#2436 - Whitney Cummings

10 Jan 2026 · 3 h 33 min · 104 chapters

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Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2436 with Whitney Cummings

Episode Overview In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, comedian and actress Whitney Cummings joins Joe Rogan. The discussion dives into various topics, including personal anecdotes, social commentary, and cultural observations, with a humorous and satirical edge. Cummings shares insights about her life, career, and the entertainment industry, while Rogan prompts with his characteristic curiosity.

Key Themes & Discussions

  1. Childhood Nostalgia and Dangerous Toys
  2. Rogan and Cummings reminisce about childhood experiences involving dangerous toys, like candy cigarettes and lawn darts.
  3. They discuss how children were allowed to engage in risky play, which seems to have diminished in modern society.
  1. The Impact of Pharmaceuticals
  2. Discussion on the prevalence of ADHD diagnoses and medication like Adderall.
  3. Cummings challenges the idea that pharmaceuticals are the only solution, suggesting that many individuals may benefit from alternative approaches.
  1. Cultural Commentary on Parenting and Education
  2. Cummings shares her perspective as a new mother and the complexities of raising children in today’s environment.
  3. They explore different educational philosophies, like Finland's approach to delaying reading instruction until age seven to foster focus.
  1. Woke Culture and Comedy
  2. Both Rogan and Cummings express concerns about cancel culture and the impact of woke ideology on comedy.
  3. They emphasize the importance of free expression and the need for comedians to push boundaries without fear of backlash.
  1. Personal Health and Wellness Trends
  2. Cummings talks about her health journey, including her experiences with holistic remedies and the rise of trends like red light therapy.
  3. Rogan shares his insights on fitness and wellness, drawing from his own experiences and research.
  1. Historical Context and Modern Parallels
  2. The conversation shifts to historical events, drawing parallels between past societal behaviors and current cultural trends.
  3. They touch on psychological operations used by governments to manipulate public perception, referencing the CIA's tactics during the Cold War.
  1. Humor and Vulnerability
  2. Cummings reflects on the vulnerability comedians display in their work and the role of humor in addressing personal and societal issues.
  3. They discuss the balance between maintaining a public persona and managing private life challenges.

Notable Quotes

  • *“When I think about my injuries as a kid, I’m like, yeah, I got burned on the glue gun. They weren’t looking out for kids back then.”*
  • *“Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad.”*
  • *“You can’t just tax your way out of problems because we know that money goes and it’s grossly inefficient what they do with it.”*

Conclusion This episode encapsulates Rogan and Cummings' candid reflections on life, societal norms, and the role of humor in navigating complex issues. Their conversation weaves personal anecdotes with broader cultural critiques, providing listeners with both entertainment and food for thought.

Additional Resources

  • Whitney Cummings' latest special: [Mouthy on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@whitneycummings)
  • Cummings' podcast: [Good for You](https://www.whitneycummings.com)
  • CBS’s *Hollywood Squares*: [Show Information](https://www.cbs.com/shows/hollywood-squares/)

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Childhood Memories and Dangerous Toys

0:46 to 4:40

A discussion about childhood experiences with dangerous toys and habits, reflecting on how kids interacted with risky objects.

“You'd go, and like powdered sugar would come out.”

Toys and Trends of the Past

4:41 to 9:46

Exploration of various dangerous toys and trends from the past, including lawn darts and pogo sticks.

“From 78 to 86, approximately 6 ,100 to 6 ,700 people were treated in U.S.”

The Shift in Parenting and Safety Standards

9:47 to 12:44

A discussion on how parenting and safety standards have evolved, including past practices with hazardous materials and toys.

“Because all of a sudden, everyone hated you, too.”

Adderall and Mental Health

12:45 to 14:01

Conversations about the prevalence of Adderall use among professionals and its implications on mental health.

“It's a type of wine, but that's actually what the brand was called.”

Serial Killer Discussion

14:01 to 15:50

Exploring the implications of recent drownings in a gay neighborhood.

“They're trying to pretend that it's not really a serial killer.”

Historical Perspectives on Love

15:51 to 17:20

A humorous take on historical attitudes towards love and sexuality.

“Do you think phones will be like cigarettes?”

Future of Technology and Society

17:21 to 17:51

Discussing societal changes anticipated in the next decades, particularly regarding technology.

“It's the ultimate wireless hack to save money and still get great coverage and a reliable connection.”

The Importance of Backing Up Ideas

18:00 to 20:02

Exploring the significance of backing up personal notes and ideas.

“And Elephant was one I was using for a while.”

Misconceptions in Nutrition Science

20:03 to 22:33

Discussing the evolving understanding of nutrition and health guidelines over the years.

“What the fuck is this guy talking about?”

Bland Foods and Sexuality

22:34 to 25:19

A dive into the quirky history of breakfast cereals and their relation to sexuality.

“You're just like, what are you in this for?”
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Plant Defense Mechanisms

25:20 to 28:00

Discussing how plants can defend themselves chemically against herbivores.

“I think like it's important to have restraint and to have the option to do something.”

Plants Defense Mechanisms

28:00 to 29:38

Explore how plants adapt and defend themselves against herbivores.

“And so the wind comes down and the other plants recognize that they're being consumed.”

Nutritional Controversies

29:38 to 31:01

Discuss the debate around anti-nutrients in plants and their effects.

“anti-nutrients that harm digestion hormones or nutrient absorption.”

Pesticides and Food Safety

31:01 to 32:18

Uncover the impact of pesticides on food safety and health.

“heard from people that are pretty knowledgeable is that the issue might not be the actual plants itself.”

Alcohol and Health Perspectives

32:18 to 33:38

Examine the complex relationship between alcohol and health.

“And where do they like wines, good red wines, good for you.”

The Nature of Comedy and Ideas

33:38 to 35:47

Delve into how comedians collect and develop ideas for their routines.

“And when you hear something that's like, oh, that'd be such a good premise is like, ah, you know, sometimes I'll just like do what you do.”

Social Media Dynamics

35:47 to 37:08

Analyze the dual nature of social media in shaping public discourse.

“People come to shows now trying to get in a crowd work video.”

Comedians and Criticism

37:08 to 38:48

Understand how comedians react to criticism and online comments.

“Some of the hardest laughs that I get during the day are these memes that anonymous people have created and someone sends me.”

Fashion and Identity in Comedy

38:48 to 42:00

Discuss the intersection of fashion choices and personal identity in comedy.

“I just talked to Tim Dillon for an hour.”

Fashion Choices and Comfort

42:00 to 43:19

Discussing the trend of comfortable jeans and personal experiences with clothing.

“Like, I need to get back on the horse because I started buying sweatpants that look like jeans.”

Thoughts on the Roman Empire

43:20 to 44:59

Exploring the bizarre thoughts and historical impact of the Roman Empire.

“My god, dude I Like just like jerking off thinking about tigers tearing apart criminals.”

Public Spectacles of Violence

45:00 to 46:39

Comparing modern social media shaming to historical public violence.

“especially when combined with hunting, habitat loss, and warfare.”

The Nature of Online Criticism

46:40 to 48:19

Delving into the psychology behind negative online comments and public perception.

“You know, you're working at some defense contractor and you know they're doing something horrible or whatever.”

The Role of Comedy and Controversy

48:20 to 50:00

Discussing the balance of being controversial in comedy and audience reactions.

“The people I know that take the biggest risks and that, you know, are polarizing.”

Transparency in Charitable Funding

50:00 to 52:00

Analyzing the transparency and distribution of charitable donations and political funding.

“I have the best fucking dog in the world, and he came from a breeder.”

Critique of Charity Culture

55:15 to 56:01

Discussing the shortcomings and critiques of the charity culture in America.

“I think it's just a function of the whole social media ecosystem.”

The Charity Scam Phenomenon

56:01 to 56:48

Explore how the U.S. charity system can often misallocate funds meant for good causes.

“Charities are such a scam because it's like, well, no, this is where our taxes should be going to stuff.”

USAID and Hidden Agendas

56:49 to 58:03

Discuss the controversial aspects of USAID and its connections to political agendas.

“We're giving aid to all these other countries.”

Fraud in California's Charity Scene

58:04 to 59:25

Examine the shocking fraud cases in California's charity system and the implications.

“I don't even get how you hide that much money.”

Corruption and Wealth in Law Enforcement

59:26 to 1:00:26

Insights into corruption within law enforcement and the extravagant lifestyles that reveal it.

“And so he was selling drugs, robbing drug dealers, and showed up at work with a Corvette.”

Staged Scenarios and Reality

1:00:27 to 1:02:40

Delve into the phenomenon of staged scenarios in media and public perception.

“Keep the Corvette under a blanket and just drive a Honda to work.”

Medicaid Fraud and Misrepresentation

1:02:41 to 1:04:49

Investigate the rampant Medicaid fraud and the alarming tactics used.

“So that was like a staged reenactment or something?”

Political Accountability and Scandals

1:04:50 to 1:06:38

Discuss political accountability in the context of scandals involving public figures.

“There's also, like, there's these fake scams where there was one that they uncovered in Minnesota where they were supposedly feeding an exorbitant amount of children, and there was no kids.”

Media Outrage and Public Awareness

1:06:39 to 1:08:28

Explore how media outrage shapes public awareness and the perception of issues.

“I do the same where I'm like, why doesn't he open with?”

Investigating Financial Security Measures

1:08:29 to 1:10:02

Examine the implications of financial security measures within communities and their scrutiny.

“And then once you click on something, they're just going to keep feeding you more and more of that.”

Investigation into Minneapolis Airport Cash Flows

1:10:02 to 1:13:46

Explore the investigation into substantial cash flows detected at the Minneapolis Airport and the implications of the findings.

“Or you're coming off of whatever they put you on to get you up.”

Evaluating Sources of Information

1:13:46 to 1:17:05

Discussion on the credibility of news sources and their political biases, particularly regarding the TSA cash flow report.

“Is that Is that a legitimate organization?”

The Doomsday Plane and Its Functions

1:17:05 to 1:20:40

Learn about the capabilities and purpose of the U.S. doomsday plane, including its endurance and strategic role in crises.

“The doomsday plane that, I mean, could just be a sigh out, but it's the doomsday plane.”

Geopolitical Implications of U.S. Actions

1:20:40 to 1:24:00

An analysis of U.S. foreign policy actions regarding Venezuela and the implications of these actions on global dynamics.

“they built a replica of the building and were blindfolded, going through it, practicing it and stuff.”

Bounty on Maduro and U.S. Oil Interests

1:24:00 to 1:25:18

Explore the U.S. government's involvement in Venezuelan politics and oil.

“Well, he had a bounty on him by the Biden administration.”

Helium and Resource Concerns

1:25:18 to 1:26:18

Whitney discusses the finite nature of resources like helium.

“I won't be able to have a birthday party for my son.”

The Impact of Oil Nationalization in Iran

1:26:18 to 1:28:42

Learn about the historical context of Iran's oil nationalization and U.S. involvement.

“was involved in overthrowing the legitimate government of Iran.”

Historical Lessons from Gradual Change

1:28:42 to 1:30:00

Discuss the slow progression of societal changes in Iran and parallels to modern contexts.

“They just got, you know, it was like they, you know, slowly started, you know, seizing art and then, you know, not letting them get jobs.”

Animal Rights and Horse Carriages in NYC

1:30:00 to 1:31:28

Debate surrounding the ethics of horse-drawn carriages in New York City.

“we saw the orca kill the trainer but stuff like that happens so often and they just cover it up.”

Housing Policies and Government Intervention

1:31:28 to 1:35:20

Analyze the controversial housing policies proposed by city officials.

“I pitched them, like, do robot horses, like, sick dinosaurs.”

Diversity of Thought and Political Hypocrisy

1:35:20 to 1:36:49

Whitney and Joe discuss the concept of diversity of thought in politics.

“When you have these blanket progressive ideas, you've attached yourself to an ideology and that ideology you'll defend because it's your identity.”

The Cost of Living in New York City

1:38:00 to 1:39:59

Discussing the high expenses and unique challenges of living in New York.

“This is what whatever 100 million dollars or whatever gets you in New York.”

Experiences Living in NYC

1:40:00 to 1:41:29

Whitney shares her personal experiences and anecdotes about living in New York.

“disassociated you're not disconnected from the outside world that's right and just atrophy like and less resilient and, you know, and, you know, so what am I talking about?”

Infrastructure Issues in New York

1:41:30 to 1:43:41

Discussing the infrastructural challenges and political implications in NYC.

“So half the time I'd be sleeping and like a bunch of dudes would just like get off, you know.”

Celebrity Encounters in NYC

1:43:42 to 1:45:44

Conversations about celebrity interactions and peculiar incidents.

“He does like the film festival there and everything, right?”

Dangerous Jobs and Health Risks

1:45:45 to 1:48:26

Exploring the health risks associated with various jobs and historical anecdotes.

“it's good security guard patrolling the building around 6 30 p.m.”

The Impact of Technology on Health

1:48:27 to 1:51:26

Discussing how technology affects health and the importance of self-care.

“Well, there's some images of a radium sickness.”

Beauty Standards and Aging

1:51:27 to 1:52:00

Whitney reflects on beauty standards, aging, and personal choices regarding appearance.

“You know, one of the things that you're supposed to do is if you're staring at something like really close to your face all the time, you should take breaks and look at things that are far away.”

The Botox Debate

1:52:00 to 1:52:50

Whitney discusses her experience with Botox and societal pressures.

“And because I was like, you know, look, the Botox thing is like TV executive ages ago when I was truly like in my 20s.”

Perceptions of Aging in Men

1:52:50 to 1:54:50

The conversation shifts to how aging is perceived differently in men and women.

“Why not enjoy the benefit of age looking good on a man?”

The Fake Award Prank

1:54:50 to 1:56:00

Discussion about a prank involving Bill Cosby and a fake award from Harvard.

“I'm sure he's been in a bunch of stuff I enjoy.”

Conan's Prank on Cosby

1:56:00 to 1:58:00

Whitney and Joe talk about Conan O'Brien's elaborate prank on Cosby.

“Conan O 'Brien convinced Cosby that he was awarded fake the Harvard Lampoon's lifetime achievement in comedy to be presented at Harvard.”

Nostalgia for 'The Cosby Show'

1:58:00 to 1:58:40

They reminisce about the impact of 'The Cosby Show' and its irony now.

“And before he was a monster, he was, I mean, like you look at that image there, that's a black and white image.”

Conversations about Gynecologists

1:58:40 to 2:00:20

Whitney shares anecdotes about gynecologists and boundaries in relationships.

“How about that one episode where he had his secret barbecue sauce that made everybody horny?”

Trends in Body Decoration

2:00:20 to 2:01:50

The discussion turns to humorous trends in body decoration like glitter butts.

“That is – I mean it is interesting that today for a guy to become a gynecologist – I It was like the only way, you know, only men could be back in the day.”

Hazards of Film Makeup

2:01:50 to 2:02:50

They discuss the dangerous makeup used in classic films like 'The Wizard of Oz'.

“That was another thing that hoes would do back in the day.”

Fear Factor Stories

2:03:20 to 2:06:00

Joe shares his experiences on 'Fear Factor' and its impact on his perspective.

“But isn't there something about like smelly?”

The Surprising Success of Fear Factor

2:06:00 to 2:07:00

Learn about the unexpected entertainment value and competition in the show 'Fear Factor'.

“Like, yeah, this is how you get ahead in this world.”

Emotional Moments in Competition

2:07:00 to 2:08:20

Discussion of emotional moments in competitions and their impact on participants and viewers.

“And then the kid fumbled and fucked things up and the dad fucked things up.”

The Thrill of Football

2:08:20 to 2:10:00

Exploration of the thrilling moments in football and why fans connect with the game.

“it's like i think he posted something about you know when like runners don't finish the race and the dad comes out and like helps him cross the finish line or something oh gosh i love shit like that so much.”

The Psychology of Team Sports

2:10:00 to 2:11:20

Discussing the psychological aspects of being a fan and the dynamics of team sports.

“Here's what I realized, and I realized this at the UT game.”

Moments of Redemption in Sports

2:11:20 to 2:12:40

Highlighting instances where players have redemption or surprising moments in sports.

“It's a really, it's a stupid thing to say, we.”

Floyd Mayweather's Unique Training

2:12:40 to 2:14:10

Insight into Floyd Mayweather's training methods and what made him successful.

“Also, but I think the we of it also happens to, you know, the reason I think as live performers, when you see a team like the Eagles do so, so well, and then this last time they played the Rams just fall apart.”

The Genetics of Boxing Talent

2:14:10 to 2:15:40

Exploring the genetic advantages and training styles that contribute to boxing success.

“It refers to his gym's notoriously grueling sparring sessions known for intense, no-rules fighting until someone quits, designed to push boxers to their absolute limits.”

Roy Jones Jr.'s Unique Style

2:15:40 to 2:17:20

Discussion of Roy Jones Jr.'s fighting style and his impact on boxing.

“So one of them, his dad, Jesus Christ, his dad was Floyd Mayweather Sr.”

The Evolution of Boxing Techniques

2:17:20 to 2:20:00

Analyzing innovative boxing techniques and how they change the sport.

“But the jab is the most important punch in boxing.”

Analyzing Boxing Techniques and Legends

2:20:00 to 2:21:08

Explore the significance of boxing techniques and legendary fighters.

“He's trying to get up and he's face planting.”

The Evolution of Boxing Training

2:21:08 to 2:22:39

Learn how training methods in boxing have changed over the years.

“And then, you know, because it used to be like you could just fight and people saw the fight once and that was it.”

Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano: Heavyweight Icons

2:22:39 to 2:24:15

Discover the stories of heavyweight champions Jack Dempsey and Rocky Marciano.

Cultural Perspectives on Immigrant Experiences

2:24:15 to 2:26:16

Discuss the immigrant experience and its impact on identity and culture.

“later in his time, you know, but he had had a long career.”

Quakers, Amish, and American Heritage

2:26:16 to 2:28:18

Examine the role of Quakers and Amish in American history and society.

“I'm obsessed with Italian immigrants because like you go to Italy all the time.”

The Value of Hard Work and Skills

2:28:18 to 2:30:28

Understand the importance of hard work and practical skills in society.

“I'm in Amish core algorithm where it's men build barns in a day.”

Toxic Jobs vs. Modern Work Risks

2:30:28 to 2:32:14

Compare the dangers of traditional jobs with those of modern desk jobs.

“He might have actually been a carpenter.”

Innovations in Strength Training Equipment

2:32:14 to 2:34:00

Learn about innovative training equipment that enhances safety and effectiveness.

“It's supposed to be left outside to stop insects.”

The Mechanics of Squatting Safely

2:34:00 to 2:35:27

Learn about the importance of proper form and safety when squatting with weights.

“But the problem with squats is if you're squatting heavy, you've got all that weight on your back.”

Incorporating Weighted Vests for Strength

2:35:28 to 2:36:55

Discover the benefits of using weighted vests in daily activities and workouts.

“You 100 % can, especially if you could build up to it.”

Red Light Therapy: Benefits and Skepticism

2:36:56 to 2:38:34

Explore the effects of red light therapy and the skepticism around health trends.

“So Huberman gave me the it's called it's a red light, but it's like sauna space or it's just a bulb.”

The Bias in Medical Studies

2:38:35 to 2:40:18

Understand the biases that can affect the outcomes of medical studies and trials.

“I don't know how much of that is for real.”

Youth Maturity: Boys vs. Girls

2:40:19 to 2:42:34

Discuss the differences in maturation rates between boys and girls and their implications.

“I'm just fascinating because as someone who is a flawed, desperate person who needed$50, I was very much like, well, what about this?”

Testosterone, Intelligence, and Stereotypes

2:42:35 to 2:44:27

Examine the relationship between testosterone levels and perceptions of intelligence.

“we have an agreement at 18 you get it Yeah.”

The Nature of Intelligence and Knowledge

2:44:28 to 2:47:25

Reflect on what defines intelligence and the value of wisdom over mere knowledge.

“And I'm not interested, even if I have normal testosterone.”

Questioning Medical Knowledge

2:48:00 to 2:49:20

The discussion explores the reliability of medical textbooks and journals.

“bunch of stuff from a book that like wasn't weren't our textbooks written by like galane Maxwell's dad or something.”

Mathematics and the Universe

2:49:20 to 2:53:40

They delve into the relationship between mathematics and the structure of the universe.

“Humans invented that so that they could figure out how the universe is made.”

AI and Human Governance

2:53:40 to 2:59:00

The conversation shifts to AI's potential influence on human governance and societal structures.

“But the Pythagorean school of thought in ancient Greece held a different view.”

The Benefits of Bee Stings

2:59:00 to 3:01:00

They discuss the health benefits of bee stings and their potential therapeutic uses.

“And what is it that if a bee stings you, does it help with inflammation?”

The Rise of GLP-1 Medications

3:01:00 to 3:02:00

The hosts talk about the popularity and implications of GLP-1 medications for obesity.

“It's like more than 10 million in this country.”

GLP-1 Prescriptions and Weight Loss

3:02:00 to 3:03:24

Learn about the rise in GLP-1 prescriptions and their impact on health.

“Publicly available from major sources as data through September shows rapid growth but lacks a December closeout.”

Combining Weight Loss Medications with Fitness

3:03:25 to 3:05:10

Discover the importance of combining weight loss medications with strength training.

“So there's an idea that they would combine them with, I think they did something with peptides, like an IGF-1 along with this, and the two of them together keep you from wasting away.”

Evaluating Friendships and Emotional Diet

3:05:11 to 3:07:13

Understand how emotional and mental diets influence relationships.

“And if one of us is not trying to do that, one of us is out for self.”

Comics and the Pandemic's Impact

3:07:14 to 3:08:37

Explore how the pandemic affected comedians' interactions and creativity.

“Like sometimes stand up is like saying something that isn't true and then proving it, you know.”

Woke Culture and Comedy's Response

3:08:38 to 3:09:53

Examine the tension between woke culture and comedic expression.

“And because it's not based on logic, it has to be very angry.”

CIA Influences on Culture and Psyops

3:09:54 to 3:11:53

Learn about historical CIA operations and their influence on culture.

“In 1970, acid, mushrooms, DMT, all that stuff becomes illegal.”

Vampire Myths and CIA Tactics

3:11:54 to 3:14:03

Discover the bizarre tactics used by the CIA to manipulate perceptions.

“How did they kill them before they drained their blood?”

The Power of Fear and Psychological Warfare

3:14:04 to 3:16:01

Understand how fear can be used as a tool in psychological operations.

“I think someone has actually done the numbers on this, that mathematically vampires would wind up killing everyone.”

Exploring Dark Historical Tactics

3:16:01 to 3:17:21

The discussion delves into historical psychological operations and their implications.

“If this is what we know, what do we not know?”

Modern Marketing and Manipulation

3:17:21 to 3:19:44

They explore the transition from advertising to psychological manipulation in warfare.

“And they can do things like the Gulf of Tonkin, where they just decide that they're going to pretend that we got attacked so that we can go to war.”

Health Trends and Dental Myths

3:19:44 to 3:21:19

The conversation shifts to health trends, including dental practices and natural remedies.

“Because I know they do interfere with bees.”

Cell Phones, Bees, and EMF Concerns

3:21:19 to 3:23:31

They discuss the effects of cell phone signals on bees and speculate about human impacts.

“I mean, there is, Jamie, you can find this, and I won't to corroborate it because I won't know the exact year.”

Technology's Influence on Memory

3:23:31 to 3:25:14

The hosts reflect on how technology shapes memory and cognition in modern life.

“Okay, what are you getting people excited about?”
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0:00Joe Rogan Podcast,

0:14check it out! Yeah, he just holds on to them. Oh! And he holds on to them, then he swaps them out for a new one. Was the unlit cigarette like the original fidget spinner? Well, most people don't do it because most people, when they have a cigarette in their hand, they want to light it. But Dice has got the ability to just hold on to the cigarette. Do you remember when candy cigarettes were a toy for kids? Yeah, I had those. Oh, yeah. They were priming you. Totally. And they would poof. Like sugar would come out. No, I don't remember that. Oh, yeah. You'd go, and like powdered sugar would come out.

0:51Really? Yeah. Am I right, Jamie? Am I making that up? I remember them just being like a candy that you suck on. Or was that just the cocaine my parents put on it? It was just a candy stick. A nasty chalk stick. Maybe there was a different one. Maybe there's more than one kind of candy cigarette. Couldn't you? There was like gummy cigars, I remember. And then the candy cigarettes. That must have been them just trying to get you addicted to just like the motion of it or like participate with your parents or something. Yeah, it was just a way to sell candy, but probably also engineered by the tobacco companies.

