In short
The episode centers on multiple current-news stories, led by controversy over a deadly ICE shooting in Houston, plus questions about Iran, U.S. election security, and political/media feuds.
Guests and backgrounds
Rosie O’Donnell, Emmy-winning comedian/actress and former talk-show host; Jordan Wood, former chief of staff to Rep. Katie Porter and a declared Democratic candidate for Maine’s Senate seat; John Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the UN and former national security advisor; Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo (executive for Harris County); plus CNN reporters Priscilla Alvarez, Carolina Peguero, and investigative reporter Katie Poglase, and correspondent Pamela Brown.
Key claims and notable examples
- ICE shooting: Lorenzo Salgado Arrujo was killed by ICE in Texas; sources say he wasn’t the target. ICE alleges he tried to ram/run over an officer; attorney Hugo Balderes Ibarra and witnesses dispute this, saying the van slowed and an agent shot almost immediately. No body-cam/dash-cam video of the shooting; only surveillance/aftermath. Investigations include FBI, DHS Inspector General, and Harris DA.
- Iran: CNN satellite images (analyzed with ISI) suggest repairs/reconstruction at nuclear/missile sites (e.g., Parchin, “Pickaxe Mountain,” Tabriz, Kermanshah), implying possible violation of the late-June U.S.-Iran nuclear memorandum.
- Elections: Trump fired leadership of the Election Assistance Commission, raising concerns about interference ahead of midterms.
- Trump vs Rosie: O’Donnell discusses Trump’s AI video attacks and her move to Ireland for mental health reasons.
- Maine Senate: Jordan Wood discusses why she challenged/left the race after Graham Plattner’s Nazi-symbol allegations and rape allegation; Plattner denies.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOverview of the ICE Shooting Incident
0:12 to 1:19
An overview of the circumstances surrounding the shooting of Lorenzo Salgado Arrujo by ICE agents.
“And now local officials are calling for a formal investigation into the death of Lorenzo Salagudo Arrujo.”
Witness Accounts and Controversy
1:19 to 2:58
Discussion of conflicting witness accounts about the shooting and the victims.
“The 52-year-old was just on his way to work and apparently in the wrong place at the wrong time.”
Details of the Investigation
2:58 to 4:52
Insight into the ongoing investigation and the actions of ICE agents involved.
“Now, Salgado Araujo's death is the first deadly shooting involving federal immigration agents and agents since U.S.”
Political Reactions and Community Impact
4:52 to 8:23
Political discussions and community responses to the shooting and its implications.
“In Salgado, Arujo's last words was, they are trying to kill me.”
Calls for Change and Accountability
8:23 to 13:43
Calls for accountability and discussions on law enforcement practices concerning unmarked vehicles.
“And the three passengers who are in ICE custody have been sharing some of what they experienced with their attorney.”
Discussing Serena Williams' Return
14:13 to 14:48
The hosts discuss Serena Williams returning to Wimbledon after retirement.
“Also, if in your feed you have seen people tapping their face and their chest, we'll explain what that's all about.”
Transition to News Segment
14:48 to 15:01
Transitioning from sports to a major news story regarding Iran.
“A major CNN investigation tops our world lead today.”
CNN Investigation on Iran's Nuclear Activity
15:01 to 18:16
A detailed report on Iran's suspected nuclear activities based on satellite images.
“Satellite images obtained exclusively by CNN appear to show that Iran is rebuilding nuclear and missile sites throughout the country in the past several weeks.”
Interview with John Bolton
18:16 to 18:57
Former U.S. ambassador John Bolton discusses satellite images and Iran's nuclear program.
“CNN reached out to the Iranian government for comment on the activity detected.”
Evaluating Iranian Intelligence and Threats
18:57 to 22:32
Bolton evaluates the credibility of Israeli intelligence regarding threats against Trump.
“And of course, nobody should be surprised.”
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Transition to Maine Senate Race
22:32 to 23:14
Transitioning to discuss the Maine Senate race and candidate Graham Plattner.
“Maine Democrats have less than three weeks to pick a Senate replacement for Graham Plattner to be the Democratic candidate.”
Interview with Jordan Wood on Plattner Scandal
23:14 to 28:00
Jordan Wood, a candidate for the Senate, discusses the controversies surrounding Graham Plattner.
“Plattner suspended his campaign Wednesday after a CNN interview with a woman who says he raped her in 2021 while he was heavily intoxicated.”
Political Alignment and Personal Background
28:00 to 29:14
Discussion about political issues and personal qualifications.
“Graham and I agree on many of the issues, Medicare for all, universal child care, putting conditions on any aid to Israel, not taking corporate or lobbyist donations.”
Trump's Obsession with Rosie O'Donnell
29:40 to 32:24
Rosie discusses Trump's long-standing fixation on her.
“But now he's defending life as an emergency medicine doctor at Stony Brook in New York.”
Mental Health and Safety Concerns
32:24 to 34:24
Rosie shares her reasons for leaving the U.S. and mental health challenges.
“And he's obsessed with me because I think he's innately a sexist.”
Reflections on America and Trump's Behavior
34:24 to 36:56
Rosie reflects on Trump's presidency and its impacts on the nation.
“Do you have any regrets about leaving or is was it clearly the right decision?”
Upcoming Projects and Closing Remarks
36:56 to 38:46
Discussion of Rosie's upcoming show and closing thanks.
“When you posted about leaving the U.S., you said you might return when, quote, it's safe for all citizens to have equal rights there in America.”
Military Operations and U.S. Naval Presence
38:46 to 42:00
Insight into U.S. military missions in the Arabian Sea.
“ship to Iran as it sails the Arabian Sea.”
Life on the USS Abraham Lincoln
42:00 to 43:41
Hear the personal stories of sailors deployed under constant threat and separation from family.
“Had to go through what was potentially a minefield to get there, which was not something I had in my bingo card for things I would do in my life, go through a minefield.”
Trump's Election Interference
43:41 to 44:12
Discussion of President Trump's recent actions affecting election integrity as midterms approach.
“President Trump takes aim at another group, officials who work on elections.”
Concerns Over Election Security
44:26 to 47:56
Analyzing the implications of Trump's firings and the potential risks to election security.
“This hour with less than four months until the midterm elections, President Trump just fired the leaders of an agency that helps local officials to keep their elections safe.”
The Threat of Authoritarianism
47:57 to 55:20
Exploring the broader implications of Trump's actions on democracy and the potential for authoritarianism.
“The FBI last week ramped up its investigation into the 2020 election in Georgia by dedicating more personnel, an internal memo calling it a priority, according to a source.”
Partially Sucked Out of an Airliner
55:21 to 56:00
An incredible account of a man's near-fatal experience during a flight.
“So, again, we really have to speak out about this and make sure that the courts and the people are prepared to stop them.”
The Threat to Democracy
56:00 to 56:52
Discussion on the importance of addressing threats to democracy over economic issues.
“authoritarian who wants to grab as much power for himself as possible and that places our entire country at risk.”
Incredible Survival Story
56:52 to 57:20
Introduction to an astonishing survival story involving a passenger and a broken airplane window.
“This next one is nothing short of incredible.”
Passenger Pulled from Airplane
57:20 to 59:18
Details of an incident where a passenger was partially sucked out of an airplane and the investigation that follows.
“But there's actually a happy ending in this one.”
Royal Family Reunion
59:18 to 1:02:17
Coverage of a royal family meeting that might indicate a reconciliation.
“And we don't know yet why any of this happened?”
Mysterious Death of Nolan Wells
1:02:17 to 1:06:00
Exploration of the case surrounding the suspicious death of teenager Nolan Wells.
“Demands for answers and accountability in Mississippi after the death, the suspicious death of a black teenager who went out with friends on the 4th of July and never came home.”
Discussion with Benjamin Crump
1:06:00 to 1:10:01
Interview with lawyer Benjamin Crump about the concerns raised by Nolan Wells' family.
“I would love to be able to tell you here's the timeline of events and here's the timeline that separates the two groups.”
Questions Surrounding Nolan's Incident
1:10:01 to 1:10:48
Exploring the unanswered questions and inconsistencies in Nolan's case.
“You also said you wanted to talk with the young man who had been with Nolan.”
Democratic Race for Senate in Maine
1:10:54 to 1:14:25
Discussion on the implications of Graham Plattner's exit and the Democratic candidates.
“Graham Plattner officially makes his exit from Maine's Senate race.”
Candidate Profiles and Strategies
1:14:26 to 1:15:58
A detailed look at Dan Kleban's campaign approach and his views on leadership.
“She's she is the establishment and she stopped looking out for hardworking Mainers.”
Battleground States and Election Dynamics
1:15:59 to 1:21:05
Analysis of key battleground states and the dynamics affecting the upcoming elections.
