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20:04Jake Tapper:We've seen some high-profile arrests in the U.K., former Prince Andrew, ex-Business Secretary and Ambassador Peter Mandelson. We have not seen any criminal charges in the U.S. or even developments about investigations opening or whatever. Do you think that we are going to see that kind of accountability here in the U.S.? We certainly hope so, and that's what we're fighting for. It is an embarrassment that European countries are taking the lead on this, and I really hope that someone in the Justice Department really sees the bigger picture here and understands that it's time to be on the right side of the issue, no matter what the cost.

20:50Jake Tapper:Liz Stein, thank you so much. Always good to have you on. And as always, we appreciate your courage in speaking out. Thank you so much. Thanks, Jake. Coming up, a new plea for help and a big new reward. Savannah Guthrie, the NBC News anchor, offering$1 million for information that leads to the return of her mother. This is from an emotional new video. Stay with us.

21:18Jake Tapper:international lead after a week of silence today show anchor savannah guthrie today came out with an emotional new plea as the desperate search for her mother nancy stretches on for a fourth week guthrie family is now offering up to a million dollars for information leading directly to nancy guthrie's return we still believe that she can come home hope against hope as my sister says we are blowing on the embers of hope

21:50we also know that she may be lost she may already be gone she may have already gone home to the lord that she loves but we need to know where she is we need her to come home. For that reason, we are offering a family reward of up to$1 million for any information that leads us to her recovery.

22:26Jake Tapper:CNN's Ed Levandera is following all the latest from Tucson, Arizona. And Ed, it's just heartbreaking to hear Savannah acknowledge that her mother may already be gone, may have passed. What are you hearing about why the family is offering this huge reward now? Well, we were told by a source close to the Guthrie family that this was something that the family wanted to do at the very beginning of the investigation, which is now into its fourth week, 24 days ago when this nightmare started for them. But they were cautioned off of that by law enforcement investigators saying that there were already a flood of calls coming in.

23:04The story was already generating a great deal of publicity. They didn't want to overwhelm the infrastructure of the call centers. And we know that in talking to investigators, they've had to beef up and add more people and staffing to these call centers to handle the influx of calls, especially after the videos and the pictures of the suspect were released almost two weeks ago, when even a larger flood and avalanche of calls came in because of that. But, Jake, we've been told in recent days that that number of calls and tips being called into these call centers has dropped as this investigation has gone on and on.

23:41Jake Tapper:This also comes as the Pima County Sheriff today addressed various reports that images of the suspect that had been previously released to the public by the FBI a couple of weeks ago, one in which he's wearing a backpack and one where he's not wearing a backpack. Did the sheriff offer any clarity? There are reports that these are from different days. Not a lot of clarity, but if you remember, you know, those pictures, we were standing here together in Nancy Guthrie's neighborhood when those pictures were released by the FBI. And as we were going through those batch of photos, we both noticed there was that one photo that showed the suspect without the backpack, without the holster gun around his waist.

24:22Very different from all of the other photos and videos that were released in that moment. A source tells CNN that it's believed that that photo comes from a different day, suggesting that it was another day that the suspect was here at Nancy Guthrie's front doorstep, which could help explain why investigators have been asking neighbors and residents around here to offer up videos from January 1st to February 2nd, as well as a few other specific days and times in January as well. But the sheriff in Pima County here told us and released a statement saying that any suggestion that this photo comes from a different day at this point is highly speculative because there is not a time stamp on those videos and pictures all right i love and there keep us

25:05Jake Tapper:updated on the search thank you so much and if you out there if you have any information you think could help this case please call the pima county sheriff's department at 520-351-4900 or the fbi at 1-800-CALL-FBI you can also reach the bureau online at tips.fbi.gov you can make any tip anonymously. Coming up in just a few hours, the president's going to use a major speech to argue that the country is better off under his leadership. Polls show many Americans do not agree. How is he going to convince them that they're wrong?

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26:10Jake Tapper:We're back with our politics lead. In a midterm election year, the State of the Union is typically an opportunity for the president. to talk about his accomplishments and lay out the argument as to why his party should control Congress for the rest of his term. But with flaccid approval ratings and a government and partial shutdown and multiple foreign crises and a recent takedown of his tariff powers by the U.S. Supreme Court, how tough will it be for President Trump to make that sale for the midterms to the American people? Joining us now, CNN senior political and global affairs commentator Rahm Emanuel, who previously served as chief of staff at the Obama White House, U.S.

26:45Jake Tapper:ambassador to Japan under Biden and some, I think, political director. Is that what you did for Bill Clinton, political director? I was special advisor on policy and politics. Anyway, my point is that you know from State of the Union speeches. What is the measure of a good, successful State of the Union address? Well, a good measure is that you've given yourself an agenda that actually directs the country and, more importantly, directs the Congress. I think this is going to, unfortunately for him, he's going to make it about himself, not the American people. And he has another audience, which is the members of Congress, who are doubting his leadership and where they stand right now.

27:21Remember, Democrats basically since November 2024 have gone 13 for 13 in every statewide election. And so he has to convince that Congress that he has an agenda that has their interests in mind. Then he has to convince the American people he hears their concerns. And I'm not sure that given where his head is, everything we've seen recently in Georgia, that's what he's going to do.

27:40Jake Tapper:So I was part of a group of network anchors that had lunch with the president as a tradition going back decades. Yes. And we're not allowed to talk about the contents of it except for a couple things that he said we could say. And one of them is his belief that, and I'm paraphrasing here, but something like the country is about to have the three best years of its economy in American history. And it has already started. I know that a lot of people, Republicans, Democrats alike, are pleading with him, especially the Republicans, please explain that you understand the pain that people are going through.

28:14Jake Tapper:He doesn't see it that way, though. Yeah, I think the layer is he does not see that. And I think that's going to be a bad place because there's a gulf of expectation between what he is going to say and where the American people are. And the better place to do is acknowledge where they are and tell you, here's how I'm going to get you to a better place. He won't do that because it says what he's done to date is failure. The second thing I think is a current underneath this. There's anxiety about the economy, and there's anxiety about what's happening around the world, and there's an anxiety that we're not taking care of business.

