In short
President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago diplomacy on Gaza/Israel, Russia-Ukraine, and related claims, plus winter storm impacts, the Justice Department’s Jeffrey Epstein file releases, and a pop-culture/sports segment.
Guests and backgrounds
- Elena Trin (CNN, studio correspondent) and Matthew Chance (CNN, Jerusalem) report on the meetings.
- Congresswoman Madeline Dean (D-PA, Foreign Affairs Committee) comments on Gaza and Ukraine.
- Caitlin Polantz (CNN Crime and Justice) covers Epstein files.
- Danielle Bensky (Epstein survivor) discusses survivor concerns about the DOJ releases.
- Kevin O’Leary (Shark Tank investor) discusses his film role in Marty Supreme.
- David Sanger (CNN analyst) provides national security context.
- Panelists later discuss 2026 politics (including NYC mayoral figure Zoran Mamdani) and political violence.
Key claims / notable examples
- Trump says phase two of the Israel-Hamas ceasefire would require Hamas disarmament quickly; Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner would oversee; if Hamas doesn’t disarm, Trump threatens “very bad problems” and potential action by other countries.
- Trump claims Putin told him a Ukrainian drone targeted Putin’s residence; Ukraine denies it.
- Zelensky says Ukraine can’t win without American support and stresses battlefield dependence on U.S. weapons.
- Epstein files: Polantz says new records show deeper ties (including Trump’s name on flight logs) but many materials remain redacted/unreleased; Bensky alleges inconsistent redactions (including her contact info) and poor DOJ communication.
- Winter weather: blinding snow and extreme winds cause multi-car crashes (I-75) and power outages.
- Sports/news: Anthony Joshua crash aftermath; New Jersey helicopter mid-air collision kills two pilots.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Peace Efforts with Netanyahu
0:48 to 3:29
Discussion on Trump's meeting with Netanyahu and efforts to initiate peace.
“We start with our world lead as President Donald Trump tries to wrap up 2025 by pushing for peace in major global conflicts.”
Zelensky's Statements and Concerns
3:29 to 5:51
Examination of Zelensky's remarks on Ukraine's dependence on US support.
“One was just how much praise both leaders were heaping on the other.”
Analysis of the Meeting Dynamics
5:51 to 7:20
Insights into the dynamics and expectations surrounding the meetings.
“We know that includes security guarantees.”
Congresswoman Dean's Perspectives
7:20 to 11:32
Congresswoman Dean shares her views on the implications of Trump's actions.
“I wanna say that I'm pleased that the president met with Prime Minister Netanyahu today and yesterday with the president of Ukraine, Mr.”
Epstein Files and Justice Department Updates
12:38 to 14:01
Discussion on the release of Epstein files and their implications.
“Are tax refund worries holding you back?”
New Findings on Epstein's Relationships
14:01 to 16:49
Explore the recent updates regarding Jeffrey Epstein's connections and the ongoing investigations.
“We think that that is going to be quite a lot.”
Survivor Perspectives on DOJ Handling
16:50 to 19:08
Hear from Epstein survivor Danielle Bensky about the frustrations with the handling of case documents.
“I want to bring in Epstein survivor, Danielle Bensky, to give her perspective.”
The Impact of Power on Vulnerability
19:09 to 20:44
Discuss the broader implications of power dynamics highlighted by Epstein's case.
“And there's no answer for why these files, why now?”
Weather Update: Winter Storm Effects
20:45 to 21:00
Get an update on the severe winter weather impacting U.S. cities.
“I think, you know, the answer wasn't, oh, we should have never done this.”
Kevin O'Leary's New Film Role
24:55 to 27:24
Discover insights from Kevin O'Leary about his role in a new film and its significance.
“A combination of big money and Hollywood glamour tops today's pop lead.”
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Behind the Scenes of Filming
27:25 to 31:45
Gain insights into the filming process and collaboration among cast members.
“I want to give people a little bit more flavor of what the movie's like and how you are in it.”
The Legacy of a Scene
31:45 to 31:55
Discover the unexpected physicality and memorable moments in a film scene.
“wait what there's just two days left in 2025 yeah seriously still thinking about what we're just talking about some of the biggest political stories bound to spill over into 2026.”
Political Dynamics Ahead of 2026
32:06 to 37:50
Explore the political landscape leading into 2026, including key figures and events.
“The relationship between the FBI director and the president has always been complicated.”
Tragic News in Sports
38:03 to 40:58
Hear about the recent crash involving boxing champion Anthony Joshua and its implications.
“In our sports lead, new video shows the aftermath of the crash that injured boxing champion Anthony Joshua and killed two others in Nigeria today.”
Trump's Meetings with World Leaders
42:00 to 44:48
Learn about President Trump's recent diplomatic meetings and their implications.
“This morning, President Trump spoke by phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin just one day after holding high-stakes talks with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky.”
Confusion Over Netanyahu's Pardon
44:48 to 46:48
Explore the uncertainty surrounding the potential pardon for Netanyahu amidst conflicting statements.
“Yeah, still significant questions outstanding.”
Allegations and Intelligence Briefings
46:48 to 52:52
Delve into the allegations surrounding attacks on Putin's residence and U.S. intelligence responses.
“Caitlin Collins, Matthew Chance, two of the best in the business.”
Investigation into Fraud in Minnesota
52:52 to 56:00
Understand the ongoing investigations into alleged fraud related to federal funds in Minnesota.
“Well, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem posting this video today, announcing federal investigators are on the ground in Minnesota, quote, conducting a massive investigation into suspected fraud.”
Investigations into Fraud in Programs
56:00 to 56:44
Learn about the ongoing investigations into fraud and program integrity in certain facilities.
“investigations into these specific facilities, one of which was already closed.”
Tariffs Impacting Coffee Prices
56:44 to 57:01
Discover how tariffs affect everyday products like coffee and potential price increases.
“at how tariffs are impacting something that most of us have every single day.”
U.S. Military Strike on Drug Boat
57:01 to 58:42
Get insights into the latest U.S. military operations targeting drug trafficking and its implications.
“Defense Secretary Pete Hegsteth has just announced another U.S.”
Myanmar's Controversial Elections
58:42 to 1:00:28
Understand the context and controversies surrounding Myanmar's elections amid a civil war.
“Well, also in our world lead, voters in Myanmar lined up to cast ballots in a staggered, controversial general election.”
Aung San Suu Kyi's Influence and Current Situation
1:00:28 to 1:02:04
Learn about Aung San Suu Kyi's political impact and her current status in Myanmar.
“Critics say it's designed to keep her silent in local politics.”
Economic Predictions for 2023
1:02:04 to 1:03:09
Explore expert predictions on the U.S. economy and inflation as we enter a new year.
“Well, between holiday travel, buying gifts and hosting big family meals, it's been inexpensive the last few weeks for many Americans.”
The Effects of Tariffs on Businesses
1:03:09 to 1:07:49
Examine how tariffs have impacted businesses, with a focus on a small coffee accessory company.
“And when you paid for something, gold flew out of the country.”
Challenges of Running a Coffee Accessory Business
1:08:16 to 1:10:08
Listen to a small business owner discuss the challenges faced due to tariff changes.
“We're a small company out of Montana with about 20 employees, and we import a lot of coffee accessories, as you shared.”
Discussion on Price Reductions and Tariffs
1:10:08 to 1:11:31
Exploring the potential for price reductions and the need for targeted tariffs.
“We'd love to keep growing here in Montana, employ the great people in Montana that do great jobs.”
Transition to Political Panel Discussion
1:11:31 to 1:11:54
Introducing the political panel to discuss J.D. Vance's 2028 plans.
“owner of Planetary Design, thank you very much for sharing your story.”
Analyzing J.D. Vance's Political Strategy
1:11:54 to 1:15:09
Examining Vance's strategy for the 2028 election amidst party fractures.
“In our politics lead, as we say goodbye to 2025, we're just three days away from the start of a new election year.”
Marjorie Taylor Greene's Political Journey
1:15:09 to 1:17:44
Discussing Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent actions and her relationship with Trump.
“They think he's going to have a hard time with voters come past the midterms.”
The Impact of Loyalty in Politics
1:17:44 to 1:18:48
Exploring the implications of loyalty in Greene's relationship with Trump.
“And let's not forget the people that actually said this is about the victims.”
Winter Storm Update and Impact
1:18:48 to 1:19:51
Discussing the severe winter storm affecting travel and conditions across the U.S.
“Well, a winter storm bearing down on millions of Americans tonight.”
New Year's Eve Weather Forecast
1:19:51 to 1:21:49
Providing an overview of the weather forecast for New Year's Eve celebrations.
“whether it's straight up lake effect snow, lake enhanced snow.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03The hot spot for world leaders these days, Palm Beach, Florida. The lead starts right now. Zelensky one day, Netanyahu the next, the revolving door at Mar-a-Lago as President Trump takes up some of the biggest conflicts on the planet. But is he making progress? Plus, at the extreme howling winds, blinding snow, winter weather causing havoc, and to blame for crashes that shut down one of the busiest interstates in the country. And Mr. Wonderful's new gig, Kevin O 'Leary, yeah, the Shark Tank guy, will be here to discuss his new role opposite none other than Timothee Chalamet in a film that's getting Oscar buzz.
