JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck

12 Sep 2024 · 3 h 14 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #163: Protect Ya Neck

Episode Overview In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas. The group dives deep into MMA topics, including discussions on fight strategies, notable fighters, and the philosophy of training. The episode covers a variety of subjects, from infamous fights to the intricacies of fight preparation.

Guests

  • John Rallo: Owner of Shogun Fights and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy.
  • Matt Serra: Host of "UFC Unfiltered" and owner of Serra BJJ.
  • Din Thomas: Host on "SiriusXM Fight Nation," "Josh Cohen & the Home Team" on ESPN West Palm, and "Fight Court."

Key Themes and Discussions

Smelling Salts and Pre-Fight Rituals

  • Smelling Salts: The group discusses the use of smelling salts as a prelude to heavy lifting or intense activities. They highlight how smelling salts can provide a jolt of energy or alertness, often used by powerlifters before a big lift.

Fight Strategies and Techniques

  • Fighting Styles and Adaptation: The conversation touches upon various fighting techniques and the importance of adapting styles, referencing fighters like Robbie Lawler and their unique approaches.
  • Elbows in MMA: The use of elbows in fights, such as Chris Weidman's elbow against Mark Munoz, is discussed as a pivotal and effective technique.

Specific Fighters and Fights

  • Robbie Lawler: Remembered for his brutal fights, notably his bout with Rory MacDonald.
  • Fedor Emelianenko and Ryan Bader: Reflecting on legendary fighters and the impact of age and legacy in MMA.
  • Khalil Rountree's Kick: Analyzed for its devastating impact, showcasing the controversial sidekick to the knee.

Weight Cutting and Health Concerns

  • Weight Cutting Issues: The panel debates the challenges and safety concerns surrounding weight cutting in MMA. They propose ideas like fighting at natural weights to ensure fighter safety and potentially improving performance.

Upcoming and Recent Fights

  • Marab Dvalishvili vs. Sean O'Malley: Discussed as a clash of styles, with Marab's relentless pressure facing Sean's striking ability.
  • Holloway vs. Topuria: Anticipation for the fight, focusing on Max Holloway's endurance and fighting style against Topuria's power.

Entertainment and Media

  • Movies and Series: The conversation shifts to discussing movies like "Blade" and "Aliens," praising their narrative and impact. They also reference TV series like "Game of Thrones" and the importance of engaging storytelling.

Philosophical and Cultural Insights

  • Fame and Persona in MMA: They explore how fighters like Alex Pereira maintain a strong presence and personality without resorting to trash talk.
  • Cultural Impact of Fighters: Discussing how certain fighters represent more than just athletic ability, embodying cultural and national significance.

Noteworthy Quotes

  • On Robbie Lawler: "Robbie Lawler's fights are what people remember about the brutality and beauty of MMA."
  • On Weight Classes: "Fight at your real weight, the ultimate weight cutting championship needs to end for the health of the fighters."

Conclusion This episode is a deep dive into the world of MMA, offering insights from seasoned fighters and coaches. It covers the technical aspects of fighting, the psychological and physical toll of the sport, and the cultural narratives surrounding it. The discussion is rich with anecdotes, expert opinions, and a passion for martial arts, making it a must-listen for MMA enthusiasts.

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1:28It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American Representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo trace distillery dot com that's Buffalo trace distillery dot com Distilled aged and bottled by Buffalo trace distillery 90 proof Franklin County Kentucky Buffalo trace American family -owned Independent and perfectly untamed The Joe Rogan experience Dramed by day Joe Rogan podcast by night Gentlemen, we still have a name for this what I the Cox Protecting neck I think protecting neck is best.

2:27That's the best one. Yeah, let's go. We're protecting that protecting that We're now for that we're carrying seam so Wu Tang Yeah, we already done for exactly. Yeah, there's two Wu Tang songs. I always listen to when I'm going to an arena when I'm doing a show It's protecting that could gravel pit those two Yeah, get you know gravel pit. Oh, there it is Does our theme song boys? I like it's all we got with it. We all getting kicked off a YouTube You're right there, Rolo We got pause real quick. See if Jamie could fix this. We'll pause can you hear now, Rolo? Yes, sir There we go. Yeah, you know what we never tried what the the smelling salts we got him right?

3:15Yeah, but we got a show we got to show Dean the sheeding. Oh, he's the fucking she's yeah, it's when when metal rings Three of us have rings on with the rubber Don't wear a ring on the mat Turn it on. Don't wear ring to the gym like you could drop a weight on rip your finger off like for real you wear these Great, right. He's a great. Just don't wear nothing that way you could cheat too I think the goofy is looking one is the tattooed ring. Yeah, yeah, yeah As the the bicep with the fucking chain with the you know I'm actually I'm actually wearing my model ring it says There you go good man This fucking door I Think he got me the ring yeah, you can use it like a slingshot.

4:33It's great. Yeah, I heard about a dude in God, I forget who's who's Jim One of the one of some big name dude and he took a photo of one of his students Is said don't ever come onto my mat with a ring on ever. Oh my god. This is what happens. He posted it I remember who posted it, but fuck man. It's like you can't it's just too dangerous I know they live a metal wedge on your finger right you've doing anything heavy if you're in the outdoors If you're climbing something it can just dig right into your meat and rip your fucking finger But when I was when I was when I was fighting when I was champ I had the I just got married I was telling you early and fun and when I had the ring on this before they had the rubber rings You know and guys get excited to see you so sometimes you give them the hand they they squeeze your fingers It's so it's the right and so excited to see my right It was that's why you wear a wedding ring on your left hand so you get you shake hands with your right Yeah, I mean, that's good.

5:38That's good. I totally make sense It does. Yeah, especially I hate those douche bags that always try to give you that fucking they have a nice squeeze Tips and I break that break your hand Don't don't like it's all my fucking nerves when you get to squeeze your fingers. It's a bitch move shake your hands It's a bitch move like I like a firm handshake like a man with a firm handshake I like a firm handshake, but I don't like that finger squeeze in bullshake. Oh, yeah You know I don't have a grip Would relax the hand You Give each other a nice firm hand. That's right for sure even that like when guys try to over like they got a real strong grip And they try to fucking give you that squeeze I just especially my right hand like I got a fucking bump here from Shoney caught his head And it's still like I stopped to double wrap it when I hit with long go after a while so when guys squeeze that shit I feel like I do I got me beat with the grip, but I'll fucking strangle the fuck at it You do that gripping thing?

6:44But it's like men feel so uncomfortable when they're around a guy like you they don't know how to behave I'm cool. Yeah I don't like a sneak. Do you want this press? Oh, do you want a cup? There's a cup because it's just a lot better I make a mess because like you know when they get around a guy like you they don't know what to do They got because guys like always like to pretend that they could beat another guy's ass Even they're just posturing it without fuck fuck up. They mean like you all something like Wait, that's what I'm trying to get over 200 just so I can posture on them back You know what I'm saying?

7:18Flex a little bit like if you're meeting Francis and Ghana how fucking terrifying I'm the first time I interviewed him. I'll stand next to him. I'm like what the fuck man that guy is so powerful he's fighting I got bigger than him He killed Ryan Bader and real quick right? He like Like Clean right hand. Yeah, let's watch that because this guy's good dude like this I've seen a fight I've seen the size after a bad You have to think you know he fights Anthony Joshua that was a bad KO from one of the best knockout artists in boxing right? How tall is this guy's big? He's a lot faster man, and he does a lot of wild shitty throws a lot of kicks and knees Dude, he's good.

8:20How much taller is he then a few inches? I think Francis is like Francis is like six or six or six Five something like that This guy's he's taller Francis is bigger though for sure, but this guy's fucking dangerous man And he's real long like watch this combination when he lands it on Bader see Bader can't close the distance here He's having a hot this guy's from the outside Sun look at that right hand. He waited for him Watch that again. That shit was perfect watch it again Look at the timing on this guy man watch this Bader's trying to close. He's trying to close Check out this do you watch this fade away a little to his left arm?

8:59Oh That guy's dangerous man. He's fucking dangerous his footwork was real real nice The bad is also 40 and you know 100 % 100 % But Bader and heavyweights been doing pretty. Yeah, yeah, especially in a them Bell to her testing But how many times if Bobby lash you could beat Disrespect to Bobby lash but still we know what's up. He was always on an Indian reservation No, no real body Bobby lashes are the only guy I've ever fought now and made it look like you'd enter a body building competition the day of the fight Mark He's primed He was What you like a D2 national champ or something like that is a way.

10:08Yeah, he was yeah, he was a really Legit fighter legit fighter, but they know why you test in positive or negative Yeah, because he wrestled it like 189 in college Also, he's 48 Whoa, you know this but look at no disrespect guy looks fucking great. It's amazing some guys are natural like Paul Costa He just got the gene son is it now is he natural? I mean Maybe what do you think?

10:39You'll be talking that much shit if you know, but no, I think everything he always looks the same He never test positive and the guy has crazy genetics like look how handsome he is Guys got freak genetics just in looks and also in his build. He's been tested a billion times Hey, you just work for American top team Know what the God Bro, he look great. Yeah, man. He's a hard working kid. He's young. I know he was on the show before he's young hard working and He's on his way up bro. He's got a double size back His back. He's got a turtle shell. Yes, like it's double and that's genetic like his father has that that's crazy His fight the other night with Gilbert Burns was fucking smart man, because he Because I even though he has really really good wrestling He knew not to shoot his watch trying to get him down because Gilbert's fucking I would I love about Gilbert and it happened in the Damien My fight is is if he's getting out wrestled the second hits his floor the floor right into jiu jitsu sweeps He's playing jiu jitsu.

12:06They go to play back. He's back to his feet. Yeah One of the very best ever on the ground Yeah, man, it's like we've just seen so many stand up wars It's so hard to get people to the ground right right right ultimately that that's where it becomes a problem right It's just so hard to get a world -class guy to the ground Well, I mean so when hombs out foot Gilbert hombs out was on top for a second right as soon as Gilbert started playing jiu jitsu I was like get me the Fuck But that's so smart about Brady though because he was he was Patient up against the cage and then he waited to the later rounds.

12:40He's the younger guy He's he's banking on his card. He'll Danny started committing to those doubles and now he's got a better chance of getting What time? If you look at him in comparison to like he doesn't have the same accolades as far as jiu jitsu competitions as Gilbert does But he's like world class He's straight up for sure for sure. He's really a Jones Yeah, there was a special rules thing There were no like that was it there were no like which is you know with Craig Jones me That's a great part of his game. Yeah, if you get a compete against that guy You gotta let him use the whole game.

13:12It's the whole game And you don't say you can't use your best stuff and they were Pretty stable but Brady can hang with anybody on the ground like he's so strong. He can hang with anybody I firmly believe that Craig Nelson Craig Jones rather if Craig Jones got him in any kind of a position like a heel hook He would never rip a shit apart right. Yeah, no doubt. There's no chance But I understand he's always I the fighters the cuz the current fighters I am like look what happened to cup swanson. I I'm all for these guys taking grappling matches But I'm also for them taking it with certain rules cuz that a fuck I was telling that to Khalil round tree cuz Khalil round tree before he got the title fight was in here He was telling me he was gonna take a grappling match.

13:54I go think about cup swanson He's a CL out he's gone for nine ten months And he's in the in the 30s He's really a spent the death sentence almost it can't me he came back you can come back But it's so unnecessary. I get you're a bad ass, but you're also a professional athlete. Yeah, can't be motorbike ride Well, soroni did it the lady like soroni wants me the biggest headache I don't remember to put out a too many fights no, I don't believe you ever did I don't I don't remember a single fight I mean there might have been one his whole career, but he had to have a broken fucking But he's still but he's still reckless his fuck Don't you drown John Key man, right?

14:39He's still out there doing it. He's still out there doing it Seems like people stick around too long in the game. Yeah, but that's also why he's so much fun to watch man Cuz he genuinely didn't give a fuck, you know in the early days of his career man He was very interesting because he's a wild kickboxer that had a great triangle. Yeah, yeah, he finished off a lot of his Judges right he was really was good off his back He was good off his back. Yeah, that's what would want to take him down and then he thought that triangle He's a fuck out of his face fight with Benson Henderson was one of the sickest fights ever He had Benson in a hundred different submissions and Benson got out all of them.

15:15It was a it was pretty sick Several triangles getting more of Benson doesn't get enough. Yeah, that was a great fight when they were in the WEC Damn dude, do you think about all the fucking wars a lot of people have forgot about? So many fights now right like when I was when we were fighting back in a day it was it was far and It was a bit cuz there was only a few a year exactly right people forgot about Jose all those beginnings When he was in the WEC was there anybody really better? He's complete fight. Yeah, he's for sure to WEC fight you can't look you can't keep that pace whatever that pace is when a guy is at the top of the food chain You can't keep that pace up for very long and he kept it for 10 years I always say you have to look at a guy By where he was when he was at its best like if we're gonna do this like who's the best guy?

16:06Everything that's why I always throw BJ pen in there me too cuz be too and you fought him Yeah, and his fucking prime was a demon and he ran through everybody But when he was in his prime it was like BJ and then everybody else. Yeah, for sure You just can't keep that up forever for sure if you look at Aldo like the Aldo that fought you Ryan I'm already did the Ryan's leg Jesus how tough is your raya? How many dudes would have he took it how many dudes would have just rolled over and out of in the other I think now they respected him and actually like backed off towards the end because Like I made to lost his leg.

16:42I mean he almost got compartment central. Yeah, he did right yet He had a good microbarric chamber every day to try to heal that fucking thing Yeah, man full disclosure like at the end of my career when I was fighting the 45 I was like I'll fight anybody But Aldo I ain't fight that guy get my leg. Yeah, I ain't fighting that guy That was that he wants to miss and from him later was the he you know the frequency of his leg kicks Yeah, I think it was just cause of injuries or he started boxing a lot like you know that yeah He's back now by way he is back his back. Yeah, I think your fucking shins just go man I mean think about it.

17:17That's what was going on with Amanda right? She was having nerve damage in her shins You just think about especially now with the calf kick How many guys that fought by Hayda are gonna be fucked up for the rest of their life? You know how many guys are gonna have like some weird thing with their foot? Like drag footer strength and from nerve damage my biggest fear was that shin break like what happened to Chris That even but even before it happened in the UFC. I seen it in kickboxing and I'm like Like you know, it's horrible like you got a really like you could trust your shins, but like Could you how do you know how to fuck you know?

17:50You know, I mean, I don't know It was always Something in the back of my head when I was throwing kicks and it's so spontaneous to even when I'm watching fights now Like when it happens I always like have this responsive be be ready to look away. Yeah, if a leg I don't want to see that nobody wants to see that. Yeah, you know, it's interesting the way Paheda does everything because he doesn't read I don't think he runs the risk as much of that Because first of all he kind of kicks around the outside of your leg always He never goes shindish in right and even when he kicks the thigh He's like kicking up.

18:23Yeah, it's like an upward even on the back. Yeah, for sure He always catches that back angle or until he wants to smoke you like you Yeah, he came across and just smoked him But it wasn't just about touch. He knew he already had him. He almost knocked him out the end of the first He knew he had him. Yeah, but it's just his the the power that he can generate from no hip at all He's a slapping yeah, he don't have a big he doesn't really have a tell it just Flicks it's crazy because it's the perfect combination of a guy who has this insane God -given power like he's got insane one touch of death power left hook and then the intelligence to not wind up It's kind of crazy.

19:05Yeah, he's just tapping you with it tapping you with it But the thugs are so bad and they're so it's such a clean shot. Yeah, it's a clean shot. I think This is gonna be a A wild take. I don't think it's gonna be a popular take. I think That parrera is gonna mix you in a take down I think what I think against Khalil I don't know maybe I read on it I Yes, he's I mean listen he's you don't get more confident on the feet than him, but He hangs out with our good friend the great glove at Xera Yeah, and you see him sparring you see him mixing that shit in is he doing it for shits and giggles? Is he doing it to work his cardio maybe or he could be dealing with Khalil around you and say you know what Let me show them I'm a wrinkle just uh Give him something to think about.

20:10Well, he's got to learn it right and he is learned and why not just do that too If he could just mix that in how many more strikes would he land too because then if there's a real threat Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah And by the way, how fucking strong is that guy on the ground properly? I know His hands are probably so big he just got he's got It's made out of wood On him to talk to him. He's made out of wood. What is it 85? Yeah, what does the comma mean when he says comma? Oh Shama means everything. It means like fight means like fuck yeah It's cool when someone says like they want to fight. He's like shama.

20:49You're like shama You don't hear that from that You'd rather hear him talk some shit than here. Yeah, he's got the scariest walk out of all time Is that a limp? And he yells in that article and waiting for him and you see that stop Think about but think about his come up man like he had he was able to come up this year without talking shit Yeah, at all Yeah, so like all these fighters think they got to talk shit to come up He did it by just stepping up to the plate and fighting and knocking off because he doesn't even smile Let's talk That Easter Island thing too. He'll wear the Seriously he thought him and jamaul were gonna be cool with each other and then jamaul started clowning up right and he got angry I was really angry.

21:42It was a mistake. You don't want that guy angry But jamaul like that fight like there was that weird moment where he kicked jamaul in the nuts You know or jamaul kicked him in the nuts, right? Yeah, and he he waved When he was waiting on raffle and he did a little stuff Yeah, yeah, yeah, right you got in the kitchen. Yeah, but jamaul I talked to jamaul about that like jamaul called all of us on the broadcast He was like, no, and he was like he stepped on and got the angle and I could move because her Dean was there He's definitely right, but we didn't see it right. I didn't I didn't see that all I was thinking is so there's so much happens Right a guy gets kicked in nuts.

22:20I'm like, oh shit. Are they gonna? Is he hurt first question? Is always is this gonna fuck the fight up like how long is this gonna be? Okay, he's got us take a break is it gonna be okay? Because I think like every time you get kicked in nuts one point Every time you get on one point because even if it's an accident if you get slammed in your nuts And then you have to go back to fighting You being affected. Yeah, no doubt two minutes ago. You couldn't even fight. Yeah, no doubt now Sunji's supposed to fight full clip against the guy who's trying to kill you who just cracked you in the nuts Who's that is that you Dean?

22:54Is that you man? I'm a professional who is it? I'm on airplane mode. Let me see. I think it's No, no, I've been listening to you motherfuckers telling me to get an iPhone and I don't know how to work it Button on the top it should shut it off Oh, you can do do not disturb you know how to do that. No, I don't know how to do it Look at your airplane open your phone up and then scroll down like scroll down from the top and then you can get to airplane No, I will rather just turn it off. I'm gonna get to do not disturb. I just turn it off I had on the floor Starball I turned it off. All right, so we're talking about Alex and Jamal But so I we didn't notice it.

