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26:13You can do it partially, but then the holding power that you have there, the staying power that you have there, would definitely be called into question if the Iranians still control the Strait of Hormuz in its entirety. So those are two of the objectives. The third objective could be the nuclear strike zone, basically, I'll call it, basically the three nuclear sites within Iran. So those would possibly be the types of targets that you could go after, and those are the ones that you really would have to look at. So we're looking at areas that are near Tehran and then to the south of Tehran, And those are the areas that would be potentially considered for the option of going after the about 1 ,000 or so kilograms, excuse me, pounds of enriched uranium.

27:00So that would be one of the areas that they could do. But that is like the most difficult mission. Straight of Hormuz would have to happen first. Okay. Fifteen things I want to ask you right now. I want to start, though, with straight of Hormuz just because you ended on that. Explain to people what's actually happening there right now. because it's not a black and white thing. Right. But it's a fascinating, dramatic shift of how it has worked for the better part of decade after decade after decade. What are you seeing? So what I'm looking at here, there are several different areas right here that we can take a look at.

27:35And this is, you know, when you look at the Strait of Hormuz, you have an area that has a lot of islands. And, you know, when you look at it on the maps, you see that these islands, like Abu Musa Island and then you've got Kesham Island and one of the other islands near Bandar Abbas. So what you're seeing here is the ability of the Iranians right now to control the sea lanes. Right now the sea lanes have actually moved. The Iranians are moving ships into an area that's closer and within Iranian territorial waters. So what that means is they can theoretically and actually in practice, they're exacting tolls on ships, the few ships, that are going through there right now.

28:17So the Iranians are trying to control that. If they continue to control that, that's going to impact all of the commerce that goes through the entire Persian Gulf. And that would have significant economic impact on these countries right here along the eastern seaboard right there of the, you know, or the western seaboard of the Persian Gulf. With the minute we have left, I want to ask you about what's happening in southern Lebanon right now. We obviously are understandably paying a ton of attention to what's happening in Iran. Israel has an operation underway right now. What should people know about it?

28:46So one of the key things about this is the area just south of the Latani River. So what we're talking about is this area that the Israelis actually have controlled historically before in the 1980s. They moved in. They were supporting the Christian phalanges movement in Lebanon at that particular moment in time. What they're trying to do now is they're trying to get Hezbollah out of an area that is basically within artillery or rocket range of northern Israel. They've done a lot of that work, but the basic thing that they're trying to do is create a buffer zone between themselves and Hezbollah, the remnants of Hezbollah.

29:22They've done a lot of work in decimating the leadership of Hezbollah, you know, with the pager attack and things like that. But the other thing that they're trying to do is they're trying to make Hezbollah an irrelevant force, and they're also trying to get it out of Lebanese politics. So they think they can do that by parking themselves in southern Lebanon. A lot of moving parts. Somehow you were able to explain them all in one map, but I very much appreciate it. Colonel Cedric Layton, thanks so much. You bet, Phil. Thank you. Well, the impact of what we were just discussing on gas prices, which are now flirting with the$4 mark.

29:52Are they ever going to go back down? We're going to get an expert opinion next.

30:04In our money lead, the average price for a gallon of gas today will cost you just shy of$4. That is a dollar a gallon more than just one month ago when, of course, the war in Iran first broke out. With no clear end in sight for this conflict, Americans are asking, how much higher will it go? Patrick DeHaan is the head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy. He joins me now. And Patrick, I had in my head a lot of really brilliant questions to ask you. And then I read your most recent post on Substack, which had the best answers that I've seen to the questions that normal human beings are asking on a regular basis.

30:41And also address a lot of the things the president said yesterday during his cabinet meeting about oil, about energy independence. So I'm just going to kind of steal from your Q &A on Substack, if you don't mind, because I really do think it's invaluable for people to understand, starting with why do gas prices rise if the U.S. is, quote unquote, energy independent, but more importantly, the largest producer right now of barrels per day in the world? Well, Phil, it just all comes back to the fact that it's a very global economy and countries are competing for each other to buy oil. And U.S. oil producers' goal isn't really to sell at the lowest possible price, just like if somebody was approaching us with a home offer to buy our house.

31:24We're not going to take the lowest price. Oil companies take the higher price. And so when other countries like in Asia are being cut off by the de facto closure of the Strait of Hormuz, they're going to bid up the price for oil around the world, not just certain types and varieties. And so while we are the largest oil producer, still our prices of oil that we produce here at home are also affected by what's going on thousands of miles away. The administration has said they will not pursue an export ban after meeting with oil executives who have made very clear that that's problematic in the long term.

32:01But why is that viewed as problematic? What's wrong with just keeping our own oil? Well, in the short term, it would generally push prices down, but essentially it would choke off the future growth of U.S. oil production. It would disincentivize U.S. oil companies to maintain production. In fact, it would be like cutting off half of their customers potentially. So U.S. oil companies are not really giddy at the fact of losing an export market. And not only that, but down the road, you know, after they reduced investing, after they lose out on some of their customers, that would eventually lead to a drop in U.S.

32:37oil production that would then affect all of us. So, you know, a lot of these complexities, a lot of these simple questions are actually very complex answers. One of them, I think, is connected to another assertion the president made, but also a question I get a lot. The U.S. is not heavily reliant or it's barely reliant on the Strait of Hormuz for its oil for the most part at this point. Why does that matter to us? Like, why do we have to care about the Strait of Hormuz in the U.S.? Yeah, again, kind of back to the first question, it was really it's all about the fact that it's a global market.

