#2342 - Jim Norton

21:24Even when people are being nice, I can't get away from how embarrassed I am. Like, it's almost like with people see you doing something, you're like, oh, Jimmy's trying. Look at little Jimmy's trying. And I was typing back and everything, but it was, it's so anti what feels good for me to do. Even when people are being nice, I find it horrifying and humiliating. I don't know where that comes from, but I kind of wish I didn't have it. This episode is brought to you by Visible. Now you know, I tend to go down a lot of rabbit holes. I want to know everything about everything. And if you're like that, you need wireless that can keep up.

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22:39For the best features, get the new Visible Plus Pro plan for $45 a month. Terms apply, seevisible .com for plan features and network management details. Well, I think everybody hates watching themselves. First of all, because when I watch a comic, I wanna watch a comic doing material either that I know and I wanna see again. Like if I'm watching Shane and he's doing his bit on the Navy Seals, I wanna see it again. Or I just wanna see it, I've never seen it develop. I wanna see the thing. But when you're doing it, you're aware of everything. You're aware of all the edits you've made. You're aware of all the different ways you've done it.

23:20You're aware of when you're trying to sell it a little too much and you're not in the moment. You know, there's all the grossness that you see that other people aren't gonna see. We're like, ew. It's fucking hate watching myself. Dude, it was so hard. It was so hard not to just attack myself in the chat. Like all I wanted to do was watch it and go, oh, boom. Boom. Nice blinking 56 year old. But I didn't do it. I'm like, don't be a fucking, I think it was Jay Okerson was doing something. He did this special and he shot at its gangfest one year. And I think Lewis took him out and they were looking at the stage before and it was one of those guys.

23:58Like, you know, Jay is just like, oh, he's a fucking fucking, I think Lewis goes, you know, sometimes I know we're like that but you just gotta enjoy it. Like once and I thought of that. I'm like, sometimes just enjoy things are going okay. Yeah. You're happy with what you did. I love the special. I love the material. Don't put yourself in a position where you're like, you fucking suck. Like it doesn't have to be that way. Just put it out there and walk away from it. Leave it alone, let people decide what they decide. And if you don't like it, you just work on the next one and make sure that you don't make the same mistakes to us.

24:30Yeah, I can do. But I spend a lot of time, like I wouldn't, I don't think I've ever loved anything as I put it out. This I like more, but the older you get, the better you get. So it's like a little easier now than it was. Yeah. The first tonight show I did was 2004. And I was out in LA and I, there was my buddy, Joey Silvara, who worked for Evil Angel and would film a lot of the greatest porn. Joey was a fucking, you'd recognize him if you saw him. He was in old movies. So I went to his house to watch my first tonight show with another guy, this other guy, Brandon Iron. And I went into the basement while they watched it.

25:02I couldn't watch it in front of other people. Oh, that's hilarious. It was just, and it's not to be, because I think I'm an art, it's just humiliating. It's fucking, it's embarrassing. Yeah. I feel like I'm like, you're gonna laugh? Like I just, I don't want people to feel pressure to laugh because I'm around. It's weird. It's weird watching yourself. Some guys can do it though. Yeah, there's psychos. They are fucking psychopaths. They're probably not healthy. Oh my God. Dude, the fuck, you know what mental illness you need to sit someone down next to you when you're a special plane? How about people that want you to watch their thing and they want to sit there with you?

25:35Like, hey, watch this. And you're like, I don't, I don't know. It puts you in a weird, if I do an acting role, I don't love acting, which is great, because nobody loves when I do it. It works out nicely. But if I do something I like, I have to see it first, and I have to watch it and go, okay, I'm not embarrassed by this. I can go and watch it in a premiere. Like, you know what I mean? I have to see it first. So, no, if I'm gonna feel humiliated, the Irishman I didn't see for us, obviously, Scroça is not gonna send me a fucking cut. And I didn't know I made it until, like, literally the night before.

26:07But that was different, because I'm like, I don't care how whatever. It was just, it was a stand -up performance. Right, right, right. A little bit easier than acting. It's humiliating. Yeah, it's gross. I don't like any of it. I went, I've been in a couple movies I've refused to go to the red carpet. I sneak in through the back. I'm like, they were like, I want you to walk to red carpet. I'm like, nope. Is it because you don't, like, because everyone would talk to you, I'm afraid no one's gonna talk to me on the red carpet. Do you know how embarrassing it is when you hear that person who walks you through in the front and like, you're standing there ready for your moment and you hear they're going, oh, Jim Norton.

26:41And then you hear a second and then she goes, Jim Norton is a comedian. And I was like, oh, fuck, they have no idea who I am. It's just humiliating. So I don't like doing it, man. But I just don't like the attention. I don't like standing there or they take pictures, just standing there, just looking around. Look at me, Joe. Look at me. Over here, over here. Some people love it. Actresses, whoa, love it. They pose, they give you their good side. Yeah, yeah. Give you a little practice in the mirror. But I almost understand it. I have more tolerance for actors who love it because even though they're big of attention idiots as we are, they don't get the constant feedback.

27:21Like for them, it's their night of feedback. Right. Whereas with us, we're like, I mean, I've been on a run for like four nights. Before I came here, actually at the cell, I had four like shit nights in a row. Just, all the material I'm doing now is new. So it's like, I'm trying this. And you know, it just feels like you're Frankensteinian. It's not there yet. But I know I'm gonna have another night and another night. And that comes and goes quickly. But actors, they have like one night to stand there and smile and then they just get attacked in the fucking, in the comments or in the reviews. So I'm a little more tolerant of them than comedians who love that.

27:55It's like how much fucking attention do you need, dude? Yeah, yeah. You constantly get feedback. Yeah, you should be shying away from feedback. Too much feedback is bad for you. I really believe that. 100%. And I stopped reading Twitter comments. Occasionally I'll do it now. And it wasn't just to say I wasn't reading them. It was because even positive feedback, I call them a uniti fuck. How much, how much, you know, can we tap on the shoulder do you need? How many like, good job, Jim? Or you suck, like, how much interaction from people do you need? It's not normal, it's not healthy. I stopped reading almost everything, even stuff that's not me.

28:31And I stopped a couple of weeks ago. I just stopped going on social media. I will occasionally, if someone sends me something funny, I'll watch it. But then I get off my phone right away. I just, and I think my new phone number that I'm gonna get, I'm not gonna have any social media. I'm just gonna keep my old phone number and only use that for social media. I just don't think it's good for you. It's not. Although there's times like my algorithm, I'm obsessed with, I think we talk about just Japanese hornets and a lot of MMA. My algorithm is healthier now than it would be. There's still a few things that will pop up that show what I've been looking at.

29:04If my wife is next, she'll see what I'm looking at. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm just, you know, you know how it is. You go down to rabbit hole, you probably shouldn't go down. But it's not as unhealthy as it would have been at one point. A lot of it is just MMA stuff and animals and nice shit. Yeah, I get a lot of that. A lot of us people get knocked out. You like the knocked out? I like watching Jiu Jitsu tips. Cause then I'll bring them in and ask the guy to show me, like how do you, is it possible to do this and he'll kind of show me and I'll just forget it, but it's fun. Yeah, I've got a lot of that too.

29:32But it's just, I just think it's a giant waste of time. And it's also your brain needs time to just think and you need time to just be in your own head and think about your own thoughts and trying to formulate them properly. Really like get it under, like why do I think this way? What is it about this that I've decided is correct? Right. And roll it around. And when you're constantly looking at other people's thoughts, I just don't think it gives you much time for that. That's exactly it. Why do I think what I think? Like, the Hitchens did a great speech. It was in Toronto about free speech. And one of the things he was talking about is when somebody says something that you don't agree with.

30:11I think the example he gave was Holocaust and I. He goes, you have to protect that person's speech because if nothing else, it makes you examine, okay, well, how do I know what I know? How do I know other than someone told me? You have to kind of examine how you come to your own conclusions. And I do that a lot like in the shower. I'll just kind of stand there. It's really like we all have a weird showering method. I just kind of stand there with my hands like this. It's bizarre. It's a womb like. And I just stand there and I think or I go through arguments or I go through conversations or debates.

30:42And that's the one time I really get to think during the day where I don't let anything else interfere. But being off social media is probably a lot healthier. Just again, it's other people's thoughts. I don't care what people think. I don't know why I read it. Well, I care what people think, but I don't care enough to have that intervene and invade my thoughts all day long. I mean, I'm fascinated by people, but I like to talk to them for real for real like this. This is like, you know, because I think that's also having a podcast and having what I think is the best way to communicate with people and to be able to be so lucky to be able to do it all the time.

31:19I think I get plenty of other people's input. Right. And you get the real opinions and you get to sense up in the room with a person. Again, it's harder to dislike or to caricature somebody when you've met them and when you've actually sat with them. It's like, no, I know this person. I kind of felt their energy and it's like, they're just a regular person. It's easy when you look at somebody and they hate their guts. And I've bashed a few people. It was always so embarrassing. We would do jocktober. And, you know, I would hate never went into other people's studios, but I would. And I'd be on the road and it was the fucking, I wasn't bossing with Kenny one time.

31:53He's like, they're having you in, but you jocktobered them and I was like, oh, oh. Oh. Oh. So I went in and, you know, you just go there like, yeah, you really, and I'm like, yeah, man, it was just something we do, but you have, you face it and you realize, you had a nice guys. It was just, yeah, it's a dumb radio show. I had fun and I'd actually become friendly with a couple of guys who we used to attack, but you only get that through meeting somebody and actually talking to the more one. The worst is when you meet someone and you have a conversation with them and you're cool. You think, oh, we're good.

32:24And then they'll go and talk shit about you somewhere else and completely mischaracterize you. Have you had that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've had that. Yeah, that's embarrassing. It's sad. It feels bad. It, well, it's just like, okay, well, I'll never talk to you again because I know that you do this now. It's crazy. Yeah. But it's also, it's like, why are you doing that? Generally, it's when I had a conversation with them and it didn't go well for them. Right. So then they just harbor that thing and then they just fucking stew it in their head and then they just mischaracterize you and try to twist you around because they're trying to win this argument they already lost.

32:58Yes. It's like, you know, when you get an argument, you didn't have anything to say and then you're in the shower, you're like, oh, I should have said this. I should have said that. They're just doing that and they're just going and doing that on another podcast. Yes, relitigating. Yeah. What the jury has already come in like, yes. And it's human instinct to do, I also think sometimes people do it and they don't think you're gonna see it. Like, especially when you're, you know, you've such a high level of like recognition that if somebody, they're probably, like, I'll never see this and I can just, and then you see it and they're probably like, oh, yeah.

33:29I shouldn't have said that. But I've read things that hurt my feelings. I'm like, why would you say that? Like, yeah, I was nice to you. I don't know. It's weird. It's like, you know, humans are so strange. We're so strange in our weird little quirks and the way we communicate with each other and what is truth? What's real? Who are you? You know, who are you? You're different every day. Yeah. You're different depending on how your day went. You know, your reaction to something is, I remember one time this guy wasn't paying attention. Traffic was stopped and he rarely ended me. And he didn't have a license.

34:00He was from Mexico, but I had been doing yoga like every day. And I was like, you okay? And he's like, yeah, I'm okay. I'm like, all right, man. And I go, why don't you have a license? He's like, we can't get a license. I go, so why are you driving? He's like, I gotta work. I'm gonna do all right. I get it. I wasn't mad at him. But it was because I was doing yoga like every day. We were doing this hot yoga challenge, Ari and Tom and Bert and I. I remember that. We were doing it like, I was doing yoga like every day. So I was so calm. I was like, okay, well, take care of yourself. I'm gonna get out of here.

34:32Cause his car was fucked. My car was fucked, but it was drivable. Yeah. It was a Porsche. It was a really nice car. And he had like this fucking shitty Honda. But the way he broke, like when you break your front end dives down. So he kinda got under my car and lifted my car up a little bit and caved in my back bumper a little bit. But they just replaced the bar and the engine wasn't fucked. And my exhaust was dented a little bit. His car was fucked. He couldn't drive. So he got to be there when the cops came. And then, you know, he couldn't drive away. Right. And I was like, I don't know what to tell.

35:06I'm gonna get out of here. Oh, you just laughed. Yeah. I was like, he doesn't have any money. Like, I'm gonna pay for this. Yes. And I'm like, this is gonna hurt me. I have the money to fix it. So all right, take care, man. Glad you okay. Being zanned like that. Like, cause it reminds me of, I was leaving the link at the Holland tunnel with Karen Fiham. We were doing a gig in Jersey. That was bumper to bumper. And I came, you know, it's like, that merge where you think you're never gonna get out of it. And a guy stopped and he goes, you hit my car. And I'm like, I know I didn't hit his car. But he made us, it was bumper to bumper.

35:37I'm like, let's just talk on the other side of the tunnel. Like, let's get out of this fuck, cause I was gonna be late for the gig. And he goes, no, we're gonna pull over and wait for the police. So I'm like, oh, this piece of shit is trying to shake me down. Yeah. So we wound up one of those awful traffic women was there. You know, the people, they just, they work for the city and they dress like cops, but they're not cops. But if you just saw one of them, it's like a big deal. So we pulled over and I said, it's okay if we just trade licenses. And she went, yeah, just trade licenses, which I think kind of shamed him into, like letting us move on.

36:07Otherwise, he was gonna have me fucking held up there or we're paying him on that. So you didn't hit his car at all. Karen said I didn't, it was a merge. And if I did, it was a one mile an hour bump, but there was no mark on his car. At all, I think the whole thing was a scam. Could we trade licenses? And I never heard from the guys. You're seeing that thing where people get in front of people's cars and slam on the brakes. It's, I've seen it. Oh. And I mean, it's terrible. And the best of it, you have a dash cam. Oh, yeah. You see them, they recognize the dash cam and then they just scurry back into their cars.

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38:10And she's on the phone, oh my God, these people just backed up into me and then they got out of the car and they're like, what did you do? What did you do? And then they saw the dash cam like, oh fuck. Yeah, I've seen that, I've got to arrest him. That's what I'm referring to. Where they, they scurry back into the car and take off. Yep, yep. When I saw, like I'm so cynical, like people in Philly, you gotta let people in Philly, like if a bus hits something, there's like locals that will just run up and just lay next to the bus like they were in the fucking accident, which is, I get it, you know what I mean?

38:37But they forget that there's cameras everywhere and they could just see you walking up. But this India, air India plane crash, I would, my first thought was that this guy, they said survived. I'm like, oh, he's bullshitting, he didn't, he's faking it. Oh, he survived. But he did survive, yeah, cause he said, His brother was on the plane or something. 11 a, see you to 11 a. And by the way, to all the people who are gonna now look for 11 a stop. Yes, stop. If anything else, that's the last that you should do. Usually it's the back where you're best off. Yeah, I wonder if the plane broke open and he just got, there's a woman who was, I think there's a teenage who went and happened to us called the woman who, the girl who fell from the sky.

39:12And she had apparently, they were like two miles up and hurt the plane blew up whatever and it came apart and she fell two miles, somehow survived. The soul survived. Born, right? Didn't she go through the roof of a barn? No, she fell into the, what do they call the, the fucking, the, the, the, the brain forest. Oh, the Amazon. The Amazon. She fell into the Amazon, it was gone for 10 days. Whoa. Apparently, again, unless I was bullshitting, they said she found an old boat with gas and she had to pour that one of her wounds to kill the maggots. Whoa. And then she finally did get out and get rescued.

39:45And, uh, look at this. Julianna, 17 year old girl miraculously survived. She was about 10 ,000 feet from a plane then surviving 11 days. Isn't 10 ,000 feet, isn't that two miles? No, what's a mile? Yeah, it's about two miles. Two miles? Yeah. Jesus Christ. You imagine falling two miles from a plane. She survived 11 days alone. The Peruvian Amazon rainforest. After the plane, she was on, she was struck by lightning. Jesus, I didn't read that part. The plane was struck by lightning and disintegrated in the air. Still strapped to her seat, fell from the sky and survived. Holy shit. What did she hit though?

40:18Did she hit like a mountain in slightly? How do you, the impact? I don't know how you survived that impact. Oh my God. She had a broken collarbone, a torn knee ligament. That's it. After the crash, she spent 11 days alone in the jungle before being rescued. She found a lumberjack camp. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. Wow, she became a suspected scientist, specializing mammology and focusing on bats. Wouldn't it be fun if she was the lady who released COVID? Because her memories don't go any more after the plane crash. Yeah, drink this. She specialized on bats and she got a job in Wuhan. She had no idea.

