JRE MMA Show #147 with Sean O'Malley & Tim Welch

26:34Yeah, everyone's looking at it like well had you score it? Yeah, man There's the crazy stories about Lieben back in the day. Oh, he's a wild man. Just getting fucked up the night before fights Yeah, yeah being drunk at the Casino the slots and stuff Robert falls would tell me and then go out and win Oh, he could crack though fuck yeah, he could crack memory knocked out van der Le Remember that fight. Yeah, oh shit Chris leaving had a hammer of a left hand. I mean a hammer Especially when he was hurt. Yeah, there's some guys that just fucking have just some kind of stupid fucking power You know, there's some Paul daily dudes out there.

27:15They just yeah, he's fun to watch He's interesting because he's the orthodox left -handed, right? Yes, you know, so that's got me throw that fucking crazy left -handed That's fun to watch Yeah, he's I hope Michael Venom Page it comes to you see I know there's a lot of talks I believe they're gonna get that that would be make that division so interesting. Oh Yeah, he's so handful He's so difficult because like that style and I always said that that was gonna be the next that's gonna be the next factor in MMA is these point karate guys. Like one of these point karate guys really figures out everything else.

27:49They become dedicated to become an actual MMA fighter. That's blitz thing that they do. It's so different. It's so hard to deal with. Well, that's going to be interesting, Steven Thompson versus a... Shot of God. Shot of God. That's going to be fun to watch. Yeah. That is going to be fun to watch, but Shot of God can grapple too. Yeah. Shot of God's a lot. Easy that motherfucking could do everything. I watched the document in him recently like his come up from when he turned pro Like the second he turned pro he was fighting like good good guys first price second third You don't have any easy fights.

28:22Yeah, he was fighting fucking killers He's interesting man. I wonder how many people the UFC's already I mean, I don't know if they can't be in talks, but cuz Belltor is going away, right? Yeah Well, they're gonna merge with the pfl allegedly Apparently I read something from shotry the one of see apparently they offered them Bellator to and they were at point one point considering I guess But Dana was like what do you get? The thing is just right. Yeah, here's the thing. There's no pay -per -view Like maybe they can develop a paper -view model, but you need stars and the UFC is always at stars The UFC is always gonna have pay -per -views and we can't wait to watch them.

29:03It's not like convincing someone You know like this this fight like Yuri pro huska Alex behead a John Jones and steeping me take my money Even that December card that's coming together fucking Tony Ferguson patty whoo fucking I think that's Stephen Thompson rock -n -off Leon Edwards Colby Colby Covington Branden Roy Valvers his pentatosh. Oh, that's right. That's on that card too. Yeah, oh my god Man, Tony Ferg, though, six fight, losing streak. Six, I know. Crazy. I feel like it's the lose lose for Patty, because he even wins, it's like Tony's fuck is still dangerous, but he's not gonna get the credit, you know.

29:42Tony looked good in his last fight. He looked good. I mean, he didn't look like the Tony of old. What'd he fight again? Didn't he fight Bobby Green? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and Bobby Green's a motherfucker. Well, even Tony versus Michael Chandler, what Tony wasn't looking too bad until he ate that fucking heel. Are that fucked? Go back to that card, Jimmy, please. That, look at that, Vicente Luca. I'm gonna go, go. Vicente, Luke A versus Ian Machado, Gary's, I'll call you, he's fine. And they trained at the same gym, so I wonder how they'd say sparred. Oh, they've probably sparred a ton. Yeah.

30:10God, sparring and fighting though, are so fucking different. At least for me, I feel like, because when I spar, it's like, I crack people and I hurt them and it changes the fight, but in sparring, it's like, I'm not necessarily trying to fucking crack you, so it's like sparring is gonna play a way different than if it was a fight. Right. And it depends on you spar though, but I feel like it's just such a different sport for KO artists. It's so crazy. Yeah, for KO artists. Yeah, but for like volume guys. Yeah, that's probably pretty true. It's probably super similar. Sparring, like that's where you get it.

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33:33It's not usually too bad like it's I kick someone's fucking elbow last six weeks before my last fight and my fucking left toe I have a turf toe and it's still fucking hurts just from kicking an elbow hardest because I'll throw up teeps and body shots as hard as you can in sparring like you're gonna be alright so I whipped a fucking teap and landed on an elbow and I fucking swear my foot my toe turned the other way it didn't but it still hurts to today you remember John Jones when he was chelestone he still has the tape his toes I believe it yeah so tape his big toe I was just a little, so just to hold it in place, why fucks people out there?

34:05Oh. Yeah, that sounds fucking funny. It's funny. So I gotta take my toes for a fucking love. But he has to, otherwise it's just like, it's so torn apart that I guess he does as an whole. Mm -hmm. That was the first fight you didn't wrap your ankles against Aljo, right? We weren't allowed to embossed him. But yeah, that was, I didn't wrap him. I didn't feel like I needed to either. Like I felt, my shit was good, but usually I like to get a little, little fucking. And they probably give them a grip on his single legs and stuff. Yeah, yeah, you did before the fight You're like hey, let's not even give them even that little bit because wrestling like I'll I'll grapple or wrestle with really fucking high level wrestlers We have so many fucking good guys we train with get in on a single leg.

34:45I'll limp leg out But there's wrestlers are used to being able to you know when someone tried to limp leg or you use that shoe to kind of hold on Mm -hmm and fighting that just I mean unless you have your ankles wrapped. I who was the fight? I think it was Luke gave us RDA in between rounds I took off his ankle wraps. Did that happen? I don't think, yeah, I think I was right before we fought Aljouk too. Took off the ankle wraps because he was using as a little grip. Even that little tiny advantage. It makes a difference. It makes a difference. Eddie Bravo used to always say, you wear as much as you can on your legs and make your guard more dangerous.

35:22In Jiu Jitsu tournaments. And then fighting, Frank Miri used to try to wear these long -ass knee sleeves. Like if you could wear long knee sleeves and shorts, now another couple guys did. George Sotteropolis did that. He basically almost had pants on. Like he had knee sleeves and then above the knee sleeves, he had like tights where the shorts were. This is like it's so, so there's so much friction and that would aid you. And so if you've got that shit on your ankles, for sure, that's gonna aid a guy grabbing your ankle, even if it's just how to minor adjust especially. Fuck yeah. I was worried about that fight.

35:54I was like a small of fuckers Usually I mean even against like Peter Yann I was like okay Fucking I can beat this dude, but I'll just I knew I could beat Aljo to but I was like this dude's fucking dangerous Like he's fucking especially the tear he's been on just beat Henry, so Hudo So the dude's fucking in his prime like this motherfucker is dangerous and the choke to choke San Hagan out the way he did That was that was one of my like when you think about fights going good or bad One of those was thinking about bad especially when you've seen it happen like you know he can do that He just he did it recently.

36:29Yeah, so I'm like I Just don't want to get embarrassed. There's be that guy I just don't call he's got to live with that forever. Yeah, that sucks Yeah, I mean he's proved I mean obviously we all know how good Cory is and like that probably wouldn't happening But it doesn't matter if it would or wouldn't happen again. It fucking happened I think sometimes when things like that happen it just changes your approach to fighting and steals your mind And I think that's what it did with him and he just became way better. Yeah, the core San Hager that we think of now Like the guy wheel kicked Marlon Marais.

36:59Yeah, like that's a different cord. Frank yet. He's a Frank yet. Grynie That's what the nasty. He's an animal now. He's a fucking animal. He's just he flows in there. Mm -hmm You know, but like that fight like you get in this craze like Marlon Marais dude at one point time Marlon Marais was The mother fucker for like this long. It's all you got sometimes He was so big for the division and fucking super jacked and his striking was nasty I really knocked out Alja with that switch kick Yeah, who is his left high kick off the switch was more I'll just shot into his knee That's right. Yeah, he shot and threw in the center.

37:38Oh, that's dead. You know what's funny is I was actually at that fight and I was I don't know where I was at my career But I think it was only one fight in maybe but I was at that fight and watched that and I hadn't really been to fights before And I was just watching the stands as like just a normal fucking wasn't sitting in the UFC a section I was just and I was like oh fuck. I thought I it was out for 5 -10 million it was scary. That's always a scary ones right when someone's running in Oh, then the other guy catches them in the knee or a kid like like fucking cyborg and Michael Venom Oh, that's gross.

38:11Oh, that was the worst one ever. I make you question that makes you question What like do I still don't know what we're talking about Michael Venom page who were just talking about earlier, who's just so phenomenal, caught this guy's sideboard. Not sideboard that you think of, like Chris Sidebuck butter husband. It's also a sideboard, which must've been a fucking confusing household. Oh, yeah, and he crushed his skull. So his, with that, like him moving in and that knee landing perfectly, it literally fractured the front of his skull, and they had to have it, look, he's got a dent in his skull.

38:47Look at his whole look out a shattering it was that's insane. I don't think I'm saying video game type shit and set now Also, what does that do to your brain? Yeah, that's not good. What's going on in there? And he was like I'll be back and everybody's like no Think that might be a wrap. Yeah, especially if you have kids like I know once I had a baby I'm like you think a little bit different. It's like okay. Well, that's why you can't do our waska Not yet. I think of everybody as you

39:17Yeah, just chew out of all and punch people. I've never done well. I think I might have done Adderall once But I'm like I don't really need to yeah, yeah, exactly Tim always tries to get me doing it Oh my god, you went right into that yeah, crazy one. Yeah, now you you went on like a fucking eight five losing street, too Didn't he yeah, you know what happened Henry? Yeah, we got him in that second round And that is and go to the first round. So you can find a Marlon Marais versus Henry, so who don't round one. Just find the fight, but watch the. So the first round Marlon is fucking Henry's legs up.

39:53I mean, he just looks incredible. He looks like a world champion, Moitai fighter. And then Henry made the adjustments. And some gas to fuck out. Yeah. But dude, he looks so good. It's just Marlon couldn't keep up the pace. And I often wondered, I wonder how much of it had to do with Marlon Cunningway because he was so big. Yeah. That guy never looked like 135 pounder. He always looked like a featherweight. God, he's just so short though for the division too. For a benton weight? I mean, I guess not short for the division. I mean, Henry's like fucking what, five, three. Yeah. Henry's so fun. I feel like Henry's obviously good as fuck.

40:35What I feel like he thinks he's a little bit better than he is when he was trying to teach Hobi

40:42He was trying to teach him a beat, and he was landing a kick with his foot on Hobiebs knee. And Hobiebs was like, what are you doing here? It was funny. But yeah, I remember watching this fight, because I didn't know if I was going to fight headroom here at Aljo. I was kind of preparing for both. So I was watching the... I remember watching this fight back thinking, like, fuck, he made some good adjustments. There was a good lead kick by Henry there, but Marlin caught him with some great counters. Look at that right there. Just look at that counter left and then the right hand over the top. The right hand kick.

41:14Sharp. And then starting to put really put it on Henry when these exchanges, like every one of these exchanges, he's the guy who's getting off the harder shot. That fucking switch kick he does is so pretty. That switch kick off the left leg. If you got a fast one, like an Edson Barbosa one, it's such a dangerous weapon. I never saw anybody throw it fast in bubble. Yeah, dude, it's fucking slick. He's at 45 now, right? Yeah. That weird. It is weird. Yeah. I don't like when people go down like that. It's hard. It's like Frankie when he went down. He's really doing his career. Yeah. And Jay went down.

41:49Cubs wants and try to go 35 for one fight, too. Yeah, it just crushes you. And especially as you get older, I think it's even more punishing and more difficult to come back. 24 hours after such a brutal weight cut and fight. Those weight cuts are not fucking good. Not long ago that remember the commissions would start at 24 hours before the event would start. That was right before I got in the UFC. I'm so fucking glad they changed that. And we could weigh in at 9 a .m. It's a game changer. Yeah, it's a change. Well, really what they should figure out how to do is not have weight cutting. Really what the best thing to do would be to have more weight classes and to have just eliminate that whole bowl share.

42:30It's crazy. I wonder what Aljo would fight that then because like we were talking about earlier I'm a fuck get up gets up to 170 pounds like I'd fight it 165 165. That's crazy That's what I think you would fight that I think that fight it would fight Actual 165 pound guys. Yeah, look I mean, I'm not disparaging anybody doing it because it's part of the sport But it's sanctioned cheating. Yeah, so it is you're not really a hundred thirty five pounds Like I'll just not 135 pounds. I do find the I do find advantages in there because I know I'm doing it right I'm know I'm doing it as scientific as healthy as possible and as disciplined as I possibly can where I know Other guys aren't like I don't think Aljo did his weight cut better than I did and the rehydration I have the team around me to fucking make sure we're doing it perfect to where I don't think a lot of fighters are They're just doing it.

43:19I know how to make way. I'm gonna fucking get it off and I'm gonna fucking just How much of a relief is it for you when that's over the camps over the fights over then you just how long do you just eat whatever the fuck you want? Well, yeah in camp was we just had Terry black spar with you. Yeah, yeah, no, I definitely especially when I'm traveling It's not like if we're traveling I'll get a cheeseburger. I'll fucking you know not be super disciplined But I want to go back home. I try to still keep it keep it clean like we'll still eat have something good for dinner But right now I'm dealing with this little this little back injury and I'm like, I know if I eat, the worse I eat, the longer it's gonna take the heal.

43:54So I've been trying to, like this last week, I would do like a 24 hour fast, I'm like, I don't need to eat, I'm not really working out. And then if I did eat, we were eating really clean. So, but after a fight a couple of weeks, I just don't give a fuck. But it's still not like, snickers and fucking skittles and shit like that. You see guys like Patty, who, you know, saying that, like he's kind of really developed in eating disorder because it's like the cut is so hard that after it's all off, all he wants to do is eat whatever the fuck he wants to drink. Yeah, even when you're full, it's like, but I don't have to make weight.

44:27So you mentally trick yourself and it's, there's definitely something there. Like you definitely... You got to crash diet 30 pounds in eight weeks. You got to be so strict and you got to train twice a day. So you're starving going to these sessions. So you're for sure cause of eating disorder. Yeah, yeah. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. I mean, because it's like how much like wrestlers too, especially like how much of your time is fixated on loose weight. It's like a big part. We had Kurt Anglon, which was an amazing podcast because did you listen to it? Yeah. When he was talking about how he weighed 199 pounds and he didn't want to cut weight to make 198s or just wrestle every way.

45:05He's like, I think I could beat him anyway. I was like, what an animal. Yeah. See, he's like plus I ate whatever I wanted. I trained however I wanted. I was always recovering. There's something to that. Yeah, because like there was a video him beating this dude who's 270 pounds and a wrestling match. Yeah What a stud. Yeah, fuck yeah. What a stud. I don't need to lose a pound Most people like I can lose a pound Yeah, what is it to lose a pound that last camp about two and a half no probably three weeks out I had this some meat that did not sit well with my stomach. I had diarrhea bad for like 10 days to the point Where I was getting a little worried.

45:41I'm like, okay, cuz I was looking to step up and it's like you've had if you have diarrhea for like more than two, three days or whatever. It's like, you probably got a parasite or some shit. For 10 days, every single night I would wake up two to three times. Right, when I woke up in the morning, I had to shift my brain out. It was, but my weight came down real fast. So I was like, well, I guess that's a benefit because I was like, 155, 156, and then by the end of those 10 days, I was walking around like 152. I was like, well, that worked out, but that sucked, remember that? It's crazy for that camp too, because usually we be working a lot on the wall, a lot of different stand -ups, a lot on our guard, developing the guard and the Omoplottas and stuff, instead of giving up your back.

46:18But we literally didn't get to grapple zero. Five weeks out. Six weeks out to the day from the fight. But yeah, it could have been beneficial because we were doing a lot of mitts. I was just hitting mitts, hitting mitts, shadow boxing, boxing. Focusing or not getting grabbed. And what did you have in your head saying if I get grabbed, I'm dead? Well, I was going into that fight when I was 100 % healthy six weeks. Before the fight got announced, I'm like, it's life or death if you grabbed me. Not because I don't think I can grapple, but that's the mindset I want because that's really gonna make it to where I'm not gonna Let and if he does grab me I'm gonna do everything I'm fucking capable of that's why I tried I mean, I feel like I got out of that so fast like the longer we're here the better it is for him But yeah, so we went into that fight life or death if he grabs me and then when I got that injury I was like it's just that times fucking ten.

47:01I cannot let this motherfucker touch me So what was the extensive? I had a muscle strain in between my ribs and I couldn't even and get into like a light clinch. I don't know, it fucking just, yeah, it hurts. So I haven't even tried to grapple since the fight yet too, because I'm dealing with this little back injury right now. So, but I'm hoping by now it should be good. The muscle strains are fucked. The ones in between the river are so hard. And sometimes people tear the cartilage as well. Did you get an MRI? I did get an MRI. I didn't tear anything that I remember. I think it was just a muscle strain.

47:32But like we gave it a couple of weeks to say, all right, let's just see if it'll heal in a couple of weeks and then try to grapple again, try to grapple in just a littleist kind of together movement couldn't do it, which sucked. Because that was the fight I had the most mental demons going in, because I was like, I'd like to be able to grapple. You know how I'd like to be able to fucking grapple going in, because even for all fight week, I told the whole team, like I don't wanna do anything to where I feel this, because in my mind it's fixed, I'm good, I haven't heard it in a couple of weeks. I convinced myself that it was 100 % fine.

48:03And so all fight week we didn't even clinch once no grab no zero exchanges I take a Michael Jordan type athlete though just to have that kind of pressure going against this guy It was the best on the fucking plan and just being in the moment and not worrying about that. I mean fucking impressive Yeah, well the result was amazing. That was probably one of the prettiest right hands I've ever seen in my life floating back to I mean It's literally like Muhammad Ali Sunni listed Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. I'm a TD garden too. That was cool Boston. That was that was wild. Because that was my first main event and every time I fought I always felt like I was a big deal on the card like the sugar show was there.

48:46But when I when we were in Boston that arena was 99 % sugar, 1 % allegedly if that like the fuck you Aljo chance were louder than like them cheering me It wasn't I felt bad at the at some point. Oh god. Isn't it crazy that it's all because of the way he won the title by Disqualification, which is not his fault at all. Yeah, not his fault at all other than that everybody liked him It's crazy that no one had any problem with him up until that fight like everybody loved Al Joe We choked out San Hagen everybody loved Al Joe like Al Joe was the fucking man and then he gets fouled Yeah, and liquid legitimately got fouled and his neck was fucked up before he went into that fight He's had a fucked up now.

49:29He has disreplacement. Yeah, so he's got an artificial disconnect because of An injury that he had and then pure to yawn hits him with that fucking knee to the head on the ground It's crazy how that need changed so many people like my career I fall and I fight Peter instead of Peter being champ and just like crazy all that one mistake Peter made and now he's on a fucking three fight losing streak He's for maybe yeah Yeah, I'm gonna fight is not that's not gonna be a sick fuck I fight crack He's getting he's getting better to song you don't get young right 24 Oh, yeah, I saw that I Scary shit to a gas station It's only those guys knew I mean I guess you got a gun like no, it doesn't much you can do but no much you can do We saw we saw this weekend that one comedian died Yeah, I didn't see that is comedians in depression is that a pretty common thing.

50:24Oh, yeah for sure I didn't know this guy, but everybody at the club last time was so sad. A lot of, he was my friend David Lucas's opening act. A lot of people knew him. It was a bummer. I did not know him. He took his own life, apparently. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, there's a lot of reasons why people want to do comedy is because they want a moment in their life where it's fun. and if they can make other people laugh. So at least for that moment, it would be fun. Like this guy was one of the greatest of all time, Richard Jenny. He took his own life, shot himself in the bathtub. And then he didn't die, and they had to take him to the hospital.