33:11Countries that no longer have direct access to cheap Middle Eastern crude oil are now bidding up oil that we have that we buy from other countries, including Canada. The West Coast also has a unique susceptibility to Middle Eastern crude oil prices. That's why areas like California right now are seeing gas prices approaching$6 a gallon because that oil is very relevant. And it is very much a global marketplace, and we are all tied together, though sometimes it seems like it would be easier to just cut off the flow of oil and not be relevant or not have to worry about the Strait of Hormuz. What is happening thousands of miles away impacts the entire global economy, and we are part of that.

33:50The immediate downstream effect on prices at somebody's gas station when there are hostilities in the Middle East, when oil prices are jumping up, that oil isn't being delivered the next day. Why does that happen immediately? Why does that immediately flow down to as you're walking into your BP or as you're pulling up to your shell? Well, a lot of this has to do with the fact that markets don't wait to trade and understand information. Just like the same reason, you know, once you see a hurricane maybe headed for your home on the East Coast, you don't wait till it's there to act. You act when you learn that information.

34:24Just kind of how like I look at the weather forecast in the morning and I decide, well, I'll take an umbrella with me. You don't wait for it to start raining to pull your umbrella out. You bring it with you. and the markets are reactive in advance, those futures prices also impact the spot price of fuel. It would be like telling somebody, I'm going to give you a piece of information, but don't act on it for a couple of months. Patrick DeHaan, again, I can't recommend enough. You probably should have a question on the Jones Act just so you could talk about why Jones Act makes no sense whatsoever.

34:54But otherwise, 10 out of 10, no notes. Really great work. Check out his sub stack. Patrick DeHaan, thanks so much. Thanks, Phil. Appreciate it. We're back going on this hour. President Trump is speaking now in Miami at the Future Investment Initiative. We're going to monitor those remarks. Plus, at breaking news, Tiger Woods in custody on suspicion of DUI after a rollover crash. Authorities saying they do not believe he was impaired by alcohol, but instead, by something else. We are following the latest on this one. We're back in a moment.

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36:10Now streaming on the CNN app. How many of you would like to see impeachment hearings? No, that was the wrong answer. Let me try it again. How many of you would like to see impeachment hearings? No. Can someone bring some coffee out? I'm so here for that. Just for anyone. That's an apolitical statement. The call and response, it goes the exact opposite way of what you're expecting. That's awkward and a lot more. I want to talk about this with our panel. Joe, that was CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp. Not exactly what he was going for there. I don't really know what to make of that. What do you make of it?

36:57What I make is that we've been wondering for a decade, right, what would finally cause the gap between Trump and the mainstream Republican. You know, he's been the Teflon Don for over a decade. It wasn't concerns about Russia. It wasn't January 6th. It wasn't Jack Smith and Alvin Bragg and the various prosecutions. It might be Iran, right? He promised us no overseas adventures and he promised us to to make life more affordable. And at this moment, neither of those things are happening. And so I think with Iran, even if you're hawkish like myself and feel like we should have done something after 9-11 and we wasted 20 years in Afghanistan and Iraq, people may have given him that patience if this were happening back then.

37:38I don't think there's any patience for this now. And I think you're going to see that in the rank and file and the MAGA movement. Chuck, one, I think it's a really, really good point, as we're all trying to kind of suss out where things are right now. But it also connects to something our colleague Steve Contorno, who's over, has been at CPAC all week doing great reporting, picked up on cam from somebody. Take a listen.

38:00I think they would get destroyed in the midterms. A lot of people I knew who just voted for Trump because they thought it was cool in, like, high school are just now just being like, I can't stand the guy. So why are you here then? I'm still a conservative. I think my question is, for Democrats right now, when you're looking around the landscape, do you think that that group of younger voters maybe weren't engaged but thought it was cool, younger voters in particular who didn't want foreign excursions, lived through Iraq and Afghanistan, and liked the peace president that they voted for, how much of that group do you think is attainable for Democrats?

38:38There's a couple things going on all at the same time. There's something that we've talked about on this program is when Donald Trump is not on the tickets, Republicans perform differently. Presidential years are different than off-year elections. We're moving into an off-year election. So what we don't know is will they vote for Democrats, or my bet is a lot of them stay home because they're not motivated. It could be the war. It could be the Epstein files. It could be frustrations. But there's something that the Texas primaries taught us, which was there's an enthusiasm with both parties, more so with the Democrats to show up.

39:05A lot of people voted in a midterm primary that had ever voted before. That means something's happening in the electorate. I'm glad you brought up the Texas primary because that obviously has been a focus as well at CPAC. And it's kind of the sharpest divide that's visible right now in the midterms within the Republican Party. Kim Paxton headlining tonight's CPAC Ronald Reagan dinner in a bitter runoff with Cornyn. Here's what Bannon said about the race today. This is Dallas Morning News. Paxton Cornyn divided on CPAC. Right? Cornyn's not coming. You know why? he didn't think you were important enough to talk to.

39:44To be clear, Steve Bannon should have used first name and first reference. My biggest question of all is why hasn't Trump endorsed yet? Three weeks after posting on Truth Social, he was going to. And what impact that has. Because his track record for endorsing other Republicans is not very good. And I think maybe that's finally sinking in. This is going to be a terrible midterm for us. I mean, it is. And the question is really the focus on 2028. I think maybe it's sunk through that when he picks a candidate, particularly the outlier candidate, as opposed to the mainstream Republican, things don't go well.