28:42When I say around the world, specifically Iran, he went from in the first term, Jake, of being basically gun-shy to the second term being trigger-happy. And that's what's happening right now. And then you have an economy that is basically a growth period, which is jobless, totally jobless, totally no income growth except for if you're a tech pro or a financer. And then here, you have a president of the United States that wants accolades at what he's done. And the American people said, what have you done for me lately? So I think there is a total mismatch of where he is and where the public is.

29:11And there's nothing he's going to say that is going to address any of these anxieties.

29:15Jake Tapper:So you were chief of staff for Obama in January 2010, right? No, I had already left. You left already after one year? No, I left. 2009. Oh, 2010. 2010, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I know your resume better than you do. So January 2010, President Obama criticizes the Citizens United decision, saying it was like dead wrong or something like that. Huge outcry by Republicans. So inappropriate. Now, President Trump has said much worse about the Supreme Court in the last week since they struck down his tariffs. Not in front of the country at the State of the Union, but how tough do you think it will be?

29:54Jake Tapper:If you were his chief of staff, you would have spent the last few days saying, please don't insult the Supreme Court. I think even before you get to the words, as you know, you walk down the aisle. If you go left, you walk in front of the Supreme Court. That's the tradition every president has done. If you go right, it's your cabinet and the joint chiefs. My prediction is that he will go right and totally walk, not even acknowledge them by walking by. But that's a slight that the American people won't see. Do you think it's going to be tough for him to resist criticizing, especially Gorsuch and Coney Barrett, who got confirmed and they voted against his tariffs?

30:25Well, that's where he's most angry. It's not just at the Supreme Court. No, it's those two. Two that he thinks are supposed to be loyal to him, not to the Constitution. The other thing is, I mean, I do think in this case is there can be a script. Every president has gone off script. Every president has gone off script. And where that goes, as a student of Donald Trump, this can go anywhere. And he may just, the moment, just looking at them, watching them not stand, watching them not applaud, which is what they will not do for either case. He just may take off on them. It may not be in the script, but my guess is it will be very hard for him in that hour, 60 minutes, to go without saying.

31:02Jake Tapper:So you think it's only going to be an hour? Well, I'm being generous right now. And also, I rethought in my head as we're talking. I was gone for that. I was already going back to Chicago Rock. Was that right? You were already? Okay. Yeah. So we've gone back and forth on this one. So let's talk about. And it's not that important a fact. Well, I just wondered if you had told him, please don't do that. There are other things I did, and he still ignored it. So right now, you called the president trigger happy. What specifically do you take issue with that he has done militarily? Because I think there are a lot of people out there, maybe you're not one of them.

31:31Jake Tapper:I'm certainly not expressing an opinion, but think bombing the Iranian nuclear sites was successful. Getting Maduro was successful. What do you take issue with? Well, there's Nigeria that's also in there in that area. What I'm saying is he went from, in a period of time in the first term, where he was gun-shy. I don't have a problem with what he's done with Iran. I think right now I have a problem. We can talk about that. You don't want him to strike Iran now? No, I think one of the issues is he has not explained the why and what the goal is and the objectives. The second thing that I think is very important.

32:00You want to change what's going on in Iran if you talk about the government? The only people that can do that are the Iranian people. And I would address them and say, you keep doing what we're doing, you're going to have more impoverishment. You have a choice. Your government makes a different choice. You're going to have improvement. You have a choice to force your government to make the right choice. I've laid that for him. He has not done it either for the American people or directly there in second. You're not going to bomb them to submission, whether it's a mini strike or a big strike. Now, on the other hand, he's got himself with more metal in the waters around Iran, and getting out of this without taking action is almost impossible.

32:33Jake Tapper:All right, Ambassador Rahm Emanuel, thank you so much. Still ahead, Inside the False Narrative posted about Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom's recent comments. That was picked up by Right Wing Media and run with What's the Real Story?

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33:53Jake Tapper:Our politics lead now, California Governor Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, has taken some heat online over comments he made Sunday night in front of a crowd in Atlanta. I'm not trying to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you. I'm no better than you. you know I'm a 960 SAT guy and you know and I'm not trying to offend anyone you know trying to act all there if you got 940 but literally a 960 SAT guy I cannot you you've never seen me read a speech because I cannot read a speech may be the wrong business to be in. You know, my dyslexia, I haven't overcome dyslexia. I'm living with it.

34:46Jake Tapper:Governor Newsom has made similar comments plenty of times before in front of all kinds of audiences. But in this instance, the context of what Newsom said was cut out by a right-wing social media account called End Wokeness that tells lies and shares disinformation all the time. and it depicted what Newsom said as racist. It described it as Governor Newsom to a black crowd in Georgia. I am like you. I'm a 960 SAT guy. I can't read, unquote. That is not what Newsom said. Still, that post has now been viewed millions of times, and the idea that Governor Newsom made racist comments before a black audience has been repeated by numerous right-wing figures and influencers, even sitting Senators Ted Cruz and Tim Scott, amplified it.

35:31Jake Tapper:President Trump himself seemingly weighed in, writing on Truth Social last night, wow, Gavin, new scum just dropped out of the presidential race. Now, Newsom's office told the LA Times that the audience he was speaking to was actually mixed race. And if you look at video, it might have even been a majority white. And he wasn't saying he couldn't read like them. He was saying he has dyslexia. You heard the clip. The danger is that fake, misleading, mischaracterized quotes go viral far faster than the real story, as was once said. Lies spread around the world while the truth is still putting on its boots.

36:04Jake Tapper:With me now to discuss my panel, former DNC Communications Director Sochi and host of Republican strategist Shermichael Singleton. And Shermichael, this is not just a Republican problem. There's disinformation all the time. But, you know, at this point, it does seem like public figures and people other than anonymous Twitter accounts like Unwokeness should have a responsibility to find out the truth of these things before they weigh in. Welcome to the world of social media. When I first saw the headlines, I was initially troubled. And then I went to YouTube, found the entire speech, watched it.

