JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

27:32You murdered her! You killed her children! Some shit like that He kept repeating it Strutting around with the mountains on his back What a crazy show Such a good show One of the greatest shows of all time I'm telling you, text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms I'm going to do it as soon as we're done with this We're on season 7 now Six episodes Each episode is like 30 minutes The House of Dragons never really dragged me in It didn't I loved it. It was interesting. Yeah. You know, it was like, I liked it. But it wasn't the same thing. Definitely not. I think this, the new one is, in my opinion, better, I thought.

28:09Oh, the night. Yeah, the night of the seven kingdoms. There's parts in it that just get you going like, fuck yeah! Yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. I'm looking forward to, I hope they lengthen it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Six half hour episodes. But I love the relationship between the kid and the... Yeah. That was the whole show, right? One thing I did love about House of Dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon Oh, that was cool And they brought all those people down there and test them Oh, yeah Snatched You have to have some Targaryen blood And a lot of the Targaryens fucked a lot of regular people So they were searching for Targaryen blood Just taking people out of the pub And just pushing them in front of the dragon That was crazy She first asked one of the King's God Like, you know, we tracked you back to whatever And he's like, oh, it's a great honor No, I want to do it Yeah, buddy Careful what you wish for, motherfucker.

28:58That scene was nuts. That scene was nuts. Dude, the red wedding. Fucking that was the craziest shit ever. You couldn't believe it was happening. No. Why was it happening? Like, this can't be happening. Because we're taking everybody. This can't be happening. This can't be happening. Did you hate the ending as much as everybody else? I did not enjoy it. It felt to me like they had to tie it up and like, da-da-da, nice little bow. I would have been almost better if it was like No Country for Old Men style ending. I think all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards. You don't have to tie it in.

29:29I'm not 12. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once it got past the books, it took a hit. Well, that guy's a genius. I mean, the world that guy created and the complexity of all the characters, like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister. Oh, my God. Tyrion ran shit. Yeah, man. I mean, that guy was so fucking good, man. They're already doing the Swan Sword, which is the second book of Game of Thrones of the Dunkin' Egg Tales. Oh, nice. Yeah. Awesome. That's his writing, too? That's his, yeah. Also, they're doing another one. He did three books. It was A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which they just did. They're going to do A Sworn Sword, and then it's The Mystery Night.

30:12I don't know anything, but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit. Don't ask me about anything else. Game of Thrones and Star Wars. Listen, man, you're my go-to. The world's so fucked up, you're way better off with that stuff in your head. That's why I do it, man. It's such an escape, man, just to sit home and watch TV. That's all I do, man. Sit home and watch TV. Speaking of Star Wars, I got a text out of nowhere from George St. Pierre. He loves it as much as me. It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series. Oh, no. I swear to God. And then he gave me back a report. He told me. He's like, oh, it's so far so good.

30:44I told you. My brother's like, I know Matt's in the Star Wars. Tell him watch the new Darth Maul. It's good. Jamie said. It's fun. I love George. He's the best. I have the hardest time convincing people who he is. It's hilarious. What do you mean? When he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA, they're like, what does your friend do? I go, that is one of the greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth. 100%. You're like, no, for real? I go, yeah, 100 % in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time. And he's like, hello, nice to meet you. He just seems so sweet and friendly.

31:19Man, that's the problem with MMA is that you have to convince people about how bad somebody was. And it wasn't that long ago. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time. No, it wasn't that long ago. And now, but the fans are so new that they don't get it. They don't go back and watch it. They had a watch like go back and watch the John Fitch fight. Oh, man Prime GSP he was he was terrifying Incredible gas tank great flow between grappling and striking but you're very creative He put that shit together to best It's why I had such success taking everybody down like his yeah, man He would set it up his level change and he always he ran through every takedown.

31:57It was never yeah Yeah, yeah, he was gonna run you across the cage George was phenomenal And then I think Farras Ahabi was a big part of that too. Farras Ahabi's a bad motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, he's smart. You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns? Sometimes, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's incredible. He's very, very astute. He's so knowledgeable of the game, of every aspect of it. His brother is doing well. Yeah, his brother's fighting at the White House. He's fighting Sean O'Malley, and I think people are sleeping on him. Well, listen, he keeps winning. Yeah. He keeps fucking winning. that the one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was aldo remember aldo yeah i don't know yeah for sure i'm not sure he won that fight because i think they're not being generous enough with the 10 8s and the 10 7s they don't do it enough not enough there's when a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious you know like that that means a lot i hate the fact that they don't use it enough all because Like Dana was like oh, I don't like it and now the judges are just like now we can't do it because listen The scoring system sucks because we stole it from boxing.

33:03It's not yes It doesn't have enough points for sure. It should be like you should get like a certain amount of points for different things But it would be really hard to calculate Because there'd be have to be subjective like if Pereira hits you it's way harder than if someone's like, you know Paul Craig right yeah, no disrespect But you know the consequences are very different so if he hits you with the left hook It's different that a prayer to the left hook so that's subjective But in terms of like what happens in the fight you should be counting in submission attempts You should be counting and take down times like who was more aggressive who is more defensive who who's who?

33:41Implemented their strategy should have like a hundred points to work with absolutely as he got ten points Why are we only using two of them? It's nine and a ten why I don't get it It doesn't make any sense because there's 10-9 rounds that are like, ah, could be anybody. And there's 10-9 rounds where he dominated. That's nuts. Well, see, UFC BJJ uses that. And it works better for that because they're very liberal with the 10-8s and 10-7s. They use it a lot. They're like, if it's close, it's a 10-9. If it's one-sided, it's automatically a 10-8. So they use it a lot. That does make more sense. But even in BJJ, I would say you'd need more points.

34:17you need like it's like the difference between a 70 30 round where a guy's dominating you 70 percent of the time and a 51 49 round is fucking huge yeah it's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all yeah so like you could win a 10 9 round the first round where it's like you're barely ahead like maybe i'll give it to you and then the second round that dude fucks you up and he gets a 10 9 round because you didn't go down yeah but he's head kicking you and you're blocking it. You're getting teeped. Your legs are getting kicked all the time. It's still a 10-9 round? That's nuts. Just because you didn't go unconscious?

34:53Just because you didn't get knocked down? I think it's... My ADD's kicking in, but we're talking about the close calls. Close scoring. I thought Aljo... I thought he should have got that nod against fucking... I thought so, too. I didn't think there was a... One much question to me. One reversal at the end, like a minute 30 left, and Aljo's winning that whole first round. Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert. He could be undefeated at 145. He's a nightmare because if your whole thing is Grappling with people and you got a grapple with Aljo you got problems. Yeah, that dude gets your back He's got he's got him and I'm 10 10 8 round like he was on his back Dominated him in that second round and they don't know how is that not a 10 8 round?

35:34He's fighting Yusef So long soon. Yeah, yeah, you said allow and that's on the 25th of April But I think if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this. Did Aljo over Jan in the second fight, was that like the best anybody's ever done with Jan? Oh, yeah. Straightened out. Right? For sure. His control is just so good when it hits the floor. That's the difference between him and Marab. Marab can keep getting you down and up, down and up. Right. Aljo hits the floor. Yeah, you're not getting away. He just needs back exposure. He's one of those. Some guys, they can't jump up on the back. It's not good for them.

36:06They're going to get tired. Dude, all day long. He'll just go up there, lock that shit on. If he doesn't get you, that's his round. The Sanhagen fight was a masterpiece. His grappling is so, so good. He doesn't get proper credit. No, this is back take some of the best in the sport, period. Man, they're not a big fan of his. They don't push. How? He's such a nice guy. I know, he does everything right. He's such a nice guy. I think it's the one fight with Jan. You know the Jan fight with the neck. I think that was turned everybody against him. Those people are wrong. His neck was fucked up. He had to get his disc replaced.

36:43I mean, he should have validated the entire thing by whooping his ass in the second fight. But they already decided they hate him. They're stuck on it. They already decided they hate him. He had to get his fucking disc replaced. It was real. It was a real fucking injury. He could be a two-time double division champ. I mean, in my mind, he's undefeated at 145. Look what he did to Calvin Cater. Calvin Cater's a beast. Very impressive. If you didn't know Cal Vecator, if that's just the first fight seeing him, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong here, which he obviously does. He's a beast. But Aljo is masterful.

37:16You know what it is? He's good at not getting hit. So it's like he's not giving you that back and forth. And Longo says, you've seen 20 % of what he could do in standing up. Like I'd ask him something. He's like, he could put his foot wherever he wants it, like about a kick or something. He's just really, really talented, man. I hope he gets his shot if he takes out a you know you self. I hope he They give him a shot again, because I think he could be a two-time champ. He will listen He's still a bad motherfucker. Like he's a nightmare for everybody Especially if he gets a hold of you. Yeah, I mean People look at the one fight losses they look at the Shawn O'Malley fight like Shawn caught him perfect That's just how you know he his head wasn't really in that because he didn't even want to be there Nope.

38:01Why didn't he want to be there? They made him fight. They made him fight. They made him fight that fight. He didn't want to fight. Yeah. They had like a whole documentary on it where it was like they kind of twisted his arm. They'd be like, you got to do this. And they were. Was he injured? I think he was injured. Maybe it was a quick turnaround. It was too quick a turnaround. He's the champ. He didn't feel he should be forced into, you know. But he thought the number, he thought the pay-per-view numbers was going to make up for it. He thought he was going to get all this money from it because he was like, all right, I'll do it.

38:31Sean O'Malley's gonna bring in the numbers. Then he said when it was over he saw the numbers. He was like if I knew the numbers was gonna be like this I don't think I'd have did it. Really? Yeah. So it didn't do well? It didn't do as well as he thought he was gonna do based on Sean O'Malley's presence. Listen man it takes a lot to get people to pay for something today. There's too much of any ways to seal it. This Paramount thing is genius in that regard. Is that all you have to do is have that app which a lot of people have already anyway. That's genius. But to make people pay every time to watch fights, there's so much to watch today.

39:08Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me. It was like, it's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight. You can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you to fight. So it's a big difference. It's a giant difference. Yeah, it's a giant difference. I like that it's on Paramount. It's a fan, though. Yeah, it saves you a ton of money. I used to pay for every one of them This Netflix thing is nice too It's good to see that there's like Someone who's willing to throw a lot of money At MMA in another large arena You know like Netflix What are your thoughts guys Gina versus Ronda I think round one submission Ronda Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her Which I doubt, I hope not I don't know what Gina's been doing You know I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all.

40:01She was recently a little heavy. I can say that. She looks great now. Does she look great now? Look, she got in great shape. Is she still like 43 years old? But the question is like, what was she doing? Was she still training some? That would be my real question. Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I gotta go. I mean, but with the weight loss, with the weight gain that she had, There was no way she was training or doing anything. That's what I'm saying. Like, she's back in shape, and she obviously is boxing her ass to do that. But how long, like you're saying, was she down?

40:37And she has to develop a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever. No, Ronda's... Her only hope is to keep it on the feet. Ronda could jump guard on her, and I still think she'd be it. She would pull guard and sweep her. Or arm lock her. Her arm locks are amazing. Her arm locks are amazing. They're preposterous. You know? I think there's too many. Dude or chick, her arm bars were sick. Remember that Kat Zingano fight? Kat charged at her. Kat threw her. That was the craziest thing ever. Got her an arm bar, like instantaneously. Yeah, what a stupid strategy that was. Yeah, she blanked out on that one.

41:09So crazy. That was such a sick transition. But I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood. It was kind of recent. It did not look good. How recent was it? I don't know. I don't know, but it didn't look good. I was just like, ugh. It's hard to tell where they're at. I hope this is older. She's a big girl. Maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something. But also, what were they doing? Were they just working on slow motion shit? Were they just trying to get a movement? Or were they getting in a hard mitt workout? I mean, either way, just mechanically, it didn't look great. Mechanically.

41:42But it could have been, it's like one of them things where this could be her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up. But who knows? I mean, who knows? Maybe she's, who knows? You just never know. You hope so. Yeah, I hope it's better than that. Round one submission. I mean, probably right. I mean, come on. I bet if you had Polymarket, you could make some money on that. There's going to be a lot of bets on that. It's exciting, though, that Netflix is doing it. That's what I like. I like that there's another place people can go. But how sustainable is this, though? That's my biggest question.

42:19Whoever's putting the money up for this is going to lose their ass, I think. You think they're going to make that money back? Right, but here's the thing. It's Netflix, right? So Netflix has an insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in. Like every month people are paying whatever they're paying. It's as high as like, what,$19 for ad-free? What is it? How much does a Netflix account now? I think it just went up, right? Yeah, they kind of went up. So think of all that money. It's just coming in every month. They just got to give people exciting things to want to watch, and they'll keep making more money.

42:49Right. Because more people use Netflix. Like it would seem like they're going to lose their ass, but they're not. because they have a completely different business model. Obviously, I'm not a businessman. $8.99 to$26.99 per month. In fact, I'm a terrible businessman. But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit so they keep tuning into Netflix. So in that sense, they're not going to lose any money because there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they can watch that fight. Right. So who's on the card now? It's like Felipe Linz versus Ngannou.

43:21Ngannou. Mike Perry vs Nate Diaz. Oh, and Robles Despain. Despain, yeah. And Junior Los Santos. That one is like... Who's it? Robles Despain. That tall karate combat dude. He's a Taekwondo black belt from Cuba. Wait, versus Junior? How old's Junior? He's 50 now. Is he 50? He's close. But he's in good shape. I actually did a... We spoke at a high school a couple of months ago. I'm glad to hear that. I mean, at least these guys get an outlet to make some extra money. Yeah, man. Who doesn't want to see Diaz versus Perry? Adriano Morais is a—you know, that's a— Mo 'Gaiv's probably going to school him.

44:01But, I mean, they're giving guys some opportunities. So you've got to like this. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. It'll be a big show. A lot of people will tune in. Diaz and Perry's going to be fucking bananas. That'll be really fun to watch. Yeah, that's—I mean, that'll be worth the price of it. Imagine if that was 10 years ago, that fight. It would be really amazing. It's like if the G-L-L-A went to fucking, it came true. The G-F-L? Remember that Grand Ball League? No, not everybody. They just stole all their talent. Bro, Diaz versus Perry, guaranteed dogfight. Just a guaranteed dogfight. That will not be a boring fight.

44:39Who do you think wins that? I think the jiu-jitsu is going to be too much. I kind of think that, too. I kind of think Nate might just drag them deeper, right? We're going to see. You know, we're going to see. Oh, it's five rounds? Five rounds. That's crazy. Five rounds is crazy. I wonder why they agreed on that. Interesting. Why do you think they agreed on that? I didn't realize that. Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds? It's three. When they first announced this, it said five by five for everything, but it's changed a bit. So it says five by five right there. Yeah, just for those two, though.

45:08This one does not. Does it say that anymore? No. And it also says these are the main event. I mean, I can't imagine if Gina was asking for five rounds. Well, actually, it does. There it does. It says it real hard to see it. Yeah, five by five. Right. Professional. Yeah. Okay Well Lorenz Larkin back in the day. I remember he fought Neil Magny was hitting him with the oblique kicks to the chest And I was like I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way You ever see that fight? No, I don't remember that fight. He tuned Neil Magny up Lorenz Larkin was a bad motherfucker. I do remember that like he had his he had a good run He was so his striking was elite.

45:43Yeah, and he would he when he fought Neil Magny He, you know, Neil Magny's a tough fucking dude. Durable guy. Durable, incredible discipline and endurance. Like, that dude's never out of shape. And he was just getting too, look at this. Oof. I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs. That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it. But earlier, before that, he caught him on the ribcage with it. His spotter! Look at that. Bro, that's crazy. He gave him a spotter kick. That's the second look at it. But right here you're seeing him he's blasting him with this Kick that nobody throws like that.

46:18That's a crazy position to put your hips in That is crazy. Well, he's he was sharp. How did this one end? He stopped him. Oh, did he yeah? Shit. Yeah, Lorenz was all over a man. It was a problem like one of the prime performances that I've seen of him fight He had a good little run. He had a great a great run but in during that run and this was like, he came from Bellator, right? Yeah. And when he came over from Bellator, it was like he was still red hot. Yeah. Red hot. Yeah. Two guys that were in Bellator, which is Pitbull and Aaron Pico. They're getting ready to fight in this weekend. Yeah, man.

46:57How much time do you think a guy like Pico is supposed to take off after Lerone? We were just talking about that. Because I love his offense, man. He's a little raging bull. Animal. And strong, powerful. He just got caught. And he got caught perfect and he was just perfect. That's spinning. I think he got stopped more than He got stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that. Yeah, he's first fight ever You don't want to go through your career with the kid from Kill Cliff Yeah, Adam Burks. Yeah, he got him with a fly with a flying knee. Yeah, yeah You don't want too many of those that's right, but they'll but those put him out man Like you just see him just go yeah that Macy Barber one the other day Whoa.