40:21Things go sideways. And so I think at this point, he might be finally getting the message like, you know what, I can't always take up all the oxygen in the room. Maybe I should sit this one out. It's really important to note that the Cornyn team, knowing that they had an uphill battle to get this endorsement, hired the entire Trump operation just to try to satisfy him. And he still hasn't jumped in because he wants to be, to Joe's point, with the winner. And he hasn't decided who that's going to be yet. He thought it would be corny because he unexpected did fairly well after that. But everybody knows who has ever done a runoff.

40:49Only the base of the base shows up in a runoff in the middle of May in Texas. And that really goes to Paxton's advantage. Do you think Paxton's the clear advantage at this point? Absolutely. Just because I've done campaigns for 30 years and the only thing on the ballot is this. And so only the people that really care, and that's the MAGA base. And what does that mean? If Paxton wins, what does it mean? I know the kind of narrative of what it means for the Democratic candidate. Old disclosure, everybody knows I work for Tallarico. I know. But this ain't about James Tallarico. Maybe a little bit.

41:16This is a lot about the Republican brand right now. They're fighting history. Yeah, I wish I could say the Democrats are the end all be all, and I do think James Tallarico is a special candidate. But they're running against history and the numbers, and I think no matter who wins, I think it's a little easier with Paxton, but I think with either one of them, they have a troubling time. OK, Joe, it would take a lot for me to agree to play this sound, but there's a point on the back end of it. I want to assure you of that. George Santos talking about things in D.C. Take a listen. U.S. House of Representatives, you know what time it is?

41:49It's time to expel Sheila McCormick. And if no one knows what to do with the Tiffany Diamond ring, I'll hold on to it for good and pleasure and for safekeeping. I'll wear it. You guys will know where it is at all times. But Sheila, it's time for you to go. I regret that decision. I made the wrong choice. Playing that's bringing George Santos back into everybody's life. The reason why, though, is because what he's talking about is a significant issue right now for one Democrat in particular, but the caucus as well. Phyllis McCormick faces federal charges for allegedly stealing millions in FEMA funds and using some of the money for purchases like the aforementioned diamond ring.

42:27The Congresswoman denies any wrongdoing. Obviously, the ethics ruling came down. Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader, says we're going to wait until she gets justice, has the jury of her peers. What do you think? I think that expelling Santos even prior to a conviction, that was a high note for us Republicans. That showed some ethics. That showed that we're not going to tolerate those kind of antics. This should be a layup for Democrats. She's in the bluest district in Florida. Why not do the same thing? We set the precedent for expelling someone prior to a prosecution. So do that and take the high road.

43:03I mean, I don't see what the downside is to that. One of the things I see in congressional races all across the country right now with the electorate, Democrat or Republican, is trust in the institution of the Congress. It's even lower than Donald Trump, and he's at an all-time low. If she is found guilty, she should have her day in court, and she should fight this with everything she can fight. But she should not be there, and she should be expelled if she broke the law. Democrat, Republican, independent. We trust you to put you in office and to be sacred with this money. And if you break the law, you should be out.

43:29But not before the actual criminal case plays out. I don't think so. I mean, I think that any student, yeah, I think that, I just, whether, I said that about Santos, too. Like, if you should make sure you did the crime. And if she did, she should be gone. Appreciate you guys, as always. Thank you. Breaking news. Golfer Tiger Woods arrested on a DUI in custody this hour after a rollover crash. What investigators are revealing about the actions of the legendary golfer after the collision? That's next.

44:03Welcome to The Lead. I'm Phil Mattingly in for Jake Tapper. This hour, we are following breaking news out of Florida, where golf legend Tiger Woods has been arrested on suspicion of DUI after a car crash in Florida. The local sheriff saying Woods clipped a truck pulling a trailer, causing his car to roll on its side. What else we're learning about the crash in just moments? Plus, thousands of Americans will now go another weekend without pay after Republicans and Democrats on Capitol Hill failed to, let's be blunt, do their jobs. The Senate passed a bill to end the partial government shutdown, then meeting a quick death at the hands of Speaker Mike Johnson.

44:38And now, TSA agents, FEMA employees, cybersecurity workers get their pay is back in limbo. Don't worry, though. Congress is still getting paid. Also, with so many TSA agents calling out or quitting altogether, there is absolute madness at a growing number of airports today. Passengers flying out of Houston telling CNN they're arriving seven hours before their flights. Wait times? Oh, or more than three hours in Baltimore. How much strain can the system really take? And hackers linked to Iran have breached the personal email account of FBI Director Kash Patel, the source tells CNN. And the hackers took photos and documents from the account and posted some of them online.

45:17How big of a security risk could this be? Will more officials be targeted as the war goes on? We are following that breaking news tonight. Golf legend Tiger Woods is in jail, arrested on suspicion of DUI. Woods was driving a Land Rover in Jupiter, Florida this afternoon when police say he clipped a pickup truck pulling a trailer, causing Woods' car to roll on its side. This is, of course, not the first car accident or first arrest for allegedly driving under the influence for Woods. He was arrested in 2009 and 2017 for DUIs. And in 2021, he was seriously injured in a rollover crash. Woods is 50 years old and has been on the golf comeback trail after rupturing his Achilles a year ago and undergoing his seventh back surgery late last year.

