#2443 - Filippo Biondi

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39:15Yeah. And so we are receiving a lot of calls from companies that want to work with me. And so let's see what we can do. And so this is all companies that have reached out after you released the results underneath the pyramids? The most of them are calling me recently. Right. So they've heard about it. Relatively recently, yes. Well, that's capitalism, right? They say, oh, we can make money off of this. Yeah. That's good. It gets people interested. It gets people involved in this. And so we have also a philanthropic project. We are opening a foundation in Malta. We are realizing it in two weeks, and we will have a foundation in Malta.

40:05And with that foundation, we can operate also philanthropically for the Giza Plateau and other ancient megalithics that are located in all the world. We have a plan to scan everything. Really? What is next? Maybe we can see Pumapunco or other sites. Yeah. Gobekli Tepe, perhaps? Gobekli Tepe, yes. Have you looked at the labyrinths underneath, the ones that were described by Herodotus that Ben Van Kirkwick has been talking about and his Uncharted X channel, where there is a huge atrium with a 40-meter metallic object that's the shape of a tic-tac in there? They asked me to do it, and we will do it.

40:54Yeah, you have to do that. I tell you, Joe, the processing is very nice, but it requests a lot of calculations. So it is time-consuming. So at the moment, we have some computers that are dedicated on Jitsa and other projects that we are doing. and in the future maybe we will have other machines that can work to do other things. But we will do it. We need time, but we will do it. Now, are you absolutely convinced that this data is accurate or have any of the criticisms of any of the people that are trying to debunk it, has any of that resonated with you and rang true? Is there any validity to any of the criticisms?

41:44Radar is only precise. The nice thing that has radar is the precision, and especially from space, because space is a very silent environment. You don't have noise, something, the platform is very stable. So when you transmit electromagnetic waves, they return back with absolute precision. And it's recreated over and over again in these 200 plus scans that you've done with various different satellites, correct? Not just one, so that one could have errors. So you're convinced? I'm convinced, 100 % because I invented the method. Yes, I know. But I tell you that I am happy if somebody can replicate things.

42:33So if other research groups can replicate the things that I'm showing, I am happy. Well, you got there first. So no matter what. I mean, if this is correct, you will go down in history as one of the most important figures in archaeology. Because if you are – you're welcome, but it's just fact. If what you're saying is true, and we're just recently discovering this in the 21st century, I mean, that's absolutely mind-bending. Thank you for this. Yes, I am happy for being in this. But not only me. Other people helping me to do my work. Oh, sure. And in principle, my family. Yeah. These structures and this whole area, if this turns out to be something that you don't find just at the Giza Plateau, but around other parts of Egypt, I mean, there's always been a lot of speculation as to whether or not a civilization existed in sub-Saharan Africa, an advanced civilization that is in the areas that are now sand.

43:47You could probably do that same sort of research there as well. Yes, I agree with this, and we will do it, yes. Wow. What is life like for you now having this exposed and now having this on the Internet and all of this speculation and all of this excitement? What has that been like for you? Yes, I am not very used on all this exposure on the Internet. It is something that I have to get used of this. Yes, my life is simple, Joe. I live in Italy. But now I repeat this. It is time to go ahead and go on the Giza plateau. and in person, I wish to see the effective structure, how they are, and the purpose of all the plateau, what it is.

44:54And is there plans to do that in person, to do some sort of an excavation? Yes. I wrote a project proposal, which is research and also not research, a proposal. And now our intention is to submit this proposal at the Egyptian authorities. If you want, I can explain you this proposal. Please. We are involving University of Ferrara, a principal scientist, professoressa Vaccaro, Italian professor, she is a geologist, and other governmental, Italian governmental institutions that are very clever to do scans in situ scans so we are not using my my technique we use the state-of-the-art technique that it is recognized by science today and our intention is to concentrate the efforts on those shafts that that I showed you, that we have seen, because we are not 99 % convinced that, or sure, that those are natural entrants into the structures that are located below.

46:35Because we have the vertical structures, and you saw on the tomographies, you have also horizontal connections. So there's corridors. Yes, you have. And how large are these corridors?

46:50They are tall, about three meters tall. Okay, so about nine feet tall? Yes, yes.

47:00Using these corridors, you will arrive directly inside the coils that we are visualizing, that we visualized before. So there's passages and shafts and these enormous ways that they can go back and forth in between these various structures. The thing that we have to do now is to clean those shafts. We have to do cleaning because now they are... Sand, debris. Yes, debris. Yeah. Yeah. And is there a timeline on when you would like to start cleaning these shafts and start doing this kind of stuff? Yes. It depends when we submit the project. The project is ready. I know people that are living in Egypt that when we are ready, we can submit the project proposal.

47:58Then we are at when the government, if approved the project, we can start. Now I would imagine that something like this, something at this scale would require enormous funding. Yeah. And how do you hope to acquire that? We can make, we can say people that this work is not for me, but it's for humans. and so people we ask people to help us in getting money to perform the work we have to ask people Have you reached out to any like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type people that have tons of money that might be interested in doing something like this? I don't know them, Joe You don't know them? No, but maybe It's a big ask It's a big ask asking a few billion dollars to go dig around under the pyramids.

48:57I mean, how much money do you think it costs to do this? We did an estimation of an estimation about, I don't know, maybe belonging for 20 millions or more. 20 million dollars. And this is just to clean the shaft and go underneath it. Because, why so much money? Because we are, our intention is to work safety. I don't want that people has to go down the shaft and work. We want to use drones, robots to make something automatically and so go down by using machines, not humans. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, and that way you can get accurate real-time video. Yes, yes. Wow. With cameras and it will be something.

49:51I am thinking about this. The most, maybe it's one of the most ancient megalithic structures that we are dealing now can be recovered by the most modern technology that we have now today. And so we can recover modern and ancient together. So you've been giving this presentation now. Yes. And you've been going around. What has that been like? What has the reception of it been like? Yes. A moderate positive reception. Moderate positive. So people that are like, if this is true, it's amazing, but you have to show me more. Yes. Right. I tell you, in this project proposal, I am out. You're out. Yes.

50:35It is better than that University of Ferrara, that is one of the most important universities in Italy, can stay there and manage all the work. It's better. Right. And I'm out. Right. You showed them what's there. You showed them the technology. Now, good luck. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and good luck. So tell me about this presentation. So how do you set this up? I know you brought some of the slides of this presentation. Tell me how you set this up. How you? How you set it up. So how you explain it to these when you have these semi-skeptical scientists that are sitting down there and you're going to tell them, I'm about to rewrite human history.