47:37That was just... One of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history. Oh, no doubt. I wanted to reach out to Macy because I felt so bad. I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, what the fuck do you think? He's just over like... He's poking him with a fucking face. So crazy. Yeah. He's like, I'm like, get some smell. I'm like, somebody, the cameraman, please get off this. Or somebody talk to the doctor because I don't know what the fuck. He was just over like, man, this is fucked up. I don't think he knew exactly what was going on. He probably has no experience in combat sports, right? He didn't realize that she got knocked out and while she was out cold She got strangled she transitioned so fast like she's out there Already and then she gets strangled like that's never happened before What's crazy is she was kind of still reacting and then when they put her on her back She just it was well.

48:27No she went limp as she was trying to sit up She went limp you see right there like she was trying to get up and then as the guy has his arm around her She goes limp. Dude. See, there's like, there's sea level Kane, and then there's Southpaw Alexa. When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous. Then there's confused doctor. Look at him. Right. I've never seen this before. Hey. Crazy. Look at him. Right. He's like, are you doing right? Crazy. Well, she's kind of coming to there, I think. She's blinking. That was just. Holy shit. And the speed that she took her back. Yeah. Left hand, boom, back, choke.

49:05Amazing. One shot while she was out still. Cracked her again. Got her back and choked her. All like a lightning bolt. That was super impressive. But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her. I feel like it's been five minutes with her sitting there. Left hand, boom, took her back. It took her longer, but look at this. Bam. So she's in trouble. Bam, right there. Out cold and then strangled. I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before no because I mean she's seen watch this punchy That's a cold right and then boom Sick that's crazy Crazy Wow, she's tough man All backwards in front of you after the knockout Yeah, well here.

49:54So here's the thing she gets up and when she gets up I think she faints like I think she tries to get up And then he, Mike puts his arm around her and she's out. I think she fainted. That's just scary. That's scary. And she also had had some problems before with seizures. Yeah. She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield. She had a seizure in the locker room, right? So they still allow her to fight even though she's had seizures? That's pretty crazy. It depends on what's causing the seizures, right? If they know it's a medication that she was on, they get her off the medication. I don't know what causes seizures.

50:30Well, that's just not going to help the seizures. But it certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting. Yeah. It would have to fuck with your motivation if you're already having seizures. I wouldn't want to do it. And now after that, I wouldn't want to do it. Anytime you fight, that's a possibility. Yeah. I mean, look at a guy who never once looked, took anything remotely like that, like Kamaru Usman. And even in a fight where he's just doing so great. and then that's the closest thing I've seen to that was when he got stopped with that head kick. And you know, that's a possibility any time you make that walk.

51:07That's why you got that fucking little feeling in your... You know, before you walk out there. The Kamara one was nuts too because John Anik was just saying because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation and John Anik said something along the lines of but that is not the cloth from which he was cut. I know, and then as soon as... I mean, that was like the most perfect timing ever. Ever. Like a movie. If you saw that in a movie, you're like, shut up. Because I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke. And then DC was saying it. And then John intervened with, he's not cut from that cloth.

51:42And boom. Head kick. It was nuts. What is that new? Nuts. Russell Crowe's doing a new MMA movie. Is that supposed to be the UFC? No, I think 1FC. Yeah, 1FC. I think they did it with 1FC. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder that that's going to be good. Yeah, but I mean, the fighter is like my age. I'm like, yo, what's going on here? Coming back. Like Randy Couture won the title in his 40s. Yeah, man. One has some wild striking fights, man. Some of the absolute best stand-up fights in the world are happening on One. I watch it all the time. I never know when that shit's on. Yeah, when is that on? Where do you watch it at?

52:18There's this fucking cat out of Dagestan. Do you guys know who I'm talking about? Asadullah Imam Gazeliev? Bro. Bro, this dude is, I think he's 135 pounds. I think that's what he fights at. And he's like six foot one. And just a laser beam striker. Just fucks people up. Like literally might be the best striker in the world. Is it just kickboxing? Yeah, and he's getting in there with Muay Thai. He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KOing them. Like three-time world Lumpini Muay Thai champions. Damn. Lumpini Stadium guys. This guy is a fucking straight killer dude and he's from Dagestan and he can wrestle damn You got it.

52:59Let's see if you can find like a highlight reel of his chaos Because this is just like get on YouTube The body shot was this I've watched this cat every time he fights. I just can't he's so fucking accurate And he's so slick. How old is he? He's 22. Oh, yeah, man I'm telling you this 22 year old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on earth right now This dude is so impressive. And I'm telling you, he's doing this to dudes who are world champions. Oh, shit. He's taking out world champion kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai fighters. They're putting him in there with these fucking assassins, and he's making them all go night-night.

53:39Oh, damn. Oh. Bro, you got to see it in real speed. Like, you see his real movements. It's so impressive. Is he with Habib and Emino? I don't know where he's training out of, but he's from Dagestan. Bro, he looks like the beat. Yes. Yeah, like a like a little bit more robust the beat But it's like it's different like the beat had more of a you know He had an incredible style, but it was almost like more taekwondo ish This guy's pure Muay Thai, but he just fucks people up man accurate, too Oh, he's been spinning heel kicks everything needs the body, but it's it's the combinations the way he's throwing them He just finds these openings on people with this precision that you're like, motherfucker, man.

54:21It keeps the pressure on. He keeps the pressure on, too. He's just flatlining folks. One after another, flatlining people. Oh, man. Bro, he's very fucking impressive. And again, very impressive against world championship caliber Muay Thai fighters. These are not scrubs that he's fighting. Damn. And one's putting these fights on all the time. And I was trying to tell Dana this. I was like if you guys had like UFC striking do you know fucking exciting that would be if just Muay Thai with MMA gloves on well they should do that they do a hundred BJJ now they're gonna do it 100 they're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground boo these guys never go to the ground right it's just all and kickboxing is so much more brutal than eating than boxing way more brutal yeah it just didn't get a fair shake in America.

55:10I know. It's not that it's not exciting. It's the most exciting aspect of the UFC, other than a great submission like Alexa Grasso after a knockout. That's like the most exciting. This episode is brought to you by Visible. Let's be honest. Wireless can feel like a world of traps, expensive bills, tacked on fees, and promises that just don't hold up. You start to feel stuck. Don't fall for the trap. Escape to Visible, the ultimate wireless hack. Get unlimited data and hotspot powered by Verizon. One line for just$25 a month, taxes and fees included. Get great coverage and a reliable connection with Visible.

55:51Plus, for a limited time, new members can get the Visible plan for just$20 a month for one year using code FRESHSTART. Refresh your wireless with Visible. Switch today at Visible.com. Terms apply. Limited time offers subject to change. See Visible.com for plan, features, and network management details. I could, people bitch about Comzat. I could watch him do that to Drake us all day long. I don't give a shit. That's masterful. Masterful. Get him off you. People are like, oh, that's a shame and he doesn't take chances. Dude, get, he's not like he's not trying to beat the shit out of him. He's getting him tied up and he's beating him up and he's just, he's working them over.

56:34I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the crucifix? What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, that's Driecus' problem. Driecus needs to get him. Yeah, 100%. And I don't believe in stand-ups at all, period. I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls. If someone does a foul and then you have to stand up, take a point away from them, maybe then you stand them up. Yeah. You shouldn't reward a guy for having, like, a shit defense. If the dude on the bottom is the one that fouled, put him back where they were. Don't reward him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

57:04But other than that, why are you letting people stand up? Why? Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground. Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds to catch his breath. Yeah. You know, like, what the fuck do you want? Yeah. Like, figure out how to get up. Yeah. Bottom people just have to be better. Also, you know how to fix that? Here's how you fix that. Knees to the head to a downed opponent. Absolutely. Absolutely. And then it's like, it's all out of the way. Wrestlers? Then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous. Hey, man, Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix with that shit. Didn't you see the smashing machine?

57:32Yeah, bro. Did you like the smashing machine? I did. It was good. I did. I enjoyed it, too. I thought The Rock was amazing. I thought his acting, you didn't think it was The Rock. I haven't seen it yet. You thought it was Mark Kerr. Really? He even got a forehead thing. Yeah. He got rubber put on his forehead or whatever the fuck he used to. To give him a little, make him more Neanderthal. A little Cro-Magnon. Give him a little Frankenstein forehead. It was almost scene by scene. It was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary. It was really good. The documentary, it's like the same shots, the same story.

58:06So if you've seen the documentary, which was great. Yeah, same. Kurt was a great guest. I had him in the podcast. He was fun. Yeah. He was a really cool guest. No kidding. Yeah, he was really fun. And just real intelligent, like easy to talk to. Like where does he live now? I forget. Is it Arizona? Bro, I saw him in early UFCs when I was a backstage interviewer. He submitted Dan Bobish with his chin to his eye. I remember that. I remember that too. That was crazy. I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene, with the old Ranger Stott needed a face knockout. Yeah, that guy. I remember Rip Rules while we were about to find out.

58:46Morty Heienstein or something like that. The karate guy. Oh, yeah. Morty Heienstein. I don't know, man. My favorite Mark Kerr fight was against Fabio Gergele down in Brazil. That was crazy. That's where he got his name. Yeah, man. That's my shit. I was a big Fabio fan. And like, I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy after that beating, he took it. Never, never fucking thought about quitting. Crazy. Yeah. Headbots and everything. Who said yes to that? Yeah, right. Let me pull you guys aside. He'll explain physics. And now I need to introduce you to steroids. That was the combined physics and steroids.

59:23And like, no, you're not fighting Mark Herman. If you look at the time, that's when Jiu Jitsu still had that mystique about it. It's true. You know, back when they weren't losing. But that kind of killed, but that's when the beginning of the end of the guard started for MMA. It was like that. Because those big wrestlers were just like, oh, you mean all I got to do is block his hips and he can't do shit? And I can headbutt you? Right. After that fight. Do you remember when Mario Sperry fought Igor Zinovich? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Mario Sperry was one of the first Jiu Jitsu black belts to lose in MMA.

59:54That's right. Yes. Because we all thought Jiu-Jitsu Blackwells were invincible. And Mario Sperry was elite. He was a really good Blackwell. And so he fought Zinoviev, and Zinoviev stopped him. I remember that. And Mario was doing everything right, mounting him correctly. But then he would just do one of those weird, like, super big bridges. And then because he had endurance and he was able to just withstand his attack, he ended up cutting him or something towards the end. Yeah, it was a big cut. They stopped it from a cut, right? Speaking of old-school guys guess who was at the UFC last week Murillo Bustamanch.

1:00:27Oh Twice yes Yeah, he also fought 45 bit before Tom Eric's Tom Eric for 45 remember that Chuck Liddell too honestly in that fight he might have yeah Some of the eyes he was a bad motherfucker. It was really good boxing and insane jiu-jitsu but really good boxing. One of the first guys from that Carlson Gracie team along with Victor. Good wrestler, too. He had good takedowns for a jiu-jitsu guy, too. But that's my point. He's at the UFC just cornering Jose Delano, and no one knows who he is. And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy. He's one of my favorite fighters of all time, but no one knows who he is.

1:01:10That's crazy. He's a legend. But, you know, there's so many people now. It's like time just goes on. What a bunch of killers Carlson had back in the day, man. Dude, I was at his school in 96 when all that was going down. Right before Vitor got into the UFC. Sperry, Laborio, Carlo Barreto. Yeah, Carlo was training there. Sergio Cohen. He had a bunch of beasts, man. And we'd watch them all train together. Mario Sperry was telling us a story about when he was just starting out in jiu-jitsu. He made his girlfriend sit there and he just put her in triangle after triangle after trying

1:01:52Watching TV just practicing triangles on his girlfriend We were lucky that we were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did You know and like even back at henzo's and you had henzo Yeah, I'm coming through at half coming through you had Matt you had Ricardo you had Sean Alvarez like we just had a ton of killers you know and back then it was I always joke about the tap out shit but if you saw somebody in an airport in the 90s with a tap out shirt on you were like where you train then it went to like JC fucking pennies which is cool because it was except forever 21 but it was pretty wild I had some tap out shirts everybody did those guys were fun yeah definitely It was a weird time that time of MMA if you go back to like like even when like you and I first met those like When yet what year was that 2001 we met crazy.

1:02:51That's crazy You weren't a commentator yet, but I fought Kelly Delonte and you gave me a nice shout I remember we need more of that jungle jiu-jitsu like Matt's when you tour that by and I'm like oh Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that was that was 2001 cuz I mailed you a shirt thank you and then you called the academy and I'm like oh what's up that was funny man it was crazy but Jiu Jitsu was so physical then like it was a physical thing now it's so intellectual and like these nerds think they own it autistic kids got old Jiu Jitsu and I didn't think they own it they start talking about technique it's like they're talking chest moves if you don't know the name you don't know that it's like dude I know that when you're going for the they call it the K-Guard I'm like shit man I've been doing that since the 90s at first I'm like oh what's the thing you don't know the K-Guard?

1:03:47then they show it and I go well yeah it's never called it the fucking K-Guard but it's funny you bring up Murillo Bustamante we talked about Fabio Gagel back then and I know Jiu Jitsu evolved but if you take those guys you put them in the Abu Dhabi submission tournament you put them in the BJJ IBJJF and you put them in an MMA fight Their jiu-jitsu is the same. It carries over to all. And they may not win, but they're competitive. And they can have a win-win game. They can have it across the board. Yeah. Somebody who's just used to scissoring or just used to their legs. You know what I mean? That can transfer over.

1:04:26Here's what fucks my head up. If you, gun to my head, said to me, who do you think has the best jiu-jitsu in MMA right now? my head would go, Charles Oliveira. I was getting ready. Charles Oliveira. But Islam Makachev finished him on the ground. So how can I say that? Right. So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about elite expressions of jujitsu on the ground, like one of the most dangerous guys off his back, Oliveira. Oliveira is so dangerous everywhere. If he gets on top of you, you're fucked. I mean, it was just that Max Holloway's defense is so tight and he's so tough that he didn't get finished.

1:05:05Right. For sure. A lot of dudes would have been at him in that first round. How crazy it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down. I mean, Max, nobody took Max down like that. He manhandled him. It was bananas. But I think Max is a guy that is like, he can fight at 45. I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45. But at 45 in his prime, it was a perfect weight class for him. When Olivera was fighting at 45, he was killing himself. Like he fought like he just was fatigued easier. but then when he went up to 55 then he became Charles Oliveira it was really all at 55 where he made his mark he tried that shit though with Ilya he did try to take him down he tried to he's on another level he's on another level super well rounded and people haven't really even seen that yet he's on a level where I can't wait for his next fights when he's fighting I'm like what is he going to do now I think he's getting better I think it's not just I think the dude is like their approach to it.

1:06:06There's a documentary on YouTube But what they're like talking about how they break down all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff They train in like these dudes are on another level I mean when you think about like if a fight between like Ilia and Islam were to happen I think about like the magnitude of that of like not only just like star power But just in terms of skill I'm like breaking that down in terms of skill Oh, my God. Like, two of the best-skilled fighters of all time. Of all time. Yeah. That would be an insane fight. And I just really would like it if it happened to be at 55.

1:06:38Like, Ilya at 170 is a little unrealistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. If 55 would be better. Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck 96. Yeah, for sure. Fucking jacked. I think Armin should be spoken about, too. 100%. Yeah. And look how he fought. 100%. He had a pretty good fight with Islam back when he, how many years ago? He was like 21. I mean, he was, I mean, scrambles. Although I do have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think, I think Oliveira would have beat him in that fight. Because Oliveira threatened him with submissions. That is true. A couple times. That's true.

1:07:13A couple times. Like, that to me is more valuable than holding a guy down. Did Armand threaten he had an arm choke with him? No. He was kind of on the run. But he was kind of on the run more often than we remember. Armin was? Yeah. In terms of like inside the guard of Oliveira. Like he was kind of, you know, he was on the run. It's dangerous in there, man. It's not like everybody else's. Like there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig. Bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking triangle. Like that guy's beating world champions. Yeah. Think about it. He beat Jamal. Broke his arm. Jamal, he beat.

1:07:48Uncle Lye. Uncle Lye. Stopped him with like one second to go in the third round with a triangle. He might have one of the best. What was that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle? Dustin? No, English guy. Yeah. I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh, my God. It's going to drive me nuts. The little skinny English guy. Yes. He was all triangles. He was like 11 triangles in a row. He had this one move. But if he can get you to the ground and latch his legs around you, you're a fucksville. Paul Sass. Yeah, Paul Sass. Paul Sass. I was going to Paul Allen. Shout out to Paul Sass.