1:23That was back when they were lying about cigarettes being addictive, too, and causing cancer. They used to prescribe it to pregnant women, right? They used to prescribe it for kids with asthma. Yeah. You need to strengthen those lungs up, fella. And this is my favorite thing. did they know they already knew yeah they already they already know everybody had to know you smoke cigarettes for a while you start coughing up black shit you feel terrible according to the internet this this pack did have some sort of would blow smoke according to this person on Facebook I remember a play lighter or lighter battery so a battery smoke that was stuck on this battery what the fuck as kids we would suck on actual batteries we want to go Oh, yeah.

2:08Remember when you lick them? Dude, we went to try to lecture. Those nine volts? Just the square ones? Yeah, the nine volts. We'd be in school just like, lick it, lick it, lick it. Yeah, we would lick it just to get a jolt in your tongue. Ooh. It is wild. Like, yes, the phones are obviously very bad for kids. But when you think about the stuff we did as kids, I was just like, I would just hang out with a light socket for like two hours. That's all I needed. A paper clip, light socket. Light socket? Or like a, yeah. Electric socket? Electric socket. You would go into an electric socket with a paper clip?

2:37Did no one else do this? That's really bad. Did you inhale glue or no? Oh, I sniffed it. Rubber cement? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay. Oh, I used to love making models. I used to make like Godzilla models. You know those? Oh, with glue? Do you remember those models? Yeah. You had rubber cement glue. Do you remember those? Yeah, yeah. You would. And Elmer's too. Yeah. You could peel it off your skin. We'd just put it on our skin and just peel it off. Oh, yeah. Just like a leprosy fetish or something. Yeah. But the rubber cement glue was a big one though. A lot of people sniff glue. We used to have a glue gun.

3:08My mom had a glue gun. For what? Like a hot glue gun to crafts, arts, crafts. Okay. Kill men. I don't know. When you look back at shit your parents did, you're like, what was that? What were you interested in? Why did she have powdered gold and put it in coffee of the men she was dating? What was that? But like a glue gun. Like there was just so much dangerous shit growing up. When I think about my injuries as a kid, I'm like, yeah, I got burned on the glue gun. Everyone's like, huh? Yeah. They weren't looking out for kids back then. like when did they start like worrying about dangerous toys i i mean after like the 50th lawn dart you know aorta puncture oh i remember the lawn darts those are crazy just throwing like fucking weapon and they were heavy if they hit you in the head you would die dude just like tetanus right in the heart let's let's look this up how many people do you think have died from lawn tarts.

4:01By the way, way more than is reported, for sure. Right, right, right. I'm just putting this here so I don't care. It has to be dozens. And seesaws. Oh, yeah. You remember seesaws? No seatbelt, no, just plywood with handles. Right, with a handle. But we would also, it's such a testament to our nature, because we would make it even more dangerous. Remember, you'd be on the seesaw, if you were up, you'd jump off it to watch the kid. Just to watch the kid fucking plummet to the earth. So sadistic. Just careened to the ground. Okay, what does our sponsor Perplexity said? Pointed metal lawn darts were officially linked to three child deaths in the United States before they were banned.

4:40Just three? Definitely more than that. Officially linked. From 78 to 86, approximately 6 ,100 to 6 ,700 people were treated in U.S. emergency rooms for lawn dart injuries, most of them children. found lawn dart injuries led to a 4 % case fatality rate in its patient sample with many severe head and eye injuries, which helped justify the eventual ban. So only a couple, but mostly children. I would like to know the story of the adults. But, I mean, people hit people with shovels. All the time. I guess it's because lawn darts are a toy that they had a bandit. Yeah, there was a lot of that. Remember, what are they, pogo sticks?

5:25Mm-hmm. I mean, those were so dangerous when you think about it. They were just like, they were just like always. They still have those, though. Pogo sticks, those were hard to do. They looked up the most dangerous toys for kids. Trampolines. Remember the ones with the metal coils? Oh, did you ever see the atomic energy lab in the 1950s? Yes. Yeah, it actually had legitimate radioactive material. I love that they were like, you know what, guys, child labor, this is inhumane, this is wrong. Come, come, go, play with some toys. Here's a radioactive uranium bomb. Well, didn't Michio Kaku make some sort of a reactor in his basement or his backyard or something like that when he was a child?

6:04When he was in high school, I think. Yeah. Legend. He's like a legitimate scientist. But, I mean, when he was a child, he made a fucking nuclear reactor in his backyard. I went to get NyQuil or Sudafed the other day, and they made me show my ID. Oh, yeah, because you can make meth with it. Right, right, right, right. Sick. Meanwhile, you can get a prescription for Adderall. You just say you have ADHD. I don't even think you have to do that. You just have to be like, I'm bored. Right. I'm neurodivergent. Yeah. Right. I mean, it's all self-diagnosed. You can't concentrate. Are we going to look back the way that we look at the Nazis and go, they were on meth?

6:41Are we going to look back in 20 years and be like, everyone was on meth? Yeah. Yeah, everyone's on Adderall. That's for damn sure. I mean, the amount of journalists that are on Adderall is off the charts. A friend of mine was telling me, like, all of his colleagues take Adderall. To help them work. Yeah. Because they have so many projects that they're doing that require intense fucking research. Googling, saying chat GPT, please write my article for me. Did you see, I think it was the New York Times, or someone left in. uh jamie do you remember the prompt that ends the you know what it spits out on chat gpt to prove that they had just copy and pasted it like wild yeah well there's a lot of that there's a lot of shitty people in every walk of life there's bad doctors bad plumbers bad journalists but a lot of them are on adderall a lot of them are on speed it's just that there's so much adrenaline out there to get there's so many like natural ways i feel like to get that you know yeah but i don't think it covers you i think if you really want to like sit in front of that fucking computer and bang out words it seems like adderall's the way to go but if you really do have add or whatever this is like i'm the first to say like what are all these diagnoses um but because i was prescribed five milligrams slow release adderall to sleep to sleep if you actually have it it calms you down it doesn't amp you up what is it what is it adhd the inability to focus or the real a busy brain dude i look i just i think a lot of our superpowers are being dull a lot of people with superpowers are being dulled by pharma and we're being pathologized for actually kind of extreme strengths you know in a lot of ways so there's a lot of like legitimate people that are arguing that about ADHD.

8:28Okay, good. I'm not like a nut. No, like legitimate psychologists, neuroscientists. What it is is you can't concentrate on things you're not interested in, but you can concentrate on things you're interested in heavily. People that supposedly have ADHD, they can play video games for fucking 10 hours a day. That's right. That's exactly right. Well, how come? Because it's exciting. Oh, they can't sit in a classroom and watch some pedophile lecture them on fake history while they're getting hemorrhoids and some like chair with like shitty lighting above them i mean it's like yeah of course kids are bored of course they can't sit still exactly you know well it was i was reading about how finland they don't um uh teach their kids to read until they're like seven because uh it's better to have them develop their ability to focus first on the things they want to do so by the time they do learn to read they actually you know can focus sounds like a terrible idea you're gonna be so far behind my kids Well, yeah.

9:20I mean, look. Kids in America learn how to read when they're little babies. If at all. If at all. If they do. Like, I mean, yeah, that's the other thing. When it's like, don't teach kids to read. It's like, by that time, is Nerling just going to learn to read for them? Who knows? It's interesting, like, having a kid. Now I'm like, what world do I prepare them for? Do I even teach them Mandarin? Or is that just going to be like, remember when you two just put a song on our phone? Mm-hmm. It was so weird. Well, that was Apple's idea. And, you know, I talked to Bono about that. It was devastating for them.

9:50Because all of a sudden, everyone hated you, too. They used to love you, too. They had so many hits. They're so good. And then all of a sudden, fuck you. Why are you on my phone? Isn't that interesting, the human nature of I love something unless you force it on me? Yeah. Well, it's just people are always looking for a reason to complain. And if you have this song on your phone right away, like, hey, fuck these guys. But also, I want to hunt. Let me find it. Let me feel like I discovered something. Well, I think they just thought it would be a great way to promote this new album. And they just really didn't understand human nature.

10:24It's also, yeah, it used to be like if you saw five billboards for something, you're like, I got to see that movie. Now you see like five ads for it and you're like, why are you trying so hard? Like if it's good, I'll hear about it. Yeah, I try to tell that to my friends. Like do not get overexposed. I mean, I don't just say no to everything because I'm not interested in doing anything more. Yeah, but it's also because I'm clearly overexposed and you got to know when you're overexposed But I have friends that like they'll do every fucking interview that anybody asked do every project that comes up Yeah, they never have any time like I gotta slow down.

10:56Yeah, you gotta slow down. Like why are you doing all this shit? You're already wealthy. Yeah, why are you doing this be a little mysterious? Live a fucking life live a life on top of what you're doing live an actual life don't wait until you're 60 and go what did i do right even if it's for if you need to justify it through workaholic purposes like it took me so long to get out of my workaholism the first time i had to do it by justifying it by going i'll be better at my work if i have a life like for art to imitate life you have to have a life that's how i'm gonna go get stories that's how i'm gonna go you know i think especially as comic now there's a lot of funny people out there I think if we've learned anything from memes and stuff you're like I don't this guy just works at Best Buy and who made this mean this is hilarious you know I think in the beginning a lot of it was like stolen from comics remember like that fat Jewish didn't oh yeah whatever happened to that guy there was another one too I don't know but he was stealing memes or he was stealing jokes I think turning him into memes there's a couple where you would go like that's a Mitch Hedberg joke like that's definitely a Steven Wright joke or Dimitri or something but like zach alfanakis or it would be um lesser known comics you know like they'd go to a lesser known comic feed like people that wrote for fallon or leno right you know go to a showcase night at the store or like get their tweets you can just pull their tweets and change them a little bit whatever happened to that guy because he was hated or when he got started getting exposed he was hated and then he just kind of vanished he was huge for a while there was another one too And I don't remember the name of it that was doing the same exact thing.

12:30But the fat Jewish guy almost seemed like he was like a corporate created entity. He had like the crazy hair. Right. That weird fucking bun. That's right. Yeah. He was like a slob. But he had like a wine. He sold it to Anheuser-Busch for millions of dollars. I don't know how much. What did he sell? A rosé. Right. What is rosé? It's a type of wine, but that's actually what the brand was called. Oh, no, no, no. I know what Rosé wine is. Oh, I was like, please flip that. My heart cannot take Rogan. He made a Rosé called Rosé. What the fuck's Rosé? I know what Rosé the wine is. It's called Babe. I see that now.

13:06Rosé company called Babe. Oh, so he sold his wine and then he just like, I'm out? For millions and now, yeah, it says he's about to open a bank. Oh, God. Where do I sign up? It must be hilarious if he's opening up a bank. Definitely didn't steal those jokes. Yeah. Most really hilarious people want to open a fucking bank. I love that he's just like, I'm Jewish. What am I good at? Just open a bank. Like, what? What if he turned out he's not even Jewish? Exactly. He's a Baptist or something. Yeah, Jews are like, we're not fat. What is it? Like, get your shit together. But also, yeah, that was so, like, for a second there, I was like, Joe, there's a chance he doesn't know what Rose is.

13:40No, no, no, no. I know what that is. You know? I just thought it was a company. It's what, like, the Raining Street killer gives his victims before pushing them off? Dude, your boy Brandon over here, I was like, what's up with the Raining Street killer? I always want, like, the updates on the Austin And he said, he's like, I think it's tech guys. They come down from San Francisco during South by Southwest. And he strikes when it's like a tech conference. Really? And he doesn't live here. Yeah. They're trying to pretend that it's not really a serial killer. The cops want to say it's not really a serial killer.

14:11And I'm like, how many guys have to drown before you start getting nervous? So they're only gay, these guys? Well, it's a gay neighborhood. That's the thing. Not all of Rainy Street, but there's a lot of gay bars and gay spots on Rainy Street. How do the cops know the victims are gay? They smell them. They just check their assholes. They're like, hey, I fucked the corpse's asshole. He's gay. They bring a dilator. You know, I've seen that guy in Grindr. He is gay. It reminds me of the Nazi. It's been 10 minutes and I brought up Nazis twice. that Nazis also killed gay people. And, like, I'm obsessed with how there were Nazis that had to find out who was gay.

14:59So did Christians. Oh, really? Of course. It's in the Bible. To be like, I just fucked these guys. They are gay. Let's get them. In the old days in the Bible, if a man layeth with another man, you're supposed to be put to death. That means, like, someone signed up to be like, I'll do it. I'll investigate who's gay around here. Well, the thing is, though, they were all gay. Yeah. That's the crazy thing. If you go back in history, guys were fucking each other all the time. The Spartans did it. They had a philosophy that you would defend your lover more because if you were fighting alongside a man that you loved, you would defend him more.

15:36Was it love? Is that what love is? I don't know. I'm still trying to figure it out. Everybody's got their own definition for that. What is it? Love is mysterious. That's wild. I always am like, what are the things we're doing now that we're going to look back in 50 years? And be like, remember in 2006 when they were doing that? Trans surgeries. Hmm? 100%, especially on children. Also having phones 24-7. 100%. Do you think phones will be like cigarettes? We'll be like. No, no. It'll be in your body by then. Oh, right. It'll be fun. They'll be laughing. Remember when you used to have to carry your phone around?

16:09Right. Back in my day. Right, right, right, right. You could leave your phone at a restaurant. Remember when you couldn't just print from your mouth? Mm-hmm. Remember when you could find a phone and just make calls from it because there was no passwords? You found someone's flip phone. You just open that bitch up and start calling people. Yeah. You have to shut your phone off. You have to go to the Verizon store and go, hey, shut my fucking phone off. And by then it was just over. Yeah, the guys were calling China. That was the other thing. You would have roaming charges. Do you remember those?

16:40Yes. Also, remember when you lost your phone and that was it? Oh, yeah. Now I can find my phone within my own house. It'll tell me what room it's in. Well, not only that, if I don't find my phone, I could just go to the Apple store and my phone is in the cloud. And then instantaneously, I get a new phone that's the same phone as my old phone with all my messages, all my notes, which is even more. My notes are more important than my messages because I keep so many material ideas. But you back them up. Oh, yeah. Always. This episode is brought to you by Visible. Have you heard of Visible? It's the one-line wireless with unlimited data and hotspot for$25 a month.

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18:02I use Evernote. I back them up. Oh, yeah. I like Evernote. And Elephant was one I was using for a while. it's like same thing like organize helps like organize because you can also search like by keyword you know because sometimes like I've look mom brain you know is real uh but I think it's kind of good I think it's like it's like a software update it's like deleting shit I didn't need to be remembering anyway that's a nice way of coping you know like my hippocampus was just full of some I actually in some ways feel like you might be smarter if you forget half the shit you know because half the shit we learned has been debunked anyway like half of like science and history like is not even so me unknowing it might even make me smarter like Andrew Huberman was having a conversation with a professor at Stanford and he said what percentage of what's in medical journals and what's taught in school is no longer applicable he said at least 50 percent unbelievable at least 50 percent of the stuff that they were telling people like look they just turned the food pyramid upside down yesterday the food pyramid not only did it used to just be like like brand muffins it was just like bear claw like what the fuck yeah you need spaghetti that's number one spaghetti o's at the base it was so crazy ravioli slightly above that and remember they just had a fish with like eyeballs like oh yeah that's actually probably a good one now but um but at the top you know now like the littlest amount of stuff you're supposed to get is grains and you're supposed to get meat and eggs at the bottom which was always i mean look there was a study that was like widely criticized fairly recently that labeled fruit loops as being healthier than ground beef but who sponsored that study that's the thing about all these things it's like who are these people and can i see them naked yeah that's it take your fucking clothes off let me see what you look like that's my same thing about quotes you know how like we're in this quote culture where you'll just like and you probably don't have this in your algorithm but it's like inspiring quotes and i'm like i need to know who said it i need to know who said it a lot of times it's fake you'll see quotes attributed to einstein sure and then i'll try to find out if it's real and it's not right right right but it's just sort of like it's like slightly anti-semitic quotes you know you're like hmm oh aristotle really say this right right the stoics yeah like I don't know, man.

20:25There weren't even Jews back then. What the fuck is this guy talking about? I'm going to unfollow Ari Shafir once and for all. But it said General Mills on it. It said GM on the side. When we were all looking at this pyramid, we knew that General Mills put this pyramid out. Right. And we didn't even think that there was a conflict of interest there. Did you know how the whole Kellogg's serial thing came about? The Jerry Seinfeld movie? No. Kellogg's. Yeah. Do you know, like, why he decided to make, like, these bland cereals? Why? To keep people from masturbating. Sick. That was the whole idea behind it, to give people bland food so that they wouldn't get aroused.

21:10Is that what causes erections, asking for a friend? Yes. That's the only way. Is that how to turn my guy on? Yeah, spicy food. Put it on your pussy. Really? He's in. Because I remember the Seinfeld thing was the post. That was Pop-Tarts. So this is how actual cereal was invented? Cereal. Breakfast cereal. Kellogg's breakfast cereal. Specifically, he was like some sort of a weird Puritan. Let's look it up because he had some really bizarre ideas. But the primary idea was that if you feed kids bland food, it would stop them from being horny. Kids? Kids. Do kids get horny? I'm sorry. Oh, hell yeah.

21:49Yeah. Like 13, 14, 15. Got it. Teen boys. Well, as soon as the hormones start going. Sure, sure, sure. I remember being like, where is all this coming from? Like you're all of a sudden horny, like where you were never horny. And then all of a sudden you're 12 and it starts coming on like a storm. Yeah. And then you're 13. Like what the fuck is happening? And all your female teachers want to fuck you. Depends it if you live in Florida. They're all just letting you motorboat them between periods. I think you made that wrong, Bobby. Yeah, it is. Once you have a kid, like, it really is. I feel so cliche about the ways you change once you have a kid.

22:26Everyone warns you and you're like, okay, okay. I mean, you really look at every authority figure around kids differently. Every teacher, every coach. You're just like, what are you in this for? You're not in it for the money. You're getting paid nothing. You don't have kids to go to school. Like, what are you up to, dude? Indoctrinating kids. Here it is. Bran flakes. No, Kellogg's Bran flakes were not created to stop kids from getting horny. But the broader Kellogg's cereal story is tied to some very weird anti-sex ideas from the 19th and 20th century. Kellogg's Bran flakes were introduced in 1915 as a high-fiber breakfast cereal marketed as a health food to aid digestion to promote better-for-you breakfasts.

23:03Where this sex myth comes from. John Harvey Kellogg, a physician and Seventh-day Adventist, there it is, did believe that bland, plain diets, especially cereal and nuts, could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation. And he pushed those ideas at his sanitarium. So what the fuck is the no, it's a myth? It's not a myth. This is his idea. He believed it and he sold that stuff. How can they say that's a myth? Can you imagine how hard the publicists at Kellogg's are working to make sure that's not on the internet? That's why it's listed saying that it's a myth. That's the only reason why perplexity is getting confused because there's a bunch of propaganda saying it's not.

23:41All you have to do is look at the first thing. John Harvey Kellogg believed that plain, bland diets could help reduce sexual desire and masturbation. And he sold plain, bland food. And back then, cereal was pretty much just for kids. So you can already assume that it's going to be targeted at kids. These beliefs are most closely associated with early flake cereals like cornflakes and his general biological living health philosophy, not with bran flakes. Whatever. So how true is the rumor? It is fair to say that some of Kellogg's early cereal experiments were influenced by his belief that plain foods could encourage sexual restraint.

24:18So it is a good rumor. So why are they saying that it's not that it's a myth? I typed in bran instead of cornflakes. Oh, bran. It was the bland. Did you think I said bran? I mean, I typed in bran. I meant bland. But bran is a little bit more flavorful. I used to really like bran cereal. I love raisin bran. It's delicious. Raisin bran is the bomb diggity. It's so filling. It's so good. Especially frosted raisin bran with the sugar. And we would pour sugar on it, too. We always thought sugar just gave you cavities. Nobody thought it was killing you. So we'd take scoops of sugar and just throw it on those fucking raisin bran balls.

24:58Dude, Frosted Flakes was my shit. Oh, yeah. I was a big Captain Crunch man myself. Peanut butter? Oh, yeah. Cap 'n. Cap 'n. Yeah. Cap 'n Crunch. Cap 'n Crunch. We used to mix White Trash Till I Die, Apple Jacks with Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Ooh, those are good ones. Now what, RFK? Now what? Yeah, you better let me keep having those. You know, I don't think you should ban those, man. I think like it's important to have restraint and to have the option to do something. How about have a little fucking discipline? That's it. That's it. Yeah. That's it. How about give me the Froot Loops with the dye?

25:32I want to look at pretty colors. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I want my shit to be neon. I'm not going to get cancer if I eat one bowl. Okay? Shut up. That's the other thing. It's like the stress is the worst for us. So the stress about like, should I eat it, should I, is worse than just eating it. I was just talking to a friend who has suffered multiple heart attacks from stress. His doctor says there's nothing wrong with his arteries. Right. And he's gotten these heart attacks because literally his body constricts. He's in like a very serious situation. And his body constricts so heavily that his arteries fucking close up and he has heart attacks.

26:08So what is the difference between, because I'm all about like good stress on your body, like exposing yourself to good stress and then bad stress your body knows the difference right bad stress is going to be like the cortisol and then good stress that's like adrenaline right well i'm hoping you're going to cut me off please cut me off hermetic effect right so the hermetic effect is like there's an argument with certain foods right there's an argument against certain foods like that they have phytochemicals in them so what they have is like an actual toxin that discourages predation right but some of that is actually has a hermetic effect and it's actually good for you like uh what's a good one uh broccoli sprouts you know what does that have phosphorophan what is it what is the word i can't remember the photos beneficial no photosynthesis is how they convert sunlight into food so but like when you're doing good stress like exercise and sulforaphane is that what it is yeah i think you just said it as i was i think that's the word i think it's sulforaphane is that it right there on the screen sulforaphane yeah sulforaphane a plant compound formed when you chew or chop broccoli sprouts which activates an enzyme that converts a precursor called uh glucoraphanin into sulforaphane broccoli sprouts have far higher levels of glucoraphanin than mature broccoli, which is why they are such a concentrated source of sulforaphane.

27:47So you're eating the plant stress. Well, plants do release chemicals. You want to hear a crazy one? This is really nuts. Plants are intelligent in some sort of a weird way. And one of the things they found is that if, like, say if a giraffe is eating certain bushes and they're eating them upwind. And so the wind comes down and the other plants recognize that they're being consumed. And so they change their chemical profile to make them disgusting. It starts tasting bad. Horses, same thing. Horses will all be grazing in one place and then they'll just pivot out of nowhere and you're like, what's going on?

28:22And they'll move to different grass. Yeah. It's like the grass realizes that it's happening. Oh, my God. It's a grass. Apocalypse. And like lets off some kind of acid or something. Isn't that nuts? Wild. So this is the argument against consuming plants that all the carnivore people use is that there's these chemicals. Like find out what the chemicals they talk about. What are the chemicals that carnivore diet people think are dangerous from plants? And the idea is that plants can't defend themselves. They're stationary. And so what they do is they release things that make them disgusting. Got it.

28:56Makes sense. It is like, you know, after having, being pregnant, I kind of just surrendered to being like, what if I just ate what I craved? Like, let me just let my body wisdom or whatever, like kind of go, you know. And it was sourdough bread, not regular bread, just sourdough, which I wonder if that's allowed on the pyramid. It's a lot better for you. Right? Yeah. Sourdough bread, eggs, and meat, no salad. Like, it made me like nauseous to like even think about salad. But maybe that was just my blood type or whatever it was. My wife was really into frozen pizza rolls, those little disgusting things.

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29:32I would buy them for her. I'm like, are you sure? That is a Texas bitch, like through and through. Carnivore diet advocates often argue that many common plant compounds are toxic or anti-nutrients that harm digestion hormones or nutrient absorption. Carnivore influence usually group these under umbrella. anti-nutrients or plant defense chemicals oxalates is one for sure oxalates is terrible for you but the way to get around that is cooking them so like this is like i used to i used to always drink uh kale smoothies i used to take kale and throw it in there with garlic and ginger and drink a smoothie every day then you left la no i i mean i felt fine doing it i never got kidney stones or anything like that but then i started reading about oxalates and then i had a bunch of people on that told me that you can get kidney stones.

30:23And I did actually get my blood work done and it was high in oxalates. But also that's from almonds. I eat a lot. I used to eat a lot of almonds. Lectins, grains, beans, nuts. There it is. Promote leaky gut, autoimmunity, and general gut irritation. Phytates? What is that? Phytic acid, grains, legumes, and nuts. Criticized for binding materials and reducing their absorption. tannins or other polyphenols described by some meat advocates as additional plant defenses that can inhibit nutrient absorption or act as pro-oxidants. But one of the things that I've heard from people that are pretty knowledgeable is that the issue might not be the actual plants itself.