40:56She had no idea. She was like, be free. Bits some guy selling fish on the corner. He went and fucks my money. Oh. But there was another one too. There was a flight attendant. And again, who I think was trapped, the front of the plane fell. And I think that she was almost from 30 ,000 feet. And if I remember correctly, it hit a mountain and slid. It was almost like she hit it on the right angle and slid. Oh, there it is. Yeah, I'll use my highest fall without a parachute to history. 33 ,000 foot plunge after a plane explosion, 72. She was the only survivor, crashed into the mountains of Czechoslovakia after a suspected bomb detonated.

41:33Cheese. I heard about the way you felt her parachute didn't open and she landed on a pile of ants. Fire ants and the fire ants kept her alive. Right, right. She fought her body. Yeah, somehow or no, the fire ants, the shock of the sting of fire ants kept her alive. Why did they slow her heart down or something or stop it from? No. What? The odds of falling into a fire ant pile? It's usually a bad thing to land an amount of fire ants at 80 miles an hour, but not if you're Joan Murphy. Oh, Joan Murray. 14 ,000 feet right into a fucking pile. 50 % chance of surviving a fall of 48 feet, which is a four -story building.

42:11Mortality rate rushes all the way up to 90. When you fall 84 feet, the distance of a seven -story building. So if you're falling from a whopping 14 ,500 feet, just over two and a half miles, you safely bet you're almost definitely not going to get out alive. One woman did. So she fell, a backup parachute opened at 700 feet, quickly deflated. She continued to plummet towards the ground at 80 miles an hour. She survived. There it goes. She survived. Thanks to the fact that she landed directly on a mound of fire ants. Doctors believe the intense shock being stung over 200 times by the ants released a surge of adrenaline that kept her heart beating.

42:53Whoa. By the way, does that prove to you how little I know about the human body? My instinct said, oh, your heart slows down. Like I thought like, oh, maybe it would slow your heart down when they beat you, and it does just the opposite. I thought like maybe it slowed your beat down like being frozen. I bet that's just a wild guess as to why I kept her alive, because if she was putty, there's no way it would have kept her alive. Yeah, maybe it stopped her heart from stall. Maybe they got to her right after two. Yeah, who knows? You watch that guy who fucking lets things bite him in the woods, coyote something.

43:23Yeah, coyote person. He's a psychopath, but his stuff is very entertaining. But I think he's the bullet ant. The bullet ant or the Japanese hornet was the worst. The bullet ant's supposed to be the worst. The bullet ant's supposed to be like 24 hours of intense pain. Yeah, my friend Steve got bit by one of those. On purpose or no? No, he was in the Amazon. He got bit on his foot. And it wasn't as bad as he said. It was said for hours, it was just impossible. The pain was just impossible. Doesn't that, it's slowly dissipated until like kind of manageable? Is that the one what they put in the gloves?

43:56You see that one, the tribe where they do that and their hands are like blackened by bite. Did Steve go do that? Yeah. Yeah, he did that. Yeah, he put the gloves on. How long did he last? Well, once you get bit, it's a 24 hour experience. Yeah, I'm very squeamish. Insects, it's funny. I've never gotten over this insect. I think I saw a kid, there was a brother in sister when I was a kid. We were all the same age. I think she was a year older than me and him were. And they were such a bizarre little friendship because they used to pee their pants. And I would ask them to sit on my face with their pants.

44:28It was a really bizarre experience. Yeah, I know, it was a very lovely childhood and good old Edison. Good old Edison New Jersey. But I saw him get stung by yellow jackets. That's the worst thing. Execution or wasp. Oh. But coyote Peterson said it was worse than a bullet ant. Oh my god. Watching a guy run with bees on his arms and screaming. I think that's scarred me for the rest of my life with insect. We used to break up bees nest. And I'll never forget the sight of this kid running with just three yellow jackets on his arm. And that stuck with me for, I guess, 49 years now, 50 years. It bothers me.

45:05I just can't. They weird insects have a very weird effect on people. Like to be so skewed out by something. It's like rats, instead of like small bunnies on Baudi, but rats do. Maybe it's in the DNA or something where it's supposed to bother you. I think so for sure. I think that's what a videophobia and a rac defobia comes from. You know, I bet someone in your DNA, someone down the line was either killed by a spider or like really badly hurt by a spider. And it's just in your DNA to be absolutely terrified when you see a spider. What's a videophobia of snakes? Oh, some people just, they have it so bad.

45:40Like they see snakes and they just fucking start panic and they have a panic attack and they just can't handle it. Where other people, like I'm scared of snakes for sure, but I can look at them. You know, they don't freak me out. Can you hold them? Yeah, yeah. I can hold them, but you know, obviously I don't want to be around them. They're fucking serpents. They're literally in the Bible. Yeah. Yeah, the Bible does frown. The snake on a bed wrap in the fucking Bible. Look at Satan. Satan comes in the form of a certain. A certain? Yeah. I can hold one if I know it's not going to, again, I have a healthy fear.

46:11Like if it's like, if it's, if I know it's a boa constrictor, let that guy in the Grand Philips, who walks around the giant yellow one, which kind of creeps because if it was to really attack someone, I mean, I guess you'd have to kill it. There's nothing you can do. Yeah. It's a large boa constrictor. He is not much you can do once it's around your neck. You need help. You know, they're very strong. I mean, they crushed deer and swallow them whole. They do. Yeah. I mean, you gotta, you gotta be a real special kind of fucking idiot to have one of those things as a pet. Because you just have a monster as a pet.

46:44And as long as you feed that monster, but if you leave a baby in a room with a python, you come back a half an hour later, you're gonna have a fat python. No baby. Absolutely. And a nice, quiet night sleep. They don't give a fuck. They're just like, that's what they're there for. Nature has designed them to kill everything they can. I can't, any letterman has a lot of snakes. Like she has them as pets and her fiance has, they have a ball tracks, a room full of fucking snakes. And I don't get it. I'm like, they're not warm. Yeah. They don't have any recognition of you. They're interesting, I guess.

47:15I guess, but we have a puppy and I've never owned a dog before. And it's like, it's nice to have, I don't like taking care of anything. I fucking, I don't have that instinct in me. I just don't like it. But this dog kind of, I get why people like having a dog. Like I get, oh, I love dogs. If my wife only lets me have one, I have one dog. But if it was up to me, at one point in time, I had five dogs. You did? Yeah. Does he shit in the house? No. Mine does a lot. I mean, he does if he eats things that are bad. He gets diarrhea and he gets diarrhea. At least a couple of times a year. Oh, he does.

47:47Yeah, he's a dumbass. He's a golden retriever. He's not that smart. Like he ate a turtle recently and he got horrible diarrhea. Shit all over the place. He got little pieces of shell stuck in his stomach. He had to go to the hospital. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. It was a nightmare. And he also ate gravel at 1 .85 pounds of gravel. Because someone accidentally dropped some chicken food on the gravel and he just assumed that the gravel was food. So he ate all the gravel. It is crazy. I have nothing registers halfway through the gravel pile. He's just a dumbass. And he's like chicken. He's a dumbass.

48:19But I fucking love dogs, man. I wish I could have. I can't go to a pound. I can't go. Can you bring my home? I'll bring my home. I'll just take them all. If I had a giant piece of land, I would probably just have all every dog I could ever get. We went to North Shore Animal Rescue and actually Beth Stern helped me. I don't know her well. I met her through Whitney. And I met her. But she's huge there and has great connections and helped us get a very nice little, what is it, a fucking Yorkie? We're so stupid. We thought it was a cavapoo. I didn't want to fucking dog poo. What's a cavapoo? It's like one of those things where it's like a bread dog.

48:59It's a cavalier and a poodle I think. Oh good. It's hypoallergenic. I can't have doggies. Right. Oh look at that. I mean, come on. Oh. Is that not phenomenal? Come on. Come on. Look at the little bow. That used to be a wolf. That's how fucking creepy people are. They turned a wolf into that thing. That little adorable, no shedding thing. Look at that little face. Oh. He's very cute. But that's what we thought we were getting. I didn't know. Because Yorkie looks a lot like that when it's young. It was like this big when we took it home. But yeah, it's I love it. My dog photographed like shit though.

49:32I never put up pictures of my dog. He's this sweetheart, but it looks like a fucking wig and a hamper. Just sucks. I can't humiliate him. Ugly fucking dog having in pictures. But in person, he's great. I just I never post pictures. It's just it's not there on him. Nothing's going to help. He's just kind of sitting there. It looks like he's fucking homeless. Like some homeless guys dog. But I do I love having him. But the shitting in the house is very difficult. I think that's my first got him. We see he looks a little like a cavapoo. That's adorable dog. Then he was. But as he's gotten older and his hair's gotten longer.

50:05You got shitty looking? In person, no. But he photographs fucking terrible. Let me see a picture. Let me see a bad picture of your dog. Let me see if I have. I put up if I'm an Instagram, I think I put up a video recently and the screen grab. I tried to find the cutest screen grab. And I just couldn't. So let me see if you're maybe it's just you. Maybe if I saw him, I think he's adorable. I can guarantee you're going to go like he might be great in person. It's like something that I would never. I would never classify this as a cute dog. Hold on. All right. I'm it's not opening because of but I'll find it.

50:40Oh, there's no cell phone signal in here. Is that on purpose? No, it's just the walls are thick. Do you guys have Wi -Fi or no? Yeah, I can't find. Forget it. All right, it's okay. I get it. Oh wait, is that it? That's actually not that bad. That's cute. But there was one on. That's actually a very nice little blue bow. Yeah, we've trucking somebody in the house really moat them up. That wasn't my fucking cute little dog. Yeah, all right. That's an I -spector. Typically photographs very poorly. But we can't he won't stop shitting in the house. I can't. Will you live in an apartment? We live in a part.

51:14That's part of the problem. We put him on a terrace and he should go out there with him and she walks him. I won't walk him. It's like, it's your dog. I don't want to fucking. I don't want you to know what I mean. Again, I don't have that instinct. I'm happy you have him and you love him. But he just won't stop shitting in the house. I don't know what to do. I'm getting to a point where like I like this is why I didn't want to fucking dog. Yeah. I can't handle dog shit in my house. It's kind of gross. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty gross. I heard that I'm debating do I pay for a trainer? Do I pay for someone to come in and just?

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53:07Don't think wireless can be so transparent. So, Visible will now you know, switch today at visible .com slash rogan. Terms apply, see visible .com for plan features and network management details. Cogs. Well, in New York it helps. Like, a small little, first of all, I'm not qualified to own a big one. I don't know how people own like mastiffs and New York City, that's crazy. You can't and you can't get insurance for them. That's what made me like, if you have a dogeman or a rotwiler or pet, you can't get insurance, homeowners insurance. So if somebody gets bit, you're fucked. That's what scared me about those dogs.

53:42German Shepherd. Yeah, especially German Shepherd. Well, also like those dogs need a lot of exercise. They need a lot of activity or they get anxious and they get kind of crazy because they're not supposed to be pinned in like that. They're working dogs. They're supposed to be out there running around. And if you don't run them, if you don't exercise them every day, they get like people do when they don't exercise every day. They get cookie. Yeah, I became a little obsessed with, they usually those Caucasian shepherds. Like I want to pet one of those things or those, that's a big giant fucking thing.

54:11It comes up like 200 pounds. Yeah, it's fucking hairy to deserve. Yeah, it's a werewolf, it's a monster. But something like that, I would love to spend a moment with or go someplace and play with it. But I just, you know, yeah, I mean, look at that thing. Geez. Slaubren or be a fucking sofa. 220 pounds. Geez. Shitting. Well, they use those things to keep wolves away from sheep. Yeah. And Russian prisons, I think, they've seen footage of Russian prisons like where they have them around the perimeter. There's a fence in between like freedom and the jail. They kind of keep them in there. I wonder what their temperament is like.

54:44They're aggressive. That's what I've heard. They're very aggressive. They're very aggressive. Strong, powerful, alert, quick, dominant, calm. What? Yeah, they just, somebody just threw adjectives up there. How they throw calm in there. Steady, strong, independent, faithful, self -assured, calm. That's weird. The dough, you ever see those dough, what are they called? Dogeo are, I am a, those are, they look like giant pit bulls. They're gorgeous dogs, but again, they're, hyper aggressive. They are aggressive, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Great guard dogs, hyper aggressive. They will fuck you up. And I think those were the dogs that Ving Rames had when someone, it killed like someone working at his house.

55:25Yeah. When he was Ving Rames or before? Yeah. Ving, I'm pretty sure it was Ving Rames. I think something happened and someone, maybe they were there, were they're not supposed to be there or something happened. And someone, I think it was someone working for him, got killed by his dog. Was he, is it him or Charles Dutton who did time in jail for murder? I think it was murder, I don't get sued. But I think it was Charles Dutton or him that actually, before they were actors, went to jail. I just don't remember who his Ving Rames or Charles Dutton. I don't know. I don't know. He has one of those guys that had like a really interesting back someone if that happened.

55:59Let's go find out with Ving Rames dog first, then we'll Google did Charles Dutton murder somebody. I think it might have been Dutton. I think it's the funny thing to Google. Yeah. It said that he did not die from, and the Ving Rames case, he did not die from dog bites. They were waiting for toxicology. Oh, maybe he had a stroke and then the dog bit him. Like sometimes that happens. Like if someone has like a seizure, dogs will bite them. Like dogs won't know what the fuck is going on. They freak out and they bite him. When animals attack humans or other animals, victims usually end up with bites around the head and neck.

56:33He had none. This leads us to believe he went down for some other medical reason. Oh, that makes sense. So the bites were around his arms and his legs. So yeah, the dog might have bull mastiffs. English bulldog and three bull mastiffs. Two and a pounds. Geez, 200 pounds. You wonder if they're trying to wake him up or trying to pull him somewhere or if they were attacking. Like, is he right? They don't like the face. What's the purpose of what they're doing? Yeah, I bet it wasn't. I bet that's what it was. Sometimes that does happen when dogs will freak out or someone has a seizure. They don't know what the hell's going on.

57:04They like bite the person. Yeah, like what's he doing? They're like, you know, probably not even bite him to try to hurt him, just try to stop whatever's happening. It was freaking him out. Well, the speculation after a sick -freeing Roy, when Roy got dragged off us, I don't know what's true or not. Did the thing bite his head or was it actually trying to save him? Take him away. I don't know what, yeah, there was like a lady that had a crazy hat or something like that and the tiger was kind of weirded out by this lady's hat. Is that what it was? So I remember, but I just remember thinking duh, like the tiger just did what tigers do.

57:39Yeah. Just decided I don't like this anymore. And they both did bite you. I don't know. I know Roy Horn died, I think. I just thought they're making a Netflix series about, or Apple TV series about him. Eight episode series, Andrew Garfield and someone else are playing. Did you ever see the HBO thing on Liberace? Is that with... The Apple, is it? Well, it was Matt Damon and... What the fuck is his name? Who played Scott Thorson? The guy greed is good. You know, that guy. Michael Douglas? Michael Douglas. Yeah. Michael Douglas played Liberace. I believe, right? Didn't he? Did he? Yeah. I didn't remember that.

58:19Yeah, it was Michael Douglas and Matt Damon. Oh, he played Scott Thorson and Matt Damon. Yes. Okay. He played the guy who got plastic surgery to look like Liberace. He's a classic. What? A psycho. Yeah. He has a boyfriend, get plastic surgery to look like him. I want to fuck me. That's the last person I would want to look like. I go with surgeons to say anything, but this... Isn't that such a psychotic thing to want to fuck you? Oh my God, that's so crazy. I want you to look like me. Get your chin down to look like me. Is that a power thing? Or is it a fucking... It's a very bizarre... Yeah. Pure narcissism or just crazy?

58:55Yeah, all the above power for sure. Or a power over that guy. Right? He probably had the ultimate power in that relationship. Yeah. Because he's Liberace. He's this enormous superstar and this guy is his bitch. You know, I'm like, I want you to get a different chin. You're gonna look like me. He got a crazy chin. Yeah, he did. He looks very silly. Yeah, he looks very silly. It was a fun fucking film though. Yeah. Tell Papa how to play this. Roblo. Wow.

59:22It's a really... Joey Diaz used to have a great bit about it. About the HBO thing. Yeah, I mean, Liberace was a fucking weird case, right? Because he had to pretend that he was straight forever. Yeah. And it's so obvious. Like, today, he wouldn't have to. No. Right? He could just be Liberace. But back then, he had... Do you ever see the song? There he is. Look at that. Super straight. Look at the rings. Do you ever see the song when Liberace winks at me? No. So this is a song that played on television in like the ninth, 1950s when, you know, the world was innocent. Yes. And there's a woman who was like swooning when Liberace would wink at her.