1:08:21Yeah, he was a beast. He'd get you in that triangle. You're fucked. And Fabricio Verdum's another one, right? Yeah. I mean, he triangled Fedor when Fedor was Fedor. I always tell people, if you want to look at one of all-time greats in heavyweight, don't look at all losses and shit. Stop right here in the prime. Who has tapped out more legends than Fabricio Verdum? Minotauro? Fedor? I mean, that is crazy. Just those two, Cain Velasquez? Yeah, that's true. He's tapped out all the legends. That's true. And they weren't past the prime either. Fedor was securely in his prime. 100%. I remember watching that live thinking, oh, my God.

1:09:02Oh, my God. He ran right into it. He ran right into that. He literally did jump into it. Brilliant. His jiu-jitsu was, like, scary off his back. Yeah, Fedor had no respect for the guard. Just, you know, was trying to take his head off and just fed it to him. Yeah, man. You can't do that with a guy. Not a guy like that. That's a different level. And plus, he hit Colby in the head with a boomerang. Remember that? There's nothing wrong with that. Give me some points for that as well. That was my favorite video of all time. Because he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag. And Colby was reaching out for the bag.

1:09:32Yeah. You got to give him some points for that. Out of all the people that I thought I was definitely going to see on the White House lawn, it was going to be a Colby Covington fight. I was like, how did you not have a Colby Covington fight at the White House? Man, I don't know. He's like super supportive of Trump, wears Trump hats everywhere. Right. And he's not a fighter. They didn't get him hooked up? They didn't hook him up? I don't know. How did that not happen? I think Bo Nickel wanted to fight him. Yeah, but that's a different weight class. Bo Nickel's a big dude. He's at 85. He's an 85-er.

1:10:01Yeah. That's a, you know, Kobe's not a big 70. Is he set to fight anybody? Is he a great size for 70? Yeah. No. No. I know why. Just why I'm into that wrestling match here. Yeah, that's going to be interesting. Yeah, I think Chris, a little big for him. Yeah, and I think that's a big thing. It should go well for a while. Who is Joaquin fighting next? Brady. Sean Brady. Sean Brady. Is that in Miami? No. No, that's in Jersey. In Jersey. That's right. That's right. I'll be out in Philly next week with Brady. Shout out. Joaquin was on a tear until Kamaru got a hold of him. Shout out to Brady. That's why.

1:10:31That's one of his shirts. Are the two guys that are most worthy for a shot at the welterweight title? I mean, you got to think Ian Gary. But you also got to think Kamaru because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend. Right? One of the greatest welterweights of all time. And then he just beats Joaquin Buckley like that? I mean, like, Joaquin Buckley's a fucking monster. Buckley was on the fast rise. Right now, Wonderboy. He beat the shit out of Colby. Bro, beat the shit out of him. Joaquin doesn't get tired either, which is crazy. Like, you look at his physique. Yeah, you think he'll get tired.

1:11:06That guy's going to get cast out. He keeps that gas going for three fucking rounds. Full clip. Yeah, believe me. I've been watching him. been watching him for months now nah Sean Brady I think old turtle shell yeah that back of his is so preposterous he's staying at that weight right yeah he's not going down what about Olberg and Jiri this weekend you know what man if you're looking at it on paper if you just watch their movements Olberg is really fast he's really accurate and he's slick and he's a big tall motherfucker with great skills Yuri creates chaos and in that chaos you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond when the guy's still there when you crack him and he's all over you and he's doing wild shit he's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head he's a maniac but he's not faking it oh no he believes everything he says that's how that dude really lives Like he really does hit trees in the woods.

1:12:13He goes out there with a makiwara. He does all the hard style Japanese shit. And, you know, he spends time in the woods by himself alone. He does. He swims under the ice. He does the. Yeah, I saw that. I actually saw a video of that. Fuck that, dude. I mean, you have to find where the hole is. You got to come back. We had some people in there, too, just in case. He isn't that crazy. Listen, man, just look at that dude. his ancestors came over on a boat with a skull on it and they had fucking swords and they hopped off and started slicing people up. That dude is a motherfucking Viking. Whatever he is, those warrior genes that dude takes you to hell.

1:12:54He just can't do it without it. That style just doesn't work with Pereira. That's what I'm wondering does he walk into one here because he's going to get hit. Khalil beat the living shit out of him for two rounds. And then, you know, ran out of gas. Oberg's a big guy, too. Khalil's not a big, you know, if you look at him in comparison to some of the other guys in that weight class. He can make 85. Here's one that people are sleeping on. Merzikhanov. Yeah. I'm leaning Palo's way, I swear. You almost sold me on that yesterday. But Merzikhanov, man. Undefeated. Undefeated. Let me tell you something.

1:13:3437 and fought nobody I'm riding Who's he saying? He put Rockish to sleep though He put Rockish to sleep in the first round Dude he's slick He does shit in there He calls himself the professional He seems like a hitman Like some Russian hitman That comes to fucking kill people He believes in his power that's a fact It's not just his power man it's his skills When I look at him I'm like this is a smart guy He moves like a smart guy Everything's calculated Everything's technical. He's really hard to hit clean. He's a slick character. And he does shit, too. He overreaches. But he overreaches, I think, on purpose to get reads off you.

1:14:13If he senses the guy's moving away, he'll come in with big shots to try to get you to react and then counter. Like that right hook that he hit him with was almost like a jab that he dropped Rockich with. Just saw this movement that Rockich kept doing over and over again. And then, bang! Came in with a straight right jab. Almost like a hook jab. Palo's got a chin. Look at that. Watch that again. Look how slick this is. Yeah. Boom! He's a killer, man. We don't know what Paul Acosta's going to look like at 205, though. He's never fought it that way. Well, didn't he once when he didn't make weight for 85 against Marvin Vittori?

1:14:50Yeah. He forced Marvin Vittori. He was like, no, this fight is at 205 now. Remember that? Izzy fucked his mind up, I think. He definitely did. But he looked the best he's looked his last fight. Like, Kapilov, he just ran through him. Dude, you go back to when he was walking people down, like walk down Yoel Romero. Paul Costa, he was a bizarre guy. I remember when he saluted Yoel Romero in the middle of the fight. That was my favorite part. That was a great fight. That was a great fight. But nobody walks down Yoel Romero like that. Yeah, I'm kidding. There's that photo, that one photo of him head kicking Yoel.

1:15:22And Yoel's face is like all distorted. And you're like, how did he take that shot? It's his neck. You know his neck is fused. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's all one thing so it doesn't move. It's connected to his skull. That's crazy Yeah, and that nuts He's saying these comments. Look at that. Look at that photo. Oh, that photos bonkers imagine how tough you gotta be to be yo L Romero and Take that to the head when you know your neck has been through an insane operation. We have metal connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head. They implanted monster traps to hold his neck at the same time.

1:16:02Yeah, they were like, fuck. He's such a freak. Yeah, he is. He's an athletic freak. And you see he just fought bare knuckle. He's a specimen. Yeah. At 49? Yeah. And a lot of people disputed the decision. They thought he should have won. In Russia. Yeah, I don't know. Yoel Romero is a bad motherfucker. In Russia, yeah. I don't know how he does it. He looks great. Yeah, I don't know how he does it. If you told me he was 32, I'd believe you. He did RAF as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, who did he beat? Pat Downey. Beat Pat Downey. And then he came back and he lost the next one. Yeah, but he wrestled a legit dude.

1:16:38Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armin. Oh, I can't believe how good he is as a wrestler. Yeah. Who was the dude he tech-faulted? Giorgio. Giorgio. No, no, no. Lance. Oh, Lance Palmer. That's right. Lance Palmer. Bro. Yeah. Lance is a legit wrestler. Yeah, Lance Palmer is a legit wrestler. For sure. Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level. He's never wrestled guys at my level. Armin goes up there and tech falls him, bro. Giorgio did better. Yeah. But even Giorgio. You watch those videos that he does. Yeah. It's like$100 to me now. Yeah,$1 ,000 or whatever. Whatever it is.

1:17:10Yeah. Armin is a fucking bad man, dude. He's a bad man. I know. Yeah. If you wanted to fight for Ilya at 55, that's a very interesting fight. For sure. 100%. Very interesting fight. because he's hard to hit. He's very slick and technical, super flexible. You ever see those weird mobility exercises he does with twists and shit with weights? I know, yeah, yeah. It's crazy flexibility. He's definitely in his prime, man. He can't waste his life away right now. Stop headbutting people. Yeah, just do the right thing because you are in your prime right now and it doesn't last forever. He might already be champ if he could keep it together outside of the cage.

1:17:48You know what I mean? Who knows what would have happened in the Olivera fight. It was a proper fight a five-rounder, you know he's staying busy though It's not like he's on the couch I mean he's doing those He put Mokaev to sleep a couple weeks ago. Yeah, so that was a little too much. That was a lot Yeah, he kept it on 20 fiver Yeah, no, but like he kept it whenever they keep it on when the guy's already sleeping for too long It's like yeah, what are you what's going on here? You know, you gotta know he's out the fuck's happening Maybe some unkind words were exchanged. That's kind of my fault process That doesn't happen like each other.

1:18:20I'm sure that happened. Mokaev is a hothead. Yeah. He's been known to say some things. What did he get kicked out of the UFC for? What happened with him? I heard he was just mean to people, like mean to the staff. That's what I heard. He was just mean to the staff. I wasn't even talking. I was talking about when he did it to a streamer. I'm not talking about that fight. Oh, we're talking about it. No, no, no. I'm talking about him doing it to just putting somebody to sleep. I don't think I saw that. It was him on a couch, and he put the guy to sleep. This is a regular Joe. Armin did this? Yeah, man.

1:18:52Jamie? No, no, no. Sorry, Jamie. I'm not putting it on, Jamie. But, yo, yo, he put him to sleep, and he held that shit on for an extra too many seconds. Look at this. Watch this. No, no, I'm telling you. You tell me if you think it's too long. That guy's neck makes me sad. But now look. To know that he's going to do that to him, and I'm going to have to see this. Now, ready? Let's see. Now he's out, right? He lasted a long time. Yo, let down, man. What are you doing? He's out already. That's really crazy. That's really crazy. You are a killer. That's really crazy. That's so unnecessary. That's what I'm saying.

1:19:35What the fuck? Yeah, that's a lot worse than I thought it was going to be. Sorry, guys. I hate to bring the room down. The crazy thing is Armin knows he was out right away. Dude, that's what I'm talking about. Also that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked Due to it when I saw his neck like his neck is making me feel sad cuz I know that's gonna hurt That fucking gorilla that dude's got a clamp on him man little fuckers having soup for a week after that Right, that's a problem. I'm in fucking grip is so incredible man I'm just very impressed with him man very impressed with his grappling.

1:20:09I just wish he could keep it together Yeah, I mean I mean his striking is not bad neither like he's okay His first fight with Islam was very close. Very close. First fight in the UFC. I don't even think he got a full camp. Probably not. I think it was a short-notice fight. And he fought very well. It's just crazy that fuck-ups have kept him from being at the top. The missing the title fight was the big one. That was the craziest one. His back hurt in the locker room. The day before. It's crazy. And you make Hinato Moicano go out there, not having prepared for him. Moicano looked good against Duncan Money I like what he gets on that mic too He starts talking shit I wish he would have started talking shit Even earlier I always liked the guy but he's fucking hilarious He might be the best in the business right now He's just not getting enough mic time When he gets on the mic time Money fucking Moicano It's hysterical Their podcast he's good on there With him and I think Gilbert You know they all fucking bullshit.

1:21:13That's the thing. He's he's doing some streams on in we's doing them in English and in Portuguese But the Portuguese is doing better for okay, and he's like I'm making money off YouTube now like so I don't care anymore Yeah, I have my money like I have a big stream of revenue coming in from you subscribe

1:21:33You need some personalities in that fuck yeah, he's good to remember like his fight with Benoit Saint-Denis. Oh, yeah. He murked him. Saint-Denis is on his way to potential future title shop. That win looks real good. You can't judge him on that short notice shit. I know. What do you guys think of Hokit's shtick? He's so fun. You think it's fun? I think it's fun. I don't get it, man. I don't get it. Who are you talking about? I'm all for talking shit. It's not witty. It ain't funny. It ain't witty. It looks like he's trying too hard. Exactly. I love it. I don't get it. He's like a pro wrestler It's like pro-wrestling.

1:22:13He's a smart dude. Bro, you talk that guy. He's a smart dude. He knows what he's doing He's being a goof and well here's the thing about people that act really goofy and stupid You kind of you're a full game shit like they can trick you they can trick you think he's gonna be Curtis I don't know man Curtis is a lot You know it's a big step early in his career Curtis has a lot of power He's a big fucking dude. He's going to be a better wrestler probably. He's got a lot of MMA experience. But Hokut's a hard dude to solve. He's a really good wrestler, and he's fucking hyper-aggressive, and he's got his best.

1:22:45He puts the pace on. He's fast. He's athletic. He's one of the guys that I have my eye on. You think he can make 205, or you think he should? I mean, well, heavyweight's light, so maybe stay there. But really, we're just waiting for Gable. Yeah. Yeah. He's getting Romanov, I think, is wrestling him. I would not let him do that I'd be like what if you blow your ACL off what are you crazy why are you doing this you're going to be the heavyweight champion of the UFC and Romanov's a big dude man yeah I mean look I think he'll be fine but when you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson in MMA like when Mike Tyson was coming up that's what I think of when I see him I'm like how do you deal with that how the fuck do you deal with that he moves like a cat he's 240 pounds Olympic gold medalist And he can KO you smart ass guy in his corner.

1:23:34He's got John Jones as a mentor. Yeah, are you fucking crazy? Fight IQ John's you know, the highest one of the smartest guys Yeah, you got that guy in your corner and everybody's saying I mean He's on the only guys that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast Hmm. I was like I gotta talk. I mean he's accomplished I think enough anyway Yeah, I'd be a fucking Olympic gold medalist NCAA champion. It's young gotta be mid-20s. Oh, he's young He's young and they're doing it smart. You know, they gave him one of those. What do they call dirty boxing? Yeah, box Oh, yeah, dude, did you jump jump over the rope like it was not it was pretty sick He's such an athlete stood there and leapt over the ropes after he won

1:24:20He won the NCAA championships like he can do like round offs and bro like shit like literally boom boom boom like a gymnast It's fucking crazy. And I guarantee you that we attribute to the speed that he has and covering distance. He's dangerous, man. Watch this. Watch when he goes over this rope. This is crazy. Damn. It's BJ Penn jumping out of the pool right there. Exactly. I mean, that is crazy. But he just stuck the landing and started twerking. Effortlessly. He's a monster, dude. Real hard problem for people to solve. Anybody that wrestled named Gable, you better fucking be good. Yeah, and named after Dan Gable.

1:24:57After Dan gave him. So he's been wrestling since he's a toddler. And he's just such a fucking athlete. And so smart. Just dedicated. They're doing it smart, too. They're not just jumping him into the UFC right away. He's getting famous outside the UFC. That's the way to do it, for sure. That way you can get 10-10. Try to bring him along as much as you can. Yeah, fuck your 10-10. Come on, son. Well, when they sign him, they're going to give him more than that. But the thing is, you don't... Shit, he ain't getting that. Some people are of the opinion that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early because it'll ruin their motivation.

1:25:32I mean, there's truth in that. But, I mean, it's not who's that for you to say, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I want my money. Exactly. Yeah. You don't get to determine that. I want my money. Guess what? I think the cream will still rise to the top. I think the guys that are dedicated that have a lot. Like Floyd Mayweather, when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, would still never drink and run home from the club. From the club. So the people driving his Rolls Royce. So crazy. He's running behind it. Yeah. Look at Armin, man. That guy's got money. He doesn't give a shit. He's got a private jet.

1:25:59Armin's got a private jet. At least he's always on a private jet. It seems like he does it. Jesus. I think he's got some cash in it. His family has tons of money. Yeah. But he still has the desire to be the best. Yeah, exactly. It's either in you or it's not with that. Maybe that's why he can't get his attitude together, too. Perhaps, right? He doesn't need it. Yeah. A bit spoiled in that way, right? Yeah. Who's disciplining him? You know what I mean? He runs his town, I'm sure. What do you guys think about Hamzat and Strickland? Well, let me tell you. This comes down to Strickland's motivation.

1:26:33Well, I mean, he's got to be fucking motivated. How many more shots is he going to get? Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with them before. I mean, I know they say that Hamzat submitted them, but if you hear Strickland talk about it, they were doing positional rounds when you're starting on the back. He started on his back. I mean, come on. But I think when they moved around, I think he feels pretty confident with it. He's a hard guy to keep down, Sean. Yeah. Cardio is going to be on point. Who made Kamzot look human? Gilbert Burns, Kamar Usman. I mean, they made him look human. And Drake is, again, you don't want to see that rematch.

