Trump: Iran Will Turn Over “Nuclear Dust”

26:34Or if an expert testifies that the plaintiff was injured in the case, we might have the defense lawyer cross-examine and say, isn't it true that you were paid$100 ,000 for your opinions in this case? So we should teach our young people the methodology that we learned when we were in civics classes and that we teach our jurors to apply every single day in the courtroom, which starts first and foremost by applying reason and common sense to scrutinize the incentive structure of the people who are providing you with the message. So, for example, if the message is coming from a foreign government who's a geostrategic enemy of the United States, you should know that and you should think about that.

27:17Yeah. Judge, come back and talk more about this. It's a fascinating topic. And it's one that really concerns a lot of us here on the league. The spread of false information about all sorts of topics, including the Middle East, of course. Thanks again. The breaking news in the Midwest right now. In the Midwestern United States, a severe weather outbreak. You see the storm on the move there. That's around Kansas City, Missouri. We're also starting to see some damage. This one's from an apparent tornado in Stewardsville, Minnesota. That's about 25 miles north of the Iowa state line. Parts of houses just shredded.

27:46We're going to keep following this story. A lot going on this evening. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

27:57Hey, I'm Anderson Cooper. On my podcast, All There Is, we explore grief and loss in all its complexities. You'll hear deeply moving and honest discussions with people who have faced and are living with life-altering losses. A couple of years ago, I began noticing some articles written by a mom named Sarah Wildman. She's a staff writer and editor at the New York Times. Sarah's articles were beautiful and moving. Her daughter, Orly, was 10 when she found out she had the hepatoblastoma. And what she and Sarah and her husband, Ian, and their other daughter, Hannah, went through is extraordinary. It was very hard to know where to sit as caregiver.

28:33I sort of wanted someone to give me a guide as to how to even have this conversation without it all falling apart. Talking grief, building community. That's what the podcast is all about. This is all there is. Listen and follow wherever you get your podcasts. See a nation's enduring love for baseball when Shohei Otani and Japan's biggest Major League stars return home to play in front of their fans for the first time. Homecoming, the Tokyo Series, now streaming on the CNN app. Our health lead now. Another round of intense questioning for HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. On Capitol Hill today, lawmakers pressed the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary on his promotion of medical misinformation.

29:20In one of the most hostile moments from today's hearing, Democratic Congresswoman Lucy McBath of Georgia scolded RFK Jr. about his past remarks on autism. Specifically, his claim that autism, quote, destroys families and that children with autism have no future. Some people with disabilities do need direct care to assist them with activities like going to the bathroom, but that does not mean that they are somehow less than or unable to lead fulfilling and productive lives as you have applied. And nobody said they were. And nobody said they were, RFK Jr. said. But Secretary Kennedy, someone did say they were.

30:02And it was you. It destroys families. More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are children. These are kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job. They'll never play baseball. They'll never write a poem. They'll never go out on a date. Many of them will never use a toilet unassisted. Today, Congresswoman McBath asked RFK Jr. to apologize for his remarks. He refused, stating that he was specifically talking about profound autism, although that's not what he said. He said autism destroys families. Lawmakers also grilled Kennedy about his anti-vaccine rhetoric. So, Secretary Kennedy, does exposing infants and children to measles enhance their health and well-being?

30:55I've never been anti-vaccine. I've always said I'm not anti-vaccine. Mr. Secretary, you have been a longtime voice against vaccination. You cannot deny that. No, I'm not anti-vaccine. He said he's not anti-vaccine. He's pro-science. Receipts, please. There's no vaccine that is, you know, safe and effective. We know, you know, if you've ever compared an unvaccinated kid to a vaccinated kid, and they're completely different. They poisoned an entire generation of American children. They poisoned an entire generation of American children. Now, in yesterday's hearing, Kennedy, who directed the CDC to stop recommending the combined MMRV shot for toddlers under four, MMRV, measles, mumps, rubella, he admitted that the measles vaccine certainly could have saved a six-year-old child who died following the deadly measles outbreak in Texas.

31:56In another hearing this week, Democratic Congresswoman Terry Sewell of Alabama confronted RFK Jr. on his 2024 comments in which he suggested that black children on certain ADHD and other medications should be, quote, re-parented. You are not a doctor, have no formal medical training, and you've never parented a black child, and yet you are suggesting that the federal government should take black children away from their families and reparent them and send them off to some wellness farm instead of providing them with evidence-based medical... You're just making stuff up. I am absolutely not making this up.

32:35She was absolutely not making this up. Here is Secretary Kennedy saying this in 2024 in a podcast. psychiatric drugs, which every black kid has now just put on Adderall, SSRIs, benzos, which are known to induce violence. And those kids are going to have a chance to go somewhere and get reparented. It's been a big week for Secretary Kennedy, along with the marathon of congressional hearings. There is also a new book out titled RFK Jr., The Fall and Rise. The book reveals a diary entry from Kennedy that says, quote, I was standing in front of my parked car on Interstate 684, cutting the penis out of a road-killed raccoon, thinking about how weird some of my family members have turned out to be.

33:32He added that his kids were waiting patiently in the car during this activity. The book highlights how RFK Jr. sees himself, and of course his self-awareness makes him so interesting to cover. In our politics lead, the big fight for control of Congress. Virginia just stays away from a special election that could redefine the very congressional map and tip the balance of power after the midterms this November. I'm going to talk to a candidate now in the race for a district that doesn't even exist yet.

34:12Our politics lead now, Olivia Troy, a former advisor of Vice President Mike Pence, announced that she is running for Congress as a Democrat. The evil I saw in that White House was staggering. In 2020, I finally said, enough, and they came for me. Trump doesn't scare me. I took him on when it mattered the most, and I'm ready to do it again. You might recognize Troy from this show and others. She broke from the Republican Party in 2020 over the Trump administration's handling of the COVID pandemic. And, of course, January 6th, she's now jumping into a crowded race for a Northern Virginia congressional seat that literally does not even yet exist.

