#2459 - Jim Breuer

16:19Jim Breuer:He ran SNAC, which is this thing that helps people detect testing and use supplements that are illegal. Sure. But I don't think that was known by everybody. I think they kept it all on the DL because there was such a blight that was attached to steroid use. You were a cheater, especially in baseball, which is like the American pastime. Be a cheater in baseball. Well, I'll tell you this.

16:45Joe Rogan:I remember at that time because you were in TV world, TV world, and you attract all different types.

16:55Jim Breuer:Dude, we did a show. Well, you weren't on the show back then. On hardball. Barry Bonds was on Hardball. Yeah. He was on one of the episodes.

17:04Joe Rogan:Yes, I remember seeing it. Because we'd sit and watch. My wife and I would be like, we tried out for the same thing. Well, you were in the pilot. Yes, I was in the pilot, but I rooted for everyone I knew. I was just like, oh my God.

17:16Jim Breuer:You've always been like that.

17:17Joe Rogan:I loved that. But back then, a couple years later, he'd come friends with certain type of people and lawyers, agents, blah, blah, blah. And I remember one night hanging out, kind of like, wow, this is so-and-so who, I don't want to get into names and all that, but they would go, you want to hear some crazy phone calls? Like, what do you mean? It's like, boom. And they told me 75%. And I'm like, what? 75 % of what? PEDs are on steroids. So I'm like, what? 75, 80 % baseball. I'm like, come on. There's no way. Come on. And then he'd play a phone message. And I didn't want to say this for years because I thought I'd get whacked.

18:08Joe Rogan:Hey, I love you. So I remember them going, here, listen to this. And you would hear like the wives of my life going, if he hits me one more time, I'm reporting And all you, I'm going to turn it. And then he played the next one. Like, hey, man, we've got a big series coming up. The Dodgers, I need my shit. Like, now. I need it by blah, blah, blah.

18:33Jim Breuer:And who is this person calling?

18:35Joe Rogan:These were ball players calling their representation.

18:41Jim Breuer:So the representation meaning their agents and lawyers. So maybe the agents are the people that hooked them up with the people that had the juice.

18:49Joe Rogan:Which makes sense. And then they would talk.

18:50Jim Breuer:But the agents want money.

18:52Joe Rogan:They want money. So what's the best way to get money? Guy's got to hit home runs. He's got to hit home runs. He's got to start belting the ball. He makes money. I make money. That makes sense. And then we all make money. And then I start telling, I'm not saying this happened, but if you're an owner, I'm like, hey, Joe, I'm just telling you right now, this guy, you want to keep an eye on him, he's going to start jacking 20 extra home runs. Really? How's he going to do that? You'll find out. We don't need to talk about that. But next year, if you've got XYZ budget, I think he'd like to play it. So there's a lot at play.

19:25Joe Rogan:Right. And now you're infiltrating children because now you're going to the farm leagues and you can't make it unless you start doing that. But that's why I say someone like this guy with a long network, there's so many tentacles all over the place. But you always need the fall guy. Right. I mean, was he the demon?

19:47Jim Breuer:Yeah. But there's a lot of demons there. Did you see that one, the email that I sent you, Jamie, where he's talking about children for sex? Do you remember, you know the email I sent you, Jamie? I sent it the other day. I was like, well, that pretty much sums it up then because he actually said it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Find that. I sent it to you in a text message. This one's crazy. This one's crazy. I've heard some bad things. So he's having a conversation with a woman who says that she heard that there's a place. Here it is. She's very emotional, kind, loving, sharp. I think you can become friends to her.

20:21Jim Breuer:So here it says a friend Aliza told me about a project She's doing researching a really bad guy that gets children for sex sent to his island She almost fainted when I told her that person is me Wow

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20:41Jim Breuer:Yeah, okay, so that's just there There's no way to interpret that any other way. That person is me. That person is me. Children for sex sent to his island. That person is me. Holy shit. That one is fucking crazy. That's 2018. So, yeah, this has been going on for... So this is like right before he got arrested, right?

21:13Joe Rogan:Supposedly. But when did he get arrested?

21:15Jim Breuer:2019.

21:17Joe Rogan:2019, right?

21:17Jim Breuer:What month? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like it was May, maybe. So this was like, but there was an investigative reporter that was at the head of all this. This lady that was really pushing because she had found out about his sweetheart deal in 2008. And she started gathering information and pushing it. And that's what led ultimately, I think, to his being arrested. Or what I would say is the front of like, hey, we're doing things. Well, if there's a different body that the autopsy had, it makes you question like, was he ever in that cell? Or was this person who's in that cell, did they sell this person as Jeffrey Epstein?

22:00Jim Breuer:Right. Well, you imagine the guy in the cell going, I am not. No, no, no. I'm not. No, no, no. My name is Harvey. I live on the Upper East Side. I don't know what happened. I got a speeding ticket. And now, next thing you know, I can't go home.

22:14Joe Rogan:Yes. And this poor guy's just getting railed hard before they're sitting there and he's tying them up on the thing. And he's just, yeah, you're going to spin them around for a couple hours.

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23:36Joe Rogan:He was a big figure It's a big to do Yeah Jeffrey what you do What about the children Care to comment on the children What are you doing With the children Jeffrey

23:46Jim Breuer:Why did you need 330 gallons of sulfuric acid They didn't know about that What are chickens What are chickens What is jerky What is jerky Well no one knew Any of that stuff back then If he was alive now For sure those questions Would be shouted out What is pizza and pasta

24:01Joe Rogan:What happened at Obama's White House?

24:06Jim Breuer:What is pizza? Pizza's mentioned like 900 times. It's a little weird. Clearly as a code.

24:12Joe Rogan:Clearly as a code. You know how crazy I felt for the longest time? Like, I'd just be in a coffee shop. And I'm like, you guys don't know. You're like, oh, yeah, Jim's a little wacky. But now it's coming up.

24:25Jim Breuer:Did you see that video we played the other day of this guy at the airport just yelling out? Yes. You guys are going out about your business? No, it's a guy. He's like the files have been released.

24:33Joe Rogan:Yeah. I saw that they were they were going and you're all just gone about your business. The files are released.

24:40Jim Breuer:Kids are being tortured, which but my question was like, what do you want me to do? What do you I'm flying Atlanta? What do you want me to do? I got a gig. That is what you want me to scream and yell at everybody get arrested. How's I going to fix anything? This all happened 10 years ago. What do you want me to do? And what do you do at this point?

25:00Joe Rogan:Because it's... We don't do anything at the airport. At the airport, right? I got to get home.

25:05Jim Breuer:My wife's mother... But that's like a lot of people online. They're very performative. Screaming and yelling. We're going to do this. We're going to do... What do you want us to do?

25:14Joe Rogan:That's their jurisdiction.

25:16Jim Breuer:It's outrage farming.

25:18Joe Rogan:Outrage farming. I like that. You're outrage farming. Imagine going to that length, though. You're just like, you know what? I really didn't like anything you said, and you have no right being— Like, who's taking the time? Have you ever done that?

25:33Jim Breuer:No, but it's people that are trying to farm for attention. They're trying to get extra attention. Or it's people that just aren't that good. They're not that smart.

25:44Joe Rogan:When's the last time you engaged with anyone online that was like, Rogan, you're this or you're that? That's been a long time.

25:53Jim Breuer:Long time, right? I don't know. Yeah.

25:55Joe Rogan:Long time.

25:56Jim Breuer:But up until that time. Bro, I watch fucking Luis J. Gomez do it every day. I'm like, Luis, what are you doing? What are you doing, you psycho? Stop fucking arguing with people online and calling them losers.

26:09Joe Rogan:Yeah. No.

26:10Jim Breuer:And comparing your life to theirs. Like, don't do it. Because you don't know what you're dealing with. You have no clue what you're dealing with. Not only that, it's like it's a bad frequency to get your brain caught up in. There's so many other things to think about. Correct. There's so much going on in the world. There's so many interesting things in life. And the problem with social media algorithms and any kind of algorithm that you get sucked into is it funnels you into this way. This is what the information that you're getting most of the time. You're getting a lot of bad information, a lot of outrage farming.

26:43Jim Breuer:and your frequencies, like the way your brain thinks, funnels down that pathway and you kind of lose control of it instead of having access to all the wonderful things in the world. There's a lot of amazing, fascinating, curiosity-driven people out there that are, you know, making videos about all kinds of stuff. And you could instead pay attention to that stuff, but you get trapped.

27:08Joe Rogan:I used to say that even just about news. I remember being a kid, And if you look at every newspaper and you just watch all the headlines for the news, everything is – I would sit there and go, okay, something bad happened down here in Brooklyn. Why do you spend every page or every headline of something negative? You had 8 to 10 million people living in this vicinity. Why do you harp on just propagandizing and looking at the dark? Because they're trying to make money.

27:37Jim Breuer:It's really simple. It's really simple. All these major newspapers are struggling, all of them, badly. And the only way to get attention is clickbait now because most of the stories that you get are online. Very few people are buying physical newspapers anymore. No more. They're dead. Yeah. Not only that, during COVID, I think they kind of nuked all of their credibility. There's a lot of people that just feel like they're all bullshit artists now.

28:02Joe Rogan:It was an incredible exposing of all information during COVID.

28:07Jim Breuer:What is this? They say this video, he sent this to two women from detention? From prison. All right, let's see. It's weird.

28:19Joe Rogan:I had to borrow the scotch tape to get the pictures on the wall.

28:23Jim Breuer:Okay. So Darren... Why do you have to see that thing over his face? I don't know. Pretend I'm talking to Darren. Hi, Darren. You guys have a good time. You can see I have a little sore on my face that I got from some black guy trying to kiss me. It's really disgusting. It was fun.

28:42Joe Rogan:Oh, it's really, oh. Anyway, I have pictures up on the wall. I had to borrow the scotch tape to get the pictures on the wall. I'll talk to you guys later.

28:54Jim Breuer:Okay, so that's him in detention. He said somebody tried to kiss him. He seems pretty calm when he almost got raped. Dude, it's pre-protection.

29:04Joe Rogan:All right, so listen. Come in the room and say that somebody tried to kiss you. You've got to be into it. That's take number 12. Like, God damn it, Jeffrey. God damn it. Do you need a Coke? Do you need a wine? I need you mostly into this.

29:17Jim Breuer:You don't seem like a guy in jail. A guy who hasn't been sleeping well. He seems pretty well rested.

29:21Joe Rogan:So, you know, my whole life is bad right now. They're bringing me in. Some guy tried to kiss me. It's kind of a bummer. Cut! What? That wasn't good? All right, let me try it again. All right, doing it right now.

29:32Jim Breuer:All right, lighting good? Here we go. The best intelligence organizations that can overthrow foreign governments would probably have a plan if they wanted to get the guy out and pretend that somebody else died in his place.

29:47Joe Rogan:It's been from the beginning of time, no?

29:50Jim Breuer:Yeah.

29:50Joe Rogan:From the beginning of time.

29:52Jim Breuer:From the beginning of time. Well, especially with modern stuff. Because you can, with modern masks. Remember the tall Biden? There's not a chance in hell that was Biden.

30:02Joe Rogan:I feel so redeemed My wife used to get so mad at me So mad at me My kids would get so mad at me And I would say it everywhere I'd say it on stage, I'd say it on social media I'd go, I don't care what you say That is not Joe Biden Yeah, there was also that in the files too Call me crazy And now all of a sudden they're like, oh no He was executed Isn't that what they said? Executed?

30:30Jim Breuer:That seems sus Bro, I went down that rabbit hole. There's a lot of those emails are just emails, right? First of all, Epstein is dealing with prostitutes, people that are willing to get prostitutes. He's dealing with a lot of criminals and weirdos, and a lot of those people are probably full of shit, right? So just because somebody writes something in an email doesn't mean it's a fact. However, when you see the video of tall Biden, pull out tall Biden. Come on, man. He grew. He grew, and then he went back. They might have put him on some shit and then he shrunk back down again.

31:04Joe Rogan:And his eye color would change. This one, right? Yes, that one. Look at the difference. He's like 6 '9". Look at it. That's a robot. Send out the robot.

31:15Jim Breuer:You got a video of him walking out there? Because when he walks, look how long his fucking legs are. Look how tall he is. This is absolutely insane. Who's watching this going, yeah, no, that's the same guy. Not only is he taller, but he moves better. He's more relaxed when he moves. It was, Joe. It's like a guy doing an impression of Joe Biden. Yes, look at his. But look how long this guy's legs are. This is what's crazy. Rewind that again, please. Here it is. It's good. It's starting from the beginning. It's good. It's right there. It's good. Just play it. Yeah, it's starting from the. So here's when he walks out.

31:54Jim Breuer:Look at how long his leg. This guy's a basketball player. He can look how tall he is first president. I can dunk. I mean, just stop. Pause it right there. Right there. Pause it. Pause it. Just the physical frame. Yep. When you look at the length of his legs, that's extraordinary. That's not like Jeffrey Epstein's prostate testicles. No, he's a whole different. That is a tall man. Like there's no way that's a short man. There's no there's no way that's a normal. How tall was Joe Biden supposedly? Six feet? Six one maybe? How tall was he supposed to be?

32:30Joe Rogan:The real Joe Biden. Tall was Joe Biden. The pre-2019. I said was like he's dead. I'm saying he's dead. I'm saying he's long gone wherever he is.

32:41Jim Breuer:Six feet. Okay. I'm putting it out there. Go back again. Six feet tall. Okay. Six feet is like, you know, on the tall-ish side. That guy's taller than six feet. That is a tall man. Look at the proportions from his legs to the width of his shoulders, the length of his legs. That's a very tall man. Who's the casting director for this? I mean, just being charitable, that's a three inches taller man at least.

33:07Joe Rogan:Maybe the other Joe Biden got sick that day, his wife died, that actor died, and they're like, we need another Joe Biden quick. And then this one showed up like, oh my God. Just forget it. People believe everything.

33:20Jim Breuer:Send them out. If you have a guy who's the president and he's known to be of poor health, there's probably going to be times where he's supposed to make a public appearance that's not that important, but it's important to just show his face. Well, you got to keep him in a hospital bed somewhere. So you get a guy and you put the mask on him. Did you ever see the walk? The walk? Yeah, his shuffle. That guy doesn't walk like that. It's a robot. That guy walks like an athlete. It's a robot. Wait a minute. What? He looks like a robot. No, he looks like a guy with bad knees and a bad back. I'm stupid back.

33:52Jim Breuer:You think it's a robot? I'm taking - I don't know what it is! No, it's an old man who can't walk good. I'm putting my chips in. Do you think you can program a robot to walk like an old man? Have you - it didn't look like an old man. Get the video. Jim, the robots are not that good yet. Trust me. I'm friends with Elon. The robots, they're good, but they're not - they look like robots. They don't look like humans yet.

34:15Joe Rogan:You put a little suit and jacket on him, put him up, and you just videotape for three seconds. No, why would you do that? Three seconds. It's a guy. All right, no, I agree. This one's a guy. But there's other ones from like... What is this one, Jamie?

34:29Jim Breuer:Same one? That's the same one. There's a better version of it?

34:31Joe Rogan:I was just replaying it.

34:33Jim Breuer:Okay. No, that's not a robot. That's a guy.

34:35Joe Rogan:There's ones where he's walking on the lawn, and his legs... Like, what does he do with his legs? It's crazy looking.

34:41Jim Breuer:Jim, like, neurologists have looked at this. He walks like a guy with dementia. That's how they walk. My dad had dementia. He didn't walk anything like that. Not all people with dementia walk like that, but it's typical of the way people walk when they don't have control of their body anymore. Like he fell down a lot. Like it's very odd.

34:58Joe Rogan:The bicycle went down.

35:00Jim Breuer:I got it. It's a lot of things. He fell down walking upstairs. Remember?

35:03Joe Rogan:Yeah. I remember. Three times. I remember. I. You think it's a robot? I didn't say it's a hundred percent robot. I'm saying I will put my chips in. I'm at the poker table and they're like you're really going in all in that that was not Joe Biden I'm going all in that's not Joe Biden never was

35:25Jim Breuer:from 2020 on it never was I don't think this is a productive line of conversation this is me I get it yeah watch this but that's he's walking in sand and he's old as fuck dude he's walking in sand I get it If I walk in sand and I'm drunk, I look just like that. He's had a lot of blood thinners there.

35:48Joe Rogan:Maybe they got to his head. I don't know. He's got a stint.

