Trump & NYC Mayor Mamdani Speak About Their Meeting

24:34We see the two men together. As you point out, they walked out initially before they went to the podium, and they were very chummy with each other. How do you think the mayor is sort of walking this fine line, particularly when it comes to the press ban? Yeah, look, I think the mayor answered well. I mean, look, he's a leader among Democrats, and I think Donald Trump views him as an outsider who was absolutely disruptive to the traditional Democratic establishment the same way Donald Trump was disruptive to the Republican establishment. Donald Trump transformed the Republican Party, whether you agree with it or not.

25:12And I would argue in many ways, Mayor Mondani has changed the Democratic Party. I mean, you look at the slew of DSA candidates who are winning across the country or who are winning nominations. You have a DSA candidate for mayor who won, who will soon come into power. But it's also that he's popular. I think the thing with Donald Trump is, like, game loves games. He likes winners. No, I agree with that. But I'm making a bigger point in that you have these two outsiders who've transformed American politics in terms of two major political parties. And I think there is something about that that the president absolutely respects.

25:50And look, the Republican establishment did not want Donald Trump. Remember that. The Democratic establishment, Hakeem Jeffries, is going to have to wrestle with this faction of DSA members once he assumes the position of Speaker of the House, which I believe he will. Can we just watch this? I think he looks at this, Pamela. He looks at Mayor Mamdani. And to your point, Lulu, he sees a winner. And one thing we know, the President loves a winner. And Mayor Mamdani, whether you agree with his politics or not, this guy is a winner. His approval ratings appear to be through the roof in New York. and who would have expected that several months ago?

26:25I know I certainly didn't. Alyssa, what's in it for Trump in your view to have this meeting with Mayor Mamdani? It's so fascinating and I echo Lulu, by the way. I think that the president also thinks that Mayor Mamdani looks like he's out of central casting. He looks the part, he's tall, he's commanding, he has a presence and that's something Trump cares about in politicians. But I think for him, he's forever a New Yorker and I think it's showing that he cares about the city, he's invested in it. I would say there's a lot more upside for the mayor than there is for the president. Mayor Mamdani is also extremely polarizing on the right.

26:59So I think appearing too warm, too cordial with him isn't really a win for the president, but I think it's a huge win for Mayor Mamdani. And I would just point out that some of the left flank and the DSA crowd that love him really, really excoriated Hakeem Jeffries for meeting with President Trump. So I would just point out that it is always helpful and it is always in the interest of constituents when leaders are able to talk to each other and to try to have collaborative, you know, ideas in the small areas that they can agree. Yeah, he was asked about that. And he said, look, we both care about New York and want to work together to do its best for New Yorkers.

27:33But how do you think his supporters will take this? Well, I mean, the thing that Mamdani always does very well is, first of all, look at his face. His face is always completely neutral. I've interviewed Mayor Mamdani. He actually has a very kind of expressive manner about him, but not there. He is completely stone-faced. The other thing that he is always very careful to do whenever he meets with President Trump is to say what he is meeting with him for, that this isn't just like a random meeting, that there is an ask, that he is doing it in the service of New Yorkers. And so he's hoping that that will inoculate him from actually being seen with the president.

28:09And as you know, there's probably no inoculation on the left against that. People are going to be angry. But Mayor Mamdani rides high. I mean, I don't know that there's anyone more popular than Obama on the left right now. If I could just add quickly to Lulu's point, the mayor is proving that he can govern. That's simply it. People want results. And so they may not like him standing next to the president, to Lulu's point. But as she said, he talks about very specific, tangible things to say, I'm meeting with the president to deliver X, Y, and Z for the residents of New York City. That is my job.

28:43I may not like the person I'm standing next to. I may not agree with them philosophically. But if that means I can get a win for my city, I'm going to get a win. And I think most New Yorkers, Lulu, correct me if I'm wrong, would applaud that. I think probably not. I mean, I don't want to speak for all New Yorkers, but I do think he's very good, Mayor Mamdani, at doing things and explaining why he's doing them. Yeah, he has always been seen as an effective messenger. All right. Thank you all. We appreciate it. And we're also following this stunning moment in Texas, a Venezuelan man shot by ice calling into a news conference from custody what he told his wife about his condition and the bullet that is still lodged in his back.

29:30Reaching your audience on Spotify with display ads is easy. Use your existing creative and launch your first campaign in minutes with Spotify Ads Manager. Breaking news and the National League. During a dramatic news conference this afternoon, we heard from the man who was shot by an ICE agent yesterday in Austin, Texas. The man, a door dash diver from Venezuela, was taken into federal custody, pending removal from the country. As CNN's Ed Levandera reports, he still has a bullet in his body.

30:09A dramatic phone call in the middle of a news conference with activists protesting the ICE officer shooting of a Venezuelan food delivery driver Sunday in Austin. Wilbur Garces Perez called from the South Texas detention facility where he's being held in immigration custody and took questions from journalists. I am not doing well due to the gunshot wound and I have not received the medical attention that I require. Whoa. Oh my God. This video has sparked a wave of anger across the city of Austin. The images capture an ICE officer shooting and wounding Garces Perez from Venezuela, who was working as a DoorDash driver.

30:49The video shows 28-year-old Garces Perez with a gunshot wound in his back. He was then handcuffed after being pulled out of his car. His lawyer says ICE took Garces Perez into custody from the hospital with the bullet still in his body just hours after the shooting. He's struggling. Kate Lincoln Goldfinch is an immigration attorney representing Garces Perez's family. When he was discharged from the hospital at four o 'clock yesterday, he had a bullet lodged in his back and they told him they wouldn't remove the bullet. They sent him to ICE with the bullet in his back without pain medication and he slept overnight in a processing center without a bed.

31:26She said she spoke with the Venezuelan immigrant by phone Monday morning. She says Garces Perez told her an unmarked black truck rammed his vehicle twice. A source familiar with the incident tells CNN ICE officers were conducting targeted immigration enforcement operations Sunday based on license plate checks. Agents had a brief exchange with Garces Perez who had a deportation order before he fled the scene in his car. The shooting took place shortly afterward. Video of the scene shows two apparent bullet holes in the rear passenger window of the Venezuelan man's car and damage to the passenger door.

