JRE MMA Show #180 with Daniel Rodriguez

45:48And I was just in my head about it for a little bit. And then, you know, like, I was like, nah, you know, I'm a fucking soldier, dude. I could bounce back from this. And, you know, I just really believed that through hard work, you know, I'll get back to my old self. And now I feel great, dude. How long did it take before you started feeling normal? About, I'm barely starting to feel like 100 % now. Now? Yeah. And when did you get out? um it's been almost two months wow that's not a lot of time yeah and when is this uh the fight is august 1st yeah it's another not two months yeah that's good yeah and i feel i feel good now that's crazy though it takes you two months and then now you're back you look normal like physically yeah you look healthy so it took you that time to just put the weight back on and get your muscle tone back and all that yeah that's a good thing though that you were always in shape so you bounce back quicker you have muscle memory yeah and actually i've honestly been enjoying the process this whole process of of like when i first got out i could only run like a mile and i was dying bro and through through each run i could see my progress i'm like okay i'm getting better okay i'm getting better and like i'm in love with it right now i'm in love with like getting better and better and better one percent every single day you know i truly believe believed that through the work and and to trust the work that I have ahead of me and I honestly think that By the time the fight gets here.

47:26I'm gonna be in perfect peak shape. That's awesome. Yeah, what a crazy comeback story Yeah, you know, yeah, and then it's it's really just like a Really deep personal one for me because from what? Where when I when I first got out to now it's just like it's it's crazy it's crazy how the body can bounce back and just get back into shape. Well, it's crazy, the mind, too. I mean, you must be so thankful. Just every time you're training, yeah, you might be tired, but, man, you must be so thankful that you're out and free and then you're working towards something big. You know, you've got a big fight coming up, and what a blessing.

48:08Yeah, man, and I'm just embracing the whole process, you know, and I'm just, you know, I'm all for it. I'm all in. And actually going to jail and going through all that actually made me appreciate and value everything that I have going on right now. So I'm just like so grateful and so thankful that I even have this opportunity. And I just signed a new contract with the UFC, six more fights. Nice. And now I'm main event. It's just crazy, dude. Dude, if you go on to win the title for me, how crazy would that be? Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That would be crazy. Who knows, bro? You beat Medich.

48:48You're in the top 13. You're close to the top 10. A few fights later. Anything can happen in this sport. Yeah, and I would even tell dudes like that. Like, realistically, bro, like, I can, like, in four or five fights, go, like, four or five fights I could be fighting for the championship, you know? Maybe even less. In this sport, it all it takes is a few spectacular results. A few spectacular results, and people get behind you, and the crowd gets behind you, and next thing you know. Yeah, I mean, if I go out there and smoke this guy, and it's going to be so much even bigger just because of the whole experience that I went through.

49:23And like, man, he got out of jail and just fucking knocked this dude out. And, you know, why not? Like, why not, bro? You know, why can't I be that guy? You hear stories all the time of these incredible stories of people that become champions from nothing and been through all kinds of stuff. Like, why not me, bro? Listen, you never fucking know. You never fucking know. That's the crazy thing about this sport. Yeah. Anything can happen, dude. Yeah. I mean, you got Makachev as the title holder, which is, you know, one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it. That's part of the problem. Yeah. He's got the opposite life.

50:01That's a guy that's been disciplined in training his entire life. You know, he's never, never fucked around. No drugs, no drinking, no nothing. Just discipline. Yeah. It's a tough sell. It's different levels, man. Yeah. There's different levels to it. How old are you now? 39. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like... So I got like a couple more years left, man. I know. It's crazy why they stole eight months of like very valuable time. Yeah. And that's one thing. That's one, the number one thing that I was like, man, like I'm running out of time, bro. You know, I don't got a lot of time left, you know. So getting out, and like I said, I'm just taking it a lot more serious, you know?

50:49I'm sure. Where are you training now? So right now I'm in Vegas training over at the PI. That's great. At Extreme Couture and right now in freestyle MMA. While I'm in Vegas and while I'm in California, I go to a classic fight team. training over at Tenori and 10 Planet. You know, so I'm just, but right now, I'm in Vegas right now. It's so much easier. L.A.'s crazy, dude. I'm on the road. When I'm in L.A., it's just, I'm on the road all fucking days. L.A. traffic is just a nightmare. So that's why, like, I'm in Vegas right now because everything's so close together and so convenient. That's also so high level.

51:34There's so much high-level training in Vegas. And the PI is an amazing resource for fighters. You know, as far as nutrition, cutting weight, I mean, they'll get your meals for you. They get your supplements for you. They make sure that everything is, you know, safe for sport approved so you don't have to worry about testing positive for anything. Like, the PI is amazing. Yeah. Such an incredible resource. Yeah, right now it's a little bit crazy because they're letting, like, the slap fight guys go there and the Zufa boxing guys, I think. Yeah. So, yeah, those guys are using. The slap fight guys train?

52:12I don't know how they train. Like, how do you train for that, bro, you know? They do neck workouts. I don't know. I guess that's it. Yeah. Right? Swinging things with your arms. Yeah. You know? I guess, like, cable machines. Like you know I'm saying like get a cable your wrist and do this a bunch of times Yeah, so they have at the PI they have like this It's thing that gauges your um your power. Yeah strike and Those day you do that they use that all the time the power slap guys do oh that's so silly Yeah, and and then also the Zufa boxing guys are there too, so so it's a little it's a little bit hectic right now It's like a lot going on yeah, I could imagine yeah Power slap guys.

52:54That's a different thing I've never been to one of those. I haven't either. I hear you have to go to one to enjoy it. You have to be on acid. Yeah. To me, it's like, I don't know, man. I feel like letting someone just swing on you. And the thing is, if you get the first swing, you have a giant advantage. Yeah. The first swing is a crazy advantage. That's dangerous, bro. That's just getting whacked. Some of these guys, they get knocked out. Oh, 100%, man. It's not less powerful than a punch. This is the idea that you're slapping like this. That's not what they're hitting with the palm of the hand.

53:35Right on your fucking jaw. It's super powerful. You can only take so many of those in your whole life. You're lining up for those. Yeah, and you can imagine their nerve damage on your face, too. Well, I mean, look, I'm for whatever you want to do. You want to jump BMX bikes. You want to ride bulls? You want to power slap? Have at it. This is America. Have a good time. Yeah. But it seems like at an MMA gym, it should be MMA fighters. I mean, the boxing is probably a good crossover. Like, you could probably get some good work with some of those guys. Yeah. And also, seeing high-level boxer train is good.

54:11It's great for your technique. It's great for just raising the level up in the gym. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's really dope. I love the PI, man. and Vegas in general, like there's so many killers out there, you know. It's one of the best places in the world for MMA training. You got Extreme Couture. Think of how many killers are training out of there. You know, you got, there's so many. You got Syndicate. There's so many places, man. Yeah. It's incredible. So much jiu-jitsu. Robert Drysdale's there. There's so many guys that are there. Tenth Planet there. There's so much jiu-jitsu there. There's so much MMA there.

54:48I mean if you're a fighter it's like one of the best places to live yeah I remember when I first when I first went out there I was in about 2020 uh I went out I was I was on Cowboys camp and uh he went out there and and that's when I saw firsthand all the all the the amenities from the PI and like all the the whole Vegas experience and so I decided to move out there So I lived out there for like two years, and I've just been going back and forth ever since. It's worth living there just for the PI. Yeah. You know, and then there's so much Muay Thai there. There's so much everything. There's so much great training there.

55:28Yeah, yeah. There's a ton of gyms, like you said, man. Yeah, there might not be another city in the country that's like Vegas in that regard. Yeah. Think about boxing. You've got Floyd Mayweather's gyms there, which is crazy, right? There's a bunch of other gyms there. You've got high-level boxers there. You got high-level Muay Thai guys there. You know, One Kick Nick has his place there. There's so much high-level training in Vegas. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Summer is great, isn't it? It's the perfect season for adventures, but it can also be pretty exhausting juggling chaotic schedules and trying to make the most of summer.

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56:55Oh, yeah. Yeah, Anthony and Chidi. They have their own gym? Yeah. Okay. They were with one kick Nick, right? Yeah. Yeah. Fucking crazy town. Yeah, man. For training. And again, I can't say enough. Like every time when I've been to the P.I. a bunch of times, but when I first went there before they were really open, when they were really getting rolling, I was like, this is incredible. Like if you're a fighter, you have a place that has all the recovery stuff, all the like the high end top notch recovery stuff, cold plunge saunas, all the everything, like all physical therapy supplements. They when I found out they make food for you, I was like, this is crazy.

