JRE MMA Show #143 with Sean Strickland

29:21Well like I might eat your wife's fucking fucking boss your wife's chain on you like you're fucking poor like your drug addict Like like where's your path to success from here? You were telling them this at 14. No, I was like 17 I was like 17. I was like where is your I mean fucked up. I would tell my 14. I probably would have at 14 I probably pulled the trigger, you know But I was like dude. I was training now. I was at a better place So I was like I was like where where's your fucking path to success here? Like where's your happy ending? I mean there's I won't put right fucking to dump it to his head push hand on the trigger.

29:53It's just fucking, you know Gluing your when you're my or my or sociopath too, you know, you got to get power out of that kind of get a kick out of it Like oh, yeah, I wonder if I can make him kill himself Jesus Christ Jesus Christ, but fast forward fast forward I mean I mean fucking if you can't laugh at you all your fuck that dude I mean I went through some shit growing up man, but fast forward like fast forward man You fucking you know died 10 years later fucking cancer and if you would have just fucking some people you can't help Dude, there's some people that like I mean I'm not an advocate for suicide But there are some fucking motherfuckers in the world you cannot help yeah If you would have just did it it would have saved himself 10 years of misery Yeah, and I'll do my dad my the worst thing my dad dude is like when I was a kid He was like the monster dude.

30:45He was like the fucking boogie man And I remember there's one time do my brother fucking strapped and like more talking at elementary school strapped a knife to his lady of stab him And then he bitched out last second remember like him taking off the duct tape around his leg just ripping all his hands But yeah later in life, dude. I think the first time I hit my dad I was like 17 I headbutt and broke his nose and just fell down crying. I was like so disappointed I was like even motherfuckers pieces shit dude like wow the biggest fucking coward, you know Yeah, life's crazy. I mean how'd you man?

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33:11It's a very difficult path. Oh, yeah And then you know fucking good man make fucked up kids. They make fucked up and then you sometimes You just have is but there's not really many good man out there. I'm going west coast It's hard. It's hard to be a good man. I mean, it's a lot of work We're growing up my neighbor sucks all my all the the hootlums I hung out with fucking sucked right and that's all you know Yeah, well, it's like we're talking about within our cities like it's if that's all you know It's very difficult to see a path outside of that. I mean if I you know say I fucking had a kid when I was younger like I would have fucked that kid up.

33:41I'm a fuck that kid up in a white trash trailer park I mean I wanted to beat him or put my dick in him, but like I would have fucked that kid up right? It's actually funny to always tell the story My dad's dying a cancer and he's doing like that. He's doing his like forgiveness speech I'll go see you he's like Sean, you know, I was I was really bad to you and your mom but but But at least I never put my at least I never really said never molested you. Oh boy. I was like fucking No bar Me, hey, you never fucked me. You were those oxies Fuck you ride this out with you. Yeah, man. What the fuck man, but I think also to that's why people like me because most people are fucked up Mm -hmm.

34:23They see me and they're like, oh, yeah, man Like I was fucked. I watched my mom get the shit kicked out of her to you know like I've dodged the beer bottle on Christmas morning You know, so I think that's why people like me because a lot of people are fucked up a lot of people are fucked up But you've managed to go through being fucked up to become in one of the best fighters in the world. Yeah, that's the hard path Well, man, I was obsessive like like I mean when I was a So I didn't really like when I was fucking angry to you like I mean I wanted to fucking kill someone so bad as a kid. I'd walk around with a fucking knife Just hoping I'd fucking just like fuck I still want to kill somebody It just would make me feel good, you know, I just fucking just I love it But so you had that kind of anger growing up and I needed fucking so that's why I was also white white Spiritsus.

35:08I mean could you picture being like can you picture? I don't even know what this is like and no one even interjecting my life Maybe in 12 years old walking around doing the fucking hell Hitler sleep with a fucking swastika on my arm at no point Did anybody say like hey maybe we should help this fucking kid, you know, I was in a I remember like Seventh grade I took a permanent mark on I do a swastika my arm and the teacher took me outside and like Burrated me like pretty much call me a piece of shit like do you know what that fucking means like, you know like you're like Just you're a fucking piece of shit at no point was he like hey, man Like why is this fucking like 12 year old kid right swastika on his arm right?

35:48It's fucking yeah the systems of weird dude systems well I've concerned leave you weird if you got those circumstances Yeah, but you're like best case scenario from those circumstances training man It's fucking trained. I mean dude. I was so fucking angry like and that was the best thing about fighting for me is I could go on the garage every Friday night Saturday night and just hit the bag all night long And when my brother's party my brother had things like so we didn't have like we had parents But like my dad's probably trying to fuck the girls and my brother brought over for the high school parties, you know My dad's out there probably getting a drugs and shit So like I would just be in the garage while these fucking parties and debauchery's and fucking three sums of four Sons were taken place now just being a garage fucking smack in the back Bapapapapapa and then like I was I didn't fit in so like it was it was really just a wave Oh Sean's not weird.

36:37He's a fighter Sean's not the fucking weirdo that doesn't know how to talk to people He's a fire and that gave you your identity gave him my duty I mean every night be running at night. Yeah, I mean where did you start? What's him Empire? I was starving. I was about 14 and where was that? Corona California and then And um, I'm my first like smoker fight at like 14. So I mean, but I'm fucking old now you guys. That was before amateur. I'm 32. That was like before amateur MMA. So it's like pretty much what you would do is you would just show up. They put chairs in, they buy tickets and random people would just show up and you'd fight.

37:11Yeah. So that's how I started. And you didn't even want to fight. I didn't want to fight. As a like par here was a fucking scumbag. He was just like, you would show up and like, well, if you're, if you're training here, you're fighting here. Go sell tickets. Maybe in a 14. I mean, I think my first fight was against guys like 20 years old and like, you know, my fucking nuts barely dropped dude. But yeah, did anger anger is a hell of a fucking thing, dude. Yeah. And it's impossible to grow up like that and not have anger. Fuck you. You know, it's weird though. And the thing is though, it's not like, and I try to tell people, like, I'm not necessarily anger.

37:41I'm not angry. Like, I would love to fucking cut somebody open and I'm not angry. Like, it just sounds nice.

37:52You gotta get that out of your system, buddy. But I wanted to get a spar three times. Like, like, you gotta understand, man, you gotta understand, bro, you gotta understand, like, people like, oh, go to therapy, like, you're brain dude. Like, the damage is done, bro. It's unfixable. Like, I mean, there was like, I think that sparring and training is a form of fucking thing. I spar so much. Yeah. And that's why I have, that's how it's such a good style. Why don't you hit it because I love to spar and I'm like, I can't spar. Well, your control of distance, your distance management because of all those rounds.

38:21The UFC did a test where they let us wore mouthpiece and I think that like, my whole training camp, I like, I barely got hit and I spar, like, I spared the most and took the least amount of damage in anybody in the program because you spar so much. I spar so much. But you like, is that the majority of your training? Yes, spar, I really spar. I'll hit pads occasionally, but it's all live goes. Really? All live goes. What about straight thing conditioning? You doing any of that? No, I really don't. Really, it's just just spar. Just spar, man. There's no better way to get in shape for fighting than fighting.

38:49And it's fun, dude. It's fucking fun, man. I'm such a nicer, better person, you know, like after I go and try to fucking kill a man, I come home and my girlfriend even she wants to pick a five -minute baby. It's okay to worry about it, like I'm tripped. What did I fuck up? Tell me, tell me, I'll fix it. You know, like, like, you're training, training is fucking nice, dude. Yeah. But I mean, dude, I don't like, I think a lot of people don't have these crazy homicidal urges, dude. I think we all want to fucking shank somebody, shift somebody. There's a lot of people out there that have that, yeah, there's a lot of unresolved anger.

39:20Right. I used to like, I used to sleep in my mom's bed a lot, right? Because I thought, I mean, we're talking about like, oh, when I shudder, I'm like, I'm a military school. Because I thought my dad was gonna fucking kill my mom. So every night, dude, I would like, I would go to bed thinking like, oh, shit, my mom's gonna die tonight, you know? His words not mine, so like, yeah. I mean, you got to learn to lap right? At least he didn't fuck me. I mean, I have some bad dreams, but I'm just gonna say those are bad dreams, right? Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. So yeah, you know, repressed memories are bad dreams.

39:52It's always better to just say bad dreams, right? Yeah.

39:59So I like, dude, I used to like, sleep out by her fucking, and this is where fucked up, too. Like I used to sleep by her door and here and fuck all the time. Oh. Because, you know, because she's been a little kid, dude, like, listen, your mom get fucked by your dad because like, you're so afraid she's gonna fucking die. That's so crazy. Yeah, so there's one night. There's one fucking night, dude. And this is just like, I mind you, this is nightly, this is nightly, but this night stands out the most and my mom fucking dumb bitch. I love my mom. She's amazing. I mean, she's terrible, but she's amazing.

40:26You know, she grew up in a box car. How do you fix that? So her dad, her dad was a piece of shit. So one night, like, I'm like, probably like third, fourth grade, and I went to go sleep my mom's room. My dad's like, fuck that. They're having a bad fight. I'm like, fuck, so I'm like laying out by the door trying not to fucking, you know? And I'm like, fuck it. Like I just don't feel good about this tonight. I don't feel good about it tonight. So I like crawling to the bed. I crawl into the bed. And we had like, dog. Just a white trash. You got white trash. It's got like, like, fleas everywhere.

40:55Like, fleas, so I'm like, I'm high into the bed now. There's fleas. I think there's a fucking deal that makes me have nervous. She's Christ.

41:03So me being like third grade is a fucking deal. Next to me is this fucking fleas jumping all over me. Oh, man. So my dad, my dad gets on top of my mom and she says, I'm gonna fucking kill me with this rough schedule. I know maybe I'm gonna grab the deal afterwards. So my dad gets on top of my mom and he starts fucking like, strangling her, right? And he's like, I'm gonna fucking kill you tonight. So me being a little kid, I get up and like, fuck, no one's in. I see the guitar. My sister's guitar is still mad at me about it. I grab the torch, fucking smack it if it's had a grab the phone call from W.

41:32Oh my god. I'm on that dumb bitch, Bill's on my gel. Oh, Jesus Christ. But you know, like, and this is where it's fucked up, do you like my mom? That's where like my mom grew up in a fucking box -car in Death Valley, bro. Like, yeah. Like how do you, you know, how do you fix that generation of fuck? Do you do? Yeah, well, yeah, no, that's the way. You do by becoming you. I don't drink, yeah, for sure. For sure, man. Literally the only way, like someone has to come out of that that go, like, there's a way out of this. And well, the thing is, dude, I said, I'm not like, I mean, I had a little, I had a little interesting childhood, you know, a lot of repressed memories and bad dreams and shit we don't need to talk about, but, but like, man, I'm calm and dude, I'm calm and I'm way more, I'm way more than you think.

42:14Yeah, they just don't have a voice. And this is like, you know, like, you'd especially say like the black community is the poor community's man, I'm fucking, guys without fucking dads, like, fucking rough dude, fucking yeah, life is, life's hard dude, I'm just fucking hard. Yeah, but it really is, that's the best path, like martial arts are the best path to recover from that. The only issue with martial arts though, dude, and this is like, and this is why I tell people, and if you got a kid who's trained, and let's just say you're training, what I'll tell you dude, and this is factual when you guys should always understand this.

42:48I tell everybody that comes in the gym, I'd one guy, a little Billy Bob's, a pancreation champion, and I'm gonna go out, that's cool. And I tell him this, when I was a kid, I was like 14, trained at a gym, and there's a guy named Zach Light, I'm a fucking old school youth. I'm not that guy. But he was like, you know, I'm my 14 years old, this guy's like, here with me, I'm watching him teach cardio kickbox, he and I'm watching him teach like Jiu Jitsu and like, he'll spar and fuck me up. I'm like, oh man, this guy's so fucking cool, he's a life that I want. And then hindsight, this man probably hates his fucking life, he's probably fucking half brain dead, and he's teaching cardio kickbox in classes for 20 bucks, at 20 bucks a class.

43:25So it's like whenever you look at you see fighters and you want to be this, understand, most of us, most of us end up poor, broke, and regretting our life choices. Like it's easier ways to make money guys. I love fighting, it was fighting, I'd probably be a fucking, I want to be a serial killer, I'd probably just be a, just a fuckhead in jail with a swask on my arm. But don't you think that, like that path, if you're, you, you gotta be 100 % obsessed, because successful. If you want to, but even then, man, I mean, I see guys so often in life, it's kind of funny talking about you've seen money.

44:07I was a, I have a buddy named my, I'm not a fucking name, I'm sorry, Kyle, Kyle, some Brazilian guy, contenders guy, really good, really good guy, trying to fight Bowen Nickel. Anyway, you have seen guy, he just bought his first house, having a kid, dude, like the average house in Brazil to buy is like $200 ,000, like maybe even less. I mean, that's like a nice house, the nice house, an average house in America is $45. So it's like, you know, you, you see a lot more foreigners in this sport, and you're like, why are there more foreigners in this sport? America's pussy's in like no, because they can afford it.

44:40You go when you fight, they're, they're signing guys at 10 and 10, like really 10 and 10, like 10 and 10 on four fights, man, three fights you get cut. So they, they sign these Brazilian, these daggies, what the fuck you want to call them. They go home with their 20k and they're living life good, they're living life good. How do you live on 20k and 20k and pay your manager, end pay your trainers, end pay your gym fees and food and property, nutrition. So again, I think that's also a big reason why we're, we're seeing less Americans because you know, they're taking our jobs like, fuck you, like, you know, it's easier to import them, man, it's easier to import fighters and they go back home to Daggis, Stan, Brazil and they live on their, let's just say they make shit, shit money, they're happy.

45:22Well, it's also who's talented and why they, why are they so driven and who's training them and what, what kind of environment they, America's the best, we have the best athletes in the world, man. If there was like NFL money and, and, and, and, and the, you see again, I, people think that I hate on you, see, dude, I make more money than you've seen than I should make my entire fucking life. Like I, I am a fucking company man. Like if it wasn't for the UC bro, I'd fucking, like, your piece of shit, probably a fucking drug addict. But if there was NFL money in the UC, we would dominate, dominate the UC.

