In short
CNN’s pop-culture lead and tribute to Dolly Parton after her death at age 80, focusing on her music, business savvy, philanthropy, and cross-partisan appeal, plus recent health struggles and reactions from public figures.
Guest backgrounds
- Alison Moore: curator of the Dolly exhibit “Dolly Parton Journey of a Seeker” at the Country Music Hall of Fame.
- Elizabeth Wagmeister: CNN entertainment correspondent.
- Bells: singer/artist who co-wrote and recorded “Son of Jolene” with Parton.
- Rep. Diane Harshbarger: Tennessee Republican congresswoman (1st District; Dollywood/Pigeon Forge).
- Wendy Brokaw: former Dolly Parton personal assistant (production assistant on Straight Talk in Chicago).
Key claims
- Parton’s legacy combined songwriting, shrewd publishing decisions, and empathy-driven philanthropy (Imagination Library; COVID vaccine funding; disaster relief).
- She was “apolitical” and transcended politics/culture; many leaders lowered flags in her honor.
- She had health issues tied to neglect while caring for husband Carl Dean (dizziness/dehydration; canceled appearances).
Notable examples
- “Jolene,” “9 to 5,” and “I Will Always Love You” (Whitney Houston cover; Parton declined Elvis’s cover request).
- Imagination Library delivering millions of books; COVID/Moderna and Vanderbilt donations.
- “Son of Jolene” collaboration; Parton’s advice and kindness anecdotes from Moore and Brokaw.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLegacy of Dolly Parton
0:47 to 4:28
Discussing the life and legacy of Dolly Parton after her passing.
“Welcome to the lead on Phil Mattingly in for Jake Tapper.”
Reflections with Alison Moore
4:28 to 12:30
Interview with curator Alison Moore about Dolly Parton's impact.
“And I thought she was the prettiest thing I'd ever seen.”
Dolly Parton's Last Days and Legacy
14:23 to 16:42
Learn about Dolly Parton's final health struggles and her remarkable life.
“See, we did plan this, but we didn't know how it was going to sound.”
Dolly's Impact on Film and Literature
17:36 to 18:39
Explore Dolly Parton's contributions to film and her literary achievements.
“I just keep thinking about what an ale says.”
Insights from Dolly's Collaboration with James Patterson
18:39 to 20:00
Hear about Dolly's collaboration with James Patterson and her Nashville roots.
“Their book, Run, Rose, Run, depicts a young woman trying to make it in the country music business.”
Dolly's Musical Journey and Iconic Hits
20:00 to 22:36
Learn about Dolly's songwriting process and iconic songs like 'I Will Always Love You'.
“Now, a sit-down interview with those two entertainment icons was a big deal in and of itself.”
Personal Anecdotes and Tributes from Dolly
22:36 to 24:21
Dolly shares personal stories and reflections on her life and career.
“But when I was 75, I'm 75 now, and my husband turned 78.”
Reactions to Dolly's Passing
24:21 to 28:00
Hear heartfelt tributes from fellow artists and Dolly's lasting impact.
“Celebrities are flooding social media with their tributes to Dolly Parton, many with personal stories, personal moments with the superstar.”
Remembering Dolly Parton's Generosity
28:00 to 29:21
A discussion on Dolly Parton's impact on music and her generous spirit.
“that this would turn into something that you would actually, you know, be shooting a video or have her on the song with you.”
Reactions to Dolly Parton's Passing
29:21 to 34:20
Congresswoman Diane Harshbarger shares her emotional response to Dolly's death.
“I know this is a tough day for everybody.”
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Dolly Parton's Legacy and Impact
34:58 to 41:22
Panel discussion on Dolly Parton's contributions to country music and her legacy.
“For 23 years we've had this program going, but it's only been in the last several years as it's done so great.”
Dolly Parton's Legacy
42:08 to 43:39
Discussion on Dolly Parton's life, career, and impact on music and philanthropy.
“Her family says she passed away peacefully today at her home in Nashville after a career that spanned decades, philanthropy that touched millions, and a charisma that made her one of the most unifying and beloved stars.”
Highlights of Dolly's Career
43:39 to 45:56
An overview of Dolly's major achievements, songs, and career milestones.
“she finally deserves to be comfortable and have some rest.”
Personal Stories from Dolly's Assistant
45:56 to 48:22
Wendy Brokaw shares her personal experiences working with Dolly Parton.
“And I shot a whole clean through my purse.”
Deep Connections and Memories
48:22 to 53:59
Wendy reflects on her deep connection with Dolly and memorable moments.
“also told you during the break, you're now the coolest colleague I have without any question at all.”
Tributes and Impact
53:59 to 54:21
Discussion on Dolly's impact and the tributes pouring in after her passing.
“I can't express how grateful I am that you'd be able to share your memories.”
South Carolina Senate Runoff Insights
56:01 to 58:36
Get insights into the South Carolina Senate runoff and its implications.
“The press is starting to fill the room here at Darlene Graham's watch party in Columbia.”
Dr. Annie Andrews on Campaign Strategy
58:36 to 1:02:50
Dr. Annie Andrews discusses her campaign strategy and the upcoming election.
“Diane Gallagher, as always, my friend from South Carolina.”
Dolly Parton's Legacy and Philanthropy
1:02:50 to 1:09:00
Explore Dolly Parton's impact on her community and her philanthropic efforts.
“Well, Dolly Parton's contributions went far beyond the world of music.”
Reflecting on Dolly Parton's Influence
1:09:00 to 1:10:02
Discuss the widespread admiration for Dolly Parton and her life achievements.
“City manager, former mayor of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, David Ware, thank you so much for your time.”
Reflecting on Dolly Parton's Impact
1:10:02 to 1:14:45
Discover how Dolly Parton's ethos of kindness and respect shaped her legacy.
“And Shima, I guess one of the things I've been trying to grapple with all day is like, why, why, why?”
Community Mourning for Dolly
1:14:45 to 1:15:10
Learn about the community's reaction and mourning for Dolly Parton in her hometown.
“Well, tomorrow has been declared a day of mourning in Sevier County, Tennessee.”
Dante Stallworth on Football and Concussions
1:15:10 to 1:19:34
Former NFL player Dante Stallworth discusses the impact of CTE and football safety.
“In our health lead, a new study is putting football's brain injury crisis back into the spotlight.”
Dolly Parton: In Her Own Words
1:19:34 to 1:22:24
Hear Dolly Parton share her thoughts on her music, charity, and legacy.
“Dolly, in her own words, in that one-of-a-kind voice that we'll always remember.”
Transcript
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0:46This is CNN Breaking News. Welcome to the lead on Phil Mattingly in for Jake Tapper. We start with breaking news in our pop culture lead. Words that we, to be honest, dread to say. Legendary country music artist and philanthropist Alec Carton died today at the age of 80. We are seeing an outpour of condolences, heartache, gratitude from all corners of the music industry, all walks of life around the globe. None of this reaction, of course, should be a surprise, because Dolly Parton was one of the rare public figures who managed to transcend the steep divisions of politics and culture. President Trump announced he's ordered U.S.
1:25flags lowered to half-staff throughout the country beginning at 6 p.m. tonight for one week in honor of Dolly Parton. And this hour, we will focus on her legacy, one that is almost too big to comprehend because Dolly Parton was so many things. A songwriter, an artist, a philanthropist, a businesswoman, a family woman, an actress, and a charming, bubbly, quick-witted personality who captured millions of hearts. She was also smart as hell. And all of that legacy she built from nothing. Dolly Parton grew up in a self-described dirt-poor Tennessee mountain home, the fourth of 12 children, with a father who did not know how to read.
2:03But her home was filled with love. She wore that coat of many colors her mama made for her, and she learned to play the guitar her uncle gave her. From there, after high school, she moved to Nashville, met her husband Carl, and signed a record deal in 1965. She turned that coat from her mother into the basis of a hit song.
2:36And she was a songwriting factory, churning out a powerhouse lineup of songs over the course of her career, including 9 to 5 and Jolene. And of course, she also wrote I Will Always Love You, a stunningly beautiful and honest ballad. And I will always love you. She even turned down Elvis Presley's request to cover that song because his manager wanted a stake in her publishing rights. Smart as hell, as I was saying. That savvy business move paid off years later when the song became a mega hit thanks to a cover by Whitney Houston. Dolly Parton was one of the most successful crossover artists of all time.
