#2365 - Rep. Anna Paulina Luna

26:11No one should secretly keep information that would change our entire perspective on our existence. It's definitely wrong that it's happening, for sure. What I will tell you though is the issue that we have with bringing forward legislation that would give mass amnesty imparting to these people is that there are people within and the intelligence community and within Congress on both sides that will try to, if you come forward with us and I'll tell you a very prime example of this in a moment, that they will block it, they don't want it to pass, they will stop it from even coming to the floor, they won't bring legislation that will dress it because they want to keep this information secret.

26:50So, Representative Tim Birch at before. But why do they want to keep the information secret? Because I think that their mouthpiece is in control of the deep state and that's a thing and it exists on both sides, okay? So someone will come to them with marching point marching orders 100 % representative Tim Berchett before I got elected was kind of on his Own little islands in regards to the UAP stuff and he will himself tell you that you know, this is a hundred percent Like a thing and that these defense contractors and what he believes you know The Pentagon not passing all this. He's black budget programs.

27:21I mean like he will tell you he's again been leading out the suffer way before I got there. He had a piece of legislation that was supposed to enable the FAA to report and develop a different reporting procedure for UAP stuff. And at the time, the chairman of Intel ensured that that legislation was not brought forward, that it was stopped. The piece of legislation that actually passed out of the Senate really had no teeth to it. And then, Ruppers on the Dupurchett drew a primary challenger that was being backed by the chairman of Intel. And so, you know, when you are touching these, it's like, you know that meme where you have that stork that's like, don't touch this and then the little foot comes out.

27:59Yeah. It's kind of like what we're doing and it's not exactly easy because you will take heat from both sides. But there has been a good group that's been assembled, that's by camera, meaning it's both in the house and the Senate. And by partisan, meaning both Democrats and Republicans are saying like, hey, this should actually happen. Are they publicly talking about not releasing the information or is all this stuff done in secrecy? It's done behind the scenes because if they had to do it publicly if they had to announce their position on it publicly It would be very Damaging I think that anybody's political career on the right or the left people would be pissed Well, they're pissed because I'm pissed because if If they've had it for this long I mean if they really did recover something is early is 1947 excuse me Well, I can tell you, for us specifically, we actually were made aware some people had come forward that said that they wanted to brief.

28:55So about two years ago when all this kicked off, we had requested briefings from Arrow that's in charge of kind of compiling the investigative aspect of the AP stuff. And by the way, from the get go, even talking to Arrow is like this organization is literally a BS organization. They're never going to tell us anything. And every interaction that we had in the skiff, I was like, this is nothing burger. But then these people came forward and said that they were actually denied. They were told to not brief our group specifically on this topic and that it was from at the time members of House leadership, but they wouldn't say who.

29:26And so I actually went with another member of Congress and confronted multiple people and they all denied denying us access. So it's done behind the scenes. You'll see these random little troll blockages that might pop up. But what I can tell you is that with the new administration, specifically with FBI, specifically with ODNI, we have gotten transparency to where previously we would have been stonewalled. We are actually given briefings. And so what I will tell you is we are going to push for the information that we sought to be out there for the American people to see. So do you think that the whole idea of disclosure is maybe a multiple step, very agonizing, frustratingly slow process rather than a big dump of all the information that they've had from Roswell to the Aztec one.

30:15Apparently there's a whole slew, I don't know if it's Aztec, I forget the name of it. But there was another, during that same time period, there was a really prominent UFO recovery thing that was not as publicized as the one in Roswell. The big mistake with the Roswell one was the newspaper printed it. So then they had to backtrack and then they had to do the press conference where they had like some scattered pieces of a weather balloon and they didn't look anything like a UFO. And then they said, they're forced to let down. There's nothing. But meanwhile, they flew the wreckage to right field.

30:49They flew the wreckage in Truman, met them there, supposedly. Well, I can tell you in our hearing, we are actually notified and you can pull this up. I think it was, one of the witnesses had talked about what had happened at Vandabirk Air Base, where there was this thing that appeared over the base. It actually had multiple blotters reporting on it from phone calls into law enforcement, from like hundreds of people, and whatever had appeared over the base was basically bigger than a football field and basically a cube, a red cube with some weird thing in the center of it. I actually had our witness draw this out.

31:21This guy is sober as a priest. I mean, it was a great pilot and he's talking about all this. And so, you know, you talk about this, it seems like a sci -fi movie. But based on the evidence that we've seen, I don't have any reason to believe that these people are lying. Based on the evidence that I've seen from our own government, I think that there's something there that the American people deserve to have access to. And so I've been, this is not just on this topic, but again, in other topics as well, this has been my perspective is transparency is what builds trust. Other governments have revealed some information on it to think that we are the only, you know, life form on this planner in this galaxy, I think is a little bit crazy, given, you know, the fact that I also think God exists and that there's other creations.

32:01But then again, you get into this aspect of, you know, why is it that you also have this aspect of a certain religion that has been very controlled and I think rolled out in a certain aspect. And when you have certain books that are removed because they don't think that people should have access to this information or know it, why remove a book from a Bible? Was Did Wes Huff, did he touch on that? Did he talk about that? Are there people that don't believe the book of Enoch was really a part of the Bible? I don't remember how you discussed the missing books. He used to. I think we brought it up, but I don't remember how.

32:38That's the guy to talk to. Yeah, so what from my guy then? That's a guy to talk to about, you know what I mean? Because you have to really understand the history of the Bible to be able to figure out what's legitimate, what's not, why they put it into the New Testament. I had some very erroneous ideas about it until I talked to intelligent people that really know the history of it. And it's very strange stuff. Well, so from what I gather, and by the way, I'm not a theologian in any capacity, but just from my personal opinion on this. So, you have the Ethiopian Orthodox text, which has, I think, 88 books of the Bible in total, but in the Ethiopian Orthodox text, it's basically kind of like a mainline OG version of the Bible.

33:18and then sometime in the fourth century, there was actually a group that came together and they removed certain books. And the story goes that revelations actually had replaced Enoch. And so it's interesting because when you're looking kind of full circle on, you hear the stuff that some of these people are talking about, and then you see and you read the book of Enoch, which is a wild read, okay? And then you look at kind of what our modern day description is of what angels and entities are versus what Enoch was seeing and reporting in his language and ability at that time. I just, I think that there's a lot that brings you to then ask the question, well, why would they remove this information?

33:56If it's truly written in part of the oldest Bible in the world, why would they then take it out and water it down? And I'm not saying that you can't find God through the new Bible, right? Like everyone's on their own spiritual journey, and I think everyone can pray and you can ask us God. But I just find that very interesting. And so what I will say is that I like to have the whole kind of picture in front of me. And so I feel like to fully understand A through Z, you kind of have to be able to read it. This is an ad for better help. The internet is a breeding ground for misinformation. Even a simple search for ways to get rid of a headache can produce millions and millions of results from taking pain relievers to detoxes, to medication to cold compresses.

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36:02The book would be not? Yeah. Yeah, like why did they room because I know there was some kind of controversy that Wes Huff described. I just can't remember it. Yeah, I don't why just look through a transcript real quick. I didn't see you guys discussing you know, we're discussing Isaiah and then the Dead Sea Scrolls and stuff like that. I didn't see enough discussion. No, it must have been me privately talking to him about something that another video that I watched. That the thing about like what Wes Huff does that's so interesting is like he he he really really understands like the history of the text, the language in which they use the names in which they chose.

36:38And when he breaks it out, one of the things he told us that was the craziest was that the book of Isaiah was exactly the same the deads he scrolls as it was a thousand years later. The fact that one there was a thousand years older and it was direct, it was word for word verbatim. I'm like that's bananas, a thousand year old story that's exactly the same written that they didn't know there was a version of it a thousand years ago and then they find it in these case and crime. It's not it's really weird. I mean that's really really weird stuff. And the fact that I this kid you know a shepherd kid was able to even find these scrolls that they were set up and you know just as led to that point right in time where he finds this massive basically in mission that the Bible is real.

37:21You can actually look into you know there's a new King James and then you can actually look into the Catholic Bible as well that also has, they call them apocrypha texts because the King Sheam Spible does a new knowledge on, but there are also other books that are not considered, you know, approved by the King Sheam. So, look, I was on my mom's side. I was actually raised Catholic and then had my Catechism did all of it and then on my dad's side, I was raised Christian and then later on Messianic Jew. And so I feel like I kind of have like a good cross -section and I've been exposed to a lot of this growing up.

37:52But it's definitely interesting. And so, look, I don't tell people, like I'm not saying that like aliens created mankind. I don't believe that because at the end of the day, I believe that God is responsible for our creation. But I do think that what we've been programmed to believe in regards to our ability to be able to use our mind, the spiritual aspect of us really does exist. And I think that once you kind of remove yourself out of this basically rat race, and you can like really reconnect with that, I think that that's when you kind of realize, hey, there's a bigger purpose here in life.

38:23And like what is our end objective? and if you're given a position of influence or position of power and you're not doing the right thing for you many you're not guiding people then that's something that you have to answer for so I want to make sure that I'm good with God. I hear you. That's a lot. I think these stories, especially when you get to stories like No One The Arc and that these stories exist and basically every religion, the real similar, the real similar. I think all of these people are trying to document a truth. It's just what is that truth is what, where it gets weird and when it gets to like other gods and giants and giants created man.

39:00Well, Enoch talks about that. Yeah, I know. Which is crazy. I know, it's wild stuff. It's if it's legitimate, it's wild stuff. And then do you know anything about the Ethiopian church that supposedly has the arc of the covenant in it? Yeah, I've looked into that. I actually wanted to, and again, you're in the government, you can like get something done. Yeah, so I actually wanted to do a co -del to just, but of course, like we're focusing on other things, right? Send me seals, find that fucker. I was like, I need to pay for this for myself, so we're not using taxpayer dollars, but just go check it out.

39:29What's interesting is the CIA allegedly located the arc of the covenant. I think the remote viewed. They remote viewed it. You can actually find that. You should actually fold up. No, not Nithia Pippa, but it was in a Middle Eastern country. They weren't able to locate the actual, I think the New York Post did article on it where they actually had the handwritten notes on the arc of the covenant location. And they remote viewed it. You should ask them before that. Yeah, I'm serious about it. Did they go there and see if they were correct? I don't know, this is like Indiana Jones. What? Decades all CIA documents on arc of the covenant resurface to mid classified group text, Pat.

40:00What? Wait, like, yeah. Who's in group text? Arguing with the cause, this stuff to be really useful. No, check out, pull up the New York Post one because they actually have the handwritten notes from the remote view or they actually documents it. OK. It should be, I think it's like the New York Post. That's so funny. There we go. Poplin. This is wild because it actually goes into descriptions of angels too. And so actually, if, so an enoc it talks about, well, if you scroll down, now that's that you can probably click on the scribe because it'll show you all the documents from the actual declassified file.

40:34This is also on CAA .gov. What year was this? This happened recently. This was like a couple of months ago that this just kind of came all out. Right, but what year was this project? In the summer. 1988. 5 December 1988. Wow. So scroll down. So when 88, they found the arc of the coming. Allegedly, they were remote view. Don't know if they followed up on it. Who's president back then? Reagan. Go down. Bush. Senior. OK, so scroll down. And then you'll see that. So this is like, they're going through in the notes. You have to read it. But you can scroll down. So this is like drawing where it is. The remote viewer.

41:07So you have the different things that are describing it. And if you keep going, you'll see like a cherubum keep going. It's like showing the peak of the building. Sorry, go up a little bit. So that's interesting because if you look into actual, so there's like a wheel text, um, if you look into Enoch's description of angels and it is equal to, I think that's kind of a tie. But go down more. So but yeah, you have like the actual here, purpose of container, they should have like a cherubin drawing somewhere down here. Oh, yeah, I see it. So that would be the serifim. Um, so it's interesting. Where's that be the what?

41:37this Sarah Sarah film it how it's opened yeah, so basically when they they describe the arc and so he's going through Describing so these are the hand notes for and then it actually says that it's in the Middle Eastern country the remote viewer describes The clothing in which individuals are in the area. I feel like I'm describing like an Indiana Jones movie But this is actually from the CIA this this image Scroll back to where that what is that thing is that the corner of the box of the covenant? Yeah, he's describing if you go up and these are actually the handwritten notes on what was described by their remote viewer and you have to go through the entire document, but yeah, that's what's described surrounding the arc.

42:12Do you know what they asked him to find? Well, yeah, the arc of the covenant. You can find them to go look for the argument. Yeah, it's in, if you go higher up in the documents, it's over there. But if you ask me to go look for the arc of the covenant, like, I know what I'm looking for, right? Well, apparently these are my viewers. And I draw all the way to, I think it's gonna, like, show me that they fucking found it. I don't know if they did, but they've been trying to find it. I don't know if they did either, but it's like it's interesting, but it's not as interesting because you're saying show me the arc of the covenant, right?