51:17How do you set this up? they were listening to me very well and they were asking me things about how they the first thing they asked me is how it works and that's good so I slowly explained how it works and how I arrived to make this presentation to have our results and so on and they

51:50someone of them is skeptical, someone a bit less skeptical. Which is what you want. Yes. You want healthy debate about this kind of stuff. Healthy debate, yes. Because it's the only way you find out what the truth is. Yes, only having a healthy debate, we can find what is the truth. I don't want to polarize people for me. It's not my job, no. Well, not only that. It's not you're just discovering something. Yes, this is something that's there. And for people to just put on a skeptical lens and just not look at it at all is crazy. Yes. Like if you're skeptical, we should probably explore it. And if you're wrong, OK, now we know it's not true.

52:33But if it is true, it's a crime to not investigate. To not investigate. It's a crime to not investigate. Yes. and I tell you the solution to we don't have to dig holes ruin what is now preserved no we have to only clean enough and we have to use what there is made it's for us because those shafts they are for us they are calling us our our rights are to clean them and see what there is and go down and explore them personally well it just seems like these shafts exist at alone and they are at that depth that you describe and they are the dimensions you describe it really does lend credence to what you're saying yeah because it seems like there's a purpose for those things and if they do go down to the area where all these structures are.

53:37Seems like there's something there. In my personal opinion, they were built purposely. And if you see the... They're access points, probably. Yes, they are access points. They were made, probably, to... You know, Joe, when you go deep below the Earth, the temperature rises a lot. So there is a certain ratio of where the temperature rises proportional to the depth that you are going. So the shafts are made purposely to take, their function is to transport air, light, and so cool what there is inside. Well, that makes sense. Yeah. And also access. Show me some other slides and other things that are in your presentation so you can get a more comprehensive understanding of what we're looking at.

54:37Okay. Yes, this is the Z. This is Mario Pinkerle. Mario Pinkerle was a researcher that he died on 2011, 12. And he was studying the Z, which is the multilayer monument. Let's call it a monument, but it's not a monument because it has a certain and very precise function that is inside the pyramid. This is the... And this is the outlined image in the lower left-hand corner. Yeah, that's the tomography that we have retrieved. Look, it's very precise. Right. It looks exactly like what it looks like in the actual image. What is that thing? What do you think the function of that thing is? Yes. The function is this.

55:32It is – you see on the top of the structure there is something like that. Like a cap. Yes, like a cap. That cap has a precise function to attract the vibration. It's an antenna in the vibration domain. Antenna in the vibration domain. Yes. Okay. attract the energy in terms of mechanical vibration and propagate them below. There are other slides, please. Okay. Here I did a simulation. Now I'm sorry because I don't have the video because this is a PDF, but I reproduced the function of the Z on the computer. okay okay and look on the right side we have all the vibrations that interacts one to each other to each layer look and you can see that each layer look how strange it is each layer on the top of each layer it is scattered look okay on the top of the each layer and the bottom is very flat It's flat.

56:59So, what is that? It is something related to filter. It is a low-pass filter made by stones. Very crazy. That's a low-pass filter. A low-pass filter. What exactly is a low-pass filter? Yes. A low-pass filter is a filter that allows the transmission only of certain frequencies and reject other frequencies. So it is a stabilizer, frequency stabilizer, and low pass, a certain low value of frequency. Okay? Right. And so this aligns with Christopher Dunn's theory. Yeah. That there was something underneath the pyramid, that there was a chamber that they were using to generate vibration. Yes. And that that vibration would go through the entire structure.

57:55Yes, and look, Joe, the last layer, look, transmits directly inside the so-called sarcophagus. That's not a sarcophagus. There. And so what do you think that's what they call a sarcophagus, this immense granite box? Let's call it, yes, the granite box. Yes, yes. And inside the granite box was done to contain a man, a body. And that vibration, look, collapses at the center of the granite box where the man was lying down. So do you think there was actually a man inside there? So a person would lay in that box? Yes. And what happened to them? I don't know. Whoa. So... I don't know. So that's a simulation that I did, but it's precise.

58:50So you don't think it's for a dead body. You think it's for a live body. Yes. And so a person would lay there and have some probably incredibly profound experience with whatever. Probably, yes. What do you think it was? If you just wanted to get crazy and put on the tinfoil hat and speculate, what do you think it was? I mean, what would happen to a person if they encountered this kind of vibration, these kind of frequencies in this resonating granite box? I can say something that is not scientific recognizing. Yeah, that's what I want.

59:34Keep it up there, Jim. What do you think? Maybe that person was ready to have an out-of-the-body experience induced. Like a gateway. A gateway to the spirit world. look at on the top you have a the antenna the antenna is recepting all the vibrations that transmits the all the signal below directly inside the granite box it's very exciting and what do you think was generating these vibrations yes the natural the not the wind the natural vibration of the earth and also some let's say flowing the flowing of water also the flowing of water and generate vibration. There was also shafts that were this is part of Christopher Dunn's theory these shafts that reached the outside of space that he thinks were attracting space radiation.

1:00:39Can be. There's another possibility. Yes, another possibility. He also had a theory that perhaps the lower chamber that's below the the pyramid itself that there was some mechanical device inside of there that was generating vibration for this can be yes can be something we don't boom through the entire structure and this is creating this vibration that's the antenna you've got this filter through it and then someone is laying in the sarcophagus tripping balls yes is that Whoa. That's crazy. That's crazy. Do you imagine if this entire structure was just built so that someone could have some sort of a bizarre out-of-body experience or psychedelic gateway experience?

1:01:29I think that's true. I think it's psychedelic Disney World. I do. I seriously— Do you? I had that epiphany like two months ago. Really? Okay. I don't want to explain it, but yeah. Please do. I was looking at a picture of me when I was a kid at Cedar Point, which is a roller coaster place. I was just thinking of how much effort we put in to making kids or young adults have a wild experience. That is only in reference. You only understand it if you live there. If you found Disney World now in a thousand years, you'd be like, what the fuck? They worship mice? What the fuck are you talking about? This is insane.

1:02:05Look at all the pictures of mice everywhere. That's so true. But you'd see that giant castle and there's rides everywhere and you would have no idea what the experience of that ride would have been like. Or the teacups. Right. It's nonsense. It's fun for kids. But also would make them feel amazing. But also adding what this vibration stuff does and sound and music and all these other things. You could put them all together and be like, you could feel like a god. Yeah. If lightning hit the thing, you'd be like, what the? I don't know. I just had that wild idea one day. It's an interesting idea because you think people have always been fascinated by achieving novel experiences.

1:02:41And what more novel experience than a 2 ,300 ,000 stone structure that's perfectly aligned to true north, south, east, and west, aligns to the stars of Orion's belt. You lie inside a stone box and the vibrations hit you and you're in that box. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Naturally, you go out of the body. Who knows what it does to the body and the mind because we know that the mind is capable of producing endogenous psychedelic chemicals. We also know that people have a very profound reaction to frequencies. That's why sound hits us so hard and we love music and just vibration itself. And this sound weapon that they just recently used in Venezuela, supposedly, to knock out all Maduro's troops.

