Sources: DOJ Indicts Trump Adversary NY AG Letitia James

26:07Well, these judges were not really buying that. I mean, two of the judges were bringing up issues that were going on here back in July, in June, in August, in September, when some of the protests were more heated. And the government here, the Department of Justice, was arguing that they have already brought more resources here, more federal officers. But that's not enough. Those federal officers, A, are being pulled from different duties. Their jobs are being strained, and they need help. And that is one of the reasons why they need National Guard here. And right now, based on these arguments that we heard, it seems like they're going to allow this to happen, Jake.

26:45Meanwhile, National Guard troops from Texas are already in Chicago. Omar Jimenez, how did today's hearing over Illinois' lawsuit against President Trump for deploying these troops? How did that go? Well, after a break, they are just getting back into session right now. And what we're watching closely for is really what the judge will actually rule on, whether the presence of National Guard troops here, particularly from Texas, is legal. Now, throughout the day, I should say, Judge Perry seemed skeptical, at least on a few fronts. But one of the things that was really interesting was that for all of the rhetoric about Guard troops coming here and the reasons for them being here, the judge really tried to dial in on what the legal arguments were here from the federal Trump administration.

27:30For example, she asked whether the National Guard troops could be seen not just at federal properties, but out in neighborhoods or around schools. And the DOJ responded saying, well, this would specifically be if there were federal agents or properties out in those areas. She also asked, would the National Guard be part of solving crime in the city, since the implication of the Guard being here is that it would help drive down violent crime? And they said, well, to an extent, but again, in a federal protective capacity. And it led to the judge even concluding at one point saying, if the administration's position was that the guard was needed here to help solve problems on federal property, we would be in a very different place.

28:12But that is not where we are. And so that is why we were watching very closely again, as court just got back into session a few minutes ago, where we are here in Broadview, just outside Chicago, outside this ICE detention facility. There have been a few protesters that have come throughout the day. You might be able to see that big sign that says no troops in our streets. The numbers have been small, but we have observed members of the National Guard sort of patrolling the area outside the federal detention facility. But nothing really beyond that. And things have remained relatively calm here.

28:44But we will see what the judge rules potentially today or if we'll get something a little bit later, Jake. All right. Shimon Prokopos in Portland, Oregon. Omar Jimenez just outside Chicago. Thanks to both of you. We're getting new reaction just in from New York Attorney General Letitia James, the Democrat who was indicted today by President Trump's Justice Department. Stay with us.

29:07Just in a video statement from New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat and perceived political opponent of President Trump's who was just indicted by the U.S. Justice Department.

29:19This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system. He is forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding. All because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General. These charges are baseless, and the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost. Let's bring in our political panel, Chris Gallant, who is running for Congress in New York as a Democrat. New York won. And Mar Gillespie, former press advisor to Republican House Speaker John Boehner. Chris, first to you, your reaction to this indictment of yet another Trump political foe.

30:08I think that this is just a distraction. That's always kind of what it's been. We're just distracting from what the real issues are. I feel like Washington is broken right now. There's like a lot of issues that we need to focus on. It comes down to working families and making sure that we can help working families here. This is just another distraction over and over again. And Mara, it does seem like this is the second political adversary that the president mentioned in that truth social message that the Wall Street Journal reported was accidentally posted publicly. It was supposed to be a private message to Attorney General Bondi.

30:40Comey was indicted. Now, Letitia James, what do you think? I think Trump getting them indicted in and of itself is the win for him. Whether he loses these cases or not, I don't think he really cares. I think dragging people through the mud who he promised to hold accountable is a win for him. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying that's probably what he's viewing as a victory for himself. Let's turn to the government shutdown. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, was on CNN this morning, was very clear on who she thinks is to blame for this. I see the shutdown completely different from maybe my party leadership.

31:16And I'm not putting the blame on the president. I'm actually putting the blame on the speaker and Leader Thune in the Senate. This should not be happening. And I don't think, look, as a member of Congress, we already have a low enough job approval rating. This shutdown is just going to drive everybody's approval rating that much lower. I'm actually pretty surprised to hear her blame Speaker Johnson and Leader Thune. Most Republicans, almost every other Republican I've heard from, are blaming the Democrats. What's interesting is that she's taking the opportunity to blame them, but making a point not to blame the president.

31:52I think it's really a clear delineation there. But she's not wrong in the sense that this is a problem that is going to see itself play out in the next few weeks. because the health care conversation, yes, Republicans are going to say that they have this bill, they want to get it done. It reminds me of 2013. Barack Obama refused to talk to Republicans and my former boss until the shutdown was over to negotiate anything. He refused to negotiate anything until the shutdown threat was off the table. And so I understand that the Democrats feel as though if they do go to the table after ends the shutdown, what happens to those health care subsidies?

32:26The leveraging chip they think that they have right now, they worry that it won't get resolved. And Marjorie Shelley Green is pointing out to the fact that her constituents are very concerned about the cost of living, including health care costs, that isn't being addressed currently. But to say that she doesn't blame the president for any of this, I mean, the cost of living hasn't gone down as promised. So I don't know how she can avoid that entirely. Chris, this is something you can relate to. You're a former Black Hawk helicopter pilot. You're a volunteer firefighter, air traffic controller also.

32:51Is that something that you have done or do you do that now? So I'm still currently a Black Hawk pilot in the Army National Guard. So I still fly currently. But your colleague's not getting paid, right? I was a former FAA air traffic controller, they are not getting paid. And it really just adds to the continued stress that the FAA really has, or that air traffic controllers have. They're working 10 hour days, six days a week. That last day when they're home for just a couple hours, you know, just for 24 hours there, they just want to sit down and just not think. To add the stress of working paycheck to paycheck is just not fair to them.