32:00Garces Perez attorney says he remains in ICE custody and has been interrogated by the agency. An SUV rode next to him and tried to hit him. He thought it was like an aggressive driver. Turns out it was not. He asked the ICE officer if he could please at least pull over so that they could detain him. They said no, and they side-swiped him, basically. He did a U-turn to try and find a spot to park so that he could go with them, and they basically ran into him and then shot him.

32:37Protests erupted within hours of the Austin shooting. There's lots of people that are hurt. There is pain in their heart. There is pain whenever they leave their home knowing that but they won't come back. We will all be more safe when ICE gets the hell out of Austin Tech.

32:59And, Pamela, the Department of Homeland Security says that Wilbur García-Garces-Perez is in stable condition, but his family is still very much worried about his physical condition. He was asked during that press conference today why the bullet wasn't removed. He said that he asked the doctor if they were going to remove the bullet. But the doctor, he says the doctor told him that it was too close to his spine and that ICE agents were eager to get him out of the hospital as quickly as possible. And he believes that that's why that procedure was not done. His lawyers say that they are right now in the process of trying to ensure that he is not deported before the investigation into this shooting is complete.

33:34Pamela. Ed Levandera, thank you so much. And joining us now is Texas Democratic Congressman Greg Kesar, whose district includes Austin. You saw him there in Ed's piece. Thanks for coming on, Congressman. So you have bystander videos in the wake of the shooting seeming to indicate ICE agents did little to treat the man after he was shot. When Wilbur Garces Perez called him to the news conference, he said he still has a bullet in his back and he's in pain. What more do you know? And what are your biggest concerns right now? I think we're having some issue with audio. It worked before. Oh, sorry.

34:11Oh, OK, we can hear you now. All right, great. Great. There you go. Go ahead. What we've heard from Wilbur's family and then heard from Wilbur directly is that we have someone who was a door dash delivery driver just trying to do his job. He was slammed by an unmarked vehicle, shot by ICE agents in the back, denied basic medical care, and then taken to a detention center in the Texas desert. and now they want to deport him before he ever gets a chance to testify about what happened. I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican or Independent. We don't think in this country that the government should be allowed to shoot you and then try to cover it up.

34:56Mr. Garces Perez needs to go see a doctor. He should not be deported. He should be released. And ICE needs to get out of Austin so they can stop this kind of terror in our community. Do you know if the ICE agents involved were wearing body cameras? We do not know if the ICE agents were wearing body cameras, but I am demanding three basic things, transparency, accountability, and safety. For transparency, the dash cam footage should be released immediately. Any body cam footage from any of those multiple ICE agents should be immediately released. And local law enforcement is treating this as a criminal investigation, those witnesses, including the ICE officer that shot Wilbur, need to cooperate with the investigation.

35:43They should not be allowed to flee the state as fugitives. Second, there needs to be accountability. Any and all wrongdoing should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And when Democrats win back the House in November, we should subpoena not just the ICE officials at the bottom rungs, but up to the very top who have shot multiple U.S. citizens. ICE, who has lied constantly. They called Renee Good a terrorist. Turns out she was just a mom, U.S. citizen, who was killed. And in this case, a DoorDash driver who was shot in the back of the neck. And then third, we need safety. ICE says that they're trying to make people safe.

36:19But since their surge in Austin, they've arrested a five-year old just a couple of miles from where I'm sitting right now. They've raided construction sites. and now they've shot a DoorDash delivery driver in the back of the neck and denied him medical care. He's sitting in a detention center right now with that bullet still in him with no pain medication and he's bleeding. Congressman, I want you to respond to what the Department of Homeland Security is saying about this. This is a statement that it posted on X saying, quote, an illegal alien from Venezuela who illegally entered our country under the Biden administration and had a final order of removal during a law enforcement operation today in Austin, Texas.

37:01So just talking about how the officer was involved in this shooting. How do you respond to its description of this? When the first words out of DHS's mouth is not that we need to make sure he's in stable condition, that we should take care of this person that I shot, you need to be suspicious. and remember that ICE lied about Renee Good, lied about Alex Preddy, lied about Lorenzo Araujo, all people that were shot and killed. And in this case, what we heard directly from Wilbur and his attorneys is that he entered lawfully using the CBP1 app under the Biden administration. And what we also heard from his attorneys is that some mix-ups about his address had him miss a court date.

37:47I don't know about you, but whether you are immigrant, native born, I think that you shouldn't be shot in the back of the neck by someone in an unmarked vehicle and then suddenly be taken out of the hospital and taken to a prison just because there might've been a mix up about court dates. We need a full transparent investigation about what happened here. And the fact that DHS pulled Mr. Garces Perez out of the hospital four hours after he was shot. And now they're talking about trying to remove him probably tells people watching at home everything you need to know. They are trying to cover this up and we cannot let that happen.

38:24All right, Texas Democratic Congressman Greg Kesar, thank you. We'll continue to monitor this story and see what happens next. Thanks so much. And still appreciate you for covering this, Pam. Of course. What sources tell CNN about faulty data from artificial intelligence that they say almost started a war. I'll speak with a top Democrat now calling for an investigation.

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39:56And now to our series, AI, friend or foe? New fallout from the bombshell exclusive CNN report that the U.S. military had planes in the air and was ready to take action against China based off of a false AI-generated report. Sources tell CNN the bogus AI report, quote, almost started a war. In a letter to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Director of National Intelligence Jay Clayton, three top Democratic senators are calling on government watchdogs to probe the incident and accuse the administration of prioritizing AI adoption over competence. Joining us now is Senator Jack Reed, the top Democrat on the Armed Services Committee and one of the co-authors of the letter.

40:39Sander, have you learned anything more about how close the U.S. was to launching an attack against this Chinese ship? No, we have not been told anything in addition. In fact, the Department of Defense has basically stonewalled the Congress repeatedly over many, many months. We're still waiting for detailed information and conclusions about the strike in Iran on the school in Manab, Iran. They refuse to do that. This is an administration that will not divulge information or accept responsibility. And with AI, we have to have a sense of what are the problems and what are possible ways to minimize collateral damage and damage to civilians.

