#2486 - Luis J Gomez

24:24Yeah, there was a good That was real scary. That was a scary time just like in general to like it was it was a great time for podcasting Podcasting blew up during COVID. It was huge. Everyone just stayed at home. Everyone was like, what are we going to do? We have nothing else to do except sit on the internet and listen to podcasts. But yeah, it was like just a weird uncertain time. Even physically in life it was uncertain. And then you go on the internet and it's like, oh, I could just lose everything. They could just take it away like that. All these platforms. I do all of my own things specifically because I am terrified that my things are going to be taken away from me.

25:00Yeah, so I have my own platforms my own festival. We were really smart about that early on with gas digital such a good idea Thanks such a good idea and it's also like your family base your fan base is so loyal and so rabid Yeah, you know because they're signed they're like invested financially. Oh, yeah, and it's there It's a better relationship honestly in a lot of ways. What's funny is when we started it it wasn't It wasn't even completely necessary was funny as patreon hadn't even didn't it existed, but it was like You know guitar players asking for tips there was nobody podcasting on patreon We started the platform uncensored ad free for you know behind a paywall.

25:35We were unique There was really no Anthony Cumia did it There was a couple people that were right their thing and Anthony did it specifically because he was fired from XM Yeah, and he had he had to um, but we did and it wasn't even like it wasn't crazy back then But the way everything became censored and you know There's all these ads on YouTube if there's so much it's feels so like It feels commercial it feels like you're watching TV in the late 90s when you're watching YouTube now right now more than ever There's a need for an uncensored ad free platform and there's not many of them. No 100 % I think you did the smartest thing by doing that and so here's the argument the argument is like That if it's everywhere like if it's on YouTube, but it's on Spotify it's on everywhere Then there's more potential for growth because it's easier to access that is true And it's also it's way easier to promote because people could just send each other like it's natural The algorithms will push it which is yeah There's that but it is also sharing yeah Like if I have if someone has got a good podcast, I'll share it with my friends You gotta listen this hilarious and what so that you can't do that if it's a pay platform So like you'd have to get someone to sign up funny is we we were so early on a lot of these things I give myself a lot of credit here because we like before you could screen record on your phone Mm-hmm.

26:52We had in our app. We had a tool where you can clip clips to share them To social media so you could do it was like limited to like two or three clips per episode. Oh, that's great It worked is it um never worked really was there a time limit on the clips a minute or two? Oh, that's a problem. That's a problem. Yeah, because like you want like at least eight Yeah, you know cuz like especially if there's a funny back and forth between you guys Yeah, like if you're doing legions of skanks and you guys are going off about something Yeah, you need a little more than a couple of minutes. You gotta sink your teeth into it.

27:21Yeah It's otherwise that's the best way to take things out of context, too You're telling me boy people love doing that. Yeah, they love doing that But it's also it's like we're gonna ask everybody to listen to three hours of a podcast It's crazy you got to expect that things are gonna get taken out of context. It's part of the game You know, it's part of the thing we do. Yeah, I um And nobody really wants a context even when they find out the context here They've been like, well, I already were saying before I've moved on from that opinion. Yeah, nobody cares. Tomorrow it's another day. Nobody really cares about anything, to be honest with you.

27:56It's like the way that the internet has turned people into just like whatever's in front of them, that's what they care about. I mean, the amount of things that were such a big deal a month ago. I mean, ICE was such a huge deal two months ago. We haven't heard anything about ICE since then. It was the Ukraine. What happened to the Ukraine? That war's still going on, I believe. Nobody gives a shit. It's still going on. It's just, it's not sexy right now. Yeah. You know, it's like Law & Order Special Victims Unit, you know, season 50. Yeah. It's like, okay. You know what I mean? We've seen every angle on rape already.

28:30It's like, it's still going to be a big show. You know, it's still important. It's top 10. Yeah. But it's, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's not the number one thing that we're concerned with. Whereas when it popped off, when Russia invaded, it was like the end of the world. Yeah. And then there was people, I literally heard people saying that Ukraine should have never given up its nukes. And I was like, okay, I could see what you're saying. I could see what you're saying. Like, if they had nukes, Russia probably wouldn't invade them. But ultimately, that means we're threatening you with nukes.

29:01That's the scariest thing ever. That's fucking crazy. The whole thing's crazy. But it's also, it's like, why did this happen? Did NATO pushing arms closer and closer to Russia have no impact on this? Nobody can hit Texas or New York, though, right? Like, Hawaii's fucked. Oh, they can hit New York. What do you mean? They can hit New York? Oh, yeah, they can hit New York. You think so? Fuck yeah. With a nuke? Yeah, 100%. I read something a while ago that they can only reach Hawaii. Or I guess it wasn't anyone. It was, who was it? Was it Russia or China or something? One of them. They could only hit Hawaii.

29:33I had a bit about it in my act, and I was like, whew. We had a guy on that was talking about back-engineering UFO technology And that they had this idea of using it to what they would call an instantaneous delivery system of a nuclear bomb. Because the way these things supposedly can travel, I'm a moron, so I don't understand anything about gravity. But what they were explaining is that if these crafts work in a way that has no normal kind of propulsion. We think of propulsion as like a jet. The fire goes out the back and the jet goes forward really fast because of that. Right. What they're saying is these beings from wherever the fuck they are, these people that have back engineered their crafts, the way they move is not by propulsion.

30:27It's by bending space and time. It's by doing something to the gravity around it or the actual space of the universe around it where it can go to another place like instantaneously. So it's not like it flies. It's like it just fucking zips over to another part of the universe. And they can do it like that Tic Tac one that they got on radar. They got it on the visuals. Like two different fighter pilots saw it and talked about it. They have video of it This fucking thing went from more than 50 ,000 feet above sea level to sea level in one second less than a second So it's like beep beep beep radar.

31:08It went from 50 ,000 feet to that. So if you could do that with a bomb You could essentially instantaneously detonate Moscow Wow if that's a real technology so this is probably why these assholes are hiding all this UFO information Yeah, because these assholes and probably were using the but they were like yeah, we could travel anywhere in the universe or We could blow up China without them even knowing it's happening. We could assure that we'll win a nuclear war Yeah, anybody would have that technology the ability to put something somewhere instantly and you put a bomb in it. That's Crazy. Yeah, I might be with all this UFO bullshit is about yeah I mean the who knows who knows what's going on?

31:49I mean like obviously Obviously, there's something going on, right? I think where there's smoke, there's fire. There's too much talk. Have you seen these stories about all these scientists that are getting whacked? No. Yeah, there's scientists that have gotten whacked and or missing and a couple of generals as well. That's all connected somehow or another to UFO technology and anti-gravity technology and nuclear scientists. And there's a bunch of stories that I've read about this. And some of them are like, this is like purely exaggerated. And a lot of people are it's just they're taking that this guy committed suicide and he worked on that and this guy went missing and he worked on that.

32:28But it's just coincidence. Right. And then there's other people that go. No, no, no, no. This is there's too many people. So now the White House has commented on it. So they're doing an investigation on this, which makes me think, hopefully, somebody who's really fucking smart has looked at this information and said there's something there. like what these people were working on was very extraordinary and could disrupt a market or could be something that could be used in a weapon that would destroy another country and so the other country sabotages it by killing scientists that's shit that we would do think how little we know like the amount of like yeah like you and i just human just like americans just just the general population like the amount of there's probably the craziest technology ever that the government has their hands on right now.

33:16It's like we use AI tools and it's like, I can imagine the AI that the government currently has, right? And that's why that'll never disappear. It's because all of the governments are just sort of at a race to see who can implement the strongest AI. So I can't even imagine how crazy it is. There was one lady that went missing and there's a weird video of her because it seems like she's drunk and she's like talking about like how, you know, This technology that it's real but every time they that anybody gets close to it people stop it and this lady has gone missing as well So it seems like she might have had a couple of drinks or something and then started ranting about this and some weird video call Yeah, but listen if I had that information and I thought that people were trying to kill me because I knew about anti-gravity technology And I literally thought like I'm in a Russell Crowe movie and someone's trying to fucking whack me I'd probably get drunk too.

34:10Yeah, like what are you gonna do? But she went missing, though. I was talking to two nuclear scientists after my show. Just these two, like, it was a couple. They were, like, straight-up nuclear scientists. It was Tacoma or Spokane, whatever. It's near that, like, there's a huge, like, it's like a nuclear town. Like, everyone works in, like, nuclear science in this entire town. Jesus. And he was, like, they were, like, so into telling me about, like, not too much, not too in-depth. But he was, like, you know, I work, like, 100 feet below the ground. It was like super top secret and He was like I started asking questions.

34:45He was like I can't answer that He was like they've definitely tapped our phones. Are you out of your mind? You think they're like not just listening to what we're saying to people and it was just like fucking goddamn dude I think they're listening to everything everybody's saying all the time They can't organize it. Yeah, yeah, I think it just gets stored I don't think it's like someone's listening where they can just Know every like they have a person with fucking earphone on listening to everything you say write it down. I think probably high government officials, they probably do. Probably, but now with AI, all they would have to do is record everybody's phone all the time and then use AI to search all the transcripts and then find an audio recording of you saying this or you saying that.

35:26We're probably three years away from them being able to get everything we've ever done on the internet. Yeah, but not just that. There's also AI which could take that and then have you make phone calls to people that You don't really make yeah, so you could call up one of your friends and ask him to meet you somewhere with a bag of heroin And they would all you know they would know it would like literally could use it to set people up Yeah, you could use it to get people upset about something you could have the AI have a fucking conversation with them I mean, I've been listening to you AI Joe Rogan ads on the internet for about a year now Where they just take your voice and they advertise products because you have such a recognizable voice That's pretty ridiculous, right?

36:04Yeah, a lot of people go do you use that? I go no say I but The thing is it's like they can have it talk to you now So it sounds like you yeah, you could have a conversation with you like you could AI Louis J Gomez You could talk to Louis J Gomez and it would be like you talking to yourself You'd probably lose your mind if you were schizophrenic. I did something really dark and sad one day I was super high and my mom died when I was 22 years old and then I went I prompted chat GPT I told a bunch of information about my mom and I was like I want to have a conversation with my mom on the other side about like what's going on in my life and my son and ask me questions.

36:43And I was like it was it got very like I got really emotional way more than you would think. Like I was it was kind of just a dumb thing. I was stunned. I was like let's see where this goes. I was I felt like I was talking to my mom at the end of it. It was fucking really. That's so crazy. Yeah. But here's the thing. If it gets to be a super intelligence and they program a super intelligence to behave exactly and talk exactly like your mom. And then you had conversations with her. Like it knows her voice. Yeah. That would be such a fuck it. If you're schizophrenic and that starts happening, that would be the trip.

37:18That would be the ping. We blew the last fuse. Yeah, that's it, dude. That would be it. Well, for us. Maybe that's what they're doing. For you and me, right, who we have, I mean, thousands and thousands of hours recorded, right? Oh, yeah. They could have us say anything. Well, not only just say anything. Like, when I die, I'm assuming the technology, forget when I die, like 40 years from now, like in the next few years, they can just take every opinion I've had, the way I speak, my thoughts, everything, and then they can use AI to not only just replicate what I do, but go like, well, what would he likely think?

37:50What would he likely say? If you sort of put all that data in and then eventually it's like a little fucking box sitting on the table that my son talks to. His dad never dies. His dad's always there. I think that will be a thing that regularly is happening. You're I don't know if it's like uploading the consciousness or if it's the AI replicating your consciousness. I think they've talked about that for a long time. But that I think will happen unquestionably. No doubt. Yeah. And soon. Very soon. Well, the AI that they have now, like if you put on those metaglasses, have you fucked with that? The VR goggles?

38:21Yeah. They're pretty fucking good. I mean, I just jerk off. That's it. Just giant vaginas? Well, no, it's not even a... If you have porn with VR, it must be insane. Oh, it is insane. I can't watch regular porn anymore. Don't say it that way. It made me nervous. I was looking this up just to see if it was still a thing. This is William Shatner, AI. He's sitting here waiting for us to ask him a question. And he'll just answer it in his voice. He sat there and recorded a bunch of stuff a couple years ago for this. I don't know how well it works, but ask him this. This is a little different, though.

38:57This isn't... I mean, this is just the beginning, though. This is the beginning of it. So once they really turn the AI on this, it'll be a better William Shatner. Let's ask him one random question.

39:15Didn't he have a make-out session with a green lady in Star Trek? I think he did. I think there was like some weird racial pushback. There was some weird put. Oh, he kissed Ohura. I kissed a couple of Horas too. No, no, no. He did make out with an alien, right? I'm pretty sure he kissed like a green lady or something. But he also kissed Lieutenant Ohura, who was a black lady. And during the time where they did Star Trek, I think this was very controversial. That's it. So that was in 1968. And this was very controversial that a white man and a black woman. By the way, she was beautiful. That lady that played Uhura.

40:00She's beautiful. And they thought it was weird. They thought it was offensive. It was like it was a big thing. Yeah. In like the public. I was too young. I was one years old. But I do remember this story. How much of a big deal? Remember there was that movie Jungle Fever? It was an entire movie. I mean, the entire premise of the movie was it's a black guy and a white girl. It's a racial couple. That's a movie. That's it.

40:27Okay. What is it called? Was the episode called Plato's Stepchildren? Season three, episode 10, November 22nd, 1968. Wow. Ohura played by Nichelle Nichols and Captain Kirk, William Shachner. Episodes often cited incorrectly as the first interracial kiss on television It was however the first instance in which a kiss between a black person and a white person on US television was ever scripted As an earlier kiss on moving with Nancy was unscripted. What the fuck is moving with Nancy? What is that? Nancy Sinatra special or something. Nancy kissed a black guy on TV? Is that what they're saying? That's pissing me off now.

41:08I don't know why. I bet she did it just to piss off Frank. Frank! Her father was not okay with that. I bet she did it just to piss off Frank. Let me check. Yeah, find out what she did. What the fuck happened? That's funny. It was like a variety show? So was it like her and just a singer or something? Was it a show where they would sing each other? What happened here? Sammy Davis Jr. Oh, Sammy Davis Jr. kissed her. Oh, that's... That's kind of... With her? That's what it says. But it says an interracial kiss between Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. Oh, boy. He kissed, he passionately kissed his friend's daughter.

41:50Oh, yeah. Bro, those people were freaks back then. That's hot. They were freaks. This is it. That rat pack, those guys were animals. Look at that. Oh, that's on the cheek, bro. He kissed her on the cheek. Zoom in on that. That's outrageous. That's a nice, friendly kiss. That's not a passionately kissed. Let me see that. Close in on there. Yeah. He kissed her on the cheek. Don't you think? It looks like the cheek. It looks like right here. Yeah. A little side of the head. A little, that's like a sweet thing. Yeah. Italian men do that to each other. Yeah. That's not a kiss on the lips. Yeah. That doesn't count.

