In short
The episode mixes Brian Simpson’s personal health story (a sudden heart attack and stent surgery), his “life hacks” for vision (astigmatism, red light therapy, and supplements), and long, comedic discussions about pets (dogs vs. wolves, apartment dog odors, cat behavior and catnip, and letting cats outside with coyotes). It also covers wildlife/animal behavior (coyotes, fox domestication, bears at salmon runs, and Florida python control efforts) plus a brief detour into politics (a congresswoman misreading “World War XI”) and gaming (his current playtest of Deadlock).
Guest backgrounds
Brian Simpson is a comedian/performer who trains by day and appears on the Joe Rogan Experience. He also has a pet-focused, anecdotal lifestyle (dog Marshall, cat Millie) and is an avid gamer with access to a closed playtest.
Key claims
- Red light therapy plus a supplement called “macular support” helped him stop needing glasses for many tasks.
- During stent placement, he coped by joking, and medical staff reacted poorly to his humor.
- Dogs are trainable compared to wolves; wolves can’t be trained and will act on their own.
- Catnip affects most cats (he treats it as universally effective) and lasts briefly.
- Coyotes increasingly live near cities; they can target cats when cats are let outside.
- Russian fox domestication shows tameness can be selected over generations.
- Florida python control with robot rabbits reduced one problem but also harmed the ecosystem; AI analysis revealed “highways” used by snakes and alligators.
Notable examples
- Heart attack: occurred Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta; stent via groin access.
- Pet story: Marshall swallowed gravel/chicken food, required overnight vet care, and passed rocks.
- Cat story: Millie was hostile after a divorce/fostering situation, but bonded to Brian.
- Wildlife: bear salmon-run videos where bears ignore humans; python robot-rabbit program; “coyote” Facebook persona defending coyotes.
- Gaming: Deadlock explained as a 6v6 lane-based game with money (“souls”) and a faster brawl mode.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOVision Improvement and Red Light Therapy
0:06 to 1:14
Discussion about Brian's improved vision through red light therapy and its effects.
“Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.”
Brian's Heart Attack Experience
1:14 to 1:54
Brian recounts his heart attack experience and coping mechanisms during the ordeal.
“Is it that I'm getting older or are they just using darker light in the restaurants?”
Humor in Serious Situations
1:54 to 4:34
Exploring Brian's humor during his heart procedure and the reactions it elicited.
“Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago.”
Nurses vs. Doctors in Healthcare
4:34 to 6:30
Comparison of the personalities and approaches of nurses versus doctors in healthcare.
“Like if they're going to put a stent in you, if they're going to do something.”
Dog Care and Vet Experiences
8:55 to 10:46
Brian shares a humorous yet alarming story about his dog's gravel-eating incident.
“Yeah, I don't know when the last time you had to do some serious shit for your pet.”
Wolves vs. Dogs: Training Differences
10:46 to 12:04
Discussion on the differences in trainability between wolves and domesticated dogs.
“That's what's so fucked up about human beings.”
Living with Dogs in Apartments
12:04 to 14:01
Conversation about challenges and responsibilities of owning large dogs in small apartments.
“He had like seven eighth timber wolves and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep.”
Pets and Their Unique Behaviors
14:01 to 16:44
Explore the quirks of pets, particularly cats and dogs, and their interactions with humans.
“I don't see that motherfucker every day.”
The Journey of a Stubborn Cat
16:45 to 18:54
Learn about the challenges of adopting a stubborn cat and her backstory.
“When I moved out here from Cali, like, she can't fly.”
The Mystery of Catnip
19:56 to 22:02
Uncover the effects of catnip on cats and the science behind it.
“Does she get high and roll around and get freaky?”
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Coyotes in Urban Areas
22:03 to 28:00
Discuss the behavior and impact of coyotes in urban settings and their adaptation.
“Oh, shit, you're only supposed to give a pinch?”
Coyote Enthusiast in LA Neighborhood
28:00 to 28:35
Learn about a passionate coyote defender in a neighborhood Facebook group.
“He just wanted everybody to know that he loved Coyote so much.”
Raccoons and Their Evolution
28:35 to 29:49
Discover the fascinating changes in urban raccoon populations and their domestication potential.
“And this guy would be like, if anybody here harms that coyote, they have to answer to me.”
The Russian Fox Domestication Study
29:49 to 30:42
Explore the Russian study on domestication of foxes and its implications.
“Like, did you ever hear about that Russian study they did with foxes?”
Interesting Behavior of Domesticated Foxes
30:42 to 32:23
Learn about the behaviors of domesticated foxes and their similarities to dogs.
“After over 60 years and dozens of generations, fox act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behaviors such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention.”
Bears, Salmon, and Human Interactions
32:23 to 33:55
Understand the relationship between bears and salmon and their interactions with humans.
“Like, if they can preserve energy, they will.”
The Python Problem in Florida
33:55 to 36:27
Discuss the challenges of managing the invasive python population in Florida.
“And this fucking giant bear just walks up besides him and sits down.”
The Struggles of Controlling Pythons
36:27 to 39:06
Explore the efforts and failures in controlling the python population in the Everglades.
“Well, it was a research center that got hit by a hurricane.”
Humorous Political Missteps
39:06 to 40:07
Listen to amusing political blunders, including a congresswoman's mistake.
“who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis.”
Stumbling Through Daily Life
40:07 to 42:00
Relate to the experiences of dealing with embarrassing and funny daily situations.
“I do, on a daily basis, I do things or say things that, like, I'm like, I definitely shouldn't have children.”
A Series of Unfortunate Events
42:00 to 43:00
Brian shares a comedic story about a rough start to his day.
“Because nothing could happen while I'm asleep.”
Impact of Sunshine on Mood
43:00 to 43:50
Discussing how lack of sunlight affects their mental state.
“late in the day and I don't get no sunshine, I just, I feel dumber.”
Gaming Habits and Preferences
43:50 to 44:50
Brian talks about his gaming habits and favorite games.
“Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock.”
Exploring the Game Deadlock
44:50 to 46:40
Brian explains gameplay mechanics and character selection in Deadlock.
“Okay, that first tower is where you start at.”
Game Strategy and Competition
46:40 to 48:20
Detailing strategies and the competitive nature of gaming.
“This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced brawl mode or street brawl, which is basically it knocks it down to four on four.”
The Complex World of Deadlock
48:20 to 49:20
Brian shares the lore and complexity behind Deadlock's gameplay.
“So the back story is an event happened called the Maelstrom that— There's a whole origin story.”
Life Perspectives Through Gaming
49:20 to 50:40
Discussion on adult responsibilities versus gaming lifestyles.
“I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43-year-old child.”
The Ultimate Gaming Setup
50:40 to 52:10
Exploring ideal gaming setups and gadgets.
“But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this.”
Streaming and Game Monetization
52:10 to 55:40
Discussing the potential and challenges of streaming games.
“I never figured out how to use those things.”
Exploring a Streamer's Setup
56:00 to 56:40
Learn about an elaborate streaming setup and the business of streaming.
“Yeah, his setup He's got is fucking crazy.”
The Financial Side of Streaming
56:40 to 58:30
Discussion on the potential earnings of successful streamers.
“So when he's streaming, how is he making money?”
Podcasting Journey and Monetization
58:30 to 1:00:30
Insights on the journey of podcasting from passion to profit.
“I never even thought of it making money.”
Addiction and Personal Experiences
1:00:30 to 1:02:10
Discussion about addiction, personal experiences, and different substances.
“I think addiction is very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive.”
Revisiting Smoking and Longevity
1:02:10 to 1:05:20
Controversial claims about smoking and its potential longevity benefits.
“I said, it's time to start smoking again.”
The Mitochondrial Argument
1:05:20 to 1:06:40
Exploring Dr. Gundry's theory linking smoking to improved health with diet.
“So your state is that if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking, the negative effects of smoking.”
Criticism and Analysis of Gundry's Claims
1:06:40 to 1:10:01
Debate on the scientific criticism surrounding Gundry's smoking claims.
“He's probably what he's saying is making sense.”
Gundry's Controversial Claims on Smoking and Longevity
1:10:01 to 1:10:36
Explore Gundry's theories linking smoking to longevity and the role of diet.
“Mike, Gundry suggested smoking could be linked to longer life, observing that some long-lived individuals in blue zone smoke.”
Critiques of Smoking Benefits and Nicotine Effects
1:10:37 to 1:12:10
Delve into the criticisms surrounding Gundry's claims and the effects of nicotine.
“So he's just a scientist relaying research.”
Nicotine Delivery Methods: Pouches vs. Cigarettes
1:12:11 to 1:13:57
Learn about the differences in nicotine delivery between pouches and cigarettes.
“They need cigarettes just to be back to zero.”
Vaping and the Addiction Debate
1:13:58 to 1:15:49
Examine the addictive nature of vaping compared to smoking and personal experiences.
“That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.”
Popcorn Lung and Vaping Risks
1:15:50 to 1:17:30
Discuss the risks of vaping, including the myth of popcorn lung and real dangers.
“The first hit is the only one that's good.”
Big Tobacco and Evolving Cigarette Marketing
1:17:31 to 1:23:50
Uncover how big tobacco influences cigarette marketing and public perception.
“There was a kid that I knew back in California.”
Cigarette Consumption Dynamics
1:24:01 to 1:25:16
Explore how cigarette designs influence smoking habits and addiction.
“you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray do you think that those Marlboros and shit like that they smoke quicker on purpose so that you smoke more of them?”
Quitting Strategies and Effects
1:25:17 to 1:26:49
Discuss the challenges and strategies for quitting smoking, including patches.
“And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives, like gum, Nicorette, all that shit?”
Nicotine Business Insights
1:26:50 to 1:28:23
Analyze the economic landscape of the nicotine industry and its evolution.
“You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers.”
Cognitive Effects of Nicotine
1:28:24 to 1:30:25
Consider the cognitive impacts of nicotine use and personal experiences with creativity.
“Let's say$6 billion because there's 350 million people plus Mexicans.”
Nicotine Replacement Products
1:30:26 to 1:32:46
Examine the market and effects of nicotine replacement therapies in the economy.
“And he wrote his best, craziest shit when he was doing that.”
Scams in America and Crypto Coin Discussion
1:32:47 to 1:36:39
Delve into the prevalence of scams in America and the mechanics of crypto coins.
“Yeah, he made, I believe he made$400 ,000, and he tried to cover his tracks.”
Trump Coin and Market Dynamics
1:36:40 to 1:38:00
Explore the rise and fall of Trump Coin and its implications in the crypto market.
“And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel.”
The Rise and Fall of Trump's Meme Coin
1:38:00 to 1:40:14
Explore the volatile journey of Trump's meme coin from launch to crash.
“Looking at it, how you asked, isn't the best way to look at this?”
Understanding Crypto Scams Targeting the Elderly
1:40:14 to 1:41:24
Learn about the tactics used in crypto scams that exploit elderly individuals.
“What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history?”
Consequences of Insider Trading and Military Operations
1:41:24 to 1:43:09
Discuss the ethical implications of insider trading in military contexts.
“And the people that try to talk you into it, they freak me out.”
The Complexity of Insider Trading Laws
1:43:09 to 1:44:45
Examine the legal complexities surrounding insider trading in Congress.
“And they have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit like that.”
A Neighborly Dispute Over a Home Addition
1:44:45 to 1:51:48
Dive into a legal battle over a home addition that leads to jail time.
“which carries a maximum of 10 years, one count of wire fraud, which is a 20-year max, one count of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10-year max, and what's the other one?”
The Aftermath of a Court's Decision
1:51:48 to 1:52:00
Discover the ramifications of a court ruling on a homeowner's property.
“So Martin signed a contract with a demolition company and needs to pay$392 ,372.50 to Dynamite Demolition.”
Legal Troubles and Creative Revenge
1:52:00 to 1:53:19
Discussion about legal disputes and unconventional revenge strategies.
“Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail.”
Neighborly Relations and Compromises
1:53:20 to 1:54:48
Exploring the importance of neighbor relations and reasonable compromises.
“And you you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible and all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it.”
Cultural Roots of Violence in Appalachia
1:54:49 to 1:57:16
Understanding the historical context of violence in Appalachian culture.
“And I'm going to spend my whole, I'm going to live my life as though that's true.”
Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers and Mastery
1:57:17 to 1:59:26
Insights from Gladwell's 'Outliers' on practice, success, and the Beatles.
“This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict.”
The Influence of Practice on Skill Development
1:59:27 to 2:03:40
The significance of continuous practice in skill mastery and performance.
“What were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie?”
Domain Names and Internet Culture
2:03:41 to 2:05:16
A discussion on the evolution of domain names and their value.
“And so if you saw O.F., you know, before seven years ago, it meant that's what it meant.”
Humorous Internet Trolls and Memes
2:05:17 to 2:06:00
Exploring humorous internet trolls, including the Pepsi Spice saga.
“So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out.”
The Ridiculous Pepsi Spice Project
2:06:00 to 2:07:00
Discussion about the humorous Pepsi Spice project and its unexpected outcomes.
“Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time.”
Website Ownership and Pricing
2:07:00 to 2:09:14
Conversations about website ownership, pricing, and social media presence.
“And he had a photo of him with his old jeans.”
Surveillance and Privacy Concerns
2:09:14 to 2:10:16
Discussion on privacy concerns regarding technology and surveillance.
“Well, now it's not the Chinese anymore now.”
COVID-19 Cover-Up Allegations
2:10:16 to 2:12:16
Exploration of allegations surrounding a COVID-19 cover-up and its implications.
“They arrested the first guy who was involved in the cover-up of the lab leak theory.”
Scientific Discoveries on the Universe
2:12:16 to 2:15:36
Discussion about recent scientific discoveries related to black holes and the universe.
“Did he— Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right?”
The Expanding Universe and Its Mysteries
2:15:36 to 2:20:01
Insights on the expanding universe and the potential future of cosmic observation.
“Bro, you know, they just launched, or they're going to launch on SpaceX.”
Exploring Cosmic Expansion and the Future of Stars
2:20:01 to 2:22:08
Learn about the implications of cosmic expansion and the fate of stars as the universe evolves.
“And so it's like at some point, if there's still people on Earth by then, at some point there's not going to be any stars.”
The Mysterious Great Attractor
2:22:09 to 2:23:37
Discover the concept of the Great Attractor and its gravitational pull on galaxies.
“Nature of this object was first noted in 57.”
Uncovering Megastructures Under the Pyramids
2:23:38 to 2:27:28
Explore the discovery of potential megastructures beneath the pyramids and their implications.
“And it's sucking all these galaxies, all these super galaxies.”
The Mysteries of Ancient Civilizations
2:27:29 to 2:30:30
Discuss theories about ancient civilizations and their technological capabilities.
“When you said Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about him like taking a nap in the middle of the night.”
The Rise of Super Syphilis
2:30:31 to 2:32:44
Learn about the emergence of a new strain of syphilis and its unexpected consequences.
“So like they were exchanging traits inside his body.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Do you gotta get new glasses? No, I just have a different pair for different stuff. Did they get stronger? No. No? I just have a... Did you always have glasses? Like, do you have an eyeball issue? Yeah, I got astigmatism. Okay. But I got one for driving and one for my computer. I used to have to use reading glasses. Then I started using red light, red light therapy. And I think that the first thing I started doing is taking this company, Pure Encapsulation, has this it's called macular support.
0:47It's like a combination of nutrients that help your eyeballs. I don't know how, but I explained it to Huberman. He read it off to me and he's like, this makes sense. But then the big one was red light. I started using red light therapy. I don't need glasses anymore. What? Yeah, my eyes aren't perfect. Like in low light, they're not so good. Like in a dark restaurant, I have to use the flashlight on my thing to read a menu, but I don't need glasses anymore. So I've been wondering that. Is it that I'm getting older or are they just using darker light in the restaurants? They definitely use dark light in restaurants.
1:20I mean, young people can still read it. Like I've gone to restaurants with my kids and they can read in the dark. I'm like, you can read that? I can't read it. but um but like small print like on my phone like reading an email i didn't used to be able to read it and now i can read it perfectly oh see now i'm in that age now where i gotta start switching switching glasses different yeah here we go here we go listen dude i'm just happy you're alive oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean you know you know man people don't know what we're talking about You had a heart attack. Yes, I had a heart attack three months ago.
1:57Yeah. Super Bowl weekend. Yeah. In Atlanta. Yeah. Out of nowhere. Well, was it really out of nowhere? Not really.
2:11You know, like. It's not like you were a marathon runner. Right, right. Exactly. But I was sitting there, you know, honestly, I was sitting there thinking. Because I remember the doctor. because we really are, like, we've set ourselves up. We kind of deal with trauma. I mean, you can argue about whether it's healthy or not, but our first go-to is humor. And I remember the doctor getting upset with me. Like, the surgeon, the lady that was about to, she was about to put a stint. So, you know, I'm sitting there, and she was like, hey, something very serious just happened to you. You know? Because I was just talking.