23:44We didn't notice it because okay He gets kicked and that's like oh shit. They stop in the fight. What's going on? How so I didn't notice that little hop in here already did here? He got close Yeah, you see now he got the foot on the outside Yeah, it was brilliant on his part, but on a flip side her was an in Jamal's way He could definitely have moved it right but Jamal did relax look. He really He gave him the thumbs up are we cool and it looked like he was trying to touch gloves so they touch gloves But he's already way closer than he's ever been before yeah, yeah So most of the fight up until this point was fought with Jamal about a foot per past where they are right now He was in the outside and he was touching him from the outside and that was his game plan I talked to him on the phone about it.

24:26He was explaining to me his game plan everything was going great who Jamal? Yeah, yeah, he had a fucking Do you call you to yeah? Yeah He called the thing But he's right because we didn't notice it But this is this one of those moments where you're like I just hop in the fight. No, okay They're not stopping the fight like I didn't realize any made that right the little that little hop hop He does that little hop hop is legit dude It's it's just it's a such a good move watch it now watch so her moves to him. He's gonna stop the fight He puts his hand up watch this He touches him Nope, but look how close he is now See how close he is now yeah, yeah, he's a lot closer back it up back it up So back it up before the nut shot now look at the distance now see the distance big difference big Jamal does fire Or first though doesn't he watch he did after he gets kicked Yeah, probably let's see who throws the first punch Jamal throws it first though.

25:20I think does he let's say right He might be getting a corner look at Jamal ready Jamal throw No, they throw it the same. Yeah, but also look what also it's He's coming in but he also put his hand on the outside of Jamal's hand to clear the angle for him to throw the left Toco over top of it and dude his left hook that it's like a shumble hook Half an uppercut half a hook and it's just perfect perfect Alright, maybe he won't shoot on clown Dude he's fucking dangerous. Yeah, I know Cleo knocked down my boy Anthony Smith had him in slow motion. I was like Damn off speed uppercut. He's true. That was slipped dude.

26:01He's fucking terrifying Cleo Cleo around he came back from Thailand like a different fighter once I think once he went over there like in a Shraining full -time like there was I mean it was a big change in him I thought well Cleo's like had moments in his career. We hasn't been dialed in You know there was a few fights where he admittedly like wasn't all in and now he's all In like now he's like super focused like the Anthony Smith fight you like hold shit. Yeah, that's a dangerous contender The minute we're gonna find out but do you think you think the UFC would want Cleo to be champ? You know what I'm saying because like he just well He just don't really have like that champion shit thing about him We're like you go.

26:41Oh, that's my champ right there like he don't really have They may not but nobody does until they do or Olivera didn't have until he got it Right Olivera was a guy that everybody was beating man So many guys we For sure for sure Swanson knocked him out for sure a lot of guys have beat all of error because he was cutting too much fucking weight right And he just didn't have any energy Every time you see Clio round treat to interviews he crying and stuff like that like is that the type of guy like We really You know the sensitive guy you don't cry you know, I'm saying sometimes the whole You call there is nothing wrong with someone who's sensitive who could fuck you up No, I'm a center though I'm not saying there's something wrong with I'm just saying is that the guy that we want holding the money That's what we need in 2024 Oh, yeah, as you guys get older do you get more emotionally find yourself?

27:30I'm emotional. I'm an emotional guy. I don't see that We're not toxic. We just don't have a filter. Yes, this is just what actual men are like when there's no one around Where you're both yeah, your boys. Yeah, when there's no one around they can yell at you Yeah, if we have the same conversation with our wives you're like what the fuck are you saying?

28:02This is what people would be talking about if you were hanging out in your living room It's true for buddies hanging out you live in how would you talk? Yeah, for sure Watch in the chimp crazy What this is show oh my god is a HBO show. What's max now whatever it is? It's a docky series about people that own chimpanzees It's horrific man. Oh wait with it with it with it when the chimp's tear people apart They tear your face. Oh, no, they bite your eyes off. They bite your fingers off. Oh, pull your dick off Dude it was there's so many moments in that show where you just like what the fuck it's just it's so sad Is there anything happening or no?

28:53No, no, no, there's nothing happy in this show There's nothing happy in this show This show is all about what happens when people have pet chimps and the chimps get to be about five years old And they don't want to listen to you anymore because they're a two hundred pound fucking super predator for real They can do whatever they want like what they are There are closest relatives and they're really fucking smart and when they get to be like five years old You can't even put them in a combination lock they were telling me because they can help figure out the combination They'll watch you do it.

29:22Oh shit, and then they'll do it They'll see what you do to get out and then they'll Real play at an ape type shit. They're really smart man. They just can't talk They're not as smart as people but they also they're vindictive and Spice hole their angry and jealous fighters They do that a lot with the wild animals like the fucking people own hippos Like that thing about when they hit like five you just got to keep him in cages all the time So when their babies everybody is hanging around with them You can bring them to the pizza place. Oh my god. It's the lady with the chimpanzee But then they get to be five and then they rip someone's face off for no fucking reason at all What was the this episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years Made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be aged nearly twice as long as competitors in new charge White oak barrels and bottled at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way Anywhere and the taste it's damn good.

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31:44Don't look them in the eye no food can have any food anywhere near them So I'm a Gremlins with the phone man. They're just chimpanzees if they decide you have something you gotta see this if they decide that you have something They want they're ain't shit you can do about that like they were they were Shite you can do the territory. I mean you got to see the hierarchy within you know There are clins or whatever you want to call it. It's a bit us and the guy the guy on your show Yeah, yeah, the guy was the who produced it. That's how I heard it. The show's so good, dude It's this is much better than chimpanzees.

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32:14This is like the opposite of chimpanzee. Yeah, this is real shit Chimpanzees sad, but this is amazing. It's amazing Because they they these chimps are so accustomed to these scientists that they acted completely normal around them Like they were just a part of the of nature to them because their whole life they had that scientists around the cameras right it was just the thing in the forest It was just like that's a different kind of tree or something As long as you know that food if you long enough look them in the eye and don't get any closer than 20 yards Those are the rules so if the chimps start moving towards you you move away.

32:47Don't look them in the eye You look away don't have any fucking food if you got a candy bar. They'll rip your dick off for that candy bar They don't have any sense of what's appropriate. They don't you know, there's no remorse. They bite each other's hands off Oh my god, bro, they're ruthless and that's our closest relative. See you know what you do you just get a dog You don't get a Nobody needs that shit. I'll let you see in those movies though. Those are all young chimps You can't even train them when they get older. They're not listening to nothing. Oh Listen I gotta watch this you're gonna clean this with movie fucking any which way but lose I used to love the any which way you can They heard this still fighting and then you know the guys there are different.

33:43Oh, let's get on the plane And let's go see the fight. Oh, they're fighting fucking two hours The state and the who's that guy's name tank Murdoch You know, it's funny because back then you would never think that people were actually having bear knuckle fights for money And now it's on paper view Never gonna be bear knuckle boxing. I'll tell you man as a sport That's crazy. So this is some backyard shit that people would do like this is the this is the big killer This is the guy that's like the the big money champion He's gonna eventually fight him. He's watching Clint and he steps in to help him and he starts fucking some people up There's no one real fighting was back I had no idea somebody needs to redo well all those things he did would work I mean, it's not crazy.

34:42He's not doing any like jump split kicks I don't like these movies as a kid. Oh My movies were great. This movie was great. Clint East who was the fucking man. Oh, yeah He has the the best western movie of all time What's it? Don't forgive oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all that I do see man I'm a fan of tombstone with Val Kilmer too. That one scene that one scene made that whole movie I want to see him so intense one which one unforgiving or I'm your Huckleberry. Yeah, when he's looking Anytime you get Kurt and I and we did this in a Kurt text we talked we talked about Bone Tom oh, oh, yeah, now this is oh I find his movies that I never heard about it came out like 2015 I saw it on Netflix.

35:27I thought it was new and I didn't know so I started watching it Holy fuck what do you see the good one? Yeah, it's like a western horror Yeah, because these carnival Indians are almost like predators because they got these things Well, they're completely different like a different species of person. They have these things in their wind pipes Yeah, they're crazy. Yeah, Matthew Fox in this this guy is the guy from lost. Yeah, it's phenomenal Very good. This movie is now I get like obsessed with some movies. This is my latest obsession I fucking love this movie. I never said this. It's a great movie It's a fun horror movie and the fact that it didn't get the attention that deserves It's just I think there's too many movies out.

36:06I never heard of this true So much stuff. I love show gun. I haven't finished it There's certain things I take a while to get through I blew right through show gun But I just blew right through peaky blinders I The first season the first season slow as fuck once you get out of the first season Yeah, I love the first season man. Yeah, it gets hot Tom Hardy and peaky blinders I'm a motherfucker can act man any act He's like totally different level like even just everything about it you buy that eccentric psychopath you buy it You buy everything about like these guys. He's got rules Yeah, for sure.

36:58Yeah, but yeah, he was he was the man The man's yeah, I like I'll tell you what I tapped out on and you know me. I like superhero shit And I to show the boys I was in and there's some good stuff in that show you ever hear the boys. I've heard it It gets redundant. No, no, but no, this is what I know when I tap the scene where I fucking tapped out now You know like X -Men you ever hear of multiple man. He can make like a multiple of himself like other Clones himself. Yeah, all right now. I'm listening. I'm not a prude. Okay. I could deal with some sex scenes and some some freaky shit Not one, but I think is this there's a scene now they go now this I don't need to see a guy's face and another guy's asshole even if it's his own body So multiple man or this this little like like a version of him in his He's not going to a sauna right and I guess this happens sometimes and engage him There's a There's a close up of like a human centipede it's a human centipede is that an oh He's in the guy's asshole right now Wait a minute I know They're trying to normalize this exactly this is a bizarre This is an asshole.

38:21He's inside an asshole dude this guy So now this guy is he they they open up the thing and they see I hope it was worth it. So then he came full size It's like in full size and he blew the guy apart. Yeah, that's like Ant man inside someone's asshole Yeah, this is not necessary. Yeah, dude. That's what I'm saying. But picture that's kind of crazy Picture your human centipede. Let me see that again Because you really die. I want to see him explode. So what happens is he just decided to get bigger? I think he sneezes and he's always nice up his uh I guess his ability to control it. Oh my god Yeah, but the whole show is like that is so crazy There's some good stuff in the show.

39:01Yeah, it's gross the first few seasons was cool this pair of season They's got woke on on I'm trying to explain that to the cops And then multiple man He's got pink guy because he had his face in an asshole So now he's coming back But then 100 % someone's trying to normalize things like that That's probably like every bottom's dream. It's actually climb inside a guy's asshole. Oh There's one to be inside of you You know, just You know, I've been there but man, I know exactly the thing you're talking about Yeah, I know That's unnecessary. I would tap out after that. I tapped out on the walking dead when they killed Glenn with the baseball bat.

39:43Yeah Yeah, yeah me too me too. You know what's fucked up done. They actually did that in the comic book. Oh, I'm sure they To show it to me like that. Yeah, cuz we like we murder porn. That's murder porn. I loved Glenn I saw Glenn that the UFC and he looks sad He looks like that's your character your character for all these years everybody loves it and they kill them off with a baseball bat And you're like and then you know more no more show. Yeah, yeah, I would know with you the show's like Well, it's you can't keep doing that. Oh the people are the monsters. You can't keep doing that forever It gets boy figure it out find out who the cons are kill them.

40:22What's about a community show? Just to ship to you know like fucking cobra Kyle also how why they're still zombies they would they walk two miles an hour You haven't killed me. I know I wanted to figure out how to kill these things You need is that lady with the sword every day run out kill 30 of them Nobody's gonna be She haven't killed all those zombies for like five years That show Yeah, I think it was a spin off with Darrell Dixon. I didn't even watch there's a bunch of spin -offs There's the LA one too LA spin -off too. It was pretty good. It was fear the walking dead. Yeah. Oh, yeah I might even the best one really yeah, it was really good especially in the beginning It was really good because it's like no one knows what the fuck is going on But it gave you like a real sense of like dread and fear like these people are trapped in the middle of this outbreak And the military moves in and no one gives anybody any answers Which is really how it would go right yeah, so the LA one fear the walking dead.

41:22It's much more realistic This is how it would go like the guy waking up in the hospital in the walking dead the problem with that scene Is 28 days later that's how it starts same exact scene 28 days later Killian Murphy also from peaky blinders right he's in the hospital and he wakes up He doesn't know what the fuck happened because he had hit by a car or something like that right? That was a great movie by the way was he riding a bike at hit by a car I think so he wakes up He has no idea what the fuck's going on and then getting out of the hospital He realizes that the world is ended and there's a zombie apocalypse have broken out while he was in a coma So they just stole the whole thing Somebody's looking out first I don't know book with the fuck that's a very good question Very good question what year did the walking dead graphic novel come out?

42:11It's a real legit Thanks guys, you know those movies you can't find them on streaming You can't find 28 days later on streaming They're gonna never seen it. That's why I think you can find 28 weeks later But 28 days later. I don't think you can find I think you have to buy because I just bought it I ordered it on DVD. I don't bought a DVD and that fell you order you boy. How do you even have a DVD player? I do Stay asked me if I wanted one I'll take one of them and I haven't used it ever a bit in this house for four years I never use that fucking DVD player, but I'm gonna use it This you can get broken into especially they look really good like blue blue right like Resolution yeah, those DVDs look for it's probably as good or better than streaming.

42:59Hmm But I just don't know anybody with a DVD player that's like VHS. I don't have that. Oh, I had that for a long time Because I used to get all the pride videos I used to get like K1 VHS We're shipped from Japan. Yeah from a friend of mine. He would send it all in VHS When what year was the graphic knowledge I saw a reddit discussion that they both so that For the record on what to answer your question the walking dead Came out within the same year that the movie came out But someone noted that they both were taking from another movie that came out in the 60s. Oh, what was that movie the day of the trifits?

43:33Oh, they had a trifits Look it up on your ass. It's just is that a monster movie or something like that Oh look at this is a triffit what the fuck? What is it? And after being splashed with triffit poison from a stinger three his recovery is told of an unexpected green meteor shot what Yeah, that's that's some 1976 shit for the record. I guess 20 years later may have to or uh start walking dead may have taken from Mm -hmm. Interestingly. Yeah It's well 28 days later was a lot earlier, right? When we year to 28 days later come out Not just that they came out it says uh the comics came out less than a year after 28 days later was first in cinemas Yeah, so 28 days later was first This guy just got into game of thrones like 20 years later I just got into a game.

44:26I got the fucking things bit out look at I know I never had max I just got max just so I can watch that shit so and I'm I'm saving you out season two. Yeah, I I ain't gonna lie it is real good. Yeah, I like it so much. I told Dean. We have to the first season I didn't want to wait for the second season so I got the book and I ended up reading all five and that I don't think I'm gonna use my mom I like honest. I don't even know that good. Oh, oh, it's fucking great It's fucking I love it so much. I did it on my iPad and because of my ADD I made the the font real big so it's like two paragraphs.

44:57I'm like, yeah I'm going right Yeah I don't even know Matt Carid and shit Sorry, so wise 28 days later been removed from streaming says indeed Disney lost the rights of the independently financed original film with them now only Only the rights to searchlight finance sequel 28 weeks later. So well who the fuck owns it And they would they don't want to put it on Netflix why wouldn't they just one of the best zombie movies of all time it is great It's great because it's when they weren't slow they get The scariest could be one of those VPN things. It could be another country and maybe you sneak around and Maybe maybe that was a great movie.

45:44It's coming. They're coming out with 28 years later. Yeah, I'm for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah Is there anybody left? Yeah, I think that guy the piggy volume guys left the fuck kind of life is that What kind of life is it like if they if some fucking Wuhan China lab comes up with some zombie virus and Nothing that sounds crazy, but rabies is real Yeah, that's exactly what rabies is School Joe it is animals that are not that never want to bite people and turns them into an animal that needs to bite you They run at you. They're not scared of you rats will run at you Foxes they run at you when they have rabies Yeah rabies is just zombies.

46:27It is on me because it kills people before we figured out how to stop it Like and you have to get some crazy shots and yeah, they get those shots before you start having symptoms Like what they they have to find out you got bit and then give you those shots and it has to happen really quickly Because if you don't it kills most people Jesus What rabies kill something like 99 % of the people that get it what yeah, it's an old disease And so one of the things they figured out is that if they slow down Everything in your body and put you into medically induced coma It gives your body the resources to fight it off because your body can fight it off But it can't fight it off as quick as the virus move forward.

47:08It's a great. It's an old virus man It's an old it's a weird. Oh, that's crazy So like when you think about what that is it's a crazy old virus It spreads itself by making its host violent It is rage. It's it's that so so saying that no one would ever do this These fucking psychopath eggheads that they give these grants to that do this fucking this gain of function research On viruses making them more infectious to human beings Do you think they would stop at a corona virus? Why don't they fuck with rabies? You know why would they have rabies? Marab You know, I just say that about Liam Harrison And you know people are making a big thing about only he's got to get him down.

48:02He's got to get him down He didn't get hold listen. He gets him down. He's in trouble Sugar shawan, but look what he did do Jose, although he didn't get him down too much and look him up against the cage that all that height is the The difference in height the the reach That's at a disadvantage once he gets a hold of him So he could beat the shit out of him up against the cage. He doesn't get him down for around Now there's a little less it's a little less pop and shawan's in fucking his in his punches and strikes That that that length is gonna be a problem when he closes the distance Marab So I got an issue because you know Marab better than anybody here.

48:39I'm sure and From that like when I see him now like he's just a different animal They're like a complete different character. Has he always been like this type of character like what do you make in jokes and always been funny and when he first came This English wasn't great at all. I mean, isn't it's it's it's not what it is now Uh, he's always been a sweetheart. Just my sweetheart. Yeah, imagine having Matt and Ray Longo is your English teacher Funny And Ray I love you Reality show with you and Ray long -oh my god Corner and fighters and just train train fighters. You know big that show. You know it's funny I want to thank you by the way.

49:26I just did my own I'm doing them once a week I'm doing my own podcast Keaking out with Matt Sarah. Thank you. You know what I push me to do Listen, you are a natural thank you though. We have your natural for this. It's actually It's out today and the second episode I did I did won with my buddy Phoenix Connovale. She's great We talked about our best worst the best X -Men movies. This is right up my house. Are you doing this on YouTube too? Yes It's the Matt Sarah channel. Yeah, but on everything Spotify it is on Spotify. Yeah And uh the set I did two episodes one with Phoenix about the X -Men movies and the second one was myself and Ray Longo My studio is nine minutes from Longo's school and we did our top five gangster movies.

