In short
Shabani Baluja’s path from Kraft Foods strategy to founding Lil’ Gourmets, and how she built a “veggie-first” baby food brand using research, product iteration, and packaging pivots. She argues early veggie exposure helps kids become less picky and links poor early vegetable intake (often only fries/white potatoes) to obesity and diet-related disease.
Guest background
Shabani Baluja spent over a decade at Kraft Foods, mostly in mergers & acquisitions/strategy (10 of 11 years). She later faced a 5-year unexplained infertility journey, worked with an acupuncturist, changed her diet away from processed foods, and then founded Lil’ Gourmets after becoming a mom.
Key claims
“Veggies should be kids’ first foods” and should be repeated often. Early foods correlate with future eating habits (cited via emerging infant nutrition research and a pediatric advisor/AAP culinary medicine). Execution is harder than strategy.
Notable examples
Original SKUs included cinnamon beets & apples, Moroccan/butternut squash & carrots, and sweet potato curry (Indian-inspired sweet potato & spinach). She launched in spoon-feeding cups, then pivoted to pouches after shelf/consumer behavior data showed cups weren’t working; she also credits the pouch shift with clearer shelf visibility and improved margins.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOResilience and Control
0:00 to 0:19
Learn about the importance of resilience and focusing on what you can control in challenges.
“I am unwilling to give up, but I will start over from scratch as many times as it takes to get where I want to be.”
Resilience and Control
3:49 to 6:53
Learn about the importance of resilience and focusing on what you can control in challenges.
“Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Kara Golden Show.”
Introduction to Shabani Baluja
8:45 to 9:46
Kara welcomes Shabani Baluja, founder and CEO of Little Gourmets, to discuss her journey.
“Let's face it, most AI can give you business insights, but only Rippling can give you AI that takes action across your global workforce.”
Introduction to Shabani Baluja
9:50 to 10:07
Kara welcomes Shabani Baluja, founder and CEO of Little Gourmets, to discuss her journey.
“across your business and take complex actions across your entire organization.”
Shabani's Entrepreneurial Journey
10:07 to 14:00
Shabani shares her transition from Kraft Foods to launching Little Gourmets and the challenges faced.
“So for listeners who may not be familiar with the Little Gourmets brand yet, how do you describe the brand and what makes it different?”
Challenges in Brand Growth
14:00 to 14:22
Learn about the hurdles of growing a brand from the founder's perspective.
“The execution, things don't always work out the way you think they are, the way they think they should on paper.”
Challenges in Brand Growth
14:27 to 16:04
Learn about the hurdles of growing a brand from the founder's perspective.
“For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time.”
Challenges in Brand Growth
17:14 to 17:24
Learn about the hurdles of growing a brand from the founder's perspective.
“Please support our show and let them know we sent you.”
Insights from Kraft: Brand Growth Strategies
17:29 to 19:56
Understand the crucial factors in brand acquisition and management from industry experience.
“So you probably saw a lot of deals go through Kraft and helped analyze a lot of those deals.”
The Journey to Lil' Gourmets: Personal Story
20:00 to 24:02
Explore the founder's personal journey to creating a healthy baby food brand.
“So getting back to Little Gourmets, you were looking at starting your own family and went through a whole fertility journey that so many families go through.”
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The Journey to Lil' Gourmets: Personal Story
25:33 to 27:11
Explore the founder's personal journey to creating a healthy baby food brand.
“For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time.”
Veggie First: The Concept Behind Lil' Gourmets
27:13 to 28:00
Learn about the importance of introducing vegetables as first foods for kids.
“I think what we know now, we have a pediatric advisor who leads culinary medicine for the AAP.”
The Launch of Lil’ Gourmets: Addressing Picky Eaters
28:00 to 33:43
Learn about the challenges and innovations Shibani Baluja faced in creating a veggie-focused baby food brand.
“is what gets kids to first learn to like and then learn to love veggies.”
The Launch of Lil’ Gourmets: Addressing Picky Eaters
35:11 to 36:51
Learn about the challenges and innovations Shibani Baluja faced in creating a veggie-focused baby food brand.
“For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time.”
Adapting to Market Needs: From Cups to Pouches
36:51 to 42:07
Discover the strategic decision behind changing the packaging and product delivery of Lil’ Gourmets.
