#2351 - James McCann

29:32Yeah was never taken into consideration Well, they said I mean certainly with COVID they didn't take it into account Well, they've had people on weak people the thing is you got to look at it from a profitability standpoint I know this is super cynical and sounds disgusting But if you have a actual disease that you can prescribe medication for yeah, that's valuable Yes, if you have a bunch of people that are doing something that's super healthy that's killing them And you don't have a solution that's not valuable. Well, they figured it out with fat people They've got the ozemic people are just on the ozemic forever But you know ozemic is like number one most profitable medication in the country.

30:08I mean I believe it But what is that true? Did I make that up? I think that's true. They're all doing sometimes I see things on TikTok And I was like this is China for some of them look great. Oh, yeah, I mean I know people on a zimpy cua They're spiraling depends on you doing it. No Never Nope, not no way. I'm a comfortable level of fat And America no one has ever called me fat. No, you're straight. You're at this body all the time really? Yeah They're all fucking healthy over there. You guys got to hike everywhere. I think the food is better for sure I think I've for sure. I became lactose intolerant when I came to America Uh, because I had raw milk and then I Fomented green bile for a couple days you ate raw milk here.

30:49I had like a gallon of raw milk in a day So raw milk not Pastorized not from the farmer's market the guy looked really strong and healthy. I don't want that cool right? I gave you lactose intolerance. I don't know I like the milk so much. I like to believe it wasn't that that it was maybe you just directs day too much of it I think I got some sort of weed back theory, but I was yeah, oh green bile both ends really yes That's right right now you're destroying the raw milk industry. I'm still handed. I would like it also It was the most beautiful milk I've ever had Yeah, I don't want to be negative about raw milk if you can have it and it doesn't do that to you Oh, I think you have the raw milk.

31:26I have it's like drinking a secret. I think raw milk should be like raw meat leave me alone Leave me alone. I know how to cook your steak right. Yeah, you don't you don't tell me how to cook your steak You let me buy raw milk. Let me buy it. Yeah, if you let me buy raw meat Let me buy raw milk shut the fuck up now. Are you saying that it's killing people? Okay, where's your evidence? And is pasteurization and homogenization which does make it more shelf stable and It make it so that you could you know you can keep it in the refrigerator for a long time and it's still fine You know has a expired by date.

31:59Yes raw milk goes bad quick So should you drink the bad raw milk? No, definitely not But is there anything this is probably not how much you should have super beneficial about drinking the raw milk Well, there seems to be a lot of evidence as long as it doesn't have bacteria in it Okay, well, how do you prevent that well? I feel like we can do that So this I don't think this solution is especially will regulated at the problem. That's the problem. I bought it from a guy's muddy van Oh, yeah, and then as I was vomiting and she didn't I was like this doesn't feel natural You got to get it from a reputable farmer, but if you don't get it from a reputable farm thing There's like a whole web site list where you can find raw milk because people are raw milk nuts Yeah, which is also what turns me off to raw milk the raw milk I with for about six hours.

32:41I thought I had the greatest inside anybody had ever had this is the special milk We should all be having until it started blowing out your body maybe just drink too much I did everyone else in the family was fine My wife my kids they had a little bit they had a little bit yeah I mean if you drink too much anything you'll get diarrhea and think about like how much you're you're dealing with how much like milk fat and How much liquid you can get diarrhea just from that I've a diced on the milk. Yeah, that's I wouldn't never have milk problem before then on the past rise milk So now you have a milk problem now so I shit Every time or a big heavy weird so it gave you lactose intolerance it happened I like the milk so much.

33:22I don't want to blame the milk. So I will say it happened at the same time. Okay, so is It's calm but from then on are you getting lactose intolerant every time you drink raw milk or regular milk regular milk Maybe okay, maybe my body got used to the beautiful rule milk when I only have a little down my I'm selling that to the wife. We're getting the rule milk back in the house. Yeah, that might be it dude I know that sounds crazy, but that might be it like your body might Prefer real milk and now that it knows real milk. Yeah, it's like fuck you with this boil was Had him with the bread, but I think this happened.

33:56I mean something something's happening with the bread in America It's like like hands feel swollen. I don't personally have any problem with homogenized and pastroized milk Like when I drink it it doesn't make me feel bad. I don't feel great, but I'll will do it if I have a cookie some milk But oh cookies in milk. Yeah, but I don't think that you should be able to tell people that they can't sell raw milk I think you should tell people if you're gonna sell raw milk It has to meet some certain standards sure you have to have certain standards of how you cool it What you're doing making sure everything's clean everything has to be inspected But they do that with other stuff.

34:30That's what's USDA inspection I'm definitely put together by big business to crush small people But they do it that way anyway with me. Yeah, this is my point. Yeah There's USDA inspections. They have to make sure that the processing place is clean everything is supposed to be And even then they still do the like you know for like a burger used to be one cow And they'd grind that bit up and that's like a thousand cows coming together Right. I don't think there's laws against that right. I think I don't I think that if you the cow thing is a weird thing Like when and you're getting burgers that have like a thousand cows.

35:01Yeah, and it is a weird thing But I mean it is just meeked right? It's I think those standards are put there by the big corporate like I was thinking about Like housing zones and district thing like in Australia the median house prices are million dollars You just you can't buy no one of my generation is buying a home. It's a weird There's so much land there's a lot of stuff you should just be able to like whip up a slum with the with your bros You go to a valley where no one is you're all living a that would be better to some extent Rather than like renting and a horrible thing forever you go used to be able to just like build a horrible Thing you know, there was no building regulations sometimes a ceiling would collapse and people would die But so you think that's better to have no regulations?

35:46I yeah really yes, but that's how like stadiums collapse on people in third world countries. No doubt bad things will also happen No, that's a dumb idea. I'm saying no regulation. I'm gonna walk back no regulation Okay, but it would be nice if the regulation was somehow written Just with the safety in mind and not so that I mean they're insane like there are buildings up now that are perfectly safe That wouldn't pass code if they were built today you couldn't build them again now Why wouldn't they pass code because they do things like you know the door has to be this far away From the stairs the ceiling has to be this height that and he's eight fire beeping Detectors, yeah, in the same way that you know like you can't cut hair without getting a degree You need like a certificate to be a hairdresser and they go this is to make hair cutting Safer but like people were cutting hair without All right folks something specials about to happen in the big easy ufc 318 is coming to New Orleans and it's absolutely stacked Draft King sportsbook the official sports betting partner of the ufc has all the action you need We're talking hollow way versus porier the trilogy the bmf titles on the line But more than that.

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38:09I think you should go back to the houses. Oh, come on If you want to save lives you you want houses that you can escape in a in the case of a fire and if you don't Absolutely if you don't hold the builder accountable the person who's making that house even if they're making it for themselves They will then sell that house to someone else most likely and that person will not be in a house that's Necessarily the safest it could be it just makes sense it would result in big problems It makes sense to but it makes sense no no no no no no I you you have to be listen Oh when I was a kid I grew up in construction sites my father was an architect my stepdad was an architect Yeah, when I was real young I got to see like real shitty construction how dangerous it is when people like fuck around Don't follow code.

38:57Yes. Why how many like shady guys do a bad job? How many people try to like use lesser materials than they're supposed to be used It's constant and if you don't have regulation you you put people's lives at stake I don't think the house has the same problem with regulation here because you guys seem to be able to build houses Like houses. Well, we have a lot of regulations though like that's a little regiant It's a giant way of contention with people There's a way to do it in a way that is just to help industry make house prices stay high Well, that's true too Both things can be true. I think there's definitely people that take advantage of regulation And there's definitely people that most likely stifle other businesses growth Through promotion of regulation.

39:42Yeah, that's probably true too But also like for some stuff like for safety stuff in homes you fucking need regulation because if you sell it to my mom And she doesn't know how to think works and then the house catches on fire This would also be bad. Yeah, it's just do it the right way. They know how to do it the right way People have established a system now. There's a bunch of shit that's arbitrary that gets aesthetic and I'm not in favor of that Yeah, when people get to decide what you know the front of your house should look like or what color you painted I mean you can make something safer forever though and there's no limit.

40:13There's no like There's no zero that you can reach of safety Yeah, but yeah, but it comes apart where the effort goes up to the extent where it's not No, but you hit a reasonable level and then you stop and that's what the regulation we never stop I mean, I think with drivers licenses you should have some Uh, test for competency to drive a car. Oh, 100 % should be something. Yeah, but when I mean when in Australia when I was trying to get my license I was like 27 because it took forever like You got to get a hundred hours registered. You got to do a weird test. I got a driver's license in Ohio where I don't think road fatalities That much higher than the rest of the well, and then you know you get in the car you drive around the block the guy goes You know how to operate this vehicle We're gonna say it's not gonna cost you know a thousand dollars and yeah, it's more straightforward.

40:55There's like There's a balance to be gotten to be gotten Ryan and I think you're 100 % right. I really should America that you're Closer to the freedom side of things Definitely must more than Australia's and you got to see that during the pandemic too But the the thing is like There's a difference between over regulation and Wild west, right? There's like a fine line. There's like a there's a comfortable middle And I think that middle has to be fought for because I think it really is important Have people that are actually experts that their jobs to make sure that someone builds a house correctly go and look and make sure you do But then again You open the door the possibility that inspector guys a douchebag and then he's got a chip on a shoulder And he's got a big fucking ego and people bribe him and you know There's there's always a possibility of that kind of stuff happening too Where people love to have control over people do love to tell you can't build They love to tell you to you got to repaint your house because it's the the color doesn't match our community How do you check that?

41:59How do you like what is the other than like everyone having a gun and getting ready to No, well, no level of violence in the ocean. You got to fight back Before they ever get to that point. It's real hard to regain ground Once someone takes ground with like ridiculous legislation like look They've been trying to legalize weed in this country for fucking 50 years and it's they barely put a dent in it I don't know how they go in these little They've only done it on a state level But the point is it's like once you lose Rights you like if they tried them if marijuana was legal just like alcohol and also they tried to make it illegal People would ride in the streets.

42:33It's like what are you doing? You can't do that because it wouldn't make sense People would be furious, but once it's done even if it's the same exact situation the same exact data The same exact safety profile the same exact number of people using it in the country. Yeah, well It's just it's been it's been fucked because it got put into this weird position You guys you got prohibition somehow You got alcohol Taking off the streets for yeah, but it was it was bad bad and it lasted a long time and it led directly into marijuana prohibition Yeah, same exact people you just need to find something to have prohibition against how about car to help prohibition How about that?

43:12You know how about fentanyl don't stop thinking about things But then you you find out like oh wait a minute wait a minute. There's a lot tied to this It's like the alcohol lobby doesn't want marijuana to be legalized Yeah, so they fight against it and they get politicians that are on their side. Hey Ralph You're gonna vote for this issue on our side right away Ralph came of Ralph Ralph Nida no, no, not that guy. He doesn't do that But you know that's that's part of the problem too man It's like there's a lot of money involved in keeping it illegal and she's like Jesus Christ At least you can have I think America's one of the only countries that primaries You can actually like get into a political party and if there's enough will you can do something you don't really change what you Allow it for the Democrats to primary for the last election there was not even presidential level them or uptight But on like They got the super delegates and they got the secret emails and it's not good But the fact that you could even have a system to fuck up Is I think you need to like in in Britain with the party picks who the person is and if you're in the party You get a huge benefit.

44:16Oh, yeah, you can't have like a grassroots You can't have like the branch of the party go we're putting forward a guy who's we're gonna primary somebody You really can primary people in America. Yes, you can't sort of but not for president No, not last time I and they they don't let certain people into primaries like they're keeping RFK RFK junior out of the primaries. Yes, and then running as an independent is very bad But that's not good. I'm gonna say you're living up to it. I'm not saying you're living up to the standards there But you're also the only ones who there's even like people go we should be able to do it People wanted Trump to lose so badly they were willing to throw democracy out the window That's kind of what it is.

44:53I mean kind of what it is If you if that was coming from the Republican side people would have been outraged to do it in the name of democracy was very weird Wild and then also I remember one of the Orwellian it's like my first week here There was a Biden speech where he was talking about how like violence has no it was like to happen on about January six and stuff And he was saying violence has no place in the American system But then the example he gave was the American revolution like I think that gets you're meant to have I think Benjamin Franklin wanted everyone having an armed uprising every like 12 years or something to wipe the slate clean.

45:26Yeah, you're meant to that's part of democracy Ah, do you know about Castro? What about him? I've just I've been a big Wikipedia wormhole about Castro I didn't know that he hit that he was a communist He till he he wasn't a communist or he kept that quiet He was like a middle class revolutionary and then his brother was a commie But he was like he didn't come out and say he was a communist until later and CIA helped him I've been reading Castro's CIA helped him take a look like the CIA might have been and then towards the end they said we got to get out of this This is no good They really they changed horses They're really involved on both sides, but they were Do we do that everywhere?

46:05There's one Aussie there's one Aussie that you might have done Uh, golf Whitlam might have been taken out by the CIA Geez now he was uh he was also a problem and people were quite happy to have him go but the governor general man Bro, I don't have to go into too much detail is look at that pine gap you have a military base in Australia and he wanted to like Get rid of it or get off American energy subsidies or something and all of a sudden he was removed oh boy And we haven't rocked that boat again. We are so good at that yeah between us and the Israelis The Israelis do the wildest assassinations like did you see the one of them that they did with the Iranian generals?

46:45Let's see make sure that this is true. Jamie. I can get my visa removed for criticizing his realm No, no, no, it's this is this is not a secret I'm impressed by their beautiful assassinations This is not this is not a criticism This is saying like this is one of the most gangster things I've ever seen in my life They made a fake phone call to all these military leaders and said everybody's got to meet at the bunker Then they blew the bunker up. That's a very good fighter Then it's gangster as far yeah, and then you add that to the pages They send pages out like didn't they send them out like a long time in advance.

47:16Yeah I think so and they got in on the supply side of it like they made the pages I Mean you think about how incompetent some forms of our government are yeah, and then how good they are at killing people that they want dead It's like to do that pretty impressive midwest that would be right. I know right That same level of it. Well, that's not C. I that's the facade, but that's the same level of intent or the idea for whoever does it over in Israel But the same level of intensity with other things you could dominate the world I mean we could get a train going we could find actual fix it high -speed rail in Texas.

47:55I believe in it Imagine if they took that same kind of ingenuity and try to fix poverty in America Brian Simpson said a good he was on stage for bottom of the barrel and he knocked like someone knocked the barrel over The male had to pick it up and he goes that's the one thing that could go wrong We should really fix that we're never going to that's like America. We have the resources to make sure that never happens And we won't Yeah, no we won't but it's we put all of our effort into making shit that kills people quicker That's like the most amount of money the most amount of effort Other than like consumer goods.

48:27I would say also sport. Is it some weird very high level here because that's war It is try it is very militarized society everyone's getting ready to Yeah, I yeah, I mean football is just military strategy. Have you ever seen Serbians play basketball? Uh, yes Yeah, I've seen clips of that since clips of clips of Serbia get together Serbian crowds play basketball. They're big If that should done feel like war the way the crowd is responding Yeah, cheering the fucking enthusiasm like dude. I watch it all the time just for inspiration The only guys other than black guys who can compete in It's the only white who are contributing to basketball at this point is the Yugoslavian Giant whites from a war like culture.

