MAHA Moms Unleash Against the Woke Mob | KMP Ep.44

22:21Katie Miller:No, I put on Gilmore girls and like the next thing, you know, I'm like, I think it's time to push and then like I sneeze a baby and there it is. I loved a heating pad. I will say that was my my hack especially prior to the epidural when I'm sitting there contracting you're like freezing you want to throw up it was so awful but then heating pad that was my hack I loved it. I'll say this again out loud but I'm very Maha we drink raw milk in my household we are very organic we We use organic cleaning supplies like vinegar. I'm talking my kids don't do sugar. We are clean as clean can be. But come 37 weeks, I believe in all forms of pharmaceutical interventions.

23:02Katie Miller:I believe in all forms of big pharma. I joke that Pfizer makes a great epidural. I hear they do wonderful things. But the second the baby is born, we are back to full maha. and that child is we're debating on whether or not we do vitamin k this time because vitamin k is very important for circumcisions yeah i know having a boy and it was we were talking about this part filming but i felt like for me granted it was a girl and so even so but you you read again the things online and they say well your child won't be able to to clot blood in the brain and let's say you get in a car crash on your way home well guess what your baby's gonna die because and they're not going to be able to clot their blood.

23:44So there was a lot of scary things that were put out there, and you don't really know what to do. Have you found, though, with, and I guess maybe the variants of your children, you've approached, especially the vaccine stuff, in different ways?

23:59Katie Miller:So my first daughter, I could say is fully vaccinated, but we kind of paused and haven't resumed. My middle child is more so. My third child is even less so. and we've had a lot of conversations about what we're doing with this child. But again, like our life circumstances have changed dramatically. Like my first daughter was in a preschool setting with lots of other children. They're homeschooled now. They don't go into crowded areas with lots of kids. And I think that changes dramatically. Should we take our kids to Disney or should we take our kids to like a large theme park where there's a lot of people from other countries?

24:37Katie Miller:But so far I've been forced into making a choice because I will say this for everybody watching. I do believe there's a benefit of vaccinations, especially for kids. It does come at the risk, though, of all healthy children in our country. And I believe we should always work towards having healthy children for everybody, not just healthy children for some. And so I struggle with that because I want my kids to benefit from herd immunity, so to speak, is what they're currently benefiting from. Right. But at the expense to what? because I understand a lot of illnesses are because of dirty water, dirty food, which is not something we have in the United States.

25:14Katie Miller:But if you look at kind of the origins of, say, I think it's the Hantavirus, it's coming from an area with unclean food and unclean water. I'm not trying to interview you, so forgive me, but I'm curious. Do you feel like that sort of mindset or outlook on the vaccine stuff is welcomed in conservative spaces? or do you think there's more people who think like that than maybe were led on to believe in the conservative space? Because I feel like, you know, kind of, well, I guess I can kind of say outside looking in, but now kind of being involved with having a child of our own, it's like very much you have one camp where it's no vaccines ever at any point.

25:52And on this side, you have fully vaccinated or you're a horrible human being who deserves CPS to come into your home and take your children.

25:59Katie Miller:No, I do agree. I think there is, I think just like all politics, everything is so divisive and you're either in this camp or you're in this camp. And I find myself with vaccinations because it's so personal and it's my children's privacy that I tend to not speak up on it as much as I want to or should have, because it's something we still talk about and are not settled on in my own household. That makes sense. Where I stand on vaccines for my kids is I do believe, and I will say this for everyone who wants to know, at some point, all of my children will have the MMR vaccine. I don't believe that they should get it at one year old.

26:34Katie Miller:I do believe it's fine by five years years old because I don't want to ever take my kids into a setting and have to worry about them getting measles. I don't want my children to be the spreader of measles. I think I, as a mom, could not handle my child getting the measles. What are some of the symptoms of measles? I don't even know if I really it's like I think it's a rash I'm pretty sure it's high fever the illness goes on for two weeks it can cause seizures and can cause brain damage and does that happen to every child who gets it no of course not and I think there's also some studies that indicate it also increases the susceptibility of cancer that it prevents you from getting cancer later in life which is very attractive don't get me wrong but given that my mom has stage four cancer but I stand firmly on the side that says I would want to vaccinate my children we do spread it out but I also understand that vaccination does create risk like I think that more doctors should tell you that it does create risk especially for young babies and especially you should not and like at any point I don't want to have COVID the flu and maybe a RSV at the same time my body would go into like shock right and so that's the same as giving your child three vaccines in one day i would say the red flag for me well certainly covid um i was in college at the time but being a college athlete where you know they sat us all down and told us you have to have this it's mandatory it's required and it just didn't sit right with me because in their offering of this vaccine they said you get a free krispy kreme donut and i'm like the donut cost a $1.29.