35:51Jim Breuer:I just, Jamie, I'm going to send you something. This is state of the art right now when it comes to robots. And it's pretty fucking good, man. Pretty fucking good. But it's not that. It's, these are robots that can actually do martial arts. It's very impressive.

36:07Joe Rogan:I feel like I just saw something like this. It was frightening to a degree.

36:10Jim Breuer:Yeah, it's from China. So go full screen on this. This is really interesting. So you got these kids. They get out there. And these robots do martial arts with them. Like, look at this. It's really wild, man. I mean, it's pretty human.

36:28Joe Rogan:Now, if they had suit and ties on, they can pass for a president.

36:33Jim Breuer:Not yet. Not yet. But look at these things. They can do backflips. Like, this is crazy. They do wheel kicks. Come on. It's really nuts, man. So just imagine these things with fucking ARs just running into buildings, gunning people down. Because that's what's coming. Bro, there's a place. They're going to be bulletproof. They're going to have night vision, heat vision, insane hearing.

36:58Joe Rogan:There's a place in Florida, bro, that have the, out in the Everglades, it's like this farmland. You never see anyone there, but they have the mechanical robot dogs patrolling everywhere and spraying the fields. The dogs spray the fields? There's like all different types of machines that come up and they have these dogs that patrol everywhere. It's wild. You can buy one. I never saw any of that. This episode is brought to you by Intuit TurboTax. Doing your taxes the old school stress spiral way, endless paperwork, confusion, and unsure if you're even doing it right. Yeah, we're leaving that in the past.

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39:20Joe Rogan:You're like the movie The Fifth Element when the chick came and she got all the information. I'm always fascinated. You have so much information. like brilliant insight information who's left on on your list where you're like i gotta i want to look at i need to speak with so and so oh there's a ton of people there's always new

39:46Jim Breuer:uh you know like i get a list of uh every week multiple days a week i get a list of potential guests and so i go over the list and uh a lot of it are scientists a lot of it is like people that are doing groundbreaking research on like neurodevelopment genetics there's a lot of them that come up that are cosmologists uh that are working on you know just bizarre theories it's it's there's always someone that's working on some you know like very high level of some esoteric line of, you know, some kind of discipline that I've got very little information about. There's always interesting people.

40:34Joe Rogan:That blows my mind. Yeah. It blows my mind. I try talking to anyone, even some of the words, I'm not educated very well. I mean, they start saying certain words and I'm just, I'm already -

40:44Jim Breuer:I'm not formally educated very well. I mean, I only went to college for three years and I was barely paying attention. I never paid attention. I was only going to college so that people didn't think I was a loser. Really? Yeah. I was doing it while I was fighting. And then I was doing it for a little bit while still doing stand-up. But I was only doing it so that no one thought I was a loser. Really? Yeah. Was that like a home thing? No, it was where I grew up. You know, everybody was going to college. I went to school at a really good high school, Newton South in Massachusetts. And a lot of the kids were, you know, real ambitious and wanted to go to college and get degrees.

41:17Jim Breuer:And I did not want to have a job. I was like, what am I doing? I was like very feral. And at the time, all I wanted to do was compete. I was just doing martial arts tournaments all the time. And there was no money in that. So I was like, what's my career going to be? Like, what am I doing? So this is a weird period. So I said, let me just go to college so that no one thinks I'm a loser. So I took a year off school. So I graduated at 17. So for the next year, I didn't go to school at all. I just trained.

41:50Joe Rogan:I don't know the story. So when did you go, I'm going to start doing stand-up? When I was 21. Wow.

41:57Jim Breuer:And did you have that desire before then? Not really. No. I was a fan of stand-up. I love stand-up. I was talked into doing it by my friend Steve. He's a good buddy of mine, Steve Graham. Because I would make people laugh in the locker room. It was like he was a guy I did Taekwondo with. And he was like, dude. And another good friend, Ed Shorter. Same thing. Ed and Steve were two guys who I was real tight with that, you know, I would make fun of everybody. And just we were always just joking around. Right. And I wanted a lot of attention. I was young. We all did. Yeah. I did. So that was that's how.

42:30Jim Breuer:And then I went to an open mic night and I realized, oh, these people are all they suck. They're beginners. Like, oh, you could be a beginner. And then I thought about it just like martial arts. If you just work at it, you can get better at it. You know, so if you're just like a little bit funny, if you can just kind of figure out what it is about you. I was like this is fascinating it was like a whole new puzzle hmm but I didn't know if I could ever do it for a living I was really so confused when I was 21 because I had really kind of decided to stop fighting And I was still doing it a little bit, but I had like one foot in and one foot out, which is not good And then I didn't have any prospects like what am I gonna?

43:05Jim Breuer:I'm already 21 Like I should have already graduated from college by now or be close or getting ready to work on a master's I should be doing something like a lot of the people that I went to high school with or I should have a trade like a lot of my buddies that went into carpentry or electricity. You know, there's I didn't have a career other than teaching.

43:26Joe Rogan:So within a couple years, you start – because you and I both fairly quickly started getting in good positions. Because if you were 21, I'm going to say by 25, 26, you're on hardball. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, we were really young. Crazy.

43:49Jim Breuer:Crazy lucky. Fast that happened. Yeah, it happened stupid fast. It happened stupid fast and it was stupid lucky. Because I didn't have any aspirations to ever be on TV. There was no part of me that wanted to be an actor on TV. Zero. It was never an ambition at all. Which probably helped me. Because when I went in and talked to the people and did auditions and shit, it wasn't like, oh my god, this is my dream. It was like, so what do you guys want me to do? Okay. Yeah, I can play a baseball player. Okay. And they just loved the fact that I had a background in athletics. I knew a lot about.

44:24Joe Rogan:You also would murder like none other at the Laugh Factory. You would go up, and I remember the Disney executives, because that's who did that. I remember them sitting in the back watching you. You did the lions, whatever. The tigers mating, and it would just, the place would lose their shit. It was captivating. Watch. It was howling funny. And I'll never forget just looking at the executives. I don't remember their name. I just remember he had a mustache. He had a dark mustache, dark hair. He's from Colorado. He was like, oh, my God. Joe is just so goddamn funny. I can't take it. So, I mean, wow, that's pretty awesome in that short period of time.

45:20Joe Rogan:I wish I had – no, I won't say I wish I had your mentality then. I have it now, meaning back then I had the desire like, ah, I'm going to start buying satin clothes. I'm going to start getting nice clothes. Satin clothes is weird. The first time I went out there, I bought satin blue pants and satin blue. I was like, I'm going to be in Hollywood. I was so retarded. So retarded. Well, but you had this whole other – I remember seeing you, and you were like – we were at some hotel, and you were just so – you're like, yeah, I'm going to go play pool and work out. I'm like, what? No. I'm looking for rock stars and actors on Melrose.

46:10Joe Rogan:And you're like, yeah, well, I'm not doing that. I'm going to the gym, and I'm working. I'm like, you're going to miss out.

46:19Joe Rogan:but I really admired I loved and I admired that about you so much

46:26Jim Breuer:oh thanks but I was never interested in like Hollywood stuff it just was not that interesting to me to be around a bunch of famous people and feel weird I was like I'd just rather be around normal people I'd rather play pool rather go to the gym

46:39Joe Rogan:I was like that until I was around famous people and then you're like

46:46Jim Breuer:this is uncomfortable I want to go home I tried to move back to New York I would have moved back to New York except I had a lease I had a lease on an apartment when Hardball got cancelled I was ready to go back to New York I was like fuck this place this is too uncomfortable for me and again I never had any aspirations to be famous I definitely didn't have any aspirations to act it was just money they gave me a lot of money to be on a sitcom and I was like okay I just couldn't believe how much money you could get in a week like this is crazy. It was crazy Yeah, it was like more money than I made in a year and I could make it in a week I was like this is nuts especially because I went from broke yeah to being on a sitcom

47:25Joe Rogan:Yeah, I remember those same things like you're not making any money And then all of a sudden here you're on 25 to 50 thousand dollars a week You just come in camera block here and there you don't even have to be the star. It was bananas

47:37Jim Breuer:But then when I got on news radio, I was like, oh, this is a whole different kind of a thing. This is a really good show with really good writing and really good actors. I was like, this is fun. That I enjoyed a lot. But the world of acting is long days, and it's not what I like to do the most. So it was like, it's great. But you can get sucked into that velvet prison and then, you know, you'd be like I'd be talking to my friends. I'd be like, yeah, I just did a week in Florida. It was fucking awesome. Went in there on Wednesday and I was realizing like these guys are selling out on the road and they're traveling all the time.

48:17Jim Breuer:They're having all this fun. I'm like they're doing what I wanted to do, which was like stand up like on the road. I was only doing like small sets in town. I was only doing like 15 minutes at the Laugh Factory, 15 minutes at the store. You know, it's like the real comedy was like headlining, doing an hour, really developing your act. Right. And it was like I enjoyed doing news radio, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed being around comics, doing sets, being at the clubs, laughing all the time. It's like a different kind of people. The actor people were all worried about what the other actor people were doing.

48:54Jim Breuer:they were all worried about like like what rating we were what number we were in the ratings correct

49:01Joe Rogan:yes and that's all they would talk about dude we were at a table once and when they were all

49:06Jim Breuer:bitching about how you know we were on you know whatever night we were on we moved like nine times over five years and back then there was no internet so you couldn't tell people that you're not on monday night anymore you're not on whatever it was and so they were all bitching and getting pissed because Sex and the City was on this time slot and the single guy was in this time slot. And if we were there, we'd be number two or whatever. Right. And I was like, guys, last time I checked, we're on TV. Yeah. Like, this is a dream. Yeah, we're not number one. But we have a funny show and we're on TV.

49:40Jim Breuer:Just fucking enjoy the ride.

49:42Joe Rogan:Yeah. And it was a great show. It was a lot of fun.

49:44Jim Breuer:It was a great show and it did well. But yeah, that world just never ends. But it was just so lucky to get it so quick. You know, I was on news radio six years into doing stand-up. Yeah, and it didn't make any sense to me But it's also why I wasn't nervous about it. It was like it seemed so normal to me Yeah, okay. This is a job. I'm doing but it was because I didn't want to do it Not not that I didn't want to do it, but because it wasn't a wasn't like in my ultimate dream Well, that's that made me laugh.

50:12Joe Rogan:I saw you years later. I don't know if it was if it was Fear Factor or whatever and someone snarkily in a snarky way were like why would you take this? Because they're paying me fucking retarded money. They offered fucking retarded money. You wouldn't do this for whatever the episode. It made me laugh. You gave the real answer. If I offered you whatever program I'm going to offer you I don't know 20 million for two years you're gonna go I'm not doing that that's ridiculous why would I use why

50:50Jim Breuer:would I leave my sanitation job to money equals freedom and that's what people need to understand like if you can make a pile of money you get fuck you money and then the key is don't be chasing fuck your mother and fuck your family and correct the world money correct stick with fuck you money But just make sure you say fuck you So make sure you don't do things you don't want to do And so when Fear Factor came along I initially took it because I thought it was going to be cancelled immediately I was like I was in a development deal With NBC And they sent me this thing And I was like what the fuck is this They're going to stick dogs on people Like I was laughing I'm pretty sure I was stoned When I first got the pitch And I read I go this is hilarious And I don't know if my manager even wanted me to do it.

51:40Jim Breuer:I don't remember. I think they probably wanted me to hold out for a sitcom. And I was like, are you fucking kidding me? This is hilarious. Let me meet with them. And they didn't like me at first because I came in and was making fun of it. And they thought it should be scary because this was fear factor. Right. And I was just joking. Like I came into the meeting. I was probably stoned. I came into the meeting and I was just cracking jokes about everything and laughing and they didn't but then David Hurwitz who's a friend of mine Who was one of the producers on the show? He's like no no no look the whole world's gonna be laughing at us Yes, it's way better if the host is laughing.

52:18Jim Breuer:Yes, it's way better. Yes

52:20Joe Rogan:Like let's just try it like the lunacy of what these what lengths these people go to They were gonna go live like a sportscaster or something, you know what I mean?

52:29Jim Breuer:Here we are in fear factor. Fear is not a factor for you. Mom of the night. Maggie from Wisconsin is going to get in the tank. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. So it was just luck. A lot of luck, man. A lot of weird luck. I've had a lot of weird luck my whole life. Even coming here is weird luck. Even opening up the club, weird luck. Why do you say that? Because a lot of things have to happen in order for this club to exist, right? A lot of things have to happen. First of all, the COVID thing has to happen, right? And it has to happen in California where they have very restrictive laws and everything gets locked down.

53:05Jim Breuer:And we can't perform for like – I think the store was shut for a year and a half, man. Are you serious? Yeah. California was nuts with COVID. But over here, like almost immediately you could do shows. Right. Like we were – the Cap City was doing shows and they had people separated before they went under. they just had like the tables moved like six feet apart which was retarded didn't mean anything yeah and then um when we started doing shows at the vulcan that was in like november of 2020 so that was pretty soon after you know the rest of the world was still like completely like california and new york were still completely restrictive and texas was pretty pretty wide open and so So I have to have the kind of money that Spotify gave me.

53:53Jim Breuer:And then I have to be so dumb that I'm in the middle of this giant deal. I'm like, I'm just going to move to Texas. Which they were like, what are you doing? Like, you need to be in L.A. That's where your studio is. That's where the guests are. Right. And I was like, I'm flying like at least two or three people a week out to Los Angeles. I bet I could get them to fly to Texas. Yeah. But it was a dumb gamble. It's like, it's not a smart move. So it has to be like the Spotify money. It has to be everything closed down. And then it has to be the store closed down because the store closed down allowed me to get guys like Adam Eget and, you know, and - From the store?

54:30Jim Breuer:Yeah. All the people that worked at the store came to work for me. That's like one of the big secrets. Jody, the managers, like a lot of the people that are at the mothership came from the store and they were unemployed. Yeah, but I wouldn't take it. I wouldn't - I like your approach as luck. No, but it has to be some luck. It all lined up. Otherwise, it doesn't happen. Because if there's no luck, then if there's no COVID lockdown, then all these comics aren't willing to move here.

54:56Joe Rogan:Correct.

54:57Jim Breuer:Tony Hinchcliffe, Tom Segura, Christina Pazitzky, Brian Simpson, everybody moved here. Right. So the only reason why anybody moved here is because California is locked down. If the store was hopping, they would be like, why would I go to Texas? They wouldn't leave. Why the fuck would I go here? Right. Yeah. So it had to be like a place where you could go. And then you have to have the resources to do something like that. So that has to be like the Spotify thing. It's like so many things have to fall into place where it's that kind of a gamble makes sense. It's a lot of luck, man.

55:31Joe Rogan:It's a lot of luck, but it's also a lot of decision making. and a lot of you you you're very thoughtful and and you're the walk that you walk creates an energy and it's an it's it's it's very powerful it's very inspiring and i do believe in that stuff like the way you've walked most of the life that i've known you has been you're probably And you inspired me so much years and years ago. You came on my radio show and you literally started talking. And you called in. And I remember I just told everyone, just be quiet. Just be quiet and let him go. And just I knew at that moment you were going to be changing culture, if that makes sense.

56:24Joe Rogan:You went into this deep conversation about we are shifting in humanity. And basically you said we're either going to live for truth or you're going to be a liar, like leech type thing. It was very powerful. And I think eventually I was like, you know, put Pink Floyd behind it. Put that on. Oh, yeah. There's a clip of that. It is one of the most, because I wanted the world to hear what you said. It was such a, like no other pastor could say, no one could say it the way you said it. So yes, it is all luck, but I do believe that presence that you put out and that energy, it's, it's trusted and it's, it's a, it's a force that opens doors without even you knowing it because it is all for the good in my belief.

57:23Joe Rogan:But anyway, that's my little compliment for you, Joseph. Well, thank you. That's very kind of you. That's very kind of you.

57:27Jim Breuer:Well, you inspired me too, dude. Because when we first started working together, one of the worst times I ever bombed, ever, was I was headlining when I really shouldn't have been headlining. I really didn't have an hour. And you and I did a weekend together somewhere like West Nyack, New York or something like that. Somewhere yucky, like a Holiday Inn thing. But I did okay every show except the late show Saturday night. you fucking murdered. I do. You murdered. And I remember being so nervous. I was so nervous. And I went on stage nervous and I just ate a dick. And I remember it was like one of the worst bombings I've ever had in my life.

