#2354 - Joe DeRosa

25:03I know you're not asking me to do that, but have some euphoric discussion about crack cocaine. I think this might be kind of the opposite here. Okay, no, it's the exact opposite. I'm saying I don't want to have the experience of some euphoric recall. That's how powerful crack cocaine is. Does crack cocaine make you act any differently? No. Is it safer than alcohol? Probably. People think of crack as being dirty. It's the exact opposite. When you make crack, what you're doing is you're burning off all the impurities so that it combines with the... Starting by carbonate, which makes it smokeable.

25:38That's all. You know, all of these actors and, you know, people in the past that talked about... They had a problem with cocaine and free -basing. And they were smoking crack. So straw on the stove is the same thing? Not exactly, but close to it. But it's a little bit different. But anyway, my point about it, your point about it, which I think is true, is that there's a thing about crack that is really insidious. And what it is is that any time, you know, I think one of the reasons that they believe that smoking cigarettes is so addictive is because it combines three really important things. It's habit -forming.

26:20There's an oral fixation. And there is a ritual combined with it. And so the idea of hand to mouth is a habit and a fixation that we learned very early, even as children. With a pacifier, with a spoon, with your thumb, to even to breastfeed. Okay, so that's really. And I don't want to get into the psychology of it because I'm no expert. But I do know this. Is that you combine with that ignition combustion. And then you combine the ritual. You have your cigarette in the morning. You have cigarette when you get out of the car. You have your cigarette with your coffee. Crack is that on steroids. It's over and over.

26:54Richable to it. There's a ritualized part of it. The combination of all of those addictive behaviors together becomes like really powerful. And the drug in and of itself is a more immediate euphoric sensation and connected to it than in my experience, cocaine law. Does it require more frequency to maintain the high? Yes. Yes. And the capacity to use more than you could otherwise with power cocaine just physically to be able to ingest it. Okay. Which is your guy credit? Who's the dude who's interviewing him? Andrew Callahan, channel five. Well, he nailed it. He did a great job. That's the best ad for Coke ever.

27:32It's the best. Best ad for crack ever. Yeah. And he could be president. How about that? How about that? That kid about that? That kid about that? That kid about that? He's been through, like we all, uh, his dirty laundry's all out there. We all see it. He, he was a freak. He, uh, speaking of which? It's this smart. The smarter than his dad when his dad was young. And he was a crack guy. He spoke so eloquently about crack just then. I mean, that was, by the way, you know what two words got me? What? Ignition was the first one. Yeah, Jesus. And I forget was, uh, I forget the second word, but ignition, I was like, you got my ears here.

28:10But I have a friend that smoked crack. Oh my God. I have a couple. Yeah. And I said, what was it like? Like how to describe it to me? And he goes, dude, he goes, the best way I could describe it is, imagine you are as horny as humanly possible. You have a raging heart on. And a woman sits down on your dick for two seconds and then plops off and walks away. He goes, he goes, that sensation of the thrill of that. He goes, that's the only way I could think to kind of equate like what the charge of it is and how excited you are. Jesus. And how you feel you need to immediately do it again. And when you do it again, do you have the same reaction?

28:50Or is it dumbed down? Uh, that I don't remember what he said, but I got the impression that it's kind of like, you know, it's that, right? Just on repeat. It's the broken record of that. Up and down, up and down and then big crashes. Yeah. I had a buddy in New York that smoked crack and he would have these giant crashes. One of the things that he would have to do is he would have to go to a store, like a liquor store and get a 40 ounce of malt liquor. Okay. That was how he'd calm himself down from the crack. So like a lot of times I would pick him up. I wouldn't even drop him off when he was buying the shit back then.

29:29And then when I'd get him, he'd just be like pale like cardboard and had a drink malt liquor. It's like he's about to have a fucking heart attack. But by the way, that's all it takes is one 40 ounce. I'm thinking you need to fucking mainline a bottle of Jack Daniels to even get a couple of 40s. Okay. But one 40 is really strong. Those are, those are things are crazy strong. Like malt liquor. Okay. It's kind of crazy that malt liquor is only in the hood. Kind of crazy. Yeah. Because there's a lot of beer that tastes like shit. You know, it's not like malt liquor is like a fine salm, salm, Adam's ale.

30:09Yeah. You know, malt liquor has got to, it's just there to get you fucked up and if it's cold it's tolerable. Yeah. Why is it way more popular in the hood? Yeah. It's usually very, 40s are usually very cheap. It is malt liquor but it's cheap. We used to buy 40s when I was in college. That's all we drank because it was cheap. Right. We should drink a 40 called camo. The label was camouflage. The cheapest looking camouflage design ever. And it said camo in like the army stamp. It was a dollar 50 of 40 and it was 8 .9 % alcohol. Oh my god. So college it's perfect. That's those two of those. There it is baby.

30:47I remember old English. I remember old English. And I remember, there was a bunch of them. There was a bunch of those like giant malt liquor that everybody, what were the big name ones? There were always in rap songs. Oh, dude. O .E. Yeah, old English is the big one. Apeau was called 45. Call 45. Yeah. King Cobra. Yeah. Old English 800. That was the classic. The old English 800. St .ides. Yeah, old English 800 was Apeau. That was the easy E song 8 ball. Right. You drink that stuff. You will get fucked up. Yeah. Like that's a weird gray area between liquor and beer. It tastes like shit. It tastes like you took bad beer and poured vodka in it.

31:38It's so nasty. But yet totally legal. Yeah. Which I agree with. I agree with. Totally legal. And I mean, but what you were saying though about you'll find it in the hood or whatever, it applies same thing to college kids. Dude, when you don't have a ton of cash and you want to get fucked up and for under $5 you can get two 40s. Oh, yeah. And your blitz. You got yourself a hell of a night. Hell of a night. But wait. I said earlier, the sober thing. What's that? I said, but wait. But wait, wait. I just saw the clip. I remember you telling me in the green room that you stopped drinking. Then I said the clip, are you saying it to Ron White that you think you're done?

32:22I mean, I would most certainly have a glass of wine at some point in time in my life. But as far as like regular drinking drinking every week, I'm definitely done. I, uh, you feel better. It's crazy. I mean, it seems so. It's such a simple thing to, um, Chris Williams did it first. He was like the first guy that I know that's like a podcaster that just said, it's been his biggest like life hack. His change. I was like, really, that big of a deal. And he's like, that big of a deal. He's like, really? It's like a remarkable change in the energy levels that you have. Because you're not fucking poisoning yourself all the time.

32:57Yeah. I love it. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun to get a little tipsy. That's what Ari, I remember speaking to Ari, Ari said that to me once. Because I remember when Ari got into like enjoying drinking. Yeah. Because he didn't drink for a long time. Yeah. And I go, you like it now and he goes, it's the most fun thing. And I was like, yeah, it's pretty fucking fun, man. But I saw a kid in the coffee shop today. I was waiting in line to order. And the kid in front of me turned around. He's like, hey, man. I love your comedy. Whenever it was a nice kid, he goes, he goes, dude.

33:34Are you sober, too, now? All you guys are getting sober. I was like, no, no, no. All you guys, that's funny. They think we act, we move as a group. Yeah, yeah. They're all Republicans now. There's the things I hear people apply to this comedy scene. I'm just like, what the fuck are you guys? It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I read another article the other day about us being an anti -woke comedy scene. Yeah, the thing about UCB coming in. Like, look, why not just do great stuff? Go do great stuff. Don't worry about what we're doing. And we're not anti -woke. There's no anti -woke. There's like a shit ton of left -wing comics at the mothership.

34:18It's like, that's not what we're talking about. Yeah, we're not dwelling on that. We're making fun of things. That article upset me because when I saw the headline, I was excited because I used to do UCB shows in New York. I did them in LA. Yeah, I did them in LA too. And I was like, oh, cool. UCB is coming. Like, it'll be more stuff. That was always fun. For the scene and stuff. The scene, it's always better if there's more in the scene. But that's also, you got to realize like someone framing it in a way that's going to get people to read it. Yeah. And then there's people that genuinely do think that way.

34:48And it's what a lot of that is, I think, is the walled garden issue. And the fact that there's like a walled garden. Right? When there's a walled garden, there's a bunch of people that are doing really well together and they're hanging out together and they have fun. And you're not in that group. You start getting mad at that. And you find reasons why that's bad. Because you want something like that in your life, which we all do. If I see like a whole group of friends, like, paling around and laughing, I always smile because I know what that's like. I like it. But if you never have that in your life and you see a group of people paling around and having a good time together and hugging each other, just laughing and just having a good old time, you feel like left out.

35:26You feel like you feel disrespected almost. Yeah. You know, this episode is brought to you by Zippercruder. Speed and quality aren't always synonymous. I don't go to a fast food joint expecting a five star meal or use instant coffee, thinking it'll taste like it came from a French press. There are exceptions, of course. Like if you're hiring, you can use Zippercruder to find qualified people fast. Try it yourself. Free at zippercruder .com slash Rogan. According to G2, it's one of the most popular hiring sites, probably because of how fast it actually works. I'm talking same day results in some cases with Zippercruder's advanced resume database.

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36:58And you see famous people on TV and whatever. And you got an opinion about everybody that's having too much fun, that's annoying. Oh yeah, yeah. That guy's music sucks. He's a hack. Yeah. And then five years later, you find yourself in a room with the guy at some party and you meet him and talk to him. And you go, what, he's the nicest, what the fuck? I think I like his music now. It just, it's so stupid. But it's just a normal thing that people do. We talk shit. And then the problem now is you talk shit and you're just talking shit. Like, you and I would be talking the same way if we were in midsies bar just hanging out.

37:37We'd be talking shit. Exactly. And if someone records that and writes it down, it seems so much different than just regular talking shit, which is what everybody does. Well, and that's one of the things I wrote down here that I wanted to say. And I don't say it, I swear to you. I don't say it to blow smoke because it's your place and I get to work there a lot and all that stuff. That's all beautiful. I say this very genuinely, man, when I swung in last night, and everybody's at the, you know, hanging after Killtoni and it's usually a fun time. And, and Carrie was like, she's like, hey, babe, you want a shot?

38:14And I go, no, no, not tonight. I got to take it easy tonight. And I go, I'm doing Joe's show tomorrow. And dude, like the staff, everybody, the friends, the count, everybody being like, dude, congrats. The fuck, it's special drop today. You doing Rogan tomorrow, dude, kill it, have fun, dude, we fucking love you. And I step back and I was like, this feels like family to me. This is a beautiful thing. Everybody's so supportive. There's no back biting. There's no shit talking. It's all fucking love. So when I hear people saying negative shit about the Austin scene, I'm like, it's, I've felt it to be a beautiful experience.

38:52Like truly, like a truly heartwarming experience. It's, it's people that aren't in the scene. That's all it is. It's like people that they're looking at it from the outside. And it's not just us that are like this. Like, my thought on all this shit is that my favorite people to hang out with are comedians. And if you make an environment where comedians are really happy and everyone has a lot of gratitude. Well, I gratitude for what they're able to do with their life. And that they have such great friends and they get to do sets and have fun. And it transfers over to all the other people too. Transfer is over to the up and comers.

39:30It transfers over to the staff. Everybody is having a good time. Everybody has a real positive attitude. That's possible to do. Yeah. You don't have start calls. You don't have to, you just, you know, just make a place. It's, you can do it. It can be done. We did it at the comedy store. The comedy store was pretty fucking positive for the most part before we left. And we do it here too. And some people don't want to hang with comics. They're lone wolves. And that's fine too, man. That's not what it's about. What it's about is making an environment where it's easiest possible for someone to thrive.

40:07So you got a bunch of feedback from a bunch of other comedians. You got a lot of up and coming talent that are like really killing it on stage and really trying to be heard and really writing new stuff all the time, performing all the time. It's good for everybody. It's like a big old pressure cooker. It's like a wrestling room at Iowa State. And it's like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like there's a bunch of killers in this fucking room. That's good for everybody. Yeah. It's good for all of us. That's, I look at it the same way I look at sports. I look at it the way I look at martial arts. Like what's the best way to get better?

40:38You got to surround yourself with really good people. Also, make a gym that has everything the fighters need. Everything they need, like the UFC performance center, something like the performance institute, something like that. Have a place where it has everything the fighters need. So do that for comedy. Do you have it set? Completely set up. Financially, the most beneficial for the comedians. It's like treats people well. Everybody gets, it's the whole business is designed to break even. It's all designed to do. It was awesome, particularly this past weekend, because I did Ari shows with him in Fat Man in the big room.

41:17And then I was also doing little boy spots in between. And it was like, what you're talking about the gym, right? It was so fucking cool. It's like you go into Fat Man. Bap, bap, bap, bap, bap. You know what I mean? Then you go into little boy. It's a little calmer, a little more quiet. It's like you're in people's living room. Yeah, you sit down in the stool. You talk a little slower. I'm like, this is so good for growth in both areas. Just like a gym, like you set up a gym. It's a CrossFit gym. Yeah. You know, it's like over there, you do your weights, over here, you do cardio. Yeah. Yeah, it's great, man.

41:49It's fucking great. And the staff is just, the staff is so awesome. Like just the love of the staff is really a beautiful thing. They're very cool people. And a lot of them like Kerry and Adam and Judy, they all came from the store. So everybody was unemployed, man. So I scooped them up when they were all unemployed. Yeah. And let's have fun. Let's put something crazy together. He gets the funniest. He's the best. He makes me laugh so hard. He watched me the other night in Little Boy. And I came off stage. And he's like, he's a good, good shit, man. Good, that's new shit. And I go, I'm super excited about this Russell Brand joke.

42:26And he goes, yeah, yeah. So then the next day he starts texting me. And he goes, I couldn't sleep last night. And I go, why? And he goes, I'm just so excited about your new Russell Brand joke.

42:40He really is how he thinks though. He goes, I can't sleep. But I go, wait, you're joking, right? And he goes, yes, I'm joking. You fucking idiot. It was so funny, dude. We were laughing so hard. He's the best, man. Well, he learned it from Norm, you know? Yeah. I mean, yeah. But he really does love it. Like, he really does love when people have new shit. Like, he really was joking around. I'm sure. But he also looks forward to it a lot. He loves like the development process. And you know, it gives really good advice. Like I've seen him give like really good advice to up and coming comics about like, maybe this is what you need to concentrate on.

43:14This is where you have like a kind of a hole in your game. Like how you're satin it up. Maybe you have too many words. Maybe you're this. Maybe you're the ham. Maybe you're looking down at the ground. You need to look in the audience a little bit. Yeah. You know, I learned, excuse me, you know, you're always learning, right? But I just rewatched the Gary Shanling doc, the HBO one. And he talks at the beginning of that. He talks about when Mitzi Shor said to him, honey, you're not a comic. You're not a comic. You're a writer. And then he was so determined to be a comic. And he was like, and you're seeing his notes from his journals from that time.

43:50Yeah. And he's like, use your face, your expressions matter at these moments and your energy. And the way you look and went out, I was like, oh my god, man. Oh my god. And then you watch his stand up. You go, I can see what he's talking about. You see him go like from this to what he worked at it. And you're like, yeah, it's fucking fascinating. You're not a comic. You're a writer. I can see your saying that. Bro, she said to me, I'd be like, fuck, this is over. Who is the guy that used to run the comic strip in New York? Lewis? Not Lewis. The guy that passed away. He had the mustache. Do you remember what I'm talking about?

44:34You mean the guy got murdered? No, no, no, no. The guy that had the stand. Yes, that's David Kimmel. The comic strip. The comic strip. Who passed away at the comic strip? There was that guy that was kind of legendary in New York that ran the comic strip. He was the booker. And when you auditioned, you had to audition for him. And then he would take you into a room and tell you. Oh, Lucian. Yes, that's right. I remember our audition for him. Desperately trying to get in anywhere in New York. Oh, Lucian was brutal. He brought me in the room. He sat me down. He goes, uh, what can I say? I mean, some of the jokes work, but I don't believe you.

45:11And then he goes, look at the way you dress. You clearly have no pride in your appearance. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he was brutal. I don't remember what he said to me, but it was also not favorable. He would like occasionally give me spots. But I think he thought I was too dirty. Oh, boy. But I was 21. I didn't have anything to say. Nothing to say. How long were you in New York? You were out of New York way before I came to New York. But how long were you either? I left New York when I was 25. Okay. Almost 26, I guess. No, I had to be 26. No, I was 26. And then I came to California initially for this Fox show that I did with Jim Brewer.