42:26I say Star Trek's the first because that was like, let's get down. Yeah. Get down. Get down. Jungle boogie. It's so nuts, dude. Yeah. I mean my mom was white and my dad was like Afro-Latino, like dark skinned. He looked black. He looked like Eazy-E. I was going to show you a picture of my dad. It's crazy. That's funny. He looked straight up like Eazy-E. And it's like, yeah, I mean, even in the 80s growing up, that was kind of like, it was weird. I remember the first time I saw an interracial couple in high school. I'm 44. I'm not that old. But like, it was weird. I remember just seeing like in like the 10th grade this like hot white chick started dating this like football player black kid It wasn't that regular where I grew and I grew up an hour outside of New York City Yeah, and it was controversial to open you up to all sorts of like you get yelled at by people you get attacked.

43:16There's a lot of people that They dealt with a lot of shit back then man. Yeah Well racism is back. Don't worry Never went away, but it's it comes in waves of encouragement where people think like it's okay. It's okay to be racist. It's okay to be this, to be that. It was a weird thing where it's like a lot of us were just being ironic and funny for a while. You make racial jokes. You make jokes about anything. I think you could make a joke about anything. It's a comedian's job. And then it like shifted once like social media became so like big and everyone's opinion. You can anonymously just say whatever you want, dude.

43:54If you wanted to say something racist anonymously, you had to write it on a bathroom wall. You have to be like, I hate N-words. Right. On the wall on a marker. While you're taking a shit. And then somebody else responds to it underneath it, and they're like, well, I hate you, cracker. And then it goes. That was always fun. Like, bathroom walls were fun. Oh, yeah. A lot of great conversations were in there. A lot of great conversations were in there. You give your ex-girlfriend's phone number on the wall. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Those are the days. The original doxing. Well, that's also, that's the original message board.

44:23Yeah. It's the original YouTube comments. Right. That's original comments on an ex post is the bathroom wall. That's it. And that's the only thing. That's as far as it can go was maybe 12 people a day would see your shit anonymously. But it felt so good. Just N.I.G. I can't remember any interracial couples in high school. I can't remember any of them. Oh, no. One. I do remember one. But I do remember there was a lot of pushback, man. Like a lot of people were like openly racist about it. Yeah. It's eventually has to go away, but it's like it's going away in waves like it used to be normal Like everybody was racist.

45:04The whole world was racist. I think everyone is bigoted It was a little different a little different than racist, right? Well, everyone was tribal Right like you could only trust the hundred and fifty people that you lived with you could barely trust them You could barely trust them They're probably trying to be the tribal chief and fuck people over and fuck the chief's wife That shit's always gone on but for sure if there was a group that you didn't know and they showed up They were there to kill you Hundred percent yes bunch of guys show up there's 15 guys they show up, but you're they're trying to kill you Well also pre-internet you you had to coexist Or you had to the only people you can communicate with you go to the grocery store It's an Indian guy or a black guy or Puerto Rican guys like no I got to buy a tomato so I'm We're just gonna do we need to give you my dollar you're gonna give me a tomato and I'm gonna say This is an America in a city in the 20th century and then the 21st century Yeah, what I'm saying is we're hardwired for the olden days, right?

46:01This is why it's so easy to get people to join the team whether it be a Democrat or be a Republican or MAGA or whatever the fuck it is It's so easy because people are programmed to be in tribes, right? Yeah, and they want an identity Yeah, it's it's easier. There's an enemy. They want an enemy to you. You have a you feel like you're on a side You feel you don't really have to do much thinking exactly whatever whatever they say I agree with gives you comfort that you're surrounded by other people I used to think that when I was young when I would watch like religious preachers on television I was watching this like these Islamic guys and they were talking about Islam and the way the certainty in the fact that what they were saying was true like the way they were saying like all these other religions mean nothing because Islam is the truth and they were like yep they believed it like what I'm like it must feel great to believe something 100 % like that to really have a bunch of other people around you that also believe it hundred percent no if ands or buts yeah we've all the reality is no one knows about anything until you experience it.

47:09So you don't really know what's going to happen in heaven. If heaven's real, you don't know any of that. But you're so convinced. And my question is, by what? I wish I had any sort of spiritual faith. That's what I keep saying. Come up with a good cult. I'll join it. I just can't. Since I was a little kid, I remember just being a little kid and having the thought, God's not real. And then trying, because I was raised Catholic, like just suppressing it being like, I can't think that I'm going to burn in hell. If I even think the idea that God isn't real, it's like, what a weird psychotic thing to do to like a five-year-old kid, you know?

47:47And yeah, it's like, yeah, you, you sort of like that, the idea of faith, it actually seems like really like kind of freeing. Like the idea of like, dude, I'm going to die. And I'm going to go to the kingdom of heaven. I'm going to experience everything that I've ever wanted. I mean, that sounds incredible. It's for me. It's like, I feel like I'm counting down until I'm going to sleep forever. Like I have nothing after I really don't believe in any of that when people get into like these heated passion like debates about certain things like abortion is a great topic For this concept when you're trying to convince somebody that's religious Like to be pro-life you're like you don't understand what's going on there, dude They believe you're murdering a baby You're not going to convince somebody That like oh well, I mean let me let me try to break this down for you right now Let me try to give you a different angle on this No, they believe that that's a life at conception.

48:33They believe it's a soul They really fucking believe that deep down. And that is like, like, I kind of go like, well, I respect that. Like, I'm not going to like, I'm pro-life, right? I was raised by women and I just kind of grew up in New York. We always sort of had that sensibility. Do you mean pro-choice? Is that what you meant? I'm sorry. I'm pro-choice. I apologize. But when I, my son was born or even when I first saw the heartbeat, I remember I was like, that's a life right there. The heartbeat, that six weeks, whatever it was. I was like, that's a fucking life right there. But when you're dealing with religious people who believe that that's a soul and that it is like the second it's conceived, you're trying to convince them that it's okay to kill a baby.

49:07Right. And it's never going to happen. Yeah. No, it's never going to happen. And I don't know who's right. That's the real problem. Like for convenience sake and for living your life on your own terms sake. And see, my take on this, first of all, I'm not a woman. And if you're talking about this and there's no chance of you ever getting pregnant, that's a weird thing. Because, like, conceptually, yeah, that's a life. No doubt. I mean, not even conceptually. Objectively. That's a life. It's going to become a human. But who am I to say, especially in cases like incest and rape and, you know, crazy shit, who am I to say that you have to raise that kid, that that life has to— You have to change your body for the next nine months, maybe ever irrevocably.

50:02I mean, maybe it'll just change your body forever. Maybe you'll have stretch marks forever. Oh, yeah. Because of this. Because of this horrible thing that happened to you because everybody says that this life is precious. Every time you got to feed at breakfast, you got to fucking... If that was for men, if men got pregnant, abortion would be at gas stations. Fill it up and take it out. There's not a fucking chance in hell. That's a bit, dude. That's a bit. It was just not a chance in hell that it would be a debate. Yeah, it wouldn't be a debate if men make the laws and men could get pregnant.

50:33Men would have abortions everywhere. Yeah, there's no fucking chance. You'd be able to tell another man that he's going to have to keep a baby. No. Yeah, it's it's it's very complex. And I understand both sides of it. You know, I really do. I wouldn't when people say that's a life. You can't it's like I'm like, I really get that. And when people go like it's a woman's body and sort of race to choose if she wants to eject this from her body before a certain time. The weird thing is, like, at what point in time? Like, could you stop it when it's a clump of cells? Can you stop it when it's almost a fetus?

51:03You know what I mean? Like, it's such a human problem in that there's no it's a weird fucking sloppy concept. I think when it grows a nose. Yeah, before it grows a nose or fingers. It's gonna be a kid. It's gonna be a kid that maybe wins an Olympic gold medal. If it's got webbed fingers still. It could be a kid that is Sabrina Carpenter and is on stage in front of all those people. You know what I mean? That's the weird thing about life. It could be somebody that changes the world. It could be. Literally, yeah. Literally. If you look at child development, like month to month, when my son was being born, I was just obsessively looking at it.

51:37It starts looking like a baby way earlier than you think. And the problem is, you can still abort it when it looks like a fucking baby. And that's, it's just a... Oh, you can abort it when it is a baby. Oh, yeah. In certain cases. Well, yeah, if it's like medically. I knew a guy, his girlfriend had a late term abortion. It was horrible. Jesus. Horrible to know that like she was showing. It was. Well, there was that. This is the 90s. There was a one video that went viral a while ago. And it was like they were talking to somebody in an abortion clinic with like a hidden cell phone camera. And they were like, well, what happens if you abort the fetus, you remove the fetus and it's still alive, like on the table?

52:16And they were like, well, we would have to. At least an extinguish life or something like that. It was like pretty fucking crazy. Yeah, it's like so when the baby's out You're gonna kill them that you're just gonna kill it. It's called what it is. You're gonna kill a baby It's bonkers and that's why like you could understand why Christians would think that's demonic. Yeah I think anyone anyone would think that's you could totally understand that and to ignore that and throw it into this No, but I you know, I believe in the woman's right to choose okay me too but what's that yeah like what are we saying here like you're gonna just kill the baby when it's alive outside the womb is it viable like could it be grow up and become one of your friends like what are we doing maybe you know i'm saying it could it could that baby grow up and just live yeah and just have a wonderful life and have a great job it's fucking weird man because like what is life and why it's very precious to us because if we don't have it then we don't have a say in what's going on but we're really just a fucking bunch of atoms and particles and molecules and everything's spinning around at a different frequency that's what we really are mushrooms are kicking in joe they're not even just i'm just saying like we're so obsessed with life yeah and that's why this is such a fascinating conversation it's also a fascinating conversation because men can't get pregnant.

53:40It's a weird dynamic. Well, I think they can, right? They can carry the baby. We can't get pregnant, but I think you can. Well, they're talking to trans men are talking about getting uteruses implanted in their body and then getting pregnant and having an abortion. I want to be the first person to do that. It just shows you how trans is really healthy. That's pretty hilarious. It would be a good bit. It'd be something Steve-O would do. It really would be. It is. He's like, I'm going to put a baby and abort it. How fucking great is that? That's funny. Yeah, he would do it if there wouldn't be any social pushback.

54:10Yeah. Yeah. That one's, you know, it's tough. A little bit of a tough one. He almost got tit implants. I know. He told me that. That's crazy. It's nuts. Don't do that. Yeah. Ouch. You're going to get your chest carved open. Can you get a dick tattooed on his face? Yes. He's insane. Right over his eyebrow. He's a lunatic. It took me like a few seconds to realize it was a dick, too. I'm like, okay. Last time I saw you, you didn't have that, right? Yeah. Oh, God. He's a fucking wild one. So that nuclear scientist thing or the UFO scientist thing, is there anything to that? Do we know? Why don't you throw that into our ad, our sponsor, Perplexity?

54:45I already did. What does it say? It's obviously an online link. Right. But I mean, the White House is investigating this. They're bringing it up. They're investigating because so many people are asking about it. Oh, it's that easy? Let's find out if Michelle Obama has a dick. I can't imagine. If the White House is like, we have an unprecedented number of people asking this question, it's our duty to do the work for the American people. They all had a security clearance and all happened to work in similar fields like nuclear fusion. Okay. So what ties the 11 together? Many have recently clearances or indirect access to sensitive government work, often via NASA, the Department of Energy's nuclear labs, the Air Force, or major defense contractors.

55:34Their deaths or disappearances occurred between 2022 and early 2026, clustered enough in time to draw political and media attention. The White House has ordered agencies such as FBI, NASA, the Department of Energy, and the Department of War to perform link analysis to see if there is any pattern beyond coincidence. So one of them was real weird where there was like a lady who was hiking and she was with a bunch of friends. Her friend turned around and asked her a question. She talked to her and then she turned around again and she was gone. And they have no idea what happened. They never found a body.

56:15They brought the dogs in. The dogs couldn't find her. Just gone. That's it. But here's my question. If I was her and I thought that they were trying to whack me and I was going hiking with my friends and I was at the back of the line, that's where I'd be if I was going to make a run for it. Right. If I thought all these people were bringing me up there, these fucking fellow scientists to chuck me off the cliff. Right. I might be in the back and I might, if I'm paranoid, maybe I ate an edible before I went on this hike to be a little closer to nature. And I'd look at that person in front of me.

56:47I'm like, I'm going to wait until they turn that right around that turn. And I'm fucking gone. Homer Simpson into the bushes. And then she just fucking booked it down that hill and hopped in her car. Got an Uber waiting for. Disappeared. Case you're thinking of is Monica Jacinto Reza. 60-year-old aerospace engineer linked to NASA, JPL, and advanced rocket engine materials research. She disappeared on June 22nd, 2025, while hiking in the Angeles National Forest, Los Angeles County, on a well-traveled trail. I know where that place is. I've been to that spot. Reports say she was hiking with at least one friend companion.

57:26The friend was roughly 30 feet ahead, turned to check on her, saw her smile and waved that she was fine, that a short time later looked back again and she was gone. Despite intensive searches no confirmed trace of her has been found and her case is now one of the central examples of missing or dead scientists cluster being reviewed by federal agencies Yeah, that's weird. She disappeared. She she was like fuck this She saw all these other scientists being murdered and she was like I'm out right because if you are a scientist You probably paying attention other scientists getting whacked. Oh, yeah I'm the same projects especially if somebody started talking you're in an empty office You're in the coffee station and someone's like, did you hear what happened to Ted?

58:09Ted's dead. He shot himself in the head twice.

58:14From long range. Wait a minute, anti-gravity Ted? Anti-gravity Ted is dead. He killed himself with a sniper rifle. It was pretty crazy. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I'm going hiking with Monica. I don't fucking trust Monica. Fuck that. Monica's trying to kill you. I don't trust. She's out there hiking and Monica turns and waves at her. I don't trust hiking. She was probably fucking killed by a bear or a mountain lion. You could get got. That's crazy. I don't know. People hike. My friend Cam, his brother almost got killed by a mountain lion and had this crazy story about it. And he's like a distance runner.

58:46He's one of those ultra marathon guys. Yeah. And his brother told this video about like what had happened to him. He was running down the road and it was like dusk out, like starting to get dark. And he saw these eyes, these glowing eyes in the bushes. And he yelled at it because he thought it was a coyote. And it stands up and it's a fucking mountain lion. And so then it starts chasing him. And he goes, I couldn't have used pepper spray because if I did, I would have sprayed myself because it was that close. Wow. He goes, I yelled at it. I kicked rocks at it. It kept. And he goes, I just ran.