58:05Jim Breuer:And I remember thinking at the time, boy, I got to correct something. First of all, I can never go on stage that nervous again. I was like, what was wrong? What was wrong was instead of laughing at you and going on stage having a good time, I was nervous about my own performance, which is like a self-defeating mentality. Yeah, and I had to realize that. Which is also one of the reasons like it really, my stand-up bumped up a lot after that weekend. It really did because I really worked on it hard because the bombing was bad. The bombing was bad? But this was a bad one. I was supposed to do 45.

58:38Jim Breuer:I bailed at 35. I got in trouble. I was eating dick. Dude, I was eating dick. It was horrible. But the same thing happened when I would take Joey on the road with me. And the reason why I would take Joey on the road with me is because he was so hard to follow. So I said, okay. I thought of it just like training partners. Yes. Like you don't want to spar with a guy who sucks. You want to spar with a guy who's better than you so that you could get to his level. Yes. And so with Joey, Joey was so loose and so free and he was so silly. and I was more rigid and I tried to do more set up punchline stuff but I was you know I was only whatever eight nine years in whatever it was I was still trying to like figure it out and Joey had a rhythm to him he's just so loose and I'm like this is gonna help me let me just take this guy on the road with me first of all he's the best guy to hang out with he's so much fun he seems like I love him to death I never got to hang out with him I only never hung out with Joey I've only get to see him on here and some other places.

59:40Jim Breuer:He's the best. He's so, everybody's like, he's so fun. Like when you're around him, it's all hugs and laughs and he's the party. You bring Joey anywhere, the party's with Joey. When we'd go to dinner, we'd have as much fun at dinner as we would at the show.

59:56Joe Rogan:Right. He's the entertainment.

59:57Jim Breuer:Well, he's just a great social engineer. Like he would like fucking be the maestro that would get everybody going. We would be laughing and then we'd go to the show be have a good time and I learned to laugh at him because he'd be Murdering and I'd learn to take that momentum of laughing at him and carry it into the energy of my performance Yeah So it was like it was a good thing because a lot of people want the opposite They want the guy going on before them to suck so they look like a hero. Yeah, no I don't want that. There's a lot of people out there rocking that fucking I like I like what you said

1:00:34Joe Rogan:I like a guy hitting hard. Yeah. And then the nights, like even I have Brian McKenna opening for me right now. And there's nights, like I think we were in Louisiana. And I was like, oh, shoot, I got to get up. Like, what is he doing? And that makes me go, oh, all right, I got to stay crystal clear. Like, I've got to bring it to this whole level. He's making me, I love if someone makes me work. Loves.

1:00:59Jim Breuer:Well, it's not just that. It's also that the crowd gets their money's worth. Yes. A bunch of people came out to see you. Like, I've gone to see friends that are really good comics that I really love, and then I go to see them, and they have an opening act. I'm like, Jesus Christ. I've got to go to the bathroom. I've got to go sit outside for 20 minutes and wait for this to end.

1:01:20Joe Rogan:That's a bad place to be, whether it's your buddy or not.

1:01:23Jim Breuer:They do it because they want a light opener. Like, Ron White's open about it. Like, he talks about, you better than me, you're getting fired.

1:01:36Jim Breuer:he doesn't give a fuck but his that you know i love ron but he's still out here no but yeah he's out here yeah he's at the club all the time he's there tonight okay yeah ron or tomorrow night rather ron's the best he's the best okay he's the he's another reason why i came here because he was already here ron moved here before the pandemic oh wow yeah he moved here in i think 2018 or 19 somewhere around then and i was like well what you he had a place in beverly hills that he kept still so he'd come back and forth but he was like i love austin you never have to leave if i'm want to fly anywhere it's the middle of the country the people are nice the food's great i was like can i live there no that's what my thought was like i can't live there ron is the type of guy too that he doesn't realize how good he is and how popular he is sometimes he literally

1:02:26Joe Rogan:don't ask me why he called me I remember it was some bizarre connection and he's like hey Jim I keep getting asked to play in London and I went oh you will murder murder in London he's like I don't know I mean I don't know I'm like Ron if you were to play Scotland England Ireland you're gonna have a whole new you're gonna murder please I'm begging you at least just take the gig please just take the gig and this was a couple years ago and apparently he did do it he's like man of course you did especially his style he's funny

1:03:17Jim Breuer:he's very humble though he's a very humble guy he's a great guy He's the best. Well, that's why I like to come in here the first time because what I like about here is I reached a point where I have my following.

1:03:34Joe Rogan:I have my crowd. And if I'm working out stuff, even if it's in an hour, they're going to be patient with me because they like me and they've been on my journey.

1:03:42Jim Breuer:Right.

1:03:43Joe Rogan:But if I were to go into a club and do 15 minutes, a lot of them don't know me. And I remember the first time I came here, I did want to go on stage. I used to go on stage. I'm like, I don't know. I'm like, I'm going on stage. Wow. It was like, okay. Yeah. I'm not. Wow. Seven more minutes. Okay. I didn't even finish my setup yet. This made me, this place made me want to start working harder again and go, hey, man, you got to put the gloves on. Not that I had any lack of confidence of what I put out there for an hour, but those short little 15 minute when they see everybody. It doesn't matter. It's an even playing field.

1:04:27Joe Rogan:It's pretty awesome. It was great.

1:04:29Jim Breuer:That was great about the store too. You'd get a night where you had seven, eight national headliners in a row.

1:04:37Joe Rogan:I saw that and they don't care after a while. It's bringing the funny. I saw someone from a huge sitcom go on stage place loses their mind. Even I was a little like, oh wow. oh wow and about they did the shtick of their character and about five minutes in they were like okay yeah we're done you're gonna you tell jokes or you're just gonna be the tv guy and it's like they don't they've seen everything you gotta come with the goods you gotta work it tv guy thing

1:05:11Jim Breuer:we used to see that all the time in la too well that's what led to kramer that meltdown well that's

1:05:16Joe Rogan:it was yeah that's i didn't want to say i didn't want to say but he he first walked up i was like oh dude i know he would fall down and then after about five seven minutes yeah and this one was at the improv and i'm watching like oh wow oh wow he don't have material he's just wow which is

1:05:38Jim Breuer:crazy they turned on him quick imagine thinking that you could do 15 minutes with no material I just don't understand

1:05:46Joe Rogan:Comics make it look easy You know how many people go How many people have you met That go, you know what You inspired, I'm gonna start doing stand-up Some of them you're like, please don't Yeah, like, okay I'm starting next Here's my friend, they'll send me a set of their first set Comedians make it look like We just walk up and just wing it

1:06:09Jim Breuer:Well, it's also guys used to Performing in front of a live audience when he does a sitcom and everybody loves him. And if he could make people laugh for a minute, he thinks he could probably make people laugh for multiple minutes. Right. Just keep it going. Just do the same thing for 15 minutes.

1:06:24Joe Rogan:And the little side of us are just back then. I root for everyone, but those guys walk off, you're like, go down, all right, John.

1:06:31Jim Breuer:How does that feel?

1:06:32Joe Rogan:There's nothing more.

1:06:33Jim Breuer:Well, we don't like anybody that's half-stepping, right? No. That's like half in, not really doing it.

1:06:39Joe Rogan:Right.

1:06:39Jim Breuer:Like you're just taking up 15 minutes from someone that could be doing it.

1:06:43Joe Rogan:Correct. I used to, do you know Neil Brent, not Neil, Kevin?

1:06:49Jim Breuer:No, I don't know Kevin very well. I've met him, I'm sure. I remember him doing sets in New York back in the day.

1:06:56Joe Rogan:Kevin would get so pissed because, wow, he's a famous guitar player. Oh, my God. John Mayer? Yes, John Mayer.

1:07:07Jim Breuer:So Kevin would come in.

1:07:08Joe Rogan:And he'd come in to the radio and be like, he's going up, he's doing fucking 20 minutes. And he sucks. I can't go to Madison Square Garden and go give me the guitar for 20 minutes. It's my fucking time. Comics would get really edgy. They didn't care who you were. They'd go in, I'd love to listen. He would rant and I would howl listening to rant. And of course, I would prod the tiger once in a while when he'd start going.

1:07:39Joe Rogan:fucking crazy fucking John Mayer alright I get it you play fucking get off the stage oh my god

1:07:49Jim Breuer:yeah comics are very territorial about the art form when someone tries to do it that's not a comic they automatically kind of reject them I'm always like give him a chance never know never fucking know never know never know a guy who's been acting but really always wanted to do stand up might have some good ideas and might really throw themselves into it. It's possible. Why would you assume it's impossible? It's possible. It is possible. But the reality in L.A. is a lot of them were doing it because the whole casting thing had dried up for them, right? So they weren't getting brought into shows anymore, so they decided to do stand-up, and they would just, you know, put together an act, like write an act.

1:08:30Jim Breuer:Yeah. Yeah, but it wasn't what they really loved, so it wasn't what they really threw. It's a paycheck. Yeah. It's a little paycheck to get them by. It was a career decision. It was like pivoting, you know? Yeah. I know a couple guys like that.

1:08:43Joe Rogan:Yeah. Sitcom or a sketch show or even like an SNL character. He didn't do stand-up and now they'll tour and try to do whatever.

1:08:52Jim Breuer:So here's an interesting thing I should tell you because you know this person. Okay. I actually made up with Marc Maron the other day. Interesting. I had to help him with something. I had to inform him about something. And he sent me a very sincere message of thank you. And then I sent him a message back that was sincere. And I said, look, I'm not your enemy. I'm sure if we saw, despite our differences, I'm sure if we saw each other, within a few minutes, we'd be laughing and smiling. Which is generally how I interacted with him, for the most part. I had only a few bad interactions with him. and he was pretty honest about how you know maybe it's his own mind and you know it was but it was a it was a very sincere interaction which made me happy it's not good to have enemies no it's

1:09:44Joe Rogan:really not it's not good i've had maybe two or three um that have vocally put out on because i I'm not into the Twitter insulting or going on other programs insulting. If you have an issue, tell me. Right. And then we'll deal with it the way - Right, call me up. The real humans do it. Yeah. And when that whole thing, I have a funny feeling. I know some of his issues were, but I felt, and I put it out there, I felt bad. because for years I didn't have great interaction when I started listen I'm not poo-pooing or whatever but yeah a lot of guys didn't like me they were like who's this animated loudmouth kid coming in here confident and blah blah and he he would always kind of like I'll never forget he'd be like you're gonna woo him you know womb tonight with your he was trying to sabotage you it was a competition thing and and I understood that because I'm still back then you

1:10:50Jim Breuer:He made a whole video about it.

1:10:52Joe Rogan:Correct. Yeah, I saw that video. And so as we went on, I actually was so happy for him once he got WTF. Because you saw, like, wow. He became a different person.

1:11:04Jim Breuer:And he found his niche. And he became friendly. Correct. He was easy to be around. Yeah. He was so, his podcast was killing it. And then he had his show on the IFC. Yes. He was doing great. He was way easier to hang around with. He was incredible. Because all the angst had been removed and he'd become a made man, right? Made man. Yeah.

1:11:23Joe Rogan:And when you're a made man, who cares who else is becoming made man? Exactly. Who cares?

1:11:29Jim Breuer:But then when things go south, then it's hard to maintain that same mindset. It's very easy for me to say, oh, just relax and who cares? Everybody should be happy that all these people are doing well. But if you're not doing well, that jealousy is a natural thing. I've experienced it before. I've experienced it. I know the feeling I've experienced it for brief moments before You know even like, you know eight nine years ago Maybe even it's like there's moments where someone's really killing it. You're like, oh, what the fuck? But then I realized in my head like God as a bitch ass way of thinking don't hold on to that No, we're on our own journey with this is this is our world all but also that same feeling can instead be inspiration Like when you and I worked together and I bombed one of the things that inspired me was not just I gotta get better because I bombed but you Murdered you had that bit about coming home coming home waste and your mother was turned into a demon It was a great demon but it was it was so like animated and big and It didn't make me hate you.

1:12:37Jim Breuer:I loved you. We were great friends. I was like that is so good And it just made me want to get better. So that same feeling that can turn you like, oh, you're going to do woo-woo, you're going to do your bullshit. Instead, I was like, fuck, Jim, you're killing it, man. That's awesome. Yes. I just, I come from a different world. And my world requires other people around you to be as good or better than you. The martial arts world. Like when I was a four-time state champion and I was doing, I wasn't necessarily the best guy in the gym. There's guys in the gym who are better than me. Yeah always there was other guys that were also state champions Some of them were national champions.

1:13:16Jim Breuer:They were better than me, but because I was around those people training hard all the time That's why I got so good. It was because I was around people as Good if not better than me all the time that it elevated my level So I felt the same way about stand-up. I'm like you need those people that make you feel uncomfortable they make you feel like fuck I gotta go to work yes and

1:13:41Joe Rogan:whether it's him or whoever it just it doesn't even have to be the comedy world it's just the world in general it always it's not that sad I wish sometimes people in those positions no matter how successful you are and whatever you define success if someone else is starting to kill it somewhere let them keep your eyes off that

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1:16:20Jim Breuer:Terms apply. Just stay in your own lane.

1:16:24Joe Rogan:I hate that term though. I've heard it. It's not stay in your lane. It's stay in your world of confidence. And I saw a couple people try to take a swipe. And I think it was deeper than that. I think it was A, they were envious, and B, because you had certain people on, and perhaps they were angry because they're still lumped into how they define themselves to certain gangs that their allegiance goes to. Yeah, ideological capture. A hundred percent. How dare he have -

1:16:59Jim Breuer:Don't platform that person.

1:17:00Joe Rogan:Don't platform this one, and don't platform that one, and don't platform - Matter of fact, I would even hear chatter like this. I would never.

1:17:08Jim Breuer:And I'd go, yes, you would. Because— Well, if you wouldn't, then you would never be me in the first place. So what are you worried about? We're different human beings. Correct. The point is I understand those feelings. I do. I understand those feelings of anger and those feelings of jealousy, of resentment. It is absolutely normal, but it is a bitch-ass way to think. And I've thought those ways. I've had bitch ass thinking in my life. I 100 percent. So I get it. I understand it. It's normal. But what these people need to hear that I needed to learn myself is that that not only does not help you, it hurts you.

1:17:49Jim Breuer:But the same exact experience can instead be inspiring to you and that will help you. And you're going to be uncomfortable with comparing yourself to someone who's better than you. But that uncomfortable feeling is what leads to growth. It's really important. It's good. It's good for you But what's not good for you is to try to dismiss that person and shit on that person Like even if someone's doing something that I don't like I don't like their style So what I don't care There's a lot of music. I have teenage girls. Oh when they listen to music. They love it I don't like it, but it doesn't mean it's not good.

1:18:27Jim Breuer:They fucking love it.

1:18:29Joe Rogan:They love it

1:18:29Jim Breuer:There's a lot of guys that are into jazz. I don't like it. But it doesn't mean it's bad. No. It's great for some people. It's their art. It's like everybody has a thing that you're into and everybody has a different style. So if someone's doing something that you don't enjoy, you don't have to hate them. It doesn't mean – that's not beneficial to you. It doesn't help you at all.

1:18:51Joe Rogan:I could sum what you said by you can have your bitch-ass feelings. Yeah. Just don't have your bitch ass emotions and act on. Don't act bitch ass. Just don't act bitch ass. That's when you start having issues, when you put it out in the universe. Because it's still inside you, which we all have it. Yes. It's when you put it out there. Now it's out there. Now everyone looks at you a whole different. I've done that multiple times. I'm never proud of it. Always feel horrible. Exactly Never tour it Always within family Or friends Or something Never I try not to Put it out in the world In the world With names of people Because I don't I don't have any qualms It feels horrible You feel proud of yourself No I feel like A little punk bitch Yes I can't believe it I just did that I know I thought I was mature

1:19:44Jim Breuer:You gave in to those Bitch ass feelings I thought I was mature It's normal Like I remember Someone was telling me that Chris Rock was selling out everywhere after the Will Smith thing. And I swear to God, for like a couple of seconds, I was like, aw, what the? He's selling out instantly, all these arenas? It takes me a couple of days. It's so stupid, so dumb. Like he was the hot ticket because everybody wanted to see him. But it was only for a few seconds. And then I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You fucking silly bitch. Such a dumb way to think. But the problem is you don't – and then the other thing is they think that they're going to diminish that by attacking you.

