Fight Companion - September 6, 2025

24:08Oh no. And then I'm watching. Then I'll look at it again. And then you look at yourself in the mirror. Think about it. In boxing, so you got Canelo Crawford, you got Mike Tyson Floyd -Mayweather. That's happening and they have Jake Paul Javante Davis. That's the state of boxing. Yeah, that's crazy That's sinking that's all Javante Davis is so crazy one 35 versus 200 that is so nice They all they're all expedition none of them are yeah their exhibitions What does that mean just means that you don't really nobody wins? They're not right. It's kind of I mean it's weird I don't like Jake to sue me.

24:44They're not it's not like a real scrap It's not real really so they're not trying to knock each other out Mike Tyson and Floyd made with it don't like each other. They have not liked each other forever Tyson Yes, but they like Mike Tyson and Mayweather don't like each other Huh if there's a fight that might be real like where Mike Tyson might say I'm gonna knock this motherfucker out Or I'm gonna try to knock this mother. It would be fluid They wouldn't yeah because if you look at like the Jake Paul fight no disrespect and if you look at the Roy Jones fight No disrespect. Yeah, they look like they're sparring.

25:13Yeah, right. It looked like there was agreements made Yeah, I do not know if Mike would honor any of those agreements if there was a moment It's been for years. Yeah, if there was a moment to really could he hit him? I mean that little motherfucker can move still at 50 years old. He's so slick. Yeah, he's still in shape He's still fit both oldest fuck old as well. But this is the boxing all those mate weather 67 did Bernard Hopkins Bernard Hopkins is still at the best in the world at 50. Yep. I mean that's a crap That doesn't mean shit though, with this Because he was at their fighting contender can talk you talk Gomez on the ground You talk about two retired guys.

25:54Yeah, yeah, I find the extra money grabs. It's so weird. Yeah, it is weird It's money grabs. I don't like it, but it's fun. You know something. I'll tune all hate on it But tune in yeah, I'll tune it. It's you know, it's but it's not really fighting So Jay Paul is not gonna actually be trying to knock out your body It really says exhibitions huh if I had a guess yeah event itself be a world class venue be presented a global audience with new in -ring technology elements that will reshape how boxing is presented and scoring is achieved for years come what does that that shit has Abu Dhabi written all over what does that mean this is Tyson versus Mayweather what does that mean where are they doing are they doing that in Saudi Arabia but of course but of course because they have all the money my friend and they just go we want to see I'd always like to see Floyd Tyson who wants to fight an alligator It is so much money they got that oil money dog this they I'm really curious about Crawford canela.

26:50Yeah, they're actually kind of the same size same height They're not the same size different. They're not the same size. They look they look pretty much the same size But I know once it made a career fight that much heavier right it would be like a 135 or jump up to one seven Yeah, right the same size Yeah, but one guy made a career But they won 70 right now. They made a fight right now. They kind of are the same size. Well right now Yeah, but once a naturally gifted bigger guy and is competed at world -class level at that heavy weight You can't say they're the same size Yeah, you're not gonna be as fast right?

27:22He had a lot of weight No, and one made a career like that weight Adaptations the other one's just doing it for a money grant. It was a fight in two years Well, he's doing it for legacy and he is he is like like he prepared for this. It's not like he just went, had to fight it 147 and then jumped up to 68 three months later. Like he really, that's a big jump though, isn't it? He did a lot of training, put weight on, like real weight. Yeah, we'll see. I'm interested in that just because I think Crawford's that good. I just don't think, I think this is a problem with boxing. They build these things up like, you know, Jake and Tyson and people things to me, this great product or Crawford and Canelo.

27:59And it's not, there's not much action. Bro, I'll tell you who's the biggest. Fuck a deal Moses Moses, I Thomas do you know who that motherfucker is the giant 20 year old head oh? Yes, yes, yes, you see what he did to Dillon why yes? Yes, he's a problem. Yeah, that guy's only 20 20 years old Yeah, he's just slightly older than Tyson was when he won the title so he can't be the youngest guy to ever win the title This motherfucker is so fast. He moves like a middleweight Now here's I talk watch this guy. That's that Samoan Samoan or whatever it is bro look at the fucking skill It's the skill the movement back.

28:39Don't know joke either don't let's know joke. Look at this shit Name right it's dillian, but it's alright Bro he tuned this guy up one round man. I mean again white is past this problem He's also got beat up white's gotten yeah short Tyson Fury beat him up a lot of guys This is the test you want for this year's contender. It's the way he did it. You did it like I'm a world champion. Mop the floor with the ante. Tianté Wilder starts him as well. Oh, I don't know if they fought. I don't know if Tianté fought Dillon. They're trying to do Tianté Wilder Francis. They're talking shit to each other. Take my fucking money.

29:13Yeah, take my money. That's not an exhibition. The MMA boxing, take my, that, take my fucking money. But Crawford, somebody's gonna know it's not an exhibition bubble. Who do you think gets knocked out in that one? At this stage of the game? I don't think I know you know what the problem with Wilder is he did all that I was getting too friendly Whenever someone does too much I was like Any I was if you want to be a fighter He did the interview one time he's like I just I lost it. Yeah, I lost So a lot of guys really yeah, they come back and they just like too sweet So my buddy just came back from doing a 10 day I was groceries made billions of dollars and he goes I go how was he was intense and I go oh that's cool and he goes I just have a deeper appreciation for my friends fuck you I can say that it was great he goes I thought about you Oh boy this is getting awkward.

30:05It was a hard thing, but did you say hey give me some money? Yeah I know I'm on it still I'm on it I'm on it Pay my mortgage Pay my mortgage about how long money Yeah this is still like cut me a check You still really long time You still really good at time you did I was go I miss my friends I don't want to get in that What did you do? No no hey did you say it got real bad He did the God dose or whatever he didn't mean to do that. I did three grams and I was in mother earths For China and then I did four more grams So I was invited to take more medicine and the sun sucked me into his mouth and spit me out into one of the upper rings of hell No, no, but tell him what you're doing real life in hell.

30:40Don't tell him what the words are saying So I'm gonna just say this I I was I Apparently I was because I thought I was in hell apparently for four hours I was asking for a manager. I was asking to speak to a manager Hell yeah, cuz I needed to get out of there cuz I was I need speak Manor being hell I don't believe I'm a good person. I just tripped into a portal. I need to get home With the hell -roading the real that he was curled in a bar I don't want to get me out of here. I refuse My buddy goes you were in you were in the field position farting so loud Yeah, screaming and screaming It's worth the weekend screaming a lot of different words that you're not allowed to say You know what he told me I was like what That's what I don't remember anything.

31:23I don't remember anything. I think you try to get me to do it Which the fuck out of you know slightly less? Yeah, yeah, you know what I learned don't do mushrooms anymore Well, just don't do seven grams when you're troubled you may need a whole chocolate bar on this podcast You see that If you look at me in the video, I'm like this it had to be done. Yeah, but that's like three Three is a reasonable. You get to around five and things get very straight. Then you start meeting aliens. Joe, now that you stop alcohol, are you smoking more weed? Allegedly. I'll choose your outgones. Allegedly. I thought you stopped smoking weed.

32:01I don't know why. What's up? Maybe. They got to make that shit legal. I got to talk to the big guy. Donald, you want to make some friends? Taxo. This is how you go. This is how it goes. You want to make some real friends? You won't like they won't know what to do dude. He's he what he's doing right now This Chicago. This is one of the funniest things ever They are now saying they're going to look into taking gun rights away from transgender people So what happens now is liberals have to defend gun rights. I know This is like the ultimate trap. It's like do they fall into the guy sweating with the two buttons

32:43First of all, he says things that he doesn't mean. Like, it's wild when a president says, we're looking into taking away Rosie O'Donnell's citizenship. Yeah, I can't do that. I can't take it. I saw him being the yesterday and was like, imagine Rosie O'Donnell moves to Ireland to escape Trump and then McGregor just becomes the lead. He died well, Mike. He really might win. I saw some video he posted like, campaigning for it's at like 50 million views. Yeah, apparently he has like 60 % in the poll. Wait, who's this? Conor McGregor being the president of Ireland. Wow. You know that my fucking spacey Arnold Schwarzenegger, but for us, for the UFC.

33:18Uh, uh, me, my man. You know, movie star, two time world champion. Now if he becomes president, actor, that's not fair. Actor, that's what I'm saying. Well, there's a real movement, you know, in England and in Ireland, because of this sort of like unchecked immigration. Well dude, Elon's going off to fucking chain too. Yeah. Elon's making posts like you guys got to fight back. Oh, yeah, man because people are getting arrested in England Just for posting stuff on social media about it. Bro, they're put there are arresting thousands of people in England Do they say for a hundred a day who is on my podcast?

33:53Yeah, he left my podcast went back to England and they arrested What? Wow, I just had Tommy Robinson behind you know Tommy Robinson is so he got arrested for the same thing for for a documentary And I just had a mind got arrested for a dog. Yeah, dude. He did 18 months What he just got out he just did the positive documentary about it was basically about his hometown Which he grew up to it started out with one mosque and now there are 49 in his hometown of Lutton I think it's called a lot and Basically just talking about the grooming gangs and stuff So it is crazy what they're doing It's under check immigration the hiking Ben yeah What's a hiking you can't go for climate change?

34:35You fucking kidding me. I watched a video yesterday. I found you $28 ,000 of a veteran. I'm a fuck off. I'm a veteran. It takes a video like, hey, I'm with the guys here and not on camera because we're not allowed to record them. But they said that if I walk into the woods here, I'm gonna get a $28 ,000 for you. Are you fucking kidding me? It takes a video of him who walks three feet into the woods, walks out, and then he's a video of him at the desk saying, it's a $28 ,000. It was like a $25 ,000 fine plus like $3 ,000 in taxes and victim fees. Canada's so full of $28 ,000. Canada's such a mess.

35:05Well, they are what we can be if we're not careful if you have the wrong people run the country in the American Omar of all these types I mean if it got to a point where some of these people if you took away The natural born citizenship thing like if you could be a president and never born in America we'd be fucked super Fuck would be fucked because we're already fucked when they become mayors and and and when they become govern If they if that starts happening Yeah, you're just going to import people from all over the world and they're going to take whatever their country is and make that state it Let me ask you this is it true that when you have on so if you have a bunch of illegal immigrants in your town Your your senses numbers go up.

35:44Yes, so so congressional seats right so the way it works is a census only counts how many human beings It doesn't count how many illegal it doesn't care. It doesn't matter That's why they were moving people in with buses So that's why they moved all these people to swing states. You're basically rigging these areas. And then they were trying to offer a pathway to citizenship and allow those people to vote, which would have completely rigged all the swing states. Wow. Yeah. I mean, you want to talk about it pretty extensively and documented it. It's a real thing. And people push back about it's a dangerous conspiracy theory, but it's not because the census counts people.

36:18And the more people you have, the more congressional seats you get. If they just eliminated that, the Democrats would be cooked. If I don't know if that's even legal though, I think constitutionally it's it's basically the way it's set up It's supposed to be the amount of people is not supposed to be the amount of legal citizens Which it should be if congressional seats. I mean come on I think it should be citizens especially when you're just opening up the border and you allowed 20 million people to come in over a period of four years It is a massive percentage of the population of the United States.

36:47It's not like 20 Twenty -five people I was like it's so much use percentage of the original population Yeah, Tommy Roberts and Tommy 43 % I don't know if this is true, but I think it's something like 43 % of the Immigrants that come into the UK and I think in Europe in general are on the dole But especially in the UK so they're on the dole. They're literally on welfare And and the main problem is that a lot of these people from certain countries don't assimilate no because they are you know Islamic first and then you know and essentially the whole idea is to get a caliphate and create a caliphate in the UK which is insane.

37:21Well, they're doing it. That's what's really insane is that they're doing it. But the thing is like who's allowing this to happen and what's the end goal? Did you see the new lady? The family was just the just got elected in the UK for like border patrol and it's just like her air becker. Yeah. Farsi or whatever it is written behind her. Oh yeah, she wants to re -illaw. Like it's it's completely bananas. What? Yeah. This is the problem. It's like you want to assimilate great, doesn't matter where you're from, what you're religion. Who cares? But if you want to start over throwing the very country that you're emigrating into make there You well that's the promise if you say something gets it then oh you're raised Conversation with constant in case I'm not racist.

37:58I grew up in the Arab world fuck fun I'm the farthesting from I love I grew up with the Arabs and Muslims so no you can't call me that but that's fucking crazy That's what you do my cousin. Yeah, everybody every day for any reason difference So can I just say this? Yeah, the biggest thing that the left does is this you you say there's a problem which is a legit problem. You say, you know, London's now in already country, there's these young Muslim men, for example, who are not assimilating and are becoming militant and fundamentalist. Okay, you say something like that. What then a leftist will say is they'll go, instead of like debating that issue, which is a problem, you're just stating a problem, okay?

38:33They will say, oh, your Islamic phobic, your xenophobic and your racist. So they diagnose you. They kind of, I'm stealing this from Nictra free tests, by the way, so shout out to Nictra free tests, But that's what they'll do. They'll they'll diagnose the person and their personality and their character Not they'll step outside of the debate. Yeah, so you can't have a conversation with people like that No, which I can't I'm not but that's all I'm scary though is because there's no talking point It does like there's no common ground that you can just get this you can't agree on right So it's like if I'm over here and you're over here and we both can't meet somewhere in the middle right men can't get pregnant Exactly at some point you just have to fight right Because I'm gonna stop and call you a trans phone in turn my back.

39:13You got a divorce or you have to if a fight But it don't you think that this is on purpose. I think it's to keep each other I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. It's to keep us in chaos so that they can implement more control and it's working Yeah, well is it or are we starting to get wise to the fact that we're all being game. It's a battle Yeah, it's a battle but it's working wise to it. Well, it's where it's working on a lot of people There's a lot of people that are just falling right in yeah, they're falling right in line and you know And if you tell them that they're homophobic or xenophobic or transphobic They'll do whatever the fuck they can do with that label and so then they fall right into your trap.

39:43Although Trump did get elected and it seems like the that argument by the by the left is starting to lose a lot of its Yeah, but it only he elected by half the country. Yeah, the other half the country didn't want I mean a lot of people it's a lot of people so it worked on a lot of people They were in the the process of implementing a plan and that plan if it worked would have made this country a one party state. But disliking Trump and disliking those policies are two different things, right? So there are people that are conservative, who don't like Trump, there are people that are moderate, Democrats, or people who don't like Trump.

40:16My question is you would know this better. How much of this stuff online is real? Is real? Bots? Bots. How much? Huge percentage. Really still. It is like the opposite of real life. An FBI analyst said his money is 80 % of the people that are posting on Twitter or bots. What? Posting what though, just political shit? All kinds of stuff. Every climate, politics, race, gender. There was China just got busted using chat GPT to run a host of different accounts, a bunch of different accounts that were all posting about USAID being shut down. They were posting about LBGTQ plus T .A. whatever the fuck.

40:56Yes, just to divide us more. Just to divide us more. So Brian Shaw told me that he posted a picture of him in Jordan Peterson. He always gets a lot You know, he's a just strong man and he said that he was getting all this like Immediately just all these comments that were like how could you do this and stuff like that? Then he go to the profile and be like this is this doesn't feel like it's real. Yeah, not a real person It's not a real person. There's a giant percentage on Instagram a giant percentage on Facebook and on Twitter that are not real And it's legal and you can do it and I bet we do it too.

41:26I bet corporations do it I bet you can crowdfund by the way on purpose like say if Brian Cown if you like you hated Brendan job It shouldn't be the fighter in the kid. It should be the kid in the kid Just me like everybody agrees Literally you can literally go to a company and have them attack Brendan job and you would pay for it and they would use their BOSS before on me. Yeah, I'm sure but it can be done on anyone. That's the point is like any whatever your goal is say, what's get rid of all red lights? No more traffic lights. You could do that. You could have whatever the fuck you want, have a bunch of fake people protest.

42:05What a waste of fucking time. But you know, you can't do that. But it's not really. It's not really what's so effective with dumb people. Especially if a country doing it, like China can do it to us. So we can't do it to them. Right, so we can't get into their system. They just, they have whatever they want. The people know. Oh, well we're coming to the road. They run their own tower again, and then they run against us, That might be the least of our problems. We let them buy land around military bases. It's on a shit ton of land. My friend had his company attack that way. The biggest issue with China is definitely AI.

42:34Yeah. Yes. That AI is like the next minute. But those two dudes you had on here with AI, they were saying we're actually still a step ahead of them. I don't know if they know. Did I say something wrong? Yeah, they said that at the time, but I don't know if they know. Because here's the thing. They steal all the data from open AI. They steal data from like GROC just got infiltrated by this guy who stole their shit allegedly and then sold it to open AI And open AI got infiltrated allegedly by China like these you've got all these They're over here working In technicians Yeah, because remember when we had to look at this was like the biggest problem Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 % because we had to see Gabba on the podcast where I was like yeah Russian Russian, when I say Russian hackers, I kept talking about Russian hackers, and she's like, hey, off the air, she's like, just so you know, we're better at hacking than they are.

43:28We have better hackers. So this whole thing keep talking about with Russians. I don't know, I kept saying Russians. She was like, America's actually has way better people to hack all that. But it's an arms race. It's an AI race. Yeah, the thing is they're all together. It's the government with the corporations in China. They're all in lockstep. They're not like in battle with their corporations. corporations do what the government says. Exactly. They tried that over here with Facebook, like when Facebook, when the FBI clamped down on them, told them to get rid of the Hunter Biden laptop story.

43:59They did it. Well, they did it in that Facebook. They kind of limited the reach, but Twitter, they completely blocked it. But the other thing that they did was they told them to get rid of factual information about COVID. Factual information. The government was contacting Zuckerberg. Why do you think that is? Because they did want vaccine hesitancy because they wanted to make more money. Got to get it one more money was it was it to believe that they're vaccine saving lives money money for money Really look you you're so cute. They just want to save lives He's still one of those no, but I'm still one of those guys There's not a guy I think the government does I really I'm a goddamn thing the government does for you I like to free make your life better Everything they do is to either get elected raise more money, campaign, more money raising money for causes.

44:48It's their own agenda. In the UK now, they're like, we're going to deal, we have a solution to deal with mass immigration. We're going to digital IDs. So it's like they created an issue and then they're going to give you a solution to give them more control. That's why I think it's how much fucking money do they need? But what you just said, what you just said about the government, whether it's true or not, that's a very important thing to keep to believe. I have represented Luna on the podcast. You know what she said to me? We were talking about certain issues. She goes they don't want to resolve those issues because they could fundraise against them Of course, how about that?

45:19So they literally don't they don't reach resolutions But my question is how much money do they need like? There always need to money every week, but my thing is like Pelosi like how much money is that big heavy bitch? She is the biggest Half a billion half a billion and she just keeps going 400 million. Yeah, well her husband I mean, he's that he's always been an investor, you know, yeah, but Yeah, he's doing he's doing his insurer trade. Right. It doesn't mean it's not it doesn't mean it's all in the up and up obviously You know, I'm just saying how how much how long does she need to go? Yeah, I was 82 years I answered that is that government will continue to grow like a Leviathan and it it it does what does it do?

45:58Well, that's what I want to party here They they want no no common talking ground between the two parties so we just keep fighting well that might be good You want government to fight each other right you want you want this divide and conquer think so government moves at a Clasical pace that would be the idea but right but government is the issue. Yeah, remember when I was trying to start the American American Wing Merlet you started is like the not Democrat. Yeah third party is never really it's hard First of all, I don't think you're allowed to name it I think we looked into that you're not allowed to name your party the America party because you can't call it America's then if you go against you're going against America that's fair that's right the Patriot Act was why did you know I don't know how that's gonna work in effect like if he starts another party oh there we go it's back here we go you'll see he's leaving the SP and the SP and said once you get stuff on his head right there he got staff on his team looks like a Bruce I got something but yeah, good.

46:57This isn't big toe to the titty doesn't look like staff Staff is usually raised it just looks kind of red doesn't really the race from here. I can't tell the worst one ever was Kevin Lee I remember Kevin Lee went to the art. Yeah, well, he's like make up on it. Yeah Was that when he fought Tony? Was it that fight that could be anything that doesn't look raised though dude How about Tony got to win the other night? I think it's a YouTuber. I heard that staff doesn't come from the matter, comes from the person you're rolling with. Is this true? Oh, that is staff. That's staff, actually. Oh, that's 100 % staff.

47:32That's not. See the little white head up top. That's a press stuff. Wow. But if you're in a antibiotics, I think it's 24, 36 hours, you're not contagious anymore. It's just gonna drain your fucking cardio. Yeah. How effective is topical solutions on something like that? So you have to take systemic like into life. I actually just had staff like a month ago. Of course you did. You've had it a thousand times. And I was like, and I actually, I used actually use fucking Grock to help me cure it without antibiotics. Really? So I had it on my back and I put, I put the topical clindamysin pad and there's like liquid clindamysin that you can like just rub on there and there's a pad.

48:08So I doused the pad and clindamysin and I taped the clindamysin pad to my back. And then I broke one of those heating pads and I taped the heating pads to my back because staff, once you start getting above body temperature, it doesn't replicate. Yeah, like it, I think it dies like 140 or 150 degrees somewhere around there. So give this on. But yeah, the problem is that you have to, that's sustained over time. Like you can't sit in 150 degrees sauna for 20 more hours. So I kept a heating pad on there and I would just change it like five, six times a day, change the pad and it went away in like two weeks, it took a little bit longer, but I didn't have to take any.

48:43How's your stomach? Wow, I wish I could, I wish I knew this 10 years ago for it.

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51:40So Mickey is the guy with the tattoos. Yep. So does he make a big fan favorite because he was championing a lower league out there. Oh, is he? Yep. They put a bunch of those cats on there. So Paris didn't, or France didn't even have MMA till really fairly recently, right? Yeah. Ten years ago. Yeah. Because when Francis was over there, he, he, he, he was no MMA. Yeah, you couldn't find that. And then finally they got, PFL did events in Africa. And he didn't show up. Ha ha ha. Yeah, because he said they didn't use any like regional guys. That's why he wouldn't show up. Yeah, really? Yeah, he was like, no, you didn't use any of my fucking guys.

52:20Wow. I think there's a chance. Oh, oh, nice shot. I think there's a chance Francis comes back to the UFC now. I don't think there is. Why you say that I don't think Dana wants that all right well you didn't had a bad experience with them I heard didn't enjoy working with them. Oh, but but you don't think there's a chance some the some of the other shot colors there Go dude we can get him back for him first John him versus at the White House John on the White House card. I think John does the White House I'm a bit not Tate goes he go what's his chance he has one and billion did he really say that is one and billion I saw that John responded with a great answer.

53:02He did have a great saying there's a chance He's saying there's chance you guys I'm a one and billion guy that takes that Chances that's exactly what I thought when I said I saw it and I was like I was like oh Good news is John's most recent case has been dropped. Yeah, which is excellent. Yeah, he wasn't even there apparently I don't know. I don't know. I only go with what my phone says. All right. I think I'm always with my phone. Listen, I think there should be a place. I think there should be a place in this country that has no law. One city. Just one city with no law. It's going to Mexico, Kirk.

53:38Just maybe it's all good. Good idea. Just one place with no law. Or maybe a little gray area in between the states. about the purge. Just 24 hours. Just one place week. You just give book. Wild. Well, you can go down to one. I'm dead. You can just like talk to Mexico. I mean, but Ed Calderon. I was listening to that podcast. Fuck. That's a crazy podcast. That dude has seen it all. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. Well, 37 assassinations in the last Mexican elections. Yeah, but they all debt, but the, but all, but all those politicians they dabble with the cartel. So it's not like no, no, no, no, no, they're not dabbling.

54:13They are all cartel members. That's what I'm saying. That's what you have in German. Yeah, they're all involved. Yeah, seven seven of the right wing cabinets I just I just died. Yeah, then I looked into it. There's no foul play here. I'm like, but that's seven. That's a lot. Yeah, no Falva. Hey, but my thing when you add Ed on a I'm never going to Mexico again, but be Fucking never never But be to I set my wife that because you want to take the kids in Mexico because from there it's never fucking happening Yeah, so I sent her that podcast But when he was like, yeah, Trump's, you know, they have the drones like kind of Following the could cartel and all that to get information on me like he's gonna.

