#2490 - RZA

26:56I love what Bruce Lee said. He practiced the art of not fighting. You know what I mean? So I told that to my son. I was like, yo, bro, listen, if you can run, bro, run. Yeah. I mean, be up out of there and motherfucking chase you. You know, you got to go to, you got to think on something. But if you could just, yo, yo, you want to fight? Yo, you know what, Joe? I'll see you later, bro. You know what I mean? I know. There's too many people that get into fights for no reason, and then you wind up changing the rest of your life. You got a scar that's going to be with you forever, or you accidentally kill somebody.

27:32It's stupid. It's a stupid thing to do. And there's so many men that feel like they just have to prove themselves, which is what a gym is for. Go to the gym. Go to the gym. Work out with other fighters. Train. Get beat up. Realize where you're at. Get a realistic sense of your actual ability, and then improve upon them. But don't go getting in street fights, please, God. Don't do it. Don't do it. And for me, I put all my aggression and all my energy into my art. You know, you think about some of my early songs. You know, when the motherfucking rock is ball. That was like, I used to have, I had like a problem of, I don't know if it was anger management maybe.

28:16But I would just like, I don't know, I needed to hear the sound of breaking glass. I used to scream. Like, Jizzle was like, yo, this dude. And I realized that I had so much anger in me that I couldn't really get it out. I was kind of hulkish in a way, like Bruce Banner or some shit, right? But then through music, it started to come out, and it started to come out. By the time I got to Wu-Tang Forever, a lot of my anger was in the song. If you want beef, then bring the rockers. And all that stage and all that energy. So it really helped me. And then I realized, bringing it up today to my new film, I'm watching it and I'm just like, okay.

29:06Once again, I took all the anger and I put it into the art. You know what I mean? There's actually a character in the film, his name is Unique. Did you catch that when you saw the piece? Unique is the name of old Dirty Bastard. His original name was A-San Unique. And so that was my way of giving homage to him by naming the lead character of my new film, Unique. And it says in the film, he says, you got a problem with anger management. He says, yeah, I'm working on that. And what I love about the art of it is that the problem that he had with anger management was his reaction. Like a lot of us, we just react too much.

29:58We react before we think, right? Because they say a man could think seven times before he reacts. That's how fast your mind can move, but we go on that first impulse. But this character, he holds the anger until one morning he's at a veteran home, right? And he's sitting there and he's having breakfast and he has this can, right? You see this thing, right? And he's like, he digs the spoon in there and it's like fucking, there's nothing in it. It's not even, it's like one spoon of chocolate in it. And he gets what? Angry. And he bangs it. Boom! Who the fuck left one spoon of chocolate in the can?

30:36But then it took an old man that was settled to tell him, once more than chocolate. Change a whole glass of milk. Change a whole glass of milk. And then you notice that character from that, then he calmed down, he started reading to the kids. And that was kind of me taking some of my personality, some of old Dirty's personality, some of the personalities that I see in my community, and putting it into this character to say, like, yo, sometime, yo, calm down, listen to the wisdom of your elders, right? Have you ever, have you ever in your life, I'm going to ask you, have you ever like come across some old person, whether it's a homeless guy, a devastated guy, your uncle, somebody, that you kind of didn't look up to in no way, just kind of neighbors, but then they say something to you that's profound and changed your life?

31:27Oh, man. I'm trying to find an example. I mean, I've definitely gotten a lot of advice from old timers. But definitely people, especially people that have done a lot of things. You know, people that have accomplished things and made mistakes and recovered from their mistakes. Right. Yeah. I mean, actually, because I was maybe 11 and there was a dope fiend that was dating my aunt and he was at the table and shit and he was like nodding, but he was just, he was kind of in the chamber, bro. You know kids, we're looking at this guy and shit. And he says something about, like, you know, I don't care, man.

32:12You got to get knowledge, man. You got to get knowledge, man. The gods is right, man. You got to get knowledge. I started reading it since that day, bro. Really? Seriously. The dope fiend inspired you to read? Yeah. Because he said you got to get. What happened was he had knowledge of self, I guess, back before the drugs hit him. And now he's like dead. And he was like, he was like, you got to get knowledge. The guards are right. The guards are right. And so. What was he on? What was the drug of choice? He was on fucking, he shot that shit up. Heroin? Yeah. He was on heroin. That's the old days back when they shoot it.

32:49Now everybody's on pills. Right. Yeah. I never, I never, I don't know about that. I don't know about it either. But I mean, I don't know about it personally, but that's, it's essentially what oxycodone is. All those pain pills that you see all these people dying of. Right. Opioids. Yeah, opioids. Yeah. The number one problem. I mean, I think the deaths in America, it's upwards of 70 ,000 a year. I know it's crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Just from overdosing on pills. Yeah. And most of it happened because of the Sackler family. The what? The Sackler family. This one family that convinced people that taking these incredibly potent opioids.

33:29Did you ever see that Netflix docu-series Painkiller? I didn't see that one. It's really good. It's all about the Sackler family. Peter Berg made it. Same guy. You know Peter? I know Peter, yeah. He's great. Lone Survivor made a bunch of excellent movies. He's great. He made this documentary on documenting how, well, it's not a documentary, a docudrama series or recreation, showing how this one family, they wanted to figure out a way where they could sell opioids to everyone. And the way they did it was like giving people pain management tools, giving people medication that you could be on forever.

34:11And they made it and they pushed it through these different doctors. And they had all these hot ladies who were representatives of the pharmaceutical drug companies would come to the doctor and they were the the reps that would come and sell the things yeah i mean really and they were all financially incentivized to sell it and they tried to pretend that it wasn't addictive and they lied about that and they got who knows how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people ruined their lives because of it and like i said 70 000 die every year just in america just from opioids that's crazy bro from overdoses i mean And how many more would there be of that if it wasn't for Narcan?

34:51That's the counter, right? Yeah, that's the stuff that the EMTs give you. If they find you overdosing, they give you Narcan, and it kills it and brings you back to life. And that one family, you know, no one's gone to jail. No one's gone to jail. I mean, I don't even know how much they've been fined. But if it wasn't for what they did, and again, well-documented in that Netflix series, it's horrific, man. It's really terrifying because it's not just the people that died and the people that are addicted. It's all the family members that were affected by them, all the children of those people and what happened with their lives, all the spouses and the brothers and sisters of those people and what happened with their lives.

35:31That's crazy. When you were saying that, the imagery in my head was that scene in American Gangster when it was like Thanksgiving. And they showed Frank Lucas at the table with his whole family. They had a nice spread of food. And then the camera went and showed all the families that was hooked on the Blue Magic drug. They had the lady dying over here, the kid looking at her mother dead. or so the difference I guess that's the image that came to my head when you said that but that guess the difference is in that particular case somebody goes to jail and pays the price for the crime but in this particular case you're saying that nobody nobody went to jail they did it legally somehow or another they pimped it out and then sold it to everybody legally I mean it's it's it's sick they're the biggest drug dealers that have ever existed fuck all these street drug dealers.

36:28I mean, these guys killed 70 ,000 people a year for who knows how many years. And it was probably more than that before they figured out Narcan. And part of it is also because people get addicted to it and then they get stuff from the cartel that has fentanyl in it and that's why they're dying. But there's a bunch of people that just died from straight up overdose of opioids, too. It's terrifying. And it's over the counter. Yeah. And yeah, no, it's not over the counter. or you have to get prescribed, but doctors are happy to prescribe it for you. I got my nose fixed. I had a deviated septum, and they cleaned it out.

37:02I was leaving the doctor's office, and he gave me two prescriptions for opioids. And I said, but I'm not in pain. He goes, but you probably will be. And I go, but is it going to be worse than this right now? We're just out of the operation. My nose was, I have like these things stuffed up your nose to keep your nostrils open. And I was like, are you sure? It's going to be worse than this? And he gave me two prescriptions. And I went home and I was like, I don't need these. I didn't fill them. But I'm like, this is not. But this guy was giving me two different opioids to take. You would have went back.

37:41I probably would have been hooked. Yeah, you would have went back. I know a lot of people that got hooked, man. I'm under no illusion that I'm stronger than those people that I would have figured out a way to not get hooked. So many people that I know got hooked. so you're saying like let me just go back on this because i actually don't take nothing bro like yeah i drink tea or you know i'm very um i mean i do pump an asthma inhaler yeah yeah when i get when i get it because i had asthma since yeah i had asthma my whole life other than that i don't really take no tylenol or nothing bro yeah fuck all that stuff but you're saying though at the end of the day, just taking, throwing this back at you, the doctor basically sling, gave you some free shit to kind of have you as a customer.

38:28Because when crack came out, I remember this. I think he's financially incentivized. I think they're financially incentivized to prescribe you this medic. Because he didn't say, if you're in pain, contact me and I'll fill you a prescription. Because it's just my nose, man. It's just the nose. It's not that big a deal like I slept fine it was nothing that's crazy and I tried to tell him I'm like I don't understand why you're giving me we had a conversation I go is it gonna be worse than it is right now like right now I'm not in any pain he goes it could probably get worse like how much worse cuz right now I don't feel anything it's like nothing it's like mildly uncomfortable because I have these tubes stuffed up my nose right but this is not this doesn't require heroin this is crazy I'm not laughing at you I'm laughing I'm just But it is kind of nuts that they're financially incentivized.

39:16Let me go back to the film. No, because in the film, there's an article that I hear opens up in the paper. It's not the same subject, but it's a medical thing. And it's just like this particular county is leading in this particular process because there's money in it. If it's money, sadly, you know, and that's a movie, but sadly, if there's money involved, people can become insidious, right? Yeah. People can become like, yeah, you could get strung out. You could get strung out. I sold, you know, I got, I wrote 20 prescriptions this week and they're not cheap, right? How much is the prescription when you fill it?

40:08Is that like 40 bucks, 100 bucks? I don't know. It's not cheap. But more importantly the doctor gets incentivized Some dark shit. I was reading about this doctor that was an oncologist So he's dealing with cancer patients and he was giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer Because it would get him more money Yeah, you gotta hit my emotion because I just lost my brother to cancer my brother power Yeah, I'm sorry to take a moment. I'm sorry Yeah, it's one of the most profitable medications, unfortunately, for physicians. Well, not unfortunately. Look, if it saves your life, that's wonderful.

40:50But the reality is this one doctor that I'm discussing, this one doctor decided that he was going to get paid more by just giving chemotherapy to people that didn't have cancer. So he diagnosed a bunch of people with cancer. They didn't have it. He said, oh, unfortunately, you have cancer. The good news is we get you on chemotherapy right away. We think we can kick it. And they were regular people with nothing wrong with them. And this fucking guy gave them poison. You know how much the chemo costs? It's very expensive. Yeah, it's about$30 ,000 to$60 ,000 a hit. Yeah, I'm not surprised. And the doctors profit off of that.

41:27It's one of the most profitable medications that doctors prescribe, unfortunately. That's kind of fucked. And look, most doctors would never fucking imagine doing that in a million years. But this one doctor like his his thought process was hey, this is how I get paid You know, I'm dealing with all this overhead. I'm dealing with all this liability insurance I'm dealing with medical school bills. I'm dealing with all this fuck this I'm just gonna start prescribing a little bit of chemotherapy here and there to people that don't actually have cancer And I don't know how he got caught. I don't know what happened But I think it was just they got him there was some red flag.

42:00Yeah, they got him. He's in jail There was some red flag where they noticed, like, why are so many people getting cancer with this one doctor? Like, why is his number so high? It doesn't it's not representative of the percentage. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's crazy. But that's what that's what's hard to imagine is that money would incentivize someone to tell a person like how many people just commit suicide because they think they're dying of cancer. And they go, fuck, I'm not on. I don't want to do this. I don't want to suffer. I'm just gonna fucking go out on my own terms, you know? Yeah, well, how many people's lives did that ruin?

42:37Well, I don't, well, that's, first of all, that was terrible, I had to kind of emotionally rebound from that because it's just, you kind of made me think like, you know, we don't have the answer to shit, you know what I mean, and things happen in life, and sometimes you just like, you know, but I do have instinct, and I always, you know, I just felt that something wasn't, I don't know. I won't even go there. But you said that money, why would he do it for the money? It's like, yo, everything is for the money, bro. Motherfuckers is doing, you know, cash rules everything around me. You know what I mean?

43:15Get the money. Yeah. Dollar, dollar bill. And people were stuck on that, you know what I mean? The goal, hopefully, because we live in a capitalist society, but the goal should be that cash doesn't rule you. Money shouldn't rule you. We need it. You know what I mean? You know, food, clothing, and shelter, you're going to need that. There ain't nothing given here. But it doesn't surprise me, you know, that that's the motivation for insidious behavior. You know? I'm going to go back a little history here. We're working on another project where we tap into, it's kind of fantasy. See, I just write off my imagination.

43:58But I had this family. Their ancestors are from Congo. And in the Congo, they trace their ancestry back to the Leopold days. And you think about the Leopold days, millions of Africans were mined, chopped off their arms and shit. all because the gag was they wanted them to work and to get the rubber from the rubber tree. So the rubber at one point became the main gold of the world, right? And King Leopold went over to Congo. And you get Tarzan out of this shit, all right? That's the fictional story. But he goes over, and I think they said at minimum 2 million people. but I think it's 5 million that were just mimed or killed just for the economic profit of what those rubber trees was offering to Western civilization.

45:05That's happening right now with cobalt. I had this guy, Siddharth Kara, on the podcast. He wrote a book. Jamie, do you remember what the name of that book was? His book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So cobalt is a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries and many electronics. And that is cobalt red. The blood of the Congo powers our lives. It's a very disturbing conversation. And he had he snuck in cameras and got some footage of these people doing what, you know, you think that this stuff is mined in some sort of industrial process. Look at this. This is how these people are mining.

45:45And you've got women who have babies on their backs and all this cobalt that they're knocking out of the ground is completely toxic. Some of them just have like a bandana over their mouth that they're using to protect themselves from it. But look how deep that is with human beings that are just pulling cobalt. They live on dirt floors. They live at the lowest level of poverty imaginable. They don't have clean water. They don't have good food. And they are pulling out a mineral that's essential to the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, which is our connectivity through the Internet, through cell phones.

