JRE MMA Show #169 - Protect Ya Neck

22:26He's on time now. Yeah. Yeah. It was weird. Listen to him talk. It's super distopens. He's got a custodial sense. You know, it's a surf half of it. Oh. So then there's to serve 10 months in a prison for doing that. Posts for making a post on Facebook. He find the video, Jamie? Well, I have to. Sure. I'm fine the video, because it's kind of funny when you see the guys wig. Like they have to wear the wig. That's like the moon over there. Yeah, the moon's cool, powdered wig. On the back of the day, the nation wear them to hide shit. No, it was syphilis. They were losing you. I don't wait, dude. Yeah, that's where the term big wig comes from.

23:04Because the richest people got the biggest wig. They all got syphilis. So this is what happened. They came over to America, right, when the like the, in the 1492 days. Yeah. When they came back, they brought syphilis. Oh. And syphilis just going rampant through these European cultures. And these people are. So syphilis came from here and they went back there. This is the thought that so there's different types of syphilis, but they're pretty sure there's some evidence that indicates that one type of syphilis was transferred from Native American populations to Europeans. Native Americans who had already had a resistance to it, just like we had a resistance to smallpox in the flu when the Europeans came over here and that's what the Indians did and that's why they got wiped out.

23:45Well, they didn't have resistance to this kind of syphilis. This is like holding your face, your fucking, your hair falls out. This is the guy. Listen to this motherfucker. You did not want your money going to immigrants who quote rape our kids and get priority and quote. This offense is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. Would you stand, please? The sentence that I passed has been reduced by one third as a reflect your guilty plea. The sentence is one of twenty months in prison. Say that you didn't. The guy said he didn't want his money going to immigrants and went to jail.

24:30This wasn't somebody threatening violence. Yeah. They edited the post so we don't know what else right there wasn't at it. I was gonna point that out There's there was a there's something there so this Here's a thing too whenever it's possible for something like this to exist Whatever it's possible There's gonna be a bunch of people from other countries that edit stuff to make you more mad at the people in the UK Like there's there's there's doing China does that in America There's a lot going on with social media and these kind of clips and posts and stuff. There's a lot more going on than makes sense.

25:05People always bitch about America, but look at that shit. You know what I mean? They're not locking anybody up over here. You can't bitch about America in comparison. The whole rest of the world is way worse in terms of how you're able to express yourself, the consequences of expressing yourself. This is a pretty good spot. It's just not perfect. It's a cool thing that it feels weird now that it's like the younger generation everybody's like They just like it feels cool to say like fuck America like people are like you wear a American shirt They just think you're a fucking Maggagai aside say dude.

25:39Well, you can't be proud of where you're from America you can't be proud of your country America's everything. It's it's all the things, you know It's just we're so tribalized and we have to get over that That's the number one problem is people decide that those people that they hate and they hate everything about them And then okay now you got 50 % of the country that you can't associate with that's not on your team Like what did you do and so well now you have to justify everything your team believes in including shit That doesn't make any sense and shit that is probably immoral You know especially when it get you get into like trans kids surgeries and chill like that You're still to sign off on that because if you don't then you're signing off on these right wing bigots that want to fucking You know put the Bible in every you're a Nazi.

26:25Yeah, you get you're a Nazi It's like we're it's bad both both fucking versions are bad of both sides when you're looking at it from the other side Because it's all cartoonish because most people live in the middle of shit. Yeah, I mean, I mean I feel that's a hundred percent true Most people are in the middle. I think you made like the point you made earlier too You're getting just fired through the algorithm, you know, the shit that pisses you off. If that's what you're clicking on all day long anyway. So it just drives that wedge deeper and deeper, I think, because they're just inundated 24 seven.

27:00Like sometimes you just got to stop and get outside or watch a TV show to decompress. That's the fucking problem though. You can't even enjoy, I meant what they did with Star Wars with the act you're like, you can't even enjoy. You can't even enjoy. I love the pop culture. I love movies. I tried to watch the electric state, that fucking thing, because I love robots going fucking rogue and AI. I see electric state. It's a Netflix movie with Chris Pratt, and it looked like a big budget. It was by the Russo brothers who did the Avengers and shit. So like, I go to about AI, robots. What a, dude, what a piece of shit.

27:36I couldn't even get through the opening, and then I know what I don't like. I don't like when I'm watching a movie and already I see, okay, I know who the director voted for. Like you know, I mean, Joe, they're like, you're bringing up the uprising of the robots. And there you go. And to celebrate the enslavement of the robots, Kid Rock did a concert. Oh, did he really? Did he really fucking assholes? Again, I asked him to wait and shit, but okay, you're on that side. Go fight, I turned it off. Go bring it me right out of it, because you're showing me like, you're taking shots for the audience to know, dude, Fuck off.

28:13I want to see some ale fucking robots fucking I want to see I want to be entertained I don't want to know about your fucking politics. I feel like we have political fatigue though I feel like most people are tired of talking about it. Most people like just stop I don't want to talk about the shit ever. It's also it's like pretending that one side is beyond reproach is Fucking ridiculous and if you're one of those tribal people you have to do that you have to support your side and like that That just gets nuts. You can't do that. There's too many people. There's too many financial interests. There's too much money.

28:46There's too much shit going on. There's too much... Why is there bromate in my bread, bitch? That's the way it is. That's the point of going on down with... Tell them that you're in a job number five. You motherfuckers have been doing a terrible job of taking care of us. You're not really taking care of us. We want to think you're like a cool counselor or something like that. It's like looking out for the rest of the kids that are on this camp together. You know, like our councilman is going to take care of us. They got it. They're going to teach us to how to get through the woods. Meanwhile, they're just stealing money.

29:17Now you can't go to the woods. It's a 28 ,000. But that's Canada. I mean, but this is the problem with places that don't have the freedoms that we have. Like the Constitution, our founding fathers, they nailed it. They really did. It's crazy that they nailed that so well. They knew human nature so well that it applies. Like it's important 300 years Maybe since they came from a monarchy, you know what I mean? They gave them that perspective. They were so smart But I wonder how many of them were there right like how many like really well -educated people were around back then think about the age Could have been that many got it young It ain't even that many now.

29:52Not a young kid. You know that we're writing this thing Yeah, some of them are like in their early 20s That's a middle age back then That's a good point, nice fucking name. Yeah, that's true. You get an infection back then, you get that. That's Ciflus, done by 35 over there. Yeah, brother, the Ciflus thing is really nuts though, but that is why that stupid fucking thing that that guy was wearing on his head. That's what it does to tradition, based off of Ciflus, and they still do shit today. Yeah, and though guys with the most money had the biggest wigs, that's why they called them big wigs. Big wigs.

30:24It all started with these two brothers that were royals. Was it brother or a guy in his cousin I forget but these guys who were royals in France and These guys were like you know the socialites They were the the celebrated people and they started losing their hair because they're freaks You know they're fucking up a storm over there and they're catching syphilis and they got holes in their face and shit They smell awful and their fucking hairs falling out so they just get a wig and then other dudes say I want to be like him So they got wigs and then a bunch of people started getting syphilis they covered up with wigs But that's crazy to me that you're almost celebrating having syphilis by getting a bigger wig.

31:01Well, you know what it is. It's like you're not celebrating syphilis, but since everybody's wearing a wig, your wig is the dopest wig. You got to have a dope. It's all because of sexually transmitted diseases. Where are that shit? Crazy. That's our first export. I think it was smallpox, man. Smallpox wiped out the whole country. Yeah. The whole country the whole all of North America was filled with people they all got killed It's like 90 % of the people got killed. Yeah, yeah What you hold on what year was that? This was between the times of the first settlers to The 1800s it was 90 % 90 % like Americans died from disease that you know Europeans And you know that for a long time they were trying to deny they were trying to figure out like what happened to the myons I'll tell you what happened to the lion's disease.

31:55Yeah, obviously Europeans get they had this spectacular civilization in Mexico If you ever go down and you ever go and see any of the ruins. Yeah, I went to cheat. I was a cheat

32:07Amazing, fucking dope. Yeah, it's dope like what would they what drugs were these Yeah, how would they build an ass shit? I don't know man a thousand years ago amazing see and even like the Remember that the ball court they had where you can stand at one end or the other and you can hear each other tall Yeah, yeah, yeah, acoustics and just the this sheer size of it's like wow Yeah, and then just wiped out by a cough Dirty stinky Europeans right off the boat breathing on everybody swept through the people no immunity to it That's crazy. It's pretty wild man. It's exactly what happened to the to all the Amazon two men They're finding that out now the Amazon was all just disease Damn white they had millions of people were living in the Amazon and some Europeans went to visit in like I forget what year was But they came back and had these stories about these beautiful Like cities and filled with the gold and all this crazy shit and then people went back a hundred years later was all gone This guy was lying some white tourists But it wasn't right and that crazy it wasn't lies Yeah, so now they use light are and they they scan over the top of the forest and they see like where these cities used to be There's so much shit over there that they haven't even uncovered.

33:27It's just nuts that it's it's just dirty diseases Those first people they fucking

33:38Never hard -ass enough to make it here. You know they were bringing some shit with them. Oh bro You know how hard people must have been back then candy just to even say okay I'ma try it when someone says hey, we got a wood boat. We're gonna go out there We have no idea where we're going. I've always give Christopher Columbus credit for that shit Oh, no fucking wooden boat in the middle right I can't even fucking find directions to get to the fucking apex Half the time the crazy thing is we give him credit for landing here And he didn't even make it here. Yeah, he landed like the Indies, right?

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34:47He wasn't even in America. Bahamas is. I'm gonna fuck where he landed. That month I go out in the ocean 500 years ago. We give him Christopher Columbus day. About the land here. I mean, I'm looking at the Vikings. These motherfuckers, you know, just conquered oceans. What go in everywhere. So was it say here? San Salvador in the Bahamas. Yeah. His first land on an island in the Bahamas. Like that is not America bitch. You don't get credit for, you don't get credit for discovering America. The Italians were taken credit anyway. But that's probably when them diseases started hitting them areas. Also, that history of smallpox goes back to the 6th century, starting in China.

35:31Smallpox does. Yeah. Interesting. So the 6th century. And then was it mostly smallpox that killed off the Native Americans? Or was it a bunch of different diseases that we brought with us? There it is. 17th century European settlers bring smallpox to North America. There's an amazing guy named... What is that, Jimmy? European settlers are here with... For Columbus, that's in the 16th century. Not 17th century, right? 1500s? Right. If you land in 1492. Yeah, 1492. Right. That's a 20 -year later almost. Right. Well, it's probably like how many people came, you know what I mean? Like when Christopher Columbus came, that was, so this is 1492, he lands in the Bahamas like 100 years.

36:21Yeah. How many people got, we're interacting with them. You know what I mean? How many people, once they started coming over here regularly, like when did folks start to hop in in boats and coming over regularly. Like the early settlers. I wouldn't have did it. I mean, you know, and fucking, you can go across it. No fucking way. No fucking way. Those people were animals, man. For real. You're gonna take a chance. You, this dude knows how to get across the ocean and a wooden boat using a thing. Yeah. A good, yeah. We stare at the stars and try to figure out where you are. And he's drunk all the time.

36:57James Town was 1607. That's when it started huh? Interesting. Well that would be... So that's probably makes sense for us. So like a hundred fucking years they talked about it. Isn't that kind of crazy? I like inviting some show ratings. I think it talked about America for a hundred years before they came over. Oh no shit. Yeah so it's like he lands in the Bahamas that a hundred years later... Oh right, Nene and S .P. started. Yeah then they start the first... What are how long it took him to get across? You imagine what it would be like setting up a colony in a new country and you know there's people with bows and arrows Did you know first people?

37:38Fucking Indians waiting for everybody knew they knew that this was Inhabited and they knew the type of people they'd come back You know what whether it was Columbus's people or the other whatever was here came back and they had all these crazy stories about interacting with also the craziest stories were from... There was one of the guys was a priest or something, some holy man that was traveling with Columbus who had detailed descriptions of the horrific shit Columbus and his men did to whoever the indigenous people were taking care of. horrible shit. What they were saying, if you don't bring back your weight and gold, we'll chop off your arms, they were chopping arms off, dashing babies' heads on rocks.

38:24Jesus, correct. Yeah, they were forcing these people to bring them gold. Do you remember that guy's name? Father something or another. So he had his memoirs of his time over there with Christopher Columbus' people. And he was like, it was horrific. So these people that we celebrate, I mean, this is one thing that the wokesters got right. You know, if you want to celebrate Christopher Columbus, like Christopher Columbus, we have Columbus Day, like be careful who you're celebrating. And just, if that father, that priest was telling the truth, you're celebrating a monster. You're celebrating like a literally a mass murderer who would go to another country and control them.

39:04I mean, believeable for when you think about history. Bro, that's all they did. For sure. I mean, everybody conquered everybody at one point or another. Yeah, and when there was no internet, You get away with a lot. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No one knew you were coming. You're coming with boats. You're fucking people out. You're taking all this shit. And when you land places, you're like, it was, this is probably the only time in history where a boat can land in a place and it's on hostile. In America, when boats come here, it's like, oh, we're land. But for the most part, most boat travels not hostile.

39:36It's like, oh, look, a big boat full people. They're going to come eat at our restaurants and strange people from a different place. land are gonna come and enjoy what we have to offer here in Portugal or wherever you are. Some people are counting on that. Bro, it used to be a boat showed up. You didn't know it was on. Yeah, you got to stop. It was on. It got a board. Yeah. You hear a fucking a shell? A shell? A truck. You gotta wake up with your armor off. Fuck. I can't believe I gotta do this. Imagine. Just imagine that shit. Bro, that's how they live forever. That's how people live for thousands of years.

40:10It's nuts. It's amazing. We made it as far as we did. I Don't know if we'll do another thousand I'd take that with these No, I'm just saying like think about what we are now like those dudes they was hard right like they were gone I say was hard now we in tick -tock culture There's a lot of that and there's an encouragement of men to not be strong, which is always weird Push into a male thing. It's always weird. There's that encouragement. It comes from people that aren't strong They want more people like them people don't more like yes In American troll of social media. That's where things get weird the fucking act you like They quit all the balls from the Jedi's Nobody's in an action figure of that fucking little I mean they put the fight the Hulk and Marvel They gave him glasses and now can talk like now it doesn't make any sense that you would go back and forth between being the Hulk and being Bruce Bannon.

41:09Yeah, these are all the same. Yeah, they make the super smart guy who we It's just a super check. Yeah, I was That wasn't that great that movie, but Superman that is a superman. It's a weird choice to give a guy role to a girl It's a weird choice because there's so many girl roles in Super there was comic books. Check Super hero especially in the X -Men X -Men had plenty of bad times on them right? They got to do that over right now It's like you've got super woman you got this plenty of different characters you could play like I don't know why Yeah, why unless you're trying to prove a point like Matt Sarah says I know who you voted for yeah to be fair there is a female silver surfer yeah the second one here's the deal with that she was in maybe two yeah episodes where she mattered and the rest of them she was mentioned like she's not a real character I so love the silver surfer did anybody ever come to serve her the no flat out movie that's any good he may be straight up one of the first fantastic for when they they got the silver surfer pretty good in that I wouldn't have a silver surfer movie I know my favorite character.

42:22I mean a special server cosmic character. Yeah, he's then is fuck right? 100 % maybe they sacrificed himself to save his planet and his girl. But the silver server is literally the coolest comic book I've seen look cool in this even rise of the silver surface. Yeah, I thought this was a They did him good in this they did a version of a whole episode of the Avengers or a whole Movie of the Avengers on the silver server. I forgot about that. What year was that? This was fantastic. Oh, yeah, fantastic. This was pre 2007. This was when Jessica Alba was the invisible woman And Captain America was the human torch that got Chris Who played silver surfer in this I don't I don't remember it might have been all see I thought they nailed it.

43:09I thought in this The voice was Lawrence fish from our Yeah, I remember that when I was chubby I look like Michael Chicklitz

43:20The shield The shield was the best That was a great show But yeah, I saw that new fantastic for a movie and it wasn't overly walled or anything but I think could have done more with the thing Which I heard it was like a minor part You know the girls had the best parts they're the ones that did the thing we collect is at the hour no spoilers was fuck right So you know, but I am happy to say and I know you were waiting for me to bring it up I enjoyed the new Superman. I didn't see it yet. Oh, of course not we're all adults except for me It's good James gun man. I know I don't believe I never heard of that song Punk rocker by teddy bears.