2:50You know, I was, but it was just how I was just coping, you know. Right, right. She was not happy about it. Did you tell her that's how I deal with things? No, I was already all drugged up and shit, you know. Because it was one of the things where I think, like, you can't, they can't put you out completely. Like, it's not that kind of anesthesia. Oh, okay. But I think they need you to be conscious, kind of, in case something goes wrong. But whatever the fuck they put me on, I don't remember any of it. And you were joking around and she was upset. Yeah, what happened was when I got to the hospital, the doctor that first saw me was like, I forget his name, but he was like, hey, I'm Doug.
3:30And don't don't worry about anything. I'm going to be with you the whole time. You know, and then maybe 20 minutes later, you know, they wheeling me in. They drugging me up. And I'm like, hey, where the fuck is Doug? You know, and they're like, who's Doug? I was like, he promised me that he wasn't going to leave. Obviously, I was just joking. I know he was just saying that so I would calm down or whatever. I don't know why Doug thought he would bring me comfort. But I fake made a big deal of the fact that I felt abandoned by Doug. And she didn't think it was funny. But somebody did. And that's all I needed was to laugh.
4:08I'm like, it's you, bitch. It's not me. You're the problem. You're too serious in here. Well, why would she need you to be serious if you're getting a stent put in? Wouldn't that make it work better? I mean, to be fair, I think my whole life people have said as serious as a heart attack. And I feel like if you dedicated your life to that, you're probably a serious person. I don't know any other heart surgeons, but I bet they are pretty uptight. Yeah, they have to be. It's life or death with every decision that they make, right? I guess. They got to get it in on time, right? Like if they're going to put a stent in you, if they're going to do something.
4:36Like if you're one of those people like you are that if you didn't address this, you would have died. Right. Right. So that's one of those things that's time critical. So I guess with those people, like, hey, stop fucking around. Like, in their mind, like, I got to save you. I got to figure out what has to be done within a certain amount of time and get you on the road to recovery. Because if I don't, you're dead. You know what? Something else I remember. And this was just flashbacks. I only remember these couple seconds. She kept yelling at me because I kept moving my hands. So basically, I'm laid down like this, and they want you to keep your hands right by your side.
5:14And I just remember I kept coming to with her being like, hey, keep your hands. She might have said keep your fucking hands down. I don't know, though. I don't know. I ain't going to make no accusations. But she was clearly upset about it. But I'm like, bitch, I'm on drugs you gave me. I'm not doing it on purpose. apparently my default response because they have to put a stint in but they go through your groin. Yikes. So apparently my default response is to protect my dick. Like I'm waking up, somebody's fucking around down there. You know? It's like why don't y 'all tie me down if it's that important?
5:52Why don't you tie my hands down? But maybe they can't, I don't know. I don't know what else is going on. And medical people are real sensitive about criticism. You know, some of them are really like We save lives. How dare you? And it's like, all right. Some of y 'all are still assholes, though. They don't have the best sense of humor. They can't. That's not the way. If you want to be a really good doctor, you can't be also a stand-up comedian. See, the nurses have a sense of humor. Right. Right. Nurses are fun. They might as well be different species. Yeah, nurses are fun. Nurses come in. They joke around with you.
6:26They fuck around. Some of them do, at least. Some of them kill you. Let's be honest. in Atlanta the nurses were incredibly attractive. There was hot nurses everywhere. Nurses and it's something about vet techs. The ladies working at the vet hospitals. It's something about going into that field. I don't know what it is. Vet techs you mean veterinarians. Yeah like veterinarians. But not the doctors. Right. Just the nurses. Well they're people who love animals. Sweet people. Oh yeah. And money. They love animals for money. Well, the nurses don't usually love money. If they did, they wouldn't get into that profession.
7:06But the veterinarian hospital certainly loves money. The administration. Speaking of which, I can't decide which pisses me off more is like when I get the bill at the human hospital. Because at the vet hospital, I feel like they're extorting me. You know, like when I got the bill from this hospital, I was like, God damn. But I was in there and they were because they didn't walk up to me while like before the surgery and go, what's it going to be? Right. But when it's your pet, that's what they do. Right. We could do this life saving thing, which is the best thing to do, but it's way more money than you have.
7:45Or, you know, you can be a piece of shit pet owner and get the twenty dollar thing. Yeah. They're trying to get you to take out a loan, all that. Just really turn the screws. That's awful. This episode is brought to you by Tecovas. All right, guys, if you want boots that are made right, you got to check out Tecovas. Their Western boots are sturdy and clearly built to last, but really sharp and premium too. You don't need to break them in either. They're comfortable straight out of the box and great boots for those summer concerts, weddings, work events, whatever. And they're versatile too. You can wear them with jeans, dress them up or down, whatever you need.
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9:11Oh, my God. He's retarded. He's the sweetest boy. he's the sweetest sweetest dog that's ever walked to face the earth but he is not clever and and so um we bring him inside no one knows no one knows anything that happened and then he starts throwing up and he's throwing up rocks like little pebbles and then he starts getting diarrhea and he's diarrhea and pebbles i'm like oh no and then we put two and two together we figured out what happened and so then i had to take him to the vet so i took him to the vet and he had to stay there overnight. And luckily, they didn't have to do surgery. They pumped it out of it.
9:45They somehow or another got the rocks out of his stomach and they had to keep scanning it to make sure there's no rocks remaining in there. And so he passed all the rocks. He either threw them up or shit them out. And then within a certain amount of time, I think he was there for at least 24 hours. But after a certain amount of time, he started eating and then they weren't worried about him anymore. That dog fucking eats. All he wants to do is eat. He gets so excited. Oh, yeah. All he wants to do, his favorite thing is eat. I want every morsel of flavor out of this dirt. It's so crazy he kept eating rocks.
10:13I mean, he ate pounds of gravel. It wasn't like a small amount of gravel. It was the amount of gravel that was in my living room on the carpet was crazy. Oh, wow. Out of throw up and just diarrhea. It was everywhere. It was a crime scene. I bet you he won't do that shit again. Oh, yeah, he will. He will. He'll do it tomorrow. Dude, that dog doesn't learn shit. He's the best. Like, he's a sweet dog. I love him so much. I love him so much. He's just all love. Every time I see him, he's just wagging his tail. I get down on the ground with him. He kisses me. I hug him. I rub his belly. He's the best, but he is not.
10:49That used to be a wolf. That's what's so fucked up about human beings. We took something that's the most clever, they communicate with each other. They plan traps on animals. They're so clever. And also, you can't train them. You know that about wolves? You can't train them. That's why you don't see wolves in the fucking circus. You cannot train you could train a bear you could train a lion you could train a tiger Wolves just go fuck you. I'm gonna do exactly what I want to do, but not dogs Certainly not my dog like Marshall. He's the sweetest like he was so easy to train Yes, wow cuz you could train a line, but you can't train a train a what more You could train house cats to do certain things like some people have trained their house cat to shit in the toilet No, Joe, there's a video of like, I want to show you, she's Russian, she's like the world champion cat training lady.
11:44And she's getting these cats to do a whole bunch of shit, but every now and then. They do what they want. They just do what the fuck they want. Yeah, that's true. You can't get them to do it like a really good dog will, like a Belgian Malinois that's a soldier. No, absolutely not. Just does every task you ask them to, that's impossible. Absolutely not. But with wolves, you can't train them to do anything. They won't listen. I didn't know that. they don't listen to you at all. I had a friend who had wolves. He had like seven eighth timber wolves and they got out and killed a bunch of his neighbor's sheep.
12:14You couldn't stop them from doing anything they wanted to do. Whatever they wanted to do. Why did he have a pack of wolves? He's an idiot. He had three of them. I was like, you don't have these dogs. You just feed them. This is not like a dog. They don't listen to you and you have a house with a yard. That's crazy. Like, you should have, like, an enormous piece of land. And even then, if you have wolves, they're going to kill everything they run across. Yeah, they need miles of space. Yeah, they're cardio machines. They run through the mountains. They chase down moose. That's why I get so irritated when, because I'm in an apartment now, and I'm in one of those, I don't know what the fuck is going on with my building, but it's full of dog people.
13:00Like, the building is for dog people. There's a dog wash. All of the grass around it is all fake. And there's fucking shit bags every 10 feet. And the front of the building from like noon to 4 p.m. It always just the strongest scent of dog piss because 50 people have walked their dogs around it. And that's fine. I don't mind that at all. But what irritates me is when I see, because I know I have the biggest apartment in the building. and I know that I don't have room for like I don't have the room for like a blue healer right you see motherfuckers with dogs like that that dog needs to be running miles every day why do you got that big ass dog I saw a damn I saw a Cane Corso that's crazy you got a Cane Corso in a 1300 square foot apartment?
13:59That's crazy. That's crazy. And here's the other thing. I don't see that motherfucker every day. So you skipping days? This motherfucker needs to hurt things. He needs to have exercise. It's like having an MMA fighter living in your house. You better take him to the fucking gym. He's got to blow off steam. When people find out that I have a cat, they're always like, oh, so your apartment smells like a cat. No. But you know whose places always smell bad? It's people that have a dog that's too fucking big to be in the place. Yeah. Yeah. Also, they probably can't wash it right. Like, what are you going to do?
14:34Do you get in the shower with it? I used to get in the shower with my dogs. I bring Marshall to a groomer, but my dog Johnny, he used to love to get in the shower with me. Really? Yeah. He was a big Mastiff, and he loved it because it was just massages and love in the shower. I'd just cover him with shampoo, and I would talk nice to him. I'd go, oh, we're getting so clean, buddy. He'd give me kisses. I think there's something about seeing their human with no clothes. I think they lock, because my cat does it. She loves to come in the bathroom whenever she knows I'm naked. Or she has a shower running, and she just sit there and watch.
15:07It's probably weird to them that you could take your clothes off. I mean, no, I think it's weird to them that you wear clothes at all. Oh, for sure. They're like, what? Yeah, what are you doing? Why are you under the sheets all the time? Yeah. And I've softened my stance on people that put clothes on their animals, but I'm like, they don't like it. No, well some dogs like Chihuahuas in the winter. It's a good idea You know what I'm like 30 degrees like a dog likes it. No the dog likes that you like it They like pleasing you but they don't want clothes on they don't but if you have like a little dog Like like a chihuahua for instance, they get really cold Those guys if you put a little sweater on them like they feel better outside It just makes sense.
15:49It's warm. But okay, then go all the way then. Where the boots at? I'm going to wear boots in the summer because New York City, the street gets so hot. Think about how hot the street gets. If it's 98 degrees outside. It was like broken glass. Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, you're just walking on hot rocks. Right. But also, what are you doing with that big-ass dog in New York City? That's true. There are no apartments. Why you got a Great Dane out here in New York? I mean, I would have to make a choice. Like if for some reason I had to move to New York City, I'm not getting rid of my dog and I'm not leaving my dog here.
16:22You can't be rid of your dog. No chance. Not a chance in hell. So I would just have to commit to a lifestyle of taking that dog out to like Central Park every day, doing things with him every day. I would have to make a choice. Bro. I would have to live near the park for sure. Like for me to get rid of my cat, it would have to be like. They'd have to die. They'd have to die, or it would have to be something where, like, I am absolutely not capable of, you know, like, I can't move. Right. Or something crazy like that. Right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. When I moved out here from Cali, like, she can't fly.
16:59Oh, so did you drive her across the country? I paid somebody to. Oh, there you go. Oh, that would be a fuck. Actually, I didn't have a car at the time, but that would be a nightmare. This is the most stubborn, like, this creature, like, I have a hard time getting her. I've taken her to three groomers. They've all been like, you got to come get her. You got to come get her. Because she doesn't like to be restrained in any way. And at the slightest sign that you're thinking about holding her down or putting her in something, she will fight with everything she got. Is she a feral cat? No. Well, she might have been.
17:33Would you get her? I got her. The story the lady told me, it doesn't really add up. But basically, a divorce happened. This family had two cats and a dog. And then the wife got the house and started fostering animals. And then my cat's brother, so her and her brother were the original cats. My cat's brother started basically like joined this pack of cats because Millie don't socialize at all. but her brother kind of turned on her Game of Thrones yeah and so since then she was just hostile with everybody all the animals I mean and so when I came to get her all these animals were in this lady's house except Millie she was in the garage and they had a little post and she was in the garage and when I came to take her she was so down to go she was like fuck all them people fuck my brother fuck this but she likes you oh yeah she loves me she still follows me from room to room oh well that's sweet yeah yeah yeah there's some cats that just choose one person too She also hates me, too.
18:39She hates you? I think she hates... She probably had bad experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got some kind of trauma that I'll never know about. You got to give her some kitty cat ayahuasca. Bro, I've had to put her on CBD and shit before we go to the vet. Really? This episode is brought to you by Ketone IQ. I don't care who you are. Performance is mental. I talk for a living, so I'm always looking for a way to stay sharp. Ketone IQ is one of the few things that actually feels like a game changer. It came out of a$6 million U.S. military research program on human performance. It's a small shot of ketones, fuel your body makes when fasting or training, and your brain loves it.
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20:03I've never seen a cat where it doesn't work on. Imagine, I mean, is there shit like that for people? Oh, yeah. You just give someone. We got plenty of shit like that. But I don't know if it gets them high. I don't know what it's doing to them. To them? Well, let's find out. I really have no idea what the mechanism of. Let's put this into perplexity. All right, Jeremy, you already did it. What's perplexity? Catnip is an aromatic. Perplexity is our AR sponsor. Really? Yes, we have an AR sponsor. Oh, shit, okay. It's the shit. It's not ideologically captured. Catnip is an aromatic herb in the mint family whose leaves and stems contain a chemical.
20:39How do you say that word? Nepetala. Want to try that, Jamie? I'm going to say nepetalactone. I think you're right. Nepetalactone. That triggers playful or euphoric behavior in many cats. Many cats. Interesting. I thought it was all cats. A plant is native to Eurasia, now common across temperate regions, and is easy to grow in North America, often in gardens or pots. Why cats react to it? Catnip contains an oil whose main active compound is nepotalactone, a type of terpene produced in glands on the leaves and stems. When the cats smell nepotalactone, it binds to receptors in their nose and stimulates brain pathways linked to mood, leading to behaviors like rolling, rubbing, purring, meowing, jumping, or brief zoomies.
21:30Only about two-thirds. Oh, okay. 80 % of cats are sensitive to catnip. The tendency is genetic. The effect usually lasts 5 to 15 minutes, after which they become temporarily immune for a while. Wow. Is it safe? For most cats, catnip is considered non-toxic and safe, and many vets recommend it as an enrichment to encourage play and reduce boredom or stress. Eating a small amount is usually fine and may soothe the digestive tract, but large amounts can cause short-lived stomach upset, vomiting, diarrhea, or dizziness. Your cat's just fucking a fiend. Oh, shit, you're only supposed to give a pinch?
22:07I don't know. That's what it say down there. Only a pinch. Oh, here it goes. Because of this, people typically offer just a pinch of dried or fresh. How much do you give your cat? Bro.
22:21I don't fuck to her world. Oh, my God. You give her a fat bag? You give her a fat bag? I just let her go at it, man. You know what's funny, man? My cat is very, like, I let her do what she wants. You know, like, I let her, she can go outside. Like, you know, she's not an outdoor cat, but if she want to go out, I open the door. Because I make, you know what it is? I make sure outside is not some mystery place. If she want to go, I open the door and let her go. And then after she get cold or hear something and smell, I run back in the house. Because that way she's not just dying to go out there all the time.
22:56Right, right, right. I'm not worried about her running away. I worry about coyotes, man. When you let cats out, man, coyotes are fucking everywhere. And they target your house. They know where the cats are. They know the cats that get let out. Yeah, but it's like nothing comes near my building because it just smells like 50 dogs live there. Yeah, but they eat dogs too. Really? Mm-hmm. Yeah, my daughter's puppy got eaten by a coyote in California. The guy was training and he left the puppy outside and got eaten by coyotes. Bro, I haven't seen no coyotes. Oh, I've seen them. Also, but here's the other thing too.
23:29My girl is, you know, she takes zero chances. The slightest sign of danger. And she already got 50 spots to hide and run. Like, she's never gotten into it with anything. The thing about coyotes is they're predators, right? And cats are predators, too. But pets are different than wild animals. Yeah, this bitch ain't no predator. They're very different. She'll bring a fucking mouse in the house. Yeah, I mean, they kill stuff. They kill stuff for fun. But there's a difference between that and needing to eat and needing to, like, eat cats in order to survive, which is what coyotes do. So coyotes know where the cats are.
24:07They know the smell when cats are peeing outside. So they know a cat lives in the house. They know the cat pees outside. They just hover nearby and wait because they know it's a matter of time before the cat has to go outside. You know what's funny, man? I haven't seen the coyotes the whole time I lived in Austin. They'll hide. I think it's about three years now. They hide. I know. I saw them all the time in L.A., though. You'll see them. They exist. You know what it is? I think it's that the ones out here aren't starving like the ones in L.A. were. Right. Because they get bolder and bolder the hungrier they get.
