Laura Ingraham: Trump Changed Politics Forever | KMP Ep.50

4 Aug 2026 · 46 min · 28 chapters

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In short

Laura Ingraham discusses how Donald Trump reshaped politics and conservative media, her career path, how she chooses guests, and her views on journalism, social media, and education.

Guest backgrounds

Laura Ingraham is a long-time conservative media host (Fox primetime) who started in college as editor of the Dartmouth Review, later worked in TV/radio (including MSNBC and CBS before joining Fox in 2003), and has a legal/policy background (law clerk for Justice Clarence Thomas; Reagan administration speechwriter).

Key claims

Trump “blew the old establishment apart” and changed cable norms; MAGA must outlast Trump; legacy media is biased and not truly in public trust; the biggest threat is an uninformed public; social media amplifies bias; AI and modern distractions make deep reading harder.

Notable examples

Dartmouth Review controversy; being fired from MSNBC and CBS; Trump’s 1999 lunch in New York and his offer of a car; Trump’s 2020-era economic and border achievements; COVID origin claim (Wuhan lab funding); Smithsonian museum coverage criticism (e.g., Trump portrait plaque).

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Chapters

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Laura's Journey in Media

1:06 to 2:32

Laura Ingraham discusses her beginnings in conservative media.

“today with the one and only Laura Ingram.”

Transitioning to Fox News

2:32 to 4:52

Laura shares how she transitioned to Fox News and her growth there.

“And I think that introduced me to everyone from, you know, Pat Buchanan to Clarence Thomas to Newt Gingrich.”

The Impact of Trump on Media

4:52 to 6:22

Laura discusses how Trump's arrival changed the media landscape.

“I get my news from a lot of different sources.”

Deciding News Topics

6:22 to 8:19

Laura explains how she decides on news topics for her show.

“What's the most stressful part of doing a live primetime show?”

Challenges of Live Broadcasting

8:19 to 10:21

Laura shares stressful moments and challenges of live television.

“And then like, oh, we'll get it working now.”

Memorable Experiences with Trump

10:21 to 12:55

Laura recounts her memorable interactions with Donald Trump.

“I probably should have thought about that before this podcast.”

Reflections on the MAGA Movement

12:55 to 14:00

Laura reflects on the future of the MAGA movement and its impact.

“And I may have called 30 people or something.”

Trump's Impact on Conservatism

14:00 to 15:20

Discussion on Trump's unique influence on the conservative movement and significant achievements.

“delivered my generation of conservatives.”

The Future of Conservative Media

15:20 to 16:40

Exploring the direction conservative media might take post-Trump.

“the border, and the economy, those three issues.”

The Dangers of Isolation in Media

16:40 to 18:00

In-depth conversation about the risks of isolation in media and the importance of connecting with the public.

“Yeah, you know, I've not spent a lot of time thinking about it.”
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Lessons from Background and Experience

18:00 to 20:00

Ingraham shares her background and the value of real-world experiences for aspiring media professionals.

“And I don't know what you can do about that.”

Challenges for Today's Youth

20:00 to 22:00

Discussing the challenges young people face today, including distractions and the role of AI.

“Do you think that's why legacy journalism is so broken?”

Humor Behind the Scenes at Fox

22:00 to 23:30

Insight into the funny personalities at Fox News when not on camera.

“So I think it's tough to be a kid today.”

The Journey of Adoption

23:30 to 26:00

Laura Ingraham discusses her personal adoption journey and its impact on her views.

“But the behind the scenes people, Tony, who's been directing me in tech for years.”

Views on Immigration and Adoption

26:00 to 28:08

Ingraham shares her perspective on immigration shaped by her adoption experiences.

“How closely did you adopt each of your children?”

Adoption and Abandoned Children

28:08 to 29:12

Discussion about the need for adoption and the challenges faced in finding homes for children.

“Well, the sad thing is because there's so much abortion here, there aren't the kids to adopt here that there was in many decades past.”

Balancing Fame and Family Life

29:12 to 30:28

Laura shares her experiences managing a media career while raising kids.

“I wish I could adopt more, but it's three against one.”

Trump's Last Campaign Rally

30:28 to 33:35

Laura recounts a memorable moment from the 2016 election campaign with her daughter.

“And, you know, my kids aren't political.”

Nostalgic Parenting

33:35 to 34:25

Discussion about favorite stages of parenting and the joy of childhood memories.

“What's been your favorite age to parent?”

Food Preferences and Family Cooking

34:25 to 35:57

Laura talks about her diet, cooking habits, and family meals.

“I do about two nights a week during the week.”

Beauty Routines and Skincare

35:57 to 37:29

Laura discusses her skincare routine and beauty preferences.

“Now we play the game of would you rather.”

Interviewing Style and Guest Selection

37:29 to 38:40

Laura describes her approach to selecting guests for her show.

“Which of your cabinet is your favorite to interview?”