46:24And this is at the which is kind of crazy. If you think of like the most technologically sophisticated aspect of our society, if you follow it all the way down to the very bottom of the food chain, you've got slave labor. And that's a giant percentage of the cobalt that's in our cell phones and our electronics is coming out of this place You know, so I never seen that before a lot of them are run by China Yeah, and it's it's very scary man. I never seen it. But but I wrote a lyric That touches upon it. I didn't but I never seen those images before he's got video See if you can find the video the videos dark.

47:01I think my lyrics said uh Let's see if I can remember my lyric. It was a song I wrote called The Fate of the World Is In Your Hand. It was me and DJ Scratch. And I knew that Cobalt or I knew that they was getting the mineral from Congo. But I didn't know it like that. It was something like, you know, as an artist, you're fucking antenna, right? You get shit. But I said something. I said, I'm trying to remember the lyric I said. It was like a... Hey, could you pull up the lyrics to... Here's the song, The Fate of the World as well, after you do this? Yeah, play that video real quick, but please, look at this.

47:44How crazy is this? By the way, all this scene, almost biblical toil, the prize is cobalt. And here's the thing, all this shit is super toxic. So all these people are breathing in this insanely toxic dust, and they're knocking it out of the ground with hammers and carrying it off in bags. Look at this shit, yo. Yeah. This looks biblical, bro. Right, and imagine how fucking heavy these bags are, and they're doing this all day long. Look at these guys struggling to pick those bags up, and they're carrying this shit all day long, and they're just knocking it to the ground trying to pull out this cobalt.

48:18And the thing is, like, this is what we need to power our phones, which is so crazy. If you think about all these people that are virtue signaling, about how wonderful and ethical and moral they are. They're doing it on a phone that is literally powered by slave labor. That's crazy. It's crazy. And it's crazy that this is going on in 2026, and most people aren't even aware of it. Well, you're back. Like I just said, the project I'm working on now, we just talk about it. We're tracing it back to the rubber tree, but it's still going on. Still going on. And that's just cobalt. There's other stuff that they're mining there, too.

48:56It's very similar. There's other what they call conflict minerals. Pull up my lyric for The Fate of the World. I just want to just point out what I said there, if you got that on Genius or something.

49:12Here it is. Yeah, it says, A thousand years of darkness, the world got struck with sorrow, how will be thy name, we need a better tomorrow. Go to the second verse. Let me see.

49:27Uh, let me see. Wait. Oh, no. Wrong song. That's what it is. I got too many songs. It's called, uh... You forgot the name of your own song. That's hilarious. Yeah, bro. You got too many songs. What's the other one on that one? Go open that. No, not that one. Go to the other, uh, the other, what do you call it? The other, go to the album title. Yeah, hit the album Saturday afternoon. You're going to edit some of this, right? No. You don't edit? Okay, well, y 'all gonna bear with us. Saturday afternoon, Kung Fu Theater. No, like go to the, oh, it's called The Great Fisherman. Let me see the titles of the songs.

50:12Fisherman. Fisherman. Yeah, pull that one up. For those lyrics. So what is genius? Genius is it shows all the lyrics? Yeah. That's what it is? And then it actually has a song underneath it. Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know that existed. People can annotate and tell you what people were meant by what they said. Oh, really? Yeah. On genius? Yeah. Oh, cool. Okay, right there. There you go. Look. The great fishermen, the fisher of men are trying to make a remedy for the elixir of sin, a premonition. We need divine intervention. This whole world, the whole world is a stage, so it's time for intermission.

50:43In the middle of the Congo jungle, there's a combo of concentrated elements that make the world's phones glow. But they got a small zone for their phones, though. because they don't even got reception out there. But we used to communicate just banging on the bongo. That's when the village was more motherly and more brotherly. But then the dust came through and killed them all for the rubber tree. King Leopold City was built from a sea of gold, and the Resurrectors still trading on a silky road. Yeah. Those are some bars. Respect. But I'm not doing that to show off or nothing. But it's real. Yeah.

51:19But you just gave me, but you gave me like the full, you gave me the connotation and the annotation of the lyric. Because I didn't even see, I never seen that before. Oh, that's crazy. I just, I just heard that they got to get it from there. And I knew the history of King Leopold, but I did not know that this is still. Still? This is crazy. Yeah, it's still going on and it'll continue going on as long as no light is shown on it. And this is what Siddharth Carr was trying to do with his book and the tour that he was doing and doing podcasts and trying to let – I mean, he risked his life, man. I mean, they questioned him and he got very lucky that he got out of there with that footage.

51:57Right. Because they want to make sure that nobody knows about this shit. They don't want any outrage. They want the mining to keep going as planned. I mean, it's – It's dark. It's dark, yeah. Because it's a multi-multi-billion dollar industry that's powered by abject poverty. It might be trillion. Probably trillion. Yeah, because like you're just saying, if it's in all our phones, that means— Not just our phones, but I think it's in a lot of electronics. I think it might be—is cobalt in electric cars? I think they're trying to make new formulations of batteries without cobalt. So there's a Jamie what is that I know a lot of the Chinese cell phones are using a different battery technology instead of lithium-ion They have something else that's more dense Well, that's what yeah cobalt's a critical component in lithium batteries right That's crazy.

52:55Yeah lithium-ion batteries. What is it? What is like Oppo? There's a bunch of these new Chinese companies that have cell phones that have much more battery. Like, instead of like a Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra has a 5 ,000 milliamp battery in it. I think these Oppo phones have 7 ,000 plus. But I think it's carbon silicon based batteries. I wonder if they have cobalt in them. you know as technology for batteries changes and advances they need different kinds of components in them but i mean then you gotta find out where are they getting that shit from is that another like conflict mineral that they have people digging out of the ground with sticks but the other thing to think about you know just let's say it is worth trillions of dollars Because when do the people who, you know, like if that's on my property, bro, you know what I'm saying?

53:58You come to my crib for it, I should get paid off of that. Right. I should be, I mean. Well, you know how it works. China comes in. A lot of these are Chinese run. China comes in. They pay off the people that are in power in these areas. And those people will get wealthy. And then all the people that are the workers, they all get like pennies as small a wage as you could possibly pay them to keep them alive. These people live on dirt floors. It's crazy. No food. It's horrible. It's really dark, man, because it's what powers electronics, which is nuts because that's the most sophisticated aspect of our society in terms of technology.

54:40Well, the government of those places, they're not to get here like I'm like, you know, I'm an artist. and I'm a spiritual man, but they should be like, yo, hold on, bro. Like in Alaska, right? There's a pipeline that goes through Alaska. You know about this pipeline, right? Sure. But the citizens of Alaska, they get a royalty for that. Yes. Okay? Like if I'm in Congo and I got this kobold that's worth trillions and I got all these people, give them a royalty. 100%. If that was America, that would probably be the only way to do it. But obviously you couldn't pay people the way you pay people in the Congo, in America anyway.

55:18We have laws. But this is also why they want illegal immigration. That's part of the reason why they like illegal immigration is because you don't have paperwork. You don't have to pay people what they're supposed to get paid. Do you pull that back up again, Jamie, please? About the silicon carbide batteries. So it seems like one of the reasons for utilizing this new technology is because it's not using as much cobalt. So advanced lithium-ion technology using silicon to replace traditional graphite anodes, offering roughly 20 % to 40 % higher energy density and faster charging, especially in smartphones.

55:54Does it say anything? I thought that a lot. It did because I had cold. Yeah. So it has cobalt in that as well? It enables more sustainable cobalt reduced designs. So you have less cobalt and it's more energy density. So these Chinese phones are, yeah, here it is, Honor Magic 5 Pro. A lot of these OnePlus 13, a lot of these Chinese-made Android phones are using much more advanced battery technology. Are they trying to ease up on it a little bit, basically? I mean, I don't know. The question is, like, where are you getting everything else? Where's all that other shit that's in your phone? And how are you mining that?

56:37If you're hiding how you mine cobalt, how are you mining all the other stuff? Because they're all conflict minerals. And a lot of these minerals, unfortunately, are mined out of the third world. They find them in these places where people are really poor. And the people that live there, they don't benefit from it. Their lives don't get any better. In fact, they get worse because they get poisoned. Well, the thing that, but let me add some wisdom to that. The people got to realize that they are not poor, right? Because if that is valuable and you're standing on it, then you're standing on value.

57:09And that's why they keep them poor because they can't organize them. But think about the Holy Quran for a moment, right? Let me go here for a little spiritual here, right? So in the Holy Quran, it mentions that, you know, if the Muslims were to do what they was going to do, that they would have many wells. Right. Because, you know, they live in the desert, basically. Right. And it says they're going to have abundant of wells. It's not an abundant of water wells in the Middle East. Right. And these are people that are living nomadic, economically, not really at the level of the rest of the world.

57:50But it's a prophecy telling them that they're going to have wells. But what kind of wells they end up having? Oil. Oil wells. Right? And so now all of a sudden, they become the most richest small region in the world. Right. So the promise is fulfilled. Right? But the gag is that the people got to realize sometimes where you stand, where you stand on your land. You know what I mean? The value of it, as the Bible would say, yo, work to the sweat of your brow to dig and plow and make your land valuable. But now if you, so if, I'm just saying that the people where they're going to get, whatever they're going to get, bro.

58:32Okay, I don't care if you're going to get some berries in the Amazon. If the berries is worth money, then the dude who got all the berries got to realize that, yo, bro, let's make a deal. But it seemed like that ain't happening. No. No, it's not happening. And the reason why it's not happening is because you have enormous corporations that come in from other countries. They get contracts and they pay off the people that are the leaders of these countries or the people that are the leaders of the military. And then those people keep these people oppressed. And that's what – I mean it's the people that are running these countries that are making sure that these people don't get paid what they deserve so that they can keep them working there for slave wages.

59:12So they keep their profits as high as possible. They also keep the options as low as possible. People don't have any options. If you're living in the Congo and you're near where these cobalt mines are, what are your other options? Right. You know? I remember I'm going to shout out Burnham Boy. Burnham Boy is a good dude. He had told me something, gave me some insight about Nigeria. And like he was saying to me like how Wu-Tang, when we was young, you know, we had to sling street pharmaceuticals. Right. But out there, oil is like a street pharmaceutical. Like dudes was slinging petrol and slinging oil and shit.

59:54In Nigeria? Yeah. Wow. Like that's crazy, right? It's crazy. But the gag I'm saying is that still, you know, of course the government controls all that. But sometimes the people got to just snap, you know, just, yo, I don't know, stand on your land, yo. and realize the value of where you stand. You know, every man has a value, right? We all walk with a living value. Every life is precious. Every life that's born changes the world. Soon as somebody is born today, this ain't the same world it was yesterday. Right. Soon as somebody returns to the essence, this ain't the same world. So we got to kind of, but the people, I'm going back to the people, not to the military or to the government.

1:00:38and the people got to realize that, yo, hold on, bro. It's you. You're the value. Because without them, right, until they do get 10 million robots to do that shit, which I'm not opposed to that, send 10 million robots to dig it up, bro. And still, though, if it's on my land, break me off. You know what I mean? But people got to snap into that. Well, these places are all guarded by the military. So it's all people with guns. You can't leave. You're doing their bidding. You'll get shot. They kill people. They bury you. No one notices. No one cares. The value of human life is extremely low. Yeah, it's satanic.

1:01:20It's dark. Well, let's jump back on my film because in my film, the value of life is once again, we're talking about the world, but yet I got to relate it back because in our film, the value of life seems low as well. Yeah. Low for the person living, more for the valuable for the person that kills them. Right. Yeah. Without giving too much of the film away. What happens in the film actually happens in real life. I mean, that that is it's based. I mean, you say it's based on real life, but there's been real life cases of people. They've harvested people's organs for profit. And that's a thing. I mean, that's a big problem with people in China.

1:02:02You know, people go to China for for organs. Like there's a tourism to get organs replaced. Like say if you need a new kidney or you need a new liver or whatever. We got it. Yeah, they have it. And what they'll do is they'll take their fucking prisoners. Oh, look, AB blood type, perfect. Whack. And then now you got some dude's heart. Business. Yeah. It's crazy. There's another element that, this is Rizzo right here. I'm live on Joe Rogan podcast. I got a new film coming out May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. written and directed by the RZA, starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood, Rockman Dunbar, the name of a few.

1:02:43It's produced by Quentin Tarantino and my wife, Talani Diggs. Hey, baby. I did an official radio drop. That sounded like we were on the radio. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the RZA. Coming in at five after the hour. But I love how art can touch upon things, even if it's unintentional, right? What I mean by unintentional is that, you know, as an artist, I just let the shit flow. Like when you showed all that Congo Cobalt, I'd never seen it. But yet it's in your lyrics. Yeah, but that's in my lyrics. And even if you're telling me there's chain of stuff here, I don't know about that. I do know some things that happened with some articles, but I wasn't, I'm not in depth, what do you call it?

1:03:34N-D-E-P-H-T-H. I don't have in depth knowledge of it. But I strive as an artist, Joe, is to actually to at least show the surface so that, you know, I don't know how deep the pool is, but I will show the surface through my art. And I think in this film, which is a, it's an action film though, right? so joe only seen the first half of it so he doesn't know about the revenge-o-matic ass kicking and i'm not going to spoil it but i believe it there's already plenty of ass kicking already right right exactly seeing some okay but it gets fucking uh you're gonna have a good time i'm sure have a good time but still once again the art of it um it has a i'm realizing as i'm watching with different audiences like when i watched it in uh new york i had motherfuckers yelling at the screen they was on some shit when i watched it in la the audience was like it was a like a sense of nervousness it was in the room when i watched in chicago it was standing ovation you know i mean i watched it in san francisco and the q a was very intellectual so i'm realizing that okay this is touching.

1:04:49Then when I watched it, this other place, the girl, with Dave, actually, I watched it with Dave Chappelle, he said that, you got bars in this motherfucker. I said, what do you mean by bars? He said, well, the guy says, the girl says, first the girl, you haven't seen this scene yet, but Paris Jackson is telling him that everybody in this town goes to church on Sunday, except for Jimmy and his gang of degenerates. They party all night Saturday, and they sleep all day Sunday. She said, and I guess they're not afraid to go to hell. And then the hero says, but where I come from, they say heaven is what you make it, and hell is what you got to go through to get it.