1:00:04And so they played the... It's like, it's Liberace you playing the piano and like looking at the girl winking. And then it made like a twinkle in his eye when it... Let's play it because it's so bad. Here it is. Here it is. Put the headphones on. You gotta see this.

1:00:22What is it, 53? Is that what it said? 55.

1:00:29So she's watching him on TV and she sings. Watch this. Oh, God. Now it's time for me to believe this. My master's always come by his will He'll be really, he'll just bring you six mango green When we'd do a video with Combo for your first time in тех ou like, I'm gonna make a wish here, the piano key, a little tinkle. That's so weird. What a weird time it was back then. Dude, there's a video of him too on Instagram where it was in the 60s when he was trying to get with the, he was trying to like, you know, be with the movement man, be cool man. And it was like something about something groovy and it's just him and a piano with all of these like, like, you know, 20 -year -olds just trying so hard to get the kids.

1:01:59Oh really? Oh, it's in the 60s? I think it's in the, it looks like it's like 1967, 19, yeah. Is that it? Oh boy, he's playing.

1:02:14Groovy, look at these guys, they're pants.

1:02:28God, look at their pants. The pianos got flowers on it. God, people really lost their fucking minds in the 60s, didn't they? Yeah. This is very drug -inspired. Imagine putting those pants on. Where's the music? He does come out. I'm not sure where he does, oh there he is. There he is, there he is. At least he's dressed for the occasion. Look at him. He's got the thumbs up. Look at his fucking face.

1:03:09Look at him. God, that's so weird.

1:03:20He's turning on. Doodly do do. Liberace is turning on. Isn't that cool? Oh, God, that's so weird. And look at the pianos moving. And he had the whole two girls. Like yeah, he's here to get some plus. He's turning on. Yeah. This is like the acid days. But it's so crazy that like this was actually probably not meant to be shitty and ironic. But it was meant to be like, hey, he's this cool guy. He's getting with the scene. He's getting with the scene, man. And he's out there with his piano. And all these weird people with flowers on their pants. And the dance routine is just not the straightest. Look at him go.

1:03:59With the vest, the vest is hilarious. Yeah, it's like plastic. Yeah, it's like this fucking raincoat that they turn into a vest. And along like orange, like almost like Shakespeare sleeve. Type of shirt. So strange. God, people are so weird. But you got to think like in the 1960s television, and it had only been around for like 20 years. Yeah. That's what's weird. It's what's really weird if you really stop and think about it. It was so new. No, it's kind of like the internet, right? Like the internet was, the internet is older today than television was then. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. 30 years old now.

1:04:40Yeah. Yeah, the internet basically came around. I got on the internet for the first time in 94. I got on America online. You've got mail. Yes. And I remember this is crazy. I couldn't believe it. It hooked up to my phone. It was a 14 -4 connection. Like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, 14K. Slowest shit. And then I got 56K. I thought it was a boss. Like, look at me. 56K. You know? And I remember thinking this is crazy. Like this never existed before. So that was 30 years ago, 31 years ago. This was just 20 years after TV really. Like when did TV really start happening? In the, I want to say in the 50s.

1:05:18Yeah, I don't think it was in the 1940s. I mean, it was in the 50s. What was the first television? Hitler broadcasted. I was out of, but that must have been in the 40s. There was, because then the movie contact where they show you that Hitler broadcasted, which they said was like one of the first, he broadcasted on the radio on television. No, it was a TV. I know they used to do a lot of World War II stuff in the movie theaters. You'd go to the movie theaters. You'd get the news. The Allied Front. And they show you the news. They show you like propaganda footage of the news. Our troops are out there fighting for your freedom.

1:05:51Yes. And the Japanese, you know? Yeah, they show you. They show you, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh, Brave American troops smile, yeah. Yeah, and then they'd have those propaganda movies. 1953, 50 % of American households had a TV set by the end of 1960, almost 9 out of 10 did. Wow. So what was the first television? When did it first...? They had them they started in the 20s and then oh really they were expensive as shit and private very big And there was anything to watch so why would you have one? Ah, and then there was the first broadcast the first television broadcast Wait, it's yeah up until the 50s.

1:06:24It was really just like public information it says oh so just like the news I mean there was a lot of shows being made like what was the first television show? Yeah Before Cavalke, I'm a glies into Cavalcade I think it was called Cavalcade is like with the honeymooners debuted and you would do Reginald and Gleason But I don't that's definitely not the first one. I live Lucy was probably Same time or before that right and what year was that has to be the 50s? 53 maybe 55 or maybe later. I don't remember so probably the television really became like when did it become a thing where people would watch the news?

1:06:59Probably like late 40s maybe yeah, cuz 63 again the Cronkite broad. I mean so my then it was like in full effect So you got to think that 63 with you know Liberace or the the 55 one will Liberace that's so new Yeah, that's crazy new and then 12 years later, you know when he's fucking dancing with the flower pants on his Wikipedia version First national color broadcast the 1954 tournament of the Rose parade the US curved January 1st 1954 so the 1936 summer Olympics. Oh They have the summer Olympics they they broadcast First catalyst like big big buying wow you must have been a boss if you had a fucking television in 1936 Yeah, and then first like variety show was Milton Burles show So he became known as mr.

1:07:49Television what year was that 48 748? Wow It took his radio show and made it a TV show So by the time that Liberace dancing with the pants on it's only 20 years old. Yeah, which is really wild Was that 68th? I'm an I'm gonna assume it was definitely late 60s Red skeleton television hours And and the fact that people just didn't know he's a flaming homosexual like the fact that How did you not I guess there wasn't enough Gay people publicly so everyone didn't recognize like people knew like when you spoke a certain way that you could be but it wasn't I guess that wasn't like the the the voice that everybody recognized everybody hit it too, you know You had to hide it you imagine being a gay guy trying to find other gay guys back then like what did you do what a risk?

1:08:34Oh, yeah, it's being gay in North Korea like how those guys fucking what signal do you give we know the other guys not working for the state Right in a rest area even if he is he might throw you under the bus anyway like they have a whole culture on throwing people under the bus on Tatling yeah, their whole culture is based on tattling and if you don't tattle on people they they assumed you did something wrong I'd still like to kind of go there. I wouldn't do it I would I would yeah just because they say there's all those fake storefronts and all of those Or stores that are just for the tourists that come through that they have all those fake stores that people they get a lot of tourism Oh, yeah, I mean they get enough like Through China these companies will go through China and every country doesn't have the negative relationship that we do with them So I would kind of like to go but I don't I wouldn't trust it after that auto Warm what was his name Warren Warm Warminger?

1:09:22Yeah, I think I'm sorry Yeah, yeah, for taking a propaganda poster. Yeah It would be very scary to go but I really kind of want to they have that giant Building the it's a thousand foot tall hotel or building that is just kind of half empty like it's never was finished They light it up at night. So it looks like they have a big downtown But the in North Korea has like a thousand tall thousand foot tall building The YouTube video of a guy that went his name's Mike Mike okay. He went Three four months ago after they had not been opened since COVID really yeah, and he went just a tour around A British person so he's not from America.

1:09:59Yeah, and you're not supposed to film a lot of this stuff these guys take Really really like clandestine footage you're allowed to film in certain areas But I think your phone you had to leave it the border when you come in Yeah, he explains what he was I think he says he wasn't supposed to but he just does he eat and food there Yeah, he goes to a few little towns talks to him. I remember watching some of this This is a random coke or something somewhere or red bull I think that's so fucking risky It is risky because you just the wrong thing you do you insult them and next thing you know You're in jail for the rest of your life or you're beating a death Yeah, they said that like if there's a picture of Kim Jong -un or Kim Jong -il you have to be respectful and you stand in front of the pictures to take your photo They're really and they just rat on each other Well Shane Smith went Shane from vice yes back in the day like before things got too crazy over there And he said that they set up a fake restaurant for him like they pretended that they had restaurants And so they had a fake restaurant and he went there There's like only him there and people were serving him bizarre.

1:10:58Yeah, he said it was really weird I guess when you're seen as a god and everybody just Cosigns it you don't know how bad of a liar you are like you don't know how badly you're presenting because everybody is just oh my god Right so they don't have no idea Kim Jong -un has no idea that people look at him and go like that's not real Right and then the people that are there they have no internet like their their world is the North Korean internet They don't they're not connected to the rest of the world No, they would uh, I guess people will like sneak in some drives and stuff like that of I know South Korean TV They catch you they catch you you're fucking But you know sod mace any uh, he's uh, he's from Afghanistan and he ran uh, I think it was called the mobi group in Afghanistan But they would go next to the Iranian border and and pipe in uh, like American TV shows and they would illegally send them over the border to try to get people Like a little bit westernized or to at least see things a little bit different.

1:11:55Oh But it's an illegal feed you're just shooting it over somehow and you know hoping they don't kill you helping They don't kill you. Yeah speaking to kill you uh, what's that said speaking of kill you and I ran What oh what's going on there? Oh my god. Oh my god But no one surprised you know, and I mean like I bet the guys who got killed were surprised There was supposed to meet with trump to have a peace negotiation Wasn't the time up Didn't the time at the time lapsed no did the Israelis jump the gun on the time well this episode is brought to you by paramount pictures New film the naked gun.

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1:14:42Yeah, they essentially killed everybody that he was Negotiating with So this guy's response above it It says what evidence might there be to support this position and the position was go above that Yeah, Israel did not attack Iran because Iran was about to attack Israel Israel attacked Iran because there was about to be peace and then this guy asked Groc what evidence might there be to support this position And then Groc says evidence suggesting Israel's June 13 2025 attack in Iran aimed to disrupt US Iran peace talks includes its timing coinciding with the sixth round of nuclear negotiations scheduled around June 12 through 14 2025 international reactions like the UN and the Oman condemning the strikes as undermining diplomacy Support this view.

1:15:29However, Israel justified the attack as a preemptive strike against Iran's nuclear program citing its noncompliance with the IAEA No direct evidence proves intent to stop peace and the focus on nuclear sites suggest security concerns drove the action The issue remains debated with perspectives varying by geopolitical stance This now asked Groc Groc is kind of Twitter's AI right how influenced is it by Like I chaggy PT. I've gone to and I was kind of curious because my wife's obsessed with it So I was like I think this is probably still ideologically influenced for sure So yeah, other people have done this be I put in right five jokes about Jesus and it did five Jesus jokes And then I put in right five jokes about Muhammad and it came back with where we like to keep things respectful Yeah, and I did the same thing with right five jokes about white people and then right five jokes about black people And it did the same thing it wrote the white person jokes But the black people jokes it wouldn't write so I was like oh, okay.

1:16:27This is still Somehow tied in there's guardrails and it's it's ideologically slanted. It may not always be that way Some wondering if Groc is the same way like is any answer it gives you Almost like coming from either somebody at PBS or somebody from some Yeah, Groc is probably the best of them for that But the worst was Gemini remember when they asked Gemini to make photographs of Nazi soldiers and they had a diverse group of not soldiers Including Asian women native American women. Yeah, black people keep it. Keep it fair folks. Keep it fair Keep it fair. They just got locked up in this woke ideology thing to the point where the the images they created of Nazis were woke I don't know what happened where people become so afraid of like I know truth can be unpleasant sometimes, but like we're Where it goes to that level like we will write jokes about Jesus, but not about moham Like who's programming that and thinks that's a good thing Well, they're scared.

1:17:25They are that's what it is. I'd almost respect them if they said they were scared Like if they could look we all understand what goes on we don't want somebody running him with a bomb out like you know There's violent retribution. I would respect that but they won't say that no They act like you're crazy for question. What? Yeah, that's not true. It's not Yeah, it's weird. We're in a weird stage. We're in a weird stage. We have all the information, but still it's still got guardrails on it Do you feel I feel better about myself though the older I get the more like Yeah, I years ago Said it and knew it was getting worse and worse and like I was never stupid enough to think it didn't exist So I kind of like yeah, well if nothing else is validates what I kind of thought you know I mean like I feel like I was on a fucking idiot I'm not taking off guard by it.

1:18:10I knew it was coming Yeah, not necessarily to this level But you know, when you saw this happening and then that happening and then little weird things like Donald Sterling that one always bothered me His private communications being used against him and it's like does anyone was he was the owner of the Golden State Warriors? I don't know. Oh, this was the guy that had a girlfriend. Yeah, yeah, oh, sorry Who's this little side piece? Vista Viano yeah, and the girls the girlfriend recorded him saying a bunch of things about black people and it was almost like He was like, blah, blah. It wasn't like I don't think he was a hateful guy, but he was just like an old guy like you know I mean don't hang out with blocks.

1:18:52Well, he was saying don't do it publicly, right? Yeah, I guess it embarrasses me Yeah, something like that this friends are probably calling him. Yeah, but he's you know, he's talking to his side piece And she's recording and the whole thing was gross the invasion of either even a piece of piece of shit I don't care about him, but exactly it's the idea that people are comfortable Like nobody sticks up for privacy like everyone complains about we don't want the government and it's like hey, mother fuckers Where were you when this guy or stupid hunter Biden's big dick is all over the internet? Where were you complaining about it?

1:19:22Yeah, just judge them on it. So I wish people would stop doing that Yeah, the the hunter Biden stuff the fun stuff was like him smoking crack and hookers and foot jobs This is just fun. Did he foot jobs? Yeah, he did a lot of stuff. There's a lot of wild stuff going on there Here's a wild boy, but I guess you know, you're smoking crack Sure, you know, you had a tub on shaving. You got no guard room. You're off the fuck a reservation He's naughty boy, but then the other stuff that was in there was really interesting. Yes, the emails about 10 % to the big guy And all that stuff and there's just brutal rampant obvious corruption That they just looked the other way because it's a Democrat and it's just really strange If Trump Jr.

1:20:03did anything that hunter did right they would kill him like like they would it would be at the front page It's all they would talk about they certainly wouldn't have hit it from Twitter They wouldn't have I was really crazy. It was a New York Post story and then FBI got involved and the Twitter files like You know when shelling burger and Taibe and all those guys went over the Twitter files. Yeah, it's so damning It's so it's so crazy that that's not so illegal that there's like massive trials on television and people are prosecuted for it I guess with private companies or like even though the media operates like it's the government the government is what I'm concerned with because it's absolutely Election interference 100 % 100 % because there's a lot of people that were on the fence, you know They they didn't know whether they're gonna vote for Trump or whether they're gonna vote for Biden No, they didn't know what they're gonna do and then they saw that and they were like fuck this and guys like Jack from From Twitter have come out and say like yeah, we shouldn't have Sensor that story.

1:21:07Yeah, but it's like too late now. It's like you did it and people were telling you when you did it Yeah, you shouldn't do it. Zuckerberg talked about it on this podcast He talked about the FBI getting involved on the podcast Sensoring COVID information censoring a laptop information that this weird feeling that he got from the government All the sudden telling them what they and some of the stuff that they were telling them they had to take down was actually true factual information and they're like oh boy And so they diminished its reach and they did a lot of weird shit and the penalty for not taking it down would have been like What were they threatening them with like Section 230 is a big one that all the big companies are scared of like if they change that Because they said that like the internet freedom comes from section 230 Where a company can't be held legally liable for what's posted on their site Which is how like you can post anything about people and the sites themselves can't get sued because they're like yeah We're just like a phone company.

1:22:01It's a public square the public square although it's not anymore It's it's much more ideologically based and it's much more publisher in my opinion than a public square But maybe they threaten you with that or maybe that's where they start to go like we'll see to it the 230 I mean I'm guessing but what else could they threaten them with? Yeah, it's a good question. I mean just the fear of being on the wrong side of the government I mean that's the thing because then they could go after you like You know for someone like Zuckerberg who would already sat in front of those congressional hearings and they you know They had already asked him about a bunch of different things that the company had done and remember those weird those weird hearings that he had to sit through were sip water very strange people said he's a fucking robot So nervous of course he is yes senator no senator.

1:22:51Thank you for asking senator like all those weird moments Like you got to be terrified of those people because they could change laws They could just decide to prosecute you for think I mean look what's happening to the guy duro from telegram I don't know that story you don't know story no he is essentially He's under house arrest in France. He hasn't been tried with anything He hasn't been charged with anything but what they're saying is essentially they want a back door to telegram Telegram is an encrypted app right and a lot of people use it for illegal things Just like a lot of people use Twitter for a lot of people use DMs for illegal things They they I'm sure they use signal for illegal things and what's app for illegal things and they wanted a Telegram was especially a popular amongst criminals and they wanted to be able to get in there But then the question is like well, what are you determined as a criminal?