Conspiracy Theories and Current Affairs

38:40 to 39:41

Discussion about beliefs surrounding COVID-19's origins and public misinformation.

“Well, I think it was a conspiracy theory.”

Media's Impact on Public Knowledge

39:41 to 40:52

Exploring the media's role in shaping public perception and knowledge.

“people like Edison, Henry Ford, Galileo, doesn't come along many times.”

The State of Journalism Today

40:52 to 42:07

Laura critiques modern journalism and the lack of objectivity in the media.

“Yeah, I mean, the boss is, the customer is always right, right?”

Media Bias and Historical Narrative

42:07 to 43:21

Explore the perceived bias in media coverage and historical narratives surrounding President Trump and significant events.

“Fun to see people, but it's not really about the country.”

Personal Values and Aspirations

43:21 to 44:25

Discussion on the values instilled in children and aspirations outside of media.

“But make sure the transgender civil rights crusade, that gets adequately expressed at the Smithsonian.”

Dinner Party with Icons

44:25 to 45:15

Imagining an ideal dinner party with historical figures and the meal prepared.

“If you could host a dinner party with three people dead or alive who's sitting at the table and what are you eating?”
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0:00I'm a commentator. I don't pretend to be an objective journalist. I never, I don't pretend to be that. I'm an analyst, so I think I'm a fair one. But these objective journalists who claim that they're, oh, well, we're here for the public trust. I don't, I can't name a journalist who would be considered in the club of journalists today who are really operating in the public trust.

0:20Katie Miller:Do you think MAGA has become bigger than President Trump or it's still inseparable from him? Well, we'll know in 2028, won't we? The movement has to go on beyond Trump. It won't have been a successful movement if it doesn't survive him. He's a unique figure. So to launch from him to the next figure, it won't be the same. How do you pick the guests for your show each night? You know, who does well, obviously. It's like it's a business, so who does well? Who has something to say to advance the narrative? I don't want an echo chamber. I like a give and take. A lot of Democrats won't come on, but we still try.

0:53But I like debating. I like debating people.

1:05Katie Miller:Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Katie Miller Podcast. We're in Washington, D.C. today with the one and only Laura Ingram. Yay! I'm so proud of you for everything you've done with this show. So fast, so incredible. And look, you have this amazing setup. I never come to this part of town. Thank you for your encouragement to do this. More women were doing it and speaking their mind, just like you do every night. I think it's an inspiration to other conservative women that you can be loud and you can have an opinion and you can be made really successful. Absolutely. You've been doing this for how long now?

1:40A few decades there, Katie. A little bit of time.

1:44Katie Miller:How'd you get your start? Well, I think I got my start actually in college because I was editor of a conservative newspaper called the Dartmouth Review, which was very controversial. It was kind of a, you know, Fox News on college campus. And it was the first conservative alternative to kind of the liberal establishment in the Ivy League. And it was it was a wild ride from my freshman year to my senior year in college. It kind of took over my whole college experience. But that was the first taste I got of how slanted the traditional media was against us at the time and how much of a difference a group of like minded people with a sense of, you know, their own sense of right and wrong.

2:31The difference they could make in a small environment like a college environment. So I learned an enormous amount there. And I think that introduced me to everyone from, you know, Pat Buchanan to Clarence Thomas to Newt Gingrich. I mean, and everyone in between. So that's how I got my start.

2:47Katie Miller:You have one of the most coveted roles on Fox, which is one of those primetime hours. How did you get that slot? And how do you stay relevant every night? Because we've seen people leave Fox and become irrelevant. Well, I think I was at MSNBC. That's where I started in television and CBS News at the same time. So I was one of those kind of rare people who happened to be on both networks at the same time. And I did that. I got fired from both jobs. That was fun. I actually learned a lot from getting fired. It's not all a bad thing. Not that I want to get fired right now, but I learned a lot. You know, learned what I was good at and learned what environment I worked in best.

3:27And I remember at one point in time, I can't remember how this happened, but Sean Hannity reached out to me and said, you know, you've got to come work at Fox. And I said, well, I'm doing, you know, I think I was just starting my radio show at the time. And I said, I love radio. I love Fox, but I don't think I want to work for anyone. I want to do my own thing. But then as time went on, it just kind of made sense. So I started at Fox in like 2003 as I was doing my radio show. And then I started filling in for, you know, Bill O 'Reilly and did a lot of stuff with him and Fox and Friends. And it was just super fun.

4:02And it really is kind of like a big family, even though we don't see each other very much. So the network was just getting its footing as the number one cable force in the country. And now with lots of different inputs, media inputs, obviously we're competing with a lot of different media voices. And I think it can make us a lot better because there's a lot more competition. But the country's different. Trump came along like a hurricane and blew the old establishment apart. and he upset the apple cart of the norms that they had gotten used to from globalization to outsourcing to very generous immigration.

4:47And that changed the conversation as well. So Trump changed a lot of how cable television operates.

