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The Kara Goldin Show: Episode 790 - Darren Litt: Co-Founder & CEO of Hiya
Episode Overview In this episode of The Kara Goldin Show, Kara Goldin interviews Darren Litt, the Co-Founder and CEO of Hiya, a children's health brand that specializes in science-backed, pediatrician-formulated vitamins and supplements. The discussion revolves around Darren's journey from frustration with conventional kids' vitamins to the creation of Hiya, a brand focused on trust, transparency, and genuine nutrition.
Key Themes and Discussions
Introduction to Hiya
- Brand Philosophy: Hiya was founded on the realization that many children's vitamins are effectively candy, containing sugar and artificial additives. Darren aimed to create a healthier alternative.
- Market Opportunity: Recognizing a gap in the market for high-quality children's vitamins led to the development of Hiya, which avoids sugar, artificial colors, and unnecessary fillers.
Darren's Journey
- Background: Darren transitioned from a career in tech and law to focus on health and wellness as a parent.
- Initial Frustration: His personal experience with existing children's vitamins spurred him to investigate and ultimately create a better option.
- Research and Development: Darren invested time speaking with nutritionists, scientists, manufacturers, and parents to understand the needs of children’s health products.
Building the Brand
- Transparency and Trust: Emphasis on clear communication about ingredients and health benefits was fundamental from the start.
- Distinctive Approach: Hiya differentiates itself with fun packaging and engaging customer experiences, appealing to both parents and children.
Marketing Strategy
- Target Audiences: The marketing strategy targets both parents (the buyers) and children (the users), requiring a bifurcated approach in messaging.
- DTC Model: Hiya launched as a direct-to-consumer (DTC) brand, allowing for direct engagement with customers and control over messaging.
Challenges and Growth
- Navigating a Crowded Market: Hiya faced the challenges of launching in a regulated and competitive wellness space.
- Subscription Model: The subscription model supports consistent customer engagement and revenue predictability, fitting well with a product used daily.
Company Evolution
- Expansion and Iteration: Hiya started with a single product and expanded methodically, continuously optimizing based on customer feedback and changing health standards.
- Recent Acquisition: Darren discussed the strategic decision to sell a majority stake in Hiya, highlighting the importance of timing and business readiness for such a move.
Future Vision and Personal Success
- Defining Success: For Darren, success is less about financial milestones and more about building a company that contributes positively to children's health.
- Mission-Driven Focus: Emphasis on creating a brand that not only generates profit but also serves a greater purpose in improving children's health.
Key Takeaways
- Frustration as Motivation: Many successful companies are born from personal frustrations and a desire for improvement.
- Importance of Research: Understanding the landscape through rigorous research is crucial for innovation.
- Customer Engagement: Building trust with customers through transparency can differentiate a brand in a crowded market.
- Flexibility in Business: Adapting to new information and being willing to change formulations can enhance brand credibility.
- Impact of DTC Models: Direct engagement with consumers can lead to significant insights and brand loyalty.
Conclusion Darren Litt’s journey with Hiya exemplifies how personal experiences can inspire meaningful change in a market. His focus on transparency, quality, and customer engagement not only addresses a prevalent issue in children’s health but also creates a trusted brand that resonates with both parents and kids. The conversation serves as an insightful guide for entrepreneurs looking to build purpose-driven brands.
More Information
To learn more about Hiya and Darren Litt
- [Hiya Health Website](https://hiyahealth.com/)
- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/hiyahealth/)
- [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/darren-litt-3057402/)
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction to Darren Litt and Hiya
4:59 to 7:24
Darren Litt discusses his journey and the creation of Hiya vitamins.
“The new year hits and suddenly I want to clean everything, organize everything and upgrade everything, including my wardrobe.”
The Importance of Ingredient Transparency
7:24 to 10:59
Darren explains the shortcomings of common kids' vitamins and his mission.
“Today, I'm so excited to be joined by Darren Litt, who is the co-founder and CEO of an incredible brand that hopefully you have tried.”
Darren Litt's Entrepreneurial Journey
16:57 to 20:38
Understand Darren Litt's path as he transitioned from tech to the vitamin industry.
