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Episode Summary
Episode Title
Sean “Diddy” Combs Sentenced To 50 Months In Prison
Episode Overview
- The episode discusses the sentencing of music mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs to 50 months in prison after being convicted on two federal felony charges related to engaging in prostitution.
- The federal government shutdown is also covered, now in its third day, with implications for the U.S. economy.
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Key Segments
Sean "Diddy" Combs Sentencing
- Sentencing Details:
- Combs was sentenced to 50 months (4 years and 2 months) in prison and fined $500,000.
- He was found guilty by a jury in July on charges of transportation to engage in prostitution but was acquitted of more serious charges like sex trafficking and racketeering.
- Judge's Rationale:
- The judge highlighted the influence of Combs' wealth and resources in the commission of the crimes.
- Statements from the judge emphasized the suffering of victims and the need for accountability in cases of domestic violence.
- Emotional Courtroom Moments:
- Combs displayed emotion while watching a family video prior to sentencing and apologized to his children and mother in court.
- His acknowledgment of the victims' bravery was noted, and the judge sent a message to other victims of domestic violence.
- Legal Commentary:
- CNN legal analysts discussed the disparity between the prosecution's recommended sentence and what was ultimately given, with insights into the implications of the case and its significance in the context of federal sentencing.
Federal Government Shutdown
- The government shutdown is ongoing with no clear resolution, impacting federal workers who are not being paid.
- Senate Negotiations:
- Failed attempts to pass stopgap funding bills amid partisan disagreements.
- Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer expressed frustration over the Republicans’ handling of the situation and the impact on American workers.
- Republican Perspectives:
- Congressman Don Bacon criticized the situation, saying the shutdown is not the fault of federal workers and emphasized the need for serious negotiations.
International Affairs
- Hamas and U.S. Relations:
- Hamas agreed to negotiate hostage releases following President Trump’s ultimatum regarding a peace plan.
- Analysts discussed the potential impact of this development on U.S. and Israeli relations.
- Drug Trafficking Issues:
- The U.S. military’s actions against drug trafficking boats off the coast of Venezuela were highlighted, paralleling Trump's harsh rhetoric towards drug cartels being labeled as terrorists.
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Key Takeaways
- Diddy Combs' Sentencing: A significant moment highlighting accountability in cases of domestic violence, with the court's decision intended as a deterrent to similar abuses.
- Ongoing Government Shutdown: A critical issue affecting thousands of federal employees, indicating deep political divides in Congress and the impact on American citizens.
- International Relations: Hamas's willingness to negotiate and the U.S. military's actions against drug cartels emphasize the complex dynamics of U.S. foreign policy.
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Final Thoughts This episode of *The Lead with Jake Tapper* sheds light on significant legal and political issues currently facing the U.S., from high-profile criminal cases to the pressing impact of government shutdowns on everyday Americans. The discussions underscore the importance of accountability, political responsibility, and the implications of U.S. foreign policy decisions. ```
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01This is CNN Breaking News. Welcome to The Lead. I'm Jake Tapper and we start with the breaking news in the Law and Justice Lead. It is Judgment Day for music producer Sean Diddy Combs, who just moments ago was sentenced to 50 months, that's four years and two months, in prison. He was also fined the maximum fine of a half million dollars. You will recall back in July, a jury found Combs guilty on two federal felony charges of transportation to engage in prostitution. Jurors acquitted Combs, however, of the more serious charges of sex trafficking and racketeering. Let's go straight out to CNN anchor and chief legal analyst Laura Coates, who's outside the courthouse.
0:42We should note that CNN's Elizabeth Wagmeister was inside court and is making her way to our cameras. Laura, the prosecution wanted a harsher sentence and defense wanted time served. What did the judge say about arriving at this 50-month sentence? The judge arrived at 50 months not pleasing either the defense or the prosecution, who had a very big disparity from what they wanted. The key issue all along for sentencing was whether he was going to take into consideration the so-called acquitted behavior, specifically violence. Why I say acquitted behavior is, as you know, he was found not guilty of the more serious charges of RICO racketeering and, of course, sex trafficking.
1:25The sex trafficking component had a force, a violence or a fraud component actually they had to consider. The defense said because he was acquitted of those charges, that meant that fraud and violence and force was not being considered or should be considered when it came to the transportation to engage in prostitution claims. Well, the judge said no. He factored in the manner in which the crimes occurred, manner in which he was convicted of those charges. He also pointed to the duration of these so-called freak apps and hotel nights. I don't mean the length per session, but the overall time period for which he's occurred and the vast resources available to him.
2:07He used words like subjugation and, of course, the powerlessness of the women who testified about their experiences, including, of course, Cassie Ventura and the pseudonym Jane, Both of whom Sean Diddy Combs directly apologized to and addressed in his opportunity to speak today before he was ultimately sentenced by this judge. Also adds that a half a million dollar fine,$500 ,000 included here as well. But remember, he has been in jail waiting for a sentence and waiting for the trial. That can be applied to that overall sentence. He'll also have to have sort of anger management, domestic violence intervention programs as well, mental health issues related that were also detailed in the pre-sentence report, as well as what happened by the judge.
2:57On her way over here is Elizabeth Wagmeister, who, as you know, has been so pivotal in securing the coverage about the intercontinental hotel footage that we all saw across the entire globe. but it had a very interesting role here in the judge's talk. The judge referencing the visible scars, the gashes, the violence that was on display. Sean Combs also referencing the video that the world saw to apologize to domestic violence victims all across the globe who were most assuredly triggered by what they had seen. Now, that all came into play when the judge actually, in his words and in handing down the sentence, talked about the violence, talked about the women who came forward, the pride of their families and their bravery.
3:48All of that really factored in here. But I want you to have a sense when you talk to Elizabeth Wagmeister of what it was like in that courtroom to hear his children speaking, most of whom were sobbing in each other's arms, trying to get the words out, begging for their father to return home so they would not be fatherless. and, of course, Sean Combs turning at one point. Jakey turned to his children, apologized to them each by name, grabbed his hair as he apologized to his mother as well, and said that he had failed her as a son. A very emotional moment that drew some emotional reactions in the courtroom as well.
4:29But, you know, I want you to understand, Jake, that what we saw today is so atypical in the federal sentence. I mean, this began at 10 a.m. Here we are after 5 p.m. Normally, a federal sentence is done in about an hour or two. Why? Because all of the paperwork has been filed. The judge has read through, in this case, the hundreds of pages, hundreds of pages from victim impact statements, from the pre-sentence report, and, of course, from the defense and the prosecution. I want to bring in Elizabeth Wagmeister, who has been inside that courtroom and covering this case from the very inception and, of course, that consequential video of the Intercontinental Hotel.
5:09Tell me what you saw when that sentence was handed down. You know, Laura, it was a very emotional day. As you said, we were in there for hours since 10 a.m., which is very atypical for a sentencing. But in a strange way, the actual sentencing, when the judge came down and said 50 months, was one of the least emotional moments. Sean Combs was quite stoic. At the end, when he stood up to exit the courtroom, he looked at his family, made a gesture that made it seem like it'll all be okay. But it was earlier in the day when he spoke that he was crying, saying, I failed you as a father to his children, saying to his mother, you raised me better than this.
5:51But what really stood out to me is something that you just mentioned, Laura, which is the judge made a very big point to talk about domestic violence. I want to read you a few of his quotes, but I'm just going through my notebook here right now. But he spoke directly to Cassie Ventura, directly to Jane, and he said, quote, I am proud of you for coming to the court to tell the truth of what happened to you. He spoke about how the number of women around the world that they have reached is, you can't even put a number on it. And he said that he did want to send a message to victims of domestic violence.
6:28At one point, he said to Sean Combs, a substantial sentence must be sent to abusers and victims because victims need to see that them coming forward can result in real accountability. He called both Cassie and Jane credible with their testimony. He said they absolutely are victims. He said, I am not buying what the defense is putting forth, which is these were consensual relationships gone wrong, toxic relationships. So he was very compassionate for the women. While also, I will point out, final note, is that at the end, he did say to Sean Combs, you have the chance to make a real difference. This is hard time in jail.