24:37Well, the thing about Austin as opposed to L.A. is there's a lot of animals and there's a lot of moisture, right? So if you're outside of greater Austin area, like a lot of these coyotes, I see them all the time out where I live because there's a lot of animals where I live. I see, like, foxes almost every day. I see armadillos a couple times a week. I see deer every day. I always see, especially when I come home, I see foxes running across the road. There's all kinds of animals. So there's all kinds of things that coyotes eat. A lot of rabbits. All kinds of things coyotes eat. And so they don't have to come into the city.
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25:11Whereas in L.A., you've got L.A. And then everything around L.A. is just barren. You know, it's all dry and fucked up. And you might find a rabbit, but it's way easy to eat someone's cat. And I think that every person doesn't realize how many coyotes are around them. Oh, yeah. Every major city, they're like raccoons. They're in every city, everywhere. There's a great book on it called Coyote America. Oh. Yeah, it's really good. And it's all about how coyotes, what happens is when they yell out, they're doing like a roll call. And when they're doing a roll call, they're letting all the other coyotes know that they're there.
25:52And when one of them's missing, the female coyotes assume that that coyote's dead. And so their body responds by making a larger litter. What? Yeah. They'll have more babies if someone's missing. Damn, death makes them horny? Well, it makes them have more children. They always have children. They're always horny, right? But they, instead of having three pups, they'll have six. And they spread out. Because they were persecuted by gray wolves. Like, that's the whole deal. And being gray wolves and red, so coyotes and red wolves mate with each other. That's why you get what they call a coy wolf. But it really is.
26:32Coyote is a wolf. It's a type of wolf. But they're not related to the gray wolves. And gray wolves and coyotes don't mate. So gray wolves, the ones that happen like Colorado and, you know, like Montana, those wolves just eat coyotes. They just kill them. They don't fuck around. So there's no chance of becoming allies. So those coyotes learned a long time ago when they start getting killed by wolves, just spread out. Just get the fuck out of there keep moving. That's why they're in 50 states They're in every city in the country now and that wasn't the case when I was a kid when I was a kid Like I grew up in Massachusetts and my high school years.
27:10There was no fucking coyotes Nobody I never even heard of anybody seeing a coyote. I never saw a coyote in my life until 1994 in I Remember in LA they have those oakwood garden apartments It's like furnished apartments that they had in L.A. And I was driving to it. It's like when I first moved there. I didn't have an apartment yet. When I first moved there, I was like, are those fucking dogs? Are these dogs? I'm like, oh, shit, those are coyotes. I remember pulling the car over, looking at them like, this is weird. These weird little wolves just wandering around the city. That's how you know you see a coyote.
27:45You're like, is that a dog? Well, that was the first time, and that was in 94. but by the time you know we left in 2020 fucking they were everywhere i mean everywhere like they expanded and now they're in new york city they find them in in the middle of the fucking park they find them in the bronx they're in abandoned buildings they're all over the place they're in chicago coyotes are all over the whole country when i uh when i was in la one of the neighborhoods I lived in that was like, I was in the neighborhood Facebook group and there was a dude in there. His name was Coyote. The guy's name was Coyote.
28:23He just wanted everybody to know that he loved Coyote so much. And he would literally, he would defend coyotes no matter what the fuck they did. Like somebody would be in the Facebook group, hey, a coyote fucking ate my dog right out of my hands. Watch out. And this guy would be like, if anybody here harms that coyote, they have to answer to me. Fuck your dog. Oh God. Oh yeah. I think his name was like, his name was like Coyote Jones or something like that. He was serious. He was real serious. Really into coyotes. He was, you know, everybody got their thing. Wow. They're an interesting animal, man.
28:55It's really interesting in that book. It's all about. You know who's, I just saw something about how raccoons are the next animal that's being, you know, tamed or domesticated or whatever. Oh, I believe that. The ones in the city are starting to have shorter snouts. Oh, whoa. Yeah, they're starting to... Look more like how wolves became bitch-ass wolves when they came around the fire. Basically, they're starting to get cuter. Like dogs. The ones closer to us are getting cuter because they know it gets them treated better. Wow. The cuter ones have more babies. Wow. I know, and that's crazy. Because I read somewhere that we haven't actually domesticated cats.
29:37That makes sense. Maybe domesticated isn't the word. But never got them to the point where we did with dogs. Exactly. But raccoons are getting there. That's so interesting. Because but it makes sense. Like, did you ever hear about that Russian study they did with foxes? Like how quickly you can domesticate a fox? Oh, no. I didn't know that you could do that. It's really quick. So you start out with foxes and any fox that shows any aggress. You start with a bunch of foxes. Any fox that shows any aggression to a person, you kill it on the spot. Oh. Bang. Dead fuck you get all the ones that survive or ones that have no aggression towards people and then slowly their snouts get shorter And their ears start to flop and over the course of like 10 years you got a totally different animal See if you can find that why don't people do that?
30:22I don't well they did do that with this one study, but it was just to show how quick things change Like given natural selection like natural selection dictated that if you're a sweeter Fox you live if you show your teeth They fucking shoot you in the head, you know, and I'm sure Russian scientists are probably a little bit more hardcore. Oh, Chinese. Here it is. Dmitry Belov in Ludmilya Trout, the Russian fox domestication program is a long term experiment in Novosibirsk, Siberia, that successfully bred domesticated silver foxes, a form of red fox, selecting specific specifically for tameness.
31:03After over 60 years and dozens of generations, fox act like domesticated elite pets, displaying dog-like behaviors such as tail wagging, licking, and whining for attention. So you could buy them? Can you buy one of these foxes? That's crazy. See if there's a video. Oh, you can get one for$9 ,000. What? Known for high energy and needing intensive care. Yeah, you don't want that in your fucking 1 ,300-square-foot apartment. What makes them elite, though? It is interesting, right? What does that mean?
31:36Does it look like AI? Let's see. Who knows nowadays, right? Oh, look at this. He's got a fox as a pet. Oh, wow. They're like little dogs. That's crazy. Oh, bro. But the thing about foxes are they are, like, playful in the wild. Even wild foxes are playful with people. Oh, this little guy's missing a foot. I don't know if those are wild or the thing these are just different foxes I don't think these are those foxes this is just right it's showing the info and then showing a bunch of different foxes but if you remember grizzly man like that movie the warner herzog movie so he was living in the middle of alaska around these bears and the foxes would come and hang out with him and the foxes would like hang out in his tent they would play with him they stole his hat once and ran away with his hat and he was like chasing him trying to get his hat back and the bears don't attack the foxes well they probably would if they could but foxes probably can get away i mean they'd probably catch a fox slipping every now and then but mostly what they were looking for up there was salmon they're eating a lot of salmon and when bears get salmon that's all they want like you there's a crazy video that we've shown before of this guy and they're on the edge of a river and the salmon are running there's all these bears in there that are just like just gorging on salmon which is why those coastal bears are so much bigger like kodiak bears like alaska the reason why they're so much bigger is because they have access to salmon they have access to fish and all the other animals that are there too but when they're when there's a salmon run that's all they want they just want to eat salmon so you're saying like if you give salmon to a bear that's never had salmon before it'll just that's all it'll want after no that's not what i'm saying i wouldn't And it's probably delicious.
33:27I mean, that's why we like sashimi. But I think the access is so easy. They don't have to chase anything. They just stand in the river. It literally comes to them. They just bite it out of the air. You see how bears do that? Oh, yeah. And bears are kind of lazy. Like, if they can preserve energy, they will. They just want to get fat for hibernation, right? So they just want to eat as much as possible. So the point is, like, when they're like that and they're just eating fish, you don't even have to worry about them. They're not even going to kill you. So this dude is, like, sitting there. He's got like a little lawn chair.
33:56And this fucking giant bear just walks up besides him and sits down. Like sits down almost like a person. And they're like, hey, get out of here. Hey. I mean, it is as close to him as you are to me. And it might be a thousand pounds. I mean, this thing is fucking gigantic. And you see the river behind him. So you see all these bears that are just scooping salmon out of the river. And what is the bear trying to tell him? The bear doesn't give a fuck. He just comes to sit down. Like you might be a stick or a person. It doesn't matter. It's eaten salmon. Sorry, like watch this. Look at this. Look at this This just sitting there with his fucking chair and this giant ass bear just comes next to him.
34:40Look at the size of that thing But it's not interested in him at all. It's not like plans Coy it's not pretending it's not gonna kill him I guess it doesn't care about him Like, it doesn't think that he's going to eat it. That's for fuck sure, right? So it's like he's just chilling. Like, that might as well be, look at it. He sits down like a person. Bro, you know what it is about these motherfuckers is how fast they can go from this to terrifying. Yeah, to 45 miles an hour. But look, he's like, hey, get out of here. Then it walks off.
35:18He's like, all right, not looking for any trouble. Just hanging out. it's amazing that the thing listens to him but they also amazing that he's not freaked out i guess he's taking a photo so in that video you see there's a ton of bears that are just hanging out in that stream they just lay and they don't fight with each other either during those situations because they know there's so much salmon there's enough for everybody so like if one of them kills a moose right the other ones will come over and try to steal it from them fuck you that's my moose and they'll they'll because there's only one food source but on these rivers there's just constant fish coming out.
35:53They're just grabbing them and eating them. They're fucking gigantic because of that. We don't know shit about these animals, man. We know a little. I just saw some shit about Florida. They have a serious snake problem. Pythons. Yeah, it's pythons. I had a dude on a python cowboy. He gave us a head. Where is that head? Do you know where that head is? Well, yeah, well, they've been trying to catch. So apparently it came from the 80s and the 90s. It was like a big python pet boom. Well, it was a research center that got hit by a hurricane. Right, that's what I was about to say. The hurricane came.
36:35They released it into the wild. Now it's a problem, and they tried paying hunters to get them, and they tried training dogs to find them, and nothing is good enough. But then they made robot rabbits. Did you see this? Yeah, they made robot rabbits and they put them in these boxes and they generated fake body heat and the scent of rabbits and everything. And it did pull the snakes, but it pulled everything else too. So what ended up happening is the snake's only natural predator was alligators. And the alligators was fucking these things up. and the snakes purposely avoid the alligators. So it ended up having the opposite effect.
37:24The snakes stayed away and the alligators were fucking these boxes up. Oh, wow. And it was almost a complete waste. But then one of the nerds, as they were about to shut the whole fucking thing now, he noticed in the data that what they actually found out, so they plugged it into AI and the AI did this whole fucking map of all the data because apparently before every attack, those boxes were still tracking movement and everything was going on. And they found out that the animals have highways. So it's not that the snakes were in random places. It's that the snakes and the alligators were using these highways that only they could smell of the quickest ways to get through the Everglades and stuff like that.
38:13and so they were able, so now they just they know where they are and they know how they get from one part of the swamp to the other and they didn't, so we learned something we still don't know what the fuck to do about the pythons They used dogs a lot where the dogs find the eggs. Well they trained these two dogs specifically but they got to the point where it's like you know, it's just so much ground to cover, two dogs ain't gonna do it and it would, cause that's the problem with the pythons i mean we could wipe them out if we want it i don't think we can well the problem everglades are so big well that's my point is we can't like the cost of doing it we just haven't found a way where we can do it where it doesn't cost just a crazy amount of money but you think about all the money they do spend shit on like if they got all this somali daycare center money back kill the snakes yo did you see ilhan omar she was reading off of uh who is that she's the woman who's a congresswoman from Minnesota, from Minneapolis.
39:13And she's connected, at least accused of being connected to the Somali daycare center. She's Somali. She's accused of being connected to this fraud. So she's reading off this script. And you know how people write World War II and they use like II for II? Okay, yeah. She reads it as World War XI.
39:38this is a congressperson she's a congresswoman see if you can find the video jamie it's it's kind of adorable it's kind of adorable because i don't think english is her first language already at least it doesn't last time the alien enemies act was invoked it was used to detain and deport german japanese italian immigrants doing world war 11 at least she caught it though I didn't know she caught it they always cut it off before she caught it well that's politics politics is fucking brutal it's gross I don't understand why anybody would want to go into it how could you say World War 11 you know there haven't been nine other wars you forgot about but I've said way dumber shit but have you ever reading off a written speech I mean, oh, man, I would almost be, you know what it is?
40:35I do, on a daily basis, I do things or say things that, like, I'm like, I definitely shouldn't have children. You know? Well, if you did, they'd make fun of you. I'm too forgetful. I say stupid shit and my kids make fun of me. It's normal. Yeah, my brain. It's part of being a person to pretend that you don't say stupid shit. But the thing is, like, you and I say stupid shit publicly. Like, we'll say stupid shit on a podcast. Oh, yeah. And sometimes you get paid for it. But I'm talking about stuff that I would be embarrassed to have said publicly. Like World War XI. Yeah, like World War XI. I'm telling you, I do shit like that all the time.
41:15I have wacky—Tony makes fun of me all the time because he's like, you're like a cartoon character. I have that kind of luck where it's like, sometimes I just have those days, man. I wake up. This happened like—member when I was—so last Tuesday, right? last bottom of the barrel, you walked in the green room and I told you, I went to go smell the candle and I didn't know, there was no jelly roll candles? And it's a bong. And I wasn't thinking about it. And I went to smell the candle and poured the wax on my clothes right before I got to go off stage. And I was wearing like light pants. So it looked like I jizzed on my pants as the wax was drying.
41:51And that's why I went home early that day because I was like, it was one of those days I woke up and the day started that way. I woke up to my CPAP machine Crashing on the floor Because I rolled over And pulled it off my nightstand And I get up to go deal with that And I fucking stub my toe And I'm like It's gonna be one of these days It's gonna be one of these fucking days I'm gonna drop a glass in the kitchen You know So you just said Let's call it a day I said let me I call it Go home go right to sleep Interesting Yeah yeah So you gave up on the day No I still I mean I still Ended up at the mothership that night But your set was good though My set was good But I took a nap.
42:27I napped till the mothership. Because nothing could happen while I'm asleep. I'm going to take a strong. Get a reset. Take this edible. Take a strong nap. Get to the mothership. Do myself. Leave. Almost like it's a new day because you just woke up. But no. But then I spilled the wax on me. Oh. So my brain was like, you don't get to cheat. Interesting. The idea of good days and bad days based on just like this is what the world has planned for you today. This is a bad day. You know what it is? is if I don't get the sunshine, like I, because I'm a night owl, which kind of sucks, but if either I need to stay up for the sunshine, because I got the blackout curtains, but if I wake up late in the day and I don't get no sunshine, I just, I feel dumber.
43:07Yeah, definitely. I do too. Yeah. Yeah. When I, if I wake up late, even if I get a good amount of sleep, like more than five hours, but if I was up really late at night and then I wake up late, I feel off because your Your system's all scrambled. Your system is used to waking up in the morning and going to bed at night. But if you stay up late, like your brain is working on like 40 % capacity. Sometimes I, because I get, I'm a big gamer. Sometimes I get it. And I'm one of those people like if I pay$60 for a game or now it's like$80, but I'm going to play the fuck out of it. Like the day it come out, I'm playing it all night.
43:43So you're playing online or you're playing the game itself? Both. Both. It depends on the game. What is the games that you like? All type of shit. Like, what's the big one right now? Right now, the game I'm playing the most is called Deadlock. It's not open and available to the public. It isn't? No. Dude, you're a developer? I didn't get this shit. No, but you have to be invited. It's a closed, what do they call it? A closed beta or playtest? Oh, okay. Closed playtest? That's how hardcore you are? You get invited to beta tests? Oh, yeah. I got a bunch of nerdy friends. Wow. Yeah. Actually, one of my little nerd groups is like, it's through one of the servers at the Mother shit, we all game.
44:20We on the same Discord. We'll get on there. Because it's nice to have a group where some new shit come out, and we're like, yo. This is Death Lock? Oh, yeah. Ooh, this looks cool. This shit's cooler than a motherfucker. Oh, wow. But it also will make you mad as shit. So it's third person. So you look at it in third person. Yeah, it's third person. And do you get to pick who you are? Oh, what is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, I think there's 34 characters. So look, that's all different people. there's a lot of information on the screen that just popped up oh yeah what's all those buddy this is what are all those things this is crazy I'm gonna fuck this up in a bunch of people okay so so basically okay so so basically so see see that bottom that bottom left number the green number 3003 yeah okay so those are souls which is just money monies are souls in this game just think of souls as dollars okay so she's got three thousand dollars and basically so the thing she just left is the lane she was in and basically how well you're playing the game, how many kills you get how many minions you're getting you get more money and the money lets you go buy those items that's what all those cards are underneath those people it tells you what everyone's bought and since this bitch got the most money she's bought the most stuff which makes her stronger so this game is all about getting the money to get stronger faster so you can win oh okay yeah she so and you like a zip line is she on a zip line here yeah yeah because if you see the see on the right hand side that's that that's the map she's so there's three different there's three different lanes you have to control right and that big that big box is like the man this is a lot that uh is this like league of legends but on the ground exactly okay i'm glad you put it like that but that doesn't help joe at all he's like thank you yeah Okay, so see the yellow side on the left-hand side of the map?
46:18Okay, that first tower is where you start at. And the point is to get stronger, get underneath that, destroy it. Then you work down to the second one. That one is a little stronger. It defends itself. That's what she's in front of right now. They're on teams. Yeah, it's two teams. Basically, you're trying to work yourself down to their base and kill the one in their base. Oh, wow. So you join up with a team of guys that are playing this online. Yeah, it's six on six. Oh, wow. But here's the thing. This is all very complicated and all this, but they just introduced brawl mode or street brawl, which is basically it knocks it down to four on four.
