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Podcast Notes: The Lead with Jake Tapper
Episode Summary Title: New Imagery Suggests U.S. Responsible For Iran School Strike Description: The episode discusses the ongoing U.S.-Israeli war against Iran, the increasing casualties, and the controversy surrounding the White House's portrayal of military actions. It also includes discussions on allegations against Trump regarding sex abuse, as well as the DOJ's release of FBI interviews.
Key Discussions
- Current Conflict in Iran
- Casualties: The war has resulted in at least 1,200 Iranian deaths, including children, 6 U.S. service members, and 10 Israeli civilians.
- White House's Approach: Criticism of the White House's casual portrayal of the conflict through promotional videos, which include video game clips, has been raised.
- Criticism Highlights:
- Videos trivialize the seriousness of war.
- Use of pop culture clips from fictional characters often portrayed as villains.
- Media Coverage and Accountability
- CNN Reporting from Iran: CNN is the first U.S. network to report from Iran since the war began. Journalists face risks to provide accurate reporting.
- Government Response: The Trump administration's attempts to discredit CNN's reporting as "pro-Iran propaganda" were discussed, including social media comments from government officials.
- Civilian Impact of Military Actions
- School Strike Incident: Reports suggest U.S. involvement in a strike that hit an elementary school in Iran, resulting in significant casualties.
- Satellite Imagery Analysis: Evidence suggests precision strikes rather than indiscriminate bombing.
- Investigation ongoing as the Pentagon refrains from making definitive statements.
- Political Reactions and Consequences
- Concerns Over Russian Intelligence: Reports indicate that Russia is aiding Iran by providing intelligence on U.S. troop movements.
- Responses from Politicians: Republican Congressman Mike Lawler emphasizes the need for accountability and severe consequences for Russia.
- Domestic Issues: Trump and FBI Interviews
- Allegations Against Trump: The DOJ's release of FBI memos related to sexual abuse allegations against Trump is discussed.
- Media's Role: The media's coverage of these allegations and the public's response were analyzed.
- Economic Impact of War
- Gas Prices: The episode touches on the rising gas prices linked to the conflict in Iran, predicting further increases due to geopolitical tensions.
- Perspective from Veterans
- Tribute to Fallen Soldiers: A segment honors the six U.S. service members killed in the conflict, discussing their backgrounds and the implications of their deaths.
Key Takeaways
- The episode highlights the gravity of military conflict, the potential disconnect between political messaging and the realities on the ground, and the impact of media portrayal on public perception.
- The importance of responsible communication from government officials during wartime is emphasized.
- Ongoing investigations into military actions and their consequences on civilians were stressed, pointing to the need for accountability.
- The rising economic consequences of military engagements, particularly in terms of gas prices, reflects the interconnectedness of foreign policy and domestic economic conditions.
Important Quotes
- "The consequences of war are final." - Jake Tapper on the serious nature of military engagements.
- "War isn't a video game." - Commentary on the trivialization of military actions by creating promotional videos.
Next Episode Teaser The next episode will likely continue exploring the implications of the ongoing conflict in Iran, government responses to media coverage, and the impact on American citizens and service members.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Consequences of War
0:45 to 4:35
Discussion on the severe implications of the ongoing war and media portrayal.
“that those factors make the decision to go to war, the most consequential decision that any president can make.”
CNN's Reporting from Inside Iran
4:35 to 9:07
Insights from CNN journalists reporting on the ground in Iran.
“But the Trump administration apparently finds they're reporting something to be attacked.”
U.S. Military Investigations
9:07 to 10:09
Details on the ongoing investigations into U.S. airstrikes and their impacts.
“The Israeli military say they weren't operating in the area.”
Iran's Response to Airstrikes
10:09 to 12:36
Examination of Iran's societal response to U.S. and Israeli military actions.
“And today they reported from a rally where thousands of Iranian hardliners showed up to mourn the killing of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and a hospital damaged by an airstrike.”
Intelligence Sharing and Security Concerns
12:36 to 14:00
Discussion on the implications of Russia sharing intelligence about U.S. forces.
“CNN is learning extremely concerning news about the safety of American service members in the Middle East right now.”
The Dismantling of Iran's Military Capabilities
14:00 to 18:40
Discussion on the consequences for Russia and Iran's military capabilities amidst the conflict.
“And you are seeing the dismantling of it before our very eyes.”
Remembering the Fallen Soldiers
20:44 to 24:24
Retired Colonel Joseph Suyet discusses the loss of U.S. service members in the Iran conflict.
“In our world lead, President Trump is expected to attend the dignified transfer ceremony tomorrow of the six U.S.”
Epstein Files and Accountability
24:24 to 28:00
Discussion on the release of documents related to President Trump's involvement in the Epstein case.
“Justice Department has released documents involving President Trump that had been missing, suspiciously rather, from the Epstein files.”
Reflecting on the State of the Union
28:00 to 29:00
Annie Farmer discusses her experience at the State of the Union and the ongoing investigation.
“You were invited to the State of the Union address last week.”
Analyzing Rising Gas Prices
29:48 to 33:48
Discussion on the implications of rising gas prices in the U.S. amid economic changes.
“A busy day for our money lead as markets closed last hour.”
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The Issue of Child Marriage
33:48 to 41:04
Sheryl Sandberg and First Lady Fatima Maad-Biu discuss the urgent issue of child marriage.
“The relationship between the FBI director and the president has always been complicated.”
Trump's Stance on Iran
41:04 to 42:04
Analysis of President Trump's statements regarding Iran's military and leadership.
“I had some tense moments when rockets near the Israeli border with Lebanon flew over the heads of a CNN crew.”
Trump's Views on Iran's Leadership
42:04 to 43:12
Discussion on Trump's statements about Iran's leadership and U.S. interests.
“and he's looking for new leadership that will treat the U.S., Israel, and Middle East allies well.”
Conflict Escalation at Israel-Lebanon Border
43:12 to 44:37
Jeremy Diamond reports on the escalating skirmishes and Israeli retaliations.
“But I can tell you that that front is certainly intensifying right now.”
U.S. Embassy Threats in Iraq
44:37 to 45:58
Clarissa Ward discusses warnings about threats to U.S. contractors in Iraq.
“In Lebanon, we know that the Israeli military carried out at least 115 strikes, according to the IDF.”
Civilian Safety Concerns in Erbil
45:58 to 47:25
Concerns raised about civilian infrastructures in Erbil amid rising threats.
“They issued a warning saying that hotels in Iraqi Kurdistan, where we are, where foreigners are staying, they believed may be under threat from strikes from Iran-backed militias inside Iraq.”
Kareem Sojapur Analyzes Trump's Iran Policy
47:25 to 48:43
Kareem Sojapur provides insights on Trump's approach to Iran and public opinion.
“Clarissa Ward in Erbil, Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv, thank you so much.”
Iran's Strategy Against U.S. Forces
48:43 to 50:21
Discussion on how Iran aims to impact U.S. public opinion and military strategy.
“Although regime change is not one of the goals, it would be a nice fringe benefit is how the Trump administration is casting it.”
CIA and Kurdish Groups in Iran
50:21 to 51:25
Exploring the complexities of U.S. support for Kurdish groups in Iran.
“And there's several ways in which they can do that.”
Leadership Dynamics in Iranian Opposition
51:25 to 52:42
Discussing potential leaders of a united Iranian opposition against the regime.
“They constitute about 10 % of Iran's population.”
Russia's Role in Supporting Iran
52:42 to 54:28
Examining how Russia may aid Iran by sharing intelligence on U.S. troop movements.
“Is Russia helping Iran keep tabs on the movements of U.S.”
Impact of Russian Intelligence on U.S. Military
54:28 to 55:42
Discussion on the implications of intelligence sharing between Russia and Iran.
“Speaking of casualties and damage, sources with U.S.”
Concerns Over U.S. Munitions Supply
55:42 to 56:00
General Votel talks about the logistics and supply concerns in the ongoing conflict.
“After meeting with top defense contractors at the White House earlier today, President Trump said that they agreed to quadruple production.”
Military Supply Concerns in Iran War
56:00 to 57:29
Explore the logistics and military supply concerns in the ongoing Iran conflict.
“Regardless, however, we have also increased orders at these levels, unquote.”
ICE Detains Journalist: A Case Study
57:30 to 1:02:34
Delve into the issues surrounding the detention of journalist Estefany Rodriguez by ICE.
“Confusion and many questions after ICE reportedly detained a journalist in Tennessee.”
Congressional Reactions to DHS Changes
1:02:35 to 1:09:53
Hear about congressional perspectives on changes in the Department of Homeland Security.
“I talked to her for a while while she was still in Nashville, but I've not been able to speak with her since she was moved.”
Gonzalez's Decision Not to Run Again
1:10:00 to 1:10:11
Learn about Texas Congressman Tony Gonzalez's decision to end his re-election bid amidst an ethics investigation.