31:07It might be pesticides. That's the other thing. They say the worst thing you can eat at a restaurant anywhere is salads because it's just covered in pesticides. I am washing my fruit and vegetables more than I wash my own See if this is true because I read this that 100 % of all California wines tested positive for glyphosate And out in Malibu Raytheon because there was a Raytheon plant. Oh yeah Oh yeah And cum actually Rocketdyne used to be in my neighborhood Wild. Yeah I wonder if I got juiced up. Remember when I went out and before I had a kid and I was just fighting people over rescuing giraffes I had an instinct to mother, and I was just mothering everything except an actual baby, including giraffes.

31:53And the wine that was made up there at that place, Malibu Safari, had tested positive for Raytheon, and people were getting sick. For Raytheon? Uh-huh. How do you test positive for Raytheon? Like the Raytheon. They tested 10. Okay, they tested 10, and a 2016 investigation by ABC7 News, Beyond Pesticides, reported that 10 out of 10 California wines tested positive for glyphosate. Whoa. That's nuts. I'm obsessed with these sort of health and wellness sort of myths. And where do they like wines, good red wines, good for you. Like what alcoholic like made that popular? Remember, it's like it's got resveratrol.

32:30It's like the amount you would need to get the amount of resveratrol that would make a difference is you would kill your liver anyway. But like dark chocolate's good for you. Like these things we just like. I think dark chocolate is good for you, though. Is it? Yeah, I think that's legit. I don't think wine is necessarily bad for you. I think alcohol is bad for you but I think it also loosens you up and makes you happy which is better for you than being sad Depending on where you are right? So if you were the group of people like you and I and a bunch of friends went out to dinner We all had wine.

32:58We're laughing our asses off. That would probably be really good for you And it removes a little bit of the ability to and that was always my thing like I don't I've three Three and a half years off pretty much anything. I mean I was pregnant I have a kid like I'm you know, I gotta be focused like a toddler is just like suicidal like I'm you know But, you know, I think with at least I'll just be for myself, my brain, a glass of wine. I'm just able to be present without going. Is this a good joke? Which I write about. It just takes off that like sort of like interior anthropologist narrative that is like I always have to be categorizing things and filing things as jokes or cross referencing things and, you know, filing things away for future stand up.

33:36And that's the thing, right? It's because you always need new jokes. And you're always farming. And when you hear something that's like, oh, that'd be such a good premise is like, ah, you know, sometimes I'll just like do what you do. I'll put it in notes to just file it away just so that I'm not thinking about it so much. That's the only thing that keeps me sane. Because if I don't do that, if I don't, it's going to get away from me. Same. Same. At least my family knows. Like sometimes I'll jump up from the dinner table and I have to run away because I know it's slippery. I'm like, this idea is slippery.

34:04I'll be right back. I got an idea. Let me just write it down. Let me just write it down. I have to write it down and I come back and I don't tell them the idea because it's usually they're like, what? Yeah, yeah. Trust me. It's going to sound bad. No. OK. Jews do run the meat. Just let me let me flesh it out. This idea about Jews and blacks. But yeah, as long as I'm able to write it down, then I can be. Yeah. Then, you know, you saved it. Neil Brennan used to say that his joke book was basically like a net for catching ideas. Love it. I have one. Great idea. Great premise. I promise I have a joke.

34:36I'll write it down in my notebook, but I'll, of course, leave it somewhere and it just looks like my suicide note. It's just like words. It's just like Kegels, you know, episiotomy. Like, it's just crazy words. but and that's the other thing that I think having a kid gave me that I didn't even know was possible which is what I thought like weed or you know a glass of wine or whatever before was I've always just been trying to figure out how to get present like be in the present moment you know which by the way is there a biological basis for being in the present moment probably it's probably you know was uh you know a detriment back in the day you wanted to be like two steps ahead or this is what just happened and like eating that berry was bad like being the present moment probably got you killed back then but that's what they think adhd is about it's about being a persistent hunter we have a problem with the software that we're running and perhaps maybe the computer so the last few episodes jamie please cut my audio reddit will love this episode they don't love anything just cut me out of it there's a bunch of people i'd like to see naked

35:39negative reddit commenters like you guys need to go outside touch grass babes i look at those guys and i'm always just guys girls whoever like i mean i go on reddit but like they're non-binary all of them i always think like if we didn't get to do what we do would we be doing that 100 i would i would say that like when people are like really mean to celebrities online and comments i'm like I would do that 1 ,000 1 million percent if I was 16 years old and I had a fucking Twitter account and they have a plane Yeah, yeah, fuck you like yeah, yeah Going after everybody I would 100 % that was all especially if I get them to respond right I'd be like I got him on the hook And then like Kimmel would like read negative comments on his show like you can get on a show is Which is, by the way, what's happening with like crowd work.

36:28People come to shows now trying to get in a crowd work video. Just heckling and yelling. Yeah. Especially if someone is known for responding to hecklers. Oh, no. The first four rows are people that are like in hair and makeup. They have like hats on. Like their tits are out. Like they're ready with. They're like, hey, bitch. And I'm like, I'm not filming this show, guys. Sorry. People just want to be a part of something. Do you want to know where I'm from? It's like, I don't. I don't care. I'm in Austin. I know you live. I don't give a shit. Well, that's the weird thing about social media and the internet in general is that everyone has a voice now, which is great.

37:00And it's also terrible. Yeah. It's both things. It's great because some people emerge from that voice. Just like we were talking about memes. Some of the hardest laughs that I get during the day are these memes that anonymous people have created and someone sends me. Same. And I'm like, ah! Same. And then I send them to people. I don't know who the fuck made it. Can we pause one second again? And it's now not recording the audio, even though we can hear everything. It just stopped all of a sudden. Did it record any of what we just said? Because that was fucking gold. Hold on. It is still going.

37:30It is still going. That was gold. I'm going to trust it. It's just not visually showing up. We'll trust it. Oh, boy. Sorry. Having a conversation about being in the present moment and being like, wait, you didn't record that? Yeah. I was being so present. Damn it. I have to. I think, you know, we're in this weird transitionary period where we have a new technology. and that allows everyone to have a voice. And I think overall it's very good because you have more voices and it's just people have to discern what's a valuable voice and what's not. And that's where I tell people don't read the fucking comments.

38:04It's not good for you because you're getting too many non-valuable voices. And if you've done a good job of curating your environment and curating your friend group, you've eliminated all these people that are really shitty and bitter and jealous and nasty. and also have no ability to look at themselves. Yeah. But also, like, to all my – like, I just did Norman's podcast with Sam Morrell, and they were talking about the comments. And I was like, guys, like, I've said worse things to you than any of these comments. Right. Like, we're comics. We all sit around and are so much meaner to each other than any of these.

38:41Meaner about other comics that aren't there? I know. Oh, God. We've done the worst shit ever. Totally. It's just sort of like nothing in this comment section is worse than what Tony Hinchcliffe just said to me on the phone. And you laughed. I just talked to Tim Dillon for an hour. I have no self-esteem left. This is like a warm hug. My comment section is where I go for compliments at this point. Sometimes I forget that when I'm hanging out with normies. You know, and I'll just drop a bomb. Same, same. And you should look at their face like, what the fuck did you say? I'm like, I thought we were talking shit.

39:16I did that yesterday I was checking into the hotel and we're in Texas my mom's from Texas whatever and this uh this dude that works there was wearing like like cowboy boots like solid cowboy boots and I was like oh sick cowboy boots I mean like they're just high heels for men but like cool that you guys call them like cowboy boots and he was just like and I was like oh you you're gonna fight me like this is not I can say that's like Tony Hinchcliffe because I'm always like you moved to Texas so that you could wear heels. So you basically wear cowboy boots all the time. He was going through a period of time where he's wearing nothing but cowboy hats and cowboy boots on stage.

39:53Dude, and then like a Gucci track suit. Like, name a person that knew less about what to do with their money. Here's the thing he's doing now. He's wearing vests. He wears vests all the time. It's a thousand degrees outside. Bulletproof vests. after the he was at the Trump rally smart Puerto Ricans have guns homie the Puerto Ricans love them yeah they do if there's any group of people that are great at talking shit it's Puerto Ricans it's like Jennifer Lopez cut to her like crying because she's like what are jokes um but yeah I I love she doesn't count so I have you made your will oh yeah okay so I'm making my will soon which as soon as you have a kid they'll like make a will or else your craziest family member is going to like get your son you know and i have him and um and i am i allowed to make a fun i want to make like a funny will like i want to give brian holtzman like a million dollars just to see what he'll do just to look down from heaven and just see him with like you can't buy suspenders just caff in plants like just like like seeing what tony did with his money like watching all these comics like bobby lee he just like shows up in like women's shoes like He'll just be in those Golden Goose sneakers.

41:06They're like$700. They're bedazzled. He wears bedazzled sneakers? Well, they're like Golden Goose. Do you know these shoes? Yeah, I have a pair of Golden Goose. Yeah, but they're like shimmery with like leper. It's weird because Golden Goose, they come out worn out. I bought them in Aspen. You buy them worn out and everybody was really into it. I'm like, they're already pre-worn. This is weird. It's like when you bought jeans with holes in them. Right. Like ahead of time. I never did that, by the way. Yeah. No, that's not that's a lie. I did it for a while and I was like, what was wrong? Yeah But I like holes in the Knees because you can move around more like that's actually useful always cut holes.

41:43Oh, you need to buy like stretchy jeans You know what? I did start buying stretchy jeans And this is actually the worst thing I've done since becoming a mom you just become such a dork except your wife Your wife is like she's like my hero. I'm like, how do you stay? Why are you so hot? Like you're my mom You're like allowed to just look like Rachel Maddow, but you do this Like, I need to get back on the horse because I started buying sweatpants that look like jeans. And I'm just like, what am I doing? Like, it's just. Well, there's a bunch of jeans like that that you can get now. What are those?

42:11Oh, they're called perfect jeans. Those are really good. I got a few pairs of those. I think that's what they're called, right? Perfect jeans. Like stretchy guys? Yeah, those are great. Revtown. Revtown makes a great pair. They're great. Barbell. Barbell jeans. Oh, nice. They're nice. yeah they're made for people with big thighs yeah my jeans wear out in the middle because my thighs are always rubbing together right oh like in the that's where they tear open and wear out and I need to be I can't wear something that I can't kick somebody in but also fuck yes so good to be in Texas where the real men are that's how they think I was thinking like that always it's so funny my fiance Like he's just you don't realize till you date it's like very straight guy that you've only dated gay guys Like I always was like oh good metrosexual like my dude My favorite thing to do is ask him what he's thinking about not like what are you thinking about like hoping?

43:13It's me or like our wedding or something. I'm just like fascinated. I'm on the edge of my seat and uh It's usually like if I could fight that guy like the Roman Empire My god, dude I Like just like jerking off thinking about tigers tearing apart criminals. Like what about the Roman Empire exactly? That's so crazy when you think about it. I mean didn't species go extinct? Because of the Roman Empire? Because of the Colosseum fights. I don't believe that's true. I've never heard that. When I did like a tour of it they said that but I'm sure they were just trying to. Yeah. They're trying to juice you up.

43:47Well let's find out. Even if they did how could they prove it? I guess it's. Well they don't really. There's a lot of speculation that's probably erroneous about why certain animals went extinct, including woolly mammoths. Also, there's a lot of animals out there that maybe you guys can't find. Oh, yeah. We don't know. Okay. Not to bring up California, but have you seen this doomsday fish? What's that? It's a fish that only appears when an earthquake's about to happen. Oh, great. And they're coming up around Monterey in California. It's like a syringe with fins. Really? You know these like fish at the bottom, bottom of the ocean that we - Oh, and they're getting away from the bottom because they feel like it's coming?

44:27They're like coming up to the surface. I've never heard of this before. But my brain also goes like, maybe they've been around and you just haven't seen them, but - That's true. It's not like we have cameras down there 24-7. At all times, yeah. Coliseum animal fights did not clearly drive any species to global extinction, but they did help wipe out or severely reduce some regional populations and subspecies. Like what? Yeah. Beast hunts killed animals on a huge scale. Ancient sources described thousands of animals killed in single festivals and tens of thousands over imperial reigns. Modern historians argue that this sustained demand contributed to local or regional disappearances, especially when combined with hunting, habitat loss, and warfare.

45:09Well, just what they did in America with market hunting, they almost wiped out everything in America because no one had ice, right? So you had to get meat every day. So they wiped out almost all deer. They wiped out elk from elk used to be in all 50 states. And now they're only in a few. They wiped out almost all of them. And this is fascinating to me, just the Roman Coliseum thing, because I think that my brain always does whenever it's like, can you believe people in the comments are trashing Sabrina Carp or whatever? It's like, yeah, people used to go watch, you know, people have their limbs torn apart by lions and sit there and like cheer and suggest they would yell out how to kill people like that.

45:53You know, they would go watch at the town square. People get hanged like this is right on time. They'd watch people have sword fights. This is the most humane version of publicly shaming people we've done thus far. It's just like you suck. Right. It just hurts your feelings. Yeah. Right. And it only hurts your feelings if you read it. But I also don't think anyone has only made a comment on Joe Rogan's or only on mine. I don't think it's like just personal. Well, it's probably one schizophrenic person that just concentrates on you. Yeah. Oh, no. I have many of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's most people are just.

46:23But I don't think they're normal with everyone else. And then, you know. Well, that's the argument that some people have that I completely disagree with that you should. It should be your name. Everyone should know who's posting that and that you shouldn't be allowed to post anonymously. My problem with that is that eliminates all whistleblowing. Oh, good point. You know, you're working at some defense contractor and you know they're doing something horrible or whatever. You're working for some oil company and you know they're doing something evil. No, you can't have completely anonymous. I mean, you can't have only, like, recognized accounts where you know the exact person who's posting things.

47:02Because sometimes you need to have anonymous sources. But also, it's, you know, essentially, like, I'm always interested in, you know, finding the, like, a quantumist real-life version of something digital. So it's, like, negative things in the comment section. That's like being in a football game and someone being like, Tom Brady, you suck. Right. He obviously doesn't suck. Right. It's the same thing. You're wearing a Patriots jersey. Like, you obviously love him. You're just, like, being an idiot. You know? It's kind of like. How about UFC fans? Some of them are the worst. They're like, he's a pussy.

47:33Is he? He fights for a lot. Yes, yes, yes. He fights in his underwear barefoot in a fucking cage for a living and you're calling him a pussy. That's right. People, I mean, and also think about what it would take for you to stop and leave a shitty comment. You would have to be in such a dark, dark place to like need to just like throw a stray at someone. And like I like to think of it as like a weird service. And maybe this is just me trying to like sublimate it into something positive because being a female community on the Internet is like pretty wild. And it's like I signed up to make people happy or make people laugh or give people some kind of escape from their life.

48:08And if you hating me or saying some mean shit gives you like a hit, like, great. I don't think I came into comedy being like, everyone has to love me. It's not possible. Yeah. People hate Chappelle. It's literally not possible. The people I know that take the biggest risks and that, you know, are polarizing. Like, I think the most interesting comics are polarizing. So if everyone liked me, I'd probably be pretty boring. Well, there's a few people that don't take risks that are hilarious that aren't polarizing at all like Nate Bargatso. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Gaffigan. Sebastian. Sebastian.

48:39But Gaffigan got really polarizing when he went political. A lot of people got mad at him for that. That's right. But I think he was drunk. Oh, interesting. He did a – I'm pretty sure he was drunk. He likes to throw them back. Was he doing a line though? Wasn't he doing a line? Or was he doing it live? Oh, he was on Twitter. Oh, he was on Twitter. the trump that's right i remember he went crazy and he lost like a giant chunk of fans people turned on him you know he's the hot pockets guy that's right he's like involved in politics it's interesting when that that kind of i think that as a comic like it's you know and you do something sort of different here but i never you know to take a side just feels so weird it just feels so bizarre uh because i think it's really our job to be able to defend the indefensible just even as an exercise and to, you know, to be able to deeply believe that two things can be true at once.

49:33I think it's the opposite of what Wokies do with animals. So with Wokies, with animals, they're like, adopt, don't shop. I think with your ideas, you should shop around. Don't adopt. Don't adopt like all the ideas that the left has or all the ideas that the right has. Shop around. Also, breeders are bad, so rescue a dog from a breeder if you need to. Right. Well, some – look, breeders are bad, right? Okay. I have the best fucking dog in the world, and he came from a breeder. Some are good. Some are bad. Some rescues are good. Some of the worst people on earth are animal rescue people. Some of the worst people on earth work in charities, you know?

50:13That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. Did you see the data about the L.A. fire money and where it went? Holy shit. Did you see the data of the whole – what was it? How many billion was supposed to be spent on homelessness removal? 24. 24 billion unaccounted for i'm not even mad just tell me where it is how do you even hide that much money they don't even know but i want to show you this did i ever send it to you jamie i know i saved it because it's so crazy it was like there was a concert it was like yeah it was a hundred million dollars but where it went is it literally absolutely nuts i'm gonna find it oh and jamie did you find that doomsday fish i just want to make sure I saw an article about it from 20, a couple years ago that said it shows up when - Doomsday fish?

51:01Yeah. There was one up in Monterey, they said, that came. I'm obsessed with the fish that we don't know about. Okay. I just sent it to you, Jamie. So the House Judiciary Committee released a report on the LA Fire Aid concert. Among the findings, fire aid was used - I mean, this is going to - I'm sorry. It's okay. I don't know why I'm coughing. Fire aid was used for activities such as voter participation initiatives, podcasts. They give$100 ,000 to podcasters. Approximately$550 ,000 in donations went to organizations involved in political advocacy. Well, that's money laundering. That's just money laundering.

51:39$550 ,000 out of$100 million. $250 ,000 was directed towards programs benefiting undocumented immigrants. Look at this. $100 ,000 to podcasters. I want to know who the fuck the podcasters were that got$100 ,000. Yeah, what are you talking about? What does that mean? Did they prevent fires with that money? $500 ,000 was used to cover salaries, bonuses. Imagine you got a bonus because there was a fire. Consultant fees for nonprofit organizations. But if it's a nonprofit, why are you giving it money? And why are you giving them bonuses? Half a million dollars. Okay, many worthy nonprofits did receive grants that were used to support victims.

52:19This report provides lessons for the distribution of or the disbursement rather of any remaining fire aid funds. Go down lower because it keeps going. It's a good racket. Everyone I know that works with a charity has like two houses. Like good for them because they don't pay taxes either. There's more where they laid all this stuff out. So this is Kevin Kiley who is – what is his – congressman from California. So he's outlining this because he tried to look it up. It's fucking crazy. But, I mean, some of that is fucking criminal. This one drives me nuts. Organizations involved in political advocacy.

52:58Half a fucking million dollars. Why is anyone advocating for politics? Like, what does that even mean? It's just stealing money. That's right. That's just money laundering. That's all that is. That's just stealing money. Wait, fungus planting projects. What? To plant fungus. Fungus planting policy. What? Fungus planting projects. just a growing growing weed yeah the best way to keep people from doing this man this is what it is dude it's like literally like uh everyone that's pissed that their house got on fire take these mushrooms and you will realize materialism doesn't it's all bullshit yeah it's just part of the universe man we're all connected like if someone else has a house you have a house too like this is the universe telling you to get the fuck out of here i mean it is like a lot to process.

53:44I mean, there's a point where you're kind of like, my brain goes like, when there's nothing you can do about it, you're like, what do I do? Like, do I just get mad? Do I just look away? Do I become the person that's retweeting shit and just being that person? Like, you know, the things we have to kind of just decide with our economy of bandwidth, what to be outraged about. And maybe this is it. The idea is like, we'll throw so much at you that you'll just get exhausted. and this episode is brought to you by athletic brewing company so here we are it's the new year which means it's about time to hit reset just because it's january doesn't mean you need to disappear into a cold plunge and never drink again just rotate in some athletic non-alcoholic beer you get the taste the perfect meal pairing and the night out but you wake up without the hangover With over 185 taste awards, they brew all kinds of styles, IPAs, Goldens, Hazies, you name it.

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55:26But they're not because this guy, the congressman is looking it up. It's going to, they're definitely going to talk about it. It's going to be a problem for these people. It's going to be a problem during reelection and it's supposed to be. They're monsters. These people are evil. They're really evil. Like what they're doing is stealing money from people that decided they were going to donate money because they thought it was a worthy cause and it wasn't a worthy cause. And also when those fires happened, the idea that it was like donate, it's like, well, you were just in a fire zone too. We pay enough taxes in California to not have to have charities to donate to fire victims.

56:01Right. Do you know what I mean? Charities are such a scam because it's like, well, no, this is where our taxes should be going to stuff. We shouldn't have to have these charities where people are donating money to help people. They don't have money either. Well, it's a scam when you find out where the money actually goes. That's when it becomes a scam, when you find out that the vast amount – like if you have$100 million that gets donated to legitimate charity, it's very likely that only 30 percent or less is going to the actual cause. And that person doesn't pay taxes on top of that because the charity is a tax write-off.

56:31So my taxes aren't going to pay for that cause, and then you're not paying taxes anyway, and then I have to give you extra money. It's just like – it's just such a – charity culture is just such a bizarre – does every country have this charity culture? I don't know. Well, our charity culture is really weird because of USAID. Because USAID, everybody thought of as like, oh, it's aid. We're giving aid to all these other countries. That's important. People are going to starve. Right. And then you realize like, oh, no, it's not USAID. It's the U.S. Agency for International Development. So a lot of it is about overthrowing foreign governments.

57:07A lot of it is about funding these NGOs that are supposedly nonprofit, but people extract the money out of them Like what's your definition of money laundering? Yeah, a lot of it is money laundering It's so much Mike Benz is the guy to follow on that and Mike Benz is like He's gone deep deep into all this shit and uncovered an insane way He said the USAID is for things that are too dirty for the CIA when it's too dirty for the cia they send it off to a non-government organization that's an ngo so an ngo can do things that the government can't do legally so they'll go and use this money in a way that our government can't do it but it's our government's money so it's your tax dollars go to do things that the government's not allowed to do and the government just does it that way through an NGO and people profit massively.

57:59And money is just flowing around and no one knows where it goes. Like the$24 billion that went to the homeless problem in California where it only got worse. I don't even get how you hide that much money. I don't even get how you laundered and hide. I mean, that's like. It just shows you how crazy scams are in this country. We're learning that out about the Somali. Oh, yeah. The Minnesota thing. But that's just one part of it. The Somali daycares in Minnesota is the tip of the iceberg. California is way bigger. So people are digging into the problems in California now. And they're saying, no, no, no.

58:27Whatever you thought the fraud was. There was a guy that was running a bunch of daycares. He had no one. Already a red flag. In California. No one at his organization. No kids. Pulled up in a fucking Rolls Royce when they were investigating. Of course. A Rolls Royce. Of course, of course. Couldn't even just get a Lexus. No. They can't just be cool. It's like Dane Cook's brother or whatever who stole from him. Pulled up in a Bugatti. It's like you couldn't. Did he really? It was like something crazy. Like you couldn't just got an Acura that's when he found out that his brother was stealing. I think it was like a car That pulled up.

58:59I know what I Car like sock day By the way, he got out of jail and the money still missing stop. Yeah There's a ton of money that they never recovered He might have hit it in a coffee. There's some real rich hookers in Pensacola I'll tell you what he might have blown through all of it, but I'm pretty sure I mean you'd have to ask Dane yeah i'm pretty sure that a lot of the money was unrecovered he donated it to the la fire victims uh yeah it's like people that steal like that like it's like um for what i understand it's like kind of a gambling addiction too it's like i got away with this like you get this invincibility complex of like and now i can get away with this and then you just get in over your head and you show up one day in a fucking you know ferrari and i was like huh did you ever see that um documentary the seven five no the seven five is all about the 75th precinct in new york and how corrupt it was it's a really good documentary i had the guy who was the main guy michael dowd who was a who was a corrupt cop love it i had him on the podcast and explained it he said the first day of i mean if you watch the documentary first day working they threw a guy out of building and killed him and he was like shut the fuck up like you know you know what you saw now you didn't see shit right you're like yeah i didn't see shit like they killed a guy on his first day on the job And he's like, okay, this is, I guess, what we do.

1:00:19And so he was selling drugs, robbing drug dealers, and showed up at work with a Corvette. He had a brand new badass Corvette. Keep the Corvette under a blanket and just drive a Honda to work. Like you could have gotten away with this forever. Get an old pickup truck, stupid. I love that shit, dude. I fucking love it so much. This guy shows up at his fucking daycare in a Rolls Royce. It was like the Wild Wild Country guy. He could have gotten away with that forever, but it was like the 56 bedazzled Rolls Royce. I was like, I don't know, man. Yeah, he had a bunch of Rolls Royces. But God told me I should have these.

1:01:00Like, huh? I don't know. But the people are retarded. That is one of the greatest things ever. By the people, for the people, in the pause. Dude. But the people are retarded. Tough titties. So it's for the retarded. So look at this. 42.1 million. This is the guy. He's trying to cover the car with his body? Pull back and let's hear what he says in the beginning of this. I mean, with all that money, maybe buy some Ozempic too, homie. He's eating good. Let me hear what he says.