57:34Yeah, I love that part. I'm always I'm always there, you know, you could go there order whatever you want, you know, and sure Steak and steak and rice, you know. Yeah. Well, they just want you to be healthy, which is makes sense Just it's so smart that they did that when they did that I was like What are they doing dumping all this money in that who's gonna go there? And then when I went there was like, oh, I get it. They went all out They went all out and it's just if you want your fighters to be at the very best to compete in the UFC what better way than provide the best world-class facility on earth and then to put it right there in Vegas.

58:09And now they have a bunch of them, right? They have one in Mexico. I think they have one in Singapore. They have a bunch of them. It's awesome. So smart. Such a smart move to do. You know what would have been crazy? If you were on the White House card. If you got really... Dude, that's going to be major, dude. That's crazy. It's going to be major. I wish it was inside, but it is going to be crazy. It's so funny watching people lose their mind over it. You know, in all sorts of different ways. Lose their mind over it because they hate the political situation in this country. Lose their mind over it because they feel like it's a waste of money.

58:43Why are they spending so much money? This country's in debt. We've got problems. Why are we having a fight? And then other people are like fuck yeah You know I mean there's no more American thing than having a UFC fight on the White House lawn It's so America. It's so it's so Trump. It's so crazy. You know UFC fight on the White House lawn is bananas. Yeah, man, even The fight card is amazing as well. Oh fight cards incredible. The only thing that bothers me is that it's outside that these guys are fighting for world titles. I mean, Ilya Teporia might be, he's not just one of the best right now, he might be one of the best that ever did it.

59:24It's very possible that he goes down in history as the all-timer. I mean, he's so good. And for him to have to defend his title, the world title outside with bugs and humidity and heat. Yeah, you got to take into account the weather. It's a whole different environment. It could rain. It could thunderstorm. Who fucking knows? It's D.C. It's the East Coast in the middle of the summer. I mean, it's crazy to have a fight outside in June in D.C. Yeah, I've fought outside before. It's definitely a different vibe, different energy. Where'd you fight outside? I fought outside for Combate Americas. It was somewhere in Arizona, and it was a nighttime fight.

1:00:08That's Camel McLaren's organization, right? Yeah. Love that dude. I've also fought in the summer, in the daytime, and I had a fair once. Oh, my God. Yeah. In California? In California. What was the temperature? It was hot as hell, dude. The mat was hot as hell. It was like at a fair in the middle of the summer. Oh, that sucks. The mat's hot. Yeah. I didn't even think of that. Yeah, dude. Was it canvas or was it like mat? I think it was mat. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, it wasn't canvas. So not just that, but it gets slippery as fuck, too, then. yeah dude it was hot as hell bro did you ever see king of the cage wet and wild you ever see that no king of the cage put on a fight in the middle of a rainstorm and just let people fight just like i think they just said look you know if you want to fight you get paid this is it it's gonna rain out and we're gonna have to fight because it was outside yeah so this is back when california did not have mma it was illegal but it was legal on indian reservations.

1:01:09So we would go to these Indian reservations for King of the Cage. So back when Eddie, I think Eddie was the commentator at that event. I'm not sure, but he was one of the main commentators at King of the Cage. And my friend Bud, who's my neighbor back in California, I actually sold him my old house, real good friend of mine. He was one of the owners of King of the Cage. And they were just putting on these events in fucking these Indian reservations when it was totally illegal in California. So we would just drive to the Indian reservations and watch and one of them, it poured. I mean, it was outside.

1:01:42The whole thing was outside. They just set up a cage outside and it's fucking pouring, dude. And these guys are slipping all over the place and it's crazy. They're fighting with wrestling shoes on and it was just, some of them did at least. And it's fucking ridiculous. Like, there's no way you should fight like this. Yeah, actually my pro debut was for King of the Cage outside on the Indian reservation. What year was this? I want to say 2017 maybe? So they were still doing them outside even then? Yeah. Wow. At a Saboba Casino. Yeah. Yeah. That's where we went. Yeah. See if you can find the King of the Cage footage for Wet and Wild.

1:02:22It was one of the craziest events I've ever seen in my life. Just imagine you're basically fighting on ice. You're slipping all over the place. Everybody's sliding. This is it. Look, they're trying to mop down the cage in between the fights. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, what are you going to do? You're not going to dry it out. I don't know why they were trying to do this. But they were trying to at least give them some sort of, like, not sopping wet environment. Dude, that must have been so hard to fight on. Oh, look. Look at their slipping. Oh, they're slipping all over the place. At least they had wrestling shoes on because I don't remember what year this was.

1:02:56The ref with the ponchos is kind of funny. I know. It's crazy. All the officials have ponchos on. I mean, it's fucking pouring right now. I don't remember what year it was. I think it said it right there. 2001, I think. Ah, okay. That makes sense. So I think that's illegal days. I'm 99 % sure that's the illegal days. Of course it is because they're wearing shoes. But the whole event was just insane. And imagine trying to get a submission on someone who's literally soaking wet. Yeah, dude. I mean, it's impossible. It's so crazy. But, I mean, these dudes will remember this forever. this event like everybody was there you see the rake oh it's pouring but why are they bothering like sweeping the water off you're not going to dry it out and look at his feet man his feet are sliding all over the place with wrestling shoes on it's crazy in a situation like that you're almost like better off like immediately going to the ground but even then like how are you going to even get a choke people are everyone would slide out of everything it's like fighting someone who's oiled up look at it just drying them off that's crazy yeah yeah but this is the white house one i just i just hope it doesn't rain i hope they figure out a way to kill the bugs too i've been investigating online there's a bunch of different machines that they sell for like outdoor events and these they kill every bug within like a mile radius they set these things up and all the bugs just go to it and get zapped and at the end of it they dump it out there's like a fucking like a big bag of bugs so if they set a bunch of those up around the perimeter maybe they can at least minimize the amount of bugs that are out there because you have uh in the dc area you have a lot of gnats imagine fighting and you got a gnat in your eye you know you're in the middle moving around something goes in your mouth you know yeah is there a lot of them out there oh yeah yeah yeah it's moist that's the thing about dc It's humid.

1:04:56It's a humid environment, especially in the summer. And Jamie and I checked, was it 100 degrees there? Yeah, it's current. I mean, we're getting closer to the date, so the forecast is getting better. It's currently set to be a high of 85, low of 69. 69 is nice. No rain and, well, isolated thunderstorms the two days before. That doesn't mean anything by the time it gets to June. Yeah. And is it June 11th? What is it? It's on the 14th. 14th? 12th and 13th both have isolated thunderstorms. 12th and 13th and it's on the 14th. Oh, fuck. And the one on Friday, it says considerable cloudiness and fog after midnight.

1:05:36I think the fights would be over by then probably, but who knows? Well, the fights are Sunday. Yeah, no, I'm just saying like that means at night it's getting. Yeah. Well, the thing is if it's the low 69, that's nice. So if it cools off by the time the main event starts or the last few fights, But the first few guys that get after it, they're going to probably be fighting in the daytime. Yeah. You know, you never know. They might just spray some chemtrails and change the weather. You know? Yeah, they might. You never know. Oh, if anybody's going to do it, it's Trump. Do you see the thing that he posted?

1:06:11He's got, like, this whole drone army on the roof of the ballroom now. Oh, no, I didn't see it. So, you know, they built. What's up, Jimmy? They will. I mean, it's not done yet. Oh, it's not? No. Oh, well, he posted pictures of the AI? Yeah. Well, no, I mean, it's just a rendering. Oh, that's all it is? Yeah. Oh. How far along is the ballroom? I think they're pretty far. I'm going to show you the picture that they posted, but it's not. It's like a rendering of what it will look like. Oh, that's fake? Yeah. Okay. Why would you tell people what you're going to do? Well, you're going to be able to see that.

1:06:48They can't hide it. That's not what I saw. I saw one that looked like it was during the daytime. yeah obviously that's yeah that's what i saw that's the one i saw so that's what it's gonna look like yeah drones are crazy bro drones fight missiles and guns flying around on the top all controlled by ai that's crazy boy what could go wrong war war is a whole nother whole nother thing these days yeah yeah it's spooky you ever seen some of that footage from ukraine yeah Drones is flying around Just bombing dudes just dropping down on guys and exploding and there's fucking hundreds of those videos now You get it a one of those Instagram algorithms we watch a couple of them and then next thing you know they're getting recommended to you over and over Yeah, dude, that's crazy You know one day I'm talking talking about something with my buddy next thing You know it's all over my phone my feed.