0:48Welcome to The Lead. I'm Phil Mattingly in for Jake Tapper. We start with our world lead as President Donald Trump tries to wrap up 2025 by pushing for peace in major global conflicts. Today, at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, the president hosting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the two speaking publicly just moments ago, with Trump saying he will try to initiate the second phase of the ceasefire deal, quote, as quickly as we can. The first phase, of course, in October, stopped the fighting between Israel and Hamas. The second phase would include Hamas disarming, the beginning of Reconstruction, and the establishment of post-war governance.
1:23Then there's the nearly four-year war between Russia and Ukraine, which Trump once repeatedly said he could solve in just one day. Well, this morning, Trump spoke to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the phone just one day after hosting Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at Mar-a-Lago. Trump says Putin told him that a Ukrainian drone attack targeted one of his residences. Ukraine denies it, but here's what Trump said about it. It's another thing to attack his house. It's not the right time to do any of that and can't do it. And I learned about it from President Putin today. I was very angry about it.
1:59Now, that remark came on the heels of the president yesterday, claiming that Russia wanted Ukraine to succeed. I want you to pay close attention to the reaction here from Zelensky. They're going to be helping. Russia is going to be helping. Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed. It sounds a little strange, but I was explaining to the president And President Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding, including supplying energy, electricity and other things at very low prices. Just moments ago in an interview on Fox News, President Zelensky stressed that Ukraine cannot win the war without American support.
2:42If we are speaking, can we win without American support? No. because we can't first. We will think about all the soldiers will think only about their families. And without American support, we can't defend the sky. Even now, it's very difficult. And on the battlefield, we use some weapon, which we buy from America, some rounds, artillery, and et cetera, from Americans. Without it, of course, we can't win. We start things off with CNN's Elena Trin here in studio. Elena, it's been a rather busy couple of days down in Mar-a-Lago. I want to talk about what we saw from the president with Prime Minister Netanyahu.
3:24Speaking for a pretty lengthy amount of time after their meeting, what stood out to you? A number of things. One was just how much praise both leaders were heaping on the other. I mean, for example, Netanyahu said that he was awarding Trump the Israeli prize. That's something that has never been given to an American before another prize, of course. So the president said he was honored to have accepted. And you heard President Trump say the same repeatedly about Netanyahu, which I should note was music to his ears, given that Netanyahu is looking at elections in the next year in 2026. And having that support from Trump is so crucial.
3:59But really, what today was supposed to be about this meeting was really about trying to get Israel to agree to move to next steps for phase two. And what the president said was actually putting the onus on Hamas and saying that they need to disarm in a very short time frame. or face potentially what he called very bad problems. Listen. We talked about Hamas and we talked about disarmament. And they're going to be given a very short period of time to disarm. And we'll see how that works out. Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner will be in charge of that from our side. But if they don't disarm, as they agreed to do, they agreed to it, then they'll be held to pay for them.
4:46And we don't want that. He went on to say later that some of the other, you know, 59 or so countries that had backed this peace plan between Israel and Gaza and Hamas specifically, they would be the ones to potentially go in and, he said, wipe them out if Hamas did not disarm. Now, I will say another thing we heard from the president was that essentially he believes Israel is living up 100 percent was the term he used to their commitments in this deal. And that is different, Phil, than what I'm hearing in some of the conversations with other Trump administration officials, which there has been a lot of concern and some skepticism that potentially Netanyahu is slow walking this process for phase two to kind of, you know, he was never fully invested in a long term peace deal.
5:28So it was fascinating to see this. But they're clearly committed to trying to get to phase two. If Netanyahu is there, we'll still have to see how it all works out. It was striking that there was no hedge at all about something that, to your point, administration officials have raised some concerns about. I also want to ask about the before meeting with Netanyahu, he had the second of the bracketing phone calls with President Putin in between, of course, the meeting with President Zelensky. Where does that stand right now? Yeah, I mean, look, I think Zelensky, he said this before the meeting yesterday at Mar-a-Lago, when he said it after, that he believes that they are 90 percent agreed on the terms laid out in this 20 point peace plan and that it's the 10 percent that is really going to be the thorniest to solve.
6:07We know that includes security guarantees. He said that the U.S. and the president seems to be on board with a 15 year security guarantee for Ukraine. Of course, we'll have to see what that actually looks like once they hash out these details. But then there's also the question of land concessions and removing troops from the Donbass region. That's something that we've heard Zelensky repeatedly say he does not believe Putin is actually committed to. And that, of course, they want to see Russia wants to see them remove troops from the Donbass region. You also have this idea, you know, talks over this Ukrainian nuclear plant and which Russia has been continuing to hit.
6:43But what's interesting is just to hear how the president has been talking about Putin, because it's really been back and forth on where his frustration lays. Is it more with the Russians or is it more with Zelensky and the Ukrainians? And to hear what President Trump said about Putin being the one to tell him about this attack, this alleged Ukrainian attack on one of Putin's residences, something I should say the Ukrainians and Zelensky specifically deny, saying that he heard it first from Putin, that was pretty remarkable to hear. Yes, it was notable, to say the least. It's been a busy day. Thank you, Atlanta Trink, for your great reporting throughout.
7:13Really appreciate it. Well, let's discuss more now with Democratic Congresswoman Madeline Dean of Pennsylvania. as she sits on the Foreign Affairs Committee. Congresswoman, just to start off, based on what we know so far about today's meeting between the Israeli Prime Minister and President Trump, what's your level of optimism that the second phase of the ceasefire deal could come into effect sometime soon? Well, Phil, good to be with you. I wanna say that I'm pleased that the president met with Prime Minister Netanyahu today and yesterday with the president of Ukraine, Mr. Zelensky. This is important work to be done.
7:47So I'm glad that the White House and the administration is focused on these things. My optimism in terms of Mr. Netanyahu and moving into phase two, you should know that I, along with about 90 other members of Congress, late October, early November, wrote a letter to the president urging him to stay focused on the 20-point peace plan for Gaza, for Israel, and for the whole region. And in that letter, we did say, number one, Hamas must disarm and return the hostages. As you know, and as was reported, the one remaining hostage, the family of that hostage, is in Mar-a-Lago tonight. I'm very glad about that.
8:28I hope that his remains, or he, if he is still living, will be returned. But what I am gravely concerned about is how Mr. Trump doesn't seem to stay focused long enough on what is going on. The second point of our letter was to make sure that he holds Mr. Netanyahu and the Israeli coalition to the returning of all of the humanitarian aid that is necessary. And, of course, the rebuilding of Gaza. Those things are not happening in the speed and with the required elements that need to take place. So I'm worried about it. I think we all see Mr. Trump through a lens now that we've gotten used to. We've gotten used to his lies and misstatements saying that Biden got no hostages home, for example.
9:19We've seen that Mr. Trump needs so much for flattery. And of course, Mr. Netanyahu arrived today with yet another prize like FIFA. And then what is very worrisome to me is Mr. Trump's misunderstanding of who is, what international law really requires. So those things are worrisome to me, but I'm very pleased that the president has met with both of these leaders who are in grave conflicts. Yeah, certainly credit for staying on these very, very critical issues late in the year I know this has been a huge focus of the administration in both of these conflicts throughout the course of the year. I think the question, which I think you're alluding to, is the ability to actually follow through to whatever the outcome is expected to be or whatever the aspired outcome would be.
10:06And that includes on the Russia and Ukraine war. Critics arguing that the president has really kind of tried to browbeat Ukraine, President Zelensky, into a peace deal that involves huge concessions, even though it's obviously the victim of an unprovoked invasion. The war has been going on for nearly four years now. Do you think Ukraine should be compromising when it comes to land, issues like that at this point? Again, I'm just pleased that they are talking. It is critically important that they are talking. As a member of foreign affairs, I had the great honor of traveling to Kiev and meeting with the president there during this war.
10:45I want nothing more than for peace in Ukraine. Do you know, does the world know that more civilians have died in 2025 in Ukraine than in the years previous? As you said, February 24th will mark four years. And worrisome to me is that, well, these two phone calls, the sandwich phone calls of before and after meeting with President Zelensky at Mar-a-Lago, speaking to Mr. Putin. Mr. Trump doesn't seem to focus on who's the aggressor here. Again, international law demands that the aggressor be held to account, that the truth be told for all of history, and that Russia pay for its crimes, including the returning of the children.
11:29So I'm gravely concerned about that. But I'm very, I think Mr. Zelensky is quite wise, and we've seen it. And I'm pleased that the president praised his bravery and the bravery of his country. I got to see it up close and personal when I visited there. Congresswoman Madeline Dean, really appreciate your time. Thanks so much. Thank you, Phil. Well, up ahead, new details about British boxing champion Anthony Joshua and the crash that injured him and killed two people in his SUV. Plus, an Epstein survivor will be here. What she makes of all the revelations coming from the Justice Department as more Epstein files are released.