46:55It makes it one lane, and it gives you random items. So you don't have to do any of the complicated shit. You can just get in and get it. So you get in, run around, grab something, and beat people up with it. So basically, the brawl mode is just the condensed version of the game where you're just fighting. You don't have to worry about managing anything. Boy, that looks like it'll take up a lot of time. Oh, buddy. Yeah, because here's the thing. What's crazy about shit like that is if somehow you end up in a game where everyone knows what they're doing and everyone's communicating, one of those games can be over in 25 minutes.
47:33But if you're on a game, that's probably not going to happen. And so it could go anywhere from 25 minutes to an hour. I've seen games go an hour. Yeah. So it's like, but most of, if a game is going that long, it's just because it's either because people are playing with you. Because it's one of those things where like, if you get behind to a certain point, you can't come back. That's the whole point of the game. Oh, really? Yeah. The whole point is a snowball is like, I'm so much stronger than you that there's nothing you can do. It gets to the point where I'm just abusing you. Okay. And just because they've collected the most stuff?
48:04Because they've had the most money for the longest. And they can just keep buying better and better shit than you. And there's nothing you can do about it. But my point is, the point is for you to get to a certain point and just end the game. But some people don't know when that is. Here's a quick three-sentence overview of what the game is. Is futuristic urban fantasy New York. You're God's part of an occult ritual. Trying to destroy each other. So the back story is an event happened called the Maelstrom that— There's a whole origin story. No, this is just the back story. It opened up a portal that let magic into the world, and all of these people got all these abilities and powers and stuff like that.
48:49And there's two opposing gods in some other dimension, and they want you to summon them so they can cross over into this realm. them and and so they're so the team you're on is whichever god you're working for right and if you when you win the game that's supposed to be you completing the ritual and if you help complete the ritual you get a wish and so when you when you go to each character it tells you their backstory and what they want what wish they want when they get there okay yeah and some people don't want nothing they just want to fuck people up and how long you've been playing this game it's been probably I don't know a year and a half so it seems super complicated and like it would dedicate a considerable amount of thinking it's very complex you cause you don't you don't even know what the fuck you're doing for like the first 200 hours like it takes about 200 hours before you're like okay I kind of get what's going on this is the kind of things that people without kids say Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
49:50I just, I can't. I'm not, I'm definitely, I'm definitely a 43-year-old child. Like, I don't live like an adult. Yeah. No. I live like almost like a frat, like a frat boy or something. Well, if you could pull it off, those are, when you ask people, some of the happiest times of their life. Oh, yeah, for now. When they were young and free, especially people that don't like what they do. Oh, yeah. People get a job and they don't like it, and then they have responsibilities since they can't leave their job. Or people that get a wife and don't like her. That happens a lot. That happens too much. Boy, that happens too much.
50:25And a husband you don't like too, both sides. Oh, yeah. That's probably worse. Well, both of them are bad, but it happens a lot. A lot of people. Are you gaming one of these, Brian? Not yet. Come on, dog. That's insane. That's life. But that seems like how you should be playing a game like this. Yeah, in a dark room. Let's talk. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, but the thing is, I don't think that chair is very comfortable. How dare you? That chair goes upside down. You're laying down, brother. There's versions of it you could customize. Oh, shit, how much? Six grand? So wait a minute. This is zero gravity.
50:58Watch it. Hit the different images. Look at it. It's like that, Brian. Oh, that's crazy. That's what I'm talking about. That's crazy. But what else does it do? Does it massage? Sucks your dick. I mean, 10 grand is wild. A mouth comes out. Just sucks your dick. Yeah, I'll take that. Can you piss in that thing? Well, it used to be 10 grand. It's on sale. They have the one that's also like the bed. Have you seen the bed version? The what? Well, this one does go backwards, right? Show a version of it where it's completely reclined. That's what I was trying to. You got this shit, don't you, Jamie? No, but there's things.
51:29Oh, it's a scorpion. Let me show you something else. Hold on. That's pretty wicked. And so you can adjust that, and you can make the screen right in front of your face. Yeah, bro. I'm about to skip four heart treatments and get that chair.
51:48I'm about to be that motherfucking crazy. Oh, wow. That one's pretty cool, too. Not quite the same thing. I actually prefer what we're looking at here. This? Do you? You prefer that to the one that you lie back in? No, because I don't use a controller. The only games I use a controller with is Madden. So you're a mouse and keyboard guy? Yeah, almost exclusively. That's what I am. A little futon built on. I never figured out how to use those things. No, fuck that futon. Listen, if you're going to get... Who's choosing a futon? If you got the money for a good gaming PC, you better not have no futon.
52:21Well, he just went all in on the gaming PC. Yeah. I mean, no choice. No chance of pussy. My shit's gotten kind of crazy recently. Yeah? Oh, yeah. Did I never show you? Check this shit out. What you got? Hold on. Let me make sure. Are there any other ones that do it with an even bigger screen like that? That kind of a deal? What is the ultimate setup for somebody like Bill Gates? There's a new, like, for the F1 rig we have. Yeah. There's a new screen that's come out that's like a 100 and 60. I don't know. So that's my shit right there. Oh, you got a dual monitor setup. Curved monitors. Super ultra wide.
53:05That's a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. That's a problem. Yeah, it is. I'm going to send this to me Send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie Do you have Jamie's number? Yeah I know you have a Jamie's number Send it to Jamie Because that image is crazy We need to show people that image That's a problem If I had that That'd be a real problem Jamie don't knock out your number Don't knock out your number I do my best writing Like when I get the most done On my laptop Because I don't ever look at anything else On that laptop The only time I use the internet at all is to check things to like find out if something's real and even that i don't use anymore because i use perplexity for that now i just talk into the the phone but when if you have that much distraction like two monitors like that i'm not i would never leave i would just be playing games all it's too fun it's it's too much it's too much sometimes it is it is and uh it's a they're a fucking problem man.
54:07Games are a problem. They are. They're so good. You know what it is man? It's a dopamine drip. Look at that. Look at that setup. Bro. What's that thing on the right? That is for controlling the sound. So basically like so say I'm in the chat. I'm in the Discord chat and
54:32I got a YouTube video playing and I'm in the middle of a game, right? Right. Then I don't, I can reach over and turn down the volume of the game so I can hear somebody more clearly or turn up the music without having to open up anything on my phone. That's crazy. You are an addict. Yeah. Jamie, you don't have that, do you? I was going to show you mine. He's got, I have way more than that. Oh yeah, no yeah, Jamie's out of control. I have a soundboard connected into mine so I can fuck with people. Hey, Jamie, can you blur that top thing? Yeah, I will. It's got people's names. Yeah, but I can record live sound when someone's chatting and I can record their voice and play it back instantly.
55:18That's amazing. This is me not streaming. I'm going to start streaming this summer, so I'm going to have to add a couple of things. So you're just going to start playing video games and streaming it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can make a lot of money doing that. It's easy money, too. It's crazy because you're already going to play games, right? And I know some people just like they don't go on the road because they make so much money doing this. Wow. But the problem is how long is that going to last? Going on the road is forever. It's like, oh, yeah, but you can always do that. Yeah, but you might not have an audience anymore.
55:43You have that audience. Oh, that's true. Yeah. But they'll be still stuck on those video games. You ever have T-Pain on here? No. Yeah, T-Pain, he's like, yo, you got to offer me a lot of money. Because he still goes on the road, but it's like you got to pay him because he makes so he's like why would I leave Why would I take less money to leave my house? So he just streams? He streams. Yeah, his setup He's got is fucking crazy. It's insane. Yeah, he's like we have one F1 setup. I think he bought six He's got us his whole studios in one room. He's got the racing room over here. He's got I think probably four different rooms and different things And he'll game or he'll have on guests or he'll just make a song live in front of you.
56:25It's just his normal live setup. He's got F1 setups. He's got multiple screens around there. Oh, that's crazy. So he has a whole room dedicated. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. It's all wired together, too. So when he's streaming, how is he making money? Sponsors. I think he's definitely a Twitch partner of some kind. Okay, so you you get sponsors and like how much you think he's making Fuck I couldn't I don't even I mean if I had to speculate yeah speculate I would say he's probably make pulling in at least A quarter million a month or something like that probably more than that just playing video games Just just streaming he only have to play video games.
57:09Sometimes he's just talking That's crazy just well. There's a lot of that right a lot of streamers Yeah, that there's a lot of political streamers. There's just talk There's different people that do different things. They call them IRL streamers. There's nuisance streamers. Nuisance? Yeah, they just walk around. Just fuck with people? Fuck with people, yeah. We got two drip simulators, two circuit racing simulators, and one flight simulator down there. So this is the VR room. Wow. The computer I play on is right here. Step down here. Whoa. It's VR. We got sensors in the room. This is the workshop.
57:41It was just a utility room, but I was like, why not put 3D printers in there? This is the plug. 3D printers? As you can see, I took a lot of inspiration from Tron. That's amazing. And he's married, though. Yeah, but he's making money. How's his wife going to complain? You want to go shopping? Listen, lady, this is how we make the money for you to go shopping. You're right. You're right. I mean, she can't complain if that's what you actually earn money at. My wife used to complain about the podcast before it started making money. Really? Well, she was like, you don't have to do that. I was like, I do.
58:13I have to do it. I told people I'd be doing it on Monday at X amount of whatever whatever time it was But that's just always how long until you were like This is making money. Oh, it took years. I didn't even try. I never tried to make any money with it I always did it for free. I did it for fun for how many years. I didn't make money for years. Oh, wow Zero money for years. I never even thought of it making money. It was just for fun I would just have everybody come over like segura would come over eddie bravo would come over joey would come over Duncan we would just talk shit and just have laughs It was just for fun.
58:50We enjoyed the shit out of it. We had a vaporizer This giant bag volcano. Yeah the volcano. Oh my god. The thing was horrendous I remember when them things first came out They fucked a lot of people's world a lot of people fucked our world up There's a lot of podcasts in the early days that are unlistenable or watchable because we're just obliterated and I thought it could never get past that And now they got, you know, then people came up with the dabs. Bro, Jelly Roll has this machine. It looks like a robot. It looks like a little Pokemon robot. Yeah, wait a minute. A dab machine. Frank Castillo, he's like sponsored by those people.
59:25Those things are crazy. What is it called? Peak. The Peak people. You know what I'm about? I don't know if it's a Peak. It's a device. It scared me just looking at it. Can you look up the Peak Pro? It's big like this French press. It's fucking huge. And listen, and every time I see Frank, they've come out with a new one. They have one that's like a Sherlock Holmes pipe. It's all electronic and it's all for dabs. But every time he visits me, he's like, hey, bro, check this shit out. People like him with his reason why weed still isn't legal. Well, actually, I just raised something today that Trump is making.
59:54It's Schedule 3 now. Oh, it's done. It's done. Yeah, weed is Schedule 3. So Schedule 3, first of all, it should be right with alcohol. If you're 21, leave me the fuck alone. What schedule is alcohol? Alcohol is not scheduled. It's not a prohibitive substance. I don't think alcohol is scheduled like that. Alcohol for 21 and older is totally legal. So Schedule 1, which is where weed was, which is so crazy. It's like the most dangerous. It said it had no medicinal benefit, harm, addiction. Now, I won't argue addiction because I don't think I totally understand it the way other people understand it.
1:00:33I think it's highly genetic. I think addiction is very genetic because people keep telling me that cigarettes are addictive and that nicotine is addictive. I recently got off of nicotine patches and I started taking ultra patches. Do you know what these are? Pouches, rather. It's like nootropics. It's like vitamins, like brain vitamins. Is there nicotine in there? No, no, no. No nicotine. And when I started doing it, I was like, okay, I wonder if I'm gonna like I've been doing it You want to try one here? That one's empty. I just bought these over Amazon, but I was like I've done it before when I went on vacation Like I didn't have them at all and I didn't have any withdrawals But then I talked to McCann and McCann said that when he got off of them It was like two weeks where he's like fucking super tense and yell at people.
1:01:21No, no, no Oh, nicotine. Pouches or cigarettes. He got off of all of it. And then I hear, but so my point is, I think it's a biological thing. I don't think I have the bio. I get addicted to stuff. I get addicted to doing things. I used to be addicted to video games. I would definitely get addicted again if I started playing. I get addicted to pool. I get addicted to martial arts. I get addicted to doing stuff. I get addicted to archery. But I don't think I get addicted. I probably would if it was like oxys or something like that. I think that's just too strong. That would just get me. I think I'm too much of a control freak to get addicted to any kind of hard.
1:02:01Well, you quit cigarettes like that. Yeah, but you know why it was easy? It's because I had a heart attack. Yeah, but the heart attack did it for you. It did. And I already felt like shit, so the withdrawals were nothing. I'm going to send you something, Jamie. This is kind of crazy. But I sent this to Tom Cigarette. I said, it's time to start smoking again. Because there's this guy that's making this argument that there's a benefit to smoking as long as you do it with the proper diet, that there's some sort of an actual benefit to cigarette smoking. Because one of the things about these blue zones where people live forever, a lot of these people that are living that are really old, they smoke cigarettes.
1:02:40Yeah. That's what tripped me the fuck out. Every time they go, this is the oldest person alive, they're 109. They smoke. And they ask them, they go, what's your secret? They go, smoke. I drink. fire water and so listen to this smoking is good for them top heart surgeons claim is breaking the internet clip is exploding after cardio thoracic surgeon dr steven gundry made a claim that's turning everything people thought they knew about smoking upside down his argument is smoking specifically nicotine can have real benefits when paired with the right lifestyle at one point even says about a patient probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well He points to long-living populations where heavy smoking is common, claims that a part of Sardinia, 95 % of men smoke and live longer than the women, says nicotine acts as a powerful mitochondrial uncoupler, argues that the damage blamed on smoking can be offset by diet, and suggests that we've been looking at it completely backwards.
1:03:37According to him, the real question isn't why smoking harms people. It's why some smokers live longer and what we're missing. So there's a video in here listen to him talk about it because it's Yeah, but just play a little bit of it because it's kind of interesting Credit to dr. Mike on YouTube They've been smoking for 45 years and they're living a healthy life and they say, it's because I smoke. And obviously we laugh about it because we all agree that it's not true. So why did this one case move you so? Actually, let me stop you right there. Probably it's because he smoked that he's doing so well.
1:04:15Okay, we need to back up. How do we get there? uh well i have a whole chapter in gut check looking at the healthiest longest living people and one of the unique features of most of the blue zones is that particularly the men are heavy smokers and the smoking actually the nicotine in cigarettes is one of the best mitochondrial uncouplers that's ever been discovered and we've looked at this for the wrong wrong lens we said wow, what other healthy lifestyle things are these guys doing that's preventing smoking from harming them? In fact, we should have looked at it the other way. What is it about these people who are smokers that allows them to live to 105, 110 years old?
1:05:01And when you do that, then you say, okay, smoking was good for them. Why don't we see the oxidative stress that smoking we all know occurs? Why don't we see the cancers in these people? And it's because the rest of their diet facilitates the absorption of the oxidative stress in these guys. So your state is that if you smoke but eat in this specific way, you can negate the effects of smoking, the negative effects of smoking. Yeah, what's fascinating as a heart surgeon, way back in the good old days, most of our patients were smokers. And they had specific proximal lesions in their coronary arteries.
1:05:41the rest of their blood vessels were absolutely gorgeous and they were skinny for the most part so how did you gauge that did you what do you mean we operated on but you operate on what other vessels that you saw like you would do peripheral arterial disease screenings on those patients and you would find i used to operate on because one of the number one risk factors for peripheral arterial disease of smoking. Correct. Because the smoking, the oxidative stress isn't stopped by our current diet. Let me give you an example. Okay. We're one of the few animals that don't make vitamin C. And vitamin C, and I've written about this, so...
1:06:27Should we keep going here? We get it. I mean, he's... I'll just send people to Dr. Mike's YouTube channel for the rest of it. Dr. Mike wasn't having it. Well, he didn't know. I mean, this guy's the expert, and this guy lays it. Dr. Mike's open-minded. He's probably what he's saying is making sense. It makes sense to me. It's the poor diet. That's why I was hoping that video would give me hope, but I'm like, bro, if I could change my diet, I wouldn't have had the heart attack. You know what I'm saying? Oh, so I'm going to get this perfect diet so I can smoke. Nah. I don't think it's a perfect diet.
1:07:03I don't think you just got to move to Italy. But whenever I go there on vacation, I'm like, why am I trying so hard? What am I doing? How come I'm not just chilling? Well, you know, that's the thing about Italy is they have a culture of chilling. Yeah. Like their culture, I forget what they call it, but is it siesta? No, that's Mexicans. They call it like that nap they take during the middle of the day. Yeah, that's only, no, no, no. It's a Spanish thing too. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, I didn't know they did it in Mexico. Obviously, it's a Spanish word, right? Yeah. I didn't know they did it in Mexico.
