#2555 - Ron White

23:56I mean, you can still buy in Paris. You can go to, you can get a fucking card and go in and buy weed. Okay. And then. Well, that's silly, man. God, the whole thing's so silly that that's still an issue. I get the whole smoking pot publicly. It is gross, especially to non-smokers and people with families. Yeah, I forget how strong the smell is. Yeah, it's strong. I get that. I understand that. That makes sense to me. but the laws against it are just stupid they're just fucking stupid speaking of felonies you can't do that on the air huh i'm not it's a cigar oh okay you can smoke that on the air i brought you one too oh thank you let's go it's uh actually i can't tell you where it's from uh-oh because uh that's a felony too but why huh oh is this from that other country that some foreign country actually bought it and i think those are legal to have no they're not i think cuban cigars are legal to have and that's not what we're talking about because these definitely wouldn't be cuban cigars no i think cuban cigars are legal to have oh i think you're allowed to have a certain amount of them now where it used to be there was an embargo to all trade to cuba and i think there's a limited amount of cuban cigars you're allowed to possess let's look that up i don't think that's right i believe that's the case do you need a lighter sir there you go thank you very much Ron White, ladies and gentlemen.

25:16What a gentleman. Boy, this smells like south of Florida. Yeah.

25:25This is tough. Damn, these are legit. Damn, this is a real thing, Ron White. Yeah, it is. There's like a loophole. Isn't it weird? There's a loophole? Yeah. Isn't it weird how like some countries are just way better at certain shit? Can you buy Cuban cigars at a U.S. shop? No. No. Can you order Cuban cigars online for delivery to the U.S.? No. Yeah, you can. Smoke a Cuban cigar while abroad where the law permits it. Generally, yes, but do not bring it back. What? That's crazy. Imagine they're telling you whether or not you can smoke a Cuban cigar if you're in England. Right. I used to get them from England.

26:08I had a dude in England that would send them to me. This is way back in the Dizze, and he would send me a box of them with no bands on them, and then he would send me a separate bag with all the bands in it in an envelope. You notice these don't have bands on them. That's the thing, yeah. But there's so many fake ones. No, that's the most—the most counterfeited thing in the world is Cohiba cigars. uh look at this says for a period ending september 2020 travelers could bring limited cuban cigars back for personal use that exemption was removed exception was removed current cbp guidance says people subject to u.s jurisdiction may acquire cuban goods while outside the united states in certain circumstances but may not import cuban origin tobacco products into the country well Well, thank God these aren't Cuban.

26:58Yeah, thank God. Well, I bought them in Switzerland, so I assume they're Swiss. They must be. They must be. They're really good at everything over there, including cheese. Well, they're good at cigars. That's Zeno Davidoff from Switzerland. Oh, really? Yeah. Where do they get their tobacco? Well, he was rolling cigars. He was making cigars in Cuba, but he smelled the whole thing coming before everybody else did and moved to Dominican Republic. And before he did that, he moved seeds over there, started plantations, moved his rollers over there. So really, when that all went down, the only really good cigar you could get was Davidoff.

27:31It's kind of crazy how the Cubans really are so much better. There's like a level. They're a level above. They're a level above. And one of it is the rollers. You know, they just had generational rollers. And they have these big rolling rooms. Somebody would sit up in front of the thing and read them books. And they'd just sit there and roll these beautiful fucking classic cigars that smoke gorgeous and taste gorgeous. Well, if you don't have that, there have been companies that have bought other cigar companies just to get their rollers and then discontinue the line altogether. Now I need these guys twisting up some fucking.

28:03Yeah, you need the wizards. Yeah. There was a place in Miami where we used to go to when we would do the Miami improv. And you could go and watch these people who were used to be in Cuba and now they're in Miami rolling cigars. Watch them do it. And making beautiful cigars. And they'd cut it and roll it out. Right. And they'd sell you the cigars right there. And it's like incredible. You watch them do it. And that is pure contraband, too, you know, because that tobacco is coming from somewhere. I don't know where they're getting it. I don't know if they even said. I don't remember. This was a long time ago.

28:34But, you know, you can get great cigars from Nicaragua, great cigars from Dominican Republic, but there is a difference. Yeah, there's a difference. It's crazy. You know, it's a really small area, too, where they grow the best. It's a little tiny place. And actually, you can still buy pre-embargo Cuban cigars in America. So if it was rolled and brought into the country before the embargo, they're legal. And there's a market for them. And they're expensive. Pre-embargo Cuban cigars. How old are those? Well, they have to have been kept the whole time in humidors. Whoa. But these big, rich guys that, you know, cigars were a penny.

29:12And then Cuban cigars came available and they were a nickel. Nobody going to pay a nickel. You know, this is 120 years ago. and uh but it turns out they did pay a nickel and they were just that much better and then those guys when they heard about that embargo they bought everything there was and built these huge humidors and when they died those things went on the market you know and oh wow i stayed at the fairmont hotel in san francisco and they have a cuban cigar outlet in that hotel so i I bought one because it was like$200. So it was like a 1960 cigar? 62 or something like that. That's crazy.

29:52See if you can find those online. Are those available online? I'm sure they are. That's a crazy thing. Yeah, it's pre-embargo Cubans. You know what JFK, or RF, yeah, JFK rather. JFK did that before he made the embargo. He bought a shitload of cigars, brought them back. You motherfucker. Yeah, and he knew what he was doing. You motherfucker. He knew what he was doing. You motherfucker. Yeah. You did that and then you made them illegal. Yeah. What's up? I had to click. I was 18 plus on Reddit to look at a picture of them. It says it's NSFW content and it's just pictures of cigars. Why is that not safe for work?

30:27I have no idea. It looks like the whole cigar thing is all NSFW. Pre-embargo 1962. Are those for sale or they're just photos? I was just finding a photo. I thought that was super strange. That is super strange. I probably can't find them on eBay, I bet. It's porn for cigar people. Yeah. Right? They just want to stare at them. I felt it move. What is it about men who love collecting things that are hard to get? Well, I think that once you have money and then all the things you thought you wanted, you get those and then you want something you can't have. This is not too bad. This is one that's 300 bucks for one cigar.

31:07I wonder if I'm a bundle of 25. What? Really? I think it's a bundle of 25. That's ridiculous. That's really cheap. That's cheap for any Cuban cigar. Wow. That can't be possible. No. I paid more than that for... These guys are fucking you. Probably fake. This is how you get... I bet. Maybe it's not. Stumble across fake sneakers really quickly. But is that really? You're buying Jordans. Look at the reviews. You think it's real? It's all four stars, five stars. I would just say, if you guys are already saying the price isn't right, this is some fake shit. I don't know. Ron would be the one to know.

31:36I didn't even know about this until 20 minutes ago. Maybe it's real. This is how people... I'm telling you, say, you buy fake Jordans. Jamie, let's order a box. I can't imagine that this is real. Order a box, please. Add to cart. Who's going to smoke it first and test it? I will. I will. Ron and I will. We'll bring it to the club.

31:55Just pause that. Just put that aside. Send it to me. I'll order a box. We'll see what's up. All right. As long as we don't get in trouble. It's totally legal? Yeah, it's totally legal. If it's pre-embargo. It didn't say that in the other thing. It didn't say pre-embargo. Here's a review. First five-pack I bought was not good. Every single cigar was plugged and didn't have a smooth and easy draw, not just from this particular cigar, but Camacho as a whole. And he still gave them four stars? However, the handwritten thank you card I received, I never forgot, and gave Cigar City a second chance to the latest five-pack I bought.

32:28It was well worth the price. It's a sad day when the Cuba tobacco bundlers for this cigar are all used up. This may be my number one favorite cigar, hands down. The transition between each third is absolutely incredible. So the first five-pack sucked, and the second five-pack was insane. Huh. Well, they're cheap. Maybe they have— They have ten reviews total, seven or fives, and three or fours. Yeah. I'm just saying. Eight. All right. Take a swing at five cigars. Fuck it. I'll take it in. You can handle it. Yeah, we'll see what's up. We'll say you get beat out of— We'll be all right. I bought dumber shit.

33:07No. For sure. How's that fucking Corvette you got, baby? How's that thing? Somebody wants to buy it from me. You know who? Who? Jay McGraw. Does he? Oh. Yeah. He can get one of those. He can get one built. You don't want to sell yours. Yours is yours. Yours is set up for you. Yeah, that's my car. That thing's beautiful, man. Yeah, you can't sell that. You have to keep that. Someday when you die, that'll go on auction. It'll be worth a fuckload of money. That thing is beautiful. And it's got a bar in the trunk. It doesn't have it anymore. You took the bar off. I took it out because it didn't have a top because I wanted that bar for whatever fucking reason, Joe.

33:47Did you get Colvin in Austin? Did they do the work on it? I think they did, right? Yeah. Casey? Yeah, he's the best. They've done some of the work. Some of it was done in Atlanta. I mean, the basic build was done in Atlanta, but the setup on it was done by Kurt Busch's race team. He was testing tires at his oval track, and he said, bring it out here. Because he knew I was building it, and he said, I'll have a guy set it up for you. Oh, that's awesome. And so there's footage on the Internet of him driving at 170 miles an hour on an oval track and me going, what the fuck, dude? He's doing donuts in it.

34:21I'm like, God damn, I just had that fucking paint job. You could drive it, set it up. and he said we need to drop that front end uh uh an inch and uh and i said well yeah what if we dropped that front ron we need to drop the front end in the inch you don't need to ask questions i'm like okay drop the front end an inch buddy you know more about this shit than i do don't you those guys i can't really drive i can drive i mean i've been around a track a few times i know how to drive but not like these guys no they feel things that you and i wouldn't feel they're like oh the left camera's off this is off there's something going it's you know they have all you know the understeer is off something's off i don't like these tires like they feel it with their ass yeah yeah and they did a beautiful fucking job on it and it's so much fun to drive it scares me a little bit because you know it's just got so much power it's so light and and nothing to it but running over 500 horsepower.

35:21I just had fuel injection put on it because it was running kind of rough early on, you know, when I'd get it started, start cold. But now it just boom, boom. Yeah. Was it a carburetor set up before that? Yeah. Yeah. Those stink too. The problem is they make your whole car stink like gasoline. Like, whew. Those old, I used to like that. I used to like it. I still like the smell of gasoline. There's something about you getting an old muscle car, you smell that gasoline. You're like, yeah, America. it's just uh it's so a lot of it is nostalgia you know nostalgia from the time when i was when i was a kid muscle cars were the thing well mine's you know mine was born the same year i was 1956 so so it's been around and it's been around 70 years that car has just like me still running just like me so right but it's got all new parts yeah it's not gonna work on that with you we We could have driven away what we didn't use.

36:13Yeah, that's the same with mine. My 65, there's nothing in that other than the outside. Right, that's all mine is, too. Some of the dashboard and some of that stuff. Everything else, you know, it's got an Art Morrison chassis on it and coilover springs and disc brakes and supercharger. It's got an LS engine in it. That thing is, there's nothing about that that's an old car. I got to tell you, that yours is the prettiest Corvette I've seen. And when I first saw that one, I was like, man, I didn't think anybody could beat me in the Corvette department. That thing's stunning. That thing's a dream boat.

36:51When I first saw it, I was like, oh, shit. When I first saw it, it was a lot different. I brought it to my friend Steve Stroop. When I first saw it, it had the grossest interior. It had cheap Corvette bucket seats from maybe like a C4 Corvette or a C5. They were terrible seats. And the interior sucked, and the shifter sucked, and it was a little underpowered. It didn't have the supercharger in it, and I brought it to Steve Stroop. But it did have the chassis. And so we upgraded the suspension, and then he upgraded everything else and completely redid the interior and put, like, really solid bucket seats that grip you and wider tire and brakes set up, and we got those cool wheels.

37:33Those wheels are sick. Yeah, that's what really set it off. Show a photo of that, Jamie. There's a photo of me with Jay Leno when I did Jay Leno's garage with it. The wheels are controversial. People either love them or they hate them. I fucking love them. I think it just – I wouldn't like them on – I don't think on many cars, but on that car, it's like the perfect wheel for it. What's that green car? I saw you driving out last night. Yeah, that's my other car. Oh, yeah. Look at that son of a bitch. Look at that. Those wheels rule, dude. Those are fucking badass wheels, man. They rule for that car.

38:06That thing is sick. So that was all red. The stripe was red. Steve Stroop turned it black and did the wheels and did everything. He really tuned it in nice where it's just dialed in. Yeah, that's badass. It's so fun, man. That's me and Jay. He's the only other guy that's driven it other than me. That thing's fun. And, again, it weighs nothing. It's probably got 550 horsepower now with the supercharger. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. It may be hard to believe, but identity theft is the number one crime in America. Right now, millions of people are dealing with stolen accounts, fraudulent loans, and the exhausting process of proving who they are to banks, creditors, and credit bureaus.

