people in by doing this? It's, I think it, no, it's intentional. The intentional decision was when you're going to let in, what is it, 9 million people, a lot of them are going to be criminals. So a lot of them are going to be TDA. You saw what they didn't call it out.

1:17:37A lot of them are going to be MS -13. A lot of them are going to be narcotrophicers, which when you, when you allow narcotrophicers in the country, you're automatically bringing sex traits, trafficking, human trafficking and drug trafficking automatically. And the drug traffickers have partnered with the terrorist organizations in our adversaries. We haven't even talked about Russia and the CCP and how they've combined forces over the last however many years to infiltrate America, not just with people, but our cyber capabilities in our infrastructure. And so when I come into a job like this, patience is one of the hardest things you have to manage because you can't fix everything overnight.

1:18:12You have to build up the workforce, you have to get them the resources, you have to fix the infrastructures that's broken. I mean, I'll just give you a quick example. The building that the FBI had called headquarters to Hoover Building is like 70 years old. I literally have netting, mesh netting, holding up the side of the building because pieces of concrete fall off of it. So it doesn't hit people in the head. I'm not kidding. I'm dead serious. So I said, how about we give the workforce a safe place to work? So we're moving out of there. And people think it's a political decision. Ocaspa tells taking the FBI out of the historic Hoover Building.

1:18:51Yeah, cause I don't want people to die. And I think they deserve a better workplace than something that's 70 years old that has pipes exploding literally every single week, every week. And also we're gonna save the taxpayer money. We're gonna get out of a building that would cost billions to fix. And we're gonna move into a location that's already built instead of a 15 year government boondoggle, an hour outside of DC. And we're gonna stay in DC. We're gonna stay near our partners in government. And we're gonna put out the workforce and spread them out across the country like I talked to you about earlier and put more agents on the streets and put more agents in Indian country and put more agents in your communities and intel analysts to figure out where the crime is.

1:19:28But that all of that takes time. I can't do it overnight. But why do you say Indian country? What about tribal lands? Well, what about tribal lands is problematic. Oh man, so this year, thank you so much for bringing us up. It's one of my biggest priorities. So the tribal, and I just met with almost all of the, the chiefs and the leaders of the tribal communities in America. The crimes they have committed on what we call Indian country is justice horrific if not worse than the rest of America. Look up the story about Emily Pike, whose family is still waiting for her arms. This child was murdered on a reservation and they found a piece of her body and not the murder and not the rest of her body.

1:20:13They are plagued by drugs and they have never been a priority in terms of law enforcement working together. And now remember, you're talking about two different sets of legal structures, right? They have their own and we have a road. But what I've asked of them, and what they've asked of me is pay more attention and give us more resources. What I've asked of them is said, hey, all the leaders said, let my guys on. Let my guys come to you and let's work together on solving some of these horrific, horrific crimes. The trafficking, the murders, and the violent crime on Indian reservations is skyrocketing.

1:20:51And I'm not going to treat people who live in the United States of America differently because they have a different way of life. We're going to help them. And we put out operation not forgotten where we deployed this month in this summer. I can't remember how many agents and intel analysts, specifically to remote tribal locations to solve crimes that have not been solved for years, specifically the most violent. And we're going to double down on that. And as Bongino likes to say, this summer we are unleashing a massive operation across the country. As Dan calls it, it's a bad day to be a bad guy this summer because the FBI is putting out all these extra agents and personnel into the field.

1:21:34And we're going to come find you. If you think you can nest in our communities and find safe haven, you're going to prison. That's great to hear. So when what is the, when you guys sit around and you think about the motivation to let all these people into the country, I mean, again, you're kind of speculating. But why do you think they allowed it? Why do you think they allowed the border to be wide open like that? You know, in my job now, that's like one of those political decisions. And so I try to stay out of that. But how was that political to leave the border like that? How was a national security issue political?

1:22:11So that's just it. From my perspective, it's a national security decision. And they failed on the national security mission. But I think where the decision from that administration to do that was a political one. That's what I'm trying to sort of separate. I've always viewed it singularly, protecting the border, preventing drugs from coming in, preventing terrorists from coming in, preventing people from... But what political decision could be made that makes any sense at all to not do that? I don't think there is one. But unfortunately, they did it anyway. Do you think it was just that Biden was just not there?

1:22:46And everyone else that was really running things was completely incompetent, was focused on other things, was focused on maybe the optics of border protection that somehow or another, there was some negative connotation to it politically. I think it's... I always say this. I think it's dismissive to say those people were incompetent. They're super smart. They're not dumb. And whether or not Biden was running things or whatever conversation for other people to have. But there's lots of people around him who are very smart who are in government for a long time. And they... This is what I mean, they politicized the national security and law enforcement apparatus of this country by making those decisions.