45:56There would not be one foreign fucking champion. But do you think that a lot of those guys who play sports like they play, you, they play football or they play, you know, basketball, do you think they would want to fight because you have to have a very different kind of mentality to want to get into a ring or a cage with another man. It's different than playing a sport. If it was a high sure the, the consequences. If it was a high school thing and you could go get a D1 scholarship and you could leave the ghettos by, by being in Mayfighter, 100 % yeah. 100 % they would do it. Fuck yeah, man. So how do we fix that?

46:31Like money in the UC, you had to matter, I mean, fuck, I don't know, you know more about that than me. Well, there's money in the UFC for guys like you. Oh yeah, I can say. But that's also in boxing. The UFC is better than boxing when it comes to how undercard fighters are paid. Yeah. Again, and this is, I'm a company man when it comes to you guys. Like most people, most people, most guys like even if they make fucking 80k a year, 90k, you that's better than what we should have made. We're like, we fucking most, I'm a fucking loser. But how do you fix it, man? I don't know, I don't think it needs to be fixed.

47:03Well, it's better now that it's been before. We, a UFC, let me just say UFC has the most paid discrepancy. Like when you're talking about like top earnings to lower earnings, I think UFC probably has the most, I think boxing is worse. Well, boxing is worse. But I mean, we would say let's exclude boxing. But like, there's way more money at the top and the way less trickle down. But I don't give a fuck. But it's so hard. It gives it a top. I mean, imagine, imagine just trying to explain to someone what you've done to become a top contender. You only need to have one fuck up, one slip up, one mistake, two bad losses, an injury.

47:39But here's a thing to you guys, I'm not like, even though we're fucking horrors, we're prostitutes. And I'm not like, you know, I'm not like, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. We take our fucking clothes off. We can go fight a man. Come on. But it's not because porn. But it's also the ultimate form of entertainment for people that are watching. There's nothing more exciting. Oh, yeah. Good fight man. Gachi versus a Chandler that you're fighting this weekend. When you started turning it on in the second round, I was at the fucking edge of my seat. He's got him. But like, I didn't know Gachi versus Chandler.

48:11Oh my God. That was a, that was the front row than that one. Insanity. Fucking lost short in their life on that one. Yeah. But you know, but again, I'm not one of those guys bitching complaining about pay. I get, I get paid good money. I shouldn't be here. I shouldn't be making what I'm fucking making in life. UFC gave me an opportunity and you don't know how many, how many, how many opera, UFC is a common man sport right now. Fucking, you know, fucking Jamie, if he wanted to, he could train. Probably not going to happen, but he could be in the UFC if you wanted to. Anybody could do it. You, yeah.

48:38You let me restart my life and tell him to go be in the NFL. Probably not going to happen. Go be in the NBA. 100 % not going to happen. UFC is a common man sport. Any, any person on this planet could wake up one day and like, I want to be a mm. Yeah. I mean, not that easy, but you know, right. I know what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, man, you, you've seen fucking great dude. It's the best, best sport in the world and anybody could do it. Well, it's, it's not for everybody. That's for sure. And for a guy to get as far as you've gotten, that's, it's the rarest of the rare. I mean, you think about how many people are training, how many people have aspirations and then filter them all out to how many people get to headline, you know, a main event.

49:20Ideally, though, if I could, you know, if I could talk to a kid and they were to tell me they want to be, you see if I tell him, don't do it. Yeah. I would say that too. It's so much, it's America. So it's so easy to make it less. You're fucking completely fully obsessed. I mean, that's, that's what you want to do. That's the thing you think about all day long, because if you don't, there's someone out there that does. And there's a lot of UC fires. Guys that suck. There's a lot of motherfuckers that suck. Like I, I mean, I get some, extreme is like, extreme is like open doors. Anybody could come, guys are in camp.

49:48There's some guys are badass. But there's some UFC five. I'm like, did you fucking suck? How the fuck did you get here? I kind of the fuck did what short notice fight? Did you get like, you are a sacrificial lamb? There's definitely a few of those. Oh, there's a lot of those in the UFC. A lot of those. That's a weird one. The short notice fight against the top contender. Like you see some of those every now and then you're like, Jesus. Generally, that's how you get in the UC though. You're generally getting the UC by I mean, I think I took a two week notice a week notice on my first UC fight. And that's why if you're not in the UC, you got to stay ready.

50:19You got to build make way. You got to stay fucking ready. But yeah, man, great. Greatest fucking sport in the world, dude. Fucking love you. Hopefully I can fight as he the China's little slut. What is what is the status? Like who is it? So right now, Whitaker is fighting this weekend against Dreckestupecy. And that will probably determine. But I mean, nobody want, I mean, fucking dude, how many times like this would be the third fourth fight with Whitaker and Izzy? You're the last one. It's so close. That's why it's interesting to people. And you know, we'll see what happens with. But I think, I think they want to fight on the the Australian car.

50:56So we're in the works. I think I think Izzy wants it. I think Izzy wants something to manage it. Once it, you know, so we're in the works. And fucking Izzy, man, I can't stand that fucking guy. You see that you said. I love that guy. How can you can't stand up? Well, you got interviews this guy. So you got to be nice. Do you see that? No, I love him. You said that. That thing when he was like, this is the color. You look at the color of my skin. You think I'm from Africa. You seen that? No. Oh my God. You got to see it. We got to see it. But he is from Africa. Well, no, there's more. Oh, I am not Africa.

51:24I am Chinese. What? You've never seen that. Oh, man, you got to watch. You got to, you got guys, if you guys watch this, can you on your time pull up Izzy cringe? He says, I'll quote, you look at, you look at the color of my skin. You think I'm from Africa, but I am from I am Chinese. Like do that level of fucking I played it because I do a little podcast and mandates on my buddy Chris Curtis. You know, I like to have a black guy on my podcast. I should look a little bit more wholesome and Kurt never seen it too. And I'm like, Kurt, you know, as a black man, let's uh, did you say this one he was fighting in China?

52:01But like that level, like I always call him China's little slut. Oh, Jesus. Cause like dude, I mean, have you could you picture like here's the thing you guys, we have all done things. We have all been a horror to somebody. We have all been friends with somebody we shouldn't have been friends with. We have all been buddies because maybe he could plug me into this. Maybe he could give me a dollar. But like that level of fucking being a slut, dude. Like my God, how do you and then and then later on in life, they call them out for it. They call them out for it. He was like, cause they're fucking paying me.

52:31That's why. And like dude, then it makes you even a bear whore. Now you're like, now you're getting defensive. Like, oh yeah, and I can't stand fucking him. And then he's like the video of him jerking his dog off. You see that? What? Yeah. You got to not watch it, bro. I don't sit around watching people jerking the dog off. You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna, there's a video of you jerking your dog off. I wouldn't watch it. There's a video of him like fucking jerking his dog off. I've been fucking doing it. I mean, that's it. Jamie has not seen it. I can guarantee you what it told me about it.

52:58I'm looking for this quote. I, some, my type that then is bringing up stuff because you fought and trying to use it in some of them. Yeah, you just said it comes up as a short, a YouTube short. Like, is he's cringe moment? And there's also a video of him jerking off his dog and like dude, the guy is a fucking, oh man, and then fucking nail polish and God, is he just fucking sucks, you guys. We need to bring back the old, the Anderson Silvuk, do you come back? Come back. Come back. God admit to do this town. Oh, you could fucking fight, man. Here, people always say like, why you talk showing his, he like, I never say the guy can't fight.

53:31I'm not saying he's saying, is he's not a champion? I'm not saying he's saying, is he might not be one of the best kickbox in the world. I'm saying that is he is China slut? If he was in prison, he would turn you out, he would turn you in. Like, he would sell you out. Like, like, there is not the character of is he is so, so low. And this is coming from me, guys. I just told you how fucking you know, at least listen to my mom dad have sex while I thought she was going to die. So this is coming from like, I'm an expert on like shitty people, right? It is, he man. China's China's, I'm then the thing with the dry kiss.

54:04Remember when he got all mad at dry kiss? Because he'd dry kiss talked about being African. Yeah. Like motherfucker, you aren't African. You are Chinese. You're words quote for quote. Dry kiss has lived in Africa his entire fucking life. He never woke up one day and says, you know what China's giving money? I'm Chinese now. You know, it's just fucking if I ever fight if I ever fight if I ever fight is you guys, I'm going to go get a little Chinese flag. There's a slut on it. Oh boy. I'll bring it to the way in for you guys. No, all hand him is a little Chinese flag. There's a slut just for his.

54:35Do you think this is pot? Is this talking shit about him like this? Could this possibly fucking up? No, I mean, I fucking, I mean, not a fucking no. I mean, why wouldn't you want to hit the guy that, you know, says it. You're fucking jerk your dog off. I don't know. First of all, I didn't say he jerked his dog off. He jerked his dog off. I'm just I'm just reiterating what I have the video. Okay. Man, you got to see this. I don't have to see it. Oh, it's great. Don't ever want to see a dog get jerseye. I got a picture. So is he telling about you when as you take a couple of step backs? I'm going to be thinking about it.

55:08I'm going to talk off the whole fucking time. That's why I don't want to see it. But yeah, now guys, great fighter. Fucking hands down, great fight elite that that went over Paheda. That was fucking crazy. But you know, man, he's also genetically so advantage like if if if he was a normal size motherfucker, I'd walk through him. No reason why I mean, no reason why I'd be a tough fight is because he's fucking what six four, six three, 80 plus inch reach. Mm hmm. Well, nothing wrong with that. But also super fucking talented. It's like you could beat. There's a lot of tall guys that just, no, I mean, that middleweight is not many guys with his stout.

55:41Tall was a mega metal. Not even close, mega metal, like a 76, 77 inch reach, 78 inch reach. I mean, we're talking about like NBA level six three, like getting past five, six inches of reach is hard. Fucking to do. Yeah, hard fucking thing to do. Well, I was always with this culture and protocol. Oh, no, you got to do that. You got it. It's a short bro. Go black. I promise. One isn't short. This is a little longer, but but it's all like the main if you just click on it. No, I'm the black dragon. I was born in Nigeria. I grew up in New Zealand, but I have lived in China. So I've embraced the Chinese.

56:20No, bro, this is next to me.

56:25My teacher, Si Fu, Lin Zheng Shuan, came from China and he has been teaching Chinese Kung Fu in New Zealand for almost 50 years. No, you're giving it to Lin Zheng Shuan. I was a teenager. You're giving this man. Okay. Is he? I am Chinese.

56:45Put it in the microphones. We can hear it.

57:01Wait a second. Was it black out? Yes. I'm Chinese. Is Chinese hard? Yes, I am Chinese. I would try to start. But what I'm saying to you, that level, like China's little slut, you guys, that funny. It's happened to you guys. And I'll do you one. I'll do you guys a favor. I'll bring a little Chinese flag. I'll write slut on it just so this so you can wave it like you did. Like you did when he was getting money from him. Like even me, I always joke about like what you fuck China. Like fuck China. I've got him. He kicked out of you. So you know, is that my phone going off? I think so. I'm playing new videos.

57:39No, that's what you get for using an Android. Yeah, fuck it. Things just go off. But yeah, no, man, fucking China. Do you like how do you even like after the fucking like fucking? How do you even? Well, this was a long time ago, wasn't it? Yeah, I guess this was before like they were fucking yeah, we were in mocking Muslims up. We didn't have this thought about China. Like I didn't even think about China 10 years ago. China was just like, oh, they make stuff over there. Well, it's funny. It's it's a sketchy part of the world because they have an authoritarian government that controls all their corporations.

58:09Yeah, and that's what America wants. They want they want to see that and they go they want that social credit score system. They want to centralize digital currencies so that you can control what you buy. It's actually kind of funny. Do you like I talk so much? You don't know. I can't help it. Like I just talk shit on everybody like I talk shit on Jews. I talk shit on Christians. But at no point is it you coming up to me at no point. Do I talk shit on Jews all the time? At no point in my like open at my inbox. I'm seeing like a Palestine flag talking about fucking cut in my head off. Muslims all the fucking time.

58:40All the fucking time. Do you should every time I fight a Muslim, dude? It's like you guys should see my inbox. Man, it's fucking it's fucking spooky. Do you read that stuff? I'll skim through every blue moon just to laugh. You know, I mean I care about me. I want to kill my fucker. Just make my day my fucker. She's crazy. I'm UFC is gonna have the hardest time taking clips out of this one. You know, because sometimes they take clips out of like fighters interviews and they they make provost. This one good fucking like that. Yeah, fuck all those guys working for the UFC. I salute you. You got a fucking bro.

59:11They they had to cut my they cut my last press conference. They'd like edit it out. I started talking about that girl that like say my name. I remember your name. What's on the girl that died, dude? And like everybody fucking posted a fucking picture for like, like, Dan. God, dude, this is your aren't you like a fucking guy? This is your guy. I'm just trying to remember what he said. So she died. Amateur girl. Really shitty amateur fighter. She died. The letter got put to Dana and Dana posted her and says, I know your name. Because in the journal diary, the letter, the thing says, I know your name.

59:45Who is this girl? Did you wear this, Jamie? Oh, this is not her. That's not her. That's not her. Dana white posts about it. Oh, okay. But anyways, so it's a big it was a big fucking thing. And I kind of like went hard on the on the on the Instagram and I got a lot of shit for it. So so someone someone yeah, how did she die? I think our accident. But again, someone brought it up in the press conference and I just you know me like I'm like I'm like a studio comedian. I'm not quite funny, but I'm there. I'm like I'm almost there. Yeah. So every time I make a really good point, I got a fucking ruin it.

1:00:23You know, it's like I got a fucking ruin it. But again, I don't want to like, I don't want to be a fucking politician. I don't want to be a philosopher. I'm a fucking comedian. Yeah. So like, you know, what Dana white did was fucking great. You're like, I think that's awesome, man. You fucking, you know, someone showed him the journal and he's like, you know, fucking I'm Dana white. I just know your name. I you know blah blah blah. But then you had these fucking bandwagon motherfuckers, dude. You had like Joaquin Buckley just the little the cringelord he is. Joaquin Buckley do that. That guy's Instagram is fucking rough, dude.