42:41So he's drawing what we all saw in Indiana Jones. Or can you locate it? So the description was that. That was before Indiana Jones? No, they've been under the same time period. When did Indiana Jones come out? What a great idea. The 90s, right? I don't know. I'm thinking. And like the first two are the best. The New Orleans. The greatest of the lost arc was the first one. That's the one. What year was that? 1981. Okay. So. Precursor so that's seven years earlier everybody saw that movie a hundred times you know what it looks like You know what the art looks like so if I tell you go draw me the arc.

43:15Where's it at you think all we have is some scribbles on paper Unless they actually went there and found it. Well, what's interesting? And I I should probably ask Radcliffe like Radcliffe. Can you tell me this? I never really get the arc of the government. What he's saying Jamie? It's as the mission is to access and describe the target identified by coordinate and then there's coordinates the tasking is to see mission statement training target is the arc of the covenant. So they did say go find us the arc of the covenant. And then this dude apparently said it will keep AOL to a minimum. What is that?

43:47Oh no, I saw that on the paper earlier. I have to be careful with editing though. This does not seem to be a problem at this time. Just something to watch for. Attained excellent site contact. Okay. Definitely interesting. Well, it's weird that they're talking about it like it's a real talent like someone can actually do it It's like mox, mox domes. Yeah, target is in a container. This container is in another container It has another container inside of it the target is fashioned of wood gold and silver the target is similar in shape to AOL So that's that something the of location, right? Is that what it means?

44:22Error low. Yeah, that's it uh... coffin and is decorated with the seraphim c sketch this target is located somewhere in the middle east as the language spoke by individuals present seem to be arabic well what you want someone who could fucking decipher arabic to do this we don't know how far one and i definitely have questions but this is would not be the first time that a government would have looked for something especially because people theorize that the arc of the covenant had these abilities as a super weapon I know, but I'm saying like the remote viewer is limited by his ability to understand the language stop stop scroll back up Please there right there.

45:00So it's somewhere in the Middle East visuals of surrounding buildings indicated that the area that the presence of mosque domes Individuals in the area were clothed in virtually all white had black hair and dark eyes one figure I honed it on war a mustache The target is hidden underground dark and wet were all aspects of the location of the target See, the only problem I over have with these things is if these places are all controlled by terrorists and solved, you know, dictators and crazy people over there, if they found out that the ark was there, they would fucking take it. Well, I think there's this aspect of if you look at from a biblical perspective, no one would be able to access it anyways because it would be protected, right?

45:43That's what the Bible says. Two pieces here too. Cannot be opened until the time is deemed correct. Oh Jesus. Once the time to open the container, the mechanisms of lock systems will be found to be fairly simple. Individuals opening the container by prying or striking are destroyed by the container's protectors. Well, it's interesting, as remember, in the Bible, it always talks about how they're ahead of you. Through the use of power unknown to us. They melt you, remember? Yeah. Well, so they had to go through this special process of being considered wholly, basically, access. So all that to say that there's something out there, right?

46:22I think that obviously God's real and this job has definitely, you know, put me in a position to where we're able to help get other truths out there, if you will. And you need to get the truth of that thing out there. They need to find out like that. You know how much the world would change if you found the actual Ark of the Covenant and you could explain a lot of things like, look, if these Ethiopians have it, which Graham Hancock believes. Allegedly they do. Yeah, Graham Hancock believes that they do. And he said that these guardians, they all get cataracts and they die of like radiation poisoning.

46:58I mean, there's something to be said about the Ethiopian people as a whole and going back to the Ethiopian Orthodox text. Actually, when I first launched this task course, actually went and I met with a Ethiopian Orthodox pastor, if you will, just to kind of see, explain and ask questions that I can exactly go to, you know, the Smithsonian and ask. And his response was interesting, especially from their perspective. You have a lot of this aspect of, I think, religion that tries to be doom and gloom. And then in the Ethiopian perspective, he's like, first of all, your timeline's wrong. And I'm like, what do you mean your timeline?

47:31It's like, well, the biblical text in modern day Christianity, it's a little bit off, right? So we use it completely separate. I think it's a 364 days out of the year. And he's explaining all that. And he's like, but even then, so we don't have the perspective of, You know, we are in the end of days, et cetera. But you know, the way his perspective just seemed very optimistic as opposed to pessimistic and filtering and controlling information. All that's the same. He's probably not online. He's off X. He's off X. He's off Tick Tark. Yeah, he's not subjecting himself. And the weird post thing about that says that the viewer was identified with a target and didn't know what it was and then he's being the arc of the covenant after all the explanation they found.

48:14Oh, well that's much different. Yeah, so that whole thing at the end of it was what they were saying it was when they wrote it on that report. It's just a bunch of words they're putting together and not hearing how put off talk about it. That's way more interesting. If he did know what he was looking for and he found something that looked like the arc of the covenant, that's pretty crazy. They kind of like talk them on right though, like give them something and say like walk us through. I'm just doing devil's advocate because I have no skin in the game. I don't know if it's real or not real. I'm open to it.

48:45I think there's something going on. I think there's more going on with people than we let on. There's some some extra thing that's happening with human beings the way we're all connected to each other that we don't really totally understand and I think the idea that you can access information that's not local. I don't think that's that weird. I think that might be an emerging aspect of human consciousness or an aspect of human consciousness that's atrophied? Or just an aspect of spirituality that we've previously forgotten because we're in such a digital age that kind of programs you into the rat race.

49:19And I think people, the more that they're kind of like, you know, there has to be more to life than just like a nine to five. And you know, working for this aspect of materialism, like don't get me wrong, I like, you know, a nice car and a clean house and all that. But, you know, there's also this aspect of, you know, being a human and like, you know, if you have kids, I think that's like one of the things like, like you have a daughter, I have a son and it's like when you're a parent, it kind of like makes you realize, wow, there's this aspect of love that I didn't know existed before and you can kind of really be there and help grow this next human and influence that person and it just kind of, the human experience is something that you can make it as special as you want and this aspect of us being able to have those little quantum bread crumbs is what I like to call them.

50:01Like have you ever been like talking about something and like you'll go somewhere, hear something and there's like confirmation of what you've been talking about or you know something happens and you're like you know asking a question and all of a sudden it pops up kind of there's an answer and I think that those little things just when you're on the right path and doing what you're supposed to do in this bigger picture. Yeah well that's a good way to live life if you believe that it's healthy smart it's like a good strategy. I wonder like why some people seem to have like the idea of if it being an emerging aspect of human consciousness, our ability to sense things and know things that are gonna happen or our ability.

50:39Premonition. Or know someone's a liar or a weirdo, like instantly, those, I always wonder, is it that or is it that we used to have that like before language, that's all we had? I think that before tech really evolved, there was a bigger aspect of spirituality that actually talks about that. So like discernment in the Bible, you can talk about this aspect of being a, people say like, oh, if someone has like really bad energy, you picking up on it, there's something to that. But I think that because, and it's really happened, I think in the last like 40 years, where people are kind of forgetting that.

51:17But when you actually go back to like, for example, we're talking just now about the arc of the covenant that if you open orthodox texts and all this, there's more of that aspect of spirituality that I think has been removed from society. I think it's actually taken away our ability to really respect one another and value human life. And I think that that, you know, from like a political perspective, influences decision, like you get really pro -war people. Those people are usually not that spiritual, and they really don't have a value for life in that aspect. Yeah, no, that's definitely a real thing.

51:47That's unfortunate. There's a... And the fact that those are the type of people that always want to be in power. They are, they're the worst type. That's probably the scariest part of it. I actually had a really groundbreaking conversation. So the way I'll describe Congress is, you ever have a job where 80 % of it, 90 % of it, is just really eating shit. And then the 10 % is really cool. And it makes up for that 80%, 90%. That's when I hosted Fear Factor. Okay, so that aspect of, I think, really exists in politics if you're actually here. And I had a meeting recently where I was with two other members of Congress that were helping me with the JFK investigation.

52:32And we actually met for the first time since 1990 with the ambassador to the Russian government. And I bring that up because at the time of the JFK assassination, the KGB had actually come forward with their own independent investigation. And they actually gave it at Kennedy's funeral to US officials. We never got those documents and it's my belief that the CIA actually destroyed that information and evidence because it would have confirmed what this the KGB. And mind you at the time, JFK was actually in talks with the president of Russia at that time and his perspective is that he actually wanted to do a joint mission between the US government and the Russian government to the moon.

53:08And there are aspects and divisions within the intelligence community. You obviously saw the Cold War was happening. They wanted war on Cuba. They wanted war with Russia. So for them to be able to say that Kennedy, who was not a communist, but that he was a communist sympathizer and how dare he talk to these dirty communists, I mean that in itself would have given them any ammunition to turn a blind eye or at least not fully figure out who assassinated Kennedy. But I bring that up to say that when you have these people in power, you can see a lot of it in regards to, there's a summit on the 15th actually with President Trump and Vladimir Putin.

53:40And I think the aspect of, you know, anytime you have peace and trade, it's way better than war for everyone involved for the people you created for Russia, for the American people. And I think for the surrounding regions, like I recently got back from meeting with government officials in Romanian Moldova. And it didn't matter if, and I actually met an actual member of the Moldova government who was a communist, like an outward communist. And it didn't matter who I talked to, everyone wanted peace. And then when we had met with the European Parliament and the EU, some of them wanted peace, but then the countries that had the shittiest economies, excuse my language, they were the ones that were advocating for war.

54:17Well, you have a war -based economy. It always helps your economy. So if you have terrible policy perspectives, obviously you would advocate for something like that. But it just goes to show that the people that are going through it, the people that are living it, that are directly impacted it, no one would advocate for war. And so in even just having this conversation, you know, a lot of people, even, you know, two administration ago, maybe two administrations ago, probably would not have had that conversation, but to be able to develop that dialogue, the end result of that meeting was the Russian government agreed to release their investigation onto JFK that the previous congressional task force in the 90s had tried to obtain from the Russian government and they said no, so they agreed to release that and they'll be posting it publicly for the American people to go through later on this fall.

55:01Have you seen it yet? I haven't. So I'll be seeing at the same time everyone else. What do you think is in there if you had a guess? So when I was talking to the ambassador, he's actually a history buff too. And so he had actually said that the Russian government when Oswald was actually in Russia had done a psychological profile because they thought they're like, is this guy? Part of American intelligence, like what's his story? And they thought he was basically nuts. And apparently he had tried to go hunting when he was out there and they were observing him and he couldn't shoot for shit. So they're like, you know, he didn't our psychological profile, then then he shows up to the Russian embassy in Mexico City with a gun and they're like, what the hell is it like crazy guys showing up at that like what's going on?

55:43And then we find out simultaneously as this is all happening that the CIA kudos to director Radcliffe had actually released something called the Joe Nidis file and George Joe Nidis was actually he's basically our version of James Bond but more corrupt and he was basically observing Oswald. he had lied to Congress. This was on his file. He was then the CIA liaison to Congress during the investigations. Stonewall, their investigations was later awarded something from the CIA. So we have the CIA admitting that they lied to Congress covered up the assassination attempt or covered up the investigations.

56:18We had admissions from the Warren Commission. People that had been subject to the Warren Commission's investigation saying that the Warren Commission engaged in a witness intimidation. They omitted evidence. The single bullet theory never exists. The CIA admits that Lee Harvey Oswald was not alone gunman. People ask, well, you know, does this mean that you'll ever get the name of who killed him? No, because I don't think the CIA was like kill JFK on this day and use this gun and have this person assigned. But there was evidence of multiple shooters for sure. Well, there had to be multiple shooters.

56:48There's there's injuries like one of them was the front of his neck. We had testimony to that. Yeah. And actually, what's interesting is when we first launched the task We had left -leaning news outlets that were trying to write hit pieces saying that I was basically launching a conspiracy theory task force. And they had to print the truth weeks ago. You can actually talk about it. What is it about people that don't want to believe that some conspiracies are real? Is it a comfort thing? Is it you think you're going to erode trust in the government? is that you just have such a rigid world view.

57:23And in your mind that there's always been Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, that's what happened. And because of that, anything that challenges your belief system, you fight against. Well, specifically to JFK for decades, the intelligence agencies were influencing what the print and press was doing. 100%. And share with Ravira. When Dick Gregory brought that film on the Ravira show, and you got to see this a pruder film, You got to see what looks like a shot that makes his head go back into the left. Yeah, and the direction. Which we're indicating got shot from the front. I think you got shot multiple times by multiple shooters from multiple different directions.

58:01And I don't think necessarily Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't in on it. Well. Here's the problem. People say, oh, Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't shoot. You don't have to be that good with a rifle to be, you're on a ledge. So you have a secure rest. if your rifle sighted in and they said his scope was off, but that doesn't mean shit, because you could just drop your scope and it's off. Like all you have to do is take your rifle off of that ledge, drop it on the ground and now that scope is off. You never drop your gun like that. And if you do, you can knock your scope off. Well, there's multiple problems though, because the Warren commission actually never even put into the report, right?