1:07:35Yeah, it's a Mexican thing. The Spanish are like, nah. Middle of the afternoon, everybody napping. Yeah, my friend went to the Ferrari factory in Italy. And he said, dude, it's hilarious. He goes, they barely work. He goes, the reason why it takes so long to get a Ferrari. He goes, these motherfuckers are just chilling. And he goes, they take these big long. Oh, it's Lamborghini. Yeah, he said they take these big long breaks for lunch. They eat pasta, and they drink wine, and they lay down. they take a couple hours for lunch and they work a few more hours and they go home they got to figure it out well i think we work too much you know and this is coming from someone who works too much but i work too much at things i love it's a different thing i think than uh most people most people are working too much at something that's just making the money and they're probably stressed out all the time don't enjoy it but i think if you are working less and just having more enjoyment in life.
1:08:29What are we here for? See, that's why I'm, I think subconsciously, that's why I've been avoiding streaming. I've been talking about it for years because I'm like, if I start making money from streaming. And then it becomes a job. Bro, I'm going to be like that. You know that fat kid in the chair in Wally? You ever see that movie? Yeah. I'm going to transform into that. Just Uber Eats. Yeah, if I just start getting millions of dollars. Uber Eats, just millions of dollars just eating and laying there. Everybody's walking to the dashboard. And no exercise at all. Oh, yeah. Well, the more you stream, the more you make, right?
1:09:00So there's people that stream more than eight hours a day, don't they? I mean, theoretically, yeah. But some people stream a lot and they don't make shit. Yeah, but that's also podcasting. There's a lot of people that are doing podcasts that aren't making any money. Yeah, so, yeah. But you got to stream to make money. You got to be on. Yeah, but it's a very specific type of audience, too, though. It's people that are watching streams. Very different audience than who's watching podcasts, I would imagine. it's hard to say yeah it's hard to say yeah because I think I don't know if those there's probably a lot of overlap in those audiences so I don't what we were talking about before with the smoking I don't think smoking is good for your lungs I think it's bad for your lungs because everybody I know they quit smoking they say their cardio gets better this stuff that interview you shared came out two years ago oh did it and there was some controversy around it well clearly what is a blue zone Well, that doctor doesn't...
1:09:55It's places where people live longer. Oh, okay. Okay, so here what it says. Key details regarding Dr. Gundry's statements. Controversial claims. In a conversation with Dr. Mike, Gundry suggested smoking could be linked to longer life, observing that some long-lived individuals in blue zone smoke. Mechanism theory. Gundry argues that nicotine functions as a mitochondrial uncoupler and that a high polyphenol diet may mitigate the negative effects of cigarette smoke. Criticism. Experts strongly disagree, noting that smoking is the leading cause of premature death and that any potential benefits are far outweighed by risks.
1:10:28Right, but they're not taking into consideration what he said about food. Despite the headlines, Gunley stated he does not smoke and does not encourage others to do so. So he's just a scientist relaying research. Yeah, so what are the critics strongly disagreeing with? So they're not making any sense because they're disagreeing, but they're not addressing what he's saying in terms of the high polyphenol diet mitigating the negative effects of smoking. Yeah, I mean, that's all he said was what he observed. This is what I think in my years of trying and using nicotine. I think there's something to nicotine.
1:11:01The reason why I am backing off of it is it fucks up my pool game. Really? Yeah. Yeah, nicotine gives you a lot of energy. And I think like these Alps, these are like six milligrams. And then there's Lucy's. I have Lucy's that are 12. But you put them in your mouth. It's like you're sucking on a battery. It's like it's so strong. It's ridiculous. They make you jittery. And jittery is not good for pool. Pool is a chill game. Pool is like you're concentrating, but you want to be completely calm when you're stroking the ball. Like your hand, you're barely holding on to that cue. I hold on to the cue like I'm holding a baby bird.
1:11:37You know, it's very calm. You don't want to be like, you know, so caught a lot of people stop drinking coffee because they play pool. Yeah. Yeah. But nicotine in particular, which is interesting because I know a lot of people who smoke cigarettes who play really well. Maybe it's a different feeling in terms of like how it affects your body. Then, oh, see, that's a good question. How much nicotine is in a cigarette versus like one of these Alp pouches? These Alp pouches is Tucker Carlson's company. It probably also has to do with your level of addiction. Some people are. Fully, yeah. Some people smoke all day every day.
1:12:14They need cigarettes just to be back to zero. John Mellencamp, he was in here. That dude just, that was one of the big things. Can I smoke during the podcast? I'm like, absolutely. No worries. I go, we got a fan. We smoke cigars all the time. So he just chain smoked the entire podcast. And he said, find what you love and let it kill you. That's what he said about cigarette smoking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a... Who's that quote from? I don't know. Typical nicotine amounts. Okay. Standard factory-made cigarette usually contains about 10 to 14 milligrams of nicotine in tobacco, which an average smoker absorbs around one to two milligrams when smoking it.
1:12:49Nicotine pouches are sold in strains that commonly range from two milligrams up to 12 or more of nicotine per pouch. CDC notes that they can contain high levels of nicotine. Pouches that with 6 milligrams nicotine or less were most common, but higher strength 8 milligram pouches have been growing quickly. Yeah, because people are getting addicted. Cigarettes deliver nicotine to the brain very fast within 10 to 20 seconds after inhalation, which makes them highly reinforcing and strongly addictive. Pouches release nicotine through the lining of the mouth. So the rise in blood nicotine is slower and more prolonged compared with a cigarette hit.
1:13:29Though total absorbed dose over 20 to 60 minutes can be similar depending upon strength or how long the pouch is used. The thing about like pouches is people just keep popping them. Like Shane, that dude just pops them every 10 minutes. He's popping 6 milligrams like every 10 minutes. Combustible cigarettes are clearly more harmful overall because smoke contains more than 7 ,000 chemicals, many toxic and carcinogenic. whereas pouches avoid combustion but still expose you to an addictive drug with cardiovascular effects. That's why I'm convinced that people that do all the other forms of nicotine are way more addicted than smokers are.
1:14:04Well, I'll tell you one thing that I felt was the most addictive version of it that I tried was vaping. Those like Escobar things, those are weird. Here's another weird thing about those vaping ones. The only good hit is the first hit, maybe the second. Have you seen how vapors act when they can't find their vape? Oh, they freak out. It is. They get sketchy. It's crazy. They get crazy. I was in D.C. last year, and I popped in on this comedy spot. And I go to the bathroom, and there's a vape sitting on the sink. Like somebody put a vape there to wash their hands or something. and I go out to the bar and I remember all the comics I bought the comics the comics are at the bar waiting to go up and I bought a round for the comics and one of them was like oh thanks man got up went to the bathroom came back sat next to his friend and was like oh bro I found this vape in there and they both hit this vape so they went he took a vape out the bathroom that somebody else was just sucking on some guy who could have been eating ass just 20 minutes ago right also it was on the sink in the back in the men's room at a comedy club That's crazy.
1:15:18I found it. Let's take hits off of it. That's crazy. It would be tough if that was my vape and I set it on the counter. I'm like, oh, shit. That's probably what happened. Somebody set it there out of reflex and was like, I don't want that shit. It's right here with all this filthy. Maybe. Or maybe they're like, I got to leave this thing here. This men's room sink water? Nah, you could keep that. You could keep that. These guys are just sucking on it at the bar. But I guess if you dip it in whiskey, it'd be all right. I don't know. Just dip it in your glass before you take a hit. Bro, you can just wait until you get to your vape.
1:15:51Because it's not like you've got one. The first hit is the only one that's good. The first hit is like euphoric. The first hit of like an Escobar, you're like this like. Oh, yeah. Everything's amazing. But you don't get that with a second hit. It doesn't like maintain. After a while, you're just taking hits and you just feel nervous. Like this is terrible. This doesn't feel good. But it's the first hit. The first hit's wonderful. You know how many vapers I've had to curse out because they unplug my phone? They're plugging their stupid fucking vaper. They're like, yo, you was at 30%. What the fuck is wrong with you?
1:16:26I need it all day. Right. Don't unplug my shit. Junkies. They really are, man. Junkies. Oh, they're junkies. I see people hit them all the time. They hit them like a fiend. And you know the worst thing is the people that they try to start vaping to replace smoking. they just end up doing both well I think the vaping is more addictive than smoking oh yeah cause you can you know why it's cause one like you said I think the you're getting delivered more nicotine than a smoker will get even though look smoking has other bad shit that you're putting in you but in terms of addiction is what I'm saying I'm not saying vaping is worse for you but you're getting more nicotine and you can vape in places you can't smoke And on top of that, you're getting all these weird oils and chemicals and stuff in there that aren't good for you.
1:17:17But you can vape anytime. Right. You can vape. But you know, people are getting these new diseases like popcorn lung. Have you heard of that? I heard of that, but I ain't heard of nobody that got it. I've heard like, you know, it's one of those like, what do you call them, urban myths. There was a kid that I knew back in California. He was one of the people in our neighborhood's child. And he was 19. And he was in college and he was vaping like crazy. He was vaping all day long. And he got pneumonia and wound up dying. And they connected it to the vape. Like he had destroyed his lungs. The kids are damaging their lungs.
1:17:52But you know, I think that started back when, you remember when some people have like the adjustable ones? Oh, the big ones. Crazy ones. Because now the popular ones are like the disposable ones. Adam Curry has one of them big jammies. Yeah, one of them big rigs. Like a lunchbox. I think people were going crazy back then. Like in the beginning of it when nobody knew a lot. The real vapors, man, they still go crazy. But they're doing it themselves. They think it's healthier. They're getting their own nicotine drops. They're putting it in the thing, and they're putting their own oil. They're using MCT oil because it's healthy.
1:18:23This organic poison. Yeah. Whereas if you're getting it from a factory in China or Vietnam, have you ever seen that one? There's one video of a dude who has to test every vape when it comes out of the factory. With his mouth? With his mouth. No. The ones you get have already been sucked on. So this dude is just sucked in Vietnam. I don't know where he is. He might be in Laos. He's just sucking. Wherever this vape factory is, this dude's just sucking on this vape over and over and over again. Everybody's vape, he sucks on once to make sure it's good before he sends it out. Bro, we're doomed. So this guy's got, what is his dose of caffeine in a day?
1:18:58It must be off the charts. Yeah, so that's the other thing. I think the vapors are more addicted because they get more nicotine. They just get to do it. They just do it all the time. Yes, you could definitely do it. But I'm telling you, it's like you don't get the good feeling. Like, it's weird. It's weird. Like a cigar, like the relaxation, the good nicotine feeling of a cigar, you get that, like, every time you take a hit out of a cigar. That's not the case with a vape, at least not for me. Look at this dude. He's sucking on every one of these, checking them out. Look, that's nuts. They got to make sure they're good.
1:19:32Like, how vaped out is this cat? That's probably how that's probably what he gets paid in just vapes just smoke. I mean how many fucking thousands of vapes is this kid sucking on in a day how many do you test in a day he says around seven to eight thousand tests per day. Jesus Christ does that dude sleep at all he probably dreams and like horrible black and white like lightning bolts and he also smokes after work oh my god someone should see how long that guy lives bro that boy's already done yeah he's not in the blue zone not at all bro yeah it's it's older it's developed according to this it came around 2000 when people at a actual popcorn factory were exposed to a chemical that was causing this called broncholitis obliterans.
1:20:33Bro, look at this. It's first recognized from clusters of workers at a microwave popcorn factory exposed to the butter-flavoring chemical diacetyl. Wow. I thought it made your lungs look like popcorn. This is saying it's super rare outside of that actually, though. Cancer Research's UK states that there have been no confirmed cases of popcorn lungs, specifically caused by e-cigarettes, although some older e-liquids contain diacetyl before regulations tightened. Do you think that's like big tobacco trying to scare people away from vapes? No, no. No, I think they invested in that shit. Yeah, but if they don't, what if it's like some companies maybe don't and they're worried that these cheap vapes...
1:21:16Well, there's only three companies. Big tobacco is really big tobacco. So it's R.J. Reynolds. What are the other ones? Philip Morris or is it Philip Morris? And then there's an overseas one. Maybe there's four companies. Who's making the American Spirits? It's the same people. There's only three or four big tobacco companies. This lady, Suzanne Humphreys, who's a doctor she was making the argument that those cigarettes are probably not even that bad for you. And they see the writing on the wall. They own all the patch companies? Of course. Why wouldn't they? The writing's on the wall. They were talking about it in Canada, and now I think they're trying to do it in the U.K., where basically people of a certain age will never be able to buy cigarettes.
1:22:00Yeah, I think they're doing that in Canada right now. They're definitely doing that in the U.K., that's right. No, American Superior cigarettes are not safer than other cigarettes. Despite marketing that highlights natural and addictive free tobacco, studies show they contain similar levels of toxic, cancer-causing chemicals as other brands. Research suggests they may even be more addictive due to higher nicotine levels. No reduced harm, no evidence of the absence of additives make cigarette smokes less harmful. On high nicotine addiction, studies have found that many varieties have higher nicotine yields compared to other popular brands suggesting higher addictiveness misleading marketing.
1:22:39FDA previously required the manufacturers to stop using natural and additive-free in marketing, as these terms falsely implied lower risk. Why does that imply lower risk if you say additive-free? Consumer misconception. 64 % of American spirit smokers incorrectly believe they're less harmful, often because of their natural branding. This lady, this doctor was making that argument. She was saying the chemicals that they add to cigarettes that make them more addictive. Like, remember that Russell Crowe movie, The Insider? Remember that movie? Good movie. So we got about a guy who is a true story about a guy who's a doctor who works at a tobacco company that makes cigarettes.
1:23:19And he's specifically formulating these chemicals in order to make people way more addicted. And then he has to go to court and they try to kill him. It's like, you know, big kind of whistleblower type drama. But that was that was the premise of that film, which is also based on real life. And what she's saying is that those chemicals that make you more addictive are probably much more dangerous and that just the actual tobacco itself is probably not as dangerous. She wasn't definitively stating this. She was just saying that most likely they're probably safer for you. Well, the American spirit ones also you smoke less because they take forever to smoke.
1:23:58every time I was smoking around an American spirit smoker you'll see a damn three quarters of a cigarette left in the ashtray do you think that those Marlboros and shit like that they smoke quicker on purpose so that you smoke more of them? I think something they add to them make them burn faster American spirit you sit it down it'll go out but if I was the light of Marlboro and sit it down there it would burn all the way up Right. I think they do that so you waste cigarettes. That makes sense. Oh, yeah, for sure. That makes sense. Yeah, because they probably calculate over time how much money that would be.
1:24:35Yeah. In fact, I read somewhere that is why there are 20 cigarettes in a pack is because they discovered that that's exactly how many you needed to smoke as much as possible in one day. like in terms of how long it's in your system and when you start getting another craving you can smoke. Well that's crazy because some people smoke two packs a day three packs a day. Yeah those people are like oh animals. How are they alive? I don't know but I was getting close. Where were you at? I was at a little over like I was at a little over a pack a day where I would smoke I would go through a whole pack and then tip into the next pack.
1:25:14And then dip into the next pack. Yeah. Hmm. It makes sense that they would buy patches. Why wouldn't they? And why wouldn't they buy up the companies that have alternatives, like gum, Nicorette, all that shit? Years ago, the VA tried to get me to quit, and they prescribed me the patches. Yeah? But, like I said, there's 12 to 14 milligrams in a cigarette, but you only end up getting one or two. Right. But the patch is five. The lowest step of the patch is five. And do you feel it? Yeah! You have crazy fucking dreams, too. Whoa. You put one of them patches on before you go to bed, you're going to have a fucking crazy dream.
1:25:53And now you're more addicted. Oh. Right? Because you're not used to getting five. Now you're getting five all night. You wake up like, oh, shit. You're not used to getting nicotine all night. Ron White used to wear a patch and smoke all day. Yeah. That's what I was about to tell you. It's like everybody I knew that got on their patches was patching and smoking. Yeah. Yeah. Ron was patching and smoking. And then one hypnotism session, quit. Everything. Cold turkey. Really? Yep. That's weird, because he don't seem very suggestible. I know. Right? Yeah. I mean, I don't think I've ever seen him change his mind about nothing.
1:26:25About nothing. All the arguments that he's had with Tony in the green room. I live for that shit. I live for those moments. Those are hilarious. Ron digs his heels in. As soon as I hear Ron go, well, well. Yeah. All right, now. Well, that's not my experience. Yeah. He was wearing the patch, and he was smoking those little cigars. You know those little cigars? He was smoking them like cigarettes. You're supposed to not inhale those little suckers. Like, those little suckers have way more nicotine. You know those little tiny Monte Cristos? Those little things? You're supposed to smoke those like a cigar.
1:27:01Like, when I smoke them, I try to smoke them like a cigar. You hold it in your mouth. It's a tiny cigar. You can't tell these Texas gentlemen not to smoke nothing. Well, Ron has got amazing willpower because he got off the alcohol and just done. Never touched it again. Got off the cigarettes. Done. Never touched them again. Yeah. I love that guy. He's the best. He's the best. But it's like that ability to turn something off like that. The amount of money. How much money? Let's look into that. How much money is in the nicotine business overall in America? It's probably way more now with pouches and vapes on top of cigarettes.