36:39And I think the point was rather noble, which was you can have a challenge in life and you can overachieve and accomplish those things in spite of that challenge. The only issue that I had with everything that the governor said was that he omitted that it was a little easier for him coming from an upper middle class family. That is not the case for most people with dyslexia. I looked up the numbers. Most are hardworking middle class families and below. And so their dads aren't judges. Their dads aren't friends with wealthy families that can make sure that they're connected with the right people and the best doctors.

37:13That's the only critique I would have. Just say, hey, it was easier for me. But I think as governor of California, maybe some soon to be future president, I want to make sure it's easier for everybody, despite what your financial status might be. That's the only critique I would have.

37:27Jake Tapper:So, Sochi, the other thing that's a problem here is that, again, the lie travels halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its boots. Megyn Kelly said this quote would haunt him forever. Congressman Randy Fine, a Republican from Florida, says Democrats should demand Newsom's resignation. I mean, watch the video. He didn't tell a black audience, I'm like you, I can't read. That's not what he said. That's right. And we're going to have more of this. It's only 2026. He is likely to run in 2028, as are a number we will likely have. Democrats have a dozen or so candidates. And it is quick, especially when you are on X, for something to catch fire and people to just judge based off of what an influencer says.

38:11So much so that MAGA influencers have tweeted wrong information and people within the federal government have been fired. Like you remember the Benary case where they said that he worked for Lisa Monaco and that he was in charge of the Comey matter in the Eastern District of Virginia. That wasn't true. He never worked on the Comey matter or the James matter. And he was fired immediately because of a right-wing influencer and that tweet taking off. And so this has been a problem not just in our politics, but also in our government. And even our highest government officials take these MAGA influencers for their word.

38:55And it ends up leading to firings.

38:57Jake Tapper:Now, you said, sure, Michael, welcome to social media. And I get it. This has happened to probably you. It's probably happened to you. I know it's happened to me. I know it's happened to President Trump. But at some point, shouldn't there be some effort to stop it? Yeah, you say, OK, this is getting out of control. And everybody who is in a position of power or authority or influence should agree to like, OK, let's just make sure this is true before we retweet it. Well, you want guardrails, and I think it's probably going to become worse with AI. I mean, think about deepfake videos that can essentially clone someone.

39:29That worries me, not only in terms of our domestic politics, but think about that internationally. If you have some deepfake video of a foreign adversary making a threatening message. That's happened already. You could literally spark a war. So this is something that is concerning. It happened to Abigail Spanberger, Governor Spanberger, the other day.

39:45Jake Tapper:Like, there was a fake AI video of her doing something. I forget what it was. I didn't even see that. Yeah. God. That goes to show you, though, Jake, just just where we're headed. Right. And look, I get from a national security perspective, you want to be ahead of the Chinese. You want to be ahead of the Russians. And certainly in that context, I think you should allow our Department of Defense to do what's necessary. But we have got to have some level of guardrails and safety measures in place to protect election integrity, et cetera. You know, it's going to get worse. Did you see the social media video, the AI video of this movie that doesn't exist of Tom Cruise fighting Brad Pitt?

40:20Yes.

40:21Jake Tapper:It looks so real and it is completely invented. They're like fighting about Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah. And to that point, it is only going to get worse. But the problem is that if you complain about it to these social media companies, they don't really do anything about it in this day and age because they don't want to sort of regulate speech or anything like that, even though it is false. We were just texting yesterday. I was tweeting about Kash Patel, and Mike Davis called me an anchor baby. I am not an anchor baby. I am a U.S. citizen, right? But this is the world we live in. It is the opportunity to get the clicks.

40:56That's what people care about.

40:57Jake Tapper:That's just racist. It's racist. It's absolutely. I am a U.S. citizen. That's like any time anybody refers to an African-American they don't like as a DEI hire. That's just. Yes. That's just. There's another letter I'm thinking of, and it's not DEI. Yeah. Anyway. Thank you, Sochi. Thank you, Sir Michael. Appreciate it. Coming up, when President Trump delivers his State of the Union address tonight, you might notice a few empty seats, Democrats boycotting. Up next, I'm going to talk to a Democratic senator who plans to a hand, even though many of her colleagues plan to skip it. Stay with us.

41:34Jake Tapper:Welcome to The Lead. I'm Jake Tapper. This hour, President Trump makes his final preparations for his State of the Union address tonight. What he told news anchors at the White House about his messages on the economy and Iran, I happen to be in the room and I can tell you a little bit, plus a million dollar reward. NBC's Today Show anchor Savannah Guthrie says her family will pay for information that brings back her 84-year-old mother, Nancy Guthrie. CNN is on the scene in Tucson. Also, there's pressure on one Republican to resign from Congress over disturbing allegations about an affair with a staffer who later committed suicide, what Congressman Tony Gonzalez is accused of, and who from his own party is calling for him to step down.

42:19Jake Tapper:The lead tonight, President Trump, is three hours from delivering his annual update to Congress. As is tradition, several anchors and reporters had the privilege of eating lunch with the president at the White House before the State of the Union so he could share with us off the record his thoughts on where the country's going, what he wants to say. He gave us a little bit on the record about some of what he's going to say tonight, including plans to advocate for reform of tax cuts, corporate and mostly personal, he said, and to announce deals with AI and tech firms for data centers that consume so much electricity from local communities.

42:53Jake Tapper:On the record, he said tonight's pitch would be that, quote, the country is about to have the best three years economically in the nation's history, and it's already started, unquote. And amid the massive U.S. military buildup and threat of conflict with Iran, the president said that Tehran wants to make a deal more than he does, but so far the Iranians have been unwilling to say explicitly the sacred phrase that they will not build nuclear weapons. It remains to be seen, of course, how much the president is willing to work with the lawmakers who are going to be sitting in front of them. He has said just this week he doesn't need them, even for things that the U.S.

43:26Jake Tapper:Constitution suggests is their responsibility, such as imposing tariffs or declaring a war. The president will be face-to-face with at least some of the Supreme Court justices who just a few days ago ruled that, yeah, he actually does need to work with Congress to impose a sweeping permanent tariffs regime. CNN chief White House correspondent, anchor of The Source, Caitlin Collins, is here. Caitlin, what is going on inside the White House right now, these final hours before the president's speech? Well, the president obviously looks over it. It's a long speech. We know the president - How long?