28:11Like why, why is that like such a huge like ploy to get people in? It just, it wasn't that appealing to me. So it was a red flag. And I kind of recognized then that required, it really didn't necessarily mean mandatory. You can't make me get that or, or what you're going to take my scholarship away. You're not going to let me swim. And they tried to say that. And I pushed back and I said, okay, well, that's fine. And guess what? I never got the code vaccine. And yes, of course I got to swim all four years with, with no hindrance beside getting my like brain tickled with a Q-tip every single week.

28:43But anyway, so COVID really opened my eyes, I think, especially to how profitable a business big pharma really is. But in talking about newborn vaccines, I remember being so like dumbfounded and learning about what was in the vaccines, mercury, aluminum, yet I wasn't, I was advised by my OB to stay away from tuna or fish because it has high levels of mercury in it when I was pregnant. So I'm like, wait, you don't want me to have mercury, but you're going to inject my baby moments, you know, her first moments on this earth with copious amounts of mercury. And we're making this huge shift to aluminum free deodorant.

29:21Yet this vaccine has like 30 times the FDA recommended amount of what is even safe of aluminum. And you're going to inject my baby within minutes of her arrival on this planet.

29:33Katie Miller:My biggest struggle, and I say this to all of the people who currently work for President Trump in the health space, so I will say this is an issue in which I do advocate on for all the people who want to know what I'm paid to advocate on, is breastfeeding. I really cannot get over that we do not say as a country breastfeeding is best. I have no problem with people who give, or moms who give their children formula. Two of my children were formula fed. I have three kids, which means one was breastfed. I stand firmly on the side that our government and our country should say that breastfeeding is best for children It does not mean it works for everybody.

30:09Katie Miller:It does not mean it's easy It does not mean you should but I don't know why we do not say that as a standalone scientific fact and that calls into question for me Everything else to that point hundred percent I don't have a ton to compare it to but I will say just with only having one child who is breastfed She is the happiest healthiest baby you could possibly imagine like smiling all the time has slept through the night since day one and again i know that's not everyone's experience and i'm not trying to discount or discredit uh you know other moms or other experiences but she's breastfed she's not vaccinated she's the happiest healthiest baby and you're right though the breastfeeding journey or experience for me at least has been significantly harder not really hard i should say it's more inconvenient, I guess.

31:02It takes a lot of time out of my day. You have to really sit down and schedule. It's not a duty or an obligation that you can kind of pass on to someone else or outsource. You have to do it. So it's inconvenient to a degree, I guess. But when you think about the benefits, oh my gosh, entirely worth it.

31:20Katie Miller:It's medical science needs to talk more about the gut microbiome and how it puts children ahead for success without saying that like it's okay that you don't breastfeed not it doesn't work out for everybody and it doesn't work out for every mother whether that's for their mental health or their physical health but yet we're sit there and told that formula is equal to that of breast milk when it's just fundamentally untrue and that's where I struggle with the same thing with vaccinations is if you're gaslighting me in one area of science why aren't you gaslighting me in the others and of course you are that's right but you know when it comes to vaccinations is I do believe there are vaccination injuries that happen to children and it's at what expense do you tolerate it how many vaccine injuries do you tolerate for the benefit of society and civilization we've seen some movement from HHS I think even Secretary Duffy I can remember the like press conference they had at I think it was at the DCA airport where they have like a pull-up bar but I think one of the initiatives in making airports more family friendly was putting more nursing pods in airports.

32:21So hopefully that is something that will maybe encourage parents, moms to breastfeed, especially in public, because it can be uncomfortable. You know, when you're on an airplane, even my, my flight over here, I remember, especially the first few months, I would like not breastfeed in public.