7:10He used those words, hard time. You will be away from your family. But you can help others. And he said, all of us have a voice. But Mr. Combs, you have a megaphone. Use that and change the world. Fascinating stuff. All right, Laura Coates and Elizabeth Wagmeister, excellent work to both of you. Thank you so much. Let's bring in CNN legal analyst and criminal defense attorney Joey Jackson. So, Joey, the judge said the government request of more than 11 years was not reasonable and also said that the defense proposal of 14 months time served insufficient. What do you think? What I think, Jake, is that you have to put everything in perspective.
7:46And when you put everything in perspective, thinking about how this case began as a racketeering case, wherein he could have spent the rest of his life in jail, a charge for which he was acquitted, thinking about how racketeering not only takes away your liberty, but could have indeed unraveled everything because of asset forfeiture, taking away all of your money. And then you go to that from the fact that he was only convicted of the two counts, very significant, of course, to transportation for prostitution. And then you come to today with regard to what the judge is doing, considering punishment, deterrence and rehabilitation.
8:18And no matter how you slice this, this is a big day. And obviously there are no winners. There are victims here who are railing over this, of course. We need to be sensitive to that. But from all things measured, I think this is a big victory for the defense. He got four years. Prosecutors wanted 11. More perspective. The United States Department of Probation had put together their recommendations, noted that five to seven would be appropriate. So the judge even went down below that. More perspective. Yes, there's a half a million dollar fine. And considering you should have and could have lost an a billion dollar empire, five hundred thousand dollars compared to that is wholly significant.
8:56And so, yes, the judge had strong words, as he should have, talking about the victimization that he engaged in and how he got away with it because he could and how he abused and manipulated. But at the end of the day, the sentence in keeping with the federal guidelines and in keeping with what he was actually convicted of was appropriate and fair under all circumstances. I want to play just a small part of a nearly 12-minute documentary-style video that the Combs defense team played in court. From New York. I love New York. I love the city of New York. I love the children of New York. I wanted to do something good.
9:32I wanted to get my generation and the hip-hop community behind us. They've come through in a big way, and we wanted to raise some money for the children of New York City for health and education. Do you think this was Diddy's team trying to make some kind of public appeal ahead of his eventual release, not even necessarily focused on anything else? So you can argue that, Jake. You can also look at the fact that under the sentencing guidelines and under what a judge must consider, you have to consider the past history and characteristics of the defendant. From a prosecution's perspective, he's a person that can't be trusted, a person who abused and manipulated.
10:08From the defense's perspective, that history includes charity. It includes being an icon to the community. It includes doing things much larger and significant than his worst day and his worst foray, which was this case. And so they put it together in order to give the judge, again, I've said it a lot, perspective with regard to who he is and what he's done. And I think clearly it had an impact with respect to the 50-month sentence that was ultimately imposed, Jake. All right, Joey Jackson, thanks so much. We're going to wait to see if we hear from the attorneys outside the courtroom. We'll bring that to you.
10:38There's also breaking news in our world lead. The terrorist group Hamas responding to an ultimatum from President Trump threatening all hell if the group did not agree to his peace plan proposal. We're going to have more on that next.
11:00breaking news in our worldly just moments ago a response from the terrorist group hamas to president trump's ultimatum he gave the group until sunday at 6 p.m eastern time to agree to his 20 point plan for peace with israel that response is now with mediators if no deal is reached, President Trump threatened, quote, all hell, like no one has ever seen before, will break out against Hamas, unquote. Hamas has announced it will agree to immediately enter negotiations for release of all hostages under Trump's proposal, adding, quote, by providing the necessary field conditions for the exchange process, unquote.
11:38Before this announcement, President Trump's post also urged, quote, all innocent Palestinians immediately leave this area of potentially great future death for safer parts of Gaza, unquote. He was not specific about how they should leave or which parts of Gaza are safer than others. Let's bring in Barack Ravid, a political and global affairs analyst for CNN. He also writes for Axios. Barack, you're so well-sourced in what leaders are saying in the Middle East. 6 p.m. Sunday, it's about 48 hours away. The response from Hamas seems significant on its own. Does this feel different than other previous attempts at peace here?
12:16Jake, I think we just have a dramatic statement from President Trump just right now. Listen to what he just said in a post on True Social. President Trump says, based on the statement just issued by Hamas, I believe they are ready for lasting peace. President Trump continues and writes, Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza so that we can get the hostages out safely and quickly. Right now, it's far too dangerous to do that. President Trump continues and says, we are already in discussions on details to be worked out. This is not about Gaza alone. This is about long sought peace in the Middle East.
12:54Jake, this is super dramatic. President Trump calls on Israel to stop the war immediately after Hamas responds with a yes but to his proposal. I think this is a point we haven't been in since October 7th. And definitely we haven't been in since January 20th when President Trump came back to office. It seems momentous. It seems potentially huge. I do wonder, it does seem like the sticking point about whether Hamas will play any role in the future of Gaza is one that that really there can't be any compromise ever made on. Even the Arab League has been saying Hamas can't be part of the future. And Hamas has not agreed to that.
13:39But you think that they will be able to ultimately get past that? I think that at the moment, to be honest, I think it doesn't matter. I think what President Trump just said, calling on Israel to stop the bombing of Gaza so that a hostage release and an exchange of prisoners could be implemented, I think is the most important thing. It basically means that President Trump accepts Hamas's response as a positive response. And I think this is super dramatic because it paves the way for the release of hostages and for the end of the war. So you noted, you reported that President Trump told Netanyahu, I think on Sunday, that he needed to get on board with this peace proposal, or it would be a dramatic shift in U.S.
14:36foreign policy, right? Tell us more about that. I think the shift is happening in front of our eyes right now. I think we are witnessing the shift right now. The question is whether Prime Minister Netanyahu will get with the program or not. And if he doesn't get with the program, there's going to be problems between him and President Trump. Big problems. Is he willing to take on the extreme right wing zealots in his cabinet who don't want any peace, who want to annex Gaza, the Ben Gavirs, the Smotriches of there? Is Netanyahu willing to side with Trump over them because their opposition could mean his government falls apart?
15:18Well, you know, Benjamin Netanyahu will have election in the next year. I think most likely at the beginning of 2026. Benjamin Netanyahu's political situation is not good, to say the least. he will not be able to win an election if he is in a confrontation with Donald Trump because Donald Trump is the most popular politician in Israel at the moment and I don't see that changing. So Netanyahu needs Trump. He cannot move without Trump. He's totally dependent on Trump and therefore if President Trump tells him that he needs to stop the war he will have no opportunities but to stop the war or risk an all-out confrontation with Donald Trump.
16:03Well, let us hope that this is actually a final step out of this horrific, horrific war. Barak Ravid, thank you so much. Joining us now, Atlantic Council Senior Fellow Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib. Did I pronounce that correctly? You sure did. Oh, great. Okay, thank you so much. I've read your name so many times. I've never said it out loud. He grew up in Gaza. He's an outspoken critic of both Hamas and Netanyahu. I think that's a fair characterization. Certainly. What's your response to all this? Hamas saying, basically, we're on board with this proposal. It sounds like there might be a couple little things, but Trump taking it as a we're accepting it.
16:36We're accepting this as a positive news. Netanyahu stopped the bombing now. I have to say I'm positively surprised by President Trump's reaction to Hamas. This is very much so what I predicted all along, that there would be a yes, but by the organization. After all, they don't really control a lot of the command and control structure in Gaza. You have the leadership abroad. You have the guys with the guns on the ground who have to make the ultimate call and decisions. I think this is a pragmatic first step to getting the Israeli hostages out. I'm desperate to see what remains of my family, my community, my people have a shot at a new future, a new hope.
17:17I am very concerned, nevertheless, that Hamas may use the lack of precision in what they've agreed to, to maybe maintain some level of control and reign and try to reign without ruling directly. And that would present all sorts of other problems. But in the immediate future, I believe this could be a very welcome reprieve from the horror we've witnessed over the last two years. Let's hope so. One of the sticking points seems to be that Hamas will not agree to not being part of any future state of Palestine. They want to be part of it. They insist they must be. The Arab League doesn't want it. Obviously, the Europeans and the Americans don't want it.
18:03What do the Palestinians want? Well, contrary to popular belief, Hamas is actually extremely deeply unpopular in the Gaza Strip. and some of that precedes October 7th. Some of that is due to the group's behavior since the horrendous massacre on that fateful day. And so if Hamas really wants to remain relevant in the Palestinian street, it can no longer rely on the armed resistance narrative. It can no longer rely on holding the Palestinian people hostage against their will in Gaza, sealing their resources, diverting aid and money towards vanity resistance projects like the tunnels and rockets.
