#2386 - The Red Clay Strays

31:59A lot of it came from us not feeling good Drew and my brother Matthew are the main writers for the band.

32:09And, you know, they just – our song Drowning, Drew wrote that during COVID when we were driving for Uber trying to keep the bills paid. My goal was to make$100 a day for Uber. And driving for Uber in Mobile, Alabama sucks. I'd have to do like 12, 14 hours a day to get that. To get$100. Yeah, and then most of the time spend – So that was just five years ago? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And we were locally famous at the time, so I was picking up people. And they were like, oh, my God, Red Clay Strays. You know what I mean? Get in. Hop in. Really? I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, dude. Make sure to leave a tip.

32:45Dude. That's crazy. I picked up, like, and I was driving a Hyundai Sonata, and I picked up, like, five black dudes they wanted to get in the Hyundai Sonata to go to the stripper club. And I was like, all five of y 'all can't fit in here. I can only take like four at the most. So they had to leave one behind. And I had to take them like 30 minutes across town. That's what a mobile is. Everything is like a 30-minute drive. And so I took them 30 minutes across town to the stripper club. There's some very interesting people at nighttime who get Ubers, just so you know. I'm sure. Yeah. And they probably want to talk to you.

33:20Sometimes. The worst was people with bad BO. Oh. Get in your car with bad BO? And then leave it? I'm like a— And leave that smell in your car? I'm like a germ freak. Are you really? Sometimes, yeah. And especially with smells. I can't get like a fresh air. I feel like I'm suffocating. And this frat guy got in my car one time and he was something. And he was going to Lowe's to get like something for a beer pong table. He was getting ready to have a frat party and I had to drive him to Lowe's. And he smelled like he had never taken a shower. And so I was just trying not to freak out. I was just like, what do you mean like that?

33:57Damn. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I was sweating by the time he got out of the car.

34:06Dry heaving up front. Driving 100 miles an hour to get him out the car. I'd pick some people up. Oh, people just put too much faith in Uber drivers. I'd pick up people from the hospital. I picked up a blind lady from the hospital. That's what they do if they don't have any family. They'll call them. They'll get them an Uber. And I had to help this blind lady get into her house. I picked up this one guy fresh out of surgery. He couldn't walk. I had to get him in my car. And they got him a hotel, I guess, so I had to take him to the hotel. And I had to carry him out of my car and get him in his bed.

34:39And I was just thinking, what if this wasn't me? Right. What if it was an 80-pound lady? Yeah. Yeah, or just somebody who didn't even care. Get out of my car, you know? That kind of blew my mind a little bit, how much faith hospitals put in Uber drivers. It was very sad. But one thing I found out during COVID that it sounds so stupid that I didn't know this, but hospitals are private businesses. I used to this is how naive I was. I was like, well, doctors, they go to universities. They do it so that they can become the best doctor they can. And then they work for these hospitals that are set up so that all the people in the city have medical care.

35:17And this is like part of the city services. I really believe that. I really thought that. And then I have some friends that are doctors and they would tell me, no, no, no, not only that, you're incentivized. You're incentivized to push certain medications. You're incentivized to do surgeries that maybe people don't need and you have to challenge your own ethics. Because you'll be talked into doing surgeries that this guy, you kind of could justify it, but really he shouldn't get it. I'm like, oh, fuck, man, really? And then, you know, I've had friends that left and started their own practices because of this.

35:50because they tell you, like, you just, at the end of the day, like, why did I go to school? Like, I thought I was going to school because I wanted to learn medicine because I thought that would be a really fascinating way to make a living and very rewarding. You're helping people that are injured, that are sick. And then he got just enlightened to, like, what the business really is. It's just about numbers. Yeah. He got sick. Instagram reels will scare you, too, about all that stuff. Oh, dude, I went down a rabbit hole last night Just sitting in my bed. I shouldn't have done this. It was like nine o 'clock There's no reason for me to look at dick lengthening videos It just popped up on Instagram, you know in like the for you section Yeah, dude.

36:38Stay away from that I didn't ask for it. I don't know what happened. How many videos did you watch? Oh, I watched a lot of them I watched hours worth of it. It's fucking horrific man three inches of hidden penis It's not just that man. It's like they're these guys are getting these things put in their dick so that the dicks are thicker Oh my god. See the thing about YouTube is YouTube. You want to see some videos? Yeah, might as well. We're here so I'll pull up my history YouTube can actually so the thing is this guy was like go to my YouTube video and you can see the actual Surgeries I'm like no fucking way and yeah fucking way YouTube will actually show you the surgery we can't show any of this on camera right Jamie

37:29These dudes are just digging they're just digging in dicks and then and is just horrific All right, yeah once you get on that dark side of uh of Instagram usually it's when Brandon sends me reels Brandon always be finding himself on that bad part and then he sends it to me and then I'm 30 minutes deep into Feeling uncomfortable with my life Why isn't this showing up in my I don't really want to fuck up my algorithm by looking for this Alright, we don't have to You guys can trust me So This is an ad by BetterHelp When you have a problem, when you're feeling down, it's nice having someone to turn to Like a partner who can cheer you up, a friend to vent to, a parent who can give you advice Even having a nice conversation with a stranger can be uplifting.

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39:45And I'm like, what is that? I'm like, is this guy operating on a dick? Is this what's going on here? So it's like this plastic sheet, this flexible stuff that looks like a fillet. And he's like dunking it in this stuff. I don't know what this liquid is. It's like there's a dark liquid and a clear liquid. And this guy's explaining he's going to have so much more confidence. He's going to have so much more girth. And I'm like, no fucking way. You're getting your dick operated on. This is crazy. Like, if you have to get your dick operated on, like, okay, I got to do this. I can't believe I got to do this.

40:22But I got a dick problem. Some people sign up for it. I got a dick cancer or something. Like, the dick has to get fixed. I got to get it fixed. This is just regular dicks that people like I'm not happy with my dick. I Wish my dick was hard all the time And so one of the guys like his dick was like eight inches flaccid all the time Because he had this fucking tube stuck in there this fucking PVC pipe that they had stuffed into his hog And it's just and so in YouTube because it's medical they could show you so the guy just drops his shorts I'm like no And these guys get this Franken-penis. And by the way, he's got the head of a little dick, but the body of a giant dick.

41:07So it's like they took a guy who's got a little tiny body, and they popped his head off and put it on a bodybuilder's body. Jesus Christ. How do you deal with that on a daily basis? Well, this fellow seems like he was getting a lot of play. Good for him, dude. He was in the rainbow community, and it seemed like he was just slinging that dick all over town and quite happy that it never got soft. Quite literally laying pipe. Yeah, literally. Literally piping. Oh, Jesus, Jamie. It's a banana. That's a banana. Okay. All right. They're showing how they do it with a banana. Well, what is this one? This is a fat injection, and this guy, he was dismissing fat injections.

41:50Like, fat injections are nonsense. All right. You need the plastic. I think I would pass out. You wouldn't even need to do. You probably wouldn't be awake. Yeah, you wouldn't need anesthesia on me because I would pass out. And then one guy, they install. Oh, that's crazy too. Legs extending. They break their legs and they stretch it out. There's a guy that I've been watching. What is it, Brian the Sasquatch? That's his new Instagram? The guy was already six feet tall, but he wanted to be six foot. And he's a gigantic dude, like built like a brick shithouse. And he got his legs stretched out like a year and a half ago.

42:23He still hasn't recovered. Yeah. I imagine not. But your mechanics are all off. So if you were an athlete and you were used to having legs of a six-foot man and now your legs have grown six inches. Like you're... Your arms aren't going to be proportionate either. Well, he had very long arms. Unusually long arms. So does it look proportionate? Totally looks normal. Looks like he's just a giant dude. For him. But for other people, yeah, it looks fucking weird. This is the guy. So this is him trying to jump ropes now. Oh, wow. It's like he can barely walk. But look at the size of this motherfucker.

42:56So he's got kind of, like, this is him now. His knees aren't even. No, he's all messed up. That's why he's got knee braces on. I'm sure his knees are super confused. Like, he can barely walk. What are we doing to ourselves? I mean, do you think eventually you would get the strength in the right places? Yes, eventually. There's a guy, we looked up this one guy who did it. Remember that one guy who was running those athletic drills? Sprinting. He was doing sprinting and plyometrics. Some people have to do it, but I don't think he gained six inches. This guy gained like half a foot. Look, they're going to get to the point where with CRISPR, they're just going to edit your genes, and there's going to be no normal-looking people anymore.

43:35All the interesting personality quirks that you have to develop because you've got a weird chin, all that shit's going to go away. It's getting weird, man. They're trying to get rid of Down syndrome. Yeah. Well, probably a good idea. That wouldn't be terrible. Listen, I mean, there's nothing wrong. It's they're sweet people, you know my friend Shane He's got family members that are down syndrome and he loves them very dearly but if you Could do that and they could be normal functioning members of society. That would be a better thing Just delete that gene. Yeah, manipulate it. They're gonna be able to do that They're gonna do a lot of things then we're gonna be birth and super babies once they like it all the things usually always seem like They start good and then they go really bad and then we're creating super humans in the womb We're at the cusp of some really, really wild shit with AI and with genetic engineering.

44:26With China? I read something where they're trying to grow babies in an artificial womb now. See, that's where ethics gets a little weird because then you're playing God then. Well, there's something that happens. There's communication between the mother and the child through the entire time. So are you giving birth to a fucking sociopath? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because this baby is not going to get any love, no oxytocin. There's nothing from the mother. There's no bond with the mother. When the mother's stressed, the baby feels stressed. Some of the mother's brain, something from their brain goes into the baby.

44:57100%. There's a lot going. There's communication. This is why the mother has to be up on her nutrients because the baby's taking nutrients from the mother. And if the mother doesn't have enough, the baby is taking it from the mother. So it's like an artificial womb. It's like you're opening the door for Satan. If you believe in that, if you want a soulless, bizarrely unempathetic person, what better way than have no connection? That was one of the things that happened to the Unabomber. The Unabomber, I watched the Netflix documentary on him, and one of the things that happened to him when he was young, he had some sort of a disease where he had to be separated from his mom, and they put him in a hospital with no contact.

45:42He had no for a prolonged period of time as a baby. No one picked him up No one held him no nothing for a long long time and then Is it that wasn't fucked up enough? They entered in him into the Harvard LSD studies And then so he was in the Harvard LSD studies and he was there were this is during the MK ultra period So the MK ultra period they were doing all sorts of experiments with people through the CIA One of the things they were doing was a thing called Operation Midnight Climax, where they opened up brothels in San Francisco. And they would put two-way mirrors in, and they would dose these Johns up with LSD.

46:25So the ladies of the night were actually working for the CIA, and they would go in, here, have a drink. And the guy would have a drink, and the next thing you know, he's like, whoa. Wow. And they were just trying to experiment and see. This was also a part of what the Charles Manson family was about. And they were doing all kinds of shit with people where they're trying to figure out what can we do to humans? Yeah We can manipulate them with LSD and they did it to Kaczynski and we saw what happened with him and Tuskegee Alabama with the syphilis back in the day. Well, that was even more evil I was seeing what would happen.

46:58Yeah, well, it's still like human experimenting with yes out them knowing yes It's a very scary situation Well, it just goes back to what we were talking about with medicine that there are people that are willing to do things to people that are just entirely evil for profit for whatever justification they can come up with. No value for human life. None. None. And I think one of the problems with doctors and my friend who's a doctor told me this like you just get numb when you see too many people die. It's a very dangerous state of mind because you just see someone, you're like, well, he's going to die.