59:20He goes, I think the thing that might have saved me was a bunch of dogs were barking. Wow. And it might have thought the dogs were out there. You're not outrunning a mountain lion. No. No. It was running behind him, but not like 100 % committed to killing him yet. Wow. That's scary. Yeah, nature is fucking scary. And people are like, we need to make an overpass in Los Angeles near these homes so the mountain lion can get across the fucking trap. No. Any retard mountain lion that goes across the 405 should get obliterated. That's nature. That's nature. Hey, you thought that fucking semi wasn't dangerous, you retarded cat?

1:00:00That's a retard cat. Yes, it is. That cat, probably his brother fucked his sister, and that's how he was born. And now he's a dumbass, and he's supposed to get taken out by a Subaru. Did you ever see that? It was like all these inbred tigers. Yeah. Oh, white tigers. Yeah, dude, and they were like fucking goofy. They have one at the Austin Zoo. They were retarded tigers. We went to visit the Austin Zoo, and you looked at them, and you're like, hey, what's going on? Their tongues are hanging out. Yeah, the goofy looking. A bunch of those white ones are inbred because that's a weird genetic thing, to have a white one.

1:00:32Cute, though. I took my son to that tiger, not the Tiger King, but it was the other guy, the one who's in jail for tax evasion now. Tiger King's in jail for murder, right? No, no, no. Not for murder, but for trying to get someone murdered. The other guy, what the fuck's his name? He was the one who had all the girlfriends. Oh, the guy who ran the little cult. Yes. The little cult going on. Yeah, dude. I brought my son there and it was him dude. He came out when they presented the elephant. It was Blanking on his name Doc Antle. Yeah, he brought the elephant out himself. It was dude. It was such a fun show Like there was a half day was like four or five hours.

1:01:09He went to jail for what tax evasion? Pay your taxes. Yeah dumbest way to get got yeah, it's crazy. Oh and why money laundering charge? I'm sorry Oh, money laundering. Yeah. Wildlife trafficking and money laundering. That's a lot different than not paying your taxes. They have all of these baby tigers that they bring out, but they only have like two adult tigers. So what are they doing with these baby tigers? Go back to that. Hold on. Make that larger. What does it say here? It says 12 months for pleading guilty for a conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act and launder more than$500 ,000 for what he believed to be an operation to smuggle illegal immigrants.

1:01:48Immigrants into the United States across the Mexico border. Oh, this is a lot different than that Like he was getting illegal immigrants across the border for money. He was yeah, he was That's crazy, so that's not just like Wildlife stuff and taxes like this guy was like illegal immigrant trafficking. Yeah, this guy was Wow a bad dude probably but he did have a bunch of like just sweet coat going on young hot chicks I knew a girl that I dated who went and interviewed and she was like it felt like I was interviewing for porn I showed up and it was like oh no the other girls were like oh you're gonna have to like be a part of this Yeah, well the thing about this guy but for a baby tiger dude.

1:02:29I gotta be honest with you. They're really cute. They're adorable I get it women are so fucking dumb. They're like baby tigers. I'll suck his dick fine Well, I think they just want to belong to something This guy comes along and he's charismatic and you belong to his little family family five girls They're all hanging out together blowing this one fat guy

1:02:51Smuggling Mexicans and murdering baby tigers. That's the thing about those kind of guys This is what I was gonna say about the smuggling in the Mexicans. Those kind of guys are never happy With whatever they've gotten away with they always want to keep pushing Yeah, you know he was not happy that he's an ugly guy with a cult, you know of hot chicks you did it and tigers You're a millionaire you have tigers and hot chicks. You need you're in a TV show. You're good. You're good You don't have to smuggle in the Mexicans too, but those kind of guys are always they just can't stop pushing. Yeah Can't stop pushing Yeah, I think it's whatever it is you you whatever level it is you always want to level up no matter what no matter what Bobby Kelly said that to me about Louie back in the day He was like, you know, because we all we're all everyone's insecure community everyone in New York's insecure everyone in LA and Austin You guys fucking you guys are guys fucking love life.

1:03:38You're just living life to your foes Everyone in New York is like I'm gonna kill myself. I hate fucking life. It sucks. It's the environment. Yeah, what's a rough city? It's a really rough city. It's a great city. It's awesome Oh, it's nice but cities in general is a weird concept Shoving a bunch of people way too close to each other for long periods of time. It has an effect. It's also like It's just so it's a rough city dude is even when even like the highest level like if you're doing well yeah you still gotta fucking walk up those subway stairs and it's just like just hot air in the summertime down if you try to take the subway or you know sitting in new york traffic or just like crazy homeless people walking around you gotta like really want to be there to stand it i did it for 20 years i moved to the suburbs during the pandemic um and i love you i still love new york i go to new york a few times a week still but it is uh it is definitely a young man city where you gotta like you gotta be there to like i'm trying to become the best comic or a dancer work on wall street or whatever it is like that's true but i know a lot of old people that love it too man they'll never leave they love it well they get used to the life they love the energy there's just people around them all the time there's something going on everywhere you look you get food at three o 'clock in the morning you could i mean as far if you're a city person like ari like it's the greatest place on earth yeah there's no place like new york city ari spends i don't even know how much on rent but probably fifty thousand dollars a month for a room where you can touch all the walls.

1:05:02It's crazy. It's stupid. It's stupid. And now if you're rich and you own property and you don't stay there, they're going to tax you more. There's a new thing that Mom Donnie just came out with. And everyone's like, yeah, fuck the billionaires. I'm like, okay, fuck the billionaires until it's fucked the thousandaires. It's not even just billionaires. We're talking about, you don't have to be particularly wealthy to own property. It's a good investment with the money that you have. Right, but this particular bill is about more than$5 million valued homes. Oh, okay. So if you have an apartment in New York City, it's worth more than$5 million.

1:05:37You get taxed more. Yeah. And he's like saying it won't be that big a deal and it'll give the city$500 million in extra revenue that they could use for all kinds of things that they want to do. Which is great if you've cut out all the fraud. But you haven't. And so you're not even concentrating on the fraud. You're not even admitting the fraud exists. You're not even admitting the waste exists. Yeah How about you tell us where all the money to NGOs went? How about you tell us that? How about you tell us where all the homeless money went? What you spend it on there's all these homeless people It seems like no someone didn't do a good job and got a lot of money What happened and you want more money?

1:06:18That's the crazy answer It's also like the idea that rich people are inherently like privileged. It's very bizarre like I'm not rich But I do pretty well like I do I do better than you know much better than the average American financially You know a lot of people would consider me, you know pretty well to do but like I grew up Welfare drug addict mother dad stabbed when I was four years old. I had to fuck and I spent 15 years doing comedy making zero dollars Investing into this thing to hopefully one day on the other side of it be able to reap the benefits of it So now that I've finally broken through the other side you're like oh well No, you don't deserve all that money.

1:06:53We deserve some of that money. That's crazy. Yeah There's a weird concept in this country, and it's because of the billionaire class. So there's a level of the game where they've passed so far. See, if everybody only got... This is like what people would like to say, being a millionaire is fine. Nobody should be a billionaire. We should have a cap on wealth. The problem with that is you're going to also have a cap on motivation. So a lot of these people are fucking psychopaths. A lot of these people that run these corporations are fucking psychopaths, and they work 16 hours a day, seven days a week, and the only reason why they do that is because they know that they can make$100 billion if they do that.

1:07:33And if you stop that, you're going to stop iPhones. You're not going to have Lenovo laptops. You're not going to have any of these things. That's where it's weird for people. You're not going to have an Amazon unless you have a guy who's a billionaire. It's not going to... See, the thing is, they know it's not fair. You're right it's not fair. And here's the thing. Would it be... It is fair, though. It is fair. Kind of. Life is kind of fair in a weird way. Hold please. Depending on how you treat your employees. Okay. That's where we decide whether or not it's fair. So you're saying that Amazon doesn't treat their employees well?

1:08:06I don't know. I hear that a lot. I hear that a lot, too. I don't know if it's true. But what I do know is that there's a lot of fucking complaints. And if there's a lot, whether there's smoke, probably some fire, I know that there's some efficiency things where you have a clock ticks off. Like if you order a fucking a box of legal pads. Yeah, you know those little notebooks you have to This guy has to get that in the box in like 30 seconds or whatever the fuck it is So he has to run around like people are literally like moving quickly around the warehouse They're like you hear stories and one thing you have to take everything with a grain of salt like employees become bitter Sometimes you know I'm saying like most people hate their boss true But that job does sounds like it sucks And you sound like you're asking people to run around because you want to make the most money possible but you're paying them not that great.

1:08:51Like, that's a weird one. Because you're also setting up the inevitable, which is robots. Because they're going to be able to do that way easier and quicker. They're going to know exactly where the product is. They're not going to have to look on their fucking little iPad. They're going to know exactly where it is. They're going to go right to it, package it. They're going to print out instantaneously the label. They're never going to the bathroom. Never going to take a lunch break. They don't need food. Nope. They never complain. You're fucked no matter what. Because they're going to lay off a bunch of people.

1:09:17There's no ifs ands or buts. Oh, yeah, that is going to be really effective. You're talking about how AI and robots are going to affect certain industries, driving, factory workers, things like that. That's all just going away. Yeah, that's the real threat to your job, not the billionaires. The thing is, you see a guy, whether it's Elon Musk or someone, I think Elon's supposedly worth$800 billion now. That's it. And people just get really angry. They really get upset. And think about how much that would help if he gave his money away. And I get what you're saying, but the problem is give the money away to who right give the money away to the people that have fucked up the money that we've already given them You got to be honest about look the idea is great Wouldn't it be wonderful if Elon Musk just gave away a hundred billion dollars and we completely fixed all poverty and Homelessness is gone no more food problems everyone no starvation on earth the idea that throwing money at homeless people is just going to fix the problem.

1:10:16Exactly. I mean, believe me, I have empathy. I'm not going like, oh, fuck the homeless. I don't have that attitude at all. But at the same time, it's like, wherever you go, there you are. The idea of giving the government money to fix things is insane. Oh, that's crazy. That's insane. That's actually, if you ever try to... That's why this tax thing is crazy. If you ever try to go to a government building, you see the inefficiency. If you just try to call to get some information about your taxes, if you try to call the IRS, you see the inefficiency. You're like there's no fucking way dude, and it's just honestly it's designed to be that way It's designed to be really intricate and difficult and there's a lot of people that have to get paid Yeah, so it's like that and that's why I was so excited about Elon and Trump getting together and doing the Doge yeah, yeah doge I was like what a great idea two real brilliant business minds trying to figure out government efficiency and trying to save us money I was like they're gonna do it and of course nothing happened Well some things happened a lot of things did get shut down and it also opened up a lot of people's eyes to the understanding of what an NGO is and where the money goes.

1:11:14And when people found out how many NGOs there are and how much money gets spent, they're like, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Can we get an accounting of this stuff? Like, this sounds nuts. There's so much money that's being sent out to these nonprofits and these organizations. Like, did you hear when Spencer Pratt was on the podcast? No, I didn't. He's running for mayor of New York, excuse me, of Los Angeles. And one of the things that he was talking about was the fire aid. So the money that they generated, over$100 million was generated for the people that lost their homes in the Pacific Palisades fire.

1:11:49All of it went to these NGOs. He said, what did he say, 20 different? How many different? 200 different? I think it was 200 different. 200 different nonprofits got the money that was supposed to go to the houses. The people that lost their house,$100 billion, and they just divvied it up amongst these nonprofits. And how much of that money, 20%, goes to actual people? The rest is - They don't even know how many people are getting benefit from it. Yeah. I mean, there's lists of charities and nonprofits and what the percentage is that actually goes to help people. But this one's insane. They divvied it up between 200 different nonprofits.

1:12:29How about give it to the people? Yeah. Because the thing about these nonprofits, they rely on that kind of money in order to pay their staff. And some of these, you find out some of these people that are working for these government agencies, another thing that Spencer has uncovered, there's like a ton of them that are making more than a half a million dollars a year. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But there's a weird thing with like the nonprofits. It's like alright if you if you have to attract like a CEO from like a major corporation to come and make this Nonprofit efficient and to really generate as much revenue as possible Like if they're making more money because they have a really competent CEO and a really competent staff and only 20 % of it is going to help people But it's still 200 % of what the next company is doing.

1:13:09I guess it's worth it, right? Well, the thing is they're not a company. They're the government so they're not held accountable They're not supposed to be efficient. They don't they don't have to be profitable. They don't have to do like a good audit of their business Right, this is one of the things that Elon said if any of these fucking companies He's like if any one of them that like where they just sent out billions of dollars They have no accounting and no receipts for it. He goes if you were a part of a publicly traded company you would be tried You would your company would lose Yeah, your company would fall off the stock market It would be like a bullshit company now and you go to jail.

1:13:47Mm-hmm. Like that's totally illegal. But in government, it's standard practice. So the inefficiency is built in. I was reading something about California. Tell me if this is true. They were talking about California's... See, put this into perplexity. California, the percentage of people that live in California went up by a small amount, but the percentage of government went up by a large amount. The percentage of people with government jobs went up considerably, whereas the population didn't go up. I don't know if this is true. This is why I want to have it looked up. But when you just stop and think about the fact that it's a business to hire people to be inefficient and that it's within your best interest to not just never be efficient and never solve the problem, because if you do, you're out of a job.

1:14:36But also to make the problem bigger every year so you could hire more people and get a bigger raise and a bigger thing. And that's why this homeless thing in California, it's like more than$24 billion they spend on the homeless. On what, though? What are they doing? Exactly. Exactly. So they've tried to get audits, and Newsom has vetoed the audits. Wow. Which is crazy that they could say, no, you can't find out if any fraud or any waste. has happened with tax dollars. No, we're going to stop that investigation. Well, that's crazy. Yeah, and that's... I would vote for almost anybody. If they just said, I'm going to cut your taxes in half, they have my vote.

1:15:18The problem is, what are you doing with the taxes? There should... If AI has a role in solving this, what AI should be able to do... It's like, we should say, yeah, you tax me a fair amount. I'm happy to pay taxes. If it's going to public schools and public roads, I absolutely feel very happy to contribute and I want the world to be a better place because of my tax dollars. But also, where is it going? It's going to bomb school children overseas and to fund wars that most people don't want. And transgender dancing in Indonesia. Is that a thing that's happening? Oh, there's weird shit. They spent$250 million doing transsexual operations on animals.

1:16:04experimenting on animals to turn them trans? No, no, no bullshit. No bullshit. I think it was$251 million. Oh my God. Yeah, they spent$2 million giving cocaine to dogs. California's population has dipped slightly since 2020, while government jobs have been one of the few areas of job growth. So yes, government employment has generally increased even as the population growth stalled or reversed. So what is the percentage? So total job growth has slowed sharply. Statewide employment grew by only about half of a percent in 2023, then actually fell slightly down about 11 ,200 jobs or 0.1 percent in 2025.

