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24:19His father had to pay back everything in monetary checks and then also returning some of the things that were taken. But rehabilitative work is another important aspect. They have done focused on so many programs in prison. They have started programs. They have helped other inmates. They have really done a lot of that. And they have gone to school. Eric is currently enrolled at UC Irvine. Disciplinary records. Prosecution has that he has nine. The defense says eight. And according to the defense list, there were two that actually involved physical violence. One was mutual combat. The other one was called battery.

24:58However, one was in 2011. One was in 1997. Seven personal development. That would be some of the courses that they designed and took in prison and risk assessment. This is interesting. Both of them had psychological testing based on the clemency process. And both of them, Eric, though, also were assumed to be and determined to be a mid level risk, not a low risk, not a high risk, but mid level risk. So under California law, it's the governor, I believe, in this case, Gavin Newsom, who has the final say over parolees for convicted murderers. Have we heard from Governor Newsom about where he stands on this?

25:42No, he has not spoken out. But what he did do not too long ago was Sirhan Sirhan. The parole board had recommend release for Sirhan Sirhan. And he determined because there was not an acceptance of that responsibility, because there was not any remorse for what he had done publicly, admitted and truthful and honest repentance, he decided that he didn't believe he should be released. So he was not. All right, Jean Casares, please keep us posted as this plays out the next day or two. I want to bring in civil rights attorney Areva Martin now. Areva, both Menendez brothers are considered, I think, low mid-risk, according to Jean, prisoners despite being convicted of murder.

26:23But because they were 18 and 21 at the time of the killings, they are considered youth offenders under California law. How crucial is that for a parole board? Well, it's really important to this case, Phil, because but for that California law that said that they could be resentenced because they committed their crimes before they were of the age of 26. We wouldn't even be here today. It was their lawyers filing, requesting that a resentencing hearing take place, saying that there was additional evidence, evidence of sexual abuse, particularly with related to Eric from related to his father that got us to this point today.

26:58So that law and the fact that they committed these crimes before they were 26 is very important to where we are. And Jean is right. The governor ultimately has all of the power with respect to what happens to Eric and Lyle Menendez. So despite what the recommendation is today, we're not going to see them, Eric in particular, walk out of prison today. It's a very lengthy process, even if the recommendation is for parole. So in your view, actually, we have some breaking news. Areva, I really appreciate your time. We've got to break away for a moment, breaking in our national lead. President Trump is joining law enforcement on the streets of Washington, D.C.

27:38Let's go straight to CNN's Kristen Holmes. Kristen, what are we looking at right now? So we are not on the streets of Washington, D.C., just to be clear. But he is at the Park Police Operations Center. And I'm sorry, I'm watching it as we go by to see who's with him. He's with his chief of staff, Susie Wiles. He's with the Attorney General, Pam Bondi. Looks like he's just come out to make remarks. Oh, there he is, standing right there. And so he's clearly going to be thanking the troops here. It looks like there's a bunch of National Guard. Somebody else I know. Oh, here we go. We don't want that to happen.

28:08Where are we going, Margo? Over here? Hello, everybody. It's great to be with you. You guys are doing a fantastic job, and gals doing an amazing job, and we appreciate it. The numbers are down like we wouldn't believe, but we believe it. Where do I stand here? Right where? Okay. Hello. It's a healthy, attractive-looking group of people. It's good. Well, I just want to thank everybody very much for being here. I wanted to do this. We've had some incredible results. The results have come out, and it's like a different place. It's like a different city. It's the capital. It's going to be the best in the world.

28:53We're going to do what you're doing with law enforcement. And very importantly, also, we're going to physically do it. We're going back to Congress for some money. And we're going to redo a lot of the pavement, a lot of the medians, a lot of the graffiti is all coming off real fast. It's going to come down real fast. We're working with Clark Construction there. One of the big ones. They're the biggest here by far, actually. and we're going to be not so much building it's cleaning and fixing and redoing and putting brand new surfaces down on your roads and streets and when people come in from the airport all the way to the capital of the white house or any place else they go and they're going to say boy this place is spotless so we're doing that most importantly though we're going to have a crowd of people that are going to be happy you know i've received more phone calls from people in the last four days than I ever have.

29:46I've been here now four years plus. And by the way, I think we had about the best seven months, they're saying, that any president's had. We've done a lot of work. We've done a lot of good work, including the biggest tax cuts that you've ever had. I know you guys don't care about taxes, so you don't care about saving a little tax, but you saved a lot of tax, actually. But we've had a great, great period of time. But I've never received so many phone calls thanking me for what we've done in Washington, D.C., from people that haven't gone to a restaurant in literally in four years. And they said, you know, what you've done is it's unprecedented because what they they they said it was just unsafe.

30:28We couldn't do it. We'd go out and you'd see the stories. You'd read the stories. You'd see all of the things that are happening. And they said, we just we couldn't we couldn't stand it, sir. Now I take my wife and my kids to dinner. One of them said he's gone out four nights in a row, and he hadn't gone out for four years. So it's a great tribute to you. And when I look at you people, I understand why, because there's no games, right? We're not playing games. We're going to make it safe. And we're going to then go on to other places, but we're going to stay here for a while. We want to make this absolutely perfect.

31:03It's our capital. And I guess it used to be many years ago safe, but it's certainly not had a very good run. And you've got to be strong. You've got to be tough. You've got to do your job. Whatever it takes to do your job, you've got to do your job. But the crime numbers are way down. I'm looking at, you saw some of the stats. They just read them out to me inside. The numbers that we haven't seen here ever, actually ever. And I think it's probably right now. To me, I feel very safe now, and I'm hearing people are very safe. But I know within two weeks, it's going to be Pam. It's going to be at a level that's even far superior.

31:42So I just came. I just wanted to thank you all. You're doing incredible. You're incredible people. You make the country run. Frankly, you make the whole place run. We're going to have the best capital ever. We're going to have the it's going to look better than it ever did. Even at the White House, I'm building a ballroom. They've been after a ballroom for 150 years, but they never had a real estate guy as a president. You know, I've done a lot of ballrooms, and we're going to make this one the best of them all. But we're doing a real job. As far as the country is concerned, we're respected again.