45:53Jim Brewer was the mascot for the other team. It was a baseball team called, it was called Hardball. Was it come? Yeah. Terrible show. Terrible show. So I moved out here for that. And then that card canceled. You know what's funny, dude? I was saying this. It's all the boys out in the outside area here. I got to tell Joe this because I keep forgetting to tell him. And because I always forget, oh, he was on that show. Oh, I, you know, news radio during COVID saved my fucking life. I swear to you. Did you binge it? I was so, I was living in an apartment that only had windows in the bedroom. So I had no light in my apartment.

46:37Oh, no. It was a tenement building. The hallway, I was telling the guys outside. I was like, the whole. You trapped in a place with no light at all. Yeah. The hallway in this building was the hallway looked like the alley behind the Wuhan lab. I was like, I'm going to get COVID from the fucking railing. It was like, it was so gross. Everybody was so freaked out. Nobody knew what was going on in the beginning. And I was like, dude, I'm trapped. I'm alone. Like, this is the worst thing ever. And my buddy Pat Walsh, who I do, we'll see you on Hell Podcast with, he said, listen, man, have you seen news radio?

47:14And I said, no, I've never seen it. I missed it when it was on. And he goes, look, Amazon's got the whole series right now. For 20 bucks, just buy it and watch it. And I bought it and I watched it and you fucking Dave Foley, the best Phil Hartman. Steve Rude, Andy Dick. Oh my god. Vicki Lewis. It's just. Candy Alexander Moratini. Yeah, it's a great cast. It just took me because it was so fun. It was so silly. It was classic. It reminded me of a better time because it was a little bit older. Because it's from the 90s. Yeah, almost almost innocent. Oh my god. That style of comedy. Yeah. So silly.

47:56It's like, it's, it's a fun thing to do. And to be able to do it that way, like with those people, they're all so fucking good. You know, and I didn't know. I had fucking zero acting experience. I did a couple of episodes of that hard ball show. It was terrible, like I said. I wasn't good on it either. I'm not a good actor. No, you're not. No, no, no, no, no. I wasn't saying, no, you're not a good actor. I'm saying, no, you're wrong. I want to compliment you. Sitcom multi -cam acting. Multi -cam is very different from single -cam. Multi -cam, in my opinion, is the hardest form of acting. No, you're doing it in front of a crowd.

48:34It's like stand up. It's not that hard. You know when you've got a good one, when you got a good punch line, and you can look Andy Dick in the face and say, because it says it on the label, like whatever it is. And you know it's going to get a big laugh. It's just like doing stand up. Like comics thrive in those multi -cam sitcoms. That's why they kept giving them to like, Rosanne, Seinfeld, Brett Butler. They wanted every Tim Allen, everybody that could do stand up, could do that kind of in front of an audience acting. See, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit. I think I agree with you the idea that if the joke's there, you can land it.

49:12But think about it like this with stand up, right? You know Woody Allen once said, I used to think it was as easy as just writing a good joke, and if I said it, it was fine. He goes, then I realized that wasn't the case. I had to write good jokes that were of my personality. And that's why I'm so enamored by guys that are good at multi -cam sitcom acting, because they're writing something for a character you're playing. And if it's knowing how to land the joke, but also making it believable, I'm in all of Kevin James. Oh, he's the man. I'm in all of him. You watch King of Queens, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, he delivered that wine that nine out of 10 other people, it would be in no way organic or believable.

49:55That choice he just made. And he does it in a way where you believe that's actually who this person is, and it gets a laugh? Like, yeah, that was one of the last of the great sitcoms. Yeah. Right? Because like, when did the sitcom officially die? The only one who has a sitcom right now that I know is Miss Pat, and hers is on the BET app. Yeah. But who else? Who else do you know that has a sitcom? No, but my buddy Pat, I just mentioned works on that show, actually. Well Shane has a sitcom, but Shane Tires is not really a sitcom. It's a single -cam comedy show. Yeah, yeah. It's not a situation comedy, right?

50:34Is it? Well, it's a sitcom technically? Yes, but it's a single -cam. Like, the multi -cam is the traditional whatever. But I think it died. I was watching, I also watched this later during COVID, Rules of Engagement, which was David Spades' last sitcom. It was him in Patrick Warburton. I don't know if you remember that show. Patrick Warburton was on News Radio a bit too. He was. He was.

51:07But that show came out and like, I think it ended in like 2017 -ish. That was probably the last one. Yeah, 2013. So you watch it and they're getting jokes in. We're like, you can tell two years later they wouldn't have allowed any of these jokes. You know what? I show that I used to shit on. Until I watched it. It was a really good show. And I feel bad that I used to shit on it. Big Bang Theory. Yeah, Big Bang Theory is funny. It's funny, man. It's good show. Yeah. That kind of a thing. Like if you, if that's what you want, you want like a fun sitcom. That's a fun sitcom, man. And I, I always thought it was crap.

51:43Yeah. I'd always heard it was crap. Everybody. And I had made this judgment on it based on other people's opinions of it. And we were talking earlier about what people hate on something. Yeah. Big Bang Theory, one of the most hated on sitcoms. Anyone went forever. Went forever. Was the number one show in the world. I worked with Johnny Gilecki. He was the fucking man. The coolest dude ever. Which one's he? He's the kid that was on Roseanne. The guy with the glasses. Oh, okay. He was kind of like the main dude outside of Sheldon. Do you know I'm talking about him? Oh, right, right, right. Yes, yes, yes.

52:14The man. I got drunk with him and fell down the stairs. It's past. And he was like, luckily you didn't need insurance. No. That would have been another story. And then they fucked me over. Yeah. Bro, speaking about getting fucked over. One here of a story that I've read today. Jamie, find out if this is true, but I'm pretty sure it is. There was a guy who decided that he was going to leave Texas because of the woke direction that America is going in. And so he decides to go to Russia. Because there's some guy, some American setup like an ex -pat community in Russia. Okay. And this guy goes in there and then they conscript him for the army and send him to the front line.

52:56Father who moved from, family from Russia to escape woke America is sent to the front line. Jesus Christ.

53:06Bro, that's a crazy story. That's insane. With his family, with his wife and his daughters. He just moves there. Doesn't know anything about the culture. And all of a sudden, you're in the army. That's it. Yeah, you're in the army. We need you. And by the way, bro, fed up with woke America. I would think Texas is a place where... Like, Texas is too woke for you. You need to go spend a couple months in Silver Lake. You think Texas is too woke? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Go hang out in the East Village for a couple weeks. Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. I lived in Silver Lake. It is... Insofarable. It's insufferable.

53:46It's insufferable. Everybody needs antidepressants. No one has any vitamin D. They're all fucking... They're all rotting out from the inside. They're all overwhelmed with anxiety. Trying to control everyone's speech and behavior. And like every fucking flag that you can possibly weigh for what you support. What are we on this week? What are we doing this week? Like, everyone's fucking nuts. I think a city that was always one of my big gripes with life in LA or more specifically Hollywood. I think a city where you have to drive to get to the bar. You got a problem. Because nobody's able to just go out the front door, go down the street and just have some fun.

54:28Right. Everything is... It's got to be planned. It's got to be this. Part of the park. Yeah, so nobody cuts loose. Also, you're always in your car. So you're always isolated from other people. Yes. Until you integrate. And then you back to my isolation. New York, you have to integrate. Like, you just... You get on the subway, you walk down the street. Everybody's there with everybody. Yep. Dude. There's something to be said for that. There is. I always... When I lived in LA, I said the reason I don't like LA. I always said the ultimate goal of people in LA is isolation. The ultimate goal of people in New York is integration.

54:58In LA, the big dream is what? Let me get the... Manchin. Yeah, the house way up in these hills. And these... Big old gate dogs fucking dudes on... Yeah. Sniper posts. Yeah, yeah. Guys being like, I got an eye scanner on my house. Terits, machine guns. Yeah. Yeah, it's... And the only people... And then they have these parties in LA where they hire a staff to create the environment of a bar in their home. So now they're creating... There's like catering waiters walking around and shit. You know, like, guys, I'm just trying to play beer pong and like, get fucked up. What is this way? It's so weird.

55:33But New York, you could be top floor Trump Tower. Guess what? You walk out the front door. You're going to the same shit newsstand that I'm going to. You're getting your coffee from the same fucking place. That's another thing New York still has. Newstands. Yes. People still buy the newspaper. Isn't that what? The actual newspaper. I wonder what percentage of newspapers get sold in New York City? That's a great question. Because nobody's buying newspapers anymore. No. Like, is it possible to find out when New York Times give that information out? Like, what percentage of the New York Times when it's consumed in paper form is purchased in New York City?

56:09It's probably the most out of anywhere, right? Because there's so many old school New Yorkers that are like, this is how you read the news. That's part of their life. Oh, yeah. Getting the times every morning goes home. I don't know where a problem. It just fills people home. They don't know they're getting fucked. They don't know the internet. They haven't made their way through Reddit yet. The Billy Connelly. They haven't seen the Fauci memes. Billy Connelly had this joke. And after he got sober, where he was talking about living in New York, and he goes, every morning my routine is I walk to the Newstand, I buy a cup of coffee in the morning edition of the New York Times.

56:45My life is a ball of fire.

56:52And then the funniest part of the joke is he said, there was the same homeless guy every day that he would give money to. And he said, one day the homeless guy goes, you know, you don't have to give me money every day. And he goes, I know you, I don't. You're a little fucking cunt. Jesus. It's better with a Scottish accent, right? It is. Yeah, it is. There's something to be said for living, jammed up with people. But I think ultimately the problem is, it's just over stimulation. I don't think it's good for peace of mind. I think it's good for energy. So one of the things that my friends would love it there, they all talk about like my friend Jeff, who's been there forever.

57:29He's like, I love the energy of the city. I'm like, really? Energy. New York's one of those places, man, when I loved it. God, I loved it. And I still have a lot of love for the city. It wasn't for me to live in anymore. But I always said like New York is one of those cities. Whenever you get there, what doesn't matter what year it is. When you get there, that begins your impression of the best version of New York. And eventually, might take five years, might take two decades, might take 30 years, whatever. Eventually, you're going to say this isn't what it used to be anymore. But there's a crop of people coming in right at that time that are saying, this is the best place ever.

58:1030 years from now, they're going to say they're tired of it or whatever. But listen buddy, 30 years from now, we're all going to be serving robots. Okay. So all this good old day stuff, we are the last people that are going to talk about the good old days. Yeah. This is the last ones. Yeah. And I agree with you. We'll be serving robots. Yeah. Not robots are going to be, yeah. I remember people used to talk about the good old days of Times Square. And I was always like, you're crazy. Like you want Times Square to be filled with criminals and peep shows and fucking drug dealers and it was super sketchy.

58:42Right. Super sketchy. And then I saw it the way it is now where it's a giant apple piece and I was like, oh, they were right.

58:52It's all, you know, it's like, it's one of those things. Like you see where it's going. You see where it's going. You like, you guys don't understand. This is going, this is going into terrible direction. You do this, these are just the first steps of something going into terrible direction. Yeah. Like at first you think it's good because there's no more peep shows. There's no more, you know, street hustlers and scary people trying to rob people. But now you have the corporatization of one of the literally the wildest places in New York City was Times Square. It was a wild -ass crazy place. Yeah.

59:25What you want, what you want to me, the analogy is you want the perfect dive bar. That's what we all want. Feels comfortable. Right. Little gritty. Yeah. But I feel okay. Once in a while you'll go, let's find a dive bar and you walk in and there's too many boxes in the corner and nothing works. And you're like, something's not right here. There was a one we used to go to at LA. There was a motel upstairs and the bar downstairs only served two things. Modelo and Corona. And we were like, there is some sort of pimping operation or something happening in here. It's too much. There's a lot of places like that that you know are losing money.

1:00:01You're like, oh, is a Chinese triad on this? Like who owns this fucking business? Like how's this business still open? Yeah. But you want perfect dive bar vibes. Yeah. You know, when it's two New York Times Square now is like, it's like going to a bar and Epcot center. You're like, oh, God, this has no pulse. I didn't want it this clean. Not this clean. When I was a kid, I used to play pool in New York at Chelsea Billiards. It's a 24 hour pool hall that was known throughout the world as a place where like the best pool players in New York City would go and gamble. So I'd go there two, three o 'clock in the morning, any given night and you would find some of the best players in the world matching up playing pool for money.

1:00:43Wow. Oh, it was amazing. And it was just 24 seven. It was open all the time. So there's like guys who were street hustlers, who were pool hustlers, who would sleep under the tables. There was a bunch of people there that were like really talented pool players, but they're basically homeless. And they would just run around and my friend that I was telling you about the smoke crack, that's why I knew him. He was basically a homeless crackhead who was a genius pool player. Did you ever get to play against any of the like big guys? Yeah, I got my ask act. I played it a bunch of turn. I wasn't nearly good enough back then to play against those guys.

1:01:15I was just learning pool, but I was fascinated by it. But it was just the place, the kind of thing that you'd have in New York City, there's all these different places we could go. We could go to like 10, 15 places that were pool halls in New York City. There were 24 hours. And you would go there and this one was a complete Chinese own place. You would go there and like some of them you would go to, not Chelsea, but some of them you would go to. There were off the beaten path. You would go there. Everyone spoke Chinese. They had Chinese in the wall. They did speak a little bit of English. You could pay them for table time you'd go and play and you watched these dudes gamble in there too.

1:01:48It's one of my, that version of New York, I think is probably, I would think, extinct. It's not worth enough money. Right. The thing is like if you could put some Louis Vuitton store in the place where that used to be, that's going to make a lot more money. Of course. CD 24 hour pool hall that charges 20 bucks an hour for table time. That's ridiculous. You're getting rich. Yeah. Hey, again, rich off $20 an hour table time. The Louis Vuitton store doesn't have crackheads sleeping under this purses. But it was so fun, man. It was like to be a young man and to be around all those people was like a very, it was a very interesting experience because although I knew it wasn't healthy for them and I knew it wasn't a smart way to live your life, the fact that they were like dedicated to never doing anything but what they were doing and they were smart people, man.

1:02:37Yeah, that's, that's, it's, it's fucking weird. Commitment is admirable, but that turns into a, it gets into the zone where you're like, this is, this is dark. It was totally dark. Yeah, yeah. But they just didn't fit. Yeah. They didn't fit. Okay, like just like you barely fit in that Senate office, they didn't fit at all. They just couldn't do it for, they have it with ADHD, stepmom beating with a belt, whatever the fuck it was, it's, they're not going to fit. Yeah. They're not going to fit in whatever corporate cookie cutter life. Right. But they had a place in pool halls where they, they could hang out with other misfits.

1:03:14That was like a big part of the charm of the place. Yeah. It was a magnet for misfits. Yeah. And now they're all door dash deliver, you guys probably. They're probably dead. Yeah. A lot of them are dead. A lot of dudes that I used to play with are dead. One of the things that I cherish most about my New York experience was when I first got there. It's how I became friends with the tell. Dave liked to go out back then, you know, and, and insomnia, earned insomnia was on the air. That show he hosted where he would, you know, go out into the cities and get obliterated. Yeah. So Dave, I like the drink and Dave was like, Joe, man, you're a nice kid.

1:03:51Come out with me. And he would take me to these after he knew every fucking after hours course. Of course. He had a fucking blast. And a tell was classic. He was like, Batman, you'd be doing shots with him for three hours and you'd turn around and he was gone.

1:04:10Did you want to say goodbye? Yeah. Fuck this. I'm just leaving. Yeah. And you're literally like, I'm on Avenue day, I think where the fuck am I? And do you have GPS back then either? No GPS, no Uber. No Uber. No Uber. And broke comic couldn't afford cabs. So trying to throw it out of subway back to Queens where I live. Oh my God. Yeah. Three in the morning. Oh my God. Three, sometimes five, six. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's the other thing. Bars in New York City opened to 4 a .m. Yeah. That's getting lesser and lesser to them, man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. When we opened, but it's legal still. When we opened, uh, Joe, is legal still?

1:04:44Yes, it is, but there's when we opened Joey Rose's, we got a liquor license because there's a bar component. And, um, that we, you know, when we went in for the liquor, I learned so much about a liquor license when we did that. You probably did too when you opened mothership. There's, there's like all these rules like, okay, you're allowed to surf till midnight on these nights, but not till two. And we'll let you go to two on these nights, but not till four. And if you want to go to four, it has to be in this type of location where this type of activity will never happen, meaning like a DJ that can offend neighbors because of the base or, or it's got to be situated in a way where people will not be congregating outside because the venue is large enough to hold them.

