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Podcast Overview Title: The Journal Hosts: Ryan Knutson and Jessica Mendoza Description: The Journal explores significant stories about money, business, and power, co-produced by Spotify and The Wall Street Journal.
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Episode Summary Episode Title: The Epic Mess at TGI Fridays Episode Release Date: January 24, 2023
The episode discusses the decline of TGI Fridays, a once-iconic casual dining chain known for its cocktails and family-friendly dining, culminating in a bankruptcy filing in November 2022. The narrative is supported by insights from WSJ's Heather Haddon and former CEO Ray Blanchett, who reflect on the chain's challenges and future prospects.
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Key Themes and Discussions
Historical Context
- Rise of TGI Fridays:
- Founded in 1965, initially a singles bar in New York City.
- Gained fame for its vibrant atmosphere, cocktails, and comfort food.
- Became emblematic of casual dining in America.
- Cultural References:
- The episode contrasts the portrayal of TGI Fridays in films like *Cocktail* (1988) and *Office Space* (1999), illustrating its cultural significance and decline.
Current State of TGI Fridays
- Business Decline:
- Experienced a sharp reduction in locations, down from approximately 800 to about 150.
- Filed for bankruptcy amid management instability and financial struggles.
- Market Changes:
- Casual dining chains are losing customers to fast-casual dining options (e.g., Chipotle).
- Shift in consumer dining preferences, particularly among younger demographics.
Management and Leadership
- CEO Transition:
- TGI Fridays went through multiple CEO changes, indicating internal turmoil.
- Ray Blanchett returned to the company in a critical time, having previously led its expansion before stepping down in 2007.
- Challenges Faced by Blanchett:
- Undercover Boss Appearance: Blanchett's attempt to assess employee morale and restaurant standards through a reality TV show.
- Friction with private equity investors regarding strategic initiatives, including the introduction of sushi, which was poorly received.
Strategic Vision for the Future
- Blanchett's Plans:
- Focus on smaller, streamlined menus and shorter operating hours.
- Targeting locations in transportation hubs and hotels for more strategic placements.
- Plans for international expansions, particularly in Asia, to capture emerging markets.
- Cultural Rebuilding:
- Emphasis on establishing a strong internal culture and values as a key to the turnaround.
- Acknowledgment that TGI Fridays must adapt without losing its identity.
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Key Takeaways
- Lessons from TGI Fridays:
- Reflects the broader challenges faced by vintage American dining brands in adapting to changing consumer preferences.
- Highlights the importance of maintaining brand identity while innovating to meet market demands.
- Future Outlook:
- Ray Blanchett's commitment to revitalizing TGI Fridays underscores hopes for a potential turnaround, though significant obstacles remain.
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Further Listening
- Related Episodes:
- Red Lobster's New CEO Plots Its Comeback
- McDonald’s Wants To Offer Quality And Value. Can It Do Both?
Further Reading
- [The Epic Mess at TGI Fridays](https://wsj.com)
- [TGI Fridays Ex-CEO Blanchette to Take Over Chain’s Management](https://wsj.com)
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Conclusion This episode of The Journal provides a comprehensive look into the challenges facing TGI Fridays, blending historical insights with contemporary business analysis, and sets the stage for discussions on the future of the brand amidst changing consumer habits.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04The story of how the casual restaurant chain TGI Fridays has shifted in American culture can, in some ways, be told through two movies. First, the 1988 film Cocktail.
0:21A young Tom Cruise, at the height of his cool, starred as a college dropout who becomes a bartender. You know how to make a red eye, Mr. What's-your-name? Brian Flanagan. No, I'm sorry I haven't had the pleasures yet. Tom Cruise's character learns how to mix drinks like a pro, doing flashy tricks as he makes cocktails. And some scenes were filmed at a Friday's, which at the time was considered a gold standard of mixology. The second film came out over a decade later. Hey, guys. Office Space. What's up, G? Want to go to Tchotchke's? Get some coffee? Part of the movie takes place in a restaurant that's a lot like TGI Fridays, called Tchotchke's.