32:16We had a country that was laughed at a year ago. They thought they couldn't understand what was happening, and it's about leadership. But we had a country that was a dead country in many ways. I went to Saudi Arabia. I went to Qatar. I went to UAE. We came back with$5.1 trillion of investment in this country. And we're over$17 trillion. Now, a lot of you don't know what that means. And nobody knows what it means because it's never happened before. In five months, because really it's a five month, even though we're here seven, but we started five months ago in terms of investment. And we have, because they see what's happened to our country, we're going to be over$17 trillion, trillion with a T, dollars of investment.

33:00There's never been anything close. If we did$1 trillion in a year, and we're talking about over a five-month period, maybe six months if you look at it, but over$17 trillion. We're building plants, auto plants, AI plants, all sorts of plants all over the country. I'm giving them the right. Lee Zeldin's done a fantastic job. We're giving them the right to build electric plants. They become almost like a public utility because we have old grids. We have a lot of stuff that's old. We wouldn't be able to compete with China AI. And now we're totally leading the AI race and the artificial intelligence.

33:38It's a big deal. And it's the hottest thing there is for probably in 35, 40 years. It's a lot of people don't know what it is. Just trust me, it's very hot. It's big. But they need massive amounts of electricity. They need more electricity than we have right now in the whole country, servicing everything. In other words, we have to at least double it up to be competitive and to be leading. And we're more than doubling it up. And what I'm doing is I'm letting all of these very rich companies, and they've got nothing but they've got a lot of money, and they want to invest it in the United States, and they're building big plants, but they're building electric plants with it.

34:15I said, you build your building, and these are buildings that cost$30,$40,$50 billion when you include everything that's inside, all the technology. I said, I'm going to let you build electric plants to fire your own electricity. And anything that you have left over, you sell it back into the grid. So all of these big factories that are being built are building their own electric plants fired by oil and gas. They're not fired by wind, by the way, because wind doesn't work, but we won't say that. It destroys everything. It looks terrible. It's a very expensive form of energy. and we're not doing the wind.

34:52We're going back to fossil fuel. I hope not too many of you people are going to be upset, but we have to go back to what works. We can't be foolish, but we are, we're building massive electric plants all over the country. We're going to continue to monitor the president's remarks. I do want to go back though to CNN's Kristen Wilson. Kristen, there were two things that stuck out to me. I think we're now in the portion that you and I have heard a lot of over the course of the last several months, but at the very beginning, there were two things that stuck out to me. One, when he said, we're going to stay here for a while in terms of the federal presence in the District of Columbia.

35:24I believe the statute they're utilizing is kind of a 30-day time window, at least on the home rule side of things. And the second is going back to Congress to ask for money to build out roads, construction, using Clark Construction here in D.C. Do we know anything about the latter one? No, that was the first time we'd heard that, him talking about going back to Congress, sounding like for more security and for, as you said, more construction to rebuild certain parts of the city. On that 30 days, what's been very interesting is there were a lot of questions as to how long this would last. At one point, there was some belief that this might not even last the 30 days, but the White House has kind of pushed that aside, saying that once the 30 days are up, they expect that they will go to Congress, because that's what they have to do, in order to extend the National Guard presence, extend the federal presence there.

36:09I will say, you know, this President Trump has gone down there. He's thanking a lot of these men and women. We know there are roughly 300 people there. They're from different agencies, DEA, ATF. And I got to tell you, Phil, I'm sure for a lot of them, it is appreciated because we have seen a lot of protesting, a lot of shouting at these men and women, a lot of people in D.C. who are unhappy with their presence. So I'm sure to many of them, it is nice to have somebody in the highest office thanking them for their service. Yeah, no, it's a really important point. These are folks, a lot of them sit down here or deployed here.

36:43It wasn't their idea. They're here because that's what they're supposed to be doing, and that's what their commander-in-chief has told them to do. I want to get to Charles Ramsey in a second. But, Kristen, before I let you go, inside the White House right now, it's clear they view this as a winning political issue. Is there any concern about kind of the tale of this over the long term? Not really right now. I mean, they believe anything that they can say, you are saying that you are against us fixing crime, right? This is the same way that we've heard them talk about immigration. If you talk, if you push back on any of their immigration policies, you to them are saying the way that their narrative is, is that you want legal criminals in this country.

37:22But then, of course, that's how they feel about crime as well. Kristen Holmes, I'm sure we'll be coming back to you. Keep us posted as you hear news from the president as he continues to speak. I want to bring in former Washington, D.C. police chief Charles Ramsey. Commissioner, Trump just said that now with the actual law enforcement in D.C., the crime numbers are way down. What's your sense right now of the statistics? There's been a lot of questions about where they were, where they could be now. What's responsible for what at this moment? Well, first of all, I'm not surprised if the numbers are down.

37:54With the number of law enforcement and military personnel that's been sent to the district, it's pretty easy to suppress crime. But suppressing crime is not the same thing as solving the crime problem. These numbers cannot remain. Eventually they're going to leave. And when they leave, what happens then? So you have to put in place a strategy, a plan to be able to sustain whatever gains you make during this period of time. And unless I see that, then this is going to be something that is very temporary in nature. There is a problem in terms of violent crime, not only in D.C., but in cities around the country.

38:34but just throwing hundreds of National Guard at it is not necessarily the solution. Have you seen any threads of a broader plan, a longer term plan? Because I think you make a really good point. There's kind of a snap reaction to the scale of the operation here without acknowledging the fact that that's going to have an effect. Like without question, it will have an effect in terms of the numbers. But in terms of when you talk to people, is there any sense that there is a plan being put into place? No, I haven't heard anybody really talking about any kind of real coordinated plan. You've got a lot of law enforcement agencies that work in the district and they coordinate on a regular basis, but they all have their different missions.