1:07:48I know Yeah, it's crazy. It's weird. We're just accepting the fact that our phones listening to us all the time Yeah, you know what I got trapped in recently algorithm of schizophrenic people Dude, it's all crazy people that like one guy's like hi, I'm Joseph Wilson I am the legitimate president of the United States due to Constitutional reckoning like crazy stuff like crazy people this one lady This one lady is crazy. She's like, I forget what famous actor she was saying. They're trying to kidnap me and put shit in my vagina. She's just completely insane. And every day it's like some new accusation.

1:08:30Someone's after her. Someone's tapping their phone. Someone's communicating with her through her ceiling fan. But I don't know how Instagram knows that these people are schizophrenic and keep sending me schizophrenic people over and over and over again. I know, right? Well, if you're watching them, it thinks you want to keep watching. I understand, but how does it know who's schizophrenic? It must—there's got to be—there's internal tags on every post. Right, but isn't that nuts? I don't know how it's—yeah, how schizo got in there. But it is— Or whatever the word is it's using. Yeah, I don't know what the word is, but it knows these people are fucked up.

1:09:06So it's sending me all these crazy people, like completely insane people. One lady who thinks everybody's a man. She thinks Rosa Parks's secretly a man. Everyone's secretly a man. She's like pointing out like collarbones. Look at them. Look at this is a man Kim Kardashian's a man Everybody's a man. It's fucking nuts man, and it's just schizophrenic people and I'm like, okay So Instagram must know these people are schizophrenic Cuz they're all like I'm telling you it's like three out of ten videos Instagram recommends me are inst or people that are completely crazy So it must know these people are crazy and it's just sending them my way yeah same for me dude i was i was talking to my buddies uh i don't know something about like sardines or something next thing you know i'm like look at my phone i'm like dude what the hell is all this shit about sardines back to back it's crazy bro it's creepy how the ads target you yeah which means brainwashing me into brainwashing me to buying sardines well it's like how much is it listening did you see that post i'll send it to you jamie that kim.com posted about palantir Yeah.

1:10:10Did you see that? It's from February where they got hacked, apparently, maybe. Is that what it is? Yeah, that's what it says. We probably saw the same one. Yeah, I'm sure. It's very recently that I saw it. I didn't check the date on it, though. I could send it to you. Yeah, I got it.

1:10:29I think it's good. Yeah. It's from February 16th. Yes, that's it. That's the one. It's not showing up right here, though. Want me to send it to you? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing I just had was like a Russian website. Click this. No problems. Definitely. That's another one, like Brittany Griner. That poor lady. Oh, yeah. She did nine months. They wanted to put her away forever. Yeah. Didn't they have to exchange like some Russian arms dealer or something like that? Yeah, the merchant of death. The guy's responsible for thousands of people being dead. So this is from Kim.com. Palantir was allegedly hacked, rather, an AI agent was used to gain super user access, and here's what the hackers allegedly found.

1:11:15Peter Thiel and Alice Karp commit mass surveillance of world leaders and titans of industry on a mass scale, massive scale. They have thousands of hours of transcribed and searchable conversations of Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and Elon Musk. They have backdoored the devices, cars, and jets of world leaders and accumulated the biggest archive of blackmail material. Palantir is creating nuclear and bioweapon capabilities for Ukraine and is working closely with the CIA to defeat Russia. They believe they're one year away. They plan to achieve this by keeping Russia busy with meaningless peace negotiations.

1:11:50Palantir is responsible of the majority of Palestinian deaths in Gaza. They've developed the AI targeting for Israel. Palantir is an arm of the CIA and all data from international clients is copied into a seat. So the problem is this is like a legend is there a community notes on this at all? No, really just Kurt Metzger

1:12:16When can we see these hacked materials though, what are the hackers doing with it if they aren't exposing the whole thing then fuck them Yeah, they only he How does he know community knows a lot of things that sometimes are true and sometimes are not sure yeah predictions. Do you know his background? Do you know the story behind that guy? Me or? Yeah. So his I first found out about him a long time ago. He's a very wealthy guy. He lives in New Zealand and he ran a site. Was it a... Super Upload? Yeah. Like one of those uploads. Mega Upload? Was that it? And they targeted him because they said that people were uploading things that were copyrighted material and I think they were trying to they were trying to they were trying to get him out of the country extradited on I think they still want to come back yeah fraud charges related it's on the screen to make upload he denies wrongdoing huge US authorities are pursuing a vendetta against him on behalf of politically influential Hollywood Studios 2018 New Zealand Court of Appeal upheld the lower Courts ruling dot-com appeal to the Supreme Court of New Zealand which ruled in 2020 that dot-com could be extradited to the United States But that he could challenge the decisions through judicial review his extradition order was eventually signed on August of 2024 He's remained free in New Zealand while continuing to pursue judicial review of his extradition order He launched another he launched another cloud storage service called mega Although he severed all ties with the service in 2015 He also started and funded the internet party The party contested in the 2014 New Zealand general election under an electoral alliance with the mana movement And contested the 2017 general election independently but failed to win any seats at either election He was a famous guy in the early days of the internet Did you ever see those videos that he made, like these cartoons?

1:14:24Yeah, I'm trying to remember some things that I remember, but I don't, yeah. Yeah, there was like cartoons that he did where he was like killing dictators in the cartoons. What did he call it? Internet party, moment of truth, extradition. See if you can find Kim.com early animated videos. He's big on the Seth Rich conspiracy here. He should be. Um, the Seth Rich one is wild. The Seth Rich one is one of the ones where I just, I don't understand why anybody doesn't think that that's crazy. This guy gets assassinated after he supposedly gave WikiLeaks all sorts of inside information on the Democratic Party about how they kept people out of the election, how they were running things.

1:15:14And then he winds up getting whacked. And they're like, no, it was a robbery attempt at three in the morning. They left his watch. They left his wallet. They left everything, his phone. They just killed him. See if you can find his videos. He has some crazy videos. I want to say these are from like the 90s, like late 90s or early 2000s. He was, I don't even know what he was doing, but he was very wealthy. He had this crazy house and his hot wife and he would show videos of it and shit. And I think this guy's just been persecuted because of that sight that he had. And he's fucked now. They just keep going after him.

1:15:54I don't know if he's right about this Palantir stuff, so I probably shouldn't have been saying it. But you do know that, like, in worst case scenario, a gigantic corporation could have the power to surveil everyone all the time. Everyone's online. Yeah. I mean, they can see you now with Wi-Fi. They know where you are in a building at any given time with the Wi-Fi in the building. Oh, that's crazy. Crazy. They use Wi-Fi, and they can get a literal image of you walking around your house. They know where you are at any given time because of the Wi-Fi. So if they tap into your Wi-Fi, they know where you are.

1:16:30There's a targeted strike in the upper right bedroom. It's crazy. Send a drone after you. It's crazy. It's really nuts, man. because this is, this wasn't, here it is. So this is from like, this is some old internet stuff. This is a flash video. Yeah. 90s flash video. Yeah, this is it. Give me some volume. I'm surprised that even has sound. It's going to be a very crude sound. Yeah, this is what he did. I remember this. So this was the 90s. So this is the same guy. He's a very interesting guy.

1:17:13He's getting in a boat? Yeah, it's called Kimble Special Agent. I mean, he's probably... Yeah, if it was made in the 90s, this is 30 years ago. He's screwing around with internet graphics. He slides up and catches a helicopter. He lands on the ground.

1:17:35He's standing on top of Microsoft. What is he doing? Oh, there's Bill Gates. Boy, people hated Bill Gates even back then.

1:17:52That's crazy. It's assassinating Bill Gates.

1:18:03What the fuck? It's so weird. Oh, he didn't kill them. He just wrote Linux around them. So he got in trouble for these? Nah. No. Nah, not really. I mean, I think people just thought those were silly. He got in trouble for that mega upload site. So the way it used to work is, do you remember Napster? Yeah. Right. So Napster worked where you could take songs. You could upload them and anybody could download these songs the way mega upload worked and a lot of these upload sites Is you could take a film and you could turn into a digital file and say you take like Avatar turn into a digital file and upload it and people could then download it and watch it on their home Entertainment system through the internet just download the file Plugin them HDMI cord from a computer into the TV and boom you're watching movies and you don't have to pay anything.

1:18:56And the thing was, it's like all this stuff was copyrighted material. And I think his argument was like, yeah, but I'm not uploading it. I'm just hosting this service. And they're like, well, this service is used to do illegal things. So you're in trouble. So it's like I don't know what the argument is there. I don't know who's right. Do you understand it, Jamie? Yeah, you explained it, but, I mean, most people would go like copyright law, American copyright law only matters in America. I don't know if that's the argument he was making That's true too, right? Because he's in New Zealand And this site was hosted in Hong Kong Mmm Yeah On January 20, 2012 They seized more than 300 million dollars Hong Kong money, it's 40 million dollars in American money Damn, son He denied any wrongdoing I wonder how he's earning money now I wonder if they took all his money I mean, they did I just looked it up mega is like a cloud service website now.