3:2311 Grammys, induction into the country music and rock and roll hall of fame. And while she thought of herself as a songwriter first, the impact of her philanthropy will resonate for decades to come. She used her father's illiteracy as inspiration for forming her imagination library, which has grown into one of the premier early literacy efforts and book giving programs in the world. In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, she personally stepped in to help fund the development of the Moderna vaccine and donated$1 million to coronavirus research at Vanderbilt University. Now, all of that speaks volumes about who Dolly Parton was as a person.
4:00But even more importantly, she was kind. Those who knew her, worked with her, interviewed her, simply encountered her on a street. Everyone said she treated people with respect and made them feel special. Plus, there was no such thing as a boring conversation with Dolly Parton because it always included her signature Tennessee twang, laugh, and over-the-top look that she says was inspired by the town tramp when she was young. And I thought she was the prettiest thing I'd ever seen. And whoever I was with said, oh, she ain't nothing but trash. And I'd make the joke and I would say, well, that's what I'm going to be when I grow up.
4:38Meaning, that's how I want to look. In the video announcing Parton's death, her nephew, Brian Seaver, said Dolly told him she would like to be laid to rest on a bed of cotton, quote, because after a life of wearing heavy rhinestones, she finally deserves to be comfortable and have some rest. We agree. Rest easy, Dolly. Well, joining us now, Alison Moore, the curator of the Dolly exhibit on Right Now at the Country Music Hall of Fame. Allison, I really appreciate your time. I want to get to the unique perspective you can share here in a moment. But first, just your reaction to the news that I don't think anybody wanted to hear or really expected.
5:19My reaction, I was surprised. I knew that Dolly was not doing well. But I think I, like everyone else, never expected her to leave us. And now that she has, we're all incredibly sad. But I think we're all filled up with what she left, which was an enormous catalog of incredible songs and a legacy of philanthropy and love and hope and kindness that really affected the world. We're showing viewers a video of your exhibit. What story or artifacts surprised you as you were putting together this tribute to her life? oh gosh there's so many i um i got to hold the handwritten lyrics to jolene for instance which i'll never get over her kennedy center honor she's a member of both the country music and rock and roll halls of fame um her her costumes were just glorious and and getting to be up next to those costumes, you know, Dolly said herself, what makes her clothes special was that she wore them.
6:32Just everything about her was sparkly and shiny. But what is, what sticks with me is her enormous heart and her incredible ability to see people and make people still seeing her empathy outweighed all of the other gifts because the truth is as a songwriter empathy is the most important quality you can have. The exhibit is titled Dolly Parton Journey of a Seeker. Explain to our audience why is it named that?
7:09Dolly wrote a song called The Seeker and it really summed up her personality for me. And in her words, she said, when we talked to her about this exhibition, she said that she loved the title because she had always been a seeker in every way, in her spiritual life, in her professional life, in her personal life. In her words, she was always trying to find another mountain to climb. What were your conversations with her like? Like talking to people who know her, who worked with her, who have just had one conversation with her, there's always some extraordinary anecdote. And to your point, everybody seems to feel so personally connected just based on a conversation with her.
7:54What were yours like? Well, it was always funny. She was always going to come with a joke. I did a photo shoot with her once and I was wearing some clothes that the magazine had brought to the shoot and Dolly was commenting on them and she said, well, I always wear my own things because I'm shapes the odd. So it was always something funny with her. She had a tremendous wit, tremendous intelligence and kindness and joy and happiness. And she radiated all the beauty and and all the the wonderful feelings that you want to feel. She was very warm. them. Can you, her intellect, like I think sometimes, and I'm married to a Tennessean, so you can see it sometimes with Southerners where they put on a facade where they can kind of fool people into thinking like, oh, this is just, you know, somebody who doesn't really, just backwoods or country, doesn't understand.
8:53Like she was very clearly very smart and very savvy and probably as an underappreciated element of her extraordinary career. Did you see that? Absolutely. There's so many things about Dolly that she was in charge of that you would never dream. She was an incredible businesswoman. She had an incredible business mind. She was super sharp and super quick. You couldn't get by. As she said, you couldn't get one by her. And she would say things like, if I don't like it, if I don't like where you got it, I can tell you where to put it. But, you know, I think what will stand out with Dolly Parton is, again, her empathy, her kindness, her ability to see people, but also how she never forgot where she came from.
9:44And people say that, but she really didn't. She, you know, it all started at home for her. She started the Imaginary Library just in her home county of Sevier County. And today, the Imagination Library delivers two million books a month, and it's grown into a global program. She just would see something that needed to be done, and instead of waiting on someone else to do it, she did it. What's been so interesting in, you know, you go to East Tennessee, and like that's Dolly Parton, right? Not just because Dollywood is the largest employer in that region, but like everything. You go down to Tennessee, it feels like everything is touched by it.
10:24But it's also, I mean, there's millions of books going to kids, the vast majority of whom probably have no idea where it's coming from, which on some level felt like the point. like she didn't want to make a big show of what she was doing or the kind of structures that she put into place philanthropically that she would claim like didn't have a grand plan behind them and yet are still in place grew exponentially over years in touch such critical components all of which seemed to seed from how she grew up or maybe some of the inadequacies that she had as a child like how did like how did she explain did she talk about that with you i'm always interested in kind of how she was thinking through these things?
11:07She did not ever, she didn't talk about that with me, certainly. And from what I perceived, again, I saw that Dolly was someone who paid attention. Her home was where her heart was, for sure. Just the things that she did for her employees at Dollywood. She would pay for her college education. She paid for hospitals in her home community. She gave a million dollars toward the COVID-19 vaccine. She gave a million dollars to the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital because her niece got treatment there. She gave relief to East Tennessee families that were affected by the wildfires and then the floods. And she just did it without any fanfare at all.
11:59people would just get a thousand dollars a month in their bank account for six months to help recover from the wildfires. She just did it without considering the reasons why she couldn't. She was, you never want to meet your heroes or hear about your heroes because they're never as good as they seem to be publicly. And she's seen everyone you talked to, like she's, she was better. She was even better. Alison Moore, I'm so grateful for your time and for sharing your perspective. I know this is a difficult day for everyone, but it's so invaluable. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we have much more ahead on the death of Dolly Parton at the age of 80.
12:44What we know about her health struggles in recent months as she publicly put on a brave face.
12:53But the boss won't seem to let me. I swear sometimes that man is out to get me.
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14:23See, we did plan this, but we didn't know how it was going to sound. Well, we were planning to see if we could do something like, Mama's little children love short and then short and then Mama's little children love short and then bread. Mama's little children love short and then short and Mama's little children love short and then bread. Play it, Patty.
14:43The nail duet. An iconic scene there with Dolly Parton and Patti LaBelle, of course. This was on Dolly's 1987 variety show called Dolly. the superstars using their acrylic nails to accompany the old song, Shorten and Bread. Well, just four days ago, Dolly Parton opened up to People magazine about her ongoing health issues that stemmed from neglecting her own care while looking after her late husband, Carl Dean, who died last year. I want to bring in CNN entertainment correspondent, Elizabeth Wagmeister. Elizabeth, that was just days ago. What more do we know here? Look, Dolly has spoken to her fans in recent months about her health issues.
15:19We know that she had to cancel some of her performances and that she backed out of some recent appearances. But as you said, Phil, just four days ago, not even a week ago, she spoke to People Magazine and she acknowledged that she had neglected some of her own health issues. I want to read you exactly what she said so we could hear it in her words, because this is her last known interview before her death today. She said, quote, I am dealing with some health issues that I just didn't pay attention to when I was watching over Carl, Carl being Carl Dean, her husband who passed away last year. She goes on to say, you know, this isn't the first time I've had to manage something like this.