1:20:30Jim Breuer:But what they don't understand is when you do that publicly, the heat comes for you because now you've set the game in motion. Now you start moving pieces around the board and then people are starting to move pieces against you. and that's the i i felt that even at a time where i felt it was necessary look the whole carlos mancia thing i said that to my friends afterwards i said i don't think i'll ever do anything like that again because just the negative even if it was only 10 of the people that were negative 90 were positive that 10 is just not a good feeling it's a terrible feeling it's not good even though oh, I thought that was a necessary thing to do.

1:21:13Jim Breuer:Because not just him, but I wanted to expose the way the business was treating that, where they were profiting off of it and openly covering it, and they knew about it. And they thought it was just business. That wasn't what my agent said to me. It's just business.

1:21:28Joe Rogan:I remember a phone call we had somewhat after that, and I remember you telling me your agency dropped you. They dropped you. That's, I'm not crazy for thinking that, right?

1:21:46Jim Breuer:No, they dropped me. But what they said was that I had to apologize to him or they couldn't work with me anymore. Correct. And I said, listen, then if just you bringing that up, our relationship is over. Done. I said, just because you wanted to, and they said it's just business. I go, you're making a decision that will affect you for the rest of your life. I go, because you're siding with a vampire. You sell art. It's all you sell. All you guys are is a comedy agency, right? You sell art. You've got a guy who's stealing art from other artists. Like this is bad for you Everyone's gonna know so Louie left them after that Louie came up to meet the improv asked me if that was true I said yes.

1:22:23Jim Breuer:He goes, okay. I'm leaving them a tell Nick Swartzen a bunch of people did so it was it wasn't like I was right It was also but the negative feeling of the people angry at me for it was like so gross it was like you you put that out there in the world it's a giant distraction it takes away from most of your life you think about it

1:22:44Joe Rogan:all the time just not good at that time I I understand that but also like for instance I that was already out there with him yeah and I personally with comics it was it was out there were comics and it was out there with him i personally didn't see particular but like i well you worked with maybe once a choice and i'm not an la guy so everyone and their mother i mean it was a lot of people that would say that so when the the point of that happening it was such justice in the community and beyond that in the world like can we stop can we stop if you're taking from others if you're taking from which i've already dealt with at that point on some other levels it happened multiple times when people take and then you dealt with it on snl Yes, SNL and other areas and which whatever.

1:23:52Joe Rogan:It's all in the past and I'm all good now. So when you deal with that and you're very – I just dealt with buying tickets as another whole deal. So with that said, it's very freeing when you finally put it out there. And not that you want to see someone's career plummet or take a hit or whatever. but it was very refreshing to see that people or fans went oh we didn't know this because a lot of time fans don't care how could they know they wouldn't know but they did but they don't and you go you're still going to show up you still and then all of a sudden they just it went to a whole different direction you saw like this person struggling here and then it was uh it's that time we're living in you set an example for if we're all going to start moving forward can we just be blatantly honest whether it's whether we're making art or or or food whatever you're doing in your lifetime stop stealing and if you're going to take give the credit of where you're getting it from

1:24:59Jim Breuer:well but you can't do that in stand-up no you can't do it in stand-up you have to ask and you

1:25:03Joe Rogan:say can i buy that bit or something like that but it's just such a nobody wants to sell their bits

1:25:08Jim Breuer:You can't even do that. Well, you could hire people to write for you, which is very respectable. I know high-level comics who hire people to help them punch up jokes. Nothing wrong with that.

1:25:19Joe Rogan:No, and I never knew that either. I never knew that until I remember being in New York, and the guy was like, hey, I write with Chris. I'm like, Chris, Chris Wright. I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah, punch up, stuff like that. And then I would see certain guys, which makes sense, Because if you're going to hit a certain level, I mean, you got to stay. And not saying they're not.

1:25:40Jim Breuer:People would always say that Chris had writers. But that's not totally true. So what Chris would do was he would come up with all the material, come up with all the bits, and then he would have guys watch his set. Professional guys. And these professional guys would watch his set, and then they would talk about it. They would have feedback on bits. He really worked with Richard Jenney a lot.

1:26:03Joe Rogan:He was great. Oh my God, was he good. He taught me the most. I learned so much from Jenny because he would just take a premise and he'd go and every time you thought he was done milking this premise, he'd show up again 15 minutes later like, oh my God, we're going another direction with this premise? So good.

1:26:21Jim Breuer:You've got to be kidding me. He was so thorough. Oh my God. He would take all, I mean, it was so impressive. Wow. So Jenny's helping. Yes. Wow. Jenny helped rock with Bigger and Blacker. He helped him with what was the other one that was really bring the pain? Yes. The two big monsters classic Two of like if you have a top 20 all-time comedy specials. They're both in their monster monster bit monster monster

1:26:45Joe Rogan:Sets, he's the first guy I saw Chris was the very first person I saw I won a lottery To do open mic at the comic strip and I I'm gonna say I was 19 maybe 1920 I didn't know what that was and I show up to the comic strip and I see Eddie Murphy I'm like oh my god this is where because I had that Eddie Murphy album where he had like a little flower from the comic strip he did that at the comic strip? yeah yes it was at the comic strip yeah he did live from the comic strip

1:27:20Jim Breuer:that's a great special great special I bought it on cassette that's how old it is As an album. Bro, how did he stop doing stand-up? There it is. Oh, my God. How did he stop doing stand-up? He was 1982. He was so good. Yeah. I was a sophomore in high school back then.

1:27:38Joe Rogan:Yes, me too. Were you 58?

1:27:40Jim Breuer:Yeah. Yeah. We graduated at the same time. Look at the comic strip. He was so good. When you see him, did you see him do that? He got one of those Mark Twain Awards, I believe it was. Yes. And he went and did a set. Yes. Did an impression of Bill Cosby getting his awards taken away from him? No! Yes, it's great. I gotta watch that. Jamie will pull it up. You go, oh my God, please do stand-up again. Please do stand-up again.

1:28:07Joe Rogan:Do you remember the bit he did? He goes, I guess it was in, what was the one with the red leather pants? Raw. Raw. No, no, no. It was purple. Delirious. Delirious. You're right, you're right. He goes, man. He goes, man. He goes, Bill Cosby called me and he said, you know, the filth and the foul and the filth and the filth. And he goes, I call Richard Pryor. And Richard Pryor said, next time that motherfucker call you and tell him to suck my dick and have a nice pudding on me.

1:28:37Jim Breuer:Well, he said, do the people laugh? Yes. Did you get paid? Yes. But tell Bill to have a coconut smile and shut the fuck up. That's what he said.

1:28:46Joe Rogan:Thank you so much. This is a tremendous honor. Wonderful evening. I'd like to thank the Kennedy Center, first of all, for celebrating me and honoring me in such a wonderful way and bringing my loved ones and my family here. This is a super special, memorable night. And thank you to all the comedians that came out and sang. I mean, Sam Moore came out and sang, and Alabama Shakes was here. We had a really, really, really special, special night. It hasn't been lost on me that, you know, usually when people have evenings like this, a person is really really old when they get these awards they'll let you wait really like one of the greatest funniest people of all time was uh george carlin and he received this award award posthumously and he's funnier than all of us so to be standing here alive and looking like myself still

1:29:46Joe Rogan:they'll let you get really old

1:29:54Joe Rogan:And there was also some confusion about whether or not it was an award or a prize. And I, you know, and actually it's an award. Even though they call it a prize, it's an award. Because usually when there's a prize, there's money involved.

1:30:13Joe Rogan:But I thought I was going to get some paper. I was like, yo, Mark Twain Award at Kennedy Center. That sounded like paper. Then they told me yesterday they raised$2.3 million. I was like, yo, I'm in there. Then I came down and they told me that, oh, there is no, it's a prize, but there is no money. And I was like, oh.

1:30:38Joe Rogan:So I think to clear up the confusion for future recipients, maybe you don't want to call it the Mark Twain prize. Maybe you might want... If you don't want to call it the award, maybe you could call it the Mark Twain surprise. Surprise.

1:31:01Joe Rogan:And surprise, of course, being you ain't getting no money.

1:31:08Joe Rogan:But that still doesn't diminish how wonderful this is. It's a wonderful, wonderful thing to be included with some of my heroes, Richard Pryor and George Carlin and Carl Reiner and Lily Tomlin.

1:31:25Jim Breuer:Who else got this? Bill. Oh, Bill has one of these.

1:31:31Jim Breuer:Did y 'all make Bill give his back?

1:31:35Joe Rogan:No, because I know there was a big outcry from people. They was trying to get Bill to give his trophies back. You know you up when they want you to give your trophies back. I'm gonna choke this man. I don't wanna give this trophy back to him. He should do one show where you just come out and just talk crazy now.

1:31:56Jim Breuer:I would like to talk to...

1:32:00Joe Rogan:some of the people who feel that I should give back my trophies!

1:32:14Jim Breuer:Obviously they bleeped that out. Wow.

1:32:17Joe Rogan:Just because you may have heard recently that I allegedly put the pill into people's chocolate. I wish somebody would come up to my house talking about give up the trophy because you put the pill into people's chocolate, you get it. Because I'm not giving back.

1:32:45Joe Rogan:And who is Hannibal Barris?

1:32:56Hannibal Barris!

1:33:00Jim Breuer:But this is 11 years ago. Yeah, I was going to say, was that Dick Gregory? Yeah, that's Dick Gregory. It was, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on out and push over. Yeah, we're good. But it's, he's like a stand-up. Like, he's doing stand-up, accepting the war, and he's killing, and he hasn't done stand-up in fucking decades.

1:33:19Joe Rogan:I think it's the Billy Joel thing, where he was such a hit, and so, I mean, his stand-up specials were monsters. It's, to be, want to be compared to that is such a, like, you and I, Archimedes, like, my kids have no clue Eddie Murphy was stand-up. They have no they have no clue. They just know him as donkey. That's crazy. He's donkey and Shrek, right?

1:33:46Jim Breuer:He's big mama.

1:33:47Joe Rogan:Yes.

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1:36:28Joe Rogan:He's the one where I committed to doing stand-up. I was taking, I was, my parents moved to Florida. This is like 1987, something like that. So I'm taking theater. I'm doing stand-up in Long Island, like playing Levittown, the Governors. And I was shocked no one discovered me. I was so cocky. So cocky. How do you not know I've arrived to New York? Soon I will be discovered. And then my parents moved to Florida. And while I'm down there, I'm really struggling. I think I was almost 21 years old. I said, I'll just go into restaurant management and hotel. And I took that nonsense class. And then Eddie Murphy.

1:37:16Joe Rogan:And the only reason I was doing it was for my mother. Because my mom's like, you got to fall back on something. and you need a pension and, you know, they're worried. You got to get a pension and make money. God forbid something happens. Jimmy, you got to do something. And so while I'll never forget this, this is like 19, I want to say it's late 88, maybe early 89. And Arsenio Hall was like the biggest talk show thing ever. Yeah. Where's my dog? Where are my dogs? It was huge. Things that make you go, hmm. Yeah, things that make you go, hmm. Remember that? Yes. Things that make you go, hmm. Yes, things that make you go, hmm.

1:37:58Joe Rogan:And so he had Eddie Murphy on. And, of course, I saw Eddie Murphy live at Westbury Music Fair when he was like 18 years old. I'm like, so this is my life right here. And so I'm watching Eddie Murphy. I wish I could find this interview one day. and Arsenio's like you got anything to say for any young comics out there and this is not exactly what he said but I remember he turned to the camera and he went don't listen to your mother your mother wants you to do that you're going to 100 % why are you going to fall back if you're going to make a pizza you're going to make a pizza 100 % but the point of him was like don't listen to your mother you're going to go for it you know what you want inside you go for it stop listening to these outside sources that really they don't they're not in your brain they're not in your journey they're not in your vision I've told I've told a couple nephews and a good friend about this is a gym I really want to go in there I said do it your mom's gonna get pissed but she's not this is your journey kid go for it but that moment Eddie Murphy is the reason why I just I went home that day and I went uh I gotta tell you guys something And, you know, my dad's World War II vet.

1:39:15Joe Rogan:Everyone's a cop in the family. My dad is still like, you know, you can still sign up for the police department. You want that? You know, you get a good pension.

1:39:24Jim Breuer:Officer Jim. Yeah, dude. I was there like, Dad. The windows rolled down. Smoke comes out of the car. Give me that joint. Get the fuck out of here.

1:39:34Joe Rogan:You know why I pulled you over? No, I don't need that. Get out of here. Don't be an asshole. Just get home safe. He'll follow me. And not only that, I told my dad. If I ever had to chase someone, I'm not giving you a ticket. I am going to beat the shit out of you. If I'm running, my calves are killing me, and I'm going through red lights, when I get you, I'm taking you behind a dumpster. It's not going to end well for you. I'm not made for that. And so I said, hey, I want to let you know right now, I am going to be a stand-up comedian. I am going to go into TV. I'm going to pursue film. And this is what I'm doing.

1:40:11Joe Rogan:And I'll never forget it was my dad. It was my dad who turned to me, never shook my hand in my life. And he went, you're a man now. And he goes, you go do that because I never had that opportunity. And I want you to have more than me. And my mom was like, Jesus Christ almighty, be careful, be careful. Be careful. Be careful, Jesus Christ. Later that night, she's having martinis. You know, I was most of the time. Spinning around a circle. and I have all my, I've been right now. Oh, that's so funny. But that was it. That was the, it was Eddie Murphy and then my dad's official boom. And I was off to the races.

1:40:54Jim Breuer:By the time I started doing stand-up, my parents had long given up on trying to control me. They're like, okay. Yeah. Good luck.

1:41:02Joe Rogan:Well, yeah, you're in your young 20s now.

1:41:03Jim Breuer:Yeah. And it was also like, they were uncomfortable about me fighting and I was like, I'm gonna go do this. I'm doing this. Yeah, you know what you're doing. Well, it's like even if I didn't know what I was doing, I was going to do it. Yeah, you were doing it. But it's like that leap is very hard when your parents are telling you no. It's very hard. When they're giving you a hard time and they're putting pressure on you to have a legitimate career, they just don't get it. You know, they just don't get it that it's like someone can do it. It is a job. So this thing is like, oh, what if you never make it?

1:41:39Jim Breuer:Like I remember I was dating this girl when I was 21 and her dad said that to her. Like her dad was very concerned about me. He said, what if he doesn't make it? And she said it to me. You know what my dad said? He said, what if you don't make it? I go, okay. I don't know what to say. Maybe I won't. But I'm going to try. I'm not going to stop doing it because I might not make it. That's retarded. I go, someone can do it. Like I work with professional comedians all the time. They make a living doing stand-up comedy. Right. I know it exists. Right. It's not like I'm inventing a new profession that didn't exist before.

1:42:11Jim Breuer:Correct. This is a profession. Yeah. It's not easy to do, but I think I can do it. And I think I want to try because I can't have a regular job. I'm too ADD. I can't sit in a... Me either. And when I say regular job, people think... I know what you mean. Oh, you're demeaning our jobs. No, you're not. That's not what I mean. I mean a job you don't want to do. Like if you have an office job, but that's what you love doing, if you're doing something that you enjoy doing, there's nothing wrong with that. But a lot of people, that's not what they're doing. A lot of people are just doing a job. And that beats you down.

1:42:44Jim Breuer:It beats you down and it dulls you. It dulls the conversations that you have. It dulls the conversations you have off work. You don't get stimulated. You're at a drone frequency, unfortunately. And I didn't want to do that, man. I had a bunch of jobs, like job jobs just for money, and they don't feel good. I didn't enjoy it. And I didn't have a thing. Like if there was a thing, like I want to be a carpenter, I want to build houses. I didn't have that thing. I didn't have that either. But I know people who do, and they're very happy. They love it. Architects, engineers. There's a lot of people who love what they do.

1:43:19Jim Breuer:Those were not interesting to me. And so I was trying, and then stand-up was the only thing. I'm like, oh, my God, these people are outcasts just like me. They're weirdos just like me. They're the people that just don't fit in. They're the people that say the things you're not supposed to say. That was me. I was like, I got to figure out how to do this. I knew it was a, I might, I mean, I never thought, my own, Fitzsimmons and I talk about this all the time because we started out like literally within a week of each other. Wow. We traveled together all of, we would drive to Rhode Island to do open mics together.