1:00:57I like Joaquin Buckley. That actually will hang out with him to one Saturday. I like him a lot. I'm gonna hang out with him on Saturday. But man, every time I see his Instagram, it makes me want to fucking fight him. This is a cringy motherfucker, dude. Go look at Joaquin Buckley. You'll know what I'm talking about. So, you know, that little fucking attention whore he is, little buckley. Cool little kick. Jesus Christ. In the same thing, seeing what fucking step and bonner, bro, you got these fucking sluts, bro. You got these sluts that just like they want to be they want to be like different than so he posted picture for her and like, and like, oh god damn it, dude.

1:01:30Don't don't do it. Show him. Don't bring this up. Don't bring it. And then I brought it up and I was like guys, I think of the day, dude. She's a hot young white woman. That's the only fucking reason why and she's fucking trending. No one gives a fuck about her. Dana White again on applauded Dana White. That was a message directly to you. But all you have the fighters in the repost but in this and that, you guys are just fucking fags. You literally guys are just doing it for attention. And what I said, there's a lot of that. What I said, things that people do with a virtue signal. There was a Brazilian fighter.

1:02:03And he reminds you guys, I'm a piece of shit. I mean, I'm just telling you how like I try to fucking kill my dad. I'm like, my brain doesn't work right. But this Brazilian fighter died not long ago. I hit my bus XU of C fighter. And my first, my first thought when someone told me, it's like, oh fuck, man, he can't dodge a bus. Can't fucking can't dodge a punch, right? That's why he's not on the U of C anymore. Mind you guys, I've been hit by a truck. I almost fucking died once. So, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, I have a black best friend here. Like I've been there you guys. I was almost fucking happened to me.

1:02:33But that was my first response was like, but why is this man not trending? This man probably left a family. He probably, you know, he left a life. He's not training because he's a dirty fucking Brazilian. And no one gives a fuck about him. If you were a hot young white woman, you motherfucker would be trending. You would be on ESPN. Our beloved XU of C fighter died. And it's just like, man, we just live in this fake world. It's so fake. Well, that is a problem. Social media is that people have this opportunity to try to portray a version of themselves that might not be honest. Oh, it's so fair.

1:03:10Like when Stefan, Stefan Bonard died. Yeah. That motherfucker was gone, dude. I mean, I had to talk with force and force, even like force kind of reprimanded me about it. Because you know, I was rightly so you guys. I'm an asshole. I say things that are way off the cuss. There might be like an ounce of truth to it, but 90 % of it's bullshit. Right. So Stefan Bonard added me on Instagram. I'm like, Oh, shit, Stefan Bonard. I'm a fucking fanboy. I'm gonna fucking add him back. And then he would like post shit, send me messages and I block him right back. Like you're fucking nuts, dude. You're fucking piliatic.

1:03:41I want nothing to fucking do with you. Right. What was he sending me messages about? Just crazy. Like you just like, you just like a libert like he like he's a libertarian, dude, but like a lot of it just like, you know, like just fucking nuts, bro. Like his gym clothes down turn COVID nuts. But and this and that thing I got shit on. And I was on one that's like, fuck Stefan Bonard, man. I was fucking nuts. He was a fucking drug addict. Like I don't give a fuck about him. Like I didn't go and fucking force the ox. He's down a throw. I didn't fucking make him OD. So everybody got me shit on that.

1:04:11And they all post about it. And I'm like, listen, I didn't like the guy and I blocked him. But where were you guys when his life was falling apart? Where were you guys when he was publicly saying my gym is failing? I can't, I can't, I can't keep the doors open. They're locking me out. Where the fuck were you guys? You guys weren't fucking anywhere. You don't give a fuck about him. You never gave a fuck. And then when he dies, this is an opportunity. And I'm not saying I'm not going to say name or anything. But I've had a fuck I can't remember who was. But I've had conversations with people who they'd then joke about it.

1:04:45But it was like, yeah, that guy was fucking nuts. And yet they're posting something. It just fake, dude. Like if you're going to joke about his crazy ass dying and like him being a Pilatek, then you go and post about like, oh, yeah, Stefan Bonard. He was a great guy. Like, no, motherfucker, he was a fucking Pilatek. You all knew we all fucking knew there were so many people involved in his life that could have stepped in. And I don't think you should have. I dealt with pillacks my whole life. I think you should throw some oxygen. But like, as I man enjoy I ran into him when he was sober. I ran into him and he cleaned himself up.

1:05:17I was no one was this Salt Lake city about a year and a half ago. He went through a stretch that he was clean. And I was doing a show out there and he came to show and he came and he brought this stem cell doctor who runs his Utah stem cell clinic and he was clear -eyed and we had a fun talk. Forrest said too. That's a forrest said too. And I told forrest, I'm like, forrest, I'm just telling you, I've been, I mean, I was watching my dad's Nordoxys off the kitchen table when I was in elementary school. Like I know drug addicts, the guy's a fucking drug addict. And I was like, and I'm not saying forrest is a stand -up guy.

1:05:50I think forrest did reach his hand out mobile times to help him. But, you know, people involved, you imagine like your closest friend, like if they were like addicted to drugs, you'd be like, you'd be involved. Like Chris Curtis, man. Chris Curtis has a little white baby on the way. You know, a little mixed breed. Chris Curtis, I'm proud of you, man. You fucking making that money. Got your white wife. I'm happy for you. We have podcasts. Guys, it's nice. But if right now, like if if Kurt was an addicted oxy, you would help him. I'd fucking help him. Yeah. I would fucking, I would help him. But maybe he just didn't have someone like that in his life.

1:06:22Yeah. And also sometimes those guys, they burnt so many bridges that by the time the shit goes sideways, they don't have anybody that's going to stick their neck out. Well, that's why we talk about it in Segway to homeless people. People like, oh, man, like I will fucking, I won't give a damn deal. Fuck homeless person dude. You'll fucking be homeless, good drink to see water. Like, could you go, I think about me, piece of shit. But there was always something in my life that was like, okay, you can see it on my couch for a weekend. You can see it on my couch for a week. Come train here. Sleep on my couch.

1:06:48Like if you're in such a big piece of shit to where like, here's not one person. You can't call one person. Yeah. But it's like, you're saying that because you knew people from training, people that knew you and you could sleep on the couch or some people that never have that. Never find a thing. They never have anybody in their life that's any good. There's circumstances involved. I see where you're saying. Yeah. There's circumstances involved with some people where they just never get a break. Yeah. Like it's few break. Look, I got better breaks than you did. But you got better breaks than some homeless guy.

1:07:21So, okay, to that point, my family, home, my mom lives in Fallbrook, Fallbrook, California. It's a very, it's a migrant migrant community. There's this guy named Juan, fucking Juan, man. He's motherfucker. I don't even think, I think I can't even read it right. He's just, he's a migrant worker. He, uh, man, he raised the family. Right. And Rick's just fucking ass off. Like what I'm saying is, you have this Mexican guy that comes across the border legally. No license, no anything. Can't read or write. And this motherfucker is raising a family, a successful family. You know, even as so, I think only as one kid is a American citizen, but raising a successful family.

1:08:03So, it's so hard for me, man. It's America, dude. I know what you're saying. It's hard, bro. I know you're saying, but it's, you got to recognize that some people have way worse circumstances, even even me. Fuck yeah. I mean, I'm like, fuck you. I knew, I know girls have been fucked by their dad their whole life. Like, you know, I'm saying like I, I, I, and some of my friends, bro, at Disneyland, I knew I met a guy in South Africa who had a fucking kills mom. Like, like crazy. I'm, I'm fucking Disneyland. That's why I could laugh and joke at it. I think about this guy every time I feel like a bitch, you guys, every time I feel like a fucking pussy, I look in the mirror.

1:08:37And I think about my buddy in Africa who had a smoke his mom. Why do you have to smoke his mom? So again, what they do is they, like, they'll come into your village or whatever the fuck you're from. And they want to like, they want to like brainwash you. And what's the best way I do in that? And then by like having to do something so fucked up, like, you know, and then if they if they could get you to do that, then you're pliable. Then they could give you drugs and they could like make you into a rebel. I so they talked them and they're telling us all that. I don't think it's like that. I think the mom is like, I think the mom is like, kind of like if you don't do it, they're going to fucking kill you too.

1:09:13Like, the mom is probably like encouraging him to fucking. Oh, Jesus Christ. So what I'm saying, you guys, I tell myself that story once a week at least. And I might do your don't be a pussy. Wow. But you know, sometimes like it kind of interests telling your security team. By the way, Joe has a pretty solid security team. You guys don't want to little overkill fucking Joe. Not really fucking more than buying it over here. No, it's not more than buying it, not overkill. I could tell you some stories. Oh, yeah, I know what I imagine. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, man, every now and then again, this is not has nothing to do with that guy.

1:09:51He he was the same. But you got to like, you got to do some bad shit though. Like I was telling your security team because you know, they, I'm sure they've all done some bad shit. Like my buddy, Chris Curtis. So real. I didn't put so funny story. This construction worker comes to the gym. And it's on you to it's on Instagram. He comes to gym and then and Kurt's like, spawn my career. You should let me spawn him. You should let me do the work. And Kurt's like, no, I want to do what I want to do. So Kurt's being so nice pulling head kicks and like, just hit some of the body shot. He falls and he stops.

1:10:22Like, Kurt, you're such a fucking bitch. So afterwards, he's like, Sean, like he has a family. Like he has a family. Like, I'm not going to take this man out of work. Like he just, he just, he doesn't know. So afterwards, the guy says something. It occurred like, like, oh man, if I was in more in shape, I could have did better with you or something. And then Kurt goes straight angry black guy. Kurt's like the widest man you ever know. But the moment he gets angry, bro, it's like full fucking, you bond, ex angry, fucking black man. And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. Like you got to stop, dude.

1:10:54He's like trying to fight him down the park in the gym. Like, do you have your chance? Oh, look, this is what the guy was saying. Yeah. And then all of a sudden Kurt just goes like straight angry black guy. And he's like, fuck that whole thing. We're all holding Kurt back. And I'm like, Kurt, you had your chance. And sometimes you like, you just got to be comfortable doing fucked up shit. Like there's probably nothing I could do. Why would like lose sleep at night? Nothing, nothing. No, no, I mean, maybe like, you're like killing a fan member or something or like, yeah, there's probably nothing.

1:11:20I kind of want to find out. Like I kind of be curious. Like there's a part of me that like, I would never want to do it. But like, is there something I can do that would like make me say, oh, man, I don't like myself. Well, you're lucky. You're in the right place. But you know what I'm saying? They've heard that what I told Kurt, like if it was me, I would have fucking, oh, I would have fucking starched that guy as he's phone. I would have dropped a fucking people's elbow on his ass. But like, man, like you just got to, you got to push this like, got a fucking fat chick every now and you know, like, like you just so lucky you found fighting.

1:11:55It's so hilarious. But you know, I'm saying to look back on this conversation. Some day, God damn when I was 34, I was out of my fucking mind. No, dude, I fucking I think I'm gonna be this way. But like, but if you ever done something really bad, like really bad, really fucked up. Not really. Nothing really. Nothing like that. Nothing, nothing where I'm just way worse than that. No, I don't, not a much luck. I don't. But there is this moment where I'm like, man, I really like, I'm kind of curious. Like I wish like I could just do something super, super heinous just just to see how you react to it.

1:12:27Just to see if I feel bad. Yeah, don't do that. Don't do that. You know, fucked up if this conversation comes out after you've done something really bad. No, I live in the straightener. Maybe it's some shit in the past, but yeah, I live in the straightener now. That's what I'm saying. So like, embrace that. Yeah, don't be thinking about this. Bro, I live on even entertain us. I live on, know what I fucking did after my fight. I didn't go chase pussy. I went fucking hat in out my girlfriend and watch a fucking baking championship after my last bite. I'm a baking championship. Really? I watch a fucking baking fucking cookoff with my girlfriend guys.

1:12:56That's perfect. Fucking boring. I don't do shit you guys. Well, that's whatever, you know, you probably know energy after training. No, I'm fucking right as a ranger. I mean, no, I like boredom is my boredom is my Culey's heels. You're like, and that's why I actually, I get this voice on my head, dude, and you see my press conferences. I get this voice in my head. And I think it's like, I think the clinical term, it's like anti social personality, conduct disorder. So when you're a kid, you have conduct disorder, then it spirals in like anti social personality disorder. And it's like, it's borderline sociopathic.

1:13:31But one of the one of the big traits is self control. I fucking know self control, dude. Well, that's also a factor of getting hit a lot, but it was like that was a kid. I get this voice in my head and it tells me to fucking do something. And then I like, it just sits there and I'm doing it. I'm still in this car. I'm doing it. Growing up with no guidance. Growing up with fucked up family, growing up with fucked up circumstances. So I do, I sleep myself. Like I'm mad people like, oh, yeah, Sean, like, do you want to go hang out, go watch from the half? No, I don't want to sit at home. Maybe play video game, get good food.

1:14:03Like, that's good, though. That's good. They recognize that. They don't want to put yourself in situations. I can't say no. I can't say fucking no to anything. Well, your life is going so well right now, too. It'd be a fucking horrible shame if you fucked it up. Yeah, fuck you gave into the demons. Yeah, demons, but I'll do me. My demons are fucking buddies, dude. I always say, dude, I always say it like, and this is, I'm not religious, obviously. But if God and the devil were real, the only person who's ever been there for me has been the devil 100 % on my back in 24 seven.

1:14:3924 seven. But it's true. You're gonna get a bunch of DMs from Satanist now. But it's true. Like, but you got to think about it. Like, like evil deeds have been my friend. Like, when I was, again, when I was a kid and I had to do fucked up shit in my devil guitar, like, I had to like, you know, become a social path. I had to like turn shutters, man, the devil man 24 seven, have my back 24 seven made me, made me have like moral fluidity. Like I could do bad things now, and I could not feel fucking terrible about it. Yeah. Do you happy with that though? Do you like that? Or do you wish you were a better person?

