The Global Scramble for Patriot Missiles

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Podcast Title: The Journal Episode Title: The Global Scramble for Patriot Missiles Hosted by: Ryan Knutson and Jessica Mendoza Date: March 11, 2024 Description: This episode examines the urgent shortages of Patriot missile systems amidst the ongoing conflict in Iran and its implications for U.S. military readiness and Ukraine's defense capabilities.

Key Concepts

Current Crisis

  • Conflict in Iran: The U.S. and its allies are facing a significant problem as they deplete their arsenal of defense weapons, specifically interceptor missiles, faster than they can manufacture replacements.
  • Manufacturing Shortfalls: The rapid consumption of Patriot missile systems by U.S. allies and the ongoing conflict is creating a supply crunch, significantly impacting U.S. military capabilities globally.

Importance of Patriot Missile Systems

  • Historical Context: The Patriot missile system, developed during the Cold War, is crucial for countering aerial threats and has been a backbone of defense for Ukraine and U.S. allies.
  • Production Constraints: Lockheed Martin and Raytheon are struggling with production limits, with Lockheed producing approximately 600 missiles annually, while Ukraine reportedly needs around 60 missiles per month.

Ukraine's Defense Dilemma

  • Defensive Capabilities: Ukraine relies heavily on Patriot systems to protect against Russian missile and drone attacks. The war has turned the skies into a critical battlefield, with Ukraine facing daily bombardments.
  • Supply Challenges: The ongoing war in Iran complicates the situation further, as U.S. focus on aiding Gulf allies threatens Ukraine's access to necessary missile systems.

Discussions and Insights

U.S. Military-Industrial Complex

  • Contractual Dynamics: The production of military equipment is heavily influenced by government contracts. Without long-term contracts, companies are hesitant to invest in expanding capacity.
  • Economic and Manufacturing Challenges: There is a paradox in the military-industrial sector where demand exists, yet production capabilities lag due to reliance on government orders.

Responses from Adversaries

  • Observational Tactics: Adversaries, including China and Russia, are monitoring U.S. missile expenditures, understanding that a prolonged conflict could undermine U.S. defense capabilities.
  • Adaptation Strategies: In contrast to the U.S., countries like Iran and Russia are able to sustain their production capabilities, focusing their efforts on military development amid sanctions.

Future Considerations

  • Potential Solutions: Suggestions include increasing government contracts, stimulating competition in the defense sector, and adapting strategies to cope with a changing warfare landscape.
  • Reevaluating Military Strategy: The U.S. may need to rethink its approach to defense, focusing on maintaining adequate production levels and being prepared for asymmetric warfare.

Conclusion The episode highlights a critical intersection of military preparedness, industrial capacity, and geopolitical strategy, emphasizing the urgent need for the U.S. to address its production shortfalls in the face of evolving global threats. The situation in Ukraine is rendered increasingly precarious by these shortages, and the implications for U.S. foreign policy and military strategy are significant.

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Further Listening

  • Will Gas Prices Go Up Because of the Iran War?
  • Trump’s Shifting Reasons for War With Iran
  • What’s Next for Iran?

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The Urgent Problem of Missile Shortages

0:00 to 0:45

Learn about the rapid depletion of interceptor missiles in the context of the Iran conflict.

“has been running into an urgent problem.”

Impact of Missile Depletion on U.S. Strategy

0:45 to 2:12

Explore how the U.S. and its allies are responding to the depletion of missile interceptors in the ongoing conflict.

“There are only so many so-called interceptor missiles that you can buy on the market.”

The State of the War in Ukraine

4:16 to 7:24

Understand the current stalemate in Ukraine and the critical role of air defense systems.

“Basically, the war in Ukraine has been reduced to a stalemate, the like of which we've seen in the First World War.”

Challenges of Patriot Missile Production

7:24 to 8:38

Examine why American defense companies struggle to meet the demand for Patriot missiles.

“As for the missiles themselves, last year Lockheed Martin produced around 600 of its most advanced Patriot missiles.”

Ukraine's Hopes Amidst Missile Shortages

8:38 to 11:35

Discover Ukraine's urgent need for Patriot missiles amidst escalating threats.

“contracts, wouldn't these companies see that there's a lot more demand, and so therefore we should invest in our ability to make more?”

The Dynamics of Patriot Missiles and Adversarial Tactics

14:01 to 16:43

Learn how adversaries are exploiting the U.S. Patriot missile production shortcomings.

“The Chinese are using their satellites to observe every Patriot system in the area.”

U.S. Response to Missile Threats

16:43 to 18:22

Explore the U.S.'s strategies to counteract missile threats from Iran and Ukraine.