Brandon Herrera and Controversial Views
1:10:11 to 1:10:43
Explore Brandon Herrera's controversial comments and past regarding firearms and extremist views.
“Gonzalez still faces a House ethics investigation after admitting to a sexual relationship with a staffer who later died by suicide.”
Discussion on Herrera's Nazi References
1:10:43 to 1:11:42
The panel discusses Brandon Herrera's problematic references to Nazi history and implications for the Republican party.
“By the way, here's Herrera talking about owning a vintage copy of Mein Kampf on a podcast in 2024.”
Political Landscape of Texas 23
1:11:42 to 1:13:11
Analyze the shifting political dynamics in Texas 23 following Gonzalez's withdrawal from the race.
“Surely the Republican Party can do better than this.”
Obama's Critique of Political Division
1:13:11 to 1:14:14
Listen to President Obama's remarks on political division and hear the panel's reaction.
“But if you look at the numbers here, if it's an R plus 7 district in the primary, 53 ,000 Democrats voted and 51 ,000 Republicans voted.”
Kevin Madden's Take on Political Rhetoric
1:14:14 to 1:16:40
Kevin Madden discusses the evolution of political rhetoric and the challenges faced by current candidates.
“Kevin, you have an interesting perspective here on hearing this because you used to work for Mitt Romney, who at the time Democrats demonized as a cruel robber baron.”
Veteran Housing Promises and Delays
1:16:40 to 1:20:20
Examine President Trump's promises to veterans and the ongoing issues surrounding their housing.
“Yeah, look, I think Cornyn's been a very good senator.”
Challenges Faced by Homeless Veterans
1:20:20 to 1:21:21
Hear personal stories from veterans facing homelessness and lack of support.
“just for a few months before moving into a permanent home.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Jake Tapper:Class dismissed. This class again? Don't sit in courses you've already taken. University of Phoenix accepts eligible transfer credits and has a scholarship for transfer students. Finish your degree faster. I'm Jake Tapper. Welcome to The Lead. Let's turn now to our world lead as we near the end of the first full week of the U.S.-Israeli war against Iran, a war that has already seen the deaths of six U.S. service members, 10 Israeli civilians and at least 1 ,200 Iranians, including dozens of grade school girls. We're going to have more on that shortly. Rather than entirely, focusedly treating this war and the resulting casualties and the mounting economic costs from it with the seriousness that a war deserves, rather than acknowledging that those factors make the decision to go to war, the most consequential decision that any president can make.
0:59Well, the last day or so, the White House has been, in at least one way, treating going to war like a game, frivolously, releasing what we will charitably call hype videos about their war. Here's the latest video from the White House released just a few hours ago. Ah, shit. Here we go again.
1:27Jake Tapper:Ah, shit. Here we go again.
1:35Ah, shit. Are you not amused? That's one of the Grand Theft Auto video games spliced in between footages of U.S. strikes. In a video posted on Wednesday, the White House used a clip from Call of Duty video game along with more bombing footage.
2:07White House Communications Director Stephen Chung responded to the criticism over this bonkers video, writing on X or Twitter, quote, W's in the chat, boys. For those of you unfamiliar, that's gamer slang for celebrating a win, a W. Now, the White House followed that up last night with a video putting together clips from Hollywood movies and TV shows such as Iron Man, Star Wars, Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.
2:34Jake Tapper:Wake up, Daddy-some. Welcome home, sir. Strength and honor. Strength and honor. What will you do without freedom? Mavericks in battle.
2:46You can't conceive! It is perhaps worth noting that many of the folks, the characters the White House is lionizing in those clips are actually bad guys. in those works of fiction. Walter White from Breaking Bad. He's a sick drug dealer who, spoiler alert, poisoned a child and killed innocent people. Saul Goodman from Better Call Saul, twisted criminal enabler who blows up his entire life and gets at least one innocent person killed. Kylo Ren from the Star Wars movies. He embraced the dark side, guys. Spoiler alert, he killed his dad, the beloved character Han Solo. Does the White House even care who the good guys and bad guys are these days.
3:27Moments ago, actor Ben Stiller posted this on X, quote, hey White House, please remove the tropic thunderclip. We never gave you permission and have no interest in being a part of your propaganda machine. As one veteran put it on X about this attitude, quote, sorry to be Debbie Downer, war isn't a video game. The consequences of war are final. I wish we didn't treat it with such a cavalier approach. Of course, part of acknowledging the seriousness of taking a country into war is recognizing the immense importance of telling the truth to the American people. But instead, we are seeing this administration lob baseless smears and accusations against anyone who dares to question them.
4:07CNN's Fred Pleikin, along with his photo journalist Claudio Otto, are bravely reporting from inside Iran. We're going to hear from them soon about how they're able to report from there. CNN is the first U.S. network reporting from inside the country since the start of the war. These are two incredibly courageous, honest journalists taking a big risk to bring the world reports from inside a war zone to show the world what it looks like. They're not advocating for the Iranian government. They're just showing the world what Iran looks like. But the Trump administration apparently finds they're reporting something to be attacked.
4:40Dylan Johnson, who's, I suppose, an assistant secretary for the State Department, he wrote on X, quote, CNN appears to now be doing straight up pro-Iran regime propaganda because someone gave this guy a coffee let's play the clip that the state department is using to make this claim of pro-iran propaganda taking a quick break for a coffee along the way we've been driving for
5:03Jake Tapper:several hours there's a couple of things that we've noticed number one is that first of all all the shops are open all the shops are really well stocked even with with fresh things like for instance fruits and vegetables coffee obviously also available as well and then also the gas stations, there's no long lines as gas stations, fuel seems readily available, and you just don't see any sort of degree of panic anywhere. We've seen this movie before, haven't we? As long as we're in a film motif. A reporter says what they're seeing on the ground, noting the availability of goods in this one, journalism, and accused of being pro-Iran, pro-enemy for just bringing journalism to the public.
5:47We We also saw this week White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt lash out at CNN's Caroline Collins, Caitlin Collins, rather, for asking about a rather notable statement from the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, about the deaths of six American service members that the media was covering. Hegseth said, quote, when a few drones get through or tragic things happen, it's front page news. I get it. The press only wants to make the president look bad, unquote. Of course, the media for decades has covered prominently the death of service members in war. Caitlin asked the White House about it.
6:23Here's some of that exchange.
6:26Jake Tapper:We expect you to cover that as you should, Caitlin. But you and your network know that you take every single thing this administration says and tries to use it to make the president look bad. That is an objectable fact. I don't think covering troop deaths is trying to make the president look bad. If you're trying to... attacking the press for asking questions about why the U.S. is involved in a war in the Middle East. We've seen it before. Trump, by the way, got elected in 2016 in no small part by telling voters that he'd always been a critic of the Iraq War, which is questionable. But in any case, we did see more than 20 years ago what it's like when too many people in the news media cower in the face of White House intimidation and refrain from asking questions?
7:12How'd that work out? One of those questions that demands answers, of course, is why the Trump administration is easing sanctions on Russia at the same time that sources with U.S. intelligence tell CNN that Russia is providing Iran with information about the locations and movements of our service members and of our assets in the region. We're going to have more on that in a few minutes. The decision to go to war is the most serious one that any president can make. Lives of innocents are already being lost. Lives of service members are being lost. Even if you think the mission is completely righteous, it is gravely serious business.
7:48It is not a video game. And on the deadliest scenes of war, CNN is among news outlets reporting that it may have been a strike from the United States that hit an elementary school in southern Iran, killing some 168 grade school students and 14 teachers. The investigation is ongoing. CNN's Isabel Young has an early CNN analysis. Nearly a week after a strike killed scores of students in Iran's Minab, it seems more and more likely that the U.S. was responsible. A new satellite image shows an Iranian Revolutionary Guards base and an elementary school in southern Iran. Here you see craters in several of the buildings, including the school.
8:31They were hit in their exact centres, suggesting precision strikes, experts say. A wall separates the school and the base. Satellite images from December show dozens of people in what appears to be a handball court at the school. Reuters now reports that US military investigators believe US forces were responsible, though they haven't yet reached a final conclusion. It paints a picture of multiple simultaneous or near-simultaneous strikes. And it looks like these were delivered with explosive munitions, probably air delivered.
8:59Jake Tapper:I think the most likely scenario in this case is that it's a US or Israeli airstrike gone a lot right. It's probably a targeting failure somewhere in the targeting cycle, an intelligence failure. The Israeli military say they weren't operating in the area. To date, we've hit over 2 ,000 targets. American military officials say they carried out extensive strikes in this area and released this map showing strikes in southern Iran. The base and the school in Minab are located here. We, of course, never target civilian targets, but we're taking a look at investigating that. The damage we've seen to the building is quite significant.