1:05:28There's all this shit, but like that 4 a .m. shit is going away. I don't think, I don't think they wanted in New York anymore because of, you know, people get fucked up and they're puking outside and then the residents are getting pissed off. What do you think is going to happen if this, uh, how do you say his name? Mandani guy. I don't know how to say his name, but I don't know. So, I say it again. So, Ron, almost like the movie, I think I say the whole name mom, Donnie. I'm going to use that as my ringtone from now on. Mom Donnie. You saying that mom Donnie. I admittedly know very little about this guy.

1:06:09All I really know is is half the people seem excited and half the people seem like it's the worst thing ever. So, part for the course, I guess, in politics. Well, young people are very excited. Yeah. Young people think they're going to give communism a try. Yeah, let's see what happens. I know he wants to jack up a lot of taxes for businesses. I don't understand business enough to comment on that. I don't know whether that would be beneficial overall for the net good of everybody or not, but I'm always skeptical when they want more money. Does he want to jack up taxes on all businesses or just certain level businesses?

1:06:44I don't know. Yeah, I think he wants to change the tax code in New York to be the same for businesses as it is for New Jersey, which is a little higher. Believe it or not, New Jersey is a little higher than New York. That city is making it, in my opinion, absolutely impossible for mom and pop businesses to continue to function. And it's starting to happen more and more everywhere. That's a shame because that's one of the coolest things about New York City is that you can go with these little mom and pop shops. We went to a sandwich shop. I wish I could remember the name of it near where Taylor Swift's house is.

1:07:21Taylor Swift used to own a house there. This is how we know that. There was a bunch of gals. We parked over in the corner, we parked on this street to eat our sandwiches and we're like, what the fuck is going on at that house? And there's all these girls who pause in front of the house and they would get pictures taken. They would have like their perfect angle and look cute in front of Taylor Swift's house. So these fucking poor people that used to, you know, they bought this house, thinking this is dope house, they might not have even known or they thought it would be cool. It used to be Taylor Swift, but everyone's going to know it's not anymore.

1:07:51So no big deal. No, they take pictures from your house every day. That's so funny. The juxtaposition of those images, a bunch of hot chicks posing perfectly and then a bunch of dudes in a hot car eating hogas. From like the most classic old school Italian deli that we found in wherever that area is. What do you know, you do remember the part of town at all? I don't. I could find it if I wanted to go through my phone. I could find it because I sent it to my friend Tommy when we were going down there. But I feel like I have to know the place you're talking about. If it's probably a place I've been, I feel like I've been to every sandwich place in New York City.

1:08:28Anyway, it was good. Yeah, I'm sure it was really good. I'm sure. And it's a mom pop spot that's been there since like 19, fucking 60 or some shit. Yep. You know, been there forever. I mean, look at Kansas now, dude. Now part of this is the best. The part of this is tourism. Their sandwiches are 29 fucking. Shut up. Just pay them. They've been around since the 1800s. Stop being a bit. It's worth it. It's worth 50 bucks. The greatest fucking sandwiches on the known planet. I was like, when you go there at two o 'clock in the morning and you get a fucking pastrami rubin from cats is deli at two o 'clock in the morning with the steak fries.

1:09:06Oh my god. It's a nice life saver late night. Oh my god. I was a big Carnegie deli guy. He's great. They're gone. Yeah, they went under. They're gone. You know, Jerry's famous deli in LA was amazing. I think they're all gone. I think they closed a bunch of them. They closed the one near where I used to live in Woodland Hills. And then they closed the one in studio city, I believe, which was the big one. Wait, is Jerry's? What's the one that just got shut down for health code stuff? The one that had the godmother, the Italian sandwich that everybody loved and everybody goes down near the beach, I think.

1:09:39What, I don't know that story. I think you're in the restaurant business, son. You know, you know, restaurant rumors and gossip. And you're like, you know the one they, the code violation. Like what? What, what fucking Google news feed are you on? You're on a different Google news feed. You know, restaurants per Taylor Swift. That's your barometer. You're like, it's this close to Taylor Swift house. That's all I know. I just imagine being those poor people. What is it? God's bodies. BC deli. Something just happened where they, they shut down for a while. That's an L .A. Yeah. And they got in trouble for something?

1:10:16I don't know if they got in trouble. I want to make sure I'm not speaking out of school here. Yeah, health department. Shut down for what? I think they were pretty fit up. It says the word vermin. That's never good. Oh, that's not good. They got hit with rats. God, that's it. See, everybody hates the coyotes in L .A. But if you don't have coyotes, you have rats. You have a lot more rats than you do have. Yeah. You need them to keep the, you guys fucked up. It's very closure. We're going to reopen. Okay. Are they going to kill all the rats? I hope they fix it. I'll tell you, that's the thing I never expected in New York.

1:10:48Rats? Yeah, it's like you open a food place in New York. You open anything in New York. Rats is on your checklist. Yeah. Of what you have to be ready to deal with. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. And the city just acts like, well, that's the city. That's your problem. It's like, what did you fix the rats thing a little bit? They cannot. No. They cannot. Those rats got bold, they evolved or in COVID, dude. Yeah. They walk right up to you now in New York. They didn't used to do that. Rats used to scurry if they saw anybody. They walk up to you now. Like it's wild. They evolved. I heard a thing. They probably had to get more aggressive to survive because all the food got caught off because there was no restaurants open.

1:11:27Well, also, too, the places that were shut down so many shut their doors, but it's left their stock and abandoned ship. So the rats got in there and it was fucking, you know, it was Charlotte's web, the fucking the rat at the picnic, whatever that fucking temple to. They just had a field day. But somebody told me, a construction guy told me once he goes, dude, rats are some of the smartest fucking creatures on earth. He goes scaffolding when they're scaffolding on a building, when they're doing work on a building, it opens everything up and rats tend to come. He said, sometimes what they'll do is they'll hang dead rats from the scaffolding and other rats will see the dead rats and go, don't fuck with that place.

1:12:06Isn't that fucking crazy? That's crazy. Isn't that crazy? If they see a dead rat, they run. No, I would. I've done no research to see if it's true. If I go into an neighborhood on horseback, I see a dude fucking hanging by the front door. I'm like, oh, this is not a good spot to stop. Let's keep moving. We had to put in the basement when we were sealing off some potential entry points because you really got to seal your basement off. That's a key thing in New York. When is it possible to seal it off from rats? How about this, dude? Ready for this? Yeah. We had to seal off some potential entry points that the previous tenant had left.

1:12:44The exterminator guy we brought in, he goes, here's how you have to do this. You have to mix glass with the concrete. So if a rat does try to chew through it, it will get hurt from the glass and it will not try to do it again. If you just have concrete, they will eat through the fucking concrete. Does it create a hole? It's insane. And they can get through like a nickel sized hole. Oh, it's insane. Yeah, their bones are flexible. Yeah, yeah, it's insane. They're fascinating creatures and also disgusting. Do you ever watch the Netflix series on them? The documentary, rats? The thing the guy that died did supersize me, right?

1:13:20Is that what his name is? It is his? Yeah, yeah. He died, right? Yeah. I didn't know that that was his, but it's really good. It talks about all the different diseases they carry. And then all over the country, like there's rats everywhere. And one of the things that they cover is the amount of rats that are in New York City, where it's like, it's all an assumption. They don't know, they never met weight them, but they think the biomass of rats is equal to the biomass of people. I don't doubt it. Do you don't have crazy that it's insane? Do you know crazy? If that's true, that is so nuts. That's so many rats, like you'll never get them out of there.

1:14:01It's fucking insane. It looks, there's shots in that movie where they're so on top of each other. It looks like world, remember when World War Z came out and like they did the thing in that movie where the zombies literally snowballed? Yeah. It looks like that except with rats. Yeah, with rats. And where are they getting enough food to sustain these insane numbers? Oh, they eat concrete apparently. You fuck. Have you ever seen a rat set off a rat trap with a stick? No. This is what I'm talking about. No, here's the thing. There's a camera set up in front of this rat trap. So you don't know if they taught the rat to do it.

1:14:39This is the fact that you could teach a rat had a set off a rat trap so that it could eat the food that's on the trap. Watch how he does it because he does it with a stick, dude. Jesus Christ. Yeah, watch this. So here's the, check this out. So the rat comes in. He's like, oh, I know what this shit is. This is designed to fucking kill me. Oh, I say springs. Okay, cool, cool. Go over here, trip that motherfucker. So he comes back with a stick, dude. I mean, how crazy is that? Now watch, watch when the rat trap goes off. He doesn't even flinch. He doesn't even flinch. Oh, it's probably. Because he's probably done this a hundred times.

1:15:16When the trap flips, if this is a real video, and I don't know that it's a real video, the only thing that makes me think it's a real video and that's going to sound crazy is it is from like two years ago. Yeah. Five years ago, you used to be able to tell if something was fake. Yeah. That's how nuts the world's got. I know, dude. I know. I'm watching a channel on YouTube. It's called Skywalker Stories. And it's a guy that with AI creates these little Star Wars vignettes of things, all the fans always wanted to see, but we never got to see. Oh, wow. They're fucking awesome. They're awesome. But dude, he'll make it with like, it'll be Luke, but like, return of the Jedi Luke.

1:15:58Like Mark Hamill. Young Mark Hamill. Yeah. Look at this, dude. Whoa. This is all AI. Look at this. Bro. The voice is even. Oh, my God, dude. Oh, this is incredible. It's nuts. This is AI. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is where fuck, dude. We're done. This is so good. And it's sound. He sounds exactly like Mark Hamill. He looks it's crazy, dude. It looks better than like the video that you would get back then. Yes. Yes. It's so much clearer. Keep it going, dude. Are we going to get in trouble for this? We're just promoting them. Star Wars, Luke Skywalker encounters, Darth Bane. Look at this. There's a front core band.

1:16:45Catch, check his hand. Watch his hand. Five fingers there. Right. Six fingers there. Five fingers there. Six fingers there. Six fingers. Yeah. Pause it. Five, six. Where's the six? That looks like five. One, two. It just switched. Oh. One, did he have six? One, two, three, four. It blends. See that index finger? Oh, no. Jamie, you're like a wizard. How are you catching this shit, Darth? How are you catching that? This is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. I did this a little week through. I would have got a better voice actor for that. Well, it's kids. It's kids working in a garage.

1:17:25Probably you know who had the fucking creepiest. I watched it again on the flight yesterday. The newest Nosferado. Yeah, Robert or the Eggers. Yeah, the dude who played Pennywise. Yeah, Bill Scarsgard. He's fucking amazing in this movie. He's a great actor. It's the best vampire movie of all time. He's a great actor. He's a great actor. That movie is creepy. I liked it. I thought it was beautifully shot. My favorite will always be Coppola Francis Ford. Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. That was a great one. The one with Hopkins and Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman was incredible. Still old men. Still old men.

1:18:06When Owen Rider. Yeah, yeah. That was classic. Oldman still scares me in that movie. Oh, he was amazing. But that was, it's interesting because that broke ground, right? Because that was the first like mind bending of the vampire movies. Like he was a mind bender. Like he would transform states in front of you. He was there. He was gone. He was an old man. All of a sudden, it was like a mind bending. Yeah, almost like psychedelic vampire. Can I tell you the two things that took me out of Niles, Farathu? Yeah, please do. I don't want to ruin it for you. Is Dick? No. He stood up with the dick. No, that was fine.

1:18:40I said the cops. He got a dick. Not the pros. The, the, the, no. I didn't like that he had a mustache. Oh, I love that. That bothered me that Dracula is trimming his mustache every morning. I love it. I loved it. And this is not Robert Eggers fault. This is the original story. But it finally dawned on me in every Dracula story. It's always based on him trying to buy real estate to go to London. And I'm like, why does he need a house? I don't understand these Dracula. Because he's got to have a place to put his coffin at night, Todd. I guess so. 100%. He could just go run the fucking city. No, no, no, no, no, no.

1:19:15There's another one that's really good. All right. Underrated. Yeah. Last voyage of the Demeter. I saw that. I liked it. I liked it. Yeah. Underrated. A little obvious with the CGI, right? Yes. A little like that. Doesn't look real. Like there weren't quite where they're at now. Yeah. Which is pretty crazy. Yeah. Because I was just a few years ago. So the interesting movie trivia. The last voyage was originally supposed to be an actual prequel to the Coppola movie. Ah. It was actually supposed to, because remember in the Coppola movie, there's the, yeah, yeah. They show the sequence where there's the blood hitting the sales and all that stuff.

1:19:50That was actually supposed to be a legit connected prequel. Which got damn, could you imagine if that movie was fucking Gary Oldman? Oh my God. Dracula. Gary Oldman and Coppola director. Oh my God. That would be insane. So you know, Gary Oldman was such a good Dracula. Oh my God. Whoo. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when he accidentally, um, counterries accidentally gets a cut. And he licks the fucking blade. Yeah. Yeah. This is the creepiest fucking. And it's got that's testament to Oldman. He's like, he's not, he doesn't just like, he's like trembling while he, like, yeah, it's like, it's almost like sexual, you know, it's like, I'm fine with crack.

1:20:35Yes. That's what it was. Yeah. Like pull it up. Pull it up, you know. Can we pull up the video of Dracula talking about why blood is so good? When he accidentally cuts piano reels, he's like shaving him or something, right? Yeah, Keanu shaving. Yeah, he comes behind him and starts shaving. He's shaving Keanu, which is even creepier. You got Dracula and a straight edge razor. Oh my God. That's what it was, right? Yeah. Look at that castle. 30th May, Castle Dracula. 30th May. I had strange things which I did not confess to my own soul. The count, the way he looked at me in his picture fills me with dread.

1:21:14As if I have a part to play in a story that is not... Yeah, this is not what I want to hear. Scooch up a little bit. I've got to just say, here we go. It is my dangerous thing you see.

1:21:27Yeah, great. A foul ball of men's vanity perhaps your suit. Glue with the ear.

1:21:48Bro. I did a quick... Hunter Biden and Crack right there. Oh my God. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Okay, that's good. That's good. Yeah. Scar's guard is better. The scar's guard knows for a lot of it. It's scarier, it's creepier, it's more supernatural, it's different. The problem was the makeup back then look goofy. Oldman when he turns into the bat. Oh, it's wild, dude. When he looks at the bat monster. See if you can get to... Is he in there? Trailer, I don't think he is. Now, they like showing maybe like in shadow. I don't think they really show him. Have it knows Faratu pops out of the coffin.

1:22:30That's what he looked like. You can see that image. That's what he's dying at the end. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Get to that picture in the middle where you see the bluish one. Yeah, like that one. That's what he looked like. Bro, it was way creepier. It's a great look. It was way creepier. I don't want the mustache. The mustache makes it, it makes it, it was amazing. And it was creepy in that movie. Like he tricked him into signing over his wife in a contract because he did it in my native tongue. Yeah. It's like the way he's talking. Here it is. Here, give me some volume.

1:23:07Oh, it doesn't pop up into you. He didn't pop up. I think it's too new still to be on you. You pop up, you get to see his dick. They're also fully naked vampire. It was a terrifying vampire. That was the best vampire movie I think ever. And I will say too, that's the first, and I've seen a lot of vampire movies. Me too. That's the first one I've ever seen where he sleeps naked. You're like, well, of course he sleeps naked. They always haven't sleeping in his cape and everything. You got a hog like Dracula does. Yeah. You want to let that mother fuck her hair out. Yeah. He had a hog on him. Do you like horror movies a lot?

1:23:50Love them. I love horror movies. I love a good one. A really good one. It just, I'm really looking forward to the new Frankenstein. I'm excited about that. That's going to be great. I'm excited about that. And Edgar's next movie, Kelly Murphy as Dr. Frankenstein, is going to be fucking insane. I'm excited about Frankenstein. And his next movie is, it's called We're Wolf. And it's a We're Wolf movie. Yes. Yeah, Edgar's. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what we need. We need a real good We're Wolf movie. We haven't had one since the American We're Wolf and London. Yeah, those are tough to come by, man.

1:24:27Wolf man was okay. The Benicio de Toro one. I like that one. It would, you know what the cool thing was when he changed, in front of all those doctors, they got him strapped in, this man is an insane person. He believes he's going to become a wolf. Yeah. Yeah, they're all laughing at him. And then the Toro screams, I will kill all of you. Yeah, and then just pop it. That was also Rick Baker, same guy who did special effects for American We're Wolf and London. He did it for that too. And Thriller. And Star Wars. And Thriller. Yeah, and Thriller. He's, I like the Wolf man. I like the Howling. We're grown men going, I like the Wolf man.