“Were grocery buyers sharing this or asking why you're not?”
Challenges of Building a CPG Brand
42:07 to 44:26
Learn about the myriad challenges faced by CPG brands and quick decision-making.
“your product packaged in its permanent package for shelf life testing, but you don't have a package, you don't have a sealer, things like that where you're just like every day you're just figuring things out.”
Vision for Lil' Gourmets and Childhood Nutrition
44:26 to 46:36
Discover the vision for Lil' Gourmets and its focus on improving childhood nutrition.
“And as you get bigger and are doing this longer, and I credit my marketer with really pushing this in me, is what's really going to move the needle?”
Gratitude and Future Expectations
46:36 to 47:25
Hear closing remarks and gratitude towards the guest, along with future expectations.
“store and kids' products and really elevating things with this focus on veggies and nutrient density and flavor.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I am unwilling to give up, but I will start over from scratch as many times as it takes to get where I want to be.
0:09Kara Goldin:You just want to make sure you will get knocked down, but just make sure you don't get knocked out. So your only choice should be, go focus on what you can control. Hi everyone and welcome to the Kara Goldin Show. Join me each week for inspiring conversations with some of the world's greatest leaders. We'll talk with founders, entrepreneurs, CEOs, and really some of the most interesting people of our time. Can't wait to get started. Let's go. This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by LinkedIn Hiring Pro. Hi, Kara here. For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time.
0:52Kara Goldin:I felt that pressure firsthand. You know, a bad hire isn't just frustrating, it's expensive in time, money, and team morale. And yet hiring the right person can feel like a full-time job on top of everything else you're already doing. Sifting through applications, trying to spot the real standouts, second-guessing decisions, it can get overwhelming fast. That's why having a way to save time without sacrificing quality isn't just nice to have, it's critical. Luckily, LinkedIn Hiring Pro is built for that reality. It's your hiring partner designed to help you hire with confidence by surfacing only the right candidates without turning hiring into another full-time job.
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3:01Kara Goldin:And instead of randomly matching you, RULA helps connect you with licensed professionals based on your needs, preferences, and state requirements. If taking care of your mental health is part of your plan this year, RULA makes it easier to begin and easier to stick with it. Real support covered by insurance when you need it most. Thousands of people are already using Rula to get affordable, high quality therapy that's actually covered by insurance. Visit Rula.com slash Kara Golden to get started. After you sign up, you'll be asked how you heard about them. Please support our show and let them know we sent you.
3:40Kara Goldin:That's R-U-L-A.com slash Kara Golden. You deserve mental health care that works with you, not against your budget. Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Kara Golden Show. Today, I'm joined by Shabani Baluja, founder and CEO of Little Gourmets, the first fresh veggie first baby food brand bringing globally inspired meals to the refrigerated aisle at Whole Foods Market, Walmart, and beyond. And Shabani's journey is such a powerful one. She spent over a decade climbing the ranks at incredible large brands like Kraft Foods only to decide, it's time. I need to go and become an entrepreneur. And at the same time, she was navigating, growing her family, all of the things that she thought she wanted to accomplish sound familiar.
4:40Kara Goldin:When she finally became a mom, she made a bold move to go ahead and become that entrepreneur that maybe she was thinking about before that. What I love about Shobani's story is how she's combining her personal experience, research, her own journey prior to launching Little Gourmets, and now has an incredible company that she is not only the founder of, but also navigating and scaling. So very excited to have this conversation. So Shabani, welcome. So nice to finally meet you. Yes, Kara, thank you so much. It's so nice to meet you and I'm really excited to chat. It's 2026. Banking shouldn't still feel complicated.
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10:29So we're based on the research that shows a high correlation between our early foods and our future eating habits. So if we know we can introduce babies and toddlers to foods like ours early on, we can really help inspire them into healthy and adventurous eaters, squash, picky eating, and just make mealtime more joyful and nutritious.
10:51Kara Goldin:As the days get longer and warmer, I always find myself resetting a bit, thinking about what I'm eating, how I'm feeling, and honestly, how to enjoy the foods I love without feeling like I'm compromising anything. Because let's be real, there are certain comfort foods I don't want to give up. Fresh sandwiches, wraps, pasta nights, those are staples. And that's exactly where Hero bread has completely changed things for me. I was genuinely surprised the first time I tried it. The texture is soft, fluffy, honestly, exactly what you want from bread. Not dense, not off, just really good. Whether I'm making a quick breakfast bagel, a veggie packed wrap for lunch, or even doing a full pasta night with their noodles, it actually feels like I'm eating the real thing.