49:10Yeah No one else sometimes knows he gets through we've had like two Aussies break Serbian fighters are terrifying dudes from like the caucus region like all the guys are like daggers and had it for Georgia Animals I couldn't get it to work dude someone just printed something or posted something about the UFC's top pound for pound list and Six of them are from the caucus region Six of them that seems high Sometimes that's like a genetic like all the like marathon runners tend to be from one mountain Kenya Yeah, like people go black people are good at marathon running But then when you bought it down it's like okay, but 90 % of them are from Kenya And then 90 % of those people are from one mountain in Kenya with like the air is very thin So they've adapted it's a book called taboo which is about race difference in The in like all sports uh -huh, and they break and they're like you're this likely to You know, you can't be a white corner now.

50:12There is one I think but like Where that there are it's very rare. It's very strange and some of its social stuff. But a lot of it is Uh, they could I was really thinking about Mexicans Can't get knocked out that's not true. No, there must be some but there's like some gene that is very common in the Mexican population That makes it less likely that you'll be knocked out. What really? I think that's why They have lots of boxes. I'm I'm I'm half from everything I read on Wikipedia late at night Wouldn't that be crazy if they have such a history of boxing that boxing is somehow another gotten into their gene to have strong chains look at this Yeah, right the chicken in the air.

50:49Am I right? Any connection to Mexican men the specific gene ACTN3 saw video and how Mexicans are so good at boxing Mexicans produced 209 champions. That's pretty incredible video explains how Mexicans supposedly have a gene that has the ACTN3 Which determines endurance and or strength one or the other I was wondering is there any truth to this What's the answer? This is about what I need to believe something is a reddit post from four years ago Uh, if you if you look down there is this just one person's post does someone answer them? Well, I didn't want to get into the answers because you never know that's where like his point you never know where this goes Right, I was just gonna start there and then start Let's find out if there's yeah anything to that it's fascinating But I would wonder because if like you think about like the history of boxing.

51:35Yeah boy Mexico has such a history of boxing and also there's a high level poverty So whenever there's a high level poverty this sports where you don't need a lot of money to play them Soccer's one yeah Boxing's another one you just need gloves and you could just fuck around and guys be good If I'm get so these I was doing a bit about this and I could never get it to like really fly But like Kyrgyzstan they have a wife wrestling You wrestle a woman into a van if you want to marry a woman in Kyrgyzstan you like today Yeah, they call it Alek Kachu Alek Kachu and there's a big Wikipedia page on that But you got to get this lady in the van against her will and then once she gets in the van she's so ashamed that she Marries you oh, but like the one sport they're good at at the Olympics is women's freestyle wrestling They're great at that So what came first the medals of the event did they have to get good at wrestling because men kept putting him in vans Or they so good at wrestling the men were like let's let them show off their beautiful skills That's a really good question I would imagine They were fending off men for a long time.

52:36They had a developed technique. I Schema was a horse before it was a van Jesus you can wrestle because they only got the van quite light There's no way anyway. That's one day. I'm gonna make that fly. That's it. It's a part of your culture. Oh, you know Jesus Yeah, bride kidnapping Jesus Christ Yeah, there's a lot of vice we are breaking the law sis Mediev Everyone understands the tradition and you can't change it Wow, a member of a local government a small village outside of curgs capital. How do you say that? Bishkek Bishkek you think this is good as mine, but everyone here understands as a tradition and you can't change it.

53:14Oh, okay Mediev kidnapped his wife El Maira more than 10 years ago. He's one of many curgs men Who have gotten married through the central Asian practice of broad kidnapping and they go like 80 % of the time it's Consensual like they organized but then 20 % of the time you're just wrestling a woman into a van against their will So there are consensual kidnappings where two people know each other and it's kind of role playing There's full on off the street abductions Unfortunately, they both look the same you really want to say for it for them Whoa, it can be hard to tell if the girl you see Crying for her mom and clawing at the faces of her doctors is merely acting at her part For her boyfriend and his family's sake or is actually on her way to being married against her will like what the fuck very important That'd be able to tell the difference I would say I don't want to pass judgment on the people's kugas stamp This is the thing about the world if you go back like Seven thousand years ago.

54:12It was all like that You can go back to a hundred years ago and everyone that was foot bonding in China They're having beautiful doing it didn't know they can't still be binding the faith Photos of it they still foot binding in China. I mean, I don't know how widely practice it is their older ladies Yeah, I know when they stopped But I don't think it was that long ago like there's people that are alive right now that have those well I'm for it. You don't want some filthy peasant foot on your wife you want a humble Great But keep those socks on they do I was reading the best those feet are weird they look like they fold it in on the Not so painful to walk right when it must touch I think it's Cameroon they do chestbind like they they flatten the woman's when she starts getting breast They like you flatten the breast But what's weird is that it's the Christian progressive people who are doing it Because the culture is once a woman has breasts she has to get married and just to come out of school So because you love your daughter you iron the boobs down so that she doesn't have to get married for a couple years isn't that funny?

55:12Jesus Christ I love it. They should put it into it Oh last shoe factory making lotus shoes closed in 1999 Wow, it could be some Michael Jordan lotus shoes Lotus shoes. Oh my god So when did this start? 1200s or something like those wow the 12 hundred Ladies look at that ladies foot look at that that is so crazy. I just see I just see beauty I just see I see painful pinky toes. How is that lady ever gonna take like an aerobics class? Look look how it's become the part of the bottom of her foot. That's so crazy How badly does that fuck with your back? It's so big on that screen. I'd never seen that before bro Those feet are busted up, but the commies stand that out mostly I think they're probably you can't work No, you got to be yeah, you can't Partake in the great glorious revolution all the lotus shoe they are beautiful shoes It's so crazy you can't buy them It's right to shop you never know I have the sink.

56:20No, that's a brand name. That's a brand name You walk into your house to OJ Simpson merchandise and foot band lotus shoes That's what I've heard is pretty good That's hilarious what a fucked up practice Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, what about the one where women put plates in their lips? Oh plates in the lip the neck extension I love the ring neck extension the ring neck extensions don't even make sense like How does that work? Like if you take it off will your head fall off like do you have any muscles? Do you have any muscles left to support your head? I would data like you have to keep that on for the rest of life I don't think they're meant to be that long No, I think that's bro.

57:00That's fucking insane. That's insane Just one guy saw a giraffe and they were like can we do that? So is this at a Photoshop is that Photoshop? It's the same person in multiple photos. That's really legit But that's not but there's a young lady doing it. Okay, that can't be real. That can't be real That lady's head is 15 -30 That's like that last one's like AI Poono for neck guys Bro, that's so dark. That's so weird Like I don't like that at all. Yeah. Oh don't show me Oh They just keep in pile on those things on and fit in them Yeah, what a weird thing to do to your neck man. That's got we do we start we inject lips bro That's crazy.

57:42She's got a towel under her chin But they could be watching it being like you know in America if they chop off a little boy's penis and they turn it into a pretend vagina Isn't that second wrong? Well, they probably do that there too and that's true with them That's a very important part of our culture. I wonder if they do do it You know, I had someone in the green room was saying the other day the reason why there's so many lady boys in Thailand was because being homosexuals illegal Is that true? Isn't it legal everywhere? But this person that said it is just they said it in passing. Yeah, I don't know if it was true And I was I meant to google it and I totally forgot until now.

58:18Yeah, I mean it could be I'm pretty sure it was illegal all over the place and no one else was doing that No, no said that that's a particular reaction Well, you know, that's the the thing about um What is that? Turing Alan Turing. Yeah, Alan Turing was the guy who invented the Turing test And he was gay and they yeah, they fucking poison them. They gave him like hormone blockers It was just because he was gay. Yeah, there was so many gay British guys though Yeah, but he was like a long history of like Oscar Wilde everyone knew he was gay and it was only when he went after a guy's son that I think they went Oh, yeah, I think he went after a guy's young son Well, they could always target you for it though if they want to get you for something else They will yeah, they use that but I think Byron was off, but he was like hospitalized Legality of same sex activity private adult consensual and non -commercial Sodomy was de - was decriminalized in Thailand in 1956 However, same sex attraction and transgender identities were still seen as socially unacceptable in many cases Those that gender expression or behavior falls out of social norms are less likely to be tolerated or accepted So what happened?

59:29Just this year the they've allowed same sex marriage And never allowed adoption from this year But uh, it's very light to it because I think a lot of gay couples have been going there to get children for a long time I know they're saying you can have them here That's a big That's not spoken about is the The rent a womb and that's kind of bizarre. I'm against it. It's very strange the idea of a surrogate is very odd Like you're having a baby, but it's not really you having the baby like okay I get it if someone can't have a baby the couple wants to have a baby the higher a surrogate I get it. It's your genes.

1:00:05It's your baby But it's still it's like but also this I mean, I know Elon has like a lot of kids with different ladies But then I mean, that's the public one. He's like a pup one of the only public facing billion is there's got to be guys out there who are like I'm getting I'm getting 10 ,000 kids. I'm like Take my calm and move it across. I'm gonna be genghis Khan with science. Well guys have done that that are doctors They just put their own come and there's a big there's a bracket case in Adelaide with one of those guys There's maybe a thousand siblings in Adelaide my hand. Oh man Every time guys get a chance they do it Circusy is a long history dating back to ancient times the real examples found in Babylon in the Bible while traditionally involved natural conception Modern surrogacy including artificial insemination and in vitro fertilization has been developed through scientific and legal advancements Okay, but the thing is it's like they're just playing with words Hold on let's go back because they're saying surrogacy For someone having sex with something and getting them pregnant and have a baby.

1:01:06That's not surrogacy You got a pregnant with that's a mistress you yeah, you got another lady pregnant. That's all that is So what we think of his surrogacy is you taking an embryo and inserting it into another woman's womb, right? Yeah That's a completely new thing and I think that's where it's weird It's coming in like wives of soldiers the other ones like an agreement like if the wife can't get pregnant But she wants to have a baby and she says listen if you fuck my best friend She'll have the baby and then we'll take care of the baby. Yeah, and I know that I can't have babies But you you know if that's if you guys are That kind of swingers and you're down with that and that's that's up to you that feels different from the science Not surrogacy.

1:01:49Yeah, you just had a baby with a different human. No sorry. It's surrogacy seems right bad and wrong I'm I'm I'm digging in well bro. It's gonna go to artificial wounds All right, that's gonna be the new one and whether that's 20 years now or 50 years now You're gonna be able to make a baby outside of a human body. It's gonna get real freaky We got to be we got to draw a hot one pull this up. I was the IVF thing. Yeah, we're thought. I'm a little stone thought It's not possible how Jesus was born was it they didn't have any sort of way saying that I Listen back to an IVF baby. Just like forgot about it could be could be the day how that technique tell me it was the Holy Spirit I'm just I know I know what they say.

1:02:28I'm just but like yeah Well, well for sure they could have um inserted sperm in tour Without her every having sex they could have impregnated. I think there's like dolphins that can do it if dolphins are on their own for a long time then an egg Can fertilize another egg? What doesn't happen often, but there are examples of it really? Yes That's nuts. I think I believe that I've read that You sure I've said that loudly and confidently at a party before Pam it might have been that sounds good crazy that a mammal could do that Dolphins don't like Yeah inside of them they can so happy I think it's like a couple examples of auto insemination So it's like one of the eggs has so much jizz in it that it leaks out you get a very good a very butcher egg Yeah, you get trans egg you get maybe one of the eggs is male and it just jizzes on the other egg You know, it's an early developer.

1:03:22Yeah, it just like comes out of maybe jizz is like in some of them out of the box I think there's virgin birth in nature. It's not common Well, there's a lot but definitely these animal switch genders that the animals like especially like primitive reptilian type fucking weird animals. Yeah, they can There's certain animals that can switch their genders. I think see who ladies have a penis I think so I get that you know hyenas have a penis females. No, I didn't know that bigger than the males Which is for sure? No, they dominate the males that they're bigger than the male. Yes Female tie hyenas they're one of the rare matriarchal mammals So the females are bigger than the males.

1:04:05Yeah, they have more testosterone than the males and they have bigger decks And they hold the males down. Yeah, you want some of this pussy and then the male has to take his little dick and stick it inside of her big dick What about the big and that lady dick just slapping against his belly? Yeah, you want to hear him worse 60 % of all hyenas that are born suffocate to death during childbirth Coming out of that dick because they're coming out of the dick. Uh -huh. The vaginas on the tip of the dick. No, it's it's really of a giant Come on. It's a vagina, but it's like a wall. Can we see the high net?

1:04:38Oh, it's it's bananas. It's a bananas. I want it because I It's called they call it like a faux penis. I think last time Shane came on here. I think you guys were talking about the trans penises And then he just kept texting me the trans penis. He's horrible. He's horrible. He's horrible. I'll wake up in the middle of the night It shows you these skin graft scars and you're like what am I looking? Why is it so much bigger than mine? Why can't you have a humble penis? I've got to say wow Yeah, all right, so female hyenas have this giant fake dick and Ah, yeah, it's huge. They have to put their pain that the boys have to put their dicks in exactly And that's how the babies come out of that a lot of the babies die on the way out.

1:05:17We've got to destroy all the 60 % I think I think that's the number Make sure that that's the correct number. I'm pretty sure it is. I think it's the high -end of people will be furious 60 % suffocate During childbirth and then on top of that like then they fight over who gets the nipple and some of them get killed That's why they sell unhappy all the time. Oh the lion king They're just in the most ruthless environment and they're not the biggest animals All right, yeah Mother dies Jesus Christ that's crazy Got eyes out she imagined 80 % of the women dying because the they're giving birth Yeah, 60 % of all spotted hyena cubs Dying the early stages of life especially from the first litter some scientific observations place a survival rate a firstborn Cubs at around 40 % or less Wow Cibblosides huge Cibblosides very huge they they fight to the death over like little nipples And like stepdads I not come will in the end.

1:06:25Well, that's also why female hyenas I think are bigger I think they're ticked. Yeah, I think they're there to because the men hyenas are bitches and the men probably eat the babies Because that happens in other communities like that happens in bears In the bear world female tigers or female bears rather we do the reason why when you stumble upon a female Bear yeah, she's ready to fuck you up like this the worst thing that can happen in the woods you stumble upon a female bear with their cubs You're in real trouble if you stumble upon a male and you might you might he might not have any interest in you at all But if you stumble if you're too close to the cubs if like she is In front and the cubs are behind and you're behind them.

1:07:07He's run away You know bro, you might not have the time she might just come for you And you can't do a goddamn thing about it because she's dealing with male grizzlies eating her cubs Yes, all the time. So she's always on 10 I mean if we go to you set your simmities should we bring a gun You shouldn't go off trail. Okay, sure. All right. You shouldn't go off trail You should definitely bring bear spray if you're any but yo semity is in California, right? I fucked this up before yellow stone has the grizzlies. This Wyoming. Yo semity has the black bears Black bears generally aren't as dangerous.

1:07:43Okay, this grizzly bears. I think grizzly bears in California. No, there's not even though It's the flag the state flag. Yeah, it's the bear on the flag flag. Miss let me let me well. They killed Too many people and they killed them all but they've got coyotes still running around. Coyotes Not really kill people though. They kill your cats and dogs. All right. Mountain mines occasionally kill people But grizzlies were killing a lot of you guys have way more animals that kill people than we do. Oh, yeah for sure People talk about our animals a lot. We got a snake and we've got a spider. Nope that you want to watch out for you got saltwater crocodiles Mother fuck yeah, but if you stay away from the crocs, what are you talking about?