1:05:36And she was like, that sounds right. And David was like, that's a fucking bar.

1:05:42And yo, hold on. So last time I was here, it was Donnell Rawlins was here, right? So check it out, bro. I'm showing the film to Dave, right? And we're going to do a Q &A. I went to Yellow Spring, Ohio, bro. Was Donnell there? Bro. He was there, yo. And then he got up and he asked a question. And he started, he interrupted. He talked about the day we was here. And you inspired him to do a podcast. I remember you said, yo, start a podcast. Well, you might even help them, right? And then he said, and I said, yo, yeah, if you need something, hit me. So he hit me up, said, yo, let me get an opening theme track.

1:06:23And so I got like a bunch of beats that's on my little thumb drive. I sent them like five of them, right? And he chose one. Yeah, he told me about this. Yeah. So now he chose one, and that becomes his theme. It was a nice fucking, but that same five tracks, my manager is sending it to other people too and shit. So I did give it to Donnell. I gave it to him gratis. But he comes up in the middle of my Q &A with Dave about my film, and he starts talking about the beat, and he says, RZA is an Indian giver. He said, I was playing. He said, I had it on my podcast for almost two years, and then one day it said flag, license, whatever they do and shit, when you can't use it, you can't use a motherfucking shit.

1:07:11And I was like, I said, oh, yeah, bro, yeah. The people from the Minions, they had got those five tracks as well, and they chose it, and they paid us a lot of money. Not going back to the money of it all. So I told him, I said, that was another beat. He said, nah, son, that was the one. Oh, no. That was the one. I said, bro, they chose it. My manager made the deal. Oh, no. It's off the table now. Oh, no. So he had to change his opening? Yeah. So I owe him. Oh, no. I owe him. That gives him more to complain about. Yeah. Oh, no. It's almost worth giving him the beat just so he doesn't have to complain.

1:07:51Yeah. I owe you Darnell and I'm going to hook you up with something. Actually, he's going to cook you up something nice. All right? I can't wait for this phone call. Son! You know what he did to me, son? He took it back! He said that shit in front of the audience. Oh, he's so funny. I couldn't deny it and shit. I was like, yeah. You know that's hilarious. That's hilarious. Um, but anyway, um, but they love the film too like like the audience and I'm gonna say that cuz I love I love when my peers react to something is this your first feature-length films the fourth fourth Yeah, I know you've done other stuff But this did you have you written and done other than like this?

1:08:33I will you do it this way? This is my second one writing so I wrote my first film man with the iron fist right which was a Quentin Tarantino percent as well. And then it was a kung fu movie. So then I didn't want to get stuck in like, oh, that's all he does. So my second film I didn't write was written by Nicole. And it was called Love Beats Rhymes. And that was like a movie about poetry and a female lead. And it was actually John David Washington. and it was his first feature film as well. And then my third film was called Cutthroat City, which I didn't write. Just once again, I hired Gunn as a director.

1:09:18And in that film, I had Shamik Moore as the lead actor. And I kind of like fell in love with his talent. So that's why he was in Cutthroat City. He's in the Wu-Tang series. He plays Raekwon. And now he's the star of my new film. So we kind of got this, I hate to say it, but we kind of got this Denzel Spike Lee energy, this Kugler Michael B energy. I really like this guy. But on this particular film, yes, I decided to write it and direct it. And I'm back to the basic, right? Quinn Chantino presented my first film, and now here's my fourth film, and he's back in the building. And one of my favorite songs from that first soundtrack is Baddest Man Alive that you did with Black Keys.

1:10:05Dude, that song, that song killed it. Shout out to Dan and Patrick, yo. Yeah, I love those two guys. They're cool as fuck. And that song kills it. That song kills it. That's such a good song. A bunch of dudes used that song as Walkout, Walkout for the UFC. I seen it on a fucking car commercial one day. I was like, okay. Did you guys listen to the lyrics? Right. I guess all you need is that hook, right? Right. Yeah. On this, how we doing on time? We good? Yeah, we're plenty good. On this particular film, I got a guy named, you know, Jason Isbell? Yeah, sure. Yeah. So Jason Isbell did a song in the film.

1:10:49It's called Comic Book Life. And it was, you know, it's my first collaboration with him as well. And it was a pleasure. the lyrics go, Jesus Christ may have walked on water and Superman flies through the sky. The immigrant crossed the border. He's looking for a better life. Trying to find it, he's reminded that dreams are born to die. His reality kills his fantasy. it's not a comic book life you know what I mean so it goes on so I try to when I do films I try to make like a unique musical collaboration of course that was me and the Black Keys back then and on this film we got like music from Jason Isbell we got clearances from the Isley brothers who check this out bro I'm on a plane three days ago heading to Atlanta to show the film.

1:11:58Guess who's sitting in first class in the seat right there? Ron Isley. I never met him before. I'm like the big fan. I love his music. I got two of his songs in my movie. And I'm like, I'm going to show and I look over. I'm like, my wife's like, yeah, that's Ron. And I was like, I got a chance to get up and thank him for, you know, for his work and for even allowing his music to be in my film because that's special. Oh, that's cool. Are you a Ron Isley fan? Not really. You're not the Iceley Brothers, bro? Listen, bro, you got to, let me, I got to put you on some Iceley Brothers, bro. Because if, you know, I'm quite sure your love life is good, all right?

1:12:38I'm quite sure you got a good love life, bro. But if you ever get into any love life trouble, okay, put on the Iceley Brothers. It will smoothen out. Tell me what to get. I'm going to say sensual. Sensual? Yeah. Put that one on. and yeah, I'm going to just give you that one because the way that comes on, bro, your shoulders are going to start moving and shit. Okay. Come in with two glasses of wine? I'm telling you, bro, you're going to be good. Yeah, I'll check it out. Who's your favorite musician? Oh boy, I don't think I have a favorite musician. And I don't even have a favorite genre. You know, I like all kinds.

1:13:27I mean, if you look at my Spotify Green Room playlist, it's all over the place. It goes from Nina Simone to Bill Withers to Wu-Tang to Leonard Skinner to Led Zeppelin. It's all over the place to Gary Clark Jr. It's everywhere. I move around. You name it some dope shit. I like to move around. I like all kinds of shit. I'll listen to Dwight Yoakam and I'll follow it up with, you know, Cool G Rap. I like, you know, one of my favorite albums ever is when Brand New Heavies. Did you ever listen to Brand New Heavies when they got heavy rhyme experience? Did you ever listen to that? I don't know if I know that particular.

1:14:09Oh, Brand New Heavies got together with like Cool G Rap. They got together with a bunch of different rappers. Who else is in there? God, it's like there's a ton of different people that they did these tracks with. So they have like the brand new Heavys playing the music. And like Heavy Rhyme Experience is the name of the track. Gangsters in it. Main Source. Yeah. What year is this, bro? 92, I think. Wow. 92, yeah. Right, right. Because I remember that first album. Oh, my God. You got to listen to some of this shit. Yeah, because by now, 92, you know what happened to me in 1992? I'm on my own dick now.

1:14:46I don't listen to nobody. I'm just Wu-Tang'd out. Oh, okay. No, I'm trying to make it. So I'm like... Yeah, oh, I get it. But, so I missed it. Oh, yeah. I actually missed a lot of things during my career, bro. I realized, like, I'm going backwards. Like, there was a point in my life, bro, I couldn't stand R &B. Really? It made me nauseous. I'm serious. Like, if I'm driving and R &B's on, I felt... I was so fucking hip-hop, bro. Because you're so concentrated. Yeah, it was weird. That makes sense, though. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, because you were on the grind. You were really trying to make it happen.

1:15:21Now I play R &B, me and my wife, we be dancing around the motherfucking house. I mean, there was a point in time where I was only into 90s hip-hop. Like, 90s hip-hop was my shit. Because that was when I was young and I was on the road a lot. And that was like my getting fired up music was like 90s hip-hop. But then I started expanding and then I got into like a lot of like old classic rock and roll and I just think it's all dependent upon your mood But there's so much different shit that you could listen to right but this you got to listen to some of this heavy rhyme experience I'm gonna put that on my yeah, that's right there play him that a Cool G rap death threat.

1:16:03This is like one of my all so in the green room We'll have to cut this out of the podcast unfortunately because we don't want to get dinged. But in the Green Room playlist, this is like one of my first beginning of the night when the comedy show starts and we're in the Green Room getting fired up, pouring a couple drinks, everybody's getting fired up, someone's rolling a blunt. This is one of my favorite songs to start the Green Room playlist. Hit me with it. This is Cool G Rap and the brand new Heavies. It's great and the gang star, Hectic, that's another one of my favorites. You know what's so cool about So I never heard it, but it immediately put me right back in Stapleton Projects, like right back in that time of me.

1:16:47Because Coogee Rap is... Love that dude. So it put me right there. Thank you. Cock blocking, one of my all-time favorite songs. Right, right. Talk Like Sex. I mean, he's so many. Ill Street Blues. Ill Street Blues, amazing. And Coogee Rap, I just think in mainstream, just doesn't get the respect he deserves from the influence that he had in the 90s. I think the artists, we gave it to them. But yeah, you're right. The public. Mainstream. There's so many people. I bring up Cool G Rap and they're like, who? And I'm like, oh, sit down. Sit down. Let me play some shit for you. And I didn't ever. He told me this years later that the G stood for genius.

1:17:25And he's a fucking genius. Even though we got the jizzle of the genius in our crew, Cool G Rap is a genius, man. I was blessed to do a couple of tracks with him in my catalog. We actually got a couple that we did together and a couple that I just produced with him and Inspector Deck and things of that nature. So that's one of the greatest blessings of the art is that I'm sure you do the same as whether you're doing comedy, whether you're doing your physicality, that you have people that you admired, and then all of a sudden they're your peers. You're collaborating. You're doing shit with them.

1:18:00Yeah, I know. It's very exciting just being able to hang out with them. We went to dinner with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery, and then they came to the comedy show, and then we were all hanging out in the green room. And everybody was like, this is the fucking coolest night of all time. We're just chilling and hanging out with Quentin Tarantino and Roger Avery at the Mothership green room. How are you going to beat that? It's hard to beat, man. Everybody the next day were like, didn't last night really happen? That was so fun. When I had a cut that was worthy to show him, our buddy Jared and my buddy Abazar, so Jared kind of owns the old Desi Arnaz studio.

1:18:48Oh, wow. He's the guy that started Red Cameras. And he has this amazing screening room. And so he said, yo, you can screen it here for Quentin. I said, all right, cool. So we finally got the date to do it. And I go there, and his plus one is Fincher. Oh, wow. Exactly. So I'm just like, oh. That's crazy. Yeah, so now I'm like, okay, whoa, okay. And I played the film to them. And once there was another great night, some great, what were we sipping on? We were sipping on some great scotch. Yeah, we got some great scotch. I don't smoke weed like that no more. So, you know, do you still smoke weed?

1:19:30What happened when you stopped? I just, I don't function good in public with weed. Who does? Who does? Okay. People think they do. Exactly, but I don't want to see that photo. I don't want to. That photo. Yeah, I don't want to be that guy no more. It's like, if I'm home, also, to be honest with you, if I smoke weed, bro, I started doing kung fu, bro. Really? Yeah, I'm either going to sit quiet and be a total... Oh, you start... Yeah, and motherfuckers like, yo, what's this? Yeah, exactly. I'll start doing shit like that. I mean, with a fucking suit on or some shit. That sounds fun. Yeah, well...

1:20:12You know, so I kind of... 2015 was when I stopped. Really? Completely? Maybe, I mean, yes, for completely, But then I said I would only smoke with two or three people in the world. One of them is Quentin Tarantino, because we watch our kung fu movies. We're not going nowhere. I smoke, if I have some weed with him, I know that I'm in a, you know, no photos is happening. You're not going to see the Zonky RZA. My other brother I smoke with, I won't say his name because I don't know if people know he smoke. I think everybody knows he smoke, but I won't say his fucking name and shit. But I only see him once a year, twice a year.

1:20:54You know what I mean? And that's really it. And even, like, I haven't smoked a blunt with Method Man in over 12 years, bro. Wow. And that's my, that was my, he's the king of smoking anyway. But that was like my, but I just, like I said, I just don't like how, it just doesn't fit my today's personality. So I'm a sipper now. I'll just sip on some, not no syrup I know what you mean A little scotch I love tequila, mezcal There's nothing wrong with all those things I think they're all tools And I think one of the things about tools Is you can misuse them And I think there's a lot of people that just live in the cloud And they just get high all the time And then they just feel like their life is out of control And then pure abstinence Becomes the only solution But it's really, you just started abusing the tool I think marijuana is an excellent tool for creativity.

1:21:51And the way I like it the most is writing. I think it's the greatest thing ever for writing. There's something that happens with just not a lot, just a little bit of weed. Just all of a sudden, bing, ideas start sparking off in your head. Then I go, I don't think that these ideas would exist without this stuff. That's one of the things that Carl Sagan said. But, Jamie, what's that famous Carl Sagan quote on cannabis? But Carl Sagan, who's obviously like one of the most famous astronomers of all time, he had and wrote that great movie Contact, that great book Contact. He had this quote about cannabis that I always like to say to people that want to say it's for dummies.

1:22:32Because it's like, no, man, there's something to it. You could look like a dummy if you abuse it just like you look like an idiot if you get so drunk that you can't walk Exactly. It's the same thing, but a little bit just a Just a little bit sometimes just fires up The illegality of cancer outrageous and impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight sensitivity and fellowship So desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world. That was one quote but there was another quote that he had about ideas that are available through cannabis that aren't available without it that his perception what and obviously here's here's a guy that I mean what better way to utilize weed than to smoke a little and stare at the fucking vastness of the cosmos and just try to with it well open up your mind to that's that's exactly what I mean for me right so so if I so it's only two things gonna happen for me I'm gonna smoke no one just be like even if I'll be in here finding fucking constellations yeah kung fu I'm doing a kung fu that's those sounds like two good things yeah I'm not knocking them but it's definitely uh my schedule it doesn't yeah that's the thing is like what is life is life about schedule is life about enjoying moments and I think there's there's something to be said for enjoying moments and there's certain things that will help enhance moments.

