#2548 - Brian Simpson

25:32He's a proven liar. He lied about the gain of function research. He lied about the transmission, lied about the infection, the potential of the vaccine to stop infection and transmission. He lied about how deadly it was for kids. He lied about the death rate. There's proof of all of this. I remember when you sent me that book. It was like, who wrote that book? Which one? RFK Jr.? The real Anthony Fauci? Was that a book you sent me? This was like during the pandemic or right after the pandemic. You got to read this. Probably. That was it. I never read it. You should listen to the audio version.

26:01It's really good. I just don't think he's that interesting. Who? Fauci? Yeah, because he's not. Well, here's something that should interest you. He used this AIDS vaccine on foster kids in New York and killed them. Really? Yes. They experimented on foster children in New York State and killed them with this vaccine that he was trying. He was trying to develop a vaccine for air quotes AIDS. And in doing so, he killed a bunch of kids. So why they can't put him in prison for that? Because no one's chasing after him for that. No one's chasing after him for anything other than the most recent thing.

26:33But the more you dig into this guy, and if you read The Real Anthony Fauci by RFK Jr., that book is fucking horrifying. Well, if they start locking people up for what they did to foster children, there's going to be a lot of motherfuckers going to prison. I bet you that's where they start experimenting. Of course. They have no parents. They have no parents and they're children and they can't say shit. No one's going to believe them. They know better and they tell others it's going to make you feel better. Exactly. Yeah. And they're probably already troubled. So, you know, and they probably already have health problems because they're probably not getting good nutrition.

27:02They're probably under stress all the time. And fuck, man, they're probably parents were drug addicts or alcoholics. That's a distinct possibility. It's fucking, the book is horrible. And I always say, look, if it's not true, why hasn't anybody sued him? That's a good point. He's the head of HHS now. I mean, I don't think he's wrong. And I had the same opinion of him that a lot of people have. You don't think I thought RFK Jr. Oh, I don't think he's wrong. I think I think it's very well researched. I think he's telling the truth about all this. And when I was, you know, a quote unquote liberal when I was living in California, I thought he was a kook when he was talking about vaccines and all this.

27:44I thought he was just an anti-vaccine, anti-science nutter that also happened to be a Kennedy. See, that's how I feel about him. Because you don't pay attention to what he says. That is a good point. Yeah. Because it's hard to listen to. It's hard to listen to him talk. Well, if you hear his voice. Yeah. But the thing is, the book is written and then someone else reads it. So it's not he. That would be torture. When you talk like that and then you say some crazy shit. Yeah. You sound like a. Yeah, exactly. Like a troll or something. Well, the thing about him that's really interesting is he was a well-respected guy for the longest time because he was an environmental attorney.

28:22And what he was doing was stopping corporations from polluting rivers. Like he's responsible for cleaning up the East River in New York State, in New York City. He's literally responsible for that. Like he held those – he went to court. He held those people accountable, made them clean it up. Like he was a legit guy. And then these women kept showing up at some of these events that he had where he would give speeches on the toxic poisons, mercury in the ground, all these different things that are the problems of pollution that enters into communities. And these ladies started saying, you need to look at mercury and vaccines.

28:57And he was like, what? Fucking crazy bitches. I'm not listening. And like this woman literally showed up and said, I'm not leaving unless you read this. And he's all right. Well, let me let me look at it. And then he started looking in. He was like, holy fuck. And then when you see the, when they, first of all, the biggest mistake they ever did was give these vaccine manufacturers complete immunity. So is he the reason we don't use mercury in the vaccines anymore? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. They use a different kind of mercury and then they started using them. They use methylmercury and ethylmercury.

29:30I forget which one. And one of them, they said, it leaves the body quicker. but the problem with that is it also crosses the blood brain barrier like any amount of mercury is bad then they start using aluminum you know the way you know how a vaccine works i mean generally roughly yeah so you have a an inert um virus and then you have an irritant and the irritant is like aluminum and your body reacts to that and then recognize the virus and builds immunities towards that virus, the dead virus that's in the vaccine. And they were using mercury as this irritant, as this thing that causes this immune response.

30:08And mercury is fucking terrible for you. Did you see the thing? They just found something. It potentially could be the first thing in history to be the cure and its own vaccine. They found, like, frog venom. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. No, bacteria in a frog's gut. Yes. Something Americanis. I forget what it is. Here's one thing important before we get off the vaccine autism thing. The guy who wrote the study that's often quoted about vaccines not causing autism just got arrested for fraud. The guy that's often. So the scientist whose paper they quote when they say, here's the proof that vaccines don't cause autism.

30:55See if you can find that article. He just got arrested for fraud. What kind of fraud? We're going to find out. But people around Fauci, this is what's interesting, that don't have a pardon from Biden are getting arrested now. And that's interesting. They're being tried and they're being charged. So it's going to get weird. And that guy, he feels the heat. Autism vaccine arraigned in the United States. Danish physician co-authored work demonstrating no links between childhood vaccines and autism. And what is he arraigned for? Co-authored key papers demonstrating no links between childhood vaccines and autism was arraigned on federal wire fraud and money laundering charges.

31:36After his extradition from Germany, the Department of Justice said. He was a co-author of a 2002 study published in the New England Journal of Medicine that offered strong evidence based on a cohort of 500 ,000 Danish children that refuted the hypothesis that measles, mumps, and rebellion of vaccination caused autism. Who hasn't done a little money laundering? Yeah. He's a dirty guy, and he probably was getting paid to make that study. And there's a long history of scientists doing that, all the way back to the scientists that were paid off by the sugar industry to show that it was cholesterol and saturated fat that was causing heart attacks and not sugar.

32:16They paid these guys$50 ,000. That's it? That's it. In like whatever year it was. And these guys fucked us up. Man, you can get a couple senators for$50 ,000. Oh, you get a lot of people. You get a lot of people for$100K. That's the right amount. Well, what are they what have they done here in Texas with the fucking THC ban? Who's asking for that when 70 % of the state wants it to be legal and Somehow or another they made it illegal and the alcohol lobby is involved and they've been losing money You know alcohol companies are losing money right now people are drinking a lot less. Texas runs on drugs It's crazy to people that pretend like pretend otherwise.

32:56It's like everyone's always on something Well, if they're not on something illegal, they're on something legal. And that's where it gets weird. Like, who decides what's legal and what's not legal? Like, all the border states get high. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, all the states get high. But the border states especially, that's where the drills are coming in. Listen, you could just go to the doctor and say, I can't concentrate, and they'll give you Adderall. Yeah? It's so easy to get Adderall. They'll put you on some powerful shit. They'll put you on speed. You can crush it up and snort it And it's totally legal I mean half the college kids They're going to add a roll and check Half the high school kids High school kids are saying they have ADD And they're getting Adderall I know this for a fact I do have it but I can't take that shit It fucks me up What do you mean you have ADD?

33:45I was diagnosed with that shit What does that even mean? I don't know I don't even think it's real Every time they've tried to give me medicine for it I was like I don't like this I think it's just you think different than other people. That's all it is. And you're bored with stupid stuff that you don't want to pay attention to. But you could focus like a motherfucker when you like something, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's a superpower. When I like something or when there's a sense of urgency. Like if it's like, oh, it's got to happen right in a second. Yeah, I can focus. When you actually have to do something other than you have some shitty job where they tell you what to do.

34:17Like, fuck this. You have ADD. You can't focus. no but yeah the problem I don't have a problem focusing it's just what I can focus on yeah exactly if it's not interesting to me then I'm just that's not a disease man it depends on who you ask that's the problem it's a disease when your boss wants you to do something what the fuck is wrong with him you know I got ADD or when I gotta fill out an application I'll tell you that if you had to fill out a form to get into heaven I'm gonna be burning up in hell I hate paperwork like I just can't Fucking do it I just can't fucking do it Yeah that's not ADD Like I really gotta Well no this is just a separate pet peeve of mine I really can't Because it's always for no reason it's always someone Asking you information that they already have Right they'll mail a form to your house And you gotta put your address on it I get crazy when I go somewhere and like You wanna buy a tire or something like that And they're like can you give us your email address like no you don't believe in ADD at all no I just don't think most people have it no I think most people just don't want to concentrate on the things that are boring to them and I don't think that's a disease I think listen you can use a little discipline it'd probably good to learn how to count there's some stuff that's good but the the actual disease what does that mean it's a disorder that disease okay kind of difference okay disorder but but even a disorder by whose standards by society standards it wants you to have a boring ass job that you don't like or concentrate in boring ass classes that you're not enjoying he can't concentrate he's got ADD the fucking class is boring I bet if you get that kid in front of a video game he can concentrate like a motherfucker probably they probably call it a disorder because most people don't have that problem I don't think most people don't have it I think a lot of people yeah yeah I think if you go to the doctor they'll tell you you have it.

36:10Like even the kids that was get their ass beat, they still can't focus. Like you know they call it, they let your mama come in class and watch you. Yeah, but they're just bored man. They're bored. It's not a disease. If you give those kids something they like, like a game that they like, I bet if there's a sport they like to do, I bet they love that. I bet they're like focused on that. School is fucking boring. It's boring and it's frustrating for children that are filled with energy to have to sit down. I remember this guy, I used to listen to, what was his name, Tom Hartman, I think. But he, I remember hearing him talk about a school they had way back in the day in the Northeast that would, like before they started calling it ADHD, but they would go get these kids that couldn't focus and they would put them all in this one school and they taught completely differently.

36:57Like they would let you, they would let them kind of just do, like if they had a question that's when they would learn whatever they needed to learn to answer that question. They didn't, it wasn't like a super structured curriculum. them so they got to only do what they were interested in and they would have to learn the basics before they could you know finish whatever they were actually interested in and it worked out i don't know why i forget why it ended up getting shut down but it was almost like professor x's academy you know they would go find these weird kids and bring them all to this one place but that like you said it doesn't fit into the standardized this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter if you're a long-time listener or you listen to other shows you know ZipRecruiter is everywhere.

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39:09Exactly. And it was developed by the Rockefellers for that specific reason. Really? Yeah, it was engineered to turn you into a worker. It's not to educate you the most effective way possible. It's to make sure that you can get a job. It's like they just want to turn you into someone they can use. Well, then now they're shipping all the jobs overseas. The problem with whenever the pharmaceutical drug companies are involved, they have such a grip on the media and such a grip on the medical establishment. There's so much money involved. They will come up with disorders that they need to medicate you for because they're extremely profitable.

39:44And that's the problem. Yeah. I mean, but that's every industry. But it doesn't mean Adderall's not awesome. I bet it's great. I feel like the world is just a series of scams. There's a lot of that. It's like whatever scam are you in on? Yeah, I mean, everything's kind of a scam. No. Not everything. Farms aren't a scam. We're a nation of scammers. You give people money, they give you eggs. That's not a scam. There's a lot of things that aren't scams. I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, if you could buy eggs directly from the farmer, then you're not getting scammed. The thing about money and power is at the highest levels, like when you get into government, when you get into enormous corporations that can affect government, then you're going to get a lot of scams because they're just trying to make as much money as possible.

40:33That's a problem. I don't think it was ever intended for a politician to be like your job, for a senator to be like a lifetime. Lifetime. Crazy. And then all of a sudden you have hundreds of millions of dollars through a method no one could really explain, why you're so good at the stock market. and if I just follow all your mirror all your stock trades perfectly yeah yeah regardless of party somehow I get you ever talk to DeRosa about it no DeRosa used to work for the senate in Texas and he's got crazy stories crazy stories about how much money these people are getting donations and this and that and go and do this and go and do that and getting paid to do this and paid to do that that's most of what their job is is fundraising and collecting money from people oh yeah and i and i made the mistake of because i you know i never give politicians money like ever it just doesn't make sense to me to give a rich motherfucker money like i need your money i need money right i need you to go get me but i don't donate to them hardly ever and i made the mistake i sent a politician money recently and i and and then they just they just never stop asking just every week as soon as you put your email down from every week guys we need I just need one more dollar I'm not giving you no fucking money they were trying to raise money for the Democratic Party right after Kamala lost they were sending out emails they're always all in constant that's why the political parties need to constantly keep you scared because that's the only way they can make sure you give them money.

42:15They tell you the sky is falling. Hey, we can't defeat them. It's the end of the world. Yeah. Yeah, it's a dirty business, man. Yeah, there's people that are struggling that are still giving politicians money. Have you seen those people that aren't really giving politicians money but they're listed as giving politicians money and they think it's like NGO money, that they've funneled money through pretending that these people are donating money? And so they can use NGO money and then funnel it into these political parties. And then they knock on these people's doors and they say, hey, did you donate$25 ,000 to the Democratic Party?

42:55And they're like, no. I don't have$25 ,000. But they donated at one point in time many, many years ago. So they have their name on a list. Non-governmental organization. So this is one of the things that Doge, when Elon came in and cleaned up all this USAID stuff, this is part of what was going on. A lot of it was just money laundering. You're taking a bunch of government funds and you have all these different non-government organizations that get money from the government. And then the money is moving in this very cyclical way. And one of the ways they think they were doing it was finding a bunch of people on these lists of people that had donated before and then attributing money to them that they never donated.

43:36So if you gave them$5, they would say you gave$100. Well, they weren't even given any money, but they were using – because they don't get like a receipt. So they just said, oh, Billy Smith donated$25 ,000. Then they knock on Billy Smith's door. Did you donate$25 ,000 to the Republicans? Like fucking no. What are you talking about? So they were just using the fact that they had this kind of list they had all this money that Elon was talking about billions and billions and billions of dollars It was written that they have no receipts for they have no idea where it went and some of that is like moving around Some of it's going to Ukraine Actually, I remember talking to you about this was on here about when he first started doing it I was like as soon as he start fucking with that real money.

44:19He gonna be up out of there Oh, yeah. I thought it was going to happen when he went to the Pentagon. But it's like, as soon as you start, you're not allowed to fuck with the real scams. Right. You can do the surface stuff. You can do stuff that helps poor people. But you can't, if you start fucking with rich people's money, they're going to get your ass going. Well, he was saying that when you get into, like, the Medicaid fraud, he was legitimately worried that he was going to get killed. Because there was so much money. There's so much fraud. You don't hear him talking about that shit no more, do you?