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13:23Kara Goldin:The buck stops with you, all of those things that I know very, very well. But what did you learn, I guess, in those early days of launching little gourmets that maybe you weren't as prepared for? Yeah, so I spent most of my time at Kraft in mergers and acquisitions. So 10 of my 11 years were in the strategy role. And I found it kind of at this point to be a little comical that I used to tell operators how they could better operate their business, you know, based on strategy and theory. And then I saw, well, strategy and theory only gets you so far, right? The execution, things don't always work out the way you think they are, the way they think they should on paper.
14:09And so that has been really eye-opening to see just how much harder it is to grow a brand than I think I realized during my days at Kraft.
14:21Kara Goldin:This episode of the Kara Golden show is brought to you by LinkedIn Hiring Pro. Hi, Kara here. For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time. I felt that pressure firsthand. You know, a bad hire isn't just frustrating, it's expensive in time, money, and team morale. And yet hiring the right person can feel like a full-time job on top of everything else you're already doing. Sifting through applications, trying to spot the real standouts, second-guessing decisions, it can get overwhelming fast. That's why having a way to save time without sacrificing quality isn't just nice to have, it's critical.
15:05Kara Goldin:Luckily, LinkedIn Hiring Pro is built for that reality. It's your hiring partner designed to help you hire with confidence by surfacing only the right candidates without turning hiring into another full-time job. Posting a job isn't always the hard part. It's finding, connecting with, and screening the right candidates. Hiring Pro streamlines the entire process from drafting your job to shortlisting candidates and conducting AI-powered interviews for initial screenings. Their updated conversational interface lets you describe what you need in plain language, no recruiter jargon needed. Nearly 60 % of hires find a candidate to interview within a week.
15:47Kara Goldin:With Hiring Pro, you spend less time searching and more time connecting with the right talent. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire. Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash Kara Golden. Terms and conditions apply. This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by Rula, online therapy designed to be easier to access and actually covered by insurance. There are seasons when stress, burnout, anxiety, or just life can feel like a lot. And when you're ready to get support, you shouldn't have to spend weeks trying to figure out who takes your insurance or whether anyone is even accepting new patients.
16:30Kara Goldin:Rula helps take the friction out of that process. They partner with over 100 insurance plans with patients, typically paying around$15 per session when using insurance. And instead of randomly matching you, RULA helps connect you with licensed professionals based on your needs, preferences, and state requirements. If taking care of your mental health is part of your plan this year, RULA makes it easier to begin and easier to stick with it. Real support covered by insurance when you need it most. Thousands of people are already using RULA to get affordable, high-quality therapy that's actually covered by insurance.
17:09Kara Goldin:Visit Rula.com slash Kara Golden to get started. After you sign up, you'll be asked how you heard about them. Please support our show and let them know we sent you. That's R-U-L-A dot com slash Kara Golden. You deserve mental health care that works with you, not against your budget. I'm so curious. So you probably saw a lot of deals go through Kraft and helped analyze a lot of those deals. What would you say is kind of the big things that you, is there different points of a brand where you finally decide, okay, yeah, maybe it, whether it's for craft or anybody else, what would you say based on what you saw?
17:54Kara Goldin:I mean, they, they want to bring brands in, they want to bring only if they get to a certain size, what kind of growth, what kind of profitability, all those things, if you had to like boil it down. Yeah, yeah. So I think the key thing is synergies. And can we grow this brand better than someone else or independently, right? So does it fit into the portfolio? Does it fit into our core competencies? And can we bring value to it that others can't? Because that's what would allow us to bid higher for it and actually win in an auction. in terms of profitability. We would always at that point want to see at least a gross margin of 40 as a base so that we could take it to 50 or 60 with those synergies and really see that the brand could travel to the categories that we wanted it to travel to.