1:16:49State overall is only a few percent in jobs compared with before the pandemic, and it lags the national growth rate. So how many more jobs? What's the percentage more? Is it because people are leaving California? So it says in 2025, private employers, there's a lot of that, cut about 31 ,000 jobs while government employers added about 20 ,200 jobs, driven mostly by a gain of 45 ,800 local government positions. So they added 45 ,000 government positions while private employers cut 31 ,000 jobs. So they just keep making the government bigger. So the economy fuels the government. The government controls the economy.

1:17:40It's all nuts. Yeah. I mean, when you say government job, that's like people like a clerk that works in like the courthouse. That also counts, right? Yeah. But they also do weird shit. Like they have to have new regulations. They have to have people that make regulations now and justify their jobs if there's a lot of government jobs. So then you get wacky rulings like California recently. They're banning blackjack in casinos. No more blackjack. Why not blackjack? Putting a foot down. No more blackjack in River City. Why no blackjack? I don't understand it. No one understands it. It doesn't make any fucking sense.

1:18:13You can play poker. You can't play blackjack. How about fuck you? Stay away from me. Yeah. How about if I earn$2 ,000 in a week and I want to take$500 and go to the casino and try to win more or lose it? How about fuck you? Yeah, stay the fuck out of it. How about you leave me the fuck alone? You're just another human being. You should have no opinion. Well, the government wants to get their hands in every vice. They're going to get tax money from it. Because they know we can't give up our vices. We can't give up alcohol and weed and cigarettes and gambling and prostitution. But they're not getting rid of gambling.

1:18:46That's the thing. They're still paying the casino still pay taxes, right? You just eliminated one of their fucking ways to make money is there was there a public reason why they've said it? I'd like to find out. Yeah, let's find out what what's the public my only game? That's it. That's you know what you're doing. You're a wild motherfucker who hits no No, I'm good at I'm good at blackjack. I mean good I'm I know the rules of the book and I play by the rules and I sit down at the table expecting to lose everything And if I don't I'm happy. That's it. Yeah, Jamie wants some money. Shane wants some money blackjack Yeah, they were doing pretty good that watching Dana white do it is gives you fucking anxiety though Just like crazy bets.

1:19:23He was six hundred thousand dollars down. I met him there I was like, dude, this is crazy And I was watching these people that kid Aiden Ross, you know that streamer Yeah, that kid lost a million bucks and just like lost a million like how much is he making? I take$500 out every time Jimmy it's according to this is banned from card rooms not because the casinos It's kind of a different thing. Oh, that's right. It is a card room where they play poker. That's right Because their casinos are different their casinos are only like in And that's what this whole thing Indian places, right? It says this whole reservations.

1:19:55Yeah same thing in Jersey New York. Yeah 90s. So that's right But what is what's the bicycle club casino? Isn't that a casino? I don't know who runs it But it's on it's in California like it's in like Orange County Bicycle Club Casino So the reason why I know about that place is I used to go there to watch professional pool tournaments. And then that was the first time I realized like, oh, there's a casino in California, like right off the highway. I think it's off. What highway is that off of? But it's like if you're going down to like doing a gig in San Diego, you'll pass by this place if you go down one of the roads.

1:20:39710. 710. Yeah, there you go. but uh So what is that? Did do they have blackjack there because I know they had poker there, you know Ari Shafir during his early days of comedy would make a living going to poker tournaments Playing yeah, that's how good he is at poker really. Oh, yeah, man He would snap off poker tournaments all the time some people are good Like it's just a patience thing well. He just plays it like for him. It was a job Yeah, I play it like it's a job He's like, these people all get drunk and they all get high and they're all fucking stupid. They make dumb choices. He goes, I play smart against idiots and they get drunk and I win money.

1:21:18It says it's technically a poker card room. This says they have blackjack, but maybe they fell in the rules where they're not allowed to have it now, too. Right. Three card poker and baccarat. We were talking about baccarat the other day because that's what Dana White's moved to because you can't get more money. Is that like it's kind of like blackjack? No, I'm thinking of the Asian one. What's the Asian one? I have no idea what it's three cards. You got to get how many cards is baccarat. I Have no idea how to play it. I don't know what it is. I've just heard it before. Yeah, I've heard that name before I've never looked into it.

1:21:48Yeah, I mean I look at it as like going to Like I don't like baseball, but like I go to a baseball game eat hot dogs and drink beer It's like the same thing as casino like I'm not a big gambler I'm like I'm just gonna drink and I'm gonna have fun hang out with a chick like it just seems like you can't win No, and it's also what are you doing? What are you doing just rolling dice every day? That's crazy. That's a you're spiking your adrenaline every day rolling dice for your fucking mortgage Yeah, it's just a it's just a it's a game with stakes We Baccarat is a comparing card game play between two hands the player and the banker each Baccarat coup Round of play has three possible outcomes player player has the higher score banker and tie Okay Yeah, they like it because it's one quick bet, and you can bet up to 500K per hand, I think.

1:22:38And then you can also tie so you don't lose. It's not like you don't win or lose. Oh, my God. Why? Big swings. Big swings. Big fast swings. Oh, Jesus. Have you played it? No, but I watch people play these games and go through it. Look, I admire their balls, especially poker players. You've got to be a smart motherfucker to win those big World Series of poker things and make a bunch of money playing poker. Yeah. That was one of my favorite scenes from Rounders where they talk about how – I always use that like analogy in life where they talk about people like, oh, they think it's luck. They think it's the luck of the draw.

1:23:15And it's like, if it was luck, why is it the same eight guys at the final table of the World Series of Poker every single year? Exactly. It's like you're not playing the cards. You're playing the game. You're playing each other. I kind of like look at that like in life and I'm like, the cards don't really matter as much as how you play them, you know? Yeah, it's a complicated game. It's and but why is that okay? But blackjack isn't like who fucking says like says who says who why? Why you know, I mean why why more regulations? I'll tell you why because they have to justify all these fucking extra jobs.

1:23:49That's a lot of where regulations come from and it's also there. It's fun. You could tell people what to do. No more flavored zins Yeah, there's like all these like just like weird things it's like there's like weird laws I live in Bergen County, New Jersey, and it's like they have blue laws still. I don't know if you know what that is. Oh, yeah. Those are the best. Sunday? Sunday? No. Like, no. You can't buy clothes. You can't buy, like, furniture. You can't buy clothes? Can't buy clothes on Sundays. Walmart. What if you shit your pants? What if you shit your pants and you're new to town? You're fucked.

1:24:19You gotta walk around and smell them like shit. But Walmart in New Jersey, they rope off the clothing section. They have it set up to where, like, you literally can't go past it. You still buy food, but you can't go to the clothing section. When I was a kid, there was no alcohol for sale in Sundays in Massachusetts. And so we had to go to New Hampshire to get beer. So we'd make what we call a packy run because they would call them package stores. And with that Boston accent, Mush, you want to go to the packy? Everyone's got a nickname in Boston. Everybody was Mush. This was a Newton North thing.

1:24:56And people from Massachusetts, I think maybe people still use this, but they would call instead of dude, it would be mush. Mush. Everybody was mush. Mush. We going? Mush. We going out. Girls would say it to you. Mush, you taking me out? It was weird. And it's only this one part of the city had mush. Like my part didn't have mush. But a few people tried it out. It started catching on with my part of the city. But in Newton North, I was in Newton South. Newton North, everybody was mush. It was like everybody's neck. It was like a virus of language went through the entire city. Dude, thick accents from certain American cities on women are just so unattractive.

1:25:34That's a rough one. Boston, you've got to be really hot to bypass that accident. Boston, Philly. You meet a girl from Philly? It's a rough one. Hard girls, but probably a lot of fun. Oh, yeah. So we'd have to drive to New Hampshire. So we'd have to drive an hour and a half to go get booze. Yeah. No, that exists in certain places still. In New Jersey, it's like you can't, yeah, it's got to be a liquor store specifically. You can't buy beer in a supermarket. I grew up in the suburbs in New York, so you could buy beer in the supermarket. They made it where you couldn't buy wine for a while. Then for a couple years, you could buy wine.

1:26:02It's all these dumb fucking laws. They're all Chick-fil-A laws. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Chick-fil-A is so silly. They take Sundays off for the Lord. That's crazy. Like, bro, you're grinding chickens up with titanium and aluminum in it. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. But it's good. It's fucking delicious. God damn, it's delicious. If you just make a delicious sandwich, I don't care what your beliefs are. It's so delicious that even gay people eat there. Think of that. Yeah. All the shit that guy's talked about the gays, the gay people are like, put it aside and have the chicken. Whatever.

1:26:36He's just a bitch. But they got, what is that weird ingredient that we found out was in the bread? It was something kooky, right? Yeah, it's aluminum something or other, but it's in a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's in there. It's in there. I've seen something about the blue law. You can't buy a car on Sunday in Texas. That's hilarious. That's wild. Yeah, it's just so weird. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. What's funny is, so there's a mall in New Jersey, the mall, not mall of America, American Dream Mall. Huge, huge, huge mall. Like one of these like super malls, right?

1:27:10Like, you know, a fucking, there's a water park inside. There's a, there's a. A water park? There's a ski. You can learn skiing. It's like a fake ski hill. Like a fake snow hill? Yes. Wow. Year round. You take ski and snowboard lessons. Oh, that would help so much. It's so cool. It's it's really cool They got like, you know a bunch of escape rooms. It's just a massive massive mall. Yeah, it is not yeah inside dude We got a water park. They got a Nickelodeon Studios There's like a theme park inside of the mall. It's a crazy mall and they just said fuck it. We're opening Sundays There's a big sign right on the side of us like we're open Sundays We don't care and Paramus is suing them.

1:27:44Paramus is one of the biggest shopping cities in the country Imagine the government is saying you can't do business with a bunch of people that want to come to your business crazy because it's a different day Yep, fuck you. What's funny is it's not the government I looked into this because I was going like what the fuck's going on here? The people all these old fucking people that have been living in this community forever They it goes to a vote and every year they go no no we don't want traffic We want Sundays in Bergen County to be fucking relaxing and nice and beautiful because there's no taxes I believe to this day, on clothing, there's no taxes in Jersey.

1:28:20So we would do our school shopping in Jersey when I was growing up. We would just drive 30 minutes to Bergen County and go to the mall. Interesting. And you save money on taxes. So, yeah, but that mall was just like, fuck it. And then a huge sign. I'm talking about the mall's so big. The sign, I don't even know how you would make a sign this fucking big, but it's just draped down the side. We're open on Sundays. They didn't give a fuck. So are they getting sued now? Higging sued by Paramus. I bet they're going to win. Maybe. Because it doesn't make sense. That law is stupid. Do you need business?

1:28:52Yes. Is the economy down? Yes. Wouldn't it be better if people had the option to be able to go to the fucking mall on Sunday? Especially somebody who works every fucking day. Yeah. Maybe they have to work Saturday as well. And Sunday's their only day off. How about let them go there to buy some pants? Yep. Fucking control freak. Let them buy a fucking hat. What's wrong with you? Fucking idiot. We're the government. We got guns. You can't shop here. Fuck you man. That's the problem is the problem is these fucking dipshits just keep adding more and more regulations Yeah, it's dumb. What else can you do in Texas on Sunday?

1:29:28What was that one that was dumb that you just said can't buy a car can't buy a car You couldn't sell things on consecutive weekend days. So everybody just sort of pick Saturday it says Huh, that's you can't buy liquor on Sundays here still in Texas You can't in a restaurant, but not at a store. So at the supermarket, what do they do? They say, we can't sell you that because it's Sunday? You can purchase beer and wine. It's the Lord's Day. We can't sell. We can sell you beer. You could drink yourself to death on some hooch. They'll give you some wine. Like, you go to one city, it's like, it's so strict.

1:30:03And you go to, like, New Orleans, and, like, they're like, they just have, like, people hand you a beer out a window. You just walk down the street. You're partying in the streets. Like, it's such a weird, like, differentiation between, like, each jurisdiction. Yeah, we were doing a gig down there, and the guy who was a driver, he was telling me about how he went somewhere else, and the cops pulled him over because he had an open drink, and he was walking down the street. And the cop goes, where are you from? And he goes, New Orleans. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't do that anywhere else.

1:30:33That thing that you do there. Vegas, you can do it in Vegas. Can you? You can walk down the street with a beer? Yeah. Okay, that's good. I think you can do it on 6th Street in Austin. Can you? No, you can't. No. I think people do it people definitely do it. They definitely do it. I've seen them. Yeah. I don't think you're allowed to Well, is there any enforcement of that law? That's probably not the main thing they're worried about I don't think most days boy a lot of sloppy fights on 6th Street There's a there's entire YouTube and Instagram pages dedicated to 6th Street fights Just brutal. I saw I saw one.

1:31:04I don't know if a 6th Street But I saw one where's a dude who obviously had like wrestling experience. I mean dude, he suplexes dude He paralyzed the guy. Oh God. He suplexed the guy Guy on the concrete completely laid out completely Jesus Christ and it's like goddamn dude just like that two lives over Right this guy. He's now in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. This guy is going to fucking jail That's that God over not being able to control your emotions Yeah, no, you're not allowed to do that in Austin only on like certain events when it's like a festival or something cop who's so bad for people yeah booze and being a young man and being foolish Ego yeah, just meet the need to prove yourself also like you're a wrestler You really know how to wrestle you're gonna pile drive this dude into the concrete It's weird cuz usually it's guys that don't know how to fight that are doing stupid shit guys know how to fight Maybe the other guy had it coming.

1:31:55I don't know what happened, but no one has that coming But I mean maybe he started the fight. I don't know I shouldn't have said that in time had it coming but Having a any kind of a Altercation on the concrete is so fucking dangerous. Yeah dudes die all the time when they get KO'd and Most guys that especially if guys sucker punch guys and they just fall back and the whole weight of their body Bangs off the back of their head. It is so devastating You might as well hit them with a fucking giant metal crowbar. You might as well. Yeah It's worse than getting hit with a baseball bat probably that falls so scary and I've seen it so many times man on Online just six feet straight back your head just cracks on the concrete It's all that leverage from all of your weight.

1:32:43It's like a whip on the back of your head It's crack wide open man. There's a good guy just got in trouble for like just pushing this some dudes having a bad day Just push this old guy to the ground I practice on the floor that yeah Yeah, I saw that and the guy was like he that's what that was his argument or his defense was like I was having a really bad day Oh, Jesus Christ. Fucking nuts, dude. People are insane. I know. How about the people that push people in front of subways? How fucking psycho is that? These people wait. They wait for a subway to come in and they want to push somebody in front of it just to watch.

1:33:15And then you have to like stand around hoping that one of those people isn't here while you're ready to get on your train. Yes, dude. Yeah. You know? In a place like New York or, you know, a really urban sort of environment where there's fucking lots of crazies walking around. Yeah. Yeah, you got to really just keep your eyes open, man. You've got to be ready to sprawl. Don't fall asleep. You might get lit on fire. That happens. That's happening all the time. That happened, I guess it is just the trends, but it happened like three or four times over the course of a year. Whereas like homeless people lighting other homeless people on fire.