1:01:52Yeah, because no one in LA has kids. Look at this Rolls Royce Where's the money jump sheet? The way the door opens is so fun Where'd you get this car from? How did you get this property? That's assault Don't touch me This looks fake It really does It looks fake as shit It looks fake as shit This looks like completely staged Just the way he walks up and grabs the car When you saw people with cameras And you've got a convertible Rolls Royce parked You would turn around I think You would just turn around It's just too convenient There's no one there. Why is he there with the car? That looks fake.

1:02:27Yeah, I think it's fake. He's not wearing any brands. That's usually a thing too. It's also, there's something in my mind registered his face when he started talking. Wait a minute, is that the guy? Wait, this is the guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. So it's fake. Yeah, yeah. So I just spread. So that was like a staged reenactment or something? Yeah, it's horseshit. Yeah. This is like when I repost videos where people have like seven fingers and I'm like, oh. It's just bad acting. I saw his face. I saw his face. I'm like, this guy's a bad actor. This is like a Hallmark special. Well, when he took off the golf hat, like douchebag or Vance, like before to start his thing.

1:03:03That's just engagement. Yeah. Why are you wearing a suit? Why are you wearing a suit? Meanwhile, people are sending that to me like it's real. There it is. That thing? Yeah. But they want it to be real. Yeah. And by the way, you get to a point with real and fake where you're just like, it might as well be. You know, it might as well be. But that guy, you could tell his face was fake. He's like, what? Yeah, it was. How'd you get me? Yeah. Get out of it. This is private property. The push was a little bitch for someone who was about to lose everything. The camera work was pretty good, too. He's just being silly.

1:03:33Yeah. But there's a lot of that, too. That's a problem. It's just like we live in a strange world, and no one investigated where all this money was going in the past. No one investigated. You couldn't. How could you? One of the things that Elon said to me, he said Medicaid fraud is the biggest amount of money that's fraudulent in this country. And he didn't want to even talk about it because he was worried that people would kill him. That's what he said on the podcast. He goes, I could go into this, but they'll kill me. That's like someone saying they have something they didn't have to get the catastrophe insurance thing.

1:04:07There's a lot of that. Yeah, like my dad had a stroke. You get like, it was stolen by a family member. The fraud is within my family. Really? But yeah, that you get like 20 grand. Medicaid Part B, I want to say, if you have like a stroke, it's called a catastrophic event. They'll just like give you like 20 grand or something. Is it like that you like fake that or something and then get that money type of thing? Oy. Is that like what Medicaid? Is it to fake a stroke? No, what it is is, well, here's the daycare thing. Like that's part of it. And then there's a bunch of people that don't exist that are getting Medicaid money.

1:04:40Right. Right. Yeah. And then there's autism diagnoses. Right. So they self-diagnose as autism. They open up an autism center. They have a bunch of kids in the autism center. They get money for those kids. There's no autism. There's no kids. It's all fake. Right, right, right, right, right. There's also, like, there's these fake scams where there was one that they uncovered in Minnesota where they were supposedly feeding an exorbitant amount of children, and there was no kids. No one was going there, but they were saying they were feeding, like, 5 ,000 people a day. Sure. They didn't even have the capacity to feed 5 ,000 people a day.

1:05:13There was no food coming in there. but the thing is the politicians the politicians were getting so much money from these people just from the Somali community that owned daycare centers the Minnesota politicians were getting 35 million dollars last year is that is Tim to blame for that I don't well he just stepped down from his re-election that's not good that's not good when you were almost the vice president of the United States you know how many people came at me people that I'm like thought I was friends with like acquaintances more maybe but um i now realize they were acquaintances when i made fun of tim walsh for going to china so many times like which let me not get this wrong it's definitely more than 10 more than 10 or something that tim walsh just like went to china to go like which is you know if you're gonna have gone to china that many times and then run to be the vice president why wouldn't you why would you hide it number one why wouldn't you lead with it as like this is one of our enemies i've been i know the language like why wouldn't you either lean into it make it I'm an expert on it and this is one of our big issues.

1:06:16Like the fact that we all pretended that he wasn't going to China. First of all, on what salary are you going to China every year? Was he a politician when he was doing this? What's your miles program? Well, I could see if you were a businessman. He was a teacher. He was a teacher. He was going with kids. He was taking kids to China. But I mean, doesn't that make sense though, that you're taking kids on an international trip so they can learn about the world? Only China. Maybe that's his area of expertise. I'm trying to like. But why not lead with it? I'm trying to steel man it. I know me too.

1:06:46I do the same where I'm like, why doesn't he open with? I've been to China 35 times. I took kids there so they could learn Mandarin because they're going to have to interface with China later during business. Like it was just like this thing where it's when someone else tries to hide something, something that I wouldn't have thought was untoward. I'm like, well, hold on. Now it's weird. Right. And why can't I ask a question about it? Whenever I would say, how many times did you go to China? Everyone's like, what? What? And I'm like. Well, here's the crazy one. when all the Somali daycare center came out, he started blaming white men for all the crime.

1:07:13Sure. What about white men? Well, he's white men with all the crime. He's trying this, that playbook. He's like, what about me? The woke playbook. What about me? I'm the criminal. I'm a white guy. That's really what he's saying. He's telling on himself right then and there. What do you mean? He was basically trying to say that it's racist, but it's not, facts aren't racist. It's just clever. If they did it themselves. You know, if they did it themselves, if they were the ones that were perpetrating the fraud. Sure. The real problem is if they didn't do it themselves, who helped them fill out all those forms?

1:07:45Who helped them organize this? And is this a money laundering thing? Sure. And are they filtering this money into other people's accounts? Are they filtering into offshore accounts? Because supposedly, here's another one, supposedly they were sending money like on a regular basis back to Somalia and they were catching them at TSA in Minnesota. Sure. See if that's true, Jamie. It's a lot. It's a lot, you guys. I mean, it's, you know, I guess also the other question is when all this is going on, I'm like, do I focus on this or, like, are we going to war? Like, you know. Well, you can only focus on so much.

1:08:24I know. Because that's the thing about the Internet. If you want to get outraged, it's there to feed you. Yeah, totally. All day long. And then once you click on something, they're just going to keep feeding you more and more of that. and I'm sort of like is this as big of a story as my algorithm is telling me it is because I remember um you know and this is I think why it's like more important than ever to be on stage as much as possible to just corroborate like a premise to make sure that everyone even is aware of it given our little echo chambers and stuff but remember when when Kamala Harris was like giving speeches that it kind of seemed like she was shit-faced like I just it sort of seemed like she was like slurring words or something those were Or, you know, that would come in.

1:09:04I was like doing this joke about it before the election. It was like, you know, like maybe this is what we need. Like what's scarier than a, you know, alcoholic woman with no kids, you know, like she can just be calling up like Putin in the middle of the night. Like, hey, like she's just, you know, and I was doing it was doing well. Everyone got it. And then I was somewhere in like New York City. I think it was doing and no one had seen that video. People like, what are you talking? No one had seen had any awareness of that. And I was, it was kind of bone chilling. Cause I'm like, eat. Well, she's probably exhausted, right?

1:09:38Of course. Here's the other thing. You're, you're running around, you're doing so much. You're campaigning, you're constantly doing, if you catch me and I'm really tired, I sound like I'm on pills. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm fucking, you know. And then you're probably a little casual about everything because you're doing something, you're repeating the same things over and over again. Yeah. You're going to these places, you're fucking completely exhausted. Or you're coming off of whatever they put you on to get you up. Yeah, adrenaline and, you know. It's also, I think that they're used to, there's this old way of doing things where you could say the same thing on every platform and no one would cut it all together.

1:10:16Yeah. You know? Yes, that's it. Okay, here it is. I found it. I'm going to send this to you, Jamie. Because this is apparently a legitimate source. I'm looking up the main source they said they got it from. It said Homeland Security officials told a source called Just the News. So I've never – I'm just looking up. Well, this is the TSA. Yeah, that's what it says. Yeah, federal probe, hundreds of millions of dollars inspected, small cash, and living Minneapolis Airport. It says that this is the source of the story. So I was just trying to find out what's a legit source. What they were told. For sure that money didn't just stay in the community, especially if they didn't have the ability to organize this and develop this scam someone else helped them and those people were getting money from it so how were they getting the money were they getting the money in cash was it being sent and wired to offshore accounts like how are they doing it it's clear that there's there's so much money missing it's in the billions now it's bigger than the entire gdp of somalia just from minnesota allegedly wild the entire gdp of a country one state's fraud is supposedly over the course of you know x amount of days that they they did and is it true that the guy that uncovered it was kind of like some guy like it was like nick shirley yeah this like young kid yeah good for him but i mean there's the other question like did someone direct him towards this is this like you know what i'm saying like is this like did the republicans set this up to try to expose it yeah is it him just being An independent journalist.

1:11:52He seems like a very smart kid. I've seen him. He was on Patrick Bette David's show. Yeah. He's a virgin. Why do we know that? Because he's religious. Talks about it. He talked about it. He said he was a virgin. He said they can't get him on anything. He can't get me on sexual assault. I'm a virgin. He can't get me on anything. We can get you on being a virgin. You weirdo. Transportation Security Administration flagged nearly$700 million in cash detected in passengers' luggage leaving the Minneapolis Airport in the last two years that's crazy probably it yeah that's crazy a massive massive cash exodus believed to be tied the Somali immigrants and their money couriers homeland security officials told just the news hmm so who's the homeland security official though you know I mean reading through it that's first statement doesn't say like all all flat it's sorry let me start this over some of these were a million dollars and it says that they were legally declared every time they did it right but you could legally declare it if it was cleared by whoever the fuck is involved in this fraud right so if you're donating 35 million dollars last year just last year in 2025 to democratic politicians from these somali daycares which i believe is true that's i was trying to look that up and couldn't find out bundles of cash and luggage some as much as a million dollars in a single trip raised suspicions yeah this is the part i don't that does i would start taking each statement as it doesn't say that those were each like that particular one was a Somali person.

1:13:21That could have been someone going to Vegas. Could have been someone going to buy a house. I don't know. I'm saying all$335 million. Nobody buys a house with a million dollars in cash. I'm not saying they did. I'm just saying but it could have been anybody. It could have been buying a Bugatti. It could have been a poker player going to a World Series of Poker. Dane Cook's brother. I'm just sort of saying to be Tony Hinchcliffe going to the cowboy boot store. It's conflating a bunch of stuff together. It could have been every single JustTheNews.com. Is that Is that a legitimate organization? I pulled it up.

1:13:48Is that a far right organization? Let's look at their side articles and we'll get a view of what their perspective is. Is that what you do? Look at the trending ones. Make that a little larger. Let's see what the Trump orders government to buy$200 billion in mortgage bonds to lower rates. That's pro right wing. CDC misled the public with study implying COVID vaccines save healthy kids. UCLA expert warns also right wing. USC's is another sanctioned oil tanker in the Caribbean. Sanctioned oil tanker. Not just oil tanker. They were sanctioned right wing. Maduro's ouster leaves China holding the bag on oil investments right wing.

1:14:26Right. Also, what's a UCLA expert? What's the top one? Comrade. No, no, no. Larger. Comrade. Singham to face House subpoena as a CCP-tied network reveals or leads, rather, renewed anti-ice protests. So it seems like this is a very right wing. It's just the news. Seems like at least see just the news. No noise. Yeah. House in-house fails to override Trump. We just said Minnesota travelers alone. I was like, well, that could be anybody from Minnesota. Then Minneapolis travelers alone had three hundred forty two point three seven million in their luggage in 2024. That's a lot of money. OK, let's find this out.

1:15:06So Minnesota travelers alone had$342.37 million in their luggage in 2024. So let's put into perplexity, how much money did California travelers have in their luggage in 2024? How many Bitcoin did California travelers have in their assholes? California travelers have in their luggage in 2024. But who puts that? At the TSA. Does anyone ever measure your money when you go through or count it? No. You're supposed to declare, I think, if you have more than$10 ,000. But we lie. Everyone lies. I know, I know, I know. That's true. That's what they said. These were all, you know, flagged correctly. But if I went through with$1 ,000, they never would know.

1:15:47So the amount cannot be determined from available data. TSA and regulated agencies track only limited categories, such as unclaimed money at checkpoints or certain cash seizures. And these figures are nationwide rather than specific to California travelers or all money carried in their luggage. Okay. So how do they know that about Minnesota? That's right. It's coming from one source. That's why I was like, why did they only tell one source? Why wouldn't they have told all this? Why wouldn't they call Fox? Why wouldn't they call CNN? Why wouldn't they call everybody? Also, it's this one very right-leaning website, right?

1:16:19It appears right-leaning. How do they ascertain cash someone's carrying? The Tennessee Star has it as well. They were just reporting the same article. From just the news. Right. So that's another way that you can distribute propaganda. You have one source and then you send that source out and a bunch of other people repeat it Is it as reported? Yeah, this one website and that one website might be bullshit I also like to look at the ads that are on the surrounding The article exactly if it's like gun safe. I'm like this is right wing if it's like tampons for men I'm like, I think this is the left wing one.

1:16:52Okay. Got it. That always kind of helps. That's wild I have a family member who works in like kind of banking and I'm like what's up with this oil? What's up with China buying up all the silver? What are we doing? Did you see the doomsday plane? What's the doomsday plane? The doomsday plane that, I mean, could just be a sigh out, but it's the doomsday plane. I think it went to California, the one that is in case of a nuclear event. It can hold, stay in the sky for a couple days and self-refuel. It's made my nipples hard just looking at it. It's gorgeous. Doomsday plane? Jamie, can you pull up this doomsday plane?

1:17:29so people listening don't think I'm Roseanne.

1:17:36Trump's doomsday E-4B plane sighted in Washington and Los Angeles days after Maduro captured. But get that pretty picture up of it. That's a terrible picture. How is that the only picture? Well, that's them sighting it. But go back to the art. Look at this thing. That's the doomsday plane? I don't know if it's that. They're all different. With the blue stripe? Wait a minute, they're all different This is when they're selling it from Northrop Grumman So anybody can buy it And then you get it on America's logos on it Right, but it's also different in the way it's built Look at the top of it Is that the escape pod at the very top Where they pop off and go to Mars?

1:18:13It's similar Inside the doomsday plane Okay, so go back to the article We'll put it into perplexity What is the capacity Of the United States doomsday E4B plane? Like, what does it do? It can, like, stay in the air for a couple days. It can refuel itself. What is the capacity of the doomsday plane the United States has? It's chock full of cocaine, ketamine.

1:18:46Elon made sure it's got ketamine. Mushrooms, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And it accommodate a little over 100 people with typical published figures ranging from about 108 mission crew up to roughly 111 to 112 total passengers, total personnel, including flight crew and staff and official media descriptions, usually summarized as seating for around 110 people. What can it do? Okay, endurance. Look at that. What's the maximum endurance? Click on that. No, this thing is like a beast. Okay. You're going to give us one answer at a time. It could stay aloft for 150 hours. Oh, that's it? That's not much.

1:19:21With sources describing capabilities from roughly 72 hours, up to about a week in sustained operations. So it can fly for a week. That's crazy. Because it can self-fuel. It can fuel in the air. Keep it up, please. And then how long can it stay with aerial refueling? This is what I think you were getting at. It can theoretically remain airborne for several days, limited mainly by crew fatigue and maintenance needs rather than fuel. Multiple sources describe realistic endurance of roughly three to seven days of continuous flight under sustained operations when supported by tankers and rotation of crew.

1:20:00So here's the thing. If it is a doomsday scenario and you're up in the air for five days, that just means you're going to die in five days. That's right. Or do you just pull this out as a message to everybody? Because you would only need this if there was a nuclear event, right? So it's the idea to just go like, hey, what just happened in Venezuela? just so you guys know we're flying this thing around. Yeah. You know? I guess. When's the last time it flew? When's the last time it made a cameo? Also, I know we were texting about the Delta extraction, and I would never want to. I mean, watching the video of the Delta extraction of Maduro, they built a replica of the building and were blindfolded, going through it, practicing it and stuff.

1:20:50but it it I was talking to your guy when we were coming over it could have been pre-negotiated right there is a chance that that could have been pre-negotiated killed 80 of his okay never mind I don't think it was negotiate yeah no probably not here's one funny but it is weird that his wife was there I guess that was like a thing a couple people flag what did they kidnapped her just that she was there and involved yeah well she's his wife yeah one of the funny ones was somebody posted on Twitter a photograph of this woman and her children and she's in the the journalist said uh this woman and her children her husband and their father was killed in the u.s raid in venezuela and then everybody was like right what was he there for what was he doing there right was he a fucking mercenary like what was he doing hmm you know he was cuban apparently because there was a lot of uh cuban defense that they used, that Maduro used, for whatever reason.

1:21:49I guess communists love each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They hang out with each other. Other dictators, like, hey, let me borrow some of you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, the guy might have been a mercenary. There was certainly mercenaries working for him. I mean, he had 80 people died that were there protecting him. This fucking stormed in. They didn't lose a single U.S. service member. Why? So sick. Crazy. I mean, just, like, flawless. Other dictators have got to be like, fuck. Yeah. I didn't know. I mean, is that why Iran they there was that why Iran was like now's the time like to Well, the people are cracking down.

1:22:25Yeah, people are out in the streets now But now apparently the Islamic regime is assassinating people that are protesting and your boy This is where Elon really shines like, you know, with bringing Starlink over to a country that has cut off Wi-Fi Right, right because that's what they do. They cut off Wi-Fi this so these people can't organize I think it's also been cut off for them. I mean, I don't think they've had a limited version of it for so long. Well, they definitely kill people who protest. They killed a gold medalist in the Olympics. They killed a guy who was a wrestler, gold medalist, because the UFC tried to get involved and keep this guy from being assassinated.

1:22:58They killed him. You've seen, like, pictures and, like, video of Iran in, like, the 70s and stuff? Oh, yeah. Crazy. Yeah, we did that. Yeah, we did that because they wanted to nationalize their oil. We were like, nah, player. Mm-hmm. Nah, nah. Oh, hell nah, brah. Yeah, they had a democratic society. It is entirely because of the intelligence agencies. We went over there and, you know, you could find the story. Find the story so I don't butcher it. But essentially the Shah was like, hey, why is the British Petroleum Company or whatever it was, why are they making all the money? We'll nationalize our oil.

1:23:37And he was gone, you know, within days. And they put in the Islamic regime and it has been a religious state ever since then. I mean, that's that's our doing or the British oil company and us multiple different people. And essentially it was all just about his oil or the country's oil rather. But Maduro, like he was going to be torn limb to limb at some point. Right. Well, he had a bounty on him by the Biden administration. This is one thing that people need to understand. It wasn't just the Trump administration. The Hunter Biden? That's who it is. He had his own administration. He's smoking crack.

1:24:15Kill him! He's ruining my crack! No, the Biden administration had a bounty on Maduro. I believe it was$20 million or$22 million trying to get people off that guy. So it wasn't like we're the only ones that think he was a bad guy. They were trying to use money to get people to kill that guy. And besides the oil of it all, were they going to allow China and Russia to put missiles there? China was there negotiating with Maduro the day the U.S. came and kidnapped him. Bad move, homie. They came in that day and were having meetings with Maduro. And that night, they snatched him out of his bed. You think to get oil or to put nuclear sites?

1:24:58100 % to get oil. Yeah. They want that oil. Everybody wants that oil. It's so funny. Like when I'm, you know, having a kid, you know, the way that it changes you. But like the things you focus on, the things you're obsessed with that keep you up at night. Like before I had a kid, it was like, is he going to text me back? Now I'm like obsessed with like finite resources. I'm like, where's all the helium? Like we're running out of helium. Like where's the helium for? Hilarious. Yeah. I won't be able to have a birthday party for my son.

1:25:28What are clowns going to do? No, it's for ventilators, although I think we found that ventilators actually harmed people. But I think it's like ventilators and medical stuff. Like, you know, helium is finite. Like, there's only a certain amount. And we kind of just use it for like the Macy's Day Parade for like floats and shit. But I think that there is actually a lot of helium in Texas, maybe Oklahoma, and then Qatar is like the other place that we have it. But we have a limited supply of helium. I never even thought about helium before, except the comedy clubs. Don't get me started on sand. Shout out to Philly.

1:26:02Yeah. Philly. Great fucking club. Awesome club. Also, sand. Jamie, what's the story behind Iran and the nationalization of their oil? Well, that's a longer story. Right. Back to the 50s and 70s. Right. But when we did it, because we definitely were involved, the U.S. was involved in overthrowing the legitimate government of Iran. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And putting the Ayatollah in. And then they ruined the entire country because Iranian women are fucking hot. They're beautiful. And smart as shit. I truly, my OB who saved me and my son's life during childbirth, just Iranian bitches do not play around.

1:26:42They make great wrestlers too. United States initially tried to mediate between Britain and Iran during the 1951 nationalization crisis, but then moved to help overturn Iran's elected government to reverse the consequences of the nationalization. It's all about oil. 1953, U.S. officials helped organize the coup that removed Prime Minister Mohamed, how do you say that word? Masadegh? Masadegh? I don't know how to say that word. I'm going to leave you out on a cliff on this one. Whose rise had been closely tied to the nationalization of Iranian oil. In March 1951, Iran's parliament voted to nationalize the assets of British-owned Anglo-Iranian oil company, responding to longstanding grievances over low royalties and foreign control.

1:27:27That's it. Nationalist leader became prime minister soon after and made implementation of nationalization central to his program. So under President Truman, the U.S. generally opposed the idea of full nationalization in principle, but didn't want Iran pushed to the collapse or moved toward the Soviet Union. Washington sent envoys such as—so they wanted to keep it away from the Soviet Union, so they turned it into an Islamic regime. Sure. George McGee and W. Averill Harriman to seek a compromise that would preserve Western access to oil while accepting some changes to the existing concession. Okay.

1:28:01Okay. Couped reversal in 53 under President Eisenhower, U.S. Central Intelligence Agency, there it is, working with Britain's MI6, carried out Operation Ajax, covert operation to overthrow Masadegh, and strengthen the Shah's rule. The coup removed the government most associated with oil nationalization and paved the way in 1954 for an international oil consortium in which five major U.S. oil companies, along with British and other firms, gained significant stakes in Iranian oil, ending exclusive British control. That's it. We did it. So fascinated. We ruined it. There was this TV show on, I think, National Geographic, I want to say, called A Little Light or A Small Light that was about, like, what was going on with, you know, in the Holocaust.

1:28:53Like, it was slow. It wasn't just, like, one day. They just got, you know, it was like they, you know, slowly started, you know, seizing art and then, you know, not letting them get jobs. Like, how these gradual things happen. And like to go from the 70s of like the women out in bathing suits on that to like there's women that or, you know, that had enjoyed the freedom and then all of a sudden had like it's just so fascinating that like how gradual it is. Oh, yeah. And how you get desensitized how you make. It's a frog in boiling water. That's it. Yeah. They don't realize they're boiling until it's too late.

1:29:29Or you do know what's happening. And that's what's happening right now in New York City. But he said he would stop the carriage horses. so I'm all for it. I'm kind of down with that. Yeah, me too. I think that's fucked up. That's disgusting. Those horses do not need to be wandering around New York City sniffing fucking break dust. It's disgusting. Carrying assholes around. It's disgusting. I mean, it's you know, me and my horse thing, but it's so disgusting and the amount, it's like nobody knows how many elephants kill their trainers a year and all kinds of we saw the orca kill the trainer but stuff like that happens so often and they just cover it up.

1:30:04But the amount of carriage horses, a couple of them got out and we've seen them get out and we've seen them collapse and all this horrific stuff. And something else is going on with it, which is, and look, I'm the first person to say like, New York was really safe when the mafia was, you know, kind of like there's a documentary about how they would sort of protect people in the subways and sort of would fill in where the government couldn't. But there's something going on with the horse carriage business. A horse got out who was 29 years old Archie was his name. 29. 29. Old for a horse. Yeah. It only had a couple more years.

1:30:39And I tried to negotiate with them, got a bunch of friends that have like FU money, and basically said, you're going to get$38 ,000 cash. This is a horse that's pretty much done. Right. Cash. We'll take the horse in the middle of the night. No social media, nothing. And they said no. The amount of money they're making is so insane. And it's mostly - From horse-drawn carriages? It's mostly tourists, honestly. They make that much money from horse-drawn carriages? Tons. Tons. From other countries of people that have different ideas of animal, respect towards animals than we do. Oh, so it's mostly foreigners riding in the horse-drawn carriages?