18:50So I'd say at Kraft, we learned like so many, I think big food companies have learned over the last 10, 20 years that if a company or a brand was too small, it really often got lost in a behemoth like craft was. And so we really did look at, we stopped looking at deals under, you know, 100 million or so in revenue, unless they really just could slide right into an existing portfolio. So in our earlier days, we were bringing in smaller brands. We brought in back to nature when it was just a few million dollars, but really found that it wasn't aligned with craft's competencies to grow a brand that small.
19:34And it just kind of got, brands like that got lost in the shuffle and we ended up divesting a bunch. I actually, when I was there, I divested a number of brands that we had acquired five to 10 years earlier and just saw that we were not good stewards of those brands. So I learned a lot about what not to do with a small brand during my time at Kraft. So, so interesting.
20:01Kara Goldin:So getting back to Little Gourmets, you were looking at starting your own family and went through a whole fertility journey that so many families go through. How did that experience shape your perspective on food and health? Yeah, so it's really interesting because I actually never wanted to be an entrepreneur. I'm the daughter of immigrant entrepreneurs and I saw how hard it was. And my family was always like, just don't do it. It's so hard. It's so hard on family too, right? But my infertility experience, so it went on for about five years to have my son. It was unexplained. And so I turned to an acupuncturist who had me start looking at what I was putting into my body.
20:49And at that time, I ate a lot of processed foods. I mean, I worked at Kraft, right? A lot of like fat-free, low-fat versions are, you know, our 90s definition of healthy. And so when I cut all that out of my diet, I cut out all processed foods, I really just felt so much better. I felt similar to you, right? I just, I felt healthier and I just like my, I didn't have those same kind of issues that I had for years with just being reliant on processed food. And so when I eventually had my son, you know, I credit him to a number of things, you know, of course, doctors and my acupuncturist, but also I think my diet.
21:29And so the first time I went to feed him, I'd say packaged baby food, I was really struck by the irony because packaged baby food is one of the most over-processed foods in the grocery store. And so this was, my son was born in 2013. So at that point, there was no fresh baby food. And so when I opened that first jar of, it was just organic carrots, the irony hit me. And during those years of just struggling to become a mom, I really promised myself that if I was ever lucky enough to become a mom, I would always do my best. And as I opened that jar, something inside me clicked like, no, this is not doing your best.
22:15And so I ended up, you know, putting the jar down and started the next struggle of motherhood, which was, you know, as someone who's working long hours and commuting and just like so many of us, right, how am I going to get this kid fed in time with food I felt good about? And I couldn't find anything in the grocery store to help me. And so I just started cooking all his meals and focused on introducing him to a variety of veggies and always use spices just because that's just how I cooked. And I really saw that impact as he became a toddler. He loved veggies. He loved really diverse flavors and he was so open to food.
22:59And that's really kind of what led me down that path because I started to, I got curious to say, why is this kid so into like really adventurous flavors? And started doing more medical research. And that's when I discovered that emerging infant nutrition research was proving a high correlation between our early foods and our future eating habits. And so what I was seeing with my son is exactly what I should expect to see. And then I'd say I put my craft hat on and really started studying the industry and seeing how this one we could do so much better and two there's such a white space and three as I talked to other parents and did surveys saw that they too were looking for things like I was more veggies fresher options just food they felt good about feeding their kids and so it still took me a couple years from there the idea just kept nagging at me and I was like no, I don't.
23:57I don't want to be an entrepreneur, but I couldn't get it out of my head. And so I eventually left Kraft to start it.
24:05Kara Goldin:This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by Rula, online therapy designed to be easier to access and actually covered by insurance. There are seasons when stress, burnout, anxiety, or just life can feel like a lot. And when you're ready to get support, you shouldn't have to spend weeks trying to figure out who takes your insurance or whether anyone is even accepting new patients. RULA helps take the friction out of that process. They partner with over 100 insurance plans with patients typically paying around$15 per session when using insurance. And instead of randomly matching you, RULA helps connect you with licensed professionals based on your needs, preferences, and state requirements.
24:48Kara Goldin:If taking care of your mental health is part of your plan this year, RULA makes it easier to begin. and easier to stick with it. Real support covered by insurance when you need it most. Thousands of people are already using Rula to get affordable, high-quality therapy that's actually covered by insurance. Visit Rula.com slash Kara Golden to get started. After you sign up, you'll be asked how you heard about them. Please support our show and let them know we sent you. That's R-U-L-A.com slash Kara Golden. You deserve mental health care that works with you, not against your budget. This episode of the Kara Golden Show is brought to you by LinkedIn Hiring Pro.