41:29That's why we've called Senator Warner, Senator Coons and I for a investigation by the inspector general, not interfered with by the administration into all the details. Make that available to Congress quickly. And then we can start drawing conclusions about legislative provisions that we should include to protect everyone with the use of AI. So I know you say you're getting very little information from the Pentagon right now, but what is your assessment of how much the Pentagon and the administration's national security team is relying on AI for critical decision making right now? Well, I think they're relying a great deal on AI.

42:10It is a powerful tool, but I don't think they've taken the sensible precautions to insulate AI use from actual targeting or at least to control the AI use. And as a result, you've had incidents like they strike on the school in Iran and potentially the strike on the ship that they thought was bearing nuclear materials. So we have to do and they have to do a much better job of identifying those areas in which there has to be a human in the kill chain, if you will. And also, how do we go ahead and develop and deploy this powerful tool in a way that ensures that we do not cause unanticipated incidents like the sinking a Chinese ship, for example?

43:06Your GOP colleague, Senator Tom Telles, is calling for President Trump to replace Secretary Hegseth. Do you get the sense that there is a growing sentiment or frustration with Hegseth from Republicans? I do, and it's properly directed. I opposed the Secretary's confirmation from the very beginning. I indicated I felt he did not have both the experience and temperament to effectively lead the Department of Defense, and he's demonstrated. So I think the Republicans are beginning to get the same impression. Indeed, I think they had that impression, but they felt they had to be supportive of the president's choice, which was a mistake.

43:53Senator Jack Reed, thank you for your time. And the money lead, the gas price is largely holding today, but it's been a turbulent week. The national average is$4.48. That's up 16 cents in the last seven days. And the rising price of diesel is even more drastic. Its national average is at a record$6.51. That is a 23 % spike in the last week. And here's why you should care about that. Diesel is what fuels tractor trailers and freight trains and construction vehicles. And large farming combines that harvest, your food. If they pay more, that means you'll eventually pay more. My next guest is seeing firsthand how these prices are affecting America's farmers.

44:34Democratic Congresswoman Kristen McDonald-Rivet of Michigan joins us now. She is on the Agriculture Committee. Congresswoman, thanks for coming on. So today, gas prices in Michigan are more than 40 cents higher than the national average. What are you hearing right now from farmers in your state about how they're shouldering these costs? You know, our ag economy here in Michigan is in a free fall. Farmers will tell you that. I saw a couple of stations in the northern part of my district today where diesel was $7.30 a gallon. So this is not just combines, but it's tractors. It's everything that makes a farm run.

45:14It's frankly a lot of the pickups that most of the people here in my district drive, and it is breaking their backs. You know, when we saw the unnecessary trade wars, the spiraling tariffs in the last year, my farmers in my district lost millions and millions of dollars. So going into this season, they really needed a good season in order to hold their farms. And thus really this unnecessary war that is jacking up the cost of diesel is could be the final straw for many of them. It's really most people who work with their hands drive a diesel truck. And if you really want to know how working people across America are doing, you look at the price of diesel.

46:02They're not doing well. And, of course, if the price of diesel is going up, everything is transporting for the most part, everything goes up, right? And diesel prices in particular have doubled since last year for farmers. My colleague, Frederica Whitfield, spoke with the founder of the National Black Farmers Association yesterday. and he said this. This is a national farm crisis. That cost is going to be passed on to the American people who are going to pay higher prices for products in their local grocery stores. But the problem is farmers don't have the extra money to cover this cost and the administration hasn't done anything to assist the farmers.

46:44Do you believe your fellow Democrats are doing enough to sound the alarm? You know, we're doing everything that we can. I think that you saw Democrats on committee raising this issue over and over and over again about how hard it is for farming. And we get this continual kind of pushback that, you know, the farm economy is fine. We'll talk to a farmer, talk to a sugar beet farmer or a bean farmer in the middle of Michigan, and they'll tell you things are not fine. You know, in my district, 70 % of our jobs pay less than$60 ,000 a year. So when you think about what take-home pay looks like on$60 ,000 a year and all of these escalating prices, you know, I am on a daily basis talking to people, families who use the word drowning.

47:32They're economically drowning because they can't afford to fill things in their grocery baskets. They are very worried about the cost of their utilities. Many of them are losing their health insurance. There is this incredible frustration about the lack of attention that's being paid to it, the bailout for farmers, dollars that were going to help them, whether these crises that have been caused by the administration have been very minimal, not even close to coming to be able to rescue some of the farms that are living on a razor's edge. I want to ask you then, given everything you just laid out about how Democrats are doing ahead of the midterms, right?

48:13There was an NBC News poll and it showed the Democrats hold a five point edge and the battle for control of Congress. That is not nearly as large as the 12 point advantage they enjoyed at this point before the 2018 election. Does it concern you at all the Democrats aren't pulling ahead even more in the polls at this point? What do you think? How do you see it? You know, we're 43 days out from the election and there is a lot of the fight left to be had. But the piece that I think is being ignored is that most people, and I can see them in my district, but I think you see this all over the country, are just flat out frustrated with government in general.

48:53So the president's approval ratings have been underwater for a very long time. There is these giant pendulums that happen in politics as people search for somebody they trust, someone who's practical, someone who cares about solving the day-to-day problems that so many people have. And listen, I'm Midwest practical. And what I know is that if we want people to trust our agenda, it has to make it easier to get health insurance. It has to make it easier to buy groceries to be able to have kids. But most of all, we have to do something about the corruption in Washington, because I think that the trust in government has been fundamentally broken.

49:36And we need to the first thing that we need to do in the majority is pass a sweeping anti-corruption package and start to restore that faith that people have that elected officials, whether you're Democrat or Republican, care about how hard their lives are. Democratic Congresswoman Kristen McDonald Rivett of Michigan, thank you so much. Well, moments ago, President Trump, with New York City Mayor Zoram Amdani, his brand new comments on the press and banning CNN and other press outlets from the White House.