50:07Oh There's a movie that's a good episode. A movie that's on our list that I didn't know this fact until it came out because I don't know why and People didn't see this movie. Did you ever see state of grace? Yes, yeah, great. We haven't seen that phenomenal. Yeah, we talked about it. I was forgetting my wife to before he did the show Just the back in my head because I knew it was gonna be on the list and I wondered why so many people didn't see this movie So fucking the great Ray Longo bro, a great point It came out the opening weekend as good same as good fellas same opening weekend. Just got's why it was Fucking under the radar you never seen it.

50:40I never said I'm never even heard of it until you just said it right now I remember it was very good movie Very good real good. Yeah, so that's the second episode me a long go so that just maybe that's a good one That's a good one to remember I forgot about that state of grace is great another one on the list that a lot of people Some people seen this because piggy smolts wraps about him is the king of New York. Yeah great move You have to see the king of New York Which is a real king yeah, all right, but let me ask you this does heat count is that a mob? You know what I was thinking about putting in that but I think it's more ice it's a heist move, but it's organized crime It is The guy who got out of jail the the it's based on a real dude the guy who was the Deniro character who got out of jail has based on a real dude Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did a bunch of robberies and then he went to jail for a long -ass time and got out and did a bunch more robbery was Yeah, Bob dude.

51:30I don't he was organized crime for sure, but it's like who was he connected to was he connected to the mafia Was he independent organized crime, but he was like super sophisticated fantastic movie phenomenal, but does American gangster count Right And a title it says gangster Yeah I'm mention that was a great movie. Yeah, it's a fucking great. You know the fun also based on real dude. Yeah, the heat the movie The he a funny thing about um alpichino in that movie. He's over the top of it. You know she's got a great When I seen him he spoke about his role then he goes what they didn't Well, he goes what influenced him about playing that character is that he was the character was chippin off piece of cocaine Like he was like a co -cat and they kind of took that out of the movie, but that's how he was playing Like all cooked up so that kind of it kind of explains it like how he was so Out of the show it in the movie, but that was how it was written.

52:38He said it. It was yes that his he had He was like a chippin off piece of cocaine Did they just edit that out? I have no clue Or he definitely said it in an interview was it in the movie? I don't believe sir. I haven't do it in the movie Imagine you're doing that you're doing this all cooked up character and he's doing coke and then they cut out all the He said everybody like what the fuck throw away? You're playing a drunk It made perfect sense though once he said it. I go that he goes he goes that's why you know I chose some of the The choices I made for that character. Yeah, there was no math.

53:10What how much less crime would there be?

53:15Oh How many ridiculous crimes get cooked up while they're on meth literally or to get the meth Yeah, meth influence you remember that North Hollywood shootout. It was just like the movie heat Body armor they had like fucking big giant machine guns and shit They were literally just walking up the street blast and people Oh, they were Arroided out of their fucking minds these dudes are roided out of their minds doing coke and they robbed this bank in North Hollywood and the cops boxed him in They had a shootout on the street. Oh, yeah, I was I was on news radio at the time We stopped production of the show to watch it on television Really everybody was like what the fuck is going on?

54:00It was so crazy. I'm far from you. Was it real close? Real close like we we were in studio city North Hollywood's 15 minutes away 10 minutes away. Hmm real close She's in the footage. It's crazy. The news footage is the footage is crazy and here's it's crazy One of the cops shot one of the dudes and then did not call for ambulance did not and then people were criticizing him that he let the guy bleed out Oh damn yeah, I remember these fucking crazy liberals They were crazy Psychopathic murderer who just robbed a bank who was gunning down cops because he let him bleed out and didn't get him to an ambulance at times She Yo, yeah, I think we know that guy guilty Okay, this is CGI in 1996 saved the taxpayers Find that Jamie because it's crazy to watch man It was in the middle of the street dude and the middle yeah, yeah, yeah So these guys were having a shootout with guys walking on the street Just blasts like a movie.

55:01Yeah, like a fucking Cop stewed and this is just one part of it sometimes he was ducking behind cars with giant rifles and shit I mean they were just armed to the tits. They got a man. This is him at the end So I think at the end he's probably trying to die. It's a pretty long scene too like to what the real when a real shit went down I forgot I would have oh got him with another shot. It keeps going because any other guy comes So he's trying to die. He's probably already been shot. This guy's doing a little GTA action now This we went on for a long time too and this was back when if something happened They would we interrupt general hospital to show you Holy was shoot out bro.

55:43This isn't the caveman days. I live in the caveman days. Yeah, what year was it? This is like 90s 97 yeah really oh, I thought I don't even remember this yeah I remember a big time. Yeah, I do too because it was great because I have a friend my friend Justin He's always said he goes dude. Let me tell you something six armed dudes that know what the fuck they're doing could take over a whole city I was like really hey goes. We're cities are so vulnerable. We're so vulnerable Why six dudes you know six six operators really know what they're doing could take over a whole city guys He's like used to work for black water.

56:17Yeah come over. Yeah. Yeah He's like you should fucking surprised So when you see something like this happen. It's like how do they keep these fucking crazy people from We know we need to do a better job of finding out where the math is going. I know You know you're gonna trace illegal aliens but find out who's bringing in the math Who's bringing where's that fucking math coming in? I know did it just make it right they just make it right they can make it like you need precursors They try to lock down most of the drugs for it now like the pseudophad and shut I mean you gotta get a license to get that strike down that's why these The people that are making that they're not using that they're getting real chemicals They're getting the real precursors, but you have to get them from like China So they're getting them from China cooking it up in Mexico bringing it across the border We Yeah, these are the truck stop we're having all I Break it's breaking bad break Walter White doing that she's great another great TV show I've talked about a thousand times with it.

57:17There's a book that we just read It's called blitzed this dude Norman or her It's all about the Nazis. They gave them Nazis math. Oh, yeah, does that scene of uh hit love fucking watching no fucking games? You have an apparent that what they did was they would give them a mess so they could go three days through Poland So they could just storm through Poland and so when they did this no one thought they could get across the whole country in three days And you really couldn't unless you didn't sleep so all they did it gave these guys math and they gave different Math to different doses to different jobs So like if you were in the tanks they gave you the most math you're at the front of the line Yellen and German and just You see that take fucking move.

58:04I was just watching it last night. You said that a Brad Pitt Oh That's fucking pretty bad It goes a badass John Berne throw that's a bad guy. Yeah, he's a great dude. Too man. Yeah, very interesting guy the punisher Yeah, he's very smart. Yeah, yeah, I'm on the podcast. I'm like he's a genuine thinker, you know, I really think So sometimes you talk to actors and they're like pretending to be a guy that you would want to talk to yeah That's what it feels like when you talk to them like they're not really there But John's like right there. He's also phenomenal on a movie that a lot of people didn't see called shot caller Oh It basically Jamie Lannister I just know him as Jamie Lannister He's he's like a yuppie guy.

58:53He's going out to eat with another couple He goes through a red light. He gets to a car accident next thing you know. He's facing Prison time and he's like not a guy made for prison real bad old Tom Hack not Tom Hacks time -cellic movie innocent man So I'm kind of like that But he really did the accident next you know, we get to the prison He doesn't want to be no bitch and it goes from there and he becomes a hardcore fucking guy They call him money and that's how he ends up, but he didn't start off like that. Jesus. Oh, man. Is it a you know, isn't it keeps your Dean really yeah, keep your own teams of cellmate in there.

59:25He's great. Oh, he's a must book for any prison movie. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah, I believe he was great. Don't laugh John Raleigh you you next yeah, you know, like you being present All you could be in that movie. Yeah, you probably that fucking Aryan I remember and teach our dean beat Chuck Lidell. I was like Yeah, that was yeah, that was a yeah That's a big win and then he suffered some of the same losses Well, the like Houston, I'll exact Houston, I'll examine one was craze. Yeah, I'm like smoked Sorry He did him. He just had a bare knuckle boxing fight recently really Houston Alexander Is there a bare knuckle bound bear is in his 50s is either bare knuckle boxing or maybe like celebrity boxing or forget some kind of boxing thing He just did but Houston Alexander and his prime was terrifying.

1:00:19Yeah, he was terrifying. Yeah, he had hands on him Yeah, like if he like if he did bare knuckle when he was younger He would have been perfect for it. Oh, he's built for it. Yeah, he was good The ball was own success. Yeah, that's what happened. I can't look at that. May 19, 2023 bare knuckle He won. He's man look at him results. Be Jerry. Be Joey Belch are in to Joey Belchron. Good fight. Yeah Jeremy Smith damn look at he's still out there fighting But he always was in phenomenal shape. Yeah, like that dude was jacked With that Keith Chardine fight. Jardine had him hurt and so Jardine got a little Oversellis and and game after him and Houston Alexander caught him That was a shocker Keith Chardine was a name.

1:01:04Yeah, and this just upstart this guy coming out of nowhere I think he was a radio DJ. Yeah, I think he really uh Was Sikara after that the Italian Well, that's a car. Yeah, and then it'd be crazy too with Kimbo too. Yeah, Kimbo But I think he was a radio DJ at the time Because you imagine like being a radio DJ You suck It was a radio DJ why he's fucking people up Kind of crazy It's like you in the barbershop Dean Tom. That's right. They played about that fade. No, he knows what playing about my fade You did a nice. Yeah, yeah, he's playing it up on every week when I still had hair Yep, that's how we became friends Because they brought it on the ultimate fighter for they brought in some chick because they know we you know When I see you know are the aunt's a girlfriend or anything we have no women We got no porn we're not jerking off in the same rooms So fucking they bring in some girl to do our hair code But uh, so they brought in some stylists then she's not giving me a fade So I might get the fuck out of Dean's like I got you.

1:02:11I said I got you make you get you Know to look good is the feel good you probably the reason why I won that show Yeah, you could never repay me for the past What season are they on now 32 that's crazy. You know what sad man the other day I just did a um a camera crew from uh Toronto came down. They do nothing called dark side of the cage and they want to interview me about war machine And they came out and I did a thing for that for and I uh, it's just depressed me It just it was just it just brought me down because that was a kid. Did you know him had them on the podcast when he was that's right when When he was on the show There's some guys that are just evil and there's other guys that I think that if they had the right people around them They could have made different choices and that's he was like a goofy He had issues.

1:03:02He was emotional. He always felt like the The stack was against cards was stacked against the type of thing but but I But he was still there was something like a bull about him on the show when he was on season six of the ultimate fighter He was like like a prankster. He did it up a decor and fucking the guys toilet. He was like a silly guy But I felt that if there was somebody if he had the right people around him I think he could have made obviously a lot better choices But think about that like but that goes for all of us right because we all kind of came from the same shit from back in the day Right and then me and Matt you we still in the game.

1:03:34Yeah, but then look at guys like him and Phil Barone That's a guy who's You can have too much you know, you can have too much bravado You can have too much crazy and then it'll ruin your life Yeah, and there's like every fighter has a certain amount of crazy and some guys keep their crazy charm Yeah, keep it locked up in the fucking behind that mask But some guys they just they're crazy burns them down it burns down everything around them And then you know, you got the CTE and CTE comes into play There's a lot of guys are just get real impulsive they become addicts They fuck up all relationships.

1:04:11They can't keep their shit together They're either crying or they're they're angry and some guys that are just bad eggs There are guys that are bad eggs, but there are guys for sure that are bad eggs that then get CTE Oh, I know this probably Both yeah, but like War machine the one guy to show up at his trial that be there for him And again, you show me your friends you show me who you are and it was Phil Barone Now Phil Barone is not a good guy. I know the guys from Long Island Million stories about him and isn't he in jail right now? Well, that's what I'm saying not only did he Beat it for War machine he outdid him you know, she put his girl in the hospital beat the shit out of her And now you know, Brody's in jail for you know allegedly You know murder.

1:04:54Yeah murder in in in Mexico. Yeah, sort of part of our art. I think you know, it was like Bad one too Beating to death. Oh, yeah, and now that guy. I mean listen allegedly allegedly, yeah, but uh it's brutal man. So I you know these guys come in you know again, but the back to War machine I don't know it's it makes me more like Phil I always knew was a piece of shit, but War machine I felt could have been helped. I really do. I mean it's it's it's it's what it's done is done But I don't know it depresses me because I thought there was some help there was some Oh you had him on the show then you think it was something to buy I never would have imagined that he would have done that right But I would imagine that he would lose this cool if anybody like challenged him a male A male.

1:05:40I just never thought that he would do that to a girl. I mean to a girl. I did that too I mean I was shot the whole thing. It's just Just awful every part about his awful press the hell out of me and how many guys That are doing this like if also experience that in their life like seeing their mother been beaten been beaten by their father grew up in an abusive household where everybody hits everybody There's a lot of kids Unfortunately in this world that grow up with parents beating the shit out of them and beating the shit out of each other Yeah, and you know if you ever talked to Joe Piper man Joe Piper.

1:06:14Oh my god Fucking assassin. Yeah, right because that dude's angry And he's angry all the time and he hits like a fucking neutron bomb. He's terrified I was working with him last week when I was with Brady them and we were doing elbows and my wrist really the same right now Rowan he banged out Barrio. I was in Jesus Christ. I mean with more seasoning Jack Delab I mean Jack um Her answer. Yeah, Jack or Manson thought a beautiful. Yeah, he just he I was smarter them out smart them out Yeah more time in the game and Jack stand up has gotten a lot better over the years He used to be just a wicked grappler, but he can I mean he held his own on the feet and won the fight mostly with striking right yeah For sure, I mean and pace and just not knowing not to empty the gas tank But Piper is so scary that he but everybody he gets everybody out of there so quick.

1:07:10Yeah Piper is going to be up there with the best open. Oh man. I promise you that I believe you 100 % he's terrifying and Like a dude like that he needs a fight like that just a kind of like put it put it in check He said all right. I got a lot more to learn. Yeah, there's you gotta learn the gas tank. Yeah, how many guys don't learn the gas Right, you know, that's what's great about Brady the other day. Yeah, he knew when to have a piece of foot on the gas I was more impressive the stand up. Thank you I'll get it earlier as always grab Yeah, I'm thinking this guy I'll text that right after a very good that was what I complimented more Marquez we putting it together.

1:07:47He put in work with them guys. You know, you can tell he's a good student two men because every fight You see him and I think in the Balamahamat fight early in the fight. He was given Balal some trouble Yeah, but Balal just put it I don't know Balal gets nearly the respect No, but I The way he put it on Leon I was how the fuck do you not give that guy all the props? Duty handle all the flowers He handled Sean he's standing up. He stopped Sean standing up. Yeah, you know, and then you when you see what he did the Leon You're like good lord, right? It just overwhelmed him overwhelming pressure. Yeah on the feet on the feet Yeah, and the feet real fucking dangerous never lets you get set had Leon had Leon making excuses about the time change put it that way Yeah, man.

1:08:33It's a it's a different kind of fun Leon never never found his timing ever Yeah, and bro that guy going to daggistan was like the ultimate move Yeah, you get involved with KB especially with his kind of style and his work ethic. Yeah, like that dude has a work ethic Made his his top control, you know look deaf deaf with a cutter I also think it's good that he didn't get the props because it keeps him hungry keeps you fucking 100 percent I'll show you bitches. He's still like he's still yo, he's still like that too many still he's still hungry He's still down the earth like he ain't get all you know high class.

1:09:08No, no, well, he's just begun right yeah, this is a championship run He proved everybody wrong. He won the title. It's tell everybody to fuck you. You know, he doesn't even swear He says fudge. He'll say like you. Yeah, what's wrong with you? He's crazy But like that guy's just beginning his run, you know, so who know but that division? Who do you think they give him next? I think they give him tomorrow That's what I thought I thought smart fight and I think they owe but they owe Camaro for Camaro taking Homs on on 10 days notice right and also in a three -rounder instead of a five when he won the third right exactly So he's got the L which is if he's going five rounds.

1:09:46Maybe he doesn't get it. Yeah, I think he's right I think he doesn't get that it looked to me like he was coming on in the third He had a figure him out and also he had to trust his gas tank guy trained 10 days one of the scariest mother fuckers on earth On earth I say you got to give it to Camaro because I think Camaro earned it He had the weather that fucking storm of a first round I know you're getting off a couch even if you're in great shape You have to weather something like that that could get your endurance there done already and he didn't he had to know like what how How much do I have like how do I manage this but he did manage it?

1:10:18He didn't get stopped. He didn't get finished and then he comes on and wins the third round You gotta go come on man You don't have any more years of Camaro. He's like 37 and he doesn't have time to go on another run How old is Camaro 37 he's got to be 37 how old Camaro? I see you giving I say give me shot Shotcott you know he got time not only that every win he gets he's a legend Yeah bigger and bigger legend. Yeah bigger and bigger legend 37 see give it to him give it to Camaro And you get them bad ass knees too man. We can't yeah Exactly I send him every time I find something on stem cells I send you yeah because they're regenerating cartilage now No, I'm still on the field my shoulders man.

1:10:59You should you should do it. How long are you in town for? Tomorrow what time tomorrow do you leave in the evening in the morning? What time in the morning? I think like seven or something oh Real early. We'll get you in at 5 .30 stem cells. I might be able to get you in this afternoon. Yeah. Yeah Let me see when we get out of Columbia for it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ways to well can do stuff here They do different things in Columbia in Columbia What they could do is they can multiply the stem cells so they can take stem cells they do that in siege The CPI down to you want it.

1:11:32That's the place that's and they have a whole arrangement with the UFC They're they're a partnership with the UFC CPI is incredible. They're in Tijuana damn Yeah, my buddy has a spot at home called life med They have a deal with the UFC as well patrol skis there like a bunch of these guys doing that stuff stem cells are absolutely legit Yeah, cuz I mean listen I got a new knee and it's holding up great But I hear stuff with the shoulders your fuck you can't get soldier surgeries and shit It's gonna take some time. It's a complicated joint. But do you do anything to strengthen your shoulders? Do you do any workouts?

1:12:06I mean now I mean I do my pushups and I hang from my bar Any such as shit out anybody that I shoulder problems. I have no affiliation with these people get yourself cross over symmetry bands Get yourself these bands. They're they're they start with like five pounds or something like that I use a 25 pound one. It's not a lot of force and I do up series of exercises just to stabilize my shoulders a whole Series of different things that I do every week no matter what I do this is like that thing with the coils back in the day It is but it's just it's like a bungee cord It's like a cord like a you know rubber strap that you're pulling on there's physical Different ones two different ones have different weights to them so you can start off low But the whole idea is there's a whole chart that comes with it and shows you all the different thing And it just strengthens all the shit that you don't strengthen when you're just lifting weights Okay, if you're just lifting weights are especially you just rolling how often are you really using those shoulder muscles?