“That's been Susan Collins's sweet spot cycle after cycle.”
Republican Challenges and Recovery
1:21:06 to 1:23:45
Examining the challenges facing Republican candidates and their strategies.
“But I will say this, Jake, in the green room, I've heard Republicans say Kansas could be in open.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Is the Trump administration telling the truth about this latest deadly shooting? After all, they have lied before. The lead starts right now. New questions tonight about what really happened in the moments before ICE agents killed a Mexican national in Texas. And now local officials are calling for a formal investigation into the death of Lorenzo Salagudo Arrujo. We're going to go live to Houston for new details in moments. Plus, President Trump again today declaring the ceasefire with Iran over. But images exclusively obtained by CNN show that Iran may have used the break in fighting to rebuild and fortify some of its nuclear sites.
0:40So what does that mean for the war? Plus, a famous actress and comedian and talk show host continuing to draw Donald Trump's ire even after she moved out of the country. And now Rosie O'Donnell is back in the United States and talking with the lead.
1:03Welcome to The Lead and Happy Friday. I'm Jake Tapper. We're going to start with our national lead in fresh public outcry in Houston, Texas, after Tuesday's killing of Mexican national Lorenzo Salgado Arrujo by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer, or ICE. A source tells us that Salgado Arrujo was not the target of this operation. The 52-year-old was just on his way to work and apparently in the wrong place at the wrong time. But now there are new questions about ICE's account of the shooting, which does not match up with the surviving witnesses' account. Here's what we know. Three other men were in the white work van owned by the man who was shot and killed when ICE agents tried to stop the van.
1:44And ICE's statement says Salgado Arrujo tried to ram into an ICE SUV and tried to run over an officer. Here's attorney Hugo Balderes Ibarra representing two of the three other men that were in the van. At no point did they ever use the van to ram into the ICE agents. And at no point were these ICE agents' lives ever in any danger. Now, the attorney also told the Washington Post that the work van slowed down before ICE vehicles rammed into it, not the other way around, adding that an ICE agent then got out of his car and started shooting almost immediately. To be clear, we do not have video of the moment of death, only surveillance videos of the unmarked SUVs following the van and the disturbing video of the aftermath that you're watching now.
2:32Salgado Arrujo's son, Ronaldo, spoke about his father earlier this week. He did not deserve to die. He did not deserve to be reduced to a headline of Mexican man shot and killed by ICE. He deserved to live a quiet life as Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a husband, a father and a job creator for dozens of men who also wanted the American dream. Now, Salgado Araujo's death is the first deadly shooting involving federal immigration agents and agents since U.S. citizens Renee Good and Alex Preddy were killed in Minneapolis about six months ago. Now, it's not just Trump's immigration officers under scrutiny.
3:16Deployed Tennessee National Guardsmen, part of the administration's Memphis Safe Task Force, shot and killed two people in the span of four days this week. We'll have more on that in a moment, but we're going to start our coverage in Houston. where CNN's Carolina Peguero is. And Carolina, the attorney also revealed what Salgado Arujo said right after he was shot. That is true, Jake. Lots of information and many questions unanswered here in the east end of Houston. As you can see, there's still people that are coming here to pay their respects to Lorenzo Salgado Arujo. And the family of Arujo have yet been able to claim his body.
3:56However, the city and the district attorney's office have made information saying that they are aware that these ICE agents that were involved have been removed from the city of Houston. However, they are not aware or know if they are still conducting their duties. The lawyer, on the other hand, of the men that were with Lorenzo, including in that van, his brother, have given written statements of what they witnessed moments before. I am calling for the immediate release of my clients from Conroe, from the Montgomery Processing Center. I believe that given the magnitude of this case and the implications that it carries, my clients may be pressured into signing documentation to sign for their voluntary departure.
4:45I think it is extremely important that we preserve the integrity of this investigation. That we'll all be out the window if they are deported. In Salgado, Arujo's last words was, they are trying to kill me. That's where a lot of those videos where people have been seeing all over social media, they don't know, however, those exact moments of when he was shot. However, DHS has given several statements, including the following, that the allegations of the ICE asked residents and members of the public to delete their footage of the incident are categorically false. This is a total fabrication made up to demonize our brave ICE officers as well as it's categorically false, we would pressure someone to self-deport.
5:32Now, we are going to continue to be here in the scene as well. We've heard that there are family members that have been coming to the site as well as a vigil that is expected for tomorrow morning. Jake. All right, Carolina Peguero in Houston, Texas. Thanks so much. CNN's Priscilla Alvarez joins us now. Priscilla, I'm just going to make an observation, which is for a year and a half now, we've been hearing ICE and DHS say things are false when they turn out to be true. It's happened time and time again. I don't know how much longer they expect the public to believe them. OK, moving on. Tell us more about your reporting on all these conflicting accounts.
6:08Well, and to your point, Jake, these are conflicting accounts that also find themselves their way to the courtroom, where judges as well have found them to be not truthful. But in this case, multiple sources that I have spoken with said that what transpired here was that they essentially had embarked on this immigration operation with another target in mind. That target had actually come to their intention because of a tip from Texas authorities in some previous encounter where there were two men who were believed to not have legal status traveling in a white van. Now, when the ICE agents were heading to that address of the property with a white van, a white van that they had been surveilling, they spotted another white van and they started to pursue that one.
6:50Mistakenly. Mistakenly. Now, again, this is a case of which there were two similar vans and two vans on this property, so they figured they would follow it. And they thought that somebody in the van resembled their original target. So they follow this van. We know that there was two vehicles that we have seen in surveillance. You can see some of that footage there. I'm told they were boxed in. So they boxed in Salgado's vehicle. They had known as they were following the vehicle that he was the registered owner of it. And he, too, did not have a legal status. And then the shooting transpired. Now, this is where we don't have as much information because the officers did not have body cam.
7:32And their vehicles, which are generally unmarked, also typically don't have dash cam. So that is why there are so many questions about what happened in that particular moment, because up until now, the footage that we've been seeing is from eyewitnesses or from areas, buildings nearby that had cameras on them. So this is sort of the black box of information that everyone is trying to understand as to did officers get out of the vehicle? Was there a ramming that happened? Did they try to ram into or they being Salgado try to ram into an ICE agent? The family says that's absolutely not the case and that he would have complied had he known it was ICE.
8:07Again, they are typically in unmarked vehicles. Unmarked cars, so you don't know who it is. So the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, Inspector General, and the Harris County, or Harris District Attorney, they're all investigating this, so we hope to get more answers soon. But right now, there are still so many questions as to what happened in that moment of the shooting. And the three passengers who are in ICE custody have been sharing some of what they experienced with their attorney. Just quickly, Priscilla, ICE agents are not required to wear body cams? They are, but they're distributing them slowly.
8:38They hadn't been. It's very complicated, but Houston had not. Distributing them slowly. That's interesting. Priscilla Alvarez, thanks so much. Harris County Judge Lena Hidalgo joins us now. Harris County encompasses Houston. Judge Hidalgo. Houston Mayor John Whitmire said this about the federal investigation into Salgado Arrujo's death. Take a listen. They have the evidence, in this instance, the van, the passengers, the deceased, and they're tightly controlling it.
9:15We've reached out to them and asked them, share that information with HPD. So when he says they have the evidence, he's referring to the federal government, the Trump administration, and he says he wants an independent investigation. The FBI is going to meet with his investigators. Are you worried at all about the Trump administration potentially not sharing all this evidence, potentially, you know, covering it all up?
9:41of course i mean first let me let me be clear my title is judge but i'm the executive for harris county and that includes funding our district attorney's office sheriff the jail etc one of the the the issues here of course is this is a long time coming and it goes to the conversation you were just having about the body cameras sure we don't have the footage and we're not getting certain information, you can sort of imagine what it would look like. I've been hearing for many months from community members, from teachers about kids not showing up to school, about people not showing up to work because they're too scared to be out and about.
10:19And as we've talked about before, if you see an unmarked vehicle, what is the most likely thing you're going to do, whether you are an immigrant or not? Our district attorney here, Shantier, has launched an investigation as well. I'm glad to see that the city of Houston is also launching an investigation. For me, it's not important who does it as long as it's not, you know, the fox guarding the hen house. That's not picking on ice or the federal government. And as long as we get the information that we need. The attorney today called for a private investigation. I'm happy for Harris County to support that as well.
11:01and I think what we all are united on whether it be the city mayor the county executive myself or or the other stakeholders is we would like to get this information but either way either way it's absolutely unacceptable we just had our last FIFA match we showed the world the most beautiful side of Houston and now it's this horrendous underbelly and so I'm hoping that this will be another watershed moment, not to say, hey, let's all have body cameras, but for everybody in the country to say that is enough. It's embarrassing. It is unfair. And this is not something that should be happening in this country.