4:54Katie Miller:Where do you get your news? I get my news from a lot of different sources. X is, I still think, collates some of the best stuff out there. There's no doubt about it. So I don't scroll in the middle of the night, Katie. My staff will never admit that I ever maybe send them things in the middle of the night. They're like, get off X in the middle of the night. So I obviously I look on X, the journal, The Economist, The Spectator. I read as much as I can from the European press, which I usually enjoy laughing at for the most part. But yeah, I get dribs and drabs from everywhere in local news feeds from around the world.

5:32Now with translation, with all the different translations, it's fabulous. So I love that aspect of it.

5:38Katie Miller:How do you decide what leads the show each night versus what's noise? The show is a group project. I'm on camera, but it's a lot of us working. So I tend to have a sense of what I think is best. And it usually lines up with my senior staff. today it would be the Anthony Fauci hearings, obviously. But there might be something that happens at three o 'clock that blows that right off the A block. But usually it's just my instinct from what I've seen and what I always say to people, if I'm not motivated by the topic, it's not going to be a good show. I mean, I have to be invested in it. But after doing this for so long, I have a pretty decent sense of what works.

6:24Katie Miller:What's the most stressful part of doing a live primetime show? Hmm, what's the most stressful? Probably when I'm doing my show from home and one of my kids comes in during a commercial break and then they always know to come in during the break because they know they're going to get what they want because I don't have time to debate them and it's like can I go over to Lila's house just for a little I'm just gonna be over there for a little while and would you have a test don't you have a test tomorrow oh yeah but I'll be right back and then it's like we got 45 seconds so that's kind of the most stressful but it's it's good stress you know there's always the stress and you know this from doing this podcast at the at the last few minutes to get the script right to get the banners right to get I'm I'm kind of a perfectionist a little probably not it's not good sometimes but um I like getting it just right and if it's not just right sometimes it bugs me what's the craziest thing that's happened seconds before you go live we lost power uh seconds before we were coming back from commercial break and literally it was like a freak storm that came like this and everything went black and thank God Raymond Arroyo was actually in New Orleans who could take over the show.

7:43But I think we had about, we had some uncharacteristically long period of time, which could never happen. Felt like an eternity, but it was maybe, I don't know, 30 seconds where we were black and that was not good.

7:58Katie Miller:You record the show from all different places now? Did that happen because it started during COVID or were you doing that before? Yeah, I didn't even have a, Actually, I had no home studio that was working during COVID at all. Really? No, as we approached COVID, excuse me. So we were thinking about putting a studio in my home, and everyone else kind of had studios in the home, but we never got it working. And then like, oh, we'll get it working now. Thank God they got it working miraculously after a couple of years of trying to make it look good or anything right before the pandemic. And I think we tried it once or twice, but I don't think I'd ever used it before we had the pandemic.

8:36Katie Miller:Have you ever been into a mobile studio where you're like, this is not good, this is much harder to do than doing it in my home studio? All the time. The studio vans where I might have been moving my daughter into college a few years ago. And it was about 108 degrees in College Station, Texas. And we had a studio van. The only place we could park it was in front of this one office building. And I remember walking into this van and you couldn't even stand outside. I call it equatorial heat. It's like you're on the equator. We get into the studio van and the very nice tech says, well, Miss Ingram, we can't really put the air conditioning on because it's too loud.

9:21I said, oh my God, well, what are we going to do? Well, how are we going to possibly we do the show? And he's like, well, you're just going to have to get powdered a lot. So that was a little difficult. And then we lose, you know, you have to have a prompter, which I don't really like prompter, but we have to lose prompter. We have to use prompter. So sometimes you lose prompter in a different setting or the little things that viewers would notice. But when you're used to a certain font, when you're used to a certain size font, or the camera's too close, or the camera's too, it's just, you have to roll it.

9:54But it's never, it's like home sweet home. It's never like being at the Fox Bureau, which is where we prefer to do the show, obviously.

10:00Katie Miller:Who's been your favorite interview of your career? Oh my goodness. It's probably I mean, it's probably Trump. That's such an easy answer, but I don't have to tell you this, Katie. I mean, when our kids have their kids the one president they're going to be talking about from the last 50 years is, other than Reagan, I think, is Trump. So it's got to be him. Who's your dream interview? Hmm. I probably should have thought about that before this podcast. There's only a few people left in Hollywood that I really want to interview. But there was actually, I might want to interview, and I think we've tried it, Oliver Stone.

10:49He's a wild man and completely bizarre in so many ways. He's also genius in other ways. He's done some films that are fascinating and some films that I would be like. Clint Eastwood, I always wanted to interview. So Clint Eastwood would probably be the number one person. And Stone would be a close second.

11:13Katie Miller:What's the funniest interaction you've ever had with President Trump?

11:18Probably the funniest interaction, the first time I met him was 1999. I was in New York.