1:27:42I think it's less now. But the cigarettes have probably been less. But now so many people are on the pouches and so many people are vaping. Well, the thing is, I think there's less money overall. But that's why there's less companies because they keep getting bought. Right. Because people are smoking less. The kids are smoking way less. Cigarettes. Way less cigarettes. And they don't vape as much as we think. But I think there are a lot of them are on the zins. A lot of them are on pouches. Let's guess. What do you think the overall industry of cigarettes or nicotine products in America, the collective amount of money that nicotine products in America generate every year?
1:28:26I'm going to say$10 billion. Yeah, that sounds about right. It's less than$10 billion. For the whole country, I'll say$6. Let's say$6 billion because there's 350 million people plus Mexicans. That's just for the oral nicotine. Is how much? Six. Whoa. Cigarettes is way higher. What is cigarettes? 76. Billion? Billion. Oh, shit. That's more than sports. Bro, that's crazy. That's more than football. That's crazy. It's cigarettes and traditional tobacco, which would include cigars and, like, the hookahs and stuff. Okay, but what was it 20 years ago? Was it higher or lower? It doesn't have 20 years ago from what I look, but it has grown.
1:29:15It's growing slowly every year. It's a total of$100 billion when you include everything together. That's crazy. But it isn't really crazy because it's one of the legal and socially acceptable drugs to be on all day. Nicotine, yeah. Yeah, you can smoke it because you can't even drink at work. Especially if you use pouches now. Everybody's using pouches. I'm predicting the pouches are going to go from around$4 billion to$6 billion now, and by 2030, so it's only five to six years from now, could get up to$50 billion. Well, here's the thing. They have nootropic benefits. Like, they do enhance your cognitive performance.
1:29:55Nicotine does. And there's a lot of people that swear by them, like, for creativity and stuff. One of the things that Stephen King talked about in that book on writing was that one of his biggest bumps in the road with his writing career is when he quit smoking. He's had a really hard time getting his synapses to fire the same way. It was really noticeable, the difference in quitting nicotine. But then again, his best shit he wrote when he was on Coke. He was doing Coke and drinking beer. And he wrote his best, craziest shit when he was doing that. No, but I'm going to be honest about that, though.
1:30:31Like, I do feel less creative or less, not less creative, but less, I don't know. It does feel like, it feels like my brain is working different. What about cigars? You ever thought about cigars? Or you just, like, think it's too much of a gateway? Yeah, I would be right back on it. I'd be right back on it. Maybe we, can we get some, are there nicotine drops, Jamie? You can just shoot it into your fucking eyeballs. You fuck with the pouches at all? Or do you worry that the pouches will bring you closer to the cigarettes? No, but I've never fucked with the pouches. I don't know. You want to try one?
1:31:09Aren't I trying one? Oh, this doesn't have nicotine in it. That is no nicotine. That's an ultra pouch. Don't do it. No, no, no. Maybe the gum. Maybe I'll try the gum. Yeah, I've tried the gum. I like pouches better. How is that? I like pouches better. it's interesting that like they would probably I wonder how much money is spent what is the patch what's the patch worth like how much does that generate they were trying to give me nicotine in the hospital for what because they knew I was a smoker you don't want any I was like no how were they trying to give it to you in what way I don't know if it was a pouch or gum but it had been prescribed to me and it was just sitting there And every time a shift changed, somebody would remind me, hey, so you know you got some shifts around here?
1:31:56I was like, no, I'm okay. Somebody sent me some nicotine mints, and they made me nervous. Like, I didn't like them. They made me feel uncomfortable. It was a tiny slice. Okay, nicotine patches are a tiny slice of the nicotine economy. In the U.S., they amount to at most a few hundred million dollars per year versus tens of billions for cigarettes and other nicotine products. Yeah, but you know what? But the reason they still invest in them is because every time you try to quit and you use the pouches, when you come back, you're more addicted. Right. So it's a cycle. Yeah. It's insurance that you'll get back on the cigarettes.
1:32:28Yeah. Because I bet you they probably don't track how many people. What's so funny, Janet? Nicotine replacement therapy. Therapy. The global nicotine replacement therapy market, patches, gum, lozenges, et cetera, is around$3.1 billion. Therapy. Just reading that in this room sounds like a - Silly. weird conspiracy or something like it predicted to reach 4.7 billion us dollars by 2034 but but it makes sense that they would invest in that like it's out of you know why wouldn't they it's like if they're smart business people you know yeah did you hear about that special forces soldier that got in trouble because he bet on polymarket that maduro was going to be kidnapped Oh, they found out who it was.
1:33:14Yeah, they caught the dude. Oh, no. Yeah, he made, I believe he made$400 ,000, and he tried to cover his tracks. Oh, I thought it was like Trump's son or something. People thought it was Don Jr. Well, who knows what they've done. Oh, yeah, they probably did it all. I mean, they're probably not looking at them the same way they're looking at these special forces guys. Boy, Trump don't leave no crumbs on the table. He's like, I need all this bread. I'm on the way out. I still need this bread. Yeah, I mean, think about that, the coin, the Trump coin. I mean, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's legal, but it's Melania coin.
1:33:48Bro, if you're buying any celebrity's coins, you deserve to lose your money. But I think what Metzger explained to me, he goes, these are gambling addicts. They're gambling. He goes, they know that it's going to crash. No one's under any illusion that this is going to last forever. They try to get in and get out and make money while they're doing it. It's like they just figure out when to buy and when to sell. Yeah, but there are people that think that, you know, those are the suckers. Those are who you're getting money from. It's the ones that think it. You could look at it that way. Or you could look at it as this is an effective way to pay people off legally.
1:34:24So here's the thing. I'm not accusing anybody of doing this, but I'm saying let's say if I started a JRE coin and maybe some Middle Eastern government decided they were going to invest$500 million in a JRE coin And then I announce the JRE coin they put in the money to back this JRE coin I get a substantial stake in the JRE coin So I get a bunch of JRE coins and then I just dump all my JRE coins and then it go I get I get all that money and then it goes from being worth X amount of dollars to being worth almost nothing Is that the pump and dump? That's the pump and dump. Oh, yeah Yeah, so that'd be a way I pay you So like say maybe if you and I had some sort of a deal that was a little shady and I said Brian How about this?
1:35:06I can't pay you outright. But what I can do is why don't you start a crypto coin and I will invest in your crypto coin, which is a very legal venture. And I will put in 100 million dollars into your crypto coin. And so now your crypto coin, a bunch of people will also throw money in because there's 100 million dollars in it. And they know that it's going to pump a dump. It's going to happen like the real clever fuckers. And then you just get out. So you get out as soon as it hits the peak like you get it set up so that like Maybe peaks in 24 hours or whatever the fuck it is like Let's like let's and again, we're not accusing anybody of anything, but let's look at nor are we taking notes Let's look at Trump coin how much was Trump coin worth like right after it came out versus five days later So somewhere that money has to go somewhere and so if I invested in Brian Simpson coin and then that money It got to the coin was worth.
1:36:07I don't know what what a coins worth I don't know what it's worth, but let's just say it got to its peak and then you sell and you just dump all your coins And so that you just rake in a big pile of money millions and millions of dollars and everybody else is like Like, the people that, like, were dummies, they don't get anything. And then me, I didn't expect to get any money. I'm just trying to bribe you. I'm trying to pay you off. Well, the thing is, America— Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. The thing is, America is like three-quarters scams. A lot of scams. And some people sit around complaining about the scams instead of getting in on them.
1:36:42Did you hear what Dr. Oz said? No. Dr. Oz works for the government now. um they california has a big hostile scam going on you know how like minneapolis and minnesota had the daycare scam careful california has a bunch of fake hostels where they're taking care of people that's what it is right so they they shut funding down to 400 of them not one of them complained it is like see ya and so it's his assertion that that's because they were all scams So that Nick Shirley guy, the same guy that investigated the fraud in Minneapolis, he's investigated some of the fraud in California. And one of the things that they found in some of his videos is like a lot of these businesses are registered to like a hotel.
1:37:28And like every room in this vacant hotel is a different office for whatever company. And so each room in the hotel is raking in money as an office that's supposed to be working as a hostel or as some sort of a rehab center or fill in the blank. They have all these learning centers, all these different kinds of things. And it's all just government scams, Medicaid scams. Get in on the scam. Get in on the scam. Scamming is the American way. Looking at it, how you asked, isn't the best way to look at this? Here's what it said. Of course not. I'll show you what it says after this, though. Okay. Trump's official Trump meme coin launched at around one U.S.
1:38:12dollar, range reported roughly 0.18 to 1.20. And within about five days, it had crashed down from a brief spike near 70 to 75 U.S. dollars down to a high of 30s per coin. So that's within five days. So it spiked at 75, then it dropped down to 30. Different data provides slightly different start points, but they are in the same general zone. Crypto Analytics notes Trump was launched on January 17, 2025, initially worth$0.18 per token. So everybody buys in when that happens. Other coverage in Exchange Post described trading beginning around$1 or about$1 within the first hours after launch. So reasonable takeaway is launch price is 0.2 to 1.0 U.S.
1:39:01dollars per Trump, depending on which exact tick you chose. So within first hours after launch, the price skyrocketed from around$1 to around$75 U.S. dollars. So that's when you want to get out, within the first hours. Reports the same weekend cite highs near$70 to$75 U.S. dollars and a market cap over$10 to$12 billion. A finance report on days after launch, trading started around$7 U.S. on Friday, jumped as high as$74 on Sunday. So that's when you're supposed to get out. So let me ask this. What is it worth now? That's like$2 now. Interesting. So it got as high as$74. Well, now you got to hold on to it.
1:39:43Now you're fucked. Just in case. There's a little bit more. It's like there's more into it because it's not the easiest coin to get, and how do you get it, and all those kinds of things come into play. And that's kind of what I think this sentence is more about. Right. But if it went to 75, somebody must have made a ton of loot. Right? Had to. Yeah. That's what it says. Right. 800 ,000 wallets, which could be people. Collectively lost around$2 billion while the Trump Organization and partners profited heavily from fees. Interesting. So this is the thing. Like, that's just that one. What is the worst pump and dump in crypto coin history?
1:40:21Let's look at that. Wasn't that? Let's find out. Sam Bank from Freed? I think it was him. Well, I think what he was doing, he said that if he was left alone, he would have recovered the debt and that he had been doing this back and forth. They just caught him in a moment where this one guy sold all his coins off to try to crash him on purpose like his rival. And then he didn't have the money to cover the spread. And then people wanted their money out and then they realized. But he had been they all do that. Apparently it was what his are. I don't know. But that's what his argument was. I believe is that I think he said that if he was not that they didn't interfere with him.
1:41:00Not only would those coins have gotten the money back, but they would be profitable today. See, I have friends that have profited from it. But when I hear them talk about it, it's like I just don't quite understand it fully. I feel exactly. And I can't put my money in some shit that I if I can't articulate. how I can make money, I can't do it. Yeah, not only do I not understand it, I don't trust it. It sounds crazy to me. And the people that try to talk you into it, they freak me out. Well, a lot of times they just, no, there's a new scam. Somebody in my family is getting caught up with these fucking scammers.
1:41:36But they're finding elderly, it's like going through the elderly community, a new Ponzi pyramid, Ponzi scheme. Oh, no. And basically they're telling these old folks that they are joining a crypto exchange. But the crypto isn't real. So they download this app and they're telling them all you got to do is get up every morning and make these trades. And you make this much percent of your money back. And they go, and you know what? And just so you know it's not a scam, I'm going to put in a grand for you. I'm going to put in five grand for you. but you don't realize that money's fake too. You download the app, they can show you how much money you want.
1:42:18But you can't get that money out. So here's how they get you. So they get you either way. So if you do, so the ultimate plan is to lull you into going, like they want you to log on every day and see that number going up and go, oh shit, I'm gonna put my money in there so I can make even more money. Right? That's the ultimate plan. But even if you got suspicious and you're like, I want to take my money out. Well, they go, okay, we'll just send us an early withdrawal fee. So they only end up getting a little bit of money out of you, but they still get real money out of you for no money. And even if you end up getting so suspicious that you won't even do that, well, they got you to download this app on your phone.
1:43:00And so they got your information. Most people use the same login credentials across apps, so you done gave them that as well. Right. They got your email address, they can sell that. And they have your security questions, so they know your first dog's name and shit like that. So it's like at the very least they get in the way with your info. Right. Or some of your real money. And a lot of old folks, they hear crypto and they don't really understand it. So it's easy to convince them that, oh, it's just something I don't understand, but this app makes it easy for me. Isn't it crazy that the polymarket thing for this special forces soldier, that he's going to jail for this.
1:43:37but Congress is allowed to insider trade. Oh, bro, bro. And that's kind of crazy because you can't be sure that the mission to try to overthrow Maduro is going to be successful, right? So if they're trying to overthrow Maduro, that's a military operation. They're not always successful. So if he's gambling on a military operation that he's about to embark in, he's kind of betting on his own life. Well, I think what they're getting him for is more that he endangered the mission. Really? Because I seem— Is that what they're saying? Yeah, because you're—because if we're supposed to keep our military movements a secret, and it gets out there that someone keeps on predicting when we're going to make certain movements, then our enemies will be watching Polymarket for when people bet on— That actually makes sense.
1:44:31Right. Is that really the case, Jamie? What is he in trouble for? I mean, I'm reading through the justice.gov thing. What Brian was saying started to make sense off of here, but at the bottom it says the actual charges, and the charges are three counts of violating the Commodity Exchange Act each, which carries a maximum of 10 years, one count of wire fraud, which is a 20-year max, one count of unlawful monetary transaction, which is a 10-year max, and what's the other one? Well, that's only two, but it says there's three. that's crazy because like how come no one in congress ever gets in trouble they do sometimes no i don't know when they don't vote correctly no like every year somebody goes down not insider trading they get busted for other shit yeah you're right for like taking bribes and stuff yeah has anybody ever been busted congress-wise for insider trading on stocks i don't think so if i guess there was another controversy recently uh they're accusing fetterman of doing it but the type of shit the average person goes to jail for?
1:45:34Oh my god. What? You want to talk about something that'll piss you off about somebody going to jail? Yeah. This guy in Florida, what was his name? Yeah, a few people have for sure. Really? Congress people? Who? For insider trading? Yeah, even recently. That's crazy. It says rep from New York, Chris Collins, pled guilty in 2019 to insider trading and lying after tipping his son about a failed drug trial, 26 months in prison, T-Mobile stock purchase. Definitely no senators though. Well, these are people that nobody knows. Look at these people. This ain't Nancy Pelosi. 2020 scandal. Nah. So occasionally, oh, COVID trade.
1:46:11No powerful people are going to prison for that shit. No. Martha Stewart's the most powerful person that ever went to jail. Yeah, but she didn't even go to jail for that. She went to jail for lying. 78 members. 78 members have been arrested? And one different, not arrested, but all violated the Stock Act. Interesting, which requires reporting financial trades within 45 days. Maybe that's just because they tried to hide it, and everybody else is just like, oh, I just made a good bet. They're saying just in this Congress. In April, three candidates were fined by Koushi for allegedly political insider trading by betting on their own races.
1:46:44But wait a minute. You can't bet on your own race? That seems crazy. If you think you're going to win, you don't know if you're going to win. No one knows. But you're probably the first one to know which way it's going to go. I don't know about that. I don't think those polls are ever correct. That's not true. They must be somewhat correct. In that case, they were suspended from Calci. So I don't know if they got in trouble for that. So, Joe, check this shit out. This is going to get under your skin. So this dude, Michael Martin in Florida, he made an addition to his house, a million-dollar addition to his house.
1:47:21It got approved by the city and everything. And after he put it up, his neighbors complained. They went and dug up some like hundred year old statute and and complain. Right. And so they take him to court. And his argument is, well, it got approved by the city. Like, that's why I built it. Right. So fuck them. But he but he compromised already. He compromised and he he put up a thing to block his view so it wouldn't bother them. OK. And that wasn't good enough for them. So then the judge ended up ordering him to tear it all down. Oh, my God. And he refused. And now he's still in jail. He's still in jail right now.
1:48:05Oh, my God. For contempt of court. Is this a homeowners association thing? No. No, it's just his neighbor. No, because everything was approved. It got approved by the HOA. It got approved by the city and everything. And he spent all his money. He spent all his money, built it up, and then his neighbor had a problem with it. Oh, his neighbor's a piece of shit. And now the judge wants him to tear it down. Can you imagine your neighbor wanting you to take down an addition to your house? Why do you give a fuck? I'm telling you right now. If I'm going to jail over that, I'm going to whoop your ass.
1:48:33I'm going to at least be in there for something. That's so crazy that people can take someone to court for doing something to their house. What does it matter to you? Is it affecting your view? What is it? Yeah. I think it's one of those things where it's like, technically, I think the argument you can make is that I bought this house because the forest was right there and he's chopping down the forest. Is that what he's doing though? No, that's not what he's doing. But I was like, I don't know. And I forget what the statute is that they found. His name was Michael Martin. But they found some old ass technicality.