9:31It's unlikely it was something like an air defence missile fired by the Iranians, for example. When we try to assess who is responsible for airstrikes, we typically try to examine the weaponry fragments left behind. But in this instance, there's an internet blackout in Iran. It's been really difficult to obtain that. And so this investigation is still not conclusive. Isabel Young, CNN, London. And our thanks to Isabel Young for that report. In response to CNN's findings, the U.S. Pentagon spokesman said it would be inappropriate to comment given the incident is under investigation. As Isabel noted, with communication in the region, so spotty, learning what's going on inside Iran is not easy.
10:07But with government permission, CNN senior international correspondent Fred Pleitkin is in Iran, along with producer Claudia Otto, sharing what they can. And today they reported from a rally where thousands of Iranian hardliners showed up to mourn the killing of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and a hospital damaged by an airstrike. Here's Fred's report.
10:30Jake Tapper:Iran's leadership has gathered thousands of people here to Tehran after Friday prayers to voice their anger about the U.S. and Israel's bombing campaign across the country. But of course, also to mourn Iran's late Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. And thousands of people have indeed turned out here. At the same time, we have to keep in mind, this is just a small snapshot of Iran's society. And the people who come to Friday prayers here in Tehran usually are political, conservatives and religious hardliners. At the same time, it does show that the government here is still able to mobilize masses.
11:06We believe that if we are killed, we are martyrs, meaning that whether we stand by the revolution or become martyrs, both are a victory for us. The blood of our martyr leader has been shed, but his path continues. With these killings and these martyrdoms, they will not achieve greatness, and they will not be able to take even the smallest piece of our land.
11:30Jake Tapper:All this is happening, of course, as the U.S. and Israel continue their massive bombing campaign, not just here in Tehran in the vicinity, but indeed in the entire country. The U.S. says that it's hitting military positions and trying to hit Iran's religious and also political leadership, while the Iranians say at this point in time they are not willing to negotiate with the United States. And they also say that they have a missile supply and drones to carry on military operations for an extended period of time. So this is the Gandhi Hospital here in Tehran, which was pretty badly damaged after an airstrike.
12:06Jake Tapper:It seems as though a different building was struck in the vicinity, but then this building also was damaged very badly. I spoke to the head of Iran's Red Crescent about this. Here's what he had to say. Can you imagine if you were hospitalized in one of the wards here while it was attacked? How would you feel? The people on the ground who feel these airstrikes, who hear these airstrikes, hear the jets overhead, for them it's a really, really difficult time to go through. Fred Pleitkin, thank you so much for that report. CNN is learning extremely concerning news about the safety of American service members in the Middle East right now.
12:41Sources with U.S. intelligence reporting that tell CNN that Russia is providing Iran with intelligence about the locations and movements of American troops, ships and aircraft. Fox asked White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt about this earlier today. Here's what she had to say.
12:59Jake Tapper:Whether or not this happened, And frankly, it does not really matter because President Trump and the United States military are absolutely decimating the rogue Iranian terrorist regime. It does matter. Trump White House. Iranian missiles killed six American service members in this war. They're trying to kill many, many more. Let's bring in Republican Congressman Mike Lawler of New York. He serves in the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman, what's your response to Caroline Levitt saying that it doesn't matter if the Russians are sharing intelligence about the whereabouts of U.S. service members and assets in Iran fighting this war?
13:36Well, number one, to her point about decimating Iran's military and their ballistic missiles capabilities, that is happening. However, ensuring the safety and well-being of our troops is paramount. And if Russia is, in fact, doing that, there needs to be severe consequences. From my vantage point, this unholy alliance that has permeated the global stage between China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Cuba, this has been going on for far too long. And you are seeing the dismantling of it before our very eyes. What kind of consequences? And I think Russia, I'm sorry? What kind of consequences do you think Russia should face?
14:25Well, from my standpoint, I've been advocating for severe crippling sanctions against Russia for years. You know, during the Biden administration, the secondary sanctions should have been put in place. I've been advocating for that during the Trump administration. I think, you know, the Europeans in particular need to stop purchasing Russian gas. I understand in this immediate moment, there is efforts to ease some of the sanctions from the standpoint of India and others purchasing Russian gas to try and stabilize the global oil trade. But the fact is, Russia and Iran have been in cahoots for far too long.
15:05Russia has relied on Iranian drones in their war against Ukraine. And so from my vantage point, as you see what is happening, we are decimating Iran's military capabilities. You've seen very quickly in seven days. Their ability to fire off ballistic missiles has declined precipitously. We are going after their production sites. We are going after their launchers. Their naval fleet has been obliterated. We need to continue that pressure. President Trump is right to go after that and to ensure, ultimately, that not only do they not have the military capabilities moving forward, but they can never again pursue a nuclear weapon.
15:48So it sounds as though you agree with Caroline Leavitt when she was asked to clarify what she said. And she said, it clearly is not making a difference with respect to the military operations in Iran because we are completely decimating them. So as she said, I wouldn't put Jake, I wouldn't put words in my mouth. What I said was she is right that we are decimating their capabilities. I also said if Russia is, in fact, providing intelligence to Iran, which one would surmise they are, given the relationship and their reliance on Iranian drones during their war in Ukraine, if, in fact, that is happening, there does need to be consequences to that.
16:30And I fundamentally believe Vladimir Putin is a vile dictator and thug and needs to be held to account for his war crimes that he has committed in Ukraine. I've been very clear on that for years. As you mentioned, the U.S. eased its sanctions on Russian oil. Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said the U.S. is temporarily allowing India to buy Russian oil. Do you have issues with that? I mean, don't you think that Russia should not be allowed to profit right now as it is helping the Iranians target America? The biggest issue right now with the oil trade is obviously the Straits of Hormuz and getting the flow of oil out, which is part of the reason we are going after the naval fleet of Iran.
17:21I have been one of the biggest proponents of sanctioning both Iranian petroleum. It's why I passed the SHIP Act with Secretary Rubio when he was in the Senate. It's why when we come back from break Next week, I will have another Iran sanctions bill coming forward with respect to gas and oil. And I fundamentally believe Russia's oil needs to be sanctioned as well. Obviously, in the immediacy, you're dealing with volatility in the oil markets. I think the objective is to try and stabilize that in the short term. But from my vantage point, again, when you look at what is happening around the globe, When you look at the illicit activity between China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea, this is what is being dismantled before our very eyes.
18:13And I think Iran is in a very, very weakened state in the moment. Can you just give me like a yes or no answer? Do you support the temporary easing of sanctions on Russia selling oil to India? I do not, but I understand why the administration is doing it in this immediate moment, given the situation in the Straits of Hormuz. Got it. Republican Congressman Mike Lawler of New York, thank you so much. We always appreciate it. Up next, I'm going to talk to a retired colonel who knew four of the six U.S. service members killed in the early hours of this conflict. And later in the show, the impact of this war on your wallet, at least right now, from retirement accounts wrapped up on Wall Street to the price hikes at the gas pump.
18:55Will relief come anytime soon?
19:06Hey, everyone. It's Audie. And I've got another special episode of The Assignment for you.
19:11Jake Tapper:I was at the podcast festival known as On Air Fest that was in Brooklyn just last week. And for this, I knew I wanted to bring along a friend because we're going to talk about work spouses. And mine for a very long time was Ari Shapiro of NPR. are. You heard us on the radio being very serious. And during the eight minute segment, when our mics are off, we would cackle about the latest thing that we had found on Reddit or on Instagram or whatever was bubbling up in the culture. And we never really got to laugh like that with each other and finish each other's sentences on the radio in quite that way.
19:47No. Listen to The Assignment with me, Audie Cornish, streaming now on your favorite podcast app. Hey, I'm Anderson Cooper. On my podcast, All There Is, we explore grief and loss in all its complexities. You'll hear deeply moving and honest discussions with people who have faced and are living with life-altering losses. Gavin Newsom is the governor of California. He's written a book about his life called Young Man in a Hurry, a memoir of discovery. There's this thing, just this notion of this letting go and just accepting things I can't control, just accepting them. things I can, taking account and responsibility to be better and more.
20:27Do you feel grief? I feel loss. I feel regret. I feel inadequate. I guess human.
20:36Jake Tapper:Talking grief, building community. That's what the podcast is all about. This is all there is. Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts.
20:48In our world lead, President Trump is expected to attend the dignified transfer ceremony tomorrow of the six U.S. service members killed Sunday in Kuwait. The Iranian strike on a makeshift U.S. operations center were killed. Their names, Captain Cody Cork, Sergeant First Class Noah Tegens, Sergeant First Class Nicole Amour, and Sergeant Declan Cody. We've covered them and their losses already. The Pentagon later released the identity of the two other soldiers killed. 45-year-old Major Jeffrey O 'Brien of Waukee, Iowa, and 54-year-old Chief Warrant Officer 3 Robert Marzan of Sacramento, California.