54:51They're gonna do something They're sending people in there But when he was saying the cartels like in the government and the police units there everywhere it's like okay So you're gonna take out the henchmen that does nothing. Well, call their on send you so so my my summarization of that podcast I was like oh, well Mexico's fucked. There's nothing you can do. You're never gonna get rid of it It's too ingrained in the community. But look at look at look at look at look at me He treated it like it was drained here. Like, when you go to Afghanistan, like we're so far separated that it's not really like, there's no saving it.

55:19Like like, like, like, cartel can come up here and fuck with us, correct? Well, call the wrong side. The only way to deal with it is treat it like it's an insurgency. And, and you know, when they had that conservative guy in charge, they actually, they actually did a lot to cripple the cartels. But unless you treat it like an actual civil war, where you got to treat it like this is a real insurgency. You have so much money. They can they buy so many bought this and they buy so many people. It's so difficult to beat them at this point Because we let it get so far. Yeah Mexico let it get so bad that there were when you have 37 people get assassinated in one Elections so hard But how's that not on if CNN wants to break some news?

55:58How's that not on the tracker at all? You have to hear it from me. You have to hear it Did you hear did you hear this this influencer this Tiktok influencer killed her her husband and her seven year old and 13 year old and plastic and put them in a truck. Did you hear about this? This is a last week ago. But see, that's what I'm saying in Mexico. Yeah, and then the two guys. Because the husband was doing something. And the two guys that cops brought in were witnesses to it. They got kidnapped. Jesus Christ. But then at say like 91 % of murders go unsolved. Yeah, yeah. Everything's just a cold case.

56:30Yeah, I do. I think any of these. If you're the 9 % that gets busted, what the fuck you do? You can walk there. You can just walk there. You can walk right into chaos. Yeah. You can walk there. From here, you can get there in a day. But if you're a tourist, that sounds like a leave you alone. Five hours drive. Dude, when I was living in California, I had my Ford Lightning. And there's a shop down there that makes carbon fiber parts for lightning. So I was like, I'll just go pick it up. I drove down there. And the guy working the custom goes, what are you doing? What are you doing? What do you mean?

57:01I'm here to pick up some car parts. He goes, listen, we knew you were coming because you posted. You were coming down here. We knew you're coming and we're good and we're fans. We're good guys But if we know you're coming the bad guys know you're coming They don't come back there man like really he's I don't come back He's like you're in a loud orange Ford lightning and you're posting you're coming down here Yeah, don't do that worth it wasn't I know that made school Yeah, it's called five offenders are tough to fight who would run from mayor look at that From 2018 to mid -2024 1 ,709 murders attacks and threats reported against politicians and officials that is crazy Who's gonna run for fucking police?

57:43The land of it. That's so there's some people just eat this up here You think you think at 27 they got like fuck this dude Well, call around said the people are getting so sick of it. I think ultimately they become this what are they gonna do? I revolt the population and we didn't do arms itself. That's good. Yeah, that's good. What good shot? I think there's some organized now. Yeah, they're literally like military military weaponry and they have nightfishing They have armies. I mean this one said what are you gonna do? I don't know a revolt and do what get murdered I think I think you're gonna see more of that what that happened that Venezuelan boat that just got taken out in the middle of the water I was seeing people saying that that was in a cartel thing and that what Donald Trump is Committed as a war crime.

58:27He blew up people from Venezuela. I know he's like you don't think they know This this fucking boat filled with taped up Satchels Yeah, and Maduro I can't believe that the Justice Department said Maduro We have a reward for his arrest 50 million dollars. Oh You know 50 million dollars on the president's head that's setting something up. They're setting something up Oh yeah, there must be some golden, them, dark hills. Yeah, I got a feeling we got some, some, some badass is kind of already down there. Well, probably, there's probably also some, I mean between Mexico and Canada, it's just a shit shit.

59:06Yeah, but Canada is like so much saver. Yes, Canada, you have your job, you have your reputation destroyed. And, and Mexico, they kill your whole family. It's kind of a difference. In Canada, one of 20 people in Canada is assisted suicide. What? Yeah, one in 20. What? Yeah, I'll send it to Jamie so he could post it. It is so crazy. In other news, did you see that Roy Jones Jr.? Wasn't that a heartwarming? What? So amazing. The guy that gave him his gold medal. Yeah, that Korean guy who got beat. I love that. It was heartwarming. It was really cool. I got emotional over it. Yeah, because there it is.

59:46assisted dying out counts for one in twenty counted a dust but it would that's how that's how to press their will they do it for people to depressed the doing for people all your her knee but not like anymore okay they killed fifteen thousand three hundred people last year what a shit show what a shit uh... the legalized in two thousand sixteen but it showed around fifteen thousand three hundred three hundred people underwent assisted dying last year median ages seventy seven though after being successful in their applications The median age is 77, I kind of get that. So you can just do it for any reason?

1:00:20Yeah, small minority of other cases, patients may not have been terminally ill, but sought assist to death due to long and complicated illness that had significantly impact their quality of life. Well, it really makes you think like what percentage of people are just suffering, where life just fucking blows. Oh, wow. Probably quite a bit. And no, they don't end in those tanks. They do in those like weird stations. I don't know how they do it. I don't know. We see them. They look pretty nice. They're doing Morgan. I would tell you, you could get a suicide in Oregon. I would tell you, how they put them down.

1:00:51Do we know? I don't know. Is there an IV or is it gas or something? Because there's a place in Sweden, I watch a documentary on it. He kind of jumped in this little like alien ship looking thing and just came over. You guys asked me with his wife and I was like, all right, see on the other side and just, I'll be you and I were talking to a suicide one time and I was like, I can't understand how anybody would do it. and a guy who I would come to my shows periodically and he'd give me like, he made knives and stuff. And he emailed me and he goes, just so you know, I'll give you an idea of what it's like when you cosplay suicide.

1:01:23I was like, okay, and he goes, you're a bit of a hussana and you can't stand another second, you gotta get out, because it's just too hot. Think of being that with no doors all the time. For your whole life. Yeah, and I was like, holy fuck. And did he do it or no? He tried twice I guess and now he's better. Well think about the kind of pain that bismina's been in because of his neck You know, yeah, but bismina's a guy, but you he didn't even consider it. No, there's a difference I'll try to line up a fight think about Gordon think of the shit he deals with you still winning. You know, I'm saying Being seasick, I just can't understand how no one can figure out how to fix what's wrong Oh, well, I mean the issues that they know what the issue are, what the issue is and they're just like we're gonna Try to reset your gut by having like sweet what's like the like agree upon baseline homeostasis for like what your gut I'm supposed to be like we don't know there is let's different for every person.

1:02:20So just just see nothing but kimchi for a year and So I can do that. Yeah, work could just come myself I Don't do that god by home. Yeah That's like a Fifka noon and he's got that clinic because everybody always wondered like what happens if you take antibiotics too much There you go now we know yeah, we remember my psoriasis you remember seeing how covered I was and then Andy Galpin and Dan Garner how you laugh it usage piece shit But I can I just I know it is face Like when who's a Bobby labors like I was brutally molested. Yeah, I just started fucking crack

1:03:03Brody Bobby goes alright. I'm gonna say this again if you if you guys laugh and change it every time and Efficient sleep when I was Just avoid it was brutally my sound like you don't say brutally No, I think it's obvious like Bobby might have been making that story up. He was He's the funny I was laughing because every time we got worse and worse and worse Bobby's one of the funniest people at least funny. Yeah, he's one of the funniest people ever very funny I miss him so Santino man. Well Bobby not talk to you anymore No, wait wait we tax it. We're good interesting, but I miss like three years ago.

1:03:37No, no I don't tax like a regular base. No, I said we made up though. Yeah, he had said he told somebody say hi to me And then I said, hey, you know, I heard and I said he goes, how are you? I go I'm good and eternally sorry and he goes we're good and that's cool. See at the mothership that's a good fight. Lopez Diego Lopez. That's a great fight. We'll be fast next weekend. Does Bobby come to the mothership much? Uh, he's been there. Yeah. I mean, he comes in. He's in town. I tried to get him to move here. I've never moved in Austin. But when he was here, he met some nice ladies. Tim Dylan's take on Austin Salaris.

1:04:15It's funny. It's so funny. He's like, there's like two good restaurants. I've been to multiple times. There's no live music scene. There's six buskers on heroin. And so, he was here all the time. He was here last week. He's going to be here again this week. Yeah, he's the best. He owns two houses here. Yeah. He's just not. He's very funny. He's just being silly. It's so funny. And then they write articles on it. Well, it's really funny is that it became like a whole thing. Like the movements leaving Austin. and the shine has worn off. It quoted me, Shane Gillis and Tim Dylan, saying how much we hated Austin.

1:04:48I just said I miss the baseball dads in LA. That's all I said, man. That's hilarious. I love it here. I used to miss the comedy store until I opened the mother's ship. That was all I missed. I love everything else about Austin. I have no problems here. I'd like them to clean up some of that homeless shit, though. Compared to LA. Yeah, it's pretty bad on six. Where is first of all what are you doing on six other than go to the club and get out of the club? Yeah, I don't know. I got a Dede rabbit sometimes that's problem right some shelters right there Which is so nuts you get some people that are homeless right trying to get clean and where do you put their shelter a block away from the biggest party?

1:05:26Fuck it's not Texas. I know it's so dumb. I'll be honest. I haven't seen because I'm not I haven't been down to six at all I haven't seen a single homeless person Yeah, well, they're very essentially located. Yeah, it's all six trees and I'm in like I'm like a weird bubble Where it's like pleasantville? It's just there's no danger and I don't like it. Look at this look at this. This is a matter of time That's it. Herb Dean seen enough. Yeah, that guy that guy was just he was just you see I feel I feel like this can't even be real But it might be did you see they just opened the a $65 million trend gender homeless shelter in New York.

1:06:04What does that mean? How many homeless people are transgender? I saw it. We could be a factor. There's three people in there. Well, Mom Donnie is saying that he wants to set it up where people can go there and get snipped for free. He's gonna win, huh? Hopefully. Yeah. To watch New York try to experiment with a socialist again. I heard an interesting take yesterday. We're apparently a lot of the a lot of the super rich people in New York It's so actually want them to win so they're like yeah, go ahead fucking we're not gonna be affected Yeah, you guys fucking see how good do you see the opens first tax Building in trans gender home with selten was progressive political theater that is adorable 150 beds for trans and gender non -conforming individuals nowhere to sleep That's what expensive.

1:06:52Wow. That is really wild. Nations first. What is gender nonconforming? Do you get to choose if you're gender nonconforming? What if I just decide I'm gender nonconforming? I think all I have to do is just say it. Yeah, you can just say I'm gender nonconforming. The okay. Well that's what's new about that transgender movement. It's rooted in what? A feeling. It's not rooted. So you can be a minority and a minority on the same level or even bigger than a black man, ask Dave Chabell because you feel like one. You know it's weird though. have your daughters are older have your kids actually like when that transgender shooter the just the was that last week was the mass shooter seven of them in a row yeah I'm saying this last one it's all over the news we have the news on when my kids asked me about it yeah because kids kind of have a better understanding mean it mean it's very black and white where they're like wait dad he's a or she's a girl I know that's a guy right he's like but she thought she was a girl I'm like she He felt like it, but she's a man.

1:07:50He's like, oh, that makes sense. There's no, the list of the thing is, in the manifesto, this guy said that he regrets going trans, and he doesn't want to chop his hair off. He really hates his hair. He doesn't want to chop it off because he'd be like giving in to all the people that said he wasn't really a woman in the first place, but he regrets ever doing it in the first place. Here's my take on it. It's not about transgender people being more violent, has nothing to do with that. There are people that are completely out of their minds, And one of the manifestations of that is to decide that you're a different gender.

1:08:22Gender, just right. So, what happens is, but now, when you stigmatize that, when you say you're not even allowed to talk to somebody, but maybe they might be a little confused, because that's considered conversion therapy. What happens is you're now lumping those two things in. Where I say, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So in other words, this kid is not allowed to talk to someone about being confused about their gender. No, so, so - They're saying you don't have to tell your parents? No. So there was a... in California, there was legislation presented and a number of states would say, when a child says, I feel like a girl, but I'm a boy and a psychiatrist tries to treat that as an abnormality or a mental illness or a confusion.

1:09:05I'm just saying you can't question it. That... Religious, yes. You can use your license. Why? Because Miriam Grossman, I had her on, she wrote Trans Nation, I think. And that can be considered malpractice and you can get sued and lose your yeah, so within the real problem is it's like Yeah, I took drugs because they're all there you go and what I'm saying is that if you might have a kid who's profoundly Disturbed in a in a number of ways one of the manifestations of that is saying I'm now a girl or whatever it is That should be a signal maybe many times that your kid is not well and let's take a look at what the fuck is going on.

1:09:43Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you say that then your anti -trans like that. Of course. That's what I would that's what I'm saying. How many mass shooters have we had? Clearly there's a fucking issue man. Right. There's an issue. Right. Doesn't mean all trans people are bad but these mass shooters that we have to figure it out can't keep going down this road. I'm getting into my family. I say we just keep going down this road. We don't have Troy's as long as we disarm him all

1:10:11This is what you gotta do. I can't wait to see the left defend Gunway yeah, I'm gonna open up a transgender gun club Let's go the left will never oppose me if I just like I say well I'm gonna open up a gun club only for transgender and non -binary Conforming people whatever it's good gender non -conforming. Have you tried to have any of the really far left to professors on your podcast. Yeah, no. I've had them in the past. Have you? Yeah, yeah. How's that go? Not so good. No. Yeah. I Thaddeus Russell, I had a very long and stupid conversation with him about the difference between men and women.

1:10:51There's no difference. And I'm like, so if you get a boy puppy, if you get a puppy, and it's a boy puppy, and you want it a girl puppy, and they say, well, there's no difference. What do you fuck are you talking about? This is the dumbest conversation I've ever ever been. But at least that is the guy who have the debate. Most of the left one even talked about. Yeah, but it's not a good one. It's just talking circles. It's nonsense. It's nonsense. We talking circles. Like I thought we were on the same page. I was like, no way off. Yeah, that's what you're saying nonsense. It does the empty. I don't think he does.

1:11:19I'm not sure. I shouldn't say that. I have no idea. Well, the bottom line is biology is really simple. Double X, X, Y. Sometimes there's a mistake. Sometimes there's an error and you get X, Y. Sometimes you get her maffordites and there's that that is a real thing. There's over it's super fucking rare But this is a social contagion and Abigail Schreier wrote a fantastic book about a call irreversible damage that she highlights how They're happening in these clusters of a lot of girls who are autistic. Yes, and Let's get to the bottom of that. What's causing all that? How come one in every 12 kids who's a boy in California has autism now?

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1:14:14So you're saying we shouldn't have that same. Do that absolutely understands tetanus she said tetanus oh you have to do is keep the wound open and clean it Oh, that's a double shit. It's not my god. Oh shit. Do you know people dive tennis every year? Very cute. What about just let me ask you a question mr. Joe Rogan mr. Science is that you saying don't do that Don't call me mr. Science. I'll start mocking you on it so much easier Oh, are we are we not so you don't believe in a vaccines? You don't think we share vaccines? It's not that I don't believe in vaccines Kids think I don't think you should give a kid a happy vaccine when they're a baby Different subjects.

1:14:44No, MMA vaccine is absolutely connected to a host of serious debilitating fucking problems that kids have gotten from them. There's a lot of problems because they don't test vaccines in a double blind placebo control setting. They test them against other vaccines. You know that, right? Yes, I do. Excuse me. Let me just say something. Yes, you're right. You can make the argument for hep B. Here's why. Because the chances of a child coming in contact with the kind of activity that causes hep B is different. So now you say this you say this that chances zero the chance for vaccine injury with the head V B is not zero is non zero.

1:15:21Okay, so I understand that math. Okay, what I'm trying to say to you is that there are certain diseases pick up a history book smallpox diphtheria mom's have you ever looked at this? How paralytic diseases as you have a whole yo please stop you don't I know I know you I think it's just, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, this is a long conversation that we're not gonna have on this podcast, because I'm gonna get angry, because I've researched this for years. Right, but you're not a scientist. I don't have to be a scientist. Yeah, you do, as you do.

1:15:50Brian, shut the fuck up. I don't have to be a scientist to read research, to understand that they were spraying DDT all over the fucking country when everybody was getting polio. Do you know that? Yes, I do. You know, the first ass I do. They happen in rural communities where they're all farmland and agriculture and then cows were getting them and horses were getting them and dogs were getting them let me make a statement They're calling it Parallytic polio do you agree with the following statement? It's not just to do this with you, but it's not just about I brought that It's not just about pulling debate.

1:16:19Oh, no Joe. No, bro. I don't want to do this But it's not just about where's the middle of a fight companion. It's annoying But it's like I'm not. Yeah, yeah. And the epiates are not vaccinated. But the epiates are not vaccinated. No, it's a time of accident. It's a time of accident. It's a time of accident. It's a time of accident. It's a time of accident. My kids are all vaccinated. And they're vaccinated, but they went on a delayed schedule. They delayed schedule. So did mine. So did mine. Yeah, good for you. I don't think you need to. No, they're healthiest fuck. Yeah. Between the two of them, they have 12 touch -ends this week.

1:16:51Two home runs. I think the problem is that the pharmaceutical drug companies have an exemption because of what they did in the 1980s with Reagan where they allowed them to never worry about being sued and that's when they ramped up the fucking schedule and that's also the correlation when you look at all the fucking host of all sorts of diseases and issues. Just look at autism. It's through autism is just one. There's a lot of other autoimmune issues. There's a lot of serious problems. I think there are three things that have pushed our usbiannur biology and the reason we don't have a lot of children dying in nutrition, sanitation, and vaccines.

1:17:27And I think anybody who says otherwise is, you know, I think it's crazy. But you can't say all vaccines be. I didn't say all vaccines. But you're not saying all vaccines. But he's not saying all vaccines. It sounds like he is. Brian, you know what the fuck I'm saying? You don't. Well, I know because you don't want to talk about it. Brian, I don't want to talk about it in the middle of the podcast because it'll completely derail the podcast. And I'll start showing you statistics. If you look at when people stop getting all of these diseases and then when the introduction of vaccines happen It's at the end after the diseases already gone through the population Most of those diseases were eradicated by sanitation and nutrition those those there was a huge problem in this country People were living in fucking squalor I agree, but there's still pathogens that are very dangerous sure So so the problem is that these pharmaceutical drug companies are fucking insanely entirely corrupt They have been corrupt for a long fucking time and there's a revolving door between the FDA and these pharmaceutical drug corporations They go from the FDA into these positions They have this golden parachute and then they ramp up the fucking schedule every year and it's not about public health None of it is about looking out for you all of it is about making money That's the problem who wants to do some smell assaults okay?

1:18:41It's good. Okay, who wants to do some smell assault chuck one over here jammy. We got some Where's the okay from from your mother's pussy. Hey, that's out of the line. Hey, that's fucking, that burn is too far. Joe and I always have these arguments, Gordon. Yes. This one's weak. Is it? Yeah. It's a little old. It's a little old. Get you going, now. What is it? Look at what we got up. We got seven of them over here. Besides, get you some, Brian. Get that big. Besides to watch the fucking dick nose. Watch your friends suffer what are the actual I don't know let's find out pop one of those See if it cares to tell me wait you up though.

1:19:23I hope you stop it or could they be not just we'll say Yeah, if he fucking projectile ball is on the boot up great don't do it for corn. You might throw up That's good for this one's basically dead. What is it actually supposed to do though? It's like it just jolt your system and like this guy guy Just get your adrenaline line around every place I go

1:19:48I was like I want more of that shit once I do it once I want to do it. I want to keep doing it I was supposed to wake you up. Yeah, they're wake up guys are doing before the lift super heavy Yeah, I know that PRs Why are you spiking it right now? Just a party. Hey, just to get away from the vaccines before he's broken I was helping you right after right after we sniffed it that brim is gonna bring vaccines back We did a tape together. Two joys. I don't even know. Joe and I used to have arguments about acting class. We'd get in shouting fights. He used to tell me that vitamins weren't necessary.

1:20:22Vitamins aren't necessary. I told you it was gone. I told you that vitamins don't work. They don't do anything. They just mean him and their fucking restaurant in Seattle. Why don't we, please shut the fuck up. Yeah, but then I started taking vitamins and I called him up. I go, dude, I feel great. He goes, fuck and I know. I wish you could go back in time and not take vaccines. Why am I still healthy? I never got to rise this is crazy shut up turns out I had autism the whole time now dude We've been in Austin for how many months now? I've been trying to give him a ways to well for how it finally I got my level I My test the best so I just got my level says pipe with pregnant.

1:20:55It was awesome And I got stem cells nice so check this out. I got I go I worked out at Arc type this is Marvin Victoria's brother, isn't they look very similar? I worked out I meant to call you about this so I I work out And I kind of forgot I had to go so I probably shouldn't have worked out didn't sleep much But my test is is low has ever been which is 785 not bad for me. That's very good. That's very good Yeah, now my free though is is low It's like 45 who she said it should be 151 But then I did a bunch of research on chat GPT with pub med and I looked at I talked to a couple other doctors And they said if your test is that high because I have a lot of energy They go just be careful because you got to test it again So she at waste well they go we don't want to put you on anything yet because we want to test because your your magnesium is a little low Mm -hmm, and your DHA or whatever it is So they're gonna put me on that because they're my test is really high.

1:21:48Yeah, just T. R. T No, no, no, he's right. Yeah, I take magnesium If you have low magnesium, that's huge. Yeah, and I talked about a lot of almost straight Mike is retell who who gave me that he told me I said if I wanted to get huge Give me the steroids Not possible and he goes do you want do you know mind if your liver become styrofoam? I go just fucking hit me with it. He came in a stack. I saw that dude. It's great. Yeah, he's a freak He's amazing. What was he talking that guy and all that he's PhD? I don't need to take that gun everything Well, and also he's on everything. Oh, yeah, have you had him on he's hilarious.

1:22:18Oh, I love that guy Here we go Should I think the combing events next okay and Jones is the combing next yep nice Nice. Nice. That's what I'm looking for me too. Rufian Benoit. Who do you if you had to go to your head? Who do you have Mavava? Mahalo. Mavava. I like it. It's a this is Baha 'u's toughest fight. I think in the UFC. Mavats has a better strength of schedule too. I usually go by that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely faced the tougher competition and he's coming off of a KO of one of the all -time greats. I don't think either one gets. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, damn. Oh, please end fast.

1:22:56I don't think

1:23:02He's getting dinged tough though. There we go. Well, he's moving. Yeah, it's definitely moving, but he keeps getting popped on a chin. I don't think the winner of Mavov in this um, fight, uh, Homsat. No, I think the winner of Fleffy and RDR fight Because I think that's more like it end in a finish. Yeah, I think he's got a fucking chin. I'll tell you that. This dude gets kept. Oh crap and Oki can cry and he's throwing haymakers at him. Yeah, I think looking like a young Kevin Randleman. Bahález, his defense is really good striking, but he's really good all around. That team, that fighting nerd's team is so good.

1:23:43Are they so good? Yeah, they're so good. Where are they at it? Brazil. Yeah, that's John Silva, that's Carlos Prattes, Maricio Rufi, Barhalio, now Mikhail Olex -Sajak, he's over there with them now. Wow. Came over from Poland, it's like fuck it, let's go. I feel like those poles and stuff, those Russians have such good fundamentals and defense. Have good bones. Like when when Jan Bohova, she's still fucking go shinde shinde with people. She's just like, yeah, Magomedov was just fucking limping all over the place. Like what the fuck are you doing? Just going shinde she went crap. Oh He's such a dense dude my shins are like fucking touch him you flick him I got bird bones.

1:24:30I wouldn't make great fighter if I didn't have bird bones see I'd like to see DDP at light heavy Really? Yeah, I think you'd fuck some dudes out. Do anything dude out wrestle him there? The problem with that guy is now afterward hums. I did to him. Everyone's gonna out wrestle the words out If you're given the right match ups then if you get to ankle I mean, the thing is those most guys are not at home's ups Well, most people aren't as good at keeping at riding Oh my god, it's turned around look at this. Oh my god. No, he doesn't have it under He's landed. I'll tell you what to I was in this guy's got tired I mean, you know how much energy he blew pretty good at riding chest to chest and he's much better than most and pretty much everyone when it riding chest to back.