58:36So like if you're conducting, but let me finish, let me finish. My point is that wasn't a far shot. It was like, what was it? 140 yards from the book depository with a scope. Yeah, I mean, it should have been taken. And a rifle with a rest. No, you could kill a guy like that. And he could have been the shooter. He could have been one of the shooters. But I think there's too much witness testimony. There's too much evidence. There's too, the whole idea of the magic bullet there was just because they had to account for all the wounds in the bodies with just three bullets. And they found a guy who got hit in the overpass in the underpass rather.

59:10He got hit with the ricochet. Yeah. So now they knew that bullet couldn't have hit Kennedy or Connolly. So how do you attribute all these wounds to two different guys from multiple gunshots to a single bullet? It's a magic bullet, don't you know? You have to find this bullet that fucking for sure didn't hit any bones. And there's more fragments and Connolly's wrist than they were missing from the bullet. The bullet looks almost pristine. It looks like they shot it through feathers or they shot it into water, which is what they do when they do ballistics tests on rifles. Well, it's interesting is is the Warren commission did omit multiple female witnesses who are actually at the book depository that day that actually stated that they had never Witness Oswald actually in the location or going down the back of the book depository.

59:53So that's interesting. That's possible that he could have snuck past them. There was a lot of chaos. You hear gunshots the president shot people Don't always think straight when things are going nutty people have a terrible memory right after traumatic events. Yeah like yes and no like he might have been there or he might not have been there he might have shot a Kennedy or he might not have a Kennedy but for sure he was some sort of a government operative we we sure he was traveling back and forth from Russia he married a Russian citizen there was a lot of weird shit under surveillance by the CIA so there's a lot there however I will say this what the official narrative was we now know is BS right and that I thought from the beginning Yeah, but a lot of the American people did, but to have their own government say no, that's not true to gaslight them and to push this narrative of if you question it you're wrong, you're crazy.

1:00:45That in itself, I think when you're talking about like why do the American people not trust their government? It's really this fracture that starts around the Kennedy era and time frame and you can see then that distrust kind of evolves. But why do going back to your original question, why do people refuse to kind of question conspiracy theory maybe there's some substance to it? And I think it's because it's more comfortable for people from a psychological perspective to live in this comfort area that their government might not do something like that. Or might not try to cover up something like that because that's just an easy way of life.

1:01:12But look, it's too scary. It's too scary. But the fact is, is that look, I've traveled a lot, I've dealt with a lot of world leaders. We are still the greatest country in the world. Make no excuse about that. But it doesn't mean that we can't call out and hold our own government and officials accountable. And so that's kind of what I've guessed my mission has been this Congress and what I hope that it will continue to be. But I'm not trying to do this for like even the next 10 years. So for someone like me, you know, people are like, oh, initially you're going to ruin your political career talking about this.

1:01:41This is crazy. Why would you even want to do that? And then, you know, they're seeing all these big wins coming out in regards to transparency. And I will say, had it not been for the secretaries that have been appointed by this administration, This wouldn't have happened because in under President Biden, he actually also tried to declassify things pertaining to JFK and the National Archives never released it. And so in addition to... It's not a good sign. None of that stuff is a good sign. Like if you want trust from the American people, you release information. If you want us to distrust you, you hide everything.

1:02:13And you're hiding everything on one of the most important events in human history. They were up until recently. And we're still documents that the JFK community, because mind you, I'm actually working with... his name's Jefferson Morley. He is not a Republican. He's a Bernie Sanders Democrat. But on this issue, we're working great together. And he's actually been helping me. And he's like, look, I've been waiting for this for like 30 years. This is a hugely bipartisan. Yeah, it's super bipartisan. And so something we can all get to get. That in Europe, with the one thing that the Democrats are Republicans, both completely agree on.

1:02:44Like tell us what's up. Tell us what's up. Who killed them? And are they real? That's those are two giant questions that we all have. I think they're real. that other parties still at standing, but hopefully when the documents are released from the Russian government later on this fall, that might be able to provide a full picture. Granted, I'm gonna take it with a grain of salt, because it's still, you know, it was written by the KGB. But at the end of the day, we have a good mosaic that's been put together with at least the documents that have been released with this administration. And for any outstanding documents, actually have a team assigned to me from the CIA that is actually helping me chase down these documents.

1:03:16And I've already had some interesting experiences, like not creepy, but for example, after President Trump signed the executive order, and Radcliffe has been super helpful. We actually were made aware of this. Allegedly, there had been a document that was at the CIA that was a report from the Inspector General that had implicated the CIA allegedly in the assassination of JK. So I'm following up on this lead and trying to find this report. And the archives is like, we don't have any documentation of this. The CIA says they don't have any documentation, and they've been good with us so far. So I go to the archives because they're like, We found this weird bag though, and it's in the skiff, and it's been here for five years, and it was left by our former attorney for the archives, and so we don't know what's in it, and I was like, we'll go open it.

1:03:59They're like, well, we don't have the key, and it's in a vault, and I said, well, I'm coming over. So I drive over, literally, I put my stuff in the car. I get in the car, and I go over to the national archives. We go into the skiff, I pull this bag, and I'm like, does anyone have scissors? And we cut open this little folder, and there's a CD -ROM in it, and this is again Bindi classified now, so I can talk about it, But there was the CD -ROM of a ton of wires from the State Department. And some of the wires were pertaining to the Kennedy family. And it was actually a WikiLeaks document. And so I think the reason why it was kept at the archives is because you're not actually supposed to have these documents on government computers, WikiLeaks, actually.

1:04:35You can have them with that. But here I was like cutting it out of a bag. That's crazy to have. That makes sense that you would have the most top secret documents burned on CD -ROMs that that way no one could ever get access to it by hacking into your computer. To this day, I don't know even who left the CD -ROM. I don't know. And there are some other stuff in that that I don't need to get into, but - You don't need to get into it. I think it's not going to trouble. But the stuff that was on there was interesting. And I think I saw recently Tulsi had actually talked about some of the state department wires that had been found.

1:05:10And I think two are the same ones that had talked about the assassination of RFK. they were wires going up from the state to part prior to his assassination, which is interesting. So our next investigation, so we've done multiple years. What do you mean by that? Like how did they specifically discuss it? Well, I haven't seen the actual wires themselves yet, but what that would imply is that the state department knew about the assassination we took place. Oh, geez. So now something she talked about. Did you get into the MK Ultra stuff at all with Jolly West? So I look at that on my free time, but that's not the purview of the task force.

1:05:42But there is stuff that you can again see eye dot go of rissasher reading room super creepy I did find a document on the archives website that actually ties the initial phases of the mk ultra program To operation paper clip. Oh boy interesting and so that makes sense right? It is there. I'm I'm reading this to my husband Because for sure the Nazis were experimenting on drugs with people they're doing a lot of bad stuff Oh, they were doing a lot of horrible stuff But for sure they were experimenting on their soldiers and on the prisoners and they were experimenting on all kinds of people. Creepy stuff.

1:06:15Yeah, and if we took some of that and applied it, the Jack Ruby connection to it is that Jolly West went to visit Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. And Jack Ruby was like pretty rational before then. And then after Jolly West leaves, he's like freaking out, seeing things that aren't there. I think he said something about Jews, he could see Jews burning alive. Like a psychosis state. Full on, lost it, most likely got dose the fuck with acid. Most likely, Jolly West just hit him with a fucking. Sarah, that's a terrible way to go. Shot glass of acid. It doesn't, like he went so far off the deep end, then he died later, I think he died a few years later at cancer, but I think he completely lost his mind after Jolly West visited him.

1:07:05and jolly west was rude. He was involved with the Manson family thing. He was involved with Operation Midnight Climax where they had brothels. The CIA was running brothels and they would get these johns to come in with the prostitutes and the prostitutes would give them acid and they didn't know it. And so they were sitting there and there was two -way mirrors and they were filming them. Why these guys? Well, for black male, for observation, they knew these people were never gonna say, Hey, you did that to me. You know, look what the government did. Dosed me up with acid. Because they're not going to admit they went to a brothel.

1:07:41So you have like the perfect group of people to victimize and just try stuff on. Well, and they got in trouble for it too. Like the CIA had to do payouts. They were getting sued for it. And then when all of this did flush out, I mean, you know, it's always, I feel like I'm Well, the freedom of information to actually do, and then they found a bunch of documents. They found documents that were, I forget who found, I forgot, Tom O 'Neill who wrote but the book chaos goes into great detail about this. It's all about the Manson family and MKL tricks. It's a fantastic book. Well, even just this conversation right now, there's such a stigma that exists around it because it's such a spooky topic.

1:08:13Yes. And you don't want to look stupid. You don't want to look stupid. And so look, anyone watching this can go look at this information, go to CIA .gov slash reading room and know it's not gonna be a fishing website that's gonna steal your information. But you can find. Oh, for sure it is. For sure. For sure. But you know, it's always been one of those things and that you know if people ask me I'm just very transparent about it and I will say something that started out with a stigma of being you know This conspiracy theory investigation and wasting taxpayer dollars has been arguably one of the coolest task force in Congress I think and we have a lot of good people that are behind it and I think the tide is turning on that kind of thinking that these Conspiracy theories are silly to pursue like some of them.

1:08:55Yeah, some of them are crazy But some are crazy. But that doesn't mean that some are true. Also, there's a time -honored tactic of taking, look, if I was an intelligence community and I'm not accusing anybody of doing this, but if I was an intelligence community, and I had some truth that was very inconvenient to a narrative, and I wanted to label that truth as being a preposterous conspiracy theory, I'd add a bunch of kooky shit to it. Or have disinformation campaigns. or dole it out to the nuttiest people on the internet. Dole it out to the craziest people. You know this guy's got a drinking problem, and he's got a conspiracy theory website.

1:09:33Or take a little and spin it. Get him. Yeah. Get it to him and tell him you're helping him out. You're going to give him some insight in front. Get him to spread a bunch of cookie stuff so that when that stuff gets disproven, the other thing's attached to it. So the other thing looks stupid too. And that's what I would do. Yeah, we've had our fill. Like the one thing I wanted to do when I first got the task force is open up a skiff to any person who held a clearance to come brief us on what they knew about UAPs. And I can tell you that we've now had this gift. Those are the first conversation like when the door shots and you're like, oh boy, I'm Well, the problem is is I've reached out to some of the biggest names in UFO lore, okay?

1:10:08And they all got skiff flu. And we call it skiff flu meaning like the day that the skiff was open that we reserved it. We're like, we're here. Like come on, come brief us. They get sick or the dog dies. And they didn't recover and come back. They didn't recover and then they just don't talk just anymore. So it goes to you. They go, so if you're not going to tell me to skip, then you're full of crap. Or you're scared for your life because you're just a scientist. Maybe they got threatened. Maybe someone let them know that maybe someone hung something on their door in the middle of the night. But if people say they're going to go tell us in a skiff and then they don't show up, it's a problem.

1:10:40Right? But maybe those people don't feel like the government's going to protect them. That is one of the biggest things that we've had people bring up is that you're whistleblower, but whistleblower protections only go so far. And you can't do anything for my physical safety and some of them do alleged that there's these actual physical concerns. We actually had someone that we wanted to bring in to testify because our next hearing on UAP is going to be able to be next month. And the individual that was actually told test by David Grush is actually a former combat controller. And so my husband, Air Force Special Operator, combat control, so we knew the guy, VS, and friends.

1:11:15So we knew that the guy wasn't nuts or crazy. and we checked him and he did not want to come in. He wanted nothing to do with it, was like, I am not touching this. And so, you know, that stuff like that happens. Well, also, you put those folks on TV, right? Well, we don't have to, we can do private, but if we testify. But if it comes time, where they have to testify, and there's a lot of time in between people finding out this guy came and told you guys, what's up? To testify. Don't freak out our witnesses, Jeff. But that's the problem. No, it's gonna testify. What I was talking about is what's being advocated in the documentary that Demi makes perfect sense is mass amnesty.

1:11:49Now here's the bad part. For sure, you're dealing with enormous sums of money and I'm sure people got really rich off of that and I'm sure it's super illegal if it's real. What's the back engineering? Yeah. Potential. Yeah. I mean, and also the competitive advantage you would give company A. If this company gets access to a down craft that can traverse space and time, that can move through the universe instantaneously that utilizes an unknown element that has some unknown process of defying gravity. It's utilizing no interior mechanisms of control. Everything is done with the mind of the pilot.

1:12:30If this is the truth, if this is what they're saying, and these are the kind of things they find, that getting to a contractor would be a massive advantage over the other contractor that also should be on equal standing with the government. right? They both make jets, they both make whatever it is. So it's like, what do you do? Do you divvy up your spaceships in between these folks? Like, are they the only ones who get to know it? And then, how do private contractors, how are they the gatekeepers of the most important information in the world? If it's true. Well, so, and that brings us to what happened at Eglene Air Force Base.