46:05I want to get straight to CNN's World Sports Patrick Snell. Patrick, what more are we learning right now? Hi there, Phil. Yeah, really, really concerning. Tiger Woods, of course, one of the greatest players ever to have played the sport of golf. And these are very much unwanted headlines for him. No question about that. Golf's 15-time major winner, second only to Jack Nicklaus, who recorded 18 majors. But yes, within the last 90 minutes or so, this is what's been unfolding, according to police down there in South Florida. At this hour, Woods in jail after being arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence.

46:39That's according to the officials there in Florida. Woods driving a Land Rover. And here's what we know. It allegedly clipped a pickup truck, which was pulling at the time a small trailer. The collision causing Woods' Land Rover to roll onto its side. When police got to the scene, Tiger Woods showing signs of impairment, according to police down there and also further to police. Woods allegedly crawling out of the passenger door of his vehicle. Let's hear now more from the officers there in the Sunshine State. The question is breathalyzer was zero and it's a urine test. The answer is yes. So on scene, we had DRE experts evaluating him and they believed from on scene that he was not impaired on alcohol, they believe it was some type of medication or drug.

47:29And again, at the jail, he cooperated with the urine, or I'm sorry, he cooperated with the breathalyzer and then the urine he wanted no part of. Is there going to be any testing afterwards? What's the procedure with that to verify if he was under something? So the question, will there be any follow-up testing? The answer is no. He has a right to refuse that test. There is a Florida statute, which he will be charged with for refusing to take that test, but we will never get definitive of results as to what he was impaired on at the time of the crash. And Phil, I think very, very important to point out that thankfully nobody was injured in this incident.

48:06That's certainly something to highlight. And that is actually good news, the fact that nobody at all was injured. But to your point just before, Woods was, you're quite right, he was on the comeback trail. I recall reported extensively on his 2021 car crash in Los Angeles in Southern California. and the whole series of surgeries he had after that to his leg and his ankle. Nobody, well, some thought at the time he would never play again, but he made the most miraculous recovery after that car wreck in Southern California. I witnessed his comeback at the Masters in 2022, which was quite incredible.

48:41And he had just spoken this past week in South Florida about potentially playing at this year's Masters. He's not played competitively since 2024. So it now looks, well, let's just say what's going to happen with his prospective appearance at the Masters in April, which starts on April the 9th. You have to think now that is most likely unlikely. Back to you. Yeah, much more significant focus, I think, for him on the personal side. Patrick Snell, thank you. Great reporting as always. I want to bring in criminal defense attorney Bill Brennan, also bring back CNN sports analyst Christine Brennan.

49:16Bill, I want to start with you. Officials say that Woods showed signs of impairment but was not under the influence of alcohol, was arrested after he refused a urine test. What do you make of what you've heard? Well, as somebody who's handled a lot of DUIs, primarily in Pennsylvania and in our neighboring state, New Jersey, first, when the responding officers come upon an accident, they evaluate the crash site, see if everybody's okay. Then they look at the drivers and they look for signs of impairment. Apparently this got to that stage. It then was amped up a little bit to a breath test, which purportedly showed all zeros.

50:00They asked him to submit to urinalysis. He said, no, and the difference is breath will show alcohol. Urinalysis will show more. in Pennsylvania and in New Jersey, we primarily amp it up to a blood test. But that would show if there was a medication prescription or otherwise or some type of substance other than alcohol. And that may be the case here, it may not. Florida has similar penalties to Pennsylvania where it's called a recidivist statute if you have a DUI and then within 10 years of that DUI get another, then the penalties are enhanced. So it's reported that Mr. Woods had a DUI in 17. He's almost there, but not quite there yet.

50:51So that would be an issue. There's also in Florida, as there is in Pennsylvania, you have the right to refuse the testing, but there's a penalty for that. For instance, in Pennsylvania, you read these things with the O 'Connell warnings, And they say, look, you know, we would like you to take these chemical tests. But if you don't, then your driver's license will be suspended for a year. So it's its own penalty. So, I mean, thankfully, it doesn't seem like he was hurt or seriously hurt or no one else was. And it'll meander through the court system. Before it starts the full meandering process, and again, not to make light of it, I'm just trying to think through.

51:32We heard the sheriff say that he's going to be held in jail for at least several more hours tonight. What is happening right now with him behind bars? Well, one of the reasons that people are held in New Jersey, there was a very sad case that changed the law where someone was arrested for DUI and they were processed and then they left and there was a fatality on the way home. So he's there to be processed. He's also there if, in fact, he's under the influence of any substance. And he's presumed innocent. Nobody knows that he is. But it's also there to protect him and to protect the public, you know, to have somebody come get him perhaps.

52:17But let's let's get through that part. He'll be processed. He'll be charged, possibly. He'll certainly, I think, be charged with the refusal. That's its own problem. And then he will have a hearing before a Florida judge. And whether they charge him with driving under the influence or not, he'll certainly go and deal with the refusal issue, but probably deal with both. And because I believe, if the reports are correct, that it's not a first offense, it'll be enhanced. So the penalties will be a little more serious. But, you know, each state is different. For instance, in Pennsylvania, it's a violation of the traffic code.

53:00It's also a criminal offense. It's a misdemeanor. In New Jersey, our neighboring state, it's purely a violation of the vehicle code. But penalties are serious when there's more than one DUI. Christine, you've covered Tiger from the beginning of the phenom, Earl Woods, Stanford, U.S. amateur. What I'm interested in is what we know about, and based on your reporting, he's been doing the last several years. Yes, he was recovering from an injury, a very serious Achilles injury, the back surgery. Obviously, he's been probably the most watchable virtual golf tournaments that I've ever seen in my entire life.