39:12But what I would like to see would be, for an example, you know, if you want to have greater police presence, not so much the guard, but police presence, expand the area patrol for park police, expand the area patrol for the U.S. Capitol Police. All these kinds of agencies, along with metropolitan police, they need a plan, they need a strategy. What you're seeing right now is nothing more than just suppressing crime. And you could put hundreds of people anywhere in the United States for a period of time. And I guarantee you, the crime numbers will show a reduction because you're suppressing it.

39:43Criminals aren't stupid. They're just gonna lay low until you leave. Charles Ramsey, always appreciate your time, especially in a breaking news event like this. Thanks so much. We'll be right back.

39:58In our tech lead, a lawsuit against the popular video game Roblox, alleges the platform allows sexual predators to victimize kids. The state of Louisiana filed the lawsuit and Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle joins me now. Attorney General, I really appreciate your time, especially as a parent who sees this game often on the TVs in his home. To start with, what precipitated this? Was there a single event that kind of prompted you to move forward here? Well, you know, we've had some incidents here involving our internet crimes against children task force that drew some attention to this platform, this app in particular.

40:37And we had a situation in one example of that where the parish sheriff was executing a warrant and encountered an individual who was masking his voice as a 14-year-old girl while he was actively using roadblocks to, you know, prey on young young children. Your lawsuit alleges the company prioritizes profit over child safety. Do you have specific examples that are really kind of at the core of this? Look, there's a lot of examples of that. I think that, you know, everything about this particular app's growth and all the way through when the company went public, you know, everything they do is designed to increase user engagement numbers, which increase their profitability.

41:27And about 60%, almost 60 % of the users that are enrolled to use Roblox are 16 or under. That's an enormous amount of exposure to liability and an enormous amount of exposure for sex predators to get access to our children. Also an enormous amount of responsibility for a company, you'd think. Roblox's statement about this lawsuit begins by saying they don't comment on pending litigation, but it also says any assertion that Roblox would intentionally put our users at risk of exploitation is simply untrue. No system is perfect and bad actors adapt to evade detection, including efforts to take users to other platforms where safety standards and moderation practices may differ.

42:12Do you think it's true that bad actors will always adapt to any safeguards a tech company puts into place? I mean, I think I think they'll try, but there's still a lot of safeguards. Have in place, so it's simply not true that they've done everything that they can do. I mean, that's just flatly false from the time they started this app from 2009, I think, to 2016. I don't think they made a single tip or forwarded a single tip to the National National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. So, you know, other apps do that. You can just look at those statistics and see the dramatic difference in the way that Roblox operates compared to other apps.

42:56You know, I just don't think that the facts bear out their statements that they are doing everything that they can do. In fact, I think what they show is they're not doing they're doing the most the minimum that they can do and that that keeps their engagement numbers up. Well, certainly if you're watching going forward, Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merrill, thanks so much for your time. Thanks for having me. Well, in our health lead, the evolving medical advice on your heart health and high blood pressure. We're paging CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta. And note the QR code on your screen to scan and submit a question.

43:28Sanjay, the fancy medical word for high blood pressure is hypertension. There's new guidance about how to control it. What do we need to know here? I think the headline here, Phil, was that hypertension is something that will be recognized with lower numbers. It used to be 140 was the number you really paid attention to before thinking about treatment. Now it's 130 and they want to talk about treating that more aggressively. So it's interesting if you look at 120, most people know these numbers, but 120 over 80 and lower, that's considered normal. 120 to 129 is considered elevated, but that 130 number is where people are really starting to pay attention.

44:09If you have blood pressure that falls into that range, for three to six months, you should try, you know, basic lifestyle changes, which you know, diet, exercise, cutting back on salt. But if that doesn't work, after six months, you probably need to be thinking about medication. One thing that is new here, Phil, they say is part of the lifestyle changes. Cutting out alcohol completely is now recommended as well. As you know, Phil, they've gone back and forth on this. Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. There was a time when we heard having a glass of wine was actually good for the heart.

44:41Yeah, I mean, I got to say, as long as I've been a medical reporter, I think there's been a there's been back and forth on alcohol. In fact, it goes back to like the 1800s. There was these these op eds in The New York Times debating the value of alcohol when it came to health. But I think over the last 30, 40 years or so, I think the drumbeat has become increasingly clear. In the 1980s, there was an association between alcohol and breast cancer, for example. there was this thing called the French paradox back in the early 90s, Phil, where basically they said, hey, look, the French, they eat whatever they want.

45:12They don't exercise. They smoke and they're still pretty healthy. Could it be the red wine? I think that's what sort of got a lot of people's interest. But then over the last 30 years, the negative health impacts of alcohol have become increasingly clear. And I think that's really what's driven the concern about alcohol, especially when it comes to blood pressure. Phil, by the way, I thought this was interesting. Only about half the country, 54 % of adults say they drink nowadays. I don't know if that number sounds high or low to you, but that's where it stands now. And it's sort of, you know, it's changed over time over the last 30, 40 years.

45:44About half the country says even a small amount of alcohol, one or two drinks a day is bad for your health. And this is overwhelmingly young people, Phil, that are saying this. So the attitudes toward alcohol really seem to be changing and more so among younger people. So we'll see what this means in the future. Yeah, it's been a dramatic pendulum shift, it seems. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, as always, my friend, thanks so much. Yeah. And again, Sanjay is taking your questions. Scan the QR code on your screen to submit a question. Dr. Sanjay Gupta will be back tomorrow to answer some of those of your questions.

46:17Well, the breaking news right now, President Trump just wrapping up his visit with National Guard troops in D.C. More of his message there. That's next.

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47:34Welcome to The Lead. I'm Phil Mattingly in for Jake Tapper. This hour, presidential field trip. Trump joined the National Guard and federal law enforcement at the U.S. Park Police Headquarters in a show of support for federal law enforcement. Instead of handing out tickets, Trump's team handed out burgers. Plus, Russia continues to pound Ukraine, killing even more civilians. Trump fires back. It's a peace deal now going up in smoke. And exclusive new CNN reporting out of Uvalde, Texas, in the aftermath of the mass school shooting at Robb Elementary, the attack that left 19 students and two teachers dead.