25:32Kara Goldin:Hi, Kara here. For small businesses, every hire matters, but so does your time. I felt that pressure firsthand. You know, a bad hire isn't just frustrating, it's expensive in time, money, and team morale. And yet hiring the right person can feel like a full-time job on top of everything else you're already doing. Sifting through applications, trying to spot the real standouts, second-guessing decisions, it can get overwhelming fast. That's why having a way to save time without sacrificing quality isn't just nice to have, it's critical. Luckily, LinkedIn Hiring Pro is built for that reality. It's your hiring partner designed to help you hire with confidence by surfacing only the right candidates without turning hiring into another full-time job.
26:24Kara Goldin:Posting a job isn't always the hard part. It's finding, connecting with, and screening the right candidates. Hiring Pro streamlines the entire process from drafting your job to shortlisting candidates and conducting AI-powered interviews for initial screenings. Their updated conversational interface lets you describe what you need in plain language, no recruiter jargon needed. Nearly 60 % of hires find a candidate to interview within a week. With Hiring Pro, you spend less time searching and more time connecting with the right talent. Join the 2.7 million small businesses using LinkedIn to hire.
27:05Kara Goldin:Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash Kara Golden. Terms and conditions apply. So one of the key things that I've heard you speak about, about little gourmets, is the veggie first concept. Can you speak to that a little bit? Yeah. Yeah. I think what we know now, we have a pediatric advisor who leads culinary medicine for the AAP. and what the latest science is, is absolutely veggies should be our kids' first foods. They should be repeated often. We as a society, our kids need to eat more veggies. We're seeing 80 to 90 % of kids have their only vegetable consumption be like french fries or white potatoes.
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27:54And it's leading to things like obesity and diet-related disease. And so we know that the early exposure to veggies is what gets kids to first learn to like and then learn to love veggies. And so that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to encourage this very early exposure to veggies. And I'd say it was the white space because when I was walking the aisles and studying the baby food industry 10 years ago, 90 to 95 % of products started with a fruit and it was generally an apple or a banana or a pear. And so kids weren't getting any sort of diversity in nutrients or in flavor. And I think that was helping lead them to become these picky eaters that were more reliant on processed food.
28:46So it's almost like, how do we break the cycle? We break the cycle by introducing veggies and it's harder. And so we're trying to make it easier for parents. Like veggies, veggies are hard, right? it to roast a sweet potato or butternut squash or beets like we do. You know, it's hours of time and it's just time we don't have. And so that's when I looked at the market. I said, I wanted more veggies. The parents I talk to want more veggies. And veggies are really hard to have enough time to make them, properly make them, right? So that's where I wanted to make make that easier for parents.
29:22Kara Goldin:So when you launched after getting the courage to leave your job and do this research and you launched Little Gourbets, how many SKUs did you launch with and what were the flavors that you launched with? So we launched with three SKUs. They're still around today. Different names now. We had cinnamon beets and apples. Although I think when we first launched, we called it ginger beets and apples, which had kind of two polarizing things in the name. We had a Moroccan squash, which is still around, but called butternut squash and carrots today. And then we had a sweet potato curry, which is still around with a new name, an Indian inspired sweet potato and spinach.
30:12So those three original SKUs have gone through a lot of graphics changes, but they're essentially the same as they were when we launched in terms of the product. The package has changed a lot.
30:24Kara Goldin:So you and I were chatting before we hit record about a big change and big decision that you made after you launched and after you were seeing some traction, you made a decision. Can you speak about that? Yeah. So when I launched the brand, we launched in little cups to really encourage spoon feeding. So we had, I'd say, four principles behind each of the brands. One was the focus on veggies. The other was the focus on flavor. The third was freshness. And then we were trying to encourage spoon feeding in a cup. But as a retail-focused brand, there were a couple things. One, we really struggled on shelf.
