#2495 - Tim Burchett

26:14He goes, yeah, that was a report I did when, and because I, you know. Yeah. He's very careful about what he says, too. He's not a guy who says anything that he can't. And he documents it. Yeah. You ever seen his files? I mean, it's just, it's a myriad of files. He's very even-keeled and fair in the way he assesses things. He's not hyperbolic. The way he describes things is as clean and as accurate as possible. He's not trying to sell T-shirts, really. He's a true journalist. I wish other people would look at a guy like that and say, that's the way we need to go with journalism. A real journalist who didn't start off with this whole UFO thing.

26:51He didn't want to do it. He was an actual just regular journalist until Bob Lazar contacted him. And that story, I've had Bob on a couple of times. In fact, this is how popular this idea is in the American zeitgeist. The Bob Lazar episode of this podcast is the most viewed episode that I've ever had on YouTube. Is that right? Yeah, it's got 65, 66, 66 million views right now. Wow. Yeah. I mean, a guy who's just talking about how he used to work at S4, Area 51, Site 4, where he was back engineering UFOs. Right. And there's a new documentary that he just did called S4 where they use CGI and they made models of the craft and they made him like they brought him.

27:42You know, they used this technology that makes it look like he's a lot younger. And they showed like what his experience was. They completely recreated it down to a T. And Jamie and I got a chance to watch it with him, with Bob and Luigi, the guy who made the film. So, I mean, watching how emotional he gets when he's in the room, he's like, this is it. This is, like, this freaks me out. It, like, brings me back. Because we're talking about 1988, 1989 when all this was going on. And he really, you know, the last report I saw, somebody interviewed him at his house. I mean, he had, like, a mid-'80s Corvette or something.

28:19You know, he's not, he hasn't cashed in on it like everybody else seems to do. No, he hasn't made any money off of it. And he's still just a legitimate scientist. He runs United Nuclear Labs. He's, you know, that's what he does. And he's a brilliant guy and doesn't want the attention. Like, it was very difficult to get him to come back in a second time, you know. And he wanted to wait until this documentary was out and come in and talk again. But he got freaked out. He drank a lot of whiskey. You know, he was like, he gets weirded out by it all. It's all, like, to him, the whole experience was very surreal and strange.

28:52Well, you got to figure he's the one that escaped from all of it and is still alive. And somehow he got out and was able to do it before they could silence him. They tried to discredit him, said he didn't work there. And then I think he produced check stubs even. Well, not just that. They tried to pretend that he never worked at Los Alamos Labs, but he was on the employee roster. There was a lot of stuff going on where they tried to discredit him. But he went public because he was afraid they were going to kill him. Because the initial one, they gave a fake name and he was a silhouette and he told his story.

29:21But then his home got broken into. His car was getting broken into. He got shot out on the highway. It got real weird. And so he said, look, I've got to go public. Like it might be the only way to protect myself. And he told the whole story. And he hasn't deviated from that story. And that's what's really kind of crazy because it's been, you know, what, 40-something years or close to? These guys, they ask those questions, you know, they always, oh, yeah, well. And they say, was it red? No, it was green. And then they were adamant that it was red 10 years ago. Right. Everything about him has been that he – and I've seen there was a documentary on him, and they asked somebody to analyze him, you know, was he telling the truth or not?

29:58And he said, I think he's telling the truth. Yeah, it doesn't seem like he's lying. But I mean. Of course, I'm in the business. I'm in Congress. So he's an amateur. We're professionals up there, brother. You only think you can tell a lie. They're not very good at it. The people in Congress that are liars. The problem with liars is they don't really have a good understanding of the truth. because if you're lying all the time and you're forging this like fake narrative people see that and so that when you try to say it as the truth it doesn't come off like the truth there's a feeling that people get when they talk to you now there's some real crazy people that are that could just lie like really insane but generally they lie about a bunch of stuff they don't just have one lie from 1989 the term pathological comes to mind yes you know that that bass was this big Well, his story, though, one of the interesting things is he was talking about the ways in which the craft moved.

30:58And then decades later, we have footage that shows these crafts rotating in the direction that they want to travel, then zooming off. And then, of course, there was the Commander David Fravor incident off the coast of San Diego in 2004. And if that was our technology, the thing that puzzles me is if we had something in 2004 that can go from 50 ,000 feet above sea level to sea level in under a second, I can't imagine that 22 years later there would be no advances that it would have leaked through into mainstream technology. Well, the energy, just along with that. The energy. It's, you know, we'd heat our homes in the winter and cool them in the summer.

31:41But then again, I always throw out the war pimps. I'm not – my daddy fought for this country and I'm not – and, you know, their business is war and their business is very good. They will quickly, you know, stand up and trash a guy like Favor. He was – he testified before our committee and I was taken by what he's – I know him pretty well now. But we, you know, we had the committee, which was crazy.

32:12We, me and Luna and a bunch of others got together and said, man, we got to do this committee. This is, we need to do this. And so I went to the chairman and he said, sure. And then they sort of blew it off. And then they want, and I go see the staff of these committees. And that's, that's the, that's the real problem in Washington. Reagan said it best. Don't term limit politicians. Term limit staff. You know, I go in there and I'm told, yeah, well, I think we want to just talk about this Chinese hot air balloon is what we want to really talk about. I said, no, hell no. That's not, excuse my language, heck no.

32:48We want to talk about net gum UFOs, what people are calling us about constantly. I mean, it was just getting so much airplay. And then I was told by some old timers, which was kind of cool. They said that, you know, Tim, I've been here, some of them have been here 10, 15 years, and said that was the most attended committee that they could remember. They had to open up another room so people could be there. I walked out. I was on Fox that morning, and I was going out. I left my office at 4.30 in the morning, and I was outside. And I remember it was hot because it was summertime, and there was people already outside lining up that had come from all over the country on their own dime.

33:28I mean, these weren't like wealthy people. I mean, one guy said, this is our vacation this year. We're coming to this dadgum committee meeting. And Joe, they were lined up around the hall, around everywhere. And that's where I met Sean Ryan and a bunch of people. And it was just it was amazing to me. And that's when Congress started paying attention to it because they realized the voters are paying attention to it. Yeah, I mean, that might be the only way to put pressure on them. The thing about the alternative energy sources, one of the things that I was thinking is that if you were involved in whatever, petroleum, like whatever your business is, and there's something that's coming along.

34:08Put them out of business. Yeah. Them and the Pentagon. That was my point on the Pentagon. Yeah. It would put them out of business, put the oil companies out of business because they say you weren't even showing a dadgum hate signature. Right. You know, if a blackbird flies across my farm, it's going to put out a dadgum hate signature. Right. And through all the technology we had, as they called them, the Tic Tacs. Yeah, they look like the little men, and that's what they were. That's what Commander David Fravor saw. Yeah, and not only saw, but there's video footage of it. There's radar footage of it.

34:40It's exhibiting travel that's just beyond comprehension for modern technology, for current state technology. 100%. But if these people were working on some sort of new energy source or some sort of new propulsion system, and you've got to imagine there's a very small amount of people that are on the cutting edge of whatever this stuff is. If this is like groundbreaking technology that's not known by mainstream physicists or whoever's working on it and you only have a small group of people, if you whack one of them, you put a big stop to any progress, especially if you get the main people, the lead scientist, and that guy winds up getting assassinated or winds up in some – Disappears.

35:26Disappears. The one lady was the weird one. So she's walking with her – Is she hiking or something? Yes. walking with her friend. Her friend turns around and talks to her and then walks a little further, turns around to say something again, and she's gone, just gone. And they bring in dogs. They have cadaver dogs. They can't find her. There's no trace. No one's seen her since. And this lady was apparently, wasn't she, Jamie, wasn't she involved in some sort of alternative technology, alternative? Yeah, I think she was on a patch. Metallurgy was her deal. So you think these. Right. whatever this craft or whatever have to be something.

36:04And I said this earlier on one time, and it made a lot of sense. I was surprised that something I said did, but it sort of stuck. You know, it's like, well, why don't they just bring it all out now if they've got it? I don't think we've got the technology to figure out what the heck it is. Like, I ride motorcycles. I got an old 47 Indian Chief. If I were to take that thing back to when they came over in the Mayflower, you know, they would see it and think, well, that's kind of unusual. They might worship his as a God. I sometimes do when I go out to the garage. But, you know, they're not going to be able to adjust the valves.

36:39They're not going to know what the heck spark plug is. They probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to make a fuel with a high enough octane for the thing to kick over. Right. And I think they might polish it. They might get it started. And I think that's sort of where we're at with this stuff, Joe. I think a lot of them have something, and they just don't know what the heck to do with it. This episode is brought to you by ZipRecruiter. We've all been there, putting something off because we simply don't want to do it, and then it never gets done, or you do it poorly. Your enthusiasm or lack thereof shows in your work.

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38:39Well, that's Bob Lazar's take on it. And that was his take on it when he was working there in 1989. He said they understood how to turn it on. They didn't exactly understand how it worked or what it did. and they wanted him to try to figure it out. Those guys that came to my house, they talked about that and how something could travel at these light years. And one of them was an astrophysicist, and I don't really understand astrophysics, but it took me six years to get out of UT, and I didn't drink or smoke pot, so I'm just going to elaborate a little bit if that's all right with you, brother.

39:15Have a green shop. Technological adult education. I can fix your lawnmower. I can burn your house down if you need it wired, but I'll always have a job. So you got something vibrating over here, and then instantly it's over here. Right. And that's sort of the way they explained it, put it on my level to understand it. And to me it proves that there's a God, I mean, because it's an instantaneous travel that we don't quite comprehend. Now, is there friction involved? And that's where the – when they see these blobs out there that are floating around, that are lit up. I've had several people tell me about that, how these – there was one incident where they surrounded a group of our aircraft, and it was – and a lot of them deal with nuclear weapons.

40:02It seems that when we're around some nukes, we've had – I always remember I went in, and it's been a long time since you had a man bun, so I'm going to knock on this. I had this bureaucrat with a dadgum man bun telling me. I asked him about a certain incident, and he said, we don't have data points on that, Congressman. And I said, well, what about this deal? And he said, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, well, Google it. Everybody in the world knows about we had a nuclear power plant that had these things fly over, and the dadgum thing shut down. I mean, it's been documented. It has been documented unequivocally.

40:36And then you have members of Congress go, well, they said it didn't exist, so we're out. You know, I'm good. And I'm like, no, no. I'm sitting here reading these officers that are obviously very—I read people. God gives us all a gift. My gift is reading somebody. And I was reading these military officers, and, you know, they had the full—they had all of it. You know, they'd been serving for a while, and some of them had done some things. And I could just sit there reading them. And they're thinking, this little twerp right here beside me, I'd choke him out if I could. You know, I mean, they were just like— They were angry at you.

41:09No, not at me, at him, because they wanted to tell something, and this was a Biden appointee. And that's a lot of the times. I was in one situation, I'll just call it, where they sent somebody in basically just to disrupt, to throw at a witness. And that witness, he was like a pro ball player hitting T-ball, man. He was just knocking them out of the dadgum park. every question. What about, and he gave a date and he said, oh, you're talking about this incident. Well, let me tell you what happened there. And, and he would go through everything and it was, and it was beautiful. It was beautiful. And then he got disgusted and ended up leaving the meeting and, you know, and, and that's, they, they send people in to disrupt.

41:57They're just not going to turn. And I don't know if the fact that, and the corruption in Washington DC is not like it used to be, you know, it's not like, oh, I got a picture of you sleeping with some hooker over in Istanbul. Well, you know, oh, make copies. I want to take it to my buddies. I mean, that's about the that's about what you'd get now. But the way it is now is, I think, is that some members have a family member or a wife and or girlfriend that could work for one of these groups. And they're told, hey, you want to keep your dadgum job or you want these pictures to come out or whatever.

42:31We need a little help here. And then they go disrupt and come into the committee meetings and ask ridiculous questions to try to get a partisan fight going. And maybe some of them do it unbeknownst to them or what they're being told to do. But they do it because they're they're just lapdogs. So there's a strategy where they have a bunch of people that they sort of compromise as disruptors and they. And they are compromised. Exactly. That's the word. I was on a I'm going to say another one. I was on the Benny show early when he was early on. and um and i was talking johnson yeah yeah um and so um he's been very kind to me and so he um he asked me about how do they do it and i said well they used to do this thing called the honey pot you know they you'd go to some you go on i never go on trips the only trip i've ever been on a codel was to uh the border down here uh down in texas and i um i went down for one day flew down here saw the border saw the people coming over the border got an airplane flew home.

43:30It was about an 18-hour trip. It wasn't any luxurious. I stayed in a room that my buddies at the frat house would have probably asked for our money back in. It was pretty rough, you know. Got some good barbecue, though. But anyway, so these guys go on these trips, and say you're sitting down at the bar. I mean, you're a good-looking guy. Some girl comes up to you or some guy, whatever your interest, whatever your proclivities are, and laughing at your jokes, And, you know, next thing you know, you're up in the bedroom naked with them. And then you think, man, I pulled this off. I was at this smoke show, and my wife and kids don't know about it.