47:37And then you go have a sandwich. We're getting numb as a society of seeing people die. Well, the Charlie Kirk thing fucking opened up my eyes. Yeah. I never expected so many people would celebrate that man's murder. That is evil. That's bizarre. It's just bizarre. Like normal people that I think think they're good people. And they think they genuinely think that guy was a bad guy and I don't think they're right And I think they were indoctrinated and I don't agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said or did I don't care if he was a bad guy. He's not a bad guy. I don't want to see him. I don't see anybody die First of all, he's fucking your age, right?

48:13Yeah, he's a young guy, right? And he Would go around college campuses and have arguments with people or have discussions with people have debates with people but it infuriated put people because they felt like this guy is going against the progress that was being made in society. But what he did not feel like was progress. Like it was a progressive agenda that was being pushed in most college campuses. It's a leftist, Marxist sort of agenda. He didn't feel like that was the correct way to live. And he felt like he had arguments against it. And it was, you know, it's a business too, right? Like he developed this big social media platform because of it.

48:55And I, you know, I don't, like I said, I don't agree. I don't think some of the things he said he should have said. But the fact that people were cheering when he died, normal people, housewives, moms, like fucking people working at banks, people working at various industries, celebrating a man getting shot in front of his kids in front of the whole world. That's evil. What the fuck is wrong with us? Yeah, that's that's evil. I don't know. I think it really made me feel extra weird, too, because it was an innocent man. I'll give some leniency. You know, maybe they're doing a public execution of, like, a mass murderer or a child rapist.

49:36You know, something like that. But seeing an innocent man trying to have a conversation get shot in front of his kids and people celebrate that, it made me feel a certain way. Yeah, it was not justice. But I think people are poisoned by social media. I really, really firmly believe that. I think social media has people completely twisted, and I think a lot of what has people completely twisted is not even organic. I think it's all on purpose that you're being manipulated by foreign governments, by bot farms, and by various elements, either in our government or other governments. And they do it for their own agenda, for their own ends, and it's dark.

50:17There's a Proverbs verse. I can't remember where it's at, but it's like, he who doesn't find me harms himself, and he who loves death hates me. And that, you know, if you love God and you can't love death, you can't love somebody getting killed. Right. That's just, there's the line right there. There's evil and good right there. Yeah. And so there's no justification for that. And we actually, because we've always made a point in the band to not get political. We don't care what your politics are. We just come listen to our music and come have fun at our show. We don't care. Every one of us in the band, originally, we all have different views politically and religiously in some type of way.

51:01But we managed to be brothers and, you know, being a band together. So I've just gotten, and I love a good political talk, but lately I've just been so jaded from it. And I don't want to ever divide my fan base or anything. You know, how you vote or how you believe is none of my business. We are here to entertain you. And so I never want to use my platform to do that. But we got so sick of seeing people put politics above humanity. We actually wrote a song about it in April in the studio called People Hatin'. And that's we wouldn't going to put it out as a single. At first, we were going to do another another song.

51:43But after the Charlie Kirk thing, it's just like, hey, we got together. We were like, I think we need to put people hating out instead for the first single, because it's just we've got to start. We've got to stop killing each other over beliefs and stop hating each other over beliefs. You know, it's fucking insane. Everybody's race is different. Everybody's experiencing life different. And everybody's trying to figure it out the same as you are. And it's just really weird now. It's really weird and it's celebrated to hate people. And that's that's the weird part. And most of us know that that's wrong.

52:14And that's why like when this Charlie Kirk thing happens, there's a giant blowback. And most people recognize like, hey, as a collectively, as as a society, this is not right. Regardless of whoever that person is, whether that person's on the left or the right, they just got shot in front of the whole world. this is it's not a thing to celebrate ever and especially when you're seeing people on the left that are supposed to be progressives these are supposed to be the kind compassionate inclusive people that are celebrating gun violence public execution like that's insane this episode is brought to you by the smashing machine from a24 dwayne the rock johnson and academy award nominee Emily Blunt star in The Smashing Machine in theaters everywhere October 3rd.

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54:31That's a public assassination. That's insane. Yeah. I mean, you can't be against guns and then celebrate when someone is killed by a gun. Yeah. No, it doesn't make any sense. But that hypocrisy is just a symptom of where we find ourselves. We're we're all just so many of us are confused because of the rhetoric online And again a lot of that's not normal. It's not organic. It's not real It's not real people and it's not what you would ever get in real social circles of healthy people Yeah, you're only getting it through this very bizarre Filter of just text on social media and videos where someone's just talking to the camera celebrating on social media It's like it's very strange.

55:16Most of the time you walk around because we travel all over the place. And most of the time when you walk around, stop watching the news, get off your phone and just walk around in society. Yeah. It's really, really not that bad. It's not that bad. And that is the key. But most people are not going to get off their phone. Yeah. And that's what's fucked. Most people, most people are just fully hooked on that damn thing. You think it's weird now. Wait till all these, wait till all these iPhone babies grow up and all these tablet babies grow up. Oh, yeah. Have you seen the videos of taking the tablets away and the babies are, like, freaking out and having withdrawals and stuff?

55:47Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're being raised with it. Our generation was probably the last to not have – I mean, we didn't have technology growing up. We had dial-up internet, and we didn't get that until I was, you know, already through middle school. I didn't have a smartphone until I was 16. We still have an Android. Yeah, dude, but that's better. All right, buddy. Why are you an Android guy? I've always been an Android guy because I was – We'll see you next time.

56:40I'll give you some. shops in the strip mall. It was Android. I never really got into the... I never cared, first of all, what phone people have. It's you guys who care. Oh my gosh. It's a weird thing in our society where if a kid has an Android phone, they're looked down on. Yeah, dude. It's so weird. Something like 80 plus percent of kids have iPhones. Man, it was after a show one time. It was after a show one time, a long time ago. And I was talking to this girl. This was like way back in the day. And she's like, yeah, maybe we get your number. And then I pulled out my phone. She's like, oh, you have an Android?

57:23I just walked off. Just walked off. She didn't like you anymore? Green bubble. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that's weird. Isn't that weird? It's weird. It's weird, but it's like it just shows you how easy people fall into tribes. Yeah. You know? Over anything. What we were just talking about. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Even down to the phone. If you have something different than somebody, they automatically don't like you. It can be religion. It can be politics. It can be the dang phone in your pocket. Yep. When the iPhone babies grow up, they're going to be killing each other over phones. What about the Android babies?

57:56We just want to be left alone, man. See, there's the identity. It's a rebel's phone. Oh, a rebel's phone. If you choose it. If you choose it, it's a rebel's phone. If it chooses you, it's like, one day I want to get a fucking iPhone. Get out of this job. I'm going to get a real job, and I'm going to get an iPhone. But the people that choose it, they're the rebels. I'm glad I married an iPhone user. I'll tell you that. I'm glad my wife has an iPhone, and we can send cool emojis. See, you say that. I married an iPhone user, and I don't care if she has an iPhone. That's great. You're glad that you married an iPhone user.

58:30I don't care that I married an iPhone user. I love her anyway. It feels like you're trying to be superior over him now. Exactly. By virtue of calling. Brandon's just like the left. Calling out your superiority complex. He's being superior. Just can't win with these people. Oh, yeah. Now he's playing victim. He wants to say it's an American company, but they're made in China. Well, the owner, Tim, what's his name? You don't even know. He is from where we are from. I'm supporting a local. Now, has he ever put an Apple store in Mobile, Alabama? Absolutely not. Do we deserve one? Probably not. We don't.

59:02It'll get robbed, dude. Maybe the phone should be made in America one day. Yeah. But American company? Well, if they made in America. I always said that if they made an American phone that had like a little American flag on the back, but it cost$200 more I would buy it Yeah, me too. Who do you think is gonna make it? Well, it would have to be a company that start The problem is that the goal of doing that is a long goal Like you would have to develop the chips you'd have to have a plant like Samsung tried to put in a they were putting a microchip plant in Texas and They had giant issues because they weren't getting enough like so So all of them don't meet their standards, and a certain percentage of them weren't, and it was a much lower standard than they needed.

59:45And so it didn't work out. And you're spending billions and billions of dollars to find out that you can't do it. So in China, they've got that shit perfected. They've been doing it for so long because we've relied on them for so long. Don't they have their own phone as well? Oh, they have a lot of phones. I forgot what it's called. They have a special Chinese phone. Well, Huawei, because they were banned here, so Google and Apple wouldn't let them use their operating systems because it's basically a spy device. But guess what? So are all of them. If you're hanging around with me, your fucking phone's bugged.

1:00:18That's always been something that does not bother me personally. I don't have anything to hide, first of all. What about your DMs? The problem is not that. Well, the problem is not you having something to hide. The problem is no one should have access to your private information. Whether or not it's bad, that shouldn't mean anything. No one should have access. No, they should not. Because it's an individual. No individual should be able to look at your phone. You can't look at theirs. It's a power thing. It's a control thing. But you can guarantee the government's got everything. Oh, it's not just the government.

1:00:53It's foreign governments, especially if you're a controversial person. Like foreign governments, there's a thing called Pegasus, too. All they need is your phone number. That's all they need. So if you're not using encrypted apps All they need is your phone number and even if you are using encrypted apps the government can get into those You know when Tucker Carlson was trying to interview Putin the government contacted him and said we know you're trying to interview Putin we were looking in your signal app and he's like what wow you can read my fucking signal app Yeah, so it's just like the government's laying back off China spying on Americans is our job Well, because of the Patriot Act and because of a lot of other things that they've passed in this country, a lot of it's legal.

1:01:33They're allowed to. They're allowed to spy on you. I think they can make it illegal and we still wouldn't know. Well, it probably would be illegal, but it wouldn't matter. They would find some sort of a fucking loophole. Or they'd pass some bill. They'd stick it in some farm bill, something. We think, oh, this is good. We're going to help the farmers. And you look in there like, hey, what's this doing in there? Yeah, there's some stuff in the Big Beautiful Bill where it's like they were trying to sell some national park land or something. Yes, yes. They were trying to sell public land. It was a part of the Big Beautiful Bill.

1:02:05Yeah, I was one of the people that was trying very hard to try to get that out of there. I remember that. It's fucking sick. I thought that was illegal. It should be. Foreign countries owning land. It should be. They're trying to change laws. That's the thing. Like foreign countries owning land around military bases. That's crazy. That's weird, too. Where was yeah, why is that happening? Can't do that in China? Meanwhile China owns land around military bases. Yeah, there's a lot of stupidity with our freedom But that doesn't mean the government should be fucking spying on you The thing is in other countries they just are like in China They just are and you know and the argument is if we want to compete with China We have to do what they're doing which I think is insane aren't they about to start or they already have the social Point system social credit score.

1:02:51Yeah, social credit score. Oh, yeah Yeah, so if you jaywalk and they get a photo of your face, so they have biometrics They get a photo of your face. They know it's you you think it's ding now. You can't buy a plane ticket Mmm. Yeah black mirror stuff. Yeah. Oh, it's just like reality Well, they're passing that in the UK right now in the UK digital ID to combat ready for it illegal immigration Well motherfucker you let the illegal immigrants in on purpose like you guys knew what you were doing and now you're using it as a justification for digital ID. I just watched one this morning actually about, it was a British judge, a guy got sentenced.

1:03:25I saw that, yeah. For however many years for a social media post. 20 months, social media post. 20 months for a social media post. It was about immigration. It's complaining about immigration. It's wild. Yeah, it's wild. It's crazy. And, you know, it's the best way to control people, you know, and keep them at each other's throats. like bring in a bunch of people that the people that live there don't want there and let them duke it out and then start instituting tighter and tighter restrictions and control yeah i see i see all that happening and it always makes me wonder i wonder how it's going to go down here because we are the different ones with the with the guns and stuff i wonder how far it's going to go here before something happens something pops off they're gonna try yeah you know they're gonna They're going to try and they're going to keep trying.