1:03:27What could this thing have been?

1:03:33Yes, I am relatively sure that the principal actor of everything can be water, vibrations, so sound, but we are dealing now with a third thing, so the purpose, the exact purpose of this. Maybe it can be also one, more than one purposes, no? More than one scopus of the pyramids. The pyramids intended to be, now I am 100 % convinced that the pyramids can be considered the tip of the iceberg of something of something very huge that is composed by things that are below the earth and the pyramids that are up at the surface of the earth. So what do you think the reason for the design of the pyramid in that specific geometric shape?

1:04:45Yes, probably because they have to resonate with the universe. in some, they have to resonate with the universe. The universe, Joe, it is not complicated, it's simple. Because the universe is constituted by things, the matter, the particles, the light, yes, but everything is regulated by some constants. There are the constants. So the speed of light, C, 3 times 10 to the 8 kilometers per second. Then you have the velocity of the light, so you have the electric constants, the magnetic constants that arranges very well the law of the universe. So it is important that something that has to be well related to the place that we live, to the universe, has to contain very precisely the dimensions of recasting the constants of the universe.

1:06:10And that's what you think the pyramids did? Personally, yes. Personally, yes. How old do you think they are? Yes, on the... Sorry, the Italian starts. I start speaking Italian. No, it's okay.

1:06:34The thing that we can say for certainly is that the pyramids are older than the dates that are written on the typical history books. so to see something to say something very precisely we have to go back in time into the Zaptapi so more than 36 thousands years ago something happened to the earth so the Zaptapi began and in a time belonging the Zaptapi and the Great Flood where built the pyramids.

1:07:22So, I'm sending you something, Jamie, that's very interesting. Yes. So, do you have an estimation? What is your personal belief? Yes. We can't say exactly the year. So, Zeb Tevi, let's explain to people what that is, since I sometimes forget. But Zeptepe is the thing that I described to Zahi Hoas, and he dismissed it. But there's this. I've never heard of this. It's an ancient king's list. And it's a list of pharaohs that goes back past 30 ,000 years. And it's very inconvenient for modern academics. And so they like to portray it as myth. and then when it gets to the age of historically accurate pharaohs that we know of, Khufu and Khafre, then they allow those hieroglyphs.

1:08:16Yes. But when you get all the way back to the 30 ,000 years ago, they like to say that that's just mythology. Yes, it's true. But it is a matter of fact that Zeb Tebbi, we have also other ancient megalithics that are very old. recognized very old. So we have to deal with that. Well, Gobekli Tepe was a big problem. Gobekli Tepe is a big problem also. More than 11 ,000 years old, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And as we saw... Here it is. This is something that I actually just talked to Graham Hancock about. This is Stella as a limestone inscription discovered in 1858 near the Great Pyramid complex at Giza.

1:08:56And the text describes a pharaoh Khufu who ruled from 2589 to 2566 BC, visiting the site and ordering restorations to existing structures, including a temple associated with the goddess Isis. The stela refers to Isis as the mistress of the pyramid, a title that has raised questions about whether parts of the Giza plateau were already considered sacred before Khufu's reign. And although most Egyptologists date the stela itself to the 26th dynasty, more than 2 ,000 years after Khufu, Its wording continues to draw attention because it betrays the pharaoh as a restore rather than the original builder.

1:09:38Whether inscription provides older traditional or reflects later religious interpretation remains debated. But if this is accurate, this describes Khufu as restoring the pyramids. Now, this exists throughout history. The temple of Tenochtitlan, where the Aztecs had, when they described it, they described it as the place where the gods were born. And they found it. Like people think the Aztecs made the pyramids. They did not. There was some sort of a previous civilization that lived in Mexico prior to the people that called themselves the Aztecs or what we call the Aztecs. So there's a longstanding history of people repurposing existing structures and claiming them as their own.

1:10:26And if this stella is accurate, and this was also in Fingerprints of the Gods, Graham Hancock's book. So I sent this to Graham, and his reaction was pretty interesting. What he said to me was that there's a strong suggestion that the Khufu pyramid might have been one of the three subsidiary structures alongside the Great Pyramid's eastern flank. And all that looked like damaging evidence against the orthodox chronology of ancient Egypt, it also challenged the consensus view that the Giza pyramids had been built as tombs and only as tombs. However, rather than investigating the statements from the Stella, the Egypt Chaldefs, they chose to devalue them in his quotes.

1:11:13They chose to say, oh, that's just inconvenient. But if they are describing it that way, that seems like this is a longstanding tradition of people finding things that exist. there's clearly ancient Egypt itself, dynastic Egypt, is a very complex society, very complex and very advanced society, even if they didn't build that stuff. But it seems like they're saying the restorer. Yes, yes. I agree with you, Joe. I tell you, there are some facts that we have to observe, because I am used to observe before I say something I have to observe so I am not an expert of pyramids because I am an engineer I work on satellites I am a space engineer I am not an egyptologist but I can observe

1:12:22inside the pyramids they found a lot of salt

1:12:30that were attached on the walls so they found salt why there was salt there first, second the shafts that we are dealing now if we want to clean the shafts why there is debris? Why they are tupped?

1:12:55So if the great flood is an historical parameter recognized, so let's say 11 ,000, 12 ,000 years ago, let's say something like that. I don't remember precisely. The Zeptepe, which is not recognized, is 36 ,000 in the past. So between the Zeptepe and the Great Flood, we can locate the pyramids and the Sphinx. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. It's tax season, and by now I know we're all a bit tired of numbers. But here's an important one for you to hear. $16 billion. That's how much money in refunds the IRS flagged for possible identity fraud. Here's another. One in four honest, hardworking, taxpaying Americans have been a victim of identity theft.

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1:15:31Rated R. Wow. So the Great Flood, we're looking at 11 ,000 plus years ago. Zeb Tepe, you're looking at 30 ,000 plus years ago. Yes. We can say I'm an engineer. I put myself in the center between 36 ,000 and 11 ,000. See if you can find some images of salt in the Great Pyramids because it is quite fascinating. And if there was some sort of a massive rise of sea and massive flooding, which is depicted in every single ancient religion from Epic of Gilgamesh to the Hopi talk about it. I mean, it's like almost all cultures have a story. Obviously, Noah and the Ark and the flood in the Bible. but this salt.

1:16:22Joe, two months ago, I went for the first time to visit the pyramids and I found salt on the wall. There is still salt. And you think that salt is probably because... I taste it. It's of water, of the sea. Wow. Yes. I forgot to bring it to you. Not just that, but there's so much salt that there's still salt there 11 ,000 years later. which is really extraordinary. And so you think that that salt is because the entire area was flooded? Yes. And that's the reason why the shafts were flooded and filled with debris? Yes. Right. Topped off with debris because everything just flooded into there. And then when the sea receded, so many years later, you're left with salt everywhere.