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21:23Joining us now is retired U.S. Army Colonel Joseph Suyet. He served as Chief of Staff to the 103rd Sustainment Command with many of those six service members. Colonel Suyet, I'm so sorry for the loss of these soldiers. Your time with some of them dates back years. Let's just start with how are you doing? This is a horrible loss.
21:47Well, it is horrible. And we've served with these soldiers since 2019, or at least four of the six. So it was very devastating to hear about the loss of their lives. What do you want the world to know about your fallen brothers and sister?
22:07Well, I think one thing that's important is that four of these six soldiers that I personally knew deployed with us in 2019 and 2020. And that would be Sergeant Teesans, Sergeant Amour, Chief Marzan, and then Captain O 'Brien. And it's not often that you see this many soldiers that served in a combat area, or in this case, Kuwait, but that would actually go on a deployment, which is obviously difficult on the soldiers and their families, and then decide to actually come back to another deployment five or six years later. And they did. And in my 33 years, I've never seen this many soldiers do that.
22:50So it really goes to speak to the camaraderie of the unit. We had a very tight knit unit at that time. And it's really sad because I knew fairly well for these six soldiers. And these are these are Iowa National Guard's troops, meaning that they are not full-time professional soldiers, right?
23:13Well, they're not full-time soldiers, but they're Army Reserve, not National Guard. Okay, sorry. There is a slight difference, but yes, that's okay. You've got the point correct. You're right, which makes that point all the more important. Yeah, I mean, it means that they give up weekends, they give up weeks to train and to do these missions, but they have lives back in Nebraska, Minnesota, Iowa, et cetera. Yeah, that's very true. And in preparation for these deployments, it's very often that soldiers and units have to prepare for months on end and get called not only for the one year that they're on active duty, but for three to six months in preparation for that and then several months typically afterwards.
24:00So, you know, you've got these soldiers that have civilian lives and it's not that easy to separate from, certainly from your family, but from your civilian life as well. Colonel Joe Suya, thank you so much. May the memory of these fallen service members be a blessing. Thank you for spending time with us to talk about them. Thank you for having me, Jake. Coming up, the documents that mentioned President Trump once missing from the Epstein files now back.
24:36In our Law and Justice League, the U.S. Justice Department has released documents involving President Trump that had been missing, suspiciously rather, from the Epstein files. They include FBI memos from three interviews with a woman who alleges she was sexually assaulted by then-citizen Trump when she was a teenager. The president has consistently denied any wrongdoing. We should note that the inclusion of interviews in the Epstein files is not necessarily evidence of wrongdoing. It is an interview. White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt slammed the release of the documents, saying in part, quote, the total baselessness of these accusations is also supported by the obvious fact that Joe Biden's Department of Justice knew about them for four years and did nothing with them because they knew President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong, unquote.
25:24As the Trump White House continues to shrug off the scandal, Congress is pushing ahead, voting to subpoena Attorney General Pam Bondi. The subpoena to testify stems from the House Oversight Committee's investigation into the Epstein files and the federal government's handling of the case against Epstein and his sex trafficking accomplices. My next guest is a survivor of Epstein. Annie Farmer joins us now. Annie, let me start off by saying I know asking you about the worst experience of your life is not fun for you, not really for me either. How are you? Oh, I appreciate that, Jake. I'm doing all right.
26:03I'm glad to be with you. What questions might you have for Attorney General Pam Bondi?
26:11Oh, I have a lot. You know, I was actually really happy to see that Pam Bondi has, you know, there was people on both sides of the aisle came together to say that she needs to testify between the House Oversight Committee because I think, you know, when she was in front of the Judiciary Committee, she refused to even acknowledge survivors. The questions that were asked, there was a lot of, you know, deflection and avoidance. And so really, you know, we still don't understand how this release of information was so terribly botched when again and again we see powerful people being protected and information about survivors not being properly redacted.
26:56So I think we have a lot of questions for her. I'll remind our viewers that when Attorney General Bondi was asked about a matter relating to the Epstein files, she started talking about how the Dow had reached 50 ,000, and that's what members of Congress should have been focused on. Over the last few weeks, we have seen across the pond in foreign countries investigations start, foreign leaders get in trouble, even a former member of the Royals. There has been some accountability for actions related to the case. What does it tell you that the U.S. government is not, at least as far as we know, doing so in terms of investigations and accountability?
27:36I think a lot of people are looking at this and wondering why. What is it that's different that's happening here? I mean, we know this was a global conspiracy. So, I mean, a global, there were people all over the world involved in this operation. And so I'm glad to see that people are doing things overseas. It makes me hopeful that real investigations could happen. But I do feel frustrated that that's not happening here. I think we need more of that. You were invited to the State of the Union address last week. Tell us about that experience. Yeah, I was able to go with Congressman Robert Garcia, and he's been a real champion for this investigation in the House Oversight Committee, so I was glad to be there with him.
28:21It was actually pretty challenging, though, to sit through Trump's speech when it seemed like he just had a different vision of the country that he was presenting, a different vision of events. You know, he, of course, did not acknowledge any of the survivors that were present, and we weren't really expecting him to. But we were there to remind him that we're not going away, that, you know, the United States, I think, is very much still interested in getting to the bottom of this and wants answers. Annie Farmer, thank you so much, and best to your sister as well. We appreciate your coming here today, and no, it's not easy.
29:01Oh, thank you so much for having me. Still had the stunner many of you are noticing at the gas pump. Gas prices are the highest they've been in nearly a year. We're going to talk to the folks at GasBuddy about what they're seeing next.
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30:04economy actually lost jobs, 92 ,000 jobs last month. And unemployment rose to 4.4 percent. Those losses swept across most industries with deep declines in health care, leisure and hospitality, and construction. In addition, the war in Iran is causing gas prices here in the U.S. to spike to the highest level in nearly a year, according to AAA. way. Gas is up 7 cents a gallon just today. The average price is$3.32 a gallon, a 34 cent per gallon increase since one week ago. Let's bring in the head of Petroleum Analysis for Gas Buddy, Patrick DeHaan. Patrick, this is the highest we've seen gas prices in 11 months.
30:44Before the war, the Trump administration bragged about, understandably, how gas prices were much, much lower than they had been. But do you think we're going to see the prices get even higher in the coming days? What are you keeping an eye out for?
30:59Jake Tapper:Yeah, Jake, that's extremely likely. In fact, looking at live gas buddy data now, we're ticked up to 338, excuse me, to 339 now in the last just moments. So we continue to go up and this is a pretty expeditious pace. In fact, looking at the top 10 single day increases, we're now seeing two days in the last three days that are on the top 10 single day largest increases that we've ever witnessed. So, you know, you harken back to 2022, Russia's invasion of Ukraine. And the pace of increases is certainly very brisk with Americans in many states seeing gas prices up 40, 50, even some metro areas up 60 and 70 cents a gallon.
31:39Jake Tapper:How high do you think they're gonna go? Well, I think based on where we are now, the national average could rise another 15 to 25 cents. I would hope that it would stop short of$4 a gallon. But the real question is, when will vessels start transiting the Strait of Hormuz? That's really what oil prices and markets are looking most closely at, is when will the resumption of 20 million barrels of oil per day continue through this trade? Until then, gas prices likely continue advancing. Oil prices will likely keep climbing until that oil can move again. This is the highest gas prices have been through both Trump administrations.
32:15Here is how the president typically talks about gas prices. Take a listen.
32:21Jake Tapper:Today, right here in Corpus Christi, the price of gasoline is down to just less than actually now$2.30. I was in a beautiful place called Iowa two weeks ago,$1.85 a gallon for gasoline. Gasoline is less than$2 in many places a gallon, which nobody expected to see, but I did. Obviously, that was before the war. This week, the president told Reuters, quote, I don't have any concern about it, meaning the gas prices. They'll drop very rapidly when this is over. And if they rise, they rise. But this is far more important than having gasoline prices go up a little bit, unquote. What do you make of President Trump's assessment of the prices in the pump and kind of the dismissal of the importance of it?
33:06Jake Tapper:Well, Jake, I think there's nothing more visible than gas prices, whether you need it or not. We see it on every street corner on our way to school and work. And it's a little frustrating for the president to maybe illustrate that gas prices aren't going up when many of us have seen gas prices going up every single day or even every single time we drive by the gas station. We've seen gas stations going up three, four, five times in a single day. So, I mean, it's a very rapid pace here, as I described. And, you know, to your point now, we continue to see gas prices going back further and further.
33:38Jake Tapper:That is, gas prices now at their highest since August of 2024. and I expect that it might get worse over the weekend before it gets any better. Patrick DeHaan, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. She was a world-famous top executive at Facebook, and years later, Sheryl Sandberg is using her platform to get the word out about an issue she feels the whole world needs to be aware of, and she's going to be joined by a first lady affected by it. That's next.