1:04:13They're going to continue to try and they're going to try to sneak it in. And if it's not for independent journalists that call that shit out, we would be in real trouble. It would have already happened. It would have already happened. They were trying to institute a vaccine passport. And the vaccine passport would be attached to a digital ID so that you would know. But that digital ID would then be transferred to a social credit score. And then they wanted to do a carbon tax. So they want to do a thing that tracks your carbon. So it tracks how many miles you drive, tracks your purchases, so it tracks how much carbon you're contributing to the environment.

1:04:50It's crazy. And somehow paying more money will stop that. Oh, yeah, that's what we need to do. You just need to tax people more. Tax people more. It's all going to come and make normal in the end. It'll be perfect. Utopia. Farmer with cows, you've got to pay taxes on those cows because they're farting. Because they're farting. Well, how about in other countries? They're killing cows. They're forcing them to kill cows because cows are producing too much methane. So they're saying you have to kill 2 ,000 cows, 1 ,000 cows. Wow. Food. Yeah, so they control your food. That's exactly what it is. I remember when all those chicken houses burned down a couple years ago.

1:05:24Yeah. That was really weird, too. Yeah, it's real weird. But the chicken houses do burn down. What's also weird is they had to kill a bunch of chickens because some of these chickens had bird flu. Yeah. Well, hopefully that's true. Was there a couple of livestocks, Brandon, popping up dead, too? A bunch of cattle? That was a couple years ago. This one farmer posted a video. All of his cattle were just dead in the field. And they said it was because of the heat or something. But this farmer had just tons of dead cows just all of a sudden. It was going on the same time as the chicken house was burning down.

1:05:56So it could have just been news adding on to news kind of thing. This is what's in right now. Maybe it's aliens. Yeah, maybe so. Cattle mutilation. The alien thing is just another interesting topic. Like, you see, I'll get random, there's random times where people are seeing all these crazy things in the sky, and it's like a big deal for a few days, and then you don't really talk about it anymore. Did you see that one thing that lady was filming? She was like, hi, do you know Jesus? The wheels were, like, going crazy. No, what is that? It's like a... It's also hard to know what's real. Yeah, I know.

1:06:30Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, and the interesting thing about that though is that somebody in the Bible described seeing something, one of the angels or something. Ezekiel. Yeah, the wheels on wheels. Wheel within a wheel. That's what this thing was. And she said, do you know Jesus? And then the wheels would just start spinning really, really fast. And I was like, whoa, man, I hope that's real. That's pretty cool. Oh man, is this it? Yeah. That looks like a rocket launch. I knew I can, but my fingers don't work. She zooms in on an orb and speaks to it She says Jesus loves me She's definitely of an android It's gonna turn into the moon here in a second Watch

1:07:15Well that's the thing If you zoom in on stuff Especially stuff through the atmosphere Things look very blurry Like if you zoom in on stars They totally look like they're some sort of a fucking spaceship It's just a star when she says do you know Jesus it starts like starts moving I think it's towards the end but yeah you get the idea it's just that looks like kind of looks like a weather balloon maybe it's one of them Chinese spy balloons again let me hear her say it Jesus loves me look look look look oh you know Jesus you know Jesus You know Jesus. Jesus is awesome, isn't he? Yeah, Jesus rocks.

1:08:02But if that is real, dude, and that random lady just filming that. Well, that is the weirdness of the people that think that they can call these things in. So there's a group of people that supposedly successfully, they sit out and they have this intention. They go out into the desert in a clear night sky and they have this intention to call these things in. And they're all silently calling these things in. And apparently it's effective. Occasionally, I don't know how often, but it's not zero. Sometimes these things show up. Who's that guy? He was on Sean Ryan. He's an old man, Chris something.

1:08:40But people like celebrities go out to his land, and he's like, I can call these things on command. And they'll show up, and people go out to see it. Yeah. I don't know about all that. Yeah. It's hard. You should go there. You should go there. Investigate. I don't want to. People will trust what you say. Yeah, but the problem is I don't know what I'm seeing. Well, don't tell anybody. Just go out for yourself. The thing is, you don't know what you're seeing. It could be a drone. It could be anything. It could be fucking Starlink. Do you have the pay to go do it? That's a good question. I can't remember that guy's name.

1:09:13It's driving me crazy. He wrote a book called UFOs of God. I started listening to it. I'm just terrible about reading books and stuff, so I got the first three chapters in. But it was really interesting. He's worked with NASA showed up at his house. Here it is. Chris Bledsoe. Yeah. I watched his Sean Ryan, I think the guy's name is. I watched his podcast. It was an interesting lesson. And so this guy, what does he think these things are? They're related with God somehow. This is what Tucker believes. Yeah. I believe it too. A lot of people believe that these things are not from another world that they're they've always been here Yeah, and they're a part of our world that just don't show themselves to us Does this guy have videos of these things watch this with an open heart?

1:10:05Okay? Show me what you got Okay, something moving. Oh There's a lot Okay, what the book is that? I Think you should go out there and take him out. Just don't tell anybody that could be bugs In the sky in Austin all the time. Yeah, but that thing moving across the sky, that is odd. That's different. That thing's very odd because that's clearly moving. I mean, you see flashes. But the thing is it's like you're zooming in, right, so you get distortion. So you don't know, and see it's going behind the cloud. You don't know what that is. Have you ever seen the space station flyover? Have you seen the space station flyover?

1:10:46Yeah, I've seen it once. I've seen pictures of it before. Does it look like that? Yeah, it's really slow moving. Yeah, it's just a tiny little dog. It's usually just one, though. Well, the rest of that stuff kind of looks like bugs. Probably bugs. Yeah, that looks like bugs. From the backyard. That's the problem is that, like, if you're zooming in on this thing, the stuff that flies in between that looks like it's moving really fast and flying across incredible space. Yeah, that easily could be bugs. Especially if you're like... But maybe not. That's the problem. them interdimensional angelic beings is that what he's calling them that's what it says there's more i'd like to see some documentation my dad was go out there dude wait to the end what happens in the end it goes behind the cloud oh they simply come when i when we ask in prayer countenance others were healed too joe just go out there and see it and don't tell anybody I don't want to waste my time.

1:11:44I feel like if they want to show themselves, they should just go ahead and do it. Yeah. I think they will eventually maybe if it's going to happen. Maybe if things get real messy here. Yeah. We'll find out. Isn't there verses about there will be signs in the sky? I don't know. Well, there's a lot of verses about the sky. I've been into the Book of Enoch over the last couple of months. Yeah, I was wanting to pull that up. I was wanting to talk about that. So Rep Lima came in here and she was explaining to me the book of Enoch and I never really got into it. She's like, you know, it could have been included in the Bible and it was a part of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

1:12:18But the first half was right. Well, the book of Enoch is in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The whole book? Yeah. And the at least part is the problem with the book of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Rather, it's a lot of it is deteriorated and missing chunks and stuff. But the book of Isaiah is in the Dead Sea Scrolls and it is identical word for word. Wes Huff was explaining that to a version of it that was a thousand years older, which was the most recent version before they found the Dead Sea Scrolls in the 1940s, which is wild. That's the book that God predicts his own coming to Earth and his own death and all that.

1:12:53Well, the Book of Enoch is the one that predicts that this is what talks about the watchers in the sky and that these gods made with humans and created the Nephilim. That is bizarre. Well, I've listened to it twice now and I keep going back over it and just rewinding and going, what are they saying? Like, what what were they trying to describe? Because this sounds completely insane. When you get into like the because isn't there like Egyptian stuff where there's like men coming down from space and like Stargate is that's all sorts of weird shit. That to me is just like fallen angels. You know, it's all kind of lining up in some kind of way or another.

1:13:37These whatever rebelled against God and came down here, men from the sky came down here and were pretty much posing as gods and demanding people worship them. And isn't Enoch where they teach them about money and teach them about sorcery, sorcery and sorcery and agriculture and metallurgy. There's all sorts of like weird, they talk about incantations and then like how to get out of incantations. If one gets put on you, it's like. And you got to think this is pre-Jesus. And so God is separated from man. So we're just walking around as people like not knowing what's going on. And these things come down and they're boring giants and stuff.

1:14:17It's like, you know, I'd probably think it's a God too, for God's sakes, you know, because there wasn't. was the Jews even a thing when the book of Enoch was written? Sure, yeah. The God's chosen people? The people that argued over whether or not the book of Enoch should be included in the canon were rabbis. It's all so confusing. Is there any explanation of why it would be left out? Well, they felt like it didn't jive with the Torah. I think that's the reason why it was left out. Well, I mean, when I say that But at one point, the Jews were God's chosen people. They knew the God, the I am, the one true God.

1:15:00But the rest of the world didn't really know what was going on. And so they were worshiping other gods. So aside from the Jews, the rest of humanity, seeing these things walking around, it's like, I'm sure they would think that's a God. I'm sure they would worship that. What else do they have to believe? Well, something did come and visit ancient humans. I'm in the middle of this Richard Dolan book, and it's a very interesting book on UFOs. And Richard Dolan, who's a very, like, objective, scientifically minded author, one of the things he's talking about is this gene expression. It's a deal that started this gene.

1:15:44It was introduced through breeding. So one of the things that we know is that it came into the human population somewhere around 40 ,000 years ago. And that this all geneticists agree that this was introduced through crossbreeding. So the idea was, was it introduced by Neanderthals? Was it introduced by Denisovans? Like what type of human? Well, the problem is they don't find that gene expression in any other ancient human. Like they don't find it in Neanderthals. They don't find it. But they do find it in Asia, like in Mongolia. Most people have it. The rest of the world, it's like 70 % of the people have it.

1:16:25And they think it's responsible for creativity. They think it's responsible for this giant change in the artwork that people start producing around 40 ,000 years ago. and his assertion or his question, the hypothesis is that it was introduced by some other species. And this is also part of what is talked about, not just in the book of Enoch, but also in the Sumerian text, they talk about what happened that created human beings. And so what he's talking about is this one woman that was an academic, I forget her name, but she wrote these books about it where she believes that human beings are some sort of a hybrid species and that we were genetically manipulated to be what we are now.

1:17:11And I think going back to the flood, because like every other religion has some type of evidence of a great flood, correct? Yeah. So at one point or another, if God's creation did get corrupt, that was pretty much the great reset of um i've got a he had to get rid of all that that he didn't create and uh i forgot where i was going with that but yeah well they do all have a flood myth and now now because of the younger dryas impact theory we know that there most likely was massive floods all over the earth somewhere around 11 800 years ago yeah and i just think about stuff like that when they find this skull that they can't link anything to or find stuff that doesn't they can't link anything to it's like we don't really know what happened a long time ago we can pretend that we did but i personally believe there was a an advanced civilization way back in the day before all that and there's a lot of evidence that points to that yeah yeah there there's also new evidence that just uh emerged out of china they found a homo sapien skull that's one million years old Well, it's China.

1:18:26Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's still, it's like, it's an actual homo sapien skull that was carbon dated to a million years old. So that predates what we thought of as the emergence of homo sapiens by 500 ,000 years. And that's just what we found, right? They might find another one six months from now that's two million years old. So like, they don't really know. We're piecing things together. We're piecing the past together with a very limited amount of information, very limited evidence. and evidence of fossils, it's very difficult to make a fossil. Most fossils, they just don't happen. The animals eat the bones.