1:23:45Is it a political dissident like is it you know what is it what does it mean? Is it is are you looking for underage people being photographed right or are you looking at just people who like they can always Expand what they consider to be illegal. Oh, I mean they took backpaged down so they can get Certain company like if you don't do what they want you to do There is a way for them to get you by saying you're too complicit in certain activities So you want to Silk Road that's that's what happened with that rock all bracket and now he's luckily Trump freedom did he did he pardon him? Oh, yeah, yeah, we try to get him on But he's just not ready to talk which is totally understandable.

1:24:23Yeah If you ever do if you're want to talk I'd be happy to hear your story Well, cuz you're probably afraid that they're gonna come with something else like it's almost like You don't want to put it in their face. You know now I'm out fuck those people what they did to me was wrong Oh new charges that's right. Yeah, that's what whenever somebody's exonerated after 30 years of being in jail They're like I'm not even angry. I just want cuz you're afraid you're gonna say the wrong thing and then you go all right We're gonna come back. Well, that was the really scary thing about the Trump stuff like when they were trying to get him for 34 felony counts with none of those were a felony all them were passive statute of limitations It was just bookkeeping errors or bookkeeping You know they they wrote down the wrong things and they tried to hide the fact he was making hush money payments But the the reality of that legal System being used against you law fair being you know they target you like the real estate one when they they tried to say that He overvalued Mara Lago and it was really only worth 18 million and so they charged him like hundreds of millions of dollars Which is fucking insane because Mara Lago is an enormous piece of property that is on the most expensive place in the country Like that area.

1:25:35He's got I think he's got is it more than 20 acres there? I mean it's a huge piece of property there and the next door neighbor had a place There was like five acres and it sold for 50 million dollars just the property. Yeah, so they fucked them They fucked them and it's obvious that they were fucking them They were they were doing it because they were trying to make him a felon when he was running for president Yeah, Latisha James went after him really badly in New York and turns out she had done a little bank a little bank stuff going on Yeah, he did some little mortgage questions Yeah, she did some inappropriate things But he's a whether people like him or not like I don't know as a grue at all But he's an amazing person like to have withstood that The pressure of that again just as a to keep to continue With with the pressure that they were putting on him and the way they were coming after him and to still run again in way I mean it's the fucking craziest thing you're ever gonna see in your life and they shot him And they shot him and they were the guy was gonna do it again We tried to add another and a fucking oh yeah that guy with the hole in the in the fence where it's golf course was Cookie it's cookie, but it's like and somebody pointed out to me I mean, I'm surprised he doesn't expect this.

1:26:46It's like he went after them Like he he went after the CIA and the FBI and say yeah, they're gonna make it their life's work. I know I come after you now. It's also crazy when it gets real transparent like that though You know, but when someone like Zuckerberg or any other people that run a foul of the federal government of the intelligence agencies When they see stuff like that I understand why they comply. Yeah, they're probably fucking terrified It is a little sir very scary when they when you're on there Like you never want them to dig in and be focused on on you high of soron. Yeah, yeah, we're coming for you And because again, they don't pay they don't pay legal fees.

1:27:21They can do it all day. They can do it through the next administration Um, cuz Latisha Jay she would have to What I didn't like about her was a lot But I didn't like the fact that they went after Cuomo for his book money like they went after Andrew Cuomo for his book money I think they wanted them to get back. Yeah, for what reason? I don't know what her reasoning was I mean, obviously she just wanted to stick it to him and fuck him But I think it was that he that was seen as some form of a government payment or I don't remember the technicality But I remember being very annoyed that she was trying to go after I think it was a five million dollar advance Law fair is fucking terrifying It's terrifying when they do that to people when everybody could see it.

1:28:00Yeah, that's the real problem with the Trump one and my problem wasn't My my real problem was like don't these people understand doesn't the general public with their lack of Outrage because you know he's on the right and they're on the left Don't those people understand that now they've set a precedent and then they could use that on you now Yeah, or anybody else and if a Republican president gets in like there's in now It could be easily used on his opponents because they've set a precedent. That's scary shit man He's really scary and nobody's again It's like whether it's with Donald Sterling in privacy nobody Sticks up for each other on principle and the conservatives don't do it like the for their they've got like the free speech thing in their Corner now much more than progressives do but it's like I don't hear them sticking up for progressives who are annoying It's like you have to stick up for people you don't like yes, and that you think are shit It's it's not just you're not a big free speech warrior if you only fucking raise a flag for people who agree with you And I find them falling into that trap and I say don't fall into that fucking trap Right stick up for progressives who suck and who are saying stupid things defend their right to say it without getting in trouble Don't look at them getting fired is it look good good case your own medicine like we get it Yeah, but then that's how they justify you getting fired 100 % so it drives me crazy that people don't defend other people's right The privacy or right to say what they want and everyone in the country thinks they're a free speech absolutist But they're not they're not yeah elons as close as I've seen like he doesn't seem to be shutting anybody up Like regardless of what they say on his platform people are talking shit about him every day I saw one person was was alluding to Uh bad things happening to him uh, you know like wanting that or I wouldn't say encouraging it but close to encouraging it And I'm like if he's leaving that up nobody has any room to complain.

1:29:49Yeah, like if he leaves up horrible shit about himself then and buddy Also left up the Kanye song The Hitler song oh yes, is that where he blew his cousin or is that a different one? That's a different one. Oh wow all the hits That means the song is Hylh Hitler He's singing Hylh Hitler like in a catchy song. It's like wow I it's crazy It is crazy and I don't know Kanye West at all. I've never particularly loved him I find a lot of it is just like he'll just save the most troll Like something tells me he's gonna come back down to earth one day and go look I was off my medication I didn't mean any of that shit that I said I feel bad about it I think he's gonna stay off his medication I think when he puts on his medication he can't be creative.

1:30:33I think part of his thing whatever his the way his mind works Yeah, you know, I mean it's this mania. There's yeah, I was gonna say I understand that in a way because I've always like You know you go through a depression whatever. I'm like do I want to go on something? But I've always been scared that it would fuck up my probably will creativity. Yeah, it probably will I mean I think I mean, I don't know what's going on in Kanye's mind or anybody's mind out of the my own But I would imagine that you mean a guy like Kanye who's so prolific I mean he's put out so many albums and he's a complete work of hog And just has like when you talk to him like I had him on the podcast and it's almost like when you're talking He's upset like he doesn't want he wants to talk he wants to just constantly talk.

1:31:19Yeah, like his brains like a tornado Just wow It's all just going all these different thoughts and but that's also why he can make so many great songs It's like it's all just pouring out of them But you know it also gets out of hand and then you know you wind up in the situation where he's in now It also he's the only person he went into him and trump were he was in trump's office one time And he's the only person I've ever seen trump just kind of sit there and go all right well whenever he's finished I'll jump in I've never seen I want to do that to trump well trump was happy that any celebrity On his side because at that point he was Hitler You know a lot of people that were calling him Hitler and to have a guy like Kanye West Who was such a contrarian also There was the thing because Obama said he was a jackass.

1:32:02Yes, and so he's like oh really well fuck you That's right. It was about the Taylor's swithing. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah That guy's a jackass. Well, it wasn't even that harsh of an instant He said it privately and I think somebody heard it or it was picked up on a mic I don't think he said it to be public. I thought he said it privately And then somebody got the audio or whatever. It was really the Taylor Swift thing. I believe it was. Yeah. Oh here it is Here Yeah, it wasn't like perfectly nice person. She's getting her award. What's he doing? Why would he do that? He's a jackass No, no Come on guy Let's cut the presents and slack See it wasn't even any one of that cut out.

1:32:55Yeah, that was private talk Yeah, and it wasn't even said with real Malice real rancor. Yeah, it was just like he's a jackalian people laugh Yeah, I guess that would annoy me if I was him. I mean if I was him. Yeah, if it was me I'd be like guys right this episode is brought to by my friends at black rifle coffee That's all I drink folks If you see me drinking coffee in the studio. It's black rifle coffee. It's because my friend Evan Hayfer who owns a company I love him to death and they make the best coffee in the world They put together the best energy drink in America made with 200 milligrams of naturally sourced caffeine Low calories and absolutely zero sugar It's available in four new delicious flavors Project mango range your berry freedom punch and white frost veteran Founded and veteran led each black rifle coffee purchase You make helps them give back to those who serve our nation shop now at black rifle coffee Dot com slash Joe Rogan with the code rogan for 30 % off or visit your local grocery and convenience stores black rifle coffee America's coffee this episode is brought to you by man scaped look if you like me You've decided to embrace the bald lifestyle this summer Then you already know a clean dome is a powerful dome And that's why I got to tell you about the dome shaver plus from man scape this thing is a game changer They've engineered it just for your scalp not for your face or your junk your head It glides smooth as hell no razor burn no weird patches Just clean badass baldness and the dome shaver plus features For stainless steel rotary blades designed with skin safe technology to reduce nicks and cuts Delivering a perfectly bald look While it's innovative flex adjust technology assures every blade adapts to the angles of your head and stays close to your scalp for a precise finish Plus it's waterproof so you can take it straight into the shower the dome shaver plus is basically the easiest way to stay cool and look Bad ass bald all summer long try it risk -free with man scape 30 day money back guarantee do yourself a favor go to man scape Com use the code rogan 15 at checkout and get 15 % off your entire order Again, that's code rogan 15 for 15 % off your entire order at man scape dot com own the summer own the dome I guess sorry.

1:35:17Yeah, I feel like I was being a jackass But at what point do you because you know everyone has a jarogon opinion everyone weighs in on you It's crazy like I see on the daily mail all the time at what point are you able to go like I just don't give a fuck what I don't read any of it You don't care. Nope. I don't read any of it. No. I guess. Does it bother you? Has it ever bothered you? You can't do anything about it. Why would it bother you? What are you gonna do you gonna change their mind? You know you can't and a lot of it is disingenuous a lot of it They don't know you they don't listen to what you say you know if they far right whenever they say far right far right Pod times.

1:35:51Okay. Yeah, I've had comics say that like they just don't know and I'm like you don't really you really never paid attention I mean you stuck up for game average. He loves Bernie like it's crazy when you hear I was very jealous that you and I talked to Hinch The game he was winning. Yeah made a blunder and it was and but here's the genius of the people like they actually call it like Sport and the the people watching a new he fucked up, which means they're all geniuses right right magnet is blundered Magnus Blundered they couldn't believe he had made that it was like it was a rook move, but he's somebody I would like to I don't know what I talked to him about.

1:36:42Oh, he's fascinating fascinating Well any high achiever or really high level person like that world champion and something that's insanely difficult They're fast in any people. I feel that way about MMA fighters. Yeah any kind of pro athlete anybody who's like Aaron Rodgers Like any any high level performer. There's a very very unusual people. Do you give them slack like and I mean just in your brain as a person like If they're a little whatever let that rude the root But if somebody's a little quirky or weird if you're that good at something that might just be the price you pay for sure like body Fisher I love these are my favorite people ever even though he completely won both berserk But I just I have such an affection for Bobby Fisher and I'm like, well, it's just the he's such a genius that sometimes it just There's a price you pay from you gets away from 100 % I think it absolutely does and can and I think that when you you're dealing with a high level performer and in any discipline Whatever drives them to be that much better than anybody else probably makes them insane.

1:37:45I mean I just don't think I Don't think real true excellence Comes without a price. I don't I don't think there's any way to get there without just not being balanced in a bunch of other Areas of your life because you're focusing almost all of your attention on one very specific thing whether it's moving Chas pieces around or throwing a football whatever the fuck it is like you're there's no way you can be balanced in every aspect of your life if you want to be 5 % better than anybody's ever done it. Yeah, and it is weird too like because to be better than everybody at something Yeah, it's I mean whether like if you ever talk to somebody to party just what our life is doing stand up And they're talking about their job and a lot of times I'm like, oh shut the fuck.

1:38:28I don't care. Give a shit Um, so to be that on such a level better than everyone on earth at something has got to it's got to be hard not to live in that place. Yeah, where you can't relate very few things are interesting Very few things are moving right like Buzz Aldrin You snapped at me when we interviewed him. It's a bit of a cranky guy. Let's not dilly dolly. I've got to get to CNN Fuck you. What he said. Yes. I guess I I guess I'm a question a good question about his book on Mars I asked him about space travel and I stood about What type of psychological testing would you maybe need to go on a three -year space trip?

1:39:05Yeah, and uh good question Thank you. Uh, I thought it was too. Buzz did not he fucking snapped at me So I but I bet again like Regan had a bit about him walking on the moon and it's like when you've gone there It's almost like anything else and I took it by the way because it was buzz I wasn't gonna yell it on this fucking buzz Aldrin. Whatever. I'm an annoying blinking idiot asking a question They think sounds smart and he just shut me up But like how how do you find other people interesting when you're that guy right when you've done that Maybe my question was just banal and stupid Well, there's a lot of people like that that are the best at the whatever the fuck they do that they can't relate to anybody else Other than other people that do their thing and they usually like very competitive with those people So they've alienated them from their friend group as well Which is really kind of crazy.

1:39:51Well the worst is people who think they're that guy and who are just Which is mediocre just me like average comics. Oh, that's the war the comics are the worst with that the Narcissist comics that believe they're better than everybody else when they're just mediocre is crazy And then they just like shit on all the other comics. It's like do you watch your own act? Like you don't hate your act like that's crazy And you think you're doing Shakespeare and like every comic like we all have a Narcissistic quality and you need that to be in front of people look at me. Yes, that's a narcissistic quality But there's a difference between that and being like a legit Narcissist Yes, and the way comics were fucking very petty about guys like they attacked Matt Rife I'm like he's harmless.

1:40:32He's just out there doing his act in front of fucking 20 ,000 people They hate him because he's successful. Yes, but if he was nobody they wouldn't hate him That's all it is man. There's so many you very rarely see these comics attacking someone who's not doing as well as them It's always a guy who is doing better who they feel I'm entitled to serve it. Yeah Yeah, my comedy is so much more cerebral so much more interesting like oh, was it really I That's one thing I'll say for myself and this I have a lot of false But I've always put the blame squarely where it belongs on me. Yes. I never think it's the world.

1:41:07It loves you It's I mean that's a very good quality to have you know like maybe self -deprecating to a fault Sure, you're a little bit self -deprecating to a fault like I don't care. I don't know how many times I've had to tell you no Jim you're fucking great stop You know like you and I've had a lot of those conversations. Yeah, but I don't do it for it I don't it's better than me saying Jim you're not great. Yeah, Jim. You're okay Jesus fucking Christ leave everybody else alone and look yourself But I don't I don't do that because I want people to compliment me either I've never out there going you're two guys am I fat?

1:41:37Yeah, it's But but it's the guys who think like I I went and watched and I don't know that I just I went and watched some of his clips I'm like he's funny. He's just doing crowd work like what's the problem? And he's good. He's good at it. It's the reason why the rena's full first of all very handsome good looking guy Cute adorable lovable Really nice guy in real life. I knew him before he was ever famous. I met him. He's 20 years old He was coming around the store. He was a nice fucking guy. Yeah, I've been friends with him for a long time I don't understand that hate, but you know I was coming from a different position, you know I was coming from position where I was already famous and I wasn't looking to be more I wasn't you know, there's some people that like always feel like they haven't gotten enough they haven't gotten enough credit Have you got enough respect?

1:42:21You know that these other people are stealing from that. Yeah, it's a famine mentality It's a terrible mentality to carry around with you because you never heal from it if you Go through life with this famine mindset and everybody else is doing better than you like you You have the worst attitude ever for getting good at things because you're always going to be focusing too much of your attention on other people Yes, you're really sabotaging yourself what you believe it or not what they're getting what they're doing It's the feeling of entitlement like if I was if I was bitter about every person that used to open for me that passed me I mean, I'd be on a comedy club roo with an AR 15.

1:42:57I just I couldn't handle it I mean you have to learn to live with it and go like yeah, you know what? I recognized people that were funny like I like funny people and I was right about certain people like they're really good comics So yeah, it's that sense of entitlement that guys get that drives me fucking crazy But I see them attacking certain people doing well and I'm like I don't they always did it to carotop He's actually funny. He's a funny comic. It's a funny show. It's got a great doing show in Vegas It's fucking great and he's a really nice guy. Yeah, he's a great guy. I mean guy It doesn't deserve anyone's hate.

1:43:28He's a sweetheart. Yeah, you know what I had him on the podcast He was so happy and so thankful that like someone wasn't shitting on him and they said like dude I got great crowds now my crowds are packed like it's a great show if you're in Vegas go check him out Yeah, it's fun and he's a really nice guy and I watched him Like on kill Tony. There's a clip of him and they pulling up these things and like game house It was a disco ball over a mouse trap and it was so stupid, but it's like it's really as funny stuff And it's silly comedies think all props are bad or all And me and Colin talked about that one time and he goes why should the hacks on McDonald's like meaning like if you have something That's original and funny to say about a subject who cares of hacks have touched it if your thought is original Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly And it's this weird thing where comics think they sound smarter if they go after certain things.

