JRE MMA Show #165 with Jiří Procházka

35:53And when there started... Okay, like I said when when on these parties started the level of like it was really dangerous fire and Fire arms and And the cars and fire and it was not safe Then I said guys Okay, we are a man. Let's be mature. Let's yeah, please. Yeah, take it down a notch because somebody could die Yeah, and that's something what you what you have to realize and these these a sense of a looking for a strength these something these true madness like like when I see these this picture of that and and remember me that when I saw that when I came here the JRE logo. Yeah, yeah, the logo.

36:59Yeah, and when I saw it, it remembered me like yes, go through, going through all the time, choose the, choose the hardest way and go through overcome whatever and show you are the, you are the boss. Yeah, and this is, this is it, This is why I came from that place where we are trying to show each other this one. And I try to carry that energy and put it in the calm way to show it in the cage. and that's why the samurai ideas, the Bushido, Codex helping me in that to show you. That's all. I understand. And then you feel that in training in nature and then experiencing the wild and getting it out there, it becomes even more pure because you recognize that all around you is survival.

38:06That's right. Yeah. Thank you. You are on the wave now. Yeah, we're on the same wave. Yeah, so when what year did you start doing this training in the wild? Like I said in 2014 yeah, like I was I started was inspired by by Masuta Suoyama and Then I realized it's not about opponents man. It's about just your body Just about your real your body. How much you can you can rule your body? really, really your emotions, logical state of thinking, to find the way how to not overcome how to rule your breath because this is the way and because this is the most primal think of the body, when the child is born, like, first is breath, everything is like you can settle by the breath in the body, not just by thoughts.

39:19And over the thinking and thoughts is like a great surf, but a bad boss. So it serves you well, but you can't let it control. Yes. So there's a many levels, what you have to rule in your body, what you have to understand, and put it in one way in the present moment. So you had your first fights when you were around 18, 19, and then how long when did you decide that you were ready for the UFC? And how did you make that decision? Because I do know that you were offered fights before, but you said I want more development time. Tell what that was in us somewhere in the center of Between me in my sixth seventh fight in horizon So around the year to To 17 to 18.

40:26Yeah, something something like that and Yeah, I realized that man there is a There is a way in the rising yet. Yeah, so I need I need to know I need to I want to take a title here I want to prove that I'm the king of Japan to rule these guys really and then I can go to the league of the best because if you want to go to the league of the best, better to be prepared for. And I think that happens too often. That's why I can can fight for a title in the in three fights. So I Think boxing has it right and in that boxing that they look at fighters managers look at fighters as an investment So if you are a manager and you have like Floyd Mayweather you don't give Floyd Mayweather the best fight You can get him right away with the toughest guy You want to see how he performs with a guy who's an inside puncture or body body puncture.

41:38He was a brawler. You want to see how he handles a slick guy like a manual gustus with unorthodox movement. You want to, how's he handled Diego Corralis long tall reach and you build them with fighters that you think you got to know when they're ready. And then there's an objective assessment. Okay, he's ready. Then you start moving him into top 10 contenders. then you move into a title shot. You have seen throws you right to the wolves. Yeah, it's good to have these objectives. And if you... I like to be a just a watcher of my progress, of the situation. Think about that, how to plan it, how to see that, not personally, just to see yourself as another person and put it in myself in a way where it will be the best for these targets and then go in and do that.

42:42Yeah and when you you had a very quick rise in the UFC to a title fight so you thought was Volcanoes Demire your first fight? Yeah, so you'd be Volcanoes Demir, then Dominic Reyes was the second fight and then bam Tidal shot. Yeah crazy. So that's the reason to be so prepared. Yes, because if you're successful things go very quickly That's right. You have to be ready when you look at your first fight with Volcanoes Demir and then you look at your fight with Jamal Hill Do you see significant improvement with who first what when you look at your first fight in the UFC when you fought Volcanoes Demir and now you look at yourself now in the most spectacular performance against Jamal Hill Do you see the improvement?

43:24Right now I can say yes. Yeah, because there was a With the walk as the mirror there was just a pure raw power real raw the Aggression aggression, but not so refined. Yeah, yeah, so yeah You can see the fight man there was there was just a pure Chaos I was too much, sometimes it's the self -confident. When you are too much self -confident, it's a bad thing. Because Ego will take you to another line and it will destroy you. It will burn you. So you have to keep that burn, that fire on the control and to give these attacks, these aggressive aggressiveness in just a small... to keep it under control just now.

44:32Yeah, I like what you just said that Ego will take you to another line. Man, it's good to have it. We can't live without in this world with collaborations, with collaborations, and talking relationships. You can't live without, but also you have to cultivate that. So there is a two worlds like without in life. So you have to go in. Yeah. They have to be working together the mind and the ego have to be working together and they the no mind This then that's right. Yeah, the floor Yeah, and the ego will take you out of the flow Yeah, the ego like I'm gonna Well, fuck him up and then boom you get hit Yeah, I like what you said though about it takes you out of the line because it takes you into a different line It takes you in a different line of fighting and then Sometimes in that line you'll realize you're out of place You realize you're leaving openings that shouldn't be there and you're trying to force.

45:36Yeah, good force. Yeah, force and power. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And good, when you said like, when you realize that it's bad when you don't realize. Yeah. And sometimes it's good when you have the people around you to to man. Bring you back. Bring you back. Yeah. That's why I'm sometimes really glad for my team, my people around me to keep me back. That's what's amazing about having a coach who knows you, having trainers who know you. They know where you're at, like, come down, come down. Everything's great, but you're hitting the gas too much. Like, so be a little more technical, move around more.

46:12Yeah, but not too much. Not too much, not too much, right? That's right, because sometimes is that these wildness do the aggression to take over. Like, it's too necessary, but. Well, that's what I asked you after the fight. I said, there's something about you where you thrive. you get better when it's chaotic. It seems like you relish in the chaos of these wild exchanges. It's very, because sometimes fighters like to piece people up or they're not getting hit. Like Jamal Hill's really good at that. Like the Glover to share a fight here, a fantastic job of utilizing his game and his accuracy and reach and he just put it on Glover.

46:51But they don't want to be in these wild exchanges. You seem to want to be in these wild exchanges just because you thrive then. Yeah, that's right. That's right. And sometimes it's, I don't know where, where is the, where is this? To keeping yourself and the control is going from. Sometimes it's going from the fear to be not hit. Sometimes it's going from to be careful for the takedowns. And but I want to be like fearless in that. Like to stay behind, stay before the opponent. and have no fear, no, you can go as close you want to care, as close you want and try to hit me and you will not hit me because I'm here and I feel you, I got you.

47:39So I can explain it and I don't want to explain it. I want to show that in a fight. Right. So I know what you're saying. When you, one of the things that we were talking about, Daniel and I were talking about what we were doing in the commentary was your head movement was so good. It was different than before. It was like at another level. Like what specifically had you done to prepare that made your head movement so much better? This episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery. Actually have some Buffalo Trace cigars here they just sent me. One of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years.