1:25:12Dude, I went to the Homsatz camp, and I didn't wanna be biased. I called Joe when I left, I went dude. I've never seen anyone look like that. And I was like, I've been out of the game a little bit. Last person I saw that dominant in camp was John. Dude, I'm talking national champion wrestlers, all American wrestlers, world class judo guys. He was fucking him up. And was kinda going light, and then the coach yelled something and whatever chest in, and he just fucking mopped the floor with everybody. back the back the back. Do you think that bone echo has taken a little page from that that whole game which is I'm gonna just blast up you or grab we're gonna find out they just announced that you do with it's different that yeah when when he fought Reiner Deritter first of all what do you do you get him to the ground and then what happens you're gonna get strangled like Deritter's way better on with the Jiu Jitsu way better with Jiu Jitsu and what if he reverses you and gets you on your back you know like so he didn't want That also Doriter is way bigger he didn't do it or six four and he's a giant one eighty five giant Both never gonna fight one tomorrow.

1:26:17Oh, oh my god Oh wow No, wow, let it go damn guys are exhausted. This was a crazy first round. Yeah, it was But now that this guy weathered the storm what a fucking chin Jones dude what a chin cuz this dude takes some bombs Other dudes me gasped is everybody gonna move into a crucifix now to after that fucking DDP fight How many times did he get him in a crucifix man? I think it's like a full five minutes. He had him control bananas, but wasn't doing too much damage there No, but I still think it's a mistake where people like oh the homestials born to whoa That's how he fought DDP these next guys like he's a finisher man.

1:26:58He's a fucking savage. Yeah Well, he wanted to win, right? It's gotta keep more. But also to your point, Joe, he wanted to win. It's also his first time. And I know it's Hamza and he's this big. There's all this hype. Remember, it's his first chance at a title. If I didn't, did he get the W of the same? You don't want to risk it on your feet. But he even went in the corner with Shrukin was in his corner. He was, I want to stand Shrukin. It was absolutely not. Kid, do what you're doing. He pressed the... We have it in the back. He's like, keep doing what you're doing. I went the back, so I'm the key.

1:27:26He also learned a valuable lesson. Because if you look at his fights in the past, like the big the big question was cardio was cardio was will he will he fade in the fourth and fifth whereas DDP just never see I don't think that got answered because if I if you did a UFC fight you were just on top of the time doing Jiu -Jitsu I don't find out much about that because that that's what you do but he learned an important lesson from it that if if you can ride the guy and make him carry body weight for the full amount full full time of the match doesn't matter how good the cardio is there's such a discrepancy in work rate.

1:27:59That even if his, even if his VO2 max is much higher than yours, he's going to get it fast. He's going to get faster. So he learned a tactical lesson where he just basically just recreated what Kabeb does. Like with Gilbert, he was just striking the whole time and you saw he started to get. Also Gilbert has a guard. Yeah. Gilbert has a very dangerous guard. And I think that was part of the problem. And he was compromised at 170, I think. He's so big. How we got to 70? I'm like, what? Yeah, I think you're right. Compromised 170 that way cut was brutal he's a legit six to his name. He's big and he's strong It's shit man, which is really crazy that he got himself to 170 and still maintain any strength that wrestling strength Yeah, I don't know who's gonna beat him at 85 bro.

1:28:42Okay is tie -eared Yes, tie -eared out to get the finish Well, Chelsen and famously said that once if you go for a finish and you do not get it you won't win a decision It's not always it's not always it's interesting, but it's a very it's a very astute quote. Yeah, you use all your adrenaline. Oh Get tossed. You know, there's matches with the two I heard that was a buggy joke. I heard that was a They look fake. They look fake. Yeah, look at their work. Yeah, they look. Yeah, I believe it was fake

1:29:17I think it would happen anyway

1:29:22They had a match at ADC and Jail also took it on like a day notice. Yeah, so that's how that should go. Yeah, I'm sure he's in mid camp anyway Gordon if you ever rolled with any of those high -level Russian wrestlers or Taggies No, I mean there's some salmbo guys like We had like a couple of smaller guys that used to train out of Ricardo Ricardo made those camp But like none of the big guys no It was really, I was listening to you talk about the importance of watching, studying, the minutiae, like tape, like sitting there and watching, like almost a way of football player watches tape. Nobody does that, huh?

1:30:03They do. They do. I'm saying what you do to them. They do, but most people just don't know what to look for. They, they, oh, nice spinning elbow. Yeah, you just break it down. They, they look, they look, they look for the wrong things or just surface level things most designed. Like like Seruchian and Hamza would watch hours of tape and if they and they'd watch it with with no commentary And they'd watch hours and hours to pick up tendencies from the guy and if the guy only did it once they'd watch like five of his fights Really did a move once it's on his episode. They're watching tape all the time all pros are yeah at this level You don't make this little just but if you look at the wrestling that the dagostanig guys do in fighting There's no real place to study that wrestling.

1:30:45You have to create your own system because it's not Jiu -Jitsu It's not wrestling. Like if you look at freestyle wrestlers, freestyle wrestlers historically and you have seen don't hold anybody down Like they they take the takedowns are scored by the actual takedowns and freestyle wrestlers. Yeah, I always I always wondered why But that's a good point not not control. Yeah, yeah to take down and when we were fighting means nothing It's the control that actually scores like can you hold the guy down and actually keep him down and do damage That's why the dad he's a dumb guy. He'll well Ramero never used his wrestling because he was so I think that's a cardio Yeah, really but he's so he would he would put guys down but he wouldn't hold him down.

1:31:20Yeah, like like when could be and Hamsa guys that Jones is fucking okay. I'll keep them down or George put a guy down like he would keep him down Yeah, okay's in real trouble and you know George did a better job at punishing guys as they get up Oh Bo's comes out and could be a better job. Oh my god of controlling of controlling and making the carry body So Jones has some fucking cardio man because this is a crazy This is a and they're in the middle of the second. He's just smashing about to stop it. They're about to start Oh my god. He's gonna go out. Yeah, we're just gonna go out. Come in event baby Come on.

1:31:55Wow. What a comeback. Wow Paul Craig is fighting for all Paul Craig that's my favorite guy to watch when he's on his back Yeah, Paul all Craig can pull some shit off. He's one of the rare guys. I think he's lost six times last eight Yeah, he loses but he just read they you have to just reassign them. Oh, he's finding me dust is Bokakis He's fun to watch. I like him at light heavyway too when he got down the middle weight I was like boy. How hard is that you're so big? Are there any Americans left in there? No Americans? No American champions right? right? Kayla Henson. Okay, I'll hear her. She's yelling with males.

1:32:28No males. She's going to fight, uh, New Nia's at 45, at the White House. At the White House. 35. Make it 45 for her. I mean, I thought it was just painful. She made 35 to win the title. That's the champ. She's the champ of 35. That fights out the White House. She was at the White House yesterday. How did she solve that? It was kind of crazy that Amanda Nunez has been the 45 pound champion and then they just abandoned the weight class. Yeah. Cause there's like three big batches. And she was running through them. You know, like, it's like, it's like KL -L. Yeah, it's like KL -L at one of the USCs and just like when she was probably 175, I mean, it's obscene.

1:33:03She's just, she looks like Glacin T -Bel. She's incredible. Yeah. She's just incredible. She's like just incredible, like just, you know, a body like that. I'm too light in the ass, but, you know, I appreciate it. Yeah, would you like it to grab you and throw you around? Shut up, shut up, shut up. You've only had a huge car. Shut up. I'm out. I miss my will. If she only had a beard, she's not a tie. She'd be more of a tie. She's just in the car. One of them, one of them beards like Gordon Ryan, a special operator beard. No, I think she's, I think, yeah, she's pretty girl. And you taught him how the greatest judoka ever out of America.

1:33:34And you want to, Jen, Jen, Jen, when she's, I thought she was very hot. You know, see her when she's all skinny and stuff. I saw her at the UFC and addressed her. She looks a lot better now. Yeah, she's, she's starving herself to make that weight, her whole life. She's great, great fighter. But Kayla here since most supposedly that's the she's gonna find the White House guard. Oh, Valentina ship Shanko is I find a very attractive Cool, you look how she got a gun tattooed on her hip. I do It's very you take kind of black with a kind of essence. She's a real -life black widow like the lady from the Avengers Yeah, she's guns.

1:34:12Yeah, like really good do she's a really good markswoman. I guess you would she's fighting whaley Yeah, that's gonna be that's interesting very fun Well at this point in her career it seems to me that you know She doesn't wait into the fire like she did when she was younger, you know, yeah, I mean Grapples heavy to she has very good grappler very good grappler, but Jean Whaley is a dee She's a demon Chinese demon She comes out and she could do everything. Art of officially creating one. She's got to deal with that wrestling though. That's the one thing I think. She's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting.

1:34:48You see if Jean Waley is even stronger at 125. Because I don't know how much weight she's cutting. I don't know how hard that 115 cut is. But when you're down that low, ten pounds is a giant difference. It's so big. There's never been any movement on just making another way class in the middle of that. God, there should be. There should be a way class. Sell us it should never happening. There should be a weight class every 10 pounds for my box Yeah, no boxing is a lot more boxing a lot more. It's just they just needed where there's tweeners like 85 to 205 is bananas 20 pounds crazy. Well, hold up remember I would find out one two 30 to 35 every guy thought was two 65 right So you're about from 206 to two 65 is a weight class That's insane.

1:35:30It is really should be a cruiser way. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it should be a two 25 weight class Remember when we're trying to figure out that name the other day for the weight class in boxing, I think it's called bridge or weight. Wouldn't it be great to manage your portfolio on one platform? Well, now you can trade all in one place on Robinhood. That means you can trade individual stocks and ETFs and also buy and sell crypto using seriously powerful and intuitive tools at one of the lowest costs on average without needing to manage multiple apps. Robinhood makes withdrawing and deposit in crypto seamless.

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1:37:38Meanwhile, I would give you while the grill over here couldn't make 2 .25 and he'll tell you he can. But he could be hard. I could. It would be dehydration. I'm not doing tons of cardio now. If Pereira can make 185, he can make it. He's gonna make it. But the thing is like big, strong muscle guys actually can lose more weight. That's why YoL could do it because your muscles are mostly well. All right, I'm gonna make sense. Yeah, bridge your weight, that's it. We couldn't remember what that was the other day. That's an awesome idea. Yeah, it's a good move. I think that they should have legitimately a weight class every 10 pounds in MMA and I don't think that's bad.

1:38:17You have a ton of 205 and you can get a little crazy there and go 205, 225 and then I think for heavyweight it should be unlimited. It shouldn't be you have to make 265. The problem is you get big sloppies. So we got to sell this thing. Big sloppies get fucked up. They don't have a problem with that in box. They already have big sloppies now. Yeah, look at Moses, say, Thomas. Right, boxing doesn't have a problem like that. Right, that kid is only like 250 or something like that or 240 something. I mean, the USC has a problem at 265. Like, there's no talent right now. There's no big guys. Right, but you don't have to be 265.

1:38:49You could be 300. You could be 205. You could literally wait. Like a rock listener. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look at Brock Lesnar or Francis, if he didn't cut weight. Like Francis cuts, or Tim Sylvie in his prime when he was, oh, what is this? Where is Francis Markle climbing? Manning faction, big guys right now. Francis is not many. Yeah, I think Francis is at his highest. It is probably around 300. What I had been on with him one night and he was 95 Seriously, oh, no, so yeah, and there's no fat on him. No, I was I was sitting next to him and his fucking Like his light was like besides my fucking torso.

1:39:23Jesus Christ So he had a cut weight to get to 265 Imagine that so did carwind so did lastner. Yep, so yes boys. Yeah, so horny Mark I remember when I was training in a mall Easton space in Boulder and car when walked in who did him look at a human being It looks like one of the Avengers. It looks like the thing. First time I met so big. First time I met Carmen. I look at him. I go, fuck, I go. I don't know what I do if I had to share a jail cell with you. And he goes, I didn't even know him. He goes, you suck my cock. And then he picked me up. I didn't even know I picked me up. And he squeezed me.

1:39:58And I started tapping. He goes, that's 30%. That dude had giant fists. His fists were preposterously. Four X, four X, right? Something four and five X. Yeah, something he was 285. Yeah, he had biggest glove ever you have to hit He was your main sparring partner, right? It's good for your head. That's all I had just punching each other in the face It's a great team We push each other bro. How good is Laurent Murphy? Good good about poor Aaron Pico Is that what they're gonna do? They did it. What do you mean? They're on Murphy? Fucking spinning elbow Aaron Pico. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I thought you said porier and Pico So I guess beach improvement.

1:40:35I thought you said that I was like what the point a what I guess I was so confused I was like pico's going to 55, but he just got knocked down. He looks so Good he looks so good. Yeah, he's so slick. He's too aggressive. He said it Look at even pico pico pico took him down. Yeah, like the amazing wrestler. Yeah, and couldn't hold him down Yeah, that's right point. It's good point right if you have that daggy wrestling Yeah, you're controlling more but even the first 20 seconds and I looked at my wife I'll go because I get knocked out she like what I'm like he's way too aggressive at you You can get away being that aggressive at these lower levels Bellator P .F .A.

1:41:12All that shit right and you're fighting a world -class guy Dude, they're gonna use that aggression to get you and you get fucking time That's you're not just gonna get starched. You're gonna get so fucking I thought it was him I thought it was a lucky shot and then I was like Oh, I don't know that's the vaccine's talking. That's the vaccine's There's a there's a few guys. Look at that fucking what is that choke? Is that an anaconda? I see the star of it. Look at how it gets over and starts barking. He's in that fight nerd camp, right? Yes. Yes. He's one of the best. That's a good fight. That's a really good fight.

1:41:46Him and Lopez. It's insane and total. In it next Saturday. You're supposed to be in Mexico. Yeah. Yeah. Lopez guy. Well, who did he lose to? That was the reason that's fight. What was it? Vokanovsky's the champ's guy. Vokanovsky's the fucking good. To come back by the way, that way class two. I hate his age. They should go Murphy versus Vokanov. I talked to him. I thought this didn't his camp with us. There's the choke if you want to analyze it Gordon. It's almost, it looks like a figure four guillotine, but Bryce tried to turn out of it. Jesus. I think it started when he was chest to back. Yeah.

1:42:19I think remember that was Bryce's discipline fight because he praised Hitler. It's a figure four guillotine and he tried to turn out what he didn't. Yeah, you're not getting out of your yikes. Yeah, I talked to O'Malley about like what is it about Marab is chain wrestling and seven he was like courteous. He's so he's actually he said Sean said he's fucking strong. He's way stronger than you can imagine like he's just you know, some of these guys have just made a medal. That motherfucker worked so hard. Rob yeah, so hard when DC went to visit him the day after he won after he won the title off of Sean he was running.

1:42:52What the day after DC went to his home in Vegas and he goes, Rob's out running and DC made a video. Can you believe this motherfucker? He's a freak like showed his gym and everything. The day after the fight. So Sunday he went to visit his friend and who just won the title, Marab is running. Well dude, when he was doing, when he was wrestling with the gold medalist, Henry Sayudo, he was winking and saying shit to Mark Zuckerberg, cage side. Yeah. He's like, oh, the fight. Probably picked him up. picked him up I got it all kissed his back and just threw him to the ground last Rob has the best weapon you have the history was cardioe cardioe he's also good it's it's strange and and and what you got to like about him is he's super active where most champions aren't he wants to fight all the time that's a thousand pounds well he trains so hard and he trains constantly and you know when I talk to guys train with him in the gym they look like you can you watch just watch him hit pads his nuts really he gets his everything full blast full blast all the time and so he's gotten acclimated to just this insane workload and he loves it yeah same work rate also he's from a part of the world we're like gorgeous tough yeah that's a tough cuz you have one option one option fight your way out DC was on Chey Chey Chey Chey in sharps and they they're asking them they're like what is about the daggis danians in DC gave a great answer I love the interview he goes it's not that they're better athletes or that they any of that stuff they're not better athletes than we are.

1:44:18It's just they have no other option. So like, because Channin goes, well, your son has all the resources. Yeah. But over there, they have nothing. So my son has all the resources. He's, yeah, he's like, they have to make it where my son can fall back on his dad over there. There's no fall back. So they train their ass off because they have to also the hunger, the dry. That's what I see. Yeah. In Russia, it's supported. Those countries like you get a doctorate boxing and shit like you know you know you get a you get a massive stipend yeah it could beep for when the championship owns like half a Russia yeah that's the award yeah like try to get him to fight again man like he's like why why do I want to do that yeah well to put myself to that plus he's got a way 200 pounds now yeah he's very big his boy Islam's doing I I think Islam way has like two or three left max maybe two left really yeah what makes you think that in his interview he's talked about it really yeah did John John Fitch said when he would wrestle...

1:45:16John Fitch is then a sane wrestler and John's probably 200 pounds walking around. John said in fact he was 205 when I was talking to him and he said when he would wrestle Kobybe, if he could stand up once in practice with him, it was a good day. Jesus. Like that's John Fitch. It is very fascinating what you're saying Gordon that there is a giant difference, a giant difference, a giant difference, a regular freestyle wrestling and control based MMA wrestling. Yeah, it's completely different. the different rules, different scoring criteria, like the takedowns themselves score and the higher amplitude the throw, the more points you score, whereas when you're fighting, especially at the heavier weight, you don't wanna lift the guy fucking over your back multiple times, you get tired, and the more energy the throw, the higher amplitude, the less control you have when you land.

1:46:05Americans just need to adapt to that style. Again, they don't have some secret. It's just we need to adapt our style to it. Yeah, well they adapted early on and that's yes, that's the secret. There's so much to it There's so much to it, but if you look at Doug as many guys they are they are significantly better than the Americans and everyone Riding chest to chest and especially riding chest to back like it's pretty easy to hold the guy down if you just stuff them in half Garden you ride chest to chest, but when the guys start to turtle and they turn away like Could be but the only thing they ever fucked up could be was when guys grand beed on him like a guy I forget who we fought earlier his career.

1:46:43Granby DeFeed time has actually got away. Actually we're versus the whole time. Yeah, and then, but and then Humzot actually follows Granby's pretty well. Like DDP tried one Granby I think it was and Humzot followed through. Yeah. But their ability to ride chest to back and just keep hands on the floor the whole time. So the entire weight, the tire like for like 22 can't see DDP was carrying Humzot's entire body weight. It's also their risk and so they take away their foundations. Yeah, one of the most anxiety filled moments I ever had Callin' a fight was when he got Michael Johnson And when could be got Michael Johnson in a Camora And Michael wasn't tapping, I'm like Please tap, please tap, please tap Cause it was like full on and you can't get out If he wanted to, he could have snapped a shot Was that when he was talking to him saying, come on Yeah, you know I deserved this You know I deserved that shot You know I deserved that shot Tap now, give him what it been like, you know, you're right It was actually interesting in the Humdot fight It was no, and no one talked about this was he actually ended up in bottom position at the end of the fight.

1:47:41Yes. And he ended up in half -guard. He couldn't get up and DDP passed them into mount and then briefly took his back. He fucked it up and he fell off. So everyone forgot about it. But Hamza himself wasn't that good at getting up when he was in bottom position. Yeah, that's good point. He did a really good job at holding the guy down, but when he actually got put in bottom position, it's funny because if he knows how to hold the guy down. So in theory he should be able to reverse engineer that and say yeah, I'm doing this this and this the whole the guy down So I need to deny him the ability to do this this and this but I'll be curious on homelots camp How often guys are getting them where he's working on no, but no, but he is yeah, well that's it That's his his problem.

1:48:23Oh, I don't see me putting himself in those positions. Yes, 100 percent You know another good matchup that's coming boat nickel is Fighting. Oh, I just saw that I forget Yeah, what about what about him is he a really great world champion? He ever seen his body I don't know. He makes place in T -Bo look like a fatso Yeah, yeah, show me red alpha of Yarra's body. You know see Hadovo Three oh my god. This is one of freaky as bodies you've ever seen in MMA and amazing Judicial world class Judicial stuff match up for There's a damn it. Oh that guy's fucking awesome. I saw him at Metamorphos bro. He's a beast He fought somebody he's ridiculous.

1:49:03He's a beast. Yeah, I fucking I'm built for dance This is such bullshit. Look at that. But in MMA, his striking is much improved. He's getting a lot better. He's getting better. Has some experience. It's a good fight for Bo. He's better than fucking a power high. That just shows you how fucking dangerous Fluffy Hernandez is, because Fluffy cooked him. He finished him. Fluffy would be fucking people up. He fucks people up. He brings him. Like someone was calling him the middleweight Marab. And it's like that. Like he melts guys. He melts guys in his dream, because he doesn't have like a world -class background wrestling.

1:49:34and he quit wrestling, I think, his freshman year in high school. So he doesn't have like this extensive wrestling background. Dog. Remember, you and Matt Mitreon, we were backstage and Redolf had a shirt off. And he's just standing like that. When it was, it was at your fight. Me, me, Matt Mitreon knew, and we were both, we were all looking at him like this, just like, like, teenage girls. It's like, the fuck is going on there? Yeah, he has a preposterous build. Proposterous. It's interesting though how he doesn't have a lot of submissions in the UFC. No guys avoid it. Guys avoid it, keep it on the feet.

1:50:10It was like Bouchescha too. He came over, he's doing well in one championship and came over to UFC and he got fucking dealt with man. I love Bouchescha. But it just didn't translate. And then Boudet, the guy beat him, they cut. Yeah. I didn't watch that fight, but from what I understand Bouchescha had a hard time holding him down. He had his back so many times and he was getting high. It's like, but I need to know a lot of things. How does a guy win a fight and then you cut him? Boring. Do you have to see Zer for entertainment? They did that. Was it that boring? That's how you're supposed to fight that guy.

1:50:40I just think he's on with DDP was boring then. I loved it. But I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. But with him, it's, have you wait no finishes? And you had a body of a lunch lady? But we can't sell this. We can't. You don't have to stay with the guy. You don't have a lunch lady in the world. We can't fucking sell it. I'm putting it off of winning against Bouchesha is kind of rough. I agree. They just did a lot of hype coming. They didn't cut them. They didn't resign. That's the same thing. Hey, tomato. Time to boy Dana. I'll be Dana. I would be the worst for that because I'm an I would be like anti -marketing.

1:51:18I would be there's the number system. Let's figure out what the number system is. So number one, the champion always has to fight number two. Yeah. That's a big money though. Yeah. I get it, but I mean I feel like if you want to see the best guys if it's football Hey, hey, what hey, what's this ball or anything like that like you have to you do this and that's how you get you get to the number one You'll see it in correct. I have to be careful over that right not but they make more money than me They'll make way more money than my version which takes place on a football field to you and Eddie That fucking football field and no gloves Are you that with them no gloves?

1:51:52Yeah, there's a volume up kicks allowed kick soccer kicks allowed stomps allowed Pride old pride. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but better got because pride didn't have elbows Which is really bananas when you think about that's what they do the line think with rampage Jackson did do you remember when Ricardo Rona that crazy slam off the triangle. Yeah, now imagine that's okay Like but you can't elbow guy

1:52:20Like like stump like stump Do they even have did pride even have standing elbows? I don't remember name when elbow press all get that is so CROCOP soft or kick on the face. Yeah They're like that's good. That is so crazy. They didn't even allow standing elbow. There's all the line dude They's have headbots you could be in somebody's car and just starting. Oh, no, that was UFC. That was early days They used to do that. Yeah, maybe early days of pride had that. Because early days of pride was like 94. And there was still headbutts back then because I remember when I was working for the UFC in 97, Mark Coleman was using headbutts from the guard.

1:52:57Yeah, with wrestling shoes on. Yeah, come on. Yeah, everybody got on the sauce and Mark Coleman was around side. Everybody got sausage. Everybody got sausage because that dude would hold you down and headbutt the fuck out of you. Do you want to talk about somebody on the sauce when he's look at Mark Kerr in his head? Oh my goodness. Captain America, PSAJ Randy. I was there when... I was there with Kerr. He wrestled one of the eight in college senior year, I believe. And he was two -sixth. And then he was like, this is gay. I was there when I'm going at 285. Kerr would Kerr fought Dan Bulbot and he stuck his chin in his eye.

1:53:31Yeah. Stuck his chin in his eye -socking. The great days. The great days. The great days. Ah! God! I'll tap. Look it. That's me interviewing him. I was with you both sides of that mother. I was with you that that we went to that fight. And we talked to him afterwards. Crazy. How about that picture him next to it? The sad truth. Oh my God. That's crazy. How about the rocket to get on more steroids to play him in a biopic? That's how big mark her was. Did I. Hey, Ron, we need you to play Mark her. We need you to get on more steroids. I hear rock got like they got a eight minute standing on the it.