1:27:07Take the fifth round. But in that fifth round, he did get into some decent positions. He just got reversed right away. I mean, Sean, if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher. You know what I mean? He'll stay on him if he's hurt at all. He's durable. I mean, and everybody's saying how underrated his grappling is, the guys that are working with him. So, I mean, it's. That's all I've heard, too. And he's so hard to hit, man. He's got a weird style. It's very weird. It fucks you up. And he's really good at moving back away from shots. He's circling out while the hands are in your face, too.

1:27:41It's weird. He also throws, like, looping shots on purpose sometimes. Like, you would think it's bad technique. But he's, like, finding a way around your guard. Yeah. And he's catching you with weird stuff. and his fucking jab is on point. Was you calling that one? No. I was there for that. And you could hear it. You don't always hear that. You could hear the thud in his jab when Fluffy was blocking him. And it was hard. It was heavy. He was mixing his kicks in there well. He's going to have to watch that. And he wasn't getting hit, man. The thing about him, if you watch him when he's on point, he's so fucking hard to hit.

1:28:16He just fucked up with Alex. He just can't make any mistakes with Alex. It seems like everybody fucks up with Alex He doesn't negotiate with you you fuck up it's over you do you think that Do you think that translates to heavyweight with gone? Well, I don't think so I think gone is a little bit too I think Gary would decision like him Good chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his way to yeah, but that's what I'm saying like Scott is gone is gonna like if he mixes it up with him I think Alex will fucking could put him out here's one things gone Hasn't been 185 pounds since he was 12, right? Yeah, I mean that's a big oh he's heavyweight Athletic moves like a cat and he's got world-class striking skills man that Tom Aspinall fight that first round opened up a lot of eyes Like he look fucking good man.

1:29:06He opened eyes all right Hey, dude, I feel bad for Tom man because Talk about a guy that got the shit under the stick. Knuckled deep in his fucking eyes. Two surgeries. And everybody's like, ah, walk it off. Fucking poor guy. Really, really was. I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact. You know, I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people, like, what kind of injuries can be sustained from this. They're permanent. Look at Michael Bisping. Still can't see out of his right eye. You can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see.

1:29:41It's crazy. It's crazy to ask the guy's eyes been injured if it gets hit again it could rupture who knows who knows what kind of damage you have Who do you think was irresponsible? I mean, but in terms of handling the situation afterwards you think it was Tom's Well, I think or the UFC for not being like get this back on it If I was doing a press conference afterwards what I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eye pokes are. But I think we've neglected some simple solutions. And I think there's got to be a solution that we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes.

1:30:20Point deduction right away. Point deduction is the easiest. You touch someone's eyeball with your fingers. Unless it's a complete scramble. You're doing this. His head happens to be there. Yeah, maybe if you're doing this when the guys coming in and your fingers go in his eyes one point every fucking time every fucking time for sure No, no judges discretion. Yeah, no, you know, no referees discretion poking the eye out one point Did you ever ask Dana about the pride gloves? What happened to him? I did You know, I don't they should own that. I don't remember the heck right? That's good The best stuff is Trevor Whitman, right?

1:30:55Just I was trying to broker something and I might still be able to do that to try to figure it out out a way to just like those gloves are perfect the knuckles curve over your hands are in this position yes it does not impede your grappling it's easy to do that if you want to but the natural position is like this so if you're doing this it's because you wanted to do that it's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open like a lot of people complain about now they can just some mad scientists on this here's the mad scientist cover the tips of the fingers you don't use them anyway true nobody does this right so if you don't if you're always grappling like this, right?

1:31:31So cover it with like a mitten. Yeah, little mittens. Like a leather, with a leather top. Like a nice little mitten. So your thumbs are free, so you still have some potential eye pokes from thumbs, but that mitigates a lot of it. That mitigates a lot of it, and you completely stop all this stuff because now you have a solid thing that hits high. It's not going to go knuckle deep in. One finger goes in, one finger's on your eyebrows, and it's just fucking digging in. That's crazy. That would all stop if you had a mitten. Well, I mean, there's not a lot of eye pokes in bare knuckle. Right? Right.

1:32:05That is interesting. And it's because they're always like this. Yeah. Because they're not... It's true. It's just these guys, they get in there and they're just like... Yeah. So the way to stop it, really, I mean, it's take away points and guys will be like this more. Yeah. I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in... If you just think about MMA with gloves on, if it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things that's what it is like it's like they're trying to like avoid the takedown and everything and blocking kicks yeah everything so that's why you're doing this because like muay thai guys do this all the time boxing guys very rarely do that no very rarely yeah unless they're showing off and they're about to hit you with a big right hand like deontay wilder right yeah he'll he'll be yeah old school deontay wilder literally like hold his fist in front of your face and then wing one wing a nuclear bomb at your head.

1:32:59I think you just got to discourage guys to close your hands. Cover the fingers. Does he fight Joshua? I don't know. I don't know. I thought I heard something about that. That's a tough fight. He's too skinny for that. At this point, he looked good in the Chisora fight in moments. There was moments. He said, I love you and then Chisora said, I love you too. Then he hit him. Knocked him out of the ring. Jesus. Deontay said he backed off on him because he saw he was hurt and he wanted him to go home to his family. I love you too when he fucking knocked it to the ropes. Deontay did ayahuasca. And I think a lot of times when a straight-up assassin like Deontay Wilder meets God, it probably takes a lot of that mean out of your heart.

1:33:40You need a little of that mean to land those haymakers. You got to be angry. It's true. Yeah, you don't want to be half a hippie when you're going in there. You want to talk about one-punch power, though. That guy might be the greatest of all time. Deontay? He was pretty damn close. 48 knockouts yeah 49 fights

1:34:02Was not a great technical boxer he started late in life that right hand just was fucked Thor's hammer was dropping on people's heads Teddy Alice always calls it the eraser any mistakes you make that right hand erases them all I always wanted to see him fight got in Gano that would have been wild That would have been the fight to make. Him and Ngannou would have been the fight to make. Them two bombing at each other. They could actually still do that. Yeah, why not? They could still do that. Ngannou, if you want to look at it from a business standpoint, man, that guy's killed it. Yeah. Went over and got that crazy contract with the PFL.

1:34:36He got a chance to fight Tyson Fury. Knocks him down, becomes a legend. Then gets a big money fight with Anthony Joshua. That doesn't go so good. And then he has his reintroduction to MMA. He fights that dude, Hennon. Right, this 6-8-4-jillion guy. Takes him down, smashes him, beats him down. So he made, what,$20 million in that fight? Something crazy like that? He had a crazy contract, right? Yeah. And he had a contract where his opponent had to make at least$2 million. Who does that? Yeah. How do you not love the guy? I know. How do you not love that? Right. He puts it in his opponent must make at least$2 million.

1:35:11Yeah. I don't know, man. And now he's got to be making a lot for this Netflix thing. The first thing they got to pay him because they need legit names. And, you know, Felipe Lins, he fought at light heavyweight in UFC, right? Yep. Yeah. I worked with him a bit at top team. And, I mean, this is a big moment for him. That's all I can say. Like, I don't know how he's going to do. It's a big moment for him. Yeah. I'm happy Nate is making that money. Mike Perry, too. I'm happy for them. Yeah, I heard those guys are getting paid. It's nice because this is a thing where if a fighter is in contract negotiations, they have their last fight on the contract, and they decide not to fight or not to sign until after the fight.

1:35:53They do make that decision, which legally they can do, right? And all of a sudden, Netflix is calling. Yeah. Especially if you win big. If you win big, some stunning knockout. For sure. And then you come over to Netflix and make, what, 12 a fight? That's nuts. And that forces everybody. Forces everybody's hand. That's what business is supposed to do. That's how it's supposed to operate. It's good That's what's good for the fighters. That's the most important thing And that's good writers, but that's but that's just like that's why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable I hope so too.

1:36:25Yeah, because like if they just do a one-off or say again, I'm a terrible businessman. Yeah, I'm terrible at it Yeah, me too, but Just give the money to the fighters. They they they're the ones who fight right without that you got nothing right Everybody's making plenty of money. Yeah. Come on. It's going to be big, though, for sure, this thing. Everybody's going to watch it, I think. A hundred percent. It'll be huge because everybody has Netflix. They're going to watch it. It's going to be crazy. Ronda could become a superstar again. Well, she's already a superstar. But, I mean, if she wins again, then people start talking about, like, maybe Ronda's going to come back to the UFC.

1:37:00And then maybe it's like a WWE moment. Ronda and Dana shake hands on a stage with, like, Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them. And Drew Skeek dance. Ronda, Kayla Harrison, White House lawn number two next summer. I don't think she would do well in the UFC, but this is great for her. She's done with the WWE and all that stuff. Yeah. I bet it's probably hard for her. I mean, she probably enjoyed the job. It was a great job. Made her a lot of money. But it's probably hard for an elite competitor to do these stage things. I mean, she's an elite competitor. competitor. Because instinctively, she just wants to compete.

1:37:41100%. She doesn't want to fake compete. I mean, some guys did it right. Kurt Angle turned out to be a real good pro wrestler, you know, despite being a gold medalist. It's a great gig. Don't get me wrong. But I'm saying for someone who still can fight. Angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestling. Who won the Olympics with a broken neck? Jesus. Savage. I just went to the headquarters in Connecticut. It's pretty well. Oh, nice. Yeah. That's right. I saw you did something with that. I did Stephanie McMahon's podcast. She's very nice, Stephanie McMahon. Nice. And I seen that whole fucking place.

1:38:16If you're into WWE, it's like a fucking nerdgasm. Right. I'm not really into it. Bro, Tony Hankscliff would cream his pants. Oh, my God. Would cream his pants. He's already been there, I'm sure. Oh, yeah. He's working with them now. Is he? Yeah, yeah. He's doing stuff with the WWE. Is he writing for him? He's going to be in some shows. Oh, my God. He's going to be a bad guy doing some things. He must be ahead. He should be like a manager. He's so happy. He's so happy. That's great. I don't know how much I could talk about this. I have to be quiet. I don't know how much this is public, but they're doing a, they've already, they're already announcing they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony and he's going to roast like WWE people.

1:38:53They're going to do some stuff like that. They're doing a lot of collaborations together. It's perfect. That guy's a giant wrestling fan. He loves it. Yeah. The guys that love it, love it. He fucking loves it. And he's the best roaster too, man. The best. When I be seeing him at the fights, I don't say shit. I'm like, yo, I don't want him coming at me. He had Dana's back. That's my boy. Yeah. He had Dana's back for the fucking time we had to do that thing at the Laugh Factory. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dana's like, yeah, we're going to do this thing. And nobody's coming in prepared. Meanwhile, he had Tony Hinkliffe.

1:39:23Yeah. He wrote his whole set like two months prior. That's hilarious. Yeah, Tony's the best at that shit. He's the best at cracking people. Cracking on people, cutting people down. But the people that love that soap opera world of the WWE, I don't hate on it. I see how much they love it. It keeps you entertained, man. They like it. You know what I mean? They're really smart at mixing things up and bringing in new characters and having new crazy moments. And if you're a nerd like Tony, like, yeah, it's not happening. They go nuts. It's like the same escape of watching. It's a male soap opera. Yeah, but it's like the same kind of escape that you get if you're watching Game of Thrones.

1:40:04It's just an escape. This is silly. For sure. This is crazy. Oh, my God. He's back from the dead. But that's where I draw the line. I can't do it there. I draw the line there. I can't do that. And I ain't got no problem with it. I just can't do it. I'm in the same camp as you. It's not my thing. I don't watch it, but I respect it. I respect how hard it is to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's fucking incredible. Very difficult to do. Remember, Matt, we wrestled in Memphis. Yeah, we did a little thing in the street. But we were just winging it. Yeah. I was hoping you'd just let me get a submission while you'd fight me off.

1:40:40Come on, man. I hurt my knee. It was tough, man. I was like, damn, this is harder than I thought. Oh, them guys take a beating for sure. You can learn how to fall, but you're still falling. I met Hulk Hogan twice. I met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC. It was when we were on, I think we were on Spike back then. But I met him a long time ago, and he was 6 '5". He's this giant fucking dude. I was like holy shit. It's Hulk Hogan and then I saw him the last time he did my podcast And he's like four inches shorter and it's all from getting it all of his spine fused He was like a big guy still but it was he used to be a giant He was like this towering fucking crazy guy bald under under lips.

1:41:25He was so fun That dude was so fun, but uh That's how many back surgeries he had and he said it was all from that move that he had we dropped down like oh The big seat drop exactly so the seat drop every time he does that is compressing discs 300 like 300 plus yeah Every night dropping down every night and just blowing his back out his back was just destroyed Wow Destroyed every every vertebrae destroyed every disc blown apart herniations all throughout barely could walk I was watching The Princess Bride the other day with fucking Andre the Giant anybody want a peanut? yeah he's fucking great my name is Diego Montoya love that you're kidding my father such a great movie great movie yeah put that on for the family have the kids watch it it's a classic yeah that's one that last ages it goes through generations Look at that fucking movie.

1:42:25Yeah, yeah, it holds up. Fucking love it. You know? They don't make them like that anymore. I just saw that Project Hail Mary. That's a nice one for the family. What is that? It's when Ryan Gosling goes to space and fucking has to save the world type of thing. But, you know, it's more than that. But that's pretty much the premise. Where are these Artemis people at now? Are they passing the moon yet? They already did. They passed it? What happened? So when did they land yet? Are they back yet? Where are they? They should be probably back in the next day or two. Well, who's going where? They went around the moon.

1:43:00They went all the way around the moon? All the way around the moon. No, they just went around it. They just went around and saw the dark side of the moon. Yeah, they took photos of the dark side of the moon. Oh, really? Yeah. They crashed on Friday. Splash. Splash on Friday. I was getting ready to say, what? They crashed? So they land tomorrow. Wow. So the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not. It's not dark. The sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon. Is that true? Yeah. It's the way the—I used to think—I'm a retard. I used to think that the reason why we only see one side of the moon is because the moon doesn't spin.

1:43:38That's what I thought. No, no, no. The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates. But when we see it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is, is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us. Right. So when it goes the other way, there's a different side that's facing us, but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark. Right. That's what it is. So they took pictures of the other side. Exactly. Yeah. And there's aliens everywhere. I was about to say, yeah, I was about to say, what's on the other side? There's pyramids. Fucking buggies.

1:44:09Civilization on the other side? What's on the other side? And in that movie, he finds an alien, by the way. Oh, he does? It's not really a spoiler. It's in the trailers. I had that guy Bob Lazar on again recently. Who's that? You want to see a great documentary? that it's fun. First, I would say Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is Area 51, Bob Lazar, and Flying Saucers. Is that what it's called? Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers. So this guy was an engineer, and he was hired to work on these spacecrafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were. And they told him, like, try to figure out this propulsion system.

1:44:45They brought him into this hangar, and this was in, like, 1988. And it's a flying saucer. that looks exactly like that thing on the desk. Jesus. And it has an American flag sticker on it. And so he's like, oh, it must be ours. And then he gets in it and he's like, what the fuck is this? It's made for people that are three feet tall. There's no controls, no buttons, nothing. Why are you looking at me, motherfucker? Why? You only got to confirm that, motherfucker. Why are you three feet tall? You look right at me, you son of a bitch. But he's got a new one out called S4. I recommend it to anybody.

1:45:18They did like CGI and they de-aged him. Is it on Netflix or YouTube? No, it's on Amazon. Amazon? Some other places. What's it called again? S4. S4. I was just watching a series with you on it, Ancient Apocalypse. Was I on that? Yeah, you was in that. Oh, with Graham Hancock. Yeah, Graham Hancock. That's right. Yeah, Graham was my man. Do you know Rodrigo Gracie? Yeah. Good buddy of mine, my old roommate. He's a fucking wacky guy. he's fucking funny funny as shit so you know we were just out to eat last night with dan her we were talking about him god i love that guy and he's like oh he's great and he's like oh i'm glad that harrigo's matured i was talking about how he's doing good he just visited me he did my podcast and he did a seminar at my place so you know i was catching up with him so he told me he was visiting area 51 with his wife and he goes so yeah you know i always wanted to go there so So me and Fernanda, we drove down there.

1:46:14And no, nothing was happening. So then I'm driving back. You got to drive back hours through like the dark desert, right? So he's driving back. And he goes, Fernanda fell asleep. So I had my laser pointer. So I'm just pointing at a sign, pointing at this. He goes, Matt. And then I saw blue lights in the distance. He goes, I want to make contact. He goes, she was sleeping. so I started taking my laser pen and pointing at it he goes and I didn't think nothing of it and then all of a sudden I'm driving and I hear and a yellow circle around my car and I wake up Fernanda she's like what did you do and he's like I just took my laser pen it was a helicopter fucking following him and he goes he was getting down to like almost my roof.