1:08:17You just keep away from fun North Queensland But they are yeah, but you so you have to avoid a whole part of your country because it's infested by monsters We were happy to give that well up to the Japanese We made a deal that if the Japanese invaded we'd let them have the saltwater crocodile part of the country Have you seen is Bob Cater? This is like our best clip From a politician he's talking about gay marriage and he turns it into talking about crocodiles. No Ah Bob Cater crocodile is my favorite He he wins his fine -off Queensland seat every year. He's not in any party, but he's like I'm Yeah, let a thousand blossoms bloom.

1:08:51Oh, yeah I mean To the sexual For cleanliness, you know, I mean Let there be a thousand blossoms blooms far top concern You know what I ain't spending any time why don't because in the meantime every three months A person is taught the pieces by a crocodile in North Queensland He's the man He needs more power in our government every three months. That's just how he's a person is torn apart by a crocodile in North Queensland Yeah, true. I believe it. Yeah Well, there's a lot of you know what people there's a lot of Every they come into the ocean as well. Okay, why they swim out of the woods. I want you to imagine us Yeah, what if every three months someone got killed by a werewolf would you still go out at night?

1:09:41Yeah Yes, I would every three months someone gets killed by a werewolf in your town I mean how many people are done on the roads every day. I understand, but there's something uniquely terrified about getting eaten The crocs never got Steve Owen. That was the that was the rise some more upset by the rise Well, he had to handle the crocs. What's that four deaths since 2020 and nine non fatal times? Oh First bullshit, but that's not something you can you just didn't die you got ripped apart though nine Yeah, but that's not three. That's not like what he was saying It's come down he was about He said three a month.

1:10:19What did we say? You're also seven years every three months every three months. Oh every three months. We might have clamped down on that. That's only four a year. Yeah Okay, there's you know, you're not like walking through the city you're not walking through the city and got the crocs guy coming Yeah, but if you go anywhere near a lake and you make the wrong kind of vibrations Yeah, they were very I went to cans once and they were all very scared they come out so quick They come out so quick dude. But also what a beautiful way to die if you have to not beautiful No, nope, nope, he's eating bakar.

1:10:48I'm telling evil the last moments of your life will be horrible energy that you will pass on to the cosmos You will die in the most horrific way possible They all fit on two pieces of paper. Yeah, where he's overplay. He's overrated. These are all the people that are being built again cans Cap your cap your that's up. There's a lot of non fatal's in there Or do you see a few people there? No one you know, we don't have it. We've got cans that would be the the biggest city up Are those as large as the Nile crocodile's the saltwater crocodile's? I don't know how big a Nile crocodile is I think I think they're just are an alligator for the first time they're not as scary Well, you got to see a big one dude.

1:11:29Lady just got killed in Orlando by one last week Salt waters are larger than the Niles Bro, you have the most aggressive crocodiles in the world. We got them and we got it It's a lot of koalas and kangaroos. Kangaroos is a friend like you have the most aggressive dinosaur Yeah, the world in your country. That's why to get torn apart by one would be an honor Yeah, and could be not you know I would like to get an am I like to get together with some special forces dudes and kill those mother fuckers from the air Okay, I don't think you have to keep them alone That's you got to keep them around yeah, I think maybe we keep three in a zoo and everybody else is dead a beautiful creature In the shoes What's that you can get into a cage?

1:12:11Yeah That's a good cage that's a strong cave you'd be fine. No, no, no people. Why do you want to do that? Don't want to do Jesus that is such a monster such a fucking heartless monster if that thing opened up somehow accidentally It would love to eat you What is wrong with a lot of scratches on the kid he's trying to get in there Look at that thing. It's so big They're so terrifying dude. I mean it is a fucking monster and that's not even a big one man I have a friend his name is Jim Shockey and he's a professional hunter. He lives in Canada and They sent him to Africa to shoot crocodiles because they were killing so many people in this one village And he said when he got there there was this one particular big crock that was there.

1:13:01There was this kill in everybody Everybody was like missing a foot Everybody had one arm like for real like the jaws but for crocodile. Yeah, he said it was crazy So like so many people in this town had been bitten by crocodiles So they had developed a system where they put posts in the ground in the water So that they knew the crocodiles couldn't get into that right? So what the crocodiles did was go around it and sneak into the water when the people weren't around They're impressive beauty. Have you seen in India when they get like a puma in the village And everyone's standing on the roof and the puma's like running around the streets and the guys are throwing net on it.

1:13:35Yeah nuts Is that it's over 20 feet? Is that a saltwater one? It looks bigger because they're very small people but that's so big dude That's so big That's such a dinosaur And then we turn it into handbags and shoes Thank God. I went down a rabbit hole there. It's so funny that people want to keep them around I know I like I want to be real clear. I don't want them to go extinct for sure Mostly just fucking around here. They shouldn't be in residential It is weird that we tolerate a certain amount of monsters It's weird to reintroduce them seems naughty. Oh when people bring the wolves back Brother the thing they're doing in Colorado is so stupid because this is what they did Okay, Colorado took these wolves from Oregon.

1:14:22Yeah, had been praying on cattle And then they moved them Into Colorado where they prayed on cattle. Yeah, and then the people whose cattle they were praying on got pissed off So they took a bunch of them removed them and put them in Pitkin County over by Aspen where they Pray on cattle It's the dumbest thing. It was like oh, it's gonna balance out the wild No, they're dumb. They don't know what they're doing. It's wildlife. It's ballot box. Why are you is like no? The governor and his husband wanted to do it this way They wanted to reintroduce wolves like and but wolves were already on their way to being reintroduced to Colorado They were doing it actually.

1:15:02There's wolves. There's a pack of wolves that was established that it already made their way into Colorado Colorado boils borders Wyoming. Wyoming has wolves. So they were getting wolves This is a tourism thing or they just like they just know it's like look there's some There's some like real thought that could be put into whether or not an ecosystem she'd balanced with the proper amount of predators And if you the human race were responsible for killing off this one major predator that was in this ecosystem Yeah, that seems irresponsible and maybe we can bring that animal back and it would balance out the system This is the thought process.

1:15:40Sure. The problem with that is these animals have become accustomed to just killing cattle They did it in Oregon then they did in Colorado and then they're doing it where they are now and everybody wants to pretend It's not happening. Yeah, they want to pretend they didn't do that. They didn't do a giant fuck up These are not wild Wolves that are gonna go out and hunt down elk and and make the population smaller No, they're used to praying on cattle. Yeah, so they're killing cows all But there's a lot of people who want to hunt right like there are people who want to take out the animals that the wolves would have taken out Well, yeah, but you should have a balance you should have mountain lines like it like the wild can't you can't sterilize Certain aspects of the ecosystem because they're dangerous to you But what you shouldn't do is take these animals and then move them into an area where nothing is prepared Yeah, the ranchers aren't prepared no one warned them They moved them to that area without letting anybody know One of my friends has a ranch there.

1:16:40They released some of the wolves on his property And these wolves now all of a sudden wolves that are used to killing cattle are killing cattle down there Yeah, cuz it would be way easier. They're easier. They're all together. Yeah, they don't run away They they they stand still and you kill the cows. They're like like in Britain. They got rid of all the wolves They come rid of all the wolves everywhere dude There's a reason why they did it. It was because wolves are like the most intelligent They're like psychic super predators. They're the most intelligent of all predators They're the only predator that we have in North America that hunts in a pack And they're big you're dealing with a hundred pound plus animal that hunts in a pack they bring it back to the die wolf As well well, so that's different.

1:17:24Okay, this is not but they were not Be bringing back to the head they're not gonna put it in the wild. All right, they brought it back to show that this This gene editing that they do for animals is legitimate So to do that they've reproduced an animal from the genes of one of them What was it? What were the numbers Jamie one was like 50 ,000 years old and one was like 70 ,000 years old when best repair I was in here the the lady who's like the head geneticist brilliant woman She was explaining it all to us and it's just the whole thing is bananas So they essentially didn't even know what they were gonna look like until they came out Is the hope that we get the dinosaurs?

1:18:02Well, that's kind of a Jurassic Park 100 % that's gonna come if they have DNA from a dinosaur I don't think they do. I don't think it's possible. I think it's too degraded when it's that old You'll find like but maybe they'll find some the Tasmanian devils differently. They're always trying to bring that back No, the Tasmanian tiger. Sorry Tasmanian devils is there around that's a weird one because they get cancer from biting each other They get face cancer. They all have weird. I mean all the koalas have Chlamydia Do they really? Yeah, it's probably from silvers Australia is very cute. They're very It's the uh It's the do -gong of the land Those Tasmanian devils they bite each other in the face and they get these horrible face deformities.

1:18:45It's like it's like The communicable cancer. It's like cancer that they transfer to each other. It's real weird Did they have that before we got there? I don't think it has anything to do with us I don't think that's I think it has something to do with like whatever the fuck is in their mouth You know, it could be just all the horrible shit that they eat. Yeah, and then they bite each other and their teeth are probably rotten and disgusting I don't like why do Tasmanian tiger or devils rather give each other cancer Let's find out. Well, what are they? I mean we could let them know what are we gonna brush their teeth?

1:19:22No, I can't do anything unless you can come up with a medication that stops it from happening like an antibiotic or something I don't understand like how cancer can be communicable like that like you can just transfer it by biting Seems crazy Yeah, if you if you got covered in a tumor you wouldn't get cancer, would you? Okay, devil facial tumor disease. It's a contagious fatal cancer that Primarily affects the face in the mouth area of Tasmanian devils diseases significantly impacted the wild population posing a serious threat that are survival. What is it? DFTD is a transmissible cancer meaning it spreads through the transfer of living cancer cells Primarily via biting they didn't notice till the 90s wow the tumors usually start as lesions or patches on the mouth The facing grow into large disfiguring masses the disease is almost universally fatal.

1:20:15Whoa So we must have done this we must be somehow But if if it started in the 90s and now they're going extinct because of it But that does happen with the animal sometimes. Yeah, that feels like weird timing that they would be they were getting by for a hundred thousand years And then 200 years after why do you get to be? But that's it's possible right? Yeah, that's who's good to be cynical. We're bad tonight. I'm a football team after them They're crazy animal you ever hear the sounds they make no let's play that Play the sounds of Tasmanian devil they sound so cool Like he was my favorite character for sure in the Warner Brothers cartoons the Tasmanian devil it's spanned around He's fine When I found out it was at university people kept going like he's black.

1:20:59Do you know he's black? Bugs when he's black? That's like a big thing that he was a black coded character He's always like relaxed Oh, and he's got a cool plan that he's working on he's like a zootsuit guy from the 20s Here's some of this Yeah, look devil was an easy name to pick Oh No, no points for the guy who came up with that I Mean if you called it anything else I would be disappointed I miss our beautiful Australian animals I miss the trees I got to go through For you're still like the gum trees again. I'd send gum trees and forever look at that. That's so nice What a ferocious little fuck something gets in the blood where it's like that's what I think an animal should look you know I saw I think foliage close recently for the I think maybe the first time a Wolverine They're real yeah, yeah, no the real animal.

1:22:07Yeah, it's huge up the adventure. No, it's a badger It's in the Badger family, I think but I saw one at like this nature preserve when I was on the road It's pretty interesting man. You see those little fuckers like they're Unbelievably ferocious they scare bears off of carcasses and they weigh like 50 pounds There are this is the year that I've seen the most animals because I've got kids and we travel around and I go I've been like eight zoos this year. Oh cool. It's a lot of zoos, but they're man Did you know in New York they had a guy at the zoo that a human zoo? What is he'd fight in here Jamie?

1:22:41Yes, wait, that's the Wolverine. Yeah, it's a Wolverine. Oh, if we get at the animal fight videos Wolverine I think he pissed himself while that was happening of course he probably pisses himself all over the place Just probably make himself more ferocious Like the wolf gets a hold of them. I've seen mountain lions get a hold of them and they don't kill them They're like unbelievably durable. You've watched the bird and the fish that goes on for like The bird in the fish is like a heron trying to get a a small fish And they played in slow motion. They put classical music behind it No animals trying to get away from other than that's a big.

1:23:14I've watched a lot of those animals trying to get away from animals Yeah, yeah running fast across the wilderness you want them to get away So your animals you have a lot of weirdness going on over there, right? Because you have kangaroos sometimes they get like an infestation, right? Yeah, then they go up in a helicopter and they gun down the kangaroos What used to kill the kangaroos back in the day? I Don't think anything was killing them. So how did they get to see that there might have just been less arable land Maybe they had like less to eat oh, I assume they would starve, but like I I think anything kills the emus we lost all our big predators Uh Dingo's but dingo's came right.

1:23:56Dingo's I think came from India. Yeah, but here's the thing man Some kangaroos like six feet tall. They're fucking huge, but they'll only bother you So there's that one video the other guy with the dog But what I'm saying is good luck to the dingo. Yeah, these fuckers get big Well, they're in packs though. Dingo's are yeah. Oh, so they'll hunt their impacts. Well, they probably don't hunt the big males either right? Oh, look at all fuck I miss the strap. Do you yeah? What do you miss the most? I miss the football. I miss the Look at the accent. Look at all these fucking. I don't remember that that doesn't usually happen We don't usually get together in a what's all the demon called my calls It was during COVID whenever I was inside there was like Kangaroos came back into the town they were jumping about So this is a mob of kangaroos.

1:24:43That was that does look like a mob You'll see him you're going like a nature walking you'll see a kangaroo in the distance just looking at you Cheers, but they're like you know, they they seem friendly and mysterious and then they jump away So was there like more dingoes all over Australia at one point in time? I think we Clamp down it. It's some clamp down on the lady who lost a baby And she said a dingo got it and a no one believed her and now they think the dingo maybe got that baby But also the dingoes are all in there. I've never seen a dingo. Imagine your dingo eating your baby and nobody believes you Yeah, in that crazy It's not only horrible that a dingo ate your baby, but then all you a lot you killed your baby My favorite one is the poet Ted Hughes.

1:25:23He's married to Sylvia Plath He comes home. She's killed herself in the oven. Oh very sad for it. She killed herself in the oven I don't think he came home. He'd left it by that point for another woman. She guessed herself in the oven Then he the moment I think it's the woman that he runs away with a couple years later She also kills herself in the family oven. Oh, his second wife. So like from the outside People in the British literary establishment start going I think he's killing his wives in the oven. You can't have a second oven Suicide that's you like so for me once type of situation Well, you could if the second wife Obsessed about the death of the first wife.

1:26:00Yes to the point or you'd be careful with wife number three Well, it's you'd say we're going electric oven Well, these are ex wives, right? Yeah, once they're I think he was still married to the second one. Oh, okay. He didn't have to leave her but he so while they were a marriage Extra self like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well that guy's probably got shitty choice and ladies. He I believe it So court the second one in the same way. Yeah, that's an issue you'd be like this keeps coming up Maybe I'm doing something wrong. Yeah, like that's the thing about like the Clinton body count If you look at 51 of your friends commit suicide.

1:26:40Very sad like something's going on That's a that's a giant number most people don't have 51 close associates Why themselves in strange ways some people are unlucky One of one of the guys hung himself from a tree by Extension court and then shot himself in the chest with a shotgun Yeah, cuz he was a hard work. He was probably a good part of a DNC operation You don't want to leave it to chance Yeah, the mysterious suicide they keep it's hard not to get into the conspiracy I try not to have a conspiratorial mind sick because I get unhappy Well, we already talked about what is real did they made the fake phone call But that was I think it was impressive that's a can that's a can I thought it was cool right it is cool But the beepers they came out and they said we did both of them are cool, but it's a conspiracy They can see fired to whack somebody did can spy.