33:28It's not fair to the military members either that are going to possibly have their pay not come in on the 15th. It's just an all-around thing. Nobody wins during a government shutdown. And the biggest problem here is really when it comes down to health care. Our health care really, for working families, is a priority, and it's super important to make sure that we get these things addressed and fixed. And in order to do that, you have to bring Congress people back to work and figure it out. So you're running for Congress. If you were in Congress right now, you would not have to be in Washington because Speaker Johnson has adjourned.

34:00And he appeared, Speaker Johnson appeared on C-SPAN this morning to take questions from callers and a military mom called in. Take a listen. And as a Republican, I'm very disappointed in my party. And I'm very disappointed in you because you do have the power to call the House back. My kids could die. We don't have the credit because of the medical bills that I have to pay regularly. Lee. She's talking about medical bills that she's not going to be able to afford because they're not being paid. I think this highlights that in a shutdown, I've been through three in my time in Congress, the American people are the ones who lose.

34:39There's no winner in a government shutdown. There really isn't. And so what needs to happen is actual conversations, members being there physically, showing the American people that they're doing the work, that they're trying to resolve something to open the government and to continue conversations, not just to have a one-all stop, but just to continue these conversations too. Chris, last word? You know, regardless of any kind of shutdown, no military member should ever have to worry about their pay, period. They're already paid nothing. Correct. And for a military member to have to work paycheck to paycheck is just completely unacceptable.

35:12Can you imagine being like a special operator in Somalia right now or something, and you're not getting paid, and your wife and your kid can't afford groceries for the kids. It's unbelievable. Chris and Mara, thanks to both of you. Appreciate it. Coming up, U.S. citizens detained by ICE agents in California. One man said he had had his passport in his hand when he was being arrested. What's going on here? That story's next.

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36:14Have I Got News for Your Ears releases new episodes every Wednesday. Don't miss an episode. Follow us wherever you get your podcasts. In our national lead, a series of incidents in the Los Angeles area where U.S. citizens say they were detained by ICE agents because of their race. That's what they're saying. This comes one month after the U.S. Supreme Court backed President Trump's push to allow mobile immigration enforcement patrols in Southern California, or what critics are calling roving patrols. CNN's Veronica Miracle spoke with one man detained who said he had his U.S. passport in hand.

36:50So where exactly were you arrested? One of them pretty much points me out like, hey, get him, he's Mexican. So that's when they throw me down to the ground on this side. Javier Ramirez says he was carrying his U.S. passport the moment federal agents entered his family tow yard in a suburb of Los Angeles. Even then, Ramirez says agents violently arrested him. If it wasn't for the cameras, something else would have happened, pretty much. What did they say that you did? They said I bit and spit a federal agent. And that's totally false because you can see clearly in the cameras that I'm not doing anything.

37:26Ramirez is a U.S. citizen born in San Bernardino, California. And he was the only person from the tow yard taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He's an American citizen, bro. Come on. So they accuse you of doing something you didn't do. You're a U.S. citizen. How does it feel to have to go through this whole process? It's scary. It's scary because you don't even know what's going on. Ramirez spent four days behind bars, accused of assaulting, resisting, or impeding an officer. He was released, and the charge was dropped. The whole experience in general was very traumatic.

38:03Ramirez's attorneys say he's one of five U.S. citizens in Los Angeles who filed tort claims against the federal government. All of them claim in separate incidents, they were racially profiled by ICE agents. Across California and the country, some U.S. citizens say they're living in fear, scared of being targeted by ICE because of the color of their skin. One top border official, Gregory Bovino, openly spoke about these tactics to a radio reporter in Chicago, saying intelligence informs where they look for undocumented individuals and went on to say then obviously the particular characteristics of an individual how they look how do they look compared to say you what's your name again chip chip uh you or other folks how do they appear uh in relation to what you or other people look like that's according to an opinion by conservative supreme court justice fred kavanaugh ice agents can stop people at least partially based on their apparent race or whether they can speak English as it contributes to reasonable suspicion when considered with other important factors.

39:09That's according to an emergency ruling by the Supreme Court. Governor J.B. Pritzker says these types of detentions are happening in Illinois. Bovino even admitted on the record that they are making arrests based on how you look. That's the baseline. They're not targeting violent criminals or gang members. They're arresting tamale vendors. In a new interview with CNN, Bovino denies the use of racial profiling and says it's a combination of factors that can lead to an arrest. Perhaps you look scared. Perhaps your demeanor changes. Perhaps you're gripping the steering wheel so tightly that I can see the whites of your knuckles.

39:47There's a myriad of factors. In Los Angeles, where immigration officials have been targeting scores of businesses since June, Many U.S. citizens who aren't white tell me they're terrified, like activist Francisco Moreno. I carry my passport card. I am a U.S. citizen. I am a Mexican citizen. But now I don't feel comfortable without this on my wallet. We don't feel safe. America at this point is not the dream for the immigrants.

40:22And Jake, we reached out to the DHS about Javier Ramirez. They say he was detained for interference but released once they determined that he was a U.S. citizen with no outstanding warrants. Well, Ramirez tells us that he still hasn't gotten his passport back from ICE. He now carries around two copies of his birth certificate in case he is questioned again. Jake. All right, Veronica Miracle, thank you so much for that. This is CNN Breaking News.

41:15state business in 2022 and 2023. We'll have much more on that story just ahead, but we begin this hour with our world lead. Israel's full cabinet of 25 ministers are meeting right now before they take a final vote on the ceasefire proposal from President Trump. The ministers include the entire Israeli security cabinet, which already approved the plan. If the vote passes in a simple majority, As expected, a ceasefire will officially begin. This marks the very first crucial step of a larger plan to withdraw Israeli troops from the decimated Gaza Strip to agreed upon lines within 24 hours, shown here on a map released by President Trump last week.

41:53Then Hamas, which is labeled a terrorist group by both Israel and the U.S., will release all 48 remaining living and killed hostages within 72 hours. That means that the 20 who are believed to still be alive could be hugging their loved ones as soon as Monday or Tuesday, according to President Trump. In turn, Israel will then begin the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and detainees, along with 1 ,700 Gaza residents in custody. This truly historic moment is rooted in President Trump's 20-point ceasefire plan that was first presented, along with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's support, just last week, September 29th at the White House, just 10 days ago.