53:42But do we know much about kind of what he's been up to outside of that? Phil has businesses that he is golf courses. He's as we talked an hour or so ago, he's a dad. Right. And his daughter played soccer and won a state tournament. And she's in college and his son is a golfer and he's going to Florida State to play golf. So Tiger shows up like, you know, many parents do at the kids games. And and that's where he's been. And he's also been a force in trying to work with whatever men's golf is going to look like worldwide with Live Golf, with the PGA Tour, all the things that have been happening, the machinations there over the last few years.

54:25And Tiger's really been seen as a leader and potentially that kind of a force moving forward, another role for him in the sport of golf. And so, you know, he's been more human. He signed some autographs. graphs. You know, he was so focused with blinders on Phil, you know, that's the way he was trained by his dad. And now we've seen a more human side. Obviously, this is very troubling and appalling considering his recklessness and what his history has been. If this is in fact true that it again, that this was a DUI. If we find that out to be a fact, it's a very, very troubling term for him. Yeah, especially based on the past.

55:07Christine Brennan, Bill Brennan, fairly certain no relation. Didn't check that with you beforehand. Just going to go with that. Appreciate you guys both. Appreciate you. Thanks so much. Well, despite the ongoing government shutdown, TSA agents could see paychecks on Monday. How likely is that? And what about the rest of the money they're owed? That's next.

55:33Breaking news in our national lead. House Republican leaders rejecting the Senate-approved funding bill, which would have funded almost all agencies within the Department of Homeland Security, with the exception of ICE and Border Patrol operations. So where is the Senate? They are not in the building you're looking at on your screen. They're already out of town starting a two-week break. Now, in their defense, they passed it 100 to nothing, essentially, by unanimous consent last night, assumed the House would follow suit. Doesn't look like that's going to actually happen, which means this DHS shutdown will likely last at least several more days.

56:06Now, TSA workers have been going on pay, going without pay. This will now be their second full paycheck missed. And administration officials say some employees have received eviction notices, drained their savings, while others have resorted to sleeping in their cars, selling their blood in plasma, taking other jobs. I want to bring in TSA agent Johnny Jones. He's also the Secretary-Treasurer of the American Federation of Government Employees, TSA Council 100. That council represents more than 44 ,000 TSA officers. Johnny, a lot of people woke up this morning rightfully hopeful that this was all about to finally be over.

56:44What are you hearing right now from your fellow TSA workers? What I'm hearing from my colleagues is that they are about as confused as it gets. Number one, they were optimistic this morning that things were going to be resolved. Unfortunately, yet again, TSA officers and other components of DHS are going to be used as political pawns on either side to try to resolve these issues. These CSA officers, more specifically, we're going into our second full missed paycheck, but really it's technically really our third because we didn't receive much of a paycheck at the end of the month. We are struggling.

57:23Officers are at wit's end. They've taken mental abuses. Their financials are abused. Their families are suffering. It's one thing that when you don't get paid, you cancel all kinds of things. This is just unsustainable, unreal. I want people watching to think about what would happen if two consecutive three paychecks did not show up and how how life would be on that. And it's why I'm trying to understand more about what is unilaterally being set in motion by the administration. The pay for TSA workers could start as early as Monday is what the administration has said. Is that a sure thing? And does that have anything to do with back pay at all?

58:07well the that is the back pay i'd let uh i'm sure i think one of the questions is from the workforce is like well is this temporary or is this like uh tsa is fully funded now so to speak we're going to get paid even though the government shut down uh this is definitely something new that's happening with this executive order you know most of us are we're about as confused i'm sure there's there might even be a legal challenge for all i know coming down to pike um so whatever in the world is going on. Most people at T.S. like my colleagues are just like, well, I'm going to get paid, but are we still shut down?

58:42Because the last month hasn't been hard enough. I really appreciate your time, Perspective, thinking the best for you and all of your colleagues. Johnny Jones, thank you so much. Thank you so much. I want to bring in Republican Congressman Ryan McKenzie of Pennsylvania. He's on the House Homeland Security Committee. Congressman, When you hear something like that from TSA officers, they're not pointing fingers one side or the other, just saying, look, man, pay us right now. What's your response? They absolutely should be paid, and that's why I supported and voted three times here in the House for full funding for all of DHS.

59:21Not just our TSA agents, but FEMA, our Secret Service agents, Coast Guard, our military members, and individuals in ICE and CBP. All of those individuals are doing critical work across our country. They should be getting paid. And not only have we voted three times for that critical legislation here in the House, and the Senate has failed to get that bipartisan support, but we also do need a long-term solution to this problem. I was a state legislator before coming here to Congress, and one of the things that we made sure was that even in shutdowns, an absence of a budget passed at the state level, critical workers still received their pay.

59:59And there are a couple different categories here at the federal government level, but the most absurd one are these individuals that are still having to show up every single day and not getting paid for that work. So I've introduced and supported legislation that would alleviate that problem going forward so that we could once and for all end this kind of ridiculous chaos. Honestly, anything that could end any element of this ridiculous chaos would be great. But can I ask you, though, like I understand you are absolutely right on your votes. every Senate Democrat I've talked to says, look, I put up all of these UC requests to have a vote on one thing or not.

1:00:32This goes back and forth. It's a game on some level. And I understand, like you guys have voted on full year. You guys have voted on full agency. You guys have voted on full DHS approves in isolation. Democrats have voted on full just TSA and full just Coast. Like, what is the what's the resolution here? Like, there is no way to marry what Republicans are pursuing right now and what Senate and senators did last night. So where does this go? Well, I think what we want to see is we want to see full DHS funding for every component of it. But we also, as a part of this conversation, are seeking meaningful reforms.