1:17:09Yeah. And that's why the reason that I don't want that people go to work inside the shaft because they're dangerous, can collapse the debris, can collapse because you can have bubble of air and so it's dangerous. Right, right. Robots has to go. Right, well, it makes more sense. Robots are safer and it's also like you do. So everything is connected. The Great Flood, the Zeptepe, and the pyramids. Wow. And I'm convinced with that. Yeah? I am convinced. That maybe 18, I go in the center, 18 ,000 or something like that, between 18 ,000 and 20 ,000. Well, what's crazy is, I mean, that pushes back that ancient civilization by 14 ,000 years, which is at least 14 ,000 years.

1:18:00I mean, John Anthony West thought maybe 30 ,000 plus years did the construction of the Sphinx. That's what he thought. And when Robert Shock from Boston University, the geologist that started doing work on the the pyramid, and then, excuse me, the Temple of the Sphinx. The Sphinx, yes. Yeah, and the water erosion, he's like, this is... It's vertical. Yes, it's vertical fissures that come from thousands of years of rainfall, and the last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley, that was 9 ,000 years ago. Yeah. So you're dealing with thousands of years before that of rain to achieve that kind of erosion.

1:18:35Yes. It is necessary now when... That's why this research and this activity that hope we will do, it is very important. Yeah. Because this, it is able to rewrite everything. I mean, really rewrite everything. Imagine if you could get something from down in those shafts, in those corridors, something that you could date. Yeah. And you get a date back of 26 ,000 BC. You go, what? I mean, this is, it's not outside of the realm of possibility. That's what's so crazy about this. It just really does seem like we are getting more and more evidence that things are far older than conventional wisdom, the conventional narrative that's taught in schools.

1:19:25Yes, I agree. I agree because as I told you before this is time this is the time to to see effective what which is the exact date of construction who made them and how they made them but how could we figure out how they made it that's the crazy thing right because we don't even understand the technology they used to cut them yeah we don't know what they had and that's the other thing if you're dealing with something that's 20 ,000 plus years old, 15 ,000 years old, what's going to be left? All the metal's gone, everything is eroded, the earth is reclaimed, most things. Really, the thing that you have left is stone, which is pretty crazy.

1:20:10Yeah, and if we see the rooms, all the structures that are currently inside, let's say the Cheops Pyramid, which I like it a lot, the Grand Gallery is very nice, fascinating. they have a precision incredible precision all those big huge stones that is composed in the Grand Gallery it's very exciting I like it a lot Did you have any sort of fascination about the pyramids before this? Joe I remember when I was young, very young I used to I had

1:20:55how you say I had a personal computer, a very old one and I was always playing always on something that and there was the pyramids. They were all the pyramids. And in that meantime I realized that I liked the pyramids. I was very young. So the personal computer, you were just researching the pyramids, is that what it was? Yes, yes. Just looking at pictures and images? Yes, yes, on the pyramids. So you always were fascinated by it. But did you have an understanding or even any questions about the timeline of civilization before this? No, never. So it only happened within the last few years? Yes.

1:21:39Yes. I began working, so being interested in pyramids starting from 2018. So it was right after you started doing this research. Yes. And you started saying, okay, what is this? Yeah. And so when you start to research on something that is our history, our past, our origins, because our origins are there. So we have to fetch, we have to find what there is there. because it is important to research our origin because in this meantime, humanity does not know. We don't know who we are. We don't know our origins. We don't know anything of who we are. And most of the answers can be found in studying the pyramids.

1:22:43Well, it certainly seems to be the greatest accomplishment that ancient humans had ever created. Yes. And if these humans were far more ancient than we currently believe, that is really, really interesting. Yeah. And it is for me very, it is something that I have it always in my mind, only to know how they did, how they cut the stones, how they have transported the stones and how, I don't know, how, how, how, everything. It's all how, how, how. Yes. What gave them the idea? Like, were there any previous pyramids? Because it's weird because the older you go, the more complex the structures are.

1:23:24Yeah. And the newer ones are kind of shitty. Yeah. So, okay, so we went from that, we showed this antenna, and it goes into the supposed sarcophagus and these vibrations. What other things do you show in your presentation that are interesting? I show it principally all the structures that are under the Kafri pyramid and also under each pyramid. And also I described the method on how going below without drilling anything. And so I showed them that the entrances are there on our eyes. Everyone can see those shafts. And so why we are not exploring them? Why they are so dirty? Why they are so without any kind of work of renew?

1:24:26Maintenance, yeah. I don't know why. Well, it seems like there's limited resources, first of all. Moivy, yes. Yeah. And also it seems like Egypt, an entire economy is based on tourism, an immense amount of tourism, because it's so fantastic. There's people from all over the world make a pilgrimage. I also find a method to combine, so not stopping the tourism. So it is possible to combine the work and also the tourism. So we can delimitate the area. Inside the area, we work. And outside the area, safety, all the people can visit the Giza Plateau. Not only that, I think it will enhance tourism. Yeah.

1:25:11Because if this speculation proves to be fruitful and you start looking under there and you find that there is evidence to all this, it's just going to make more people want to go there. Oh, yes. I agree with you. But you imagine, Joe, we will find the structures that are underneath. And maybe we can try to build a huge lift that carry people downstairs in safety always, or maybe not below for a lot, but at a certain depth, so they can also travel along the horizontal corridors that are present. And so they go up from the shafts and they go up to the Kafre pyramid and they go away from the entrance here and they go intercepting the pyramids.

1:26:07That would be amazing. Yeah, I mean, it would just be much more tourism. Yes. Yeah. And also, all eyes would be on Egypt. Yes. I mean, it would probably be a huge boost to their economy. It would probably be a huge boost to archaeology because more young people would get fascinated by it and want to study it. Yeah. And imagine also this. What can we find below? Down there, what can we find? This is a question that I am asking. Because if we watch the slide concerning the shaft that I want to clean, there are things inside. I am showing that there are things located inside the chamber. Look, there is something.

1:26:56What is that? What are you seeing? We're talking about the shaft where it goes all the way down to the bottom, and there's the chamber. Is that what you mean? That one, yes. Right there. So that structure that is at the bottom. What's that? I don't know what's that. Right. It's very huge. Very huge, and it's at the bottom of this shaft. Look at the horizontal corridors. Mm-hmm. And so there's more horizontal corridors during the, when you traverse down into the shaft. Then you. You intercept. Right. Other corridors. And how large are those corridors? About three meters tall. So there's three, so there's these three meter tall shafts that go to the side.