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13:33Another category is Freedom of Information Act, which contains documents released over the years through requests for public records. A third category links to House oversight disclosures. And a fourth and key category is DOJ disclosures, which contains most of the new material. Let's bring in CNN Crime and Justice correspondent Caitlin Polantz, who has been following all of this. There's been a lot of people distracted with the holidays. Catch people up here on everything you've been combing through and what you've really found. Yeah, well, we found some new things, but there hasn't been a huge amount that is revelatory about Jeffrey Epstein and the crimes he and Ghislaine Maxwell committed.
14:11She is in jail. She had been taken to trial. He is dead. What we are seeing in the new portion of records, which is only a part of what is up on the Justice Department's website, and one big question here is how much more of there is out there that the Justice Department will still release. We think that that is going to be quite a lot. But the one thing that we've learned so far is more about the depth of the relationships that Jeffrey Epstein was having with powerful figures. We see more of the moment when prosecutors saw Donald Trump's name on flight logs with Jeffrey Epstein. Now, Trump has never been accused of wrongdoing or a crime here, but you see that play out and the prosecutors realize that and flag it essentially to other people in the administration in 2020 when they got those records.
15:01We also see many more photos of Bill Clinton than we saw before. And then there's another prong of this that's new. It's the investigative record. We don't have the full extent of the investigative record yet. That is something we know is out there. prosecutor memos, a prepared indictment from almost 20 years ago that has never seen the light of day. We're waiting to see if the Justice Department is going to put those sorts of things out. But we do see the investigative steps of what the Justice Department and the FBI had been doing for many years. We're seeing pieces of that come together now, including like when they discover those flight logs.
15:39And you say pieces, and whether intentional or not, it's pieces in part because there are redactions. There are decisions made about what can be released, what will be incomplete because of, I guess, decisions the Justice Department has made about the documents that they're releasing. Explain to people what's actually happening here. There is a lot that is not out there yet, and we don't know yet if that is the Justice Department's decision-making or if we just haven't gotten to it yet, and it is to come. Things like memos in the prosecutorial record, an indictment that was the draft. But what the Justice Department has faced here is a hole that they did not seem to fully grasp how large that hole was and how long it would take for them to dig out of.
16:24I describe it as a hole because there is so much material here and the Justice Department doesn't seem to understand how much they need to get through or how long it will take them. They say it could be many more weeks, that they're making extensive redactions, they're clearly not meeting the congressional deadline, and they have a million more documents to go through at least. There are moments when it seems like instead of digging out, they're digging further down. We'll have to see how this plays out going forward. You'll be on top of all of it. Kayla Poulos, thanks so much. Appreciate it. I want to bring in Epstein survivor, Danielle Bensky, to give her perspective.
16:56Danielle, first, I think we talk a lot about kind of the politics of things, about what's coming out when and how the process is going. Just to start off with, How are you doing as this all unfolds? Yeah, thank you for asking. I think there's just growing frustration, I think, for survivors because the reductions really don't make a ton of sense. I came across something last night that I was looking at that had my name and my cell phone number. And while it didn't have my last name, it still was completely unredacted in this file. And then in the very same file, there was a memo that had said, I have a female for him.
17:34We don't know who him is, of course. but that name had been redacted. So the redactions don't seem to make a ton of sense. And we just as survivors really wanted our stories and our lives to be handled with care. It was what we expected from our DOJ. And it should be the bare minimum of what you expect. Earlier today, an attorney for Epstein survivors, Jennifer Freeman, said the Justice Department gets an F on its release of the Epstein files so far. Take a listen. They say there may be 11 ,000 documents they've produced so far, but then they just found another million documents. So does that mean they've produced about 1 % of the documents that they have?
18:15They were supposed to produce all the documents on December 19th. And then they get another F, if not worse, on their handling of the survivors, which has really just been so frustrating and disappointing. How would you characterize the way the Justice Department has handled this so far? I think it's been handled so poorly. I think that they really needed to consult survivors. I still believe, and I think many of us survivors believe, that we need a third party to step in here. I think the Office of the Inspector General should definitely take a look at what's happening here, because it seems like I'm not sure if it's intentionally careless or if it's ignorance or if they just ran out of time.
18:58But there needs to be some oversight here. Otherwise, I think we're going to keep seeing the same. And, you know, we passed a law. The law should be abided by. There's no room for the slow rollout that is happening here. And there's no answer for why these files, why now? You, I think, alluded to something that I've been really surprised to hear from other survivors or their attorneys in the last couple of weeks, which is the lack of contact, the lack of communication with the Justice Department. Have you spoken to anybody at the Justice Department? Have you heard from them in any way, shape or form?
19:32No, not at the moment. Did you expect kind of going into this that that would be a baseline? Yeah, I think that we were hoping to work pretty closely with them because I think survivors hold the keys to a lot of this. We all know our stories and we all know what happened to us. So I think we were really hoping to really at least have a dialogue so that we could, you know, be a part of all of this. Again, it just seems like would be the bare minimum. Before I let you go, you know, obviously there's a lot more to come. The Justice Department has made that very clear. What are you looking for in kind of the documents that haven't been released yet that you hope will be able to convey your story or the story of survivors that have wanted to have out now for years?
20:14I think the full story, when you step out and zoom out, it's all about power versus vulnerability. And I think it's really important that we take a look at that because I think that that's where our system continues to fail us. It's not necessarily about like my individual story or somebody else's individual story. It's about how power has taken advantage of vulnerability time and time again. And it's it's what is at the heart of all exploitation. And so we just we need to call it out. I do think that it was really important that the files did come out and are out. I think, you know, the answer wasn't, oh, we should have never done this.
20:51I think it just needed to be handled with so much more care. Danielle Bensky, I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Well, this hour, we are tracking crippling winter weather that is taking its toll on some major U.S. cities right now. We'll show you some of the impact next.
21:17You hear that? It's wild, right? Keep in mind, someone captured this video inside a house, not outside. This is Newberry, Michigan, where presumably they have good insulation on the state's upper peninsula. Wind gusts there topped 70 miles per hour. Down in Detroit, another scary scene. Blinding snow is to blame for several car crashes along I-75. In city after city, the winter weather is creating havoc. Let's go straight to CNN meteorologist Chris Warren. Chris, powerful wind has been the big weather talker for a few days now. Yeah, and Phil, when you factor in the wind with the snow, these are the scenes like you were showing here in Detroit around lunchtime.
21:56These are the scenes that we can end up with. Now, the snowfall at the time of when a couple dozen vehicles were involved with this probably was worse than this. So we often see the video after the fact. And these snow squalls, which we do have and are watching right now, can create blinding conditions in a matter of minutes. And last several minutes, maybe even an hour or more. And that's what we're seeing right now with reduced visibilities down to around a half a mile, likely a lot less than that where these snow squall warnings are right now. This is the kind of deal is where you're driving, just cloudy skies, looks fine.
22:30All of a sudden, bang, you smack right into essentially a curtain of snow. Remember, snowflakes are solid. They're pieces of ice. So the visibility with a lot of snow falling out of the sky goes down big time. Meanwhile, some of the latest wind gusts here up around 50 miles an hour. Buffalo had a wind gust earlier of 79 miles an hour, the strongest wind gust at the airport in Buffalo in 45 years. It does remain cold. It does remain snowy, especially coming off the lakes with that winter storm. Warnings posted in Michigan, New York, with possibly about a foot, even a foot and a half still to come in the next couple of days.
23:07And with the wind also seeing the power outages mount up, we've seen some freezing rain. So coating of ice on some of the trees in New England with a little bit of wind or even a lot of wind. Some of those branches could come down and we could see even more power outages, more wind, making things not just difficult at the airports and driving, but it's going to make things feel feel much, much colder in some areas. About a 50 degree temperature change in just 24 hours, cooling down big time. Yeah, I mean, there was a hell of a football game last night in Buffalo. Definitely didn't want to be sitting in that stadium at any point.
23:41The major temperature drop setting in for the East Coast, who's going to feel it for how long? Well, it's going to be around for a bit, and it's going to be an absolute shock to the system. Just looking at some of these temperatures, what it feels like, some of the windchill single digits in teens is what it feels like. Remember, yesterday, record warmth in some of these areas. It was near 80 degrees in St. Louis. And Phil, over the next few days, temperatures will struggle to get above freezing in some of the areas here in the Midwest. That makes me sad. Not your work, though, which is fantastic.
24:14Meteorologist Chris Warren, appreciate you, my friend. Thank you. Well, from a money man to a movie man, Kevin O 'Leary will be here next with the film that's getting him some Oscar buzz. Stay with us.
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25:00A combination of big money and Hollywood glamour tops today's pop lead. Among the films making the rounds in theaters this season is Marty Supreme. It stars, among others, Timothee Chalamet and Gwyneth Paltrow. Here's a look.