44:06And I'm just going to, you know, just between me and the Lord. And then, you know, you're getting ready to make a key boat. And a staffer comes up or a lobbyist or something. You're in the hall and says, hey, Congressman. I said, yeah, man, how's it going? He said, he got this big boat. Yeah, but I'm not for you all on this one. Okay, we understand. He said, hey, were you in a motel room in Istanbul with a pretty redhead one time? And they'd say, man, I don't want that out. It'll wreck my mind. Well, we don't want it out. We just need your help. And that's how they sink their claws into you. They used to.

44:40And they might do that now. But I was on the Benny show, and I was talking about that. Oh, man, I caught it. I mean, it was leadership and members. Man, everybody thinks we're sleeping around. I didn't say everybody. I just said some of y 'all are. I said, you know, don't – and every day you can – there's a new one getting in trouble, so it's not any big secret. 435 of us, so – You get 435 people, you're going to add a few freaks in there. Oh. 435. Group of any human beings. Yeah, any. Especially, you know, if you can compromise a man with beautiful women, it's not that hard to do. Or if they're gay and they don't want it out in their public or whatever.

45:20So I said this to Benny, and I caught it. And then about a week later, a week later, and I said it's probably the Chinese, the Russians or something. They busted a Chinese prostitution ring. And what did they list as their clientele? Lobbyists, government, employees, and politicians. Of course. And then what happened the next week? That story went away. And Benny does this thing. He showed me walking out and he like I throw a match in the in the whatever behind me just burst into flames and I'm walking out. You know, it's really cool. And he also did a song of me singing dad gum, which is my cuss.

45:59I don't cuss. I say dad gum. And he did that. But anyway, but that was my point is that they use this stuff and they know what we want. They you know, these guys, these countries, they know they own the Internet. so they know which porn you look at it. You're in the privacy of your home that you think you're, you know, you got this private name on your freaking computer and they know, you know, and so that's what they're going to hit you with. So anyway, that's, that's a long story, but it's, I think mostly it's just jobs now. Mostly jobs and influence and figuring out what you think about. You get a dirt bag, you're going to get him to sleep with some hooker, you know, that's, that's going to happen, you know, eventually too.

46:35But I just don't, I don't know if it's that prevalent. And I had a lobbyist tell me one time he was his name was Tom Hensley. He was the Golden Goose. He was a liquor lobbyist in Nashville, Tennessee, and he was a caricature of what a lobbyist is. He three piece suit, big old cowboy boots, smoking a cigar. And we were at the Crowne Plaza. He liked me because I never would vote for his liquor bills, but I never would vote for a tax on him either. So he we were there and the guy from the governor's office came and just chewed both of us out. You know, he's treating me, I'm a legislator, and he was treating me like a dog.

47:10And Goose was sitting back here, and he had that fancy Jack Daniels black label or whatever it is that the fancy version of it is, because he represented Jack Daniels, made in Tennessee. And he pulls that big$5 cigar out of him and goes, Birchett, he goes, governor's come and go, but the old Goose will be sitting right here. And I said, well, what are you going to do, Goose? He's going to shut you down, man. He's going to tell all these people stuff. He goes, Birchett, I just need one chairman. I don't need the whole in one body of the House, you know, House or the Senate. I just need one chairman that'll listen to me.

47:41And he wasn't saying he never did anything crooked in front of me and he never offered me any bribes or anything. Right. But that was a good lesson to learn as a young man when I was in the state legislature. Well, if you just think about how much money Congress people wind up leaving office with, just that alone is incentive to play ball. You don't mean you don't think we're making 16 ,000 percent on our own knowledge.

48:06My daughter called me a while back and said, Dad, and she's super smart. She's doing anything. I'm a veterinarian, doctor, brain surgeon. She's crazy smart. I married my wife and adopted her. My wife was a widow, so genetically she's not mine. But when she gets into trouble, my wife says, that's all you, Tim Burton. But she's an exceptional little girl. And she said, Dad, I think I just like to cut hair. And I was like, right on, girl. You go and do it. And that's what she does. I mean, she's going to school to do that. So I cashed out my$11 ,000 portfolio, which was a mutual fund, because I think – and I don't own any individual stocks.

48:43But I think that members of Congress ought to do that. That was my bill. You don't own – more people have played professional baseball than have ever been in Congress. You know, it's a very tight – and I tell people, if you don't get off that dadgum plane and look at that Capitol and get chill bumps, You need to get your butt back on that plane and go home because we don't need you there. And everybody knocks on Pelosi, and I know that. But out of the top ten, you know where she is in the amount of trades? Where is she at? Number 11. She's not even in the top ten, dude. Well, she should get a better PR person.

49:21I know. It's crazy because everybody uses her as an example. I know, but she don't care. I mean, if you were making 16 ,000%, would you care? I would be a little concerned that someone would come for me. She's all right. Well, it's just bizarre that it's legal. That's the most bizarre thing. Oh, it's not right. Right. It's not right, but it's legal. And I just said, look, you cash out everything, you put it in a mutual fund. And I know they got this bill and everybody's all fired up for it. And I don't know what I'm going to do about it. Which bill? They got a new bill. They don't like my bill, mine and Luna's bill, that says that you can't own individual stocks, just own a mutual fund.

49:58They're going to let you keep your portfolio. So some of these cats got a$20 million dadgum portfolio. And they made$170 ,000 a year, which is amazing. Imagine the average person out there making$170 ,000 and all of a sudden they make$100 million in the stock market. And we're involved. And not all of them are crooked. Some of them are – they are geniuses. I've been in Congress with some real geniuses. But if you see – I'll give you a case in point, all right? and I've said this many times and nobody's come after me and said, you know, they told me to quit saying it, but I don't care. I got a dad to come to the First Amendment.

50:37I don't care. They can't come to East Tennessee and try to beat me. But they if I forgot what I was saying now, man. I've lost my mind. I guess that's the part you're going to have to cut out. No, we were talking about insider trading. We were talking about the amount of money that people generate. That's where we're at. We were talking about bills. a genius really good at it yeah i'm trying to think i forgot it i've got so many one-liners in my head joe i should have written all these down written all these down but anyway um they they all not not all of them are crooked some of them are really are that good i'm sure but oh i know what it was it was it was um uh when russia and invaded ukraine i haven't voted for a dime for that it's not our dadgum war i don't i keep keep keep my dollars here we need to defend our own dadgum borders.

51:27Well, Joe Biden, for better or for worse, gave Ukraine basically our missile defense system. So immediately we had to replenish our missile defense system. Now, who do you think owns stock in those missile defense systems? Members of Congress. Yeah. Members of Congress. And apparently some of them had bought it fairly close to those time periods. And so I don't know. Are they doing something crooked? I mean, you can't prove it. Well, if it's not crooked, they know things that would help them. And I just remove all reproach. And if you've got a$20 million portfolio or whatever, some probably have more than that, you know good and dadgum will.

52:09You're going to vote. It's in the back of your mind you're going to vote to make my investment worth a little more. Yeah. So the possibility of financial windfall would probably make people play ball. Which makes sense. Which makes sense. It's human nature. You got guys up there that are – they've got expenses at home, got a couple kids in school, got payments on a house, and$170 ,000 doesn't go as far as it used to, I guess. And they – just human nature. You want more. People want more. They want, you know, whatever it is. And a lot of times it's not them investing. It's their, you know, their wife or their spouse.

52:57And we've seen cases of that where, you know, the 16-year-old kid is doing pretty well. Right. And it's the child of someone who has some inside information. There's something that just came out yesterday about Ro Khanna. And this guy, Kevin Bass, on Twitter posted this big, long, this examination of his stock trades and how much money he's made and how he's made it and what he's done. There's, I mean, it's just all over Congress. You have inside information. That's what it is. That's disappointing. I know, Ro. But, you know. I don't know if it's true. Yeah, I don't either. I mean, you could pull it up if you want, Jamie.

53:36Kevin Bass, B-A-S-S. It's Bass or Bass. I'm not sure how to pronounce his last name, but he made this very detailed post about it. But, I mean, that's just one example of one person who's profited. I'm sure it's probably minor in comparison to the other 11 that are ahead of Nancy Pelosi. I sleep on my couch in my office, and I shower in the gym. I don't have a place. I can't afford it. It's too expensive up there. I was so when I got elected with a guy one time and he said when we got elected he said hey Burchett I just paid 1.2 million dollars for this place what do you think and I know he was just bragging to me you know because I wouldn't know way I could do something like that and he said and I said well probably in a couple years they're gonna say I can't believe you only paid 1.2 million dollars for it because I've got the price of that real estate up there is just crazy it is crazy and And it's a rich man's game.

54:30It is really a rich man's game. And the problem with being around rich men is even if you're rich, you don't feel like you're rich if you're in comparison to them. And so if you're worth a couple million and this guy over here is worth 50, you're like, damn, I've got to up my game. I've got to up my game. And you're in this sort of culture, this culture of a bunch of people that are investing a bunch of money and making a bunch of returns. And I'll tell you, it was a public meeting. I remember it was in transportation. It dealt with some technology in an airport, and it was pretty cool. And I just asked the question.

55:02I said, is your stock publicly traded? You know, I was watching people see what they did, and they all looked up, you know, and I thought, note to self, call my broker when I walk out of here, you know.

55:17It's just very odd that that has been legal for so long. That's what's very odd. It's disgusting. And here's what we're going to do. We'll pass some bill and the Senate will pass another bill or phone just won't take it up, which is we're seeing a lot of now. It won't take anything up and it'll die. And we'll all go back to our people and say, oh, look, I tried to do this. I voted for this bill, but, you know, I didn't get a dadgum break, you know. Yeah. And look how tough we are. and they'll all be up at Kennebunkport sipping expensive wine and toasting each other on their great financial choices.

55:54That's where Bush is from, right? I don't know. I think so. Yeah. I think they're from Kennebunkport, Maine. Yeah, I just threw that one out. It's the only place I could think of. Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, for somebody like me, would be pretty cool. So one of the things about this disclosure thing, the documentary Age of Disclosure, and you're in that, it's really great if you haven't seen it folks and you're interested in the ufo phenomenon one of the fascinating aspects about age disclosure is you got all these insider people that are all talking about all these different experiences that people have had and all the stuff that people know and one subject came up that made a lot of sense and it was that if there have been back engineering programs, and they have had access to all this technology, and they've had crashed vehicles and biological entities, and they've been all these programs studying this for so long, they had to have funding.

56:53So if they had funding, that means they had a lie to Congress. So if they had a lie to Congress, there's misappropriation of funds. So you're talking about massive felonies. So if they don't have some sort of amnesty, and this is one of the things that's pushed throughout this entire documentary is that we need some kind of mass amnesty. I'm a very skeptical person. I see something like that. I'm like, okay, I see what you're doing. You are talking about UFOs so you can get some sort of amnesty for misappropriation of funds, and that might just be straight-up fraud. There might be fraud and theft, and you might have moved money into offshore accounts, and there might be a bunch of shady shit, And you could say, oh, but we'll tell you some very obscure information about UAPs.

57:42I don't like that term because it was always UFOs. UFOs, that's a misdirection. I hate that term. Why do we need a new name? We've already had that name forever. Let's call it what it is. UFOs is fun. UAPs makes me feel sanitized. But if they can give you some fucking, you know, semi-shady information, now you've got amnesty. Now you've got amnesty. And you've got amnesty for decades of misappropriation of funds. So maybe some of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is real. Maybe a lot of it is really back engineering programs. Maybe they really have been doing these things. And maybe they can give us slowly trickle down some insight as to what's going on.

58:25It'll probably take forever if you ever get anything out of it. But in the meantime, all these people that have made who knows how much money in shady ways with all this misappropriation of funds and now they're not in trouble anymore. Yeah. Representative Eric Burleson has a bill to do just that. And it was but it's it's whistleblower protection is the way you need to go about that. And and he can't he's tried to get it attached to bills and they just won't allow it. They won't allow it. Or they put it on and kill it in the Senate. It's the same old game, Joe. Back and forth. So then the other problem that's brought up in Age of Disclosure is, say, if you do have a retrieved craft from wherever, another planet, another dimension, whatever it is, from the ocean, whatever it is, and you need to study this thing, where are you bringing it to?

59:20Most likely, you're going to bring it to a weapons manufacturing company. 100%. And so if you do that, well, what about the other companies? They don't have access to that? Well, then they can sue. Why didn't I get access to that sort of technology? Why does this person? You've damaged my business or what have you. And also people probably lied under oath about whether or not those things exist or where they got certain technologies. I mean, there's a bunch of different reasons why you could see why – logical reasons why you could see why they would try to put the brakes on disclosure and try to put some blockades up and try to obfuscate and make things much more difficult to get through.