42:35Shortly after that, Friday, October 3rd, Hamas said it agreed to enter negotiations to return all Israeli hostages. That's 0.4 of Trump's 20-point plan in exchange for Palestinian prisoners, they said, which is 0.5 of Trump's plan. To understand how we got here, it's worth rewinding just a few weeks. On September 9th, Israel bombed Hamas targets in Qatar's bustling capital of Doha. This prompted Arab countries' leaders that Trump is close with to reach out to him, to urge him to end the conflict as soon as possible. Trump publicly distanced himself from that attack. He had Netanyahu personally apologize to the leader of Qatar.

43:15Then came the United Nations General Assembly. The September 22nd and 23rd meetings proved crucial in turning the tide. Listen to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio praising Trump's efforts in today's cabinet meeting. You convened a historic meeting, not simply of Arab countries, but of Muslim majority countries from around the world, including Indonesia was there, Pakistan was there, and created this coalition behind this plan. Also that week for the UN General Assembly, Western countries such as the UK and Canada and France and Belgium declared their support for a Palestinian state. Prime Minister Netanyahu at the UN gave a speech talking about how many enemies of Israel the IDF had killed.

43:57And some observers thought that week in totem demonstrated how isolated Israel, and to a degree the United States, was on this issue. Trump pushed Netanyahu behind the scenes to accept a plan that Netanyahu had seemed reluctant to embrace. Trump and his team, working hard, secured the help not only of allies such as Qatar, but Turkey's Erdogan to pressure Hamas. News of this deal was announced first by President Trump on social media. That was met with cheers in Gaza and Tel Aviv. It is worth noting that these first five points of the 20-point plan, while significantly ushering in a ceasefire and hostage release, they are an incredible achievement, echoed by Netanyahu, who posted this AI-generated image of President Trump saying, quote, give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize.

44:43he deserves it. And there is much to praise. The ceasefire is expected to be agreed to in mere hours. But the day after phase, the day after phase one has not yet begun. A lot of work remains for the overall peace plan, all 20 points. Parties to the agreement wonder how much of the rest of Trump's 20 point plan can become a reality, given how impossible it's been to get, for example, Hamas, a terrorist group, to agree to lay down arms. That's point six of the plan. Today, the head of the Palestinian mission to the UK also questioned Netanyahu's willingness to see the end of the deal all the way through.

45:21Netanyahu is simply maneuvering and he's just waiting for another opportunity for a loophole somewhere to come back to this. I don't see him taking a decision to end the entire war and to withdraw his forces. There is plenty of skepticism, of course, on all parties' parts. Other questions remain. What happens after the IDF withdraws? What would an international stabilization force even look like? And much more. As is said in the region, trust in God, but tie your camel. CNN's Jeremy Diamond is on the ground in Tel Aviv, where the civilian celebrations have already begun. From celebratory dancing in the streets of Gaza to tears of joy in Tel Aviv's hostage square.

46:07Israelis and Palestinians have waited two agonizing years for this moment. A ceasefire agreement has been struck. All of the hostages will be released, and the war in Gaza is coming to an end.

46:22Amid celebrations, the Israeli cabinet convening to formally approve the deal, which will trigger an immediate ceasefire. Israeli troops will begin withdrawing from parts of Gaza while holding on to 53 percent of the strip, according to an Israeli official. Within 72 hours, humanitarian aid will surge into Gaza and the hostages will go free. President Trump, you have the best crowd in the world. What do you guys have to say to President Trump? Thank you. Thank you. You did it. You did it. Thank you. This is amazing. The hostages will come back. They're all coming back on Monday. Amid a full court press from the United States, a deal brokered in Egypt quickly rippled through the region.

47:12Whoever doesn't have internet and is not aware the war is over, this journalist shouted in the streets of northern Gaza, a ceasefire has been agreed. By daybreak, the news was everywhere. This feeling is the most beautiful feeling I have ever felt, this man says. Today, after two years of suffering, hunger and humiliation, we feel reborn. Today is a day of victory. Israel has yet to declare it, but mediators from Egypt and Qatar say this deal will lead to an end of the war. Moss says the U.S. also provided those assurances. We have received guarantees from the Mediating Brothers and from the American administration all confirming that the war has ended permanently.

47:57In Israel, a festive atmosphere awaits the hostages. For two years, hostage swear has been filled with the sound of protests. But tonight, as you can hear behind me, it is nothing but celebration. Michel Iluz is among those celebrating. I'm familiar with all these kids by poster. And now I will be able to meet them physically. And I'm so excited for them. But for Yeluz, it's bittersweet. His son, Guy, is among 28 deceased hostages in Gaza. I will get him by DNA, by bones. How can I recognize him? How can I be able to bury him without to recognize him? And I'm so afraid from this moment because it's kind of starting of recovering, I hope so.

48:51Adding to the uncertainty, Hamas doesn't know the location of all hostage bodies. And Iluz doesn't know if he'll ever get closure. And Jake, the Israeli cabinet meeting to approve that agreement has been underway now for nearly three hours. There was a special appearance, in fact, during that meeting by the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and his special envoy, Steve Witkoff. their presence in that meeting, a clear indication of the difficult decisions that will lie ahead and the hard work that lies ahead as well in order to turn this agreement, in order to ensure that this agreement truly does represent an end of the war altogether.

49:33Jake. All right, Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv, thank you so much. Joining us now, Michael Oren, the former Israeli ambassador to the United States and Atlantic Council senior fellow Ahmed Fouad al-Khatib, who grew up in Gaza and is an outspoken critic of both Hamas and Prime Minister Netanyahu. Mr. Ambassador, how did he do it? How did President Trump do this? How did he get this done? A combination, Jake. It's always good to be with you, especially on this special day, very special, emotional day. Combination of the use of hard power, and we live in a tough neighborhood in the Middle East, and the fact that President Trump was willing to use power first against the Houthis, then against Iran, gave him tremendous leverage in our area and a combination of personal relationships.