43:56Famously gives a long one. I would take the over if you're betting on one of the sites over it today. We'll see how long it goes. And also, if he goes off script in certain moments, President Biden did that as well when he was facing pushback from Republicans who were in the room when he was delivering his own addresses to Congress. So obviously, there's tweaks going on all the time throughout the day. The president was doing some practice with a lectern over the weekend. But this is not an unfamiliar venue for him. He's done this many times, obviously, in his first term. I think to watch tonight, one thing that we're going to be looking for is these speeches are long.

44:28They have a lot in them. Sometimes it's things that are key in that moment. Remember the Chinese spy balloon or the president talking about North Korea at one point. He talked about Doge last year, which obviously is not a thing anymore. And so I think one thing, though, tonight that is a through line that actually will be important and will matter in the months to come is how he tries to take back the narrative ahead of the midterm elections, because that is really what's been looming over the White House and what they have been hyper focused on, which is the economy, affordability, how voters believe the president is doing with the economy, which typically has been a stronghold of his.

45:00And so how he handles that tonight. And does he take the tack that he normally does, where when he's talking about the economy, he's talking about how much they've accomplished, which maybe is not how voters are feeling based on what we've seen in our own polls. How does he break through to them in that way? That is what the White House is going to be trying to do overall when tonight's speech is said and done.

45:19Jake Tapper:All right, Kaylin Conlon, it's Always great to have you here. Thank you so much. I spoke with the Republican senator in the last hour. Let's get the perspective of a Democratic senator who will be in the chamber tonight, ranking member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, New Hampshire Senator Gene Shaheen. Senator Shaheen, so good to see you. So Democratic leadership in the House has told members to behave or to skip the speech altogether. You guys are a little bit more mature in the Senate. You don't need a similar message, I assume. Well, I think people are going to go and listen to what the president has to say.

45:50I think it's an important oversight responsibility for us in the Senate. I also have a guest here, the executive director of the New Hampshire Food Bank, because we want to point out that the president hasn't been spending enough attention, paying enough attention to the cost of living that people are experiencing. My constituents are concerned about housing costs. They're concerned about the cost of food. They're concerned about the cost of child care. And they don't see any help in sight.

46:19Jake Tapper:Tell us about the food bank in New Hampshire. Has there been an increased number of people needing to use a food bank? I know during the government shutdown, there were a lot of government employees in the largest, longest rather, shutdown in history who felt the need to go to food banks. What's the situation in New Hampshire? Well, unfortunately, we're a small, even though we're a small state and we have a relatively high average annual income, what the food bank is seeing is more and more people who need help with food assistance. One in nine people in New Hampshire are food insecure, one in seven children.

46:57Last year, they gave out more food than ever in their history, 20 million pounds. They have 400 sites around the state. They do a great job, but unfortunately, people are being hit twice. They're being hit with the cuts to food programs that the Trump administration has put in place because of the reconciliation bill passed last year. And people are also experiencing the high costs of tariffs. The Congressional Budget Office says 95 percent of those tariff costs are being paid by consumers. that's about$1 ,600 per family. So people are feeling that and they're struggling.

47:40Jake Tapper:Earlier today, the president told a bunch of us reporters that he had lunch with on the record that Iran wants a deal more than he does, but they refuse to say the sacred phrase, we will not build a nuclear weapon. What's your response to that? Well, I would hope that the president would continue to negotiate with Iran, that I think diplomacy is a better alternative than bombing or strikes against the country. And so hopefully they will stay at the negotiating table. His buildup certainly has signaled to Iran that the Trump administration is serious about trying to get a deal. So hopefully they can work it out.

48:26Jake Tapper:The president set to devote part of the address to foreign policy, of course, today, today itself, marks four years since Russia had launched its full scale invasion of Ukraine. How much attention do you expect that conflict to get tonight? What would you like to see the president say? Well, I'd like to see the president finally put pressure on Vladimir Putin and Russia because they're the aggressor in this war. And Putin is not going to be serious about coming to the table. I was just in Munich for the Munich Security Conference. every leader I talked to said that they don't believe Putin is serious about negotiating, and he's not going to be serious until the president puts pressure on him, until we put sanctions in place.

49:06We need to shut down the shadow fleet, the oil that's funding Russia's war. We need to provide weapons and equipment so the Ukrainians can continue this fight, because they're actually, Russia is not winning this war. They are not going to win this war. And Donald Trump doesn't want to be on the losing side. He wants to have Putin come to the table and negotiate a peace deal, something he promised to do on day one when he was running for reelection.

49:34Jake Tapper:It's no secret that President Trump is frustrated with the Supreme Court's ruling on tariffs. You are the lead sponsor on a bill mandating refunds for those who paid the tariffs that the court struck down. Have any Republicans joined your bill? Well, not yet, but we're working on it. And the bill would focus on small business because large corporations are going to have the resources to to go after the federal government to try and get the reimbursement. Small businesses need help with that. We put a timeline in place for six months to do the refunds. And hopefully we're going to see the lower courts respond to the Supreme Court decision and say to the Trump administration, you have to pay back those tariffs that have been paid 95 percent by consumers, by businesses in this country.

50:29Jake Tapper:Democratic Senator Jean Shaheen from the live free or die state of New Hampshire. Thanks for joining us as always. Thank you. Coming up, I'm going to talk to one of President Trump's biggest allies about his mission tonight. Republican Senator Rick Scott will be here live. And later, Savannah Guthrie is again pleading for the public's help to find her mother, this time with a sizable reward if information leads to her mother's return.

51:03Jake Tapper:In our politics lead, President Trump just hours away from what may be his biggest audience in months before the crucial midterm elections later this year. In CNN's State of the Union evening poll, 57 % of the American people polled say they want President Trump to address a key issue that's become one of his second term's biggest weaknesses. That's the economy and cost of living. At a White House lunch today, the president told the network anchors assembled, quote, the country is about to have the best three years economically in the nation's history, and it's already started, unquote. He's going to try to make that pitch this evening.