25:39Maybe it should. So from that you can gather, one, he plays table tennis, and two, they're having an affair. What you didn't see is her husband, who's played by my next guest, Kevin O 'Leary, as in the powerhouse investor, Shark Tank's own Kevin O 'Leary. Kevin O 'Leary joins me now. And Kevin, I've got to say, reading about the movie, but reading about your role in the movie specifically, I think Hollywood Reporter in a profile of you said, undeniably impressive performance. How did you get here? You know, it's one of those serendipitous things in life. I got a phone call from Josh Safdie and Ronnie Bronstein, who co-wrote Uncut Gems, a film I loved with Adam Sandler.
26:24And they said, listen, there's this guy named Milton Rockwell. He's the richest man in America, royalty guy. He kind of reminds us as we're writing him of that guy on Shark Tank, you. And we're looking for a real a-hole and you're it. And you got to fly to New York tomorrow to read this because you're the last character we're casting. I said, boys, I'm sitting up at my lake house in peace in the middle of July and I'm not going anywhere. I'll send a plane for you. You get on the plane. You come here. If you're serious, we can watch the ducks float by and read the script, which is exactly what they did.
26:56And, you know, the more I read it, the more I got into it. And they were also pretty smart. They let me accommodate my own comments about Milton, what he would have said in 52, who he was in 52, and why he would have said that, and they adjusted the script. So I really felt I owned that character by the time we shot it. They're remarkable. I mean, it was just such a crazy outcome. And once I got in the groove with Timmy and with Gwyneth, we were having a blast. It was 1952. It was incredible. I want to give people a little bit more flavor of what the movie's like and how you are in it. Just watch this.
27:37I'm not trying to control you, Marty. It's unacceptable! It's unacceptable! But I don't think you understand the stakes. You have no power here.
27:53I want to get into what you were just talking about, kind of the process that ended up evolving between you and the other cast members. I've seen a ton of press. Timothy Chalamet has done a ton of press. He's done, I think, an excellent job marketing the movie you all have. But how you guys were able to work off one another throughout the course of the actual filming of this? Well, I'm going to give you a little trade secret about how Josh Safdie works with Ronnie Bronstein, because I lived it. And, you know, I've never done scripted before. First of all, the way Chalamet works is you're sitting there waiting.
28:27And Darius, the guy that was the cinematographer, he is an insane person who wants perfection. So you're waiting for frigging hours while he's setting up the light. These guys shot at old school with an Aeroflex 35mm camera, Panavision lenses. It takes forever to set that up. So we're sitting across from each other, just talking about whatever. And then it's time to shoot. And Shalami gets up out of his seat, walks 20 feet, and boom, he comes back, Marty Mauser. I mean, the guy is electricity is flying off him. He is the character. And there's that little guy in front of me, that arrogant little guy.
29:01And he is that guy. And I'm having no trouble riffing into him in real life. So we're just going at it. And there were many takes when after we were finished going at each other, there was 10, 15 seconds of silence as people said, whoa, you guys maybe took it too far. But no, that's not how it works. You zone in there and it happens. And the way those two guys work, Ronstein and Safdie, Ronnie, the writer, co-writer, sitting in a production booth somewhere off the set. You don't see him. But he's in Safdie's ear and they're talking to each other, waiting for the right take. So you may have to do it 50 times and it's not a democracy.
29:39I've said this many times. I would say to, you know, Josh, I think we got it. We want to move on. He said, what are you talking about? We're not moving anywhere till I say so. And I'm not used to being told what to do. That was a little bit of a freak. the whole idea was until they get it. And then once in a while we'd make a mistake. And then, then he'd say, wait a second, there's an idea there. Let's riff off it. Let's, let's, let's try something completely different. And when I saw the final film, the improv stuff made it in there too. So they, they're magical the way those guys work. They make, they, they pull stuff out of you that you didn't know you had in you.
30:13And I really, really, you know, when I finally saw it before it was color corrected, it blew me away. I mean, this film is an extraordinary emotional experience. You've got to see it in a theater and have somebody beside you you know, because it's going to rip your heart out inside out during that journey. And tell me if you have a dry eye when it's over. It's just extraordinary. Can I just real quick before I let you go, the idea of having to spank with a paddle the most, I think, now currently most famous person and the backside of the most famous person in all of Hollywood, was that daunting?
30:53We had a stunt ass. I told Timmy, I don't have to do this to you. but he wanted to immortalize his ass. He wanted to do something that no one had ever done before, put his own ass on screen, immortalize it, and I hit him so hard. I mean, I don't know how he took it because we didn't use a fake paddle. We broke the fake paddle on the first hit. And the second one, if you see the outtakes, there's an imprint on his rear end of the paddle itself. It was unbelievable what he took, but what an amazing scene. he's immortalized and that's his ass it's i mean i tell you what there are a million reasons to go see this movie now there's a million and one kevin o 'leary a huge congratulations on the film for all the amazing reviews you and the entire cast are getting really appreciate your time sir take care thank you wait what there's just two days left in 2025 yeah seriously still thinking about what we're just talking about some of the biggest political stories bound to spill over into 2026.
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32:22With about two days and six hours left in 2025, let's talk about some of the biggest headlines that could shape politics in 2026. My panel is here now. And guys, look, there was a lot that happened this year. We're going into a midterm year going forward. But Yumi, I want to start with you. New York City mayor was probably the biggest political story of 2025. What's your expectations, what's the Democratic Party's expectations for Zoran Mamdani once he takes office? Well, the expectation is that he'll do well as the mayor of New York City. I mean, the best part about having watched his campaign to now transition to governance is that he's been able to come middle of the road with some things.
33:03We've watched him work really well with Governor Kathy Hochul, who's going to be running her own race at that same time and is going to be watching him closely because a lot of how well he does will predicate on how well she can do and what things she can uplift that he's doing well in the city. And so it's to see if a lot of the policies that he's been pushing forward actually do take hold and float in New York City, but also to remind people that politics is local. Just because he's pushed something in New York City doesn't mean he can do the same in my hometown of Marietta, Georgia. Do you think that that's, he's become such a national figure, which I don't necessarily think was his goal when he came out, but he became such a national figure throughout the course of the year, that it's possible that people will actually understand, no, this isn't a New York City thing.
33:42This isn't a national politics thing. You know, You know, I think Pemdani has been interesting because I actually don't know that was his goal to become a national figure. I think he just wanted to topple the establishment, which he was very successful at doing. And now comes the hard work of legislating, promising people that you will make good on those very same promises. How does that happen? I don't quite know because a lot of it felt like bluster. I'm not sure if that's the exact word. I think there's inexperience and then there's also a sense of fear in him. That's what I see in recent weeks, ever since he, you know, made this great disruption.
34:16I just see him calming down at times. And then I see him kind of getting faster. And that's typical of politicians that break the mold. I've worked with dozens of them that don't really quite know how they're going to meet the moment. And the first month is going to be so pivotal because he's going to have to counteract really the narrative that Republicans are going to throw every day of the week. Right. Look at New York. It's a terrible place. And now you've got this immigrant who isn't even American out here leading you all. When everybody knows this was just really an anti-establishment vote is how he got there.
34:46Yeah, it'll be fascinating to watch. I want to get both your takes on something that was very troubling throughout the course of the year, which is the rise of political violence. You had several high profile examples. You had the two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota were shot and killed. You had the assassination of Charlie Kirk. You had the Josh Shapiro, the arson at his governor's mansion. and his family survived that arson attacks. Here's what Utah Governor Cox told CNN about President Trump's leadership in all of this. Take a listen. I have to say during the Charlie Kirk shooting, in the conversations we had, he talked to me about nonviolence and trying to be a voice for that.
35:27I understand he's not interested in uniting the country. And he would tell you that, I think, if you were sitting here with us tonight. But I would also say that it's not going to be a president who fixes this. It's not going to be two governors who fix this. It really has to be all of us. Do you agree with the assessment that the president can't fix this? He couldn't make it better if he wanted to. Why should the president try to fix it? It's already out there. When you see the assassinations like we have in real time coming through our phones. There's no turning back time. I mean, Trump has taken us to a place where political violence is normalized.
36:05It's normal to say your enemies were X, Y, and Z to even to be distasteful about them in death, to insult them in death. That is Trump. But let's put Trump aside for a moment. A Utah leader like Spencer Cox, who I've watched for many years, is the kind of political leader we need for the moment. And I can say that from the center-right, we've celebrated Cox for a long time. We know that his pragmatism, we know that the way in which he carries himself in public office, which by the way, he's done throughout the ranks, that is what we need as a party to turn back the effect of Trump. I think it's wrong of us to continue to fixate on Trump's every move, every day.
36:47We know he's not the person we expect a leader to be. And therefore, let's divert our attention. Let's look back at the states and look at what kind of new leaders are coming about. In the Republican Party, we see a lot of young, fresh faces. These faces, in Gen Z especially, are moving forward in life, having seen Charlie Kirk killed in cold blood in front of them, a bullet in that man's body. That is going to forever change that generation of young conservatives. What do you think from the Democratic side? Well, from the Democratic side, I think that we have to look at how a lot of young people are gaining their news.