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48:23The lead tonight, President Trump just visited U.S. Park Police headquarters in Washington, D.C. as he pushes to federalize the nation's capitol's police force in response to what he says is a public safety emergency. And he made the visit as data shows violent crime rates in D.C. have fallen over the past two years. CNN's Alana Treen starts us off at the White House. CNN's Brian Todd is out on the streets in D.C. Alana, to start with you, the president just wrapped up. What stood out to you in his remarks? Yeah, I mean, look, I think, obviously, President Donald Trump is a showman, and this seemed a bit like a photo op.

48:57You know, he went out there to thank some of the federal law enforcement here in D.C. He actually went to one of the rougher parts of town, Anacosta, where the Park Police Center was. And there were some 300 National Guardsmen, FBI, ATF, DA, the list goes on, of different law enforcement agents out there while the president addressed them. I note that he was ad-libbing, but he talked a lot about, you know, thanking them for the work that they've done. He'd argue that D.C. has never been so safe. People can finally go to restaurants, although I'd argue that's an exaggeration. But some things that I found really interesting, he talked a lot about wanting to not just revive the city from a crime perspective and try to bring down crime, but he also said he wants to work on making it more beautiful.

49:41He talked a lot about grass, saying that by the time he's done with this city, it's going to look like a Trump National Golf Club. He said they're going to be taking down signs, having all new grass, all new everything is how he put it in his words. And then he said after he made some comments, you saw that he was accompanied by people like Attorney General Pampandi, the Interior Secretary, Doug Berman, Stephen Miller, Susie Wiles. The list goes on. Had some of them speak. And then he said that he was going to be handing out burgers that were cooked here at the White House and then also some pizzas.

50:15But I want you to take a listen to how he framed some of the efforts of the law enforcement agents that he was addressing. This Capitol is right now after four days, five days. It's at a level that you haven't seen in a long time. And it's all because of you. So, again, you're saying he's saying it's a level you haven't seen before. It's all because of you. This is, again, really a chance to draw more attention to what he's trying to do in D.C. And, of course, paint himself like he's been trying to do as, you know, a law enforcement president. And that's exactly what this was. It was kind of a staged photo op like we saw yesterday with the vice president and the defense secretary going to Union Station and handing out food to some of the law enforcement who were staged there.

50:59Brian Todd, over to you. You're down in Anacostia where the event took place. What usually happens at that facility? What did you and your team see? Well, Phil, I'll kind of take you a little bit toward the fence line here where the president arrived. He came into that compound right there. That is the U.S. Park Police, Anacostia Park Station headquarters. It's not the overall headquarters of the Park Police, but it is a major staging ground. And what we can tell you is that this is a major staging point for all the federal law enforcement that has taken part in this law enforcement surge in Washington.

51:29You're talking about National Guard, Park Police, Metropolitan Washington Police, the U.S. Marshals, DEA. They all come in and out of here on a given night. That's why the president wanted to come in here. Elena mentioned he came in here in a motorcade. Attorney General Pam Bondi arrived a short time right after him in a second vehicle there. As Elena mentioned, they gave some food out to the team there and gave them words of thanks. This also comes, guys, as the White House is touting more arrests last night. They said they made a total of 77 arrests last night. I'm talking about the federal and local combined task force making 77 arrests last night.

52:05That is above the number of an average night in D.C., which we're told before the surge averaged about 50 to 55 arrests per night. So they said they arrested 77 people last night. And according to the White House, as of about midday today, about 630 total arrests have been made since this operation started on August 7th. And according to the White House, that includes 251 illegal immigrants, three known gang members, and they also say that they have seized several dozen grams of heroin during this entire operation. So a lot of that, Phil, is staged right out of this facility. That's one of the key reasons that the president wanted to come here this evening.

52:41Hey, Brian, while I've got you, you've been out in D.C. talking to residents a ton over the course of the last couple of days. What are you hearing from them?

52:51Yeah, first of all, many of them are just irate that this operation is going on in their neighborhoods. A few days ago, we were at a neighborhood in Northwest D.C. at the corner of 14th and V Streets Northwest, a popular area for bars and restaurants. And we were there fairly late at night where the Metropolitan Washington Police, along with some federal agents, set up a checkpoint to flag down motorists. They were pulling people over randomly. We saw them arrest two people and take them away. All the time that they were doing that, there were hundreds of residents lining both sides of the streets screaming at them, saying they don't want them here, that their presence isn't welcome.

53:28And one big point of contention, Phil, is that they do not like the fact that a lot of the federal agents seem to be wearing masks. The Metropolitan Washington Police largely do not wear masks, but a lot of the federal agents are wearing masks. And here's what Mayor Muriel Bowser had to say about that. We believe in our environment, an urban environment, that there's no reason for any official to wear a mask. Now in that same news conference, Mayor Bowser said that she also doesn't believe that the National Guard should be taking part in any kind of law enforcement. And what we do have to say about that is they have not been making arrests.

54:05They have not been carrying weapons, the members of the National Guard. They have been there to help provide security for other law enforcement that is doing that kind of thing. And they are also manning areas around monuments and metro stations. That has been so far the scope of their mission, Phil. All right, Brian Todd for us out in Anacostia. Elena Treen from the North Lawn of the White House. Thank you guys very much. I want to bring in the panel now because we've got a lot to digest. Grass, not even in like a funny drug reference, just like the literal grass. Did you see it was a focal point, which I have lots of thoughts about.

54:37Gorman, I want to start with you. The idea of, it's clear they think this is a winning political issue. That was the reason they were at Union Station yesterday with the vice president and the secretary of defense. It's why Trump is doing this today. How long is this, like, Are we going to be doing this every day until 2028? I think if Democrats keep falling into this trap, then yes. I mean, look, he loves baiting them into issues where Republicans intensively respond with action. And Democrats come with charts and stats saying that people that whatever policy is affecting, you're not really feeling what you're feeling.

55:07They did it on the economy last year, immigration. Over and over they do this and they keep falling for it. And so, again, I think Trump understands the power of imagery. It's no secret he had J.D. out yesterday, Trump today. And importantly, right, JDSJ had lunch with the officers over at Union Station. Today they're giving him food, showing support. He gets it in a way that Democrats keep falling for it. And when he's doing this, he's not having to talk about the Epstein file. He's not having to talk about the economy. He's talking about the price of everyday goods. Folks at home should know I live in Washington, D.C., and 92 percent of people in D.C.