1:27:28Yeah, and they did it and they pulled it off Well, they also They were getting like The last Nazis for a while. Oh, yeah over the letter. How come down 50 years later 60 years later hunt them down Yeah, you think they'd managed to clear up a mask quicker. That's one of the weirdest that you ever see that show Hunting Hitler or finding Hitler nah, okay. I've seen shows like that on the history channel I don't know if I've seen that one waiting ten Kennedy was on it and they all went down to Argentina And one of the things you find in Argentina is like entire towns where people speak German. Yeah, and so what Italians to well, yeah, right misslinies guys Yeah, and so they found all these photographs of like SS soldiers and the walls and people's houses like there's a television show about it We have a we have a German town in Australia where they say there's a pub with like Nazi stuff on the walls I've never seen it, but the jumes There's like there's a pavilion town where everyone's nice and relaxed and then there's like a Prussian town with people A very intense.

1:28:29But still also sometimes you will go around to like a German guy's house Like they've got an old German family and then you look over the mantel piece and they said knife there Is a very special knife? It's like you can't get rid of it. That's grandpa's knife The weird thing is like they have full towns down in Argentina that practice octoberfest Yeah, they put on the leaderhosen the whole deal like it's a German town I think there's something about the black population disappeared I don't know if this is I think it might be Argentine that they had like a big black population and then over a hundred years People go I don't know where they are anymore, but they're not here now And I think it coincides with that maybe it was before the Nazis got there But that's a weird that's a weird rabbit hole.

1:29:12There's not a lot about it There's so many rabbit holes Some people set like they just integrated and And what wait and up Like it's kids after kids and you can't see it but like yeah, what they had a big black population And it am I right I need that one. I don't want to just say that and have it sit there Looked out one up but like it disappeared And this is Argentina It's it could be you black genocide of the true history of the whitening of Argentina. Thank you travel noir a rib site I've never heard of that website, but I assume it's a whoa Oh Today many Argentinians hold the erroneous belief that Argentina neither participated in the slave trade nor witnessed the presence of Afro Argentinians As if they had left the country naturally such such misconceptions persist despite historical evidence former Argentine president Carlos Maneum Once shockingly declared in Argentina blacks do not exist.

1:30:10That is a Brazilian problem No one's bringing that up Whoa less than two centuries ago black individuals compromised over a third of Argentinian's population in 1800 That seems like a question that seems like someone should find out what happened there holy shit Holy shit, man The factors beyond behind the disappearance Sudden and profound disappearance of black Africans from Argentina is attributed to a confluence of factors 1870s, though versus the war against Paraguay spanning from 1865 to 1870 Thousands of black individuals fought in the military during these conflicts and other wars resulting in Significant losses the fatalities led to a considerable gender gap within the African population Prompting unions between black women and white men which effectively diluted the black populace in addition many Afro Argentine sought refuge in more welcoming political Climates in neighboring Brazil in Uruguay But you don't lose a third of the population by accident by a like a bad win.

1:31:23They're saying all of them Yeah, like there's no way these factors would make all of them go away another devastating fact was the outbreak of yellow fever and Buenos Aires in 1871 Which claimed the lives of numerous locals But still wouldn't it be like purport here it is but many sources point to a far darker and more sinister force at work a covert genocide orchestrated by Domingo Faustino Sorry, Mento who served as Argentinus president from 1868 to 1874 and played a pivotal role in decimating the Afro Argentine population Okay, so it is a genocide. Yeah, but this was about a hundred years before I thought Wow But there no one no one's going after Argentina for this well, I didn't even know about it until I'm in Mexico Like America's a racist country their racist history.

1:32:12Shit. Why's no one talking about Brazil's slavery Brazil had way more Brazil was like I think they kept doing it for 20 years as well They were it was huge And then everyone just acts like Brazil is a cool place to go by the beach and relax Maybe it is if you've ever seen the city of God No, city of God is about the Favellas in Brazil. Yeah, in Rio and it is uh It makes Eddie Bravo said this that it makes boys in the hood looks like Sesame Street It really does like if you watch that movie it's so violent and so crazy and apparently When you talk to people from Brazil particularly from the Favellas.

1:32:51Yeah, it's actually accurate Like the there were gangs of kids like this to like young 10 -11 year old kids committing murder every day They had guns. They were moving drugs and getting money and like young They still have it. Ah still an issue. I mean they've done their best to try to like The you know the the soldiers will like do raids into the Favellas. Yeah, especially when someone does something crazy But I always say positive things about slums before there's negative things to heaven slums as well I would just like that to be more More housing Yeah housing would be good, but good housing would be better and There's enough money.

1:33:31There's enough money to do that. It's like you just have to we have to prioritize like what are we spending money on? I mean we shot we shot Australia down for like two years. No one was doing anything Yeah, you guys want nuts We if you ever lead the world in something bad that's I think a bad sign Why don't you have the longest lockdown? What is it about Australians? Mm -hmm as a culture yeah that allowed them to be kind of ordered around like that we love rules. Is that what it is? I think about this a lot Because it's I mean like like driving in America is feels wild and for it like no one's doing the speed limit If you do the speed limit on the freeway it feels way more dangerous than going five over We have cameras ever you can't you if you go one two miles over the speed limit in Australia You got to find they've recorded you you're in and we don't push back I have no idea why other than because people don't like it overall people don't want to go through the bureaucracy But maybe there's no we have no like animating sense of freedom The people should be free.

1:34:30It's like Think if the motto here is don't tread on me. We've got pull your fucking head in you hear that quite a lot pull your head in Pull your head in what's that mean? What are you? What are you fucking doing pull your pull your fucking head in like get in Get in line go with the flow do what you meant to do And for a while I guess we were also prosperous for a long time And that worked if you just like laid low and you did what you know you went to school You went to uni the government's gonna pay for you uni you get a you got a nice job You get a big beautiful suburban family home don't buck this system.

1:35:00You don't have to do anything crazy And as that falls apart now Which is former part quickly Rent out of control the inflation so much worse there. It's all you know the immigration is like Can't it's silly like we're not building houses in line with that um And so it's like I don't all a lot of comics are moving overseas Like in a way that no one moved overseas when I was for the first 10 years. I was doing comedy I think a couple guys went to the UK And that was it and now Aaron Chenz here like Freemans here. I must guilds here What do you think is the big motivator to What was the biggest thing that was a problem over there that post code?

1:35:41I mean covid was covid radicalized a lot of people So what it was just the kind of control they put down on you guys it was and then the I mean, there's there's so much opportunity People keep saying the cost of living's going up in America and it is but it's like still It's wacky that eggs are only three seventy or something That's so cheap for eggs for us really yeah how much are eggs over there more substantial Yeah, yeah, how much give me I don't know. I'm buying I'm buying three round jigs because we my wife insists on it But still I would I think if you didn't eat if you did like a milk to milk egg to egg you dominate Interesting America has so far to go before it gets to be a revolutionary 14 a dozen whoa 14 bucks a dozen you guys pay for eggs.

1:36:30That's great. Oh man It's if you got calls and will I mean the dollars the dollars a bit different There's so this last opportunity things are more expensive and also there's I mean But what about covid radicalized a lot of people you got locked in your house for I mean it was literally in Melbourne we were in Melbourne when it kicked off my wife and I and we had a newborn child And she was pregnant with the next one and they said we're blocking everyone down for six weeks. You can't leave your house And it was we had better not better. We had like strongest state -by -state regulations So if you moved back we were from Adelaide in South Australia They said it was two weeks if you came from into state So we just drove all night and got out but then watched as people it's like a 300 day lockdown Jesus Christ You couldn't do it was one of the only places you could do shows was in Adelaide We did have my suit.

1:37:15I like Josh steps. He seems great. I saw him on here Like about the I think you confronted him about the concentration camps And it's like yeah, we had camps where we concentrated people. I don't know what else you meant to call that Yeah We had a disagreement too about myocarditis and it was interesting It's like you would get all these different now. It's like firmly established as a higher risk of myocarditis for young people that took it But back then it was really confusing and I was like why did I read articles that said it was a higher risk And then he brought one up that said there is more of a risk of getting myocarditis from COVID itself Which really didn't make any sense even in the argument because back then we didn't know that it not only doesn't Protect you from getting the virus.

1:37:55It doesn't even protect you from spreading the virus So you still get it. So you still have a chance if that's true. Yeah, but it turns out when I talked to Dr. Maseem A seamahotra who is He's a part of this whole maha thing too, and he was another doctor that was initially pro vaccine and Eventually just realized there was a bunch of horseshit going on with all of it He said they that's not what they measured they were measuring troponin levels They were measuring like what what happens when you get sick and that those levels are higher in a viral infection And he was saying that that's not indicative of what true myocarditis is which is In enlarging of the heart and a scarring of the heart tissue.

1:38:36It's like yeah, it's a different thing They're looking for they're elevating the number of people that are getting it from COVID by doing it this way He was saying oh I can see why you like It's hard to lose trust in the establishment Like you want to believe that the people running the medical Side of things and who is setting all the rules have your interest at heart and you should listen to them Actually if you're in so certain social circles, right? Yeah, so if you're in certain social circles where people are very Pro -science and very logical and rational and they are all in agreement of one thing You don't want to be cast out of that social circle You don't want to be thought of as being a fool and so you don't want to have any opinion that's opposing What is this consensus narrative amongst these people?

1:39:18It's also em is nice to be in that group because you get to you get to live in a world where the government cares about you And they know what they're doing and this politician in a suit Like there was a yeah, but you got in the realm for personal expression of politicians was tiny for a long time Because it was you well, you know, that's what you want Trump's blowing this up But I remember like how it then did a weird scream and his career was that that's what it took back in the day to ruin your candidacy Yeah, well how about it? I had to keep that illusion going that like this is a very competent people who will not make a weird noise at the wrong time Oh, well for sure that was all they would need to latch on to and then they would like throw in everybody's face It would be all over the news and it would be over.

1:39:54Yeah, there was no internet You know, what I mean, isn't that a nice world to that world like that 50s world of like ah you can we've got a man in a white coat And he knows what's up. You don't have to do all the it's taxing to try and figure out how disease works. Oh, it's yeah It's not fun. It's not fun to not trust anyone and always want to read like Hundreds of different articles on any complex subject to try to get an understanding of who's telling the truth Yeah, it's a pain in the ass and the cost for getting it wrong is you know like if you get 19 things right and one thing wrong They just go.

1:40:29You're a candidate. Oh 100 % yeah, but this I think the key is like you have to say why you got it wrong and then Express yourself like I get things wrong But I'll tell you why I got it wrong and then I won't lie and I'll tell you what I know now So if I know now that something's different than what I thought I definitely always say it and I would say I was wrong about this And this is why I like get it out you got to get it out because it's important like the whole thing is we're trying to figure out What the fuck is actually going on and when you're looking at like really complex like you get in something like the Kennedy assassination Yeah, which is like one of the big ones in this country because a lot of people like oh let it go Let it go when then there's a lot of other people go no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no This shows you how they did it in 1963 and they've evolved and anything that's alive That's still a part of the systems are all still there.

1:41:22Yeah, for sure they're just way better at doing that and they've learned how to not use a magic bullet and you know non -fucking you know The grassy no Not kill all the witnesses you know they learned how to do stuff. Some of them. They get a lot better. So it's like so Jack Ruby be killed. I'm going to get a lot of this wrong. Lee Harvey Oswald. Jack Kennedy killed his brother as well. We have a photo of it right out there right now. Yeah. But then when he's under arrest, they're like two journalists who come and interview him. And I think one of them kills him. Am I Jolly West? Jolly West, the head of the MK Ultra program.

1:41:55Yeah. Yeah. Jolly West visits, and he goes insane. He'd never had any history of mental illness. Jolly West sees, he sees Jews burning and hell. And he's going crazy. He's high because he was a Jewish man. So he thought they were coming for him. He's hiding underneath the fucking bench. You screaming. He went completely, they dosed him with acid. Yeah. This is the MK Ultra people. I think a journalist who talked to him before he died got killed by some sort of gay karate chop. A gay? It was like a gay journalist. And then he took a man and he asked you chop him. And I think he took a man home for a sexual encounter.

1:42:31And then he was karate chop to death. I think that's the official explanation. It's a very rare thing to karate chop. A man to death. That's a weird choice. It was the six of all these cool evidence. Karate chop something. Why did they know it was a karate chop unless they have a video? I think that's the medical examiner said karate chop. Okay, that medical examiner is not the top of the month. He probably just stomped him. Well, do you think, well, who's the the Manson family? The Manson? Yes. He was dosed with some sort of. Oh, 100%. And I'm sorry if you heard this before, ladies and gentlemen, but the book chaos by Tom O 'Neill is amazing.

1:43:03All right. He's Greg Fitzsimmons old neighbor. So Greg, who's at the mothership this weekend, who's awesome. One of my best friends. And I've been friends with, I started doing comedy with him one week apart when we did open Mike Knight. Does he have Boston guys, will? Yes, known him forever. He's awesome. So he and hilarious comic too. I think it's all sold out. But he was next door to this guy. And this guy was a journalist, super nice guy. They became friends. And he's saying I'm writing this thing about Manson. It was supposed to be for a magazine. It was supposed to be like 25th anniversary with the Manson family killings.

1:43:36But he starts finding all these inconsistencies and he keeps going further and further down the rabbit trap. And he thinks the prosecutors full of shit. And there's some sort of a connection to the government. He's like, what the fuck is going on here? So he doesn't meet the deadline. So he keeps going. And so then he gets a book deal. And he's going on and on and on and on and on. For 20 fucking years. For 20 years, this guy studies nothing, but the Manson case. He's got stacks and boxes. He's been interviewing people. And then he puts together this book with help. He had to get someone to help him organize it because he was so deep in the weeds.

1:44:07He's got enough for another book. I mean, a pure, obsessive, but a brilliant guy. And this book chaos, it outlines all of the MK Ultra involvement in the Manson family. And all the different things that they were doing at the time with the CIA, my control experiments. So they were running brothels. Which they did definitely seem to have. 100%. Yeah. All 100 % real. Do you know about this lady? Dorothy Killgallon, reporter, cloaked and controversy. I just need to read this. OK. Dorothy Killgallon is best known for her column, The Voice of Broadway, and The New York Evening Journal, which was published in over 140 papers and for her role as the game show panelist in the 1950s television program, What's My Line?

1:44:49She was hailed by the post as being the most powerful female voice in America. Killgallon spent a vast majority of her career cloaked in controversy, most notably surrounding her investigative work into the John F. Kennedy assassination. As a longtime skeptic of the Warren Commission, a study conducted by the United States government into who killed JFK, as well as who killed Lee Harvey at Walt. We know who killed Lee Harvey at Walt. JFK supposed assassin, Killgallon dove deep into the controversy. Some may even argue too deep. Killgallon was under suspicion that Oswald did not commit his crimes alone and published several articles reflecting this belief.

1:45:25Jack Ruby, who allegedly killed Lee Harvey at Walt, on November 24, 1963 was only interviewed by one reporter throughout the trial, Dorothy Killgallon. Since her interview with Ruby, many noted that Killgallon carried a file with her at all times. It remained under lock and key when not physically in her hands, according to those close to her. Killgallon file continued to grow throughout the investigation. In a conversation with her lawyer, Jim Garrison, prior to, that's the guy who prosecuted, that was in the movie, Kevin, Kevin Costner played him in the JFK movie. Prior to a trip to New Orleans with Dorothy later inexplicably canceled, he remembers her saying, I'm going to break the real story and have the biggest scoop of the century.