37:19And a lot of that is happening on YouTube and in these platforms. I mean, we're looking at Republicans platforming people like Nick Fuentes. But Nick Fuentes is speaking to a group of disgruntled young people that are coming up in America that doesn't have an economy that supports them. And so I think that Democrats are really going to have to refocus on how they message to young people and how we move past this kind of political violence and this increased inflamed rhetoric. Yeah, I think that in particular is a conversation we could have for hours. Luckily, I'm going to have you guys back next hour so we can continue this conversation.
37:47Thank you guys very much. More to talk about ahead. Also ahead, the crash today that injured boxing champion Anthony Joshua and killed two others in his SUV. That's next.
38:03In our sports lead, new video shows the aftermath of the crash that injured boxing champion Anthony Joshua and killed two others in Nigeria today. Officials say the driver of Joshua's Lexus SUV was speeding and hit a parked truck. The driver and a third occupant died. The crash happened on an expressway notorious for deadly crashes. Now, just 10 days ago, Joshua had a knockout win in Miami against YouTuber turned boxer Jake Paul. Well, in our national lead, police say a second pilot has died after yesterday's mid-flight collision between two helicopters in New Jersey. The collision happened shortly after the two helicopters took off from Hamilton Municipal Airport southeast of Philadelphia.
38:44CNN's Rafael Romo is tracking this one. Rafael, what do we know about the pilots killed? Phil, Hamilton police have released the identities of the two pilots who died in the crash while providing an update about the tragic incident. According to Hamilton police chief Kevin Frile, 71-year-old Michael Greenberg was pronounced dead at the scene of the crash. 65-year-old Kenneth Kirsch, the second pilot who died, was pronounced dead at the hospital. Both victims were from New Jersey. Chief Frile described the crash as a mid-air collision between an Enstrom helicopter Model 280C and another Enstrom helicopter Model F-28A, adding that both aircraft had just departed from the Hamilton Municipal Airport when they collided approximately at 1125 Eastern Time on Sunday morning.
39:31Chief Frile also said that the helicopters crash-landed in a field in a tree line. One helicopter was engulfed in flames, he said, and the fire was later extinguished by the Hamilton Volunteer Fire Department. According to police, statements from witnesses had the two helicopters flying close together just before the crash. The crash site was approximately a mile and a half from the airport in a farm field. CNN has obtained a video showing the moment one of the helicopters went down, spinning out of control. A restaurant owner at the Hamilton Municipal Airport says he had just seen both pilots at his establishment prior to the crash.
40:11They were just at our cafe having breakfast. They're regulars. They come in every week or every other week. I don't know them personally. Just that they seem to come in all the time together. They fly in together and they seem to be close. You know, they sit together and they seem to be good friends or relatives. The midair collision happened in Hamilton, located in Atlantic County, which is about 35 miles southeast of Philadelphia, and sits near the New Jersey Pine Barrens, a vast area forested wilderness. Both the Federal Aviation Administration and the National Transportation Safety Board will investigate the accident, but the NTSB will be in charge.
40:50Phil, now back to you.
40:55Welcome to The Lead. I'm Phil Mattingly. In for Jake Tapper. This hour, global diplomacy on the menu at Mar-a-Lago today as President Trump meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about the conflict in Gaza. This sit-down coming just hours after a Trump call with Russia's Vladimir Putin and one day after a meeting with Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky. But did these conversations get the U.S. any closer to a peace deal in any of these conflicts? Plus, more than 20 million Americans under winter weather alerts tonight as a powerful storm sweeps across the country. Blizzard conditions, dangerous winds, even tornadoes.
41:30We're going live to the CNN Weather Center for an updated forecast. And wake up and smell the tariffs. The owner of a coffee accessory company says his business is getting roasted by higher import costs. So what's brewing as we head into the new year? What about layoffs or higher costs for customers? That's ahead in our small business series.
41:55The lead tonight, President Trump's Mar-a-Lago at the center of global diplomacy. This morning, President Trump spoke by phone with Russian President Vladimir Putin just one day after holding high-stakes talks with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. It's part of his push to end Russia's war he once said he could fix in a day. And today, Trump hosted Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, hoping to initiate the second phase of a deal that stopped fighting between Israel and Hamas in October. CNN's Matthew Chance is in Jerusalem, but we start things off with CNN chief White House correspondent, Caitlin Collins.
42:27Caitlin, there's a lot to unpack over the course of the last 48 hours, but what's really stood out to you? Yeah, it's been a ton of diplomacy happening down in Palm Beach while the president is there for the holiday, Phil. But really what stood out to me from this meeting today with the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was just how much praise the two leaders lavished on one another. I mean, there weren't major headlines coming out of this summit that they held at Mar-a-Lago, which we've known about for the last six weeks or so. But just seeing the two leaders, including Prime Minister Netanyahu, giving President Trump the Israel Prize, their country's top award that typically does not go to non-Israelis.
43:03in part of this effort that we've seen where world leaders have come and lavished praise on President Trump and often referenced the fact that he did not get the Nobel Peace Prize, which he so publicly was seeking. And they have in turn taken this kind of step, as Netanyahu did today, were giving him these prizes in order to kind of bolster their relationship. And in turn, you saw President Trump also heaping praise on Netanyahu, calling him a wartime president, again, saying that he thinks he should get a pardon. And that was really what stood out to me in terms of seeing these two leaders stand side by side.
43:37As the president was saying, they have very little differences, Phil, when it comes to what they need to do going forward in terms of Gaza disarming Hamas and what that looks like. And the other thing the president was asked about today ties into his meeting yesterday with President Zelensky. They met for several hours in Mar-a-Lago. And then today, President Trump had a phone call with the Russian leader. And during that call, he talked about something that Ukraine has emphatically denied, which is that they were targeting one of Putin's residences, something he says the Russian leader told him himself.
44:09It's another thing to attack his house. It's not the right time to do any of that and can't do it. And I learned about it from President Putin today. I was very angry about it. Now, when you listen to that comment, Phil, President Trump seemed to be taking Putin at his word after the Russians said that he was targeting this residence that he was not at. Ukraine says that's not true, that it's a fabrication. They're basically trying to throw off the talks that have been happening between the United States and Ukraine. And so there are real questions about what that meeting yesterday is going to yield and what this looks like when the president does return to Washington next week after meeting with these two world leaders while he's at Mar-a-Lago.
44:48Yeah, still significant questions outstanding. Matthew, I want to ask you about one of the ones that I've had throughout the course of the day. There seems to be some confusion around a potential pardon for Prime Minister Netanyahu. What's actually going on here? yeah well i mean um president trump was asked about about that pardon and he said that he'd spoken to isaac herzog who's the israeli president and and had been told by the israeli president that the pardon was on its way it was coming um but within minutes of that remark being made by president trump isaac herzog president herzog issued a statement through his office here in Jerusalem basically saying that there's been no conversation with President Trump, that a few weeks ago a representative of President Trump had a conversation with him about the status of the pardon and he was simply informed that a decision would be made according to the established procedures.
45:44And so basically Herzog, you know, kind of rejecting that idea, that suggestion by President Trump that a conversation had been had and that some sort of assurance had been acquired that Netanyahu would be getting a pardon from the various corruption charges cases that he's involved in. But it was just one of a few sort of incorrect statements made by President Trump in that brief press conference where he was standing shoulder to shoulder with Benjamin Netanyahu. He also said that, you know, Biden had not succeeded in releasing any hostages from Gaza and it was just him. In fact, more than 100 hostages being held in Gaza were released during the last months of the presidency of Joe Biden.
46:29He also said that he was the only U.S. president to have addressed the Israeli parliament. He said he canness it. In fact, he was the fourth U.S. president to do that. So, you know, I think it's quite usual at the moment these days to see the U.S. president make these comments, some of which, many of which do not hold up to scrutiny, Phil. Yeah. Caitlin Collins, Matthew Chance, two of the best in the business. Appreciate you guys. Thank you very much. And of course, don't miss Caitlin on her show, The Source, with Caitlin Collins tonight. She'll be joined by Democratic Senator Chris Coons tonight, 9 Eastern, on CNN.
47:02And I want to bring in CNN political and national security analyst David Sanger. Sanger, you are the one who explains all the things to me over the course of the last decade plus in our interactions. We're going to do that on live TV right now. Let me start with the... Let's see if it works, Phil. I'm not sure. You have never failed me, my friend. I'll start with the allegation from President Putin that President Trump allegedly heard about directly from President Putin in the phone call, that his home had been targeted by a drone. Trump said he was, quote, very angry about it, then admitted it's possible that the allegation is false.
47:39Do we have any sense of what U.S. intelligence has on this allegation, if they presented anything to President Trump? Not yet, but based on the president's own reaction, Phil, it sounds like if the first he was hearing of it was from President Putin, he hadn't been alerted by his own intelligence agencies. And it would strike me that while Putin has several residences, each one of them is a pretty known location. And I suspect this would have lit up the boards pretty brightly for those American intelligence agencies that are watching by satellite and other means. And they usually see significant drone attacks.