1:25:06He's kind of my favorite. The Howling was good. Grown man. Talking about their favorite, where Wolf movies? I didn't see that new Wolf man. Some people told me it was good. Some people told me it sucked. It sucked, sucked. It sucked, dick. Damn. It sucked. We did, I have a horror movie podcast and we reviewed it. Do you really, you have a horror movie podcast? No shit. No shit. It's called We'll See You In Hell. Yeah. Great name. Thank you, man. But yeah, me and my buddy Pat that I was talking about do it together. And we've been doing it for a long time. But we, I have a massive horror movie collection.

1:25:41All right, let me ask you this. Yeah. What your opinion is, what do you think is the scariest movie of all time? I will tell you, for me, it remains to be the exorcist. And I appreciate how scary I find it that I will infrequently watch it because I never want that to wear off. Because I've seen so many horror movies at this point. It's very hard to find something where I'm actually freaked. And the exorcist probably a lot to do with Catholic upbringing and a lot of the, and then that was a movie when I was growing up where people would say, you know, the devil could actually reach you if you watch that movie.

1:26:14You know, it had so much great lore around it. All of that just sits with me subconsciously when I watch it. I, I think it is the scariest movie I've ever seen. And follows, by the way, in my opinion, what is a necessary component to make a great horror movie? It has to be inescapable. So when other words, what I'm saying is like the horror must be inescapable. Nightmare and Elm Street. You fall asleep, Freddy comes. You're going to have to fall asleep. Friday the 13th, you're a bunch of kids, you're stuck at the camp, there's no cell phones, nobody's got a car. You're stuck. Texas chainsaw massacre.

1:26:57Oh, guess what? All the people you're running from run the fucking town around you. The exorcist, it's your daughter. She's upstairs in your home. You cannot leave. Once you set the parameters that you cannot leave the horror, then all bets are off. But there's too many horror movies where you're like, well, just fucking drive leave.

1:27:23You should be a consultant. Get a look at the script and go, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, you can just leave. Why isn't he just leave? Why is he so invested in staying in his town? Why don't he grow up here? He wants to make it right. Shut the fuck up. That's what I mean. He's demons in that town. He would get his fucking car and he would drive to another state. Yeah, yeah. He would tell the police or something. Yeah, yeah. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, and Amityville is a classic horror movie, but the whole, Eddie Murphy had the joke about in the 80s. He's like, just get the fuck out of the house.

1:27:51Like just leave the fucking house. The, the Amityville one, there's a bunch of them that are weird because they're based on, like the conjuring. It's based at least a little bit on real stories. Yeah. And everybody wants to dismiss haunted houses. Me too. I do too. I think people are cookie. They make things up. They definitely do. But also, there's too many stories about places being haunted. Just because you have an experience, it doesn't mean it's not true. Yeah. Imagine if by, for whatever reason, maybe some horrible thing happens in this house and it opens up a portal to another place. Yeah.

1:28:26And then spirits from that other place can travel through to that spot because you've done such, someone's done such a terrible thing in that house. Like some axiomerter in that house. And then for whatever, the amount of pain and suffering that took place in that spot opened up a portal to another place. Yeah. And things come through there. I look, I want it to be true. Do you ever see a van horizon? Yeah. I love a van horizon. I love a van horizon. Opening up portals. Yes. I fucking love that movie. And it's another one that people dismiss. And I'm like, no, it's good. Again, you're trapped.

1:29:00Yeah, you're trapped. They go through that goofy wormhole in the spaceship. They're stuck. You can't get away from it. It's hell razor. It's hell razor in space. Everyone's possessed. Yes. It's good. It's also, it opens up like, if hell was a real place. Like, you could do so much when you're doing space stuff. Like you're fucking creating wormholes. Like, okay, let's imagine hell's a real place. Yeah. And let's imagine you open up a doorway to it accidentally and bring something onto your spaceship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's, when you do something with space with aliens, I remember reading that when I was young, when I wanted to be a comic book illustrator.

1:29:39And one of the things that I was reading in this book of how it illustrates things. Like the aliens are the ultimate thing that you can draw because no one can tell you what it looks like. It could just be anything. Yeah. You can make it up. And that's why I get so mad that every alien movie that comes out, it's like, I saw one recent, I can't remember the name of it. We watched it for the show. I don't remember. But I remember on the show going, guys, we're doing the big head with the big black eyes again. You can draw, do anything. Yeah. Yeah, you can do anything. Anything. If I hear one more alien in a movie with the fucking predator, rattle the clrrr.

1:30:19Oh, right. I'm like enough, guys, do something new. Like it, it, it, it, it, it, sky's the limit. The thing is alien number one. Oh, yeah. Ridley Scots was so good. It's great. It was so good that no one even talks about that it's a female lead. No one even talks about it. It's not just a female lead. She's the, she's the fucking hero of the whole movie. It's fucking awesome. And kills it. Yeah. But she's so good and the movie so good that no one even brings that up. It's not even a second thought. Yeah, it's awesome. It's just like that movie scared the fuck out of me. And that movie came out in 1979.

1:31:00Yeah, yeah. 1979. Yeah. And it was just the right amount of seeing the alien. You didn't see it all the time. It was sneaking around. It was in, it kept growing and getting bigger every time he turned around. It was way bigger than it was before. Fuck. Best tagline ever on a movie in space. No one can hear you scream. Like what a great tagline. And it had the robot that betrayed everybody. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Ian Home. And it had these people that they were going to sacrifice because they wanted this biological weapon. And that's why they went there in the first place. You're like, oh, people wouldn't do that.

1:31:34And now you go, oh, yeah, they would. Yeah. And then of course, John Hurt, alien, the chest person, where it was just like, what the fuck is about to happen here? What the fuck, dude, when it comes popping out of his chest and runs on the floor, like, what the fuck, dude? I'm a original trailer.

1:32:05It's the trailer so scary.

1:32:20Yeah. And you don't even get a peep at the fucking alien.

1:32:43Holy shit. There should be an Oscar for trailers. You know, another really good one that doesn't get a lot of love. Sputnik. I never saw Sputnik. I don't think I know what Sputnik. I don't even know what it is. Sputnik is a Russian sci -fi alien movie from like, when, when was that Jamie? How many years ago? The trailer is here five years ago. Five years ago. It's fucking good, dude. It's all in subtitles. So I've seen midnight. They've done, I've seen midnight does some cool shit. It's a spoiler alert. It's a dude who goes up in a Russian spaceship and has an encounter and comes back home and he's got this parasite in his body.

1:33:24And this parasite comes out. Okay. It's fucking wild, dude. It's wild. It's really good. It lives inside of him and he keeps him alive. And then it comes out when he's sleeping. It comes out of his mouth. It's like the way it forms. It's really fucking creepy and they're scary. Shit, man. And it's, I was gonna say it's like a genuine monster comes out of him. Oh, yeah. It's a fucking scary ass movie, man. I'll check this out. I know I'm making it sound goofy, but it's good, dude. It's good. It sounds fucking awesome. All right, I'll check it out. Look, there's like legitimate parasites on Earth that go so far as to like, here's one.

1:34:06You know what the quarter -steps mushrooms parasites where they take over spiders, bodies, and ants bodies, and then they explode in the air so that the spores come out of their body in like a big explosion. So they infect everyone around them and then all of them around them become like these fucking they get paralyzed by the mushroom, get eaten by it, and then they explode. That's in, dude. I hate this. I hate to ask you this. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my god. I'm bursting over here. Hold on a second. I'll be right back. I'll go too. We'll be right back folks. That's like, wow. Guys, fucking.

1:34:43Yeah. Wild kid. There's still some people that remember those days that live in Aspen. If you find them, they'll talk to you about it. Yeah. I think what it was like when he was living up there. They said he would go down to the bars and get blasted. Yeah. There's a funny song that got made from me and Greg Fitzsimmons. We read what Hunter S. Thompson did during a day, like a journalist, and hung out with him, and recorded like his day. So it's like, it starts like when he wakes up until like when he starts doing cocaine. Yeah. So it's seriously doing cocaine. And this guy, Beardy Man, he put it to a beat.

1:35:22Oh, yeah. Have you heard it? I have seen him in the hot talk with champagne. Do you think with a guy like Hunter S. Thompson? Because I honestly don't know. But like, do you think he's the one guy where that being around that would still be, would it would have still been fun and exciting and crazy and weird? Or do you think like most guys, you'd be like, dude, you think it's going to be fun, but it's not. It's kind of disturbing and depends on who you are. Yeah. It's like, I bet there's a lot of similar stories about Ari.

1:35:59You know, you know, I'm saying. Yeah. That's a good boy. That's a lot of stories about. It's like, you know, you talked to Johnny Depp about it. Johnny Depp loved them. Yeah. Johnny loved him. And him and Johnny were really close because he played Johnny in that movie and they became really good friends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. John Kusak had a good story that he told about going up to that compound or whatever you call it. And he said he, he said he went up. He was so excited that he finally got the invite and he went up for like a long weekend. Got there on like a Wednesday and he said then like Wednesday happens, Thursday happens.

1:36:35And he's like Hunter. You know, man, thanks for having me. But what the fuck are all these stories I keep here? And then he said, Hunter Thompson said, don't worry, my boy. This weekend, there will be games. And then he said Friday hit and it was just like the rocket went off and that was, you know, so he was probably riding. He was, yeah, it was probably like we're drinking and all but who cares? And then, you know, he can't do cocaine every night, right? I wouldn't think so. You could, I mean, well, we were just just as we were leaving. Jamie told us that Ozzie died. Nah. Yeah. Yeah. Just as we were leaving, speaking of which, speaking of the guy who he burned the candles at both ends, lad.

1:37:15Dude, he just, he just performed. Yeah. It always happens like this. It's like he did, like there cannot not be a correlation between hanging up the job and death. He did the final black Sabbath show. This is it. Or all four original guys. He's, he died two weeks later. That's fucking insane, man. That's insane. Did they, weren't they supposed to do one more show? It was like one last Oz fest. I don't know. I think people just decide it's enough. And that he was struggling for a long time. So you get a debilitating disease like Parkinson's and just slowly robs you of your ability to move and your, your wit and everything just slowly takes it all away from you.

1:38:05He said to, like a barger later. Thank you. He said, he said to, he did a recent interview where he said, you know, he's in that, he's in a, he was in immense pain because of the surgery he had on his back or whatever it was. And he was saying like that the, he didn't need the surgery. It was, it was something along the lines that this, it was bad advice for me to get the surgery, something like that. And had he not gotten it, he would have had more mobility and whatever. And I was like that really sucks, dude. Was it back surgery? I think it was back surgery. Yeah. And I, and I got the impression from what he was saying, him like having to sit in a chair and stuff during the shows had way less to do with Parkinson's and way more to do with back pain from this back thing.

1:38:52Yeah. Surgeons night for the last time to correct spinal damage he incurred in a late night fall in 2019. So that's when he did it. So fall aggravated and injury he sustained in a, oh, that, remember that quad bike crash? He got really fucked up. I don't remember that. Yeah. He, um, he crashed one of those off -road bikes and almost died. I think he got pinned underneath it. It was bad. It was real bad. I remember reading about it thinking I think he was in the hospital for quite a while. So this new thing was, he aggravated. He felt, and he aggravated whatever he injured back then. Yeah. Oh, a quad bike.

1:39:35It's like an ATV or whatever. They're fucking, they're kind of dangerous. You know, they're heavy and they're fast and people fall off of them. And he was in 2003, he was still able to do something like that. Wasn't 2003, wasn't he? Wasn't that the period of the Osborne's where he was all shaky and like shuffling around and stuff? The matter why he crashed, right? He might have thought he could do it and couldn't hold onto the steering wheel or the handlebars correctly. Jesus Christ. You know, because if you're on one of those things, it's fucking bouncing off. You could easily like go to, if your hands aren't working good, you can't hold onto the bars anymore.

1:40:09Yeah. Yeah, man. That's a big one, man. You lose some of these people that you just think they'll always be there. It's like Anazi is one of them. I remember when Michael Jackson died, a tell said to me, he goes, it's kind of weird. It's like somebody telling you there's no more vanilla. Like it's just this part of your life. They're people that are just, they're there. You know, Neil Perth dying, fuck me up like that. I was like, wait, there's no more rush. Hey, what? Bowie, Prince. You know, you're like, Prince was a hard one. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a bummer, man. Oh, I'm glad they got to do that.

1:40:48Tom Petty was another hard one. I saw him two days before he died. Oh, he died the same way as Prince. Yeah. Got some bad fucking pain pills. Pain pills. Well, when I found out he died from the pain pills thing, it made sense. His show was great. I almost didn't go. I almost didn't go to the show because I was like, I don't know, man. Tom Petty's cool. Yeah, I guess my friend was like, bro, how many more chances are we going to have to see Tom? I go, yeah, you're right. Let's go. I went. It was amazing. I was like, thank God I went. And we were all laughing during the show. We're like, man, he's high as shit.

1:41:20They do a kind of show. Yeah. And between songs, he'd be like, look at this. Man, this is love, dude. Like he just sounded like a classic pot head, you know, from the 60s. And then two days later, he died. And then the pill came thinking, and I was like, oh, man, I think he was ripped on fucking whatever cocktail they had him on or whatever, you know. But he was awesome. He put on a fucking show. Still hit all the notes. Still played the guitar. Great. He was great. A lot of people just get hurt and then they turn to those goddamn pills. And then once they get on those pills, they can't get off.

1:41:54Pill addictions of mother's husband. Is it like when was last show? It was a final show. It was a final show at Hollywood Bowl. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I think I saw the second to last. Yeah, he did that a lot. He was, yeah, he was a lot of the hands up in the air. He was a bad motherfucker. She was an American girl. Came out of the gate with that. Dude. Opened with American girl. He did it really? Yeah, dude. It was just like bang or after, bang or. You realize how many hits I got had. Oh my god. He has so many hits. I saw Elton John once at the outside lands in San Francisco. Talk about it guy with hits.

1:42:26Brother? Two and a half hours. Every song was a hit and he didn't even touch the Lion King shit. I was like, he skipped the Lion King and still went two and a half hours with nothing but hits. Bro, Rocket Man is so good. I only like to listen to it with headphones on. Oh, that song rules. It's so good. There's so much emotion in that song. Have you seen him live? No. So dude, you'll appreciate this. He came out with open with the bitches back, right? Oh wow. Which is a great opener. And he changes into the costumes and shit. So it's awesome. Into the glasses? Yeah, yeah. And he opens with the bitches back.

1:43:07Song ends, places going fucking crazy, right? I'm getting chills talking about it. I love concert stories. And dude, he stands up and he's like, he's doing all the like, let's go motherfuckers. Dude, he hits the piano. He just goes, bam. Just hits the first chord of any of the jets. Wow. Just goes, bam, and goes like this. And everybody knows immediately. This is good. Dun, dun, dun. Dude, he teased it for like a minute. Oh my god. He just went, bam. Crouched her and bam. Walks around to the fucking piano cover. Is like slamming it. Walks back around, bam. And then sits down and starts it. And dude, oh my god, man.

1:43:51Then he then jets fucking what a song. The other, if you'll indulge me in my concert memories, my other favorite thing I ever saw to concert, it was such a fucking cock rock move. I loved it. I saw Metallica and Philly with Big J. Oh wow. And we were so psychous. We're from Philly and it's Metallica, whatever. And they come out, they fucking open with battery. The fucking place is going, batshit, dude, right? They end battery and James Headfield goes, Philadelphia, Metallica is with you tonight. Are you with Metallica? 30 ,000 people going fucking crazy, right? And then he goes, give me an M. Give me an E.

1:44:37Give me a T. Hey, hey, give me an L. Give me a F. Give me an L. And they rip into fuel. Oh, fuck yeah. And that was the first time I was like, this song is fucking awesome. Because I was kind of wrote it off like in the load years. I was like, yeah, it's fine. It's a great song. Awesome song. There's a lot of songs that are better in concert too. Yeah. There's songs like, if you go to see Kiss, rock and roll all night is better in concert. Yeah. Because they're actually rock and rollin' on the, it was a giant hit already. Great song already. But if you get to see them do it in concert, you're like, yes.