50:17Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner have made personal relationships throughout this region. And, you know, diplomacy is almost like anything else in life. It's 90 % personal relationships. And to be able to take these disparate countries, Turkey, Qatar, who don't necessarily get along with Saudi Arabia and the UAE, certainly not getting along with us, and put us all together to 20 points, which are very, very complex. Look, it took you 10 minutes just to summarize them, right? Very complex. It addressed not just the situation in Gaza, but the conflict in general and the Middle East is an extraordinary, elegant piece of diplomacy.

50:48And it was really this combination of the use of power and personal relationships. Ahmed, Hamas's chief negotiator says the group has received guarantees that the war is over and a permanent ceasefire will be implemented. So that's points one through five. I'm looking at all 20 points. When we look ahead into the next part of the deal, I think point six is Hamas has to lay down arms. Do you anticipate there will be pushback from Hamas? Well, it's great to be back with you, Jake. I don't foresee Hamas cooperating on disarmament. I don't see them cooperating on the entry of an international security force.

51:26They want dominion. They want to reign but not rule directly. And I think that's the concern that I and many in Gaza indeed have, both for the longevity of the agreement and actually having this be a permanent end to the war, as well as for a new dawn, a new future for the coastal enclave, one in which we move away from the armed resistance narrative that brings war, death, destruction, isolation, blockades with it, and nation building and prosperity and connectivity. And some of that is certainly going to be on Hamas. But I would argue that some of that has also been on Prime Minister Netanyahu and the strategy that he adopted throughout the last two years in preventing alternatives to the terror organization from entering the scene.

52:15And we're really going to be paying the price of that strategy for some time to come. Mr. Ambassador, you talked about President Trump's use of hard power. But I also wonder how much Israel's strikes against Hamas targets in Qatar, in Doha, had an impact on making Arab leaders think, we have to stop this now. Israel is now attacking us. Definitely. And, you know, Nisnaud apologized. It's not the first time he's apologized to a Middle Eastern leader. He apologized to Erdogan several years ago for another operation. But yes, Arab leaders said, wait a minute, this can't be contained in Gaza. And they know, they know full well what begins with Israel-Palestine doesn't stay in Israel-Palestine.

52:58It becomes protests in Riyadh, protests in Cairo. And the Arab world, frankly, was fed up with Hamas. They started this war. They brought incredible destruction and instability to the Middle East. Enough, enough. And there was tremendous pressure put on Hamas. There's a lot of talk in this country about the pressure put on Netanyahu. In fact, the matter is the 20 points are pretty pro-Israel. They meet all of Israel's basic war aims. There are some very abstract requirements about the future, about discussing a pathway to a Palestinian state and some type of involvement in the Palestinian Authority in post-war Gaza governance.

53:31But other than that, there are not many requirements, other than releasing these terrorist prisoners from our jails, which are always part of any deal. So ultimately, it was really the Muslim and Arab world saying, enough is enough, we've got to end this thing. Ahmed, you talked about your hopes for what happens to Gaza now. And, you know, from your mouth to God's ears, here's what President Trump had to say today. We're going to create something where people can live. You can't live right now in Gaza. You know, the place is a horrible situation. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. So, yeah, we're going to create better conditions for people.

54:11So the 20-point plan, as you know, includes an economic plan to rebuild and energize Gaza, establish an economic zone. No one will be forced to leave Gaza. Are the people of Gaza, what do you hear? Are they optimistic about what actually can come once this rubble is removed? There's certainly excitement about the prospects of a future. I mean, first and foremost, the bomb stopped falling, rather. That's the number one priority. Then we can surge in humanitarian aid in the short term and slow down the malnutrition and the hunger crisis. then certainly if there is sustained enthusiasm and focus into Gaza and its future beyond the first phase and the release of Israeli hostages and Palestinian prisoners, then absolutely the plan, as presented by President Trump and his team, has immense potential for transforming Gaza and rebuilding it.

55:08And hopefully that is coupled with Arab enthusiasm and interest and pressure on Hamas, but interest in not just rebuilding Gaza, but rejuvenating it and transforming it into a city of the future. Inshallah. Ambassador Michael Oren and Ahmed Bouad Khatib, thanks to both of you. More breaking news this hour. Yet another political adversary of President Trump finds herself indicted. The latest on the charges against New York Attorney General Latisha James is next.

55:42Breaking news in our Law and Justice lead, a brand new video statement from New York's Democratic Attorney General Letitia James, a political adversary of President Trump, who brought charges against him in 2022. She was just indicted by the Justice Department. These charges are baseless. I'm a proud woman of faith. And I know that faith and fear cannot share the same space. And so today I'm not fearful. I'm fearless.

56:37yesterday was he believed a private message to Pam Bondi that he believed that James Comey, Letitia James and Adam Schiff needed to be prosecuted. And now here we are just about 20 days since that post, Jake, and we have seen two of those names come under indictment by the same handpicked U.S. attorney that the president has installed there in the Eastern District of Virginia, which is Lindsey Halligan, someone who was previously his personal defense attorney before he was back inside the White House for his second term, also worked here in the White House Counsel's Office before taking this job after the U.S.

57:08Attorney Eric Siebert was removed from his role. And so now we have seen two of those three names indicted here, which is a pretty brief indictment as you read this, Jake, when you look at what exactly it is that Letitia James is being accused of. And so obviously politically, this is something that the president very much wanted to see happen. I do think it's notable, Jake, that this is coming as the president is in the middle of touting this huge, groundbreaking, potentially Middle East peace deal that he is seeking right now as they are hoping to see the hostages start to be released early next week.