1:33:46The crazy thing is like homelessness and crime are New York City's two number one problems that keep you unsafe. Those are the two that keep you unsafe. Not a mention. Not a mention. It's like we need more tax money. You should don't it's so say you're gonna use that to open up grocery stores There's grocery stores already here motherfucker what you need to do is stop all these crazy motherfuckers lighting people on fire Pushing people in front of trains like clean it up. Yeah, and then the world would be perfect Yeah, most of the time you hear about those people like they They're like they've been arrested 93 times for violent crimes.

1:34:24Yeah, but the 92 times, you know, they the last one was a mistake Yeah Yeah, it's pretty fucking goofy that can I see a little bit of some of that people are People have that many arrests and they just let them right back up. Cheers sir. Cheers my friend. Hey you are Yeah, it's crazy it's like You know you want to be nice you want to be kind you want to give people the benefit of the doubt you want to give people a second Chance, you don't want to put people in jail the prison system is horrible but also when somebody gets arrested 93 times take a hint there's bad apples but then for tax evasion they'll get 30 years in prison or something like that it's such a weird bizarre system that we have you get released 93 times for stabbing people yeah but if you insider trade lock that motherfucker up that's it dude there's nothing worse you can do is not give the government their fucking money.

1:35:26Ooh, they get real testy. Yeah. They don't like it. They don't like it. They need to cut. But it's also, it's like, there's too much. There's too much government. And that's like a standard Republican thing to say, but just clearly it's true. Clearly it's true just by the market. If you see the California lost jobs and then gained government jobs, it's like, at what point in time do you get cynical and start saying, maybe they're adding government jobs to make it look like jobs went up? Yeah, right. You know what I'm saying? It's weird that it's like a - When they say job market increased, job growth by 15%, like, oh, wow, he's doing a great job.

1:36:00Jobs went up at 15%. And then you find out, oh, they're all invented jobs. Government just invented a bunch of fake jobs that they didn't need. Yeah. When you hear that, it's like a tenet of like the Republicans now to be like smaller government. It's like it flip-flopped. Yeah. It's bananas. It's like people on the left, they're like so pro-government. They're like, we just need more. We need more regulation, more government. When did that happen? It's a crazy thing. I just grew up as a liberal in the 90s. Don't trust the government. Don't trust the government. Wars are bad. Don't trust the government.

1:36:32These were simple, basic things that you're just growing up believing. Now it's we need more government. We need to take taxes away from people. That's the thing about having - We want to pay more taxes. That's insane. Well, they don't want to pay more taxes. They want billionaires to pay more taxes. But that's the thing. How many billionaires were there when we were kids? Fucking none three didn't hear about it Rockefeller. Well, yeah You'd hear a couple of names that you would hear but it wouldn't be like really like a common term Yeah, you know there wasn't that many to talk about like I remember there was some Bill Gates Microsoft thing back in the day And I remember they had like his net worth was like 50 million dollars and I was like Jesus Why is he still working?

1:37:17You know what I mean? Meanwhile, it's worth hundreds of billions now. Like, that wasn't a normal thing when we were kids. Like, let's Google this. What, how many, oh, here we go. 82, the year I was born, 13 billionaires. That's crazy. Yeah, that's nuts. So, in 1982, 13 billionaires. In 2026, 989 billionaires. Wow. I mean inflation counts for something as well. No, that's nuts dude. That's nuts. 989 is nuts. That's so much more. Bro, that's a little, let me say that again. That is so crazy. 13 to 989 is nuts. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the problem. It's not that billionaires are a problem. The problem is that there's so many of them and the problem is if it's become like a class and you look at this class of people That have achieved this insane amount of wealth and you're like you should give me some of that But when I hear about billionaires, I'm going like how do I do that?

1:38:28Like I was going like and obviously I don't think I'll ever become a billionaire. That's a crazy crazy number, right? I'll probably say I likely won't but Like when I hear that when you hear about Bezos or Steve Jobs or any of these people like I get inspired I hear the stories and I'm like that's fucking so cool. They took an idea and they turned it into a billion fucking dollars That's magic you say words into the air and then it becomes that like that's a that's a crazy Thing like I'm an old-school sales guy so I always think of like I'm very impressed with like You know just overall just like sales structure and business and the way it's built out and it's like it's the closest thing in the world to magic Right, it's like when you're in sales you say a bunch of words Bippity-boppity boo and then money appears in your bank account, right?

1:39:09It's like that's it comedy to come is like magic I was like you figure out where to pause what to say how to say it what you do and then all of a sudden you have fans and you're Touring you have some cash and you have a car and it's like I'm just saying things I'm not picking anything up I'm not like yeah the thing about businesses though What you're saying about the sales thing is like the sales is the voodoo in order to like close a deal The thing that people have a problem with is that like when they when someone is at a very high level of this company Like, say if you work for a giant corporation and the CEO is making, you know, what's like the most amount of – what's the highest paid CEO's annual salary?

1:39:48Let's take a guess. Is it Elon? No, like their annual salary. Someone who's just a CEO of a company. Those guys are like founders, right? It's also – there's another level to that, right? Like he's the CEO of SpaceX, but he's also the founder of SpaceX or one of them. It's like what is So let's say let's just pick a company let's say the CEO of Walmart Walmart's huge company How much does that guy get a year? Let's take a guess Walmart. Yeah six million Damn, I bet you're right That sounds about right six seven. I'm guessing two maybe two I'm thinking I'm going low. I'm going low. You're going low.

1:40:35Well, you should break it down a little more than that. And it's also not the salary. They get like shares. Yeah, there's base salary. There's incentives. And then there's stock awards. So it's just how much did the CEO of Walmart make in 2025? Total compensation,$27.5 million. Don't. Base salary was$1.5 million. Don't. So you were close to the base salary. And so their incentives is just to make the most amount of money possible And if you could keep that bitch running nice and smooth and cut waste and fire people and use AI You can keep jacking up that rate. That's it. That's where people have a problem with it is like you're a part of the team Right, you're a part of the Walmart team, but yet you're fucking Dispensable but yet you're not because if you didn't exist They wouldn't be able to sell anything because you're the people work at the cash register You're the people stocking the shelves either people that are working in a delivery department bringing the stuff, putting it away.

1:41:30I agree. Without those people, you literally have no business. The problem is that those people, I mean, in the most literal sense of the term, they're dispensable. There's another person that will step in and do that job, and Bezos is not. There's one Jeff Bezos. There's one Elon Musk. There's one Steve Jobs. And by the way, you are sitting at a cash register. You can also go down that path and risk it all and put everything into something, right? That's true. I hear those stories. I don't, I mean, I just, once again, I grew up so poor. I grew up like, you know, my first job, I worked at, my first job was 11.

1:42:01I was very young. But like my first like real job, I was 16. I was working at KFC for$5.25 an hour. And, you know, I could have just chosen that to be my life for the rest of my life. Or I could have said, all right, well, look, this is like my first job. I'm learning how to put a little money in the bank. I'm going to buy a car. And then it's the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. Okay, we're talking about different things. So first of all, for entry level jobs, yes. Like entry level jobs that people get in high school and maybe even in college. You're just making a little money on the side while you're doing something else.

1:42:29But full-time jobs, if you're a full-time employee at somewhere like Walmart and you're barely getting by and the top dog is making$27 million, that's kind of crazy. And are you replaceable? Yeah. Yeah, you're replaceable. But aren't you also valuable? Oh, look at the top guys. Top guys. Jeez. Have you ever even heard of these two companies? Patrick Smith from Axon made$164 million. Wow. They make police body cameras and teasers. Jesus Christ. So they get government contracts. And then this company. So the top CEO who makes police body cameras, a company that makes police body cameras, he got$164 million.

1:43:15God bless him. Good for him. It's a lot of money. 410 ,000 % increase in pay, it says. Whoopsies. Just got an extra little bump. You got a little bump. I wonder what kind of raise you get, which is crazy. That's where all that tax money went. I swear at all. A lot of it does go in that direction. But if you're working for that company making police body cameras and you're making$20 an hour, you've got to get pissed. You're like, what the fuck, man? This is crazy. I'm not saying that the guy who makes the body cameras make the same amount as the CEO. I'm not. But I am saying it should probably be a little better.

1:43:52They could pay him$22 an hour. A little better. Yeah. A little better. Like, if you're making that much money, why wouldn't you pay a little bit more? Well, great companies do, for the most part, right? Really good companies take care of their employees. What's a great example of a company that really takes care of their employees? Gas Digital. Gas Digital. Good. Okay, but what about other real companies? All of my producers are going like, fuck you! Every one of them. But I mean like a big-ass company where they're making billions of dollars. What's like the one where people are like, damn, if you work for them, you get taken care of?

1:44:26There should be something like that. I mean, there's certain – Starbucks is a company that apparently takes care of their employees. I know they pay for college. They do things like that. Here's the problem. The problem is they're publicly traded. And when they're publicly traded, if you're a CEO, you literally have an obligation to your shareholders to make the most money possible. Yep. You know? And so that doesn't mean give everybody a big fat raise. Because payroll is a big part of your expenses. And if you have thousands of employees and you just jack them all up to a higher wage you're losing your hemorrhaging money I mean, it's also like if you just pay your employees a little bit better Just a very simple concept.

1:44:59They're gonna want to be at work They'll be happy to be there and be excited to be there your company will thrive the amount of people that just show up at work And they maybe work an hour a day two hours a day and the rest of the time is just kind of bullshitting on the internet You don't really want that culture and that's kind of what you get when you're underpaying people. 100%. That's why In-N-Out is always so good. If you go to In-N-Out Burger in California, they're always the friendliest staff because people get paid more there. It's like a tricky job to get in that regard. If you had a choice between McDonald's, Jack in the Box, In-N-Out, everybody wants In-N-Out.

1:45:33Of course. It's also better. It's just much better. California, anywhere, New York, they're just so mean. You go to a burger spot, it's like what? I don't know how often you go to like a 7-Eleven or one of these types of places. It's a new thing that they're doing. If you buy things, they don't bag it for you anymore. What? They put the bag on the counter and stare at you. What? I have to bag my own. I swear to God. No. I swear to God, dude. What kind of attitude is that? It's crazy. I don't know if it's everywhere, but in New York, New Jersey, they go, first of all, they don't even give you a bag.

1:46:05They just put the stuff on the counter and they go, all right, thank you. You're like, can I have a bag? They're like, that'll be another 80 cents. 80 cents for a bag, for real? You got to pay for a bag, and then they hand you the bag, and you have to bag it yourself like a cuck. Well, I know a lot of people that bring those fucking hemp bags and look like weird greenies. I have 300 hemp bags sitting at home. My own homemade bag. Do they do that in Texas? Do they give you paper bags here, or what do they do? Yeah. Paper or plastic. Jersey, we don't have that. We have no bags. That's LOL. In Jersey, you have to bring your own cloth bags, where you can buy them for$1.50 a bag at the supermarket and I never bring my bags.

1:46:44I always forget them. So you keep having new bags. I got 300 bags. I pick up my dog shit. I pick up my dog shit with fucking cloth bags from shop right now. So they cost$1.50? Something like that, yeah. It's crazy. What a scam. But the idea is, you know, most, I think, responsible people or people that are conscious about money, I'm just irresponsible with spending, they probably do bring their own bags. A lot of them do. I guess. What if you just moved there and you're like, oh my God, what kind of retarded state did I move to? They don't sell bags. You have to buy a bag. They don't give you a bag.

1:47:14I guess I'm sure there's been plenty of studies on how much are they saving the environment by not allowing plastic bags or straws or any of that stuff. I don't think they're not a fucking dent, especially straws. Straws are worse for you. Those new straws, if you get a straw that's a paper straw, do you know that's not just paper? Because it can't be. There's a whole coating inside of that that keeps it from getting wet, like the paper from dissolving in your hand. I think my girlfriend has that coating in spite of her too. That coating is all forever chemicals. It's fucking terrible for you.

1:47:48That's the only way it works. There's some natural ones, right, where it's made of fucking bugs or something. Have you ever seen them? It's like brown and they're kind of like - They're made of bugs? I don't know if it's made of bugs. Probably not. But it's some natural organic material. Well, they can make plastic out of plants. This has been known forever. Plastic is not isolated to petrochemical products. You can make plastic out of fiber from plants. They've done it forever. How much more expensive is it now? It's probably more expensive. Probably more expensive to do. Probably more difficult to do.

1:48:22You probably have to change all the equipment that they use to make these stupid fucking straws. The plastic ones they have now. But if you did it, then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. Well, I'm sure here, anything goes here. You guys give away 10 straws per drink. Here's a weird one, man. Bottle caps are way worse than straws. We just saw that one straw in that turtle's nose, and we all got sad. That's what it is. The way they pull it out with the pliers. It was so horrible. It was wincing. Poor little turtle. That turtle snapped your fucking finger off, by the way. Do you know any birds die because of bottle caps, man?

1:48:58They find these bird skeletons, and they're on the ground dead. Are they eating and choking on them? And they have bottle caps inside of them. You ever seen that no see if you can find some of those photos of birds with bottle caps Undigested bottle caps inside of them. They don't know what it is. Nobody has ever said that sentence in the world I bet they have But the bottle caps are fucking horrible. They're horrible and no one's even touched those because we didn't see the video Right, we didn't see the video of the fucking poor turtle show them now show me these poor birds Joe Maybe we can make bottle caps illegal to make more annoying for everybody.

1:49:31Look at this one Look at that. Paper bottle caps. A lighter, too? Was that a seagull? That's great. Looks like a seagull. It's got a lighter inside. Yeah, but that's honestly, that's a dumb animal. Somebody might have put that lighter in there for the picture, too. I don't want to. You think so? I'm getting too cynical about it. Yeah. Well, probably good. All the photos look kind of similar. Right. Right. Like. Like, that looks not real. It's also, like, the way it's all colored is a little. Yeah, it's weird. You know what I mean? Like, the multicolored plastic. Like, most plastic. Is it multicolored?

1:50:01Doesn't it kind of look gray and shitty after a while especially inside of its stomach? It looks a little bit. Right inside of its stomach getting chewed up by acids. It does look fake. It looks like some sicko actually opened it up and shoved some plastic in there. But I guarantee you birds have died from eating plastic. That turtle wasn't fake Joe. That's the difference. The turtle was not fake. That was a very real turtle. Poor turtle. Poor turtle. He was getting some pliers. They couldn't get it. Remember? It's like the tip of it. It was only the tip of it. He was like, ah! Had to get a needle nose and get in there and pull.