1:23:30The why you'd have to ask them, that's why they did that, why they thought that was okay. And why people think it's okay for James Comey to go down a beach and put up 8647. That's another political act that hurts our national security from smart people who are doing it intentionally. And maybe because it's they want press, maybe because it's they're selling a book, maybe because it's they want notoriety. I don't know the answer to that. But for me, it's all national security related. And these people keep doing it over and over again. The good thing is now there's a bull work against it because we're in.

1:24:08And the president just is not having any of it. What was the case very recently where you guys caught a scientist bringing in pathogens? Yeah. There he is. So I brought this for a reason. This means sport. Yeah. Fucking New York Post is the best. They're the best. They have the best headlines ever. Yeah. So it's so funny. It's based so the case is still go. It's obviously ongoing since we just made the arrest. I'm a little limited what I can say. But back and up to truck a little bit. Agro terrorism is a thing. Right? The CCP isn't just coming at us with fentanyl and coming at us in our cyber infrastructure.

1:24:45And our capabilities in space and underwater. They are literally exporting people to the United States of America. Having them end up being senior researchers like this individual at the University of Michigan. And the bureau picked up on this and said, wait a second, why are you bringing you and her husband is also indicted but he's in mainland China. So he's not here. But we retraced what he did. And what's public now is that he also tried to come to this country to do the same thing. So they are making the connections on that. But what they did was literally bring in a mushroom that technically alone exists in the US.

1:25:33But in an altered state causes billions of dollars of damage to wheat, to corn, to maze, and to agricultural industry. And also could wipe out your livestock and causes reproductive damage to human beings. And so this is the lethality in terms of the mindset of people that want to do harm to our country. In this case, I didn't know, this is one of those things where I knew it would garner a lot of attention. But like this thing went massive. Like it's everywhere. And I'm glad it's everywhere. Because for me, it highlights the multiple levels of operation that our adversaries are looking to do harm on us.

1:26:12Thank God we caught this one. But what about the ones we've got to still catch that are still out there? They're not going to stop because this lady's in jail now. Right. And being prosecuted by us. This is just the one you caught. This is the one we caught. So this is proof that this is actually an ongoing thing. It's been an ongoing thing. Just like, you know, why are we allowing our adversaries to buy land around our milk? Just going to ask you that. You know, it's insane to me. It's lunacy. Haven't been the former chief of staff at DOD and having gone to a lot of our bases. I was just like, why is that Chinese CCP establishment right there?

1:26:47Why are the Russians right across the street? Why do they provide towers for cell phones? So what? And that's a trickier issue because that's not like a federal saw. That's a state by state issue. And a lot of states have taken action. I think that Dakota's are leading the charge up there by outlawing it and banning and saying, nope, you can't do this. You can't buy this. Because a lot of these things have third party input, right? Right. And a lot of these things, unfortunately, are just about money. Right. They sell it to cheaper, but then they're spying on everybody. Then they're spying on everybody.

1:27:19But here's the thing. Like what I asked people in, because what I get hit with is, why shouldn't foreigners be able to buy land in America? I'm like, are you able to buy land in downtown Moscow? Can you guys buy a farm in China? No. No. So what's with the disparate treatment? I get that where the United States of America and we want to give everybody a chance and you gave this kid a chance. But that's different than literally inviting our adversaries into our country and saying, well, as long as you build extra dump enough money and see your state, we can look the other way. So what can be done about the land that our adversaries own outside of military bases?

1:28:01Again, it's a state. It's like every state has to take steps legislatively, in my opinion, to either kick them off, stop the contracts, prevent them from coming in, things like that. What we can do at the federal level are things that you've seen, you know, the State Department under Marco Rubio do, revoking visas in certain places, in certain sectors of the economy. Right. And I think rightfully so, because if you stop the personnel from coming in, or kick them out, then who cares who owns it, it's basically a dead side. That's the vulnerability that we have of being such a free society. It is.

1:28:39We allow foreign nationals to come in and go to universities and start and do research and become the head of these different departments and they're constantly reporting back to the CCP or coordinating with them. Yeah. Or Russia. Yeah. And they're not going to stop. That's the thing with these guys. It's just because you take one out, unless you take a whole of government approach, unless you get buying from the American public. And again, this is one of those things that you would think is a national security issue, right? Yeah. But they'll politicize it. They'll weaponize it. The Post will write about it one way and it probably won't even make the headlines in a number of other outlets, because they don't want to talk about it.