57:42And he's planning to travel there. Now, obviously, this is another major headline that is that is competing with that one that the White House has spent the day touting. Yeah, it's it's it's interesting because he had such great news to talk about today. And this is kind of crowding it out a bit. On the potential ceasefire front in Gaza, President Trump said he wanted to travel to the Middle East soon. Do we know anything more about those possible plans? The White House hasn't made it official, Jake, but we've been talking to officials. They have been trying to stand up a trip. Obviously, it's a lot of planning that goes into any presidential travel, but this is very much something that President Trump wants to be able to be in the Middle East for, given the huge role that he played in this and his top aides, including Steve Wyckoff and Jared Kushner, who, as we saw, have been in Egypt as those negotiations have been playing out over the last 72 hours or so.

58:32And Jake, one big question, in addition to what we are expecting to see in the coming days, which is the release of the hostages, the release of those Palestinian prisoners that are being held in Israel, in addition to the ceasefire, the stopping of hostilities between Israel and Hamas, one thing that we are learning from senior U.S. officials is that about 200 U.S. troops are expected to be sent to the Middle East as part of they are going to be helping monitor this ceasefire deal. It's not just them. We're told that other players from other countries are going to be involved in this, but we're trying to get an understanding of exactly how this is going to play out.

59:08I mean, you can look at Gaza and see what's happened there. The IDF is supposed to be pulling back to this agreed upon line that the two sides had already discussed as part of that 20 point peace plan that the president introduced. And we're also told Jake that CENTCOM is going to have a role in this. And so that's one thing that we're going to be watching closely in the coming days in terms of what that looks like, this civil military coordination to basically ensure that this ceasefire stays in place. And also what happens with Gaza going forward in terms of disarming Hamas, governing Gaza, all the really difficult issues that come in addition to the release of those hostages and the stopping of the attacks in Gaza.

59:48All right, Caitlin Collins, Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Caitlin, of course, is going to have much more coming up on The Source with Caitlin Collins, including an interview with Democratic Senator Ruben Gallego of Arizona. That's tonight at 9 Eastern only on CNN. President Trump today threatened to cut some federal programs that are popular with Democrats if the government shutdown does not end soon. I'm going to get a reaction from a Democratic member of Congress to that threat next.

1:00:15And our politics lead Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill remain deeply deadlocked over how to reopen or whether to reopen the government shutdown. A government as the shutdown stretches into its ninth day. Today, the U.S. Senate rejected two motions to fund the government. This was for the seventh time. How exactly might the shutdown end? We have a perspective from both a Republican lawmaker and a Democratic lawmaker. First to Delaware's Congresswoman Sarah McBride. Congresswoman, thanks for joining us. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer is taking a lot of heat from Republicans after he told Punchbowl News this about the shutdown, quote, every day gets better for us, unquote.

1:00:50He's talking about the politics of this all. What did you think of that statement, every day gets better for us?

1:01:00Well, I think what Leader Schumer was referring to was the growing public support for Democrats and Republicans to come together to fix this healthcare crisis and to reopen government. The overwhelming majority of Americans want us to work together, want Republicans to come to the negotiating table so that we can extend the ACA tax credits and reopen government. We are in this position because Republicans have refused to come to the table to work with us over the last several months. And because of their refusal to collaborate with us, put on their big boy pants and negotiate, Thousands of my constituents are receiving furloughs who work for the federal government, and thousands more are receiving letters notifying them of skyrocketing premiums.

1:01:42We can do both of these things, and the public wants us to do, and I think that's what Leader Schumer was referring to. Well, what the Republicans say is that it's actually Democrats in the Senate refusing to vote for a clean continuing resolution to keep the government open, and which is how we've covered shutdowns in the past when the opposing party, the minority party, refuses to join into forming the 60 votes. That's the party that's refusing to pass government funding. This is just a seven-week funding bill. And the Republicans also say that the stuff about the issues having to do with the Obamacare premiums are a legitimate issue and that it's not for Democrats to demand something that you need to negotiate.

1:02:26Yesterday, I had on um katherine clark uh you're the house uh democratic uh leader and and and she said or whip rather she said that she seemed to suggest that there hadn't been any overtures by house democrats to republicans to get the four or five votes to support obamacare premium shouldn't democrats be doing that just getting the bills getting the votes lined up so you can incredibly say to the american people we have the votes to pass an extension of obamacare premiums and and you know, just let the speaker bring it up for a vote?

1:03:01Well, what's clear is the speaker won't bring it up for a vote. We can't trust them to bring this up for a vote out of goodwill or good intentions. We cannot trust that they will abide by any deal that's done by a handshake. We need this all to be done together because Republicans have kicked the can down the road already. And they clearly are unwilling to solve this healthcare crisis because it's of their own choosing. They created this crisis in order to raid Americans' healthcare so that they can pay partially for the tax breaks for their billionaire donors that they passed in July. And so, look, if Republicans wanted us to just abide by their word, then they wouldn't have conducted themselves over the last several months in a way that shows us time and time again that they cannot be trusted when it comes to their goodwill and their good intentions and when they have clearly tried to make this health care crisis worse.

1:03:57We need a deal on this. They need to come to the table. Congresswoman Sarah McBride, Democrat of Delaware, thank you so much. Appreciate your time. This is CNN Breaking News. And we do have some major breaking news in our world lead for you. Israel's cabinet just approved President Trump's ceasefire deal, which means that the 20 living and 28 killed hostages being held currently in Gaza by the terrorist group Hamas will soon be released to Israel. Let's get right to CNN's Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv. Jeremy, this is pretty big. Without a doubt, Jake, after two years, two long years of captivity for those 48 hostages, but also two years of agony for their families, the Israeli government has now approved this deal that was brokered and breached in an agreement between Israel and Hamas in the early hours of yesterday morning to secure the release of all 48 hostages, 20 of whom are believed to still be alive.