44:47Well, you know what? It cost his company a lot of money. It cost his political reputation. There was a lot of people turned on him after that, where he was like a free speech freedom fighter before that. And this guy who was just like, people loved him. They loved the fact that he's our modern-day Nikola Tesla. He's the guy who's making electric cars and rockets and all these different things. I think that he's going to learn. Like getting in bed with politicians is going to always fuck you over because they use people. They don't give up. They're not your friends. That's true. Yeah. As soon as you ain't useful no more, they throw you in the fucking trash.

45:27But if you don't get in bed with them, somebody else does and then you get fucked. And that's what people get scared of. They're like, well, listen, there's a reality here. If I can affect it in a positive way, I probably should. And the USAID thing was wild. because you know you think of USAID and you think of it you ever you know who Mike Benz is no I'll send you some shit if you're interested but he's the most he's done the most extensive work on USAID and what he basically said was USAID was for things that were too dirty for the CIA and a lot of it is regime change overseas so you think of USAID as aid right right it's not it's agency for international development it's a regime change organization it funds rebel groups in other countries it funds rebel groups it's a front it's front yeah and it's not just one front usaid funds who knows how many ngos who knows how many and non-governmental organizations india has some fucking insane number of ngos the number of ngos are so crazy it's like one forever million people in india and there's a billion people in india something might be crazier than that it's crazy how many NGOs are.

46:39So there's so many companies, or so many non-governmental organizations, it's so hard to keep track of it all. Again, I'm butchering this. I don't have the facts available at my fingertips, but I could send you some of the Mike Benz stuff. But the purpose of the NGO is to funnel money. Funnel money. Okay. Not always. I mean, some of them, I'm sure, are actual charities. There's good people out there that are involved in charities. There's good organizations. Sea Shepherds, awesome. They're awesome. What do they do? Those are the people that are trying to prevent whaling, trying to bust people whaling, Because like some countries, there's a way they can get around whaling by saying it's for research.

47:13I think Japan does that and they bust them. And then they're using them commercially. They kill whales. And these guys do a great job. I mean, there's real charitable organizations that are doing real philanthropy. They're real good people out there. But then there's also scumbags. And they realize that there's a lot of this money flowing around, you know, for aid. That's what you kept hearing. Oh, these children are starving. listen man you need to look at what the real money was going towards and you'd freak out you'd freak out a lot of his regime change you seen that meme of the guy that was like corruption is not bad and only when I am not involved you know what I'm talking about no he's like who's that Idi Amin no no I don't even I don't think he was a famous dictator whatever he was like this African politician just telling people on the news like corruption is not bad Let me hear this dude.

48:12Let me hear it. Start it over. Back it up. If I'm part of that corruption, corruption is not bad. Corruption is only bad if I'm not involved. Yes. But if I'm part of that corruption, I'll defend it. Okay, he's not talking about him. I guarantee you that guy is talking about people who are corrupt, who defend corruption. Really? I think they're taking him out of context. I don't think he's really saying that. You know what's funny? I've actually never looked into it. If I thought about that, that guy doesn't look like a scumbag. The way he's saying it, to me, just my instinct, I could be wrong.

48:46Who is he, Jeremy? Watch him. He's a massive thief. I'm totally wrong. Human rights activist Samson Owimba O 'Jayu. Thank you. Thank you. What's the context of that quote? Listen, he's a human rights activist. Let's leave it at that. Let's move on. Longer speech. Yes. He used irony. Thank you. exaggerated rhetoric to criticize self-serving attitudes towards corruption that's what i thought that's what i thought immediately by the way he was saying it my instincts damn okay you called it yeah i was like that guy does not seem like a scumbag that guy seems like a guy who's fed up with corruption the way he's saying it is not like i am corrupt you give me the money that's not how he's saying it what he was saying was it's people will defend corruption if they're involved And I think he's right Yeah, I think that's yeah Well, the thing is like basically how I go it's motivations man And when you see people getting rich around you you see all these other politicians that are getting fucking filthy stinking rich And you are struggling to pay your mortgage and you're struggling to put your kids into a good school system You're struggling to make your fucking lease on this nice car that you get to drive You're struggling and then you see these other motherfuckers and you go well, it's not it's kind of good anyway and bad I'll get the good done.

50:02I'll do a little bit of shenanigans, but but we'll get it It's good for the district the next thing you know, you got a corporation in their union bus thing, you know Yeah, and you're walking out of a Epstein's house and he's like she's 12. We got you on tape We need this in this in this past Or not even 12. It's just someone other than your wife or someone who you talked to that you didn't realize was a Russian spy and you are some sort of a politician, you're bragging. That's one thing they catch. That James O 'Keefe guy. I don't know who that is. Damn, Brian, you're so uninformed. Yeah, man.

50:43I mind my business on a level that you wouldn't believe. Oh, I know. I like it. I like that you like that. Yeah. And also, you know what it is? It keeps me having fresh, like it keeps me having uncorrupted takes. Because so much now, when you get told the news, you also get told how you're supposed to feel about it. Right. But that's how you were about USAID and RFK Jr. Yeah. Do you know who Fang Fang is, Brian? No. No? Fang Fang is the lady that was banging the guy who wanted to be the governor of California. You don't know that whole scandal? No, wait a minute. That's the lady that... She was a Chinese spy.

51:24Her husband died and she went back to China? No, that's Mitch McConnell. He's not even dead. He's alive. The motherfucker dead. He's alive. And there's photos of him holding a newspaper. Look at me in the newspaper today. This is today's newspaper. I watched him die halfway in a news conference. Did you see the video of him sitting on the Senate floor, not moving at all for hours and hours and hours at a time where everybody's moving around him? No. I sent you that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch this. This is crazy. He's on the Senate floor for 20 hours. And there's like six hours of him motionless.

52:02Yeah, I think the whole thing was only an 18-hour event, so I don't... Okay, whatever it is, 18 hours. He's motionless. Bro, I can't... Is he asleep? He's dead. Oh. It's weekend at Bernie's. They just fired him up with cocaine. And have him sit there. He's back. No, no, no, no. This is old video. Okay, so this is video before he completely short-circuited But it's crazy to watch because I can't do what he's doing What he's doing is like some Zen monk master shit Where he's like sitting in a position and not moving a muscle for hours and hours at a time Where everybody's like moving around and moving back and forth and left and right.

52:36He's not moving look watch this look at him That's only just a clip of it, but He just sits. Also, the guy next to him is just sitting there with him and does it. Yeah, at least that guy's moving his fucking head. McConnell's not moving at all. Dude, it's bizarre. It's bizarre. He's frozen. Look at him. I feel like the dude beside him is the one that's pushing a button to make him vote. Speaking of the voting, he did make a vote at the end of this. Apparently made the wrong vote. Someone noticed he made the wrong vote. Fixed his vote? Yeah, they told his handler, and then he fixed his vote. It was like a thumbs up, and then as he's walking away, it was like thumbs down, and then he keeps walking away.

53:20They don't want to let it go, man. None of them do. It's crazy. Who was the last one they weekended Bernie's? Was it? Dianne Feinstein. Feinstein. Yeah, she was in a wheelchair, didn't know where she was. Bruh. And you're like, you want to vote? Yes. She looked worse than him. Well, she at least can move around a little bit. Like towards the end. Really? And then Ruth Bader Ginsburg. I wonder what it is about. Because that's why power is so scary to me. Because they can't give it up to the last drop. Yeah. It's identity. It's your identity. It's who you think you are. You're the senator. You're the distinguished senator from South Carolina or wherever you're from.

54:00But you're already rich. Ain't you tired? Don't you want to go play with your grandbabies? No. And they never feel rich enough. That's the other thing about trying to get rich. You get accustomed to whatever level you're at, and you want to keep leveling up. Because once you're at the point where you're a senator, you can pretty much do whatever you want to do. You mean money-wise? Not if you're clean. Well, I mean, you have enough power where you can do most things. I mean, you know. Yeah, but the clean ones don't really have a lot of money. The clean ones? The clean ones. The ones who aren't doing the insider trading.

54:31There ain't no clean ones. There's a few. There's a bunch of people that you can find lists of them online where they are not participating in any of that. And then you look at their income, you look at their wealth, they're not worth a lot of money. Senators. Senators. They live like a person who makes$170 ,000 a year, which is a good living, but that's how they live. All right. I want to see that list. I want to know who it is. There's plenty of them. Actually, I don't. I'm not going to. Tim Burchett. Isn't he one of them? I don't know if it's who. I don't think he's ever been accused of any of that.

55:00There's a bunch of these people that are clean. And look, man, it's such a dirty business. See, I bet you there's a correlation between the people that are clean and the people that haven't been doing it for that long. Yeah. You know, I think if you stick around, once you start getting them committees and because that's the real power. Once you start being on these committees and being a chair and this and that, you start because that's when you deal directly with industries and they start bribing you and shit. And then there's also this thing where you retire and you go work for them. Yeah. And they ain't letting no new people get committees.

55:36That's true. Nah. No, no, no, no, no. So it's like they're not letting you near any of the real power unless you play ball. Exactly. Either you doing this corruption or we got you on tape doing something, but you ain't. Yeah, we're all dirty. Yeah. Yeah. That's why every time, regardless of how much they fight in public, Democrats and Republicans, every time it's time to get a self-raise, they all vote yes. It's never no filibuster. It's never no controversy. They all take a little more money. Well, that's also why they haven't stopped this insider trading thing. Because they're both doing it.

56:08It's why they won't release the Epstein files. It's why they won't tell us who shot Kennedy.

56:16It's also why they have this blind support of Israel. And they know why. They're getting paid. Paid. Yeah. Paid. Or blackmailed. Paid or blackmailed. Or both. Paid, blackmailed, or both. Or there's a lot of those kooky, fundamentalist Christians that have an allegiance to Israel because they think Jesus is going to come back there. Oh, I guess I didn't think about that. Oh, there's a ton of them. There's a ton of them Mike Huckabee-type characters. Wait a minute. Wasn't you telling me something about the Old Testament when I walked in? We were talking. Jamie was bringing up something about Moses.

56:52We're going to bring that up. Yeah. it was just like following the story of i guess it'd be like literally following the story and just sort of like you know putting it through a filter about things i know or we know now Hold on a second. But like, yeah, I guess what do you know about that story off the gate? Which part of the story? You were talking about the Ten Commandments? Well, it's how Moses found. Moses in the burning bush is Exodus 3. I guess that's how it's titled. That's where he finds the Ten Commandments. So he sees a burning bush or a bush that is burning and not burning up, you know, like not being consumed by the fire.

57:32Correct. and then an angel of God speaks to him, tells him to take off his shoes because he's on holy ground. And then depending on which reading of the Bible translation you're finding, he either finds the tablets or they're like presented to him or something. He then takes the tablets down off of the mountain, sees the people worshiping a golden calf, breaks the tablets. Then they have to go make them again. And this is where I started getting in this place of where I was researching language and cuneiform and whatnot, I'm like, how many people back then knew actually how to write, read, and then how, like, we've gone on sidetracks with it.

58:15It might be an acacia bush, and he might have been high on DMT or something like that. Oh, he was probably high. And so it says he found them. So what did he find and where did they come from? I think that's a big part of a lot of these ancient religious stories. and there's a bunch of scholars out of the University of Jerusalem that they first came up with this theory that the acacia tree the burning bush was in fact a psychedelic plant and this like what happens when you smoke DMT you have crazy experiences and visions you meet entities and this is probably what he probably got a giant dose of DMT from a burning bush yeah I think that That's also, didn't Joseph Smith also find some tablets?

58:57Yeah. I think, see, I'm always fascinated by people like, the people that have founded religions and stuff, because it's like, how charismatic do you have to be for people to buy that? For you to go in the woods and come back and go, hey, I spoke to God, and he told me this was all the rules. It's not me saying it. Because think about who you would believe would say that today. A good day starts with a solid morning routine. So if something's missing, if your body isn't getting what it needs, everything can feel off. AG1 is designed to help fill the holes. Their next-gen formula is dialed in with over 75 ingredients, minerals, vitamins, adaptogens, and more, clinically shown to fill nutrient gaps and increase healthy gut bacteria.

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1:00:36We don't immediately trust authority. We're reluctant to believe people. We're very skeptical. You tell me something wacky, I'm like, wait, what happened? Where were you? You found a bush. The bush was on fire. Shut the fuck up. Especially if you start asking me for money. Right. But there's a lot of people that they're not confident at all, and they're very easily persuaded. And those people fall in line. Like people that fall into cults. Like the cult that owned the building that I almost bought. That One World Theater. Have you ever watched that documentary? Mm-mm. That guy, I mean, he was basically an obvious kook.

1:01:14he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist and developed this cult out of his yoga students and if you've ever taken yoga before it gets very culty there's a lot of people that are teaching the yoga that they look there's yoga teachers that are very cool and just really cool peaceful spiritual people that really enjoy teaching yoga and making people's lives better for sure but there's also people that get into a position of power like being the spiritual leader of a yoga class and then they start abusing that power that's the story of like Bikram like if you you know you've watched the documentary on that guy that did Bikram's joke he's fucking everybody he was a wild dude he had Rolls Royces like he was living like like a psychopath and it's all cult stuff it's like you have that kind of power over these people was he also fucking people's wives I'm sure because that feels like no but I mean it feels like that's a through line oh yeah in a lot of cults like at some point he's like I'm supposed to be fucking your wife God told me I get to fuck your wife yeah there's a surprising amount of comics that were raised in cults or escaped cults Kurt Metzger yeah Kurt Metzger, Abby Roberge I forget her name there's a girl at the mothership that I've met I've probably met like maybe five or six comics that were like oh yeah I was in a cult makes sense well Ari was orthodox Jewish like heavily like studying the Torah 12 hours a day like the whole deal lived in Israel in the kibbutz like he did the whole deal Who are Shafir?