32:38Katie Miller:I give no fucks. Yeah. Now I'm at the point where I'm like, okay, also, but no one else does either. as at least what I've realized unless you're a total creep or a weirdo or a perv or or just someone who's a degenerate really no one else really cares so long as you're covered although I will say I was at um HHS is when they did the unveiling of the new upside down food pyramid yeah um I was on stage sat behind RFK and there's a woman next to me and she just whips out a tit and like a baby just jumps on her boob I'm like oh my gosh I've like never seen something quite like this and like the child was kind of older this is so interesting but you go mom I guess like in front of everyone I couldn't do that no I don't know about that but now I'm at the point again especially covered you wear a big baggy shirt yeah throw around a boob no one even notices no no no um what's the most unhinged thing you've googled at three o 'clock in the morning oh the most unhinged thing I've googled at three o 'clock in the morning I will say especially in the first few weeks after having your baby there's a lot of there's a lot of that what's the stupidest thing you purchased and shopping oh okay i'm like capitalism's worst nightmare um i'm an influencers like like dream clientele like pop up on on my for you page and you're influencing me to buy something like i will buy it like what is it what do i need this hair dryer that costs like 600 bucks blow dries your hair gets all the flyway put it in my cart by checkout immediately um so there's a lot there's a lot I would say like baby gadget wise um our daughter being seven months old we just got in the mail yesterday this like amazing little walker thing and so it's so funny last night I was in the bathroom getting ready and I put her in her walker just right outside the bathroom and I'd see her just walking in the bathroom on her little her little four wheels um so i don't know i'm a chronic a chronic shopper i shouldn't really say shopper i'm really not like i don't feel like i'm the stereotypical girl shopper necessarily but i love adding things to my cart i have a harder time like really clicking you know pulling the trigger but if you go to like my shopping cart on like free people anthropology amazon they're all filled i just need to like click i hate when the cart gets cleared by i know right it's annoying what's been the personal cost of becoming a voice on such hot button issues?

34:59Katie Miller:You know, I think I've changed significantly in my mindset and my perspective on things. So you would have asked me this two, three years ago. I would have told you that it's really hard to read horrible comments about yourself, to see false headlines, to be called all the names. I know you're called them too. Do you read the headlines? No, not anymore. I mean, I just won't read comments at all. They're the same every time. So it's like, these people are so unoriginal. People will say like, oh, Riley, you got fifth place. I think they're forgetting number one, it's fifth place in the entire country.

35:40I think they're forgetting number two, that that's not even my issue is what place I came in. It's the fact that there was a man in the pool with us. Who cares? I could have gotten 185th place. It doesn't matter. There was a man in the pool. Do you wish you'd have gotten first though? Of course, of course. But they say that, and I think they want me to attack. Why don't you criticize the girls who got one or first, second, third, or fourth if your whole issue is not winning? Again, those women beat me rightfully, so I've lost many, many times in my career. That's not my issue, of course. So the comments, they're unoriginal.

36:13They're people saying, you know, maybe you should have just swam faster. I'm like, genius. I actually never thought of that. Thank you. Thank you so much. As you sit from your like mom's basement, right? Like unoriginal. So I don't really read the comments. So I would say the hardest part now, honestly, it's the travel. It's a lot of hustle and bustle here and there and everywhere. We live in Tennessee and Nashville, which is pretty central. So it's, it's not overly difficult. I would say to get to most places, especially to Washington, D.C., but it's just the being gone. I love being home. I'm very much a home body.

36:49Like I said, my whole family is within five minutes of me. I'm really, really close with my family. Actually, my brother came to D.C. with me today and my mom because my brother is working for Senator Hawley this summer, and so he wanted to come out and be able to explore and kind of get his bearings, and so we're all so close. And so being away from family and kind of getting out of that routine, my exercise routine, which I'm pretty regimented about, that's the hardest part, which in the grand scheme of things, how blessed am I for that to be the hardest part.

37:20Katie Miller:Outside of vaccines, what do you think is your biggest Maha take? Like what do you do that's the most Maha? My most Maha, I would say eating whole foods for sure. Like I really, really try not to eat processed things. I really try not to eat overly fried things, refrain from going to fast food restaurants and again that has changed even the past year um i think getting pregnant and going through that and realizing that your body is kind of just a vessel for your baby and for the nutrients that they receive it really forced me or kind of kick-started the want to really clean up my diet and now that she's here and again breastfeeding still delivering her those nutrients really trying to clean all that up excuse me all that up so whole milk i get all my butter sourced locally, all my meat sourced locally.

38:10So that's why I was so glad to be at the unveiling of the food pyramid and to witness all that they're doing there, especially in schools and public schools and kids' lunches, all really important stuff that I try my best to abide by. But again, it's hard when you're on the road traveling all the time. It's hard to make sure that you're prioritizing those things, but do what we can. What's your skincare routine? oh my skincare routine you know I am the worst ever and I sleep in my makeup no I know I know

38:41Katie Miller:I'm really you don't feel gross at night when you get into bed like sometimes like I'm gonna sleep my makeup and then I'm like laying down trying to sleep and I was like oh my skin feels disgusting yeah no I don't really feel that and I think a large part of it is which maybe this is like gonna get me canceled too but I don't love showering to be totally honest with you I really don't. I think it was spending so much time in the pool, like your whole life, like 18 years, it was practice before school, go to school, practice after school. I was basically, especially college, you're like basically a wet headed rat for four years because you like go to bed with wet hair, you wake up with wet hair, your hair's never not wet.