1:05:00Now, the next steps in this process, we expect that a ceasefire will come into effect inside of the Gaza Strip. It's unclear if that ceasefire is already now in effect, but we had indeed been told previously that once the Israeli government approves this deal, a ceasefire would indeed take hold. We are waiting for confirmation on that from the Israeli military itself. But now what we will see is an appeals process through the Israeli Supreme Court for any individuals who want to oppose the release of some of the Palestinian prisoners who will be released from Israeli jails, including 250 of which are currently serving life sentences in Israeli prisons.

1:05:39Once that is complete, we will very quickly see the release of those hostages in Gaza. The Israeli military is also now set to begin its withdrawal of troops from parts of the Gaza Strip to pre-agreed lines of control. And once that withdrawal is complete, there will be this 72-hour countdown until the hostages are released, or at least a maximum of 72 hours. It could happen before that full 72-hour period has elapsed. We've heard President Trump, of course, saying that he believes that the hostages could come out on Monday. That is a date that we've heard as well. But officials here have also indicated there is a possibility this could happen as soon as Sunday.

1:06:21There's no question that that is still a moving target. But a huge moment here, of course. We expected the Israeli cabinet to approve this deal. But to see it actually going through is going to deliver yet another in really what has been a series of sighs of relief for the families of those hostages. And Jeremy, a U.S. official is telling CNN that 200 U.S. service members are being sent to Israel to support the ceasefire. What do the next few hours and days look like? Well, the next few hours and days, I mean, we will initially see the withdrawal of Israeli troops from parts of Gaza. They will move to lines, which will see the Israeli military controlling still 53 percent of the Gaza Strip.

1:07:02And it's not clear what the timeline will be after that, after this hostage release and the release of Palestinian prisoners is completed. How quickly after that will we actually see the Israeli military beginning to hand over territory to this, as of yet, not fully created international security force, which is supposed to start taking over security authority of the Gaza Strip. But these 200 U.S. troops that will be sent on the ground to monitor the implementation of this plan, again, that represents another step in moving towards this international security force. We understand that CENTCOM is likely to have a significant role in the coordination and the implementation of the next phases of this agreement.

1:07:50And again, we still need to see the details on what comes next, what the timeline is for all of this to happen. This issue of Hamas disarming, you know, we haven't actually seen the details of that, whether a final agreement has actually been reached on that front. And so these are nonetheless still delicate days. Again, most of the parties to this agreement, other than Israel, have framed this as an end of the war in Gaza. Israel has not yet. And I think that's part of why we saw Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law, as well as Steve Whitcoff, the U.S. Special Envoy, in this cabinet meeting in the early hours of this morning here in Israel, in order to show the prime minister that they are still standing alongside him, in order to show those right-wing governing allies of the prime minister that the United States has a big, big stake in what happens next, and also perhaps just a recognition of the kind of delicate politics that Netanyahu is going to face going forward in order to implement the next phases of President Trump's plan to end the war and bring all of the hostages home.

1:08:54Yeah, it's a 20-point plan, and it seems as though points one to five are on track, which is fantastic, but there's a lot of work that still needs to be done. Jeremy Diamond in Tel Aviv, Israel, thank you so much. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

1:09:11And we're back with some more breaking news. In our national lead, a federal judge has temporarily blocked the National Guard from deploying to Chicago, Illinois, as President Trump wants. Let's get straight to CNN's Omar Jimenez. Right outside Chicago in Broadview, Illinois, where there's an ICE facility. Omar, tell us what we know. What did this judge rule? yeah so the judge granted the temporary restraining order blocking the deployment of national guard troops here in illinois and while this is an oral ruling here she described it as a high level summary so we haven't gotten her written decision just yet but i'm going to take you through what she described as part of again that high level summary as she described it she cited previous california decisions where she described rebellion as deliberate organized resistance openly opposing the government as a whole and said, I have seen no credible evidence that there has been rebellion in the state of Illinois.

1:10:09Judge April Perry said that the evidence demonstrates the deployment of the National Guard may lead to civil unrest. She finds that deploying the National Guard will only add fuel to the fire that the defendants have started in her characterization. The evidence has shown that National Guardsmen are not well-trained law enforcement officers, she also said. One of the things this came down to, as she made a point to say as part of her oral ruling here, is that the court was left with having to make a, quote, credibility determination. And she called the assessments made by DHS as, quote, unreliable.

1:10:45And she even brought up Broadview here, this facility that we're outside of on the outskirts of Chicago, just outside the city limits. And she described how at one recent protest, There were 200 protesters and there were 100 state and local law enforcement officers on site. And that state and local law enforcement were able to maintain control. She also said that on October 5th, there were a few dozen protesters here and DHS, again, did not have to intervene. And so clearly she was going through a lot of the arguments that have been made, even laying out the definition of rebellion at points, trying to make that very much clear.

1:11:21Now, her written ruling, she said she's going to issue tomorrow, and she says this plaintiff motion has been granted in part. So we are trying to see what the other part essentially is. The overall headline that she made clear at the end was that the temporary restraining order was granted blocking the deployment of National Guard here in Illinois. But again, what those next steps are, we are waiting to see. It is likely, and I think it's fair to say, it is safe to say, we are likely going to see an appeal effort by the Trump administration in similar fashions to what we saw in some of the lawsuits playing out on the West Coast.

1:11:58But obviously, very significant marker put down by Judge April Perry here in the district court. And again, we will now have to wait to see what comes from a written decision. But she made things pretty clear in her oral ruling, which, again, she described as a high-level summary. Very detailed, though, for a high-level summary, Jake. All right. Omar Jimenez near an ICE detention facility right outside Chicago. Staking with our politics lead, Democrats continue to stand behind their leaders, Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries. But Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson is taking heat from even some House Republicans for keeping the House in recess.

1:12:32Here now is Republican Congressman Kevin Kiley from California. Before we get to that, Congressman, I want to get to your reaction to this judge blocking the National Guard from being deployed in Chicago, Illinois and elsewhere in Illinois. Well, clearly the court decision needs to be respected. I expect there'll be an appeal and the issue will be litigated there. I mean, it's a novel legal issue. What I'd like to see is cooperation where the leaders in Chicago and Illinois welcome the help and we actually have cooperation in order to keep Americans safe. So it's unfortunate this has had to wind up in court in the first place.

