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Podcast Episode Notes: The Journal - "Is NYC’s Mayoral Race All About Rent?"
Episode Overview
- Hosts: Ryan Knutson and Jessica Mendoza
- Guest: Rebecca Picciotto
- Date: June 27, 2023
- Focus: The impact of housing affordability on the NYC mayoral race, particularly surrounding candidate Zohran Mamdani's platform.
Key Points
Introduction
- Zohran Mamdani: A Democratic socialist candidate who gained popularity among young voters by focusing on affordable housing and proposing a rent freeze.
- Election Context: Mamdani's unexpected victory over Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic primary has sent shockwaves through the NYC real estate sector.
NYC Housing Crisis
- Majority Renters: New York City is predominantly made up of renters, with over half considered rent-burdened.
- Rising Costs: Rents have increased by 20% over the past five years; the median rent for a two-bedroom apartment is now approximately $5,500.
- Vacancy Rates: NYC's vacancy rates have reached a record low of 1.4%, causing intense competition in the rental market.
Mamdani’s Campaign Strategy
- Focus on Affordability: Mamdani emphasized housing costs in his messaging, particularly appealing to young, rent-stressed voters.
- Proposals:
- Rent Freeze: Aimed at preventing rent increases on stabilized units.
- New Housing Units: Commitment to build 200,000 new publicly subsidized housing units.
- Investment in Housing: Proposing a $70 billion investment to enhance affordable housing availability.
Impact on Real Estate Industry
- Reactions from Landlords: The real estate sector is concerned about Mamdani's proposals, particularly the rent freeze, fearing it may impact their operating revenues.
- Landlord Concerns: Increased operational costs, regulatory pressures from previous rent control laws, and a challenging development environment are causing distress among landlords.
Strategies of the Real Estate Industry
- Post-Primary Strategies:
- Some developers are contemplating relocating to more business-friendly markets.
- Many are seeking to strengthen their lobbying efforts in preparation for the November election.
- There is potential for collaboration with Mamdani if he wins, particularly on easing housing development restrictions.
Challenges Ahead for Mamdani
- Balancing Act: As a candidate, Mamdani needs to maintain his appeal to young voters while also courting the real estate industry, which is critical for his potential administration.
- Political Brand: His self-identified socialist stance may alienate some powerful stakeholders in the real estate sector.
Broader Implications
- National Housing Conversation: The episode highlights a larger trend in the U.S. where housing affordability is becoming a key political issue across various elections.
Key Takeaways
- Housing Affordability: This remains a pressing issue for voters, especially in urban settings, and is becoming instrumental in political campaigns.
- Real Estate Dynamics: The tension between housing advocates and the real estate industry reflects broader economic and social challenges in many cities.
- Future of NYC: The outcome of the NYC mayoral election could set precedents for how urban housing issues are addressed nationwide.
Further Listening
- Explore related episodes:
- "How Eric Adams Became New York City’s First Indicted Mayor"
- "The Rise of the Yimbys"
- "The Downfall of a Real Estate Empire"
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Additional Notes
- The importance of affordable housing in NYC's political landscape can serve as a model for other cities facing similar challenges.
- Understanding the interplay between political candidates and industry stakeholders is crucial for comprehending electoral outcomes in urban areas.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Every year, on January 1st, a gaggle of cold-hardy New Yorkers rings in the new year by plunging into the ice-cold ocean at Coney Island. All right, we're going in. We're ready to go. This year, they had a politician jumping in with them, a then-little-known mayoral candidate and Democratic socialist named Zahran Mamdani. He belly-flopped into the frigid water, suit and tie and all, and made a promise. I'm freezing. You're a wreck as the next mayor of New York City. Let's plunge into the details.
0:41Mamdani was campaigning on a platform of affordability across many sectors, but at the top of his list, it was a promise to bring down housing costs for renters. That's our colleague Rebecca Pachoto. She covers real estate. New York is a majority renter city, so railing against high rent cost has been a campaign formula for decades of New York City mayors. And this was no different except that the affordability problem in New York has grown even more dire and renters are feeling it quite viscerally. Tapping into that frustration helped Mamdani pull off a surprise victory in this week's Democratic mayoral primary.
1:20We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for a city they can afford.
1:28A city where they can do more than just struggle. Mamdani's strong showing puts him in a good position to win the general election in November. And that's energized many young voters struggling to make it in one of the most expensive cities in the world. But there's one powerful group that's not so thrilled with Mamdani's success. Developers and landlords are in panic mode in the days since Mamdani's primary victory. They're basically freaking out.
2:01Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Annie Minhoff. It's Friday, June 27th.
2:14Coming up on the show, how New York City's housing crisis is shaping its race for mayor.
2:36Housing affordability has become a crisis in cities across the country. But the problem is especially acute in New York City. Housing costs in New York City have notoriously been some of the highest in the country. More than half of the city's renters are considered rent burdened, which means they pay more than the recommended 30 percent of their income on housing. Rising rents contribute to that. In the past five years, rents in the city have risen by 20 percent, according to RealPage, to the point where New York's median rent is out of reach for many. At least for the monthly prices of a two-bedroom rental in New York, a recent estimate found that's now standing at about$5 ,500, which is a pretty exorbitant price.