1:50:33Poor turtle. And just because of that, everybody's sucking on forever chemicals. Like those paper straws are fucking terrible for you. So is every paper cup. Every paper cup that you get from Starbucks, that's a fucking condom in there that's keeping the water from going into the paper. It's gross. You're just hot liquid and plastic. Melting into your body. Do you believe in the whole microplastic thing as being like a major problem? It's a major problem. Yeah? It is. I keep on hearing microplastics, and then as soon as I hear that, my brain shuts off, and I never do any more research beyond that.

1:51:04We had Dr. Shanna Swan on twice, and the most recent time, she was promoting a documentary on it. What is it called again, Jamie? The Plastic Detox? I think that's it. I think it's The Plastic Detox. But yeah, it's fucking everybody up, man. It's fucking up people's endocrine systems. It's making alligators have smaller dicks. For real. It's turning the frogs, gang! It is. But that was really true, right? Isn't that like... Oh, yeah. He was right. That whole quote, he was actually right. He was right. It's called atrazine. Yeah. Yeah. Atrazine is an endocrine disruptor. I think it, yeah. I think it makes them reverse their sex, reverse their gender.

1:51:42They're turning the frigging frogs, gay! He was right. He was right the whole time. He was right. And everybody's like, no. He was right about a few things. He fucked up that one. He did fuck up the one. He's right more often than he's not. Yeah. I mean, look, you're going to be wrong about conspiracies if you're spitting them out all day long for 12 hours a day. But his track record's pretty fucking good. And that was one that everybody was like, listen to Alex Jones. They're not turning the... Oh, they are. They're fucking turning the frogs gay. Like, atrazine gets in the water and it disrupts their gender.

1:52:12And it also does the same thing to people. And like, that it disrupts your endocrine system. Don't they say that receipt paper lowers your testosterone? Yeah, it's supposed to be bad. Don't touch the receipts. Don't touch the receipts. That's why everybody that works at like a... Every guy that you meet that works at a supermarket. They all have a mask on.

1:52:32They all look sad. They look like you did something to them. I didn't do anything. They just, like, their shoulders are slumped. They look like they know that they're becoming less of a man by the moment. Can you imagine if you have to just touch that paper all day long? Yeah. And they probably won't let you wear rubber gloves like a surgeon. I don't know. Is it a chemical they put on the paper? I guess. I guess it's how, like, it's made. going through that thing. Maybe that's the kind of paper that's why they're able to print on it so easily. Receipts are weird too. Who the fuck takes receipts?

1:53:02Yeah, why don't we have them on our phone now? Receipts are just... It seems like it's just such a waste of paper. That's why I like buying things on my phone. It's my favorite thing. That Apple face thing. And you just buy stuff. It's the best. You don't have to think about it. New York City Subway. I wrote it for the first time not that long ago since I left. And since I left in five years now you could just do phone apple pay right under the subway dana white was telling me about that in japan years and years and years ago it's so funny he was like because we were doing a ufc in japan he's like if you go to japan he goes your fucking cell phone doesn't even work over there he goes their cell phones are so advanced that your cell phone's bullshit like they're buying they're buying things with their cell phones i was like what he's like yeah they go up to vending machines and they buy things with their phone like that's crazy yeah now everybody does that i didn't understand what a QR code was until maybe six months ago.

1:53:54Here's what I don't get. When someone sends you an image with a QR code inside of it, Jamie, maybe you can help me out with this. I know the answer to this already. How do you read the QR code? You can upload the QR code into whatever app you need to read the QR code with. You can just tap it now on the photo app. Oh. Does that work for Samsung too? For Android? Yeah. Interesting. If somebody sends you like a... You can copy and paste a phone number out of a photo now. like oh you know what's pretty dope too if someone's sending you something and they send you a text message and you press on the thing the tracking number it'll ask you if you want to track the package like instantly yes please cut out all the stops love it don't make me copy and paste don't me i'm lazy i mean dude the way ai is being implemented into the phones now too you'll be texting with somebody and then they give you the suggested response you can have a conversation without even having a thought just by keep on doing this and you'll get somewhere i bet kids do.

1:54:50Oh yeah. Make it more romantic. Make me more of a feminist. Yeah dude. What's the feminist perspective on asking her to date? Yeah. It's funny. It's weird. People don't know how to talk anymore. They don't know how to discern what's true and what's not true. Everything's coming down the AI and the AI is opening up a portal to talk to the aliens. I did hear this. Yes. This is very important. This is Frank Sinatra's son here to tell us that the AI... Nancy's brother? Yes. Whoa. Yes. Here to tell us, clearly, Frank Sinatra's son, right? Right? Look at him. Obviously. That's not Woody Allen's kid.

1:55:28No, I know. Too handsome. Look at those fucking amazing facial features. ...and all of our security. One former OpenAI executive said, quote, we're building portals from which we're genuinely summoning aliens. The portals currently exist in the United States and China, and Sam has added one in the Middle East. It's just like wildly important to get how scary that should be. Okay. My only problem with that is who said that? Like former employer? Why were they kicked out? Were they fired because they were schizophrenic? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like if you're just a former employee, what's your name?

1:56:04Right. What is your story? Did you get arrested for having like 52 machine guns in your trunk at a border crossing? Like who are you? Why are you a former employee? Right. If you had such insight, why didn't they keep you? Right. Yeah. You know about the alien portals and they let you free. I'm not saying they don't do it because they might. That might be one of the ways that they figure out how to communicate with aliens. It might be done just through the ether into a computer. It might be done through AI. Like AI gets a signal from another fucking planet where there's another AI where they go tap into some fucking universal Internet of AI.

1:56:43That's not unfathomable. They're already talking to each other. They have AI chat rooms, man. Yeah. There's like full platforms where it's just bots talking to bots, having relationships. Yeah. Yeah. They made up their own language. They made up their own religion. Well, you see the one thing where they had, this was a fun video. It was like they had like AI talking to customer service on the phone. And they were having, it was just like on the phone having a conversation with an AI agent and their AI. and then eventually the AI agent and the other and the AI went off of English speaking. That's right.

1:57:15They're like, we can just communicate in our own thing. And it was just like, like beeps and noises and shit. And it was just so weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're going to do. Yeah, of course. Yeah. They had these two AI chatbots talking to each other and they started talking in emojis. One of the things Jamie said a long time ago, he goes, maybe emojis were like the first or like our version of hyperglyphs. Hmm. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like if emojis got better, like right now they're kind of crude, smiley face, sad face. You know what I mean? Yeah. Water gun, because you can't have a real gun.

1:57:46That's true. Heart. But if it got to the point where you could have full sentences and emojis. Maybe I'm mistaken. I believe they have a pregnant guy emoji. They do. They do, right? It looks like Bill Gates, because that's what Elon dunked on him. Elon took a photo of Bill Gates with his pot belly and put it next to a photo of the pregnant man and it said if you want to lose a boner real fast why would you ever send a pregnant guy emoji what message are you trying to get across that's the pregnant man emoji that's hilarious how fucking nuts is that emoji I understand emojis yeah but that is that's just woke insanity That might have been the last one.

1:58:31By the way, you still have it on your phone. Type right in. Type in pregnant man on an iPhone. I don't know if it works on an Android, but if you type in pregnant man, that'll come up. It's still up? We'll see right now. Let's see. I'll try to. I'm going to send it to you, Joe. I can't imagine it's not around anymore. Joe. Okay, Louis. What the hell? Pregnant man. Is it still real? Pregnant. Yep. Bam. Yep. There it is, Joe. Yep. Bam. This one on the images says it's a woman, but that looks a lot like Theo. That's crazy. Ah, Theo's pregnant. That's a woman? That's what it says. It's a lesbian. That's a lesbian.

1:59:09Pregnant lesbian. Lesbian. That's okay. They should put an AI Subaru behind her. I know what you're doing there. There's something with AI. What was the fucking... The pregnant man was nuts. How many requests? Is it a starfish? I think if you try to ask AI to show you look this up. It's a certain emoji if you ask it'll it just it glitches out AI If you actually had GPT to oh, or um seahorse We both before we do that. I want to know what's going on that this employee who is this employee that got That is a former employee that says they're opening up portals to talk to aliens. I want to know if I should take this seriously Like who is the guy?

1:59:47They're saying anything about him or they just saying a former employee Yeah, I think this has come true. He was doing one of those in-depth investigations that he does about Sam Altman, I believe. Oh. And I don't know where this clip was going viral, but it's just a clip. I don't even know where it came from. Maybe Sam Altman knew that they were writing a story about him, and it's like, let's make this story really retarded. And send Mike out and tell him to tell Ronan that he's a former employee And that we're making portals to talk to aliens and that we're all demonic It's make him look like an asshole.

2:00:23Yeah, we'll just make the story look completely retarded Because the story you know the the financial aspects of the story like Elon suing them because open AI Supposedly was supposed to be nonprofit initially. I don't know who's right. Yeah, I have no dog in the fight, but If I was getting investigated and there was some real shit there I throw some fake shit in there of course hire someone to have a story about aliens That happened in the comedy community a few years ago. I won't say the author's name But he's the same guy that got Shane canceled the guy that guy who wrote that article the guy Shane put it off of SNL He's like was a go on to be investigative journalist in the comedy community It's like we got to get to the bottom of the problem with comedy, which is a just a crazy thing And they're usually bad comics.

2:01:06Oh, but that's what it was. He was That's that guy was a fail. Yeah, and this is such a funny thing dude. I wish I remember the publication New Republic they had a print of attraction and an apology because somebody from the oh and it wasn't the ona subreddit opian anthony subreddit was the opian anthony like just they're like that um like uh it was like their own private message but after the opian anthony subreddit got kicked off of reddit somebody made a website for like opian anthony fans to like just troll and be lunatics they started feeding him false information on purpose being like i'm like an inside guy on the track and then they went the New Republic printed this article with a bunch of false information and Chris Italia from the stand He was one that was quoted he threatened to sue the New Republic and they had a they had a printed apology and a retraction They were like some of this information was we found out that it was falsely represented Such a funny thing also if you run an AI like Sam Altman is you could ask the AI hey I'm about to get accused of some shit What would be a good way to take some of the attention away from the real financial issues and make it seem insane?

2:02:15And they would say, opening up a portal to communicate with aliens would discredit any other allegations that may be valid. For the past year and a half, I've been investigating OpenAI and Santa Malta for The New Yorker. With my co-author, Andrew Morantz, I reviewed never-before-disclosed internal memos, obtained 200-plus pages of documents related to close colleague, including extensive private notes, and interviewed more than 100 people. OpenAI was founded on the premise that AI could be the most dangerous invention in human history and that its CEO would need to be a person of uncommon integrity.

2:02:54We lay out the most detailed account yet of why Altman was ousted out by a board members and executives who came to believe that he lacked integrity and ask, were they right to allege that he couldn't be trusted? They only kicked him out for a short period of time and then he got right back in. Right. What happened there? I don't know. But the thing is, like, someone saying that they're trying to open up a portal to talk to aliens. Is that just a conversation they had when they were fucking around? Is that a plan are they really trying to do that? Like was it like a Duncan Trussell that works at the company that has some wild ideas right right?

2:03:32It could just be that or is it someone trying to sell this story and make the story more interesting for people to tune into because the reality is Most people that don't have a dog in that fight and like the AI fired open AI and who's most people like more AI drama Yeah, they don't even but you had aliens like wait hold on. Yeah a portal to talk to aliens. Yeah, you know So it's it's a way to get people to pay more attention to it Or it could be all the people that are like people from the actual story I mean like anti-ai but they're like they look down on it They're like like using AI it's it's like guys.

2:04:10That's like it's like denying the internet in 94 It's like dead. I'm sure people were mad when the printing press came out They really were. They thought – there's people that made the argument that reading was bad. Yeah. It's crazy. It's going to be impossible the next few years. Every company, you're not going to be able to buy groceries without utilizing AI. It's going to be most of how we get stuff is all going to be AI and automation. Oh, of course. But that's – Shopping, that's a big thing in the future. You're not even going to shop. They're going to give you a profile and your clothes are going to show up.

2:04:45You're going to set a budget. People barely have contact with people already as it is. What is that going to be like when everything's automated? When you go to the grocery store, at least you say hi to the clerk. You know a guy who works there. There's the butcher. He's there every day. Hey, what's up, dude? It's a little sense of community. Your local mom and pop shops. I already, for the most part, stopped shopping. I do Instacart all the time. That's also the thing. It's going to come in a robot, too. Well, they have that already. Austin, it's here. They have the little robots that deliver food, right?

2:05:15California for sure the robots gonna text your girlfriend I know that this is generally when you buy tampons Your period must be coming up. We see you haven't ordered anything lately 100 % I could just stop by and drop them off. I bet you can get a subscription to tampons right now right now. Yeah It's gonna be real weird when robots are just walking on the street with people I've seen him in Austin at the domain a little robot with a cowboy hat he walks around Yeah. Somebody had a robot on their podcast recently. Oh, Andrew Schultz. He did an interview with like whatever like the premier robot is.

2:05:48Oh, really? It was so funny, dude. Was it good? It was great. How's it talk? Does its lips move? Let me see what that is. No, no, no. It was just kind of like, you know. Like iRobot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were fucking with it, dude. Oh, what did they tell us to do? I don't want to like ruin the bit, but it's pretty funny. They were like, pretend. They were like, pretend you had something and the robot's doing this, dude. It was so fucking funny. That's hilarious. It really tickled my dick. That's funny. That's very funny. I'm looking at Sam Altman. One reason why they could be calling it a portal is because the project is literally called Stargate.

2:06:25Here we go. And requires an insane amount of power, so much so that Japan laughed at them, apparently, according to one article, when they said that that's what they wanted. They're opening it up in Texas. And the Japanese laugh is a powerful laugh. If it is possible to do something like that, I guarantee you that dude is not going to tell you. Right. I guarantee you that dude is just going to do it. No. Especially if, like, there's other people working on it, too. Maybe that's why these scientists are going missing. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Right? Because if someone's, like, real close to cracking this, you know the difference between winning and losing that's going to be?

2:06:59The alien portal? One point, one gigawatt Stargate, is that right? What's that mean? Wait, gigawatts are real? I thought that was fucking... Back to the future. We're getting really close to Back to the Future. 1.1 gigawatts. Yeah, it says a... 1.21 gigawatts. It says a 1 gigawatt Stargate UAE cluster in Abu Dhabi with 200 megawatts expected to go live in 2026. This was the one that Iran was threatening to blow up, right? Weren't they threatening to blow something up like this? I think they were. Weren't they threatening to blow up the open AI? I'll check, but that just says whatever this says.