1:54:06Yeah, 15 lot of weight. He lost a lot of weight. You see them now. He slimmed down. I bet getting that big probably felt like shit. Well, someone's like, Hey, your heart's gonna explode, right? And number two, you got a 50. You're 50. Your heart's working over time. And you don't have the fourage internals anymore. 50. And also he wants different roles. He doesn't want to just play that action. Right, right. Of course. Yeah. They all want to do that. That's why. get in a polythetic that's why he that's right yeah he lost all that way too and people like oh you look so scry now and he was like I'm 64 240 yeah he's like I need I need a break yeah my fucking body like the difference between him at 300 pounds being very unhealthy so much better now man yeah I saw him in an interview recently I love that guy as an actor but the thing that he did on the Jimmy Kimmel show where he was like mocking Trump and like punching the heavywag and calling him Oh, that was bad.

1:55:01Bag of milk. Oh, so cringy. Who is this? Yeah. He's like, you think you're a tough guy? Yeah, fuck dude. Okay. He's 80. What are you doing, dude? He's so cringing the bag. I'm so bad. What is this? Who said you should do this? Have you ever seen this? Because if he wins, this is a bad look. Look at this. I bet you got paid though. I bet he did. It's like Travis Kelsey with Pfizer. Yeah, he's like, do you get like 20? 20 mail. I was making fun of him. They told me I'm what you made. I didn't get it. He was uh, yeah, he probably said give me that Biden dose You know, but he's the head and everything in it.

1:55:29Yeah, what's that? Have you seen it? But he's the head and then that fight. Yeah, one of them. I took right now proud about Jason Big fucking strong He always got to be careful with gravity belts life's that matter. I think which is it? Who's got one that's a little it's a little jizz or is everybody brings up that money bird guy you you try Yeah, friends with Gordon Gordon Gordon Gordon Derek everyone thinks that Derek is gonna go out and beat an ADCC champion. That's just, well, Paul Craig's about to go, of course. Paul Craig's gonna beat up. Yeah. As not now it's gonna work. But I mean, if he trained with like a guy, his, like he's 45 years old, 42 years old, like if he trained with like a 42 year old black belt, he would do the fine.

1:56:11That's all you need to hear. So because everybody was like so against the same world. Because he's rich. But here's the thing, if you're rich and you have discipline. And oh, it's a kale. Yeah, it's bad. That's really bad. I come in and it's coming up. Oh, that was a weird stoppage It was bad. Not really. It was really no no no no. I mean it like he stepped away. Yeah, oh is after the bell Oh, we didn't hear the bell. Oh, yeah, yeah Bukakis had the worst fucking the injury I've ever seen in the UFC really collil round tree side kicked him in the knee remember that It was horrible dude. He totally bent his knees sideways and down Steve you can find that Jamie so we can all come and go and I go and I guess when it comes to giving that rich tree My dust is blocker.

1:56:55I guess when it comes to giving that rich guy the black belt I think for people that do juditsu. It's like there's different levels in a black belt Like if you if you're never gonna compete and he got him what two years it's three and a half It's that's the thing is the time fucking matter like just get better. I just do the belt irrelevant Good point good point. It's like it is explain irrelevant like there's just focus on getting better at juditsu the belts are agree I didn't come up with the market and give him his black belt that's what I'm saying yeah I mean it doesn't I wouldn't give him his black teeth either but the jigsheels did a jigsheels is very legit and and but he said he's a black belt I just take it a face value okay watch this watch this oh bro that's Khalil round three who's one of the nastiest fucking kickers in the sport oh Nia shot oh look at him he's just laying there in agony and you know That's 10 months.

1:57:49Oh, at least he had to get it reconstructed, but now Bokak is his some big ass list Here's the elbow that took Paul Craig out. Oh my god. Yeah, that crazy. How sideways that goes that goes so sideways, dude It just blew it apart But trained seven days a week like this like four hours a day who does Derek That's a lot that's legit. Yeah, man if you've got this is a political legitimate champions And he has like some of the best ability to recall information that I've ever seen like I could I could teach him something I could teach him something Teaching something and I like Later and he's like he's like oh, we worked on this this in this last time It gets you do a black belt as far as knowledge Rolling with you guys, but as far as competition goes like is the ex -accuna in against other guys Like a side -gift.

1:58:41He doesn't compete. He has no aspirations. No, no. He means a training. Like, does he go against other like purple belts, brown belts? Uh, so he trains. He trains with the guys who he comes in the train, the train him. So he doesn't have like a lot of looks. Like he doesn't go like a normal gym and train, which I think is something that's important to do, just for your just personal journey and your Getsu. Yeah. But, but if he like we like we just open the new school, we just open Kingsway. Uh -huh. And we have like we have we have a bunch of black belts who come from other schools. Uh -huh. And you know, He goes against it.

1:59:10And the last like 10 years I'm used to being a like a shitty black belt to me is like a guy I can beat at a world level and I call my submission on that's like my like definition of a shitty black belt. Like so. But they're like, but they're level. Like you know, there's no. But you know, the gym and you see like what your average black belt is that it kind of brings you back to reality. And you're like, oh, this is what most black belts are like if they're enrolled with like a regular black belt in a gym. You do find maybe, right? Because he has he's not doing a psychoan Brian told me to really get tennis.

1:59:37And I said are you paying the inshawks? How do you say that? I'm saying like if you're paying the guy. I train with normal black belts at a gym and I train with Derek when I'm out there. I'm telling you he would do fine against normal black belts. Well, that's what it is. You would know. He's not going to go out in the warm world. But if he had a compete against an average black belt, he's been doing Jiu -Jitsu for 10 years. And he does it for an hour at a random gym in Kentucky. You would hold his own. I mean, you would probably beat him up to be honest. Wayne McCulloch said about me on a radio station.

2:00:09I like they brought it back to you. No, I mean, to his point, to his point, Wayne McCulloch, I put Brian in the back. I laughed, he was saying it. He goes, I put Brian in the ring with anybody. Meanwhile, even a remotely good amateur would be the fuck out right now. It's not just that being the ring with anybody doesn't mean anything. It means you want to watch you get punched. Also, I know what you're doing with Mike Tyson. Also, I never I would spar with these guys if they were good they would take it easy And they move around with the 48 -year -old actor Like he's like like he's a 42 -year -old hobbyist who is worth a hundred million dollars and focuses on making money Yeah, and also trains four hours of that sounds all your discipline Everyone's giving him shit because he used it to market himself and was like you're too fucking stupid to get a Black belt in three and a half years and I'm not that's why everyone's upset about him Well, he does his thing.

2:00:59He does train hard every day. It's a great idea because I had no idea he existed And now I'm defending him. Right? I've defended him based on what you said. He's got a new face on his face. Actually, he's here right now. He did the 10 -30. Paul Craig just retired. Good for him. That's enough. I mean, that guy's been KO'd again. He's a game of times and he's a great guy. He's very smart too. I'm sure. So it gets to a point though, right? Where you get to an age? And by the way, has a fucking submission victory over the champion, Magamanik Ali, of Conor Mother Triangle. His triangle is so tight.

2:01:31It's so quick too. He got on call. Yeah, yeah, with one second. You know dog one second to go in the third round whipped up a triangle and fucking he made Of tap with one second to go. That's how tight it was and had a COVID vaccine the day before that's what's incredible Yeah, yeah, all but Gordon you can see why some people if a guy gets his background two years You're like okay, what's going on three and a half but you're right. You're just actually DJ pet but How much did he really train so like this is the idea that we always say this is what I would say with like when people talk about Jake Paul They say, oh, Jake Paul is fucking YouTubers.

2:02:01This now goes, Paul, push all that away. Yes, but that doesn't mean he can't be good at something. Like, and also the kid was a wrestler in high school in college, legitimate athlete. Like, if I just watched him, if I watched him knock out Tyrone Woodley, just watched him, I'd say that kid's a prospect. He's fun, he's exciting, he's young, he's got one punch go to sleep power. Yes, absolutely. You don't even have all that baggage, but I put up, but that's the baggage is psychological. You look at him like, oh, it's the YouTube guy. Yeah, so a rich guy like a like a money bird guy or a Zuckerberg you say oh he can fuck that guy But if he's got discipline and he can hire the best dreams if he really doesn't and he's tough If he's actually mentally tough.

2:02:42He's an Austin He did the 10 30 to 12 class and then he's taking he's taking three two hour privates with John Carlo Luke and Marigoli That's a legit so you expect some 10 30 until like seven o 'clock night. You can't knock just that and he's also been really successful in something else we apply that discipline. Exactly. Not only that, a workload. If he's doing that many hours and he's doing it every day, it's a lot. This is the Gordon Ryan method, right? Your method has always been not just study harder than everybody else, but you don't take days off. That's a giant factor. It's a giant factor.

2:03:14I've talked about him all the time because that training 365 days a year, you wouldn't take one day off. Kind of nuts. No, no days off. I mean, if I'm sick or I have staff or my legs hurt. I watch. I'm always there thinking about the sport. But Joe, but my thing with Jake Paul is they take all that baggage away. You would still, if this is, if boxing had a belt class system, you would still say Jake is a blue belt with his experience. You wouldn't say he's a black belt. He's not a master of the sport, even though he's dedicated to whatever the last four. But this goes back to my original point, which is just belts are just fucking me.

2:03:51Yeah, this belt thing like like like like like blue belts can be the black belts now. Yeah, I don't like you know It's they certainly kind of they're strong and they're fast and they got tight technique and the black belts got us so it's like It's a really good black Jim I came from there was no blue belt Black belts. I don't know what the fuck What I have a black belt in three and a half years. No, but I also don't have any black belts like my standard for a black belt is like so Unrealistically high that I don't even I don't have a black Have you not given it back, Poked? No, I don't have any.

2:04:18I don't have any. I had this kid that was division one wrestler. I wish I could remember his name because he was a fucking nightmare. Every time I wrote it was so ridiculous. We would do neon belly drills and you know you start with a neon belly and this dude would throw me off him like I was a pillow and then when he would get on top of me and neon my belly I was going nowhere. I was stuck there. We're the same size. We're the same size. He was crazy fucking strong. Now that guy was a blue bell. Do you know what I'm saying? Like he was just a elite wrestler who you just show him a few of these things and he already knows how to move his body and control people.

2:04:52He doesn't have to do a uma plot or a proper high bar. He didn't, his tear off was back. Yeah, he's good at black belt. But he's also been playing his wrestling. He could fuck black belts up. He could because he could pass your guard. He would smush you. He would give you one wrestler, right? He was a D1 wrestler who was jacked. He had this powerlifting routine that he would do. He would not skip powerlifting workouts. He's like, it's the most important part of my game. It was all clean And that's how we're lifting deadlift snatches. It was all that's all he did to the other another We've had D1 guys come in to the academy and they get fucking smoke that can happen to that could have a But this usually that's how it go, but he was training.

2:05:32Yeah, there's been blue belts or purple It's a coming to get fucking starch man. It takes a long time to learn What I'm saying is that this guy loved MMA. Yeah, he was a elite wrestler and he was two years in a jutsu, but he was a blue belt That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so he's a blue belt, but years of experience on a fucking trouble I just gave Jason Nulfis blue belt Jason Nulfis like having matches was like we're not the canuteau like he's like having like May he had match with like tyrantololo like he's having like competitive match and did you give him a blue because they experienced? He's like a world -class wrestler.

2:06:05Yes, that's such a fact. He's like American wrestling legend. I think this is, I've always said this, but I say it again. That's the best base. 100%. If you can dictate where the fight takes place, that's the most important thing. Look at all the champs. Yeah, all fights start striking, but look what happens to a lot of these guys that have striking. And like, did you see when Chaos Williams fought Gustafson? Yes. That fucking Viking dude. No. He just, Chaos Williams is terrifying power. Terrifying one punch just has a highlight reel of starching guys with one shot this fucking Viking Just got a hold of him and just absolutely ragged all to him for three rounds to the point like you felt bad for Yeah, it was just beating the shit out of him like I've never seen it beat the shit out of chaos It's grappling.

2:06:50It's crap. The wrestling is so goddamn important if you can do that and you can hold the guy And you can dictate where the fight takes place. That's number one. It's right even if a fight starts standing It also creates the most champion. It's fucking dangerous. And Gustavson got KO'd earlier today. He got KO'd by that Russian cat. I thought it was gonna be a grappling match. Is Handagovsson? He doesn't have. No, no, no. Oh, okay, I'm sorry. Completely different. Andres Gustavson. But his fucking strength is insane. This guy does one armed barbell snatches with 175 pounds. What? Yeah, that dude.

2:07:22That's what he's got. He's got the strongest guy. Yeah, you can find some video. There's a video compilation of him weightlifting. It's insane. This is him. Yeah, that's not crazy. Look at him. You got to stop today in the first round. What is he, what does he fight at? One seven. Oh my God. So my point is, at least in the chaos Williams fights, good example. The grappling is so goddamn important. It's number one. Number one for sure. Yeah. Number one for sure. Take where the fight goes. I'll keep on the go to the floor. And if you're fighting for 20 years, like you take so much less damage you're gonna strike her.

2:07:55You got to think no one talks to us. It's like look how much damage like a like a beef token is career versus that. Why? But that's why I always say that beef got touched before five times is holding her rear. But that's why I say it's always way more impressive what Izzy's done, what Alex is done. When they're strikers and they don't have an option in grapple and you know they're gonna keep it on the feet and they get to that championship level. That level of difficulty is so much higher than what could be or these other grapplers are doing. Because you know they're not they're only gonna do one thing right for just gonna like per error That's what I'm saying Alex is all they're gonna do they're gonna knock you out Yeah, they have no other other way to win that that's all they're gonna do well But the championship level he was the guy was the most excited about when he came over from glory Because I'm gonna talk about him like dude you gotta you gotta watch this He's our chair and glory man.

2:08:45I just always You always remember from gyms, right? There's always a guy in the gym that you're like, how are you doing that? Like how are you hitting everybody so hard? Like how are you hitting? There's guys who'd watch them hit paths. You're like, okay, what the fuck are you doing different than everybody else? That's a pervert. You bring him hit things, it's like, you see him right hook, that's the gun. You know that punch machine? He got 190 with his right hand. His left hand's his power hand dude. My my dad pan was hurt. Yeah, so he threw a right my Proud that about that about doesn't poor you say doesn't pray nox guys out all the time I know he does some worries of terrific puncher absolutely, but not like there is a different thing man He's like a one in a million guy really the power this guy has is one in a minute It's nuts and he's built he's built like a praying man.

2:09:36He's built different He's built like a fucking alien. Yeah, he's built this high it starts in the middle of this back He is a legitimate Amazon warrior like a legit absolute legit Amazon warrior His family comes from an Amazonian tribe. Oh my god. So he the power this you see a sister. Oh, yeah She's fucking bitches out there. She's fucking good man and technical This is when he knocked out Izzy the first time dude wow to terrifying puncher and then by the time he got to glory He went up from 85 and put some masks on and that's when he started fucking people up when he was it two time glory champion in 85 and 205.

2:10:13God did they fast track him. LFA starts and dude, they put him right in the U .S. Right in the U .S. Starts his micolatus with that flying knee. Oh my goodness. And then starts his Sean Strickland. And then he had that one fight where Bruno Silva made the fucking that dude, I forget who he's fighting. That guy, there's so many guys in here. Like he fought Jason Willness and head kicked him and then flying kneeed him in the head. Jason Willis the world champion dude like an elite world champion. I know they have to have that This is him against Dustin. Check. Watch that left hook one more time one more time That is fucking crazy power dude look at that power.

2:10:54It's just different man There's every now and then a guy you'll see a guy hit the bag You'll see a guy hit pads you see a guy punch someone in the ring and you're like what is he doing different? That's per error like maybe the best example and kickboxing I've ever seen Because everybody knocks guys out they're all killer strikers, but his was different It was a finality to what he did to people look at that. Oh my god. Yeah for rose Jesus grow and these are big -ass gloves, right? Yeah, these are M .A .S .s 14 no no no no they're 10. Yeah, they're tens, but it's still those are also world -class strikers He's not yeah, this is Jason wellness.

2:11:30Oh my god flying me those are world -class guys brought just in the Well, it's a world champion dude. He had kicked him first and then he flying neat him out. Oh my god. Bro, he's not doing the skins. So no grappling. I mean, he had zero grappling. And in fact, he had one MMA fight. He got taken down a renegade choke. So that guy got taken down a renegade choke, which highlights how fucking important grappling is. Yeah, 100%. Danny hooks up with Glover. So that was the big thing. Glover to share a teaches him out of wrestle, at least a little bit. And then slowly over time, you see it getting better and better inside the octagon.

2:12:05Takeout defense standing up. Yeah, that's tough. That's a lot of fun. But then you get to a certain point where there's a not, I don't give a fuck if Gordon's teaching whatever, there's not enough hours in the day to make up that gap when you get to a certain level that you have to try. Like for DDP, there's nothing we can do for him to beat Hamza. There's not enough time in his life to beat Hamza in wrestling. He's not 21 years old. We're like, now you need to get russians in there and they're like, this way you can definitely get better. Yeah, no doubt he can get better, but Hamza does extraordinary.

2:12:31Yeah, he's extraordinary. He said he said he said he wasn't a strength. He said is you think you can't go ahead I think it's possible. I have to pee before I watch this fight because I'm excited about I think one of the worst backgrounds to get into with MMA unfortunately is jujitsu with no wrestling and no striking Yeah, you're fast I think it is the worst because you have no Billy dictate where the where the fight goes. Yep So if you if there's also an agreed upon Unspoken rule in jitsu where one guy plays top one guy plays bottom right right and the way that the point system is set up in Jitsu is that The guy on bottom stays on bottom the guy in top tries to pass so there's a there's a homes out of highlight really here now

2:13:21No, no, it's okay. So go ahead keep going so it's usually Usually the guy on top is patty cake patty cake patty cake opportunity passes scores backs away patty cake patty cake passes scores. So did you guys ever actually focus on holding anyone down? Which is why when they actually go to fight people, they just have zero to build and keep them in bomb possession. And if you look at the finishers, like people are, people are minimalist in jujitsu, whereas the ideal for jujitsu is a maximalist. Like you do the minimum amount of work to win. So they pat a cake pat a cake side control three points and they stole for the rest of the match Whereas whereas if you actually go in and you look at guys who Actually work towards finality then you have guys who are actually good finishers and so if you just combine all this like even Hidalpha versus that guy fluffy Is this yeah like he got to good positions like he now that we took his back multiple times But he spent this whole career just winning on points So he actually went to finish him like there's like it's just you don't have to It's kind of fascinating that the rules set kind of, it really kind of ruined a lot of what made you get to important.

2:14:29Yeah, like rules set. The number one thing that no one talks about in my career, which separates me is the fact that when I put people in bottom position, no one ever stands up. And if they do stand up, they've used so much energy standing up that I wasn't even worth the stand up in the first place. Like everyone that I fight knows my passing is so good. And they know that my pins are so good. Like I know if they if I get chess a chess and half garden past them I'm gonna finish them So everyone's like I'm fucking getting up like I spent like I fought Andre I fought Yuri I fought all these guys like no one everyone knows if I'm in bottom position I'm gonna get my guard past him again my guard past me that finish so like I need to get up like my life depends on it Nobody even gets close And so like and if they do it sounds like bragging, but that's a hundred percent true It's like, I fought Wagner like you're there.

2:15:18Like Wagner tried his absolute horse to stand up when he was fresh. And just if you look at he fought everybody else fought Craig fought everyone else he just kicks away kicks in the hips He fought MMA kicks in the hips stands up and he's back up And so it doesn't allow you to keep pressure over time. I just put him on bottom and they just never got away And then the one time he did get away It was so late in the match. It was so exhausted that I just let him up and then I just put him back in bottom position So no one talks about the fact that I can hold people down, but the number one issue with classical jiu -jitsu guys is that they never spend any time holding people down.

2:15:48So when they, first of all, they can't take them down and if they do get on top, they just stands up. Yeah. Yeah. And also no striking at all. So going into with that, going into MMA with no ability to take guy down, no real experience in holding guys down. And then, and no finishes. So even if you even if you jump guard for example right on bottom because you never spent your time Actually working on like submission finishing mechanics, right? This guy can't even finish him from bottom position Because you win Jiu Jitsu tournaments. It's only with attempt to submission. Yeah, they just get mount So you're on top which is unlikely because you can't take the guy down It's it's unlikely you're gonna hold top position and even if you're on bottom position You're not danger enough to dangerous enough to actually finish the guy So it's like classical jiu -jitsu is just getting phased out and we call it scrimmage wrestling What the daggestani guys are doing is is going to be phased in like they just I like how someone was mocking you about Scrimmage wrestling and then it cut used on a by Nikki like I'm not you I'm not denying it's wrestling It's just a different kind of wrestling and if you look at every historical piece of information like you look at Aaron Pico took the guy down He's amazing, you know classical American wrestler couldn't hold him down.

2:17:02And then Hamza was like the next match. He takes the guy down, rides in the hole, like had 23 minutes on top. The only reason he didn't have like a full, almost 25 minutes was because he got stood up, like, you know, midway through one of the rounds. I think it was like 23 minutes of control time. Like I'm not saying it's not wrestling, it's just a different kind of wrestling. When you teach Giu Giu Giu, like when you start with somebody, do you start from, what is the system? How do you start? Are they on the bottom first? But before you get to that, This scrimmage wrestling thing what I was getting to do is like something was mocking that I was like Why are you mocking a term like what are you trying to pretend?

2:17:34He doesn't know what he's talking about like it seems crazy But then the exact same thing got done to him. Yeah, correct He was like oh like I got done to him in the match with Nikki Rod. That's hilarious It's like everyone everyone just think you could just come in as a collegiate or freestyle wrestler and dominate and that's just not the way like There's so many things in wrestling that work perfectly There's so many things that don't work at all there's so many things that don't make sense to do like a fireman's carry Like you hit a fireman's carry next thing. No, the guys in crucifix on you right there.

2:18:00He has your back You're gonna try and go on a fight. Do you remember when big daddy good rich fought Paul Herrera Paul Herrera took him down got him in a fireman's carry and big daddy good rich locked his legs up locked his arm up and elbowed 50 million times in the head it was fucking great. So never do a fireman's carry And it was back when there was but it was here it is look at this watch this is back when there's no tapping either Look at this. Oh my god. I remember this. He was out right away. The referee should have stopped this 80 elbows ago. I mean, he's 10. Brought the way. Stop. Bro, bro, bro, they added extra to it.

2:18:35Did they add it? It's just 50 elbows. I know because there are the repeats itself here. I could just, but what is the actual number? Let's see if we can find the actual, just try find big daddy. Good rid. Oh, shit. We're watching Mauricio Rufi and save DeNi. It's already started. Well, these are nice. Oh, Rufi just popped in with a jab. These comedy motherships are garbage a nice bubble. Yeah, it's foundation cigar shout out to them Okay, like now's this now this connection like take down scores nothing now Can he actually hold them down from this position? Well, Saint Denis is pretty good at holding guys down I mean clearly not on your level of it But he does have a very pressure and so you look like ruffy that didn't even try He just accepted bottom position.

2:19:13So it was like there was like there's no like now he's trying to get up But he's already guys got it's a great game playing by oh Sentinitis is huge for him full -mount already the question guys cardio. Where's that? Out oh look at that he's going for the arm triangle. He's going hard for it look at this and if he look at the Oh my god, I think he's gonna get it's called let you dip out there bro look it doesn't that's a milk really you just Barry is going to bury him in his teeth. I thought that was when you smother a guy. Yeah, that's what that's what it looks like No, this is arm triangle. He's he's isolating the right arm.

2:19:43What do you do come out that single leg double leg? that the Munch of double double legs to waste up to a rear up to a body. Marisa is almost up. Nope. He's got a lot to try and go. Oh, he's got his back now. Now he's got power half where he's going to get taken up. Geez. This is terrible for Roofie. He should have went in power half. I can stand up. Just stand up, Bob. What did he do instead of power half? He just, he stayed with two hands over the shoulders. And then the guy just kind of misaligned the body. Okay now so see like he had to take down and he he couldn't hold them down Right and now they're back at their feet and Ruth's roof.