15:56Back in the early 80s, I was down for several months with female issues and I was struggling with my weight at the time too. So it's not like I haven't been through hard times with my health. I'm still working. You know me, as I've often said, I've dreamed myself into a corner and And I still have so many things I want to achieve. So I'm going to keep on working as long as I can to see everything come to life. You know, hearing those words from Dolly herself just four days ago, Phil, it's really heartbreaking when she said that she still had so much more that she wanted to do. And, of course, an incredible life, 80 years.
16:31But 80 years is 80 years too young for the loss of Dolly Parton, who will leave an indelible mark on this world. No question about that. Elizabeth Wagmeister, as always, my friend. Thank you very much. With Dolly Parton the fourth of 12 children, releasing 49 albums, winning 11 Grammys, becoming one of the most successful country crossover stars of all time. But she was so much more than a singer, much more of her incredible life and career. Next. From one letter to another, ah-ah. Can I say one by myself? Hey, Chicago. Class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear?
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17:35Everything like this just doesn't make any sense. No sense at all. I just keep thinking about what an ale says. The Lord works in mysterious ways. What the hell is this for? It makes you pretty.
18:05A classic scene there with Dolly Parton alongside Sam Shepard in the, of course, 1989 movie Steel Magnolia is one of the many films, classics Parton starred in over her legendary lifetime. Well, off screen, Dolly Parton was also a big name in the world of books. She made her mark, of course, with her nonprofit organization called Imagination Library. The group says it has sent more than 300 million books to children in rural and impoverished communities around the world. Parton also dabbled in fiction writing herself and had the chance to write with the thrill author James Patterson. Their book, Run, Rose, Run, depicts a young woman trying to make it in the country music business.
18:44CNN's Jake Tapper spoke with the two about the plot in 2022. How did the collaboration work? Because obviously there's a lot of expertise about coming up as a songwriter and performer and about Nashville that you had that he did not. Well, he's such a good storyteller. He created a whole lot of things that I really, truly related to because I relate to both the main female characters in the book. The early girl was me here in Nashville. Her backstory was a bit different, but trying to make it, kind of putting up with the snakes in the grass. And I knew exactly both of them. Dolly Parton also spoke with Jake about moving to Nashville and her early days in the city.
19:27An old trapped car. My bedroom was the back seat. My uncle's bedroom was the front seat. So we'd come back and forth. That's before I moved here. I started coming in and out of Nashville from the time I was 10 years old. What would you tell your younger self? Well, that's a tricky question. It was my dream to do it. But I would just probably, Looking back, I would just say, girl, you better buckle up because you're in for the ride of your life. You're going to have to take a lot of stuff. You're going to have to give a lot of stuff. And you're going to have to stand by your guns, believe in yourself, stay true to yourself.
20:00Now, a sit-down interview with those two entertainment icons was a big deal in and of itself. But Dolly Parton also gave Jake a tour of her Nashville-area music studio. Here's some of that unedited video. First, here on The Lead. well of course this was from my very first movie this is the platinum digital uh single sales here the nine to five so we got some of everything these are just this is not my museum but these are just pieces of things that we have in our office so we've got some of all the albums that we've done i saw that movie in the theater that's a great movie oh yeah i loved it jane fonda you Lily Tomlin, Dabney Coleman.
20:37Yeah, that was like 41, 42 years ago. It was a great movie. Yeah. But the song, and you just were inspired to write the song based on the screenplay? Yeah. Well, actually, when I made my deal, because I was country string writing, that was my first movie. Part of my deal was that I got to write the song. On the set, I worked doing, can you hear my nails? There's your mic right there. And I wrote, it sounded like a typewriter. That's good. And on the set, I would do working nine to five. What a way it makes me think. So every day I'd see something on the set. So I would do it. And years later, I met the wonderful Kenny Rogers.
21:15We had a lot of great duets together. You write in your autobiography about the chemistry and the love affair that you need to have with somebody, even if you're not physically manifesting. There needs to be something there. Oh, there has to be passion. And we had that. We never had a love affair, but it was close. Not really, because it was that great energy that we had, you know, that similar in our humor. It's darling when she's in the rap group. Oh, well, yeah. Danny's got pictures mixed in with all the things. My manager, Danny, knows that. I was working with so many people. But then here's when she, Whitney Houston did I Will Always Love You.
21:54That was a big hit with me, for sure. She did a great job of that from the bodyguard. Yeah. How did that happen? Because Kevin Costner was a fan. Well, they had really had another song that they had planned to use in that spot, and somebody else covered it. So they were all of a sudden needing the song immediately. And I guess Kevin and his secretary both loved that song, and he said, well, let's get I Will Always Love You, and the rest is history. It's great. Thank God for that one. I like your version better, though. Oh, well, I like her version better. Do you really? Yeah, she made more money for me than I did.
22:32Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I like that. Oh, goodness. No, see, I remember this cover because I remember Hugh Hefner offered you, at the time it seemed like an unbelievable amount of money, a million dollars to pose naked in Playboy, right? I wasn't about to pose naked. I did a good article. This was like risque for me. But when I was 75, I'm 75 now, and my husband turned 78. So I dressed up in my bunny suit and I recreated this. I saw it. You did an Instagram or something. But they don't have a Playboy cover anymore. The magazine's not out. But anyway, so yeah, that was a fun thing. It was a good article.
23:13Yeah, they got something. They didn't get the nude photo, but they got something. No, I wasn't going to go there. My daddy would roll over in my grave. Well, this is very cool. And what are these over here? Well, these are some of the outfits that I've worn on tour when I started working with Danny O 'Vell, who was my tour manager to start, and then he'd been my manager. But these are just some of the outfits that I've worn on stage things, on tours that I've been on with him. Somebody told me that you have never worn the same outfit twice. That's a lie. I'm too cheap for that. I even not only don't wear them over and over, or if they're long gowns, I'll shorten them and wear them on stage.
23:56Well, there's a lot of legends about you. Well, a lot of people have said that, and a lot of women don't wear the same outfit twice, but I'm thrifty. I'm like my baby, I'm too cheap for those shenanigans. That's great. You have beautiful teeth, by the way. Oh, you're very kind. Thank you so much. Well, that was wonderful. I really appreciate your generosity of time. Both of you, thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you. It was such an honor to meet you. Celebrities are flooding social media with their tributes to Dolly Parton, many with personal stories, personal moments with the superstar.
24:32Singer Casey Musgraves helped honor Dolly Parton with a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys in 2019. Today, Musgraves said, quote, the world feels a lot less sparkly all of the sudden and so glad she's with Carl Dean. Of course, Dolly's late husband. Singer and actress Reba McIntyre called Parton her, quote, buddy, writing, Dolly, thank you for all the wonderful things you did for us here on Earth. Her post went on to say,
25:11Deionne Warwick, a legendary singer herself, posting a photo of herself and Dolly on the set of their Peace Like a River music video with the caption, I will certainly miss her laughter, jokes, and her being. Rest well and in total peace, my friend. My heart is heavy. Parton's 9 to 5 co-star Lily Tomlin posted to X calling her friend and songwriter and the great harmonizer of humanity. Well, up next, I'll speak with one of the last artists to work with Dolly Parton before she passed away. We're back in a moment.
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26:51That was the artist Bells who told People Magazine her, quote, wildest dreams came true when Dali Parton teamed up with her on a song titled Son of Jolene, one of the last artists to work with Dali Parton. And Bells joins me now. I really appreciate your time. I guess just to start your reaction today we were talking during the break I was just watching the video you posted uh on your social media the two of you sitting there Dolly Parton giving you career advice which is just like remarkable but how what's your kind of how are you feeling today uh yeah I mean it's it's definitely you know heartbreaking devastating news Dolly has had more of an impact on my life than I can even express I you know I'm just kind of a girl from Nebraska.
27:36I grew up loving Dolly and never in a million years thought moving to Nashville that I would get to meet with her and work with her on a song. It's just been incredible. And today I was actually doing a radio interview talking about the song and talking about how much I loved Dolly when the news broke. So it was definitely surreal for sure. Can you recount like how this actually came to be? Because I don't think when you initially sat down to write it, you were thinking that this would turn into something that you would actually, you know, be shooting a video or have her on the song with you. How did it reach this point?