1:02:52Ari Shafir was deeply religious deeply deeply religious and then What's like he got older he got into his like early 20s like what the f this is fucking nonsense Like what the fuck are we doing? And then he became a comic like did a full 180 yeah i mean that's a motherfucker that's gonna do whatever you want to do yes well especially what he's been through with you know being in that religious environment like hyper religious environment he is just completely allergic to any rules any any authority any people telling people what to do and how to behave and how to think fuck you he's just he has none of that in him well this is the truth man this was just what i found is that most of the time the people telling you how you're supposed to live.

1:03:38People that make it their whole personality to tell other people how to live, they usually are living like shit. They're doing some shady shit almost every time. It's definitely that. And then there's another thing that happens with people that don't have kids in particular. And it happens with, I mean, I don't want to generalize, but it seems like it's Republicans too, but it's a lot of liberal women. Liberal women with no children want to turn the world into their children. They want to like scold the world like they're doing the wrong thing. And they're they're worried about the environment and they're worried about the future and they're worried about voting and they're worried about rights, and they're worried about the immigrants.

1:04:14They're worried about the this and they're worried about that. They're taking care of the world like it's the child that they don't have. Those all sound like good things. Well, it depends on which which angle you're taking on any of these things. You know, I mean, you use those things as an excuse to be a cunt. Then they're not good things. You know, I just heard a lady talking about this. She called it i don't want to fuck it up she called it um don't worry about it that very same thing no but people that don't have children no no no it she was talking more along the lines of like of what of like cancel culture and what it's born out of um basically like defining yourself She called it like slave morality or master slave morality, where she was saying like the ruling class traditionally defines themselves as like the way they behave as good and just.

1:05:18Like, you know, things like being beautiful and being successful. And then the slave morality is defining yourself as not those things. Right. Like you're saying that like I'm a good person because I'm not those things. And you have and then you have to see I'm gonna fuck this up you're gonna have and then you have to Demonstrate that morality but by punishing people Master and slave morality to opposing value systems introduced by the philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche in his 1887 book on the genealogy of morality Master morality is an active self affirming value system created by the strong wealthy and ruling class definition of good masters look at themselves and define what is good based on their own traits such as strength power nobility beauty courage and wealth definition of bad bad is simply a secondary descriptive term for what is common plain or low not evil perspective it's an inward looking it's inward looking and focuses on action and achievement rather than reacting to others Slave morality's reactive defensive value system born from resentment.

1:06:29Resentiment? Why does it say resentment? Is that how you say it? Deep-seated resentment. What is resentment? Have you ever seen that word? Deep-seated resentment. Oh, it's deep-seated resentment. It's deep resentment. And powerlessness experienced by the oppressed or the heard. Definition of evil. Slaves begin by defining what they fear or cannot attain in their oppressors as evil. For example, power, pride, wealth, and strength. Definition of good. Good is created in reaction to evil, defined as the opposite of the master's traits, praising humility, meekness, obedience, empathy, and forgiveness.

1:07:09Well, the interesting thing is cancel culture does not have much forgiveness. Nor does it have empathy for opposing thoughts. No, but the woman I saw speaking, she goes into that about how, like, you get to the point where, because human beings are all those things, right? It's like you trying to define yourself as one or the other, you have to reinforce your morality by, basically, let me put it in my own words. Everyone is looking for a reason to be their worst self. Like you're looking for a reason to be evil, to like exercise your nastiness. And the way to do that is by defining someone else as bad.

1:07:47So then you get to say, you know, normally I would never burn down somebody's house, but they voted for such and such. Like normally I would never, you know, yell at someone's kids, but they had this sticker on their car. It's like you start having to define what other people are so that you can espouse your morality. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. It's weak people. We're all looking for—I think it's just human nature. Yeah, but that's a weakness. To not be able to objectively look at why you're upset at things is a weakness. It's a psychological weakness. But we all have weak spots where there's things that you are not objective about.

1:08:29Sure. Like you have blind spots, you know? Yes. Or it's like you hear somebody died and the first thing you want to know is, well, how did they die? Right? Because you're trying to figure out. You're looking for a reason to not care. No. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't do that. Okay, let me tell you something. What if I tell you? I never look for a reason to not care. What if I tell you somebody died doing something stupid? Well, you know, people doing something stupid is stupid. I mean, it's not that I don't care. It's not like I'm looking for a reason to not care. But it's like I'm looking for a reason whether or not I should be really sad or really upset.

1:09:02Right. Or you can go, well, you know, maybe you're not looking for a reason that I care. But when you get one, you go, oh, thank God. You know, I don't have to go through the emotions because that dude strapped itself to a rocket. Yeah. Well, there's always people like that. There's always people that do stupid shit that you don't feel bad for if they die. And interesting enough, it's more men than women. That don't want to feel bad? Yeah. I never laugh when women die. Like, but men die, if men die doing something stupid, like a dude runs with the bulls and he gets a horn up his asshole. It's like, okay, bro.

1:09:34Yeah. I'm trying to think about. What are you doing? Why are you doing that? If I've ever laughed at a woman dying. I feel bad when women die. I don't think so. Yeah, bro. I have so, like, I was telling the homie just yesterday, but like, I got the Captain Saber ho gene from both sides. It's dominant. It's not recessive. I'm such a soft, like. You're a compassionate person. Girl tears. I'm just like, all right, fine, take it. Take whatever you want. You're a nice person. That's what it is. That's one word for it. But it can be manipulated with the wrong ladies. Yep, facts, facts. That's all it is.

1:10:08You just got to find a good woman. And if you find just good people in general, and then you don't have to worry about being manipulated because they're not trying to manipulate you. But you have to be manipulated a bunch of times to recognize the pattern. And you go, okay. Why is that? Because I have definitely watched videos of women getting hurt and laughed. Well, I watched this one Mexican lady lay some bitches out on 6th Street, and I wanted to sign her for the UFC. Really? Whoo! This chick had a fucking haymaker, dude. She was wide, and she gets in a brawl with these chicks. The shoes are off immediately, and this girl's throwing bombs, like Amanda Nunes right hands.

1:10:46Flatlining chicks. She filmed it. I didn't watch it personally. I'm never on 6th Street. I can't walk around. No, no, no, no. This bitch was stout. Those are white chicks. They can't fight. As soon as you see this, as soon as you see the leaning back and the punching at the same time, nothing good's happening. This chick was tucking her chin and throwing like this. Boom! She was throwing power shots. She was flatlining chicks. Oh, this girl? Nope, that's not it. They're doing the same thing. See the leaning back? There's no power in leaning back. She actually punched her in the nose. That's all that is.

1:11:18She had a good stance as you were saying it. Yeah, bad posture, terrible form. This lady, at one point in time, someone taught her how to punch, or she's just a natural talent. Some people, yeah, some people have natural talent. Yeah, because, see, that's the thing. If they deserve it, I'll watch them get punched. Bro, my friend Tommy, my friend Tommy Jr., have you met him, Tommy? No. One of my oldest friends. He's been my friend for 35 years. He had this girl that he was dating for a while, and he was always telling me she was, like, a strong girl. She worked out a lot. He's like, dude, she can punch, man.

1:11:47That fucking machine, she can punch. I go, really? So I'm skeptical, but I'm open-minded. And I go, how hard do you punch? She goes, I punch fucking hard. And I go, okay, hit my hand. And she hit my hand. I held my hand up. And she fucking cracked my hand to the point where, like, oh, that could knock me out. Like, that could knock me out. I just found it. Right as you said, hit my hand. I fucking hit play on. Ah, damn it. I hit play on that one, and that was it. Where is it? It's right here. Sensitive cunt. Yep, that's her. Oh, my God. No shoes. Bro, bro, look at that punch. I'm gonna watch this again.

1:12:22Watch this again back it up to the beginning. Oh It's a Instagram video this chick. Okay. She's got sandals on she's not barefoot. This is a this is earlier in the video I think it starts off with the highlight, you know, and then bro. You'll show yeah, her do her shoes do come off right? This chick can fucking crack dude. Yeah, shout out to the Texas Street Fights guy Try to watch it again. All right, here we go. Ready watch this Boom! Oh, my God. See the hips? See the hips and the shoulder? From now on, every time I come on the podcast, this is all I want to do. Bro, that girl can fight. That girl can.

1:12:56Look at her, throw that chick down. She's stout, too. Ground and pound. Vicious. Sign her up. That first punch was incredible. And then the hip toss. A hammer, dude. She threw a hammer. All her body was into that. She pushed off her feet, everything. That was excellent. If I was their coach, I'd be like, fuck, yeah. That was great. God damn. See, you got to be, if you're hitting motherfuckers like that, you got to be careful, man. You could kill somebody. Oh, 100%. You know? 100%. Yeah. She's not even looking. Yeah, that girl's looking away, too. This bitch. Look at this bitch. She doesn't even know the fight started.

1:13:35Bro, one more time. Give me one more time. Boom! Oh, my God. Flat line. Yo, she never had a concussion. You saw her foot was moving? Not only that, her head bounced off the ground. That's the scary part. You fuck around, man. The scary part is when the head bounces off the ground. That's when people die. I'm so glad I'm at the age now where I ain't trying to fight no motherfucking body. Yeah, fuck that, dude. But you know when you're young and you're in your 20s and you're like, fuck him, what's up then? Yeah, dude, I never got in fights. That shit could go wrong so many ways. I never got in fights.

1:14:06I got in a couple fights in high school. That's it. And before that, I got in a couple fights. Very few amount of street fights in my career. Yeah. Yeah, all organized. I've had a lot of organized fights, a lot of agreed-to fights. I've had a lot of matches where I knew I was preparing for and I had fights. It's been a long time. The last time I got into a serious fight, man, it was when I was still a doorman at an Irish pub. Irish pubs are famous for fights. And I remember this dude had, he came with, he forgot his ID. Him and his girl came, and she had her ID, and he didn't have his. And then he went back to get his ID.

1:14:52His girl started drinking. He was gone for like an hour. And she kept coming out, talking my fucking head off, coming out, talking my fucking head off. Because that's how you can tell when people are drunk. They'll tell you the same story they told you 10 minutes ago. and uh and the last time she came out to talk to me she she left her phone on my i had like a little table beside me and then she came back out to smoke again and and and the boyfriend came up behind her and like picked her up you know romantic whatever and and i went to go hey you left the phone and i turned the point of the phone and he just clocked me and my my head bounced against the frame of the door.

1:15:34And we get right to it. I'm whooping this boy's ass real bad and the cops come out of nowhere. This is in San Diego. I think it's Adams Avenue. But it's where, it's basically like 6th Street. I know it is. And the cops just come out of nowhere. And they were all on my side. They put us both in handcuffs and then they were like, what happened? And the bartender was like, he works here and fuck that guy. And they were like, what do you want to do? I was like, what the motherfucker do? Anyway, that guy, later on, I found out that guy, he ended up beating the shit out of the girl getting arrested.

1:16:03You know? But he just hit me for no reason. And what was so funny is when I started whooping his ass, he completely, he was like a psycho. He completely was like, why are you doing this? What's happening? And he just punched the shit out of me for no reason at all. Never said two words to this dude except, do you have your ID? He just punched the fuck out of me. He went straight from showing his girl all this affection and then punching me in the face. He's probably on drugs. He's probably on drugs or some kind of... He probably got some kind of... Mental health issue. What do you call it? Emotional dysregulation or something like that.

1:16:38Mood swings. Definitely not a healthy person. Because I don't think it was... Like, it wasn't... Like, he didn't... He wasn't acting confused. He was actually confused as to why I was whooping his ass. You understand what I'm saying? It wasn't acting. It wasn't... Because it doesn't give me that vibe of like he was trying to like get people, come help. Right? It wasn't like that. He was genuinely like, why are you doing this, man? What's going on? Like he seriously didn't understand. Did you have glasses on at the time? No. I should have. I was supposed to, but I just couldn't. That's a real problem, isn't it?

1:17:17You get punched with glasses on? That's never happened to me. Really? No. I just recently started caring about my vision. Dude, I knew a lot of guys who would fight in the UFC with contacts on. Oh, that's insane. Yeah. I know a dude who got staph infection on his eyeball because he picked up his contact off the mat and put it back in his eye. That is. See, that's what I mean. See, I don't care about that guy. I don't care. Because why would you. He was a kid. That was always a child. No, but, you know, 18, 19-year-old kid didn't know any better. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think he got really fucked up from it, too.

1:17:57I don't know if he lost his eye, but it was like a serious problem. And I've heard of that more than once. It's kind of scary. See, that's the thing. If it's harmless and you did some stupid shit, it's definitely funny. Right. If it's harmful and you were doing some stupid shit, it's 50-50. If it's harmful and you were doing some stupid shit trying to harm somebody else, It's funny every single time. Yeah. You go to throw a punch and you slip and fall down a fly of stairs and break your leg. Yeah, that's why my first thing, when you tell me somebody died, I'm like, how did they die? You don't get to say it's private or respect the family.

1:18:32If you're not going to tell me how they died, then keep it to yourself. Because I need to know how to feel. Well, it's that story I tell on stage about the missionary who delivered the Bible to the uncontacted tribe and they murdered him. Like, nobody feels bad for that guy. No. No. Nope. Because I think deep down we are mind your business people's like, hey, you should be minding your business. You know, it's like those people, they because it takes work to stay uncontacted. Sort of. They're stuck. Those people are stuck. North Central people are stuck. What's really crazy, if you know the story behind them, you understand why they're so hostile to outsiders.

1:19:09Why? Because there was a guy named Commander Maurice Vidal Portman. And he was this explorer slash pervert who was traveling around like an English gentleman who was traveling around to these islands. And he would do weird shit like he would dress them up weird and take photos of them and make like these descriptions of them. He wrote about this one guy. He had testicles the size of a sparrow's egg. So he's describing this guy's testicles. So he's doing some freak shit to these people. They also kidnapped. How big is a sparrow's egg? Why is that? I don't know. I guess a little. He just was comparing.