55:39voted for Kamala Harris. When have we saw Donald Trump care that immensely about 92 percent that are Democrats? We never have. Let me go a little deeper on what you said about the midterms. It's more than just the midterms. We know he's doing it for the imagery. I get that. As a political consultant, it's brilliant. But here's the real reason. There's not one marginal congressional seat that sits in an inner city of a city. We know that. They're all safe Democrats. But around the cities, in the same media markets, in these suburban districts, are very marginal seats that we're going to try to win and they're going to try to win.

56:08This is what he's doing here. He's going to be able to say, I cleaned up this city to scare somebody in the suburbs into saying, man, them Republicans did a good job there. whether they did or they didn't. That's an astute observation that I don't think people are paying close. But I'm the only one here who didn't go to college and I came up with that Gorman just after. Yeah, but Gorman's that guy that Trump keeps referencing. Keep in mind, Gorman's the guy that Trump keeps referencing that hadn't been out to dinner for four years. So like we're cutting, it's so good he has. You've been inside the U.S.

56:33Attorney's Office in D.C. The technical aspects of the law enforcement elements here, not the photo ops, not what we've seen necessarily the last two days. I want you to listen to one of the things that Trump just said. The crime numbers are way down. I'm looking at you saw some of the stats. They just read them out to me inside the numbers that we haven't seen here ever. We're not playing games. We're going to make it safe and we're going to then go on to other places. But we're going to stay here for a while. We want to make this absolutely perfect. The we're going to stay here for a while is the thing that kind of stuck out to me when I heard because they're on a limited time window here.

57:13What's your sense of how U.S. Attorney's Office officials, career folks, the law enforcement here that are here every day, not from the federal takeover, what are they thinking right now? Well, first and foremost, Phil, I would be remiss if I didn't point out that it's so interesting that the president just showed so much thanks and concern for the law enforcement community when he also just a few months ago blanket pardoned all of those January 6th defendants who were convicted of assaulting some of these very officers. So I think we also need to continue to talk about that because the hypocrisy is just outrageous.

57:46Now, to your specific question, I have so many questions about what the president just said about these statistics. I was actually the deputy chief in the charging section in the U.S. Attorney's Office. And so I want to know, what are these arrests? Are they all guns coming off the street or are they low-level misdemeanor offenses? Who is going to be trying all of these cases? I mean, we're hearing that the streets are so safe. To keep them safe, that means we need to be getting violent criminals off the streets. And those violent criminals need to be convicted and put into jail. So you're asking about the mechanics.

58:19Well, we need enough AUSAs to go into court and try these cases if they're actually bringing in violent criminals. Then we also need a court system that is going to sentence them to custodial sentences. That is something that the District of Columbia struggles with. that's a lot of factors that are outside of the president's control. And I don't think touting 600 arrests over a week's period of time is actually curing the crime ills of the District of Columbia, which some are very real. Yeah. No, Tom, this is actually where I've been fixated because you can see the trap that people walk into that Matt was pointing out.

58:57Crime is real. People want crime to go down. This is going to have a deterrent effect just by sheer scale. that's true. How this actually works going forward and how much the White House understands about what they want to happen going forward is where I'm stuck right now. Sure. And a lot of interesting things going on here. One thing is the time limit point that you mentioned. What is going to happen in 30 days or a little less than 30 days now is at least an inflection point. Because in theory, at least under the law, President Trump's authority to control local law enforcement in D.C. will abate to some extent, not fully, but to some extent.

59:29So the first thing is going to be interesting is to see if there is a pullback in 26 days from now. The next thing is to see what happens next, where Trump said we're going to basically take the show on the road. We're using D.C. as a test market. We're going to expand it. That is the other very interesting thing, because the president has very broad authority to exercise national law enforcement power in the District of Columbia. The way that the city's statute is organized, he has that power. He's acting lawfully. But his power is diminished when you're talking about broadening this to Memphis or Los Angeles or to other cities.

59:58And it will be very interesting to see if the president tries to expand what appears to be a policy with broad popular support. I think people in D.C., no matter their political persuasion, recognize D.C. as a crime problem. Even the local police officers has welcomed the additional support. National Guard is providing support. They're not out there on the front lines doing arrests, at least not now. They're providing support. People like it. They respect it. But I think it is going to be very interesting to see what happens when the administration, as I'm sure it will, tries to broaden this model and deploy it in other cities across the nations where the law is different.

1:00:29You think that's the plan? It could be. And it wouldn't be a bad idea in turn politically, certainly. I think it could be very, very smart. You think so? We'll see how it plays for the midterms. I think people have had enough of it. What should I be watching in the next week or two weeks? Well, I think we should be watching exactly what Tom said to see if the president is signaling that he wants to stay in the District of Columbia for over 30 days. I mean, he needs to get congressional approval. There needs to be a joint resolution to continue the federal law enforcement presence. So let's just look to see if the president wants to exceed these 30 days.

1:01:02And let's, to everybody's point here, let's see what public support is. I mean, I think we did hear about the gentleman who had not left his house in four years. I think that's hyperbole. But I do think the reality is that many of us who do live here have been wanting some sort of help with some of the crime problems. So let's see if public support continues. They're taking the show on the road. Yeah, it seems that way. And I was kidding. Matt Gorman is not the guy. It's good to be back out. It really is. It's great. We're all happy to be here. This is great. I appreciate you guys very much. Well, Russia has launched its largest drone and missile salvo on Ukraine in more than a month amid recent efforts for peace agreement.

1:01:37We're going to bring you the latest developments on the Russia-Ukraine war. That's next. And an update to the breaking news at Villanova University just outside of Philadelphia. There were reports of an active shooter on campus. But the president of the university has just reported that this was a hoax, a cruel joke. But good news, no one was hurt.