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40:28A what? We're setting up another studio at the racetrack. Oh, yeah. You told me about that. Yeah. Like at the races a couple years ago or whatever. So sometime around, like, November-ish, we'll start doing podcasts out of there. I hope to get it done right around the time Formula One is in town. That would be fun so I can get some drivers on and do some podcasts from there. Fuck yeah. But so we'll be able to do all of them there? No, some of them. Both places. So we'll be able to go around the track, take guys around the track, take people that have never been around the track. And what I want to do is, like, bring in car companies.

41:03Like, so, you know, Mustang has this new Dark Horse Mustang. Sure. crazy 600 horsepower crazy Mustang like let's let people drive it you want to sell some Mustangs let these guys drive it just for funsies we'll take some pictures and then we'll do a podcast talk some shit you know with whatever musicians comics people yeah and then you know have fun on the racetrack yeah we see a ton of those guys at a driftwood out of my golf course a lot of those guys are golfers and they all go out there and uh and play golf whenever they're in town oh I'm sure or race car driving and golfing. I really wish I could get into golf, and I probably will someday.

41:39I probably will. I'll probably be forced into it. It's a lot like shooting a bow. Don't tell me that because then I can't do it. Yeah. I mean, in that you never do the exact same thing twice. You know, the shot's going to be either further or shorter or the wind's going to be coming from some other way or whatever. So you really have to. And the big difference is when you cock a bow or whatever you call it, that's where all the power is, right? It's already in there. It's built in. You don't have to generate it now. Right. You just aim it. But golf, you have to generate all the power with your body.

42:17Yeah. Which is hard to learn how to do. Well, I watch Jamie. I watch Jamie do it all the time. You ever seen Jamie whack a ball? That fucking dude can get some distance. Jamie can whack a ball. Jamie, you want to come out to Driftwood and play golf with me? I'd love to play at Driftwood. Huh? Driftwood's a great place. I'd love to play there anytime. I'll take you out there. What's your furthest drive? Well, I mean, it's all dependent, but I've hit it over 300 yards, which isn't that important, as Ron would know. It's all about what hole you're hitting it on, and is it worth it hitting 300 yards on that hole?

42:52Yeah. How far can you drive a ball? You know, I hit the ball 235, 240, something like that. But, you know, if I really get into one and I catch a sweet spot, you know, maybe 255, which is nothing compared to 300. But if you find a 70-year-old dude that can do it, then— What is, like, an elite golfer, like the best driver? How far do they go? It would be Rory McIlroy probably at about 325 average. So 100 yards. They hit the ball 100 yards further than me. I played with— Jamie, you're only 25 yards off of some of the best golfers? No, no, no. That's not how I would even word it. Yeah. You're in the middle of the fairway.

43:34You're saying like how far have I ever hit it, which is what I'm answering. It's not how far do I hit it, which is like your average. Would you take out your tops, take out your lows? I see what you're saying. What's your average? Well, that's very humble of you. I'd be bragging my ass off. 300 yards, bitch. No, because then I get out there. I have a shirt made. I can't prove it. Fucking hat. I'm on their ass. I'm going to hit 320. Have you seen those guys that go to those driving ranges and they have these crazy swings? where they completely spin and then rotate their body. They almost do a 180 and then smash it.

44:07Those guys, it's got to be way over 300. Yeah, they're hitting it four. They're sometimes 500 yards in some cases. That's crazy. They're using specialized equipment. They're playing in a specialized place. But they still can't play the game of golf. Right. That's definitely right. Usually. I mean, usually they might be a two or three handicap. They'll be decent at golf. Right. But the elite guys, they can't touch them in the game. Yeah, there's a similarity in Poole, and that's the break shot. This guy's the current champion. 579. Jesus, Kyle. Yeah. That's insane. Yeah, that's like fucking half a mile, isn't it?

44:46It is. This isn't even like 425. This is on a course. He's probably got a 3-1. Oh, my God. He's a big dude. He's also playing out, and he's getting a little bit of help with elevation out there. You can tell he's out in the mountains. Right. A little help. Wow. A little help. But that's what you want. You want to hit it on the green. That's kind of what's way more important. 410 yards. Yeah, if you can do that, that's bonkers. That's bonkers. Wait until some of those, like, super athlete NFL players get involved in golf. LeBron's gotten involved recently. Oh, God. And he started a YouTube channel, but he obviously doesn't have a ton of time to play.

45:20Right. Because he's busy. But his growth in the year he's played is pretty remarkable. Of course. He's a super athlete. Same with Justin Gaethje. Yeah. I mean, he's really good to start, but he's played forever. Justin? Yeah. I think, didn't he say he took six months off or three months off and played every single day? Well, what happened was when he got hurt in the Max Holloway fight, he didn't do nothing for, like, a long time. And he just let his body heal, let his brain heal, and he played golf every day for, like, a year. And DC was saying, like, dude, he got so fucking good. But, of course, he's an athlete.

45:53Like, if you're a world champion MMA fighter, you can kind of do anything if you set your mind to it. Right. You can play golf. He could skateboard. Sure. He could do whatever the fuck he wants. Because those guys also are ridiculously flexible, right? He's not that flexible. Oh, yeah. He's loose, though. That's kind of what matters more. I mean, I went to stretch zone today. You know, that's where I go to. You go to stretch zone? Do you go to someone who stretches you? It's the best thing in the world, man. And it's kind of resistant stretching, which takes an hour. And they just have you on a table and they're just bending you around.

46:27And, boy, you can play some golf when you get off of that. Really? Nothing frees up your lower back. You've got to be able to. How many people are doing it? Just one person. One guy just holding you down and twists you. Yeah, but they've also got straps where they strap you to the table. So, I mean, they can do things to you. That you can't do to yourself. You just can't get that kind of stretch in. Interesting. And I fucking love the place. And it seems like, and it's never busy, and it seems like that, because there are tons of old guys out there playing golf. Every one of them should be on that table.

46:58It fixes everything. Do you do anything to work out to, like, strengthen your body other than playing golf? No. You should probably do, like, a light kettlebell routine. I'm not going to do a kettlebell, but maybe some rubber bands or something. Kettlebells are not hard, man. You don't have to be lifting something heavy. I've seen video of you doing it. It looked like it would break me in half. Yeah, but you don't have to do that weight. You can do a real light weight. A light weight is a great workout. Sometimes I do, like if I'm not feeling that good, I'll do just a routine that I do with a 35-pound kettlebell.

47:30If I just want to break a sweat, I don't want to really exert myself, but I want movement and I want my tissue to loosen up. I'll do a whole routine with a 35-pound kettlebell. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I should do more. It would be great for your golf, though. There's a lot of things you do, like rotational twists, things, that would be really good for just generating force with your drive and just control of your body, just overall body control. Yeah. I know that I lost some muscle when I was just losing weight with the Zempic or whatever it was. So I know I could get more, and I know that the whole secret to me getting to be 80 and still mobile is because of his leg strength.

48:12Yeah. And I was really kind of impressed with myself in Switzerland because I was getting around pretty good, you know, because I do, you know, I do whatever, testosterone and human growth and all that kind of stuff. So it does make my muscles stronger because I was I was doing things. I'm like, there's no way I get up to the top of that thing. And I just chug on up there out of breath. But my legs are fine, you know. Yeah, it makes you your body behave like a younger body. That's the whole key. People miss out on that because they're afraid of the stigma attached to taking testosterone. Like, look, your body doesn't make it anymore.

48:46When your body makes it, you feel better. Get all this ideological shit out of your head, especially like a lot of my left-wing friends. They're very adverse to the idea of taking testosterone. Like, look, you don't have to take a lot of it. It's not what we're saying. We're not saying get on steroids. What we're saying is bring your body back to levels that it had like when you were 30, and you'll feel so much better. Your immune system will work better. You'll sleep better. Look, I mean, just look at me, the difference from when I came to Austin and you came to Austin. And and and then I was still drinking really, really hard and ridiculously hard.

49:21And but I was 30 pounds heavier and sluggish. I never felt good. And and today I just after, you know, just doing going to ways to well and, you know, taking all that stuff. And I got to tell you, I feel better than I have in fucking ever. I'm just, I think that everything in my life is stronger than it was then. I mean, I think the stand-up's even stronger. I think it is too. And I think you add on to that, like a little bit of weightlifting. I don't mean anything crazy. And one of the best things you could do is what's called a farmer's carry. Just get a couple dumbbells and just walk. You can walk around your property.

50:03You can walk around your street. You know, I do like a couple hundred yards and then a couple hundred yards back. I go up a hill, then I go down a hill. The whole thing takes me like 15 minutes. It's phenomenal for your body. Like carrying things, like carrying heavy things is really good for you, man. It's great for your grip strength. It's great for your back, your core, like everything. Everything felt like right when I first started doing it, my body was like, oh, yeah, do more of this. It's like intuitively I was like, oh, this is tying everything together. Like moving weight around I think is very important not just standing there and like pressing and doing stuff like in stationary I think there's some real benefit in like walking with stuff because you got to balance it It's heavy and you're moving around your grip gets tired You have to set it down and then you fucking how much weight are you carrying 200 yards?

50:52140 pounds. Oh fuck You don't saw two little weights in your hands Well, this might be a different time you saw me, but I don't think there's any video of me doing that. But these kettlebells, they're each 70 pounds. So I have one in each hand. So it's 140 pounds total. And I'm walking up this hill, and then I'm walking down the hill. And I do it every other day. It's phenomenal. And then you work out every single day. Yeah, every day. Every day I do something. I have to do something. Just for sanity. Yeah. I guess if you're not moving forward, you're moving backwards. I just want to maintain.

51:27And also sanity. The real thing is sanity. The world's nuts. Like one great way to like alleviate some of the pressure of paying attention to how nuts the world is, is do something really hard. Do a hard workout. Do a yoga class. Do something difficult. Just something that takes you out of it for a minute and just relaxes you. Yeah. I'd like to get back into yoga again. I did that for a while. And that was so good for me. That's one of the best things I bet for golf. Oh, yeah. It is. No doubt about it. And you'll play forever. and just do yoga. I had this hot little yoga and started to come over to my house and it was just a great way to just fucking start the day and I did it every day.

52:05What happened? Well, other girlfriends didn't like her because she was too hot. I'm like, I don't know if I'm willing to fade all the heat just for some yoga where all my motives suck anyway. I just wanted to be near the... There's something very hot about yoga ladies too. A really good one. Yeah. Oof. yeah so i'm gonna get back into something we met a a female trainer the other day that's friends with john paul and eloise and uh so we're gonna hire her to start come over the house oh there you go that's a good move start there you go working because i'll i'll i'll do more with a with a woman really yeah just to show her that you can do it you know just just i don't know i You show up for it if it's warm.

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53:43Sign up and get 10 % off at BetterHelp.com slash JRE. That's BetterHelp.com slash JRE. But, yeah, that's what I need to focus on for next, you know. Yeah, you got to keep the body healthy. You know, your body's healthier now than it's been before. Now you got to start strengthening it. It's real simple. And you can. Like, there's no reason to get weak. other than an injury, other than something that's wrong with you, it's out of your control, there's no reason. No reason to just be weak. You can be healthier. Yeah. I'm after it. It's fun, too. You have more energy for other stuff, you know. Your life has more.

54:25You have more vitality. It'll only get better, Joe. It'll only get better. That's what I'm saying, dog. How come people are ragging on our club, man? Who's ragging on our club? I'm watching on TikTok. talk people are that goddamn mothership it's a walled garden someone warned me about that a long time ago this philosopher guy that i know he said you got to be careful because like it looks like you guys are having too much fun and other people can't get in and they feel like it's a walled garden because they want to shit on it you know the thing is like people like what because we're all friends in there it's because like it's a very intimate group of friends and we don't know when somebody else is going to come in there and listen to us bullshitting and then go jabber away to some fucking buddy else.

55:06Or get upset at some of the things that someone says because some people say horrible things in that room and don't even mean it because it's funny. No, right. They say it to be funny. Yeah. And then there's, I've seen some of that. One of the things that I've seen is people that are talking about like the kind of comedy that they hear there. And what they're talking about is Brian Holtzman. And they were talking about this guy he's yelling about gay people. Like you, hold on. You're talking about Brian Holtzman. Like, what that is is like the comedy version of death metal. Okay? Death metal. Some people like death metal.

55:41Right. You don't have to like death metal. And you don't have to watch it or listen to it. Yeah, you might be into opera. But that guy is fucking hilarious. And offstage, the sweetest, nicest guy you ever want to meet. The nicest person there is. Onstage, he becomes this fucking maniac. But it's like satire. It's on purpose. It's not a real person. Yeah, it took me a while to get it. It's brilliant. He's one of the best comics alive. He's one of the funniest guys I know. Like, he's fucking hilarious. Is it offensive? 100%. Yeah. Some of the things he's going to say will offend the fuck out of you.