1:47:10I didn't know what to do. They had a yellow spot around my fucking car. So she told me, we called the police. So they go, look, there's a helicopter following us. And they go, are you in a, they said the car, everything. They go, the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop, up or whatever. So he goes to the rest stop, takes his laser pointer. He gets there, he throws it in the garbage. I don't know why. And then he comes out. But they're like, look, they put him in cuffs. And he goes to his wife. He goes, go in there and get the laser pen. It's in the bathroom. She goes in the men's room through the garbage, finds it.

1:47:47So they're saying, all right, you were shooting, interfering with a military helicopter or whatever it is. In other words, it's a major crime here that he could be facing. He goes, man, I was shitting myself. The two pilots come over. One of them takes off the helmet. cauliflower he is he goes fucking thank you he trained under my cousin he goes the guy's bowing to me he goes my wife's yelling at me so he got out of it the guy trained under he's a brown belt oh my god how lucky dude that's so lucky i don't fucking i rego man only you bro that's so lucky yeah they probably thought they were trying to like fuck with planes because kids do that they shine laser beams at planes it's like a real problem is it it'll get in their eyes while They're fucking flying the planes.

1:48:34Oh, yeah, I can see that. The lasers go all the way up to a plane. I used to be with Rodrigo on 27th Street. He's like, man, watch this. We'd be out the window. The guy's walking down the street. Fucking, he's like, ah, look at him jump on the cover. Look at him. He's going to hell. That's what he's doing. Put fucking lights in. That laser pen's still getting him in trouble. That's so ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people would think it's a laser sight on a rifle. Exactly. That's what the fuck he's doing. Take that down. Don't do that. don't do that around here he thought he was making contact he's making contact, he's got a chopper yeah, they keep talking about making contact I'm tired of hearing about it let's do it already, god damn it yeah, I want to see it it's just dick teasing us ah shit, I don't think but you're a sci-fi guy oh man, have you watched the Dune movies or no?

1:49:25you don't want to give it a shot I do, I don't have any time when I get home too If it's late at night when I'm home and I'm by myself watching shit, I don't want to watch anything like that. I want to watch documentaries. I was about to say, man, take a week off of a documentary on the pyramids. We're not going to find out what happens with the pyramids next week. Watch Dune. They're getting close, man. The Dune movies are so fucking good. I heard they're amazing. Josh Brolin is great. Now they've got the Dune Messiah. Yeah, Mamoah was in it. They've got a third one coming out, right? Yep, third one coming out.

1:50:00And this guy can't miss. Everybody keeps telling me how awesome they are. They are good. They are good. No, they're very good. I tried to watch it. It was kind of slow. Yeah, you know what? You get that. Just slow. Yeah, it's kind of slow. Descenting opinions. Yeah. I don't know. Hey, you know what else? Who else is coming out with a movie? Who? Come on. Just like we planned. Remember you told me, hey, bring that shit up. No, no. He came out with a... I paid him. Flowers. Flowers. I did a short film. That's why Dean picked up dinner last night. No, I did that because of my new job. I'll tell you right now, he almost gave me a heart attack when you reached for that fucking bill.

1:50:42Is this a movie that you put together? Yeah. What's it about? It's about a female in an abusive relationship. Wow. Look at you, Mr. Sensitive. There it is. Oh boy. No shit. The multi-talented. nothing to do with cage fighting look at that that's incredible dude congratulations that's awesome I'm going to start shopping at the film festivals next week I like when people spread their wings you got to life is short you don't want to be in a box you want to be able to do all kinds of different things and you can do whatever the fuck you want so I try to do whatever the fuck I want I'm telling you that's how to live Yeah.

1:51:27That's how I live. There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do. That's a hell. It makes me sad, actually. It's a sad existence. You know, and a lot of people are doing it because, like, you got to take care of your family, and I get it, and I respect it. Maybe you have a good time at work. That's great. But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathing, you should do it. You should try. At least try it. Get it out of your head. I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day-to-day. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I'm not like you, Dean Thomas. I don't want to do shit.

1:51:56He's got another job every other week He does He's asking how I'm doing I'm like dude My school Talios Pizzeria No bro mate No bleach And my podcast I'm having fun with And UFC Unfiltered Dude it's just such a Perfect little thing for me I don't want to do anything else Beautiful It's so much fun There's a lot of Power in saying no Oh You know Saying no to things I don't want to do anything more Like just Enjoy what you're doing Yeah, you don't have to keep piling on but the thing is once things start going good you start saying boy I better not say no to nothing. No. Yeah Yeah, no, I want to do that.

1:52:35Yeah, I'll find the time But once but once you get to the point where you can say no, that's a great place to be It's the best place is your heart in it or not. Do you want to do that? Exactly. Exactly man The day-to-day your day-to-day life. That's what I love about longer long goes You know, it's funny. He's holding for my daughter now, which is so great She had her first kickboxing, Imagine 1, I told you. But, like, he's doing... He sent us the pictures in the group chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing, right? That's so... Such a proud moment. Oh, so proud. And it's so... It's just so cool, man, when I see him holding for her, like...

1:53:05That's awesome. He doesn't have... Like, you know, he just... That guy just is doing... He's just doing the same thing. He is awesome. You and him... That he's always done. If Paramount was smart, they would do a fucking... A whole series of you and him traveling to fights, working with people, hanging out and cornering each other. You guys in the corner are so, it's fucking, I'm like, keep the camera on Sarah. Ain't that the truth? It's the truth. We always talk about it in the commentary. Like, it's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner. Good technical advice, but it's just fun. You guys are fun together.

1:53:35Just on an amateur card, we just got brought back together for one of my fighters, Adrian. This young Filipino guy. He's a good kid. Nurse. He's a nurse. Always smiling. They're all nurses, brother. He went in. My wife's a nurse, too. Filipino. But he went in there and he's just like, I just have just my one wish is to have you and Ray in my corner. He's such a nice kid. So we went in there. We cornered him. We didn't have to work the corner. The first round, he flatlined this guy. Nice. Oh, man. So, yeah, man. You guys are great on your podcast together, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got a crazy friendship.

1:54:10It's perfect. It's like the banter's hilarious. The two of you guys, you compliment each other perfectly. It would be a great show. I'm telling you. They better do something soon before the first episode is me and the guys taking Longo to a home. He's not getting any younger. Hey, guys, field trip, Longo. Where are we going? Don't let him talk to you like that, Ray. I'm in your corner, Ray. Fucking road trip to the fucking home, Longo. Longo's got a lot of life. He's fucking good. Oh, my God. What do you think of Gilbert Burns versus Mike Mallott? is Gilbert's lost four in a row, but he did it to all killers.

1:54:48Yeah. You know what I mean? Malad's a tough guy. Malad's getting better. Only lost once to Neil Magny in a fight that he was doing great in, but then he got Neil Magny because that guy's fucking survived. Never gets tired. Never gets tired. Ultimate discipline. Always in shape. He righted the ship since then. Yep. And that kid's like the next Captain Canada. He's doing... People, they make an unfair comparison, like, are you the next George? That type of thing. But he's his own fighter. Right. He's got a great skill set. good head on his shoulders Family of studs his brothers like an ice hockey fuck it's a good test for him Gilbert at this stage of his career You know yeah see if he still got it.

1:55:22Yeah, you know He's the first guy to make comes out with human, but when no when Morales did that to Gilbert I was like Jesus Christ Morales is terrifying. He looks so big. It doesn't know yeah I know he doesn't make any sense so when we I was with Brady when Brady got beat by him and at the weight and he looked okay, right? You know, a guy, he's 170 pounds. Then the next day, he steps into the cage and we're just looking like, oh my God. He was huge. Massive. Massive. Yeah. And when you're that much taller and you're the better striker, God, that's such an advantage. Yeah, it's a huge advantage.

1:55:57Because you can stand six feet away from a guy and just be like, Bougari last week. Oh my God. Like I know Mansoor He trained it with ground control as a kid before he went off to college and all. I mean, the only thing I can say, first off, obviously, he was not ready for him yet. But he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking stayed in there and took it, man. I was just thinking the exact same thing. I hope he comes back. I mean, personally knowing him, I felt horrible watching that. He wasn't ready for that yet. When you get an elite striker, you've got to realize that guy beat Pereira in glory.

1:56:35Yeah. Pereira knocked him out twice after that. But in the first fight, he beat Pereira. I think people thought he looked like ordinary in his first couple. He came out with a new version, and it was fucking impressive. He's fucking good, and he's training with Pereira now. And Glover. And Glover. Yeah. That's a great fucking camp. And Glover has so much knowledge. Yeah. That guy was in the dark for six years where he couldn't get into America. And during those six years, he was the boogeyman. Everybody talked about Glover. They're like, there's a guy that's in Brazil. He can't get to America.

1:57:08But if that guy gets here, he's fucking everybody up. And that was Glover. Glover was, he was always training with Chuck. Chuck in Hackleman. Yeah, in Hackleman. Yeah, up in SLO. And they're in Danbury, Connecticut. That's so amazing. And that's. They're not on the beach. Yeah, they're not in Vegas. They're not at the fucking. There ain't shit to do out there. Yeah, all they're doing is training. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Just nothing but Lyme disease in the woods. Right? And federal prison in Danbury. Yeah. Yeah, Connecticut is a good place to just not get distracted. Just get to work. Danbury is where Rodrigo Gracie broke my elbow.

1:57:42I was there. Yeah, you was there? I was there. I didn't know you was there. Niagara? You know I was there. Yeah, Niagara, yeah. Damn. Did you have to get pins in it? No, I mean, they reset it, cast it. No pins. He told that story at the seminar. Oh, he did? I had to bring that up. I was like 25 years old. He said it. Because we weren't close at the time. And I was yelling shit, but I regret that too. What did you yell? Break it. Because he let it go. He let it go. And you didn't tap. Well, yeah. Which was great. And then I was yelling at him for letting it go, which I was just psychotic. Because you're my friend now.

1:58:23But at the time, it was just... Well, to be fair, if I knew it was going to break, I would have tapped. Yeah. I didn't know it was going to break. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the story told. Then he said that Henzo yelled at him, too, after that. For letting it go? Why are you getting soft? Why you let that shit go? Bro, I got to get Henzo in here. He's the best. He's definitely. We were going to do it at one time, but he was only in Austin for a short amount of time, and I didn't have anything open. I couldn't get him in. I'd love to sit down with that guy. What a legend. Yeah, he is. Stories for days.

1:58:54And he's one of those guys, like, you hear about a guy getting a black belt, and you're like, okay. And you go, you got a black belt from Henzo. You're like, oh. Okay, definitely. it's like Henzo Hickson Jean-Jacques Machado there's a few of those guys that are like okay that's a real black belt like I mean Henzo's New York place is like one of the most legendary places in the history of jiu-jitsu if you had read a history of jiu-jitsu the Henzo Academy in New York City holy shit man he came over in 96 we had like an in school tournament you know what I mean it was great because Craig Kukuk already had two schools for him He had a jersey school and where's that guy?

1:59:34No clue man. No one knows He went to like that was my first and disappeared my first instructor But he was not an easy guy to he'd never let you get too close. I bought all the tapes

1:59:46Learned a mount escape One day I was like, oh shit. It was a very good a teacher I was with him for two years Before he was an early Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt. Yeah, he was a black belt like early 90s, right? Like the Steve Maxwell era. He was one of the earliest ones. I found out about him through the Gracie newsletter that I was applied to at like 17. I used to get that. Because when you buy the tapes, you get a newsletter. And one newsletter, it was like every few months, it was announcing the first American Black Belt. And then like two newsletters later, they disowned him. They had a business.

2:00:19But then I found out through Black Belt Magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city. I go, all right. They might have disowned him, but they couldn't take away his skill set. But there was no place to learn on the East Coast, except for Maxwell in Philly. So that's how I found Ku Kluk. And then he partnered up with Henzo, and then I went with Henzo when they broke up, obviously. Why did they break up? I remember Henzo took me out to eat one time, and he's like, look. And I always got along with Henzo so much better, right off the bat. Like, Henzo was just so warm and great.

2:00:52He invited me over to his house, and he was just such a, and Craig was always kind of a wall. He was a big German guy. But I remember one time he told me, like, look, something with the business where he wasn't, felt like he was being treated fairly. I'll just leave it like that. And then he goes, look, he goes, no one likes Craig. He goes, if you go with him and me, he goes, people will go with him because of you, because they like you. But I want you to come with me. I go, look. I go, and at first I'm like, is any, you know, I was a young kid. I didn't know. I go, is there any way you guys could make up?

2:01:23He goes man if it was Brazil he'd be already dead

2:01:36With Hanzo and Craig kind of left him so Matt Where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from Hanzo? I'm the first American of the Hanzo. Okay, so you know that. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's something that could that's my biggest achievement right there. You know, he took me under his wing, Henzel. Again, I was a purple belt. He got me out of a security guard booth, taking me to Japan to corner him versus rings because he wanted me to see what it's like backstage. Dude, I was nobody. I didn't do anything yet. I'm like, oh, shit. Really? Japan?

2:02:07So he would just do stuff like that. Yeah, he put a lot into me. So I can't thank him enough, dude. That fucking camp. You just think about how many elite black belts Henzel produced. They and then think of the John Dona her branch of it. Yeah, I know yeah, right Generationally like it just it dominates all the generations of jiu-jitsu Especially now if you think of what Dona has done. Yeah, you know, I mean his prize guide Gordon Ryan Chris of all time for sure But I mean even on the other side who they don't get along with so much now like that like Nikki Rod and a hundred are still from Dona Yeah, yeah, yeah, and all elite of the elite.

2:02:45Yeah No, John. That's a crazy lineage. That's a guy that just put... He's 100 % of himself into it and he's got a genius mind. I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad LeBron, who was moving back to Virginia, gave him something. He gave him one so he could watch. It had, I think, a VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes. He just used it to study. I have a question for you. Whatever happened to Eddie Wolverine? I asked him about that last night. What's his last name again? Cummins. Cummins. What did he say? He got into some kind of business now?

2:03:18He's not really training as much. God, that guy was good. Yeah, he was good. He was leg locks, man. Early in the day. Yeah. Like, as the leg lock revolution was unfolding, that guy was at the front lines. Yeah, that was John's first, you know, savage he put out. I remember. And, you know, just super, super technical, you know? Yeah, a little guy, too. And trained a lot of those guys in leg lock technique, too. You know, they all shared techniques. Oh, yeah. I think it's just amazing that John drives. He never drove into a car. I drove with a rash guard on Adidas sweatpants dressed up last night.

2:03:54He had an all blacks polo shirt. I go. Yeah New Zealand. Yeah Yeah, a new I asked him he goes what up what no rash guard and he goes oh I got dressed up for you tonight Well, you probably went back home to his family and his mother was like right honey Stop wearing the rash guard everywhere It is crazy that's Hollywood wear. He's teaching at Kingsway now, Gordon's school. Now that Gordon's done competing, he's got that school going on. He's like a character in a movie. He's not supposed to exist. Better? Yeah. He's a philosophy major at Columbia who falls in love with jiu-jitsu because he's a bouncer.

2:04:31Who bounced at scores. He's like jacked powerlifter bouncer who played rugby. He was like 220. He was yoked up. Jacked. And so then he learns jujitsu becomes obsessed with jujitsu, but his body's all fucked up from rugby He's got a fucked up knee then his hip gets fucked up and so he can't really compete But he is such a jujitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time It's kind of nuts. It is nuts. That's all he cares about like he doesn't give a shit about anything He doesn't give a fuck about social media Look at John That's one of my favorite. Oh my god Full head of hair, jacked, looking ready for a gay date.

2:05:11John Deftly. It almost looks like he had a skirt on. Yeah, he does. Like he was a really jacked transitor. John Deftly would rock a headgear, too, when he wrestled. He was a bad motherfucker, dude. Bad motherfucker. I know a lot of people who rolled with him that were shocked. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, John would do privates and wrestle everybody all day long. Yeah, he lived it. He still lives it. That's all he does. And it's just so fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart in everything. He's really well-read history, all kinds of – he's a very interesting guy to talk to. He's a genius.

2:05:44But he becomes obsessed only with jiu-jitsu. He didn't have a family. He doesn't have a wife and kids he's got to take care of. I love that. Choking people. When you have us out here, it's like a routine now. Now every time we come out, I get dinner with him. I don't see him too often. Right. It's great. It's like a little reunion each time we come to town. I'd be with him how many days a week. We'd just train and go to Burritoville. They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic, and they were having a hard time there. And I was like, come to Texas, baby. Come on down. I'll tell you, you're the Pied Piper.