1:15:13You know, it is you, I get I'm not a bad person. I for the most part, like I hold doors for old ladies. Like I do, I'm a pretty decent human being. It's just evolution, bro. It's like evolution of being a sociopath. It's like, it's a purpose. When you go like, and this is where like, this is where like, it was hard for me to understand. And you don't, you know, you don't even know this ticket holder, but like, I, I evolved my brain. My brain thought the world was different. And then all of a sudden you become an adult and you're like, the way my brain formed and grew up isn't the way the world is.

1:15:50Like my brain trained me that the world's brutal. It's harsh. You're a victim. You have to be a predator. You have to be a bully. You have to hurt people. You have to crave power. You have to want sex. And then you turn to an adult. You're like, oh man, that's not how life is. But do don't you think that you continue to evolve? Have you evolved? Don't you think you continue to evolve? Once you, once your base brain, like you could, you could slowly, like you could brainwash yourself to think, fucking, I'm a chicken. If I, if I slowly go through the process of brainwashing myself, but once your brain, once those foundations are set, dude, it's hard on set.

1:16:25Have you ever done psychedelics? No, no. Juck scare me. Drugs do. Yeah. I mean, I, I like to, I'm a dick. Like I have a fucking look at me. Coffee's black rifles. Yeah. If I, you fucking name it, I like what you said about that. He was telling me about the ridden housing. And thanks for clearing that up. Because I, I just not drink this shit. I drink this shit. Well, yeah, they got a real bad fucking rap because a lot of right wing people did the dumb shit that left wing people. Yeah. So I'm not a turned on them for no reason. They were wrong. And they, they, they weren't like, turn their back on the right now.

1:16:57So they just factually said they don't, because everyone was saying they sponsored Kyle Ridgansk, gave him a t -shirt to wear when he got out of jail. So that being said, dude, don't fucking trust the media, right? Even me. I was like, fuck black rifle. I even said that. I was like, fuck, I'm not. They gave me a bunch of free shit ones. I'm like, I, I'd not go back to wearing their fucking. Yeah, they're good dudes. I know them very well. Yes. Evan Hayford, I hunt with him every year. We, uh, we go out. Yeah. So fucking. Hey, from the horses mouth itself, you guys, they didn't fucking, you know, just miscommunication.

1:17:30No, they're about as right wing in pro -America's yet. Yeah. Kyle Ridgansk, I fucking dorked. All right. I'm a kid. So that was on point. Did you, do you watch that video? Yeah. You want to talk about a man who fucking sits there in his underworld day and practices reloads. Right. Bro, he even hit the, he even hit the slide. I don't know what it's called, but like, I didn't even know the little butt on the AR -15. They didn't know anyone even knows why it's there. But the most fucking even hit that once he put the mat or once he fucking nuts, dude. Oh, he knows how to use her gun. I mean, he was being hired to go in to protect one of the businesses.

1:18:04They were worried about being burnt down. Oh, he was hired to do that. Yeah. Yeah. It was his friends. Yeah. I thought he was just like a white kid that wanted to be here. No, no, it was an Indian family that owned, I think it was a car dealership and they were worried about their car dealership getting burnt down. So they asked him to come and help. No shit. So when they say, oh, he drove across state lines. Yeah, he drove 15 minutes away. It was 15 minutes away. He drove to help his friends. And he went there because they were worried about their businesses being looted. You know, obviously, who the fuck is sending a 17 year old with an AR to go and guard a business?

1:18:36It sounds insane. Okay, I should have done my Q. Sheep. Yeah. You watch that guy in the subway. Fucking choke that dude out. Yeah, I need to see the whole video. I need to see how long he held that choke because of the guy. I mean, you can't hold the choke for a minute. So me and me, I'm the same way. I'm generally like the, I'm generally like on the Republican leaning side where I'm like, yeah, like, you know, I thought I thought the, I thought the cop that killed George Florida's guilty. I thought that I think that like, I think George Florida is probably a royal fucking piece of shit. I don't think we should put statues.

1:19:04What happened? I don't think we should put statues in his honor, but in your custody, in your care. Yeah. The fact that man's like, hey, I'm fucking dying. And you're just like, right, my wife's fucking the neighbor. I don't care. I'm gonna hold this choke till I feel better. Right. So I think that guy was guilty. But yeah, that guy in the subway, dude, 100%. You can't like, yeah, but the guy was threatening people and the guy had a long history of assaults and crying. But I mean, dude, you do, you do, like how long do you hold a choke to kill? I do, you do, dude, dude, I wouldn't have done that.

1:19:32I would have just, once I got the guys back, I would have just held onto it and just not squos his fucking neck. I hope he gets off. I hope he gets again, again, the guy was, I don't know what happened. So the guy was just crying. Because the guy died from his fixation or did the guy have a heart attack? Cause he was on drugs. Cause this was the thing that they said about George Floyd and said he was gonna die of a fentanyl overdose anyway. Yeah. I don't know if that's true. But I don't know what the cases with this guy. But I do know that there was another guy who was holding them down that was a black guy that they conveniently left out of all these outrage articles.

1:20:03Yeah. And they tried to make it a white on black thing. Yeah, I'd be curious. I'd be curious. If I will say one thing, if it wasn't fentanyl, he died of the 100th single peak. You can't hold a choke for 50 minutes. You can't hold a choke. But it's also like some people don't know that. They don't look, anybody can teach you how to do that. That's not hard to do. Yeah, it's not like doing a wheel kick. It's like a very easy movement for your body to do every fucking kid when I was a when I was a boy, when we watched pro wrestling, they do a sleeper hold. Everybody knew it. You know, so it's like if he doesn't know any better and he doesn't know that you can't hold on to a choke because he's not trained.

1:20:38I know he was a marine, but how much I didn't teach you. They don't teach you shit. So who the fuck knows how much this guy actually knew when I'm looking at with the way he was squeezing the neck. It didn't look like you knew what he was doing. You know, it's fucked up there. Do you know this cool shit ever happens to me? You guys I walk around the earth all day long like you just waiting for it. I'm like fucking I don't think I think people would recognize just something off about this guy. Everybody will go to the next car. Right actually I actually almost killed a guy once when I've gone to the head.

1:21:05Gun to the head. Uh, fucking yeah, I fucking thank God and pull a trigger. I was at a fucking party dude and you know, some again, be being an asshole. My buddy goes or grab me and I fucking hip toss him and he puts a home of all. So I'm like I'm like night. I'm 19. I think I was going through a pretty big pretty bad court case at the time. So I was already like facing two felonies on on a parole or I was on Bell. Sorry. And uh, fucking girl, girlfriend comes on stairs said you got to leave and I'm like, you know, all right woman like my bad I fucked up like he's your friend. I don't even know you guys.

1:21:39I was invited here. He attacked me. He's my buddy, but fuck it. So anyways, as I'm walking to the door, she comes down again. She's just my boyfriend's upstairs and like you got to pay for the wall too. And like she had this look dude. She had this look like kind of like scared. You know, so me being a fucking, you know, fucked up sociopath like, oh, I get to hurt somebody. I'm like, well, if he wants to pay for the wall, he can come fucking suck my dick and earn the money. Next I know. He comes out and says, fuck it. Shotgun fucking racks it right to my fucking head. And mind you dude, guys, if somebody wants to kill you, generally you're dead.

1:22:11Like if somebody puts a gun on you and you don't get the fucking and you don't get plugged right off the back, there's a chance you're going to walk out of that one. So he's probably just do what they say. So anyway, I put my hands up and I'm like, well, I'm like, I'm like, dude, please no, man, don't fucking shoot me. Do them. So fucking sorry. That's what I leave. I want to leave. And then all of a sudden I grabbed the gun. Just fucking slam his head to the wall. Boom. Fucking falls out even the face. Take the shotgun point. As had like, shit, you not do right. I'm about to pull it to your his girlfriend jumps on top of him and starts crying and like, oh my god, begging for his life.

1:22:42So you were going to pull the trigger. Fuck yeah. But like it. But then it's like, it's not that, but no, the problem that problem was like the problem was the only way I wanted to have done it, like that's a hard case to be. That's a hard like you have the gun. He's defenseless like, it's a hard case to be. Yeah, yeah, I mean, maybe, maybe I say I felt threatened. I don't know. But the problem was I was also fucking fine to felony GBI's. Not good. Yeah, I'm fucking angry. But yeah, I was going to be my first confirmed kill. He guys on the kind of sad never happened. Well, I'm glad. Come on. Do you got to want to smoke somebody?

1:23:21Probably carry again when you got a there's be a time in your life you want to get one. I would like to go to my grave without ever killing anybody. Why? Why are you religious? Because I don't want to be involved in that. I mean, let's just say you get one free someone's free past. Sun someone's. Yeah, you're just not to be a fucking asshole. Listen to you, man. But listen to things that happen in your life and think about people that had worse things happen to them. I would rather go through life with the minimal conflict. Yeah, that's how I started fighting again is my address. So I was, I mean, fucking, I'm just rammed.

1:23:52It was probably going to wrap this bitch up. But just ramming on about my fucking life. Hey, what else do you guys like to know? I lost my virginity. Yeah, he doesn't count though. It was it wasn't consensual. But, but, uh, yeah, no, fuck man. I got arrested when I was, uh, like 18. But prior to that, I was like to do my life sucks. I'm sleeping on a gym. We've ever slept on a mat. You guys is really hard on the shoulders. Right? You probably should you slept on a mat. Usually you just kill your shoulders. Yeah, it's not good. After like a bout of fucking month of sleeping on a mat, I was like, fuck my life.

1:24:27This sucks. I don't want to be fighting anymore. So I go to our recruiter. I'm like, Hey, man, you guys are supposed to be easy to get into. I don't have a high school diploma. How do I join you guys? He's like, well, all you need is 15 college credits. And then you could blah, blah, blah, sign up for this and you could get in some like sweet 15 college credits. That's only like a couple of semesters or semester. So I go sign up at a community college in my credits. Then night I go to a party and then that little voice on my head, a little voice on my head that tells me to fucking do something bad.

1:24:59Fucking comes in my head and I fucking hurt two people. I do get surgery. So facing two felony GBI's out of pay my lawyer had to pay my billment, bill bondsman and then Kimi Cage hit me up and be like, Hey, we have a fight in South Africa. I'm like two weeks you want to go. And I'm like, fuck yeah, I'm about to go back to jail right now. I need money. Fuck yeah, I have to pay my bill bondsman. So yeah, I fucking want to take a short notice for it and it's South Africa. Here we are with the Joe Rogan. Wow. Life, dude, strange, right? It is strange. You're been arrested, Joe? No. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

1:25:32That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Well, I mean, you know, you could always like tell like, I don't know, you just painted picture of a man. Like, you know, there's not really much about you, Joe. Like you, like you just Joe Rogan, the podcast man that believes in aliens and does drugs. Like we don't really know what makes Joe Rogan tick. I mean, you know, fair factor is lost. My watch that shit all the time as a fucking kid. She was fucking awesome. But what makes me tick is obviously very different than what makes you tick. Yeah. We're finding that out today. But you got to ask yourself, like I mean, once you didn't brace that you're a better person than you were then, it seems like you kind of like fall back on this.

1:26:07I'm a piece of shit thing. It's almost like you use that as like a little bit of a shield. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have to do that. But I mean, what I don't think you are like, I'm not gonna like, I don't think you are a piece of shit. But it's also society. What is society? I think you hold on to that a little too much. Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Okay. Let me tell you something. This is how I look at it. Okay. Let's just say you believe in God. Let's just say, you know, Joe Rogan, the Christian, if he's Muslim, this conversation will very differently. But we'll go, we'll go.

1:26:36Okay. So society allows you to be a decent human being. But let's just say in your heart, in your heart of hearts, right? You're fucking the world ends and your fucking family's hungry and you go fucking kill your neighbor and feed them of your family. I'm assuming you would do that, right? If it came to do your kids, that's the plot of every apocalypse movie. I agree. So you do that. So if society is allowing you to be a decent human being, yet you were not a decent human being because you would do this if the situation had arised, are you a decent human being like with who you are? I think you have to take into consideration all the experiences that you've had in your life.

1:27:15And I don't think it's as simple as are you a good human being or are you a bad human being? Here's the thing. Are you a better human being than you used to be? 100%. Did you get through one of the most horrific childhood stories that I've ever had anybody talk about? 100%. And you can't expect someone to come out of that and be a monk. You can't expect that. Just the sheer amount of trauma that you've experienced like you were talking about PTSD, 100%. You've got that. 100%. The sheer amount of trauma. And I think you hold the I'm a piece of shit and you hold that up as a shield to sort of protect yourself and give yourself like a way out of it.

1:27:55You know it is too man. I have such little, like, I have such a little respect for humanity. And this sounds like again, I love life. I'm happy. I have good friends. I'm a girl. It's amazing. But like, right, but you don't have, you have respect for some aspects of humanity. You have respect for some people. But you have respect for some people. Some people don't suck. That's Curtis doesn't. I'm a good friend. I'm a broken girlfriend once. I shit you're not. I still fucking mad at her. Dude, it's so fucking mad. We're walking. And I was like, I want to get to know you a little better. I want to get to know you a little better.

1:28:26I was like, what would have happened if I were to kill somebody? She said I'll call her cops. And I was like, you have a magic wand. And you can make it go away. Guys still fucking dead and fucking kids are still orphaned. But you can make it go away. Would you want to wave your fucking wand? She's not put you in jail. Well, she's a girl. First of all, you're not supposed to ask those questions. It was like, you're painting a scenario that's impossible. It was like a week. It was like a fucking week of me and her like matter. And she's then she's mad at me. She's like, you're really gonna leave me for that.