56:12They will offend the fuck out of you. They offend me. I'm like, Jesus Christ, Holtzman. But you've got to leave room for that. There's always got to be room for everything. There's room for everything. And if it doesn't work, the people won't laugh. And if they don't laugh, he won't come back. You know? After a while, that's it. But they laugh. We laugh hard. And you could say, this is awful that they're laughing at that. And you got a point. But that's not what it is. Right. No, I'm telling you, I didn't get it at first. And because I saw him eat it one time and I was like, because he can, you know, he can find a crowd that's tough.

56:47But that can happen. But a lot of now he's got his own crowd. Yeah, his own crowd. They're looking for it. The other thing that people keep saying is that it's like a right wing club. The vast majority of the people that are in that club, working in that club are left wing. That's crazy talk. People just assume because they connect Tony, you know, and people also connect me to that. I mostly think that's because they don't know me. And because I look right wing and because I did kind of help Trump. But other than that, you think that might be what's going on? I've been left wing my whole life.

57:21Well, I know you have very left wing views on a lot of fucking things. I have very left wing views on a lot of things. But I also recognize when government is taking over our lives and what we were sold with the Trump administration would be that would end. And, you know, there'd be a drain the swamp. Obviously, it's not been ideal like in that regard. I think it's. Yeah. Well, you know how I feel about a lot of people. And I always have. I mean, I'm left of, certainly left of some of it, but I also carry a weapon, and I believe in the death penalty. And, you know, but for the most part, you know, I'm a left-leaning faction in the green room, you know.

58:11I mean, I'm voting for— You and Brian Simpson. Brian Simpson's very left, too. But, you know, Tony's the only one who's, like, on the right. Tony's like legitimately right wing. No, he's MAGA. That's kind of, well, I guess. I don't know. I don't even know if you would say that. But he's like pretty openly right wing. Me and him argue about left wing, right wing stuff all the time. But it's like the problem is not left wing, right wing. The problem is like rational and insane. Yeah. Like the open borders was insane. That was horrible fucking. Yeah. A horrible fucking move. The COVID mandates were insane.

58:49Forcing people to get vaccinated was insane. All that stuff was insane. That stuff scared the shit out of me. The censorship online was insane. All the woke nonsense forcing you to use pronouns and forcing you to never dead name someone or you get kicked off of Twitter for life. There was so much insanity that we needed some sort of a break moving away from that. And that was that was my position. I was like, this is going to continue because like obviously Biden was not really the president for four years. Right. So the people that were all were running the country will continue to be running the country.

59:23These non-elected people. It wouldn't be him. And then when she's in, it would be the same fucking people, be the same people. I voted for her. I bet you did. I did. And because I wouldn't vote for Trump. And also they were, you know, going after women's rights. Well, I'm going to side with the women because I don't like any kind of candidate, but I'm going to vote. and then the women didn't go and they let me out there like a dumbass holding my dick going well where were y 'all when you say women's rights you mean abortion right yeah because I mean I'm going to be a grandfather in a few months I don't know if you knew that or not congratulations I'm so fucking excited about it and I mean it's just I mean it's happening a little late in life for me but you know now I'm looking like well if i play my cards right and i live as long as my mother did i can i can see this kid through fucking high school the abortion rights thing is a weird one you know it's like i don't think i have a right to tell anybody what to do with their body i'm not a woman i've never been pregnant i have no idea what that's like i have no idea where some guy gets you pregnant and it takes off and you got to make a decision and it's or if there's medical issues coming up it should be between a a family and their doctor.

1:00:38Yeah. I have. So I really, I can't say anything, but there's a weirdness to like late term abortions. And I know most people say that late term abortions are only in the case where it threatens the mother's life. And no one really wants to do that. I know someone who got a late term abortion in New York and it was just because the boyfriend didn't want to have the baby and they waited too long and she was pregnant and it would scare the shit out of me. I'm like, you guys just killed a baby. I'm not saying that happens all the time, but I'm saying just the fact that that can happen scares the shit out of me.

1:01:14Well, aren't there laws against even I mean, even before these laws were passed, weren't there laws saying, well, not pass this? What did they just pass in Massachusetts? Didn't they just pass some new abortion law in Massachusetts? I think the rational thinking is that most women would never want to abort their baby late term, right? And if someone's doing that, it has to be extenuating circumstances. And to eliminate that possibility and to put someone through a life-threatening situation because they really do need an abortion. And the law says they can't have an abortion unless they get some exemption.

1:01:50So they have to prove it. And then the person, their life is at risk. So I could see how you would say we will allow late term abortion so that this can never present itself. Yes. Massachusetts expands abortion access to any point during pregnancy. On Monday, I joined nine states and Washington, D.C. in eliminating gestational restrictions on abortions. So what does this mean exactly? Let's scroll down. I think this means any time during a pregnancy. So this means like eight months, two weeks, you can get an abortion. Most abortions happen when the first trimester. Very few take place after 24 weeks, the previous limit for abortion in the Bay State.

1:02:30Those that do occur after that point often involve situations in which doctors discovered a fetal anomaly late in the pregnancy. Massachusetts law was championed by major medical groups, including the National Society for Maternal Fetal Medicine, the Massachusetts Medical Society, and the state's chapter of the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists. The law received support from Kate Dineen, the abortions rights activist whose son died in utero at 33 weeks. What is it saying? I can go to a different website I was looking at.

1:03:11Yeah. So a lot of people are scared of this because you can have an abortion like really late when the baby is a baby. Yeah, well, I'm, you know, like I'm not for that, but I'm for a woman's right to choose.

1:03:29But for the same reason you just said, I'm not a woman. I don't know what it's like. I don't want the government involved in my. Well, there's some people that think even in the cases of rape and incest, you shouldn't be able to, which is crazy. Well, right. Because then you get to, if you're a rapist, you get to go, I want that chick to have my baby. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, well, whatever. What are we, in the medieval days? In the old Viking days? So what are we going to do about the Texas Senate? You met Tallarico. You liked the guy, right? I did like him. I like his thoughts on the Ten Commandments in schools and public schools.

1:04:08I don't think I think he's right. And he's a very religious guy. And his position is when you put the Ten Commandments in public schools, what you're really doing is you're forcing Christianity to them. And you're not you're not you're probably pushing them away from Christianity or than bring you like forcing it on them. And if you're going to do that, how can you do that and not have like scripture from the Hindu text, scripture from the Book of Mormon, Muslim, you know, Islamic text? Why is it just the Ten Commandments? Yeah, when there's a separation of church and state, that's a state-run organization.

1:04:42Yes. So his position is that, and I think, you know, he's probably right about this, otherwise he'd get sued, is that there's a couple like very wealthy people who are Christian nationalists. and they want to take over the school system and turn Texas completely Christian. And, yeah, I think that's scary. That kind of shit is scary. Pushing whatever your ideology is. Look, if you invite people into your church and you're a person who is of exemplary character and you're a wonderful guy and there's something about this guy like, wow, this guy, the way he lives his life, man, I think he's really cool and kind.

1:05:23I like to see what this church is all about. That's how you get people to be interested in what you're doing and the way you're promoting life. You can't be force fed. But you're forcing it on people. You're just going to push them away from it. It always happens that way. You force it. You can't decide that your way is the way that other people have to live. That's the whole idea of America is you're supposed to have the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're not hurting others. And if you want to believe in whatever, some ancient religion that people gave up on thousands of years ago, who fucking cares?

1:05:58Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah, I first noticed him when he really came out against that school voucher program, which I was against also. What was that? Which one was that? School vouchers. And he lost. He fought so hard against it because they wanted to give school vouchers so you could take this money and go to a private school. But the only people that were using them were people that already had their kids in private schools. Most Texas counties don't have a private school. And a private school can also decide who they want for no reason. They can eliminate anybody. They'll take a student or not take a student.

1:06:33And that came out of the public school system, that money, and went into the private school system. And Tallarico really fought hard against that because we need better teachers. We need more teachers. We need the public school system beefed up. we're getting the shit beat out of us in education. And I think Tallarico was really, really good for that. And I think he's a smart, honest man. I hope he never gets sucked into the corruption of all the money like most people do. But, you know, you really can't put Ken Paxton back in office in the state of Texas. That guy's just too corrupt. You know, he's just a bad egg and we don't need him around here.

1:07:12There's a lot of shenanigans with weed in this state right now. where there's a lot of alcohol lobby money and a lot of people are trying to ban weed and they're trying to make it a felony. They did it. I know, but they're fighting it in court now. There's a bunch of cases. It's really stupid. It was such a big step backwards. I was asking one of these guys that owns a head shop that I like. I go in and talk to them every once in a while. I don't like that Delta 8 or whatever they were selling anyway.

1:07:44But these guys really went all in on these businesses that were legal and all of a sudden, snap, here's the stuff you've got to take out. What do you got left? And that's really brutal for somebody that really weighed it all in. Billions of dollars lost. Yeah. Thousands of jobs. And I guess they burned the weed. That's what I asked him. I said, what did you do with all that weed? Crazy. It's also, look, regulate it and tax it, you fucking idiots. You're missing out on so much money. And also, leave grown adults to do whatever they want to do. You're not going to convince people that weed is fucking PCP.

1:08:21This ain't Reefer Madness days. Right. Everyone's been smoking weed since they were in high school. No matter what kind of propaganda you throw out there, we know it's bullshit. We know what weed is now. Can you go crazy if you smoke too much weed? Yeah, don't smoke too much weed. Can you go crazy if you drink too much? Yeah, don't drink too much. It's the same goddamn thing. don't tell people what to do. You don't have the right, especially when I look at these guys. Like, you guys are dorks. You dorks can't decide what other people do and don't do. And it seems like enough of them would have died that a new set of faces would come around.

1:08:53Well, they're going to lose elections, I'll tell you that, because young people aren't tolerating this bullshit anymore. Like, this is stupid. And not even young people, most people. Most people realize the only way you can come to this conclusion, that there should be laws and felonies, that people should be locked in cages for weed, is if you are either retarded or you're on the take. Yeah. It's one of those two things. One of those two things. Either you're too fucking stupid to be a leader or you're on the take. Right. Because this is dumb. And also, you're missing out on so much tax revenue.

1:09:21How much does California make in tax revenue? How much does Colorado make in tax revenue? A fucking buttload. A buttload. And, you know, even when some weed was legal in Texas, I got mine from Oklahoma anyway. You shouldn't say that online. People, they'll come for you. They will. It's probably like getting those Cuban cigars. Fake, not real Cuban cigars. How much revenue does California get every year? There's a state-by-state breakdown. Okay. And we can put that money in the public schools. $7.765 billion. Billion dollars. Billion dollars. Wow. That is fucking crazy. That's so much money. They're missing out on$7 billion.

1:10:13And they're missing out on how much did the tax, how much did the alcohol lobby give you? Could have been$7 billion. No, I don't think so. So somebody is either retarded or corrupt. Corrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm so sick of it. You know, I'm so sick of it. Texas could be making a shitload of revenue with legal marijuana. And bring in some goddamn gambling. We're sending everybody right across the border to fucking Windstar, although I work there. So don't quit going. But they just dump money into Windstar because Casino in the world is about 300 yards north of Texas. What do you think about that?

1:10:51Do you think that casinos should be everywhere? And what do you think about the argument that if you're promoting gambling and you have these casinos, you're going to ruin people's lives because you're going to give them easy access to something that they're addicted to? They've already got access with fucking DraftKings. You can gamble from anywhere. But they can still go to somewhere else and do it. They go right across the border, go to Louisiana, or fly into Vegas for$79. Right, but there's an argument that you don't want in your state. There's an argument that, like, if you really care about the people in your state, you would probably make it more difficult to go to these casinos.

1:11:28We have horse racing here, right? Do we? Yeah. You gamble on that? Not much, but they moved Rio Dosa down to Texas, the races that were in Rio Dosa, New Mexico or New America. I remember when I was playing pool in New York, the real gambling junkies, they would start their day at off-track betting. They would go and gamble on horse races, and then they would come over to the pool hall later in the afternoon. And lose the rest of it. Yeah, or have stories about how they lost. That's a wild group of folks that you were hanging out with in the New York playing pool, wasn't it? Oh, yeah. Homeless people, junkies, pool hustlers, like some of the wildest people I've ever met in my life.

1:12:12It was really fun. There was this one place that I used to go to in New York City. It was called Chelsea Billiards, And it was a 24-hour place. And regularly you have guys that were sleeping under tables. While it was open? Yeah, because it was open 24 hours. So at nighttime, and they didn't get games, they would just crawl under a table and go to sleep. Because there's a whole downstairs area that was rarely used unless it was, like, really packed. But it was a real pool hall, a real 24-hour pool hall. I met so many degenerates there. There's a great book about that place. It's a great book called Playing Off the Rail by this guy David McCumber.