1:27:44Yes. These corridors that go to the side. Yes. Along the way and then also down at the very bottom. Yes. And you're convinced of this. This is all accurate data. Right. And no one has ever sent a camera down there or anything? Those are human, man-made structure, like a ring on another ring. Look, it is very clear. Right. If you observe the structure, those are man-made. Right. And they go deep, very deep. And you can see the rubbish that is on the bottom. All the debris. The debris. And that debris, you think, was a lot of it because of the flood? I am 100 % sure of this. Yeah. So the pyramids or the Giza Plateau, it seems to stop the functionality, the working.

1:28:36We don't know which kind of work were used to do, but stopped because of the great flood. So we can go back in time in 12 ,000 years ago. And when people, the people that don't know, if you're hearing this, like what great flood, that's just not, that's just myth. There's a thing called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. And the Younger Dryas Impact Theory group that's been studying this, they now know that there was impacts to the earth that are around the 11 ,800 year mark. And then I believe again in the 10 ,000-year range, Randall Carlson is probably the best guy to talk to about that. But they find high levels of iridium, which is very common in space and very rare on Earth.

1:29:24But there's a layer of it. They also find these nanodiamonds that they also discovered during the first Trinity explosion when they detonated the atomic bomb. They find these microscopic glass particles that are created by the intense explosion interacting with the sand. So what is it called? Trinitite? Tritonite? Is that what it's called? What are those? Nuclear glass. What is that called? Tritonite? Is that what it's called? Something related to vitrification. Yes. Okay. So this exists all over the world. And it exists all over the world when they do a core sample at the same depth. Yeah. And so this is a very strong scientific indicator of evidence that we've been hit.

1:30:06Yes. Yeah. But another scientific indicator is the debris. Why there is that debris there? Right. Why so much? So much. Right. Why so much? If we do carotage drilling of that debris inside the shaft, I don't know how deep we can go. So why there is all that debris there? We don't know. Right. Which makes sense if there is a great flood that fills the pyramid with salt water. Yes. It probably washed all that sand into that gigantic vertical shaft. Yeah. Completely makes sense. Yeah. And I tell you, Joe, if we do a chemical exploration of that debris, we can find also a certain density of salt because we're mixed in the past by salty water and debris and soils.

1:30:55Mm. Also, you could get dirt from the very bottom and get some sort of organic material and carbon date that. And maybe you can get an understanding of like maybe when stuff was washed down to the bottom of that shaft. Very interesting. Yes, it's possible. It can be possible. It would be crazy if they did that and it lines up directly with the Younger Dryas Impact Theory. I mean, that would be incredible evidence. Either way, just what it is that we know that there's immense shafts. We know that they go many, many meters deep into the earth. And we know that there's these horizontal shafts along the way, these corridors along the way.

1:31:35All of it is just nuts.

1:31:40I was looking at the Osiris shaft here, this shaft. Okay. Just near these other ones. When they found it, there was water down there they had to get out. And the water is not only cold, ice cold it says, it's clean enough to be drinking water. Whoa. And I don't know that it doesn't, it sounded like it refills itself. Oh, so there's a spring down there. Well, that is also the problem with the labyrinth. So the labyrinth that they have where there's this enormous atrium and this 40 meter long metallic object that apparently is underneath there. and this is through ground penetrating radar that they discovered this.

1:32:17I don't think they know what that metal is either. I think it's an unknown metal. But they built a dam there, I believe in the 1960s, and to help the farmers. And unfortunately, that flooded that whole area. So because they changed the direction of the water and built this dam, the water table rose. Yes. And that entire labyrinth is now filled with water. Yeah. But through ground penetrating radar, they've been able to get this accurate assessment of the dimensions of it. And then they go back to the descriptions of Herodotus, who described it. See if you can pull that up. Herodotus described it as greater than the Giza Plateau itself.

1:32:55So these labyrinths, these corridors, these atriums, these huge passageways underneath the Great Pyramid area, more complex and more spectacular than the pyramids themselves. Yes. My God. My God. Like, what was this civilization? Yes. These people living in Africa, however long ago, were so much more advanced than perhaps anybody that's ever existed, including us. Yes. Just in a different way. Including us. Including us. Just in a different way. Just to remark the fact, Joe, that there is difference between the water table, which of course is composed by drinkable water and the water that they found compounding the Osiris shaft.

1:33:42and the water that transported all the debris, but that water was salty water because of the great flood. So it was water of the sea, composing the sea. Which makes sense when you see the salt that's all over the pyramids. This is Herodotus' quote, I have seen it myself and indeed words cannot describe it, though the pyramids beggar description and each one of them is a match for many great monuments built by Greeks. this maze surpasses even the pyramids. That is crazy. That's crazy that he said that. And have you ever seen any of the artistic renditions of what it looks like? No, but... See if you can find some of that, because we did it.

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1:37:23Yeah. Awara. And if you could find out what that 40-meter-long metallic object is, that's when things get weird. That's when things get real weird. Because you find a spaceship down there, then things get really fun. I mean, we're Egyptian space travelers. Why not? I mean, if they could build that, why not space? Who knows what they could do? They're lying in a gigantic stone box, tripping balls. They have this huge pyramid. The structures go, how long? A kilometer of the entire thing into the Earth? 1.2. 1.2 kilometers into the Earth. From the base of the pyramid down, 1.2 kilometers. Wow. Wow.

1:38:09Wow. Wow. Does this change, I mean, from 2018 to now, from you researching this, does this change your entire perspective of human history and just human beings in general? In my personal opinion, yes. Because before this was a problem accepting how the pyramids were made, all those stones. But if we are adding also the structures that are underneath, I don't know what happens. More impossible than before. Right. More impossible than, I mean, if you'd imagine with modern technology, trying to recreate something like that. You're talking about an immense project that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

1:38:57Yes. If not more. And the engineering involved in it. I mean, you're an engineer. The engineering involved in doing something like that, like, how? How they can cut the granite so precisely is impossible. It's impossible. Also today, it's impossible. So they had some sort of a technology that is far more advanced than we have. They just went in a different direction. We went in the direction of internal combustion engines and electronics, and they probably went in some completely different direction. Yes, because the modern science started from a point and then, as you are saying, right, we followed a direction, which is the direction of light.

1:39:43because most of our inventions, our, yes, internal combustion engines and other stuff, but principally we use light because we can see it. We can see it. We can see light. Okay, we use light. But other existence, other people that was living in the past maybe use other things that we don't know. Maybe sound. Maybe sound. It seems like if this is generating sound and vibration, if your speculation is correct, that they were obsessed with vibration and sound. Yes. They were obsessed in vibrations and sound. Because all the structures that I watched inside the pyramids, they are like something that generates sound or they maintain clean the sound.