28:10Yeah, absolutely not. I wrote this song. I was on tour in my opening act. His mom's name was Jolene. So I got this idea to write this song about the son of Jolene. And I wrote this that next week with two of my best friends in Nashville. And it was actually my publisher who got the song to Dolly's longtime producer, Kent Wells. and Kent played the song for Dolly and it turns out that she loved the song so much that she wanted to sing on it and be a part of it with me which was totally crazy and changed my life in so many ways. What do you want people to remember about Dolly Parton's impact not just on you but on kind of country music writ large?
28:53You know I think what's really been hitting me today is just her generosity in so many ways. Even just sharing her voice and her talents with me, this girl she didn't even really know just because she loved the song. She liked the songwriting and so many of her foundations. And I just am the biggest Dolly fan. And I just think her generosity is just unlike anyone else in this world, truly. Buzz, I really appreciate your time. I know this is a tough day for everybody. I would highly recommend folks go watch this video of Dolly Parton giving music advice to younger artists. It's just, it's remarkable and says everything about her.
29:31Thank you so much for your time. Thank you for having me. I want to bring in now Tennessee Republican Congresswoman Diane Harshbarger, who represents the 1st District, home to Dollywood and to Pigeon Forge. Congresswoman, I really appreciate your time. Just your reaction today when you heard of Dolly Parton's passing. Well, we lost a superstar, but we lost one of our own. And when you say the iconic name Dolly, everybody in East Tennessee knows who you're speaking about. And it's a sad day because she she never forgot where she came from and she never forgot where her roots are. And that's right here in the first district of Tennessee in Sevier County.
30:14One of the things I was telling you during the break, my wife's from Tennessee. We've done the pilgrimage with our kids to Dollywood, which, by the way, is amazing. as a parent of four children I don't often say trips anywhere are amazing but then it's absolutely worth it a lot of people like to say that they don't forget where they're from or they care about where they're from you go to East Tennessee and like every she touched everything I explained to people like what that meant to the community oh well you know she took a little theme park and it was a silver dollar city as that's what I remember when I grew up and she turned that into a theme park where people from around the world would come and it opened it up to 23 ,000 jobs and 1.8 billion in economic impact in our community, in her hometown.
31:04It's just, she's helped in so many ways. If you remember the wildfires in Gatlinburg in 2016, she started a fund for those and gave people$1 ,000 a month for six months with no questions asked if you lost your home. And she helped with Hurricane Helene that devastated this district. And she showed up with a million dollar check. The woman just, she kept giving and she still has relatives that live there. And I was at the Moonshine Run a couple of weeks ago with Richard Petty and Dolly Parton's niece and the Moonshiners. And I'm like, you just, these people know who she is. They know what kind of person she is.
31:41She sounds like me. We're both from East Tennessee, for goodness sakes. And you can't change who we are. That's just what it is. It's Tennessee values. And if anything, she was so apolitical. She did not want to be on one side or the other. And that made people love her. And being genuine and authentic, people gravitated toward her and they loved her. And she was an icon then. She'll be an icon now. And I just hate that we've lost her. But you can't forget Dolly, no matter what. So she's in a much better place with her husband now. And she sang a lot of songs about her faith. And we'll just, we'll miss her.
32:24There's no question. But to your point, I always thought the most amazing thing about her, and there's like 700, a list of 700 things that would be on the list of amazing things about her, was her ability to transcend the kind of the moment culturally, the moment politically. Like even today in the world that you and I live in when you're down in Washington. I don't know that I remember a moment where everyone was on the same exact page, just wanting to remember an icon and sharing, regardless of where you're from or who you support or any of that type of stuff, like everyone loved Dolly. Why do you think that was?
32:59Well, because she remained true to who she was. She was genuine. She was a genuine person. She was authentic as all get out and nothing could sway her. She loved the people from her community, and she wanted to take care of everybody. And the stories, you know, I grew up watching her with Porter Wagner on the Grand Ole Opry and on the Porter Wagner show. And, you know, I knew her as Dolly with the short hair before all the wigs and things. And, you know, it's funny that she grew up so poor, and I can relate to that, you know, personally. And in the people in my district, there's so many good, salt-of-the-earth people here and she loved them and she'll always be remembered by these people no matter what.
33:41But if you're genuine and you're authentic, I'm telling you, people will gravitate towards you. And if you're honest and if you do help, you know, that's the way we should be in Congress, for heaven's sakes. Don't throw bombs. Don't call names. You got to work with people to for the common good. And that's what she did. She didn't ask you where you were from or what color you were or how much money you had, she helped you. And that's what we all ought to strive to do. Never forgot where she was from and very clearly never wanted to. Republican Congresswoman Diana Harshberger from Tennessee, thank you so much for sharing your memories.
34:16Yes, sir, my pleasure. We want to show you the scene outside Dolly Parton's home right now in Brentwood, Tennessee. Memorial to the Queen of Country Music is growing. We'll be back in a moment. Hey, Chicago, class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local croc store and step into your new look. Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. First day fits. Handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest croc store today. For 23 years we've had this program going, but it's only been in the last several years as it's done so great.
35:05But the fact that we have kids that are in college now, or kids that are married and have little kids of their own now, it's really amazing to get a letter from somebody like that. That was legendary. Philanthropist and musician just put legendary in front of like 15 different things. That's Dolly Parton talking about the legacy of her children's literacy program at the Library of Congress in 2018. The Imagination Library gifts free books to children around the world inspired by her father's inability to read. My panel joins me now. We were just talking. This wasn't necessarily what everybody planned to be talking about on a national news, cable news show.
35:43And yet what's so remarkable about her, Mike Dupke, is that the kind of unified response today. Yeah. Of transcending the usual politics and cultural BS and all type of stuff. Why? Left and right. Well, I so my wife, I told her I was going in and talking this as a boy from Buffalo. I was indoctrinated with steel magnolias because my wife's from Kentucky. So that's part of this. But she, you know, she had a line and I don't know if she stole this or where she got this from. But she said Dolly Parton built institutions. She didn't just lend her name to any charity. So the Imagination Library, my son who's down in Arkansas said, you got to talk about that, dad.
36:22I mean, she really crossed all the lines and it was nonpartisan. So the institution she built, she very much, I think, was conscious about keeping the politics out of it. And the poll numbers, again, I'm a politico, so I was looking this up. I mean, her fave, unfave, she was a plus 65. She was the only public persona in America to score over 50 percent. That's crazy. That's nuts. I mean, most of the politicians you interview would die for those numbers. So she is, she just really kind of crossed all the lines here. And everyone had a good feeling about her. As we were joking, there were 5 % that had unfavorable rating of her.
37:05And we are going to fine those people. We need to get rid of them. Whatever their issues are, they need to figure out a way to deal with them. Kurt, you've got the Daily Country Music tip shoot. Morning Hangover. Talk to people about Dolly Parton's legacy in country music. I feel like she infused everything at this point. Yeah, and again, it's so vast because you have the artistry of it, the longevity of her career, the relevancy that spanned four, five, six decades of Dolly Parton. The way that she's mentored the next generation of country music artists, especially female artists. She has invested in Lainey Wilson and the Ella Langley's and the Kelsey Ballerini's.
37:38Like all these new artists, one that you had on earlier, Bells, who just did a song, a sequel to Jolene, if you will. that level of input from someone who is so respected, who even established stars with Grammys on her shelves, gets starstruck when she walks in the door and she always went out of her way to try to pave the way for that next generation of artists. You don't see that oftentimes where the old veterans, if you will, really give a crap about the next guys coming up. They see them as competition. They try to hold them back. They want to take your spot. She never did that. She was the most approachable, inviting, kind.
38:10They always say never meet your heroes, but in country music with Dolly Parton, She's that exception because she is exactly how you would hope she would be in real life. It's not an act. It's not a gimmick. It's authentic. And that's why she's so wildly beloved for the sociopathic 5 % of people. Yeah, we have issues with them. We're going to figure that we're going to find those people. Scott, Dolly Parton won the Kennedy Center Award in 2006, one of the most prestigious lifetime achievement awards ever. The Kennedy Center dealing with some stuff right now, I think, to say the least. When I think about it, though, like, Dolly Parton, that award transcends whatever's happening right now.