2:20:23He's fucking dangerous at a distance dude Look at that nice knee to the body. He's danger Oh nice. Do you know how mentally fatiguing it is to put a guy down and not be able to do any damage? And then it's not just physical. It's like mental. It's like I put these guys down and then he fucking got up on me I couldn't do anything to him He's like some special forces French guy Yeah, what is his exact military? Like what did what his experience? Whatever their fucking Delta team is over there. Is that what he is? Oh, he's one of those guys. Yeah, but there's a franchise no joke. He's no just do is no joke He's an intense motherfucker.

2:20:57He was thanking America for helping France and World War two and one of his post -fight speeches Like I love America you helped us in World War two like So he's guys back again. He's got a French army special for him down again Yeah, yeah, so far this is not a good round for Rufi So now we know about Rufi's grappling because what we've seen from him is just well also sentin is a beast He's a beast. Yeah Now now you got full -mount again. Who if you can survive this arm triangle arm triangle? He's trying to get in by BDS Gordon. You guys start with like a traditional guard Triangle you sir, so what what what what what what kind of athlete am I trying to build?

2:21:40Oh? It depends. Elite Brian Calon. It's Brian Calon. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm trying to build an athlete from the ground up, and I have time to work with them, I always start them in bottom position. Right. On his back. Bottom position is the hardest to learn. Most people start standing. Standing is actually the last thing I teach them. Really? I start, yeah. Because if you can get good submissions and get off -balance from bottom position, good guard retention, and good escapes, pin and submission escape. It says it's the first thing that I do. So, like, I'm more guys asking you to come in the camp.

2:22:15He's yelling at something. He's complaining about something. Rufi is complaining about something. See, he's holding the glove. See, he's holding something. Yeah. He's holding shorts. I'm not asking you to train like a new port. No, he was in Sweden. I'm like, I'm not going to Sweden right now. He does the camps in Newport now. Yeah, it's not too bad for you. Yeah. Okay, so he trained hard to be great. He had his hands in his shorts Yeah, he can't be doing that. He's holding on to the shorts. I think is that what he's saying Jamie? Hopefully he's grabbing his dick. Hopefully he's proud. That was a fight once a bit with big daddy good rich as well He fought this dude the Pedro and he reached his hand into the guy's junk and fucking crush his nuts No, yes, he did it was legal to Brazil in Brazil Yeah, there was no reason back then he reached his hand and crushed the man of balls How bad do you want to win bitch?

2:23:08Oh God is it true that is just just a is this bullshit or when Did he Dracus duplacia had his finger and comes us ass Is that true or comes out? Take talk a lot. I'm sorry Okay 50 seconds left I like that swing in But he's got to be so exhausted now and now he knows he can't get taken down. Yeah. Never seen Rufy like this before, man. This is interesting. I was supposed to like this. Well, I mean, you got to think of the guys that's hunting is fought too. He just fought Dustin Porje. Oh, yeah. Strength of schedule. St. Denise way higher. We're not to Moicano. Yep. He's fought some pretty elite guys.

2:23:55He lost him. I kind of right? Yeah. He got beat up. He does. But you see like even this like when you're standing there's so much less that has to go wrong for a good guy to get beaten by a guy Who's not much lesser like when you're grappling someone so much has to go wrong in order to lose The guy who's right lose worse than you so like if he if he took him down in the first 30 seconds of the round and he remained in top position Like they're just riding him there would have been like almost zero danger in the round Which is like what could be even homes out there? Correct. Whereas in this guy's last 50 seconds, you're here.

2:24:27You're not there to get knocked out. If you're on the ground, you've got to get a lot of shit that has to be wrong to get to get to get beat. Especially when you're tired. That's the thing. It's like you have to make choices. Do I move now? Am I too tired to explode out of the way? I see him winds it up, so I try to duck. What do I try? You don't have that. When I Toma fought Dillion White, they in and out footwork. Wow. Well, that like after something like that, that shit's gone. right? So you can't really get out of the way that's what he's like. Yeah. Like let's do even if I don't finish them, let's drain this fucking gas tank so it's foot works not as good.

2:25:00So he's not as dangerous on the feet. But there's such a good test for Huffy because he really hasn't beat those high caliber guys yet. Such a good test. Here's a real question. Do you think that what guys like Marab and then Fluffy as well? But maybe to a slightly lesser extent. Do you think what they're showing is that just like some people can do those 100 mile races that like Goggins and Cam Hens does and that we think that a marathon is hard but it's just because that's all you've trained for. But guys like Cam do a marathon literally every day. It's just you gotta go past where you think the boundary is and a guy like Marab can keep that kind of pace up for five minutes because he's in that 100 mile running.

2:25:41You know what I mean? It's like is he genetically gifted where he can do that? He's just all mental. He says not. He says he used to say that. They say that like pre -fantane those guys have harder bones in their feet and stuff like that. That's also from use though. Yeah, that's from use. That's the same kind of thing. Yeah, you get that from kickboxers. Yeah. You get that from way lifters. Oh, because I'm. Oh, Tandini, I'm sorry. I'm going to say his hands are down a lot of times. He's close. Oh, we just got elbow hard. It's hard. He got elbow hard. He's tired. He does get reckless. Well, he's a very violent man.

2:26:13Yeah. But here you go. You got to down again. He's down to trade. He's got it. He's down to trade. Oh, Rufy reversed him. Oh, this is huge. That means he's tired. So he's like, that's what I was talking about. It's grimaging. Yeah. Rufy, which was like, I'm not accepting. And every previous take down, he's like, I'm accepting bottom position. That's time he was like, I'm not getting put on bottom. And he just kept moving into ladies and top position. And now he's getting a little stand up. So every time this happens, oh boy. Ben Walson's more and more trouble. Yeah. He's just got to be clean here and just don't get wild.

2:26:44But Ben Walson, he's your big trouble. So he's kicking with his hands down. You see the clear and possible. There's going to be a cut between these guys and the guy like could be. Yeah. Yes. St. Anie tried to take him down in the first round and try to finish him in the first round. So he had more submission attempts and more work towards submission a lot more than a guy could be would. But now he's a lot more tired. Like could be even hums out, spend the first like, if it's a five round fight, the first like two to three rounds. Feel it. Just riding the guy like there's no submission attempts there the sole focus is keep the guy down control I'm making a carry body.

2:27:21You know see this is the thing if you get to like 155 pounds and you're a striker, you know That is at the weight where like most these guys can knock each other the fuck out like if this guy fought Ilya Toporia he get knocked fuck out right and or he could knock Ilya the fuck out like it's so tight when you're at like a championship level and you're that fast and hit that hard. That's a wild game. What you're saying Gordon is like it's so important for people to hear because that is the clearest pathway to success. Like complete control on the ground. It's the least amount of damage you take.

2:27:57Right. The safest post career. Correct. Yes. Santini, look at this. Look at this. That's tight. Look at this. Look at this. Not fun. He's got a time to and a half minutes to fuck that he's got to pull the hand down. He pulls the head This chin He's battling it. Oh, that is close though Jack. Oh He's putting the squeeze on the jaw That's got that's just oh He starts turning belly. Oh, he's out. He's out. Wow Ben was saying to me that is the biggest win of his career. Yeah, oh right in French. Yeah, that's a huge win Four in the road that is fucking that's the first loss for the fighting nerds Yeah, and that's a big one man.

2:28:39That's a big one Viva. How Ruffy was the ninja, you know Ruffy was the guy that hit Bobby Green with that wheel kick Yeah, and Ruffy was the one. Yeah, he's got to be feeling it right now I mean that's his boy and then is and then the captain of the nerds is fighting the main event Then why just start shooting at the ground he could have turned out because he's actually budging against defense So he wouldn't have been able to follow that's a fucking beast man town bro that dude's a fucking beast for him. Good for him. Yeah, he's a beast. And the thing is, it's like you didn't get deterred from his losses either.

2:29:11You know, he gets beat up by my conno, didn't get deterred, beat up by Dustin Poirier. He looks like those. Then he wins that last one. That last one, he didn't look great. Strong mind. Look great. And I took it on a short notice. Did you do that to Rufi? That's big. That's big for him. I wonder what maybe we don't know how good Rufi is. You know, well, we know he's got to be a standing, you know, Yeah, he just got submitted and he was working on his wrestling a lot. I think here. Well, he's he started his back Rums judo initially. He's grappling really good. He's grappling. You know, not fighting him and made that long.

2:29:42He's only been fighting him and made for a few years. Wow. Really? Oh, yeah. And really didn't start striking until later. Yeah, he's kind of a freak man. I asked him at a post post fight speech. I said like how did you get so good so quick? I thought maybe like you'd have some insight. I don't think he understood what I was saying. But that is kind of remarkable. Uniquely violent man, you know? It's used to have violence. Yeah, it's a different level of understanding of violence. But what did you pull up his background, Jimmy? What is his background? Look at his shooting people. Look at this and cut and throw.

2:30:14Yeah, he's an angel. I can't fuck you up. First Marine Infraredgey Paratroopers Regiment, unit of the French Army Special Forces Command. He served as a French Special Air Service operator in Mallyt during the war. and more generally in West Africa fighting terrorist groups. That's an elite motherfucker, right? Fighting terrorist groups. Bokeh Haram and stuff. Terrorists groups in West Africa. Yeah, he's very fucking right. So that's why he's so fucking vile. Yeah, and he's only started in, uh, 2007, 2017, well, I think he had a judo career before that though. This is, I think he did judo first, right?

2:30:51When he was younger, didn't he? Does it say anything before that? Yeah, practice judo. Yeah, had a good level father. His mother was a teacher. His father was a French army officer of practice judo. So he trained in judo in France and Germany. Yeah, a lot of age of eight. Okay, yeah. Yeah, at the age of eight, and learned a black belt. Doesn't say at the age of eight, he got a black belt. It said he beginning at the age of eight, and then he earned his black belt. He played football and rugby in his youth. So he's a beast. Let me stop. I'm a fucking violent soccer. Yeah, football. Yeah, violent.

2:31:25He's been moving his body on a high level for a long time. Yeah, violent dude. Rugby. Yeah, he's also killing dudes in West Africa. Yeah, killing dudes in West Africa. Yeah, if you're an S .A .S. guy like that, you were doing that for a long time. Yeah, and he looks like it. Yeah, like when you talk to him. Yeah. Yeah. It's a very different consideration. Also, by the way, when you're in more time like that, you're not as nervous. You don't expend a lot of energy with the nerves beforehand. You have more energy. Well, it's like what you've seen is so much worse than what you're about to do, right?

2:31:54You're just gonna go into a fight. Yeah, it's probably the only job that you can do You know an actual combat Which gets you to fight the juice you have to see your like that's what happen. Yeah Like name another job you can do where it's gonna get you ready like that. Yeah, everything's a step down Nothing. Yeah, that's the only thing it's gonna make you calm Having survived war is then fighting in the octagon is a cake walk. Yep Especially to make it in that elite division. Well think about what Francis went through. You know, think about what that guy went through. Did he walk through the desert?

2:32:25Walk through the desert like seven times, dude. They kept arresting him and bringing him back to the desert. Fuck. Yeah. They try to, they literally try to kill you. Yeah. They try to take you when they capture your Morocco and then drop you off deep in the desert. And then every time you get a ride back, God. He did it seven times. Over like a long time, like over a year, a year and a half or something is a homeless person. There's not gonna be a morocco in that guy. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's been through that. I thought the desert fuck face. He was living outside with like a tarp. And then when he got to France, he told me he was living in a parking garage.

2:32:57He was sleeping in a parking garage. Yeah, he can't compete. How about his fucking luck, right? His son passes away, which is horrible. I'm thinkable. And then he's riding a motorcycle, hits a young lady. She passes away. Yeah, it's fucking terrible. Horrible. It's so scary. I bet it's like think about what that guy's been through and then like what what is a fight for him? You know, yeah, but even he after the steep Amy O 'Chitch fight he was kind of fucked up in the head And like when he fought Derek Lewis like barely engaged. Yep. We thought that fight was gonna be Kate Bro, we're like here.

2:33:30We go like this one's gonna be Kate. I think my prediction was this one go past two minutes Yeah, I thought it was just really be hammer like the modern day Jason Alexander and Kimbo. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. That was a very disappointing fight, but then he came back after it started starching fools again. Who did knock out first? Was it Junior or Kane? Junior, right? Junior Dos Santos. Yeah. He beat the brakes off of Junior and then he KOed Kane. Well, Kane's leg. And he KOed Curtis. Did he hit him first and then Kane's leg went or did Kane's leg go and then get hit? I think he hit him with an upper cut and his and his cane had some knee problems for quite a while Yeah, you know, I mean the cane's body kind of like was not strong enough for his mind Well his uh his So what's it wasn't a spine and a cage?

2:34:22I think they had to do some crazy surgery on it Yeah, but the most important right now he had a butt. Yeah, they posted a picture of a Yeah, he's a great beard. He likes how long how long is he in prison for? He's supposed to get on I want to say January It's crazy that they made him go to jail at all and any more than he already went. Yeah, it's just because he was I mean shot the wrong guy Yeah, I shot the the step that was also a creep, but he was firing the gun into the public places like on the highway So it's going into that shit. Can't have that so that's where they got it. I can't have that.

2:34:52Yeah, that's a bad idea Yeah, you don't want to encourage that also if I'm can I have his skills that fuck a gun, dude Don't you want to hurt this dude with your bare hands? I think you want to kill him. Yeah, do it with your hand I mean I at least planted a little better. Yeah, like if you planned that a little better They may he may have gotten off I think it was rage. I think he found out and he just went on to go kill this guy Yeah, for sure. I mean how could you not Understand I get it, but he didn't kill the guy and I was in jail. It's yeah, I know that's true And the guy got out before can did the guy was out in the street before came like if you're gonna kill the guy fucking put him in the same way So block his cane Here's your new roommate.

2:35:30Enjoy this guy like that. It has to be unprotective custody, right? They'd have to hide him. Yeah, you touch kids. Yeah, you touch kids. Yeah, they they want to get you Yeah, but even when he gets out he's out now he gets going hiding the street to get him Especially Kane the way he's connected good luck, but enjoy the rest of your life you fucking creep Yeah, it's a horrible horrible horrible story I don't think she ever get out, but So Kane backed his physical issues. Like he had like shoulder problems, knee problems, back problems, neck problems. And it was just like that guy trained so hard.

2:36:06All those boys, the DC, Koby, Rock, Roll, Rock, Rock, Rock, they just tossed him, like the team was a good, they were so good to him. And he's like such a lion's den, you know, such a young Makachev was there, like a monster. Yeah. Yeah, and if you just think about like Kane in his prime, I'm though like when you beat Nog, best heavyweight ever, I think one of them, the real travesties that we never got to see Kane versus Fedor. And that prime, that was the real travesty. That would have been the fight. You know, that is, you know, that's the, that's like the fight. That's the one where you go, yeah, if there was one fight I could have made, yeah, that would have been it.

2:36:43Kane in his prime versus Fedor in his prime, because their primes overlap too.

2:36:50Well, Fator was kind of towards the end though, but he's still good. He was still pretty fucking good when he came. When came was coming up and came became the champ. Fator was still Fator. How would Fator do now, you think? But he's, you know, in, oh, if you say is young Fator, young Fator's going to fuck people up in any generation. Now you look at the Hillary division, like you have asthma. He's speed, hard drop off. Like the heavyweight's never been. However, we don't even know how good Aspen all is. Like every fight he said. And the poor guy in the port he just became champion at the wrong time.

2:37:17There's just nothing for him to prove himself. He's also so much bigger like I got a small is his frame is so much bigger than Fedor's I think right? He's a lot of fun. Big guys. Yeah. He's a lot bigger. But he's a lot bigger but Fedor was a special fighter. He's special to you need to watch like his defense. I'm a friend of Procop. You see the cop they're both the prime. He was throwcock was throwing those power high kicks and he would lift his knee all the way up here and catch it. He was catching a lot of the body cuts on his knee. He was his defense and that fight was amazing. There was somebody made a compilation of Fador's defense that fight like when Kroka hits him with a body kick, he takes out his his supporting leg.

2:37:59He was so good in his and he gets to submit guys like that too. He catch arm bars out of nowhere. Like he had a fully multifaceted game. Probably the best so explosive too. The best guy in the heavyweight division ever that could do that that can transition from a knockout blow to a triangle choke or an arm bar just like that. Like when he catches arm bars he would catch them boom. They were so fast so fast. He was probably the best heavyweight ever of that. Don't you think? Yeah, the guys would do both of those things like lightning with lightning speed. He was so good dude. Those no garafites.

2:38:37Oh my god. That was when no gear was a prime son No, Gary was in his prime and the Fedor just could not be denied his ground in pounds fucking terrifying Best you're the best. He was never he thought he thought um or Lofsky who was training with Freddie roach and a fliction boxing was great And then Fedor just caught him and no our lofty was winning that I know, he caught him in the air with a picture perfect right hand. He'd walk out like he just finished playing cards. We wouldn't even warm up, he just walked out like I just finished playing cards. I'm going to beat this guy. Even in mid battle, dude, his expression would never change.

2:39:15You just seen that red slow motion when Kevin Randleman's throwing him on his head. Just relaxed mid -air. He's all right. Been here before. Never freaked out and then it was in a minute he come over and then isn't it weird as brother just wasn't as good No, it's brother with a water of killing people

2:39:36Brother a better tattoo It's brother to connect to of the grim reaper hole in the baby. Yeah, yeah, we've ever seen that Darts Gary shit. Yeah, there was a lot of dark tattoos. I do He was scary remember when he fought James Thompson James Thompson came out Scrooge him Thompson the animal he came out fucking raw and male a million echo just picked him apart There was another big Brazilian cat too remember that other dude that he flatlined in a similar way big Brazilian guy Who's a heavy way I know you remember that I don't know his name, but yeah, but he flatlined that guy too watching what it takes to He does now.

2:40:15I think he was in legal trouble. Who was this? Oh, Fator, a million echo. Fator's brother apparently is a wild guy. Yeah, he got into trouble. He's a wild guy. He surfs them time. I think Fator is super close to a Putin. So, he probably calls him and is like, hey, my brother fucked up again. Is there any way? Maybe. I don't know, because the Chechni and Guy was mad at him once. Card off? Yeah, Card off. He was mad because Fador criticized them having young kids fight each other. Oh See Homs out he got us belt and flew back to Chachnet and gave that war load the belt And he was wearing it like he was like thanks to it.

2:40:55Yeah, yeah Yeah, that guy's been sanctioned by like more countries than any other ruler like he's not While guy to be friends with yeah, yeah, I would imagine like the biggest mafia or juicy hidden Homs out roll no Bro, how about Homs out in Serookian rolling? Yeah, Serookian is very good. That's the guy that Tuporia is gonna have all the problems with. All the problems. Yeah, it's Serookian. It's just stuff that's stuff that's stuff that's stuff that's stuff. Well Serookian will still be favorite though. Really? Really? You think you're gonna be favorite? No, I know he is. Tuporia will be. Yeah, I think he's got two erasers.

2:41:33Yeah, he's got two erasers. Any group wrestling? Yeah, I'm Serookian. I can also strike there on his wrestling. Oh, not like it's right. It's pretty good. It's tracking is good. Not as good. Nobody on this plant would say it's as good as to appear I think I think we're gonna say problems. Yeah, would you put your money on on to poor you that fight? Uh, I want to put money on that. Yeah, I say we took it to poor you. I listen to true King knocks people out. He's very good Striking. Yeah, but what to poor you has is that weird power. Yeah, the same thing we were talking about prayer He's got that weird power.

2:42:04He does get hit though that but he does get hit but he wants to get hit He wants to throw himself in there so he can get those counters off because he knows when his land. It's over. So in that sense, you haven't seen those kind of fight. Look what he's, he stopped three legends in a row. Legends, legends, in a row. Shot him off. Max Hallways never been knocked out. It's one of the greatest three fight wins. This is good. Strike, I think through again, I would probably say for through again, wrestling will get the job done. We're not talking about it. And it might be a boring fight. We're not talking about wrestling, dude.

2:42:33to go from striking to go from knocking out Volkanovsky to knocking out Max Holloway to knock out Ovarra that is the greatest three fight win streak in history of sport. Okay, O's all flat lawns. That's different. But Saryukian doesn't get hit a lot. He's a really good wrestler. His transition is big for the weight class, which is probably why they fucked up in the last one when he got pulled from the fight. That's right. Because he's probably We cut in too much weight. But the knock on Suerca would be when he fought Charles Oliver who Tupir just starched is if that was a five round fight, he probably would have lost him.

2:43:11Interesting. Look at this. But Suerca is definitely as tough as a slow mo K -O. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah, twice. Bro, like nobody's ever done that to Oliver like that at 55. The last time he got K -O'd like that was Cubswanson probably. Old school. Remember that? Yeah. That's right. There was a time where all of all of our was just not all in he just wasn't like fully Focusing I'm right that won't you show signs of quit your father? He found it. Yeah, I'm interesting like psychological study Yeah, most most guys that at that level that quit like that Overly like I don't make it. It never comes back.

2:43:49He's the one guy turned it around and I held it against him forever I never picked them. Once I know a guy that's quitted, I'm out. I never picked them. And then he kept rooting me wrong. He's an extraordinary case, very unusual case. So Saurukian and Tabori, it would be the fight. But the thing is, I almost think the general public doesn't know enough about Saurukian. That's true. I almost would say, like, listen, you fucked up, you didn't make way. You're probably a little too big, fella. Why don't we give you one more content? They did that put on a show they're giving them a fight with a pretty good Not giving think it's hooker.

2:44:27That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one Is is that that's a good one who is hookers a dangerous guys? This is gonna be a five -rounder. I don't know who is hooker Dr. I'm taking this some D water. Yeah, that hooker poorie fight. That's an all -time class crazy That was a class five -round made event. Oh, there it is. Oh, you have seat guitar guitar. Guitar is bringing that loop. Damn. What is hooker ranked right now? He's in the top 10, I believe. What is Dan Hooker ranked? What is Dan Hooker ranked? Dan Hooker's, he's another one of those dudes. He's my CTV. He's a dog. He's a guy who do bare knuckle.

2:45:09Yeah, he'll do anything. Yeah, he's down for whatever. He got the win over the towel. That was a great fight. Yeah, he was scheduled to fight Justin Gachi Early this year before withdrawing due to hand injury. Yeah, he heard his hand remember pulled out. Yeah That's right. He's a dog. I watched that Strickland fight with with that in love. Yeah, wow Rock him robot. Strickland Meltz got he do he puts a pace on guys I love the way he fights fuck he constantly puts pressure on you and he's constantly got you moving backwards hard to hit Slips you know all that what Gordon is talking about with grappling strictly employees a lot of that same sort of strategy with a striking Like he keeps you backing up all the time.

2:45:52Yeah, there's a there's a factor to it Obviously you Prayer knocked him out. He's more susceptible. He's not in control the situation when you have wild strikes coming your way But by always having you back up. You're gonna get way more tired. Nobody runs backwards He's a pressure fighter. Yeah, it's right near where he's a pressure fighter But he doesn't have the power you know like he's a pressure fighter to call you look be a look at Nick Nick and Nate Nick and Nate did the same thing like they're not guys out left and right but they just constantly walking you down And they have better cardio Yeah, and it's that the thing is it's like all he has to do is just keep hitting you at 50 % Yeah, if he hits you a lot of 50 % and really hard to hit man I was gonna say it shoulder roll thing.

2:46:32Yeah, I'm surprised he's not taking down more But his take that defense. He's way harder if you look at if you look at most of the champions They have one thing that they're better than almost everybody else in the world that and they're good sufficiently good at everything else. Yes, Strict one's not better than than anybody at anything like he's not the best striker He's at the best rest of the way is it but he just has pressure right like there's so much so much can be said Yeah, just walking I get guy guy down. Yeah, I'm putting pressure now. Obviously like a guy like parrero is used to it So he countered him as he was coming in but like for most guys He just walks and down and puts pressure like dude could be could be just like literally walks that guy See I see a handful like look at the could be versus Edson Barbosa Like you knew that Edson wanted to keep him at range to kick in so he literally he literally just walked at him So that Edson couldn't shuffle back fast enough and he was a hundred percent exhausted like inside of a round They're two.