1:01:13And there are bipartisan reforms that the White House agrees on, that Democrats would agree on. There is a bipartisan proposal out there with some members of the House. Things like body cams, making those mandatory, making sure that badges and identification are worn by agents that are out on the field. We also want to make sure that we improve training, make sure the de-escalation training is a requirement, and then improving and bolstering internal investigations for when things do go wrong. And so all of those things have bipartisan support. We should come together on those things that Republicans and Democrats agree on.

1:01:48pass a funding, even if it's short-term funding, like we're offering up here in the House tonight. Say, let's have this continuing resolution go for two months, get that going, but also make sure that every part of DHS is funded, but continue these conversations on bipartisan reforms that are really meaningful. We will certainly be watching as this continues to play out. Republican Congressman Ryan McKenzie of Pennsylvania, appreciate your time, sir. Thanks so much. Thank you. Well, oil companies could soon be facing a big legal battle that goes all the to the U.S. Supreme Court. CNN's Bill Weir is in Washington, D.C.

1:02:20and joins us live in the studio to explain next.

1:02:30In our Earth Matters series, while war abroad threatens the stability of oil and gas prices around the world, a different kind of battle back in the U.S. has big oil running for cover. CNN's Bill Weir looks into a new legal challenge that hopes to hold oil companies accountable for their role in climate change. For the seventh straight year, Washington's famous cherry blossoms are blooming early. One of the prettier warnings that Earth is overheating. Much less pleasant are the record-shattering heat domes out west, or the life-changing flash floods in Hawaii, or any of the billion-dollar disasters mounting by the year.

1:03:10Evidence shows these are intensified by every gigaton of fossil fuel burned, and that oil companies knew it would happen decades ago. Internal memos are the basis of over two dozen lawsuits brought by cities, states, and tribes, all hoping to make big oil pay damages. But President Trump wants to shut them all down, one way or another. After rejecting five appeals from big oil in the last three years, the Supreme Court finally agreed to hear the case brought by the city of Boulder, Colorado. But some Republicans don't even want to take their chances here with this conservative court and want to pass a new shield law guaranteeing that executives from Big Oil would never get sued ever again.

1:03:55Clearly, this is an area in which Congress has a role to play. In a recent hearing, Wyoming Republican Harriet Hagman asked the Justice Department for legal help and hinted at the kind of liability shield that was given to gunmakers after mass shootings brought a slew of lawsuits. To that end, I'm working with my colleagues in both the House and Senate to craft legislation tackling both these state laws and the lawsuits that could destroy energy affordability for consumers. It's enough to bring Jay Inslee back to town, one of the few Democrats to ever run for president on climate action. I am kind of playing the role of Paul Revere here.

1:04:31The British aren't coming, but the oil and gas industry is coming. It's been a long seven years since the former congressman and governor of Washington launched his campaign and storm ravaged Iowa. He was trying to keep climate in the debate, but now the party in power is at all out war with climate science. Hey, why do you have a picture of Senate Republican leadership? An animal with no spine? But his party has no clear national leader focused on this issue. These oil and gas executives are terrified of having to face their own record. They're terrified of being cross-examined and read the things they wrote back in the 70s and 80s that predicted this catastrophe that we're now experiencing.

1:05:20It's worse because at the same time we are exposed to enormous increased costs associated with energy, in part because they had a corrupt scheme with the president of Mar-a-Lago. He said, give me a billion dollars and I'll prevent your competitors from doing business. So this is all part of a corrupt scheme to not only deprive Americans of access to the cheapest electricity in America, which is solar, wind, and batteries, At the same time, gouging Americans for electricity prices and gas prices to then turn around and say, and we're exempt from all the laws. We're above the laws. We don't have to be accountable for our deception.

1:06:02And Americans should revile that action. We should not allow it. Harriet Hageman, who beat Liz Cheney in Wyoming for her seat, now running for the Senate. And we reached out to her because I was dying to ask more about this idea that if big oil gets taken to court, it'll add even more to gasoline bills these days. But she wouldn't talk to us right now. But the worry is that this is the kind of thing that gets slipped into an appropriations bill on a Friday and never gets debated. It's a fascinating story. Bill Weir. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Well, up next, much more on our breaking news.

1:06:35Tiger Woods arrested on suspicion of DUI after a car crash in Florida. Stick with us.

1:06:48We're back with the breaking news. Golf legend Tiger Woods arrested for suspicion of DUI after a rollover crash. I want to bring in Joel Beal. He's a senior writer at Golf Digest. Joel, just to start with, again, I think a lot of people are trying to, especially who came up with him, trying to see how could this possibly be happening again, the echoes of past incidents. What was your reaction? exactly that you know not this again it was just five years ago that tiger was involved in a single car crash in los angeles the crash was so severe that there were questions if his left leg would need to be amputated before that in 2017 was pulled over for reckless driving under the suspicion of dui and obviously that thanksgiving day wreck where his private life became very public so for this to happen again clearly there's a pattern thankfully he was not injured he's okay but But at this point, you do wonder what type of intervention needs to happen involving Tiger and Kars.