51:06No. He died to the hospital, yeah. But he was one of the best comedians ever, and one just hated life. He was so depressed. Just the fact that everybody, all the comics worshiped him. Like when he was in the room, everybody would come in and watch Jenny like oh my god Jenny's on stage Let's go watch Jenny. He was so good. He did this one club in Long Island called Eastside comedy club And this guy Peter who was the host. We were all sitting around after the show and Peter was depressed. That's why he depressed. He goes he did four different hours He goes he did two different hours on Friday and two different hours on Saturday and just destroyed and you would think a guy who's that good at the top of his game, just killing it.

51:54Like the guy's on the top of the world. He's probably so happy. I really love them. Meanwhile, God kills himself. Yeah. I was watching this Deon Sanders, a little documentary on YouTube, and he tried to kill himself after, like winning the Super Bowl. Whoa. Yeah. I tried to drive his car off a cliff, like, oh my God. Yeah, that was great. I didn't really know much about Deon Sanders' prime time, but that dude fucking played in the MLB and NFL at the same time in the same season. he was signing like one -off contracts to go play with with the fucking teams and then you'd fly in a helicopter to the football game That was a fucking I didn't realize how good of an athlete he was Imagine a guy like that taking up MMA Yeah, you know because it's like calibers of athletes So I think just automatically go into the NFL or the NBA or the you know, they go where the real money is Yeah, yeah, they don't have that desire to fight some people just have this desire to fight Yeah, and some guys are just they're just competitors and but if you can get one of those like super elite NFL running back guys There's there's guys out there that are freaks Yeah, yeah, I wonder what Dion way like he probably wasn't like he didn't look he doesn't look huge Yeah, he would have been a but fighting.

53:04He just got a there's something just different than competing in NFL I mean, I don't know there's some crazy motherfuckers like competing in it felt like Ray Lewis those guys were fucking take your head off Yeah and I felt that was my first love, my first dream, my first like that's what I wanted until I realized yeah I'm just a little fucker that didn't happen but I wanted to be I want to run out every Sunday with the boys and like but damn maybe maybe another life it's weird with those hot those people I get those high highs like not many people experience the depression that comes after after what goes up comes down so even after the fight to try not to like fucking go get too excited because I know it's like just try to kind of let me live that around that zero.

53:48Like right around where it's balanced. Yeah, just stay calm. Just kind of stay there, but I mean, yeah, I know it is hard because those highs all fight week everyone wants to fucking talk to you. You're the fucking man. Then you win. And then it's like the next week you're just kind of home. Just like sitting around and it's like, whoa, it is weird. But then the plunges and stuff. Yeah, having to fucking learn and out of deal with that stuff and still working out, but having to work out. It's crazy because I haven't worked out really much since the last fight. Just trying to heal everything up prepare prepare for you know kill next year You saying that plunges mentally the plunges I think so for sure.

54:21Yeah, I think mentally I don't know what it is about it But I think what it is just not wanted to do it and then fucking doing it and getting out there's something about that and then The physical benefits and all that shit, but the plunges Definitely fucking help me mentally just stay fucking kind of grounded Yeah, I mean the happiness you get from training fucking hard and then doing the plunge knowing it's good for you And how good it makes feel it's like it's just something about it, dude Yeah, yeah, and it just rings all the bullshit out of your brain Yeah, it's all the dumb shit that's in there that like you would just let bounce around if you didn't work out Yeah, cold plunge or something like that.

55:02I feel like the morning routines too like I can I notice because I right after the fight I'm my discipline of because I'm just like all out 100 % discipline I'm gonna do what I need to do to be Perform that night, but right after the fight the next week or two I'm like I'm gonna this fucking kind of just maybe lay in bed a little bit longer Do it but once you get back to my morning routine Like I'm my red light my pmf machine my cold plunge All that stuff and I just do that I go in there for like 30 minutes in the morning just fucking prepare for the day You ever you ever use those pmf machines?

55:31No, what is it fucking pole -selectic magnetic field is that what it's called? Yeah, it's like two mats. I mean I saw it on Tony Robbins He was waiting it up one day did a mat and it covers and it pulses all these like electrical through you boom boom boom Get the cells moving and stuff good for inflammation in the body. I fucking love it. You feel the difference I fucking love it. I really do I feel I like it Do you like the experience of just doing it or do you like the benefits? I like the way it feels to And I do feel like it does feel kind of cool But I feel like there's benefits. I feel like the the sell especially if you read the benefit And then you really kind of just tell yourself like okay, this is what this is what's happening Scotty from Mexico Told us about it.

56:12It told us how He's got it else yeah with inflammation stuff so we looked into it We got some pretty high -powered machines But we were hanging out with Dana a couple weeks ago and just both you guys just have such like this good high energy It's like motivating to be around for sure fucking pretty badass Especially seeing you kill on stage and then even before like having a good energy and you already did a show Then you're in the green room fucking just feel like it's you don't see many guys even Younger than you are age that have that energy. It's fucking. Yeah, it's powerful to be around like being around Dana too Just fucking he's hellfire One of the things I always tell comics is I because a lot of comics did eat poorly.

56:51They don't exercise delays I was telling like you have more energy like your body is because you're vehicle for carrying you through life. It's not a vanity thing, like you could be a vanity thing, but don't think about it that way. Think about it, like you can actually soup up your race car. You're right, you want something that can do things that other ones can't. Like how the energy to do two shows is easy. It's no problem, I did four shows last night. Geez, okay. Two shows in the little room. So I did two of those improvised shows, the bottom of the barrel shows, and then I did two hours in the big room.

57:23Yeah, that's fucking sweet. I can see how there's been in that green room like crave that every night just They're every at least a couple times a week. Just fuck going in there bullshit with the guys watching some comedy I was so fun to be around while I was telling sugar. I'm like because how old you know? 56 56 like bro, that's gonna be us for a 56 healthy red revenue Yeah, fucking go. I'm hoping I'm hoping I'm hoping I want a 56. I'm fucking revving up like that Well, when you're 56 you won't be fighting. No. So when you're 56 you can take testosterone and get tides and that's the big thing.

57:58The big thing is that people don't want to do that because they think it's cheating. Look listen, you don't have much time. This life goes by really quick. That was your age, you know, when I came to Hollywood. And it just, it seemed like almost like yesterday. This fucking goes by. All of a sudden you're, you mean, obviously doesn't, because when you look back at those memories and who you used to be, it's interesting to compare yourself, but at the end of the day, it doesn't stop. Every day comes whether you want it to or not. You can't hit pause. It doesn't exist. So it just goes and goes and goes.

58:31And if you fucking slip and if you let it go, if you don't do what you should do, that's what I'm trying. I'm trying to remind myself too. I'm like, I'm 28 right now. I got a new of C1O's 22. So it's like, it's already been that long. I basically have that time again, until I'm probably gonna retire and be done. And I went by so fast. And I need to make sure too right now, especially because you get so many opportunities to go do things, but there's keep in mind of myself, what's the goal, what's the goal, what's the goal, there's the fucking keep training. And for the next six, seven years, just be as fucking good as I can be because I'm gonna be fucking forwarding and going, God damn it.

59:08Do you think you'll know when to stop? Do you think, do you have like an idea in your head? Like is it a number or is it when your body it just doesn't feel it anymore. I would like to, yeah, I mean, if all goes well, I think if I'm healthy, it's gonna be hard. If I'm healthy, it would be hard to stop fighting. But. But why would you stop if you're healthy? That's a good point. I mean, I would want you to stop if I see performance slipping. Yeah. There's something about, when you watch fights as much as I watch fights, and you've seen certain guys, for as long as I see, I kind of have like, it's almost like there's, I know what they do.

59:57So I see them and I have like a mold that I can put them in. So like when I see guys moving different and I see guys slowing down and I see guys throwing one, two and then not reacting on the counter shot and not throwing the counter kicks, his legs gone, his knees fucked, why is he moving? I start to see it. And they look kind of the same, like the same guy, but in my mind, in the mold, these things don't, they don't fit anymore. So I go, okay, there's been a change. What about is these last fight? Because I don't think he's necessarily, he looked like that last fight. He looked like he was stuck in the mud.

1:00:36Yeah. But I don't know if he's tested. We talked about that last night. We talked about that last night. That might have been an issue. There could be multiple issues. It could be just a weird physical thing. Maybe he just woke up and he just didn't feel good, which does happen Yeah, it would suck a fat dick if that happened on a world title fight against the guys been talking mad shit about you It's about you a slut for China. Oh my god, but but it can happen to people where you're just flat. Yeah I'll be curious see him come back. I know also before we say any of that Sean Strickland look so fucking good.

1:01:08Yeah, it's I don't know if that was is he being flat? I know it might be that he underestimated him. Yeah, Chris says like all the time people come in good Ask kickboxers come in and Sean Strickland just frustrates him pressures him so much doesn't laugh the gas pedal Defends all their hard shots and keeps pressure and he says he makes a lot of guys look bad like that I think he's also got that front kick to the body off the left leg that people aren't talking about like that was so important Mm -hmm was so important because he's standing like this straight up and you don't know when it's coming and every now and they He stabbed you in the gut.

1:01:42And he doesn't throw a lot of kicks, but he throws a very effective left front kick and his fucking checks are on the money. Yeah, you could tell it is he, like you, you could almost hear it even on the TV, like you'd land those stabbing kicks and I fucking, and that motherfucker spars like that so often that he's composed. Just another day. It's another day. He doesn't get tired in the fifth fucking round. He, like I was watching a stomach in between rounds, flat, just standing there, drinking water, flat. Like like 50 60 beats a minute. I'm like this is crazy this guys this guy's calm and relaxed in the fifth fucking round of his first world title fight Against one of the greatest of all time a guy who just Dominated and have that incredible speech.

1:02:24Yeah, one time. I want you to feel this one time in your life That was probably the coolest moment for me ever The arrows Oh god, great celebration fired up. Greatest celebration all time. Yeah, that was good. That was, maybe on a cry for him. Like, did you see DC posted how many UFC's he had lined? And it was fucking insane within like five, six years. Maybe that out of factor too. Maybe it's just an overload factor. Maybe take six months off, gets recharged. Well, I was talking to UFC recently, and we just bullshit and they're like, is he constantly? Same with Volcanoeski, asking, Let me fight let me fight let me fight.

1:03:06Let me fight. I asked him I said he think he's gonna want a chill for a little bit and they're like fuck no Fuck no, I could call him tomorrow and say hey, you want to find out miss you? Do you do to yes, please? Like how much is his five round training camps changing after the eighth one? Yeah, do you still fucking do what you did in the first part over there city kickbox? Fuck Amazing gem. Yeah, you're jeans seem like cool motherfucker He's got to be up there with the greatest and he's so calm and composed and rational. The way he gives corner advice, the way he talks, even in the post -fight press conference, when he talked about it, it's like he's so composed, he's so good.

1:03:41There's a cool video when I fought Peter, going into the first round, going into the second round for Tim, saying, hey, when your South Paul faint low, throw that left hand over the top in the first minute into that, you literally see it play by play of what I did, the crack, Peter, boom. And then the second round going into the third round, Tim was like, trust that knee up the middle, it's there. And that's what fucking cut Peter. So corner, corner advice is fucking huge. And a lot of times you watch fights and you hear corners like, just talking to talk. Cause I feel like they have to say something.

1:04:11So they're just kinda just making shit up. Instead of like saying, oh something that's fucking truly gonna be important. Not over talking, saying what you need to fucking say. And let the corner breathe. I don't, I'm not trying to listen to a fucking, you know, a bunch of shit. Tell me a couple things that I need to know. and then let me get my fucking heart rate down. That's what Tim does a really good job of. Well, you guys have such an amazing relationship because you were both there at the very beginning. But when the two of you came in five years ago, I'm like, what a cool thing you guys have going on.

1:04:41Because Tim is so knowledgeable, so focused, and also great martial artists himself. So he's watching all these aspects of your training with another mind, like an objective mind that's not experiencing an outside of it, Looking at all the aspects of what you need to do and because you guys sink together so well It's such a massive advantage. I feel like I feel like it it truly is Yeah, when I see other coaches out there and fighters I just feel like even if they're got a good relationship like we hang out every single fucking day with podcasts together We do everything together. We'll go around lunch hang out with our girls together to travel and do everything together Train together and it's just I feel like there's like a chemistry there that a lot of fighter coaches don't have because we're like best friends too.

1:05:26It's not like coach. But yeah, in the training room when we're hitting mids, sparring days, it's like, you know, we turn that on and it's good. It must be awesome for you, Tim, because you took a giant risk in your life doing this, dedicating yourself to one athlete, you know, another athlete's too. But I mean, you're, it's like a big thing, man. You did. Yeah, I think I've just loved, like, loved the sport and loved martial arts and all the different arts so much. And then getting to live with Robert Fallis and seeing another guy who's so passionate about it. I missed that dude. Get to live with him and saw it.

1:05:56Like looked up to him so much. I'm like, I feel like I'm literally living my dream job. So I feel lucky. That's so awesome. Yeah, you naturally were all, because when you were still fighting, you were like, still trying to get into UFC, you were in Bellatory, you went on Ultimate Fighter, but every time I had a fight coming up for like a couple of weeks, you'd kind of switch into Coach mode. Like without us, it was just kind of naturally happened. It wasn't really planned. It was like, all right, now you're in the corner. not to get such a cool situation. It just happened. It just literally fucking happened.

1:06:25And he would hold mitts for me. And it's fucking wild. Yeah, again, though, it's like, it doesn't matter how good of a coach you got. Like the athletes that can go in there, be in the moment, be calm and make it happen. It's like, that is so fucking rare. And I don't know where that came from with you, but I remember seeing you when you're 17 years old, kickboxing in the cage and you look comfortable in there. Like you were just having fun. And then I saw him when I was 18, I saw him fight this wrestler still just having fun in there and that's when I invited him down and every single fight Like even you said against Aljol like how are your nerves?

1:06:59I wasn't a yawn and I was a dog butchers people He doesn't just beat people he fucking cuts them and beats the fuck out of them And you were just stone cold in the locker room. It's crazy too when we were coming up It was $330 a month rent a piece. We had the shitty apartment It's fucking those memories were so crazy. They're so vivid too It was so much fun. We just stayed in the shitty apartment. I had never lived with anybody other than my parents He had like hey, dude. Do your fucking dishes Yeah, I'm like oh, yeah, yeah, you did not do laundry and my mom did all that shit for me. So it's Like that.

1:07:31That's crazy Crazy climb. Yeah, it has been it's so Hard in the beginning because you're not sure if it's gonna work out is weird. I was so fucking positive Even telling him when I was 18 19 years old when I moved down I said I'm gonna be like I'm gonna be and UFC I'm gonna be a fucking superstar and he would be like I have I was just think this kid has no fucking idea how good people are wait till he feels I was delusional I was delusional for sure. You think it's good to be delusional? I do you have I think a little bit of delusion is is an important ingredient in the recipe of success because I was I mean I might have been too delusional but I also got very humbled I would get humbled and I would be like, God, this is not what I, but then for whatever reason I would come back to me and be like, no, I'm gonna be it.

1:08:17I'm gonna be fucking world champ. I'm gonna be the one of the biggest stars in UFC. But I remember telling him that even like when I first moved down and, but yeah. Well, I remember when that first met when we first started talking, I couldn't believe you didn't have a background on traditional martial arts. Cause you throw kicks so well. I was like, it looks like a karate guy. That was assuming you had a, like you, maybe when you were a kid, you did karate out of your tight window. Basketball, football, baseball, soccer, all, every different sport all year round for, since I was probably five, six years old, just constantly being an athlete, doing athletic stuff.

1:08:52I feel like helps develop my, I do think to some people just have this, this ability to fight. I just understand fighting, like distance, feints, that stuff came so natural to me. Like you just like when I first started fighting I was fainting. I didn't know I was fainting. I was just fighting and I was just I just happened so fucking natural. I think some people just have that that ability Yeah, well, I definitely think the background and athletic helps yeah, but it doesn't make a fighter No, the fighter thing is the like some guys can do it and some guys can't do it and you can't predict it.

1:09:34And some guys can do it up until like level eight or level nine, like the Marlon Rise guys. You can get real close. But for whatever reason in those moments, those chaotic moments, they can't keep it together. Fuck. Yeah, I mean, I still gotta go out there and prove it. I think once you become champs, like, are you champ, you gotta defend the belt. You gotta defend the fucking belt. So I'm looking forward to that. But I mean, I was really, really did truly want to fight December like when I called out Cheeto in December but then they talked UFC and they kind of already had they kind of already had they were trying to get Colby Leon together and they don't they didn't I asked them they want me to main event my own show which I think is fucking dope I'm down with that so yeah that's a good a good litmus test too and see what those numbers are because Cheeto is pretty famous too that's a big fight yeah I'm really hoping they fucking just say so let's fucking do it what do you think that would be for like when I mean, you can't beat December, so what is the next big card out there?

1:10:35I would say, I think UFC 300 is in April. I would say, I mean, that would be a sweet card to be on, but again, they're not going to... Where are they doing that, Vegas? Probably, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to get us before that, before UFC 300, because they're not going to put... They'll probably do something like they're doing with John. like have a super card but only have to pay out you know one champion so so I'm assuming they'll try do something like that. It's funny that you think about that way. I've been thinking like that. Until you said that I never considered it. Oh yeah that other fight neither one of those guys is a current world champion even though it's for the title.

1:11:11They don't get a piece of the paper view. I've been I've been thinking I've been having like a business kind of mindset getting the fighting early early on like thinking about numbers and brand deals and and when I get to this position and what I'm gonna ask for at the UFC. And because I go and sit down with Hunter and do our own negotiations and stuff. And it's fun. I enjoy that aspect of fighting. I enjoy the business side of it. To where a lot of fighters don't, they're like, here I'll just pay someone to fucking do it, do it for me. But I've always been excited about that. I've always wanted to be in the entrepreneur type stuff.

1:11:46Well, that's great that you enjoy it. Because for some fighters, it's like a labor. Yeah. And they don't do it. But if you're excited about it, that's awesome. Because that's definitely a smart thing and you know just the ability to promote just promoting fights Like that is such a factor There's so many guys that are really talented, but for whatever reason the public's not captivated by them And so they just never quite hit their potential in terms of like revenue. Yeah, for sure I mean it's crazy now with all the social media guys fighting now and making bank Oh, there's four seconds. There's five seconds.

1:12:20Oh, the fuck the man What he's done is pretty amazing see so is that Dylan Danis fight off with Logan? I saw him tweet fucking amount piece or something, but then I seen someone confirmed that he had he had he didn't act He didn't pull out put that motherfucker. He's been calling us on the day way said there's no way that motherfucker's showing up But tell him pull out yet. Well if he doesn't show up. How is he making money? That's what I was wondering that's what I was gonna say. No can't take a break off Twitter without people thinking I'm pulling out. Well his fucking tweet, he's a fuck. Yeah, he's a great troll.

1:12:54Yeah, he is. He's good. He's doing it. I mean, for a guy that's last time he falls in Belator like when? How long? Yeah, probably four or five years ago. But for Logan's girl to sue him, lawsuits, lawyers, that shit, there's nothing more fucking stressful and frustrating than that, going through that stuff. And Dylan Price doesn't have a lot of cheddar. So now he's getting sued he has to hire a lawyer and those lawyer bills add the fuck up So I bet he's fucking stressing Look at this he's he's sparring with Alex Patea That's very interesting. Yeah Alex being real nice, dude By the way, yeah, real nice and you know, you're only gonna learn so much in a certain amount of time I mean, it's not like Dylan is an absolutely terrible Striker, yeah, but he's not a striker.

1:13:42He's a elite grappler his grappling is fucking amazing. I mean, he's really fucking good. On the ground, he's sensational. That kid has some fucking serious jiu -jitsu. But it's just he's not known for being a boxer. It's like the Ben Askerin situation. You know, Jake Paul offers you more money probably than he made his entire UFC career for a boxing match after you've had a hip replacement, you know, like, fucking, I'm in. So he comes in looking like a guy who delivers milk. We were there. Got into it. Oh yeah. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's a trending in Texas, North Korea. And that's that on Twitter.