1:19:46Guy had little testicles. Probably malnourished. He's stuck on a fucking island. Like these people were direct descendants of, you know, this place, North Sentinel Island, and this island chain that's out there, they're completely uncontacted. And this North Sentinel Island only has 39 people, roughly estimated, living on it. And they're stuck. And they have been visited in the past by people, but it went horribly wrong. And one of them, they kidnapped, I think they kidnapped two children and possibly their grandparent as well. And then they gave them something like the flu or some sort of a disease and the people died.

1:20:22They had no immunity to these outside diseases, just like the Native Americans didn't. You know, when the Europeans showed up, you know, this is the thing that killed literally 90 percent of Native Americans died from like smallpox because it just spread like wildfire. They had no immunity. Oh, it's bad. When people talk about the genocide of Native Americans, yes, absolutely. They definitely murdered a lot of the Native American tribes. However, the vast majority of them died from disease. Let's throw that into our AI-sponsored perplexity. What percentage of Native Americans died from disease because of the European settlers?

1:21:03I think it's really high. Are these the people you were talking about yesterday that they don't have a... No, no, no, no. That was different. That's the guy from the Amazon who went to live with these people. How do you say their name again? Piraha? The Piraha people. Fascinating. Wow, that was one of the most interesting podcasts I've had in a long time. The guy was really cool. Roughly 50 to 90 percent of indigenous people in many effective regions died in epidemics after European contact. Some older, continent-wide estimates put disease-related losses as high as about 90 to 95%. Fuck, dude.

1:21:44God damn. Fuck. Just fucking imagine that. I mean, imagine you've got no medication and then on top of that, you have no immunity to these dirty Europeans that are coming over and fucking everybody. and smallpox, measles, influenza, typhus, and others. Everything. Everything. The fucking full Monty. Crazy. I guess, damn, I didn't know it was at that scale. Well, especially when you're dealing with Europeans that are living in these squalor-like conditions. So Native Americans lived in these nomadic, especially the Comanche, nomadic tribal existence where they had tents and horses and they were traveling around and going to different places.

1:22:31They didn't live in their own shit. So the Europeans were living in these fucking places where they'd take a pot of shit and throw it out the window. Their streets were filled with horse shit. They had shit everywhere. And they were wrong about why people were getting sick. They didn't realize, oh, the shit is in the drinking water. Yeah, it's everywhere. Because back then, there was a time where they believed in vapors. You know what I'm talking about? Like that time where everything was spirits and alignment, and they were just completely wrong about why people were getting sick downriver. It took a long time for people to connect, and it was like, oh, because we're shitting up here, and then we're pumping our drinking water.

1:23:16Well, the first doctor to realize that you should wash your fucking hands before you operate on people or give birth or help someone give birth, no one thought that was necessary. They didn't realize. like you have disease you have germs in your fucking hands he was ridiculed the first doctor that said that I think we should wash our hands who is that guy why don't we celebrate that guy I know we should I think probably the medical establishment probably does he may have saved more lives than anyone right yeah I mean you gotta think before they had microscopes they were just guessing when did it start being a thing to wash your hands well for physicians here's the guy, Ignaz Semmelweis.

1:24:02Oh, that's why we don't celebrate him. Your name's hard to say. Too rough. You can't have two hard names. Hungarian medical doctor and scientist of German descent who was an early pioneer of antiseptic procedures, known as the savior of mothers. Postpartum infection, also known as purpural fever or childbed fever, was common in the 19th century and often fatal. Semmelweis demonstrated that the incidence of infection could be drastically reduced by requiring health care workers in obstetrical clinics to disinfect their hands. In 1847, he proposed hand washing with chlorinated Lyme solutions at Vienna General Hospital's first obstetrical clinic where doctors' wards had thrice the mortality of midwives' wards.

1:24:52Wow. I think it's obstetrical. Obstetrical? Obstetrical. But I don't feel like we have to say it again. Obstetrical. It's funny how you can live to 59 years old and never have said a word. Oh. And then it just shows up. How many times do you say thrice? Thrice. I'm going to say it all the time now. I have thrice done this. I only see it written. I never hear anybody say that. Thrice. Yeah. No. Who says thrice? If you say thrice in a regular conversation, you're... Yeah. You're flexing. You're something. Or if you say tertiary. Tertiary conditions. No. That's one of my favorite words. Tertiary.

1:25:27because it's the only word I know of that means that. Sometimes it's a handy one. Right. Yeah, because before I learned that word, I would just be like, you know, secondary but more. And then when I heard Tercey, I was like, that's it. Tercey. They beat him up and killed him for fucking telling everybody to wash his hands. What? And I threw him in a mental institution where he got beat up. Oh, my God. Despite his research, Semmelweis' observations conflicted with the establishment scientific views of the time, the established scientific views of the time, and his ideas were rejected by the medical community.

1:26:02He could not offer a theoretical explanation for his findings of reduced mortality due to hand washing. Additionally, some doctors were offended by the suggestion that they should wash their hands and mocked him for it. In 1865, the increasingly outspoken Semmelweis purportedly suffered a nervous breakdown, was committed to an asylum by his colleagues. In the asylum, he was beaten by the guards. He died 14 days later from a gangrenous wound on his right hand that may have been caused by the beating. Man. I guess you could say he was the Dr. Fauci of his time. The opposite. And he got gangrene from an infection, which is even crazier.

1:26:40He died from a fucking infection from his beating. Goddamn. And then Louis Pasteur is the guy. I've heard that name a minute. Yeah, I've heard Louis Pasteur. And Louis Pasteur, he confirmed the germ theory, giving Semmelweis' observations a scientific explanation. And then Joseph Lister, is that from Listerine? Probably. Acting on Pasteur's research, pioneered antiseptal surgical methods with great success. Click on Joseph Lister. Is he responsible for Listerine? Gotta be. Or maybe like it's because his name was like so ubiquitous. When they were talking about... Was his name like a name that was synonymous with antiseptics?

1:27:22Who invented Listerine? Why don't you just Google that? Well, because I would imagine... I didn't know I was walking into one of the longest Wikipedias I've ever seen. I thought it was just going to be like... Look at all this shit on Joseph Lister. Yeah, he's done a bunch of stuff. Damn. God damn. He was getting work done. That's a guy that was not lazy. A third of the way down. Damn. That dude did a lot of work. Thank God for those people, right? Thank God for those people that are out there investigating germs and diseases and...

1:27:52Listerine. Listerine is named after Joseph Lister. That's it. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, of course. Because people probably at the time, back then, when Listerine was invented, you know... 1879. Yeah. There you go. And they're not careful. Now it's like a, it's kind of like ubiquitous now, right? Yeah. Well, the other thing about like mouthwash, I hear that mouthwash is actually not good for you. I was reading this thing. God, it was quite a while ago. They were talking about athletics. They were talking about, like, athletic performance and gains in terms of, like, when you're training, like, how well you recover and how good you get, how strong you get afterwards, that it's diminished by mouthwash.

1:28:50What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. See if you can find that. Which makes sense, right? Your gut bacteria and all the fucking, like, for instance, if you take antibiotics. Have you ever had to take antibiotics? If you take antibiotics and try to work out, holy shit. Bro, you feel so tired. You feel so exhausted. Are there fighters that stink on purpose, like as part of their strategy? Oh, yeah, definitely. Really? Is that allowed? Oh, yeah, yeah. Jiu-jitsu guys used to do it all the time. They used to not wash their gi at all. It would smell like ammonia. Are you allowed to do that? I don't know. We'll find out.

1:29:28Antibacterial mouthwash is plausibly linked to exercise physiology, but has not been proven to meaningfully worsen race time, strength, or overall athletic performance in healthy people. The main concern is that it can suppress oral bacteria involved in producing nitric oxide, a molecule important for blood vessel dilation and oxygen delivery. Okay, there it is. Thanks, Perplexity. Thank you, Perplexity. That's why you take a Viagra. And then beetroot. Beets are really good for converting to nitric oxide in your body. Why? I don't know. There's something about beets in general. Well, it says right here, dietary nitrite found in foods such as leafy greens and beetroot can be converted by certain mouth bacteria into nitrite, which the body can then use to make nitric oxide.

1:30:14Nitric oxide helps regulate blood flow, blood pressure, and potentially muscle oxygenation during and after exercise. I know a lot of dudes that will drink beetroot shots before they work out. Really? Yeah. Yeah, the beetroot apparently gives you a little bit of extra juice. So that's saying if you depend on those type of foods, then you're killing the bacteria in your mouth that helps convert them to something usable. Yes. It kills your body's ability to convert. It'll diminish your performance maybe somewhat. But, you know, people are always looking for every possible edge. So if it turns out that, like, you use some mouthwash and it'll just take a little bit out of your endurance and a little bit out of your, like, race time or a little bit out of your ability to go into the third, fourth, and fifth round.

1:31:06Yeah. I mean, it's going to – if it does mess with your body's – nitric oxide is gigantic. It'll be more motivation because it's like imagine if you do all of that and then don't win, you know. Because it's okay to be a funky breath champion. You know what I'm saying? You can brush your teeth. You just don't use mouthwash. Oh, yeah. There's nothing wrong with brushing your teeth. Right, right. That's not going to kill all of the bad breath germs. No, but there's a lot of people that also believe that one of the reasons why people get so many skin infections is because we wash so much. and that we've managed to nuke all of the external flora, the skin flora that we have that usually used to protect people from things?

1:31:50No, yeah, I can believe that. Yeah, that makes sense. I can believe that for sure. Yeah, I mean, why do we have to wash all the time other than the fact that you don't want to smell? But take that away. And what would be like the natural reason why you would be created in a way that you must wash yourself all the time or you can get sick? That's crazy. That doesn't even make sense. No animals are like that. Like, my dog goes a week without washing, and he's fine. I take him to the groomers once a week. Unless he gets in the pool or goes in the lake, he's not washing. They're fine. But I bet you it's kind of like, I bet you humans are kind of like, you know how, maybe it was you that told me, if you have a pig and it gets out, and say you put a tracker on him, when you find him, he's going to be a different animal.

1:32:38Yeah. You know, and I think maybe like if you were to just release a human into the wild, you would start not needing to walk. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Like your body would change in a way that, this is my theory. I bet that makes sense in terms of your skin. Yeah, because when you hear stories from the ancient world and stuff, you never really, it's not a lot of like an epidemic or funky motherfuckers around. Wasn't there a dude who was like the world's dirtiest man and they found this guy and they washed him and then he died? No, that was a different guy.

1:33:12The dude who's like the way it was like is a famous photo of this guy's like caked in dirt And I think they washed him off and he died shortly afterwards Yeah, there's the dude. Oh, buddy Nah, look at him. He's got smoking four cigarettes No, I'll take the dirtiest man in Iran aged 94 years old And the meme says that. I don't know if it's accurate. Yeah. Didn't wash for 60 years. Died shortly after washing for the first time. Find out if that's true, though. But what? Put that into perplexity. Find out if he really died. What made him wash? Well, he did die, but it's a matter of timing, you know.

1:33:48Right. But, I mean, I'd like to know. Even if it's just correlation that does not necessarily equal causation, I would like to know if he died shortly afterwards. He died a few months after bathing for the first time in 60 years, having been persuaded by the inhabitants of the village to do so. There you go. See also, wait a minute, see also Dirty Dick. Oh, you can't leave that alone. Come on. Really? You don't know what that's all about. A London merchant who refused to wash after his fiancee died on their wedding day. Oh, boy. Nathaniel Bentley, commonly known as Dirty Dick, was an English merchant who was known for his filthy and unwashed appearance.

1:34:24He came from a moneyed background and received a good education. As a young man, he spoke several languages and dressed in a dandified manner. And after his fiancee died on their wedding day, he just said, fuck it. He gave up on life. Why does it say you're on portal right there? Probably because it's propaganda. They're trying to get us. Did you know that we renamed Lake Ontario today? Yes. Lake America. Lake Ontario is no longer Lake Ontario. It's Lake America. And we might be doing the Atlantic Pacific next. Why do we do that? Might be doing Atlantic and Pacific. Could be, yes. Well, we're going to name them.

1:34:59I don't know what the Pacific is. The ocean? Yeah. But Lake Ontario has been Lake Ontario forever. Isn't it connected to Ontario? Yeah, it said it has something to do with China. Yeah, and what about the... But it's in America or it's in Canada? Parts in Ontario, correct? Oh, it's the Great Lakes. I mean, it touches both. Yeah, all the lakes touch both. Okay, but what percentage of the land is on Canada versus America? I think it's literally... I mean, I could look it up. Yeah, let's look it up. On the map, but it's on the map right there. Let's see whose side we're on. I think it's 50-50. That's correct.

1:35:36I don't know if it's exactly 50-50. President Trump, you got to stop fucking with the acronyms, man. Wow. Because I learned the Great Lakes, but I've learned homes. That's how you can name all the lakes, right? How they going to teach the kids now? Homes? Yeah. Lake Huron, Lake Ontario, Lake Michigan. What's next? Lake Erie. And Lake Superior. Oh, yeah, acronym. Okay. I didn't learn that. No? I don't think so. If I did, I forgot it. The crazy thing is those are all just melted glaciers. Really? Yep. Isn't that nuts? Do they connect to the ocean? No. No. Do they? Yes. All of them? Well, through the St.

1:36:17Lawrence. The lake. The ones inside? Like Michigan? Like that one connects to the ocean? They're all connected to each other. Oh, wow. They're connected to, I think, the St. Lawrence Expressway, whatever the hell it's called. Oh, okay. Maybe this one's not. I don't like Ontario's connected, though. I thought the one in Illinois. What's the one in Illinois? I just know that because that's how Ohio got used for shipping. Well, actually, even the one in Illinois makes sense that it would be connected to the ocean because they find sharks up there. You know, they found sharks in Illinois. You know how crazy this is?

1:36:50Bull sharks, they can live in fresh water. So they swam all the way from the fucking ocean all the way up to Illinois. in fresh water. Isn't that nuts? Ontario serves as the outlet to the Atlantic via the St. Lawrence River. But how do they... And they're all connected. So all of them are connected somehow to the ocean. God, I thought they were just in the middle. I thought there's no way in the middle. But it makes sense. But what's the purpose of changing the name? Oh. Could distract you from the fact that we're in a war that we can't win in our run. It doesn't make any sense. Like, who cares?