34:54Olivia Troy joins us now. Thanks so much for being here. So you're running in the proposed new version of Virginia's 7th congressional district. We've been covering the back and forth on all this. Voters will decide on whether or not this district should exist on a Tuesday. What do you say to Democratic voters out there who are considering voting for you in this seventh district and are wary because you were part of the Trump administration? You joined in 2018, and it wasn't as though he wasn't controversial in 2018. Well, I would say this. First off, I mean, I grew up in a conservative Catholic family, but over time my politics did evolve on whether it was reproductive rights, LGBT rights.

35:40These are things that as I aged, I grew slowly apart from the Republican Party. But I'll say this. In 2016, I did vote for Hillary Clinton, but I was a career intelligence officer. And I believe that national security, when you work in the community, should be nonpartisan and you should serve for the greater good. I love this country more than anything, and I wanted to continue to serve. And so when Donald Trump took office, that's what I did. And I served every day to the best of my ability. I, you know, I had some challenges. It wasn't easy. I found it pretty horrifying at times. And I had to fight people like Stephen Miller and Russ Vogt and Kash Patel in terms of whether it was intelligence products or what they were doing in terms of their extremism and certain things, especially when it came to refugees or Afghan translators.

36:22There were a lot of things that I disagreed with. And ultimately, as you know, in 2020, I had a very public split where I decided to resign my entire career and take a stand for what I believe was right and for the country. And I have been very vocal since then as a Trump critic, especially after January 6th. And I went on and campaigned for Kamala Harris and have been working to elect Democrats since then. So you in your announcement video, and also we've we've covered this on the lead, You said Trump and his allies tried to bankrupt you, threatened to kill you, some of them, just the allies, not the president.

36:55Today you posted that you proudly wear the badge of MAGA's top enemy. But if you were to win the nomination and also the seat, you would be in Congress. And at least a couple of years, Trump would be president. Would you be willing to work with the Trump administration to get things done? Well, what I would say to that is if they're going to continue with the extremism that I'm seeing and the overreach by a lot of the agencies like ICE, who I believe has become a rogue police force and is causing more damage than good when it comes to local state and local police communities, law enforcement who are struggling to figure out how they navigate this dynamic.

37:33I've seen it in Northern Virginia itself, where they're trying to figure out how they maintain the public trust, which is eroding right now when you have this police force that is causing this strain coming from the federal government. So if they're going to behave that way and do the overreach, I'm also very concerned about this war on Iran that I believe is completely unjustified. I don't think that the intelligence community has backed it. I'm concerned about how they're conducting things with the national security community, the fact that they've gutted and undermined government institutions and impacted Northern Virginia in such a way across the board.

38:04These are all the things that I would be questioning and bringing accountability to, and I would be asking and raising serious concerns. So on Tuesday, voters in the Commonwealth of Virginia are going to decide whether or not to redistrict, to make the congressional districts different. It's an unusual mid-decade review, and it's being very criticized harshly by not just Republicans, but by Democrats, too, some Democrats. Now, obviously, this follows Texas doing it first, but I think there are a lot of people in both parties who think all of this is crazy. What do you think about these new congressional districts in Virginia?

38:39I think that in the situation that we are in right now in this moment in our country with the way the Republican Party is behaving and the things that they continue to do across the board impacting whether it's cutting people's health care, targeting Medicare, which many of my family have been on, rely on, and I would say what they're doing in terms of like civil rights, privacy rights, freedom of the press and everything. When you have that and they are behaving and they're trying to do this in other states, I think you have to fight. You have to fight and meet them where they are. And I think that I hope that people will come out and vote for this in Virginia.

39:13I think this is the moment. And I realize, you know, that many people, they may not feel comfortable with it, but nothing about the Trump administration and what MAGA is doing right now is comfortable. And we have to push back on this. I love you, Troy. Thank you so much. Thank you. President Trump is just moments away from speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Phoenix, Arizona. How will he address today's major developments on Iran? We'll bring you that when he begins talking. Stay with us.

39:48President Trump has just started speaking at the Turning Point Action USA conference in Phoenix, Arizona. We're going to monitor that and when he starts saying anything newsy or even just new, we will bring that to you. But for this immediate moment, let's turn to our health lead because we're paging CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, who's taking your questions today, on the subject of his new special, The Rise of the Use of Cannabis, that's marijuana, among women. The topic's part of his new special airing Sunday. It's called Dr. Sanjay Gupta Reports, Weed 8, Women and Weed. So this is the eighth time he's done this.

40:26Sanjay, the first question is from Erica in Canada, who wants to know, what are the short-term and long-term effects on a baby if a mother uses weed while pregnant and while breastfeeding? Well, let me just preface before I answer this question by saying, I think this was perhaps the most surprising, even shocking part of our investigation, the idea that women would be using cannabis, marijuana while pregnant or breastfeeding. But looking at these studies, I mean, it can be pretty significant, anywhere between 7 % to 20 % in some studies of women who are doing this. And there's obviously concerns.

41:05A couple of big headlines. Cannabis does cross the placenta. It does cross the placenta. That was a big question. Studies have confirmed that. Cannabis does get concentrated in breast milk. So the dose in breast milk can even be higher than the dose in the bloodstream. And it's associated with all kinds of harms. I mean, preterm labor, low birth weight, preeclampsia. These studies are hard to do, admittedly. People aren't forthright about their cannabis use. Oftentimes they are co-mingling this with other substances, alcohol, tobacco. So it can be tough to figure out what exactly is causing what.

41:41But this is happening out there. Typically it's a woman who was using cannabis before they got pregnant, maybe for a specific reason like depression or anxiety, and they continue using it. So this was surprising, if not shocking, Jake. And Sanjay Jody in New York, I'm sorry, New Jersey asked, Can marijuana products, specifically those that are edible, be helpful for perimenopause symptoms? How? What's the mechanism? And which symptoms? Yeah. So the short answer here is yes. And this was a big part of the documentary. What inspired this was the idea that women are now outpacing men when it comes to the use of cannabis.