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50:05And it's about the feeling, the opponent, the field opponent, but not be, but to not be, how to say, to not let this feeling to push you in some way, you know, understand to feel the space, but still be calm, be unshakable, and you can feel the Then you can feel the space around you, everything, and whatever will move right now. You will react for that and naturally, because you will feel all these things like yourself, like everything is you. And then you can step to the level, I am everywhere. because there is no different between me, this thing, this thing, the opponent, but still, and that's sometimes why I need to be a little bit hit, to feel the aggression back to the fight, that was before the UFC, and I was needed to get hit because I felt the movement, the right movement, everything was right, but I also needed to be more aggressive to once it's to go through the opponent.

51:47Because I was too nice for them, just show them I can sleep and I can move everything, you can't hit me, but this is not the fight, the fight is still unspoken to catch him in the right moment. So, yes, to be here and now, to be, like I said, to be everything, but still, to not be pushed by these feeling, like to be so nice, not too much aggressive, but something in the middle of still control that it's all about control balance yeah I like what you said like that there's no difference between you and your opponent like you're not even you just in this flow of movement and life and this thing you're you're choosing to do there's no difference in you and them you're not you don't even exist you're just a part of it all yes and the bad is bad for fighting is when you really realized we are doing this, we are fighting each other and right now I'm going to hurt other person and you don't see a really the difference between you and him so you know you are doing to yourself.

53:16but this is the game what we chose and we are here to have a fun so not just have a fun to to leave these experience. To live this experience and an extreme experience that will teach you about yourself like no other experience. If you want to learn about yourself go fight. You'll really find You can bullshit yourself all you want, but until you fight. That's right. And when you go through a loss, like the loss is to parrera, what is your process of evaluating what went wrong and how to change things? What's wrong? Yeah. What's your process? What do you do when you lose a fight? And then you come back, like, what is your thought process?

54:10What do you say? I have to learn. I have to figure out what went wrong. Let me... After that last, last, the second fight, first time I can, first time in my life, I realized that, man,

54:27that was really like... I would not say what was that, how hard it was because I didn't like it. But it was something what I didn't experience yet. not like till till now. So that time I really realized how powerful the meditation and this true self -talking with how the true meditation look like because I have no other chance, then the start, stop doing a bullshit, stop doing just pure inspirational training in the garden, stop doing all these things and start doing just things what really matter, what can, what have to a real effect, how you can feel, how you want to be, and yeah, the power of true, self -talking, power of true, overcoming the mistakes in the life, and be the both of your mind, because sometimes it's...

55:59Sometimes it's Yeah, it was it was the next level. Yeah, very difficult to recover from a loss like that But you yeah because especially when you lost like That was that was bad. Yeah, that was for me like I have to say like like a man who likes the honor and and all these all these codes like from Bushido more or more like that was something was for me really bad. He gotcha. Yeah yeah that's how close man. Yeah you say like you can say it like that but I really work on every every move every thought every catching every move in the inner fighting and now this happened. That was not me. That was really...

57:04It was me, but man, you showed yourself, you're worst, you're worst to the world, man. But then you came after that and showed your best. So this is the thing about overcoming a loss like that. I said I'm sure it was awful, but because of it the pain that you felt from it caused you to rise to another level That's is what is life above. Yeah Yeah, I'm still yeah, you need the challenge. Do you need the tongue Po, you know? Yeah, no, no that's yeah, that's right and

57:41And How I see these worlds and this is what what I wanted to speak with you What is here right now the true challenges in this world, in this age, in a human's life, in a like, what is there? Because how I see that, there is not too much, think what we, not too much, there is a lot. but still we can go right now, we have to go to another level because there is too much of the of the of the comfort life of the people because like that you can have the food like that you can have a drink a massage everything so there is There is no price, like I see, in the young people, what they want to pay to achieve something, really achieve something because...

58:49Yeah. They just want things handed to them. That's it? Yeah, this is an entitlement error because things are very easy. When things are easy, it's very difficult to develop character. That's why for young people, I always tell them you should choose to do something hard. choose to do something hard for your human development, for you as a human being. Because if you just live your life in comfort, you will have a terrible life. Yeah, I think, and only one reason, only one thing what I realized, like, maybe, the one thing, the step up will be like, take out two steps back and understand the true life.

59:29I think so. I think we'll realize that the people that live this way are living disastrous lives and people will learn from that mistake because This level of comfort that most people have is very new Historically, it's very new in human history. There's never really been a time where the poor people were fat That's right. This is a weird time. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, the poorest amongst us have no worries about about starving to death. They're in America, they're fat. It's more common than not. I think some crazy number of people in this country are obese. What was the number? It was like 60 % of people are obese?

1:00:10Something crazy like that, which is just nuts. And it's too easy. It's too easy to exist. And I don't mean it's too easy. Like you don't have to work. And I'm sure everybody has to work in your work sucks. It's hard and you gotta get up every day. but physically you have to do something to test your will and your discipline and if you don't you're gonna have a shady life. That's right. That's right. And you won't be able to control yourself in situations where they require you to stay calm. I think right now it's up to like it was in every culture up to the old, older, older people to teach the younger, to real life, to tell them, like, to simply tell them the stories, listen the stories, live the true life, man, because we are forgetting for all these things, because we have the phones and this is the fake lives.

1:01:05It's a fake life. It's a fake life and it's bad for you. It's bad for your development. It'll hinder your potential. Like whatever you want to do in life, if you want to be an artist, if you want to be musician whatever you want to be an author it will hinder your development if you live the comfort life and okay so yeah this is it yeah and how you how you see the like in a 10 years in the 50 years in 100 years what's the next step for the not good I'm right now I'm I'm trying to to lead you in some way but no this is your podcast so I'm curious I'm curious about that because I'm I'm trying to, this is my, this is my true motivation, the human evolution, the evolution of myself, how to fight better, how to overcome the opponent better, how to show him that I am everywhere and you have no chance around me, please keep, hold your head down and tell the other I'm the winner.

1:02:17You know this is like my ego right what wants this but the way to this there is but still in some humble way humble way to show it like peacefully show it show it like so violence peacefully yeah That's it. Yeah, um it was nice seeing you and Jamal Hill out after the fight having a drink together. That was nice to see. Yeah, I I bought him the like my original drink what I'm drinking the vodka vodka soda lime and I told him like We fight together. We drink together. Let's go let's go for that Yeah, because man, we are everybody we are we are one in the end. Yeah, there is no enemy even if you even with with your the baddest enemy of the world.

1:03:20Man, it was a good life. It was a good fight. Let's drink together. Let's celebrate together. That's all. Was it cool? Was it cool hanging out with him? That was that was cool. That's something was. was what I like to do with my opponents, whoever won, love, you win, you lose, whatever. That's great. It's always nice to see that one thing that people really do love about a great fight is afterwards when the guys hug. But still, still, I don't like to speak about opponents in some way, in some better way, before the fight and after fight, change it. Like it does not exist. And right now we are the friends and everything good, man.