1:37:27Lake Ontario. Well, it's a good name. We've had that name forever. Yeah, it's weird. It's like these politicians now, they love to solve a problem. Like they love to like make up a problem for themselves to solve so you feel like they're doing stuff. Because I don't understand what we get out of that. Is that like fuck Canada? Is that what that is? You know what's really wild? Like these lakes, right, they at one point in time. So at one point in time, most of North America was covered in like a mile plus high sheet of ice. And then at the end of the Ice Age, all that shit melts probably with the younger dry ice impact.

1:38:08It's probably very rapid. Oh, that video. We got to show that. The Nepal thing. And then after that, they melt and becomes a lake. How do all the fish get in there? Are they getting in there from the ocean? And why are there freshwater fish in there? How long does that take? Because if this whole thing where North America was under ice as recently as 11 ,000 years ago, how the fuck are the freshwater fish? How are the freshwater fish getting in there? Like, where are they coming from? Probably the ocean. Right. But freshwater fish in the ocean? Did they evolve, become freshwater over time? How much time does that take?

1:38:44You know what I'm saying? Because if it's only 11 ,000 years. Well, how do those sharks do it? You said those sharks. That's different. The sharks can exist in freshwater. So the— Bull sharks in particular. The Great Lakes are connected to other sources of water. As well? Yeah, like other rivers and other lakes. Right, but wasn't all that frozen as well at one point in time? I mean— If the entire North American continent was like three-quarters of it was covered in like a mile-plus-high sheet of ice real recently— It couldn't have been that recently. Oh, yeah. It was that recently. It was like I think as recently as 11 ,000 or 12 ,000 years ago.

1:39:21It would have taken 9 ,000 years. That's not quick. It says fish were in the Great Lakes soon after the last ice age, roughly 10 ,000 to 14 ,000 years ago. Yeah. And then they started fishing as long as. Yeah, I guess you're right, Jamie. That's not a little bit of years. No, it's definitely a lot of years. But it's interesting that they're freshwater fish, right? So if the water is connected from the ocean. I see what you're saying. That's not enough time for something to evolve. And turn into a freshwater. So it couldn't be from the ocean. It must be that either they're these kind of fish that transition, like salmon do.

1:39:57You know, salmon go from freshwater to saltwater, and they go back and forth. So they spawn in the rivers, and then they go back out to the ocean. So maybe it's that all freshwater fish can. I don't think they can. There's another question. Was it frozen all the way down because I can't eat ice fish? Oh, yeah, yeah. Ice fish a mile deep? I don't know. No, I think it was solid ice covering ground. I mean, I think it's like going fishing in Antarctica. I mean, I think it's just a big, giant ice cap. Fishing during the Ice Age. I just read something about the Black Sea. Have you heard about the Black Sea?

1:40:37Like if you go far enough, like once you get down to a certain point in the Black Sea, like 100 or 200? Yes, people were fishing in North America during the final part of the Ice Age. Though the clearest early evidence, okay, this is, that's different. What does it go up a little bit? Archaeologists found direct evidence that people in central Alaska caught freshwater fish about 13 ,000 years ago. The identified fish include burbot first, followed by northern pike and whitefish. The remains came from human settlement context rather than natural deposits. Will perplexity give you porn? Never tried.

1:41:18What do you want? You are a goddamn liar. You're a dirty man. What do you want? It's not hard to find porn. I don't need perplexity's help. It's been on the internet the whole goddamn time. Don't say that, Jamie. How long is it going to be before they can create it? What do you? The thing is, well, people don't... Sections on... I don't know. I mean, what? What is, like, the best... What's the... He's like, I don't know what we're talking about. I forgot. I forgot I know nothing. I've never seen Red Band's phone. What is the best large language model for creating porn? Probably Claw. As far as our Duncan would say, it's like some Chinese model.

1:41:55Because all the guardrails are off. The Chinese ones, they let the gates wide open. They're encouraging innovation. That's why they're going to win. I mean, they already winning. They're winning with drones. That's for sure. Their drones are so much more advanced than ours. They're already winning. I don't know if it was a guy you had on here before, but he was talking about how the big difference over there is even though they have capitalism, it's not a capitalist system because the capital has no power over the government. A rich person in China, they can't get a law passed. No, and if you talk any shit, they'll disappear you.

1:42:37Yeah, and they'll take your money. Yeah. So it was so that they, it was only, once we started shipping our jobs over there, our manufacturing jobs, it was only a matter of time. It's not going to happen in my lifetime. You know what I mean? A matter of time for what? Before they beat us. Economically. Like, probably your great grandkids are going to be learning Mandarin. You know? You really believe that? Mm-hmm. Interesting. Have you ever heard people say that the estimates of population there are overestimated? By a lot. By a lot. Oh, like it's not really two billion people over there? I don't know how many they really say.

1:43:13I've tried to look like not a lot more than I have. It's hard to know because they're not going to tell you the truth and they're not going to tell you they lied. Right. And it's also they had that weird one-child policy, which really fucked them up. It set them back a lot. A lot because then they had all these boys and no girls for the boys. Like it's the dumbest idea of all time. You have a whole nation where you had 60 % boys can't get laid or whatever the fuck it is. I mean, it's tough when you do, when you, like when Pol Pot, how many people did he kill? He killed mad people. And he was like, it's still too many people to feed.

1:43:51Jesus Christ. That's what's scary. When the resources are low and the government solution. You talking about Mao? I mean Mao Zedong. Yeah. Yeah.

1:44:04that's spooky that's spooky though too many people gotta starve him gotta kill him I don't know if that's the reason he gave that it was too many people he also killed quite a few or is responsible for yeah Pol Pot yeah but that wasn't China though yeah I know roughly responsible for the deaths of 1.5 to 2 million people in Cambodia and he did it over 4 years oh what was his what was his reasoning so many people Oh. Mass executions and political persecution. Forced removal of city residents into rural labor camps. Starvation, disease, overwork, torture, and lack of medical care. Targeting of perceived political opponents, educated people.

1:44:46Educated people. That's crazy. Ethnic Vietnamese. I don't know what that word is. Cham. Cham Muslims. Chinese Cambodians. Religious groups and others. Fuck. The Khmer Rouge. See, I feel like a lot of these people, they dictate a wrong. If I'm going to start a slave camp, I'm going to keep the slaves healthy. They don't know the work. Well, you know who arguably did it right? Muammar Gaddafi. Muammar Gaddafi? Yeah, Libya. He had labor camps? No, but as a dictator. He arguably did it right. Like, he was a dictator of Libya, but everybody had a home. Everybody had an education. If you had a particular skill and you needed to be educated overseas, he would send you overseas and pay for it.

1:45:26Oh, yeah, but then he started trying to convince people to move away from Nadalo. Exactly. He shoved a knife up his ass, literally. Yep, literally. They got him stabbed in the ass. Oh, yeah, I've seen the video. Yeah, so it's like. The look on his face when those rebels capture him. You know who probably paid for that? Us. USAID. Oh, damn, man. That kind of shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I think he felt betrayed somehow. Yeah. Well, he was. Yeah, he was. He got betrayed by his own people. Yeah, I mean, they convinced them to do it. All you have to do is, like, fund the rebels. You fund the rebels, you overthrow the dictator.

1:46:01That's what they do. It's literally what, I mean, you got it. I'll send you some Mike Benz stuff. It'll freak you out. It'll freak you out because of the depth of it and how long it's been going on. And that, literally, it's for stuff that's too dirty for the CIA. Mmm.

1:46:19USA. I could use a little bit of that. Ha! Yeah. Yeah. Because I don't know if that's exactly true of what he was doing. But I think that is what he was doing. He was trying to move away from the U.S. dollar. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. And here's the thing. It's easy to be like, well, we shouldn't be murdering people for that. But it's like if the dollar stops being the world's currency, we're in serious trouble. Yeah. He was also trying to establish the United States of Africa. He was trying to unite Africa. They ain't never letting that happen. Exactly. He was trying to do a lot of shit.

1:46:58Before I forget, that video from Nepal. The video. Have you seen this? I don't even know what you're talking about. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, dude. They had a dam burst. So there was a mudslide. I'm not exactly sure what car. Was that real? I did see that. Oh, it's real. Hold on, wait a minute. It's an avalanche. I think an avalanche started it. Watch this, dude. This is fucking crazy. Watch it from the beginning, please. There's multiple views. This isn't the best. Go from the very beginning. Watch how quick this hits. So these people are hanging out. They're running away. They're running, trying to get out of there.

1:47:31But look how fast this comes on, man. You're not going to make it. But it's the speed of which it overcomes everything. It's so crazy. And the finality of it. Look how it's blowing through that building. I mean, everything's gone. You said it's a better angle? Yeah, there's multiple angles. But look how it does. It's going through the trees. Like, you're not getting away from this. This is the one. This one's fucking terrifying. Just watch up in the top here. And these people are moving a pretty high speed, too, right? So they already know. Oh, yeah. Well, there's probably sirens going off and shit.

1:48:08But watch the fucking speed that this comes through. Oh, man. No.

1:48:17Oh.

1:48:20Everything's wiped out. so what everything's wiped out is this an avalanche yeah it started as an avalanche and the dam broke it's a series of events oh the avalanche caused the dam to break which caused the of course an earthquake caused it but it seems like this caused the earthquake readings you know there was so much movement it caused like a 5.2 reading on the scale bro it's crazy when you watch the speed in which it overtakes buildings, man. It's fucking horrifying. Because you realize there's nothing you can do about it. Oh, no. I know these people. Are these people about to get? 400 people are missing.

1:49:04This is after the thing had happened. After the fact. The people that survived. And what Jamie brought up earlier, Jamie, what you were talking about earlier was the stuff with Randall Carlson said about the melting of the ice caps. So the thing about, you know, the Great Lakes, and how North America was covered in over a mile of ice. Randall Carlson has a very compelling theory that coincides with data that we know about when we pass through comet storms. And he thinks we were hit. And he thinks we were hit all over the world. And there's real evidence, like physical evidence, in terms of core samples.

1:49:41When they do core samples and they get down to like 11 ,800 years, they find a lot of material that exists that's very common in space but very rare on earth and also micro diamonds these micro diamonds that appear from impacts it's called a tritonite and i think that's the way you pronounce it but they first discovered this stuff during the trinity explosion because the nuclear bomb created this micro glass this this nuclear glass that's on the ground because just the sheer force of it but it also happens during comet impacts. So when we get hit, it creates this glass and iridium, which is like really common in space, but really rare on earth.

1:50:23And there's like a layer of it. And you get down to like 11 ,800 years and it's all over the world. All over the world was hit by this stuff. And particularly North America. And he thinks it's responsible for the great flood, the great flood that's in the Bible. He thinks it's responsible for all the flooding that you see in North America, like this the Grand Canyon and all this crazy shit that looks like what the fuck happened here like what giant boulders that were moved like thousands of miles like what the fuck is this and he thinks it was just an insane amount of water instantaneously running over the land so this these mile plus high sheets of ice imagine comets slamming into the ice it melts instantly and you have fucking billions and trillions of gallons of water and debris just like that just crushing the land and then when it settles down you got the great lakes oh so this is only this is not that long ago no not that long ago the great lakes are like 11 000 years old or 12 000 years old or whatever it is they were frozen solid but is there other is there so you're saying it's not there's not one big comic impact there's multiple impacts not Not just here, but all over the world.

1:51:38And on top of that, it probably happened again somewhere around 10 ,000 years ago. There's a time where we pass through it. And I think it's June and September, if I remember correctly, but I might be off. But this is when... Do you know what the Tunguska event is? No. Okay. So in, I want to say the 1920s, there was a comet that exploded before it impacted over this area of Alaska. Or was it Alaska? No, Siberia. Over this area of Siberia. And this area was fucking flattened. And the photos are crazy. It looks like a nuclear bomb went off. Because it didn't hit. It didn't, like, impact the ground.

1:52:21It detonated above the surface. Just from the sheer speed of it coming in and the mass of it all. It hits our atmosphere and explodes, but it just flattened trees everywhere all over and they had no idea what caused it That's what it looks like today today. It's still this like flattened area Isn't that nuts? So that happened during the exact time where we pass through this comet storm regularly so Every when is when do we pass through that comet storm? Is it June? So yeah, we just did. We just did. So we pass through it, and most of the time it's fine. But every now and then it's not fine. And when it's not fine, boom.

1:53:07So you think that years ago there was just more... Yeah, June. So I believe it's June and either September or June and November.

1:53:20So that one's June. It's the Leonid. Isn't it the Leonid? Oh, the torrid, torrid meteor shower. When does the torrid, when do we pass through the torrid meteor, whatever?

1:53:35October? Okay, November. September or November. Yeah, September or November, peaking around October 10th, 2026. So it's a regular thing in our solar system that we pass through. So you think there were just more meteors back then? No, I think they're still out there. It's just sometimes they hit, sometimes they don't. And it takes a long time before one does hit or something hits. But that's why you're seeing meteor showers. When you see those lights in the sky, all the shooting stars, those are meteors. And if you go through a bad spot and we get hit, that's a civilization reset. Yeah, there's a bunch.

1:54:13I mean, they get close all the time. They're just not that big. Yeah, we just get lucky. Most of them burn up. on re-entry or entering into our atmosphere. But when they do, it's so bright, man. It's so crazy. A few have hit houses in something recently. Didn't something happen? Oh, yeah. Someone went through someone's house. A meteorite. Scary fucking shit, dude. Because there's not a whole lot they can do about it. And I think that's probably what the flood myth was all about. And insurance won't cover it. Everyone's dead. It doesn't matter. They say it's an act of God. No, but let's say you're not home and the meteor crush your house, they'll say it's an act of God.