42:17And a lot of that growth is happening among women between the ages of 45 and 60. So those are the headlines. And the reason I think women between the ages of 45 and 60 are driving a lot of this growth is because they're looking to this for possible treatment of symptoms of menopause. So when it comes to sleep, we know THC can be helpful. There have been plenty of studies on this. Also, it can potentially be helpful for anxiety. I think what was interesting was the idea that THC could have an impact on what is known as the hypothalamus of the brain. that is an area of the brain that controls your temperature regulation.

42:53So hot flashes, for example, big concern for women going through menopause. They found that THC could be helpful also for reducing inflammation often associated with it. So early studies, but so far, you know, pretty positive, Jake. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thanks so much. And you can get more when you watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta reports Weed 8, Women and Weed. It's a Sunday night at 8 Eastern here on CNN, then on next day on the CNN app. We're going to go live to President Trump speaking in Phoenix. Let's take a listen.

43:46Iran will be — and you know how we're going to get the dust, right? Iran. We were going to take it anyway. But taking it — taking it that way is slightly more dangerous. But we were going to get it anyway. But Iran, with the help of the USA, has removed or is removing all of the sea mines. And most importantly, it never agreed. And you'll understand, they will never have a nuclear weapon. They will never have a nuclear weapon.

44:23And somebody said, how are we going to get the nuclear dust? We're going to get it by going in with Iran, with lots of excavators, because the B2s, remember when fake news CNN said, well, maybe obliteration is too strong a word. Obliteration. That's so deep. We need the biggest excavators you can imagine. But we're going to go in together with Iran. and we're going to get it, and we're going to take it back home to the USA. Very simply. And now that the Harmer's Strait situation is almost over, I received a call from NATO asking if we would like some help. Thank you very much, NATO. And I told them I would have liked your help two months ago, but now I really don't want your help anymore.

45:15Because they were absolutely useless when we needed them. But actually, we never needed them. They needed us. They need us. They need us so badly. You know, it's a little bit like if you're a politician. It's hard to believe I'm a politician. But after I won, people came up to me. Sir, I'd like to make a major contribution to campaign. And I said, listen, just so you understand, campaign contributions after I won don't count. Okay? They don't count. And NATO, after we won, that doesn't count either. It's the same thing.

45:56But you have to remember that because we spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year. We spend money. We spend, I would say, in many cases, close to a trillion dollars over a couple of years, a trillion of us to help them and we're always helping them and this was just a military excursion this isn't the big this isn't the big time you know we built a military so great i'm so proud of it's one of the including space force you know you see all of that when you see those rockets go one look up there this space force we all created space force didn't exist we were losing to China and to Russia in space.

46:42And now we're so far ahead of them both, you wouldn't believe it. But yesterday, on top of it all, we achieved what everyone said was impossible, an unprecedented ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon. And that hasn't taken place in 78 years. 78 years. Our deal with Iran is not in any way tied to Lebanon, but we will make Lebanon great again. I mean, it's about time we did so. We've sort of the world has forgotten them and they're good people who have lived like hell for a long period of time. And hopefully the situation with Hezbollah will get straightened out quickly. But I want to thank the country of Pakistan and its great prime minister and its great, great field marshal.

47:32He's a great field marshal two fantastic people for helping they really are terrific people and i also want to thank saudi arabia qatar uae bahrain kuwait they've been amazing they've all helped tremendously tremendously

47:53and it took courage for them not easy not easy they were living with what they call the bully of the middle east they had the bully iran was the bully of the middle east they're not the bully anymore. With the help of everyone here today, this has been by far the most successful first year of any administration in the history of our country, acknowledged by everybody.

48:18To begin with, I ended eight wars, and it may be a little early to say this, but if we add Iran and Lebanon, that will be 10 wars ended and many, many millions of lives saved. Think Think of how many lives we've saved.

48:37Starting on day one, we ended the illegal invasion of America. That's an invasion by criminals. Many, many criminals, murderers, drug dealers, prisoners. They emptied out their prisons. All right, that's President Trump speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Arizona. He said that the Strait of Hormuz situation is pretty much done. He said Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. The U.S. will secure Iran's nuclear material. He called it nuclear dust. Once again, he bashed NATO for not helping out more with the war against Iran. CNN's Nick Robertson is in Islamabad, keeping up with the latest in the deal.

49:19And Nick, you heard the president praising not just the prime minister, but the field marshal for helping to bring about these peace talks. Tell us more. Yeah, the field marshal's been in Tehran for the last almost three days negotiating with the Iranians and made some progress, believed to be a strong part behind getting the deal in Lebanon done, the one that Israel and Lebanon or Hezbollah go on a ceasefire, and also credited with helping get the Iranians to then unblock the Strait of Homoz. after that and that really seemed to be some momentum there in Tehran today after that President Trump then took to social media talking about Iran's decision to unblock the Strait of Hamas he said the U.S.

50:08was going to continue with its blockade of Strait of Hamas and then you kind of got this pushback on the Iranian side and I think this is just instructive to understand the divisions that still exist in Iran between the hardliners and those sort of more moderates who are involved in the negotiation. The foreign minister got criticised. The Iranian foreign minister got criticised for his tweet about opening the Strait of Hamas. There were all sorts of conditions attached to it where the ships could actually go. They'd have to have the permission of the IRGC. And then the IRGC came out and said, actually, the United States continuing its blockade was actually a violation of the ceasefire and threatened that their own opening of the Strait of Homo's could change.

50:50That doesn't seem to be the case right now. It does seem that we're on the track towards talks coming up. We're getting from sources here, Iranian sources as well, saying that there will be talks coming up perhaps very early next week. So there does seem to be progress. But also there's still a very clear 20 percent of the deal that hasn't been achieved so far. Pakistan's foreign minister today said 80 percent done. The last 20 percent could really be very tough. And it will be around some of those core issues President Trump was talking about. He says he's got the right to go in with the Iranians and get out what he calls that nuclear duster, highly enriched uranium.