1:29:20Has the New York Times written about this, Chad? No idea. I mean, it seems like something that everybody should want to know about. Yeah. If foreign government and adversary government is trying to poison our food supply and human beings and affect our reproductive system, that just seems like that's a bipartisan issue. Yeah. And that's the thing about your show that I agreed that I wanted to do it is because getting out to a population that has stopped listening to mainstream news and reaching out to them and challenging them with information and how we're doing things and saying, look, this is our priority.

1:29:57This is what I'm doing. Right. It is so hugely important because the audience, the influence of that manpower on the electorate is huge, is huge. And if we can reach through on certain, some of these issues, then we're going to win collectively. Like, I can only arrest so many bad guys, and we will. But if we arrest them and people don't know who we're arresting and why we're arresting them and what the threat is, then it almost becomes irrelevant. We're still going to do it. We're not going to stop. But if we can get more and more people talking about these things and saying, look, the national security of our country is of what's most important to me, not who wins the next election.

1:30:38But also, we need to work with our communities to say, who's in our communities? How many registered sex offenders are there? Near our schools? Are they violating federal laws? Why aren't we on these priorities? And we need help. We need American buy -in to really accomplish the mission. I wonder what heavy lifting has to be done to separate national security issues from political issues. And for everybody just to just say, listen, all the other stuff that the Democrats disagree with or the Republicans disagree with, put that aside. We should all be concerned with stopping fentanyl, stopping gang members and cartel members and terrorists from coming into the country.

1:31:19How that becomes political to me is just fucking bananas. It really is crazy because it's just like, if one side supports it, the other side has to be against it. And you raised the reason it's so politicized and the reason it's so sort of in many sectors of government is because of the answer to that question. The leaks from inside of government and then the spin on that information by the media is what's causing the most harm in my opinion to the American public. What kind of leaks? Whether it's classified information or just leaks about fake news. Like people saying, oh, someone so hate each other at the White House.

1:32:09Did you hear about this meeting they had that never occurred? And I was like, I was in that meeting. What are you talking about? What have you heard like that? You know, we're kind of like fake rumors. Oh, so I'll give you an example from actually FBI than the New York Times. So which never laws? No, no, of course not. We're relying on them to solve everything. So we have a regular drumbeat at the FBI where everybody has a, we have a morning meeting with the heads of our divisions. Counter -Intel, counter -SB and IHG, CT, everything. Criminal, cyber, so we can move the machine. And I was like, and I did them for a week and I was like, why do we do these every morning?

1:32:49And the whole place looked at me. And these are career agents and intel folks, like 10, 20, 30 years in the seat. They go bust, we hate those. They make us come offline of our work and focus on briefing you rather than staying on mission and we can come brief you in our own. So I chopped it to two days a week and I cut the time in like less than half. New York Times puts out the story, Cache Patel upends and I'm paraphrasing. The ethos at the FBI, how dare he cut down the morning briefing cycle. And this is a perfect example of these people are coming to me saying this is what they wanted to do for years.

1:33:30And I'm working with them to say, that's a good idea. Why don't we do that? But the Times comes in and kicks us in the face with this leak. That's not even true because they go out and say, I'm not going to force this retired person. It's just one example. It might sound small to you. But now a reader is going to read that. A new kid who's like, Oh, I may be out on the join the FBI and they're going to look at it and say, let's place this a circus, I don't want to go work there. What do you mean they've swept it the morning meeting? That guy should be getting brief six hours a day. And I'm like, no, I want my agents on mission.

1:34:02I don't need them briefing me. I can call them, I can talk to them later. And so it's just stuff like that. Since we were talking about fake news, this is going to come up because it's been going on since we've been recording here. Elon and Trump seem to be in a bit of a spat Joe. We want to check the tweet that Elon just put out a little bit ago. Time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day. Jesus Christ. I'm not participating in any of that conversation. What is Elon? Have a nice day. DGD. So much tickets fall away.

1:34:36They're going back and forth about different things. Listen, he was disappointed in Elon. Yeah, he told him to leave. Jesus Christ, that's a crazy thing to say. How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files? Does he have access to the Epstein files? I don't know how he would, but I'm just staying out of the Trump Elon thing. That's way out. What the fuck are they doing? I know my lane in that evening. I just don't, I mean, I understand he owns Twitter. I think it's bad for your mental health. I think posting things public all day and arguing with people all day is bad for you.