11:30Katie Miller:Does he remember meeting you back in 1999? Yes. We were in New York at a restaurant that's no longer there called Le Cirque. I was just starting out in the media and friends of mine knew him. and like, oh, so we had lunch with this other friend. And afterward, first of all, I had a vision of Donald Trump. I thought, kind of rolling my eyes, like, oh, he's a celebrity. He thinks he's so great. Like, oh. And I was so shocked that during this lunch, he talked nothing, almost nothing about himself. All he wanted to do was find out, how do you make your money in radio? What's the revenue stream? How do you get commercials?

12:17And by the end of this lunch, I realized he was just mapping my whole business plan out. And by and then I saw it's like, gosh, I didn't get to really talk to him about his life. And and then at the end of it, he looks at me and he says, you know, why don't you take my car and just go around town and you can call all your friends. You can kind of do a, you know, whole Ferris Bueller's Day off in my car. You can go go through the moonroof. And he said, but make sure to use these antibacterial wipes because New York is filthy. So take, and he gives me a whole stack of wipes. I still joke with him about that.

12:55And I may have called 30 people or something. It's like, guess where I am. It was like the most pathetic thing, but I did go all around the city. It was fun.

13:04Katie Miller:What's the last time you told President Trump, I think you're wrong on this? Three or four days ago. on which subject? I'm not going to reveal that, but yeah, there was, I mean, we're old friends. So, you know, I think good, the best friends tell you when, in their opinion, you're kind of, maybe it's time to go back on this course, but I'm not saying I'm right. But when you're a friend, you do that. And he knows that I, you know, I don't want anything from him, never have. I just want him to be successful. And I want the country to be as great as it was when I was a kid growing up for my kids.

13:42Katie Miller:Do you think MAGA has become bigger than President Trump or it's still inseparable from him? Well, we'll know in 2028, won't we? The movement has to go on beyond Trump. It won't have been a successful movement if it doesn't survive him. So like Reaganism delivered my generation of conservatives. So Reagan had a huge impact. I think Trump will, I don't have any doubt that the movement will continue, but he's a unique figure. So to launch from him to the next figure, it won't be the same, never is. But the principles of America first, I think they're winning, they're winners. What do you think is the defining achievement so far?

14:32I think the border and the economy. I mean, I think we're the strongest economy in the G7 if it weren't for COVID and the lockdowns and the mail-in ballots that kind of were ushered in from lockdowns. We might have had a different outcome in 2020. But I think without a doubt, the economy, even with the difficulty with energy prices because of the war right now, and the middle class wages going up in the first term for the first time in 20 years. The median income went up, what,$6 ,000 almost. But without a doubt, exposing what the bipartisan cabal in Washington had done on immigration and the border and restoring our border in the second term and trade relationships, without a doubt.

15:19It means trade, the border, and the economy, those three issues.

15:22Katie Miller:Where do you think conservative media is headed over the next decade? I don't know. I think, you know, everybody's kind of jockeying for their own place, which is, you know, it's to be expected. I mean, for the last decade of our lives, Donald Trump has been the central driving force of debate. People are going to have to find their place post-Trump. And for me, I say this to him, his views as expressed in 2016 were my views for most of my media career. It was immigration, China, the border, and a strong defense. I kind of parted ways with the Bushes in 2006, and I love them as people, But, you know, they just weren't strong enough on immigration for me.

16:18Katie Miller:When you see the great podcaster war of 2020, I would say 25, 26, now that we're still in it. Do you think that's because they're all searching for individual relevance when they're not talking about President Trump? Or is it that they're trying to carve out a space? What is it that makes somebody attack somebody else? Yeah. Instead of just doing your own thing? Yeah, you know, I've not spent a lot of time thinking about it. I see snippets here and there of people saying this or that. And having hosted a radio show for 17 years for three hours a day, all across the country and traveling the country, I think there's a real risk of, and I put myself in this category, of isolating ourselves in our little bubbles, in our little studios, and not spending enough time with the American people.

17:13And I think the more you kind of separate yourself, the harder it is for you to see the big picture, even if you're really smart. And a lot of these guys, and I know them all, they're very smart people. And I think most of them just want the country to be better. But get out with the people more to the extent you can and listen to what their concerns are.

17:39Katie Miller:Do you think social media concerns are not the same as listening to people on the street? Well, I think, you know, the old criticism of the algorithm, there's legitimacy there. Because we do tend to feed our own biases. And I sound kind of liberal. I never sound liberal. I kind of said liberal saying that. But, you know, you see that, you know. And I don't know what you can do about that. But I try and maybe I'm successful at it, maybe I'm not. But I try just to say what I think. And, you know, maybe I could have been more successful if I'm like, F you. You're pretty successful. Well, there's a lot of people who are like, F you this and F you that.