“And so we're aggressively pushing into that airspace over that southern flank to ensure that we control it and we destroy anything that moves that would attempt to shoot us.”

The Paradox of U.S. Military Sophistication

18:22 to 18:59

Understand the challenges faced by a highly sophisticated U.S. military in prolonged conflicts.

“We are in this era of asymmetric warfare where, you know, chips and whatever other elements required to produce a weapon like that are readily available everywhere in the world.”
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0:05Ryan Knutson:Since the war in Iran started, the U.S. has been running into an urgent problem. America and its allies are firing defense weapons faster than they can make them. Specifically, interceptor missiles that shoot down incoming airstrikes. The depletion is pretty rapid. How long it can last, and I think this is part of Iran's strategy, which is can they outlast us? You can't replace them overnight. You're not probably going to even be able to replace them this year. The U.S. and Israel are trying to wipe out Iran's missile capacity before they run out of missile interceptors. Our colleague, Boyan Pachevsky, has been looking into the issue.

0:45Bojan Pancevski:There are only so many so-called interceptor missiles that you can buy on the market. And Arab allies of the United States found themselves burning through their stockpiles very quickly because the barrages coming in from Iran were extremely intense.

1:06Ryan Knutson:In the first few days of the war, the U.S. and its allies fired hundreds of missile interceptors to repel Iranian attacks. That's led to a burn rate that's threatening to exhaust supplies.

1:17Bojan Pancevski:Problem is, it's not an issue of money, it's an issue of manufacturing. America is just not in the position to manufacture enough of these crucial missiles. That's kind of mind-boggling. It's a question of basically, is the new economy of war? And I think the U.S. is lagging behind.

1:39Ryan Knutson:The Department of Defense has said the U.S. does have enough weapons to achieve its goals in Iran. But the Persian Gulf isn't the only place that relies on these missiles. In fact, they're needed all over the world, especially in Ukraine.

1:54Bojan Pancevski:For Ukraine, that means that they will probably not have enough air defenses this year if this war in Iran continues. That's, you know, if you do the match, it looks pretty bad for them.

2:12Ryan Knutson:Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business and power. I'm Ryan Knudsen. It's Wednesday, March 11th.

2:25Ryan Knutson:Coming up on the show, the U.S. munitions shortage and what it means for Iran, Ukraine, and the rest of the world.

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4:15Ryan Knutson:Before the war in Iran began, what was the state of the war between Russia and Ukraine?

4:21Bojan Pancevski:Basically, the war in Ukraine has been reduced to a stalemate, the like of which we've seen in the First World War. So basically, the front line is frozen, so to speak. It's changed extremely little in the past two to three years.

4:35Ryan Knutson:Since the front lines on the ground are frozen, the skies above Ukraine have become the most important battlefield in the war.

4:42Bojan Pancevski:Russia has been producing huge amounts of attack drones and missiles. And this is the biggest problem for Ukraine. They are being bombarded pretty much every day, day in, day out. And the targets of this bombardment are not necessarily military targets, but they are essentially critical nodes of the infrastructure that keeps the country running. You know, heating, electricity, gas, oil, and stuff like that, which are extremely important

5:10Ryan Knutson:for the civilian population. To defend against these attacks, Ukraine has relied on a highly specialized weapon system manufactured in the United States. It's called the Patriot Interceptor System. The Patriot System was developed over half a century ago, during the Cold War.

5:28Bojan Pancevski:And essentially it's able to detect an incoming rocket very early to engage it with this radar system, and then it fires missiles towards it that shoot it down and prevent it from destroying its target. The Patriot system essentially fires missiles into incoming missiles. Experts describe this process as hitting a bullet with a bullet.

5:54Ryan Knutson:The Interceptor system, which includes the radar, the launcher, and the computers, is made by a defense company called Raytheon. The actual Patriot missiles are made by Lockheed Martin. Both are U.S. companies.

6:10Ryan Knutson:In Ukraine, Patriot missile interceptors form the backbone of the country's defenses. Throughout the war, Russia has been firing barrages of drones and ballistic missiles. According to Ukrainian and Western intelligence, Russia can manufacture around 80 ballistic missiles every month.

6:26Bojan Pancevski:Ballistic missiles are the biggest and most dangerous menace coming out of Russia. These are rockets, essentially, that fly high up in the atmosphere of the Earth and then fall down at many times the speed of sound. and they're extremely difficult to intercept. And they're extremely damaging when they hit a target. So it's practically impossible for Ukraine to defend itself from them unless they have enough Patriot missiles.