1:35:08Well, you raised a great point. Sorry to cut you off. Good. Half of what we have to respond to is the click army on social media. Right. And 50 % of that plus is bots. 50 % of that plus is bots. But let's take the other 50 % of that. It's just constantly pushing out information to sell t -shirts or subscriptions. Or whatever, listen to my show. And then people are like, hey, FBI, why aren't you looking at this thing in Oklahoma? And I'm like, because it's fake. I don't have time for that. And so to your point on like social media does have a great use in terms of me. So the reason Dan and I don't do a lot of media is because we're the FBI.

1:35:53Like let our work speak for itself. Right. But we have to find the right balance of going to do media and posting on social media. The things we're doing and keeping people, keeping people updated. And so that's the delicate balance we're trying. But what I'm learning is no matter what you do, it doesn't matter. It's going to just completely not make everyone happy. And there's no solve for that in terms of how the FBI operates. But at the same time, the FBI won't be thwarted by it. We're going to keep going. Like, do you know, I mean, I've already told you I've been called the genocidal dictator, which is ironic since I'm the son of a man who fled a genocidal dictatorship in East Africa.

1:36:38And his parents lawfully immigrated to this country and had me and now their kids, the FBI director for a generation of me kid, kind of a pretty freaking cool story. That is a cool story. But I'm like, that's what me and Dan say all the time. You can call us whatever you want. But genocidal dictator, like that, you know, those words don't mean anything anymore. If you call on you that. Well, that's what I mean. You're not a dictator and you're not genocidal. So what are you doing tagging both of those together? What is the proof? And what is the media doing printing it? That's insane. That's an insane thing.

1:37:07But I think they were given a mandate to be the attack dogs. I think they were. And I think during the last administration, they reinforced that. I think. I mean, just look at what happened with the Hunter Biden laptop story. Where 51 former intelligence agents testified that this is. Thank you for bringing that up. Tell me. This episode is brought to you by Visible. I want to let you in on something. Your current wireless carrier does not want you to know about Visible because Visible is the ultimate wireless hack. No confusing plans with surprise fees, no nonsense, just fast speeds, great coverage, without the premium cost.

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1:39:16The guy who used to be in the intelligence community says, oh, we got to bring the Hunter Biden laptop thing into play. Knowing it was bogus. And they come out and they basically say the FBI even though knew that Hunter Biden's laptop was a righteous piece of investigatory material and were examining it. And at the time knew that they were going to work up criminal leads on it, set silent, put that over here. The intelligence community comes in and says, we got to get this information out because the guy who would end up becoming Biden Secretary of State was advising him and saying, hey, we got to squash this Hunter Biden laptop thing.

1:39:56Let's do the Russia gate play. Let's do the Crossfire Hurricane play. So they go to the CIA and they go to then director Gina Haspel, who by the way, there's no coincidence in government. Gina Haspel was chief of station London when Russia gate was launched in London. We can come back to that. So now she's director of CIA and we're on the even election. And there's this thing called a pre -publication process. So like when I had to put my book out as a government service server, what do we call it? It has to go in and everybody's going to read it and they got to chop it and whatever takes forever, even if it's a two -page document.

1:40:36The 51 intel letter was written by these same people, some of whom participated in Russia gate. And the person that has to authorize that is director of the CIA before it goes public. Do you know how long she took to authorize the release of the letter? Knowing the information in the letter was false. Knowing the laptop with Hunter Biden's information on it was true and accurate and being investigated by the federal bureau of investigation for criminal purposes. Eight hours. Eight hours. They released that barrage of disinformation for eight hours. And what do we do? We spent the last four years proving up and we've got more information coming on that too.

1:41:15So proving up how those former secretaries that defense CIA, NSA, deputy directors, the intelligence community all came together to politicize intelligence once again. Because they got caught on Russia gate and don't care. And they wanted president Biden to win so badly they were willing to lie to the American people and they did it again. That is so insane. It's so hard to believe because it's so corrupt and coordinated. The fact that 51 people would be willing to do that. And they've doubled down on it. They keep doubling down on it. How are they doubling down and what way? They've been asked in the year since they've been like, hey, actually, do you remember the time where Hunter Biden got charged in two separate felony federal indictments?

1:41:59Right. In two different districts. And like, now we stand by our like the people that signed the letter said we've stand by guys like Clapper and Brennan and all these guys, Panetta. No, no, so they stand by the idea that that laptop was Russian disinformation. And they know it's not. And these guys who roast the highest ranks in government service won't come off that perch because the media will allow them to be propped up. Wow. And it's to say, look, totally switching gears, but a similar disinformation to January 6, right? I was chief of staff at the DOD on January 6. Days before January 6, I was in the Oval Office with the president, the Secretary of Defense, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on a foreign matter.