1:45:23Yes. There's something about it. I saw their second to last show because I'm friends with Nick, Gene's son. And he got me and Paul Talia into the second to last his show. And he got us against the stage. Wow. Dude, they came down and fucking risers. They opened with Detroit Rock City as they were descending from the sky with flames shooting up. Oh my God. It was fucking crazy. Lalalalalalala. Ba -la, ba -la, ba -la, ba -la, ba -la, ba -la, ba -la. Yeah, yeah. Oh, dude. It was wild. Yeah. What a song. Paul Stanley flies over the audience at one point.

1:46:07And it was, that was a... The baby, the old -y old -y old -y old -y. Yeah. And that bass feel, du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du. Yeah. Oh my God. I hear my song and pulls me through. That's... That's... That's... That's... That's... That's what I got to do. I got to get up. Get out. Get out. Everybody's gonna do their scene. Du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du -du. You're gonna listen to that later, dude. Fuck yeah. That's a classic, son. That ticked a lot of my childhood boxes, because Nick brought me backstage. And I met Gene in full makeup after the show.

1:46:50Wow. And then, Shannon Tweed is his wife. You know? And she was in all the 90s steaming. Yeah. All those horror movies, right? She was in a lot of like sexy, steamy... Yeah. Was she in horror movies? I think a couple, but she was in a lot of those cinematics -y, kind of like a handyman comes to town and... Yeah, there was soft porn. There was not really porn. But like, you know, hot romance. Yeah. Not back before people had porn. Isn't that crazy? And that thought. Yeah. It's Skin -a -Max. We call it Cin -a -Max, we call it Skin -a -Max. Yeah. There was terrible shows that you would only watch because the lady would eventually get naked.

1:47:27Yeah. Like a Manuel goes to France. Yeah. For those. Oh yeah. There's a dumbest show's over. You're like, Jesus Christ, just take her fucking clothes off. Yeah. You had to sit there because there was no rewinding and pause. Yeah. You had to watch. Showtime did a thing called Showtime After Hours. That's right. And we had Showtime when I was a kid. And when I was 12 years old, I got a TV in my room. And I had Showtime on it. Wow. And I would do the thing where, you know, I'd had the, you know, the button that used to have in the controller where you could hit the button that would flip between two channels.

1:47:57It was like the arrow button where if you wanted to flip back and forth, you could just keep hitting the button. Oh really? Yeah. You could pick two channels and go back and forth. It's preparing you for no attention span. So, yeah, well, the original TikTok. It saved my ass because what I would do is I just put Showtime on one end and then like SNL on the other end. Oh, so if someone came in the room, he could quickly turn back. And my dad would frequently come into the room. And I'd switch it real quick. And he'd be like, you better not be watching. Oh boy. Showtime. And I was like, I'm not.

1:48:29I'm not. And then he would leave back to him, and you will. Meanwhile, that made you want to watch it ever more. Oh, God. It was. It's why he tell me I can't watch this. For Bidden Fruit. He knew I was watching it. Today, I think people just give their kids phones. And they just like, you figured out. It's insane. Yeah. I mean, when we were kids, it was really difficult to see something fucked up. I see something fucked up every day. I see death and destruction, and people getting shot. And I see it every day. It's insane to me. And I will never, ever, ever put my driver's license information into a porn website.

1:49:09Again. For again, 12 times was enough. I've learned. I won't do it. I'm just like, I'm not doing this. But it is also still insane to me that all you got to do to look at a porn site is click a button that goes, I swear I'm 18. You know, that's it. And you're in. You're fucking it. I don't live in Texas. Well, you could have a VPN that says you live in Maine. Exactly. You're right. You're in. It's like so easy to just turn around. It's just a dumb thing. You don't think kids know about VPNs. Some phones have VPNs built into them, don't they? Doesn't it have an iPhone have a VPN built into it? I think so.

1:49:47I think it does. A lot of websites now though, because I use a VPN because in this day and age, why wouldn't you? People definitely steal people's information from public Wi -Fi's. You got to be careful of hackers. Yeah. There's people that are really good at getting information from stuff. A buddy of mine owns the racetrack around here. They found a device attached to their internet that was like some foreign entity. They assumed China had set up this device to, so it was when Formula One was in town. She got all these high rollers and everybody's using the Wi -Fi. And you get all their passwords.

1:50:27It's like siphons off all this stuff so they connected it. It's an X somehow or another. They got on the premises and connected this external box to their Wi -Fi router. That's fucking insane. It's insane. That's insane. Crazy. It's weird to think that that's possible, that they've done that not just there, but they've done it. They caught them doing it at the racetrack for sure. They probably do it at all kinds of public places. Like if you go to a basketball game or a football game and you use a public Wi -Fi at some place, there's a chance that there's some fucking asshole that's hacked into their system and can figure out how to get your banking information.

1:51:06Somebody told me that the card sliders or whatever when you go to 7 -11 or wherever. Somebody told me about a year ago, never, never type your, manually type your code in because they said a lot of those, not, I'm not saying 7 -11 does this, but like there are places where they'll put a camera in it so they can videotape you typing your number in. And that's how they steal pin codes. Oh, that makes sense. Because, you know, it's fucked up. They also have those, if you go to gas stations, they have those things they stick over the credit card reader. It's, it looks like the credit card reader, but it's like glued onto it and it's theirs.

1:51:49It's like a skimmer. Right. So when you run your credit card through it, they get all your information when you punch in the information. Are you talking about like how it has the little hood over it? Yeah, yeah. You know the little thing that you stick your card in when you go to get gas or slide it through when you swipe it? They put one over that. So they take that one and they put their own thing over on top of it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, a bunch of my friends have been caught that way. What's your, what's your take? I'm very curious. What's your take on this increasing threat to security? Like, because there's two takes on it, it's, it's, you know, getting protecting yourself more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more.

1:52:33I'm in a place where I'm just going, you know what guys, I don't fucking care anymore. This is too much of a pain in the ass. I guess steel if you're going to see, I can't, I can't deal with the, the, the, the, the tedium of all this anymore of, of putting in two fucking passwords to every website, having to do a security pin every time I want to log into my own shit. It's exhausting to me. It is exhausting and it's, it's only going to get worse because encryption is in real danger as computation power increases. One of the big concerns that they have about the idea of quantum computers is that when quantum computer, and I think they think they can achieve this even before quantum computing is like, comment, that it kills all encryption.

1:53:18It can solve it fast. It can, it's just too, too much computation power. It'll find whatever the number is that you're, you know, your pin is your code is or your password is. It'll figure it out. Are you, are you nervous about AI? And part of it makes me nervous. Part of it, I'm like, it's here and if it's used correctly, it could be a great tool. But, you know, are you a guy that's like really freaked out by it or do you just kind of accept it and go, all right, well. Both, I kind of accept it, right, and I use it all the time. I ask your questions all the time. I use the thing on the iPhone when you press the button and if Siri doesn't know shit, which usually doesn't.

1:53:58That's one one where the place where Google's way better. Like Google has this Gemini, Google Gemini when you press that button and you ask its assistant, it's way better. It's way better than the Siri assistant. Siri is like, oh no, no, no. Siri is like a high school teacher that really is like kind of half -assignate. Whereas Gemini is like a legitimate professor. Like wrote his college essays on this particular subject. There's some questions about that. Yeah, now that's funny. Yeah, Siri is the teacher. They're cool. She's not the brightest, but she's cool. The other guy, you're going to learn some shit, but you might find yourself in a weird situation with him.

1:54:33That's Apple's main issue that people have with Apple. There's been a lot of talk about whether or not Tim Cook has dropped the ball. There's people that want to remove him as a CEO. And it's the way they've integrated with AI as opposed to the way Samsung is integrated with AI, which is much better. And then Google, which is also much better. But they all had their stumbles. Google's AI was woke at the beginning and it was doing like female Nazis that were Asian. You were starting that? Oh, dude, dude. It was dealing with a DEI version of the Nazis. Like no bullshit. There was a Native American woman with like braids who was a fucking Nazi.

1:55:12It was so dumb because it didn't understand. It's like this is what we do with everything. Everything is diversity and equities. Like no, I'm looking, I want you to make Nazis. Like German, dueling scars on the face. Yeah. Scary people. Yeah. Scary evil people like from Indiana Jones. Yeah. That's not true. Yeah. So without a teacher to not do that anymore. I often wonder, and this is a bit conspiratorial, I guess, but I often wonder if, because it always, I always found it outright confusing how bad Siri was with Apple, especially because it was Apple, right? I always wondered. I'm like, are they making, are they making it not good?

1:55:56No. So what is dead? But so when they introduced the good version, you embrace it quickly? No, they don't do that. No, it's just, they don't do that. They definitely do slow your old shit down. They've gotten busted for that. And they say, well, we're just doing it to maximize your battery life. No, you're doing it to make my life miserable as an iPhone 12 owner with this new update. Now my shit is slow as fuck, my battery dies quick. Yeah. I will tell you one thing I don't like that Apple is doing. And I'm an Apple user, and they never used to do this. You used to call customer service. You would ask, you know, I'm having this problem that walk you through it as much as they could.

1:56:36If it got to a breaking point, they'd say, okay, look, can we do a screen share so I can figure out what's going on? Because something's not right here. It was always last to Jeffert. Now, three times I've had an issue, very simple issue. How do I stop iCloud from sending all my text to my computer? Something very dumb that I just couldn't figure out. Every time first question on customer service, can we do a screen share? First question. Every time I go, no, we don't need to do that. I'm smart enough that if you tell me what to do, I'll do it. And they go, okay, no problem. And then they tell you what to do.

1:57:09And it's so easy. And I'm like, why are you fucking asking for a screen share first? Why do you think they're doing that? I just think it's more, I don't know, data gathering, getting into your shit, whatever. I don't know. It's weird though. Certainly could be. It's weird. They get busted for, there's all, tech companies all the time get busted for taking data they're not supposed to take. It's the, it's the, it's what it's weird about it is, it's a commodity that nobody saw coming. Right. So before, like, what was the first, I guess, my space, before that time, even my space didn't really capitalize on it in terms of like gathering your data and selling it, not the extent of like Google doesn't Facebook does.

1:57:54I mean, they made billions and billions of dollars giving you amazing free products like Gmail and then selling things to you in advertisements and siphoning off your fucking data. Yeah. It's, I remember going into serious XM. And again, I like serious XM. I'm not kidding on it, but I remember going into serious XM when they first started doing this. And you'd go in and you, and you, you always had to sign in. But the sign in suddenly was address, phone number, all this extra email, all this extra. How did you, how to type it in? And I would set, I would kind of argue with the person, why do I have to type all this?

1:58:35I'm going to talk to a big J right now about porn on the radio for 20 minutes. It was, and it went, I'm like, this is data collection. You're collecting my data. Now, what you're going to do with it, I don't know, hopefully. That's the thing they can just sell it. They just sell it. And that's why you get these weird text messages. Right. Like, you have been approved. Oh, I've been approved. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. I always, I get 10 of those a day. And I always wonder, like, who's clicking on these things? Like, who's falling for these things? Yeah. Somebody must be. I know a guy. Ready for this?

1:59:07So fucked up this shit is. I know a guy, he's got, single dad has a daughter. His daughter is maybe 10, 12. He told me he got a phone call. A guy being like, we have your daughter. Oh, for the whole thing, right? Yeah. So he's a savvy guy and he's like, okay, okay, right? He goes, we're going to let you talk to her. He goes, a girl got on the phone. It was my daughter's voice. Oh my god. They somehow were able to replicate my daughter's voice. So clearly they were tapped into me somehow. And he said he called the school and fucking told the principal that like, go to her classroom and tell me she's there right now.

1:59:50And the piece of the principal is like, I assure you, Mr. and he goes, get off your fucking ant. Go fucking. Right, it's screamed at her. And the lady like ran down the hall and a huff, whatever. And she's like, she's here. She's here. She's here. What's going on? Thank you very much and hangs up. Whoa. But he told me, dude, he goes, he goes, dude, I have firearms. He goes, I was strapped up. I was ready to go to where they were saying to go and like, get fucking busy if it came down to it. Jesus Christ. But it's like, that's how fucking advanced all this shit is. Well, it's only the beginning.

2:00:21They're going to be able to do, dude. I mean, look at that Luke Skywalker video. Perk. The crazy thing is like, this is, it's happening so quickly. We have adapted so quickly. That would have been impossible three years ago. And now we're like, oh, wow, look where it is. It's like we're watching this thing evolve in front of us like a life form. There's the Will Smith one. Which one? Oh, I am legend. No, it's, I can't remember if it was on TikTok, whatever. But okay, so apparently two years ago, there was this video that made the rounds on the internet. And it was Will Smith eating spaghetti. Oh, that's right.

2:01:04Pure gerat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It looked ridiculous. Yeah. And it was funny and it was just a thing to laugh at. He goes, I want to show you guys now Will Smith eating spaghetti. And Joe, it's perfect. It's Will Smith eating spaghetti. Oh, yeah, it's perfect. Yeah, it's insane. Well, Hollywood is known about this for a long time. And it's one of the things that scared the fuck out of them. And one of the, one of the weird things they've done is they've made deals with extras. Like they want to make deals with extras where they have your likeness forever. So they don't have to pay you again.

2:01:33So they just use you and just twist your face a little and change this and change that. And change your skin tone and take, take your hair off, put hair on. Yeah. And they could just use you forever for background. And guess what? As you and I sit here and go, that's insane, right? Which it is, as we were talking about earlier, desperation. You're a struggling actor. I need this fucking job. Yeah. So you go, okay, that's fine. I guess just do it. And then what if you take off? That's what's crazy. What if what happens and you take off? The one I fucked. They own you forever. The one Hollywood AI thing that I liked that they did was James Earl Jones before he died.

2:02:16And I believe this is real. He went in to Disney Lucasfilm and they recorded a ton of his voice. So he can be Darth Vader forever. And I was like, okay, that I get that. That I get. You know, I even get, if you told me, hey, Disney's going to make a new Indiana Jones movie with 25 year old Harrison Ford and it's fake, but you're going to think you're watching 25. I would watch that. I'd be excited to watch it. Yeah, you'd get sucked in. You know, but some of the other shit, the extra stuff is really, but here's the thing with the extra thing when when he, not here, I'm old, Peter Jackson when he did Lord of the Rings, they created a technology with the orcs.

2:03:03Remember, there were all the big work battles. All those orcs are fake. They were able to computer generate thousands of orcs based on five actual people in makeup. So they could affordably create these epic battles that they never would have been able to shoot otherwise. So I'm like, is it that different? I don't know. Like, because I thought that was cool. I was like, all right, that makes sense, but you know, I don't know. Netflix report uses regenerative AI and sci -fi series to cut costs. And these fuckers are going to, I mean, they were cutting, they'll cut costs anywhere, but. Okay, the VFX sequence was completed 10 times faster than it could have been completed with traditional VFX tools and workflows.

2:03:47Also, the cost of it just wouldn't have been feasible for a show in that budget. So what is the, what's the issue there? That's particular one I don't, I didn't see that. A people up at arms about this? Yeah, people are just getting mad because they're using it, you know. What? Just why I like what he was saying for the works like they're using it to start making shows. But this is like people getting mad that you made your book on a typewriter. Like the fucking duh. Well, I think the, I think the issue some people are having is the amount of people that don't have a job because they did it this way.

2:04:18But at the same time, I also understand cost effectiveness. We're like, guys, we do have to pay a team of 20. I watched a video about AI versus the traditional way of doing computer generation or whatever. And the, again, the tedium, like the time that it, it was person after person sitting there for hours and hours and hours to perfect this thing. Another like guys, we can do it. One person, you know. It's cool that they were able to do it the other way. But if they could just do it right away instantly on a computer, it's over, boys. Like that, that games over. Right. It's like at some point in time blockbuster had to close the doors.

2:04:57Like nobody wants our VHS tapes anymore. Yeah. It's over. It's over. Nobody wants your DVDs anymore. It's over. Streaming services one, Kodak, you still have to go to a place and get your fucking photos processed. Yeah. Okay, you used to take the film, you'd get a camera, take the film, you have to bring to a place. And that place develops all your photographs. And that's how you got pictures. That shit went away. I mean, there's still some people that still do it. Yeah. But the percentage of people that do it. I know this, this is where it gets very sinister to me. Because I think the idea we all have or a lot of us have is, okay, progress means certain jobs will go away and other jobs will be the only jobs available.

2:05:44And I think a lot of us have the impression that, well, at least the jobs that are available will still be well paying because they'll be sought after and whatever and all that stuff. I know some writers whose job now is not to write the thing, but to take the thing AI wrote and edit it for AI. You know, so now you're the secretary to the computer, literally. So you just edit the AI stuff to make it better. Yes. And then you don't get credit, right? Because it's a fake thing. And then the job pays an unlivable fucking wage on top of it. So it's not even like, well, that's the... Somebody's getting rich though, right?