1:12:50He was Hunter S. Thompson's editor when Hunter S. Thompson was, I think he was working for a newspaper in the Pacific Northwest for a while. McCumber's a very, very interesting guy, great writer. And he took my friend Tony Anagoni, who was a world-class professional pool player, and they traveled around the country gambling and wrote this book. It's a great book. Really, like, really accurate, honest book. Playing Off the Rail? It's called Playing Off the Rail is the name of the book. And the guy, Tony, who was a friend of mine, I did commentary with him on a pool match once in California back in the 90s and hung out with him a bunch of times, played pool with him.

1:13:30And then one day I got a call from a friend of mine that told me he jumped off the bridge. No shit. 17 when he did that. He was 17. He was stricken with road fever. No, no, 22 years later, he got the chance. So when he was 17, he tried to do it. So 22 years later, he got the chance to follow that dream, not as a player, but as a stakehorse, financial backer for Tony Anagoni, a non-smoking, macrobiotic-eating Renaissance pool hustler, student of Eastern religion, and master of the pure green felt poetry of the dead stroke. Tony was a brilliant guy, like an incredible pool player. And again, didn't smoke, didn't drink.

1:14:12He would play for like 24 hours and he'd only drink water. He'd play these long gambling matches with high-end pool players. He was like a world champion caliber pool player. But he jumped off the bridge, man. No shit. Yeah. I don't know what was going on. I wasn't close with him at the time. I hadn't seen him in a few years. He was living in San Francisco. I was living in L.A. And then somebody called me. it's um it's such a scary thing when you you don't know that a guy would do that and then they do it and you're like you're always like what could i have done could i have said something you know sometimes someone will call you and say something it picks you up and you joey diaz will do that all the time he just call you up tell you he loves you yeah he does that to me he's the best and i do it to him too it's like it feels good it's like you you check in you check in with your friends yeah And sometimes when your friend's going through it and you don't know the extent of it, like a lot of men are stoic about that shit.

1:15:15They don't tell you how bad they're suffering. They don't tell you what's going on. You don't know until it's over. And then you're always like, what could I, could I have said something? Could I have done something? Should I have told other people? What could I have done? Yeah. Like Brody. Brody was a rough one. Brody was a rough one. I had no idea. You know, I knew Brody was struggling. I never thought he would take his own life. I thought he was just like he just struggled, you know, like to keep it together But he would get on stage and he'd be brilliant and I was like this guy's clearly like great comic hilarious guy Awesome, awesome guy to be around everybody loved hanging around with him.

1:15:51So he'll be fine I had no idea and then all sudden you get that call you like Brody took his own life. You're like what? No, you know like you like what you can't even believe you don't believe it's real It's like, say it again. I don't believe it's real. Well, if anybody ever says that I killed myself, I didn't. I am not that kind of person. You go find out, Joe, who killed me. I will find out. Yeah, I won't believe it. I knew you would. Yeah. I knew you would. I will. Oh, that's what I was going to tell you, that I went to that trip in Switzerland. Yes. And then we were taking a ride in a car for two and a half hours from Zermatt to Interlochen.

1:16:36And I had this driver from England, Andrew, and he had married a girl from Switzerland and moved there 12 years ago. And when I was in Paris, I really was expecting to get some anti-American sentiment because they don't really like us that much anyway. But I really didn't feel it. And I'm like, oh, well, maybe I'm building this up more than it is. But in Switzerland and also in northern Italy, I felt like I'm getting a cold shoulder in these places. And I asked him about it. I said, is this in my head? And he goes, mate, if you want to know the truth, they don't like your fucking war. They don't like your war.

1:17:27those guys can hit everybody but you and you're slinging missiles and they also don't like the tariffs if you're doing things over there that fuck you up they don't care but if it fucks us up we care I'm like well I didn't have anything to do with it but that war is sitting pretty nasty with just about everybody I think everybody here too there's very few people here that think it's a good idea This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. If you're thinking about building a website, you should try Squarespace. I know because I use it. That's right. JoeRogan.com is powered by Squarespace. It has all the features that you need to create a standout website, like an AI-enhanced website builder, SEO optimization tools, and seamless checkouts with mobile pay links.

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1:18:59Get tickets for Heart of the Beast only in theaters September 25. The only people that I've heard that I think are very intelligent people that think it's a good idea, one of them was Palmer Luckey. Palmer Luckey's a tech guy, a very, very smart guy. And one of the things that he was on a podcast and he was explaining was that Iran had ramped up its missile production above and beyond. And they were actively accelerating their missile program. And if they did acquire a nuke, it would have been a real problem because they have an insane reserve of missiles. That's what he's saying. He's saying if we continue to allow them to ramp that up.

1:19:41and obviously the time the other thing people have said is the timing was poor and that really if the united states was going to attack iran they should have attacked iran when they had the protests when they had people in the streets and they were revolting against the government and the government was executing civilians that's the time and if they did it then i bet the whole world would be with them and i bet the people probably would be with them the people of iran would be with them who knows what the fuck would have happened would have been a different thing yeah But the timing was way off.

1:20:11And his position is also interesting because he makes weapons, right? He makes drones. He makes, like, super sophisticated military technology. But he does it because he thinks it's, well, also it's his business, but he does it. His rationale is that it's important to have a very strong defense and that he's a patriot. That's his position. And his position is that this government is a dangerous government and they were actively trying to ramp up their missile program. Again, you have to take it from perspective that he's also a weapons manager. Right. He's also – he's in the business. But he is a brilliant guy.

1:20:49Yeah, I've seen – And it's not like the Iranian government is really cool and we're misrepresenting them. They're fucking executing people for protesting against the government. They're doing that in the street. They run their government. They run their country with an iron fist. It's scary. they definitely sponsor terrorism they definitely do but also you know they've been attacked they've been overthrown you know we installed their government yeah we monkeyed with it Iran in the 70s or the 50s whatever it was when you see those photographs of it like it was very western they had a democracy it would look nice over there we fucked it all up it was a big part of us fucking it all up and I bet a lot of it had to do with oil I bet it did I bet it did.

1:21:33It's so spooky. The kind of shit that we've been doing and they've been doing and all these governments have been doing all around the world, monkeying with other people's fucking countries. It's like, Jesus Christ, everybody's out there playing Russian roulette. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, and Israel's right in the middle of all that missile slinging also. But, boy, they don't like it. They don't like it. And I don't think they understood that the only thing that keeping Iran from bombing other people was us. So when we started bombing them, they're like, what the fuck? I'm going to start shooting some stuff out to Bahrain and Qatar.

1:22:13That's the other thing is all the other Gulf states that support the attack in Iran. That's kind of nuts. There's all those other countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and all that. They support it. Like they don't want Iran to get a nuclear weapon. They don't want Iran to have that kind of power. But most people in America are like, this was the whole reason why one of the things that people loved about Trump was no more bullshit wars. Yeah. No more wars. No more unnecessary wars. That was the one thing I couldn't argue with. Yeah. You know, like, OK, well, yeah, we don't need to be in a war.

1:22:49Yeah. And that's what we hoped. You know, but it seems like we're in one. Seems like it. They won't call it that, but that's what it seems like to me. What are they calling it? A conflict? Yeah, a conflict, military conflict, same as Vietnam. Jesus Christ. Yeah. It's like that was a good idea. I looked up something crazy last night. I just, like, I think I asked Grokker one of the things, like, how many— Could you talk just a little louder? Sure. How many years has the United States been in conflicts? I think just, like, in general total. and it said that only from the years from 1891 to 1897 were we not in a conflict.

1:23:25And since World War II, we've been in some sort of something every year. Yeah. Every single year since whatever. Not a thing like Switzerland. We're in all of them. All of them. Woo! And I think it's that a lot of it is just exactly what you were talking about, is the big machine that is defense. It's a huge machine. The budget is insane. The amount of money is insane. And they want to keep making that money. That's why we don't have our high-speed rails. Also, they try to do that in California. It seems like people stole the money. I don't know what the fuck they did there. You know how much they spent on the high-speed rail in California?

1:24:05It's insane. It's like they haven't even laid the tracks yet. They've spent billions. They're way over budget. It's going to take forever. And even then, there's a part that you have to take a bus. You get to it like yeah, who's explaining that to us high speed bus either regular the bus No, it's a real bus regular bus you take the high speed goes to a very short distance You get off you get on a bus and you go from like Bakersfield to LA on a bus They spent billions billions of dollars at the end of it It's so stupid a bus where you're going it's so stupid and then they had Gavin Newsom like posed in front of trains the other day did like a press conference like talking about how they're moving forward with the high-speed rail like bitch that thing ain't ever gonna work it's just a grift they're just stealing money uh like those goddamn condors what about the condors i don't think they're real what do you mean i just don't think they're real i don't think there's a shortage of them i don't i think we just got the right amount of condors and it's nature's way of taking care of itself that's an ugly bird.

1:25:13So do you think that when people were saying that the condors were endangered, do you think that there's a grift attached to that? That's what I think. What would be the grift? The grift is give us money so we can save these condors. And then boom, you got money. And are you saving condors with it? Well, we don't know. Are you a position that condors should be allowed to go extinct? What? Should they be allowed to go extinct? If they want to. Leave it up to the condors. If they don't want to fuck anymore, quit fucking. One of the things that they've said was that a lot of them were dying from lead poisoning, from bullets, from hunters.

1:25:49And so they made the hunters switch over to copper bullets. Do you know that? And that doesn't. California, you have to have copper bullets now. In your shotgun? Yeah, and in rifles, too. Like if you shoot an elk with a rifle in California, you have to have a copper bullet. No shit. Yeah, and I think. Do you use copper bullets anyway? No, I don't. I don't really hunt with a rifle. Oh, you're just a bow guy, right? Yeah, but it's effective. They work. I've killed an elk with a copper bullet before. It does work. I shot an elk in California with a rifle. But it's weird because I don't know if that's really what's killing the condors.

1:26:30I don't know. How many birds die from lead poisoning from bullets? That seems kind of— They fly awfully high. How many hunters are losing animals that there's that many bullets that are just laying around that birds are eating? I don't know. I don't think that's right. That seems like a weird connection. Like, see, if a bird made a habit of eating lead, yeah, that'd be fucking terrible for you. But is that really affecting the population? There's that much lead out there? I wouldn't think so. It sounds kooky. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't either. You know, but this, you know, there's always these weird, like, regulations they put down on things to protect wildlife.

1:27:12It gets super squirrely. Is there any data that shows that animals were dying from lead poisoning for bullets? Why would, I wonder why they would make, because, like, California just passed some crazy law where they made 70 % of all tires illegal. What? I know. 70 % of tires? 70 % of the tires that are being sold in California will now be illegal. Because of what? Some crazy new regulations about what kind of tires you're allowed to have. What they're made out of? How they're made, their construction method, the quality of them, blah, blah, blah, how efficient they are, whatever it is. 70%. What are they going to use for tires?

1:28:00Well, they're just going to be able to sell 30 % of the tires. They're going to have to sell more of those tires. But it's going to probably cost the consumer a lot more money. It's probably going to fuck up the manufacturers, fuck up their businesses. And it's some regulation that's supposed to work with – it's supposed to save gas somehow. The more efficient tires over time will save millions of gallons of gas. Like, stay the fuck out of people's business, you cunts. California has approved a new replacement tire efficiency program, not a ban on tires you already own. Right. But it bans the tires you can sell.

1:28:37This is a weird way to frame it. Well, I mean, your tires are going to wear out and then you've got to replace them with these. It regulates which new replacement tires may be sold in California for pasture vehicles. What changes? California Energy Commission unanimously adopted the rule on August 17th, 2026. Its purpose is to ensure replacement tires are, on average, at least as energy efficient as original equipment tires fitted to new vehicles. The key technical measure is rolling resistance. Lower rolling resistance generally means less energy is needed to keep the tire rolling, which can improve gas mileage or EV range.

1:29:14So it's basically like you can't buy cheap tires. You have to buy the same kind of tires that your car came with. well so they're really kind of putting a ban on shitty tires are there people out there just making shitty tires and they're trying to get rid of them well they're probably making tires that are less expensive and still pretty good like if you're driving a camry do you really need original equipment tires your car sucks your car as oh no i would be the cheapest tire i could put on that right just to get to the next payday exactly so if you're broke and you're different And the difference is like a$79 tire or a$59 tire.