51:31We're hearing from Iranian sources saying that is just not the case. So the Iranians are pushing back on what some of the president is claiming. All right, Nick Robertson in Islamabad, Pakistan. Thank you so much. Here with me now is the British ambassador to the United States, Christian Turner. And we should note for folks not familiar with you and you're new here. And I believe this is your first interview with American media in your new position. It is very good to be with you, Jake. Good evening. It's my first time with CNN and good to be here in the studio. So here's the thing. you also were the UK ambassador to Pakistan and as undersecretary of state, you also were the key negotiator for Iran on the Iran issue.

52:11So you have a lot of expertise here. First of all, I mean, there's a lot I want to ask you about, but one of them is you heard President Trump making his claims to the supportive audience saying Iran has agreed to turn over all nuclear dust, which is what was obliterated a year ago. We heard Nick Robertson say the Iranians are disagreeing with that. He said no money will be exchanged, meaning the$20 billion in assets of Iranians presumably will not be turned over. The Iranian U.S. will be removing the sea mines from the Strait of Hormuz, and the Hormuz situation is almost over. What's your reaction to that news?

52:42I don't know how much of that is actually fully baked, but that's what he's claiming. So look, I really think, Jake, it feels like a breakthrough day. And the talks, as Nick was just reporting last weekend, appeared to cover a lot of ground in a short space of time, and 20 hours, 21 hours of continuous negotiation. I think from the readout I've had from the vice president and his team is that, yeah, about 20 percent remains to be done. And I think to see today the Lebanon ceasefire deal being done, indications that the Iranians are saying, yes, the straits are now fully open, that really, we're all hoping, paves the way for a further round that locks in that final...

53:21But it's always the last 20 percent, right? Isn't that always it? So, I mean, What would be in that 20 %? The Iranian nuclear material destroyed during last June's bombing raids. What else? I think two things, really. The two things this will settle on are, one, that stockpile of enriched uranium. The stuff we're really worried about is the highly enriched, but the president has been very clear. He wants all of that material sorted and dealt with. And then second, it's Iran's commitment never to return to a nuclear program. So you've got to negotiate those two things. And on the other side, Iran will be looking for economic benefit in return.

53:57That is the center of a deal. There were talks around that with Steve Wyckoff and Jared Kushner in Geneva in January, of course, and negotiations I was part of with the E3 when we led to the snapback of sanctions last, what, three years running into last summer. So I broadly think that there is what we would call a ZOPA, a zone of possible agreement. There's a deal that you could do in there. and we all want to support American efforts to get it done because it's vital we get these straits opening in. So President Trump seemed to be reading from the teleprompter when he talked about these points.

54:28I'm not criticizing him for that. My only reason for noting that is that he said no money will be exchanged. Letting the Iranians have$20 billion of their frozen assets technically would not be exchanging money, right? Am I reading too much into that, do you think? Look, I'm not close to the detail of how that would work because I'm not party to these negotiations. Clearly, one of the core things the Iranians will be asking for is for an economic lifeline, in effect. We have all been working to keep economic sanctions and pressure on Iran for many, many years. The UK has had something like over 550 sanctions against individuals and entities and has led the way in Europe to keep that pressure up.

55:09I was talking to Secretary Besant this week with our Chancellor Rachel Reeves about, I think Secretary Besant called it economic fury, Operation Economic Fury, to keep that pressure up. So I think what has to be clear is any benefit can only accrue to Iran once we are sure we've got the things we want, which is an end to their nuclear program and the Straits of Hormuz open. And that has to be without any tolling, any restrictions. freedom of navigation is vital in this. You heard the president bringing up NATO in a now familiar refrain of his bad-mouthing NATO, bad-mouthing the alliance, which includes the UK, I don't need to remind you, saying now countries in NATO are offering to help when it comes to keeping the Strait of Hormuz safe for unfettered travel.

56:03He said, I don't want your help. We had an expert, former deputy national intelligence director, telling us that that's unwise, that the U.S. does need NATO's help. First of all, what was your response when he brought up NATO and the crowd started booing? Because that doesn't come out of nowhere. That comes from President Trump expressing concerns and, frankly, trashing NATO and the alliance for years and years. What's your response when you hear Americans booing NATO? Yeah. Well, look, first of all, I think I'll say something you might not expect me to, which is to praise President Trump's leadership on demanding the burden sharing of Europe on NATO.

56:40No, I'm actually used to Europeans doing that because it's true. It's true. It's an achievement of this. Absolutely. Exactly right. And it was a fair challenge. And the response since I sat right behind him in the NATO Council Chamber, and I think it was 2018 when he first made that challenge. We have now seen a doubling of European spend on NATO since 2014 for European procurement. So our buying of weapons for the first time since the Second World War is more than America. That might worry American arms industry, but we are now producing and procuring more weapons in Europe. For the UK's part, we're on a track to 3.5 percent by 2035.

57:215 % in total is the collective pledge at the Hague Summit. So the president has driven that. UK figures that - Yeah, but now he's talking about NATO being a paper tiger and how the US doesn't even, shouldn't even be part of it. Of course, one of the things we should emphasize is that NATO is a defensive alliance. It is there for our shared protection. And only one time in NATO's history has Article 5 been triggered - After 9-11. After 9-11. So look, I think it's important that together what you'll hear from ambassadors like me, from leaders in Europe, from Mark Rutter, who has been so solid on this, is we get the need to step up and we are doing it.

57:59What you're seeing is this extraordinary rise in defense spend to meet this shared challenge. The other thing I would emphasize is that what we've seen today in Paris is effort from, it's been led by my Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, and the French President Emmanuel Macron, but it is to really lean into the president's ask on the Straits of Hormuz. So once this blockade is done, once this deal is done, which we're all hoping it will, we will then still need to reassure shipping that they can get through the strait. How do we do that? Well, we've got 51 countries, leaders from across the world today, South Korea, Japan, Africa, Asia, the Gulf, to say we are committed to do that.