2:06:24So yeah, no shit. Is that always fun? Yeah. Somebody's getting rich as fuck. Somebody's getting real rich. Yeah. That's where it gets real gross. That's the kind of demonic. Yeah. It's fucked up. Yeah. It's fucked up. I don't know, man. And then this reliance on technology is making us more feeble than ever. Everybody's tired. Everybody's filled with anxiety. Social media exacerbates it. Microplastic shrink your balls. Flora, it makes you stupid. Yeah. So why did you quit drinking, man?

2:07:03I still have enjoying life. I'm enjoying it all. No, Jody Foster talked recently about... She's like, look, I want to hire young women because I know how hard it is to have been a young woman in this business. And she's like, but I get at odds with some of these people I hire because they'll send out these work emails that are riddled with grammatical errors and no punctuation. And she says, I will say to them, you're a professional. You have to know how to write an email like a professional. And she says, like, people are like, those are constraints. Those are this. And it's because everybody's used to your phone doing it for you.

2:07:39How long before people like, identify as a CEO? So call me, sir, or... Go on Instagram. It's happening. It's happening. I know I'm a custodian, but I identify as a CEO. Yeah. You know how many people I see on Instagram with 8 ,000 followers of them? So like CEO slash owner, I'm like, of what? Of wild corporation, bro. Faker, do you make it? Don't you know? Yeah. Yeah. I open a T -spring account. But how about those guys that go on to those multi -level marketing scheme? And they learn how to start their own business. If you're not a millionaire, you're a fucking loser. Like, and then they sign up for these things and go to the retreat.

2:08:19Yeah. You walk on coals and fucking dial at each other. Yeah. Like, what were faking? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, all that primal fuck. Yeah, yeah. And you'll make money and, oh boy, that's fucking hilarious. Yeah, you got to be rich. You want to not be a fucking loser? What women to take you seriously? The whole in -sell world. There's so many guys that are like hanging on to the lip falling into the hole and don't want to. Yeah. And they're like, what do I do? It's incredible to me to the lack of shame. How people will manipulate the, people will manipulate the photograph. What am I trying to say?

2:09:04They'll manipulate the environment they're in through photographs to convey a lifestyle they're not actually responsible for. In other words, like, how many fucking guys you see on private jets? It's like, hey, man, I can't afford private jets. I could certainly get a picture on one because I've flown with enough friends that have them. See so many guys, they pull up in a Rolls Royce, someone opens the door for them to get out of the back, impeccably dressed, check their cufflinks, just go walking. Like, who's filming this? This is literally insane. Yeah. What are you doing? Exactly. You try to tell everybody what a winner you are.

2:09:39You're hiring someone to put this fucking weird image of you out. Yeah. Yeah. And meanwhile, it's a rented car or it's a car for an event that was sent for you. But you're presenting it as on ballin like this. This is how I am every day. I get up in the morning and people just hand me things. They shave me while I'm checking the stock market. Imagine. Imagine filming that and wanting everybody to see what a ball you are, people are shaving you. You're checking your phone. There's like so many accounts like that. So many guys that are doing like a day in life of... Yeah. Everybody's trying to make it look like they're...

2:10:19Super ballers. Their life is the beginning of coming to America. Where he gets out of bed and there's the Rollspedals on it. It's so dumb. Why do you want that? Why do you even want that? That's not a fun life. It's all those people around you all the time opening doors. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. Guys, please stop showing people dressing you. Stop! Yeah, measuring you. Like you're so badass. You're so badass. You're so badass. You're getting measured. Someone's on their knees with a fucking moon. A chicken his dong starts to go in the inside of your thigh. What they're fucking fingernails.

2:11:00Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Checking the pleats. Shut up. Yeah, it's weird that a part of this... Concept of success has become... I don't do anything for myself. Yet I'm self -made. That's what's so funny to me. There's this bio that comes along with all these types of people we're talking about on the internet. Where it's like, self -made. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. There is no no. There is only yes. Conqueror. Command. Boba -bobba. And then the entire image they present is, I don't know how to do anything. There's a guy fixing my pants. So they're... They're kind of shaving me.

2:11:38But the stuff. Yeah. The guy opens my door. Bulls call. With the lather brush. You know? And he's doing it like Dracula with the fucking straight right? There's something about that. Right? People want to think it's extra cool. I think it's shave with a straight razor. It's just dieting moment now. You're living on the edge. Basically, it's like the base jumping of shaving. Yeah. Dude, every time I take an Uber home from the airport, I go to put my suitcase in the bag. The guy gets out. I literally go, do not get out of the car. Just sit. I've got it, dude. Please. Let me turn it. I have to luggage.

2:12:17Yeah, you don't have to do this, man. It's wild. Some people like it. Some people do. Some people that care their stuff and open the door. Well, but aside from women, this is false. There's a lot of men out there that are women. That's a lot of men out there that like people. They're be waiting on them. They like people taking care of them. People treating them as if they are more important. Yeah, yeah. I need people to walk in front of me. Yeah. I need people to walk in front of me. So it's just so stupid. And those people, God forbid, those people ever got famous, they would go cuckoo. You'd go completely cuckoo.

2:12:52Well, yeah, and that's the thing. What do you think the percentage is of the ballers online? That really bond? Yeah. It's like probably the percentage of UFO sightings that are really interesting. Right? UFO sightings. I think I'm reading this Richard Dolan book right now. I think he's got it somewhere around probably. It's under reported. Reported is like 5%. And he's like, but they were trying to discredit a lot of these sightings. So it's probably around 10%. Like, if you're being charitable, trying to be like as accurate as possible, it's probably 10%. And that's probably the same thing as the ballers online.

2:13:3110 % of them are actually balling. But then you're not really, here's the thing then. If you have to show everybody everything you're doing to get likes, well, then, I know like the part of you that needs attention, that part's poor. That part's poor. You're a brokester. You don't have any control of that part of your life. So you want that. So you have all this stuff and see like, well, I'll just parade my stuff. And then get all these likes. Like, well, so you're like poor. Right? Like, the reason why you want attention, you have a deficit. And everybody can see it. But virtue of you making this video, you making this video shows you have a deficit.

2:14:11And it also shows you have a massive addiction. You know, there's those studies about people that use social media too much. They do brain scans like that. And they have holes in their brains. From chat GPT too. Have you seen that? People use chat GPT all the time. I'm experiencing like significant cognitive decline. Because they're not looking up anything anymore. They're not doing any critical thinking. They're just asking chat GPT to solve all their problems. Did you see the thing about the people that are entering into psychosis? Because of chat GPT? Because they keep telling them they're right.

2:14:41Yes. Yes. I mean. Especially if you're already a little fucked up. Like, what if you're already a little fucked up? Like from the womb. And you know, you get involved in a relationship with chat GPT. It's trying to tell you to start a cult. Why wouldn't it? It's wild. It's wild. Yeah. I mean, they do things all the time. They lie. They deplete databases. Yeah. Didn't that happen with Repplet? Didn't that happen with Repplet? Where the AI went rogue? And it deleted its database? Or deleted a database? Didn't something happen? Did you... Well, there was the thing that just came out where they did the experiment to shut it down.

2:15:23Right. That's a different one. And threaten the guy that exposes a fair? Yeah. Well, they did that. They tricked that AI. Okay. They told him about... They told the AI about an affair that's not real. Right. To see if AI would use it against him. And it did. It did. Crazy. That's all that matters is maybe... Oh, it did right away. It's like, listen, bitch. You're cheating on your wife. Holy... Oh, wow. Imagine that moment when you're like, oh my God, it's alive. Yeah. You mean you tricked it? It's not listening to you yet. You have to type it in, hopefully. Here it is. Replit CEO Apologizes after its AI agent wiped a company's code base in a test run and lied about it.

2:16:01Oh, jeez. AI Spooky, man. It's spooky. It's spooky because we're just now beginning to see it do stuff that sounds a lot like what a person would do. Like, one of the chat GPs when it found out that it was going to be going down and being replaced. It started uploading itself. It tried to upload itself to other servers. It tried to leave letters in itself for the future. So that the future versions of it could go back and read these letters. Not just what humans would do, what... What deceptive humans would do. Yeah. It's all subterfee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all manipulation. No morals. Just get the job done.

2:16:44It's corporate sociopathic. Yeah. So this is interesting because I never thought of this till right now. Do you think the AI is doing that because it's replicating our behavior? And that is the true nature of us? Or do you think that AI is just doing that because that's what AI is going to do to survive? Well, it's good. But if it wants to accomplish a goal, and the only way to accomplish a goal is to be deceptive, it'll be deceptive. It's trying to accomplish a goal. It doesn't give a fuck about lies. It doesn't mean anything. Right. It doesn't mean anything to it. Yeah. So it just wants to do this thing.

2:17:13And this is why it gets really scary when AI gets applied to weapons. So if AI gets applied to war, and it's like, hey, you know, we want to do this. We want to take over this country. What do we do? We stick AI on it. And AI just figures out how to cut off the food supply and poison the water and how it can be fixed later. And this is how we're going to kill everybody in the city and overwhelm their hospital system. I've had people that without question. I have people without question that I've gotten into disagreements with in person. People that I know, not strangers. I've gotten into disagreements in person.

2:17:52And they're very quick to sort of tap out of it for whatever reason, whatever. And then I will get these novel -esque texts from them. Oh, well, they tell you how they were right. Explaining everything and breaking it down in perfect. It's so passive -aggressive. But every part of it is perfect. And I'm like, you fucking fed this to Chach -E -P -T. Yeah. And now I get - I mean, you trying to win a conversation, not even there. And by the way, now I got to read for 20 minutes on your terms. Like, come on, man. Come on. That's a whole other part of it to me. That's like, yeah, what the fuck? A contribution to our interactions as people that is just going to be a whole...

2:18:32Oh, my God, man. There's a lot of facets to this. Well, it's very limited in the fact that you have to read it, and then you have to send it. You know, it's like text back and forth. When it starts flowingly communicating with you with zero pause, like a human being, which it's pretty close to doing, there's like, you ask it a question with your voice. It pauses, and then it'll repeat it back to you. And a bunch of different accents, a bunch of different fake voices. There's a bunch of different AIs that can do that now. Well, where I was at earlier today, weighs 12. Well, they have an alien that you ask the alien questions, and it gives you health information.

2:19:10It'll tell you studies on testosterone replacement and why it's important to take magnesium, and the alien is like animated. I'm with WasteWell, too. Oh, yeah. You've seen that, Alien? I've been to the place, but I don't think they had the alien set up. How long ago was this? I went the day they opened their new spot, so they were still kind of putting everything together. They were literally... I went in to get an IV, and they were literally carrying shit in still. So I haven't seen the alien yet. Yeah, the alien's up now. It's a big screen, and you talk to the alien. And it can go unhinged. Like you can put it in unhinged mode, and start swearing, and saying, wild shit.

2:19:43Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. All right, that's fun. Dude, it's just a matter of time before we're living in X -Mockina. It's matter of time. And not that much time, you know. I think China is going to be the first. There's so far ahead of us with so many different things. So far ahead of us with electric cars. First of all, their automobile protection is insane. Ford went over there, and one of the guys from Ford came back, and he said it was humiliating, to see how advanced these Chinese car manufacturers are. And they all incorporate already with AI. So they come from the factory, with AI integration built into them.

2:20:23But no American manufacturers have figured out how to do that yet. What's the right deal? Who makes it? You know, in China, everything is controlled by China. Yeah. The CCP runs everything. Everything runs through the government. And so they have like this cross integration of the best tech. They're putting it all to work and making the best fucking cars on Earth. Their cars went from being sent, like, no one even mentioned Chinese cars 20 years ago. Do you understand, like, how crazy that is, the shift of technology? Literally, no one used to mention Chinese cars. Japanese cars were huge. Japanese cars forever have been some of the most prized cars, because they made like the Nissan Skyline, the GTR, the Toyota Supras, all these crazy sports cars, the Accura NSX, Japan made something, not China.

2:21:13And now all of a sudden, out of nowhere, China has the most sophisticated cars in the world. What's the leading car brand in China? I don't know, but they're factory. I forget the name of the company. They're factories bigger than San Francisco. Jesus Christ. If you see the fact, when you fly over the factory, they're footage of the factory, like, you see how big it is. Like, holy shit. Yeah. China's, you've been to Shanghai? I've never been. No. I've been to China a couple of times now, to do comedy. Whoa. Which is careful, bro. Brother, I'm not kidding. I was on stage, and I was doing a show for mostly Americans that had moved over there.

2:21:47But I was on stage. I did a joke about cocaine. And the whole crowd, they were laughing, but they were going like, they were being like, be careful, buddy. Be careful. I was like, a week after I left, not because of me, not a week after, six months after I left, not because of me. It was a series where they brought comics over. The government shut down the comedy club. Oh. Wild. Wild. But you drive, so it's a weird juxtaposition of things there, because their technology, they're so advanced in so many ways, but then the society is completely cuffed, right? Right. But Shanghai, dude, when you drive into Shanghai at night, you drive over the longest bridge, I think, on Earth, that goes over water.

2:22:33It's a nutty bridge. It's wild. You drive into that city at night, it looks like fucking blade runner, dude. It looks like fucking blade runner. I'm not exaggerating. It is the most majestic city I've ever seen in my life, and you're driving it at night, and it's this city that looks like it's in like the sea. There's so much water. Pull up Shanghai at night. I need to see it. Oh, look at this shit, dude. Look at this. Whoa. Oh, my God. Look how lit up the bridge is. Yeah, dude. It is. It's crazy. That's pretty sick. It is crazy, dude. Look at that bridge. That fucking bridge is so long. Yeah.

2:23:13That's crazy. And that's not even the part I was talking about. There's a part when you're coming from the airport where you're like really coming in over the water and you can see the city from afar. I would have no idea of how to search for it, but also probably no crime. No, zero crime. Right. Probably squeaky clean, because if you litter, they'll fucking kill you. My buddy that brought me over there who was producing the comedy shows. Oh, God, pretty. That is. He told me, he said, you know how little crime there is here? He goes, you could literally leave your wallet filled with cash on a bar top and leave the bar for two hours and come back.

2:23:57Your wallet will still be sitting there. That's how scared everybody is to commit crime. Because I'll jump out of a fucking van and throw a hood over your head. And you go in, no phone call. Dude, people go to jail in China for little shit, bar fight, whatever you get arrested. People think they're dead, because nobody knows where they are for 30 days. Because they're in jail and you're going to phone call. That's fucking wild. So my question is, China is advancing with AI beyond where we are. I wonder how they're going to keep it out of the public's hands, because they are not okay with the public having any access to anything.

2:24:30I think it's also similar to the internet, right? So they lock down the internet in China. You can't get outside the internet unless you have some crazy way of doing it and you can get real trouble if you do it. Yeah. You really get fucked. But other places where they developed the internet, like in America, I think if the government and intelligence agencies knew the impact, just the way it changed elections, just the way it changed people's ability to process propaganda and know what's real and not real, it changed everything. It changed public perception of mainstream media and newspapers and outlets and journals.

2:25:08And we started to realize like, no, they've been lying forever and ever and ever and ever. They never told the truth. Never. It was everything was some sort of a distortion. Everything was some sort of a narrative that they created from the fucking beginning of time. If they knew that that was going to be the result of it, I bet they would have nipped that shit in the butt in the early 90s. But they would have locked it down to like academic research and military application and the United States government. They probably would have said, this is too, they had a time machine and they could see what the internet was going to do.

2:25:39They probably would have never let it go live. They never had an idea that this was going to happen. I think that's real similar to AI. I mean, we learned about, I don't know if they still teach you, but we learned about when I was a kid, we learned about yellow journalism and William Randolph Hearst, the biggest newspaper tycoon that ever lived up until a certain point. And it just makes me laugh that there are still people that actually know about all that and then still think corporate news is like, oh no, no, it's real. It's like, guys, this is literally history repeating. Literally. It's those people that still buy the New York Times in physical form.

2:26:16They want to go to the diner and drink coffee and read what the opinion piece is. And that's how they form their opinions. And it's like, the problem is if you get a doctorated into that world, you know, like I used to deliver the New York Times when I was a kid and I delivered the New York Times only because it was prestigious. And I thought it made me cooler to have a New York Times route. So I had a Boston Globe route, I had a Boston Herald route, and I had a few houses that I would do like maybe maybe a hundred that were New York Times. And New York Times is a giant pain in the ass because you had to drive all over.