34:08The relationship between the FBI director and the president has always been complicated. Unravel the complex dynamic in the CNN original series, Standoff, the FBI, Power and Paranoia, premieres Sunday, March 22nd on CNN and next day on the CNN app. In our world, lead a new report from Columbia University estimates that some 12 million, 12 million girls under the age of 18 are forced into marriage every year. The report is titled Accelerating Efforts to End Child Marriage. It highlights the root causes of child marriage and potential strategies to end it. This is not just a far away overseas issue entirely.
34:45Here in the United States, at least 34 states allow individuals under the age of 18 to marry with parental consent. I want to bring in two notable members of Columbia's Child Marriage Advisory Council. First Lady Fatima Maad-Biu of Sierra Leone. And, of course, Sheryl Sandberg, who commissioned the report. First Lady Mada Bio, this is something personal to you because you were married at 12. So tell us, what kind of impact can child marriage have on the life of a young girl? Well, the important thing for people to understand is that this is not child marriage at all. This is a form of legalizing rape.
35:23You know, when we are talking about an issue as important as this, and we're talking about a young girl's life, a life that she had no consent, she cannot make any decision on how her future is supposed to be like. I think it's not just a human right abuse, but it is also using the system to legalize rape for young girls. And it is a situation where your dream, you killed your dream. You don't plan for tomorrow. You only plan for the day today. I was lucky. I was lucky not to be part of it 100 % because we had war in Sierra Leone. So that was the only reason why, I mean, I keep saying to God, you don't want war, but the war is what saved me.
36:16Because if not, I would have been part of that circle. I knew I had been married off completely. It's just the day they were going to take me to my husband. And from the day I knew about it, I could not plan my life anymore. There was no need to think about school. There was no need to be excited about school. There was no need for me to think about, you know, how my tomorrow is going to be like. All I was thinking about is how am I going to survive this? What I need to do to get out of this? I mean, if I get out of it, how many people is it going to affect? And I was also worried about my mother's safety because when I make a decision not to be part of the marriage, how is that going to affect my mother in her home?
36:59Because she found herself in a situation where my father was in total control of the decision that she makes. And I have younger brothers and younger sisters that I needed to protect because if I'm not there, my mother is not there. What happened to them? So it's just one situation where no child should be allowed to go through those things and then have all of that body to make a decision on issues like this. I think it is wrong. It is a legalized form of rape. And it is also a legalized form of slavery. Because it's not only about going there and have sex with somebody you don't want to have sex with.
37:35But you're going to be a slave in serving that person, serving their wives, because most of them don't have one wife or two. They have three, four wives. And then imagine a child coming into a situation like that. You now have to look after the co-wives, look after their own children. And you are also a child. What kind of life is that? Cheryl, this is top of mind in Iran, where girls as young as nine can be married off with their father's consent, judicial approval. What are the strategies that could help end this practice?
38:06Jake Tapper:Yeah, I mean, let's talk about how horrific that is. Nine years old. Nine years old. Three things. girls' education. Girls need to get all the way through secondary school. When girls are educated, they have economic opportunities outside the home. The second thing is health care, health care access for girls. And the third thing are laws, laws against marriage under 18 and the enforcement of those laws. The first lady has an incredible example of the laws in Sierra Leone that made it not just illegal to get married or to marry your child, but illegal to attend a wedding? Yeah. Well, because, you know, the president we have, who is my husband, the current president, Julius Madubio, he believes that these are crime against humanity.
38:57And most cases, when we come up with a solution, he implements those solutions. And when we took the bill to parliament, we did not just take a bill for the perpetrators and the parents that are involved. It's a community thing. They said it takes a community to look after a child. So it takes a community also to destroy a child. So everyone who is involved, if you attend the wedding, if you are the DJ at the wedding, if you are the decorator at the wedding, if you are the officiator at the wedding, you are the parent, as long as you are involved in that wedding and you did not ask. You did not ask the age of that child.
39:38And if we find out that that child is on the age and the child happened to go to the police station, all of you are going to be arrested. And the burden of proof is on you, not on us. Because before you attend those weddings, you should have asked questions. And Cheryl, your report points out that nearly 315 ,000 minors in the United States were married between 2000 and 2021. How do you end the practice here in the U.S.
40:05Jake Tapper:Laws. Every state needs a law that's over 18. Everyone in the world needs that law. And the other thing our report does in addition to that is it talks about the economic consequence of this. We estimate with the Center on Global Development that this costs the world$175 billion a year in lost GDP. That's because girls' lives are cut short, higher maternal mortality, higher child mortality, lower workforce participation. And remember, when you marry a 13-year-old, that child often has children of her own. And her body is not ready for that. When you think about the health consequences, the moral consequences, this is not an acceptable practice.
40:50Jake Tapper:And in this day of so much polarization, of nothing we agree on globally, we all think this is one thing we can all come together on. Cheryl Sandberg. Child marriage needs sand. Sheryl Sandberg and First Lady Fatima Amada, thank you so much. Appreciate your time today. Thank you, Jake. Thank you for having us, Jake. Thank you for having us. I had some tense moments when rockets near the Israeli border with Lebanon flew over the heads of a CNN crew. Jeremy Diamond has his reporting next. This is CNN Breaking News. Welcome to The Lead. I'm Jake Tapper, and we are following breaking news tonight.
41:26A fresh wave of attacks lit up the evening sky over Tehran today as President Trump said there will be no deal with Iran until, quote, unconditional surrender. What exactly does that mean? Well, the president just told Barack Ravid of Axios, who's also a CNN contributor, that, quote, unconditional surrender could mean the complete destruction of the regime's military capabilities, not necessarily a formal unconditional surrender. Despite the Pentagon continuing to say that the goal is not regime change, President Trump insists he must be involved in the selection of Iran's next leader. Trump telling CNN's Dana Bash earlier today that Iran's leadership has been neutered, and he's looking for new leadership that will treat the U.S., Israel, and Middle East allies well.
42:14When pressed on whether he wants Iran to become a democratic state, Trump said he's not concerned whether Iran becomes democratic or not, telling Dana, no, I'm saying there has to be a leader that's going to be fair and just. Do a great job. But the longer this war on Iran drags on, and it has only been a week, the more political pressure the president will face at home, if passed as precedent. The Strait of Hormuz, a key oil passage, is basically at a standstill amid the war. U.S. oil prices are skyrocketing, topping$91 a barrel for the first time since October 2023. President Trump earlier dismissed those concerns, saying, quote, it'll be a short-term time.
42:53It'll go away, way down very quickly. Jeremy Diamond is in Tel Aviv, Israel for us. Jeremy, you just returned from the site of a skirmish at the Israel-Lebanon border. Hezbollah in Lebanon attacked Israel. Israel is retaliating. Tell us more. Yeah, Jake, this really is the second front in Israel's war with Iran, especially as Israeli military officials say that Hezbollah faced significant pressure from Iran to join in this war, to retaliate against Israel for the killing of the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei, and of course the joint U.S.-Israeli strikes that we saw this past Saturday. But I can tell you that that front is certainly intensifying right now.
43:36Earlier today, when my team and I were right along the border, we could see projectiles coming from Hezbollah towards Israeli territory very near to our position as well as Israeli strikes and artillery fire going into Lebanon. Here's just a little bit of what we saw.
43:56Oh, OK, so we're going to put our vests on now because we just saw not one but two projectiles coming in. It's still not clear exactly what that was, but we're now starting to hear the outgoing Israeli fire responding to it.
44:15And now, okay.
44:20He's just, he's so used to it. And that was hitting the same spot. Yeah, getting very active here now. And Jake, that cross-border fire continued for several hours today, and it resulted actually in seriously injuring at least five Israeli soldiers, according to the Israeli military. In Lebanon, we know that the Israeli military carried out at least 115 strikes, according to the IDF. That included strikes that were not only in southern Lebanon, some of those we could see and hear with our own eyes and ears, but also in the Lebanese capital of Beirut, after the Israeli military yesterday ordered hundreds of thousands of people living in the Dahye, those southern suburbs that are known to be a Hezbollah stronghold to evacuate from their homes.
45:12Many of those people now living out on the streets or trying to flee to the countryside as the Israeli military subsequently intensified its strikes in Beirut, taking down multiple high-rise buildings as well in Lebanon. The question now is whether or not Israel is going to go further in terms of a potential larger-scale ground operation. My team and I certainly saw tanks and artillery position near the border. We know Israel already occupies several positions in southern Lebanon. But now the question is whether or not they will go deeper than that. Jake. I also want to bring in CNN's Clarissa Ward, who is in Erbil, Iraq.
45:48Clarissa, the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad just issued a warning about a new threat. Tell us about that. That's right, Jake. This was just a few hours ago. They issued a warning saying that hotels in Iraqi Kurdistan, where we are, where foreigners are staying, they believed may be under threat from strikes from Iran-backed militias inside Iraq. And literally, Jake, not even two hours after they issued that warning, four drones were intercepted over Erbil. One of them actually made some impact, or the debris made impact with a hotel right in the center of town. Fortunately, nobody was injured. But this certainly a new twist or turn, I should say, here in hundreds of contractors who had been working on bases across the region, who were pulled for security reasons when this war began, some of them even before this war began, but who are now effectively stranded here in a sense and are staying in these hotels and now find themselves a target.