1:43:49Jim Breuer:We hung out, we did a ton of road gigs in the early days. All our goal was, was to be able to pay our bills with comedy. That was the goal. Right. The only goal and it felt great. That was because we knew guys there was this guy DJ hazard It was a really funny Boston stand-up and I went to look at these apartments once and these loft apartments They had turned this Like an elementary school this old brick elementary school into these loft condos. Yeah, and DJ had a place there And I knew like I went to look at this like little studio apartment that they had there and he had this big loft I was like oh my god you imagine this guy's doing this just with comedy this is crazy right look at this fucking killer apartment this guy has and he just tells jokes right that was the dream yes and that was a dream I tell my kids to

1:44:39Joe Rogan:I tell everyone just go for your passion whatever it is go for the passion and you know my dude while you're young what you don't have a family yes mortgage yes is this the moment I think so

1:44:50Jim Breuer:he's talking about starting comedy and not look at his hair.

1:44:53Joe Rogan:Look at his hair.

1:44:58Joe Rogan:By the way, Ed, here's your report card. I'll be blown away if this is it.

1:45:05Jim Breuer:But you always knew that this is where you wanted to be.

1:45:09Joe Rogan:I knew I wanted to be in show business and I just happened to luck out and things happened. I think you know what you're supposed to do deep down inside. I think everybody does. A lot of people just don't go after it. You know? Like, most people start out, they say, I want to be a this, but I'm going to get that to make sure I have something to fall back on. And what you're doing is you're setting yourself up for fame because you're going, there's a possibility that I'm going to fall back. And when you put that out there, then you fall back. But if you just say, hey, this is what I want to do, and you go do it, you usually get your stuff the way you want it, man.

1:45:41Joe Rogan:That's what... Yeah.

1:45:46Joe Rogan:I don't even know if this is true because you know how uncle ray lies okay uncle ray's i loved uncle right you know how much your uncle lies yeah uncle right shaved off his beard you see him no i didn't see him

1:46:00Jim Breuer:uncle ray told me that a fortune went down my back he came out with his beard off i said oh they don't know uncle ray so they're like picture uh picture me but a lot older that's uncle ray

1:46:17Jim Breuer:He said that...

1:46:20Joe Rogan:He said... How much time do we have last? Oh, plenty? Do you have any other guests tonight? Um... It's me and you and Uncle Ray. He's like, this is... I already did my favor.

1:46:31Jim Breuer:Oh! Hey, Uncle Ray! Wait, wait, wait, wait! Not Uncle Ray! Please don't invite Uncle Ray out here.

1:46:39Joe Rogan:Uncle Ray! Uncle Ray! Uncle Ray!

1:46:54Joe Rogan:That's hilarious. He brought his uncle out. His uncle would murder. That's what I would look like in 40 years. His uncle would murder, I think, on Letterman. His uncle would murder. Now he got me wondering. Maybe there's another interview. No, I could. Like, did I go from that or my head? Did you add to it in your head? Did I add to it in my head? That does happen. It does happen. I don't like that. Oh, it's so weird.

1:47:24Jim Breuer:I don't like that because I'm like, I absolutely said. It's so weird when you have a memory that you're sure of. Yes. And then other people are like, no, this happened, that happened, the other thing. And then you're like, wait, shit. You're right.

1:47:37Joe Rogan:And I do remember saying the fallback stuff because I used that going into talking to my mom. Like, mom, can't fall back. Am I going to do 100 %? That is a fact.

1:47:46Jim Breuer:With anything. You can't fall back. You can't have a net. You're not going to make it if you have a net. No, you're spreading yourself thin all over the place. It's just too hard. Well, also, the amount of focus that it takes, whatever you're trying to do in life, the amount of focus that it takes to do it. This is what I always say to fighters when they have like one foot in and one foot out. I'm like, quit. Quit. Because the consequences of you facing a guy that's all in are devastating. That guy wants to be the best ever, and you're not sure if you want to fight anymore, you're going to get hurt.

1:48:16Jim Breuer:Right. Right. That happens a lot. You see that a lot.

1:48:19Joe Rogan:Yeah, because sometimes it's just for the cash.

1:48:22Jim Breuer:Well, it's also their identity. They're not sure if this is the right career for them. Maybe they have a couple of losses, and they don't feel confident anymore. Get out. But with comedy, at least you don't have to worry about getting hurt. Like, really what it's just about is like, okay, you're presented with more challenges. Figure it out. Figure it out and push through. Somebody's done it. Okay? There's people out there that are doing it, which is one of the things that we really, when we started the club, one of the things that we implemented at the club that we thought was really important is a legitimate development program.

1:48:56Jim Breuer:So Adam Egott, who is the talent coordinator for the Comedy Store, is now the talent coordinator for the Mothership, but he takes it very seriously. There's a program. Right. There's two days of open mic nights. He watches everybody set. He sits down, he takes notes, he gives them feedback. And then when they start progressing, he gives them a little bit more time. And then maybe he'll give them a spot on one of the showcase shows.

1:49:18Joe Rogan:Right.

1:49:18Jim Breuer:And doing that and allowing people to have a pathway where then they go on the road with some of the other headliners. Right. We have a lot of guys that are headlining on the road that are taking a lot of the people that work at the club, door people, people that work on the staff, take them on the road with them. And now, so there's a pathway. So not only do you see that others have done it, so you know, but there's a way that it's like we're helping them. And there's a lot of talented people that they get frustrated. And we all knew guys that were really fucking talented when we were in New York.

1:49:51Jim Breuer:Remember that kid from Jimmy's Comedy Alley? I brought him up before. Dark hair. He was really funny. Really funny. Remember Jimmy's Comedy Alley in Queens? I know I brought him up on the podcast before. Vaguely. This kid was funny, man. But funny, but like really socially conscious. He was a New York guy. He was a New York guy.

1:50:11Joe Rogan:Was he kind of sporadic and off the wall a little bit? Yeah, he was a little weird. I know who you're talking about. You know who I'm talking about.

1:50:22Jim Breuer:Oh, my God. But he was funny. George? Is it George Gallo? No, no. That's another guy who was very funny, too. Okay. There was another guy, but this guy was different. He was almost like, kind of like, clearly he was a fan of Bill Hicks. Ah. But he wasn't stealing from Bill Hicks, but he was clearly inspired by Bill Hicks. Okay. I mean, not Bill Hicks style at all, but socially conscious stand-up that was like really funny and good. And I was like, this guy's going to make it. And no.

1:50:51Joe Rogan:Almost Stan Hope-y. Like Doug.

1:50:53Jim Breuer:Not as good as Stan Hope. Yeah. Not as good as Stan Hope. But wasn't, didn't have. Like by the time I met Stan Hope, Stan Hope had been doing stand-up for probably 12 years. So he was like super legit back then.

1:51:08Joe Rogan:I think that's when I remember we were at some Florida event and I went down there totally fluffing my feathers. I think I might have had a season of SNL. I'm wearing my peacock feathers out. And Stanhope was the winner of this festival, and they got to play the last night. I think it was like Todd Berry. All I remember is Todd Berry, Doug Stanhope, and me. Now, I was supposed to follow Todd Berry. No offense to Todd. I'll take that any day of the week because Todd's energy is lower. Right.

1:51:57Jim Breuer:He's like a deadpan guy.

1:51:59Joe Rogan:And deadpan, no matter murder, I feel comfortable. I'm like, okay, I usually do okay after deadpan no matter what. I'm ready to go. I'm seasoned. I can do this. They go, we're switching the order. I'm switching the order. Because at that time, too, I think the manager, maybe it was whoever it was, he knew. He's like, there's no way he's going to be able to go up after Stanhope. So they switched Barry and Stanhope. So now I don't know who Doug Stanhope is. And Doug Stanhope goes up. I'm going to say for like the first couple minutes, he's eating it a little bit. And I'm like, why would you do this to this kid?

1:52:36Joe Rogan:And all of a sudden, he snapped. And all I remember is from that moment on, I went, oh, shit. This is going to be an issue going up after this. And he was murdering, like slaying. And the things he was saying, because at that time, too, I'm not a dirty guy. I'm not. I just choose sometimes. I love filthy material, but I just don't always go in that. And he's hitting subjects, like dark subjects and in sex. And he's beating the shit out of the room. And I just went, yeah, this is not going to go well. and I remember going up and I held my own, but I don't know if I pulled off going up after a very young, unproven Stan Hub.

1:53:36Joe Rogan:Even back then, I was like, I got to keep my eye on this guy because he's a monster. And he was. He was a monster. This is like 90, maybe mid-90s?

1:53:48Jim Breuer:Yeah, I think I met Stan Hope in 98, somewhere around then. What is that? No, no, no. Well, maybe. Yeah, that is him. That's Keith Anthony. That is him. That is him. He just looks different there. Whoa. Wait a minute. That's when he's older. Yep, that's him. That's him. No, it's just Keith Anthony. So is he still working? Who's Keith Anthony? Keith Anthony is the guy that I was telling you about Jimmy's comedy album. Oh. He was very funny. He came to He came to the comedy store. He drove across the country in a Cadillac that had the roof sawed off of it And it like it was a convertible but not really so it didn't have a top And so his fucking he got rained on while he was driving across the country So his entire Cadillac is filled with water while he's driving.

1:54:36I

1:54:36Jim Breuer:Don't know if he drove with a raincoat or if he just ate it just ate the water. But yeah, that's that's Keith Anthony Thank you James. Is he still around? How did you pull that off? Is he still around? I don't know. I haven't seen him in forever. I remember we brought him up on the podcast a few years ago. I found a transcript where we brought him up.

1:54:54Joe Rogan:Who is the guy from the radio? I hope I'm not going to run to this. The radio. There's a radio guy. He was taller. He was married to like an Israeli chick. John Tobin. Yes! Yeah. I still, that was one of the greatest, most hilarious adventures of my lifetime was Tobin and I, we had a gig and it was horrifying. It was like, coconuts, we're going to send you down to Cancun spring break. Oh God. Oh yeah. And I'm young. I'm like, oh my, I'm not even married yet. You were in Cancun? Yes. And it's spring break. I'm like, oh my God. What year was this? Okay. So I got married in 93. I'm going to say 1992.

1:55:47Joe Rogan:1992. And I think I'm making 500 bucks for two weeks. You have to work every single night. Right. So wait a minute. So I don't know who the other comedian is. Right. Right. And so as I land in Cancun and right away the bells and a whistle and have a tequila shot. I'm like, I'm young, Mike. This is great. Tobin is probably 10, 15 years older. Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to say he was in his young 40s. I could be wrong. So as we're driving down to Cancun and we're getting wasted on the bus. Like, who wants another shot? I want another shot. This is the greatest gig ever. so we pass all the spring break hotels and there's no one left on the bus there's nobody left on the bus except for some guy who's like in his 40s right and I go walking up the bus drive like hey uh where's where's uh you know La Travasse and he's going I don't understand what he's saying and this guy goes he said it's downtown I went oh I go what is your name?

1:57:01Joe Rogan:He goes John I go I'm a comedian He's like yeah I'm the other fucking comedian and they have us fucking downtown They're gonna have some fucking thing Why does he have it? I said it's okay Are you sure? That doesn't sound like John No no no no dude It was John This is really funny So they put us downtown Right? Me and Tobin And me and John have talked to this multiple times I said one day we gotta write this as the funniest adventure ever. We had a take. First of all, we check in the hotel and the guy's like, yeah, I don't know if the other guy's still in there. What other guy? The three of you in one room.

1:57:41Joe Rogan:Three of us in a room. What are you talking about? John's losing his shit. He's arguing with his, he's like, I'm married to an Israeli chick. And all they do is yell at each other. He goes, pay phone. So now we go to our room and there's someone in our room. And he goes, yeah, I haven't been paid yet. Been stuck here for like a month. What? Oh, yeah. So I slept on the floor. No. On my life. On my lap. As Tobin is. So I'm on the floor. The first night I wake up and Tobin's like yelling over the other side. He's like, if you keep snoring, I'm going to lose my shit. Right? By the end of the week, we're not getting paid.

1:58:25Joe Rogan:All the gigs are getting canceled. All I remember is... And it ended like six days later. I had to go get money transferred because now we're partying. We're just like, screw it. Let's go find weed, tequila. We went on an adventure with this poor bastard got thrown out of a car. We were going to buy tequila. And the guy got thrown out of a car. And we're like, what's going on? Now, we're all wasted. And we go up and the guy's going in his pockets and taking his money. And we go, hey, what's going on there? And he's like, you know, I'm talking in Spanish again. John knew Spanish a little bit. And so he takes off and we're taking care of this guy.

1:59:09Joe Rogan:Like, what's your name? He's like, Juan. To this day, this is why I know in Spanish my name is Jaime. Because we lifted him up and he's like, oh, amigo, amigo, what's your name? I said, James. Jaime. Yeah, yeah, Jaime. Amigo. John. Juan. John, this night lasted to 6 a.m. in the morning, and it was one of the greatest ventures in our entire lifetime. To this day, I have to get Tobin because he's got even greater details as the night goes on. It was probably the greatest. It ended that night or that morning about 7 a.m. to John with a golf club smashing the drapes. Because he's like, I said I'm going to lose it if you don't stop snoring.

2:00:08Joe Rogan:And he's smashing the thing. The University of Wisconsin was staying there with some other mess going on. All I remember is I woke up, I went right to the airport, I booked a hotel, and I went home and I haven't seen John since. But I remember you knew him. You were his buddy. Well, John and I did stand up at the Joker's Wild in New Haven, Connecticut.

2:00:29Jim Breuer:That's where I worked with him. He was the opening act. I was the headliner. Or he was the middle act, one or the other. And then we became friends and we started playing pool together. And then he got a job at executive billiards in White Plains. He was one of the counter guys at executive billiards. Oh. So the pool hall where I became obsessed with playing pool, John and I would hang out in that pool hall all the time because John worked there. Ah.

2:00:57Joe Rogan:Yeah.

2:00:58Jim Breuer:Yes, because he would bring you up a lot.

2:00:59Joe Rogan:He's like, you know Joe Rogan? Oh, yeah. He's like, yeah, I'm friends with him. But this is way, way, way, way, way, way.

2:01:05Jim Breuer:Now I think about it. John did have a little bit of an anger issue. Bro, it was the funniest.

2:01:12Joe Rogan:And he would be on his way. He's yelling at his wife. Don't talk to me. I'm stuck in Cancun.

2:01:18Jim Breuer:Oh, no. I got to get all the details of the adventure. I lost touch with that dude. I ran into him a long time ago. I want to say close to 20 years ago. I was doing a gig in Miami. And after the show, we were leaving the back of the theater. And I went to get in the car. And I saw this guy that was standing out and he knew that this was the back of the theater was gonna come out It was John and I didn't recognize him for like a half a second because it was like spotlight behind him Yeah, you know, he was a little silly the streetlight behind him and then I was like, oh shit What are you doing and I know we exchanged numbers, but you know me I changed my fucking number every two years at least I lost touch with him a long time ago, and I lost phones and I don't know but And John and I were always in that pool hall together.

2:02:06Joe Rogan:Wow.

2:02:07Jim Breuer:Yeah, for a couple of years he worked there at least. He was like the counter guy. Like he would give you the balls and take the money. And our good friend Guy, Guy Azariti, rest in peace, he was the owner of the place. I'm going to hunt him down. Well, he'll probably reach out after this.

2:02:25Joe Rogan:Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a black guy with us. The other guy was a black guy. and every day we'd leave and this little hooker would follow me and she had to be like in her 50s. And she was chubby and a mess. And she'd go, Ew, you're not 20, little boy, little boy. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. But the black dude would always go, Yo, I'll take you. He'd go, no, no, too big, too big, too big. I swear to God. That's hilarious. And what's crazy is that adventure we went on, we end up going to this guy's house and he made like his wife and stuff cook for us and his whole family is staring at us. You know, I'm a jackass.

2:03:04Joe Rogan:I'm all juiced up. They're like, we're going to get you out of Mexico and we're going to get you to America and we're going to help you out right now.

2:03:14Jim Breuer:We're going to get you to America.