1:13:04You're using everything right? So are your shoulder muscles getting a good workout or is your cardio vascular system? And your legs and your biceps and your back that can be a good workout But you're gonna miss some muscle groups. Yeah, you just who misses muscle groups Mm -hmm, and the only way to like really strengthen joints I think is exercise and I think you got to do weights and bands and a bunch of shit just to protect your joints That's like that knees over toes guys. Yeah, we're talking about two helps to really stabilize the you know the connective the ligaments Yeah, all the stabilizers up and that's the that's the thing everybody neglects because if you go too heavy Your belt takes over and your rotator costs not getting it.

1:13:41So exactly, you know, this kind of this kind of stuff is Definitely should be used that knees over toes guy got a hold shoulder bullet proofing program too Like dumbbells. Were you doing a bunch of these? Yeah, I love his knees. Yeah, I gotta do that because holding pads for people Oh, it's just shoulders up. Yeah, and then for you that's it's all I'm like, no, Lee isn't it crazy how some dudes just have crack just have some extra crack I'm telling you Joe Piper. Oh extra crack. Yeah, for sure. Extra crack for sure I wouldn't want to hold pads for that dude. You're gonna get carpal tunnel syndrome.

1:14:14Yeah Then that's what happened to me all in one week That's where you had extra crack you had extra crack Crack That's how you would catch people you would catch people and you would see this like oh no look on their face Like when you caught GSP. I remember thinking like this Because we already knew by then that you could knock people out with one shot Which was so odd for a jujitsu guy So like everybody had to worry about your ground game But they always have to worry about being in the pocket because one of those hammers drops in there You got a real problem on your hands. I ain't gonna lie when I fought man I was like ain't letting him hit me with that right hand I'll he'll take me down before that little fire thing But you you didn't have a background in striking as a child, right?

1:14:58No, I My father's the whole pants for me. I had a wooden dummy in my garage I used to do all my junk Now if you're doing wing shung As a something to add on. That's fun But the trapping range to crapplings right there anytime I got into a real fight I thought what a chain punch and I do my tat double leg so I think there's something to it for transitions I think there's something to having all those moves here. Think about how many times you see boxers Literally swat a guy's hand down to land a punch Oh the pucks that's a punch come on oosmin Or hey mafina Yes, yes, but by itself. It's shit. Of course, but Tyke when dope by itself is shit too Everything by itself is shit exactly all those things by them But I think I knew a dude was really good at wing chung and he was explaining some things to me And what some of the things that he was showing me that's there's certain Voner abilities if you're inside with someone where they can really easily manipulate your arms back and forth and move your guard around and drop elbows on you like wing wing chung and then moitai you see some of the moitai stuff for guys grab risk and come over yeah There's a lot that's a lot of wing chung the difference is it when you look at two moitai guys get to a street fight It'll probably look something like you're watching them in a moitai fight You put two kung fu masters in every channel It is the worst Because it's all like a hitman movie And then they fucking all the floor Drop a drink So I've seen a few of those But I feel the western boxing like long ago got me Obviously got them you know I had to learn on the job, you know because it's different back in the day because Everything started moving when you see came at her but it's like oh fuck all the striking So I was like I in my mentality.

1:16:49I'm like all right I gotta just close the distance you can't trade and then I had to relearn like no no no Sometimes you gotta be in the fire and you have to learn those mechanics and and whatnot Well, that's the difference between guys who are pretty good and guys we can champions Is like this ability to absorb other skills and then implement them at a world -class level while you're an adult Yeah, it's crazy. It's not easy to do it's great It's very hard to do and most guys they like are always gonna be a step behind the guys who started out as a child Oh, 100 % natural more natural to them right I'm gonna crack speaking to crack mark Nellie grady says that you have the hardest kick that he's ever held for And that's something I think pretty hard yeah, they're not not not a lot of people might give you credit that he said Joe give me line if you can I like mark Nellie grady on season four we didn't have set coaches.

1:17:48He was like an assistant coach And he he gave above and beyond for everybody. Yeah, no, she's out on the right He's a great dude and a great coach, too. I love training with him. Yeah, he shows He showed me all kinds of things that tighten up my technique all kinds of things all kinds of things like just in transitions Like transitional techniques like different things to do off of different kicks And shit. He's still teaching and has a score right. Yeah, he's still has a school sit. Yeah, what is it called? Ciget homes. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, but yeah, but I do I try to hurt him. You try to hurt him Oh, yeah You know he was letting us hit the pads take him down hit on the floor like he be earned his My ears is cash on fucking ultimate fight.

1:18:29Yeah, he's a man. He's a man. He's a great coach and you know speaks tie Fluent does he really I didn't know that fluently speaks ties. Wow. Yeah, he can go to Thailand and just talk to people no kid Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gone. We've got a tie restaurants and he's just orders what's what's the boss accent? Yeah, he does What a bottom line? Oh, yeah, you can just mount that a gravity Yeah, he does he speaks tie. He fought in Thailand a bunch. Yeah, I knew that He's interesting dude very interesting dude Hey, uh, are we breaking out the smelling salts? Are you scared? I am scared wait So what are they this is the strongest?

1:19:04I know what I mean, maybe there's some stronger ship luck title I'm not aware of but this is uh, jujube mufu should give us like a discount code Um, who's called ah this dude jujube mufu. Do you know who he is? I've never heard of him Power lifter athlete super athletic athletic but built like Bobby lash Full splits over tables like doing like 500 pound overhead squash. Yeah, bro. He's crazy flexible and he weighs a thong He's a nut. He's a nut. He's like always doing nutty shit for the internet So to smell it's all to get me looking like that. No, no, no, I think you need some other things The smelling salts before you lift that way To smell this stuff.

1:19:45It's smelling sauce before you go across the border with 15 pounds of steroids So You have to use the bathroom. No, no, no, no, no, so again, this is a fresh one the fresh ones of the strongest Is so strong that I'm gonna open it. It's a sealed bottle. There's the bottle sealed and the bag is sealed to goddamn my hands are sweaty This they're all white that thing ready smell just smell it. It stinks already I haven't even opened the bag yet the bag is still sealed guys are gonna find out the bag is still sealed so I'm gonna open this just Okay, smell that so smell that just get a whiff and it's sealed inside the bag.

1:20:23I got it sealed You got right right, but it's good on even ready yet. You don't even know what's happening. Yeah, this is ammonia Yeah, that's this is where it goes on Let's go Oh, we're going this time kind of clop. Take a big big deep deep deep deep Deep breaths, but a few inches from the nose and just go for it Oh That's a little Vicks vapor up Oh my god, Rallo probably did it this morning before he woke up. Yo man. It's been many many years Wow You're that of cure snoring for sure I said three Yeah, I'm sweat There what movie is this from just played With the opening scene of any superhero movie of all time Did you see that pool Wolverine no, but I give it back with this it cannot fuck with the opening scene and blade When they all turned to vampires and he thought he was gonna fuck Tracy lords Oh, yeah, so he's down there hanging out with Tracy lords and he doesn't know she's a vampire and she leads him down in this basement Where he sees bodies hanging from meat hooks?

1:21:52He doesn't he's like what the fuck is this place? And then the sprinklers start spraying blood and everybody turns into a vampire around him And he's freaking out and he's trying to get out of there and she's like hey, baby Ah Great movie. He gets his ass kicked and they're all beating them up and they're about to kill him And Wesley snipe shows up So as Wesley snipes back as blade they're gonna have a back as blade right? You haven't seen Wolverine Yeah, god, should we say they should have brought him back as blade right when he got a prison What you ain't like you didn't like sticky fingers here it is here it is.

1:22:26This is a scene like oh shit's the day walker They're like oh no come on bro. It's a great scene Marshall arts slash superhero movie ever then he fucks everybody up of course That was great So what does what do people do to smelling salts? They do it before they lift yeah power lifters. They don't know how to take a big lift a lot of time Just like one before we have a shit in our gym bags and they bring it with them and they're ready to go for something crazy They want to do some big deadlift It's got to go for your scientists. Yeah, I don't know the saying it. I think it's good for America I think it's good for everything we haven't met the studio or at the comedy club Dude's take smells for the go on stage really take a hit.

1:23:17Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, sit around the room And let me try let me try Before I tack my wife I might bring that over me They make those stuff we have with the the comedy club those not this strong. This is the strongest one This one fucks you up the other ones you can kind of get in there a little bit. Yeah Yeah, you get too close with that one and it'll burn the inside of your head I like it. I thought that I felt like I felt that in my brain. You want to get ready to go around too? I went around to feel like you don't have around three that's what happens with everybody everybody like they get it and they're like My house terrible.

1:23:57That was terrible. Let me do it again You do three's with the oceans. Yeah, I do three's you know why make me feel like a crack head I do this. He got me into the six. Yeah, I backed off Because I was realizing I think I like these things too much So it gets the body to hit a little adrenaline. Oh really that does yeah, we're talking about the nicotine's doesn't oh no, no I like the nicotine so I like them when I'm having a conversation. What'd you do to me now? They're good. I don't think it's bad I just think you got to be careful like I like to take days off see if it's freaking me out So far no problems.

1:24:32I'm having fun. It's the trifecta now. I told you all whatever you are doing Yeah, I'm good This is dying out. Yeah, if you keep the lid off like it's dying out of it in between uses keep it But I think it's you know, it's probably Jesus, how can this make sure I watch it? Dean you know, I'm just gonna say I'm not the cry About to pull the collie around To kick me no Colleo I'm sorry. I just want to tell you. I'm sorry, but that is gonna be a wild fight I'll tell you what shit. Yeah, it's gonna be a wild fight. It's gonna be a fan friendly for sure. Yeah, collie is probably Never shot a takedown his entire career I think little win too.

1:25:16No, he's never shot a takedown in the UFC breath collie hits anybody He can knock you out Alex gets hit you know, I mean it's a fact well He puts himself he's got that crazy style man that style that snake like style the dias and the hands kind of hold Yeah, it's hold his hands right here and just like pop up You've seen him spawn right you've seen some of those videos in his farm like really good boxers man Yeah, we're gonna be staying the pocket with him too and that style is hard to handle because it's so weird They're used to everything like that one boxer that he was Training with is like I don't know if he's professional.

1:25:47He's but he's a big heavyweight very skillful But everything was like real traditional, right? I mean you see Pereira's moving at you like a cobra Like it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's doing and you're lucky. He's not kicking you You know, he's just punching this dude But hey good like you said collie if he lands he lands everybody goes night for sure Everybody goes night night. That guy's fast as fuck. I know and he fights angry How old is Pereira they're both about the same age. I believe 34 maybe how old is collie? I think Pereira's 35 and I think Khalil is probably in that same range Alex 37 how old is collie Wow Yeah, so I did I had no idea because I don't oh 37 but that's like 34 and fighting well Yeah, 37 Amazon warrior years You know, it's like yellow.

1:26:41I don't have a lot of damage. I'm 36. Oh my 34 speaking of super hero. Yeah, he doesn't well. He has some damage though some kickboxing fights He you know he got stopped and you know the one with The bad one with Izzy that was a bad one. That was a bad KO and that's a wait drained KO You know, yeah definitely KO at 85 and it just Izzy caught him with that perfect right hand like it's too because when guys guys They fight like like Roy Jones Amazing, but an amazing athlete he was so much faster than everybody fought with he could keep his hands down Still never get hit but When he started to slow down right everybody knocked him out.

1:27:22So I'm I think I'm how old Pereira was because I'm like Maybe when he slows a bit And the hands are down Starts to get push I think this is my opinion with were with Roy what happened was he went up and he fought John Ruiz And then he went down and he fought I don't think he was not the same I think And I don't know But I would imagine if you want to get really big. What do you do? There's not a lot of ways to get really big How do you want it? How do you go for 168 to 200 pounds? How do you do that? Well you lift some weights Get a little help you guys have friends So then you have to get off of that and then you have to drop 25 pounds from your body Your body is fully acclimated to this new frame That's a hard cut and he looks if you look at the way he looked pre -target fight Like you if you go back and watch him fight like James Tony when he was in his prime You watch him fight like some some of the better fights of his career The Vinnie Pazians fight where he didn't get hit with one punch He was so nasty but he was also shredded.

1:28:25Yeah, he was shredded and he looked like hard like He had the most like define by said My dog is twice as big as right so but when you see him after the tariff fight he was way more smooth I think that cut was hard man I think that cut was hard and then he probably got off whatever he gone on Sure, then your system's not working right and if you don't have a good doctor and you're just trying to do this with Jim bros Next thing you know you're in a shitty matrix equals didn't have any G and all the sun Remember the Glenn Johnson one the Glenn Johnson made I felt bad for him after he was He was getting washed out everything that was a bad one and that was off the tariff fight right and so you see like all the sudden This dude just can't take a shot anymore and Glenn Johnson who was one of those unheralded dangerous dudes It could really kind of beat anybody that crazy clams.

1:29:13Yeah, who's your doctor mountain Australia?

1:29:24I don't know He's tough because I would just throw volume yeah, yeah for sure And he he Roy Jones Roy Jones he was in his face like Roy Jones Yeah, if you if you thought the Roy Jones that that James Tony had a fight then That's not different. Yeah, one of them wanted a purest power punchers was Julian Jackson. Oh my god Yes, the Hawk Oh my god, you know um Kevin Kevin Holland's coach works what used to work with him real Yeah, they're like really good friends that guy That guy had power power play that play the Terry Norris fight Julian Jackson Terri Norris the Danny Green in Australia Yeah, Danny Green Danny Green.

1:30:05Yeah, you know, I'm gonna use the head real quick guy. Go go. You know what to say You know my Terri Norris and Julie Julian Jackson Terri Norris right dude you just do yeah, this one's in hot legs Terrifying this one's just terrifying. Well Terry Norris that poor guy. Yeah, he's in real I don't know. Nobody had more one punch power than Julian Jackson. No short short punches to just laugh I used to love him. Yeah, orland Norris. He's good too. Oh, there was brother was a heavyweight and he was a 47 remember 47 and 54 right But watch this Julian Jackson KO it's so crazy because it's like he just shot some off He hit he hit and Terry Norris was a killer.

1:30:54Oh, this is a prime Terry Norris. This is a prime Terry Norris Is a dangerous Terry Norris here, but he just catches him What's this? Okay, so that was the first one so you heard him with that left hand, but he catches him with the right hand and just freezes him Oh my god I mean, you know, I like his sure one punch fighter. I know. I was just some guys just like Just look at him stalking I would be terrified of that guy was stalking me like that. It's just he knows all he has to do is get you once And every time he hits you you know it too because you're like oh shit uppercut. This is fucking terrifying So he's already softening him up in there Oh man, he took two more.

1:31:42He took two more. He was out on his feet Bro and those were wind up on his last two. He took or wind up ones Julian Jackson is terrified Oh, Gerald McClellan had his number like I felt so bad for him like because he got slept so fast and there's fight You know, Gerald McClellan was a 75 pounder. Oh, they fought twice. Gerald McClellan fought Terry Norris. Julie and Jackson. Oh Oh, that's right, but that's when Julian went up right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so was Julian a middleweight at this time I believe so Crazy thing is like I didn't know that because Terry Gerald McClellan and Julian Jackson were at the same weight class Yeah, they were fighting twice.

1:32:25I was at one of the fights McClellan though was like 175 though, right? The MGM McClellan was so dangerous man My first live boxing card I ever went to was in Vegas at the MGM And it was all rematches. It was Jesse James Leihon as human Nelson. Yeah, it was I think it was Simon Brown and Vincent Petway. It was Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan and it was Holy O 'Cease or Shava as in Frankie Randall God, what weight is this at? What weight is this at because I know they were trying to set up middleweight crazy so that's That's so that's before Well, they were talking about a Roy Jones junior fight and I think he was really struggling Not a lot there big time Yeah, because Gerald McClellan was really struggling to make way.

1:33:13He Gerald took his belt and then they rematched and he slept them like And so the Nigel Ben fight that was middleweight as well Nigel Ben man. He uh, that was the one that ended his career Gerald McClellan. Yeah, dude. He was I mean in my opinion There was a lot of rabbit punch and and he where I'm not having a blood clot in the back of his head Well, there's also they there was a nasty headbutt in that fight too, but it's also Nigel Ben came back from that first round Which oh look at that KO. Oh my goodness and in the rematch he sleeps and fast. Oh my goodness You know, what is going on with his hair?

1:33:46It was always What is that? Yeah, but I mean it's like that and like the little size. He need a cut. Oh my god. Gerald McClellan just coming after you for the kill terrifying That's it Yeah, I think in a lint of count. He just had uh, he had his number man Beating both times. He was one of the scariest punches of all time. Yeah, both He's another guy who tried to empty the gas tank with Nigel Ben in that first round and Ben survived But then he winds up having that brain bleed That's that's the one of the scariest ones ever man because is this the rematch Okay, let's watch this execution. I remember this.

1:34:22I was at this one This was in Vegas. Yeah MGM Well once John McClellan knew that he could put it on you. It's like his power was just so nuts for that weight class But I always wanted to know like what is he really way? He's like one of those Benavitas guys like when you get in there. What do you really way? Because he he really struggled with the weight cut and that's one. Oh my god Tien off dude Tien off that shot to the body My goodness he can't even look up. He's not even let him get chance to get off just getting executed Every shot's got murder on it. Oh that left to the body. Oh my goodness The power in these fucking punches man just overwhelm them liver shot Is the giving them a stand -in -8 isn't that crazy?

1:35:18Standing eight count is kind of nuts. This is the most real ever. It's kind of nuts because I'm a eight seconds to clear your head and get the way to do it. It really is Well, you remember when shoot -o used to do standing eight counts. Yeah back in the day. Yeah. Yeah What do you think about red cards or yellow cards? I think they should bring them back What would you bring them back for stalling stalling? Yeah, yeah That's probably about the only thing you should bring them back for stalling like hanging and hanging out too long Like hey man get to work Ice lane was a submission and like pride and they did the referee be like what do you say?

1:35:55Catch Yeah, yeah, when someone caught something. Yeah What do you guys think of a or tega and Lopez? That's a good I think Lopez won't get him I mean Look as went through a rollercoaster ride his last fight. I know imagine that you got three different opponents You got three different weight classes everything's changing. Well, you got two different opponents, right? But a bunch of different weight classes And then or take a can't make it and so or take steps out and then he winds up fighting Danny gay 50 gay on like 40 minutes notice Dan's just you know, I'm gonna train that like something I didn't know about that But I was watching DC was actually talking about this And he said that e gay have been training for five or six weeks.