1:44:16Yeah, that's stupid It's a dumb it's a dumb perspective. It's the it should be here's the world through my eyes and everything is in the world traffic is in the world if you have a traffic joke And it's actually legitimate like maybe you have a perspective on traffic that I've never heard before Maybe your airline travel bit will be the airline travel I really love because you know, there's that's the problem with comics too is that when you're on the road too much your experiences Are very limited because all you're doing is performing in front of people hanging out in the green room going to dinner flying in a Airplane staying in a hotel so how many comics have jokes about hotel rooms and You know they knock on the door even the do not disturb us on and you're jerking off like how many guys have done those jokes?

1:44:59Yes, but it's just because you're you have a very limited experience to draw from I actually I started taking days off And my wife and I will go on vacation somewhere will do because it becomes where you're feeding on yourself You're only doing a bcd a bc and there's no life right and I'm like what am I gonna talk about we get it? You're at Newark Airport. It sucks. Yeah, so I just wanted to do more life things Hey, cuz it's fun to do but be it's like just I allowed myself to because I'm like you can at least talk about it Yes, it's not you can't just talk about Being a comic or your right. I'm almost too much to talk about myself like I wanted to talk about other things I just feel like the only thing I'm really qualified to discuss with my own life But I kind of want to talk about other shit too because like life is kind of stable now and it's I don't know what to do with that.

1:45:46I don't know how to handle You know what I mean like not being out and being crazy and fucking riding around for four hours a night with a piss cup in my car I mean, it's just ugly the fucking ugly scene show So I did when I were kicked off the I would ride around and just fucking just ride around for for four hours a night List I couldn't listen to any comedy. I couldn't because so in such a fucking depression. I would put on sports radio 60 Joe Beningo overnight. I don't know. You know, he is no. He was a guy on six sixty two forty on the fan And he was a jet fan and he was a fucking maniac But I would listen to him complain about the jets and or art belt.

1:46:23I found that with art belt right there Ah, I didn't even notice that yeah, he's on the wall now That's why I heard about me to you. Kaku was from was from him And I tell you he lived in my building in New York So I would listen to art ball and I would listen to Joe Beningo and just look at hookers all night and I piss in a cup and I would fucking ride around and it was just my My way of and go to bed wake up maybe eight hours later and go to tough crowd when I was on There's a very crazy fucking time. Yeah, so that life when Owen A. Got pulled that was uh that was an interesting Moment of censorship right like that homeless guy came on and said terrible things about condolence of rice and the queen of it No, that's a different than we got fired was for sex for Sam that was 2002 someone had sex in a church.

1:47:10Yeah, yeah, you got points. That's right. That's right But the company had signed off on the bit like I got why they were mad But they had signed off was a sponsored bit the company knew what was going on So and they could have survived that if the company didn't throw them under the boat panic and in fairness It's so much it's so funny like regular radio is what saved the career because when XM Suspended the show for a month. We were on K -rock at that time right and they kept us on for the month So then eventually we came back to satellite a month later, but I think they would have fired those days Yeah, yeah, it's what I'm not doing radio now.

1:47:45It's the first time in 20 years. It's very strange wow to To not have to be up um, I get up at like nine now and just go to the gym so I have some kind of Schedule, but it's very weird after 20 years to be gone from that day on radio forever It's been more than 20 years hasn't it? Well, it was 20 on this run and like but well the when did the ONA start? ONA I did like 2001 2002 okay, we have fired came back on October of 2004 and my contract expired the end of December Jan of 24 so it was about 22 years total Every comic owes ONA a debt of gratitude all of us do Without them, I don't think there would be podcasts I think that was the real podcast because that was the first time we realized Because ONA did the show with no structure where it's like I did Howard a bunch of times But when you did Howard you were a guest yeah, they wanted stuff that you were gonna talk about they had questions for you That setups, you know, they were ready and then a couple times I did Howard where you would write jokes for him So you would sit there and there was an overhead projector It was the Jackie chair when Jackie left right so they brought a bunch of us in and then already wound up doing it All the time.

1:48:59I couldn't do it. I was just like it was too early in the morning Yeah, it's like I didn't want to live in New York But I did it a bunch of times But it was structured, you know, and Howard was always in control of it and he's actually running the keys Yes, he's running the board the soundboard and you know It was very structured show and you know, that's how he did it forever. I get it But the way ONA did it was so different. There was no structure you'd go in there and just sit and just have fun Yeah, and it was beat Patrice and you and me and and fucking You know everybody was coming Vos and Bobby and all these different people coming and burr and you know, I mean and it was some of the wildest moments ever like the baby bird I'll never see anything crazier than that in my life Never Yeah, yeah, he died recently, huh Pat from Monarchy.

1:49:47Yeah, for Monarchy had filled in a thing his name was Rest in peace Pat from Monarchy that one thing that you did that one day was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in my fucking life. Yeah, it was a r e was there with me Burr was there and I remember it was my idea. I think it was right because you know, I was doing fear fractured time I was used to people doing horrible shit And I was like how about you lean your head over the garbage can and he throws up in your mouth And fucking pat Duffy who was such a psycho He was like, okay, he would do anything. He brushed his teeth with cat shit I thought it was dog shit, but you might be right, but I'm gonna to pat Duffy was a fucking fucking psycho He was like a marine if interns had that he was a seal.

1:50:32He was a seal fearless He was funny. He didn't give a fuck. He got it. He was great. It was great He was the best like radio employee of all time. He really was and that moment was the fucking craziest thing I've ever seen in my life I couldn't believe it was happening and the amount of vomit that was coming out of Pat's mouth When he was throwing it into pat Duffy's face and Pat was lying there with his mouth open Yeah, I mean people at home listening to this you'll come on. There's cell phone footage of this. Yes, I'm like a 2002 cell there 2007. Yeah, was it 2007? Yeah, I think we're in K rock That's the K rock studio right there.

1:51:08Look at these throws up in his mouth his mouth's wide open It was so disgusting and he kept coming yeah because Pat drank like some fucking it Seventy something things of egg no like two gallons of egg nod it was fucking and say any uh There goes and it would just keep coming like you like no, it's over and if you hear us in the studio. We're all screaming He just keeps throwing up you think it's over you think it's over no He's got more and at the end. I mean it's cart It's like that scene and stand by me with the blueberry in contest. Yes, or in a money And it keeps going it keeps going it doesn't end He thinks it's over Oh, it's fucking absolutely completely insane.

1:51:57Do you ever see the meaning of life money Python? Yeah, when the guy went by a waffle thin mint Monsieur and he starts vomiting get me a bucket I'm gonna throw up. Oh, yeah This what he reminds me of because he's not moving he's standing there and his mouth opens and the vomit just shoot Usually you wretch and you move but he just opened his mouth and it was like a button got pushed It's the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, and if it wasn't there it is Yeah, exactly. It's just like the but it's not that's not even as extreme. No look out for that guy He was just great insane a Waforthin mint then you know that show Having that kind of a format let us all realize how fun it is just get comics together and just talk shit Yeah, you know, and then when Anthony started doing live from the compound when he did his own show That was and then of course Tom Green show because Tom Green has his own show in his living room And I was a guest on that too, and I was like that really let the light bulb in my head Yeah When Anthony started doing his own show from his basement.

1:52:57I was like why don't I do something like that You know like it's and he had a professional setup he had he had fucking beer kegs and Hit a beer on tap and he was doing karaoke with a machine gun. I mean just a psychopath Singing your light up my life with a fucking AR 15 But he was having a good time and I remember they were the radio station was trying to get him to stop doing it XM or serious or whoever it was was trying to get him to stop doing it and he was like Well, why it's not radio right if anything is getting more people to watch the radio show He would do it on weekends it would get an interview at the show It was like he would just go and fuck around and that was back when we were on pal talk too remember oh god Yeah, the video would be on pal talk because most people would only be watching or listening on radio Right, but then they would broadcast live on pal talk because it was like so unheard of like nobody was doing that That was how the Anthony weiner dick photo got out really that was from opian Anthony That was we had Vincent's an off -real in studio and we had Andrew Breeport and Excited met Breeport doing a rena on fox so they both came in and we were talking and the pal talk window was open and Apparently I did like Andrew had the picture of Anthony weiner's dick.

1:54:10So he showed us in studio We just looked at it on the phone. I didn't but apparently Anthony held it up to the Pal talk window and showed them and somebody grabbed it And that was how that photo got out Wow serious xm and sticky situation I want an investigation from series into what the hell happened there bright part says after he shows an x -rated picture In the shock jox opian Anthony who then shared on Twitter while this permission to too Yeah, but I it was one of the we're pre -park at man at me And he's like I was friends with Jim Norton and he told us to Elliott spits around his show when he goes and he betrayed me But I really didn't it wasn't me.

1:54:47I was doing Tom pop is fucking podcast. So he thought you did it He thought I set him up, but I really didn't no Um, and I saw him years later in LA and we I talked explained to him and he was very cool I was happy because right before he died so I always liked him I was happy that we at least I get to tell him that dude. That wasn't me at all. Did they whack him? Did they whack Andrew Breeport? No, cuz they would have crashed the site. I mean I he was doing coke right wasn't it an overdose or something? I think it's always a hard attack. I thought it was Here I'm just starting rumors. Hey, it's doing coke right?

1:55:15I don't remember me. Maybe he was doing coke But I think it was a hard attack. Oh, I might think there was a lot of suspicion that he might have got whacked Really because yeah, he was one of those guys that was you know exposing a lot of shit Yeah, but they didn't they didn't crash the site did the site change after he was gone wearing headphones God damn it's just so nice put him on no one was enjoying myself so much We did win Liberace wings at me Liberace you got you to wear headphones Sure did notice you were wearing yeah, I didn't notice either but we're liberal she wins you have to hear it in both ears Yeah, there was some there was some speculation that he got why but when everybody dies or speculation they got whacked Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that um But I felt bad about that.

1:55:59Well that collapsed on the street nearest home collapse on the street near his home hyper trofic cardiomyopathy Mmm focal carnery arthoros Chlerosis died from congestive congestive heart failure which had been diagnosed the year before oh so you had a heart okay Yeah, well, I mean when you're running a site like that. I mean match in the stress. It's constant Yeah, and then you know you're also like your your business is exposing people politically and opening up yourself to potential assassination Well, who do you think put up the opian Anthony homeless trolley audio? Oh, he did They was Andrew B.

1:56:37I was before I knew him But that that's what it went up on B. Bar and the headline was will this Crash will this stop the merger between Sirius and XM? Wow, so that was why they reacted because they were afraid I think people in regular radio wanted to stop that merger Oh 100 % so they uh radio was terrified of Sirius XM They were terrified of it and I think so I think they pushed that story Hoping that it would fucking tank the merger which of course it did not you remember those days when you first went over there It was so crazy because we could talk like we had talked in the green room. Yeah, we could swear We'd call someone a cunt.

1:57:14You can say anything you want it was crazy They never I'll tell you one thing about Sirius Even though I didn't like the way the contrary way my time there ended I wish that was handled a little bit better But I guess everybody who leaves a gay wishes things for handled differently They never once Fucked with me about content. I'll say that for them. They never came from and goes hey man We that thing you talked about could you not could you back off even long into Where everybody was getting cancelled in trouble Sirius never came and asked me not to say something Um Jim McClure who ran the channel never broke my balls about jokes.

1:57:46We did or a stance. We would take like They kind of let that go Well, they had a crazy situation where they you knew that one person was getting insane amounts of money Yes Howard Stern and everybody else was getting very little was real weird It was because it was very open that Howard was getting all that money which obviously he was the reason why I've Went over there in the first place. Yeah, he's he was it was it was serious and we were at XM And he was it serious and that was the giant get was Howard going over also There's also the thing that if he leaves the stock collapses Especially now.

1:58:22Yeah, you know, I mean if you don't have Howard Stern anymore. What do you got? What do you have that's not available for free? Yeah, I saw my serious stock. So whatever happens I did I was happy it spiked up to like seven and I fucking dumped Will you allow to sell while you were working there? Did you have to wait to you weren't working there? Oh, they nobody can nobody has been getting you stocky ball. I bought it I bought it years before when I thought they're gonna go bankrupt Uh, we bought a little bit But I was getting what I told him at the loss is when I was getting sued so I didn't buy as much Pay for fucking lawyers But yeah, they tried to cut me like an unreasonable amount and so we were still negotiating and then they just go Yeah, we're not gonna renew they waited till Christmas break and they're not gonna renew so it's like all right I guess I get why they did that but but it's got to be weird when you're over there and you know that Stern is getting hundreds of millions of dollars And everybody else is like, you know, they're just pinching pennies with people I never minded that and really didn't care because I only cared about what I was getting and When I saw what they gave certain podcasters that went over there I'm like, okay, they do have them money.

1:59:23So if they're choosing not to give it to me. Yeah, I have to just accept that Like you I mean like I never knew it would open Anthony made I still to this day don't know what their salary was I never asked that's great. Be grudge those guys. I never gave a fuck like you know, they were the brand Opie Anthony. It was like they took me in so I never care what they got I never felt entitled to their money and I never asked what they made even when me and Opie did a show Never said what you make him like they gave me a raise but I didn't I don't look at money like that Like I have to know what you're making because it's like yeah, that's not much good.

1:59:55That's a healthy way to look at it Yeah, so whatever Howard made I'm sure some of it was inflated but like oh he made a lot of fucking he did He made a lot of fucking money but but again if he's not there How are you selling it if he's not there? What are you what are you selling that's not available for free everywhere? That's why I was like bummed about the way it happened I'm like because we did a talk show Maybe they were just like yeah, we can put more money into the rest of the channel of Jim whatever I'm glad I'm doing a podcast like I haven't noticed any change in my life, which is great Because I'm on the road more making you know, I'm making money on the road, but It's weird not having it.

2:00:29It's weird. It's weird not knowing that it's there right right right Yeah, it hasn't affected anything But the knowledge that that income was gonna be there is gone So it's a kind of a weird naked feeling. Does it make you more motivated to do stuff though to like to get your own thing going on in I'm on the road more now like I'm doing extra road work and the special was one of those things where I wanted to do one anyway, but it moat like I shot it in November and before we even came back from Break I had my channel set up. I had already started doing episodes I was like fuck this. I'm not sitting and waiting.

2:01:06It's not gonna take me a year I'm just gonna get up and if it takes me a year to get Moving fine, but I'm gonna start now. What is Sam doing these days? He's doing a show. They gave him the show Oh, so he's still yeah showing they got ready you yes, whoa Well, I mean, I kind of saw that coming. Are you sure? Yeah, I mean I I almost Can they they had cut me the year before a little bit, but again, I'm not unreasonable. I'm not a fucking idiot people take cuts Oh, they cut your money. Yes, by 10 % but I'm like, you know what? It's still good money My wife had just come to the States. I'm like, I want to make sure I have money for lawyers And then I told my magic.

2:01:40They're gonna cut me by this much Guaranteed and they almost to the dollar offer me what I predicted So we pushed back and tried negotiate and they acted like they were negotiating and then The day the day of Christmas break like we were off the air for two weeks I got the call like yeah, we're not gonna So they would just kind of I think keep it a going until that But I don't I don't have any bet. I truly don't like they bought me two apartments I had a great life there. I fucking I broadcasted for 20 years like It's time to move on anyway. Yeah, and I was telling you a long time ago that you could be doing better on the internet anyway by your own I think you I remember you talking me.

2:02:16I mean 2017 around even before then about pod I wasn't allowed to podcast because of my My contract they wouldn't allow it and I think that was one of the sticking points with this one I was like I have to be able to do my own podcast especially if I'm taking a cut And I'll just eat shit for a while until it gets where I wanted to go Yeah, you have to be able to be your own boss in this day and age just just it's not It's and also the as big as serious xm was it's just not that anymore You know, it's just not what it used to be like if If I didn't have a podcast and during the opian Anthony days what it was in his height if they offered me a show I'd be like whoa Okay, that would have made sense But now I'd be like what am I what that unless I wanted to do Kind of what Howard's done just make a ton of money and kind of like slip away Which is really what I kind of tried to do was with Spotify I was hoping that Spotify was gonna make me like 10 % less famous.