1:28:57I'm like, babe, like, I'm not saying this could happen. But like, okay, for instance, I use a scenario. We were walking. We were fucking, and I was like, babe, like, you need to understand this could happen. Chris Curtis is fighting in a fucking, I don't know where it was. Florida. And there's this homeless guy walking. And then Chris Curtis. And Chris Curtis is wife or an American girl friend and whatever the fuck she is, right? And baby's mom, what do you want to call her? It's walking in this homeless guy on drugs. Veer is off and starts following him. We're like probably like 20 yards behind him.

1:29:31And they start walking to say, alleyway. And it's home. I'm clearly like, dude, if you're there, the guy's fucking following them. Right. And me, me being a sociopath. I'm like, I'm gonna kill this motherfucker right now. I'm we're gonna dark alleyway. I'm gonna spiked this motherfucker's head on the ground. And we're gonna fucking just be on our merry way. And we have two attractive women to be our witnesses. So I fucking, I'm walking all of a sudden. Kurt season starts running at him. And I'm like, like, Kurt, what the fuck dude? Like we were about to fucking kill this guy. You just, you just, and now I'm thinking, now I'm sorry.

1:30:00I think I'm a piece of shit. I'm like, dude, now I'm starting thinking, man, man, did you just like, just use your woman as bait to kill a man? Because I'm thinking everything is fine. Everything is fine. He's probably just a crazy motherfucker. He's probably just gonna grab their ass and then get me a scrucest of spiked his fucking head on the ground. So I'm like, really mad at Chris Curtis now. I'm like, you motherfucker. You brewing this. You brewing our opportunity. But anyway, but that's also easy to say when it didn't happen. Yeah, yeah. But it made him begin in my brain. It's like dude, dude, like, you keep saying you hate humanity, but you don't.

1:30:29Well, I don't hate, no, I just, you will love some people. I know what we are, but you love quality people. The problem is you just don't have a wealth of them in your life. And you haven't had a wealth of them in your life. You've had a very small number of them. They only met once you started fighting. So I gave my girl that story. And she was like, I was like, that's on the same babe. Like, there's a situation where this could happen. I might need you to embellish the truth. But that's, that's not even embellishing. That's self -defense. No, actually does attack your girl. But it was like, you know, I would have, it would have been pushed.

1:30:58But anyways, that's the most justifiable thing. I mean, what would you do man? Your wife 100 % to do what you just said? No, no, no, no. What if you're wife? What if you're wiped or something just fucked up? What if she has like, I don't know, what I'm trying to think of a scenario? What if like, what if she fucking shoots the mill man on accident? You can make a, make a wand and make go away. Would you do it? It's good question. Good question. Fuck. Hey, you do it. Yeah. Yeah, you do it. Yeah. So does that make you decent human being? Well, there's sometimes people make compromises and sometimes people have to make very difficult choices.

1:31:30Doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad human being, but it's not a good choice. It's not a good situation to be in either. I'd hide the body. I could get a saws on. Yeah. Fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking, fucking, someone with the biggest is big man. A lot of fucking desert. Oh, man, how many holes are out in that desert? Fuck. That was hilarious. Like when the late meads started shrinking and they started finding all these bodies. Fuck. They found a ton of bodies in fucking oil drums and shit. Fuck. I cannot imagine I was on a hike the other day in Vegas. You know, my chick likes it. Fuck. I hate fucking.

1:31:58I can't do it. I'm fucking. You like the hike? Well, you like to go hunch it. I could do that. Like you want to go grab a gun and walk through the, I could go do that, man. But just like wandering through the fucking desert. I'm like, oh, there's a fucking rock. Some people do it because they need to get out nature and they just like to get a little exercise. Man only hike, dude, because in the back bar brains, we think there's going to be a waterfall with fucking naked women underneath it. That's the algorithm. Good luck finding that in Vegas. And the moment, yeah, yeah, in the moment you realize you there's no waterfall with fucking pussy underneath it.

1:32:30You're gonna be like, what the fuck am I doing this? Some people like I can. They didn't grow up like you. Fuck. Do you come, who like, dude, you're just as the same shit over and over again? Yeah, but it's a peaceful thing for some people. They just like that. Yeah, dude, we don't can. You fucking do deemed killing, but it's thanks and shit. You're a fucking hippie. Yeah, I am a little bit of a hippie, but it's different people, man. Different people. They come from different walks of life, different circumstances. And they have, I don't think you're a bad guy, Sean. No, I think, I think you use that as a little bit of a crutch.

1:33:02I mean, it's nice. But I do know that if someone did fuck with you, you would spike them on the head. Yeah, that's that too. Well, the shit you think it's as we talk about this can be really hard case for me to fucking beat. Right? If something happens, this is going to be fucking uses for sure. What I'm saying you guys, I just recently found Jesus Christ. That's the move. So I make fun of fucking everybody. Jews and Muslims, everybody do what Muslims are fucking not so. They get very, very, very, very upset. Yeah, so any shit about it. So there is a guy named Albert Derov. And like, we have a lot of Muslims at the gym and I fucking love these guys.

1:33:39You're like, they're fucking, you know, they're fucking solid motherfuckers. So one day Albert Derov, I'm out of the heart of Muhammad. Like everything that you weren't supposed to do, I'm like, well, let me show you this due to license. Oh, Jesus Christ. They Twitter, check this out. Right? Let me give a fuck. It's America. So one day fucking, you know, Albert Derov comes up to me and he was like, Hey, Sean, could I talk to you? I thought he was going to show me a move. Albert Derov is a great wrestler. So I'm like, all right, sure, I'll be your wrestling dummy for all these little Muslims coming to cage.

1:34:11And they're like, and I go to like get on like, like, what we didn't guard? What position we in here? Albert is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sit down. Sit down, show me. I'm like, oh, fucking me. Put this hand on my leg. Muslims do your super touchy feels, they're like, man, it's so fucking weird, man. Like fucking, everybody, they've got a bunch of Muslim guys here. It's like, fucking, it's, it's, it's a friendly, super friendly guy. It's super fucking friendly. It's so odd, especially because of religion. So it's like, Sean, Sean, Sean, in my country, I cannot be friends with you. I'm like, what are you fucking talking about?

1:34:41He's like, you say things, you say things about Islam. It's my, like pretty much saying that like, I cannot be friends with you because what you say about Islam. I've never, I mean, I make fun of Jews, Christians, fucking Scientologists, fucking, you know, I make fun everybody. Right. So after that, they fucking after you crest my leg and rub my head a little bare, I was like, fuck, I do. I'm gonna lay off Islam. So Albert Derog is why I fucking, you know, I give Islam a fucking pass, which makes me a sell out, but no, it doesn't. I like it. Listen, man, there's, there's fights that you should pick.

1:35:14And it's not necessary. It's like, also, it's like, that belief system helps people keep some discipline, keeps them on a good path. I mean, how many great fighters are like devout Muslims? It's a pretty high percentage. I mean, it's one of the most popular religions in the world. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of the most popular religions in the world, but it's also it's a religion that embraces discipline. Yeah. 100%. I mean, you go through Ramadan, you're not eating all day, you're not drinking any water all day. I mean, the fact that guys, it's also not really compatible with American values. It's not compatible with some aspects of American values, especially when it comes to women, gay rights, things alone.

1:35:52Well, I mean, it sounds reasonable to me. There was a God and God and his rifle wisdom, you know, as he created the earth and he created the, he said, these fucking horses, we need to cover this. I mean, that sounds fucking reasonable to me. I mean, I just said, I don't want women working. Maybe I'm a fucking Muslim, you guys. I like pork though. God damn it. Well, you said you don't want women working because you recognize the importance of a mother's role. It is a job. It's just not a job that pays money. I look because of that. It doesn't get, doesn't get supported. It's the the fact that raising a kid is a fucking insanely difficult proposition.

1:36:28And the fact that we expect people to rate three, we expect, expect people to raise kids while they also are doing, you know, a job, a fucking eight hour day job and then commuting and being exhausted. I'm on work. Yeah. Okay. What did you guys ask for from mom before? My mom was a secretary. Okay. What'd you step down? Do it as an architect. Oh, fuck. Okay. That's a bug. So you, you were, and you were, well, he went through school when I was a kid. So like we're poor when, when I was young, we were very poor. We're welfare, food stamps, the whole deal. And then as I was in high school, he started making money.

1:37:03How old are you when you're like, hey, I want to be a comedian. I mean, that's 21, 21. Yeah. Did you think about doing stand up? No. I think you do a little bit. I'm fucking. I just like, my like, I don't try to be funny. I just been retarded. Yeah. Well, Jim funny is a funny kind of funny. Like that's how I got into comedy by making people laugh in the gym. It's locker room talking steroids. locker room talk on steroids. Also, there's like, it's gallows talk too. Because everyone's sparrings. There's a lot of nerves. It's easy to crack the ice. It's fun. Oh, man, Dominic Cruz has a fucking weird Jim.

1:37:36I mean, you can shoot a Dominic Cruz. Alliance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's also going to quote by the way. Colleel roundtries and a cult too. What do you mean? They're gonna call. Yeah, they're like a weird fucking cult. We're called. I can't stand Colleel. Roach around. What? I love that guy. God, this fucking he just, because he doesn't know these people intimately. Well, I love him talking to him. I enjoyed talking to a couple of times. Yeah. He's a dirty fucking feminist. What? Like, I'll tell you a story. I can't stand this fucking guy. You guys like, you seem to not like most people. I don't like you and Chris Curtis against the world.

1:38:05Well, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. So I used to run a wrestling class at Jim Azat and somebody invited roundtries. I'm like, I'd tell you why. So I'm like, when you guys are wrestling, you got to pick the fucking baddest motherfucker and you got to go with them. And if I see going to curl around tree, I know that's not what you fucking did. You're being a pussy. So I said that speech as like a raw raw moment for Clio to be like, fuck you, Sean. I'll show you. I'm gonna show you fucking what's up. And I thought it was gonna make him step up and fuck me up. But instead he stormed off the mat.

1:38:46He just fucking walked off the mat. And he was like, Sean, I don't respect you. I don't like you. I'm like, yeah, because you're fucking feminist, pussy and a cold. So what cult do you keep saying cult? So there's like this weird, like, Las Vegas. Like, I think don't quote me on this. I heard somebody was telling me dominant cruise was in it, but I don't want to fucking dominant cruise that fucking chick I was in to when I was like 16. So I'm so salty. I am like, you know, like, like, bro, like the hottest, like, you know, the hottest thing should be here with strippers. Oh, you were 16. You're still holding a grudge.

1:39:18I was like 17. I was like, seven years. You know, like that one when you half your life ago, we know when you get the hottest piece of ass ever, like a kid, dude, this girl, she's a little older than me. She's like a little model. I'm like the best piece of ass over her. My life sex with her on the beach of the gun. It was awesome, right? So I actually kind of find out. I was having sex with her on a beach. And there was like a second, a fish run.

1:39:42Cam flashes all down the beach. Yes, I did not stop. But continue back to my story. So I'm so salty because later in life, I mean, he's like, he's on his road to being a fucking chain. He might have been a champion at the time. So she went over there and started fucking him in. And she told me what is this cult thing? But they're late in bed. She was like, he's such a, I'm so, I hate myself for knowing this. I hate my, but I'm gonna tell you guys. I'm if I know, you guys need to know it. Because yeah, it's such a weirdo. He just lays in bed and watches fucking fight videos and plays with the cats all day.

1:40:12I'm like, well, fucking name, man. That's how you become great. That's how you become great. That's why I'm not fucking anymore. Fuck it. It's our watching fucking. What does that have to do with being in a cult? So anyway, it's fast forward. I just want to tell you the fucking story. Oh, sorry. Yeah. This is good. The fucking your fans like fighting. Yeah, you guys know, Dominik is the fucking weirdo and he's stole my chick. Fucking do we, right? Fuck him. I love that dude too. Actually, I actually really like Dominik. He's awesome. I talked to him every time I do, like, pre -fight media. He's there.

1:40:40I love Dominik. He's a lot of fucking you, dude. Anyway, so there's like this weird, like, church, you're like, like, it's like a self -help cult. And one day, one day, like, Cleo came and like, took somebody out of training and was like, oh, I don't want to, like, the kid didn't want to fucking go. Chris Curtis is the witness to this. And the kid didn't want to go. And like, it was kind of like a weird abduction situation. Yeah, he's like, and I could, like a self -help weird group. But no, no, you guys, let me tell you guys about Cleo. If you knew him on a personal level, you would fucking hate him.

1:41:10Unless you're a dirty feminist. There is this girl named Olena. Olena. She's a p -thel girl. This is, you're sorry about Cleo. Let me tell you why. Hate Cleo. Tell me why. Olena, p -thel girl, shabberhead, kind of looks like a man now, but, you know, whatever. Yeah, she had to make way, I guess. So Olena, dude, she's like fucking 510 big, dude. She big, dude. Like, she's like, like, she's big, dude. She's not like, she's not a sexual predator. I mean, she looks like she could be a sexual predator. So Cleo round tree is showing somebody a move and she walks up to Olena, the Ukrainian girl and like puts her like in a move.

1:41:46And the Ukrainian girl who looks like a fucking, I mean, dude, she looks like a, you guys Google. Anyways, she's like, oh, sexual harassment, but she said it jokingly. And like, if you see her, it's funny. Right. In round tree, it's like, that is not funny. I'm a black man in America. You, you, you cannot even joke about that. And we're all like, black guys, white guys, we're all sitting like, dude, Cleo, what the fuck is your problem, bro? Like, it's a joke, man. But yeah, he's just, he's just a fucking girl, dude. Like on a personal level, you guys don't want to hang out that fucking guy. Okay.

1:42:19I like him. You know, I enjoyed talking to him. Well, yeah, you know, I'm not in that situation with him. Yeah, you were, you were in a, you're also very, you're going to tell him that you don't want transgenders in the sport. And next thing you know, he's in a fucking accuse you of touching him under the desk. Really? No, I'm just, I mean, he's a, he's a feminist. Is he like a self -proclaimed feminist? Yeah, like, he's just like, I think people say things like that. Okay. Because they think it's a good thing to say. I might tell you guys another insight. Let's go. Come on. Let's go. It's great.