1:36:47Obviously he took the fight on like a two -hour call They said Lopez had only been training for three weeks Yeah, yeah, you get on shorter no Yeah, cuz it was short notice for him because he got tired in the fight and everybody's thinking he's got a big gas tank We had to cut weight to the yeah, it's from saying he cut weight to 45. Yeah, so he had three weeks of training Weight up and down everywhere and they thought it six and he was able to pull it out. Didn't they fight it? Yeah, cuz it was same day way and yeah, which is crazy and that was just really like no one should be cutting weight kids Right like at this point like if you make the fight happen just let him show up I think what they really should do they really should do is just find out what you fucking actually weigh and just stop fighting Non -sense it should be looked at the same way steroids looked at it should be looked at the same way all other kind of cheating is looked at it's sanctioned cheating I really 155 with you just whatever you weigh just fight there exactly and more options for weight classes Do you think same day wayans would change it but it would get more guys hurt?

1:37:49I mean they say that The dehydration stuff. This is the reason why McClellan one of the things I say about Head injuries and death in boxing The vast majority of them don't take place in heavyweight So the guys who hit the hardest or not the guys who are getting these like horrible brain injuries where they get dead And they're not cutting weight they're not cutting weight and the guys who die a lot like the duck kook him's like if you look at the guys who die a lot of them I've never ever to say you may have to oh my god. How could you be killed a guy right a lot of those guys that are dying or dying in the weight classes where they cut a lot of weight Well, I mean you're right.

1:38:24So like like Sean Brady and Gilbert Burns over the weekend like They weigh Sean Brady's 170 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying like just let them fight it 20 minute. Just let them fight at 190 right These guys are 190 pound They walk into the cage at 190 they should just be fighting it one night. They should be feeding at 190 And this way they both agree to it, you know, yeah, you can't get any heavier than 194 Whatever but you we know what you weigh like let's just make sure that fight. Yeah, fuck all this weight cutting. It's just cheating It and also the the fucking drama of seeing if a guy dehydrated himself enough 24 hours before a cage fight Is somehow another interesting to people or Daniel Kormay is pushing down that towel.

1:39:07Remember that shit? Oh, yeah Remember DZ? Yeah And if you don't get caught it ridiculous John Jones and Daniel Kormay were both fucking killers. Let him eat Yeah, let him hydrate themselves fuck all this way and then you know what you weigh figure out what you wave when you make the contract Yeah, and then just that's what it is yeah, that's what it is that's what you weigh and and be loose about it But guys a pound over a pound under who gives a fuck Well, how about what don't they hydrate yourself? But how about what they did the Mikey Musamechi? All right, right, right, right, he got off. Oh, he got his situation Well, I mean he was going up and wait to fight cave ratollo So he went up to 170 and they're like a couple days like a week before they're like no You got to go back down to 135 cable Tolo's outside And he's the champion and they treated him like this and they're like you got to go back down and cut 30 pounds He gets sick cutting 30 pounds Well, he almost died They took his belt took his belt That's fucked up wait a minute they took his belt belt for missing weight Wait a minute really?

1:40:09Yes, that's what I'm saying like they like one totally fucked him I didn't hear that I saw I mean I saw an article about when he's in the hospital for trying to do you a favor exactly My point exactly how shocked because it's really not what they're supposed to be about how are you gonna make this fucking guy fight after You know they had a statement or after he's cutting 30 pounds. How are you making him do that? He's cutting 30 pounds in three days What's their statement One speaks out Okay, well they say after recent events we feel it is necessary to provide additional context on Mikey Me semachis withdrawal from the one at 168 Denver card sit y 'all tongue and mousse a mechie Set up mousse a mechie mike who is obviously put in difficult spot when kade ratollo withdrew due to injury when that happened We work closely with him and his team on a new opponent competing at flyweight was something that he personally requested As he felt confident that he could make the hydrated limit of 135 pounds for a world title defense This is not something we pushed to him to do on short notice or would have ever demanded of a one athlete given how much we prioritized fighter safety After Mikey failed weight and hydration tests on Thursday He requested an opponent submission grappling contest against A beberto olivera and we continue to work with him to try to keep him on the cards at y 'all tongue to continue on a mousse a mechie He ultimately felt it was his best interest to withdraw from the contest and we are honoring that at this writing is uncertain When mousse a mechie will return to one or who will compete for the now vacant belt Mousse a mechie was diagnosed with the new new mo new mo me de Stinem Numo media stinem a rare condition which air leaks from a part of the lung.

1:41:59Oh Jesus This is how do you how do you fucking strip a guy when he winds up in the hospital like they didn't fight Right exactly that doesn't make any sense like imagine if Alex is fighting Clil round tree and in making weight He winds up in the hospital and the fights canceled. He doesn't lose his belt. Well in this organization it does That's great. That's great. See another reason why weight cutting should be It's not a lot of events. It's nonsense. It's terrible. They're always gonna fucking do it. Yeah Yeah, but you know what man? I think it's a part of the culture that can be eradicated I don't think it's impossible to eradicate it That's like saying all they can always do steroids Well you saw it came along and they fixed that right, you know, and now drug free sport they fixed it So like most of these athletes are pretty clean There might be a few instances of questions Perhaps a trip to a foreign land is difficult to get to Both you're right for the most part it is the most part Because we've seen like deteriorations of performance because guys have had to clean up the uberium era was the best era When it was just a it was an IQ test.

1:43:05I was just looking at pictures of him today versus uberium and it's pretty crazy Wait, oh, oh, oh, how he looks now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, now he's like he's on a vegan diet and he's all spiritual really Yeah, Alster's like real thin now. Yeah, what is he maybe what 200 pounds? Yeah, he's thinner than he was when he was fighting That's a weird picture. It's hard to tell from that picture. So I could find he looked bigger than the other ones Well, he made still a big fuck. They have like side by sides of him then and now It's hard to tell in that picture. He's always gonna be a big guy You know, he's a massive man, but you know when he fought Brock Lesnar.

1:43:41He was just a freak of science He was the freakiest of all freaks if you just let that dude juice it up like that that guy back in the day He was the most dangerous because those kickboxing seals were top not how about V -torwin he was on Baby, right baby wraps up to his ears. I know you had them turtle shells back I feel like you saw a Rob us of the real uberium Like if uberium could have stayed uber. Yeah, could have stayed uber and just continued at 265 Baby baby baby He'd still be champ Bro them kicks boxing skills his kickboxing skills were super legit and there goes a K1 Grand Prix champion That super legit kickboxing skills and he wasn't a bad grappler and he had a good guillotine.

1:44:26Yeah He won the Abu Dhabi trials in Europe. Yeah, yeah now he's legit and man that fucking the kickboxing though. Oh Oh Hmm It's funny how you know you look back on Those days like especially the juicy days and you wonder like What would the world look like now if we were under the same sort of protocols? They were they were under then if there was no real to forget about the TRT days because that was everybody lost their fucking mind That was crazy. You're allowing guys to juice up. That was crazy But when there was just tests at the weigh -ins Yeah, that's a different thing man. Yeah, that's a different thing.

1:45:05Just testing out the weigh -ins. Yeah, no randoms Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for sure. I've eaten a fine. Oh That's the old days man. That is true. It is rough to get hydrated back up though. Now. Yeah, I don't like crazy Explanation for that. I'm doing masking. People can use that to use it to mask All right. Yeah, apparently there's some ways that you can mask you just overflow your system with fluids and then clean Just how all the traces of whatever metabolites being there. I guess it you know, it's probably a window where it would get back in your urine It's hard to get hydrated. Yeah, that was kind of my point because it kind of takes away from safety But I guess brother what shouldn't be doing that.

1:45:45They shouldn't be dehydrating themselves Have that they are I know but but it seems like you know this I actually said this to the guys that bought the UFC When I was talking to Ari about it. I was like dude. This is the first thing you should do figure out a way to get rid of the weight glasses As they are like whoever this is a champion in that keep them as champion Let them defend the belt and what they actually weigh like you got a bay this weight cuttings the most the thing is gonna Fuck us more than anything is just somebody gets really badly hurt because they had a really bad weight cut You know guys have kidney failure for sure and it's just died you lose all the water around your brain I'm gonna take and try my limit.

1:46:22I mean weight classes more weight classes. You need a weight class I think you need one every 10 pounds But I think we should be a little bit looser on like what a person weighs I think you should make a contractual obligation to like fight each other you find out what a person way he weighs His natural weight is 175 do you want to fight him your natural weight is 169 You're agreed that you can't get any higher than 176. Are you cool with that? Yeah, okay? I'm cool with that. That's like total You don't have to think at all about cutting weight at all And so the day before the fight instead of almost dying you're filling yourself up with carbs and nutrients You're relaxing you're gonna have a better performance.

1:47:02It's better for the sport It's better for the healthy the athletes It's more representation of what a real 155 pound guy looks like because you see those guys and they get in there and they're 180 like Drickus yeah, that is not an 185 pound man. He's fucking massive Maybe they need to weigh in the day. They're signing the contract to see where both of them are That way you should add again Also, but they would they need to hydrate you too the like it dudes will fuck around That's true. They'll still cut weight So if we have a hydration thing like see if you're gonna compete you you you need to be in shape in your fighting weight And then we're gonna weigh you in and we're gonna check your water levels.

1:47:41We're gonna check your hydration Okay, this is what you actually weigh you weigh 182 pounds in your prime ready to go, okay? So this is what you guys are can contractually obligated to stay in this range So you can't get any higher than 183 or 184 you's given like a two pound nobody's I have to take a shit No one's gonna be saying they're real weight to begin with now I'm gonna stop them. They fucking hydrate test them. Yeah, they test them. So if they show up You say to a guy like look we're gonna show up We're gonna test you at the weight that you're gonna fight at So you can't get any higher than this and we're gonna make sure that you're not dehydrated So we're gonna check you to make sure that you're not fucking around like pretending that you're 180 182 pounds really 200 new dehydrate yourself for the last four hours Let's find out what you really weigh what they do and like Maryland for lay high school wrestling The before the season the kids have to get the electric, you know body composition Yeah, and it sees what they weigh it sees where their body fat percentages and it says you can't go no lower than this So they they should do they should do a little bit more and they should do blood They should do blood hydration levels.

1:48:48They should check your urine. They should I think that would cost a lot for They should do it. Well, I'm not saying do it. I'm not not school. So what school systems doing is great I mean for the UFC they just need to be sure He's don't anybody fuck around like hey showed up at 196 you still want to take the fight like what the fuck? It's 182. What are we doing? Right? What a problem? 96 the problem is the UFC has the ability to do this No other organization would have the ability to do that's the problem is it and the UFC obviously could do it like at the P .I Like every year. This is what we do.

1:49:21Yeah, but no other or like regional level organizations would be able to do it So it'd be a little tougher. I heard doesn't California do some kind like Andy fall stir do some kind of hydration testing there for athletes I think he has a limit on how much you can gain. I think he has a percentage. Yeah Not sure. Does that too they have a But then you just making sure the guys dehunter because guys are knuckleheads. They're gonna dehydrate themselves anyway Did have that size advantage especially got like McClellan was thinking to take you out the first round anyway And they're size bullies. Yeah, you should find out what you fucking really weigh and fight it what you really weigh out It shouldn't be the ultimate weight cutting championship.

1:49:56Yeah better for your chin not to be Everything better for the longevity better for the health of your physical body that is For sure for sure. Yes for everything recovery performance. There'd be better fights I like the P .I. That's pretty that's a good. Yeah The look it can be done because if it wasn't and then all sudden people started doing it It would be something people would call out if nobody ever cut weight And then also never started cutting weight every what the fuck is this shit? You're not 170 pounds This is a lie. How are you the 170 pound champion when you wait 200 pounds? That's crazy.

1:50:30My wife hates that She's she that's her biggest pve when MMA is weight cutting. She's like that's not even fair You know, well, it is fair because you're both doing it, but it's not right. Yeah, it's cleaners though. It's stupid It's bad for everybody 155 was brutal for me to make and 175 that would have been great for me. That's what I'm saying 170. I was I was small for once So all you need is 10 pounds every 10 pounds we go 170 goes to 175 85 95 205 maybe 225 and then it's super big is the fucking guy is right because I don't like this to 65 bullshit Roll the ones last time you wait 265 Actually right now But what year the biggest what you were how they were three oh five damn So you'd have to lose a fuck load of weight you'd have to lose 40 fucking pounds That's crazy.

1:51:25Yeah, not that's crazy. That's so hard to do Like when you got a guy like in gano there's a natural 265 which is nuts like he falls right there Like right in the hot zone like a natural shredded 265, but that's what he really weights I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not cutting weight right right right right right What's the way do they have the same shit in Bella Thor or pfl? Yeah, I think they don't think they have a super heavyweight Yeah, I think he has an active super heavyweight division in MMA that I'm aware of No, no big organization. I don't think pfl has it Japan really was the only place to put on the crazy Shows They didn't love the steroids now a 180 pound guy fight a gorilla Kim a fuck they have Gabby Garcia fight housewives Can the suit oh took on a whole kinds of gypsy Did you take on butter be a butter be a butter be a be a be a block Bro butter be crack yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy remember that time we had a boxing match against some football player Somebody let some poor football player have a boxing match with butter be any might have been a celebrity boxing match And butter being knocked him into another dimension.

1:52:41He's a tough man bro He was what did I used to call him the king of the four round? Yeah, I'm gonna say big ain't going to this 450 fucking pounds So he could go out there and win mill but what a goddamn nightmare that guy was you couldn't hit anything on him He's he was doing horribly is like yeah 150 sweaters on you not gonna hurt him Like I heard any sweaters And that other guy looks natural Who That's gotta be Japan who is that yeah, who's he fighting there? He's like kicking this guy Royster also this is a kickboxing match. Yeah, it's not When I was at my heavy is that kind of look like is this a I've no idea I just typed that in that system.

1:53:28Oh, well it might have been it might be a football player trained in my may Marcus roister. Oh nice to either body. He's big. He's big enough We see if you could find there was a boxing match that he had against some Some football player dude. Do poor butter being that guy was Couldn't walk couldn't anything but now he's fucked up. Oh celebrity boxing. That's probably it Yeah, these Diamond Dalles page brought it like really did another Another one of the problem brought him back, man Shout out to ddp such a positive guy. Yeah, like put him up in the house Feed him all that you know he doesn't ever he's doing butter be such a good boy.

1:54:05You should like it's something to see Like he really brought him back butter being couldn't he but I mean verse that's that dude first big really fighter This poor dude this poor dude got shot into another dimension. Oh, he looks like he looks like he's getting shot and deserves it for that fucking This is the one of them guys that you know somebody should have told him Like this is a bad idea Eventually this fucking crazy looking dude is gonna catch you. We're all these meat bombs gonna hit you right in your porn status. Yeah, right Does the thing about winning with a porn stash You know, but you get KO'd with a porn stash on people they don't feel sympathetic to you.

1:54:48They should you stupid ass with that mustache See if you can find out where this ends. Yeah, butter being right Oh Come on. This is a highlight. Whoever they this is a clickbait on us. Go in around three. Oh, so does it Does he stop him here? Maybe This guy played the guy that I saw him K. Oh, oh, oh, oh Man, yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can punch dude. He could punch It was just crazy to watch a guy who's only willing to fight four rounds Can't get a four rounders He's used to that tough man shit This is a place for everything right like like the bear knuckle thing like we were talking about Mike Perry before Yeah, started doing this that that's the perfect spot for that dude He should have told Jake Paul listen.

1:55:39We need to fight, but let's do bear knuckle pussy. Yeah, let's go This you do that you know, it's a different thing man. It's a different thing with that guy What's like man always has played your strengths Yeah, but you know you got to take that payday. I mean what did he make out of that fight? He probably made 10 million bucks Yeah, and Jake pulls very smart man like he gets guys that he's he's bigger than He's got a 24 another boxer his size was Tom Fury and he lost Tom Fury good fight. Tommy Fury very good fight very good fight You know, I think he's like any other young up -and -coming boxer.

1:56:11It's just everybody dismisses him because he's a youtuber for sure It's easy to dismiss him, but I was there when he knocked out Tyron and I was like man, I'm done with this kid I like I never I never wanted to corner another fight in my life man I was like yo, he just knocked my boy flat out on his face man It was I was heartbroken, but he has power is real power and that's why like everyone's talking about this Mike Tyson thing I was like man. They should not be letting this thing happen. I really hope he doesn't knock Mike Tyson out To me, I just be real bummed out to see Mike get killed right 58 years old 60 like what other sport are we were we let a 58 year old man compete other than golf Right, but you know why are we letting this happen?

1:56:51It's kind of crazy But he's made for it man like he's made my ears. Yeah, I mean it's Dude he's perfectly capable knocking him out. He is perfectly capable If he's eggs when you should has act Mike can close the distance in a way that he doesn't expect and Mike also has Layers upon layers of attacks that are in his Mind he's forgotten more about boxing than Jake Paul has ever remembered now It's just how quickly can it happen because how much gas is a guy? Why how is he feel now he might have been excited when he said he was wanted to do it But how's he feel now you got months and months and months of this?

1:57:28I just want to see something on him Does he dismiss the does he wish he didn't say yes to it? House his health houses back houses, but it seems to be having fun having fun when he's promoting yeah, he seems to be it's probably on mushroom And it's also this first reward like if he loses he's also almost 60 if he wins Fuck man, that's another great He's a monster look at the the end of the day Mike Tyson's monster and if you can get that monster to just move in and close the distance And he if he uncorrects all boom boom on Jake Paul watch Jake Paul go into queer street that will be wild to watch a 58 year old It would be west case scenario for the world I agree for sure Someone gets hurt the best case scenario for the world is it he knocks Jake Paul Yeah, best case scenario is Jake Paul realizes immediately.

1:58:21He's in there with Mike Tyson that Mike Tyson at least for a round or two First time he gets cracked. It's gonna I guarantee it his head's gonna be like oh shit It's gonna be interesting to see what happens how many rounds is it? I think it's eight eight two -minute rounds better two minutes Yeah, I think they're doing two -minute rounds. I think they have better. Do they have 10 ounce gloves or 12 ounce gloves? Jamie that's not better the two -minute rounds. Yeah, I think they're making them have slightly bigger gloves which he announced 14 ounces That's so sparring And it's not sanctions right it can't be sanction.

1:58:50It's sanctioned. It's sanctioned. How do you sanction that? Texas Yeehaw You know My wife was driving home one day she saw zebra say place has more I go this is Zebra loose I go welcome to Texas baby a zebra yeah, you can have a zebra here So did zebra got out? They got a few tigers here, right? This more joint there's more tigers in captivity in Texas in private collections than in all of the wild of earth No, yes, that's true. Yeah, but you know about tigers getting loose in people's yards. They fence them in bro So how big are these tigers like their tiger tigers real tight real tight there's thousands of tigers in private collections in Texas Really bro, this is a crazy place.