11:45So Salgado Arrujo's son said that his dad would have pulled over if he knew that the unmarked cars belong to ICE agents. Are they required to identify themselves before they pull people over? Do they announce on the loudspeaker, this is ICE pullover? Because obviously a van just pushing on somebody, blocking them in could be interpreted as maybe it's not law enforcement. Maybe it's a criminal activity. Yes. I mean, they're not, right? And so that's where we've had meetings with teachers and from public schools. We've had meetings. We run also the public health department in Harris County. So our doctors, heads of clinics, people are not coming in because you don't know at what point an unmarked vehicle might approach you.
12:38And then what? And I have to believe that this gentleman, there's no reason for him, certainly being an immigrant, certainly in this climate, to try to disobey law enforcement orders. And let me just add something else, is I might be the county executive of the third largest county in the country, but I'm also an immigrant. And I immigrated in 2005. I didn't have my U.S. citizenship until 2013. and we did it the right way and it takes time, okay? And the state has fought for illegal immigration to be a crime because it wasn't and that's still in the courts. So let's not get bogged down in the details.
13:24Let's honor the life of this gentleman and let's do that by demanding an end to this police state type behavior that we've been seeing. Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo, thank you so much for your time today. Coming up next to CNN Exclusive, finding that Iran might be attempting to rebuild some of its nuclear sites. We're going to show you those images in moments. Plus, President Trump says he's laid out specific plans for how the U.S. should respond if Iran attempts to assassinate him. The president going on to say he's number one in Iran's kill list. Those details ahead.
14:04I'm Adi Cornish. I'm Ari Shapiro and it's Engagement Party. And we get to talk about what we're obsessed with, what we're engaged with, what we need to process with a friend. We're going to be talking about two of the most famous women in the world, Taylor Swift and Serena Williams. Also, if in your feed you have seen people tapping their face and their chest, we'll explain what that's all about. If you haven't, we will still explain what that's all And of course, we're starting with Serena Williams because she's back. She is back. As we are recording this, she is playing in Wimbledon where she is a wild card.
14:37This is a huge deal because she's been retired for a couple of years. It was a big splash when she retired. But it's also coming on the heels of her announcement that she was on a GLP-1. And just so we're clear, peptides, all this stuff, none of it is banned from sports. Follow Engagement Party. Wherever you get your podcasts. A major CNN investigation tops our world lead today. Satellite images obtained exclusively by CNN appear to show that Iran is rebuilding nuclear and missile sites throughout the country in the past several weeks. That time frame puts Iran in violation of the Memorandum of Understanding agreed to by the U.S.
15:14and Iran, an agreement that's now in serious jeopardy amid renewed fighting. Here's CNN investigative reporter Katie Poglase. This image, one of several shared exclusively with CNN, may show signs of Iran attempting to rebuild its nuclear facilities. This is one of several locations across the country where we've identified recent activity both in nuclear and missile sites. The activity in nuclear sites in particular raises questions as to whether Iran violated the memorandum of understanding it signed with the US in late June, even before President Trump seemed to signal its end by launching fresh strikes.
15:51In it, Tehran had agreed not to procure or develop nuclear weapons. This site in Parchin is believed to be holding explosive material for nuclear weapons. Before the US-Israeli strikes, Iran built this concrete shield around it, a sign of its importance. It was then struck multiple times during the US-Israel bombing campaign this year. The targeting was precise. You could see the holes left behind by bunker-busting bombs. Now in new imagery from June and July, analysed by CNN in conjunction with the Institute for Science and International Security, we can see Iran appeared to be taking steps to repair and reconstruct the site.
16:30You can see temporary covers placed over the impact holes. Then, weeks later, with the memorandum still in effect, the covers are removed and replaced with a mesh. Concrete mixing trucks are visible nearby. Experts say these trucks are a sign the Iranians are intending to seal the holes. For weeks, we've only had glimpses of what's been happening on the ground inside Iran. Providers have been withholding satellite imagery across the region at the request of the US government. Now, those restrictions are loosening and we've been able to see new images across Iran of which sites they've started to clear and repair first, a sign perhaps of which they see as the most important.
17:09This is Pickaxe Mountain, another site where Iran is believed to be advancing its nuclear capabilities deep underground. And in recent weeks, vehicles could clearly be seen going in and out of the tunnels. Experts told CNN this was likely a violation of the terms signed with the US, which required Iran to maintain the status quo regarding their nuclear program. In contrast, other prominent nuclear sites did not seem to have been touched, like Isfahan here, Fordow here and Natanz. There has been activity at some missile sites. The US and its allies have long been concerned about Tehran's missile capacity, and the latest imagery suggests Iran has already started repairing some storage sites.
17:51This is new paving laid out at Tabriz missile base in recent days. And at another missile base in Kermanshah, we can see excavators and tunnel entrances being cleared. Lastly, we've also spotted repairs at air bases in recent days. You can see a crater being filled in here at Tabriz Air Base. With the U.S. resuming its attacks on Iran, a peace agreement is seeming increasingly out of reach. Katie Paul Glaze, CNN, London. And our thanks to Katie Paul Glaze. CNN reached out to the Iranian government for comment on the activity detected. Responding to CNN's findings, a Pentagon official said they would not discuss battlefield conditions or intelligence matters due to operational security.
18:30Joining us now to discuss former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton. And he's also a former national security advisor for President Trump during Trump's first term. We should note he is not able to discuss the classified information case against him, which he pled guilty to in June. So I'm not going to waste anybody's time. Ambassador, what is your reaction to these exclusively obtained satellite images showing recent activity at Iranian nuclear and missile sites? That seems like a clear violation of the memorandum of understanding, right? Well, of course it is. And of course, nobody should be surprised.
19:02There has never been a single bit of evidence, to my knowledge, that Iran has ever made a strategic decision to give up its pursuit of nuclear weapons. It pledges over and over again that it's not seeking nuclear weapons, but it has been for 30 or more years, and it is today. There's no doubt in my mind about it. President Trump seemed to confirm that Israel recently shared with him new intelligence about an Iranian plot to assassinate the president. The president told the New York Post today, quote, I've left instructions if anything happens to just literally bomb them at levels that they've never seen before, unquote.
19:37We know there have been similar threats before against President Trump. You've also been the target of an Iranian assassination plot. How credible do you believe this Israeli intelligence is? Well, without seeing it, it's obviously hard to judge it. But to me, it sounds very credible. I mean, one of the problems that we face in Iran today is there's not a functioning government. I think it's a dangerous illusion that although it's been wounded, the government kind of continues as it was before. Indeed, the memorandum of understanding was negotiated with a bunch of civilians who don't have control of the weapons that are now being used in the Gulf and in the Strait of Hormuz against commercial traffic.
20:20And it's the Revolutionary Guard, not the civilians, who are in control of the nuclear program. So I think all of this puts it together that it's entirely possible that either the Revolutionary Guard or the Ministry of Information and Security, the MOIS, is continuing to plot Trump's assassination, as it has since the strike against Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Quds Force back in January of 2020, where the first death threats more than threats. the activity to try and assassinate President Trump and a number of others of us down the line for that strike. I suspect the list is even longer today.
20:58Let me just say one thing about the Israeli intelligence, because I've heard this speculation that the Israelis are trying to con the United States and poor naive Donald Trump into thinking that there's an assassination plot where none exists. Presumably, everything that the Israelis had and was given to the United States was reviewed by American intelligence agencies. And if they doubted that there was a plot going on, I think the president probably would have gotten on his shiny, refurbished 747 instead of the old one. So I think it's just a little bit more than cynical to say that somehow the Israelis want this up without a basis.
21:40If American intelligence doesn't believe it, they should say so. Despite all of this, nuclear talks appear to be ongoing. This morning, President Trump posted on social media, quote, the Islamic Republic of Iran has asked us to continue talks. We've agreed to do so, but the United States has said to them in no uncertain terms that the ceasefire is over, unquote. What's your reaction to that? I'm not sure it's true. I think Trump makes up what he wants to make about these negotiations. And let's also be clear, the bulk of the negotiations are proximity talks. The U.S. talks to the mediators, Qatar and Pakistan.
22:14They then talk to the Iranians. The Iranians talk back to the mediators who then talk to us. And the idea that somehow negotiations are continuing is part of Trump's desperate effort to lead people to believe that the memorandum of understanding is still alive, which I think it's not. Former Ambassador John Bolton, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thank you. Maine Democrats have less than three weeks to pick a Senate replacement for Graham Plattner to be the Democratic candidate. One of the people who's already thrown their hat into the ring joins us live next.