1:19:55I don't know if he owns it or runs it He's trying to do cryptocurrency stuff. I'm sure he was big into Bitcoin when it started. He's probably doing okay Yeah, I don't know what the story is, but I'm kind of rooting for him He's a fun character online. Oh, he's very fun online. I don't know if he's right about the Palantir stuff, but forget about Palantir We know that But what's happening now in terms of you talking into your phone about sardines and then your phone showing you ads? Like, they're definitely listening to something. Grok said it's unverified. As of February—oh, so this was Grok commenting on it.

1:20:30Kim.com's claims about a Palantir hack and related allegations remain unverified. Major outlets like Reuters, BBC, and New York Times show no coverage. Palantir's site has no statements. Some sources echo the post, but no independent evidence confirms it. Right, but you got to think if you know a dude who's deeply connected into the hacker world, it's that guy. Right? I think he's the most public one. Yeah, he'd be the guy that would know some shit. I wouldn't be surprised. If it's not Palantir, and I'm not accusing Palantir of anything, but there's got to be at least one point in time, there's going to be a corporation that has the power to do those things.

1:21:12and that's what's going on with all this surveillance shit that people are missing. I'm sure there already is. You know, they're already doing that, you know? Yeah. I mean. 100%. If I was an evil person running some gigantic corporation, I would do it. Especially if I thought I was right and doing the right thing. I can imagine, like, China probably has. Of course. You know. 100%. Also, I forgot what I was reading that someone got arrested. I think some government official or something got arrested and admitted to being a spy for China. Well, yeah. Well, there was a mayor in California, in Arcadia, California.

1:21:57There was a spy for China. She was the fucking mayor. The mayor of a city was working for China. Yeah, and admitted it. Yeah. It's crazy. Oh, China's playing a long game. They they infiltrate universities they give money to universities they fund programs they give money to research labs they sell cell phone towers at a Discounted rate to the military and these dumb motherfuckers put them around where their military bases are yeah Yeah, I've had guys that are you know CIA guys on the podcast tell me about that how dangerous it is that they've They bought farmland all around these military bases.

1:22:37China has yeah What's up? Did you say something? I thought you said something. Yeah, that's crazy It's crazy that they are even allowed to do that Like you imagine you you're in conflict with another country and they buy land right next to your house You're like hey. Yeah, what are you doing? Forget about your house a fucking military base Anybody buying any land around a military base should be thoroughly vetted It should be there should be different laws if you want to buy land around a military base It should be like no, you know, yeah background check for sure not just background check like you should be American citizen a And you should have like a legitimate verifiable reason for owning this land Like you're a farmer or you can put fucking windmills up there.

1:23:20Whatever you're gonna do. It should make sense It shouldn't be like all you have to do is have money and you could buy land right next to a military base yeah where they're doing who knows what yeah and you know china has like some of the top top uh you know um some of the the like you never know what they're watching yeah the technology oh their technology is off the charts their drone technology is beyond ours and they they have like crazy drone displays where they have enormous dragons oh yeah i've seen that fly them over the sky like thousands and thousands of drones and they make a dancing dragon in the sky like whoa so they're all coordinated but some sort of a computer program and they all work autonomously it's nuts man like their technology their cars are insane china's cars they have electronic or electric cars that are beyond anything we have here in america yeah and they can't sell them here which i think is kind of crazy i think that's kind of fucked it's kind of i mean i guess we're in competition with China but like it should be survival of the fittest when it comes to cars like if you're making the best fucking cars and you happen to be in China they should be over here right you know yeah I mean it would suck if I was Ford and these Chinese cars were way better than anything that we're making here but everybody that I've talked to and I've talked to some guys that work for major automobile organizations and they went over to China and like oh my god we're fucked like these cars are insane yeah yeah i mean just tesla alone i know i know it's not china but i mean oh those cars are insane yeah they're pretty dope but they make them here and they make them in china too they made a lot they were making a lot of them in china during the pandemic because the pandemic didn't really close things down in china the way it closed things down here but they're they have electric cars now that have like these insane suspensions they go zero to 60 in one and a half seconds.

1:25:19They're nuts. Yeah, there's this dude that I follow online. God, what's his name? Forrest Auto Reviews? I'm trying to remember. But he does these quick reviews, and somehow or another he always gets these Chinese cars. I'll find his name. You know who he is? I don't think this is his channel, but I'm looking at the Xiaomi SU7. I can find his video if you want me to. Yeah, these cars are nuts, man. It looks like a Tesla, but... Oh, that's the dude. It is? Yeah. What is his channel? This isn't his channel, I don't think. Somebody else uploaded it? Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe somebody else uploaded it.

1:25:58I think it's the same guy. Let me find it. I think it's Forrest Auto Review. No, that's not him. He's not that guy. Hold on.

1:26:10This guy. Yes. Forrest Jones. That's it. so he keeps finding he keeps reviewing these just good scroll down for his videos go to his video section I'm not if you can just narrow it down more but didn't really work one year ago Tesla minivan are you trying to minivans they have some crazy shit fine find a good one I don't know if it's electric it's just a luxury car though yeah this is it this is electric look at these things They're nuts. ...and a Huawei sound system with this gorgeous speaker. I also get two wireless charging pads with a fan to keep them cool. I have this gorgeous drive mode selector.

1:26:52I have cup holders right in here, and I have a dash cam that can do this. Wow, that's crazy. Quick selfies. You also get a spot for the blicky. A big one. I have built-in fragrances that slot in right here. If I push this button, I have more storage space, and I can do this. If I push the button on the side of my seat, that'll fold down my armrests. My seats are heated, ventilated, and massaging. I have an area right down here for my phone. I have built-in sunscreen shades. If I push this button, my cup holder comes out, and I can do this.

1:27:22This is$37 ,000. And these cars are not available in the U.S.? What if I want to watch a movie? That one's$37 ,000? Is that one? I don't know. No, maybe I'm looking at the wrong video. That sounds like it would cost more than$37 ,000. It says luxury cars. Yeah. What car is that? Does it say? It doesn't say. It doesn't say in the description? No description has been added to this video. No. See, go over to the beginning and see what it says. Inside I get a moonroof, pillows on my headrests, these heated, ventilated, and massaging seats. I get a passenger screen. Yeah, so they're doing wild shit over in China with technology.

1:27:54And they have full surveillance on their population. You can't say shit over there. Yeah, they have like facial recognition and everything. That's crazy. Yeah, you can't step out of line at all. They'll make you, turn you into a handbag. So you don't fuck around over there. Yeah. You know, they have, do you know that bodies exhibit? Do you know what that is? Yeah. Like the dead bodies exhibit? I think there's one in Vegas. Exactly. They get their bodies, most of them, from China. And they're, yeah, they're called like Chinese, I think it's undeclared bodies. So like if you die within a certain amount of time, if someone doesn't claim your body, unclaimed bodies if someone doesn't claim your body within like 30 days they just can turn you into a statue wow well here's the problem with that in order to do this process where they turn you into a statue it has to take place within 48 hours of your death so there's no way they're waiting a month yeah so they have to start this process like pretty soon after you die and they have this process called plastination and they take the bodies and they basically strip all the fat from the body and they turn it into this plasticized statue of all your muscles and tendons and ligaments and so you're out there like playing basketball and like you could see like the rib cage and all the ligaments that was a dude that was probably tweeting the wrong thing or he worked for a company and he fucked up or he was banging someone's wife or he was doing something and they turned this dude into a statue and now he's at the Luxor in Vegas playing golf Yeah, for real we looked into it.

1:29:38It's there's not not just me saying this. There's a bunch of stories Online about these different bodies and how they've found ones with bullet holes in them They found one of them is crazy. So this lady was Having an affair with a mayor in this town in China and she was an online or a television broadcaster She was like a news lady or something like that. And she was having an affair with the mayor. The wife finds out about it. The lady goes missing. She gets scrubbed from the Internet. Turns out the lady was pregnant. She was eight months pregnant. She goes missing. Then all of a sudden this pregnant lady appears at the bodies exhibit with the baby inside of her.

1:30:22Same exact size, same features, everything as this lady. the wife of the mayor who she was having an affair with the wife was the manager of the plastination factory where they turn everybody into statues damn damn and and these bodies there's no skin on them no skin it gets even crazier years later she gets arrested for killing another person she gets arrested for poisoning some english business man and then it goes to trial well the person who stood trial for her the person who stood was not her there's pictures of the lady on the stand it's a different lady so she must have paid someone off to get convicted and go to jail like paid their family off or something like that and she got free so this is all alleged by the way yeah all alleged but the you could see the video or the um the body is still exhibited, the body of the pregnant lady.