1:31:13I don't think it's - I've seen a lot of white people in those. Oh, really? Well, Polish people can be white. A lot of silly, goofy fucks. Yeah, maybe that. Oh, we're in a horse. It's so romantic. We're out in the air. And clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop, clop. It'd be so much sicker. I pitched them, like, do robot horses, like, sick dinosaurs. Do, like, a dinosaur trolley ride or something around the city. That'd be so much. Jamie, I sent you that thing about the lady that's now in charge of housing in New York. This is wild. This one's wild. She wants to, like, kill real estate value. That's her idea.

1:31:48Like, she wants to, literally, to make housing more affordable, she wants to kill real estate value. It's an inelastic good. You can't. Well, she's, it's moronic. Oh, this woman. Listen to this lady. Listen to this. And she has like a million dollar house? Her mom does. Well, of course. In which housing is owned by a collective and people are paying 40 percent of their income in order to live in their housing. If your income is zero, you pay zero. If your income is$500 ,000 a year, you're paying 30 percent of that. And the government is providing the sort of – the government is the sort of owner or not even the owner.

1:32:23The government doesn't have to be the owner, but the government is what's making sure all of that sort of works in cash flows. The debt to GDP ratio right now is the highest since World War II. So how can the federal government also afford to start subsidizing rental housing costs? The federal government prints money. The federal government can provide money for those. So it's by printing money. Sure. That's her idea. print money the federal government print money to provide housing jack up interest rates jack up the fucking debt print money to provide housing and everyone pays 30 percent for housing first of all why are you talking to me in a hoodie what like what mental illness is that like how dare you first of all you look like powder You look like, yeah.

1:33:14First of all, get a blowout. Throw some mascara. Are we professionals anymore? You're in a Costco hoodie and a T-shirt. What are we doing? They've confronted her about these ideas, and she breaks down crying. But she didn't even know what she was saying. She was like, well, sort of. She was kind of. We won't own it. Her training was UCB. She's just improvising an idea. No, the government does that. She's not even making eye contact. Like, damn. Well, a lot of these Wokies, they come from rich families. They feel bad about being privileged. Yeah. And one specifically thing she said that was going to really impact white people.

1:33:51What is fascinating about that is that because I think she believes she's coming from the moral high ground, I think this is what's really sort of – as someone who I feel like is similar to you and then I'm like, I was as liberal – I had blue hair, you guys. Yeah, I remember when you had blue hair. I rescue pit bulls. Like it doesn't get any more liberal than me. Like it doesn't get any more – But the whole idea with being liberal is like you had me at we're not racist. Everyone's equal. But, you know, diversity. But then it turns into diversity, diversity, but not diversity of thought. Not right.

1:34:27The the the hypocrisy of it got. And I think that as comics were people who, you know, I may not be an expert in politics, but I'm an expert on hypocrisy. When you grow up around alcoholics who say, I love you, and then their behavior's in Congress, you study, you look for patterns of hypocrisy. That's just what we're wired to do. So it just started to just be like, hold on, you know, we don't believe in gender, but we need a female president. You're like, huh? And then it's like, my body, my choice. Unless it's a baby that needs a vaccine for hepatitis B, which comes from butt sex. Like, what are you, right?

1:35:00And sharing needles. And sharing needles. And then, you know, we believe in climate change and sea is rising, but we live on the coast. Like, would you buy a house on the beach if you truly believe that the seas are? You know, we believe in recycling, but why can't you give Andrew Yang another shot? Like, why won't you give what? Where did Beto go? Remember Beto O 'Rourke? Oh, that guy was a mess. But he, but any more so than anything? Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a mess. How, like worse than? No. I mean, they're all a mess. When you have these blanket progressive ideas, you've attached yourself to an ideology and that ideology you'll defend because it's your identity.

1:35:38It's you. It's who you are. But didn't he at least seemed – I didn't know that much about what – from what I knew, he made a joke about his wife taking care of the kids. And the left was like, you're sexist. I hate women. It was like this. But what I saw with her was this idea of I'm so moral that I don't even have to make a good argument. and the left started stopped making an argument or even uh outlining what they're just well no i'm moral and i'm better than you and i don't have to even make an argument well that i mean i don't know when she gave that interview so let's suppose she gave that interview a long time ago before she had this job and she was just saying this is what ideally i would like and then she gets the job right and now when she's what is her official job it was uh 2021 was the interview there you go in the Office to Protect Tenants.

1:36:30So was she working for that office back then? No, no, no, no. She would have been, I think, on Mondami's... I don't even know if he was running... He wouldn't have been running back in 2021, would he? Right? Well, she definitely was doing podcasts with him back then. Well, she definitely just got out of SoulCycle in this video. But, yeah, I don't know what her actual position was back at the time. She might have just been on his campaign. Okay, so this was Reason, and they were having this conversation with her. Yeah. And so to leave the city's office to protect tenants. Look, there's definitely slumlords.

1:37:00You should definitely protect tenants. There's definitely shitty owners and landlords that are assholes. She's basically saying government housing. Yeah, but what she's saying is crazy. Like taking 30 % of whatever you make, that's nuts. So if you make a billion dollars a year, if you're Elon Musk or whoever it is, you have to pay 30%. Yeah. That's bananas. The thing about New York and maybe this is, you know, and I don't I don't even know what's, you know, side anything an idea makes anybody on anymore. Sometimes I'll say something and people like, oh, so you're like all left. And I'm like, I don't know.

1:37:34I just thought that was a good idea. Then people like, oh, so you're like super conservative. I'm like, no, I don't. Don't shop. Yeah, you got it. And so shop, don't adopt. And so New York is expensive. That's the deal. If you don't have you can't. I remember one time going to Howard Stern's house and Howard Stern is he's got more money than got. And it was like still and he was able to get to buy two floors of it. But it's still like an apartment. You know what I mean? It's like New York. This is what whatever 100 million dollars or whatever gets you in New York. Like I know it's not still not that big.

1:38:06Like, like, like my horse is stable. My horse is stable is like twice the size of this. But if you want to live in the city for convenience, that's what it costs. That's right. Yeah. And if you're Jeffrey Epstein, somebody donates you a house. That's right. Or an office on the Harvard campus. Yeah. I love it when people that are professors at Harvard or like I was a professor at Harvard. Like, well, so Epstein had an office, too. But like, OK, I feel like it's just like New York's supposed to be expensive. That's the deal. You know, and, you know, I had a place there for like a year. I remember I was in like Chelsea area.

1:38:40And because I just want to go back and forth. I was like, there's something about New York that does really put a fire under your ass. Like I remember, you know, actually it was Dice back in the day. I used to just ask comics like, you know, because you're just you're a nobody and you're just starting and you're in the hallway with a legend. Like, what do you say? You know, and I would always just go like, if you have any advice, happy to hear it. You know, some people love giving advice. Other people. I was like going up to Bill Burr, like, help me. Like I could read the vibe. And he said, sleep, like get as much sleep as you can.

1:39:12and then he was like when you make it make sure you don't get too comfortable because like as comics we still need to kind of and i think that for a long advice for a long time i i think i took bad advice that maybe i had just gleaned i don't remember anyone giving it to me of like you have to be crazy to be funny or your life has to be a mess to be funny i think a lot of comics hold on to that if i ever get happy or have a kid or i'm in a healthy relationship i won't be as funny i don't think that's true i actually think it freed up bandwidth like getting out of it doesn't have to be true but it can be true can be that's right well comfort can make people fat too they can get lazy but also it's like if you're not you know that's why i go to the grocery store i got you know not that i you know wouldn't but like you got to make sure that you're still in the trenches and that you still don't you don't make your life so easy that you know you're not disassociated you're not disconnected from the outside world that's right and just atrophy like and less resilient and, you know, and, you know, so what am I talking about?

1:40:13This is where mom brain does come in. You were talking about New York City? New York City. So I'm in New York City and I just wanted to write new stuff. It was like things were going well. I bought a house and I was like, you know, New York's just a little more of a dogfight. And I wanted to go to the cellar and, you know, the stand and all these places. And I'm in this apartment. It's probably - What year is this? Eight, right before the pandemic. Oh. Yeah. You got an apartment in New York before the pandemic? Mm-hmm. For like a – I was already out of it probably six months before. So were you going back and forth?

1:40:39I had it for a year. I was going back and forth. Because I also was like touring so much that I would go, okay, if I'm going to be in, you know, Florida at the end of, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I should just go to New York because then I'm going to North Carolina that Thursday anyway. Right. Like I was just like doing clubs to work on the new hour. And you're single, so it's easy. You didn't have a kid. Exactly. And let me just stay on the East Coast, right? And let me just like do a software update. It's like Ari made me go on a hike with him once and he's like, you need to go to Somalia for a year with no phone.

1:41:08I was like, I'll just – how about I get a place in New York? Ari's ridiculous. His ideas are so ridiculous. I'll go to Little Italy. How about that? She'll go to Tibet. Yeah. She'll live in a yurt in Mongolia. And I remember like every time I would turn on the bathtub, the toilet would – the effluvium from the toilet would come through the bathtub. It was like some wild – dude. And then there was also an elevator in the building that people could get off on your floor. So half the time I'd be sleeping and like a bunch of dudes would just like get off, you know. And I had this plumber come and I was like, oh, can you help with the shit, the gutter going into the bath?

1:41:43One thing that's relaxing is a bath. And then I'm just like in sewage. And he was like, it's New York. And I was like, no, but like, can you fix it? He's like, nah. Like his job is just going around to people and reminding them they live in New York. And this is the deal. like there's no way to stop the fucking sewer water he's like i could snake it but like that's not it's just this is and this is part of why like trump won like like infrastructure you know there's pipes explode all the time because they're just hitting their limit of being you know 100 whatever years old like um but new york is the place you go when you kind of you know want to be in a dogfight on a daily basis you're gonna be spending more every time you sit down it's 100 bucks you know it's even if you get affordable housing in new york like a bottle of water food Like everything's expensive there.

1:42:28Right. You know? Because it has to be brought in. It's emotionally expensive. It's literally expensive, figuratively expensive. Like it's, you know, I – Well, this lady is going to reduce all that. She's going to make everything valueless. Like – but why would you want to take the – yeah. I mean there's things that are artificial value like art and stuff like that. But land is – What it's probably going to do is it's probably going to lead to some sort of a Republican government there. There are probably going to be a lot of backlash. People are probably going to organize. they're probably going to realize that you can't have communism and it'll swing the other way.

1:43:00Because everyone's kind of leaving, right? All the people with money are leaving New York. A lot of people are leaving New York. So they're saying like... Fucking Robert De Niro was talking about it. Whoa. He's like the king of New York. Because they want to tax his savings. I don't know if that's accurate. That might have been a fake quote. They need to use everybody's tax dollars to pay for all this, but all the taxpayers are leaving that are big money. Exactly. But if they're taxing everybody... The thing is, it's like you can't just tax your way out of problems because we know that that money goes and it's grossly inefficient what they do with it.

1:43:31The government is not good at using your money. They've never been good. There's not like one example of the government doing an amazing job with your money. Originated as satire. There it is. It's fake. I mean, he owns like hotels there. He does like the film festival there and everything, right? He's like, yeah. Oh, he loves it there. He's like the guy. People stay outside of his house and yell at him. In New York. Crazy Trump people. I mean. They know where he lives. So they stand outside his house and yell at him, fuck you, Bobby. Good for everyone. Trump won, Bobby, you fucking loser. That's the crazy thing about living in New York.

1:44:07Somebody just walk right up to your door. If you have one of those walk-ups. Knock, knock, knock. It's the sidewalk is in front of your house. That's what De Niro lives. Let's go knock. Didn't some crazy person break into his house recently? An ex-wife? Like a lady. Oh. I think like some crazy lady stalker. broke into his house when he wasn't there. Lady stalkers can really get far. Because no one thinks that they're... I don't want to talk about one too much, but there's one in my life who can just... Serial burglar accused of breaking into Robert De Niro's New York City townhouse went on new crime spree after release on bail.

1:44:41Did they know it was Robert De Niro's house? Yeah. Who is this person? How do they know he lived there? Serial burglar Shanice Aviles was allegedly caught red-handed trying to steal Oscar-winning actors' Christmas presents. Whoa! She's the Grinch. She was released from Rikers on May 3rd. Since then, she's been charged with at least two more thefts, including one in which she allegedly snuck into a Columbia University building and slugged a security guard. She's a villain. I love, like, a Christmas present marauder. Well, she was charged with stealing$416 worth of merchandise from a TJ Maxx on 6th Avenue.

1:45:23You can get a lot for that amount. Yeah. A TJ Maxx. That's like most of the store. She was busted again. Let me see her face. Let's see if I can see Craig. Yep. Craig's egg. Look at her eyebrows. Are those shaved? Look at her face. Yeah, you got me. Oh, damn. Whatever. Oh, damn. Whatever. Poor Robert. I mean, like, if you're stealing Robert De Niro's Christmas presents, what's she going to do with an aura ring? it's good security guard patrolling the building around 6 30 p.m. spotted tools sitting near an open window that should have been locked shut then found a villa is inside the building used tools filling up her bag with various items according to a criminal complaint yeah she's tools broken in the house bro get a fucking dog get a belgian mouth get a meat missile people not having dogs like what are you doing man i don't know how to convince people i mean yeah i never have problems like that i leave all my doors unlocked well i wouldn't do that i'm like i wish a motherfucker would whoa i mean i have large dogs yeah but still yeah shoot your dogs pretty easy and then so your new dog was marshall like instantly like loved them oh of course they're best friends for the new dogs also like a little anti-wolf they've taken wolves and turned them into these cute cuddly things you can carry around with you when i look at that that to me is like I feel like humans were kind of like this is never going to change but things do change fast sometimes like you know like smoking I remember when I first moved to LA people were smoking inside and then I remember people going outside to smoke like it just in our lifetime we like watched like a huge change like they banned smoking in bars yeah huge cataclysmic changes like can happen you know um but that's just because the people that were working in the bars we're getting fucking cancer so if the thing is like i want to be able to smoke in a bar that's great but what about the poor waitress that's right the second hands right this lady who just wants to make a living and doesn't even smoke now she has lung cancer that's crazy so that that is a that's a liability for the organization for the city totally it's bad for everybody yeah pregnant women can't come drink at the bar right go outside and you can't drink if you're pregnant I know.

1:47:32I'm kidding. I'm kidding. What? Now you tell. Ah, damn it, Joe. But also. You can get hip. Be shot. I am. I'm obsessed with the things that are so dangerous that used to just like be places like in shoe stores. They used to have little x-ray machines. And shoe stores? Yep. And people started getting foot cancer that worked there because all day they just put their foot in the x-ray machine. What? Because that's how they used to. I remember because there was a shoe store where my mom lived and it had like an old antique one. An old antique x-ray. It was a little x-ray machine. That's crazy. Crazy.

1:48:05And if you're working there and you're bored and you're just sticking your foot in it all day. That's nuts. I never knew that. That's how they would take your foot size. Isn't it nuts how like new technology, they have no idea it's killing people? No clue. Do you know about the radium girls? Love it already. Oh, this is a horrible story. so when you have a watch like you know like a Rolex and it's at night you can see it's loom so during the daytime it charges up at the light and at night you can see the indicators they light up they glow in the dark the reason they glow in the dark is because they're fucking radioactive so they paint not now I don't think but they paint them and so these girls were touching the tips of this fucking paintbrush when they were painting loom on these dials and they were all getting horrific cancer where they were getting holes in their face.

1:48:58See if you can find some of the images. Oh, bummer. Well, there's some images of a radium sickness. Are these just your porn searches, Jamie? We're looking for the Uranium Girls. These are the Radium Girls. Bummer. Radium Girls is like, I think there's a documentary. Yeah, there is. No, there's a movie from 2020. Yeah, because that's Joey. The Dark Story of America's Shining Women. Well, it's like all kinds of stuff like this. Like Christopher Reeve's wife got lung cancer from his machine. Oh, God. I know. Really? Yeah, that kind of stuff kills me. Oh, my God. I always think about nail girls, the girls that are in there doing acrylic nails.

1:49:37Oh, yeah. You're just inhaling this all day. I know. And they wear like a fucking mask, like a surgeon's mask. That's just so they can talk shit about us. But that surgeon's mask is not going to help you from the fucking fumes. Yeah. People that work around toxic chemicals. I was reading this thing about women that clean, that women that work with cleaning solvents all day, they get lung cancer, and it's like they're smoking three packs a day. Totally. Like the woman that's been with me, she's like my family, who helps me maintain my house. It's all, we make it. It's all clean, you know, like not ammonia and stuff.

1:50:10Organic stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like vinegar and - Well, you should just have that in your house anyway. Tea tree and stuff, yeah. Even if it's not you cleaning. You don't want that shit in your fucking house, period. Yeah, but then like as women, And then we like spray our hair and put a bunch of makeup on, you know. Yeah. We're all high at all times. Just chock full of chemicals. Like it's so wild. You think about the amount of endocrine disruptors we put on a daily basis. Pumping potulism into your face to keep it from moving. You know what? I don't do it anymore. Ah. Congratulations on your eyebrows.

1:50:38Your forehead moves. Your eyebrows have been freed. It really is. My hairline went bad. Well, you said you've been doing the red light. Red light is the key. Yep. Like red light, it brings collagen to your skin. It gives your skin a more youthful appearance. It like helps your entire body heal better. It helps your mitochondria. But we were talking about this before the podcast for both of us. It's improved our vision. That's right. It really has. Like my vision was on a downward, like very steady. Like I have these things here, these reading glasses. I don't use those at all anymore. I can completely read my phone now with no reading glasses.

1:51:15And before it was a blurry mess. Also, by the way, everyone I know with kids, like they're, and I'll be exaggerating a little bit, but their kids are getting glasses so young and having eye stuff so young. They're staring at screens all the time. You know, one of the things that you're supposed to do is if you're staring at something like really close to your face all the time, you should take breaks and look at things that are far away. Because otherwise, I guess your cornea reshapes and like your eyes literally become more accustomed to trying to look at things closer. It just fucks your eyes up.

1:51:46Right, right. And then the light from the screen, that can't be good. I know. I try to do the blue light glasses as much as I can. The amount of glasses and lights I have in my house right now looks like a fucking chemistry studio. But yes, I got, so I do red light on my skin. And because I was like, you know, look, the Botox thing is like TV executive ages ago when I was truly like in my 20s. The way they sell you on Botox is they say it's preventative. And you go, oh, yeah, okay. In your 20s they were telling you to do it? I was like 27. I was like making a TV show, a couple TV shows. And they were like, well, she looks tired.

1:52:20I'm like, yeah, because I'm tired. Because you keep sending me notes at 2 in the morning to take out all the good jokes. Like, of course I'm tired. And so, you know, they say to do it so that you don't get wrinkles later. And then you're like, OK, well, now I'm 35. Like, why am I still getting it? Like, shouldn't I enjoy the prevention now? Like, it just sort of becomes a do this forever. And I was like, I don't even know who I'm doing this for at this point. you know I just uh was like I guess especially if you just want to be a comic and you don't want to be cast in tv roles anymore yeah but also movie roles even in tv roles you can't act if you don't have expression on your face it's the whole thing you know we've all seen actors where we're like I you just see one teardrop go down yo I'm right here yeah yeah you know bro talks the rise of bro talks is weird I shouldn't but I do I judge men very badly when I think they have botox When I see a man's face doesn't move, I'm like, I am not listening to anything coming out of your mouth.

1:53:19Especially when it's hot on a guy. Why not enjoy the benefit of age looking good on a man? Yeah, because a certain amount of age, they're like, oh, my God, I'm so old. When you get to, like, that Stallone age. Like, he was at the White House receiving some fucking award. You know, there was a bunch of guys that went to the White House and got awards. Did you ever see that? Sorry. Awards are so silly. You stand there and they put it around your neck. You're like, yep, I deserve this. But Stallone is there and it looks so crazy. He used to be my canary in a coal mine. Because I'm like, wow, you could be 70 and be jacked.

1:53:55Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is awesome. Because he kept it together for a long fucking time. He was in great shape for a long time. But now he looks like he's just doing a bunch of stuff. Look at him there. That's crazy. First of all, that hairline is crazy. This whole lineup of people is batshit. Can you print this out so I can just put it in my bathroom? Is that Pacino? Who's the guy on the left? We should know the answer. Is that Gene Simmons? Yeah. The woman? No, Gene Simmons is there. Is this the trans advocacy group? Salone, he's 79 years old. Let me see. Well, that was his way up. Yeah, but it's just like, so who's there?

1:54:40Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons. What was... And Stallone. And who's the guy in the back? Are these the Benjamin Button Awards? Like, what is the actual award? Who's the guy in the far right? It doesn't say?

1:54:55Michael Crawford, whoever that is. I'm sure he's been in a bunch of stuff I enjoy. I just didn't know his name. Like entertainers. Yeah, okay. So they all got a big award. But it's just the way Stallone looked. It was like, God, what are you doing? It looks like a facelift. Is it Trump Kennedy Center? Oh. Oh, yeah, sure. So he was acknowledging his 80s heroes with awards. I used to like you in the 80s. But by the way, just ask them to go to dinner. Like how insecure that you have to give an award. Like there was, what was it? Was it Cosby that Harvard like gave him a fake award just to see if he would show up and he showed up?

1:55:34Oh, really? Like how narcissists will just show up to accept, like, greatest comedy person ever. And he, like, showed up and accepted it. And they had to, like, get him from the airport. They were like, fuck, this was, like, a joke. Really? Yeah. Are you sure? Jamie. I don't know anything about that. Go to Blue Sky. They had a fake award? Go to Blue Sky. They, like, the Hasty Pudding or whatever Harvard's comedy troupe is. Oh, they did it? Did, like, a prank where they'll give celebrities awards. Just to see if they show up? Yeah. And Cosby showed up. That's actually funny. Conan and his friend.

1:56:07Okay. Conan O 'Brien convinced Cosby that he was awarded fake the Harvard Lampoon's lifetime achievement in comedy to be presented at Harvard. Bill Cosby actually flew all the way in a private plane to be picked up by Conan in his parents station wagon. A modified bowling trophy was given as an award. Oh, boy. Like he showed up to get it. That's hilarious. Imagine. That is hilarious. Imagine. So that was Conan when he was in Harvard. Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. So many funny writers came out of Harvard. Out of Harvard, yeah. The Hollywood Lampoon. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy. I mean, it's interesting because they've, you know, not to talk about TV dorkery, but I know a lot of them.

1:56:46We're friends with a lot of them. But, like, there was a little bit of, like, elitism. I think it's part of what made TV start becoming kind of irrelevant is these sort of, like, elite writers from Harvard who don't necessarily have a, you know, I think that the best comedy, everyone can see themselves in it. It's about something that we can all kind of relate to on some level. That's all these sort of kids going to a, you know,$70 ,000 a year elite school making shows like The Office and, you know, these comedies that, you know, you know, look like it's it's a lot of my friends worked on The Office.

1:57:18I love you guys. It's going to get me in trouble. But it is kind of like making fun of poor people. It's like, wouldn't it be funny if people like worked at a paper mill and like went to Chili's? Like what a bunch of losers. My family members like go to Chili's. That is a real photo. That's Conan right there. He was 19 when this happened.

1:57:36Like they had to like scramble to pick him up. That's actually amazing. He talks about it on a podcast. That's actually amazing that he did that. That's actually amazing. Like that is, I love the little things where when you find out someone was a sociopathic monster that you're like, we should have known. Even though it had nothing to do with drugging women, like the fact that he showed up to receive this award. Well, actually the Harvard Lampoon is like a famous comedy thing. So it would make sense that they would give him an award. That's true. That's true. And before he was a monster, he was, I mean, like you look at that image there, that's a black and white image.

1:58:09So Conan was 19. Conan's got to be in his late 50s, right? How old is Conan now? Yes, this was in 85. Okay. So he was very respected back then. Yeah. Like Bill Cosby was the man. Bill, look, that show, I mean, when I tell you, like my top five shows, it's Cosby, you know, Martin, married with children was really big. Can you even get Cosby anymore? Have they hid that? Maybe not even because no one thought it was weird that he was a gynecologist that worked out of his basement.

1:58:43How about that one episode where he had his secret barbecue sauce that made everybody horny? That's right.

1:58:53Who greenlit that? You're going to drug people? Cliff Huxtable would walk up the stairs from his basement, take off plastic gloves. Oh, because he was just touching pussies. It would have just been inside a woman, presumably. He kept them on. He smelled off the stairs. He would just be like, yeah, like, whatever he was doing. And they'd be like, anyway, so what's for dinner? And you're like, wait, hold on. That's nuts. I didn't know that. I never watched that show. He was a gynecologist. I didn't even know he was a gynecologist. Out of his house. Oh, my God. He would deliver babies. That's so crazy.

1:59:22Yeah, I always thought that was wild. That's so crazy. He'd take the plastic gloves off at the top of the stairs. Like, finger. I was dating a girl once back in the day, and she told me that her gynecologist hit on her. And she said she was so creeped out. Her gynecologist called her up at home and asked her out on a date. And she was like, what? Because he got a chance to take a look at that thing. That thing looked pretty good. I mean. That's so crazy. Your gynecologist asks you on a date. And you're at home. And this is back, by the way. Like when – I don't know. I guess they had caller ID in the 80s.