1:19:02The bones deteriorate in the sun. There's a very specific set of circumstances that has to happen for something to be fossilized. Haven't they found some fossils with, like, grass still in their mouth? And so they were wondering how could—they found some type of evidence of fossils where it seems like this animal was fossilized instantly. Yes. Well, not even fossilized, just preserved instantly. Like this is woolly mammoths. There's quite a few of them. Yeah, they think a lot of that was what happened during the impact. So Randall Carlson talks about this quite a bit. There's multiple places on Earth where there's a large number of animals that seem to have died instantaneously.

1:19:42instantaneously and weirdly like with broken legs like broken mammoth legs string like over like a large field of them thousands of them there like what happened like some sort of an event must have happened where they were wiped out or the ones that were in this area were wiped out instantaneously and he thinks it's probably some sort of a collision like a well it's a mass casualty of some sort yeah i mean what else can cause that well not only that 65 percent something like that of all north American megafauna died off at the exact same time, all of it around that same younger dry, same bacteria time between 11 ,800 years ago and 10 ,000 years ago.

1:20:21Everything, woolly mammoth, African lion, African cheetah, there was all sorts of giant sloths, all sorts of weird animals that all died off in America around the exact same time that they think this flood happened. and it used to be just complete speculation but now they find core samples whether they're finding iridium which indicates iridium is very common in space and very rare on earth so when they find a layer of iridium it indicates some sort of an impact of course interesting it's wild shit man because it could happen to us at any moment you know there's this guy avi lobe who's a professor out of harvard who is saying that some of these objects that we're seeing in space They're moving in very bizarre ways.

1:21:05They're enormous. They have much more mass and much more speed. They're interstellar objects, and he's speculating whether or not they're alien. You got one passing by pretty soon, right? I've been following that one a little bit. Yeah, this is one of the ones he's talking about. They think it's a spaceship. They think it's something. You know, whatever it is. For it to come outside of our solar system on this path is just very bizarre. Very bizarre, but other astronomers say, yeah, but it just might be unique. Like there's a lot of stuff in space they're finding through the James Webb telescope that they didn't understand.

1:21:40So they had this idea of the universe being 13.7 or whatever it is, billion years old. But now they're finding these galaxies that were formed far too quickly, like after the Big Bang. And so now they're starting to say, well, this might be an indication that it's quite a bit older and that maybe it's not 13. Maybe the Big Bang is not 13.7 billion years, but that's just as far back as we can look. And as they get better and better equipment and better and better ways of looking, they'll be able to find more evidence and more information that gives them more questions and less answers. It's really weird.

1:22:18It's like there's a quote by Dennis McKenna, and he said that once the bonfire of knowledge expands, the surface layer of ignorance is exposed. More of a surface layer. So the more you see and the more you learn, the more you realize, oh, I don't know shit. And that's what they're kind of finding out about space. It's like they know a lot, but they don't know a lot in comparison to what's out there. More questions pop up than answers. Yeah, I mean, it's fucking, it might be. It's just wild, too, how much of that we were taught in school was, like, fact. And then you grow up and be like, wait a minute.

1:22:54We don't really know what's going on. I didn't even know there was dwarf planets in our solar system. There's planets that aren't, like, regular planets, but I didn't learn about those. I might have learned that three years ago. It's pretty wild to think that they're there and we never learned about them. Well, there's also speculation there's something big that's outside of the Kuiper Belt. There's like some other planet that it might even be a dwarf star or what is it called? I forget what they're called, a brown dwarf. But that we might have a binary star system and that the star might have died off.

1:23:28And it's like in a far outside of our own sun, outside of that orbit. So there's something, there's this thing called the Kuiper belt that's outside of Pluto. And it's a belt of objects. and that's one of the reasons why Pluto got declassified as a planet because it is a little too small to be a planet and it seems like there's a lot of these objects out there and then they found a couple more and they're saying, okay, it's not a planet, but there seems to be a drop-off after that which indicates something that is of a large mass exists. Interesting. But it's a little too far for us to be able to look at right now, so it's a lot of just speculation.

1:24:06What was that one paper that we looked at once that they had documented a planet out there they were calling Planet X? But it's like... The Earth-like? Was it like an Earth-like? They don't know what it is. I mean, this is all... This is the fucking Sumerian tech stuff too, because they talk about this planet called Nibiru that comes within an elliptical orbit every 3 ,600 years and fucks things up, and that's where the Anunnaki live. They come visit us. This is this guy, Zacharias Hitchin. It's fascinating stuff. It's so fun. It's so fun, but it might be full of shit. In fact, there's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com that refutes it.

1:24:45But I'm too dumb to know who's right and who's wrong. It's still interesting to talk about and theorize, you know? Oh, yeah. Well, the Sumerians had a detailed map of the solar system 6 ,000 years ago. Bizarrely. With the sun in the center and all the planets that we know of in the relative size and the relative order. Like the ones that are the right, not exactly the right size because they're so fucking huge, but the bigger ones are in the bigger place. And it shows this map of the solar system on this clay tablet from 9 ,000 or 6 ,000 years ago. Like how did they know that? Yeah. It goes back to the advanced civilization, man.

1:25:25I don't know. How advanced do you think? I think it was a different type of advanced, like not power lines and stuff like that. I think they honed into like natural energy from the earth. Like I heard something about the pyramids may have been like some type of a power plant because they just found where those pillars go down in the ground. So that stuff's wild. That stuff's wild. This dude, Ben Van Kirkwick, and they've used that same technology to find this enormous labyrinth that existed. But that was also documented historically. Herodotus talked about it and different historians have talked about it.

1:25:58This labyrinth that's even more impressive than the pyramids underground. And so using this technology, they've found this 40-meter, it's 40-meter, this metallic, they don't know what kind of metal it is, but there's a metallic tic-tac-shaped object that's 40 meters long at the center of this labyrinth. So they built a dam in the 1960s to help the farmers out. And the dam, unfortunately, fucked up the water table. So this labyrinth is now flooded. So you can't get in it unless they do something to change the water and, you know, change how the water is channeled or build a tunnel inside of it.

1:26:38But the water table has made it impossible to get into it without doing that. But this thing, because of this tomography, this ground penetrating radar, they know that there's an enormous metallic object from thousands and thousands of years ago that's 40 meters long. Are they actively trying to figure it out, like get in there? There are researchers that are, but the problem is there's a lot of resistance from the Egyptian government. I figured. Yeah. They don't want any monkey wrench in the timeline that they've been teaching forever. Yeah. I've seen one article. They just discovered some ancient city, and it was like a—they discovered something.

1:27:19It was related to Christianity. Like, they discovered something, Christ is king. But long story short, the whole entire project just got shut down and they passed the law. You can't dig there for like 20 years. I think you're talking about Gobekli Tepe. Yeah. Gobekli Tepe, which is in Turkey. They found that by accident. It was a farmer. A farmer was, I think it was a sheep herder, actually. He found some stone that was in the ground. He's like kicked at it and was like cleaned it off a little bit and then realized it had a right angle to it. It's like, what the hell is this? And he dug a little deeper and then they called in the archaeologists and they said, hey, we got something here.

1:27:57And then they discovered that there's these concentric circles and these huge stone columns and 3D animals. And they've only uncovered 5 percent of it so far. And they kind of stopped digging because they get an enormous amount of tourist revenue where people want to come to the site. And they didn't want to fuck that up. And, you know, there's a lot of weirdness when you let these governments decide what can and can't be explored. Because through ground penetrating radar, they realize that this site, even though they've only excavated 5 % of it, is one of many, many sites that are in that area.

1:28:36And the age of it is really fascinating because this was intentionally covered somewhere around 11 ,000 years ago. So that means that someone decided to cover this all up with dirt 11 ,000 years ago, which means they don't even know how old it is. It could be 2 ,000, 3 ,000 years older than that. They don't know. And it's just weird to just stop finding that out. Well, they're getting a lot of pressure now, so they might start opening up the excavation of it. And they did a lot of stupid shit, like they covered it with olive trees for some reason. Yeah. Like, I think because olive trees are protected.

1:29:15So if they covered it with olive trees, you couldn't dig into the ground. You couldn't remove the olive trees. It was like a way to stop people from looking around. Interesting. Yeah. But now they realize that the olive trees, the roots are actually destroying the artifacts that are underneath. So now they're pulling the olive trees. And now there's discussions about continuing the excavations. I got off on a giant kick one time reading about a giant. And it's like any time the Smithsonian got involved, it was just shut down. Yeah. The giant stuff is weird because there's a lot of documentation of people finding giants, like enormous.

1:29:50Giant bones. 10, 15-foot tall humans. And then there's also the Nephilim in the Bible that are giants that consumed everything. You know, that were, I mean, David and Goliath. There's giants in the Bible. And it makes you think like, okay, is it a giant like the mountain from the Game of Thrones? You know? Just a big guy. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Because people were shorter and relatively back then. Right. But probably some people weren't if they lived in some places where they had more resources and better genes. Pituitary gland problems, you know, where you have guys 7 foot 11 plus, you know. Yeah.

1:30:24But this seems different. The giants in the Bible and the giants in historical accounts, it seems different. It seems like it's a totally different species of human. And again, if we just found this guy recently that's a million years old and now we know. So forever they were saying that human beings – I mean the timeline used to be homo sapiens emerged 50 ,000 years ago. Then they moved it to 150. Then they moved it to 250, 300. As they find more information, now they have to push it to a million. And if one day they find a fucking head as big as this table, like what do they do? What do they do about that?

1:30:59Do they even tell us? I don't think they would. But why wouldn't they? That's what's weird. Why wouldn't they? Isn't that crazy? But we all agree. We all agree that if they did find a giant, they probably wouldn't tell us. Yeah. Not until they did their own, you know, figured it out for themselves or tested on what they want. Well, if they want people to know, but I don't know why they wouldn't want people to know. Like, why do I why am I convinced that they would hide that? Well, if there is Antichrist on his way, and his goal, he already knows he lost. So his goal at this point is just to destroy as much as possible, get as many souls as possible.

1:31:35And finding stuff like that that would prove the Bible more true would turn more people to Christianity or to God, the one true God. then I could see where if there is like some type of spiritual force that is in somewhat control, then I could see that's the only way I can make sense of it is like, why cover up progress? Why not tell people the truth? Well, I think it's ego. And that might be also related to good and evil in a lot of ways. Loving yourself and you're supposed to love God over yourself. Right. And being the person that has the knowledge and the person that distributes that knowledge and is the gatekeeper of it is a very intoxicating thing for a lot of these academics.

1:32:15And if all of a sudden something comes along, and this is the speculation about what happened with the Smithsonian, that they took that stuff and just fucking tucked it away. I don't think they would want to have, you know, secretly do their own test without anybody knowing about it. I know, but to what end? At one point in time? Before everybody else knows, they would already have the answers. I don't know. But wouldn't there be a time where someone would want to be the guy who discovered it all and get all the credit for it? That's why it doesn't make sense. To me, if somebody knows God, it is freeing in a lot of ways.

1:32:50And you realize that no government is above you or no man is above you. God is above you and you serve God. And if you can keep people away from God, you're that much more susceptible to being a slave to something else. Yeah, like whatever evidence or anything that kind of proves that God exists. Yeah, anything that's going to prove God's existence, I think that's going to be the main thing they shut down. Right, right. Like the Shroud of Turin is an excellent example. Yeah, that's an interesting one. That's a weird one, Matt. That's a weird one. There's a lot of people that go out of their way to try to disprove it.

1:33:24But when you get into the dating of the cloth, so it used to be they were saying that it was only a few hundred years old. But now they're saying that the way the cloth is made, the cloth is made that's exactly consistent with the time that Jesus was alive and that more tests need to be done to find out the exact age of it. Because the problem is like you don't know like what piece they studied and you're not studying the entire thing. And also the image of it is bizarre because the image of it, you really only see Jesus when it's a negative of it. and they don't know how that image was put on there.