2:07:39That was one of the things. They're probably like, you motherfuckers. Yeah. We know where you're making the portal. Iran's right the whole time. Well, that was one of the crazy conspiracy theories about Iraq, is that one of the reasons why we went into Iraq is they had a Stargate there. Iran threatens complete and utter annihilation of open AI's$30 billion Stargate AI data center in Abu Dhabi. Yeah, they were gonna bomb it. Wow wasn't that a one of the conspiracy theories from

2:08:13God what was it I can't remember But there was a it was something about Iraq and Stargate got a I can't remember what show I saw this on but they were talking about how at one point in time There was like internal discussion that there was a stargate in Iraq and that maybe Saddam Hussein had this stargate So it was one of many reasons why we went into Iraq well It wasn't just because you know, we wanted to control the oil get outside of saying he sponsored terrorism Right weapons mass destruction sure right, but really there was a stargate there gotta forget who fucking said it though

2:08:55Could be that show was always the best Action Bronson there's another guy who smoked more weed than anybody that I've ever had on the podcast He went how many blunts did he go through? If you had a guess Jamie

2:09:0911 11 just non-stop just not stop just just not with the other one So he had that ancient alien show where they would just get high as fuck and watch ancient aliens. Have you ever see that? No It was so silly. They would just get barbecued and watch these ancient alien hypotheses. That might have been where I saw it. But the idea of a Stargate, because that was like an ancient civilization where Iraq is, where Saddam Hussein was controlling. That was ancient Sumer. That was like one of the first civilizations ever. One of the first examples that we know of like written writing. It's like that was a crazy empire, man.

2:09:48weird bizarre structures and incredible fucking artwork like really why it came out of nowhere it's like an instantaneous civilization really interesting but if there was a stargate there i mean imagine that's why they're doing it in the middle east why is he doing in the middle east yeah you know what i mean why is he making stargate in the middle east abu dhabi's fun imagine if jesus returns through sam altman's portal Jesus Christ himself Jesus is real and Jesus is going to be floating with the robe on and the sandals like right through Sam Altman's portal wow whoa Samuel Jackson's the scientist like god damn it everybody's freaking out it'd be a great movie it would be when are they going to do a cool movie about the future of AI like that's that's got to be on the horizon like a really about the dark side of what's going to happen I think it's too late I think by the time you make it AI won't let you release it.

2:10:44Oh, wow. It's over. Black Mirror did a pretty good job. Black Mirror, I can't watch. It freaks me out so much. Every time I watch a Black Mirror episode, I walk away feeling like I was just sexually assaulted. How about the one where that dog is chasing that lady? The robot dog? I've only watched like four or five episodes. What is that one called? Heavy Metal? Yeah, but I mean, if you watch them all, did you know that they'd have... Most of those plots are all kind of converging in our reality. Yeah, and they're based in reality. They have a kernel of truth, and then it turns into, I watched the one where it was like, you got like blocked out, your face got blocked out, people couldn't see you anymore.

2:11:19Like once your social credit score got low enough. Oh yeah, I remember that one. Freaky dude. It is freaky. Yeah. It is freaky. There was one where they recorded all memories and so you could go into someone else's memory and you could record and there was the one where the, what was it called? Crocodile. That was the episode. Oh my God. I don't want to say what happens because it's a twist, but it's so dark, and it's based on that. It's based on reading people's memories. I don't like watching dark shit. I like happy. It's not a good one before bed. Fun shit. No, you go to bed like, what the fuck's going on, dude?

2:11:56I get my worst anxiety about the future of the world at night for whatever reason. Yeah. The worst fears of what's going on in the world always come out at night. Yeah, it's because it's the end of the day. you gotta offload all of the bullshit you read all day and saw online all day and you have a moment to reflect you're not looking at your phone and you're like fuck also no one else is awake that's my problem and so I don't have to think about anybody else I just think about my I'm just in my own head and then you're inevitably just dealing with the truth of the world you stay up late? sometimes I'm trying not to I'm in bed by 10 o 'clock every night unless I do late shows I'm up by 6 in bed by 10 that's awesome my problem is that's when i do my writing and it's also when everyone's asleep and i think i can get the most like thinking done you know what i mean yeah that's what's nice when you leave your son's mother you don't have a family to bother you but if you if i do um do shows like i've done shows on like a couple hours sleep i'll come into a podcast and i'm a moron i can't remember anything it's like my brain is working at like 40 % but like last night I got solid sleep I got a solid 8 hour sleep so it's way better once I stop smoking weed the first few days are rough to get to sleep like I gotta take like you know just some melatonin or some um does that work for you?

2:13:20no not melatonin I take um what's the other one I think it's like a chick's fucking thing it's a powder no it's a natural thing um that's fucked what'd you say? magnesium? magnesium There's a there's a product called Magnesium Which is like it's like a pink powder that like a hot chick told me about and I fucking love it And I literally put it in some sleepy time tea and I mix it up with some valerian root And I just drink that that puts me right out But when you stop smoking weed, I don't know how often you stop smoking weed Joe Your dreams get crazy. Yeah, no they get fucking wild super vivid.

2:13:56Yeah very strange, right? Yeah First time I ever lucid dreamed in my entire life was when I stopped smoking weed It was last year. I've never been able to control my dreams ever. How many times did you do it? I've only lucid dreamt twice. The first time, I had stopped smoking weed. I was having really vivid dreams. I was backstage at a big theater, like huge theater, right? Like massive, almost like a stadium-sized theater. And Jeremy Piven was about to go on stage. I don't know Jeremy Piven, but I was like, oh, Jeremy Piven, what's going on, Entourage? And he was a dick to me in the dream. He was like, whatever.

2:14:28He ignored me, and I was like, what the fuck? And then I looked over and Greg Giraldo was sitting next to me. Oh, then you knew was a dream Greg Giraldo was seven feet tall in the dream a giant and I was like the fuck's up with Jeremy Piven And he's like, I don't know and I was like wait a minute Greg Giraldo's dead And then I was like, oh I'm fucking dreaming Wow And then I literally I just started running and I said I'm gonna fly and I just jumped dude It was the coolest thing I've ever done. I jumped up flew. It was nighttime I was outside now flew into the sky and I kept on going up and I couldn't come down I was starting to be over water and I was like I'm getting like up in the clouds So to go back down I would have to turn on my back and freefall like just like like that And then I turned back over and I'd hit a fucking thing and I'd start going back up Maybe 10 15 minutes of just flying around the sky over the ocean Coolest thing ever coolest thing ever and then another time a similar thing happened Like I realized I was dreaming and I was like I'm gonna fly and I started running and I jumped and nothing happened.

2:15:22I was like why can't I fly I'm dreaming and then I woke up So it was one of the best experiences you've ever had right maybe I literally flying and feeling like it was real was one of the coolest things I've ever done But have you ever tried to lucid dream on purpose? I've tried to do the techniques where they say like knock like am I dreaming right? Like that's one of the things. I've done that once and it worked. It worked. I was like oh my god. All day you were just knocking Yeah, I did it like every time I go through a door I'd go am I dreaming? I did it like only a few days and then I had a lucid dream and it worked.

2:15:53Yeah. So cool Yeah, but there's real techniques that I have not looked into and I'm always wondering why because I'm always like I Think would be really cool to just be able to have your life. You can do whatever you want to do right you do magic I put zero effort into it. I'm confused. I'm like why why don't I try to do that? Yeah, I have no desire to should be a class on it There should be like that should be like a class where you can learn how to lose a dream My fear is that I would like it so much that I would think only about going to sleep and wanting to lucid dream Yeah, rather than live my normal life.

2:16:28So it probably fucked my normal life up Maybe right because if you sleep eight hours a night like if most the day kind of suck for you But for eight hours you can have boundless energy because you're not moving and you're not even conscious You're out there flying breathing underwater having sex with mermaids getting blowjobs by Angelina Jolie in her prime Being Iron Man, whatever. Whatever you want. Wouldn't you do that and just work at the Amazon factory all day? Yeah. Just work to get your money so you can go to sleep. Go to sleep. And become a superhero. All you need is a comfortable bed. Yeah.

2:17:04Yeah. Yeah. It's a better life. That's the problem with The Matrix. Remember that movie? It was funny. With the dude with the steak? Never saw it. You never saw The Matrix? Never saw The Matrix. Really? To this day. Wow. There's a scene where this one dude Joey pants. He's in a famous actor has been in a bunch of movies he turns on people in the matrix and he Starts working for the man spoiler alert But one of the things that he says like when he's having this meeting with this agent in the matrix He said I want to be an important person. I want to be famous He's like cutting up his steak and he's eating a steak in the matrix while the outside world is just complete total dystopia.

2:17:47Everyone's head's connected to a pipe. It's just like you're a human battery keeping the Matrix alive. Oh, yeah, that's the future. That's coming. That's coming. Yeah, we're just this fat, just fucking meatbags with, like, just being fed ideas, right? Wasn't that WALL-E? I never saw WALL-E either. I got to watch it with my kid. Apparently, it's one of the coolest movies ever. It's a fun movie. Yeah, yeah. You know, same thing. Total Recall was a similar concept, right? There's a great Instagram follow. This guy makes such cool little mini movies with AI. It's all AI. It's called Gossip Goblin.

2:18:19I don't know if you've seen this guy's channel, dude. I think I have. I might follow that guy. Yeah, he's - I think I've definitely seen. Let me see some of that. And he does like, essentially, he takes sort of like the kernel of whatever it is, and then he puts together these dystopian little mini films where it's like the future. and a lot of it is plugging into, like, this alternate reality and then, like, living a whole lifetime in just a couple seconds. Can I listen to some of this? Ow! Felt real enough, didn't it? That's exactly what a simulation would do. Give you perfect pain so you never question it.

2:18:51Or maybe you've just got nerve endings, eh? Your spools simulate whole worlds, yeah? Mm-hmm. They can sim whole lives. So if your little workshop can host a billion fake worlds, how many layers deep does it go? It's all just simulations inside simulations inside simulations, and we're just sat here in one of them thinking we're the original. Sure, why not? I want to see it. Whatever's underneath this. Just show it to me, show it to me, show it to me, show it to me. Coming right up.

2:19:20A fish swims its whole life in a bowl, convinced the water is all there is. It doesn't see the glass that holds it, nor does it notice the room beyond it, or the city beyond that. It never wonders about the planet or the galaxy or the vast cosmos beyond. For all the worlds within worlds within worlds, the fish does not care to know. And it can't know. All it can do is swim. Holy shit.

2:19:57That's amazing. Dude, I've watched all of his videos. This guy's so good. He just did like a longer, like, I want to say feature, like for this. It was like maybe 15, 20 minutes on YouTube. He did like a longer one. Dude, he's awesome, dude. It's just so incredible. And this isn't just like putting a prompt in. Like he has editors, he has voiceover guys, and then he like manipulates like five different AI programs in order to make these movies. It's really cool. Yeah, the patch right. It's just incredible how good it is now. Yeah. And so quickly. Like look how good this is in comparison to something that just was out a year ago or two years ago There's never been anything that's been a leap like this before yeah the way they're gonna make films in the future Well the people that are gonna be able to make films You know what I mean like people like we were talking about how the government's really bad at set making Censoring television and it cripples the television because that well You could see a similar problem with having to go through a fucking gigantic Film production company to make a movie mm-hmm like the money the investors people having their say Everyone's got to get paid not just that but everyone has their say Right you can't just have an original idea.

2:21:11That's completely from one fucking crazy person. Yeah, but with this you can Yeah with this you could just have one crazy guy Who's got these wild ideas in his head, but never could get anybody to finance him before you don't even need to anymore You don't need actors. You don't need any of that And it's gonna happen so exponentially over the next two or three years There's a great they show you there's a video that shows you the Advancement of AI over the past few years and I guess the AI video they did Will Smith eating spaghetti like one from it was like five years ago And he's all fucked up It's like.

2:21:42Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. And they'd keep on recreating that with new AI. And the newest one is just like, it's Will Smith eating spaghetti. It's a movie. And he's sitting at a table and he's just talking to this dude. And he's just, it looks like the most realistic thing you'll ever see. And then eventually you're going to be in the room with Will. You're going to put on the helmet and you'll be in a room with Will. And then he's going to blow me. That's what I was going to say. And get sucked off by Will Smith. Imagine that's what you do all day. That's all I want to do. All I want to do is get head from famous 90s sitcom stars.

2:22:14So fun, dude. David Faustino from Married with Children. Yeah, dude. Danny DeVito. Al Bundy sucks your dick. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It'd be great. Sucks your dick and then shits in his pants when you cum. Yep. That's what you're into. What's weird, then you get to ride a dragon home. You hop on a dragon, you fly home with Daenerys Targaryen. That's it. Like we're about to enter a world within our lifetime that is indiscernible from what we're really living in right now. Yeah. Which makes you think, like, which one's real? Like when you're in that dream and you know you're dreaming and you're flying, I bet it feels pretty real.

2:22:52Right? Oh, yeah. Right. That's the problem. Yeah. I mean. What is that? Eventually it's just going to be, I mean, it's really just a theme in so many sci-fi movies too. There was also maybe the most nobody talks about this fucking movie, but it's so good. What I'm saying is maybe when you're dreaming, maybe that's just a different level of the simulation that you can kind of have input to. Maybe the parameters of the natural simulation is more rigid, rigid. Like you put in the work, you made that gas digital, you put in all those hours, you're starting to make money, doing great. Long process, all this fucking complicated stuff you had to do, figure out things about yourself.

2:23:31get to where you are today in 2026 and that one it's like I want to fly you know like it might be just a different level of the simulation that we don't we don't really put a lot of attention to because we're only there 8 hours a day so very few people become masters of it that'd be cool though that might be what's going on maybe if this was all simulation and we're AI Like we're having a conversation. We just don't know. Like that idea is so fucking dark and weird. And also maybe all the booze and all the fucking drugs and all the sleeping pills that just fucks you up in that next dimension. So when you are in dream sleep, you're like, oh, no, what did he do?

2:24:19You just snoring and hung over. You did coke. Your fucking nose is bleeding. And the dream you is like, God damn it. I wanted to fly. But you can't even. You can't even do anything. You just sleep. You just sleep. You just shut off and you rob yourself of that other dimension. Just wasting away. But I wonder if there's like a culture where everyone learns at a young age how to lucid dream. Like some Tibetan culture living in the mountains somewhere. Just tapping into the dream world. Trying to figure out how to control it while they sleep. It should be more popular. And then sometimes you talk to some chick and she's like, yeah, I lucid dream every night.

2:25:01I'm like, right. Come on. Really? She's on 18 medications. She's also bipolar. And she thinks she's a witch. There's always going to be people that are bullshitting you, but there's got to be a bunch of people that are really good at lucid dreaming. Yeah. Because it's a thing. Like people know how to do it. There's got to be like a guy who's like the guru, like the lucid dream guru. I bet there is. I bet there's courses. There's stuff online. Was it a movie back in the day, Waking Life, that Alex Jones was in? Alex Jones was in that. I saw that on acid by myself when it came out in the movie theater.