1:13:06Do you think anything that President Trump is doing is based on the idea of cooperation? I mean, he could be trying to fund the hiring of additional police in Chicago, but instead he's saying that the governor and the mayor of Chicago should be arrested and he's sending in troops against, or trying to send in troops against their wishes. Yeah, well, I certainly support hiring additional police officers. I do think when you look at what happened in D.C., that's a pretty compelling case study of the difference you can make in fewer of your citizens getting murdered and assaulted and robbed. And so regardless of what the political leaders there think of the president's tone, I think that's a result they should want for their own citizens.

1:13:46So, you know, I'd like to see them saying, is there a way we can work together in order to keep people in Chicago and Illinois safe? I think that that's in everyone's interest. Yesterday, House Speaker Johnson suggested that he might keep the House in recess for a third straight week. You pushed back on social media. You said he shouldn't even think of doing that. We're also hearing from other Republicans, such as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, who's blaming Republican leaders for the shutdown. What are you hearing from your constituents about who they blame for the shutdown?

1:14:17I think that, you know, our constituents probably just think everyone's to blame in some sense. They've seen gridlock and, you know, a lack of bipartisanship, excessive partisanship in Washington for a long time. So, you know, these arguments being volleyed back and forth, probably hard for most people to really, you know, make heads or tails of. But what people do know is that the government is shut down and that's the government that they're paying for. And this is a massive institutional failure of Congress. Now, just to be clear, I voted for the bill to pass the House to keep the government open and to avoid a shutdown.

1:14:48I similarly voted for bills to keep the government open and avoid shutdowns during the Biden administration. This is sort of like the most basic job of Congress. But I do think it's very odd to cancel potentially three straight weeks of session now. I mean, we were supposed to be in session even without a government shutdown, working on all the things Congress is supposed to be doing, like passing the actual budget bills for this next year. And I think that it's especially important now that we have a shutdown so that we're there so that we can find whatever way we can to end it as soon as possible.

1:15:18One of the reasons why Democrats say Speaker Johnson is continuing to have the House in recess is because a new Democrat was elected and she will be the 218th signature on the discharge petition to release, to force a vote on a bill that would force the Epstein files to be released. Do you think that's true? I don't know what the motivation is, but the new member should be sworn in. I don't understand what the issue even here is. I mean, we were supposed to be in session last week and the week before. She was elected, from what I understand. She won the election. She's a new member of Congress, and so she should be allowed to take her seat and represent her constituents.

1:16:04It's all the more reason why Congress itself should be back. And even if we're not there, she can still be sworn in in a pro forma session. Congressman Kevin And Kylie, a Republican of California, thank you so much, sir. I appreciate your time. Sticking with our politics lead, let's cue that election music. Nice. Because it's just a matter of hours, the one and only debate for governor in Virginia is going to get underway. Virginia's local stations from Hampton Roads in Richmond are going to hold the event. On the left, former U.S. Congresswoman, or current U.S. Congresswoman, Abigail Spanberger.

1:16:39On the right, Lieutenant Governor Winsome Earl Sears. And there's one big shadow that's going to be hanging over the stage tonight, particularly over Spanberger's podium, and that's the controversy involving Democratic Attorney General candidate Jay Jones. Leaked text messages from 2022 show Jones wishing violence on his political adversaries, including their children. The scandal's breathing new life into the GOP's push in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Liam Alkind is a Democrat running for Congress in New York. Joe Borelli is a Republican commentator and former NYC Council GOP leader. Liam, what do you think?

1:17:15Do you think Spanberger has criticized Jay Jones' comments, but she hasn't called for him to drop out? Do you think she should? I had not, I'm going to be honest, heard about this guy until I saw those texts. I think they're disgusting. And even as a joke, we should be moving away from this violent political rhetoric that we're seeing. I got to be honest, though, Jake, I'm not going to take lessons on civility. from a party whose president has openly called for targeting his political opponents, who is literally prosecuting his political opponents after promising to do so for years, and has openly referred to his political opponents as vermin.

1:17:47So I'm sorry, but I'm not taking lessons on this from the Republican Party. Joe, what do you think? You know, just two weeks ago, we had an awful assassination on Charlie Kirk, a conservative leader. The president was shot in the head. The president faced the second assassination tape just weeks after that. And we saw, really, the United States coming together. And many politicians, including Democrats, prominent Democrats, said that this type of rhetoric, this type of violence has no place in our society. And how quickly that was pushed by the wayside when they have a candidate on the ballot in Virginia.

1:18:18Spanberger was leading in the polls for quite some time, and it was pretty consistent that she was in the lead. And they needed some outside catalyst to change that. I think the Jay Jones scandal is going to be that catalyst that's going to give Winsome Sears a little bump. So a Washington Post poll shows that she still, Spanberger, holds a double-digit lead over Republican Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears. What does she need to do, the Lieutenant Governor, to close that gap? Look, you know, polls... In the debate tonight. Right. Polls this time in four years ago had McAuliffe up, right? So she's on a path that she still can win.

1:18:50She has to continue linking some of the national news to the race in Virginia. She has to tie in the Democrats' shutdown to how it's hurting Democratic counties, Republican counties in the state of Virginia. And I think she really has to double down on some of her social policies, her social issues that she's really been focusing on. Those were the issues. It was parent choice. It was DEI education. It was critical race theory. Those are the things that actually got Glenn Youngkin elected in 2021. So there's also a governor's race in New Jersey. Republican, the Republican candidate is really, has really tightened the race.