38:45Is that fair? It was 20 years ago. It feels like a lifetime ago, though. Was it really 20 years ago? When you talk about the Kennedy Center, it feels like several lifetimes ago because it was a different moment where that was a distinctively unifying thing. She was side by side with Steven Spielberg. She was introduced by Reba McEntire and Reese Witherspoon, who at the time was on top of the world with Walk the Line, the movie. And it was a celebration of the person devoid of politics. It would be wonderful to get back to the Kennedy Center devoid of politics. Mike, you mentioned that she's unifying.
39:14I couldn't agree more. And it was exemplified today, Phil, when the Republican governor of Ohio and the Democratic governor of Kentucky both lowered their flags in honor of Dolly Parton. And here in Washington, we've all spent time on the Hill. She was invoked for so many legislative efforts, including music tourism to support that, to champion that, on secondary ticket sales to crack down on that. And even music licensing, they invoked her experience with I'll always love you as she made more money than Whitney Houston made covering it. Maybe they've got to readjust the economics of that. Both were deserving.
39:48She was invoked a lot, I think, because both parties thought she was a North Star. Kurt, you wrote an opinion piece back in 2017. I actually remember this, like your conversion to becoming like a late in life country music fan. I think that passed around a lot of text messages back in the day. You say the energy, kind of what country music brings to things. Her role in that, but also just like the genre itself. Explain your affinity for it. Yeah, there is a vibrancy, an authenticity, and a uniquely positive energy. I remember the first concert I ever went to in 2010. I walked in, had never been to a country music concert in my life, had not spent more than five seconds with country music at all, and I was blown away because you could have people from all demographics, ethics, religion, socioeconomic statuses, political beliefs, demographics, family lineage, coming together and singing a song in unison that somehow connects with them.
40:39And I think the things that Dolly wrote about, sang about, wrote songs for other people, it was the universal language because it was a storytelling device that is uniquely American. And that's why I think country music is so special in this country. It is a uniquely American genre. And Dolly was the best ambassador of that that we could ever hope for. Yeah. Hear, hear. A remarkably talented songwriter. Thank you all. I know this wasn't necessarily what we planned on talking about today, but this was talking about a person this great. It was absolutely worth it. Well, coming up, one of Deli Parton's former personal assistants will join us with her special memories.
41:12I'm taking with me Goodbye Please don't cry Cause we both know That I'm not Hey Chicago Class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look. Try it. Style it. Make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. First day fits handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Crocs store today. This is CNN Breaking News. Welcome to The Lead. I'm Phil Mattingly. In for Jake Tapper. We are following sad breaking news tonight. Legendary musician and philanthropist Dolly Parton has died at the age of 80.
42:11Her family says she passed away peacefully today at her home in Nashville after a career that spanned decades, philanthropy that touched millions, and a charisma that made her one of the most unifying and beloved stars. And I will always love you. Her family has not released a cause of death. However, Parton had recently said she was dealing with health issues she had neglected while caring for her late husband, Carl Dean, who died last year. Those issues included dizziness and dehydration, leading her doctor to tell her to stop traveling. Tonight, stars, fans around the world paying tribute. President Trump also paying tribute, ordering the flags lowered at the White House moments ago and calling Parton's death a, quote, true loss for millions.
43:00Now, Parton's legacy stretched far beyond country music. With 10 Grammy wins and a Lifetime Achievement Award Oscar and Tony nominations, an Emmy win, more than 100 million albums sold. And of course, inductions into both the country music and rock and roll halls of fame. The latter celebrated with this iconic collaboration. How you can easily take my man, but you don't know what he means to me, Jolie. A small private funeral ceremony will be held for her close family with her nephew adding this. Dolly called me and said she wants to rest in a beautiful bed of plush cotton because after a life wearing heavy rhinestones, she finally deserves to be comfortable and have some rest.
43:45Rest in peace, Aunt Dolly. CNN's Elizabeth Wagmeister takes a look back at Dolly Parton's long and decorated career and the passion projects she spearheaded outside of music. A beloved country queen known for her vulnerable and poetic lyrics, like in her classic hit Jolene. Jolene, Jolene. Dolly Parton's music was as popular as her bold style, composing and performing booming anthems like 9 to 5 that resonated with office workers everywhere. Pour myself a cup of ambition. She ranks among the most successful country recording artist of all time, with nearly 50 albums and more than 25 number one hits.
44:30A superstar who often sang about her humble small-town Tennessee roots. She made my coat of many colors. that I was so proud of. The fourth of 12 children, she started singing hymns in church. Dolly moved to Nashville after high school graduation, aiming for work as a songwriter. I was just trying to make a living, trying to find what I wanted to do to have my songs recorded. The petite singer modeled her signature style after a woman known for her promiscuity in her hometown. She was the prettiest thing I'd ever seen. I was very impressed by the big hair she had, the lipstick and the nails and the high heel shoe.
45:09Dolly got notice quickly, scoring a recording deal and a regular gig on the Porter Wagner show. You know that was my thing on the mind. Their collaboration lasted seven years. She wrote a song about parting ways with Wagner and it became a smash, first in 1974.
45:31And again, when Whitney Houston recorded it nearly two decades later. Her version of that was spectacular. I always think of it as being our song. Dolly said music made her a crossover success. It was a song that got me everywhere I've ever been. Working nine to five. She wrote the theme to Nine to Five and landed a lead role in the movie. And I shot a whole clean through my purse. Some of her other films include The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. There's nothing dirty going on. and Steel Magnolias. Young lady, you've just landed yourself a job. Her many job titles included author, theme park owner, and philanthropist, from setting up a literacy program for impoverished children to funding research for a COVID vaccine.
46:23Vaccine, vaccine, I'm begging of you, please don't hesitate. She stayed low-key about her charity work, insisting she saw herself as a musician first. My music is everything to me, and I just, that is what I grew from. Dolly said her career was shaped by her family, faith, and ambition. God first, me second, and I've been able to maneuver and live my life based on that and use my talent to the best of my ability. Indeed she did, writing an estimated 3 ,000 songs and earning countless awards and honors, including a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award and Enshrinement in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
47:03An event Dolly dominated, even out rocking the rock stars in 2022.
47:12She released her first rock album at the age of 77 and often collaborated with younger singers. It all helped make Dolly Parton one of America's most beloved artists, with fans and admirers that spanned generations.
47:36generations. Truly an incredible, just unbelievable life feel. And the celebrity tributes are pouring out with the news of Dolly's passing. Everyone from Paul McCartney to her 9 to 5 co-star Lily Tomlin and her Steel Magnolias co-star Sally Field and singers like like Reba McIntyre, Kelly Clarkson, and Casey Musgraves, who I think sums it up the best. She said, Phil, that the world feels a little less sparkly today. Elizabeth Wagmeister, thank you. I want to bring in Wendy Brokaw, who is not only one of the lead's amazing editorial producers, but I just learned an amazing fact a short while ago.
48:18Years before that, Wendy, you were Dolly Parton's personal assistant. I have a ton of questions. also told you during the break, you're now the coolest colleague I have without any question at all. Let's start with, how did you first come to work with Dolly Parton? Well, straight out of college, I wanted the experience of working on a movie set, and I was able to land a job working as a production assistant on a film called Straight Talk, which was filming in Chicago. I was an LA girl, so I got myself to Chicago, And first day on the set, they assigned me to be Dolly Parton's assistant. And the rest is history.
49:00It was an incredible experience. And I feel super blessed and lucky. Tell people just about dealing with her personally. You can read so much. Everybody has kind of a personal story that they have about Dolly Parton. But your personal stories are with Dolly Parton. What should people know? I mean honestly she had the biggest heart and really cared I mean in Hollywood people you know are impressed if you're you know a celebrity uh so you know on set like hanging out with the co-stars um the producers but she really cared about all the crew members and getting to know intimately every person that she spent time with knowing everyone's names their dogs' names, their kids' names, and just getting to know people.