1:59:40It's a crazy place. Oh, it's so tight, but the weed Yeah, but you got to be on that they're also tight with fentanyl tests, which is even crazier escape tiger that had Texas communities on edge finally caught Oh, yeah, that was around Houston Bangal Tiger was on loose for nearly a week What was it eating That's that's Houston that's see got all that oil money down there in Houston and that's where dudes have their own tigers It's what I like about New York. You just got to worry about some raccoons and shit There's a guy in New York that had a fucking tiger in his house in Harlem. What yeah, there's a photograph a famous photograph of these cops Even find that photo Jamie the cops are looking through the foot right there looking through the window This guy had a tiger in his fucking apartment.

2:00:25Oh my god. I think bro. How insane is that photo? What was the guy in there? Was he eating? I don't think the guy got killed I think they just found out the guy had a tiger in there and they had to go and dart him Nothing they had a dragon out of there and take him to the room. Yeah, the dude had a 450 pound cat in his fucking apartment But they how do you clean up after that not well? Get a big little box first of all that things gonna piss everywhere I know they marked their territory but pissing on things they got a smell Oh, they would have it. Oh, man, even that guy was just tiger it out.

2:00:57He's all in regular cat urine's bad enough I know tiger's just pissing on your walls We can tell it don't do that You hit it with a fucking newspaper Your arm what happened to the tiger King is he in jail still? Yeah, still in jail. I had the people who did the documentary on yesterday That thing was crazy though with that you killing himself by accident crazy and even first of all that that I mean first of all you don't find more white trash Fucking you know what chimp crazy crazy they take it to the next level. Yeah, I'm not watching that I am gonna watch that bro It's nuts. It's not it's fucking nutty man Whoo the people's desired to have these things that could kill them so strange.

2:01:39I'll just watch the new plenty of the apes movie That King came out is that supposed to be good? I see those aren't bad. How's that alien movie? Do you see that the new one? No, I heard it's good really? Yeah I heard it's real good. I heard it's scary as fuck I heard it like goes back to like the first alien where they're like hard to find it scary Like after a while they were everywhere and you just shoot them right, you know like the first one you couldn't even find that fucker They feel like sneaking around aliens acid blood. Yeah, he was so scared Aliens was such a great sequel to alien because it was a different take on it and then the space the marine space Marines and Fucking Newton fucking Hicks Hicks was great Hudson was good.

2:02:21Oh, Hudson was fucking great Bill Paxon. Oh, yeah Yeah, over man. Good movie. It was a totally different kind of movie right so you got Ridley Scott does the first alien suspension you got the suspenseful terrifying thing and people start coming up missing and you know It's fucking hide in the ceiling thinking Tom ever it's gonna be the hero right and then also he gets taken out You're like wait, what what oh it's gonna be cigar cigordy. She's the she was the first male or female Lead of a monster movie action movie where you didn't go all their push in a woman on me. She's right Believe yes, yes, you believe that this lady scientist got stuck in this fucking spaceship with a demon.

2:03:06Oh, this is great Oh, the movie is so good aliens is so aliens is good, but alien is better. No because it's hard to kill And aliens they're shooting them left and right. They're all over the place in the people in aliens Alien one would have been done in five minutes like But in this one they kill so many of them until they get to the mother and then when the mother doesn't kill her when she's wearing the robot suit I'm like shut the fuck up bitch, but I like what she's I get away from her And you really didn't know what was going on in the second one they were prepared for what they were coming up against the thing is There's too much exposed.

2:03:45I don't buy it if she's in a robot thing where she's completely encased Okay, but she's just all out there Get away from her you bitch. This is a giant alien How is that thing not gonna? It moves way quicker than people. How's that not gonna fuck you up instantaneously with your stupid ass slow robot Moments in that though that movie when they like when they barricade themselves in the in the in the one room And they're like they have the monitor and they're like they threw the wall that's that's inside the room Can't be inside the room also they look up and he put and you see hex he looks he pushes up the tile and you see them all crawling in the That was fucking money fucking money.

2:04:28That was a great movie. It's a great movie. It's just a different kind of movie You know, I was I was hoping they would have got more into like the engineers like when they did that Prometheus that they would have got into those people but they really it wasn't much of a movie And I'm curious was good, but the one after Prometheus was better. What was that one? Jamie what was the last one with Kenny McBride in it right? Yeah Because it ended fucked up Covenant yeah, it wasn't jossy smoolet in that one too He was This one's good This is another nominies in there. He's in the spaceship. He's working the controls.

2:05:07This is uh, oh This one's fucking good. This is this one's really good And again the aliens in this one they're they're hard to get a hold on. Is that Michael fastbender? Yeah Yes, so these are the things that get you here little spores Get inside you from that egg It's a good one man. This is a really good one. Yeah, I did right when these dudes start shaking when it gets them Hmm It's fucking great. That's a good one. Yeah, I but I heard the new one is really good too I think the new ones really Scott too as well, right and he's doing a new is he doing a new gladiator Really, did he do the new god?

2:05:45I mean, I know Oh, yeah, I know coming out. Yeah, I'm on the fence with that I'm on the fence with it. Why? I don't know. I mean I don't know is he talking like New York slang Denzel and the fucking thing. No man Oh, did people said something about his accent right? What is the accent that people have an issue with? We hear Denzel let's hear his accent I never knew a mother nor father You will be my instrument Why you Denzel be tell like a regular dude. Yeah, well they won't have a British accent They always want people when they're speaking in double languages translate English. They always want them to have a British accent No, it doesn't matter.

2:06:31It doesn't matter where it is. Where it is room Yeah, everyone told us in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. It is kind of weird This is an India. I mean, you know, I'm saying no matter where it is. They want to have a British accent. This is in Rome In Italy. Why why were they why would they do they talk like this? But there's something about like hearing regular modern English in an old -timey movie like no Yeah, like you don't buy it. Yeah, you need an accent Like Terry and Lanister Yeah, the people in game of thrones. They all had an English accent. Did they speak? Yeah An Italian accent back then or did that that's a good question?

2:07:06I don't think they spoke Latin. I don't think these people were speaking Latin Were they in Rome? Yeah, they may have been up there. Were they speaking Italian or were they speaking Latin? They would have been speaking Latin Okay, but see here's the question the reason why I asked this when Martin Luther was translating the Bible in the 1500s or the 1400s whenever that was That the reason why the Bible was the priests would be the only one that could tell you the word of God because they had the only one It could read Latin so no one spoke Latin no one read Latin. They couldn't read it So these people didn't know what was in the Bible until Martin Luther He translated into phonetic languages translated.

2:07:43I think German and a couple other languages got it got eventually translated to so then people could read the Bible for themselves Whereas before it was just Latin. So when did Latin die off when did they stop using Latin? Because Latin's a weird one like you learn it in school, but you're never gonna fucking use it Roman Latin. I agree They spoke Latin and Greek Like when did Latin go isn't it crazy? So the Roman Empire they spoke a language that's dead It's a dead language. It is gone now. God for 76 That's probably people stop speaking up, but priest probably still knew because of all everything was right So there it is after fall of Roman 476 AD Latin began to die out and distinct local Latin dialects developed wow So these dialects eventually evolved to modern Roman Italian and Spanish which is crazy That means those languages are only 500 fucking years old That's nuts, but if you see a movie about it, it was English with an English accent right?

2:08:37Yes Yeah, of course, it's a bit crazy that those languages like Italian is only like 500 years old And there's a lot of similarities between Spanish and Italian. Oh yeah, they all well Texas is way bigger than all those places You know, which is nuts like Europe when you look at America It's basically like Europe right, but we don't call it different countries right, but Kentucky is so much different than Los Angeles You know, it's gonna be 1500 years old not 500 Oh, that's right. Uh 20 yeah, and not a lot of us caught that either You're just seeing it you're seeing it saying it not okay, so I'm sorry 1500 years still languages developing that you would think they're older than that Did you guys ever watch and I watched it more than once?

2:09:23I watched it like I've these a few times this the series Yeah, I have the box that haven't seen it It's only two seasons They crammed it into two seasons. They said the budget was high the budget was super high at the time And it is a fucking great series it is very Poolyale all the bad ass. Oh my god I'm a great show. It's amazing. That guy's real such a great show who they make shit on the watch This is a real dude. It holds up. I never heard anything about it. You should watch this where it is his name Race Steve and I highly recommend you play the Punisher too and on race even since he was Poolyale That's what put him on and the other guy Lucius is phenomenal.

2:10:02I want to say that Lucius Was maybe they based that on a real guy Well, listen, it is it is so great and You even if you're going to YouTube and watch Lucius and Titus just being bad ass or Titus Poolyale being bad ass is just oh my god. It's a good series Such a great series. No shit. I never recommend anything about it. That's amazing good I need something to watch. It's always just finished the picky blinders Yeah, you go through this. There's only two seasons and again. I revisited. Have you been to Rome? No, no me and my wife She's waiting for my stomach to get better Go and put a cook up my ass because I'm not gonna just go just go why you can and I heard you can eat the food over there And it's not as bad for you Not nervous way well.

2:10:49We've got some weird shit going on with our food. That's for sure You can eat pasta over there. You feel normal. No, I definitely feel fine I don't have so good. I don't have poison in their foods over there. It's nice families We you know fruit loops in America are different than fruit loops in fucking Canada Because we we allow all the dirty chemicals. We allow all those funky dyes that are horrible for you And European countries like no, that's just that shit's poison. We're like Give the babies the poison Lover with sugar I'm loaded with sugar, but we never know when we were kids. No, we were told to make we should just all it is right your teeth No big deal right that's what it felt like yeah, you didn't think it was gonna kill you.

2:11:32I grew up on that shit All of it. We all just take frosted brakes and put sugar on it Remember those days I love And if I had no milk I had cool aid in there I remember Travis leader. Yeah, some guys are like too smart I don't know about me in raisins in there and I'm gonna eat and fucking kick hats. Oh, yeah, he's like a sugar sugar I got that. I don't I don't think it works like that. I'm out of luck. I'm far from a fucking I nutritionist, but I don't think you know He said there is something to be said for drinking things that have a high sugar content after hard training if there's that's that's fact and you know who's to do that Floyd may with her Floyd may whether he used to be having these crazy workouts and he would crack open a Pepsi and people like What the fuck is he doing like he's crazy, but no, he's nice smart like you It's hard as I got worked out replenish your muscle like a general you're getting that muscle glycogen into crazy way That you're really not gonna get any other way like I don't recommend drinking soda.

2:12:38I like it. It's fun I like to drink a soda every now and then a real one But he used to drink it after training when I saw like Paul Felder does like after like a long bike ride Yeah, he would talk about like drinking a soda Yeah, the best times to do it or like they say either when you If you wake up just because you're your fasted or after a big work out there to save his time Yeah, I mean he's there drinking a coke and you would think like there's no way this guy He treats his body like a temple. I bet he does. He's smart That guy did it the right way never drink Yeah, never partied never was out of shape never got fat would run home from the club at two o 'clock in the morning In his jeans.

2:13:16Yeah, just fucking getting in word He could see all the mistakes. Yeah, he's like I'm not making any of these. Yeah, he was built different to like he's smarter smarter than everybody and also figured out I can't knock everybody out But I can get everybody to want me to get knocked out and so people come to see me get knocked down. I beat everybody I mean he's definitely the greatest defensive fighter of all time if boxing is hit and doesn't get and don't get hit Who's better than Floyd zero people Who how many people cracked him in his career Mowl Shane right Shane Crackton um, I mean up the chop chop with DeMarcus Goyle cracked them once and then um Conor McGregor March 18 uh Um my Donna My Donna my Donna my Donna the first two daughter was pretty Max is tooth on then would carry it around on a necklace My Donna has fully made where there's two Show it Jamie my Donna has No tooth like on a gold necklace a lot of people thought my Donna one the first one But look at that like if you crack he definitely cracked him at the end of that round and wobbled him And then it was right at the bell and so then Floyd got back on his bike and started out boxing him But my Donna see there it is there's his tooth see there it is he's got knocked out and he keeps it around his nose How good defensively you have to be That we can count how many times you've been cracked amazing yeah amazing, but also could recover.

2:14:48Yeah for sure He just had a lot of hand injuries. How do you find his tooth in that motherfucker? So he's like probably tell this guy get that You can see it in the fight it flies out of his mouth and one of the corner men saw it and grabbed it Damn yeah, that's great great. That's hilarious. Like we need that that's a second fire He uh Floyd got the rat the the ring bigger and he just destroyed him in the second one because he had more room to run The first one my Donna was kept getting them on the ropes getting them on the ropes and beating him up Well, if you're gonna have a rematch with a master technician He's gonna figure out all your little All these shots call or so do you see how big the ring is and everything super legged in in 1 FC I didn't see that no, what is that dude super legged is this Badass moly tie fighter and he fought um Jonathan Haggardy Who was that was that one to hit him with the elbow yeah, yeah, I heard about that.

2:15:45Yeah, but I saw an interesting breakdown Here it is. So Haggard look at this you caught him with that overtop elbow Like real quick in the fight. I think it was like 40 seconds. Oh beautiful. K .O So they had a real good fight in the first fight Was six years ago and Haggardy became the champion and everybody thought you know like this can be much much different fight But what I saw that was interesting was someone broke down uh, there was a video breakdown of his Tells that Haggardy has a certain hop hop and then he goes in and then super legged timed it And he tried it earlier in the round and didn't catch it and in this one look at this perfect time It gets his head off the center line and ready to attempt all my god perfect elbow There's the thing that I love that one FC is doing.

2:16:30I don't love what they did the Mikey moves imagine But what I love what they're doing is they're having world -class moly tie fighters and they're putting them In these giant cards where like tens of thousands of people just see it's on Amazon Yeah, and then it's so millions of people are gonna see it around the world on Amazon and it's on the internet So all these people are gonna be able to see it on YouTube and it's exposing people to these guys that are just Super high -level strikers that you're not gonna hear about 200 fights like rotang who would have heard of rotang if it wasn't for one for sure For sure, right now everybody knows who is that fucking elbow remind them he said just brought me back to wide -manverse mock moon as Oh my god, that's a fucking elbow exactly That's the fucking elbow exactly that fight.

2:17:13I think was would uh inspire Chris padea to use the elbow against ranzu over the weekend Really yeah, and busted his eye wide open. He stopped the fight because it's that's interesting. Yeah, this watch it's incredible This is prime Timing on that Wide -man was a mother fucker dude. He was a mother fucker. We got a cellboat Long ago man So clean phenomenal ready Wide -man timing good boy. Yeah Chris. He's far more on to soon Eric. Oh, yeah, what is that? What is that? That's uh, it matters square garden. It's a 16th November 16th. Oh, that's a crazy fight Yeah, I don't see Chris is in South Carolina now.

2:17:56I don't see we don't seem so much South Carolina Chris now Wonderboy Is he like his own people with like Brian barbarian A decent little squad down there from from what I hear well he was throwing kicks in the last fight Yeah throwing hard kicks that right like I can't watch it. It's crazy. I can't watch it But it seemed like he was trying to prove a point like I'm really sure yeah He's such a man. He's such a beast Chris boy. That last fight was a bummer though the eye -poke thing was a real bummer It kind of made it yeah It was a bummer I feel like I keep saying it but I feel like they should cover those fingertips There's no reason why they're exposed doesn't make any sense do it like a bad glove cover it like a bad glove I mean, I just don't understand why like how they thought this was gonna solve the problem They're like new gloves and this guy's still getting poked in eye Yeah, it's still the same setup.

2:18:50Yeah, you know, if you really want like I feel like for if you're gonna have the fingerless ones Trevor witness Trevor Whippins are the best right they curve down right curve hard Yeah, your hands stay in this position. Well, you have to struggle to do this right your hand naturally goes into this position The UFC gloves are still like this. Yeah, like how did they think that was gonna be the answer? You got to cover the fingers There's no reason to not cover the fingers like a bad glove Just have a piece of leather that goes over the fingertips And so you have one thing it's not gonna invade your grappling.

2:19:19It's not gonna change your striking It's not gonna change anything. Yeah, yeah, just keep it closed And this way you at least if you get poked in the eye you're getting a full yeah thing like this You're not getting something that goes into your eyeball Yeah, so have them all Covered with something like and have like a ridge over the top of it like a soft foam ridge So even if you're getting poked in the eyes you're not you're not better than a failure Yeah, you're not getting an individual thing going deep in your eyeball with a fingernail Which is what people get right now you get fucking fingernails Dirty ass fingernail in your eyeball even even if you trim your nails like my nails are trimmed I wouldn't want that in my asshole.

2:19:56Oh, let me look at me today. Imagine if that's in your asshole Yeah, scratch around inside your asshole, right? And your eyeball is just soft tissue man That's worse than little ant man It's like soft tissue in your eyeballs is the scariest soft tissue We're allowing fingernails to go in there for no reason you could fix that You really could fix that by just covering the tips of the fingertips I think you should just use Trevor Whitman's glove Trevor was the best. Yeah, I do too. You're always gonna have thumbs You know you remember a Roberto Durana Davey Moore Yeah, yeah, you thumbed him right now I mean, Thomas do you want them to use the Trevor Whitman gloves because you feel bad about taking his fucking job.

2:20:40Well, listen We have the best gloves. Yeah, he has the best training gloves He just he uses the best materials like the the foam he uses is very different It's like super high -tech density foam. It feels better when you're hitting things I think it protects people from hand injuries better. Yeah, so they should talk to him. They did Oh, apparently you wanted some crazy amount of money that the UFC wasn't Trevor Trevor that's you have sees perspective. I don't know what Trevor. I love Trevor But I'm a big fan of his stuff. It was I if it was up to me I would figure out a way to make that work.

2:21:24Yeah for sure But you know apparently he wanted my so so Something crazy Nobody dresses better I got I got to man because like I'm working with y 'all you know Joe Rogan DC and then I got I got to have my own thing you don't you have a flare? Yeah, you're on Dean Thomas flare I got I got a show up somehow You know we show up Hey, there's some good fights on this card this weekend, you know, I know Bob Mondes is a bad motherfucker He is a bad motherfucker. That's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, that's that's an interesting fight on the undercarves. Let's see He's fighting Manuel Torres is also good. Yeah, that's a good fight man.

2:22:10That's a real good fight They that's one of them under the radar fights they put people in here to like the throw This car like the man who the man will tourist fight his last fight. He beat he beat the hell out of somebody last night dead Baham Monday's throw some wild shit. Oh Yeah, Chris Duncan. Yeah, he must have Chris Duncan. Yeah This is that that's gonna be an interesting fight, but for me go scroll all the way up to the top Jamie No, no, no, the the end of the car. He's on the car. I'm very very interested in the rematch of Alexa Grasso and Valentina Yes, me too. I felt like Valentina did enough to get the nod in the second fight.