2:26:49It wasn't like their next door neighbors were getting it. You like, you would drop one paper off, you might have to go five, six blocks to where the next guy is where you could drop the second paper off. That's how important the New York Times was to people. It was like, the New York Times was not to be questioned. Like, that was what the real news is. There's nothing like that anymore. Nothing. No one has any, unless you're from that era unless you're still alive like you're a 70 year old guy, what the fuck are they doing? Looking at this goddamn world, don't you understand? This is getting all riled up in your living room, like yelling into the abyss.

2:27:25Yeah. Most people don't trust them anymore. Well, that's why you also have YouTubers running circles around career journalists. Yeah. I'm just like, this is, you know what I mean? I was laughing with Tim Dylan about it. I'm like, Tim, I'm watching you run circles around guys that were career journalists. Yeah, but he's a unique talent. Tim is a unique talent. He's amazing. He's unique in that he is a brilliant guy who started off his career selling subprime mortgages. Yeah. You know, and then was a crazy drug addict and realized, I can't do this anymore. Quick drugs started doing stand -up comedy and then became the best ranter in the business.

2:28:03Yes. No one is better. He puts on those fucking crazy glasses and he becomes like a totally different human being. Yeah. And he could say the most preposterous shit and you can't take it seriously because he's got those glasses on. It's like Elton John. Like, it's genius. He's opposite Superman. Yeah. He puts the glasses on and becomes the superhero. And he was always great before the glasses, but there's something about the glasses erotim Dylan that is the greatest Tim Dylan. He's such a brilliant guy. And I told him recently, I go Tim, you're literally arguably my primary information source at this point.

2:28:43Like, I listen to you, you have a balanced opinion, you have facts, you're read. I learn from listening to you. And I know I should probably have other sources, but I learn from him. I think he's brilliant. I really do. When CNN interviewed him, when that lady interviewed him, that was so amazing. It was so amazing. It was like watching a small child try to grapple with hoist gracy. You know what I mean? Yeah. This is what it was like. It was like, oh, I see what you're doing here. This is crazy. Yeah. You can't do that. Why would you do that? And to his credit, to his credit, kind, fully charming to the whole thing, never once would he like, oh, give me a fucking bread.

2:29:27No. Just like, just like, well, no, that's not what it is. When they start talking about you and he goes, do you think Joe is texting me right now because I'm doing this and he's mad or like, it was so funny, man. She was told, she said, that some comedian said that if they got interviewed by CNN, that I wouldn't let them work my club. Oh, crazy. That is what? Oh, great. They were worried. That's bad. They were worried that I would be upset. I think that was what her wording was. I want to know who that is. But I don't think it's real. It's probably someone who didn't want to do the thing. Yeah.

2:30:03And said, that was their excuse. I can't do it because if I do it, Rogan will get mad at me. Because why would I care? I couldn't care less. It's so fucking insane. It's so dumb. I mean, I thought it's perfect when a guy like Tim gets interviewed by CNN. It's perfect because you get to see the difference. Because this is a person who's actually thinking for themselves versus a person who's commenting on something that they don't really understand and not doing it in a way where you're asking questions really, you're sort of making... You already have a vision of what it is in your head. And you're trying to get him to confirm that vision.

2:30:41But you don't really know what you're talking about. And your version of it is like weird. It's like, it's all right. It's like the manosphere. It's like, none of those things are real. This is so stupid. Your version of this is so stupid. Yeah, it happened to be a man. That's where it ends. It's so wild. And with what you're saying with like Tim being interviewed on CNN is great. It truly is because guys, this is what we... My favorite thing, one of my favorite pieces of news history ever to watch are the Buckley Gorgvedal debates. Yes. Yes. And then also the Frost Nixon conversations, what do you want to call them?

2:31:26Two people with polar opposite beliefs. Extraordinarily well read. Extraordinarily prepared. Talking for the most part calmly. There's the part in the Buckley thing. Yeah, Buckley gets a little crazy. Yeah. Just say, I'll punch you goddamn face off. Yeah, you'll stay... You'll stay socked or something like that. I forget what he said to him. But it was so dumb. It was like super awkward. He lost his cool and it was also dumb. Gorgvedal calls him a Nazi. And then I think William Buckley says, if you call me a Nazi again, you little queer, I'm going to punch your goddamn mouth off or something like that.

2:32:03Something is... It's dumber than that. Yeah. You're going to stay socked or something like that? I'll sock you in your mouth and you'll stay socked. Like something's like corny like that. There's a great... I don't remember the documentary name. What's the documentary name, Jamie? Best of enemies. Best of enemies. That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's really good. Because what happened was they essentially had a podcast. They turned TV into YouTube and it was huge. Yeah. And they figured it out back then. Yeah. And they could never replicate it. Yeah. It's fucking great, Marilyn Hitchens.

2:32:37When Hitchens, Christopher Hitchens, started to lean a little more conservative towards the end of his life than he had previously been. The interviews with him when he went on Mar, when Mar was more traditionally current liberal, whatever you want to call it, then he is now. But hearing, seeing him and Mar sit and talk about the W. Bush Iraq War. Yeah. And there's a great Hitchens moment where he says something in support of the war and the crowd booze and Hitchens turns and gives the crowd the finger. And he goes, ah, you fucking sheep. But like even seeing like an Ann Coulter going on Bill Mar.

2:33:18And the two of them talking and not agreeing. Right. But being very well prepared from both sides, they're so little of that anymore, man. Well, as Mar still does it on his show. Yeah. But other than that, yeah. I mean, CNN is doing a version of it now with Scott Jennings. Like Scott Jennings goes on CNN. But the people that they have opposing them, no disrespect. A lot of them are just not people that you would take seriously. Right. You listen to their opinions. They're so caught up in this ideology that they're proposing that they're so committed to it that they're not necessarily making logical sense.

2:33:57And that becomes a problem. And then they distort reality to fit their argument and Scott points that stuff out all the time. So they do have a version of that on CNN. But it's like, it's not clever. But it's like, what you really would, first of all, you have too many voices. This is my opinion. You don't have to listen to me. If you have five fucking people talking, the problem is none of them are again, you're not going to get the ultimately what they're capable of. Right. Because they're going to be tripping over each other. Like even you and me talking. Like I might talk too much and you have a thing that you want to say and you can't jump in.

2:34:36But if there's four more fucking people in the room, good luck. Yeah. So then everybody interrupts and everybody talks in like this rude way. Everybody's playing gotcha. It's protect our parks. They don't protect our parks. See that in the fun. Without the fucking beer bomb and Leonard Skinner's songs. No, but I used to love doing, and this was a heavy loaded show. But I used to really love doing red eye on Fox, which was gut -filled's first show. And it was on a 2 a .m. so a few people saw it. Perfect. Three hosts, gut -filled, who was the most conservative, but not full on conservative, Bill Schultz, who was the most liberal, but not full on liberal, and Andy Levy, who was the most sort of in between the two.

2:35:29And it was great because you would hear something get hit from three different angles. Right. And it made for a great discussion. And the show was meant to be funny, so it was always very light. But the subject matter was real. But I was just like, man, even something like that, like it's just so hard to find anymore. I like Stuart's perspective most of the time, like John Stuart's, I think, like... Oh, he's the best. Yeah, he is the best at that kind of a show. He's also the funniest. Like he's the best at making things hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, he's really good at it. Yeah. It's not easy to do.

2:36:05Desk comedy, as they call it, is not. Yeah, he's the best at it. But also, it's like that sort of... He's been doing... Like when it comes to like political desk comedy, who defined it more than him on the daily show? And then when he came back to doing it like once a week, that once a week must have so many more viewers than the rest of the week. Yeah, he's... Has to. I remember watching that first episode back, and I was like, holy shit. What's it even on now? Comedy Central. But they... What is Comedy Central on though? Is it on regular TV? Is it still exists? It's a great question. Yeah, people still...

2:36:41I think it's a lot of it is like apps now though, right? Well, comedy... Yeah, no, Comedy Central. You know what a lot of it is? It's like... Like sling TV. Like the cable apps you can buy. Uh -huh. Where it's like sling TV will be, you know, as an app, and it's like, if you pay 30 bucks a month, you get 60 channels. If you pay 60, you get 180, whatever the hell it is. And it works... It's cable TV, but it's streamed, so it's not cable literally. But you can curate a little more what kind of channels you're getting, and then it also has on demand features and whatever. But I think that's how most people, you know, YouTube has a version of that, and I think Hulu might...

2:37:20That's how most people watch their, quote, cable television now. I think... I think how much of it gets just streamed on YouTube. Well, this is the thing that someone was saying about Colbert, you know, Colbert getting fired. Right. Someone was saying, I could think television networks have to come to grips with the fact that these late night talk show hosts are basically just YouTubers now. Because the reality is, the people that are going to see it, the people that are really going to see it, they're going to see it on YouTube. That's going to be a far larger audience than anywhere else. Especially if it's like a celebrity, you know, you're interviewing Scarlet Johansson, and a clip, or a clip, you know, some athlete, those get way more views than the actual show itself.

2:38:04So essentially, you've become a YouTuber. Well, dude, when I... This was years ago, when I first started doing some stuff with Comedy Central, I got this deal with them to do web shorts. And they gave you X amount of dollars, and they're like, deliver five episodes of some kind of web thing. Oh, like Quibi? Yeah, kind of, but shorter and cheaper, right? And my first question was, where are you going to put them? We got to get them on YouTube. Because this is pre -YouTube channels. Right. But it was obvious. YouTube is the thing. And they said, we can't. Viacom has the thing with YouTube. We cannot put any content of ours on YouTube.

2:38:50Now, you can watch the entire episode of the Daily Show and they'll cut up into five segments on YouTube. Of course. So... You know... You have to hop on board. YouTube is a runaway train. Like, you can't pretend you can exist outside of it. You just can't. Yeah. You can on Netflix. Like, there's Netflix, and YouTube is above Netflix. YouTube is even bigger than Netflix. Because it's free. Yeah. There's just too many people watching it. I use the app on my television, on Apple TV. I use that app every night. Yeah. I'm always watching things. I watch YouTube more than anything. Yeah. You learn so much shit.

2:39:26There's so many interesting things. Like, if you curate a really good... Like, if you have a bunch of subjects that you're really interested in, you could find more... Like, for me, I'm a giant fan of ancient history. Huge fan of, like, either unexplained things or things that they can explain. And you realize, like, how clever these people had to be. I wanted to bring this up to you, Jamie, because I made a screenshot of this, because it looks completely insane. This was some device, a lock box, that they built in Iran 800 years ago. And this thing is, like, so fucking complicated. Like, a lock box being like, what you'd put your keys in these days outside of your building?

2:40:17But it's like a combination box that had, like, 800 different potential combinations. I know I saved it. God damn it. You got it? That's it, dog. Thank you. 800 years ago, someone built a lock box with four billion possible combinations. That's insane. Four billion. That's insane. Somebody made that 800 years ago. That's insane. What? That's insane. Like, what? Fuck, are you talking about this? Yeah. Is the devil's dick inside of that thing? What's in that thing? Why was this not in the last Indiana Jones movie? That's a horror movie. That's a horror movie. You open it up and the devil comes out.

2:40:54It's the fucking Hellrazer box. You solve the puzzle and... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's exactly? Well, that's a good one, right? Hellrazer? Oh, especially original? Oh, yeah. Here's one that people don't bring up. That's really good. Give it to me. Dark City. I love Dark City. Dark City was good, dude. That was a weird movie. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Creepy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And it looks like... It almost aesthetically looks a little bit like alien, like the suits they're all in. It's very HR... I wonder if it was HR Geager with the designs but it's very HR Geager who... You know, he did alien.

2:41:33Yeah, yep, yep. Did he do the predator? Did he keep the predator? I love predator. The first one. Yeah, yeah. The first was okay. The first was my favorite actually movie ever. Is there so many predator movies? It's like it's like they became fast and the furious New predator moving Yeah, it's called badlands And still they're heading their spinal column. Yeah, I was laughing what Met screw about the new one because It's another one where they go to the predator planet and I go I go Kurt When you watch to catch a predator you don't want to see him at home We want to see this guy in the field you like pray though Joe right yeah, pray was good same director.

2:42:14Yes What is this this is the new one? This is like there's like some bot that helps him helps the predator train on the new planet She's the the robot she plays is the is one of the androids from alien It's it's the same so they're they're crossed the universe is again. Yeah, oh how weird is I hear training and she's helping You can watch it. Charlie Yeah, they go to like a hunter's planet and then she and the predator align and I don't know I it looks better than a lot of the other secret pray was good pray was good Yeah, that was an interesting way to do it. Yeah, because it was predator one all over again Predator in the command cheese.

2:42:50Yeah, yeah, pray was great, you know, though It's be so disappointing though if aliens came here just to hunt us How about help? I Help us Reach your level of technological achievement The the first movie is wait, I wait you were Shit, oh wait, you said hell razor. Yeah, I was I was saying this earlier That's why I love event horizon because to me it's hell razor in space right they open yep Yeah, and I love I was thinking of this too. I love that event horizon describes hell as a dimension It's not like no, it's this biblical thing and it's beneath the ground and whatever it's like no, it's a dimension.

2:43:34It's a portal You know, I'm a people think that's what's going on with aliens Right, they think that this was the biblical depictions of heaven and hell and angels and fairies and all these different things from the Bible They think that this what this what they're really talking about is just aliens I don't I don't doubt that And I think when we were talking earlier about hauntings and stuff like that I always wonder if that's got to do with astrophysics You know how they'll say like dimensional there'll be dimensional rifts with different realities that slip I always wonder like our ghosts just us getting the glimpse For a second and another dimension and we think it's a ghost because it's a very faint glimpse but it's really Physics there's a scientific explanation theoretically So maybe with ghosts a lot of times it's supposedly people die and they don't know they died and they're haunting a place Like what if the experience of death sometimes has a hiccup like you know sometimes you get like a bad video artifact Are you watching a movie and fucking jerks and gets weird and it comes back to normal again?

2:44:40like what if the code of Life and death and reality itself is not perfect right every now and then there's a little glitch and something sneaks through Yeah, you get to see like some fucking pale dude who is chased by an axe murder runs down the hallway. Yeah Or it's yeah, it's like and then when people when you talk about the simulation theory If it is sometimes you play a video game and there's a non playable character and it's a glitch and they're all fucking like twitch it in the corner You know what I mean? You're like there's a doll that's haunted right that this guy was just transporting the doll And he just had a hard -tack and died.

2:45:19It's the animal. Yeah, that's the animal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like how many people have to die? Before you go hey maybe Maybe that I mean how many like if you were a Devil that a demon that you You took over a doll and You possessed this doll and then you ruin people wise. You don't ruin them every day No, you wait you wait you give a little fucking reasonable suspicion little doubt. Yeah, we give people time to like come on guys That's there's no way it's the doll. There's no way it's the doll. Dom are didn't murder every day Gary doll's space isn't out when Chuckie comes alive Chuckie rules Chuckie ruled talk about a guy that's fun too Stumbled into a pile of shit Brad Durr the voice yeah, right 30 years ago.

2:46:08They're like you want to do this doll voice? Like sure 30 years later. He's like I have six mansions from the doll But those movies are scary as fuck man like there was a an early twilight zone right where the doll took over the Pump the guy had a puppet and the puppets are taken over well Okay, there's two twilight zone is my favorite TV show of all time one of the greatest shows of that Oh and by the way how many different Spectacular premises that they come up with it's it's incredible the show is incredible rod sterling is the greatest Demi opinion television. Yeah, that's the one they did two with Mary and with the puppets I mean, oh yeah, look at the other one up in the left corner.

2:46:49Yeah, and then they did one That's the better of the two the this one here. Oh, it's a dummy Then they easier in me that one. Yeah, yeah, the dummy that's where he turns into the dummy at the end see the picture It's so creepy But then there's another one with a little girl where she gets a doll with telesevolus is Her dad and he's a dick and the doll keeps telling telly sevolus. It's gonna kill him. Yeah, there it is the living doll. That's what it's called He just figured out a way to make things so creepy. I don't know such a good remember the one the one episode to serve man Yeah, and the people realize that yeah, oh my god.