1:34:04It wasn't stained. It wasn't burned on there. They don't know what caused it. It's like a blast of radiation. Somebody recreated it with gamma radiation, I think. So it would need to be an extreme source of light to do that. But the only problem is the heat from the light would have vaporized it realistically. So they're wondering, well, if light did do it, how was there no heat? Right. So if Christ did raise and pass through it, there's also x-ray images in the shroud, apparently. Well, you see this when you see the shroud in negative like, Jamie, pull up an image of it. It's very strange. Like it shows the lash marks on his body.

1:34:43It shows his facial features. It shows the holes where his wrist is, where he was crucified. It's very strange stuff. So it's like for someone to do that as a hoax and to just not not paint it, just to do it in some very weird. Go to that. Yeah, that one right where you curse it or so. Make that big. They recently said it's fake. They've recently said it's fake? They go back and forth on it. The thing is, like, who is the person who's they? Right. The Catholic Church is who owns it. What's that, Jamie? It says they've been debunking it for 650 years. Well, 650 years ago, they didn't even have carbon dating.

1:35:20So what were they doing to debunk it back then? There's a bunch of people that want to debunk it. There's a document they found. A document? Well, they were talking, I mean, I don't know. Well, they talked about it being bullshit. Yeah. The thing is, people, I'm sure, called bullshit on it a long time ago. I've seen videos of people who have talked about ways that some of that stuff could have been done. Sure. But how would someone figure out that 500, 1 ,000, 2 ,000 years ago, whatever it is? It could have been 300, 200, 150, 60 years ago. Well, it's 650 years. If they've been debunking it for 650 years, you've got to assume it's at least 650 years old.

1:35:57Whoa. So the thing is, like, see, it's been dated between 1355 and 1382. The text was the document. The text. What text? That we're talking about here, not the shroud. What is the text about? Medieval documents revealed the authenticity of the shroud that many believe wrapped and crucified was being called into question perhaps as early as 1355. Okay, well, that means that it existed 1355. Yeah. Description, depictions by clergymen. See, it's hard. Deceptions. Oh, excuse me. Deceptions by clergymen. His writings now considered the oldest written rejection of the relic, predate the previous earliest documented criticism by the Bishop of Troyes, Pierre d 'Arcisse in 1389.

1:36:46So either way, we know it's at least 600 plus years old. And we know that the way that it was put on there was not stained. It was not painted. It's very strange. And if you look at it like that, they didn't even know that until they came up with photography, until they could take an image of it and make it a negative, they didn't see the face of Jesus and all the depictions. It's like this image right here is like you look at that, the Shroud of Turin, like, yeah, I could say call bullshit, whatever. But then you see the negative. I go back to those other images. So this is what it looks like when you run it through, when you use modern photography and turn it into a negative.

1:37:25that's really weird that this wasn't that they didn't know about this in the 1300s yeah new study says it's something else so they're gonna have studies forever that debunk it and one thing that academics love to do they love to call everybody retarded yeah everybody's an idiot this is all fake this is bullshit but whatever that is man when you're just go back to the the negative ones the one that you just had the one down right yeah that one please that's weird as fuck to me man that's weird as fuck that it didn't you couldn't see it normally and you only see it when they make a negative of it that is so strange that someone would go out of their way to fake something in that way where it only exists in a negative well they don't even know how it happened right exactly they don't know how to i mean they're saying they could reproduce it today but i don't think anybody has.

1:38:20And also, how are you going to reproduce it to such an extent with so much detail that matches the biblical depiction of the crucifixion, including the holes in the wrist, the lash marks on his back, the wound in his side? It's all really weird. At the very least, it's fascinating. At the very least, it's fascinating. I mean, it's really interesting stuff to me that that seeing that i really don't even care how old people think it is or like figure out how they did that first to me it's like if this is not only that how'd they do that 600 fucking years ago or 2 000 years ago or whatever really whatever age it actually is i've seen one article last year where they were they found dirt particles that matched you know that they trace back to Jerusalem.

1:39:10Yeah. Like I say, they've been debunking it and saying it's authentic and debunking it, it seems like for the last five or ten years now. Oh, it's very weird stuff. Just where are we at right now with it? That one church in Ethiopia that's supposed to have the Ark of the Covenant there, and all the people that guard it, they all get cataracts and they wind up dying of radiation. I haven't heard that one yet. You ever heard that? I don't know about that, because the Ark of the Covenant was when God the Father's presence was here on earth, not through Jesus. Old Testament, the I am was down here, and that's what he resided in.

1:39:43And you had to do all these things to be in his presence, or you would literally just die because, you know, he's holy. And to me, it's like lightness and dark cannot exist in the same place. So whatever. But God the Father's presence isn't there anymore, so I don't understand why it would still be messing people up. Well, we don't know what they were writing down. The problem with all of ancient, all ancient religious texts, let's assuming there was real events. The problem is a lot of these things were told as an oral tradition for 100, 500, 1 ,000 years before they're ever even written down.

1:40:23And then they write them down. They write them down in Aramaic. They write them down in Hebrew. They write them and then they have to translate it. And they translate it to Greek and Latin and then eventually English. You're missing a lot along the way. When I read these things, when I read the Bible or if I read the Book of Enoch or any of these ancient texts, I'm always trying to say, okay, what were they trying to document? What was the original event? What actually happened? And the problem is people are really bad at telling the truth. Like human beings, when they see something fantastic, they always add their own little flavor to it.

1:41:04People add their own little thing to it. If they are of a certain belief, they're going to attach that belief to whatever this thing was. So it's no question that these people held whatever that was in such high regard. And it meant so much to them that they, like the book of Isaiah, where it's verbatim, that they wrote it verbatim for a thousand years. Back when they started out, they were writing things down on animal skins. That's one of the things about the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's so fascinating. is they had to do genetic testing. So they're writing these things down on these animal skins, and they had to make sure that the skin of this one is the same cow as the skin of this one.

1:41:47So if they do genetic testing to make sure it's the same cow skin. So, okay, we got all this skin from this cow, and it's in this group of tech, so start decoding it. That's an interesting way of doing it. That's wild. It's wild. I would have never thought of that. Like Wes Huff said, how they used to write things. They'd leave stuff out back then because it wasn't required back then. They would just write down the basics. I watched that Wes Huff thing, and that was very interesting. Very. He's fascinating. He's brilliant, man. I've watched a bunch of stuff on him. Very, very brilliant. But it's also, again, what were they trying to document?

1:42:23Clearly something was going on back then. Something happened. Did you ever read that story? It was somewhere in the Bible. I can't remember where. It was in the Old Testament. Somebody stole the ark? Well, some tribes stole the ark, and the next day, the next morning, everybody was dead from stealing the ark, and they pretty much said, hey, come get this thing. Take it back. We don't want it. Well, that's what people believe is in this church in Ethiopia, because there's these Ethiopian Jews who also, their Bible is the book of Enoch. Do we have an image of this? No. No. You can't see it. Nobody can get it.

1:42:58I say send in the seals. We need to fucking find out what the fuck is in there, bro. Put these guys in hazmat suits and let's get to the bottom of this. If the U.S. knows you got it, it's going to be ours. Well, yeah, you would imagine. We're going to take it. Or they might not know it all. Well, what would happen with remote viewers if remote viewing is real? Get remote viewers in a room. We have talked about that. Your brother's big on, like, he went down a remote viewing rabbit hole. He was big on it. I thought it was 100 % horseshit about 10 years ago. What about the submarine? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:43:28No, the submarine's big. The one that they found the Soviet submarine that they were building. They knew the exact location. Not just that. Remote viewers found a downed aircraft that was in Siberia. They located it within a three-mile radius. They found it. They knew where it was. The United States went in and got it before the Soviet Union could. Using remote viewers to do that. Yeah, using remote viewers. Like, they've got actionable information from remote viewers, allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. To me, it feels like we could – it's just to scare the Soviets. Like, oh, we got people with superpowers.

1:44:02We know where the submarine is. Or they're doing it too. Or they're doing it too. Or is this something that people realize that there is a developing aspect of human consciousness or an aspect of human consciousness that used to exist that we forgot that we don't know how to do anymore? One of those things. Yeah. That's an interesting concept, yeah. It is because the remote viewer thing, they spent a fuckload of money on that, and they kept that program going on for a long, long time. And, you know, I don't know what they discovered or what they didn't. You know, unless you're in the room with the people that have the top, top, top secret information, who knows?

1:44:39That whole Cold War time is also just wild. I think it was – I see why we would have faked a lot of stuff. Sure. On both sides. Oh, for sure. It's just a big bluff game of we can do this, we have this. Yep, yep. Andy just started believing in us getting to the moon. Well, once we went to NASA in Texas, but also that documentary, the other footage that came out, I don't really know. I can see why we would fake it. I mean, it's Soviets. Yeah, I can see why we could fake it. It's the U.S. government. We'd fake a lot of, fake anything. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I was saying for a while, though, before that documentary came out, the story, well, we lost the footage.

1:45:21We lost all of it. And it's like, did they just wait for technology to progress to be able to make a convincing documentary? Well, they definitely lost the footage. They lost all the original copies of the film. So all the original film was gone. What you're seeing is just copies of copies. They also lost the telemetry data, which is a real problem. That's the hard data, the binary data that shows the distance and the craft and how far it was. It just seems fake. It seems fake when you watch it. That's what's weird to me. It seems totally hokey. It looks fake as shit. And then the weird one for me is the Apollo 11 post-flight press conference.

1:46:01Those guys look like a hostage video. It doesn't look real at all. And then there's Neil Armstrong who gave that very bizarre cryptic speech at the 25th anniversary of the Apollo moon landing. There's a lot of weirdness to them. And the fact that we haven't been back. there's not a single thing that's not cheaper easier and faster to reproduce from 1969 in 2025 except the moon landing yeah it's just weird like if it is true i've seen a video of like something that was supposedly live streamed on on the news back then and it was just this guy who was obviously hanging from a cable and he had this pathetic looking earth under him yeah you know and it's not at all what actual space looks like now but this was like on the news apparently Well, that's probably not real.

1:46:45That's probably an artist's rendition or recreation. But how about the phone call? Nixon is calling the guys. Hey, fellas, I hear you're on the moon. Yes, sir, we're on the moon. I can't even get fucking cell phone service in my bathroom. What's their explanation for how those reflectors got up there? Well, first of all, the Russians put reflectors as well. So you can definitely remotely place reflectors. The other problem is the moon itself reflects. So there's a lot of weird arguments about that. I could see how you could say, oh, there's reflectors, and that would indicate that people were there.

1:47:23But show us the flag. Do we not have a – can we point James Webb over there? No, no, no, no. That's deep space. It's a different thing. You'd have to get a different kind of technology that's just to zoom in on the moon, and they would go, why would we do that? why we spend billions and billions of dollars to prove something that rational people think definitely happened. So a lot of people that would have to hold a secret too. Not really. You don't think so? No, because it's compartmentalized. It's compartmentalized. The only people that would really need to know are the people who made the footage, the people that are involved in the filming and the actual astronauts themselves.

1:47:56Everybody else, you're getting fed data. Yeah, you think they would believe that's happening. Yeah, not only that, the first time when Apollo 11 happened, They weren't allowed to get a direct feed from NASA. So what they did was they used a projection screen, and then all the news cameras pointed their cameras at the projection screen. That's why it looks like shit. Like the first – the Apollo 11 video looks so bad. But it seems like that was on purpose. Like they made it look like shit on purpose. Interesting. And if you wanted to gain technological and ethical and moral superiority over the evil communists, you could see why you would make some sort of a rationalization, why you should fake that we have the ability to go to the moon.