46:55And we did see a statement coming from one of those militias that's part of this sort of axis of resistance, if you will, that effectively said, and I'll just read from the statement, your evacuation of your bases and your flight to hotels does not make you safe. We are pursuing you, and we know in which hotels you reside. So all of this, Jake, really contributing to fears that civilian infrastructure could now be targeted more and more here in Erbil, which we had not seen before. And again, the question of what to do with not just all those contractors, but business people and other Americans who have been told that they should leave, but don't necessarily have an easy option at this stage, Jake, to get out.
47:39Clarissa Ward in Erbil, Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Let's discuss this all with CNN Global Affairs analyst Kareem Sojapur. He's a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. His latest piece for The Atlantic is titled, quote, Trump has lost the plot in Iran. Thanks so much for being here, Kareem. How has Trump lost the plot in Iran? Well, I think we need to rewind to January of this year when we look at the reasons that we've gotten into this situation. President Trump on nine occasions warned the Iranian regime that if they kill protesters, American help was on the way.
48:17Obviously, Iran ran a giant truck through Trump's red line that killed tens of thousands of protesters. And I feel we've kind of lost sight of that original rationale. This war, in some ways, has been a tale of two wars. The military aspect of it has been remarkably well planned. But the political strategic messaging seems from the president to be improvised on a daily basis. Yeah, it's unclear. Although regime change is not one of the goals, it would be a nice fringe benefit is how the Trump administration is casting it. Let me recap what President Trump told my colleague, Dana Bash, earlier today about picking a new leader in Iran.
48:59He said it's going to work very easily, like in Venezuela, where the vice president became the president. He said he was open to having a religious leader. When pressed on, he's insisting there needs to be a democratic state, small d democratic. He said no. He also said he needs to be involved in picking the new leader. What do you make of that? Is any of that realistic? I think it's mistaken messaging, Jake, to look at a country like Iran, 2 ,500-year history, very proud people, and for centuries there's been great power competition inside Iran, something the population resents. So in this situation, I think the president's message should be very simple.
49:39We want the people of Iran to choose their next leaders, and we, the United States and global community, want to empower them to do so. In your Atlantic article, you write that Tehran has recognized for decades that American public opinion is one of its most potent allies in restraining the regional ambitions of U.S. presidents. It seems clear that the administration is very wary of so-called boots on the ground, even though a major military campaign is underway and we've already lost at least six service members. How do you think American public opinion is playing a role here? Well, that is absolutely Iran's strategy, to try to negatively impact American public opinion to restrain Trump's ambitions.
50:23And there's several ways in which they can do that. Most importantly, they want to try to spike the price of oil so Americans feel it in their pocketbooks. That's why they've shut down the Straits of Hormuz. Shutting down the Straits of Hormuz, attacking oil refineries in Saudi Arabia, They have killed service members. They want Americans to be asking why our sons and daughters being killed in the Middle East and just general chaos, explosions. They want the president to, public opinion to restrain the president as it did in the aftermath of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq. Your piece also notes that the CNN report that the CIA is arming Kurdish groups inside Iran.
51:03How unusual is that? How unusual is it that we would know about that? And what does it say to you about the strategy and the long-term planning here? Well, regimes like Iran, they rule by divide and rule. And I think what's dangerous about this strategy is that Iranian Kurds have long been suffering and been repressed by this regime. They constitute about 10 % of Iran's population. So they're never going to pose an existential threat to the regime. the most effective kind of opposition in Iran will be a united opposition. And there's a danger here when the United States is trying to play sides and arm different factions that it actually accentuates opposition divides rather than helps unite it.
51:46Is there a Jean Moulin, the leader of the French resistance, is there a person who can unify all the disparate groups and bring everybody together, at least in the short term, before there are some sort of democratic elections? This is jumping ahead 15 steps. But is there anyone like that? Is the son of the Shah possibly going to fill that role successfully? It's too soon to say. I think Reza Pahlavi, the son of the late Shah, is in pole position in that they say all revolutions require two kinds of leadership, inspirational leadership and organizational leadership. And for many Iranians, he has emerged as that source of inspiration.
52:26But he's been outside the country for 47 years. doesn't have that organizational leadership on the ground. And for that reason, that's why it's going to require, if this regime is going to be overthrown by an opposition, it's going to require much more united opposition. Kareem, Sajjapur, thank you so much. Great to have you. We'll have you back soon. Is Russia helping Iran keep tabs on the movements of U.S. troops? A retired general will weigh in on the potential consequences of a CNN report from intelligence sources that Russia is doing exactly that.
53:03Back in our worldly new satellite images from several key military bases in the Arabian Peninsula suggests that Iran may be trying to weaken regional air defenses by destroying U.S.-made radars used to detect incoming missiles and drones. Satellite images show damage to radar bases in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. Let's bring in retired Army four-star officer and former command, four-star general and former commander of U.S. Central Command, General Joseph Votel. General, thanks so much for joining us. As you know, these bases have THAAD batteries, a U.S.-made missile interceptor system used to destroy incoming ballistic missiles.
53:41If Iran is deliberately targeting U.S.-made radars that detect these incoming missiles, what does that suggest to you about their strategy right now?
53:53Jake Tapper:Thanks, Jake. It's good to be with you.
54:20Jake Tapper:who inflict damage or in worst cases, casualties on us, they know that that could potentially work against us. Speaking of casualties and damage, sources with U.S. intelligence tell CNN that Russia is providing Iran with intelligence about the locations and movements of American troops, ships, aircraft. I want you to listen to what White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said about this story on Fox. Whether or not this happened, frankly, it does not really matter because President Trump and the United States military are absolutely decimating the rogue Iranian terrorist regime. Obviously, the U.S.
55:05military has been remarkably successful in the last week, but do you think it does not matter?
55:12Jake Tapper:I think any commander would be concerned about anybody who was providing information on their troops or their locations or key pieces of equipment so yeah I think this is something we should be paying attention to and I would hope that in kind of in the back channels here we are communicating to Russia our displeasure with these reports and trying to track them down so yeah we want to do everything we can to protect our forces and our soldiers against threats that may come from anywhere to include the sharing of intelligence with our adversaries. After meeting with top defense contractors at the White House earlier today, President Trump said that they agreed to quadruple production.
55:49In a Truth Social post, the president added, quote, we have a virtually unlimited supply of medium and upper medium grade munitions, which we are using as an example in Iran and recently used in Venezuela. Regardless, however, we have also increased orders at these levels, unquote. So we're in day six of this war in Iran. There's been no clear indication about when it's going to end. At what point would somebody in the military become concerned about how this will definitively impact the U.S. weapons and munitions stockpiles?
56:22Jake Tapper:Well, you know, for all the great stuff we're seeing being executed by airplanes and by our maritime forces, I think we have to appreciate behind all that force is an armada of great logisticians who have been worrying about this problem long before conflict began here. So this is the key area that every commander is going to pay attention to. We're always going to be concerned about supply rates, particularly munitions, supply rates if we continue to do the things that we are being asked to do. In my view, I think we probably have moved sufficient munitions into the theater to support Admiral Cooper's operations here.
57:04Jake Tapper:You know, we haven't really seen any degrading of that to date. You know, certainly with continued time, we could see some particular issues with that, but we're not right now. And I think we're going to continue to rely on our industrial base to make sure that we are provided the equipment that we need. All right. Former CENTCOM Commander General Joseph Otel, thank you so much for your time and expertise, sir. Good to be with you. Confusion and many questions after ICE reportedly detained a journalist in Tennessee. That reporter's attorney is going to join us in studio next to explain what happened.
57:46International lead ICE detained a reporter for a Spanish language news channel Wednesday in Nashville without a warrant, according to her attorney, who is now filing a petition for her release. Estefany Rodriguez and her husband were in the car outside the gym when they saw ICE vehicles pull up behind and in front of them. The husband tells CNN, my wife was really shocked. She's like really confused and can't understand. You know, we really couldn't understand why we're being surrounded, unquote. That's because, according to her attorney and her family, Estefany immigrated to the U.S. from Colombia legally in 2021, seeking asylum due to the threat she was getting because of her journalism about crime and corruption.
58:28Now her husband is a U.S. citizen. He was born in Texas and is sponsoring her application for a green card as it works. Her attorney, Joel Coxander, is here with me now. So, Joel, thanks for being here. You shared with us that Estefany started receiving notices from ICE in January of this year saying that she should come in for meetings. What happened that led up to this arrest? so she had last week on the 25th an appointment that she was supposed to go to with ice and the monday before my co-counsel caleb monday had gone with her husband to ice to be like hey is you know what's going on here like is there a way that she doesn't have to go to this appointment and the officer said hey there's no appointment for her on wednesday in the system and that that then gave her a new sheet saying, hey, we'll show up on March 17th instead.