1:42:44It's great. It's great. It's great. It's great. Because the guy's not here to defend it. No, this is, this is back. Let's just back. All right. I was hitting on a chick once. And he ended up dating this chick. So this is before I knew Cleo kind of sucked. And I go, yo, Cleo, like, you salty motherfucker, man. I was talking to that girl and like, you ended up snagging her up like you motherfucker. I'm jealous. Right. He goes to the PI. And I guess this is after they broke up. So I thought like a couple of years passed, it'd be funny now. If I tell him that like, you know, I was, you fucking snagged her from me.

1:43:14Right. And then a couple of years passed. And I tell him this. And he goes to the PI. And he files a complaint in the performance institute that I brought this up. And I made him feel like uncomfortable or sad. The guy at the time around the PI, he had to come up to me. He was like, yeah, man, Sean, I got to tell you this. Like, you know, I can't tell you who it was. I'm like, dude, it was funny. Like everybody in the physical therapy team was laughing. Like, it was fucking funny. It wasn't bad. So yeah, you're right. Cleo's a great guy. I just fuck. Yeah. I love Cleo. I know what you're saying.

1:43:50I know, I know what you're saying. It's not like your sense of humor with a sensitive person can create real problems. But I didn't know that people like make formal complaints at the ultimate for fighting championship performance institute. That's what I'm saying. And then mind you. That's crazy. I even asked the PT team. I'm like, guys, that I like, because you know, I'm an asshole and I say a lot of crazy shit. I'm like, did I go over? Yeah. I'm like, because he was a very sensitive guy. And I think, you know, he's gone through these journeys where he's all in and fighting and then not all in and fighting.

1:44:18That was actually really funny, by the way, when he told his mom to shut up when he was like coaching him, he like looked over. Shut up, mom. Oh, did he? He didn't see that. He was like, no, fight, bro. He like, he told his mom shut up, mom. That is distracting for mom screaming. Is it was it at the apex center? Oh, fuck. I know. I think it was like a big fight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Fuck. But yeah, I guess I'm just a contie. There also is that, you guys. You're just listen, I like you, but I get people like you. I've been around people like you my whole life. I get it. I know what it's like. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of people like you out there in the world.

1:44:47It's like as long as you understand what a person like you's been through and we are, it's fun. I mean, Cleal, again, the thing about Cleal, I think you make like a little more fun. Cleal might be the first trans trans female athlete. He's already fucking sensitive. That's one thing that I'm happy that you have to see would never allow. Oh, dude, every time I go on the news, I think like Joe Rogan's a big aghain on the trans. What the fuck is going on with people allowing biological men to compete against women before I would I mean at all the sensitive shit, I'm a pretty sensitive person. I'm pretty open -minded, but you got to like somebody sent me like a video of a guy in a dress with a heart on in a bathroom.

1:45:29You see that video taking photos of them and they're like, so you know Gabby Garcia that sure I trained with her ones. I was like, and I was like, fuck before we trained I was like, told the coach like, dude, I'm not the fuck this chick up. She's bigger than me. She's huge. And I was like, am I going to have to fuck this? She's on all. Yeah, I just can't. No, her fucking clip is probably bigger than this fucking can. You know, I'm like, am I going to have to fuck this chick up? And he starts laughing. I'm rolling with her and then she was just weak. Like she just felt like a bad chick. Yeah, well after that, I was like, oh, fuck.

1:46:00Yeah, it's there's a weird thing going on in this culture with gender and it's not good. You know, it is not good. There's no more there's no more battles, man. There's there's women are working. There's no more racism in the real. I mean, there's still racism, but you know, it's equality. Like people just need something to fight over. But it's also an easy way where you can become special. I mean, the New Jersey just said that there was a 4 ,000 percent increase in kids identifying as non -binary. First of all, what the fuck does that even mean? And allowing someone to say they're non -binary to me is like, listen, you don't have to embrace masculinity and you don't have to embrace femininity.

1:46:40You don't have to. But you've got to be able to go to a journal. Yes. I mean, we're just we're making people special with no effort. And if you just say you're a thing and a them and every has to say that and if they don't say that, you can yell at them, which is what, you know, I'm surprised you don't tell the line. I'm shocked that you take that opinion. Fuck that line. Fuck that line because that's crazy. This line, the line biological males compete against females. That's the line. This is a true story, man. Again, like Harold and the fucking Sean, the storyteller, I was at Team Quest and there was a fucking a transgender fucking of the fucking column.

1:47:18The woman, male or woman. It was a fucking dick. Any way to address. Okay. So you know, whatever the fucking column. And this fucking guy dude, he would go spar and my girlfriend, my ex girlfriend at the time, would go spar, these women and like break their fucking nose in and like, fuck them up. And like, there's a lot of that. There's a lot of like they would go fucking, he's going to locker room. He has a family. He had, you know, it later on in transition, you have a fucking family going to locker room, you know, my girlfriend, their big cheese. Am I actually a big cheese hanging out right now?

1:47:45They're walking around their dick hanging out. Oh, I'd fucking fucking it. It's crazy. It's crazy that first of all, there's a thing called auto -gainafilia. It's a real thing. And it's a thing where there's a fetish where men get sexually aroused by pretending that their women are dressing up like women, but they want to fuck women. Yeah. And so they're, they're heterosexual. So they want to have sex with females, but they identify as a female for this kink. And you know, there's also trans people that for whatever reason, nature through macaure ball, they're in the wrong body. Yeah, but you can't fucking compete against women.

1:48:17Yeah. But man, it's not fair in any way, shape or form. You, every now and then, you'll meet kids, right? And like mask and father, you're like, oh, man, that kid's gonna be gay, for sure. Like you meet kids, dude, and they already got the list. It's like, dude, you're like fucking 10 years old and you're dead. Yeah, but that's, but gay is normal. Gay is just nature. So that's the other thing, dude. I'm pro, like I'm pro. Like if you, if you're a dude, if you're a dude, and you want to suck a dick, go suck that dick, dude, suck all of it. I know you said that about if you had a kid. I thought that was hilarious.

1:48:45Like, don't be wrong. If I had a kid and I think he's gay, I'm gonna do everything I can to make this kid not fucking gay. I'm gonna, I might even take him to therapy. If he has a list and starts walking around like this, dude, I don't want to fucking gay as a kid. But that's reasonable. You talk to gay dudes. You talk to gay dudes and gay dudes don't want gays as a kid being gays fucking hard, man. You gotta like, yeah. But if at some point, my kid turns 18 years like, damn, like, suck dick. I'm like, kids suck all that dick you want. Get in there. Get the white dick, get the black dick, get the yellow dick, all the dick, dude.

1:49:17Yeah. You know, get a good, get a boyfriend. Hopefully I like him. Do you will be interesting things giving? Well, this is the weird thing about this whole LGBTQ like coalition, like a group of people all connected together because a lot of my friends who are gay, they don't like what's going on with this movement because they think that a lot of people who just would be gay are getting convinced into becoming trans. They're getting convinced into becoming that they're really are untrue. But you know, we're losing it right? You know, you know, we're going to lose this fight. I don't know about that.

1:49:49Oh, we're going to lose this fight for sure. You know what does I mean? So it's like, you gotta understand, dude, we're going to, they're going to look back at us as like, like, like, we're going to be the old racist white guy. We're going to be the old racist white guy in the port saying, I remember my day when fucking black people couldn't go to school. That's how we're going to be viewed. I remember in my day when, when chicks had vaginas and dicks and dudes had dicks. Eventually, this is what the system wants. This is what the system gets. We will not. I think the system wants anything. I don't think that's what's going on.

1:50:22I think there's what I said earlier. I think that's there's a, there's an out. And I think there's also a lot of people that are teaching school that don't have children of their own. And that also they get social value and social brownie points for embracing gender ideology because it's the like, but how many generations until we lose? How many generations until depends on what happens? One thing that, well, this is, this is the question. Are we at the fall of an empire? Because if we are at the fall of an empire, I've talked about this before, but Douglas Murray, who's his British intellectual, who's also gay, by the way, he says that at the end of every empire, they become obsessed with gender.

1:50:58And that is one very weird thing that I never saw comment. If you came to me just fucking 10 years ago and said that gender and transgender ideology would be the thing that the president would be talking. He'd be sitting there with Dylan Mulvaney getting interviewed three day 365 of a womanhood. Imagine that's like fighting in the UFC. You start training a year ago. Like you're interviewing the fucking president. You only been a woman a year. What about all these other actual biological women that are running around that have been a woman their whole life and you get in only because you're you could be a woman of a year.

1:51:30Exactly. Exactly. There's a reason why men are better than women. Look, we even make fucking better women. Caitlin Jenner was like woman of the year six months into being a woman. The whole thing is nuts. And it's it's again, it is a way where people become special without doing any work at all. Your kids, but I'm saying your kids kids will maybe. I don't know. I think it's turning around. I think people are pushing back against it now because they're realizing how fucking insane it is. But there's certain people that are just lost in the trance. And they're just pushing. Are these people like are they 14 year olds?

1:52:04Are they kids? No, they're no, I mean, adults. But yeah, but young kids too. I see it with young kids today too. There's a lot of young kids that are pushing back against us. Yeah, man. I remember, I remember when I was a fucking kid, dude, it wasn't like when I was a kid, there were still hate crimes against Gaines. Yeah, I'm 32 you guys. So like it was fucking weird. I remember I'm sure there's still hate crimes against Gaines. Yeah, there are. Again, there's hate crimes against Gaines. Like there's always shit, but it was common practice. Like it was like we bullied the fuck out of Gaines. I remember there's one kid I wrote.

1:52:34He wouldn't let me cut in lunch line. I mean, my buddy Lily pinned him against a wrong bag on his white shirt and then being gay. Like a crazy progress, man, progress in the last 10 years and getting I'm like, you guys, I was an angry, hateful fucking kid. Like if I could go back, I'd fucking wave my wand and what a fucking happy. Do I feel bad? Probably not, but I was an angry, it caused an effect. But man, the amount of progress that happened for the Gaines and such a short process. Yeah, wild. Yeah. And I think a lot of people think that amount of progress is happening for the trans movement too.

1:53:06But I think what has to happen is things go too far and then they even out. And then we for what's really going to be a fucking long string of lawsuits, which is 100 % common is these detransitioners. These people that were forced to transition or encouraged to transition when they were kids, which is fucking insane. When I hear people talking about hormone blockers being reversible, like what, but what at what cost? Like what is going to happen? Like there's a lot of people out there that no longer can have children. They didn't don't have their penis anymore. They don't have their own reason.

1:53:41They cut the breath off. I'll tell you what, so social media is a fucking plague of the earth. Everybody wants to be special. Yes. And you know, if you're if the transition, it's a way to be special. Right. Just to work that the way to be special. And you immediately get loved because of it. And it's a way to become special without putting in any work. If right now, if I like, if I put a fucking wig on and I said, I mean, look at all these Navy seals that fucking cut their dick off or wouldn't next thing you know, they become special. How many Navy seals are cutting their dick off? They're a watch that one, dude.

1:54:10Kristen Beck. Yeah. Yeah. He like on the podcast before. He thread in that. He went back to being a man again. He thread in that little Jewish kid. What's that little gym bench up here? Oh, that one. Yeah. Yeah. I would love if that's happening. I'm like, I felt the same way. I never smacked a woman. But yeah, I'm gonna count. This is a woman. Yeah. That one was nuts threatening them because he was saying that he's a man. Well, I mean, but what I'm saying though, it's like, dude, everybody wants to be special. Like I'm like, dude, I'm like pseudo famous. But you're you're becoming special through hard work.

1:54:40So you understand what it's like to be special. Everybody wants to be special, but they don't want to fucking not everybody wants to work. And if there's a pathway for young kids, especially this this generation where everybody wants a quick fix for everything, if there's an instantaneous pathway for you to become special, all you have to do is make your hair blue and say you're a day and you wear a dress to school. I got to ask him to be before we're on time. Okay. What about a firm affirmative action ending? How do you feel about that? I don't think all is seen in the scene is gonna love you or hate you.

1:55:10No, no, no, fucks you. And I don't think that's I don't think that's the solution. I don't think affirmative action is a solution. I think the solution is what we talked about earlier. Finding these impoverished crime -ridden communities, whether it's white people in Appalachia, where they're all on fucking pills, or whether it's black people that live in Baltimore, or Puerto Ricans that live in the Bronx, whatever the fuck it is, we have impoverished communities. We can't just leave them alone. We can't just let that's where everything's fucked. They should elevate the quality of education, elevate the quality of life, and it should be a gigantic project that the whole country gets behind.

1:55:48That's what I think is the way to fix things. Well, I mean, systematic oppression is a real thing. It's a real thing on white people and black people. Yes. Like I always tell people, man, like it's actually kind of funny. I got in a sh - I got a shit storm because I said, what's his name? He's a D1 wrestler, black guy. And I said he was like the what, and I made fun of him from not being black. What the fuck's his name? Phil Hoss. I said, like, Phil Hoss went in train with me and like he was such a pussy. Like he was like, he was like, I was like, hey man, like you're a middle way. I'm a middle way.

1:56:18Let's like bang a little piece. Like, Sean, are you sure? Are you sure you want to spar hard? I'm like, yeah, dude, let's fucking, fucking fight. And then you're not usual guy. You have to understand like just that alone. How many guys are like just banging all day for training? So anyway, he quit. How many guys? I mean, I think about what your style, but listen, my segue to that. Okay. I used to train at a black gym. I'm a millennia with Lorenz Larkin, one of my mate, Jonathan. Yeah. I mean, one guy had a fucking bull. That's a great gym. Every time you grab his arm, you're like, oh, you're moving my fucking bullet.

1:56:50You got shot in San Bernardino. So my experience of black people were like hardcore hardcore. Like I was the white. I was the fucking like, like when you get arrested, you guys, and this is at least in California, whenever you get walked to your cell, they're, they segregate the whites and the blacks and the Mexicans. Whites and Mexicans roll together, blacks, real separate. They're segregated, at least in the county I was in. Amber, you walk by this fucking cage. You walk by this cage. You got these black people. And that's how kind of millennia remind me, we got this black people crown the bars with a fucking big old beard, like talking shit to you.