1:13:05So, in a nutshell, we had been told by, so representative gates had come forward and said that he had two or three pilots said to contact him saying that the Air Force was covering up information regarding to UAP activity in the panel and he wanted us to go with him to investigate. So we show up at Eglene Air Force Base, we're met by the base commander, previous session even showing up on this congressional delegation to investigate the Pentagon had tried to cancel the meeting. And you can't, so this was under the last administration, so you can't just cancel the meeting and say you can't come to the base, that doesn't work.

1:13:37So Gates actually was on and house arm services at the time that oversees the US military. And so Gates got the chairman involved, calls back on to the Pentagon, gets this meeting on the books and we were told them specifically, we want to see information on UAPs, we want to see the evidence and we want to have the pilots that saw these aircraft, whatever they are, or these spacecraft, we want to have briefings from them. In a nutshell, we get to Egleneir Force Base, they keep B .S .S. are beesting us about the Chinese spy balloon. That's not what we were there to see. And ultimately we were in the skiff.

1:14:13We got into a verbal disagreement with the base commander at the time who is denying us access to the pilots and to the information and so that we didn't have the authorization. In the skiff there was many members of the intelligence community. We then go back upstairs to the conference room and proceed to again and basically have it out with this commander. And Representative Birchett said, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. You choose her. Oh, like a movie. Ooh. Kind of, but at the time, like people use a movie. Yeah, easy way or the hard way. And if it's a hard way, you're gonna have Representative Gates and Luna and DC questioning you.

1:14:49So I suggest you do the easy way. So he actually in the middle of the meeting, we were kind of holding his feet to the fire on it. He kind of got nervous as we were talking to him. And I kid you not, he goes, you know, they're gonna like that. I'm not gonna let you see this. So he kind of was like thinking out loud, but didn't realize that he was basically saying it. And then in the middle of our meeting, he gets up and leaves the room. Like I have to go to the restroom or something. And then maybe like five minutes later, this tech sergeant comes in and says, oh, the base commander's been authorized to go and leave to Georgia, he won't be coming back.

1:15:23And I'm sitting there looking at Gase and version. I'm like, he just left. Like in the middle of a congressional delegation, like that's never happened. So he said out loud, they would be happy that I'm not telling you. Yeah. Like verbally articulated at gates was there, my husband was there. But is it a virtue? It was there. It's just like if that guy's, he's in a powerless situation, right? If he does give you access, he's going to get in trouble. He's in, he might be really in trouble. You know, like, But here's a problem. He can't, even if it was someone at this, like the Secretary of Defense, right?

1:15:58because at the time this got pretty high level. I'm not saying it's not illegal. Yeah. He's still at the end of the day. You're in the military. How are government functions? Is the military does not decide what the civilian sector and what representatives can and cannot see? It's not supposed to function like that. So he got up and left. Like, I've never seen this happen. I was in the military. I've never seen like in the middle of a congressional delegation. These are big deals. You just get up and go and leave to Georgia and you just don't come back. like in the middle of the meeting and never have.

1:16:30What state were you in the time? We're in Florida. He just like, get up and like, drove to Georgia. Like, what the hell are you doing in Georgia? The middle of a congressional delegation. Go and fish it. See ya. And then his second and command comes in and they manage to get one pilot to come down and brief us. And what I will tell you is I will say it. Representative Gates has gone on record. He actually did as soon as he left office that we've seen stuff that I don't believe was created by mankind. Okay. So you can't tell us what you saw, but. I'm gonna let you infer. Infer. See, this is the problem that I have with all this stuff.

1:17:07I should be able to, I should be able to tell you without losing my clearance. Well, not just that, that people that have that information should give that information to the general public. Correct. Stop treating us like you're smarter than us and that you can handle it and we can't. That's silly. Which is why we have to declassify, which is why. You know the hell put off stuff? No. Also, okay, how put off during the Bush administration was assigned. He was one of many scientists, and this is also in the age of disclosure. He was one of many scientists that was assigned to put a numerical value to pros and cons of UFO disclosure.

1:17:40So they said to him, we have a crashed UFO that we have been back engineering, and we want to release information to society to let people know that UFOs are real and that there is something else out there that's not us. It's much more intelligent than we are. So they have this list of pros and cons, banking, religion, societal structure, you know, everything, everything on one side. And then the pros, like, you know, whatever the positive aspects of it would be. And every single scientist said that the cons outweighed the pros and he said I would have loved to have had disclosure. But this was just what they asked me to do.

1:18:24They asked me to compile numbers and to do it in a way that's super objective. And he said, if I'm doing my job, this is where I think it would completely wreck our government. Completely wreck any idea that the people that are in charge of us have any position of authority. When there's something that can go 100 million times faster than we think is physically possible through the universe, appear out of nowhere, stop all of our nuclear programs, shut down bases, do weird shit. But don't you think that that's where it's been interesting because society has moved away from this aspect of having a spiritual grounding and even believing?

1:19:04And most people today, I think when you talk about praying, even that whole concept is kind of just like, oh, they're just, and I feel like that thing's kind of a poohed, but if you have a grounding in that, and going back to what I was saying earlier, I think that that's not like I don't think that society would do that granted I'm not a scientist I'm not running numbers, but just based on how we've kind of been evolving with access to information and kind of the questions the discussions that have been happening not just here But I think internationally I just think a lot's changing now to say that we were you know And I've heard some wild theories like people think that you know humanity was seated by UFOs and I don't I don't agree with that theory I'm gonna address it because it's a fun one It's an interesting theory.

1:19:47If you found out it was true, would you tell everybody? I mean, I'd be transparent about it by just like, don't personally believe it. But would you believe it if you found out that was the information that the government had? Well, I put it out there because that's what that's supposed to be. Right, but what would that do for your belief system? That would suck. But what it's like really, maybe that's what's confusing about the Bible. Maybe what's confusing is that it was an oral tradition for hundreds of, not a thousand years before it was ever written down, right? Well, I think that it depends on what book you're talking about, right?

1:20:19So I mean, the Old Testament, if you go back to the oldest works of the Bible, weren't most of those stories handed down generation after generation, and then eventually written down? Right into text. Well, some of them are written by prophets, and then, but I mean, Enoch is apparently supposed to pre -date even the time of Genesis and talk. Well, the nuttiest one is Ezekiel. I'm telling you, Enoch is even crazier than his Ezekiel. Oh, I've read I just don't did you find anything about whether or not Enoch is controversial? You can look up look up the fourth century is it it was discluded as Well, I guess since the fifth century it wasn't in canon fifth century and why why did it get excluded?

1:20:57It says the Jewish scribes are the priest and believe Grabbi's didn't believe it was Canon Huh, so it's considered it's regarded as scripture But what's interesting is is that even if that's the case though, you have the Ethiopian Orthodox Church that actually there's Ethiopian Jews And that's considered the most pure form of the Bible So like you actually have a division of like the Ethiopian Jewish class that actually recognized Enoch How weird is it that some rabbis 500 years ago made a call But that's what I'm saying is like you can't you can't though just credit it because it's kind of weird But you can't just credit it because Because again, like when you have people removing books, I just, I think, look, and I'm not telling people what it would be.

1:21:40I'm just saying you should take a look at it. Oh, here it is. The main reason for the Jewish rejection of the book is that it's inconsistent with the teachings of the Torah. From the standpoint of rabbinic, rabbinic Judaism, sorry, the book is considered to be heretical. Another reason for the exclusion of the text might be the textual nature of several early sections of the book, the make use of material from the Torah. For example, Enoch is a mid -rash of Deuteronomy 33, the context, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels, would also be reason for rejection from the Hebrew canon at this period.

1:22:16As is illustrated by the comments of Tripfo, the Jew, when debating Justin Martyr on this subject, the utterances of God are holy, but your expositions are mere contrivances, contrivances, as is plain from what has been explained by you, nay, even blasphemous for you assert that angels sinned and revolted from God. So it was a, it seems like some people made a decision that something shouldn't be in there. Yeah, they, but that's the thing is it's a disagreement in religion and perspective, but they should have still not removed it. And so it's interesting because then you have, the evolution of what the King James Bible is.

1:22:58We all know that story. He wanted to get remarried. They rewrote it. But you even have the Catholic Bible that has, it's what happened. Right. You have the Catholic Bible that had books that were taken out. And then we have the King James. So I'm not saying that, you know, if you read the King James, you're not getting, you don't have access to God. That's all I'm saying. But I am saying that there's a bigger picture here that we need to discuss. Well, there's always a problem when people get involved. And when people get involved in making decisions that this could be real, and this could not be real.

1:23:24The problem is like all these years later you're dealing with the repercussions of that like imagine a world in which if Enoch was left in the Bible and people were like wait what happened? Like explain the nuttiness of the book of Enoch to people. Well, it's it's okay So if you read it it talks about the fall of angels Thus creating really the precursor of civilization that led to the first flood I think that when you even go into potentially the technology that was given to me and kind by these angels that talks about the hidden beliefs and theories in astronomy, et cetera, metal workings, all of it.

1:24:03But it really does explain, you know, you're talking about earlier, how you have a lot of these religions around the world that kind of say the same thing. This is kind of the OG text that leads to those stories that we're hearing from many religions around the world. To talk about angels mixing with mankind and then seeding a super -essentially -racif -humans that essentially were responsible for basically damning mankind to the flood. I mean you hear about stuff in Greek and Roman mythology, people who had these super crazy powers. And you talk about it out loud and it sounds crazy, but that's what the book says and then the fact that it was taken out and then it's Papu, yet you have one of the oldest religions in the world be at the Ethiopians that actually still have it.

1:24:47You have, you know, the Catholic church that has books that are missing out of the King James version. I'm just saying that, you know, when you read it, you should read it and decide for yourself, don't listen to what I'm saying, don't listen to what you're saying, but truly give it a chance and see what you have to say. And then, you know, you're going back to this whole concept of if you have this information pertaining to UAPs, whatever might, they might be the origins. I mean, if you have a understanding what Enoch was talking about kind of makes sense? Well, I go back to my thoughts on all this stuff.

1:25:15It's like very few people could even breed back then. Very few people could write, right? So you're not going to write. You're probably going to try to capture a truth. You're probably not writing necessarily to deceive people and make up a story. So the question is with all this stuff is what was the original truth that they were trying to write down and how much of it is getting distorted by translations from ancient Hebrew to Latin to English. Yeah, like how much of it and is it possible to even understand what they're saying without understanding the language? And my friend Rick Strossman, he's a very fascinating guy, but brilliant guy.

1:26:02One of the things that he did is he taught himself ancient Hebrew so he could read the Bible in ancient Hebrew. It took him 16 years. Wow. But he did it because like, I want to know it in that language. Direct, I mean, that's smart because there's always a aspect of translation where you lose certain implications. If you're playing the telephone game, you want to be second. You don't want to be 15th, right? And whoever was writing it down the earliest, that's probably your closer to their depictions of what that truth is than after King James starts fucking around with it. I want a new wife. I've got to remove some stuff.

1:26:36All these new people start getting involved. But boy, when you go to the really old stuff, you know, the really old stuff is very strange. The orthodont, I'm telling you, the Ethiopian orthodox Bible, I actually had a staffer that went to Ethiopia, she was on a church trip and she actually brought me back a copy and she's like, you can translate it via Google translation, so kudos to modern day technology. So I have it in my office. And actually when I did my swearing in, I actually did my swearing in on the Ethiopian orthodox Bible. Wow. That's cool. It's direct translation. That's kind of crazy.

1:27:09I would wonder what the impact to all these religions would be if we had definitive proof that we're not alone. If there was an introduction, like some sort of an event where they decided, look, this government is too secretive with all this information. and you're holding back the understanding of these intelligent life forms that they are not the apex of this planet. Not nor are they anywhere close to the peak of the intelligence that's available out there in the universe. Just let me show you real quick and then what does everybody do now? Like what happens to the Mormons? Like what's the...

1:27:49I think that brings us... Everybody's gonna fucking blow a gasket. Well I think that brings us back to square one. So by the way, I know by no means saying that aliens are gone. That's all I'm saying. No, no, no. But I think that brings us back to the fundamental question on, do you believe that God exists? Because if you do, then you realize that our freedom, you know, the freedom of choice is not a man given right, but a God given right. And I think that that goes back to the fundamental principles of like what we believe in true representation. So if you believe that God is real, God is powerful, then it shouldn't be a king or a man that you're looking to, but to God for divine inspiration and to make your life decisions.

1:28:26that's ultimately what freedom of choice is. But I think even the Catholic Church has acknowledged the idea that if there is intelligent life somewhere else, it doesn't mean that God didn't create it. Well, that's true. Maybe God just didn't tell you about the neighbors. Well, it does say an enoc and then also too, I think in Genesis, that the stars cried out. And so if you're looking, well, a star, if it's not, what do they mean by stars crying out? And then enoc actually alludes to stars in certain capacities being potentially angels. Now, I'm not saying like, and this is kind of interesting because, you know, I've had this aspect of my task force, what we've been investigating, but then I have, you know, my personal beliefs and, you know, my religious beliefs.