1:46:15Killgallon's first trip to New Orleans was planned two weeks prior to her death. When her husband Richard Colmar found her with files missing by her hairdresser in a bedroom she never slept in, dressed in clothes she would never wear to bed, reading a book she had finished and disliked, wearing glasses she didn't need for reading. Initial autopsy report, a Brooklyn Medical Office, as opposed to the office in Manhattan, where she lived, found her cause of death to be a lethal combination of alcohol and barbituates. The report later amended to note that the barbituate originally found, second all, a sleeping pill for which she had been prescribed, was in fact a combination of two in all and nembootall which she did not have access to.

1:47:00Although her death was eventually ruled a suicide, Killgallon's husband noted that when she returned from a taping of what's my line early that evening, she appeared chipper. Well a lot of people do seem chipper before they got there. They're like, I don't think so. They're like, I don't think so. Yeah, a researcher by the name of Mark Shaw investigated Killgallon's death found that she was under surveillance by the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act. Friends of Killgallon recall her expressing fear for her life, leading up to her death and she supposedly even purchased a gun, a rather uncharacteristic thing further.

1:47:31Yeah, they whacked her. Yeah, they whacked her. Yeah. They've got a finished release. In a recent release of the JFK files on October 26th, 2017, a file entitled Dorothy Killgallon by Richard Nixon was released, but its contents remain sealed due to reasons of national security. They whacked her. Yeah, was there a guy karate chopper? Did I make that up? I didn't see that part. Oh, yeah, that's awesome. They whacked her. They whacked her. It seems like she was digging into the investigation. Look, you know, when you talk to, like I talked to Oliver Stone about it multiple times and Oliver Stone despite his advanced age is still brilliant and his recall is incredible.

1:48:18And his recall in the assassination. He's obsessed with that assassination. So he can tell you like who is involved and who did this? And Alan Dulles and this and that, the Warren Commissioner report and then it goes back. The rabbit hole just goes so deep. It goes all the way to Richard Nixon because it goes all the way to Gerald Ford who was on the Warren Commission's report and when they kicked Spiro Agnew out, they got Spiro Agnew on corruption. They kicked him out. They put in Gerald Ford and they kicked Richard Nixon out with the Watergate thing, which I always thought was Richard Nixon got caught being a crook.

1:48:55But that's no, it was not a crook. It was an intelligence agency plot. The whole thing was Tucker Carlson lays it out. Yeah. This, the Nixon reputation is starting to come back. Well, you know, people are starting to love Nixon again. There's a lot of, maybe for the first time. Stuff that he did, it's not good. Jim Coty wrote, decided to write a book about the assassination of John F. Kennedy. However, he died on the 21st September 1964. Oh, there we go. And see that a man broke into his Dallas apartment and killed him by a karate chop to the throat. That could happen to anybody. That's a real thing that happens over time.

1:49:29This is the thing, like, how do they know they didn't just strangle him to the throat? Like if you have damage to your throat, if you don't see the guy karate chopping him. Well, it does seem like a weird flourish for the secret police to put it at. But that's like one of those things that you would say. Kothi just, oh, it seemed like a man broke into his apartment. Tom Howard died of a heart attack, age 48, 1965. Who's Tom Howard? Oh, oh, is it Tony? Okay. They both did the jack -and -be -do. Okay, and they both died. They definitely did. And the jack -and -be -do. They definitely could give you a heart attack.

1:50:06The Kratty Chop, the word. Kratty Chop does not. I really like to hold on the karate chop. That's the one detail that really stayed with me for the beat. I was sure. You can't tell. I've seen so many guys get beat up and you can never tell what hit them. There could have been a very long bruise across the third, big forearm. Shin, shin to the neck. Easy. People didn't have that sort of kicking it, but they didn't have that. In the West at that time. Sure, some people did. Yeah, there was people that trained like an assassin. If you were gonna be an assassin, you would learn Moitai. Yeah. There was like legit Moitai.

1:50:35It also had a knife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you wanted to make it look like it was like a... That was a bachelor flat. Is that why I thought it was some sort of... Cause of deck, Exfixiation from a broken bone at the base of his neck. Apparently the result of a karate chop. You know, I'm suspicious. I think they probably thought of it as a karate chop because this is how people thought back then. But I would imagine that was like a baton on the neck where you choke a guy to death. There was a time, I know in Austin Powers, karate chop is like a cool thing. Early 60s, people just fan ahead of that karate.

1:51:06The other guy was accidentally shot by the police a few hours before we had to die. That can happen. That can happen. Jesus Christ, man. When you read stories like this, like if you're not a conspiracy theorist, you're like... It was a karate chop that made me think it was something that's gone wrong. The karate chop's the only thing that drew me in. I was happily signing up with the rest of the official narrative. Dude, I've seen a lot of guys get karate chop to the neck. Narrow fun? None of them died. Yeah, they killed me. My dad is like a big... That's not what breaks your neck. My dad really like...

1:51:37He really believes that JFK assassination happened the way they said it to. And he went today, he met a whole trip of it to Dallas and he went up to the building. He was like, he could have done it. He could have done it from here. Well, here's the thing. So I've never really dug into it. But here's the thing. He could have shot JFK in the head from the book to post -tory. Yeah. Anybody says any different has never shot a rifle. It wasn't that far. It was, I think it was 140 yards. If you have a scope and you have an accurate rifle, 140 yards is not a long shot. And if you have practiced and you know how it's going to go down and you're prepared, you're going to know exactly where he's going to be, you're going to have the crosshair on him, you pull the trigger, you hit him in the head.

1:52:17And you might be able to get off a couple of shots. And some people have been able to recreate the three shots and they think that he got off three shots. And that's impossible. They recreated? Yeah, people have done it. They closed down central Dallas? No, no, no, no, no, no. They shot off three rounds from a Carcano rifle in that same period of time. They didn't do it there. But they did it. They showed, look, you can shoot three times in the amount of time that it took you to drive. But this is the problem with any conspiracy theories that like, You got to look at it all of it. There are a bunch of things that don't.

1:52:48Yeah. There are like a thousand conspiracy theories about. JFK. Yeah, some of them are, now it's been then some of them hold up. There was some point though, is that that is undeniable. But it's also undeniable there was a lot of people that reported that they heard gunshots from the grassy knoll. There's also the whole magic bullet theory, which is total horseshit. That's the most horseshit theory that's ever been promoted. Did there was like an ice bullet that dissolved inside of? No, do you know the magic bullet theory? One bullet caused a whole ton of injuries in the bullet. What is it, the rant?

1:53:18Now this is what they had to do. Okay, there was a guy that got shot in the underpass. Yes. So there was an underpass and a ricochet hit the granite, the curb stone. Yeah. And he got hit in the head. So he got fucked up and he had to go to the hospital. And then they found the impact and they found the bullet. So they knew that this accounted for one of the shots that it missed. So then they had to count for two different entry holes on on Kennedy. Yep. And entry hole in Connolly. So Connolly was shot in the wrist. Yeah. And in the thigh as well. So it had you had to say that one bullet did all this damage in both people and then there was the headshot.

1:53:59Yeah. Because they have the third bullet. So they came up with one wacky theory and they found this bullet in pristine condition on the gurney when they went to visit in the hospital. So when they had JFK's gurney in the hospital, they magically found this pristine bullet. This is like when the passports fall out of the plane on 9 -11. Yeah. Almost as ridiculous. But this one is so ridiculous because you have the physical evidence of the bullet which is impossible. It's impossible for a bullet to shatter bone go through two different people, leave more residue. Like more bullet fragments were in Connolly's wrist than we're missing from the bullet.

1:54:41That bullet, that bullet supposedly went through two different people, shattered bone on both of them. And that's a special bullet. As a person who's shot guns before, that's horseshit. That's not what happens when a bullet hits bone. So it's supposed to have gone through his back. This is the official explanation. This is how it's tie hole. Yeah, like right where his tie knot is, goes into Connolly's wrist and then goes into his thigh. Shatters his wrist, leaves fragments in his wrist, the wound left in the thigh, and then they find this magical, perfect bullet pristine condition on the gurney of the hospital.

1:55:23I mean, like it seems weird. Was it Connolly's gurney that they found it on or JFK's? I might have got it wrong. I might have been Connolly's gurney that they found the bullet on. But either way, listen to me. Shut the fuck up. No, I usually stop at this point. Shush. Because I don't want it to happen. I don't want it to happen. I don't want it to happen. That's what happened. Shut the fuck up. Then there's also the problem of the bullet hole in his neck. Now they're trying to attribute that as an exit wound, but the thing is, in the, there's two different autopsies. They're the autopsie from Dallas, and then there was the autopsie from Bethesda, Maryland.

1:56:00And the discrepancy was the one in Bethesda, Maryland. I believe called it a tracheotomy scar, or tracheotomy cut. So like they opened them up to put a trache in. The only reason why they would do that is they don't want to attribute that to a bullet that hit them in the front of the neck. I think there was a bunch of different people that were trying to figure out, how do we make it so that it was only this one guy? And Lee Harvey Oswald might have pulled the trigger. He might have been part of it. He does kill the policeman, Laita. I believe so. I believe they, they, most people believe he did that.

1:56:30Yeah. Well, he already knew that he was on the run at that point in time, right? And then when he gets arrested, he says, I'm a patsy. I'm a patsy. Okay, maybe, maybe he was involved. Maybe he didn't pull the trigger. Maybe somebody else who was a real expert marksman. Because if you, if you, he wasn't that good, like people say he wasn't a good marksman, but let me tell you something about him. He was like damn great at the marksman. Yeah. But here's the thing about shooting rifles. All right, when you're talking about like 500 yards, you're talking about really long shots where you're required to be prone and lay perfectly still.

1:57:03Yeah. Yes. I would say you really want to be an elite marksman to do that. And there's a lot of technique involved in training and they're very meticulous about their preparation, their breath work. And it's like a very intense thing. Because you can't move at all. You have to be like so precise, but 140 yards not far. It's not that far. With the Trump thing, they said a child could have done it. When, if you had a scope, that kid didn't have a scope. See, the Trump thing was fucked because that guy was using iron sights. So iron sights are, it's like standard. They don't, you can adjust them slightly, but like towards your side, the closer to the shooter, there are two posts.

1:57:39And at the end, there's one post. And the, the, like the scoop from the upper post, it lines in. He did have a scope. Oh, so why, why did they say that he didn't forever? I mean, well, so like down here, but there was a photograph of it. So this photo down the corner with my cursor doesn't have a scope. Right. This is from the FBI. Okay. But here's the thing. I'm pretty sure there was a photograph of it laying on the roof and it didn't have a scope. And this is why, and this is not my theory. This is all the people that I know that are in like the tactical world that have talked to me about this.

1:58:16They were saying that he had iron sights. So if you can find it, if they show a photo of the actual rifle. And then there's just nothing about these that's come out. So if he had a, if he had a scope that's even crazier that he missed, because that's a chip shot. It's not a hard shot. It's your 140 yards. You have a, an accurate rifle. So let's say, scoop a bit on that. Kind of does look like he has a scope. Okay. Go back to that again. A lot of these pictures from the just talking of it, they're using a picture of a gun without a scope to confuse people. That's interesting. Okay. So it's hard to tell, but go to the top one again and make that larger.

1:59:00It's like this one. No, the one that's on the right hand side. Yeah. That, okay. Okay. That looks a little bit like a scope to me. There's something above the barrel at the middle point of the gun. It doesn't look flat. It looks like there might be a scope. Okay. Which is even crazier than he missed then, because this guy is shooting from a very close distance, but he probably fucking panicked. He's a 20 year old kid. It also, he turns his head just at the right. It's the miraculous hit. Yeah. But the thing is that's not an expert marksman. He did train a lot though. That was the other thing. Like there's a lot of people that trained in firearms with that kid.

1:59:34So they knew that someone either told him to do that or he was preparing by himself to do that. Why has nothing come out of it? Brow. You would think, because I think that MK Ultra Shit keeps going. I think that it's like that Aerosmith song. Train kept rolling all night long. I think it just keeps going. I don't think they stopped. I think someone, whether it's our government or another government or some giant business interest, someone probably talked that kid into doing that, gave him the resources. He had five different phones. Oh man. He could have said someone had to do it again. His entire home was professionally scrubbed.

2:00:11Yeah. There was no silverware in his home when they searched his home. I mean, it's weird that there wasn't more. I know there was like a golf course and there was like a third guy maybe. But the temperature in the country at that time was, no one was like actively coming out and begging. The dams weren't coming out and saying, someone's got to kill this guy. But they were going, this is insane. Yeah, but it might be not just be the dams. So which you have to understand, it's probably business interests. If you're in another country, okay? And this guy's actively campaigning saying that he's going to raise tariffs and he's going to make China pay, we're going to make Russia pay, everyone's going to pay.

2:00:52If you're in some military controlled country that's going to lose trillions of dollars because this guy's going to make everybody pay, you might hire someone to do something like that. Well, this is why he goes vans immediately out. This is the, why I put together a theory, someone else might sit down it, but you pick someone who seems scarier than you, right? You go, why do you kill me, you get him. You think vans are scary? I think at the time he seemed like the furthest right protectionist candidate that Trump could have picked from on the VP. I don't think he really is though. I don't know what he is.

2:01:27He's pretty reasonable when you have a real conversation with him. He's definitely conservative. He's pretty reasonable, but he's also like a no nonsense, no bullshit guy who is not, he doesn't lack in compassion. But he was the, like he was not the easiest, like a young, electorally there were other people he could have gone with. He's young, he's very religious. You know, there's a lot of aspects of that that make people uncomfortable. The young one is pretty big, you know. People don't want like some young guy being the fucking president of the world. Well, the last time it was like, Kennedy Roosevelt, uh, Kennedy was what?

2:02:01He was like late 40s. But he was in a round. He was in 90s. He was in a handset for a long time. He was handsome. He was pretty young. He didn't look like an old leader. He didn't look like Eisenhower, you know what I mean? Yeah. He didn't look like Ronald Reagan. But he was, he been to the war and that added, like when you got to the, have you been to the Fredericksburg Pacific War Museum? No. It's great. It's a two hour drive. It's tremendous. Yeah. But like they have a, they have a mural out back for all the presidents since that war. And everyone's in World War II. Like that's the, it's not that America's looking for an old guy.

2:02:35It's like, who it's everyone is somehow until like Clinton, everyone is a World War II event. Well, you can think back then, everybody signed up for the war. Yeah. But generationally America didn't want to move on from the World War II guys. That was like a comforting, right. But it was also World War II was the last just war in their eyes. Like we had to defeat the Nazis. We had to stop the takeover of evil in the world. And then you got to the Vietnam War and it's like, wait, what's going on here? This is not, that's the same as more. Korea's a little cut. Well, there's a lot of people that would disagree with you.

2:03:16You know, but Korea is also, you know, there's North Korea's fighting South Korea. North Korea's communist South Korea. But it doesn't have the same way. Korea doesn't occupy the same. No, it doesn't have the same spot in people's heads. And then really it's not one war that everyone's getting behind after that. No, no, there's not one. And you know, most people are real down on a war right now for good reasons. You know, it's like, are we fucking for real still doing this? You know, and this was one of the things that Trump campaigned on. It's no more wars. Yeah. And there's a shit out of people, you know, because then right away we're involved in this and we're on thing like, okay.