“You did not come from the vitamin industry or consumer products industry.”
Go-To-Market Strategy for Hiya
20:39 to 22:26
Learn how Darren decided on the go-to-market strategy for Hiya.
“I'd say that process took a couple of years, a couple of years of like a million questions.”
Engaging Two Audiences: Parents and Kids
22:27 to 25:28
Explore the dual customer base of Hiya and how to market to both effectively.
“You have the parents that you have to kind of hook who have the credit cards.”
Subscription Model Benefits
25:29 to 27:58
Discover the advantages of using a subscription model for Hiya's products.
“if it works for your business our products in the kids category we have a number of products now we have vitamins, probiotics, greens, powders.”
Product Evolution and Development Strategy
28:02 to 30:25
Learn how Haya strategically expanded its product line while maintaining quality and trust.
“How did the product change from the time you first launched?”
Lessons from Diverse Business Experiences
30:25 to 35:16
Discover key entrepreneurial lessons that transcend industries from Darren's career.
“So you've built companies across tech, media, CPG.”
Defining Personal Success and Purpose
35:16 to 38:05
Explore Darren's perspective on success beyond business sales and its true meaning.
“take on an athlete's approach, I guess, is sort of the best way to think about it.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Kara Goldin:I am unwilling to give up, but I will start over from scratch as many times as it takes to get where I want to be. You just want to make sure you will get knocked down, but just make sure you don't get knocked out. So your only choice should be, go focus on what you can control. Hi everyone and welcome to the Kara Goldin show. Join me each week for inspiring conversations with some of the world's greatest leaders. We'll talk with founders, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and really some of the most interesting people of our time. Can't wait to get started. Let's go. This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by Daily Look.
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3:52Kara Goldin:That kind of retention has real impact. And finding the right hire doesn't have to feel overwhelming. With LinkedIn Jobs AI Assistant, you can skip the guesswork and jargon. It filters candidates based on your role's specific criteria and highlights top matches. So you're not wasting time digging through endless resumes. When you're running a business, you need a hiring process that's fast and focused. LinkedIn's AI assistant delivers 25 strong candidate suggestions each day, giving you the chance to invite the right people to apply and keep the process moving. It's a smarter, faster way to hire, and it's why I rely on LinkedIn jobs.
4:36Kara Goldin:Hire right the first time. Post your job for free at linkedin.com slash Kara Golden. Then promote it to use LinkedIn Jobs new AI assistant, making it easier and faster to find top candidates. That's linkedin.com slash Kara Golden to post your job for free. Terms and conditions apply. This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by Daily Look. The new year hits and suddenly I want to clean everything, organize everything and upgrade everything, including my wardrobe. And that's exactly why I'm excited about our next sponsor, Daily Look. Between hosting this podcast and honestly just living life, I do not have time to go shopping.
5:24I'm
5:25Kara Goldin:done with the I have nothing to wear mornings. And in 2026, I'm officially stepping into my stylish era. Thanks to daily look. I'm also pretty particular about what I wear. So trusting some random algorithm just isn't for me. What I love about daily look is that you're paired with a real personal stylist who actually gets your style. And when sweater weather hits, Somehow they send exactly what I want before I even realize I need it. Daily Look is the number one highest rated premium personal styling service for women. And it's easy to see why. You're matched with your own dedicated stylist who curates a box based on your body type, personal style, and lifestyle.
6:12Kara Goldin:You can try up to 12 premium pieces at home on your schedule without the hassle of shopping. Whether you need something effortlessly polished for work or you're finally ready to retire, last year's stretched out sweaters, Daily Look has you covered. Getting started is simple. Fill out a quick style quiz, receive hand-selected pieces, keep what you love, and send back the rest. Shipping is free both ways, so it couldn't be easier. I can't stop talking about Daily Look. The quality is amazing. The styles are so, so good. And my stylist finally got me out of my black t-shirt everyday routine. I open my closet now and I actually feel excited about what to wear.