1:40:46It resonates sound. It echoes. It has a very specific echo to it. The Z like that is magnificent. The Z is perfect. It's a perfect device made by stones. It's very nice. And just how? How and where did they get the understanding to construct something like this? And this is what screws up our idea of a linear timeline of human progression in civilization, to go from caveman to modern 2026 human being. We like to think that it was just, oh, we figured this out, and then we figured the wheel out, and then it was agriculture. Now here we are today with cars. But more likely, there were some peaks and valleys.

1:41:33We rose up to a very high level probably during Egypt and it was shattered down and it took probably a long time before civilization rebuilt itself again. Yes. Joe, then we are speaking about modern living, but modern living has to be sustainable. Right. I don't think that our modern living is so sustainable. No. No. I mean, even our population isn't sustainable. No. We're in population collapse in many countries in the world, South Korea, Japan. Even there's arguments about America itself, that we're in population collapse. And we're also chaotic. We also have a very bizarre distribution of information that's filled with nonsense and lies and propaganda.

1:42:20Yes, lies and propaganda, yes. We have the government that's constantly trying to censor people and control speech and limit your ability to express yourself and complain about things so they can continue to dominate resources. We have a weird society today. But it's also a society because of this access to information where you can discuss and explore things in a way that has never happened before. And that is – that's the most exciting thing about our time. Yeah. Because there's so much room for discussion. I want to, if I can, to explain you something that is maybe related to philosophy or to other things.

1:43:03We have an example of how modern humans are a bit strange because we are not made, it is like that we are not made to research or to find the harmonics in our living. And so I just want to make an example. Do you remember in the 80s when the cold fusion rises? Yes, yeah. So maybe we are speaking about Fleshman and Pons that made for the first time, they had a glass of water and inside they made a mini nuclear reactor inside. They had some results that were very, very poor results, I know, but was a base to build something stronger. They put away that experiment. So no, they debunked that experiment.

1:44:09It was not good. It is not good because it is not possible. And the example of the cold fusion is how we are. Because cold fusion was devoted to find the energy using resonance. Resonance. Why? How it works, cold fusion. We have two atoms of hydrogen. We start putting together these two atoms, but while we put together these two atoms, there are the atomic forces that tend to... No, I don't want to stay with the other atom. But then there is a limit that the atoms fuse together and it transform it is they are transformed in helium plus energy because of of mass the mass difference and so you can do energy by fusion this is fusion not called the fusion so you can have a fusion by forcing together the atoms that they don't want to stay together So the force, force together.

1:45:27And that is hot, yes, that is hot fusion. Cold fusion, you convince the two atoms to stay together naturally. Okay? So today... What method do they use to convince these atoms to stay together naturally? Yes, yes. you have to find a third material that convince the two atoms to stay together. Like you say, I have a couple, you have a couple, a girl and a man, they don't want to talk one to each other. If you put a third person between them, at the center of them, and she and maybe a third person convince the man and the girl to speak together, and they will speak together. Okay? So the third material, which is palladium, they use palladium.

1:46:23Palladium has a physical property to make, speak together the two atoms and without force them, they naturally transform into helium and they generate energy because the helium has a mass lower than the two atoms. with mass difference, you will generate energy. And doing this at scale is really the holy grail of modern science. This has always been the quest. Yes. So we have two paradigmas, convincing something or obtaining the results using the force. And so the street that you were speaking before, science had this street. it, we want to have things by using force, not convincing. Right. That's where we are.

1:47:20Yes. That's nuclear power. Yes. Nuclear energy. Yes. Because I tell you, today also hot nuclear fusion does not exist because it is very difficult to make a huge reactor that uses the tokamaks or something related to laser that forces together the atoms. It's something not natural. Cold fusion was natural. And so the pyramids are something related to vibrations, to harmonic resonance, to something like that. It is the right creation that was the past. They were the right creation. They were doing it the correct way. Instead of doing it against nature, they were doing it in harmony with nature.

1:48:14In harmony with nature and in the universe. And that's why all the dimensions are related to the constants of the universe. The universe is like a book that is open. We have to just observe it. And it's not difficult. It's very simple to read the universe. Okay, show me more. Show me more of this presentation. What else do you have in here? When you go from the cap with the sound resonating into the supposed sarcophagus. Yes. What else? We can go to that slide.

1:48:51This stuff is awesome. This is my favorite subject by far. Of all subjects, ancient history and particularly ancient Egypt is my favorite subject. Okay. We stop to Pinkerle. It's so undeniably interesting. If we can go a slide up, here, look, here we are dealing with something that happened in 2020, 2022. After this, after our paper was published, because these results are on our first paper. Look, Joe, that slide there, that picture. The lower left slide. Yes. Yes. You depict chambers that were previously not known. Yeah. That's the big void. Right, the big void. That's the big void. And then there is the Chevron connecting with the corridor, the base of the Grand Gallery.

1:49:49That corridor was discovered six months later by Zaki Awas. Wow. they made the paper but the I I depicted six months so you let them know it was there and then that's the corridor that's the corridor found it that's the corridor yeah I don't want to say that I found it about well but you found it I'll say it you found it so your technology showed something that turned out to be true and is now established. Yes. And again, how crazy is it they're just finding new chambers in the pyramids in the 21st century? Pretty spectacular. Yes. That they're just finding this now. And just yesterday, I was to examine it again.

1:50:41I don't have slides here. I am sorry. But there are the results of the Scam Pyramid project. The Scampina Visual is very good. It is a very nice project group. And they discovered the so-called big void. But there is a problem because they say the big void can be something parallel to the Grand Gallery. Not steady, but inclined. In an incline, right. examining the results, I was observing something. Maybe, I say maybe, I can't say that I am right of this. Maybe they are confusing an inclined new chamber by the top of the, they are distinguishing the top of the Grand Gallery and the bottom of the Grand Gallery.

1:51:49Like that. I observed the results. But in my personal opinion, the big void is not inclined, but it is located where there is that red blob there. That's the Grand Gallery. Yes, there and also up. Yes, that's the Grand Gallery. It is not inclined. It's flat like that. It's steady, not inclined. Right. That's the Grand Gallery Why do they think it's at an incline? Because we are not seeing we are not my technique does not detect is not detecting an inclined chamber on the top of the Grand Gallery Why do they think there's an incline? Yes, because they found two targets parallel but I am feeling to tell them to be careful because maybe they are confusing the roof of the Grand Gallery and the lower part of the Grand Gallery.