2:22:50I did too I felt like she and some judge gave the last round to Alexa Grasso 10 eight the two points, which I thought was kind of Well, you know why right? Yeah, she had her in the choke. Yeah, but like he was just kind of biased from the first choke Right, so he thought I was close enough. It was kind of close, but it wasn't you know, I mean it means something if you're gonna do that You should do that all the time right time someone gets you in a choke and you defend that's a 10 -9 already already got a 10 -9 Anything more than that now it's 10 -8 you know like like boxing with knockdowns right that's scoring is too subjective 10 -8 round is more like when Al Jermaine had Yon on his back the entire round right threatening You know what I'm saying get the end of the round doesn't right right at 10 -8 is a dominant round You're like you dominated the whole round and I don't even did they give Al Jermaine two point like a time I don't even think he got 10 -8 for that.

2:23:41Oh, I know it was poor Al Jermaine didn't get the respect He deserves if that at Calvin Kater fight which was a fucking beautiful It was a fight It was a great fight. I think Al Jermaine was just a 45er who was a bad motherfucker a 35 But I think we're gonna see the real Al Jermaine 45. I think so too. I think he's gonna beat oh boy in a couple weeks He's so big man. I was always like how though. I saw him in between five. He's gonna beat most of the six He's gonna beat most of the couple weeks High level grappling. Yeah, interesting very high level work when he got San Hagen's back That was the quickness.

2:24:14Oh, yeah, that rear naked choke of his is about as good as it gets in MMA right now He's top three fight The eagle Lopez and our table is gonna be crazy. That's gonna be fucking crazy How do you think what take like what happened to a take a last time where he pulled out like something was up with supposedly He got a problem. He got something. Yeah, he got something real bad. Oh, yeah, he got real real set I think I got real set because they made that fight on like I said it was a three -week notice fight Yeah, he didn't look good the day of the weigh -ins You know, I do the interviews with fighters.

2:24:43I did an interview with him and he he was like he just looked tired Yeah, I think he just I mean he didn't make weight that fight either remember him is a way it was a medical with Yeah, so he missed a weight and then on top of that like they they changed the weight class then on top of that He never makes it to the fight. He was sick. It's gonna be a wild fight Diego Lopez is a fucking assassin. Zell Hubert is an assassin too I was getting ready. Yeah, that's gonna be another He's good. Yeah, who do you like who do you like going that one? I heard old Sahuto talking about Ribbivitz apparently trains at his gym and Obvious is good.

2:25:16He's very good. This is a very fun fight very fun fight There's a lot of like under the radar fights on this card I think it's gonna live up to it. I mean, they got a lot of hype on the sphere and Like the names may not be there, but all these guys are bangers. Here's the question Do they you know how they show like on the big screens? You get to see the fights if you're in the stands Like so you could see things that maybe you don't see are they gonna have it on the whole ceiling That's what I don't think you look it up and seeing shit, you know like then they shit So I've been I've been at I was at the apex all week last week and like it's so secretive like everybody I think they should have the fight on the whole ceiling and then everybody would not know where to put it up Yeah, it'd be getting knockouts and people would need be looking at them Yeah, because if it's way cooler to see if it's the only gonna do it once have the shit on the ceiling It's gonna be two production trucks like the people at home aren't gonna be seeing the whole visual because you know It's produced for that's a very good To they hired another director like yeah, so it's like Like it's just been like crazy smart which they are they should make some kind of documentary or something about the making of this Oh, they probably you know what I mean and and so people get this try to see what was going on inside of there That weren't able to get tickets.

2:26:32I think there's six mini movies that play about the issue of combat sports in Mexico Yeah, yeah, that's crazy crazy. So they spent $20 million on this fucking place. I heard I think what the original budget was 10 and they just went over so Sean O'Malley and Marab is a perfect fight for it. Oh, yeah, I know that neither one of them is Mexican But let that go for a little bit. Mexico ain't not a Mexico. They adopted Marab You fight like a Mexican. He really does god damn that guys gas tank is terrifying He's terrifying because that's a guy that if you empty out early on Marab you got real He's got a chin on he survives apparently so he fucking the Marlin Marlin fight was not And he's the second half of the round he got dropped and he beat him to death.

2:27:24I know Yeah, that's why the second round happened how it did he just beat He took it out of him in the first round. Yeah, Barab is an animal But Marais was like a front runner like no other there you're right first round with Henry Sohudo I thought Henry Sudoho was going to sleep. Yeah, right Dude when when Marlin was in his prime when he when he knocked out Aljo with that switch kick Bro, he was terrifying people forgot. Oh good Marlin. He was good. Good. But he is too big for the weight class too He was another guy then there's no way that was healthy right He was so big for 35 and just It's explosive man He had a Mickey Mouse voice to go with Little firebug with that little boy.

2:28:08What Marlin had that was so tricky was that left high kick off the front leg He did it so slick. It was so fast. Yeah, he was explosive. He was accurate He was well -rounded, but he did the gas tank. I think maybe from making the weight or whatever It had to do with there was a psychological aspects to it too I think there was like something when he was the nail it wasn't as you know He just didn't stand up. He wasn't like Marab like Marab finds a fucking There's a Georgia memory in there some fucking street fight with a goat Keyotic thing on a mountain that happened in his brain forever, you know you got Sean.

2:28:50I'm always saying that he has good Ha Sean. I'm at least as he has no losses. He he points out that Cheeto Vera thing that it's a fluke If you look at Marab's record that fight with Frankie size was a fucking I don't say it often. It's a fucking robbery if you watch that and he and he was just getting over fucking What do you have? Not in the moon. He had something he had lingering effects of something And he still went through that fight. He why don't give a fuck watch that fight. He won that fight And then the other one was with a Simone Ricky Simone. It was controversial because he was in the choke and The rat that ran ended and then he was like half in half out and they're like oh he's out and then so it was a weird Let's see the I haven't seen that.

2:29:32Let me see that Ricky Simone Marab. I forgot about that He's shaking to the end of it and then when it's end of it It's like out but in and out. So it's like it was a weird but he made it to the balance. John shoun on against Zhang Wei Lee remember at the end of the round she was out cold. Oh, yeah, yeah, she was unconscious. She and then it woke her up. Yeah, she's like okay man down it's throwing ice on her What must call us but he won because he was the first guy to wake up. Yeah So there it is Ricky Simone gets him in a guillotine and is the very bad. Oh my god. That's so nasty. Look on ask you that is it's on It's so tight.

2:30:09It's so tight. He's out. He's out right here. Yeah The arm's hanging but he doesn't stop it. He's still shaking. Okay, so he's hanging in there He's hanging in there, but wait a second. So he's not tapping god damn that guy's got willpower. Huh? Look at him. He's not tapping. Yeah, he's adjusting He's not defending with his arms either. This is crazy. He's not even defending with his arms. He's just using his neck He's keeping the thumbs up. Yeah 10 seconds He's still moving his legs I mean that's the horn But now he's like He's breathing. Yeah, what the fuck they stopped the fight. No, no, no, no, you can't say he's out there That's what I'm saying.

2:31:03He can't say he's out of breath. I'll rest in peace. Doctor Sherry. Right. That was the team doctor walk and Yeah, that's kind of crazy. That's fucked up After the fight was over. Yeah, they're after the round was over that side of he was out. Yeah, so I mean so look you could look at his record He protested immediately He was just laying there with his eyes open and it looked like he was out because he was fucking exhausted Like there's no way he would have known if the guy says it's over and he immediately protest It was no way he could have known to protest if he wasn't awake And who was the ref?

2:31:38I don't even recognize him in this so it's like you could look at his record and be like Yeah, this guy hasn't lost the fight. Yeah, there's some you know rafts are human That's a right one now, so it's like it's a bad one And if you look at the fight before that, but that's the robber who Frankie saw he so you can literally look at this guy and say he never lost I mean if you want to well I think all these moments of adversity just Strengthened his resolve anyway, because the guys are monster now The Henry so huddle fight was so crazy when he was carrying Henry so huddle A little kid with his tongue hanging out.

2:32:08I was like this is mad. It was kind of embarrassing I felt man -fander Henry's Yeah, he wasn't just doing it to some guy who didn't belong in the cage with them He's doing it to a two division world champion who's a limp at gold medalist in wrestling and he's carrying around like a pillow And he walks over to Mark Zuckerberg And then he's talking shit while he's choking him Yeah, he was having fun with that. I mean he was having a great old time when he had him in that 10 finger guillotine Bro, that's a nasty spot. That's a nasty. I thought he was gonna get him there with that. Like that's a nasty choke Yeah, I think he's gonna have his night.

2:32:42I think the craziest moment like that though was when Hamza picked up the leech Oh Give me time to shine He's a carry Yeah, he's carrying him over to Dana. He starts fucking him up right in front of Dana. That dude's wild For leech though like leech can't get I mean they just feed him to every Who you just fight leech Carlos protest? Carlos protest He put that guy that that striking was beautiful. Yeah, he's good. He's he's very very very good That guy scary what the fuck did he come from? There's so many. There's so many fighting nerds. Mary is right here. Yeah, fighting nerds man. They got a great team But this guy he's just a fucking killer man.

2:33:35Carlos just knows how to put it on you this need of the body man Was so nasty. Oh Oh see the need of the body before that They didn't have that in that video, but he had him hurt before this, but he's just fucking accurate dude He's all limbs dude. Oh look at that Like There's some good fighters coming up man these kids that are coming up they come into the cage so much better than guys just five years ago I'm so much better. What are getting so much help from the UFC prior, right? You know like especially like if you have like the PI behind you like like a mexico der like sponsored He's got there.

2:34:14There's sponsored. So there's so many videos to watch now. Yeah, that's a big factor Because like when you were coming up you had VHS tape What the fuck are you gonna watch? The nobody got chance to see anything you didn't really get unless you saw them in your gym You didn't get a chance to see like real high level stuff And now guys that have a standard in their head that's way higher than everybody standard from 10 15 years ago Yeah, no doubt about that guys just come in so well around And just start so much younger. Oh, yeah That's and kids you know the UFC is boosted you know wrestling and high schools and junior leagues and things So these they're just more complete like they're comp they're growing up now complete martial artists You know secrets anymore.

2:34:59I don't have a back in a day. We'd be like a new move. Don't show anybody The calf kicks only a few years old. That's what's not bisming city ones whole career I'll kick kicked in the calf me too. Thank God I believe that wasn't around How the fuck did everybody miss that? I know right Benson Henderson used to throw it. Hey, did you study weird? But he never had the kind of results of these guys are having it It's different where to come from like it's more time part of more time They've always done it. It just wasn't done that often because guys check it never never check it And they turn out and you catch it on your foot I think they do it a lot more in more time now though because it's a more time.

2:35:37Yeah, I think everybody would make sense What's going on? Want a lot in glory. You see it now a lot Guys throwing it a lot man. It's so effective. We know it's where like in karate combat Like you can't throw it to the thigh like it has to be a calf kick. That's ridiculous. Yeah It's weird to me. I'm like what? That's really ridiculous. What do you mean you can't throw it to the thigh? It's illegal to kick above the knee Why karate combat? That's ridiculous. That's so much. But the middle of that point of karate That literally makes no sense. Yeah, because what about kielkishen? What about ones where they kick the legs all the time?

2:36:11That's karate too. Not sure why you gonna take out some of the best karate from karate Not sure why that's a rule but you can ground him for like 10 seconds or you can ground him down until you stop Oh, yeah, you can ground him down until you stop and then he break it up leg kick right but you can't Kick to the thigh. That seems crazy. Yeah, that doesn't make sense What's your feeling on that side kick to the knee? Like what Khalil did to Modestus? Hate it No, I don't hate I love it. I hate it. You hate it. Yeah, I think it does nothing but damage a fighter Like people say oh you can knee bar.

2:36:44Well, you can tap to a knee bar. You can't tap to that kick and if you kick lands You're done can't tap to a head kick either. Yeah, I mean whatever you go to sleep you go to sleep That's different to me But some head kicks are probably worse than getting knee kicked You know, I mean Leon Edwards and Camaro If you ask Camaro, you'd rather take a shot to the knee or that shot to the head He might take a shot to the knee I mean you got to defend You had on time like Khalil did. I think I'd rather get kicked in my head That's horrible to watch, but like you got a defender. Yeah, you know, it's not like you can't defend it You got to defend it.

2:37:17It's you remember when Daren Till started using on everybody. He was like one of the first guys using on everybody John Jones Of course, yeah, John Johnson's the he's the guy with it. Yeah, he's so long Yeah, that's a shitty one against I mean you can't really you can't use that Like there's no intention No, you definitely can't do that. Sparring you be taking out your pull imagine I've had guys tell me that they were sparring guys They didn't know and they did shit like that to them side kicks the knees like what the fuck are we now? It's a real nice. Yeah, in a sparring match The guy was telling me about the ATT they bring in some crazy Russians or sidekick in your knees I mean, I don't like that, but they was doing like spinning wheel kicks to the to the head with just hitting you with the heel I'm like, yo, what are you doing?

2:38:00That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy That's so hard to that's so hard if you're in a high level sparring match with a guy where it's like you get an emotional and then you throw a spinning kick It's so hard to like slap them with the foot Why don't you say like you know you wear you wear shin pads for a reason to protect and then but then you're doing a spinning kick where there's no protection Well, that's why gloves are nuts Right because you can knee somebody in the face you can elbow in the face you can shen them in the fucking skull right but you're not For a bit It's got a crazy It's got a great one spard with the new I mean they came later on like the the The gloves that you could then not quite they're not the boxing gloves that the puppies I always use the 16 ounce gloves because I want to be able to fucking throw and I grapple in them But then like you I get in I get under the butt you obviously can't make a grip But then it's that much easier when I can make a grip so like I get in I Glues it but it would help my endurance and when I'm able to make grips I'm like oh when they add the new gloves and people are fucking around with them I'm like yeah, but now we got to just now we're playing I didn't have the luxury I'm fucking five six.

2:39:09I have to triple jab in and fight like I can't play by just I have to throw so I couldn't throw like like realistically with those little gloves right so when I see sometimes There's some people sparring I had one of my girls sparring and And let's go Lauren and she brought another girl and they were doing it with those gloves. I go look next time It you want me to watch this shit you're playing right now. I can I'm not gonna be telling you to fucking Do certain things and throw certain things if you could be playing you're playing it's okay to play a grab I like to grapple in them, but we have to fight so I mean, you know put on some big gloves I mean we did the same thing do you think that there's a time in a fighter's career where they don't have to spar Is there ever a time where they don't have to spar hard?

2:39:51If they clock in enough hours like I guess like max Holloway whoever I was like Possibly, but even Holloway when he's getting ready for Gachi decided to spar You have to you have to simulate the fight as much as possible because you don't want to feel that for the first time in there So the reason why I'm really sparring asking is because like I was watching is he's fight with Dr. and The thing about that fight is that it looks like at the end is he's very tired, you know And he gets clocked like Dr. His catches him with some of those winging punches which he was getting away from or in the earlier rounds And he catches him it rocks him And then he hits him with a couple more right hands against the cage and then immediately gets him in a choke when they go to the ground and then is he taps and I always wonder because that school thought of like the Marmer Interval school thought when BJ was in his prime was those guys were just doing wild plyometrics and cardio and that's it They just like you know how to fight.

2:40:46We're just gonna give you the most fucking insane gas tank You've ever had in your career and if you can get through this crazy camp of doing box jumps and plyometrics and those fucking All those things they were doing with their Throwing with their friend or just systems wild wild shit and Nick Kerson who I talked about it. He's trained on it now They have this philosophy that a fighter like a guy like you or guy like you or you have so many fights You know how to fight you've been there you've done it Which you really need to do for this camp because you're getting ready for a fight is not get injured and have a fucking insane gas tank the flip side of that Most recently and it's not the same thing because the guy could be weathered a little bit Who had that philosophy with Tony Ferguson?

2:41:29You've got it. Yeah, gogons put him now look that's that's Tony Ferguson after Gachi But gogons put him through a fucking cardio sessions I think he's an after gate. He's a different human. Yeah, he's been compromised and I like these gogons, but I don't I mean I don't think he should have been in the corner. I mean you got him in the corner. He owned from the stand I'm not shit on gogons. I like all shit, but he's in the corner going get up Tony It's like it's one of those things where it's like you know no shit agree agree look When it comes to willpower and when it comes to like discipline.

2:42:01There's no one like organs. Mm -hmm But that doesn't matter if you mount him and strangle him Yeah, it doesn't matter you all that I I can never quit you're gonna quit bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I don't know what you sleep. What kind of will you have? Yeah, I gave behind you and put that in there You're going to sleep here and pee your pants. That's how it goes You're a human being you you have neck muscles you have veins that provide all that blood your brain I'm gonna cut that off and if you Can't get all that he needs from a guy like that but you can get something you can get something But Tony at that time was already on a long skid of multiple losses the Chandler knockout He gets front kicked in the face and epic KO loss Mm -hmm gate she fight was horrific and then you got to go before that He blows his fucking knee out backstage.

2:42:50He was the boogie man We were gonna see the boogie man versus could be it was the fight everybody was pumped And then Al steps in on super short I A great fucking account of himself big time very good fight against I was noticed one hour could be in his prime. Yeah I think if it is five rounds. Yeah, bro. I always wonder man If told you versus and just doesn't step on those wires and we get to see that fight my god How yeah, cuz that was Tony Ferguson when he was the fucking boogie man and what everybody was scared of him He was beating the fuck out of everybody Who's the guy to lift them wires there?

2:43:28Hopefully they fired that guy because he wrote his he wrote history. There's always gonna be wires In the camera fall back state. Yeah right before the fight. He fell in his head He stepped on some like loose pipe pipe or something went up in the air banged his head got knocked out Bleeding yeah, everybody's gonna be guessing but like even when he was in his prime like he fought Kevin Lee Kevin Lee got him down mounted him But then he tried on them. He's a triangle But Kevin Lee mountain. You know offense Kevin Lee. It's not like a bee on top of you So I mean is he ever surviving that you got to remember Kevin Lee maybe didn't Achieve his potential, but Kevin Lee choke out.

2:44:07Yes, I remember that Kevin Lee was a mother But he did have his mom he had his mad potential. Yeah, when he knocked out What's his face the wrestler oh? Gregor that's right.

2:44:22That's right Fucking beast man. He just was inconsistent and then had a bunch of knee injuries like severe knee injuries And that's the thing like a fighter's window is only open for so long So you got to try to maximize that right do what you can when your window was open right if you saw fade or fight Ryan Bader You can't you can't judge fade or And that's what we tend to do that. We always do we judge beat that's why I would say BJ because we judge BJ by the end of his career It was like Tony Ferguson. I mean I mean Tony beat that B BJ's was not a good record Great have but as far as how many losses in a row?