1:04:11Please. Yeah. Let's be honest, you talk a shit about me. Talk a shit about me. Okay, so you are the motherfucker, but it doesn't matter. Let's drink together. You are who you are. I am who I am. Let's drink. But stay honest. Right. Man that energy man. Yeah, yeah because that's that's why I like to keep Same word same attitude before the fight In the preparation and after the fight in the fight after the fight all the time like the same that's me Yeah, and I want to show me not me before and me after Right, there's a lot of guys just for the sake of promotion. They talk a lot of shit and they're just trying to stir things up and make the fight more exciting by insulting people, insulting the families.

1:05:07Yeah, and it gets very ugly. And I think the audience turns on them over that. And one of the things that's shown with your success and your popularity and guys like Alex is that you don't even have to speak English. Like it doesn't matter if you kick at I mean if it doesn't matter You could talk all the shit you want get everything hyped up What really matters is how you perform inside the octagon when you perform inside the octagon like Alex has like you have It doesn't there's no need for shit talking It's you people love you and they love you just by the style of your fighting and you're expressing You're soul inside that cage like who you are as a man inside that cage You don't have to talk shit about someone's wife or all that crap.

1:05:53Yeah, that's that's why many people around me like my manager team tried to be more More focused for a promo and all these things and man The fight will do the promo. This is the main thing of everything not selling these things, these things, these things, giving the main thing is the... The fight. The performance. The performance. That's what kind of drives me crazy about when championship level fighters have to do a lot of promotion before the fight. I'm like, man, leave that guy alone. What's really important is how he's gonna perform. If you want to promote it, have a bunch of people like me or you know Daniel Kormey or Chailsana have people talk about the fight.

1:06:44Heip the fight up. You don't have to bother this guy at 7 o 'clock in the morning and talk to him for an hour about some fucking nonsense. That's what I like. Lean alone. Yeah, that's what I like on UFC. They are focused for performance. That's great. Every time and no talking before no one fight, other fights, no special promo before the like afterwards. Do interviews like right now afterwards, relax. But when leading up to the fight, the most important thing is that you're 100 % prepared and anything that distracts from that should be eliminated. That's right. That's right. That's right. And yeah.

1:07:19And many, many, many fighters are, yeah. Yeah. Like focus for. Yeah. Still there's there. There are things about shit talking that I do like. And what I do like is that first of all, it gets a lot of people excited about it, which makes me happy because I want more people to watch the sport. But also, there's a psychological aspect, especially Conor McGregor. He's so good at talking shit that he gets people so angry that like when he fought Jose Aldo for instance, like no one had ever treated Jose Aldo anyway other than with respect. He was one of the greatest champions. He's an elite fighter.

1:07:59He defended his title multiple times, destroyed his division, but you could tell that all that shit talking from Conor had an effect on him emotionally. And I think his ego made him go out of line. So he ran right at Connor and tried to hit him and Connor stepped back and cracked him. He was so energetic. So now imagine if instead if Jose Aldo fought that fight And dragged it into the fourth and fifth round. Yep, and started using the leg kicks that he used on your right Favour and started like picking apart from be careful in the beginning but stay inside the game plan. Stay inside your fight the best of your ability.

1:08:38Don't get emotional. They're kind of in a very different fight. That's right. But that's the weapon, the weapon of shit talking. Yeah, and especially if you know how to use that. Oh yeah, he uses it better than anybody. He gets people so mad. That's right. That's right, but it's still a big weight. It's a big weight what you need to, what you need to have, what you know how to have. that. Yeah. Well, it's also that big weight weighs on you as well. It doesn't just weigh on your opponent. When you talk a lot of shit, it puts extra weight on you. And it gets like that can get you out of line. Yeah.

1:09:15That the the the additional pressure. You might hear the audience boo when they introduce you. Like, oh, shit, what have I done? Yeah, that's right. Not everybody has this this big self -confident to to to keep that. Yeah. It's it's an interesting aspect, but I don't I don't like it. If I've had to choose one way or the other, I would say just fight. There's no need to talk shit. We should behave like martial artists. You know my attitude about that is a true self -confident man, a true man who overcome and understand his body, his mind, his opponent's mind and body and his mind don't need to, That guy don't need to talk shit, doesn't matter to show that to others, to the crowd, or to fear the opponent.

1:10:16Because why? I know that and all I don't need to To to make a these show to anybody because I know it I know what what what will happen I have this self -confident so the thing about talking shit though It does make you more money because it does it does cause more people to pay attention Like a good example of someone who doesn't need to talk shit but talks a lot of shit becomes successful is Gordon Ryan. You know Gordon Ryan, that's his belt up there, that's his Abu Dhabi belt. Gordon talks a lot of shit and he's the greatest of all time. And he still talks a lot of shit. That's him. But that's also why he's so popular is because like people talk shit back to him and there's a lot of back and forth on social media.

1:11:03But the most important thing is to be him, to be not like to play to be right, right, right, right, to be true yourself. When you are like that, okay, be a bad guy or whatever, but just show yourself that's it. Who are you for real? Express who you are in there. You might not even like who you are after it. That's right. Yeah. So a lot of guys, that aggression, especially after loss, it leads them to a place where they're like, I don't even like how I behave. I don't even like me, especially with the bad feelings of a loss. So when you have all this aggression and shit talking and then a loss and a bad loss and you have this feeling of like I was an asshole and I lost and the crowd cheered when I lost.

1:11:51Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. But that's the game they play though. That's the game and this is something what what is for me I can't forget life for myself because I want to show really true myself so I can't talk shit and yeah you gotta be yourself yeah that's me yeah you can't especially now if you try to become an asshole now everybody would be confused like what's going on if you took a heel turn I am asshole but so so big one so I need to keep myself like so straight so I can't do that because that will be just like I said eagle line I will show you just this one line no I need to show you the center yeah right you need to be pure you need to be you with no bullshit and that's how you perform at your best so after a fight like this there was a lot of spitting this is I brought back to the Luke Thomas video, he was saying like you could be the middleweight champion.

1:13:06Like if you made 20, you fought it 208. Like that's a lot lighter probably than Drekas II plus C. Drekas is huge. I look at him. I was like how does Drekas make 185? He's so big. Have you thought about that? I know there was some talk about that at one point in time. Yes. I thought about that. But the main thing for me is right now I see the way in light heavyweight because I'm this one of the strongest guy in this division and I still feel like there is a way in light heavyweight. And I said to myself like okay you can go to the middleweight but first show the consistency in light hair weight, take a belt, then you can, with a belt from light hair weight, you can fight for the belt for me the way, in the mean way.