18:41And so Hamas would not only have to reform, but have to actually present a nation building agenda away from the armed resistance agenda that it has relied on for three decades. And what do we need to see? Like you and I are old enough to have to be cautious about any optimism we feel in our hearts about peace in this region. I could go back and name all the moments where it felt like peace might have been at hand. What are like three things you want to see happen? I'll throw out one of my own. I would like to see not just the Europeans, but the Arab world volunteer not just not just to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza, but also to volunteer to help govern, at least in the short term term.
19:23What would you like to see? Well, certainly. And I've actually been in contact with several parties over the last couple of years, and that includes Mr. Tony Blair. And one of the things he had talked about when I met him was that how Gaza needs to be reconstituted, not just rebuilt. And I agree with that sentiment. We don't just need to rebuild the destroyed refugee camps. We want to build a city of the future. We want to build something compelling. So a new and reimagined Gaza, where it's the actual homeland of our people, not just temporary refugee space. So that's one. Two is the pragmatic evolution of the peace narrative.
20:01Peace is courageous. Peace is necessary for the evolution of the Palestinian people into becoming the best version of themselves. And so I want to see an evolution in that sense. I want to see the adoption of multiple truths, the rejection of violence. And then finally, I want to see Gaza being regionally integrated. I want to see Gaza being opened up so that my people can travel. Seventy percent of Gazans have never left the coastal enclave. And so if you open it up, you let people come in and out, commerce, connectivity, beyond just Israel and Egypt, where Gaza squeezed in, I believe we could see the seeds for Gaza becoming a role model for successful Palestinian self-governance and what an occupation-free West Bank could look like.
20:46From your mouth to God's ears. Thank you so much. Inshallah. Thank you so much for being here. Really appreciate it. Ahmed, Fahouda Khatib. Thank you so much. As if there weren't enough going on today, don't forget that government shutdown. We're now on day three. I'm going to speak with the Senate Minority Leader, Democrat Chuck Schumer, about where those negotiations stand. That's next.
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22:29And our politics lead, no clear end in sight for the federal government shutdown now on day three. Today, votes for both the Republican and Democratic stopgap funding bills failing once again on the floor of the U.S. Senate, as was expected. And with no vote scheduled this weekend and the House out of town, the shutdown is expected to last at least until next week. And joining me now, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York. Senator Schumer, Leader Schumer, thanks for joining us. The White House press secretary earlier today said that the president is not directly involved in any conversations to end the shutdown, but that some Republican senators are speaking with Democrats.
23:08What is the status of negotiations right now? Well, first, we received another blow when the House, Speaker Johnson, said the House isn't going to be in session next week. They seem to care more about protecting the Epstein files than protecting the American people and their health care. But even more outrageous is the fact that they're going home and they're getting paid. And what about the millions of federal workers who aren't getting paid? The people cleaning the cafeterias, the people in the air traffic control towers, the people who run the national parks. And it takes a lot of nerve for Johnson to tell the House to go home when they get paid and all these people don't.
23:49It also shows that it's Johnson who seems to be the main focal point of wanting a shutdown, because if you didn't want a shutdown, you'd come and stay and negotiate with us. That's what we've been asking them to do. Here in the Senate, Jake, they tried the same play with the same result. They didn't have the votes. They didn't have the votes today. They didn't have the votes the three other times. And so, again, the Senate ought to sit down and negotiate. There are some Senate Democrats, I've encouraged them, sitting down with some Senate Republicans. But so far, they haven't come to an agreement.
24:23And according to the Senate Democrats, the Senate Republicans offered them virtually nothing new. So obviously, we were here six months ago, and you voted to keep the government open back then. And you seem to be against at the time of using a shutdown as a tactical move. I want to play some of what you said in March of this year, the last time the issue was up for debate, and then get your reaction. Sure. I have said many times there are no winners in a government shutdown. As bad as passing the CR is, as I said, allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.
25:03Therefore, I will vote to keep the government open. Now, obviously, back then there was a shorter timeline at hand, but isn't the outcome the same? I mean, President Trump is threatening a host of federal firings. He's already frozen billions in funding to New York, your state and other blue states. Yeah. Well, look, there's a lot of difference between now and then. Back then, we wanted to see what they would do. And we've seen how horrible they are. The horrible health care cuts that they made were made in June in their so-called big, beautiful bill. Trump even now says they want to change the name.
25:39They're so embarrassed about it, and they hadn't started doing these technical things called rescissions, which lets them undo the budget on their own unilaterally. So the times are different, and we don't want a shutdown, that's for sure. And there's a simple way to deal with it. For the Republicans, we've been asking them for months to sit down and talk with us. They've refused and refused and refused. They should sit down and negotiate, and we can get something done. For the American people, you know, there are two issues here. the shutdown and helping the American people. Democrats feel we can avoid the shutdown and help the American people.
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26:18The Republicans don't seem to want to do that. So Republicans are obviously, their talking point is that Democrats want to give health care to illegal immigrants. Now, the Trump administration, when I asked them, what are you talking about? They said they're referring to this section in the Democratic Stop Gap funding proposal. It would repeal the section of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act that addresses Medicaid, specifically one provision, reduced federal reimbursement for emergency Medicaid for hospitals. And some of that obviously goes to people who don't have insurance, including undocumented immigrants.
26:50Jake, it's all a lot of bull. Not a single federal dollar, not a single federal dollar goes to undocumented immigrants. Not for Medicare, not for Medicaid, not for ACA. Why are they making up this lie? It's a typical Republican thing. They don't want to talk about the pain the American people are in, are going to be in, because of these cuts. You know, the average family, a couple of 55 years old who makes$85 ,000, will get a$25 ,000 a year cut. Imagine them sitting down at the kitchen table one night and saying, we're about to retire, we've worked hard our whole lives. How the hell are we going to afford$25 ,000, but how the hell are we going to live without health insurance?
27:34But that's what they're doing. It's cruel. It's mean. They're in a bubble. Twenty-four million Americans will have their rates raised by close to$1 ,000, and they're going to start getting these notices in the next week or two. You know, John Thune cavalierly says, let's do it in Thanksgiving. Well, if they can't do it now, and by the way, they voted against it three times when Jeanne Shaheen tried to put these bills on the floor. How the heck are they going to do it later? So this is a lot. It's a cover-up from them. It's bull. And that's because they're afraid to debate the issue because they know, listen to this, a new survey from, I think it is Kaiser Health, 79 % of Americans want us to renew, to extend the healthcare premiums, the ACA premiums.
28:2158 % of Trump voters want it. So they know they're in a pickle. Now, one of the problems is they don't know where Trump is. When I was at, you asked about Trump before. When I was at the White House, Trump said different things, but seemed not to be aware of how bad this is. And, you know, nobody reads the polls better than Donald Trump. He's going to see these polls. But are you disputing that the addition of the money, the emergency Medicaid money to hospitals, that none of that goes to undocumented immigrants? I mean, I thought it was brief. No federal dollar is allowed by law to go to undocumented immigrants.
28:56It's been on that. And they just came up with this recently because they're afraid to talk about the merits. Oh, let me ask you, because this is just in and I know you have to go. Hamas has just announced that it agrees to immediately enter negotiations for the release of hostages under President Trump's Gaza proposal based on the exchange formula and providing the necessary conditions. Obviously, it's early yet when it comes to this, but it is some breaking news. What was your reaction to that news? Well, I've always said our goal should be to bring the hostages home and have a good ceasefire, a strong, lasting ceasefire.
29:32This proposal seems to be a step in the right direction, but we need two things. We need to see the details. I haven't seen them yet. And second, then Trump needs to get it done. He has a penchant for announcing things before they get done. All right, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrat of New York, thank you so much, sir. Good to see you, Jake. Bye-bye. As soon as this shutdown started, the Trump administration started yanking funding for various issues, and all of the cities and states impacted have one major commonality. We're going to tell you what that is next.