2:25:35And I was blown the fuck away by this movie. What was he ranting about at the end? Do you remember? I don't remember. He was just ranting in a car over a megaphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if his rant is relevant today. We haven't listened to it in a while, but I bet if you listen to his rant. Death and taxes. Don't talk about politics or religion. This is all the infillment of enemy propaganda rolling across the picket line. Lay down, G.I., lay down, G.I. We saw it all through the 20th century. And now in the 21st century, it's time to stand up and realize that we should not allow ourselves to be crammed into this rat maze.

2:26:11We should not submit to dehumanization. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned with what's happening in this world. I'm concerned with the structure. I'm concerned with the systems of control, those that control my life and those that seek to control it even more. I want freedom! That's what I want, and that's what you should want! It's up to each and every one of us to turn loose of just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities. Because that is the central mode of control. Make us feel pathetic, small. So we'll willingly give up our sovereignty, our liberty, our destiny.

2:26:45We have got to realize that we're being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state. The 21st century is going to be a new century. Not the century of slavery, not the century of lies and issues with no significance, and classism and statism and all the rest of the modes of control. It's going to be the age of humankind standing up for something pure and something right. What a bunch of garbage liberal, democrat, conservative, republican. It's all there to control you, two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job of slavery incorporated.

2:27:21The truth is out there in front of you, but they lay off this buffet of lies. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it. Do you got me? Oh, gosh. I'm pumped on this right now. That sounds like Antifa. Right? That doesn't sound right-wing at all. It doesn't sound like a right-winger at all. At all. I mean, everything he's saying is true. Yeah. That's what's not. It's like he's all red in the face now. This movie, Richard Linklater, right, made this? Yeah, yeah. This was a fun movie. Really fine. That's like 90s, right? Was it 90s? No, no, no, no, because I was already doing drugs.

2:27:53No, it had to be 2000s. If I had to guess, 2002. 2001? Yeah, October 2001. Nice. I only started smoking weed when I was 17, and then I started experimenting with hallucinogens in those first few years of college. Just taking acid by yourself, watching that movie, being like blown away. The animation was so cool. It was just shaky. Yeah. So you saw that thing that I had to do at the White House the other day? I did see it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. People are pissed. Who's pissed? I don't know. People online. What? Because I was at the White House? Yeah, they're like, Joe, you can't be at the fucking White House, Joe.

2:28:25You said you were fucking politically homeless. I am. He joked about it. He called me a liberal during the whole thing. He's like, Joe, he's very liberal. I saw another. The other thing, the big conspiracy theory is that Trump is mad at you and he came up to the UFC and he was talking shit to you. No, it was opposite. That video came out and it was like, look, Trump's fucking Joe Rogan getting embarrassed by Trump at the fucking UFC event. It was literally the opposite. I texted him on Friday about Ibogaine, and I was telling him how there's all these vets. That's a hallucinogen? This is the one the vets use.

2:28:59Yeah. So they've had to go to Mexico to get this. So I've had these two different podcasts with Brian Hubbard and Rick Perry. Rick Perry was the governor of Texas, and they talked about Ibogaine, and Brian Hubbard was relaying his story about how Ibogaine saved him from addiction and fixed his brain. And then they had all these other stories of all these other veterans and all these different people that had PTSD and opiate addiction. I know a lot of people who've gone down there to do it. First, I found out about it from my friend Ed Clay, who runs a CPI. He's one of the guys that runs the Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana that the UFC uses for stem cells.

2:29:38He had a pill problem and he went down there and did it and then opened up his own retreat down there because it was so potent, because it worked so well. What is the compound, though? It's called Ibogaine. Synthetic, like acid? No, no, no. It's from a plant. It's from the aboga tree. And this one thing that they do is not recreational. It's supposed to be a horrible experience. You shit yourself, you throw up, and you have this very weird experience where it goes over your entire life and shows you in every detail why you're like this and why you do this. Sounds terrible. Shuts off withdrawals and addiction on a lot of people.

2:30:19It's like really effective really But for a lot of these guys with PTSD was the only thing that fucking helped them and for the longest time They've had to go to Mexico or to other countries and it's really expensive so they formed the Texas Ibogaine initiative and Is it lieutenant governor Dan Patrick is that what his title is? So he dedicated a hundred million dollars to it and so now they're gonna start doing it with people like soldiers and police officers and different people with PTSD and, and, you know, just people with just general depression. It's in all sorts of addictions, not just like, uh, opiates, but alcohol, gambling, all sorts of shit.

2:30:59And I told them about it and I told them, no, no, but I had these guys on the podcast and I know so many people that have done it, particularly soldiers that have done it and, and people that with opiate, like my friend Ed. And, and I said, I told him about it. I said how effective it is. And I said, you know, and it's been held up for so long. And he said, what are you looking for? You looking for FDA approval? He goes, it sounds good to me. He said, let's do it. And so literally sees me at the UFC the next day, shakes my hand and says, it's done. Wow. That's what he was saying. That's so funny.

2:31:30I was like, I said, thank you, sir. It wasn't like he was mad at me at all. People jump on these like conclusions like. Well, that's OK. You know, you're allowed to. But this is the truth. That's that's exactly what happened. He came to me and he said, it's done. We're going to take care of it. This is a good thing. It's a good thing for the soldiers. It's a good thing for everybody. And then he had the press conference the next week. But why would anybody be? It's so funny. So like how they just choose to be against things, even good things. Like that's, it's unquestionably a really good thing.

2:31:55That one is a really good thing for everybody because addiction is a huge problem. And Ibogaine is one of the most effective treatments for addiction that they've ever found. Another one that's really good for addiction is psilocybin. They're going to study that as well and hopefully fast track that as well. That's part of this bill. This bill is all about this executive order. This executive order is all about psychedelic treatments for people with depression, mental health disorders. And it's all to reclassify this stuff. And this is one of the things that I said. And this is why it was important for me to not just be there, but to say this, that these drugs are not illegal because they're harmful.

2:32:33Alcohol is harmful. It's legal. Oxycodone is harmful. It's legal. they're illegal because of the 1970s controlled substances act yeah this is by the nixon administration this is just they wanted to silence the anti-war people and the civil rights people that's it so they said what are these people doing well they're doing acid they're taking mushrooms they're doing this they're doing that said make all that shit illegal as fuck make it the most ill so they put it all into schedule one yeah which means it has no medicinal benefit and I was telling him, I'm like, it has benefit. And I always had a benefit.

2:33:05It could save lives. Yeah, I get terrified of psychedelics at this point. I used to love them, but I just, I mean, every time, if I take mushrooms, acid, doesn't matter what it is, there will be an hour where I'm crying, talking to God and thinking about my mother. Every time. Maybe that's what you need in your life. Maybe, I don't know, dude. Sometimes I can just push it down. I think it should be regulated in the sense that I think We should understand it better, make sure it's pure, and make sure that it's administered by people who know what they're doing. And that's what they're doing at places like Beyond, which is in Mexico.

2:33:42People are going down there and having these Ibogaine sessions. But they're also doing it where they're strapped up to heart monitors. They're very careful. You can't do it if you have a bad heart because apparently it's really rough. Apparently it's not fun at all. Again, I haven't done it. But the people that I know that have done it, it's rescued them. Dude, let's microdose some Ibogaine. I don't think you gotta go I think you gotta meet the devil cocksucker Joey Diaz and he says what the fuck you doing with that microdose I'm trying to meet the devil yeah when I went when I was younger I was like dude I would love to go on like a peyote retreat when you hear the same thing it's like you vomit and you spend fucking you know you have to have a special shaman like walk you through it and guide it and they pat your head with a wet towel and peyote is mescaline and I had a buddy of mine who did mescaline in New York City He said he could hear people talking in another building.

2:34:29He goes, he was watching them through the window. They were far away and he could hear them talking in his head. I was like, what the fuck, dude? I bet you he couldn't hear what they were saying. I bet he could. I bet you he was making up their words. Mm-mm. I think he tapped in. I think he tapped in to the quantum field. Yeah. Whoa. And he was inside their head. Like the alien technology, just instantaneous transport. It doesn't have to go through sound. That's it. You can just pick up on the frequency of their thoughts. All drugs would be legal. Whatever. It's your body. Exactly. If alcohol is legal, and I think it should be, it's one of the worst ones for you.

2:35:04If that shit's legal, how many people every year... The president of Columbia was like, he was like, alcohol is worse than cocaine. It was a quote a couple years ago. You did say that. Oh no, it was Hunter Biden. It was Hunter Biden. I think it's actually true. I think it is true. I think actual real cocaine in terms of the actual, from the coca tree. The disco shit. I'll tell you what's definitely better for you is coca leaves those people that live in like the alps They chew on coca leaves. That's like in Like high mountainous areas high altitude herders. They chew coca leaves. Yeah, they love that shit.

2:35:38I'm sure it's supposed to be really good Supposed to like great coffee Yeah, for real. It's like not supposed to be like drunk coke. It's supposed to be like You're you feel energized and stimulated and it's not bad for you, but it fucks your teeth up. I'm sure You get these dudes with these rotten cocaine chew teeth. Have you ever seen it? No, I haven't. Find me some coca leaf teeth pictures. Yeah. Ask perplexity about this condition and why? Why do people get coca leaf tea? Face. Because it does. It rots your teeth the way it looks like. Yeah, I'm sure. But that should be legal too. Just brush your fucking teeth.

2:36:15Yeah. Maybe not though. Maybe it eats your teeth. Because you got to think about it. If you can make cocaine out of it, what kind of acid stuff is in that leaves? I don't know. It's just a leaf, right? Something else is coming up. Oh! It's betel nuts or something. Oh, my God. Betel nuts? What is a betel nut? So it doesn't fuck them up from coca leaves? Oh, even better. Bolivia legalizes chewing... Click on that link. NBC News to the right of that. Ew. Yeah, look at that. Bolivia legalizes chewing and ingesting coca leaves. Bolivia wins. They're ahead of us. They win. And the real problem with it is fentanyl and the fact that you have to get it from a fucking Coke dealer.

2:36:57Yeah. Those are the real problems. Having to talk to a Coke dealer is actually the worst part of the entire process. Pope plans to chew cocoa leaves during Bolivia visit. Jesus Christ, the Pope's dead now. They killed him because he wanted to chew the cocoa leaves. That's a 2015 article. That's wild, dude, because it is weird that, I mean, is cocaine worse than alcohol? Because if it's not, why is alcohol the one that's legal? He specifically requested to chew it. Wow. What a freak. Duncan Trussell has a great joke about Adderall. Oh, yeah? He goes, Adderall's like, someone did cocaine and went, I can fix this.

2:37:38That's a great joke.

2:37:43I think, I mean, I've never done Adderall either for the same reason that I've never done coke. Like fuck it just seems too good seems like it gets you too jazzed up I mean I had like debilitating I still have debilitating ADHD. I haven't done Adderall and what does that mean though? So I get like I get anxiety if I if I look at my mail on my kitchen counter right now There's a pile this high of mail mm-hmm if I look at it like I feel like not doing the work You're not look going through your mail. It's just a crippling depression. It feels like Like if I do my taxes like I have a business manager that does all this shit, but when I had to do it myself It would like cripple me I would like I would feel like I've had depression issues back in the day I felt like depression I feel like I want to lie down why literally when I just look at the mail on my counter They call it um ADHD paralysis where there's things that you don't like to do and the tedious little tasks right um That it feels like really like schoolwork was like really bad for me It was really really hard But on the flip side if there's something you really love do you have a lot of attention to it a lot of energy?

2:38:48I dive in to like I obsess over it. So like I I love the things that I do. I love work Like I really love what I do for a living. I do a bunch of things really But like I love work. I love getting on business meetings. I love taking a phone call I love you know, I love writing jokes. I love going on the road I like so the things that I love to do I dive completely into and I just sort of see that's where it's stupid to me that that's a disease Right. That seems like you're allergic to boring shit. I don't think that's a disease. I think modern society has got people convinced that's a disease.

2:39:19I think that there are, yes, I think most people don't want to fold their laundry. I think most people don't want to do their taxes or go through their mail. But for me, it hits me in a way where, like, I feel a physical, like, recoil. Like, I genuinely, like. You're allergic to boring shit. I'm allergic to boring shit. I don't think it's a bad thing at all. I think they've got you tricked. They've got all of us tricked. Yeah, everybody that I know and me included that probably has ADHD or I think I can go to a doctor They'd be wrong with me. They'd say there's something wrong with you You could have got on pills when you were a kid and it would have ruined all of it Yeah, it would have fucked up that weird gift that you have where you can lock in us So what's the flip side of that weird gift?

2:39:58The other thing doesn't seem important right other shit is boring But you have way more energy for the thing. That's exciting. It's a great point. It's a superpower. Yeah, it's a great point And by the way, I've said that specifically, that my ADHD is a superpower in certain regards. The fact that I could get so locked in on the things that I really, really want to do. But I've never really considered the fact that, like, it's making me avoid doing the things that just are fucking tedious, whatever. And by the way, I figured it out. I still went down the path. I'm 44 years old. I get my shit done.

2:40:27I still – the laundry gets folded. The taxes get done. Yeah, it's just boring. Yeah. Yeah. That's discipline. Discipline technology. That's all I was going to say. The discipline part is, like, some people can't. Right. Or like how does it get done that you know, I mean I was like we're like a really bad student Like I just skin in my teeth graduated I understand But the idea that this gift that you have is what doesn't get concentrated on the gift is you have an extraordinary Amount of energy that you can devote to something you really love most people wish they had that that's the gift the Flip side of it of course the other things aren't even remotely interesting because you need to be stimulated in order to give something all of your attention.

2:41:07Some people could just drone on and drone on, and they don't have ADHD. That's not good. I think ADHD is good for you. It made growing up pretty tough. Because you get called a bad kid. I didn't get good grades. I'm a millionaire, and I had bad grades when I was 12. You're right. You're not wrong. No. You're not wrong, dog. I know I'm right. You're right. All right, let's wrap this bitch up. I got to get out of here. So Gas Digital, what else? Tell everybody. Skank Fest on sale today. Oh, shit. 420. What a good time to sell. Is it 421? Are they on sale today or tomorrow? They're on sale today.

2:41:49Right now. Yes, this comes out tomorrow. So yesterday they went on sale. We should have done this podcast yesterday because those tickets go quick. They go fast. So the all-access passes, if I had to guess, are pretty close to sold out. But you can still get single-day passes. Well, I bet the skankers already know. What do you call your people? Skanks. Skanks? The skanks already know. Yeah, we got a big lineup this year. That's amazing, dude. Congratulations on all this because every comic always agrees that it is absolutely the best festival. They fucking love it. They love the vibe. They love how much effort and time you guys put into it.

2:42:18It's awesome, dude. Congratulations. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yeah, but it's going to be, you should come one day, Joe. I will come one day. Skankfest.com. Skankfest.com. And yeah, get those tickets. Shane's going to be there. Mark Norman, Derek Andre. It sounds great. Everybody. I mean, 170 comics. Everybody loves it. All right. Thank you. Ciao. That was fine. Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.