51:35Jake Tapper:He may also take the opportunity to defend his controversial tariff policy after the Supreme Court struck it down last week. Joining us now, Republican Senator Rick Scott of Florida and his guest for the speech tonight, the chairman of O 'Leary Ventures and Shark Tank Judge Kevin O 'Leary. Thanks to both of you for being here. Senator, I want you to listen to how the president has talked about the current state of the economy in just the last week. We have a country that's now doing well. We have the greatest economy we've ever had. We have the most activity we've ever had. I'm making a speech tomorrow night, and you'll be hearing me say that.

52:09Do you notice what word have you not heard over the last two weeks? Affordability. because I've won. I've won affordability.

52:19Jake Tapper:Do you think that that is the right message the president should deliver tonight? Well, I think what he should talk about is what we've where we've what he's accomplished. But we still have work to do. You know, in their Biden years, we lost full time jobs every year. He's bringing full time jobs back. He's helping small businesses. The tax cuts that were passed last year are going to help our small businesses and help people. Inflation is down. Gas prices are down, but we still have work to do. Housing prices have got to come down. Healthcare costs have got to come down. I know the president's focused on that.

52:49I've talked to him about both of them. So I think what he can say is we're making progress. The Biden years were terrible for the country. High inflation. We lost full-time jobs. We've had good success the first year, but we have more to do.

53:00Jake Tapper:You're both very wealthy, comfortable, whatever word you want to use, individuals. And Mr. Leary, a lot of Democrats are going to say the economy is working for people like you and Senator Scott who are well off but the real issue if the press is can the president convince the middle-class Americans that the economy is good for everybody and not just the stock market the Nasdaq and the S &P what do you think well both of us believe in entrepreneurship and we have followed that dream ourselves I'm honored to be a guest of the senator because he is on a bipartisan basis supporting small business as I do we represent the American dream we're ambassadors to the American dream what What we're trying to do here is show people the path of American dream because that's what built this economy over the last 200 plus years.

53:49The number one export of America is not energy or technology. And the message will come out tonight, it's about the American dream. That's why we're here. That saves everybody and we never want to change that.

54:02Jake Tapper:So you have said that you would try to meet, Kevin, with White House staff at tonight's speech to talk about how your heads are getting squeezed over tariffs. Do you think the, this is to Kevin and then you Senator Scott, same question. Do you think that these tariffs that the Supreme Court just ruled against, but the President is going to try to bring back in various forms, are helping the American dream, are helping people, small businesses achieve the American dream? I have no problem with reciprocal tariffs. If a European country puts a 10 % VAT tax on, there's no reason we shouldn't have a reciprocal 10%.

54:35This decision by the Supreme Court, the only thing I'm asking staffers is to make sure that we support small business if there's going to be any refunds whatsoever. It's not fair if a giant S &P company has to sue the American government and a small business that I support can't afford to do that. It's got to be fair, whatever it is. We'll let the lower court decide, but it's got to support small business too. Senator? I think here's the problem we've got. Congress has been announced. They haven't done anything to try to make sure we protect American jobs. The president's using what power he believes he has to try to do that.

55:10We'll see what the lower court decides. But I agree with Kevin. We've got to do whatever we can to help our small businesses. Most all of the job creation in this country is small businesses. We need more jobs. I mean, look, Trump walked in with a horrible economy. We have got to figure out how to grow our small businesses and get more jobs.

55:28Jake Tapper:Senator, our CNN poll found that 61 % of the American people polled believe that President Trump's policies are leading the U.S. in the wrong direction. You're not up for reelection for quite some time. Are you worried about numbers like that when it comes to your party's hold of the House and Senate? Well, I think every election, you've got to tell people what you're going to do for them, tell people what you've done for them. You've got to solve the issues that people care about. I think the most important thing we should talk about is we have reduced taxes. We have no tax on tip, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security.

56:00We've reduced taxes for our businesses. So we've got to keep talking about that. And then what are we going to do on top of that? We have got to get jobs going. We've got to get inflation even lower. We've got to reduce the cost of living. So I think we've got our work cut out for us, but I think we're going to win in November.

56:16Jake Tapper:Kevin, what do you think that you want to hear when it comes to the president on the topic of the economy? What policies would you like to hear him talk about? You know, I always thought that the State of the Union is the compass of the next 12 months in terms of policy. And what I'm concerned about right now is energy. It is the source of growth of the economy. I want to hear some policy on that. Last year, China developed 511 gigawatts. And here, in North America, zero. Zero. So we've got to fix that because that's the baseline upon AI compute and everything else, and communities. You've got to have power to develop an economy.

56:52We're going to be promised that. And I'd love to hear some policy on what's going to happen for small business on these tariff refunds, if there are any.

56:59Jake Tapper:Senator, the president last month unveiled what he called the Great American Health Care Plan. There's been no vote on that yet. Should there be a timeline set? Yeah, we've got to get this done this year. We've got to do it as quickly as possible. I agree with the president. I've got to build a more affordable care act that says stop giving the money to insurance companies. Stop having government direct everything. Give it to individuals. Let them make their own choices. They'll make better choices. They'll decide what insurance they want. We've got to cover people with pre-existing conditions.

57:26I remember my mom struggling to get health care for my brother. We've got to get people health care, but they've got to be able to afford it.

57:33Jake Tapper:Senator, you sit on the Senate Armed Services and Foreign Relations Committees. tonight's address comes as the president has ordered this massive military buildup in the Middle East in the midst of these negotiations with Iran for them to end their nuclear weapons program. What would you like to see the president do? He told us at the lunch earlier today, and he said this part was on the record, that Iran wants to make a deal more than he does. I'm paraphrasing, but he said Iran refuses to say the sacred phrase that they will not make nuclear weapons. If they're not going to say that, what do you think the United States should do?

58:08Well, we've got to destroy their ability to make nuclear weapons. I mean, they said if they get nuclear weapons, they're going to destroy America and destroy our ally Israel. So we cannot let them do that. So it's clearly completely up to the Ayatollah. If he decides he wants to be, you know, bombed, he's making that choice and it's going to hurt his people. But he's making that choice, not Trump. Trump's saying he's going to protect America, which is exactly what I want our commander in chief to do.