1:07:42Can I ask, I was talking to Christine Brennan earlier about this. What's he, explain to folks what he's been doing in recent years. Like obviously recovering, major surgery, another back surgery, Achilles repair. But what's kind of his involvement in the game right now? Yeah, he hasn't played an official tournament since the summer of 2024. He's sort of moved to an advisory role at the PGA Tour. The tour has a new CEO in Brian Roloff who came from the NFL. And Roloff brought on Tiger sort of as a way to a conduit for players to as they build a new schedule going forward. Tiger's kind of been the liaison between the new leadership and the players.

1:08:18So really, he hasn't been a player in quite some time. That being said, he did return to TGL earlier this week. And there was hope that actually today we could hear that Tiger was going to suit up for the Masters in less than two weeks. Obviously, that crash today puts that puts that prospect in jeopardy. What's the response been, either from folks that you're talking to, I've been on air for most of the time, the golf world right now that you've seen as everybody kind of digests this? Everyone's just concerned. He is undergoing, or he is coming back from back surgery in the fall. He's still dealing with injuries, suffered from that 2021 car crash.

1:08:56His recent appearances, people have kind of been whispering, there's something going on. So this, I don't want to say people knew what was coming, But this was definitely a fear that given his past troubles with medications, especially with medications concerning his back, there was worry that Tiger could have been showing signs that he was dealing with prescription trouble again. And as we heard in the sheriff's press conference today, Lou Zero's on the breathalyzer, but did not adhere to a urine test under suspicion of DUI. And as they also pointed out, it was likely drugs or medication. So I think everyone's just concerned for his well-being at this point.

1:09:32his playing days at this point aren't really a concern for most. You mentioned, you know, the last time I thought about it was when I realized that, hey, he may be playing in the Masters because he said as much, which is kind of the Tiger at the Masters in April. You see the commercials, like everything's looking up. What is his physical state or was his physical state in terms of playing ability over the course of the last couple of months? Maybe it was non-existent. Earlier this year at his Genesis Invitational in Los Angeles, he had mentioned he was up to at least hitting balls, but it wasn't going as smoothly as he wanted, that there was still pain associated, that he returned to TGL was at least assigned the right direction, but there's a very big difference between hitting balls in a simulator versus dealing with Augusta National, let alone one of the best fields in golf.

1:10:21So I think even if he would have come back for the Masters, it would have been mostly as a ceremonial role, which fans would have been fine with. They just want to see Tiger again. They want to see him inside the ropes, even if he might not be the same competitor as he once was. Just, I mean, he's already 50 years old, even divorcing from all the injuries and setbacks he's suffered. You don't see too many 50-year-olds competing on the PGA Tour at the moment. So I think fans were embracing this new Tiger. But yeah, today's news, I think just people are hoping for his well-being at this point. Any aspersions to him coming back and playing, I think, aren't founded.

1:10:56Yeah, I think everybody should hope for his well-being. obviously thinking about his kids and family as well. Joel Beal, really appreciate your time and perspective. Thanks so much. Thank you. Well, turning now to another major story in our Law and Justice League. Today, lawyers for Fulton County, Georgia, tried to get back the 2020 election ballots federal officials seized during an FBI raid in January. Here now is David Becker, the CEO and founder of the Center for Election Innovation and Research. I'm just going to ask you what I asked you during the break beforehand. This is surreal. That feels like a Mad Libs that somebody made up.

1:11:29What's actually happening here? So it's been five and a half years since the 2020 election. And the ballots in that election in Georgia and nationwide have been counted and recounted and reviewed by courts. And we know exactly what happened in that election. In Georgia specifically, those paper ballots throughout the state were counted three times, three different ways, once entirely by hand with observation from both parties. But here we have the administration still trying to relitigate the 2020 election. And of course, we remember about two months ago, the FBI went in and seized all those materials.

1:12:00Now, shortly after that, we saw the affidavit that supported that warrant. And I think to most observers, including myself, that affidavit was incredibly deficient. It did not allege intent. It didn't even really allege a crime. It didn't even allege that there had been election theft of any kind. It kind of acknowledged the fact that the election was confirmed multiple times. And then finally, it didn't even mention the fact that the statute of limitations was five years on any alleged crimes, and that has passed. It relied on debunked conspiracy theories that had been reviewed by many others over the course of the past few years.

1:12:34And so Fulton County established this action to try to get their stuff back. The problem with that is the standard is very high. And so what this hearing today was about was whether or not the government had acted in callous disregard when it used that warrant to seize the materials. They heard testimony from experts that pointed out the omissions in the affidavit that pointed out that it relied on conspiracy evidence. And also, the DOJ did not put on the witness itself, the FBI agent who had testified, who provided the affidavit in that case. They opposed a motion to have him testify. So the question was whether or not Fulton County could establish that there was callous disregard.

1:13:16The hearing took all day. We don't know what's going to happen. Might get a ruling sometime next week. I mean, at least the D &I chief was there. That was obviously the most important. Yeah, exactly. It's insane. And I think that actually, we only have like 30 seconds left, but is this a real, what are they trying to do here? So it's hard for me to say exactly what they're trying to do, but I'm very confident that this was not an effort to actually collect evidence about a crime. There was no crime. The statute of limitations bars it. You've got the DNI inside the facility while the evidence is being collected.

1:13:45It's going to be very hard to introduce it. So I think it looks like this is more use of law enforcement as a PR tool or a campaign tool rather than as a law enforcement tool. And that should, of course, concern the courts. We'll see what the court does here. Becker, appreciate your time, sir. Thank you so much. Let's go back to that crash involving Tiger Woods. CNN's Randy Kay just arrived at the jail where Woods is being held. It's in Martin County, Florida, north of Palm Beach, along Florida's east coast. Randy, what can you tell us from your vantage point right now? Yeah, Phil, we are here in Stewart, Florida, where the jail is located.