2:03:13That was like the idea really yeah I was like give me money. Give me money. Yeah, I'm gonna be any more famous. I don't need that And we'll just give me the money but you know if But nowadays it's like there's just not enough people listening and I know they own Pandora now too so they made a bunch of deals with podcasts because I think they're gonna try to get people to listen to Pandora and do it that way But your stitcher. I think they do too. Yeah, I used to be on stitcher too But that's the thing. It's like the internet is just too There's so many more people that are listening to all these other platforms Spotify YouTube It's just it's just too enormous.

2:03:50It's too big to ignore it is it is and it's like I think that they kind of They handled podcasting in a way that terrestrial radio handled satellite which was You know, it's not a big deal and then get involved with it or somehow embrace it But a little bit later in the in the game too late. Yeah, but I mean they have some big podcasts I mean like again, I don't have a caller daddy They do and when I knew but realized the money they gave her Again, I don't begrudge her at all like whatever you make you make and it's got nothing to do with my salary But I realized they do have the money So if they're choosing not to I have to just fucking accept that but you got a wonder if that's a good idea for her But she's still on Spotify though.

2:04:31I don't know if she I don't know yeah, isn't she she is right? Yeah, I think she's still everywhere else too. Yeah, which is makes it a good idea The thing is if they limit your distribution that's what makes it a bad idea like one of the new things that we did with this new Deo was Spotify and they were actually into it was put it everywhere Yeah, you know not just beyond Spotify, but also go back on you to back on Apple right everywhere Which was made me very happy like it should be everywhere. Yes, you know You want people to know just to stumble on it where to go I heard this thing about about this thing today.

2:05:03I want to go look at it right now Right, they don't want to sign up for something. I took the fucking email exactly. Give your credit card Yeah, it's kind of silly and some people just get accustomed to using certain platforms like for me forever All I listened to is Apple podcasts, you know the podcast app on Apple. Yes simple Like download whatever the fucking shows. I wanted to listen to and I would get it that way I don't want to have to change right. I want to have to look around You know, it's just one of those things people get accustomed to getting things in a certain way It's right. It's there.

2:05:33Yeah. Yeah, it's great to see too like like I don't know I'm sure he does get the credit, but like Dame deserves a lot of credit because of the My social media. Oh, yeah, I mean, I think Dane history has kind of forgotten about what he like he did a lot to change the way we promote 100 % and then shults That that fucking thing of just turn your phone this way now. Uh -huh. Like a holy shit like it revolutionized the way comedians put out Clips and it's like I mean what he did was do he he capitalized on COVID in the best possible He came up with a different stop. He's so smart He thought of a different style of comp because there was a lot of people during COVID that were doing like Late night talk show monologues Uh on the internet and they were terrible terrible because there was no audience no audience But what shults did was he made up for the fact there wasn't any audience with visuals and rapid fire punchlines That's right, and he did it differently than he does his standup like his standup He'll say something really funny and let it sit So it's even funnier like it builds, you know, and he'll look at you like what You know it'll hold the lab.

2:06:42Yes, whereas in this Netflix or in the the you know, it was on Netflix as well But when he was doing the sideways thing it was just rapid fire and then it is he's more than this than that That and of this and the photograph of the thing and you'd watch and you go hilarious He different than standup. Yes, and everybody was sharing it. It was a genius approach to a genre instead of trying to apply stand -up style Comedy and monologues to you know your Instagram. Yes, he did a whole new thing Yeah, and his standup is funny. He did something on on jokes that only working Hawaii And I was it's in an arena and he's fucking murdering the way you murder in a club Yeah, but it's like they're all new jokes just for whole and it was like yeah, yeah, it's really fun He does that everywhere he goes.

2:07:25I know he did that in Abu Dhabi He would buy yeah and Dubai he had jokes only about Dubai about you know about shitting on hookers It was like oh, that's so awesome. It's my life But I was happy to see somebody doing something really Creative as opposed to blinking their way through chip chippers on a fucking TBS show We have to decide don't shit on chip. I love chip too I love the fact that that's your your closet character when you put the wig on Glasses you understand it's the bayonet my exit. I can't do anything without being called a sock cucka fucking packer kiss In the in the live chat today.

2:08:03It's all chip. Hey, when it's chip coming back chip is but it's all People love and hate chip. I love chip. I love chip. Yeah, it's a Stab is such a fucking weird thing It is it really is I might do it again I missed doing it like when Anthony would come on it was that like the best We did a few lied to three live shows with it and it was fucking amazing. There were theater shows and the crowds Loved it. It's sold better than I do which is absolutely humiliating I sold it as chip Then Jim Norton Jim Norton. There's still a giant curtain chip fucking sold out But I do miss doing it, but I don't miss getting guests like I fucking now I have one podcast to do I love doing it, but I still hate saying hey, could you film or like I hate did you do it all yourself?

2:08:44Is that what you did it pretty much? People with it. Yeah, I had a my co -host my my for the Coast I was using most reason was Zia and she was great and she would do like a lot of the behind the scenes work for me and she would you know Help reach out to people in coordinate, but I ultimately had to ask it was like one of those things. I wanted a comedian on I'm one time Nick DePolo came on and he was sitting across and this was what we chip would give us all sailor hats And we're all wearing sailor hats and I remember I go calm chip. I have to I can't say me. I can't I can't face it It's like Ted Bundy we're talking about himself in the third person.

2:09:20Why because it's not proud of it So I would I would all we we had on these sailor hats I remember Nick was talking and we were having fun But it was the way he was like looking like he was looking at Jim As he was talking and he didn't say he was he played along, but I was like oh Oh Fucking I just have a next stare at me and I knew he was seeing his friend Jim with a wig on a wig and glasses But I do miss it made me laugh um To do it, but people would just be too annoying about like oh good this good. Let's get that You know they were complaining and say oh I made zero money doing it and here's why I didn't made a mean on YouTube Because I didn't realize that I shouldn't have had the word fuck in the theme song I'm so Jamie jester from fucking hatred saying the theme song and it was chip has a fucking but like literally that automatically fucks you from monetization Right and I had no idea so all of my episodes had fuck in the first five seconds I never made any money to and check a few hundred bucks on a read here and there But it was it was a labor of love it was one of those things that you could bring it back with a new theme song I could or I did change it at one point.

2:10:26I changed it I took fucking out change it people love chip put gosh darn it was like some obvious. Oh, that's even better some awful edit that went in But it's like when am I gonna do it? Where am I gonna do once mine gets up and like mine's been up for a few months I love doing it we do callers which I like the live interactions like when you do radio It's hard to not feel like anybody is listening right in the moment, you know And it takes you in weird directions like people will call up with legit everyone like some kind of it's like But then as soon as somebody goes what do you think about this and they're talking about wanting to commit suicide or they're talking about fucking It becomes interesting because people like everyone wants to give advice right right right So I like that.

2:11:04I like knowing that something alive will take you into a different direction than we would have gone in Yeah, oh yeah for sure. Yeah, there's something to that. Yeah, there's definitely something to that But there's a you know, there's also something it's like it becomes very chaotic because people are calling it just a fuck with you and I've surprisingly had very little of that we believe I mean again I'm always with coming from oh and a like Nothing is too much at this point because you become so used to right craziness and people death threats in the fucking I still use a fake name at the seller because I would get death threats like that There was a couple of them that actually concerned me because people using their real names I'm like if a guy is threatening to kill you with his real name attached to it like he's fucking he's a problem.

2:11:46What was it over What there was one time Anthony had said something in the guy thought I said it um And the guy said something about I'm gonna fucking kill you. I don't remember what it was But it was it was the tone. He said it I'm like that feels different than anything anyone's ever said to me plus again last time we talked about the fucking lawyer Um who hadn't committed a murder at that point, but I still knew he was crazy and I would get I have a hate me Fucking file and I used to argue with them. Oh boy back in fourth like a dummy But people would tell me watch your back. I know where you live I'm gonna shoot you and then I would see a real name sign to it And I'm like yeah that guy's mentally ill He's a lot of those out there.

2:12:24Fuck yeah, there are a lot So I started doing the I was at the comedy seller I would always use names from the JFK assassination Like David ferry was appearing It was never Oswald or Kennedy. I wasn't that on the nose But it was he was you know a clay Shaw it was just all these people from the fucking from the uh Kennedy assassination Allie Wong he's tough to do that at the comedy store. Um because he was famous. What was he a stalker? Shoot get stalkers. There was this one crazy guy that kept showing up But you know, I guess stalkers for a woman or even more creepy much more terrifying for a woman And it's like there's got to be a way like in black mirror There's one thing you they had a thing where you could block people from seeing you and again It's a futuristic thing But the the the the penalty for stalking should be so fucking severe because the way they allow someone to ruin someone else's life Yeah, it's crazy that they haven't figured out something where when you're convicted of stalking You should be forced to have something in your phone or some type of a monitor bracelet that alerts you at the person It drives me crazy.

2:13:26It's nothing I hate more than some fucking creep stalker But I guess I dealt with it so again, it's very creepy for women way more creepy for women You know and they get a lot more of them Yes, a lot of guys get obsessed Yeah, cuz I don't get st - no, I'm not interesting to stalk because I fuck you She was stalk me to show up and have nice things I mean you got me But I did fuck one stalker which was great turned out to be oh no Yeah, it was a bad move And I was bad and bad I couldn't keep it up. I was just it was it was it was really With during the lawsuit it was a really bad time for me and I kind of felt bad like she thought I didn't like her But I was just but anyway for two years it was phone stalking And it was not Scary like it would be for a woman just annoying But it becomes a part of your life like you become like this is what the old iPhones So I would always get these I would leave LA on a red eye and I would land in my my iPhone would be filled with voice messages About you know what Jim and just you know what a piece of shit.

2:14:26I was the bad guy So like she used to think I was talking to her on the radio like oh she gets a frenic. I don't know Um can we talk dirty a lot and I and I you know and credit where it's due Um did good dirty. Oh you have no idea the crazy ones are the best fuck they anticipate Exactly what you need right before you get there. Oh Psychotic and erotic. Yeah real close. It really is it because it's something about the inhibitions Um Being lowered and you know the cock talk. I always like that not as much now because I get a maribut I always enjoyed good cock talk But at least make me very happy and I get why guys wouldn't like that But it would make me fucking crazy.

2:15:07It's so weird what people like Like the the shitting on the chest thing that's like Influencers get paid to go to Dubai a lot of money and those guys are shit on them Wait, they shut on the influencer the influencers on them. They shit on the influencer Real I can see that yeah like hot girls Hot girls go over there and they can make half a million dollars and a guy and shit on for a weekend That's so that's crazy. Yeah, like just I guess that if you don't be more than that I mean if you think about people that have insane amounts of money, you know what you're dealing with like oil money These guys like we you know we talk about the richest people in the world Yes Elon Musk is the richest man in the world.

2:15:48Yes. Well, he's the richest public man in the world I mean, I'm not saying he's not insanely raised worth 200 something billion dollars. Yeah, but that's nothing compare to these royal families Right these oil families. They probably have trillions. They probably have trillions of dollars But it's not public. They don't have to disclose. Yeah, how much money they have Whereas in America like wealthy people that are like on the On the legit and the up and up you you know, everybody knows what your net worth is Everybody knows how much you have but to pay somebody see I thought you meant to get shit on To shit on an influencer.

2:16:22I've seen a few tick talks where I'm like I'd give her a thousand. She let me take a dump on her She was annoying. She was annoying. I think that's what they do That's I mean this is people have talked about it openly girls have talked on some of those weird podcasts Girls have talked about how they go over there and the other make hundreds of thousands of dollars and you know It's only like 20 minutes of their time. They just lay there some guy shits on them. Everybody cheers That's all there's a group of people watching yeah, bunch of guys your boys are there and you're shit on her I didn't influencer because you she probably said something you didn't like or you just want to shit on a hot girls tits I mean that would do nothing for me and I'm a pervert but I think it's like a humiliation thing They want a humiliate people and they want to know that they have so much money that they can get you to submit to this willingly Dude, I've seen the humiliation look every time I fuck someone I know what that look is it is a fucking weird desire to want to shit on somebody it is because it's so not sexual like it's weirdly Punishing or like yeah, like and again being dirty is I'm not saying it having to fetish is wrong Because I'm pissed off like it's whatever.

2:17:27I mean a lot. I've done a lot of trying it And I don't even know what I liked about it. I don't know what I liked about it was because it's naughty It was intimate and yeah, it was Intimate and not private intimate and naughty. Yeah, and I think well that's you're getting pissed on whereas like if you're having someone Lay there why you shit on them That is like just an ultimate expression of the the power of money. I Supposed it is. I just don't understand the desire There's like there's so many things I would love to do if people let me do them for money But not shit on them like that would just be so like my shit's horrendous Like I'd be embarrassed and I know and you want to make sure you can shit at the proper time because you can't really time your shits No, but again if you have enough money to bring her over and shit on her you have enough money to keep her on hold Yeah, she's not gonna take a busy.

2:18:16I'm drinking coffee I'm having a cold bro. I'll be I'm smoking cigarettes drinking coffee brewing up a good one for you I have not heard that I know that people get sent over there and they fuck I actually want to go to Dubai Like it's the one of the few places. Beautiful. Have you been to the birch? Yeah, no, I've been to that but I've been to Dubai I was in Dubai once because they had the weigh -ins there for the UFC and it's like everywhere you look It's like Rolls Royce Ferrari Lamborghini like there's the amount of money there was preposterous and this was quite a long time ago This is like 2007 I believe that's probably before the birch was built Was it was the birch?

2:18:51I don't think I was No, I don't think it was there So what I had seen is just like what was there then and just the Obscene amount of wealth is really like shocking. Yeah, I want to go just to go I'm afraid of heights. It's like I want to go into that That observation deck on top the one that Tom Cruise floors is it I want to say it's like 120 or something. It's fun. It's crazy. It's 3 ,000 feet the The tower. So I think it's the tallest structure in the world and there's a few people who have sat in that Like there's like you see that picture of Tom Cruise Who is batshit crazy like he actually jumped out the window of that thing for real You ever see footage of him training for that mission impossible.

2:19:31He jumped out the window He jumped out the window strapped in and I've seen footage of him like taken by people on the observation deck of Tom Cruise hanging out On the outside of the birch tower And there's a picture of him sitting on the very very top. It's 3 ,000 feet and his feet are just hanging off and a helicopter Is circle he was the first guy to do or anything He's probably harnessed on his back somehow. What is this for a mission impossible? One of the mission possible But yeah, that's oh my god, but he actually is in space. Um, oh my god. Look how tall that is He's running. It's the craziest they have ever seen.

2:20:06He's a fucking maniac He is the fact that he's still doing these stunts and he's 62 years old. Do you see what he did in the last mission impossible? He jumped in a flaming parachute rip the parachute off and then opened up the second parachute and you know, I mean There's no backup parachute for the second parachute. He's doing this for a movie If I've never met Tom Cruise if I ever met all I want to ask him is how do you get insurance companies to agree? Right to let you do this right. I can't imagine He was running down the the face of the time and some of it was shot in CGI. I mean that's legit like that was real Yeah, here it is look at this.

2:20:44So he's he jumps out in a flaming parachute And this is all planned out I mean they doused the parachute with gasoline jumps they lighted on fire Look at that 16 times 16 times Oh my god So he has to cut it loose and then he has to open up his secondary parachute Is there a you wonder is there a kill switch that if like you push your clamping you can't get the clamp on his fucked Like if you can't cut loose he's fucked And if his second parachute doesn't work he's double fucked Yeah, I heard him say sort of like he figures out some crazy hasn't done And then just goes through all the processes of like how do you learn how to do this?

2:21:28Yeah, he learned how to fly helicopters for one of the stunts like one of the stunts where they're Bombing through the canyons. Yeah, he was actually flying the helicopter He wanted to make it really obvious that it was him. Yes flying that helicopter And he and the side of the plot see them talk about like being on the side of the plane that took off when he was hanging off the plane But you wonder like what what is it in you that like what kind of a rush when you're not working What do you do to think about like fucking cowboys surrounding will fly a plane and then cut the engine in fall Because he needs that these fucking crazy needs dopamine What do you do to match this in your real the new one the new plane thing?

2:22:02He's done a couple of different planes. Yeah, this is just one of them Oh, you see the string there. Yeah, but they edit it all right in the movie, right? What if the string breaks? Yeah, what if the string breaks? That's right. You can only have so much faith right? Also, if you get hit by a bird right here and gets caled We're falls back and thanks head on the side of that This is a thing that's only for these mission impossible movies But by the way, he's been doing these mission impossible movies forever. Yes, I was listening to an EPM D song the other day And in the things like mission impossible not Tom Cruise It like there was joking around about Tom Cruise being in mission impossible in an EPM D song From like what year was that?