1:29:49And it's basically the same to you. Yeah. Yeah. Put them on the camera. Yeah. And now all of a sudden these tire shops, they can't sell them anymore. What? So what if you have inventory? Do you have to get rid of your inventory? Do I have to dump all my... What if you're a guy, like he works at Tires RS and, you know, you said, you know, it'd be cool if I could ensure that I had every fucking tire for 90 % of the cars right away. I'll stack them. I'll stock them here. And that way I'll get a whole ton of business. We have your tires. Right. And then all of a sudden you got to get rid of all those tires?

1:30:23We ain't got your tire no more. That's crazy. Seems like there'd be a lot of other things to worry about. Well, I have my buddy, Matt, who was at the club last night. His house burnt down in the Pacific Palisades fire. and he's like, the regulations you're going through to try to rebuild your house are fucking insane. He's like, we're not even close to starting construction. And he's got money. And he's like, he could just start construction right away. Are they just going to change the way they build houses there to make them less fireproof? I don't know what they're doing, man. They're just making it, the regulations are insane.

1:30:57It's just like there's so much red tape before you can begin construction again. Whereas in Texas, if your house burnt down, you go, oh, here's the plans for the new house. They go, oh, it looks good. It's up to code. Good luck. Build your fucking house. And you just build your house. That's it. Right. You're on that California Coastal Commission. Bro. Yeah. They are brutal. Those people are brutal. Yeah. I'm glad I'm out of the real estate fucking - The California real estate thing. Yeah. Well - I'm glad I got out when I did. A lot of people are trying to get out now. Yeah. I know a bunch of friends that are trying to get out and they can't sell their house.

1:31:33But I got to tell you, I still love Southern California. I love to go out there and play golf and hang out with my – I still know a lot of people down there. Southern California is beautiful. Oh, it's beautiful. That fucking climate is just untouchable anywhere in the world. Which is amazing that they fucked it up so bad that people want to move from there. Yeah. Because it's awesome. It's not just awesome. It's like the variety of environments you can get to within two hours. It's crazy. Remember you were going to buy that big ranch out in Montecito or Santa Barbara or somewhere. I didn't even know you had money then.

1:32:07Whenever you first told me that, I was like, oh, yeah. All right, you have no idea what it costs to buy a fucking piece of property. And what do you got, a podcast and a couple of fucking shows? First time I did your podcast, I didn't even know what it was. You asked me to do it. I said, I'll come do your podcast. I had no idea. It was fucking millions of people, and it sold books and tickets. And I'm like, damn, Joe, what do you got going on over here? Well, it was, you know, back then it was like kind of under the radar. People didn't know what a podcast was. But still millions of people were listening to them.

1:32:43How many subscribers do you have now? Do you even know? I think on YouTube, what do we have, 20-something? Yeah, we're over 20, I think. 20 million on YouTube and same on Spotify. It's like 20 million subscribers. Fuck. That's a lot of people. Yeah. I was talking to Angela about it this morning. She said, what are you doing? I'm doing Joe's podcast. I'm going to go talk to 20 million people, and I really don't have anything to say. So she goes, Joe will lead you through it. You'll be fine. And I'm like, I know, but it's still 20 million fucking people. You can't think about it. Yeah, I know. When you think about it, it'll fuck your head up.

1:33:26I just started thinking about it. Fuck me up. Don't do it. Let it go. Do I know any of them? I know a lot of them. Listen, they're just folks like you and me. That's why it works. Yeah. You know? We just have lucky lives. We have lucky lives, Joe. Very lucky lives. Lucky lives. That's the best way to put it. I'm going to do, you know, next week I'm celebrating 40 years. In stand-up comedy. That's amazing. September 17th, 1986 is when I first started telling jokes. Are you doing a set that night? I am. I got a show in Dallas that night. Oh, nice. And I'm leaving this weekend for the first—I've been off for four months.

1:34:08So I'm going to Florida, I think Daytona, and I don't know. I always love to do stand-up in Dallas. Dallas is a fun city. Yeah, it is. That's fun. I always loved Dallas. I always loved Houston, and I always loved Dallas. Yeah, I love Houston, too. I just have that one big play out in Katy, that big, gigantic room out there. I don't even go into Houston anymore. I just go to Katy. That's as far as I go. What is the place? Oh, I don't know. It's that 6 ,000-seater. You played it, right? That big old huge thing. They can block parts of it all. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that spot. Big fucking. I think they change the name of it every two years, put a new sponsor on it.

1:34:48It was a Toyota something. Yeah, they always do stuff like that, right? Yeah. That's always weird. It's always a bank or some corporation or something. I could never find a room in that town that I liked. The really nice one was too small, and they had this big concrete vomitorium downtown that used to be a rock house, so you could just wash vomit out of it with a fucking hose. Had a lady fall out of the fucking balcony, 26 feet, landed on another lady, flattened a fucking metal chair. Oh, no. Both of them left, and I thought a light fell from the sky. I didn't know. I was on stage, and people were going, oh, oh, oh, oh, people screaming.

1:35:25I'm like, fuck, fuck. And turned the lights on, and we got fucking ambulance, fucking stretchers coming out. They both left on fucking stretchers. Oh, my God. And a big lady, too, buck 80, fucking flattened another woman and her chair. Oh. Then the next show, the same night, The guy has a heart attack and dies. And I'm like, is this an Indian burial ground or some shit? Jesus Christ. What the fuck? And that was my only play there. And then they opened that big building out in Katy. I'm like, okay, this is mine, boys. That place is haunted. Fuck, yeah. I'm not going back. Have you ever talked to anybody else that had weird things happen in that place?

1:36:08I really hadn't. Two nights or two shows. Two shows in one night. That's nuts. Yeah. And I always thought, man, these balconies are awfully fucking steep. Because you could go up there and sit in it and go, what keeps them from falling over? Nothing. Not a goddamn thing. A woman just lost her balance and went right over the fucking edge. Whenever I see those penthouses in Miami, I think of that. This episode is brought to you by Visible. As fall hits, we enter another season of change. Time to shift gears, drop the dead weight, and upgrade the wardrobe for the drop in temperature. But one thing that doesn't need to change?

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1:37:32I was watching some YouTube video where there is when well I like watching those real estate shows where guys like look at this incredible apartment Right look at the amenity. I don't know why I'm a moron. I like watching. I like real estate shit I like watching condos in places. I'll never buy a condo. So he's at this Crazy condo. That's a penthouse in Miami. It's like 70 million dollars and it's got this glass wall that's like titty high and then down like 70 flights it's just glass wall and then look over the side like i can't swing that i don't like that feeling i don't like it worse if i have my phone in my hand because i can fall off that's fine but i can't let that phone go what if the phone hit somebody in the head and kills them oh it'd be on you wouldn't it it would be on it'd be easy to trace that motherfucker right on back to where it came from it'd be hard it's just like the the balcony I see that in New York City, too.

1:38:28Some of those apartments that have balconies and you just look over the ledge like that's too weird. It's too weird that there's a place in your house where you could definitely die if you take an extra step. Right. I would say don't live in a place where you could definitely die if you take an extra step. Just generally as a rule. That's got to fuck with your anxiety, too. Imagine getting high up there and looking down. I've still got that penthouse, but it's only 22 floors. That's enough. Yeah, that's plenty. I've been to your place. that's enough that's more than enough to die more than enough i live like 600 feet in the sky i know you do dude you live way the fuck up there i have i asked someone who lives up there too i have a couple weird dreams sometimes where i like the building is falling over it's not like a crash or a big event but like it's just weird inception like mind bending just falling to the ground very slowly and weirdly it's fuck because you can feel the the sway i see my toilet water move all the Fuck that dude.

1:39:24Get out now. Don't say I can't say I live downtown also Don't get out now That's fun. Get yourself a place in I have a really cool view You can't like the view is insane. Oh, yeah, your view is sick Yeah, I mean there's pros to it for sure Like whenever I'm in New York City if I know somebody that has an apartment My friend's dad had an apartment in New York City and he had like this corner building, like this building where his apartment had glass on one side, glass on the other side, and it was just all city. And it was in the middle of everything. And I was like, this is the view. Like a lot of people have the view of like the city in the distance, but the city right on top of you.

1:40:03And he was like, you know, like 30th floor or something like that. And there's all these other buildings. It's like, like a sci-fi movie. You know, it's like, it's so exciting. Just the feeling of all these lit windows and all these buildings around you and looking down, and seeing the cars and traffic. All the fucking stories, man, that everybody has. And everybody's watching everybody else. Everybody's got fucking binoculars looking into other people's windows and seeing if people are fucking a bunch of people. I've got them. I've got a big old fucking tripod. I haven't seen titty one with it.

1:40:37I don't know how much I spent on that goddamn thing. I haven't seen one tit. The New York City thing I kind of get, but I don't. I mean, I think I get it. If I was a single guy and I was younger, I kind of get it. But someone like, to me, just being on top of people like that is not good for you. I don't think it's good for you to be smushed in with so many people, like to feel all their vibe around you all the time. Yeah, I love to go there. I used to take my mother. My mother used to love to go to a fucking theater there. So my mother was alive. I would take her to New York. And we went to see a Phantom of the Opera.

1:41:13And like halfway through it, I leaned over to my mother and said, I didn't realize it was an opera. Well, it's in the name. I know, but I still didn't know it was going to be a fucking opera. Oh, you thought it was going to be like the movie? A play of, yeah. I didn't know it was going to be just a straight-up fucking opera. I wouldn't have gone. But we also went to see Book of Mormon with the original cast, and that was so fucking funny, man. Book of Mormon's amazing. God, what a great, those fucking South Park boys. South America. Didn't they change the name of their show to South America for Trump?

1:41:43Yeah, I think it's just for the kids' fucking episode. No, it's the next year. That's what it's going to be called. Yeah. That is the best joke. I laughed out loud. I read it on my phone by myself at the house and laughed out loud. That is fucking rich. Oh, it's so silly. Those guys, you can't fuck with those guys. They're funny and they don't give a shit. And they're super rich. Yeah, super fucking rich. The website has it as South America now.

1:42:13Fucking amazing. I couldn't live without South Park. That means we'll get a new theme song. They're like the only thing that Comedy Central didn't fuck up. They were too big for Comedy Central to fuck up. They had so much power with the success of that show, I guess they don't fuck with us. I remember when the first tape was going around, the VHS tape. Yeah. What would Brian Boitano do? Remember that? What would Brian Boitano do if he were here right now? He'd make a plan and follow through. That's back before the internet. That's what's really crazy. South Park was around before the internet was everywhere.

1:42:49So this was probably like 95, right? Yeah, I think so. When did the first? It debuted on Comedy Central in 99, I think, or 97. But there was a tape that they had made that was going around. Yep. There was the Spirit of Christmas, and there's something. I think that's Jesus for Santa Claus. Yeah, Jesus. Yeah. It was a Christmas card or something. Yeah. What year was that made? because I remember I was dating a gal who worked in an agency and she got a copy of it this says 95 but something just said 92 interesting so it was like the internet really became a thing in people's first release that's weird something was released in 92 and then something in 95 okay the first in 92 short films So I think I guess it would have been Jesus First.

1:43:40The earliest that I could have seen it was 95, I believe. Jesus, the kids play some magic hat on Frosty. I don't really remember that one, but definitely remember seeing the second one, Jesus and Santa. So when was the internet really in everybody's house? I got the internet for the first time in 94. When did you get the internet? 95... I got CompuServe first. like AOL, it was like 95, 96. What was CompuServe? What was the difference between that and... It was like AOL. Okay. Like chat rooms and... Yeah, I had AOL. Yeah. I still don't have the internet. I still don't have it. But I'm going to get it.

1:44:21You don't have internet at your house? This year. This year you're going to get it? I do, I do. I don't use it, but I've got it. It's good to not use it. You're smart about that shit. Oh, I can't. Yeah. I cannot read what people fucking say. and then every once in a while i think i can for a second and i'm like now you just don't put it down because when we were raising money by the way i gotta tell you and i may have already told you but uh you know when we bought the the uh shirp the shirp or whatever the fuck it was fire truck they used that one year later to save lives one year later that same storm system hit that same riverbed and they used that thing for days just and they talked about it on the news and then now they have two of them and they said one of them was given by joe rogan and ron white and i was that made me so proud that we were able to do something that really made a fucking difference you know yeah and uh no that's really awesome that's really awesome we could do that i mean that's a no-brainer that's a real thing that can help people that's so cool those things look crazy too oh they're so fun man i took it down the river and fucking you go up any bank over giant rocks the thing will go in there you can't stop it you just can't stop it fun thing to have the shit go sideways that area gets hit a lot right is that like wimberly is that that area yeah yeah well you know it really it it was that unique storm system but it happened fucking twice there that baby is yeah i don't know if i don't know if i sent this to you i forgot this is the one you guys got money wow that's it that's the one we bought ron look at that that's so dope that's the coolest thing wow that thing's incredible taking all those kids that's so fun yeah they they took that thing all the way across greenland right across the middle of greenland it took weeks and weeks to do it but they took it all the way across just nothing stopping them they put gas in the tires and they can run it for us only got a 55 horsepower motor oh wow and But it's all torque, so it doesn't go very fast, and it needs to get good gas mileage, right, because it needs to get into weird places.