1:24:01And I think that's where cannabis comes into play. I think the problem with it is the problem with anything that human beings abuse, whether it's soda, chocolate, whatever, alcohol, food, people abuse things. They go too far with it. You don't use it correctly. And I think it's also part of the problem with it being illegal. One of the things about alcohol being legal is we understand what a dose is. If I give you a shot of tequila and we both clink glasses and we do a shot, we understand the dose. That is one shot of tequila. It's not confusing. Whereas we all know weed, you know, you get a hold of some of Snoop's weed or some people are just, they're dealing with botanists that are on another planet, man.

1:24:48Let me say one thing about Snoop's weed one day. When I was smoking, I did an interview with him, and that's when he had that GSC. He had the G. He had some network that he had, and we was talking about my movie, and then I was going. Everything was fine. Then, you know, he's rolling it. He was talking. Then he lit that motherfucker up and passed that shit, bro. I hit that shit, hit it back, hit it again. I'm getting the fuck out of here. Yo, I was gone. Yeah, that's Joey Diaz weed, too. Joey Diaz got that same kind of weed. I've given it to some people, and I'm like, careful, that's Joey Diaz weed.

1:25:27And they get scared, like, oh, Jesus. Yeah, you got to go home and get a pillow ready, because that shit is going to fucking—and he could do it all day. I know, that's what's crazy. Him and Method Man, out of my—and I give Burner Boy in that category as well. Those are the three most people that I've seen very weed tolerant. Like, they could be on the third one, and then you hit it, and you're like, what the fuck, yo? How the fuck are y 'all going like that? Going all day long. When Snoop was in here, he just kept rolling blunts. And I was like, how are you still awake? How do you function? but they're so accustomed to it that their tolerance is so high and that feeling of just being in the cloud all the time, they're fine with it.

1:26:18Did you find that other quote? There's multiple quotes. He had an essay, so... It was something about ideas being available that aren't... That was the big quote. Yeah, it didn't say... Understand himself? It doesn't say that in here. That's okay. I feel it. No worries. I should have found... I should have had it ready. But the point is it's like it's a tool, and you could use any tool correctly, or you could use it and abuse it incorrectly. So what's your frequency of smoking? Do you smoke once a day, once a week? I just wish it was legal. If it was legal, then people could see. It is legal in many places, isn't it?

1:26:55Yeah, but it's not federally legal. It's just got changed to Schedule 3. So Schedule 3 is the same as Tylenol with codeine. So what does that mean? Does it mean that you have to get a prescription for it? So it doesn't carry the same. The crazy thing is it's completely legal in California and it's generating tax revenue. It's completely legal in Colorado, generating tax revenue. And then people always want to point to the negative aspects of it. But like you could have negative aspects with everything else that's legal too. Think about how many people die from obesity every year, obesity-related diseases.

1:27:32Let's put that into perplexity. Put that into our AI sponsor. How many people die because of obesity-related diseases every year? So you're saying— So should we regulate food? Should we regulate the amount of food that people are able to consume? Should we stop people? Should we make cake and ring dings and ho-ho? Should we make that shit illegal? No. You have to have some personal responsibility and some self-control and an understanding of what the ramifications are. What are the dangers of overeating or eating the wrong kinds of food? That's the same with cannabis. It's the same with alcohol.

1:28:09If you think that alcohol should be illegal, well, you're going to – people are going to drink it and then you're just going to empower organized crime like they did during the prohibition. Okay. How about this? World Health Organization reports that at least 2.8 million people die each year as a result of being overweight or obese. That's fucking crazy. That's crazy, bro. Globally, it's 3 to 5 million people a year. Wait, so where's the 2.8 at? That's here? I don't know. No, here is U.S. Okay. U.S. is here. So U.S., it's 280 ,000 to 325 ,000 per year. They knocked out opioids. Knocked it out of the park.

1:28:51So we're all worried about opioids, and no one's worried about pizza. But that doesn't mean that pizza should be illegal. Yeah, you got to get a new, especially New York pizza, bro. That's the best pizza. Connecticut. New Haven. You just have to have an understanding of what to do and not to do. Don't eat pizza 24 hours a day every day. You'll die. Don't eat a pound of salt. You eat a pound of salt, you'll be dead. Wasn't there a documentary with a guy? I'm not talking about that. Super Size Me. Yeah. What was he eating every day? He was eating McDonald's. Yeah, all day, every day for every meal.

1:29:29And that was like 30 days before the Grim Reaper started knocking at the door? Yeah, he wasn't doing well. He had all sorts of liver problems. Didn't McDonald's just release some subscription where you get like, it's like$52 a month and you can eat as much as you want? Holy shit. I think they just did that today. What's that look, Jerry? What's that face? That doesn't make any sense. I know, it doesn't make any sense. $52. I think they just did that today. I saw it on my Google News alert this morning. Did that make sense? No. It doesn't make sense unless they're limiting the amount of meals that you can have in a day.

1:30:04But if you have a subscription, say if you have a McDonald's subscription and it's$52 a month and that's all you eat, you could live off of$52 a month easy. Well, not according to that documentary. No. That's two months. You're out of here. Well, what if you only ate their salads and you only ate their beef patties without any bread? You'd probably be better off. You'd be better off. It'll probably be okay. But even their beef probably has like fillers in it and shit. I'm still living a vegan lifestyle. Still? Yeah. What do you get mostly for your protein? Mostly beans. I probably do consume a little bit too much soy, I think, because I do eat tofu.

1:30:45Shout out to our friend CK. Hey, in the building. Oh, yeah, he bought in. Yeah. I can't wait to eat something. Wuchow. Wuchow. Rules. Yes. He bought us lunch, which we will eat after we finish this. It's a phenomenal Chinese restaurant here in Austin. Phenomenal. You know what he got that I realized? What? He has those Sichuan peppers. Oh, yeah. That shit is cracked, bro. They kick. Yeah, they kick. They make my bald head sweats. Yes, that's that. They start dripping down to my eyebrows. Exactly. I'm sorry. What were we looking up again, Jamie? It's McDonald's Unlimited. Oh, yeah. Did you find it?

1:31:18Is it fake? Well, the only places that it pops up are one Instagram post. It was in my Google News feed. People are reporting it, but it seems to be only based off of a photo, which is most likely AI. Oh, yeah,$54 a month. This photo is going around, but there's no links to McDonald's isn't saying it. There's no press release about it. Oh, so it's bullshit. It's bullshit. Because I was thinking, like, how could they afford? Now, also I would say they do do test stuff, and it is claiming it's a pilot program being tested somewhere. So potentially they're trying something out somewhere. Somewhere.

1:32:00But, again, I don't see any reporting of it. Unlimited meals is a weird—if you're going to limit it, you can't say unlimited. Because if you don't—if it's unlimited, then you could just feed your whole family for$54 a month. Right. You could take one, hey, go back in. Yeah. Well, you could just say unlimited. I like to eat seven Big Macs. Give me seven Big Macs, seven orders of fries, seven sodas, and then you're feeding everybody for$54 a month. That's crazy. Does McDonald's own Chipotle? I don't know. Do they own Chipotle? I'm bringing up Chipotle because I got Chipotle. I did a campaign with them, and they gave me a card, lifelong card.

1:32:41I could eat at Chipotle for free for the rest of my life. Really? That's part of the campaign? No, this was like the gift. For you, yeah. I didn't even know that that was a thing. And I could have 10 people with 24-hour notice. And I think I could do a catered event at least once a month. Wow. For the rest of my life. That's a pretty good deal. That is a real thing. Really? That's like a celebrity gold card thing they offer. Oh, nice. Some people have gotten their hands on it through different ways. Like Travis Barker has one here. Interesting. I got one. Well, Travis, he's a vegan, too. Yeah, I'm a vegan, too.

1:33:20So he's eating just the bean burritos and stuff? Oh, the sofritos. They got some shit called sofrito. What is that? Hopefully there's no chicken in there. No, I don't think there's no chicken. I think it's like a vegan meat. So most of your protein is from what? Is it from tofu, beans? Chickpeas. I love chickpeas. Chickpeas. Lentils, I'm crazy for lentils. My wife would throw a pot of lentils on. P-protein is really good. P-protein. Hemp protein is really good. Hemp is good. Hemp protein is, I think it's one of the few plant-based proteins that contains all the amino acids. And it's very bioavailable, too.

1:33:59Pumpkin seeds, bro. Pumpkin seeds. Pumpkin seeds. Really? Yeah, look up pumpkin seeds, bro. Pumpkin seeds probably have the most best protein ever. Pumpkin seeds. They taste good, too. I keep them in my car, bro. When they're roasted? Yeah, mostly pumpkin seeds. A little salt on them. Trust me, every time I get in the whip, I got pumpkin seeds. Wow. What does it say about the... They reduce the risk of cancer and improve bowel and prostate health. Pumpkin seeds, bro. That's it. Rich in protein, fiber, unsaturated fats, and must-have minerals. Pepitas are a great healthy snacking option. All right.

1:34:38Yeah, pumpkin seeds are delicious. Yeah, so you get those, you get some chickpeas. Isn't it weird that people, when they make their fucking jack-o'-lanterns, they scoop that shit out and throw it away? Yeah, give it to me. It's like the healthiest part of the pumpkin. That's weird. It's weird what we throw away. We're just so used to waste. So used to having an abundance of food that we're not concentrating on this part of the plant that has the most protein in the plant. Probably the most nutritious part of the pumpkin. Well, you know, my buddy was here yesterday. He don't throw away too much of that meat for that Texas barbecue, you guys.

1:35:17No. God, this motherfucking boy. No, they don't fuck around. Yo, there was a 15-minute wait line around the corner of 200 people. Where were you at? Which place? It was, I don't know the name of it. Terry Black's? I don't know because I just drove. My man Abazone went there and said, you know, he couldn't come out to Texas and not get some Texas barbecue. I'm a vegan, what am I gonna do? I only have some good beans and macaroni and a bunch of different stuff that you can get there. Potato salad. Yeah, well potato salad I gotta watch out for. Oh that's right, it's got mayonnaise and milk and eggs.

1:35:53Yeah, you've been a vegan since the 90s, right? Yeah. Well no, I started vegetarian in the 90s and by the time I got to 2000 I started. You don't fuck with eggs at all? No, I got rid of the eggs. No? Yeah. The eggs, what got me off the fucking eggs, bro? I think my personality got me off the eggs. Personality? Why is that? I don't know. You know what I mean? It's like, I'm like, what's the word? I could be scornful. Is that the word? Like when you like, I don't know. Like a Felix Unger type of shit. You ever watch Felix Unger? Odd Couple? Yeah. Like you don't want pits in his orange juice or some shit.

1:36:35So eggs, like one day, it's just the slime of the egg. Yeah, just cook it. Yeah, but it didn't got that little white shit in it, bro. I'm just saying. It's so good for you. And if you have your own chickens, like I have my own chickens, eggs are karma-free protein. They're like pets that give you free protein. Right, right. Because they're laying an egg that will never be a chicken because it's not fertilized. Exactly. So it's just free protein. Right. And they lay them every day, basically, or close to it. And you feed them, and they run around the backyard, and they pick bugs and grass. Right.

1:37:14What do you feed them? Chicken food. You know, you buy chicken feed, and we also feed them some table scraps and vegetables and different things. But they're carnivores, man, which is really wild. Like, you see them eat a mouse. It's crazy. A what? They tear mice. You've never seen a chicken eat a mouse? I've never seen the chicken eat a mouse. Chickens are straight-up dinosaurs. There's some great videos of chickens around a cat and a cat's playing with a mouse and the chicken just runs up on the cat and steals the mouse from him and tears it apart. I didn't see that, yeah. I fed a chicken that I, well, one chicken stole the mouse, but this is what happened.

1:37:49So in my house in California, we used to have a wrought iron fence and we replaced it with a glass fence. Unfortunately, hawks couldn't tell that it was a glass fence and we lost a few hawks. Boom. And they slammed into it headfirst and got KO'd. We lost like two hawks died. It was really sad. But one of them survived. And my family, my wife and my daughters, took the hawk and put it in like a large cardboard box. It couldn't fly. And they had to feed it over the weekend because the rescue shelter couldn't take it over the weekend. We had to bring it in on Monday. And so they go, well, what are hawks?

1:38:24How do you feed it? We went to the store and the pet store. And the pet food store had these things called pinkies. And what they are is like little baby mice. And so you put these little baby mice in with the hawk. And the hawk ate most of them, but one of them lived. One of them the hawk didn't eat it. The hawk had enough pinkies. It ate enough. So my daughters were like, I want to keep that one alive. I'm like, it's not going to live. It doesn't have the milk. It doesn't have its mother. It hasn't been weaned. It's going to die. And I said, let me just feed it to the chickens. I didn't even know if they were going to eat it.

1:38:55I didn't know what was going to happen. I put that little mouse down in the cage. and that chicken just ran up and snatched it and they all stole it away. Watch this cat. This cat's fucking with this mouse. The cats, you think cats are ruthless. Yeah, he's playing with this motherfucker. But he's playing with it. He wants to watch it hop away and then the chicken gets annoyed after a while and the chicken's like, give me that shit, bitch. And when the chicken runs up on the mouse, watch this, instantaneously, as soon as the chicken realizes this, fuck out of here. Give me that shit, bitch. And just starts tearing it apart.

1:39:26Holy shit. Chickens aren't into playing with things at all. They just ripped it to shreds. This is dinner. Yeah, just shaking it and mangling it. I'm out of here. They were all chasing each other around the chicken coop where this one chicken had the mouse in its mouth, and they were all trying to steal it from her mouth. Oh, they wanted it more than anything. That's crazy. Because they don't act like that with chicken food at all. Right, right. They wanted some meat, bro. Yeah, or dried worms. That's one of them. Like worm meal, you buy these boxes of dried, and you shake it, and they come running, and you'll leave that out for them.