1:01:57Topping our world lead, nine people killed in massive Russian strikes across Ukraine today. Missiles also struck an American-owned electronics factory in western Ukraine, injuring 19 people. A spokesperson for the company, Flex, tells CNN six had to be hospitalized and stressed the company does not make any military equipment. The largest attack in a month comes as Russia accuses Ukraine of not being interested in a long-term peace deal. Today, the Kremlin also poured cold water on a potential summit between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky. This morning, President Trump expressed his frustration with the war, saying, quote, It is very hard, if not impossible, to win a war without attacking an invader's country.

1:02:38It's like a great team in sports that has a fantastic defense, but is not allowed to play offense. Biden would not let Ukraine fight back, only defend. Trump also posted this photo pointing at Putin alongside a similar historic photo of then-Vice President Richard Nixon berating Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev during the 1959 Kitchen debate over the merits of capitalism versus communism. Joining us now, Republican Congressman Mike Lawler from New York is on the Foreign Affairs Committee. Congressman, what the president said about Ukraine not being allowed to be on offense enough. Does that mean we should expect a big push for more weapons and weapons systems going forward?

1:03:20Well, this was one of my big frustrations from the very beginning of this conflict. President Biden and his administration, Jake Sullivan and Antony Blinken, put way too many restrictions on Ukraine's ability to prosecute the war and proactively attack Russia and Russian troops in Russian territory, especially given the very aggressive posture that Russia took. In addition, they slow walked way too many of the weapons and failed to enact crippling secondary sanctions on Russia. And this is a big problem I've had with the Europeans. They continued to purchase Russian gas throughout this entire conflict?

1:04:05How do you stop a war on the one hand when you're funding it on the other? And that really is the crux of the challenge here in dealing with Vladimir Putin, a vile dictator and thug, who really, at the end of the day, you know, he was a KGB officer. He's a killer. Right. He has no moral compass whatsoever, which is why we see this conflict, you know, continue on with so much death and destruction. So in the absence of a ceasefire, in the absence of a peace negotiation, if Putin continues to persist and refuses to negotiate a peace deal, then not only should the U.S. continue to support Ukraine with ammunitions and military equipment.

1:05:01But the secondary sanctions need to be enacted and the Europeans need to stop purchasing Russian gas effective immediately. Do you see an intentional message in the strikes of an American factory just one week after the summit in Alaska? No question. And I think when you look at Vladimir Putin and who he is to his core, he's evil. I think President Trump is right to try and broker a peace agreement. The only way you can get there, unfortunately, is by engaging Vladimir Putin directly. The reality is, in the absence of U.S. troops going into Ukraine, in the absence of European troops going into Ukraine, obviously it's very difficult to outright win this war.

1:05:54and ultimately Putin knows that and that's why he continues to persist. But I think there are steps that can be taken to really put the screws to Putin and Russia so long as they refuse to come to a ceasefire agreement. I want to ask you before I let you go about gerrymandering, about what we've seen down in Texas. Democrats in California right now are trying to pass their proposed constitutional amendment to temporarily redraw their congressional maps. You've called both Republican and Democratic efforts partisan and said very clearly Congress needs to step in here. How is that effort going so far?

1:06:33Well, I'm in the process of finalizing legislation and will be introducing it. But this is the real crux of the problem, Phil. If you look three decades ago, there were over 100 competitive seats in Congress. Today, less than 35. Last November, only 35 seats were decided by five points or less. And based on this effort to redistrict across the country, it could be even fewer than that. I want to point out one thing that's important to recognize, though. New York actually engaged in mid-decade redistricting last year at the behest of Hakeem Jeffries. Democrats, after getting thrown out in the Court of Appeals in New York, their gerrymandered map back in 22, A court of appeals drew a fair map by a court-appointed special master.

1:07:23Republicans picked up 11 seats. As a result, Hakeem Jeffries demanded action by Kathy Hochul, who made very clear that she would take every step necessary to help Democrats win back control of the House. And so they corrupted the court of appeals, stacked it, got a favorable ruling ordering a new set of maps, and then proceeded to gerrymander again, winning four seats as they tried to win five, mine being the fifth. Now they are going for a third attempt at gerrymandering New York's maps. So this is, you know, when when Democrats like Kathy Hochul or Gavin Newsom point the finger at Calif at Texas, they have to look in the mirror because the reality is that Democrats and Republicans have been doing this for years, but Kathy Hochul actually did mid-decade redistricting just last year.

1:08:19I gotta say, the institution's a lot more fun to cover when there are more frontline members. I imagine it's a lot more fun to serve in as well. Republican Congressman Michael Ollar of New York, always appreciate your time. Please come back soon and tell us about the bill you're working on on this issue. Appreciate it. Thanks, Phil. Well, up next, a CNN exclusive more than three years after the massacre in Uvalde, Texas, what we're learning about key documents held back despite a court order.

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1:09:24First, you're just watching eBay Live. Then, a Fendi baguette goes for an absolute steal. A 90s NASCAR jacket comes up, and you have to bid. That winning feeling? It's such a rush. because you know everyone else wanted it too. Meanwhile, on eBay Live, you don't just watch the action, you're in it. Download the eBay app to stream and shop live. eBay Live, things people love. In our Law and Justice lead exclusive, new CNN reporting in the aftermath of the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, an attack that left 19 students and two teachers dead. CNN Shimon Prokopas and Lee Waldman are here, And Lee, I want to start with you.

1:10:08You've learned Uvalde school officials are still holding back key documents despite a court order for their release. Phil, it's been more than three years of our team fighting for this information from the school district relating to this shooting to be released. And we're now learning from our sources that the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District is withholding documents despite a court order ordering them to release such documents as these. Now, we've reviewed some of these never-before-seen emails, and they contain potentially damning information, including at least a 99-page file on the former Robb Elementary principal, Mandy Gutierrez, where she raised concerns about safety and maintenance at Robb Elementary, specifically regarding doors being closed or locked nine months before this shooting ever took place.