58:34Jake Tapper:Kevin, I assume you have friends who are not only Republicans but Democrats, independents. Your friends that have been, you know, Trump curious, how are they feeling these days with the president under so much fire and his poll numbers sagging? My universe is with small entrepreneurs building businesses. They care about policy more than politics. They're struggling to survive, grow their market share, keep their employees, customers happy, borrow money, raise venture capital. That's an all-encompassing mandate for them. But they are the heart of the American economy. I want to remind everybody they create over 50 % of all jobs in America.

59:15These are companies 5 to 500 employees. Yes, they focus on day-to-day news issues, but at the end of the day, around the kitchen table, they're working their butts off. That's what they're doing.

59:27Jake Tapper:All right, Kevin O 'Leary, Mr. Wonderful, and Senator Rick Scott, Republican of Florida. Thanks to both of you. Appreciate it. Hope you enjoyed the speech tonight. Another big story we're following tonight, a million dollar plea for help. Savannah Guthrie and her family offering a new reward, up to$1 million for any information that leads to the return of their mother. We're going to go live to Arizona with new details in the case next.

59:52Jake Tapper:Back at our national lead, it's been more than three weeks since Nancy Guthrie vanished from her Tucson home in the middle of the night. Her daughter, NBC Today Show anchor Savannah Guthrie, has posted a new heartbreaking video just a few hours ago. Savannah acknowledging that her 84-year-old mother may be gone and that her family is now offering a million-dollar reward for her return. She may be lost. She may already be gone. She may have already gone home to the Lord that she loves. We need to know where she is. We need her to come home. For that reason, we are offering a family reward of up to$1 million for any information that leads us to her recovery.

1:00:43So please, if you hear this message, if you've been waiting and you haven't been sure, let this be your sign to please come forward.

1:00:54Jake Tapper:CNN's Ed Levandera joins us now from Tucson, Arizona, where the investigation continues. Ed, why make the offer now? Well, I think there's a couple of factors at play. We're told by a source close to the family that this was something the Guthrie family wanted to do very early on in the beginning stage of the investigation, that law enforcement officials cautioned them against it because there was already a flood of phone calls coming in. They didn't want to overwhelm the infrastructure of these call centers that were already adding staff to handle all the calls. But we were told in the last few days that the calls have started slowing down as more time has passed.

1:01:30So that could be something that is propelling them to put this video message out. And it's really also very striking, Jake, if you listen to the wording there from Savannah Guthrie, is that this is information leading to Nancy Guthrie's recovery. This isn't information leading to the arrest and conviction of somebody as often the rewards are couched in that way. This is simply just a plea to whoever knows where she might be to lead them in that direction so that they can just bring her home no matter how this story ends. They just want this nightmare to end.

1:02:02Jake Tapper:I'd love it, Derek. Keep us updated. Thank you so much. Joining us now to discuss CNN law enforcement analyst and former Secret Service agent Jonathan Wackrow. Jonathan, could this up-to-million-dollar reward bring Nancy Guthrie home one way or the other? Well, Jake, it could. You know, this message is really intended to drive actionable information that will lead to her recovery. And from a law enforcement perspective, this is really a classic pressure plus incentive construct, meaning that the high reward, and this is a significantly high reward now, We're going to be over$1.1 million in total reward money between the family and the FBI.

1:02:43That means that this reward is designed to prompt somebody within the suspect's orbit. So it's not the suspect themselves that the messaging is focused on. It's this broader orbit of associates, potentially friends, family, co-conspirators, really for them to break their silence. So this will definitely drive a new surge of tips. But as we just heard from Ed, you know, we have a problem here potentially with law enforcement lacking the infrastructure to take on this new surge of information.

1:03:14Jake Tapper:I want to get your reaction to it. So the Guthrie family wanted to offer a reward this big early on, and they were cautioned by law enforcement not to do so because they were already getting so much information. Does that make sense to you? And second of all, in your experience, are there people who have information and they're not willing to come forward for$100 ,000 reward, but they are willing to come forward for a million dollar reward? Does it sometimes work like that? Yes. Let me take the second part of your question first. Yes, absolutely. Going from$100 ,000 to$1 million is a significant shift.

1:03:48It makes the risk of disclosing potentially somebody that may be very close to you, a family member or a spouse who is involved in this. It makes that easier for them to make that make that disclosure and make the outreach to law enforcement. The fact that they have delayed raising this this reward amount and this is a reward from the family is a little bit shocking. Because in the moments of a disappearance, you want to put every resource available out there to try to get that information. Because in those first few hours, few days, this is about getting Nancy Guthrie back alive. And tragically, you've now heard a subtle tone shift from Savannah in her last message, is that this is shifting to acceptance of a whole variety or a multitude of outcomes.

1:04:44including the fact that she may now be deceased and they're looking for closure. So, again, it is a tactic. I would have expected that to be earlier on in this investigation, not midway through the fourth week, Jake.

1:04:56Jake Tapper:All right, Jonathan Wycroft, thank you so much. Appreciate it. And you out there, if you have any information that you think can help find Nancy Guthrie, please call the Pima County Sheriff's Department, 520-351-4900, or the FBI, 1-800-CALL-FBI. You can also reach the Bureau online at tips.fbi.gov. The stakes are not just high for President Trump tonight. Whenever he finishes his State of the Union address, Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger, just elected to that position, is going to deliver the Democratic response. I'm going to talk to the DNC chair about what to expect next.

1:05:32Jake Tapper:In our politics lead, Virginia Governor Abigail Spanberger, who was just elected in November, she's going to give the Democratic response to President Trump's speech tonight. Her star has been on the rise, especially since her 15-point landslide victory last year in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Representing the opposing party after a State of the Union address has a reputation as one of the most thankless tasks in American politics. You can ask former Minnesota Congresswoman Michelle Bachman or former Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal how much the gig did for their national profiles. Tonight we're going to get a look at the Democrats' message as they try to wrest back control of Congress from the GOP.