2:06:16They all ended up here. Well, it's a fun place, man. It really is. Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while, though. I was talking to Nicky Rod about that. He said it was great. He was like just being in Puerto Rico with your friends in a frat house training jiu-jitsu all day. It was amazing. Well, especially because they were shut down yeah, and in Puerto Rico you have outside like you can get light into the room So it kills the fucking staff better. Yeah, right how many guys got staff from that the basement jujitsu right? Right, right. I was used to blue. Yeah, a lot of people got staff There's a lot of funk that gets on those mats that if you're not careful his belly with all the antibiotics That's from staff dude my fucking belly Joe on the way here on the way to the Because I always got my issues, but I usually give myself like if I'm going somewhere like on a car trip or anywhere I got clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours Like I'll give myself my espresso in the morning two seltzes And then I just let it go to work and I'm pushing on my belly because I things get stuck in there So I thought I gave myself enough time and I was going to JFK from my house 30 minutes.

2:07:24It was 9 in the morning We 10 minutes into that fucking car trip. I go. I'm not fucking making I go, I'm not. And the guy was, my driver was such a good guy. What a nice guy. I gave him a fucking tip. Good tip. So we're driving. I go, let me just keep watching videos on my phone. I'm like, let me just try to let my mind go somewhere. The clock wasn't moving. I look back. I go, that's another minute. I go, there's no way I'm making this. So I'm on the Bell Parkway. It's not like you could just pull over. So I go, you know, I go, buddy, I go, I go, I'm sorry, man. And I go, I'm not going to make it.

2:08:01I go, we got to pull over. He goes, oh, there's no way really to pull over. You want me to take an egg? I go, go off an exit. I go, you're going to have to do something. I go, I'm not making it. I go, can I have your 7-Eleven cup? I go, he goes, oh, do you have to pee? I go, no, I'm going to shit in your cup. I go, no, I'm sorry. I go, I'm sorry, sir. I go, but I go, I go, I knew it was, it's just, it's going to happen. And it's my biggest fucking fear. And it's coming to life. So this guy, no, it's okay. He got over. We almost hit a fucking car. I'm on the side. There's not even bushes or anything.

2:08:38There was some brush. Nobody could see you behind the car. Everybody saw me. You know, this guy. You could sit on the top of your head. I got out. As I'm taking my pants down, fucking, I'm going, thank goodness I made it. And, fuck, I get back in. I go, buddy. You shit in the cup? No, I didn't shit. I just piss. Oh. But it's like, well, I mean, I felt my asshole bubbles, but nothing. You know, when you feel like, you know. It's like that with you when you have to pee, too? Sometimes I have to do both. Like, I'm like, I have to pee, but I know to really get it all out, I have to push it. Hey, everybody, how's my ass?

2:09:17So with pee, though, like, you can't just hold pee? Man, I can, but not to this. Not like how you used to be able to? Well, it's not like, it's one of those things where I have to clear out in the morning, and I thought I totally cleared out, but sometimes I'm like, all right, I'm good. I pushed out totally, and then it kind of just gets something else in the chamber or something. I'm like, oh, no, there's still something left. So we're driving, and I'm like, when I get the feeling, it's such a horrible feeling because it's not about willpower. It's not about thinking of something. I'm like, dude, it's going to fucking happen.

2:09:55this is the day that I just piss myself it's gonna but thank dude I gave a custom tag it was$78 for the road for the trip I gave him a$50 tip I go dude thank you bro you're a fucking hero this guy fucking saved my fucking ass because someone else they'd be like hey dude fuck off with it or don't do this in my car I go give me a cup he's like oh do you have to pee obviously Obviously. But, dude, he made it. But I couldn't do it. I fucking, a 30-minute drive there, I couldn't fucking make it. That's crazy. It's scary. But as you get older, it's hard to hold it, man. It's hard to hold it. But no, I think it's my ulcerative colitis.

2:10:36It has to do with that. It has to have something to do with that. But. Because that sounds crazy. Dude, I. The pee just comes on that quick. It was, I, I've had it before, but like, I don't know if I told you, I maybe said it the last time here, we were going to an aquarium out east with my family. And it was one of those things, just like this. and I get out of the car and then we're looking and I'm like, I can, and then I see there's like a line out the door. I go, I'm not making this. There's no way I'm making this. So I go, honey, she goes, okay, go, go. So I fucking, there's like a post office with those, those bushes that come straight up like they're all tight together.

2:11:08I fucking smoosh myself through. The second I take my dick out, fucking bees come around my fucking head. I go, dude, I'm going to get stung because I'm not going out with my dick. And fucking, I didn't get stung, But I definitely had some on the front of my pants.

2:11:28What are you going to do? I'm a very clean person. Thank God you're not a woman. Imagine being a woman in that situation. Ooh, man. There's no hiding it. But yeah, man, these are the things you got to deal with when you get older a little bit. I am getting my stem cells. That's hopefully going to help me. What is the cause of ulcerative colitis? What do they say causes it? I don't know. I mean, I think some of it's my history. I know one of my brothers had Crohn's, which is even worse. Crohn's disease to level up. Yeah, man. So I know my grandfather. When he was getting older, though, he had some shit.

2:12:01Have you ever, like, swore off pasta? Well. Just, like, taken, like, months off? Just try to go carnivore? I did go gluten-free for a while, you know? But, you know, even espresso. I go, come on, man. I got to live. Listen, I know. I'm with you. Every time I go to New York, I have to eat Italian food. Like, I'm looking forward to May, the Jersey shows, so I can get some fucking New Jersey Italian food. I got to take your Italians, bro. You'll love this pizza, bro. Let's go. You will. You loved it. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to come up next week. I'm sure I love it. I'm sure I love pizza. No, no, just their fucking, no bleach, no probate.

2:12:37Don't give me stuff. But it's so, I could eat it. I could eat three slices on the way to my school, and I'm not fucked up. I could train, and it's fucking, if I did that with a fucking regular slice of pizza, dude, I want to take a nap. Yeah. You know? So it's even my wife now orders the zero zero flour the from Italy. Yeah, we get that She makes the pizza she makes fresh bread feel like out of Game of Thrones I'm in my suit that place So the Vegas place I yeah to it guy Tano's yeah all Italian flour all handmade pasta Yeah tonight we want to go to a place

2:13:15Get to my fucking hotel if you did that if it would have an effect you know who cured his fucking ulcerative colitis is georgest pierre how did he do he said it's one of the reasons why he was stopping fighting fasting fasting really yeah fasting did that that's what he said i mean but he does some hardcore like three long shit yeah he does like at least three right three days no i can't do that i do 24 hours sometimes yeah but that's not that hard. Yeah, I mean, you stay busy enough. I think if you're busy, definitely. Yeah, you just eat a big dinner and don't eat to the next dinner. What is that?

2:13:53Cherry cola. Ooh. It all started from here. It all started from here. But it is tasty. Ooh, that's delicious. Ooh, that's good. I know. I love it. They're illegal in California. They are? Isn't everything? Why? You can't have flavored nicotine in California. Why? What the hell is that about? Is that like, I don't know. Because they just want to be able to tell you what to do. Yeah. That is a symptom of the, you can go buy whiskey. You can go to CVS and buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself to death. But you can't buy flavored. But you cannot buy flavored Zins. That makes no sense. It makes zero sense.

2:14:31That makes zero sense. You can't buy flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids. Because you know how kids are. They just want to, they want flavored Zins. Yeah. I hear him talking about it all the time. It's so fucking stupid. It's so stupid. California's just so dumb. They just want to tell you what to do. It's a bunch of nannies. And if it's legal, they're going to tax it and regulate it to death. And everybody's moving out. People just flee in that state like it's on fire. Everybody's coming here. They're coming here. They're going to Tennessee. They're going to Florida. They're going anywhere.

2:15:00They could just be left the fuck alone. I think the hell bad it has to be. New York's not much better. No. Well, hell, everybody's running out of there, too. Not me. I'm there for life I'm not going nowhere yeah it just sucks when the government gets goofy and you're like what are you talking about now that Kathy Holcher lady is saying go to Palm Beach and get those people to come back to New York remember before all of you go move to Florida yeah that's what she said which is a crazy thing to say that's a crazy thing to say it's so delusional but that lady's nuts anyway yeah she said the vaccines were a gift from God She talks crazy.

2:15:40It's like people are so tired of Cuomo. They're like, who else? Okay, fine. You run it. You know what I mean? It's like, how has that lady become your best choice? That seems nuts. That makes me concerned that Stephen Corbett is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings. Who is? He's writing the movie or something, him and his son. And I know he's a fucking little bit of a weirdo. Colbert? Yeah. Colbert Report? Peter Jackson was making an announcement. I know all the nerd news. Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movie he's coming out with. And I'm partnering up with, well, let me show you.

2:16:16And all of a sudden, they go to Stephen Corbett reading a Lord of the Rings book. Oh, hey. You know, they planned it. And he's like, yeah, I took it from this part of the thing. Is he going to have any dancing syringes in there? Poor Tolkien. They shit all over his thing. That rings of power is just a fucking mess. Piece of shit. What is that? Rings of power? Orcs were. Yeah, they were like, yeah, they had feelings and they were like, they were like kids. They were like little kids. It was weird. What? Yeah. What is this? Rings of Power, the Amazon series of The Lord of the Rings, is the biggest pile of shit next to the acolyte.

2:16:56It's everybody shitting on our fucking childhood or shit on, they shit on the major franchises that had some really good lore, like everything from Star Trek, what the fuck they did with Everything Disney touched, they fucked up. Marvel, everything. Bro, how do you fuck up orcs? They made them terrifying. Yeah, no, they weren't terrifying. How do you fuck up the Hulk? Explain it. They make him smart, and they make him a pussy. They gave him glasses. Thanos kicked his ass, and he never got his balls back if the Thanos kicked his ass. Yeah, that's an orc, bro. Yeah, now watch him with the helmet.

2:17:28Click on that dude with the helmet. They look like they have feelings. Jesus Christ. No, no, no. They're making them like they're discriminated against. Oh, no, it's fucking brutal. That guy's got feelings, for real? Yeah, he had feelings. No, they're not supposed to have feelings. There's no more good versus evil. They're supposed to be like demons. Nope. Nah, now they're just... That one in the lower right-hand corner with the fucking helmet on? Look at that. Oh, fuck yeah, dude. You don't know his backstory. He might be a good guy. They were like, no, father, no, father. I don't want him to be a good guy.

2:17:56Me neither. I want orcs, old school, like from the movies. That's why that Night of the Seven Kingdoms was refreshing, because it had no bullshit in it. Hey, look, there you go. Wow. Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, give the guy a chance. Who knows? Maybe it's awesome. I was going to say he had a cameo in Desolation of Smaug. Oh, no shit. They did an animated series at The War of Roham, which was a piece of shit. They made a girl boss in there. They had all the cool dudes get killed, and the girl's killing everybody, and she knows everything. And they took it from one, she was in one paragraph and fucking in the thing, and they They just gave her this big backstory of being a badass.

2:18:37It's like the Fantastic Four with the female Silver Surfer. She appeared in maybe one or two comics. This bitch is not a main character, no shape, no how, but boom. There she is. Is the real Silver Surfer in it too? No. No. That seems silly. So there was a female Silver Surfer for a while? No. There never was? Like very sporadically. Oh, but there was. Maybe appeared in one or two. It was actually his. Now you're getting on my nerd side. Yep. It was his wife before he was the Silver Surfer. Like Shalabal was his chick. And the Russo brothers, they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did.

2:19:17So they're doing Doomsday, which is basically going to be... They're putting out Endgame again in the theaters. And it's going to take place directly after that. Good, good. Well, I heard Ruin King Thor's coming, so I'm fucking ready for that. They did Winter Soldier. It's like the highest level of Thor. Oh, that's fucking cool. Let's keep going. Oh, my God, you're such a nerd. He's fucking great. I don't know his comedy. The highest level of Thor. The highest level of Thor is such a crazy thing for a grown-ass man. Big-ass, fucking grown-ass man. The highest level of Thor. That stuff's my WWE.

2:19:58I love that shit. Because I grew up on the comics. I love comics. Me too. They ruined those fucking movies man. It's fucking Thor Ragnarok was fun dude love and thunder horrible Oh is my my friend the rock monster and his life mate Bob right right right right right? Why though? What does that have to do with anything? You gotta give credit to the DC movies then because they never ruined Batman Right, you know the most recent Batman's at least the Christian Bale Batman's and the new one, Robert Pattinson. They were still pretty dark in the area. There's no bullshit in them. They fucking murdered that Thor that killed him.

2:20:37And gore, like Christian Bale played gore in that movie. In the comics, that is the fucking best Thor story. Gore's, like, first off, he did nothing like he did on the movie, but he's killing all the other gods. I mean, Thor, his fucking dad, had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy. And none of that really was showed in the movie at all. It was horrible, Love and Thunder. I didn't know you were such a nerd. Oh, for comics. I didn't know. Why didn't they do it like the fucking... Oh, wow. Look at him there. See if you can look in the comic version of Gore because it's not even close to what he turned into.

2:21:17Well, that was shit. That was shit, Love and Thunder. Damn, look at his... Click on that with your cursor's on. What the fuck, man? Yeah, they wrecked he was a perfect guy to play it, but they just ruined the yeah, you can't blame Christian Bell Yeah, they should have done it just by the comic books. You shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up See if it is it's Gore the God butcher. Yeah, that's ruined King Thor just in case you were wondering How many doors the same guy it's just levels oh Explain that uh-oh whoa Damn, he looks good in the movie. That's pretty dope. Probably also just the rendering, because I don't know that they've shown stuff like this.

2:21:57When does the movie come out? Later this year. Dune Day comes out this year, and so does Dune Messiah. It's a good year to be a nerd. Yeah. Well, the nerd movies sell the best, if you think about it. Star Wars. Star Wars. Star Wars. So, like, 100 % guaranteed. Harry Potter. Yeah. The Harry Potter show that they do on HBO. I've read, find out if this is true. Put this into perplexity. our wonderful AI sponsor, if they made, it cost them$100 million each episode. What? The new one that's coming out? This new one, apparently it's so highly produced. It's like they've risked a billion dollars. Oh my God.

2:22:36On this series. It's supposed to be insane. Harry Potter? But it's Harry Potter. I feel like you can't miss with Harry Potter. Except with trans people. There's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a race swap with Snape. Snape he's like a guy that's Hundred million dollars right that's gonna be a rough one man because his backstory is not good It hasn't been confirmed yet several recent reports claim the budget is around a hundred million per episode Jesus Seven plant season eight episodes per season 56 episodes total that per episode figure implies an estimated total production cost of about 5.6 billion dollars.

2:23:14It looks like it's done. Well, I saw the Come in attractions. How are you? You have to. If you're going to do a Harry Potter, you've got to do it to the maximum. I've got to get into Harry Potter because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one. There's one now.

2:23:31Before that, the one character, guess what his name is? I'm not guessing anything. Dean Thomas. Shut the fuck up. I swear to God. Get out of here. I swear to God. Really? I want my royalties for this. I want my royalties. How is it spelled? You got another goddamn job. You definitely not spelled in the same way. It's spelled the real way, but yeah. There it is. There it is. Dean Thomas, my favorite side character. Yep. Not many blacks. Get out of here. The one is Dean Thomas. So why is it controversial? Because they race swapped this guy? Because his backstory was, I think he was in love with Harry's mom, and then they fucking, I think they all beat him up and stuff.

2:24:11It's just not a good look. You know what I mean? Because he plays Black Snape. so you're implying that they beat him up because he's black well I'm not saying that I'm just saying it's not I'm saying to make him like a character that's I don't know why does he look like Meek Mill it could be interesting he looks like Meek Mill if they just follow the books it's going to be amazing I you know I miss the book I was a little bit older than my kids love the Harry Potter you know people adults read the books and shit I think it's the most successful books of all time. Is it? Yeah. I think so. I think it's like right up there with the Bible.

2:24:51Damn. I feel bad for that lady. Find that out. Put that into perfection. She got crucified for just saying - Compare the sales of Harry Potter to the Bible. She stuck their guns, though. She got crucified for being logical and reasonable and telling the truth and trying to protect women and all these fucking people. These actors are still saying she said problematic things. I want to hold them down. Say, tell me what she said that's problematic. Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her. What? There was an article written about this one actor that did it where they said he is More concerned with being on the right side of Hollywood than the right side of history and that's accurate Yeah, because these people all don't want to offend these dorks in Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds enormously commercially commercially what does that mean enormously commercially successful, but the Bible has sold far more copies overall Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies estimated for the Bible's around five to six billion copies How many copies of the Quran have been printed?