49:47She had a big heart. She was also really wise. She could size you up pretty immediately and get right to the core of what you were thinking or feeling. And, I mean, she was really special, unique. When production on the movie wrapped, you shared with our colleagues that Dolly gave the crew gifts. Tell us about yours. Well, I'm going to tell you about mine, but I also want to mention one that stood out. She had me, I was in charge of getting all the colleagues that we worked with specialized gifts. And her stand-in, she gave her stand-in a pair of high heel shoes that were dollies and had me turn them into a trophy for her stand-in.
50:39And I thought that was really special. For me, she knew I was going to be flying back to LA when the shoot ended. And she flew me back with her first class. And so that was priceless. That was an amazing experience. What do you do on a flight from Chicago, I would guess, back to LA, sitting first class next to Dolly Parton? you get to really know someone intimately and have those long conversations that you might not have just you know even on the set I mean I had her undivided attention and um we did as I recall I think we had champagne um but I remember asking her um I just there's this one thing that stands out.
51:32I wanted to know how she stayed so skinny. And she shared with me that she would always get a plate of food and she would pile anything on it that she wanted, but then she would move some food off this way and some food off this way. And she would only eat what was there, but she always would save the stuff that she moved off to the side for the angels. So I thought that was really something that stood out that I remember about that plane flight. You've kind of alluded to this by the way you've described your experience, but you said everything people say about Dolly Parton is true. What do you mean?
52:13I mean that she's special. I think I sort of shared that she had the biggest heart and just genuinely cared about everybody that she met, like genuinely wanted to get to know people. Did you guys stay in touch over the years? We did because I ended up meeting the person who would become my husband on that film. So she came to our wedding. She's a huge part of our family lore, the story of our family. My kids know her as Aunt Dolly. We stayed in touch. I went to several concerts and we had some private time together after that as well. But I mean, I had her at my wedding. I mean, that was incredible.
52:59I can't imagine being a guest at a wedding that Dolly Parton just shows up as we're showing pictures right now of you and Dolly Parton, of your family of Dolly Parton. She's beloved. This is like the first day in Washington where I feel like everybody is in agreement on loving an individual before. How do you think she should best be remembered? well as the icon that she is um i would also say that she will be remembered as an incredible singer and songwriter um her lyrics were really personal to her um and And I would say that, you know, she wrote, I will always love you. And I feel like I will always love her.
53:54You know, she wrote that for everybody, but we all will all always love her. I can't express how grateful I am that you'd be able to share your memories. I know this is a tough day for everyone, but especially those like yourself who knew her so personally. Wendy, you're an amazing colleague, but this is another level of awesome. I really appreciate you sharing your memories of Dolly with us. Thanks so much. Thank you. So much more coverage of our breaking news tonight. The legendary Dolly Parton died today at the age of 80. In addition to her musical accomplishments, we're highlighting how she gave back to her home state of Tennessee and her dedication to making sure kids across the country learned how to read.
54:36Another major story tonight, it's the final minutes of voting in South Carolina, where a runoff election is testing the power of a Trump endorsement. We're live on the campaign trail in moments.
54:57In our politics lead, it's the night of runoffs and two key tests for the power of President Trump's endorsement within the Republican Party. In just one hour, polls will close in South Carolina and Georgia, followed by Oklahoma at 8 Eastern time. The highest profile race, of course, is in South Carolina, where Senator Darlene Graham is vying for a full term after being appointed to replace her late brother Lindsey Graham. Will her family name and Trump's backing be enough to defeat Congressman Ralph Norman? Trump urging voters at a Graham rally last week to vote as if he was on the ballot. They say that Trump does great when he's on the ballot, but when he's not on the ballot, his people don't come and they don't vote.
55:39So what I really want you to do is pretend, please, that I'm on the ballot. Just come and vote. Well, Trump's influence will also be tested in Oklahoma's Republican runoff for governor. Trump-backed former state Senator Mike Mazie faces off against Attorney General gender drummond meanwhile in georgia democrats will decide who will finish out the term of the late congressman david scott his daughter marcy or former guinette county school board chair everton blair this race narrowing republicans already thin majority in the house but we of course want to take you to south carolina where cnn's diane gallagher has more on tonight's republican senate runoff diane what are you hearing you know phil the polls close in less in an hour here in South Carolina.
56:24The press is starting to fill the room here at Darlene Graham's watch party in Columbia. And the big question that everybody has about this battle between Darlene Graham and Ralph Norman is will Trump's endorsement and really engaged support for her during this runoff be enough to push Graham over the finish line, despite concerns that many Republicans have about, look, a lack of detail in her platform, that shaky debate that she had a week ago today. And also what one strategist described to me is the fact that they just simply don't know that much about her. Now, of course, Graham's success or failure tonight is going to be viewed as a reflection on President Trump and potentially his continued influence on Republicans in the South.
57:13He's not had the best luck here in South Carolina with these endorsements, and he has gone all in on Darlene Graham. He had an in-person rally that you just played that sound from on Friday. He, of course, had two tele-rallies. And his super PAC, MAGA Inc., has dropped in a rare form so far this cycle, more than$820 ,000 in get-out-the-vote efforts for Graham in this runoff. We talked to voters, though, and what kept coming up to us was experience more than endorsement. I did my research. Ralph Norman is a, you know, he's a fiscal conservative. He's done a lot for South Carolina. Darlene Graham probably doesn't know anything about international affairs.
57:59And she said she'd be a rubber stamp for Trump. And I'm not in for that. Why'd you vote for Darlene? I loved her brother and I love what he stood for. And she's going to be great. Did President Trump's endorsement play any role in your vote? It did. Well, we like what Lindsey Graham represented, and we feel like she's going to do the same thing. We feel like she's going to fit right into his slot.
58:25Now, Phil, South Carolina does have a recount rule if they're within that 1 % that they can request that. We will see how close the final results are tonight once polls close in just a little more than 40 minutes. Busy night ahead. Diane Gallagher, as always, my friend from South Carolina. Thank you very much. So whichever Republican wins will face the Democratic Senate nominee, Dr. Annie Andrews. And Dr. Andrews joins us now. Doctor, really appreciate your time. As you look towards tonight, is there one candidate or the other you would rather face in the general election? No, and thank you so much for having me this evening.
58:59It really does not matter to me which Republican emerges from this runoff. These two Republicans have been spending the past two weeks nationalizing this race around Donald Trump while I've been trying to bring it home, talking to South Carolinians about grocery prices, gas prices, and our broken health care system. People here in South Carolina don't want to be told who to vote for. They want real options on the ballot in November. So while there's so much talk about tonight's election, the real choice for South Carolinians will happen on November 3rd, where they can choose to vote for a pediatrician instead of yet another career politician who really represents everything that's broken in Washington, D.C.
59:37Walk me through your coalition. Like, how do you see the math that gets you to 50 plus one in November? And I ask that based, not dismissively at all, but just based on statewide elections over the course of the last couple of decades, Trump's own electoral victories in the state in the last three presidentials. What is your coalition? Yeah, so we need to turn out Democrats. We need to win over independents. And we need to give permission to moderate Republicans to choose something different, to choose a pediatrician, a doctor over another career politician. And yes, South Carolina is a state that voted for Trump by double digits, but our data continues to suggest that this race is tied regardless of which Republican emerges from this election tonight.
1:00:20This race is tied. We're building a real people-powered movement here. I've been campaigning for over a year in every corner of the state of South Carolina, talking to voters about the problems they're facing, about their grocery prices, about their disdain for this war with Iran and how it relates to high gas prices, about the impending Medicaid budget cuts and what that will do to further devastate access to health care in rural parts of the state. So people are ready for something different. That's what I'm offering. And if people want to learn more about what it could be like to have the first pediatrician in the U.S.
1:00:49Senate, they can go to DrAnnieAndrews.com. What do you say to National Democrats who are skeptical, both on the financial side, but also just in the paying significant attention side to the campaign you're putting together, the race you're going to run in the general. So I'm far more concerned about what the voters are telling me just this past weekend. I was in Myrtle Beach and Conway and Florence and Greenville and Spartanburg walking into rooms full of people, not just Democrats, a lot of Republicans who feel left behind by the current version of the Republican Party and a lot of independents.