44:04Oh, that'll change your life. It has icky poppin it Oh, it gets my nipples hot. It's so good. And the movie if you like Guardians of the Galaxy, which I'm sure you did I love it. Yeah, then you'll like this because it's just fun. Let's have fun again Yeah, I'm not against the Henry Caval one. He was a badass. He was good That's dark Weird that we still want to see the same fucking characters over and over and over again in different versions of the same movie Like isn't it kind of weird? No, cuz I love that man. Some people love those kind of things. I have to understand, but it's like, there's a little thing of it that it's like seeking comfort in this thing.

44:44Oh, it's Superman again. Like, not letting go of our childhood. Yeah, yeah, 100%. 100%. Because like, try coming up with a new Superman today. People are gonna be like, fuck you. Like, some new kind of comic book guy. Like, not, no background at all in comic books. So you come up with a superhero type character Now in a movie no one's gonna watch it right like I don't I don't want a new one no one wants a new one Everyone wants the Hulk everybody wants spider -man. You want to see spider -man There's like how many different dudes have been the whole four or five dudes They kept the whole Shots Good They got rid of them cuz he wanted to keep the Hulk like the Hulk That was my favorite version of the Hulk And he's running through the favelas in Brazil.

45:32Yeah, that was awesome But when when when the when the Hulk starts running through that factory and he's smashing That's when it was like see you kind of knew it was bullshit. You're looking at it like a CGI It's a comic but as long as you keep it kind of darkly lit Yeah, don't don't show me too much. They got better with that. They got better with the I wasn't too long ago for Hancock That was a superhero that was just out of nowhere. I can't watch anything with this fucking guy I know I know what happened Real corny and this guy's doubling down on smack and Chris rot you know that he has a versus like you You disrespect me on the stage expect me on the stage.

46:15Which is kind of cool saying but you know I mean It's for shit. You're doubling down on it. Spiral downward spiral and then you're basically he stole our show name because he is a cook.

46:31You saw what the hell his wife has humiliated that poor guy. Yeah, publicly. Yeah, that was weird. And he was universally loved and now it's pretty well almost universally reviled. sometimes and then the loves that Chris Ross his music shitty about say his rap is so trash garbage sometimes you hit your horse to the wrong wagon yeah and that that'll take you on a bad journey son I'll take you on a bad journey and you might you might hang in there for a while and keep your sanity for a while but eventually if you're living with someone who's not right for you and there's a lot of tension which There seems to be with them.

47:14A lot of weird shit. Important decision is the spouse. Most important fucking decision. I can't take it. You know, I mean, look at the kids. I mean, it's the son. Imagine if you had to camp out with your best friend for the rest of your life. You would have to really be careful. Like after one dude, and I'm gonna be able to camp out with him for the rest of my life. Just mean him in a tent for the rest of my life. And you get the fuck up. Not like that. I have a life. You're saying that. Pussing out with him. Yeah. But now you add in sex in the fact that you're not even the same gender. Yeah, you gotta be my thing is I always say You gotta be compatible like you know what I mean?

47:51I mean my wife very compatible. Yeah me too, because man I can't lucky. Yeah, I can't stand anybody Well, you know, you just gotta be picky and some people aren't some people just settle for hot Yeah, that's the problem. Yep, settle it for hot always The girls to chart with the hot McCraezy Charis different the girls settle for I shit I gotta get a kid soon. I'm gonna be 30 you know, so they'll settle for mr. Good enough So that's the most important fight. It's gotta be hot for the girls out there too Fucking bunch of seven it's hard for everybody out there. Yeah, it's a it's a weird time and now everybody's on dating apps Everybody has a new opportunity at every swipe of the finger.

48:31Today it's like socially acceptable to be a hoe. I think it's also, there's real concerns that intelligent people have about population decline. That sounds kind of crazy. And you're like, well, we're not gonna population. It's plenty of people. But the problem is people are not having nearly as many people, like replacement people. So like not enough. Like in order for a society to exist at the same numbers, is essentially everyone has to have kids. Right. Right, but a giant percentage of people like in our generation and younger generations are not having kids They're deciding to opt out of it and just focus on their career And they say in Italy and here I mean Japan like you're all having a negative You know population over the years like they're not having enough kids to sustain The population and you add into that Microplastics That are killing everybody's balls knocking their knocking down your your it's kind of weird It's like a thing that we don't see coming.

49:26You know, we don't see it coming. Like real population, but places like Japan are freaking out. They're really worried about it. South Korea, same thing. Yeah, it's could be a real problem. I don't even know that was a thing. Well, it just makes sense, man. If you've got everybody just wants to have a career and if you can't focus on your career because you have kids, you put your kids off till you're in your late 40s. And what's the number like the 2 .1 or something? You know, you have to have 2 .1 kids in order to maintain the just a current level of population. Someone was telling me that in vitro fertilization, which a lot of women use, that those hormones that they have to give you are linked to cancer.

50:01Really? Is that true, Jamie? Can you fight? Can you look that up? Because someone brought it up to me and I was like, I don't know if that's really. And why is testosterone in the younger generation not as strong as it used to be? Microplastics. Yeah, a lady went deep into that stuff. I mean, there's no strong evidence to see this is AI. AI is working for the government, man. Okay, let's see. National Institute of Health says transient increase in the risk of having breast or uterine cancer. So as soon as you started knitting things like that to me, and this says no No conclusive evidence of fertility.

50:44Yeah. Six years old. Right. What does it say like? 17 to not. It says doesn't. The treatments do not increase the risk of a variant cancer. Millignant malinoma or cancers of the endometrium. Hmm. Why am I skeptical? I don't know. Maybe I'm skeptical because you're using Google. Oh, I mean, what? I know but you know what I'm saying? That's the place to use but I would wonder how much of that would be available. Like if someone, if someone's sort of an alternative doctor or someone who's stepping outside of the line is saying, I'm treating a bunch of cases of cancer, like where would you even find that guy's work?

51:27I don't know. No idea. Twitter? Yeah, that's the problem, right? You see a thing on Twitter, you're like, is this guy a quack? Right. Is this guy real but a person told it to me that I trust and I was like really that stuff causes cancer Because like that's your you're you got to dose yourself up with a bunch of hormones when ladies do that in vitro fertilization I like that now at our age We're all in our 50s. Are you 50? Yeah, motherfucker next year? Okay, I'm still in my 40s. I mean are you a T. I want to you? T. I got a little bit

52:05man because back in the day yeah you'd fucked up it already. Back in the day we would just find it on a street. I don't think you'd ever get it. He had a different neighborhood. Those guys were right that's what's crazy. It's like old juicets were right in a lot of ways. There's a lot of old juicets in the gym that were looking jacked in their 50s and 60s. Say about a million pop. Bobby just stays on D ball. He's on D ball. He's on D ball. He's got D ball. You would meet people in the gym that would tell you like what they do and how they did it And then you had to take advice from those folks and a lot of fighters got there You would think by the time a fighter gets to the UFC, you know like well He's probably got a professional team behind him a bunch are like really organized folks like no No, these dudes come with sketchy characters Like super sketchy connections to the streets.

52:56I just read as much as I could You know if you were gonna you try to get as much information as you could about what you're putting in yourself The best guy is online is Derek now. One place now today. He won around the age of 90s. I know, but he's like the best fashion of a pro scientist. You know, he's a smart mother. Smart mother fucker. Yeah. I wouldn't fuck with that myself. Like I go to a place that, you know, they check my blood every six weeks. I got it. You got to donate blood now. You got to do this and that. So it doesn't get too thick, you know. I heard that before, but I don't have that problem for some reason.

53:31Yeah, it doesn't do it. I think it done you know every once in a while. I go down the blood No, I was recommended that they make a bunch of times make sure I'm okay Yeah, you're perfect I only had to do the blood twice You do it every six weeks. No, you mean you're getting a check me They check me and if it gets too high my red blood cells or whatever They just get in the finger prick to see what you're yeah, they take a little blood out and then they check it And then they check all my everything well they can do your red blood cell count Like if you go donate blood they fucking prick your finger and check what your level is yeah, I go there Well, I my place runs out first and then they say all right.

54:09I can either do a dump there But they don't use the blood. I like to donate it Yeah, me too. Yeah, I do the same. Do you have unvaccinated blood? Do you have pure blood? I got a pure blood I don't I got me they got double which one they get three times I got all three of them you I had to. I had to why? I had to work. You have to work. You have to make me make me. I'm fucking didn't know shit. You gotta travel though. If you travel in all the parts of the problem, fucks. For some of these countries, you're working like you and what out it. What? Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you fucking make someone take something because the the only way they can use your service is if they take because you think that this thing is gonna work and it doesn't work, shouldn't you be able to go fuck you.

54:53You made me take this and this thing didn't even work. It didn't even do any of the things you said. It is. It's crazy what you can get away with in the world, especially during something like a pandemic, where everybody just agrees with different rules. Because that's what happened during the pandemic. I was thinking about that shit. Are people still dying from COVID? No. That's what I was saying. What happened today? There's people that are dying with COVID. So there's people that are dying and they also have COVID, but they're dying. Yeah, right and that's the difference and that's why the numbers for the deaths were elevated so high You got a can't turn your head A short cover Yes, oh shark attack check the fetus.

55:30He's got a COVID Yeah, like everybody died of COVID They if because they were financially incentivized people in people to treat deaths as COVID deaths Same with the ventilators. They were getting more money if they had to put somebody put on a ventilator And then they find out the ventilators were killing people. Yeah, I imagine that there was so much craziness like you know when we were saying that we hope that someone is in charge that knows exactly what to do. And, uh, no, there's a lot of times in history. We have no idea what they're doing. And then financial interests get involved. And then they come up with a work right now where we're going to just make everybody take this.

56:04This is going to be amazing. Yeah. There's a lot of money. A lot of money. Oh, we should have been, by the way, they wanted it. Just take it once. And two, three times. They can't take it a court. And they can't take it a court. They're liable. Because they called it a vaccine, but it's not even really a vaccine. It's a gene therapy. It's a totally novel new thing that you're giving to 300 million people just in this country alone. The ads were so shady like I'd be in my car and it'd be like Two students talking like my parents don't want me to take it, but I'm really nervous It was like really crazy.

56:35I'm like, what the fuck is this? So nuts, brother? So nuts You know people have stories where they let their kid take it and then the kid has a stroke There's there all over online this is my carditis was a big thing My carditis yeah, there's undiagnosed my carditis out there too I bet where people just just feel tired all the time feel a little fatigued yeah I'm not even here who got the vaccine. Yeah Jamie covered real early Jamie survives it early so I knew I knew it was not that big a deal Good job Jamie

57:14And then Tony Hitchcliffe got it, he got it worse than Jamie. He had a little longer than you, right? You don't remember? Yeah, man. The creepy thing is these motherfuckers, they meet and then they say, there will be another pandemic. How do you know? Yeah. Well, what about Biden and friends were trying to sign one with the WHO where they had control over being able to shut the US down like, yes, in all this nonsense. Thank God we pulled right the fuck out of that. Yeah, what a what a dumb idea let's some giant global health organizations have say over over that's fully corrupt These motherfuckers run the country because they'll gates a cold one down a eater to it.

57:56Yeah Just nuts man. It's just nuts crazy shit before I got here was watching

58:07Fucking comms out for his come or who's man? not to jump into that now. Yeah, let's jump into it. You know, I had Drake is on unfiltered the other day. Nope. And, you know, he's an intelligent guy, man. He's not a guy that doesn't do his homework. And he was just saying about everybody who talks about how aggressive comes that is. And he goes watch his fight in Kamar Usmans the second round. Over three minutes of him just standing there. He's like, he's not going to be able to do that to me. He's going to be working the whole time. He trained so fucking hard that he puts out everything in that five minutes that one minute get some right back.

58:41It's almost like he approaches at like five different fights. Like you know what I mean because in that one minute he comes back down and then he goes back out there again, Dracus. And we were just talking that we saw you sort of same thing I saw with his clappeling ability. He took out a whole I mean listen it's different those guys were on a guard place and he did a quintet and submitted everybody. Again they were more due to two guys it's a different type of style but that was impressive not to mention And I looked at you know the my producers gave me his bio and everything and I'm like Do he started his first thing admit the first entry in the martial arts was that five years old doom judo And his second discipline was at 12 years old doing wrestling.

59:18I mean, it's not like he's not a grappler Everybody's just so used to him fucking throwing his bombs and his kicks. Well, you know, I'm on your side But this we had to talk. Yeah, I know he's a monster Yeah, there's guys and you know this because you work with moron There's guys that reach this level of discipline and they achieve a level of cardiovascular performance That's just above everybody else's and then they maintain it like they get that advantage and they keep pushing it And they slowly keep adding on to it like you're seeing Mirab now Particularly in the second omali fight. You're seeing there's like a totally different beast He's super non stop non stop and you can't let this can't keep up with that You know, he's like, it's just hard work.

1:00:00It's just hard work. I believe that, but man. Yeah, but state of mind too, like mental, he believes it mentally, you know? The amount of hard work is extraordinary to get to that level. And I think Dracus is kind of a similar thing. A kind of guy. I think that dude works so hard that he can go out there and fight full blast, which is, what's weird to, what you watch him fight. Like sometimes it doesn't look as clear. He looks like he's mouth breathing, but he just keeps the that was earlier fights before he got his nose fixed so he got his nose fixed all right so he could breathe out of his nose mixed changed everything and then was to went on the tear after that was that that's when he crushed Whitaker like the Whitaker one was shocking like because we all know how durable Whitaker is the yo -o Romero fights like that guy's durable as fuck to watch him just flatten him like that you're like whoa yeah he's fun he says he goes I don't uh he's like I don't have a great poker face.

1:00:55He goes, people say, I look tired because I am tired. And when you get tired, you breathe out of your mouth more. And he goes, but even if I am tired, I don't have a poker face, but I'm still coming forward. I'm still going to say and he has, he's got, man, he's got confidence. He's beaming with confidence. He's just that guy. I mean, he's a good champion. He's a great champion. So, I think, so, yeah, much apart. It's interesting. The Izzy fight. I went and watched that again. And, you know, It seemed like Izzy had an advantage up to a point, but then the pressure got to him, then he got hit with a couple of those long shots.

1:01:29He got hit and it just looked like he just didn't have enough in him to fight his way out of it. When he went down, he got submitted pretty quickly afterwards. But I would wonder what Izzy and his prime, how that fight would have looked, because that would have been a lot different. Izzy and his prime, when he was, he's a little quicker, a little quicker. Yeah, I just Just haven't been damaged. Yeah, this is just and there's the damage of training is like but like is he Paulo Costa? Yeah, that's pride. Yeah, that's prime That's also motivated is he like fuck you Yeah, I mean put him away quick and then dry hump them

1:02:13Don't do that kids, but that is he that would have been very the very interesting to see him versus versus director because he could have handled that pressure. Because that pressure is bananas. You know, like Anthony Hernandez fight. That's me, man. That pressure is nuts, man. Crazy. You couldn't keep up with him. He looked like a different level in that. He looked great. He looks amazing. He looks like a world champion. He looks like a world champion. Spoiled it for you guys, sorry about that. No worries, no worries, no worries. No, I was out. Yeah, but I came home. I was like, fuck, I didn't see it yet, but I watched it as soon as I got home.

1:02:48Yeah, super impressed man and that that whole division is like Jesus. There's so many different contenders in that division You know, you got Baha 'u. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this whole fight car Strickland like what's gonna happen with Strickland they suspended him indefinitely for punch in some dude Did you see that I he didn't have to do that man? He's got a him and Chris Curtis man. He just Man, you can't fuck with him Yeah, they will not back down you just can't fuck with him Yeah, and you can't but you can't jump into a cage or punch right? That's what I'm saying like I don't I'm right in front everybody that guy was being a little disrespectful I like Strip and then Fuck that guy.

1:03:31I mean that was kind of and then they interviewed that guy He's like, you know, he doesn't have anything on the mic. He's like yeah, well tentative. It's like oh boy He got what he want. He got a seat. So he wanted. Yeah, he got his two seconds, but the Sean is crazy Yeah, man, those guys He's really like man. He is what he sells. Yeah, you know, I mean he walks that's definitely not an act You ever see when that guy tried to well the guy who's like running from the cops and he was sneaking around his house He came out with a pistol. Yeah, see that dude did like crash D. Y. And then jumped out of the car He was running into the wrong fucking yard right into strong strong Sean Strick one I mean a lot of times now There's a house waiting to shoot some I'm probably so excited.