7:01Kara Goldin:It's time to get your own personal stylist with Daily Look. Head to dailylook.com to take your style quiz and use code CARAGOLDEN for 50 % off your first order. Once again, that's dailylook.com dot com and use code Kara Golden for 50 % off your first order. Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Kara Golden Show. Today, I'm so excited to be joined by Darren Litt, who is the co-founder and CEO of an incredible brand that hopefully you have tried. And if you haven't, you definitely will after our episode. It's called Haya and the children's wellness brand reimagining kids' vitamins with science-backed formulas, transparent ingredients, and absolutely no sugar or artificial additives.
7:57Darren's journey is a powerful example of how a very simple personal frustration can turn into a category-defining business.
8:06Kara Goldin:What started as a concern about what most kids' vitamins are really made of becoming Haya, a profitable, fast-growing, mission-driven brand that recently sold a majority stake in a deal that was pretty, pretty nice. So we'll get Darren to talk about that a bit. And I'm excited to dive into how Darren built trust with parents from day one, how he scaled Haya in a very crowded and regulated category and what he's learned about leadership, focus, and long-term vision along the way. So Darren, welcome to the Kara Golden Show. So excited to meet you and congratulations on everything. Thank you so much.
8:55Excited to be here.
8:56Kara Goldin:Very excited to have you here. So Darren, for our listeners just discovering Haya, if you can give a short snippet of the brand. What is the brand and what was the personal moment, I guess, that led you to start it? Yeah, so we're a kids health company. I'll give you kind of a spiel and the background of why I started it. My background was personally in tech. I actually went to law school in a very, very, very brief career as a lawyer, but I ended up as a tech entrepreneur. And when I had kids, I started thinking a little bit more about health and wellness for my kids. I was not thinking about starting a business.
9:32But I was thinking, how do I be healthier for my two daughters? I asked our pediatrician, should I be giving our kids vitamins, probiotics? She suggested a brand. I buy the brand off Amazon that comes in a plastic tub. I see all these gummies stuck together, bright colored, layer of sugar at the bottom. And I say, this seems a little weird. So I asked my friends, is this what you do? Do you give them these gummy vitamins? Everybody said, yeah, we do. Our kids like the taste. I don't really know if it does anything. And so for me as a dad, but also an entrepreneur, I said, this seems a little weird.
10:05So I basically got to work talking to everybody. My background was not in the vitamins, minerals, supplements space. But I said, I'm going to become an expert on this. I talked to scientists and nutritionists and manufacturers, obviously a million parents. And I said, what is it that I would want to create for myself, for my wife, for our friends, for our kids and for our friends' kids? And so that's really the genesis of Haya was let's make something that I think I want, which would be kind of the healthiest possible ingredients. Transparency. We want it to look fun and exciting. We do not want to cut corners when it comes to what we actually put in the vitamin itself.
10:43And that was the beginning of it.
10:45Kara Goldin:So you've said that most kids' vitamins are essentially candy. So can you describe a little bit about some of the ingredients and what you were seeing? And really, what did you think? Like, I've thought about this many, many times and had this frustration as well. But I think a lot of people don't really understand what are the ingredients in so much food, but also vitamins overall. I think, so again, I wasn't an expert in the space, but I think intuitively all parents realize that something isn't right in that kid's vitamin world, right? You buy a brand off Amazon or you walk down the hall and you could just look at the brand.
11:36Brands have personality and they speak to you. And sometimes you'll see the actual vitamin. And when you see all these gummies stuck together and you see the bright colors and you see a layer of sugar on the back and you turn around and you read the ingredients. And there's 15 ingredients that you don't really know the name of. And the purpose of kids vitamins is truly to promote health. and you ask yourself a question as a parent you say wait a minute am i doing the opposite here am i being told this is supposed to be something healthy for my kids and i'm actually giving them five five grams of sugar every morning or i'm giving them artificial dyes or i'm giving them you know some fillers that they don't need or gummy additives that promote cavities there's just a lot that's intuitively backwards from the space i think that's one of the reasons the brand resonated because we kind of poked at that a little bit.
12:31And we say to parents, in a transparent way, is this what you're doing? This isn't what we do anymore. We think there's a...