2:03:55But, you know, I'm so easily taken in that like I was, I was terrified. I was like, oh, I don't want to be a war. This is terrible. And then as soon as the bombs are dropped and Trump comes down and goes, we're very strong. I'm like, oh, yeah, well, it's so easy to get whipped up into a further. There's, there's some truth to that, right? And there's some truth to maybe it wouldn't be the best thing in the world if they developed a nuclear program and they had nuclear weapons and used them on Israel. But then, you know, you say, well, were they really close to doing that? Well, then you find out that Netanyahu has been saying they've been close to doing that.

2:04:27Like, 15 years and Tulsi saying they have no information on it. Yeah, but the thing is like, what do we know? You know, if they don't let inspectors in, what do we know? Yeah. I could see, I could see both sides. To pull together over something. I found it, someone sent me the, like that Reagan towards the end of his term, just kept giving speeches about how he wanted to be an alien invasion. Yes. And he said, if only there was some alien force that we could all get together again against the aliens. Yeah. But it is, that seems like America's ready for that. Some coming together. I can see that if you were in charge, you wanted to have civil unity.

2:05:04You would want that to be something like a war. Well, that pulled people back together. I think there's a lot of value in having no civil unity. I think there's a lot of value in keeping us at each other's throats. This is what I always try to tell people most of us are in the middle. Most of us, especially after you get to do a certain age, you realize, a lot of fucking things that people do. It's because, you know, they're allowed to do it. And it's stupid. And it fucks their life up. And maybe she get your shit together. Also, there's a lot of poor people that need help. And the idea that you're going to cut that off from them is kind of fucked up and uncharitable and un -American.

2:05:40Yeah. But also, there's people that take advantage of those programs. And they stay them forever. And they've kind of fucked up the whole community. And that's true, too. OK, so how do you set the standards? And what do you do? But most people, socially, are very much in the middle. Like most people want gay rights and civil rights and women's rights and trans rights. We want rights. We want everybody to be free. We want everybody to do it. But right now, you just check the word rights on something. Rights are important. Like people say abortion rights. And then people say gun rights. Yeah. That's how you know if the media is in favor of that thing or not.

2:06:18When I was coming over, if they say rights, then they go, this should be... Like abortion rights were infected in, Roe v. Wade. They just... It didn't exist beforehand. They said there was a... I mean, maybe people can pass that. People can legislatively have abortion on the books. But that's not what happened. So Prem Court just said, we infer that there's a right to privacy somewhere in the Constitution. We're not going to be clear about where that is. And so the judiciary can just make it happen. Well, that's how it got overturned, right? Yeah, because what can be done by the judiciary can be overturned by the judiciary.

2:06:49And then there's eaves of stuff in America that just like... The Supreme Court decided it was going to happen. No one came in. Like gay marriage was just a Supreme Court thing. They just... I think that's kind of also the will of the people. Like most people like let them be married. Like what's the problem? Like how does that fuck with your life? Like California votes it in and then votes it out again, right? Well, here's what's hilarious. Up until 2013, Hillary Clinton was openly stating, I don't think Barack Obama... I think he said he was against it for the first time. I think it was 2013 where Hillary finally said she was in favor of gay marriage.

2:07:23But they used to always... Like if you've ever seen those videos of Hillary being more mega than Trump... Not the border. I believe it. Oh my God. She would be Queen Maga. She would be... She would have a diamond encrusted, make America great again, had. She would be the president if she was running today. And I'm not bullshitting. I am not... I think there was... I am 100 % not bullshit. I think it's a Sam Talent bit. I don't know if he's still doing it. But he was going like, if Kamala had come out and said the word retarded, she would have won. That's all she had to do. Sam Talent's funny. But he...

2:07:54Yeah, there was... I mean the dams were always against the... Like the progressive wing takes over the work thing happens at some point. But like Biden was that saying, super predators? Bro, the Democrats were the ones who wanted to keep slavery. Some of them. The Southern Democrats, yeah. But understand. Yeah, yeah. That the Republicans are the ones that were trying to free the slaves. Things just get weird and get reversed. So now the Democrats are anti -free speech, if it's hate speech. Yeah. And misinformation and misinformation and malinformation. And this is... All right, this is the Castro speech that I was getting into on a big one.

2:08:31This is Castro. So the revolution takes over in Cuba. They ban a film. They haven't had to ban a film up to that point. But they ban the first film. And Castro comes and gives like a two hour speech to the intellectuals, explaining why they're going to start banning movies. What was the film? It was called PM. It was just a film about like poor black people having a good time. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of political content in movies. But it gives this like... It's this long, beautiful like... Two, three thousand words at the top going, I'm listening to you and you're listening to me. And isn't that great that we have a conversation?

2:09:04And then just out of nowhere he goes, the revolution's in control and your freedoms are not. You don't have a right to make whatever film you want. We're going to decide. And people are clapping and going for it. But if you like, if you take revolution and sub that out for progress or safety or anti -racism, people would totally get behind that. Yes. And this is what everyone who's been sounding the horn, you know, including guys like Constantine Kissin from Trigonometry and Jordan Peterson. And people that understand the history of Marxism. They're like, this is how it always comes. It comes in the guys of doing the greater good for the people and letting the state control things.

2:09:39This is what happened in North Korea. That's how they all lost their farms. Yeah. But they come in and then they essentialize power and then everybody has to shut the fuck up because that's how people operate. I think from a... Like if you have a materialist worldview of the universe that makes sense. I can see how you would get... Like it's a weird thing to say, God has given you a right to express yourself and to hang out with who you want. This is like a... This is... This is what it has to be in the decor... It's other than the Declaration of the Constitution, but like these are God -given rights and they're self -evident.

2:10:08Because you would... If you were designing a utopia, which is whatever revolutionary wants to do, you're saying we're fixing society, we're fixing human nature. Right. There's nothing that would intrinsically make you say people have a right to say whatever they want. Like that has to come from somewhere. That's like a... That's a weird... It's beautiful. I love it. I love it. I try and live my... It comes from being under the brutal heel of a dictator for the entire country. But then as soon as they have a revolution, they take that away. You use the weapon of your master, the revolutionaries having been under Batista and repressed and not allowed to say what they want.

2:10:42They come to pair and they go, yeah, we're gonna be doing that now. That's what the guy in power gets to do. But to say, the state is seeding that. This is like a beautiful, strange... Well, isn't there a different stuff? Yes, this is. But isn't there a difference between taking over an existing country like Cuba that had been around for a long time? Yeah. A communist regime taking over versus the establishment of a place like the United States, which is an exercise like an experiment, really, in self -government that never been achieved before. And it's not a coincidence that it's the newest country in terms of like superpowers.

2:11:14And yet it's the one that has achieved the most. In terms of cultural impact, artistic impact, intellectual impact, it's a hard argument that the United States hasn't achieved more than anybody. I mean, the fucking nuclear bomb was created here. You know, shut your mouth, right? So allegedly we went to the moon. I don't think we did. But allegedly we went to the moon. Are you back on the moon? Yeah, I don't think we did. But you know, also a lot of assassinations, a lot of like overturning governments and other countries, a lot of shit. Yeah, that's not good. But the point is like this is the most free place and the most shit gets done.

2:11:49I mean, I don't disagree with that at all. And I think this is the progress that the human civilization goes through. It realizes its suppression ultimately is bad for everybody. It's bad for GDP, bad for like, it's bad for patriotism, it's bad for everything. Yeah, it's bad for people's appreciation of each other. It's hard to govern when people are fucking angry. And then the break off civilizations always seek more freedom. Yeah, you know, I think we got to try one more time with Greenland. Give it a go. I think if Trump takes Greenland and global warming is real, that's the spot. Well Canada might have to become a state and then there's a lot of good land up there.

2:12:29I have a friend who went up to Greenland and went stag hunting or a caribou hunting. They hunt caribou in Greenland. It was beautiful, man. The area they were at was fucking gorgeous. It was incredible. It was like these insane hills and these herd of caribou come through. And there's just so many caribou, it's so beautiful. Yeah, it's so clean, they're just, they're camping. No, get a chick filet up there. No, fuck it. Get a free way in a chick filet. You ever have caribou? No, I can't compete with chick filet. Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. I don't know, I've never had caribou.

2:13:00Oh, I want to go back. This thing of like, I mean, America's done a great deal. It's very free. But the rate of change in the culture is also unparalleled. Like you look at the Egyptians and they're doing the same pictures for thousands of you, the feet all point in the same way and we don't mess with the artistic style. We like the medieval era, there's like a, there's a homogeneity through time and a culture that gets passed on. If you look at America of the last 70 years, it's wacky. Like, a couple nights ago I was watching like the number one song in America consecutively on YouTube. So like they play 20 seconds from that number one song and then the next number one song.

2:13:37And early on, it's all like guys and suits going, my baby, she's so beautiful. I love her. I'm going to take her to a dance. And then by the end, it's like, you know, I'm a fist -ass and kill someone with my wife like it's, there's a huge shift. Like all the institutions are, are stensive with the same, the way people vote, the way people go to school, the actual culture that's inhabiting all those things is like radically changing all the time. All the time. Yeah. And there's a bunch of different factors, right? So you have the 1950s factor, you know, which was like Elvis on television and Buddy Holly and all these people.

2:14:13And the drugs come in and then the drugs come in. And so they were probably doing drugs back then too, but just probably not the good ones. And then the 1960s psychedelics. So the 1960s, you get Hendrix, you know, you get the doors, you get... Oh, when the door's comfortable. When the Beatles and the Doors and the Stones come through. It's like, here are the first cool people ever. First cool people ever. And so then that all dries up when they pass the laws in the 1970s through the Nixie administration to kill the civil rights movement and to kill the anti -war movement, make everything illegal.

2:14:42Then you get the cocaine era. So cocaine ruins music. The 1980s was like, there's some great music in the 80s, but there's also... Tosk is a great album. There's a lot of horseshit in the 80s too. There's still brilliant artists. There's always gonna be brilliant artists, but there's a lack of that psychedelic progression that Hendrix style... That would definitely shifts into a weird... Everything gets weird, dude. Everything gets weird. Yeah. And by the 80s, the late 80s, they figured it out. They figured it out how to appropriate the counterculture thing and put a corporate look on it. Well, it was cocaine.

2:15:13They killed the psychedelics and it entered into an area of cocaine. Like you see movies get real weird. Yeah. A lot of movies are like real stupid. They don't make any sense. They're dumb as shit. And then you go back to 1963 and you see the hustler and you say, well, why were they so good back then? Oh, right. Why were so many of these movies so shit? Early 20s. Yeah. Early Frank Capra just watches like a normal modern film. Yeah, there's some great movies, man. But when you started comedy, was this early 90s? 88. 88. So you, they would have been a period like, it seems like cocaine was big in American comedy circles for a time.

2:15:50Oh, it was big, but I treated. Yeah. But it disappeared at a certain. It doesn't disappear everywhere. There's some places that are still, they love the coke. I don't run into active drug addicts very often. Well, there's people who are in cocaine. They don't last. Yeah. The weed comics last. The fucking coke comics don't last. Hero and people keep going. Well, to the don't. Yeah, but the red hot chili peppers look great. They've been preserving. I think they're clean. I think they're clean for a long time. I think they did pick it from time to. You think so? I don't know. I think I have to, by the way, I think they, but they were a heroin band for ages.

2:16:22Yeah. Igee pop. I don't know if he's still on heroin, but he's looking. Oh, he's terrible. Poor Igee. He looks so, but he looked that way 30 years ago. He's like, I was a copy. He looked like a weird old man. But he looked old 30 years ago, but he had like, he was lean. Yeah. He moved around on stage with a shirt off, but now he looks like he's a barely walk. Yeah, it's like something's wrong with his head. Did you see the ACDC one that was like last week? You got to see Igee pop first. How bad? I'd saw Igee pop like 10 years ago and he was great. He's great. No, dude. I had to kick a woman in a mosh pit.

2:16:52I was, he was dragging, he was saying, come on stage, everybody. And I tried to go. One of my favorite green room songs is passenger. Yeah. Fucking great song, man. After the show? I couldn't listen to passenger before a show, but to say it. Really? Yeah. All right. I'm a passenger. What's he look like now? Is he 20, 23? Yeah. He's just good in the face? No, no. Like, he's still killing it. It's just he has a hard time getting around. It looks like there's something. Oh, yeah. See, like, that's like he's got spine -abifited, man. I think he's got something wrong with his hip or something, which is super common, especially for performers who dance around on stage.

2:17:27He's a real man. He's a real man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, see. So he's having a hard time moving. Still killing it. But like, let me hear some of that. Check out after that, bring up the ACDC at the moment. It's very...

2:17:46OK, he's very old. I threw this center at night. Where's he in the center? He's right back side. It's just he's still got something. He's got it. He's still Iggy Pop. But his body's struggling. And like, I know a lot of guys, like Ted Nuget had to get both his knees replaced, because he was jumping off amplifiers. Yeah. Maynard from Tool, he had to get his hip or placed. His hip was fucked up. So when Neil Diamond had the right plan, just stand there. Just sing you beautiful songs. You can do that forever. Yeah, that's a good move. Now they all get. It's hard, man. You're bouncing around on a stage all the time, and stopping the ground.

2:18:25Like Anthony Kedis, his knees all fucked up, man. He like, I want to see them. Still looks great. He's great. He killed it. We went to see the chili peppers when they were in town. And then afterwards, he's got an ice that's not up real bad. You know, he's still on stage though. I don't notice it. Every time someone says they don't like the chili peppers, I distress them immediately. Suck my kiss. This is a fucking great song. That whole album is not to finish. I found a different video of them. ACDC this year. I think that one video was sold. It's just kind of weird thing. All right. He looks okay in this one.

2:18:55It's 2025. Yeah. There was a viral video going around where they looked a little slow. Now he's still got it. I'll take it back. Yeah. But this is, I mean, if you were a classical composer, you just get to be old and where your big padded wig and keep riding till the 80s as a rock star, a big part of it is that you've physically threatening and that women want to have sex with you, right? Like this is, this is fine. Have you seen Mick Chaggers girlfriend? Yes. She's a beautiful baby. She's so hot. She's so hot. And she's like 30 or something like that. And he's 2000. I got to meet Al Pacino's baby mama.

2:19:35But, but, but you gotta see the pictures of Mick with the girl. With the lady? Yeah. This is the one. What's that? This is the one that went viral. But he's just stomping on stage. No, that's the way he sang. Oh. Let me hear it.

2:19:56ACDC urged a retire after recent concert footage goes viral at all. Let me hear it. Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, He does seem tired. I don't think he should have to retire. But, I'm still playing alongside. He probably is still all right. That's our greatest export. That's for sure. We've never done anything that great before, since. Listen, guys get old. It's hard to come up with the full power always when you hit that age. But what was the point? Oh, Mick Jagger and his new girl. He's Fly Honey? Oh, she's so hot. And he's at least a million years old.

2:20:34He? How old is he? Yeah, I got to see him like 10 years ago and he seemed all damnit. He was still groovin. Oh, dude, I saw him in town as well. I saw him at the circuit of the Americas. They did this gigantic outdoor concert. It was fucking incredible. Look at her. BAM, son. What's up now? Dude, she's so hot. And she's like, I can't believe I'm with Mick Jagger. That's what talent does. He seems happy as well. He seems thrilled. I would imagine that would make you happy. I mean, yeah, but then she's talking about a young woman things and you just want to read the financial times and pace and.