1:42:43And on that day, he goes, hey, you know, how's it looking for January 6? Do you guys have everything you need? And he goes, I'm going to authorize up to 10 to 20 ,000 National Guardsmen and women if you guys need them anywhere in the country. The reason that's important is because we can't uniformly deploy military in the United States. That's what the National Guards for. But in order to do that, the president has to one authorize it and two, the mayor or governor, so it's DC, so it's the mayor and the Capitol Police and the Speaker of the House are in charge, have to request the deployment of troops.

1:43:17We went to them days before January 6. We went to Bowser, went to Pelosi. They said no in writing. We were excoriated for it. Your guys are lying. You didn't offer this up. If you had been there, this would have never happened. Well, actually, President Trump preemptively authorized 10 to 20 ,000 National Guard. And what happened? I spent the next three years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees, testifying before Congress, proving up just what I said was the truth. Then the documents came. We finally got them out because I know what we had written. And it showed Bowser in writing, declining National Guard.

1:43:51It showed Pelosi in writing saying no to the Capitol Police. Don't get the National Guard. So they wanted it to be chaos. Well, I'll leave for you on that. But what I'm telling you is they knew, they knew what was true. They knew what was false. And I'm not asking you to give an opinion on the events of January 6. But had 10 ,000 of my guys been there? Do you think it would have gone differently? Yeah, 100%. They stopped it. And they spent years lying. And now we're still lying about that authorization, even though we've put it to bed, like Russiagate, like Hunter Biden's laptop, 51 Intel letter.

1:44:27They keep doing it over and over again. What about agent provocateurs that were involved in January 6? So what we just released to Congress was, I think, we're still digging through it is there was a couple of dozen sources that were involved with January 6. And so we're getting Congress those files and the American people are going to learn the extent of that. We're doubling down on our investigation on the pipe bomber because we think it's a great public importance that someone almost blew up the headquarters for the RNC and DNC and oh, by the way, the vice president of the United States happened to be in the vicinity of that pipe.

1:45:02How did that pipe bomb not detonate? Was it faulty? Did they never activate it? Yeah, it's the latter. And so we keep going back to events like January 6 and I keep trying to say, hey, again, don't trust me. We put out the truth about Russiagate, about 51 Intel letter, about Hunter Biden's laptop, about the National Guard in January 6. These are the guys that are now in charge about the sensitive issues like the pipe bomber and all this information you want. So we're giving you where the ones that are reopening these investigations and doubling down on COVID origins. We think that there was definite foul play, but my opinion is irrelevant.

1:45:43It only matters what I can show to the American people and prove. And that's what we're working on. That's why I don't run out there and say, look, we're going to get this guy. We're 100 % going to get him. We're working our butts off to get him. We're also working our butts off to identify who brought cocaine in the White House. Because when you bring a felony narcotic into the most secure compound in the world, I think the world has a right to know. Yeah, is there footage of that? So we're honest. It's like a known guy who likes Coke, who happened to be at the White House at the same time. Well, again, like, let also I don't want to jump to conclusions because you know, I've done this for a long enough time where even the most obvious suspect, you're like, my shit, it wasn't him.

1:46:17It was her. Right. You know, and so let's do it methodically. We are. It's of great public. If someone brought a dime bag of cocaine or heavy packages, I don't know, or pills, offenses on into the White House at the same time. White House now, in a Trump administration, what do you think the media would say? What a wild motherfucker doing Coke in the White House. Yeah, wild you have to be, I mean, to be doing lines in the bathroom of the White House. I was like dancing the line when I was using the bathroom that I wasn't supposed to use because I wanted to go to the East Wing and they had a nicer setup.

1:46:50And I was like, hi, to my badge. That's as far as I took it. That is, it's just such a crazy thing to do. Like, you have to be completely off the rails where you can't be on Coke for just a few hours while you're hanging out the White House. You're like, no, no, no, I need a little bump. I need a little bump in the White House. It's crazy, man. And I would think that like everybody would get your intestine immediately upon finding that bag. Well, you could have done a lot of things then, but they didn't. Of course, they didn't want it. I mean, there wasn't even a suspect, right? No. For that, there was like, ah, whatever we're done.

1:47:24Wild. Wild, right? Yeah. And, you know, so it's just, you, I mean, you have to, my other mission is to control the things I can control. Was a bathroom the men's room or the women's room or was it like an all -gender bathroom where anybody can go in? You know, I'm not sure. I got to go in. It's a good point. I got to go in and look. I actually got to go back and look. But I think when we do these things and we answer these questions for the American people, we're restoring the trust in the FBI. That's what I can control. That's sorely needed. Because when I go around the country, this is not me saying it or the leadership saying it.