1:14:03To be a double champion. Yeah. So, yeah. Well, you know, it's interesting because weight cutting is, in my opinion, the worst aspect of the sport. Josh Barnett was just talking about this. He was on the aerial hallwani show, and he was talking about the dangers of weight cutting. in reference to Armand Sorukians having to pull out of that fight. Armand is big. He's big. When I stand next to him, I cannot believe he makes 155. He's very muscular, very dense and very lean. And so for him to make 155, it must be an absolutely brutal way cut. I gotta think he weighs 180 easy. Maybe more. He's big.

1:14:44And I think off when he's out of camp, I bet he weighs closer to 200. I mean, he's fucking thick man. Why did he do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? Why did they do that? and one of the problems that he faced was that the fight was very early Australia time so that it could be on paper viewing America. So he was getting ready at 5 a .m.

1:15:27So he did not have the time to recover from the weight cut from the previous day. Okay. So instead of having a full 24 plus hours. So if you're weighing in at 10 o 'clock in the morning now, is it what time do you weigh in? What time did you weigh in in Los Angeles? Eighth in the morning. Okay. So eight in the morning and then you have a full 36 hours plus before you fight Which is plenty of time to recover and rehydrate But he did not get that with the Volkanovsky fight and you saw it in his performance He didn't look as good okay, and cuz he's fucking big man Yeah, so he's I think weight cutting should be eliminated I said this to aria manual when they first bought the UFC.

1:16:05I said listen man. You know, we should do get rid of weight cutting To stop it with it. It's not look if you can randomly test people for drugs you can randomly test their weight. Show up with the scale. Hey buddy, step on the scale. You're 190 pounds. How the fuck are you making 145? You know, like do something like that. And come up with more weight classes. There should be a weight class every 10 pounds. This idea of these giant gaps, like 185 to 205. That's a 20 pound gap. That's huge. That doesn't exist in boxing. They should have every 10 pounds. 85, 95, 205, 225, and then unlimited. instead of 265, let him weigh whatever the fuck they weigh.

1:16:44He's got giant guys out there that can't fight in the UFC because they can't make 265, which is kind of crazy. Bigfoot Silver when he was at his prime, when he was saucy, he was like 300 pounds. He was fucking huge. So I like the way that open weights, man. Yeah, yeah, open weights, not 265. Let Francis and Gona weigh whatever the fuck he weighs when he doesn't cut weight, probably weighs like 290. instead of having weight cuts, just take the champions, find out what the champion weighs. Like don't get rid of the championship belts, find out what is Islam Makachev weight? Islam Makachev is a UFC champion, best pound for pound fighter on earth, find out what he weighs.

1:17:25What do you weigh if you were healthy, if weight cutting didn't exist? Would it be 185? Okay, 190? Whatever that is. That's how you fight now. And we're not gonna weigh you in the day before and let you rehydrate. That's crazy talk Fight people your size and and also the fights would be better because too many guys get depleted horribly by these way like Max Holloway said he would never make one 145 again after fought Ilya to poor you so I can't do it anymore because he had gone up to 55 He got thicker and then he went back to 45. He's just drained. He just wasn't himself. He didn't look good.

1:18:02Yeah, so So I think that would be, and I know this is not an easy thing to do, but I do think it's just like getting steroids out of fighting. When they brought in Usada, when Usada came in, you saw people's physiques melt. You saw people that were doing steroids on a regular basis and gaming the system and testing negative on the day of the fight, but all throughout their camp, they were using. You saw their bodies change. They had started looking like Doey and Flaby because they didn't have any test to us for anymore. They had fucked up their endocrine systems. Instead of allowing that, they brought in Yusada and Yusada started randomly testing and a lot of people fell off.

1:18:43Great champions fell off. Guys like Vitor Belphins fell off. Great, great fighters who when they were using were unbelievably good but then as soon as they had to be natural. Okay, so we realized that we're gonna have to sacrifice some fighters for that. This is the same approach that should be made with weight cutting. Weight cutting should not exist. It's terrible for you. It's unnecessary. It's not necessary. It's just sanctioned cheating that we've done forever. If you're telling me that Alex Pereira, when he fought, is there a lot of sign up? He weighed 185, one day, and 226 the next day.

1:19:22That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. It's crazy. It's not a slight against Alex because Alex is willing to fight him. He's willing to fight him. What he weighs. It should weight cutting is something that exists. It's sanctioned. They allow it to happen. They know what's going on and it's cheating. That's right. They're not really 170 pounds. That guy's 195. He's depleted and dried out and then he's going to swell back up again and he's going to look huge the next day. Everything is evolving. So yeah, they should evolve that because for the safety of the fighters for the safety of the fighters It's not good to dehydrate your brain 24 hours before a cage fight.

1:20:02That's right. It's dumb Yeah, but nobody's gonna listen to me nobody listens to me. You're nobody. Maybe after this. Yeah I don't think they should even have cages. I think it should be an open floor Mm -hmm I think you should be an open floor like a basketball court. Yeah, because I think it's the best The cage allows you to get up when you wouldn't ordinarily be able to get up You can walk walk walk it the cage allows someone to press you up against an unnatural object There's a cage there so you can press a guy up against a cage Whereas if you're standing in the center you could do more tight sweep You could rotate around each other there'd be more action the more movement That's right.

1:20:40I also think if someone takes you down at the beginning of the first round at the end of the round You're on your back you start that second round in the same position Yeah, you see that like yeah, I have the similar similar of the of the fighting First I thought like where why there is a rules why there is a Gouching I I pokes is not allowed so I'm glad for after these last five days It's very effective man. Yeah, but yeah show all your weapon of your body how you can defeat these men. That's all. One against one. That's all. Yes. One against one. That's all. And the minimal amount of rules possible.

1:21:28You know another thing that I think they should do, and I'm going to talk to Dana about this this week, cover the fingers. There's no reason to have these fingers exposed. It doesn't help anything. It doesn't help grappling. You never grapple like this, right? You never You never use the fingers. No, no, no, no, no. You do this or you do this or you do different things with your hands, but your fingers are always closed. Still the feeling, still the feeling. I understand, but the problem is the pokes because everybody does this because you used to sparring with gloves on. So I love the poke, I poke.

1:21:59Man, everybody, you know what will happen? Everybody will be more prepared for I poke. for no for I post for every possible attack for an eye because eyes is the weapon too for my it's a vulnerable yeah I can I can speak about that because I'm using that like I see mm -hmm so I know what you say maybe it maybe it's weird yeah man the problem is you don't want people to go blind like Michael Biss being can't see out of his right eye yeah you know and that I just I feel like yeah for the sake of the athlete future everybody will took every fucking Sorry every every Fight every fight so seriously so preparation will be so and every People in the crowd will watch that with the man in this fight There can happen something what after that fight we will not can nobody can change right right So we will like the fighters, we will speak better, perform better, train better, be prepared to die.