2:25:52There's also multiple versions of the Bible and there's seven books of Harry Potter So yeah, there's not seven, you know, right, right, right, right You could break it down. So there's 45 books in the Bible and those are all sold Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible I know but there's also the King James Bible There's the Protestant Bible And there's the Old Testament So by fewer copies Harry Potter book sales are estimated to have generated About 7.7 billion dollars in revenue There's not a Harry Potter in every Hotel room in the country either That's true, that's a good point That's a good point They keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case That's a weird thing, right?

2:26:28Why do they do that? I think someone donated it There was a Bill Hicks joke he did about it Back in the day I forget. There was a name on the Bible. It was a da-da-da Bible. One family donated Bibles to every hotel room. The Gideon Bible? I think that's it. Is that it? Might be. I mean, that's one of the names. The Gideon family. I think that was part of the joke. Who the fuck are the Gideons? I was so depressed when I got here. I brought my MetaQuest, and I realized I brought two right controllers. I'm like, no! I had my headset on. I go, no, no, no! I'm playing a I'm playing a game now a new game what's the game?

2:27:10Jamie get ready for this Forefront 16 on 16 there's tanks there's fucking choppers F-O-R-E front it is forget about part one forget about contractors I know I hyped them up on here before this fucking game is just pure adrenaline okay that's what I just wanted to say I just wanted to get that out. Joe, I'm telling you, you used to like the Quake shit. Yeah, I want to see what it looks like. Show me what it looks like. This forefront is so good. Here it is. This is it. 16 on 16. Yeah, but where's the gameplay? This is the... You have to... I love the sniping. Oh, you give me my behemoth, and I am fucking taking people out.

2:27:54Did you just bring that dude back to life? Yeah, to fucking hit him with a defibrillator. You can have a medic there. But it is so... Look at the tanks. But you're seeing this through your VR. It is so much fun me and my brother-in-law Edwin we go on this motherfucker and we take souls You can get on a bike you could do our for the four-wheeler. They have anti-aircraft their carriers ACPs They have tanks. How do you have a life outside of this? Well, that's the problem That's the problem with these things. I have a house of women, you know They're watching love on the spectrum, and I'm playing this the problem is these are too good they're too fun they can take your whole life away no I got a two hour time limit on I play until my battery dies that's good you know two hours that's all those things last around that hour and a half hey after a day making people more dangerous do my podcast you know I deserve I deserve it no you deserve it I'm just scared I'm scared I watch it I get scared you should we could squat up no no no come on you would get addicted to this no no no Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:28:59It's a real problem. It's a real problem. It's a real problem. Yeah. It was like a crackhead that couldn't get his lighter work into the... I'm like, no! Because that's how I like to kill time here when I'm fucking... I made a decision a long time ago to never bring a gaming setup with me on the road. I'm like, I can't do it. Everywhere he goes. Everywhere he goes. I'll be up until 4 o 'clock in the morning. I'll be like any first person shooter where you're running around a map and there's another dude on the map and you got to get a rocket launcher and fuck him up. It starts to feel real. It feels very real.

2:29:32Me last night and I had to go back. What is this one? Old fashioned. Oh, this is Doom. What does it look like? Oh, my God. It's Doom. It's Doom in VR. Oh, no. This is a problem. I got to find this. But Doom is. I actually think this is the single player of Quake. Yeah. Oh, it is Quake 1. Yeah. Oh, wow. You like the Quake stuff. Love it. But I'm more of a Quake 3 Arena guy. Because Quake 3 Arena, like show them some Quake 3 Arena. They got the graphics down, and then they had it set up where everything was online. So you didn't have to buy the new version of Quake and download it to your computer and run it and play it.

2:30:10No, it's online. So you just log in, and you're playing this, streaming. And it's fucking phenomenal. It's like that now. You just get updates. Show some highlights of gameplay so you can see what it looks like. It's supposed to be the VR version. Here it is. Oh, this is the VR version? Oh, Jesus Christ. Why are you showing me this? Don't show me this. Because I was going to tell you next that the Apple Vision Pro is being updated now so we can play with fire. Fuck, fuck up. Don't do this to me, dude. Don't do this to me. This is my game. This is my game. I fucking love this game. How'd you have a Starlink?

2:30:39Can you just do this on the planet? Shut the fuck up. Oh, you're just kidding. I'm not doing this. Is it a battle royale? You just got to kill everybody? Yeah. The problem is, man, I start doing it, and if I start fucking people up, I can't stop. It's fun, dude. And I got pretty good at it. Not like, you know, I could win tournaments good, but I got pretty good at it. Like, I fucked these guys up. The dudes in the studio I fucked up. Oh, dude, I'll tell you. I would get real addicted to it. Yeah, that's a problem. And then I'd start playing online and just going into rooms. Next thing you know, yep, your life is ruined.

2:31:08Oh, this is one of my favorite maps. You bounce out to this one and everybody can see you, so they're all sniping you when you're trying to come back. When you get the God power. Now you just fucking destroy everyone. All right, you're speaking my language. Yeah, look at this, bro. You got a rail gun, precision movement. Boom, look at that. That's the rail. Look at the rail gun, bro. You got to have super accuracy. Boom. And while you got God power, you just have to hit him once. Boom. Boom. Look at that. Oh, shit. This guy's got timing. This is a dick. This is like, I'm watching people smoke crack, and I'm going, oh, give me that pipe, baby.

2:31:45Give me that pipe. It's so funny. But if that was VR, I would never have a life. I don't have a life. I can't do it. It just helps balance me out. You know what it's like, dude? It's like jujitsu if you never got tired. Yeah, well, that's why you have the battery life on it. That thing gets tired. Imagine jujitsu if you never got tired. You'd just do it all day. If you never got hurt, you never got tired. You'd just be training constantly. Especially if you were fucking people up. Oh, my God. Always winning and tapping people up. Once you got to a certain level, I mean, this is, to me, straight crack.

2:32:16Oh, dude, that looks fun. Come on. How fun is this game? You're swapping weapons instantaneously, and you have certain weapons set to different keys. Like my rail gun is always this middle of the wheel button. I hit that motherfucker. I get the rail gun. And you can adjust the speed of your mouse depending on the weapon. Do you hear the other players? Do they complain when you use a certain weapon? I don't know if they use that with this. I never did. When you chat with Quake, you would have to pull the menu down and chat. If you have a bunch of people talking while you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience.

2:32:47Yeah, sometimes with this, with the forefront. I don't want anybody talking shit. I just want to kill you. They're like, good job. Yeah, good job, Unc. They call me Unc. Good job, Unc. You had to use a shotgun, pussy. I'm trying to be mature. I'm like, you're dead, you little fuck. You're dead. You should use a shotgun, cocksucker. Yeah, they complain when I kill them. They're like, what are you, 30? You're playing a game? I'm like, well, I'm actually 50. Thank you, kid. I'll take 30. What is that? Old guy's on. He's like 30. I'm like, well. It's great. Bro, I remember when I was in high school, I found out Madonna was 26.

2:33:22I was like, oh, she's old. Dude, I remember getting ready for a fight at 35. I was getting ready for Trigg. And I had Gian Vellante there. Now he's older than us now. He's like, dude, how does it feel to be 35? I go, dude, fuck you. I'm still fighting. Fuck you, man. I bring that up to him now. He's like 40 now. I go, I didn't see you caught up to me a little. Yeah, man. It's weird. We're all dying. I know. Think about it. We don't got much time left. I'm 58. What are you, Johnny? 57. You guys could have worked at high school together. I'm 51. Young man! I'm still only 49. You're full of shit.

2:34:00I'm 49. Keeping it together. I like it. I thought you would be like a Brazilian. Rodrigo Gracie used to lie about his fucking age like a chick. Dude, you're my age. What does he say? Fucking 29 still. What are you talking about? No one knows how old Yoel is. Oh, yeah. He's probably older. I know. Might be older. It does feel weird when you say 51. Like, when I say 51, I'm like, oh, 50s. When you're younger, you never really picture you'll be that age. Yeah, me too. I'm almost 60. I mean, when we were growing up, though, 60 was broken down. Yeah, that's a big difference. Shout out to Ways to Well.

2:34:33Yeah, right? Life med for me at home. Ways to Well. Do you hang out with younger guys? Because I hang out with all young people. In the gym, you're with younger people all the time. I'm always with younger comics, unless it's Ron White. It's those worlds. And I bet you, when you hang out with Ron White, it doesn't feel like you're hanging out with an old man. No, no. It's like me and Longo. That guy's awesome. He's a gem. Longo's 67. He'll just say, he'll throw away something. It'll just be so funny. We'll all be dying laughing. He's a naturally funny dude and just a sweetheart of a guy. He was good in tires also.

2:35:06Oh, he's great. I like that show. Yeah, well, you know, he's homies with Shane. Shane's always there, too. But again, young people that are doing the thing we all love to do, having fun. Just like a jujitsu gym. Just like anything else. I mean, this idea that you have to one day grow up, that's not true. I'm here to tell you it's not true. You should grow up in some ways, like be a good dad, take care of your taxes, that kind of stuff. What are you looking at, man? After that, shut up. Shut up. Have fun. Oh, that's me in a fucking nutshell. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games.

2:35:39Just don't tell those kids how old you are

2:35:4630 I'm like you little fuck yeah, but it's done. No don't have a heart attack for real You have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experience

2:36:09You don't outgrow that. So you actually squat physically and it does it? Maybe. My wife's like, what are you doing? I'm like, he deserves it, honey. Crazy. That's crazy. That's different than a video control. You're actually squatting. That's crazy. I can get my squats in, man. Have you seen those multi-directional treadmills that people are doing those games on now? Yeah, but I'm not running. My knees aren't good for that. So there's a treadmill, like a circle, and it goes in any direction. Omni-directional, I think they call it. And you're strapped in with a harness that keeps you from running.

2:36:42And you just move. You move like you're running. You would be in insane shape. There would be some people in better shape. Oh, you would think how good that would be for your footwork? Like, if you could have a VR, there's a good VR boxing game. And one of the things that I noticed when I was playing it was my feet were hurting. Because I was doing it on concrete, on cement, and I was wearing like Converse All-Stars. And you just push it off your feet all the time. I was like, oh my God, I'm getting a footwork out. This is crazy. Like, it was gassing me out. Because you really see the guy, and he pops you, everything goes white.

2:37:14Like, you got stunned. Like, boom. Oh, shit. And you're going to get him back, right? And you're moving. You're moving around stuff. There's a bunch of them. I got to get into those. They're tiring. That's tiring. I did that before. The only thing that's stupid is when you hold the gloves, like, if you hold the hand things like this, it shows the gloves like this. So when you're punching, it looks like you're punching them wrong. So it fucks your head up. Yeah. You know what I mean? So when you're twisting to punch, it's showing this and it fucks your head up. It's giving a fucking wing chung punch.

2:37:44So like if you punch like this, it'll look like the knuckles are coming up. But you're doing this. Oh, yeah. Then you figure, how can't they get that piece right? They should get that right. It should be where your hands are positioned. Exactly. So if you hold it like that, it should be the gloves are like that. And then you turn it like that. And it looks. So that way it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing. Because it's weird. Clearly the developers weren't boxers. Get that program. Yes, and fix that. But I think there's some real benefit in it. For real, because first of all, it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing, right?

2:38:11So you get a little workout doing that. The things don't weigh much, but you can always put like a little wrist weight or something. Or someone can make a controller that has lead in it that has a couple of pounds for each one. You would get good endurance doing it. And you're doing a lot of footwork drills. It's like you're Lomachenko in these guys. You're moving around them. I mean, it's definitely physically good for you. And it's also showing you how to move away from things and counter. There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply to it's better than real shadow boxing Yeah, it's like it's like yeah intense extreme shadow.

2:38:43Yes. Yes It's like you're really visualizing because there's an actual thing in front of you I think there's benefit to it. I think it would help you. I mean a hundred percent. I think there'd be benefit Yeah, and you're not getting hit right so it's timing work getting the CTE right You're getting on it's not it's gonna replace sparring You're always gonna need to spar but it'll give you a lot of like neural pathways to different movements That you'll you'll have like programmed in you in a fight with zero consequences, right? That's great. Yeah You can't do a jiu-jitsu unfortunately, but you probably could with a robot one day, right?

2:39:18You get a good AI robot You know that's not gonna spaz out on you I would never trust that right I just got mad at you I'm going to show you my real strength. Dean, in this next role, I'm not going to go easy on you. What? What do you mean? I'm watching. You know what? Put your eyes out. You got me into this. Rips your fucking heel hook. Only because they look human, the Cyclones. I'm watching the Battlestar Galactica. I started watching it. It's great. It's really good. It's really fucking good. What is that on? I'm almost on with the first season. It was on the sci-fi network years ago. It was an unappreciated series.

2:39:57It's one of the greatest sci-fi series of all time. The reboot of Battlestar Galactica. And I was super skeptical. Because Battlestar Galactica, when I was a kid, I loved it. It was super campy. It was a very campy. And then all of a sudden, Skywalker was a girl now. I was like, what? Starbuck. Starbuck. Starbuck was a girl now. Katie's amazing. She's great now. That fucking series rules, dude. It's complex. It's complex. Great writing. I'm on the first season I'm almost done with it now I got like an episode left way better than the original series It's really it's really fucking it's phenomenal.

2:40:30It's really good and the Cylons scare the fuck out of you and they're hot hot chicks Yeah, it's ruining your life. Oh my favorite good. Yeah, everybody's favorite It's great. It's a great fucking series John James Elmos or whatever James Elmos. Yeah, he was great. Is he alive? Did he die?

2:40:51I There's no way he's arrested. Edward James almost. He was great in that. He was great in that. Mexican prison movie. Remember that? Yeah, what was that? Blood in, blood out. Blood in, blood out. He got in trouble with that. They wanted to kill him because they made it out like these dudes were fucking each other in jail. Oh, they're not? Even if they are. Don't talk about it. Snitches get stitches. Yeah, man. I think people died because of that movie. No. Yeah, I think people were killed. I heard something about that. but it makes you not want to go to jail. Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were going to portray him in jail.

2:41:29And I think, you know, they weren't happy about that. Severe disrespect. Is he alive, Edward James Olmos? Yes. Yes. Oh, good for him. 79. He's phenomenal on that show. Phenomenal on that show. Yeah. It's a great show. Yeah, yeah. I think I heard you talking about it, and I put it in. I got it on Amazon Prime. I bought the first season. It's fucking good. There's another Amazon series. What's it called? Not The Eclipse. The Expanse. Yes, yes. That's supposed to be phenomenal. I watched a bunch of those. I got to get back into that. Sometimes it gets a little chatty. I watched a couple of them. I was like, I see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it.

2:42:07It's good. I keep hearing. I keep hearing. I hear once you get past the first few episodes, it really picks up. Yeah, it's good. It has Thomas Jane. What's Thomas Jane? He played the Punisher. Yeah, he's in that, at least the first season. It's good. The lead guy reminds me of Jon Snow. Have you seen that? He looks like a skinnier Jon Snow. Jon Bernthal played the Punisher, right? Yeah, there was a bunch of people who played him. How many people played the Punisher? Well, I mean, the guy from Rome, didn't Dolph Lundgren do it one point time? Yeah, that's back in the day. Did he? Dolph Lundgren did?

2:42:42Yeah, they gave him fake stubble, and it was obvious. It was literally like the makeup lady didn't even try. It's like the worst looking face double you've ever seen in your fucking life. See if you can find that. Dolph Lundgren face double from The Punisher. It's like you're looking at that and going, just leave him unshaven. Yeah, he was cool as him. There's a guy from Rone Stevenson. I know, but you can't see it in there. Like a photo from the actual movie, it looked like, why does he have smudges all over his cheeks? Yeah, I like Barenthal the best. The new Spider-Man movie, he's going to be in it, The Punisher.

2:43:20The Punisher's supposed to be gigantic, though. He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper. I thought Ray Sanderson. Adam Richman. He's supposed to be like Adam Richman. That's what The Punisher's supposed to be. He's supposed to be a giant jack dude who kills everybody. And good for Reacher for smacking that guy around. That guy deserved it. He looks like he's riding with his kids. The guy got in his face, made him drop his bike, got in his face again. He deserved to smack it, too. He pushed him off his bike. Yeah. What the hell? That guy looked like a retard. Well, he said he was drunk, so the guy smelled like booze.

2:43:52I know shit. Smack him up. He was asking. They showed the cops version of the video when they went to his house. He's like, could you run a toxicology on that guy? Because I think he's drunk. He smelled like liquor. The guy tried to knock him off. You see that guy? What are you doing? Why are you pushing that guy? He's real lucky he had that camera on. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. 100%. Because if you only got to see him beating that guy up, that would have been a real fucking problem. Because that guy denied it. But he had a camera going on his chest back. Yep. Luckily. Yeah. You see that guy grabbing the bike and pushing him.