1:48:43Because the ability to go to the moon is not just scientific. It's military. It's a military might. Like we have the best rockets. We have the best this. We have the best. We got the best. We went to the moon. We definitely did it. So it just makes sense that they would fake it and the the blow of Sputnik flying over the United States Everybody could see it's like We can put this right above your country was a fix I'm just saying if they were giving people LSD and brothels, I could see them. Oh, yeah Percent most of us 100 % most of the United States history is full shit at least some aspect of it Look what got us into the Vietnam War Gulf of Tonkin never happened full shit false flag event They all throughout history all throughout the United States history in the 1960s during the same time where they were supposedly going to the moon They lied Constantly at every fucking turn at every turn and who's to say they're not still doing that It was easier to trust they are they 100 % are yeah Yeah, look I know people in government that will tell you they'll put your phone down Let's go for a walk and they'll tell you yeah, and you're like what?

1:49:47Yeah, that would be that one that have those conversations are strange One of my favorite things is the pizza ordering at the Pentagon. Oh, yeah. When shit starts to go down, the spike in pizza ordering because people are working late. Yeah. Interesting. Very weird. And it just spiked. I saw, I think a couple weeks ago because I brought it up. I got a notification. It's like, pizza spike. I know. People started thinking we're going to war. It was at a high that was like the Panama stuff, Vietnam high. Isn't that funny? It's pizza deliveries is what freaks everybody out. They're working late. They just call it all all the generals together seen that yeah accepted but Supposedly what they're doing is giving they want to get all the generals together and give them some sort of a moral and ethical Mandate yeah, like preparedness.

1:50:39This is what we want the military to be no more beards and no more fucking politics And no more no more identity politics and bullshit. We the most important thing is be ready Yeah, be ready have the best most capable military that's humanly possible given the resources that we have today This is what our this is where our goal is This is where our job is and they needed to call everybody together to do that Well, you saw what the fuck was going on over the last four years Yeah, you got guys in dresses talking about how it's really important to have inclusiveness It's the most important thing about the military is inclusivity Like we had crazy people that were in charge of very important positions Yeah, that guy that was stealing women's clothes.

1:51:18Yeah, that guy was in charge of like fucking nuclear waste and he's running around stealing people's underwear

1:51:30Not just stealing but he stole this one lady who was like a famous designer It was a one-off dress and then he wore that's how he got busted He wore it to some event and the lady was like hey motherfucker. That's mine Like someone stole that shit from the airport and that's how he got busted. This is a South Park episode. Yeah, it is a South Park episode. Is it? Is it a South Park episode? No, we live in a South Park episode. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do. It's getting wild, man. Yeah. It is wild, but it's like it's always been wild. And this is one of the good things about Trump being elected and Trump in office is it kind of threw a monk because they didn't want him to be the president and threw a monkey wrench into all these things that they were doing.

1:52:10You get to see a lot of these people scramble and you get to see like, oh, this is this is there's so much like all the Doge stuff where they uncovered all these NGOs. That was crazy. Yeah. There's an NGO for I think it's every 600 people in India. Yeah. You know how crazy that is? There's a non there's a non-government organization for every I think it's like five or six hundred people in India. There's millions of them. It doesn't make any sense. It's crazy. It's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Elon explained it to me, too. He said what you would do is you would make this nonprofit and you would call this not you'd put a bunch of money into it.

1:52:54So you put like$10 million, relatively small to them,$10 million, this thing, and call it like Agency for Peace, Center for Peace, whatever it is. And then that becomes a non-government organization. And then you get politicians to dump tons of money into this NGO and then through this NGO you profit It's like a shell company Yeah, and there's a ton of those and there's so many of them They couldn't even keep track of them and the more they dug into it the more they started calling Elon a Nazi and it's just Go wild They don't like when the elites don't like when the curtains pulled back Well, that was the curtain being pulled back It was the curtain being pulled back in a way that most people were not aware and when I brought Mike Benz in and Mike Benz laid it all out and he was explaining that what the what USAID was for was the things that were too dirty for the CIA to get involved in so a lot of it was like regime change operations yeah it's like outlining all these different regime change operations that were all being paid for and then your tax dollars being dumped into these NGOs and then people are pulling money out of it and billions of dollars that's the world's piggy bank why did uh why did every Why'd they stop digging?

1:54:01Are they still digging? Well, I don't know. Because I know Elon's not in the White House anymore. It was supposed to be a temporary thing. But it just seems like it all just stopped. Well, you don't hear about it anymore. That's true. But I think it was real problematic. I mean, they did shut down USAID. And they turned Elon into a fucking Nazi. I mean, how many fucking Teslas got keyed and tires got slashed and his business was really troubled by it? And so he's like, I'm done. I'm stepping away. You guys, you didn't follow my instructions. You didn't follow my recommendations. So what can I do?

1:54:31You're ruining my life. So I'm just gonna back out of this go back to building rockets So he's just going back to building rockets. Well the thing is like they didn't even care that he Rescued those people from the fucking space station, which was wild like no one wanted to give him credit No one wanted to say thank you. No, no, he's a Nazi people I know we're calling him a Nazi because he spazzed out and when my heart goes out to you. Oh, yeah We we make fun of that all the time crazy. Yeah, someone just took a still image, you know The guy literally has a chain around his neck that was given to him by one of the mothers of one of the hostages in Israel It says bring them all home.

1:55:06Yeah He has he wears it around his neck. That's what a Nazi does like are you fucking kidding me? You think he's a Nazi? There's no evidence that he's a Nazi other than one hand movement. Yeah, that's it Well, it's like the whole rights being called Nazis like yes Why are we throwing that word around that word doesn't mean anything when everybody's a Nazi? Yeah, it's like it's so stupid. It's just like overplayed that hand it started off being pretty strong and having a lot of weight. But now, you know, it's just like you guys, they use it all the time. Yeah. Everybody's a Nazi, and then if you're not, you're a communist.

1:55:38I mean, it's just— Well, the communists are real. Everything's so extreme right now. Then Nazis are real, too? That's the part of the problem. When you call everybody a Nazi, well, the problem is that word gets overused, and now legitimate Nazis can just operate with impunity. They're real. There's legit Nazis out there. Yeah, yeah, and then they wouldn't even really know what a Nazi is at that point. It's squirrely. It's squirrely as fuck. And the government just is too big. It's too big. There's too much going on. And you can only do so much to make it effective. And so this administration has four years.

1:56:10And who knows what they're going to be able to get done or not get done. And there's a lot of things they're doing that make people very upset. Like all the ICE stuff and the raids. Do you see Ice Cube's bus, tour bus? Have you seen that? No. They burnt his bus down. Portland, the Antifa people burnt ice cubes because they thought it was an ice bus. You haven't seen this? No. Oh, yeah. I didn't mean to interrupt you on it, but it just hit me. I saw that a couple days ago. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. Yeah, burned it to the ground. Is there a reaction video? Oh, I would love to see Ice Cube's reaction.

1:56:46Bro, Portland is wild. Oh, yeah. You guys touring Portland at all? Yeah, we've done it. We actually had a good show there, but when you walk around. Oh, people are so happy. It is zombie apocalypse. And we were just, another one's San Francisco. We've never, first time for us going to San Francisco was about a month ago. And we were in whatever they call the Tenderloin. And it is a madhouse. There's people blowing up fireworks. Some homeless people blowing up these fireworks in the middle of the night on the street. Me and Drew's just watching them out the window. We're watching crime happen. Yeah, San Francisco is pretty buck wild.

1:57:17And then the mayor came out and said, we're making a declaration. No one can sleep on the street. You can no longer loiter you can only do that And then go look at San Francisco right now. It's exactly the same is that talk is San Francisco where they cleaned up the Chinese King was in town Newsom said well when you have visitors over you clean up your house like yeah, bitch Why don't you just keep your fucking house clean? Why you got shit on your floor? Human shit all over your streets. Yeah, man. That's the questions that everybody needs to be asking But this is the question possible what if I wanted to ruin society and get it to a point where everybody You needed to control things because it got so chaotic that you can institute some sort of a digital ID and institute social credit score That's how you would do it.

1:58:05You would you would I mean I'm not saying that that's what they're doing, but that's how I would do it What I would do is I would just let people out of jail the moment they do anything let them camp on the streets Give them money for drugs. Just let them just let it go crazy and then have everybody like Like scrambling, please take away our freedom to give us safety. Yeah. And then boom. Well, you can't blame people for asking these kinds of questions when you go to other countries and it's safe to walk around at night and it's a pretty clean city. It's like, why don't we have this? You can't blame a society for asking those kinds of questions from their leaders.

1:58:40Why don't you just clean up for a foreign government to come visit, which is cool or whatever, but you proved that you could. Yeah. And then like, why don't we just have that all the time? Yeah. I think there needs to be more stuff directed towards mental health. A lot of those homeless people and people on drugs is there. Some of them are like mentally ill and 100 percent can't. But we don't have any we don't have any treatment for people like that. hardly. Well, it all skyrocketed during the Reagan administration because they changed the like the laws in terms of like what you're supposed to do when someone's mentally ill.

1:59:15And they just like let them loose. Let's stop paying for it. Yeah. We don't have insane asylums anymore or anything. But then again, you know, you hear stories about insane asylums. Like that's not good either. We would hope we'd have some good ones. But it's just like some people are out there with no family. Right. There's like, you know, their family died when they were 18 and they're they're not mentally able to function in society. They've been homeless for 20 years. 100%. We need a place for people like that. Yes, 100%. I have a very, very close family member right now that's homeless and mentally ill and is...

1:59:47That's all I want man is for people to like we need I don't know what needs to happen but we need to get these people help. 100%. Yeah, 100%. And that should be something that we do spend money on. I'd roll tax dollars to go to something like that. Yeah. 100%. Everybody, right or left, everybody would. You want people to get a chance. I mean, the best stories ever are people that they were in the gutter, like living on the streets. And now all of a sudden they're helping people. They run some sort of a nonprofit food kitchen. And they're helping people get clean. And they found life's purpose.

2:00:20and running whether it is some sort of a religious class or something that gives people hope and gives people something that they can tell you, like, hey, I used to be where you are, and now I'm not, and now I'm helping people. Right or left. This divide that we have in this country, most of it's bullshit, and most of it is engineered. It's engineered to keep us at each other's throats so they can keep getting away with all this nonsense. And we keep eating it up. Oh, yeah, and doubling down. It could be like if the president said don't go buy or something about bananas. Yeah. You go, everybody should have a banana today.

2:01:00The left would never eat another banana in their life. Look at this Tylenol thing. Or the Tylenol thing. Tylenol said in 2017, we actually don't recommend you take our product pregnant. But to see people. In 2017, they said that. Well, not only that, two years ago, Johnson & Johnson separated from Tylenol. Tylenol became its own company. Oh. Didn't know that. Probably like they saw it coming down the pipe. And they're like, hey. We're jumping. Yeah. Well, here's what's really crazy. A lot of fucking crazy leftist women started taking Tylenol to own JFK or RFK Jr. and Trump. And a bunch of them died of liver toxicity.

2:01:35Because they took too much. I knew it was going to happen. A friend of mine. It was full of TikTok. Pregnant women just taking Tylenol. Just out of spite. It's crazy. It's crazy. Why let something dictate your life that much? you know because a lot of people are nuts man a lot of people just that don't have any critical thinking skills and they're in a cult and you find a hobby they're in a cult whether they're in a mega cult or they're in a leftist cult they're in a fucking cult and they're all in on one side or the other side and i think humanity exists in the middle and humanity exists in the middle where you're supposed to be able to talk about ideas and you're supposed to say well what's What's a good for just overall society, like mental health institutions, like giving people some sort of a chance to become a productive member of society?