23:14the U.S. Senate race in Maine. Plattner suspended his campaign Wednesday after a CNN interview with a woman who says he raped her in 2021 while he was heavily intoxicated. It's an allegation Plattner denies. Joining me now is one of five declared candidates running to replace Plattner as the Democratic nominee, Jordan Wood. Jordan Wood is former chief of staff to Congresswoman Katie Porter and ran unsuccessfully to be a Democratic candidate for Maine's second congressional district. Thanks for joining us, Jordan. So you entered the Senate race in April 2025, months later called on Plattner to drop out after his resurfaced Reddit posts and reports of a tattoo with Nazi symbolism.
23:53In an interview with the advocate, you said, quote, I believe deeply in second chances. But what I saw was someone who doesn't understand what's wrong with these statements, these Reddit statements, how offensive and threatening they are, not just to LGBTQ people, but to people of color and women, unquote. After that, you left that race and then ran in the main second congressional district race. Why did you leave the Senate field to begin with? And why did you leave it to someone that you think is a threat to so many people?
24:23Yeah, when the Reddit post came out, I took time to see what Graham's response to that would be. And again, to hear his explanation, I didn't find it to be truthful, called for him to drop out, which people would say is political opportunities. And we have ranked choice voting in Maine. So you actually have no incentive for calling someone to leave the race. It will upset their supporters. But when I did that, my hope was that there would be other national and party leaders in the state that joined me. and nobody did. And I received a lot of just threats, people telling me I needed to get out of the race.
25:10And I didn't want to continue on a campaign where that question of why are you trying to bring down Graham Plattner persisted. It was not productive. Graham and I agree on the issues. We're both millennials, reformers. And so I left the race. it was a hard decision, but ultimately I didn't see that it was going to be helpful. So why is it that so many Democrats stood by him after the Reddit posts, after the Totenkopf, the Nazi SS tattoo, after the extramarital sexting, after so many scandals? It wasn't until Monday after Politico and CNN ran stories, and then we ran an on-the-record, on-camera interview with Jannie Rassacott in which she said that he raped her.
25:59He denies that. That's when people finally started withdrawing their support. Why did it take all of that? By the way, a lot of these details, not as in explicit detail, but a lot of stuff about him physically abusing a different ex-girlfriend, Lindsey Fifield, were published by the New York Times before the primary. Yeah, as I have thought about it myself, you know, when I left the Senate race, I said, whoever comes out of the Democratic nomination, I will support. And as I thought about it was we want to forgive people. We want to give them second chances, especially for somebody like Ram who's had a difficult life.
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26:40I'm going to come to know him very well. And his behavior moving forward is what he should be judged on. And the allegations are of his past. They are disqualified nonetheless, but I think there is a real motivation, a real conviction among the people here. We're good people and want to give people that ability to transform, to be better people and improve their lives. And unfortunately, to do that, you must be truthful about your past. And what became clear through every single instance that you mentioned is that in each one of those times, Graham said, this is the last one. This is the last thing that will come out.
27:25That that was also a lie. So but I have a great deal of grace for the people of Maine that that we their hearts are in the right place. And you want those people, you want the Democrats of Maine to support you. Why should they support you? Well, what we are facing right now is an emergency, but a challenge to put forward the best candidate that we can in the short amount of period to defeat Susan Collins. How does that candidate carry on the platform, the agenda that was voted for in the primary? I know this and the voters may know this because we campaigned on it. Graham and I agree on many of the issues, Medicare for all, universal child care, putting conditions on any aid to Israel, not taking corporate or lobbyist donations.
28:11You know, there's agreement there. Voters know that it's not a new question. My website has had it up there the whole time. But we also need to find a candidate that is able to separate on a on a moral or character level that can be trusted. You know, I as the first Democrat that that really called this out with the hope that people in my own party would join me. I think that that there's a hard way to make an accusation that I didn't do what I could to try to prevent the disaster we're dealing with right now. But I also am born and raised in Maine. I come from a working class family. My father is a pastor.
28:49I'm raising my family in the same neighborhood that I lived in when I was in high school. So, you know, again, Graham and I, we're very different people, but we are also pushing an agenda platform that is aligned. And I think that makes me uniquely qualified to be the candidate to carry in the Democrats we need, but also persuade over independence and people that have voted for Susan Collins in the past. All right, Jordan Wood, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Comedian Rosie O'Donnell has long been on the receiving end of President Trump's attack. So why is Trump so seemingly obsessed with her?
29:24She shares her thoughts next.
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30:48Get out of here. Crashers, all new Monday at 1030 on HGTV. You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. Your Twitter account. Only Rosie O'Donnell. In our pop culture lead, Donald Trump being nasty about Rosie O'Donnell is not a new thing. It goes back quite a ways. And their animosity has been thrust back into the spotlight because not just of that moment during the summer of 2015 and the Republican debates, but more than a decade later, President Trump is still attacking the comedian, actress and former talk show host. Trump recently posted this A.I. slop on his social media platform.
31:35Have you or someone you know been diagnosed with TDS? The symptoms can be relentless. Fortunately, I'm Dr. Trump and I have a treatment plan. Let's hear what some of my patients have to say. I have been suffering for over a decade. And after listening to Dr. Trump, I can see some results. Again, that's the president of the United States posting that. And the Emmy Award winning Rosie O'Donnell is here now. Thanks so much for joining us. What's your reaction to that AI generated video sent out by the president of the United States showing you and Robert De Niro and Julia Roberts and Whoopi Goldberg, etc.
32:14Well, I think I'm in good company, number one. And number two, you know, I seem to be the, you know, obsession he can't get rid of. You know, he's obsessed with Barack Obama, and I think that's because he's innately a racist. And he's obsessed with me because I think he's innately a sexist. And I grew up not very far from where he grew up. Now, he's 80. I'm 64. But I remember what a buffoon he was and how everyone in New York had his number. He never fooled anyone. He was never a guest on my show until we had a charity drive where if a celebrity would come in sweeping with the Swifter, we would get$1 ,000 to charity.
32:56So I let him sweep my stage one day and wave to him. But I never interviewed him. I knew what he was and who he was, as did every New Yorker my age. You actually sold your homes and you left the United States because of safety concerns after Trump was reelected. You're on the Jersey Shore right now. Well, it was really it wasn't really safety, Jake. It was mental health concerns. OK, I knew that when he when he was in last time, it was very difficult for me. I have an autistic child who's 13 and I have four other children. And I know with my diagnosis of major depressive disorder, I have to stay on top of my medication and of my mental health and my physical exercise and my joy.
33:43And that I was so horrified when he got the Republican nomination. I thought if he left after reading all of Project 2025, if he got elected, we would have to go. And I never thought that before in my life. I was never someone who would, you know, announce that to the press. I kept it very quiet. I did it for my own safety and my child's safety. And you're back in the United States right now, we should know, because ahead of your one woman show, Common Knowledge, which opens off Broadway for a limited run starting July 22nd. It is a personal story about your move to Dublin, Ireland with your youngest child.
34:25What has that move been like? Do you have any regrets about leaving or is was it clearly the right decision? It was very clearly the right decision. The people of Ireland are so unbelievably welcoming and kind. And I have had nothing but love from everyone. And one cab driver was a Trump fan. And when I got in the car, he said, are you Rosie McDonald? You're the reporter that hates Trump. I said, well, close, sir, but not exactly. But yes, that's I'm I'm who you think, you know, he's the best president in the world. I said, you're going to have to shut up or pull over. Those are your two options at this point, you know.
35:05But everyone else in this country has been like, I'll be at a pub with my family and friends and somebody will come over. I just like to buy you a paint, Rosie, because I hate him, too. And I'm like, well, thank you very much. I appreciate your understanding. Before, I mean, you note that you called it an obsession. It is clearly unusual how much he posts about you. Before he posted that AI video, he posted these cartoon images of you with an image of himself in each of the thought bubbles and the caption, she is obsessed. She is, there's a question mark after she. Well, he also called you a threat to humanity.
35:46Yeah. Said you should remain in the wonderful country of Ireland if they want. And he said he was giving serious thought to taking away your citizenship, which I'm not sure he's legally allowed to do. Why is he still so fixated on you? You're being quiet in Ireland. well i'm not being all that quiet on social media you know i'm standing up for the country that i love so much and i'm calling him out at at every turn where his blatant criminal behavior in the white house needs to be addressed and you know he had a very long run of lies with the celebrity apprentice and those people who are watching and believing that it set up a cult-like status for him where his people don't care about anything he does apparently even the sexual abuse of children and uh that's a line that i never thought we would get to in this country that there could be such a mediocre man with such horrible horrible reputation could be running this great nation of ours and uh i think it's the worst thing that ever happened to the united states and if we don't wake up soon.