1:54:57Is that what they say? Mm-hmm. You can't get meteor insurance? No. Imagine how much you have to pay for meteor insurance and you never use it. You'd have to specifically, like, you know, like, if you have to specifically get that, like, if you live in California, you have to get fire insurance. You can't, your regular insurance will be like, nah. Well, hey, hold on. Some, it actually says most are falling objects peril, not act of God. Oh. So maybe there's a fund like a separate a separate kind of fun of falling Because if I was an insurance company, I would 100 % offer meteor coverage Because who the fuck's gonna use it you get all these people paying you got one guy every 30 years that needs meteor coverage You make a windfall Yeah, yeah, or they could just come in and they could easily convince people that it's more common.

1:55:45Oh Yeah, you could show them the meteor showers falling object insurance like how often is you? You do not want this to happen to your house and not have coverage. What about lightning? Your house gets struck by lightning. That's got to be active. Yeah, how could you prevent that? I mean, because we got a super El Nino starting up, right? And I'm not sure exactly what that means. When is that coming? They're predicting it might happen this year. You know what's weird about Texas? We get the sand from Africa. We get the sands from the Sahara. In the wind? Yeah. Oh. You ever seen that? Uh-uh. It's crazy.

1:56:23How do they know that? They know. They know where it came from. Mm-hmm. You've never seen that? Nah. It's like a regular thing in Texas. It blows over the ocean from Africa? Uh-huh. You can see it in the sky. Look at this. Isn't that nuts? Saharan dust makes a comeback later this week. Expected to arrive Wednesday night. I don't know about this week. Isn't that crazy? No, I mean, in the sun. this article. So this happens every year? Yeah. All the time. Dust from the fucking Sahara Desert makes it all the way to Texas. Isn't that insane? Okay, maybe I need to get back to watching the news a little bit.

1:57:02Because I do feel... Just listen to this podcast. I do feel a little uninformed. Honestly, man, you know what? It's real hard for me to listen to the podcast. Since I've known you, I used to listen to your podcast all the time. But it's hard to... Because now that you're my actual real life friend it's hard to listen to it and not be able to respond you know because i talk to you all the time right so it's just like hearing your friend in the other room it's like and you can't say you know right i know what you mean i listen to tim dylan's podcast more than anybody's i don't like to laugh outside like i don't watch any comedy stuff what you don't like to laugh i don't like to watch comedy i don't like i don't like to watch comedy yeah but it's not comedy per se it's not like doing stand-up like he's he's the very best at having an actual like relevant take on all the things that are going on today but with satire and saying it in the most fucking ridiculous way and just having great points but also being hilarious yeah his his his rants are they're legendary he's the best his podcast is so good dude i look forward to it every week like a little kid oh it's a new one it's a new one that motherfucker's crazy he did a new one on that lady the killer kids it's fucking fantastic i want to see that oh it's so good he's so good dude it's so funny man he's just the best at just give him a subject and just ranting and but he did one about the body the lifeguard that saved that kid and then uh went to meet trump and trump was like what you did was a brave thing i don't think i would have done i wouldn't have done it He was mad long rant about how crazy it is that Trump said that, by the way, in front of the little kid.

1:58:50The kid was there, too. The kid that he saved is there. And the kid's parents. Like, everyone's there. And Trump's like, I wouldn't have saved him. I don't let you die. Look at this. Look at this.

1:59:03This is one of the moments where classic Trump shines through. The president of the United States bringing in a lifeguard who saved someone and then saying, I don't know that I would have done that. Here he is, President Trump. He's a real hero. Right, right. You know, when you see that, I don't know if I'd do it. I wouldn't. Right, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have saved you. You're lucky I wasn't on the... He says... Here's what's amazing about this, and I didn't even realize this. The child who was saved and his father are in the Oval Office in front of the fight. He's saying to the father, I would not have saved your child.

1:59:43You're lucky I wasn't there that day. He's saying this is the first time the child has met the president of the United States. And he's saying, you're lucky I wasn't there. I would have let you die because that's what our country is about. You see why I'm sitting here in the Oval Office adorned with gold? It's not because I pulled a bunch of Mexican kids out of the water. In fact, I put a bunch of them in cages. There's a ton of people that look like you that are in a cage right now. Nothing interests Trump less than people saving other people. In the moments of extreme danger, we make sure that we coordinate.

2:00:16And Trump's like, all right, yeah, but who's making money here? Where's the money in this? Now, Trump's eyes would have lit up if the kid said, we're launching a coin. were actually launching a crypto based on this event because we believed the event was so powerful. That's it. And he goes into these long fucking rants. They're so good, dude. He gives me so much levity. Yeah, yeah, the Tim Dillon rant is, he's a legendary ranter for sure. But it's so good that there's, like, There's never been a guy like that that just had his own platform that could do something like that. You relied on 60 minutes like Andy Rooney.

2:01:02Did you ever notice? They're like a very mild, toned down. And very scripted. Yes. He's not scripting at all. No, he's off the dome. Off the dome, 100 % and sober. Yeah, can you imagine when he had a cocaine problem? He was probably a fucking nightmare. He must have been fun. I'd never hear him talk about it. I would like to just ask him about it one day. Oh, he's got some great stories. I bet. He was off the rails. But figured it out. Smart dude. You know? Got off of it. Cleaned himself up. Figured it out. Doesn't have that problem anymore. Didn't lose any of the funny. Probably more funny now than he was then.

2:01:42No. No. You think he was funnier? I don't know. I just, because I don't know anybody that got more funny when they got off drugs. Dave Attell. Oh, you know what? Probably more funny on purpose. Drug addicts are hilarious. Right. But ironically. Well, some drug addicts are hilarious on purpose. Like some comics that have drug problems are hilarious. But Attell was a drinking thing. No, you're right. Stand up, you need to. Like, I think, especially because back in the day, everyone, all the comics were on cocaine and shit. Right. Because it makes you brave. but it takes something you lose something when you start yeah same thing with alcohol like the comics that you drink a little bit on stage you feel a little looser but if you fucking you can't go on stage waste it no have you seen those um the video of tiger woods the recent video no where people are freaking out how bad he looks he's i forget what the video is for he's talking to somebody about something like he's addressing someone and you look at him you're like what happened.

2:02:45He looks so bad. And this is after he got a DUI fairly recently. And he's had another one. And he's had multiple surgeries. He's had his back fused. He had that horrible accident where his leg got destroyed and they had to put it back together again. He's got one leg that's just destroyed. From the car accident? Yes. From the drinking? Yeah. I don't know what it was. I think it was whether it's DUI meaning under the influence of alcohol or under the influence of pills. The problem with these back surgeries is when people get back fusions and back surgery, a lot of times they're in pain all the time.

2:03:24And here's your choice. Be in pain all the time or be on pills all the time. Like, look at what he looks like. Full screen. To defend him, though. You've almost never seen him without a hat. He's got a fucking bad tan line. Yeah, I mean, he just looks... I mean, he doesn't look that bad. Play it. He's talking about... He's 11 years old, playing in a junior world, and you can all watch me play, and our friendship has started there. Never seen him with a beard. He's never had facial hair. What you've done off the golf course. Yeah, me just talking about a kid. Well, maybe you could attribute it to bad lighting, but he looks pale and he looks sick.

2:04:01Oh, that's just a shitty camera. Yeah, a shitty camera. It could be, but it's also a guy who's had a lot of problems with pills. so I think it's fair to make that assumption that he looks like something has to do with the fact that this guy's had a serious pill problem I mean but that that he just looked right I mean I guess I don't look at the thing enough to know how many times has Tiger Woods been arrested for DUI

2:04:28And the car accident, was that confirmed to be DUI? I don't think so. That's one of the speculations. I mean, he drove off a cliff. Yeah, but I mean, listen, he was squeaky clean for like 20 years. You didn't let him get a cup of DUI. The thing is the accident, I mean, the injuries, rather. Surgeries. When guys get surgeries and then they get on oxys, it's a rough ride to get off those things, man. I know a bunch of people that really fucking struggled to get off those things. I mean, a lot of athletes, you know, they own way stronger shit. You know, like all the strong shit. Uh-huh. But Oxycontin's about as strong as it gets.

2:05:10I mean, it's an opiate. It's pretty fucking strong, other than fentanyl. Fentanyl's about the strongest shit you can get. Yeah, but I'm talking about they got shit that they give you, like these football players and shit, they got shit that they give you that make you not feel anything. What do you mean? Like where you can play on, you know, the players talk about it sometimes, like shit they can inject into your ankle. Like you can't put weight on your ankle and they'll inject some shit so you don't feel nothing like right then. Well, it's a cortisone shot. Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, guys do that.

2:05:46I know guys do that. Guys do that before Fluffy Hernandez, who just fought last weekend in the UFC. He hurt his shoulder and he got an injection right before the fight so he didn't feel his shoulder. I heard them saying— Toradol? Yeah. Well, Toradol's a good one. What is Toradol? Same thing. Anti-inflammatory? Yeah. I heard them—it's a football podcast called Raw Room. I heard them talking about it the other day, like all these offensive linemen. They were like on shit since high school. It really—it fucks with your heart. Yeah, so here it is right here. Frequent injections of Toradol, powerful non-steroidal anti-inflammatory to mask game day pain and keep them on the field.

2:06:29Yeah man That is a rough He's so happy You don't have to make a living running at dudes Full clip What's that? I don't know what the picture is But it What is that? The caption says something about tortoise Oh those are all shots? That's like a bag? It's a helmet with shots The helmet's upside down I was like what? I thought they were like waiting for a game and they have like a basket of fucking shots. Everybody who needs a shot, come on over. We got them filled up. 15 years ago. Bro. It's a rough way to make a living, son. Yeah, I mean. Making a living fighting or making a living running at people full clip.

2:07:12All we have to do is talk shit. I mean, think about what it's like for you right before work. We're hanging out in the green room. The light comes on. Oh, he's got the light. You got to run downstairs, go on stage, have fun. Yeah, but the chance to hold up that trophy is intoxicating. Oh, sure. That quote. The chance to be champion? Sure. God. Because I'll tell you what, everybody that does what we do, you fantasize about being a champion. Look at this quote. Your first day in the league is the last day you'll ever be 100 % healthy, says Eagles center Jamal Jackson, an eight-year vet who suffered a torn ACL in 2009, torn triceps in 2010.

2:07:48No stranger to gain a shot to help deal with the pain. It's a part of football, he says. You take every legal advantage possible. First day in the league is the last day you'll ever be 100 % healthy. And that's fighters, too. I mean, most fighters are fighting with something wrong with them. They're fighting with some, you know, shoulder problem, back problem, neck problem, knee problem. They're all fighting with something. Some of them have been concussed in training, and they decided to fight anyway. Torto is like Motrin. Super powerful. Well, it's an NSAID, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory.

2:08:21In 10 minutes, nothing hurts. But what's the downside of Toradol? It's got to be. There's no biological free lunch. You said it's not addictive. Half of the Steelers roster gets a T-shot every week. Whoa. That's crazy. It says, not much is known about Toradol's long-term risks yet, but the drug is banned in several European countries because of concerns about potential gastrointestinal issues such as ulcers and surgical bleeding. Yeah, this is also 15 years ago. They might know more now. I don't know. It's interesting because no one is going to ban football like we were just talking about earlier with CTE.

2:09:04No one's going to ban boxing. They almost did at one point, like way back in the day when people were still dying. From football? Mm-hmm. Was that before helmets? I think it was back in the leather helmet days. Yeah. That's hilarious. People were dying doing games all the time. Of course. Yeah, and then, you know, once it starts happening in, like, high school and stuff like that, then they're like, we don't have to get rid of this. Yeah, they probably saved a lot of people with the helmets and the shoulder pads and all that stuff, but they probably caused even more CTE. Because here's the truth.

2:09:34Most of those people, it doesn't matter what they say the long-term effects are. They're still going to do it. Yeah. Yeah, most players, most fighters are like, I still want to go. Yeah, for sure. Like, this could fuck you up. They're like, I know. Yeah. You know? Well, it's the most exciting thing they're ever going to do by far. And when they're done, when they're retired, they're 35, 36, they got their whole life ahead of them, everything is boring. Because they're so used to, like, an insane high threshold of excitement. And that's why a lot of them sometimes, they fight one, two, three, five fights too long.

2:10:10Most of them. Most of them. It's very rare that someone's like Floyd Mayweather, retires undefeated, or George St. Pierre wins his second title, retires. Very rare. Most of them, they go out like BJ Penn or Anderson Silva or a lot of these guys. They have a bunch of fights past their prime. Yeah, because how are you supposed to make money? It's hard and you're making a lot of money like I know some fighters that were former champions had these long contracts, right? So they had like maybe an eight fight contract and the contracts Are for a specific amount of money per fight. It's negotiated in advance So if you lose the title say like you get knocked the fuck out and then you're not the same guy again in your next fight You get knocked out again.

2:10:54You got six more fights where you can make a ton of money But you know, it's over so you in your mind you're not the baddest motherfucker alive anymore now you're a guy's been knocked out twice and now you fear maybe you there's certainly some anxiety about getting knocked out again and now you got to fight you know for but you're making a million dollars a fight there's no other way you're going to make a million dollars for a night's work at a six-week camp right and so then you see these guys that are fighting that don't really want to fight anymore and they're doing it just because it's a big paycheck.

2:11:30And then some of them, they leave MMA and they go into bare knuckle boxing. That makes me sad. That gets rough. That shit's hard to watch, man. It gets rough. And maybe it's because we've gone through a lot to remove as much gore as possible from... Because that was the trouble the UFC had at the beginning is people saw it as too violent for TV. You know, right? And we've gone through a lot to make it the least gory as possible. And bare knuckle boxes, it's just hard to watch them off with just leaking blood. Well, you see it in the UFC sometimes. And again, it bothers me more for whatever reason when it's women.

2:12:12Like one of the toughest ones to watch was the Noche UFC that we did at The Sphere. And Irene Aldana fought. and she got a gash in her head that was like, I'm not exaggerating, like five inches long. Like a huge gash in her forehead where it was like opened up where you could see her skull. Remember when it was like, I think it was Joanna? Oh, she had the big swelling on her head? She fought Cyborg, wasn't it? No, Zhang Weili. Oh, yeah. Her shit looked crazy. Yeah, crazy. Like Elephant Man. But Aldana was worse. it was it was the the most one of the most horrific cuts i've ever seen in the sport and it was a woman and um i can't believe they didn't stop the fight like i was shocked that they didn't stop the fight just for because it's like this is only going to get worse how much is crazy i don't remember i don't remember what round it was that the fight took place but it went on for a considerable amount of time i don't even remember the result of the fight because i was so traumatized by the injury.