1:29:04And what I'm telling you is that in my position, officially, I've seen men perver information to get what they want. So it's not unlikely that an entire, you know, very secret, very truthful text was omitted in an effort to control population and to insert yourself between individuals relationship between them directly in God. And I think that, you know - Especially if it doesn't agree with your interpretation of God. I mean, the issue with these rabbis, right? Well, I mean, if you're having people determine any information, yes, you should not be able to do that. Just the same things that you have post -off.

1:29:38Do you have post -off? No one should be the gatekeeper of information. Exactly. And hence the transparency on the information. Especially something that's it should be for all of us. This is nuts. I think we're probably gonna be responsible for like the book of Enoch Sales probably increasing on Amazon. Well, I'm gonna buy it. I'm gonna buy it. I need to read it now. You'll trip out. I think, well I wish I could, I mean I'm sure there's some interpretations of the Dead Sea Scrolls that I could sludge through. But the thing about it is I could really love to be able to read it in Aramaic. I really wish I could read Arama, I just don't know the fucking time.

1:30:12But if I did, Gone you should see if there's like a audible so I don't sure there is but what I'm saying is I really like the Strassman idea of learning ancient Hebrew to be able to read the source material that so that is that's where it gets really interesting Because like what would these people trying to write about and if these people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson are correct and these folks that believe in the younger dry Same -pack theory You know the Bible was written a couple thousand years ago these people that that, or talking about the Younger Drys Impact Theory, or talking about a cataclysmic event that wiped out advanced civilization 11 ,800 years ago.

1:30:51Well, Plato talks about it here from Egyptian teachers and then going back to the 19th civilization and it was a great performance. What was their Bible? You know what I mean? Like if you can get back to 11 ,800 years ago and read what they thought went down, because I think that's probably where the oral traditions come from. The oral traditions come from complete collapse of society, rebuild over time, takes forever, and then a re -understanding of what you know to be true about the origin of man and the birth of the universe and why we're here. And then you got to figure out what Jesus is. Well, so actually when I was in my early 20s, I actually went to Egypt to see the megalithic structures there and then I went to Turkey to see the Sumerian inscriptions and carvings on what they thought the ancient Sumerian gods were, the Anunnaki, all of that.

1:31:45What's interesting is an Inaka actually has reference to the Anunnaki, but a different, I think it's like I knew it was like the term, the root term that's used for it. So, if you read the Zechariah's Hitch and stuff, no. Do you know of it? I have heard of it, yeah. Yeah, that's the most fun. Yeah, well I will say with all of that going back to if you read Inaka and then follow about the fall of mankind and the angels with, you know, and this is Christian theology, right? So like angels came down, rebalt against God, inner bread with humankind. That would be, I think, a good starting point for what potentially the Anunnaki were.

1:32:20Yeah, God probably didn't like that they were coming around and taking the ancient hominids and juicing them up. Juicing them up, make them chest champions. Unapproved. Haven't did not approve. Yeah, it's probably against the code of the universe. God probably says, look, you can go visit, but don't mess around with it. Well, there's definitely something to be said, it actually talks about this in Inak about a divine justice. And so I think, again, going back to what is our job, how society function? You have aspects in like government, do you trust your government? Is government going to follow through and bring accountability?

1:32:55That's our job at the same sense in that we have to ensure that if we are truly, you have an equal and fair society that you have to have this aspect of justice that has to be carried out. And I can go back to something that I've found kind of crazy, but the mandatory minimums for child predators are not that high in this country. And so Congress can actually increase the mandatory minimums, but there's been a lot of lethargy about that. It's like, why would you not want to increase it? Some people are against the death penalty. And I would say that it's not my job to play God or to judge people just to help to arrange the meeting.

1:33:30Yeah, it's a weird job, right? I mean, you're involved in the disclosure of things that have questioned, that people have questioned forever. I mean, these are, those are the huge questions that exist from the 1960s on. UFOs, JFK, Martin Luther King, RFK. Those are the big ones. Those are the big ones. We're pushing for it and there's a good group of people that are assigned to it. I did say recently so the MLK documents just came out and we're wrapping up our JFK investigation. So after we finalize the JFK investigation, we're putting out an official congressional report on our findings and people can read it and decipher themselves.

1:34:07Then we have RFK and then MLK. But I think a lot of the MLK family was actually very concerned that we were going to go into extra curricular and that's not the objective of the task force. It's to specifically expose what the government was doing if they knew about the potential threats and people say, well, why do we care about? I constantly get, well, we shouldn't care about this. No, you should because there has to be a check in balance. And when you know if the CIA was operating outside the purview of the federal government, if you know that whistle blowers are being punished, if there needs to be reformed to the FOIA Act, all this stuff, then we have to be able to put forward legislation to ensure it doesn't happen again.

1:34:43And what's been very interesting and almost serendipitous about the whole JFK investigation is, you have President Trump now in the second term that's released all this information and multiple presidents tried to, but they were worked against by their own secretaries within these agencies and then deep sea actors that try to block the efforts for release. Now you're seeing kind of a flush of the system and even though information hasn't come out as fast as we would like it to, the fact that they've made these admissions is really good. But moving forward into how do you prevent this from happening again?

1:35:16It's people really do, like young people especially because there's so much fatigue for people that have been in office for you know and the reason I say that I don't even want to do this for the next 10 years is because everyone even people I've looked up to after a certain amount of time they lose their edge and I think that that's because like you're up there you're taking a lot of incoming it's it's not a fun job like you're getting attacked like you're getting beat down it's stressful but if you can put all your energy in it now and then you can cut ties and pass it on that's how our founding fathers wanted us to do is like pass the torch, stand up the next generation.

1:35:47Right, but we have a bunch of career politicians that want to stay in office for 50, 60 years. Correct. And that's a problem. And it's on both sides. Yeah, it's on both sides. So I'm trying to do a discharge petition now on term limits. So back in January of my first term. So back in January of 2022, I'm sure you saw there was like this massive speakers fight about confirming Kevin McCarthy as a speaker of the speaker of the house. And I was part of one of those 20 that said, we're We're not going to vote for you just yet. We need to reform the institution in the way that we function, because power had been consolidated within the speakers position so much so that how it's supposed to work is you're supposed to be able to bring a bill forward, that bill's supposed to come to the floor.

1:36:28All of these policies were being consolidated in one person. And if you didn't fall in line, you wouldn't get committee assignments, you wouldn't be able to fundraise. They would basically cut off all aspects of fundraising in Washington. And the mainstream media for a while I was like, you guys are disrupting the process. You know, like you guys are fighting. Well, what the hell do you want Congress to do? You want us to just fall in line and not argue our principles? Like that's, that's, that's, last time I checked, you're supposed to fight for that. And so we were able to reform the institution, but one of the things that we had negotiated with the former speaker was we wanted a vote on terminaments and that never came up.

1:37:00And so now because of our very slim majority, one of the most slim majorities in US history, we have the ability to do something called a discharge petition and it's where you can physically go down and basically collect signatures on a bill And so I'm bringing forward to that have already been filed. One is going to be to force a vote on term limit. So I'm going to see if members of Congress will actually put their name to actually bring that bill to the floor. There's going to be a massive, I hope, pressure campaign to activate members to do that. And then the other one is banning insider trading.

1:37:28Yeah, that's been talked about for a while. But hasn't been done. And we can do it now. It just needs a little more money and then she'll quit. Well, it's not, you know, there was a comms director meeting for the entire GOP. and I'm calling up Birchitz bill on banning insider trading and we were not invited to that meeting. Our staff was excommunicated from that. I wonder why. Yeah, I know. So they got making money. Shocker. It's crazy how openly corrupt that part of the business is. But the thing is, once you've become accustomed to be able to do something and you've been able to do it for decades, you're very reluctant to give that up.

1:38:03Why would you give that up? That's a huge advantage. People say that it doesn't exist. But last time I checked when you are given access to CEOs when you're given access to information that are affecting markets And then you're on the committee or that has purview over those bills you do have information like Like you have a little you have a little more than the average person and there's a lot You know you can look at people's you know they go in you're making 175 a year and then all of a sudden you come out You're worth like 20 million 200 million. It's kind of it's pretty shady. You're not really gambling The stock market is kind of gambling.

1:38:36The UFC doesn't even allow me to gamble, and I can't even affect the outcome. But you can't do it, but Congress can. But Congress can, for now at least. The inside information that I have, anybody could have, mostly, not really. No, that's not true. No, I know some stuff sometimes unfortunately. Yeah, I was told if I forced to vote that I was gonna cost us the Republic is what I was told. But the thing about the insider trading thing is, the amount of money is so egregious. Like isn't Pelosi now worth 400 million? Wasn't that the... I saw upwards of 200 million, but... I thought... She jacked up her portfolio recently significantly.

1:39:14But it's not just her, it's on both sides. Oh yeah, no, she's just the poster lady. Unfortunately. No, no slight at her. It's all across the board. If you look at how many people, it's red, blue, red, blue, it's the whole thing. Yeah. Everybody's doing it. I told my husband I was like, like we're not gonna do stocks because it's just, that's the one thing you could talk to anyone. I actually was reading an article so in the local press or like, Reppelun is trying to force a vote on this, right? And so like I'm always the kind of red headed step child usually with especially in dumb circles. But this one lady post I used to actually start laughing she goes, well, a broken clock is right twice a day and I started laughing because I'm like, it's such like a bipartisan issue.

1:39:52Like over 80 % of Americans don't think that Congress should be able to trade stock. And it's true because we're given access to the information and that that's truly influencing your decision. Did you ask her what the rest of you are wrong about? I mean, I tend to, I think it's just, I think it's party associations. Like some people just will never vote. About Brown King Clark. Yeah, but. Yeah, people are rabid and they're super upset. Now, obviously, because Trump's in office again, so that that rabid nature has been over amplified. It has, I think a lot of it, those driven by, like, bot activity, I think is really big.

1:40:26I can tell you that when I first launched the task force people were like she's an intelligence asset She's never gonna release information that it came out that I actually don't have declassification authority But we have been able to produce wins and we are getting full cooperation from the executive branch So we're just simply investigating the findings collecting the information and pressing for release There's real people along with those bots, but real people are also influenced by bots as well There's there's there's waves of negativity and positivity to go in certain directions that are orchestrated in this companies that are known companies that you can actually hire them to do stuff.

1:40:59They exist in Florida actually. There's a couple of social media influencers that have been approached. I've seen it. So I know it exists. Crazy. What's interesting though is it goes back to that you never want to get in trouble and a crowd of people because they'll just look at each other. You ever see like someone getting beat up and they just like film it, right? So going to help that person and that's part of that group think it exists online. I do think X need to do something at least like be able to label bought accounts because I've seen it happen, especially on certain things like I had done something to allow new moms to vote when you're recovering.

1:41:29Our job is different. Like only 13 women in US history have ever given birth. It's about to be 14. We are members of Congress and God forbid we enter a war or something. We're not going to be able to vote. If you're recovering in a hospital, that's a pretty like rare circumstance. And so there was definitely bought a lot of counts that were attacking me for that. And accusing me of like destroying the Republic again. I said, I don't think that that's the case. Yeah, that's not tinfoil hat stuff folks. You really need to know that why wouldn't there be this is the thing Like if you were whether it's this country a corporation another country Why wouldn't you Automate your system or have AI or even had just have actual people that have a job and their job is to type in Flammatory Whatever it is insults.

1:42:16Whatever it is like whatever their their accomplishment whatever their goal. They're trying to accomplish is Why wouldn't you have a group of people that you have at your command if it's legal? So it is legal. So it is legal. And in politics, what's interesting is the test, especially when you're running for office, it's kind of interesting because you'll actually, during my first race, I actually had a firm that I was going to for consulting. And they had someone that had worked at the firm that had also worked with like McDonald's branding. So people that are running for office will bring on these firms and then they'll give them kind of like a branding profile.

1:42:50What was interesting about that is that, you know, you have this aspect of bought activity. Social media at the time was kind of just resurfacing is if you want to be kind of influential, you have to be able to use social media, share your messaging, get that out there. And I think Trump really kind of refined that was kind of one of the leading figures in that especially when Twitter 1 .0 was in existence. But then you had this aspect of people that were running for office. And then there was actually a censorship state in this country. And we found that out that Twitter 1 .0 was coordinating with the Department of Homeland Security.

1:43:21We found this out actually in a congressional hearing where they were actually in DHS had a division under size that was supposed to be monitoring terrorist organizations and they were using it on the American people to censor information specifically on COVID, on January 6th, all that. That is scary. You still have censorship issues in places like the EU. So like to think that they wouldn't use social media platforms especially to influence masses is just that's not a conspiracy theory that happens. we have evidence of that. Of course, censorship is influencing. It's also causing people to self -censor, which changes discourse.