1:06:11Jake Tapper:Joining us now is the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Ken Martin. Ken, in your mind, what does Governor Spanberger have to accomplish tonight? Well, look, we have a historically unpopular president whose economic policies have just devastated this country. Some of the worst economic policies in over a generation, right, with record job loss, of course, increased costs for Americans,$2 ,100. dollars most American families are paying because of these tariffs. And so what Governor Spanberger is going to do is present what Democrats have been doing. As Washington is broken right now, it's Democratic governors and local elected officials who are actually delivering on the promises of making communities more safe and, of course, bringing down the costs and making things more affordable for people.

1:06:58And that's what you'll see out of Governor Spanberger, not only presenting a vision of what this administration has done to wreak havoc throughout the country, but to present a positive vision of what Democrats stand for, what Democrats are fighting for, and what we're doing to improve people's lives.

1:07:13Jake Tapper:Let's talk about that positive vision. When Newt Gingrich came up with the Republican Revolution in 1994, he came up with the Contract for America. And soon-to-be Speaker Pelosi did similar things in both times she was ultimately able to recapture the House for Democrats during the Bush years. And then, And I guess during the during the Trump years, I suppose. What's your pitch? What is what is the pitch of Democrats? Why should Democrats take back the House and Senate? What are you offering to the American people? Well, our pitch is very simple. Democrats believe that no matter where you live in this country, no matter where you're from, who you love or who you are, that you deserve an opportunity to actually get ahead and not just get by.

1:07:59Unfortunately, too many people are getting just getting by in this country. Everyone deserves an opportunity to climb the economic ladder, build a better life for their families. And what we're focused on is three things. We're focused on affordability, actually bringing down the cost of goods, actually increasing wages so people can actually afford their lives, making sure that they can afford the expensive costs of child care and, of course, the rising cost of housing right now, which are really pricing people out of buying their first home, making sure that we're focused on health care access in this country.

1:08:30after Donald Trump has increased health care premiums on millions of Americans, Democrats are focused on making sure that we actually are expanding out health care access in this country and not ripping health care away. And lastly, we're focused on fixing this corrupt and rigged system that only benefits those at the top, the wealthy, the well-connected and the billionaires at the expense of working people. We need to level the playing field and we need to push policies and we will push policies that actually give working people a chance to climb the economic ladder and build the life that they want.

1:09:01Jake Tapper:President Trump had an off-the-record lunch with some members of the press today. He talked about this part we were allowed to share with the public. He talked about a ratepayer protection plan for AI data centers. They're driving up electricity costs in the communities where they're built. I think that the tech firms are agreeing to pay for all that electricity they need. How do you think new incentives to lower costs will affect Democratic campaigns centered around affordability? Won't that help take that issue off the table, at least, for AI centers? Well, look, I mean, I think it's a step in the right direction, but we got a long ways to go as it relates to these data centers, right?

1:09:42We know they're going to be built. I'm glad that the president and tech companies are talking about who actually is paying for these. It shouldn't be the average consumer who's seen over the last year their utility rates just been soaring through the roof. We do need to bring down utility costs in this country. There's great anxiety over this as we've seen utility prices spiking in every part of the country. But we need to do more there. And we need to acknowledge that it's not just having the tech companies and others pay for these data centers, but that we actually build these in a safe way that protects the environment.

1:10:19at the same time creates jobs, good paying union jobs for people throughout the country. And I think, again, it's a step in the right direction, but it's just it's not enough.

1:10:28Jake Tapper:When it comes to foreign policy, I'm not sure what the Democrats message is. We have President Trump having led that effort to militarily take out the Iranian nuclear weapons program last June. He also ordered a military operation to take Nicolas Maduro from Venezuela. Does the Democratic Party support or oppose those two military operations? Well, what I would say in both Iran and in Venezuela, you have brutal regimes that are terrorizing people, of course, killing people indiscriminately. And we should respond. What that response looks like, though, should not be what we've seen so far through this administration, which is a very sort of callous, unstrategic response as it relates to Iran, which threatens, you know, certainly our regional stability in the Mideast and certainly peace in the Mideast.

1:11:23We have to figure out a path that's strategic, that's calculated, that considers all the risk here. And I believe the way the president's approaching this without, you know, consulting with congressional leaders and others is really dangerous. At the same time, we all acknowledge that we need to do something about what's happening in Iran and, of course, what happened in Venezuela. And so the Democrats will speak very loudly about this, where we agree with the president is we need to do something, but the way he's approaching it is short-sighted. It's not strategic.

1:11:55Jake Tapper:And at this point, it's unclear as to what his strategic objectives really are. Ken Martin, thanks so much. Appreciate it, sir. We're just hours away from the president's State of the Union address. The president has a challenge here to persuade Americans that the country is actually on the right track, even though a majority of Americans don't think so. Is the public going to buy it? Are their minds open? My political panel's coming up next.

1:12:21Jake Tapper:We're back in our politics lead-em-battled Texas Congressman Tony Gonzalez says he's not going anywhere despite many calls from Republican colleagues to resign in the face of allegations that he had an affair with a staffer who later died by suicide. Here is what Congressman Gonzalez told CNN's Manu Raju. just a few hours ago. I'm not going to resign. I work every day for the people of Texas. Did you carry it? And there will be an opportunity for all the details and facts to come out. What you've seen is not all the facts. Did you have an extramarital affair with the staff? What you've seen is not all the facts, and there'll be an ample time for all of that to come out.

1:13:00Jake Tapper:Kind of a simple yes or no question. The congressman did not address whether he sent sexually explicit text messages that appeared to show him pressuring the staffer to share images of herself. Congressman Gonzalez is set to meet later today with the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, who previously conceded that the allegations were, quote, very serious. Later today, former Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy told CBS News that he thought Congressman Gonzalez should step down. Speaker McCarthy joins a number of Gonzalez Republican colleagues calling for his resignation. Others say he should drop his re-election bid in Texas.

1:13:36Jake Tapper:Gonzalez is a week out from a difficult primary battle on March 3rd. Perspective now from former DNC Communications Director Karen Finney and former Chief of Staff to Vice President Mike Pence, Mark Short. Now, we should say that he has not been charged with anything. He is not facing any criminal allegations. He is facing allegations that he had an affair, an inappropriate relationship with a staffer. He says there's more to the story than that. and then she tragically took her own life. And I guess if the charges are true, it's gross and awful. But where do you draw the line if somebody has not been criminally charged with anything?