1:14:19What's going on in North Korea? I don't know. It sounds fun. Oh Jesus. Don't freak me out. I'll see when I click it if anything. I just I test. I think the story of the day with there is there's a American soldier that. Oh that guy and he's now back in American custody. So that's stories. Yeah, some guy they were gonna arrest him. He said, fuck you. I'm going to North Korea. and he escaped from South Korea and went across the border. Jesus. They gave him back. That's how knowing that dude is. Still one of the craziest pods I was having that girl from North Korea on. We won a big ditty. You own me part, yeah.

1:14:55Heavies. That pod fucking still just like, that was hard to listen to. She's so small, man. Yeah. Because you know, she's starved her whole life. Her body's so frail like when you shake her hand, it's almost like you're worried you're gonna break her hand. There's tiny little hands like you shake her hand. It's like so gentle. Just like a bunch of little sticks covered by skin. And she's so smart. Yeah, brilliant. Brilliant lady and boy does she have some like cautionary tails of what happens when you give the government control because the way their country worked is they said we're gonna take the land away from the farmer so that everyone will have food.

1:15:33We'll just grow the food for everyone and then they're like no we're not. Once they took the land away like no you're gonna eat what we tell you to you're gonna to do what we tell you to, where will we tell you to? That's crazy going on today. Right now. I get fucking makes no sense. Yeah, that's the thing that people need to understand when they think about dictators. Like we don't have to worry about that. It's a merit or a democracy. Right, but all over the world, the world's run by dictators. Like all over the world, it's happening right now where people live in horrific conditions. Do they think they're living good though?

1:16:04They think in North Korea they don't know. Some people don't know because they have no control the internet, like the government controls everything. They, and the people really believe that the rest of the world is jealous of North Korea, North Korea is perfect and amazing and, hold on one, and get it. It's like a big religion. Yeah. Well, it's a cult. And, you know, when, when the father died, when Kim Jong -un died, they, they all had to mourn him. And if you didn't mourn him enough, you would get arrested, put you in jail. Like, yeah, there was like a certain amount of time. So there's like performative mourning.

1:16:36So if you see like this videos of performative mourning for Kim Jong -un's death So there's all these people outside in public in North Korea just

1:16:48Performatively crying and moaning a porno like you have to do it Maybe porno is more honest This out imagine you actually have a sex. What's up? Pissed parkable with Jay. Yeah, yeah, so I would imagine if you're actually you know a person having sex It probably feels really good. You don't really have to fake it. Just have to ignore that there's a camera there. Tim, do you used to girls want to fake it when you have a sick son? Alright, bitch. Sounds like you're fucking gym. God, how much is like social media these days affecting like marriage? I wonder what the percentage of like success rate marriage is going to be in about five years?

1:17:21That's a really good question because I was watching YouTube the other day. An eclipse popped up that I didn't watch, but it was Lex Friedman had some guy on and the guy was explaining how Instagram is essentially an infidelity accelerating machine Because if you think of like how many I mean I know guys who are married and Their wife's page is all their wife sticking their titties out and sticking their butt out I mean, it's literally the whole page is like these girls and I'm not talking about girls who are like professional fitness influencers that are just showing how good their body is. I'm just talking about just regular gals.

1:18:04Like if you're a professional fitness person and you know maybe train people or something like that, yeah of course you should show your body. That's what everybody wants. Yeah. You're literally advertising. By look, I did this to me. I can help you do this to you. But some of them are just just asking to these and like, do you like my feet? And like they're married, right? So you know they're getting bombed on the DMs, like constantly. And if something goes wrong in the marriage, they have like probably so many options like pro athletes are DM and them and who knows, you know, got him with the guys to how easily those relationships are just available.

1:18:43When I was talking about that last night with the dating apps, like when someone in one of those bottom of the barrel shows, one of the questions was hinge, which was a dating app. And I I was like, how much are you gonna be invested in trying to figure somebody out if you've got like a hundred people that you swiped on that are also ready to go? And you could just like leave the states sucks. Like, Texas person like, hey, something just came up. I just get out of a meeting. Do you wanna go have a late drink? And then you go meet that person. Like, all right, we're trying again. And then if you're really that person that's like, it's gotta be addictive like everything else on social media is addictive.

1:19:22So and addicted to just meeting people and just swiping in the helicopter. Like go. Yeah, it's dangerous. I mean marriages such a tough crazy thing. Do you know a lot of people have successful marriages? I know people that have successful marriages. I wouldn't say I know a lot. I think, look, what is the divorce rate? We know that. I think it's higher. I think the national divorce rate is close to 50%. Chris Rock always had a great bit about that. He goes, he goes, and that's just the people that had the courage to get out. How many cowards? That's the truth. And suffer. Especially when they have kids and they're just staying together, being miserable with kids.

1:19:59And they don't even know those kids are sitting there looking at how they interact with each other. It's just affecting them. They just feel the interactions. If it's not genuine, they're just there for the kids. Like, fuck. Yeah. If they feel like a bitterness between them. And then they'll also del -identified future relationships like that. That's like a scary thing about people who grow up in abusive households. If the mother and father are abusive to each other, verbally abusive to each other, then they'll probably pattern that as they get older. They just think you're supposed to fight and then make up.

1:20:32Then make up. Then people get caught up in that cycle of fighting and make up. It feels good to make up. The makeup sex is amazing. But the fighting part is just like people get brutal they salt each other and break each other down Yeah, yeah, we're so lucky because I've been with my girl almost 13 years now And you've been with Danny for almost 10. Yeah, but I bet being like the star you are now trying to find a chick that I mean the guys That are stars trying to I find actual love yeah, it's possible. I think it's probably easier if you're a guy to find a good girl than your girl to find a good guy.

1:21:08Well, yeah. I would think so. Because, I mean, to be sexist, to talk in sexist terms, women think of a man as a provider. So you want a guy who can keep it together. Right, you want a guy who you're gonna have children, you're gonna want a guy who's gonna be able to keep it together financially, be stable, be disciplined, do all things that's gonna do not fall apart, not become a drug addict, not fucking and do something really stupid and lose his job and not just give up because of that and then everybody gets on welfare. Like you have to count on someone unless you wanna work yourself. So there's this like evolutionary aspect and I think it's hard.

1:21:51Like if you're a guy, what do you want out of a woman? I want her to be nice. I want her to be interesting about us. All the physical things. But you want her to be a good person, a nice person. I don't need them to be successful. Like, no guy cares. Did you not care at all? Like, I would not care at all. Like, if I was a single guy and I met a gal and she was like a bartender, I did one to like, oh, just a bartender. Yeah. It's a good point. You know how many businesses? Like, no one cares. No one cares. Like, are you nice? Are you nice? Are you cool? Are you fun to be with? Do I enjoy spending time with you?

1:22:20Then who cares? So, but a woman like Taylor Swift is not gonna marry a bartender. Right, it's fucking so true. Bitch, get so fuck outta here. I sell out stadiums. Yeah. What do you do? you make drinks. Well that's why she's talking with what that Travis Kelsey guy that I gotta do something big time. I'm gonna share about that. That's a good point there. Thought about that. Yeah who knows. It's a it's a tip I think it's a topper road for a woman to find a good man. That's what I think. Yeah if I'm guessing because I don't know all that many good men. I know a lot of cool women. Yeah in terms of like the all overall number of men that I know like how many of them are going for it.

1:22:58Yeah I'm lucky I know a lot of cool people. Yeah I meet a lot of cool people, but just like general folks, like how many of these general folks are keeping it together? It's lazy fucks. A lot of lazy fucks. I feel like comedians, is there a lot of lazy comedians that are kind of naturally funny that could be way better that just kind of just get by with the little funniness? There's that, there's some guys that are talented and they don't apply themselves enough. Because Hans, we were talking to Hans Kim and he was like, kill Tony makes him kind of have to fucking it. I mean, at every week to where he can't be lazy.

1:23:29But he said if he didn't he would probably be lazy. Yeah, like that's crazy that you just know that well I'll probably lazy that mindset. You get to work out with Hans and you do Hans is He goes to the gym and it's like lazy Go to work people don't like correlate the two like creativity and health I don't think they have anything to do with each other. Yeah, it's that mind -body thing like people who concentrate only on the mind Think the bodies frivolous and they don't care what they look like and people concentrate only on the body They're not thinking about their mind. But they're interconnected.

1:24:03It's your being. Your being is your body and your mind. They're all contained in the same vessel. And if you can keep that vessel healthy and happy and keep it like on track, you'll have a better life. Is there a certain time when you have your like best ideas and stuff at night? Almost always at night. But sometimes in the morning, sometimes I'll spark a fucking douba right when I wake up and start writing. Like it just depends on how I feel. I do allow as long as I get my work done what I need to get done like exercise and riding and all that stuff I'll allow it sometimes to happen at different times So sometimes I wake up in the morning.

1:24:37I just have a I just wake up and I'm like I got a right right now I got some ideas and then I'll you know get high and sit in front of the computer for a couple hours and sometimes Sometimes it's coming after the club like some of the best shit I've ever written is like I went off stage I got home and I just sat down and started going over ideas and then come up with things God that's so sweet that you're club when we were watching last night on the balcony looking down at you performing in your club I guess fucking so sweet. That's so sweet. That's like a dream come true like it's not even a dream I ever had It really just happened I had to do it once we got here So I needed to get the fuck out of LA the George Floyd riots were happening They're defunding the police.

1:25:17They're telling you you can't do stand up You can't go to restaurants. You can't do anything and I was starting to get really sketched out and I've always want my At the time my youngest kids were 10 and 12, which I felt like is the age that you can still move them and they'll be okay. You know, when you start moving kids at 15 and 16, they really resent it because they're like socially connected to their friends, they're going to a high school. If they like their high school and they like their friends, it sucks. So it was perfect. They met friends early. It was like the people here are so friendly and it was like immediate.

1:25:54I was like, I love it here. I love it here. I feel so home. But there was no real comedy club. There was this place to Vulcan, but the sound sucked. And it was like, there was always issues. And so we used the Vulcan as a place to practice. And it was good because then we would go on the road on the weekends. We were doing arenas and all these comedy shows. But right away, I was like, I need to open up a club. and Ron White told me to buy the building that was owned by the cult. We're gonna watch that after that. I feel like that I love cult shows. Cult shows are good, motivating. Almost. I was under contract for that building.

1:26:35It wasn't for their issues. I feel like the one you got is fucking perfect. Because it was it on the same street or the... No, no. The one that I had is on this big property. It's way off the beaten path. Oh, this is perfect. Yeah. Oh, yeah, this is perfect. because I'm getting all the people that are in the hotels down there. Look at just walk there, all the foot traffic, you know, and on Sixth Street in front of my club at Friday and Saturday, they shut the whole street down. Bro, Tuesday night, last night, I was like, what the fuck, feel like a weekend? It was crazy, the line out the door was insane.

1:27:04Oh, that's so fucking sweet. And we've revitalized that area. That's sweet. And so other stuff is booming there too. And there's a big development company that's bought off. They bought up a giant chunk of six street and they have all these amazing plans. So it's really exciting. Was it stressful building that place out? What stress, stress was being poor. I was gonna say you got to know. Yeah, a bit stressful is coal mining to feel your, feed your kids and you're already getting black along. Yeah, right? What I had to do was complicated. But it's, I wouldn't say it was stressful because it didn't hurt me financially.

1:27:39I knew that it's very rare. It's like there's sometimes things happen in life where you're like God if I don't do this who's gonna Hmm, I get it who's gonna do it other than me like it seems like the world wants me to do this. I knocked out Aljo

1:27:55So it's just I felt like look this is the thing to do I open up a badass comedy club and at the same time All my friends that worked for the comedy store were unemployed Mm -hmm because the comedy store had shut down and so they weren't getting any money And I was like, how about I just hire you guys, move y 'all out here and let's build a club together. That's what we did. Fucking insane. We did it the right way. Yeah, it was so fun hanging up there like David Lucas, William, Ponds, Tony, just like feeling like a part of the group for a little bit was fucking really fun. That was a good time.

1:28:26It's a real fun hat. It's like we, it's like if you can hang with your boys and have like the best night of your life at point where like you think about it months later, would you have every night? Belly laughs at night. And it's all professional comedians. We're all constantly talking shit and laughing and but the calm it's almost like podcast Too because the conversations will segue and interesting things and someone will bring something up and no bell We're talking about and we're playing music and heading out to mitsis after his phone the bar like that was really fun to Not usually go to just makes it that much more sweet.

1:28:57There's just no phones to Yeah, someone like that cool. I like that being able to take the phones away and lock those things up That's fucking so yeah People don't like about man, it makes you pay attention, and it makes the experience way better. Yeah. And if you accidentally say a little something, yeah, yeah. It just makes it better for everybody. That's what they have to understand. People are reluctant to do it, but listen, it's better for the art form, it's better for you. Just go and have a good time. Yeah, I like how they lock them for real. Like I went to like, I went up in the balcony, I went to like just net grab mine, and I was like, oh shit, I think locked in that motherfucker.

1:29:28Which is cool though, I like that. Yeah, it's just, we did everything that we could to make it the best experience possible. For the comedians, the best for the audience, we just did it right. Too long time. Can a person that's not really naturally that funny become a great comedian? It's a good question. I don't think it's impossible. I think if you're smart and you can figure it out, I think people can figure things out. It's like, I think there's a certain mindset that you would have to acquire. And I think some people, they're very difficult. It's very difficult for them to change the way they look at things.

1:30:01and change the way they think other people see them. Because people have a delusional idea of how other people see you. And I think in comedy sometimes you have to approach, you have to think of it in a different way. You have to think of it as an audience as much as you have to think of it as yourself. Such a sweet skill. I've tried to like kind of write shit down. And I look at a couple weeks later, I'm like, what the f***? I thought that was funny. Even a little bit. It wasn't. Well, it's like anything else, man. Like you got to do it around a bunch of people who do it. In our case, you literally have to practice it in front of audiences.

1:30:40Like some of the stuff you saw last night was brand new. Like one of the bits that I did last night I had just done for the first time during the first show. And then there's all this stuff that we do like in that little room with the bottom of the barrel that's completely improvised. And so that's how you develop and act by like just you have to practice it live in front of people So I have these I do it. How many times you do something the barrel room or when you're doing the barrel show that's fucking good But you can't write it down or someone record in just in case I record everything. Okay.

1:31:12Just in case like what was that? I always record them and then I listen to him and every now and then there's like a little thing that you forgot you like oh Shit. That's funny. Or can be yeah, yeah, it can be they're like little seeds, you know, and like when you water this bitch, the more of this bitch. A couple of meestered it. Obviously, what's say to do now, but that shit had me fucking laughing. So I wonder what like Tom Sager and Christina P, like what their home life like, cause they're such high level comedians. Oh, there's fucking shit all day. They got kids, dude, right? They got kids talk shit.

1:31:45Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's one kid calls him Tom. He won't call that. And he goes, hey, I'm your fucking dad. Call me dad. He's all right Tom. Way to go Tom. Do it on here. Oh shit. Yeah, he lives here too. Yeah, they're podcasts. Fucking funny. Yeah, we, we, there's like 15 world class comedians who moved to Austin over the last three years. So fuck, if I had to move anywhere, it would definitely be Austin. I couldn't leave around this though. I would fuck get too distracted. What, around six feet? Just around town. Like I live in Waddell. I just got a farm. I got 15 chickens and fucking, I live like out.

1:32:17I got half due. Because I get to, I know myself. Oh, there's plenty of that on here. Oh, there's plenty of that on here. That's how I lived when I lived in California. I lived about 35 minutes outside of L .A. Do you have chickens now? Yes, I do. I'm recently a chicken guy. They've been starting to lay eggs and it's so fucking fun. Grabbing those eggs every morning. It's some about grabbing the egg and cracking it and fucking. So nutritious too. Yeah, we've been getting a bunch, giving them some. Yeah, ours haven't started laying eggs yet. We got fresh chickens. They're only now a couple months old.

1:32:47So they're getting their feathers and getting all the fluff is starting to go away. It's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty rich and colorful, way different. Yeah. Oh, and the eggs. Somebody was watching them walk around outside so I can sew stuff about it. Yeah, you ever see what they do to mice? I have, and I've heard they're fucking savages. You never see a video, but you're fucking fucking on my channel too. This is how I found out about it. We were, we had this fence in California that was this like, rot iron fence in our backyard. And my wife said, you know what the fence kind of fucks up our view.

1:33:20Why don't we get a glass fence? So we got a glass fence. And then Hawks couldn't figure out those glass fence and they was sh - Bam! And there was like three of them that wound up dead. They got KO'd. And one of them got KO'd but he was like still lying in the backyard. And so my wife and my kids rescued him. And so they put him in a box, like watch this cat with this mouse. So this cat's playing around with this mouse. Oh no. Watch this chicken. Oh good. No way. Yeah. Yeah. Chickens way more savage than that cat. Oh it is. Oh shit. That's not a good mouse. It's br - oh yeah. Get the fuck out of here cat.

1:34:01This is mine. The cats just - the cats like you got it. Leave me alone. Chickens are funny bro. Fishes. So what happened was this hawk got fucked up and they put him in like this big box and put him in the bottom of the box and then My wife went to the pet store and they got these I think they called them pinkies They're like little baby mice that they feed the snakes and shit like that They got a bunch of them and so they fed a bunch of them to this hawk and he ate them all except for one And there was one left and my daughter's like they were like four the not like we were raising I can't have faith.

1:34:36I go, it doesn't have its mother, it's gonna die. I'm like, let's just feed it to the chickens. No! I go, that doesn't make any sense. You just fed it to the hawk. But now you don't want to feed it to the chickens. Like the chickens are our friends. They give us eggs. The hawk is just some flying monster who kills all the rats. And so eventually, is there, okay, I go, do you guys want to come with me? Like, no! So I went out to chicken coop by myself and I put that thing down and they dove on. Like piranhas. Just, and one got in in her beak and she's running around the chicken coop and all of them are chasing after and biting at her face and trying to steal the mouse from her.

1:35:19I've never seen anything like it. Because every other time they eat, like if we serve them chicken feet and we serve them like dried worms and all these different things, they pack at it but they don't steal from each other. not frantic, but they knew that that fresh meat, the fresh meat of mice for whatever reason, that is like their favorite thing. They went crazy, man. It was wild to see. What a perfect animal for, because they've been around for millions and a million years, right? So they lay in a, lay food every day. It's like a perfect fucking animal. God, God put down there for us. Yeah.

1:35:51And if you're a person that has a good relationship with that chicken, like all these people that are vegan, that's like, I would never eat eggs. Like, listen, and it's not gonna be a chicken. It can't be a chicken. You don't have a rooster, it's not gonna be a chicken. It's just food. Not only it's food from your pets. So you have a good relationship with them, give them corn and feed. Oh, you can't eat corn. Let them arrange around your yard, eat bugs and all that stuff. And you'll get this unbelievably nutritious food for free. And you get animal protein. So you don't have to be a fucking sick person.

1:36:21To be like protein deficient and feeling terrible and having to supplement everything with fucking soy and this and that and like you can do your eggs. How many times a day are you eating meat? Every day. How many times a day? Every meal and I'm eating probably twice a day. Yeah, generally I don't eat more than twice a day. I don't usually eat lunch. Usually lunch is my breakfast, so it's like the first meal. I have the days of noon. Even days you train hard. Yeah, yeah. I don't mind training on an empty stomach, but I will have a piece of fruit or something like that. If I know, I'm really gonna get after it.

1:36:57A lot of electrolytes too, but the thing for me is like, I don't tell, everybody's different. I know people that were fine with the vegetarian diet. It's not me though. You know, when I used to try to lose weight when I was competing, I was trying to make 140 pounds and I only made it one year, my senior year in high school and I couldn't do it again. It was just too hard. I was, so I tried vegetarianism for six months and I just felt listless. I'm 100 % for sure wasn't doing it well. Well, I wasn't even taking supplements back then, but I just didn't want to go up to the next way class. And then when I made the decision to go up to the next way class, I started eating meat.