58:39We are not going to accept, as I said, tolls and restrictions in this strait. That is going to lead to a collective military mission for demining, escorts, intelligence, command and control that I hope will now be able to take over seamlessly. And we're doing it in coordination with our U.S. friends once this deal is done. Before you go, I need to ask you, because King Charles and Queen Camilla are set to visit the U.S. in just about two weeks. The King's going to speak before Congress. He's going to attend a state dinner at the White House. My invitation must have been lost in the mail. But what - We haven't sent them out yet.

59:11Don't worry, Jim. Okay, well, still. What do you anticipate the king's mission will be here, especially when he meets with U.S. leaders? What is he going to be talking about? So, look, it plays, in a sense, to the NATO point we've just been discussing. The ties between us are so deep and enduring. This is a celebration between the American people and the British people in their 250th year. The king, of course, sits above politics constitutionally. So a chance for him to visit and celebrate this extraordinary birthday is what we want to be focusing on. We had, you might put it, a small disagreement 250 years ago in 1776.

59:47There was another one in 1812. And there have been a few others since, but that's the point. You burned down our White House. Only once have we burned down the White House. I think... The king won't do it again. The king won't enjoy being in the East Room and looking at the new ballroom site. But the point is we will want to build above that, show that even though we have differences, The economic ties we have, we're the largest investor in 21 states, 430 billion of trade growing up 4%, our deep security, intelligence ties, all of that with those people links. That's what we want their magistrates to be celebrating for this wonderful birthday.

1:00:22UK Ambassador Christian Turner, an honor having you here, sir. Thank you so much. See you soon, I hope. Look forward to being back. Thank you. President Trump is speaking now still at a Turning Point USA event in Arizona. ahead of his speech, CNN caught up with some of his supporters for their thoughts on the war with Iran. Can he convince them that this is, in fact, what they voted for? And that's a record for any country anywhere in the world by a lot.

1:00:49And we're back. We're continuing to monitor President Trump's live remarks at a Turning Point USA event in Phoenix, Arizona. He claimed Iran has agreed to forfeit all of its, quote, nuclear dust to the United States in these current negotiations. The Iranian sources dispute that with CNN. Joining us now, Congressman Carlos Jimenez, Republican from Florida. Congressman, we're hearing different things between the red lines, the administration's drawing in these negotiations, what the Iranians say they're willing to agree to, not surprisingly for any peace negotiation until it's agreed to. People are talking about different things.

1:01:21How do you think these talks will go next week? Look, I think that there are some must-haves that we've got to have, and one of them is we need to have that nuclear material one way or the other, and also a guarantee, not just a guarantee from Iran, but also a way to verify that Iran is not starting a nuclear program, especially if this regime somehow survives. I don't trust this regime at all. And so part of it has to be the regime is going to stay in place. At any time, at any place of our choosing, we can go to any place in Iran to verify that a nuclear program isn't being started by Iran. Second thing is you have to have open commerce through the Straits of Hormuz.

1:02:05That is a must-have. And so those are two must-haves, and I'm sure there are some other things that the president wants from Iran. The problem that I think that we're seeing is that who's really in charge in Iran? All right. And so, you know, we haven't seen the Ayatollah in a while. And so is he is he in charge or is he alive? And who's calling the shots? And there may be different factions working here in Iran. Some telling us, yeah, we're willing to do that. And then some others say, no, we're not willing to do that. We won't know until we get into full fledged negotiations in Pakistan. down.

1:02:39So sources tell CNN that the Trump administration is considering, just considering the unfreezing of$20 billion in Iranian assets as part of the negotiations. President Trump recently said in the speech he's giving right this second, that no money, there will be no exchange of funds. But that's not technically the same thing as unfreezing Iran's assets itself. Although we should note that President Trump and lots of Republicans criticized the Obama administration for a$400 million cash delivery to Iran the same day as a nuclear deal. The president, current president, President Trump, tweeted back then, our current incompetent Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, was the one who started talks to get$400 million in cash to Iran scandal.

1:03:23What is your reaction to this part of a potential new deal? We just heard the UK ambassador basically suggesting, and I'm paraphrasing him, but basically suggesting that any such unfreezing of assets maybe could come, but only if Iran agrees to everything that the U.S. wants. Yeah, I agree with the ambassador that it has to be not only an agreement, but over a period of time where we actually see them carrying out the things that they agree to. Like I said, I don't trust this regime. And so I wouldn't turn over one dime of their money until it's demonstrated through action that Iran is doing the things that they have agreed to.

1:04:02And then it is their money. And so I understand that. But now we have we have the leverage and I don't think we should be giving that up at all. CNN's Steve Contorno caught up with some Trump supporters before the start of the speech in Arizona. Here's what one of them had to say about the war in Iran. Take a listen. I think ultimately he's a populist president. So I think the war isn't a populist issue. So hopefully we're able to get out of that and hopefully we get back to affordability. Right. I think we voted for like you saw the stickers all the time. Right. We're OK with mean tweets as long as we get low gas prices.

1:04:34So he was saying there that the war is not a populist issue, even though they want a populist president. The triple A national gas average today is four dollars and eight cents per gallon, four dollars and nine cents per gallon in your home state of Florida, four dollars, 62 cents in Arizona, where the president's speaking today. How worried are you about any fractures in support for President Trump and the Republican Party over these two agenda items that he ran on, lowering gas prices, lowering prices in general and no foreign wars? Well, number one, on lowering the gas prices, the prices of gas today are still below the height of the Biden administration when the Biden administration was waging full out war against fossil fuels in this country.

1:05:19Can you imagine if we'd actually followed through with that? We would still be energy deficient. We'd have to be importing our gas and oil. Our gas prices would be shooting through the roof. Thank God that President Trump said, no, we're going to drill and we're going to become not only energy independent, we're going to become energy dominant. So, look, I have faith that once this conflict is over, gas prices are going to come down like a rock and really fast and get under$3 a gallon. We have other things that we've done in the House to put more money in Americans' pockets. They're seeing the results of that now through their tax returns.