12:38Kara Goldin:This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by Daily Look. The new year hits and suddenly I want to clean everything, organize everything, and upgrade everything, including my wardrobe. And that's exactly why I'm excited about our next sponsor, Daily Look. Between hosting this podcast and honestly just living life, I do not have time to go shopping. I'm done with the I have nothing to wear mornings. And in 2026, I'm officially stepping into my stylish era thanks to Daily Look. I'm also pretty particular about what I wear. So trusting some random algorithm just isn't for me. What I love about Daily Look is that you're paired with a real personal stylist who actually gets your style.
13:28Kara Goldin:And when sweater weather hits, somehow they send exactly what I want before I even realize I need it. Daily Look is the number one highest rated premium personal styling service for women. And it's easy to see why. You're matched with your own dedicated stylist who curates a box based on your body type, personal style, and lifestyle. You can try up to 12 premium pieces at home on your schedule without the hassle of shopping. Whether you need something effortlessly polished for work or you're finally ready to retire last year's stretched out sweaters, Daily Look has you covered. Getting started is simple.
14:11Kara Goldin:Fill out a quick style quiz, receive hand-selected pieces, keep what you love, and send back the rest. Shipping is free both ways, so it couldn't be easier. I can't stop talking about Daily Look. The quality is amazing, the styles are so, so good, and my stylist finally got me out of my black t-shirt everyday routine. I open my closet now, and I actually feel excited about what to wear. It's time to get your own personal stylist with Daily Look. Head to dailylook.com to take your style quiz and use code CARAGolden for 50 % off your first order. Once again, that's dailylook.com and use code CARAGolden for 50 % off your first order.
15:03Kara Goldin:This episode of the Cara Golden Show is brought to you by LinkedIn Jobs. When you're building a business, every hire matters. The right people in the right roles can change the trajectory of your company. And as you look ahead to 2026, whether you're expanding your team or being more strategic about growth, hiring with intention is essential. That's where LinkedIn Jobs comes in. LinkedIn Jobs AI Assistant helps you find qualified candidates faster and with more confidence. So you're not just filling roles, you're building a team that lasts. In fact, LinkedIn hires are 30 % more likely to stay at least a year compared to the leading competitor.
15:49Kara Goldin:That kind of retention has real impact. And finding the right hire doesn't have to feel overwhelming. With LinkedIn Jobs AI Assistant, you can skip the guesswork and jargon. It filters candidates based on your role's specific criteria and highlights top matches. So you're not wasting time digging through endless resumes. When you're running a business, you need a hiring process that's fast and focused. LinkedIn's AI assistant delivers 25 strong candidate suggestions each day, giving you the chance to invite the right people to apply and keep the process moving. It's a smarter, faster way to hire, and it's why I rely on LinkedIn jobs.
16:34Kara Goldin:Hire right the first time. Post your job for free at linkedin.com slash Kara Golden. Then promote it to use LinkedIn Jobs' new AI assistant, making it easier and faster to find top candidates. That's linkedin.com slash Kara Golden to post your job for free. Terms and conditions apply. So you came from the tech industry. You did not come from the vitamin industry or consumer products industry. So what did you do first like to figure this out? I don't think it matters if you come from the tech industry or you come from the vitamin industry or what industry. I think if you're an entrepreneur, you got to just get going.
17:17Right. And so you just start talking to people and nobody's really that much of an expert on a new space they enter. So you just have conversation after conversation. So for me, it was talking to nutritionists. Right. It was talking to scientists. It was talking to vitamin manufacturers about what it is that you can make. It was talking to branding experts. It was talking to a lot of parents to say, hey, is this, you know, what do you like about this? What do you not like about this? Fortunately for me, I'm a parent myself. My wife is a parent. A lot of our friends are parents. We deal with a ton of kids.
17:52And so we were right in the thick of things of understanding, you know, what it is that parents want because we're the target market.
18:00Kara Goldin:Definitely. So transparency and trust were non-negotiable, it sounds like, from day one. I remember when we were starting Hint, many of the manufacturers were like, well, you just have to put this ingredient in the product in order to produce it. And I asked why, and many people didn't have an answer. And so I thought the minute they didn't have an answer, I realized that, you know, it's probably they're just going along with it. And we need to dig deeper and keep making phone calls. I'm curious what your experience was as well as you were trying to do something so different. Exact same experience, right?