1:00:01I agree 100 percent. And that's why I think these folks disappearing and dying unexpectedly are delivering some of those messages. Yeah. And members of Congress will – several of the people that have been involved that are really heavily into it now, they were real skeptics. We kind of brought them in. I needed some skeptics. It couldn't just all be a bunch of folks that thought like I did. And they're now not skeptics. Can you give me some examples of how that happened? Yeah. Well, we had a committee meeting. And my buddy Eric Burleson, for instance, he was a skeptic. And, I mean, I'm a skeptic of a lot of it myself.

1:00:41But I just have been studying it for so that come along. And he, you know, he was in the committee and and he's asking very poignant, sharp questions, which is what you're supposed to do in a hearing. And he you know, he's he's one of the biggest advocates now for total release of every of everything. He's he's always at the forefront of writing legislation when we're doing something. And we're always me, him and Luna. Jared Moskowitz and the on the Democrat side is is involved in it a lot. And, you know, and other members will come in and say, hey, can you I want to be read into this committee or whatever, which means they can come on when we do the UFO stuff.

1:01:26But nothing really had the impact is that first committee meeting. And I told people at the end of it, I was recognized at the end. I said the one thing about and Nancy Mace, of course, she's involved with as well. And one thing at the end, I said, you know, I just want you all to know that people do believe you. This is not some crazy far out thing. And you all have a right to be skeptical and ask questions to your government and get these answers because we're not going to give it to you without you all being there and raising these questions. Well, there's too many stories from too many credible people, too many people like Ryan Graves, too many people like Commander David Fravor.

1:02:07There's too many people that just go, I don't know why this person would lie about this one thing. Can I tell you one that I got on? I was in the state legislature with a guy, and he was watching Unknown Aliens or something. And they film you one time, and then they use you for like three years. Oh, Ancient Aliens? Ancient Aliens. I'm sorry. That sounds great. I love that show. I love those guys. They're all great. So fun. I love it. I love it. Shout out to Giorgio. Yeah. Giorgio Tsukalus with his crazy hair. I love that guy. I think he's Greek. I need to get him to Knoxville for the Greek festival.

1:02:42But anyway, he'd be a rock star there. So, again, I'm losing my train of thought here, Joe. I don't even smoke weed, and I'm losing my train of thought. What were we talking about here? I hope you edit some of this because I look like an idiot. We're talking about disclosure. Oh, yeah, disclosure. We're talking about things that people see and credible people. So I pick up the phone, and a buddy of mine says, Timbo? And I recognize the voice. And I said, hey, brother, what are you up to? We were in the state house together. He said, I just saw you on Ancient Aliens. And I said, okay. And I thought, here it comes.

1:03:15Hey, you've been probed lately? You get that stuff from some of the gals in Congress. And he said, can I tell you a story? And I said, sure, buddy. And his voice kind of got quiet. And I remember he hollered at his wife. He said, hey, said her name. and he said, what year was that? It was when he was in the Navy, and she said it was, and she gave the date, it was I think in the 50s. And he was out on a boat, and I don't know, you know, a battleship from an aircraft carrier, but anyway, he was out on a boat, and they were arming a sub with nukes. It was in the early part of that where the subs could launch nuclear weapons.

1:03:50And they were all out on the deck, and all of a sudden, there was just a cloud over them. He said he looked up and he saw this humongous saucer in the air. And he said, Timbo, if that thing wasn't two blocks long, I'll kiss your butt. And he described it to me. He gave the color, and it was the classic saucer. He said there was lights coming out of portals around it, and he said it made no noise whatsoever. And it just sat there and hovered. and they just looked up at it and then it just went it just went straight up no noise no nothing no anything and um and they all just like what the heck was that you know and so when they get back to port the guys in the suits come on the the you know the so-called men in black i just they're just spooks cia or something told them they said this is national security if you talk about this, you'll be in Leavenworth the rest of your dadgum lives busting rocks.

1:04:55And back then, the cell phone wasn't invented. Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet. What year was this? It would have been in the 50s, late 50s, late 50s, I believe, or early 60s. But he gave me some descriptions. And after this came out, I mean, my phone, Joe, every day when this started breaking, And I would get somebody would call me and send me pictures of something, you know, that's like a reflection or something, you know. And, oh, come out to my house. All right. I'm afraid I was going to end up in a freezer in North Carolina or something, you know, be somebody's dinner. And I was like, I don't want to go out there and look at it.

1:05:30Just send me a picture of it. And every day. But then I get I got a call from a guy who was Air Force. And I Googled him. He's legit. And he told me about a sighting he had. And they were out fishing in Florida, and it was near where one of the military bases was. And this thing, and he described exactly what my buddy had seen. And he saw this in the, I think, the early 80s or late 70s. And he described this craft that was just hovering, and it was just going along. And then, you know, it was just going on a pretty good click. And he said these jets were trying to keep up with it. he could tell by the, you know, because he's an Air Force guy.

1:06:11And he was an officer. And it was legitimate. And I've since read the story that he told. But it was strangely identical. And the color, the, you know, the texture. What color was it? It was an off gray, I believe. And, but it didn't really matter. But it was just the same one that they said. Could have been chartreuse for all I know, but the size and the circumference and the dome on top and the port holes and just everything was just very, very similar to what this guy had told me about just a few weeks prior. And when you see identical things of people that have no contact with each other, to me that says something.

1:07:00And with these pilots, they're risking their careers to come forward and those engineers in age of discovery that come forward their their reputations and everything are on the line right these aren't rich people they can't just retire no and they're good folks i've hung out with them when came when they had the world premiere which was something else me standing on a red red carpet a little out of place in that at a film festival yeah no i'm sure I avoid those things. They're weird. But this subject, when you talk about them appearing over bases, appearing over aircraft carriers, appearing over submarines that have nuclear capability, it kind of makes sense that if you were from another planet or you're from another dimension or wherever it is, and you're monitoring what seems to be the most intelligent species and the most capable species on the planet, that when they would get access to something like that, like all the UFO sightings ramped up considerably after World War II.

1:08:02After we dropped the bombs. After we dropped the bomb. Yeah, there was a considerable amount of activity. You know, that's when Kenneth Arnold first saw those things and talked about them as flying saucers. Called them flying saucers the first time. That was in Washington State? Yeah. Is that what that was? Yeah. They looked like stones skipping across the way. They looked like little saucers. Yeah. Yeah, so that's where the term first got introduced into the modern world. And then you see so many of them and then you hear these stories about them flying over nuclear bases and hovering over and shutting down the equipment.

1:08:38And just the fact that they would hover over that submarine and then take off just to let you know. This is what we can do. It's probably a smart move if you don't want to completely intervene and kidnap people and shut down the government and land on the White House lawn and freak everybody out. What better way than to take something that's completely isolated like a submarine in the ocean where you know everybody's going to lock everything down top secret and just show yourself and just like, hey, bitch, we're here. We're here and we are watching everything. So don't do anything fucking stupid.

1:09:16You know, you talked about that issue or episode. I remember when they first, I've never been invited back, of course, but the intelligence committee, when they did the UFO thing. And they had all these seats, and it was open to everybody, Congress and the press and everybody. And they had all these seats behind this white guy and this black guy who were appointed to oversee the UAP issue. And I remembered I thought, I'm going to get there early, get the seat, damn front. And I sat right behind those guys, and nobody else showed up. I was the only member of Congress, outside of the members on the committee.

1:09:56And, Joe, those guys couldn't spell UFO. I mean, they were intelligent. I'm sure they were patriots. They had no clue about anything. There's questions asked about certain incidents, and we don't know anything about that. And I thought to myself, that's when the compartmentalization came to, in my mind, how they compartmentalize that stuff. Because to them, they could take a lie detector test and say, I don't know anything about it. Because they are kept away from it. It's like they're looking down the barrel of a.22 rifle, man. It's just a little bitty area, and they don't get outside that area.

1:10:32Of course. And they don't ask questions unless they're told. And if you want to keep your career, that's how you have to operate. And your pension and everything else. Absolutely. It makes sense. That aspect of it makes sense. What doesn't totally make sense is why now disclosure other than – I mean this is being cynical. The Iran war is not going very well. American public is very upset. A lot of people don't think we should have ever been involved in that in the first place and we need some good news. I think we – We need something to distract us. We need something to take our focus off of. If I was going to do it, now would be the time I'd do it.

1:11:10Yeah. But I don't think Trump really even cares. I think he just wants to get it out there. Well, I think he does too. He's talked about it. And he's also – I mean, I don't think he cares about trying to get everybody off target by disclosing UFOs. I think he cares about all of it, but I don't think he cares that if you're talking about it or not. I just think he genuinely sees that America needs to know this stuff. Well, he also realizes America wants to know it, and he's an outsider. I mean, even though he's the president, he is in a lot of ways he's an outsider. And, I mean, this is his last term, right?

1:11:48And so it's like if someone's going to do it, do it. You want to leave a legacy? Be the guy who releases all these files. I tried to kill him three times. Yeah. So, you know, it's not and that ain't no. Did you see that judge that apologized to the guy that did you see the story? No. OK. The guy who was at the White House correspondence dinner that shot one of the Secret Service agents and the guy got arrested. Yeah. The judge who's dealing with the case apologized to him for his treatment in jail. Do you have that, Jamie? See if you can find that. He should have gotten some quality stick time.

1:12:22This is another guy. This judge also released another man who was arrested for threatening to kill Trump. Oh. Trump derangement syndrome. Well, it's ridiculous. The way this guy addressed this man, it's almost as if he was condoning it. Look at it says the indictment comes the day of the judge overseeing the case against Allen Express. Grave concerns about how he's being treated in jail and apologized to him in court. You're talking about a guy who showed up with a rifle or a shotgun. Shot a Secret Service agent. Obviously in the vest, the guy's okay. But whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week.

1:13:03Magistrate Judge Zia Faruqi, I don't know if I'm saying that right, said during a hearing in Washington, D.C. on Monday, According to the court documents filed over the weekend, Allen had been in solitary confinement at the D.C. jail after being placed on suicide watch after his arrest on April 25th. His lawyers said that he was housed in a permanently illuminated safe cell with no access to personal items or jail visits, despite repeated assessments showing he did not exhibit any suicide factors. In an order issued on Sunday, Faroukwi wrote that he had grave concerns about the conditions Allen was being kept in, which he said were seemingly unprompted by the facts of the case.

1:13:46It could drive a person crazy to be in that situation, Faroukwi said during Monday's hearing. That is really crazy. That is really a crazy thing to apologize for someone who is trying to at least assume you're assuming he was trying to kill the president. The guy's been programmed to do this. He immediately turns, you know, from one way to the other overnight almost. And this is and we're seeing this more and more, I think. What do you mean? The guy's been programmed? I think these people are. You mean like MK Ultra type programming? 100%. Really? I think so, but it's a different—you know, MK, you're the expert on it.

1:14:28Not really. Well— Don't say that. No. I don't want to get you bumped off here. Jamie knows what I do about it. Let somebody else go start your car when you walk out there and wait 30 minutes. Don't make me an expert. Yeah. I know nothing. But, you know, the CIA, they were grabbing these people up and giving them, I guess, SACIT or LSD, whatever, and then programming them. And then they said they weren't doing it. And then they got sued and they said, oh, we lied. We were doing it, but we're not doing it anymore. Now, which time are they not? Here's my thought on this. I think you've got a bunch of people today because of this.

1:15:02It's just open up, open up your head and pour it in. And they can put these things out to people just enough to where they know that there's going to be a reaction. There's some people, you and I are going to read this stuff and go, huh. And there's some people that are just going to stay awake at night and just fume. I know people that read stuff, and they'll call me and text me and say, can you believe this? And I'm like, dude, man, I live this stuff. Cool out. We're good. We're okay. And I think that these folks, they know who they are, and they can target them. How many of these people are we going to find that have no Internet access, have no history of being on the Internet?

1:15:40Right, like Thomas Crooks. Yeah, that's just total BS. Total BS. Oh, we couldn't. We let him on the roof. Also, they couldn't get snipers on that roof because the slope was too steep. Yeah, we had members of Congress that are older than I think Daryl Issa was there. I know a couple other guys were there too. I mean, he's an older guy. He's older than me. I think he was walking around up on it. Yeah, it's crazy. That's bogus. That's totally bogus. They put Trump in a bad position. And that's the thing. You'll never know. Well, here's another thing we should talk about. Dead men tell no tales. Here's another thing we should talk about.

1:16:15There's a lot of people running around out there saying that that first Trump assassination was a setup and that it was a hoax and that Trump did it to try to get people to be more sympathetic to him. Anybody who says that doesn't know anything about guns. No. Because the shot was from – how far was it? Was it 140 yards? Is that what it was, Jamie? me? There is not a person on earth that could nick your ear at 140 yards reliably. Not only that, but miss other shots first, kill someone behind you, shoot another person as well, and just nick his ear. And just by the grace of God, by sheer luck, he turns his head at the right time and And it catches his ear.