48:24That doesn't mean it didn't happen. And I'm sure they're all searching right now for the evidence. But it's interesting that the president's first reaction was to say that he was angry rather than to say to President Putin, gee, that's a really significant allegation. I'll look into it. And if we find out that it's true, I'll deal with the Ukrainians on it. Yeah. And we should note the Ukrainians have denied that it took place. We're still, I think all of us right now are trying to figure out more about what actually took place there. David, I want to ask you, obviously, Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Hamas, two massive issues on the president's platform policy-wise.
49:03But there's also Venezuela, where the president said he was asked about an operation that he says took out a facility in Venezuela last week. Take a listen. There was a major explosion in the dock area where they load the boats up with drugs. They load the boats up with drugs, so we hit all the boats and now we hit the area. Was the facility taken out by the U.S. military or was it another entity like the CIA? Well, I don't want to say that. I know exactly who it was, but I don't want to say who it was. What do you make of all this? Well, first, he hasn't been shy in the past about noting American attacks on the small boats, the skiffs that are running out of Venezuela that the administration alleges are carrying drugs.
49:52So the fact that they didn't release video of this one, when clearly they must have some if it happens, would suggest that it was probably an intelligence operation or sabotage. But we don't know that yet. Second, it'd be interesting to see what kind of facility this was. You know, the Venezuelans don't produce cocaine, but they traffic in it for sure. And so, you know, he's closing down. it sounds like the facilities where the drugs are staged. And this may be the land strikes that he has promised now for months against Venezuela and part of the infrastructure. Also, interesting question, were there civilians there?
50:38Was anybody killed? We don't know. That's a significant issue because it raises the same issue that is raised by the attacks on the boats themselves, which is, are these legal if they are essentially some re-executions of people working in the drug trade? Yeah, there's still, there's so few details from an administration that tends to give a lot of detail about these types of actions. We'll have to continue to wait and see. One quick one before I let you go. The president weighing in on Iran's missile capability, potential pursuit of nuclear activity. I'm trying to, is your read of it that the president's threats related to striking Iran again, was related to their ballistic missile program and any gains they made there, or specific to any gains in the nuclear program?
51:27So I read his comments, Phil, and I agree it's not entirely clear, that the Israelis would be free to go back and re-attack the missile program if, in fact, the Iranians are reconstituting their missiles. And there is some intelligence to suggest that they are, again, trying to produce missiles because their inventories were were wiped during the days of attacks back in June. But he didn't say the U.S. would participate in that. He did say that if they reconstitute their nuclear program, he would come back and do what the Israelis call mowing the lawn, that is reattack. So far, the evidence that we have seen based on commercial satellites, other analysis, suggests that the Iranians have not yet gone in and gotten that fuel that is buried deep underground.
52:25It struck me, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the green light to Israel related to a ballistic missile capability or the pursuit of restocking is not a small thing. That's right. And it's something that we should all be paying attention to with all the news that was going on today. See why you got to come back to the White House beat, Phil? We miss you. Likewise, my friend David Sanger. It's always a pleasure. Thanks so much. Great to see you. Well, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem posting this video today, announcing federal investigators are on the ground in Minnesota, quote, conducting a massive investigation into suspected fraud.
53:02What exactly they're looking for? That's next. And ahead of the famous ball drop on New Year's Eve, organizers tested out the confetti in Times Square today. But will the winter storm bearing down right now clear out in time for the celebrations?
53:21In our national league, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security are deepening their investigations into alleged fraud involving federal funds in Minnesota. Earlier today, DHS posted several videos on social media of investigators in Minneapolis inspecting what they say are suspected fraud sites, which include daycare centers. CNN law enforcement correspondent Whitney Wild is tracking this development for us. And Whitney, what prompted the Trump administration to escalate these investigations? Well, it does seem to be in response to this viral video. Right now, the FBI is saying it is surging resources into Minnesota.
53:55This is just the latest chapter of this sprawling fraud investigation that began in 2022 and has led to more than 75 arrests. Many people are among the Somali community in Minnesota. The FBI Director Kash Patel, again, tweeting today, and it really seemed to be a reaction to this viral video by a YouTube personality named Nick Shirley, which now has more than 115 million views on X, and that number continues to grow. In the video, Shirley says that he's uncovering more fraudulent businesses in the Somali community. That 42-minute video was retweeted by Vice President J.D. Vance and Elon Musk. Director Patel said the FBI has been all over these cases, posting this on X.
54:38Even before the public conversation escalated online, the FBI had surged personnel and investigative resources to Minnesota to dismantle large-scale fraud schemes, exploiting federal programs. In touting the arrests, Patel said that the FBI believes this is just the tip of a very large iceberg. In several posts Monday, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem tweeted that HSI agents are on the ground conducting a massive investigation into these suspected fraud sites, saying this. DHS is on the ground in Minneapolis going door to door at suspected fraud sites, saying that the American people deserve answers on how their taxpayer money is being used and arrests when abuse is found.
55:24These fraud cases, Phil, have become a major political flashpoint for Republicans, and this has been going on for years. A state audit earlier this year, again, this was just one chapter in this story, a state audit earlier this year found that funds meant for frontline workers in Minneapolis were being scammed away, and Republicans and the administration have begun to target Somali migrants in that state. Today, in a statement to CNN, Minnesota Governor Tim Wall's press office said the governor has worked for years to crack down on fraud and asked the state legislature for more authority to take aggressive action.
55:57He has strengthened oversight, including launching investigations into these specific facilities, one of which was already closed. He has hired an outside law firm to audit payments to high-risk programs. He's also shut down the Housing Stabilization Services program entirely and announced a new statewide program integrity director and supported criminal prosecutions. Phil, this is the latest chapter. We have no indication this story is anywhere close to over. Attorney General Pam Bondi also tweeting that she basically saying that this YouTuber, Nick Shirley, you know, showed Americans how sprawling these cases are and that her office is continuing to work on them to try to root out as much fraud as they possibly can, Phil.
56:40Yeah, certainly seems like a lot more to come. Whitney Wild, great reporting. Thanks so much. Well, our Small Business Series is back tonight with a look at how tariffs are impacting something that most of us have every single day. Coffee. Could more price increases be on the way? That's ahead.
57:00Breaking news in our world lead. Defense Secretary Pete Hegsteth has just announced another U.S. military strike on a suspected drug boat in international waters. I want to get straight to CNN's Kevin Liptak. Kevin, what do we know about this strike? Yeah, and what U.S. Southern Command says is that this vessel was in international waters in the eastern Pacific. They say that it was transiting along a known narco-trafficking route, that there were members of designated terrorist organizations aboard, and that two male narco-terrorists were killed. Now, this is the 31st known strike on an alleged drug boat that the Trump administration has carried out, all part of this campaign to up the pressure on Nicolas Maduro.
57:44It has drawn a lot of scrutiny in Congress, both Democrats and Republicans alike asking for more information here and saying that without more information about who these people who are being blown up are, that this could all amount to an extrajudicial killing. The Pentagon has been very eager to broadcast these strikes. You see the video of the latest strike that they put out on social media. That does contrast somewhat with how unwilling they have been to talk about this facility that President Trump says was blown up in Venezuela. He sort of made an offhand comment in a radio interview last week.
58:21But beyond that, the president, very tight-lipped about all of this. I asked him earlier today over at Mar-a-Lago whether this was the U.S. military or the CAA, he wouldn't even say who carried out that strike. So notable difference in how they're carrying out all of this public relations, Phil. Yeah, no question about it. Great work all day from you, Kevin Liptak, in Mar-a-Lago with the president. Thank you so much. Well, also in our world lead, voters in Myanmar lined up to cast ballots in a staggered, controversial general election. A UN human rights expert labeled the election controlled by the country's military leaders, quote, a sham.
58:54The election is taking place despite an ongoing civil war that followed the military's 2021 coup. CNN's Ivan Watson is in Yangon, Myanmar's largest city. Ivan, just to start, why are these elections happening now? Well, I mean, the elections have been happening in a five-year cycle, so it's time right now. But, of course, the situation is so dramatically different from the last one five years ago, because shortly after that election, and when it didn't go well for the Myanmar military's political party, the generals here staged a coup. They overthrew the elected government, threw top officials in jail, and cracked down violently on the ensuing protests and plunged this country into a grinding civil war that's got about 4 million people displaced.
59:44The UN's World Food Program warning about some 12 million people facing acute hunger. So it's against that backdrop that an election is being held in three phases. We saw the first phase on Sunday, but it's only being held in parts of the country that the military still controls, because that bloody civil war is raging in other parts of the country. And it does appear to be welcomed by some patrons like China and Russia, who have sent some emissaries to meet with the Myanmar government just this week. And in fact, a Russian official kind of welcoming this election, which has been criticized by the British government and the EU as not fair and free.