18:43In our space, there's a lot of contract manufacturers. The contract manufacturers are really the ones that manufacture the product. And so when you have conversations with them, you know, I came at it from a parent's perspective, not a, you know, a tech person's perspective or a scientist's perspective, a parent's perspective. And I'd say, well, why does it have to be brightly colored? Why do we need five grams of sugar? And they would answer those and similar questions with, well, that's because what kids want. And I'm thinking to myself, well, that's not what parents want. And I'm telling you that maybe kids like that stuff, but they like it because that's what's presented to them.
19:22Of course, if you're going to present to them two products, one's super bright colors and has five grams of sugar, probably going to want that the same way that they're going to probably grab, you know, candy from the stores of, you know, CVS or Walgreens, you know, that's what they might grab, but you don't present it to them. And so our thesis was, let's have the vitamin itself or all the vitamins that we make be as healthy as we possibly can. And let's dress it up around the actual vitamin. So let's make really cool refillable bottles. We're going to make those bottles brightly colored. We're going to send it with stickers.
20:02So you and your kid decorate your product with sticker. And then every month, we're going to send you a little game. You're going to play that game. And so it's a very fun brand, but the fun and the excitement isn't in the ingredients. The fun and the excitement isn't in the bright colors on the vitamin itself. So nothing you put in your body is designed to be fun. That's designed to be healthy. The fun is wrapped around it.
20:26Kara Goldin:So the minute that you had this idea and you're doing the research, but then you actually get it off the ground, how long did that process take? I'd say that process took a couple of years, a couple of years of like a million questions. Half of those million questions were probably seen as dumb questions. But I think that's, you know, the old no dumb questions. I think you got to just power through and become an expert on the space. So the go-to-market strategy, how did you figure that out, what you were going to do? I'm sure there was many decisions. Do you launch on your own website, Amazon, in drugstores like a CVS, Target?
21:15Kara Goldin:What were some of the decisions? Or Whole Foods or some of the other natural stores. How did you think about that and how did you make those decisions? My thinking with this brand in this space is we have to have some type of a conversation. Do you have retail packaging? We all claim there's a little conversation, but there's only so much you could say on, you know, a package. In this industry, we need 30, 60 seconds of conversation to say, this is what's happening in the kids' vitamin space. Does this sound right for you? So to us, the logical way to do that was on our website and start as a D2C brand where we can really kind of communicate back and forth.
21:55We could talk to our customers directly. We could have a ton of educational ads. We can have emails that we sent. So we launched basically March of 2020, right around COVID, is when we launched. And it was all, you know, it was 100 % on our website. And we grew the brand 100 % on websites. So we didn't even launch Amazon until a few months ago. We were just a rocket ship brand where we controlled the message. And that really happened direct to consumer.
22:27Kara Goldin:So you almost have two audiences. You have the parents that you have to kind of hook who have the credit cards. And then you have the kids who are not only tasting the product, but your packaging is so great. And, you know, there's activities and really a kid experience that goes along. Kidsperience, I guess you call it, that goes along with it. So, first of all, how did you think about that? Like, how do you really engage to consumers in that process? And I guess subscription was always such a great driver as well in sort of forming the habit in order to have that growth strategy. But I'm just curious what advice you'd give to others about that.
23:20You're dead on. We have two customers. And not only do we have two customers and parents and kids, they are the pickiest customers ever, right? So a parent of a little toddler, they have their antennas up and then you have a toddler himself or herself, right? They're especially picky. So I think what that teaches you is you can't cut corners here on product or messaging. You got to really execute well. I think that's why in our space in particular, there really hasn't been a standout brand. And, you know, since, you know, Flintstones gave way to some of these gummy brands, but, but since then there really hasn't been a standout brand.