1:31:23So there's a pregnant lady and you see a cross section of her stomach where she's like holding onto her stomach and you see the fetus inside of her stomach. So we're supposed to believe that this undiscovered body, this unclaimed body of a pregnant lady with an eight month old fetus inside of her body that they find it. And then somehow or another, they know it's cool. So you can just turn it into a statue, but you have to do that within 48 hours of someone's death but no one claimed it which takes a month none of it makes any sense yeah the whole thing is nuts some of them are people that like i'm gonna die i want to donate my body to this exhibit okay if you're crazy and that's what you want to do that's cool but that's not all those people some of those people are it's very sketchy circumstances see if you can find that image of the i wonder how often or how many how many times that happened like because because wouldn't like the the pregnant uh body like they never investigated it the family The family wanted to.

1:32:17The family wanted to investigate. They wouldn't let them. Exactly. They were trying to do that, but they wouldn't let them do it. These people obviously have immense power. She got someone, allegedly, got someone to stand in line for. And this is like in China? This is in China. So look at this. This is the baby. Pregnant woman and the fetus inside of her. And so the family looked at the face, and they're like, Jesus Christ, oh, someone stole the fetus? Oh. Oh. Also, I was digging. There's another scandal that happened in 2024 with a bunch of corpses in China, too. Well, there's a video where this investigative reporter visited one of these plastination factories, and there was bodies that were laying down.

1:33:02There's a video of it. You can watch the video. These bodies are laying down. They have sheets over their head, and they have their arms tied behind their back, and the sheets are bloody. so it looks like they all got whacked and they're all at this plant getting ready to be turned into a fucking statue. It's creepy as shit, man. This body was... They just stole the fetus. Two women in LA stole it. Two women? This was 20 years ago. They probably stuffed it inside of their belly. Look at him, Frank. It's probably on my Instagram algorithm right now. There's another scandal they had where over 4 ,000 bodies were in a corpse scheme They said where they were being sold.

1:33:42Families thought their family member was being cremated. Was not. They were being sold into, I was trying to find out what they were using. That's a lot of bodies. Jesus Christ. They were using them for bone grafting. So allogenic bone graft products. Oh, that's another thing one of these schizophrenic ladies was telling me. And that is true. That a lot of these women are getting fat that's taken from cadavers. So they take fat from cadavers and then they inject that fat in their ass to give them a BBL like no bullshit And Whitney Cummings, I told I sent it to Whitney. She's like, oh my god, it's literal dead ass

1:34:25That's such a funny line because that's what it is. I mean, it's dead tissue You're taking a dead person's fat and they're stuffing it in their ass cadaver fat transfer utilizing processed human donor fat has become a major emerging alternative to traditional autologous fat transfers like traditional brazilian butt lifts or bbls and synthetic implants how does it work instead of harvesting fat from your own body via liposuction surgeons use donated human fat harvested via authorized tissue banks allegedly the fat is rigorously screened, sterilized, and processed to remove all the donor's DNA, cells, and genetic material.

1:35:10What remains is a structural clumpy butter. So hot. Clumpy butter ass is so hot. Matrix of collagen, proteins, and growth factors. When injected into the body, this matrix provides immediate volume and also acts as a biological scaffold that encourages your own natural tissue to integrate and grow into it. Yeah, that's gross, bro. Dead ass. Actual dead ass. And women are doing this. See if you can find a video of them doing it. I was thinking like, man, how do you... You don't want to? They call it zombie filler. Oh, that's so nasty. That's so nasty. How about you just do some squats, you lazy bitch.

1:35:58Yeah. But that's – people like a real ass anyway. The ass and the legs, it has to match, folks. It has to match. You can't fake it. It's like you ever see those dudes that they don't really have muscles, but they get oil injected into their arms. And it's just like – It's all weird. Weird. It's almost like an Indian dude. I saw this Brazilian dude. He had it on his biceps. And his traps. He had it on his traps. Giant traps. Giant crazy shoulders, big tits, crazy. And he's like flexing and doing all this stuff. But it looks weird because it's your body. It's like it doesn't fit. Yeah. It doesn't fit your body.

1:36:32That's the same thing when a girl gets a crazy fat ass and she's got these toothpick legs because she's lazy. Yeah. Like that doesn't fit your legs. This looks like you're wearing a diaper. This is crazy. Don't do that. Yeah. Man, dude. Commit to the process. Women go to the extreme. I know. Yeah. Well, the thing is, I think if you do just a little bit, just a little bit of dead ass, maybe it's nice. Yeah. I bet there's girls that have done it that you go to the right doctor like this Beverly Hills dude. He's like, I got you. Just enough. You're just going to plump that sucker up just a little bit.

1:37:04Just a little bit. Yeah. A little bit of dead ass. A little bit of just to touch. Just to touch your dead ass. That's pretty gross. Like for someone to put someone else's clumpy butter in.

1:37:18It's fucking completely disgusting. How do your body even react to that? Or how to like. Not well. Yeah. Not well. And then to have all that, take out the DNA and all this other stuff. What if they don't? What if that's bullshit? What if the DNA's in there? What if you start getting weird memories? You know? Yeah. Weird memories from ass tissue, like weird nightmares. Fucking photos here are rough. Let's go. Pull them up. Right here. Ho! Elderly male fresh cadaver underwent a layered dissection of all my eyes. So they're taking fat from an elderly guy's face? Actual dead body? Whoa! Does it matter where the fat comes from?

1:37:55I guess not. I guess it's just fat. So this is a dead guy and they're peeling So who sold his body to some fucking laboratory? Yeah, have the clumpy butter in this look at that in the upper right hand corner a whole crazy So this is pre dead ass and post dead ass. See that's not bad It's not bad, but that lady could have done that with the gym True. That lady could have done that. She didn't go crazy there. That's just a little dead ass. Just a touch. That probably looks good on the side if you turn it sideways. Is there any photos where they show? This video there says one shot costs$20 ,000.

1:38:33Let's see that guy. He looks like a demon. Well, these videos are. That's not even a real shit. That's an AI. It falls down a weird path here. Oh, my God. Yeah. I'm not showing those photos either. It's disgusting. So they're just sucking fat at a dead people. I had one of my knees reconstructed with a cadaver graft on my ACLs. They use an Achilles tendon because the Achilles tendon is thicker and stronger than the actual ACL, and they put it in my right knee. It's never been a problem. Holy. Works great. From your own body? No, no, no, from a dead dude. Oh, okay. Oh, what's that? That says gluteal augmentation, so that's butt.

1:39:21Right. Right. It says fat grafting. So that would be putting fat into the butt. Oh, where's that scar? Bro, that scar is gigantic. I just got a fork holding it open. Look how green everything looks in there. Oh, that looks so nasty. It looks like bad cheese. That's disgusting. That looks like, you know when you go to see like dry-aged meat and you pass by those nice daycaps? They have the dry-aged meat container. So you're going to get your fat put in your ass or an implant, but then you have this massive scar. I mean, these pictures are gnarly. That is another head. Look at the ear right there.

1:40:03So that's where they're getting the fat. How much fat do you have in your head? Well, that says temporal augmentation by intermediate fat pad filler injection. So that's someone getting that done to their head. Maybe it's like tightening up the skin. Yeah, maybe, right? Like a filler. Oh, yeah, there you go. Look, it says here. Oh, she looks good. That actually looks good. So that's from her fat graph. Sorry, I can't show these photos, guys. You have to Google it. Sorry, folks. Some of it's disgusting. But if you look at like people's face when they get older, that's one of the things that happens is you lose collagen and fat in your face.

1:40:42And that does make sense that putting it in would be better. See, that looks like hell. Both of them look like hell. Don't do that. Go to the gym, lazy bitch. What is that one to the right of it, though? That one to the right? Yeah, like there. So she got a little bit of a bubble butt from that. But again go to the gym. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Yeah the rest of the body. Yeah, go to the gym This is crazy Yeah questionable choices you get dead ass You get dead people's tissue pumped into your butt so that more people want to fuck you like hey find Jesus Go find Jesus If you are out there that I don't give a lot of advice But this is my advice if you're out there and you're thinking about getting dead people's fat pumped in your ass you probably need Jesus.