1:17:01Okay, 120 to 140 meters or 135 to 150 yards away during the rally. He was positioned on top of an AGR International building, which provided a clear line of sight to the stage. Just that alone is a tremendous failure of security. The fact that they didn't search and look at these buildings, that you don't have drones above, scanning the area where you have a potential line of sight. an easy shot with someone with a scope. And my buddy Eli Crane, he's a sniper. And he said, you know, I could have made that shot, you know, because he's a SEAL sniper. Oh, 100%. My brother-in-law Cliff is a Marine sniper.

1:17:42And he said, I could have probably done it with steel sights, Tim. Well, did the man have steel sights? Yeah, he did have steel sights. So he didn't have a scope. And the thing to me is that he got up there and people were pointing at him. I mean, it was just a complete, is it a breakdown? You think, is it a breakdown? It's a breakdown if Tim Burchett sneaks into the back of a Leonard Skinner concert and gets close to the stage. That's a breakdown. That, to me, is a complete capitulation. They put Trump out there, and there's people that don't like him. You can say what you want to about programming and things.

1:18:17I just think it's out there. I think it is a reality, and I think people better wake up because Washington, D.C. is not a – everybody wants to call it a swamp. Okay, so it does have a scope. Is that a scope or is that a site? Yeah, that's a red dot. Okay. I mean, I don't know if it's magnified. It says optics attached to rail, AEMS optics. So I don't know – I'd have to talk to some of my guys out front about what kind of a site that is, what kind of optics that is. I don't know if it's magnified or if it's like pistol optics. But either way, even if it's just – if he's prone and he's got a rifle and it says – yeah, check it out, Jamie.

1:19:02I think that's just the setup, though. I don't think that's actually the – I think AMS optics – AEMS optics. The optics. modified with a collapsible stock. I am a red dot sight. Yeah, so it's a red dot. I don't know if that's magnified. I don't think that's magnified. I think that's just like what you get on a pistol. It just makes it a little bit more accurate. You know, I'd seen pictures of him just walking across an area, and you could tell he was carrying something that was fairly long. Well, not only that, he was walking around the sight with a rangefinder. Yeah. Are you playing golf? He'd earlier put a drone up, I think.

1:19:44Yeah. If you're not playing golf and you have a rangefinder, you're trying to shoot something. That's it. There's the only two reasons to use a rangefinder. You're playing golf, doing archery, or you're trying to shoot something with a rifle. No other thing. But these guys just keep doing this. And I think we're going to have a hearing on that, not on that particular case, but just on what the CIA is doing and how they could do that today. Well, they most certainly can do that today if they could do that in the 1960s. There's a fantastic book called Chaos by Tom O 'Neill. It's all about the Manson family.

1:20:17Have you ever read it? I've seen it. I haven't read it. It's phenomenal. And it's mind-blowing. You read it and it all documents Jolly West and the MK Ultra program and what they did with Jack Ruby. And they visited Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. And Jack Ruby went insane and had a complete psychotic breakdown and said they're lighting Jews on fire. And he was like going nuts and was sane before Ruby visited him. This guy was known to be using LSD on people, unknowing people. They ran Operation Midnight Climax, which is where the CIA actually ran brothels. They had two-way mirrors, and they had these supposed prostitutes give these Johns alcohol that had LSD in it, and then they'd monitor them.

1:21:01They were doing that with people, unsuspecting people, dosing them up, trying to figure out how and what techniques they could use to manipulate people and to get people to do things they wanted them to do. That's what the whole Manson family was all about. And what the Manson family, what those killings did, the Tate-LaBianca murders, what they did was they turned people against hippies. Like people had this idea of hippies being peace and love and like, oh, it's a new world. And everyone's just going to do acid and hug each other and drop out of society. Then it all of a sudden became, no, they're psychotic killers and they're demonic.

1:21:35And this is what we have to think about. We need to ban all these drugs. And that's what they did. And it's kind of fascinating that they were able to do that and do that for so long. And if it wasn't for the Freedom of Information Act request, and if it wasn't for finding those documents that they found that were just in storage that detailed all this, we wouldn't have any knowledge of this stuff. Most of that stuff disappears. I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff that we have. I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. There's probably a ton of those things that have gone on that they successfully hid.

1:22:05And they got sloppy with this, and Jolly West seems like he was a completely insane person. And, you know, how could you not be if you're like running around dosing people with acid, running fake whorehouses? I mean, it's nuts. The whole story is nuts. But the idea that they go, hey, we shouldn't do that anymore, even though it was successful, that doesn't track. That doesn't track with how anything works. That doesn't track with human nature. It doesn't track with how the government works. The idea that they don't have people right now. And also, how many people are voluntarily on psychiatric medication?

1:22:39That alters them. And then without any sort of formal program like MKUltra, just using bots, just using AI, just using people's algorithm to turn them, radicalize them in certain ways. Like, of course they're going to do that. Of course they're going to try to figure out what they can do, how they can shift narratives in one direction or another. I mean, that's what they do. And Trump's a threat to their machine. Of course. I don't ever think we'll ever find the answer to it. I don't think we'll ever – somebody's going to come forward and maybe in our lifetime they might. But by then everybody will be gone again.

1:23:18Well, where's the toxicology examination on Thomas Crooks? Let me find out what he was on. Wait a minute. They cremated him. Yeah, they cremated him really quickly. Not only that, like why was his place professionally scrubbed? He didn't even have silverware in his house. He had no computers. He had no social media. No internet. footprint at all and then they found stuff that led them to believe that maybe he had international accounts but he didn't have it you know it's just it's constant constant and it just happens over over every course every time not only that but they documented metadata that tracks specific phones from the virginia area out near where the fbi area is to his home multiple times why he's a kid he's just a young weirdo kid and someone's visiting him over and over again parents were allegedly counselors i think and that makes the whole thing even that much more mysterious it's all weird and we don't have any answers and no one's asking questions it's like bye-bye went away you ask the questions you're still not gonna get the answers right i mean that will be one of those things that 30 40 years from now people are going to be reading books about it I go, what the hell was going on?

1:24:30It's like the Kennedy assassination. You know, in the Kennedy assassination, we had a committee meeting on that. And I asked a question from this doctor who was in the emergency room. He brought Kennedy in. And he clearly brought a poster in to show that clearly that the bullets had come from two different directions. And so it had to be two bullets. It could have been a very quick ricochet, obviously. And the whole thing, you know, and no press, nobody covered it, nothing. To me, that was blockbuster news. I thought that would have been. But, again, the big boys didn't see fit to put that out.

1:25:07And there we are. Well, just the magic bullet theory alone. Like, shut up. That bullet's ridiculous. Well, that gun is called a Man Leaker carbine. I got one, actually. I think it was 7.62 Italian. It's called the only gun that never won a war. You could have gone to a Western Auto and bought an M1 with scopes on it and made a much better shot than that thing. I mean, the whole thing just stinks. And the gun they show holding up and the gun that they had later, you know, the whole thing is just screwy, screwy. Because we didn't ask questions back then. Yeah. Well, no one had information. So what questions could you even ask?

1:25:43And there's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton. And he was an accountant that was hired to go over the Warren Commission report. And he started finding all these inconsistencies and contradictions in the Warren Commission report. So then he wrote this book on all the different things that are wrong with the Kennedy assassination and all the different things that we've been told that couldn't possibly be true. And it's very disturbing, including how many people that were witnesses that died. Witnesses at the scene in Dallas that died from weird circumstances and the odds of those people dying, car accidents, suicide, murder, robbery.

1:26:19It's just too strange. And people they can't find anymore that were in those pictures, you know, in the early square. They cleaned up a lot of the loose ends. Quick. Yeah. But back then, you know, again, you couldn't ask the questions. You didn't have the internet and outs. But I think – but nobody's even talking about it. You can't get anybody to bring up anything on Trump getting shot. No. Other than they put out it's a fake, you know. His ear held itself and all this stuff, you know. Listen, his ear was clearly bleeding. He got shot in the ear. You can see the blood come out right away. It's dripping down the side of his face.

1:26:54And the idea that that's a setup, you cannot be that accurate. You definitely can't be that accurate with a red dot at 140 yards. You can hit him. You can definitely hit him center mass. No problem. Maybe you hit him in the head if you're really good and you're prone. But nicking his ear like that on purpose and to be there and say, hey, I just want you to nick my ear just a little piece. Like that's – there's no – Get off the top. There's not a chance that that's a fake. And the guy behind him is dead. So what are you saying? Do you think that's fake? That's the setup? Yeah, the fireman lost his life.

1:27:24Yeah, that's crazy. The whole thing's crazy. But it's just this thing where people hate him so much and the narrative in the media, this Trump derangement narrative that you see in the media is so strong and people are so programmed by it. And for the average person that has a very involved job, you're working all day and then you have a family and you have a life and you have – you don't have time to really go into depth about what's real and what's not real. And you got that Russia collusion stuff shoved down your throat by mainstream media for years and you believe all of it. 100 percent. And so you really believed that he's a terrible person, a Russian agent, all these – so you want someone to kill him.

1:28:03Yeah, there's a group of folks, young folks, that are starting to ask some questions. Yes. You know, my wife's son, Tyler, he lives on the farm there with us. And he's been asking me inquisitive questions because he doesn't buy it. And a lot of those kids in that generation, I don't know if it's the Charlie Kirk effect. I don't know what that is. That has definitely an effect on it because a lot of people don't buy that story either. No. But it's also the Internet. The internet has – there's enough independent reporters out there that are untied, independent journalists that are untied to any organization that has a narrative they're supposed to push.

1:28:39And they're uncovering real information that's screwy. Right. It doesn't make any sense. Well, and also when they do though, they get trounced upon by the so-called mainstream media. Of course. But they're numbers. I mean, my gosh, I read somewhere that the amount of that the amount of media or the amount of information people get from the mainstream media is just it's diminishing. Well, COVID sunk them the way they handled COVID and the way they carried water for the pharmaceutical drug industry. And Fauci and Fauci. And now he's going to walk. Is he going to walk? Because there's some talk about him possibly being set up for perjury.

1:29:15But there's only a week to go. Yeah, it's a week to go. I just don't. He'll get a stern letter from somebody in Washington. Oh. That drives me crazy, man. I saw, you know, the big boys, you'd go down to the big hardware chain, and they were allowing people to go in, but they closed down the little local ones, and they closed the churches and the synagogues and everybody down. Yep. And then we just all got in line. They just rang the bell, and we're like Pavlov's dog, and we just all got in line. I remember at my hospital in Knoxville, one of them, I came out there to get tested. I got tested. I can't tell how many times I got tested and I never tested positive.

1:29:48I've never took the vaccine or any of that. But I can remember coming out there and they had these morgues they were setting up just in anticipation of what. And I just thought, man, this is if this doesn't work out, this is the ultimate psyop because people are going to get rich off this crazy thing. And they did. You know, we. Greatest transfer of wealth. Unbelievably. Unbelievably. And Congress just did it. We just did it and didn't ask any questions. Well, it seems like there's a real pandemic right now on this cruise ship. You know about that Hentavirus? Yeah. That seems really crazy. And ticks.

1:30:21Watch that thing. The tick thing is nuts. Yeah. Especially— Because of meat, because of gates. Uh-huh. Well, there's boxes— Bill Gates, not mad. People are finding—and I don't know if this is true because I've seen many reports on it, but I'm just going to say what I saw—that farmers and ranchers are finding boxes of ticks on their property. Now, I don't know if that's fake. I don't know if someone's setting that up to pretend they found these boxes of ticks, but there's videos of these people finding boxes of ticks. Now, what they'll say is they'll probably say they're sterile ticks and that we're planting them out there so we can diminish the population is what they'll say.

1:30:57But anytime they try to mess with the balance of nature, it never goes right. Is that what they're saying? No, but just get ready. That's what you think? You're getting it right here. I don't believe you have a right to go to someone's property and drop off sterile ticks. No way in hell. That's crazy either way. But I have a good friend of mine who got bit by the Lone Star tick and has that alpha gal problem. Yeah, a guy came out of my house yesterday looking at putting gutters up at our house. And dad got me, he said, and I said, you did what? He goes, yeah, I can't eat anything, any meat produced by a mammal.

1:31:29Yes. I was like. Yeah. So my buddy, he had it. And my friend Evan. So he had it for a little while, and then he did a bunch of treatments and got off of it and then started eating steak again. And he was fine for about a year and a half, and then it came back stronger than ever. And he just can't shake it. He's been around that long. Oh, yeah. He can only eat eggs. I mean, he's basically eating eggs and vegetables. That's all he's eating. And every time he tries to deviate, he has a horrible reaction. It makes, for people that don't know, it makes your body allergic to red meat. Right. And who has got genetically made meat now?