36:56It's going to be too late. When you posted about leaving the U.S., you said you might return when, quote, it's safe for all citizens to have equal rights there in America. Does that mean that when Trump leaves office, presumably January 2029, you'll come back or it depends on who wins the election in 2028? Yes. Well, I don't think, Jake, that he is going to survive that long. All the medical doctors that you can get accurate opinions of what's happening to him because his demise is visible and apparent to everyone who is not willfully blind. I mean, he called Zelensky Putin. He makes the kind of mistakes that you would forgive at Thanksgiving dinner, but you would never let grandpa cut the turkey because it might be dangerous because he doesn't know what he's saying.
37:49Don't forget he referred to the Islamic Republic of Japan, I think, as well. Correct. I mean, we can sit here and name them. There are so many obvious understanding of his dementia and how it's taking over. And I know there are millions of Americans who have lived through parents and loved ones going through exactly what he's going through. And everyone just sits around and goes, fo de o do do, you know, and I don't understand it. I think my displeasure with the Democratic Party's attack of him and the urgency by which they need to break the glass in case of emergency. It is an emergency. It's not like fascism might come here.
38:29Fascism has already arrived. So the one woman show is Common Knowledge starts July 22nd off Broadway. And then later in the summer, you're also going to be substitute hosting on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Rosie O'Donnell. So great having you. Thank you so much. And thank you, Jake. Appreciate it.
39:13the closest U.S. ship to Iran as it sails the Arabian Sea. CNN's Pamela Brown shares with us right now a firsthand look at the mission of these warships. She also spoke with the commanding officer responsible for the safety of 20 ,000 people both on deck and below, and even in the skies above the disputed Strait of Hormuz.
39:36One fighter jet after another takes off from the USS thus Abraham Lincoln. Overnight missions amid rising tensions with Iran. We're in the Gulf of Oman, near the Strait of Hormuz, aboard a ship President Trump says has been attacked more than 100 times since the conflict began. You know, the Iranians were looking for opportunities to attack this ship. I think we're very well defended. They don't get close. Earlier, we watched as missiles were prepped and loaded onto these fighter jets. The mission, as real as it gets. I want to show you these symbols right here. These are drones right here that this fighter jet has taken out during this conflict that started five and a half months ago.
40:24These are missiles that have been taken out just by this fighter jet alone. With the Lincoln under constant threat of attack, it's guarded by Navy destroyers for protection. On a chopper headed to the USS Frank E. Peterson Jr. destroyer high above the Gulf of Oman, we get our first look at vessels headed toward the Strait of Hormuz. See, we've got five vessels so far. Our secret area has five. They get back right here. Turn around. Now, see, this ship right there passed by. That's got the sixth ship you see. The traffic is lower now as tensions rise again in the Gulf. Officially, the Navy reports 20 vessels around the strait as we head to our destination.
41:12The warship, they say, is at the tip of the spear. We are the closest Navy ship to Iran right now. Correct. You're right on what we call the picket line, the firing line right now. So if Iran were to attack the U.S. naval forces, we'd be the first ones they'd be attacking. But don't worry. Our radars are working. Our guns work. You have a lot of well-trained folks down below. Threats are part of life out here. If you don't obey my order, you will be targeted. Like when Captain Mahan led this ship through the Strait of Hormuz in April. Radio transmissions between the U.S. and Iran were released by Iran state media.
41:48Mahan confirmed to CNN an exchange did happen. I'm ready to open fire on them without any warning. And so the Iranians were threatening. Correct, yeah. They told us, hey, you have to turn around within 30 minutes to roll up a fire on you. We kept going, obviously. Had to go through what was potentially a minefield to get there, which was not something I had in my bingo card for things I would do in my life, go through a minefield. The firepower aboard this ship is everywhere. We have this as our last-ditch defense. Captain Mahan calls the shots from a command center several decks below. Just with Iran being to the north, you're always on the lookout for all kinds of threats.
42:24Have you had any close calls? My flight really starts at that Iranian coastline and comes all the way back. I don't wait for it to come to me. I go out and I try to meet that threat. Back on the Abraham Lincoln, it can be tough to keep spirits high for the nearly 5 ,000 people here. Because of its limited port visits, the Navy considers this deployment among the longest consecutive days at sea for any aircraft carrier. I mean, I haven't stepped off the ship in the year 2026. Most have been here more than three months, under constant threat and change and missing their families. What kind of toll does that take on you personally?
43:04It's tough. I had my first kid born in February, so I'm very excited to get home and meet her. You've never met your daughter? Nope. She was born right around when this conflict started. She was born February 6th, so I was able to get on FaceTime, watch the birth, talk to my wife before everything went down. And you don't know when you'll be able to do that? Nope. We'll see. I mean, hopefully home soon. But unfortunately, it's a common story on the ship, I think. You know, getting the Navy, this is what you kind of sign up for. Pamela Brown, CNN, USS Abraham Lincoln. And our thanks to CNN's Pamela Brown.
43:41President Trump takes aim at another group, officials who work on elections. and this time it's a bipartisan group, and they're meant to keep elections safe. You're voting safe. Those details next.
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44:27This hour with less than four months until the midterm elections, President Trump just fired the leaders of an agency that helps local officials to keep their elections safe. Why? Why would a president who constantly talks about wanting to secure elections do this now? Plus, the family of Nolan Wells pleading for answers tonight after the 18-year-old died on a July 4th boat trip with friends. His parents have now commissioned an independent investigation to try to figure out what happened. Their attorney, Ben Crump, on the lead ahead. Also, a mid-flight nightmare. A man was partially sucked out of a Ryan airplane after the window next to him broke.
45:04Passengers sitting nearby had to hold him down to stop him from being fully yanked into the sky. We're going to have those terrifying details this hour. And it's a royal reunion, years in the making. King Charles hosting not just his son, Prince Harry, but also Meghan and their two children. Earlier today, the first time the king has seen that family in four years. What we're learning about the visit ahead.
45:30The lead tonight from the man who brought you January 6th, a new pattern of aggressive moves, raising alarm and questions about what he's going to do this October. However, President Donald Trump last night fired the leadership of the Election Assistance Commission. That's the federal agency that provides funding and security guidance to election officials, and it certifies voting equipment. It's one of the few remaining entities of its kind because the Trump administration has already gutted the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. CNN requested comment from the White House and the EEAC.
46:06Democratic Senator Mark Warner, who is the vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee, reacted in a statement to the firing saying, quote, removing every remaining commissioner just months before the 2026 midterm elections is an extraordinary step that raises profound concerns about political interference in the institutions that support our elections. Removing every remaining commissioner just months before the 2026 midterm elections. And of course, the question, of course, raises profound concerns about what President Trump has planned. This is just one piece of a larger puzzle in Trump's election-obsessed words and actions.
46:46First of all, you still typically can't go a week without Trump saying falsely that he won the 2020 election. He did not. Here he was just two days ago. I've been right about everything, and I have been for a long time. That's how I got to be president three times. That's how I won three elections. They did very well in the second one, won it. It was a rigged election. He did not do very well in the second one, won it. He lost it. He did very poorly. It was not a rigged election. He continues to lie about this. And remember how people drunk on those false election conspiracies behaved. A violent attack on the U.S.
47:28Capitol on January 6, 2021, that resulted in five people dead, one police officer who died immediately afterward, four other police officers who took their own lives after experiencing that trauma, and more than 140 law enforcement wounded or maimed. The president was looking to have the will of the American people obstructed and subverted. He wanted to stop the counting of electors. He wanted to have fake electors make him president. It's a plot that failed, but not for lack of trying. And now here we are more than five years later, and there are questions as to what he is planning for 2026 or 2028.
48:03The FBI last week ramped up its investigation into the 2020 election in Georgia by dedicating more personnel, an internal memo calling it a priority, according to a source. The seizure, let us not forget, of Georgia's Fulton County ballots and election materials. Now, that was driven by a man named Kurt Olson. Kurt Olson was a presidentially appointed director of election security and integrity. Integrity being a rather loose term, given that Kurt Olson is a 2020 election denier who was actually fined by a court for his 2022 lawsuit that falsely claimed Arizona voting machines were unreliable and subject to manipulation.
48:46Now, interestingly, last month, Olson went from the White House to the Justice Department. He's a senior attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Hmm. Now, for more pieces of the puzzle. In February, the office of the director of national intelligence under Tulsi Gabbard at the time said that they had obtained electronic voting machines in Puerto Rico back in 2025 to look for security vulnerabilities. Now Gabbard is out as spy chief, replaced by Bill Pulte, who's interim director of national intelligence. Pulte has no relevant experience in intelligence or national security, but lots of experience in being a Trump loyalist and in weaponizing the government.