1:05:58It's 11 percent higher tax returns to the average American family now than last year, probably the highest rates of return in their history. And so those are tangible results that we've made. But I also have to remind people why we're here. The reason that we're here and the reason we have all these prices and the high prices is the unbelievable inflation rate during the Biden administration. And so now what we're trying to do is bring it down. And that's going to take a little bit of time. We have to convince the American people of that. As far as populists and not getting into a foreign war, look, it's America first.

1:06:34And if President Trump is able to get Iran to stop building a nuclear weapon, not to seek to be a nuclear power, and to bring it back into the community of nations, they're an outlier right now. That's a huge benefit to America. It's a huge benefit to us now and more so to our children and grandchildren that aren't going to have to fight this battle when they're grown up. And so I have no problem with what the president is doing right now. All right, Florida Republican Congressman Carlos Jimenez, thank you so much, sir. Appreciate it. Would you pay$150 for a train ticket to travel nine miles? Would you pay$80 for a bus ticket to travel that same distance?

1:07:19World Cup fans may not have a choice in just a few weeks. The ridiculous fees are adding up. That story's next.

1:07:30In our combined sports lead and money lead, sticker shock. For FIFA World Cup fans planning to attend matches at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey, a round-trip train ticket from New York to New Jersey is going to cost you$150. The usual price, about$13. There's a limit on how many train tickets New Jersey Transit is selling per match. Only 40 ,000. So maybe you think about a shuttle bus. That will cost you$80. And you can't drive yourself. Parking at the stadium, simply not allowed. CNN's Bryn Gingras reports from MetLife on the sudden transit price hike as fans spend thousands just to attend one single game.

1:08:14World Cup excitement is at fever pitch. With less than two months until kickoff, fans more and more feeling sticker shock. You had a big reaction when I said over$100. Yeah, that's insane. $150. That's not the price of a ticket to a match in New Jersey. That's how much it will cost to get there and back from New York City. The price tag announced today by state officials. This is no ordinary event. In order to move 40 ,000 people and to pay for the cost of$6 million, we have to charge$150. Normally, the ticket for that nine-mile ride is about$13. box. Officials say because of heightened security, there will be no parking for fans at the stadium.

1:08:56So public transit will be the best way to get to the games and partly why the cost is so high. As a consumer, it'll push people away from going. And I don't think it's fair to overcharge for that reason. One of the reasons we have public transportation to be able to go to these things without having to pay extra. New Jersey's governor taking out her own frustrations on FIFA, the governing body of the World Cup. FIFA is providing zero dollars for transportation to the World Cup. Zero. Promising to not let everyday commuters shoulder the cost. In a statement, FIFA responded saying in part, FIFA is not aware of any other major event previously held at New York, New Jersey Stadium, where organizers were required to pay for fan transportation.

1:09:39There are other options for fans, but again, not cheap. A shuttle bus from New York City will cost $80. And you see MetLife Stadium there? Well, we're across the street at the American Dream Mall, where there will be a number of parking spots reserved if you must drive, but they'll cost at least$225. And that price, well, it's expected to also go up. You pay another$100 for your popcorn and your hot dog as well. So it's going to be expensive, but I think the ticket is expensive as is. It is. Right now, a top-tier ticket for one of the seven qualifying games at New York-New Jersey Stadium start at$1 ,800.

1:10:15The final, that's pricing out at more than$16 ,000 per ticket. It's not even worth it to me because if I can't get into Penn Station, how am I going to get to, and you can't drive to the Meadowlands, so what am I going to do? And I also like the ticket prices, so it's just not even worth it. You're not even looking? Nope. Yeah, Jake, she says she's just going to go to a bar. That is her only option. Now, There are other U.S. host cities, Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Kansas City, that are not jacking up their transit fares. The way New Jersey officials explain that is they say in these cities, the stadiums are within the city limits and therefore fans have more transportation options.

1:10:53Jake. Ah, Jersey. Fringe ingress outside MetLife Stadium. Thank you so much. The breaking news in the Midwest in the United States. Tonight, a severe weather outbreak. New video shows another tornado in Minnesota, just north of Iowa. Stay with CNN for coverage of this major weather event unfolding tonight. We're back in a moment.

1:11:19Politics now. The Justice Department has launched an investigation into now former Democratic Congressman Eric Swalwell of California. He resigned from Congress Monday of this week amid multiple allegations of sexual assault and more. He also suspended his campaign for governor of California. Swalwell denies any legal wrongdoing. He vowed to fight what he describes as the serious false allegations. Joining us now is Cheyenne Hunt. She's a Democratic influencer and former candidate. One of the first allegations about the former congresswoman was shared on her platform. It's actually how I first learned about the seriousness of the allegations that some people were making.

1:11:57So Swalwell's downfall was pretty swift. Only Cesar Chavez comes to mind as something that was as quick. In less than a week, he went from the frontrunner or a frontrunner in the California gubernatorial race to exiting not just that contest, but Congress. Walk us through your view of how it all played out on your end as survivors came to you with their stories. It was surreal, Jake, truly surreal. So my close personal friend, Annika Albrecht, reached out to me 17 days ago now and disclosed that she had had an experience of sexual harassment with a congressman and that it had altered the entire trajectory of her career and that she knew that there were others and that she had heard on the Hill that there were NDAs.

1:12:41I worked on the Hill. I had heard rumors for years that Swalwell was a creep, but this was beyond what I knew. She asked me to use my platform to make a video and I did. within hours I was getting flooded with direct messages from women who wanted to tell me their stories and they all thought that they were alone. I was on the phone with women who were as young as 18 years old talking about being harassed as interns and then I was hearing stories of sexual assault and I realized that this was much bigger than any of us knew and that we were gonna have to assemble a team and I have to give credit to the investigative team at CNN who we worked with really closely and opted to bring these women.