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50:44Welcome to The Lead. I'm Pamela Brown in for Jake Tapper. And this hour, President Trump is in New York, ahead of a major global conference, but he's without much of the press coverage he usually gets. Media companies standing by CNN, MSNOW and Politico as the three outlets sued the White House over Trump's media ban. Where that lawsuit stands tonight as both sides prepare for a court battle in the coming days. Plus, top Democrats across the country are privately warning they don't have enough money in the bank ahead of the November midterms. Right now, Republicans have nearly$200 million more worth of ads reserved than Democrats.

51:21So how big of an impact could this huge money disparity have? And President Trump is now providing a new justification for his proposed 25-story arch in Washington, D.C. He says the structure, which would be in the middle of a traffic circle, will now be used to also house drones and snipers. So how would this even work, and is it feasible?

51:46The lead tonight, CNN, MSNOW and Politico are suing President Trump after he banned them from the White House for, quote, negative coverage for the first hearing. And this case is now set for Wednesday. And in a lengthy post on True Social, President Trump wrote, The administration already intends to appeal, writing, quote,

52:16In the lawsuit filing, the outlets call the ban a direct assault on the First Amendment and a blatant violation of constitutional principles. Other major TV networks, ABC, CBS, Fox, and NBC, are standing with CNN after it was barred from its pool duties today, declining to replace CNN with a crew to cover the president's events in New York. So let's go live now to CNN's chief White House correspondent and anchor, Caitlin Collins. So Caitlin, you're learning more about what led up to Trump's announcement last week that surprised us. Well, Pam, he's been lashing out about the coverage. Obviously, that's not surprising.

52:55It is something that he has complained about for years, long before he was president. But he's been facing a string of setbacks lately when it comes to the Supreme Court, when it comes to the Federal Reserve raising interest rates, gas prices rising, the Iran war still underway. It's certainly a big topic here at the United Nations General Assembly this week. But it was the president being shown a graphic of negative coverage last week by Politico, we're told, by his close aide, Natalie Harp, someone who's often in the Oval Office, often with him on Air Force One, and is actually joining him and traveling with him on this trip to New York just now, according to the reporters who are still traveling with him.

53:30She showed him a graphic of negative coverage from Politico, and we are told that it so infuriated the president that he decided to loop these outlets together, lump these outlets together, and ban them, as he announced on Friday, from covering him, which he himself, despite the vice president saying earlier today, this is not a ban on the free press. The president himself called it that last week when he was in the Oval Office taking questions about how exactly he envisioned this working. Now, what we do know is this has kind of prompted a scramble in and of itself behind the scenes because this is for the first time in modern history that the president has not had a major TV network traveling with him when he goes somewhere.

54:09Often there is one representative, one team from CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC or Fox who is always with the president no matter where he goes, whether that's a war zone or down the street from the White House or here to New York. But today there is no TV camera traveling with President Trump as the networks are now acting in solidarity after the White House refused to admit CNN and let them carry out their assignment as the TV poll today. And Collins, thank you so much. And don't miss Caitlin's show, The Source with Caitlin Collins. Her guests tonight included Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear at 9 Eastern on CNN.

54:47Don't miss it. All right, I want to bring in Connor Fitzpatrick, chief supervising attorney from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, and Frank Sesno, former CNN White House correspondent and Washington Bureau chief. Connor, to start with you, based on the legal filing from CNN and Messinau Politico, how do you expect this case will unfold?

55:09I think the best way to predict this is by looking at President Trump's social media post, where he is already promising to appeal a ruling he has not lost yet. The law on this point is very clear, and it's been clear for 50 years. The White House cannot throw members of the press out of the White House grounds because it doesn't like what they have to say. That's been the law under Republican presidents, Democratic presidents, and it's still the law today. Frank, we just heard from the president last hour talking about this alongside Mayor Zoram Amdani of New York. Take a listen.

55:46All right, we don't have that. But he basically just went on to rail against the press and continue what he has said many times, that he believes that it's fake news, so forth and so on. Do you think he was expecting more press coverage of his events today? Oh, he expects press coverage wherever he goes, and he gets it for the most part. I don't think he was expecting this kind of solidarity from news organizations, and that's a very important thing, both that the news organizations did this and that the president and others around him see that he's going to get less coverage. Sometimes he doesn't act like he cares at all because he's got his own truth social channel and other ways that he can get to people in real time.

56:30But this is a president, a person who, in my opinion, has never met a camera or a microphone he doesn't like after all. And he wants that attention. He wants that coverage. And it's extraordinary thing that in the solidarity of ABC, CBS, Fox News, NBC, that it's the Fox News bureau chief and TV pool chair who today wrote to the White House press pool and said that they would not be covering events designated for pool coverage. So this is not a minor thing. And he has created this dust up. How much he cares is really kind of depends on the moment, it seems. But it's actually a very big deal. Yeah.

57:12And it was interesting. CNN was supposed to be pooled today. That means we were supposed to travel with him, cover him. Obviously, that did not happen. And we held the press conference outside of Gracie Mansion, but it was the local New York outlet that we were getting the feed from, not CNN, as it was supposed to be. I wonder, Connor, what your view is of Trump's true social post from earlier this afternoon, where he referenced the judge in the case, Judge Timothy Kelly, who Trump appointed. It's the same judge who heard the case to restore CNN's Jim Acosta's credential during the first administration.

57:47So I just wonder what you think about that. And how do you think that will play into the case?

57:55It might be the same judge, but it's the same law. The same law was binding back during the Jim Acosta case that this judge previously handled, and it's the same law that's in play today. You know, as a First Amendment litigator, sometimes we spend years of litigation and discovery and even a jury trial trying to prove that a government actor was acting against somebody because he or she didn't like their viewpoint. But here, Donald Trump is on social media not only saying the quiet part out loud, but putting the quiet part in all caps. So when it comes to the law here, it's not close. This is a violation of the First Amendment.

58:33Frank, earlier today, Vice President Vance made a comment about this ban that seemingly contradicts what the president had said. Take a listen. He's not banning media outlets. What he's doing is saying, we're not going to give you special access to the White House if you engage in what is effectively propaganda. If you're going to engage in what is effectively far-left propaganda, why would a Republican White House give you special access? Sir, you've talked a lot about free speech over the years. How is this not an attack on free speech? Well, they can still report on the Trump White House. They can still get the public reports.