1:46:31But they can put gas in those gigantic tires. That's insane. So you can suck the gas out of the tire while you're driving? Yeah. How do you even get the gas out of the tire? The tire's spinning. I don't know how it works. That doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out how that makes sense. Like, how are you going to get the gas out of the tires? It just, I don't know, they're rigged up, I guess. I don't know. if they've got a line that goes to it. But the line's spinning. If the tire's spinning. But also the tires deflate completely at night. I mean, it airs itself back up. Whoa.

1:47:07Why does it do that? But I asked him a million questions before I bought the fucking thing. Whoa, look at that thing. That's nuts. This is a video explaining the fuel system. I don't know if I guess. Oh, all right. Put the headphones on. Each wheel has its own tank Wait evenly so Sherp doesn't tilt even if one tank is empty the Sherp remains stable Cool fact tires are self-regulating while driving they adjust air pressure via exhaust gas no onboard compressor needed So go ahead shoot one tire Sherp keeps rolling Whoa I guess it did not explain the truth. You asked, what's up with fuel in those Sherp wheels?

1:47:52Let's break it down. If you shoot the tire, will it explode? Will Sherp tilt if just one wheel has fuel? Yes, the fuel is stored in the wheel hubs, separate from the air chamber. There's sealed tanks inside the rim. Each wheel has its own tank, but the system balances weight evenly. There you go. Oh. It's in the center of it. So you have to take them off to refuel. That's what it is. That makes more sense. Okay. That makes more sense. Still, very genius. Fucking cool. Great way to store fuel. Yeah, they're made in the Ukraine, and the guy told me we'd just take them out to the front, let the Russians shoot at it, and bring it back and figure out another way to build it.

1:48:31They just keep on going. They got plenty of room to test it, and that's all mud out there anyway in the Ukraine. So that's where that was all conceived and cool as shit. What a great fucking little vehicle. Nobody needs one, really, unless you live right up there on the river and you want to help in a flood. Or you got a crazy ranch. Crazy ranch. One of those guys. Just change where you're plugging into. Okay. So he can do it right. You don't have to take it off. You can just go right from those tanks. Okay. And that's how you pump fuel into your tank and drive it. That's nuts. Oh, if you have a crazy ranch or if you're on a front line, that's probably a good vehicle to have.

1:49:14That Wimberley area does get hit hard, right? They get those flash floods. Well, they got two of them, you know, and almost exactly a year apart. Both of them right at Fourth of July weekend. But I don't know if it was supposed to be like a thousand-year event and then it happened a year later. And I'm like, well, that wasn't a thousand-year event or a hundred-year flood. It was a one-year flood. But I don't know if it's a constant problem. I mean, yeah, all those river—if it gets a storm stuck over that, everything is granite, right? So it all just fucking runs all over the place and feeds into the Guadalupe, and then it goes nuts.

1:49:53Yeah, those flood zones are nuts when you see, like, what can happen, like how high the water can get to and how quick it can happen. Yeah, we drove it just the other day just to see. You can still see the devastation. But that Camp Mystic is just sitting right there. I didn't see it the first time I went down there. But, boy, it's just right there with Camp Mystic written right in big letters right on it. And I'm like, God damn, how could they not see that that might be a problem? But it never had been. You know, it had to take the worst thing in the worst place. And, you know, no communication out there.

1:50:29And I know they blame a lot of it on somebody, Biden or somebody. But it really was not foreseeable. from my perspective. And I really did look at it. I mean, I did, you know, I gathered as much information as I could. And I'm like, yeah, they couldn't have done anything about that. Just a horrible, horrible fucking thing. But, you know, life goes on. We all learn lessons. And, you know, I don't think that Mystic Camp will ever open again, which is too bad. I think they tried opening up again. Yeah, I think too many people bucked up against it now. It's such a gorgeous place, though, right there on the fucking river.

1:51:14It was there for 100 years or something. That's nuts. Yeah, but... Did you see that crazy avalanche that broke the dam in Nepal? Yeah, I was over there when that happened. Were you really? I mean, not in Nepal, but I was overseas, And it was every news cycle was just nothing about that. That was insane. I wonder if that situation is in other places up there where there are big ice dams or whatever. I mean, I wonder if that's going to be something that happens as those glacier caps start to melt. And they are melting because the rivers were running like crazy when I was in Switzerland. And they were worried about it because normally they would not be getting that much water.

1:52:00But those ice caps, they had a really hot summer, and those ice caps are keeping those rivers running. Imagine your whole city's existence is tied to whether or not you have an avalanche. Yeah. And you're sitting there like, please, please no rock slides. Yeah. I think the rock slide, is that what caused the Nepal thing? There was an avalanche that came down and fucked up the dam? Is that what it was? No, the avalanche came down and blocked, and that's what made the lake. Then the glacier broke off and landed in the lake and busted that down the chute. So there were actually two events. The rock slide made a lake.

1:52:40How long did it take for everything to happen? Well, I mean, once it broke. No, but it was really quick with the rock slide? Between the rock slide and the glacier? I don't know. I don't know what the distance was between the rock slide and the avalanche. Fuck, man. But it was a pretty big lake. and uh that water watching the water wash over those people was insane that was horrible insane and the speed in which it came and the volume oh just knocking things completely down shattered ice and rock flowed down at speeds approaching 150 kilometers an hour kicking off a flood that raised water levels as much as nine meters in 30 minutes 30 minutes oh duck it's just the way it Like this idea people have, like, oh, the water's coming.

1:53:26You'd be able to run like, uh-uh. No. We watched that video. We're like, oh, you don't have a chance. You can't go anywhere. There's nowhere to hide. And the volume. It was a wall, just a giant, like a building-sized wall of water. Of boulders and logs and ice. Cars and everything. And you're just going to get crushed. It's not just water. Yeah. It's everything the water's carrying with it. insanely heavy shit stupid stupid fucking mayhem just total mayhem yeah natural disasters are fucking crazy when you see all the meteor spots on earth all the little all the little fucking holes in the ground that where they you know like this one australia that they didn't discover until fairly recently yes i saw something on that look at that yeah hit by an asteroid right there huh When did that happen?

1:54:21An asteroid the size of a house. Yeah, there's one in Nevada, this crazy one in Nevada, just this fucking gigantic crater. Have you ever seen that one? Yeah, I've seen it. Fuck. Man, how often does that happen? I don't think it's happened in a long time. We hope it's going to be a little while before it happens again. The timescale of Earth is so vast, and the timescale of a person is so small that many, many people can die, live and die, live and die, live and die, and it doesn't happen. and we say, oh, the odds of it happening are very low. But really it's just random. It can happen, and if it does, boom.

1:54:58No more civilization. Well, yeah, but now we could shoot them down, right? No. We can't. No. We can't stop them? I don't think they're ready for that yet. No, I don't think they're ready in any way to stop something big that's headed our way. I don't think so. I think they have some theories. They've never done it. I don't know how much time, effort, and or resources have been put into making sure that if a civilization killer asteroid is coming our way, that we can all join together and launch rockets from China and Russia and everywhere else and knock that thing off course. I don't know. Put Elon on it.

1:55:32Yeah. He'll fix it. He might be able to. He might be one of the only guys that can figure out how to stop something like that. But I don't know if they even know when those things are coming. Some of them are coming from behind the sun, and they don't see them until it's too late. What do you think about limiting how much people can contribute to a political party? I think if anybody – there should be a set amount that anybody can donate, and if they donate one dime more than that, they're hung by the neck until dead. That's what I think. and keep the billionaires out of politics. I think also you could say the same thing about corporations.

1:56:19Absolutely. Also, you could say the same thing about lobbyists. Absolutely. There's a lot of influence on our politics that I think should be eliminated, and money in politics is so ingrained. It's so entangled in politics. The idea of removing it entirely seems ridiculous to people. But if it didn't exist and you said hey, what do you think about like letting? Corporations you know those ones that dump shit into rivers and pollute ecosystems and a lot of funky shit in third world countries They're not supposed to do what do you think about having them? Contribute so much money to our politics that they have incredible influence over regulations to get passed absolutely great idea Yeah, I wish I was one Nobody would say that's a good idea.

1:57:06You would say, no, let's keep money out of it and make sure that all laws that get passed are for the benefit of the society and the people. Absolutely. Not individual corporations or individual people. Yeah, definitely not. And then you go even further than that. You'd say, well, let's make sure that the people that are doing the job are compensated fairly but are not allowed to insider trade. Yeah. Isn't that? We're being grifted, Joe. 100%. We're being grifted. No ifs, ands, or buts about that. I was listening to this story. It was really about Chinese politics, and I don't think communism is the answer to anything.

1:57:46But you don't just – it's not a – the leader is not a popularity contest. That's somebody that's been in this business for 40 years, you know, that knows how to run a country. It's not a just, here's this guy. We'll let this guy do it. Everybody seems to like this guy. you know it's all come from the ground up you know you're and china works pretty well i think you know i don't know i've never been there but uh it makes sense that people in those powerful jobs should have a lot of experience that but they also can't be removed yeah they have total power and if you say anything about the government they will literally put you in a prison somewhere They'll put you in a camp somewhere.

1:58:27They've removed people. They've silenced people. They've even billionaires. They've made them disappear. You can't step out of line. And the government and the businesses work hand in glove. That's it. Period. There's no government, no business that works without the influence of the government over there. So they have giant problems too. But they probably have better leadership in terms of like strengthening their country. But it's terrible for freedom. What you need is like I've heard the argument, you know, I don't agree with it, but what you need is great leaders, right? But what you need is like a benevolent dictator, like someone who really does care.

1:59:04Someone who really is a good person and genuinely doesn't want for anything or need for anything and just wants to try to make their mark and make the world a better place. Yeah. That doesn't exist. It doesn't. And why not? Why not? I don't know. Because most of the people that get the job, that's not who they are. Most of the people are either warmongers or pussyhounds. They're power brokers. They're people who want the feeling of being the top dog. Those are the people that generally get to those positions. Because the struggle is so hard to get there. And then they're going to tear you down and attack you and pull up things from your past.

1:59:40And most people don't want to go through that. And so a lot of people that may be good leaders never want that position. Right, because it's a shit job. And it doesn't even pay well. Yeah. It's like pays a half a million dollars a year. And these guys that are which is good money for a real job. But like if you're being the president of the United States, you're around billionaires and there's all this influence. And then they leave the job and then they get these speaking gigs. So they talk at a conference of bankers for a half a million bucks. You're like, what? Right. What is this? What is this shenanigans?

2:00:10It's the way it is. The job doesn't pay much, but the job pays a lot. you know if you work it that way you know they all leave rich

2:00:21Jimmy Carter was like the only one that like kind of stayed reasonable his whole life. He never became a rich guy after he left office. He basically that's who he was. He stayed the same way. I think Tallarico might be one of those guys. Well, I would hope so. You know, look, it's always good to assume the best about people. He said some things that I think are questionable. yeah but you know god is non-binary he said that one time and then people are like i don't know what non-binary means and that makes me nervous and i get what he's saying there that god is a it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman yeah it's god it's an infinite loving force it's not as simple as i get it too i get what he's saying it's just what you're saying is also like you're you know i get people that want to say they're not a man or a woman because i feel like you You should say whatever you want to say.

2:01:18But to say that that's a thing is a different thing. Like if you're a biologist and you say there's non-binary people, like are there? Like what are we saying? There's XX and XY. And there's people that are intersex. There's people that have this weird thing. Like there's women that are born XY. So they're a man. But they have their testicles inside of their bodies. And they also have androgen-resistant genetics somehow or another. so they never become like masculine and they look really feminine but they're essentially x y chromosome is weirdness that's that's really what like non-binary is that's real non-binary that's like very strange that's like your intersex but some people just don't feel comfortable in their skin and they don't want to be labeled a male or a female they just want to be whatever they are which is fine but when you're talking about biology i think we have to be able to make a distinction.

2:02:12We have to know like what we're actually talking about, you know, facts over feelings. Feelings are fine. Like you should be able to say what we call yourself, Carol or Bob or whatever you want to do, man. You want to be a man now? Okay. You're a man. I'm cool with that. But let's not, you know, let's not let the nonsense invade the, the actual analysis of what we're talking about. And some of them we're talking about is just dysphoria. It's gender dysphoria. That's what it's always been described as, which is, you know, there's a lot of things that people have wrong with them. It doesn't mean that, you know, they're bad people.