24:02Like we see Haya as that like true standout kids brands. And when you do have two audiences like that, you do have to kind of like bifurcate a little bit, like the way that you talk to customers. So in our advertisements, like our Facebook ads, TikTok ads, podcast ads, Google ads, what have you, we're really talking to parents, right? They're the ones, as you mentioned, they're the ones taking out their credit card. And we're talking about ingredients and we're talking about trust. And we're talking about how this is, you know, are you sure that kind of these gummy vitamins filled with sugar? Is that what you want?
24:36Then when the package arrives, we flip it a little bit, right? And so the package itself, yes, it's meant to appeal to parents in the sense we want to be trusted. But our messaging and most of what we do at that point, it flips to kids. So the colors that we choose, we're not choosing those colors because we think a 40-year-old mom wants those colors. We're choosing it because we think it appeals to kids. We did a bunch of really cool collabs with Disney where we have Disney branded bottles. we did a collab with Mattel where we have uh Barbie and Hot Wheels branded bottles again is that for the parents no that's for that's for the the kids so I think it's a pretty hard industry to crack because of that but I think we did a pretty good job thinking about it in those two ways and then as you mentioned kind of subscription subscription is a fantastic business model if it works for your business our products in the kids category we have a number of products now we have vitamins, probiotics, greens, powders.
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25:39Most of them are really designed to be taken daily, right? Like that's where you see the most efficacy. And so that tends to lend itself well to a subscription business model. If you're selling a t-shirt of the month or socks of the month, it doesn't really make sense with, you know, subscription. So with our product, I think we were fortunate that the product itself lend itself to subscription. And then on the back end, that just makes for a great business model. I bootstrap the business, right? And so when When you're bootstrapping a company, I think that subscription model adds, you know, a lot of, a lot of, you know, you have a good sense of what money is going to come in and when that money is going to come in and what the churn is.
26:20And it makes things a little easier.
26:22Kara Goldin:So you built Haya as a profitable, largely bootstrap D2C brand. And what advantages do you think that gives you compared to trying to go out and raise early venture capital money or, you know, also to potentially sell the company? I mean, how did that advantage you? I think it's a huge advantage if you could pull it off. It's not easy to pull off. Right. And I have the scars and the war stories around trying to pull that off, especially in the early days. If you don't have$20 million in the bank for a consumer brand, you have to obsess over your unit economics. Every dollar that comes in and every dollar that comes out.
27:08The good thing is really the way to obsess over unit economics is to know your customers intimately because you know what they want and what they don't want. And the more you serve them and the more that you help them out, the longer they're going to stay and the more money you're going to make. So I think it ties itself well to general business. Like you got obsessed over money. And so how do you obsess over money? Well, you just like do the right thing for your customers. I do think that there has been a tendency in the consumer space really to kind of over raise in the recent years, right? But really kind of before there's product market fit and, you know, trying to raise a ton of capital and then back your way into product market fit.
27:50You can't really fake product market fit. So I think some of it was a good business decision on our part. Some of it was luck in the sense that I think we hit it pretty quickly in terms of what parents want.
28:02Kara Goldin:How did the product change from the time you first launched? You talked about some of the different categories. Can you take us through that process? And how did you make decisions to expand and go into different categories? So when we launched, and some of this is a function of being a bootstrap business, I said we're going to launch with one product we're going to come up with the best kids vitamin we can that's it the best kids vitamin we can and we're going to become so obsessed with every ingredient in here that nobody's going to be able to compete and from a messaging standpoint it was very clean it was a what's higher all they do is kids vitamin they make one multivitamin for kids that's all they do so I think when it came to parents, we pretty quickly gained their trust because it was clear that this is what we do and this is all we do.
28:58We then were very methodical about expanding into other categories. I think there's a tendency, especially if you have a raise to say, oh, we have one product. Let's go into 50 products, right? But we didn't do that. We went from one product or multivitamin. We said, now let's get into a kid's daily probiotic. And what are we going to do? We're going to spend one year obsessing over making the best kids probiotic. And little by little, we enter different products, but it always stayed true to kind of that ethos of let's obsess over the product. I think one other thing that we built into the DNA of the company from the beginning is when it comes to health and wellness, experts' views on health and wellness are constantly changing.