1:43:51Yeah, not wanting to have conversations. Yeah, but you can get banned from Twitter for a variety of things, particularly during COVID. But I think COVID was also a great test case for them. Let's see, like, if there is some sort of catastrophe, some natural disasters, some national security issue, where we could now enforce new regulations of censorship. Well, and scary regulations at that, because COVID was really kind of dystopian and and going back to kind of, you know, I think you'd mentioned foreign government influence using bots. The one thing that's been interesting is, in our investigation, so like, taking now my task force had off and going into actually problems that we see right now happening, you saw this like massive a couple of weeks ago, a riff that was taking place between the American people specifically on immigration and all of a sudden these like pop up riots.

1:44:36I actually called them the team who riots, like the team who Chinese that, because it came out, via actually this woman, her name's data Republican on X, And she actually tracked down the funding line. And what was happening was the Chinese government was basically propping up this millionaire, American billionaire, Neville Singhham. And actually, he was donating money to organizations like party of socialism and liberation. And they were actually funding a lot of these riot pop -ups in the area. So you had people that were being used, divided, for example, on the immigration topic. You literally have them passing out, you know, Mexican flags saying that they cared about immigrants when in actuality the financial ties is actually coming from the CCP.

1:45:16So the Chinese government on many occasions, and it's not uncommon within Congress to know even on apps like TikTok, they were showing certain information in order to cause a rift in influence people. The same individual level saying, Ham, actually, once we got this information, we sent a request to have him come testify to Congress. And he spends part of his year in Shanghai, China, and so we were not able to deliver him his subpoena, basically. And so there's a letter that Chairman Comer has now authorized to be sent that will go to the Treasury Department to freeze his assets unless he comes to testify to Congress.

1:45:48Wow. And that mind you, this is not, you know, people and like, look, I started out before politics with my feet getting wet as an activist. Like that's actually how we started out in politics. So like, I understand the immigration, the board. I've like, understand all arguments because I've been through and I've had a debate on debate it. But what's a problem for me is that you have foreign governments trying to cause a rift and then promote ideologies that will empower people specifically to push forward policy that will actually put us as like second tier as opposed to the Chinese government.

1:46:23And I do think that the Chinese government in their execution has been very, very specific about how they want to hinder our ability to be global dominators. I think when you're looking at what happened in COVID, timeframe, right? Like, like a lot of people said that Wuhan lab leak that that was a conspiracy theory. We now know that it happened and that was true. But at the same time, if you look at what President Trump was doing, he was actually trying to negotiate trade with China and he was winning and then all of a sudden COVID happened. Well, what was interesting second time around a Trump 2 .0 is that you have all these Timur rights taking place.

1:46:56At the same time, and almost got no coverage in the mainstream media, but you had multiple Chinese nationals that were caught trying to release agro terrorism weapons. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah, agro terrorism weapons and then at the same time, the Terra Four was taking place and then you actually saw them trying to infiltrate. So I don't think it's by accident, but I do think that it's important to remember that just because you see something happening on the mainstream media, the media will always try to amplify something because it's rage baiting and it's clicking its views, which translates to money.

1:47:25And if it's negative against Trump, it gets It's of course, of course, but when you actually look at where the funding stream is coming from, it actually goes back to China. And this is not the only incident where they try to drive a wedge between Americans and then actually like, like, compartmentalize with Hispanic Americans specifically. So in 2016, now the largest voting minority in the country are Hispanic Americans specifically of Mexican descent. And I think you can find that sad on pewhispanic .org. So when you're looking at voting demographics, how could you influence an entire demographic to help skew or influence the midterm election.

1:47:58And it would be specifically probably on the immigration topic to try to race -bait people. But then you have this aspect of the same guy, Neville Singhham, his wife actually funds an organization called Code Pink. So this is all Chinese money now going to a separate cause. And this one specifically is on the Israel versus Palestine issue. They don't care about Israelis or Palestinians. This is a Chinese -funded group. And what they're doing is they're using that front in an effort to then divide on that topic as well. So it's a multifaceted approach using minority classes in order to actually push the end goal, which would be communism.

1:48:33Wow. And also too, you can actually look on the flyers for these organizations. So PSL, Neville Seeingham is actually an open admirer of Mao Zedong. I mean, it's all up there and it's out there for you to find. But it's just crazy because most people, you see this aspect of propaganda that's being shown to you. and you're not gonna be like, who's funding that? You're gonna be like, tell that person, and I'm gonna fight for this, but they don't actually realize the more nefarious perspective of what's happening behind the scenes. So, I absolutely believe this is true, that I'm sure other countries fund similar things, but also it was in reaction to some of the ice raids, right?

1:49:14I mean, it was a visceral reaction that a lot of people had the idea of people just showing up and pulling people out of schools and pulling people out of home depot and pulling people that were just hardworking people that maybe snuck over here because they didn't have a legal way to get over here. But since they've been here, they've been good people. And they're a part of communities. And that's what freaks people out. Because when people thought about ice, they thought, great, we're going to get rid of the gang members. They didn't think, great, you're going to get rid of a landscaper. But the question is, why didn't they do it then during?

1:49:45Why did these rights and why did this just keep them on the happy under? No, no, no, I don't disagree with you. I think Obama Biden listen, I'm sure these riots some of these riots absolutely are manufactured I'm sure they are I'm sure these pallets of bricks that get left off on corners when they know that there's gonna be Yeah, that was right that's bananas And one they found they found a risk but to your point so how do you fix something like the immigration system as a hold right? So you definitely don't have an open border. That's crazy Because you need to know people are criminals that are coming in you don't want cartel members coming in you don't want murderers coming in and serial killers.

1:50:20Like there's a reason why I have borders. All the above, right? There's a reason why we have borders. But the thing that freaks people out is like, how many corporations rely on illegal labor? How many slaughterhouses? I actually, yeah, we actually, last year, I was putting out some messaging on them because I'd watched this documentary about the slaughterhouses. How are they actually using migrant children, like 14, 15 in some of these slaughterhouses? And the lobbyists from Tyson chicken corporation contacted my chief of staff at the time and was like trying to basically say like, hey, like basically back off, but like I don't care.

1:50:59Like it's wrong, like I don't care where you're on the spectrum. We shouldn't allow migrant labor with children specifically because child slave labor. I'll tell you a story that a high level government official told me. Okay. I don't want to, I don't know if he said it on here or not, so I don't want to say his name. Wait, so he was on here so then that narrows it. Wow. Okay, it's okay. Someone actually said to him that they don't want to stop the illegal immigration because they need cheap labor. Correct. I actually think that it'll never stop at least not in Congress. That they don't have to pay them any benefits.

1:51:29They don't have to take care of their insurance. Or pay them at all. Well, they pay them, but they don't have to pay them what they're supposed to pay them. Well, I've heard cases where people, specifically contractors, will walk on people if they know that they're here illegally. And like, so going back to like, how do you fix this? Right. Is one of the top cases that I handle aside from Social Security, Health and Refunds, like within my Congressional office, so a Congressional office does constituent services, and it's basically like customer service. Like, have you been victimized by the federal government?

1:51:57You know, call this number. That's your Congressional office. So specifically on immigration cases, like if you've had an issue with the State Department, VISA's all that, you can contact your local congressmen. And so what I will say is that we've had people that have spent like tens of thousands of dollars to come here, But it takes like 20 something years to do and that's part of the problem is there's been such an influx and such a Bogdown of the actual system that our actual system is not functioning at the capacity that it should actually help people come here the correct way Well, especially poor people right and if you want to immigrate to the United States The application one of the things they ask you are you an expert in something where people in the United States can't do it like a or maybe you're a musician and like no one else could sing your songs.

1:52:44Like you maybe you could get citizenship from that, but if you're just a landscaper, you're just a guy who lives in a third world country and you want a better life and you say, I heard you can get across and I heard when you get across you can get work. Like what is that guy going to do? Okay, it doesn't have the money to hire a lawyer or he's not going to, how is he going to prove that he's more valuable than a United States citizen that's already here doing the exact same job? I do think that unless we are able to assign probably more lawyers, more judges to actually hear these cases, it's going to continue to be a problem.

1:53:16And I have heard, okay, on the floor, these are conversations between members that to a certain extent, especially when you're talking about, you know, like an e -verify system within the ag industry that actually members of that committee don't want that because they know that the farmers are actually heavily relying on some of these illegal sworked events. Yeah, and construction crews and fill in the blanks. So I can confirm that. Yeah, so isn't the solution force people to pay everybody exactly the same way? Well, yeah, because you don't have the decrease in weight as however, I think the bigger problem that we have here though is that at least specifically in my district and then also to having argued this is that this gray area that's been created in my opinion, they don't want a solution for they do it intentionally with the understanding that both sides are going to fundraise off of it.

1:54:02In my opinion, if I was to be able to actually fix this, I would say that you have to, I would say pause, let the system run through, take everyone in, vet them, make sure that they're not criminals, etc. But then the system allows time for it to actually catch up to itself, and then you can continue as is. Well, you just said was so scary that they don't want to resolve it because they want the issue to exist, so they could fundraise for it against it. Yeah. That's so nuts and probably so accurate. That's probably so accurate. Cause anytime anything ever happens, one of the first things they do is like, please donate, like throw it up.

1:54:42All the people that are very reactionary are like, I can't believe this is happening. Shh. I knew it's crazy as most elected officials might send out that email, but the email fundraisers actually are taking like 80 % of that dollar. That's like usually that average retro. And it's like I'm in the wrong business. This is crazy. The scariest thing about non -profits is how much profit they make. It's really weird when you see the salaries of some of these people. They're in non -profits. I will never I will never a million dollars a year. You're like, what is how is that and they do nothing? Crazy or what's going on with the LA fire thing?

1:55:16You know where they can't figure out where all the money went and it went to 188 different non -profits. Who is it Spencer? Is it Spencer? I was like Spencer Pratt for Gunner. pit bull that do on that thing. Well, they burn it's fucking house got burnt down. And then they promised all these celebrities are like, yeah, donate, we'll give it to the victims. It's like, where did it go? There's like this fine print that he wrote. It's really weird, but it exposes the legality of these systems. They're, it's legal for them to operate like that where, you know, an enormous percentage of all the money that comes in goes to overhead.

1:55:49It goes to salaries. And it's like, but it's such a scam. It's such a weird scam. and such a devious thing because you're pulling on people's heartstrings. Which is why going back to what I said, we need younger people and we need more normal people to run for office. We need AI to take over. I don't know about that. AI is our God. So no. No, no, no. AI is our governor. AI is our king. That's what we'll say in school now. AI is our king. We need to, I think AI can be used in good senses. Like I can, and I ask rock things a lot and I will argue points. But I think we need to work alongside it because there's this aspect of AI that removes the humanity Like I don't think you can teach AI empathy and there's a certain aspect of humanity that needs to be kept involved in these decision making processes For example if you have a drone that's been targeted to let's say eliminate a terrorist at this grid location and it's Functioning solely on AI will what's going to Enable it to be able to pause on destruction of a location if there's children within it I mean, if it's a bot, it's not thinking.

1:56:53And they're like, true. But the US history of drone use is no better than what you just described. Well, there are oversights and massive investigations, especially if it's in regard to civilian casualties. But civilian casualties are the majority of deaths from drones. I would say based on the people that I've talked with and interacted, it's definitely happened in the past, and it's definitely problematic, however. But it's, I think it's the majority. It's, but it's the majority. I have to, I mean, I don't, the majority of the people that are died, that died, were civilians. They weren't the intended targets.

1:57:28Well, and that's a problem. And that's where a lot of these people do. You have low acts. So there's massive investigations with the Jags, et cetera, that get involved in these investigations. I'm saying, like, would AI be better than that? I don't know. Well, I think you can have, I think you can have an AI decision -making process, but where there is a human involved in that set process. So like, the human would be the final step in authority. So the AI would rank it. And like granted, I'm not an AI programmer, but I am saying that I think that there's an interface where you can have humans involved in the final set.

1:57:53Well, the most terrifying solution is not that is don't use the missiles. Instead you have a drone that specifically targets one person. Yeah, they're suicide drones. Yeah, but it's even worse. It flies through the house and like lands on the dude's head blows up. Don't freak me out too much because the Chinese have a little spy drone that's like literally this big. Oh yeah, yeah, and they just they have bug drones. Yeah, I'm sure our government does too. There's no way the Chinese and the only ones who do it, especially if they've really have been back engineering UFOs for the last 40 years. I don't I don't think that any other government is as advanced in regards to that topic as we potentially are and I say that because if that were the case, then they would be the world superpower.