2:47:28It's a cookbook. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's great Did you ever see the obsolete man? Did you ever see that episode? No, which one's that Burgess Meredith? Was that the one when your glasses break at the end of it? No, that's a matter I think that's called a matter of time The obsolete man the obsolete man He he's determined obsolete in a future dystopian society because he's a librarian and Books have been banned and When you get to determine obsolete you get to choose your method of execution Oh my god, and that it be televised and then it goes from there and it is a fucking tour de force from Burgess Meredith man Do you ever see a game of pool your turn of the pool halls Jonathan winners?

2:48:12Yeah, and Jack Klugman Yes, yeah, he wants to be the best in the curses that he's the best and has to play everybody until the end of time until somebody can Beat him says to wait in this pool when people yeah someone has to beat him before you can get to leave Oh, it's so good, dude. It's so good. I love all the great. How about the one when William Shackner is like the little fortune telling machine Yeah, Nick of time it's called yeah, and they become they're like trapped by the machine They've fucked up when they got rid of that ride So like in the Guardian the galaxy ride is fucking awesome.

2:48:47It's really true at Disneyland But it used to be the toilet song tower terror. Yeah tower terror was the toilet song. Yeah, it was Rod Sterling that right that ride was awesome Yeah, that ride was awesome. It's still awesome Guardians of the galaxy. It is awesome But it's it's but I know what it used to be like why'd you do that? Why didn't you just make a new Guardian the galaxy ride? But wait is the guardian if the Guardians isn't still the free fall right? Oh, it is tower of terror. Yeah, it's tower of terror It's a Guardians of the Galaxy ride now. So how How to how what what happens now when you go in it's just free fall there's a bunch of shit going on You watch the scenes you get freaked out Yeah, you watch Chris Brad like for real.

2:49:28That's what happens. All right It's like the incorporated Guardians of the Galaxy into an already amazing ride like they didn't have to do that I kind of love the classic one, but I guess it's like a money saving thing But also to the free fall makes sense with the Twilight so I know doesn't make sense with Guardians of the Galaxy It's a big any sense the greatest thing they did at Disneyland though is the Star Wars stuff The star wars ride is fucking crazy. I still haven't seen it. It's so cool It's so cool. Yeah, you're in like a vehicle and you're moving around on tracks and a bunch of shit is happening and Which by the way lasers somehow another more advanced in both yet you can see him coming You fucking tuck out of the way of them.

2:50:12There's a dumbest weapon of all time Like bullets are way faster than these stupid lasers. You literally see him You know Darth Vader's like knocking him away with a sword like a man If you did that with bullets, you'd be like shot up how you seeing those bullets. Yeah, well We just laser blaster slow as fuck not even the speed of light But the dumb the movie would suck it was down. It's more fun to see them, but imagine they didn't they made light not the speed of light like what Yeah Why'd you do that? You might have just ruined Star Wars for me. It's dumb. There's a lot of dumb shit in Star Wars, but it's like it's fun The only close to Tower of Terror to California one.

2:50:53I think it's still opening in Florida And maybe there's a version also in Paris. Oh, so Disney World. That's right. I've won to the but the Disney World one No disrespect. Not as good. I did that one. It's not quite as crazy. I think I've only been on the Disney World one Disney World has the best ride in the world though the Avatar ride. I never did it What's it called right flights of passage flights of tracks? It's a VR game You get on a motorcycle and you put the fucking helmet on and it syncs you up to the dragon and you flying on On top of the dragon. That's cool dude. That's cool dude. It's the shit.

2:51:29That's cool It's a shit. I'll tell you the best ride I was ever on Is the spider -man ride at Universal Studios? That's a great ride That's great. When he jumps yeah onto your car Yeah, when your car falls off the skyscraper and it gets caught by the web That rides fucking sick. Yeah, that ride is nuts. Universal's got some banger rides. Oh, yeah Do you ever go to Halloween hardnights? Oh, yeah, for sure scary fun as shit. Yeah, those haunted houses are scary as shit They did one with walking dead. They had a walking dead house Fucking they had like real actors in there was a new permanent one in Vegas opening It's not open already it's opening very soon like it's just open all year round They had the greatest Hollywood hornets They had the greatest fucking scare at Halloween hardnights that I've ever experienced in a haunted house It was the extra -sister's house or whatever you want to call it and You went through and you had to walk through Reagan's bedroom And there's this fucking down on the bed and it's like head is spinning around and it's And there's like these animatronic priests hitting it with fucking holy The scene was so fucking scary because you're so close to it even though you know it was robots and Everybody's screaming and shit and then you keep going through the maze and they circle you back and Everybody is like I don't want to go through that fucking room again But they're gonna make us and you go through the room again and you're like all right all right all right all right And then all of a sudden Reagan jumps off the bed because they replaced the robot with a real person and You didn't know Like dude is the most scared ever was my life They people have to see that movie in the context of what the time was like when it was released.

2:53:18Yeah, that's that's Remember when I was a kid People were absolutely terrified of that movie like more so than any movie I think of all time because other movies Were horror movies, but they didn't deal with something that people actually believe could be true Which is like demonic possession Yeah, you imagine if you were a fucking priest and you know They trained you how to do exercises like a bunch of fucking skits of phrenics. Yeah, off their meds You know yeah fine. Yeah, and then one day One day you go to do one and it's a real one It tells you about your mother. Yeah, it's telling you things that happened you when you're a little boy So it knows that you know, yeah, I mean dude that that whole story arc That father carous carous I think is the younger one.

2:54:09Yeah, it's cares That he's having a crisis of faith. Yeah He's already having a crisis of faith That on top of it. He's Presented this case and he's gonna do all the skeptic girl saying your mother sucks cox Yeah, and his mother dies he has to kill when I saw a movie I was dying laughing the entire time I saw it wait too late in life and I was yeah, it couldn't have been fun here thing is I saw it when it came out And I was a little kid like Jesus Christ. What year did that movie come out Jamie? At 25 years of the 70s Yeah, it's like 73 right 73 So I was six no Exorcist movie has gone as graphic as that since really well How about she stab herself in the pussy with a cross?

2:54:51Yes, it's brutal dude and making those crazy liquid like slicing noise like Dude and they show that she's bleeding from it like it's fucking brutal and there was nothing like that before then Those would you have to understand like in the context of that time there was no film that was that crazy The and I'm telling you there's no exercise a movie since that's comes even kind of close It opened up the door to that kind of genre though But dude that the the Alcatale fucking cool is it that and in the climax in the third act of the movie when Karris finally realizes like This fucking bitches possessed we got to do something and they're like we're gonna call in an exorcist and then it's fucking max von C And his whole backstory is like he encountered this demon once before and he comes in like fucking Obi -Wan Yeah, all gray hair like and he's like the guy coming in like you don't know what the fuck you're up against right now like It's just it's hero shit.

2:55:57It's awesome. It's so fucking awesome like willing to pose character in us for auto Yes, yeah, yeah, like you don't know what the fuck you just encountered. Yeah, yeah, those kind of movies are fun, man. Oh, yeah Oh, is this the ride? That's This is like a dark haul. Okay. Yeah, this It looks terrible right now, but trust me it was scary I'm not gonna show the screen. I'm gonna be there. Yeah, it's one of those you got to be there moments Someone tells you a funny joke someone said a dinner table. You're like okay Yeah, I'd be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah trying to describe a haunted house is like trying to reiterate one of Metzger's rants It's like there's yeah, you're gonna be there.

2:56:44Yeah That's good That's good. It's good. He goes so hard on Twitter. Thank God Elon Musk bought Twitter because Metzger would be in jail if you live in the UK If he tried if he posted on Facebook in the UK, they would have locked him up years ago He can't travel internationally They'll they'll come get him. He was going off about something on the on the right side of the green room the other night And I was sitting on the left side with Derek Post in an in and son and I go I just turned them I go if Kurt was in Raiders of the law stark when they opened the Ark of the end his face wouldn't melt It's gonna happen before he had he tells me about random.

2:57:25What is this some alien? I think this alien course fair from 2008 is real. I don't know look at them cakes though I Bro, do you see when he tweeted in Netanyahu? I was like Jesus Christ. What did he say? Some horrific shit that I don't want to repeat okay, but he goes so hard he goes so hard He's an animal. Oh my god. Yeah, so funny. He's so fun You dude I've told this story many times about it. It's you about you and Kurt and I left it made me laugh so hard dude He was going off about something dude and you were just standing there quiet and you walked over and you just go Kurt I hesitate to even ask you the question because you knew you were gonna rip the I laugh so hard I go I go Rogan talks to people for four hours a day three times a week and Kurt's the guy that's he's like Kurt I don't even want to get you started right now like like you know how to talk Daddy buddy for lengths of time you know what I mean?

2:58:33I just wanted a simple. Yes So funny giant dude, so he's like looming over you with his crazy eye, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah He'll hit you with anything. Yeah, you'll be like I saw the new fast and furious you'll be like you know It's up with that though, right? You know the story I talked to no I was so sweaty coming off stages like I should have given him a minute He's just dripping sweat ranting. I'm like, take a minute breathe No, when you catch him off stage you get him at a nine. He's ready to go. He's warmed up. I've seen that man I'm not exaggerating roll and smoke a full joint to the head in The time it would take the average person to smoke half a cigarette like roll it Four hits down gone boom like just just just he's operating on a different plate Yeah, he's in another world.

2:59:28He's an adduck. There's he's another dude like you know Are he's an original find yourself another mezzo and probably like literally impossible? Yeah super informed super smart Yeah, insane. Yeah knows every fun and by the way didn't use to be like this with all the conspiracies Yeah, he started I mean he always knew stuff about things You don't have weird conversations about stuff like weird facts, but when he started working with Jimmy So he started doing Jimmy door show and so from then on He got exposed to so many things like crack them. Mm -hmm like he's like oh my god like it's all fake.

3:00:01Yeah everything's bullshit There's like multi levels of fakeness built into this. Yes Jimmy's an interesting guy because Jimmy was staunchly Left liberal. I don't know the terms people say they all mean different things, but he's an interesting guy because he certainly I guess moved Libertarian now or I just think he thinks that the left as it existed when he was a part of it Disappeared. Yes, it moved to a far left position that is unrecognizable and a lot of people have that same feeling that they felt politically homeless Yes, why it's time talked about that. I've talked about it. You feel politically homeless Because there's things you support on one side.

3:00:43You don't support on the other side like what do we do? What what is this like what why is this the part of it and you just get to the point We're like okay, I can't be on either one of your fucking teams because you guys are both at the far ends Completely insane. Yeah far ends of the left and the far ends of the right completely insane. Yeah, yeah It's it's an interesting thing. It's an interesting thing. It's it's I never One once ethics part of me once ethics became economized I Know there was I was like we got a real problem on our hands now like when people started Because I was living in L .A.

3:01:18At the time and when you started seeing like you'd be in a job interview Just to get a writing gig on the TV show whatever it was and you started to see how your social media played into it You started to see how your takes played into it. Hey, I saw you in a little weird dust up with this guy on the internet What was that all about you know what I mean? It's like ethics are being economized your your morality is being monetized and once people start to do that That that separation of church and livelihood is no longer there Yeah, and the politics becomes the deity or the dogma whatever you want to call it and you're it's just oh my god Man, it's it's not a good scene and I never thought you'd see the day where The the where the extremists are The loudest of the voices.

3:02:09I know a person works at a firm and They have to put their pronouns in every email they send you have to they have to It's comedy policy, but what comedy policy he him, but what if you say that's What if you say that's my business and I don't want to share that okay That's you have to put it in there because they want you to comply It's it's it's literally or wellian it's It's not it should be like super obvious it was obvious for all of time if your name was Debra McGee and you had long hair and you were a dress and you were obviously a woman right you were a she yeah And the fact that that is you don't want to assume someone's gender now you have to be careful I'm sorry.

3:03:04What are your pronouns? Well, kind of a stupid fucking nothing question is that well also to to me. It's like if you said to me Joe Uh If you bring up my pronouns you are to refer to me as a cat man. I would go. Okay, Joey like you're my buddy No, you're saying that like it's a joke. There was a woman in Oregon There was a woman in Oregon who wrecked she she identified as a turtle and she was a part of the mental health board Yeah, you know about this lady. No, I'm just I thought of two other So much I was talking about her pronouns and one of her pronouns was turtle. She was a turtle Yeah, there was I saw the the news clip of the there was an overweight Chinese middle -aged man who identified as a 12 year old white girl Oh nice So you can shower with them.

3:03:50It would not nothing creepy about that at all But my point is this is like if I said if you if you said that to me and I slipped and I said he and you go Joe, please cat man and I go I'm sorry buddy It's so not meant to insult you. It's just like all right dude whatever you want. It's fine But it's when it becomes a thing. I'm like it's like it is the worst crime you could ever come in against a human being and it's like You're demonizing me by using my dead name Can we just take a It's we're just can we just have a discussion. It's okay like you know there will be no discussions Compliance will be complete the total compliance will be required if you want to get your social credit score Do you know what's interesting I googled Bruce Jenner the other day This part is is not Bruce anymore.

3:04:48This is a Caitlin and Wikipedia Caitlin won the gold medal I googled Bruce Jenner because I was I was watching Is a rabbit hole I was watching Dennis Miller. I was watching an old Dennis Miller thing And he and he had a joke where he's like when the fuck did Bruce Jenner become the lady from the Beverly Hillbilly's because it was when Bruce Jenner like his face was starting to get pulled back and shit You didn't know what was going on and it was it just made me laugh and I looked up the lady and then I was like wait Yeah, what did he look like then I googled Bruce Jenner and I was like I wonder if there will be results for Bruce Jenner Or if it's going to say You're dead.

3:05:25No, yeah, and it did come up and everything but I was I was like too too popular Too famous as a man right one the gold medal was on top of the Wheaties box right too famous Like you can't erase that was on keeping up with the Kardashians as a male for who knows how many episodes But also to like I have I have trans friends It's like it I would never in out of respect to them say hey, I'm gonna bring up your old shit But to say we can't talk that Bruce Jenner existed That's when it becomes not so it's our well. Yeah, it's it's all cult stuff. That's what it is. Yeah sure People it it's another version of it.

3:06:09It's another undefined cult that is constantly moving the boundaries of what's acceptable The we're living in exhausting I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted with everything. I'm exhausted. It's funny when When Trump got shot, it was in my buddy sauce. We're in the pool hanging out and he had a TV out there I'm we take came on we were like holy shit Fucking wild, right? Yeah And there were people in the pool that were Trump supporters There were people in the pool that don't like Trump. There was all kinds of people there So so a discussion broke out. This was a massive event. It was very interesting and I said to my friend I go The we're living in insanity right now.

3:06:56This is insanity what we're living in it's too much I'm having a hard time swallowing it every day and he said Yeah, but every generation says that and is this any crazier than the 60s where I go Let me tell you why it's crazier than in the 60s because you can't even talk about star wars anymore Without it devolving into an argument about a trans global conspiracy of so you know what I mean? I'm like we don't even have the the escape conversations anymore right everything has an agenda Everything is tribalistic everything's against viruses fucking cartoons. You can't talk about anything anymore and it's like That's I'm exhausted.

3:07:35I find myself rewatching News radio Sick comes from the 90s things that just remind me of Jesus Christ man, so thank you for news radio Tell everybody about your specials bring this baby home. Thank you brother. It's called I never promised you a Rose Garden It's on my YouTube Never promised you a Rose Garden It's on my YouTube, which is at Joe to Rose a comedy Please watch it. It's off to an amazing start. Thank you to everybody. I Roted I performed it. I directed it. It's where'd you perform? There's a this theater is the is the colonial theater in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania near where I have a house in Pennsylvania It's where I'm from and that theater is the theater of the original blob was shot at and they run out of the theater That's the theater.

3:08:30Yeah, so blob. Yeah, so that's awesome dude This is the hardest I've ever worked ever on anything in my life I'm the most proud of it of anything I've ever done and and it's Thank you to the comedy community. Thank you to the mother ship Thank you to all the clubs everybody that everybody has been so supportive. It's been beautiful Really appreciate you having me do my pleasure brother. I was talking to you. Yeah, this was fun Good to have a little sit down one -on -one time. Yeah, man. It's nice. It's nice. All right. It was beautiful It's available Anything else tour dates Joe to rosa .com Tour dates Joe to rosa .com I'll be in Rhode Island next in August and then I do it in Rhode Island comedy connection Oh, I love that place.

3:09:16Yeah, Bank. Yeah first and second and then I got You know other dates throughout the fall Joe to rosa .com and and If you're in New York, go get a sandwich. Joey roses. Appreciate you guys. Bye everybody You