1:41:32Yeah. Yeah, I mean. DBLs are kind of going out of style, man. Yeah. I think people think they're gross. Naturals are coming back. They should. Naturals are making a comeback. Yeah. Just work out. Like, there's a lot of ladies that have flat butts that they put in the time, they put in the effort, and now you're like, damn, you can do that too. Yeah. Anybody can do it. It's just the process. Yeah. People don't like that process. People just want quick results, man. Exactly. They don't want to work for it. They want Ozempic, and then they want dead ass. They don't want to lose the weight. I think there's like a nice combo they could put together.

1:42:06And now they're saying. And then put it back where you want it. Yeah, Retruatide. What is that called? Retruatide. Retruatide. Retruatide and dead ass. They should have like a one-stop shop. Yeah, now they're saying Ozempic eats up your bones. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, definitely. So everybody's fucked who's been taking it. Well, it's not just that. It also kills your desire. This is what's weird. Like people are falling out of love when they get on Ozempic. Like they lose their desire. Really? Yeah. People lose ambition. They lose desire. They also lose addiction. Like people that are addicted to cigarettes, people that are addicted to alcohol and gambling.

1:42:45Apparently Ozempic helps that because you're basically killing desire. Like your desire to go and smoke a cigarette, your desire to have a drink gets killed by Ozempic. Yeah, it also changes your whole face, right? Oh, yeah. Eats up all your fat in her face. Yeah. Yeah, that's a problem. Especially for ladies as they get older. Like, the more fat you have on your face, the better you look. Like, when your skin gets real thin and starts draping over your bones, you know, that doesn't look healthy. Yeah. It looks like a problem. You like to cut weight. I know. Yeah, it's fucked. It's fucked that that's a part of our society now.

1:43:22And it's just preying on people's lack of discipline and lack of understanding of the benefits of going through a process and achieving a result. Because of all these ladies that wanted to do this, instead, if they just went to a gym, started eating healthy, they would feel better, they would think better, their body would look better, everything would be better. And they wouldn't have to get dead ass. Yeah. Yeah, it's just people being really self-conscious, you know, about themselves. Like I know a hot hot ass chicks it I'm like wait you take Ozempic why like why oh just like a little You know, I'm like you don't need it I think some women say there's a real benefit to taking a micro dose after a certain age I was watching a video this lady's talking about how micro dosing These GLP ones is actually beneficial for some women after a certain age because it helps reduce inflammation Does a bunch of different things to them, but I don't know do you?

1:44:20gain the weight? Say if there's people that are just, oh, I'm just going to do it. Really overweight people who obviously do that struggle with diet and working out. When they get off, do they gain all the weight back like everything else? Most likely, if it's a psychological issue, the moment you get off of it, that psychological issue is going to return. Because that shrinks your stomach or something, right? Yeah, well, it does, but it's basically you're starving yourself. Just like when you got out of jail, you barely could eat that double cheeseburger, right? It's because your stomach shrank because you weren't eating much.

1:44:55That's kind of the same thing that happens with Ozempic. I mean, what happens to them when people say, oh, my God, it makes you lose bone mass. It makes you lose muscle mass. Right, but so does starving yourself. That's one of the things that happens when people go on these crash diets. They go, I'm 30 pounds overweight. I'm just not going to eat. Okay, well, your body's going to find food somewhere, so it's going to eat itself. And yeah, your body will eat fat, but it's also going to eat muscle tissue. It's also going to eat bone tissue. Your body's going to consume itself to survive, which is crazy.

1:45:25So these things that you're getting, these side effects of like bone loss and muscle loss, that's what would happen if you just stopped eating too. It's your body doesn't have any nutrients. Just like when you were in jail, you weren't getting any protein. You weren't growing any muscles. Yeah. Your body is not getting the nutrients that it needs. So it's just shrinking. So red a true tide is I say so that the difference between this red a true side This one is a different one in that this one allows you to have all the weight loss, but you don't lose the muscle loss It's not the same thing. I want to show you a picture of what I look like.

1:46:02Oh, yeah, please do is horrible You got my number send it to me and I'll send it to Jamie All right if um, it's shocking bro. You're back. Holy hell, bro. If this red a two child Am I saying it right? Reddit True Tide? Reddit True Tide? Whatever it is. This one they think is going to be incredible. Because this one is going to give you all the fat loss, but none of the muscle loss, none of the bone density loss. And I wonder if it's going to be the same for like desire and whether it's going to fuck with addictions and all those other things too. because I was reading this thing where employers are they're getting upset at people taking GLP ones because it changes their ambition I saw it too I've been trying to find that article ever since I saw it and I can't find it and that's not that it is but it makes me wonder if it's like right propaganda propaganda against it from the people who are on like you know selling the good stuff now they don't want to know get replaced it could put it into perplexity see what ai our ai sponsor are people working yeah um habits change do employ are there employers who are having a problem with their employees taking glp ones because it affects their work or ambition i think what they were saying was ambition it's making people less ambitious which kind of makes sense because i think a lot of people their ambition is probably an addiction they're probably addicted to kicking ass and doing things here it goes yes but the main employer issues with glp once today are cost coverage and side effects impacting attendance and productivity not a clearly documented widespread loss of work ambition the same thing kind of probably yeah productivity sure if you're not as ambitious but attendance is it Unless you're injured, you're hurt.

1:48:00I might just show up. You might be like, I don't even feel like going. Right, right. So side effects and performance. Common side effects are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea. Plus, headaches and fatigue can result in comfort, increased absenteeism, and are tied to workplace performance issues if unmanaged. Legal and HR complexity, employers must balance cost control with ADA, HIPAA, and non-discrimination rules when deciding coverage and when asked about employee medication use. Evidence of motivation and ambition. There are anecdotal stories, media and personal accounts of people feeling less driven or shifting life priorities on GLP-1s, but these are not yet backed by large workplace-specific studies.

1:48:46So employers are not treating lost ambition as a primary policy issue, but I bet they're thinking about it Yeah, I bet they're thinking about it. I mean it makes sense. Did you find it? I'm having a sentiment. Okay. Yeah, what'd you look like right when you got out? Yeah, yeah Yeah, it was crazy dude Can't find her and I'm having someone send it to me though. Okay. No worries I'm kind of embarrassed to show you But I gotta see this Because if you see me now I'm like, holy hell, bro Crazy A good before and after is great The people that are really brave Are the ones that say I'm gonna get in shape So here's what I look like right now And they post that on the internet Like, whoa That's crazy But that's also It's a good way to hold yourself accountable You know?

1:49:37You want a bunch of people to shit on you Fat shaming works I know it's not nice people don't like it but when someone calls you a fat fuck and you're like oh man you start thinking and you go to work yeah man you know yeah a little bit of hard work you know a little bit of hard work get it you know well listen if there's a way where massively obese people that are dying can get healthy and if it's a glp1 i'm all for it but for everybody else just get to work and you'll you'll you'll respect yourself so much better like right now like you You could look in the mirror and go, damn, I look so much better than I did when I got out of jail.

1:50:15Because you could have stayed looking exactly that same way. Right? If you got discouraged when you were saying, like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this. I have no endurance. I don't know if it's ever going to come back. A lot of people would have just quit right there. Yeah. And if you quit right there, you wouldn't be able to appreciate the results when you kept going. And that's the case with everybody that's at a bad place right now. Just go to work. Go to work. Write it down. Go to work. Put it together. Yeah. And, yeah, man, I think it just makes you that much, like, stronger and, like, aside from the work, but, like, internally.

1:50:53100%. You know? Yeah. It makes you value yourself so much more in health. Absolutely. You know? It's also good for your brain and your brain's ability to do tough things. If you get through something difficult, you realize, like, oh, I've been here, like, the next time some fucked up shit happens to you, like, I've been here before. I know it sucks right now, but I'm gonna just trust this process exactly keep on trucking So right when I when I got back to work and I was like man I'm in the phase right now where it it sucks, you know like waking up sore as hell I remember the first time I did leg day.

1:51:27I couldn't I couldn't even fucking walk dude Did you have somebody walking you through it like how to do it correctly? We don't overdo it in the beginning because Like did you work with a trainer or anybody? um yeah yeah uh like over at the pi there so when we first got started we obviously didn't want to like because i was so eager to just get back in shape and and and it was it was tough you know but that's like one of the things that that uh like while running why like i like i love to run and it's it's like one of those things where like a lot of people they reach to with a point where they get tired and then they just stop you know they'll just quit you know i'm like you got to push yourself more and more harder and more harder next thing you know you catch a second wind and you know you're you're jamming but when i first first started i swear dude like i would like so when i first got out my my oldest son he he wrestles for high school um and he was like oh you're gonna wrestle you know right you want to wrestle because he's like you know he knew i was out of shape i'm like oh man he might he might get me you know so in my mind i'm like all right i got one good one good takedown in me and right and and yeah sure enough um we wrestled and then shot for that takedown got the takedown and got up and now i'm just like whoa whoa and like he just ragdolled me after that he just ragdolled me man and then uh actually a couple days ago I got back from Vegas and I hit him up.