1:23:14Right. And not like just in our mind, just to die, to show the best performance. Like, I mean that philosophically. like you have to stop thinking and be in the moment and all these things. But like... But that's what we are right now speaking like about ancient fights. Like about the fight for the life. Real fight. Yeah, real fight. Yeah, no rules at all. Do you think maybe get rid of cups too and allow kicks to the balls? That's real. It's a real target. It's a vulnerability of the human body to ignore vulnerability of the human body. It sounds weird, especially in this age of the full of laws and all these things.

1:24:07That's how I see that. We are living in the age where the laws is worth laws and the system is working. so we put the we have to put some some system on the fighting too. Right. Eddie Bravo actually came up with an idea. It was he was joking around but he wanted to call it ultimate sack fighting where you would allow to kick a guy on the balls and that your balls would be exposed. So it was like when the balls are in play the game changes and the idea was that like your balls are so vulnerable. But yet you cover them like a tie cup you know and that if they didn't if the balls were hanging out like your you know chin is hanging out that it would change everything.

1:24:51Yeah. Yeah. He was just juggerows very funny that the guy would win would just have like iron balls. Yeah. But nobody has iron balls. I mean the human body has the the eye pokes and ball shots. You didn't see you didn't saw the the the monks. Yeah. How they how they kicking. Yeah. I don't understand that. I think they just hit each other in the tank. I think their balls are tucked up. I think otherwise it doesn't make any sense that you could just slam your foot. Because also the way they're doing it, the monks, they're kicking up, they're kicking up. So they think they're just slamming their shin into their, instant into the tank.

1:25:28It's not really the balls. Like if you front kick that monk in the balls, just front, just snap, front, it would fall down dead. He'd be like, ah, I think I'm gonna tie your iron balls. Nobody has iron balls, nobody He has iron eyeballs either, you know? The problem with eyeballs is, yeah, these guys. Yeah, see how he's doing that? He's getting kicked in. He's getting kicked in. Yeah, he's getting kicked in the tank. His balls, I can even see the way his sack has pulled up. See that little thing that he's got on there? But still he's right. Yeah. He probably has little balls too, unfortunately.

1:26:01Yeah, it's stupid. Either way, that's stupid. If that was the only way, like if you could train that way, And you know like a lot of the ties they kick banana trees and kick sandbags And we have a sandbag out there. It's so brutal to kick But if you do that enough you'll develop those micro fractures on your shins Yeah, and it'll make your shins much tougher. You can't make your balls tougher. Yeah, you can't make your balls tougher Yeah, I think there is no no No Ah, I just punch it himself with a dick Reason to Ridiculous is this so ridiculous this guys you take oh no Oh, no don't do it. Oh God He's kids slam the nut for a log.

1:26:47He's got to send each other the balls But again, I think if you step to one of those guys and front snap kicked him right in the balls and then it fall down This is stupid You know, whatever, real life's been in, so the like, a lot of masters of, a lot of masters of these kung fu, doing these weird stuff and all these things. So there is a way to like, about obsession of the, of the martial arts, of the, doing something in, in your life to the deepest level. Mm -hmm. But still, this is a fighting. Yeah, about this is about the win. So I Don't know if this Will can and can will help you to really defeat the no, no, especially this is just defense.

1:27:41Yeah Okay, so you are the preferred prepared to defense your your boss and So man, really think about it like in real don't give it too much on this side of an art of the like just doing it's good to know one thing, one two, really, really deeply So you can time that timing that in every situation to know how to do this movement in every situation, but these movements. They're not in effective use of your time. Yes. Yeah, it's not going to help you be a better fighter. There's a lot of ancient movements that are probably good for the development of your consciousness and they're probably good overall for your ability to be a better martial artist because they teach you certain movements, which are almost like a form, like kata.

1:28:43A lot of people talk about forms and they say it's a waste of time, but I think it's a moving meditation. I used to think it was a waste of time when I was a young man. Everything is. When I got my black belt, I just learned the kata's and then afterwards I forgot the novel. As soon as I just learned them so that I could pass the next test, and then once I knew all the forms and the kata's, I didn't care anymore. I just wanted to fight. So like that. But all these moves are written in your body, Maybe you don't realize that yet, but in a harder situation, maybe one move will jump up and bomb. Because you've trained your system with all those things.

1:29:27Like the Neo in the Matrix. I know the Kung Fu. They think they're going to be able to do that now. I was just reading an article about that, and they were comparing it to Neo in the Matrix. I think they're going to be able to download skills into people's brains. Man, it's... What sucks? No. It sucks because... I want him to learn the way you learned. I think, no, man, there's a... The ego, the force. The force. We will do that by... I will take it. And there it is. Demetri. It has to be true. Demetri, hey. And instead of like to take a take a find a real snake and Whatever I I kind of did describe describe on the snake So I know you're saying let's train those movements so when the punch comes you block you counter No, no, that it's in your mind You will take some information and by the force you will give it in in yourself to I don't know which form you meant.

1:30:36Like the way they're like the matrix we spoke. Let's Google that because they were, Jamie will find the article. Maybe like Elon Musk had that. Neural link. Neural link or something like that. I don't think it was that invasive. I think it was some other technology that they think they're going to be able to utilize. Scientists use matrix style learning to write skills into human brains, see non -invasively. So they don't have to inject anything, put up a wire in your brain. Techniques use real -time brain imagery and neurofeedback. It bypasses learning processes that require effort, study or practice.

1:31:15With our method, not only can we nudge complex patterns around in the brain towards known ones, but also for the first time, right directly a new pattern into the brain and measure what effect that has on a person's behavior. So Dr. Coraline Lourden, lead author of the study and assistant professor of brain and cognitive sciences at the University of Rochester. That's crazy. Okay. And this is the one one side. The second side, how I'm looking at how I'm taking that is about, right now I have have no antenna. But it's not about just about the hair. It's about to be open, to be connected with the consciousness.

1:32:03And there, I don't know how it's working, but it's working to be just connected for all the information, what's, what ever happened and will happen, is there in this moment right here right now and it's just about the state if you are if you can be really connect for that because I don't know where many moves I didn't rehearse them I didn't trained they just came out they just came out and in the fighting in the fight and I don't know I don't know where and I didn't train spinning elbow never really never man really I didn't train that never and just follow your side I'm just there I just following the flow following the movement because there is a one elbow okay you have to and it's going really slow.

1:33:08You have a second. Here it is. Yeah, you have the second element. Use that boom, boom. And between one and second one, there was a long conversation of you can do that. Try to do that. Okay, I don't believe that. No, do that. Please. And this was such a phenomenal exchange. People love that antenna too. They love that crazy hair. Are you gonna bring that back? I liked you like this. Yeah, I streamed line. I'm worried about that antenna. Like that could get caught in something. Do what? It could get caught. Like if you're in a submission situation and you know people grab shorts, I don't think anyone should wear shorts.