18:27Katie Miller:I mean, come on. You know, I don't know. What's your most liberal take? Liberal take on anything? Yeah. That's probably animals. I'm an animal softy. Like, I have been known to try to resuscitate quail and pheasants that have been shot in a hunting trip. It's nice. But I would never, you know, I don't want to ban hunting or anything like that, but I just am a softy about animals. And probably a little bit on the environment, but not the ban drilling or any of that. If someone went to become the next Laura Ingraham, would you tell them to go into radio, podcasting, cable TV? I'd tell them to learn, read a lot, study deeply, think deeply, and do something different first.

19:09I think there's an enormous amount of benefit that young people get by just getting out in the world and working. And, you know, when young women come up to me, I want to be in the media. I invariably will say in response, go do something first. So I was a lawyer. I clerked for a couple of years on the Second Circuit in New York, walked right through the Trade Center buildings every day of court. I was blessed enough to clerk for Justice Thomas, worked at a big law firm, was a speechwriter in the Reagan administration. Yes, I'm that old. So I did a lot. I mean, I was incredibly lucky. But that and my upbringing of blue collar kind of upbringing in America is what defined me.

20:03Katie Miller:Do you think that's why legacy journalism is so broken? That they're coming right out of a liberal institution going straight into journalism? Well, I think so because you start getting a very inflated view of your own self-worth because you're on TV. It's like, OK, well, a lot of podcasters have bigger audiences than TV hosts. And because you're on TV doesn't mean that you relate to the average person. And I always tell my kids this. I wouldn't trade my background as far as great public schools, a mother who worked her ass off for her kids, the town I grew up in, the friends that filled in along the edges when my mother was working or my father had his own struggles.

20:59I wouldn't trade that for anything. I'm so glad we didn't have phones, so glad we didn't have computers, so glad we had to kind of figure stuff out. Now that world is gone. So it's much more difficult for young people, I think, to try to like dig down, dig deep, read more. And I say this to my own kids. Read more.

21:19Katie Miller:Do you think AI will make that more difficult? Yes. And there's huge benefits. I'm not one of those people like, oh, AI, throw up your hands, say the world's coming to an end. No. But it is not a substitute for reading books, for understanding how this country started, why it started, why 250 matters. Reagan always said this, and he said this in his farewell speech to the nation.

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21:50Understand what the pilgrims came here for, what the struggles were of America. Because if you don't understand the struggles of every generation, you will not be invested in this country going forward. So I think it's tough to be a kid today. They have a lot more, but they have a lot more challenges.

22:13Katie Miller:There's a lot more toys. Distractions. I do not think I would have been the writer or the reader or the thinker that I try to be. today if I had those distractions because I'm easily, you know, distractible. Who's secretly the funniest person at Fox when the cameras aren't rolling? When the cameras aren't rolling. Hold on a second. There's a lot of funny people at Fox. I well, I would say, well, she's not at Fox anymore, but Judge Jeanine is truly one of the funniest people. She can actually not a lot of people can make me laugh, Katie, but she can make me laugh. And, you know, obviously Raymond Arroyo is a great friend of mine.

23:00He's extremely funny. But he comes out of, you know, the theater and, you know, he was a theater kid and was a writer too. So, he's a writer.

23:09Katie Miller:Who is even nicer in person when they appear on TV? Shannon Bream, Bret Baier. Oh, Bret Baier is hysterical. Sorry, Bret Baier is also hysterical. One of the best impersonators, impressionists, very, very talented and has a very dry sense of humor. Hannity's like my brother. We've known each other for over 30 years. Shannon Bream is an amazing individual. It's like the Academy Awards. I'm leaving people out. But the behind the scenes people, Tony, who's been directing me in tech for years. I love someone who says, I always got your back, Ingram. Don't worry about that. He's like, Tony, you know who you are.

23:54I love you, ma 'am. Great people.

23:55Katie Miller:Who sends the most typos? Most typos? Yeah, like in an email. Oh. Well, I don't read my email. I think I have 40 ,000 emails in my Fox inbox. I never read them because people know how to get me. It may be someone who I can't name because I'll get in trouble. But not a superior. Someone who... Who's the last to leave the Christmas party?

24:23Isn't Griff Jenkins? It could be. I don't know why. I don't know.

24:27Katie Miller:I don't tend to go to the Christmas parties. I go to a little bit, but I'm boring. I have three kids. I go home early. Do Fox hosts hang out after work, or does everyone disappear the second the red light goes off? They tend to disappear, because I think, as you know, you're rushing home. You're balancing 100 million things. Who's your best friend at Fox? My best friend is probably Sean Hill. You're the mother of three children? Yes. At what point in your career did you decide to have children? Well, it's a long story, but I had breast cancer in 2005, and I was engaged at that time. And then that kind of, the cancer was detected, and then the engagement was off, and we were going to have kids right away.

25:13And I was like, God, I always thought, I always really, I felt called to have children. And so after kind of the treatments wrapped up, you know, I did chemo and radiation. It wasn't fun, but, you know, I got through it. And I kept doing my radio show throughout, which really kept me going and my friends and my family. I started the process of examining adoption. And it was a multi-year process, and it was a lot. I tried to adopt domestically, but a couple of those fell through, and it was really demoralizing. memorializing. And then I spoke Spanish pretty well. And my Russian is very good, my Russian language, because I lived in the Soviet Union as a student.