39:21It was constantly just like, I guess, consumed by water. And I reached the point upon graduating where I was like, I don't have to do that anymore. I don't have to submerge myself in water. I'm not going to. So I, of course I shower, but I don't, I don't love it. I don't love washing my face. I'm pretty horrible at things like that. But if I, if I do, I use products with tallow in it. Um, so again, I, I mentioned kind of this comprehensive health screening we did. I got back, like it went through toxins that's in your, your, that they detected from your urine and your blood and all sorts of heavy metals and things.

39:56And they even advised me like, these are some that are often found in skincare products. I don't think I realized that it can like transfer from your products that you're using or your makeup products, um, like that your body is really taking them in. So I try and use all clean products as well and go for tallow. What's a beauty product you can't live without a beauty product. I can't live with out. Um, I would say, give me a second. Oh, self tan.

40:25Katie Miller:really self-tan do they make a good version of that you know i close my eyes when i put myself tan on that's none of my business um i'm like like grossly pale my poor baby too um she is so pale my husband he's like i guess i got irish blood he's super pale so our poor baby that she's gonna be in like a bucket hat all summer long otherwise she'll be sobering so um yes i I self tan, but I got this one of those late night purchases. It was, uh, like a fold up pop up booth thing. I've seen those. Yes. And so my husband, he spray tans me just in our garage. And so he's learned and he's become a pro at, at spray tanning me.

41:05So this tan that I have now is sponsored by Louie. What's your workout routine? My workout routine. Okay. So I try and run three to four times a week. Typically Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Saturday tends to be a longer run. So 10 plus miles, I would say Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I know, right? It's funny because in swimming, I think this is pretty universal. Swimmers are typically go that route because they're not great at land sports generally, especially at that level. So I like did not like running at all, but then your sport ends and you're kind of desperate to, to keep competing.

41:45At least for me, that's how I was. Like I still wanted something where you're utilizing the same like body mechanisms and the endurance and the speed. I like that. And so I started running and I actually really enjoy it now, but did not for virtually my entire life prior to being done swimming. So I run four times a week, three or four times a week. I lift with my family, we do this every morning so it's me my mom my grandma my sister my younger sister older sister and my dad and so we work out together every morning and so that's yeah it's really fun um so i try and do that yeah just keep it moving i again that's outside of the eating whole foods when did you start working out again post baby um you know they advise six weeks but i actually have an issue with this.

42:37I feel like they've kind of made pregnancy and postpartum this one size fits all. It feels very archaic to me. And I feel as if not to sound super liberal, to be honest with you, but I feel as if, if it were men who went through the pregnancy delivery process, it would not be this, this outdated. Why is it that I have to wait six weeks as someone who is very self-aware? I have good body awareness, was a division one athlete. I take care of myself. why do I have to wait six weeks? But also this woman who's 300 pounds with chronic illness is advised to wait six weeks. It didn't really make sense to me.

43:13So I understand again, that you have internal wounds, if you will, and your uterus is trying to heal. So I get that, but I felt, I mean, good to go at like two weeks. And so lightly exercising. And I would say by six weeks, I felt good. And I think really at six months, that's when I finally felt like myself again. So I was moving and hustling and bustling, especially doing arm stuff, around two or three weeks. Yeah. But the whole process, it feels outdated. It feels archaic to me. Don't disagree.

43:47Katie Miller:Would you rather? We put this game in every episode. Okay. Would you rather swim a 400-meter wearing jeans and floaties or carry a screaming child through Disney in July? Oh, 400. 400 in jeans and floaties. It might take me a minute, but Disney is kind of like my worst nightmare. I don't love crowds. I don't love long lines. I went to Disney one time and I hated it. Disney adults also don't really understand them. I think Disney adults are kind of weird. So yeah, I'd rather swim a 400 in jeans and floaties. Would you rather accidentally post a spicy text for your husband to your ex account or pump breast milk while doing a live TV hit?