1:33:51I think you wear tights. Maybe I can grab it like in some choke. You could. Yeah, you could. You know what? You could and it would be legal. Dominic Rez caught me in a guillotine in guillotine and I was there and I said, my Fuck my I have the hair big fucking hair. I can't can't give the the heads up So yeah, that's what I'm saying. That was the problem. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, I think shaved is better for you But it looks cool and that's what I'm saying Like it's not about right right now. I feel like it's not about hair. It's not about Anything is just about to to love to say, to be there.

1:34:34Be here and now. That's all what. No bullshit. Just be in the moment. Especially right now. You have all this momentum on your side because of that spectacular victory. So you must be very energized right now. You must be really feeling like you're on the right path. Yeah, but still this is this state and this feeling have the two sides. Yeah, so that's why I Because I know how it is to be a champion. How is this all these feeling and still? how is What is the do not be the champion to really lost like like a like a shit? Fall on the ground like a shatter and so So I realized that it's about to be just here and now, to be just here and now in this moment and show through yourself, not playing, not you don't do stupid shit, don't have the warrior be angry, be no, just be.

1:35:50That's it. Show your true self. That's all and that's what I like on on the states on America like they everywhere like they are They are okay with that to show yourself through yourself and we in Europe We have some special special thinking about America there's like there is something something better than something better than everywhere and you and you here just pushing more to everyone to just live through yourself and maybe I'm wrong. No, you're right. But freedom. This is freedom. Fuck, man. Freedom allows you to be your best self. Yeah. And this is something what, man, what is for me, so inspirational.

1:36:50But still, it's a gift, a big gift, but a big, I would say, big weight. Yes, big responsibility. Responsibility.

1:37:13Yeah. So right right right yeah with great power comes great responsibility. Yeah where You you sit right now at the top of the heap like after Uncle I have especially after that performance It's very likely that either you or a lot of people Forgetting about Yombo Hovitch always like to give him his props because the Yombo Hovitch is still one of the best fighters in the world And I would like to see him get another shot because he's also 41 or 42 I think now and you know he doesn't have much time left in his prime. Yeah, and the yon has maintained like even at 40 years old still Doesn't show any signs of deterioration.

1:37:53That's right. Um When I thought about opponent my next opponent There was just like these guys on Calive Pereira the Pereira most but Let's see himself how the negotiations will be the Pereira and Calive and maybe the Bacowicz. So these street guys I see still there I see the challenge. Yes. The challenge because I want to go somewhere where I will feel I can because every time when when there is a challenge there is a new you and there is a new something new what you need to overcome, what you need to rule, what you need to observe. Yes. They're the elite level of the game. You know, Jan Bhovich, he's one of the, I think the only gods to go the distance with Pereira other than Bruno Silva, right?

1:38:54Because he had the hands up. Also that guy's made out of iron. I mean, I never forget to fight with Uncle Live when he was just going to shin the shin with Uncle I have and Uncle I have could barely walk. Yombo Hauvich is made out of rocks man. That dude just, I thought like he won that fight, but very close, very close fight, but you could definitely see giving it to Yombo Hauvich. There's a lot of those fights. Here's another thing that I think should happen in the UFC. I think we need more than three judges. I don't even think that the judges, some judges are very good. I think the judging in California was very good.

1:39:28I think overall, I think we need at least five judges. I think three is too little. I think we need, because there's too many times where two judges get it wrong. And the crowd is like, what the fuck? I think if you had five judges, then you have two judges that would counterbalance that other, and there'd be three, two in the right direction, and you would get a good result. I think you're more likely to get a good result, an accurate result of what the fans and the experts see about the result of a fight, than you would if there was only three judges. Or fighting, they'll win. Yeah, fighting to win.

1:40:01Well, that's the mean what Gordon likes to do Gordon Ryan likes to do is no No time limit fights. He does no time limit fights with no points like we're going to submission This is what this game is about is a bit me strengthening you. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Imagine that if they started doing the UFC like the old UFC like UFC one no rules maybe for somebody it will be a little bit

1:40:30Mm -hmm Yeah, yeah, that's fighting. Yeah, that's fighting people watch baseball. Yeah, no offense against baseball But that shit's boring as fuck compared to fighting you know, what's my theory about that? So there is Sports a lot of sports, but the first one first sport first

1:40:53First version of sports for the version of version of sport was like one man wants to overcome the second man yes and it came from DNA from DNA from fight from fight for this piece of from being cave man from food from food from yes this is this that's why it came from and in In the time there was like, let's do another competition, another competition to not be so violent. So violent, but to be honest, the realest one competition is the one man against the second man. That's why that sport translates through all languages. is the only sport that translate like cricket. Cricket is huge in other parts of the world.

1:41:49Nobody watches cricket in America. In other parts of the world, billions of people watch cricket. Nobody gives a fuck about cricket here. Put cricket on TV, no one's gonna watch. And in the time we gave the some rules, the kimonos, the all these things. No, let's go. Well that was the beauty of the first UFC. The first UFC was just wild. No weight classes, no real rules other than iPods. There's a, Joe, Joe Sahn was fighting Keith Hackney. And Keith Hackney was caught in a guillotine and he's just punching Joe Sahn in the balls. It's a famous scene. You remember that? I said, I remember watching that going, oh, this is awful.

1:42:37This is awful. There's another one in Brazil. Big daddy Goodrich was fighting this guy named the the page. Look at this. Just pure nut shots. Just one after the other right of the balls. This is horrible. Watch. Show me the monk training. But here's the thing. If he's wearing a cup, especially if he's wearing a tie cup, a steel cup, which I also think should be illegal. I don't think he should have steel cups, because steel cups act as a leverage point as well. Okay. Not only that, you could break your foot on it. It's a unnatural object and then if you get someone in an arm bar with a steel cup Yeah, you could break it.

1:43:12It's like it's like it's an extra leverage point It's like it's like bending a stick over a rock Usually like a weapon. Yeah, and you can't even floor and you just always fight with a tie steel cup And he's like, I don't know why anybody would fight with anything else because it hurts them when they kick me Yeah, yeah, and it really is like a good leverage point It's also good for the mount if somebody mounts you There was a guy that used to train with a mere renovati and he used to get on top of you and mount you and drive his cup. This trap is dick in your solar plexus. If you want a tap, it was horrible.

1:43:42But it was smart. I mean, if it's legal, it's a smart thing. Find a way between the laws. Imagine if nobody had cups of cups were illegal. There'd be so much more nut shots. Maybe somebody will find a way how to jump with these cupboards to do the face. I don't think so. I don't think that's real. That other than that would work. But other than that, the rules, they're pretty good. They're getting a little bit better. I'd like knees on the ground as well. Knees to the head. I don't think a opponent should be allowed to be in a turtle when your head is vulnerable. You have to move. You have to avoid those knees.