1:58:38I agree with that, but I also think that even though we probably have the best military contractors. We also get infiltrated by the Chinese government and the Russian government all the time. Oh, that's they're always getting. And Congress gets infiltrated. Yes. Like how many people like have all of a sudden like girlfriend, staffers, Chinese girlfriend, thank -wink. No comment on that. Well guys are weak. We're so weak. All you have to do is be hot and we're stupid. We can span that guy. Of course. There's always going to be people like that infiltrate universities, that infiltrate research centers, they get information back to the CCP.

1:59:14There's that famous story. I think Mark Andreessen told us about how, what was it in Berkeley? I forget what the corporation was, but the power went down. And so all these CCP people panicked because they were supposed to send the information back and if they don't, hey, maybe your grandmother doesn't get her medicine. Maybe, you know what I mean? Maybe your family gets a visit. Like, you have to be on time. The University of Michigan has now had like what to I think those agro terrorism was like University of Michigan Yeah, it's like all over the country. They've been infiltrated by like the these governments have like very cleverly inserted their Ideology into these universities like Yuri Bespinoff talked about this that Russia was doing this in the 1980s It was 1984 the one thing that's been interesting is and a lot of people aren't talking about there's one Representative member Republican from California that's addressing it, but But when they have, surrogates have children here for US citizenship, but then they take them back and fully integrate them and educate them in China.

2:00:14And so technically they're US citizens, but they are being totally raised with the ideology and perspective of the Chinese government. And that's an interesting perspective that people hold. And then they come back over here and they're full US citizens. Yeah, full access to the Chinese government. Yes, access to all of our resources, everything, education system, and - And then we sell the Chinese government land around our military bases. So that has been, I love our libertarian brothers, okay, but ancestors, but I have gone into so many debates on this because we're like, well, we shouldn't limit an American's ability to actually sell their property.

2:00:45And I'm like, yeah, but the Chinese government literally wants to eliminate the West as we know it. And so we have to be cognizant of that. And also to, by the way, it's not like you're just buying a military installation. You think that they're not actually actually putting tech and or observing, monitoring, pulling all of our resources. I mean, it's crazy. Like Mike Baker talked about this on the podcast that they sell cell phone towers. Huawei. To these companies, but Huawei, which was, they were really problematic. But they sell these cell phone towers near these bases. And so they sell them at a discounted rate.

2:01:19And then the Huawei stuff was crazy because it actually had like a third party access built into some of their systems. And a lot of the tech that they actually sell here, whether it's to our law enforcement, So like any time you have specifically, I would say like within even our craning and like our actual shipping operations Those things are sending signals back home Yeah, well, we're so stupid. We can't make those things Well, we should we should be making so there's Palsich and if you have an American business you can now actually get a big tax incentive for manufacturing back home It's great, but it's gonna take 10 years for us to even catch up to where they are now We just got a statement course What a dumb idea like everyone has a cell phone no one can make a phone that what Is that no one saw that coming?

2:02:00That's bananas. All of them get big. They sold us out in the 70s for manufacturing. And I think that that's where you're seeing this, you know, aspect of people that are very like, if you talk about, and I'm not like an isolationist by any means, but like I do believe that we should have, especially with COVID, everyone saw this. We should have certain things that are just manufactured here. I think tech is extremely important. I think Palmer, like he's doing like laptops or something now in the United States, is trying to actually move that over. Elon should make a phone. I bet he's thinking about it because he's in some sort of a dispute right now with Apple because Apple won't...

2:02:31There's something about the way GROC AI shows up and he's saying that their algorithm is essentially rigged where open AI is like GROC AI is never featured. Oh really? I have something about a GROC app on my phone but... So maybe that'll incentivize him to make a phone. Elon make a phone and we'll try it out. Elon must as Apple is rigging the app store for chat. the tech mogul is threatening immediate legal action, accusing the iPhone maker of unequivocable antitrust violation designed to favor his AI rival. Oh, is this AI rival the Sam Altman figure? Yeah, it's interesting. I'm wondering if that there's, I mean, you don't just say something like that, do you?

2:03:11No, no, he definitely, he's not as dummy, he's smart. There's definitely something. Oh, readers added context. 2025 deep seek reached number one and deep seeks the Japanese, the Chinese one, right? Oh, and deep seeks freaky about some of the stuff that it can just one month ago perplexity also reached number one overall in India's App Store both of these occurred after the open AI Apple partnership announced on June 10th, 2024 But what about the United States? Because the United States is the biggest market When it comes to like We're probably the highest percentage of people to use Apple I mean it's literally when you go to buy a phone.

2:03:47It's usually yeah I think it's something crazy with kids. It's like 84 % or something like that. Oh, don't get me. If you have a kid, keep them off phones as long as you can. Yes, for sure, but I mean, but the point is like the app store in America is that is the monopoly in this country. If you want to get an app, I mean, it's not an monopoly, but the leader, the head leader. To be honest with you, I've only ever had an iPhone and so that's the only platform I've ever used. I know it's like Android versus iPhone. Now I have both. They're both really good. But the Android's way better than it used to be.

2:04:19But it's so fruity. I had it back in the day, but it's right there where the iPhone is right now just different and gives you a lot more access to stuff. Well, it's still fruity though, then you have these phones that are considered actual safe phones that aren't ripping your data and basically turning on every 10 minutes to be able to target you for sales, whatever it might be. I can tell you that, you know, given my job and some of this stuff, I am totally freaked out by having an iPhone and I look forward to the day where I don't have to have a phone. I'm going to hit a flip phone. You're going to, they're going to, they're going to hurt you for chip in your head by then.

2:04:49No, absolutely. Of me, of all people, no chips for chip free. I don't know if there are any phones that really truly are safe. I mean, I know that there's, um, there's some phones that run on alternative operating systems that aren't Google. What is that alternative system that they use with Pixel phones? That now, uh, at least the French government, when they find people that have Google phones, they immediately look at that person as a point of interest. Because they're like, we can't track you. Yeah, because they're using this other operating system. What is it called again? I can't remember it, but it's what Adam Curry uses.

2:05:24It's a D -Google iPhone that uses an alternative operating system. So this doesn't send data. I'm sure the GPS sucks. It's probably graphene. That's right. Graphene OS. So there's multiple different different OSs that people use outside of the Google But you can only use it on Android phones and a lot of people use it on pixel phones You can actually buy them. What is that guy's name? the Asian gentleman Who has that braxton? He he sells them and he is like a security advocate He's always talking to you about how insecure all your technology is and explaining why they add at this and what this means now and where your data is going and how they can track you and it's made me.

2:06:12So he sells D -gold -gold iPhones. Oh, he's a response to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is wondering what I'm hiding five years ago. I was fucking around. I was just saying, what's that guy hiding? He's scared. So this guy's been at this forever, right? So five years ago, we were talking about him and he was making these phones five years ago. Well, and from a government perspective, you have this aspect of a lot of people don't want to reform FISA, FISA in the way that it can surveillance some Americans is pretty freaky. We would like really freaky really freaky and we you know I actually did not get a committee assignment on house farm services as a vet because I voted against FISA and I was one of two that voted against it and they said that I was not a team player but we actually look at play for the team.

2:07:00Yeah. It seems to be like an ongoing thing. I am I'm playing for the team, but it's just not the team. It's not a nutty thing to say. Like, whatever happened to the representative of the people, what are we doing? There's actually, there's still a few good representatives. I believe you. It's a few different. Well, I think it's hard. It's probably hard to stay the course. It's probably hard to keep your morals and your ethics why everyone around you isn't. You have to not, so some of the best representatives, that is best even people and government are the ones that did not have to do this job.

2:07:34Right. And that's because if you're giving up something to come here, it means that you're doing it for the right reasons. If you have nothing to gain from this position and this is the only thing you've ever wanted to be, you're usually not the best person for that job. And I say that because you are then only going to do what it takes to get re -elected, which means that you are willing to compromise your principles. Because there will be decisions that you have to take where you're going to have to stand firm on your principles and be like, I can't put for that. And there's massive pressure campaigns.

2:08:00Like when a certain bill comes up if I'm voting against it, you have planted stories in the press, you have superpacks that will come in and drop text messages in your district to your constituents saying that did you know that representative so -and -so voted against this? And so you have to be able to be like, all right, I'm just gonna just disconnect. And at a certain point, you do have to do that because then you'll go crazy. You can go crazy if you read all the bots. Oh, you can't read, don't fight with the bots. Don't fight with the bots. No, people do read them. It's just interesting that's like a representative Like when you see representatives today some of them are kind of characters, you know, where they become like awesome Yeah, well they become popular, you know, they become like Federman, you know is pop He's not too he's he's changed.

2:08:46He's like actually makes sense on Much more reasonable. Yeah, then most yeah, he's a logical guy. He's a very nice guy I think it's hilarious that he still wears the hoodie and the shorts and like he's exploiting a rule He is in the sun at the kind of rites. He's kind of right and that is really how he likes to dress. When I saw him in DC, it was like 10 degrees out. Let's do that shorts on and a hoodie, a car heart hoodie. But he's like, that's genuinely him, I think. He's a good guy. He's a big guy too. So there's only a certain thing. Pulse wets a lot. Pulse is easily warmed like seeing the cold.

2:09:21Not saying that we know he sweats, but just, you know. For sure he does. He's a big guy. But yeah, no, he's reasonable, but the point is that he's kind of a character like Jasmine Crocett's a character AOC's a character There's characters and they you know, they're like main characters in this political show that we're all watching on television So I actually was on Oversight with all this except for Fetterman and what I'll tell you is oversight tends to bring out the characters for sure Okay, and but I will say is that actually I I have been able to on certain things like with AOC, I introduced a piece of legislation.

2:09:53So there was a partner bill in the Senate with Bernie Sanders and I think Josh Holley took a credit card interest at 10%. And then I started getting a lot of heat for it because other people are like, you can't do that. And I was like, well, most of these banks that we're talking about are actually taking government bailout. So if you're taking a government bailout and you're essentially operating off the good wall of the federal government, then you should be held a standard. Because then you have like predatory lending and I'm just not happening to some of these people, will take out a, you know, a credit, or max out their credit cards and that for the rest of their life, they're paying back the debt.

2:10:23And then also there's something that we've been able to introduce. So this is like the more populist representation where you see both the right and the left kind of agree on certain things. And there's another bill that I'm introducing with another Democrat and another Republican that's a more moderate Republican, but it's actually to cap student loan interest at 2 .5%. So that would be wonderful because I was just going to ask you about that. I was reading this woman on X and she was talking about how she graduated with student loans that equaled I think it was $28 ,000 She's paid off. She's never misdepayment.

2:10:56Tui paid off $24 ,000 and she still owes $60 ,000. Yeah, so what they do is they actually and I've Quote been quote on this but it creates an indentured servant basically for the rest of her life They're paying off this set and you can never actually You know, function it's absolutely insane Yeah, if she's telling the truth and I believe she is that's absolutely insane that you could owe $60 ,000 plus dollars after a $24 ,000 or $28 ,000 alone when you've paid 24 ,000 of it off It's if for people that are actually trying to better themselves that might have to take out Script limits for that. It's crippling and then they actually can't get a good start at being contributing members of society They're actually exactly If you want to make America great again have less people in debt have less losers opportunity Yeah, more people that can get things going on because they're not burdened by some crazy debt that really Is not right.

2:11:47It's not right that you do that's an 18 year old kid saddle them down like that for the rest of their life And to be clear like I'm not talking about student loan forgiveness I think you're not either but you know I I had to join the military I paid for my college using the GI Bill and so do I think student loans for gives is fair? No, but is this a way that we can actually meet make a happy medium to where people are actually given the opportunity to pay back the debt and yes, and so I look forward to introducing that, but that's a piece of legislation that should be on the floor and that it's not.

2:12:14And it's not on the floor. I think in an ideal world, education is free. In an ideal country where you really care about the people and you really want more success stories, education is free. Difficult to get into, you have to be qualified, a true meritocracy, but education should be free. And if these certain people from different parts of the country don't seem to be getting in, address that, figure out what's wrong with their school system, and throw federal funds at that. It's not impossible to figure out why certain school systems are doing poorly and other ones are doing great. I will tell you, from a personal lens perspective, so when I was in my freshman year in high school, I moved up to LA with my mom.

2:12:56And by the time I graduated, I went to six high schools and an adult school. That's actually, I like barely graduated. And what I will say is that one of the high schools I want to - go to different schools? It just how ended up functioning. So like my freshman year, my mom went through a divorce, my dad got arrested. So I have an interesting background. So there was that. A lot of stuff. Yeah. But I ended up actually going to Venice High School one of these times. And that was around my junior year. And what the LA unified school district was doing at the time. They were actually busing in kids from other parts of LA county.

2:13:31And at the time, specifically in the early 2000s, there's a big issue with the Black and Chicano gangs in LA. And so, you know, what was happening outside and the neighborhoods was carrying on into the school districts. And when you have gang activity and like kids, the only opportunity that they have is like being able to join a gang and that's it. You know, they're never gonna go to college. They're never gonna have the opportunity. And so that carries on into the education system. They're never given a chance. And so, I think in Florida, we've been doing it right with school choice. President Trump's been pretty big on that.