1:00:27Phil. I think some of our viewers may be familiar with Aung San Suu Kyi, who's the country's most popular leader, received the Nobel Peace Prize. She's 80 years old. She's behind bars. Her sentence is 27 years. Critics say it's designed to keep her silent in local politics. What is her role now? Right. Well, she was a state counselor. It was her party that swept the elections in 2015 and 2020. And she was thrown in jail. She hasn't been seen in public since the coup. Top officials from her party also thrown in jail. and I've been outside the party offices here in Yangon. They're effectively boarded up right now.
1:01:05And so that party and many others aren't participating in the election. They've basically been dissolved. So what kind of an election is it? One voter I talked to said, hey, I'm not excited to vote in this election. We had more freedom of choice the last time. And this time, the most popular party in the last two elections wasn't allowed to participate. Its people are in jail. So we don't know where she is exactly. She's been sentenced for everything from corruption to treason to decades behind bars. And this country is really at an impasse. The economy is suffering. There is high on inflation here, people complaining about lack of electricity and water, and then that grinding war that has plunged people into hunger and forced them from their homes by the millions.
1:01:52It's just a remarkable turn from a few years ago when President Obama visited and actually met with Aung San Suu Kyi at her home to where they are now. Ivan Watson, great reporting as always, my friend. Thank you. Well, between holiday travel, buying gifts and hosting big family meals, it's been inexpensive the last few weeks for many Americans. So what should we expect to see happen to the U.S. economy in the new year? I'll ask two experts in moments.
1:02:22In our money lead, President Trump took to Truth Social over the weekend to reassure the country his, quote, tariffs are creating great wealth and there's no inflation. Three exclamation points. But polls keep indicating not every American really agrees there. Let's look ahead with a pair of economic experts, two individuals I go to when I want to understand what's exactly happening. And, Doug, let's start with you. The assertion that tariffs are creating great wealth at this point in time. Explain to people whether or not that's the case. It's not the case. You can just believe your eyes. You could make the same argument about the corporation income tax.
1:02:56It's creating great wealth because it's about the same size and a tax on some of the business, but not all of them. You wouldn't believe that. And this stems from, you know, literally the 16 and 1700s when mercantilists were on a gold standard. And when you paid for something, gold flew out of the country. And so if you stopped all those nasty imports and paying other people, you held on to your wealth. But it's not anything like what the modern economy works like. and it's not something that's happening right now. Rohit, when it comes to, you know, Americans are looking around right now and poll after poll saying, look, affordability is an issue.
1:03:29There's no question about it. This has been static over the course of a number of years now, particularly post-COVID. Do you look at kind of the landscape going forward and see areas where there will be a natural disinflation of prices? Well, here's why people are feeling panicked is because whether it's groceries or energy prices, insurance costs, and even housing, people have not really felt any meaningful relief. Even for Christmas, they felt the gifts were more expensive, the Christmas meal, the travel. We're not really sure how this is going to play out because it is not clear that if Donald Trump keeps meddling with the Fed or surprising us with more tariffs or more retaliation.
1:04:16I don't know how this is going to end. Now, there are people who are very happy. The stock market is doing great. But people who are trying to just make it paycheck to paycheck, what they are seeing is more credit card debt, more auto loan debt, and they feel like they are on a treadmill that is just getting faster. Well, we're going to do housing reform in Q1, and that's an easy fix in my experience of covering housing in the last 20 years, which I joke a little bit. but it underscores that issues like housing in particular are very complicated and have structural issues that are far beyond what policymakers can necessarily do.
1:04:51But you did mention the Fed. The president was talking about Jay Powell again today. Put aside the firing or not firing lawsuit or no lawsuit. Who is he going to pick and how big of a deal is it? I don't know who he's going to pick. You see the handy happening just like I do. We've got a couple of Kevins and a sitting member of the Board of Governors. So I don't know who he'll pick. But the reality is that regardless of who he picks, he has already damaged that chairman. Because it will be presumed by everyone that some deal had to be cut to get the job. And that undercuts the Fed as an independent agency and its conduct of monetary policy.
1:05:27And the baffling part about this, honestly, Phil, is there's an enormous amount of research that shows that independent monetary authorities produce better results. Lower inflation, lower unemployment, exactly what you'd want. So by interfering with the Fed, he's getting the wrong outcomes. He's getting higher unemployment. We've seen it go up more than a percentage point in the past year and a half. Higher inflation. We're going in the wrong direction at the moment. It's not in his interest to have that happen on his watch. He should just back off and let them do their job. It is like the one thing in economics, maybe aside from tariffs prior to this year, that there was no disagreement about.
1:06:01Right. And I guess to that point, is it possible for whoever he selects as the Fed chair to be able to get past that at some point? Or is that just baked in the idea of the influence, the lack of independence is going to be baked in no matter who he picks? Well, I think the independence has already died. J-PAL, others, they might be trying to show that they're doing this independently. We see time and time again they're already bending to the politics. The potential chair candidates are auditioning on TV on how much they can impress the president. So markets are already factoring this in. We are seeing our borrowing costs really spiral.
1:06:42And that's going to be paid for by taxpayers, higher mortgage rates and more. And I think the president, he seems really much more focused on now marble armchairs in the Kennedy Center. They look nice, though. Rather than actually people being able to afford these really high prices. It's a really good point. And one, I think his advisors sometimes see those truth posts and say, what are we doing here? Real quick, we've got a minute left. something that you're watching in 2026 in the economy that maybe isn't getting as much attention as it should be. Both of you guys. Well, I think one that is getting attention but is not getting enough is I think inflation is going to remain stubbornly high.
1:07:19And we have seen it is the most damaging political phenomenon. It affects everyone. It makes people very unpopular. And I think the president should be afraid of that. The dollar has weakened a lot this year against major currencies. That hasn't necessarily brought back all sorts of manufacturing. In fact, our trade deficit is still huge, but it has actually made imports more expensive in addition to tariffs as well. And that could continue regardless if these tariffs are overturned. Yeah, that's the Supreme Court case. Pretty huge as well. I could do this for many hours. Thank you guys for coming in.
1:07:52I really appreciate it. Well, turning to our Business Leaders series, where we speak to small business owners from coast to coast about President Trump's tariffs. Some optimistic, others not so much. With us today is Jess Nepstad, the owner of Planetary Design, a Montana-based coffee accessory company. I really appreciate your time. Just to kind of start from the top, tell us more about your business and how tariffs really change things for it this year. Thanks for having me. Well, it changed a lot in April. We weren't expecting that. We're a small company out of Montana with about 20 employees, and we import a lot of coffee accessories, as you shared.
1:08:30But everything comes in from China, and we were pretty rocked in April. And it probably took us four or five months to get our feet kind of on the ground again and figure out a game plan. But it was, you know, more than upsetting, for sure. The four to five months when you kind of got your feet, figured out your game plan, what did that entail? Well, you know, we just figured out there was so much drag here in the United States. We had to go elsewhere for growth and elsewhere for consistency. So we made a pretty hard pivot, opening a warehouse up in Canada so we could ship direct into Canada to avoid that.
1:09:08We got a warehouse open up in the Netherlands so we could service the whole UK area and everything with shorter supply chains, which is better for our business, but also avoid all the tariffs and the volatility. And then in the United States, at the end of four months, when we realized it really wasn't going away, we reduced headcount by about 10 percent, raised our prices by 21 percent. And, you know, just kind of been holding on there. Proud to say, you know, and happy to say that the American consumer had a great Q4 for us. But it was just a lot of work that we probably didn't feel like we needed to go through, but we had to.
1:09:47So reduced headcount, raised prices. When you're looking out into Q1, Q2, I mean, you've got a plan, your business, in terms of how you forecast what business looks like going forward. Is there a plausible option to bring back some of those that you were forced to let go? Is there a chance that you could lower prices or is this kind of the new norm? I hope all of those things can happen. We'd love to keep growing here in Montana, employ the great people in Montana that do great jobs. But, you know, we're going to wait and see on how the United States kind of weathers the storm. The 10 percent recent reduction in the fentanyl, I see as being able to lower prices slightly.
1:10:34But it's, you know, a lot of priceless, so it's quite a bit to move prices. It's easy to come down. It's hard to go up, but we'd like to come down if we can in prices. But before we make any major jumps, I'd like to see what the Supreme Court rules here in the next 45 days, hopefully. Yeah, understandably. So just before I let you go, if you could pass along a message to policymakers here in Washington, what would it be? Let the legislative branch issue the tariffs. I think there is a space and a place for tariffs, but they have to be done surgically and just not broad-brushed because this arbitrariness is just really hard for us to employ people, make forecasts, build plans, bring innovation to the country.
1:11:22Just let's have a plan that's a little more succinct and maybe well thought out. Yeah, it is literally an Article I of the Constitution. Jeff Stephstedt, I really appreciate your time. owner of Planetary Design, thank you very much for sharing your story. Thank you for your time. Well, up next, a new report detailing how Vice President J.D. Vance is allegedly already working on his plans for 2028. My political panel weighs in in moments.