1:53:07I was like, what's up now? You know, like, what's up now? And, yeah, man, from that first workout to this one, you know, we made it through a whole workout, you know. It's such a good feeling because I got really, like, really discouraged, bro. I'm not even going to lie. And there was points where I was, like, got real emotional. I was like, dude, how am I this tired? Like, this is crazy, you know. And then I just always told myself, like, dude, you've made it through so much in your life that you could come back and you can bounce back for this. So this whole process has been like, to me, it's like a comeback story, you know?

1:53:48Of course. And it's just about trusting that process. It's just so hard when you used to be at one point and now you're way, way, way below that. And you've got to build back up to get to where you used to be, you know? But that's kind of a blessing. There's a blessing in that because you realize like after it's over, it's like, wow, I did it. I did it. I pushed through all that bullshit. I got my body back in shape again. I'm back. Like when you get done with your camp, when you're peaking on that last week, you're going to feel so good. Yeah, man. Honestly, I feel great now. and and like i feel like i've i've done such a great job and and actually recovering more doing like a lot more recovery stuff and i've been i've been incorporated that so much and before i used to just go go go and like now like i take the time to recover and and um i've been i've been taking this stuff from regenerate what is that uh regenerate is uh uh like and and what is it nad or something like that okay yeah stuff like that and so it's nmn so it's like a precursor to nad yeah the ufc provides it yeah okay so that means it's third party tested regenerate does that um who who makes that stuff do you know um i know i know that they're they're definitely the UFC uh approved approved and like I think they might even sponsor Thorne is the main supplement company that you that the UFC uses right yeah because they're all third-party tested it's like safe for sport yeah the uh yeah it's um true shield certified products for professional athletes and uh yeah I started I started taking that like about two two fights ago and yeah I feel great I I guess it's like NAD, like some kind of anti-aging or something like that.

1:55:48Yeah. It basically lengthens your telomeres. And it sort of brings your body back to like a level of recovery that it had when it was younger, allegedly. There's a lot of people that take IV, NAD, and they take NAD. and you can get it in the subcutaneous under the fat injections. They do it that way too. Yeah. Yeah, but I think some of the best ways is actually NMN, that stuff, because what it does is it's like a precursor, and your body just makes more NAD that way. Yeah. I take it. Yeah? Yeah, it works. I take it before I go to bed every night. You know, Andrew Huberman was telling me about it.

1:56:38He was saying he noticed that when he really felt like it was working, one of the things that he noticed was that his fingernails were growing quicker. And that's the same thing with me. I texted him the other day. I go, this is crazy. Like, my fingernails grow way quicker than they used to. And I think it's because of that. That's crazy. I just noticed that, too. I mean, that would be going crazy, too. Yeah. Well, I think it's your body's ability to regenerate, you know, and heal. and like for fighters like there's nothing more important than your ability to recover from a hard workout so you can get to another one yeah and um i spent a lot of time like in hyperbaric hyperbaric chamber and now there's this thing um like this pimp pimp pmm pmf pmf pmf yeah pmf or something like that uh-huh and it's like an actual like a whole bed and just like right just kicks up like just some electric little pulses.

1:57:33And I'll be taking naps on that thing. So some of the stuff, I don't even know what it does. And I was like, oh, it's for recovery. I'll do it. Hyperbaric works. And it works in the same way that NAD and NMN work, in that it lengthens your telomere. So they did this study out of a university in Israel, I believe it was, where they put people on a protocol of, For 90 days, they did 60, 90-minute sessions at a hyperbaric chamber, and they showed that their telomere increase was equal to a 20-year difference in biological age. So it makes your cells younger because you're infusing them with energy.

1:58:11You're infusing them with oxygen. Every time I do it, when I do it for, like, a series of it, when I get, like, real consistent with it when I have the time, I always feel better. I'm always like, why don't I do this all the time? Yeah. Yeah, I'm in there like four or five times a week. That's huge. That is one of the best things ever for your recovery, especially as you get older, you know, because it makes your body react like a young body does, you know? Yeah, so I'm over here racing against the clock, man, so I'm trying to do everything possible for my body just to recover from these hard-ass workouts, you know?

1:58:46How long was it after you got out before you started sparring again? um i recently just started sparring about three weeks ago so you gave yourself yeah so what i wanted to do was was definitely get in shape get get get in good enough shape to like because if you go to extreme and you're out of shape they're gonna you're gonna get killed yeah they're gonna it's gonna be very demoralizing yeah yeah so i i definitely wanted to to get my my get myself in good enough shape so like this whole time I've been doing like a whole bunch of like weight lifting stuff and and technical stuff and and a lot of snc stuff and and and all right conditioning just getting your body back and yeah again yeah so just recently I'm like all right I feel I feel I feel good enough to to to spar and and um yeah I've been having pretty hard sparring sparring sessions well you were a guy that was known for your endurance before you know you're not a guy that fatigues and fights very much, you know?

1:59:45So it's like, and you always push up a good pace too. So for you to get back to where you used to be and have that same style, like you have to be in shape first. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I've been getting ready just to start getting ready, you know? Right, right, right. Yeah. Do you wish you had more time than August? Or do you think it's a good enough time period? I think it's a good enough time, especially like the way I feel now. And you have two months to go. Yeah, and I have like another eight, Eight and a half weeks, eight, nine weeks, something like that. That's nice. Have you been to Serbia before?

2:00:17Never been. I've been watching videos of, like, the Serbian crowd, like, in basketball. Yeah, it's wild. Bro. That shit is wild. Those crowds are crazy. So in my mind, that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting, like, to be chanting and crazy. They might be. Have they had a UFC in Serbia before? This is the first one. Whoa. First UFC in Serbia. We've played those Serbian basketball games a bunch of times. Here we go. There's an outside one. There's an outside one? They got fires and shit. I don't hear anything. I don't. Yeah, so I had looked this up because I'm going to hear. Listen to these people.

2:01:00They treat it like war. Yes. Like the audiences, they chant like a war is going on in the middle of a basketball game. And, you know, all these Serbians that are coming over and dominating an American basketball. Well, guess why? Yeah. Those are tough motherfuckers. motherfuckers that's originally why i had looked this up a long time ago and um was it nikola yokich yokich one of the top nba players uh and i was like when i when i uh when i found fanboy over like and i love basketball basketball is like one of my favorite sports um i always like look into like the background of the basketball player where he came from and i had already seen the serbian basketball crowds like man i'd be dope to go to like a a basketball game in serbia you know yeah i'd be careful what i ate and drank you know i'm saying yeah he's going over there to fight their main dude in the main event yeah yeah that's crazy just gotta make sure yeah in my mind like dude that's that's crazy man it's like especially they've never had a fight over there before never had a ufc over there i'm not accusing the serbians of doing i'm like it might be a few unscrupulous gamblers.

2:02:10A few people. Look at this. This is a basketball game.

2:02:25I mean, they got war drums. They got war drums they're pounding.

2:02:35Bro, this is Viking shit. I love it So this is what I'm expecting I love it I want to go see a basketball game Especially fighting their guy Oh yeah, it's going to be nuts For sure But it's going to be exciting It's going to be so weird for you When they shut that cage Like, oh my god, I'm back I was in jail in Mexico I was in a different kind of cage Yeah, like a way less preferable cage Wild, man What a crazy fucking story Yeah, man and I get to, you know, tell the whole, keep the story going, you know, make it even better. Yeah, does it piss you off? Because, like, you had so much momentum after beating Kevin Holland.

2:03:20Like, that was a big victory for you? Yeah, it couldn't have happened at a worse time, man. I know. Because Kevin's a tough guy and a tricky guy. And that was a welterweight fight, right? Yeah. And fighting him at welterweight, that's where he's at his best, you know, Kevin at Walter Waite is really, that's where he belongs. Yeah, man. For you to beat him, that's huge. Yeah, dude. He's such a tricky guy too, man. Yeah, it was an amazing fight, dude. It was. I hadn't been, I don't think I've had a fight like that in my career where there was so much going on. I was almost, I dropped him in the second.

2:03:56You know, I almost blew my fucking gas tank trying to finish him and then come the third round, he drops me and almost finishes me and I bounce back and then end up on top. It's like, those are the fights that I train for, bro. In my mind, that's what I'm training for, you know? Yeah. And it couldn't have worked out. That fight was amazing. That's my third time being scheduled to fight him. And it finally happened, and it was an amazing fight. It was everything I expected it to be. And I expect this fight to be an absolute war as well, you know? Dude's got a couple knockouts. Looks pretty good He's a very skillful guy Eros Medich is no joke He's very good It's going to be a good fight It's perfect I'm going to bring it You always do For that man It's going to be so emotional For you Having that moment To realize that you're fully all the way back I can't imagine What is the craziest shit you saw in jail in Mexico?