2:22:42Oh, you know, I was saying the rappers 97 do I not know that was his first mission impossible movie? I mean, that's when the lyric came out to the songs called the joint. That's the where it's in I guess Well, what year was the first Tom Cruise mission impossible movie maybe even 9695 if they were right in about oh Oh, I think that's wild that is wild So he's been basically doing mission impossible for 30 years. He's 62 now. Yeah Crazy, but he doesn't do that in the other movies he does Well some of them does he does he do crazy stunts in all of his movies? We're about that I mean the one that lived I repeat that's Yeah, was he doing stunts in those?

2:23:22I mean, I don't know exactly how many of him he did, but he did the Jack Richard too. I was trying to think of two. Yeah, and he also broke his ankle He was jumping from one building to another and it's destroyed his ankle He destroyed, but he actually fucking limped and tried to face the shot. He won't finish the shot Yeah, it's insane. You see his ankle collapse when he hits the wall He's a fucking nut man like a real nut. It's like when you look but you're watching old buster Keaton footage Oh, yeah, the crazy shit that he would do the train or the building how many mission impossible movies are there I think there's 11 is there 11 I think there's like seven or eight seven.

2:23:56Yeah, seven. Yeah So and it all started in 96 is that what you said? Mm -hmm Jesus Christ that guy's been in some fucking banger movie Scientology works for some people it's it's it's interesting that he wants to do All of his own stuff the firm I just rewatched it's fine. I hated the music in the firm so much it took me out of it But that's a pretty I thought that's great film gene hackbim was great. Oh, yeah. Yeah, what does shame? He died me I he's one guy. I never met that I wanted to meet yeah, I would like to met him too. Oh, is he fucking you died bad though? He did but he died kind of the way you want to die just alone and home and was died his wife died first they think Yes, he had we had dementia I think yeah, so I don't even know if he knew she was dead They seem I just been wondering maybe he just wanted around hungry.

2:24:41Oh, boy. I know doesn't matter who you are Yeah, when when the body stops working it doesn't matter how many fucking people love you. It's over Brando was like that like I I love Because he was just so difficult like you got a love a guy who's so good at something that people tolerated I was such a nutty bought an island and moved there. I just Would never acknowledge being a good actor like you? I was interviewed with Connie Chong and she's like you're a great actor And his dog is there because he's a better actor he acts like he loves because he wants food What a great what a good but he meant it like you knew he wasn't like some fucking douchey pose or like he was really this guy Well, that's why he was so good But he was also good before anybody was good He was the first actor that was like acting like a real person yes in movies Whereas like every other actor was like hey stay away from my girl see I can't watch old stuff and look I'll acknowledge I stink I know I stink so I can't judge other people is I'm not gonna judge James Cagney or fucking Cagney's a good example, but you watch them and you're like they were so like Victor mature No, yeah, Tommy.

2:25:48Why don't you cut it out Tommy? Yeah, and then you see Brando. I can't watch the old stuff It's just yeah, it's interacting or something right on he was the first guy that figured out how to be real in a film And James Dean did it as well And then a bunch of other people and now you know, there's a lot of people that do it but Nobody had figured it out, but again, it goes back to that thing where this was a completely new medium Right like it didn't really exist before him, you know, he was like one of the very first Movie stars that figured out how to do it correctly, but there weren't a lot of wasn't a long history of movie stars There's a fairly new thing.

2:26:26Yes, and I've seen footage of his uh his screen test for streetcar name desire And like you would Stanley walks into the kitchen and he's just talking and he's talking to the style I don't know my bed style and he's just moving and grabbing stuff and you watching him and you're like I would never have the confidence In it to just touch and well, I want to see that behave can you find that screen test from streetcar name desire Is that it right there? Hey, let's listen. Oh, yeah headphones. Yes And This is even different to what I would say the one I think it was in the kitchen Maybe it's part of the same one here.

2:27:14He's just put his cigarette out in a fucking bottle. Yeah, hold on go go back to that yeah Action The plastic crack Oh So this is actually real footage though. Yeah, and this is different than the one, but it's interesting to see these are outtakes You You hear the camera yeah But even the way she's looking at him looks old school compared to what he's doing right She's looking at him in a very strange way that doesn't feel like Right doesn't feel real it feels like she knows she's in a movie. Yeah Good looking guy back. Oh, it was a fucking but a pussy machine. Fuck them all too And then he just he didn't like the fact that he's good looking so he became a blimp just eight ice cream.

2:28:34I mean I love that guy He got so big during apocalypse now they had a film in the shadows And he wouldn't acknowledge that because they were trying to make it like Kurt had gotten fat and like was living in the life of And he wouldn't do it. Yeah, just sat there in the shadows. Yeah, what a fucking nut But you know again, it's just there wasn't a lot of people like that You mean How do you not Go crazy he's the only guy and I can't watch Shakespeare I mean, I know he was the great. I just can't watch him and I watched him doing I think you played Mark Anthony Or Julius Caesar and watching him do Shakespeare it like you felt like he's really saying these like you know I mean it always feels so British, you know I was hot for a window break.

2:29:16It just doesn't feel connected to the person right and I watched him I'm like this is like a real guy actually saying this. Yeah, so he's not a person. I've been to watch do Shakespeare There's an art. There's a real arc to acting what it's just done badly so often that we hate most actors Yeah, and it's hard to do and I again There's very few things I give my credit self -credit for but I do give myself credit for recognizing my limitations Yeah in that area. It's been easy to recognize and people have pointed it out, but I understand it It's also not an area that you really concentrated on nor were you drawn to it, you know right?

2:29:48So when you're doing it, you're like how am I doing this? It's like if you get Tom Hanks to do stand up and when he did punchline it was fucking terrible It was what because he wasn't really doing stand up, you know, he's an actor But if you wanted to be an actor if that was your thing, you'd probably great at it Do you know who was I saw they were shooting some of the Willar net I mean Bradley Cooper just directed a movie at the comedy seller Is that him doing Shakespeare in his 29 years old here? Let me hear you guys 29, he's 29 and 53 The noble Brutus had told you Caesar was ambitious If it was so it was a grievous fault and grievous we have Caesar answered it Here and the leave of Brutus and the rest for Brutus is an honorable man So are they all all honorable men come high to speak in Caesar's funeral He was my friend faithful and just to me But Brutus says he was ambitious and Brutus is an honorable man He has brought many captives home to Rome whose ransoms did the general coffers build the distances that seem ambitious When did the poor have cried Caesar had wept Ambition should be made of sranar stuff Yet Brutus says he was ambitious and Brutus is an honorable man You all that see that on the loop of Caliph rice presented him a kingly clown Which he did rice refuse Was this ambition Yet Brutus says he was ambitious and sure he is an honorable man I still know what the fuck he's talking about.

2:31:29Yeah, I don't know either, but I believe him It's powerful. He's locked in he's locked in man and he's really he understands what he's saying Yeah, he understands the words. He's right. I'm just living the words. Yes In his head he believes it when he's saying it and that's that's like the Daniel Day Lewis thing Like when he's playing that crazy guy and there will be blood. Oh, he believes it. I drank your milk Like it's real or when he's in he's locked in crazier's part of that movie is when he's sitting there with the kid And he's petting the boy's head at one point it's supposed to be his son Yeah, and I'm like as an actor to touch a kid like even though you're acting He was petting this boy like the way you would pet your son like It was like he's so comfortable and so in this yeah, you really believe this is his side It was like that was that stuck out for me like the level of comfort you need On a set to do that because I've been on a set with the kid there Everybody's like make sure you don't curse and this guy didn't give a fuck He just picks the kid up so I'm petting his head.

2:32:26Why he's got to be that guy and you know, he would be he's a method guy So to be that guy for months. Have you met him? No, no, I haven't either Gary Olman. I like a lot I mean, which is not exactly a stretch Gary Olman. I think is one of the most uh Versatile have you seen slow horses? No, it's an apple show. It's really good. What is a spy show? He plays a spy Oldman or Danielis oldman It's a new show. Oh, no, it's really good. I haven't watched anything on apple like I I tried to watch the morning show But I didn't love it. Do you see severance severance? It's great season one. I loved yes season two got a little weird It got it almost got a little weird like the way lost did where they were doing things to serve The kind of show that they were right, but I didn't I'm like what does this mean like this is just crazy and weird But they're just doing it like to be Again, I mean I watch it and I probably will watch season three Uh, but season one I liked more.

2:33:22Yeah season one was better. I think there's some shows like that where they the concept is so out there It really has like a finite amount of time where you're allowed to like maintain that yes And then it just becomes we have to get to season again Like lost yeah, lost is the best example because first season it was fucking great It was and the backstory telling like I look at the writing and that and again It was TV. They only had a certain amount of leeway they could do I their backstory stuff was great The writing on you know John Locke and on on Kate and all these people these the way they would tie in their back stories I thought was brilliant But then the way they ended I was like fuck you know Everyone complained about it, but I'm like they missed what they should have you know it's a great fucking story or a great show Rather mobland have you seen mob land on Paramount who is wrecked somebody it was either Colin Or Bobby was recommending mobland fucking great is it it's fucking great.

2:34:14It's a guy richie show It's fucking great who's party. Ah Pierce Pierce Bronson plays the old mobster He's fucking amazing in it. You know you think of Pierce Brosnan you think like a kind of a campy James Bond Not in this fucking really he plays a maniac like a stone cold maniac. It's great She see footage of Tom Hartley. I just saw footage of him still like submitting someone. Oh, he's good black belt right no No, no, he's not black. I think he might be a purple belt. Is he a purple belt or is it blue belt? He competes though I know I just saw footage of them, but he's all fucked up now. He's next fucked up.

2:34:49He's a fucked up Purple belt. Oh, purple belt. He's legit man. Yeah, he's legit. I've watched him compete Yeah, I was like okay, and like Zuckerberg. Lots Zuckerberg's legit. He's real. He gets in tournaments He's very competitive guy. I've seen footage for guys worth 200 billion dollars It's kind of crazy to enter into a local jiu -jitsu match and you know risk getting spiked on your head by a plumber You know Some fucking some plumber who's also a blue belt fucking you know suplex is you on your skull and he recognizes you and his fucking account Just got banned. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's been posting QAnon memes and That he sees you and he thinks it's destiny And by the way, he wore a mask up until the time he's about to compete so they don't know they're gonna come with Zuckerberg until He's in there with them, which is really a mindful it's kind of a huge disadvantage to the opponent Yes, you're like what because especially if you've never been around a famous person before right and also you have to and you're also an amateur because he's an amateur Yeah, so you're all like you're probably like blown.

2:35:51Oh, it's maybe the first time you've ever competed too and you're competing against Zuckerberg It's it but he's he's I think he's a blue belt too, right? I believe so and let's whip out to Zuckerberg Zuckerberg brings in legit people though Like he trains with very very legit book an off ski. I know was training with him. I know he's around Alice style under Yeah, Herrera Yeah, he brings in like Dave Camerillo who's a top -level Brazilian jiu -jitsu black belt he brings him him Able about yeah, he's legit man. He blew his knee to it. Yep. Tor is a ACL. He Wind up getting petai try to talk him out of the type of surgery that he got he got the difficult surgery Which is a patellite tendon graft?

2:36:32I've had both my ACLs reconstructed and my left one was a patellite tendon graft My right one was a cadaver and the cadaver was so much easier to recover from and I told them I'm like do get the cadaver Trust me and his doctor wanted to do the patellite tendon. He wound up doing that It's a long rehab with the patellite tendon But you know the fact that he blew his knee apart and still kept training is pretty impressive as well Yeah, and I'm in that place too like where I have inflamed I'm just trying to get healthy like I've been seeing some guy I don't know if I need surgery, but I'm getting MRIs getting insurance to approve MRIs the fucking nightmare But I want to get my ankle my hip my knee.

2:37:06I'm all fucked up. What's wrong? I've been fucked up for years I've had like my leg goes numb my right leg was going numb in my thigh Um, did you ever get your back looked at I did I have to get I get I'm trying to get approval for the MRI for that But they I twisted my ankle very badly a few times. Uh -huh. Um, how long in town for I'm supposed to come tomorrow Okay, what time tomorrow? When's your flight first thing first flight? Oh Um, I might be able to get you in a ways to well this afternoon Ways to wells the local stem cell clinic. They'll they'll shoot you shoot you up with stem cells That'll fucking help everything does it help?

2:37:40Oh Tremendously tremendously where do they shoot up tremendously right in the injury? Yeah, I got back I got I'm a fucking but I but I feel better now I've been doing these stretches at like the guy that my my physical therapist recommended and I'm going to someone who's gave me some anti -inflammatory pills for a week and I feel a tremendous difference Be careful with those what do they do well depends on what you're taking if you're taking a non -steroidal anti -inflammatory The terrible for your gut your gut biome it destroys your gut biome. Oh, okay It could be really bad. It can actually make inflammation like my friend camhain's he was taking 800 milligrams of ibuprofen every day And I talked to him about I go what you doing what and then I sent him some stuff that ronda Patrick had put out about it I'm like dude get off of that.

2:38:27He got off of it all his pain went away The inflammation was being caused by the fact that he was taking so much ibuprofen It was ruining his gut biome so it was creating inflammation So the combat that inflammation he was taking ibuprofen And he thought the only way he's going to be able to run the miles that he was running was to constantly chew on ibuprofen So he got off of it entirely all the pain went away Totally counterintuitive. Yeah, I've been on these he said one week is all he goes I don't want you to take what is it? I don't remember But he goes I just want to see if it he's trying to see like how severe the injury I want to see if this does help at all But he goes take him for he get him to me for a month because don't take him for more than a week So I like the fact that he's showing restraint he's like well The thing is doctors have a limited amount of tools if you want to Prescribe medication to somebody, you know, whatever the You know what whatever the common practices is what that doctor has to adhere to they can't step out of line And the reality is a lot of that stuff has side effects But there's natural ways that you could deal with inflammation like curcumin, turmeric There's a lot of different, you know, that stuff that helps a lot that's legit and it's not bad for you But a lot of Inflammation comes from diet a lot of it a big factor like I remember I talked to this lady Who was a physical therapist and I had a neck issue and she was like you kind of be amazed if you cut out all the inflammatory foods You're diet how much it would affect it?

2:39:54I'm like really she's like yeah I mean you probably do have a neck injury, but I guarantee it's exacerbated by the foods you're eating She's like cut out bread cut out sugar and see see if it has an effect You know I've tried to because I fattened up and I know it like I put weight on and the again for me it was a dopamine thing I'm not doing the things I used to do right so you need something to do that just like give me a sandwich Something yeah, no, I'm gonna do it on the road. I know that's all right That's what my band of my existence are fucking pretzel like it really is not like I'm eating pizza.

2:40:23I'm not eating cake All that shit is terrible sourdough pretzels. I do all that shit So our bread is fucked and our bread is so fucked if you go and I'm sure you've been overseas you go go eat bread in Italy You don't feel bad at all. No, you know, it's not as bad. Where fucking poison? I'll also play this thing because Brian Simpson sent me this and it's very good But it's all about bread Brian Simpson sent me this and he's like I think I'm done with bread and I was like oh my god like this is kind of crazy Um, do any of my glasses? No, no, no, I'll put it up on the screen. I'm gonna find it though because he sent it to me here it is Cuppies to Jamie Here it is It won't matter if there's World War three, but there's not World War three Probably stay away from bread American bread.

2:41:21You mean eat sourdough bread sourdough bread is fucking great for you But plays from the beginning so we could This guy's gonna explain what's wrong with American bread. I need to be why I can eat bread in Spain and then I can increase Italy No problem What I was gluten free in 15 years I've been gluten free in Canada America Can't eat it that's because in America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe See here in America it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain about 200 years ago We started stripping the brain in germ or the fiber in nutrients to make flour shelf stable Also nutritionally dead because the nutrients were gone We enriched it with folic acid which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize Therefore many people experience fatigue anxiety hyperactivity and inflammation But then the bread wasn't white enough so they bleached it with chlorine gas and the bread didn't rise enough So they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate which has been in several countries like Europe the UK and even China Then we wanted to ramp up production so we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut So now your bloated brain fog tired and blame gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat The real issue is ultra -process chemically altered bleached bromated fake vitamin filled wheat soaked in glyphosate.

2:42:39This isn't bread This is who is that dude? What's his name Danny Durr? Click on click on his so we could give that guy some props Dennis Echo burger echo burger echo burger Danny Danny D and NY underscore Do you are E on Twitter and Instagram? Do you know I will never as I'm watching him do that I will never be able to do anything into camera as well as he just described how shitty bread is Like I was watching him doing like he's getting all the words proper. He's fucking he's giving the information He's not blinking. He's not twitch. He's just not annoying. He's not annoying. Yeah. He's just giving it to you Perfect delivery, but that should be something that everybody should say when I know that when I cut that stuff out of my diet It makes a giant difference also.