2:47:23Yeah, this is this is exciting. It's very exciting I spent a lot of pressure on him on Valve fighting in France And plus you know if you put on a good performance you can fight for the title. Yeah, you're next like Dana Didn't commit because he's a visia a four man middleweight tournament He's not committing so he's letting them put on a show. He's saying who wants it more right? He's a big way decision which most these guys aren't finishers these two aren't well him knocking out out of Sonia like that was crazy I did not expect that I thought that was gonna be a close fight. He's every bit of six three.

2:47:56He's a big boy Did I watch the contender for the first time? I never watched that. It's so great. You've never seen it before? I never have. It trumps. Ultimately. It's my close. Did you see it? My boy, Shumpo Lebozaneani got in there and his dad had been training forever. I know. His dad had been training since he was seven. There's a video of him doing it. And just to watch that kid, he wanted to do everything else. His dad goes, no, you're going to wrestle and you're going to fight and he made it to UFC fucking jujitsu sick. We'll see. Well, this guy's coming into his own, you know, it's like I think the Strickland fight taught him a lesson.

2:48:36Him a yeah, because it takes so long to put so much pressure on him. And he's got that he's got a weird style to where he throws that teap from the front foot. Yeah, Strickland is like constantly teaping you, constantly got you move and he moves back really well and punches a throw down him. And he's got his hands like this. I want to see how he's got. I'm not strictly I'd love to see that fight. What is you think fighters the fight? Typically like what depends what weight class? Yeah, well so wild when they're like really lightweight and they're still in it like Volkadowski Yeah, like out usually after 30 at the lighter weights.

2:49:09What is this? Disadskied the both now and he right this so watch this you see that knockout. Yeah, he won by knockout I'm gonna check this out Jimmy. I'm gonna send you a video right now This kiss is not again. He threw that kick off with a punch of the kick and punch at the same time. Jamie. I'm gonna send you something See that see how he did that came over the top. Yeah, no, he throws the jab and yeah, I threw it over the top But he did the jab and the kick at the same time

2:49:36Stylebender does a lot and and he practice that's a such a slick move There's a video of him practicing that move with his dad That's nice Boom oh my goodness. That's nice Yeah, I can tell your series is awesome. It's very good. Yeah, and look how many guys have come out of that and they're now fighting in the UFC So many Dude how about that UFC paramount deal? Yeah, it's crazy great. It's a lot of money What is it like seven billion dollars for seven years? No, it was it was it because they see is it seven billion? Well, that's Jamie what do you do? I'm Brian you're in the middle of it You don't have to walk over to Texas.

2:50:18Yeah, don't you know it's some number? Air drop them or some shit like so you see this move watch watch watch this watch when he's a kid like this with his dad Look at this. Oh, that's crazy now watch this ready here doing is this is when he's in first grade now boom That's crazy. How cool is that? Well those guys that do have that like traditional karate back on the thing that has a black body in particular is that you're not really getting hurt and you're throwing a lot of kicks and you learn leg dexterity and it's like especially like Taekwondo you learn leg dexterity that regular people don't have.

2:50:53It's like just how you're talking about like there's a level of cardio that you would need to run a marathon and then you think oh that's about as good as anybody could ever get and then there's guys that come along to run 100 miles. There's also that with what you're seeing with MMA with cardio and MMA but it's also that with everything. It's that with like grappling with striking with kicking with everything. We're used to like a certain level of it, but if there's If a leak like Taikwondo guys really figured out boy tie and then wrestling and grappling of You're in trouble. Yeah, like these guys they can throw wild wheel kicks at you and spinning side kicks to the body And it's the thing and their time Because they've gotten way past the level that everybody else right?

2:51:36That's right. Yeah, I think he rolled with you didn't he? LeBosniani didn't he he was like 17 though. You probably don't remember but he was very complimentary obviously. He's your J2. Eddie brought something out. That kids J2 is so crazy though and now he's in the UFC. We have Gordon Ryan's Abu Dhabi belt right there. Don't add to the studio. Look at that son. I have somebody now just giving out his gifts.

2:52:08If someone out there some doctor fixes Tommy please fuck you have you have one and then I'm waiting they have I'm waiting like I'm gonna give Trump one. Oh, wow It's hilarious. That's hilarious Joe. How many people it's gold? Love it's gold. How many people are hitting you up for those white house tickets? Oh quite a few hey Yeah, how much your boys over here? You probably won't pass any contest that need to get in there. No, we've been to the white house Chop and I've been to the White House Who invited you to the White House some guy who is a back in the day? He was a fan, but he was a secret service guy.

2:52:43Oh wow. I was all up in there. Yeah, all the When Obama was weird. Yeah, yeah That's why that's why was when Bush did That's why What is all this talk about them arresting Obama what is what is all this? Is it real? No, no So they really gonna start doing that going to rest in former president by the way Yeah, I have to rest every one of them. That's a lot That warfare that legal warfare look at the size of barat bar. He's six four Let me fight son. He's a big boy again. These guys are both 185. Okay. This is crazy They're not 180 five. These are 200 plus pound guys him sucking weight is so hard for him uh...

2:53:26for hallio yeah it looks like i mean looks like a two hundred pound god hallia is also thirty two is he thirty two yeah is that you was like a young kid while m of a twenty something twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty is a good fight very good fight man for all of us really really explosive looking probably better athlete wonder how much it fucks with them watching and Roofie get tapped right before. That's how it's just they get a can be good. Your first loss with the nerds? I know and he's a good friend of yours. Yeah, training partner. You all went through training camp for this night?

2:54:03A little bit. And he gets mud stomped. Right. And maybe you know how you go with him. Mud stomped. We just get your shit pushed in and you're like, oh, we just did a tire camp not to get taken down. And then that guy, we get lots of chance. Can you see that? There's definitely some doubt in that. Oh shit our camp's not the best. Yeah.

2:54:27Browse Hughes. What was Ema Vov's kickboxing background before he became an MMA fighter? He has a background striking, right? Isn't it am I wrong? No, he has a background striking. Because it doesn't, I mean, it certainly looks like it. When I'm looking at the way, I mean, everything looks real. Like that stutter step that he did before he delivered that right hand, that's really high level man. Look at how he throws that front teep to the body. He's fucking good man. Remember, remember, Striklin beat him out. He thinks Striklin took it on short notice. Brow Striklin puts that pressure on you and telling you and it's a different style.

2:55:03It's a weird fucking style. Striklin kind of broke him. Yeah, he kind of broke him. I think he just overwhelmed his cardio to the point where it became defensive. That's what I would say. Striklin just keeps that pressure. I look who he did the Izzy. Same shit. He keeps that pressure on you. That'd see that'd be a good fight for Izzy. Oh, yeah, I think Izzy wants that fight. Yeah, I think they're actually talking about that fight. Strickland's suspension's up in November. I'm like that. I'm like, it's a spanger management. From jumping in the ring and punching. I don't know if it's true. But I saw a thing on the internet that it could be fake.

2:55:38It also could very well be real. That he got kicked out of anger management. Because he kept threatening to fight the teacher. I think that was just a meme. Barhalio almost got the trip. Yeah, almost got that trip But imma valve is no joke man. No joke grappling to good defense, but standing up He seems to have an advantage. You're really good job getting on the fence. Yeah, Musasi Yeah, a little bit right. Yeah, that was a guy that didn't get his flowers He's a guy did not get his flowers fucking care. Hey garden, Musasi was a fucking animal He used to train with Fedor. Oh really? Yep, that makes sense Remember with Saasate we started the big dick energy rumor about it.

2:56:17Yes. And his manager told me that he loved it. Of course he loved it. We're not saying he probably is a big dick and he probably does. Sure he don't wear high like that in a giant dick. So smart man. Very well read. Yeah and very high fight IQ too. Just intelligent as opposed to fighting but ferocious. But then he went to Bellator. People on the shelf never do. He was going to sue him to get out. But he's too old now. Like how old is he now? Fucked up he was like three years in there. Yeah, I hold his gay guard. We saw seeing now jamming 54

2:56:52Then we knocked out wide been fuck and remember knocked out Jocque sousa What's that 40? Yeah, it's over. Sover. I mean if you're oh Nice shot you can fight in other organizations keep the Train kept a rolling Remember when Susa put him in that guillotine now just like Jokare just caught him in a sec Crazy well, you know Jokare is Jokare yeah Yeah, he's a beast I can't believe you see you see Strickland's tweet about rampages son He's like we're both head to anger management just one of us gonna have a felony on the record or one of us is gonna be able to own a gun that for us. That's a good fight man.

2:57:41Yeah, Bahá 'íio is closing the distance now. This is interesting. So there's the thing about him breaking when he fought Strickland if you think he broke. He melted yeah. Like did he, but did he just run out of cardio or did he lose his enthusiasm? He was given his goods, he was getting though. They were, they were socking it out to the last minute. How about he broke him? He broke him. Yeah. I mean he certainly overwhelmed him. He certainly overwhelmed him. But but you can't tell where I just like guys From his face if you want out. It's also an intelligent thing It's an intelligence thing if you know that you don't have enough left like here's his example last round of striclin versus Adesanya strict.

2:58:21It's like fuck it come on come on. He's coming towards him What is that is he gonna do? Yeah, all right. Let's do it knock me out like fuck that Yeah, you're exhausted you got dropped in the first round You got you're losing the fight. You know you're losing the fight state defensive just get out of there You could say all you broke them, but is that just a smart move if you don't have anything left? Yeah, if you can't do it like you know you're too fucking tired to fight the guy off Would you you're supposed to throw yourself into the fire? I mean you could try that that doesn't usually work How many guys put the thing is like you want a guy?

2:58:53You want a guy who just wants to fight to the end, too? So it's like it's more entertaining I know what's like what do you what what do you favor do you favor intelligence and tactics and live to fight another day? do you look at it in terms of an entire career? Like if you just decide to throw down right there and you're exhausted and you know you're exhausted and you only got a couple of seconds of haymakers in you. And then you get KO'd and flatline, you're at the jaw, you get your jaw wired shot at the hospital and you're spending at least once. I love seeing fighters that don't get hit. Like that skill, the ability to take less damage to me is what now as somebody who's such a fan of fighting, that's what I love.

2:59:29But then you have max alloy, lacks round. And he has that support. Winning the fight pointed the ground in the universal war zone with a highlight real KO of just right. He's just great. Striker's will all in general be bigger stars than grapplers always. But grapplers will in general be more successful. Yeah, they have a higher winning percentage for sure, but the stars are always strikers. Always, always, always. Like a Connor. Look at Izzy. Always. The biggest stars on the boys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they put on that. Well, that's what the casuals. That's what they know. Like oh he punches him.

3:00:04He Man, I don't care. I'm good to the body. It's such a everybody so talented now. It's just crazy. I know it's it's really interesting man You know, it's that way with everything. It's that way with everything. They're watching each other You know my son my son at nine at nine years old like you watch you watch these baseball players like these kids are fucking This is how good everybody is. Yeah, because they specialize. It's like singers. They specialize in also, they get to see what it looks like on YouTube. I think that's a big thing. I agree. I think everybody watching everybody is making everybody else wait.

3:00:39I'm out of it. Because you're a lot more shared knowledge now. Yes, because when we were coming up, it was like whatever the best kid in the neighborhood if I was the best kid, it's like, oh man, this is so good. But I didn't see the kid in fucking Cuba playing. And now the kids are privy to it. like oh shit. We got people like Gordon Ryan breaking down jujitsu like that. That didn't ever do that. The kid in jitsu's name is Daniel 220 volt. I think it is on Instagram. Dude, he's like fucking eight years old. He's like shredded with an A -pack. And he's like flying arm bars and shit on kids. And it's fucking insane.

3:01:12He's got like 600 ,000 followers. He's like nine years old. That is so insane. And he just goes in and just crushes him. But to that point, the kids are pushing themselves so much down, specializing in each sport. And they're getting fucking good, but like Tommy John surgeries up 80 % with kids under 13 years old. Oh, they're doing it on purpose Just to give them give them an advantage some of them and then some because they're throwing so hard down this is kid

3:01:37There's one try to find the one where he's he's doing a flying arm bar. It's pretty recent Oh, it's up at the top look how jack these in that one. There's one. Oh, look at this. Oh Oh my god. What are you talking about? Sorry, this is supposed to be a fight. The kid was never joining. We're all here just landed right hand. We touched on a lot of subjects. Yeah, the thing about a guy like Imamov that I was going to get at with the cardio is much like Connor, like these guys that are real fast and explosive, that is like sprinting. Oh, correct. That was a nice ride to the bottom. He can't do both.

3:02:12It's gonna find a guy with crazy knock -up power. He's fast, great car lunch. Right. Right. So the difference between him and Mirab is Mirab just kind of mulls you. Yeah, he's moving fast and powerful, but once he gets a shot or two off, he shoots it every time no matter what. And that pressure, that pressure is going to make his strikes even more effective because you never know when the strikes are coming. You know, boxes used to do this thing. They still do where they run for like an hour and a half and you keep your heart weight at a certain level, not super high. And that's that's how you build new capillaries and stuff.

3:02:42That's Armstrong would do that too. Yeah, they call it. What do they call zone training. Yeah, over over trade over fighters of UFC fighters. Yeah, but boxers would do it for like literally running hour and a half and stuff. Yeah, you have to do it really. Yeah. I think all elite athletes in all sports are doing all the secrets. Yeah, no, yeah. Now the sea. Now it's a thing. It's a talent. Like the technical when you look at how technical everybody is now like this fight right now. This is an awesome fight. If these guys were just kickboxers, this would be an awesome. This is like a high level fight.

3:03:14Yep. And they're not there. Their cardio is great. Like we're both well still early. It's like around. Yeah. There's another lot of wrestling. Very smart. Chail Sunday quote. He was saying that no one can fight full blast for 25 minutes. It's just too long. Fight. Yeah. That's what I was going to get to. It's like, okay, but isn't that like no one can if you run a marathon, you will die. I'll tell you right now. You want to own 26 which models your kidneys will dysfunction. That's right. You will bleed out of your pancreas and you will die. There's people that'll tell you that, right? Can't hand hands ran, 220 miles or something like that?

3:03:50More. Yeah, he's run more. I think the big foot 240 is 238. I hung with him in Eugene when I saved people. Oh, right hand back. Oh, they both land a good shot there. Oh, ima vov. This is good. How do you score this fight? I ain't fucking now. We barely paid attention. We're watching little kids, strangely, so. We're watching little kids do arm -bores. I think if you go back to the vaccines. That's really sad. That's good. That's bad. I knew we were going to touch on it. When I was a kid, you know, when, like martial arts was on television, it was on TV, like, maybe, like, P .K .A. Karate would be on TV.

3:04:30You remember those days, like, on ESPN, like, maybe, like, once a month on a Saturday, You'd watch two dudes in karate pants throw bad kicks at each other. Yep. Imagine like kids growing up and seeing this now. I know from the time they're like babies. They're seeing elite level MMA. Yeah. Elite level grappling striking. And then if they're like become fans and they get crazy, then they get fight pass. They start watching UFC Brazilian. You just do the big difference now is there's the UFC video game. So like I Sports through video games me my brother play mad and their tech mobile so I knew everything about football the rules everything all the players But now they have the UFC game so my kids like know who hombs I does not when he fights you know from the video game So they seem like oh, there's hombs out because they pick them all time in the game That's great and they know to use his wrestling.

3:05:21That's crazy Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I've played like I don't know 10 years ago I played like the first UFC video game and I would get so fucking mad because I like couldn't do the move Yeah, I was a ground that I know how to do. I'm fucking what's the board of the buttons. That was a nice right hand. Yeah, it was. Look at that. Oh, that was a good right hand back, right behind you. This is good, five. Yeah, it is. The places they've never figured out a way. There's probably not a way until they get real something that can really change your actual experience, like what you're seeing, where they could make a virtual reality game with grappling.

3:06:01But you can with striking at least with boxing. Yeah, they have those it's fucking good dude. It's good It's dripping and it's comp it's competitive like this thing's coming at you throwing punches at you You'd like a Brian you look ridiculous. Yeah, you look ridiculous. I'm telling it. It's great Yeah, but you hold your gloves the wrong way unfortunately because if you punch normal like this racket the gloves are like upside down It's a workout. That's a real work. Oh We heard him. He heard him. Yeah, snap his head back. Oh nice. He's blood Body shot nice. Oh, oh, oh, email. Off looks good. He does Bahawi looks like he's recovered though.

3:06:41He's had he's But he's getting dirty. He's getting touched. Yeah, he's getting touched And I just don't think either of these guys beat hombs up And I got to deal with that whole wrestling thing Good luck with that. Good luck to everybody. That's a really hard puzzle to solve. I think for a guy like Imavov too, what we're seeing is this version of him that learned a lot from the Strickland fight. You know, I mean, I think a guy like that. We got need in the balls. Did he? Yeah. I think a guy like that goes through a loss like that and is like, okay, I got to up my cardio, I got to up my pace, I got to not let people push me out, I got to learn from that.

3:07:21I didn't expect that as if you stick on the outside you don't you don't know I think that's where fighters make their biggest growth either they make so much growth and get so much better become Contenders or they go the fucking opposite that's why I'm hoping happens with bone nickel Mm -hmm if I have to watch him fucking strike again. I'm gonna freak the fuck out dude Use your goddamn grappling man get with someone to help you with your grappling They they put him in there fast too like they super fast like our DR is the UFC But it's the UFC babies, but that's the thing that like it's worse says it like if you get if you go to the UFC Be ready to fight anybody they don't say no to me.

3:07:58Otherwise don't come Yeah, but is that smart if you're developing a fighter? It makes no sense It's not really smart But the thing is like some guys can pull it off like John right so John did it, you know I remember John against the standard Gustavson or Bonner no goose mal like one of his first fights and I remember thinking like where is this guy coming from like this crazy This guy is so good when you saw him against Jacob Brian Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, oh Bro, he was he was so special. So that guy got thrown right into the fire 22 years old fight show gun, you know in New Jersey wins the title crazy, but you're in the big leagues but he's a freak Most guys if you were raising them and training them you would you know if you were raising them through the career you'd be like We need to test you like that We need to test you against a real solid rapper.

3:08:48They've done that with Paddy Pymlet now. They've done well with him. They do well with Sugar, Sean O'Malley. Because I think the UCs learned, like with Darren Till, such a talent, look who he's doing now. They pushed him way too fast. Way too fucking fast. And it fucks these guys up. Bro, Till can fucking strike. He can crack, man. He can strike himself. He can strike. Yeah. And that knockoff of Luke Rockhofer. Proofs crazy. That was crazy. easy. I think the UFC did learn but the UFC can only do so much. They can only do so much and the sugar shone the right here's Peter Yahn. I think Darren had neat problems too.

3:09:23I think that's part of the thing. He wanted he asked for his release so he could get on that O. O. I. E. and get these injuries and heal up. Oh, that makes sense. I can't do this again. It's a test amount time release me. They didn't cut him. He asked for his release. Most people think he was cut. He asked for his release. That makes sense. And I just Just starting dudes outside the UFC. Bro, he looks so good against Rockhold. Oh my God. This guy might have a career as a legitimate boxer. Cause like he started off as a Muay Thai guy. He actually had some boxing, some boxing bouts too. Yeah, he's a good guy.

3:09:54And he's fucking good. He's fowlch next. Yeah, call Frosch, but call Frosch is 150 years old. You guys are missing out. These guys are in each other's grill right now. I know, we are. They're in mid distance here just banging it out. Great defense. How does defense is outstanding, man. I just think this is great. I just think calms out eats these guys. He takes like now. He'll be awesome He takes him down that that that if you're that close to him. He finishes both of them It just says what it is you think so that's it But he looks good, but it's the difference in like his faint like as he's moving in it's everything's very precise He does I like that.

3:10:34That's nice. Oh I hope Yeah, fuck you like his footwork right Joe's Yeah, he's got this stutter step that he does when he's coming in where you think he's coming in the you relax a second He did he like he pulls you to sleep a little bit. That's high level

3:10:53See this is where you like let that time run baby. Let's get this lung capacity back Let's slow this heart rate down. Let him boo That's fine right if you're in his corner. Yeah, no one ever takes the full five ever. It's never been done Really? It's never been done. That's crazy. It was taking the full five. Wow. It's a lot of pressure Dude five minutes was a long time when you're in there to fucking plus the crowd like I've been kicked the nuts Mike and Zag I poke the night by croak -op and you think you want the five minutes and the crowd's like fuck you Like okay, I'm good not fine. I'm good

3:11:37And he's got a really deep shot. Yeah, well, there's so much. He didn't, he got in well, but he didn't fully commit to it. And we are only in round three of a five round fight. He doesn't want to gas.

3:11:53I really don't know how I score this at this point. Because we haven't been barely been paying attention. I've never watched it. From the small fracks and I see him move on up two rounds. Really? Yeah, yeah, I thought he definitely won that last round. Yes. He's lending the more effective strikes. But again, you ain't getting a title shot against Ham's not fighting like this. It's just the, the, the, the, the depends on how it ends. Yeah, correct. Who's RDR fighting again? Well, fluffy Hernandez. Oh, oh, oh, oh, there you go. He's touching. And this is where, again, who knows Joe, you know, you're, you're the expert, but when he said RDRs with this match, there's another shot.

3:12:29I think it's easiest. Really? Yeah, I think I'm out cold. Oh, standing. Yeah, I don't think you're Bollinger. Who's that? Yeah, right? That's a good point. He's a knockout before the difference in the difference in between his standup versus Hamza standup is pretty significant. Also, the the fact that RDR will be concerned about the takedown. Yes, means that he's going to be open to really open up standing. Yeah. Yeah. If you watch what Homs that does to those guys like those The second he does start to get comfortable standing and so on. I put up then that Mershart fight you went Yeah, when he gets He gets like it's clean He loves to strike like evening and CDP's like let me fucking light this guy up You know, so it's like no, no, just keep doing what you don't do.

3:13:18Let's get to check and get the fuck out But he's getting all this criticism from the fan base. You're boring boring champion. He's like I'm boring Hobbs on okay, okay watch this Then already I was like yeah, let's do it. I'm sure I'm him to stay winning though, too You know is the pedigree to do it. Yeah, he does I mean won't your champion. That's the most important thing. Yes. Yeah, just keep winning now You make your real money and I'm curious what the UFC is gonna do with the payout cuz His paper view points before and now that's a gone. Yeah, you know, right? Do you think they do it based on how many people watch?

3:13:51That would be that's weird right but that's the best way to do it right? So it's like ratings on a TV show If you've got friends ratings, you get a lot of money. You get a percentage of that how to revenue I don't know how you would do it. I was way above my pay grid I don't know how you would do it But I would imagine something like that would be reasonable Like the their idea is that like if more money is being acquired by the company if they're making more money now It would be great if the fighters get paid more money that just makes sense Oh, and I think the UFC is gonna do that. They're gonna do it Even if the UFC doubled everybody's pay, they're still only put out 50 % of overall pay.

3:14:29So for the UFC it's a win win. It's always winning this. Burrow is more busy with this man. He's way more good. He looks good in this round. Yeah, and the last one. The thing is like these rounds, you know, this is only a minute in and this is the fourth. Yeah, and he's got a lot of fight left to go. And Burrow has been busy. But Joe, you'll hear guys argue fighter pay and they compare it to the NFL and NBA. and they go, it should be 50 -50 and I don't agree with that. Because any league that's ever done above what the UFC's done, they're all out of business. There's only one promotion ever in the history of fighting.

3:15:03That makes a profit, it's the UFC. And it's not the NFL, it's not the NBA, it's different. So it's hard to argue that they should do it any different. Again, even if they doubled everybody's pay, it's still only 15 % of the profit. They can do it, it's nothing. And you can always fight some more else. That's a tricky one you could. Yeah, you could. Yeah, that's a good argument. But then it's like, where would you want to look at your overall career, like what your potential for stardom is? There's no question. If you go to this, just a leak guys, they got paid really well in the PFL that nobody knows who they are.

3:15:36And then maybe they made more money than the UFC, but they won't get the same kind of sponsors. They won't get the same. It's time to close your. You're out of your base. You went from that NFL to CFL. Yeah, I mean I I see both sides but at the end of the day you want to make Connor money. Yep do Connor ship correct That's true. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh boy. Oh, oh Back, though oh these dudes are throwing down these dudes are throwing down. God excellent Hollywood his his defense Barrett. There's such a high life. Yeah, they're both their defense is really good really good

3:16:13They're just strictly boxing basically right now. You're not a whole lot of kicks now too close. Also neither guy can get the other day. They've tried. Yeah. It's also tiring. Yeah. You might have always thrown some kicks earlier. You threw a lot of front kicks to the body too. They keep tying up like this, but there's no like real shots. Right. They're just grappling this cage. Getting rest. both have great cardio.