1:01:21So what I'm hearing from voters is they're excited to have an option on the ballot in November. They're ready for something different. This is the change election cycle. Darlene Graham has no political experience and she lacks the preparedness to do the job. And on the other hand, Ralph Norman, it would be near 80 years old at the end of this freshman term. He is a Freedom Caucus leader. He is a career politician who is asking for a promotion for a job he's objectively failing at right now. You mentioned change election. We hear that a lot. I've heard it a lot when I've been out in the country covering various races.
1:01:52How much of what you're hearing is distaste with the current administration, with the current president versus they just don't like anyone? I mean, everybody's pretty turned off by what's happening in Washington, D.C., and I'll be the first to admit that Washington, D.C. is broken, and that is not just one political party's fault, which is why we need to elect people who come from different professional backgrounds who aren't seeking to be career politicians, which I am not. I will not be a rubber stamp for any president or any political party. All we've seen and heard from Darlene Graham is that she will be a rubber stamp for the Trump agenda.
1:02:27And we've seen the same from Ralph Norman. I hear people talking about him being a fiscal conservative. He voted for Trump's budget bill that added$4 trillion to the debt. So he is not fiscally conservative. People want the truth from their elected officials. They want honesty. They want a fighter. And that's what I'm offering. Democratic nominee for South Carolina Senate, Dr. Annie Andrews, thanks so much for your time. Thank you. Well, Dolly Parton's contributions went far beyond the world of music. Up next, we're exploring how she gave back to Tennessee after rising from humble beginnings and inspired all of us, including in this Netflix interview.
1:03:03You are enough, and anyone who tells you otherwise isn't worth your time. You got this. Yes, I'm talking to you. Other people didn't always believe in me, and in those times, I had to believe in myself. Plus, nothing's better than proving people wrong.
1:03:30We're back with our pop culture lead and our breaking news coverage of the passing of country music icon Dolly Parton. Tributes pouring in for the legendary musician and philanthropist who died today in her home in Nashville. She was 80 years old. For decades, she captivated people's attention and, of course, their hearts with her southern twang, witty charm, hit songs, and more than anything else, her generosity. Parton rose from humble beginnings, becoming one of the biggest stars, but never forgetting where she came from, Sevier County, Tennessee. In 1986, she bought a theme park in Pigeon Forge, renaming it Dollywood, turning it into Sevier County's largest employer, providing more than 20 ,000 jobs and generating around$1.8 billion annually.
1:04:13In 1988, she created the Dallywood Foundation, aimed at curbing high school dropout rates in her home county. Parton personally pledged to give$500 to every 7th and 8th grade student if they graduated from high school. She formed the Imagination Library, which has grown into one of the premier early literacy efforts and book gifting programs in the world. And aside from multiple scholarship donations and programs, Parton also mobilized over the years after natural disasters affected both her home state and surrounding areas. Joining us now to discuss Parton's impact in our home county is city manager and former mayor of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, David Ware.
1:04:51David, I'm so grateful for your time. I can't imagine what you, what the community are kind of going through right now with Dolly Parton's passing. How are you guys? We're doing okay. We're just like she was, Super County tough. We're a tough group of people, but resilient, just as she was. First of all, let me just say real quick, our love and prayers go out to the Parton and Owen family. Their loss today is huge, and I can't imagine what they're feeling. So our love and prayers go out to them and to the folks at Dollywood, her theme park, and the folks that she has interacted with, her fans all over the world.
1:05:27She was worldwide, and we couldn't be more proud to have an ambassador like Dolly. I was trying to explain to somebody earlier today, you go to East Tennessee, you go into Sevier County. like everything is Dolly Parton. She touched everything and not in like an overt in your face like I want all the recognition. It was just she was everywhere and everything. Am I characterizing that correctly? You are. So she was like I said larger than life and here in Sevier County when she opened went from Silver Dollar City to Dollywood and put her name on that theme park. That was her goal is to employ her people.
1:06:04She always referred to us mountain folks here in Sevier County as my people. And she lived it, not just with her investment there in Dollywood, but also, as you mentioned in your intro, all the philanthropic things that she had her hands in. Every time there was something that we needed help with as a community, she was always there, especially the wildfires in 2016. She came in huge, changed the trajectory of our recovery, not just emotionally and our well-being, but also our economy. She has made an impact on this world, but none as much as here in Spirk County. Do you have a favorite personal story or anecdote?
1:06:42I feel like everybody in the community met her, talked with her, ran into her, had some type of interaction with some element of her generosity. What do you think about? I think a thousand stories that I probably shouldn't tell because she wouldn't want me to, but she would probably get a kick out of it. Like I said, just hearing her interviews with so many people throughout the years, you know her wit. And you know her sense of humor. But, you know, a couple of things that stick out in your intro. You mentioned the the buddy program. And I was one of those recipients back in back in the day that got money for graduating high school, me and my buddy.
1:07:17So it was pretty amazing that I got to see that early on. And then also when I got involved in city government and got to work with her on a personal level, it just made it even more special. But one story that really sticks out to me, and I don't know if I'm going to tell it very well, but my daughter, she was very young. and we used to have a homecoming parade in Pigeon Forge, and Dolly was the Grand Marshal every year. And we get some time to meet and talk with Dolly. And again, my daughter being young, just thought of her as a special friend. Years later, my daughter grew up a little bit. Dolly did a concert here at our local LeConte Event Center, and she turned to my wife and said, are all these people here to see Dolly?
1:07:55She had no idea that Dolly was as famous as she was because that's not how she knew her. She knew Dolly as her special friend. which is the kind of person she was. She was larger than life on stage and as a performer. But if you got a chance to talk to her face to face, one on one, she was as real as they got. That's such a that's such a great story and such a great window into the woman, not just kind of the famous, terrific and absolutely everything she did person that we all seem to know publicly. Last thing before I let you go, for people who don't know much about your community, don't know much about Sevier County.
1:08:30We've all tried to explain Dolly Parton's impact on the area, on the community. What would you want people to know about it? About this area? Well, we're here just like Dolly. We're welcoming and loving to all. We want people to come and enjoy our mountain home. We are heavy in hospitality, and that's what we're good at, just as she was good at it. And we give to our neighbor, and we love each other, and we're very faithful people. And I think that those things ring true to her as well. I've said it a couple times, traveling with four young kids, not ideal, but our trip to Dollywood and to your neck of the woods was absolutely outstanding.
1:09:09I can't recommend it more highly. City manager, former mayor of Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, David Ware, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. Thanks for the opportunity. Well, a growing list of tributes tonight after Dolly Parton died at the age of 80. From one icon to another, Elton John writing, shocked and devastated to hear of Dolly's passing, a giant of an artist, unique and irreplaceable with the kindest heart. Much more on the tributes next.
1:09:41We're back with our pop lead and we're looking at the life and legacy of music icon Dolly Parton. Parton wasn't just a country music legend. She was a philanthropist, actress, businesswoman, familywoman, just an absolute legend of just about everything. My next guest spent years researching Parton's life and career to create the award-winning podcast Dolly Parton's America. Shima Olialli joins me now. And Shima, I guess one of the things I've been trying to grapple with all day is like, why, why, why? Why was she just so, like, everyone loved her, and across everything she worked on, there was like a unifying view that she was just great.
1:10:20Am I simplifying this too much? No. Actually, that is kind of one of the impossible feats of her life. While gaining so much stature and so much success, it seems that, you know, she very much kept at the center of her ethos that she would do right by people, no matter what was going on, no matter how big, like how big an event was or a concert performance. She was very in tune with the everyday moment to moment interactions with the people around her. So she was quick, you know, quick-witted too. If, you know, someone were to like make a crack, crack a joke at her or at her expense and she was fast to fire back, but she was very aware of each moment of the person in front of her.
1:11:11I feel like she saw people as if they were an entire universe to themselves. And she treated people with that kind of respect, even when they didn't disagree. I think she, she would pray as she said that she would pray. And I think that kind of spiritual stance is what defined her music, it defined her philanthropy, it defined Dollywood, it defined all of the books that she wrote and including the 300 million books that she gave to children around the world. What most surprised me about her besides the fact that she would work around the clock is that she would wake up each morning and pray and then that is what led her to songwrite.