30:11Back with our politics lead, President Trump is freezing billions of dollars in federal funding for Democratic-leaning cities and states, with Chicago and New York City topping the list of targets as this partisan standoff over the government shutdown continues in Washington, D.C. CNN's Tom Foreman takes a look at the projects on the chopping block and the ongoing pressure campaign really unprecedented from the White House. In the windy city of Chicago,$2.1 billion in federal funding for transit has been blown away by the White House, according to the Illinois governor, hurting our economy and the hardworking people.
30:52In New York,$18 billion federal dollars have been frozen for transportation projects. Amid all that, President Trump posted this video. Here comes the reaper. Betraying his budget boss, Russell Vogt, as the Grim Reaper, who, like Trump, wants to pressure Democratic lawmakers from blue strongholds to end the budget stalemate that triggered the government shutdown. We're not going to be held hostage to these kinds of insane, ridiculous demands by the Democrats. One of the administration's tools for removing all that money is the idea that some of it might be spent to promote race and sex-based contracting, DEI programs that the White House has forbidden.
31:37But the administration has also canceled what it calls nearly$8 billion in Green News scam funding, hammering 16 states, all of which Trump lost in the last presidential race. We're going to count on energy imports. The Secretary of Energy suggests red states may be involved as well, and he's just saving money. These cancellation decisions are absolutely not tied to the government shutdown. Yet hundreds of millions in disaster preparedness grants are being withheld too. The White House is demanding states recount their populations in the wake of aggressive deportations so the distributions can be adjusted.
32:14That move came just hours after a federal court put a temporary block on efforts to divert FEMA funds largely away from Democratic-led states. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson says the president just wants the government running again. And is he trying to apply pressure to make that happen? He probably is, yeah, and I applaud that. But Democrats say Republicans' strong-arm tactics will not work. They need to come to the table. We can go back to the White House. Well, they can come up here and we can have a conversation to end this shutdown. They're hurting the American people. Part of the irony in this is that Democrats are saying many of the steps they're trying to take to solve this insurance issue will actually help a huge number of people in red states, in Republican areas, while the Republicans are trying to punish them.
33:06All right, Tom Foreman, thanks so much. The man widely seen as architect of the shutdown. Remember the name Russ Vogt? How much sway does this man actually have? We're going to talk about that next.
33:21And we're back with our politics lead. President Trump's shutdown plan seemed to hinge on the opinion of his director of the Office of Management and Budget. He's a guy named Russ Vogt of Project 2025 fame. Trump reminded us in a post on Truth Social, you know, in case his name sounded familiar. My panel's here. First of all, let me just also remind people that President Trump claimed during the campaign that he had nothing to do with Project 2025. He has no idea what it is. A lot of it's now been implemented. And Russ Vogt is the guy that brought Project 2025 to fruition, and he's doing it now.
33:53Well, I guess he thinks it serves him now. I mean, clearly he's trying to rattle the Democrats. But the interesting thing to me here is that despite all this saber-rattling with these memes and what they're saying about gutting entire Democratic agencies, They haven't done it yet. They've been talking about laying off, you know, hundreds of thousands of federal workers. They haven't done it. I'm not saying they're not going to. But one of the reasons they haven't is because there's a discussion, a disagreement behind the scenes about strategy here. You do have some who think they should just use this as a threat and not actually do it.
34:22You have some conservatives who say, go for it. We should do it while we have the power and Congress isn't doing their job. But there's a large constituency of Republicans on the Hill who worry about them overplaying their hand. And I mean, Kevin Kramer, who is very close with Donald Trump, he's not, you know, some moderate Senate Republican. Even he was out there saying, look, we've got the moral high ground here, but we could overplay our hand and we could sort of squander that political capital with going too far. So speaking of that, so President Trump said he and vote are meeting to determine which of the, quote, many Democrat agencies, most of which are political scam, vote recommends to be cut.
34:58And then he also put out this AI song parody video. Let me run a little bit of that, because talking about overplaying their hand, I guess they're trying to embrace the dark idea of him coming to kill agencies and fire people. But take a look. Yeah.
35:35So that is obviously an, I don't know if I'd call it an homage, but that's Don't Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult. Probably most of the people out there know it from the Saturday Night Live skit with the more cowbell. But that's a pretty dark image. I mean, I know that MAGA folks think it's funny, but I don't know that in North Dakota they think it's funny. I don't think it's funny. I don't think that this is how I want my president to be spending his time. I mean, just think about that, the context of it, that not only is this severity of what he's threatening to do, right, cut federal jobs and cut federal workers and fire them, not just furlough, but fire them.
36:12People who work in his White House, people who work for Senator Mike Johnson or Speaker Mike Johnson and Senator John Thune. I mean, this is their staff that are also currently furloughed. And I've been through three of these shutdowns, and it's not fun. You know, and after a certain point, people here in D.C., people who have who work paycheck to paycheck, federal workers a lot, you know, in the House and the Senate, we get paid once a month. If things go on, you can't pay your rent. And you're asking these questions. And so and to look to your leadership and you're saying you're putting out a meme video and you're making a mockery of something that could be very serious.
36:45And I get that the firings haven't happened yet. But these threats and then to make a joke about it and think that and then for Speaker Johnson to say, oh, well, they're just having fun up there. No, this isn't fun. Get to work. Do your jobs. It goes beyond a disagreement about strategy. It's also a disagreement about the tone they should be hitting. I mean, Speaker Johnson has said over and over again that this is a serious thing. We don't like that we've got to make these cuts or the administration might have to make these cuts. They're trying to sort of change the tone here. And then you have the president, you know, tweeting these sorts of things, creating these memes, clearly thinking it's a bit of a joke, and Republicans actually are concerned that this looks particularly tone deaf.
37:27I want to say one other thing, though, about, you know, this threat to make all these cuts to agencies and such. To make them permanent. Yeah. Well, yes. And Democrats are obviously out there sort of expressing outrage, but they knew that this was a possibility going into the shutdown. Sure. I mean, Schumer said this way back in March. You played a clip, you know, when you were interviewing him a few minutes ago. He said, we shouldn't shut the government down for this very recent. Right, because Trump will get the keys to the car and do whatever he wants. Absolutely. And so they did it. They did it anyway.
37:58And look, this is what they risk. And they don't have a plan to get out of it. Right. And it reminds me of 2013, to be honest. The government shutdown means no September jobs report out today. Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-Dorammer spoke with CNN today. Take a listen. The markets do depend on this information. And every single month since I've been on the job. We have released the information and worked with BLS. We need that government open. What we do know to be true is that absent that jobs report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the market is still operating with a low hiring activity and low layoff activity.
38:34What kind of picture do we have of the economy right now? You know, it's interesting. I was just looking at a headline yesterday talking about, you know, stocks doing really well. And I guess I was expecting, and one of the things I was sort of warning in terms of Democrats embracing the shutdown is what happens to the economy. So far, we haven't seen a huge impact. Perhaps, you know, the economy is sort of numb to this because they've talked about the shutdown in particular. But yeah, obviously, people are hurting right now still. You look at the polling, people's pocketbooks remain their number one concern, concern about inflation.
39:08And that's going to be a big challenge for Trump going into the midterms. Yeah, it's going to be tough. I don't know that he's doing himself any favors, though. I don't think he is. I think that having a unified message, which Thune and Johnson have had, gets really clouded when you have Trump making a mockery of things that are so serious and when the American people currently aren't feeling this golden age of America that he had promised. The housing market is still a mess. Yes, our health care system is a mess, but our grocery costs haven't gone down. And so some of the things that he promised haven't come to fruition, and his focus on memes online doesn't help us get there.
39:41All right. Thanks to everybody here. We're going to go well outside the Beltway. We're going to go to London next for the big album release day for Taylor Swift and screening events literally happening all over the world to complement the main event.
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40:53Swifties, you can finally cross it off your wish list. Taylor Swift's new album, The Life of a Showgirl, has finally arrived. And Swifties around the world stayed up late for the midnight release, lining up and packing stores to get their hands on the new album. Big brands also leaned into the release. Starbucks transformed one of its Nashville locations into a life of the showgirl Starbee's coffeehouse. Krispy Kreme dropped two new orange donuts to celebrate the singer's 12th album. CNN's Anna Kubin is at a life of the showgirl screening in London. Anna, what are our British Swifty friends saying?