2:43:27I should say Joe Derosa who has this amazing sub shop in New York And he's gonna open up one out here in Austin. Oh nice. Joey roses fantastic sub shop Their wheat is all Fallen from Italy. It's all like natural wheat. Ah, yeah, and so their bread doesn't fuck with you And they they make it fresh every day and they throw it out at the end of the day You never have day old bread. It's always fresh and they bake it there So it's like when he's getting bread for his sandwiches It's the kind of bread that you get in Europe. Do you know? I think I have to think you're right because there was one time We had Derosa on the show in was the morning show and he didn't bring us any sandwiches I'm like, where's the fucking sandwiches, Joe?

2:44:08How about a sandwich? He couldn't eat that's what he said Yeah, and I was like fuck him because then he did chip and he brought in sandwiches But we taped in the afternoon. Yeah, I'm like he was telling the truth So it was true was telling the truth about his bread. Yeah, when they they had a pop -up out here at South by Southwest and he brought over sandwiches They're fantastic. They are very good unbelievably good. That is my number one My if I have a vice it is Italian food my my big vice is Sam Italian sandwiches Italian subs pasta lasagna That that stuff gets me. I fucking love it But you have to get it from a place that's using like heirloom wheat and you can find places There's a lot of great restaurants in New York Is great restaurants in LA that use heirloom wheat and you'll eat their pasta and you don't feel bad Most of the bread that you're getting in America is like what that guy described And that's why you feel like shit when you eat it.

2:45:00Yeah, I feel like shit most most of the time when I'm especially like just Always tired. I found the guy whatever. It's the apnea. It's a fucking that you know an old man complaining I just I just I can't breathe when I sleep it sucks If we try to carnivore diet you ever try that No, and I get I know that my fear of eating too much meat is probably unfounded But I now I've done whole 30 which actually I shit your fear. What's the fear? Just like it because no I that does cancer feet on meat. No like like that's what I was always afraid of Cancer feeds on sugar. Okay. Yeah, that's the really the the number one thing that cancer oncologists will tell you When they if they're trying to adjust your diet some don't and it's very infuriating I've had family members that have cancer and their doctor tells them you're gonna go through chemotherapy eat whatever you want Like oh my god don't eat whatever you want like part of what is wrong with you is your diet It's a giant part of your overall metabolic health But a lot of oncologists now will try to get people on a ketogenic diet because it gets your body to burn fat instead of burning sugar And then it starves the cancer.

2:46:08They're also they'll try to get you to do um Some some fasting like intermittent fasting like have a window of feeding where you fast for 16 hours and then eat for eight Or you can only eat during eight the keto diet. I never did it But this is what a delusional idiot. I am when I was in Montreal during the pandemic I by joined Costco and I would go and eat keto chocolates And I somehow convinced myself that I was like oh it's keto But I wasn't doing the rest of the fucking diet right, but they have some actually good shit You can eat if you're on the keto diet. Yeah, I guess you're doing it right.

2:46:41Yeah Yeah, I would go there and buy all these delicious like keto chocolate clusters So yeah, that one I heard it gives you bad breath keto That was what I've heard again. I just I don't remember where I heard it But they were like there's something about ketosis. Fuck you breath up I bet it does. Yeah, I bet it does But just brush your fucking teeth and have a mint. Well, it's a coming from the gut though Yeah, probably is probably ketones ketones smell terrible Have you ever taken a exogenous ketones? I've never even I've heard of ketones. What's an exogenous ketone? You can take exogenous ketones It's ketones that you drink and it puts your body into an instant state of ketosis where your body instantly starts to burn fat And actually is really good mentally I'd like I take exogenous ketones sometimes when I have to perform Where I have to do something so I've taken them before you have sees to you have sees are like the big mind fuck for me Because it's six hours of thinking yes, and I have to think about previous fights I have to like predict techniques.

2:47:37I have to see what's going on And then like we're gonna when it goes to the ground It's kind of like my job is to explain particular submissions when it goes to the ground Especially in the early days before I did it with DC because I was you know the only like when it was me and Goldberg Goldberg's not really a martial artist. So it was just me So I would have to go like explain why someone's in trouble and what's gonna happen? Yes, someone who doesn't understand like a triangle or something like that when someone goes to the ground and You need brain fuel and so ketones help a lot another thing is like I eat these gum These are gummies now alpha brain gummies, but I always take some type of neutropic Neuro gum or this Neuro gum has mints to I'll take these mints like if you see me at the UFC I'll have those I take these little nicotine pouches Anything pins are they what's what they called?

2:48:30There's a word for those little nicotine Oh pouches is in that's right thinking of yeah, these are different. These are from a company called Lucy These are called breakers. Are those those have THNM? No, no, just nicotine. This is all just thinking. No, I mean those the No, no, the gummies are just neutropics Neutropics are like theanine There's like a little bit of caffeine in these and they like one of the things we did with on it we we made This thing called alpha brain which was there's a bunch of different neutropics out there and a bunch of like Acetylcholine a bunch of different things that have shown to have an effect on your memory and so we put together a Group of these that would all work synergistically and then we did two double blind placebo -controlled trials at Boston Center for memory And it showed efficacy it showed that it helped increase increase verbal memory Which is like your ability to form sentences and recall the work the correct words to use reaction time Alpha state and so it's like it does work and it's not just on it because I'm connected to it like I have no Connection at all to neuro gum or neuro -mints right but it works and I tell people about it There's another company called true brain.

2:49:46That's really good. There's another company called neuro one That was the first one that I ever tried That's a that's Bill Romanowski the football player. Oh, yeah, he developed that because he was having memory problems after getting Fucking hit in the head for all those years playing football Didn't I as far as I've ever gone. What was that pill you it's not echinacea There was one pill you were taking that was supposed to be good for memory It was like one of those things you get on the fucking shelf on the vitamin store Um, and I don't remember what it was but I used to take that but I didn't see any hmm.

2:50:14I was taking it on me You were to collective you. Yeah, people take I don't know, but there's a bunch of those things They're real like neutropics. It's a real thing and a lot of people call it snake oil and I understand I understand that you'd be very suspicious But there's a the real and this is one of the reasons why you know like I have a connection obviously to on it We found the company together, but I don't have any connection to neuro brain or neuro one take them They work. There's real legitimate solutions that help your brain function and they don't seem to carry any side effects Some people if they take high doses of some of them get headaches I think that's probably just like Some people react very badly to caffeine some people read you know It's like everybody has their own different biological stuff But try it and the gum is a great one neuro gum is great because it's a delicious gum.

2:51:05It tastes good And it really works man. I take it all the time it helps your brain. Oh, yeah I take it before I go on stage. I chew neuro gum before I go on stage. It's very legit You know what I wanted to take is Danny's got a big bag of it right there and again, we're not connected to them right this is just This is just a stuff that works. I wanted to take because flying became such a again a fear for me again like in this phase in my life I don't fucking need that so I talked to Whitney and she's talking about beta blockers I didn't take them But I got I like do they help at all to like but I have a low heartbeat Anyway, so I don't know if it's gonna fuck me up to take a beta blocker But I beta blockers stop you from getting anxious.

2:51:42Right stop adrenaline They still there a lot of people they get busted using them and like archery competitions allow they they ban them Sure because you know like you're like in the Olympics and you're just trying to hit that bullseye every time like any kind of nerves or jitters It's gonna fuck with you but You know the problem is it's gonna be something that you get You get addicted to or you maybe not even physically addicted, but you you know you become dependent on that's what I don't want I think I've asked they said they weren't but I for flying it's something I like I literally have to fight to do yeah Yeah, I'm getting a little bit better, but I like like anxiety dude I'm a fucking I'm a grownup I have to sit by the window and look at the wing and try I'm really hateable on a plane Fucking six in the morning, but just trying to sleep and I get my fucking fat face pressed up because the window staring at me So I'm trying to get out of here.

2:52:34Well, there's there there are things you know It's another thing that's really good for your cognitive function that a lot of people aren't aware of is creatine and creatine is really good Particularly if you are sleep deprived like there's a study that they did that showed that if you take I think it's 20 milligrams of creatine it has a really positive effect on your ability to maintain normal cognitive function while you sleep deprived really yeah I heard very good for women creatine is especially good supplement for women to take for some strange reason But it's um, you know, it's a muscle building supplement.

2:53:12It's like really good for helping you gain muscle mass and and strength if you were weight training That was what it was initially used for but now they're realizing there's a lot of cognitive benefits. Oh, okay Yeah, I don't take any of that stuff. I probably should at this point I take every day I take nothing other than just like my the little thing for my heart and you know, just you don't take vitamins? No, oh god. I know I probably should I like everything I take B I do take B and I take one other one you should take D for sure you live in New York City You know, you're probably not getting enough Sun.

2:53:44No, definitely. Yeah, D is huge because D is a hormone D is actually a hormone And it's a hormone that your body produces when you get into the Sun the best way to get vitamin D for sure is to be in the Sun But if you're not in the Sun enough One of my friends who's a doctor was in New York City when he was doing his His residency and he said they would do tests on people in New York City And they found that they had undetectable levels of vitamin D in the winter And he was like, you know, this is has a huge effect on your immune system This is the reason why people get like everyone's oh, it's flu season No, it's lack of vitamin D season.

2:54:21That's what it is the flu doesn't thrive in the winter The flu exists in the winter because people have a low immune system in the winter And then they start catching it and giving it to other people But it's really a function of your immune system not working properly So you need D and you should take D with K2 Vitamin K2 and magnesium they all work synergistically together. I'll remember it like hard I will text you and ask you the same question like one of those things because I text me I'll tell you but you should take that but you should also take B you should take B12 You should take C C is huge You can't take enough of it or you can't take too much right C's great.

2:54:59I can take liposomal C It's really good for you. Yeah It's gonna be as you get older man you start thinking like these things are starting to affect me now a little bit Not terrible. I'm still in pretty good health, but Yeah, you start to panic and start to think how old you know 56. I'm 57. I'm almost 58 And my body works great and it's really because of that. It's just as a huge effect I don't skip days and when I do I feel it you know, but I try not to and I have a whole cabinet filled with supplements that I take You know take a lot of vitamins my body's never worked great though So it's not like I don't see any real drop off.

2:55:33Well, that's the problem You know if you're working out and you're doing all these different things and you want your body to function better Just force yourself to do it get your wife to like make you little packets. Yeah, simple You know just lay all the stuff. I need two of these three of these one of those Put it all in a pack is this is mesyl folate put that in there This is and all that stuff has a giant effect on your health it is such you want to you want your body to function optimally yeah, and when I notice the difference is when I eat poorly when I don't get enough sleep And when I don't take supplements I get that I quit drinking like three months ago a little more little more than three months Like nothing you're not drinking.

2:56:13I haven't drank anything in three months. I feel great. Was it hard? No It was super easy. Yeah, it was really easy. Yeah, it was like I just There was too many days where it's kind of hard when you own a club and you're there a lot and you know You're having drinks with friends and they want to drink yeah, I'll have a drink and then the next day I'd be at the jam I'm like oh Feel like shit. Yeah, I'd be drinking all this water and taking all these electrolytes and getting a song on the cold plunge Just trying to get back to normal. Yes, I'm like, why am I doing that? Well in the three months of no drinking I have not had one bad day.

2:56:46I have not had one day where I felt like shit And it just confirmed what I thought I was poisoning myself poisoning myself with fun. I was having a good time Yeah, I was you know, it wasn't terrible. I wasn't an alcoholic. I wasn't drinking and driving or anything stupid But it was a couple of drinks a few nights a week Maybe I go out my wife on date night have a couple glasses of wine It was just at the end of the week. It's like you're drinking eight drinks and that's just not good It's just not good for you. I can't imagine drinking and doing comedy like I again I quit before I started I see guys who are like like I can't because I was not a fun drunk at all I was a fucking Cryer.

2:57:27I was with a fucking Worst no one liked me So I would you go you're like 19 18 or 18. Yeah, you're not even supposed to be drinking back I know and people like it's oh he was too young. He's thinking but it's like I know it now Jimmy The people would love but they wouldn't like me. I was a cutter. I mean who the fuck was that? 56 -year -old cutter I mean how awful is that that's awful So I was it's the best thing I did because I was I was not a fun guy to be around some guys are fun Like someone like Anthony drinks. He's you know times. I wish this fucking Twitter fingers were broken But I wish it was luck as fucking phone, but he is a funny like he's not Usually an angry drunk right it's functional.

2:58:10He's a functional guy. I was never functional. I was vomit I was the phone. I should call the FBI I fucking You know I used to pop bomb threats in my high school. I was fucking crazy. Oh boy. I called I can say now. I mean I called it. Let's see a thread into the White House I probably start I was 30. I was 30. I was 30 and so crazy what a crazy thing to do the Ku Klux Klan I called the fucking Cuz I was like a little lib Jimmy and I read that there was a clan book I read and the guy was like a preacher for the Ku Klux Klan So I called him I looked his number up on 411 back then it was the early 80 wow and I got his name And I called him I was like you fucking racist and he actually talked to me and he was like I got out of the clan.

2:58:52I'm not in that anymore. We actually had a con he actually engaged me Um for about 20 minutes. I had a conversation with it with some Klaner kid. I was 14 years old 15 years old Mid -Aid again, that's a member of Kwan for information. I forget what it's for him for doing that Yeah, forget now. Yeah, getting out and talking to you about that on the phone He didn't have to talk to you about that he could have just hung up. I'm surprised you that because many people did Many I was a I was a fixed the world on the phone. Thank God Do you know Darrell Davis's no Darrell Davis's guy's been on the podcast a couple times and he's a Blues musician is he black?

2:59:29Yes, okay, and he's the guy that would convert yes clan members I know he is yeah, and he gets their costumes they give him their wizard costumes at the end He's just because he's probably a guy who's not and I have seen stuff by him He probably is just a good guy and it's hard to dismiss him because he's not force feeding you exactly It's hard to dismiss anybody when you're just when you're not no one wants to be messaged that right right right I don't I can't in stand up. I can't even do it like my job is not to convert people I want you to know what my life is. I hope you have some respect for it like I'm just living the way I want to live yeah, and I'm not out to tell other people they have to feel this way right Because no one wants to be a message that nobody it doesn't work.

3:00:12It's not effective. It's it's it was effective I'd probably do what's effective is what Darrell does he just shows you like this is a good man I must be wrong if I think that all black people are evil right this guy's Like become a good friend you have him over for dinner and then the guys like I'm telling you right now I'm getting out of the clan because of you and he did it like 200 different people on a one -on -one basis where he gets to know them And getting beyond it's like we talked about before like anytime somebody is an asshole publicly But when you meet them and you realize oh, there's a person here like it's the way people are supposed to communicate And this is what I think is so terrible about social media I said there's too many people are just become so accustomed to barking at people just barking out into the abyss Yeah, I have to stop myself from doing it There's been times people have tweeted something and I want to make like a country remark And I'm like shut up dummy.

3:00:57They're not talking to you exactly mind you fucking business I really do say that to myself mind you business you fucking hen You know what I see people do it I think that guy's mentally ill like you're engaging with these people you're yelling at these people onto it You're mentally ill. Yeah, like I don't care what other people like I care people think about me in the sense that I want Something I'm funny and I want them to love course. We all to be like But I don't care what people's opinions on the Middle East. I don't give a shit like I'm gonna change their opinions And I don't need them to agree with mine like I have enough confidence in my own brain Yeah, and not always right, but I'm always comfortable in my opinions And I'm not afraid of somebody I'm okay being wrong too, right like I don't need a I don't need the power of agreement from somebody.

3:01:36It's just Good for you, but it's only because I've tried it my life. It hasn't worked. Right. It doesn't make you happy when you get it No, it only makes you angry. It doesn't work. It's not as a terrible way to communicate. Yeah, it is Jimmy. I love you to death. I love you to Joe. Thank you, buddy. It's great to see you. Yes, sir Tell everybody. Yes, uh, the special is called Unconceivable. I kept forgetting the name and it's not a misspelling. Unconceivable is actually a word in English language And it does kind of fit and the podcast is Jim Norton can't save you both are on at Jim Norton comedy at YouTube Um, and I'm really happy with this special like good nice I would say that anyway.

3:02:12I'm not gonna come up here and shit on my own special. I'm not that self -destructive But I actually really was happy with this beautiful. So I hope you like it. All right. Thanks, pal. Bye everybody You