1:11:57That's what led her to think about what she could do for others while she was alive. And even when she considered this moment that we knew would one day come, what she would leave behind when she was no longer here. I think she was very attuned to her mission and her mission was very much almost like a godmother of the people. And that's not easy to live every day. It's easy to say in words, much harder to like walk the walk and even in the tiniest things like sending faxes to people thanking them um she she changed so many lives she changed my life it's because she called she called uh my boss and said I like that Sheena girl and I was I was on to like produce the rest of the interviews that um I did I completed with her for the next two years to complete the podcast series I made.
1:12:50Elaborate on that, like her role in your life, your personal interactions with her, like what, explain to people what that meant, what always stood out to you. So even when there was like a dinner party and, you know, the awkward interactions of people, you know, she would host these gatherings at premieres or other events where people just, you know, broke bread together. And it was a lot of different people were coming in contact with her life and orbiting around her. And so a lot of us were, you know, the odd ones at the table. She was very aware of every single person in the room. And she was very aware of what people needed.
1:13:33She, you know, even though she is working around the clock and, you know, there are so many people that work for her, she would make sure that you ate, that you were sleeping. How are you doing? How is your family? And she meant it when she asked you. And I think that that was like tiny moments of really making sure she's doing right by everyone and really seeing people. it helped her write the profound music that she wrote, especially music from the working class perspective, regular people, the poor, from women before they had the same legal rights that they came to have and then lost again.
1:14:14She would always think about who is suffering and how can I help transmit their voice to the world so people can understand them better. But she also did that in everyday interactions. Remarkable. I like the godmother reference. I think that's great. And if that's the mission, that's a heavy weight to carry. Mission accomplished without any question. Shima, I'm really grateful for your time. I know this is a very heavy day for you and everyone. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Well, tomorrow has been declared a day of mourning in Sevier County, Tennessee. Dolly Parton's home county officials there saying, quote, Sevier County has lost a beloved friend, an extraordinary neighbor, and an icon whose legacy will forever be part of the story of our community.
1:14:59Much more on Dally Parton Ahead.
1:15:10In our health lead, a new study is putting football's brain injury crisis back into the spotlight. Researchers found at least one in four former NFL players who died between 2016 and 2021 had CTE. The disease, of course, is linked to repeated hits to the head and can only be confirmed after death. Symptoms can include memory loss, mood changes, impulse control, problems, anxiety, and depression. Joining me now is Dante Stallworth, former NFL wide receiver who played 10 seasons in the league. And Dante, I have to start. You're a UT guy, we can tell by the tie. Dolly Parton, we're all thinking about it today.
1:15:44You met her. Yeah, I was able to meet her when I was in Knoxville. It was during the summer, about 12, 13 years ago. She was having a concert there, and, you know, Dolly was just the light of the universe. She treated everyone with dignity and respect, and, you know, one of the things that I appreciated most about her was that she spoke openly about inclusivity, but she also led with love and humility. And that's, you know, she was a big—she grew up right down the street from Knoxville, so she's a big Vols fan, and the Vols nation is hurting tonight along with everyone else. Yeah. We can talk about this a lot.
1:16:19I do want to switch topics there because this new study today, we've seen numbers come out on this issue repeatedly over the years. What do you think when you see these numbers? It's disturbing. It's a little scary because I played in the era where there was no talk of concussions. The nomenclature around concussions was taken very lightly back then. But now I think a lot of things have changed in the last 10, 15 years. and the NFL has really made some strides, but also, you know, with concussion protocols and the guardian caps, being able to wear those at practice and even in the games, those things would have never happened 15, 20 years ago.
1:16:58But it's a sobering reminder, I think, too, that this game that we love and that we all know, there are physical consequences that come with playing this game. But I think now that we're moving forward in time, I think that the NFL has really done a lot but there's always more that can be done, and we're going to keep pressing them as former players to do more. Your generation, we're the same generation, generation of players looking back, most of whom have retired, do you think about specific hits or specific moments and think like, oh, when you see these numbers, this isn't great? Yeah, I think a lot of players do, and I think one of the things too is that a lot of the players don't really want to talk about it.
1:17:42And, you know, I think that's attributed to our mentality when we were playing. We were taught, we were trained to never show any physical or mental weakness because you don't want your opponent to see any weakness. And I think that a lot of the times that gets carried off of the field, too, and not just off of the field, but with us throughout our lives. And so the good thing, though, is that, you know, like I said, the nomenclature has changed about concussions and everything that we talk about, the way we talk about concussions and the way we talk about brain health in general, I think has changed.
1:18:12And so that hopefully will enable more players to be able to speak freely and speak openly about the concussions and any issues that they're having. I'm a dad. I've got two sons. Grew up playing football. Very formative experience, not nearly as high a level as you did. It's a battle with my wife. Are the boys playing tackle football? What do you think? You know, that's tricky. I think a lot of former players, like I say, I don't have any kids, but a lot of former players are really not allowing their younger kids to play tackle football anymore. or they're playing flag football and getting them in that team mentality where they can kind of work within football but not necessarily tackle until they get to high school.
1:18:48So I think that the research behind that is there for you to see it for yourself. And if I had kids, I wouldn't let my young kids play tackle football, but I think the older they get, high school, obviously college, I think it's okay. If you're willing to understand the risks and the consequences that come with that. When do you think they should start playing? That's a good question. Honestly, I would say a lot of former players that I played with, guys that have kids, they didn't let their kids start playing tackle football until high school. I would say probably high school. Learn the basics first.
1:19:26Exactly. Really appreciate you. Big fan. Thanks so much for coming in. Dante Stallworth. We could talk about Dolly Parton all day. We have for much of the day. But perhaps one of the best ways to honor her is to let you hear from Dolly herself. Dolly, in her own words, in that one-of-a-kind voice that we'll always remember. That's next.
1:19:48Welcome back. We want to let you hear Dolly Parton's words about her music, charity, and legacy before we say goodbye tonight. But I think people early on saw that I was serious about my work and that I was serious about what I thought I could do. Dolly Parton shared time and again throughout the years about why she thought her career took off, overcoming the obstacles of her eastern Tennessee upbringing and being a woman in country music from her earliest performance on The Porter Wagner Show. Just because I'm blonde, don't think I'm dumb, because this dumb blonde ain't nobody's fool. To a now famous interview on 60 Minutes.
1:20:30Well, I certainly got hit on a lot, and a lot of men thought I was as silly as I looked, I guess. You know, I look like a woman, but I think like a man. And in this world of business, that has helped me a lot, because by the time they think that I don't know what's going on, I done got the money and gone. Her star shone bright throughout Nashville and beyond. To Hollywood, here she is telling Howard Stern the innovative way she wrote the now-famous title track for the movie 9 to 5. I would watch whatever was going on, and I would just be like, you know, because I couldn't get a guitar out on the set.
1:21:04So I would just kind of, you've got to have acrylic nails to make that real percussive sound. But I would just, I thought it sounded like a typewriter. Can you hear that? Yeah. Working 9 to 5, what a way to make a living. A familiar technique for the glamorous dolly. Oh, books, books. I love books. the way they feel and smell and look. From my first look, I was hooked on books, books, books. After the creation of her imagination library in 1995, she told NBC that country music queen was no longer her favorite moniker. It was the book lady for a reason that hit close to home. My dad was the smartest person I ever knew, but he couldn't read and write, and that always bothered me and troubled me.
1:21:51So I wanted to do something so my dad could be proud to help me with it and daddy got to live long enough for to hear the kids call me the book lady and he was as proud of that as me being a star home stayed at the root of her charity work and her lasting legacy in tennessee dollywood i'm very involved in everything that goes on to dollywood i've always loved being part of that and they always make me feel real welcome and that is necessary for me to be involved. I don't want to just put my name on something and not be involved. Now, Dolly told our Jake Tapper in 2022 what she would tell her younger self about her career, if she could do it all again.
1:22:32Looking back, I would just say, girl, you better buckle up because this is you're in for the ride of your life. One heck of a life indeed. May Dolly's memory be a blessing. You can follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead CNN. If you ever Watch the show on the CNN app. Aaron Burnett out front starts now.
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