41:29Well, they're all really excited, Jake. In fact, most of them now are actually in the cinemas watching the film that was released to accompany Taylor's new album. This film is a behind-the-scenes look at The Fate of Ophelia music video, one of the tracks off the album, as well as the music video itself. But this is a big departure from Swift. This album is all about her love for NFL player Travis Kelsey, which is a really big departure from last year when she released an album all about heartbreak. But I really think I should pass the mic over to some real Swifties who I spoke to earlier. this is what they had to say.
42:03She's such an inspiration for me. She's just been here through all my major milestones of life from when I was a tween, so just seeing her success is amazing. I think she just makes us happy on a day-to-day basis. Every sort of song that she sings just shows, like, the adversity she faces, she always overcomes it. And she's inclusive of every single person, yeah.
42:28so that really gives you a sense jake of just how beloved taylor swift is but also the phenomenon she is remember this album comes hot off the heels of her record-breaking eras tour all right annie kubin thank you so much appreciate it this is cnn breaking news and welcome to the lead i'm jake tapper so much going on today with breaking news on multiple fronts. In our Law and Justice lead, Sean Diddy Combs was just sentenced to four years and two months in prison. The judge saying a substantial sentence must be given to send a message to abusers. We'll have much more on that this hour. We're going to begin with another breaking story in our Law and Justice lead.
43:05As the Trump Justice Department continues to fire some of the nation's most experienced counter-terrorist experts and prosecutors. Today, one of those experienced prosecutors left behind a stark warning on his way out, Mike Ben-Ari, in a striking letter that he taped to his office door, Martin Luther style, writes, quote, The Justice Department leadership is more concerned with punishing the president's perceived enemies than they are with protecting our national security, unquote. Ben-Ari continues accusing political leadership of, quote, jeopardizing our national security and making Americans less safe.
43:42Ben-Ari, we should note, was the lead prosecutor in the case of a man known as Jafar, a Pakistani accused of plotting the Abbey Gate attack that killed 13 U.S. service members and dozens of Afghans who were being evacuated from Afghanistan in 2021. In his letter, Ben-Ari continued, quote, While I have the utmost confidence in my co-counsel, my abrupt, apparently thoughtless removal with no period of transition will hurt this case, unquote. Quote, Benary is well respected and qualified. He was fired Wednesday because a MAGA activist posted on social media this nonsense. Quote, one can only assume that Benary was a big part of the internal resistance to the Comey indictment.
44:26A source tells CNN's Evan Perez, Benary was not involved in the Comey case. And this firing is just the latest example of President Trump's political vindictiveness resulting in experienced professionals whose job it is to protect you and me and our children being let go because of perceived slights. In that same office, the Eastern District of Virginia, Trump last month removed his own appointee, Eric Siebert, from the post of U.S. attorney because he wouldn't bring a case against Comey. He installed White House aide and Trump loyalist Lindsey Halligan, an insurance attorney with no prosecutorial experience, who was willing to charge the former FBI director.
45:09You might recall in August, several top FBI officials were ousted from their jobs, including the former acting director of the bureau who previously resisted efforts to compile a list of FBI agents who had worked on the investigation into the January 6 Capitol attack. The FBI agents association said it was deeply concerned that they were fired without due process. This week, FBI Director Kash Patel fired a longtime bureau employee who displayed a pride flag in his workspace during a past assignment. Sources saying that Patel told the agent trainer that he was being fired for past poor judgment and, quote, an inappropriate display of political signage, unquote.
45:51And just as a separate note, Jafar in the Abbey case, Jafar will be only the second foreign terrorist ever prosecuted in criminal court for killing American service members abroad in a war zone. The first is a guy named Spin Ghoul. Now, he's the subject of a book I have coming up, but forget the book. What's important is that while writing it, I learned about a guy named George Toskis, who was, until recently, the Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the National Security Division of the Justice Department. He was known as experienced and tough and skeptical. He got prosecutions through, to get prosecutions through him was a gauntlet for prosecutors to make their cases tight and get bad guys locked up.
46:34Now you should know Toskis would not give me the time of day when I reached out to him. He didn't return calls. He didn't return emails. But I will tell you, I know about him because his colleagues revered him. And I'm telling you, according to them, you want that guy prosecuting terrorists. But Toskis has been sidelined. Why? Because Toskis played a key role in pushing for the 2022 search warrant at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home, searching for classified documents that were, without question, improperly being stored. People who know a lot more than I do about national security say all of these personnel decisions made for petty, vindictive political reasons, All of these decisions are making the American people less safe.
47:21Let's bring in CNN's Evan Perez and CNN senior legal analyst Ellie Honig. And Evan Benary in the letter says Trump's actions are making the U.S. less safe. What more is in this letter? And how big a deal is this letter in the Justice Department? Well, it is a big deal because a lot of these folks have been fired, including George Toskis. They've left. They have left quietly and have not spoken out. And what's unusual is that is that Mike Benari went back to his office today, his former office, to clear out his belongings because he was given no time really to to to leave after 20 years in public service.
48:01he went back to take his things out and left this letter taped to his office wall there for everyone to see. And it was a letter to his colleagues, but it also is a letter, I think, to all of us, right? Look, President Trump, during the campaign, talked about essentially serving as retribution. And that is exactly what we're seeing in some ways, right? We're seeing this is not the only case where someone is being fired because someone in right-wing social media and MAGA world sometimes wrongly accuses them of being something else, right? In this case, Julie Kelly said that he was part of the resistance on the Comey case.
48:45He had nothing to do with that. He's working in the national security section, not the public corruption unit of that office. But we saw recently, just in August, Jake, there was an FBI agent, a military veteran who was a pilot at the FBI. He was fired because someone said that he worked on the Mar-a-Lago search, which is not true. He was not part of that. And then Brian Driscoll, who was his boss at the FBI, who told Kash Patel and everyone else this information, saying, look, this is not true. What they're saying on social media is not true. He was also fired. So we were seeing this repeatedly.
49:24This is now the subject of lawsuits. But it's very rare what Ben Ari did today. Taping this letter really is unusual because a lot of these guys have left and have left very quietly. And one of the reasons they've left quietly, Ellie, is they are afraid. They're afraid of the Trump Justice Department prosecuting them. For what? For who knows what? It doesn't even matter. They feel that it's a legitimate fear. And this is how the Department of Justice is changing shape. Career prosecutors being fired, other prosecutors being pulled from major cases to prosecute Comey. And in other cases, prosecutors have resigned in protest.
49:58Where does all of this lead? You're a former assistant U.S. attorney. Well, it's a dark moment, Jake, for the Justice Department. We've really never seen anything quite like this. I don't know where it ends up. And the damage that's being done here is really on two levels. One, this has badly undercut DOJ's credibility, the confidence that the public has in DOJ's independence. But even if we get beyond those theoretical harms, let's look at it at just a practical courtroom-type level. Think of the dozens of prosecutors who've either been fired, been pushed out, or resigned in protest. Going back to the Eric Adams, the mishandling of that case in the Southern District of New York, seven experienced veteran nonpolitical prosecutors resigned then.
50:38There also have been firings of anyone associated with Jack Smith's team, like the terrorism prosecutor you highlighted in the beginning. Anyone who worked on any of the January 6th cases has been fired. Now we have qualified, experienced prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia, which, by the way, is one of the two or three most active districts when it comes to anti-terrorism efforts. They have left. Also, if you look at main justice, anti-corruption units have been gutted. Anti-foreign bribery practice units have been gutted. Anti-civil rights or civil rights enforcement units have been gutted.
51:12And the impact on justice has been devastating. Any organization that loses that level of talent and expertise is going to suffer in the bottom line results. And I think we're seeing that come to roost now. And Evan, what's the mood inside the Justice Department? Well, it's pretty dark because of this, right? I mean, the lack of process, due process for people. Look, if you've done something wrong, there is an internal process for you to be investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility. And if you've done something wrong, then there is that entire, this has been completely circumvented, including over at the FBI.
51:44And the other, what you're sort of pointing to, Jake, and what Ellie was just talking about, is that there is some impact that is already being felt. We've never seen a period like this where grand juries are rejecting cases brought by the Justice Department. This is supposed to be the easiest process, right? It's a one-sided process where only the government presents its case. And grand juries are standing up and are rejecting some of this because of the lack of credibility that the Justice Department is bringing to some of these cases. And so that's the big sort of like the alarm bell that is ringing right now.