29:39What experts think was a great ingredient five years ago, five years from now, they may shift their view. We've seen that 1 million times. And I think we built it into the DNA and our relationship with customers to say, hey, these are the ingredients we have right now. But if something changes, we're going to change our formula. So in the first two years, we changed our formula, I think, six times with little iterations because we said, oh, wow, this ingredient, we're going to peel that back and we're going to add a different ingredient for whatever reason. And rather than see that as a kind of like a weakness, we kind of flipped that on his head and turned it into, no, this is good thing for everybody.
30:14You don't want us to be static on ingredients. So we're going to be constantly shifting around and adding and changing based on what we think is best for your kids.
30:25Kara Goldin:So you've built companies across tech, media, CPG. What lessons kind of carried over from all those different experiences that are consistent in a successful company, no matter what industry? Yeah. So because I came from a tech background, I think that there is like a bit of a Silicon Valley ethos and a metrics driven ethos and obsessing over numbers and obsessing over scalable processes. You can take that way too far. But I think at its core, it's a good thing to do. So we at Haya, we really ran the back end, not the front end. What you see is kind of a beautiful brand that kids love and parents, you know, want to buy on the back end.
31:12You know, we kind of run it like a hedge fund in the sense where you see numbers all the time where we're analyzing data, you know, in detail, because I think. one of the ways to build a great kind of cpg brand is still to obsess over data um so that's what we did is really we took that silicon valley ethos you know scalable process and metrics and we brought that to cpg at the same time i think there's a balance and if you obsess too much over the data right like you lose a little intuition you lose like a connection to customers that's a hard lesson in terms of like what you want to teach entrepreneurs who are, you know, business people who are listening.
31:52It's how do you find that balance? So much of entrepreneurship is about finding balance and you have like two conflicting ideas, right? So on the one hand, study the numbers, obsess over your metrics. On the other hand, go with your gut and go with your intuition. It's a little, you know, it's, it's, you gotta be, you gotta make the call as an entrepreneur to decide like at this point, which direction are you going to move in?
32:14Kara Goldin:Yeah, definitely. So So 2024, major, major time in the Haya lifeline, I guess. So you sold a majority stake. How did you think about timing for this and kind of how did the whole thing come about? Yeah, so I think that if you're thinking about what's the next stage of your business and you're starting to consider an exit, it is hard to time, right? It's kind of like, when do you want to have kids? And it's a little bit of like, there's never the perfect time to have kids. And you try to play it too perfectly, and you're probably going to miss time something. So what you can do is kind of read the room in the sense of like, okay, have we achieved scale?
32:57And we have achieved scale with Haya. We're one of the handful of biggest kids brands out there. Do we see the near future as a fantastic future? It's really hard to look five, 10 years out in the future, but you know that like that one, two, three year, you know, trajectory in the future, like it's looking really good. Do you have a story to tell? Do you have a team in place where you can kind of hand the keys over a little bit to another organization? nobody wants to buy something and take over the organization in a sense and they don't know what they're doing right so you got to have the the core of the business in place and then you you do need kind of you need the metrics to do well we're a highly profitable company right we always ran it that way so we knew our EBITDA structure like our our the actual like essentially net income was at a point where we thought we could achieve what we wanted.
34:01And then we essentially ran a process, right? And so what does that mean? You hire a banker, you talk to a million companies. We were fortunate because we, as I mentioned, we didn't have extensive outside investors. So if it sounded like a great deal, we'd do the deal. If it didn't sound like a great deal, we wouldn't do the deal, right? And so we found a partner in a company called USANA, which owns Haya now and we thought it was just a great fit. And so we closed that about a year ago.
34:27Kara Goldin:That's awesome. And so what does success look like for you personally as you think about, you know, you've sold an incredible company. You're still the CEO of that company. But what is success for you? I mean, you have a lot to be proud of that you not only with this venture, but in your history. But how do you think about this? I mean, I think people often think, you know, if I can go and sell a company, then I'm super successful. Yet most entrepreneurs, you know, success is not something that is a switch that goes kind of, I've done it kind of thing. You know, I think that they're more interested in continuing to grow and kind of take on an athlete's approach, I guess, is sort of the best way to think about it.