1:04:13Oh, that's a wretch reading for him. But, yeah. But, you know, nowadays with that guy and being disrespectful like that, this is so everybody's so used to no repercussions. It's like, so everybody's just got so much rooter. Oh, I was saying that Frank Brink Bowley's back. No, no, no, no, no. The world was a better place. Yeah, you know. Teach everybody martial arts. I mean, that would help, cause I mean, it's just like, it's when a guy who is into martial arts, like Strickland does. Yeah. And then you still love him. I told them a story last night where I long goes again It's yeah, this kid wants to do an interview his mother's a little overbearing and you know She's a little crazy, but they helped out the kid the kids a nice kid so I'm like all right So if there a Saturday class I got like 60 people You know, I'm like it my nights aren't great because my old serrative collitis, but you know I'm energetic.

1:05:01I do my class. I do this thing for this kid 12 -year -old kid and the mother's like oh We want to inspire the youth of today because they're all little shit. She's an Irish lady a little And then so I sit down with this kid. I'm like, oh, you know, it was okay. I'm here with freaking UFC legend Matt Sarah And I'm 12 years old and yet we managed to be the same exact height I got fucking I got blindsided but it's So now and what he said that the husband and the wife are be the husband behind the guy I'm like dude. I'm seeing red. I want a fucking so they're laughing So my first thought was directed towards the father who might have taught this kid no man is stop lying a kid's your size You wanted to hit I wanted to do a fucking Loki So then I remembered that I Got my daughters in there.

1:06:00So I go so he tried to ask me I go So I go who came up with that question, but he goes me me and I just kid knows I can't strangle him I want to kill his fat father and then I remember my three go what is her name so I go inside I go just I can't I go give me one second kid I go inside I go Maria This kids give me a whole time. I want you to roll with them and put it on him. Okay On my Instagram This kid wanted clicks 38 ,000 views of my My daughter strangled the fuck out of this And we got some clicks and it was

1:06:38Questions Joe Re -fucking precautions Right now On the On the video you're gonna get some clicks on it Yeah, you want some clicks you little fuck and you know I you see my daughter's he for the 12 year -old Oh, he's got a crazy and after my daughter's So I go you want to start from the feed or photo on the knees he chose on the knees You know my daughter strangles on months that I go I pull him on top pull him and go on

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1:08:06Yeah Regular 40 -year -old dudes aren't hurt all the time, you know, I mean they usually work they go into an office They don't rarely get neat knee injuries 40 -year -old's just because everybody's knees are fucked everybody's fucked everybody's fucked Everybody in a hurt shoulder everybody I thought somebody's been in fucking pickleball I do a 40 night I do a 40 an overnight For a class every Wednesday I teach it. Oh Me and then I to just to feel like go to Ryan I jump on the old men

1:08:41Dude they fucking love it sometimes when it's less than 20 I'll do like my old school Jetsu gang fight everybody I picked teams. I put this guy over there I get it kind of even they all start on their knees. You remember this. We used to do it from the feet back in hand zones They're all broken their backs jumping on backs When one team you can know no lower body submissions could be two on one three on one It stops when one team submits the whole of the team. So we got these old men in that Dude there are fans in the locker room It reminds me of the twilight zone movie when they play kick the can They're like little kids up there like talking about damn such a good time I'm practicing murdering each other.

1:09:22You know? It's so much fun. Making it novel like that. Making it like a team feeling like it's funny. It's funny. Especially if you trust each other. If you're training partners. The biggest thing out of an academy is the atmosphere as you. So I make sure I pluck guys out on a fucking every month. Somebody comes in and I don't like, I get, keep your conglondage at the house, get the fucking out of here. It's all top down. It all comes down from the attitude of the people that are running the place. Always, always. Yo, do you ever show up at a random You get to school and just pop in no I haven't rolled it all in a year.

1:09:52No, I've had a Reoccurring knee issue and a reoccurring lower back issue that I'm trying to get right before I do anything stupid again Yeah, man, shout out the bio accelerator It's great. It's so great Great positive results from that place. I know a lot of people went down there I'm able to throw my right hand again, which I used to wave like fucking this and now I'm just I'm so happy I'm able to do it again bring it back to the Camaro fight with Chimaya tomorrow's been down there too. I was that was down a couple years ago. Yeah, it's like it's a lot of UFC guys go down there Oh 100 % Chris now Like went that CPI in Tijuana is a closer closer trek that place is really good and the UFC's affiliated with them now Okay, yeah, very interesting.

1:10:37Yeah, they're really good. I know a lot of people Eddie Bravo's been down there multiple times But I know a lot of UFC fighters have been down there man. I've been to the again Columbia What is it? Medellin am I saying? I always fucked that up but for a the food down there was fucking delicious When out there with my Jedi Abe and fucking we he took me in the town the food. I was eating the bread I was and I'm just again South American knows how you know fuck that pro mate Yeah, so good. Yeah, I went down there Dan Severn was down there We've got a Yeah, no, it's just for that trip because he was getting Breaker oh Yeah, you got my at home my Moitai coach at home events Moscow you run this type program He goes here tell Rogan thanks.

1:11:29I tried them fucking Zins and now I'm addicted to him I took my whole vacation off of them and I look at said I was like wondering where it was gonna feel like because I go in my word. No, nothing's fine, good. Nothing. I just think it might be a biological thing. You know, some people cigarettes just get them and they just want to smoke cigarettes every day. And some people nicotine gets them. I think some people could just stop taking nicotine and they seem to be all right. And thankfully, I seem to be one of them. It helps me shit. I'm so cute. I can get a mic. I can get a mic. Couple of those with my espresso and a seltzer in the morning.

1:12:05Oh, Jesus. You know, it's terrible. I feel so great. It's terrible for playing pool. If you take too many of them, you're like, you're shaky. You don't have like a good connection between your movement. It feels like weird when you're shooting. Like you don't notice it when you're talking, because it is a stimulant. So it's like stimulating your brain. It actually helps brain function. Nicotine itself is a Neutropic. It's like, it's a nutrient that helps brain function. Like it'll help you pass tests. I think it helps my 80D a little. It probably does. Yeah, terrible for pull though, but I'm still on that alpha brace with that sort of that's legit that's what you got me now too Oh, D.

1:12:41Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll take some I gotta I'll give you guys open Take I take three oh Oh, shit back on on the duplacie fight there I mean, we were talking last night. We both think that DDP can pull this out and win it. Like my mind, my mind set and look, we all know Comzatz a savage. Did you win it too? Yeah, I could see, I could see you in one of these guys' ways. But if we look at it, I mean, his two toughest opponents saved for Whitaker who went in there with a broken face and got it broke the rest of the way. Right. The, you know, Gilbert 170 and maybe Gilbert won that one. Kamaru 170 took it on very short notice.

1:13:33And the couch almost won that one. If it goes longer, probably he does win that one. That was a minute away. Yeah, but he's a 170 pounder. Like if he's making 70 all the time, and going to 85, now you're fighting a dude that walks at 230. So he's not gonna have a big strength advantage over him. Yeah, he's gonna be the better wrestler, you know, but I just think that Dricus is going to be able to weather the storm and then come out the other side and it's going to be a problem and if Comsac comes in people are talking about him fighting at a slower pace well that's not his style and if he fights at a slower pace I think that plays in the Dricus's hands because it will allow him to come forward and pressure him and the thing.

1:14:17Well it's going to be interesting to see if it gets into deep water. That's what's going to be interesting because I know he'd start training with Calvita. So he went for his conditioning. Yeah, he went to Sam Calvita who trained T .J. Dillasha. He works with Aaron Pico, Armons or Oukians doing it with him too. And that guy is a legend, man. Calvita is a... No, 100%. He's a real... I believe with cardio two, part of it is your mental, your mindset, like with pushing through the tire. And, you know, we were talking a little last night and, you know, Comzac's a bad motherfucker. I don't know about his mind yet because the thing is when I was getting that pulls out of a bunch of fights You know Armons are weekend who also just pull out of right, but armons are yeah, but armons said the problem was Homs out over trained for every fight and he would always come into fights worn out and That was the difference to work with calvita that they're monitoring his actual recovery They're they're making sure they're doing everything scientifically.

1:15:18Calvita's, I think his background is in cycling. It was in, you know, endurance sports. Yeah, yeah. I'm familiar with him. I know he was TJ's guy. Nobody knows more about cardio than cyclers, because it's all cardio. The whole thing. It's all cardio. So they know how to recover. And they know, like, what's your threshold, like where you should be? They're for sure. So it's using real science, doing, he's like, this is the first time he's ever going bit through a camp like this where he's coming in fresh where he's not over trained. Well, we're going to see. We're going to see. And my question is too if he gets in a bad spot, right?

1:15:55Is he going to push through it? Will the bully crumble, you know, when he's getting it. It's true. But he got sat down by Gilbert to the Drake is even said in that fight. How he started strong. There's a certain amount. He was counting how many minutes he was just standing in front of him. He said that would both that both those fights. Yeah. His fight with Gilbert and Camaro was been he had the exact mount time he goes for three minutes and whatever he seconds he was just standing in front of him. He was saying that for both guys. Camaro was coming on strong in that third. I know he was coming there.

1:16:25That was a five round fight. I bet the betting would shift. I bet sure. Oh yeah. 100%. He started coming on at the end of the second. Yes. Started to. Yes. Yeah. The third round it was like clear. It was all Usman. I thought. Yeah. I mean, but it is impressive. The way that motherfucker can shoot from halfway across the octagon. No one. He's wrestling too. Like, I don't know. Do you know Pat Downey? Yes. All right. Well, he's known him since he's a little kid. And he was in Beats. And he comes out camp and said like, he said his wrestling. He goes wrestling is like real good. He said he's got top notch wrestling.

1:16:59Like he talked to Betty. He said, we probably both did better with each other than you would think. Like he did better with wrestling. And I did better with the jujitsu. He said, but he said like he said the guys are beast. He said he's strong and he said he's a high level wrestler. Shob was down there watching him train. And they asked Shob to spar with him. He's like, fuck you. He's like, I'm 40, something years old. I'm not done. I'm not doing this anymore. And he said to Hamza, it was just lighting people up. He said he looks really good. The thing about Hamza, all these guys were 170s. You're right about that.

1:17:35But with 170 comes speed. right and hums out speed is a factor. It's a big factor with his handspeed. He's, you know, people forget because like what he did to Kevin Holland, the way he could ragdoll guys in the ground, but what he did to Gerald Merchardt's pretty fucking spooky. Yeah, that's a really good part. He's really good. He's tactical, sharp, and straight down the middle. He's fucking good standing up, man. He's good standing up. And that's where it's going to be weird. That's where I want to say, because Dupac he makes everybody looks stupid. He finds a way to get every mistake. He must got a lot of power.

1:18:12But they're not mistakes. For sure, for a lot of power. Someone did a great breakdown of what he did with Robert Whitaker, where he set up that right hook. And the way he was like recognizing that Whitaker had this certain pattern. And it's not like it looks weird because he just moves different. That's all. He's pissed if whatever it is it works when he hits you is like it in the kid hit by a car Yeah, it doesn't have to be that pretty That's what I'm saying right. He's got to have power to make guys so nervous about getting hit by him Bro that guy is so big he looks like a fucking heavyweight when you're next to him No, how are you a middleweight?

1:18:49How are you 185 ever the thing that I that That come that I keep thinking about is like when's the last time he actually though who's a guy who comes out style. I mean, who's ever, who's trying to shoot on him? Besides, maybe there was a Derek Brunson and something, but when's the last time he's a guy that's just gonna be? No one has a hums out style in the UFC. Well, what I like, but even a grappler, straight wrestler. With a DDP said, he said, look, I'm fully prepared. I'm gonna get taken down. Like, he's not in there saying my wrestling stuff and he said I'm gonna get taken down, but I'm gonna weather the storm and I'm gonna be able to get back up and I would advise a strong warm up in a rubber suit.

1:19:32You don't want to cheat, you can bend the rules. Because it's not cheating. I mean, that's not cheating. When he gets on top of somebody, man, you definitely don't see guys getting them all off of you. Well, when you got a guy who's got, I mean, I actually might not be a bad idea. Get them with those tracksuit things. Did they get warm up with it? Might have been a bad idea. Because you totally can do that. Like, no one could stop you from doing that. would a guy was defending okay when he was down there. Well, I mean, everybody remembers his teeth getting shattered, but before that, he wasn't like, he would have survived because Camaro survived it too.

1:20:05Right. It's possible to survive. Unless he just like, what he did to Kevin Han was kind of crazy. He just went one to the other just, just, just, just, just, I think it just crushed him. Go Gilbert, his guard kept him out of it. Yep. You got to have a decent guard because he don't like it when Gilbert started They're moving and he's like, no, I'm outta here. Gilberts actually, it really world clashed you. It's world clashed. It's world clashed. Yeah, Gilberts dangerous as fuck everywhere. You know, it was interesting watching him roll with Rockhold. Because I know that, you know, it's not like Rockhold was in camp and prepared for this and this is Rockhold at its best.

1:20:42I don't even know how much he had been training, but Hamza just handled it. Yeah, man, just handled it, man. We know how good Rockhold is. Yeah, very good. I know, bro. Listen, what's so exciting about it is there's a chance he could just take him down to do what he did everybody else There is that chance definitely because he's so good on the floor and he's he comes out so aggressive But that's the if he survives it You know Does he have the confidence to go for it and possibly empty the gas tank? I think and get the finish and if he doesn't how fucked is he is no other way? I don't think he I think it's not a smash.

1:21:19That's what he want that's what he's he makes no You know you can't adjust the skies in it Yeah, you can't adjust now on the world championship fight. You got to just hit the gas Yeah, I think instinct is gonna kick in and he is a sprinter You know what I mean? That's the question is can he sprint for five rounds because we know DDP can right him It's John Strickland. They were ready to have heart attacks at the end of that fight Yeah, they were ready to have heart attacks He's probably like the most elevated heart level we've ever seen You gotta give it a little championship fight getting his nose busted like that.

1:21:48Oh, yeah, it's all Fighting with staff. He had that staff. It's after the second fight. That's why it was listless Yeah, he was on antibiotics and everything. He's all fucked up. Yeah, it fucking terrible man that happens all the time Meanwhile that happened with Marab

1:22:13No, no crazy that was the that was the which fight was that with the with the staff yeah was that the umar for the more which is crazy because that was a piece that melted umar and he's doing it was back was hurt too for that one it maraud yeah yeah there was time he wasn't sleeping through the night he couldn't that is yeah small is it different so I saw John wood you have the day they think they're just gonna run through Cory. Oh, I don't know. Marab just got run through. Well, I'm about running through them. Yeah, got to be real careful with hubris. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Marab's not that's not what I'm thinking like that.

1:22:56Yeah, that's not Marab saying it. John would say that. Well, he, I mean, Marab could have had leg amputation. That's Marab. I don't need leg. Thank you. The thick and not like one leg. He said, oh, he was just taping it up and going back to practice. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Someone close to Merop told me that regular people would have probably had their leg amputated if they had to deal with the staff infection that he had on his life. Jesus. He was just like taping it up and going, I don't believe that. Whoever told you that, that's not true. They would put antibiotics on that. They did it because.

1:23:32That's not true. They don't just randomly amputate people's legs, I hope. I hope. I hope. It said he had broken his hand early in the fight. Oh, Numeric met off did. Um, he said he had broke my back and training camp. But some days I couldn't get up from the bed. I just laid down. I don't have a training camp. I don't have a, could you never go back off to help me train some days at the PI was closed. It was Christmas. There was New Year's and weekends and it happened a couple of times. Umar was there and the security goes, I'm sorry we can't let you go in.

1:24:05Yeah, Marob's different. Yeah, Marob's built different. But there's also something about dudes that were from that part of the world. That is a war torn part of the world. It makes a different kind of man. The American dream, man, I just had him on my pod and we were talking for over an hour about his whole journey. And he came over, he did not see him. I couldn't even communicate with him. I could because I have a way, but he didn't speak any English. When I see him doing the skits now, they're checking by Nana. That would have been out there. He's fucking, he's funny as shit. He's funny. He just, he goes back, and now he goes back to his, to Georgia just there, the chariots next to him, and he's trying to jump on the bus.

1:24:49It makes me so happy, man, because you've seen his whole journey. When he first came to New York, he was got linked up with fucking retards. And these guys were morons and Thank God you went to Longo at the his erasia academy, right and And then and then he found his way to Longos and that's a problem right if you don't know where to go And you wind up at a real bad camp and then they they claim you forever Oh, man. Yeah, I'm doing the goal. Yeah, I'm doing it. Just like a bad wife. Yeah, this guy was a bad man I'll always say it's like a bad marriage. Just like a bad marriage. Yeah But he found his way Yeah, oh you guys are so good you and Longo without a doubt need a reality show Reality show you two guys coaching people and then go into dinner It'll be a great show.