3:16:42Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, dude. Damn, that was nice one. That was a nice one. I had it, not connected. Oh, God. Somebody's getting, they're opened up now. Yeah, these boys are swinging. This is, they're very close to getting cracked. Each one of those punches is missing by an inch. Yeah. God.

3:17:10This is when it's the most terrifying if like a guy has a giant advantage when you're like deep into the fourth. Okay. And you're exhausted and he's got a giant strike advantage. Oh, he's got caught again. And maybe he tried taking him down and it didn't work out. So Mopov was born in Dagestan but then moved to France? Is that how his French citizenship? Okay, that's a long time. From when he's not... Yeah, but that's enough. You got the soul of the country and his bones culture of work. I think But it's like what a history of combat sports man Dagestan. Yeah, it's crazy. It's not a big place.

3:17:47Yeah, I said by Sean Armenian I think I only Armenians but what the fighter's both fight wrestling and boxing wrestling kickboxing MMA huge part of the culture Sam and I is a by Sean Sam and Doug I so love Armenians back in LA We were a real men great. They were men. We're men. Do you ever see in this like probably two years ago in LA they tried bringing like the Transhit and Armenians Just what happened? Do you see all the here? Yeah, just just a line of G wagon show Yeah, just Colonies They don't fucking joy They're not here. No, they ride it. Yeah, they would be like no, this isn't happening.

3:18:29No, not with our kids. School bird, but oh, are bad. Yeah, bitch. Good luck with that. Don't fuck with the Armenians. Yeah, they're tight They're a tight group tight group. Yep had to be try bringing like safe rooms in our means. Oh, oh, oh I'm just calling them a nice left hook and at the right hand. God. They're couple rugged fox Their faces look pretty clean I was a little more beat up. Yeah. Dude. Kidney right now. Imagine how much of a top like much of time this takes off your fighting career versus if they just grapple the whole fight. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Well, not just your fighting career man.

3:19:09You're actually your life. You're your life. Yeah, you're bringing. Yeah. I mean, this is a car accident.

3:19:17when you think about the kind of pressure that this fight puts on your just every yeah everything your lungs your heart your brain your bones for one thing but you're not even considering that eight weeks in camp right you going in the fight just be the part of it the camp fucks you up you have if you have hard enough Training partners you can fucked up in K .O. What was the worst injury you ever went into a fight with? I got knocked out three days before I fought no gear. Oh my god. And I got knocked out four days before I fought Rothwell. Oh my god. Shane Carwin started. Oh my god, that was so...

3:19:59Dude, I would watch him spar these giants and they would go full and I was just like so horrified. And you didn't even warm up, you guys just start banging and I was like... I'm not kidding. That is so ridiculous. He literally wouldn't warm up. I'm not kidding. That's so ridiculous to fight three days after being killed. That's so crazy. We just didn't know any better. And then people like, oh, shop don't have a chin. It's like, yeah, yes and no. Fuck you. I had knocked out by carwind right before this. Yeah, and you're fucking no shattered by Krokov. It's just such a nutty sport, man. Yeah, it is.

3:20:33Well, how's around? It's also the best sport. It's the best sport. Yeah, I Mean it's everything the thing is sparring in practice Yeah, it requires everything as for sure. Well the thing is it's like it transcends all languages cultures Everything everybody everybody can watch this and know exactly what's up to your point Joe You're watching this you're knowing these guys are taking years off their lives. Yep. Yeah, that's what you're dealing I love when people say horseback riding uses every muscle in your body like there's some fights like Justin Gachi 21st and that are hard to watch yeah right it's hard to watch because the equipment stopped yeah well it's not just game goes it's how the game goes he's tough he didn't want to quit he was trying to fight to the bitter end oh fucking nice one three and Robbie Lollard oh my god that's the ultimate example that that that that that's not great example that's like but that's also like that's that's like you lost five years of your life that's boxing they would stop the game that's the name of the fucking game yeah but it's like when it's Express that purely.

3:21:30Yeah, it's like something special watch. It means a horrifically violent fight the two fights that one was the Ferguson Gachie fight and the other was the Ortega, Oloski, Volkanovsky fight. That was awful. I would have stopped that way or there We knew who the winner was There's a few fights where you just go. Oh, I wish this guy would just stop just the corner would say this is enough That's when your corner has to throw in the towel cuz spiders are too tough for the fucking Frankie Ingram anger Oh my god, but he won't but imagine if it's all the towel then yeah Yeah, the towel then he put the loser grow in his prime Frankie Edgar was a man Durable dude and the thing about him was he was a real one fifty five.

3:22:12Yes, he was a quick an actual fifty five Yeah, actually weighed one fifty five. Yes, he's beaten these dudes who are cut in crazy way. Yeah, he five forty five He did eventually until later. Yeah, and then he fought thirty five. Yep He's about to fight bear knuckle right he's getting a million bucks though. Is he really yep? Whoa For real for real damn I Get it poked again. Yeah, I get it three three two minute rounds fuck yeah again He's fighting Jimmy Rivera. He's no punk but Million bucks they're gonna give you a good match up Jimmy Rivera was good He's on my face solid striker. Yeah, look very compact.

3:22:54Yeah, Fred Dude, needing a boss, poke twice. Fuck. He's gonna get my point. Yeah, sometimes I think I have a problem because I watch every fight, pre -lams up, I watch every fight, then I watch BYB, backyard brawling, I watch BKFC, whatever fight, I'll just, I watch all the time. So you think you have a problem because you like it? I can't get enough of it. We're all watching it right now, we're having fun. Like, why would that be bad? Yeah, yeah, but like, I'll go home and watch the pre -lams and shit. I probably will too. Yeah. There's a few fighters on the prelims that I'd like to check out and then I'll also like to watch some of the fights that I was talking through me too You haven't lost your enthusiasm for watching fights ever Wow

3:23:41That is gonna be crazy It's tough to watch the chicks turn each other into a pole I don't like it especially when Paige Van A. It was fighting I'm like, please don't know I know when they're ugly. It's like

3:24:01That's the way I like why your fingers bro Why he's gotta watch his fucking fingers man? And I like so what is he doing is he's sticking his hands? Every time he comes through he comes in with his fingers That's a big fucking problem. He's got his he's poking his hand out Oh my god, it's totally doing now It's a big problem because it fucks your whole your rhythm up and everything else also And then you can take advantage of it bro. He's doing it again I know it's also a way to get more champion That's great. He keeps getting to buy locks and unlock a like locks his hand I know let's go see him now some kind of day.

3:24:30No proper shot. Varhalla's worrying about his fucking fingers He like shoots a shitty shit. I don't like it stills up to the ways well, and then let's go. I know it's very strange I don't know it's gonna take down would be big shoot. Yeah, it is kind of went weird that Goddard isn't like seeing anything Why is extending a fucking fingers? I'm not really not supposed to do that. I know that's. I mean, what is the law? I think that is the rule. I can't have his face. Can't be doing this when people try to stand. They can't stand. You can't go out like this. No, up. No, no, no. Can't extend any fingers now.

3:25:06Can you do this? Because now every time you go in, you can't say about getting broken your eye. Well, why do we have extended fingers in the first place? Why don't we cover those things with leather? We've been over this man. Yeah, we didn't cover it again. Someone's not listening to us. Look, I poked for real problem. But the fingers like this, they don't help you with grappling. Here's the problem. So they changed their gloves before knockdowns went down like 60%. So you have to see how I'll fuck that. But the real issue is as soon as Mavav touches his eye, you should automatically deduct the point.

3:25:43I guarantee you he doesn't do it again. The reason he's gonna wait with it is cuz hey don't do that again. He's like yeah, no doubt That's a very good one two times. That's true too if you take if there's no if there's Absolutely black and white you touch their fucking eye you lose a point guys are gonna stop doing it 100 % but the two Lucy goes to take him down here and nut shots to nut shot any nut shot fence grab any that shit would take a point Stimmed up for a nut shot with the proper cup you don't even get hurt But you can pretend you got hurt. Yep, and he's like oh

3:26:23What a fight what a fight dude that was a crazy decision it's like I told you my Bob decision. I'm thinking maybe I'm a Vov here. I don't know but yeah, it looked like you my mom decision when it when a fight like that like it's almost like it takes a couple of seconds for these dudes could chill and hug each other. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like for a couple of seconds. Yeah, that was like, remember Robbie Lawler? After he fought fucking, was it, Henderson? Johnny Hendrix? Johnny Hendrix, yeah. And just after he won, after the fight, he just kept looking at him like this, just sitting there with his lip all fucking.

3:26:56I mean, he's so game. Robbie Lawler, I don't know if you make a human being tougher than Robbie Lawler? Animal in his prime. Yeah. One of the greatest knockouts of all times, him versus Melvin. Oh my God. No, no, it's what he's fucking is eating his life and I'm up like bowling pass remember remember in New York when they're protesting and he was on the bus No, oh, yeah, he was on the bus They're they're you know they're protesting on the streets and there was a UFC fucking like black band filled with fighters Oh, and Robbie Lawler's one of them and everyone's like oh my god. They're about to break in and you go sit down Concerned your energy.

3:27:29We're gonna need it Those doors open they're got problems and think of Robbie Lawler walks off that Fuckin' box. Good luck and some good luck. Here's ladies like he's so not a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that? He can beat up a boy. What was that protest about? Was it a Gaza protest? Was that what it was? Yeah, I was Black Lives Matter I think. Was it? Yeah. So what year was this? And they do matter Joe. I've always had to do. What year was that? When all the chaos is going on, damn. Has that always been there? That that guy that picture. Yeah, really yeah, Palestinian I was a Palestinian protest and the fighters have nothing to do with it They're just trying to get to the ring so it was a Gaza thing.

3:28:10So this was what time was this what what year was this Jamie?

3:28:152333 yeah, I was that crazy that Gaza shits been going on Like the surface of the moon oh here it goes

3:28:284946 seems like You know, I'm a decision immavent for sure That's our dean. He my mom. Wow. He's not getting Call it like that you call it well. I mean who else then who's getting The party are fluffy. Well, it really depends on what that fight looks like yeah, cuz this was a fucking war This was a good for me. We mean he might not have stopped him, but he put on show both of their stock the both went after it yeah it was good fight you didn't think it was good fight it's a good fight if you didn't get your title shot hmm interesting well what would they stop the UFC's standards okay but like who is the big star behind these guys now behind ima bav so ima bav just has this great performance he's ranked number two he's on TV right who's the big star other than him you need to fight.

3:29:20Yeah, can jump him fluffy and fluffy and already are if they finish their they're guaranteed to get it. If they get a finish which that fight should be finished. But let's say that one's born to your biggest star is strictly right. He's the biggest star. Yeah, and he beat him. And I'll talk shit. Right. So he and we can build that fight for a paper. Oh, I want to get right back in there like that. He comes back November December. Right. But does he go right back into a title shot or does he have to fight somebody because he He lost to Dr. Cus. Yeah. He hasn't lost anybody since then. That was quite a while ago.

3:29:54And that fight with Dr. Cus was pretty close. Well, you also had him win in the first one. Yeah. You know, he also had staff going into that. Really? Which is a way bigger deal than you would think. Yeah. Wow. I'm bad. I'm an average person. Yeah, a stranger. Just because of the, the egg got to take the antibiotics and fucking antibiotics and just a staff itself. The exact same energy and cardio. Yeah. And you're also fighting one of the most physical guys in the division who's a fucking bulldog. And Dr. Cus is an animal. He never gets tired. He comes to fucking throw and haymakers at you. He keeps punching.

3:30:22What do you do with DDP now? I don't know. It's a good question. It is a crazy like he was UFC champion, the King of the World on top, and then just gets manhandled for a fight. But this is how it goes. Like if you see he's gonna turn to a gatekeeper until he thinks he's ready for a title show again. This homestay keeps beating. But it's tough if he needs homestay to either move up or move on, you know? But because it's no one wants to see that for five hours. Well, let me say this you're a grappling expert All right, if they hired you if they said listen We know we have to make some changes and we want a real genius to look at my game.

3:30:57What what what can I do? If I were with DDP Seven days a week for a year Jesus Christ he could be A bare minimum competitive with the comms out that he fought at the bare minimum. But then remember if he does that with you seven days a week, yes, four go all his other shit. Probably should do that anyway. Yep. Right? How about that? What a return story that is. Yeah, I agree. So that's the issue is you need to split everything up. But there's right now there's such a discrepancy in the grappling that that needs to take priority. Like he could do grappling seven days a week and then spend time keeping his other skill sharp or striking sharp.

3:31:40In the morning. But he just got dominated across the board. What did he get to grab? Like he couldn't, he could not only stop the takedown, but he also couldn't get up. And when he'd get position on Hamzaat, he couldn't hold it. Correct. I wonder what's like a protocol where you, like if you continue to add work, like if you start off with 10 miles, then you want to work to 11 and 12 and 13. You start off like training in MMA. You start off at this pace, And then you have a heart rate monitor on you want to push it faster and hard like I wonder what the fucking threshold is if we've even seen it yet a really wonder Because we've always had these ideas before guys like marab that there's these physical limitations Yeah, but a guy can't fight every minute of every round, but yeah, they can So like are we there yet?

3:32:28Or is this like one of those things where no one knows yet because they just limited up here Yeah, I'm just like the four minute mile. Oh There's there's things like that. Yeah, where guys just have to see it. They'll hold on that's possible And then like well if he can do it I can do it. That's what I'm sure I know And it really in this form is only 20 years old Because like 2005 go back and watch a 2005 UFC fight. It's pretty different pretty different Oh, it's a great scene. Yeah, pretty different. Yeah, so the technique. It's there's nothing like this There's no other sport like this. If you look at the sport now, like you have guys who are like specialists in one thing and then, you know, like, per hour's a graduate striker and then he's like decent everywhere else or, you know, it could be, it's a great grappler and then he's, you know, he's got decent striking, you know, 20 years from now, people are going to be specialists in fucking everything.

3:33:20Yeah, they're going to be doing it from the time they're kids. Like, like, see, we've said that, but we haven't seen it. We're like, they said that 10 years ago. They've said that and it did for whatever reason, you might be right. You might be right, but the specialists have always dominated. Yeah, the thing is, it's like, if you're a specialist, it's just a matter of, we're also just meatheads. So that's another issue. Fair. But coming from a fellow meathead, because those guys that are specialists are so dominant in that one aspect, that it blankets everything else. So because they control where the fights can go.

3:33:52Like, like the, the finality of MMA in my opinion, should be a situation where a generalist MMA fighter can be competitive with specialists across the board in every martial art. So could hold it, could you hold its own, hold its own with the world's best box or his weight, world's best is just a guy, his weight, world's best wrestler, it's great, world's best. See, I don't think that's possible, Gwyn. Listen to you talking to dog, but you might be able to just get it. You might be able to get it. You might be able to get it. You might be able to get it. You might be able to get it. So for example, I don't think there's And they make peptides.

3:34:24I think it's hours in the day. So for example, like I'm saying so for For example, like with wrestling like I'm that I'm not we're gonna be the best Freestyle wrestler in in the world, but under an ADCC rules that I can hang with anyone any Olympic champion Under ADCC score and criteria in a wrestling match So like you're not gonna be not the MMA guys won't be beating the best guys in their domain but they can be competitive enough with the best guys in the world. Were they're not going to get finished? Yeah, like they won't, you know, if a guy is, you know, just finality I'm talking about, if a guy is wrestling in the Olympic champion, maybe he gets taken down four times for every two that he hits.

3:35:08So he was losing every match, but it's at least competitive. Mm -hmm. So like that. So he's getting finished, you know, every for every one finish. Who's the closest it's ever come to putting it all together? Well, GSP. Thank George. George and Gion. But I also think the only way you can get to that point is getting real athletes in the UFC. Like the shit athletes were guys, whether they were gonna be all stars in MLB or NFL, they start coming over to the UFC. We're not seeing that, and it's because it's just, it's kind of the nature of the way America set up. And it's not just the athletes too.

3:35:42They need to be extremely intelligent athletes. Correct. Correct. But it's the same thing with like the reason Dagestanis are so dominant in fighting is because they're not their athletes I'm playing football they're not playing soccer then I playing baseball. They're literally all all those young men are just doing wrestling It's embraced by the culture. Yeah, in here in America Like like you like you I've talked to Eddie about it like I'm like your kids not fucking Savant and Jiu -Jitsu like no because friends aren't doing it. They want to do what their friends are doing So it's friends playing baseball so he played baseball Yeah, you can't so it's a it's a cultural thing Yeah, you can't compete in the fucking national sport is fucking people up No, that's like they're not they can't compete with us When it comes to other sports night even fucking close.

3:36:28No, not even close put a basketball good luck Yeah, didn't they do a football game in Sao Paulo yesterday? Yeah, they did that's why chief's charges That's my old no, they lost really. Yeah, why have you ever been to what they because they watch soccer? Do you ever been to a football game like a soccer game rather? Yeah, what they call football? Yeah, like a real one. Yeah, real one. Have you been? Yeah, it's a cool. It's fun. First of all, there's no breaks. Like, you know why they can't have it on TV? Because there's no real short commercial. They don't take time off. You have to be in shame.

3:36:57I love watching the world cup. They've had it for 10 miles. These two's all have crazy fucking legs. Like ridiculous in the streamlined upper bodies. Yeah. And they're just fucking cardio machines. And soccer, if you see soccer in Europe, But those kids start, people like Messi and all of them, they start at six, even younger, and they go to special schools. Well, all they do is play soccer. That's the only thing that I do, so I've a Tiger of Buddy in LA, and his dad was from England, and he was the best seven -year -old, I've ever seen in soccer. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck are we doing? His dad played semi -prope, so he grew up doing it.

3:37:35His footwork, I was like, this is insane. And then he just wasn't at school one day. I'm like, where the fuck is this kid at? And Tiger's like, oh, he moved to England. So I text his dad who has buddies with him. I'm like, yo, man, what the fuck? He's like, oh, Manchester United picked him up. I'm like, yeah, he's seven. He goes, yeah, he's in the feeder program. They take the feeder program. It goes all the way up, all the way up. Yeah, and those kids, but most of those kids don't make it. So what happens is you play your whole life and you don't make it on the Premier League. And now you're just a good soccer player.

3:38:06And thanks for the time. Oh Sports no guarantee in anything nothing nothing. I wouldn't you can't Tennis the same way tennis it's a proof starts not right Pro sports is very cut. Yeah, and the most cut throat is when you're fucking throwing bones at each other inside a cage in your underwear That's this is the most cut throat the most So and the shortest career it's been yeah, you're in a half. Yeah It's a thing about like someone like Aaron Pico who was wrestling on the international circuit at 16 years old and Boxing so that he was raised golden box. Yeah, he was amazing and so his skill set is so complete Mm -hmm, but then there are little there are those little factors, right?

3:38:48You rush maybe Mm -hmm. Maybe you're maybe and when in the big show you kind of you Yeah, but forget about him. What about LaRone? LaRone has been quietly one of the most elite guys that no one talks about Not in a division, but because that division's too crazy, the division is just filled with animals. It's all assassins. It's like a fucking just a killer's den. Yeah. So LaRone had to make a big statement, and that was a big one. But to Gordon's point, like when you're talking about like smart fighters, that's the difference. Like a John Jones IQs through the fucking room. Yeah. At all times, like those like, is he's a very strong guy.

3:39:23How are you training? Strickland is a smart guy. His fight IQs very high. Staying injury free is a huge thing. Strickland's invested all his money to you know the wicked smart Yeah, he's wicked of course. Yeah, he think he's an idiot. He says crazy Not in it. It's also wise Smart and a fox. Yeah playing the game any of those guys like I always look at like how well do you stay injury free? You know, how do you train how much damage you take in training while getting better? It's really it's a whole science. That's why I was talking about what I love about Brian Shaw He did lifting 1200 pounds for 13 years in a row and and one of the few guys really didn't get injured That's nice, but his friends are Jordan Peterson.

3:40:01So

3:40:05How big is he by the way? I brought him to the green room. Did he's not even a human. It's so weird Vikings Like whatever those things Some from the pie show. Yeah, some from the pie. Oh, you didn't right? What was that made? I'm drilled big Dan. I'm like I'm like I'm not fucking drill That's funny. You like I want to do MMA. So he's like we did like a little bit. Oh that's right in MMA fight We did like some stuff on like kind of a Tommy like arm triangles from Mount and we did some wall wrestling stuff and then this fight that didn't happen right no I didn't have any of that swing though, but he was he was serious I brought him with Cody, Donna, I'm in a boat.

3:40:40I went to high up, but bro He's 400 pounds and drilling with fucking big Dan on the wall and I'm like showing him like dumping a single as the guys Like second life comes towards you locking a double putting them down And I'm just like I grabbed Dan. I just like circle them down to dense six foot seventh 30 pounds. So Brian just does the first move, locks both legs and just picks them up over his head. He's like, whoop, and fuck him, put them down on the ground. He did this and they would Derek Wolf. Derek Wolf is all started with 285 pounds like, you know, what up for Viking and just pick them up.

3:41:11Derek was like, it's so suffocating. He just got underhooks and I'm going to pick you up and move you over here and just throw, I mean, you're not doing anything with him. He's too big. He's too big. So that's like in the Bible. That's come over the hill and everyone runs because they're giants. They did a, they did a, they did a, they can't be just one of him, right? What he is is like the echoes of the past. Well, they, they looked at his bones. His bones, his bone density. They didn't have giants as in actually it's a different thing. He had his bone density is, is, is, is, they've never quite seen anything like it.

3:41:44He has, I think the densest bones they've ever recorded. They said it's one in 500 million people have bones out of them. He's a human a hippo. He's like four other dudes on earth. He's got a rhino muscle. He's a real freak, but it's weird just when you're standing next to him. Okay, this is a different thing. Like this is a gorilla. This is a chill. Did you ever hear Andy Galpin talk about? They took a muscle tissue from one of these, one of the greatest Olympic leftos of all time. And this guy, not only have been training, but have been taken a certain, you know, certain Russian, you know, concoctions.

3:42:16And they found that his muscle fibers were a kin to a rhino. Like the density worth akin to I'm gonna say it again a fucking Rhino Like it was a different density some people is different around kids all the time You can just grab a kid and like dude, but the fear pretty you're pretty bad. How I try my grapple fucking Thor Oh my god, right it was like the best part is I it's like I want to do private I was at the I was at the PI because We're doing us fight pass the next day so I had to compete the next day So I taught him private. I'm like I can't train because John will kill me if I get hurt and you're pretty likely to injure me because you're fucking 450 pounds So we do a private and the camera guys like if we just do one role, we just do one role.

3:43:01So I'm like Fuck I'm like a look around and like I see John like doing this fucking workout in the corner And I'm just like already it's like a hundred feet away probably won't see a start rolling And when we're already rolling them already be too late. Oh my god. Fuck it. Let's do it. And that guy is just like I think he was I think it was close to 400 pounds Maybe when we got some I saw I think I saw you got and I love starting top side control because we're doing side control first Volg I was doing it I was teaching him and Martins leeches or I don't know how to pronounce the left thing and other strong man side control scapes and They immediately I'm like just drill the move they immediately just one of them's bottom side control One of them's top side control and it just immediately degenerates into a full live role Just they're just fighting from sea control for a full hour and I'm like I just drilled the move and they're like they just can't do it So I let them both start from top side control So Thor locks on from top side control and I'm like all right go and he squeezes me so hard that I'm like if he could do this for 20 seconds He's gonna fix you me just by like just like my lungs cannot expand from this position So like I just like brought my knee now but again, they're like swept them and then like mounted them and I saw him right after.

3:44:15I finished him in like 30 seconds. And I did it with Martins, too, who actually wrestled in high school. So he was a little bit more self -aware with his body. He was actually a little bit harder to deal with. But I hit like a six sweep on him. And as I went, he used the momentum and just rolled through that, like perfect body position. He went to go roll through and I'm like, well, he gets her going back on bottom. And then I rolled him through again and then adjusted the second time. But it was interesting for sure. I saw through that. I love that idea of the folks. I did it for 30 seconds, though.