1:02It sits in a nondescript strip mall and has a big wooden bar and antique Tiffany lampshades. But there's never many customers, and the staff is totally annoying. So can I get you, gentlemen, something more to drink or maybe something to nibble on? Some pizza shooters, shrimp poppers, or extreme fajitas? Just coffee. Okay. Sounds like a case of the Mondays. One of the characters, a server played by Jennifer Aniston, hates working there. If you want me to wear 37 pieces of flair like your pretty boy over there, Brian, why don't you just make the minimum 37 pieces of flair? Well, fine. But between these two extremes, TGI Fridays earned a solid place in American culture.
1:45TGI Fridays is known for its bar, for its comfort food, for its appetizers, stuffed potato skins, and a place to meet people. Maybe have a happy hour after work. Maybe bring your kids. That's our colleague Heather Hadden, who covers restaurants. Sum up for us what's happening at TGI Fridays today. Yeah, so TGI Friday's is to some degree emblematic of a lot of casual dining restaurants right now we're going through, which is tough times. These vintage, historically very popular restaurants now just aren't popular like they were previously. And TGI Friday's is a particularly egregious example of that.
2:29Now, after cycling through multiple CEOs and running behind on millions of dollars in bills, TGI Fridays has declared bankruptcy. It's down to about 150 restaurants from a high of about 800 more than a decade ago. And the company is struggling to find a way forward. So it's pretty safe to say TGI Fridays is not in a good place right now. TGI Fridays is definitely not in a good place. It is not a happy, happy hour place for now.
3:01Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Jessica Mendoza. It's Friday, January 24th.
3:14Coming up on the show, will TGI Fridays survive to see more Fridays?
3:37We'll be right back.
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4:27TGI Fridays often gets credit as one of the first singles bars in New York City. It opened in 1965, and its founder, Alan Stillman's original idea, was to create a place where single people, people like him, could go for drinks after work and mingle. Here's Stillman years later in an interview on CBS. Is it fair to say you got into the business because you wanted to meet women? Absolutely fair. Not only fair, but accurate and true. And it worked. But the Fridays that we know today comes from when the company had already started expanding and opening up franchises. Fridays created its iconic look in the 1970s.
5:13Faux antique Tiffany lamps, a big raised wooden bar at the center of the restaurant, and a focus on cocktails that evolved into what was known as a, quote, drink Bible. The bartenders learned tricks, and they hosted regular bartender Olympics. Friday's also claims to have invented the Long Island iced tea. The food was classic barfare. Cheeseburgers, Caesar salad, onion rings. Out here, it's Monday. In here, it's Friday. One of its restaurants was in Philadelphia. That's where a man named Ray Blanchett developed an obsession with TGI Fridays. I still remember vividly the first time I saw a platter of baby back ribs, right?
5:57I mean, it's like the length of the entire platter, and then you get this big pile of fresh-cut french fries, you get this big pile of coleslaw, and then you get the apple butter barbecue sauce. And I just, I remember watching it go by, and I thought, my God, that is one of the most beautiful plates of food I've ever seen. Ray was hired in 1989 as TGI Fridays was on the rise Ray would go on to become CEO but when he started out he was a 23 year old manager in training and when he walked in the door to that Philadelphia restaurant he couldn't believe what he saw People are yelling back and forth everybody had to be where they were supposed to be at the right time where you dropped the ball and so it was like a Cirque du Soleil show back there in the kitchen I mean, it was crazy.
6:45And we would have people literally lined up down the entire front side of the building. We had theater ropes, and you'd have to go out there at 115-ish, usually, and say, you know, from this point in the line back, you're not going to get in tonight. You know, being three and four deep was an everyday occurrence. Ray was hooked. He climbed up the ranks, eventually leading the company's expansion into Europe and other overseas locations. Back when I was running Europe, it was literally six years or seven years after the wall came down. Like the Berlin Wall. All the former Soviet bloc countries were emerging markets for us.
7:29I opened three restaurants in Poland in 12 months. I opened the first restaurants in Russia and the Czech Republic and Hungary. And it was just, it was fascinating. For the record, as a kid in the Philippines, I loved going to Fridays. It's funny because I grew up in Manila and my family and I would go to TGI Fridays. It was one of the restaurants on our rotation after church. And I used to, as a kid, order the cup of dirt a lot. Oh, yeah. It was the one with like, it was like a mudslide with like gummy worms. I thought it was so cool that it looked like dirt. Chocolate pudding, Oreo crumbs, and gummy worms kind of leeching out a little bit.