59:05They can still, of course, talk to people in the administration and outside the administration. What the president has said is we're not going to give you special access inside the White House. You know, the president said he was banning these press outlets. What do you make of that? Well, what I'm, it's very sad. Okay, it's very sad. You know, the president announced on Friday, for all intents and purposes, felt and sounded like a whim. Now you've got J.D. Vance actually trying to defend it based on some kind of argument or logic. It just doesn't work. The president said, I don't want these people, when he made this announcement on Friday, in my office.

59:38That's not his office. In fact, he made a reference to the People's House, that building the White House is maintained with taxpayer dollars from all parties and all stripes, just as it is covered by news organizations from all stripes. And it is wrong legally and wrong editorially, journalistically and wrong morally to say that these organizations are going in there and doing propaganda. Would they have said the same thing? Would J.D. Vance have said the same thing if Joe Biden had kicked Fox out, which was constantly harping on his administration during those years? And this is the problem. This is what the former White House press secretary, Ari Fleischer, said the other day when he said, well, this is dangerous stuff because if now it's Republicans kicking out what they see as liberal media, tomorrow it can be Democrats kicking out conservative media.

1:00:24So it needs to be seen as the open place it is. The White House should be is the beacon for coverage, accountability. And that's why this thing is so outrageous. And just for context, historically, we have seen presidents clash with the press, right? In 2009. Yeah, repeatedly. And you did have the Obama administration trying to exclude Fox News from a round of interviews with the Treasury official before backing down. The Biden administration tightened the credentialing process, which led to fewer journalists having White House badges. But, Conor, explain how this is different.

1:01:01This is very different in the modern era. So we know that presidents have had antipathy towards the press going back a very long time. John Adams used the Sedition Act to try to and was effective in throwing some of his critics actually in jail. But the backlash to the Sedition Act from regular Americans led to John Adams's defeat in the 1800 election and the extinction of the Federalist Party. So over the last 250 years, the people of this country have proudly defended the right to free speech and a free press, regardless of whether we like what that particular newspaper or television channel has to say.

1:01:38And those principles have to hold true here, because what's different today is that he's not only trying to ban reporters from particular areas or decide that he only wants to do interviews with particular outlets. He is trying to kick certain outlets outright out of the White House grounds. And that is unprecedented and that is unconstitutional. Right. And especially with the distinction that these are outlets that were already given a press badge to be at the White House. And now it is being revoked because he said for himself he doesn't like the coverage. Connor Fitzpatrick and Frank Sesno, thank you so much.

1:02:15We'll see how this plays out in court. Well, protests are erupting after ICE agents shot a man in Austin, Texas. His lawyer tonight saying the man came to the country legally, but the Trump administration disagrees and is trying to deport him. We're going to explain how all of this unfolded up next.

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1:03:30Social media videos not only captured the moment the shots were fired, they also show the man in handcuffs with federal agents standing around him, even though he clearly has a bullet wound in his back. He was taken to a hospital, but a few hours later moved to a detention center 100 miles away with the bullet still inside of him. and he says it was because it was close to his spine. He's identified as a 28-year-old Wilbur Garces Perez, who federal authorities say was in the country illegally. And we called him to a news conference this afternoon where his attorney and others translated for him.

1:04:04He's saying that he's in a lot of pain, that they did not take out the bullet because it was close to his spine. He was complaining that he was in a lot of pain, and he's like, are you going to take out the bullet wound? and the doctor said, hey, they're in a hurry to get you out of here. When he arrived at the detention center at 4 a.m., he also complained about the pain and he had to sleep on the floor. With us now is Austin City Council Member Vanessa Fuentes. Thank you for coming on. What are you learning about what happened here? Yeah, I mean, absolutely horrified to learn that Wilbur still has a bullet lodged in his body.

1:04:45You know, to us, this is just another example of how ICE continues to operate in a violent and reckless regard for public safety. It is alarming to see that he was not given proper medical care either at the scene or in the hospital and was within hours taken to a detention facility. And so yet again, this is another violent example coming out of ICE, an agency that is operating without accountability and without oversight. Are you getting any more details about what exactly led ICE agents to shoot him? That is what the questions that we still have and we're trying to seek answers for. And it's important that we have a local investigation so that we are able to gather the evidence and interview bystanders.

1:05:29You can see from the video accounts that have been shared online what happened. But we want to ensure that there's a thorough investigation and we want to also happen locally. We cannot rely upon ICE to give us all the information that we need. They do not have a good history in that regard. So it's important that we have a local investigation. Are you concerned that ICE, that he will be deported and you won't have a key witness as part of the local investigation? Absolutely. I mean, the way, how quickly they moved, the fact that he didn't receive proper medical care and within hours was transported to a detention facility away from his family.

1:06:07And again, without due process here, I mean, this is a violation of our constitutional rights, is absolutely concerning that he will be deported. And so we really want to ensure that he is provided the right to be with his family as this investigation plays out. A Department of Homeland Security statement on X describes Garces Perez as, quote, an illegal alien from Venezuela who illegally entered our country under the Biden administration and had a final order of removal. How do you respond? Well, regardless of anyone's immigration status, no one should be shot in the back. I think we can all agree upon that.

1:06:47And based on the information that Wilbur's attorney is providing to the media and to our community, he is here legally. But it shouldn't matter. You know, there is a proper way to do public safety. And ICE is not making our communities any safer. And the shooting sparked a demonstration last night. What else are you hearing from members of Austin's Latino community? I mean, certainly there is a level of fear knowing that ICE is operating within our city and just knowing their track record for a violation on human rights and their ability to detain individuals. I mean, they are they are detaining people that have no criminal record.

1:07:26So there is a lot of fear in our Latino community. And so having this happen, a tragic shooting like this happened in Austin is one that sadly, you know, we knew that at some point it would happen, but one that it was important for us to prepare for. Earlier this year in March, I joined my colleagues in a five-point action plan on how to protect our community, as well as how to respond when horrific shootings like this occur to ensure that there's accountability. And so right now, our community wants answers, and we want to ensure that there's accountability as well. All right, Austin City Councilmember Vanessa Fuentes, thank you.

1:08:02Well, the agreement announced today clears the way for a Hollywood mega merger. What we're learning about the deal to allow Paramount to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery, the parent company of CNN.