2:21:09I don't know, man. Maybe that's why he's so good still. Maybe he stays young. He's still hip -toed. They fucking killed it, man. They killed it at Coda, Al Pacino. I, she was backstage, and I, another kid. I got another one. Yeah. Another one. I got dragged away when I met her because people thought I was going to ask weird stuff. So this is a new gal. Oh boy. He's 85. Holy. He still looks good. What do you want me to do? He's got a grudder. I mean, they, wow, she's hot. It does start to look like you're, oh, they split. I think that's the one I met. That was the one that he split with, but he's got another one.

2:21:46Wow. Good for him. He loves Braden. He's still at the donut. Listen, don't give Elon shit. Don't give him shit. I just like it down the old fashioned way. I like the Genghis Khan written his way across the steppe. I fear. Also, like Elon's in, he's one of the only billionaires who allows himself to be seen and judged and thought about. But if we had at least of the top 100 richest people in the world, we would know eight of them. Like these, the hidden figures who are off doing that. That's what I feel. Well, the real richest people in the world are probably the oil bits. The sounds. Yeah. Because they don't even have to tell you how much money they have.

2:22:23Yeah. That's their building and ice. Yeah. What? The bargaining room in the desert. That's right. Bro, they're building that, that the line. Have you seen that? Yeah, I thought the lady that's going to be nice. Maybe we'll be able to have so much money that can make it nice. Yeah. Look what they did to Dubai. You ever see those like time -lapse photos of Dubai? But they didn't even put, you can't even go to the toilet in that in the Burj Khalifa. What do you mean? They didn't put like, it's so big, they couldn't get plumbing to work it. So they have like trucks come along and pick up the poo from downstairs every day and have to drive it out.

2:23:02Like it seems like a fake. Oh, that's an error. So that needs to be fired. Somebody's probably killed. Someone has been quietly chopped into pieces. Oh, 100%. Right? They've got, because how are you going to fix that? The Burj Khalifa's like, how many stories? It's too big. And it's all buckets of shit being carried out? I believe, I could be getting that wrong. Someone told me that they have like, semi -trails that come by in the morning. Is it a hug? I take it back, I got one wrong. I was right about the foot binding. I was right about. Which probably added that out so they don't kill you. No, it's a, hey, I love the kingdom of sound.

2:23:36I'm a big fan. I could be got on Compromise. So he sent me a new car. I'll say great things about the regime. No one has come to me. Not even someone selling dick pills or nothing. I want to get to that level. It's common. It's a, I don't say, I, come on bro, more appearances like this and it'll all happen. I'll be doing gamble, I'll be doing draft kings. Yeah, there you go. And I think I could, I'm trying to figure out what companies I would have on my podcast and wouldn't. Do you gamble at all? Yeah, but I don't like the companies. I like, you know, regular gambling. Regular, but yeah, money for this, it's ruined footy in Australia.

2:24:15How does it? I think whether, now I will, I will be right on this with Australia's the highest per capita gambling losses in the world. Wow. And it's, we've been beat Singapore. We shouldn't be beaten the Asian countries. Asians should have gambling down pat. Is that because you don't have a red footy in any other place or you want to be crazy? I think so. I think everything is so safe that it's like, I've got to lose everything on this. You go crazy on that one thing. We gamble. Yeah. Because booze is expensive. And but then the way that they advertise on you, you always have to see the line.

2:24:43You can't watch a game of football with someone because they go, that don't just want their team to win anymore. They want like this guy to get 27 disposals. And the second goal of the game. It's like, just, I want to watch footy. But gambling is very exciting. Yeah, there's a thing like that in MMA too. You know, it's a, it's a big factor in MMA. I think like if your guy gets, you know, he wins, but by submission, then you're upset because he didn't knock the other guy out and you lost money. There's like the Drake thing too, because Drake spent, he, he bets like the rapid. The rapid. Big money on the UFC.

2:25:13And did he bet on Charles Oliver or Ilya Tuporia? That was nutty. Oh my gosh. Also, it was, that was the first one of those of what since I met you. He bet 200 grand on Charles. Yeah, see, that's, they called the Drake curse. There's a website that you're having bets on, Cuzz, damn. Yeah, Drake. You have to see betting history. Returned zero dollars. Who is he? Not Chris when it comes to UFC overall though. He's up a million bucks. Oh, all time from his public UFC bets, from his public ones, over 25 bets. He's wagered 13 .45 million dollars. Returning 14 .48. Yeah, but everyone, he's like 10 out of those 25 bets.

2:25:51He's got 15 times. You go public when you win. Interesting. It's a guy who comes back to the office on Monday. Look at that. He's only one 40 % of the time. His average UFC bet size is 538K. That's interesting though, because he's only one 40 % of the time. He just bets big when he's sure. And so he's ahead. His biggest single loss was, I was at a Sanja to beat Alex Pereira in 22, the one that Pereira won, the first one. Single bet victory was John Jones over Cyril Gone. Successfully predicting John Jones to win by submission. Interesting. Hold on, but this is a whole website dedicated to it. He could have sent this out.

2:26:38No, no, it's probably. He's betting on cricket. Yeah. Why is he betting on cricket? He likes to bet, dude. He's rich as fuck. Bet on the... He gets his jolly off, like throwing large numbers at stuff. He's great bets on cricket, returning 2 .65 mil. So he's ahead. Three for three. So he knows what he's doing. There you go. He's making money. Yeah, but you always bet on the royals in the cricket. Well, if you're gonna bet though, betting on sports where you actually know the game, that's a smart thing to bet on. Like, I bet if I bet on fighting, I bet I'd be right 60 % of the time. You'd be, they'd be a, you have a deal with, I'd say.

2:27:14Don't you dare. Oh, no, you can. The UFC won't let you. But that was only recent, man. That was recent because there was an accusation that one of the trainers had been posting on some website and that they knew that this guy was injured. Yeah. And the guy lost in the first round. There's a bunch of money. That's not. On him losing in the first round because he had a blown out knee. I think there was a footy player in Australia who was betting on himself to kick goals. Which was like, not like you have to, he was backing himself and it was like $15 or something. He was very small, but he just, you got in trouble for that?

2:27:46You got in trouble for that. Even though like, He's been on himself to do well. I think if you bet on yourself to win, that should be legal. I think I bet on the Eurovision Song Contest. That's my go -to. Fighters have made like personal bets with each other. Like I'll bet you the best. I think that's first. Yeah, that makes it more exciting. Yeah. But there's definitely room for, if there's room for someone to throw it, that's an issue. That is an issue. That's an issue with fighters. You're a visioner. You're a good bet. If you found out that a fighter bet against himself, oh god, or the trainer bet against the fighter, which hasn't happened before.

2:28:16That has happened before. It was like anonymous back in the day, like in the old boxing days, like people could throw fights and, you know, that chases all the time. That was it. On the wood of front. That's why. Yep, yep, yep, my own brando. That also, that is 100 % happened in MMA, especially in Japan. In Japan, the early days, there was a lot of fixed fights. And you could kind of tell some of them, you watch them, you're like, oh my god, that's fixed. But it would be like, because a lot of the Japanese stars originally in pride came from the world of pro wrestling. Yes. Where they had determined outcomes.

2:28:51Yeah. And so some of these guys were stars, and there's a few fights that they had as stars where it was a fixed fight. But like that Logan Paul, Mike Tyson fight. Yeah. He could have knocked him out earlier, and clearly was choosing not to. I mean, he bows to him at the end. It seemed to me like sparring. Yeah. When I watched it, which, you know, look, I paid for it, they got me. I thought it was going to be a real fight, but I'm not mad because I'm just happy that Mike Tyson made a ton of money. Yeah. And I'm happy for Jake Paul that he made it to, and look, if he decided not to try to hurt Mike Tyson at 58 years old.

2:29:25Sure. But there's some guy at there who had a million dollars on. That's the problem. That's why, look, maybe it was a real fight. Maybe that's just the level that they both fight at. Hmm. But it didn't. You know, it seemed a little sus, you know. It was, I mean, it seemed to be like that. It was like that in the green room, I think. And we couldn't get it. Couldn't get it going. Yeah. But I think that, you know, at the end of the day, it's okay. It does bother me. It's a different, that's a different situation than someone like Terrence Crawford fighting Kenel Loavras. And I don't think that that fights legit.

2:29:58If I saw that and I didn't think it was legit, I'd be furious. Like you guys are in your prime. These are the best fighters on planet Earth. We're finally going to get to see you guys box. And then I, and you through a fight. But that's not what's going on, you know. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul was the most heavily wagered fight in years. Okay, that's a problem. That makes it a problem. My opinion is, I just want to say, in case someone calls me into court, I'm a fucking idiot and I don't know nothing. And don't take my advice. I love the saddies. I love the Israeli government. I love everyone. I'm not going to do it, damn.

2:30:29That was Jake Paul promoting it. You know, it's just like, it doesn't bother me. There's compromising the sport and that's like bad. It's just like, if I bet on watching it, watching it with people who are so in on it. And then also the cut, like, man, the sports betting apps, they've like, they introduced like chat apps in the ministry. So it's like, they're trying to take the place of social media companies where you go together and you meet your friends. Like betting should be exciting enough without having a weird power social thing. They're just trying to make money, right? So they're trying to draw you in anywhere they can.

2:31:00Yeah. Yeah. When I was a first starting to work for the UFC, I bet a bunch of times because, and then I thought, like, I probably shouldn't do this. But I couldn't, I was thinking, I was justifying in my head. I was like, I can't affect the outcome. Yeah. It wasn't a rule. It doesn't matter how you're calling it. It's not gonna. I'm not gonna change. And also, like, I like the fights and I'm not gonna bet that much anyway. But then my business partner on it and I, Aubrey, he would bet on things I would tell him to bet on. He was up like 80 % at one time. Yeah. Because in the early days, like, in the early, like, 2000s -ish, when they're bringing in guys from, like, Japan and Russia, there was a lot of dudes that I knew about that the bookmakers didn't know about.

2:31:44Yeah. Like, when Anderson Silva came over to America, I was like, bet the house. Bet everything on Anderson. I mean, bet everything. Because Chris Lieben, who's a great fighter, is tailor -made for that style. And Anderson is one of the nastiest strikers that's ever competed in the sport. He's so good and so accurate. And he just ran through Chris Lieben in the first round. I was like, called it. Because there's certain fights where you're like, this guy's special, like Ilya Toporia. Like, Ilya Toporia is fighting a regular guy like, bet the house on the spaniard. Bet the house. Like, that guy's special.

2:32:21There's like, when Alex Pereira first came to the UFC, I was telling everybody, bet the house on the Brazilian. I'm like, if he touches you, you go into orbit. Yeah. He's just different. This is a different guy. And you just have to know about that before the bookies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but people knew about Pereira sort of, but they didn't have a lot of evidence of him being that good in MMA. They had one fight in the LFA. There was another fight before that where you lost by submission. I think maybe had one other win, but it was the kickboxing. So I'm a big kickboxing fan. And in kickboxing, he was a two division world champion in glory, which is like the elite kickboxing league.

2:32:57But the thing wasn't that he was winning. It was how he was winning. Yeah. He was flat lining people. But you have to have actually watched the fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd have to watch. You also also be able to critically analyze his movements. They're just different. He's just doing something. He moves different than people. And when he hits guys, it's like, holy shit, man. Yeah. They can all knock each other out. They're all elite fighters. I mean, I watched that all of aero fight. And so I was, we were with Nate, Nate's team in San Jose. Someone says, this man's the man who knocked him out.

2:33:33He's like, his punch is incredible. No one knows this. Like within the, they were all saying like, this is an easy ant. All the various going to lose because of this man's. And then when he hits him in the head, you go, because he knocks him out on the first punch. And then catches him on the second and hits him twice after that. But it's like, if you're just, I don't know about fighting. And then watching that, I couldn't believe he was knocked out from it. Didn't look like it should have had that impact. Oh, it should for sure. Yeah. When you watch the punch being delivered in slow motion, it looks everything like a knockout punch.

2:34:02He throws his punches with so much conviction. There's so much torque and they're so perfect. Like his whole body, he's coming in. It's the coordination of the mechanics of his movements. So like, that's a big part of, he also has very big fists. But that's a big part, especially for 145. And even in 155, like he's undersized compared to like, guys like Rufi, who's like six two, there's like some elite guys that are big in that way class. But the way he delivers his punches, it's like you just can't get hit by him, man. He's got so much commitment and soap. The timing is so perfect when he went, BLAM what that right here.

2:34:42That had everything on it. No one's eating that shot. No one. No one. He's got the, what Ferrasahabiliks to call the touch of death. It's the perfect name for it. It's like he hits guys. They're just done, man. They're done. That seems to be the greatest three fight win streak in the history of the sport. He knocks out Alexander Volkanovsky, Max Holloway, and then Charles Oliver. It's the greatest three fight win streak in the history of the sport. And Volkanovsky's currently the champ. So he'll, he has now, he has to do it. He came back, but that's at 45 though. Okay. So he went up to 55. So Volkanovsky's the champ, because he abandoned the belt at 45, because he wanted to pursue the belt at 55.

2:35:23He didn't want to make weight at Ilya. Didn't want to make 145 more. So it felt like it's too draining for his body. And he'd be even better at 55. Turns out he was right. He's even better at 55. Like Charles Oliver here is really good, man. Really good. For him to starch him like that with essentially one punch is extraordinary. But he called it, which is even crazier. He said I'm gonna knock him out with one punch. I'm gonna knock him out in the first round. And he also, he had a celebration for his victory the night before the fight. So he went to a restaurant. He's standing on a bench. They're cheering.

2:35:57That is cool. No, I mean, listen, if you're that good. And he's gonna fight the, the Scassa? The Scassa kept saying, yeah. Scassa kept going, I want him. And then nights Tim would go like, he thinks he wants him. He doesn't want him. It'll probably happen eventually, because they hate each other. And it'd be very marketable. I don't know if it's gonna happen next. There's my first year talking. I'm starting that. My brother watches it a lot. There's a lot of really good guys at 155 though. If you wanted to look, if you wanted to do it according to like who deserves the shot, it would be in my mind, it would be either Justin Gagy who is a very compelling argument for deserving the shot.

2:36:34He was the interim champion. Beat the shit. He essentially like changed the progression of Tony Ferguson's career. Like that one. Spending knock on the man. Just beat him down. And it was a brutal, brutal fight. And then, you know, I mean, he's got so many victories. He just beat Fazeev again after getting knocked out by Holloway. He's one of the best of the best. And, you know, he's fought for the title before. He fought, he fought, Kabeb. He's fucking really good, man. But what would stop him? And he's a big star and he also deserves it. The other guy would be Armantz Aruki. Armantz Aruki and was supposed to fight Islam for the title, but got a back injury supposedly because of the weight cut.

2:37:16He had a particularly brutal weight cut and is backlocked up to the point where he couldn't even fucking move. And so they had to call the fight. And so then they brought in Hanatomuikano and he fought for the title. Like last minute replacement. So Saurukian is elite. He's as good as he gets. And he could be a world champion. And so if I wanted to do it according to not marketability, but rather like who deserves it, it would be their Gage or Saurukian. How often does that come into it as opposed to the marketability? I don't do that, man. That's the thing. It's like I'm not involved. I would not be the right guy for the business.