1:25:36I fucking love it when you guys I really love it when you guys were you know in the corners when you get miked up

1:25:45We have a good time It's great. The two of you guys together. It's a fun team. Everybody's telling everybody want to see a show. I told him last night what he's on your podcast. He's the best. I know it's so cool. Now, man, I have my 16 year old over there. He's holding for us. It's just makes me say that. It's emotional. Oh, my God. That's awesome. It's so cool, man. You know, he's so cool. He's still fucking going man long. He's the best. He's such a raise awesome. But you two in the corner are so uniquely fun. It's so fun to watch. Like if I was a television producer, I'm like that is a no brainer like we took our guy down to the flagpole me paramount plus Yeah, yeah, no new merger whatever was happy content here exciting.

1:26:24I guess Ray Lungo paramount plus going to pizza places

1:26:37See it's like a built -in show you have fighters that you're training you talk about how he's doing Talk about how it came to you the you two guys just talk about the world. Yeah fucking I miss out there somebody get a Listen to you singing is that me? It's not me isn't it might be me. I don't think it's me pretty sure of airplane I think it's me. Yeah, it's it's totally Built -in show this can't miss how we have a good time You know me don't even be like you should do it You know if you have the time yeah Oh, I'm doing this. You could find me at my school or my podcast Matt Sarri channel on YouTube

1:27:20Dude, I'm out dude. I do movie reactions. You know what I do with that? I watch a movie and They react to real time. I was talking shit watch a movie. Oh, that's great. I play my VR Which is fucking fun and then I have people in like I had Marab and I'd oh I had Keith Jardin in the other day Keechardine, man, let's plug his new movie. Kill me again. Kill me again. Me and my wife went to Tribeca for the, and I saw Tate, Tate's in it, your buddy, Tate Flutcher. What a sweet ought to. Tate's the best. He's such a nice guy. Big, a big, a big, a big hugable bear. And it's almost this movie kill me again.

1:27:59He written and directed it, Keith Chardine. And it's basically Groundhog Day, but a serial killer. Oh, jeez. Oh, it's fucking, it's really good. It was I mean listen I I wouldn't even bring it up if I thought it was shit to be honest It was a fun movie you get it on Amazon. I believe you On Amazon Prime. It's on Amazon Prime. Yeah, I came out all his tape and And I'm proud of them and what a sweetheart that guy is yeah, he's Jordan's awesome He was in a great movie called shot caller. Yeah Was fuck Jamie Landis and he gets in you know, he's driving drunky but with his couple He's like a yuppie with another couple.

1:28:36You know, something happens to other, the guy gets killed in the back seat, goes to jail, kind of like, you know, white collard. And the next thing you know, he's got a fucking show. He's not a bitch. And now he's a hot and motherfuckers. Fucking shankin' people. John Bernathol's in there. Shot call, you like it. Shot call, it's forever. I remember that. Look at this. Yeah. This was a good fucking movie. And Keith John, see, he's, Keith John, the in his in this. Did, was Keith a bounty hunter? No, he was in his cold. He was the was he an actual bounty hunter in like real life. Yeah, man He didn't bring it up on the show unless he did I would remember see if that's true He was I went over his whole fucking hell.

1:29:15I'm not a man. He was more a grappler than he was even a strike Yeah, it was a bounty hunter Johnny worked as a personal trainer firefighter football coach minor and bounty hunter They minor in bounty that's to the hardest part of the human beings that have ever lived connected I said, it's so funny. He's very sort of spoken though. He's very like nice. It's just like, he's great guy. He looks like a fucking nice. That's a awesome fight. I asked him if he ever, because I said, you know, sometimes no matter you have seen thing and they go, yeah, Joe, can I have a picture of the wrong ball guy? I asked him.

1:29:45I asked him. I asked him about dating. They think I'm Dana. I asked him, I go, look, I go, you gotta answer this for me because have you ever been mistaking for the techno Viking? You know what I can do?

1:30:07Look like Pointed out that that might have been staged really The tech never like Jamie does not like the wool being pulled over his eyes Everything is staged. I don't know that look everybody's have there He's just like he's just like he's joining it's already questioned what's being filmed and right guys like center stage Yeah, I mean that's jamming do have a point there. You gotta point give this guy a bottle of water Let's go

1:30:39If I was still clubbing this high Yeah, 100 % look at oh boy. He's all Molly up. He's ready to go. Yeah Molly's He's probably got guys a boss. He's probably got one of them cruising doses in his system. Right? He's got millions behind him carrying his bottle. Probably legit Viking jeans too, man. I mean some of them. Fucking looks like it. Yeah. Got his thores hammer around his neck. Well, he looks like the 21st century version of it. Yeah. You know what would come on. Man, look at the original Vikings. Probably looked like those strong men dudes. You see coming out of the Iceland. I bet that's what you're about to buy the fuckers.

1:31:15Yeah, can you imagine a bunch of half -thorough Who's that guy that Viking dude that fights in Walter way to just fought chaos Williams? Oh The one looks like a fucking caveman Is it Andreas what is his name? Just like keep joining that's crazy It is Andreus Jamie. Could you could you go to chaos Williams Wikipedia look up his MMA career? Because chaos is fucking good man. He's hard. He's hard dangerous guy and he got warned the fuck this This is another one of those dudes what me and DC have been talking about this like Extreme physicality is a tool, you know and Coleman used to say this yeah I'm gonna just say that strength is a skill and I was like it kind of is a skill Andreas Gustafson.

1:32:13Yeah, this guy is fucking terrifying. Oh, it is a different dude and what you said see Go to Andreas Gustafson workout Just Google workout and this dude is Hard core power lifter like when you see some of this shit He's doing the amount of strength that this guy has you're like. Oh Jesus like there's guys You know, they're not that big right like you know see that janitor who pulls pranks on Instagram who walks up to these These big meetings and lifts up to stuff. He's not that big though But these super strong dudes who practice powerlifting you can be Incredibly strong and not look like a bodybuilder and that's this guy.

1:32:59He's a 185. No, he's a seven. Oh, she's 171 70 But this motherfucker is so strong man when he gets a hold of guys he's just ragdolling people You know chaos has been very consistent in his career with good takedown defense He knows how to fight guys off dangerous striker and he couldn't do shit to this guy It was like it was all over him As whooping like a real one -sided ass whooping that I didn't expect I was like that is I thought it'd be a good fight And it was just a mauling man. I thought chaos was going to clip him I could easily have the power that chaos has he puts guys out with one shot But this dude just tucks his chin down and wades bombs at you until he gets a grip on you And then just starts throwing you around one 70 he's well Yeah, it's one 70.

1:33:54I'll tell you who's the dark horse in that division for who's that impressive Sean Brady Oh I don't even think he's the dark horse. I don't want it. Yeah, after that Leon Edwards fight, people aren't talking about him enough though. That's what I'm saying. That Leon Edwards fight was crazy. I'll be with them tomorrow. Yeah, do it. He's looking great, Sean. I love his monster. Yeah, he's a monster. It's so funny. I had him on and he's like, you know, people always talking about me being short for well to wait on five nine. It's not like I'm five six or like, Yeah

1:34:27It's funny, but uh turtle muscle on his back Days you try to get a crush your head muscle. He's trying to get that Ian Gary fight I love is that what he's looking for right now? Well, everybody is just well, you know I would love to see him fight for the title. I mean, I think that's a reasonable fight Like with Jack Della like who's next after if Jack Della in Islam fight which seems to be the exact what's gonna happen. Who's next after that? Like who's in number one position right now? I think Ian Gary has to be up there. It's either Sean or Balao. Well, right. Ian Gary has one loss, right? Yes, he just comes out.

1:35:07That comes out. Shops, I've got. Shops, right. Real close fight with that one loss, setting back a little bit. So Balao's number one, but, you know, I bet they're gonna want Balao to fight somebody else they they seem to have a heart on for a ball. I don't know. Yeah. The numbers don't mean that's the fight that gets made. Right. Not always. I think Sean Brady's only the only problem the only one loss he has is from ball. Can you put that back up Jamie circuits who else is in there? Oh man. So it's like if you look at that division, you know, that division has gone through so many different changes.

1:35:45So you got Shavkat who just had some kind of surgery that's undisclosed, right? We don't know what injury he's recovered from, but he had like a pretty significant injury apparently. And then you got Leon. Come on. Aru. Michael Morales is the real dark horse at that division. Right. He fucked Gilbert Burns. He fucked him up. Yeah, that looked like Gilbert just didn't belong in. Sure did. And that's weird to see, right? And I don't know. It's Gilbert Fane. A lot of miles. Yeah, a lot of fights. Yeah, I like to see Sean Brady get his shot. That's what we working on. Dean Tom, he must be strong. He's strong as fuck.

1:36:24He's fucking strong. Yeah, he wears all of us. I do. I like this position. Yeah, his jujitsu is very, very good for fighting. I'll tell you, now I can't even watch some jujitsu matches. I watch, it's just fucking a lot of scissoring. I'll tell you what, man, I was blown away by Camaro versus Joaquin Buckley. I was blown. Oh, yeah, yeah. He look great. He look good. He look like a champion. He looks like he look like like if Joaquin was challenging Camaro for the title, that's the Camaro that you would expect to see. That's what he looked like. He got a good deal. He showed good IQ. But it also was the ability to move.

1:37:02Right. Like you didn't seem hampered by his knees. Right. Things that people talk about. And that's what we thought was going to see. We thought it was his old ass man with them bad knees. Didn't look bad at all. No, and I think, you know, it's a lot of it is mental strength of sure, but it's also like he hasn't really taken a lot of damage Other than the big high kick from Leon and you know if you go and you watch his fights Yeah, that's a pretty good war with Colby before he won. I mean they they exchanged a lot of blows You know Gilbert dropped him remember that. Yeah, but overall not a lot of damage in his career.

1:37:34Mostly he's been the dominator You know, so even though he's 37, I think. Yeah, he's still pretty fresh. All right. I thought it was good to see him go back to his wrestling roots a little bit. A lot of times the wrestlers get good with their hands and all of a sudden they forget about what got him to the show and he just straight manhandled. He did, but he also looked good on the feet man. He's good. He looked good everywhere in that fight. Yeah, good straight. Yeah, I thought Sean Brady looked great in his last fight with his hands too. 100%. and to do that to Leon, where you know Leon knows he can't lose again, he lost the title and he wants to come back and get it back and now all of a sudden you got this turtle shell motherfucker in front of you.

1:38:16Right? It seems insanely strong. How is Kobe still in these ranks? I was thinking about what I saw. I kind of crazy moron. I wonder how much of that would be because he's still super valuable. If you're a guy, why kick him out? If you're a guy like Shavcott and then off of you Colby, you know, in the main event of a fight night or something like that Yeah, like that's a great fight for both guys to probably make way more money Yeah, so how does that work with Paramount now? Here's the question I thought you'd have the insiders, I mean, I don't I don't talk to Dana about business, right? You know, yeah, I heard they're raising the young I'm more of a I'm almost a socialist when it comes to that shit I would be the worst they fucking fired me for sure.

1:39:01I would change the pay structure immediately You know, um, but I wonder if you're There's no paper if you want to mint that's the mind minutes such neuro gum the neuro men's I have the had the gum Well, I need it for my fucking brain

1:39:21Thank you looks dirty on the

1:39:27Yeah, I'm always giving myself mind minutes and all the shit and I'm still stupid But what were we just talking about? The pay structure. Oh yeah, you changed it. So they used to get the money from pay -per -view, right? So if you were a guy like Conor McGregor, that's gonna get two million pay -per -views, like you get a percentage of that, and you know, you set for life, right? You get one big one like that, and woo! How does that work now? So how does that work now? How's it working now if it's for free? There's no more pay -per -view. He did hear him saying he's up in the fight night. Yeah, the burnus is.

1:39:58I did see that. Yeah, the low hanging fruit that's easiest to answer bonuses are obviously going up. That's great That'll be big and forget about the tide rising with all the other fighters Just the number the bonuses bring to a fighter. It's millions of dollars. Okay. Well, that's great Okay, so then there's a bonus structure like if that many people watch your thing you get millions of dollars That's what he said that would be cool. That sounds great That's what the Paramounts got eight horn of loot and this is a great move for them. You know, we can sign up for Paramount Plus if you get free UFC's forever.

1:40:32That's crazy. That's great. And South Park, right? And South Park. And a bunch of other shows too. There's a shitload of shows. All of Taylor Sheridan shows are all Paramount shows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But did anybody see this coming? No one saw this coming. But we just finished all of the stuff. Yeah, Paramount. So I'm tight with Dana. And we were talking about the problems with this and the problems with that. But I need to ask him this weekend in Chicago, If it's true that the Netflix people wanted to stop the fights in the apex They didn't want any fights in the apex they want fights with like big crowds.

1:41:00Yeah, like they wanted to be big We want to be big big big big like all the all the fights big big yeah one of the best heavyweight fights of all time In terms of like the result was Francis and gone over to steep in meowchitch with no crowd at all in the apex in the small ring Yeah, it was not one of the best experience like you want to watch like a guy in his prime who's fucking terrified I just figured it all out versus the guy who's got He's a legend. He's a champion, but he's got a lot of miles on him and there's a lot of wars and You see it with no one there you're hearing the huff and huff of each breath Every time Francis hits him you you fucking feel that stud in your your your cells Hey, you don't got to sell me man.

1:41:43I love watching fights at the apex. Oh, I love it That's my favorite. Me too. I mean, I really believe that the small or cage just forces more action. Well, that too. You have that too. I just wanted to stay with downsize the arena cage because of the, you know, the quality of the fights that was in the small or cage. The problem with that is like when you got a guy that is just very footwork based and is developed to style your fucking large. You're fucking him. That's a fine. If he's developed to style based on this ability to move around a full size cage. This is a Netflix thing is from a troll account.

1:42:18Oh troll did it. I think so. Oh, that's good Well, who knows why they decided to not do it but man whoever gets the UFC and does the no pay -per -view model You just gained millions of subscribers instantaneously But I'm also like do you think it'll be better for the casuals now that everybody can see Everybody's gonna get every pay -per -view now for free. You may scroll through the channels like oh, let's do it I wonder how much money I'll save a year now. I'm not tired. You know, save me 80 a month or two. You know, you tune it in, you watch one Alex Pereira high kick knockout. You're like, oh shit.

1:42:54And then you're hooked. And then the next time it's on, you're like, oh, the UFC's on. And then boom, you've got more fans. I mean, it's the most exciting to the average spectator because you don't have to know anything. You have to know shit to watch guys just go to war. True. I'm just surprised that ESPN didn't stuff. Yeah, well, just yeah, well, I mean, it's seven point yesterday. I'm saying at 7 .7. I day, probably I was like, now we're good. Their app was shit anyway. Well, Paramount's giving them a billion dollars a year for seven years. I mean, that's wild. That's a lot of loot. Yeah. Yeah.

1:43:29I'm excited about that Aaron Peacock. Oh, yeah. This whole card is a very good card. Ron Murphy's no joke. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, you got on this. I got you. I'm in a Murphy's way. I'm not sure. I still am. Yeah. I think that the UFC jitters is a real thing, man. It is. He's a jitter's a real thing and Murphy is no joke. I am super solid. Super technical everywhere. Good footwork. And if Aaron wants to be a boxer, this kid is really explosive on his feet. Murphy is wrestling. Murphy is like, he does, but he don't use it enough. I don't believe. Murphy to me is very much like Leon Edwards in his prime Yeah, for sure very similar very similar strong everywhere super technical doesn't make any mistakes He's good man.

1:44:15I think I was thinking he's a more aggressive version too Leon could kind of cruise at times where I think Murphy's looking to finish his world championship potential He's certainly world championship potential. He is coming on short notice, too. Who is Murphy? Yeah, but he's a consummate I mean, I'm not going to come out professional. He's just got it straight up. He's straight up. He's ready. He said three weeks might be too much time because he's ready all the time. Well, this is the word out of that part that camp is that he, that guy's always training. And which is what you want to see from a guy like that who's undefeated and also not getting the shine that a lot of other guys in that division are getting.