1:08:28goes to war with Cuban powerhouse Yoel Soldier of God Romero. Plus, the bare-knuckle middleweight championship of the world is on the line when the reigning champ Dave the Redneck Mundell defends against undefeated British challenger Jack the Meat Cleaver Colon. BKFC 94, Till vs. Romero. Watch it live only on DAZN. Sign up now at DAZN.com. A major development today in the money lead, the state's attorneys general suing to block Paramount's merger with Warner Brothers Discovery. CNN's parent company announcing they breached a settlement, clearing the way for the two entertainment powerhouses to combine.

1:09:04California Attorney General Rob Bonta led the lawsuit and he spoke this afternoon. This settlement is not a vote of support for this merger. It is not a blessing of the broader merger. But as I've said before and I'll say again, I'm always willing to come to the table for honest, good faith negotiations. CNN chief media analyst Brian Stelter is here. So what are the terms of the deal, Brian? Yeah, Pam, the concessions are relatively modest. Bonta did not secure many of the structural remedies that he said he wanted. Instead, he is touting what are known as behavioral remedies with legal language describing how Paramount will behave in the next five years.

1:09:49The settlement terms require a combined Paramount Warner to release 30 films theatrically per year, something that CEO David Ellison has said he wants to do anyway, that number will rise to 32 after two years. The deal also requires Paramount to maintain its theatrical release windows, to keep Paramount's Hollywood and Warner's Burbank studios open and not move out of California, to invest an additional$1.5 billion in domestic film production, and importantly, on the news side of the business, to establish a, quote, editorial independence board for CNN and CBS News. Now there's a lot of details still to be figured out about that editorial board, but Paramount will choose five journalists to sit on it and they'll have the ability to resolve disputes and set standards.

1:10:31How that will work and whether it'll be effective very much remains to be seen. But some of the state attorneys general were pushing to have this board because they want to ensure that CNN's newsroom has editorial independence from the parent company. As one of the people involved in the negotiation said to me, Pam, quote, this board's going to exist. So let's try to make sure it actually has teeth. So what does this mean for the timeline of this merger? This is the final hurdle that Paramount had to clear. Paramount wanted, of course, this merger to close, to take effect a couple of months ago.

1:11:03So now there's going to be about a week or so of final preparations. I expect this deal to take effect either September 30th, October 1st, that kind of timeline, because it's the end of the third quarter, the start of the fourth quarter. It's a convenient time for the accountants in the room. and Paramount will be able to make more comments and explain in more detail how it intends to run the combined companies. Wall Street is expecting major layoffs and other cost-cutting moves in order to help pay down the debt associated with this deal. Also notably, three Middle Eastern royal families and sovereign wealth funds are financing a big chunk of this deal, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia.

1:11:39That's causing many Democratic lawmakers and other media watchdog groups to denounce today's settlement. But the bottom line, Pam, is that Paramount is moving forward. It will be able to take control of CNN, HBO, Warner, and all the rest in the next two weeks or so. And the final details are now being worked out. All right, Brian Stelter bringing us the latest. Thanks so much. President Trump now says his proposed 250-foot arch will contain military drones and be used by snipers. So when did these plans change and how would this even work? That's next.

1:12:22A striking and controversial new proposal from President Trump is raising fresh alarms in Washington, not just because of its size, but because of what he now says it will be used for. Trump says his proposed 250-story arch near Arlington, Virginia could double as a military site and be equipped with drones, ammunition, and rooftop snipers. That intensifies concerns about militarizing one of America's most symbolic spaces. CNN's Tom Foreman has more. Amid raging controversy over the president's proposed arch and relentless claims from the White House that construction will proceed as planned, a surprise change.

1:13:04At the strong request of the United States military, Trump wrote on social media, I have agreed to convert the project to a top-grade military complex, Triumphal Arch, to house, store, and have the rapid ability to use large numbers of drones plus snipers. The about-face comes amid fierce outcry from preservationists and veterans groups who clearly saw Trump as an arch villain and claimed his original plan would detract from nearby Arlington Cemetery. Some of them now say the new plan should start the approval process all over again. We've been going through this process now for about six months where it's been reviewed by the Commission of Fine Arts.

1:13:47It's been reviewed before the National Capital Planning Commission. And now this is an entirely different complex. It's not lost on those critics that Trump has made this maneuver before. When he tore down the historic east wing of the White House, he stated his goal clearly. We're replacing it with one of the most beautiful ballrooms that we've ever seen. But after being demolished himself in the press, polls, and courts, he repainted that pet project too as being as much about defense as dancing. This will be the greatest military complex slash ballroom anywhere in the world. There won't be anything like it.

1:14:24This is more than just a battle of architecture and landscaping. Safety advocates who had already raised alarms over such a massive monument crowding flights into Reagan Airport now must grapple with the idea of drones and gunmen in the mix, even as the president keeps going as he has all along, full throttle. What I do best in life is build. I build buildings really well. The president's move raises another question, too. Only a couple of miles from the Pentagon, with a river nearby where security patrols go all the time, with military flights going over all the time in one of the most highly protected cities in the world.

1:15:04Does it even make sense to talk about putting security measures on top of an arch in the middle of a traffic circle swarming with tourists, Pam? Fair question. Fair question. There are a lot of fair questions on this one. Yeah, note that it was 250 feet high. Sure. Not stories. All right, Tom Foreman, thank you so much as always. CNN chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst John Miller joins us now. So what do you make of this new explanation from the president about what the arch would be used for, John? Angela A. Brown, this raises a boatload of questions. So let's take it at face value.

1:15:45It is this arch of triumph, but it is also a military location where there'll be snipers on the high ground where they have got a 360 degree view. But the president also said snipers on the plaza level. The question is under posse comitatus, this is the legal rule that bars the military from engaging in law enforcement action against Americans on U.S. soil. Who are these snipers shooting at? The ones on the top? The ones on the ground? And what are these drones being launched at? Are they armed drones or are they just for observation? These are questions we haven't really heard the answer to. And Washington, D.C.