59:24So she didn't have to go on Wednesday. That was the message. And instead, you know, there's now saying that that was actually a sign that she's a flight risk, that she, you know, or at least that's part of their argument, that she intentionally didn't show up. So we reached out to ICE and DHS about Stephanie's arrest. In part, the ICE spokesperson's statement reads, quote, that she was arrested during a targeted enforcement operation. Rodriguez Flores entered the United States with a tourist visa March 10th, 2021, which was valid until March 23rd, 2021. She failed to depart the country and is in violation of the conditions of her visa and currently has no lawful immigration status.
1:00:05She will remain in ICE custody pending her immigration proceedings. Claims that ICE did not have a warrant are false. ICE officers had an administrative warrant at the time of the arrest, and the officers issuing administrative warrants have found probable cause to issue the warrant, unquote. And the statement goes on to say all individuals who violate U.S. immigration law are subject to arrest regardless of their criminal history. Her husband says she has no criminal history. What's your response to this? They did submit a crumpled up piece of paper that is a warrant for arrest. and we've already responded to that because it doesn't have a lot of information on it.
1:00:43It doesn't have her A number, which is her alien number. And our position is that also this was still a warrantless arrest because they didn't serve this honor. At the very bottom of this document, they say this is the arrest warrant. There's no signature from an officer, an interpreter for her saying that this was actually given to her and that's one of the requirements. So she came into this country on a tourist visa, right? You're not disputing that. She applied for asylum. She said, I can't go back to Colombia. I'll be killed because of my journalism. Right? Is that correct? She got married, fell in love, got married.
1:01:17He's a U.S. citizen. I don't understand why ICE is pursuing her. She has a job. She's married to a U.S. citizen. She applied for asylum. She's been in communication with ICE. She's not hiding. Do you have any idea why they would target her? As a TV reporter, has she been critical of ICE? So she has covered ICE. She's gone to arrests by ICE. In fact, just the week that she was arrested, she had gone to cover some arrests, right, I think just the day before. And, you know, we don't have any knowledge that they targeted her because she was a reporter. But they did know she was a reporter, as we put in our response.
1:02:03Your response says she frequently reports on stories critical of ICE, including covering ICE arrests yesterday on March 3rd, 2026, which you don't state it directly, but you seem to be suggesting, and I'm not saying you're wrong, that this might be retaliatory in nature. Yes. And we just filed a response this afternoon where we actually requested the court allow us to amend the habeas petition to specifically address that this is a First Amendment violation and retaliation. Have you talked to her since she was detained? Where is she? I talked to her for a while while she was still in Nashville, but I've not been able to speak with her since she was moved.
1:02:42Do you know where she is? Best as we know, she's still in Alabama. What are the next steps if this emergency petition for habeas doesn't work? So she is eligible for bond because she entered lawfully. So we've already filed the bond motion earlier today. and I think that she has a good chance for that, but it's complicated these days with immigration courts. I just don't even understand it. I thought that if you marry a U.S. citizen and the country knows that you're here and the citizen, that your husband or wife who's a citizen sponsors you, I thought the country, the nation, the government kind of just like, unless you're a criminal, just leaves you alone.
1:03:26You know, historically, that is how things worked. And from my experience, you know, that's not how things are working in a lot of cases now, that as long as somebody is an overstay on their visa, even if they've been, you know, with a pending asylum application or a pending green card the whole time and never, like, really been without something that's pending, you know, that they, that that doesn't seem to matter anymore. This whole thing stinks. Joel Coxander, thank you so much. Appreciate it. If she gets out, please bring her by. We'd love to talk to her. Absolutely. She's wonderful. As the White House prepares for Kristi Noem's departure from DHS, I'm going to be joined live by a member of Congress who had a viral confrontation with her over mass deportation.
1:04:14Stick with us.
1:04:20In our politics lead, the White House is working quickly to get confirmation plans in place for the man they want to be the next secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. And as the senator from Oklahoma hopes to step into the president's cabinet, Kristi Noem is on her way out, leading a trail of controversies in her wake. One Trump advisor told Axios, quote, Minneapolis was just a disaster. We were supposed to be stopping fraud from Somalian illegals, but we wind up shooting two people in the middle of the street, unquote. Another said, quote, she had no goodwill on Capitol Hill.
1:04:53She mismanaged FEMA. She didn't show up to hearings. She was disrespectful. No one liked her, unquote. Congressman Seth Magaziner joins us now. He's a Democrat from Rhode Island and a member of the House Homeland Security Committee. Congressman, do you believe that the ousting of Secretary Noem is enough? And if not, what action do you want to see happen to hold her accountable for her time as secretary? Well, Kristi Noem is out and good riddance. Nobody from either side is going to miss her. As far as I can tell, I certainly won't. But it's going to take a lot more than firing Kristi Noem to reform the Department of Homeland Security, rein in ICE, and regain the trust of the American people.
1:05:34Look, Kristi Noem's tenure was based on a fundamental lie that she told to Americans. She said that under her tenure, the Department of Homeland Security was going to go after the worst of the worst, her phrase. But they didn't go after the worst of the worst. They went after grandmas and gardeners and kids with cancer and U.S. citizens, even deporting veterans. And by their own data, the majority of the people who they detained and deported under her watch were people who had no criminal record at all. So the first thing that's going to have to happen in order for Mark Wayne Mullen or whoever the next secretary is to regain the trust of the American people is actually focus on the bad guys and demonstrate that you can tell the difference between the good guys and the bad guys, which Kristi Noam couldn't.
1:06:24The second thing that they need to do to regain people's trust is show that there will be accountability when ICE agents or anyone else abuse their power. In any other law enforcement agency in the country, if someone engages in excessive use of force, if you have incidents of people being just killed in the street, as Renee Good and Alex Pretty were, there's an investigation and there can be discipline for misconduct. To my knowledge, they haven't disciplined anybody in over a year, even though there have clearly been abuses of power by ICE in this administration. So the other thing that I want to see is accountability.
1:07:08Accountability not just for people at the top, but accountability for people in the rank and file if they have abused their power. When people abuse their power, not only does it hurt the victims, hurt the innocent people who are hurt, But it also hurts the people in the agencies who are trying to do their job the right way by putting a bad reputation on the entire agency. So Noem's team is firing back at the White House on background. They argued that she was thrown under the bus by the president. At the center of this all, what appeared to be the last straw for President Trump is this controversial$220 million ad campaign that prominently featured Noem.
1:07:47She testified on the Capitol Hill this week that Trump knew about it. Trump said to Reuters he knew nothing about it. So the question is, who's telling the truth, Kristi Noem or Donald Trump? Kristi Noem, if you believe the president, committed perjury. But what do you think? Well, you know, I think it says a lot about Donald Trump that the thing that got Kristi Noem fired was not American citizens being murdered in broad daylight by ICE or children being deported or kids with cancer being deported. The thing that got her fired ultimately was the fact that she didn't handle a question well about whether she was having an affair and that she didn't handle a question well about this ad campaign.
1:08:32The president apparently doesn't care about the cruelty that we've seen by ICE and by DHS in American neighborhoods. He cares more about about Kristi Noem making him look bad. But again, this is an opportunity for a reset. I am concerned that, again, the problems that we are seeing go beyond Kristi Noem. It ultimately stems from Stephen Miller and his artificial quota of wanting to deport 3 ,000 people a day. And if you look at the data, if you look at the facts, you cannot deport that many people. if you're only going after people with criminal records, right? You are necessarily going to be deporting children and other people who we shouldn't be.
1:09:19And so, look, I think the administration did this because they know they have a political problem. They know that they are unpopular right now, including on this issue. So they have an opportunity to reset. But again, getting rid of your original question, getting rid of Kristi Noem is not enough. they need to have a real reset in how they approach immigration enforcement. Will that happen? I don't know. It depends whether cooler heads prevail over Stephen Miller's brand of extremism. Congressman Seth Magaziner of Rhode Island, thanks so much, sir. Appreciate it. President Obama delivering a tribute to the late Reverend Justin Jackson today.
1:09:56Calling out those in high office, he didn't mention Donald Trump by name. Hear his remarks next. It's good to be home.
1:10:10In our politics lead after pressure from House Republican leaders in battle, Texas Congressman Tony Gonzalez has finally pulled the plug on his re-election bid, posting, quote, after deep reflection, and with the support of my loving family, I've decided not to seek re-election while serving out the rest of this Congress, unquote. Gonzalez still faces a House ethics investigation after admitting to a sexual relationship with a staffer who later died by suicide. Gonzalez had been in a runoff with conservative social media personality and gun rights activist Brandon Herrera, who presumably now will be the Republican nominee.