31:06We wanted to be merchandise front facing and have, you know, like a good amount of shelf space to stop the parent. But really we were getting stacked high. So we had less than an inch of real estate. And because we were refrigerated and there weren't coolers in the baby aisle at this point, we were in the dairy. And so we really struggled with consumers knowing what we were. They thought we were a hummus or a dip. The other struggle was parents were really moving towards pouches. You know, it's more convenient. It was easier on the go. And so they weren't, they were looking for our help more so on the go than in home, but we, our packaging was, was really messy for on the go.
31:50So it wasn't meeting them where they, where they needed help most. And so I had to kind of really think about how important the cup was to me. I really am a believer that early on kids should be spoon fed because that it helps with hand-eye coordination. It helps with satiety cues and really just tasting the flavors. But I had to just think about it and say, you know what? No parent was probably just handing this cup to their baby and putting it on a high chair because you would have just, the baby would have just swiped it right off that high chair. And so they already were transferring it into like a suction bowl or wanting to reseal it.
32:27So it actually, I had to like take a step back and think about how was the consumer using this? And was I really stopping them from spoon feeding by being in a pouch? And the answer was no, because I would see parents, you know, taking the pouch and kind of just squeezing it onto a spoon. So it made me really think about like negotiables and non-negotiables. And like the cup was actually something that I was just trying to impose because of where the market was when I was the mom of young ones, but it had evolved and I needed to evolve to meet the consumer and the consumer needs. So we spent about five, six years in our cups and we went through four different package designs until I finally realized, oh, it's not the design of the cup.
33:16It is the cup itself. And either I have to pivot to where the market was going or I have to shut down because this was just, it just was not working. And it wasn't what our consumer was telling us they wanted. So it was a big learning for me, truthfully, to put my own like kind of blinders. I feel like I had on with this cup versus pouch, like take them off and see what the market was and what parents really wanted.
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36:43Kara Goldin:Get started by posting your job for free at linkedin.com slash Kara Golden. Terms and conditions apply. That's so interesting. Were grocery buyers sharing this or asking why you're not? Or where did that suggestion come from? I think I finally was able to get my hands on some data. And it was actually another baby food brand who I was talking to regularly. And they said something about, you're building a really nice cup business. And I thought, I'm building a nice cup business. Like, what does that mean? Right? And so I got a hold of some data and I saw the growth trajectory of pouches versus cups, the velocity of pouches versus cups, and just kind of dug into that data and realized I had missed something.
37:37And I'm someone who studies data. I love studying data at craft, but as an entrepreneur, I think I just didn't have enough access or ask enough questions about that piece. So it was just kind of listening and realizing that I was missing something here.
37:56Kara Goldin:It's so interesting. I remember when we were first launching Hint that I loved to have the sports closure on all of my bottles. And it was, but I also wanted to have a product that didn't have sweeteners, didn't have preservatives in it. And the preservative side of, you know, no preservatives was not negotiable for me. And so what I realized with the sport top was that we couldn't seal it properly. And so, and, you know, because there was just air coming through as compared to the flat closures. And anyway, and so we figured, well, two things happened. We were making ourselves crazy with this sport top.
38:44Kara Goldin:And I thought, okay, let's just go try the other. But it was also, it ended up saving us costs. And it was pennies, but pennies matter, right? When you're actually trying to figure out. I'm curious, was there any cost difference in what you're doing? Did it end up to be better? Yeah, it did. Well, it forced, actually, our minimums ended up going up because of the capital needed with pouch fillers and with the co-packers that were doing pouches. So that actually, our minimums went up, but then our costs came down a bit. So it really is. And it actually put us on a path to where we can get to the margins that we need to, which I think with the cup, we had so many pieces.
39:29We had the cup, we had a lid, we had a seal, we had a sleeve. There were just so many parts to it that it really has helped overall. And then just the visibility on shelf, you know, of the real estate that we have now to actually sell. And we know, you know, now the question isn't what is it, right? Now it's very clear we are for babies. And so it's what are the benefits of it rather than what is it? So it's been a really great move for us. Yeah.
40:04Kara Goldin:Exactly. And I think it's also, you know, it's a question no matter what category or industry you're in, in the food or beverage industry, it's like, did you launch your company to become a packaging company? No. Right? I mean, it's like, but I mean, there are numerous stories, like my own stories, but I've heard it from so many different people where you have to be brave enough to kind of and humble enough to be able to say, okay, wait a minute, what are we doing here? So I love that you did what you did. And then you relaunched and took it out. And then, you know, the sky's the limit now. What surprised you most about, I guess, becoming a founder after years in corporate?