44:27oh you know nowadays they make the breast pumps so like inconspicuous you don't even really know you have them um so i could breast i honestly i've probably done that before i probably have you keep it on there and you just like make sure the microphone's here and not here and you don't

44:44Katie Miller:hear the so it haunts me that's how it's yes so pump well on a live hit would you rather sit through a 10-hour congressional hearing or a 10-hour toddler tantrum on an airplane Oh my gosh, they're kind of the same, to be honest with you, except one is in Congress and one's on an airplane. I've had the displeasure of testifying before Congress and the Senate many times now. And it does kind of leave you with the same rage feeling, right? Like, I think when you're on a plane with a toddler and they're crying, you feel like overstimulated and like you don't know what to do and there's nothing you really even can do.

45:20I felt that almost same kind of anger and rage testifying before Congress because you realize that if you got them off of the piece of paper that their staff are prepared for them, they don't even really know what they're talking about. So I don't know. That's a hard one. When it's my baby, is it my baby or is it someone else's baby? Your baby. Oh, my baby. That's like a different kind of stress. Someone else's baby almost feels sympathy, but when it's your baby, you feel anxious. I don't know. Maybe the congressional hearing. When it's your baby, you feel emotionally exhausted as soon as it's complete.

45:50You just feel bad for everyone else. Like, at least I do. Like, it's that stress and anxiety. Like, oh my gosh, everyone's going to want to throw me off the plane. Yeah.

45:58Katie Miller:So. Would you rather have a permanent spray tan from 2005 or only wear swimsuits from 2007? Ooh. Is the spray tan good? A permanent spray tan from 2005? Mm-hmm. They were really orange then. Like, splotchy and orange. Hmm. You know what? Probably the 2007 bathing suits. What were those like? I was wearing, like, tankinis at the time. I was seven years old. I think those are very like, that was when like swimsuits, uh, sports illustrated swimsuit edition was like really big. Okay. So I would go with 2007. Okay. 2007. Would you rather be forced to read every angry DM you've ever gotten or every parenting book ever written?

46:37Oh man. Well, I certainly wouldn't listen to either. I would say the, I would say the angry DMs because at least there can be some entertainment there. I find a lot of times with parenting books, there's a lot of self-righteousness. And even myself, I kind of thought I had it figured out when our baby was like four months, five months on the airplane. Like I'd mastered the technique to where I could get her to sleep. She'd sleep on the plane. We were flying from Tennessee to California. It didn't matter. She was a perfect little angel. And I like, you know, would attempt to give my friends advice.

47:10And then I realized, or really, she turned six months, seven months, and she wants to rip everyone's hair as they're passing by her, boarding the plane grab the person's seat eat the like little manual and the the seat back i realize i i absolutely don't have it figured out so i think in parenting books or self-help books in general there's a lot of almost self-righteousness at least in the way that i have read them so maybe the angry dms i read all my angry dms do you i love them do you they

47:40Katie Miller:give me energy respond no yeah no i just send them to the fbi how do that makes sense how do you feel about the block button like are you gonna block i don't block anybody on any platform they never get blocked i love the block button i don't use it me and the block button are like this especially on i don't block on x because i don't really know why actually and i don't block on tiktok it's mostly on instagram that's where i'll i'll find myself blocking maybe just because it's easier to do there i don't know but um i love the block button i will share that i think the worst of the moderation for hate speech violence is Instagram.

48:15Katie Miller:And I find that I report a lot on Instagram and nothing gets removed ever. Oh my gosh, ever. I, I absolutely agree with you there, but no, I read them all. I love them all. Like I can't get enough of them. It gives me such energy to keep going. It almost, it does. It has like an opposite effect to I think what they intend for it to have. But there is a level of, I think when you're a strong willed as probably you and I are, and as at least i'll speak for myself stubborn as i am it's like when someone tells you either not to do something or or has a problem with the way you're saying something the way you're acting the way you're interacting it almost makes you want to do that thing more 100 so yeah i get that every time yeah what's a conspiracy theory that you believe in okay i'm a pretty horrible conspiracy theorist to be honest with you i would say a conspiracy theory i believe in or what about the ones that i don't how about that like helen keller if i'm being honest with you did she really exist like did she really exist i can't wrap my mind around it like you're telling me there's a woman who can't see she can't hear but she wrote a book i don't know like i'm the worst conspiracy theorist ever like i'm like way too naive to believe that actually happened that's gonna be the part that's clipped by the way it's gonna be like riley is so stupid and doesn't actually think helen keller is real okay fine maybe but i don't know i think it doesn't sit right with me no i i don't disagree with you but i also think there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there and every single one's proven true so like you could sell me on anything these days yeah what's your most liberal take oh my most liberal take i'm pretty i will say like principled conservative through and through one of the things that i don't think is overly realistic that conservatives tend to harp on especially in trying to really reach young women is like the whole trad wife aesthetic i love it i think it sounds awesome i think in theory it's a fantastic thing but like can we be real for a second because where are you going to find a 20 acre lot of land that you can buy at 20 years old with your newly married husband while you're raising 10 kids like it just the reality of it i think is a lot more far-fetched than oftentimes conservatives make it out to be i would love it um i think it's but i don't know if anyone's actually pushing the trad wife thing i think that's like a legacy media it's like an internet pushed upon conservative women like i would say that even like nara i don't actually know if she's conservative that's that's fair and so like she was like the founder of this trad wife movement yet all the big quote trad wives on that I've ever like followed from the origin are not conservatives.