2:02:49It doesn't mean that, you know, should alienate them and they shouldn't have rights. And that's no one's saying that you're saying like, no, you can't compete in the women's division because you're not, you're a biological man. And I know you wish you were a woman and I know you want to be identified as a woman. That's great. But when it comes to sports, right. When it comes to tennis, Yeah, stop. Stop. Stop the nonsense. This is, you know, it's just there's a lot of like weird shit that goes along with compassion, you know, where people don't want to look at reality because reality itself is not compassionate.

2:03:21The reality itself is like, you know, you are discriminatory or transphobic. You're this, you're that. Like, OK, I'm not. That's not what we're saying. We're saying like you've got to be reasonable and reasonable is you've got to know what's the difference between a sex offender who decides he's a woman and wants to hang around with women versus a guy who has gender dysphoria. Sure. Dysphoria and wants to be recognized. Absolutely. Two different things. And if I get it wrong, forgive me. You know, if I don't call you the right name or whatever, I suggest you try to grow a pretty thick skin because people are always going to be mean.

2:03:57You know, so just let it run down your back. I mean, I've got thick skin, you know. It's a complicated conversation because it's not one that we all thought we were going to have 20 years ago. That was going to be the forefront of society and discussion about gender. It's odd. It's very odd. I just I don't like it being promoted for young people because young people are getting surgeries and taking chemical castration drugs and doing which is essentially what hormone blockers are. The same category of drugs they use for sex offenders when they chemically castrate them. It's fucked to do that to kids is fucked.

2:04:32Do that to kids that don't know what they're doing yet. They're confused. And there's a lot of detransitioners, man. There's a lot of people that went through that and really wish they didn't. And they get ostracized from the trans community. They get ostracized from progressive communities. They get told they were never trans to begin with. Like, what does that mean? Like, what are you saying? This is not like you're saying someone's not black or not white. Like, just traits that are just, they are what they are. You have, you know, you have blonde hair, you have black hair. This is like what you're born with.

2:05:03To say you are not really transgender, it's like, what the fuck are you saying? You're making someone do something to their body. you're doing something to them through surgery or through chemicals like this is to say that you're not really one of you're not really transgender you just did it like what i don't know how about recognize the fact that people are easily influenced and sometimes people make mistakes and sometimes people get convinced or convince themselves that they're they should do something because it's it's fashionable in society and it's it's culturally relevant currently Yeah, you know, I'm not for any of that.

2:05:43But, I mean, I think try to be fair, try to be nice, and, you know, let them do whatever the fuck they want to do. But even Tallarico is against having any kind of surgery before 18, and same as Paxson, but Paxson didn't cost this—Tallarico didn't cost this state$6 million in fines and lawsuits. and that happened to Paxson. How did he cost? What did he do? Paxson? Yeah. What did he do that cost$6 million? Well, back in 2020, eight of his assistants turned him into the FBI for fraud. One of them was a 50-year Texas Ranger. He fired that guy, five decades of service in the Texas Rangers. Well, that guy sued him, and they fired four of the eight people that turned him in.

2:06:37He did and fired him. And then he realized that he was going to get fucking sued over it. And he came up with a solution. He was going to give them three million dollars to settle this case. And then the House said, no, it's not coming from us. And then they sued one six million dollars. And guess who paid that six million dollars? You and me paid the six million dollars for his bribery and how he ever got out of this stuff. He was impeached by the House. His own party impeached him. 121 votes to 22. And then the Senate put him back in because they didn't want to lose the seat. But he's a criminal, just a piece of shit.

2:07:18I don't know enough about him. But I do know that they're surprised that Tallarico is ahead of him in the polls. I'm not. I think that people are sick of what's going on right now in Texas. They've been in control for 30 years. What have they given us? Let somebody else fucking drive. You know, I jacked with my marijuana and I'm ready to get them out. The marijuana thing is just so stupid because if you look at the national polls, it's something in the range of 70 percent of people think it should be legal. And we should decide, right? We, the people, should decide. Yeah. And if you find out that these people who are making these decisions have been influenced by the alcohol lobby or by anybody else.

2:08:00Hung by the neck until dead. That's what I'm saying. Let's get some severe penalties in there. It's corruption. It's bad for us. And it's also bad for the look of Texas. Texas is supposed to be a place that's about freedom. And it is in a lot of ways. But in that way, it's definitely not. No. And it's definitely stupid. Again, we looked at what California's making, just the tax revenue. $7 billion. B. With a B. With a B. Yeah. And is there some enormous problems that have taken place? No. No. No. You know, the problem is alcohol sales are down. That's the problem. That's what got it all stirred up.

2:08:39Alcohol is tanking it right now. I mean, wine, liquor, tequila, all of it is 20 % or more off. What do you think is the cause of that? Well, it's that younger generation just doesn't feel the need to go get hammered every night. They don't have the wallet for it. The kids are broke. You know, they got$80 ,000 worth of fucking school debt that your kids don't have and my kid doesn't have. And, you know, there's just no money for it. And then they go to these clubs and they like to smoke some weed and go in there and not drink. And I, you know. Also, they don't like hangovers. Yeah. And I'm right there with them.

2:09:16I mean, I think it's a better way. I mean, I can't go through this life without some kind of buzz. I need it. But liquor was the wrong one for me. And I just found better ways. You know, there's more than one way to skin a goddamn cat. And I know. And the only reason why that stuff is illegal is corruption. It's stupid. All of it, whether it's marijuana or mushrooms or all these things. You should we should understand them, study them. And they benefit a lot of people and they should be legal, period. Everybody thinks not either hasn't done them or doesn't know what they're talking about or is coming from a very authoritarian perspective where you think the government should be allowed to control people's behavior.

2:09:55and I think that's fucking ridiculous. I think it's fucking ridiculous too, Joe. Fucking ridiculous. Glad we're on the right page. Huh? I said, I'm glad we're on the right page. Yeah, we're on the same page, man. We're on the same page. You think cameras have anything to do with it? What do you mean? People recording people doing dumb shit and not being free to be... Oh, that stops people from getting drunk? Maybe. Nah. Never stop me. I'm talking about the kids. You were talking about kids. I was thinking about kids. Do you think so? Is that what you think? I sort of was asking. Maybe. Could be.

2:10:25Maybe. They're afraid to be caught doing dumb shit. Well, people are very aware of being caught and getting embarrassed because so many people have gone viral these days. Maybe. Maybe it's a factor. It's possible. What did they do to Jelly Roll, man? Poor Jelly Roll. All he did was say the president was a fat pig like me. That's what he said. Yeah. And then he said, if you're a Trump supporter, don't listen to my music. Well, that was after they canceled him anyway. and so he i i mean i'm not really i like jelly roll fine i don't know him that well but you know but i wasn't a big listener anyway but i've met him a couple times seemed like a nice guy now but boy they went nuts yeah i mean nuts get him out of here never listen to his music what did he say i didn't see what he said i heard about it um but jelly roll's a sweetheart yeah i wouldn't have advised him to say that i wouldn't have either i've always been careful with that kind of stuff you know yeah that don't don't be stupid ron don't be stupid well he was on the jimmy kimmel show right so right he was doing a monologue i don't even know if he wrote it you know it could have been the writers from the jimmy kimmel show who are obviously very anti-trump like sure at least kimmel is very openly anti-trump so you know they could have just tricked him into doing it and trick him into throwing his career right out the goddamn window.

2:11:48Look, he's super talented. He'll be fine. It'll be one of those things where it's a bump in the road, and he'll have to get over it. I hope so. He seemed like such a nice guy when I met him. He is. He's a sweetheart. He'd been a Ron White fan since he was a kid, you know, and I've got to have a warm place in my heart for those kind of folks. Well, he's also going through a lot of different changes in his life, right? So here he loses 300 pounds, which is a giant change, gets hooked on fitness. this is giant change changes his whole life changes his body did the ways to well thing just like you and then he gets divorced so that's another big change so he's got these two giant changes and then he's on the kimmel show and he's saying stupid things yeah well he's saying jokes i shouldn't even say he's saying stupid things he's saying i'm not even saying it's stupid i'm just saying like if you want people to like you like going after trump and that from especially from his perspective, like as a country guy, like that's a giant chunk of your crowd.

2:12:46Absolutely. But if you feel like that's what he was doing stand up, you know, at the club. Yeah. He did it a bunch of times and he was practicing. So I think that's also one of the reasons why he wanted to host the Kimmel show. I think that might've been rushed a little bit. Stand up's really, really hard. It's a long road. It is. He got laughs. He had some good lines, but it was, you know, it was what you expect from someone who's beginning their standup journey. But I think, you know, if you know the guy, when I do, he's the best. He's a sweetheart. I mean, at least my experiences with him have all been awesome and with other people that I know.

2:13:25Yeah. He's a very jolly, friendly, lovable guy. But like all people, he is human and humans do things that other humans don't like. And then you suffer the consequences and, you know. Right. I think he'll be fine. He'll be fine because he's super talented. I mean, he's a fucking brilliant singer and brilliant songwriter. We'll see. I think he'll be fine. I think, you know, if he could do it all again, I bet he probably wouldn't. That's part of life. You can't back up. No. He'd do some things you wish you hadn't, and you'd go, oh, shit. You know, but talented people. Like, look at Kanye West. He had a fucking diamond swastika around his neck a year later.

2:14:06He's selling out giant arenas. Right. I can't explain. I can't explain Kanye. People bounce back. Well, he's super talented. I mean, that's really the thing. Yeah. Unbelievably prolific and super talented and driven like a motherfucker. And full-blown nuts. Yep. Just like us, you know. Just in a different way. I mean, everybody's fucking crazy. That's the thing. People are attacking Jelly Roll. One of the reasons people like to do that is they're terrified of them ever doing something that stupid. And so then when someone does do something that they think is stupid, they just can't wait to attack.

2:14:46Boy. Especially someone that's like on top of the world with a jelly roll. I mean, it's relentless. I know. Every, I mean, I've watched TikTok, you know, and I've just seen those feeds coming through. It's jelly roll. Oh, boy, they're losing their minds over it. I'm like, what? Trump invented name calling. He's the one that brought it back from the death with Ellen Degenerate. That was the first one he did, I think. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, name calling. That's what we're back to. I don't even know what the joke was. Was he saying Trump's a fat fuck just like me? What was he saying? That's what he said.

2:15:19I mean, I don't know what the whole bit was. That's all it was? But he said Trump's like me. He's a fat pig. That's it? That's it. And that's what they got mad at? That's what they got mad at. He called the president a fat pig. That's interesting. He was kind of fat. Well, he's definitely not thin. Yeah. Not from where I'm sitting. I mean, was the joke like he could lose weight because I lost weight? I mean, what was he saying? I just think he was saying he was saying. Should we play it? Yeah. All right, let's play it. Oh, it says here. Okay. Fat pig comment. Like, oh, jelly roll joke that his own 300 pound weight loss meant he essentially lost an entire Donald Trump.

2:16:03The fat pig comment. He quoted past remarks Trump made about others and said, well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important. Huh. That's not bad. Right. That's not bad at all. From one fat pig to another. Yeah. Saying that he lost an entire Donald Trump. OK, he did. Yeah. Like, literally, he lost 300 pounds. that's more than a Trump probably. And then he said, from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important. Is that terrible? Yeah. No. That's not terrible at all. And that's it. So maybe the real problem was him...

2:16:40Being on Kimmel to begin with. Yeah. Would be a mark against him to... And then maybe saying, if you're a Trump supporter, don't listen to my music. But that was the next day or whatever. Yeah, you can play it. Sadly, those are the only laps Trump's been doing lately. According to the Washington Post, a lot of doctors are worried about the president's weight. After his last physical, we found out Trump gained 14 pounds, which means he's now tipping the scales at almost 240. It's crazy. Think about this, y 'all. In the last few years, I've lost 300 pounds.

2:17:26That means I've lost an entire Donald Trump. And let's be honest, based on his approval ratings, it seems like most of the country wants to do the same thing.

2:17:41Now listen, we should take it easy, y 'all. We shouldn't be making fun of the president for his weight because we know that he would never do that to other people. I don't speak badly about somebody's physical disability, but he's got the biggest stomach I have ever seen. He's actually fatter than ever. The mayor is incompetent and the governor is a big fat slob. I told you, I have a friend of mine, he's fat as a, you demonstrate a guy like this. He said, Chris Christie's a fat pig. You cannot do that. Chris Christie is not a fat pig. He is not a fat pig. He's not a fat pig. Don't call him a fat pig.

2:18:22Sir, in the back, don't call him a fat pig, okay? I don't talk about people being fat. I refuse to talk about the fact that he's a fat slob. I don't mention it. Well, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle fat.

2:18:43Well, Mr. President, from one fat pig to another, take it from me that physical fitness is very important. And trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.