1:44:50Props they've been taking the fight too. There's so many fight by that. Good guys in that division, you know, when Ilius such a star that everybody with Volkanovsky in there, Ya 'eer, and everybody kind of got lost. There you go. Is it a five -rounder? It's the co -main event. It's a three -rounder. That's three -rounder. That's three -rounder, okay. Yeah. Oh, shit. That could change. I thought it was. It is, it is co -main, but it's still three rounds. I read that today. That's cool. Well, that changes things. What am I? I see. Yeah, it's interesting because Pico is really good, man, but I would have liked to see him against someone to establish a name for himself.

1:45:29I thought you had a really good shot at beating Movesar. Well, Movesar is crazy because the grappling for Movesar is just off the charts, but you're not dealing with the kind of kicks that you're dealing with with Murphy. With Murphy, he's going to chop you up on the outside. And if you're heavy on that front leg because you like boxing, like, ooh, a couple of those calf kicks, change everything. I know. Got a lot of spin and attack with you. Yeah, a lot of everything. He's a problem. He's a problem. He's a problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought Al Jolby I thought Al Jolby was only cooked around and did with with Mosar on top, but he was dominating that I thought I was going to fight as well.

1:46:05I thought Al Jolby was close, but I thought Al Jolby was close. Most far is very, very, very good. But that's a good fight for Pico. Pico's an elite grappler and he's got real dangerous hands, real dangerous hands. I thought Pico would have beat him. It would have been a great fight for him. It would have been interesting fight for him. This is a different fight. Yeah. This is a different And I think it's more dangerous fight in a lot of ways just because of his style the footwork Yeah, it's gonna be tough for people. He's tough man Murphy's tough and again, he's one of those guys that is way better than his Public like a persona So many guys in that division man that the division's crazy.

1:46:44Yeah filled with killers. Yeah, I think this car is a good one Killer's in charge to a juggle open. Yeah, yeah, John silver. Yeah, silver. So that fight is going to be. I know. Are you going to that? That's in Guadalajara. No, it's in a tenio. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What were you saying? Yeah, yeah. It's in Texas. I might go to that. It's that John Silva guy looks like a world champion. And it's another one. He looks like a world fucking champion. For sure. He's a character too. Oh, yeah. The barking in general. I like that. But what he did to Bryce Mitchell was just, well, he sent them down. You face him down the panel.

1:47:20Yeah, big self light headed barking out at the at the welfare earlier. Yeah, I got a little ahead of the fact that he is like so relaxed and laughing and like it's just he just knew as a matter of time and then submitted him and put him to sleep. What's funny about that is Bryce Mitchell who just went down and wait. Look great. Great. So that's the right division for the other side of the room. And he's got two choices. is bulk way up and cut down, which is what most of these guys are doing. Or go to 135, which he looked great. And that was just disciplined for him. Just got a little bit better life.

1:47:52But he was never like real ripped at 45. He's eating cornbread on the farm and shit. I don't know what he eats. I'm sure he can tell these. He's, I mean, he's a very good grappler. I'll tell you that. That guy's dangerous. He's got good stuff. Really, really good jujitsu. Real smart. I've seen a lot of his tutorials online. like very, very good stuff. But you know, John Silva's just a different thing, man. There's guys that are just better everywhere. Yeah, and I thought he would have gave Ilya a problem. I think so too. Yeah, like if I really stayed down and he fought John Silva, I thought that was gonna be a problem for Ilya.

1:48:26Yeah, both have one punch knockout power. And John Silva's a very good kicker. Yeah, very, it's different. Like Ilya does not throw a whole lot of kicks and most of them went to the legs. Right, Ilya is not throwing any head kicks. I'm sure he can. I mean he might do that just because we're talking shit right now. Yeah What Eliad us do is he touches you and that's what for us. Ah hobby calls the touch of death He's got that touch of death man when he did that shit to Charles. I was like I can't even believe I'm seeing this They folded him folded No, I know I know remember we talked about that like you know, yeah, I think we were the back time was like No one no one should be doing this and he goes out there and does it yeah I'm not on pump and iron when he was never he's telling me for egg no breakfast.

1:49:12Yeah, I called my parents. I won already That's a big difference though. All he has to do is flex and is under way earlier had a go out there and knock I was over there with one punch. That was wild man. That dude has pow Floor too Like I mean I saw like I said I saw footage of him in Marab wrestling like you know I don't know where they were and he I didn't see anybody get caught in in this Video but like Ilia just seemed to be one step ahead and yes, and the wrestling exchanges, you know So he's he's at least or Morab's level and Morab's a savage You know what he does? It's really interesting He he talked about it on the podcast.

1:49:52He trains each sport individually and then he puts them all together So he doesn't train MMA jiu jitsu So he trains Jiu Jitsu with Jiu Jitsu guys. So he trains with elite Jiu Jitsu guys, elite wrestlers, he wrestles with elite wrestlers, boxes with elite boxers, does everything and then puts it all together himself. I mean, that is the way to do it. But if it's like, I'm using it together with that. Yeah, right. Interesting how some camps don't do that. You go there and you know, you have everybody's doing MMA. He's like entering into Jiu Jitsu spaces, training there, entering into boxing spaces.

1:50:23I think it's smarter with you. And because that, like, we all know that the boxing boxing is at a higher level than the boxing in the UFC. There's no way to be as good as David Benavite as if you're not boxing your whole fucking life and doing it every day and only doing that. There's no way. You're not going to be as good as that. Right, for sure. And so we know that. So but if you can get more closer to that by training with them and only training with them, you get a little bit of a tabooia. Yeah. I mean, that's what you get. That's what you get. You get a guy who's boxing with boxers. I think you retain more details.

1:50:57Yeah. But man, the discipline you have to have to do all those things with the same kind of intensity and then put it all together. Well, I mean, he's got a very, like he's, and that's the benefit of not having like this big camp going at all. Right. Like when you're just by yourself and everybody around you is helping you get to these places and do those things, it's a huge benefit. Yeah. And it's also like today we know what everybody else could do, too. Like if you're at a certain level like Ili is already you know your abilities like you don't necessarily have to be In a camp where there's a bunch of people right.

1:51:34Yeah, that's what I'm saying like you don't need that Yeah, you know which guys you have to bring in here's bar and Concentrate everything on you that way you're not dealing with all these dudes in the locker room That maybe you got beef with and Colby's talking shit We're all friends and you just trying to use the saw to fuck off Colby Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like there's something to be said for them really small camps. Yeah, I think, you know, as we move forward and evolve, man, I think that's the direction it's going. Like all the big guys, I'm gonna be like, yeah, for sure. Could you imagine Floyd Mayweather in class with everybody else?

1:52:10Right, exactly. Okay, you go I go, you're like, that shouldn't happen again. With a blue belt, you get two glasses. Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. Yeah, I mean, and most of those guys would take their camps outside, you know, like Muhammad Ali did it Tyson did it a lot of these guys they would go somewhere go to big bear Yeah, I was running their people around yeah, yeah, she what about a way Crawford and Canelo what do you think of that personally? I'm a big Crawford fan. So I'm gonna lean his way my only My only concern is just the size. It didn't look like Terrence's power transferred in the last fight.

1:52:50So we got some more. Up some more, you know what I mean? Part of the problem with that is my drum was really good. It's really fucking good. I mean, but I just think Crawford is weird to say against Canelo, but I think he's the better boxer and I think he's the guy who can make the better in -fight adjustments if Canelo doesn't kill him. It's going to be interesting. Tell you that. What do you think? I don't know. You know, I'm it's a big jump to go from 54, which was a step up from 47 right now goes to 54 and now he's gonna 68 that's so much weight a lot of weight, but Terrence is I think he's the best switch hitters since Hagler they claim I'm Hagler was my favorite they I mean they claim he's walking around like a buck nine Year something and you do know he's a wrestler.

1:53:33Yep, so he's got that mentality to him He also built up slowly like he took his time like it's been a long time training for this fight He was he came on this podcast more than a year ago and he was talking about that. That's the fight He wants and that was a long time ago. So he's been trying to get that fight for a long time So knowing after he beat aero spence that he wasn't ever gonna fight it that way again and then going up fighting Madramov and then knowing he's got like at least a year before he fights all right. He got pretty big Yeah, I like him. I'm leaning but but he's slick man. He's slick.

1:54:07He's super intelligent. Like he sets traps. He does stuff and then, you know, there's a bunch of great breakdown videos of particularly the Aerospace Fight. Like him setting traps. It's just, he's a very high level guy, but... Canelo is dangerous. He broke Billy Joe Saunders' whole face. Broke his whole face. What he did to a Miracan? Remember that? Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, Lordy. And Barsdordy. And never been down. Never been dropped. Yeah, Kennell was just done. Yeah, Terrence M. Nate, oh, rented out the apex for a while. It was training there. Kids running out of the kids running around all on the mat.

1:54:42I was like, get these bad ass kids out there. He was using the apex. Yeah, he was using the apex. I don't know. I'd see it with that. 30 people, you know. One guy running with 30 people. Half of them in suits. How many times did he use it? He was there for a while. Really? Yeah, they were training at the apex. Interesting. And this was getting ready for this fight? Yeah, getting ready for this fight. Well, that makes sense because the UFC is co -provoking. Yeah, yeah. Dana is a part of that. I saw on their website, I saw like, you know, by the Canelo Crawford fight, now in my head, I was like, holy shit.

1:55:14And then I was like, oh, yeah, Dana's involved with this. Yeah, that's something you never thought you'd see. It's interesting, because it's like, I wonder how that's gonna affect combat sports. Like, what's gonna happen? I mean, if the UFC model gets, if they start making fights that people want, like there's a lot of fights that people just want, that just don't get like if David Benavita's in Canelo, or as we're in the UFC, that would be the fight to make. The UFC would have to figure out later. Hey guys, like these are the guys. You guys have to fight. Like this is the fight. Like this can't be, I'm gonna do something else.

1:55:48I'm gonna fight Jake Paul. Yeah. It's gotta be this is the fight. They gotta change their culture though, you know, because a loss in boxing means a lot more than a loss in MMA. Like the MMA fans are more accepting, especially if the fight was good, we're unboxing. Their whole role is to build you to 20, so they can get you title fights and they're finding people for you along the way. Look, Kennell lost to Beval and he lost to Floyd, and I don't think it really damaged him that much. He's still a super -scoot. Well, Floyd, he was, at that time, Floyd was the superstar, so I think it probably, I mean, Floyd jumped him at the right time.

1:56:22And Beval, like, I mean, again, Kennello was doing his thing, moving up and weighed and dancing that sort of thing. Yeah, as far as business model I wonder if he's gonna with Dana involved like the problem with boxing is nobody gives a shit about the Undercard they show up for the main card. Is it possible for him to make it as exciting as a UFC where he's got the whole lineup where the fights You want to see is there that many boxes out there that Oh, yeah, for sure they can do that and that they're trying to do that And that's one of the things that they're doing with those reaude series fights.

1:56:53Yeah So like you're they're trying to create the league and I think that's where it gets all into the Legislation and all that stuff is changing the alley acting on stuff, but so I mean it gets a little tricky But I mean the the goal is to create a league to where boxers can go and then like losses won't mean as much That might say that's that might change right there because nobody really gives a fuck that much with the mixed martial arts You got your fan favorite you got guys you want to see you got fight you want to make people give them shit about Pereric got knocked out by Izzy and he didn't lose any Star right nothing nothing zero exactly and then he came back and won the light heavyweight title everybody's like he's back Shootin his arrows he's bad Walk out ever best walk out ever no one's walk out.

1:57:37It's like his it's a spherical Calm Walson for Nando Vargas Junior. That's good fight Nando Vargas Junior. That's great Yeah, so these are two good fight There's two good fights under the thought as well, but it's like They're gonna have to do this consistently and build these people up and have you know real good video series like the UFC Does with embedded and what they do with the countdown show? Yeah, just really get everybody excited about it. I mean is that a bad thing? No for I mean No, people are being critical of the idea of that, but to me it sounds like a good thing not to get a bunch of high -end fights on one card?

1:58:16Well, no, I'm just saying like the idea of like a league for boxes to where there's a promotion that will do stuff like that form because boxes not doing a form. They got to be selling. Well, it's all in how much money is getting distributed, right? So the boxes that make a lot of money are the canelos, the fluids, the people that are super stars, they make a lot of money. Right. But dudes that fight on undercards that you're watching on TV, shit, don't make shit. Right. And that's where everybody gets confused. Yeah. Yeah, you watch UFC fights and there's people that are under under cards that are making way more money than the undercard people in a boxing Right way more money tons.

1:58:48Yeah, so it depends on who's on the card, you know, it really the the The majority of the money. I'm sure is going to the top guys. Whereas in the UFC It's probably a more spread through a little more spread the big middle class Yeah, but they don't have a high end. That's the same like Oosik made made 114 million something like that. How much that fucking cost? How many bars did that fucking? How many bars did that fucking? Made like 70 something million? They're just throwing that oil money. I mean, I might even be selling U6 number wrong. I think it might've been like 130. That's ridiculous.

1:59:25No, crazy money. Crazy money for that Dubois fight. So that's the difference. So that's only possible with the boxing model. Right. So the guys who eat the most are going to eat the most most with the boxing model, but do you think that people underneath that are not going to be doing you think that fight made any money? Like if I'm if I'm giving 200 million out between the two guys that are fighting to fight they're not getting that many pay per views. They got that black gold. That's how they sustain that business model though if that's how they're doing it right now like people scream about these guys has making more money, but like the UFC would be at a business if they paid that money because we're just not bringing that money.

2:00:10Or get the Saudis to pay everybody's saying. Let's take advantage of that black gold. Those dudes don't give a fuck. That money for them is like me ordering a pizza. Like everybody gives a pizza, I'll make it all. They're gonna get a pizza delivered. They don't give a fuck. They're making insane amounts of money. Like we don't even know how much money they have because it's not public. It's not like us like you know like Bayzo's like disclosed as well like the rich are shman on the world like are you sure? Yeah, well you gotta think this gotta be so much if they're paying these guys 100 million dollars to box to box not even do nothing like World change I think that's why cannello was holding out with benefitus because the word the number that I heard was that 200 million you want a 200 million?

2:00:54Oh, I'll fight benefitus Got much like what that seems like they're kind of close to that. Yeah, we know if they're they're getting in the 130s for ESA. This is crazy. That's so much money They guarantee somebody you gotta if they do a new model they They got it like look the early prelims a shit. I don't miss those Hey, you got you got etsin Barbosa on early prelims This car was deep man. I mean that's a fucking sick fight right there. Yeah, yeah, two guys that want to bang it out I like that your call close he's never had his his quite his day like he gets to a certain level. Yeah, and then What is his name fucking Bruce peruse You see I give me another

2:01:44Greatness last right yeah, yeah, yeah, you look real good. He's more kind of he look real good against boycono, right? Yeah He's a great fighter and he's getting a little bit older too, you know, they're fuzzy with that great. I know what he looks like you 50. Yeah, he's a savage. He'd be great in that mochano fight. Yeah, he's very good, man. It's a great, great time for watching fights, you know, who else is on the cards this weekend? Jeff Neil, that's right. Tim Elliott, I don't know. Kai Asakura. Yeah, bro, Prata's, Prata's and Jeff Neil, that could be a bang. It's an epic it all depends on which Jeff Niel shows up 100 % on 100 % the good one show up I think he knocks prattas out.

2:02:28How about I think Carlos Prattas takes this in the first round with an archive Oh, and then is Jared Cannon here in Michael page. Yeah, that's the puzzle. Yeah, how about how that dude just goes from middle Way to well to way doesn't give a fuck yeah just and no one even seems to talk about the fact that he's going up and down and wait I'm just a huge fan and he's like 64 I'm a huge face Crazy that he can make light that he can make well to wait but also super fight I think the only person to figure him out was Ian Gary. You got to drag him to the ground Yeah, man Brian Bound on Rooza boy. That's a good fight.

2:03:02That dude is gigantic I was a Walter wait for a while to go to the boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he lost a walk him. Yeah, he was like a six five Walter wait, but he hits hard. Yeah dangerous dangerous dude Yeah, so he went up to 185. Yeah, he trained. Yeah, I think he without training with Hobbes out a little bit though. Oh, yeah, yeah, a little bit for this camp. Was this his second or third mid -await? Because he quit. Well, I think that last buckly fight, he was like enough of this Walter Waite bullshit. Yeah, Brian Battle is, I love when he fucking sets a second fight. I love with Brian Battle for what in France?

2:03:41Was it in Paris? Oh, yeah, yeah. He's like, there's no way he think I'm gonna lose a fist fight to a French dude. There's no way to put your, yeah, it's gonna lose. He's a big one man, bruh, bruh, bruh, bruh. To a French dude. Oh, damn. There all boon him. Oh, he's fucking mad. It's awesome. Well, everybody's got to remember, that's what Colby did when he beat, and, yeah, he did. Damien, he did it in my hand, Brazil. He was classy though, like, way less classy. But he was going full W. W. He saved his life. It's a career. Oh, it made him millions. It made a million because they were cutting them.