8:10Yeah. What's your favorite meal or favorite cocktail at the restaurant? Long Island iced tea. Yeah. I can't say that I drink a lot of Long Island iced teas, but I think if I was going to tell somebody, what cocktail should you have if you're going to Fridays for the first time? Well, you got to have an LIT. Ray's passion for TGI Fridays kept him at the company for nearly 20 years, though he would step away in 2007. By then, Fridays was at its peak, hitting$2 billion in U.S. sales alone in 2008. The company's rapid growth caught the attention of two private equity firms, Sentinel Capital Partners and Triartisan Capital Advisors.
8:57Together, they bought TGI Fridays in 2014. Why are private equity investors interested in companies like TGI Fridays? Well, one great thing about restaurants is they generate a lot of cash. So they have steady cash flows, and especially if they're managed well, you know, there's money coming in and there's money coming to the company. And that is great for private equity and other investors. And also, when these private equity firms came in, they really pushed to shift TGI Fridays from an ownership model of its restaurants to having franchisees run its restaurants. And that's really helpful for the company in that it makes for this asset-light model.
9:38Companies that rely on franchisees are enticing to private equity because it reduces the risk for the owners. So the franchisees are taking on a lot of the potential reward and also risk of running these restaurants, and they pay royalties to the owners. So it helps kind of reduce some of the risk and liability for the company that owns them and helps them to grow. You know, hopefully these franchisees are invested in their restaurants and growing their restaurants and making them successful. And that benefits the parent company.
10:13But by the 2010s, the market was shifting. Chains like TGI Fridays were losing customers to fast casual restaurants. like Chipotle, where people could order fresh food at the counter and take it to go. And that change was bad news for TGI Fridays. By 2018, sales at existing locations were in a nearly two-year funk. It was then that Friday's financial managers turned to the old guard and called up Ray Blanchett. When Ray got the offer, he couldn't have been more excited. The private equity group that had bought Fridays called me and said, hey, would you be willing to come back to TGI Fridays? We're in kind of a situation.
10:55I mean, to me, it was a job of a lifetime. It was my dream job, so I was happy to come back. But Ray quickly saw that the Fridays he returned to was very different from the one he'd left.
11:10That's after the break.
11:25Ray Blanchett had been away from TGI Fridays for about a decade. And in that time, things had changed. To find out just how much, Ray took an unorthodox approach. In 2019, months after becoming CEO, he appeared on the reality TV show Undercover Boss. Today, I'm undercover in my own company, TGI Fridays, to make sure our strict standards are being upheld. Ray posed as a man looking to start a new career. He wore a blonde wig and a fake goatee. In the episode, he trained in a restaurant in Maryland. The bartender there pointed to a hole in the ceiling. We had a massive flood, and this collapsed in the middle of shift.
12:05The roof has to be completely leveled out. But the waiting on the corporate approval part is just, it's a pain in the ass. What were some of the things that stood out to you that you saw when you were on that show? You know, I grew up in a TGI Fridays that was fanatical about standards. I mean, there would never be broken equipment. There would never be a leaky roof that didn't get rectified immediately. The standard was set at every level in the organization. And so when you see that we'd allowed the business to not adhere to those same high standards, that was distressing. As CEO, Ray and his team tried to turn Fridays around.
12:50But he says he had a different vision from the owners. They were more committed to some of these initiatives that I was less excited about. And it's their ball in their field, so they get to decide. But, you know, I wasn't going to compromise my integrity or pretend that, you know, that I believe in these initiatives anymore. What were some of those initiatives? Like sushi inside the restaurant. Yeah, I just thought it was ridiculous. Some customers seem to feel the same way, and said so on social media. Y 'all, TGI Fridays has sushi. I decided to try their sushi. You see that? It was disgusting.
13:28Who's eating this? I just want to know. It tastes foul. What the f*** is this? What the f*** is that? Triartisan, the private equity firm, said that sushi was part of an effort to adapt with the times and become more relevant. And it's said that Ray supported the sushi addition. Ray maintains that he did not.
13:51Sushi sabotage or not, what really hurt Fridays was the pandemic. Despite beefing up its takeout operations in 2020, the company couldn't hit its sales targets. In 2023, Ray left Fridays again. Three other CEOs followed in quick succession. And things just continued to unravel. Here's our colleague Heather again. It's a combination of T.J.R. Friday's own issues and also casual dining generally has really been struggling. And so they just couldn't rebuild in the way they had hoped. And from what I understand, there was friction between those CEOs and the board about correct approaches going forward.