1:49:06Right? That the city didn't even know about because they approved it. You'd hate that neighbor forever. If that guy made you take down your addition that you spent 200 grand building up. Yeah, because that's my thing. is like, how is the judge, how can you tell a man, fuck your million dollars? Right, right. That's what's crazy to me. And you got approved by the city. And he can't appeal that? I don't know. He's in jail while it's being appealed, and that's what his lawyer is like. No, because here's the thing. He can get out of jail anytime he wants. All he has to do is tear down the addition.
1:49:36He has to tear down the addition. Yeah, but if he's appealing, why would he tear down the addition? And then if he wins the appeal, he builds it back up again, and then the guy appeals the appeal. It's also saying that demo is going to cost$800 ,000. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. This fucking cunt neighbor. Yeah, you talk about being fake. What is the specifics, though? Am I wrong? I mean, maybe the neighbor's right. I'm looking to see how it went down. Yeah. Because what did the neighbor have any? How could that make sense? Yeah, it's starting off. It said the lawyer for a Tampa couple who asked a judge to fine their neighbor in contempt of court over a disputed guest house.
1:50:13says there's more to the story than we first brought you about. Of course. There's always more to the story. What is he growing? Is he growing shrines back there? He's not sharing. My old neighborhood, there was this guy who built a house, and it was just kind of flat. It was kind of boring. It was just not creative. The guy was a builder, and he wasn't much of an architect, and I don't think he hired an architect. He just had his own idea of how to build a house. But he got permits, and he did it. But I remember my neighbor complaining. And he's like, you believe this guy built this fucking house?
1:50:46I'm like, what is the big deal? And he's like, you don't think that's an eyesore? I go, well, it's boring. It's a boring house. Like, what do you care? I just didn't understand it. But he wanted to, like, start complaining and get a bunch of people to file a complaint about this guy's house. Local news site. The location will allow the occupant of the guest house to peer into the backyard and pool area of the Babbitt's home. Oh. Martin subsequently removed any windows facing the Babitz property and installed bamboo along the property line to obstruct the view of the guest house. Yeah, they were mad that you could see into their house.
1:51:21To their yard where their pool is. Yeah, that's how it started. That was the initial complaint, but there's 500 filings that they've had over five years. Oh, God. 1924, original subdivision said it was public space or supposed to be public space or something like that. Yeah. 1924. They went and found a 1924 statute. They're saying that the company he hired that got the approval did that illegally. And that's their claim, I guess. And it all has to do with, yeah. So Martin signed a contract with a demolition company and needs to pay$392 ,372.50 to Dynamite Demolition. What a great name. I want to get a T-shirt.
1:52:04Dynamite Demolition. to begin tearing down the structures. Judge Nash rejected them until last week, finding Martin in contempt and ordering a writ of bodily attachment, which orders all law enforcement to take Martin into custody and take him to jail. No one is above the law, McLaren said. So we just want the court's ruling to be complied with, and that's it. Boy. But somebody being able to see into your pool is wild for you to really go through this much trouble. She said, oh, so this general contractor, Julie McGill, is one of the several outside contractors and developers. I asked to evaluate the case.
1:52:39She says she can't remember a time when a judge told the city that it didn't follow its own code on neighborhood conformity. Wow. But see, Mr. Martin, Mr. Martin, you fucking up the game. You know what you got to do, man? You know what you got to do, Mr. Martin? Just comply. OK, because you're not going to win like this. Do what they say. Pay the money. Tear it down. I'm guessing you got the money. If you build a million dollar guest house with a pickleball court and a pool just for your guests, you got the bread. Pay that bread. And then you take the money you save from not being caught up in all of these lawsuits.
1:53:12OK. And you spend it on revenge. You hire the most cold blooded fucking creative people you can think of. And you you make this person's life miserable in all the legal ways possible and all the ways where he knows it's you and he can't do shit about it. you hire a bunch of college students you get them a prize for whoever finds any statute that can fuck this man's life up that's what you do don't sit in jail you can't not take any revenge that cost you something it's gotta be pure delight it's gotta be served cold that's what they're saying the revenge is best served cold you have to take care with the dish you can't just react it would be weird though if you always had a backyard where your pool didn't face anybody and then all of a sudden a dude put a house right behind your pool.
1:54:00Put up a gazebo, motherfucker. I'm reading more. That's not exactly what it was. It says there was already – they put together some lots to make one bigger lot, and there was already something on that. And so when he bought it, they're like, well, see a problem with fixing that, changing how it looked, and that might be with you. But here's also the thing, though, Joe. He offered to block – like put up a wall and block the – Have no windows. Yeah. Put up bamboo. And I feel like if it's a good neighbor, that's reasonable. That's a reasonable compromise. Go, oh, you know, I didn't even think about the I can see into your house.
1:54:33We'll just knock the windows out. That feels like instead of being like, no, I want you to waste a million dollars. Right. Fuck. To me, that's when you became the bad guy. When he offered a reasonable compromise and you said, fuck no, then fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. I'm telling you right now, they lucky it's not me with a million dollars because I'm Batman now. I'm Batman and you the Joker. And I'm going to spend my whole, I'm going to live my life as though that's true. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to tear it down. I'm going to sell the house. I'm going to use all the money from selling this house.
1:55:05I'm going to use all that money to break your life hard. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm going to pay people to break in your house. That's illegal. Don't do that. That's illegal. You don't want to pay it. Don't do illegal things. Let a crackhead do it. But that's illegal still. Okay. Crackhead will rat you out, too. Then you'll be in jail. Cut your internet line. Wait till you call to repair shop. That's illegal. Have them throw dead mice in the back of your vents. You can't have it be illegal. It's got to be legal. It can be illegal. It must be legal. But I just can't think of anything legal right now.
1:55:32Well, you can sue people for all kinds of stupid shit and just make them go through legal problems. Don't sue. Just have people outside with a tape measurer. If they a centimeter from the curb, call them the cops. Straight neighbor wars. Neighbor wars are real, man. People kill each other over neighbor wars. Oh, yeah. The Hatfields and the McCoys. Ancient. Yeah. I think that was over some other shit. There's nothing worse than living beside somebody like this. No. It's completely unreasonable, completely unable to compromise. Nice neighbors are beautiful. Oh, man. You have good neighbors, it's great.
1:56:08I have nice neighbors. And I have nice neighbors in California, too. Because here's the thing. It doesn't take much to be a good neighbor. You have to be thoughtful. And in the times that you're not thoughtful, when it's brought to your attention, you have to have the appropriate amount of shame. Well, here goes. Stolen hog. It was over a stolen hog? Illicit romance and longstanding judges. Two neighboring families in the backwoods of Appalachia. So here's the thing about that, though. I think this is from, is this from Malcolm Gladwell's book? I forget whose book it's on from. But there was a book where they explained that what had happened, I believe it's Malcolm Gladwell, was explaining that the reason why the people in Appalachia are so violent is because they come from herding populations in Europe.
1:56:56And so herders in Europe are very different than farmers because if herders, someone can come along and steal all your sheep and you're fucked. You can't really steal all someone's corn. It just takes forever. You got to chop it down. You know what I mean? So these people were used to defending their animals with violence because people would come in and try to steal them. Yes, Malcolm Gladwell. Yeah, Outliers. That's the book. Chapter six, Hatfield-McCoy feud is analyzed as a prime example of a culture of honor where similar to the findings in this Reddit thread, ancestral herding roots forced rapid brutal retaliation for insults to maintain reputation.
1:57:34This cultural legacy, not just poverty, drove generations of conflict. so culture of honor Gladwell argues that families descending from Scottish and Irish herders brought a culture of honor to the Appalachian mountains in these regions law enforcement is weak and survival depends on establishing a reputation for strength and prompt often violent retaliation against slights yeah that makes sense what was the name of the book though Outliers fucking great book it's a really good book it's really good it talks about like why people are successful. One of the more interesting things is about the Beatles.
1:58:13And the Beatles talks about how they got this gig in Hamburg, Germany, where they were performing every fucking day. Every day. They were doing multiple sets every day. And they did it for like a few years. And then they went back to Liverpool and everybody's like, what the fuck happened with you guys? Like, how'd you get so good? And they got so good because they were just performing all the time. I think it was at a strip club i think it was something crazy like that like they were performing music at a strip club like something weird and because of that they were just getting reps like crazy reps and i think that's the key to like almost anything almost anything and this is the argument in outliers it's like you know the 10 000 hours of mastery like that argument yeah but wasn't 10 the 10 000 hours is is uh it's not exactly what he said right it was no it's a rough because there's obviously people that are savants.
1:59:10I think he modified it because he talked about it's not about the amount of time as much as it's about the quality of practice. Right. So like intentional directed practice. Which would be like performing on stage. Exactly. What were they doing in Hamburg, Germany, Jamie? Were they... Yeah. Were they at a strip club? Something like that. It said they played in clubs and strip bars. Yeah. So there's a lot of places, I guess. So they were just going off. They were just doing as many sets as they can, which is the same with comedy. Everybody that we know that really progressed rapidly, they did as many sets as possible.
1:59:55They're hopping all over the place. Like guys in our club, like Ari Matty, for instance, that fucking dude, he'll go up at the sunset. He'll go over here, go there, go there. it doesn't show with the mothership he's just in it you know he's in it yeah you know all day and when you're doing that you just get better quicker let's get better and better and those dudes that we know that do a set a week you know come in drop in do 15 minutes that's it you don't see him again for another week they kind of like get stale they stay flat they get stagnant they get stagnant yeah whereas the beatles just got after it and then all of a sudden love love may do they just got smooth you know which makes sense that's the case with everything though but like everything you do like you don't want a surgeon that does brain surgery once a year you know you want a guy who's like in it yeah he's in it all day he's fucking studying journals and practicing with robots yeah i'm trying to be your third brain that day that's right yeah you don't want to be the fifth brain though it gets tired no yo you know what's funny is i just saw something about um He did a study at a courthouse where, and they found that whenever the judges had, like how harsh of a sentence you received was directly related to how long it had been since the judge ate something.
2:01:18Oh, yeah. I've seen that before. Yeah. I've seen that. That's crazy as hell. That's crazy. It's enough. It's statistically significant. Yeah. Yeah. Which makes sense. Cranky. Or if the judge's getting no pussy, maybe he's going through a divorce. You know, maybe his wife fucked her trainer. God damn it. Give me the hot judge right after breakfast. What if you come in and you're a personal trainer too and you're dealing with some shit? The judge's like, my wife just fucked her trainer, you piece of shit. Some people get real petty like that. They don't give a fuck about doing the right thing. Oh, hell no.
2:01:57No, they just want to feel power. Fuck people over. Fuck you. Fuck all trainers. You know, another thing I just found out about is I think that the country is Anguilla, right, Jamie?
2:02:16So you know how like in America the websites are all.com and in Russia it's like.ru. Right. in anguela it's dot ai oh which didn't used to mean shit but now now it's worth some money now they're making so much money selling domains that it's like half of their money oh wow it's completely changed the economy oh that's crazy because it seems like you're legit if you have like perplexity dot ai right so anybody anything dot ai they got to pay these people oh wow yeah Well, there's so many domains now. Yeah, just from something we didn't use to think meant anything. Because it used to be like you only had.com and.net.
2:03:00Oh, yeah. You know? You never know what the – like, bro, somebody just held up a – because I'm on one of the subreddits I be on. It's called Why Would You Touch That or What Is This? And usually the same posts are on both because people are like, What is this thing? And then also, Why Are You Touching It?
2:03:24So I just saw one recently, but somebody held up a thing and they were like, what is this? What is this? What does this? Oh, F me. And it was like, but but it was it was from. So, you know, Tyler, the creator. Yes. So he when he first came out, his group was called our future. So this is way before OnlyFans. OK. And so if you saw O.F., you know, before seven years ago, it meant that's what it meant. Right. And so it was one of their like stickers or promo things or something like that. But this was a young kid. He found it in an attic or something. He didn't know what the fuck it meant. He was like, why is it?
2:03:57Because he knew how old it was. So he was like, it can't be OnlyFans. What is this? Right. Yeah. And it's like, shit changes all the time. These motherfuckers, they got this.ai. They never thought it. Nobody thought they would make any fucking money off of it. Well, there's other ones like that, too, that are kind of interesting. There's a bunch of different ones. I'm trying to remember some of them. But some of them are like.biz. Where'd that come from? I don't know. What is that? Is that a... I don't know, but they have that. They have.biz for some. I remember back when that used to mean something.
2:04:30We used to have.org. I think.edu is still a thing. Remember when people sell websites for a lot of money so people would buy a bunch of domains and hold on to them like business. I think business.com sold for a ton of money. Yeah. But now, I think it's hard to do that now. Yeah, what kind of business do you have that people are just looking up business.com? Why is that even worth anything? You know what I mean? That's like eating.com is worth money. I don't know if you remember back when whitehouse.com was a porn site. Was it? The actual site, it's always been whitehouse.gov. But that was back when people didn't know.
2:05:06So whenever anyone was looking for the White House, they go whitehouse.com, they go to this porn site. Do you know what Red Band did? No. Do you know the Pepsi Spice thing? No. What is Pepsi Spice? One of Red Band's greatest trolls was he bought PepsiSpice.com. So Pepsi Spice was a type of Pepsi that came out. And so Red Band bought PepsiSpice.com and then he started documenting how he was drinking Pepsi Spice and he was having bloody diarrhea. That's all he was drinking. He was dying. He was getting cancer. It's like the fucking craziest thing. I mean, 14 years ago. So play that full screen. 169 So he's losing weight Hi this is Brian from pepsispice.com A lot of people wouldn't believe me So that's why I'm making this video My pee has actually turned Not yellow not white But it's And I'm not making this shit up That's why I'm filming using this Canon camera The S 4 megapixel camera That's how old this is Toilet I'm going to pee See he's like Pretending that his pee is bloody Oh this guy He's so silly he just kept doing it Like it got worse and worse and worse And eventually Pepsi Spice bought it from him The hardest part to believe about that video was the 170 pounds.
2:06:45Oh, he was really skinny at one point in time. Wow. Yeah. Brian, at one point in time, got real heavy and then went on a crazy fitness kick. He got a stair climber in his house, and he was fucking riding that bitch every day, and he lost a ton of weight. And he had a photo of him with his old jeans. This is a Pepsi Spice Project. Pepsi Spice Project. he's so silly but this one man he committed a lot of fucking time to this it was very funny like i remember reading it and like dying laughing i'm like you're so ridiculous yeah well you know if red if red band decides fuck you he can really elevate to like a 50 cent level of of pettiness oh yeah yeah but this wasn't even fuck you this is just him having fun Did they come after him?
2:07:36I think eventually they did. But the thing was, they were too stupid to buy PepsiSpice.com when they had Pepsi Spice. You got to buy that. Who the fuck? You should fire somebody. Somebody in your organization is slipping because he didn't know that Pepsi Spice was going to be a thing until after you released it. So the fact that you knew that you were going to release Pepsi Spice and you didn't buy up PepsiSpice.com is kind of crazy. That is kind of crazy. Kind of ridiculous. Yeah. That's just shitty planning. That's whoever works for it. They deserve whatever he did. Yeah, I try to get, because all my social media stuff is BS, and I try to get BS.com or BScomedian.com or something like that.
2:08:18And somebody already owns it. It's like a Canadian improv group or something. Oh, interesting. And I was like, well, I'll buy it from you. And the price they said was so crazy that I was like, what? How much? I want to say they asked for like$10 ,000 or something. And this was back when I, that was, like I wouldn't pay that now, but back then I didn't even have it. Right. I was like, what? $10 ,000 is crazy for a website? Because it wasn't like they were doing tons of business through this website. Were they using it at all? How much would you have paid for it? Back then? Yeah. I would have gave them$1 ,000.
2:08:56$1 ,000. If they said$2 ,000, no way? Maybe. maybe 1500 with a best and final I think today though all anybody does is do a search of your name and then they find your website like if Sony wants to find your website they just search and it's right there oh yeah but part of me always wants everything to be the same and it ended up not being that way anyway because my TikTok is a different thing than everything else everything is BS comedian except that it's interesting that you have TikTok don't you worry about the terms of service like all the access they have to your phone and access to computers around your network and all that shit?
2:09:31The Chinese? Mm-hmm. I mean. Well, now it's not the Chinese anymore now. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's like, you know, for me, I've never. Now it's the Ellisons. I've never, because once Edward Snowden told us what was up, I'm like, they all, who gives a fuck? I care who's spying. I'm getting spied on no matter what I'm doing. Yeah. Yeah, what the Chinese is going to do to me? They're going to be like, oh, he's. Basically, they have everything that you've ever done and they only use it if they catch you. So if they're looking for something, like say if you run for congress and you do some insider trading you do something shitty and they come after you then they go oh brian it's interesting because we have a voicemail that you left on someone's when you were talking about they got that shit though they already got it those have stuff somebody got arrested today from um fauci's administration see that's why They arrested the first guy who was involved in the cover-up of the lab leak theory.