1:44:17And that's a... Like before my last fight right now, the referee, sorry, I didn't know with the big moustache. Mike Beltron. Sorry, Mike Beltron. He's a good guy. And he tried to tell me like how to, because I didn't know that. The change of the rules. The change of the rules. Like when the hands down, when he's not the elbow, when the hands down and you're staying and the legs and hands down, you can neither opponent the hands. Yes, still. So, man, that's better. That's better. Much better. Much better. Because guys were gaming the system. They put a hand down so they couldn't get need in the face.

1:45:03That's crazy. That doesn't make any sense. You should not be doing that. Yeah, that's a good rule that they changed. Another rule is the 12 to 6 L. Well, that should be leaked into it. Now that's legal again. That's the only reason for John Jones ever having a loss. You know, so there's this good movement on the rules. Ryzen allowed knees to the head to a grounded opponent and kicking. Did you get accustomed to that and have to like get that out of your system when you came to the UFC? Is there any moments where you like thought about throwing a soccer ball? No, no, I didn't thought about that but when you are still when you are in the control in the fighting what's the I think the the biggest biggest thing in of the fighter in the fighting to to stay in in the control so you know what to do what can't do do, but there's a moment when you don't control yourself too much.

1:45:58So it's dangerous. But in raising, I did that like I think twice. Yeah. Yeah, it's very effective. It should be allowed. I think it should be allowed. I think the only problem with soccer kicks is the cage. So the cage, if your head is right there and you get stomped, you can't move. So it's the unnatural barrier of the cage that's a problem. That's why I think basketball court Yeah, maddened down basketball court just two men in the center of it have a warning track Yes, you go outside the warning track two -way times you lose points Yeah, because you're trying to avoid the fight plenty of movement Yeah, plenty of time to room and if someone gets you down I was just trying to imagine that and it's better.

1:46:41It's good. It's much better Yeah, it's better because you wouldn't be able to just stall the fight up by holding someone against the cage Yeah, sometimes when fighters are exhausted, they'll just clinch against the cage try to catch their breath That wouldn't be allowed you couldn't do it. There would be no opportunity to do that That's right. That's right. Also if you got taken down you'd have to get up with skill You can't just use the cage to get up. It's very hard Especially if you got a great wrestler like Islam on top of you Very hard to get up any other way than wall walking. Yeah Just right now, I'm thinking about it.

1:47:12I think about it about the, I was the name of the movie Hunger Games. Yeah. Just to put somebody and somebody somewhere and they will find each other's in the natural environment and environments and they will fight together and everybody will watch that. So, so give them weapons. Well, have you seen those? They do have like people with armor on fighting sword fights now. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. Just a matter of time for they take that armor off. Yep. That's right. And some crazy country. Yeah. Some wilder country. Yeah. Yeah. That's just a million dollar per purse. You fight with swords. So, jeez.

1:47:50Yeah. Then you're back to the Roman days, the Colosseum. Yeah. But still, how I see that, when we are going higher in understanding everything, we have to go... So maybe I'm wrong, deeper in the these role roles, things. We want to see more role because to be not, oh, something like two ghosts. You understand me? Yes, I do because the consequences are higher. You have to get more pure. So balance, balance. Did you ever read any Mimie Moutemou Sashe? You know I read. Yeah, of course. I don't even have to ask, but the book of five rings he talks about that because me a multi -mosage was such a great sword fighter that he believed the only way to fight at your best is you have to be a balanced person, very balanced, you have to be an artist, you have to be able to do calligraphy and write poetry, you can't just be aggression, you have to be completely balanced and he believed in that so strongly and taught that so strongly in the book of five rings that if you if you think about how he applied it to sword fighting it makes sense everything what you're saying makes sense because you have to be completely pure when it's just two men and swords.

1:49:07You can't have any bullshit you can't let the ego get you on the wrong line because you're not just going to get punched in the face you're going to lose your head. That's right. Yeah. That's right. There is no. Yeah. No time and that's why that's why I don't like it. But there is no time for a talking. There is no time for a bad word in your talk. No time for a bad move in a fighting. So your mind have to stay controlled, stay present and use, do nothing. I think what's not useful for this moment. Right now we are in nature here. But when our life will... these podcasts, these talking, maybe when you will not talk everything through, and everything honestly, it will cost you a life.

1:50:18So we will ever move both. We will pay attention of every hour word because in in that ages of Miyamoto Musashi there was even even the word can cost somebody's life. Yes. So that's why they were so precise in everything in every that's the Japan, every movement, even the T -Pot, even the T -Ritual is the art. So that's why they were, and still they are so precise in the thinking and expressing, expressing your true self, not just talking whatever metaphor. Hey, how are you? Hey, what's up? I do this is something when I don't like to to to to America like everybody asks you, hey, how are you and don't care about your and they don't care about your your answer.

1:51:29So and and I want to stand. Hey, I'm great. How are you today? No way he's not carrying this going somewhere. So why why why you ask me why are you doing this? So it's a figure of speech. Yeah, but still it's a it's a kind figure of speech. I know I know it's not real. Yes, but it's not real. They don't really care what you're doing. I don't care how I'm understand. Yeah. Yeah, let's be real, but sometimes don't push it too much to the, I am important every my vote is important every movement. So the true power is coming with a lightness to be lightness and lightness is not to take making so much seriously and taking too much light, so taking like, don't care about what I'm saying.

1:52:29So some still balance. This is the best. Constant balance and staying pure, staying here. And is that what you're feeling when you stare your opponent's down? Because like, these, one of the fights with Pereira and the fight with Jamal Hill, You you just lock on your opponent and you stare and is that what you're doing in that moment? Just trying to be completely present just can empty yourself of all bullshit That's the yeah, this is the moment where before the fight. Yeah, it's all about that because there is no opponent There is a just the moment this moment I'm everywhere That's who I like it.

1:53:15I'm everywhere. Yeah, but this is not something what I'm telling you you that because I want to be cool. No, no, no, no, I don't think you are. This is a real truth. Yeah, that's all. So now that you have this big victory, what happens next? Do you wait for the UFC to call you? Do you wait for Uncle Live in a pararadified to see what happens next? This is what I am right now, not expecting what I want to see to fight. if they fight will happen because they are translating that so much this this they are fight so so let's see let's see who's the best and my attitude

1:54:04and right now I know that how I what to do to not to get better to do a real serious preparation to get prepared for. Both of them doesn't matter who and be ready for for negotiation about about the next fight. I want to title but I will let the life to give me who's before me right now. Who's the challenge right now before me? So it's just about whatever the challenge is except it and then try to find your best self for this next performance as well. That's right. It's an exciting time for you, man. How old are you right now? 32. It's a perfect prime. That's in your prime. It's exciting time.

1:54:54Are you enjoying this life?