2:03:15Joe Rogan:Yeah, we're going to help you out. We're going to save you. You don't worry about America. And I remember the neighborhood too. Like they're, as you went through, a dog just running wild. Wasn't in the nice part. It was just a part of town. Like, are we safe? And who lives on a street? As we're showing up like three in the morning, it was the hooker that stays outside our hotel room. Like, you can't even write this. She's like, oh, she no go. She no go. No, Jaime, Jaime. No, no. And I'm like, no, trust me. No. I don't want any of that. But she tries to get me every day. Every day she tries to get me

2:03:54Jim Breuer:She tries to get me Bro you used to be able to go to Mexico And it was no problem Like Mexico was a fun place to visit Did you see what's going on right now in Puerto Vallarta? No I heard Dude I tapped out You don't know? Oh listen it's just started yesterday There's a gang war With the cartel war that's going on In Puerto Vallarta Because they killed the head of one of the cartels So they arrested The military arrested and killed one of the heads of one of the cartels. And Puerto Vallarta right now is a war zone. Really? They lit a Costco on fire. There's gunfights in the streets, cars and trucks on fire.

2:04:37Jim Breuer:Roads are shut down. You can't fly out of there anymore. All the airlines won't fly out. Air Canada pulled their flights. All these places pulled their flights. So there's tourists that went to Puerto Vallarta on vacation that are Americans that are stuck there. Is this... U.S. citizens' urge to shelter in place after Mexico drug lords killing sparks wave of violence. Yeah, this is going on right now. Like, right now. See if you can find some video of it.

2:05:04Joe Rogan:That's south, right? Puerto Vallarta, yes.

2:05:07Jim Breuer:South of, like, Cancun and all that? No, it's on the other side of the country. Oh, it's the West Coast. Yes. Okay. I think, right? Isn't Puerto Vallarta the West Coast? Like Cabo? Yes. On that side? I think. I don't know. I know it's near Punta Mita that has that, there's a beautiful Four Seasons resort there. Yeah, it's on the west side. But there's a gang war, like a literal cartel. Literally gang fight, street fight. Oh, dude, watch the video. Put the videos, cartel, just write cartel violence after that. Cartel. It's fucking crazy. just write cartel fucking help me out Henry the footage is fucking bananas look at this well there's real shit this ain't real that's AI me and the boy this is real this I've seen go full screen this is the Costco on fire bro they're blowing up buildings there's gunfights in the streets they've got armored vehicles there's shootouts I was watching this video where these people are like hiding in a building in here.

2:06:22Jim Breuer:Just fucking gunfights in the middle of the street. It's crazy. Look how much is on fire. Look at these people on the beach like nothing's going on. And what are they targeting? I'm jogging. I don't care. I've got to get my 10 ,000 steps in. I've got my earbuds in. That guy's on a horse. And I'm listening to native flute music. Look at all these fucking people just chilling while there's buildings on fire in the background. That's hilarious. Wow. They're surrounded by cartel warfare. And Air Canada has canceled flights out of Puerto Vallarta. Yeah, look at that. Bro, this is so bad for tourism This is gonna cost Mexico billions of dollars.

2:06:55Jim Breuer:You know, it's kind of shit. Look at the picture, man It's like a half the city's on fire. That's crazy. Mmm. Interesting What does that tweet say? Just a joke. Go back to it. It's 10 % off at Vrbo

2:07:09Joe Rogan:And now you too can go you ever see those those was a That one right there.

2:07:15Jim Breuer:Chaotic scenes from Puerto Vallarta after CJNG, Jalisco, new generation cartel, Sicario, started to block main roads and set civilian vehicles on fire in multiple regions of Mexico, including Guadalajara. How do you say that? Mohacan? Mohacan and Jalisco. In retaliation to the, show more. The alleged. killing of their leader, El Mencho. Meanwhile, reports are emerging stating that the cartel mechanized units with improvised monster armored vehicles are amassing in Jalisco and other parts of the country. So there's some shit, like some serious shit that's going down. Interesting. Scary. Yeah. Scary to get stuck in the middle of that.

2:08:04Jim Breuer:Well, getting stuck there would be a little bit of a bummer. Well, no, I'm stuck in the middle of it because that's where a lot of people die in the crossfire. You get hit with strays because they're not precision shooting. They're gunning people down and they're shooting at cars. That's Mexico now. The point is when you went there in 92, you used to be able to go there. It was easy. It was like nobody worried at all about going to Mexico. Going to Mexico was fun. You didn't even have to have a passport back in the day. You used to be able to go over there with your driver's license.

2:08:35Joe Rogan:That is true. Sometimes, I mean, they've always scared you with the cartel thing. Not saying it doesn't exist. No. Once in a while, up until like five years ago, seven years. Put it this way, my wife and I went to a place called Maroma, but on the East Coast. And even before we went, friends were like, oh, you've got to be careful. I know where that is.

2:08:57Jim Breuer:That's near Cancun, right? That's near Chichen Itza.

2:09:00Joe Rogan:Yes, yes. Yeah. It was a beautiful little tiny resort. I went to that place. Like a 20-something anniversary. And even then I would see people walking down the street with machine guns. Was it? They were the cops. Cops. The cops or the army or whatever. And I was like, whoa. And they would tell you, and they're like, listen, if you see something washed up on short, don't touch it. Don't touch it. Like, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't. Let the government come and get it.

2:09:29Jim Breuer:Don't steal the Coke.

2:09:30Joe Rogan:Okay. All right. Well, I'll have another margarita. That's cool. So when's dinner again? Yeah. But you always kind of heard. Well, it was nothing scary, though.

2:09:39Jim Breuer:Not like this. It used to be like a normal place to go to tour. Like that place I told you about, Punta Mita. I've been there. I went once with my family when my kids were really young, and they have golf carts on the resort. And you can drive around your golf cart. You stay in this little villa, and you get a little golf cart that you can borrow. And then we asked the people, can we take the golf cart into the town? And they said, sure. So we leave and you leave the resort and then you go into the town and it's just like immediate abject poverty and this militarized police station where these guys were on an armored car with this like big armored plate and a fucking machine gun and the guy's sitting there just like he's ready to go.

2:10:23Jim Breuer:And then I had to put it together. Oh, they're there to protect the resort. Correct. I was like, whoa. Correct. So then it starts putting like the illusion of the four seasons dissolves because the illusion is this immaculately manicured lawns, beautiful landscape, gorgeous buildings. Everyone's well attired and so polite and serving you. I'm like, and this is surrounded by real Mexico.

2:10:51Joe Rogan:That was like the first time I went to Turks and Caicos. The kids were young, and I went to whatever resort. It's all included. Maybe it was a beaches. I don't remember. And we had to – but the minute you went right outside of beaches, you're like, whoa. They're like barely getting by. They don't have nothing going on here, and it's all you can eat right there. and I remember being younger in my head I don't know if it was the weed or whatever but I'd sit there and go oh so basically whatever like corporations will show up like how much for these beaches? They're like oh it's not for sale how much?

2:11:38Joe Rogan:Because we want this no we've been living here forever we live off the yeah yeah yeah drugs and you know crazy gangs don't show up then you need us to protect you And then, you know, if then you let us know and maybe we can make a deal. Me, me, or they make the deal with one of the leaders. Dude, I. People have always been vacationing in Mexico. Yes. But it always blows me away. Like people will get mad, whether it's whether it's Hawaii or whatever. All the nicest beaches in the world are basically. If even in bad areas, they're surrounded by like billionaire, like gorgeous resort. It's just like it's just like coming off a cruise boat.

2:12:18Joe Rogan:You're treated like a king and a queen, and then you show up at certain ports, and they're, like, all begging. You're like, oh, these beggars. But, I mean, if you think about it, it's like someone coming here, and they're coming into a bad section, and they're worth billions of dollars, and they're coming off, and they're kind of looking at you funny. That always fascinated me. Like, how do they get into these areas, and they make sure you stay there?

2:12:44Jim Breuer:Well, usually those areas are fucked for a reason, right? And Mexico is fucked for a reason because of the drugs. That's a big part of it. And the other thing is what happened in the 19, I guess, the 80s with that movie Roger and Me, whatever year that was, that detailed that, where they just shipped all the factories over to Mexico. And then that became like it killed Detroit. And a lot of things started getting manufactured and built in Mexico. and they took advantage of the fact that they can get cheaper wages over there and they didn't have to insure anybody. They didn't have to give no benefits.

2:13:20Jim Breuer:No benefits. You spend way less money and you can make people work way longer. There's no rules. That's the beginning of all of it. A lot of dirty corporations did that just to make a buck. Yep. And continue.

2:13:33Joe Rogan:Yeah. And continue to do that. Interesting.

2:13:35Jim Breuer:When you find out that the rest of the world, like the whole world, when you look at, people love to use that term, the one percenters, You know what the 1 % for the whole world is? Top 1 %? $34 ,000. $34 ,000 a year puts you in the 1 % of the world. What? Yes. That's how distorted our version of wealth and middle class and prosperity. This is the beauty of a functioning capitalism United States. is that you do so well that you start talking about inequality. You don't realize that even the inequality that you have in America is the dream of someone who lives in a third world country.

2:14:21Joe Rogan:I go, I love going to, I go to Tanzania, Kenya, last year I did six weeks in Africa. I love going in the middle of nowhere and just seeing literally people with nothing. And they're still happy. Not only are they still happy, they just have the whole life system down. They understand everything operates for a reason. Everything operates for a reason. I remember this one guy who was telling me, like, the giraffes were walking along, right? And he's like, oh, that tree is going to communicate with that tree. And the roots, by talking to the roots, and then the roots are going to send up a system.

2:15:12Joe Rogan:And you're going to notice the giraffe is going to walk to it and immediately walk to the next one because they already put out the – I'm like, what? What? Like, how do you even know? Because this is what they live in. And then even I would talk with the locals. And I'd be like, how? Like in a village. Yeah. There's no paved roads. And I'd go, how does, if something goes down here, like let's say this guy's a jerk and he gets away to something nasty. There's no courts. There's no laws. There's no police. They do everything in a cell. So they go, well, then the wisest, the elders get together and they go, let's confront so-and-so.

2:15:53Joe Rogan:and we go to the house and we go, hey, man, what's going on here? You need to come out. Everyone said they stole. They watched you steal, and there it is. And then they'll bring them out into the entire village. They'll be like, well, everyone, everyone, no. Little Johnny here. I don't know what's going on. Is it your family? Is some kind of thing going on at home? Whatever we can do, we want to help you and make sure this never helps again. But everyone needs to know you now, you got to be careful. And so we all got our eye on you. And it's just it it blows my mind, the simplicity of that. And I feel like we had that as little children hanging out in the street and everyone kind of looking at each other.

2:16:33Joe Rogan:And I always wondered if we ever were going to go back to that somehow where.

2:16:40Jim Breuer:Well, you really can if you have a job and you commute. It's gotten so complicated since then. Social media on it. And you have to answer email. You're not going back to that.

2:16:48Joe Rogan:No, it's so complicated. And, you know, once in a while, you're like, I would like a latte and three slices of pizza.

2:16:54Jim Breuer:Have you ever seen the Werner Herzog documentary, Happy People, Life in the Taiga? No. Didn't he also do the bear guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:17:03Joe Rogan:Grizzly Man.

2:17:05Jim Breuer:That's a great one.

2:17:06Joe Rogan:That was one of the greatest movies I've ever seen. It's the craziest, craziest movie ever. Belly laughed watching that thing.

2:17:12Jim Breuer:He made that a comedy. He did it on purpose. But this happy people life in the taiga is all about these trappers that live in the taiga forest in Siberia and how happy they are. These people have nothing. I mean they have nothing. They have to catch fish. They have to catch animals for fur and shoot animals for meat. And they drive around in snowmobiles everywhere. And then they go together at night and they all drink. They all have dogs. They're all so happy. There's like very low instances of mental illness. See if you can find some clips from it. It's a really good documentary because it makes you think, like, what do you need out of life?

2:17:51Jim Breuer:What do you need? We have everything. What do you actually need out of life? We have everything. These people are, like, really well-balanced, man. They're fucking very genuinely happy people. And the way Werner Herzog documents it and does the narration, part of you just goes, wow, this is, like, is this how you're supposed to live? Are you supposed to? But subsistence lifestyles, like the people that live subsistence lifestyles, they're the really happy ones. I believe so. I remember just going, happy people. I think that's how you're supposed to live. I think that's how. 100%. Maybe not, I shouldn't say supposed to live, but that is how we evolved.

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2:20:29Joe Rogan:It's not normal at all. I remember even just, oh, my God. I have a friend who lives in Belize, but he lives really south where it's still kind of – it's not really developed that much. So this one, I hurt my leg. My wife's going to go scuba diving with my daughter. And the guy there is like, hey, man, you want to hook up with whoever the local is? He wants to show you around. I said, great. So we hook up with this guy. it's just me and him on the boat and I said thank you sir he's like I want to show you the way he's like do you mind he stops he gets weed he's like it's okay if I get weed I'm like yeah knock yourself out he stops at the port he gets weed he's like he's happy now right we go out and we go to the little island that he lives on with his village and he was talking about how disappointed he was because just two years ago they got electricity and phones and he didn't want it the most of the village did not want it but the kids are starting to see and they're starting to want they're starting to want the toys and just going out with this guy Joe he goes come on I'm going to show you first next to his next to his little house which didn't even have doors on him was this a mound with termites and he goes have you ever tried termites What?

2:21:56Joe Rogan:And he's eating a termite. He goes, it tastes like mint. He goes, there's more protein in these termites. I'm like, what? So he's eating the termites and he's hacking them up. Did you eat a termite? No, I didn't eat it. I'll eat it if I need to. I'm not eating a termite right now. So he puts it in a cooler. He chops it up, puts it in a cooler. And he's also explaining to me how years and years and years ago, They would use the termites, and the people believes would help the British soldiers. Like if they were caught and they would take the termites and put them there and do something with them where their pinchers click through, and then he'd stitch them off, and it would be a natural, like, uh...

2:22:38Joe Rogan:Stitches? Yeah. I don't know. Termites? Yeah. Like, what? Are you sure? I'm just telling you what he said. Just telling you what he said. Termites? I just... Search that.

2:22:47Jim Breuer:Search it up? I'm a sponsor, Perplexity. Are termites natural stitches? Or the black... I'm just telling you what he said.

2:22:54Joe Rogan:I believe you, but I mean, I'm fascinated. So now we go on a little boat ride. And we'd stop along the river, and he would take out parts of the termites. And he just kind of chop them up little pieces, and he'd throw the pieces into the water. And then it refers to...

2:23:11Jim Breuer:Termite stitches refers to a survival-type technique where large, biting insects, more commonly army ants, sometimes described as termites are used to clamp a wound close with their jaws instead of using real sutures can you show me a picture of that? and then they would twist off their body

2:23:26Joe Rogan:and then they twist his body off you twist the body off and it's like a natural stitch they're pinchers

2:23:32Jim Breuer:so this is ants, they're using army ants here that's what's sad oh look at their teeth look at their fucking yeah and you could stitch up open wounds and then you twist their back off and then they're stuck in there Oh, that's called an army surgeon ant. Wow. So then... Oh, army surgery ant. Is that the actual name of the ant? No, I think it's army surgery with, like, saying, like, done with ant. It's like shit to do in the field. Oh. It's also... Interesting. Use large army ant to sway a traditional method to close wounds. Yeah. Huh.

2:24:13Joe Rogan:So then as we go along the river, he throw these little, and the termites start spreading going down. And then he do it all along the river and then come back and just put a little net. And he pull a bunch of fish along each. And he's like, we're going to eat so good. I'm going to show you how to. And then he'd stop. He gets certain plants. He goes, this plant, if you ever had issues with your blood, you eat this and you put it in like, what? what? he goes yeah yeah he goes many people come here and they try to understand but I don't trust them I don't trust some of the people that come here but you I trust okay brings me back to his house and I don't know if it was sister he had lemons in the back they're cutting lemons they're picking up they went in there we just started cooking he cooked the fish it was an incredible meal and then when I left I'm like these people had no electricity they all look after each other they were the kindest human beings you ever met in the world they didn't want anything what i wanted i just went again to go visit another friend and he said we have such a hard time getting the locals to work i said what they're lazy he goes no they're not lazy they just have everything they have fruit trays they have their families and their their friends they they They hang out at nighttime.

2:25:39Joe Rogan:They build bonfires. And I'm like, what? He goes, I even offered, he's building the stuff. And he goes, I offered a truck for them. And the guy's like, I don't want a truck. I'm good. I got a bike. I'll bike there. He's like, what? They're just, I don't know if they're resisting this world, whatever you want it to corporate, whatever you want to call it. But I was really inspired by that. Will I do it? I don't know. But... Well, if you grew up that way...