25:56And so I just started that process and various agencies and seven trips to Russia. And yeah, two weeks at a time. It was a lot.

26:06Katie Miller:How closely did you adopt each of your children? My daughter was first in 2008. My next son was two years later, a year and a half later, and my next son was another year and a half later. Are you a strict mom or a softie? Well, I'm strict unless they get me at a vulnerable time where I'm in the middle of something. But I'm pretty strict. I worry about the kids. What's one parenting rule you've become much more flexible than you expected? don't sweat the small stuff. If your room is a mess, at some point, I just gave up on that. Like, the room is like, every time I come into my middle son, Dimitri's room, now he's 18, the furniture is in a different place.

27:03Like, yesterday I went in there, and there's a, the bench from, I have a little home gym. The bench, which is two floors down, is really heavy. It's somehow in the middle of his room and there's LED lights lining every crevice of the room. It's like Vegas in his room. When did you have time to do this? Well, I just don't want to go downstairs to the gym. I said, wait a second. You brought all the weight stacks. And then I said, you know, I just threw up my hands. I'm like left. So stuff like that. He enjoys doing stuff like that. The kids all have their funny little personality. You got to let them express themselves in those ways.

27:41Katie Miller:You know firsthand what it takes to legally bring children into this country. Has that shaped your personal views on immigration and your philosophy on how others should be able to do that? Yeah, I think that adoption, I think a lot of people think and have said, well, why did you go overseas to get a kid? There's all these kids here. Well, the sad thing is because there's so much abortion here, there aren't the kids to adopt here that there was in many decades past. Far fewer. So that's number one. And number two, there is a need internationally for children who are abandoned, who have no one.

28:32And in a lot of countries, and Russia doesn't allow adoption anymore. Obviously, with the war, we wouldn't be doing that. But I think one of my sons was one of the last kids out of Russia. Children are children. They're children. Like bringing them into the country legally versus putting them in a migrant caravan to be raped and trafficked and abused is something completely different. So I don't think there's no disconnect there. But if you can help a child in need, I certainly help, I think, my fair share of charitable endeavors. But if you can help a child in need who has no one, I think that's what it's all about.

29:12Katie Miller:You mentioned earlier that... I wish I could adopt more, but it's three against one. That was good enough for me. You mentioned earlier that you liked doing the show at 10 p.m. is that because you were able to put the kids to bed and put them all down and then get back to the show yeah back then they were they were younger so 16 18 21 now so it's a different world now but when they were younger could have dinner and then go back to work and seven o 'clock is a fast day it doesn't seem like it but it's like this and i'm like sprinting like before i could kind of take my time right but it's it's fast so i'm kind of a i i adjusted because i've always been an early morning person.

29:51But I realized for the first year and a half of my Fox show, I still did my radio show. So I was literally burning, not literally, but burning the candle at both ends. I was working in the morning early until noon. And then I was picking back up to do the 10 o 'clock show. And one of my producers at the time, Tommy, and then Raymond said, you can't keep doing this. The kids are little. And it was insane. So I stopped that.

30:17Katie Miller:How have your kids handled your fame? They're just, I mean, I think it's like, and you have the same, they just get used to it. You know, they don't know anything different. And, you know, my kids aren't political. They're not political people. They're just regular kids. And so I don't encourage them to go into what I do at all. And they're just, I'm just mom. And I happen to be on TV every night. But it's just part of the deal. But they love President Trump and they've enjoyed, you know, one of the most, one of the things I'll remember most about 2016 was it was, I think, November 3rd, right?

31:00It was a Monday or Sunday night before the election. And it was Trump's last big day. He did five cities in one day, one of those days. Do you remember this? One of those days he ended in Leesburg, Virginia. He was supposed to be in Leesburg at midnight. Well, of course the day was, forget it, it was a very, very long day. And so I said to my daughter, who was 12, or 11, I said, let's pull you out of school, let's go to this rally and let's see President Trump. She's like, okay, can my friends come?

31:37Katie Miller:So I guess a couple of her friends, down this neighbors came. And we drove out to Leesburg and one of the guys who was organizing said, do you want to speak? I said, sure. We got there and it was the moment I knew Trump was going to win. I had a decent sense from the radio show what people were saying that he had a real shot. But that night we get to, it was freezing. It's like one of those uncharacteristically cold November nights, early November nights. I'm like, oh my God, where are we? There were lights, trails of lights, flashlights through these paths in the woods going to the Leesburg Fairground.

32:14I was like, oh, my God, what is happening? There were, I mean, it was hours in traffic to get into this place. We get in. There is a line. I still have a video. Lines sneaking through the forest to get to the woods to get to where this thing was going to be. And there were people in wheelchairs, people with children on their shoulders. People just lined up and they were there for hours because they wanted to see Trump on his last big stop. So we get there and Trump didn't come. He was late by like two hours. And Maria's like, Mom, I'm getting tired.