52:20And I don't think the public understands that. We're seeing this in districts in California, here in D.C., and it's going to spread if the Justice Department loses the credibility with the public. I just know that it's, and you guys know better than I. Right. We're literally talking about life and life and death issues when it comes to terrorism prosecutions. Ellie, one quick question on the Trump Justice Department case against Comey. Only 14 of the 23 grand jurors found probable cause to indict. And they found it on two of the three charges, but not the third. Tell us what that means. This should be a bright red warning light to prosecutors.
52:57I mean, the grand jury is undefended. The only people allowed in the grand jury are the prosecutor, the witness and the grand jurors. There is no defense presence. You only have to prove your case by the low evidentiary standard of probable cause. And you only need a majority. And here, they barely got that 14 to 9 count. So think about all that. Now, when this case goes to trial a few months from now, you're going to, A, have not just a defense lawyer, but Pat Fitzgerald, who is a trial legend, defending the case. You're going to have to prove your case unanimously and beyond a reasonable doubt, 12 to 0.
53:27So if you could only get 14 to 9 in a grand jury with no defense lawyer present, good luck getting unanimity several months from now with one of the best defense lawyers in the country on the other side of it. It's just so dispiriting. Evan Perez and Eli Honig, thanks so much. More breaking news. The terrorist group Hamas has agreed to immediately negotiate hostage releases after President Trump's ultimatum on the Gaza peace plan. We're going to discuss what that could mean for the war in Gaza. Plus, the U.S. has struck another suspected drug boat off the coast of Venezuela. This comes one day after Trump told Congress that the United States is in an armed conflict with drug cartels.
54:01Is that true? Stay with us.
54:07Breaking news in our worldly Hamas announced it will agree to immediately enter negotiations for the release of all of the hostages under President Trump's recent peace proposal. And now President Trump has responded on Truth Social, writing, quote, based on the statement just issued by Hamas, I believe they are ready for a lasting peace. Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza so that we can get the hostages out safely and quickly. Unquote. I want to bring in Thomas Nides. He serves as U.S. ambassador to Israel under the Biden administration. We should note he's a spouse of a CNN executive.
54:37Tom, what was your reaction to all of this? I mean, I guess it's been a whole week of rollout of the peace plan culminating with President Trump saying, great, Hamas accepted it, Bibi stopped bombing. I'm all in. Yeah? If, you know, I don't spend a lot of time praising the president, But if the president can pull this off, I'm all in. The war needs to come to an end. The hostages need to come home. The killing of innocent Gazans need to stop. We need to end the war. So I don't really care how it gets done. We need to get it done, and we need to get it done now. How much, Barack Ravid reported earlier this week that Trump said to Bibi on Sunday about this peace plan, you need to get on board with this, and if not, we're walking away from you.
55:22is that what you heard too and and how impactful was that i mean listen you know bb netanyahu and israel has an enormous amount of uh relationships that they need to keep uh with this white house okay this president has been a good friend of israel as joe biden was a good friend of israel understandably they need to get him to be on their side and they realize they have pushed him to the limit. As Bibi tends to do, I spend a lot of time with the prime minister. He tends to push the envelope as far as he possibly can. And then when he realizes there's no rope, he then decides that he needs to then cut a deal.
56:05And I think, and I listen, I give Jared Kushner credit. He got involved in this with Steve Whitcoff. And so my view of this is, I don't really care. I want it over. It should have been over six months ago. It needs to be done now. And if the president, because of his credibility or his desires to do it, I'm all in. You mean, when you say I don't really care, you mean I don't really care who gets the credit for it? Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, no, no. I mean, listen, if I sat here, I would tell you the 21-point proposal is the same thing that Tony Blinken talked about right before he stepped down as Secretary of State.
56:37I mean, again, this is not necessarily a new plan, but I don't care. Right, it doesn't matter if it's Blair's name or Blinken's name or Trump's name, whatever works. Listen, I talk to hostage families all the time. They don't care whose name's on it. They just want their families back. So let me ask you, how much do you think it was this, in terms of Hamas going along with it, this idea of, I'm going to let Bibi do whatever the hell he wants you have until Sunday at 6 p.m.? Not that Bibi hasn't already pretty much been doing whatever the hell he wants. I think the Qataris are feeling a lot of pressure as well.
57:08And I think the president has obviously said a lot of things positive vis-a-vis the Qataris after the attack that Israel did on Qatar to get the Hamas militants. So my view of this is I think it's a combination of a lot of things. But to be clear, Jake, I think your viewers need to understand. Hamas has said yes, but. Right. They always say yes, but. If anyone thinks this is going to happen tomorrow, I think we all need to be a little bit sober here. I do think it's good news. I think the president now is all in because he now needs to produce this agreement. So I'm happy about that. And I hope that the prime minister understands to take the seriousness of what the president just said today.
57:50And but this is going to be a very uncomfortable weekend for a lot of people. And my hope is we get this deal done. And one of the things you and I talked about this a long time ago, if a push came to shove and Netanyahu had to choose between Biden or his right wing crazy flank, the Ben Gavir's and Smotrich's that are holding up his government, he would definitely pick the right wing crazy flank. And I asked Barack Ravid earlier, well, what's he going to do here? Is it Trump or the right wing crazy flank? And he said he cannot afford to walk away from Trump. So Bibi, in this case, would actually choose Trump.
58:23Is that right? Well, listen, I think Barack is one of the more smarter people I know in this world of this. And I totally agree. I think at this point, he is all in on President Trump. And President Trump has stepped up and helped the state of Israel and helped Netanyahu. Netanyahu has no choice here. The time is now. The war needs to end. And again, as I said at the beginning, I don't care who gets credit. I just want it over with. Ambassador Thomas Nights, good to see you. Do I have to call you ambassador? Always. Always? All right, fine. Sean Diddy Combs is going to prison for four years and two months.
58:55The judge had some very direct words for the convicted music mogul and all abusers. That's next.
59:05We have some breaking news in our Law and Justice League. Sean Diddy Combs was just sentenced to 50 months in prison, 5-0. The judge also imposed the maximum fine of$500 ,000 after Combs was convicted on prostitution-related charges in July. Seen ends. Kara Scannell is outside the courthouse in New York for us right now. Kara, how did Combs react as he heard the sentence, which was not what he wanted? Jake, it was surprising. Combs was reactionless. He showed no emotion when the judge sentenced him to 50 months in prison. At one point, I did see him sort of eye dart over to his lawyer, but he really didn't show any emotion at all, which was a contrast from earlier in the day when he watched this 15-minute video that his team had compiled to show the judge all of the highlights of Holmes' life, his highlights of these intimate family moments, as well as some of the charity work that he had done working with young schoolchildren.
59:58Then at that point, he put his head in his hands, his shoulders were heaving, and he was sobbing throughout that 10-minute video. When he spoke to the judge, he was composed. There was only one moment when he turned around to look at his mother and apologize to her and for failing her as a son is that he choked up for a moment. But he said he was sorry for what he had done. He had called the acts that were caught on that surveillance camera at the Intercontinent Hotel where he was kicking and dragging Cassie Ventura. Disgusting. And he apologized for what he'd done. But the judge, though, saying that, well, he recognized some of Combs' good acts and calling them iconic.
1:00:36He also said it didn't wipe away what happened that came out at the trial, the evidence. He said that Cassie Ventura and Combs' former girlfriend, Jane, he said their testimony was credible. He called them brave. He said they were strong for speaking out. And he said it was sending a message to other victims of domestic violence and sexual abuse, because he said that if you were once a victim, it didn't mean you always had to be one. He told the two women that they should be proud of themselves, their family would be proud of them. And the judge said that he was proud of them for coming into court and holding truth to power.
1:01:09Now, Combs still is in federal jail in Brooklyn, New York. He will remain there until he is designated by the Bureau of Prisons into the federal prison where he will serve that sentence. It's not yet clear where that will be. The judge will make a recommendation based on what Combs asked for. He said he did want to be in Miami near his mother, but that will be determined by the Bureau of Prisons of where he serves. So Combs has already been in federal jail for a little more than a year since his arrest in September 2024. That will count toward the sentence that he received. So he will still serve another additional two and a half to three years sentence before he is out.