1:55:00Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, enjoying, but man, a long time, nobody asked me for like for these questions. So I didn't thought about that long time, but yes, since I decide I want to go this way of the of the warrior, over true man, to to to feel the true power and take it to out to my life and live with that, not just to feel that and go away, but to keep it in a daily life. Yes, yes, I'm enjoying that. And I don't know who said that, like what's yourself, like an art, like an David you are. Well, you're making a masterpiece. Master, make a masterpiece from your life. And that's what I like to do in my meditations to take a step up, watch yourself, watch where you're going, who you spend time with, where is your daily routines, how it make it better, and then go into the deepest level of the present moment and leave that and stay with these your best ideas what you are connected with.

1:56:47Yes, so yes you ask me yes I live that but I didn't in the time right now I I can say it right now, I didn't expect it will cost you everything. It will cost you your old personality and you will reborn like a new personality. But still, I know somebody, my spirit, whoever choose that because I know this is the way. One of the things that I have to talk to you about was in the Alex Pararify, you thought that they were using some magic spirit. Black magic. Yeah. What do you think that? You know, okay, I will take it from another start. When I'm doing something, I'm doing that like, I'm extreme in everything what I'm doing.

1:57:52So I want to go to the bottom, to the bottom of the, to the start where it, the source, of that, where it's going. And the source of the spiritual world, of that question, what is the spiritual world, where the source is? If there is some weapons, how they use that in the cage? And I went in that so deep, so I get lost. really so I had another no other chance just to totally close this close this doors just believe that I am who I am who to believe just for ideas which I started with like the martial arts and all these things and just be in the gym and train. Don't do another dispulsion because with a Pereira I really get lost and I started to believe to another people to not just myself and this is something this is the way to the to when you start stop believing yourself, you're through yourself.

1:59:34And when you start believing some spiritual guys who's trying to protect you or giving you something and trying to lead you and they know what's the best for you. And that was my biggest school in this life, I think. So yeah, that was my last preparation to just believe in myself, go to the gym and train. Do a good camp, do a camp, what was the first, your biggest inspiration. So in Japan, I made a camping Japan. Then I made in high attitude training in Mexico. Then I went back to my city, Bruno, for my guys, for my team. And we made a solid good camp, hard camp. And the last fight, I'm happy that happy.

2:00:40What is it about getting down to the source that made you think he was using black magic? Yeah it's every time a big no big difference experience I said that that's for big power when you are responsibility. It's big responsibility not just be responsible to we are we are I want to speak right now so I don't want I don't want to speak about that fully because still it is it is something what I am humble for and I can say this This is it. This is it. Yeah. Too because everyone, everyone has the, their own way and nobody is like even me prepared for to say something, what can be for somebody like take it seriously.

2:01:52You know, maybe, man, again, I get lost in that. So, the thing is, I just started to believe I will not speak about where is the magic, how to use the magic. But you believed that there was magic working against you. man, and that was the biggest power to my opponent because I was focused for him, north for me. You know? And that's where the Black Magic lies. And then. Because it gets you outside of your own head. Is that, but is that Black Magic or is that just his presence as a champion? Because that's the aura of a fighter is a weapon. He has. He's real. And when he's in his prime, has that, like Tyson in his prime had that.

2:02:44There's Anderson Silva had that. There's an aura that champions have when they're in their prime. That makes you think about them instead of yourself. And it probably seems like playing magic. Yeah, but still, this is the... Just for me, is the pure self -confidence. And to be pure self -confident, you can't think about your opponent. And that was something that I might, and that was something that I... really went to another level. Yeah. Yeah. So when you look at yourself now in this amazing performance against Jamal Hill, do you are you imagining yourself even better? Are you constantly imagining yourself even more precise, even more accurate, even more effective?

2:03:37Yeah, yeah, sure, but right now I'm more in reality about that. Not just in imagination. I want to see that in video. I want to be real. I want to see the results of my work. All these things real. Not just the thing like still think about I can be better. I can do this but I know I want to I want to be a champion and I'm going for it and I want to show that to everyone. That's all. And I will show that. And then we can speak about the Black Magic again.

2:04:27No, because... So right now you don't even want to concentrate on the idea of that. Yeah. And to protect yourself from that, you just don't think about it and be in your own. It's all about that. Yeah. It's all about that because in the... Like I said, the mind is a big, uh, greatest surf, but the baddest, uh, baddest boss. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why it can run away from you. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I had to go back to the Japan where like my... All belief started to go really deep because there I started to be, I don't know how to say it, like not just in spart, but to live it, really live it without, without no, without anything.

2:05:28So in managing your mind, I'm sure one of the most important things is to not have a lot of like negative influences. Not have a lot of negative thoughts in that. Do you spend any time on social media when you're in camp? Yeah, yeah, but I'm doing just some posts and that's all. Yeah, just posting posts. Post and go, yeah, that's it. That's how to do it. Post and maybe some Answer to my just a few few of my friends and that's all no no reading comments no reading anything because I'm here to Right now. I'm here to To show you my way of the martial arts Of the my my way to do to the strength When I still feel the way and And this is it.

2:06:20What is the days that you spend in darkness and silence? What does that do for you?

2:06:31It's still about exploring your mind, keep your mind disciplined, keep your thoughts on the ground, observe the mind. It's all about the mind and then about the training because I trained there too in that dark, you mean that dark room and yeah, yeah So meditation, observing mind

2:07:02Follow follow your and find the best the best of your, what you can achieve in this life, what you can, if you can, if you want really, and this is the question what everybody has to answer for, to ourselves, which life we want to live, which thoughts is the useful which not, which I need to let go and which I want to keep in my life. So, and so it's just a deep exploration of your own mind. Yes, maybe because there is a lot of levels like imagination, see some visualization, some live dreams, all these things because after three days there is an opening, the third eye is opening and you can see you can you can see truly who you are and maybe sometimes somebody needs more days without food so it's going to be then it's without food it's going to be like more intensive yeah everything's going much faster so yeah so when When you started doing this, you do no food.

2:08:43Do you just drink water when you're in there? Yeah. And if you understand me, all these things I'm doing because I really decide like to use everything like a weapon in a fighting to use my mind, use my visualization, use the everything. and that's why I went to the this trip of the spirituality so deep because I fall. I thought there will be some special weapons where I can use in the fighting and the biggest special weapon is to be yourself the realist yourself. That's all there is the that's the key that's the key. Yeah. Well listen brother I'm a big fan. I love watching you fight. I really enjoy talking to you I wish you nothing but success and I can't wait to see you get after it again And I'm very happy for you in your improvement.

2:09:50The last fight was incredible and Thank you for everything. Thank you. Thank you. Tell everybody give a website Give a website. Sure line. What is your website? I have just a brand that you mean like do you have a website or you just have social media? Oh social media yeah social just Instagram your broadcast guy. Yuri your got for Husqa yes in Instagram Twitter to Twitter is Yuri BJP. There it is. Yep that's it. What is BJP stand for? Wow man this is what I came from the stands that that young Yiri not young Yiri the true Yiri who's but you have seen it like that because Because I'm trying to tell them like this is the best theory prohaskar, but in the real is In check is a bombiac feature and That mean like bombs as fuck Because yeah, that's it.

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