40:57Kara Goldin:I would imagine that it was, you know, even though you weren't necessarily dealing as a product manager within craft, the space was already negotiating for anybody that you, maybe any brands that you worked with that were coming in, that space was kind of negotiated in a plan of ground. Now, you're going out to say, hey, do you want some little gourmets? And everybody's like, you're not in the planogram, right? You've got to figure out how to get space. And you don't have budget like some of the large companies have. So all of those aspects, when I talk to friends of mine who have not been dealing with a physical product or anything in the food and beverage, but what was your experience like?
41:51Yeah, I think getting to start, even getting to start just the number of hurdles on the operational side you face from having to get your product packaged in its permanent package for shelf life testing, but you don't have a package, you don't have a sealer, things like that where you're just like every day you're just figuring things out. and you figure it out and you're like, okay, I got that. And then tomorrow brings another issue. I think one of the things in the grocery store that surprises me is how much we need to do to kind of help stock the grocery store, right? Having to send in the merchandisers or just the feet on the street.
42:43I think that is something that you're still like, it's something, there's so many things that a small brand has to help pay for, but they're, or figure out how to do, but it's one or two people and a tiny budget. So CPG, I think I would say it's so much harder than I really ever appreciated. And I think for us, trying to create this category meant that some of the challenges we faced were, who do we even talk to? Who do we talk to to sell this in? Do we talk to a dairy buyer? Do we talk to a produce buyer? Do we talk to a baby buyer? What is the right placement? We spent so much time just thinking about where does our consumer shop?
43:30And I think it's by retailer, right? Like, are they buying other things in that baby aisle? Then we want to be there. But if they're not, then we probably want to be in the dairy. And so I think there's just been so many challenges. I almost can't like narrow it down to one because it's like year by year, right? It's what was the challenge that year and what was the challenge for that day. But I do think that having to own so many of those decisions has been eye opening and it's forced quick decision making, right? Like we can't dwell on every single thing. And so I think that it's been such a development for me to become a founder and to really just have to figure out what really matters and what doesn't.
44:18And I think early on, I thought everything mattered, right? And so I spent way too much time making decisions. And as you get bigger and are doing this longer, and I credit my marketer with really pushing this in me, is what's really going to move the needle? And let's just focus on that because we just don't have the bandwidth or the resources to do all these small things. So how do we just figure out what works? I don't know if I actually answered your question. I kind of went out of tune. No, no, no, no.
44:53Kara Goldin:Oh, I think that's, I think you did for sure. So last question. So Lil Gourmet's is doing super, super well. You're continuing to grow. What are you most excited for with the brand? I mean, as you kind of, whether it's, it's not really a next chapter, it's like the next few pages, right? What do you look forward to? Is it a new distribution point? Is it a new skew? What is it that you're most excited about? I mean, I really am, I guess it's probably the next couple, not the next couple pages because my vision is really like I want to become this sticky brand that really helps elevate childhood nutrition, right?
45:41Like we stop demonizing veggies or thinking veggies are so hard and realize like our kids can learn to love veggies and we can make mealtime fun and easier. And we want to help that, right? So I think getting that research out is something I'm so passionate about because I think if we can get kids early, we can really shape them for life. And the next couple of pages are probably, you know, really succeeding at our current distribution, getting into a few, a handful of other retailers that we have our sights set on that really we know our consumers shopping at, scaling the brand to be able to bring down price points while growing margin so that we can become more accessible to more parents.
46:33And that's kind of what I hope we can accomplished in the next few years and get to that goal then of looking across the grocery store and kids' products and really elevating things with this focus on veggies and nutrient density and flavor.
46:51Kara Goldin:Well, you guys have definitely done such a great job so far, and I cannot wait to see what's coming next. So Shabani Balooja, founder and CEO of Little Gourmets, thank you so much for coming on and sharing the journey. I'm so happy that you're doing what you're doing. And we'll have all the info in the show notes. But for everyone listening, be sure to check out Lil Gourmets and follow what they're doing all over social. And until next time on The Kara Golden Show, thank you again, Shobani. Really, really lovely to have you here. Thank you so much. It was so great to chat. Thanks again for listening to The Kara Golden Show.
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