1:13:18Pamela and Allie and the team, amazing work. Yeah, absolutely amazing and great rapport with these survivors, and they built that trust. And I was just thrilled to be able to be a conduit for that trust and to say, you can come here and your anonymity will be protected. We connected them with pro bono legal counsel, so they knew their rights. And I'm glad we did too. And those lawyers were incredible because Swalwell's team definitely tried to intimidate them and tried to keep them silent, but they were brave and they moved forward and here we are. And so you alluded to something, which is that it was something of an open secret that he was considered, Swalwell, to be, for want of a better term, a womanizer, to hit on women.

1:14:00What I had, I'd never heard any specifics, but that was certainly his reputation. Same with Matt Gaetz, I might note. What I had never heard, the more serious allegations of harassment, of him doing this within his own staff, and then obviously sexual assault, rape are serious allegations that he denies. What is the atmosphere like on Capitol Hill in general? How common is this kind of alleged behavior? Well, I don't think it's common for people to be fully sexually assaulting women, especially not at the rate and scale that we saw with Congressman Swalwell. That being said, the Hill is a really unique environment that is ripe for exploitation.

1:14:40You have congressmen who are shining stars that you see on your television that are imbued with all of this authority. And then the Hill is staffed by young people, really young people. And they're hungry and they're ambitious and they're trying to catch their big break. And that power dynamic is just dangerous, frankly. And then you add in the fact that it's incredibly hard to report these incidents, that there are rules and the congressional acts that have been passed, like in 2018, put rules in place to protect some of these women. And yet they're not well enforced. And House ethics investigations are notoriously useless and slow.

1:15:17And it's a really intimidating process to go through. And so there is no meaningful recourse. Are there any other members of Congress or others that you're looking into hearing stories about? Yeah, and I don't think you would necessarily be surprised. Some of them are kind of publicly sweating on television right now. And we are hearing things and absolutely looking into it and working with women. Do you feel proud of the work you did? I'm grateful that I was trusted. It's incredible to get a DM from somebody revealing something that's really traumatic that could threaten their career if they came forward and they trusted me to advocate for them.

1:15:54And that's a true privilege. And I'm proud of them for putting their necks out to save other women from what was likely to come. And I'm incredibly proud now to see that this is going beyond Capitol Hill, that these women that we worked with together, it started as three girls in a group chat, and now we've sparked a movement. People are talking about a reckoning and a Me Too Part 2, and I'm excited to be able to be a part of this work. I don't want to denigrate the word influencer because I know it means a lot, especially for your generation, but I think you are an advocate, and I think that's a word you should embrace.

1:16:26And thank you so much for trusting us here at CNN with the stories. Cheyenne Hunt, thank you so much. Thank you. The usually private U.S. Supreme Court justices are now, in some instances, squabbling in public. Is this the new normal or just a temporary lapse of decorum? Our special Supreme Court panel is here next.

1:16:49The U.S. Supreme Court justices this week are doing something fairly rare. They're airing some dirty laundry in public. Here's Justice Clarence Thomas slamming what he sees as the dangers of Wilsonian, Woodrow Wilson, progressivism. Progressivism seeks to replace the basic premises of the Declaration of Independence. and hence our form of government. It holds that our rights and our dignities come not from God, but from government. It requires of the people a subservience and weakness incompatible with a constitution premised on the transcendent origin of our rights. Progressivism, in other words, is retrogressive.

1:17:37Some progressives taking issue with those comments. Those comments came the same day that his fellow justice, Sonia Sotomayor, issued a rare public apology for what she called hurtful comments about her colleague, Justice Brett Kavanaugh. Joining us now, two authors on this topic, Supreme Court, James Rosen, author of Scalia, and Sarah Isker, author of Last Branch Standing. Two excellent books, both of them about the Supreme Court. I'm holding them up. You want to show them? Okay. Okay. Scalia's Supreme Court years, 1986 to 2001. And last branch standing a potentially surprising, occasionally witty journey inside today's Supreme Court.

1:18:13Different, but on the same topic. And we're taking the opportunity of this news to have them on the show. Sarah, let's start with Justice Thomas' comments. What did you make of them? Obviously, he was talking about Wilsonian progressivism. But there are progressives out there who took some offense. Look, this is like a hundred-year experiment we're talking about. It wasn't partisan. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive. The eugenicist, Oliver Wendell Holmes, was a progressive. This was about replacing Congress, who they thought, you know, were sort of dumb, dumb rubes, with experts. And the point is that this has caused Congress to stop doing its job, which is why we have so much pressure now in the Supreme Court.

1:18:48They're the last word when we should be blaming Congress. And James, listen to Justice Thomas, another comment he made. He also made this.

1:18:58When the court dealt with differences as friends, as we respected each other. And I don't know how that civility, I don't know how you bring it back in the current environment with social media and name calling. So, Justice Thomas, they're kind of longing for a day of when the Supreme Court was friendlier to each other. I should note, wrong book, that Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg famously embodied what he's talking about, that kind of civility, even though they disagreed ferociously. That's right. This is what William F. Buckley Jr. used to call trans ideological friendships. And I'm sure they still take place on the Supreme Court.

1:19:38But you take those comments from Justice Sotomayor, she called them hurtful. She also recognized that the word she used, they were inappropriate because she was suggesting that Justice Kavanaugh doesn't have empathy with Latinos. And the truth is, this is the real divide on the court. It's not between conservatives and liberals. It's between those judges and justices who value the original meaning of the Constitution. and various statutes, and those judges and justices who think they should be allowed to expand the meaning of an existing legal text like the Constitution or what have you. And if you believe in original meaning of the text, it doesn't matter whether you have empathy as a judge or not.