1:52:52I see. Okay. They have to be careful. Interesting. But it's just also more evidence that your techniques are very effective and accurate because you did describe it. yes we can see the the the results that i uh that i um obtained on the grand sasso we can see the grand sasso and the laboratory of grants also this that is the perfect benchmark that describes the effective effectiveness of my technique all right show me some more what else you got here show me another slide

1:53:38below, I think. Ah, okay, okay. We go to Gubbio. This is a town where I live. I am... This is Saxo-Haman, right? Saxo-Haman, yes. This is Saxo-Haman. And here I am showing you the next work that we can do once the JIZA scanning activities are finished. So this is in Peru, correct? Yes. And so you want to scan this as well because, you know, we've had quite a few people on describe this. Look, Joe, the stones are like marshmallows. Yes. They are like marshmallows. How they did those things there? Enormous. Enormous. Some of them 100 tons carved from stones that who knows how they put them into position, but they carved them in this very strange way to absorb the impact of earthquakes, right?

1:54:35Yes. The idea of this technology is that the reason why they're like a puzzle piece is because it would be much less likely to move in an intense earthquake. Okay. Go back to Tepe. E gubbio, just a few words on this city that is a small town that is located in Perugia where I live. look the Italian the authority of the city of the town asked me to perform a scanning around that Colosseum that is mini Colosseum that is located in Gubbio because probably there is a huge Roman city not so old but it is a Roman city that compounds that arena that is there so a lost Roman city that's around that area yes yes and I say hello to the people of Gubbio so is this the next thing that you're going to do one of the next things but Saxo-Huaman yes and there is also Caracora also very interesting the slide 51 please yes yes Karakora yes this this is located in Russia and there are huge structures inside there and this is in Russia yes yes and nobody knows the purpose of the of those things there nobody is crazy more than crazy and how big are these things oh yes keep this up just for a couple seconds I just like how big are we what are we looking at here yes we have nine plus sixteen plus seven plus ten plus thirty six and we they go below so maybe two or three hundred meters below two or three hundred meters and there's this immense rectangle at the bottom of these corridors yeah and and it goes more more deeply And so nobody knows what it is.

1:56:51And if you look at that image, it's clearly a man-made structure. It's man-made, absolutely, yes. I mean, look, there's stones. They're placed. Yeah. That is nuts. That's crazy. And there's no historical timeline, no understanding of who did it? No. Wow. So it's likely that there's structures like this that exist that are undiscovered probably all over the world. Yeah. Yes. The nice thing of this is this. Satellites are global, globally. So one satellite flies from, let's say, South Pole, North Pole, South Pole, like that. Right. Because of the angular momentum conservation, the, let's say, the wheel of the orbit remains steady and the Earth rotates inside this circle.

1:57:51The circle remains steady. Right. like that. So at least once a day, one satellite can observe potentially any part of the globe in one day. So you can program snapshots where you want in all the Earth in one day. And how many satellites are up there? Ah, there are the satellites that contains on board of them a payload composed by a synthetic aperture radar. There are a lot. There are different satellites, companies that provide these services. So today it is possible to decide to observe something. Okay, I call the company and they pour case for me an image. And this structure in Russia, how was this initially discovered?

1:58:48Was it discovered by explorers? Manually, by explorers. Manually. Yes. And how did they get the dimensions of it? Are people able to go all the way down into it? That man, because there is only a man that went down because it's very narrow, but once you go down, everything becomes very huge and large. Measure it manually, all those depths. but more there than then you can't go because maybe it's too narrow I don't know he's okay did you find any images of that Jamie online

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2:02:13Yes, and you have the same... Oh, okay. It says it's currently known from fringe social media and YouTube-style sources rather than former archaeological publications because it hasn't been explored, correct? Yeah, it's 15 years ago. Yeah, pretty nuts. But I mean, who's doing that kind of work in Russia, especially now? Deep underground shaft lined with large parallel megalithic stone blocks with walls described as straight and polished suggest artificial construction rather than a natural cave or fissure. And this is all from our sponsor, Perplexity, that we run all our questions through. And it's always been very accurate.

2:02:51Said to lie somewhere between in the Russian caucus, often simply described simply as North Caucus or Caucus Mountains, with videos and posts presenting it as evidence of unknown or very ancient civilization with advanced stone working techniques. Crazy. They don't know who made this. there's no accessible peer-reviewed archaeological articles official Russian heritage records or academic monographs to describe the site formerly named named the Kara Hora am I saying that right Kara Hora got a Hora shaft which strongly suggests the claim has not been vetted by mainstream archaeology but you know look it exists whether it's vetted or not it doesn't matter like what who made it what is it nuts that's really crazy I had no idea that that existed and it's just it makes you think like if they just found that in 2011 and manually right and maybe doing a wide a wide research by satellites maybe starting from there or other sites between that that carahora maybe we will find other things right it could be a part of an enormous complex yes who knows but just the fact that that exists and that a human made that or humans made that that's crazy the whole thing is crazy because it really does like anybody that boy the modern archaeologists and people that are the gatekeepers of archaeological information are fighting an uphill battle because like you can't at a certain point in time you have to give up and go i don't know and that's an i don't know moment yes this and i don't know what the hell is that what is that i don't know some more images jamie because it's really kooky of the shaft yeah just that what that looks like i'm trying to it's i'm digging down a hole and there's a post here on yes there are not so many like they're misinterpreting something this is jay anderson who's been on the podcast recently this is the tweet I found.

2:04:51How about some fat check? Kara Hora in the Kabardino, Balkria Republic, North Caucus of the Russian Federation is a different place from Karakoto. So Karahora and Karakoto, so there's more than one place? I'm just Googling stuff. It all comes from this one video, it seems like, because everyone's pointing to this video, and this video is compiled of all sorts of stuff. It's got 3 million views from 2024 so i can see how it goes when it went viral you know but uh it starts off with just showing that and i don't you know so this is probably the entry to this area maybe but again no one knows they can't tell you where that is like on a map right got it look how precise they are so this might be who knows yeah it could be real could be nonsense well the the images of that guy standing there looking outside of that opening that you showed earlier in your presentation is just bananas.

2:05:51But whatever this is, it's fucking... That's where I don't know where it's from. You know, it could be... Right. Do they have any video of once they got all the way down through? So here... Okay, let's keep going. See what it looks like. I don't even know. Yeah, so someone else has done narration on it. It's coming from a different channel. I can see a tag on there. is coming from a different show. God, look at the right angles, though. This is nuts. Yes. I mean, it clearly looks like something man-made. Look how precise they are. Yeah. It's crazy. No, that's man-made. It's absolutely man-made.

2:06:29There are also a comparison with the dimensions. Of the dimensions. Wow. What the hell is that? It's crazy. It's crazy. What the hell is that? It's crazy, and they found it in 2011. I mean, imagine how much more of this stuff. I mean, that's one of the things about Gobekli Tepe. They've only observed 5 % of it. I mean, 5 % of it they've uncovered. And through ground-penetrating radar, they know of multiple sites nearby. Yes, but ground-penetrated radar has a problem. What is the problem? The problem of ground-penetrating radar is the penetration depth is a few meters. So there is a problem of penetration depth.