1:32:03Yeah, Bill Gates. Reelgates. Yeah, well, they're doing things with mosquitoes, and they're messing around with nature in a way that no one's giving you permission to. The general public does not want you doing this. If they could vote on it, they'd say, no way. Hey there, it's Wayfair here, where delivery and setup are as easy as a few taps on your phone. You're relaxing in an old hammock, scrolling Wayfair's app, when you spot it, a brand new patio set. Next thing you know, Wayfair delivers it right to your patio and sets it up. Oh, you need a new grill too? All right, Wayfair's got you covered.

1:32:34With Wayfair's room of choice delivery and fast experts set up on qualifying orders, life gets a little easier. Visit Wayfair.com or the Wayfair app. Wayfair, every style, every home. It's like those beagles that they show that Fauci. I grew up with beagles. Sport number one, sport number two. They're the sweetest dogs. They are the best dogs ever. And my buzz was, he's a Cavalier mix, but he was, or we think, I'm not really sure, but he was a rescue dog. And that poor thing had never been on grass. And I see those dogs acting just like poor Buzz. He couldn't climb stairs. And he was mistreated.

1:33:10He can't hear very well. And he's the sweetest dadgum dog, though. And those freaking beagles, I just, that rips my heart up. Because there's, right now, I've talked to scientists in the labs. And there's everything we can do now we can do in the lab without, pretty much without. Without cruelty. Without cruelty. Without, you know, bringing in beagles. And why beagles? The whole thing just stinks to me. It's disgusting. disgusting it's very evil i mean look i don't even like when they do it with rats yeah but doing it with puppies is insane and then euthanizing them after you've forced them to be distrated oh it's horrible yeah he did some evil stuff he's and he lied like clearly lied lied to the american people about transmission lied to the american people about preventing infection i can remember when they brought him to congress and um i brought him into a meeting i was in i was in the back and he's a little short guy.

1:34:02And I was like, who the heck is that? And he said, that's Fauci. And they brought him in and everybody started cheering. I thought I had a bad vibe on him then. And then you talk to gay folks, you know, he was involved in the AIDS. AZT. Yeah. And they got a bad feeling towards him. Sure. I mean, he's the culprit. He's the villain in that movie, The Dallas Buyers Club. That's about him preventing people from taking alternative medications. That sound familiar? Yeah, exactly what they did during COVID. Right now we're doing it. I was in Blunt County yesterday for a police officer's memorial service, and an officer came up and said, you know, my child suffers from a rare disease, and we can't get to this treatment, and can you put a bug in the president?

1:34:47I was like, sure, you know, we'll try. And Trump's doing that a lot now with RFK. I like to try. Yeah, RFK Jr. people, they'll try to trash him, and that's fine. He's a tough guy. But a lot of those trials now are going forward, cancer and other things. Yeah. And that's another reason they don't like Trump. Man, you talk about, I mean, you've got big pharma, you've got big agriculture, and a couple others, and they run the table. They run the table. I told somebody, and, of course, big energy oil, we get zero. I know it's a commodity, and I'm going to get lit up that oil is a commodity and the world market, but we get zero oil from Iran, zero.

1:35:36We export oil right now, and yet the price is going through the roof. It's going through the roof because it can. They can. And I always say, well, how does that gasoline in the pumps go up? They've already been processed, already been paid for. How does it go up exponentially just overnight, 20 cents a gallon or whatever? And how does that – and if that's because it's a commodity and, Birchit, you don't understand, how come that quart of oil at the hardware store doesn't go up like that? Wouldn't it – it's processed oil. Wouldn't it do the same? And, of course, diesel. Your first cut, I think, is kerosene.

1:36:14Then it's diesel. And diesel, and I've got a diesel dually I filled it up yesterday, is over$100. You know, it is the cheapest. It is the roughest cut. You know, that's why you have these incredible filters because it's dirty. And gasoline is the third or fourth cut, and it ought to be the most expensive. But it's not. I just think it's a racket. And every time they'll hold the hearings and they'll come down there and, you know, and the oil companies will, you know, they'll shake that money tree. They know how to do it on both sides of the aisle. It happens all the time. I remember when Bush was leaving office before Obama took office where gasoline just went through the roof.

1:36:56Everybody was freaking out and no one could explain it. And it was just I was like, look, they can. This is like the last chance they can to just jack up the prices, jack up the profits, hold everybody hostage. You have to get gas. You've got to drive to work. Got an oil man in the White House. Yeah. And they just jacked it up. It's payoff time. Yeah. And I'm a capitalist. I'm a heartless capitalist. I make skateboards. You make skateboards? Yeah. Yeah. It's cheaper than a psychiatrist. I guess I'm a little bit like Trump. I like ketchup on my steak, although I think he gets his well done. I get my medium rare.

1:37:32You put ketchup on your steak? You should go to jail. Does the Baptist church got a bus? That's terrible. Yes, they do. That's terrible. No, I make skateboards. So I make this crazy skateboard for Tulsi Gabbard. She's a buddy of mine. She's kind of a— I love her. I love her, too. She is wonderful. And she's from Hawaii. So in Trump's first— Oh, that's it. There it is. Oh, okay. I made that skateboard. Your Bigfoot skateboard? Yeah, I put my sticker on it. It's made out of bamboo, oak, and banana fibers off the banana plant. Oh, wow. And she outs me during the Trump's first. There's my guys at Pluto Sports.

1:38:07They put my wheels and trucks on. It's just they're guys I was in high school with. Did you skate? Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I don't do the fancy stuff. You don't do tricks? Not anymore. I'm 61, dude. I don't heal like I did when I was 51, much less when I was a young man. You're only a few years older than me. Well, you look good. Thank you. Sorry, man. I'm just, you know, people think I'm on steroids, but I'm naturally this huge. so so she tulsi says birch it i said hey tulsi she says and she's walking in there to state of the union cameras people around where's my dad gum skateboard my birthday's next month i'm like oh crap so i make her this skateboard right and that picture comes out i mean people all over the world are saying where can i get a birch it board where can i get a birch it board so i'm mr you know i'm trying to be ethical and you know and uh i go down to see the ethics guy and this little attorney tells me he says well congressman you know you gotta you can't do that you can't call it a board you can't you know i said well my wife's got on the company and they think well maybe and then you but you can't work there and all this other stuff and you know everybody down there's got a side hustle right and i've said dude so you're telling me i can do insider stock trading but I can't sell a dadgum skateboard and the guy said that's correct so anyway I got about 35 skateboards in my barn I just keep making them and I call my attorney you make them yourself yeah yeah yeah that's how I say it's cheaper than a psychiatrist so you make them by hand yeah absolutely yeah you know I have um that's pretty cool I make them I'm cheap but so I make them out of a bamboo that I cut uh buddy of mine Chris Pointer's got a bunch at his house but I go to the synagogue behind the synagogue on Kingston Pike.

1:39:47There's a bunch of bamboo and they used to let me cut it. Now that when this airs, they probably won't. But, um, and then I, I get oak pallets and, um, and banana fibers that grow off the banana plant. So, but anyway, I grow those. And just laminate it all? Yeah. Well, I used fiberglass with that and I'm trying to get away from the carcinogens, you know, the cancer causing. So I, I use a type on three glue. It's waterproof and water-based. And then, um, and then I just sand them all down and because, You know, you scuff them up after you ride them around anyway. So anyway, so I make them out of that and I laminate the wood and my local, the steel laborers, they needed a project one year when I was mayor of Knox County.

1:40:26And I and somebody said, hey, they want to these guys want to make a skateboard press. They said, do you want one? I said, yeah, I'll buy the metal. And I'm thinking, you know, they're going to build me this little thing. No, I mean, it's like three burly union metal workers have to put this thing in the back of my daddy gum pickup truck. It is a monster, and I can press them, and I've got clamps. I do all of it, but anyway. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's a cool hobby. But I can't sell them. My wife's like, what are you doing out there? And I said, well, come out there and look at my boards, honey.

1:40:58I'm making skateboards. And she always – Look at you out there. That's one I laminated up, or it's side laminated. That's very cool. My wife always says, honey, you go to it. She says, I'm sure they laughed at the guy that created the pool noodle. That's her line. Probably. Kelly said, oh, yeah, yeah. It was just a piece of insulation off some old rental house. And he threw it and his kids were swimming with it. And he thought, man, I'm going to take that 12 cent piece of foam, take it to Walmart and sell it for six dollars a piece. Now he's probably sitting on some island somewhere laughing at us.

1:41:30But no, I make them and I've been trying to. Anyway, it's very frustrating. I got a meeting with the attorneys and the chairman of the ethics committee, who is a really good guy. He and I came to Congress together, and we're trying to work it out. It's not even a lot of money in handmade skateboards. The fact that you could have insider trading and you can't sell handmade skateboards, that's ridiculous. A little ridiculous, isn't it? It's also like, what, because you're famous? Because you're on television? Somebody's going to sway my vote because they bought a dadgum skateboard for me. Yeah, I took one to an auction, and I think somebody paid$5 ,200 for one of those deckhams.

1:42:11Whoa. And then some other guy comes up and says, Tim, I was at the bar, and I missed it. If I give them$5 ,200, will you make me one? So I got a couple, and then my friends in Claiborne County, the mountains up there, they chair the committee, and they asked me. I thought I was making one, and then when I got out of there, I was making three, so I don't know. And then people just like them, and they put them on their wall. I mean, you're not going to be in the Olympics. Tony Hawk's not going to go, hey, Tim Burchett, will you make me a board? But it's just for cruising down the sidewalk kind of thing.

1:42:44That's awesome. That's awesome. It sucks that they won't let you sell it. Yeah. You sell yourself, but I can't sell a skateboard. Speaking of selling, you were telling me earlier before we started, and I said save this because I want to talk about this later, that the Taliban gets how many millions of dollars a week? About$40 million a week. It all happened. I was on a podcast, and they were talking about it, and Sean Ryan. I love that dude. Yeah, great American. I love him. Good man. He's a good Christian man. He's been through it. He's an incredible guy that they've asked to do horrible things, and people like that, I give them a wide path.

1:43:31I let them slide on a lot of things. But he's a good daddy and, you know, he worries about our country. He reminds me a lot of my dad because you couldn't wake my dad up to the day he died over the top of him, always by his big toe because he might wake up on one of those islands and pin me against the wall. I was a Marine on Peleliu and Okinawa. Daddy's colonel was a guy named Chesty Puller, Colonel Puller. You can look him up. He was a Marine Corps legend, but, and my daddy loved him. But, um, anyway, the, um, I'm, I'm on this podcast with Sean and he says, Hey, I want you to introduce Eli Crane.

1:44:10He's a, he's a, excuse me, Navy SEAL in Congress. He said, I want you to go on this podcast with Sean Ryan. I said, I don't know who Sean Ryan is. I don't, I'm not a podcast guy. I don't, my daughter always, give me your phone. I don't know how to do it. And all of a sudden I got a cool picture of her on there. I don't even know how she did it. But so I'm on there, and he calls me and says, I want you to meet with this guy. He goes by the name Legend, and that's not his real name. But he comes into the office, and he can't use his real name, and says, look, they're getting$40 million a week. I said, who is?

1:44:46He said the Taliban. And he's an Afghani that fought for us, and so he's dual citizenship. introduced you know i talked to the last democratically elected president of afghanistan through him on a on a call and um and he's a dear friend and he comes by all the time and we talk and and so john stout in my office who's like he's the best i mean this guy his mom and daddy were in a very tragic car accident and they um they prayed through it and and they both lived i mean daddy had to get, you know, it was banged up. His mama's head got banged up pretty bad. And John's just, he is the quintessential staffer because he's so loyal and he loves this country.

1:45:32And so he said, boss, I think I got an idea. I said, all right. So he figured out this monitoring thing where what they do is they send pallets of cash to them through whatever. And there's three banks over there that are owned by the Taliban. And everything goes through them. You know, the Lord takes 10 % with tithe, but the Taliban takes a hell of a lot more. They take it right off the top and on ingress and egress. If you give them money or take money away, I mean, if you spend money or put money in or whatever, you take in or pay out, they get their cut off of it. Every dadgum time. And so I'm thinking this can't be right.

1:46:14So I got a memo on my desk from the State Department. It's stamped classified. so I can't talk about it. But then it's stamped unclassified under it so I can talk about it. And it basically said under the Biden administration they think we gave them$5 billion with a B,$5 billion. Now, and you've got NGOs. Now, how many NGOs do you think operate over there? I don't know how many. Over 1 ,000. And then you throw in the United Nations. Out of Afghanistan? Yeah, it's just... There's 1 ,000 NGOs? It's the freakingest. It's the biggest scam. NGOs. I wrote a letter to the president months ago and they've tapped the brakes on the NGOs.