2:44:54Yeah So these guys got to throw these guys names in fight past the oldies young kids and see them in their glory days Because that's when you should really watch that yeah But it's that's the thing about fighters is like whatever that window is they say it's nine years at your very best From your contender to your champion whatever you have to fucking redlining I think it's about five really, you know I think it's I think it's shorter than nine. I think it's about five years when you're just like In it like you in it let's get it right now. Yeah Anderson is prime. Yeah, it's like five years of just destruction And then afterward just like I Got it no more also injuries, you know with Anderson injuries was widened.

2:45:33Yeah, why men's left hook? You know that was that was a start of it all. Yeah, why men's left? Oh, that was crazy crazy Same one he landed in your eye a hall remember yep Before you ride a hall was like the next big thing when he was in the ultimate fighter Chris at bottom Looneglia bro, he had a long left hook. Why haven't got that? That extra foot to that hook You know, it was a long hook. I was I was a little stupid. Yeah, go go gadget It's a good hook man because the guys don't think it's gonna be able to reach him and then all sudden it's there pop I'm interested to see him in on Eric Anders.

2:46:11It's gonna be a war. Yeah, cuz Eric's a game. Yeah, Eric is game But memory fought Khalil and didn't even flinch and Khalil was just blasting his legs Talk about being tough enough to take a beating like bro. I asked him about it. I was like what was that like? Everyone hurt Good poker face. He had a best poker face. He just took it. Yeah Just good fights coming up kids some real good fights. Oh fuck. Yeah, I can't wait. I love it I love a Saturday when the fight I hate when there's Just so many fights on every weekend that when there's not one I'm like, oh you know what I'm looking for two more than any Hollow in to puria.

2:46:48Yeah The one for me when is that that's October that's Abu Dhabi right yeah, who gets the one son? 26 that's the one for me because I see that fight. I go. I don't fucking know I love a fight where I hide on fucking no. I know a lot of people would have counted out Him on the gates you fight. I thought gauges gonna beat him insane And now you're giving him a lot of time to prepare and get ready for this fight And then homes on wittaker is that gonna happen There's people now. She's not gonna happen. You know if he's not sick again. Got it. That's called though. It's a great card. It's a good card Jeff Neil, I don't know what that was happening Armand patrosi and then magamette off Yeah, that's some good fights on that card.

2:47:38Yeah They bust out Anybody get at the great card down in that card. Yeah Yeah, go on man. That main event is that main event is so unpredictable like To puria everybody he hits goes night night. I know everybody he hits. He's fucking max is hard to hit very hard On max to the chin and got a guest that new sneaky spinning back kick while he's stepping away Working right that might have been a game change. It's a game changer landed at the end of that first round That he changed the fight change the fight change the fight and it was a skill that he really didn't use a lot earlier in his career Yeah, no and he had it all a sudden dialed in Crazy and it was a hard one to do because he's moving away It's like a hop away spin to the face and talk about a hero Fucking ending to that fucking you can't I don't think there's another fight that ended you wouldn't believe that if it was in a movie right shut up Right shut up with your stupid Clearly ahead he fucking takes that chance of clearly ahead yeah with a guy you know throws hammers Yeah, you know and he's been dropped in that fight already right he got dropped wait And he's planted oh It's just that stuff of legends And the fact that it's for the B .M .F.

2:48:57belt what a perfect right for the B .M .F. belt That's the perfect fight And it's crazy because like I'm sitting right behind you guys and I'm watching you guys is like natural reactions I get such a natural reaction and I know you guys take a lot of shit and they make memes about you guys But watching you do it in those moments is the best thing ever you don't even know what's happening Yeah, I think that was the first fight I ever stood up. I got out of my chair I Could literally couldn't take it. I couldn't take it. I Could I can't be sitting down. I had to stand up Antic too and it doesn't stand up very often either.

2:49:31I don't think I couldn't I couldn't sit down. I was like I can't believe I just saw that I can't believe that was It doesn't seem real Fucking wild man. That was wild Max be giving us a moment I Might be all time favorite myself and Dean Thomas were there not a lot of people there live It was I think it was in Abu Dhabi when he Kavakator and he's looking away The I still gave him the second fight with Volkanovsky So Imagine if he wins and then he doesn't go through this skid You know, and you see all the Calvin cater fight was brutal. He changed Calvin Cater's career Yeah, he changed Calvin Cater's career in that fight.

2:50:14That was a bad beating. It was a bad And it was kind of should have never talked shit to him And this is the apex right? No, this is Abu Dhabi. Oh, that's right. No, but no audience right. That's why Look at daddy's not even looking at him and avoiding all the punches. That's the worst But is the other thing about Max too is that fucking gas tank. Yeah It's a weapon man the volume and the gas tank It's a weapon and that powers legit too And Max seems to be even more powerful at 55 than he is at 45 so but my question is does he maintain that when he gets down to 45 Like how hard's that cut Time it out.

2:51:04Right. So I think it's gonna help him. I hope so I would not want to see him drained at all He's fighting Ilya because Ilya look spoz you Has yet mom? No hands. I know you see the video of him hitting in mitts I saw his even his brother hit like that really I watch his brother hit mitts and I was like god damn bro He hits mitts like a world champion boxer. Yeah I was gonna say we haven't seen the other guy tested Ilya but then again in his days Yeah, he got kicked in he came back like a fucking beast That's something to say in the next round. Yeah, yeah, but Ilya's hands are some of the most impressive hands in the sport is No fat in his technique.

2:51:45No wasted movement. Well, then we'll see who's the best box I say gonna find out this is good Jamie But there's a video that's like recently on his Instagram. That's fucking insane because he's going full clip trying to show off And you get to really like he's working here. It's all good But see if you can find the clip that's on his Instagram page His Instagram has an insane video of him just crack admits we played it on the podcast the other day remember I mean yeah, that's it right there. Give me some volume so you hear the shit Bro, yeah, that's crispy clean Everything no wasted motion, but here's the thing with what Max is Max's movement Max ain't gonna be there for that.

2:52:32Yeah, Max can't be talking. Yeah, tall as fuck. Yeah, yeah And if Max can catch him and hurt him the way Jay Herbert did You know max max something sneaky and you know max is prepping right? Yeah watching that guy like a hawk Does Vokananski have anything else on the radar No, I think they're waiting to see what happens I think I mean I personally like to see him rest a little bit anyway I would 100 % want to see him rest a lot I think after those two you should have to it never taking a 10 days notice fight with Islam never Never never never never don't do it. I don't care how much it's tempting And then immediately three months later you fight to pour you after he gets caled with a head kick that seems crazy You may not wish I mean I thought as soon as I saw that fight it.

2:53:16I was like Are you kidding me man? He was probably you know before that he probably felt like I know I felt it before I felt it. I've seen what's coming You know, I look I don't be grudging for taking that shot I think the second fight was even the bigger mistake because you had just been flatline And now you got to cut back down and go back out there on such short notice right But no other sport would want a champion to go in there and fight for a title with 10 days notice There would never ask me to do that anywhere else You know, it would never happen boxing Never gonna happen million years in boxing for sure never But you know they take away they take advantage of MMA guys because they know we crazy right that's part of it You have all the fighters are still under your control under contract.

2:54:04So it's a bit of a problem That's a bit of a problem and but also Vulcanovsky could have he he had the choice And he's just like he's a warrior savage. He's gonna go. Yeah, he's a savage. We crazy Yeah, and hindsight was a bad idea But in his mind he's thinking this is an opportunity for me to become a legend. Yeah, of course I'm sites always 2020 Of course, of course, it look that's what aspirin all did anyone the title right exactly So had that been different for aspirin all we had to be like you know, he shouldn't have took that fight exactly So like Pavlov that that guy's an animal. Yeah, why is it how's he fighting Pavlovitch with fucking what did he have like how many days Notice that he have it was like seven days notice and a fucked up rib yeah, yeah, yeah It's a wild sport, you know, it's like sometimes guys step in on short notice and it's exciting and they win You know, so it's like You the key is like never get out of shape.

2:54:56Yeah, and I think with Vulcanovsky he was drinking a lot and that was probably more So you saw physically how he looked for the second it looks like yeah, he always looks like a 10 -year -old dad bod instead of him You know looking right. I would never take it back in the day too. I I need my camp I'm not gonna I would never because you peak at the right you should be peaking at the right time So you say when people like well, you should always be fight ready, but yeah, but that's that's Easier said that then you could always be in shape, but that's not fight shape And you don't know that until you're fucking back into sparring then you like I thought abs, but holy fuck I think if you're always about four weeks out like that's probably a bit of the right right And you get 10 days notice you might have a pullout you know Pull that out and if you maintain a respectable level of cardio Yep, but what if you're a vulk and you're drinking getting it?

2:55:45Not again, not a good guy. And then you gotta lose all that fucking weight. Yeah I can't nice to be a fatty between shit You know you when you're staying awake the pizza and pasta for two months you like Well, every fighter says that they develop a eating disorder. How about patty? Yeah, that's patty's patty the baddies That's a real it eating disorder those cheeks on him. He gets you he goes hard. He gained 40 pounds in a week Damn Let's gonna be have one more when he was retired eventually Yeah, he butterbeam Crazy He doesn't proudly too. He don't give a fuck brother Bobby Greenflight was a big deal About his yeah, that's a big deal.

2:56:28I didn't I didn't the way he did that was beautiful man Really making range. Yeah, and I didn't expect Bobby to shoot, but the second he did a patty's got nicer chips Very sharp off his back and the other thing was like you notice how big he looked because Bobby's big Bobby's not a small 55 or you know, it's like damn like he might underestimate how big patty is in 55 He's fucking pretty big And those kicks were good. Yeah, I don't think he's not he's not a bad fighter. It's Bobby's a very good stand -up fighter sure Bobby get his legs lit up that quick That was a big deal. I expected to see him get tested and he didn't want to Got an A plus.

2:57:03Yeah, but do you think he's ready for like the top guys now like do you would you put him in there with an arm and Serookian, you know, I'm saying like I put him in there with the winner of the The Moicano and Saint Denis. Oh, that's good. Yeah, yeah, when I'm more kind of I mean more kind of man put him in there with one of them guys. I would love to see him fight Moicano I like my moccano's been going more with his jujitsu lately. Yeah, oh Moicano's got really good jutsu. I saw him saying I saw him ball up chase super in a grappling tournament. Yeah, oh Barbell and how good is that fucking post -fight interview?

2:57:35Oh Nothing is better than me my fucking money He's funny All the slowly figured it out man, you know some guys figured out like Kobe had to figure it out. He did it his way Everybody figures it out. You figure out you gotta get out a bit. What Way Once you get into famed. Yeah, the second he spoke about Leon Edwards dead father. Oh, it shows you that he's a he's a fucking piece of shit Kobe you're a fucking piece of shit I'm from none of that the I mean you don't talk about poor yeas wife like come on man Well, that's why that's like I'm fine. You want to fight now. Yeah, that's that's why it's so interesting that a guy like prayer Gets as high as he gets with none of that zero.

2:58:24Well, I mean it's puff that you don't need it Yeah, you don't you don't need to cross that line. You just need to fuck people up You don't even speak English. He's got a social media presence there like he shows a sense of humor And you know what I mean on social media. So I think that endears people to him as well Bro, and that thing he did when he kicked the soccer ball and then hit it with an arrow. Yeah, yeah That is to do. Yeah, what would he do? He kicked the soccer ball and then shot it with an arrow So he kicks it. Oh, he really shoots arrows. Yeah, he's just fucking away. No, no, he's really good man He's really good at that guy's right out of the Amazon But he does that kind of archery.

2:59:00I don't even do that kind of archery He I do archery with like releases and fucking everything's like this for Bob He nails it. That's before you beat out of Sonya Listen, give me some volume on this because when he screams imagine being the neighbor in here in this here. He hits it Imagine being the neighbor And then you watch him on pay for view like oh Jesus Christ you can't even complain You can't even say Yes, some guys don't need it. They don't need that extra fucking whatever it is He's got the swag with him is just the stoic warrior coming out and shooting arrow at you and screaming Well, I mean at the end of the day like people are attracted to violence Yeah, and at the end like even Robbie Loner like people love Robbie and he never said he hated doing it in It was a violence did attract the people talking about wars Him and both Rory McDonnell's Him and Carlos Condon oh my god, right him and Melvin Manhoof He was kicking Robbie's legs so bad it was lifting his leg up in the air.

3:00:19He's probably having flashbacks a pizza rat Oh Yeah, I've got about Pete's Brad. She was a good striker very good striker dude. What a crazy time this sport has gone through and all these years Like this fight was so horrible to watch man. These guys were so busted up. I like it look at Rory's nose. It's gone It's just And then it just Like he's gonna take it open his lips. Yeah, his lips hanging off. Yeah, that's this is easy to easily the best fight about Certainly in the Life right see if he knocked out I forgot who he finished Price yeah, first one off to the sunset and he knocked him out without taking a shot.

3:01:04Yeah, yeah, that's so easy I want one more of the right off, but he's gonna be a great coach too, and I'm sure he is But he's also a guy like you want that guy to be proud of you. Yeah, yeah, it's Robbie law Yeah, for sure like there's something to that if you get in coach by a guy like that look at his face man Staying school kids Yeah, you better really know what you want if you're gonna do this for a living yeah, dude And you got to look across and see that's right. Yeah, guys got a fucking Joker So I'm ready to go to war for the fucking final round Should have sick fight. Yeah, shit. We've seen some wild fights boys We're gonna see some wild ones this weekend.

3:01:41Yeah, I'm excited. I don't know what's gonna happen in the main event I know you're partial to marab But I just don't know what's gonna happen. I'm very interested very interested Because pass that first round. It's gotta keep the main coach. Yeah, it's gonna be very interesting He needs one shot. I'm saying marab needs one clinch not to end the fight But you enough damage. I feel like sugar is a better striker than Marlin and Marlin had marab in trouble And that's it gives me pause on the feet like you can only take so many of those Sniper shots from sugar the other thing can he land them and can marab keep keep moving and keep threatening and pressure You know The argument is there's one guy is gonna win by taking him down and smashing him The other guy's gonna win by knocking him out on the feet and we don't you know, we don't know what's gonna play out It's gonna be interesting.

3:02:27It's gonna be fucking phenomenal The thing the other thing that I think uh, yeah that Sean does well like he got Aljo with it is I mean you know Marab's gonna be pressuring because that's how he's gonna he has to beat him Sean took out Aljo backing up. Yeah, you know what I mean? So a lot of guys can fight moving backwards He does have the ability to fight moving backwards He's also a great game plan Tim Walsh have a great relationship they they study shit they find holes You know, they knew that Aljo has this tendency to get like a little over -anxious Charging with his right he was ready for that.

3:03:04I'm just interested to see if he can capitalize because if he can't if Marab can get a hold of him Marab is just a different kind of Wolverine on top. I think he needs one round Motion him in the fence just like where mad like kind of like GSP did with B .J. You know where mad a little bit slow him down a little bit and then you can put the pace on him It's gonna be very exciting some guys are afraid of Extending too much energy on a takedown it Yeah He's not going to and that same energy you felt in the first it's common you're gonna feel in the fence. Yeah, yeah Thousand percent that's what we deal with look I'm not rooting reading from Rob I like I like him.

3:03:39I think he's great. I'm in a gas tank is such a weapon It's not the weapon in the arsenal It really is might be the very important because what's the difference what you know if you can't get out there and apply it and Marab's one of them that he do is it spars up until the day of the fight right I He's made a joke. I see that guy clocking around That was just ridiculous. I'm like, wait, he already did five rounds. Why is he going back? It's insane what he does It's not normal and and uh And again, I think that uh If he doesn't get caught with that perfect shot He's a hard guy to put away and he's not gonna style.

3:04:12He's a little terminator And he also knows this is his big moment. Yeah, that's also the pressure is not gonna He's not I've already When he was gonna fight the pd on pd on and he had that pd on fight before that fight got On the table. I believe we're talking about it He told me Marab's like I don't he didn't until he accepted it like he was like There's so much pressure in this fight. I he goes You know the history between Georgia and Russia. He goes. This is not just a fight for me I if I lose this he was so the pressure was so much It was even country that's different. That's one of my proudest thing when he took that fight and the way he handled it He was different in that fight even the lead up.

3:04:54He's called him a bitch He's dealing with the Russian bully and so when he won that he that was like that was like the title Oh my goodness. That was a wake -up call for everybody in division like he can do that to yon. Oh my god Yon's a strong mother fucker man and and Rob was able to stand with guys like yon and things so he's definitely not He's not definitely not incapable there No, he can fuck you up on the feet too, and that's part of the problem of the guy who's trying to take you down all the time Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then these balls are going your way get off a few but Sean is such a fucking sniper Then he's so agile Switching stances fighting just as good off the left is off the right you can switch stances in the middle of a combination choose angles Is just can he keep that fucking animal off of them and they're both extremely Confident yeah, that's that's what saying.

3:05:48I like when is yeah, I love that shit Yeah, it's exciting. It's it's it's a real clash of styles so many fucking good fights these days man Well a good time to be a fan right fuck yeah, I mean up. We're spoiled. We're so spoiled the most I made him boxes making a little comeback too Yeah, once Javante and Ryan Garcia got it on now it seems like they're starting to make some more fights well the Saudis Bring into money. What do you think of him? They're talking I mean are they really doing canelo for 20 bucks or something you saw what they were saying On the paper view 20 dollars. I don't don't quote me, but the I don't think the prince who runs that Riyad stuff said He's gonna make all pay per views he did dollars because he believes that you know more make it more Exposed at the more people grow to audience.

3:06:39We'd still make money and everybody will be able to watch I wonder how many more people would buy it if it's 20 rather than 70 they might make the money That's I mean, it's what he said and he was talking about the if he said he might cheap for free. Yeah, he said he said if it was that cheap That people would stop pirating that too they might yeah 70 bucks is a lot. It's like isn't 79 Sometimes it's 40 bucks Yeah, I mean, I you know, it's a lot It was 20 bucks. I wonder I wonder how much I mean be interesting to try yeah I didn't know they were gonna start with canelo. Although they were starting with better beef, but I mean that would be And nobody even they were talking about doing that for like 15 Nobody even knows them.

3:07:19They should know these two. I know I mean, they're both six six boxers isn't better be of 20 know with 20 knockouts. Yeah Yeah, but he's 39 watching the fucking box in the beyond I can't watch it after the MMA. I just watched the fights. It's hard to me. I picked my spots I just see Ben Whitaker Ben Whitaker no bedmetic you know Dude who's got that crazy drunken style He's big tall light heavyweight is got this wild style 90 bucks So much for you 20 all Next time it's out there. It's time 20 you can Five art That's a good deal. So you pay for the pay for review and then other fights are 20 bucks That's a good deal.

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