6:55Ryan Knutson:Over the past year, Ukraine has become desperate for more Patriot interceptor systems. And its allies in Europe have been buying more from the U.S. on its behalf. But the American companies that make these systems aren't making enough. In 2024, Germany ordered eight new Patriot systems for about 2 billion euros apiece, systems it plans to transfer to Ukraine. But German officials say they haven't gotten them yet, and they have no idea when they'll arrive. As for the missiles themselves, last year Lockheed Martin produced around 600 of its most advanced Patriot missiles. That works out to about 50 missiles a month.

7:34Ryan Knutson:Ukraine says it needs around 60 missiles per month to keep up with Russia. So even if every new missile went to Ukraine, it still wouldn't be enough.

7:46What is causing these delays?

7:49Ryan Knutson:Why aren't Raytheon and Lockheed Martin producing more if there's so much more demand?

7:52Bojan Pancevski:The trouble is the United States have not been commissioning these companies to produce enough of these missiles. and the military-industrial complex in the United States works in a way that it's kind of reliant on government contracts, basically thrives on taxpayer money. And if there's no sort of prospect of long-term contracts, these companies don't tend to invest into expanding their production. And if the government doesn't order stuff, no matter how many other orders they get from other countries, and they do get tons of orders at the moment, ever since the war started in Ukraine, they're not going to move until they get this kind of long-term, secure, safe contract.

8:38Ryan Knutson:But wouldn't for these companies, though, I mean, even though they are government contracts, wouldn't these companies see that there's a lot more demand, and so therefore we should invest in our ability to make more? I mean, isn't this just capitalism?

8:48Bojan Pancevski:Well, you would have thought that would work like that, but apparently it doesn't in this particular case. It's an interesting kind of paradox. It's a bit of a conundrum because the military-industrial complex, in a way, is this kind of small boutique, very sophisticated-like manufacturing where, you know, it's difficult to increase production.

9:10Ryan Knutson:Production of a single Patriot missile can cost millions of dollars and take months. They're made by hand, with components that come from all over the U.S. and from as far as Spain.

9:20Bojan Pancevski:And Lockheed told us that they are working hard to overcome these issues, that they have already expanded production manyfold, which is true. They are now at$600 a year, as we said, just over$600.

9:33Ryan Knutson:And they were making a lot less than that two, three years ago. Lockheed Martin says it's working to boost production of its Patriot Interceptors to$2 ,000 a year, by the end of 2030. For Ukraine, though, time is ticking. Raytheon's parent company, RTX, didn't return a request for comment about the missile launchers. Last week, President Trump met with the CEOs of Lockheed Martin, RTX, and other defense industry leaders at the White House. After the meeting, Trump posted on social media that the companies had agreed to, quote, quadruple production. The situation in Ukraine was already dire, and that was before the war with Iran started.

10:15Ryan Knutson:President Trump says the U.S. and Israel have launched major combat operations. Donald Trump says the objective is to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime. How did leaders in Ukraine react to the outbreak of war in Iran and what that might mean for its defense systems?

10:35Bojan Pancevski:Well, I mean, the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, held a cabinet meeting which was televised and issued a statement there saying that these Patriot missiles are a matter of life and death for Ukraine, and that they are absolutely concerned that they might not be receiving enough of them. So he very explicitly said what was going on. Then a day later, Zelensky said that the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Saudi had fired a north of 800 Patriot missiles in the first hours of the war. And he claimed that this is more than Ukraine had been able to procure since the start of the Russian invasion.

11:17Bojan Pancevski:The expectation is that the U.S. administration will help its Gulf allies, who were obviously damaged and depleted by this conflict in Iran. It will be a scramble for everyone to get some, and there will be nowhere near enough for Ukraine.

11:34Ryan Knutson:— How would you describe the situation Ukraine finds itself in right now? — Well, they're in a very difficult position.

11:41Bojan Pancevski:They're in a pickle, you know. The problem is the product is not there on the market. So it's a very, very difficult situation for them to confront because they will be facing a huge existential challenge and there's no clarity as to how will they resolve that.

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13:55Ryan Knutson:According to intelligence and defense officials, some U.S. adversaries are keeping a close eye on the Patriot interceptor missiles being used in the Persian Gulf. Like China, for example.

14:07Bojan Pancevski:The Chinese are using their satellites to observe every Patriot system in the area. They're counting the missiles that are being fired. And it's a very simple math. You know, they know how many can be made and they know how many are being expended. So that when they do the math, they know the actual capacity of the United States to defend itself and its allies. And that's not a great thing if you want to deter someone like Russia or China.