2:04:19Yeah To be set I agree But there's something to be said if you're if you're purely business minded talk a lot of shit Yeah about people's dead father What a piece of shit? You know what I mean? Yeah, you talk like that you're looking over your show He could be having a cup of tea and fucking London a year from now with 10 years from now if Leon Edwards runs into What do you think's gonna happen? Right. Remember you brought up my dad for all the motherfucker. I mean dude, there's stuff stuff some stuff you could do for the entertainment But then a man, we talked about repercussions bro I want to talk about somebody's wife or kids or dead parents.

2:04:55Yeah, I think even with Connor in the beginning He was a funny shit talker and then it seemed later in the career It was more almost like forced like Trying to be the darker now at a darker. It's no fun Well, it's also you're dealing with people that are dealing with the pressures of being at the top of one of the most dangerous Occupations in the world and every day when you go to bed You know there's some dude out there that wants to kick you in the fucking dick He's out there training and did that pressure like sometimes wears on guys and over the course of time They get like neurological fatigue like you're just fatigued from the just a strange Don't give a fuck no more.

2:05:37You just have to say a dumpster and then you got CTE and you know So there's a lot of things going on. I mean also the pockets get fatter under that microscope even more and then there's down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down If you wanna hang out, you got to take over out. It's crazy and he probably got some good stuff. I might try Connor's Coke. I never tried coke. But if I was gonna try it from Connor. Man, it's not even like Hiding it, man. I mean, man. You got to love that part of him. He's a pure savage. He don't care about that. He's a pure savage. That's also why he was so good at fighting, man.

2:06:23In the middle of the Jose Aldo fight, I remember looking in his eyes and watching how calm, like genuinely calm he was. I'm like, this guy just, and Dana said it best. He's like, he eats pressure. He just eats it. He likes it. He wants it to be chaos. It's got to guys say that, but they don't really believe. Yeah, I was I was at that fight. Thank you Joe and When he came in like I tell a story to everybody about him when he came in did his thing he ran around the cage And then he went in the center to cage and he just fucking went like this. Yeah, and the place he Rupped it and I was like God almighty how fucking was that when sonato So comfortable did see the car she came did the walk out song for that one was one of them she did the walk out song for it She's saying it live.

2:07:09I remember. Bone chilling away. Fuckin' away, right. Oh shit. You know what's a funny thing is when you see a clip of him saying that there's somebody's interviewing him and he goes about parting. He goes parting is weakness for your soul. So I'm showin' like that. And then there's a clip of him now. What the hell? What the fuck are you going? At least he's the blade music. The song is just all right. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Right? right? That opening scene is right. Right. Right. Right. But now he was man, he was something else. It's Chabendus. Oh my God. Like how much shitty was talking to him, but you still in it?

2:07:46Like even he got rocked, he goes down. He still comes up and still knocks him out. And he overest. Oh, New York. That was the last class. Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, going up to challenge for a second world title and hitting the matrix. Yeah. Full matrix in a fight with a killer. Like Eddie's a fucking killer, man. Definitely. What he did to half -ailed Los Angeles to win the title. Wild performance. Those fights that he had with Chandler that those guys took 10 years off each of his lives. And sorry my ass. We got those toys. They're the best. There it is. Eric she goes. This is the 5 before. This was the Chad Mendez 5.

2:08:26UFC 189. Oh. It's loud to tell. But the Angela spells for the lefty swans. Right out. And the best part about this is how he walks out with his giant fucking leprechaun smile on his face. Yeah. watch this get to way walks out Jamie look at him that dude just knew how to hand of pressure. He thrived in it.

2:09:27That was a fight that he couldn't even grapple. He couldn't even grapple in training. He can't be fucked his knee up. And that's one of the reasons why Chad was able to take him down so easily. He had a hard time training for that fight. He fucked Chad up. We got him Chad he got up off the sofa for this one. Oh, yeah, he did too. Yeah, seven days or something. Yeah Bro Chad's second fight with Aldo he got fucked I remember I reached out to him after the fight I'm like damn dude because the the first round after the bell Aldo cracks him and rocks him like for the first time in the fight He got rocked and clearly after the bell like damn That's terrible.

2:10:05Yeah, after you got knocked out by the guy in the first fight You come back in the second fight the first rounds widely entertaining and then you get hit with a shot after the bell Yeah, I mean it was still a great fight though. There's still great fight But it makes me wonder like if that shot doesn't land that that's a real shot man That was a different that was like a real like you're almost out shot Yeah, and if you could hit with one of those in a fight that significantly changes the fight Yeah, significantly changes it give me some volume

2:10:38See, Chad still has a record all right there. I mean, that's kind of way after the buzzer. Right, way after the buzzer. But, and that dropped them. But Aldo was coming on strong. Clearly. Aldo was coming on strong. Yeah, dude, Prime Aldo, I don't know who's better. Like that guy's a fucking monster. It's amazing how good he still is when he fought Zahabi. And I think he loves down. I know. I was like, damn, dude, he's still really fucking good and really fast. And down a weight class. Yeah, yeah, as he got older those guys don't go down weight class. I know, but I mean when you look at how muscular He is at 45 and then you think about like what Max did to him that muscle comes with a price You know and when Max that put that pace on him He can keep up first got to really expose him and put that pace Jose was all fast twitch You know, I mean remember when he doubled need fucking cubs How about this Marab didn't take him down.

2:11:32I know You could take him down how crazy is that he does have great take down these 38 years into his career Yeah, right like and Marab couldn't take that guy down couldn't take him down Well, he his balance is crazy. What do you took down? What's his name? Peter Yon like ten times? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't take all though down. Yeah, that's why And now those jujitsu was good. Yeah, very good is that double knee like Wow, what the fuck man and cub is it was a stud too? Oh, bro. He was a monster. He was all dough was a mark Look he's trying to hit him even after the referee's pulled him off WEC was double need to the dome They had some talent.

2:12:10Oh, yeah for sure man, and this was when Aldo was in his The like kicks remember he murdered you rise like kicks. Yeah, oh my god Yeah, you're right. I'm like that leg was fucked up man. Yeah, he told me two weeks the photos are not too weak. He was on crutches. He said, yeah, man, he was in his prime. He was something really special. But you know, it's like how long can you keep that up? He's kept it up more than anybody, like really? Because he's still a world class, like a world class caliber at Bannemweight. I mean, he was food for 10 years. Nobody touched him. That's a long time. The rain, especially in a way division like that, where the town keeps coming.

2:12:50He just kind of gasped out in that last round because he was going for the finish. He emptied out in Zahabi survived. Yeah, I mean, you could make a argument for Aldo and that was a close fight. I don't think he got stomped out or nothing. But I mean, how good was he to himself to know that he's retiring probably because he feels like he can't do it at the level he knows he can. He's true. And he's still doing it at a high level. You hear what I'm saying? Right. But in his head, he's like, I'm not doing it at the level. I want to be able to do it. So I'm just going to retire. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah.

2:13:20That division, man. Puh! Between 35 and 45. It's interesting that 25 gets so little love. Like, Pantos is only 10 pounds lighter. Oh, I know, I know. He's a... He's a straight -up killer. Yeah, he's a straight -up killer. It is crazy, though. Like, nobody cared about Mighty Mouse, and that guy was maybe the top martial artist, didn't he? Oh, that take down to on -lock that time. Wait, wait, wait. I don't know if you'll ever see something like that. But it's crazy that it's only 10 pounds. I know. I know. No, you can't tell the difference like how do you hear why you tell the difference people get real weird?

2:13:55They get real weird They just have this bias towards well, I mean it was like our shit like we were light weights and they cut our division after that Old tournament yeah, and who did thought the light weights would be the best division and you go on a white True, they asked me to go back up to well to wait. I didn't just go why let me fucking I was making weight Those big guys, you know, well the UFC just had a weird position I mean, when before it really took off, they were just trying to figure out, we got to figure out a way to make money doing this thing. What do people not want to see? And if someone has this idea, oh, the problem is the lighter weight divisions.

2:14:29Yeah, yeah. Those are the most exciting ones. They are. Look at them now. Like the, it's usually what a much paladin is too. It's a crazy fight we've seen. 35, 45, 55. Pantosh is a great champ, man. Yeah, he defended it, what, three, four times? What do you do? Well, he's so good too. Any massacres everybody. Yeah, no, great your chitsoo. He's got really good striking. Yeah, he takes takes torch or well, too. Yeah, yeah, he's an animal I think he made high car France look bad and I and the first fight was good. I know they had a good fight Yeah, like nine years ago or eight years ago what it was but the difference between how much better pantosha goes right away It was obvious.

2:15:05He's another guy. He was doing Uber eats when he was here fighting in the UFC and he's still fucking working He's a real humble guy. Yeah, he's like a real, just the sweetheart of a guy. Good for him. You know, this guy you want to see do well. Exactly. But that's why I wish the guy got more love. It's like, I don't understand. You know, if he was 145, he'd be a superstar. Right? Just the idea of being a flyweight just as people spooked out to root for him. I know. I don't get it. Yeah. It's weird. It's weird, but it's always been that way. Even sohuto, you know, when he's a champ. And you know, when Mighty Mouse is a champ, I'm like kind of with everybody.

2:15:42Yeah. Figueroid didn't get the love that he deserved. Brand of Roy Val. My Rob's getting the love. He's getting a lot of love. Yeah, definitely. But it's always like, it's always like, yeah, but they're flyweds. Yeah, I know, yeah, but fly, flyweds are worst divisions. No, they're not. Like what, I wonder what the biggest flyway pay -per -view of all time was. Like how many people, you know what I mean? It would have to be, it's gotta be pretty low. It would have to be a mighty mouse one, probably. Wouldn't you think? That's so, I'm talking about that. Maybe there's more people I mean yeah, yeah, I would think that may have been when pan tocha did it in Brazil Because they probably had a lot of Brazilians on the right right pan tocha or say that was the fight, too Like that not high.

2:16:24Yeah, it's got it's pretty low. Yeah Shit man, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. I enjoy all the fucking weekly. It's all I watch man Even though I can't even watch the boxing. I wish I could I don't know it's just so It's not nearly as entertaining as the mixed martial arts and the fact that there's one on like every week I needed to be a good one like like a two good boxers I'll tune in I'm a boxing fan too, but I mean if I have a choice Wanna watch it? Did you watch usick and Dubois? I did It's like usick is like lemonchenko plus a hundred pounds like you know He's got great footwork. He's a great technical boxer now He's starting to put people out too before he was just that boxing people so especially Doboa when you see what he did to AJ in the last what is he gonna do he's beat everybody twice And the heavyweight division who do they have left form well Tyson Fury was talking about coming back But then he looks like he changed his mind Yeah It's a young man's book.

2:17:23Yeah, he's not that old but he if anybody could have beaten him It could be in his prime because particularly you know in you know, in moments in the first fight, especially in the early rounds, before he got dropped to the ninth, he was doing really well. He was lighting him up. He was more damaged than he heard. He was a senior Usook take in a fight ever. And more clean shots that were landing. I mean, look, Tyson was a fantastic boxer. Oh, yeah. Don't let the dad bod fool you. Oh, yeah. He was light on his feet, you know, very technical. I mean, he obviously has a size and reach advantage over Usook.

2:18:00when he gets a jab pop and he's tough to beat. Yeah, it's not just a jab. He's got a slick upper cut. He's got a crisp right hand movement. He's defensive slick. He's a france. He's a france all time great boxer. All time great. It's Francis little boxing or is he doing everything? Yeah, no. Is he gonna do it again? Yeah. They were talking about setting up a Francis Deonte Wilder fight. That would be interesting. Yeah, I don't know. They need to make that happen. But boxing you always get sucked in. It's like there's these sto... Like are they doing that? How they doing that? No, they don't do it.

2:18:27How they doing it? How they doing it? Yeah, I mean, it's one of the problems with the sport. Well, this is the Benevita's canal situation because if you ask the average, if you want a hardcore boxing fans dream fight, it's not necessarily Canelo and Crawford, which is a great fight, but you got this thing where Crawford's jumping up all this way and you're like, man, I don't know, but the great fight is Canelo, Benevita's everybody knows it. Right. Everybody knows it. That's the fight. Can't make it happen though. Spin going on forever. Pacquiao should have floated along. That's what I was gonna say, like it happens all the time.

2:18:59You can't never make the big fights happen. That has to happen. That fight has to happen. If boxing is to be complete, the circle of power is to be folded over onto whatever, the rocks you get for your ring, whatever Thanos gets. Yeah, that fucking infinity stone. That's how it's all right guys. We're going back in the conversation. He had to go in, right? If that's the only way it happens. Like you have to have that fight. That's the fight. And if they fuck that up and if like he goes up and now now Benavitas is fighting light heavyweight more You know, it's like I don't think it happens fact.

2:19:35I don't think terrible. I don't think it happens always gonna be too late Can that was five on loose back surgery? Did he? No shit? Yeah He had it on his Instagram. He said his back's been fucking with him for 10 years and he finally got surgery like Well that might or might not help bite back surgery is always like 50 -50. Should I had I had one and I knock on wood it gave me my life back. I had sciatic of fucking horribly. Would you get which surgery? They well they did a laminectomy from like L2 all the way through S1. I was all over the ballroom. Like well I had I had stenosis of what was happening so the bones were growing and and pushing on the nerves.

2:20:15I mean I would get up in the morning and be fucking holding my wall to get through the bathroom. And still rolling back. You know still rolling Now, Tom's just a nice beat. You feel bad? He said it when we get in, 40 years old. Oh, it always hurts. The black shit's the worst. I had to get an epidural shot. Yeah, I remember when I blew my head. I tried, I was trying this piece of it. When you first, you first, you first, you first, you the second time you're back was fine. It was back in January, New Year's Eve, I couldn't, I could hardly walk. But then I got to, the Dr. Yasha, when my black belt, see, I went to the city, got the epidural shot.

2:20:49And that fucking started to bring me back. Yeah. Yeah. But I literally couldn't walk. Yeah. When I would go to brush my teeth, I couldn't posture myself up. I don't know. It was fucking bad. It was the worst thing ever. And think about that. And then knowing that you have a cage fight coming up against a guy who's the best wrestler in the division. That's what I said. How do you fight that motherfucker with a bad back? Yeah. Well, shit. You sort of rematch. But the first one's way better. Not it. Yeah. Shit. But yeah, there's stuff that you can do for your back, but man It takes a long ass time to heal back injuries naturally.

2:21:25What's going on with yours? You were saying Mine's a lot better now man, and one of the things that I made sure I did this year is I do Twice a week. I do lower back exercises like core exercises with twists and turn lifting like do back extensions with weights That changed everything. Yeah, dude. I do hypers and a reverse hyper machine for my lower back I do that too. Yeah, he used to bother me when I'd play pool. I'd be done. I'd be like a real stiff and that completely went away Good and it really would it all fucked up was from archery because you know You pull one way all the time and this side started getting this You're almost like a ten to nine.

2:22:03No, no, no I just ignored it and beat it into the ground and even though it was in pain. I'd still kept shooting while I was in pain So I fucked it up for months now I draw I have a cable pulley system at my gym So I hold a 10 pound weight and then I draw 80 pounds like I'm pulling a bow and I pretend I'm shooting a bow So I do that for as many reps as I shoot arrows. I do that with my left side so nice More balanced now and then the lower back exercises, but fuck it takes forever To not if you don't if you want to really heal something and really get it better and not get surgery It takes forever Let me ask you with the with the bow hunting.

2:22:40Why would he got against the gun? What makes you want to? Is it more primitive? Is it more primal? It's definitely harder. It's more difficult for sure and it requires more concentration and it's much easier to fuck up and that's why I like it. It's harder. But it's more satisfying to get into the animals too. I've shot a lot of animals with rifle hunting and it's great. It's very effective. It's real smart. It's a good way to hunt. If you're hunting for food, like if I had to provide food for my family, I would 100 % be hunting with a rifle. 100%. No questions asked if that's what I'm doing. But what I'm doing is I'm trying to get meat with my hobby.

2:23:22So my hobby is archery and it's like calling it a hobby is like a little disrespectful. It's almost it sounds very corny, but it's almost like a spiritual journey. Like you're going to the woods and you're sneaking up, I'm doing it with a guide, there's a good friend of mine and we go together. And we're sneaking up on these animals that are trying to avoid mountain lions and bears, and you're getting within archery range of them and just launching a perfect arrow. And that's how you're getting your food. So every time you eat your food, it's the best food in the world, but you're also thinking how you got it.