2:37:52Yeah. Because I would, I'm kind of a purist. I feel like if you're the number one contender, you get the shot. Like that's how I feel. But I also don't know if I agree who the number one contender is all the time. I think like that should be up for debate. Like it's very subjective. Like who decides like what victories count for more? Or who'd be more compelling to fight for the title? Who deserves it? Like some guys have to fight a ton of guys. And then other guys like Pereira, he got a shot at Adesanya, like just a few fights in. Yeah. But this is what then kills. This hurts boxing is when like you have a champ who just repeatedly takes on people that they can walk over to extend.

2:38:30There's a little bit of that. But because of UFC is all, yeah, it's one thing. The UFC makes you fight the big fights. And if you don't want to fight the big fights, like John Jones didn't want to fight Tom Aspinall. Like then they can strip it. Well, he didn't strip him. John just retired. But I think John just decided to retire legitimately. I think he's, you know, he's partying a lot. He had a long career and needs the grace of all time. Like at a certain point in time, you have to say enough. And in 37 as the heavyweight champion retiring, undefeated, that's probably a good move. You know, he's got one loss, but it's a bullshit.

2:39:02Have you seen those light Muhammad Ali interviews where he's going back? He's going back again and people are begging him. You don't have to do this. It's over. It's fine that it's over. You're the greatest. That's fine. He never had any money, man. How did he not have any money? Because he got ripped off. He got ripped off, man. He got ripped off. And a lot of these like wild, impulsive dudes, they spend all their money. Tyson spent hundreds of millions. Yeah. He bought tigers and shit. He was joking around about it. He had Lamborghinis and tigers and mansions. You know, a mansion in Ohio that he's just abandoned.

2:39:34Oh, it's... And like you could go and like there was an online tour of this mansion and you can go and like online, like someone broke into the mansion, took photos of it and everything. There's a guy who did that with Kanye's mansion in LA recently. There's an Aussie, he's written a book about John Safran, who's one of our best. Really? Yeah, he wrote a book about... He's dressed past? He wrote a book about squatting in Kanye's mansion. He's like, he just came in through the shrubs out the back and I finished the book, sitting in Kanye's house. He was always doing wild stuff. He was a filmmaker.

2:40:03He like ran naked through the streets of Jerusalem, I think. Jesus Christ. What else did he got crucified in the Philippines? Crucified, like on a cross? Yeah, like at Easter, they ritualist... They really drive nails three hands, but they crucified people in the Philippines. Yeah. He did that. He went and got for the season finale of one of his shows. He got crucified in the Philippines. Oh my God, what a fucking nut. He's wild. He's a very exciting... What's his name? John Safran. Yeah, he is the man. He has... He has maybe a good podcast guy. He stole a lot of Eurasian women's underpants to see if he liked the smell of them better.

2:40:35Oh, fuck this guy. Why? He's stealing chicks underwear instead of... No, and then he like, he took other underpants that were not Eurasian to see if he was attracted to. He stole his Eurasian friends underpants. Jewish Australian comedian journalist. That's a lot. Yeah. I spent a week living in one of West's homes in Los Angeles. This is what he... As if Kanye didn't hate Jews enough. Well, I've never heard him speak on this. I've never heard him speak on John Safran. He didn't get a funny though. That a Jewish guy's the guy who squatted in his house. I think that's what he did it. I think he was like...

2:41:04Oh, that's hilarious. No, he's wild. That's hilarious. Yeah, he was crazy. Now he's writing books, but his documentary series were great. He was in a show called Race Around the World and everyone else would take it very seriously. They had six aspiring filmmakers. You know what the nuttiest spending of money was? Was a vendor. A vendor, Holyfield. It was the heavyweight champion of the world. He made the biggest fucking house. It was an insanely huge house. And then I think he sold it to Rick Ross, the rapper. But the house is insane. I don't know how much it cost. I mean, I don't know how much it cost.

2:41:42I don't even want to guess. But it's the craziest house I've ever seen in my life. It's like a house that you would say if I'm the baddest mother fucker on earth and I want the baddest fucking house on earth. See a gypsy? He's a vendor, Holyfield. I don't know. You don't know who a vendor Holyfield is? Oh my God, I want the greatest heavyweight's of all time. Have you seen the gypsy? He hasn't beat Mike Tyson. A vendor Holyfield beat Mike Tyson when he was Mike Tyson. I know, they're a little about. He knocked him out. He stopped him. And then he went and bought a... And then Mike Tyson bit his ear off.

2:42:08I was the second fight. The ear -biting guy. That was the second fight. I didn't know about the ear -biting. That was after Tyson beat him up in the first fight. The second fight he bit his ear. Was he losing the second fight? Tyson was losing. Yeah, that's why he did that. But show a vendor Holyfield's house. Look at this place. Bro. 44 ,234 square feet and has 109 rooms. Actually, very tight. Including 135 foot, excuse me, 135 seat theater, a bowling alley and a dining room that accommodates 100 people. Where is it? So large, they named the highway on which it sits. A vendor Holyfield highway.

2:42:46That's crazy. That's it. I thought it would be bad. No, no, no, it's not bad. No, it's gorgeous. It cost 200 estimated worth of 230 million in 94. Look at that, the wood paneling. In 94, around that time, he had an estimated, oh, excuse me, around that time, he had an estimated worth of 230 million. It's an amazing house. I mean, it's fucking spectacular. And now Rick Ross the rapper lives there, which is like the perfect rapper house. You gotta spend it on. But see if you can even look at that. Look at that. Oh, it's gorgeous. It's a giant piece of land, too. I think it's 105 acres. See if you can see it in the image of it from the out.

2:43:27Yeah, that one way, like look at that. It does look like the Georgia neighborhood. If you're a vendor, Holyfield, that's the kind of house you wanna live in. When you're the baddest motherfucker alive. Look at that place. So beautiful. I get hung up on Holyfield. It's holyfield. Yeah. I, the yachts, I like looking at the super yachts. I look like a Jeff Bezos super yacht. Oh, they're nuts. But this house is fucking incredible. You'd feel so lonely. Rick Ross bought buffaloes and shit. You have your friends live in there. Yeah, but you got buffaloes. You get buffaloes on there now. Oh, that's cool.

2:43:56He's got his own buffaloes. That dope is fuck. That's such a rapper move. Have your own buffaloes on your property? I love it. Rick Ross, thanks his neighbors for helping him return his buffaloes. He's got his Rick Rosses hanging out. They wandered over. Helping him return his wander buffaloes. I want you to hire some cowboys to bring his fucking animals back home. Yeah, no one needs them. Why not? Maybe you do. Maybe if you become fucking huge and you start doing arenas in America, and you develop an insane amount of money, and also you got your rafts at your house. Very high. Very high. Very high.

2:44:31I thought you weren't going to go full Rick Ross. No. I mean, I would go. I feel very lucky that I got the open fashion and he lives very humbly. Yeah. But you're not going to get him. Matt still drives his old car. You're going to get a big fancy car. You're going to go crazy. I would like a Rolls Royce. Shame lives humbly, but he's also got a Mercedes -Benz ass class. I was in a high school. This is Mike Tyson. He sounds like got a band in. Giant TV. Oh, so many broke it? Oh, yeah, they broke it. They mean it was a band in for a long time. They broke all the shit. That's crazy. People would just break into his house when he wasn't there.

2:45:03So did he just leave it there? Or did he just... Well, I mean, he probably kind of sell it and no one bought it, so that makes it a band and you know. I think Michael Jordan's house, he sold it a loss because of everything he'd done to it. Some guys just actually bought it and recently... Recycled an Airbnb. He tried to take the shoe gate off. He'd like, the gate was a pair of Jordan's with him. That house is only worth 1 .1 million. That's how crazy... After it's out for it. Oh, after it's out for it. It's how much work you have to do to fix it back up. Bro, if I lived in that town and I found out Mike Tyson's house is for sale, I'd be like, let's go.

2:45:34He's been a lot of fendin' like that. Let's go. You think so? In a high school? In the abandoned mansion. Yeah, but I'll just use some siege. I'll clear that out of there. Someone did sage last night. Backstage. He left in that. There was an odour backstage last night and I came off stage and it was gone. And I, yeah, God, we're curious if we burned sage. I didn't know there was a big sage in that room. I think someone might have just, I won't name who it was, but someone might have lifted a terrible smell. Oh. I think someone was, uh... That definitely happens in that room. There was a lot of people eating weird food that gets delivered to that room.

2:46:10Yeah, I mean, I... Oh man. Camp Patterson, I don't want to... I should've said just a guy. I shouldn't have added it as Camp Patterson. But he farted? No, when he headlined, he bought like... He bought like enough fried chicken for 50 people and it was just me and his... It was like one of the first times I was hanging out with all black people in America. I was just quietly... Was it gusses? Did they get it from gusses? It was like, no. I don't know where it was from. It was huge and it was beautiful. And I thought, I didn't know. We had to do that. An headlining? Do we have to get food for everybody?

2:46:41No, it's not. No, I love it. You could definitely order food. I love it if you ever want a headline there. Or do you food? Well, I... Man, I have had good meals in that green room. Yeah, we too. We get Terry Blacks delivered all the time. We'd have Nottadayne Chants, Nottadayne Chants Burgers. Brian Simpson ordered ramen and didn't want to eat the eggs. And then he looked at me funny. He said, I don't want these. And I said, I'll eat them. Why not, man? There's also a kind of a food... There's a pizza place next door and there's a chick fly way down the road. It's a really good taco truck up the street, too.

2:47:11And the diddy dog is good. There's a lot of things in vans. But I am more suspicious of eating out of trucks and vans now than I used to be. I've had enough experience. What I like is the Mexicans doing the weird hot dogs with... Like, whatever. They've got huge onions and capsicum. Oh, yeah. I go for that. You're hot sauce guy. I love... I just like those men. Yeah. Like, a thousand things on a little hot plate. There's less of them now there than there used to be. Well... Who can say why? I hope they can come back. Well, what will we all say? Hi there. It's a... That was... I'd always... There was always a contingent of the American...

2:47:48Like, people chatting on cable news who would say that illegal immigration wasn't a huge thing. And that people were inflating the numbers. And then when I got here and I... No one warned me. But I was like, setting up a house and went to a home depot in the morning. And it was like... I know it was like 150 guys. Just out there... I mean, this is all the hat. The Americans don't talk about it anymore because you've just all known for decades. This is what happens out front of a home depot. Well, especially LA. If you go to LA, it was way higher numbers in LA, I think. Texas actually has some pretty high numbers too though.

2:48:19They just... They have to figure out a pathway to citizenship for these folks. An amnesty for people that have been here in established... Getting in the front door is a bitch. Yeah, it's hard. It's a... And also, a lot of people are good people. Good people, hard workers. What I liked is that the home bridge is at front of the home depot. A lot of them were like pro -American gear. Like big American hats and bold eagle shirts. It's things that's like, I'm gonna be the most pro -American. Yeah. Well, they just need a pathway. Let's make sure that they're not cartel members and criminals and murderers.

2:48:48That seems easy. Yeah. It seems like it's doable. And it's also they're valuable. Like, these are people that come over here with ambition. That's what this country wants. But why would anyone... It's a better life. I think if you poll the Americans, like huge numbers of people would support that. I agree. So why doesn't anybody... It's a good question. Why can't anybody get it together? Well, the thing is, it was... I think it's an over correction. Because it was so bad for the last four years where they had an open border. Yeah. And they were encouraging people to come in. They were encouraging people.

2:49:18They were helping people. They were moving people to swing states. The problem is when you have more... They're admitting it. Yeah. I watched the fedeman one way. He was going... I mean, what you got to do. Yeah. It made it... It's crazy. It's crazy. Because the thing is it affects elections in more ways than one. Even if they can't vote, it affects the amount of congressional seats. Yeah. Dependent upon the population, regardless of whether that population is legal or illegal. So if you have 20 million people in a place, you get a certain amount of congressional seats. Regardless of if they're reasonable.

2:49:46I mean, that's... That's where things get weird. That's the reality of politics in America. And they wanted to stop that. And the Democrats did not. The Democrats wanted that to keep going. That was one of the things that Trump ran on. But then also he gets in. He's like, can we get the White South Africans out here immediately? Can we move a million White South Africans to Arizona? Yeah, that's true. Because you're bringing them in, but you're not bringing the persecuted Mexicans in. Like, okay. It seems like a pathway would be... But it's also like... The things I had to do to get in here with.

2:50:15The Africa thing is nuts, man. The South Africa thing. They're killing the farmers. People wanted to deny that that existed. I have seen the rally. They killed the board, killed the farmer. He's doing it. I've seen it. He's seeing it. I was saying... He goes, I was saying, he's... I said, he's the goal. Right. With his cold dead eyes. He's a spooky cat. Yeah. I forget his name. He's... Yeah. Yeah, they got some things to sort out. Indeed. Well, listen, the cat... I'm glad you're in America. That's a Johnny me. Johnny me. Johnny me. Johnny Bones said, I just re -entered the testing pool that lasted about two weeks.

2:50:52Figured we keep everyone's options open. A lot of the fighters are tweeting right now. They're very excited about fighting on the White House lawn. Oh, that's right. They're going to fight on the White House lawn. July 4th, 2026 White House lawn. I knew about it. I kept it under my hat for months. Sorry, people. They're going to fight on the Rose Garden? They're going to fight on the White House lawn. 20 ,000 people. 25 ,000. Conor's in. It's the... Yeah. He says he's going to be the president of Ireland by the next year. Ehh. That's right on. He's chosen a weird time to run. Yeah. But... The world's weird.

2:51:23We can't help you to death, brother. Thank you for being here. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Been awesome having you around for real. You're a fucking great guy. If I said anything crazy, I didn't mean it. You're very, very funny, too. And if anyone hasn't seen you, you stand up. Go see him. I can't recommend you enough. You've changed my life. Can I say something touching at the end? Okay. All right. I mean, I was poor. No opportunities. I got past at that club. And it's revolutionized. I get to pay my rent on time. I get to do comedy often. And people are nice about it. This is... It's been very, very strange.

2:51:57And I couldn't have done it if you hadn't seen that club. Well, I appreciate that very much. And that's the whole reason why we set it up. The way we set it up in the first place. We wanted to make it a place where that can happen. And like I said about like open -micres that are good. They just never saw a path and couldn't figure it out. I think we can save some of those people in the future. I think we can lessen the attrition rate and we can make better comics. And make a real supportive community, which is what we're really doing. And that was the whole goal of the place. Just to make the best club possible.

2:52:28And the best club possible has to have development. You have to have people coming up that are really good. It's like, that's the key that a lot of these improps and stuff they miss. They don't have a night where you can just a bunch of people are doing 15 minutes. They don't develop a local community. And so they only rely on the headliners to come in on the weekend. And the rest of the show is you have various headliners do one night or two nights or something like that. Which is fine occasionally. But the reality is you want a vibrant development community. And if you don't have that, you're not going to get new talent.

2:52:59You're only going to have import talent every weekend. But there's three cities in all of America where you can reliably do it. It just gets me to. Yeah, this is changing. Yeah. And Shane brought me over here. I want to shout him out. Because he was in Ohio. I was having a good time. But I was. No. There was nothing happen for me. And then the fact that there is a place that you can come and if you're going to work hard and do it. Well, I mean, that's insane. It's awesome. Ah, look, I don't want to go on about it. We're happy to have you, brother. I'm very touched. Thank you. God bless you. Tell everybody your Instagrams that can follow you.

2:53:33At JDF McCann. The James Donald Fools McCann. And Katamaran Plan. That's a great podcast that everybody should check out. I think that's it. I think that's it. That's it. That's it. Okay. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you, brother. Bye, everybody.