2:07:12but in that depth you are very precise. So you have to take into account that more than 15, 20 meters below you can't go. Right. But using that method they have found all these structures that exist around. It's a good method for in-situ exploration, yes, and so you can find nice things using ground penetrating radar. If you want to perform a wide area, rough, let's say rough scanning, you can use my method. So you can find huge things on wide area. For the details, it's okay, ground penetrating radar. Is there anything else you want to show us that's in your presentation that you think? Okay.

2:08:03Show me some more stuff. Yes. It's a pleasure. Yeah, please. It's a pleasure for me too. Thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. Karakora. Is that how you say it? Karakora? Kora. Karakora. Karakora. So this is Karakora. So that image, go back one more time to Karakora. So that's a legitimate image. That's not AI generated. No, no. This is these guys standing in clearly what looks like megalithic stone stacked on top of each other. Clearly man-made. Yes, clearly man-made because look, you see. Yes. You see the blocks. Yeah, you see the blocks. It's fucking nuts.

2:08:41No, but okay, we can understand that it's possible, maybe, it's possible to build something like that. Sure, it's possible. But the purpose. Right, the purpose and when and who and what civilization. Right, like who did that? That is insane. What even is that? What even is that? Yeah. I mean, there's ropes that go across and that's what you're seeing. and you've seen this where's his arm and where does the rope go to well he's got his arm posted on the side of that wall and that rope goes across and you're just not seeing it because of the darkness is that like he's leaning against something there too it looks like he's got his hand on that wall that opening there's an opening in that shaft so what else is next in this in this presentation ok which way should I go ok we go upstairs let's see go back in Tepe then we have Gubbio And here we have the Osiris shafts.

2:09:35We use this shaft, the Osiris shaft, like a benchmark because we are able to understand the effectiveness of our technique that is able to retrieve the shape of the Osiris shaft. Why the Osiris shaft? Because it's a benchmark that we know exactly how it is. It's established. So it accurately depicts the Osiris shaft. Yes. What else? Okay, let's go there. Okay. 43, 43. Yes, this is the Sun Gotthard tunnel. And here I made an exploration using my technique in order to retrieve the shape of the railway tunnel, that it is approximately two kilometers below the mountain. and the slide 44, we can understand that in this case, the Alps, the mountain resonates like a crystal.

2:10:43So you are seeing, you are watching the mountain in the vibrational domain. It's like a photograph, a photo picked up or synthesized by sound. And in that case, we can see the slide 45 and 46. We are detecting the tunnel. The tunnel, yes, that's the railway tunnel that is located below that. Wow. So this is just more proof of the accuracy of the technique. Yes. Yes. This is some really stunning stuff. Yes, I can explain to you other experiments. We can go starting from slide 36. Okay, slide 36. This is a dam. It is a very important dam. It is the Mosul Dam that is located in Iraq. It's very huge.

2:11:48It's 300 meters tall, has a height of 300 meters, and 3 kilometers from one part to the other part of the dam. So it contains a huge amount of water from the upper side. There is the water that contains and below there is the river that the water comes out from the reservoir that is on top. Why the Mosul Dam? The Mosul Dam has a problem. it has been built on a bed of gesso how you say and gipsum is while it is in contact of water it melts so the Mosul Dam is dangerous because it has a serious problem of stabilization in this case there are a lot of that's called satellite methods and synthetic virtual radar methods that are devoted to perform the so-called infrastructure monitoring.

2:12:59And in this case, the Mosul Dam is crucial to be observed by radar. In this case, I wanted to see this slide 37, please, here. Inside the dam, look, there is a tunnel. the red line the tunnel and here we have we have we have people that are working inside the tunnel and the task was my technique is possible to detect the tunnel we go in slide 38 ok and we see on the right top there is the tunnel just to explain you where you see red the vibration energy is high so it's red when you see blue the vibration energy is low okay and inside the tunnel because you have the air you don't have vibration so it's low and so you see the tunnel okay and so we were also able to detect slide 39 also the principal facility that are located inside the dam, which are the turbines.

2:14:21The turbines. The turbines. Right. And other stuff. And all the mechanical machines. This is all the mechanical machines that are located inside. All right. So it's showing the accurate shape of the turbines as well. So this is just more proof that this technique works. Yes. And so we go slide 31. On slide 31, okay, this is the Grand Sasso. How nice is this? It's for me very nice because I born here. This is the particle collider. Yeah. Inside the mountain, in the core of the mountain, there is the laboratory here. and the task was can I detect the facility that is inside the mountain. And so we are now in the slide 32 and 33.

2:15:21And we can see the facility. That is ENFN is the Instituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare. You see the shape of it in there? Yeah, National Institute of Nuclear Physics, the Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics. And that's more than a kilometer deep into the mountain? 1.4. And, yes, in slide 35, we can see the laboratory. Wow. Yeah, this is the laboratory. That's crazy. That's crazy. So using your techniques, you get an accurate depiction of the dimensions of this laboratory. Yeah. Wow. And that triangle is called the interferometer. So when you have two lasers that goes together and you can study the pattern, the interference pattern that coherent signals are generating, you can use an interferometer.

2:16:27And that's the interferometer. Wow. This is all amazing stuff. It's amazing. And I feel like we're at the beginning of a very fascinating journey. Yeah. And I think that your work and this research and all the controversy is good. All the controversy around it is just going to make more people talk about it, more people discuss it, and more people understand. And it just seems to me that the more they research it, the more the mystery opens up and that it is, without a doubt, one of the most astounding discoveries in human history. Yes. So thank you, Joel. Congratulations on discovering it. And thank you so much for all your hard work because, I mean, like I said, it's to me one of the most fascinating subjects.

2:17:12And, you know, what Graham always speaks of is that we are a species with amnesia. Yes. And I agree with this, with that. And, you know, it's one of the reasons why so many people are mad at him. It's because he was right. He was right in the 1990s, you know. And as time goes on, he is being proven more and more to be correct. And things just seem to keep getting older. Yes. It's amazing. Thank you so much for being here. I really, really appreciate your time and I appreciate your work. Thank you for inviting me. My pleasure. Let's do it again when more stuff comes out. Okay. I'm here. If anybody wants to find more about this, where would you send them to?

2:17:51Is there a website that would give them more information if they want to do a deep dive? Yes. I have a personal website, which is harmonicsar.com, and I publish the... Say that again, harmonics... Sar.com, yes. Harmonicsar. Synthetic aperture radar is SAR. So harmonicsar.com. Yes. Filippo Biondi. I'm me. You're the man. Thank you, sir. Thank you. I really appreciate you being here. Thank you. Bye, everybody.

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