1:39:58They love that. Okay, so now your chickens, you got your own. How many? I have 15. 15 chickens. So you're getting what? A bunch of eggs. Probably at least 10 eggs every day. Wow. Because they don't always lay them every day. Of course, of course. But it's free protein, and it's healthy for you. You know exactly where it came from. There's no hormones, no pesticides, no herbicides, no nothing. Let me interrupt our podcast for a moment. Okay. This is the RZA. I'm sitting here with Joe Rogan. I have a new film coming out, May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Sean McIntyre and Paris Jackson, produced by Quentin Tarantino, in theaters everywhere, May 1st.

1:40:37And that's only a couple days from now. Today is the 27th, so it's this Friday, May 1st. This Friday. There it is, One Spoon of Chocolate. Because One Spoon of Chocolate can do what? Change a whole glass of milk. Change the whole glass of milk. Anyway, eggs. is good for you. They're really good for you, healthy, and karma-free. You don't have to worry about anything suffering. Right. And the only thing that I don't complain about as a vegan, and I don't cook with it or use it, but if some butter slipped on my shit, I'm not going to flip that. Yeah, you shouldn't because it's just milk that comes out of a cow.

1:41:15It doesn't, you know, especially if you get it from an organic farm. It's no big deal. Right. So that's the only thing that, you know, I don't, you know, I don't, I use all that plant-based butter, and they got this thing called, well, now Country Crock got plant-based avocado oil butter. Really? Yeah. How the fuck do they make that? That's the problem with all that stuff that's like fake meat and fake this is that it's really processed. Right. You know, I think if you want to eat vegetables and vegetarian diet, like, the way to do it is the way the Indians do it. It was like Indian food from India.

1:41:54There's a lot of amazing Indian vegetarian food. I stay in an Indian restaurant. Oh, so good. So spicy and so delicious. And they've been cooking just vegetarian dishes for probably thousands of years. Cleans you right out. Oh, that's true. It opens up the gates. Bama-lama. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Don't have a flight. Exactly. If you do, get a seat in the back. Yeah. Yeah, but there was a place that I used to live near, near my old house in California, that was in an Indian neighborhood. And there was this Indian restaurant that was like a cafeteria style where you just go and point. I didn't even know what the fuck the names of these things were.

1:42:36They had photos of whatever it was. You wanted to add that. But it was all in Indian, and I would just point it. And it was all, everyone who ate there was Indian. Right. It was very few regular, I mean, no white people, no African Americans. It was all Indians. Wait, I feel like I might have fucking been there, bro. In the valley. It's in the valley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not a restaurant. No, it's like a store in the back of the store. You've been to that place. And you can buy some fucking spices of your own. Yes, yes. God, I wish I remembered the name of the place because the spices were awesome, too.

1:43:05It was a great place. And in the back, they had this cafeteria style. It was all Indian people. Yep, yep. Phenomenal. Phenomenal restaurant. I'm the kind of guy that do that, too. I'll go to the Asian market and shit. I'll go, fuck. I know that I'm getting a bunch of good shit. Oh, that's it. India Sweets and Spices. Damn, Jamie's a wizard. Nice. Where is that joint? Canoga Park. That's it. Canoga Park. That's exactly it. That's the spot. That's not far from our old office. Oh, that's real close to where my old studio was, too. And I still got the same office, though, right over there. Yo, bro.

1:43:42Your old studio, right? Yeah. You know what happened to it, right? No. Bro, that whole shit, they tore that shit. They did? It's now the L.A. Rams training facility. Oh, wow. Do you remember that AMC? Yeah. Bro. Really? Tore it down, bro. They building some other shit there. Wow. That's crazy. That is crazy. Because back, that's for the fans. I could see Joe's office from my window, his studio from my window back in those days and shit. Wow. But now, all that is the L.A. Rams training facility. So I watched the Rams train and shit from my window. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, right? That neighborhood's very interesting.

1:44:23There's a lot of cool stuff. There's a phenomenal Mexican spot down there. What is it called? The Big Burrito? That's what it's called, right? I think that's it. There's this phenomenal Mexican joint. And you go in there, it's all like Mexican soap operas playing. Everybody speaks Spanish. No one there is speaking English. And the food is sensational. Yeah, Big Burrito. That's it. El Big Burrito. El Big Burrito. That place fucking rules. When I lived there, I didn't tell people about it because I didn't want to blow up the spot. I wanted to be able to go in there. Right, right. I would never bring it up on the podcast.

1:44:58And they've reached out to me thanking me because we've brought it up a few times. But that place fucking rules. You want to get like a legit burrito, legit quesadilla, legit tacos, like lengua tacos, like cow tacos. I know you don't eat meat, but if you did. And even their bean burritos are fucking phenomenal. It's just like real, legit, spicy Mexican food. Well, to me, it's all about the sauce. If you got good salsa, you know what I mean? Yeah, oh, that place is so good. There's those places that you find in L.A. that are real hard to find in Texas. Texas, you get a lot of Tex-Mex, whereas in L.A.

1:45:37you get straight Mexican. Let's talk about that for a moment because I actually thought about that. Because New York, I mean, now it's okay. But New York, we, for years, bro, we didn't have good Mexican food, bro. Did you now? Yeah, because now it's been some more brothers came and there's some pocket communities. But trust me, in New York, bro, I thought I was eating Mexican food until I went to California. Yeah. And I was like, okay. San Diego has some of the absolute best Mexican food in the world. But I find Texas and New Mexico, like I find this part of the country as well having a lot of good flavors.

1:46:23But I'm interested, how do you, like, if you were to say from your travels, the best Mexican food, is it California? Is it the Midwest? What would you say? Well, there's really good Mexican food in Texas, but you got to seek it out. whereas there's a lot of Tex-Mex here, which is also really good, but you could tell it's not straight Mexican. You know what I mean? It's like a fusion. And in California, you don't have any of that. In California, it's just Mexican, and there's so many great Mexican restaurants in California. San Diego is filled with them, but LA is filled with them too. But it's spots like that, like the Big Burrito, where you go to a place like that, you walk in, you're like, oh, my God, I'm home.

1:47:03because it's like the smells and then you see the spanish soap operas playing like oh okay this is legit yeah i was driving down the street uh last night and shit and um i just found this really funny right so i'm driving down the street i mean i'm not driving personally i don't drive but the car you don't drive at all i don't drive i've been really since 2012 i've been driving a car how come i just i just let go know what happened bro what happened i was in china um you don't want to driving China. Well, I gotta be honest, like, we was doing a film there, and every time, every morning that I would go to work, it almost, like, every day, it almost happened.

1:47:46Like, it almost like, that's... Almost a car accident. Yeah, every day, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, and even like, my brother, Russell Crowe, like, we'll get to set on the morning. I love that, dude. And, yo, he'll say the same thing like, yo, Bobby, like, I'll be, yeah, bro. we made it right but so so then when i came home i just stopped driving bro you just didn't want to be a part of it anymore nope i haven't drove since since then have you ever fucked with any of those waymos you ever gotten any no of those things you no no no but i do have a tesla that will drive me have you did it yeah i've had to drive me all the way home yeah it's crazy yeah How do you feel, though?

1:48:30Uncomfortable. I don't like it. I like driving. I do. I enjoy driving. But with my Tesla, I'll put an address, like, say, if I want to go to a restaurant or something like that, and go doo-doo, and it'll drive me. It'll stop at stop signs and stoplights. It'll change lanes if there's anything in the way. It hits the blinkers to change lanes. It turns. It does everything. Right. I mean, it literally can drive you from point A to—do you ever fuck with it, Jamie? Do you ever use it? I just found out through the update that I haven't been using full self-driving. I've been using whatever was right before that, which to me I thought was the exact same.

1:49:07It drives itself too. What's the difference? I don't know. Because it said that it gave me an option to turn it on. I thought I was, what? Hold on. What am I doing then? Oh, that's weird. Because it still drives itself. I don't remember because I turned, I got my, it's a part of a subscription, right? Isn't it? And that's when I was like, wait, I thought I had it. Yeah. Well, whatever. Whatever it's been doing. Whatever it is, I definitely have it. What do you mean it's part of a subscription? You mean it ain't automatic? I think so. I think you pay more for it. I'm not sure. I don't want to talk out of turn.

1:49:41I also didn't understand it either, but yeah, I think so. I think you pay for it because I think it's more complex. It's using a bunch of different, I don't know, I'm making things up. But I do know it works. I saw the Waymo on the way here to you. And it was right beside us. I looked in there. And I was like, yo, bro, why have a steering wheel with the old school fucking... With a gear changer? If nobody gonna drive this shit. Well, in case it breaks. And then if somehow, maybe there's an override where you could just drive it. Yeah, but still, that's the grandma thing, bro. The shifter on the column?

1:50:20Yeah. It's like, we in the future. there shouldn't be no steering wheel like that my Cadillac has that my Cadillac shifts on the column like that that's for the what? an Escalade? yeah does it? putting drive like that I thought the shit was right here uh uh I got my shit right here pretty sure that might be for your lights or shit Cadillac Escalade? no I'm pretty sure okay I mean I have a bunch of cars I don't drive I don't even know I do not drive we're gonna put a studio in at the racetrack at Circuit of the Americas I'm gonna take you around the racetrack I'm going to put you in a car. You're going to drive around a racetrack.

1:50:57Oh, wait. I don't know why. Yeah. Not the new one. Yeah, it says 2023. No, 2026 Escalade V.

1:51:12Escalade. Gearship. Yeah, but it doesn't. That's not how it works. I'm 90 % sure. There it is. Right there on the column. See it? Right there. That's how it is. That's what mine looks like. Okay. See that little... They put it back up there. Yeah, they put it back up there. But it was down there. Because it clears all the room on your console. Right, for cups and all that stuff. Yeah, that's where mine is. I love that thing. So anyway, I'm coming... Well, I'm going to escalate yesterday, right? I don't know where the gear shit was at. But I got the window down getting some of this beautiful Austin air.

1:51:45And a truck drives up beside me playing this Spanish song. He's blasting this shit. Dun, dun, dun, dun. the shit sound cool like a motherfucker, right? I'm like, yo, what is this shit? So I shazam it. So I shazam it, and then I get the song, right? Right. And then I start playing it in my car, and the truck keeps going on. But then we're still driving slow. Then I can see the car beside me. They shazammed it. You know what I mean? I was like, wait a minute. That doesn't happen. I mean, that's what we need again. Yeah. Like where somebody's just playing some fucking music. You never heard the song before.

1:52:28You like it. Yes. You got it. You know what I mean? I love Shazam. I got two Spanish songs now in my joint that is part of my new playlist, yo. They just got from listening to people's cars. Yeah, just driving by like, yo, hold on, that shit sounds dope. Yeah, that's a new thing, right? Because we don't have radio as much anymore. there's not a lot of people listening to the radio. A lot of times you're getting new songs. Oftentimes I'll be at dinner someplace and they'll be playing music. I'll go, ooh, what is this? And I'll put my phone up in the air and try to catch it. That's dope. That's one of the greatest things about technology to me because it's that ability to know.

1:53:11You can know now if you want to know. You don't got to wait to know. You know what, motherfucker? Every time you get a thought here that we're not too sure about, he could hit that button and give us a reference. I know. Sometimes we leave a podcast and I'm like, maybe we should have looked that one up because it turns out that shit's not true. Well, I have beaten Google a few times now. You've won? You've beat Google? Google's a little deceptive, I think. But if you use AI, like we use perplexity, it searches for the whole internet. It doesn't just use whatever Google. The problem with Google, not that it's a problem but these are curated searches so like say here's a perfect example say if you want to find a Mexican restaurant and you use Google what Google's going to do is some people are paying so that their restaurant gets to the top of the search list that's a little bit of a problem because that might not be the best restaurant that might just be a restaurant that paid Google whereas if you go to like perplexity and say in terms of like restaurant critics what is the favorite authentic authentic Mexican restaurant in Austin and it'll tell you right it'll say these people believe that this is it and there's no curation yet right I mean what my wife is actually we're talking about this today like one day they're gonna fuck that up too and people are gonna pay to get that to it.

1:54:44But right now, they haven't done that. So right now, you could find spots, like cool spots, that haven't, you know, with no curation. Exactly. And let's check. Let's do a test real quick. Okay. Okay. So there's 196 ,940 ,000 square miles on the planet, right? Whoa. There's 63 ,360 inches, right? in the mile, because it's 5 ,280 feet in the mile. So I'm going to start over. There's 196 ,940 ,000 square miles. In the country? On the planet? On the planet, okay. Okay. For one mile, there's 5 ,280 feet. Okay. And of course, there's 12 inches in the feet, so you multiply that by 12, you'll get 63 ,360 inches.

1:55:35I want perplexity to tell me how many square inches on the planet. Ooh. Let's see what you get. Boy, that number's got to be bananas. I guarantee you we're going to look at a long fucking number. A lot of zeros. That's a good question. That is a good question. Dun, dun, dun. Does it even have an answer? It's probably confused. He's like, hold on, what the fuck are you talking about? You're perplexing me. It's like, what are you doing? We perplexed perplexity. There you go. Okay. Eight times 10 to the 17 square inches on Earth's surface. What does that look like in a raw number? Ask it what it looks like in a raw number.

1:56:33Eight was 17. 17 zeros? Pretty much. 10 to the 17th? That's what that is? 17 zeros? So basically, it took the 6-3-3-6-0, and they squared it. Uh-huh. And that's how they got to there. Wow. But it didn't give us no fucking direct answer, right? Well, it did, but it did it with 10 to the 17th. Okay, so let's do this now. Type that out. Type that number out and divide it by four. Okay. Let's see. Type it out. I'm going to see what this looks like. This must look bananas. Whoa.

1:57:16And now divide it by four. Before you do that, can you ask it? How would you say that? I was trying to figure it out. It's not a trillion. It's not a quadrillion. What is that? It's a quintillion. Is it a quintillion? This is billion. Right? Yeah. This is trillion. So it's a quadrillion? Wait, no. Just to ask it, how would you say that, please? How would you say that?