1:46:56I mean, some of them don't have any money and some of them got a lot. But Elon Musk told me like I really know him. I mean, I hung out with him a couple of times and we talked. Called me Tim, which I thought was pretty cool. But he says, he says, Tim, here's how these NGOs work. He said, you know, they start out as a good organization, maybe during Bush one or Bush two. You know, a lot of those limousine liberals, do-gooders, you know, they start these organizations. And they set them up and to do, you know, feed the starving children or whatever. Well, they don't have any money in them. And some billionaire who we all know you can just name them, they'll drop a million in one of those.

1:47:38And then this unelected bureaucrat in Washington, D.C. says, hey, they got a million dollars. This place is legit. And so they give them money. They put the money in there for them. And then they start running federal money through that, yours and my tax dollars. And he told me he thinks they stole over a trillion dollars. I thought at the time I thought that was crazy. But then I start looking at, you know, what happened in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 19 billion. Joe, when I went to state legislature, our state budget of Tennessee wasn't$19 billion years ago. It's a lot more than that now. But that's the amount of fraud and waste and abuse that go on.

1:48:20Well, so backtrack to this deal. So I get involved with it, and it's just unbelievable. It took me two—I passed the bill twice. The second time my buddy John Stout in the office there, he comes up with an even stronger version. And so we send it to the Senate. And so we find out that there's a Senate staffer that somebody said he's like the unofficial ambassador to Afghanistan. I've literally read where he said, it appears to me, complimentary things about the Taliban. Now, those people want to kill us. As I like to say, they'll hate us for free. We don't need to give them any money. Well, it's like pulling teeth through my committee.

1:49:06The Democrats raised ruckus because obviously they don't want anybody looking at those NGOs. And the NGO money, now get this, it may be a little bit goes to feed some starving kid, but a lot of it gets washed and it goes back to the good old United States of America. Are you familiar with dark money and campaigns? Yes. You know, you're and I'll folks back home the day before the election. The people for American justice approved this ad. Did you know Tim Burchett, you know, pushed his second grade girlfriend down in a mud puddle and never apologized? That's what happened, you know, and then paid for by the people for American justice, you know, you know.

1:49:48And then but what's happened is, is that money that you're sending over there is coming back in the form of dark money. And we've got and I think both parties are involved with it at some point. I think the Democrats have had the had a run of it and they've they've got a they've got it pretty much closed. They've got a pretty good market going on, in my opinion. And there are probably some Republicans I think I know of that are that have some dark money, too. And not necessarily from this, but from other things. And then you start talking about the U.N. The U.N. has got in every so that's you and Birchett.

1:50:21We don't have the heck we don't. We sponsored the freaking UN. If it was up to me, I'd pull out of the dadgum UN. They are nothing. All they do is get Americans killed. They talk ugly about us, and then they take our dadgum money, and we let them do it because crooked politicians are in bed. Washington is crooked as a dog's leg, Joe, and this bill makes them report it and follow the money so we know where it's going. And if it's going to the Taliban, it's out. So can you just explain to me how they would justify sending money to the Taliban and what is the circumstance? They justify it by saying it doesn't happen.

1:51:01They justify it by saying it doesn't happen. But I'm talking to a guy, this guy Legend, who's got people on the ground. And the people over there, the Freedom Fire, are saying, please quit sending them money. Please. And, you know, they when we left over there, you know, we left how many billions of dollars worth of armaments on the ground. They said, oh, you know, I mean, I heard Democrats saying, well, those people can't fly those high end choppers. Well, you know who could? The dadgum Chinese who were on the ground before we got out of there. So it's it's just a crooked game. It's a small portion.

1:51:34I know. But explain how's the money getting to them? Okay, it is sent to them through these NGOs and other organizations. So we fund the NGOs. Correct. The NGOs send money to the Taliban. Why would they do that? Because they get a cutoff of it. They don't care. Okay, so the Taliban gets$40 million and then they send that money back? Some of it comes back and some of it doesn't. But as long as they get a piece of it, they don't care how much the Taliban gets. Right. This requires a report on any cash assistant programs in Afghanistan and how the U.S. keeps the Taliban from assessing that. And it requires a report on the Afghan fund and the Afghanistan Central Bank.

1:52:19And these reports, of course, would shed light on the Taliban's influence over the Afghanistan Central Bank. And you can you can research it. A lot of it is these do-gooder programs. You know, oh, man, we're taking care of the orphans. We're taking care of this. And, you know, good and well, they ain't taking care of any dadgum orphans. they're stealing the money to do it and it just infuriates me and then i hear them say well it's not happening i said well if it's not happening then dadgummit passed the bill what's it hurt what's it hurt we pass worthless legislation every dadgum day and you know and i can't get a peep i said to thone when he came in when king charles was which was kind of funny too i had a funny conversation king charles by the way no kings i'm not a king yeah yeah what about that i was There's a picture of me.

1:53:05I did a video on my ex account at Tim Burchett. See how I threw that plug in? Central Bank of Afghanistan said it received another injection of$40 million in cash this week. And this is literally$100 bills in stacks. Is that real? Is that a stock photo or is that them showing a photograph of the money they received? Because I can't imagine they're sending bricks of cash. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's pallets. It's called a pallet of cash. What? I'm reading through this explanation of it from these reports. He's saying exactly what these are all saying, but this is a lot of explanation in here. I got a mutual fund.

1:53:42I don't understand all the money, but when I sit here,$40 million going overseas. But in cash, too, is crazy. There's no record of it. Take it and divvy it up. We print it every day. The UN is responsible for purchasing, transporting, and transferring at least$2.9 billion in U.S. currency to Afghanistan. And this is from 2024, I think, when this was printed. So that they have to find the cash on, you know. Call your senator and say, I want this dad-owned bill on the floor. It's past the committee, and it was like pulling teeth. It was because apparently I offended somebody, which I'm sure I did now.

1:54:18But I don't understand why anybody wouldn't recognize that giving money to an organization that hates us, a fundamentalist religious organization that hates us. They're not a religion. They're not a religion. They're a cult or... Yeah, whatever you want to call it. Since its first cash shipment, UN has made at least 80 purchases of cash for transport to Afghanistan. 80. 80 purchases of$40 million. The UN reported that it began purchasing and shipping cash because of Afghan's banks' inability to participate in international wire transfers. And Afghanistan's lack of domestic currency circulating throughout its economy.

1:54:58me oh so we got to help them out and give 40 million dollars a week yeah and the starving kids are still starving the little orphans aren't being taken care of and they're still throwing gays off of buildings and poking little girls are there any gays left they got to be in the closet they are in the closet there's a lot of that a lot of pedophilia i have some buddies that served yeah they got some horrible stories wanted to yeah i was gonna frag a afghani general or something one time he told me and he used to work for me and he had mental issues over it. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, I've heard horrible, horrible stories.

1:55:32My dad wouldn't go back to Okinawa because, if I can digress quickly, Daddy went back for the 50th anniversary of the invasion of Peleliu and he said, I said, you're going to go back to the 50th anniversary? Because, you know, those Marines, not a lot of those guys are left, you know, and they're all gone now. But he said, I ain't going to go back to Okinawa. And he said, he told me this story. He said, they came over this hill and a Corsair caught a bunch of Japanese out in this field. Dad caught it a lucky strike. Dad loved a Corsair. They can dive at over 400 miles an hour and just lit them up, caught them out, obliterated them, and they run up on them.

1:56:08And they had been raping some of the islanders or Korean girls that they'd collected. And I think that messed with my dad. All the stuff he saw, blowing caves and shooting people up close, and that's what he said I won't go into it because I got a daughter that's going to be watching this thing but um it was and and that's that's what scarred my daddy You would have loved him. He was, my buddy, my buddy Chris Aggard, he got a Acura for Christmas. It was a bright red Acura. And, you know, Acura's not made in America at the time. And Dad goes, Agg? He says, my daddy was a dean at UT, dean of student county.

1:56:49He goes, where's that thing made? And he goes, I reckon it's made in Japan, CB. And Dad goes, I reckon you're going to be parking that thing out in the street. Daddy just went back in the kitchen. I went out and moved his act down the street. Nobody messed with my dad. I remember the neighbor one time, she comes over and said, somebody's in my house. And I was like, what? And I'm downstairs. And I run upstairs, and dad runs by me with a Browning High Power. I mean, he's probably 70 years old, and he was clearing that house. He ran in that house, and I remember my mom was on the phone and he said, don't shoot my husband.

1:57:22He's in a blue powder leisure suit. Oh, man, he was something else. He was, yeah, Mama was something else, too. They were real Christians, so they weren't bumper sticker kind of Christians. That's awesome. I would, to this day, I don't like, I love the Waffle House. You know, it's America's premier steakhouse. And I go in there, and I don't like eating breakfast food any other time than at breakfast because I can always remember as a little boy, Daddy would always pick up somebody on the interstate. Somebody broke down, black folks, white folks, you know, anybody. somebody and or some UT student that was having a little rough go and bring him to the house and there wouldn't be enough hamburgers for me my brother sister and I know the five of us and but mama could make enough breakfast and I always knew that daddy brought somebody home and we were going to be eating breakfast for supper and that always ticked me off as a kid you know I didn't understand at the time but now I realize I had pretty cool parents so that's awesome can I show you a cool picture of my mama sure she flew an airplane during the second world war she was um i was hanging out with kid rock one time and i'm going to use a little language here bobby and um and i said i know your your thing is you're the american badass i said but i was raised by the american badasses and i got pictures of that on pelu and okinawa and with his thompson submachine gun stuff here's my mama somebody colorizes she's just a little country girl wow and flying an airplane during the second her brother roy who was 33 years old got killed in a hedge rose.

1:58:53Wow. She's a beautiful woman. They colorize that. That's crazy. And I'm an unrepentant mama's boy. That's a crazy picture. Yeah, that's crazy. She got her foot up. And I've got a picture of my daughter. We were at the air show, and the guy had a biplane over there, and he wasn't going to. There it is. There it is. That's the black. Oh, thank you, Jamie. You're the man. But that's in Nashville. Wow. And somebody, it was National Women's Aviators Day, and everybody's showing all these pictures of these women. And I said, well, I'm going to have to one-up y 'all. And I put that up there. And somebody sent it to me.

1:59:22I didn't know just a supporter, not even in my district. And they colorized it for me. Wow. And so I was, you know, and that company that I can't read the name off of, of the parachute, but I think they're still in business. But anyway, that was in Nashville. You can see they're on dirt. And the crazy thing was when she qualified, I don't know how long you got to fly with an instructor before you solo. Well, they messed up, and they did the math wrong on it, which was crazy because Mama was a math teacher, but she was a country girl, and she's in it for the fight. And she's a lot like my wife.

1:59:57My wife is a fighter, too. You don't want to get between her and anybody in our family. But Mama, she soloed in half the time that she was supposed to. And, you know, the war's going on, and I've still got her little log book, and they tried to redo the math on it, and it was wrong. But, you know, Mama just—Daddy said, yeah, I bet she cleared out a fence row when she landed. No, but she was pretty cool. It's got to be a terrible slap in the face of these people that served in Afghanistan to find out that the Taliban's getting— My buddy Eli Karain, I just look over at him, and he's one beautiful human being.

2:00:37I love Eli Crane. He is my buddy. And lone survivor. Marcus Luttrell? Yeah, his brother. Morgan? Morgan, yeah. He's the catcher on our baseball team. And I was out there one day, and we don't actually practice in the best part of town. But we've got security everywhere because when they shot Scalise and all those guys years back, we've got – I feel very secure. And I heard this pop, pop, pop, pop. And this young officer, D.C. officer said, Capitol policeman said, it's OK, guys. I think it's fireworks. And Morgan took his hat off and goes, Birchett, that was gunfire. And I thought, I'm going with what Morgan says.

2:01:20I'm not going with what this guy up here says. They never fired a shot in anger. And I love those guys. They're wonderful people. And I do, too. I hurt for them. I used to hurt for my daddy because he would talk about China. They went to China after the war and he fought the communists over there for a short while. And then before he left the Marine Corps, but how we just turned them over and that he would talk about that and he would he would be visibly upset and walk away because of that. You know, these we just we want to get these wars over and we don't we don't deal with the repercussions.

2:01:53We don't do the repercussions of we got warriors we need to heal and we got to, you know, and and it's just very frustrating to me. Yeah, well, you know, kudos to Trump for passing this psychedelics bill. Oh, good gosh. I saw you on that. I love that. I talked because I didn't know anything about it. And I asked some of those guys about it before. And they said, oh, yeah, Birch, one member confided in me that he, you know, because he'd been in some of the mess. And I told him, I said, you know, my daddy had anger issues and stuff. He never beat mama or me or anybody. How could you not? I know.