1:19:26In fact, I think it's pretty much a toss up at this point. The Congresswoman, Democratic Congresswoman, Mikey Sherrill is the Democratic nominee. So here is an excerpt from the debate in New Jersey last night. It really got personal. He was paid to develop an app so that people who are addicted could more easily get access to opioids. And so as he made millions, as these opioid companies made billions, tens of thousands of New Jerseyans died. Mr. Chitorelli. First of all, shame on you. Second of all. Shame on you, sir. Shame on you. So a recent Fox News poll shows Mikey Sherrill, the Democrat, the woman on that stage, up eight points.

1:20:10But her tone's changing. She's being more aggressive, which does generally suggest that the race must be tightening. Yeah, I'm not a political pundit. I caught a couple minutes of the debate. I thought she cleaned his clock, and I thought he kind of shittarellied the bed. What did you think? Look, I'll start with an anecdote. I was in Princeton last weekend for my kid's soccer game, and I saw Jack Shittarelli signs. You'd never see Jack Shittarelli or any Republican signs in Princeton, New Jersey. And that's because there used to be 1.1 million more Democrats in New Jersey than Republicans. Thanks to President Trump, the leadership of the RNC, the leadership of the NJGOP, that has shrunk to 850 ,000.

1:20:45Cittarelli was well behind. Murphy was polling over 50 percent, this time four years ago. Mikey Sherrill hasn't had that. Signal poll out last week had the race narrowing to like five points. I think it was seven a month before that. So this race is coming together, and I can tell you as a part-time New Jersey resident soccer dad, you could see it in the streets. So let's turn to the breaking news about Letitia James being indicted by the Eastern District of Virginia. We should note that when she ran for attorney general, Letitia James, she put President Trump on notice. She said she would pursue every legal avenue to investigate him and to investigate his financial dealings.

1:21:23Let's roll some of that. We must do our job to ensure that the man currently occupying the Oval Office is held accountable to any and everything he has done to compromise our values and the trust and the safety of our state and our union. Liam, does that language at all undermine when Democrats complain about her being indicted? Look, I think this is a very clear instance, frankly, of promises made, promises kept. Donald Trump campaigned on targeting his political opponents. Now he's going to do a little dance and say he's not. It's clearly what he's doing. We all see it. There was a prosecutor who declined to bring charges, so he replaced them with a stooge.

1:22:03Look, this is what the president is going to do. And I got to say to anybody out there who is opposed to the 34-count convicted felon, I stand with you. I'm fighting for you. Lawyer up, because this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. What do you think? If we're playing who said it, right, who said this one? People who lie to banks to get favorable mortgage rates hurt the working class individuals. You know who said that? Tish James. As you pointed out, Tish James ran for office before seeing any evidence saying that we are going to get Donald Trump. And she pursued those charges.

1:22:31She found evidence. She couldn't find criminal charges. But she brought civil charges in a case not too dissimilar to this one. Is she guilty? I don't know. But I know that an eastern district of Virginia, Grand Jury, a place that's not known for Trump supporters, this is not a red part of the state of Virginia, they saw the evidence and they believed there was enough to indict her. That's where we stand now. She'll have her day in court. But this is not someone who was the fair arbiter of justice herself. Liam, Joe, thanks so much. Really appreciate your time. In our Law and Justice lead and a major update of a story we've been covering for more than a year, death row inmate Robert Roberson, who was convicted in a shaken baby death of his two-year-old daughter, he just had his execution stayed or stopped once again.

1:23:14Today, the Texas appeals court sent Roberson's case back to trial court for new hearings, citing last year's decision to overturn a different shaken baby conviction due to evolving scientific evidence when it comes to shaken baby syndrome, as it was called. CNN's Ed Lavender is tracking this latest update. Ed, tell us more about today's ruling. Well, Jake, it's another dramatic ruling as Robert Roberson was just a week away from being executed here in the state of Texas. And this court ruling essentially moves his case back into a lower court where prosecutors and defense attorneys will continue to fight over the medical evidence in this case.

1:23:57State prosecutors say that Robert Robertson violently shook and abused his two-year-old daughter, Nikki. His lawyers have been saying, and many Republicans support this view here in Texas, that Robertson and the doctors in that case misdiagnosed the symptoms that the young girl had. We spent an hour with Robert Robertson yesterday afternoon. It would have been his last interview before the execution date, and this is what he told us. What do you want the people to know if this is your last chance to convince them? That I'm actually innocent. That I didn't do it, you know. I'm actually innocent.

1:24:38I love my little girl, you know. What do you want your story to mean for others who might be in a similar situation as yours? My words of encouragement is to encourage them to keep fighting on. If they're innocent, keep fighting for what's righteous and just and fair, you know. So you talk about at times you find yourself, you have like this righteous anger. But I also sense that you still are keeping hope. Yeah, I believe I got much hope. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Is that hard to kind of hold on to as the days took down? No, sir, because I know the truth. God knows the truth and stuff, you know. No matter what happens, you know, I'm going home to the free world.

1:25:22I'm going home to be with the Lord, right?

1:25:27And Jake, it's hard to overstate just how much support Robert Robertson has garnered over the course of the last few years. In fact, the lead police detective who helped send Robertson to death row now believes he is innocent. Obviously, his voice played a huge part in the defense attorney's efforts to try to spare his life. In fact, Robertson was telling us yesterday that he was preparing what he might say for his last statement once he got into the execution chamber. But now his attorneys say that temporarily they have won the battle and their fight continues in a courtroom. So that will continue to play out here in the state of Texas.

1:26:05It's not like Robert Robertson is going to walk out of prison a free man anytime soon. But he did tell us if that day comes, one of the first things he wants to do is eat barbecue and take a drive around his East Texas hometown. All right, the latest in the Robert Robertson case, Ed Lavenderer in Dallas, Texas. Thank you so much. And thanks for staying on top of that story. You can follow me on Facebook, Instagram, threads, X Blue Sky, and on the TikTok at Jake Tapper. You can follow the show on X at The Lead CNN. If you ever miss an episode of The Lead, you can listen to the show once you get your podcasts.

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