1:37:34And it was like, whoop, like immediately. Because I was 17. So my body was like, hey, bitch, we're trying to get started. What are you doing? Giving us corn, you know? And then from then on, I always say, like, God, it's like, when I eat meat, I feel better. And know that I know that I didn't do that well. I know I haven't tried it since but when I went on a full Carnivore diet like a few years ago for a month right nothing but meat for a month I was like God is like the best I've ever felt so now I've been doing that for three solid months Damn three three and a half almost three three and a half solid months of nothing but meat I feel great.

1:38:12I don't know how you don't eat those cheeseburgers from that fucking what God I keep getting what's the call a damn chance burger. Yeah, I think still has me thinking about like a fucking ex -girlfriend. Well that's Philip Franklin Lee's, the Michelin star chef who decided to make the perfect cheeseburger. He uses wagyu patties so it's like choice top of the line beef. He knows exactly how to cook them. He uses American singles. He's like that's the perfect cheese for these burgers. You want like this kind of melty cheese product. Not like an actual piece of cheese because it's not really cheap.

1:38:48Oh, everything's perfect. Everything. Look at that thing. It's so soft and just perfect. It's not too much going on. It was just wrapped up nicely warm. So we are doing a collaboration. There's a company that I work with called senior lechuga that makes sensational, small batch hot sauces. It's so good. And senior lechuga is, we're now putting those sauces in a not a damn I'm a chansper, so it's a triple patty because I'm a glutton. Yep. And it's got bacon, and it's got pickles, and onions, and tomatoes. Triple patty. Yeah. Smashed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's cool. That's fun. That's fun. It's cool.

1:39:26Yeah. Do you get your blood work, like, look that stuff? Yeah, all the time. And it's always looking healthy for the carnivore. Yeah, that's great. Sweet. I wonder how many people, like, I wonder if it's just genetics? I think it is. Just genetics. You got to figure it out what's best for you. Yeah, I think the way your ancestors evolved has a significant effect on it. Make a lot of sense. Yeah. I think it's just natural. Like if you were from the North or you were born and raised in Mexico or... But I think also meat is the most nutrient dense food in the world. I mean, especially game meat. It's so filled with light.

1:39:58Gain meat. Gain meat. A lot of meat, meat, meat, and gays. They're slower and they tend to give up quicker. Some of them are passive. So I eat them. No, I'm a good gay. Game meat, you know, because I hunt. So I get all this elk meat and deer meat. And I think there's a significant factor in that too. Because it just is so fucking good for you. It just feels good for you when you're eating. I feel like it makes sense better than a fat fucking cow. I just roll down. Dude, the color of a fresh fucking elk tenderloin Yeah, it's crazy compared to a dying fat cow. Yeah, when I cut elk steaks and a vacuum sealant, so what I do is I'll get the back straps and they'll set up a cutting board and I slice them.

1:40:47When I'm slicing into it, man, it's like red gold. Yeah. You know, the slice of, and then I'm trimming all the silver skin around and I'm looking at that thing that's this meal that I just vacuum sealed. Now I'm going to freeze. Like, that is so valuable to me. It's so delicious and so good for you. You wake up horny. Nah! So when I eat like that, I do. But I like rib eyes too, because rib eyes have a lot of fat. And when you're eating only meat, you really want to get a lot of fat in there too. Somehow or another. So for me, it's like butter and eggs, bacon, and whatever I can do to get fat, or rib eyes.

1:41:22So if it's gay meat, it's usually gay meat with something else that's going to provide me with some fats. I'll still eat avocados, I'll still eat other things. Why is some elk like super gaming? It's 100 % how they took care of it. Like right after they killed it? Yeah, and less the animal. I shot an animal once and he had a large plus section in his kit. So he had gotten stabbed by another elk. They kill each other all the time. Those antlers, that's what that's for. That's not for defense against wolves or anything like that. That is to kill each other. Jesus they just fucking smash smash heads with these giant like war antlers and They stab each other like I've seen elk that have stab holes in their body camhains Snuck up on a bedded elk once he saw this bedded elk and he got within like 40 yards this bedded elk Drew back placed a perfect arrow through through its vitals and it didn't budge didn't even move So he went over to it and it was already dead.

1:42:28It had been killed by another bull. It's like whoa all over pussy All over pussy and then they become make sense afterwards. They're their friends good fight after the fight before and after They're friends for like nine ten months and then some happens. Yeah, they started Just making season pride pussy. One gal gets into estrus and then she's looking good walking away She's making noises. They make noises. Oh They go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You ever called in an elk? Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, but yeah. I don't know. To we see you. Fucking elk in the hotel room. I ain't in his travel bag. He's just fucking calling it like 2 AM in the hotel room last night.

1:43:04Do you elk hunt? Have you been elk? My brother and dad are like big hunters living Montana, hunt everything. They're big about it. About it. Yeah, it is. Montana's a man. That's crazy. I grew up not even fucking putting a spell hunt. Didn't nothing. Well, we were talking about getting dialed in on a bow. You shoot a bow sometimes. I want to bring you to Cam Haines's place. That'd be where's that here? It's in Oregon. Oregon. And he does this thing called lift run shoot. So you lift with them, you run with them, and it'll take you to the bow rack and film it for you, dude. That would be fun. Take out a run 20 miles.

1:43:39I think it's 13. Oh, actually. Oh, I think it's like, I'm not like a jack sleep. No, no, no, no. I think he has you run up Mount Pigska and then you or you you can carry a rock It's like up to you you can either run or you can carry this giant rock. I rather run I could fucking run actually that fight camp last fight camp was the first time I didn't wasn't running no treadmill sprints I did some stairs just because they weren't weren't too bad on my knees, but air dying though Did a lot of fucking air dying just to give my shit? It sucked it sucks a fat one But it is the shit when it comes to cardio our sprints we're doing because we couldn't MMA spar we were doing fucking sprints on the airdine hitting me it's speed ladders airdine oh my god it was fucking miserable I woke up and just did not want to do it at all for instance that was his primary cardio for the serial gonfie because he fucked his knee up yeah that was probably my primary cardio was the fuck no other machining gas you out more I don't think and 30 seconds you'd be like I'm versatile climber does it does it does it's a pretty fucking well at gas and you know too that's a good one we have that here I love that thing But I think if I had to pick one piece of cardio equipment, it's the rogue echo bike Yeah, it's their version of it.

1:44:49I think it's like super beefy and sturdy And it also one of the things I like is it has like you can get a plastic lid that covers the fan in front of you So though it doesn't blow air out you shit, so it doesn't cool you off Yeah, that sucks sometimes. Yeah, you don't get cooled off. You just get Fucking tired. Yeah, some of those airdine and and pad work sessions. We were doing your heart rate was getting to 200 like I have a high heart rate, I feel like. But what's your resting? You have a aura. 50, well when I'm out like this, 54 or 55. When you're in camp, when you're in sleep. And tip top, magus, 48, 47.

1:45:23But yours even, when you're not in great, great shape, is a super low. 43 issue. Do you do a lot of cardio? I mean, not a ton, not a ton. I mean, I've rolled long Jiu -Jitsu rounds and stuff, but not a lot of cardio. You try to do the zone two cardio. That is cardio though. I mean for sure your heart rate is elevated through the most of it. And you know I think also like one of the things they say about cardio training, there's like different kinds of training. Like there's interval sprints like tabatas but just steady state cardio where you're constantly at around 130, 135 which is a lot of rolling, especially if you're technical rolling.

1:45:58It's not spaszing out. Yeah, you're kind of constantly at this like you're not exhausted but you're constantly so good for your heart. Very so. zone two or two. Yeah, they say that's the best five times a week. There's no excuse if people aren't doing that. I mean, you even go on a walk for 45 minutes for a fat mental strength that just sit there and do cardio for so long. You gotta do some fun. You have to play pickleball. No, I haven't. Bro, we played pickleball for the first time the other day. And it was some of the most fun. I love ball sports anyway. But that was so much fun. It's like way more fun than tennis.

1:46:34Yeah, it's so much more fun about than tennis. Well tennis is harder to like fucking actually hit it over. It was like it was like a big game of ping pong and you played two on two duos and it was like I don't know it was just so much fun but hour and a half goes by like that and good workout your sweat and your heart rates up a bit. It was just fucking fun. Do you do cardio? Yeah. What do you usually do? The echo bike. Echo bike puts on the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Or watch fights. Echo bikes nice because not so loud like they're Yeah, are the salt bike. They're both pretty loud, but I My my home gym is set up where the air darned there the echo bike is right in front of the TV It's big as TV.

1:47:11So I just put on fight pass. Yeah, just find some good events. It's no insults. Oh Oh That's right. That's right. Is that a freshie? Let's get a freshie one Do we have a bag that hasn't been opened? Yeah, I've got a bag that has not been opened I want us to like have multiple bags in store. I still have two that are not this brand three that are not this I know they're watering I think I still have this brand if you have that brand. That's the shit. That's juju move Who's that? Okay, check it over in it. Yeah, you mean I put I throw on I've been throwing on some kill Tony too When I'm doing like my hour long zone tears I'll throw on Tony.

1:47:48I think the seal just got left on I don't think it's You unscrew it. Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah

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1:49:07He's a freaking nature though, but you get macular degeneration just no matter what happens, but I Killed it in its tracks with this pure visions Pure encapsulation, mac your sport. Now this is the shit because this is in the bag right now So you got this sealed bag and then inside it's sealed so when I open this bag just opening this bag I'm gonna smell it 67 on deck just oh Yeah, it's a fucking dead list. Okay, I know about a fuck right now You'd smell it through there through there. So the package isn't even open right now what? Just take a sniff of that. It's not even open. Oh god. Right, not even open yet.

1:49:56Wow. I loved when you were the over -hitting it. You're like, I want more. Now, now I'm going to take this and then there's a seal on top of it. So when you can smell it through the bottle, son. What the? God, he's just good for your brain. He's got a terrible brain. I know. Does he get me terrible for you? All right. All right, here we go. E. Oh

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1:50:41Oh That takes a man to be able to rip that every day You hit some fucking squats Oh, man, I hit that before rolling. Oh, yeah, I don't know if that would be good Yeah, I'm just fucking it's really good for like dead lifts Hockey guys love it when they go smash people. Yeah, well definitely puts you on a psychotic state Oh, right. Uh, this one's oh, she's stripped it. Oh This was the most fresh Jesus that's the most freshy of the fresh hit that free pounds of puss When could you mind right? I don't know if we get in on right? I don't know. I don't know if it would be good For anything I think that's good for like maybe goof around on podcasts dead lifting That's a fuck I sell it right there, but all those power with to do oh my god like still in there I could still like tickle my Brian Simpson hit it and it was so bad that he had to take his headphones off and he ran out of the room His set was funny as Fox night too.

1:51:42He's good. That was funny. He lives with haunts right yeah We went over that house is funny. It's just like It's just funny why it's like what we our house look like prior maybe yeah Yeah, it's like that's one of the cool things about that green two is like we have this like communal hang where we've at all because it's it's the most fun to hang out with other comics it's just everyone's always laughing roast and always yeah the dark humor shit is just so much fun where you just can't quite say shit online or in public or on podcasts, but you can say shit in the green room or at the house. Let it rip.

1:52:21Yeah, it's funny to how nobody in blinks. We're talking about this the other day like Duncan we were talking about someone and I go if you've ever seen this thing this lady did and we were watching it Duncan goes I'd let her piss in my mouth and no one even blinked I go can you imagine any other work environment where one of your co -workers says I'd let her piss in my mouth and no one gets offended that's fine no one even blinked no one even reacted is Duncan live here yeah he lives there I fucking like I always enjoy those podcast I like him. Dongeon lives here, Tim Dylan lives here. Oh shit Tim Dylan.

1:52:55Yeah Ron White lives here, Thompson Gurk, Christina Pazitsky, a ton of up and coming comics. Yeah. Cause we have two nights of open mic nights. So two nights where the amateur is in practice, we have door people showcases. So all the door guys, all the people that audition to be like the people that work the door of all professional comedians. And the addition for that job with their act. Can Patterson do you too? Yeah, that mother fucking funny Bro, he's a young dude who yeah, he's got real talent. Yeah, like that guy could really be something Yeah, it's just a time thing, you know Mm -hmm, and you know and he moved out here, dude Just came out here from Florida.

1:53:34It was like I'm I'm ever watching the episode when he got in the first time came on It's so cool to see I was just like Killing it in that one minute can fucking change your life. It's so cool. Oh it changes everything. Yeah, it's That show has launched so many careers and it's a great bedrock for the comedy scene here in Austin because it teaches you to just be funny It's not about like whatever woke cultural trends and espousing all the right virtues on stage Which you do fucking see at some of these places? Yeah, because they that's weird they're young kids and they think they have to be woke And they see certain people on Netflix and they you know They see them getting critical reviews so they try to ape that they try to like come mimic that Modern pretend they're that and they just get caught in this world of Virtue signaling instead of the world of just trying to be funny and on kill Tony You're just trying to be funny.

1:54:27Everyone's just trying to be funny and you can make a legit career and everybody realizes how fun It is Mm -hmm. So it's like it's kind of training people to just go out there and make people have a good time Yeah, no one else could do it like Tony too. He's just the perfect amount of ruthless Yeah, oh he's so ruthless. He's such an evil. Oh fuck. We were watching the last episode They just dropped and Ron I don't know a ruck and Rick flair was on there and and it's always they started making fun of the Community and some ricks like I will not be a part of this It's like also he was hammered. Oh, he looks like he was obliterated They said they went drinking with him on Sunday and he said it's like a movie.

1:55:03He's like rift layers like let's go meet some girls And he's like, he's doing long eye -to -night -tees. Just getting six -inch ears. His ears were incredibly long, that was impressive. That happens with the old people. Your nose grows and your ears grow forever. Yeah, your ears and your nose keep growing. Is that like, could that be like from human growth hormones? I don't think there's just an age thing. I think all old people have giant ears. You see, really old people. So if you like our young and little ears, like these ears suck, like hang in there. You know, I love those when you're 80.

1:55:37I love the little girl. Cause you could have a normal face instead of looking like fucking dumbbo. Yeah. Some old people have crazy big ears. For like your big like crazy podcast like, I mean like Elon and all those things. Do you do it like anything special in the morning or just a normal morning? Normal. Yeah, I don't want to be hungover. Right. Yeah. Yeah, especially like an Elon one or a scientist one. You know, depending upon the subject, if it's a scientist, oftentimes I'll read their book or I'll listen to it or I'll watch lectures that they've given or Ted Talks. Just try to get a sense of like what I am, what I'm curious about, but whatever the subject is.

1:56:20Fuck you, those guys are just so smart. You do a good job at just not letting your mind water and focus on what they're saying. Yeah. That's a fucking skill. Well, it's really because the only reason they're there is because I'm actually interested in the subject. I don't have to fake it. It's not even really like a skill. It's just my honest curiosity. So when I'm talking to a guy like Brian Keating or something, astrophysicist, guys, these guys are so goddamn smart that really all I'm trying to do is just get a grasp of how this is understood. What are they doing to figure this out? Is it possible that they're going to know in the future that this data is incorrect?

1:56:59And what other factors could be, like they're talking about the age of the universe. And there's some debate now that the age of the universe is probably not really 13 .7 billion years, but maybe even 26 billion or more. And so talking to him about that is like, how do you, how are you figuring this out? Like, and just to talk to those people, it's so interesting just to be able to have these kind of conversations with those type of people, you know? Have you always been curious like that your whole life? Yeah, I think so. about the things I'm curious in, but I was terrible in school. I can school is terrible.

1:57:33I just did not want to be there. I just wanted to get it. I thought they were just preparing me for a job that I didn't want. And I didn't want to be a part, and I looked at them, and I was like, I don't want to be you. That's so true. Like, what is this life you're living? You don't have any joy. You don't have fun. You know, you're all rigid and you look depressed. Like, get me out of here. That's what I, when I was in school, I was like, get me out of here. After I graduated from high school, I just have nightmares that I didn't graduate and had to go back. That's funny. I knew I didn't want to go to...

1:58:03I was in elementary school and I was like, I'm no chance I'm going to college because once I'm... Oh shit, I think we have that later. Were you getting... You weren't getting any pressure from your parents or anything about college? Oh yeah, it was, yeah. But still you said no fucking way. Well, I took a year... I was down to tell everybody, I told everybody I'm taking a year off. But it's like, I was really... All I wanted to do was compete back then, but there was zero money in Taekwondo. and I wanted to make into the Olympics. But then when I was training, one of the things that I noticed is, first of all, I always had my doubts of whether that's the best style.

1:58:38But then when I started kickboxing, I was starting to get lit up by kickboxers. And I was like, oh my God, there's so many holes in this. And I don't want to compete in this thing that's so limited. Right, like chopping your legs now. That punches too. Moin' time was next. Kickboxing, American kickboxing was first. They were just like above the waist stuff. But when you got trapped in a corner in my hand sucked, I just sucked at boxing. That was really good at kicking people. They were on the outside. I was amazed at how bad their kicks were. Like mostly kickboxing they trained with. I could just fuck them up from the outside.

1:59:11Loading up. Yeah, they were loading up. They just, their techniques sucked. Their knees were down, they're kicking up. Everything's telegraphed. It's like the kicks were just a part of brawling. And they just threw it in there, but if I could like get out of the way and I was like moving on the outside I could close the distance so much faster than they could But then I'd kick boxing when I was getting boxing. I was like, oh my god I have giant holes in my game And so it made me like really not enjoy Taikwondo anymore And so I stopped competing in Taikwondo and I started kick boxing and then I started getting headaches because we were Inspiring we were fighting one of my main sparring partners was this dude that had just got out of jail.

1:59:51I knew him when I was 16 and he was kind of crazy then but then he went to jail for something to do with drugs and then he came out three years later when I was 19 and he was a totally different person. He was super jacked like I don't know if they got him steroids and jail or whatever. He had sanded off all of his tattoos. He used to have these really shitty tattoos and he had like literally burned them off so all of his arm was covered with these like key Lloyd scars and when me and I got with spar it was a fight to the death you would just be chasing me down we'd be blasting each other and I remember one time lying in my bed broke 20 years old no money no future and you know I had been offered a pro fight for like four hundred dollars or five hundred dollars something like that.

2:00:38MMA no kickboxer there was no MMA at the time this is 1988 and I'm thinking what am I like what am I doing with my life? You know? 500 bucks? And there's just no future in it. There's just no where to go. Like so you're getting good at this thing that does nothing there. There's nowhere to go with it. Like you could become a boxer, but you're not good at boxing. So what are you gonna do? You're gonna just get beat up. You're gonna get brain damage. And then I got a chance to see some of the guys that I was training with start to exhibit signs of brain damage. And that's where it gets weird. I'll open your eyes up a bit.

2:01:10Oh. Even still doing your invisible line? Yeah, I took it off today. You guys got on my two. I wore mine for about a year and a half My I cannot believe what I didn't really stuff fucked up my teeth were and then Someone pointed it out and I was like This I was like damn I fucked up then I got in vis line after you did and I'll be smiling all day now It worked good as a mouthpiece to like I don't mind like I'm a crave of being in sometimes they kind of tied a mouthpiece for G -G -G -T -O. Yeah, yeah. It's probably not good enough for striking, but for G -G -T -O, it's a better mouthpiece. I remember paying the ass of some nights, you're like, I don't want to wear these or you change your trays and it's like, fuck!

2:01:51Gotta just the twerth at the moment. The timing of everything, though, with your career and just social media and all this stuff just blown up. It's just so weird how everything worked out. It's just like a lot of luck, but a lot of being prepared for the luck. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's almost like feet. I mean, if you wanted to really believe in fate, if you look at the story that you guys have, that's kind of fucking weird. Can't it seem like it's fate? I know, it's hard to say, because then what about people that don't make it as that fate too, or is it like, could they have made it if they were more disciplined and more driven and more this, more that?