3:22$5 ,500 for a two-bedroom. Correct. And, you know, a lot of these two-bedrooms are being hunted out by 20-somethings with entry-level wages. And, you know, you're only lucky enough to pay that rent if you actually get the place, right? What does the apartment search look like here in New York? It's sort of cutthroat.
3:45Cutthroat, because as in many big cities, there are a lot of people who want apartments and not much supply. In New York City, vacancy rates dropped to a record 1.4 percent in recent years, the lowest since 1968. That's turned apartment hunting into a full-contact sport. It is wild out here. It is like the Hunger Games trying to find an apartment. Everyone and their mom tells me that apartment hunting in New York is super competitive. And yeah, they're right. I have exhausted every single platform. Facebook Marketplace, Spare Room, Listings Project, Craigslist, Trulia. Renters spend hours browsing online housing marketplaces.
4:23And if they find a listing they like, they'll often attend an open house. That's right, an open house for a rental. Lines for these open houses can snake around the block. I'm definitely not going to see it because this is the line for the open house. Nah. No, thank you. And often it's you go to the open house and you think the picture on Street Easy looks good and you go and the two bedroom apartment, actually one of the bedrooms is a closet. So, yeah, I mean, I think. It's like this looked so spacious online. What magic did they work to make this shoebox look like an actual livable apartment?
5:03Yeah. Those lucky enough to find a place often have to sell themselves to landlords and potential roommates to actually land it. People write letters and share photographs to stand out in their rental applications. I am in the process of apartment hunting. And tell me why this application is asking for a cover letter. This is not a job. I would think renters are in, you know, these Facebook groups where they're basically branding themselves and, you know, campaigning to be the roommate of a complete stranger who happens to have an open bedroom in Bed-Stuy. And so they're, you know, carefully curating their Facebook posts, you know, message themselves as the perfect roommate and have friendly looking selfies.
5:45And it's become a little bit more of a, as one renter described, a pageant contest than an apartment hunt. Meanwhile, landlords' profits for buildings with rent-stabilized units were up 12 percent between 2022 and 2023, according to the city's most recent report. So how did Mamdani tap into this widespread frustration over housing in his campaign? So he put cost and affordability at the center of his messaging. And he was on TikTok and Instagram, like specifically targeting young voters with fuzzy proposals like rent freezes. The number one cost in New Yorkers life when they're thinking about that is housing.
6:26About two and a half million New Yorkers live in rent stabilized housing across New York City. Their rent increases are set by the mayor. This mayor has jacked their rent up 9 percent. I would freeze their rent. A rent freeze would make it illegal for landlords to raise rents on stabilized units. It would apply to about a million apartments in New York City. That's about half of the city's rental stock. Mamdani also has other proposals to try to make housing more affordable. For example, by building more units. He's promising to build 200 ,000 new publicly subsidized housing units, invest$70 billion in new capital for affordable housing.
7:07The rent freeze in particular seemed to resonate with people, especially young rent-strap voters. I want Zoran Mondani to be the next mayor. He wants to make it more affordable to live in New York City. I like that he cares about affordability, which honestly I think for me is the biggest issue in the city right now. Ultimately, these voters want to feel relief as soon as possible. And so that's why something like a rent freeze, you know, that's gotten a lot more attention than some of his other kind of longer-term proposals. The sort of appeal to young voters propelled him to the front of the race and kind of turned him from an unknown name into potentially the city's next mayor.
7:46But talk of a rent freeze sent a chill through the real estate industry, which had largely backed Mamdani's top competitor, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. New York landlords are especially upset. Rebecca's been on the phone with a number of them. The rent freeze does scare them. Landlords say that this is something that will suffocate their operating revenue, make it harder to keep up these rent-stabilized units, which are already dealing with some of the fallout of a 2019 rent law that capped rent increases on these units. In 2019, New York State passed legislation that imposed stronger limits on how much landlords can increase rents and made it easier for tenants to sue landlords for overcharging them.
8:28So landlords are still reeling from all the rent regulation they have to deal with. So, you know, campaigning on a rent freeze as your top line housing proposal, it scared a lot of people away for those reasons. Because it sounds like the landlords are saying, you can freeze the rent, but what about our costs? Who's going to freeze those? Exactly. And, you know, with tariffs and deportations, putting strain on material costs and labor, their costs are primed to increase even more. and if they can't raise their rents in kind, that's what's scaring a lot of them. And since Momdani's win, that fear has led the real estate industry to mobilize.
9:10What their options are is coming up.
9:31In the days since Mamdani's primary victory, Rebecca says the real estate industry's big players have been plotting their next moves. What are their options? Yeah, I mean, in the course of the past few days, you know, it's early, so there's not a five-point plan just yet. That said, a lot of developers are, some are threatening to exit the New York market and expand in places they see as more business friendly, like Miami, Dallas. But relocating your business is an expensive thing to do. So a lot of people are committed to staying in the market and instead they're shopping around for new candidates.