1:48:00The FBI's credibility took a hit because of these actions by these few people in charge. And we're building it back. We've done a lot in a hundred days to get it back. And I think if you wait for the rest of this year, you're going to see some massive, massive actions taken over the summer. And our priorities, and I change it, our website or our pillars. You know, uphold the Constitution, defend the homeland, crush finally crime, and rigorous constitutional congressional oversight so that we restore trust. That's what we want to do. Now, a lot of people got pardons. Like more pardons, I think than anyone ever, right?

1:48:42Yeah. Whatever. Does the pardon cover, like if you find that Fauci lied to Congress, like when Rand Paul was talking to him about gain a function research, clearly he was being deceptive. If someone is that, are they pardoned for that as well? Because it was like this crazy blanket pardon from 2014 for which I didn't even know you could do. So I'm the investigator. So that would be a decision for the Department of Justice. They'll have to make that. I don't know the answer to that. We'll work it up. And we'll say this is what we found. And then legal minds left to come in and chop on does this pardon apply or not?

1:49:20Is that the same sort of thing applied to the 51 intelligence agents that lied about the laptop? I think the same scenario applies to anyone who got the pardon. I can't remember exactly who off the top of my head got it. If they were some of them or none of them or what happens. But that's never happened before in the history of the country. So there's literally no like legal precedent, as we say, to figure out how that goes. But what I can do irrespective of the pardon and how it applies is produce the information and documents. Jeez. What a crazy place to come into. You know, it's a gong show.

1:49:56Is it surprising how dysfunctional it is to you? Well, I think I would change that a little bit. I think I'm thrilled at how functional most of the FBI is. I'm shocked at the levels of depravity and even me that few in leadership would do to alter that and then go out to the public and lie about it. Like you got James call me running around and he can yell at me all he wants and any me caved can too. This is another perfect example right. These two guys used to run the bureau. And we had a guy in Denver without a shirt off running around throwing 16 mile tough cocktails on human beings shouting free Palestine.

1:50:41I got that information because I'm the director of the FBI and I put out a statement because the American people need to know. We are investigating this matter as an act of terrorism. CNN, New York Times come in and crush us. These guys don't know what they're doing, how dare they label it as such. The investigation is still ongoing. And I said, yes, I'm investigating the matter in which a man who was from overseas in Egypt through Molotov cocktails and American citizens that a peaceful rally and screamed free Palestine. That's what you want your FBI doing, which you don't want your FBI doing is having New Orleans and Super Bowl.

1:51:19And having another known terrorist come in there and run people over and kill them and then have the FBI go to the podium and say this is not an act of terrorism. That is the politicization of the FBI. That's what we've changed. And I think the American people are seeing it and I think our results are speaking to it. But that doesn't even make sense that the New York Times would criticize that and criticize the description of it as an act of terrorism when it by definition is an act of terrorism. But the action itself, you're throwing Molotov cocktails and human beings that are at a political peaceful rally.

1:51:53That's terrorism, isn't it? I mean, what is terrorism? That's not terrorism. And what I can say, remember, the charging is for the Department of Justice, the partners. What I can say is what I'm investigating it as. And that's what I'm investigating it as because the facts to that point in time quickly relate to me by our people in the field, the pros said, hey, this is what we got. This is what happened. Everyone's talking about it. Let's report out to the American people what we can responsibly. And that was a responsible way of doing it. But that's what I'm saying. These people that used to run the FBI are coming in there and they would have made the same decisions.

1:52:26It's just the fact that we're making them and they got fired because they got caught conspiring against the United States of America and weaponizing the FBI and CNN's given them a platform. They keep crippling this country by putting out these stupid statements or not stupid. These intentionally fall statements to attack us. And again, you can hit me in Bungie and all you want. We don't care. We're winning. But I believe we're winning this fight. We're winning it because the American people are like, hey, that wasn't active terrorism. I hope you get the bad guys. And I don't know if you just saw, but we also remember the fertility clinic that was bombed, bombed in Southern California.

1:53:05We just busted the co -conspirator in Poland and brought him back. Last night. And now he's getting charged because publicly what we can say is he procured like something like 45 pounds of ammonium nitrate. So what we're doing is investigating acts of terrorism as acts of terrorism. And we're utilizing our authorities overseas under that to give the American people justice. The guy didn't act alone. What about the shooter, the savage shooter in Washington, D .C. who comes in and murders two people for the Israeli embassy in cold blood, like just literally, what is it? 21, I don't know how many shots, right?