51:00Katie Miller:And so I think trad wife is like a hoax pushed upon conservative women by the legacy media, because you and I would both consider traditional wives, so to speak, that we honor our husbands, we love our families. I want to have children and follow that like traditionalism, so to speak, but also love working. And so I'm not trying to say to everyone, like, go do that. I'm just saying have babies. Agreed. I agree with that. And you're right. I do think a lot of the people, at least on the online spaces who speak to Trad Wife and what that really looks like, they don't live by that, you know? So it is a good point.

51:36So maybe it exists more online or kind of in these niche spaces, but I don't think it's accurate to sell that to young girls in the current state of of how things are I would love for it to be um and granted my husband and I we have a little farm and we've got cows and donkeys and alpacas and all the things but it's not the aesthetic that's would you consider yourself a child wife no because I'm I'm doing what what I do uh so not not necessarily no I do love that side of things though we actually are flower farmers so we have a flower farm which I never really disclose or talk about publicly just because it doesn't feel necessarily relevant but I would love doing that so I think there's value in it and I think there's especially raising Margo our little baby in that she goes out with me every morning to feed the cows and to do all the chores I think there's a level of you know being around that responsibility that you learn so I really appreciate it for that aspect but is it overly attainable i recognize the blessings and the the things that have been presented to me that have allowed this number one being many many generations back in tennessee the fantastic financial opportunities that both myself and my husband have had i recognize that's not as attainable for most people do you think the

53:01Katie Miller:legacy media has conflated this trad wife with the pro natalist movement yeah i think so for sure i I think they, well, you think of how it was framed, especially prior to the election in 2024 and the Project 25. Like they kind of tried to lump all of these things together. So absolutely, I think they are kind of one in the same in terms of how elected representation views these things and the talking points that they spew and certainly how legacy media does. Because I don't think you need to be a trad wife to be pronatalist, nor do I say that having, because I want to have unlimited amounts of children.

53:43Katie Miller:You want a cow? Like, I also want to go, like, be on a farm all day. You know, I believe that you can encourage women to have babies and talk about the beauty that is pregnancy, talk about the beauty that is raising babies, having babies, without saying that, like, yes, I'm a trad wife. Like I am not a trad wife. I'm not trying to be a trad wife. There was a time during like COVID, we all like we're trying to do sourdough, which I never successfully mastered. I never understood that. Like go buy a$4 loaf. Go buy a$4 loaf of sourdough. Like it's, yeah, I don't know. The whole starter thing, you have to like feed it, right?

54:21Katie Miller:Yeah, it's a lot of work. But I will say this is I love cooking. I love baking. That does not mean I am excellent at all of the home chores that there is. Like I'm very grateful for my little robot vacuum that like gets locked in the bathroom every night. shuts the door on himself it does no it's the only it's the matic it's the american-made robot vacuum and he locks himself in the bathroom every night that's so good but my point being is that the criticism that bothers me most from legacy media is that i'm pushing it that i'm trying to be a trad wife that i'm pushing trad wife on somebody else when i'm just telling everyone that they should have babies but again that's that's how legacy media operates it doesn't really matter what the issue is.

55:00They don't represent real life and real people, certainly left-leaning legacy media, whether it's the issue of men and women's sports. Again, they report on it as if it's this incredibly divisive thing. It's really not. It's not. It is among, again, the people who are voting on these policies, but in your real life, even go walk the streets of California, some of the most blue cities and states. And you'll find that I would imagine even in the bluest of blue cities and states, it would probably be more than 50-50.