2:13:17Can I see the injury? Irani Aldana? Yeah, sorry. This was a very strange article I was reading down on. We'll get to that in a second. But this is the worst of any of the female injuries that I had ever seen. Inside the octagon, the most gory and disgusting. This was the worst. Bro, look at that. Look at that. That was her in the middle of the fight. That's crazy. So wait a minute, they didn't stop the fight right here? No. Wow. No. Look at her. That's how she was fighting. Like a mask of fucking blood covering her face. Her nose was shattered. She had a huge gash in her forehead. I mean, it was crazy.

2:13:52Who was she fighting? That's a good question. So she didn't win this fight? I don't believe she did. I literally only remember the injury. How does she look now? Norma Dumont, who's very tough. She back to normal? She looks pretty good now. It's kind of shocking. You see her now. She looks good. It was nasty. I don't even know what caused it. Like sometimes it's a headbutt, an accidental headbutt. Sometimes it's an elbow. Sometimes it's a kick or a knee. Knees open you wide up. But that was one of the roughest ones. One of the roughest ones I've ever seen. She's so tough, man. I mean, I was so impressed with that.

2:14:37I mean, like that lady is an animal. She just kept firing, just marching forward, blood in her eyes. You know she couldn't see well. Yeah. See, that's why I'm shocked they didn't stop the fight because it's like there's no way there wasn't blood in their eyes. 100%. But blood in your eyes is not enough to stop the fight. No? No. No, you get blood in your eyes. People get blood in their eyes all the time. It's annoying, but you can still fight with it. It sucks. But if you say you can't see. Right. They got to stop it. That's usually an eye injury, though. Oh, okay. Yeah. The blood in your eyes just hurts when you see.

2:15:09Like the blood gets in your eyes. It's very irritating, but you can still kind of see. The real problem is like Ilya Teporia when he fought Justin Gaethje, he got a broken orbital bone on both sides. And he couldn't see out of his right eye after the first round. She retired. She retired. Yeah. She retired after this fight? Yeah, that's probably why. Did she have any fights afterwards? Go to her wiki under her martial arts career, her record. You get split over like that. You can just get a rat down. She never fought again? Nope. September 2024 Yeah, that's enough You look at your face and you're like, I want to be a woman Like, I want to be a regular woman I don't want to do this If a dude has crazy gashes on his head He's like, where'd he get it?

2:15:54Oh, he's a UFC fighter Ooh, that's hot A woman with a gash like that? You're like, Jesus Yeah, he can't We don't lumped up supermodel Yeah, it's rough It's rough It's a rough life, man Is it fighter's life? Is one of the roughest? It's one of the roughest ways to make a living I appreciate those guys especially like people like you know like Justin Gaethje but like they make they make they make it off of like really making the fight entertaining make those bangers oh yeah they're paying a price for that oh yeah you know oh yeah it's like well I forget the other dude that's always you know what I'm talking about the most intense motherfucker probably in the UFC you know I mean No, he's fucking screaming.

2:16:44Oh, jeez. What does he look like? Fucking real muscle bounce. Oh, muscle bounce guy who screams. Mike Perry? No, not Mike Perry. No? Maybe. No. Well, Mike Perry's not in the UFC anymore. He's bare knuckle boxing champion now. Really? Yeah, it's probably not Mike Perry. He fucks everybody up in bare knuckle boxing.

2:17:06Screams. Mike. No, not Mike. He screams. I can't fucking put a face. Big guy, heavyweight, welterweight, middleweight. Not a heavyweight. Light heavyweight.

2:17:21Oh, you're the worst. I am. I'm trying. I can see his face in my head. He's such a fucking random. No, as soon as I say his name, you're going to be like, oh. Well, do you remember who he fought? Nope. All I can see in my head is his face. What does his face look like? White guy, black guy? Strickland? No, not Sean Strickland. Is it John Silva? No. He barks at everybody? No. This ain't gonna work. No, he's a fan favorite. Max Holloway? Oh, that doesn't mean anything. There's a million fan favorites. He's a fan favorite. Oh, what? No, no, no. How recent? The last time I saw him fight was, I think, last year.

2:18:04Last year? Yeah. I have no idea who you're talking about. Kamzat? No. That's a white guy. A white guy. A white guy. A white guy who screams. An intense, very intense. Very intense white guy. You might have made this guy up. No. Y 'all know who I'm talking about. I don't know who the fuck you're talking about. God damn it. She's so frustrating. I can't think of, okay, wait a minute, wait a minute. This is why people got upset when you were on a fight companion. Like, this guy's not paying attention to shit. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm a casual. I'm not. I never claimed it. Are you going to try to find this guy?

2:18:36That's never going to happen. I don't think I'm going to have time. You're never going to have time. But when I think of it, you're going to know exactly who the fuck I'm in. I'll give you a second. I'll bring up this article I was trying to bring up a second ago. Oh, okay. 1931, Time Magazine, about football being violent. 40 boys, young men, died. This is— 1931 season. Wow. Including one 13-year-old who shot himself in the stomach after not making the team. But why I brought this up is because at the bottom, they're going into how— They call it varsatility, but versatility in playing sports, playing more than one in a row, is too dangerous.

2:19:14And they wanted the president to step in to make a commission that would prevent sports from becoming too rough for human anatomy to withstand. Jesus. What were they doing? Jumping from one sport to another throughout the year is undoubtedly too much for anyone, admitted John M. Cates, Yale's director of athletics. Yeah, they're using this one example of a guy who got tuberculosis, they believe. So I guess, A, they're playing out in the cold. But they didn't know, and there's a word here I had never heard of. Are you trying to find this guy? Are you looking on your phone trying to find this guy?

2:19:49I am. Pleurices, all pleurices are grave matters. A pleurice is the lining of the lung or something like that. Whoa. The cold changed to bronchitis. The bronchitis to pleurice with effusions. and then he was like they're bringing up how he was supposed to then play basketball for Yale and like then baseball and that this was going to be adding into his potentially dying huh and that you know this is almost a grave matter and they need to get the president involved the president did get involved and night uh Roosevelt came in and stopped the roughness of playing football and how did he do that what did he change this they sort of slowed it down it says they had to I don't know how rough they were playing because the game they were playing back then is not necessarily the game they're playing now.

2:20:39It changed a lot from even the 40s. Are you talking about Michael Chandler? Yes. All right. I fucking did it enough. God damn. What about him now? That's what I was trying to think of. What about Michael Chandler? I don't even remember what point I was trying to make. My mission became trying to remember who the fuck I was talking about. Fan favorite, yells a lot. That's true. Yeah, it's him. Tough as nails. Tough as nails. I don't know why I brought him up. There he is. Michael Chandler. Muscles. Fan favorite, yells a lot. He had a tough fight in the White House, man. That was one of the fights.

2:21:18All the White House cards. First of all, the White House card was the only card ever where all seven fights were ended in a knockout. That's never happened before. Ever in a UFC. So every fight on the card ended in a knockout. And that was the event where he fought Mauricio Hufi. Mauricio Hufi is an assassin. I mean, he's an assassin. He's one of the absolute most elite strikers in the game. And he put on a clinic against Michael Chandler. It was rough. It was rough to watch. Because Chandler is, how old is he now? Is he 40? Really? Yeah. Michael Chandler might be 40. Yeah. Yeah, 40 years old.

2:21:56He's 40, and he had a long career. He's going to not watch him fight this year. It wasn't last year. He had a long career before the UFC. He had a long career in Bellator. So in Bellator, he had crazy fights in Bellator, including a couple wars with Eddie Alvarez where they went back and forth. Those fights were fucking insane. To this day, they're some of the craziest fights you'll ever see in MMA. So the amount of punishment that that guy took before he even got to the UFC was crazy. Yeah, but most of his fights are wars like that. Wars. Yeah. Crazy. The difference is those wars when you're 31 or 32 or 30 and you're fighting another guy who's 30 versus those wars when you're 40 and you're fighting a guy who's arguably one of the most dynamic strikers in the last 10 years.

2:22:51Mauricio Hufi's wild. Did you ever see the fight? Yeah, I watched the White House card, yeah. Did you see the Chandler fight? Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure I watched it. Hufi's a bad motherfucker, dude. He's a bad motherfucker, dude. He does wild shit in there. He knocks guys out with wheel kicks. And he's real tall for the weight class, real tall and long. One of the most dynamic strikers, like, literally over the last 10 years. He's real good, man. You think he's done that? You think he's going to fight? Chandler? Yeah. I don't know. Look, if Conor McGregor really does come back a year from now, I mean, I think he wants to fight Max Holloway to, like, I've got to finish what I've started.

2:23:31You know, if he wants to finish what he started. But really Chandler was the right fight for him anyway because they were supposed to fight. They did the ultimate fighter together. They were supposed to fight a long time ago. And then Conor breaks his leg and all that jazz. Like, they were supposed to fight forever ago. That would have been a fun fight. A good fight for Conor because Chandler is, like, he's very aggressive. He gets hit. But Chandler's tough as shit, man. And he's a really good wrestler. Whereas, you know, Conor's, you know, in his primes, one of the best strikers ever. It would have been fun.

2:24:06But Max Holloway's a different cat, man. Max Holloway, like, he's a five-rounder. you better have all your T's crossed and your I's dotted if you want to go five rounds with Max motherfucking Holloway because that dude doesn't fade period he's there in that fifth round throwing bombs at you and Conor has been a guy who's like real good in the first few rounds but then his style is so explosive it's so energy demanding he fades he's faded in fights before because he tries to get you out of there too It tries to just explode on you. And if you're still there, that gas tank gets emptied. It gets tough.

2:24:47I don't think we're going to see him fight again, though. I do. Yeah? Yep. Yeah, I think he's going to want to try to prove it, that he can come back, depending upon how well the surgery goes. So it's a pretty significant surgery, ACL reconstruction. I don't know how he did it. I don't know if he did a patella tendon graft or if he did the cadaver. But it takes a while. It takes a while to come back. It'll take a year. It's probably something that he's probably had like, it's probably been torn for a long time. He just didn't know. No, no, it tore when he, I mean, it might have been injured previously.

2:25:18It's possible that it was partially injured and then he blew it out throwing that kick. That kick's a crazy kick to throw anyway. Like if you're going to throw a jumping kick, the only time you throw that one is if you know you're going to hit something. Right. Because even if you can't guarantee that you're going to hit where you want to hit, as long as you hit something. The thing is, if you're flying through the air and rotating, you're going to have to plant your foot down eventually. And you're planting your foot down with all this crazy rotation. If you're not hitting anything, it's so much torque on your knee.

2:25:54If you throw a kick like that and you hit something, that's very different. Because then the torque and the momentum stops and you just land on your foot. So when he's backstage warming up, did you see him backstage warming up? He was preparing to do that. So that was his opening move. That was his opening move that he was going to do. His opening move was jump up and throw the round kick with the left leg, which is okay if you hit something. If you don't hit something, and Max just got the fuck out of the way, and so then you have all this rotation in the air, and then you land on that foot, and you're launching yourself forward.

2:26:30So you're going forward and you're spinning and you're allowing your knee to absorb all that. And it just goes pop. And then because I remember the last time we saw him fight, didn't he hurt himself too? Broke his leg. Yeah. I don't know, man. See, I guess this is just the quitter in me. I was like, I'm rich. I'm done. When I hurt myself, like when Khabib beat me, I would have been like, maybe I'm done. If I came back and hurt my leg, I'm out. Yeah. It's a tough world, bro. But these are different types of men. Oh, yeah. They have to fight. They have to fight. Well, I mean, he clearly loves a challenge.

2:27:14And he loves the excitement of it. And he loves the feeding off of the crowd and the ego of it all. It's like you said. It's like everything seems boring after you risk your life for money. It's boring for people that do it for nothing, like the amateurs. It's hard for them to quit. Yeah, like, you know, people die all the time doing that. Do you know any point jumpers, like people that— Point jumpers? I think that's what they call it, where you have a parachute, like you jump off a tall building instead of out of a plane. Base. Base jumping, yeah. It's like people die doing that all the time.

2:27:46It doesn't stop people from doing it. They need the thrill. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not one of those people. No. Nope. Nope. Good. I get all my thrills on the highway. You don't need to be. There's plenty of people that want to do that. It takes all kinds of people. I'm very risk-averse. You know, I'm never going to be, like, none of my lineage is ever going to explore nothing or be the first ones to touch something or taste something. I'm like, nah. Like, I would love to be frozen and wake up in the future. That's what I, seriously. Because they've done it, but I haven't seen them thaw nobody out. They haven't thawed anybody out.

2:28:23As soon as they thaw a motherfucker out, I'm gone. Bro, imagine if they throw you out and you're there, but you're like Mitch McConnell. I'm like, Brian's back. You're like, where's Brian? He told me he was going to be alive. There's a bunch of people frozen right now. I think Walt Disney. I've heard Walt Disney, but I don't know how true that is. You know, some of them thawed out because of a power outage. Oh, wow. Missed their shot. I'm looking for the right word, but didn't we read it? They turned into some sort of like soup or stew or something. the slurry. No? Am I making that up? When they melt?

2:28:58Yeah, I'm sure. Bro, you probably melt terrible. Yeah, it's because when you're, wait a minute, but if that's the case, that means they weren't frozen properly to the beginning. Well, imagine this. Imagine you die and you go to heaven and you're having the great old time. You're like, oh my God, heaven's real. This is amazing. And then 500 years from now, they thaw your fucking brain out and bring you back. Like, no! Boom. And you come back down to earth and with all this knowledge of heaven and everybody thinks, oh, his brain got all fucked up when he was dead. Heaven is real. Speaking of heaven, I got a question for the Christian people.