49:26The president has said Pulte will investigate elections, and Pulte's now chosen chief of staff is a woman who worked on election-related issues for the Republican National Committee. Then there's Trump's plan for the U.S. Postmaster General to not deliver mail-in ballots in states that don't turn over their voter rolls. If courts don't ultimately kill this, it would put more voter data in the hands of Trump officials looking for supposed election fraud. Also, in the new book, Regime Change, by Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan, they write, the authors, that as tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela heated up last year, President Trump taught MAGA pundit Tucker Carlson, tried to use him as a go-between between himself and then Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
50:16From the book, quote, As bait, Maduro had claimed to Carlson that he could furnish proof U.S. voting machines were tampered with in 2020, a transparently calculated appeal to Trump's unfounded stolen election grievances. And he had told Carlson he wanted warmer relations with Washington, unquote. Now, since then, of course, Maduro was captured by U.S. forces. He currently sits in a New York detention center. Given that he was already willing to make false claims about Venezuela rigging the 2020 election to ingratiate himself with Trump, what might Maduro be willing to say now to get out of jail to avoid spending the rest of his life behind bars?
50:53What might the U.S. back for placement of Maduro? Delce Rodriguez, what might she be willing to say or do? Put all of this together, many government officials are wondering, concerned, some terrified, about what exactly President Trump and all the president's men are planning. We're talking about a man who on the first day of his second term pardoned the January 6 rioters, many of whom had committed violence, including beating up cops in Trump's name. We're going to continue to monitor all of this, but what happened yesterday is part of it. Let's discuss with Democratic Congressman Adam Smith of Washington State, the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee.
51:30Congressman, let's go to your area of expertise as member of the House, top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee. Back in 2020 and 2021, when Trump was also clearly planning to do something inappropriate with the election, the Secretary of Defense was Mark Esper, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was General Mark Milley. Did you have any conversations with either of them at the time? And do you think the people who now hold those positions, Pete Hegseth and General Cain, would also defend the Constitution and fair elections if it came down to it? I had multiple conversations with both Secretary Esper and Chairman Milley.
52:08And look, we all three shared the concern that President Trump would try to steal the election and might use the military as part of how he would do that. So we monitored it very closely. Now, Chairman Milley, Secretary Esper, they were dedicated to the Constitution. They were loyal to the Constitution, not to President Trump. And I think they were helpful in making sure that everybody in the Pentagon understood that that was the priority. Now, I do have some confidence in Chairman Cain. I think he's a dedicated service member who would put the Constitution first. I have no confidence in Secretary Hagsath.
52:43And what's more, President Trump, as you've just outlined, across the government has replaced people who would be loyal to the law and the Constitution with people who are only loyal to him. So there is a much greater risk this time that he will use the government to basically steal the midterm elections. You note that you have trust in the Joint Chiefs Chairman General Cain. Pete Hegseth, Secretary Hegseth has spent a lot of the last year and a half getting rid of senior officers in our armed forces. He's gotten rid of generals. He's gotten rid of admirals, people who are highly respected, nonpartisan.
53:23And there is also a concern that he is replacing them with loyalists. Might that potentially play a role in whatever is being planned for September or October? I mean, absolutely. You've seen it both at the Department of Defense and also in the intel community as people have been moved around and they've been putting in loyalists. Yes, that that absolutely could be an impact. Look, the scenario you envision is they seize voting machines. They refuse to certify elections. People show up in protest and they use either DOD or DHS, you know, basically to block people from stopping this. Now, I think it's really important right now that we do exactly what you're doing, which is shine a light on this, because a stunning number of people in this country would still go, oh, come on.
54:14You know, President Trump said that doesn't happen here. And they're right. It doesn't happen here. But it does happen in the mind of Donald Trump. And he's president. We have to not have a failure of imagination here. We have to shine a light on this, prepare the courts and prepare the people to stand up and stop Trump from doing this. Last time President Trump had a vice president, Mike Pence, who was dedicated to the Constitution to the degree that Trump supporters outside the Capitol on January 6th were literally chanting, hang Mike Pence. He did the right thing. He stood up for the rule of law in the Constitution.
54:52Do you think Vice President Vance would do the same? And is there anyone in Trump's cabinet who you would trust to intervene if things went too far this year or in 2028? No, I certainly don't see Vice President Vance doing what Mike Pence did. And no, I don't see anyone in the cabinet who I would trust to do that. Loyalty has come before the Constitution, before the country. So it puts us in an incredibly dangerous position with a cabinet we cannot trust and a president we cannot trust. So, again, we really have to speak out about this and make sure that the courts and the people are prepared to stop them.
55:33Look, I still think the bulk of the country, the bulk of Republicans, for that matter, believe in representative democracy and believe in our Constitution. institution they've just deluded themselves toward and in terms of the threat that trump poses to all of that there's a bunch of different reasons for it we've talked about it okay so they don't like the democrats they don't like the left i get that but you should understand that even though trump presents himself as the one standing up against those things what he really is is an authoritarian who wants to grab as much power for himself as possible and that places our entire country at risk.
56:07And I think we need to talk about that. I know the pollsters say, you know, talk about housing, talk about affordability, talk about costs. That's what people care about, kitchen table issues. I think people care about democracy. I think people care about stopping a fascist takeover of our country. We have to make the case. And given the threat that you have outlined, we have to convince them to be concerned about it if they're not. Well, I mean, the president and his team are welcome to come on the show at any time and explain all of these things that are happening, including the firing of the Election Commission last night.
56:39I would just note that if these elections are fixed by Democrats, they're doing a pretty shitty job because Republicans control the House and the Senate and the White House and arguably the Supreme Court. Democratic Congressman Adam Smith of Washington State, thank you so much. This next one is nothing short of incredible. A man sucked partially out of an airliner. He lived to talk about it. Plus, a ministry leader and former Marine in Colorado has long claimed that an abusive stepfather forced him to kill a man. Kill a man when he was just seven years old. And that ministry leader just won the Republican nomination in the race for Colorado governor.
57:14We're going to discuss ahead.
57:19In our world lead, this story is like something out of a Final Destination movie. Those are great, by the way. But there's actually a happy ending in this one. So not exactly like Final Destination. This man is lucky to be alive. He was pulled headfirst and sucked halfway out of an airplane after the window he was sitting next to broke. This happened today on a Ryanair flight heading from Greece to Germany. CNN Aviation correspondent Pete Muntean joins us. Now, Pete, how did this unfold? You know, a terrifying situation to be sure, but not actually the first time that this has happened on a Boeing 737.
57:51In this case, a passenger sitting in the window seat was suddenly pulled partway out of the airplane when the window failed in flight, exposing him to the 400 mile per hour air rushing by outside. Thankfully, fellow passengers were able to pull him back inside. Greek media reports the man suffered neck injuries and friction burns. And new video also from Greek media shows inside the passenger cabin, the window completely missing with oxygen mass dangling overhead after the rapid decompression. One more silver lining here. This happened while the jet was climbing through about 16 ,000 feet, according to flight tracking data, not at its normal cruising altitude of around 35 ,000 feet.
58:27That means the air was still marginally breathable. The pressure difference between inside the passenger cabin and outside of the airplane was much lower than it would have been at cruise altitude, which likely made the decompression of the passenger cabin much less violent than it could have been. Now comes the investigation, and one of the biggest questions is why this window failed in the first place. Greek media reports say it may have been struck by debris from one of the airplane's engines, but investigators have not confirmed that yet. If engine debris was involved, investigators should be able to determine that relatively quickly by examining the damage to both the engine and the window, the forensic damage there.
59:02They'll also scrutinize the plane's maintenance history here because there's one more detail that investigators will likely look at. The same plane returned to Thessaloniki shortly after takeoff on a flight the night before to Sarajevo, Another sort of interesting piece of evidence here. Not totally clear if those things are connected, though. And we don't know yet why any of this happened? Well, the interesting thing here, and investigators will really look at this, is the comparison to a Southwest flight back in 2018 where a piece of engine debris, a fan blade, broke off and caused the passenger cabin to rapid decompress.
59:37A passenger sitting in seat about 8A was pulled out of the plane. She ultimately died from her injuries. The NTSB here in the U.S. is helping with this investigation. So, of course, that will be top of mind for them. Also on a Boeing 737. So we'll see if the inspections that were mandated essentially by the FAA after the NTSB's recommendation following that incident will come up again here. This could be a very interesting one. A lot of echoes to that previous incident of a few years ago. Yeah, that's just terrifying. All right, P. Monteen, thanks so much. King Charles, Queen Camilla welcoming Prince Harry, Meghan, the grandchildren in the UK today.
1:00:13Is this the start of a family truce? That's next.
1:00:21In our world leader, Royal Reunion, King Charles and Queen Camilla met with Prince Harry, Meghan, their two children today. The first family meeting in four years may be a step towards healing this rift that's lingered since Harry and Meghan stepped away. from royal life and relocated to the U.S. six years ago. CNN's Anna Stewart is in London and she has the details. Anna? Well, Jake, the king hasn't seen his youngest grandchildren in four years. We're told the king and queen hosted the Sussex family at Highgrove House in Gloucestershire. There was no heads up to the press regarding this meeting, no news cameras present, and it's unlikely we'll ever get a readout from the palace.