1:53:49Yelling something free, guys, or whatever. We investigated that as an act of terrorism because that's what it is. And that's what the American people deserve to hear. I'm not saying they don't have a presumption in this instance. I'm not saying that they're going to be convicted of trial. But I'm telling you as the director of the FBI what I'm doing as a number one cop in this country and who's in charge of investigations. That's my call to make and I'll make it every time. I just don't understand how the media, particularly the thing in Colorado, how they could print that this is not an act of terrorism and not to manage all of whatever credibility they have left.

1:54:26I just don't understand why they would even be willing to do that. I think it all goes back to the same derangement syndrome that people have. They're hatred for certain individuals and people who dare to work in those administrations is so great that they don't care about the truth. They care about the platform and they'll go on and they'll be given a platform on TV or print media or on other shows. And there's still a significant portion of the American populist that is willing to give them their ear. That's what I'm trying to change. We're never going to get everybody but if we can get 10 % of them, I think it's a home run.

1:55:14We get 20 % we're totally willing all day long but it's going to take time. Yeah, I mean I know that people are super, everybody wants ozemic today, right? They just want it. You know they want a quick fix and when you're dealing with four years of whatever the hell was going on and 9 million people being released into this country and all the stuff that comes with it, it just would stand a reason, it would take a long time to unravel all that or to fix all the problems that were created. That is man, I hope you clip that and play that over and over again. That's what I've been trying to explain to people.

1:55:52I'm like we're going to fix as much as we can but you guys want answers yesterday for problems that have been metastasizing for decades. Also you want to have all the information in place when you finally do go public with everything where you can't miss things. Not cross a t dot an i and someone can get off. That and we also, too prong that is just as equally as important as the following. We want to fix the institution so it doesn't happen again. That's the bigger win. Catching the bad guys is the everyday job we're going to do it. Calling out the people who corrupted the place in the past is hugely important.

1:56:30But leaving the American people, an FBI, a DOD, a CIA, a functional, national security apparatus is my ultimate goal. So the apparatus that was in place before that was so riddled with corruption. What do you think happened between Trump's between when he was in for the first term and the four years? Like how did it get so bad? In the win, win, win left? Yeah, when he left in the last four years. I mean, I'm assuming there was always corruption. But how did it get so bad in this past four years? Because of the priorities. They completely shifted the priorities. But how does that encourage corruption amongst the top officials?

1:57:19Because the priorities themselves were corrupt. Focusing on DEI and climate change is a political pot shot to weaponize the Department of Defense and the intelligence community and the law enforcement community. To say we're going to promote you based on your background and beliefs rather than your ability to get through the pipeline. You know, another thing we're doing is we're changing the PFT, the physical fitness test at the Federal Bureau of Investigation for New Agents, and for current agents. Because it's wholly insufficient. I'm not asking you to be a special forces operator. But I am asking you to be able to take down a dude running away from you in a hundred yards sprint.

1:57:57We're maybe twice your size and detain him and safeguard the American public. And so when you don't focus on those things for years, years, and you focus on promoting people based on, I'm not here because of the color of my skin, but when you do that, this is what happens. And then when the media celebrates these victories, people are like, oh yeah, I'm going to subscribe to that because I hate the other side so much. I'm just going to go along. I don't, I honestly don't believe what most of the people are putting out there in the media that they actually believe it. I think they're, go home at night and they're like, yep, we know this is wrong, but we've made our bet and we are going to sleep in it every single night and we are not going to retract.

1:58:42That is such an insane decision. It's such an insane decision. And again, it diminishes the credibility of an already damaged organization. I mean, people now people know about Russia gate, they know about the hundred bottom laptop story, they know about the steel dossier, they know about all this shit that happened. Like their faith in media, over especially after the pandemic, their faith in media has been deteriorated so badly. But I can't imagine they wouldn't just say for self preservation reasons, shift course. But they have been, the problem is they have been able to persevere in their space.

1:59:20And they're not looking to persevere anything past that. I mean, look at the, from a monetary standpoint, most of the media has been losing money for years. Right. You know, but they keep reporting it. They don't care. Most of these editors and chiefs that these big, wig operations get blown out the door in a year or two. New people coming in by it, they keep losing money. Most of these shows on mainstream media, the TV shows at night, their hosts could fire every other minute because they're rating suck. But the institutions themselves don't care to change. They don't go bring in a Joe Rogan.

1:59:55That would probably be what it takes in my opinion to fix something like that. Do you imagine? I think you should do it. Get the fuck out of here. They would torture me. It would be horrible. Every news story. I mean, you see that they're willing to lie in the news. You see they're willing to push narratives that just are not true. It's just so hard to imagine how you can sustain the American people's trust. And if you don't sustain the American people's trust, you're going to keep losing money. I just, I can't imagine, I know CNN made it of somewhat of a concerted effort to try to be objective for a while.