2:02:21Like, there's a lot of things that we all agree on. Yeah. And we need to find common ground. And instead of, like, fighting, instead of polarizing people. And this is one of the problems that I have with this administration is that they're really good at like pointing fingers at the other side and polarizing and really bad at uniting us all and not attacking the other side and just uniting us and bringing us together. What was the last administration that was good at uniting, in your opinion? Oh. Or has it always been a device? It's kind of always been like that. But maybe the Clinton administration, maybe the first one.

2:02:57Yeah. Bush 9-11. Yeah. Yeah, push 9-11, but boy. Everybody was on the same team for at least a year. He was pretty divisive. Oh, he was super divisive before that. That's for damn sure. It was an outside influence. But it's also, it's like, what did they do with that unitedness? They forced us into a war over a bullshit premise. I mean, it just shows you what they're really willing to do if they have everybody's will. If they have everybody on their side, like, okay, great, let's invade Iraq. Let's lie about weapons. The war on terrorism. Yeah, exactly. They go anywhere with that. Nuclear weapons.

2:03:30That's what I have to do. Say, they hate us for our freedom. Oh, no. I'm going to go fuck them up. And take their oil. Yeah, exactly. It's kind of crazy, but we always fall for it. And hopefully we fall for it less and less every year, but it doesn't seem like it when you see pregnant ladies chewing Tylenol. Yeah. We're in a crazy time. Again, that's what the song touches on. We're actually going to put it out October 3rd because of it. I listened to it in the gym today. People hating? Yeah. You like it? I love it. I love the whole album. It's really great. Just jaded on it, man. Yeah, people hating each other.

2:04:03Oh, it's sick. It's sick and it's unnecessary and you don't get much time folks. You don't get much time in this life. You get a hundred years if you're lucky and you're gonna waste it fighting ideological battles on Twitter and Facebook like what are you doing? Yeah, you know, and you're trapped trapped on your phone You're trapped like checking to see how people are engaging with your latest outrage tweet. I can't. I cannot, dude. I cannot look at the comments. I think I learned that from you. Post and ghost. Post and ghost, baby. I've seen some of these things and I know it's all bullshit. Somebody's just coming on here to rile me up.

2:04:44David 36907. Yeah. On the inside, it kind of gets to you a little bit. I just don't. Brandon's a comment reader. Dude, he loves it. I eat it up, son. Do you? Keep doing it. Yeah, I don't care. Really? I wouldn't be doing this if I cared about people's opinion. You know what I mean? But you do care about good people's opinions. Yeah. You just don't care about the negative opinions? I don't care about the negative opinions because I'm not doing it for God, pretty much. But, I mean, any time I post a cover song, sorry, not wailing. Sorry, nobody will ever be George Jones. I wasn't trying to be. I'm just singing the songs, not that deep.

2:05:21Johnny Cash will never be Nine Inch Nails. You know, he made hurt. It's just a different thing man. You can enjoy it without saying that But there's a lot of people that are just negative and it's why it's because their life sucks Do you think Michael Jordan leaves YouTube comments? No, because he's a fucking winner. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's really what it is. It's like a lot of our society their main contribution is bitching Yeah, you know, that's what they spend most of their energy on we want to keep it about music man Good for you a lot of drama in the world and we if somebody tried to start drama with us, I don't even know if we would even reply.

2:05:56It's a fake place. You think I'm going to waste my time arguing with you on social media? You know, I'm not. Cool. That's what you think. It's one of the few things that we have that really unites us. You know, it really does. You can get people of all persuasions, all different kinds of backgrounds, just love a good song. It's universal. Yeah. It's weird about social media, too, is the algorithm. I'm like, someone left-leaning will have a completely different comment section than someone right-leaning. Oh, yeah. Living in an echo chamber. Oh, yeah. And that's really bad because then you think, look, and then when the election happens, you're like, what?

2:06:33What is going on? How do you not think the way I think? Yeah. We're all people, man. Yeah. I just wish someone would come along that was a great uniter and hopefully they won't get shot. Yeah. Jeez. Jesus. Well, maybe it would. Maybe that's it. They killed him first, though. Yeah. Yeah, they did it back then, too. Yeah. If Jesus did come back today, boy, would that be fascinating. Like, just to see how people see it. Oh, God. Oh, God. Actually, I believe. I'm sorry. It would be relieving, honestly. I mean. Could you imagine, though, like, I don't know. I don't want to throw shade on anybody, but just dying.

2:07:09It's like, oh, God dang it. They were right. It's like, I know. I know. I know. I'll see myself. I don't know. Just go ahead and walk the other way. Right. You get to the pearly gates, you're like, no shit. Really? Dang. And then St. Peter's Lake, come here. Talk to you about some things. See, for me, I'm like, oh, dude, I didn't know. If I knew, I would have never done all this. I would have never lied about my taxes. I would have never done any of those things. A little late then. I'd have to make a stop at purgatory on the way. That's where I'll be. We make that joke. You don't make it purged.

2:07:40Yeah, dude. I'll be there eventually. But music is the great uniter. Andrew's the only Catholic in the band. So it's like, again, we believe in purgatory. Yeah, but we coexist. Yeah, we have. Yeah. We I mean, we talk about we have like a little random Bible study that pop up. We just talk about the Bible. I pull out my catechism, you know, it's fun. I'm just going to be laughing at you because God probably will send you to a purgatory because you believed in it. Hey, he might be sending you. We don't know. We'll know when we get there. I'm all see y 'all in that. When was Catholicism established?

2:08:16With Jesus Christ, when he was crucified. That's when it was started? Yeah, he told St. Peter, I'll build on top of you. You are the rock I will build my church on. You know where his bones are? In the Vatican. Underneath St. Peter's Basilica. Interesting. Vatican's got a lot of stuff. St. Peter's Basilica is wild. Just went for my honeymoon. Insane. It was, even if you're not Catholic, just going there. They have a whole museum. It's insane. Are we going in Europe? No, that's down in Rome. We won't make it that far. But either way, Rome is pretty bizarre to look at too. But there is nothing, there's nothing like St.

2:08:53Peter's Basilica. It is. By the way, how crazy is it that Rome is its own country? How crazy is that? They have their own, it's a country. It's like 50 acres or something. The Vatican. Yeah, the Vatican. The Vatican, rather. Excuse me, not Rome. And you have to wait in line. Yeah, you have to wait in line to enter in the morning when we went. But the Vatican being its own country is so strange. And then you get in and you're like, this might be the richest country ever. Yeah. Like, look at all the art. They have so much art. They have so much art. It's just other houses. St. Peter's Basilica, whatever you believe, if you go to that, you'll be awestruck.

2:09:27It's literally, like, you walk in and you get, you're just covered in chills. You're blown away. And didn't it take, like, 400 or 500 years to make? I'm sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, this was all people with no computers and no power drills. Yeah, man. No power saws. Like, how? How dedicated were you motherfuckers? I will say that's what some of my favorite memories of Europe last year was seeing cathedrals, how beautiful they are. It's kind of screwed up. They were, like, charging people at the door. No, that was— God, look at that. That's, yeah, Anglican. It wasn't Catholic, no. Catholics. Look at that.

2:10:08You can enter. Anglican will charge you. And when you see it, the photos are beautiful, but being there in person, you realize the scale of it all. And it's almost impossible. It's impossible to imagine the dedication and the craftsmanship that was involved in making something so incredible. And there's a whole crip underneath with all the... It's like we moved backwards. How did stuff stop being beautiful? That's a good question. The construction methods got much more convenient. You see it like a picture of a train from back in the day how like this beautiful public train used to be Oh, yeah old cars are just how about you see economy seating from like the 1960s They were smoking cigarettes on the mayor Yeah, there is smoking cigarettes in couches.

2:10:55They're big-ass seats. Everybody looked relaxed rappers don't even do that now I mean they were like living it up back then. Yeah, they were living I really couldn't imagine sitting on an airplane next to somebody smoking a cigarette When I was a kid, they smoked on planes. It has to be suffocating, right? It was horrible. And if you got a ticket late, you had to sit in the smoking section. So you're in the back of the bus or the back of the plane. And if you had to go to the toilet, you had to go past all the people smoking. Wow. Look at that. Is that even real? That's economy seating. That looks nice.

2:11:26Turbulence? No wonder people are so depressed nowadays. Well, they did have seatbelts, didn't they? They don't look like anyone's really wearing one. No, they don't look like anyone's really wearing one. Where the fuck's all our luggage? You might die. Well, the luggage is in overhead compartments. They still have overhead compartments. Those look pretty shallow. Yeah, those are overhead compartments. No lights. People probably traveled air. Do you think that's fake? It might be AI generated. They might be bullshitting us. But there are definitely real showtos. It's an eight-year-old post on Reddit.

2:11:53I think it's legit. Yeah. I've seen one picture. 747 from the 1960s. Is there like a stand-up bar? Didn't they have like a stand-up bar section where you walk around and go get a drink? So that's a different size plane, though. 747, yeah. But it depends on where you're going and how far you're flying. There's no overhead storage, it looks like. Those people look like they're having a good old time, though, on those planes. Yeah, they were actually talking to each other. Look at the colors of the seats. And by the way, the stewardesses were hot. Yeah. They were hot stewardesses. You had to be hot to be a stewardess back then.

2:12:26Yeah, weird. Also, what happened to fashion? These people are dressed up very nice on an airplane. And now people are showing up in yoga pants. People used to dress well. I don't have any problem with yoga pants. That's the first one. Don't be hating on yoga pants, bro. I should have wore mine, dang it. But it went well with your chain. And the mustache. Nothing but shirtless, chain, mustache, yoga pants. I don't know why people were calling me a lesbian. Yeah, Theo Vaughn comments coming back. People were like, oh, he looks like Matthew McConaughey. I was like, dang, what are they talking about me?

2:13:01And it was Brandon. And they're like, who's this mustache lesbian that keeps talking? And I was like, dang. What did I do? Yeah, what did I do? Well, people will find a way to get you. Yeah, I don't read those. I just have Brandon send me screenshots. Because you get in there, right? Yeah, my feelings will get hurt. Man. I get a lot of Elvis like, oh, he looks like Elvis. He looks like Elvis. That's why I won't do karate. Because that's just the next thing they'll just tack on. Oh, he's doing karate like Elvis. I'm just like, yeah. It's a good thing to get out your aggression, though. It's a good thing to calm yourself.

2:13:35I want to do something, man. I want to do boxing or something. Do some Muay Thai. Have some guy hold pats for you. If you started out with Shotokan, you know? Yeah. Get some guy to hold pats for you when you're on the road. Drew's here down 40-plus pounds in the last how long? I'd say about 10 months. Really? That's great. What'd you do? I fasted. So I did like 16-hour fasts pretty much every day. Okay. Intermittent fasting. Uh-huh. Nice. Just that alone. Isn't that amazing? Dude, 30 pounds by itself. Yeah, and then I started working out a few weeks ago and I've just been doing it like every single day Don't you feel a million times better?

2:14:111 ,000 % isn't that crazy like you want to tell people I know it sucks to start yeah Starting something is hard to do changing the habits of your life are very hard to do But if you could do it you'll feel so much better. Yeah, I mean like I can't even go a day without running Really? It feels like I will feel bad Isn't that incredible? Yeah, dude. I love it so much. And you think about the time where you felt bad all the time, and that was your base state. Yeah. That's a lot of people that are complaining online, too. There's a lot of people that just, they're uncomfortable just walking around in life.