1:57:23Like I remember forget, dude, I got, I got into my jail cell and there's a guy named Spider. And he's like laying down. He's helping make my bed. He's laying down the rules. I'm like, I told him I was like, dude, I'm not like I'm not racist. Dude, like I don't hate anybody. I told this guy this. He's like, yeah, it's not works here, man. I should do your with us. Are you with nobody? And I start thinking about walking past that, walking past that, you know, black, black segregation. And I'm like, you know what, man, I'm not the person thought of this, but I think I think I might, I don't think I'm beginning tattoos anytime soon, but I think I might be, I think I might be widened with you guys.

1:57:56So anyways, that's kind of how millennia was. I walk in there and I fucking be like the little white kid with long hair and I'm like, oh, you fucking, you know, the tarzan does the tarzan powder and I got the shit kicked out of me by his black guys. I never forget this black guy comes up to me once. I should draw out the Wilson guy with the bold and his arm. He was Sean. It doesn't matter how nice you are to me. You could walk in here and fucking, you know, be nice to me, ask me on my days. I'm going to fuck you up regardless. And I was like, and that's like, I want to hit me like, oh, yeah, like, I gotta go in there.

1:58:27I got to get the big dick. I got to get the big black metaphorical dick. You know, I need those big old chocolate fucking nuts sack. So now I walk in there like, you know, fuck you Wilson. You guys ready to fucking, and I started doing better. I started becoming more of a presence. So whenever I told that about Phil Haas, everyone's like, oh, Sean Strickland's racist. He thinks that all black people are ghetto and violent. And, you know, in hindsight, there is some truth to that because I did say that and that is kind of what I was implying. But what I meant by that though is I like those people.

1:58:59To me, you are a fucking nerd. You're this white person that I don't fucking like. I like the ghetto, the trashy, the boxers. Hardcore dude. Yeah, I like the guys. Well, I got fuck this guy. You know, I like those guys. So guys like to talk shit when I spar like you. So they feel took it as an insult. But to me, it's like, I was insulting you because I respect those, I don't respect you, Phil. I think you're a dirty fucking motherfucker. I think you're pussy. I think you're privileged. I think you have a D1 education. I think you're a fucking bitch. And then, you know, my boys back at millennia, I love those fucking guys.

1:59:32You're gonna fucking love those guys. When did you start training the way you train now? Most of your training is just sparring. Well, I mean, again, I spar. I fight. I fight some allowed to train. I hate you. I hate fucking fighting. I'm fighting sucks. You have my paycheck goes if I lose, like fighting sucks, man. I hate that. We talked about it with, I had Matt Sarah, Dean Thomas and my friend, John Rolo on the podcast. Guys, guys fight. It's like guys fight way hard. It's like slavery, man. Like again, I'm not saying you've seen slavery, but slavery only ended for one reason because it's a shit means of production.

2:00:08If you pay guy people money, they work harder and they do more. And that's kind of how like MMA would be. If you guys just paid a little bit more money, guaranteed pay, it would be like the new form of capitalism guys would fight. I mean, there is when I thought no one is, no one's incentivized to fight harder for a win bonus. They're fighting as hard as they can. When I fought Jared can near again, his corner won that for him. Dude, it was crazy. I mean, I had the announcers coming. Like I was like kind of a born fight, but you won. And like his corners, you all like, oh, all this one like those punches aren't land.

2:00:40I have a chin of a girl. You guys see an Alex knock me. You touch my chin. I fucking fall asleep, man. I don't want to tell you. But you know, that that third fourth round came and I'm like, you know, dude, he's none of these puncher landing. You know, I have one mark on my face. Like, I'm landing him. I'm rocking him. You know, like I'm winning this fight. I'm just gonna fucking, yeah, I'm just coasting when this bitch. And then that's why I was so upset about it. Fight. But if they were like, hey, Sean, guarantee pay, maybe we double trip or what you may, I would win in there. My mouth, we said, our mother fucker, let's bang.

2:01:07But you know, half your paycheck. God. Also with bad judging. Half your paycheck with a decision that people don't even agree with. And you lose half of your money. You know, all my mistakes, all the time. You know, my mistake was I should have put Chris Curtis in my corner because like, because Kurt would have talked like so, whenever they're he, he threw a couple combinations, all miss. And the course coach is like, yeah, man, those are great. Those are all fucking landing. I'm like, when you box, man, when you box, a lot of punches look like they're missing by like, you go turning your channel.

2:01:41If you go in a slow motion, I mean, after the Jericho and your fight, I had bruises all over my chest because that's where he was landing. And I kind of wish I had Kurt in my corner just to tell his corner to shut the fuck up and say, no, motherfucker, those aren't landing. What are you talking about? Right. Right. That is a crazy thing though, especially the apex boy that can influence judges because the apex, there's no fucking crowd noise. You can hear everything. Everybody. I mean, my whole chest was just bruised, but I mean, those aren't landed punches. Right. So yeah, I really wish they would change that.

2:02:09But I wish they would too. That's the, that's my only complaint about the UFC really. They wish people got made more money and I wish people didn't have a fucking win bonus. They just, they don't have that in boxing. Yeah. And I see other MMA organizations adopting it too. And I'm like, man, this is an opportunity to stand out. Don't do that. If you ever got to know, like, any boxers on a personal level, yeah, I've known a few boxes. Man, that's so shady. You guys want a shadiest business. Like guys, they're, they're like most, most low level boxing fights, like between, tell you get to like 25s, 18 fights.

2:02:40Generally, these guys are paying their opponents a fight. Very, very often. That's why when you go looking at a boxing record, it's like, what the fuck did you've lost? You've had 105. It's like 90, you're like one in 99. Right. There's a lot of setups. But again, it's not that they want the setups. It's hard to get because these fucking boxes like princesses, they know how important their record is. If they take one bad loss and they go from 16 to one, right. It's a fucking restart. That's one thing that I really do love about MMA is that when fighters lose, it's not the end of their career. And that the sport and the culture of sport has embraced the fact that guys get better to losses.

2:03:16Boxing's also easy though. It's definitely easier. Yeah. But I mean, like, but it's different. I wouldn't say easy, but it's just at the highest level is not easy. I mean, you, when you watch like Loma Chanko, Devon Haney, there's the highest. There's nothing easy about that fight. Yeah, fuck Loma Chanko. So fucking good. Fuck, he's good. I was telling my buddy Robin, 16 to no guy. And I was like, what we spar on Friday? I'm like, Robin, what did you do all week? Man, tell me, tell me about your fucking week, Robin. He goes, well, I ran. I hit paths. I did bad work. I ran. I'm like, well, I fucking, I wrestle.

2:03:45I grappled on fucking Monday. I sparred on Tuesday. I wrestled on Thursday. I sparred on, you know, I sparred on Thursday, Tuesday. And like, now me and you were boxing, sir. Yeah, boxing is fucking. That's why I fucking. It's definitely easier. And also the less guys pull out of fights for sure because you have less injuries.

2:04:04When I was like, that's why I fucking for France want to do boxing is easy. Well, also he wants a big ass pay down. I really like 37. I really wanted to watch and fight John Jones. I did too. I did too. You'd be very interested. I think John Jones hates me though. John Jones hates you. Why? I just go hard on him, dude. He put, he posted some fucking thing. He were both sponsored by monster too. And almost fucking room. I said monster deal. Yeah, he's, but like, he posted something and I don't follow John. I like John. John Jones is again, I don't think John Jones is the greatest because you get popped for that kind of steroids.

2:04:36I think this should be lifetime bands for steroid use, lifetime fucking band. It'd be one thing if like, like you have a tainted supplement, like like to say like this was tainted. And I'm like, you know, this is what it was. Joe Rogan fucking gave me this. Right. Maybe whatever. But a lifetime band dude for, for intentional use. Do you know that he intentionally used though? I mean, I do. Imagine ruling a guy's career. If you're wrong, I mean, I mean, I'm sure fucking Jamie could pull it up. But I'm pretty sure he was like, I'm pretty sure it was like some shit, right? Well, here's the thing.

2:05:04Derek from more plates, more dates .com. You ever see that guy? That guy is the most knowledgeable when it's taught when he talks about blood work and blood testing and whether or not there's indicators. It show that, you know, someone had taken something. But you know, he, his take on that is very different. And also his take on even Daniel Kormier, he was saying that Daniel Kormier is like something's wrong with his blood work too. But I don't know what that means. So I go hard on John Jones. He posted something about like, I think his kid got like, and they get, this is me being fucking CT half retardation.

2:05:38His kid to got like a dog like came at some crazy shit happened. But it was fine. Nothing injured. I didn't know the story. Okay. He said, you know, like, I love the Lord and say Jesus Christ. And I like retweeted on my bro like the only one that you fucking like is a devil, man. Like, should we go through your fucking highlight reel? You hate a fucking pregnant lady, you drove away, you smacked your wife. Like, you got a, you got a, you got a highlight reel, bro. You got a long, long highlight reel being a piece of shit. You know, so, yeah, that almost fuck my monsters to deal. Yikes. But I mean, it's true though.

2:06:12Like, I hate these motherfuckers. You like, this is what I'm going to do. If I ever do something really bad, you guys, I'm gonna be like John Jones. I think those guys don't want to be bad. I think there's a lot, I'm not, we're not just talking about John. I'm talking about a lot of people that embrace the Lord. I think they generally hate what they've done. And they feel terrible. And so then they go to Jesus to try to like cleanse themselves and try to find a better path. I think it's because they're not bad people. They just recognize they've done bad things, especially when they're party in and get fucked up.

2:06:43Well, that's what's funny to you. Like, I'm the piece of shit, dude. But like, I've never, like, I'm never hit a fucking pregnant lady. And, you know, that's fucked up, dude. Yeah. And then drive a, drive a way to you. You didn't stop. I mean, I'm certain certainly some indefensible. Yeah. So what I'm saying, you guys, John Jones, you know, it's funny enough. Like, I'm always like, like, me and like a Bahama, I think I said some shit about Palestine. They should bend the knee or some shit. And it's just kind of like, Palestine would be way, the moment, Palestine would be way better if they threw out home.

2:07:12And they went to Israel and said, Hey, let's make this shit better. It would be way fucking better. But then you have somebody like Bahama, homid, who fucking live in Miami. He's probably fucking, you know, barely ever goes to Palestine. Yeah. Fucking fuck you. Israel. Like, you know, propagating war instead of like, where's my, instead of bringing the olive branch and saying, Hey, this sucks. How do we make it suck less? He's like, no, fuck you. Israel. Like, you're, you're, you're a coward, bro. You sit here in America. And you say divisive shit from your couch on your Twitter thumbs. So, you know, he tried to like cause problems.

2:07:47I just, but it's true, dude. It's fast. I know he said, like it's fat. Like that's a complicated issue, though. The Israel, Palestine thing. I've tried, tried to understand that many, many times, talked to many, many people about it. It is fucking good. The problem is Palestine, you lose. You lose. You just got to, you got to bend the fucking knee, dude. And this is what I said about Ukraine. You're not going to shit. I was like, you guys, you crazy. You'd been the fucking knee. And I was like, why would you say that about Ukraine? I'm like, cause there's no path. It's, yeah, but it's even more complicated than that.

2:08:16But, but again, Ukraine's problem is there's, there's, there's NATO forces encroaching. Oh, yeah, no, we put, we put missiles per vote. Imagine if China allied with Mexico, we're like, Hey, we're in a right. And this is not in any way saying that what Putin did wasn't fucking horrible. Yeah, no, Putin's a piece of shit. Yeah, yeah, but all that is, the whole thing is calm. But I got so much shit for that. Cause I was like, yeah, Ukraine should just been, and by the way, if Zelensky's a fucking piece of shit, the president of Ukraine, you know, he's like throwing political parties in jail. Like he's a piece shit itself.

2:08:48I don't know how we even, I don't know how we look at him like a, like a democracy. But I was like, yeah, Ukraine has just been the knee. And I was like, Oh, Sean, why would you say that? Why would you say that? You have doomed your country. I mean, did you see the pictures of the cities just rubble, rubble, like everything's fucked. You did so. I mean, it's, it's not, this is not over, but it's not over. So what I'm gonna keep bombing things, how do you come back from that as a country? Your kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, they are 100 % gonna wake up every day with Ukraine flag. And let's say that happens, but they are gonna be an utter fucking poverty.

2:09:25You fucking doomed your, and again, it sucks. And the same thing with like, with, with, with Palestine, the situation sucks, although Israel is way better than fucking Russia, the situation sucks, but like in the grand scheme of things, man, you just like, you just doomed your kids, you just every time you sit there and you, and you send out a tweet, you're just, you're making your kids live in poverty and fucking war. That's rough, man. It's fucking rough, dude. It's very complicated. All those things are very, very complicated and having a conversation between two meatheads on a podcast. Oh, yeah, we're retarded, but it's like, dude, I mean, I could you picture like, like, I mean, if you were on, if you were on your tweet, tweet, right now, talking about like, fuck Israel and all that, I'd be like, Joe, you're fucking idiot, dude.

2:10:12Like all you're doing is it'd be one thing if you were there fucking lighting kite bombs from schools. It'd be one thing if you were the guy on the, if you were the guy on the ground in a hospital, launching rockets at Israel. I'll make, well, at least, you know, least you fucking, least you're living it, but just to be in Miami, dude, on the tweet, a tweet. Just shitty, man, like just fucking people just shouldn't have to die, dude. Should I have to die? No, there's definitely shouldn't have to die. And there's also so much money involved in war. That's the scariest thought. The scariest thought is that people are willing to make decisions that they know is going to cross thousands and thousands of people they're lives.

2:10:45You know, like, with how much money we gave to Ukraine, I talked about this in a press conference, man, how that would have financed cancer for like American cancer treatments like five, 10 years. Yeah. Like, fuck, dude, we don't like, it's so crazy. The, like, there's nothing you just hope is, it's just, it's utterly fucking hopeless. Yeah. It's probably not something that we can fix. No, it will never fix you. I do want to know about before we wrap this up, about your training, about like, when did you learn, like, what, what made you like do so much sparring? Like, when did you sort of embrace that?