14:33Ryan Knutson:According to Boyan's reporting, U.S. adversaries have long understood that America isn't producing enough Patriot missiles to replace its supply. And they've been looking for ways to exploit it. For instance, if they can produce more attack weapons, more cheaply, then they can theoretically outlast U.S.-made defenses and eventually overtake them.

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14:52Bojan Pancevski:It turns out, if you make a missile which is fairly precise and very, very fast and has a strong warhead, then you're laughing. You know, the effect is the same. And if you mass produce these weapons and you fire 10 rockets for the enemy's one rocket, then you will eventually prevail. It doesn't matter how sophisticated the opponent is. If your unsophisticated weapons, which do the job, are available in sufficient quantities, then you are eventually going to prevail.

15:23Ryan Knutson:It's a numbers game. And Boyan says this is exactly what Russia and Iran are doing.

15:28Bojan Pancevski:So basically, they're changing their doctrines to adapt to that reality of the kind of industrial decline, if you will, in the state.

15:39Ryan Knutson:Are Russia and Iran facing the same kind of munition shortages, though? It's interesting.

15:44Bojan Pancevski:Russia and Iran, despite the sanctions, despite the pressure, the military pressure they've had, they've been able to keep up industrial kind of production of weapons of all kinds because they are basically militarized dictatorships. And their society's energy

16:00Ryan Knutson:is focused on strengthening the military. Russia and Iran have also started making weapons together. In 2023, the two countries entered a tech transfer deal that allows Russia to mass-produce drones that were first developed in Iran.

16:19Ryan Knutson:To counteract Iran's attacks, the U.S. has been forced to divert air defenses from around the Pacific to the Persian Gulf, air defenses that had been set up to deter potential attacks from China and North Korea. The U.S. has also sought other ways to counteract the munitions' disadvantage. For instance, by trying to take out Iran's ability to fire any missiles at all. Here's Defense Secretary Pete Hegseff at a press conference last week. The best defense is good offense. And so we're aggressively pushing into that airspace over that southern flank to ensure that we control it and we destroy anything that moves that would attempt to shoot us.

16:55Ryan Knutson:Think of it as shooting the archer instead of the arrows. That's where we want to be. In the war against Iran, that means the U.S. and Israel are racing to destroy Iran's missile stockpiles and its launch capabilities. But as for Ukraine, While the U.S. and Europe have supplied it with defensive weapons, they haven't supported Ukraine's offensive capabilities out of concern that it could escalate the conflict even further. So now, Ukraine is in a situation where it's running out of defensive weapons without having neutralized the Russian threat. Even if the U.S. goes after the archers, so to speak, and limits Iran's ability to shoot at the U.S.

17:33Ryan Knutson:and its allies, that still doesn't solve the core manufacturing issues that we've been talking about. So what can the U.S. do about that?

17:41Bojan Pancevski:Well, I think if policymakers wanted, they could learn lessons from what's happening now. And they could put some pressure on the companies to start mass producing. They could give them bigger government contracts. They could also try to instigate a little more competition on that market. The government will just need to decide how to instigate competition in that domain of the economy, in military manufacturing and innovation, and how to create an ecosystem that actually works, that kind of keeps churning out innovative and cheaper products. We are in this era of asymmetric warfare where, you know, chips and whatever other elements required to produce a weapon like that are readily available everywhere in the world.

18:35Bojan Pancevski:So small state actors and even non-state actors are going to be able to produce them. So I think that would have to instigate a massive change in the way America is thinking its defense and offense.

18:49Ryan Knutson:There's this narrative out there, I think certainly in the U.S. and in much of the world, that the United States has the biggest and most powerful and sophisticated military in the world, you know, and that its capabilities are limitless. And yet, for all of its sophistication, it's almost like too sophisticated in some cases for its own good.

19:08Bojan Pancevski:It's absolutely true that the military mind of the United States is completely unrivaled and unprecedented. But it's also a kind of giant with a feet of clay in some ways, because when it gets bogged down into a prolonged conflict with a peer enemy or with an enemy that has at least similar capacities, then it becomes very difficult.

19:42Ryan Knutson:That's all for today. Wednesday, March 11th. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Additional reporting in this episode by Drew Henshaw.

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Since the start of the war in Iran, the U.S. and regional allies have relied on American-made Patriot missile systems to counteract Iran’s airstrikes. But WSJ’s Bojan Pancevski reports that production shortfalls are draining reserves. This urgent math problem is not only straining U.S defenses around the world, it’s also creating an existential crisis for another country seeking to defend itself: Ukraine. Ryan Knutson hosts.

Further Listening:

- Will Gas Prices Go Up Because of the Iran War?

- Trump’s Shifting Reasons for War With Iran

- What’s Next for Iran?

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