2:02:32How could you expect? That's the crazy thing. You expect this of people to do horrible things and to see horrible things and to come back and just go to the grocery store. Just be normal. Just sit in traffic. Be normal. I remember one time we were at a UT football game, and I was a little boy. I must have been four or five. We were on the 50-yard line. It was in the 60s, and they let you bring these cowbells. It was the last game they let you bring cowbells, too. I don't even probably do it now, but back then. And so this guy was sitting behind us and he was drunk and he took the Lord's name in vain.

2:03:05And my daddy said, hey, he said, we got ladies down here. You know, my sister, who was probably seven or eight and my mama was there. And the guy said, OK. And then the guy spilled his drink on my dad and my mama grabbed us all as kids and just rushed us out. And I remembered I was like, no, what's daddy doing? You know, and the UT cops, they love my daddy because he was dean of student conduct. He always backed them up. and they come running down the aisle and literally my dad beat these guys ass all three of them right there on the 50 yard line at neyland stadium and i was just a little boy and i was like he didn't give high fives back then but if i had i would have given him because he was he was pretty incredible guy well guys been to war like that man had and come back and and it wasn't any different than thousands of other of his buddies you know they would get together and talk about stuff and and I you know we didn't drink in the house my mom and daddy didn't let me have a beer can collection and daddy's buddy red welch came over and red drank beer at the at the dinner table and it was in the 80s I wasn't I was gosh I was getting ready to go to college and that was still no beer in the house and red was drinking beer and I said daddy I said what's the deal with red drinking beer and he said buddy he said you get pinned down on one of them islands and you got you know you're gonna get you're gonna leave this earth pretty soon there's one guy that comes running for you he can do pretty much whatever he wants to in your house and that was red i found an old picture of him and daddy in china the other day but yeah daddy had um he had a great life though he had a great life him and mom are both buried at veteran cemetery there in knoxville and you know to this day i'm 61 years old and if i go up there i i think about them and their sacrifice and i cry like a baby because i go to that capital joe and i see people just that are just going to throw it all away.

2:04:54Throw it all away. And to me, that's just unforgivable. Unforgivable. Well, I'm very happy that some of these people that have experienced these horrible things have at least a pathway to relief now. Yeah, and thank you for getting involved, brother. That was huge. I couldn't see that ever. Do what? Thank Rick Perry. Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard, because if it wasn't for them explaining to me what they've been through and how it's helped people and all the other people that I know, like Marcus Luttrell was a friend. Dude, it wouldn't have happened. I talked to everybody and they said it wouldn't have happened if it wasn't been for you.

2:05:31You use that microphone for good and I appreciate it because a lot of people aren't. Well, I never asked him for anything up until that moment. And I was like, if there's a thing that I could do that might make the world a little bit of a better place. And the fact that those things were made illegal in the first place is just ridiculous. It should have never happened. And they should have been studied and we could understand how they could help people, especially when you consider how many people are on antidepressants in this country. Oh, it's epidemic. Tim Walsh's daughter, the guy who was running for vice president, his daughter just made a post on social media where she was talking about how she's been on them for 15 years and she's realizing that they're a real problem.

2:06:11And every time she's tried to get off, it's been devastating. And I know people that have also been on them that they try to get off them, like my friend Theo Vaughn. And the roof falls off. And, like, every time he starts talking about something that drives him crazy, I just got to kind of rein him in and just, like, calm down. Like, you know, if you've had friends take their lives, and I've had a few. I've had quite a few. It's a horrible feeling when you think about it and you go, what could I have done? What could I have said? How could I have? And so much so we don't know. My oldest friend in the world, a guy named Scott Davis, he and I were at Little Red Schoolhouse together.

2:06:49His brother took his life, and he suffered from depression. And this was in the 80s, and we didn't understand it. I was with a guy yesterday, one of his best friends, Ben Testerman. He was telling me, I talked to him. I came home. He was a professional tennis player, and he came home and was talking to Jeff. And he said, I just feel like I'm in a hole, and nobody gets that. And people will say to him, I hear people all the time say, say hey uh just get over it man you know go for a jog and there's some freaking chemical imbalance that we don't know something has happened that's jarred them that we don't understand and that is if if there's one avenue that gets it you know and but big pharma again big ag big pharma it's like hemp yeah why the hell are we not growing hemp right it just drives me crazy it drives me crazy as well it doesn't make any sense especially when you find out all the stuff that is legal.

2:07:42It's like, have some consistency. It doesn't make any sense. How many people do we lose every year? And a lot of my friends are in the alcohol business, but it's a personal responsibility issue with me. You know, if you do it, it's your business. But if you break the law, you know, you're going to the hooch gal. Yeah. And listen, I'm not a big drinker, but I think you should be allowed to drink. I don't think there's anything wrong with being allowed to smoke cigarettes. If that's what you want to do, you should be able to do it. I believe in freedom. But I think we should be consistent. And the fact that there's these things that could help people that are suffering from depression, that are suffering from opioid addiction, that are suffering from all sorts of PTSD and CTE, and that we have this thing that we've known about for decades, and the only person that had the courage to try to push an executive order is Trump.

2:08:26And if I help that - Again, again, he is enemy number one with a lot of those people. Well, I mean, thank God he's got the kind of courage that he has to push stuff like that through. The guts. It's going to change a lot of humans' lives, a lot of veterans' lives, a lot of first responders, a lot of police officers, a lot of people that have experienced violent crime. It's going to change a lot of people's lives. Women that have been abused. Yes. All the above. Everything. And they're not going to be walking around like some kind of crazy zombies thing. It's a very controlled thing. Especially Ibogaine.

2:09:00Ibogaine is not recreational in any shape or form. No one's taking it recreationally. I've never done it, but I've heard it's a terrible experience. But you come out on the under end of it. And Rick Perry was also talking about how he's experienced natural brain atrophy, being a man in his 70s. He went and got an examination after he did it, and his brain atrophy had dropped by 25%. He went back in six months later. It was all gone. Just that alone. Wow. Think about all the elderly people out there that are suffering from memory loss and all these different issues that people have, that that could fix them.

2:09:31and that it's literally just one experience that you have that takes 12 hours, and when it's over, you're better? That's crazy. And that we've kept this from people. There's no chance of people being addicted. The money. Somebody wants to control it. I understand, but at some point in time, we've got to be human. I agree. All these money people have to realize you only have a certain amount of time on this planet. You need to shut them out. And you have an opportunity to make the world a better place. And we've got to say no to people that just want personal money. They just want personal funds that are going to go to their money, that's going to go to their bank accounts, going to go to their company, their corporation.

2:10:07Personal benefit at the expense of who knows how many people, including literal heroes. When's enough enough for those guys? Yeah, when is enough enough? I mean this is the same feeling that I have about this disclosure stuff. Like I don't care what it's going to affect. I don't care. Like if there is real things out there that we don't know about, you as a human being have no right to keep that from the rest of humanity. There's I don't care what your title is. I don't care what three letter organization you work for. You're a human being and you have an obligation to the other human beings to alert us.

2:10:46The fact that there's people that have if this is real, there's people that have gone to their grave with this information that would literally change the course of human history. That's a crime. It's a real crime. Could you imagine the poor countries, the people that suffer, you know, the deserts and things like that, if you could cool their huts or whatever. Right. And we get out of these worthless wars, which are over all the time. Right. And it just it would end it all. And just a stroke of a pen almost. What do you think it is? I go back and forth. I know it's a little crazy, and this will probably cost me election because they've tried to use it against me in the past.

2:11:23It will only help you at this point. Well, I think we need to look at these deep water areas. I have a hard time believing that something can travel light years in some suspended state. They have to be in some kind of suspended state. So I have trouble with that. Those five gentlemen that came to my house, four or five, that came to my house that time, And they were talking about a moon that was around Saturn or Jupiter that they'd done some testing with that they think would be capable of something. And the moon was larger than our Earth, of course. There's a moon that's larger than our Earth?

2:11:58Yeah, around Jupiter or Saturn. That doesn't make any sense. I don't think that's correct. Maybe I'm wrong. Check it out. No, no, no. There's no moons that are larger than a planet. I don't think so. Our planet. I don't believe that's true. Circles around it. I don't know. Anyway, I'm wrong. Is that accurate? Do I not know about this? Yeah, but there's no—I don't believe there's a moon out there that's larger than our planet. These guys seem to think that something could travel from there, and it was the quantum physics. After talking to that admiral, you know, it makes me wonder if there is something in these deep ocean areas.

2:12:32The old cliche, we know more about the surface of the moon than we do the surface of the ocean floor in some areas. I think it's true because we're not down there. Logically, that's the one place where we don't go, and it covers 75 % of the Earth at least, right? And if you wanted to hide, that would be the spot. I mean, if you were monitoring humans, let's say that humans are on this path of technological evolution, and then they recognize that humans have split the atom. We've developed atomic weapons, and we've used them, and they want to make sure that we don't blow up the entire planet before we achieve some sort of enlightenment.

2:13:10before we bypass whatever territorial primate monkey brain stuff that we have that's causing us to have all these wars and do all these things that we shouldn't be doing. Stupid stuff. And that we're on our way. We're getting better. We're clearly better than we were 1 ,000 years ago and better than we were 3 ,000 years ago. We're on our way to being a more advanced civilization. But it's possible that we could screw it all up at any point in time and blow ourselves to smithereens. I would imagine they would want to monitor us. One maniac in Iran. If they hadn't stopped their nuclear, I'm convinced that they were out for Armageddon.

2:13:47They'd have launched something. They had the capabilities to go all the way to England. If they put one close to Israel, it'd be over. And people like North Korea, who have terrible technology on missiles, the biggest threat there was if they put one up in the air that the nuclear cloud could blow over China. And so that could have had some incredible bad repercussions. Well, the fact that there's so many different countries that have nuclear weapons. and we're just relying on these people to keep their shit together. It's nuts. It's nuts. Completely nuts. Yeah. And they're maniacs. Yeah. Well, it makes sense that if you were a super advanced life form from wherever, that if you wanted to have base, some sort of a base where you'd monitor us, it would be in the ocean.

2:14:29You'd be right there. You could get out of it real quick and go to wherever you wanted to go. Orbs was the thing I was thinking of earlier. Orbs. Orbs, yeah. That's the new word that you hear a lot of. and it's getting away from saucers. Well, there's a lot of weird stuff with orbs where people say that they could summon them. Yeah, I'm not on that. There's someone, a friend of mine wants me to go and do it with her. She's, my friend's wife has like experienced it and she's like, you got to try it. I'm like, oh. Now that to me is. I'll say who it is when she comes on the podcast next. I don't know.

2:15:00I don't know. I don't have permission to talk about it. I don't know if she wants me to talk about it, but I'm like, okay, what do we got to do? Be careful about the sex cult angle. Well, she's not. I'm not worried about that. I know you're a good-looking guy, Joe. No, no, no. She might be digging you. No, no, no. This ain't that. This is not that. She's been my friend for 20 years. She's married to my friend. Now I'm saying the angle that they use. Well, this lady's not that. She's a comedian. Okay. This is not that. But there are a lot of kooky people that do have sex cults. The sex cults, every cult turns into a sex cult, right?

2:15:37Power. You know, I almost bought a building in Austin that was owned by a cult. No, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The original Comedy Mothership was the original location was a place called the One World Theater. The One World Theater was owned by this cult. And I kind of knew about it because Ron White told me about it because they had this theater that they built so that their leader can perform in front of them. And then the cult got disbanded. the cult there's a documentary about the cult called holy hell and uh yeah it's crazy it's but it's a sex cult there was a guy who is a get this he started out in california and he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist which is a wonderful combination if you want to start a cult like you do yeah and also a yoga teacher so he starts out teaching these people yoga and i don't know if you've ever taken yoga before i've taken a bunch of yoga classes with a bunch of different instructors And most of them have been amazing.

2:16:34But a few of them were very culty, very culty. And there's this one guy that I took classes from way back in the day, like more than 20 years ago. And he was in California and he was sleeping with a bunch of the ladies that were there. And he was kind of like a cult guy. Like he was like – Like you were following him and getting drug into it. Yeah, he was singing, singing stupid songs. But it was like very full of himself. It was gross. He was gross. And, you know, everything wound up falling apart for that guy. And then he ran for Congress. But there's a lot of these people that for whatever reason, that's where it all boils down to.

2:17:07They want to have sex with everybody's wife and they want to run at everything and they want, you know, run of the mill. It's very strange. But that's where the demonic stuff comes in with Christians when you call these things down. Why do you think that that has to do with sex cults? Why would the aliens have to do with sex cults? I don't think it's the aliens. I just think some people are abusing the people's—they think that they're using their belief in UFOs to draw them in to some sort of thing. Have you knowledge of this kind of stuff? Yeah. I get all of it. I hear about all of it. Can you name names?