3:44:42Oh, cool. It's like it was kind of tough because it's got me 30 second to probably I did a photo shoot with Thor right after he rolled with you And he was telling me about it. He's like I went with this Gordon Ryan. Well, I'm like, that's my buddy I said you know, he's like the Michael Jordan just do is I I don't understand man Now you had me just doing all this stuff and I go you thought you were gonna do well And he goes, yeah, I'm like oh buddy. No, you just don't know. I'm just not fucking chance dude I was like and he's probably gonna 50 percent man. Yeah, well, that's like that's like what they just don't know They had a pro come in a big guy.

3:45:14He was a male stripper, but he had a couple of pro fights in boxing and he knocked He he brought another guy and he knocked the dude out And a brother guy in a sport. Yeah, I'm not supposed to do that. So Wayne McCulloch who fought it 119 He's got about boxing bird. Yeah, Wayne. No, this was that maybe Maybe his box. I might have been it. No, it was that club works. He doing time and yeah, I was but he wasn't I was and he goes Wayne goes hey, we don't do that here You know take it easy and the guy went like this to Wayne Stuck his tongue out knocked his buddy out again really dangerous you twice.

3:45:47Yes, really dangerous so Wayne goes Wayne goes stay in the ring and Doesn't even put doesn't even put a head gear on and this giant dude like 220 just jacked and Chou's Boxing and Wayne just he has throws and Wayne just go that and hit him in the fucking in the liver and apparently I wasn't there I heard that he went he made this type it The ground and that was all she wrote kids just fucking ate his liver and said don't do that in my gym And just got the fuck out guys just don't know yeah, yeah, that's not crazy Don't fuck around there's so many nuts that come in at gyms and wants bar bro Tim Tim Kennedy and your boys shame invite me that Arc type boxing yeah, and he goes bring your son.

3:46:33I'll bring mine. So when we're going the kids ago. So I bring my boys There's a bunch of guys there and there's a guy and he has double knee braces on which is always a red flag I see double fucking knee brace. I'm like that's where he has a zero spares bald head. I'm like oh this can't be good Double knee braces your kind of knee braces are we talking like the one you know Walgreens? You know where you just like I haven't washed Yeah, you're like this guy's a double shimmy. It was Chris Angel, but he's talking He's talking about UFC whatever now everyone in that group is a black belt everyone All terrible everybody's really good.

3:47:11Yeah, and we're you know, we're just how she trans We're moving around with each other. You know, it's sparring and this new guy and Tim goes hey, don't go with that guy Who I guess did I didn't read my DMs apparently I'm vitamin like oh yeah months ago and fucking showed up I didn't know he's gonna be here today because but I don't know him so I don't know people out So he's going with his friend Shane Shane Steiner. Yeah, and they're going. I see him grab Shane's Shane's very nice Shane super nice Like what the fuck? Yeah, I mean he's going and you never do that. We're just touch -spark So I'm like oh Buddy and then Tim goes stop stops around all your stops obvious you and me You and me that guy with the new bracelet you me are gonna go so I get my son I go watch this watch this is why you just watch watch So Tim's like you ready guys like get me to start the clock like this and fucking Tim yeah, just Just a nile yeah, and he was too good you good and the guys I'm good He's one of these guys I needed that And Tim by the way Tim by the way wasn't even I saw the video of that and Tim was being very nice Yeah, yeah, there's so many nutty dudes What you feel is gonna happen?

3:48:23There's so many videos online where guys don't know how to box it all and they go into a gym Like put the gloves on me man. I'm a fucking street fighter This is so many videos of those You would say that troll that Deonte Wilde invited his gym was like you can man. I'll fuck you up Yes, this little white dude a wife be it shows up. Oh that kid. That was crazy. Let's do it and wilders like oh Sign these forms so you don't sue me. Okay, put your gloves on and just fucking well He was saying shit about his daughter. Yeah, that guy that guy's a mess. He's actually truly crazy It doesn't matter. Yeah, he's just invited him into your life.

3:48:56Congratulations. Yeah

3:49:01They're all that Deonte and Francis is probably the only fight that I'd be interested in seeing from either one of those guys right now I agree 100 % yeah, Deonte Francis would be I mean, maybe there's another fight for Francis It's Deonte boxing, but the real fight for Francis is obviously the UFC title But when it was last time Deonte fought it's been a while. Yeah, he's gone some hard times since he did that I lost go Did he fight after that Zhang fight? No. He knocked out by Zhang. He has a high interest. So was that his last fight? The Zhang fight? Francis and Gano offered Lucca to return to boxing by former World Champion.

3:49:39Your power against my power. You ever hear how Teddy Atlas talked about Giantay Wagas power? He hit you so hard. He'll hit you in the face and shatter your ankles. He called it the eraser. because he was like all the errors that he made, he erased his own with one punch. He was black. And his technique's not great. Back foot's off the ground, but just fucking black. It's extraordinary. When he fought that boy's at Brazil, I was working for a showtime. They sat me and my brother in New York next to that Brazil's family. And I didn't know it. And he's walking out, there's only people cheering. And I'm like, oh no, my brother goes, why I'm like, where next to fucking Brazil?

3:50:16This is a dead man walking. This can be the worst fucking time ever. But it shows you the chin that Tyson Fury has because Tyson Fury ate one shot that on the top of the head Then went all the way down to his fat. It's fat wiggle. It's crazy. It's like world. Just like a earthquake Yeah, went through his bio. It's like the undertaker crazy shit. Well that was the first fight This is the second fight where he got dropped. I think three times. Yeah, still came back and knocked him out wild Wild his chin is insane He took that left hook went down and everybody's like well, it's definitely over Took a right hand and then a left hook, right?

3:50:49Wasn't that what it was? He's my left hook on the way down. Yes, flat. Like he's out cold. Out, out. Rises and then wins the remainder of the round. Wow. And then realized in winning the remainder of the round, how to fight him. That's right. Get him back in up. Just push him forward and he's got a back out. Now I think he's done. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's done. He said he's retired. He was thinking about one more Usook fight. He was talking about that. God, Usook. Usook is the closest that anybody's to solving Usook. The early rounds that first fight, it looked like he was solving him. Usic is so special.

3:51:18He's special. Oh, he's best. I watched them break like real boxers break down what he does Like how the traps he says never lost sir. It's on razor -weight heavyweight Olympic that's to go off I was crazy. I fought it started at 88. I mean, he's a natural cruiserweight or something He's not even at yeah, he fought better beef in the Olympics. Yeah better. He's not the amateur fight better He's another one, but he just throws ones and twos and just fucking. Oh dude three four years ago He was a scariest fucking long being alive, but he's 40. Yeah, but he's obviously 40 You know different 40 he's not getting the golden snitch sniffing around his pee pee

3:51:58What they do because when he's in those fights with bevall what kind of testing that they do Because they're talking about a trick. Oh, man. Do you think I'm cool? I don't know, man. You know, this is the thing, Gordon. Like, what they're doing with Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu on this UFC thing where you have to get drug tested. Like, are they drug testing everybody? They said they're going to start testing in 2026. What that means, I don't know. But that means that the only... They should have a multiple choice test. Yeah. It means that they're going to have to sign people exclusive. It's also... I've got a lot of money in it.

3:52:33Jiu -Jitsu has been juicy for so long. Like there's so many guys that are juicy that are in Chigitsu. It's like like the last 30 years. This is all this is all gonna be caveman talk Because they have that two things coming one is that peptide that you can you can take and you will it literally has no Endocrine it doesn't change your endocrine thing I think it blocks your myostatin. So you're gonna be able to build muscle with only muscle effects crazy Mm -hmm And then the second thing is with this CRISPR cast nine shit now Now, if you have high cholesterol, they can get your liver to stop making the kind of cholesterol.

3:53:08You become that person that makes very little cholesterol and has low cholesterol naturally. So that's what they're going to do. So statins are going to be a thing of the past as well. Because with Christopher Cas9, you can get one quick gene editing thing and it's coming down to pipe fast. Not just that. Gary Nolan was on here and he does cancer research. He's got a Stanford. One of the things he was talking about was they're going to develop a cream that you could rub on your skin that doesn't make you... So you're no longer susceptible to sun radiation the way. Yeah, because he's got like that weird genes, that weird gene where he has a lot of melanoma, all over his skin, because he has an actual expression of a gene that like is, you're much more likely to get it.

3:53:43And he was saying he's got like, cuts all over his body where they have to completely, always cut these things off. But that's a gene, they can edit that. And they can edit it with a cream. And I says, is this possible? Oh, it's going to happen. I can't wait. Come on, science. Well, they're gonna turn old ladies in the hot again. That's gonna get would you hear the guy the guy who real Bob, did you hear the guy who owns the LA Times who has all those cancer patents? He said they've got this where they they boost your helper T cell Mm -hmm, and Newsweek did an article about this. They are first of all they're curing bladder cancer Cleo blast.

3:54:20Oh, that's Martha Stewart 84. Is that a real picture? Is that like a is that filter? She just posted it like this week. That's crazy. That's insane. That's what I feel there money money money, but she's still got to work the body So yeah, the body still how do you know? This is so negative. Yeah, don't be don't be a hey. How do you know guys? You just say she got a banging body under there, but that 80 year old skin just feels a little different not when you get that super special Chris for cream Chris for cream. There we young Chris for cream all over your body. We're gonna be 80s. Come back.

3:54:50You and I Hadian Jacked and smelling like a baby you're gonna smell like a baby What if they start folks on here be huh you guys get both have long long Oh, that's me that's coming down the pipe too you you're too No, they got the peptide no, I like it I like it but the thing is like I don't want to talk to a fucking hair cutter You've been kidnapped where they just hold you there You are not gonna fucking treat me like that good for you standing ground

3:55:2140 minutes. Hey, you fucking trapped. You can't go anywhere. You fucking. I said, wow. Yeah, I get it. I see your point. That is the old shit. Adalon. Yeah. She definitely had a lot of. They got that peptide that also you rub on your thing. The gross you say, like revives new hair. I can't. Yeah. Yeah. They've developed some sort of drug that actually grows like legitimate hair. They like revitalizes the follicles completely. I want that turning back. They're taking skin and making skin young again. They're doing weird shit. Yeah. Damn. She's got the job. Look, this is this one is 82. This one is 83 and then this one is 84.

3:55:59She looks okay. She's getting something every year or they just so I mean she's really dedicated to the cause. She's trying to upper craft but look at Chris Jenner. She's the Gordon Ryan plastic surgery. Yeah man. She's got a lot of days off. No time off. She's got a lot of money. If I could pay my mortgage, Chuan's look hot. Chuan's look hot. Yeah, let's go. I got bills. Yeah. The thing is, what is your body, what's the hottest body an eight year old woman has ever had? What's up? Right, Raquel. Raquel while spring her up for a sec. I bet you she. She has some jeans, right? Some ladies have little.

3:56:36How old is she like 50 or? I've seen her. So, she has her brother. I've seen her. I've seen her. Yeah, she's like 50. She's insane. She's in six. I've seen her in jade's 50. Yeah, yeah, there's a freak again What's the new set those Latin jeans though? Yeah, it's crazy. That's a fact That's right. You know white girls like I've seen a white girl. I've seen an 80 year old English woman I know 60 year old 60 she was beautiful of just 10 60 I'm just I'm just turned six that too. What is the accent with that? I want you to Google what is the hottest 80 year old lady? I just did I just Yeah, you're good.

3:57:15You're good. This is just fuck. Oh, there you go. All right. Well dude. That's coming There is that there is that's 71 year old Frank Zane is the hottest 80 year old lady. There's that 70 Is that that is ridiculous? Oh no 80 year old grandpa crushes it. No, you know who's really really amazing is who's the guy who sings Jesse's girl Rick Springfield dude check out Rick Springfield. Oh, yeah, he's like 72 years no shirt on on stage. It's crazy Whoa Bodybuilders forget all these okay Christie Brinkley. Yeah, she's 63 Bring up Christie Brinkley now. Hey, what the fuck up Brendan why are you really looking at her 67?

3:57:54Pretty fucking good who's the game about that? Who's that? Who's the English girl Mary to Q grand music? 68 this is her this is her Dude she's a good together. She's incredible. She's probably 60 Maybe my keep it together. Ladies keep it together. I know that's discipline. They have to lift weights. When you get to a certain point, the only way you're gonna keep your kitchen always lift weights. Yeah, you gotta lift weights. Oh, fuck. You should see my boy. Here, I'm gonna show you the best. She's 60? Yeah. God. Don't. Jamie, I'm gonna send you a video. She's 60. Just see the photo of her sitting next to Bill Clinton.

3:58:32Yes. And you're like, oh yeah. Oh, that. Oh yeah. I'll show you the best. You know, because he was a fan of her. Yeah, he was a He was a obo fan of yours

3:58:47Bro, he's wearing the I'm about to fuck a little bit

3:58:56I've always been a fan of the way you present yourself on camera

3:59:04Weirdo, man. Yeah, what is that outfit? I don't know what the fuck you imagine you're a president former or other and they ask you to wear that You're like, no, I'm good. I think I'll wear a regular suit. So I don't wind up in the fucking regular shit Did you see the the picture or the video of a Cuomo giving a speech with the I think it was Muslims and One of the dudes he brought just had a do rag on Just gave the girl trying to fit in. This is where the fucking blue dude like oh my god I'm sure the best body is 74. There's nobody. Oh my god. Nobody liked this. Oh my god. That's so funny

4:00:02You go five ricks. this to you. Jack's one. I just walked over there. Don't you know about air drop. Grandpa. Oh, here it is. This is so stir. Just walk over there to have him take a picture of your phone like he did last time. Yeah. Grandpa. Send it to Jamie. I'm sending it. Jamie, is your air drop on? Holy shit. Gordon Ryan stays outside the air drop. Ecosphere. James Pro. He's one of the the rare birds. Get a phone with that. What is it? Android. Z -fold. No, it's mine. What do you have an Android now? No, I still haven't switched over yet. Yeah, I do have both But I haven't been using the other one.

4:00:39I'm gonna use it as my primary phone once I have to switch a bunch He's he was a world champion bull rider. He's 74 years old He was a bull rider world champion. How's he not completely broken? And he owns like a boss because he's because he's built like that and he never Jack. He never stops working out that It's ridiculous 74 fuck you Jesus. That's ridiculous Like I was incredible he's unbelievable. I've never seen I kept looking at him last night I was like I can't get over the shit. That's that's a dish over there. This wide. Oh, yeah, that's a discipline Iron discipline. Yeah, and it's the whole family.

4:01:17We do for a living He's a billion. It's money. He's a billion, which is weird really just a tiny runny the standards the standards own the largest just a cow. Yeah. Yeah. But they're all beautiful people. And the whole family, they're all cowboys. Like giving it to that Steiner Ants. Yeah. Yeah. So last night, I was there last night. Yeah. Last night. And and they're the nephew rocker is the world champion, Bucking Bronco rider. The his brother Sid is like the world champion. Yeah. He had the cameo and y 'all said. Yeah. That's right. Oh, really? That's right. What a crazy thing to get good. The whole family's built like this.

4:01:49writing horses Broncos and both both both Ryan's and book a while bus because then the sun shane only gets around by a helicopter. That's right Shane only she doesn't drive Yeah, he used to train at roca with us Yeah, and you used to hear the helicopter coming Yeah, it's right he's landed He's lands in the detention pond I was a big day to meet up every day to go work out in my neighbors like what the fuck is he lay I'll be there at nine exactly I got a run to the front of mine his daughter Tate was taking this gymnastics class and one of the kids would get dropped off by helicopter That's him dude his daughter does Jim Nasty.

4:02:21That's a land. Tell that to him. That's what a flex. He's the best guy. I think there's a bunch of guys that do that though. I don't think it's just one. I think Austin has a weird. Texas you can just like land them anywhere. Yeah. As long as you don't have, I think it's like the rules are like as long as you don't obviously like go against any FAA rules. Don't take out any power lives. And you have like a landlord or like just permission from the person like just landed at church. He's over my house. Didn't Tim have a house? Helicopter for a while. Okay. Tim and Shane are best friends. Oh, those Shane's helicopter.

4:02:50Tim will get out of the screen when they shoot and hogs. Tim will stand on the skis and shoot and, and Shane's like, please wear your seatbelt. And he's like, shut up. I'm done with that. He's so out of his mind. They try to get on skis and come down low enough to jump off the skis onto a wild pigs back with a hatchet. And they try that and it didn't work because they missed the pig. And apparently Tim kind of fell face first into the fucking dirt. Jesus Christ I'm gonna kill a pig from your helicopter I'm gonna try that I go I'm not gonna fucking do that Imagine if you had a GoPro on your head and it worked.

4:03:24I know It's like cool I do It involves with that shooting pigs out of helicopters thing. I've seen the videos. It's pretty wild. Yeah, it's fun to watch You don't want to do it? It just doesn't seem like the right thing to do. Well, it's a past First of all, I get into its pesky first and I would do it. I would do it You just but I can't I just can't if I had to do it like if I had a ranch It's actually hard to do too because you got it you got to shoot. I think It's the way you do it is a specific way. It's like not easy I thought about it because Ted Nugin invited me to it and I was like is that's not the craziest fucking thing you can do in your life He's go pig hunting.

4:03:56Yeah, I don't have a house. Well farmers will pay to it Farmers will pay because they they'd estimate your corn and stuff. Well over the first time we talked about it Yeah, you're like you're like pigs cause yeah $700 trillion a year in damage to the crops You're like looking up Jamie and then it was like it's only three million a year We were both like, maybe we shouldn't be fucking hell on this big. It's not just three minutes. It's more than that, right? It's not even a year, it's not like anymore. I was reading some articles, it sounded like. I was reading some articles, sounded like click baity bullshit, but it was about these 500 pound super hogs that are coming out of Canada.

4:04:29This is like the latest thing we're supposed to be scared of. Like giant super hogs out of Canada is a very big, a lot of America. Yeah, what Canada? But like, how are they so big? Like, why are they so big? Why do you have 600 -pound pigs? They get that big. They're huge. Well it's like that picture I say to that deer, that I got eaten fucking stomach first in front of my house. Oh yeah, yeah. What the fuck did this fight about? Was that a mob cat? Could be coyotes. Could be a lot of things. They do have mountain lions in Austin actually. They do, yeah. They do. We got some kind of a cat on our camera.

4:05:00And it's tough to tell perspective. But someone thought maybe, because it was really black and it was night vision, it was before we upgraded the cameras. It would look like it might have been a German Shepherd, but it was weird. It moved like a cat, but you know how German shepherds have that weird thing, but they kind of like lower in the butt. Yeah, they move a little more cat light. Yeah, which is one of the things that I think why they can go so fast, like Belgian Malinois. How about that shepherd, that thing you said me right? Insane, but this thing was in front of my house. I asked the alarm control.

4:05:31Go ahead. Well, they were like, there's a large predator, like bring the dog inside. And then I went and watched the video but I was like what the fuck is that like what is that? Yeah, I asked animal control like what the fuck would do this? They're like usually if it's like wolves or coyotes There would be blood everywhere Like they eat them and then it bleeds out and but it was everything was clean So it's probably one animal did all the work. Yeah, no Well, whatever the fuck this thing was it was in the shadows. It was hard to pick up But it looked like a cat look like a pretty big cat about the cats see how big those to those mountain lines are on Idaho and in Colorado They're not like you're a hundred pound mountain lies.

4:06:10They're two hundred pound cats. You're seeing the one Derek wolf Yeah, it's the biggest thing I was massive that one in LA You know how big he is and they see him holding that whole thing I mean holding that mountain line up. It's crazy. That one L .A. and Woodland Hills was they said was plus 200 That big dude just on the fucking cameras. Yep. Row Well, they take down Elk with their face. Yeah, and they eat dogs like crazy. When they find them in California, when they have to do those depredation things, they have a problem outline. They found that 50 % of their diet is pets. What? Really in San Francisco?

4:06:44Oh, Northern California, Bay Area? Well, Leopard's in India, do that a lot. They just catch your dogs, man. But there's kids missing in shit. Yes. Especially in the old days of the Hollywood Hills, there's stories about kids missing. They never figured out what happens. That's probably a mountain. There's a lot of them up in that whole park area up there in Colorado. There's a family hiking and the six -year -old there was there was all in the line and Mountain line came out of the bushes crab that six -year -old disappeared. Oh my god. I don't know where. Oh my god I cannot imagine. Have you seen the one that we have on the studio wall?

4:07:19The one that's a photo with the cat with a Hollywood sign behind it. Yeah, he's wearing a collar. Yeah, it's L .A. to me That's right. That photo is L .A. to me because it's completely retarded. Like everything about it is retarded. They built in, they built them around. Oh yeah, this one is dead, but they're building other ones around. They're spending millions of dollars so they can cross the highway safety and kill dogs. So this thing has a collar on its neck too. So it's this huge mountain like Jimmy pulled that picture up. You can probably please. It's a huge mountain line where the collar on his neck, what the Hollywood sign perfectly illuminated in the background.

4:07:52It looks fake. Yeah, I know. It's like this is how goofy that town is you have giant predators And instead of like killing them when you find them what you do is you call or them and release them So you know where they're killing everything. That's the photo that we have on the wall back there Look at this front paws and stuff who took that photo. It's like a famous photographer right? Give that guys They can jump a school bus that they can lengthen that they can see I was not winter Steve winter Look at that. Look how crazy that photo is That's a great picture. I stare at that picture all the time, but that that represents L .A.

4:08:26to me now just don't I had her pounds that you get a tiger Well, that was in Abu Dhabi and they had they had like baby vloggers Oh god like like just at the size where you're like okay like if they buy you like it start doing some damage Probably like you know this big like it was clearly still a baby, but it was like this big probably like I don't know 60 pounds and and they're like trying to get everyone to pick them up. And they're like, they go, hold them. Like if they know that you're scared, like they can sense that you're scared, they won't let you touch them. So I'm like, giving this fucking thing.

4:09:00So I pick this thing up and the fucking, it feels like you're trying to move around like steel cables. Like they're legs and they're fucking paws. It's like, they feel like concrete. Like they're so dense. Yeah. You ever grab a chimp, a baby chimp? No, they made a wood. They feel like they're wood. Yeah, their backs feel like they're they're literally wood. We have talked about this one We had on news radio It was like a scene in news radio that one I'm getting cut But I had to do a thing with a baby champ and this thing climbed on my with a diaper on climb down my back and whack me in the back Just what just playing just having a good time whack me in the back And I was so stunned by how strong it hit me.

4:09:35I was like that was crazy It felt like it was made out of wire like corded like steel wire That's right just a different kind of muscle Yeah, but imagine that cat that's like on your neck and you know there's a There's a little shit just relax by three or sculpt I've seen that with the monkey tears the guys head off or tears the guys Skalpa part. Oh, I hate looking at that. Yeah, don't show them It make me put it up on the screen for everybody. Oh, I saw this this is insane He goes away and he just like pulls like half of this fucking scalp just for no reason Just feels like it. Yeah, that's a bad situation.

4:10:14He just felt like it. Fuck you. Yeah, yeah, got into anything wrong He's trying to be peaceful. I am at peace. I am at peace with this monkey me and a monkey are good friends They don't make good pets baboons will challenge you Especially the males and they have large teeth. Yeah Animals all right, so this is gone full circle. Yep I'm going to be the Covina Lafactory this weekend. Come see me. We'll be wearing a lab coat on stage. That's right. I'll be wearing a lab coat. You want to learn about vaccines kind of my show? Covina Lafactory. I'm releasing my special that I shot at the mother ship.

4:10:50Yeah. One month from today. Nice. YouTube. Yeah, YouTube. I've been sitting around. I've been sitting around. YouTube's the best anyway because access. Yeah. Access is everything. Yes. And I saw you said the other night. It was very funny. Thank you, buddy. I don't want to say the material you were talking about but it was hard later and Finally kids just dropped the patreon. Oh, yeah patreon .com slash Tf a Tk and you do the show totally nude That's right. Yeah, we do Big nuts out finally. That's right. We don't get suppressed on it. It's patreon suppressively Thunder would you have to go to only fans if you want to show your nuts?

4:11:24I we were talking about me doing a patreon where I show my nuts How about a different place is red hot chili pepper style? Yeah, if I just put my nuts in different situations and we took we did video and pictures of just my nuts Guess what? No one does you gonna make less money? No one wants to see I make you see these nuts. They're big I got big nuts. Well it has it's got 765 testosterone He's a thousand years old Gordon your new Academy Kingsway. Where's it at? It's North Austin. I'm not a cloud chase. I have to chase it like these guys I'm not gonna talk about it. Yeah, wait just open this cool Kingsway I've been north Austin off on 83.

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