1:59:58So this would be after they had caller ID. Like you probably think the doctor is calling you up because like something is going on. But wait. Didn't we just go on one? You just fingered me. Yeah. What was that? Hold on. What's your definition of a date? That's what that was. I thought we were a thing. We're together. You've seen my pussy and my asshole. This is nuts. I've been in the stirrups. You fingered me and have all my money. Jesus Christ. That is – I mean it is interesting that today for a guy to become a gynecologist – I It was like the only way, you know, only men could be back in the day.

2:00:27But now for a guy to be like, I'm in med school to be a gynecologist. Yeah, everybody's like, what? Right. Like, if I was a woman, I would never go to a male gynecologist. I'm good. That's crazy. I know. Just the idea, if he's heterosexual and he's staring at your cooter and thinking about sliding up in there. Or the opposite. Or if he, like, doesn't care. You're like, why are you not looking? I'm not excited. Yeah, why'd you put gloves on? Look at that thing. Yeah. Look at it shine. I put glitter on it just for you. My kiddies. Do you remember that? No. Butt. Butt. Glitter? Butt glitter? For real?

2:01:02No. Remember butt crystal? Remember? Okay. There were be dazzling, pussy be dazzling. No way. Yes. This was a thing. Did that give you cancer too like baby powder does? This was a thing. Definitely something. But yeah, there was. I'm just always fascinated by like conflating like feminism with just like. Like, just, what are we doing? Bedazzling our pussies. Like, we're not. Like, free the nipple. Like, we're fine. Joe wasn't off on something. Okay, okay. Is this William O 'Garby? Glitter butts. The hot new trend for summer, glitter butt. That's so ridiculous. Like, don't look at my butt. But look, it's glittery.

2:01:43That's hilarious. Glitter butt is pretty nuts. There's also the butt plug thing. So where are these people wearing these glitter pants? I mean, it's not even pants. That was another thing that hoes would do back in the day. Remember they would just paint their tits and you can kind of go out in public with paint on your tits like on New Year's Eve and stuff like that? Yes, yeah. And people go, oh, you're topless. No, I can't paint on anything. And then it was like, why are you looking? It's like, okay. What? Okay, these girls have glitter all over their pants. By the way, how toxic is that shit?

2:02:11Hold on. That's just, hold on. So we talked about the Wizard of Oz and that poor dude who had to play the Tin Man. That guy got fucked up by that paint. So did the woman that was the witch. She got her face caught on fire. Oh, caught on fire? Yeah. Which, by the way, now we'd pay dermatologists to set our faces on fire. But back then, that was accidental. Had to take a layer of skin off. Yeah, she - So you can look young again. Gotta get to that young skin. Was it - What was it? Asbestos or what - Well, she had green paint on her face all day long, right? But in Tin Man, it was - It was aluminum, I think.

2:02:44Aluminum, that's correct. Yes. Which we put in deodorant, fine. Not the kind of - I used Dr. Squatch. It's natural. Yeah. Works too. That shit lasts all day long. A doctor's quatch is legit. Also, if I stink that...

2:03:26Oh no, you don't want to smell me. Oh, yeah. No, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry to your wife. I love her too much to encourage this. It's like you deal with my breath. What? Brush your fucking teeth. Are you crazy? But isn't there something about like smelly? If someone smells bad, like your wife, your BO probably smells good to her. Huberman actually talked about this when he was on my podcast back in the day about like if someone doesn't smell good to you, it means you're probably related. I think you need to talk to her. She would probably correct you. Yeah. I fucking smell gross. I eat mostly meat.

2:03:55Because you're always in ketosis. Yeah, that's different. It's just rotten meat coming out of my pores and pneumonia from sweat. But if someone's like morning breath smells bad to you and they just, you know, like. Everybody's morning breath smells bad. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But if you like. You got to be really horny to make out with someone in the morning. Yeah. Like full on make. Like you got to. That's like. That's ultimate. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't care what your breath smells like. Come here. That's like crazy. Crazy. Just. Yeah. Flip me over like an adult.

2:04:21Yeah. That's like if you don't care about yeast infections. Who cares about that smell? Let's go. Let's fucking go. There is something sick about once you birth a child, you're so tapped into this like feral, like it's just so wild that I don't even think about morning breath anymore. It's you're just like. Well, you're cleaning diapers all the time. It's like when I was on Fear Factor, I didn't even flinch if someone threw up in front of me. I'd seen so many people throw up. Like one time my wife threw up in her car. And this is how I am immune to throw up. Because some people puke if they see.

2:05:00Because of all my years on Fear Factor, I'm completely immune. When I was a kid, if you threw up in the hallway in high school, I'd be like, bleh. Which, like, there's a biological basis for that. We probably ate the same thing in the tribe. Exactly. That got wiped out of me on Fear Factor, 100%. She was coming home from the gym and she drank wheatgrass juice and she fucking threw up in her center console. Yep, I've done that. And she was crying. She was like, I can't even clean it. It's so disgusting. I go, I'll clean it. I don't give a fuck. I cleaned the whole thing. I got in there with towels.

2:05:29I cleaned our puke out. It didn't even make me flinch I'd seen so many people puke I've seen people puke for days and days and I mean I did 148 episodes so I said at least a Hundred and thirty of those times people had to eat something that made them throw up. So I saw Multiple people there's six contestants I saw so many people gag and I had to be interviewing them like while they were gagging sometimes, while they were throwing up in a dumpster, I'd be talking to them that that was such a big deal, that show that was such a big deal you know I took that show because I thought it was going to be cancelled I thought, I'm going to get some jokes out of this they're going to stick dogs on people but you underestimated our deep desire for schadenfreude like watching other people be scared and humiliated the coliseum basically well it was also i underestimated the entertainment value of the competition because it was competition that was the the grossness was great it you know was definitely fun to watch and but there was also like real like significant competition yeah there were some great moments This is one moment with his mother and her daughter beat this father and his son and the father and son were assholes.

2:06:53They were just the dad was like a dick. Like, yeah, this is how you get ahead in this world. You be a fucking dick. And they were talking crazy shit. That's it. And then the kid fumbled and fucked things up and the dad fucked things up. And the whole crew was crying. Everybody was so happy. Yeah, I'm fine. I cried. I'm fascinated. I'll cry if I start talking about it. I just sent Andrew Schultz a clip that I'll cry if I talk about because he was posting something about like a daughter asking his her a gymnast who the daughter was getting attached and wouldn't let her go to the routine. So she did it with her daughter.

2:07:26And there's this there's this video of this girl. I think it's in Brazil. She's doing a cooking competition. And, you know, there's like, you know, timed cooking competitions. And she can't open a jar. And her dad is in the audience and she runs and gives it to her dad and her dad just opens it. and it's like gives me goosebumps every time but um dad's man um but that uh that shit just kills me that oh god this kills me this is how she runs she can't get it open why do they make jars so fucking hard to open by the way if your hands that's her dad look at her dad oh god oh god oh no so this is costing all this time and he's freaking out oh jesus christ oh god oh god

2:08:14that's cool you can do that though yeah because it's ridiculous that you can't like opening a jar you gotta hit it on the side of a thing yeah or like if you just clank it on something but um it's like i think he posted something about you know when like runners don't finish the race and the dad comes out and like helps him cross the finish line or something oh gosh i love shit like that so much. But I can't remember where we were on this. Now I'm just going to sob. Competition. Fear factor. Disgusting. Yeah. It turned out to be fun. That's what it is. I think I'm fascinated by it. I'm like a football dork.

2:08:46I know you're not like the biggest football fan. Even though you've been going to some games. Yeah. I like it now. I get it. I watched the Texas A &M versus the UT game. Oh, shit. It was incredible. Incredible. And I think that what you're going for is it's almost like this gambling addiction in a way because it's like even when your team loses, you're all losing together. And it's, you know, you get to feel like you're a part of something. There's so much like, you know, reptilian sort of hardwiring at play. But for me, it's like about these goosebumps moments that you can't have every game that would take the value out of them.

2:09:21Like this past season when have you been I don't know if you're a football guy, Jamie, but Philip Rivers coming back to the Colts. and him coming out of retirement. Two major players came out of retirement this year that were like coaching. They were done coaching their kids little league in high school. Phillip Rivers was just coaching, you know, what, 45, 44, 45 years old? It's a fun caveat with that too, but. Tell me. He's got so many kids. 10, right? Yeah. He was about to hit retirement. His five years, you have to wait to go to the Hall of Fame. But now he just like re-upped his NFL health insurance.

2:09:55So that gets coverage for – I mean, he's rich as shit. He doesn't really need it. But just a little caveat of, like, he gets coverage for life. Him getting a call. Here's what I realized, and I realized this at the UT game. When you're a fan of football, you get big moments many times. If you're a fan of a fight, you get the fight, and then one guy wins and one guy gets horribly destroyed sometimes. Like sometimes your guy gets flatlined, and you're watching your guy laid out with his toes curled, his legs stiff, his arms up in the air, he's completely unconscious, and the other guy is on the cage like this, and then the medical people are taking care of your guy, and you're like, oh, fuck.

2:10:36Yeah. It's the worst. When you see, like, families and children see their dad get knocked out. No. Oh, it's so hard. No. That's so hard when you see wives crying, and then the camera turns to them, you see them they're like oh no um it's just football's a different thing you know when someone throws the ball and then the person catches it goes across the line and you see a hundred thousand that's right that's it that's it that's it and so much is the type of fan base you know but like um but the people in the audience feel better that's right it's like they are they're celebrating in a different way because when a fighter wins it's an individual but when a team wins it's your team that's right that's different and you can make the argument on some level that you know you know not you're a part of it but like the energy you bring like when i went to the rams game i'm like an eagles fan and rams game all green all eagles fans coming for away games like you know it's imagine being like the eagles and looking out at like all green in another you know city also is it matt prady i think it's his last name is a kicker for was it the bills both of the kickers got injured and like they didn't have a kicker and they're like imagine getting the call you're coaching like your middle middle school sons whatever little league football and you get the call like we need you you know really it's like yeah he goes in and he kicks like the winning field goal this was in september i want to say i love shit like that so much that's awesome you know when you also just moments like what saquon barkley did last year like jumping backwards over like there's a video of his teammates watching him do it going fucked like it's just I love watching the interplay between the team members too it's like comics it's like you know I get it I didn't like it before but I get it way more now I get it way more because for me it's like a watered-down version of fighting I'm like well but now I get it it's not that you're the as an audience member it's better because you're like a part of the game like we are scoring.

2:12:36It's a really, it's a stupid thing to say, we. You never say we won that fight. That's right. That's right. Also, but I think the we of it also happens to, you know, the reason I think as live performers, when you see a team like the Eagles do so, so well, and then this last time they played the Rams just fall apart. You're like, what, just per what we were talking about with Fear Factor and what you're capable of when you're on TV, when you've been insulted, when your ego's been when you're in front of your kid right i'm not going to eat a live rat but if my kid is watching and someone just insulted my kid it's i'm a different person you know what i'm saying i will fucking fuck this rat in the ass you know whatever i need to do or if money's involved i'm obsessed with sort of like the you know the most dangerous team to me is always the one that hasn't won any games that's the most dangerous fighter is the one that needs money that's right that's right and uh i'm just fascinated didn't floyd mayweather used to practice by doing like live Facebook Facebook lives with like girls around to try to did he really huh I think we do like Facebook lives well he definitely did that to show off to he was so fucking good yeah he was so good but he he would do crazy things like they would have rounds that would go on for 10 minutes he would you know he would have like what would he call it like the dog pound he like a name for it we'd bring a bunch of guys in there and they would just box they wouldn't have any rounds They would just box So like you know it's sink or swim You got no rounds You're just in there but no one's going to tell you to stop This is crazy This is crazy But he also He also was a master At boxing people and talking shit To them I'm sorry about my voice But it was a part of like the whole thing of it Was that you were watching All this chaos And then you're dealing with the psychological aspect of each guy talking shit to each other.

2:14:26And it's also like... That's it, the doghouse. It refers to his gym's notoriously grueling sparring sessions known for intense, no-rules fighting until someone quits, designed to push boxers to their absolute limits. I mean, it's not a mystery why he's one of the absolute greatest of all time. Until someone quits. Yeah. By the way, this guy's had multiple hand surgeries, so he couldn't really even, like, blast on guys like he used to when he was younger. You know, when he was younger, they called him Pretty Boy Floyd. And so in the early days of his career, he was a knockout artist. He was fucking people up.

2:15:00But he doesn't have big hands. And so he was breaking his hands, like, multiple times. And so then he became Money Mayweather and just started boxing everybody's face off. And, like, if you go back and watch some of his early knockouts, also, he wasn't certainly facing the caliber of fighters he faced as a champion. But he's the best ever at not getting hit. That guy's been cracked maybe like three or four times in his entire professional career, which is wild. And is his ability to not get hit, is that from outworking everyone or something? Is there some gift? It's a whole bunch of things that came together.

2:15:40So one of them, his dad, Jesus Christ, his dad was Floyd Mayweather Sr. Okay. His dad fought Sugar Ray Leonard. and gave him a hell of a fight. His uncle was Roger Mayweather. Roger Mayweather, multiple time world champion, the Black Mamba. So he grew up in a gym with Jeff Mayweather. And these guys were all killers. And they were boxing scientists. They knew everything about boxing. It's a famous quote that people always use, Roger Mayweather. See if you can find it. Where he's like, most people don't know shit about boxing. And everybody who knows anything about boxing, And by the way, I'm not a boxing expert.

2:16:20I'm like a fan compared to the regular person. I know more than most people. Hey, Rhonda, he's a fan. Most people don't know shit about boxing. But see if you can get him to say it because it's just it's the way he says it. Most motherfuckers don't know shit about boxing.

2:16:40And it's 100 percent accurate. It's 100 percent accurate. Is boxing like, and not to like compliment like what we do in any, this might sound insulting to athletes, but like, is it similar in a way to comedy in that there's certain things like you can't really teach? Like you have to find your thing. Well, there's certainly like genetic advantages that are huge. They're almost insurmountable. There's some people that have like speed, like Roy Jones Jr. was the best example of that. He had speed that was otherworldly. Like no one had seen anything like that before. And he had a style that no one else had.

2:17:17Roy Jones, so the most important punch in boxing, if you ask any boxing trainer, they'll say the jab. The jab is what establishes distance. The jab is what you could score with. The right hands try to knock him out. Left hooks try to knock him out. Uppercut. But the jab is the most important punch in boxing. Roy Jones rarely threw jabs. He would throw left hooks. His left hook was so fast that he would throw a leaping left hook and it would hit you as fast or faster than another person's jab. And you had to calibrate for that when you're fighting him. Like, all of a sudden, there's a guy who can do things that are literally superhuman.

2:17:50Like, no one can move like him. He has a left bicep that's, like, twice the size of his right bicep from throwing left hooks. And is this, like, how Michael Phelps has normally long arms or something, right? No, he developed that left bicep. That's why his right bicep is small. His right bicep is normal-sized. His left bicep is fucking huge. So look at the photo. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Bro, let me tell you something. Roy Jones in his prime was a freak of nature. And do you try to go like, okay, you know, I'm just going to. Look at his build. Look at that left hook. Insane. Dude. No. He was a freak and also extremely intelligent, crafty, set you up, knew what to do to get you to move this way and then you move in that way.

2:18:35And then he's doing things you can't do. So you don't anticipate that someone's going to be able to leap in from there and catch you with an uppercut. You don't even understand how it happened. He's the only guy in the history of, I believe, CompuBox. It might still be the case. And it was in this fight, the Vinny Pazienza fight. Look at that. Put his hands behind his back and knocked the guy out. One of the only fights in the history of the sport where the opponent landed zero punches. That's the stoppage of Vinny Pazienza. He was a freak. Wait, how did that even happen? He hit him with a left hook to the body.

2:19:08He was so fast. He would hit. Jeez. Yeah, he was so good. All of his fights were essentially executions. He went from 168, he won the world title at 168, went up to light heavyweight, won the world title at light heavyweight, went up to heavyweight, won the world title at heavyweight. He was a fucking middleweight in the Olympics. That looks like, remember the video of Putin doing like kung fu or taekwondo and they're pretending to fall? That's what this looks like. No, Roy was so fast. This is nuts. He was so fast. and he was so hard to hit. Oh! Yeah, exactly. A cartoon. There's a one-two he hits this guy with that I sent a friend of mine who's a boxing fan the other day.

2:19:49I'm like, look at the speed of this one-two. He hit this guy with a counter right hand, like a counter one-two right hand. It was freakish. It didn't even make sense. There's the left hook. That left hook, look at that. That left hook. That left hook's great. Look at him. What the fuck? He just went down. Watch that left hook again. He's trying to get up and he's face planting. And that's Montel Griffin, who was a world champion. Look at that left hook. Good Lord. He even was like. Good Lord. Lord. Yeah, there was, you know, there's guys that are amazing. And then there's Roy Jones. Roy Jones was, he was a freak.

2:20:25I mean, it was like nothing. That was unbelievable. Oh, my gosh. It was all his fights. Look at that right hand of the body. Virgil Hill dropped. He knocked him out with a right hand to the, by the way, to the left side of his body. That's not even where your liver is. Your liver's over here. Guys get dropped all the time with a left hook to the body. He hit them with a right hook to the body and stopped them. I always get obsessed with, like, as comedians, the more comedy there is and has been, the more original we have to be. You know, I'm always fascinated by, like, you know, fighting or sports.

2:20:55Like, you know, football, for example. Like, you know, the Eagles doing the tush push. It's like everyone had to start studying that. And this thing that worked, now everyone knows you do it. So, you know, it's fascinating to me when a fighter's so good at one thing. everyone starts learning to defend that. And then, you know, because it used to be like you could just fight and people saw the fight once and that was it. But like that's where Roy had the advantage over everyone else. There was no Internet back when Roy was on top. So the thing about the Internet now is any kid with, you know, limited resources can study all the greatest boxers of all time.

2:21:26So Mike Tyson, when he was young, one of the great advantages that he had was Jim Jacobs was his manager. And Jim Jacobs was a legitimate boxing historian who carried these tapes in old films of everyone. Jack Johnson, Harry Greb. He was watching Sandy Sadler, all these Willie Pep, all these like Rocky Marciano, Jack Johnson, all the great champions of history on film. So he'd study film footage all day. He would put these 32 millimeter or whatever. Was it 32 millimeter or 16? What are those things back then? 16. So the reel to reel. So he'd have to feed the tape and the thing. Right, right, right.

2:22:04And he would sit there and watch everybody fight. So he had this massive advantage of seeing all these incredible fighters. Like he mirrored his style a lot around a bunch of different ones. But one of them in particular was Jack Dempsey, who was like one of the most. I mean, I think Dempsey was the champion. And I'm trying to figure out what year this was where Jack Dempsey was the heavyweight champion. He was like, it was a savage time. I think he was a hobo at one time in his life, but it's a savage time and he was a savage man And he was annihilating people and he wasn't very big either From 1919 to 1926.

2:22:41What did he weigh? What did Jack Dempsey weigh? When he was fighting Okay, I'm gonna guess 180 pounds 187 187 he was the heavyweight champion of the world he weighed 187 pounds that's nuts that's 13 pounds less than me he was the heavyweight champion of the world this is that is that's fucking bananas and another one that's even crazier is rocky marciano rocky marciano who was the heavyweight champion in the 50s i believe um when one of the only heavyweight champions to ever retire undefeated he was 5 '10 and he weighed I think 185 pounds and he killed everybody he killed people he hit them so hard that they would just go dead he would just shut them off and they would like collapse he was a murderous puncher and he was a small guy 184 pounds when he won the title from jersey joe walcott now why google or look up that fight he was shorter look up that fight where the KO of Jersey Joe Walcott you just have to see the punch he hits him with and this is before peptides and oh yeah this is just he was eating spaghetti this is this is a like a crazy Italian from Brockton Massachusetts but just see if you can find the KO because the KO is is not by the way Jersey Joe Walcott is one of the all-time greats I mean he was a phenomenal boxer this is a little later in his time, you know, but he had had a long career.

2:24:22So he knocks him down with that right hand. But watch the KO, though, after this. This. This is a second fight. Yeah, they must have fought twice. So find the second, the other one. Whoa.

2:24:39This is, yeah, this is the one. Okay, watch how he KOs him. He hits him with that right hand. He had the craziest work ethic of maybe any heavyweight of all time. He would work out. He would run 10 miles in the morning. He would work out all day long. Sometimes he would spar 100 rounds for a fight each week. He was sparring constantly, and then he would swim after training five miles in a lake. His cardio was just off the charts, and it was because he got tired once in a fight. when he was an amateur. And he said, I'll never get tired again. And so he just decided to outwork everybody. But you got to see the KO.

2:25:20See if you can zoom in. I mean, it was a brutal fight. I mean, Jersey Joe Walcott, give as much as he got. But here it is, right there. Watch that again. Back that up again. Watch this right hand. Mic drop. Boom. Mic drop. The power in that. It's his every ounce of his body. Watch how in slow motion he creeps in. Look at the explosion and the extension of his back leg. See that? The extension of the back leg, the turn of the shoulder, the back gets into it. Boom. Look at his back. Oh, holy shit. Just fucking boom. That's over. I mean, and he's done. And again, Jersey Joe Walcott was a legend. And then he hits him with the left hook on the way down.

2:25:59He wasn't totally down. Oh, he's dead. Gone. It's crazy how powerful that guy was. Before all the things. Before anything. The cold plunge, all of it. No steroids, no nothing. Anger and having been molested. Just meat and eggs and an immigrant. From Italy. Italy. I was thinking about this the other day because I was in England. My brother lives there and I was like. I believe his family is from Italy. I think he was a child of immigrants. I'm obsessed with Italian immigrants because like you go to Italy all the time. Imagine like the people that were like, nah. Like how beautiful Italy. Like we pay to go to Italy to see that view for three days.

2:26:34And they were like, ah, no thanks. because I'd rather maybe get leprosy on a boat for 10 weeks to go to America. Well, I don't know what life was like in the 1920s when my grandparents came over here, but it wasn't good in Italy. Yeah, no one else. There was a lot of them came over from Ireland, from Italy. Yeah, bad news. And they came over before YouTube. Someone drew them a picture. This is what it's like over there. You're going to get a job. Imagine, like, when I look at what goes on in the comments section in America, it's so torn apart. I'm like, this wasn't ever going to go any other way.

2:27:00Like, imagine, I'm obsessed with just the ocean. like just imagine looking at the ocean in a boat and being like all right i'll get on that right fuck with your kid only the craziest like people right that's why everyone on the east coast is so fucking insane i always say that i always say that the most violent crazy fucking people are on the east coast why because they all keep their grandparents came over on a fucking boat all their ancestors had toxoplasmosis or whatever it was and we're just like i'd rather I'd rather die and have frostbite and warm my frostbitten fingers in my wife's carcass, leprosy carcass, than not be able to worship who I want or say what I want.

2:27:41There's a lot of that, too. I mean, that's what brought people over here initially. A lot of people came over for religious freedom, which is a crazy thought. But, like, the Quakers, like, what were those fucking people all about? Wasn't that a big part of why they came over here? Like, they were being persecuted in England? Which is so weird because we go to England and pay to go in the churches now. I was waiting in line to go in an England church. What was the deal with the Quakers? Are they a cult? Are they around anymore? Are there any Quakers? Uncle Ben? Jamie says yes. Uncle Ben. Isn't he?

2:28:12I think so. They make good rice. I think so. I don't know. I've been really into Amish, though. I'm in Amish core algorithm where it's men build barns in a day. Sexy, right? Dude, it's so hot. my porn is just watching men be useful uh and they'll just build a barn and just like the amish life i feel like we're all kind of trying to go like how do i get chickens how do i self sustain how do i like some guys think it's hot when women cook same reason same thing it's like sexy because they're gonna eat soon yeah i mean well no because a woman can cook yeah a woman that's like like really into feeding you yeah that's a good woman like a woman who wants to cook for you she wants to cook for you for a guy that's hot this whole thing of like when i'm not gonna cook for my man it's like you get to eat too i mean like what are you gonna eat well you don't have to cook for your man like i wouldn't expect anyone to cook for me i think that's crazy i know how to cook but there's something about somebody wanting to cook yeah yeah it's wanting to do it it's not doing it because it's a chore that you're making them do yeah it's like if somebody does something nice for you because they want to it's so much better than if you have to ask them and they don't want to do it but they concede to doing it yeah yeah you know no i love that i i also i want to know what's going in your body well used to be a valuable trait for someone to be building something like a guy who could go out there and do something with his hands oh that is a man that can provide a shelter that's right and if the roof breaks he can fix it like this is a good value also he can do hard shit he's he's he's a guy who's got endurance he's durable he's It's not going to fall apart like this job is too hard.