2:02:25And they found the right coaches and they got to the right gym, and could they have, I don't know? A lot of people just don't make the decisions and don't do what you need to do. And a lot of that is necessarily just like, Isn't hard stuff, but it's like I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna ice bath. I'm gonna sauna I'm gonna stretch and I'm gonna go to bed instead of going out with the boys And I'm gonna do that for fucking nine years until I'm watching like that was a lot of it I know a lot of guys are so fucking good, but it's Friday. I'm gonna go out hang out drink stay up late Coming up we didn't do that ever like right now obviously to come after coming off the fight I've been traveling a lot over the weekends but for the most part, even still, like once we get back to routine, it's like just doing those little things, stretching, taking care of your body, eating clean, and just fucking preparing for the next day, preparing for the next training sessions for years of consistency.

2:03:18That's what it's all about. It's all about having a goal and building towards that goal and doing everything that you can to be as great as you can be. And now that you've done it, you've also laid a foundation and a groundwork. You've led these young fighters who see what you've done and they can see that there's like a path. And that like I'm going to emulate this guy's focus, this guy's discipline, this guy's belief in himself. And that is what inspires so many other people to do it. I remember being a kid watching the training sessions of Mike Tyson with customado and just thinking like wow what an amazing convergence of these two human things about it comes together this guy's fully disciplined fully focused and then when he wins the world title at 20 years old you see him standing there inside inside the ring after he knocked out Trevor Burber can you like holy shit he did it he fucking did it he did everything he had to do he fucking went full All -Bore with talent and drive and genetics and coaching and all the boxes checked everything checked and look what you get Did it look what you get?

2:04:30Yeah, and how many how many people did that guy inspire? He certainly inspired me. He certainly inspired thousands millions of other guys to do things Especially Sean being like a skinnier kid Yeah, no, I think too is like I'll I think I'm gonna best too. Let's yeah Yeah, I'm gonna pause, we'll pause the cook this. Ah, and we're back. We, ah, one of these cookbooks. I'm good for now, I'm good, thank you. I'm so geeking off this caffeine, a little bit right here. Let's fucking go. Dude, literally, I mean, the art of podcasting is a crazy fucking thing. When you have three, five hour conversations at so next level.

2:05:08Yeah, sometimes five a week. Holy fuck. I'm stuck. Some weeks I have them every day. Yeah, that's a lot. Fucking impressive. And it's like one day I'll be talking to Eddie Bravo, we'll just be fucking around talking shit. And the next day we talk into some super scientists. Yeah, it's wild. Balance mathematicians and geniuses and psychologists. It's weird. Do you usually think it at like two weeks ahead or a week ahead or is it just coming in the message on or how does that go? It's pretty far in advance, most of the time that it's booked and it's all booked on my interests. So it's 100 % on what I'm interested in.

2:05:42It's like, I do. look at the potentials, like who, sometimes I reach out to people, I reach out to this guy yesterday, wrote this book on the American West, and I reached out to him because I'd heard him on another podcast and I got his book. And sometimes it's just they'll send the email in and it goes through my guy and it gets filtered back to me. And he sends the ones that are relevant and I look at those and I'm like, hmm, I just look what interest me. This one now boring boring. Huh? What's he doing? Okay, and then I'll go see if I can find a YouTube video of them talking because I've had Variders on before and they can't talk and that's kind of a bummer like maybe they talk the way they write so they go well so and I think and you're like oh no This is this one sucks.

2:06:33I should've listened to this guy talk first. Sometimes the ideas are great, but the people aren't compelling. Do you ever have a smoke and then read a book? Oh yeah, sure. I like doing that. Yeah, I like doing that. I like books in the sauna. It's my favorite. The audio? Yeah, audio books. You can just sweat in all of your pages. Yeah, audio books in the sauna are my favorite way to consume them. Because you know, you're going to be in that sauna anyway. I've been listening to Marcus Aurelius' meditation in the sauna recently. That's amazing. Listen to this dude that lived 2 ,000 fucking years ago and he's just spitting knowledge.

2:07:08I like Ryan Holliday, like, how he kind of breaks down what he said. The Daily Stoics, the 365 days, I've had that book for like four years and I still religiously, especially in camp for like 12 weeks out, read every morning and just like, it's fucking good. Yeah, it's a great stuff. Ryan Holley is awesome. It's so cool when there's people that highlight stuff like that and really put it out there. It just gets so many people interested in those ideas. But Marcus Aurelius is like listening to his stuff. I was always like, oh, this guy is so interesting. Like God, imagine being like this conqueror, this guy was like running Rome and running Greece and you think like this.

2:07:51Yeah, that's wild shit. How's he think like that? Why is his mind like how's a? Morales is a Roman Emperor, right? I wonder if yeah, I wonder if it'd be good for like stoicism and be taught in schools at what Sure teaching you how to think is one of the main things that's missing from school Teaching you how to manage your mind is how many times like can someone say one thing to you and that thing kind of Resets the way you look at stuff like yeah now apply this and you can apply it in real world It's like a tool that you can use. You know, you could try to twist something with your fingers, but if you have a wrench, you're like, oh yeah, this is way better.

2:08:31And sometimes ideas are like a tool, and you can just apply them at various times in your life. And if you can hear about them from someone who's already figured that out, how's that giant step in learning curve that you get to jump? Yeah, I mean, like even if it was Naval, some of his stuff is so fucking fun to listen to. His Twitter is good. Yeah, yeah, it evolves. What like did you how did you decide what school your kids are going to go to? You know there's good schools out here. We're lucky. We're now California is Much more problematic right now for schools because one of the things that was happening to me In my school where my kids used to go is they hired some person to to teach them that they have to be anti -racists.

2:09:19It's not good enough to not be racist. That's like, what the fuck? Like my kids aren't racist at all. Like, what are you doing? Like, why are you putting that in their head? That they have to be anti -racists and call out racism and like, they're trying to make kids activists. I'm like, hey, they're five. That's crazy. You know, like, they don't even care. They want, they want friends. They don't get the fuck with their friends, look like. They're trying to have a good time. They're five. They're just playing. like you're pumping in, you're indoctrinating them into this woke guilt -free, or guilt -ridden ideology that you're carrying around with you.

2:09:52And you feel like you have an obligation to impose this on children. You know, our goals should have always been with the goals were that the Liberals had in like the 60s and the 70s, which is a color blind society. The Martin Luther King notion that we should treat people by the content of the character, or not to color their skin. But across the board, and the problem is, there's inequities in communities. There's inequities in how people grow up and where they come from, and some people are in places that have no hope, and none of that gets addressed. None of that gets fixed. None of that gets worked on.

2:10:25Instead, you just try to make kids feel guilty. Yeah. It's just, I didn't like the woke shit. I didn't like that they were, you know, trying to ask kids their pronouns. and how did you find out that they were doing that? We got an email. Was it an email from... Anti -racist email? Yeah, it was like right around the George Floyd time. It was like, oh my god. Because some people, what happens is they'll cap, there's a social movement, and they hop on that social movement to enhance their own career. And they use it to optimize, and it's this thing that, it's what you call a race hustler. You know, there's people that do stuff like that, or it cannot be that.

2:11:08It could be any kind of social issue. You want that social issue to be a bigger deal than it is. You're attached to that. It could be climate change. It could be whatever the fuck it is. It could be the, you know, you see Sean Penn do and all these interviews about the war in Ukraine. Like, what is actually going on there? Well, part of it is you're attaching them yourself to something that makes you look virtuous. And it also enhances your career. So it's like a thing you're doing. It's very rare that when people are like, trying to prostilitize and out there trying to indoctrinate people into certain ideas.

2:11:41It's very rare they're doing it just for true altruism. Like they think that those ideas are just immensely beneficial. They're also doing it to boost themselves up. And it becomes an economy, an economy of people that boost themselves up by highlighting valid issues in the world, but doing so in a way where they become the moral compass and the person who gets to dictate how people behave and think and talk. They build their little knees. It's just control, Matt. People love to fucking control people. And if they can control people because there's some guilt thing and a social, a horrible social issue, look at the George Floyd thing where everybody's kind of on board, like, oh my god, they killed that guy.

2:12:21This is horrible watching that. What kind of police brutality and racism and all these different things? And then someone says, I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna ride this fucking wave. And I'm gonna get a job in schools. and I'm gonna start indoctrinating people. They wanna firing that person. That person was going hand. Damn. But, you know, the whole school was like, it shifted. It shifted with the social tide. And I was like, you're not supposed to be doing that to kids. You're supposed to be teaching kids. That's just teach them life. I don't like you. So I don't want you putting your shitty philosophy, your shitty judgmental philosophy and indoctrinating children with it.

2:12:58Because I think you're a moron. You're a moron who just happens to have a job at a good school teaching kids And but I think if I sat you down in a podcast you'd look pretty fucking stupid a couple hours Right, you know, there's a lot of these people that didn't they don't get their ideas challenged And yeah, and that's huge and they're teaching eight year olds, you know like Jesus Christ. That's fucking scary And not just teaching them how to read yeah, how do you know you're a boy Billy? Oh? Jesus you seem pretty feminine And then, right, did you ever pick a doll and you should have picked a truck?

2:13:29Do you like pink? No. Yeah. Do you monitor your kids on like TikTok? How much they're on it and stuff? Yeah, we monitor them. They can't have their phones at night. It's great. But I don't stop them from doing anything. I don't stop them from eating junk food. I don't stop them from playing on their computers. I don't stop them from playing with their phone. but I do emphasize the value of discipline and they obviously see that I work hard and my wife works hard. We just talked to them about stuff. I think if you deny kids social media, one of the things you're gonna do is you're gonna kind of socially alienate them because all their friends are on social media.

2:14:08But then there's also this thing where kids are living in a new world. And even though you didn't grow up in that world, if you say, oh, this social media that I think they're getting an adversity that you're not going to get. And they're going to get some resilience from that adversity. But there's going to be mental health consequences, and especially for people who didn't grow up in it. And that's one of the things that they experience, John Finne hates book, the Coddling of the American Mind, is about that. And one of the things that highlights is self -harm amongst girls, ramps up considerably, somewhere around 2008, 2009, and it's right when Twitter and social media and Facebook and all that stuff comes out.

2:14:48And now they're comparing themselves to other people and comparing lives and people are using filters and distorting reality and people are there's more instances of suicide and self -harm than there's bullying, there's a lot of bullying. Well, even just being on my phone, I don't feel like I'm comparing myself, but just picking up my phone and being on it and surfing and then putting it down and then picking it up surfing just gives you this little level of anxiety. Dude, it's like the fuck! Some of the four and five year olds you can tell the ones that like in Jiu -Jitsu the ones that their parents really monitor it compared the ones that always just put it in front of them and a lot of those kids that always get it They always quit Jiu -Jitsu because it's too hard or they want to do the warm -ups and stuff and they sit on the side now Just go So that's crazy.

2:15:33That's so that's so wasteful so bad for you. Yeah, it's just so dumb and you know I talk about it But then I did it the other night the other night. I was gonna go to bed. It was 10 .30 and I said I'm a go on stage. I'm in a go upstairs rather than just see what's going online And so I got online I started watching YouTube videos so easy then I went down a rabbit hole with the UFO disclosure and then it's like three hours later. I'm like, what am I doing good? I bet that you have smelling souls the Rosigno or whatever that one the documentary I heard you're talking about it. I watched that yeah, moment of contact crazy because you're like either these guys are such good actors or they're a little bit crazy or they're fucking just telling the truth.

2:16:13It's so hard to know but that one cop, when they bring that one cop to the site with a crash horse and you start crying. Yeah, that's powerful. I just don't believe that that could be that good of an actor. I mean, that's a Daniel Day Lewis performance right there. Yeah. I was killing it. If he's really acting like, bro, that was amazing. Yeah. I mean, but there are people that are like that that are completely insane. Yep, that can I mean how many people have lied about being attacked like you know Jesse Smolett style how many people have lied about things that have happened to them when nothing happened to them There's this people that know that there's a value.

2:16:48There's like a social value in being a victim And so they will come up with stories about something terrible that happened to them and then they came and they took me in their craft Well Johnny Depp and Amber heard I mean someone's fucking lie. Yeah, it's what do you yeah? That show I recently watched that on Netflix and I was like it's so wild. Expert actors. Black belts. It was crazy. To me the craziest one was when they knew that they were recording each other. So they're having a conversation but it's so performative. Johnny is just talking like this. That's actually very common. That's really good.

2:17:25Very common. He's a good dude man. He looks good. Yeah, I'm text friends with him and I was on the phone with him once when some shit was going down with him before the trials. We had this long conversation on the phone. I was in Hawaii and Stan helped. He said, hey, Johnny wants to talk to you. Can we talk? I said, fuck yeah. So I'm sitting there and I looked over my wafer going, I'm about to talk to Johnny Depp. I'll be over here. So he's slanging at the pool, drinking margaritas and I'm on the phone with Johnny Depp. He's talking like that? Yeah. He's a funny dude, he calls Elon Musk, Mollusk.

2:18:01Mollusk. He was all fucking playing the fucking he was. Yeah, he was He was apparently involved somehow or another with Amber heard. Yeah, that's fucking sweet. He was putting babies out there Lifted right. Yeah, I'm kind of jealous of that. How many do you want? I mean in this reality Maybe not as many as in my fantasy. I want to bet I want I'd love that only 28 Bonsa kids. You're only 28. I know, but I'm not the one that asked to get pregnant and deal with all that shit Danny is so that's true, but I'm telling her I'm like, can I have more baby mom doesn't she doesn't she's not doing that I would love to have a bunch of it.

2:18:36We were talking last night about the surrogate thing about how that people farm off someone having their baby inside of them. This doesn't seem right. It seems wild. That's what it is. I feel like there's such important connection. Those nine months, ten months of that baby being in there and just you holding your belly and you feeling a kick. There's just how long does that take that mom to recover from that? Just like there you go. Bye. Right. Well, I told you about my neighbors. Oh, yeah. These friends of mine that lived down the street, this gay couple, and they hired this lady to be the surrogate.

2:19:10They pay her, they do the whole thing. They make sure she's got good nutrition. And at the end of the year, she's like, yeah, I'm keeping the kid. Fuck. Oh, was that lady married, too? I don't think so. I think she was single. I don't remember, though. But I just remember them being heartbroken because they were all they did eventually find another surrogate and then now they do have a son now Their son's older damn doesn't know them for like 15 20 years But that at that time it was like they were like so bummed out like they were gonna have a kid there There's firm to yeah or one of them. I think they just both jizz and a cup and they fungun No, I can't do that.

2:19:47Squirted it makes it up. Yeah, so you don't know who's jizz it is Hmm damn. The interesting thing that Giz, that there was certain Giz that would kill other Giz, it was killer sperm, it was this theory that's got to be... Yeah, it was like, it was a theory that people were running with and a lot of people were talking about and then they someone re -examined it and said, I don't think this is real. Like I don't think sperm has any ability to kill other sperm. But the idea was that like some of your loads were like warriors and they would go out there and try to find the other loads in there and take them out.

2:20:20Just fuck them up. Yeah. You know, that's why your dick is shaped that way. The head of a penis is literally designed to plunge out the other sperm and pull it out. Really? Think about the shape. So the head of the penis is like this, then it's got the lip, right? It's the curve. Well, that's just cool. It plunges in and the lip gets all the other gizz, scoops up back there. Because ladies back in the day, we're just getting pulled, just nodding in. Yeah, well, the primate days. I mean, think about it. Yeah. If a female was trying to mate, like one male would fuck her, another male would fuck her, nobody knew whose baby it was because there was no sense of paternity.

2:20:59It was just everybody fucked everybody. And so the penis was probably designed and evolved in that way to act as like a plunger where you're like sucking out the other dudes' gips and shooting your own gips. Damn. Yeah, I mean, it's like, it's an evolutionary trait of the shape of the penis. Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you look at this. It's like a shape of a, and having like a little head. So why is this team's curved? Yeah, probably somebody who probably ride them broke it. Penal fracture. That's real. My buddy Joe Riggs, happened to my buddy Joe Riggs. Joe Riggs, the MMA fighter. Yeah, we both live with him at Brooklin.

2:21:35Yeah, yeah, trying to be a hero. Of course he did. Pulling all the way and pulling all the way out. But, guys, you see, Mariah went to visit her parents in Utah and it's a big Mormon country. And when she was in the backwood, there was this old guy taking pictures with like 30 young girls in their dresses Man getting those girls on board with those beliefs early When they're young it's I mean look there's cults But when there's a like when there's a religion when you know the guy who made it Like Joseph Smith was a real con man. He was 14 years old when he wrote all that stuff Which one was that?

2:22:14Mormonism. Mormonism. Yeah. 14. Yeah, he said he found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus. And only he could read them because he had a magic rock. And then the angels came and took the gold tablets away. He said, so when the the talents people said, where's the tablets? I said, the angels came and took them away. What if? Yeah. What if? Yeah. Who's to say? Imagine if it was true. Yeah. So he started it and all these years later, it's like, but one of the weird things about Mormonism is like they if it is a cult I guess it is they are the nicest fucking cult members ever They're so nice I know I don't I don't really know any Mormons.

2:22:54Oh, I know a ton really yeah Yeah, I go to Utah a lot and I know a lot of them from there and I know I had some neighbors They were friends with back in LA that were that were Mormons. They were so nice and they know like it was a Started by that dude means 14 type. Yeah, don't leave it though They just, they believe it. It's interesting, we have this one family, and they left the country for like a year for their kids, for their education, and took them to Europe. And then when they came back, they left the church. They just, not being there for a year. They came back to like, this is kind of ridiculous.

2:23:28But she was talking about it, and she said one of the things that she recognized, that it makes her very vulnerable to like charlatans and gurus and stuff like that, Because she was kind of programmed to always believe the preacher and program to always believe the church But she was kind of recognizing it in herself and she has this flaw in the way she views the world That's scary some of those guys are such like good talkers the one that the wake oh guy here Oh, you see videos of him talk. Yeah, holy shit Divinions believe it. Yeah branched to Vittians. Yeah, the wake up the prophet. Yeah, and it's always this guy of fuck everybody.

2:24:07Yeah and no one else gets a fuck them. He fucked everybody's wife. See that's not my good. Yeah yeah they only could fuck him. It's it's really a wild though that that sort of style of running a group of people has always existed. You know Mark Andrewsson this very wealthy and famous tech guy was on the podcast. He was telling me there's like active cults in California right right now. They're just successful. I'm like, really? Like how many? Like not so on social media type stuff too, right? I think they go on social media. I mean, I kill everything. I've had that for sure. I kind of like, I can stay fast and move.

2:24:46Keep moving. If you're running a cult today, that's Satan. That's Satan. Stay off that. Crazy. It's just this place that we almost had down here. When you watch that documentary, Holy Hell, we were talking about this last night that we always say is like the beginning of all cult movies. It looks like They're great dancing in the water. Yeah, Ocho wow wow. Oh, so good He's got a lot of good books. Yeah, I love how he was fucking where iced out watches take Democracy is by the people of The people for the people Yeah, he convinced the people are retarded

2:25:33That fucker is That was so that was so one point to see a guru saying find that video. Yeah the mother fuckers love that video Yeah, that was a well -made documentary too. Yeah, wow while country right see it wasn't him that was fucked up though Sheila, yeah, yeah, here's got a hot

2:25:54I'm just getting him on the pot and he does this

2:26:04By the people, off the people, far the people. But the people are retarded.

2:26:23It goes on further but you get the point. Yeah, but also like if anybody seemed like a guru it's that guy. Yeah, like you're looking his eyes like he looks like Like a legit wise guru and it seems like his I like I've read one of his books too His ideas were very interesting and very legit deep. Yeah, but what that would happen? Well went down that town That was great. They're poison Yeah, yeah, and then brought all the homeless into vote for Yeah, so they fucking took over the town and the homeless people like finally we've got a community They're like yeah, we're no one you get the fuck out of here.