2:14:44They need to go exercise. Yeah, they're filled with anxiety and angst. You need to get outside and exercise. Yeah. Just fucking do something. Take a walk. Do something. I mean, it will cure a lot of things. Just exercise alone. I mean. Well, it's 1.25 times better than antidepressants. Just that alone. 1.25 times better than SSRIs. Everybody's always, it just blows my mind, even growing up as a kid, all these fat-burning pills and all these shortcuts to lose weight and the Ozempic thing. It's like, there's no shortcut. It is diet and exercise. Yeah. Lean and mean, baby. I think for people that are morbidly obese, something like Ozempic is...

2:15:25it's gonna be the it'll help you yeah catalyst get you started sometimes it's just getting started it's just like getting momentum going where you're doing something positive every day and then you know next thing you know it's five days in a row next you know it's a month in a row like i'm feeling fucking good i got i really have a good program going on now i'm feeling better everything's healthy and that's a lot of life is just having positive momentum in the right direction. We're creatures of habit. We learn to walk by forming a habit. You can form good habits. You get to a point where, like you said, man, I didn't get my run in today.

2:16:01I feel weird. It's like, oh, I need to go to the gym. I need to fill a pump or something. You get that habit going, man. And for some people, it's meditation. For some people, it's yoga. Just do something. Do something. Do something positive. Don't just exist. I hope that for America, we'll get fit again. Well, that would be nice. We need that. I feel like that's... I feel like it's shifting. I feel like it. There's a lot of people that are shifting. Yeah. Well, I think like with our grandparents, the importance wasn't known yet of how important moving. Like if you don't use your joints, you're going to lose them when you're old.

2:16:37And that's why we have, you know, old people are all slumped over and old. I hope when our generation gets there, we know how important exercise is. And when we're 80 years old, we can still run a mile, you know. Or just go to the doctor and they give you a new body. Or that too. That's probably going to happen. Stress my legs out. Get some new knees. Just take your brain and download it into a new body. Have they tried the head transplant yet? They have done a head transplant. Did it work? Yeah, no. The person died, but they kept him alive for a short period of time. They did it to a dog, right?

2:17:11Yeah, the dog. I think they did do it to a person. That Nazi video of the dog head's weird. Yeah. Made me feel weird. Well, the Nazis tried a lot of shit. They experimented with a lot of shit. That's what's really dark is a lot of medical experiments we found out through the Nazis. For the Nazis. Yeah. Like spreading intestines across the wall to see how GI tracts work. Yeah. They're poking on people's brain while they're still active. Sick people. It's got to be a smelly room, dude. Oh, yeah. I would imagine. Well, with genetic engineering, hopefully they don't have to do any of that. But it is going to be weird if you could just choose your body.

2:17:49yeah you know like everyone's gonna look beautiful everyone's gonna be looking like thor you know at that point hemsworth's walking around the world it's gonna be very strange at that point god's just gonna all right that's it yeah on the plug let's go too far yeah maybe me and my uh wife are looking into ivf right now and they were uh they're like do you want to pick a ginger you can do that yeah i mean if you had your choice would you want to pick and i was like that's something you gotta i'm gonna need a week to think about and why are you looking into ivf why are you doing that um so my wife has um scar tissue and so she had to she had a mass on her uh one of her fallopian tubes oh so they have to do it this way yeah so well see in that way medical science is brilliant.

2:18:39Yeah. And it would be cool if that was covered by insurance. Yeah, it would be. There's a program called Carrot now that runs through our through our insurance that you can do it on. Oh, what? It's quite expensive though, right? Isn't it like$30 ,000 a shot? Something like that. It doesn't always work the first time. You have to try it again. Yeah. My wife puts it as you know your baby's just taking the scenic route because a lot of people feel funny about they feel funny about getting IVF but it's like there's nothing wrong with IVF if it allows you to become a parent and it's the most rewarding thing in life to become a parent to me at least it changes everything changes your whole life changes your perspective on things Dave Chappelle said it best to me he said it didn't just change the amount of love I had it changed my capacity for love yeah Yeah.

2:19:34And if you can give that to people, that's beautiful. Yeah. Especially, like, there's a real population collapse problem. Yeah, I was going to say that. Yeah. In a lot of countries, it's real serious. There's some countries where it's not. There's some countries where they're overproducing. It's like, isn't England, like, below the rate they need to be? Japan is real bad. Isn't China's upside down to many old people? I don't know. I don't know what Japan or China is, but I know Japan has a real issue. South Korea has a huge issue. It's funny. I wonder why it's the Asian countries. They work hard.

2:20:07They're busting their ass all the time. They don't have time to make kids. I mean if you're like super dedicated to work and super disciplined, and Korea, South Korea in particular, is a very disciplined culture, very hard-working culture. So if they're career-oriented and disciplined, those are the type of people that have less kids. I'd like to see where they're the highest and where they're the lowest and see, you know is it like europe is it northern europe producing more children i've seen a map of it i can't remember what's what but that poor countries it's kind of scary a lot of poor countries yeah because that's how uh that's how a culture disappears over time is low birth rates oh yeah yeah no doubt yeah so do your part get that ivf son have babies have babies um any more we should cover we good i mean i think i think the single coming out october 3rd is once was all i wanted to make sure i talked about but i mean we've talked about a lot you guys are fucking great i enjoy you very much uh listen to you guys all the time in the green room you're in the green room playlist at the mothership heck yeah so we we love you guys you gotta come catch the show sometime I would love to.

2:21:17Did I tell you the story, the Kill Tony story? No. So our first time, 2024 was a wild year for us. Like, we got into Kill Tony, and we were loving it and watching it. And then a couple months later, it was like, you guys want to go see Shane Gillis? And we were like, yeah. They got us, like, they pulled us up backstage. And as soon as we get out of the van, Tony's sitting there smoking a cigarette. He's like, hey, what's up, guys? Hey, guys. And so we were starstruck immediately. and then met Shane and we kind of felt like Shane didn't know who we were so we think he slipped off to the green room to look us up 100 % it's like you guys just had a number one hit congratulations yeah he come back with a Google quote yeah 100 % yeah man but that was that was just incredible and then like a few months later we actually get to go to kill Tony and that was just another mind blown incredible oh my god what is happening and they were like hey somebody was like Rogan wasn't going to come out tonight but he wants to meet you guys so he's going to come out at Mitzi's and talk to you guys.

2:22:15Cool, man. They're getting a little nervous, a little freaked out. And we were at Mitzi's hanging out with Hans, Cam, Cam and all those guys. And then turn around and there you are standing there. I was like, oh my God, there he is. And you were standing there talking to people, though. Yeah, you got swallowed up immediately as you walked in the door. And me and Andrew were sitting at the bar and they were like, all right, I'm going in. I was like, no, man, just wait. I was like, you want to talk to him? I'm just going to send it, buddy. I'll do this for you. Hey, Mr. Joe. This is my friend Brandon.

2:22:44Yeah, let it happen naturally. Let it happen naturally. And so I was sitting there waiting on my time to strike, and I turned around to talk to somebody, and I turned back around where you were, and you were gone. So I felt like the biggest hammer drop of all time. I was like, dang, man. I felt extra bad because I was told that you wouldn't want to come out, but you were coming out to meet us, and I felt like we just sat there and ignored you. I didn't know you guys were there. Okay. It was a lot then. I did come out to meet you guys, But I got swarmed, and it was just like – I get weird sometimes.

2:23:14I'm like, got to go see you. I just get out of there. You ever had like six people you were carrying a conversation with at one time? We weren't about to be on top of that. We know we will cross paths when time's needed. We did it. I saw you also, and I missed my chance again, at UFC in December. Which one? In Vegas. Oh, okay. Yeah, you were commentating, and we were across from you on the other side of the arena. Theo was sitting behind you, I think. and we were on the direct other side. Incredible experience. Oh, my God. This is the first time you guys have ever been? Yeah. And Theo actually, he got an extra ticket to Super Slap, and he invited me out of that Fontainebleau.

2:23:51Oh, Power Slap. Power Slap, yeah. What a odd sport. Yeah, that won't be around for a long time. That is a CTE. Yeah, a factory. Brain damage is coming. It's a CTE farm. I don't get it. It's not my thing. It seems so bad for you to just, I mean, it is, obviously. 100 % terrible for you. Yeah. I don't know about that I mean they're concussed and then standing right back up there to get hit again I mean has there been a second impact syndrome case yet in power slap power slap's only been around for a couple years Dana's gonna be paying money to keep the studies away we gotta keep this going I just don't like it I don't know why people like it but I do watch it if somebody sends me a video and I watch some guy get slap KO'd I will watch it because I watched two hours or an hour of fucking dick operations last night.

2:24:41How do you feel about, like, bare knuckle? That's different. I mean— It's dangerous, but it's still— It's dangerous. It is skillful. It's like there's guys that are really good at it and guys that avoid being hit and guys that are just really durable and they make their mark in that. Like, look, if you can punch someone with regular gloves, why can't you punch someone bare knuckle? It's probably better for your brain because you can't get hit as hard. Slightly. They're not standing there just waiting for it. You get a lot of— That connection, though, when they hit and you don't have a glove one, you see them.

2:25:11You see the shock it puts through you. The noise power slap makes in real life is uncanny. It's weird. When you hear that in real life, it's like, I've never heard a noise like that before, and that was on somebody's face. Not good. Yeah. Not good. And sometimes they get KO'd, and then their head slaps the table, and then they fall backwards stiff. Combo. I don't like it. I felt weird. It's like watching a cockfight or something. Exactly. But, hey, you know, you sign up. You want to do it. No one's forcing you. Do whatever you want. You want to ride bulls? Go ahead. Yeah. Flip bikes. Whatever you want to do.

2:25:48Yeah, some people do. You want to evil-knievel your way through life? After that, though, we got to meet Dana, and he hooked us up with the fight tickets. Oh, nice. I seen you. And then I was like, oh, this will be my chance. and you would afterward we left our seats and then we were going out and then you immediately stood up and walked right in front of where I was sitting. So I was like, dang, I missed it again. Is the White House thing supposed to be? There's a concert aspect to it. Really? We want to put our name in the bucket. Is there really? Supposedly. Oh, wow. Interesting. Who's supposed to perform so far?

2:26:21I don't think anybody yet. Oh, I didn't even know there was a concert aspect to it. That's what we've heard. Our agents heard at least. Interesting. This is the first time I've heard of it. that makes sense though come play our sad music for yeah heck yeah everyone's buzz it's emotional music i don't think it's sad doesn't make me sad um yeah the white house thing's gonna be nuts but listen man that's june that is so long from now who the knows what's gonna happen in this wacky world between now and june the aliens could have already landed i can't wait to see the card though oh yeah i hope it happens well he's gonna try to put together the greatest card of all time.

2:26:59I know that. So they're going to try to get as many insane fights as they can. Before people come jumping on us for that, it'd be an honor to play at the White House, period, no matter who's in office. It's like, what happened to just being able to go and meet the president without being It should be cool. It should be a cool thing. It shouldn't be polarized. I'd like to meet Trump, but I'd also like to meet Obama. He seems pretty dang cool. That would be cool. Just going to the White House would be a big honor. Yeah. Sure. Well, hopefully you guys can. Yeah, we'll see. Who cares? Just keep kicking ass.

2:27:30You'll get there. We'll see. I don't know. Hopefully the less polarizing times by the time you get in there. But thank you for being here. I appreciate you guys very much. And thanks for making awesome music. It's been fun to meet you. Awesome. All right. Good to meet you, bud. Great Clay Stray, ladies and gentlemen. Bye.

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