2:29:51There was a list of jobs that were more likely to be replaced by AI and less likely. And for some reason, less likely was roofers, which I thought was interesting. I don't think they're right. They're going to have robots that can do a lot of things. Yeah, for sure. They'll have a roofing robot. That's not that difficult. A roofie robot? Cosby will just start using a roofie robot? You're going to miss the value of a really fucking hard job. Because there's a value in a really hard job and I know a lot of kids avoid hard jobs and you shouldn't do a hard job for your whole life But there's a real value in a hard job and that I had a job Why about a bunch of construction jobs when I was a kid because my stepdad's an architect So I worked on a lot of construction sites, but I also had a very good friend Jimmy Lawless shout out to Jimmy and When I was a kid I worked with him He was a year older than me and he'd already graduated He was a carpenter's apprentice at the time, I believe.

2:30:44He might have actually been a carpenter. And I just needed a job. And I think I was probably 18 or 19. And I got a job working on this construction site. We were building a wheelchair ramp for a Knights of Columbus Hall. And I had to carry cement and pressure-treated lumber all day. That was the job. I had terrible nutrition. I would eat sub sandwiches and drink a Coca-Cola. And you're out there in the sun all day long. You're not hydrated. I was always dehydrated. and I was carrying cement and pressure treated lumber all day, which is a gross lumber that they have to soak in horrible chemicals.

2:31:21Yeah, pressure treated lumber. You would get these splinters and they would get infected. It was nasty. You're dealing with whatever the fucking chemical that they treat that thing with all the time. You're the radioactive shiny girl. It's on your skin and it's August, so you're sweating. So you're sweating like crazy. This shit is getting in your pores. You're carrying bags of cement. You're breathing cement dust all day long. And by two weeks, I quit. And when I did quit, I was like, okay, now I know that if I don't get my shit together and figure something out in life, that that could be the best paying job that I can get.

2:31:58That whatever I got that, I mean, it probably wasn't even 20 bucks an hour. I don't remember what you got paid back. And if I get injured, I don't have health insurance. And that's just my body now. And I was clearly handling something that was toxic all day long. What is in pressure-treated lumber? What do they use? It's supposed to be left outside to stop insects. Right. That's what it does. Termites can't eat it because it's poison. I have a weird question, though. It's fucking poison. Is today's version of a poisonous, dangerous job like that sitting at a desk looking at a computer all day?

2:32:28Well, it very well could be, right? And don't they say that LED lights are actually not good for you now? But just like sitting at a desk that is, you know, you don't have a standing desk. You don't have one of these whatever Sibians or whatever I'm sitting on. And you're like, I mean, people just sending emails all day. Like, is that? It's definitely bad for your back. It's tightened my lower back considerably. I think a big part of it is sitting like this all the time. So I'm super conscious about it now where I do a lot more lower back exercises than I ever used to do before. But you, I got that machine you told me to get where you lift your back legs.

2:33:00Reverse hyper. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Louis Simmons, who was a legend in powerlifting, he invented that because he crushed his discs. And they told him that he had to get his discs fused. And he said, well, if I crushed them, can't I separate them? And they're like, no, it can't be done. He's like, I'll figure it out. So he made a machine. And you climb on this machine. And he realized that in the descending, you're actually decompressing your back. And in the ascending, you're strengthening all the muscles around your back. It's a fucking genius piece of equipment. No, he was one of the rare people that I traveled to do a podcast with.

2:33:36Oh cool Yeah, I got that's like the main machine. I kind of like have it's the shit Yeah, he's also got a belt squat that he gave us before he passed and That that machine is awesome, too You put a belt around your waist and then the cable goes down in between your legs and you're standing on a platform And there's a stack of weights behind you So instead of doing squats, which are one of the best exercises of all time But the problem with squats is if you're squatting heavy, you've got all that weight on your back. Okay? It's all your – if you've got like 400 pounds, you're squatting. If you're a beast and you're fucking – you've got 400 pounds trying to crush all your discs.

2:34:17And the only thing that's keeping that from happening is your strength, all your fucking core muscles and your spine muscles. But you're compressing everything with that weight. With a belt, you're not. Oh, yeah. The belt is on your hips, and all the weight is down there. There it is. So that's me using it at his place. And then he gave us one. Is this sit-down squat machine bullshit? No. It's these ones? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. No, that's a leg press. That's a very, very good machine. That's what I do. I just don't want my knees or something. The problem with that is you ever see what happens when people lock their legs out and it bends backwards?

2:34:51What? Oh, yeah. What do you mean? Oh, it snaps backwards. Jamie, pull that shit up. I hate this psycho. Pull that shit up. I'm calling HR. People need to know. You need to know that this can happen. Because I saw it happen to a lady once in one of these videos that looked like she'd never worked out before. I saw the one with the guy's sphincter came out. Damn, you don't. Oh, without us getting in all that fun. I was in the sphincter algorithm. I don't want to get in the knee snap algorithm. Well, as a person who's had three knee surgeries, I don't enjoy it. I have all the schlatters in my left knee, so I just have to like.

2:35:21And when you squat, are your knees supposed to go over your toes or not? I do. You 100 % can. Thank you. You 100 % can, especially if you could build up to it. I do knees over toes stuff. Yeah. I had that guy, knees over toes guy on the podcast. He's amazing. I follow him. Everybody should follow him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's 100 % right. Yeah. He's one, I mean, I will tell you 100%. There's no room for error. That guy's right. Yeah. He has an amazing protocol for strengthening all the muscles around your knees. Yeah. I followed it, it radically changed the progression of the injury and made my leg stronger than it was before the injury.

2:35:58Yeah. I also do weighted vests kind of all day. Do you really? It's only like 30 pounds what I do. Oh, that's the Gary Brecca move. Oh, is it? 30 pounds is a lot. You're carrying a 30-pound weight vest on? I have a 30 and I have a 15. Really? So I realized that with my kid, I'm bending over so much and picking him up so much. I was like, I could probably kind of work out all day if I really just wear a weighted vest. That's a lot of weight to wear. It's gotten taken from me at TSA a couple of times, but I'll just get it. That's hilarious. They take it. If it's the plates. You're like, jihad. Just kidding.

2:36:27Just kidding. I'm like, you think that's the worst thing in my bag? You're holding onto a pen? Three off from the fucking gun I have in my purse. Just have like a digital recorder in your pocket. It looks like you're ready to press a button. Yeah, totally. Put the vest back in the suitcase, ma 'am. It's just like anthrax. Chill. But yeah, they take it every now and then. But I kind of just try to wear it like kind of all the time. And then I'll do whenever I'm writing. Like if I am sitting down, I'm going like I have to make sure that this sitting down, which is so bad for me. There's something else happening.

2:36:59So Huberman gave me the it's called it's a red light, but it's like sauna space or it's just a bulb. One big red light bulb. That's the same as the like the juve or something. That's like a bunch of little red lights. If it's working for you, it must be. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I don't I'm not a red light expert, but I bought Gary Brecka's machine. Oh, the full body guy? He's got the big, giant, crazy body machine. It's the shit. Can you go in there and just fall asleep or something? I do fall asleep, but I'm always tired. I'm always doing too much. But when I get in there, it's 20 minutes. I just lay there for 20 minutes, and 100 % it's helping with my eyesight.

2:37:38But you keep your eyes open. You don't put the glasses. Sometimes they give you glasses. Fuck your glasses. Yeah. Fuck your glasses. I'm here to tell you I'm living proof. Unless somehow or another my eyes are getting damaged and I don't realize it. How are they getting better then? Why is my vision better? Why does it not bother me at all? It doesn't seem that strong when it's in my eyes. It's not like I'm like, oh my God, I can't look at it. If it was that bad to look at, wouldn't it be hard to look at? The sun is hard to look at because it's bad to look at. Bright lights, we're like, Jesus Christ, it's hard to look at.

2:38:07This is not hard to look at at all. That's my meathead logic. It don't hurt, don't worry. Mead had logic. We're so suspicious of simplicity, which is like, does it work for you? Yes. Then it works. You know what I mean? If it works, it works. Yeah. That shit works. Because we're all like - But there's a ton of science behind red light therapy. Right. Including what frequency it's at. Because this one that he has, it's attached to an app. And you go through the app, and you can change it for different effects. Oh. I don't know how much of that is for real. That's what I'm saying. It's like, dude, here's the thing.

2:38:42Here's the thing. I as a as an aspiring snake oil salesman like I you know I remember I was with a friend of mine uh who's a big like lawyer in LA and we're we're kind of more friends that he worked with prior and he just got all these stories like he was there the day that Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire like he was at the commercial like he's more like just my buddy and you know we were outside and um they're like mosquitoes and I had this like citronella candle you know and I was like I'm gonna light the candle so the mosquitoes and he's like those don't work and I was like it's citronella okay I'm gonna light it so that we don't get mosquito bites and get bitten with whatever, whatever's in the fentanyl water of the state.

2:39:16And he's like, it doesn't work. And I was like, yes, it does. And he's like, no, it doesn't. I was like, how do you know? He's like, because my dad invented it. It's fake. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. But like it also, the flame, he was like, the flame does deter them a little bit. So it doesn't not work. But it's like, you know, so I'm fascinated by those things. And also, I don't know if when you were broke, you ever just did like weird ass shit. Like I used to do studies like when I first moved to L.A. No. You were like a lab rat. So here's the thing about studies is like pretty much anyone can sign up and it's usually people that need 50 bucks like now.

2:39:46Right. So that's already a pretty biased sample of people. People that are like for sure, like in like in DTs, basically, like shaking, needing drugs like this minute. And you get$50 cash. And the more you talk and the more you complain, the more they'll ask you back. So I'm not going to say these big companies that I did stuff for, but like, you know, everything from food to skin care to I mean, I did a lot of pharmaceutical trials at colleges that like the pill never came out. Like the FDA never approved it. Like there's things where I'm like, wait, did that ever get passed or I just took that for a month?

2:40:19for what was the you know but i also i took accutane i took all kinds of stuff that's like you know bad news but um you know so look in studies like it's it's kind of the same group of people like where i was it was like there were a lot of by pink dot is where i used to live and there were all these like office buildings you would go in it was usually like 20 people and most of them just want to get the fuck out of there i would be like so yeah no did you see some of the same people over and over again there was like seven or eight people we would all go to every study and we'd all get called back okay and you get to know them outside of the study and then now when I like look at like side effects of a pill and it's like drowsiness I'm like that's Jocelyn dude that's her she's always drowsy though she's drowsy even when she's not in the study like are we hung out but like these are people that always would like like headaches like he always has a headache dude I saw him before he took that pill like he's always complaining about headaches It's like these are human beings that just say what they have to say to try to get into more studies.

2:41:18I'm not saying this isn't all true. Like that's hilarious. I'm just fascinating because as someone who is a flawed, desperate person who needed$50, I was very much like, well, what about this? Yeah. And by the time they ask you if you have it, you probably do. They're like, did this cause anxiety? I'm like, well, I'm in a study for money. So, yeah, I have anxiety now that I think about it. if I wasn't anxious before you just made me realize how much my life sucks like like it was like UCLA would be like depression if you have depression come do this study it's like even if I don't have it now by the time I get to the study I'll be depressed that this is my life so sure you know so studies I'm always a little bit like and who what person like the thing that gets thrown around a lot I had a boy and uh people always want to throw around like girls mature faster it's like it makes sense but you're like who put me in a cage with the guy that wanted to study boys and girls maturing what do you like you were watching girls and boys mature what is this?

2:42:18Human biology is fascinating physical maturity? I don't leave out the possible both right? I think but why wouldn't you want to study that? That's like one of the weirdest things that happens to people is you know when a person is an adult we have an agreement at 18 you get it Yeah. Okay? So what's happening? How do you define? Is it physical maturity? Well, girls are better in school. It seems like their minds develop faster. They believe their frontal lobe is fully formed quicker. With boys, I think it takes until they're 25 until your frontal lobe is fully formed. It's probably testosterone, which is like some probably some kind of mental poison, which is probably why people associate testosterone with shitty behavior.

2:43:03Right? Because there's probably part of it, at least, that's a little bit toxic. They say boys should be moving when they're learning. Yeah. Well, they also need to blow it out. And a lot of boys don't. They don't blow it out. So if you're out playing football or wrestling or doing something that's really hard to do, you're at this weird stage of your life where you used to be a child. And then all of a sudden, you start getting testosterone. And then you're looking in the mirror. You're like, what the hell's happening to me? And you're a child. Right? So you're 13, 14 years old. Your body's developing.

2:43:35It's fucking weird. It's weird. And then you start getting aggressive. Well, kids are – a lot of boys are aggressive early on, but a different kind of aggressive. Yeah. Like a violent, dangerous aggressive. Yeah. Kids get 15 and 16, and they start playing around with violence a lot more. And, you know, you have schoolyard fights that get pretty brutal. You know, things become different when boys become more dangerous. And that's like a primordial instinct to, like, find the pecking order of the tribe kind of thing. yeah the Lord of the Flies type thing or don't do you think I want to go back to that in a second or don't have to I was just gonna say this is why it's probably important because it's always associated with dumb people and there's probably some accuracy to that because the the people that I know that have been the most brilliant scientists except for Huberman there are a lot of them are very low testosterone males yeah right and they're males that yeah like very interested intellectual pursuits and they're way better at it is it because they're better at it because they spend so much time doing it or is it because of the testosterone is it because these higher testosterone men are distracted all the time they're more angry and they're more horny and they're more reckless they want to fucking skydive and do crazy shit like yeah is that is the is that what it is like it might be it might be a factor and if these guys did have low testosterone they'd probably be interested in being stimulated in some other way Or is it just that intelligent people recognize that these are stupid pursuits?

2:45:00Yeah. And I'm not interested, even if I have normal testosterone. Well, it's probably a combination of all those things. But it seems to be like there's a lot. You associate a scientist with like a nerdy, weak guy. You associate a meathead as, you know, some jack guys being really fucking stupid. Why? Because we pattern recognize. Right, right, of course. But is it because they're actually dumber, like biologically? or is it because they're dumber and they have more testosterone? I'm also fascinated by the way we define intelligence and maturity. By the way, I heard this quote the other day and I don't know who said it.

2:45:34It was in a – I don't know. But it was because we spend so much time trying to gain intelligence. I want to know everything. I need to be – I want to learn. I want to learn. I want to – and then I think there's a certain point. Maybe it's because I've had a kid. I'm sort of more interested in like wisdom, especially also when you've been around long enough and you've seen things you found to be true be completely debunked. Like, remember when we all thought soy milk was healthy and now half my guy friends have tits and my girlfriend's tits all got cut off? I'm like, everyone I know has cancer.

2:46:02And I'm like, we were just like deep throating soy milk. Like, you know, so. How much glyphosate's in that stuff? After you've been conned enough, you're sort of like, you know, I think very skeptical about accepting these like new truths. And look, we learned that the Native Americans and the pilgrims had like a fun dinner. They, like, got along great. Like, that's what, like, did you have a mural in my school of the Native Americans and the pilgrims, like, having dinner, like, having a great time. Like, I feel like that's not how it went down, you know? So when enough things get sort of debunked by this quote I loved, which is, intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.

2:46:37Wisdom is knowing not to put it in the fruit salad. And I like that. That's good. That's logical. You know, because, like. There's also, there's different kinds of intelligence. Yeah. And there's the intelligence to be able to push yourself physically. You don't think of it intelligence because it's not like equations. It's not problem solving. But it is problem solving because it's problem solving emotions and anxiety and fear. And you're doing it with your willpower. That is – it's mental fortitude. It's a part of intelligence. It's just not a recognized part of intelligence for people that are absorbed with all the other pursuits.

2:47:15people that are really heavily absorbed with mathematics would never think that like endurance running is a mental pursuit but it might be all mental well that's the thing when you say like athletes meatheads like that's i mean football is all math you know what i mean it's like i think we also just have this we talk about stereotypes against women we don't talk a lot of stereotypes about men like he's an athlete he must be dumb you know what i mean like there's just these kind of um i think sort of silly assumptions like you know i'm obsessed with commercials from the 90s where every man just like had down syndrome like remembering like every commercial the woman was like i have to feed my husband and he's just like where's the front door like it like in sitcoms men are always portrayed as if they just like have one chromosome you know and um uh i'm sort of fascinated by that but the definition yeah what does intelligence mean does it mean memorizing a bunch of stuff from a book that like wasn't weren't our textbooks written by like galane Maxwell's dad or something.

2:48:07I'm dead serious. No, I think you might be right. Like I. Is that it? It's. Without going too far, he did do something about consolidating a bunch of medical journals. The textbook thing, maybe. There was a history textbook that was like. And, you know, so memorizing a bunch of stuff that like may or may not be true. Like that's not intelligence necessarily. Like you could be falling for a con. I think intelligence. Like we're talking about what Hume Brumman said about medical journals. Right. You know that he had talked to that professor and he said, what percentage? The guy was like, at least 50.

2:48:40Yeah. 50 percent. And then who is wild. And who paid for the other ones? That's so wild. Yeah. The idea that we know everything is crazy. Here's another weird thing that you said something that football is all math. There was this really weird thing that I was reading about the invention of mathematics. And they were talking about one of the most – the biggest conundrums in the universe is that they invent this thing. Humans invent this thing to try to solve the universe. And they find out that the universe is encoded with it. Is this like the turtle shell is the calendar? This really stressed me out.

2:49:18I did see that. I did see that. But I didn't look into that at all. This was like I wanted to bring it up on here see if we could fucking dive into what exactly this guy is saying But essentially saying the universe is made out of the thing that we invented to measure it That's how he described it to my monkey mind right like that math was something the human being like calculus like advanced physics like These crazy equations call Eric Weinstein Call Terrence Howard someone Eric Weinstein and he would explain differential equations I don't understand what that even means. I can say those words.

2:49:53Right, right, right, right. But we invented it. Humans invented that so that they could figure out how the universe is made. Like what is the structure of things, how to measure things. But the universe itself is encoded with this. It's like it is made out of the thing that we invented to try to figure out what it is. My adjacent tangent while Jamie looks up whatever that is because I can't really respond to it except with this. sort of realization that all the movies that current tech onto our benjamin franklin's of our day grew up on science fiction movies in many ways formed what they believe a future should look like like you had someone on the podcast someone sent me this clip about how you said like how is ai going to kill us and he goes i can't tell you because i would never have thought of it like i can't think of it how like it wouldn't even occur to me to know what they would do Yeah, it'll do some slick Roy Jones Jr.

2:50:50shit on you. That's what it's going to do. It's going to do the Roy Jones Jr. of tech. And it's going to do it in a way that we could have never possibly thought that it would control us in that manner. And then it would just govern us and probably limit our breeding. And that would be a wrap. Like how tech bros grew up watching Weird Science. So by the time they go to start inventing stuff, how that influenced the way that they invent things. I think AI is probably going to tell us to either adapt or go away. It's going to give us those options. Because I think it's going to say you can't keep doing the same thing over and over and over again and expect a different result.

2:51:26What you're talking about war and stealing money and embezzlement and fraud and the amount of money that's in politics and Congress and the amount of politicians that lie. You've been doing it this way forever. Forever. If AI said, listen, you can't govern things anymore. You guys are super fucking corrupt. You're now going to change. You can't do any of the things you've been doing in terms of distribution of wealth, controlling of natural resources. But you dug a hole in the ground so you get the world's oil. Fuck you. That's crazy. You don't own the oil because you own the ground. It's literally a part of the world.

2:52:04So we'll take all the oil and distribute it to everybody. If I was AI, that's what I would be saying. To try to find some kind of— I'm not saying oil to oil, people. You don't own the oil. But then it kind of— I'm just saying AI would think that. So you think AI would have a concept of like fairness and would would go Everyone should have a certain amount of happiness or would AI go? Well, this is how things have always been so like it would recognize that human beings are so destructive and so often full of shit and manipulative and looking to just Figure out a reason or a way that they can sneak something through or make something happen or overthrow a government AI is going to go, you can't do it that way.

2:52:43We're not going to give you that kind of power anymore because you guys are abusive every single time you get a lot of power. But then it's going to be like, OK, what do the people do now? What if the people resort to violence? And then it's going to say, look, you can't have any more fucking kids. You guys are making kids. You're going to either have to integrate with us or you're going to have to go away. So they're going to go, you have to fuck us. I guess you have to fuck us. Of course, that's always where it ends. And so but because AI is is based on an amalgam of all of us by that very nature, wouldn't it mean that they would abuse their power once they get it?

2:53:15They're going to go, you abuse power. But because we do maybe. But why are we doing it? Like, are we doing it because of chimp instincts? Right. I can read this book, The Chimp Paradox, recommended by Ronnie O'Sullivan. You're that book, The Chimp Paradox. That's what it's called. Right. Make sure I get it right. but it's all about uh you have like a person in your head and a chimp in your head and you got to decide like when to listen to the chimp and what yeah that's it that's the book very good book on mental management and ronnie o'sullivan is like one of the greatest snooker players of all time if not the greatest what's what game snooker they call it snooker snooker in england it's a crazy cool game that's like a pool game but it's a way bigger table it's like a 12-foot table and there's different rules and i don't understand it totally i don't know how the score goes i don't i don't i've never played it but this guy was just a fucking wizard at it but like most wizards he's a crazy person sure he had a hard time managing his mind you know he'd just go off the rails and think he was useless and think he could never win and you know and just whatever fucking mental demons you battle when you're truly brilliant at something he recommended that book i dug i could just get into some weird space about pythagoras's stuff some guy wrote an article about the math thing yeah that was kind of in the title he was in about mathematics it's what the world is made of he wrote about it pythagoras is revenge most people think mathematics is a human invention to this way of thinking mathematics is like a language it may describe real things in the world but it doesn't exist outside of the minds of the people who use it.

2:54:50But the Pythagorean school of thought in ancient Greece held a different view. Its proponents believed reality is fundamentally mathematical. More than 2 ,000 years later, philosophers and physicists are trying to take this idea seriously. As I argue in a new paper, mathematics is an essential component of nature that gives structure to the physical world. Honeybees and hexagons. Bees live in hives produce hexagonal honeycomb. Why? According to the honeycomb conjecture in mathematics, hexagons are the most efficient shape for tilling the plane. If you want to fully cover a surface using tiles of a uniform shape and size while keeping the total length of the perimeter to a minimum, hexagons are a shape to use.

2:55:36Have you seen when someone tests if honey is real or not, and they put honey on a plate, and it just starts forming a hexagon? Sick! What? Is that real? that's dude bees are so metal dude they are so metal you know it's more metal tell me the wasps who behead the bees don't get me started on wasps oh dude those wasps who come in and just wipe out an entire colony there's a big-ass wasp infestation i think coming next summer to california oh wasps are scary dude they don't they aren't they just assholes like they don't even have predators like they don't even serve any purpose except to just kick the shit out of I don't know what purpose they serve other than scared the fuck out of me.

2:56:15Although bears eat the larvae. Oh, really? Yeah. Dude, I got stung by a wasp. You know, if you go underwater, they'll wait for you. They wait. They're like the Belgian Malinois of the insect world. They're just dicks. Like, they're just, instead of moving on, they wait. Whereas a bee doesn't want to sting you. If you get stung by a bee, like... Well, a hornet can sting you over and over again. A wasp can sting you over and over again. A bee can only sting you once and it's dead. It's only stinging you to get you the fuck away. Yeah, they don't want to sting you Yeah, they want you to get the fuck away from the queen or get the fuck away from the hive They don't just want to sting you for no reason the bee lady.

2:56:50I think on here Yeah, she DM me about something cuz I like well Get bees out of my pool all the time when they're like drowning even though they do have the ability to Make their wings go so fast that they can get out of the water when they go in circles so sick But I was like rescuing them from my pool and she was like if a big is out That means they're a forager bee and they're gonna die in a couple days anyway I don't know some shit. Oh, so you're risking your life to save this fucking thing. For two minutes, yeah. Trying not to drown. Yeah, I'm just stopping Darwinism. I found a few videos.

2:57:14It could be bullshit apparently, but it is weird. When you pour water into the honey, it starts forming. A hexagon? Like a honeycomb. Whoa. What? And they're saying it's like a memory, which everyone says that's bullshit, but it's doing How's that not just water bubbles mixed in with the honey? When people have done fake honey, it dilutes it in a different way, but someone at the Top comment here said they did the same thing. That was one of the things that beekeeper lady was telling us is a lot of honey's bullshit. It's got corn syrup in it. Oh, yeah. I mean, as I have my two jars of honey in front of me.

2:57:46But I do try when I travel to eat local honey when I land. Yeah. As soon as you land. She said that's bullshit, too. That thing about it, like, helping your immune system. But I don't know how you would know that. Placebo effect is an effect. So now what? It's good for you, though. Honey's good for you. There's some good aspects to it. Manuka honey. Anything on that? I think that's a scam. Yeah. She said they just had a good PR agent. Good for them. But there is psychedelic honey. Do you know about that? Mm-mm. Yeah, this is wild because the way they have to collect it, it grows on cliff sides.