1:20:15The only thing that matters is whether you're adhering to the actual text and the meaning of the law as it carried when it was enacted. So let's talk about that because she issued this apology for saying this on April 7th about Kavanaugh. She said, I had a colleague in that case who wrote, you know, these are only temporary stops. This is from a man whose parents were professionals and probably doesn't really know any person who works by the hours. You know, she said, as James noted, that the comments were inappropriate. She regrets them. Were you surprised by her mea culpa? No, I actually predicted that she would end up apologizing.

1:20:47Sometimes you say something in public and it doesn't come out quite right. Justice Sotomayor has cared a great deal about civility. She was one of the first justices to really welcome Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Barrett to the court after their contentious confirmation hearings. It doesn't mean she doesn't mean what she said in terms of how upset she is about the Perdomo outcome. She's talked about going back to her chambers and crying, whereas Justice Kagan goes back and punches a wall sometimes. But she really does care about civility. She does roadshows with these other justices. I just don't think she meant to say that.

1:21:17And James, there have been questions over whether Justices Thomas and Alito will retire while President Trump is still in office, giving the president another chance to cement his legacy and have, what, that would be five Supreme Court justices? I don't know if any president has ever done that. President Trump was actually asked about this this week. Take a listen. Look, you know, there's a theory. You reach a certain age and you give up your seat if you have the president. You know, the average is like 40 years. It's a long time. So then your ideology, your policies, your everything would be of the kind that we like.

1:21:53But it's probably not easy to give up for people. They reach a certain age. Ginsburg could not do it. What do you think? I don't think we will see either Justice Thomas or Justice Alito retire anytime soon. They both consider they're at the top of their game. And there's some momentous cases coming up. And I think a lot of people think that Justice Thomas, for example, is motivated by if he just serves until May of 2028, he'll become the longest serving justice. But in fact, I think he's motivated by a desire certainly to continue sitting. But when he was confirmed, he said, the liberals have tortured me for 43 years.

1:22:31Now I'm going to make their life miserable for 43 years. That will keep him on the court till 2034, Jacob. What do you say? I agree that I don't think we'll see either retire. But watch for the White House to start offering maybe some sweetener to the deal for Justice Alito, maybe some promises or public statements over who they might appoint to replace him, like one of his former clerks currently on a circuit court. All right. Thanks to both of you. Go out and get the books. Appreciate it. In our pop culture lead, you probably know him from his iconic performance as shady lawyer Saul Goodman in Breaking Bad.

1:23:06And then, of course, the sequel show Better Call Saul. Now, in his latest film, Bob Odenkirk is no longer providing legal advice, but rather laying down the law. His new movie, Normal, features Odenkirk taking on the role of an interim sheriff in a small town called Normal, which, as it turns out, is anything but. Here's a little clip. Is that a police scanner you got? You keeping tabs on me? Yes, sir. This is a hell of an armory.

1:23:38Did she catch that? Yeah, that's my one trick. What do you think of our little town? It's charming. Joining us now, Bob Odenkirk. Bob, congrats on the film. Exciting, action-packed, thrilling, start to finish. I have to say, most of us know you, or some of us know you, from all the way back from Mr. Show, you know, with the world of comedy. Then you had a kind of a comedic role, but not... It changed, right? Saul Goodman. And then became a dramatic role. And now a completely new genre, action. How did this all happen? Well, I don't know. It's Hollywood. Anything can happen. I just had a notion because Better Call Saul played all around the world that if I could do a movie that would play around the world, the movie action does that.

1:24:28And I was willing to train. So I said to my manager, hey, is there anybody who wants to write me an action movie? And we found Derek Kolstad, one of the great action writers in the world. He wrote John Wick. He wrote Nobody. And now he wrote Normal. So, right. I mean, Nobody and Nobody 2, both of which are great. That's your first entree into action. Yeah. And I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but usually the action stars that we're used to are usually like Arnold or Jason Momoa. Yeah. and you're fit, but you're normal. I'm a regular guy. Yeah, you're normal, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:25:14I've trained with the best stunt people in the world for years, and I've learned the very basics, and we design fights that I can do. And in normal, I play a sheriff, and I'm fighting in a kitchen. I'm fighting in a hardware store. I'm fighting in places that you recognize. I'm not in space. I don't grab onto planes and go up into the air. I just never quit. It makes it more believable in a way. Yeah, well, I think what makes it believable is I fall down all the time. And we leave it in. We leave it in the film. I don't think Tom Cruise is letting them leave his slip-ups in Mission Impossible.

1:25:52But when I, actually in this film, normal, I fall down twice when I'm fighting. And we left it in because I like to play a vulnerable hero. somebody who is actually getting hurt when he gets hit and who is getting slowly slowly beaten down but never quits. So Derek Kolstad with your collaborator. Yes and Ben Wheatley the director a great director who's made numerous action films and he brings to normal all these genre feelings so it's kind of got some comedy through the whole movie. It's got suspense for about a half hour then it turns into an action film and then it kind of turns into a horror film.

1:26:33You know, Weapons is a great horror film from last year and those horror film moments that a strange feeling of something bad's gonna happen and then something bad happens that is ludicrous and big and you can only laugh. We have a lot of those moments in Normal. Is it tougher working in comedy or action? I mean, I have a suspicion. Oh, I don't know. I mean, no, drama is the hardest thing. Action is fun. Action is choreography. Action is a new area for me, but I've been doing it now for about five years, six years, and I've gotten more comfortable in there. But I love comedy so much. It's still my go-to place, and there's a lot of comedy in Normal because of that and also because of the writer and director.

1:27:27Bob, it's a great film. Congratulations. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks, Jake. Coming up Sunday on State of the Union, we're going to have Energy Secretary Chris Wright going to talk about the Strait of Hormuz and all the rest. Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik. That's Sunday at 9 a.m. and noon Eastern on CNN. Until then, you can follow me on Facebook, Instagram, ThreadsX. And on the TikTok at Jake Taffer. Don't forget Blue Sky. You can follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead CNN. If you ever miss an episode of The Lead, you can watch the show on the CNN app. Aaron Burnett out front.

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