14:31And here we are in bankruptcy. Ray was watching from the sidelines or sort of the sidelines. he just couldn't truly quit Fridays. Not long after he left, he had acquired eight TGI Fridays franchises. When TGI Fridays filed for bankruptcy, he saw an opportunity to swoop in and revive the chain. Now he's getting that chance. Ray is back at the company and is now responsible for managing hundreds of TGI Fridays worldwide. And his plan doesn't involve returning to the glory days. Instead, he's focusing on smaller menus and shorter hours. And he wants to put Fridays in transportation hubs, like train stations and airports, and in hotels, places where there's a captive audience.
15:18When you walk into a hotel and you're checking in at 9 o 'clock at night and you look over and you see that it's a Friday's cafe or Friday's grill, whatever you call it, it's a relief because now you know your rental car is parked. You can trust that you're going to get a good hamburger. And you don't have to leave. Ray also says that the future of Fridays isn't just in the U.S. His plan includes being aggressive about expanding overseas. Internationally, we're still signing new development agreements. We have 30 restaurants in Manila. Well, we have zero restaurants in Bangkok, right? So when I think of South and Southeast Asia, there's nothing in Vietnam.
15:59There's hardly anything in India. We still have big opportunity. We're not in Singapore. I mean, there are a lot of places for us to continue to grow with the right partners. And so you're going to be the guy to save the company? Is that how you feel right now? I'm going to be the guy that brings the people together that change the trajectory of the business. I mean, if I haven't learned anything over 30 years, I've certainly learned that our brand is expressed through people. This is a labor-intensive business, and the culture and the values and sort of establishing the white lines in the road for how we're going to interact, that's a really important piece of any turnaround, but especially at Fridays.
16:45It starts culturally within the Fridays family. I asked Ray if he was worried about Fridays not being cool anymore. You should be in one of my restaurants at 10 o 'clock at night. You'd have a hard time saying this place isn't fun. I mean, cool, I think, is ridiculous, right? You can't chase cool. I mean, who would be, James Dean? I mean, people are going to, you know, we're not trying to be cool. We have food that people get excited about. We have an atmosphere that is conducive to social interactions and social connections. And so that's why I think the brand gets turned around. What's the lesson from TGI Friday's Rise and Fall?
17:33I think TGI Friday's is a lesson on both casual dining and how much joy it has brought to America and how good of a concept it has been. But how challenging it is to keep these vintage brands going in a new America. I mean, I think taste of change and younger people don't see going out to eat at all sometimes is what they want to do. So I think we do see something emblematic in T.J.R. Fridays and how consumers eat out differently than they used to.
18:13That's all for today, Friday, January 24th. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and the Wall Street Journal. The show is made by Catherine Brewer, Pia Gadkari, Rachel Humphreys, Sophie Codner, Ryan Knudsen, Matt Kwong, Kate Linebaugh, Colin McNulty, Annie Minoff, Laura Morris, Enrique Perez de la Rosa, Sarah Platt, Alessandra Rizzo, Alan Rodriguez Espinosa, Heather Rogers, Pierce Singhe, Jivika Verma, Lisa Wang, Catherine Whalen, Tatiana Zamis, and me, Jessica Mendoza. with help from Trina Menino. Our engineers are Griffin Tanner, Nathan Singapok, and Peter Leonard. Our theme music is by So Wiley.
18:55Additional music this week from Emma Munger, Peter Leonard, Bobby Lord, Griffin Tanner, Nathan Singapok, and Blue Dot Sessions. Fact-checking by Mary Mathis, Kate Gallagher, and Najwa Jamal. Thanks for listening. See you on Monday.
From the publisher
An iconic chain that became known for its fun cocktails and family dining, TGI Fridays has seen a sharp decline in recent years, leading to a bankruptcy filing in November. WSJ’s Heather Haddon explains the company’s unraveling and a former CEO talks about his plans to keep the chain alive.
Further Listening:
- Red Lobster's New CEO Plots Its Comeback
- McDonald’s Wants To Offer Quality And Value. Can It Do Both?
Further Reading:
- The Epic Mess at TGI Fridays
- TGI Fridays Ex-CEO Blanchette to Take Over Chain’s Management
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