2:00:33They brought on Scott Jennings. They've changed a bunch of things in that regard. But it's still like some of the panel talks they have. We just like, what fucking plan are you guys even living on? Right. And the problems were facing. He does a good job of highlighting. He's like, hey man, these pro -Hamas positions didn't happen overnight. They happened because we let in all these people from all over the world. And they came in and they started attending our universities and they started getting together. And they started seeing in the media that that was the quote -unquote popular thing to do.

2:01:06And then that ethos spread. And now look what we have. We have chaos on college campuses. We've got lone wolf attackers. We've got terrorists. We've got openings for our narco traffickers. We haven't even touched upon what our adversaries are doing to our cyber infrastructure. I mean, Salt Typhoon is a massive telecommunications breach engineered by the CCP. It's public. It's not classified. And they literally got into our hour, United States of America's telecommunications providers. Broken.

2:01:41And we are playing catch up. These are the priorities we're focused on. We have solutions for them. They take time. They're not sexy. No one wants to talk about upgrading the nuclear arsenal of the triad. It's not the sexy thing to talk about, but that's what we need to do. We know it wants to talk about hardening our infrastructure and fixing our grid switch system across the country. You take out one electrical grid infrastructure plant and you take out a large chunk of this country. But when you don't prioritize those things for years in these last however many years, then our adversaries get hip to it.

2:02:17And they say, hey, there's a vulnerability. Let's double down. And what our adversaries are doing, we haven't even talked about the war and the mass and all that stuff. We don't have to. But they're teaming up. They're saying, look, we really don't like each other, but we don't like America more. So why don't we partner up? Why don't we use you, the drug trafficking organizations in Mexico for human smuggling? Not just drugs. Why don't we use you, Russia, Iran, the CCP get together. We'll sell ammunition to you because you can't get them from anywhere else in the world. You don't have access to banks.

2:02:50You know, the biggest threat we have from a kind of terrorism standpoint is Iran. And that's why the president is trying to achieve a peaceful resolution with them. And this war that Hamas started in October in Israel and Gaza. And nothing would be a better solution than a peaceful one to them because we talked about hostages before. And what if they just report out two more American Israeli citizens' bodies were uncovered yesterday or the day before? The cost of these wars, people don't see and feel right away. And unless you give them in your face 24, 7 coverage of it, their focus is going to be on what CNN is talking about and how they're talking about it.

2:03:36Yeah. And that's part of the shift. And that's like one of the large reasons I was like, we have to come on this show. We have to at least swing at it. I don't know how many people, maybe no one will watch it, maybe some people will watch it. Oh, a lot of people are going to watch this. But that's not, that's like that's the point for me. We just have to try to reach different audiences. We have to have to have to have to try. Yeah, well, I don't think people have heard it from your perspective before like this, especially over long form. I know you have a heart out at three o 'clock. Yeah, sorry.

2:04:10It's three o 'clock now. So thank you. Thanks for being here. Really appreciate it. And I appreciate you illuminating a lot of these things that I think are very confusing to a lot of people. And I think you've answered a lot of questions just like how long time takes and what the process is like. But I appreciate everything you're doing. It means a lot to me. I can't believe that was two hours. That's awesome. Hopefully I can come back. But look, absolutely, please do. Just the just a parting message. If I may, I appreciate the show and what you've done. And I love seeing it. UFC fights. I'll see it one soon.

2:04:44But we, I just want to say this for the folks at the FBI. And I probably should answer when you first asked me. The thing I'm most proud of is most all of them. They're crushing it. They're crushing it. And they've been wanting to do it for so long that this part, this job is easy. My job's easy. What they're doing is hard. Me moving people around the country, taking them from their families, uprooting them. And everybody's like, that's the mission. That's what we're here to do. And I don't want people to take away, oh, okay, he's bought and sold by everybody that corrupted the place. If you look at the show and you look at it in this entirety and don't take clips from it, you'll see what we're about.

2:05:26And putting the mission first for you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Yeah, bye everybody.

2:05:46What they're doing is hard. Me moving people around the country, taking them from their families, uprooting them. And everybody's like, that's the mission. That's what we're here to do. And I don't want people to take away, oh, okay, he's bought and sold by everybody that corrupted the place. If you look at the show and you look at it in this entirety and don't take clips from it, you'll see what we're about. And putting the mission first for you. Thank you very much. Appreciate you. Yeah, bye everybody. Thank you.