1:01:47And we do expect Combs to appeal. He was hoping, of course, for a sentence of time served. Jake. All right, Kara Scannell in New York, New York. The city's so nice, they named it twice. Americans, your government is still shut down. Coming up next, I'm going to talk to a Republican member of Congress as the White House is threatening to fire potentially thousands of government workers during the shutdown permanently.
1:02:13Breaking our world lead, the United States just announced that it struck another suspected drug boat off the coast of Venezuela. This makes the fourth such strike. President Trump says this latest vessel was loaded with, quote, enough drugs to kill 25 ,000 to 50 ,000 people. New video into CNN from the U.S. military shows its South Command, Southern Command, displaying its F-35s in Puerto Rico armed with bombs. The scene reportedly hours before the deadly boat strike. In a letter to Congress this week, the Pentagon insisted that Trump determined that the U.S. is in an armed conflict with the drug cartels and designated the drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
1:02:52That letter also describes smugglers for the cartels as unlawful combatants. It is unclear if that designation offers some kind of legal avenue for the Trump administration to justify the strikes and argue that they are not extrajudicial killing. In our politics lead, no deal in sight, which means the government shutdown is more than likely to extend into next week. There's been no serious talks between lawmakers and the Senate, and this is between lawmakers, amongst lawmakers, and the Senate's not expected to be in session this weekend. And while lawmakers continue to get paid, tens of thousands federal workers are not.
1:03:27Let's bring in Republican Congressman Don Bacon of Nebraska. Congressman, there have been attempts by lawmakers both in the past and right now to make it a law that lawmakers should not have to. Lawmakers should not get paid during a shutdown. What would you think about that proposal?
1:03:46I guess I'm all right with it because I always delay my pay until this whole thing's resolved because everybody else is getting their pay withheld. So I feel like we should be treated the same way. I know there's some legal protections to protect Congress from the president. That's why those laws are there. But I don't really feel like I should get paid during a shutdown. So I I withhold all payments. Most of us do. I think most, the majority I'm sure does. I don't know about all, but most of us don't think we should get paid while federal employees are not being paid as well. Do you support the White House's current threat to not only furlough federal workers, but fire some of them during the shutdown, as well as President Trump saying that, quote, Democrat agencies, whatever that means, should be eliminated?
1:04:38I don't, Jake. You know, the federal employees, this is not their fault. This is Republicans and Democrats bumping heads and not being grownups in the room and shaking hands on what I think is a pretty easy thing for us to do. And I don't like putting our federal workers under this dress. It's not their fault. Now, that said, I knew when President Biden was president that if we did a shutdown, that we'd give him more power. And you have to get his approval to open government back up to get some more leverage. I told our Democrat friends this, and I called my friends. I work with many. And I said, hey, you're giving more power to President Trump.
1:05:17And we have this OMB director talking about furloughing people. So I just think this is one of the risks that happens when you go into a shutdown. And I wish they would have saw through this and prevented it. It does seem as though, just from listening to him and watching his body language, that your leader, Speaker Mike Johnson of Louisiana, might be a teeny bit frustrated with some of the tone that is coming from the White House when it comes to the memes, when it comes to the sombrero memes, when it comes to the don't fear the reaper memes with Russ Vogt. And he keeps saying this is serious business.
1:05:57I keep telling people, you know, ignore the memes, ignore the memes. But he seems to be having a different tone than the president and the White House. Do you agree with that? And do you share his view? I do. You know, Speaker Johnson's a strong Christian fellow. And I think he's very respectful. I've known him now for 10 years. I've never seen him lose his temper or visibly. You can tell he's mad, but he controls his temper. He treats people right. And I think he had good advice to leader Jeffries just to ignore the Sombro memes. And I think it's sub-presidential. Most people want something better out of our president on this.
1:06:39And it surely doesn't help cool the temperature down. But we need to get an agreement. Frankly, I think we're in a strong position. We passed a clean CR and we for decades have not seen a shutdown over a clean CR. And we should just keep to that message. And I do think we should we should commit to negotiating on the ACC tax credits. I think a lot of Republicans want to find some middle ground there. I think we should reassure our colleagues across the aisle that we will sit down because we don't want to see everybody's premium skyrocket either. right so there's areas that we could i think pretty easily i think pretty easily uh get an agreement and move forward now truth be told i heard you talk about this a little bit today too some of the democrats feel very pressured to have a big fight with the president and this is their way of showing their base that they're fighting back on president trump and that that's the harder that's a harder problem to check to solve uh but i do think within congress itself if the Republicans show commitment to negotiate on the ACA tax credits that we could probably move past this pretty fast.
1:07:46But I'm hopeful. But before you go, I know you're a retired Air Force general, and I'm just wondering if you have any concerns at all. Obviously, nobody listening or watching, I'm sure, feels anything but hostility towards drug traffickers in Venezuela. But do you have any concerns about President Trump declaring them to be a terrorist group and then using the same methods of combating narco terrorists, as he calls them, with the al-Qaeda terrorists and just shooting them out of the water? Does that concern you at all? If it was me, I'd make sure I have a lot of good lawyers to ensure I had this right.
1:08:23And I'm used to using the Coast Guard, DEA and other law enforcement to do these things. And so I want make sure i was at double and triple proof that you know i was in a safe legal position and i can't say that personally right now i really don't know i would also want to make sure that our intelligence is 100 accurate that we're not hitting any ships that are happened by accident not narco uh you know boats but i do know this we lose a hundred thousand people a year that's a lot that's more than vietnam in one year and we had vietnam in 10 years we lost 58 000 I do think this is a real threat to our country.
1:09:04And I will say I appreciate the president taking it seriously. I worry about the legal aspects of it, and I would make sure I want to have that right. But it's hard not to, I mean, I don't want to be super critical here. I got other areas I want to be critical about. But this year, when you lose 100 ,000 people, it's hard to say that this is not a threat to our country. Yeah, I hear you. All right, Republican Congressman Don Bacon of Nebraska. Always good to see you, sir. Have a great weekend. Thank you. Famous American comedians performing at a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia that was already controversial.
1:09:33Wait till you hear what headliner Dave Chappelle reportedly said in his set. That's next.
1:09:41Our politics lead American comedians, including Dave Chappelle, are taking some heat from their fellow comedians for performing at the Riyadh Comedy Festival currently underway in Saudi Arabia. Yesterday, the New York Times reported that Chappelle and his set addressed the free speech debate here in the United States during his set in Riyadh. He said, quote, right now in America, the Times reports, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you'll get canceled. I don't know if that's true, but I'm going to find out. The Times reports that Mr. Chappelle was met with whoops, cheers and applause, as he told an audience of 6 ,000.
1:10:10It's easier to talk here than it is in America, unquote. Here to discuss is the panel. We should note that in order to perform, and I have no idea if they followed through with this, But one of the comedians who decided to not perform said that they had to sign a form saying that they would not make fun of the Saudi royal family and would not make fun of Islam. So I don't know how much free speech that actually is. But Mr. Chappelle is certainly entitled to his views. Yeah. And I also think, listen, there's a lot of people that are very angry that they are at this festival. And I think that goes into my category of cancel culture.
1:10:47I mean, if you don't agree with them going to be comedians in Saudi Arabia because you don't believe in what Saudi Arabia stands for, then don't go to their shows here. But these guys are making money. I mean, they are getting paid a lot of money to do this, and I don't have any problem with it at all. It's just like what they have with Liv with the golfers. You don't have a problem with that? So here's somebody who has a problem with it. David Cross, a fellow comedian, he wrote on his page, how can any of us take you seriously ever again? He's writing to his fellow comedians. all of your bitching about cancel culture and freedom of speech, you don't get to talk about it ever again.
1:11:19You're performing for literally the most oppressive regime on earth. And we should note that this is, we are close to the seven year, yesterday was the seven year anniversary of journalist, an American resident, Jamal Khashoggi's murder by the Saudi government. What do you think? The Saudi government probably loves this more than anybody, right? I mean, this plays right into their efforts to sort of sanitize their, their image and look like they're modernizing and how open they are when they're anything but. Look, I think two things can be true at the same time. One, to say that you can speak more freely in Saudi Arabia is laughable.