1:16:30has the Washington, D.C. Metro Police SWAT team. The Secret Service has a highly competent SWAT team with a big sniper component just around the corner at the White House. The FBI has a SWAT team, as do most other federal agencies in Washington. So there's a question being begged here. What is the need for this Trojan horse? And it's not much of a Trojan horse in that the cat's out of the bag. Anybody who would target Washington, who was a foreign adversary, would know what it was, what was in it, and where to hit. And you pointed out all the law enforcement assets in the area. Trump also didn't mention in his post, you have the Army's Fort Myers about a mile away from the proposed arch site, and the Pentagon is about two miles away.

1:17:18They seemingly would have a lot of military and security capability if needed. Well, they would. And they also, as military facilities, would have the standoff that, as Tom Foreman pointed out, you wouldn't get in the middle of a traffic circle in a tourist location where this military facility would be, basically just sitting out there. But I think we're missing the real dodge here, which is one of the struggles. And Tom pointed this out in his piece. He hinted at this with building the ballroom was it was challenged in court and again and again and again. And when it got to the Supreme Court, where they prevailed was the president's power for national security needs and the fact that there was a military installation under the ballroom.

1:18:07And the ballroom was a cover for that and it was needed for national security. Right now, nobody's ever really told us how the arch was being paid for. First, it was going to be money left over from the ballroom. Then it might be money from the national endowment. Then now it's a military project, which means it can be defeating challenges in court by saying it's for national security. And it could be paid for out of the Pentagon budget. And that's probably closer to what's really going on. So you see this just as a way to justify it as he has his other projects? To beat legal challenges and to develop a funding stream.

1:18:49And just like when you look at what Trump says he wants, he mentioned drones as one of the things that the arch would supposedly hold. And this comes at a time when threats from drones are on the rise and local law enforcement are on high alert and struggling on how to combat that. I mean, if this actually happened, how do you see it playing out? Well, just this weekend, the Police Executive Research Forum, or PERF, the leading think tank for law enforcement, issued a scathing report saying, based on the fact that 700 drones were seized by law enforcement during the FIFA games, hundreds more during the Super Bowl.

1:19:32The UFC fight on the White House lawn was targeted by terrorists who wanted to fly explosive drones on and cause a stampede, where then snipers would shoot at people, gunmen at the gates. They're saying it's not a question of if, it's a question of when. They see how drones are being used in Iran, how drones are being used in Russia and Ukraine, and that domestic terrorists are onto this. So law enforcement has been barred for years from being able to monitor, to take down, or to interfere with drones because the FAA and the FCC have said they can't do it. There's a new law that says the FBI can train them, authorize them, and certify them.

1:20:12And what PERF is urging is for law enforcement agencies, big and small, to go get the training and be ready. All right, John Miller, thanks so much. Really important to get your analysis on this. Meantime, Democrats are sounding the alarm about a major cash disadvantage ahead of the midterms. How much of an advantage could this give Republicans? Our political panel weighs in next.

1:20:47And our politics lead. They're on opposite sides of the political spectrum. But today, as you see right here, President Trump and New York City Mayor Zoram Amdani came together for a meeting at the mayor's mansion. Top of the agenda was the housing crisis in the city. And as for those critics who don't condone the mayor hosting the president, here's what Amdani has to say. I have said time and again that I will work with anyone, no matter what party they belong to, no matter how much we may disagree on other topics. whoever has the power and the will to lift that weight off New Yorkers' backs.

1:21:23At a time where hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers are asking the questions of how they can afford this city, I appreciate the conversation the president and I have had on the subject of how we can make it easier to afford life in this great city that we call our home. All right. My panel joins us now to talk more about this. So really interesting seeing the dynamic between these two men. I mean, they couldn't be more opposite with their politics, right? You have a self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist and Republican President Donald Trump meeting multiple times in one year. Chuck, what do you make of that?

1:22:00Look, I'm all about Democrats and Republicans getting along. Even my arch nemesis here, Ashley Davis, we get along from time to time. I can tell you they're not, and they're very friendly in the commercial market. Look, let me tell you, when you think about politics, blue or red don't matter when you're trying to get elected to help people. And I think Mondani is doing the right thing here. And nobody disagrees more with Donald Trump than me, but I like to see this happen because what Mondani said is actually true. Folks in New York and in Texas and in California feel like there's a weight on them, and folks are trying to get out of$6 diesel, hamburger prices.

1:22:33They're trying to figure out where ends meet. They might have met right there at the mayor's mansion. What's in it for Trump to have this meeting? I think he cares about New York, and I think he has from the beginning. I mean, the first time they met, everyone thought that they were going to have this big blow up. And they didn't because they care about the city. And I was surprised when the president decided to go there. It may be for security reasons that he actually went to the mansion. But, I mean, that shows him being very humble to go to his place, being the mayor's place. It's interesting, I had Lulu Garcia Navarro on earlier who noted that he was being a bit deferential to Mom Donnie.

1:23:15It's interesting to see. How much do you think, I mean, I know you said he cares about New York, but also it seems like he genuinely likes Mom Donnie. Well, I think he respects, I don't think he loves his ideas. No, he doesn't love, I mean, necessarily his politics, but I think he likes that he's a winner. He respects that it was a winner and it was a populist message and how he did it with social media. I mean, that was one of the things that he concentrated on the most when he ran, is that he had a groundswell of people that voted for him with barely any money. And that's exactly, I mean, especially the first time in 2016 when the president won, he had barely any money and won it because of the groundswell.

1:23:52So I wanted to just zoom out a little bit more beyond this and talk about the midterms and what's going on ahead of it. two dozen Democratic sources tell CNN that the party is increasingly worried that it doesn't have the cash to compete over the next six weeks. The head of Democrats' largest super PAC said, unless more resources come in in support for House Democrats, we will ultimately leave seats on the table. Chuck, how do Democrats find themselves this far behind? In full disclosure, I work for that super PAC. I'm working in over 30 of those races, And I can't. Everybody. Thank you very much.

1:24:27When you're good, you get hired. Try it. Let me say that. But I'll also say humble. So humble. Let me also say that we are getting outspent. The question on the table is this, is that right now, Republicans know that they're underwater, but they're fixing to spend a bunch of money. Elon Musk, the president, the Republican leadership packs and their party committees may spend 300 million dollars, maybe 400 million. The question is, is it too late? We don't know that yet, and I don't even know that, and I'm running these races. But what I do know is that unless things change, we're going to be largely outspent.