1:01:02This was a private reunion for a family known to have deep tensions, often played out on a global stage. The Prince and Princess of Wales and their children were absent from this meeting. The brothers remain estranged, according to British media reports. Now Prince Archie is seven years old. Princess Lilibet recently turned five, and this is the first time they see their grandfather since he became king. Prince Harry comes to the UK sporadically for events. This week he was here to mark the one-year countdown the Paralympic-style sporting competition, the Invictus Games, as well as other charity engagements.
1:01:38A major reason for Prince Harry not bringing his wife and children to the UK has centered around security. Since stepping back as working members of the royal family, the Sussex family no longer get a security detail paid for by the British taxpayer. Prince Harry believes the risks to their security are too high to rely on private security and has taken the Home Office to court over the issue, a case he actually lost. It's unclear what security enabled this visit. It may have been helped by the King and Queen hosting them outside of London. Speculation will be rife over that and whether the royal family rift has finally been healed.
1:02:14Jake. Thanks, Anna. I appreciate it. Demands for answers and accountability in Mississippi after the death, the suspicious death of a black teenager who went out with friends on the 4th of July and never came home. The family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, joins the lead next.
1:02:34International lead grief, speculation, racial tensions surrounding the mysterious death of 18-year-old Nolan Wells. Some of the last pictures of Wells show him with a group of friends on a boat heading to Horn Island off the coast of Mississippi on July 4th. All of the people on that boat except for Nolan came home that day. In moments, I'm going to talk to the family's attorney who says Nolan's cell phone and car keys were found with the people he went to the island with, not with him. But first, CNN's Ryan Young has more on the unanswered questions about this young man's death. We just want to know what happened and why our baby didn't come home.
1:03:16The family of Nolan Wells is pleading for answers tonight in a case rife with speculation, grief, and racial overtones. Nolan was, is the kindest soul. He never met a stranger. He loved everybody. Nolan is a person with a big heart. Details remain elusive about how the beloved 18-year-old college football player who died during a Fourth of July boat celebration on Horn Island off the coast of Mississippi. His friends returned to the dock without him, authorities said. The Jackson County Sheriff says there's an active investigation, but so far, no foul play is suspected. Still waiting on the truth to come out.
1:03:56The sheriff has not elaborated on how Wells became separated from his friends or why he didn't have his cell phone. Wells' family's attorneys speculate that Nolan's cell phone was returned with deleted text messages and that the teen's keys were also left behind with his friends. Anyone who's ever been around Nolan will tell you at social gatherings, he's taking videos, he's taking pictures. That's why we feel that things may have been deleted was because of the fact that there was nothing in either one of his accounts. We do not have the cell phone that they speak of and we've never had the cell phone, but it is to my understanding that we requested the cell phone for an extraction.
1:04:40Sheriff Ledbetter says one of the three friends who was on the boat with Wells was the first to report him missing around 11 p.m. that night. Mississippi investigators are exploring social media reports of an alleged altercation or argument that may have involved Wells, the only black man in his friend's group. We're going to work this investigation thoroughly and professionally. The Jackson County coroner told CNN there were no immediate signs of physical injury and that his body was found face down in the water close to the shoreline. The coroner has completed Wells' autopsy, but an official cause of death has yet to be determined as they are still waiting for the results of tests, including a toxicology report.
1:05:20Authorities also believe strong rip currents in the area could have potentially posed a risk. We're working towards the same goal as the family. We want a thorough investigation, and that's what we're going to continue to do until we arrive at the answers that the family deserves. Jake, I actually talked to the sheriff earlier this week, and one of the big questions is trying to find out what this timeline actually looks like. His investigators are still working on this. Of course, there's a lot of questions whether or not they've been able to talk to these friends and do a thorough investigation.
1:05:49And of course, there's a lot of chatter about that phone. But what you do hope is some of these witnesses and people who were there on this crowded island provide either some video accounts or some pictures or something that can lead to something more solid. I would love to be able to tell you here's the timeline of events and here's the timeline that separates the two groups. But that's not something that we can do right now because that's information that's been released so far. All right, Ryan Young, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Let's talk more about this troubling case with Benjamin Crump.
1:06:19He's the attorney representing Nolan Wells' family. Ben, good to see you as always. At today's press conference, the family said that Nolan's car keys and cell phone had been found not with Nolan, but with those who Nolan had been with on Horn Island. They ultimately got both items back. But why would those items not be with Nolan in the first place? You know, Jake Tapper, so many conflict and issues that caused the family concern. um obviously this conflict of what he who he left with the girl says he got back in the boat with the boys the boy said no he said that they he was going to stay with the girl and so they have a conflict both of them can't be telling the truth and if you then he said he was going to stay back on the island, then why would he leave his cell phone with them?
1:07:22Why would he leave his car keys with them? It just doesn't add up. Especially Jake Tapper, once you look at the video that's circulating on social media, but you hear Nolan in an argument saying, give me my freaking phone. What are you freaking doing? and is troubling because that's very relevant when you think about the fact that he ends up dead and they have his cell phone. Yeah. Where did that video come from? Do you know? And can you physically see Nolan or anyone else in that video?
1:08:01We think we've identified Nolan in the video. I know there are young people who were there who said that is Nolan arguing with the guys. And so what we're doing and the reason we were able to get the sound, we had people take the distortion out where they could key in on what is being said. And you said your office is starting to get videos and photos from Horn Island on July 4th, the day Nolan went missing. Can you tell us, give us any idea of how many images you're getting? Do any of them show Nolan with the group of friends that he had been with? There's a video that were there pictures that showed him there.
1:08:44And there's a video. What is very interesting is when his mother got the cell phone back, she and her sister observed that there were deleted Snapchat messages and some deleted text messages. that they said just didn't make sense because Nolan was always taking pictures of videos on Snapchat. And for there to be nothing there on Snapchat, they said it was just not what they find on his phone. And so that was troubling that people or somebody had deleted video. We don't know who. Can those messages be recovered? Is there any way to do that? you know that's what we're trying to do we all have some experts trying to recover the deleted messages to help figure this out because it's not adding up and you think about the fact that Nolan was a college football player he was a superb athlete in tip-top shape he could swim And so his family is not behind this accidental drowning that is being suggested because they're saying hello, all those people out there.
1:10:01And nobody saw him. Nobody tried to help him. It just doesn't add up. Obviously, somebody knows what happens. You also said you wanted to talk with the young man who had been with Nolan. Out of all the questions that this horrible incident prompts, what would you ask them? The biggest question is about the cell phone. If Nolan really told you he was going to stay on the island, which his family doesn't believe he would have done, why would I leave my cell phone with you? I mean, he's an 18 year old kid. And Jake, teenagers never want to be without their cell phones. Yep. I have a 16 year old and an 18 year old.
1:10:45And that is the God's honest truth. Ben Crump, thank you. Stay in touch with us about this important case. Thank you, Jake. Graham Plattner officially makes his exit from Maine's Senate race. Do Democrats running to replace him stand a chance against Republican Senator Susan Collins? Well, one of those Democrats joins me next.
1:11:10And our politics lead of Democrats are to take back the Senate. Every single battleground race this November is paramount. That is especially true of Maine, where Democrats are now jockeying to be the one to replace Graham Plattner as the Democratic nominee to take on Republican Senator Susan Collins in just a few months. Plattner announced Wednesday he will suspend his campaign following an allegation of rape. He claims the allegation is false. And then today he posted on social media a letter to the secretary of state saying that his name should be removed. Joining us now is one of the Democrats who wants to replace Plattner as the nominee, Dan Kleban.
1:11:47He's founder of the Maine Beer Company, and he ran in the primary, lost to Plattner. Dan, you ran for Senate last year before you dropped your bid, I should note, and back to Governor Janet Mills, which was interesting because she was behind in the polls. Why did you back her and not Graham Plattner, who I believe is more in line with your progressive ideology? Am I wrong? uh just one thank you for having me slight correction okay i dropped out in the fall right after our governor got in the race okay um oh that's why you did it okay yeah so um yes yeah well that's i got in look from day one from the moment i started discussing with my family whether or not i was going to run for senate the kind of the goal here was always to beat susan collins and once it became clear to me after graham Plattner got in the race, then I got in the race, and then the governor got in the race.