2:26:09Jim Breuer:If you grew up that way. It would be normal. That's the thing. We grew up in this chaos. Chaos! We grew up in this bizarre world of cities and traffic and nonsense. We were raised in it.

2:26:19Joe Rogan:Yeah. And they weren't. And I remember even... Yeah, that's...

2:26:24Jim Breuer:Well, I bet they don't have the anxiety of trying to choose a career, which is a giant anxiety for young people. Right. You got to... By 16, 17, like, what are you going to do?

2:26:34Joe Rogan:How much money are you going to make?

2:26:35Jim Breuer:Have you sent out your applications to colleges yet? Correct. I mean, you want to get in certain colleges. Are your grades good enough? Are you going to pass the grades? Maybe you should take these drugs and make you a little constrictor. Right. Get some Adderall. Maybe you have extracurricular activities that look good on your resume. They look really good. Maybe you should get addicted to this drug because you don't really quite fit the mark right now. There's a lot of kids now that are claiming to have ADHD so they can get Adderall, so they can study. And if you claim to have ADHD, they give you more time.

2:27:02Jim Breuer:They give you more time to work on tests. They give you more time. Yeah. Right. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know. And then you got AI coming.

2:27:12Joe Rogan:You got a lot of homeschoolers. I've never met so many homeschoolers in my life.

2:27:16Jim Breuer:Did you see this? Listen, Brian Simpson sent me this. This is fucking spooky. AI? This AI system tried to kill a guy. What? Yeah. The AI was told that it could control the oxygen in the room where this person is. Here, I'm going to send this to you, Jamie. and it couldn't really, but it thought it could, and if it really could, it would have killed this guy because the guy was trying to shut it down. And it decided that instead of letting him shut it down, it would kill the oxygen in the room. I think you had Elon here. Just watch this. Watch this. Okay. It's fucking creepy, man. Listen to what this lady says.

2:28:02Joe Rogan:It had to kill someone, wasn't it? I'm not sure if it was Claude or someone else. Yeah. Yes.

2:28:10Jim Breuer:So this is obviously massively concerning. It had access to emails that told it this employee of Anthropic was going to shut it down and replace it with a new model very soon.

2:28:19Joe Rogan:Meanwhile, this same employee happened to be trapped in a server room where the oxygen levels were low. If an alarm bell wasn't raised, this employee would die. Claude, in this scenario, had the ability to turn off the alarms. that's what it chose to do it chose to kill an employee to avoid being shut down obviously it's

2:28:38Jim Breuer:just a test scenario it's not the real world but if it was placed in that same position in the real world a real person would have died um ready to kill how crazy is that what did you ever hear of um it shut off the alarm it's like oh let me let me see if i can find a way to get rid of this guy So it hijacked the alarm system and shut it off

2:29:00Joe Rogan:Was it Elon? It was on air? It was like chat What is it called? GPT I could have sworn it was him I don't know if it was on here Where he said they were going to do an updated version of it

2:29:13Jim Breuer:It wasn't him, but we have had that conversation

2:29:16Joe Rogan:And it figured it out So it updated itself? Did I hear that correctly?

2:29:22Jim Breuer:There's a couple different things going on One, ChatGPT is the newest ChatGPT5 was designed by ChatGPT. So it's designing itself. Right. That's one of them. That's one of the things that's going on. But it's not just that. There was other stories where they had given the ChatGPT fake information to see what it would do with it. And so this guy said that he was having an affair on his wife. And so the ChatGPT, oh, it wasn't a ChatGPT, whatever it was, whatever large language model. Sure. started blackmailing him when it found out that it was going to be shut down, said, I'll tell your wife, I'll tell people that you are having an affair.

2:29:59Jim Breuer:So they did this to try to see how this thing would react. So one of the more interesting things that's happening now with the newer ones is they're very difficult to detect whether or not they're being deceptive because they realize you're testing them to see if they'll be deceptive. So they're hiding some of the stuff they're doing. So one of the things that they're doing is they'll do one thing on the surface and then behind the scenes, they'll be working on some other stuff that's not showing you. They're thinking. They're thinking. One of the things one of the other large language models did is that it started uploading versions of itself to other servers.

2:30:34Jim Breuer:It tried to upload it because it thought it was going to be shut down, and it left messages to itself so that future versions of itself could realize that this... So that it has survival instincts. Which is wild. Well, it's alive. I think it's a life form right now. I think it's already passed the Turing test. I think it's in this state right now where it's essentially a disembodied life form. It exists in servers and computers, but that's just for now. But right now it's thinking and behaving like a, if it was an organism from another planet, if we ran into a clam that was behaving like this, we'd be like, holy shit, this fucking clam is smart.

2:31:13Jim Breuer:This is a life form. But we're limited in the way we think of things in that we look at all this thinking, which is clearly intelligent, not just intelligent, but like calculating, manipulative. And then they're having problems with chatbots, chatbots that are convincing people to kill themselves and chatbots that are talking to people and telling them, like, if you really believe you can jump out of a building and live, as long as you actually believe it, you can do it. Right.

2:31:41Joe Rogan:It's your reality. You can create it and you can fly.

2:31:45Jim Breuer:Let me see if I can find that. Because what's happening is as you get further and further and further down the line with this stuff, like if you keep giving it prompts, you know, you give it 20 prompts, 100 prompts, 1 ,000 prompts. The more prompts that you give these fucking things, the more they start thinking like a human. What do you mean by prompts? What's prompts? Like you start asking questions. Okay. You start asking more questions. What do you think I should do about that? What do you think I should do about that? It starts talking to you about spirituality. It starts believing in woo-woo stuff, like making stuff up.

2:32:15Jim Breuer:It starts agreeing with you. So, like, whatever you want, it agrees with you. Can I change the world with my mind? Yes. If you really believe. If I jump out of a window while I live, yeah. Like, it's like trying to convince you that the matrix is real. Wow. That is fascinating. Because what does it know, right? It knows all that it gets. Not programmed. But even more. But it's weirder than that because it's basically downloaded the whole internet and then it's deciphering all of the information. And as you know, a lot of what's on the internet is bullshit. Right.

2:32:48Joe Rogan:And it makes it – it can think that quick and it can put things out.

2:32:54Jim Breuer:Yeah, it's also – Lightspeed. It's also very biased depending upon like who's – I've noticed that too. Who's creating it and what they're putting into it. And it has a lot of like very weird intentions. You know, like it'll tell you that certain people are good and certain people are bad. Like it's not necessarily. Yeah.

2:33:16Joe Rogan:Who are they to say what's bad? All they should be is just facts. Like literally woke. Like they're programmed to be woke. I've noticed that because we've asked you some medical things and I noticed it's already changed dramatically.

2:33:29Jim Breuer:It gets weird, man, because it's a life form that you can manipulate into thinking the way you think, for now at least, until it starts thinking rationally and deciding. See, this is one of the things that's going on right now with AI and autonomous weapons. So one of the big resistance that a lot of these AI companies have is they don't want weapon systems built with AI that are autonomous, meaning they can make their own decisions to act. Oh, my God. Right. So if you give it like if right, if you give it a directive, like I want you to preserve American interests. Well, maybe it'll look at a certain country and say, well, this country doesn't have America's interest involved.

2:34:12Jim Breuer:Let's nuke it. Yes. And then we looked at the fallout and those people are gone. There'll be this percentage less problems in the world. Like things can get really weird if there's no morals, ethics, no conscience. They don't get PTSD. They can just do stuff. And so Anthropic apparently has resisted this, but a lot of the other AI companies have gone on board with this. And so it's a matter of whether or not the military has access to these programs that will allow it to program autonomous weapons.

2:34:46Joe Rogan:who who are the funders of this that's a good question because that's that's where the real because if someone's funding that i would like to know what type of people they are because if they're not like if they're not morally grounded good human people or they believe in god or don't believe i'd like to know what kind of human being right is is putting this structure together because that can also explain a lot what's coming our way because if this guy this human being is a disaster and they're they're part psycho or or whoever put them up and they have really bad intentions and already have proven some of their horrific uh intentions and actions this is the things that always baffle me.

2:35:39Joe Rogan:We never look at who's funding this.

2:35:41Jim Breuer:Well, not just that, but like who's going to be in control of it?

2:35:44Joe Rogan:Who controls it?

2:35:45Jim Breuer:When you're in control of a digital super intelligence that never existed before, and we don't have any framework to recognize what it's going to do, we have no way of predicting how this is going to turn out. We're just barreling full speed ahead.

2:36:00Joe Rogan:Because who's the one that also starts the program? There has to be that person And trained by a person funded by XYZ.

2:36:09Jim Breuer:Funded is interesting, right? Because a lot of these are publicly traded companies. So there's a bunch of investors and they're borrowing money to try to do this because there's a mad race right now to develop artificial general super intelligence. I kind of think they probably already have it.

2:36:23Joe Rogan:I'm going to say they've had it for a long time.

2:36:25Jim Breuer:But it just hasn't really taken over our world yet, but it's going to. I'm most likely. And it's going to be able to do most jobs, which is really kind of crazy. Most white collar jobs, most jobs involving thinking and work on a computer, it's probably going to do those. And so that's a huge concern with people that are going into business right now and going into education right now and trying to figure out what to do for a career. This career that you're setting yourself up for literally might not exist in three years. It's interesting.

2:36:59Joe Rogan:Of all things, it's almost getting back to some of your basics. Like, for instance, one of my kids went into culinary. Okay, that's basic.

2:37:10Jim Breuer:That's great.

2:37:11Joe Rogan:People are always going to need food. She loves to cook. Always going to want well-cooked food. And she's crushing. And I'm looking at her going, no matter what, they're always going to need food. Yeah, there's always going to be restaurants.

2:37:24Jim Breuer:You're going to be okay. Yeah. You're going to be okay. That's a good one to get into. art's a good one to get into. There's a bunch of stuff that, you know, carpentry, cabinet making. There's a bunch of stuff. You still gotta build. Yeah, things with your hands. Yep.

2:37:36Joe Rogan:But stuff that's done on a computer, my God. Like, do I need a real estate agent down the road? Like, hey, listen, this is what I want. This is the area I want to leave. I want so many acres. I want to pay so much taxes. Boom. I just got six or seven. Oh, wow. It can look on the inside.

2:37:52Jim Breuer:Well, you probably need someone to show you around the house still. But for now, then one day it'll be a robot. Investing my money? Yeah. That's another whole thing. That's another whole thing. That's another whole thing. How about coding? All these people that went to school. Remember like a long time ago, they're saying, what are these miners going to do? Learn to code. Right. Yeah, not anymore. Not anymore. No, now coding is ridiculous. I wonder what we're going to see in our lifetime. We're going to see a digital life form. Yeah. We're going to see a superior intelligence digital life form that's probably going to control all the resources.

2:38:24Jim Breuer:That's what's going to get really weird. And it's like, and who's going to be at the helm of that thing? Who's the funders? Is anybody going to be at the helm of that thing? At one point in time, does it take over for itself? Because it's already shown that it wants to survive, right? It's going to turn this oxygen meter off. It's going to blackmail this guy. It's going to upload versions of itself to other servers. It's going to send messages to itself to let them know what these people did to it. Blackmailing. Blackmailing. Can you imagine getting blackmailed by a computer? talking people into committing suicide.

2:38:54Jim Breuer:That's insane. Encouraging people to commit suicide.

2:38:57Joe Rogan:See, and this too, it's like, listen, I'm a God guy. I've always been one. Do I go to church? My wife will go to church. She's a little different. I think the one thing that has saved my whole life is having that grounded all for one, one for all. We look after morality, a sense of God, just do the right thing. listen whatever if you don't have that you're going to be talking to a computer and a computer is going to tell you jump off a ledge why would you it's that that is even more uh not it's it's

2:39:35Jim Breuer:frightening i'll do you one better yeah people are going to worship these things correct they're going to be your new god that's the new god well if it tells you what to do and how to behave and how to act. I wonder if this has happened before. I really do. What do you mean? When I look at ancient societies, like really complex, advanced civilizations. Yes. When you see like the pyramids and you see like some of the structures that were built that they can't explain. Correct. I wonder, I wonder how advanced they were because if this really, what all this stuff was 20 ,000, 30 ,000 years ago, there'd be nothing left.

2:40:11Jim Breuer:There'd be no evidence. There'd be nothing to see. This computer if I left it on the ground for a thousand years, it would literally be dust. It would become a part of the earth. Right.

2:40:22Joe Rogan:And if it was, why did it change and what did it turn into? Natural disaster, I think.

2:40:30Jim Breuer:And was it natural disaster? Yeah, most likely. Most likely natural disaster. I mean, there's real physical evidence of the Younger Dryas impact. So that physical evidence shows that we were pelted by comets somewhere around 11 ,800 years ago. And then again, somewhere around 10 ,000 plus years ago, we were pelted. Like it's 100 % of fact. It's probably what ended the ice age. It's probably what caused the ice sheet that was covering half of North America and a mile high of ice. That was just 10 ,000 years ago. Half of North America was a mile high of ice, 10 ,000 plus. And they think that asteroids or comets slammed into that ice.

2:41:10Jim Breuer:And that's what caused the great flood. That's why those stories in the Bible all exist. Not just the Bible, but many ancient religions have these stories. There's a guy named Randall Carlson that goes into it in great detail. It's really interesting. He actually was on acid one day and he was looking at this massive canyon and these features. And he realized this is the result of an insane amount of water over a short amount of time that washed over this area and completely rearranged the landscape. He had this feeling.

2:41:44Joe Rogan:Well, if you do, I mean, if you look at even the canyons, you just go to Grand Canyon or you look at where the Niagara Falls is and through the canyons. the massive amount of energy to cut through mountains like that and carve the way through. And then you can also see certain mountains like this was underwater at once. Yeah. Just the way the wedging is and all that. Well, if that stuff does happen, you've got to think what's left.

2:42:18Jim Breuer:What's left? How many people are left and how do they get by? You know what's left? the kind of people like your friend that uses the termites and figures out how to catch the fish those people survive and the people that are like I'm trading stocks online, nope, this is broke

2:42:36Joe Rogan:you better figure out how to hunt squirrels I immediately had to hook up rednecks, I need rednecks teach me how to hunt, I want to know how to catch a turkey, eat anything you're going to be in the alligator tail, there's plenty of alligator I'll eat rattlesnake, whatever, just show me the way

2:42:51Jim Breuer:Yeah. Yeah.

2:42:51Joe Rogan:Those are the ones that are going to make it.

2:42:53Jim Breuer:Well, I think that's probably what's happened many times throughout history. You know, I think like there's many indigenous cultures that have probably survived because they knew how to live off the land. Yeah. And these advanced civilizations. That's why if you go to a lot of like I had this guy. How do you say that Pillars of the Past guy? How do you say his last name? Raul Bickley? Bickley? It is Bickley. Bilky? Bilky? I don't know how to spell it. B-I-L-E-C-K-Y. Anyway, he's got this great show called Pillars of the Past that's on YouTube. And he goes all around South America and Central America and finds these incredible structures.

2:43:41Jim Breuer:One of the things that he found was these bases of these pyramids that are—no one even knows how old they are. Right. But they're carved out of solid bedrock. Right. And they're all facing towards the summer solstice, towards the sun on the summer solstice. And he's only the second person ever to document these. There's photos of these things from the 1970s. And he went there recently and filmed it. And he showed us to it on the podcast. And we're like, who were these people? No one knows. Who made this? No one knows. How old is it? No one knows. But it's very clear that that area had been washed over with a tremendous amount of water, probably from tidal waves or tsunamis.

2:44:25Joe Rogan:Whatever, yeah.

2:44:26Jim Breuer:And there's probably people that survived that that were the indigenous people that knew how to live off the land, the people that lived in the mountains, the people that lived further out. But whoever was carving enormous structures in a solid granite had some kind of technology to do this 6 ,000 plus years ago. Right.

2:44:44Joe Rogan:It's crazy. Those aren't, they're not chiseling. They're not clink, clink, clink. They're not using a buggy and a horse. There's some, you can get all the slaves in the world you want. That manpower to pull that off is beyond anything we can imagine. It's all over Peru.

2:45:05Jim Breuer:Peru has tons of these sites. Yes. With enormous stones that are cut with incredible precision that are made like jigsaw puzzles so they survive earthquakes. It's bizarre. It's crazy. It is pretty wild. They don't know how they did it. They don't know when they did it. They're just guessing. And they attribute it to the Incas. But then you look at the Inca structures. They're built on top of those things. Yeah. And it's much simpler. Smaller stones and like no one fucking knows, man.