2:05:06The craziest shit I saw in jail in Mexico? Nothing really too crazy, man. Really? Yeah. I would imagine Tijuana Jail is pretty fucking crazy. Was it because you were in sort of a protected area? No, to be honest with you, the area I was in was kind of like the VIP section, bro. I was like, everybody was like there, like someone with money or like, you know, well, we paid to be there. You know, I wasn't like, it wasn't like that protected. It was kind of dangerous in a sense where like at night all the cell doors are open, you know, so it's kind of like a little dangerous on that. A little sketchy.

2:05:52Yeah, a little sketchy. Nobody got killed or anything while you were there? Not on my, not in my section. but in other sections of the jail people got killed yeah um how many in my since the whole time i was there like i'd say like two or three you know but um i don't know the craziest thing i saw in jail probably probably some of this i bought an ounce of weed you bought an ounce of wheel that was the last thing i would buy if i was in jail for weed i bought an ounce of weed Were you worried about they going to piss test you or anything? No, no. Well, the guards brought it in, so I figured how might be in trouble for this if the guards are bringing it.

2:06:35That's crazy. The guards sold you weed. That is wild. How much is an ounce of weed in Mexico? About$300. It's crazy, bro. You could pay for girls to come in, bro. Really? Yeah. They have like a menu. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. And you can't get a steak? I'd be like, keep the ladies. Can you get me a ribeye? Yeah. Dude, we had a barbecue one time. Yeah? Yeah, we had a fucking, we literally had like a barbecue. It was like, well, not on a grill, but when I first got there, we had like these hot plates. And the leader would always like do stuff for the whole tier. you know like he'll always like oh today we you know like every once in a while say like once or twice a week maybe um nah not once or twice a week i said like once or twice maybe uh and every couple weeks like we'll get like pizza like the order pizzas and yeah dude and and and for like i think like a thousand five hundred the you could like order a chick bro like a thousand like a thousand bucks for like a thousand five hundred something like that and they'll put you in the conjugal in the conjugal rooms with some random chick and you could you know have your time with her for like three four hours something like that so you could basically if you have money and influence you could kind of do anything in there yeah i mean if you got if you got money you'll you'll be okay i guess yeah as okay as you're gonna be in a tijuana of jail yeah but i mean you're still locked in a cell i mean we would only go we only get um two days of yard for one one and a hour and a half you know an hour and a half and the whole time i spent it running wow trying to run trying to keep my my cardio up and it was crazy dude because i was like the only dude out there like working out you know and and honestly by the time i left I had everybody like working out running or or like doing some kind of like it was it was crazy how how I I uh my just me working out and doing like my daily thing just like affected other people you know like sure yeah I was like how I remember like I would have like I would come out to on the tier, and I'd be doing workouts with dudes right there.

2:09:13And like I said, there's a couple dudes in there that are some dogs. And yeah, hopefully if they do get out. Can they contact you if they get out? Do you have your information? Yeah, I'm still in contact with them. That's cool. Hopefully you can get them set up, man. Did you get the picture in? Oh my god, yeah. I'll send it to you right now. Send it to me. I'll send it to Jamie. The world needs to see this. Wow. Is it crazy looking at it? Yeah.

2:09:51Did you send it? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

2:09:58Here we go. Waiting for it to come in here. But yeah, man. So you said a few people got killed. Did you know those people? No. No, I didn't know. Oh, my God. This picture is crazy. Yeah, when stuff like that happens, there's obviously like you hear because, oh, you know what? A lot of dudes were overdosing in there. Really? Yeah. From fentanyl? I think so, bro. A lot of dudes were in there like doing heroin and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that picture's crazy though, huh? It is crazy. Yeah, and then, like, it's crazy, dude. It's crazy how I've bounced back from that. Yeah, it is. Wow, you look so thin.

2:10:47Yeah, dude. Just malnourishment at its finest, bro. Oh, my God. Yeah, you look like a dude who's just getting out of prison. That's what you look like. Yeah, so that's the first. What do you got, a burrito there? Some tacos. So that's like right after I had the burger. I only took like two bites of those tacos. I was like, yo, I'm full. I imagine. Your stomach must have been super shrunk. But yeah, you could see where you lost all your muscle mass. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so to bounce back from that and to be in decent shape right now. How many guys died of overdose while you were there? About three or four of them.

2:11:27Damn. So you could kind of get anything you want, really, in jail. Yeah. Any kind of drug. Could you get steroids? I don't think so. I try to get protein. Protein powder? Yeah. Yeah, some protein powder, but it was never able to happen. That's crazy. They get you heroin, no problem. Yeah. Protein powder? Oh, that's kind of an issue. Yeah. That's ridiculous. That's crazy. Yeah. I had turned myself into, like, a little gym, man. I was, like, just trying to stay busy, man. And I always told myself, like, man, there's got to be some way that is going to work out for me, you know. And, you know, I ended up having to, you know, pay a nice amount of money, you know, to be here today.

2:12:18It was a lot, bro. I'm sure. We'll talk about that later. Listen, I'm glad you got out. You know, I had only heard about it maybe a few months ago. I'd heard about it like, I want to say three, four months ago. Because someone had asked where you were. Like, you know, someone saying, you know who we haven't seen in a while is D-Rod. And then someone said, dude, I heard he's locked up in Tijuana. And I was like, oh, no. Like, what? That could be it forever. You hear someone's locked up in a Mexican jail. You're like, that could be it forever. never hear from you again. Yeah, man. I'm so happy to be out, dude.

2:12:59I can only imagine. Yeah, I can only imagine. I mean, listen, it's, you don't appreciate the sunshine until you experience a lot of rain. Unfortunately, that's how people operate. You know, you get real accustomed to things being great, and then you don't feel good about it anymore. You need like a little bit of that in your life sometimes just a little bit of a wake-up call to let you realize like you should be so happy and so thankful that you get to experience this life especially the way you're experiencing it i mean what a dream to go from being a guy who's in and out of jail fucking up your whole life to being a top 15 ufc welterweight contender and arguably one of the toughest divisions in the sport if not the toughest i mean the ufc welterweight division is fucking crazy yeah you got carlos protest you got sean brady you got morales you know yeah dude and before i got arrested we we were i was gonna fight protest wow i would have fought him in brazil whoo yeah that would have been wild yeah dude and yeah i mean it's crazy to see like how the division has changed like right now the top five dudes are it's ian gary protest morales um makachev's champion and it's completely top it's completely like different now from from from when i when i got arrested you know did you see the uh jdm protest fight uh no i wasn't able to see that protest looks so good he's he's so clever that's a tricky striker man yeah and he's so long so long for the weight class it's almost like his arms belong to a dude who's seven feet tall you know what i mean like his arms and legs are so long he's so slick yeah when i um when i first got released um we were we were planning to fight leon edwards yeah but um i think it would have been july 11th and that would have been way too It would have been too soon, you know.

2:15:08But, I mean, the August fight's a couple weeks after that. That's a big factor, though. Those couple weeks when you're dealing with, like, your body recovering from what you've been through, August sounds right. July sounds early. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm going to be ready, bro. I'm going to be in super good shape. and and I just got I just trust all the work that's ahead of me all the work that I have lined up and and and all the recovery and and just just like like like I said man like just appreciating Everything you know my like my life bro to I've been out of jail before and no one ever gave a fuck You know like now I'm out and I have these amazing opportunities and I'm sitting here talking to you bro Well, and more importantly, you got a big fight coming up.

2:16:01So that's very exciting. I'm very happy for you, brother. I can't imagine what you went through. I can't imagine what it felt like. Wondering if you're ever going to get out, you know, and thank God you had the resources and you knew the right people. And they figured out how to do it and turn you into a Mexican. Yeah. That dual citizenship. That's wild. Yeah. Well, I can't wait to hear all about it off air. But congratulations on getting out. I look forward to your fight. I'm really pumped. I'm really pumped for you. I'm very happy. Very happy you're out. Yeah, man. Biggest fight of my life coming up, man.

2:16:36Just embracing all the work and just everything, bro. Just everything. I'm living the whole process. Well, I can't wait to see the fight. So congratulations. I know the people are rooting for you. So thank you for being here, man. It was a lot of fun. Hey, thanks for having me, bro. My pleasure. My pleasure. All right. Bye, everybody.

2:17:07We'll see you next time.