2:11:20Because it's one thing that does separate you from everybody else is this timing and control of distance that you really only get from a lot of sparring. And so there's guys like Max Hallway, Max Hallway, who's the elite of the elite, who said at this point in time, I don't sparring anymore because I get banged up to him. He said that, dude, but I ran into him and I asked him and he kind of like, lads, like, no, do I still sparring? I just don't think it was. But here's the thing about Max Hallway. He is so fucking good. There's not many people who spar him that hit him. Same with me. It's like, again, I could get knocked out, Max didn't knock out.

2:11:52I could go spar every single day all day long and I could say I don't really get to get damaged. I proved it that stupid mouthpiece had me wear. But you know, again, it just comes obsessive. I started training because I was an angry fucking kid. I turned out I love sparring and it just makes me happier. As other people in your gym sort of embrace that when they see your success with that. So you know what it is, dude? You have people living this world fantasy, like, getting not naming names. I train with great guys, but I've talked to some guys and they're like, what when a fight, a lot of guys say, well, training is not a fight.

2:12:25Training is not a fight. And, you know, when a fight, even though I don't train or spar hard, I'll turn it up. And I always tell these guys, dude, like, I know you say that, but I'll fucking put 10 Gs on the ground right now. You match it or whatever. What do you want to do? You match it. Sparmy five, farmy three to five rounds. And I will bring you in such fucking misery that you will fucking quit. And a lot of fighters, man, we got to say things and make ourselves feel better, you know? We got to say like, oh, well, the fight, we do this and the fight. Right. Right. And so you think the best approach is just to fight all the fucking time.

2:13:00But again, my style is not taking damage. Like Chris Curtis, it's hard for Chris Curtis to spar 24 seven because that man, like, he's like a fucking in the pocket, like no matter what, he's taking damage. Right. So it's just easy, man, when I don't take my style is like evolved around like in the spar. This is good for the brain. Guys, I'm doing DMT going in your fucking floating. But it's interesting because there's no best way to do anything. Yeah, it's like, what is bringing you success? And what brings you success is unique. Also low self esteem, man. And this is like, we talk about a guy like John Jones, again, a much better talk.

2:13:37He's probably one of the best fighters I've ever fucking fighting you have seen. Having low self esteem is rough. And a lot of us have super low self esteem. Like a lot of us fucking looking the mirror. And you know, like you take someone like John Jones, that motherfucker was inventing moves. He was like, when he was back in the day, like, dude, he was inventing that spinning like that. When he had the, I actually did against the right hall. It's so fucking stoked. I'm a fan of John Jones, right? Let go of the single leg boom back spinning back up. Well, that was John Jones. Yeah. But you got to understand John Jones is a fucking super athlete.

2:14:09Sense birth, man. That kid was told that he was fucking gold. You know, his brothers are fucking gold. He's gold. So he goes in there and he's just like, I'm fucking, I'm made a gold. I can just go fucking do. But he opened up his world title fight with Shogun with a flying knee. Exactly. But you take, you take a lot of us who has like low self esteem, like especially like my buddy Chris Curtis. It's nice going to a fight. No, I spart Alex. I fucking spart Artem Levin. I did. I spart me and Francis are gone. You had a fucking, you know, I've spart me and Francis are gone. You had a fucking three round war.

2:14:40You know, really? Oh, yeah. I've liked it. I bang with Francis. Yeah. Me and Francis bang. Well, I like. So heavy weights are easier to hit and not get hit. But the problem is they just touch you dude and feel like you hit by a truck. But I always tell Francis now. I always do. By the way, I'm if you've met you obviously, Francis. I'm a, Francis is a fucking greatest guy. He's a great guy. Bro, he's like, you talked to Francis and you're like, and you're like, dude, you're a fucking saint. It's funny. I walk guys been through some shit. I thought we were opposite of the funny. So I walked into the gym once and was like, my birthday the day for him.

2:15:14It's like, why don't you tell me he's my birthday? And I was like, what's fucking birthdays are for women and children. I don't fucking celebrate birthdays. Francis is like Sean, Sean, what is what does a birthday? What does a birthday? I was like, Francis, he's like, there was no presents in the salt mines. There was no cake in the salt mines. Like, it's like, fuck Francis. Like, oh, I mean, it may be made of, maybe for like a fucking pussy. The most sincere guy, bro, the most sincere guy was like, Francis, no offense, man, but I would never wanted, never wanted a day to grow you dated just because like, I mean, you're like six, these can bind.

2:15:48And Francis, I'm not even joking, bro. I'm like, I mean, I'm being comic, I'm joking. He's like, Sean, Sean, Sean, you don't, when you know the way of a woman, he's like, you can make a woman, you know, climax with the finger. And he's like, he's like, having this heart to heart talk with me. Jesus Christ. About like, pleasure in a woman. And I'm like, Francis, I'm just making a joke. I'm just fucking with you, bro. But yeah, the most sincere, yeah, I was born, Francis, I mean, I've like smart, Francis, come on, you fucking bitch. It's fight. Wow. Because he scares me. He scares the fuck out of me.

2:16:19He's a big scary black man. He scares the fuck out of me. It scares the fuck out of everybody. Yeah, but like that power that guy has. But what I'm saying, that was like, when I scares me, like that little voice, when a little me high underneath the bed from my dad and like, that little, that little child fucking looks at the atmosphere. I'm like, I'm gonna fight that motherfucker. I'm, I said, it's fairly hope he's successful. I hope that him leaving as the heavyweight champion. And I really hope he gets a boxing match, but boxing that fucking stringing him along, man, they keep promise him this fight and promising him that fight.

2:16:49And no one's gonna fight him. Yeah, you know, but no, he's doing the good PFL thing. I mean, he's like, he's in there. But my thing is not gonna fight in PFL until 2024, which is crazy. Yeah, but man, fucking doesn't understand why. Yeah, fucking dude. Just money. I'm sure it doesn't have to fight. Dude, he has fucking money. Well, yeah, but he wants the real money. He wants the, I don't have to work again. Go fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go fuck yourself. Yeah, I need, I really hope he gets that. And I think they brought, I think they fucking dangled that out in front of him. Yeah. And then he got hyped up.

2:17:18And you know, it was like, you know, you see what these box making. My biggest thing to do like the PFL, everyone's like, oh, Sean, like, why do you talk so highly of PFL and Bell to like, I want everybody to win competition. Competition's fucking good. I want good for everybody. Johnny Ebblam. Yeah, he's my boy in the beast. He, oh, I fucking love John Ebblam. Whether the best one or any five pounders on our fuck dude, me and Johnny Ebblam have wars, man. I fucking love the guy. I want him to fucking make money. I want, I want PF. I want Saudi Bucida win the championship. It's like, people are so brand loyal and I, I'm a company man, but it's like, I love it now.

2:17:50Dude, I fucking love me. Something to now. Fucking love it now. But like, I also want five. I don't really like five guys. But I like five guys. Oh, it's too greasy. Bro, it's too greasy. Two very interesting. But I will give you jalapenos and bacon. This is the, the fries. You're like mushroom. They're great. But like, but like, what I'm communist. You're like five guys. Oh, I think I'm fucking going. But what I'm saying though, right? So I want five guys. I want five guys to lower their prices. I want them to fucking steal in and out of competition. I want competition. Man America's base off competition.

2:18:21Yes. You know, and that's probably not of competition, you guys. So great. So support, you know, what I would say is support Bell or support PFL. If you're a fighter, support one, support everybody. One F .C. You know, yeah. I get better for everybody. I like, I love that for a Tang guy. Dude, that guy's a, whoo. He's fun to watch. Bro, I want to say that guy always hype me up. Do you just like fucking? Yeah. Oh, he's a little animal. But when you're this fucking big, you know, things hurt a little bit less. This is the reality to that for sure. But it's like watching a woman just way fucking better.

2:18:53He's a bad motherfucker. I hate watching women fights, but I would go to here. I love that mighty mouse fight with him. I really love that fight. That's a wild idea. Like I have one one round Moitai second round MMA. Yeah, I mean, I like that better than just just stick to Moitai, dude. Well, that would be good for him to just stick to Moitai, but I love the fact that mighty mouse took that challenge on. I love that. What would be cool just to be like, why does it have to be like, hey, I need a beat your MMA. You are a kickboxer. You are an MMA fighter. It's two fucking different sports. Right.

2:19:22Yeah, but it's like exciting to see. Yeah, let's see what happens. See if he gets survived the first round and just pure Moitai. No takedowns. No, no, I think that clown show is that Jake Paul match. Just a fucking clown show. What are they doing? Is he still fighting ideas? That's still going on. Oh, that one. Yeah, I thought because he's got a PFL contract as well. Right. Yeah. So I think he's going to fight in PFL. Dude, he's one of those guys. Maybe so man. They just they game the system so well. He's such a smart dude. Like, all that fucking money from TikTok and just like the guy and the guy's fighting Andersen Silva.

2:19:58The guy's in there. You know, but the last time Tommy Fury. Tom who the fuck is Tommy Fury? Tommy Fury. When's the last time Tommy Fury boxed before he fought. Jake Paulie fought it. Yeah, but he fought with four months before that. Yeah, but it's the thing you're saying, but he's skilled. Bro, he's a part -time fighter. He was like, did on a reality TV show. Like I would fuck. I would fuck Tommy Fury out. Like I would fucking put hands on him and Paul. But like what I'm saying to you is a good looking dude, man. I don't fucking know. How do you thought about doing street boxing? I've been like, I've had guys talk to me and like, dude, you would fucking because I trust what you really enjoy, right?

2:20:33Yeah, like boxing. You don't throw a lot of kicks. Yeah, no. I know you have real good jujitsu, but it's not like you're taking guys down and submitting them. If the money was right and someone's like, hey, we'll pay you this money to box. Yeah, fuck that. But you know, everything's money. Dude, I'd fucking Joe Roe. If somebody fucking came here and put the fucking of million dollars on this table right now, it's an attack Joe Rogan. I would attack Joe Rogan and deal the court case later. I just expect your forces guys coming. Yeah, well, I think you got some real amazing opportunities coming in the UFC.

2:21:04And then if something opens up for a boxing match, but either way, do I not pull it? Paul guys are like your size. Yeah, I'm not poor, which is nice. Yeah, I had fucking pulled. Nice, right? Dude, not being poor, you guys are so nice. I mean, Rogan has that like, go fuck yourself money. Rogan has the fucking, I don't have to do shit for the rest of my life money, but you're still doing shit, bro. I applaud you for that. Yeah, you got to still do shit. Well, problem is we stop doing shit. You just become a lazy old sack of shit. Yeah, your brain starts going. Yeah, but the beautiful thing about having money is now you don't have to think about it.

2:21:33Now just do what you enjoy doing. So I just do it. I always do it. Is it weird that you just wake up and just like, I want to buy more. I don't think it's weird. Like there's nothing you could think about. Like I want to go buy an airplane. I can buy it. I fucking airplane. Yeah, but that's when it gets wild. Like when people start buying houses and airplanes, because like, then you'll run out of money. Yeah, yeah. You could run out of money. But I mean, you could be a billionaire. But you can go buy like a three hundred thousand dollar sesanon, give no fucks. Yeah. Yeah, fuck is a weird. It's weird.

2:21:57Yeah, especially growing up poor. It's very weird. Yeah, black rifle guys. But I don't think about money. What I've done with it, I've recognized, okay, that's an aspect of my life that's covered. So let's just not make any decisions based on only on money. Whereas when I was younger, I mean, like when I hosted fear factors, like, oh, it's good money. I'll do it. I would never do anything like that. So I don't want to do anything just for money. So now I just do things that I really enjoy doing. Your kids are going to work. You're going to be like a hundred percent. A hundred percent. Yeah, you listen, this life is not.

2:22:27If you just give people everything, they ruin something. They ruin something. They're with the lottery when you're 18. Your life is going to be hell. Yeah, you're going to you're going to build a business. Yeah. I'll say your kids just fucking ruin their kitchen drug addicts. It's just scene. Look at Hunter Biden. They found Coke in the White House. You see that? They really, they shut the White House down. They found Coke in the White House after he visited. I think it's hilarious. They're trying to cover this. Would you vote if it was Trump versus Biden? Would you vote for Trump? Or did you just not vote?

2:22:55I would vote for Trump over Biden. I said that before. I said that before. I'd vote for Trump over Biden. But I voted for libertarian in the last election. I voted Joe Jorgensen in the last election. I think Robert Kennedy has a real good shot. I think he has a real good shot. And we're more than a year away from the election. I think people are waking up. Like even the fucking I was watching this the press secretary get grilled today. All the different journalists are starting to act like journalists. They're going after asking are all these questions about these these fucking emails and these WhatsApp chats that show that there's like very clear bribery going on.

2:23:33Yeah. Fuck pay to play man. And she's trying to like, well, I'm not going to get into that. You're not going to talk about business. You know what's really business is about America though. And then Joe Joe Biden like talking about, oh, you would need a plane to take on the government. Like Americans are so fucking pacified. Well, like Americans are so fucking pacified. Dude that like, like it is factual that we have sold this country is factual that we lied for Iraq. Like we have done so much fucked up shit. It's not we. It's giant corporations that can lie to people in order to make money. But as Americans, we all sit there and like, because who's next?

2:24:10But we didn't we don't know what's going on. That's the problem is the media's bottom. But we do know what's going on now. We know now we know what was going on. But what do you think is going to happen in the next election? We're going to they're going to find some other stews on the Democrat Republican party. We're going to vote for them and the cycle continues. We'll see. Yeah. No, it's fucking damn sure. Fucking hey guys. I'm down for the revolution. Rogan's down for revolution. Let's go fucking storm the Capitol before Congratulations on your fight. And I really look forward to seeing you next time you're in there against anybody and everybody whoever it is.

2:24:43Let's call my fan. Hey man, I'm pseudo famous. No, I made the fucking Rogan. Let's go. Let's go. All right. Thanks. Bye everybody.