1:11:54In our politics lead, as we say goodbye to 2025, we're just three days away from the start of a new election year. Yes, I'm sure you're all saying in your heads right now Now with control of Congress on the line and as presidential hopefuls maneuver for the post-Trump era, let's bring back Republican strategist Rena Shah, Democratic strategist and Biden White House advisor, Yamisi Agbawale. Okay, Rena, there's a new story in Axios about how J.D. Vance is kind of mapping out, plotting, if you will, for his 2028 run. Right. If you ask anybody in any of these camps, no, of course not, we'd never consider it.
1:12:31Do you think people are actually starting to map out what they're going to do for 2028 post-Trump? Which people? Republicans who are eyeing the potential to be the next stop. That's a tough question because right now the party is fractured a bit with the coalitions being what they are. I mean, MAGA and America First are no longer one in the same. So what you see the vice president doing is going out there trying to reconnect with state parties, earn goodwill on the road, do some grassroots politicking as one should in this moment, because I don't think the reports of the party fissures really coming to the surface are overblown.
1:13:06I actually think we'll see them get worse in the new year. And one thing that Vance has been clear about, which is interesting, is that he says he will have a sit down with Trump after the midterms. Why would you hit the road now? You're going to spend a whole year out there connecting. For what reason? Your guy is not going to be on the ballot again. Vance knows that. And I think it sits where it sits. He's got to keep the GOP majorities intact. I think he sees himself as pivotal in that. I think a great many people actually don't see him pivotal in that. I actually see him being iced out of the room right now.
1:13:38That's a tough one for him to overcome. As a Democrat, you guys have never had fissures. It's always just a unified front. But this idea that Vance is trying to not not kind of get in the middle of it, not try and unify either side, just kind of step back and say like, hey, we should all be getting along here. Is that tenable over time if you want to run for president? The thing about J.D. Vance is he never really picks a side. He just gets along and enjoys being in the room. Look, he booted Elon Musk out. He gets to be right next to the president. He's learned how to be dependable, but not outshine Trump.
1:14:12But when you want to be the main guy, you kind of have to stand for something. And we saw at the Turning Point Conference that there were different factions, but we saw J.D. Vance 10 to the middle. And I mean, I know Erica Kirk has basically given him the de facto nomination, but he still has to earn a lot of people's trust, people who are a bit suspicious of his close ties to Silicon Valley, Peter Thiel, people that don't buy as much this rural Ohio story. I know you're an Ohio guy, so you can give your own opinion about that. But there are different factions that he will have to pull together.
1:14:42And I don't know if he inspires the same level of enthusiasm that a figure like Donald Trump does. I think you touched on something interesting, though. It's the donor class, though, that I think is most nervous about him. If you go into the Midwest, people generally like him. I'm from next door, West Virginia. I did not like Hillbilly Elegy. I must say I thought it was something that, well, from where I'm from, the South, there's a girl raised in the South. You don't spit on the place you were born and raised from. And I think that's one thing about him is that his inauthenticity doesn't really play too well with the donors.
1:15:14They think he's going to have a hard time with voters come past the midterms. But again, we can't talk about life after the midterms if we don't acknowledge reality right now. Right now, it's Hegseth who's by Trump's side right now because Trump wants a strong man. He doesn't really see J.D. as one. So look at all these big conversations. Do we see J.D. there? No, we see Pete Hegseth there. It'll be fascinating to watch play out. OK, I got to ask you about Marjorie Taylor Greene, who has, what was that? Bye. It has been a journey the last couple of months in particular. I don't think any of us at the start of this year would have figured we would have been in this point.
1:15:50But in particular, Robert Draper has a really great piece, a fantastic journalist in The New York Times, has a great piece out, a profile of her. She's set to resign from Congress one week from today, gave a very revealing interview where she says, quote, Trump called Green in the piece. It says Trump called Green to voice his displeasure. Green was in her Capitol Hill office. And according to a staff member, everyone in the suite of rooms could hear him yelling at her as she listened to him on the speakerphone. Green says she expressed her perplexity over his intransigence. According to Green, Trump replied, my friends will get hurt.
1:16:18This was about the Epstein documents. And I think one of the things I'm trying to figure out is the Marjorie Taylor Greene story is one thing, but Trump and the Epstein documents and kind of how this has been allowed to live in perpetuity, it seems like over the course of the last several months, is just a political own goal that I haven't been able to get my head around on some level. Why? I mean, why Marjorie Taylor Greene thought that President Trump was going to come forth and give her everything she wanted on the Epstein files when she knows the close relationship that the president did have?
1:16:52He hung out. He is a billionaire who hung out with a billionaire class. What she saw was a man in power who for a very short minute had the sun shine on her. And so therefore she ignored the toxicity that she was a foot soldier in pushing around Washington for years. And when the sun no longer shined on her, she decided that the president had to go and she couldn't be in alliance with him anymore. Well, we'll still talk about the Epstein files moving into 2026, but we simply won't talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene. I hope she does well making a podcast or building that YouTube channel that she's clearly trying to do right now.
1:17:22I will put you down as skeptical in the transformation. Skeptical of Marjorie Taylor Greene's moral compass. What do you think, though, about kind of the transformation that we've seen? This is a story that I think has taken on too many different lives. And in some of those lives, Marjorie Taylor Greene had a starring role. and now she will no longer. But the one thing I think will be most memorable about her is that she always said this was about the survivors. This was about the victims. And for whatever it's worth, Congresswoman Nancy Mace, Lauren Boebert, I know there are many people out there who don't always agree with the other things that come out of those women's mouth, but they stood there with Massey and Kana too.
1:17:58And let's not forget the people that actually said this is about the victims. They tried to take the veneer of this whole being an elites thing and really focusing on the women that were misused, abused, taken advantage of. And a lot of those kind of women come from districts like the one that Marjorie Taylor Greene represents. So I think it was personal to her. But I will say she's a woman who always tried to make one plus one not equal two. And then she started this year being a little bit more clear. I think she was trying to say, Trump, I've been loyal to you. You're a loyalty guy. Why haven't you been giving me what I need in return for my years of loyalty?
1:18:35and that's I think puts a bow on it. It's a bad relationship now because Trump, her loyalty to Trump meant nothing in the end. Yeah. Your point about the survivors is the most important one that I try to remember every single day. Guys, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Well, a winter storm bearing down on millions of Americans tonight. This video from Buffalo, New York, where snow is meeting wind gusts up to 79 miles per hour. We're heading to the CNN Weather Center next for an update on the forecast. Stay with us.
1:19:07In our national lead, a powerful winter storm is bearing down on much of the U.S., bringing blizzard conditions, an ice storm, severe thunderstorms, and plunging temperatures. And the storm is causing major problems on the roads as millions travel home from Christmas gatherings. Just take a look at this massive pileup in Detroit earlier today. Meteorologist Chris Warren is in the CNN Weather Center. And Chris, who is seeing the impact now, and where is the storm headed? Well, around the Great Lakes is where we're still seeing some of the biggest impacts, Phil, with lake effect snow, but widespread areas of wind.
1:19:37This was the scene in Detroit earlier when wind and snow, likely the main culprit, leading to at least a couple dozen vehicles involved with this right here. Parts of 75, Interstate 75, closed for a while. So what we're going to be watching, continue to see, will be some of the snow showers reducing visibility at times coming off of the Great Lakes, whether it's straight up lake effect snow, lake enhanced snow. Some of these snow squalls that we'll see here can bring that blinding snow seemingly out of nowhere, especially if you're driving down a highway or an interstate. It's almost like hitting a wall of white, a wall of snow.
1:20:13And so it can be very, very dangerous when we see these and you're on the roads. Winds have been up there as well, still gusting pretty strong, close to 40 miles an hour in some areas. Buffalo is at 79 mile per hour wind gusts today. Strongest wind gusts at the airport in 45 years. Meanwhile, winter storm warning still in effect for parts of the Great Lakes into the northeast, expecting to see in some areas coming off of the lake still about a foot of snow a possibility. Then there's the wind. Of course, the wind making it feel just that much colder out there. But the winds also are a big reason why we're going to see some of the lingering travel issues here.
1:20:48And then, Phil, when you look at just how cold it is, some areas, remember this, some areas yesterday were in the upper 70s, near 80 degrees. Some of those same areas like St. Louis in the 20s today. Yeah, nightmare. All right, hit me. New Year's Eve forecast. What are we looking at? Take a look. Short answer, Phil, it's going to be cold. Temperatures over the next few days are going to be in the 30s for New York. But just to pin it down for you here, during the day on New Year's Eve, at noon, you're going to start to notice a little bit of breezy. The thermometer's not going to read warmer than freezing.
1:21:22It'll be 30 degrees, right around freezing. Wind chills, though, are going to feel like they are in the 20s. That goes at 6 o 'clock. And then, Phil, still at midnight, ringing in the new year. Some 20-mile-per-hour wind gusts here in New York City. It's going to feel colder than that 32. Woof. Chris Warren, appreciate you, man. Thanks so much. And of course, it's almost time to count down to 2026. The reason I'm asking about the weather, New Year's Eve Live with Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen starts at 8 p.m. Wednesday night on CNN and streaming on the CNN app. You can, of course, follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead CNN.
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