1:24:59But what we don't know is all that late money is going to matter. Go ahead. Two things. I think it's a little bit of chicken little. Come on now. Oh, it's totally chicken little. They want to raise more money. And obviously they're saying, listen, we have this really great chance to have a wave, and so give more money. And number two, we have a billion dollars to spend. We have consultants starving on our side that need to be paid. We have not$300 million. We have a billion dollars to spend. We need to. But I don't know if it's going to matter at the end of the day. If you have the anger on the Democrat side that's going to go out and vote, you're still going to go out and vote.

1:25:32Let me make one more point. Is that the candidates who have money like Tallarico, his dollar goes further than a super PAC. And let me explain. The Supreme Court had a ruling just a few months ago that said that candidates pay the lowest market rate when a super PAC comes in. They have to pay the highest TV rate. So when you see all this late money coming in, it doesn't spend the same as the campaign dollar. So it's a little apples and oranges. So how are Republicans looking to seize this advantage here on the money front? Well, I don't think that money is going to be an issue. I mean, there was all this talk on PACs are not going to have enough money.

1:26:03There's going to be enough money. I think that we should spend our money on get out the vote because that's the only way that we can overcome some of our headwinds that we're facing right now. But at the end of the day, we're not going to need money. And I don't believe that the Democrat major donors won't come to the table if they really feel that there's going to be races they need to invest in. All right. I want to talk about this op-ed today that Congressman Lawler actually texted to me for a reason. This is from Congressman Jared Golden pitting this op-ed that you rarely see in Washington.

1:26:37This Democrat is calling on New York to reelect Republican Congressman Mike Lawler. The two lawmakers collaborated across the aisle on multiple occasions. Golden praised Lawler's willingness to work with the other party and wrote, in part, he would rather pass a bill with the other party than score a point against it. So, Chuck, with this battle for Congress, as tight as it is, what does it say to you that a Democrat is calling on a district to re-elect a Republican running? Folks at home need to know that this is one of the few districts that's 50-50. It's a Republican district that Kamala Harris won.

1:27:10You should also know, looking at the latest Calciades, because there's not very good polling there, is Lawler only has a 40 percent chance of winning. That means he has an uphill battle. I can't still ask myself why this happened, but I can tell everybody at home this congressman who did this ain't coming back to Congress. He's given up his seat. It's an open seat. But his seat was just like the Lawler seat. He won a seat that a Republican had won, which was Donald Trump. I think this is all about whatever he does after the elections are over and finding some nonpartisan think tank thing to be on both sides of the aisle because I found it very ironic.

1:27:42Well, he doesn't have any ties anymore that makes him vote. I mean, he's done a lot of controversial things over the last couple of months with voting or the main guy. No, with Jared Golden. Yeah, he's been voting with Republicans on a couple of rules to move things forward. But this is where the election is going right now, where it's hand to hand combat in these districts. I don't know if Golden writing an op-ed or endorsing Lawler is going to matter in his district at all. But I do think that Lawler does represent his constituents very well. I mean, he obviously sides with the president, but he also makes some very big stances when he needs to.

1:28:22All right. Thank you both. Great to have you on. Thank you. A police officer was shot outside of a synagogue ahead of the holiest days of the year for Jews. The latest on that investigation up next.

1:28:40In our world lead, a police officer is recovering after being shot near a synagogue in Ontario, Canada last night while people gathered for Yom Kippur, the holiest day on the Jewish calendar. When asked if this was a terrorist attack, one official said, quote, common sense would say that probably was the case. And Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said the attack was an example of why the government was working hard to bring in new laws combating hate. Authorities have identified the suspect as 29-year-old Sean Ward. He is seriously injured in the hospital. The synagogue is now riddled with bullet holes.

1:29:14You see right here, the synagogue's president credits the injured police, Constable Jeff Smith, with saving the lives of everyone inside. And in our world lead, a disaster, unprecedented, a heavy blow, those words used by Germany's own chancellor after his party was embarrassed in another regional election yesterday. Here's CNN's Fred Pleiken. It's become almost a sad routine these days for German Chancellor Friedrich Merz. His opponents cheering after beating Merz's party in a state election. In this case, the right-wing alternative for Germany, whose leader tells me flat out, Merz needs to resign.

1:29:54He is strongly damaged, she says. I believe the CDU cannot continue with Friedrich Merz with a weak chancellor. While Friedrich Merz is trying hard to dispel any notion that he might have to resign, there's no doubt that the German chancellor is on the ropes and currently fighting for his very political survival. Nobody has asked any questions about personal consequences or launched a debate about personnel, neither last night nor this morning, Mats said after meeting with his party's leadership. But Mats' conservative Christian Democratic Union has now lost three state elections in a row, the winners in each case parties on the political fringes.

1:30:37After getting beat by a landslide two weeks ago by the right-wing AFD in Saxony-Anhalt, this weekend in the northeastern state Mecklenburg-West Pomerania, the CDU didn't even get enough votes to make it into local parliament. The winners again, the far-right AFD, which calls for mass deportation of undocumented immigrants and an end to all military aid for Ukraine. Meanwhile, in the German capital Berlin, Merz's party lost to the far left, Die Linke, which wants to expropriate large real estate companies and faces allegations of anti-Semitism in its ranks, allegations the party's leadership strongly denies.

1:31:22We have been witnessing for several months growing radical and openly expressed anti-Semitism that is even welcomed with applause. Malz has vowed to fight on and continue what he calls his reform agenda. But Germany's economy remains sluggish, his popularity ratings are in free fall, and even he acknowledges he's become a liability for those in his party fighting for re-election. I know that national politics played a major role, both in the state election two weeks ago in Sachsen-Jahrenheit and in yesterday's election. as did my own role. And Matt's claims he still believes he can fix his government's issues and bring Germany back on track, but the chancellor might be running out of time.

1:32:11Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Berlin. Our thanks to Fred. I'll see you tomorrow morning at 10 in the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer. Aaron Burnett out front starts now. Thank you.

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