1:11:56That is not true. We can acknowledge that. We can also acknowledge that it is sad that we are at a point in the free speech debate here in this country that people are actually honestly making comparisons to some extent about how much free speech you have there versus how much free speech a comedian has here. Both of those things are true, and both of those things are very sad. I think one of the things, I only read excerpts of his, so I can't say that I got the whole thing, but one of the things Chappelle said, according to the Times, was at the end of his study, he said something, if I ever say this in the United States, you know I'm saying this under duress, I stand with Israel.
1:12:33And so he's been critical of Israel, Dave Chappelle. Maybe he was driving at the fact that he felt like he could be more open with his opposition to Netanyahu and Israel and the war in Gaza in Saudi Arabia than in the United States. I don't know. See, I kind of felt like his comment was all about the Kimmel stuff, that comedians and all of them were coming together to support Kimmel and that he would be canceled because of that. That's how I took it. Here's Bill Burr, another great comedian who went to this trip. He defended his appearance, and here's what he had to say on his podcast. He can talk about anything, you know, other than a couple things, which was basically, you know, religion, don't make fun of the royals.
1:13:18And other than that, it was all everything was like open. It was great to experience that part of the world and to be a part of the first comedy festival over there in Saudi Arabia. I think it's going to lead to a lot of positive things. It might lead to a lot of positive things. I don't know. And certainly the more of Western culture that's there, the better. I will say you're not allowed to make fun of the murderous dictator MBS and you can't make fun of the religion of Saudi Arabia. Those are two pretty big subjects. Two big asterisks. Right. Yeah. And look, you know, again, to say that, you know, the big argument that a lot of comedians have been making since the whole Kimmel episode was, you know, we have the freedom to mock anything and everything.
1:14:08And we and that is our God given right. To put yourself in a position, I don't know that I would have done that to put yourself in a position where you've got the constraints that you're arguing about back home legitimately. Yeah. You know, but he does. He had the right to go. He did. He made a lot of, you know, Other jokes at other people's expense. I don't think, though, we can say that speech there is free. Here's something that I'm sure comedians will be making fun of tonight and next week. So just moments ago, not this part of it, DHS said they have arrested more than a thousand undocumented immigrants during what they call Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago.
1:14:46That's not the part that people are going to make fun of. Also today, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem, posted that she was blocked from entering a city building in Illinois. Quote, we were stopping for a quick bathroom break. This is a public building. This is how Governor J.B. Pritzker and his cronies treat our law enforcement. Absolutely shameful. And the post includes this video. So let's take a look. Can I allow you to restrooms? No, you cannot. We can't? Don't put on the door. Please don't. All right. Thank you. Interesting. That's what Governor Pritzker says is cooperation in keeping people safe.
1:15:26Okay. Well... I mean, look, the DHS secretary posted it, so... Lucky for us that we've got a cabinet secretary who regularly films themselves, I guess, headed to bathroom breaks. I mean... You don't? Never on CNN, Jake. We were talking about earlier, because I guess the facility gets a million dollars worth of federal money, and I'm assuming very shortly we'll see that they will no longer receive a million dollars in the federal funding. But look, look, this is the same argument that we've been having since the beginning of this Trump administration, since the border closings and everything else.
1:16:02As you know, I'm more conservative on this issue, and I already warned Mao. But it's going to continue to be a battle as long as the president continues to put his policies in place in some of these more liberal states. Thanks to both of you. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend. Coming up next, Bad Bunny's No Mainland U.S. Shows announcement seems to have one exception, one big exception. and it's making waves from San Juan to the White House. We'll tell you why next.
1:16:44And our pop culture leads start brushing up on your Español because the Bad Bunny fiesta is just getting started. The Puerto Rican superstar was recently named this year's Super Bowl halftime show performer, a massive endorsement at a time when Latin Americans across the country are experiencing fear in their own communities for any number of reasons. Joining us now to discuss, CNN's Isabel Rosales and CNN political commentator Maria Cardona. Isabel, the Super Bowl announcement comes on the heels of Bad Bunny's decision to not tour in the United States outside of Puerto Rico because he says he fears ice might harass his fans.
1:17:21So you were just in Puerto Rico. How are fans reacting to him playing at the Super Bowl? Jake, they are elated. Bad Bunny is slated to become the first Latino male artist to headline the Super Bowl. And their expectations is that this is going to be 15 minutes of Latino excellence. This is going to be big. This is going to be loud. This is going to be Latin. And this is likely going to be all in Spanish, a first for the Super Bowl, because outside of a couple of songs here and there where he's featured for artists and said words, phrases in English, his entire discography is in Spanish. And that's part of the appeal of Bad Bunny for his fans, that he's unapologetic.
1:18:03He's uncompromising about his identity, about his language. And he said in announcing this halftime show that this is for my people, my culture and our history. Latinos also are very eager to hear from him, to hear him speak out, someone who hasn't shied away from politics, and for being an advocate of marginalized communities, and to hear from him at a time, as you mentioned, Jake, where so many Latinos are living in fear, they're hiding, and they're not speaking Spanish in public. And Maria, there have been some people on the right who have expressed anger of the NFL's pick. Bad Bunny is famously a Trump critic.
1:18:37I want you to listen to what Fox contributor Tony Lahren said on a recent podcast with Crystal Ball. Do you think Bad Bunny is a good choice for the Super Bowl? It seems fine, and I don't know why it's a big deal. Seems like a great American artist, so sure. He's not an American artist, but. He's Puerto Rican. That's part of America, dear. Yeah, you don't think you have any problem with him saying, like, the ICE is, well, I'm sure you don't, mother effers and sons of b****s, and that he's not going to perform here. I got to give Tony credit, I mean, for immediately going to the next thing, having completely botched the fact that Puerto Rico is part of the United States.
1:19:19What was your reaction to that? I mean, my first reaction was she needs to crack a book. And I think it is important that we're talking about this, Jake, because a lot of people don't understand that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. So Puerto Rico is part of the United States. Bad Bunny is an American citizen. And so the pride on the island right now and the pride across not just Puerto Rican communities, Jake, but Latino communities in general is immense. To have Bad Bunny be headlining such an incredibly huge global event like the Super Bowl, I think, is incredible, especially at a time when communities are fearful.
1:19:57And I think, you know, he made the decision, as you may know, for his global tour. He had no dates in the United States because. In the mainland United States. On the mainland United States. Puerto Rico is part of the United States. That is true. And he had a 30-day residency there. You're right about that. And by the way, ICE did show up during his shows. Is that right? Yes. And that was a big issue. So he did not want to have that happen for the Latino communities here in the United States. And Isabel, Bad Bunny recently wrapped up his two-month residency in Puerto Rico and helped generate an estimated$200 million for the Puerto Rican economy, according to local economists.
1:20:31With all that comes from performing at the Super Bowl, how much bigger can he get, do you think, and how can the island hope to benefit? And I was so taken aback just by the energy, the star power that he had when I went to Puerto Rico during the last week of his residency. And I saw people of all nationalities, background, ages, even a 101-year-old superfan, And just the adoration that they had for Benito, Antonio Martinez Ocasio or Bad Bunny. And, Jake, I think the sky is the limit for him. I mean, he's ventured out into acting. Happy Gilmore, too. He's hosting SNL this weekend. He's also hinted at a Salsa album that is coming out.
1:21:11So he really is taking the world here by the reins. And this is also good news for Puerto Rico, too. I spoke with Jorge Perez, who's the CEO of Discover Puerto Rico. That's the tourism agency. And he says that Bad Bunny has essentially opened up the floodgates, but they're going to ride this wave. They've shown the world that Puerto Rico is capable of hosting big artists like Bad Bunny. They want more. They want more tourists. They want more jobs. That this is not temporary. And this is also a smart business decision, talking about the halftime show, for the NFL. I mean, this is one of the most streamed artists of all time in the world.
1:21:45His album broke past 7 billion views. Xavier Tirar Mas Fotos on Spotify, the first to do that in 2025. This is a big artist. He's going to bring a lot of eyes to the Super Bowl. I just have to say, your enthusiasm for Mr. Bunny is infectious. I'm an old lame man, and I will get more familiar with his music. Smart decision. At a time that so many of our Latino and Latina brothers and sisters feel bad, It is good to have, I can't roll my R's, but it is good to have so much. There you go. You can do it for me. Isabella Maria, thanks so much. Coming up on Sunday, State of the Union, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett and Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego of Arizona, Sunday morning at 9 Eastern, again at noon and here on CNN.
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