2:44:21Yeah. I put hands on him first. In front of kids, man. So many people out there. If you're on a bike and you fall and the bike falls on your legs, you fucking idiot. Yeah. That's dangerous. You break someone's fucking leg that way, you drunk fuck. 100 % warranted. When I went to go see that Project Hail Mary the other day, dude, these motherfuckers, I got the second row. And sure enough, the first row, like five teenagers do. They don't even, they have their phone and it's bright. And you see it. Like they don't give a fuck. The lady, there's a couple next to me, older. The lady comes out. She takes her thing out.

2:44:59I'm like, what? I feel like saying, you should know better, lady. What the fuck? And the kids, I want to, a couple times I got up and then they put it down. I'm like, I know I'm going to say something. And if I get the wrong response, am I going to smack a 15-year-old? Am I going to smack? If I get, hey, fuck you, guy. What's going to happen? Because I'm not totally normal. I mean, you know what I mean? I just don't want to. Because this right and this wrong. A whole generation has not been checked. They're going to get smacked because they're malady. A thousand percent. And I just see UFC fighter smacks 15-year-old.

2:45:38I just see that happening. But anyway, I got out of there without nothing. but it's just so annoying. These kids are so addicted to their phones. They can't put them down for five seconds. And movies too. It's crazy. In movie theater they can't stop texting people. They're not enjoying anything. Everything they're doing they're getting distracted. Yeah. Which is crazy. I feel like talking to their parents. That's not going to help. You know? No. No, you got to smack them. Someone's got to smack them. Yeah. Man, I'll tell you. That happened. Our generation if you acted a fool you got slapped. Yeah, if you talk mouth in a movie theater someone's going to get up.

2:46:12You know, if you were loud in a movie theater, people would get up and, hey, shut the fuck up. Like, I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters. People almost get in fights. They don't do that no more. There's no repercussions, I think, a whole... What did Mike Tyson say? What did he say? He said something like, a lot of people are getting used to talking shit without getting smacked. Until you get punched in the face. Something like that, yeah. And it's just true. Like, people just don't worry about anything, you know? But there's also so many streamers that are doing these things online where they're provoking people on purpose that it's almost like normalizing fucking.

2:46:45I hate that. Yeah. I like when they get smacked. Yeah. They think it's like they're creating content by harassing these people, fucking with old people, like just walking up to people in the store and doing shit to them. I don't know. I don't understand it. Tiki elbowed that kid in the face. Oh, yeah. You know what? Fuck that kid. He's starting shit with everybody. I was happy to see Tiki fucking crack. I mean, I looked at that. I'm like, that's warranted. You're in my face. Tell me you're gonna fuck me up. I could do this He said he's gonna fuck him up and then he got close to him like he's gonna bump into him.

2:47:14Yeah, well, I mean You know what? They don't even give a shit cuz they get clicks I don't think they give a shit Well, that's because that's because like they're getting hit by like regular people well except for the tiki case But they're getting about regular people like I'm I'm waiting for the opportunity to ladies put five on somebody's chin. They'll be the first to put somebody out. They'll press charges. They'll sue you. Also, if you knock somebody out and they fall and hit their head and die, that's a fucking problem. Yeah, that'd be a problem. And that's a real possibility. Strangle them and lay them down.

2:47:47That liver shot. Right, but you know you're not going to throw a body shot. These dummies got in a fight with the former UFC heavyweight champion and the current bare-knuckle boxing champion in the world. You dumbasses. That was hilarious when I saw this. Look, he's just teeing off on dudes. Imagine you get in Andre Arlovsky's face. How the fuck do you not know who he is, first of all? Again, my point is exactly. How do you not know who Andre Arlovsky is? And then they got their bodyguards next to them to try to - Shout out to that dude. Wins bare knuckle boxing. Oh, Arlovsky's a stud. Yeah. No kidding.

2:48:18He's still getting after it, and he still seems to enjoy it. Like, almost 30 years in the game. And he's the guy that you kind of wrote off his chin a while ago, and then all of a sudden it's like, I never saw a chin make a comeback. Oh, incredible comeback. Freddie Roach said he thought he could really be a contender if he just had a proper chin. He said his boxing skills were there. Well, I mean, there were so many times where he got clipped. Like the Fedor one was the wildest. He was winning that fight. Yeah, he was. Dude, he was good. Yeah, he was good. He got caught in the middle of a jumping knee.

2:48:48Oh, just a big mistake. Laces out moment right there. Fedor, that motherfucker just found ways to win. he just found ways to win, man. Sure did. Remember when Randleman was at Randleman? He still beat him. Then he kimured him. It ain't easy to kimure a gorilla. You know what I'm saying? Randleman was so explosive. He was so fast. That guy was just nothing but fast twitch muscle fiber. Pre-usada 100. He had the worst staff I've ever seen in my life. He had holes in his armpit. He lifted his armpit up and you could see The skin was gone you can see the tendons and all the ligaments. See if you can find it Jamie It's the craziest thing cuz staph if you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic I mean it probably led to his early demise It probably was something that led to him dying early rest in peace.

2:49:41Look at that. That's his arm That's his armpit dude. I mean fucking wallet in there. You know how crazy that is? You know crazy that kind of hole is what that does to your body? God damn. Because it's not, even when that heals up, like, it's going to take a long time before your body gets back to normal. Oof, man. Staff's scary, man. Staff's real scary. Oh, come on, man. I want to say... We're going to Italian later. I want to say... Yeah. Pete Spratt fought a fight when he... Didn't he fight one? He got bit by a brown recluse. Like, his leg had a fucking hole in it. Well, those are scary. Those fuckers.

2:50:15Damn. They necrotize you. Like, their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue. Oh, it's horrible. You ever see brown recluse spider bites? No. It's like first just swells up and you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom. Fucking spiders. Yeah, you got to get that treated right away. And even then, it's like really dangerous. People die from it. Brown recluse are scary fucking spiders. See if you can find brown recluse spider injury. Nasty, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Creepy little fucking bugs out there. I'm gonna get the eggplant rollatini later. We'll see what else we have.

2:50:55I just want to show you one more gross thing. Then we can move on. Dang it. Look at that shit, man. Come on, man. Was that a water balloon? Burns a hole in you. Where do those things live at? I don't want to get bit by that. Texas. They're all over the place. We're so lucky they're little. Oh you got that shit out here those things Imagine that was as big as a bear Take over the planet Imagine a praying man it's as big as a bear Dude in Lord Island I guess We just got some assholes out there but we don't gotta worry about Fucking

2:51:33Things getting Flesh off and shit It's a few serial killers Yeah a few serial killers Guys wearing life beaders that's it I was just watching this video where they said The most popular job for serial killer is those long range truckers makes sense yeah I mean you got I mean you're on the road got a lot of access to a lot of different people yeah and also you think keep it moving yeah moving moving yeah before they even know what happened you're gone yeah there's a bunch of them that are linked to potentially to long-range truckers that they never solved really yeah they don't catch a lot of those guys that's what's fucked up you want to think like that life's like a movie where When they catch them all, they don't catch them a lot.

2:52:16But random killers are some of the hardest to catch because they just show up, kill somebody, leave. And there's no rhyme or reason to it. They just wanted to kill somebody. So there's no motive. It's hard to tell. And if they've done it and not gotten caught for a few years, if they're clever. Like a lot of these guys, like the Zodiac Killer, he was brilliant. He wrote things in code. I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it. They still don't know who the fuck it was. They did that movie. Yeah, I saw that movie, right? Yeah. They kind of made it like it was the janitor guy. I don't think they know.

2:52:46I mean, unless there's some new data, unless there's some new information, I think it's an unsolved mystery. But he was obviously brilliant. So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people, and he's also taunting you with letters, leaving letters behind. It's got to be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit. What has Sean Dunn ever been up to? Does he have an alibi? Does he have an alibi for Geo Beach? Was he in New York at that time? The Dark Lord. Trying out new techniques. That's fucking great. Alright, boys. Should we wrap this up? Man. Good times. One more thing we should probably talk about.

2:53:26The White House card. Ooh. Yeah. You going? Yeah. Unless things get crazy. Between now and then. But the idea of them fighting outside in Washington, D.C. in the middle of summer. Nice humidity and heat. crazy to me. You ask someone to dehydrate themselves, to cut weight, you know, I mean, think about Gaethje. Gaethje's gonna cut. He's gotta cut to get to 55. Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much. But you're fighting for the world title. And you're fighting outside. That's... The noon time has now been corrected, which makes more sense. We get good weather. So the pay-per-view or the main card starts at 8pm Eastern.

2:54:08I was in the middle. I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that. That's a little better. But also, it can rain. It could easily rain. There's going to be bugs. Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes while you're mounting a guy. You hear him and you hear him. Will they put a tent up over the... I don't know what they're going to do. Back in the day, they'd have King of Cage. It was raining out and shit. It was called Wet and Wild or something. It's a mess. Fights outside are a mess. It's a mess. It's a terrible idea. I hate it. There was a couple of inches of rain in that cage. That was a crazy show. If you're fighting in an elite world championship level, you should be fighting in a controlled environment.

2:54:46Period. Right. It's already a problem enough to fight, to deal with the air. Yeah, why callers the extra factors. Yeah, all these different variables. You might not get the best fighter. Right. And it also might severely impair someone who's gone through a big weight cut. If it's really hot out, I don't know what it's going to be like, but we looked it up. Wasn't it last year at that same date? I think that was 2020, I guess, four, but still. It was what? It was like 100 degrees. 100 degrees. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dude, I live in Baltimore. Yeah, it's like 69%. It'll be hot and humid. Everybody's dealing with the same thing, though, so it's not like somebody's got something different to deal with.

2:55:23Right, but it's not fair. Because people deal with them differently. If you're having world championship fights where you're going to decide who's the best in the world, it should be in a controlled environment. Yeah. You know? The White House, baby. It's still the fuck. We were not legal in New York when I was fighting. and now we're at the fucking White House. It's crazy. That is wild. I support all crazy things. I'm going too, so. Yeah, well, you have to. Yeah, I just, yeah. You have to. It's your job. It's my job too. Yeah, I just got the call for clearance. I'm going, so. Nice. I'll be watching on Paramount Plus.

2:56:00Yeah. Jimmy wanted to go. He's like, can we go? I'm like, oh. I'm like, how many people are going to be outside in the audience? That's the question. I don't know. Like how many people are gonna is it gonna be around thing? Well, apparently I think on Don't Saturday's broadcast are gonna announce like how it's gonna look so like that's part of the I think part of the allure for Watching Saturday shows they're gonna announce how it's supposed to look It's exciting though. You gotta say fuck it. It's crazy. It's definitely crazy. I mean it's only this president do it Yeah Yeah. This card you're saying?

2:56:37Yeah, Saturday is a pretty good card. Saturday is a very good card. I'm telling you, the Mirza Konov and Paulo Costa one is the one I got my eye on. That could be very interesting. It would be very interesting. Because Paulo is a big fucking middleweight. It might do him good later in his career to go up to light heavyweight. I think so. And Mirza Konov is not a big white heavyweight. No, he's not. He's only 5 '10". Yeah, he's short. Yeah. Oh, he's got weight to cut, too. I mean, he's not exactly... He ain't Paulo. No, no, no. Not even close. He definitely carries much more body fat on him. Who has he fought that's close?

2:57:08Has he fought anybody? Rockage. Stopped Rockage in the first round of his last fight. That's it. But he hasn't. It's been hard for him to get fights. They made Dana a little taller there. Yeah, but they put lightning in this. The only thing he said would stop the fight. Yeah, well, that could be it. Yeah, that would suck. Imagine if someone died from getting hit by lightning. They raised their hand up at the end of the fight and they get hit by lightning. That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I think. I just don't. Bruce Buffer gets it. I like the idea on paper, but the fact that I'm going to be there.

2:57:43Sequin check and attract the lightning. Christ, this is going to be crazy. People are probably going to protest it. It's going to be nuts. Yeah. There's going to be a lot of protesters out there. For sure. All this stuff in the world going on might be the wrong place to come and protest because it's going to be a lot of pro-Trump people in that audience. It could be a mess. Well, that's what they like. You know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fights and chaos. That's a fact. They like rioting and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to.

2:58:15I just want to see some good fights. Cyril Ghosn and Pereira is a very good fight. Yeah, it's an interesting fight. Very interesting fight. Just because of Gunn poking everybody in their eyes, I'd be happy to see him lose. But, I mean, the size is real, and he's got legit skills. Legit skills. That tie to Evasa fight, remember those combinations he was hitting tie with? Acting skills also. KO on Netflix. Setting up the South Lawn will begin one month out compared to a few days out in Normal Arena. Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to assign to who they want. 84 from each will be chosen for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights.

2:58:53Most of the rest of the tickets will go to military personnel. The event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card. Wow. And then more to come Saturday. More to come Saturday. So there'll probably be an announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about. Should be interesting. And nobody's giving Justin a chance here. Justin's a fucking animal, dude. I mean, he's... I love AJ. And look how technical he fought when he had to fight Fazeev. Fazeev, yeah. And he's a very technical fighter. Yeah, if you go by the way he fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down. It's just like, I'm going to create chaos.

2:59:25But you also got to kind of give Patty a little break where he did get poked in the fucking eye early. True. Did he get more ones? I mean, I think, too, Gagey fought with staff. Did he? Pretty much everybody thought so. Or that thing on his neck? Yeah. He said it wasn't. He said it was an ingrown air. I mean, he can say, you know, he's not going to tell everybody he's got staff before the fight. He could say it after the fight. He looked good, though. You know? He's a fucking animal, dude. And the only reason I think that is he don't really get tired, and he seemed like he's mentally so tough he just pushed through the tired, but you could see he was fatigued at the end of that fight.

2:59:59Well, he's a complicated riddle on the feet, too. He's a good stand-up fighter, man. I mean, when he knocked out Dustin with that head kick, he's fucking good. I'm a Gagey fan. He can crack. Love to see him do it. In the early days, man, he was one of the wildest guys to watch ever. That Michael Johnson fight was mad. Just madness. It was a pretty crazy one. He just goes, let's jump off the cliff together. They did a Thelma and Louise there. I mean, that's what he does in those fights, man. He was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close distances. So close. Yeah.

3:00:35He got away from that. I wonder why he got away from that. Could be injured shins. Could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands. Just wanted to do that more. I mean, I thought that was one of his greatest weapons is being able so close to just dig in. Like a weird flexibility of the hips to be able to do that and generate power from in close. The right hand or the kick? The kick. The kick. The kick. Yeah, the kick he does is so close. He'll do it in a collar tie and kick you. And kick you. Nuts. And with power. Yeah. Definitely has a chance. I mean, you know, I mean, people will just kind of not even give it him a shot.

3:01:11I'm like, why not? Because that's how good Ilya is. Yeah, no, I get it. He gets hit a lot, and they're just putting the equation together. He's like, Ilya, man. Ilya's got that one punch ability. It's ferocious. And look at the guys he's done it to. You know, Volkanovski, Charles, Max. In a row. In a row. Ryan Hall. Three KOs in a row against world champions. That's crazy. Guys who are not used to getting put in. Not like that. Not like that. But, you know, think about how durable Charles is. For him, just one shot like that, take him out, that's crazy. That's crazy. For Max. I mean, Max did well in the first round.

3:01:50He did. But until he got hit. Until he got hit. And he had never been knocked out. He's a different dude. You know, there's levels that this game achieves as people get better and better and better and watch everyone around them. And Ilya is like, this is the next highest level. You know? Now everybody's shooting for that. Boys, a lot of fun. Good times. We did it again. I love when we do this. It's so fun. This is one of my favorite podcasts. Oh, man. I love coming out here. Such a good time. And also, I need to find out what's going on in the nerd world. If you want to find out what's going on in the nerd world, Matt Serra channel on YouTube.

3:02:24I talk all about that geek shit. That's it. Sometimes I play VR, and I do movie reactions, where it's like the Mystery Science Theater, where I talk to the screen. Talk shit. Yeah. I talk during a movie a lot. Dean, what do you got going on? My movie, Flowers, short film coming out, And I got a new show on Paramount Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge Masvidal, Chris Weidman, and Dustin Poirier. That starts next Monday, every Monday. I like the name. I like the name. It's awesome. Deep Waters coming out. And we're still doing ground control. Just opened a school in Sykesville. Dustin Poirier's actually coming out to there in the spot next door to Estratosphere on May 16th.

3:03:05Shogun still going. So GroundControlUSA.com, ShogunFights.com, and at BeMoreMMA. Look at you, bro. Promoter, coach, gym owner. Hustling, hustling. Hustling. All right. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Always fun. Bye, everybody. Good times, guys.