2:27:01That's crazy. Shippin back out Yeah The cults man, it's it's it really is a strange thing that people want to follow this one person and you know this one person like Leads this community and can't be challenged or questioned and it's like, oh. And it's so much easier back in the day without the socials. Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, because you can just lie about stuff. You ever see the guy from Australia that said he was Jesus? He's like, he literally says he's the reincarnation of Jesus and this is a woman that's with him. And he says that she's Mary. And she really believed that she was Mary.

2:27:35And then she found out that there was another Mary in the past. But he had said this other girl was Mary. And then they're like, hey, what about this other girl? She says she was Mary. Like, that was a mistake. That's why she found out there's another Mary. That was it. I think that was a big one. Yeah. Because that also never he was like, we hate him in a way. He's all can you walk on water though? Yeah, let me see you got turned water in the wine. Right. It's weird a lot of religious people that they'll just look at the beliefs. They won't look at who formed those beliefs and they like, when did they form those beliefs?

2:28:04And who was it? Like, even Jehovah's Witnesses, like this Charles Taze Russell didn't even know Greek. and he wrote this whole new translation of the Bible. Everyone got on board. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah, there's always people like that. But I mean, the original Bible itself, like one of the weird things is the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is the oldest versions of some of the stories in the Bible. They're different. They're in Aramaic. And it's like, well, should we all just read that now? You know, and why are we going on the New Testament? Instead of the Old Testament, is the Old Testament the real thing?

2:28:39Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It's all, I always wonder, like, where did it start? What was the experience that led these people to write these things down? It makes sense if it was mushroom psychedelics. Like, that makes the most sense. People are fucking tripping and seeing these stories and writing them down. Well, that's Marcus Arellius too, you know. I mean, that was one of the more interesting things about diving deep into ancient Greek culture is that you find, like, this book, the immortality key from the sky Brian Mararescu, who found that the Ilusinian mysteries when they were all these people were coming to a lucis from all over the world and taking part of these mystery ceremonies, they never know what they were doing until recently and recently they started doing these tests on some of the vessels that they found of wine vessels and they were laced with psychedelics.

2:29:28So now they know for sure and they've opened up a field of study at Harvard and they're exploring this and they're doing more testing and more studying. They know that the people that founded democracy were tripping balls. Wow Which makes sense. I think so you'd have to be tripping to say look instead of one person running things like solid vote Hmm, that's all vote. There's nobody else is doing that. Yeah, everybody was like off with their head The king is here lay down the throne. That's crazy It's one king running the show. Yeah, was there a point when you were super religious or not at all when I was little I was a little kid and I went to Catholic school when I was first grade But my the none that taught Catholic school was such a cut that it was like easy to realize that it wasn't real I'd like lost all of my faith in organized religion when I was seven years old.

2:30:14Yeah, and your parents were but but no When my parents split up when I was young and then my mom when my mom married my stepdad my stepdad was a hippie So it was like completely and then we lived in San Francisco In the time I was seven years old, so it was like the height of the Vietnam War, the hippie movements and full bloom. My stepdad had long hair. We lived around all these just counter culture people. That was like a big part of my upbringing from like seven to 11. So there was no religion back then. But I think religions are a good scaffolding for people. And I think there's something absolutely beautiful about a lot of the ideas of a lot of organized religions that really, really benefit people.

2:30:57But I also think it could be used as a tool to control people. Like almost everything. My mom, I feel like it's good for her, just the community sense. Because she doesn't have, like we go to the gym, you go to the green room, you go to the comedy store, we have a community to where she just believes in her religion so much because she gets this joy from going to church because she's around in this community. But she just, it's so crazy. She will look me dead in the eyes and tell me that her religion, Christianity, is the only religion, All the other religions are made up and that most of them will tell you the same thing.

2:31:27Yeah, that's crazy Yeah, that's the problem. It's like somebody's got to be wrong Exactly, I wonder who's the most most like wealthy religion. It's a ladder days or what is it? I've looked it up recently actually Scientologists They own a lot of real estate Scientologists is an interesting one because they sued the federal government to get tax exempt status What? Not only do they know who made that one, but the guy who made that one was an author. Not only is he an author, he's the single human being, Elron Hubbard, who created Scientology and Dianetics. He is the single most prolific author in human history.

2:32:08He has wrote more words and more books than any human being that's ever lived. So he's got to create a mind. He's got to create science. his books are Terrible no way terrible this dude probably never had a second draft in his life. They are so bad They're unbelievably stupid like punctuation. I just dumb Just like ramblon nonsense here goes the Catholic Church. Oh, yeah, they're the richest Very definitely the institution with the highest wealth in the entire globe is estimated the operational budget of the globe Job. Job. There's a lot of glib, flask, flask, flask. The disc. Never know. The firmament.

2:32:48Oh yeah. 170 billion. There's a lot of money, bro. Oh yeah. And they got this little thing that, you know, the occasionally kids. Yeah, it's, you know, it's only one out of every three though. It's occasionally some molestation. That's crazy. I feel like the Catholic Church is so inextrable connected to molestation that if you say like Catholic priest, people think good kids getting fucked. That's crazy. That's fucking insane. That's insane. There's not another thing on Earth like that, other than actual chlamelesters, where you automatically have at least some connection in your mind. Like if a Catholic priest says, hey, I want your son to come over my house for a sleep.

2:33:31No, wait, what the fuck are you talking about? But if a boxing coach is like, hey, we're gonna take some kids over the house for a sleepover, We're gonna take them on an early morning run, you know, and then we're gonna do this and we'll have them back to by Saturday and the kids come back all laughing Yeah, you know like you like this guy's been doing this they've run camps. Yeah, everybody camps out church camp It can happen. It's normal, but if it's a Catholic priest everybody goes what? Yeah, you're gonna be alone with the kids the fuck you are Some religious too like if a kid says hey this guy this elder whatever molested me they have it in their their Rules or whatever that there's need to be two witnesses There needs to be two witnesses or it didn't take a precaution.

2:34:15Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing about that is that it's somehow or another repeating cycle. The people that get molested, one that molesting, other people. That's weird. Oh, they create the demons fucking for real. It's like a vampire thing. Like you're getting bit by a man. Oh, it is. Yeah. Fuck, just fucking out for good. It fucks you up for good. Have you guys been to Rome? Have you ever seen like the Catholic Church and the Vatican? No, it's insane. The Vatican's incredible. I mean, I can't imagine the amount of money in art that they have. Really? It's so overwhelming. Like, there's so much art.

2:34:53They have like priceless pieces just laying next to other priceless pieces and you go on this tour through the Vatican of the art collection. It's fucking unfathomable art. Is it like the place in Abu Dhabi? What was that place called? the big where we wore our suits to and got a tour of the church. That was the the Muslim Center. I don't remember what it's called. You know I'm talking about the churches one of the fucking the biggest ever. I thought you were the go and pray and they fucking it's a mosque mosque. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That was like powerful. You walk in there. You know I was almost Muslim like that.

2:35:31Well that's one of the ways that people do get converted just by the gorgeousness of it. Is this it? Yeah, it's part of it. It's fucking insane. I don't know so the Vatican though. That's like a older building Well the Vatican is essentially a country It's actually a country inside a room So that's one of the ways to keep the child molesters is they can't they can't like Extradite them. They can't like what yeah, yeah, so some high up. They'll hide them They'll hide people in the Vatican What the Vatican is, it's like I think it's like a hundred acres or something like that. And it's inside the Catholic Church's control.

2:36:09So it's like a country inside the city of Rome. Oh yeah, yeah, a lot of security. It's the country inside the city of Rome essentially. Wow. You still haven't been to the pyramids, right? No. I haven't either. Is there like a lot of tourism? Like I remember seeing like there's the pyramids, but if you like pan this way, there's like a hotel and like. Yeah, there's a four seasons. That's crazy. the four seasons you see the pyramids in Giza. That's why. Yeah. I'm gonna get there. I'd like to go there. It was this summer we were trying to figure out if we're gonna go to Egypt and Greece or just Greece.

2:36:40And so we chose to just go to Greece. Greece was incredible. Never been there. When you go see the Parthenon you're like, oh my god, this is 2 ,500 years old and probably older because they built it upon an existing structure, the Acropolis and they don't know how old that is. like that's all kind of been there for thousands of years before that. Was that a good age to bring your daughters? Yeah, pretty good age. They enjoyed it. I mean I think any age is a good age to get kids to see different things, different cultures. I mean I've been traveling with my kids since they were really little. We took them to other countries when they were like two years old.

2:37:16Just a plane ride. Yeah, a plane ride is a bomber. But with kids dude, you give them a fucking iPad with some movies. Yeah, they just chill, give them snacks. They're in their little, so seats don't bother. Give him a little heroin. Seeds don't bother them because they're little. So you just sit in that seat, fucking chill. I -pads have amazing battery life. Yeah. You watch fucking seven movies in a row, and next thing you know, you're in Italy. Speaking of heroin, you had that one doctor car heart. Car heart. Yeah, car heart on. And I listen to that, and then we did a podcast on ours, and it got clipped to full.

2:37:47I was like, yeah, I would produce some heroin with them, like. And it got clipped up all everywhere. Me promoting heroin and doing heroin and stuff. It was pretty funny, but that was a fucking interesting one. He's fascinating. He's a fascinating guy. Very fascinating. He had a very interesting outlook on drugs. Well, you know, he was a straight -laced guy who didn't do any drugs at all until he became a researcher. And then when he was a clinical researcher, he realized, he's a professor at Columbia. And he realized when he was doing research, it's like, oh, our perceptions of the effects of drugs are all just a lot of propaganda and bullshit.

2:38:18And a lot of the problem is like, impure drugs, abuse of these drugs. like Molly and stuff like Molly heroin yeah like candy is not yeah candy is a little kid just kids for like giving them fucking sour patch kids and skittles and they're just fucking or just out on sugar for a little bit it's okay for like a 350 pound person who's clearly gonna die from a heart attack to go into a gas station load up on the ice cream load up on the candy and head out killing themselves okay there's a lot of people killing themselves in this country with food but the drug one was just I always thought that was interesting because I was Terrified marijuana growing up my dad was a cop my mom was a nurse It's in my head that this is just fucking poison bad when you first try it.

2:39:04This fucker made me put a joint in my mouth Well, we we we be training twice a day and he'd come home and still be like let's go do some and just be jacked up I'm like bro. There's a lot of good athletes smoking this week. Just try it dude That's what's energy I train in the morning. I mean 19 years old moved down to Phoenix train in the morning train at night He and him and his buddy are chilling and we're at the apartment. I'm just like want to do something. So I took a puff Yeah, I fucking killed out for a little bit of change my life I was able to because I it's hard, you know hard to fucking get into that state But now it's a lot easier.

2:39:36I mean some people who do it though and then just every time something's going on And they just smoke and then they're just lazy. I think it's bad for a lot of people. Yeah, I agree I think some people are just lazy. I mean if you give them weed and blame it on the weed. Yeah Yeah, it doesn't make me lazy. It makes me the opposite if I smoke weed and I haven't done the things I need to do I go oh god. I gotta go to work. Yeah, Sam. I start freaking. I like that paranoia. I do too. It makes me start thinking about What I got it fuck I gotta dial in my diet. I gotta fucking yeah, I gotta make I gotta get to the gym I gotta train I give me that anxiety like oh fuck.

2:40:10I'm the champ. I got a fucking I gotta do everything right. It gives me that paranoia. Do you know there's a thing that people say commonly that when someone becomes a champion they almost get 30 % better, just because of being a champion. Do you feel like that's gonna happen to you? I feel like I felt that after I beat Alfred in my free, my contender series fight. I felt like I won, I just felt like I got way better just because I had just fought out of the biggest name, biggest fight. I don't know. I feel like I feel like I have a lot of work to do. I didn't get back to the gym as fast as possible.

2:40:47But knowing how big of a beast algebra is and knowing that you sat him down with the right hand, how much confidence is that? It wasn't even the more of the confidence like I was just not gonna take it down. He had me up against the fence where he wanted me twice, couldn't take me down. Not gonna mount, I knew I could do that. The question was, can I not get taken down? He took Henry down four times. He had me up against the fence exactly where he wanted me. and you couldn't take me. Now that's where I got my most confidence from, for sure. Knocking them out, I felt like I knew I could do that.

2:41:14It's such a big advantage to being a really good striker. Because if your whole thing is you have to close the distance and clinch with someone and you're a good striker, but it's not your thing, like you're not just looking to put it on somebody. It's like you're using as a tool to enact your skill set. Yeah. To have that fucking, one shot. Also for marketing like how many times do people see that Eddie wine linux? That one is great. That's one of my favorite that one Dink it miss the way slap it was that the apex it was quiet. You just hear I can hear him going He was snoring that was crazy Who's the last person in like the smaller weight class divisions to one shot KO people to win the belt even by KO to walk off and KO people though as they're ever Hmm Well Marlin one shot chaos people and Corey's one one shot yeah, yeah, yeah, but with like one straight right hand Yeah, but I feel like yeah, I'm once I get back to real training these really hoping these stem cells fucking just Yeah, it's gonna.

2:42:19I'm optimistic Yeah, and by the way you can come back once a month and keep the shot up Yeah, bring him as a man. Yeah, very knowledgeable dude ways to well That was fucking super knowledgeable and they stack a bunch of different things together. They're very beneficial And he's always up on the latest studies and he he's also got this incredible memory So you talked to him about he can relay all the information a very dissolvable way and they do peptides and everything there everything Everything I'm all about the peptides. I've been you know I was talking about this last time as well that the UFC is trying to Allow people to take peptides again specifically BBC 157 which just helps you heal.

2:42:56I mean, that's really what it's about. It just helps tissue, soft tissue damage for a pair quicker. God, that would be so. What about the IPA moral in the CJC? That does not help with joints, ligaments, and bone density. Yes, it does. And it also promotes human growth hormone. Yeah. And that would be beneficial as well. You know, you look, I just think this whole idea of purity is horse shit because there's not, the purity in sport in terms of like supplementation, Are you allowed to take creatine? You are. Okay, well creatine is a performance enhancing substance. 100 % protein. Absolutely. It's not just physically enhancing creatine is cognitively enhancing.

2:43:34There's some great benefits to supplementing with creatine. And then there's also your stacking BCAAs, your branch chain amino acids, it's going to give you a benefit. Now those are supplements. You're getting it from a supplemental form instead of from your food. And you're getting it on top of your food, you're stacking it. You're doing with a bunch of other stuff. you're taking beta alanine before you exercise, that's performance enhancing. If you take cortiseps mushrooms, cortiseps mushrooms like on it, shroom tech, 100 % helps you hit an extra gear when you're training. You know, there's a lot of pre workouts there, illegal.

2:44:04There's a lot of stuff that's legal. That is 100 % performance enhancing. I think what we have to keep people doing is doing supernatural levels of testosterone and grow tormon and things that allow like V -torbalphard to become TRT. That's true. That's true. Yeah, Alster. That's but even that it's like listen if anybody should be able to fucking do that It's guys you fight in a cage for a living with anybody should be able to do that to like be at their prime As long as they weigh 135 pounds when they fucking step on that scale I think we're we're wrapped around this idea of cheating I think we should be wrapped around this idea of optimizing and I think optimization should be the most important thing Yeah, I mean you're if you're 35 36 37 in the UFC You've been competing in the UFC for 10 years and you're not allowed to just Do any of these peptides you're not allowed to do any of this you go to the get your blood work and the doctors like Hey, you're lacking in these areas you this could benefit your life Yeah, it changed your ability to train change your performances inside inside the occhio and change your ability to recover Change the recovery and train like I haven't trained in the last few weeks, and it's oh Oh, it's crazy.

2:45:11Well, this is the thing about Jiu Jitsu, right? Jiu Jitsu, specifically Abu Dhabi, which is the premier Jiu Jitsu organization. They don't test for steroids and everybody openly takes steroids. And so this is how they're able to compete with guys like, when you're at that level, like Gordon Ryan level, Gordon is open about steroid use. He trains 365 days a year. How are you going to do that? Yeah, if you're not choose to. No chance. How are you going to recover? How are you recovering? You're weight lifting in the morning and then you're doing jiu -jitsu at night every day 365 days a year. That would be nice.

2:45:47Now let's train like that. That's the way you train like that You train like that on juice and if you do you become I mean if you also are super intelligent Super dedicated and you have John Donner her and you're right you become Gordon Ryan At 27 which is just bonkers insane greatest of all time hands down consensus no one's arguing. Yeah 20, 20. Negative C2, those grillas go at it like Andregalvo and I don't know if you were gonna have those ADCCs. That's fucking sweet. Imagine if kids like, I mean, KDRTOLO and TyRutolo, those guys on that stuff would be fucking annoying. Well, you know what though, they're so young, they shouldn't be on anything.

2:46:26Like don't ruin your fucking endocrine system. They're competing at such a high level without it. But as time goes on, you know, Like even guys are 1920 and you had 23, 24, my fucking shoulder, I back my ribs, like how many digits you guys do you know that I fucked up backs? Yeah, so all of them. Everybody fucked up necks. Fucked up backs. Do you do anything for your neck? Like you do iron neck, or anything? I mean, God, my neck, I feel like my posture's like a little fucked up, so I've always had like good, really good guillotine defense and shit, but I don't know, my neck is that took a beaten, But it feels pretty strong and not too bad with my back fucking gets fucked up from wrestling a lot Do you ever do things specifically to strengthen your neck?

2:47:09Not really just wrestle dude get an iron neck We like that one here. They'll give you guys is the shit greatest invention ever for working out your neck really you Use it. Mm -hmm. We have a scene. No, do you have to show that will keep your posture so sharp mine? Yeah, I'm just a cognizant of it Because that's a bad posture. But you just keep this fucking halo on your head and it's got a bungee cord and you back up like this. It's like a 50 pound bungee cord and then you do this. Stresette. Oh. It's going to go all the way. That's it right there. I'll show it to you guys. We have it in the gym.

2:47:43Restling definitely. People hanging on your neck though. If you're doing fucking five, six rounds and you're resting. That's my favorite practice. 100 % not even close to anything else. Grappling going live from the feet. We've such good wrestlers that are Jim too. Why is that your favorite? It's just it's fucking exhausting. It's uh, I love hitting people and takedowns. It's there's a high It's almost like knocking someone out not quite as good But you hit a little duck on somebody and you score on them. It's fucking fun. I feel good when I do that But yeah, but people hanging on your neck especially when you got you're going with these college wrestlers like Bryce Meredith When you fucking snap your head down your fucking try to keep it posh up.

2:48:23Yeah three time D1 all American like two time NCAA finalists like they're different level wrestlers. Yeah and they're it's fun going with those high ass level wrestlers. It's fucking it's humbling it's fucking but yeah that's my favorite practice those are those are my favorite. Hey you don't see wrestlers like going well how old is Jordan Burrows actually because he's been wrestling at that high level. 6. Is he really? Oh shit. He's still at the top of the That's the same freak to be able to Jordan 35 and practice like that Wrestling's fucking brutal and 100 % natural cuz he's getting tested all the time.

2:48:57That's impressive He wouldn't even drink one of these I offered him a CBD Kill cliff and he was like what's in there? I go CBD. He's like I don't think I can I'm like I did my pop for some I'm like this Like this is not gonna make you pop for anything. I can't take a chance The trickiest shit with that, what I've learned from my experiences, like this one doesn't say it, but if it said dietary supplement on the back, or on the bottom, and if it says supplemental facts instead of nutrition facts, that's when you can't take it in less its third party tested so like a Celsius says dietary supplement on the bottom and it doesn't say it's not third party tested.

2:49:32So that you could you could test positive for that. But why guarantee you if you drink kill clips? No, those ones don't. Yeah, those ones are good It's just vitamins and minerals and fucking But certain drink you got to be so fucking careful He grabbed these gummies at at the store the other day these veggie gummies And he's like do you want one? I looked at the bag and on the bottom it says dietary supplement And I can't have if you're in the usada pull you cannot have anything that says dietary supplement that is not third party tested Because you could fucking test for something that makes sense It's fun.