1:57:54800 quadrillion square inches. Wow. Remember when you were a kid, you'd think that was a fake word? Yeah. Bro, I want a quadrillion money. Would you believe that the Earth weighs, the atmosphere weighs 15 quintillion tons? Just the atmosphere? Yeah, just the atmosphere. Just the gases. The planet Earth weighs six sextillion. Kanye said the wildest shit on my podcast once. He goes, how much does the Earth cost? Right? And at the time, I was like, what? And then I thought about it. I was like, oh, shit. Like property is valuable. You can own property. Right. Right? Like everybody kind of, everything is owned.

1:58:37Like how much is the earth? That's a big, that's a, well, you could get the number there too because, well, if you count the minerals. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you got to hold another hustle. And then there's the ocean. And the ocean. The ocean. And the fish. Yeah, right. And then all the animals. Wow. And then it has to appreciate day by day. Why don't I put that into perplexity? If you were going to sell the earth, how much would it be worth? Including everything on it. That's a mind fucking half. Economists usually estimate the world's real estate, all land plus the buildings on it, a few hundred trillion U.S.

1:59:18dollars, not counting oceans, polar ice, or unowned space. That sounds like a bargain. Yeah. A few hundred trillion, that's it? Nah. Okay, let's say, let's ask, what is the worth of the earth, all its property, all its minerals, animals, and objects? That's a crazy question. That's a crazy question. Yeah, it's a good one, though. Yeah, everything on earth, every watch, every diamond ring, every hat. One dollar. Every piece of art. Well, I mean, the question I typed in was property and lands. Right. What is the value of everything on earth? I like what you said. Every electronic value of everything on earth, including animals, minerals, property, and objects.

2:00:25Oh, boy. I wonder how it's going to figure this out. I bet it will. It's going to look off of people who have written. It's going to freak out. It's going to blow a gasket. It's not figuring it out. There's no precise number. Oh, somewhere in the quadrillions to sextillions of U.S. dollars, depending on what you count and how you value it. It says plausible attempts to add it up. Right. There's no single agreed-upon price tag for everything on Earth, but this is the answer to Kanye's question. but you know what though now look at that no hold on we just learned something there it said quadrillion to what sextillions now ask how much does the planet earth weigh that's why i mean i already did that but we we had we've passed it before i could show you atmosphere weighs 12 quintillion pounds yeah in total yeah i said 15 so i was off Okay, I forgot that number.

2:01:19But ask how much does the planet Earth weigh? Whoa. How much does the entire Earth weigh?

2:01:34Let's guess. No, don't do the atmosphere. We're just trying to get the value. I want to see if it gives you. I mean, the atmosphere should already be included. That's why I think it won't include it.

2:01:53So basically. What is that word? What is that in a word? Ask that what that is, that 13. Yeah, tell him, put it in pounds, not kilograms. Because that's not even seven, that's eight. What does that mean? Right, but what does that, ask it to say that.

2:02:12Can you say that? Yeah, what does it mean? How do you say it? Septillion. Thirteen septillion pounds. That doesn't sound impressive. No. No. It doesn't. It sounds like a couple lizards. I believe it's wrong, bro. Why? Because when you take the square mouse, the circumference, right? And you multiply, there's a formula to get that weight. It doesn't come out to that. What does it come out to? Six sextillion. Six followed by 21 zeros. This is more. This was three more zeros on top of that. Yeah, but it sounds good. but if you take the formula of a sphere, of the mass, this number is closer. But does it take into account the density of the inner earth?

2:03:13Because I think that's probably where a lot of the weight is coming from, right? The density of the inner earth is immense. Yeah, I mean... It's all compressed. Yeah, it's compressed energy. If it's hollow. It could be hollow. If it's hollow. Okay, hold on. We got to take a sponsor break. This is the RZA live on the Joe Rogan podcast. Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new movie coming out. May 1st. May 1st. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate, starring Shamik Moore, Paris Jackson, Blair Underwood. It follows an ex-military convict who comes home and trying to find a better life for himself, ends up in a small town where everything goes fucking bananas.

2:03:55in theaters everywhere. May 1st. When is it going to be available on streaming? I don't know. Soon, right? How do you usually do that? Well, to be honest, I'm like... Like Iron Fist was... What year was that out? That was 2011, 2012. And it was a different atmosphere back then, right? Pre-COVID. COVID changed a lot of movie-going habits, right? Changed everything, yeah. I want the movie-going experience to come back, though. Yeah, I do too. Yeah. I mean, there's something about going to see a great movie with a bunch of people, that's a real experience. Yeah, I think I'm so, I mean, my art, my career is based on sneaking into a fucking movie theater and watching three Kung Fu movies.

2:04:37Yeah. So I'm a big into cinema. I think what we did, so this particular film is actually coming through my own distribution company called 36 Cinema. And I think we did a deal with the theaters that they can have at least 30 days. a lot of people were doing 17 days in the theaters or 21 days and cinema is suffering because of that because why would go to the theater if I got it at home you know I mean and the home is of course a great place to watch a movie but when you making a movie right you're making it for the theater we haven't TV is made for home but cinema is made for cinema like we haven't um what can I say?

2:05:18Like the sound, the color, the framing. Like I use anamorphic lenses. What does that mean? Anamorphic, like the lenses of the 50s where you fucking get this whole fucking scope. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, you can watch it on your phone. What is the difference with an anamorphic lens and a regular lens? A regular lens would be the way it bends the light in all reality. So like you could have like 16.9. Okay, see, so that's most lenses are spherical now. That's that, right? Which is cool. Right? But look at anamorphic. It's the way it controls the light, the way the subject is happening.

2:05:56And so it kind of gives you more of a cinematic feel. Well, your focus, it's certainly like a little more blurry in the background. Yep. Yeah, okay. And it kind of, it's the way it's compressing that light differently. And so you, with this lens, do you do everything on film or is it digital? I actually shot this on digital. So, yeah. So, I mean, I'm in a digital age. So I did shoot digital. But I did, we did make 35 millimeter prints of the movie. So if you're in California and you go to the theater called The Vista. Have you ever been to The Vista? No. Where's that? I think it's in Los Feliz or some shit like that.

2:06:39Okay. I'm bad at my Hollywood neighborhoods. I'm like, I'm still a New Yorker. Right, I get it. But the Vista Theater will show the film on 35mm for like two weeks. It'll be there starting May 1st. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, if you want to see. And 35mm, oh, there you go, the Vista. I love this guy. Hey, Jamie. Jamie's the best. His trigger finger is a motherfucker. Oh, he's a goat. Well, he's psychic. He knows what you're talking about before you do. Exactly. He's like, the Vista. Duh? Yeah. So that's the Vista. So what is the difference, like, the way it looks to you when you see it on 35mm versus digital?

2:07:16Well, I think the 35mm kind of makes the colors a little more richer and darker, like kind of how the 70s films look and even up to the 80s. The digital one, because I've watched my film on both formats, the digital is more brighter and actually more familiar now to us. Right. We're accustomed to it. We're accustomed to it. But I played it on April 22nd, in fact I want to talk about that a little bit if you don't mind. But on April 22nd we had our premiere in California on 35mm. And it was my first time seeing it on 35mm. And it felt very nostalgic. I felt like I was back. It felt like a movie only.

2:08:06Not like a movie and a TV show or a movie. It felt only like a movie, only a movie experience, the flickering. When you're doing 35mm, you need a real camera. So the light is going from this camera, from this one. Then they got to switch the wheel from this, from this. And it's like it's a certain thing that's happening, a certain pacing, a certain granular thing that's happening that for me, for my film, it felt almost like an honor to watch it like that. Oh, that's cool. I want to make a—so check this out, bro. So we talked about this last time I was here, but April 22nd, right, that was the day that I was acquitted from a crime and started my life over.

2:08:57I was facing eight years. April 22nd, that's back in 1992, okay? As you can see, a year later, I'm a platinum producer. But before that, I was heading to hell. April 22nd, sevendipitously, is the day that my film premieres on 35mm at the Vista Theater in Hollywood, April 22nd. But you've seen the opening of the film as well. So when my character gets out of jail, he marks on the calendar, the day he gets out, April 22nd. It's special. This is a special film. It's special. It's for my life, I'm saying. For me, it's like... Oh, that's cool. And it was my buddy Shavo from System of a Down birthday.

2:09:47We actually celebrate April 22nd every year because it wasn't my birthday, but it was the birth of the RZA because before that, I was known as Prince Rakeem. But after that, acquitting and my mother telling me, you know, you got a second chance. I was like, exit Prince Rakeem, enter the RZA. Nice. That's amazing. Yeah. So when you were talking about the streaming thing, so do you, is that something that's negotiated beforehand? Like it'll be in the theaters for X amount of time? Or do you, once it's in the theater, do you then, like depending on how well it does in the theater, is that how you negotiate a streaming deal?

2:10:25Or how does it work? No, it works. No, it works. It's usually negotiated ahead of time. Okay. or the streamers kind of dictate what's going to happen. So since we had this on our own company, we had a chance to make the rules ourselves. So I didn't make a streaming deal, but I made the theatrical deal first, and I gave the theaters 30 days first. And so now my streamer, he would go, my streaming distribution, which is a Samuel Goodwin, they would go and, I hope I pronounced that right, bro. I could fuck a word up sometime.

2:11:01I think that's the right word. Okay. Okay. What up, Peter? I'm the wrong guy to ask, though. Yeah, I can fuck a word up. But anyway, so, yeah, he'll solicit to streamers, but we wanted a 30-day cinema experience. And in the future, I'm going to travel 45 days, bro. Remember when we was kids, bro, Star Wars was in the theaters three times before you had a chance to see it come home. Yeah. And what did you do? You went back to the theater. Yeah. Because the lights, the sound, the vibe of what you're creating, I make it for the theater. I got to be honest with you. I make film for the theater. When my other film came out during the pandemic, Cutthroat City, since there was a pandemic, you know, even though my contract said it should be in theaters, the pandemic of it kind of made it a force majeure, like maybe not in theaters.

2:11:58But my producer, Michael Mendelsohn, who is a good guy, he said, I didn't make this shit for no streaming, bro. I shot my shit in anamorphic lenses. I got all the sound. I made it for the theaters. He was like, yeah, but the theaters ain't nothing popping, bro. Nobody's going to the theaters. I was like, well, I don't know. Then hold it. I can't hold it, bro. It's business. But he still no, but he still say, OK, I'm a picture on 200 screens and you could go and get to, you know, and he did it. You know what I mean? So all my films has always go to the cinema first. And if I have my way, every film I make will always start at a cinema.

2:12:43Have you ever tried using those? What are the what's the Apple one, Jamie? The those Apple AR goggles. Yeah, I heard watching movies on those. phenomenal yes okay but you have to also design it for that too oh really yeah I mean to get the full experience because come on you're going like this and some there's been some artists who have been able to create stuff for that it's almost like I mean I won't say it's like the sphere you have you been to the sphere yes oh but only for a fight right no they had a UFC there it was amazing I love it there but Darren Aronofsky had did a movie made directly for the In fact, there's another movie they're doing.

2:13:24They're doing another movie right now that they showed me a clip of that's going to be made in the sphere. And it's actually very sports based. So it's crazy. And of course, The Wizard of Oz. I heard that's nuts. Yeah, I've seen that there. You saw The Wizard of Oz? I heard there's all sorts of crazy new effects and they added a bunch of stuff to the movie. It's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. And it's fucking... But the sphere is amazing anyway, right? It's an incredible experience. This is a new thing AMC has just shown recently and announced called Screen X. It's 270 degrees. It's going to surround the audience in some way.

2:13:57Well, that's how you get people to go back to the movie theater. Give them something like this where they're like, what? It's kind of like recut, so it might be a fun way to go back and maybe see a movie you really like. Oh, like see Avatar in that? Or Alien? They got the Matrix like that now. You know, that's that Cosm. That's kind of like the fear thing. This just sort of is announced It's only in two cities right now There's a place I know there's a place in Dallas Where they show UFC fights Yeah, that's Cosm Yeah, that's where the Matrix thing That's nuts, man I love that he got the asses Yeah He's a genius But with the place in Dallas The Cosm place Like you're seated here And the screen is like 60 feet tall And it's right in front of you And you're watching the fights As if This is the Matrix Oh, so this is The Matrix.

2:14:46Yeah, they worked with the film company to sort of remake it and add extra stuff. Oh, wow. There's also a new screen I just saw. I think it's going to be in Clearwater, Florida. It's going to be the world's biggest screen. See if you can show. I'll show you the fight thing. Yeah, show me fight scenes. Like people were watching the fights there. I was like, okay, that might actually be better than being there live. Like look how crazy the size of the screen is. Right. Like, look who you're watching. Like, you're sitting right there. I mean, that fight is gigantic. It's huge. Because the thing about going to see the fights live, look at how big that is.

2:15:27You fall away. Yeah, show that again. Like, look at that. Look how nuts that is. Right. That is nuts. You don't get to see these camera angles at home either, which is awesome. Not like that. Yeah. Not like that. I love this because this is giving me hope, bro. Like, everything you just showed me is giving me hope for cinema. Right. And this is like cheaper than buying tickets. And this is better than any ticket you could ever buy for the fights. Like better than anything. Better than my seat. And I'm sitting cage side. How much a ticket like this would cost? That's a good question. They do sell tickets for this.

2:15:59I don't know. Click on that one. May 9th. How much does that cost? $100. $40. $100. If you want to sit prior real close, you have$20 to get inside. Okay. General Emission is$20. bucks what is the front row where's the screen displays right there what are those like right there where it says two well like 67 how much 167 that's a that's a bargain compared to how much it would cost if you actually went to see the fight nice and it's probably a better experience plus you get commentary you get to hear everything and you're right there and then it's not just like being at home which is great because there's a bunch of people you're experiencing with so it adds to the excitement and the energy.

2:16:43That's the knock I was going to say with the Vision Pro is it's still to right now, you're by yourself. By yourself. Which is kind of, for me, I'm a single guy in my apartment with a dog, perfect. But if you're at home with anybody, you're like, well, I can watch it. I don't have five of these. Catch up to me later. Could you watch it with a chick where you hold hands? You both have Vision Pro and you both start at the same time? Three, two, one, go. That's funny. Yeah, that's me and my wife on the plane. Oh, you do that? Even on the way here, bro, where we watch, we watch, oh, Sebastian. How do you say Sebastian?