10:11One option is backing the current mayor of New York, Eric Adams, who's running as an independent candidate. I have spoken to developers who are setting up meetings with Mayor Adams. On Wednesday afternoon, more than a dozen real estate and tech leaders met to kind of discuss the path forward. You know, they didn't come to a decision ultimately, but phones are ringing off the hook and people are figuring out, you know, how do we strengthen the lobbying machine for November? What about the idea of trying to work with Mom Donnie to cut some deals? Yeah, there are certainly people who, you know, if the momentum behind Mom Donnie stays at the pace that it's at, and if he kind of stays on a glide path to win the November general election, they are coming to terms with the fact that they will want to strike some deals.
11:02And as they're setting up meetings with Mayor Adams, they're also setting up meetings with Mom Donnie's team to say, you know, like, make your pitch. I see. So they're weighing fight, flight, or deal. Perfect way to put it.
11:19It's possible that Mamdani could find some common ground with the industry, especially developers. That's because they all agree on at least one thing. New York City needs more apartments. And right now, they're too hard to build. There's a couple of sort of unique features of the New York development market. One is there's just limited land in desirable spots, you know, near transit and downtown hubs and things like that. But there's also this complex network of zoning policies that further limit the amount of housing units you can build. So even if you find the land you want, you might not be able to build the, you know, 200 unit apartment building that you want.
11:57Then there's a lot of sort of high construction costs that go along with very particular building codes and regulations that New York has. Tariffs and deportations could exacerbate those further. And then when you maybe get your apartment built, the operational costs can be pretty heavy and property taxes in New York are also pretty high. So all of those factors make it difficult for some of these projects to pencil out, and that has ultimately stifled supply in the market. Developers have been talking about these challenges for years. And some of Mamdani's less talked about proposals do aim to make development easier.
12:36He wants to open up government-owned land for housing development, and fast-track these land use reviews that are so burdensome to developers. He wants to streamline zoning rules, eliminate parking minimums, which means that developers wouldn't have to build parking spaces to get their projects approved by the city. So he has a lot of less sexy supply-side solutions that are actually some of the long-held wishes of the development community. The zoning reform, faster land use reviews, reduced parking spaces for project approvals, freeing up public land for housing. These are all things that developers would likely get on board with.
13:13You know, I think they could work out some deals here. Has Momdani said anything about kind of his willingness to work with the industry? Yeah, I mean, he's said that he's willing, he sees the value of and the need for kind of private sector development to, you know, fill this housing gap that the public sector just might not have the capacity to do on its own. So he's absolutely looking at the private sector as a partner here. Whether they want to partner back, that's up to the coming months. So there is some nuance to Momdani's actual policies and positions on housing. Nevertheless, there's this very real image problem in the eyes of the real estate industry, and that's that New York has just voted for a socialist who wants to freeze rents.
14:04Yeah. In the months ahead of the November election, Mom Donnie is going to have an uphill battle to win over some of the city's most important power players. And it's mainly because of this political brand that actually won him young voters in the primary. So in the months ahead, as far as Mom Donnie's platform, The challenge is going to be balancing this political brand, not necessarily overhauling his policies. You know, again, the Democratic Socialist messaging that won him this crucial young voter base in the primary, that's what's scaring away the real estate community that he's likely going to need for the general.
14:39So that's the balance here. That's the challenge that he has in the coming months. I would imagine there are many lessons that one could take from this primary election, but it certainly seems like one of them is housing affordability is really, really important to people. And is that just in New York City? No. I mean, we saw this in the presidential campaign that on the national level, as housing costs were skyrocketing and becoming an even larger portion of voters' budgets, politicians put it at the front of their platforms. like housing has always been a high cost for people, but it's become sort of a visceral, emotional thing for voters.
15:18You know, you feel it in your monthly budget. And as a result, politicians are looking for ways to speak to those affordability issues. You know, the cost of living has become a national political conversation. And the biggest part of those costs are often housing.
15:52The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting by Redmond Bernhold, Peter Grant, Maggie Grether, and Greg Ip.
16:30The show is made by Riley. Additional music this week from Peter Leonard, Hayley Shaw, Nathan Singapak, Griffin Tanner, and Blue Dot Sessions. Fact-checking this week by Jennifer Gorin, Najwa Jamal, and Mary Mathis. Thanks for listening. See you Monday.
From the publisher
NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani has won over legions of rent-strapped young voters with a platform focused on making housing more affordable — including by freezing rents. This week he cleared an important hurdle, winning the Democratic primary in an upset of former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. But his success has panicked the New York real estate industry, which is now in a mad scramble to assess its options. WSJ’s Rebecca Picciotto explains how the city’s housing crisis is driving the election. Annie Minoff hosts.
Further Listening:
-How Eric Adams Became New York City’s First Indicted Mayor
-The Rise of the Yimbys
-The Downfall of a Real Estate Empire
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