2:50:02Is it like a deal they have with the the usada? Is it like a year deal or is it this pay him yearly for it? You see yeah, I'm not sure

2:50:15Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean some of the guys that got caught weren't even from usada like TJ wasn't from usada I think it was an athletic commission Yeah But you know who I can't wait to see climb up to is bone echo like Yeah, bone nickel versus calms out bone nickel versus Paul Costa or Strickland. Yeah, man That's gonna be he's got fucking hands. Yeah, that's what's interesting. He's such an athlete. Yeah, you know He's that next fucking breed. Yeah, yeah, very interesting to watch see what happens with that guy He's a big yellow contour. Yeah, big bow hunter man Yeah, he seems like an interesting dude.

2:50:52He seems like he's just doing everything right. That's one thing He's living like a champion. That's where I feel like I was doing before all these guys before Like when I was young in UFC. I was living like a champion. I was pretending I am a champ But I have you know the Fender Bell. I got it and a lot of these guys don't Crazy premiere you had like what that showed the world who you were with fucking Snoop Dogg and your whole my Doing commentary and really there's no other opportunity for that to happen because they don't even do that anymore Yeah, one season for I was on the first season. They did it.

2:51:25Everyone, I mean, Snoop got a lot of hate and like for that. So I don't think they did it back, had them back on again. But yeah, I luck the fuck out that right there went so. And he posted on his IG a bunch. He sent me a text after the fight. You did it nephew.

2:51:46Look at that. That's skin.

2:51:58Oh So funny, bro

2:52:05He's still caused me sugar Shane sometimes That's amazing. Oh, that is funny. I think he called you that on the podcast Yeah, yeah, he does he's still though He's amazing. He's amazing. I do He just one of those he's one of those guys that it kind of almost weird me out that he was here really He was like I'm hanging out with Snoop Dogg and he's like we're talking on these rolling blunts He's sitting there rolling on some like oh my god. I'm smoking we would snoop dog Like this is so crazy. Yeah, this is so crazy. That dude's connected. I think he's a great guy, too Yeah, just a great guy. Yeah, this and again out fucking real hustlers been around forever him a shack Yeah, him a shakil o 'Neil are fucking Be as his man.

2:52:43Yeah, yeah, I love that Is it motivate you being around him too? Is he one of those guys that or is he just? Snoop like you think he'd be he's just very nice very friendly very chill and cool to be around He gave me a bunch of gifts gave me some cool jackets Death row chaining throw. Yes, I'll that yeah, he's just fucking awesome It's just yeah, it's just weird to be around like It's where to be on cert around certain iconic people like I'd quit in Daren Tino in here. I'm like that's Quentin That's crazy. Really quitting Dantino. Dantino? I'd lucky lad met him one other night. I met him at the comedy store one night.

2:53:21He actually saw me perform and he came up to me and he goes, dude, you fucking kill, that was awesome. And I'm like, holy shit, that's Quinterino. That's Quinterino. I mean, I remember being just moving to LA. And I was with this girl a day and we went to see, at the man's Chinese theater, we went to see Pulp Fiction. And I remember sitting in that movie thing and go, What kind of fucking movie is this this movie so wild? I don't think I've seen that have you never seen pulp fiction. He hasn't seen anything. I know what turned to you is I don't know shit about and like you don't know like the hateful eight or Django or no Jackie Brown nothing.

2:54:00Oh my god. You have so many good movies to see kill Bill I've heard of kill Bill, but I don't know what he's do for talking like video games. I quit after the Peter Yon fight I quit yeah, I'm like I'm I'm fucking I'm fighting for the belt. I'm fucking using this those a couple hours a day to recover Yeah, I got ptery on fight Yeah, man, it'll suck that time baby. It's so fun and it's a lot of energy hour and a half a day though with the boys Where you can just let loose you feel like you're in war. Yeah No

2:54:39the day. Yeah. I imagine if you've never seen a Tarentino movie and someone's like, hey, check these out on Netflix. You got some shit to watch. Oh, yeah. I said, what'd it be fun? Bro, bro, you've got some fucking movies to see. You got some movies to see. What years are they like old old? No. Well, they started in 94. That's perfection. Yeah. So start there. Okay. Pulp Fiction's fucking amazing reservoir. Or reservoir dogs. That was his first one. That's fucking incredible. He's the actor. He producer. No. Well, he, he, Yeah, sometimes I have small roles in some of his movies, but he directs produces rights and he's the fucking man.

2:55:12I mean, he's never made a bad movie. He himself is responsible for some of the greatest movies of all time. That's a crazy fucking skill. Yeah, and he won't do but 10. He's gonna do 10 movies. He's done nine so far. He's trying to figure out what his 10th movie is and then he's done. Really? Yup, he's thinking that I'm done. So he writes everyone's lines. He writes everything. Yeah. That's such a crazy fucking skill. He wants a bomb of time in Hollywood. Oh my God, it's good. God damn it. So he's got nine movies I need to watch. Nine bangers. Okay. He didn't have one movie that I watched. I'm like, eh, really?

2:55:46That's so crazy. Not one. All of them are wild. All of them are hyper violent. Who? To the point where you're like, cheese. Yeah. Once upon a time in Hollywood, it's like he's grandfathered in. Because there's this, it's about the Manson family. And Brad Pitt. Yeah Brad Pitt is the hero in this movie and there's a scene where he Kills a woman smashing her head against a fireplace Jesus and you're like this is the hero of the movie Who's doing like and I was watching this going? Turn to his grandfather then to make this kind of movie for nobody else can make this kind of movie today in this in this climate It's just too fucked up Sean's never even seen wolf a wall street.

2:56:28Not yet. It's great movie. I'm nervous good. It's great I'm like, I just know I might, that's what might send me downhill. I'm not sure. Okay. Maybe. I can see how people do that though. Start making a lot of money, get an opportunity to go travel, go to the club, he's fucking fun, chicks. Well, also if you're a stockbroker, like your whole game is about making money. Well, why are you making money if you're not spending it? And if you're going to spend it, you're going to spend it in extravagant, wild, crazy ways because that's the thrill to have that money. and you're fucking in that hedonistic snort and coke lifestyle.

2:57:02Oh, in another life. Buying watches, can you have a little watch collection? Yeah, I do. But I like functional watches more than like baller, diamond and crustacea. I like like tool watches, I like dive watches, like grand sacos and Rolexes and chillets. Yeah, it's nice for Rolexes to see when you're doing the UFC and stuff. Yeah, I want to do the UFC I wear a nice watch, but like this is a garment I wear this this is my watcher where when I'm hunting Fucking whole another world home the watch world. Yeah, the watch rolls a whole not the world. Yeah people could drop some serious Cheddar on those.

2:57:37Oh, these are running around like edge sheer hand He was running around and someone said that's a half a million dollar watch. He's got on my head Okay, hey fucking redhead

2:57:51We're kind of watching you wearing their Sean. Oh, I'm a Richard Is it re -shard me lay? Oh, dude, you went baller. Yeah, as a baller. Woo! That's not even the strong one. The strong one's over with Jamie. Jamie's got the strong one. I would maybe cry. I chucked the strong one towards you. Nope. Oh my god. That's fucking go. Holy shit, power. My eyes are water. Oh. Yeah. I just had it. Oh no no no. Oh Who I said I urge to hit it real quick? Yeah, oh my god Get in there gets in your blood when we leave those around the The comedy club gremium. You always like last night everybody's hitting. Yeah, I don't even mean to happen Well, you see people do it like I want to try I want to try Yeah, I wanted I always wanted to try after seeing you guys hit it on the bottom like god I've got a ripple are they allowed to do that in boxing anymore because they used to do that with their given themselves in between rounds.

2:58:53Imagine you get cracked and you're like, oh, good. Yeah, no shit. I wonder if that'll do it. How do I know if the commission's allowed? It's banned. It's banned. Yeah, commission. I wonder why is it a performance enhancer? Or is it just dangerous? After Panama Lewis gave Aaron prior something some unknown substance in between rounds against Alexis Arguero, Panama Lewis was like known for cheating. like it was a big part like he's a like a known bad guy and he gave He gave Aaron prior this he goes give me another bottle know the one I mixed. Oh, and he gives it to him And he gives to Aaron prior who was a known he had known coke problems Him probably use a smelling so it's a growing concern.

2:59:35I'm on look at that guy's eyes Did they find out what was in his drink? No, 80 % of NFL players are known to use it 80 % what's the problem? I wonder what it's like. Well, that's, I've seen the biggest. Oh, look at this shit. We've got problem. Chama patients often suffer neck injuries that may be undetected. The first response to a noxious smell to suddenly jerk the head away from the stimulus that this can result in a dislocating an injured spine and potential perilous. Whip -lap, yeah. I can see that shit. Well, I can see if you had a hurt neck. But if you did have a hurt neck, well, if you got KO'd and football, you're clashed.

3:00:11And your head's fucked up and you give you a smelly I just saw you. Oh! Yeah. Yeah, and you don't realize your next jacked, and you, I could see that. But in other circumstances, like. That's like one percent chance. Yeah, like if you get dinged with an uppercut, and they in between rounds, they give you that, like, woo, woo. And then I'm fighting because they can hide concussion symptoms. Oh, I guess I didn't benefit. I didn't expect you wouldn't know your fucked up. No. That's what this says. It says in the 70s, they were eventually banned. I could see that though. I kind of just fucking put you in there.

3:00:40But is it better to just go out and still be concussed and fight because people are always concussed and fight very good boy. I mean think about snoop, I mean, excuse me. Think about, excuse me. Like how many times has a fighter been cracked early in a fight and then you see they're still dealing with that later in the fight and then afterwards they don't even remember the fight. Yeah, a lot. That happens often times, right? Like that person can cost. Yeah. That happens all the time. Like guys win fights and they're concussed. And they're like, you know, after the second round, I was on autopilot and I went back to my corner, I said, what round is it?

3:01:16They're like, round five, I'm like, what? How's this round five? Like, okay, out of sight in your versus Strickland, that first round, when he got cracked. Yeah. High likelihood of concussion. 100 % chance. 100 % chance. I mean, he got dropped, spun around, and then one, two, three, how many left he hit him with? I like pride 20. Clean, at least. A bunch were clean. You got it think he's dinged after that fight and when you only said his arms felt like rubber and like how much of that was a factor Yeah, could he easily been a factor when they said it didn't look like him in there. Maybe that's why I mean it easily could be from that Most likely especially shows up every time.

3:01:57Yeah, that's fucking hits him right back Oh, you have to put a little on your finger for next fight just a day. Yeah What are you? Tom Brady doing it. TV 12, maybe. Oh, really? He's part. I bet he is. He's known for doing every goddamn thing that works. Yeah, I just listened to him on the PBD pod. Oh, he was on that? Yeah, he was on that. Interesting guy. But that was good. Playing at that high level for that long, and being just taking care of his body, like listening to that shit. You have to be insanely smart. Yeah. To be a quarterback? That's the craziest fucking position in like all sports.

3:02:36I feel like no so much about what's going on I went to my first NFL game two weeks ago Did we on the re like in the sweeter? We were you without going on the 50 yard line I think front row 50 yard line changes that went into that close insane Which think of it it was incredible so fun. It's so fun. I can't watch it on TV Then there's like 80 ,000 people in there and everyone's going nuts when the cheering and it's in Dallas and the cowboys Hmm. Woo! Those players just look like dinosaurs marching off the field. Oh my God. Dude, they're so fucking huge. They're so massive. Yeah. You know, it's kind of weird that the UFC has a 265 pound weight limit, isn't it?

3:03:15I feel like there's a whole another ball game if you open up that 265 plus. Right. It's a good, super heavyweight division. But who would do it? Because everyone is preparing to be 265, right? So like who you would have to develop your your talent outside Where they have a super heavyweight division and I don't know of anybody that has one you have to Could probably figure this one FC have a weight limit on their heavyweights I'm not even sure that's a good question Google that Jamie does one FC have a 265 pound weight weight on I looked to step the other day I couldn't find the last super heavyweight fight was like in 2018 Remember the pride ones with like that do do young Choi the seven foot guy fight in fade or oh Yeah, they'd have those super matches.

3:04:00Yeah, they had crazy fights over in pride. I'm so glad there's white classes Would not be right we fought UFC one Fuck I would have been fucked if you have your skills now though you You're not be fucked way back That one SCS 265 also that's such a weird number. Why is that boxing thing or no? No Not at all. Boy boxing does a half of the weight. Boxing. Doesn't have the weight. It's Tyson Fury's like two 80 to 90 sometimes. Yeah. I feel like I'm more excited for the, I'm excited for that fight. But I feel like I'm more excited for Dylan versus Logan and KSI versus Tommy. Are you really? I don't know why.

3:04:40I just keep forgetting about, I feel like they're promoting it very well. I'm seeing it all over. And then I'm not really seeing Francis versus Tyson all over as much as I'm seeing the other ones. That's interesting. I'm not paying attention at all to the Dylan versus Logan other than the online drama occasionally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I try to avoid all that stuff. I don't want to be a little bit more. It's fucking off. This girlfriend is like, I know. Like, where's the line? I'm getting a new number. When I get my new number, I'm not putting any apps on my phone. Smart. I'm gonna keep this phone and just have apps on that phone and just every now and then when I have to post or something, then I'll post, but my new phone, no apps.

3:05:14I just, it's too much. You have a good time scrolling on Instagram though, seeing like bo -hunting stuff. Yeah, yeah. If I could curate it, But it's too late. I follow like 5 ,000 people because I'm you know I find someone post something I think is funny or something I like I'll go follow why it's not gonna hurt me to follow I'm so I follow so many people yeah, and then the algorithm recommends people that I don't follow things I don't follow and so many of those are murder and Bumming are those on insta animal attacks by cheeks. Yeah, but that's normal You could find sex online. I mean that's like one third of internet traffic.

3:05:50Yeah, yeah If you seek it out, but but in the Instagram feed I don't even look at them seeing people get killed by bulls like Jesus Any of that I'm I Mass it's all muscle cars and people getting killed and people getting knocked unconscious How crazy is that fucking X -plad or just the plaid Tesla is insane? I got have you driven it over again? I have one. Oh, yeah. I have pullover again. And literally the exact, so right before I went to Boston, a couple days before Boston, I got pulled over on the highway and pulled it into the same neighborhood and fucking right before I got here, I got pulled over same highway, same neighborhood, same cop, I'm like, fuck!

3:06:31So I gotta deal with that when I get home, but those X's are fucking insane. They're so fast. They're so fast. Even on the highway you're going 90, it's just like, it feels like you're going 60. It makes no sound. Yeah. And when you merge, you don't feel like a douchebag. If I merge in my Porsche, it's like, BAM! BAM! Like I feel like a dickhead. But I'm faster than that in the plaid, and I'm like, it's still no sound. Just, yeah, very well. It's like defies time. Yeah. It just, it's time travels. It's just, the way they move, it's zero to 60 in 1 .9 seconds. For a four door sedan. Stupid, bonkers.

3:07:09So stupid. It wait until he comes out with that little one. I'm excited that little two door the two door Yeah, the roadster that thing's gonna be 1 .5 760 It's gonna handle because all the weights gonna be at the bottom because that's where the weight of the battery says Jesus So it's like a beautiful center of gravity those cars have a phenomenal center of gravity. Yeah I'm hoping I'll get my license suspended. Are you worried? No, I feel like if I am I'll just fucking and sell them my cars, get a Sprinter van, and hire my dad to drive me around full time. So I'm not too worried about it. But I'd rather not.

3:07:44How many tickets do you have? I've only got a couple, but two in from the Lamborghini. None. Zero from the Lambo, zero from, I got the new Corvette, none from that. It's always in the Tesla. Always in the fucking Tesla. Going on the highway, going too fast. It's just too easy to cruise in those. I just don't feel like that's too fast. It's just not, it's like a good speed. 90's okay. It is in that thing. I think for certain people, not for an old grandma, but I'm fucking alert. I'm watching. You're a pro app. Yeah, I got to actually be able to go 90. I'm talking, see what I can do about that talk this.

3:08:15You can stay athletic commission. Why did they even make cars that go so fast where it's illegal to drive? Because it's kind of like they have to do it. Why are they making computers? Unless you're doing what Jamie does, are you doing video editing or something like that, or playing like insane computer games, why do you need that much processing power? But ever you get near, the new one comes out, you want the new thing. I mean people look at zero to 60 numbers. That's like a thing they all look at. What is it? Yeah, the new BMW N5's that was your decision to report to how you you're really going zero to 60 that fast What do you think it's like oh?

3:08:45Didn't have a new test a new electric lucid or some shit that's faster than the 1 .9? I don't believe so. I don't believe the lucid is faster But there is a super car that is faster than that. It's a electric two million dollar super car that somebody makes that's it fucking insane Jesus the new electric Ferrari's look the fastest thing that I've ever been in by far though is John Hennessy's venom John Hennessy do you know he is is that he's this Psychotic Texas tuner guy who takes like I have a ram my fucking love it I have a ram TRX even a stock ram TRX is the best truck I've ever driven. They're fucking great It's comfortable.

3:09:27It's got a very compliance suspension and it's crazy off -road capable. I mean those things you can baha race in those motherfuckers. And he takes that and he makes it a thousand horsepower. It comes from the factory, it's 700, seven something, and he cranks it up to a thousand. So it's a giant ram truck that goes zero to 16, like three and a half seconds. What's the venom? The venom is his supercar. It's all carbon fiber and it's 2000 horsepower. Oh, that's what it's called a venom? Yeah, do it. It's what's the zero six? Let's go back up. So it goes 250 miles an hour. It costs two and a half million dollars.

3:10:07That's what has looked like they went in. Yeah, he brought it here. You look at it and just go, oh my god. Do they make any other cars? Are they just saying? I make a bunch of shit, but this is a totally made in factory car. Oh, what he does with most stuff is tunes them. This thing is so insane. I mean it's and he took me for a ride in it. I was terrified Faster than the plaid. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot faster. Is it electric? No gas And it sounds like a demon. That thinks fucking sexy. It's so sexy. Well, you've seen it real life. It's incredible It's incredible.

3:10:44That's like Jesus Christ. That's the fastest thing I've ever been in Yeah, that thing's nuts. I mean, it's literally like a race car. You think about treating yourself to one Yeah, that's dangerous. If I want to go fast, I'll take the plaid. And if I want to have fun, I'll take a muscle car. I like muscle cars. It's about the sound. I never was a sound guy either, but I do like the sound of it. Bro, let you drive one of mine. One of the real ones. It's like you've got a fully independent suspension. It's got driving it on the Autobahn. Yeah, the Tesla. And top sea goes. No way. That's not. No, that's Colombia.

3:11:19Yeah, that's still. I was like, Jesus. But what is like what's 260 kilometers? I think you got it up to top speed over 200 miles an hour. Yeah, they're fast. Holy fuck. It's just how fast it gets to 60 this. So bombs. Yeah, I fucking love stepping on it. My little princess too, she loves it. When she's in the back and I step on a little bit, she goes, ah, she loves it. She's faster. I taught my 15 year old how to drive in that. Really? That's fun. With the on -luted Chris Muller. It's always a little bit fun. I never take it up. But I taught her how to drive in that. It's easy to control. That's the difference in that and like other high power cars You can drive in that very slowly easily.

3:11:58It's not hard to do. It's like the perfect car to drive around like for a commuter car It's the best car ever. I take it more than anything. Yeah, I'm always taking that or I take the ram It's weird when you drive the Tesla's to with the regenerative braking and getting a different car It's like what the fuck? Yeah, right is weird. You used to just driving with one pedal Yeah, letting it slow itself down or if you're on cruise control on a different car and you forget that doesn't slow down You get behind someone you fucking don't say don't when you hit that It's like stays in the lane. Oh, that's so nice.