1:12:42I thought it was in the best interest of the party, beating Susan Collins to clear the field and let the governor and Graham Plattner have it out. Obviously, we're in a different situation now. But you endorsed Janet Mills. Why did you endorse her? I thought she was in the best position to beat Susan Collins. I had some serious concerns about Graham Plattner's character in the moment. I believe character in politics matters. I think we've seen on the other side of the aisle when you give up on character, you can go down some pretty dark and dangerous roads. And I want the Democratic Party. I think we should be a party that still thinks the character matters.
1:13:17So why do you think you're the best to take on Susan Collins? I believe I have a unique background. I am not a career politician. I've never held elective office. Instead, over the last two decades, I've worked on raising a family. I have twin 15-year-olds. I've spent the last two decades building a small business literally out of my garage. Me and my brother started a brewery, made beer company with a simple motto of do what's right. And for us, Jake, that meant from day one, we paid a living wage. We covered 100 percent of health insurance premiums. We provide for folks retirement and we give back to our community and the environment.
1:13:56And I think that we did that because I was laid off during the Great Recession. I was a victim of a rigged system and people are rightfully pissed that the system is rigged against them. I was collateral damage. But what I went out and did is I built something. I built a company to show that we can have an economy in Maine and in this country that not only rewards entrepreneurs and small business owners, but takes care of workers and our communities and our environment. I think we need more of that outside the box thinking in D.C. And frankly, Susan Collins has been there for 30 years. She's gone D.C.
1:14:26She's she is the establishment and she stopped looking out for hardworking Mainers. You've said that if elected, you would not vote for Chuck Schumer to be Senate Democratic leader. Why not? And who would you rather see as Democratic leader of the Senate? I mean, just like I think we need fresh faces in Congress, in the Senate and in the House of Representatives. And I represent that kind of fresh face as an outsider. I think we need new leadership. And so you're correct. I will not vote for Chuck Schumer as leader. Frankly, I don't know who else will throw their hat in the ring. But I want whoever it is to be someone who offers fresh ideas, because clearly what Congress has been doing over the last several decades just isn't working for hardworking Maine families.
1:15:10All right, Dan Cleavon, thank you so much. Appreciate your time. What's the name of your brewery? It's Maine Beer Company. If people want to learn more about the campaign, they can go to danformaine.com. Okay, danformaine.com and Maine Beer Company. That's the one I was interested in. My panel joins me now. Appreciate it. Ashley Etienne, we've heard from two Democratic hopefuls on the show. I don't it's it's early yet, but the decision is going to have to be made soon. Is there one candidate that you think has a better chance to win the nomination in this convention they're having and to beat Susan Collins?
1:15:44Well, I mean, I think the key is going to be they're going to have to select a candidate who can not only raise money, who can unify the progressive movement. So pull Plattner's voters to the table. But also, more importantly, I think this is what's getting lost is that person's going to have to be able to also peel off some of those independent voters. That's been Susan Collins's sweet spot cycle after cycle. She's been able to secure those votes. And I know we've been, you know, overemphasizing progressives in this particular race, but it's going to be those independent voters. So whoever the candidate is, is going to have to have that level of broad appeal, be able to raise money.
1:16:19But the other thing I would point out is this process is going to have to move quickly. Some of the lessons we learned from 2024 with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. You've got to move quickly and it cannot look like an inside job. Yeah. Emily, do you think that the Democrats have botched this so much that Susan Collins doesn't have to worry about this race anymore or the headwinds just so strong and she's she remains vulnerable? Well, any candidate will tell you that it's not over until it's over. I think that Susan Collins actually with him getting even with Graham Plattner getting out. Susan Collins has won, I think, the last election by eight points and she was already down.
1:16:55You never should count Susan Collins out. But I think that even though there are some concerns that she rightly should have because you don't know what's going to happen. I think that because of the dropping out and because of what you said in 2024, we saw what happened when you're not able to get a galvanize a campaign within, what, four or so months. That's what's something that Republicans are going to lean in on. And Susan Collins is going to be able to talk about her record delivering on behalf of the people of Maine. So, Ashley, when you look at the map of battlegrounds, the Democrats have 47 seats right now, including the two independents of caucus.
1:17:27So Democrats have to hold every seat that they have and flip for what are the four that you think are most likely to flip? You know, I'm putting some money on Texas. It's my home state. I think Tallarico is an incredible candidate. I think he's got some real talent that can be exploited to win. The question is, what is he going to do with black voters? Black voters there and across the country are suffering a huge amount of disillusionment. So I'm watching to see. He still doesn't have Jasmine Crockett in his tent, though, right? I mean, he does. He needs her support. He's making that clear. Yeah, he doesn't.
1:18:00But the key is she's already endorsed him. The second thing is she said that she's going to work on the down ballot races. So she's right in that if you work on the down ballot races and, you know, you can drive turnout that can support Tallarico, but he's got to do his own work to engage the black community. I think Ohio, North Carolina, I think those are really good peel-offs. But again, in each one of these states, black voters are going to make the difference. So the question comes back to whether or not these candidates have seriously engaged those. Only three. Okay, do I need one more? You need one more.
1:18:29You give me North Carolina, where Roy Cooper, the governor's running, former governor, you give me, you think that Sherrod Brown in Ohio can do it against the Husted and then you said Texas. What's the fourth? Where are we looking? Georgia? Is Georgia on the list? Georgia is already in there. But that's yeah, that's a that's a hold. Yeah. What about Maine? You're not saying you're not. Oh, no. I mean, there's Alaska. There's Iowa. Iowa. Big opportunity in Iowa. I think we're going to we're going to sweep in Iowa. I mean, it's it really is telling in terms of how the farmers have been incredibly hit hard by the tariffs, the policy.
1:19:07So I think I would add Iowa to that list, which which which Democratic what would same same question, like which seats that are held by Republicans right now are the most vulnerable. And do you think that there are some Republican pickups possible? I think that the only one that really is vulnerable at this point, I would say, Carolina. Republicans are even though we would love to win Georgia. Ossoff is already in that seat. Maine, Republicans are doing much better there. Ohio is a bit. North Carolina were the governors. No, no. North Carolina. He's saying North Carolina is the most vulnerable for Republicans.
1:19:39Yes. That is something that. Oh, definitely. That is something. Or Cooper is an exceptional. Do you think Democrats are. I mean, Democrats could lose potentially Michigan. We don't know. I mean, but. Yeah. And that's not something even though Republicans would like to put, you know, look for that seat, win that seat. I think the bigger energy is going to be around a place like Texas because polls show that Tallarico and Paxton are actually tied. And what Paxton has to do in this race, they're going to try to run a national race against Paxton. What he has to do is talk about the things that he did as attorney general.
1:20:11So that's the billion dollar lawsuits against Meta and Google. I wish you could talk about the fact that he was impeached. But that gives us a lot of room. And that is what Paxton is going to have to do because you're going to talk about that. Paxton needs to talk about his record because notice they're not talking about his record because he has a record to actually stand on as attorney general. So they have to deflect and talk about the impeachments and all of those other things. What he has to do is nail down each and every time they attack him on those type of things. He has to talk about how he has delivered on behalf of Texans.
1:20:43And he's done that over and over again. What's interesting in the state of Texas is I've never seen Republicans polling so low with Texas voters. You've got a situation where the president of the United States, Republican president, for the first time ever is underwater in the state of Texas. The governor is underwater. So Paxton's going to have a hard road to hoe in terms of convincing, you know, even his own base. We're fighting for independence. But I will say this, Jake, in the green room, I've heard Republicans say Kansas could be in open. Kansas could could flip. Nebraska could flip. So I think there's a lot of anxiety.
1:21:19There's a lot of anxiety among Republicans about what's possible, especially given how bad this economy is and how so many people are suffering. So ministry leader and former Marine Victor Marx won the Republican primary for governor, and he's going to square off with the state attorney general, Phil Weiser. I'm switching the question four folks, so get ready. In May, Marx sat down for an interview that has become quite notable. Let's run that to you. Do you think that you've killed people as an adult? Does it matter? Yeah, I'd say so. Why? Killing somebody is a pretty weighty thing. If someone's trying to kill you or you're in combat?
1:22:04It's still a weighty thing to take somebody else's life. I mean, it could be self-defense, it could be justified, but it's still a weighty thing. So I'm just asking you, how many people have you killed? Well, if I did, I wouldn't be telling a reporter. So that's the Republican nominee for governor. What do you think? Completely bizarre. Like, I don't understand what's going on with this guy. I mean, listen, you know, Republicans, Democrats have been running that state for over 10 years now. It's very blue. There's no possibility that this guy is going to win or is causing any problems. But the reality is this is a reflection of where the Republican Party is.
1:22:44Bizarre land. Oh, we can't. As if Plattner didn't just get out of the race. No, this guy is not going to win. The Republican hasn't won that seat in Colorado since 1998. All right. Thanks to both of you. Appreciate it. Yet another White House renovation. President Trump showing off some of the results. That's next.
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