2:10:28And he was using a Gmail account to avoid Freedom of Information Act requests. So he was using Gmail instead of – this is allegedly – I don't know what the reality of all this is, obviously. But I'll just read about it today. Ex-Fauci top advisor indicted over alleged COVID cover-up. Hidden emails. David Morens allegedly received gifts, including wine and high-end meals from a collaborator, prosecutors say. Uh-oh. See, this is why I don't believe in incognito mode. Yeah, it's all bullshit. I'm like, yo, jerk off on your mane and delete that shit out your history. Because all incognito mode is is just you going, hey, Google, this is the stuff I don't want nobody to know about.
2:11:12Exactly. Just making it easier for them. And then they put it in a file. He served for years as a top advisor with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, indicted and is accused. Your phone's talking to you, dog. Google's like, you can trust me. Yeah, Google's like, hey, I know incognito mode is legit. Incognito mode. So he was using his personal email account to evade federal transparency laws and shield key discussions from Freedom of Information Act requests, according to the DOJ indictment unsealed. It was also apparently bragging about it, allegedly. Alleged that Marenz conspired with others during the pandemic to hide communications related to a controversial coronavirus research grant that involved collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology in China.
2:12:10The grant was later terminated amid scrutiny of whether COVID-19 may have originated from a lab leak. Isn't it amazing that— But did he—how did they catch him? Did he— Well, I mean, they can't get Fauci, right? This is the thing because they wanted to get Fauci. That's why the Biden administration gave him a pardon from 2014 on, which is really kind of wild. Federal prosecutors also claim that Moran's received gifts from a collaborator, including wine and offers of high end meals, and later took steps to justify these perks by contributing to a scientific publication supporting the theory that COVID-19 emerged naturally.
2:12:49rather than from the Wuhan lab. So they bribed him to get him to do this, allegedly. He's one of, I think, a bunch of people that are going to wind up going down. There's too many people that are pissed off. There's too many people. I mean, too much money got lost. Too many people wound up dying. Wait a minute. Why do you think anybody's going to go to prison? They never go to prison. No, you don't know. This is a new thing. I mean, this kind of thing is a new thing. and there's enough people that want heads to roll. This is a weird thing. I mean, this is a weird thing where they shut the whole country down.
2:13:22If you find out that these people actually paid to have this virus engineered and they were lying about it and hiding it and covering it up. Oh, I see. That's not what I took from that. The virus came from the Wuhan lab, okay? These people were hiding the fact that they were funding the Wuhan lab. They were funding the creation of this virus. He was part of a group that was funding them. And he was also, allegedly, being bribed with things to promote the idea that it came from naturally, from natural spillover, versus from a lab leak. Allegedly. Who's alleging? Whoever the prosecutors are. I mean, I don't know.
2:14:01I don't know what's going on. I don't know what they know and what they don't know. But I do know that, obviously, there was a concerted effort to make it seem like this came naturally and not from the Wuhan lab. There was a giant effort, which is why on YouTube, if you had posted during, like, 2020 about a lab leak. If you said, I think it came from a lab, they would literally pull you off of YouTube. They would kick you off of Twitter back then. Before Elon bought Twitter, they would kick you off Twitter if you were going on and on about it, this is a lab leak. We living in them times, man. A hypothetical could fuck your world up.
2:14:33You can't even chew on it. You can't even play devil's advocate. Well, you can now. You can now because of Twitter, because Elon bought it. But before then, when the government was essentially in control, I mean, the government was conspiring to control and to limit. Can you talk shit about him? About Elon? Yeah. People do all day. All day. Yeah. All over Twitter. In his defense. I mean, I'm sure he blocks them. But I mean, he can block somebody. But people talk mad shit about him. Bro, that motherfucker be on Twitter way too much for how rich he is. Not only that, how busy he is. I don't understand it.
2:15:09A boy busy tweeting. What's he doing? But he's busy making rockets and shit. I mean, I don't understand it. I don't know how he has the time. I can't do it. He ain't making the rockets. He got, like, slaves or whatever. I don't know. I'm sure he got, like, geniuses chained. He does, but he's in charge of a lot of it, man. I went to the rocket factory during the launch. Jamie went, too. We all went and watched SpaceX launch. We went down to the Gulf, right? Yeah, they're the main guys. Bro, you know, they just launched, or they're going to launch on SpaceX. They're going to launch the new telescope.
2:15:43Yes. The Nancy Grace Roman, the Roman, the Roman telescope. Ooh, this motherfucker is. These new telescopes are kind of crazy because the more they find out, the more they find out that like, oh, we didn't know that. What's crazy about this one is how fast they built it. And this is the craziest part. It's under budget. So they built it faster than they said for less than what they said. And what is the power of this one as opposed to like the James Webb? apparently so i was i was listening to this shit i was fascinated earlier but but uh they're saying so they weren't comparing it to the james web they're comparing it to the hubble to hubble uh because the james webb is is more infrared this is more like the hubble like it's but the it it takes a pictures at the same resolution as the hubble but way way bigger So they were saying that there is not a screen that exists that you could display the picture on.
2:16:43Yeah, it's a wide field instrument, whereas the James telescope is near infrared. Interesting. So what is this going to be able to detect that the James Webb can't? Exoplanets is one of the big ones. Oh, shit. Like way, way, way, way more than we can right now. Imagine if they find exoplanets and you could see lights on them. like a city well I don't know if that's possible one day just imagine imagine how crazy fucking crazy that would be so see how huge holy shit compares more to the Hubble I think than the James Webb and the type of telescope it is the amount of information that it can take in they're finding shit from the James Webb that's freaking them out they're finding things that make them question the age of the universe itself.
2:17:34And this thing is going to do, like, we, because I don't know if you remember this, but the first time I was on this pod, I told you about the James Webb. Wait, like, a year and a half before it came out. What were you telling me about? I was just telling you that it existed. Right. That it was going to change everything. Yeah. And. It has. And this one is going to do the same thing. The formation of galaxies is freaking them out. They find these galaxies that are formed way too quickly, so they're confused. And now they're starting to, Are we wrong about how long it takes to form a galaxy or are we wrong about the age of the universe?
2:18:08Yeah. I mean, we're wrong about everything. I mean, we're wrong about a lot of things. But you know the thing about scientists love being wrong. Yeah, they do. Well, especially these kind of scientists. They love new discoveries. Like, oh, more questions. They're not dogmatic. Also, it's very difficult to argue when you get the data back from these things. I mean, it is what it is. We were talking about this recently that they found a black hole that's bigger than our galaxy. Oh, well, yeah. What? Well, I think you were sending me that. I think you sent me that. Something. Or it may not be bigger than our galaxy or it's commensurate with our galaxy.
2:18:44It's like there's one that they found that was bigger than our entire solar system. It was ton something. Ton 618. It's bigger than the solar system. But that's one. But there was the alpha. What was the other one that we looked at the other day? And then we brought it up the other day. There's one that's even larger than that. Like, they keep finding these ones that are just impossibly big. Yeah, because it would have to have been primordial, right? Like, it would have to have formed. But this was the question. They said that it was so big, it didn't make sense that it had enough time to suck up enough stars to get that big.
2:19:19That was the problem. Right. They were like, there's not enough time from the birth of the universe for this thing to exist and be this big. Yeah, because it would have had to have started at a time where the matter wasn't close enough together to even form things. Oh, it's so fucked up. It's so crazy. Yeah. Just the idea of a black hole bigger than all the way out to Pluto. A black hole. Here's the real sad thing. There's a lot of things that are just not knowable to us. Like, we just will never know. Right. And we just got to accept it. Every time you hear them talk about how we're expanding, the universe is expanding so rapidly that eventually it's going to be, because it's speeding up.
2:20:00So eventually it's going to be expanding close to the speed of light. Right. And so it's like at some point, if there's still people on Earth by then, at some point there's not going to be any stars. It's going to be expanding so rapidly that when you look up at the sky, you're not going to see anything. Like they're gonna think that everything outside our galaxy doesn't exist. They all died off. They're gonna see stars, but they're not gonna know that there's other galaxies. Because the light won't be reaching us. Wow. So imagine the stuff that we can't know now. That we already be on what we could even know.
2:20:39I think it's called Phoenix. I think that was the... They were both part of the same thing. It's the same thing? I'm looking at everything about ton 6118 says it's the biggest thing they've ever found. And how big is it exactly? 88. It's, oh, I just had to switch it up. 88. I just lost the, uh, mass is the size of roughly 66 billion suns, I think is what that means. I don't fucking know what that means, man. I don't understand. 66 billion solar masses. that's so crazy you can't even really imagine that do you know what they said? that there are more planets in the universe than there are seconds since the Big Bang
2:21:29yeah yeah that's Phoenix is surrounding ton 618 oh that's what it is okay so Phoenix as a quasar Our ton 618 is believed to be the active galactic nucleus at the center of a galaxy, the engine of which is a supermassive black hole feeding on intensely hot gas and matter in an accretion disk. What does that mean? That's the disk around the black hole that, like when it eats something, that's where the light is coming from.
2:22:06When did they discover this? 1950.
2:22:12Nature of this object was first noted in 57. 13 years later, 1970, discovered emissions from it. You want to really get freaked out? Jamie, look up the great attractor. What is that? So this scary space is so... So there is something on the other side of us that we can't see, and everything is moving in that direction, including us, and we don't know what's pulling it. What? Hidden galaxies discovered in the zone of avoidance. What does that mean? The Great Attractor defeat dark energy? What? No, look up. What is it? The Great Attractor is a region of gravitational attraction in intergalactic space and the apparent central gravitational point of the Lanakia supercluster of galaxies that includes the Milky Way galaxy as well as about 100 ,000 other galaxies.
2:23:12The observed attraction suggests a localized concentration of mass having the order of 10 to the 16 solar masses. However, it's obscured by the Milky Way's galactic plane lying above the zone of avoidance so that in visible light wavelengths, the great attractor is difficult to observe directly. Bro. There's no way you can know everything. And the attraction is observable. There's too much information. So we know everything's being sucked towards it. What is that? We don't know. And it's sucking all these galaxies, all these super galaxies. Everything's moving towards it, and we can't tell what it is.
2:23:46Imagine if it's your job to know what's going on in the universe. Hey, Brian, write me a paper on what's going on in the universe. Like, everything? everything it would never end there's with every new satellite that gets launched that can see into the space every new telescope that gets utilized like we're fucked here's the other thing though i i and i could be wrong about this i mean i'm been i'm wrong about a lot of shit but i think that it's it it's actually physically impossible for you to know even a fraction of the things because any device that could store that amount of information would collapse into a black hole before you could get anywhere near storing enough.
2:24:30So your brain couldn't even hold even a percentage of a percentage of a percentage of the information. That makes sense. We have pea brains. There's no way we could have that information. The South Pole, what is this? Yeah, flat earthers are going to love this. Okay. South Pole Wall, or the South Pole Wall, is a massive cosmic structure formed by a giant wall of galaxies, a galaxy filament, that extends across at least 1.37 billion light years of space. The nearest light, and consequently part of which, is aged at about a half a billion light years. The structure and its astronomical angle is dense in five known places, including one very near the celestial South Pole, and is, according to the international team of astronomers that discovered the South Pole Wall, the largest contiguous feature in the local volume and comparable to the Sloan Great Wall at half the distance.
2:25:29Okay, you just like... I just were blocked in by walls as well as getting that. Aha. Maybe that's why they're confused. Maybe that's what they think the Antarctic Wall is. Or maybe the rest of the galaxy knows that we're a problem and they got us locked in. You know, perhaps we got we gotten out before and fuck the galaxy up. Maybe. Back in the Egyptian days. Maybe that's what they were doing. Something. You see that shit? You've seen that shit they found underneath the pyramids, right? No. You haven't seen that? I don't think so. What do you mean? Oh, you don't know? Okay. Oh, you don't know?
2:25:59Kirk.
2:26:02Oh, you don't know. He should sell t-shirts. You ever heard? Oh, you don't know. They found these structures. They use, oh, God, what is it called? Radio tomography, satellite radio tomography. And it's this ground penetrating shit that they found these structures underneath the pyramids that go like over a kilometer deep into the earth. Like pillars, giant columns that are surrounded by coils that go down into the ground. And they've used this technology successfully to detect things that they know exist, like certain voids that are in pyramids and certain chambers and certain temples that they know exist underground.
2:26:44And they've accurately described these things, including they use this radio tomography on – there's a mountain in Italy that has a particle collider at the bottom of the mountain, over a kilometer into the mountain. They built this particle collider. And this thing, this information, this technology shows an accurate image of what this particle collider looks like. The exact dimensions shows it exact. And so they're using this underneath the pyramid. And this guy, Filippo Biondi, this Italian scientist that I had on the podcast, explained that they've used this underneath the pyramids. And there's these undeniable structures that exist that go down into the ground, like very deep into the ground.
2:27:27So the pyramids are just the top of this immense structure. When you said Italian scientist, I just keep thinking about him like taking a nap in the middle of the night. Eating pasta, drinking wine. Eventually we're figuring it out. So you're saying that there are machines down there or something? They don't know what it is. So they haven't really dug into the ground and investigated it fully yet. But they know that these sensors, this technology is detecting these structures. Jamie, show them what it looks like. So show them the 3D model. They made a 3D model of it. I'm shocked that we can't get in there and just go.
2:28:02That's what they think it looks like. Okay. What? Imagine. If that's accurate, if there really are columns underneath the pyramid. I mean, that just seems so impossible. It seems impossible. And there's heat? No, I don't think it's heat. I don't think that's what it is. There's a water table underneath there, too. And they think it has something to do with the use of the pyramid in the first place, that it wasn't simply just a structure, that it had some sort of a use, and that these columns were doing something, and that it was probably some sort of a technology. Look how nuts that is. Megastructures underneath the pyramids.
2:28:40Could you go back to what that one said with the, yeah, right there. Look at that. Alleged megastructures under Egypt's pyramids sparking fascination and fierce skepticism worldwide. Will you lose something? No, I'll take it by. So if it's true, that's nuts. Yeah, I mean, that sounds absolutely fucking crazy to me. I'm just thinking about the work that it would take to even do that. Right. And what kind of a society did that? And for what purpose? And it's at least 4 ,500 years old. At least. At least. Yeah. And so apparently those ancient pyramids were before we thought they were. Like I thought like the modern Egyptians built those pyramids.
2:29:23No. The pyramids were ancient to them. Well, that seems to be the case with a lot. That's the labyrinth. The labyrinth. It's underneath. It's outside of the pyramids. This is another insane structure that they found that Herodotus documented way back in, you know, thousands of years ago. But this is all Ben Van Kirkwijk from his Uncharted X YouTube channel sort of described all this and explained it. And they've used scans, ground penetrating radar to show that there's this immense structure that Herodotus described as being greater than Giza itself that's underneath the ground. and inside the labyrinth there's a 40 meter long metallic object that's shaped like a tic-tac
2:30:10so whatever the fuck that is who knows but i think there's a lot of shit from that part of the world that's going to show us that civilization at one point in time had reached a very high level like probably even higher than we are today and then it was wiped out and then we're the rebuild well they didn't cure syphilis actually bro you know there's a new syphilis I heard from Michigan or some shit from from Washington no it was in Washington Washington yeah the dude a new kind of syphilis the dude had two syphilises two different what a dirty pig he must have been and the same way that COVID was going through like genetic recombination.
2:30:57So like they were exchanging traits inside his body. Oh boy. And creating a super syphilis. Yeah and then what happened is a bunch of old ladies kept going to the ER and they all kept describing the same man and they... He spread it. He was a super spreader. He was spreading it. And he went to the ER because apparently like this whatever strain he has it just causes you to go blind super quickly and all these things. and there's debate about whether he knew he was purposely spreading it and didn't give a fuck because they told him, yeah, you got to come back. He just kept fucking? He just kept fucking and didn't go back.
2:31:35And then he didn't go back until he had another emergency and he went to a different emergency room. How many times in human history has that been the cause of a plague? Because somebody wouldn't stop fucking? Because somebody wouldn't stop fucking and just won't tell anybody. I mean, how are you going to be mad? You can't be mad at. It's five cases of rare ocular syphilis. which can cause vision impairment or blindness, identified in southwest Michigan. Michigan! Between March and July 2022, all linked to a single heterosexual male partner. Wow. Mm-hmm. All five women, age 40 to 60, he wasn't picky, reported having sexual contact with the same man.
2:32:14This guy was a freak. Yeah, bro, he was out here fucking. Fucking people blind. Because here's what's crazy. Imagine leaving the emergency room. because the first time he was in the emergency room, they thought he had herpes. Wow. And they gave him something for that, and he left. But imagine coming from the emergency room from an STD scare and going right back to fucking. And going blind. All patients were hospitalized and successfully treated with intravenous penicillin. No further cases were linked to this man after this treatment. Woo. All right, Brian. Let's wrap this up with super syphilis.
2:32:46Mm-hmm. Anything going on? When is you going to put your special out? I'm going to do that later, yeah. When are you going to put that out? I think it's going to be the summertime in July. Okay. I'm going to put my special up on YouTube. We'll come back in July. Yeah, we'll do that. I'll see you tonight. All right, yeah. BrianSimpsonComedy.com BrianSimpsonComedy.com Goodbye.
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