2:18:59I just speak from a little bit of experience here, y 'all. The first time I've seen mine recently, I was surprised at how cute it was. It's rudimentary stand-up, right? He's learning how to do stand-up, so it's almost like he's a politician talking. I gotta tell you, I think he did a pretty good job with that. He did a very good job. But, I mean, you know what I'm saying? It's like it's monologue type stand up. And clearly someone wrote it and he's reading it off a teleprompter. Yeah, probably. But anyway, it wasn't, you know, it certainly wasn't bad. I mean, it was just jokes. It's it's just jokes.

2:19:32If someone got so upset, they never want to listen to Jelly Roll's music again after that. They're crying. They're crying. They're in tears. I see it. I see it. Yeah, it wasn't the funniest stuff. But I mean, he didn't. That's someone they wrote that shit for him. I guarantee you. I'm sure they did. 100%. You could tell he was reading it. It wasn't like he was just speaking off the cuff. He was 100 % reading a thing. He looked good, though. He looked great. Didn't he? You were kind of handsome. He's very handsome now. He lost a lot of weight, man. I mean, the guy, when he came to do the podcast, he ran six and a half miles on the treadmill while we were hanging out.

2:20:06No shit. Oh, yeah. And talking while he's running. So I'm working out. I'm in front of him working out, lifting weights, and he's running on this treadmill the entire time and talking while he's running. Wow. Yeah, he's fit now. It's kind of crazy. We went to see him. He performed at Matthew McConaughey has that Mac and Jack, that big thing that they do, where it's a charity benefit and auction, and he has people perform. So Jelly Roll performed. He was a performer that night. And then as he's coming off the stage, there's this stairway with a railing on it. And me and Tony are over to the left side.

2:20:44We're behind the stage. he grabs a hold of the railing and jumps over it and i go do you know what you just did i go you used to be 500 pounds and now you just grabbed a railing and jumped over it like a cat like that's crazy wow so like a different you're a different human being that's kind of inspiring it's very inspiring yeah i wish he didn't say that stuff but i mean it's just sometimes the juice is not worth the squeeze yeah you're right about that you know you got to figure out the juice and the squeeze baby you gotta figure it out but you know if you know jelly roll he's a great guy it's just that kind of monologue stand-up stuff it is funny seeing all the different times trump called people fat though that is fucking hilarious yeah but you know trump supporters are fucking nuts man they're rabid he represents something other than just a person to them oh it's christ Yeah.

2:21:38Well, he represents something, a leader that they wish they had, you know. Yeah. Which is a real problem in our society in general with leaders. We look to them as if they're something different than every other person that's ever been a leader before. Like, this is the one. This is the one that's going to save us. Right. And you know what? Some people are hopeless. And anybody that says, well, I'll give you hope, then, you know, what are you going to do? you know if you gotta i've told people i've said this more than once that in back when that if you really want to improve your lot in life and you don't really have anything and you don't really have an education you should be bernie fucking sanders you know who's your guy uh because he wants to get the minimum wage up you think somebody's going to come in and hand you a bunch of loot that's never going to happen maybe you can make a couple more bucks an hour go with that you know that's not is it bernie sanders yeah yeah the guy from vermont yeah yeah okay so you know he was really trying to help and but they're like that's not enough we don't well they didn't want him the democratic establishment did not want that guy that was the first time that i ever got attacked when i had bernie on and uh someone was on the podcast they said who are you gonna vote for i said oh it was jimmy door and i said if i was gonna vote for anybody i'd probably vote for Bernie.

2:22:59He's the one that makes the most sense. Like he's the only guy that's like, he's anti-war. He wants to take a small amount of money from stock market speculation and use that to fund a bunch of these social programs. I'm like, let's see. This is a long time ago. I don't necessarily think that I would feel the same way anymore about him. One of the reasons being is that he kind of gave in to the Democratic establishment. He let them run him over during that whole thing with Hillary where they rigged the primary. He let them get away with stuff where I think he should have put his foot down and said, this is fucked up.

2:23:35You guys are rigging the party. They haven't had a legit primary in, like, what, more than a decade? That's not good. That's not good if you want to be the party that's the solution, the change. Where's your primaries? What are you doing? Like, when they installed Kamala, they just shoved her in there. All of a sudden, this is our representative now. Biden's out. And we were like, wait, what? There's no primary? Like, what about the rules? What about the way we've always done this? Well, Biden was taking a nap. He had to do something. It's amazing he's still alive. I thought he was going to die right after he got out of office.

2:24:12I thought he was probably barely hanging on, which is also one of my big fears about him doing another four years. Like, there's no way, no way he's going to make it out of four years. I don't know. It's all going to be over soon. What do you mean? AI or the apocalypse? The apocalypse. Do you hear that J.D. Vance was doing a speech I was listening to on Tim Dillon's show? Yeah. I almost brought this up a second ago because I just saw it on Twitter again. He was talking about end times. What was his exact quote? Let's play it. Let's play it. He's like, first of all, who are you talking to that you feel like this is the thing to say?

2:24:54This is talking about like whether or not we're entering end times J.D. Vance was yes He's on 10 billion show no no no no no no he was just giving the speech Tim Dillon was making fun of it It's fucking hilarious. What's he saying? friends and their family I so I tend to think like the while I wouldn't be shocked if we are living in the end times, what I'm trying to focus on is doing as much of God's work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, okay. And if that leads to, you know, us building a better world that thrives and survives for a very long time after I'm gone, that's great too.

2:25:41I just think you've got to kind of try to have it. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Here's the other part. It sounds like he's saying that the second hope is it leads to a great world. Yeah. But if it leads to the end times. That's okay, too. You know, us building a better world that thrives. And if that leads to the end times, okay. Not okay. Yeah. What are you saying? If that leads to the end times, okay. Not great. That's not okay. And if it doesn't lead to the end times and everybody lives a great life, well, that's great, too. That'd be just fine. That doesn't seem like the optimum perspective.

2:26:18What is he even saying? I feel like you should reverse those two. And the goal is not end times. The goal is make a beautiful world. For all of us. Where people thrive and everybody's happy. And leave the end out. That's the problem with religious people that are convinced that there's a set of events that have been predicted. You think he's a religious person? You think he's a fake religious person? Vance? Yeah. Did he Vance? He's a Catholic. He's very religious. He wrote a book about, what was his book? Communion? That's what that one was called. He's pitching. Yeah. Yeah, he wrote a book about his, you know, spiritual journey.

2:26:57Oh, I didn't. I saw the other movie. Yeah, I mean, that's why Communion, the other one. I know I brought that up when he was on the podcast. Like, you know, you wrote a book about a guy who got abducted by aliens. That's the same book title. That's Whitley Stryber's book, Communion. Oh, shit. But there's a famous movie with who's in communion?

2:27:20God damn it. I want to say something, but I don't think it's right. 1989? Christopher Walken. Christopher Walken. That's right. I just knew about Hillbilly Elegy or whatever the fuck that was. Yeah, that was his first book. And his new one is Communion. But there was a book called Communion by this guy, Whitley Stryber, who had been abducted by aliens, allegedly. You know about the name changes? What is that? He's changed his name like four times. What? Yeah. Wait a minute. Okay. James Donald Bowman, his birth name, James David Hamill, the name given to him after his mother married her third husband.

2:27:59Well, that's understandable. Yeah, but he changed it when he was in high school, I think, for that one. But he adopted him. He went by J.D. Hamill through high school. That makes sense. James David Vance, the name he adopted in 2013 before graduating from law school, changing his name to Vance to honor his maternal grandparents, Mama and Papa, who helped raise him. Well, there's a logic behind it, at least. It's not like he's like ducking taxes or something. Right. I'm not saying that's why he did it, but how many people do you know have changed their name like that? Not many. At least more than once.

2:28:35That is odd. He did it three times. Four. I wonder if you're trying to reinvent yourself. Why do you do that? I don't know. I don't like the end times talk. I don't trust him. I don't like that talk. That kind of talk is crazy talk. Yeah. Like, if it's end times, okay? No. Jamie said it best. Not good. Not okay. That's not okay. That's not okay. No, that spooks me out. I understand why people are attracted by religion. I understand it from like giving you a moral framework and an ethical framework. I get that. But when people think that they absolutely know what the interpretations are and absolutely know what's going to happen.

2:29:17And I'll absolutely quit listening to them talk if that's what they come at me with. I know and you don't know. Well, my uncle was a Baptist preacher, so I grew up in the church and was really involved, really involved with every single aspect of the Baptist church. And I believed that my uncle was the, who you met, he smelled like piss and he was having problems. But he was my hero my whole life because I thought he was the only one that was telling me the truth. And he ends up hitting on my girlfriend. he was an animal he was he asked her to marry him he asked genie to marry him and that's hilarious she i came home they had watched a show and then they came back and i had another show to do i came back nobody was in the living room i was staying at the condo and and i said how'd it go and he goes he asked me to marry him and i'm like was he was joking right and i said i'm in love with your nephew and he goes did he ask you to marry him like fuck dude really and i mean i never said Wasn't he really old then?

2:30:24Yeah, well, yeah, he's 90. 90, yeah. I think he's kind of not really all there. No, no, no, he's not all there anymore. But still, I grew up in the church, and I understand the church. Right. And I understand what's good about it. And, yes, they were teaching a good way of life, you know, to be honest and, you know, all those things that you should be. And you should follow those Ten Commandments anyway. You know, they're all good except for one of them or something. I don't want him I don't like, but I can't remember which one it was. But anyway, I came away from the whole thing with that. I'm like, how do I know?

2:31:05You know, my family, we never talked about politics that much. We were in a little town up in the panhandle, and they were all Baptist or Church of Christ, and even they didn't agree with each other. And the Church of Christ is kind of a Texas religion. It started here. Oh, really? Yeah. and so very small but my grandmother was that and so you know she'd go around picking up all the little ladies and go to this little church and she spoke in tongues every sunday morning she would stand up and and i was sitting right next to her and it embarrassed me every single time and then the preacher's wife would stand up and interpret because she had the gift of interpretation that's one of the gifts and it was always a fundraising thing you know it was always the lord telling you to go deep into your wallet and oh how convenient yeah yeah did you ever see um the fat what is the gemstones fabulous gemstones what is it called righteous righteous gemstones funniest thing i've ever seen in my life damn that's a good show it is so rich man i just can't wait for another fucking season of that that show is fucking phenomenal and that's that that's I mean, that's where Kinnison started.

2:32:16You know, Kinnison was one of those revival preachers. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? That's where I learned this art form was watching my uncle preach. He was very funny and always getting a laugh on stage, saving souls every fucking week. And I thought it was the greatest thing ever. But he was a great orator, you know, really, really good. And I know that's where I learned. I want to be that guy on stage, but I just don't want to have a religious message. You know, I want to be able to tell some dick jokes. But that's where I got it, I know. And that's where Chris Rock got his, too, you know.

2:32:51His dad, her uncle or something, was a preacher, right? Pretty common. A really good preacher is a really good orator. Yeah. There's people that are good at it. Larry the Cable Guy, his dad was a preacher. Makes sense. And a pig farmer. Wow. That adds up to Larry the Cable Guy. That makes sense. it's just it's a real problem when people pretend they have the answers because people want to believe that they do they really want to believe this person knows when someone tells you you have to do this or you're going to burn in hell forever are you fucking sure? really? how do you know? based on what?

2:33:32I have no idea but I'm glad it's there and I'm glad people are tied to it and I don't care about it. I don't bust on anybody's faith because I don't believe that. It doesn't mean I'm right. I've been wrong about so many fucking things. I might be wrong about all of it. The problem was when someone believes something but then wants to force other people to believe it too. And that's an age-old problem with human beings. That's a real issue. All right, Ron. Let's get the fuck out of here. We've got a show to do tonight. Let's go. Let's go do it, man. I'll be there at 7 o 'clock or whatever. Yes, sir.

2:34:11And then I'm closing Thursday night. Beautiful. Both shows to get ready for these shows in Florida. Nice. Can you look up my dates in Florida real quick? He's already got it. Tatersalad.com. Yeah, there we go. Dayton Beach, Jacksonville on the 11th, Dayton Beach on the 12th, Sarasota on the 13th, all throughout Texas. Yeah, Grand Prairie, that's the anniversary date right there. September 18th. Yeah. 40 years. That's going to be fun. It's going to be a lot of fun. Tatersalad.com. Yeah, Tatersalad. How's that Cosmopolitan? I heard the Cosmopolitan face in Vegas. It's very nice. Fuck, yeah. Great.

2:34:512 ,300 seater. Nice. So 1 ,000 seats bigger than the one I played at the Mirage. Nice. And I stay in the mansion over at the MGM Grand. Man, that's pretty sweet living over there. Look at you, playing golf. Yeah, playing golf. Let's wrap this bitch up. All right, bud. Appreciate you, brother. I love you, man. Thanks for having me on. Anytime. Bye, bud.