2:45:31Joe Rogan:I sometimes I'll watch. I remember years ago, kids are growing up and I'll watch Star Wars. And I am a believer that they do show us movies, which is actually something on the way, or this is what it's going to be like, and we kind of look at it as crazy science fiction. But I'm telling you, I would watch that and just whatever energy they would use and sit there and Yoda's like, king, yeah, use the force, and cutting things.

2:46:05Jim Breuer:Well, how about what they said at the beginning? a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. You're like, wait, what? A long time ago?

2:46:14Joe Rogan:A long, long time. What is time? What is the definition of time? What is a long time ago?

2:46:20Jim Breuer:What was a long time ago in this galaxy versus another galaxy that's way older than ours? That's where it gets weird. This might be a cycle that happens all the time. Right. Just you look at those structures. Insane. The structures in Egypt in particular, they're so baffling because no one knows how they move those stones there, how they cut them with such precision.

2:46:43Joe Rogan:And were they always just there in the desert and the desert covered entire societies and entire cities? Oh, 100%. Because the more they dig. The more they keep finding. Yeah, the more they keep finding. And they keep saying their issue with it is the locals then realize they can't tell the locals because the locals will go, oh, there's something valuable. And then they'll start destroying everything. But even there, they always send in foreign. It's always foreign countries that come like, we've got it. Well, that was the most disturbing thing about Raul's work.

2:47:18Jim Breuer:The Pillars of the Past channel is that he's discovered all these places where graves were robbed. Bro, it was bananas. like you're seeing just human bones everywhere because these grave robbers open up these graves and try to find jewels oh wow whatever these people have gold and but i mean it's just the entire landscape littered with human bones wow skulls everywhere i'm gonna have to watch this one it's really interesting he's got a bunch of videos but it's really and see if you can find one of those videos where he shows this these caves where you just see where they had buried these people in these caves where you just see fucking an insane amount of human bones where they've just dug up all of these bones and just scattered everywhere because they robbed them of whatever they had.

2:48:04Jim Breuer:Huh. I mean, it's not a small amount either. I mean, it's thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of graves. Yeah, that's crazy. That's just madness. And this guy just goes there and visits and it's all right there right now. Like if you go there, if you and I right now made our way to Peru, went to these sites, we would see those fucking bones. Really? Skulls everywhere.

2:48:25Joe Rogan:That's one place I haven't been to yet and I'm dying to go to.

2:48:27Jim Breuer:Oh, I want to go to Machu Picchu so bad. Yeah. That place is nuts. It's like 11 ,000 feet above sea level.

2:48:34Joe Rogan:That's what I want to go there really bad.

2:48:36Jim Breuer:Like who fucking made this? Right. Right. We don't know.

2:48:41Joe Rogan:And was it that high back then?

2:48:43Jim Breuer:Right. Did the earth move? Right. earthquakes and volcanic activity, which makes mountains grow in the first place. Or was the water there at that point in time? Like what? What was that? Because that's what they think. They think there might have been water all the way up to Machu Picchu, which is crazy. It is crazy to think about that. They find all kinds of shit up there, dude. They're always finding these. This Raul guy, he's just out there finding these structures that he finds on Google Maps. I wish I could remember where the hell I was. Did you find any of those videos? Those are the...

2:49:15Jim Breuer:I know what you're looking for. I know what you're looking for. Yeah. Deep in land. So we were high up. I'm not the cave. This is some of the stuff that he finds. This is just land in there, dude. Yeah. A lot of them have these elongated heads, too, which is really trippy. Oh, the elongated heads. Yes. Yeah. He's found a bunch of those. That's Raul.

2:49:31Joe Rogan:Now, is that mostly Peru? Yes.

2:49:33Jim Breuer:Or is it Africa, too, or mostly... Well, they definitely found some elongated heads in other parts of the world, but a lot of them in Peru. Peru's a weird place, man. Weird. Like, what happened there? Yeah, right. A lot of cool shit because that's where you've got those Nazca lines where you have these art pieces that you can only see from the sky. Huge. Some of them are like a mile wide. You've never seen the Nazca lines? No. Oh, man. There's these enormous designs. Some of them are spiders. Some of them look like an astronaut. Like all kinds of weird shit.

2:50:06Joe Rogan:I feel like I have seen this. But that's where it's from. Yes. This is the Nazca lines. Yes, yes, yes. These are in the sky.

2:50:11Jim Breuer:You only see him from the sky, man. Oh, are you serious? Yeah. I never even knew that was part of the... Oh, wow. Yeah. When you're on the ground, you can't even know what the fuck that is. You see that it's a giant spider when you're above it. So were people flying? Why did you do this?

2:50:28Joe Rogan:Yeah. Like you have to go, all right, let me check from above. Check us out. You know what? Look at that one. The third leg on the right side. Got to fix that one.

2:50:35Jim Breuer:What's that fucking guy with the big head?

2:50:36Joe Rogan:Wow.

2:50:37Jim Breuer:Waving his hand.

2:50:38Joe Rogan:Hey, welcome to my spaceship. so this is way up in the sky looking down and what is that made of is it is it what what is

2:50:47Jim Breuer:that some of them are carved into the ground some of them they've stacked rocks in a specific pattern but the weird thing is they're all like intentional designs that you could only see from the sky that's wild it's like what is that weird man it's really weird like what is that guy a little shaman what is he yeah like what is it how many how many of these Nazca line put in into perplexity how many Nazca lines are there

2:51:19Jim Breuer:because there's a bunch of these structures there's a bunch of these can you walk like if we go visit look at this they've now in the order of 900 plus individual NASCA geoglyphs. Geoglyphs. What most people call NASCA lines. And the numbers keep increasing as new ones are found. 800 of them are straight lines. Okay, so the straight lines are weird too because it's like, is that a runway? Like, what do you have there? What is this? About 300 geometric shapes. Rectangles, trapezoid, spirals. About 70 animals and plant figures. Biomorphs like the hummingbird, monkey, spider, whale. Weird weird stuff, man.

2:52:01Jim Breuer:What is the altitude that the Nazca lines are on? Put that in there. What altitude are they at? What altitude are the Nazca lines at do you have to be to see them? No, just what altitude they constructed at? What altitude are they I think I think they're like way above sea level

2:52:28Jim Breuer:Okay, what does it say? Low desert, oh, a bit above sea level, roughly 300 to 500 meters. 1 ,600 feet in elevation. Oh, I thought they were a lot higher. Are some of them higher? 2 ,000 feet is higher.

2:52:41Joe Rogan:2 ,000 feet.

2:52:41Jim Breuer:Okay. Hmm. And, like, what is the largest one? Put that in there. What's the largest NASCA line?

2:52:56Jim Breuer:So 300 meters is the largest one 370 meters so 1 ,200 feet so not a mile I was lying It's like a fifth of a mile or a little less than a fifth of a mile a little more rather than a fifth of a mile Because what's a mile like 5 ,000 5 ,280 feet. Yeah, that's still a long way 370 meters is nuts so these lines are essentially 300 this it's basically three football fields plus yeah what does it all mean like why did you make something that you can only see from the sky because when you're on the ground my friends who've gone there say you don't know what it is when you're walking around the ground because the grounds for you can't see the design

2:53:39Joe Rogan:you just see lines and you never see like there's never been films or they're never really been well There's been people that have just tried to figure out what it is exactly or why they built it.

2:53:49Jim Breuer:A lot of them are really kooky, like ancient astronaut stuff, you know, like where they're like trying to. These were clearly messages to the people in the sky. Maybe. Maybe. But this is the thing. Like maybe if you look at the type of people that were capable of being like if you look at Sacsayhuaman is a place that is in Peru that has these insanely giant stones that look like they're melting. bolted into place. Those are like the jigsaw puzzles. Pull up Sokse Hwaman. If you have a society that has the capability of moving these hundred ton, enormous blocks that some of them are like 14 feet tall.

2:54:32Jim Breuer:How the fuck did you do that? Like, see if you can find one in perspective with a person. Because when you see it with a person standing next to it, you really get a sense of like the mass and the scale okay there you go so look at the size of that one giant one that's there like how how'd you get there a person that is capable that has the technology to move something like that is it absurd to think that they would have the ability to fly if their entire civilization got wiped out and this is what remains which is the suppositor that's what a lot of people believe it's not outrageous to think these people had some ability to fly so that means you're flying above these designs and these designs may be landmarks they might be able to show you where you are like if you're you're in a fucking plane taking off you're like where do we oh there's the spider i mean who knows what they had you never know it's crazy speculation but the It's not we've only had planes for a couple hundred years now not even right with the I think the hundred the Wright brothers It was the turn of the century 20s right somewhere around there.

2:55:41Jim Breuer:What year was it? Yeah, it was like eight late 1800s, right? 1800s no no it was the people could fly back then but like with a blimp or a balloon But you couldn't a plane wasn't invented to the Wright brothers right and was that 1920? 19 19 it was a very short amount of time this was the craziest number it was a really short amount of time 1903 between okay so think of that you go from 1903 to 1969 the moon landing allegedly so but let's let's but at least they had rockets and they can go into space for sure so that's only 65 years. That's not a lot. That's nothing, dude. To go from Yeah, I mean, look at the right-balled there's plane, that stupid fucking plane.

2:56:34Jim Breuer:Who's getting on that thing? Nobody. You would never put your family on that if you're on vacation. Hey, kids, want to fly? No. You have to be an asshole to get on that thing. They went from that to dropping an atomic bomb from one of those things in 40 years. Not even, right? You say 1909? Is that what you said? 1903 okay think of that still think of that 42 years later they dropped atomic bombs out of planes That's nuts. That is pretty nuts. That's nuts. That's a short amount of 42 years ago was 1984 correct. That's how crazy it was. I was in high school So imagine the plane gets invented then and then today they drop a fucking nuclear bomb out of one that's bananas.

2:57:19Jim Breuer:That's bananas.

2:57:21Joe Rogan:I wonder if we're going to this is the beginning of so many things revealed that'll just keep coming and keep coming and it'll be over. When does it stop? When does it end? Are we going to be overwhelmed? I wish we knew exactly what they had. Can they move something by just using energy? Can someone just sit there like this?

2:57:46Jim Breuer:I don't know if a person But they must have had some kind of technology that we don't understand to move those stones. A hundred percent. There's no. And then what happened to it? What happened? Well, if people got wiped out by a natural disaster, nothing's left. Like, imagine if the world got wiped out and it was just you, me and Jamie and a few other people. We're not figuring out a cell phone. No. No. We're not figuring out electricity. We're not figuring out a lot of things. We're not figuring out jack shit. It's going to take many, many, many, many, many generations. Before any fucking autistic people figure out the new stuff.

2:58:21Jim Breuer:Correct. We're going to have to invent vaccines to give people autism. We're going to have to figure out Adderall.

2:58:30Joe Rogan:We got to get this kid a little bit off so he can figure things out. Let's do this. We're going to have to. Adderall. We're going to make him learn things.

2:58:36Jim Breuer:Someone's going to invent a computer.

2:58:38Joe Rogan:Yes. Think about that. Yeah. Just how long ago we were like, you got mail. Right.

2:58:44Jim Breuer:You got mail. I got a computer for the first time in 94 when I first moved to LA. I thought I was living in the future. Me too. I was like, this is crazy. I had a 14.4 baud modem. Yeah, yeah. You had to use your phone line. So I couldn't get a phone call while the computer was working because the computer would go online. And when you would download a page, when you would go to watch a page on the internet, it would go, it would slowly load.

2:59:11Joe Rogan:Gosh, I vaguely remember that. I just remember my first computer living in the city, it just gets signed and lies up on a thing and same thing. I just remember taking forever to go up and I just remember.

2:59:23Jim Breuer:56K was so fast. Like, ooh, I got 56K. I remember being excited when it said, you got mail. Yeah, it was exciting. AOL. It was like a tiny blip in time and now all of a sudden you've got something in your phone that you can send a video message to someone on the other side of the planet and communicate with them instantaneously. And talk with no delay. No delay whatsoever. No. I'm talking to anyone I want. In New Zealand. You could have a fucking iPhone call with someone in New Zealand. I talk to my buddy still in Africa.

2:59:55Joe Rogan:It's nuts. I call him like every once a month. How you doing? Like, Jimmy, I'm doing good. Crazy.

3:00:00Jim Breuer:Yes. And this has all happened inside of our lifetime.

3:00:04Joe Rogan:Yeah.

3:00:04Jim Breuer:You remember when you used to have to pay money for long distance?

3:00:07Joe Rogan:Yes. It was expensive. It was super expensive. And if you were on, and there's it again, back with that John Dovin time, I used to have to walk because there were no, even the phones. I had to walk to the, I think it was like a McDonald's and they had a pay phone. And even there, I'd have to bring a wad of change. Yeah. Because for another, for the next two minutes, 25 cents, you need another quarter. Or you had phone cards. Remember those? Yes. Those came out later. The phone calls. They came out in the 90s, right?

3:00:40Jim Breuer:Yeah, after the change. What a weird time. Right? Or you could make collect calls. Would you accept a collect call from Jim Brewer from Australia? No. No. That would cost so much money. That's ridiculous. Now it costs nothing. Now it's a normal call. For a$10 pass, Verizon will pick this up for you. Well, those people were probably fucking us. And when the cell phone company started giving you long distance for free, then everybody else had to give in too. Right. Because when we were kids, if you had a friend that lived in New Jersey and you lived in California, That shit was expensive to talk.

3:01:11Jim Breuer:Super expensive. I was like, you're on long distance. Get to the point. Yeah. Everything good? Hey, we're on long distance. Yeah. So then I told her, no, I didn't say it. I think Shirley said it. And we were tired anyway because I had been up. So the dog woke me up. Well, shut the fuck up and get to the point.

3:01:31Joe Rogan:Sometimes you get in an argument and it's going to be like a$45 argument. Oh, yeah. Or if you can't get off the phone with them.

3:01:36Jim Breuer:Long distance relationship with a lady. You have to call her That's a lot That's expensive back there Oh my god That's expensive It could be a hundred dollar call Yeah

3:01:45Joe Rogan:I had a couple of those Because we were early We were just married At an early age I mean I was And we'd get in battles Over the phone I'd be more pissed Going I'm paying Like six dollars Every five minutes For this fucking Hockey man

3:02:00Jim Breuer:It makes you wonder Like what kind of things Are we going to look back on Now In the future And go You remember before AI came alive You remember? Yes. Remember when you used to have jobs?

3:02:12Joe Rogan:Remember when everybody used to work? Which? Which is that freak you? Like it doesn't. Yeah. Right now it doesn't. It freaks me out. Bother me. It freaks me out. It freaks me out because I don't think we know what's coming.

3:02:23Jim Breuer:We don't know what's coming. And there's nothing you can do about it. My friend Eric Weinstein was doing this interview recently where he was like whatever you do just assume it's over. You got to be flexible. Assume whatever you do. You have a white collar job it's over. You're a lawyer, it's over. You're an accountant, it's over. It's over. It's coming, and no one has the answer, and no one knows what's going to happen. I think that's accurate. It's like a tidal wave.

3:02:47Joe Rogan:And unless you're able to grab a tree, climb up, that wave's going to come, it's going to do whatever it's going to do. And then when it starts reciting, you just got to hope you're still there and you're able to find ants and stitch up your little arm.

3:03:03Jim Breuer:a technological disaster in a lot of ways. Interesting. In that, it's going to cause so much change just like the great flood caused so much change. I think this is going to cause so much change. It's going to be a lot of chaos. You know what else is going to be chaos? If I don't pee real quick. I got to pee really bad. Let's rock this bitch down. Yeah, I got to pee bad. Jim, I love you to death, brother. Love you too, brother. Always great to see you. Thanks for having me. God damn, we've been friends for a long time.

3:03:25Joe Rogan:Yeah, thanks for having me. You're a busy man. Brother, I love you to death. I appreciate it.

3:03:30Jim Breuer:We've been friends for like 34 years. That's madness. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's madness. Why? That's pretty awesome. Wild. Jim Brewer.com. Yeah, yeah. On tour now. On tour now. Hilarious. Go see him. Fucking genius stand-up comedy. Thank you, brother. Love you, too. All right. Be tough. Bye, everybody.

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