1:10:43By the way, here's Herrera talking about owning a vintage copy of Mein Kampf on a podcast in 2024. That's my copy at my house next to a bunch of the German stick grenades. I got the 1939 edition printed in English just because I thought it was wild. that you couldn't buy it on Amazon, but you can buy the Communist Manifesto and desktop it all. Here now is our panel. We should know Herrera also posted this review of a Nazi-made gun on his YouTube channel back in 2022.
1:11:17This, if you can't tell, is the MP40, the original ghetto blaster. If the MG42 was Hitler's buzzsaw, the MP40 was Hitler's street sweeper. I guess ghetto blaster is supposed to be laughing about killing Jews in a ghetto. Later in the song, Herrera plays a German marching song that was published during the Nazi regime. Kevin Madden, you're the Republican at the table. Surely the Republican Party can do better than this. Well, you know, the voters down in that primary had their say in this. This was the these are the candidates that they had to choose from. not exactly the best crop. But look, I think the candidate here in this case is going to have to address this.
1:12:00He's going to have to address it directly. To my knowledge, he has. And I'm sure that the Democrats are going to bring it up. But that's going to just really open up a lot of different, very hard, tough fought fights between congressional Republicans in the state as well as congressional Democrats, which we've already seen throughout this entire campaign cycle already. So, Chuck, the Democratic nominee, Katie Padilla-Stout, is an attorney, former public school teacher. She posted this after Congressman Gonzalez dropped out, quote, While the Republican side is full of dysfunction, chaos, and extremism, I'm ready to fight for the real issues that matter to the hardworking people of Texas 23.
1:12:38Tuesday night I received more votes than any other candidate running Democrat or Republican. We should note, this is a congressional district Trump won by 15 points. Is it actually in play just because, I shouldn't say just, The Republicans have nominated somebody who owns a copy of Mein Kampf and thinks it's funny to joke about the Holocaust. Is it actually in play or no? It is because look at the trends. One election doesn't mean anything. Several elections in a row does. When Trump went in and they redistricted this, Jake, they took it from an R plus 5 to an R plus 7, and then Trump gets 15.
1:13:11But if you look at the numbers here, if it's an R plus 7 district in the primary, 53 ,000 Democrats voted and 51 ,000 Republicans voted. The Democrats spent nothing, and the Republicans spent millions of dollars. Congressman Gonzalez even had a super PAC backing him up against the AK guy. That's what he calls himself online. And it gives an opening to a woman like this. And I would draw your attention to a new poll that dropped in Texas today, a Televisa Univision poll that talks a lot about what the issues Ms. Padilla was talking about, not what Mr. Herrera was talking about. I want to play something former President Obama said today at Jesse Jackson's funeral service.
1:13:46Take a listen. each day we wake up to some new assault on our democratic institutions
1:14:00another setback to the idea of the rule of law each day we're told by those in high office to fear each other and to turn on each other and that some americans count more than others and that some don't even count it up. Kevin, you have an interesting perspective here on hearing this because you used to work for Mitt Romney, who at the time Democrats demonized as a cruel robber baron. And then, you know, now he's the statesman of the year. What do you make of the criticism from President Obama? Well, it's always convenient for Obama to come out and criticize the state of American politics when he was always somebody who, when he was trying to draw what we would describe in political parlance as a contrast message, was very good at it.
1:14:55So, you know, sometimes we, his biggest, I think his fiercest critics are always find, will always point out that while he says, you know, when they go low, we go high, when we should be uniting the country instead of dividing it, there's always a very long laundry list of instances where, you know, Obama's instinct is to oftentimes be just as sharply with his political rhetoric as anybody. I think if you look at what's happening today, a lot has changed in politics since 08. You know, I have spent the primary with James Tallarico down in Texas, and he spent a lot of time talking to voters about, let's look for things that make us have more things in common, and not the things that pull us apart and the things that we see on this every day that are paid to pull us apart.
1:15:39I think that's starting to resonate with people, and I think you saw that in those results. Let's talk about that because I don't think I've had you on the show since Tallarico won, and you were a consultant for Tallarico. I've seen your advisor. So Tallarico won. I was a little surprised by it, to be honest. How did he win? And Republicans are already going after him as too extreme, too on the left. They have this quote of him saying that God is not binary or something. How is he going to handle those attacks? A, you can tell that they're scared about him because they're going to fight each other now for 60 more days in their runoff.
1:16:09He went and talked to people. And a big part of his victory, if you look at the election results, were Latino voters and white voters. But a tremendous amount of Latino voters in Texas was just a few years ago. And I was a Democrat that gave the Republicans credit. They were swinging right, but they swung back left hard because he went in and he was the only one advertising over a long period of time in Spanish, Spanish mail, Spanish TV, and showing up in community talking about what we just talked about. And when folks said Democrats can't talk about religion and hope, he showed up and talked about religion and hope, and Democrats flocked to him.
1:16:39I'm guessing that you're polling for John Cornyn over the attorney general, Paxton? Yeah, look, I think Cornyn's been a very good senator. So why is he in so much trouble? Well, I think right now it's a very tough political environment. There's no doubt about that. But he's been elected a number of times. He's a good campaigner. And I think that he has the right, I think he's more aligned with those voters right now in Texas than the Democrats, who have, you know, they have a longer history of being out of the mainstream with a lot of the Democrats. And the independent, conservative-minded independents in that state, they're going to make or break who wins this election.
1:17:19But he, Cornyn votes with the president maybe like 99 % of the time, maybe even like 100%. You say it's a tough environment. Well, you know why? Why is it tough? Because I think it's very clear there's like an attitudinal shift inside the party, an attitudinal split, and he doesn't necessarily reflect that as well as some of the others. Remember the hate here? That's why. This is why. All right, Kevin, Chuck, thanks to both of you. Really appreciate it. President Trump made a pretty big promise to veterans, but there are some signs that he might not be on track to keep that promise. We'll tell you what we're talking about next.
1:17:52In our politics lead, as President Trump wages a new war in the Middle East, he appears to be breaking a promise here at home to those who have fought in previous wars. Last May, President Trump signed an executive order called Keeping Promises to Veterans and Establishing a National Center for Warrior Independence. The center would finally settle a years-long legal battle and establish homes for veterans in California, something that has been repeatedly promised to these men and women. And it's a story we've been closely following here on The Lead for years. It sounds like a good idea, right?
1:18:24Well, CNN's Nick Watt looked into how developments are coming along.
1:18:29Jake Tapper:The Center for Warrior Independence will be here on a vast VA campus given to veterans in the 1880s for a home, but used over the years for a VA hospital as well as parking lots, dog parks, oil wells, UCLA's baseball field, and the exclusive Brentwood School's sports facilities. The administration did just terminate that school's long-term lease on the property, but the key Trump promise in that order is to, quote, restore the capacity to house up to 6 ,000 homeless veterans by January 1, 2028. There are, after previous legal battles, some units for homeless vets already here and more under construction.
1:19:14Jake Tapper:The Trump administration just announced in court after the VA lost a suit filed by needy veterans that they're working to fulfill the president's promise and laid out a vague plan to build around another 2 ,500 units. But I've done some math. That will only bring the total capacity here to maybe 5 ,000 and not until the fourth quarter of 2030. Could be later. So about a thousand units short of the president's promise to veterans and around three years late. Remember the executive order's title, keeping promises to veterans. I want to see President Trump's executive order be successful. My big concern at the moment is that a lot of the VA executive leadership, they've all signed non-disclosure agreements.
1:19:59Jake Tapper:and they're not communicating with any of us. There are more than 30 ,000 homeless veterans nationwide by the most recent count, around 3 ,000 here in Los Angeles alone. With the history of this property, there's always been a lack of transparency. And that's how a lot of the problems have gone on here for decades. You know, promises made have not been kept. For example, Air Force vet George Fleischman was told he'd be in one of these 8x8 sheds just for a few months before moving into a permanent home. This land is supposed to be for people exactly like you. Yeah, I'm familiar with Sedin. It's not for us.
1:20:36They're on housing us and we're dying over here.
1:20:39Jake Tapper:Fleischman, who says he was exposed to Agent Orange while stationed in Okinawa, has now been in this shed without running water for more than three years. And if I wasn't a Christian, I'd kill myself. It's not worth living like this. I reached out to the White House. They punted to the VA. The VA declined an interview, eventually gave me a statement that reads in part, what VA outlined in court relates only to issues in the case, which is narrower than President Trump's EO. So what they're trying to say is they laid out a plan in court, but there's another plan that fulfills the executive order.
1:21:17Jake Tapper:I asked to see it. They never replied. Jake. Thanks to Nick Watt for that report. Coming up on Sunday on State of the Union, we're going to have Republican Senator Tom Tillis and Democratic Senator Chris Murphy and the Secretary of the Department of Energy, Chris Wright. That's Sunday at 9 a.m. and noon Eastern only on CNN. Aaron Burnett out front. Live in Tel Aviv starts now.
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