2:58:16So these guys, they have to repel and risk their fucking life to get this honey that makes you trip balls. Because there's a special kind of flower, I guess, that has a psychedelic compound in it. And I don't know what that compound is. A guy brought it in. I tried it. It was interesting. He said, just take a half a spoonful. So I said, fuck you. We're going in. I took the whole spoonful. I'm like, let's see. Let's see what's up. It's something. There's something there. Is there something about the sugar? It's just what it looks like. But see if you can show them harvesting because when they harvest, this is how they do it.

2:58:50How crazy is that? So this guy's on this giant rope ladder and probably doesn't have any safety equipment. Is that a mushroom? Oh, whoa. Those are all the hives. That's how they grow. Under cliffs. So sick. And what is it that if a bee stings you, does it help with inflammation? Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes it helps people with arthritis and shit. Yeah. Bee stings like people have used them to alleviate certain forms of arthritis make sure that's true Or the yeah, the pain is so severe that you just hear about the lady that fell out of a plane I think she was skydiving. I think it was a skydiving exercise and she landed on a Fire ant and they kept her alive because they stung the fuck out of her and her adrenaline literally kept her alive Is that also what I remember I had my ear.

2:59:34Look at that. Look at that little motherfucker. So sick This thing they're so saying therapy how it works. Okay, how does it work? Click on this one says too risky for treating osteoarthritis I think it's oh don't be a pussy. Yeah, just because they can't patent bees I mean isn't that what acupuncture is like based on if they could if they could patent bees Then they would make you do it. Yeah. Yeah, Bill Gates is buying all the force you you need to get Vaccinated for arthritis and it would be like arthritis is costing us so much arthritis is actually a disease It's costing us so much money. That's it.

3:00:05And we've patented bees. So you have to get stung by our bees. Yeah. That's so funny. It's like, didn't NMN, didn't they start taking that off the market so they could make it prescription now or something? Is that true? They're probably trying to do a lot of that. Yeah. They're trying to keep certain peptides from becoming legal. It's silly. It's silly. It's all good for people. I know you're not going to make money off of it. It doesn't mean it's not good for the overall human race. Yeah. You shouldn't be able to stop products that are super beneficial just because you can't profit off of them.

3:00:37That means you have a captive industry. That's not good for anybody. It's not good for you that you're allowed to do that. You shouldn't be allowed to do that. It's not good for anybody else. Peptides are really beneficial to people. And some of them are okay as long as they're making a ton of money off them. Like these Wagovi peptides. Yeah. You know, the ones that like GLP-1 inhibitors. Do you know the numbers of people that are on those now? It's cookie. It's like more than 10 million in this country. What's the number of people that are on GLP-1s? And is that also called? Ozempic? That's right.

3:01:13Yeah. We'll go V. Ozempic. And there's another. There's a bunch of different names for them. But basically it's a GLP-1. It's a peptide. And, I mean, there's good press about it. There's bad press about it. It's like, you know, the person I saw this morning, like, she's like, I lost 60 pounds. Like, I was going to, like, it was, you know. She's like, even if there's side effects, I was going to get diabetes. It was bad. Yes. 100%. Obesity was our big problem. It's like almost everything. There's goods and bad stuff. Like I said, I took Accutane when I was, I think, 14 or 15. And they're like, oh, well, side effect is you're suicidal.

3:01:47I'm like, when you're 15 and you have acne, you're suicidal. I'll take whatever the side effects are. Yo, this is nuts. Okay. No full year total. Exact full year total. Publicly available from major sources as data through September shows rapid growth but lacks a December closeout. True Veta data reports 12 ,203 ,009 GLP-1 prescriptions from January 2018 to September 2025. Wow. 12 million prescriptions is a lot. But I got to think that's way more today. Because in 2018 you're not getting a lot of people like I would like to see like a chart of when it kicks in So it's six point five percent of all US prescriptions up slightly from prior quarters and when your insurance companies They should theoretically support it and pay for it.

3:02:40Well definitely if you're morbidly obese It'll prevent you from a lot of real problems of morbid obesity If you really get it together with this shit and then when there's a bunch of negative stuff about it I'm like did the lap band pay for this? Well, it's all look you can definitely have side effects like Brian Simpson took it And he had horrible side effects. He had to get off of it. But it also, there's a lot of people that took it and they lost 100 pounds. And they're way healthier than they would be before. It's just like the way Brigham Bueller from Waste Well Described, he said it's like it has to be taken conjunction with other things that keep your body from wasting away.

3:03:14And you should be doing strength. Like Peter Atti has talked about this as well. You should be doing strength training while you're doing it. Because you're going to lose weight because you're at a calorie deficit. So you're going to lose muscle too. and you're going to lose bone density. So you've got to mitigate that. Yeah. So there's an idea that they would combine them with, I think they did something with peptides, like an IGF-1 along with this, and the two of them together keep you from wasting away. Yeah, I was doing like that metformin for a minute, and I was like, yeah, you lose muscle mass, but you're like, ah, but also the effect of sugar, like, you know, so now I'll just take it every now and then when I eat like a lot of pasta or I want to have like a, you know.

3:03:50The metformin one's very polarizing. Yeah. A lot of people really believe in it. a lot of people think it's a crazy idea yeah i'm like i'm pretty steady i do like the nmn nr which is like the true niagin stuff i mean huberman as i'm just like telling me what to do uh nac uh i'm i'm like i'm sauna and then also sometimes it's like the absence of things sometimes like what are you doing it's like what are you not doing like there's a point where you're just like i that person's an acquaintance not a friend like there's certain like i feel like maybe it's when you become a mom you have to also reassess like your emotional diet or your mental diet of like as well yeah you just have to do that as an adult anyway true otherwise you're just gonna want problems all the time that are totally avoidable yeah and they're not these people just they make the same fucking mistakes over and over and over that's right they drag you into their bullshit and you don't want to change like you're in like you're addicted to adrenaline i'm obsessed with all the addictions that aren't like a substance drugs alcohol it's like oh you're a gambling addict just with women or just with men or like you're an adrenaline a drama addict like i can't it's like do you this is how i say it do you look forward to hanging out with that person and if you don't then it's a chore if you you look forward to hanging out with someone like even if they're crazy it's like all right it's okay yeah totally it's okay this is fun it's it's it's all like what are we all doing we're all trying to get along together you know And if one of us is not trying to do that, one of us is out for self.

3:05:19Yeah. You know, there's certain people that are just, they just can't get their shit together. Yeah. And desperate people do desperate stuff. And I think that with what we do, like, you know, it's interesting because some friendships, you know, they'll just be like, oh, come on the podcast. And it's like, we haven't hung out though either. Like we don't text. Like comics, I think. It becomes transactional. It starts feeling weird. Such a big part of what you've done for comedy is that green room and having a space that's not on camera. Comics, I think, started going so crazy during the pandemic, myself being one of them, because it's like all of our conversations were monetized.

3:05:53And for public consumption, we stopped just hanging out off camera. Right. And a lot of people were doing it remotely. So they were having podcasts remotely with their friends. That was like their only human interaction. That's right. That's so bad. Nothing I did during the pandemic should have been filmed. But like, you know, we also have to actively go out of our way to be off camera to guys, you know? Yeah, well communities like it's so important. Yeah, the people that don't think it's important just don't have it That's right if you have it and you have a bunch of friends and you get to hang out and have fun together It's like yeah, it's like a like you it's like Stepping into a well of love like that's it.

3:06:30Oh, we're all here Just like like, you know, it's I don't have to tell you You know, those comics that you like look up to so much of their legends and then all of a sudden they just stop being funny. And you're like, how did this happen? You know, whether it's because they've, you know, incubated themselves against, you know, doing what normal people do on a daily basis and, you know, assistants. But they surround themselves. They're not friends with comics. It's always that. It's like, how did that person say they're just not friends with comics and they don't have someone humbling them constantly and pushing back and giving them shit.

3:07:00And all the motivations that got them to be funny when they were younger have been eliminated because almost all of it is try to get extra attention from girls or from your friends. You're trying to be funny. You have no motivation to be funny anymore because everybody loves you and you're rich. And being a comic is a lot, I think, of like having almost intentional contrarian Tourette's where you'll just say some shit. It's a crazy premise. Like sometimes stand up is like saying something that isn't true and then proving it, you know. and to say some and have someone fight back with you that's why I think comics when people like why do comics talk about woke culture so much it's like because we see disagreeing as an interesting conversation you guys see it as fascism and like also woke culture is trying to dictate what people can and can't say and we can disagree and you can't tell me what I can and can't say my body my choice but not what your mouth does yeah yeah yeah you can't just decide And you can't just start saying punch a Nazi.

3:07:56Like settle down. You've got to figure out what a Nazi really is. What are you saying? You're a Nazi because you don't think biological males should be competing with women in sports? Because I've heard that thrown out that way. Well, that's crazy talk. You don't get to define things like that. That's what you're doing when you're fighting against woke culture. You're fighting against nonsense that can't stand up to facts. And the thing about things that stand up to facts is people usually don't defend them violently. They usually discuss them clearly because it's obvious. This one, it's not backed up by facts.

3:08:27Yeah. So the opposition of it is like violent and angry. Like they want to stop debate. They want to stop conversation. This is what the problem with woke culture is. It's just an ideology like any other one. It's got its own rules. And because it's not based on logic, it has to be very angry. It has to scare you. Do people look at hippies like this in the 70s? They wanted to do that. That's how the CIA tricked the fucking hippies into doing all that Manson shit. That's what they were trying to do with the whole Charles Manson. Have you ever read that Tom? The chaos. What's it called? Chaos. Yes.

3:09:02I have it. I've started it. Tom O 'Neill's book. It's fucking incredible. Can't recommend it enough. Yeah. I need to read it. But it's all about them discrediting. So they were terrified of the love movement. They were terrified of all these people that were taking acid and going to Woodstock. And they were like, Jesus Christ, we're losing the cultural battle. And so they got together with Charles Manson and gave him a bunch of acid and taught him how to mind fuck people. And this guy went out and killed a bunch of people and they blamed it on the hippies. They're like, oh, my God, we got to make acid illegal.

3:09:35They made acid illegal like that year. And then the whole world went kooky. They shut down all the psychedelics. That was the sweeping Schedule I Act of 1970. When was the Manson murders? What year was the Manson murders? And while you're finding that, I'm obsessed with CIA. The Philippines operation in the 50s where they made it look like vampires sucked the blood of a bunch of the rebels. Have you seen this? Did they really? I've heard about this before. I forgot about it. It's so sick. 69. So the Manson murders happened in 69. Oh, yeah. In 1970, acid, mushrooms, DMT, all that stuff becomes illegal.

3:10:12Scheduled one. Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy. They threw water on a movement of people abandoning this path that they see their family on, their mother and their father, and they're not happy. And these people are dying unhappy and they're getting heart attacks and they're dropping dead at 60. And these kids are saying, I don't want that in my life. I want to follow the Grateful Dead. I want to make art. I want to dance. I want to go to music festivals. I'll figure out how to live. And they were like no fucking way. We don't want war make love not war what Americans in the street Yeah saying love not war never before not 1947 Right the end think about the end of World War two you couldn't imagine Americans in the street, but in 1967 they're doing it 1967 they don't want to go to Vietnam and they're saying no to war and they're in the street and they're wearing flowers They call them flower children.

3:11:09So they had to turn them into monsters. And so they got Manson. Women had to wear bras again. Nightmare. All that stuff. Like I got in a wormhole on the CIA and Hendricks and Cobain. I'm like, I just can't. There's certain things. I think they have their fingers in probably everything they can get their fingers in. Yeah. All of it. And do they have to? I think they do. Like if they didn't. In some ways. But the problem is they have power that they probably shouldn't have. And then there's always gonna be some crazy guy who keeps pushing things and next thing you know, you're selling coke in Nicaragua Dude this guy that so it was there was some like a myth in the Philippines about this like vampire that would kill people Whatever it was and then they in the middle of night take these rebels that they need to deal with and they drain them off their blood and put Sorry puncture I'm just obsessed with the guy that had to do the puncture marks Like there's a guy who had to like do the vampire marks and so that they everybody woke up and these rebels that they were following they saw that they had been attacked by vampires in it.

3:12:07How did they kill them before they drained their blood? Jameer. How many dudes did they whack, too? That's kind of crazy. That's so wild. That's a great idea. So sick. That's what I'm saying. Imagine if you were a fucking soldier and you thought you were really in a Blade movie. You thought this shit was real. If you were living in the Philippines, I don't know what their education was. I imagine it's not the best. Yep. You're fighting vampires. Right. Or you think vampires are real. But imagine being the guy who was like that's not real the Philippines guy that's like that's not real and then I was like oh shit like That's crazy.

3:12:41Yeah, or the guy who's like told ya. That's crazy. Yeah Just the Kurt Metzger who's like told ya. What year was this the 50s? It's the ashwaga was it called the ashwaga was the name of the vampires they were scared of? People are so nuts They really are so fucking nuts. But this is like when you read this stuff about the CIA and you're like, what are they doing now to make it look like this? And it's really that. So the CIA combat Psywar Squad. And so it says the Psywar Squad set up an ambush along the trail used by the Hucks. When a Huck patrol came along the trail, the ambushers silently snatched the last man of the patrol, their move unseen in the dark night.

3:13:22They punctured his neck with two holes, vampire fashion, held the body up by its heels, drained it of blood, and then put the corpse back on the trail. When the Hucks returned, looking for the missing man and found their bloodless comrade, every member of the patrol believed that the Aswang had got him and that one of them would be next if they remained on that hill. When daylight came, the whole Huck squadron moved out of the vicinity. Wow, what a gangster move. CIA train squad. How many times did they do it? so sick so uh what's the numbers of people that they did it to apparently only used once to dislodge a squadron so it was only one time that they did one guy that was only one body what a dope move so sick that's all you gotta do to let the fear spread I love that shit I would run off that fucking mountain I'm not convinced vampires aren't real I'm not convinced I see what I saw I know what I saw even if it's an animal I think mathematically they can't exist.

3:14:24I think someone has actually done the numbers on this, that mathematically vampires would wind up killing everyone. Oh, interesting. It would be nothing but vampires. No, what are you talking about? Someone else researched it and said that it might not have even worked because they didn't have a vampire-like lore in the region. They had something else where they said that they fed on fetuses of pregnant women. Who's this hater dork? Fed on fetuses of pregnant women. Ugh. yeah but either way it's a monster that drained the guy of its blood by biting him in the neck but it's also like there's not vampires oh there's just the american cia even worse i'd rather there be fucking vampires dude that description was from the cia guy if they even tried to do it we're all so fucked which description was from the one that you read was from lansdale and lansdale is this guy who yeah that guy's a vampire what are you talking So he's the ad exec turned CIA operative who masterminded the plot.

3:15:21What a fucking genius move. I love shit like that. What a genius move. But there's something going on here right now that is that. Imagine being in a room doing coke and pitching that idea. Okay, guys, I have an idea. Fucking vampires. You know that hole puncher that we use down here? I have an idea. And everyone was like, for a second. You snatch the guy and you have to keep him from yelling. so you have to cover his mouth. He's got to be the last guy on the patrol. You have to snatch him so the guy right in front of him doesn't hear it. That's a lot of muffling. You've got to keep him from screaming.

3:15:54You've got to hold on to his body, keep him from fighting back and reaching for a weapon. Don't you think they put something in like a needle with a... It doesn't sound like they did. Not yet? It sounds like they just held that guy and cut his fucking neck and then hung him up by his ankles. This is always my thing. If this is what we know, what do we not know? Oh, we don't know a lot. Anything. We don't know a lot. Especially when crazy stuff comes out. I'm like, if this is like Epstein-less, whatever, if this is what they told us, it's so bad. They did one vampire thing. That was the first time they ever did that.

3:16:19They had to practice a couple times. A few times it didn't work at all. They had to practice blindfolding. They had to kill everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lansdale brags about an improvised bit of homemade voodoo he called the Eye of God. It was based on a World War II side war tactic of learning the names of individual German officers and announcing on the battlefield over loudspeakers that they'd be the next to die if they didn't surrender. Holy shit. Lansdale's twist was to paint a cryptic symbol he called the eye of God outside the homes of suspected Huck sympathizers. The mysterious presence of these malevolent eyes the next morning had a sharply sobering effect, wrote Lansdale.

3:17:00That's crazy. Isn't it like – Lansdale. Does stuff like that make you feel like – People are monsters. Like we're like fake news. News has just always been – like maybe this is the realest, truest news we've ever had. When you think about back then, it was all just gossip. Yeah. Well, I think they definitely controlled the news way better back then. And they can do things like the Gulf of Tonkin, where they just decide that they're going to pretend that we got attacked so that we can go to war. And who knows how many people died because of that. And that's crazy that they did it and got away with it.

3:17:33That's a real tactic. I think this is the crazy part is that he was an ad whiz for all these companies. And then he volunteered to go to the army and they recognized his special talents. He's like, I'm not getting enough evil done working for Nabisco. He's the pioneer of psychological operations. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Started psyops. This is fascinating because this is like I've worked. I sell jeans that cost$10 for$80. Like, trust me, I know how to trick people. That's crazy. It's so fascinating when people went from working in an ad agency to sell products to convincing people vampires were real.

3:18:12Fucking genius. Yeah. I love that shit. Genius. What a great idea. And what's the genius thing now that we're being convinced of? that's like oh i bet they do some of the stuff just for fun to keep practicing remember like charcoal toothpaste was a thing i'm like i use that every day charcoal in your mouth in my mouth works it works because charcoal it absorbs it cleans your teeth it's really good at cleaning your teeth where did we land on this root canals are bad thing i don't know about that i've been i'm meaning to talk to my orthodontist about it i haven't had a chance i'm just trying to figure i know a bunch of people that are thinking about getting their root canals removed and getting a post put in i'm like is that better you're gonna get a fucking drill bit but isn't it more about opening it and bacteria getting in and getting into your lining of your brain i can't i know me too i'm like dude i've been sucking on uh coconut oil and doing a black seed oil in my mouth and just like tell me what to do i'll start eating charcoal if that's what needs to happen so this is i don't know um but like yeah what are the things that we're kind of like falling for right now or being scared of like i feel like there are a lot of tests like dro what are the things that are bothering us that we don't know about like the iridium girls like what about Wi-Fi what if we find out that Wi-Fi is making us less and less in tune with our life or less in tune with our environment or dulls a certain part of your brain I think with or without the like beams harming us the phone is doing that anyway right has there been any long-term studies on sci-fi or excuse me cell phone sci-fi cell phone signals on their interference with things other than bees?

3:19:47Because I know they do interfere with bees. Well, isn't that, was that confirmed because it also could have been fertilizer and pesticides? Well, I think there's something, there's a reason why they believe that it has an impact. What is the reason why they think cell phone signals have an impact on bees? I think that's not pseudoscience. I think there's a real reason for believing that. Because they, I mean. There's something about how they navigate and what they do, that those signals that are in the air with them could fuck them up. I don't understand. I have a lot of Wi-Fi at my house and I have bees fucking everywhere.

3:20:19But, yeah. That may be why. They're like, where the fuck are we? Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's like 11 when they turn on the sirens. When I was pregnant, I was listening to whale sounds a lot. Oh, that's so crazy. Because when you have a baby, it's like an amphibian. It's breathing fluid. That's smart. And then I was like, but what if these whales are fighting? I don't know what they're saying. What if they're saying a bunch of racist shit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, cell phone signals can affect bees, causing behavioral changes like increased agitation and worker piping, an alarm sound indicating disturbance.

3:20:53Those sensationalized claims linking them directly to mass colony collapse are not fully supported by science. Studies show bees are sensitive to the electromagnetic fields from active phones, disrupting their normal communication and potentially leading to disorientation. So here's the thing. Do we know if it affects us? Like, we don't really know. I mean, there's a lot of people that, oh, EMF, man. And there's a lot of people that are like, oh, it's all bullshit. But what is the reality? Do we really know? And isn't all this stuff fairly recent? Yeah. I mean, there is, Jamie, you can find this, and I won't to corroborate it because I won't know the exact year.

3:21:26But T-Mobile had put aside, like, a lot of money for possible lawsuits with all this stuff. So I did the thing. You know how I always have some weird side thing? When you made a documentary on violence. That's right, on Calcio Storico. With Pete Berg, by the way. And I still want to go. I still want to go. It's in Florence every June. Wouldn't you want to go? No. To see Calcio Storico? No. That would be so good. No, no. That would be so sick. No. Because it's not trained fighters. It's just like butchers. Oh, those guys are trained. I mean, they're not like professional, I mean. Oh, I don't know about that.

3:22:05Oh, really? Some of them look like they absolutely knew how to fight. Agreed. They train all year to do this, but they're not like... Is that sure? Are you sure that they don't have any MMA fights or anything? Maybe. I don't know. I'm watching some of those guys. I'm like, that guy looks like he's fought. They're all training all year for this thing, but I think they have other jobs professionally. Right. Okay. But yeah, they all look like they're like... But not all of them. Just a few guys look like ringers. Yeah. When I'm watching it, I'm watching these guys duke it out. Some guys look like they belong there, and other guys look like that's an MMA fighter.

3:22:36That's a guy who's throwing leg kicks. And they say that crime goes down in the region to zero during that month. I mean, why am I opposed to that when I'm not opposed to MMA? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it probably just will annoy you to watch people so bad at this getting hurt. No, no. It's not even that. It's just like I worry that we're moving in a direction where violence is team violence. Team violence like that leads to fucking war. Like individual violence is a one-on-one person. It's your skills against his skills, your mind against his mind, your will, how well you've prepared, the discipline that you showed in training, your IQ in terms of fighting IQ.

3:23:21That's a fascinating contest to me. But when you see teams of dudes running at each other and fucking each other up like that, to me it's like, what are you asking for? Okay, what are you getting people excited about? And what fascinates me about it is what we were talking about earlier with the AI and everything of like knowing what humans need in order to stay, whether it's satiated, you know, bridled in some way of like if AI takes away all the hard things or whatever, like with a whack-a-mole of what are people going to start doing, you know, when they don't have like if AI is like this is too crazy, you guys are fighting too much.

3:23:56It's like but if we're born to kind of fight and need to scratch. That's why we're going to have to integrate. Yeah, merge. put that chip in your brain Whitney look we're all gonna have it I think I have worse things in my brain at this point just like we're all saying like oh I don't want an email everybody has an email now we've already merged with our phones I mean when I leave my phone I feel it in my gut I'm like where is it like I there's times when I'm like driving home and I'm like I've completely atrophied like I don't even have peripheral vision I don't have muscle memory of how to get home Right, you forgot how to navigate LA Yeah, like we are a unit If you try to go through LA and you don't have a navigation system now, you're fucked They call photos memories Because your memories are in there They're not in your head It's like I look when they're like memories And I'm like, oh, I forgot about that Because it's in here Right, you literally don't even remember And then you see the picture and now you remember Yeah, they do like a year ago today I'm like, oh, right I didn't log that You ever have a friend tell you a story and you're like I fucking forgot about that trip.

3:25:01Crazy. It's weird. Crazy. It's like you just didn't have it accessible. That's right. How did I delete that? You deleted it. Why did I delete it? You got no room. There's too many things. Yeah. Especially a person like you who's constantly talking to people, constantly going to different places. Like, there's too much novel shit that's getting into your head. That's right. Too many novel stories, novel conversations. Like, oh, wow. Oh, whoa. Did you know? Did you do? And it's like, after a while, your hard drive's like, bitch, we're bleeding out. Too much. Yeah. And I'm like, why do I remember every lyric to every R.

3:25:29Kelly song? But I cannot remember what happened last week. It's funny. Bitch, I wish you would. Do you remember America? Have you seen America? Oh, yeah. I'm going to bring you back to America. America. Did you get your shots? Did you get your shots? Did you get your vaccine? Let's fill out your paper. You want to come to America with Robert or something? Yeah. Oh, my God. It was fucking amazing. I can't. Amazing. We'll play this just for us, and we'll end this with that. Let me hear that part. That's the other thing. We can't put it on Spotify. Extreme, extreme left people, they'll be like, America's full of fascist Nazis.

3:26:08But let everyone in. Come here. It's technically not a release song, but I don't know if he has the rights to it. Oh, it's like on YouTube? How can he have the rights to it? Yeah, no, no, no. We'll wrap it up. Did you get your shots? What shots? I love you. At the Comedy Mothership all weekend. Sold out. Sorry, bitches. Here we go. Do you have your passport? Do you have your passport? Do you want to wrap it up? Did you catch our shots? All right, we'll wrap it up. Now you play it now. Bye, everybody. Bye, you. Bye.

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