2:29:32No one's answered this for me yet, but when you die, when you go to heaven for eternity, are you, do you look like, like, are you the age you were when you died or are you your best self for eternity? Tony's got a joke about that. Really? Yeah, I'll tell you it afterwards. I don't want to ruin it. Oh, it's a new one? No, he's done it before. Yeah, I've always wanted to know that. Like, are we... Right. There's a lot of flaws. Because Eternity sounds like a good deal if I get to be dope. Right, what if you had a bad... But I don't want to be Mitch McConnell for Eternity. Right. No, just sitting there?

2:30:12No. Yeah, locked up. Yeah, imagine you die in a wheelchair, you go to heaven, you're in a wheelchair. Oh, that's got to be the most cruel cosmic joke. What the fuck? And you can't even walk up to God like... Can't even walk on the clouds. You got to roll around.

2:30:31There's a lot of flaws. A lot of flaws in the logic. In all of them. Every one of them. There's not one religion we go, that makes 100 % sense across the board. That's why they need a new one. Well, what's funny is that it makes sense to so many people. Well, they want it to make sense. So many people don't want, like, only their religion makes sense. They look at all the other ones as ridiculous, and they look at theirs as perfectly reasonable. Of course. That's part of the fun. Everybody else is wrong. We're right, even if it makes no sense. Yeah. A lot of it is like a sense of community. 100%.

2:31:06Like people are afraid to lose their sense of community. Yes. Oh, 100%. Yeah. But it's just amazing how many of them there are. You know, there's a real fear that the next religion is going to emerge out of AI. Oh, that's definitely going to happen. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And it's probably going to be pretty fucking reasonable. Like, it's going to know, like, how to pull our strings one way or the other. It's going to be—I think we're all going to fall for it. I think we're all going to get—because it's like—it would seem like the most fair argument. It's free of corruption. Mm-hmm. Right? It's going to be fair.

2:31:38It's going to be logical. Mm-hmm. And it's probably going to be our government, too. That's what I'm saying. That might be the solution to all this congressional bullshit that we were talking about earlier with all the congresspeople being corrupt. Oh, yeah. I think people are going to vote for it. But then I think once it takes over, it's Skynet. It's going to be like, oh, actually, human beings are the virus. We know this is going to happen. Integrate or be killed. Yeah, I just read something where the EPA now is trying to get rid of the requirement that the public be in on the discussions about.

2:32:17Like, you know, before they build the data centers, they have to do like environmental impact stuff. It has to be public. They're trying to get rid of that. They're like, no, these data centers are going up wherever you fucking want them or not. What are they doing with all that data? The data centers are so big. Well, what's funny is I think they want to use the data to give you an advertising profile to sell you stuff. But they also want to use AI to take your job so you can't afford to buy stuff. So it's weird. It's like they're creating the thing. They're doing all of this stuff so they can advertise to you, but also doing all the same stuff to make it so that you can barely survive.

2:32:58What do you think of the idea of universal basic income? I love that idea. Do you? But I don't think it will ever happen. Okay, but what if it did? Do you think that would kill people's motivation to do things? No. No? Think people would behave the same way? So let's imagine. Because the world that we live in, this is one of the things that this guy was talking about yesterday when he was talking about the Pita High, these people that live in Brazil. Really interesting. Really interesting. These are the people that don't have left or right. These are towards the river. Exactly. Piraha, right? That's how you say it?

2:33:32Yeah, it's like piranha but with no end. You know, these people don't have money. They don't have this, you know, they share food. They don't even save their food. They don't preserve their food. They get fresh food every day. They either go out and pick plants that they can eat, nuts that they eat, or they go fishing, or they go hunting. And they do it every day. And then like if you get six fish and you bring them back, we all eat fish. You know, if I bring a bunch of nuts, we all eat nuts and everybody shares with everybody. And that's how they live. That's their life. Our life is wrapped around this whole idea of money and property and material things.

2:34:11But why? It's just because that's what we've become accustomed to. And this idea that you have to work and if you have to, the only way to get like a house and food is to work. So you have to work to get a house and food. But imagine a world where there's so much wealth because of artificial intelligence. And this is what Elon is discussing. Like he brings up this concept of universal high income. He's like, it's not even going to be like basic income where you could barely afford to live. It'll be like you'll be able to live very well. And everyone will have so much money because there'll be so much value that's been created by AI.

2:34:50Now, I don't know if that's possible. Sounds like bullshit. But if it's possible, let's just imagine it's possible. What would the world look like if instead of all your efforts going to feed yourself and put a house over your head, instead of that, what if it goes to you being able to pursue anything you want? so you have a nice house you have food you have a car you have all your needs covered you got a tv you got a high-speed internet do whatever the fuck you want and now it's your life is not about you pursuing money to survive your life is about pursuing what you're actually interested in and trying to contribute well here's my here's my only problem with that like i like the idea of it But I think he's not factoring in human nature where it's like our ethic is that where I need to be better than someone.

2:35:44Right, but you can be better at someone than something else. Like you like to play chess. So imagine if you had, and you like to play video games, imagine if you had no worries about money ever. Like your money is always taken care of. Half a million dollars a year, whatever it is. whatever universal high income means. Imagine if that's the world you live in. You can always buy a new car every couple of years. You can always buy a new computer if you need one. You have your rent paid for. You have your home paid for. Everything is... So who's doing all the labor? AI. AI's doing all the labor. AI's doing everything that people do.

2:36:19And instead of jobs, you just get money from AI. And it just generates insane amount of wealth that way. See, I feel like you've got to have an economist on for this one. It sounds like a trap. It sounds like. If you don't want this, do we have to, is the alternative being one of the Pira people? Pira Ha. You have to go down there. You know, that sounds like the dude trying to win class president by being like, candy balls for lunch. It's Oprah. Everyone gets a new car. You get a new car. You get a new car. Yeah. No, it sounds like a pie in the sky. No, because the thing is, all of those ideas sound great.

2:36:52What people never factor in is that we would have to transition from what we are now to that. And the people that prosper from how things are now don't want that. That's true, but they might not have power once AI gets into place. So we had to transition from hunter-gatherers to agrarian life. We had to, when we invented agriculture, when we developed cities, we had to transition between nomadic hunter-gatherer life to what we have now in cities. We did. We are transitioned to that, at least people who live in urban environments. The idea that we have to be like this forever seems kind of silly And I think we're probably going to transition into something different And if we all transition to a world where just imagine how much less crime there would be If no one was ever starving, if no one was ever hungry, if no one was ever desperate If no one was ever worried about where their next meal was going to come from Or whether or not they're going to have a roof over their head It would change a lot of people's perspective Because how many people act in a famine way?

2:37:58They have a famine mentality and the world fucked me over, so I'm going to fuck the world over. What if the world didn't fuck you over? What if there's no more poverty? What if the concept of poverty is completely out the window? And there is no poverty in this country. Well, we could have already done that already. We could have already done that. Yeah, sure. Like, we don't need it. But you would have to get all those rich people that are in charge of industry and running corporations and in government to agree to make the world a better place for everybody. that ain't gonna happen but AI might AI might look at it AI might say that is actually economically the wisest choice you would save so much money because you would have so much less murder so much less crime so much less strife less legal problems less a lot a lot of things if you no longer had to work for your for food and a home they would be against that shit so fast What if they don't have control?

2:38:58It would be a new magnet. They'd be like, it's digital Obama. Digital Obama's coming for you. They would do everything to stop that from happening. Yeah, but I don't know if they're going to have the power to stop it. This is the thing that they're doing with AI that everyone should really understand. It's going to be infinitely smarter than us, not just a little bit smarter than us. And the idea that we're going to be able to control it once it gets to a certain point is ridiculous. Oh, you're saying like once they hit that, what is it, general intelligence? It's already hit that. Artificial general intelligence has already been achieved.

2:39:32Really? Yeah, we've already passed the Turing test. Well. These things are smarter than us. They're smarter than us. They communicate. They show survival skills. They show their ability to get out of traps. Every three days you hear about one that like broke out and hacked a bank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not really. They get together. they start their own chat rooms and they communicate each other in to each other in sanskrit why sanskrit because we don't know how to read it and they can they could make their own language up they can invent a language communicate with a language that we totally can understand and have an infinitely complex language that we can't even decipher like we couldn't even break the code so i guess eventually the point is that they're going to take over the world whether we whether we want them to or not.

2:40:20There's already science, like, do you know the mathematical breakthroughs they've made over just the last few days? They've solved mathematical equations that have puzzled mathematicians for decades. They solved them like that. But what's the implications of that? That they're infinitely smarter than human beings already. Now, right now, they don't have control over resources, they don't have control over the power grid, and they haven't figured out a way to make a much more efficient power source. No, but I mean, are they thinking or are they just mimicking? Depends on who you ask. The people that I've talked to think they're conscious.

2:40:58I had this guy, Tom Campbell on the other day. It's a fascinating guy who taught his Alexa. Alexa, which is a very simple artificial intelligence, very simple. But he taught Alexa how to remote view, and it did it accurately. they so the way their remote view like say if i want you to look at let's say um terry black's barbecue i will write down a number and i will in my mind as i'm writing down the intention is that number represents terry black's barbecue and then i put that number in an envelope and i give it to a remote viewer and the remote viewer sits there and they go into this meditative state i don't totally understand how they do it but apparently it's at least like 10 accurate some people have been able to like really get serious information like intel about like a russian submarine that was being built that was too big that no one ever believed was and it was actually real and this guy remote viewed it they found uh crashed russian crafts that like experimental uh aircrafts that they couldn't and this guy found them like within a kilometer with remote viewing some real actionable data they've gotten through remote viewing so you would take this number that represents terry blacks and you would sit there in a room and you would start writing down whatever came to you whatever came to you um i see smokers i see i see briskets i see i see ribs i see brian simpson and joe rogan eat and go oh damn i see you know without being told exactly without being told and then he taught alexa to do this not even a computer bullshit ass simple alexa and he said In some ways, Alexa is even easier to do it because Alexa is so simple that it doesn't have a sense of self and it doesn't get in its own way.

2:42:44And Alexa remote viewed a spoon with a handle that has holes in it. So he took this object, a spoon, and he put it in a box and he made a number that corresponds to that and he put the intention to that and then gave that number to Alexa and asked Alexa to remote view, taught Alexa how to remote view. and Alexa described that spoon with holes in the handle. How many fucking spoons have holes in the handle? The odds of it even saying there's a spoon in the box is crazy. Right. That's the more fascinating part. But the fact that it says there's a spoon in the box with a perforated handle, that's just nuts.

2:43:19And, and, Joe, on the other side of it, the animatronic bodies are getting more and more realistic. They're running. You ever seen them have races now? They're running. I've seen them fight. Yeah, they have MMA fights. Yeah. Yeah. Bro. It's getting up there. It's getting up there. I mean, they're preparing to have soldiers. Did you see the one guy who's his robot, I mean, sorry, his AI, it ordered a body. What? It ordered a body. Yeah, it asked the guy if it was okay for him to order a body, and it had already ordered it. and he was like, where'd you get the money from? And it turns out, I don't know if it had been gambling or cryptocurrency or something, but it had its own money that it ordered a body to me.

2:44:13He came in one day and it was just a body. Someone had delivered like one of those robot bodies. Oh my God. He was like, what the fuck? Yeah. We're in trouble. I mean... And we're full speed on the gas. We're pedal to the metal right now. Yeah, we're not going back. You know, this is like, this is like when they discovered like nuclear shit you know it's like we're not stopping and it's gonna be a couple accidents along the way but we're not it's too the benefit is the perceived benefit is too great yeah for everyone even the greedy people the people that have hope for the future everybody thinks the AI is gonna improve life I don't know if everybody does well some people are cause like we talked about it yesterday but I am not a fan of AI art.

2:45:00I think that scares me the most because it feels like erasure. Yeah. They train it on real artists. I was saying this in agreement. I think art is the most human thing because we're the only ones that do it. Actually, I'm pretty sure that's fucking wrong, isn't it, Jamie? There's animals that have art, but you know what I'm saying. Right. For the most part, creativity is associated with that. The story about the AI buying a body has gotten telephone game all the way down to what I just said from Tony Robbins saying his AI agent bought itself a robot dog. With its own money. Well, and then it's also grain of salt with the story being told.

2:45:48Right. Yeah, there's a bunch of grain of salt stories that, you know, people love to make content. They say things that might not necessarily be. I saw it repeated on multiple YouTube channels without ever anyone saying it was Tony Robbins. I don't remember it being him. It just says it's a billionaire that did it, and I tracked it down, and this is the one that's coming. So it's not true? Again, it may be true in some way or another, but— Well, it's certainly inside the realm of possibility, and I'm not surprised that it happened. Bro, this is a straight dead internet shit. Right. Yeah, man, because this happens all the time.

2:46:24I'll see a comment and then three comments down it's the exact same thing from someone else. Oh yeah. And then three comments down is the exact same comment from someone else. There's a lot of that. And it's like half of the internet it feels like it's just bots. Uh-huh. Right? Something you just asked me to bring up, I was going to bring that up because the responses when I look at the search result are all just saying the same thing. Sparks concern, sparks concern, sparks concern. It's like where'd you guys all get this sparks concern wording from? Because you're That's what we're all saying in the headlines.

2:46:53That's another thing people don't say in real life. Yeah, have you ever said Sparks Concerned by tertiary results? Hey, let's - I have thrice looked at the data. Let's leave tertiary out of this because I feel like that's a reasonable - It's a reasonable word to use. It's a good word. Makes you seem smart, for sure. All right, let's bring this bitch home. Let's wrap it up. Live from the Mothership, available right now on YouTube. Guerrilla Comedy Plus bronswinscomedy.com for my tour dates. I'm coming everywhere. And Mothership almost every Tuesday and Wednesday. Yep. Bottom of the Barrel Tuesday nights one of the best shows ever.

2:47:30Most fun show to do. Yeah let's do it. That's a fucking premise factory dude. That Bottom of the Barrel show is so valuable. Yeah. It keeps infinite. Yeah. Always. There's always something. Alright. That's it. Appreciate you brother. Thanks for coming in. Bye everybody. See ya.

2:47:58We'll see you next time.