32:51Katie Miller:I said, I said, well, come on, hold on. She's like, OK, OK. Finally, we got word that Trump landed at Dulles. He pulls up with his motorcade. We're standing right there. Crowd's going crazy in the pavilion. and only about 2 ,000 could get let in. And there were, I sound like Trump, there were like 40 ,000 in the woods, couldn't get in. And we're standing there. Trump comes out of the car and he looks at us. He looks at Maria and he said, well, why are you guys late? Like, you were late getting here. I'm like, okay. He just was funny. And so then he steps up and starts speaking. And it was a wild end to the wildest campaign I've ever reported on.

33:35And that was the coolest memory. But my daughter grew up with it. And now she's a college junior.

33:42Katie Miller:What's been your favorite age to parent? Well, I think the teenage years, it's not gonna sound too insightful, but are not my favorite. I think the five, six, seven, till like 10. I love that age. But, you know, now it's funny when the kids are older, you like every age. Like, oh, I wish you were 18 again. I wish you were 15 again. But I love that little age where they're still curious and they still want to cuddle. And they're still, mommy, mommy, mommy. When are you coming home? I saved all my voicemail messages. Like, when are you coming home? When are you going to do a bedtime story? You know, and I can't wait to have grandkids.

34:24I can't wait.

34:26Katie Miller:What do you eat in a typical day? um i eat a lot of tuna so boring like tuna salad i like barbecue potato chips sorry rfk jr i like um i like steak um i like sushi i eat a lot of tuna like like i don't know that kind of tuna raw tuna and um i like a lot of slow cooker stuff i make a lot in the slow cooker so it's easy do Do you cook for your family before the show? I do about two nights a week during the week. It's hard to do it otherwise. So, you know, we don't do takeout all the time, but the kids chip in now because they're older. Nico, my youngest, is a pretty good cook. So he likes to cook.

35:08I like making my roast chicken, which is my favorite. And it's actually so easy to make a roast chicken. I stuff it and do all the vegetables around it.

35:16Katie Miller:What's the best thing your kids make? Nico likes making his, you know, pasta, you know, dish with marinara and hamburger and that kind of a thing that always tastes good and you can keep it forever. What's your skincare routine? I wash my face every day, Katie, at least once. I just I just use like the whatever I have. I don't have like a I don't have like a big routine of like I'm going to use like some crazy expensive stuff. although um i do like um like a natural toner to use at the end of the makeup the makeup is a lot every day it's a lot so if i had a dollar for all how do you keep your skin from breaking out yeah it sometimes does but that's usually chocolate if i eat chocolate or tomatoes for some reason tomatoes like raw tomatoes or chocolate or too much citrus i still break out But otherwise, my skin's not bad.

36:16I try to do kind of basic skin care.

36:19Katie Miller:Now we play the game of would you rather. Do this every episode. Would you rather spend a week as chief of staff for Kamala Harris or one month as a guest host on The View?

36:33Kamala Harris.

36:35Katie Miller:Would you rather have to sing your opening monologue or rhyme the entire show? Sing the opening monologue. You gave me a great idea. That's a good one. Would you rather clean glitter off the floor or unclog a kitchen sink with your hands? With the hands, the kitchen sink, as long as the disposal's not on. Would you rather do a show with perfectly styled hair but no makeup or with flawless makeup but messy hair? Ooh. Probably messy hair, better makeup, I guess. I don't know. Both are bad. Both options are really bad. Would you rather compete on The Amazing Race with Judge Jeanine or Dancing with the Stars with Greg Gutfeld?

37:17Ooh.

37:21I think I want to do both, but I think Judge Jeanine, I don't know. Judge Jeanine, although Greg's going to be mad at me, but Judge Jeanine.

37:32Katie Miller:Which of your cabinet is your favorite to interview? Besson. Why? Why? He has like a very dry sense of humor that I cry laughing. He's so smart and he's so funny and our kids get along really well. So yeah, I adore him. How do you pick the guests for your show each night? You know, who does well, obviously. It's like it's a business. So who does well? Who has something to say to advance the narrative? I don't want an echo chamber. I like a give and take. A lot of Democrats won't come on, but we still try. But I like debating. I like debating people. And so, you know, when I interview President Trump, you know, I'll talk to him about, you know, why are we still letting these Chinese students in the country?

38:21Like, why are we still doing this? But, you know, it's a legitimate question. So it's not like, you're great. How great are you? You know, we're so great tonight.

38:31Katie Miller:Yeah, we're so great. So I don't like echo chamber interviews. I want someone who can tell me something I don't already know. What's a conspiracy theory that you believe in?