35:20Kara Goldin:But how do you think about that? I think it's a good question. I think when I'm like alone at night, I rarely think about the concept of success for me, right? Like, it's just not something that I quote unquote strive for. I do. I am competitive for sure, right? And I do want to build like set goals. And, you know, for us, it was let's build a great business. Exiting the company was part of that goal. I think that was very exciting. But I try not to attach that idea of success to it. It's just something that I set out to do and I want to do it. And let's maybe go do it again in several years and see where the wind takes me.
36:04It is important to me, especially at this stage, to build companies or brands that I'm proud of. right? Like I love our team. We've got a great team. I love that we're kind of putting good into the world, right? So we're mission driven business. We're not just trying to drive profit. That's great, right? Like we love that. But I think it's, you know, how can we do some good in the world? How can we take what we think is kids health, which is just kind of this, it was a little bit of a gross, like ecosystem there. And how do we clean it up a little bit? Right. And so I think that's important, like not to get on like a high horse about that.
36:38but I think it's a little important, right? If you're going to start a company and there's infinite companies that maybe that you could start, well, choose one in a lane where you think that you're helping. So that's definitely important to me. And then just kind of playing in your own genius zone. I like building brands. I'm a mathematical mind and yet I love the idea of like messaging and marketing right kind of combining those two in one i kind of think that's high where we have a very kind of numbers driven organization that presents you know as a fantastic brand that kids love and it looks really cool and it's stylish and it takes this world of kids health which to me was always just a little kidsy looking and like there's no style to it and look boring and it's well if you're putting something out in the world make it look good right like like let's make this look stylish.
37:39Like for us, our Haya bottle, it's a very recognizable bottle. We're proud and parents are proud to put it on their kitchen, right? Like they're proud to keep it out. They don't tuck it away in the kitchen cabinet. They keep it out sometimes, you know, on the kitchen counter. And that makes me feel really good because it's parents kind of, you know, adopting like our general ethos, which is like, put some good in the world and it will payoff. I love it.
38:05Kara Goldin:Well, Darren, thank you so much for joining us today and your story from identifying a real frustration, not just for parents, but also for kids and building a trusted, mission-driven brand is very, very inspiring and a great reminder that some of the best companies start with just asking better questions and not being afraid to just go out there and fix something and that's exactly what you've done in a category in an industry. So thank you so much. And thanks everyone for listening. We'll have all the info in the show notes for Haya, but definitely go ahead and buy some Haya, go on and follow Darren as well.
38:53Kara Goldin:And really appreciate you coming on and joining us on the Carol Golden Show today. Thank you. This was fun. Lots of fun. Thanks again for listening to The Kara Golden Show. If you would, please give us a review and feel free to share this podcast with others who would benefit. And of course, feel free to subscribe so you don't miss a single episode of our podcast. Just a reminder that I can be found on all platforms at Kara Golden. I would love to hear from you too, so feel free to DM me. And if you want to hear more about my journey, I hope you will have a listen or pick up a copy of my Wall Street Journal bestselling book, Undaunted, where I share more about my journey, including founding and building, Hint.
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On today’s episode, we welcome Darren Litt, Co-Founder & CEO of Hiya — the leading children’s health brand reimagining kids’ wellness with science-backed, pediatrician-formulated vitamins and supplements.
Darren’s journey began with a simple but powerful parental insight: most kids’ vitamins are essentially candy. Determined to do better, he set out to build a brand rooted in trust, transparency, and real nutrition. The result is Hiya—a profitable, fast-growing, largely bootstrapped DTC brand that removed sugar, artificial additives, and unnecessary fillers from children’s vitamins, while rethinking everything from formulation to packaging and the overall “kidsperience.”
In this episode, Darren shares how a personal frustration turned into a category-defining company, the early challenges of building in a crowded and regulated wellness space, and the pivotal decisions that shaped Hiya’s trajectory. We also talk about scaling a mission-driven consumer brand, creating long-term trust with parents, navigating a major majority-stake acquisition, and what Darren sees next for the future of children’s wellness. This conversation is packed with insight for founders, operators, and anyone building brands with purpose.
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