2:17:20The last name is he's a... Maniscalco. Yeah, thank you, bro. Oh, a comedian. Yeah, yeah. We watch him. He's funny. Hilarious. He's a funny motherfucker, bro. Very funny. And so, yeah, so we do that every time, though. But we watch him on the way. So she wouldn't want to see me laughing, and she ain't laughing yet. So we hit the button at the same time. and that guy's crazy, y 'all. He's funny. Yeah, that's the thing. They should have like simultaneous viewing option. Are you going to watch it with someone else? Would you like to view it simultaneously and then have them sync up with each other?

2:17:50One plane does that. One plane does that. What airline was that?

2:17:57Qantas. Oh, okay. I think Qantas is up on it. Well, they got those 16-hour flights. They got to make things interesting. Yeah, they got to say, actually it says watch with a friend. Oh, that's smart. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, it's interesting. Like, what is the next level past AR with those goggles? It's going to be an immersive experience where you're actually – we had the people from Perplexity who were here earlier today. And we were talking about how people with AI and all this stuff, they're going to want more human experiences. Like going to see a live concert or seeing a sporting event live.

2:18:35I'm like, yeah, until it's completely immersive. And then it's like you're playing a video game, but you're in World of Warcraft or you're in Battlefield Earth or whatever game you're playing. I think for that form of entertainment, a video game, yes. But I still think because even, you know, it's more senses, bro. It ain't just the sight and sound. It's the smell. Yeah, but what if they can recreate that? Like, what if they get the technology where you can create a movie, but the person who is watching the movie is standing on the street, like in the opening scene where those girls pick that dude up in that Saab convertible?

2:19:18Like, what if you're standing, you feel the street, and you watch the dude get in the car? Right. But you're saying at home by yourself? Yeah. Well, you'd be terrified in my film. Yeah, of course. But you'll be in it. You'll be in it. That'll be interesting. I think that's coming, man. I think that's coming. Well, if that comes, reach out to me and I'll write a script to make sure that we fucking hit you with it right. Right. You're going to have to capitalize on all the different things that can take place. What do you think about that? Do you remember the Saab fucking 900? Oh, yeah. A friend of mine had one of those.

2:19:54It was a cool car. They were interesting looking. They were futuristic. They were different than any other car. Yeah, that's why in the film I was like, they was like, well, what kind of car are you on? I was like, give me a Saab. I was like, why? Do they still make them? I don't think so. I think they might have. No, I don't think they definitely don't make new ones. Uh-oh, hold on. Let's get there. Hold on. Yeah. I don't know. That's a good question. I know they make Volvo still. Yeah, I was in a Volvo. I don't know if they still make Saabs. No, bankrupt in 2011. Yeah, no more Saabs. Damn. But the punchline for me was that this sob, and I'll give you one spoiler of the film, as you finish the second half of it, there's no time.

2:20:38So I removed the time from the film so you don't know what year you're in. And that's why you'll see the sob, but then you'll see when they're playing their video game and shit, they're playing their fucking... Oh, right, with AR goggles. And a glove that don't exist. Right. I thought that too. When I was seeing a movie, I go, is that real? Yeah, the idea is that. I'm glad you brought that up. I want that to happen. I want to see one day I could play a basketball game like this. Right, right, right. That would be dope, right? That would be. They're getting real close to stuff like that. They're getting real close to stuff like that.

2:21:14We have an AR game out there that you, it's a zombie game. and you put the headphones on, the headset on, and you run around and you have an actual gun and you're shooting zombies. Right, yeah. And you're pointing it at it. And it's like they're getting really close. I'll show you something I discovered. Shout out to this guy. I think he's doing this all on his own. I found him and tweeted at him one day, but he didn't answer. Daniel Habib is his name. He's got this company called True 3D. He's done this with two movies so far, and I think you have to be in the theater to experience it. But it's kind of exactly what we're talking about.

2:21:49He converted a movie, I think Insidious, a scary movie. Oh, that's a scary movie. He's not showing you what, because he's being smart. He's also developing it still. And he also did it with Interstellar just recently. Whoa. I almost flew to New York just so I could go see it, because I was very curious, and it looks awesome. Yeah, it looks cool. So he adapted it to the Vision Pro? These are just in Meta Quest headsets, I believe, and you probably have to be at the theater, because I think that's where the sound's coming from. You probably looked it up. As the user watching it, you get to decide how in-depth this becomes because if you want to see the people next to you, you can sort of go level two and still see your neighbor or go level four and be fully in the room and you can't see anybody else.

2:22:31You can maybe just touch them because you know they're there. I like how some people are jumping and there's some people that are dead on the inside. Because these are jump scares, he has that built in, so you know when a jump scare is coming or you don't know when a jump scare is coming. oh interesting super scared or you can you know and not be scared that you know someone's gonna come from behind you why would you pass up maybe it's on this seems like it could fucking give you a heart attack yeah maybe it's people with weak hearts like let me know right let me know when i'm gonna get it free and also adobe i saw you seen that i saw adobe made this thing uh these Have you seen these Dolby glasses, bro?

2:23:09No.

2:23:12That you can hear shit, bro. Like surround sound with glasses on. Dolby. Yeah, I mean, I hope I don't not be feeling a secret. What is it doing different? Like, what do you mean you can hear things? You can watch, see, and hear. Yeah, and Dolby. So it's surround sound glasses. Yeah. And so the glasses, is it projecting it into your inner ear? Like, how is it doing? it. Does it plug into your ear? No, it doesn't even plug into your ear. So it's one of those things that sits above the ear on the outside, like pressing against your skull? Yeah, they kind of... They have headphones like that, right?

2:23:46I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen some headphones that give you 12.1. They're like earbuds and they don't go in your ear. They like sit on the skull. Yeah, see if you can find those Dolby glasses. I don't know if... I went to Dolby some months ago and they... Is this a spoiler alert? That's what I... I said, you can't edit this shit. We could if we can't, if you're not supposed to know. I don't know. There's something in here that doesn't. It's showing some 3D glasses they have, but it doesn't say the sound is coming out of them. I would imagine if Dolby's making him sound as involved. It has to be, right?

2:24:22Yeah. Dolby Cinema. Oh, it's 3D. They're 3D glasses. I don't know. No, no, no, bro. Listen, I put them on, bro. You can hear shit. So did you put them on to watch a movie? What did you put them on to watch? Yeah, I put them on. They had a whole demo room. I was looking at something. And it sounded like I was in the room with... It sounded like I was in the movie theater, but I took the glasses off. Oh, look, this is what it is. So it's showing you everything in 3D. You need to have the glasses, I think, to get the test. And the sound is connected. That's 2021. So this is five years old already.

2:25:04Again, this might not be. So this is a Vision, but what about this? Dolby Atmos. Atmos is the sound. Yeah. Plus Dolby Vision HDR. Yep, 12.61. What year is that?

2:25:22Hmm.

2:25:25That's 2024. Whoa. Oh, okay.

2:25:35that's that's different that's where you're okay that's where your home that's that's having your system but they got some shit with it it's in the glasses bro anyway well we're we're in an interesting time when it comes to technology and all this yeah and entertainment r vr stuff and yeah and where it's going i'm happy about it are you yeah it's interesting i mean i know a lot of people are freaked out about ai there's a lot of that a lot of people freaked out about ai music A lot of people are freaked out about AI replacing actors and their ability to generate images and video.

2:26:11I believe AI to be a tool. I'm from the hip hop generation, right? So we're sampling a record and therefore it's a digital replication of the record. It's not the record. Right. Right? And especially when sampling at 16-bit or 12-bit or some bit that's not even... where the computer or the AI or the chip has to fill in the pieces. This is why you get that sound you hear from hip-hop. So I always embraced it, the technology. I also know that it's nothing like the real thing. You know, I put on a, you know, even if, even if I put on a piece of vinyl and put that needle on it and play it, because in my house, I have it, I got all type of setups, right?

2:27:01But when we really want to have a good time, we just put on the fucking vinyl and it sounds so much better, different, or it's got depth to it. Exactly. It crackles. Exactly. It's something else. Yeah. So it's nothing like the real thing. But in between time, in the meantime, let's enjoy, you know, like you said, if I could make you feel like you're in Hawaii and you don't have to leave your house, cool, but if you could go to Hawaii, you know what I mean? Go to Hawaii. I was trying to tell the AI industry or AI community that we gotta change the A. it shouldn't be considered artificial digital intelligence well keep the A but don't change the A could be assisted, accumulated depending on the situation find the A word that makes it describe what you're doing like for instance right now it's assisting him Right.

2:28:11It's assisting intelligence. Right. Artificial sounds cheap. Yeah. Bro, you don't want artificial nothing. If you came to your girl and you proposed to her with some artificial diamonds, it ain't working. Girls don't even like real diamonds that are man-made. Isn't that weird that is? They have a hard time selling real diamonds that are made in a laboratory. Is that a real diamond? It's a real diamond. I mean, molecularly. Yeah, it's a real diamond. It's just not created by the earth over time. It's created in the laboratory. But if you look at it, it's a real, I mean, it's not like a fake Ferrari.

2:28:52It's a fucking diamond. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't have to do things. Like, if you go to China and you buy a fake iPhone, who knows what the fuck's in there? It probably won't work with Apple, won't work with the iTunes store, the Apple store. But a diamond is just a fucking rock. And they can take that carbon and compress it and make an artificial diamond. And the lady is like, no, I don't want it. I want a real one. I'm going to stick with the ladies on that one. Weird. I'm going to stick with the ladies on it because I think the value of the diamond is the time that it took to become existence.

2:29:31Unfortunately, diamonds are harvested in a similar way as cobalt. Oh, well. now that you put it there. Yeah, that's why they call them blood diamonds. Right, right. Yeah, so if you get a diamond from a lab, there's no blood. It's just a machine that's compressing carbon, and it looks beautiful. And I would, look, obviously I'm not a chick, and I don't own any diamonds. But if I did, I'd want the lab diamond. I'm like, give me that dope shit that some scientist figured out how to make. Basically, you'll go vegan on the diamonds. Yeah, because how big can they make them? How big can they make a lab-grown diamond?

2:30:06And how do they even tell? Like, how do you tell whether or not a diamond's a lab diamond? Like, is there a way that they can test them? Or is it just like provenance? Like, you know, based on like it coming from De Beers or wherever. But if there's a way that they could test them. Bless you. Bless you. If there's a way that they could test them, then it's not real. It's not real, yeah. Right, right, right. Unless there's a way, maybe they're perfect in a way that doesn't exist in the diamond world. I don't know. I'm guessing. Completely guessing. Look at the size of that fucking rock. 75 carats.

2:30:45The largest ever grown. Okay, so that's a fake, not a fake diamond, a real diamond made in a lab that's 75 carats. How much does that bitch cost?

2:31:0042 carat diamond for$88 ,000. Is that real? Is that how much it costs? That's how much it costs? That's nothing. I would be buying it from this website. BrillianceEarth.com. Jamie, just give them your credit card. Don't worry about it. That's real. You can tell. Yeah, that might not be real. That one might not be real. But let's find out what is a reputable site and how much is a reputable lab-grown diamond. How much? How much does that cost? Largest faceted lab-grown,$375 ,000. Do you know how much money that would cost if that was an actual diamond from the earth? Yeah. It'd probably be$100 million.

2:31:45Exactly. That's crazy. Well, that's... How much would that cost? Find out how much that would cost if it was a real, I mean, is there even a real diamond that exists that big?

2:32:00But$375 ,000? The biggest one weighed 3 ,100 carats. Whoa. When it was found in 1905. That's a real one. Yeah. Whoa. And it was cut into smaller ones. Look at that. Holy fuck. That's what I'm saying. It took a long time. The girl's like, I want that one. Give me that one. Jeez. How old, ask my man perplexity. How old is that diamond? Oh, my God. It has to be millions and billions of years old. Let's see what it's, what does it say here? Does it say the age of it? That's nuts. 1.18 billion years old. When it reached the surface. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? Now, how are you going to replicate that?

2:32:53You can if you think so. With a machine. You say, with a machine. Yeah, it's better. So, like, if you buy a lab-grown diamond versus a diamond that came from the earth, how can they tell the difference? Find that out. Can you discern? Put this into perplexity. How do you discern between a lab-grown diamond and a diamond that came from the earth? Whether or not, how do you discern? Make a girl smell it. They get up on a tub like, I don't smell blood. Yeah, men can't tell, but women can. Their hair on the back of their neck sticks out. I don't like it. Seems fake. It says you can't. You can't. It says you can't?

2:33:40I mean, it's specialized scanners, which almost means in. Hold on. Let me read that to the audience. It says. Visual appearance is the same. Lab-grown and natural diamonds have the same sparkle, hardness, and basic optical properties, so they look identical in jewelry. Naked eye tests don't work. Standard home tricks, fog tests, scratch tests, only distinguish diamond from non-diamond, not lab versus natural. Standard diamond testers don't help. Thermal electric testers will say diamond for both lab-grown and natural stones because their physical properties are essentially the same. In other words, you cannot reliably discern the origin on your own just by looking at it or using a simple tester.

2:34:19A jeweler, how do they do it? Let's see. What does it say here? Literally, it seems like they write the word lab-grown that you can see under a microscope or something. Amazing description of many lab-grown diamonds aren't inscribed. Why would you inscribe it? Because you're an asshole. Okay. I don't know. Okay. Inclusions and growth features. If you make better, if you're like the best at it, if you're the Rolex of making lab-grown diamonds so people can't copy yours, maybe. Well, no, no. Here goes something that's interesting. It says lab-grown HP, HT, and CBD diamonds can show characteristic of metallic inclusions and geometric patterns or growth striations that differ from most natural diamonds.

2:35:01But this is subtle and not always present. But there's a chance to dance, right? There's a chance. Natural diamonds tend to have more irregular geologic-looking inclusions. Fluorescence patterns under UV. Differences in how the stone fluoresces under shortwave and longwave UV light can hint at lab-grown versus natural, but interpretation requires training and comparison. Okay. Those are hints. That's interesting. But it says hints not guarantees, and many stones look ambiguous without proper instruments. Okay. So she got to complain. At the end of the day, right? She's got to bring it to a university.