2:17:42Can you talk about like— Not on the air. Okay. I don't want to get sued. Okay. So the underwater bases or the underwater— This is what an admiral told me. So did he say locations that these things are coming from, or is there an actual physical base that they've observed? He said that they don't have the capabilities to get down that deep, actually. But they did say that the sightings were happening in about, I think, four of the five deep water areas around our world. And so— And he didn't have any other, you know, and then I was on talking about it. And somebody said, Tim Burchett says that they're underwater bases, you know.

2:18:28And then, you know, and they had Gates was on the other day and he was briefed. I just told what I was briefed on. And he was briefed by a guy that said it was in uniform that said that they were breeding. They were capturing people and breeding them with these aliens. And, you know, he just talked. What? So, yeah, he was on. You can pull it up. I mean, Matt Gates, he talked about it. He didn't say he believed it. But, you know, we talk about we get briefed on. That's what I'm talking about. The PSYOP. Here's part of the problem, too. They bring you information and you go forward with this and this is this is the truth.

2:19:05You know, these underwater bases, whatever. And then they prove it doesn't exist. And then they just discredit you and they discredit the whole movement. So that's why I'm very cautious anytime anybody brings me any information or pictures or testimony or, you know, third cousin's recollection. Yeah. That is the disinformation thing is a problem. They'll tell you some truth and mix it in with some really kooky stuff. And then you say the kooky stuff along with it and the kooky stuff just discredits everything that's true. Yeah. Yeah. And Lazar talked about that, too. He said they would tell people certain things that weren't true, and they would tell different people different things that weren't true.

2:19:45So if the story got leaked out, they would know who leaked it. It was like a hook. So that anchor would be like, oh, that was Mike. Mike told the story. That's when I've always warned our other members when we go into the skiff and talk about stuff that, you know, that's the first time I've ever heard that one. Or that's sort of what we heard the last time. And then I said, everybody, just be real careful with it. Because if it gets out, then they'll come after you. Or they want it to get out so they can discredit you and make you look like a fool. So they talked to you about deep water areas where sightings occur.

2:20:23And so it's just a presumption that somewhere in that deep water they're emanating from that they're. Well, he also he described. It is. Gates claims whistleblower told him of alien human hybrid program. The alleged program involved captured extraterrestrials mating with abducted humans from war zones and migrant caravans to create hybrids for intergalactic communication. He claimed the whistleblower identified between 6 and 12 such facilities in the U.S. and sought coordinated congressional visits to prevent relocation of the activities, though Gates did not verify any of the information. How could you?

2:21:06You're going to talk to the hybrids? Yeah. I just want to go to the T-shirt shop. Yeah, the pastor's thing that I sent you, Jamie. It's bonkers. I don't buy that. I don't. So this is a guy, it says his name is Alan Dido. Yeah. And it's weird. Capital D, lowercase I, capital D, lowercase I, O. Didio. Didio? After sitting in a private meeting with pastors and those connected to these investigations, the message was clear. UFO and UAP disclosure is coming. Pastors must prepare their people now. Silence is not an option. Well, what does that mean? Like, what are they preparing the people for? Like, why would they bring in— A group of pastors I've never heard of.

2:21:52Is this BS? I do. I think it is. I think if he had brought anybody in, he'd brought Franklin Graham in. Is this gentleman a pastor himself? Click on his— Yeah, well, I mean, he also has a show, which is— Of course he does. Of course he does. Oh, so his show is about disclosure? The Revival Nation Church or something. No, no, I don't know that. This is just what these clips are coming around. Can you click on his bio, please? Like what it says? Equipping end time believers for the next great awakening. Oh, boy. I would warn people that think we're in the end times. The Bible is pretty clear about that.

2:22:28It says that they don't even, the angels in heaven don't even know when the end times are. When the end's coming. Yeah. Well, I'm always very suspicious of people that say the end times are coming. I remember when I was living in L.A., there was a billboard. Do you remember those billboards, Jamie? Where the guy was saying a very specific date where the end was coming. The rapture was going to happen. And then it didn't happen. He's like, oh, I got some bad information. It's coming soon. Yeah. I did my math wrong. I remember. I see those all the time. I just shake my head. It ain't happening. Yeah, that's the guy.

2:23:00May 21st, 2011. Cry mightily unto God. Judgment Day. Oh, boy. And look at the gold stamp. The Bible guarantees it. By the way, I read the Bible. I've never read anything where there's a guarantee of this day. May 21st, 2011. Yeah. So when they tell you things, is there anything that they tell you that you could tell us? Like how much of what they told you is like completely top secret that you're not allowed to say until they disclose it? A lot of it. A lot of it. Yeah. Is there anything that really disturbs you? Yeah, we had one meeting and it got into some stuff that they were talking about and the treatment of people and the capabilities.

2:23:46And this was the treatment of people by these supposed extraterrestrials. No, by our own government, but that we're trying to come forward with this stuff. But also, yeah, they told me some pretty creepy stuff. So I would, again, bring this out and then they're busting my ass for it. What do you think is going on? I think it's a cover up. I think there's something else out there. I do not think we're the best that God can do. And I really just don't know, Joe. There's so many options. It could be one of these groups that met with me. They describe several different types of beings, and they go through all of them.

2:24:29How many different types of beings? I don't know. Three, four, five. I don't know. It just changes. I don't get caught up in that. And I tell our guys, I say, look, here's the argument. Just say, I just want to know what we're spending tens of millions of dollars on. That's all. I don't care. It's not about little green man. It's not about flying saucers. is what are we spending this money on if they say they don't exist? That should be the answer, the question, and the answer will come from that. Okay. So if they do exist, when you say you think it's a cover-up, what do you think the cover-up?

2:25:04Well, I think they really do exist, and I don't think that there's such a finite group of people that actually know it. And you've got a lot of charlatans out there that say they know it and they're out there selling memberships. Of course. But I think there's something to it. I'm always very suspicious of anybody who speaks definitively about something like that where you can't possibly know. And then they don't offer up any proof of this. And they say, well, I've seen the pictures. Well, bring me the dadgum pictures. Yeah. But I have seen some pictures and I have seen video and I have seen— What's the most convincing thing that you've seen?

2:25:40I don't know. Those guys came out the house. That was pretty convincing. You know, that was before the hearings that we had. How clear was the video? Clear as the screen. I mean, it was pretty clear. You know, and that was pre-AI. AI was such a new thing. And then it fit in with the Tic Tac videos were. And the heat signature is what I always thought was unusual because it had to have a heat signature, but it didn't. Right. It's zero point energy, whatever that is. Right. And just the quantum physics angle of it is mind-blowing to me. And you have no knowledge of what's supposed to be released?

2:26:25Because today is Wednesday. I'm going to know tomorrow at 3. Tomorrow at 3 p.m. Is that when the world knows? No. I think they're going to ask me, just give me a little bit of it. But I got a feeling they're not going to tell me much. I got a feeling they're not going to tell America much. much. When is it supposed to be disclosed this week? Whatever. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But if they're going to disclose it to us, then it'll be out right as soon as they hang up the phone with some guys. Do you feel an obligation if they don't release it to try to tell people what, you know, I do.

2:26:59I do. I do. I think it's because I don't like it if they're lying to us. And I, again, I don't think Trump knows. I mean, these people have kept this stuff secret. Here's another thing. I was in at one meeting and a guy said, I said, what about the president on this? And he said, the president's on a need to know basis. Now, that's a federal employee saying that he or she has information that the president is not allowed to see. And I just was aghast, man i said you know you that's the kind of crap you see on some the sci-fi network or something but that that'd be the title of my book i mean that that that ought to tell you right there that that this thing is a is a cover-up and i don't and i and it's kind of like mk ultra i don't think we're going to get the they're not going to tell us everything i really don't i don't think they're going to give us half of what we should get but you think we're going to get something i think going to get something.

2:28:01Do you know Hal Putoff? Do you know Hal Putoff? Do you know Hal Putoff? No, I don't. Do you know who he is? I thought you were saying, I thought you were saying, Hal Putoff you are right now. I was like, Hal Putoff are you? Hal Putoff was in the documentary as well. He was in the Age of Disclosure and he was a guest on the podcast. And one of the things that he told me is that during the Bush administration, they brought in him and a bunch of other scientists and thought leaders. And what was explained to him was that they are considering disclosure and that there have been visits of these super intelligent beings from somewhere else that we have retrieved crashed vehicles and that we have biological remains.

2:28:42And we are talking about disclosing. We would like you to make a list of all the ways that it'll negatively affect society and all the ways that it'll positively affect society and attach a numerical value to these things. And they all did it. And every one of them said the negatives far outweigh the positives in terms of the impact on government, the impact on the economy, religion, all these different factors and how it would disrupt society. And in the end, they decided not to disclose. Yeah. I've heard that many times. I just don't buy it. You don't buy it? I don't buy it. I mean, I don't doubt what he's saying.

2:29:20I know all those guys, Now that you mentioned I was in the movie, of course, and I met them all afterwards. But I just don't buy that. I think we should know. Let us know. Let us decide. No, I believe that too. But I wonder what that meeting was like and whether or not they were being truthful to these people or whether it was a thought experiment. Allegedly, when they told Jimmy Carter, he cried. That's what I heard too. I won't go into all of it, but I was in a meeting. What would make him cry? I don't know. I know he's a very sensitive guy. I understand, but I mean, I cried when I saw Old Yeller.

2:29:56Yeah, I did too. Still cry. But he had seen a UFO. You know, he was on a Navy sub, nuclear sub. And I don't know if he saw that when he was on the sub or not. I can't remember. But, you know, here he is. That guy was President of the United States. They told him something and supposedly he cried. And I was in the meeting, and that was brought up. and the guy that they were trying to trip up gave the date of that meeting. And he said, you can go to the Carter Library and pull up that date and you'll know there's one person they omitted their name, which who knows who that was, but they list the meeting and where he was when he got that briefing.

2:30:40Wow. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either. I don't know if that's true or not. They also say Nixon pulled up one night to Jackie Gleason's. I know that story. Well, you know, Jackie Gleason built that crazy house in upstate New York. Do you know about that? Do not. Oh, you don't? It was for sale a while back. Jackie Gleason essentially built a UFO house. He built a house that looked like a flying saucer. No kidding. Yeah, it was for sale fairly recently within the last few years. That's the house. Oh, crap. That's a house Jackie Gleason built after supposedly Richard Nixon took him.

2:31:18So supposedly the story was they were golfing, out drinking, and Richard Nixon's like, hey, you want to see some shit? And then he took him to see this UFO somewhere on some base. The story is very vague. It's hard to tell what actually happened. But apparently people that knew Jackie Gleason said it profoundly affected him. and Jackie Gleason became obsessed with UFOs afterwards. And then he had this house built, the shape of a UFO, which is, I mean, not evidence, but weird. That's very weird. Weird. Yeah. And Nixon was a very serious guy. That would have been an interesting scenario. Indeed.

2:32:01But I just wish they'd show us everything. Yeah, me too. Well, we'll see. We'll see. what comes out this week. But thank you very much for being here. I really appreciate it. It was great to talk to you. I wish I could get you to move to East Tennessee. Why? Well, we saved Texas ass, man. Did you? Davey Crockett. Yeah, Davey Crockett. Oh, back in the day. Yeah, he said he was in Congress and got beat. He was a state legislator, and he got beat in Congress. And he said, as for us, his quote was, as for me, he says, as for you all, you can all go to hell. As for me, I'm going to Texas. He goes to Alamo and gets killed.

2:32:38but he parlayed that into a Disney special, so he kind of evened out. Sort of. Sort of. I'm very partial to Texas. We're low-tech state. I know. Texas is low-tech state. I just love it here. I love a lot of things about Texas. I love the people. It's a fun place to be. My buddy Chip Roy, he's leaving. He's from down here. A bunch of these guys in Congress are down here that are leaving. And they're going to Tennessee? No, they're coming down here. Oh, they're coming down here. He's running for AG down here. But no, they're all coming home. They're tired of Washington. Yeah. Latrell told me. I said, why are you leaving Congress, dude?

2:33:12And he says, I want to spend time with my family. My kids are growing up. And I was like, can't argue with that, brother. Yeah. And the pressure of Congress, the pressure of Washington, D.C. is just so odd. I've only been there a couple times. But every time I'm there, when I leave, I'm like, yuck. It's like when I used to minister to a guy in prison. And when you leave Brushy Mountain State Prison, I call it that institutional smell. Whatever they use to clean that place, you just smell like it for—you can smell it in your nose for days later. And that's—Washington, D.C., it's more of a filthy smell.

2:33:46Yeah, it's a weird place. I guess it's necessary, supposedly. But it's odd to visit. But I appreciate people like you. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. And I appreciate you doing the right thing, especially for our veterans and on Disclosure and all the other hot-button issues. And you got hecklefish right there. I do. Hecklefish. He said my name on his show one time. Yeah, I love that show. It's great. He said my name one time. He said it wrong, but he's a Yankee, so I guess it's okay. It's like Burchette or something. Thank you very much. It was awesome. All right, thank you. Bye, everybody.