2:13:59But being able to give students or their parents the ability to send them to good schools without gang activity outside of their zip code that matters and that does impact people and Cracking down on gang activity. It's so there's a kid that was shot in the parking lot of my school Oh And shot and killed you guys actually pulled the article Venice High School school shooting. No, listen You don't have to tell me Venice was crazy back it back before his gentrified it was rough Yeah, I mean, it's kind of getting crazy now with homeless people I haven't been back since I basically left it so when I was 19 I joined the military and then my mom ended up leaving California with my little brother and sister, probably about like five years ago now.

2:14:36Venice is always such an interesting part of LA because it's like LA but really weird, like weird people. Like interesting, weird people. LA is weird, there's a whole. Yeah, but Venice has like a surf culture, you know. Dog town. Dog town. There's a lot of people that are artists that live there that affects the vibe of the place. Like Venice in the 90s was really cool. Well in the early 2000s it was cool too but it was rough. I mean I am. What's always been filled with crime? Well, I got jumped. Yeah, and when I was a... Yeah, I got jumped in high school. I swear, like, part of the reason why I'm such a huge advocate for, like, standing up to bullies is probably because of that.

2:15:11Damn. Venice was rough. Yeah. Back in the day. I had a buddy of mine who lived there in the park where he used to take his kid. Someone got shot in it. Yeah. And he's like, okay, great. What do I take my kid now? I can't, you know? Honestly, so like... It's crazy. Seeing all that, though, like being able to see that and then kind of tell that story, like, I do think that there's power in that because there's people that go through that and think like, man, I might not be able to be successful, but that's not true. You can always fight your way out of it. I joined the military at 19, best thing I ever did.

2:15:43I met a lot of other people in the military who grew up in inner city Chicago or wherever it was, they were able to go back and help their family and to my mom's credit. My mom also has an incredible story, but she had me at 20 years old seeing a mom. My dad ended up eventually getting clean, but my husband and I moved him in with us and then he got sober. And so that story in itself, I think, you know, you tell your story and it empowers other people, especially to be fighters and not just give up. There's a lot of people have bad childhoods. Yeah, and people aren't gonna tell you that. Like, no, you're gonna be like, you know, but.

2:16:16But it's also great for someone to hear a story like yours or someone who came out of a similar childhood, maybe that they're having, or maybe even worse than they're having. And you see what you've been able to do. Like that's powerful to people. Well, and it is. And it's powerful, I think, to an idea that would like to box certain people, whether like you're a woman or you're Hispanic into this stereotype on how you should believe and think and vote. Or you're poor, you come from a single mom. I think that was one of the most important things about Obama becoming president. We heard, like, okay, guys comes from a single mom and he became the president of the United States.

2:16:48It was like, for a lot of people, it's like, okay. Related, okay. Yeah, well, maybe my life isn't what I wished it would be, But look with that guy's able to accomplish. Maybe I can do something to instead of thinking I'm gonna be a loser forever Well, what was interesting is I shared my story So like remember I told you I started out as an activist and I would tell people this because you know I do feel like to add a certain sense when you tell your story you can share that You're empowering other people to take something and turn into a positive and Within a like maybe a couple weeks of me getting elected I all of a sudden started having this Washington Post reporter reaching out to my family and actually asked my mom whether she had proof that my grandmother had actually passed away HIV positive.

2:17:31Oh God. And was her after you. Good time to catch you. A lot. Yeah, and so they put out this nasty, nasty article about me basically trying to say that I had fabricated my dad's incarceration record. They had tried to say that I was a registered Democrat in Washington like all this stuff that was categorically false and I had actually gotten contacted from like my old, old, sorry school. And it's a little smear piece. Oh, it's terrible, but I had receipts. And so after this came out, I said, no, hold up. And I actually gave Fox News all of my stuff that I had and I was able to refute. And then Time Magazine had actually reached out and they said, would you mind if we conduct an interview on your back?

2:18:05And I said, have out it, here's my information. I had actually even gotten my DNA done to prove that I'm Hispanic because of the fact that I'm lighter skin. When I got elected, there was this contribution how Hispanic was I. And it was actually a thing. I'm also like, speedy -consult with a sombrero running around. Yeah, it's like what advice about that so racist how that's so racist how is bed isn't that funny that that's the time where the left is allowed to be racist just like so crazy that is such a crazy thing to say how Hispanic is yeah right how black are you exactly Obama you look that black to me it was it was crazy but I actually gave all this information to time magazine you're just saying that to Obama how black are you when people would asked me actually mentioned that to a reporter actually because of the fact that he's half white and half black and I said, I'm sorry.

2:18:56Last time I checked, am I not allowed to be white too? Because there's this aspect of, I wasn't Hispanic enough because I'm white, but then also this aspect of I'm not white enough because I'm Hispanic. So like, which are you? Oh boy. That's so ridiculous. That's such a ridiculous thing to ask. It's like, it goes in the face of what's supposed to be about their principles. Their principles are supposed to be not seeing color at all. Oh, there's a lot. They're gonna attack you and say you're pretending to be Hispanic or that you're barely Hispanic enough. I'm not Hispanic enough. What percentage are you?

2:19:28I'm half. That's 50 fucking percent. I'm so crazy. And then I had to explain though to our quarter. I said, well, if my mom's half and my dad's half, what does that make me? And she goes a quarter. I said, no, that's not fair. I'm three quarters Italian. Imagine someone telling me that I'm not Italian. That's hilarious. That's so racist. That's such a crazy thing that they allow it as long as it's coming from their side. And also too, if I were on the other side, I'd probably be like a rock star. So long story short, so this article comes out. Time magazine investigates after doing like 20 something hours on background.

2:20:02I gave them all the evidence and they actually ended up writing an article on me called the influencer that came to Congress and then named me as Time magazine's next 100 most influential in the world. Well, that's nice of them. I'm just glad that it vindicated me because it was not a fun spot to be in. It's just weird. You know, I know that it's always going to be a part of politics, but it's so disappointing as in the lightened culture that we don't disavow that kind of reporting. But - And recognize from both sides how detrimental it is to finding out what's real and what's true. It's, um, it was done though because of the fact that people like me specifically don't meet a certain stereotype and so it was an effort to discredit that effort.

2:20:43Why did it? But it's like for people like wondering, you know why and so like I think most people are gonna know why they did it Yeah, it's pretty obvious But it's just bizarre that we allow it as long as it's from our side You know progressives will allow like the most devious behaviors from their side Republicans are the same thing Most devious shit as long as it's Beneficial to their side and that's what's really stupid and we need to disavow that you could disagree with someone Don't think they're the right person for the job vote against them. That's all great But when you start like deceiving people with false depictions of who a person is and making up a bunch of stupid shit and calling into question how Hispanic they are so ridiculous.

2:21:26Just stop. This is childish. It's like this shouldn't be where we're at in 2025. It shouldn't be where we're at as a mature nation. You know, we're 300 years old now. Figure it out. It was, I think it was actually for my mom, especially. Like, I've been through the ringer politics, so I'm kind of battle hard and for it. I'm like, oh, another hit piece, like I don't care. But it was my mom in what she was subjected to. And I was like, you know, my mom is really cool. Like, she put herself through law school when I was in high school. Like, she left an abusive marriage. She has come a long way. And so for her to be treated like that, I was like, it's just like one thing in politics.

2:22:01Like, it's also an animal. It's gross. And again, it's one of those things that we shouldn't tolerate. We shouldn't be doing it. We shouldn't advocate for it. We shouldn't be happy if it's done against the side that's ideologically opposed to us. It's gross. It's gross. It's gross as a civilized group of human beings that calls itself a country. It's gross. It's gross. There's other ways to do it. You don't have to just be a twat all the time. I prefer debating on ideology tends to be the best, but people always, it's like in fight it. You can't just go and suck or punch someone. It's kind of like the same thing and that was kind of, they tried to suck or punch me and I was like, that's also the Jackie Chan that I'm.

2:22:39You don't have to be fighting if you believe what you believe and you have a rational argument. You can have a conversation. And this seems to be something that people don't want to do anymore for some weird reason. They wanted to stick to what they think, stick to what they believe, and they don't want to hear a rational opposing viewpoint because they're so married or they're stupid ideas. It was, it's a lot interesting how Congress functions when the cameras are off. And I think people would definitely change their opinion because a lot of people will do it for clicks ratings and social media has not helped with that because people are looking for what can go viral nexus like this viral Theory that people you know they think that they can only be successful in their policy or their argument whether it's committee hearings or whatever they want that clip That they can post and they get no to write for so Social media has been both a blessing and a curse in the social media sphere because or in the political sphere because you can get your information out directly to the American people using it and refute bad information.

2:23:38But then there's also this aspect of like, I wish people could see the conversations that take place behind the scenes because it wouldn't be so inflammatory. Right. Basically what I'm saying. That makes sense. Well, full transparency will come with the chip. Anna, just put the chip in your brain. No chips. Don't take the chip. Everybody will have full transparency. It seems like this whole thing, your whole journey and becoming involved in politics has been pretty stressful. Is that? It's definitely not something I want my son to do. Is it what you thought it was, what did you think it was going to be like before you got in and what was different once you got in there?

2:24:15So when I first started out in politics, I started out as a, so I joined the military in 19. I paid my way through college. I wanted to be a doctor. So I got into a med school program at SU in Grenada and I was supposed to go to that and then I kid you not like the day before I was supposed to leave, I got recruited to work for a nonprofit to basically help lead out Hispanic activism nationally. And I thought that's how I could make a difference. And then I realized that as part of that job there, putting me on television, I had a booker. And so I was talking about stuff happening, but it was more the commentary on inflammatory things.

2:24:50I actually wanted to address what was happening with human trafficking. And I actually requested the State Department's report. I was a big activist with that. I was working with the nonprofit at the time and I realized that They only wanted me to talk about what was getting them the ratings and so I did realize I was like well They keep though talking about what people in DC are doing So if I want to change the discussion have to go to Washington to do it So I call my husband. I was like we're gonna run for office because what do you mean we? Yeah? Yeah, because what do you mean? I was like well from what I gather everyone's like a team effort and it's totally true If your spouse isn't on board good luck because politics is nasty And so he ended up basically figuring it out with me.

2:25:28And for someone like me, there's no how to manual or how to run from off. It's usually family, like literally family affairs where people like their parents did it or they have like a directed immediate tie to it. So I figured it out. And now that I'm in office, I'm realizing that I can make it an impact to an extent with some influence, but it would be a lot more helpful if there were 10 other of me. And so when I'm done in office, I'm going to help recruit younger candidates that have the ideological perspective, I do to run them. And then I'm going to help do things for them behind the scenes to help get them in.

2:26:04You're going to be a mastermind behind the scenes. It's a help. It just seems like a super broken process. It's not. So I've traveled a lot. I've seen a lot of other parliaments. I'm a member of the House Democracy Partnership Institute. I've gone to a lot of countries and we still have the best system. I believe that. Yeah, but we need. I believe that, but I still believe it's a mess. It's a mess though because good people don't want to run and they have to. Right. Young people have to run. It's also a mess because the people that have been in positions of power for so long or so set in their ways and are so deeply ingrained in the system and all the tentacles of all these different special interests and all the money that's all connected to all these decisions is so it's just so un it's I don't know if it's possible to unwind all that stuff.

2:26:55It is if you have enough fresh blood. So like how do you shock a system, right? And you need to infuse it. And so right now we have an interesting time period because we have a division. So like going back to kind of the declassification efforts that we've been working on. For the first time in US history you have an aspect of the government that's being transparent and releasing information and like we're helping wherever we can on that. But that is only possible because the right people with the right mindset were appointed in those agencies to be able to try to force the system to do something.

2:27:26But there's this aspect of that's just an executive branch but you have the legislative branch and the legislative branch needs younger people that want to do this because they truly believe in fixing the system and you and you cannot be a pessimist in this job or else you will go crazy. You would go crazy. So you have to be an optimist and understand that there is a solution for it and going back to kind of like there's like little quantum bread crumbs I've had enough stuff happen where I know I'm on the right path But I also think that you know part of what I'm supposed to is like to help other people do this So I'm gonna help kind of execute that mission.

2:27:59How much longer are you gonna be in office? I don't know but not definitely in the next 10 years I promise you I'm gonna be with a beekeeper in a flip phone and that's it No internet just talk to grit well if I'm still doing a podcast then Tell me about that. Hopefully then we'll know UFOs are real. They're already landed. At least we get some declassified stuff, right? Hopefully you will. I put no cool. Remember back when we didn't know who killed J .F .K.? Yeah, well now we know. Well, thank you very much for being here. Really appreciate it. It was fun, Bob. Thank you. Bye, everybody.