3:12:28I need to use it fucking more because apparently So how many tickets have you got just like two within the last couple months, but this one I forgot three within like I know you got you that last one you didn't get a ticket because the cop knew you but This motherfucker was just in the same position. I was in you had to go to court and everything too I gotta go drive to him just the model three. That's like yeah, it's fast as fuck to love it. I love it That's a that's a great car for the value. Yeah. Oh my god I was at a red light and I was right that I was in my gg3rs Which sounds fucking insane and this this model three just like Yeah, I've had it mailed online.

3:13:08Yeah, you motherfucker silently. Yeah, and you know this kind of an economy car Yeah, for the price, those things are fucking incredible. Perfect, incredible. Yeah, and if you have a charger at your house, it's the shit. Yeah. Yeah, you just plug it in at your house. You never have to go to a gas station. You know those sketchy moments where you're coming home and it's 1 o 'clock in the morning, you're on E like fuck. I want to get gas, but I don't want to fucking pull into some weird station and get car jacked. You're right. Yeah, you see too many videos. I mean, especially in a busy city, the Huff Lane, when you can just click that self drive and it's back.

3:13:45That's not have a jack Yeah, you've seen people falling asleep in those things in traffic they're asleep in the car Yeah, this is fucking terrifying. I couldn't do that But those motherfuckers might work for 10 hours There's a lot of silicone valley people have just on their last edge last fuck yeah, random Adderalls Yeah, we still haven't been to a buckies. We keep hearing about buckies. Oh, I talked about it last time Yeah, yeah, we got to go. We went to HEB thinking it's buckies No, not a chb's gonna be sweet. Yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be a buck. I need the difference, but you keep hearing about HBX, I kept hearing on Killton and they talked about it, talk about it, I'm like, I gotta go.

3:14:22We go and I'm like, what the fuck? We thought it was like a whole food. We thought it was like a whole food. We thought it was gonna be like a nice organic whole foods or some shit. No, we got to go to whole foods. This place called Central Market that's actually better than Whole Foods. Really? Central Market's great. It's like in a whole food. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's also like an advanced whole food. It's like whole foods but even better. It's great, that place is great. out here, but HBs is a good, nice supermarket, but I think we went to a dirty experience, You buy tents at Bucky's. Yeah, we have Fishing equipment.

3:14:52Fuck it. Bucky's nuts. It's so big. Like you're talking about like hundreds of pumps. You're like, what is going on? It's like a parking lot filled with pumps. That's bad ass. Yeah, it makes sense. You're a bit when you said what. It's just taxes. It makes sense. Yeah. You usually do Instacart or you go shopping, where's your wife? What do you mean like when you get groceries and stuff? What's Instacart? Instacart's like a new app You can just go to whatever store click it in your thing and they'll believe it right to your door No go shopping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, is it constantly pictures?

3:15:27Or people kind of a little bit mostly leave me alone people are here Hi, like they're friendly. Yeah, it's not like It doesn't feel do fishy, you know, it's like they just folks. Yeah, shopping fans to listen to pod Some of the cool most people are just nice they come over hey like a show. Yeah, thank you. It's nice Yeah, that is nice That's how I feel like it is out kind of an Arizona where we're out out there But one thing does happen to people it's gonna happen to you too It's like as you get more and more famous sometimes people get anxiety about social circumstances Just because you don't want to get bothered yeah, I felt before yeah Where I'm like, God, just like I want to go take a PM at a restaurant I'm like I don't really want to walk past people and then go in the bathroom and sit in there and like Especially you because you're so identified.

3:16:10Oh, that's it. Yeah. And then I try to go incognito and I have like seven, I have like a sugar hat with a sugar shirt and sugar shorts. I'm like, that didn't work. My hair's fucking pink. All your cars are like flashing lights. I know. Yeah, yeah. What? Come on, man, you're a star. Yeah. That's how you got to do it. Hey, how did you pick that song that you came out to? Because it was the perfect song. I picked it. It's funny. I listened that song for a long time. But I played it in Abu Dhabi. I knew it wouldn't be a banger in Abu Dhabi because it's just different cultural. The pay -per -view, I knew it wasn't gonna be too good, but for me, I was like, this is my moment.

3:16:45I'm gonna walk out to it. I actually walked out to it too when I thought Jose Cignonis. So after I broke my foot when I came back, I walked out to it in Vegas at T -Mobile. Now I went away from it for a little bit, but I knew that was gonna fucking just... You got a song in mind for the rematch with Chita? Yeah, I don't, I do have a different song in mind, but I also might stick with superstar. So go one man. Yeah. And this is a thing that happens with certain fighters where when they play a song, people get used to it. Yeah, I was like, when you're a riotfabers, you come out to, oh yeah, Jose Aldo.

3:17:19That is right, Chris Wyman. Chaille even. Yep, Chaille. Yeah, there's a thing with fighters with a song with Anderson Silva. Hey, no sunshine when Jesus goes. Oh, he walked out of that. He do. I don't know that. Yeah. When John Jones comes out the chap is here That's a good one Matt Hughes's Yeah, country boy can survive that was the greatest one That was the greatest one because at the time you know when Matt was the fucking man and he would come out to that song Yeah, I was pimp Yeah, it's what's a great opening line to the preacher man says is the end of time Mm -hmm Yeah, the walkouts being there and that uh being out of UFC fight There's just something about those walkouts, dude.

3:18:03At that moment, everyone's just looking right at that tunnel way. It's so weird because even, it's the most calm I ever am in my life is in that moment before we walk. Really? Even in the back, but I'm at, I'm just calm. And you know, it's really cool that documentary crew has followed me around in this last fight. USC's putting out a really, really cool documentary next year. And they were following me around, but they were all the access in the back. And uh, but yeah, I just fucking feel so calm. You think that's from the meditation? I think it's definitely, I've learned how to get into that state of mind, but I also know that that's just where I perform the best that.

3:18:44I'm very calm. Do you ever feel yourself getting like hyped up or ramped up and then you just go slow down? No. Comment, you just, it's all calm. Just calm. The whole fight week, I feel very calm. Fight day, I feel very calm. and then just warming up in the back. I feel very calm and sometimes I'm like, yeah, I just fuck, I don't know. It's weird you go into, I have a conversation with myself to where I kind of with my breath, I'm gonna say, all right, I'm just gonna let my higher self take over. All the work was put in, I'm gonna just surrender to this moment, let the higher self take over. And I feel like I've kind of, I don't wanna say mastered that because, you know, I feel like he's always worked to do, but I feel like I've gotten him, I've been able to do it pretty much every single UFC fight.

3:19:29I've been able to go in there and just flow. Whatever happens happens. I completely accept that even if I go out there and lose, that my life is still good. You know, I still have my princess, still have my family, still have my friends, life's okay. And I feel like I accept that 100%. But I also haven't had to deal with the loss and our loss that's, you know, so we'll see how that, if it ever happens, but. That's why it's always impressive with people like Biss being after Hendo knocked him out to come back and be kind of a champion. Oh, yeah, and to do it with one I That's insane the guy fought 10 fights including winning the world title with one I that was one of my favorite moments And you see I don't I didn't watch the UFC very too far back But one of the one of the coolest moments was when biss being knocked out rock old was incredible was fucking insane It just shows you this sport you can't take anything fucking laugh you can't take anybody for granted you can't you can't be overconfident you can't you can't sleep on people you can't anything can happen look with the definition of overconfident going to that fight I feel like at his fucking demeanor and is just like everything yeah I mean and you know justifiably so yeah just smoke Chris wideman look like the fucking man everybody's like Jesus Christ is guys a stone cold killer smoked this being after a full fight camp.

3:20:48Now he's fighting him on two weeks. Yeah, that was sort of with that question mark kick. Ooh, and then guillotine them. Ooh, yeah. That was bad. Rock holds a fucking savage. He was a fucking savage. And then Mike Perry all pieced him like that. And there's Baronucco, that was great. I was excited for that. That was exciting. Mike Perry is just uniquely qualified to fight in that shit. He's built for that. He's designed for it. And he's kind of fighting them on the fuckers. I mean, even his grappling was underrated. He's fucking grapple. He's strong as shit and he's so game. And like mindset is such an important quality.

3:21:22And his mindset is a rot -wilder. Yeah, he just whips him. It's a savage. Just let's go. What a, I remember Bear Nuckle kind of got blew up a little bit for a second, but I don't, I haven't heard anything. Have they not had another big event yet? They're gonna have, look, Jorge Malsadal doing a very couple MMA. Yeah, which is, I liked that a lot. If you ever thought about doing that? I would never. Never. No, no. I like fucking that little bit of pad and I got for that baby. I feel like I got pretty strong hands though, like pretty big hands, strong hands, but I'd rather not. No break. Yeah, not rather not.

3:21:55I mean, I think what they're doing with the rap to is odd, like you rap the hand up and the wrist up, but you leave the knuckles, like one of the vulnerabilities of the hand is not just the fact that the hands are brittle, but the fact that when you punch something, like your hand does not really design to, you have to really be good at getting, just like to that in the right way. And if this happens, I fucked my wrist up once when I was young when I didn't tape it right. And I hit someone with a body shot and I caught their elbow and twisted my wrist back. My wrist was fucked up for like a year after that.

3:22:28It's just - You blew your bicep out during a body shot like that. Boom. I watched it separated. I was filming. He was sparring at a fight coming up. I was filming his rounds. And he threw a body shot in this guy and then fucking watched his bicep go up, do his arm. It was so t -shirt. Did you get it reattached? Yeah both of them yeah both oh both of them went out both and his brothers It's like crazy. It's weird. Yeah, it is weird. Yeah Matt Sarah did that and never got it fixed So when he makes one bicep Oh, it's like in the middle of it. It like pops up. It's like missing the front part of the bicep like up to here That dude the character.

3:23:03Oh, he's Focker is so funny. I like watching him on certain things. He's a fucking he's great. I'll be yeah Yeah, we did this podcast with my friend John Rallo, Dean Thomas and him. It was amazing. It's like he's he's so funny man. This story is just his energy and his character. Yeah, he's funny. Well, he's a classic New York funny Italian guy. Yeah, you know, really an amazing jujitsu guy. God damn, was he good when he was young? Really? Matt Sarah was a fucking man. He's a world championship caliber. Like is a lead as anybody? Did he do ghee to or just no key and no key every yeah, he's a fucking assassin like a super high level black belt It was good.

3:23:44I mean that's where aljo those guys train out of right? Mm -hmm. Yeah, though that whole hands -out Gracie lineage So one of the greatest lineage is in Giu -Jitsu Mm -hmm. I mean think about who came from there the John Donahair Gordon Ryan all those guys they all damn out of that One camp Gary tone in you know even Craig Jones Craig Yeah, it's like so many elite guys came out of that one came I wonder what Crone's gonna do I wonder if he's like fucking I'm not this done. That last fight was a bar. That was great. We were there live and it was just yeah, that Charles Jordan and I mean, that was not good.

3:24:13He had a good game plan, good fucking execution. I wonder if that Cron just so like stuck in his ways a little bit, because we were going to visit Montana and I hit him up to maybe get some training in with him for sugar and I didn't hit us back. They say he just stays in the mountains, just trains when he feels like it and it looked like that. I'd be crazy. Those guys are your family though. It's like how much pressure is on you to be great. But it's also in this world of today, just jujitsu is not enough. It might be enough, like if you catch Alex Cacera's like he did, you know, when you get his back.

3:24:46And I mean, if chrome gets on you, yeah, you're fucked. You're fucked. It's jujitsu at the highest level. But he's got to get on top. Yeah. Because he was on his bottom. I'm bottoming in his Charles. And he just, Charles did a good job keeping his hips squared. Charles is a real black belt as well. Yeah, so things like Charles is very high level on the ground and he's so skillful. He just subbed a Ricardo Lama Most didn't I didn't see that I heard that though That's fucking impressive. Yeah, he's legit. He's super Charles Jojen super legit super technical very well -rounded I think you do everything for 45 vision and this day and age two just like it's gonna be hard to just be Dangerous off your back and the guard everyone just so fucking good at Jiu -Jitsu now There's so many world champions you can find and feel them so to have a good guard I mean the scariest guy off his back today in the UFC is Paul Craig Yeah, Paul Craig catches people with triangles is like one second to go mega Manoff you got him like one second to go.

3:25:41Oh, yeah Charles Levy era too. He gets that over Yeah, fucking butchery. Oh, all the vera's nasty never That's very interesting October Abu Dhabi Charles is long to Paulo versus Hamza I wish I mean if it was here I'd go fucking Abu Dhabi as a flight That's a long ass flight, but I would love to see Charles fucking win. That would make for a huge trilogy It would be maybe call her be about now. There's no shot But it's also it's like you kind of see vulnerability in Islam after that fight with Volkanovsky first of all You see how good Volkanovsky is Fucking animal. Yeah, he's number one pounder.

3:26:20You have to say like they have it not listed as pound for pound because you lost that fight I think you make a real argument that he won that fight on top and the end of the fifth pounding on him It's hard not I think you won the fight in my mind he won the fight. I think he did more damage I think he imposed his skills said it's also insanely impressive that he goes up from 45 to fight a massive 55 Like I was as big at 55 as anybody is and you know at the end of the fight he's on top beating him up He drops them gets on top of him. I mean and had massive moments throughout the fight But it's sort of at least gives an air of vulnerability to Islam where before that Yeah, we're like this guys unstoppable.

3:26:58Oh fuck Charles got a scene some conference from that I get some but then again is a most I mean he didn't even just most people walk into it a Charles's full guard he forced the half guard right away pinch his knees forced the half guard like what a good ass idea but he also rocked him dropped and boom yeah that too yeah that too yeah there's a lot of factors but looking at Charles versus Benille Darius she's like he's such and he's such an interesting case right Because at one important time like the Cubs wants in fight a couple of his other fights people like well Trials just doesn't have it like whatever it is he just falls apart then he has a kid He has a dog.

3:27:36Yeah, man. I can I can see that and then well he went up to 55 to right that too That's gonna be yeah that too the 45 was real bad on it was real bad on was just rough But he's he did 55 before I think you did 55 the initial fights you have seen and But in against Afrin Esquedero, I think that was 55. But he was just too dehydrated and fucked up to fight at 45. And for whatever reason, just didn't have it together mentally. And then boom, all of a sudden he's the fucking man. Yeah, it's almost just so cool seeing those guys with a lot of losses become the fucking man. Yeah, I was fucking sweet.

3:28:15He came on the scene with those knockouts. It is kind of crazy when you see a guy who's like gone. Like to a point where you kind of starting to write them off and then all sudden becomes like there was a moment Where people like all of air might be the best pound for pound fighter on earth. Yeah after Gachi. Yeah Yeah, I mean that was incredible to do that to Gachi. Yeah Gachi versus long very interesting to though. Yeah, it is that's a fucking Gachi's a mom coming off that KO a lot Erwin that was fucking wild He's a monster on the feet and he's a serious wrestler. Yeah, you know There's a lot going on with that when he beat Fazeva like holy shit Yes, he beat him in at for the games.

3:28:51Yep. That was yep, right of his fuck. I wouldn't be surprised if gay T. Fucked up his own mean or knocked him out. I wouldn't be that surprised I'd be like you know what islam got very underrated striking that motherfucker is skilled on the feet He's a very technical throw. He's skilled everywhere. Yeah, he's he's underrated on the feet for my god His top pressure is next level. Yeah, his top pressure is just smushest people. Yeah, everyone says just freakishly strong Oh he's so big. I mean, what is he way before he cuts to 55? Got to be one 90s. Oh damn, you think? Yeah. I've never seen him in person.

3:29:26He's big dude. Big fucker. Big back, he's thick. I Colby called him out, right? Yeah. That's a sick fight. Colby. Yeah. Colby versus Leon will be sweet too, but Colby can make 55. He could for sure. Yeah, he's not a big 70 at all. Damn, that would be why. That would be crazy if he wins the bell that won 70 and he's the first guy to go, well, I guess Henry tried to go to TJ but go down the 55 and fight because it's all probably is bigger than Colby probably around the same size Yeah, that would be crazy. It would be crazy because he ever fought at 55 and UFC. No, no, he hasn't so that would be interesting Yeah, cut goes but you know you gotta get past Leon.

3:30:01That's no fucking So and after he beat Usman the second fight you realize his take on defense is impressing is is more impressive and and striking as good as anybody in the sport. That fucking head kick was so nasty. Pound for pound head shot dead. That was so cold. I was like, so cold. South Pawn, South Pa too. And cold, we seem to do good against South Pawns. He takes them down, fucking pretty easy. Yeah, punch, take down, punch. Yeah, think about Leon as you can't zig when you shoulda zagged. Yeah. He'll find your chin. Yeah, exactly. And it's striking. He's got that championship level confidence now.

3:30:36Winds the title by the most spectacular head shot. like one of the most spectacular headkicks in the sport. To win a title in a fight you're losing against Camaro Usman, who is the nightmare, right? And he's winning and you just, in the fifth round in Utah, elevation, fifth round. Walk off, so crazy. So crazy. And then he called it. John Annick was the greatest call in sports history. Yeah, that was a lot of. That is not the cloth from what she has cut. What? What? What? Yeah, point and then come on. You know, one thing I think come on, I'll fucked up was talking about how bad his knees are. I'm already said that on the pod, cause I never knew, but then he would, he brought it up when he was doing the pod with you.

3:31:19Saying he'd cast a walk backwards downstairs, he's to walk in the grass, sometimes saying, just talking about, I think if you're a fighter and you got some real injuries, keep that shit under wraps because if you're fighting someone and I know they're fucked up somewhere or something, Give you a little edge maybe maybe not but I feel like he fucking definitely gives you a target Yeah, you definitely know something's going on If you see him wince when something moves on these guys knees are fucked Yeah, and you definitely could kick the back of his legs and fuck jar all that shit It's already inflamed and sore.

3:31:51Yeah, but who knows my fucker was Ran the shit for a while around the show. You see Taran would at least say he'll come back only if you can fuck up Izzy I like that one, but I mean, if you just a fucking sniper, don't you think that that is probably like when guys are trying to find something a little bit? And then yeah, maybe they weren't allowed like some extra TRT, some sauce, and then they get on it and then they're like, fuck them back, baby. Yeah, probably, honestly. Yeah, who knows. I mean, he was always naturally genetically gifted. I mean, as a natural athlete, he looked fucking insane.

3:32:29Yeah, you know, when we knocked out Robbie Lawler. Oh my god. That was crazy. Yeah The Jay Heron fight might have been one of his most impressive It was like one of his first big chaos in the UFC You ever see that fight pull up Tyron Woodley Jay Heron He hit it with like this just leaping forward like blitz Tunch and cracked him and then put him away He was a monster man Tyron Woodley has some serious power Crazy I you can just see someone dominate and then it's next guy now. It's tomorrow dominating now. It's Leon champ I think it's Josh Koshchek. Oh, maybe that yeah, you know that he hit him while he's going down Maybe he's maybe knocked out Jay here on two he did yeah, let's see the Jay here on first fight first Yeah, Tyron was a monster It makes it's just even more impressive what Izzy was doing for as long as he was doing it and Alexander Volkanovsky fight defend fight defend fight fan by fan I haven't seen this so he look how jacked he is and this is like complete oh boom I mean look at this is a sprint boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom and this is tyron at his most vicious oh yeah it's most vicious in the beginning of the year fucking NFL running back no he was phenomenal he was phenomenal in his prime yeah that's crazy listen boys we just did like four hours.

3:33:53No way. Yeah, it's close to it. It's five o 'clock already. Jesus. Oh yeah. I went fast. I know. That was great. That's that smell and salt. Listen man, congratulations on everything. It's been amazing into having you guys on five years ago when you got it. I'm just applauding. I'm not fucking. Coming back on as the champ with one of the most amazing championship winning performances in the history of the sport. It's fucking awesome, man. I'm so happy for you. Yeah, thanks for having us on. Thanks for doing what you do because I fucking enjoy the podcast as just as a fan. It's fucking amazing so yeah thank you for having us back on my pleasure thank you guys thank you all right everybody