2:24:00You worked hard for a whole year to prepare for it, You train for it, I do cardio for it, I carry a weighted backpack. I put this fucking 45 pound plate on my back and I walk around for hours. I do a bunch of shit with these different exercises just for hunting training. Well, how much is, how close is archery range? Like how close should I get to? I'm comfortable, anything inside 70 yards, if I don't think the animals like moving a lot. So if an animal's moving a lot, like in the rut sometimes they're fighting other males so they're running each other and they'll come back and like then you can't take a shot like that because they're not gonna be there when you shoot the they're moving so fast yeah it's not ethical with a rifle you could with a rifle you just need to stop for a second then just stop for a second boom and you got them did you ever shoot him but miss the kill shot you gotta go over to it and It's that kind of broke.

2:24:57What do you do when you do that? I mean, it's all the same. I think I'm with a second arrow. I mean, even if you hit them perfectly, and I've hit an elk perfectly before, they don't, if they don't go down, they're standing there. If they're, as long as they're standing, you hit them with another arrow. That usually takes them out. Yeah, you gotta do it. You gotta do it as track. You gotta run, you gotta run, not enough. Now you gotta track them down. They're so tough. You'll track them and you're like, this is so much blood, there's no way this thing's not gonna be dead five feet from here and then you'll find them 800 yards away dead.

2:25:29It's crazy. They're so tough because you're dealing with an animal that's like every day is mountain lion season. Every day there's mountain lion just sneaking up on them everywhere you know and you know if they make it to be seven eight years old which is when I start hiding them like these motherfuckers. They're gangsters. They're wild. Some of them have one eye because They're either I poked out by another dude because they get those antlers. Yeah, I'm into this face my favorite me is the The Venison oh my god I like you help me have you had an I don't think so no I wish I wish you lived here.

2:26:08I'd give you some my my father. Oh, he I have he say it's game Rosie's there. Oh, I'm frozen elk out there right now if I had a freezer box I could give you shit man I mean my phone because they say the venison they say it's gamey or something dude not the way he makes it like Yeah, if you know how to make it, it's all in how you're so fucking good. It's all in taking proper care of it once you shoot it. If you let the animal lay out in the heat or if the meat gets dirty, or if you accidentally cut the glands, they have these tarsal glands in your legs, that's nasty smell that they're putting out so that the ladies here, the lady smell it rather, and the other men know that they're there.

2:26:45If that stuff gets on your meat, you're fucked. There's a lot of it is like bad preparation, bad care. But if you take care of Venice and do it, well, it's the best meat. Oh delicious. So delicious man I I love that shit. I don't have it often but when I do it's my favorite man The UFC PI should be serving that shit. I bet they serve like Buffalo though, which is also how's horse meat? I did try that I did try that is it pack. It was yeah, remember that I tried in Montreal in Montreal There's a place called Joe beef shout out to Joe beef all my favorite restaurants in the world's incredible restaurant I went there.

2:27:20It's fucking great. What does it make you feel pal about? Is it tasty? Oh, well, I didn't ask for it. Let me just say that. They served it to us. I was like, the guys who run it are awesome. We know them. I met them through Bourdain. And so they just served us whatever they wanted to serve us. And one of the things they gave us was, it was like a loin of a horse. And I was like, really? Like, this is like tenderloin, like horse tenderloin? And it was really good. but it tasted like gaming. I actually went to Joe beef with a V Torbell for Enchon Brady. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a good restaurant.

2:27:56That's cool. That's cool. Fogo the chowel this night. Just fucking wearing it out. Yeah, man. With the dark lord John Danner, her house he'd done. He's doing good. He wasn't in a rash guard. He was wearing the jersey on him. When he walked up, I was like, what the hell? And he's walking very nice. It's right in his picture. He's healed up. fucked up for a while. So did he get both of his hips replaced now? Yeah, he's always got that. He's teaching over at one of Ryan's plays three months out of his second hip surgery. He looks to me. You make me wonder, like a guy who's that smart and that driven towards you just like, what would happen if he didn't have a crippled body?

2:28:35Oh, I know. You know what I mean? Well, even what a crippled body when he was rolling. Yeah, he's a fuck people up. I know, isn't that crazy? Like blown apart knee, you know, reconstructed the point where it doesn't even like fully extend right has to get what what is he got in replace so far I mean I know both hips did he get a knee too he might have got his knee his he said after hip damages knee so bad that he thought he's gonna have to get the knee done oh he's walking great though I was so happy look good like man look good it's always good to see him yeah that's that's my thing now I get to see him when I come out right he doesn't fuck with you right my left knee no but I fucking the one thing that really is if I could just It just wants me is because I fucked up where you supposed to step down with your bad leg when you get the surgery I went up I went to put up a curtain my step down and if you see It's missing here.

2:29:29Yeah, oh I Oh, man And it's so fucking when I sometimes I'll what it'll dip like I it you know So it sucks. Well, I went to go butterfly sweep. I felt they get real tight. So I got the stem cells Shot right in that bitch. That's the only one that hurt because they said that in a way they can't reattach it I would have to done that early I didn't go early on cars down next day And then and I was dealing I didn't want to go through another fucking surgery. I just got a new knee So man the knee itself though titanium What up over the Wolverine's And I'm rolling, I'm flexible, but I just, I got, I fucked up that.

2:30:16It's a little, it's a little weak, you know, it's a little compromised. Is there anything you can do like with late weights? Like, do you like to sing the leg? I'm doing squats, I'm doing my regular squats. I gotta do more, I have to do more with the weights. But I'm thinking of like single like lunges, you know, with that leg. What did I call them? Bulgarians squats. I hold like a hundred pound kettlebell and do them one leg. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's noticeably weaker. So I gotta do something with that. But besides that the knee itself, I just wish I didn't do that so I hear about Biss being running still I can't if I run this fuck I could dip with this The running thing is weird because it's like how much time do you have on those knees?

2:30:52Yeah, I think like you kind of have to be and you got to get him fixed again But I mean can they do that can they chop the fucking thing off and put a new one in and unscrew it? Oh Hold it off my right one for as long as I can You know what I mean? You're still far? My right one. I just got shot some stem cells in there, but yeah, if I'm walking too much, I'll feel that bitch. Yeah. I mean, they're both just severely, they're not my left now. It's new, but then it's just fucking arthritis, man. Fucking is not like an old bitch, but the author right is. Oh, I author right is. But it's just, yeah, I mean, I know also to get the 55, I used to just fucking have to run in the morning for 45 minutes.

2:31:28Low intensity, but just still I was on a treadmill just fucking on Enduro rush. Fucking just running. So I might must have wore that shit down man. I'm sure that's what this being says. This is always right. Yeah, you know, he ran a lot on the streets too, you know, which I'm sure is a lot of extra pound. That's no good. I can't do that. Yeah, he's still doing it though. He's fucking been long. He's out of his run. Especially better. Especially. I think he's doing better now luckily because for a long time, his neck was fucking with him so bad. He could barely get out of bed. In his body. Yeah, I remember he had surgery in like a week later.

2:31:59He was right back on the call. Right back. I don't like gotta be careful with your neck too. Like that's where the spinal cord is. Like it only, I thought your spinal cord went all the way through your back till I had my back surgery, you know, but it doesn't. It comes down like maybe halfway. And so that's why when you have your neck impingements cause a lot of those fucking problems. That's why that Ernesto Hust, neck kick is so effective. Who's kick so many people in the neck? Just wow. He was always one of my favorite guys to watch. Mr. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, one of the most beautiful kickboxes of all time like just the combination Seaward throw pop up left hook to the body right low kick and they ruined them with Bob's app Bottom two times Always baffled me how Bob's that beat that guy well, you know what it is like this is one of the reasons why our nest I wasn't like the best candidate for kickboxing to enter into MMA because he was like smooth and super technical and very fast but not explosive, right?

2:33:04Not like, just launch them out, but Krocop was. Yeah. When Krocop fought Bob Sap, Krocop fucked Bob Sap up because Krocop was just blast on you. Like full power, full blast on you. It's like it was a different kind of thing that he would do. And that's why he was so effective in MMA. Like when he went over to MMA, like all of a sudden he's this fast, powerful striker. It's not like a boxer who's gonna move around a little bit and pick you apart for a few rounds. It's styles matter. It's styles matter. I wish he would have been in the UFC in his prime. Yeah, definitely. He got over a little late.

2:33:38He had pretty good take down defense too. He was able to cup good range. He would frame guys off and everything. Yeah, he was, I mean, and we all know about his, was it left cook, left kick, cemetery? Yeah, right kick, hospital, and cemetery. Bro, he fought he tearing and there's a shot of him throwing this low kick or this body kick. deep into heat herrings cage. Like his whole rib cage is just collapsed. And you just see crocops shin, like basically touching his liver. It's insane. It's so deep that you do, it's one of the most painful pictures you see from an MMA fight. He tearing, remember that dude kissed him before?

2:34:16Oh, no, no. He can't, he can't, he's just one shot. Yeah, I am proud. Unless it, man, you get what you do. It's the one in the upper left hand side. the second one up or that one right there. Yeah, that one. Look at that. Bro, that's so gross. Gotta be some broken. And when you know how powerful Crocop's kicks are and then you think about eating that on the ribs like that. Yeah. Oh my god, that is so gross. It's like it's folding around his leg. Yeah, I mean, that's another one that he landed on. That's Josh, that's Josh Barnett. Bro, the power that that dude had and how about the one that he landed on Vanderlei?

2:34:52When he flat -lined Vanderlei. Dude, he had some wheels on him. It's like a thing. And power. It's just the difference was like when he was throwing kicks at you, it was 100 % gas. He was not feeling you out. He was trying to like let you know, mother fucker. There's some darkness. Oh my gosh. You will see darkness and then you have a flashlight in your face. You're gonna be like, you okay? Stay put, stay put. You're gonna be okay. But then Gonzaga did that to him. Oh, remember I was there for the He rolled over his ankle. Yeah, remember that man in his ankle? Yeah, and that was for ever be known as the Croco.

2:35:28Whenever you see that happen you always think back when I happen. That wasn't London. We were there for that. Yeah, I had to, that's right I got the belt. And I remember me, you and Eddie, when I got some pasta. That's right. Yeah, that's so funny. That was great. People forgot about Gonzaga, you know? That was a big win, man. Oh, he had huge huge. He's a big fuck dude. Big natural dude. Yeah, the heavyweight division right now is so shallow and it's so shallow. It's like without you know Because they think they're all playing football and basketball, you know 100 % yeah What about Johnny? What's Johnny?

2:36:01I hate to say Walter Walker Walter Walker What am I taking leg locks at everybody? Yeah, I know like three in a row. Yeah Looks good. Yeah, I mean we need more than We need someone to like if Aspenhall is gonna have he's got Cyril gone, right? So that's an interesting fight and then who there's no one after that Just a name Yeah, it would be fine. By the way, Cyril gone didn't have a bad movie not to keep bringing up movies But I love movies, but yeah fucking KO with Cyril gone. What is it? It's a movie on Netflix. He has his own movie It's an action star. It's what I started the movie He's the star of it and you might be thinking all right.

2:36:40How's his acting? was in bed. Really? Fucking he's the the new action Jackson. Not only fucking. I do remember that. Is it in English? It's uh, it's dubbed in English. But it's a French. How do you know if he's any good? Why? Well, I watched it. What do you have to say? And it's like it's not even his voice. Well, you could see him. You say his acting is really good, but like it's not the dude's voice. That's kind of crazy. Well, I mean, it's zero. God just knocked it. You don't got to call it. It's called K. Yo, but it's not big You know there he is It was in you know It's not the best sign when a fighter starts starring in movies Yeah, you're right Yeah, everybody like it in his chances against Tom.

2:37:33That's what I'm saying you better better be training Yeah, that if there's a world that can soften you it's the world of acting It's a weird thing man. I mean act in music. Yeah kills fighters. There's also a thing like once you become a movie star like I don't know it just doesn't seem to go well like remember Tommy Morrison when you fought Ray Mercer Oh right after Rocky. Oh, that was a hard rock Beat him right now Mercer had him tangled in the Punch and Jesus blasted in a way Boom didn't Ray Mercer knock out Tim Silvia also He did one punch. Oh, it was great One punch Ray Mercer man, and he did that.

2:38:13He was like 46 remember when he uh who the hell did he fight in? It was like K1 or pride and they kicked him and he just left the ring It was Ray Mercer. Yeah, yeah, so my throat had kick He looked at him like he's speaking a foreign language and he fucking just Yeah, I'm pretty sure Can we find that I don't know I mean I Think one of the most interesting boxers that entered into MMA or entered into kickboxing was when Masato fought Both the cool Vince. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, it's still all right. Yeah, he couldn't do with them. Lake is Yeah, I could deal with the leg. Chopped the leg. Chopped the leg kicks.

2:38:59That's what's interesting when you watch a boxer who goes over there and is like, oh shit, like what is this? They never got kicking on a leg before. Yeah, that's a... You remember when Shannon Briggs fought Tom Erickson? That's right. Same thing. Yeah, Shannon was on the podcast. He was telling me about it. Oh yeah. He's like, champ every time he hit me, champ. I was like, oh, don't let him kick me again. I got a clue. How did that go? He knocked him out. Shannon knocked him out, because Shannon hit him with a jab to the body. So... Uh -oh, here's where it comes. Tim Silver. So what happened was Tim was not supposed to kick.

2:39:28They only had this authorized as a fight, but since it was like an MMA fight, they were supposed to be a boxing match. One shot. Tim Silver. So what was supposed to be a boxing match, they couldn't get authorized for it to be a boxing match because Tim Silver, you did not have a boxing record. And so you can't fight a former world champion and you've had no boxing record. But you could fight him in MMA. It's a world champion versus a world champion He knows that boxing is a sport that's in MMA. You could do that and so they made an agreement Okay, don't kick me and I'll fight you in the cage and then Tim opens up with an inside low kick No, that's why Ray Mercer.

2:40:05You see like he drops his hands That makes a lot of sense because they was the original fight right where contracted for was a boxing match right and Tim's like once I got you in here I'm gonna kick your fucking legs Yeah, that's kind of a cheap shot though. If you make an agreement about that, that's a cheap shot. Jamie, play it again, because when you see when Ray gets that inside low kick, he drops his hands. He's got this look in his face. What are you doing? What the fuck is this? See, watch, he steps out, watch this. Throws the kick. Look at this. Bro, what's that? Oh, I can't believe it.

2:40:40Timber. Out cold. Ray Mercer. good for him. I mean, Ray Mercer could fuck it on the son. Into the shot too. Yeah. That's the full mount right there. It's kind of amazing how few boxers have actually entered into MMA. Not, you know, this was like, you got tricked into this one, but it's only like James Tony. You would think more would too. Yeah. Well, I guess not if you see those oosik paychecks. Right. Yeah, but how many guys get there? Right think of you know, well, he think like Spence and Crawford main that was like a big fight I mean, they probably still made a lot a couple you know a gang of millions right?

2:41:21I mean, I'm guessing in the single digit millions though not fucking hundreds of millions I bet it's disclosed See if you find out what the purse was Jamie. We need the next art gem is in an air 25 million nice nice at least 25 mil for their fight doesn't but even still like it's such a small All popular boxes to make that as we said. So you would think it more would go, you know what, I probably got not gonna make 25 mil. I'm not good enough to make that, but I'm good enough to maybe go to MMA and make a hundred grand, two hundred grand. They gotta sit there really good. Learned how many other skill sets though.

2:41:58That's true. But if you're a guy like Crawford who started out as a wrestler. Well, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, there are some of them. I think like the Citron brothers, right? One of them was a wrestler too. I thought. Yeah, Kermit's in trance. Yeah, yeah, I was digging through a boxing form. They didn't believe the acoustic payout numbers. Oh, they didn't believe it The thing is bullshit. Yeah, I don't understand how to do stated unless you're just like money It doesn't make you know the music numbers. Yeah to pay out. Oh really? Yeah, no one believes it Oh, yeah, but that's just because they're haters.

2:42:25I mean There's no proof this 200 million dollars. It wasn't on pay -per -view. There's no Like unless someone just gave him the money Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's you let that money on fire. This is the thing, those Saudis are known to do that. Yeah, they're cloning. I mean, look what they did with that live golf tournament. Oh, no. They did it basically. Yeah. They just bought the tournament. And if they did that with basketball or with anything else, they have enough money to do that with basically all sports. I suppose that they did it with the John Jones fight. They said John Jones asked you to see for $30 million to fight Tom Aspenald and pulled out two days after they agreed.