55:32Katie Miller:What's your most boomer coded take? Ooh, my most boomer coded take. You know, I kind of like scrolling through Facebook. And I feel like Facebook is a place for boomers. Facebook is for boomers for sure. Like if you feel like you have to update your status, you're at least 65 years old. You're 65 or older. but I kind of like, excuse me, like scrolling through there and just looking at people's photos and people who feel the need to change their relationship status on Facebook. Like, please, that is so 2012. But I kind of, I'm kind of here for it. Which AI do you use? Grok. I do use Grok. I find, although I use Grok if I have a question to ask or some sort of information that I want to be found, but I have Grok blocked on X.

56:17i find it so annoying when people comment at grok is this real or at grok can you verify this i i blocked blocked you don't find that it like sometimes starts as a better version of a note i don't know i i what i have found is even on some of the information people are asking about me where obviously i know what is true and what is not true um grok will put out something that's that's not accurate. And it just is annoying. I'm like, you people are lazy. Go look it up yourself or spend time asking the chat bot on your phone. Like, what are you doing right now? So I have Grok blocked on X, but I do use Grok if I had a question just through the app.

57:00What's your biggest pet peeve? Let's see. I would say my biggest pet peeve from my husband is when he showers, takes his wet towel and leaves it on the bed. That's like, I feel like such a standard thing that you see people even married couples argue about in in movies or tv shows but like do you leave your clothes on the floor or does he he always says like riley i can see like the direct path you took to like get in the shower because your shoes are here your shorts are here your shirt is here he was like you need to he gets so mad i leave my shoes everywhere he's like i trip over these all the time put them up when you come inside put them in the closet it.

57:37So I'm not the best either, but it's the wet towel on the bed. I'm like, why are we, why are we putting a wet towel on the bed? Yeah. But I would say in general, I'm not someone who gets overly bothered. Um, I would say people who, who know me, uh, one thing that I do that drives people crazy is I'm the worst texter ever, ever.

57:59Katie Miller:Do you not respond? Yeah. You know, I read it. And in my mind, like I I've responded, like I'm on the same page. We've we're communicating telepathically, but texting just feels like a task to me. Like I want to respond, but I have to like really allot time to do it, which even if it could be as simple as responding like yes or no, it's a task. So I have to like set aside an hour or two to go through messages. And if I don't do that in the day, like you're probably not getting a response that day. So what was your last, I will never financially recover from this purchase. You know, I bought a cyber truck.

58:32You did. I bought the Cybertruck and I love it. I love it. Like I will never not have an electric vehicle now, or I should say a Tesla. I will never not have a Tesla. Although I will say the other day I had it self-driving.

58:46Katie Miller:I had it on Mad Max mode, which is like the super, I don't know people who don't drive in Mad Max. I right. Like, especially you're, you're hustling, bustling. You're going around town. I had it in Mad Max mode. And I was, of course I was paying attention to the road. You're not even you can't even be on your phone or it'll give you like a strike It'll like ground you from self-driving mode if you're on your phone So was not on my phone, but I guess I kind of had my brain turned off I guess So I'm driving it's going like nearly 90 miles an hour down the highway It pulls up behind a cop and it like goes right up the cops But goes around the slow lane to pass the cop goes flying by the cop cuts back over in front of the cop I didn't even know this was happening I'm just like in my own world singing or whatever I'm doing and so the cop I mean it's like, whoop, whoop, whoop.

59:30So I'm on the highway and I don't get pulled over. So I'm like, what do I do? Like, do I get off at the exit? Do I pull off in the median? Do I go to this side? I had my mom in the car with me. I'm like freaking out. So I pull over on the side of the highway and the officer, he comes right up to the side and he says, Ms. Gaines. I guess he knew who I was. He said, Ms. Gaines, um, you have this on self-drive, don't you? And I said, yes, officer. I tried to hand him my ID. He says, I don't want your ID. He said, I know you don't have warrants out for your rest you're good he said i just want you to know i had a canine in the back of my car and when you went flying by it rattled my window or the door and my dog started going crazy he was like you're good maybe turn it off mad max mode so elon if i would have gotten a ticket i would

1:00:16Katie Miller:have invoiced you for it because that was not my doing but i will say i love the cybertruck if you could host a dinner party with three people dead or alive who's sitting michael jackson that's one of them okay first of all did you see the michael jackson movie yes i am the biggest michael jackson fan which will also probably get me canceled but people have lots of things to say about him i've always just loved him so i would have him there oh is she it kind of makes sense i feel like we heard billy jean in the movie didn't we the melania movie okay makes sense um oh yeah she was like singing it in the car okay well maybe i'll have them both there i'll have melania and michael jackson that'll be super fun um one more person hmm we should make it interesting who would be like a good provocateur in this this dinner i'm thinking hold on i mean i could say jesus because i would love to eat with jesus but what are you guys eating oh i don't know we're gonna have um some steak cooked in tallow um which is funny we we do have like a big tub of tallow at my house now with the whole movement we have seen from this administration so we'll have some steak cooked in tallow uh i love broccoli my husband gets so mad because if i'm cooking like i will cook broccoli with whatever it is he's like riley stop this enough with the broccoli.