1:10:57We're also learning that there are 48 pages of correspondence related to the former UCISD police chief Pete Arredondo's termination. Correspondence from the school district officials and Arredondo's then lawyer talking about a settlement offer prior to him being terminated from the school district three months after this shooting happened. Now, we know that he and other officers were fired. He is also facing criminal charges in relation to the response to that shooting where a gunman was in a classroom with kids who are dying or dead for more than 77 minutes. Now, over 500 megabits of data were prepared to be released from the school district.

1:11:37And we are still missing over 100 megabits of that data with no explanation from the district. Siobhan, you have spent so much time with the victims' families, with the community kind of writ large in the wake of the shooting. Explain the significance here and how they're reacting. Yeah, and so has Lee, Phil, I should note. She was a local reporter there in San Antonio, and she knows this story just as well as I do. And this is why when we both got together and we started hearing that there was more information, it was such a head-scratcher because we know what this community has been through.

1:12:12what the survivors have been through, what the teachers who survived this horrific day have been through. And the idea that there was this expectation that everything would be released and then it wasn't. It's a head scratcher here. And the families are reeling. I've spoken to some of the former employees of the school, specifically the teacher, Arnulfo Reyes, who somehow survived this horrific day after being shot. I mean, he's pissed. And he wants to know how is he supposed to get closure when all of this keeps happening. And I also spoke to the former mayor, Don McLaughlin, who's now a state legislator.

1:12:49He's pissed. He said, why aren't they just putting everything out there? And it's going to come out eventually. This is such pain for that community and for those families, because every time they try to move on, they can't. The fact that there are emails from the principal, nine months before this happened, she was alerting the school district, the leaders of that school district, that she had concerns over security and the doors being unlocked, and that doesn't get released. Why? Those are requests that we made to that school for this information, and so have the families. And now on Monday, there's going to be a school board meeting.

1:13:24Some of these people are going to show up from the community, and they're going to start demanding even more answers. But the point is, they cannot move on unless everything is released and they start to get some closure. CNN's Shimon Prokopas, Lee Waldman, appreciate your time, what you guys and your teams have done over the course of these last couple of years. Extraordinarily important work. Well, coming up, a Minneapolis small business owner is sharing the impact of Trump's tariffs on her company. That's next.

1:13:54We're back now with The Money Lead. And right now, the most powerful economic policymakers in the world are in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, for one of the most consequential gatherings of the year. The big event, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell's keynote address tomorrow. Remarks delivered at a moment, Powell and the Fed are facing unrelenting attacks from President Trump and his top allies. Now, at this point, it's pretty clear Trump has resigned to the fact he can't or won't actually fire Powell. It's very disruptive if you fire. I would remove him in a heartbeat, but they say it would disturb the market.

1:14:27That rather rational view, which Trump's top economic advisors have voiced behind closed doors since his first term, is based on facts and data and a clear-cut economic history of dramatic pitfalls that coincide with the central bank's waning independence. But it also has the potential to obscure the stakes of the new front in Trump's unrelenting war on the Fed, this one targeting Governor Lisa Cook. Now, Trump's Federal Housing Finance Agency director, Bill Pulte, seemingly out of the blue, sparked the latest offensive this week, posting a referral to the Justice Department alleging the Biden Fed appointee had committed or potentially committed mortgage fraud.

1:15:03Now, Pulte has also been the most unrelenting Trump attack dog when it comes to a massive pressure campaign to get Powell to lower rates. He's called for Powell to resign. He blasted out a statement on official agency letterhead citing, quote, reports that Jerome Powell is considering resigning when no such reports actually existed. Pulte then proceeded to cite those non-existent news reports in a post two days later saying the economy would boom like never before. He drafted the termination letter Trump would later wave in front of a group of House Republicans during an Oval Office meeting earlier this month, according to sources.

1:15:40and he then proceeded to again claim this. Well, I can't get inside of his head, but I can tell you what I'm hearing is that he's considering it. He was not, in fact, considering it, but as Powell, still Fed chair, prepares to give remarks tomorrow, Pulte has launched an all-out blitz on Lisa Cook, the Biden-appointed Fed governor. On social media, Pulte has said Cook is, quote, cooked and that Trump has cause to fire Lisa Cook. Then, like clockwork, Trump took to his own social media to say, Cook must resign now. So while Trump has clearly concluded he can't and won't fire Powell for now, what's always been true is that the Fed chair doesn't actually unilaterally control the central bank.

1:16:23That's the responsibility of the Fed's board of governors. Seven seats held by Senate confirmed presidential appointees. Two of Trump's appointees have sided with his view that rate cuts are needed. A Biden appointee actually left the board earlier this month, opening up a third seat for Trump to fill. And Trump moved rapidly to appoint his top White House economist, Stephen Myron, for that seat. Sources tell me White House officials have spent the last few weeks laying the groundwork, furiously so, for a rapid confirmation process to get Myron into place by the September Fed meeting. That would give Trump three ideologically aligned members of the board.

1:17:01Now, should Cook depart, either via resignation or termination, Trump would have a clear path to a 4-3 majority of his appointees, and with it, de facto operational control of the Fed, and more influence over the voting committee in charge of the interest rate cuts he so desperately wants. What I'm saying, and this is a long way of saying it, is the effort to force Cookout isn't some random shiny object to draw headlines. If successful, it would give Trump a clear path to what he so desperately craves, control of the Fed, even with Powell as chair. Now, Cook has denied wrongdoing. There's been no proof beyond Pulte's referral.

1:17:44Trump's ability to fire a Fed governor for cause is a dicey and rather untested legal authority that would rattle markets in and of itself. And let's be clear, nobody's actually defending mortgage fraud here, alleged or otherwise. But today, a Justice Department official sent Powell a letter that signaled the start of an actual investigation into Cook. In the meantime, the official wrote, Powell should remove Cook from the board, which is strange because Powell doesn't actually have that authority. There's no funny business here. This is straightforward stuff. Yeah, no funny business. Oh, okay.

1:18:25Straightforward? Actually, when you piece everything together, it really is. Just not necessarily in the way Pulte is spinning things. Let's go now to our Business Leader series, where we talk to small business owners from coast to coast about the real impact of tariffs. Vinaigrette is a small olive oil and vinegar shop in Minneapolis that began as a passion project during the 2008 recession. Now, it's a local staple built on high-quality imports from around the world. Co-owner Sarah Pippenberg joins me now. Sarah, you started your business during a rough economic period. What has the impact of tariffs been in comparison to 15 years ago?