2:35:39Yeah. Test this. Yeah, because she has to be, if she's dissatisfied, she really has to complain. Isn't it interesting, though, that it's the same thing, but some women want it to be from the earth and not from a lab, even though it's the same thing. It's like if they could make you a banana and it tasted like a banana, it had all the vitamins of a banana, it looked like a banana, but it wasn't grown on a banana tree. It just came out of a banana lab. Would you be upset if somebody gave you the fake banana if it's exactly the same? That's a good question. Weird. Well, well. Bananas aren't. There's no status attached to a banana.

2:36:21Right, exactly. It's just a food that we eat. Yeah. What about GMO? Aren't we anti-GMO? Yeah, but is it genetically modified if it's just a replica of a banana? I mean, a banana is probably a bad thing because you're putting it in your body. Right. But if it's something that is a complete— Here's a good one. Okay. Faux fur versus a real fur. Right. Why would you complain if I came home with a faux mink? Because some women want the actual animal to die so they can wear it. I want something to suffer in the snow and a trap around its neck. I don't know. It's weird. What movie was that? The Revenant, right?

2:37:05Yeah. That was a good one. That was crazy. Yeah. It was good because it also let us understand. I love the idea that there was a business, sadly, and motherfuckers going looking for animals to kill the brain back and make a jacket. Yeah. Yeah, still is. Still is. Still is. You know, there's a company in China that makes Rolexes exact to a real Rolex, but it's not a real Rolex. Because of 3D printing now, they can scan every individual part. So they buy a Rolex and then recreate exactly to the same type of steel that they use, the same quartz for the whatever the fuck is the term. The face, the bend.

2:37:59What is the term I'm looking for? The lens? It's not the lens. What is it called? Bezel? No, no, no. The glass part that's in the front. God, how can I forget that? Is it called the face? No. I forget what it's called. how it's one of those brain farts where my brain is like just not remembering what it means the crystal that's it just a crystal jesus um but they take it and they recreate everything with the exact same materials but it's like 500 bucks as opposed to 11 000 right but it is exact like you bring it to a watch person and it'll take them hours to figure out whether or not this is an actual Rolex or not.

2:38:40They have to use microscopes. They have to get up in there and look at the finish and the way the hands are made. They're getting better and better and better at it. Would you wear it? Yeah, I would wear it. I mean, I wouldn't because I have a real one. But if I didn't have a real one, I would wear it. You know who has a fake one? Usyk, the heavyweight champion of the world. Alexander Usyk wears a fake Rolex. He thinks it's hilarious. You know what? That's my big question. We were just talking about you know, the AI or talking about whatever it is. I think anything is good until the real thing shows up.

2:39:14You know, I think when the real thing shows up, it's going to be real. And it's something about the real thing, whatever that is, whatever that thing is, that's just like, it ain't going to never not be real. Right. You know what I mean? There's something about like a real Rolex. It comes from the company Rolex. It's been making watches for 100 years. and they figured out the technology. They figured out how to, you know, because these, like a Rolex is an automatic watch. So it's got, it's moving on, like this is an Omega and this watch is automatic too. So this is moving on, it's working on my movement.

2:39:51So my movement winds it. So every time I move my arm, it winds it up in the second hand. And it's incredibly precise, accurate within like a couple seconds a day. And somebody had to figure that out. And they figured it out a long fucking time ago. These guys figured out how to make the perfect amount of spring tension, these little tiny gears that move around in there. And how long does it last? How long will it stay charged for? Yeah, like I don't have too much. I do got a couple of Rolexes, but as you see, I don't want to show them. Oh, wow. They'll last for decades and decades. I mean, you could buy, there's a place called Bob's Watches online.

2:40:32You could buy like a 1967 Rolex, and it still works perfectly. Yeah, I mean, they last forever. And sometimes they need service, and all that means is like they need to clean them out, and maybe they replace a spring or some shit. But then it's back to work. I've seen one in, well, for the ones that's making in China, you know what I mean? That's, you know, and the guys. They call them super clones. Yeah, the super cloners, and you can't afford a real one, and you want to be cool with a fake one. Baller on a budget. Baller on a budget. We're not knocking that. But I saw one that my wife wanted.

2:41:05She didn't get it. I told her to get it, but she thought she'd get it somewhere else. In Brussels, right? They had, have you ever seen an orange Rolex? No. Exactly, bro. They had it on display for sale. And she never seen it either. I'm not into watches, but she's kind of getting there, into it. And we was kind of moving fast and shit, and she was like, you know, she saw it and she wanted it. I said, well, go ahead and get it. I'll wait. He said, no, I'll get it somewhere else. You can't get it nowhere else. You only could get it from that one location in Brussels. Oh, so Rolex makes it specifically just for them?

2:41:45Well, there's some companies that customize watches that you could buy where they take a regular Rolex and they customize it. And the problem with that is, even though it's expensive, it's not worth as much to some people because they've altered it. Right. This is not altered, though. Oh, it comes only from Rolex. Only from Rolex. And they only sell it. They only sell it there. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? See if you can find out one. People love exclusivity. Hall of Time in Brussels. Rolex Explorer II, the primary model featuring a single bright orange 24-hour hand, often found to authorized dealers like Hall of Time in Brussels.

2:42:26Wow, interesting. So I got to take her all the way back to Brussels to get it. Oh, it's so pretty, though. I don't know which one it is. I bet you could buy it online. If you buy it online, you probably have to pay a premium. Look at that,$11 ,000. You could buy it online. $210 ,000. Yeah, that's the more likely right there. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I won't be going back to Brussels. Jeez. It's just crazy how much cheaper those super clones are that look exactly the same. I bet you after this podcast, a super clone are going to say, he's going to make those now. See if you can find one of those super clone sites from China.

2:43:06Because what they're doing is just taking advantage of the fact that everybody wants these status symbols. And that's what a lot of it is. So here it is. What is this company called? Superluxuryreps.com

2:43:22Let's go with the Scroll up a little bit please. Right there. The Daytona. That's the classic. Black dial Daytona. Ooh, look at that blue one right there to the right. Yeah, look at that motherfucker. Click on that. $1 ,600. Boy, that would be so much more money. Look how pretty that is. That looks perfect. So no one would ever know. So for$1 ,600, no one is ever going to fucking know. There's a pretty good chance that's a picture of a real one, too. Good point. Good point. Damn, Jamie's taking levels ahead. I like that. I like that. That's true. They might be fucking with you. When you get it home, it ain't like it was in the picture.

2:44:03The Whopper is not the size it is on the commercial. Good, though. It's a sticker. Okay, so luxury, super luxury reps. Let's put this into a search, super luxury reps reviews. See, how good are the watches from super luxury reps? That's a fake one? That's crazy. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, that was crazy. Super clone date just 36 millimeter floral dial,$1 ,000. Trustpilot. It's all good. It's fine. Oh, Trustpilot. That's a good guy. That's crazy. They just stuck that on there. They stuck that. I mean, come on. This is in China. WhatsApp us. Yeah, this is in China. Video proof. Okay. You always need video proof on every website.

2:44:48Show me video proof. Oh, how about, okay. Go to Richard Millet because those watches are like a million bucks. You have a video proof of one right here. Oh, video proof. Show me the video proof. Someone's opening it on a vertical screen. Oh, so they're getting very close to it. Oh, yeah. I guess maybe they're trying to show the microscope. Yeah. Yeah, so you're seeing all the action and all the movement. So Richard Millet watch, click on those, please, because that's like a million-dollar watch. Those watches are insanely expensive. Not from here. How much did they cost? $1 ,600 or so. $1 ,400.

2:45:21Yeah. So$1 ,400 or half a million. Just learn where to shop. You know what I just learned from watching that thing, though? What? The other one you had with the moving gears, it reminded me of the quantum computer. Oh, okay. Yeah. My brain is bugged out. Those things are weird. But I saw the science of a quantum computer there. Right. All that stuff moving. Yeah, because it takes that. Well, the quantum computers are so crazy because all that shit is all cooling. And the actual computer is like the size of a Triscuit. Right. You think about the human heart, right? It's doing a lot of fucking work.

2:46:03Oh, yeah. you know what I mean yeah and it's do you know it's not really a pump that's what they're saying now yeah it's like a cycle it's like a vortex a vortex yeah but it's I used to think it was a pump but it makes sense right the quantum computer the brain all these things it's almost like our biology is teaching science is now catching up to the science of our biology and now finding a way to mechanically emulate our biology yeah So what superluxuryreps.com is, they sell, Perplexity says they sell superclone luxury watches, emphasizing that their pieces mirror the design, weight, and performance of genuine models.

2:46:45They present themselves as a premium alternative to cheap replicas, focusing on workmanship, durability. We just did an ad for these people. We basically just gave them an ad. I guarantee you some fakers are going to go there. You're not thinking you're buying the real thing here and you shouldn't. Right. That's just the note. But the thing is, it's like it mirrors the performance. It looks exactly the same. That's my point. It's like why does a Rolex cost that much money then? If they can make it for$1 ,400, why is it – like how much does a Daytona cost if you bought it retail? Like what is a Rolex?

2:47:24Let's take a guess. I got to imagine it's$15 ,000. I got to imagine it's at least 10 times more. What does a Rolex Daytona cost? So you're saying that the material is all the same. It's the same. Yeah. But they're stealing the idea. Yes. They're stealing everything. They're stealing the design, the idea. So when you're paying the$15 ,000, you're paying for the idea, the design, and everything, not just the material. So 30 grand. So it's more than 10. Look at that. Yeah. so that black one the black faced one is exactly like the one that they had there white that's pretty but you could sell that though the thing is that comes with paperwork and you could sell it probably for even more than 30 afterwards that's the difference that's the difference right yeah it can appreciate and it has serial numbers and paperwork and all that it's an actual investment i want to take a moment to once again this is the rizzo on the joe rogan Experience.

2:48:23You like when I do this? Yes, please. Okay, thanks. It's the RZA on the Joe Rogan Experience. I have a new film coming out. May 1st in theaters. It's called One Spoon of Chocolate. Quentin Tarantino presents The RZA's One Spoon of Chocolate in theaters everywhere. May 1st. It follows the story of an ex-military convict trying to find a better way in life. Ends up in a small town and shit goes bananas. Chaos ensues. Dun, dun, dun.

2:48:54action-packed, bone-shattering. And available in streaming in maybe a month or so. Yeah, maybe a month or so, maybe 45 days. Go see it in the movie theaters. And you know what? Go to the theaters, yo. You know how come? Because tell me if you agree with this. I don't care where you get popcorn from anywhere else. I like Disneyland. I like the amusement parks. But no popcorn touches movie theater popcorn. They know what they're doing. They got something going on there. But whatever that butter is, what is that shit? That stuff, when you go to the machine, you press the button? Oh, I don't know what that is.

2:49:26What's in there? I think it's vegan. It can't be good for you. It can't be good. It can't be good for you. Well, at the Alamo Draft House, they use real butter? Oh, they use real butter. Yeah, Alamo Draft House. You ever been to Sinopolis? Yes. Yes. Sinopolis is awesome. That's the joint, right? Oh, they have everything there. Is that a date night? Yeah, man. Beautiful seats, like laying back. They have waiters and waitresses. Do you and the wife like going to see movies? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite theater? I love Sinopolis. That's my favorite. Yeah, that's the place. Because the seats are the best.

2:49:59They recline. They're perfect. Yeah. The space is good. They know what they're doing. Plus, it costs a little bit more to go there, so no one's on their phone making noises. People aren't talking. You know what I mean? I agree. The crazy thing I will say, though, Sinopolis is my favorite theater as well for a date night with my wife. but I strongly believe that's from my experience that it was the Alamo Draft House that pioneered that whole concept of food. Yeah, bro. I remember coming out here I don't know it might have been 2004 or something like it was this one Alamo Draft House I think guys had it on On 6th Street.

2:50:37On 6th Street, exactly. That's my building now. That's your building now, bro? That's the mothership, yeah. I bought that place. That's the Ritz. Bro, that's my school, bro. Yeah, that's the risk. I'm saying that's why I used to come down to the QT. I mean, that's my film college. Yeah. I went there. I've seen so many movies there. I'm talking about six movies in one day. Tarantino screened Death Proof there. Yeah. Yeah. They had so many movies out of that place. That place was everything, man. It used to be a rock and roll club. It was, at one point in time, it was a pool hall. Right. It's been a bunch of different things.

2:51:10Well, you own my college now. Yeah, it's a dope spot, too. It's a perfect place. And we still have the original marquee because it's all the historical society. So it's a building from 1927. You got fried pickles in there? We don't sell food. No food. No food. We're a comedy club. There's food next door. There's a pizza joint on one side, a Mexican joint on the other side. Just plenty of food. You don't want to be eaten while you're laughing. We have one thing. We sell jokes. Nice. Jokes and drinks. That's it. I got to pop in, and who's your next guest? Oh, we always. I mean, I do shows there every Tuesday and Wednesday, and every weekend we have national headliners that are there.

2:51:52I don't even know who's there this weekend. Who's there this weekend, Johnny? But it's set up with two rooms, just like the Alamo was. There was two theaters there, so we have two rooms. We have a small room that seats like 110 people. Nice. And then the big room, it's like 250 people. Nice, nice. And it's set up perfect. We had it all, like the ceilings lowered and everything tightened up. The mothership. Comedy mothership. Rich Voss. Rich Voss, my boy. My boy Rich. He's awesome. The RZA, I'm glad we did it this time without Donnell. Exactly. Sorry, Donnell, I love you to death, but it was better without you.

2:52:28Better without you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry Indian gave you. Yeah, I got something coming to you, kid. A spoonful of chocolate out everywhere. Everywhere. May 1st. All movie theaters. See it in the movie theater first. That's definitely where you want to see it. You want to have that experience with a bunch of other people. And thank you, brother. It was always good to see you. And Wu-Tang Forever. Wu-Tang Forever. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Bong, bong. Here we come. Here we go. All right. Bye, everybody.

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