1:01:43So we'll have broccoli and steak. Sounds delicious. I do love like my weakness. My kryptonite is a chocolate chip cookie. So probably those two.

1:01:52Katie Miller:Before we close, I want to ask one last question. What do you think of the podcast influencer drama that is among the right right now? Oh gosh. It's hard saying this in closing because I could talk about it for hours. It's just really sad to see what I would call podcasts vultures. I mean, I think that's the best way to put it. I think especially in the past eight months or so, really capitalizing and monetizing and using horrible, tragic, horrific, unimaginable circumstances for their own benefit and solely for their own benefit. So I want to interrupt you to ask this. You're in the podcast space, so you know what monetization looks like.

1:02:38Katie Miller:And a lot of people who are commenting on this don't understand the monetization of podcasts and how people make money off them. Do you actually believe that they're making money off of this, or do you think that's just a common refrain people use to attack? I do think it's a common insult thrown out there. And it's something that bothers me, honestly. The word grifter, I hate that word. I get called a grifter all the time. I think oftentimes you hear that from people who just lack moral conviction and can't understand people who do things because they feel like it's the right thing to do. So certainly I do think it's an insult that's thrown out there.

1:03:18but the podcast sphere I think it's allowed for people to say the most outlandish crazy things oftentimes things that things they don't believe and I know this because there are conversations that I have had with people who have tried to to enlighten me into their method of making money and that's so not me I think a large part of it is because as we said at the very beginning of this kind of coming back full circle, this is just never really what I wanted to do. So I don't want to sound like overly, you know, nonchalant, but, but in saying like, if it works out cool, if it doesn't cool, you know, like I have so many other things that I care deeply about.

1:04:00And I love this because I care about the issues, but I'm not innately a podcaster.

1:04:06Katie Miller:So do you think it's ideological or do you think it's monetization? I'm sure there's a mix of both, but I do think there are people who utilize the space for monetization purposes or for attention. I think there's a lot of narcissists in the podcast sphere who maybe it's not even necessarily the money side of things, but they like the attention, the power grab that comes with being the top of the top. So I think the fracture that we've seen in the right, especially following Charlie Kirk's assassination, number one, it highlighted how he really was like glue. Like he was like kind of the connecting fibers of the conservative movement.

1:04:47And I think if you knew him, you've known that for years. Like he was a coalition builder. I remember at the RNC prior to the election in 2024, what, like in July or so, it was right after President Trump had the assassination attempt, one of many now, on his life in Butler, Pennsylvania. And watching Charlie behind the scenes, coordinate some of the speakers who were there. He was very involved in people like Amber Rose and some of the other unlikely figures who you just wouldn't expect at an RNC convention. A lot of that was Charlie. So I think in witnessing the fracture that we've seen following his assassination, it proved that he really was the glue.

1:05:25And also that without that sort of glue, the bad actors really come to light. And I think we've seen a lot of that. And it's horrible. the treatment that his bride his widow has received is detestable like I think it's a condemnation of humanity to see people who sit behind a screen and can so easily mock Erica who I believe displayed one of the most beautiful acts of God's love and forgiveness and forgiving her husband's assassin what like 10 11 days at that memorial service after he had been murdered like that is God's strength only through God can a grieving widow do that and so to see people who can't understand what that is like so easily mock her I just think it's a condemnation of humanity really and I don't I don't even say that as like a you know conservative or whatever it is just as a decent human being why are we doing that it's awful so the podcast sphere everyone has a podcast nowadays you know they do yeah everyone's got a podcast so but here we are you have another podcast i have one too but it is it's it's i don't know i don't know but i think the bad actors are easily identifiable i believe thank you for doing this thank you i'm super excited for you um we've got some work to do me my husband we're got to catch up to you guys everyone's got to have more babies

1:06:57Katie Miller:Yes. That's the life lesson is just keep having babies. Thank you so much for watching this episode of the Katie Miller Podcast. Don't forget to tune in every Tuesday night at 6 p.m. Eastern. See you next week.