1:19:05Well, first of all, Phil, I want to thank you for giving me an opportunity to share my story. The impact of these tariffs have hit me in every single aspect of my business. not only in the oils and the vinegars that I import from all over the world, but down to my containers, down to the bottles that I use, down to the lids from my bottles, down to the shrink wrap from my bottles. All aspects of my business have been impacted by these tariffs, and it's been pretty substantial. How do you, I guess, what has your response been As a business owner, do you raise prices? Are you cutting other expenses?

1:19:52It's an incredibly difficult position to be put in. It has been, and we've done a little bit of both. We just recently took a price increase based on the finalization of the EU tariffs at 15%. But the thing I also have is I import products from Morocco, Egypt, Lebanon, Tunisia, all over. And the fluctuating tariff has been extremely difficult to navigate around. We have decided as of the 1st of August to put the tariff charge, the 15 % for the EU tariffs, onto our customers. And it's listed as a line item now on their receipts. Stores like yours are so, I think, important to a community, the kind of connective tissue, not just the products themselves.

1:20:51How are people responding when they see that? What are they telling you about this moment? um it's really hard um they when they see it there's a little bit of a you know sticker shock and we know that we're a luxury item and my fear is that we will lose some of our customers as a result and we have seen a little bit of a decline in our sales and again with the expenses of every aspect of things that we're doing going up, it has, you know, made us late on our rent. It has made us late paying our employee. As a result, I've also gotten a second job. So as much as I can do to cut expenses, I too am an American consumer and I'm feeling the pinch in my everyday life, just as well as in my business.

1:21:53Just quickly before I let you go, because I really appreciate your time here. If you could say one thing to policymakers about tariffs, what would it be in this moment? It's a lie to believe that anyone else but the American consumer is paying for these tariffs. and what I'm afraid of is we are going to drastically change the Main Street businesses that make our communities and I'm afraid over time what's gonna happen and it's been extremely difficult to continue this but what I'm afraid of is to watch all the doors of other businesses. The next door to us is a coffee shop. Are they going to have to close as a result of the Brazil tariffs?

1:22:48There isn't an aspect, there isn't an industry, there isn't a segment of consumerism that has not been impacted by these tariffs. And I'm afraid of what the landscape will look like when this is all said and done. You can look for Vinaigrette in Minneapolis or shop for their products online. Sarah Piper, I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. I appreciate yours. Well, ahead, China's preparations for its most revealing military parade in years and one big name on the guest list, Russian President Vladimir Putin. We'll go there next.

1:23:32In our world lead, China is intensely preparing for its upcoming massive military parade. Warplanes, a synchronized military, and tanks adorned with the latest weapons, all meant to show off China's bold display of power. World leaders will also be in attendance, including Russian leader Vladimir Putin. CNN's Mark Stewart has more on the message behind China's show of force.

1:23:56A synchronized show of strength in China, soldiers march in formation late into the night. A dress rehearsal for a massive military parade less than two weeks away for the entire world to see, celebrating 80 years since World War II ended. What kind of message do you think this parade will send to the world from China? I believe that this military parade will have a big international influence. especially in showcasing our military might. It's going to be a great event. There's excitement here among the locals, a rare chance to get up close to these war machines. And this mysterious sight, warheads wrapped like gifts until the big reveal.

1:24:47Fighter jets soar in the sky as the world's largest military is set to show off its latest additions, including drones and hypersonic weapons. A point of pride as China faces constant tension with the U.S. and its allies over its claims to the South China Sea and Taiwan. We're driving here along Tiananmen Square. The seats are now empty, but this is where we will see Chinese officials and world leaders, including Russia's Vladimir Putin. And the parade will extend here along Chang 'an Avenue for miles.

1:25:26The 70-minute parade is a chance for Chinese President Xi Jinping to show off in front of world leaders, as he did during the victory parade 10 years ago. Parades like this eclipse similar events in the United States. The bold display comes as China asserts itself as a strong superpower. Now China is acting more outward-looking and more assertive. I think this is in line with China's current strength. China, first row. Strength now tested by the U.S. trade war in a shaky domestic economy. This show of muscle aims to bring feelings of stability to the billion-plus people who live here and sending a message to the world, China is a force.

1:26:12Mark Stewart, CNN, Beijing. All right, thanks to Mark Stewart for that report. Well, coming up, two major airline carriers facing class action lawsuits for selling windowless window seats. That's next.

1:26:30Our last lead start in the law and justice lead in a major legal victory for President Trump. New York's State Court of Appeals today threw out the nearly half-billion-dollar penalty imposed in the civil fraud case against Trump and his family real estate business. New York Attorney General Letitia James brought the case in 2022, accusing them of inflating Trump's net worth to obtain favorable loan terms. A judge last year ruled Trump liable for fraud and a finding that was not overturned by the appeals court today. Well, in our money lead, Delta and United Airlines are facing lawsuits over selling windowless window seats.

1:27:07Certain aircraft models by both companies contain windowless sections due to mechanical configuration. The passengers say that this isn't flagged during the booking process. Plaintiffs are now seeking millions of dollars in damages for over one million passengers at each carrier. And in our pop culture lead, Brent Hines, the Grammy-winning co-founder of the heavy metal band Mastodon, has died after a motorcycle accident in Atlanta. He was 51. Hines was an influential metal guitarist, songwriter, and vocalist.

1:27:43After 25 years together, Hines and Mastodon parted ways in March. In an Instagram post, the band said, it is in a state of unfathomable sadness and grief. We'll leave you with his own words during the making of Mastodon's last album. I like trains. I like justice. I like to be a guiding force to lost souls. and I like to, because I've been there. I like to do a lot of shit. I like to help people, you know? That's what I mainly like to do. You can follow the show on X at The Lead CNN. If you ever miss an episode of The Lead, you can listen to the show wherever you get your podcasts. Aaron Bernadette Out Front starts now.

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