1:14:17Well, look, because this is happening in the context of an election and a primary, he's going to have to decide what do his voters need to hear in order to have confidence in him and re-elect him. I mean, I think that's a political question as much as it's a legal question, frankly, at this point. And I would think that part of what folks in the Capitol are thinking about is in the era of the Epstein files, where there is this perception that, and some reports suggest reality, that things are being hidden, right? There's not the transparency we would like to see. You do not want to be on the side of anything other than full transparency and making sure that the record is clear in terms of what did happen.

1:14:57He says there's more to it. Well, then what's the legal process? What did happen? What's that investigation going to show? It's kind of interesting that two of the Republicans who represent the same state as him, Texas, Brendan Gill, and another, who's the one I'm thinking?

1:15:13Jake Tapper:Chip Roy? Chip Roy, yes. Sorry. Brain fart. That Chip Roy, Brendan Gill, are not calling him to step down, but calling him to jump out of the reelection race. And there's a strong House Freedom Caucus, more conservative guy there. You used to work for Mike Pence, so this was never a part of your job. But what do you think? I don't think it's that complicated. I think you should step down. Why? Because I think there's a different standard. Our standard shouldn't be a criminal prosecution, Jake. These are members elected to represent us, the United States government, in the halls of Congress. There should be a standard here.

1:15:46And there was a time not too long ago that there would have been that standard enforced regardless of party. I think it's hard to look at this and say that the dynamics are not influenced by the fact that there's a one-seat majority inside the Republican Party. And, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if we get till mid-March and Marjorie Taylor Green's seat is filled, that all of a sudden the pressure does build because then the margin is two. But I think that I don't think this needs to be that complicated. I don't think it needs to be whether there's a threshold of criminal prosecution. You're representing American citizens in the halls of Congress.

1:16:16This sort of conduct should not be accepted. Assuming it's true. I think there's enough that's already come out that it's true. I don't think he's questioning it. He's saying there's more to the story, but I don't think there's really questioning what has already come out.

1:16:26Jake Tapper:Do you think, just jumping off the point that Mark just made, if Republicans had a 40-vote majority, that we would even be having this conversation? Because the theory being, like, they can afford to lose a seat, therefore the pressure would just be like, get out of here, like you're a distraction. Sure. Because, again, yeah, in part because in the era of the Epstein files where we have no trans, not enough transparency, it would be an easier political position to take to be on the side of transparency. Because, you know, we all like to be on they all like to be on the right side. Certain issues.

1:17:03Jake Tapper:Now, Speaker Johnson, he didn't call when there was the vote to expel George Santos before he had been convicted of a crime. He didn't he didn't support it. And his argument was you have to wait until there is a conviction. You can't just go by indictments. There are you know, you can get an indictment against a ham sandwich, except for perhaps today's DOJ. That's a separate discussion, though. But but what you don't you don't buy that as a standard. Again, I don't. I think that's not the right standard. This is not a criminal prosecution. I don't think this is, you know, again, I've made the point about it being a one-seat majority, but I don't think that's unique to Republicans.

1:17:39I think Democrats have had the same position in the past, and they've defended people who've had incredibly poor choice in this sort of character. So it's not a partisan issue. I just think it's a matter of standards. I think for members of elected government, that's not where we should be.

1:17:51Jake Tapper:Long before former Congressman Anthony Weiner broke the law, Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats did, no, they had a bigger majority, but they did boot him out because of embarrassing messages. I know it's a long time ago, Jake, but we had a president of the United States, a Democrat party, having oral sexual favors from an intern, and all the Democrats in Congress stood beside him. So this is not like Republican. I wouldn't say it. It was mixed. Come on. Okay, so all the Republicans in Congress are standing by the president. How many laws has he broken? Is that our new standard? I'm sitting here saying that this guy should be forced out.

1:18:24Yeah. Okay, fine. You've convinced me. He should be out.

1:18:27Jake Tapper:But the same standard for Democrats, though. I mean, like, you know, sexual impropriety, you're sleeping with a staffer. Like, what is the line? Is it he's having an affair, he's seeing his wife, or it's he's having an affair with somebody he works for, or he's having an affair with somebody he works for and it turned incredibly tragic? No, look, I think if you're in a position of power over someone where their power dynamic is not appropriate, you should step down if it is proven. I do think we, and I'm not saying, I don't know enough to be perfectly honest about this dynamic between these two.

1:18:56I certainly think it's very troubling. If it's true, if it's factual, then absolutely you should step down. I think you should get the chance to prove your case. But if it's true, you're out.

1:19:06Jake Tapper:Agreement. All right. Karen Finney, Mark Shore, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Coming up next, the president's special guests, the Skutniks at the State of the Union tonight. I'll explain what a Skutnik is next.

1:19:22Jake Tapper:Our last lead starts with our law and justice lead. where today a judge declined to dismiss prosecutors from the case against alleged Charlie Kirk shooter Tyler Robinson. A Utah County prosecutor's office will be allowed to continue building its death penalty case. Robinson's attorney asked for the office to be recused because a lead prosecutor's child had been at the event where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. The judge ruled the child's attendance did not materially influence prosecutors' actions. This comes as we're learning. Kirk's widow, Erica, will attend tonight's State of the Union Address as one of President Trump's special guests, or Skutniks, named after Lenny Skutnik, who was President Reagan's special guest in 1982.

1:20:03Jake Tapper:In our sports lead, members of the U.S. men's Olympic hockey team have arrived in D.C. for the President's State of the Union Address after their historic gold medal win against Canada in overtime. The team traveled to D.C. on a government plane after the president invited them to visit following their victory Sunday. A short time ago, the players visited the White House and met with the president in the Oval Office. You can follow me on Facebook, Instagram, ThreadsBlueSkyX, and on the TikTok of Jake Tapper. You can follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead CNN. If you ever miss an episode of the show, you can watch the show on our CNN app.

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