38:46Katie Miller:Conspiracy theory. Well, I think it was a conspiracy theory. It turned out obviously not to be the whole origin of COVID. But it obviously didn't start in a wet market, as Anthony Fauci said innumerable times. started in the Wuhan lab and we helped fund it. What's the first app you open in the morning? Twitter. Oh, sorry, X. What's the last book you read? This is the Isaacson biography of Musk, which I just finished. Really? Unbelievable. You hadn't read it before? I hadn't read it before. It's a long book. But now my son's reading it. He's still in it for me. But it's incredible from beginning to end.

39:27What a life.

39:28Katie Miller:They say they need to do like a second version because it cuts off to a... Yeah, but it's still, it's his, what I loved about it was his drive to do the unthinkable, what people thought wasn't possible in his singular drive to advance knowledge, which people like Edison, Henry Ford, Galileo, doesn't come along many times. What do you think is the biggest threat to America today? An uninformed public, a generation that doesn't know what came before. Do you think the legacy media wants to keep America stupid? Dumb and numb, smoke pot, smoke a lot of pot, weed's fine, right? That's the message we get.

40:17More people are using weed regularly now than alcohol, we learned yesterday. So it's pot, porn, online gambling, and surface knowledge.

40:31Instagram, TikTok.

40:32Katie Miller:No, nothing against them, but that's not knowledge. Kelsey Grammer had said that sitcoms really aren't funny anymore because the writers stopped trusting their audience. Oh, yeah, I would say that. And don't you think that, like, the legacy media has become such a culture that where they're pushing their own viewpoints instead of letting the public make up their own? Yeah, I mean, the boss is, the customer is always right, right? So when Norman Lear did All in the Family, you weren't even alive, But in the 70s, we have like 27 million people watching that every Sunday night. And it offended everybody.

41:09Katie Miller:That's why SNL is not funny. Right. Well, again, humor, you hear humor all day long on the street. Like you get out on the street here, you'll hear people ribbing each other, laughing at each other. People in their own circles tend to be a lot funnier. And people were different. Once they let go of all the politics, that's where the real humor comes out. But that's fun. Like, I grew up hearing Polish jokes. I'm half Polish. So it was Polish jokes, Italian jokes. None of us took it that seriously. Not that, you know, you like being made fun of. But it became part of the, you know, mean-spiritedness is different, like real mean-spiritedness.

41:46But Don Rickles was one of my favorite comedians. I mean, he's just hysterically funny.

41:52Katie Miller:Do you think we should still have a White House correspondence dinner? I think it's become, it's not my cup of tea, but everyone, someone called it the nerd prom years ago. I used to go a long time ago. It was fun. I had some fun experiences. Fun to see people, but it's not really about the country. And again, we saw this with the Mueller investigation. We saw this with how they covered COVID. We've seen this and how they even cover the economy. An agenda from the legacy media. I'm a commentator. I don't pretend to be an objective journalist. I don't pretend to be that. I'm an analyst, so I think I'm a fair one.

42:40But these objective journalists who claim that they're, oh, well, we're here for the public trust. No, no. I can't name a journalist who would be considered in the club of journalists today who are really operating in the public trust or for the

43:03Katie Miller:public good, for the public knowledge. So we have an informed public. I mean, they're circling the wagons now, Katie, for the Smithsonian Institution. It's ridiculous. I mean, certain things are worthy of being recorded as history, and certain things aren't to these people. So the March for Life, longest running march in American history, that doesn't count. But make sure the transgender civil rights crusade, that gets adequately expressed at the Smithsonian. The National Portrait Gallery, I remember going in between President Trump's first and second term, and the plaque on his portrait was like, he caused an insurrection in this country.

43:43Yeah.

43:43Katie Miller:And that's what they want to remember President Trump for. If that's not biased, I'm not sure what is. Yeah. Well, again, you can do that. You can have your museums making fun of conservatives or the pro-life. Go for it. But when it's tax dollars, I mean, they make fun of conservatives in films, songs, you know, cable TV. Go for it. That's no problem. but don't use our tax dollars and then give us a one-sided view of American history. If you weren't hosting a nightly TV primetime show, what would you be doing? I'd probably be a high school sports athletics coach. That's probably, probably be a field hockey coach.

44:21Katie Miller:What's the biggest value you're trying to instill in your children? Hard work, hard work and family. If you could host a dinner party with three people dead or alive who's sitting at the table and what are you eating? It's got to be eating homemade pasta, like real fabulous homemade pasta. Like you make the pasta at home, the sauce at home, the tomatoes from the garden, and some fabulous conversation. Do you garden? Well, this year was a struggle. I had a little problem with my garden this year, but yes, normally I garden. And I have poison ivy all over my arms from weeding, so I can test the fact.

45:00It looks like stigmata. That's scary. So who would I have at the dinner? George Washington, Booker T. Washington, and Frank Sinatra.

45:14Katie Miller:It's a good one. Yeah. Three of the greats. Thank you so much for doing this. So much fun. I hope we do it again. Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Katie Miller Podcast. We'll be back next week, 6 p.m. on Tuesday nights. See you then.

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