2:42:59He didn't think it would come up with the number and they did. Saudi Arabia was involved. He was hoping they wouldn't meet the number Yeah, I just saw that this morning That's what I was saying. Yeah, interesting. I wonder where he's getting his information. That's interesting He said earlier and the thing that he priced himself out of the in Ghana who fight and He thought that that strategy would work again But apparently they met the 30 million and then John couple days later did the retirement thing and said he wasn't gonna fight What if I could do that then I'm gonna. Yeah, I'm with you Look I listen.

2:43:30It's a dangerous fight I don't mean for sure. He's especially at this point, John's career. 30 fucking million now? Yeah. Oh, take the L for 30 million. Yeah, but he doesn't want the L. Yeah, it's the thing. The real thing is John's rich right now. Right? He's already a millionaire. So what is he gonna, what's that extra, it's gonna be nice to have an extra 30, but the reality is he's rich right now. He probably don't have to work for the rest of his life. He doesn't do anything great. He still makes money doing his appearances and whatever else he's doing. And he doesn't have to take that ass kickin'.

2:43:58Not saying that he would, but if you wanted to look at it from that perspective, like if it's a tough fight, he's been through a war, the gust of some fights, all this way. They all take something out of you. And if you gotta know when you don't wanna do that anymore, and if that's where he's at right now, I hope he stays retired. But then he jumped right back in, said he wants to fight the White House. So it's like, it's so hard for those guys to let it go. When they do let it go, it's difficult to figure out who you are. Man, we gotta see where that train's gonna go off the tracks when he's not found.

2:44:30and Jane Kepa -Rolen That's like an arrowsmith song, son. I mean guys an all -time great though. I mean if not the all -time great I know who's doing that. I mean I think so. Really good lately and I It's like I'm think I'll think I'll be gonna be fighting but Dominic Ray is is Oh

2:44:52That's a real good one. Oh, that's a real good one. Oh, that's a real good one. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, Berks Faa I know. That's fast. He might be faster than Dominic Reyes. I'll tell you what man, I rewatch Dominic Reyes, John Jones, and I could see Dominic Reyes winning that decision. That's a tough call. That's a close fight. I mean, I'm not saying I sat down and scored it, but I'm like, okay, I could see the argument. I want to know. I want to know John's story. How much Coke did he do the week of the fight? What about when he told DC that? Like, that's the regular hours on cocaine. Like that's kind of the coldest thing to ever say, right?

2:45:33You know, they say there's nine years that a fighter confided his very best. It's most for most athletes. And I think they did this. Someone was explaining it to me. They think they did this based on tennis. Because tennis is all about like fast twitch and movement and the ability to explode back and forth and they're not taking any damage. And you could kind of keep your level going at the highest level for about nine years And then everything just slows down a little bit It's just too many major injuries. I mean the training for these things That's the biggest things that camps especially as you get older Yeah, you know getting there in one piece is just it's just almost impossible If you left if you want to just check all the boxes getting ready for these fucking things Yeah, you know and when guys get to be like 37 38 39 It's so hard to predict them to show up to fight.

2:46:22I know. I got to make predictions. I'm like world or 38 I'll tell you what dude. I'm not counting out canineer anymore After he beat Gregory Rodriguez, I was like god damn put it on him and Gregory tried to take him out in that first round man He went all gas Gregory's a beast to robocop he just came back and knocked out the Joker fucking her man's and yeah, and that was brutal That was about. Yeah, I think Zachary Rodriguez would be the biggest threat to Ryan or Derritor. Oh, that's interesting. Because it's just like we think about styles, like just the biggest, I think you could call that. I like it.

2:47:01Striking is terrifying. Yeah. Derritor's got that need to the body that is so interesting the way he fucking forces you to clinch. Yeah, yeah. The body is tricky. So tricky. So good in the entrance with that need of the body. Yeah, and when he did that over and over and over and over again, it's like wow like Hey for at one time with that over him. That's true Yeah, and that's where Rodriguez be fucking yeah, throw that knee and fucking Yeah, people start waiting that locked on his jaw. Yeah, but uh perfect nickname for him too I know Robocop he looks like he does That's a fight right to ridder and Robocop so that's a crazy fight.

2:47:38Yeah, that's a good one That's a real good. I'm impressed with his two jets through that to ridler Yeah, am I saying his name right? The regular, the regular. The fuck, he did everything, he was making the comics. But man, he's so big. Yeah, he's so big for 85. But so is RoboCov. Mm -hmm. Yeah. The way he handled both nickel, maybe he made the point. I thought he was small. I thought it was a horrible matchup for Bo -N -N -N -N. But it was a lot of those knees to the body. I was a lot of them. The body were nasty, man. He was so good at it. He was so good at throwing that knee to the body. He's very calm, too.

2:48:08Oh yeah. Well, he's been through it, man. I mean, we haven't seen him. But over in one F .C. Noon is that neither body so nasty. It's so nice. It's so nice. And he took one and he took a punch for it too. Doesn't matter. Oh my. That's soft. And on the ground he's a monster. Yeah. What he did to Kevin Holland was like, whoa. Okay. Chits is on point. So that's another 85. I mean, think about that division. You got fluffy. Who just like has this breakout performance last weekend. You got, you know, the whole division. Fluffy. What about that African dude? Oh, my. Oh, yeah, oh my god, he's scared of one.

2:48:43He might be the one like of all the dudes. He you know, I get one 85. No, he but he's fans. Does anybody know the African dudes name? Ateer something like that. Is it good to you? Gutierre. It's a you know, it's like a word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds more like my saying that right Jamie. He's looking for verification. He's from Cameroon as well. Yeah. Yeah. He's scary. He's real scary. There's, there's dudes in just the God just gave him an extra little extra little actual. He gave him more than the extra little because that I was just a little kid side man. We watching these dudes and he's punching his guy like in the back and the guys like going There he is a T -book of the year.

2:49:31Yeah, yeah, and he's like 64 185 doesn't have a ounce of body fat on him. I mean look at that photo of him. Just look at that photo. That's crazy You know That's like one of those the guy your girlfriend tells you not to worry about Yeah, yeah If there's a few of those guys that just they don't even look real over with Rudolph Yarra He's another one. Yeah, you see him. You're like how's that a real dude? So here he is man. And this is in his last fight. I mean, vicious power. Yeah, he was. Vicious power. Like that guy is just getting hit like, yo, yo, so my stop him. Yeah. You were talking about the heavy weights, man.

2:50:11I was upset by Bouchama, man. Oh, Bouchacha. Bouchacha. Bouchama. Bouchama. Stephen Bouchama. Stephen Bouchama. I didn't watch him for a point. I was in my barada. Yeah. Yeah, he looked even bad. Bouchacha. He looked horrible. How about they fucking got rid of the other dude? That's weird. I think they're going to resign. I think it's just a matter of like just like not having so many guys on a roster to have that burden to keep fighting them. Why that doesn't make any sense if the guy's on like a win streak. Yeah, but I think they're going to resign. I know it's just so it's just like they didn't sign in time.

2:50:49Well, you know, it's like when they have so many guys on a roster, they have to promise some certain amount of fights. So it's like, instead of that guy's ghost, they don't have to promise them. Yeah, so they don't have to promise some fights. Is this for sure? I'm just speculating. He's got a pie of them if they don't. Yeah, because they have to pay him anyway if they don't get them certain amount of fights. I don't, but I mean, you imagine you just fought your ass off your feet, but you're just cut, you're like, what? I think what they'll do is it like when they need them again, they'll just get them back.

2:51:17I was disappointed. Is it supposed to just have a shape? get him cardio wise. Well, he just I think he banked on that single leg, which was getting taken away. You seen him fight that rug, rug guy or whatever and one that was a crazy fight of a crazy war. He took a lot of torture like I was impressed because most you get to guys when they get hit like that. They're not out there for the fight. And then in this fight didn't look anything like the guy to fight it. One and I thought he was going to be better, you know, because he's training. Let me ask you this. What kind of You think they're doing over there?

2:51:46Yeah, no, man. No, I never thought that was. Look at how they're jugged. They're not. You got a point there, man. You got a big deal. I mean, this is a problem with a lot of guys we got from pride. Yeah. They come over with different physics. They look different. Oh, it is. 100%. Budez signs with octagon MMA. Faces off with heavyweight champ. All right. Well, he's staying busy. You know, the guy's good. And we need good guys in the heavyweight division. There's just not a lot of people. I mean the thing about it is it's like You gotta be exciting. I think I know he's gonna be excited. Oh, he looks horrible.

2:52:24Yeah, I think if he was look more marketable I bet you'd still have a contract. I know but isn't there like something to a guy looks like shit fucks everybody up There is something that especially Because he's more relatable look when Fedor was in his prime that was part of his charm his Chubby Roll around a place Right Oh man back and shit how many guys didn't root for fucking Roy Nelson? I'm not saying He's like it every day Knocking guys out. Yeah fucking you know people like That power that Roy have was crazy came over from Jiu -Jitsu Everybody knew he was a black belt and you did so like always competing now But dobi in the circuit and all of a sudden he's throwing

2:53:12More savage takes a shot better than any living human being that's ever lived I mean who took a shot better than Roy. He took some bombs dude. That guy took some bombs and absorbed them People loved watching him fight with that big belly

2:53:31Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I don't buy that the look like shit. It's just the performance was it wasn't exciting If you watch that fight that fight wasn't a good fight, you know, but Chacha didn't wrestle at a high level I look like if you're gonna be a jujitsu guy and everybody knows he was a multiple world champion in jujitsu and you're fighting in MMA Son you better have some take downs because nobody want gonna want to be Fucking grappling with you. Why would they do that? right he was just banking on that single like and once he started taking it here he was taking away that single like very well and then I'm like oh shit is all wrong yeah I was all excited like oh I was like I should let's see how does go shit real times as you watched a high level Jiu -Jitsu match between two black belts and it starts in a standing position and no one goes down at all for like like 10 minutes.

2:54:25Just knowing his blood. That's annoying. There's just tying up. There's no good shots. There's no one threatens to take someone down. Everyone's afraid to commit. Oh, when you start on your ass and class, then you never practice your take down. 100 % yeah. Yeah, right. You're right. It's starting on your knees. But it's also that no one wants to take a chance and open themselves up to getting caught, right? So you don't want to dive in for a double and then get caught in a key in team. That's a good caught something. every fucking time. That is a fucking. If you trust in your guard or being able to get back, now they call wrestling up, as I was doing that back in the day before it was called that.

2:55:03But like, you know, if you're good at not letting somebody pass, especially now, I'm a doby rule set. If the five minutes you know, all right, now I'm more like, if I'm good at getting out and getting up and putting the guy down, you know what I mean? I don't know, it's all strategy with that. But I hate when it's a stalemate, which is two guys just fucking pummeling, I'm fucking, but I get it from the wrestler's perspective too. like, hey, fuck, fuck, sit on your ass. Like, take me down, bitch. You want me on the ground? You got to take me to the ground. I get that too, because that's correct.

2:55:29And that's one of the things that you see that's like very humbling for a real good judicie guy. When he's there's no way he can take a guy down. And then the guy starts beating him up, standing up. And you just have, you're just rushing for trying to grab him. You can't get the fight to your expertise level, your area of expertise. It looks so bad. It's a very, very, very, very bad. Nothing the fear from you standing. So it's exactly what I'm exactly. Yeah, exactly. Could have been Don Fry and Omri Betech. That was a bad one for that. He was a mom. First, and he was tiny by the way. Omri Betech was a stud, but yeah.

2:56:02He might have done well if they gave him anybody else, but one, he was, if you watch that again, he's way smaller. And that's a small Don Fry back then. Two. Don Fry was 200, two. That was before he really got on the gas. Yeah. The end of that. Fry Don Fry is a lot different than that Don Fry. Fry Don Fry is a super hero. You know, yeah, he got gigantic even his mustache got bigger. I didn't know that guy the big Japanese guy that they were punching each other in the face Yeah, I don't know that guy became a quadruple Yeah, something happened. I saw a picture of him visiting him He's all he is yeah, I don't know.

2:56:34Yeah, don was not big. You know, look at Don. I mean he wasn't a big muscular I mean obviously super athletic is right here. Yeah, big crazy, but not the dawn from pride the giant roided up dawn fry from That's a different. This poor Amari was just trying to go down. Look at that. He just grabbed the fence. I love that. Grab the fence. Full on grab in the fence. Look, he's hanging onto the fence with shoes on. That's the other thing. He's got wrestling shoes. This is also kind of crazy. It sucks. Poor Amari. I mean, he didn't have anything. Yeah, he said, train with Amari back. Old school top team back in the day.

2:57:08It was a long fight. What do you think Amari would touch Wade in this fight? I'm going to say it. That's the round. What do you think? A Bucks 70. He has something. That's crazy. He looks he looks small. I mean the size is different weight. Okay, youngies big difference no gloves What's 30 years ago? What that was 96 Sometimes I forget I'm fucking in my 50s 51 Catch weight I'll be 57 it was catch weight. Yeah, did it say omri but touches weight? I'm looking up a different spot He looks like a little bit of weight. Yeah There was a lot of those fights back then. Oh my God tons of catch weights.

2:57:50No, just crazy Fights were right. Yeah, fighting someone way smaller than them. It's like Kering, Gagell, a Fabio Gagell. Yeah, that's one of my favorite Fights all the time. I was a big Fabio. Yeah I was like a great kid to Marillo boost the Montaill fighting Tom Erickson for 45 minutes. I Marillo had what was a jujitsu guy that had some stand up and had some wrestling. He took Lindland down. Yeah, remember that on the feet with Chuck Lidell. I thought Merrill at one half foot. Like, yeah. Yeah. No, Merrill boost the Montet is one of my favorites to watch. The thing about the Giu -Gitsu guys back then, some of those guys, Fabio Goujelle's and other one.

2:58:29Merrill is, did Giu -Gitsu games? It could transfer over from Guy, No Guy and MMA, and it all resembles the same skill set. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? But it could cross over. Mario Sparry. Yeah, yeah. He was great too. Yeah, man. A lot of those guys from that Carlson Gracie team. I was kind of real solid. I had a real good team. You know, you just who game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2:59:02Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. LaBoria was, LaBoria was awesome. He was a good dude. Well, is he been? He's in Orlando. He's got a school in Orlando. He's still got a school. He's not in the middle of school. And like a whole network. He's not in the middle of him anymore. No, no, no, I'm a maester. He's the same in the first. He rolled out of top team. Nice guy out. What a sweetheart guy that guy is. Yeah, he wasn't. When did he leave top team? He left before I did. Really? So, I mean, he in fact, like when he left that's when they really hired me to like kind of take his place, It's out in here.

2:59:37So yeah, that makes sense Well, just like 2019 coming up. Oh Joe Piper. Oh, yeah, Joe. Yeah, he's fighting a boost mega -medoff I like Joe and he's fucking Joe Piper thought that I was too hard on them in the commentary the last way Yeah, but it's just because he's potential. That's all. Yeah, I just knew that he was looking for the big shot instead of like just letting it come. And he was so good in the first round that unfortunately like he had so much success and almost took him out and he started just looking to take him out. And if you load up with Calvin, he's still boxing. I think it freaked him out a little bit.

3:00:18The Calvin was still there. You know like like he's like, yo I didn't hit this dude. Whatever he's doing still here. What the hell is going on? Nobody has got a chin like that. Yeah. He's a 70. He's a 70. Yeah. He shouldn't be. He's always had such problems making it. Yeah, but you know what man? It's just like if that guy was at the UFC PI and they gave him all his meals and he had someone babysit him and make sure you don't just don't fuck off. Don't eat anything other than this. And it's like too many guys just want to feel comfortable. Yeah, it's like okay, but you're not going to feel comfortable losing.

3:00:50Right. So you're fighting a giant. And that this guy is coming down from an extreme weight. 185. First 210. And that's fine. So I'm ready to attach this one to E5. Yeah, okay. Damn. There's also a late replacement. I gotta go back again, I'm sorry. Well let's wrap it up. Whoa man, guys my ass is stopping us! No man, we could do this for three hours. We could do it for three hours. Okay guys, I feel we guys are gonna fucking curse me after this, I'm sorry. No, no, no, we understand. Me and my ass. You got a legitimate issue. I have a lot of issues. There's nothing more. Um, ground control Baltimore Maryland.

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