1:14:19And what we know is this. There is a lot of media here waiting for Tiger Woods possibly to be released later. They can hold him here in the jail, we're told, for about eight hours. So we're waiting on that. That could happen later this evening. But this all started just before 2 p.m. when the sheriff says that Tiger Woods was driving his Land Rover. He was coming up quickly on a truck that was pulling a very small trailer, and the truck was slowing down, trying to pull into a driveway, apparently. And he told the sheriff's department that he could see Tiger Woods approaching him very quickly. From behind, apparently, according to the sheriff, Tiger Woods tried to swerve, clip the truck, and then his Land Rover rolled.

1:14:58Now, it rolled on the driver's side, and apparently he was able, according to authorities, was able to climb out of the passenger's side. Now, police, the sheriff's department are saying that Woods showed no signs of impairment, but they have charged him with, showed signs of impairment, excuse me. They have charged him with a DUI, property damage, and refusal to submit to a lawful test. Now, this is because when they took him to the jail, he had taken a breathalyzer, and the sheriff says that he blew a triple zero, so no alcohol. But because he was showing signs of impairment, they wanted to do a urinalysis, and the sheriff says that Tiger Woods refused to take that urinary test.

1:15:34So he will, as I said, likely be held here for about eight hours, which would put him here till about 10 or 11 p.m. tonight. And the sheriff did say he will not be held here in the general population. Phil. Randy Kay, keep us posted with whatever you learn. Thanks so much for the great reporting. So what exactly did hackers gain access to when they breached the personal email of FBI Director Kash Patel? That's next.

1:16:04And our world lead hackers connected to the Iranian government accessed FBI Director Kash Patel's personal email and posted materials, including photos and documents taken from his account. That's according to a person familiar with the hack who confirmed it to CNN. Now, CNN has chosen not to broadcast any of the stolen pictures or email. But I do want to discuss the implications of this with former Deputy Director of National Intelligence Beth Sander. And the reason why I want to discuss the implications of it is Iran, we were just talking about this, Iran's cyber capabilities have always been held in high regard or at least considered a threat.

1:16:41Maybe not high regard. They've been considered threatening. We are at war right now with Iran. What do you think that they're doing right now in cyber and what is this an example of? Well, I mean, this is an example of them being a nuisance and making a point. And they do this all the time. Like Israel, they've been at cyber war with Israel for years. And so we've seen this pattern. They hacked and leaked all the information from a gay dating website, all the information about patient records at one hospital, very depressing things for people to have to deal with and upsetting things. So that's one category.

1:17:20But I think that, you know, maybe you and I think of Iran as a cyber threat. But there are a lot of people, I think, that underestimate because they see this sort of thing and they're like, whatever. But there's actually quite a risk in terms of their capabilities on cybersecurity, on critical infrastructure. And that's particularly true of water systems, which they seem to specialize in. What does the U.S. have in place to stop them? Is this a reactive type of capability or is the U.S. offensively going after things right now? So, I mean, definitely there are reactions that are offensive, but that's not going to really make any impact on what Iran wants to do.

1:18:01I mean, they will find and be looking for and they're scanning systems all the time here in the United States, in the Gulf, in Israel. And, you know, if they find their way in, then they will strike. They took down about a dozen U.S. rural water facilities in 2023. And that's because they were running the ICT that was designed by Israel and they had encountered it in Israel and they knew how to do it. I think the big danger for me is thinking about the Gulf critical infrastructure. We know that they're probing that. We know that they've struck these facilities kinetically. So why not go after cyber as well?

1:18:41I think that they're, you know, either waiting or they're working on it. It's clearly something U.S. officials behind the scenes have been thinking about working on as well. We'll see how it plays out. But I do want to play something for you mostly because most of the time when you and I are talking about this current situation, we're talking about the Strait of Hormuz. And apparently Trump was just talking about it during a speech down in Florida. Take a listen. They have to open it up. They have to open up the Strait of Trump. I mean, Hormuz. Excuse me. I'm so sorry. such a terrible mistake.

1:19:21The fake news will say, he accidentally said no. There's no accidents with me, not too many. If there were, it would have a major story.

1:19:34I don't have a great question here. I have lots of thoughts, but I'm interested in your perspective on that. Well, you know, I think it is kind of, I think the Europeans will think it's very funny because Rubio was just talking to them and saying that they needed to take the lead in opening the Strait of Trump. So, I mean, oh, whoops, I mean Strait of Hormuz. So, you know, either we're going to open it and we're going to run it, maybe with the Ayatollah, as he said earlier, or maybe somebody else will call it the Strait of Denmark. Yeah, it's, you know, joint venture, Ayatollah to be named later, Strait of Trump.

1:20:12It is serious. Like, people do not understand how serious what's happening right now in the Strait of Hormuz is. And the people who are going to get hurt are not the people making the decisions. And I joke, whatever. Thank you. Moving on. Beth Sander, appreciate you, my friend. In just a few days, NASA hopes to launch four astronauts on a 10-day journey around the moon. Details on this blast into a new space race and potential galactic discoveries. That's next.

1:20:50In our Out of This World lead, the countdown is on. Today, the crew of Artemis II arrived at Kennedy Space Center in Florida to prepare for their upcoming mission around the moon. If all goes according to plan, they'll blast off Wednesday night on their historic trip. And joining me now in the studio to talk about all of it is former NASA astronaut Scott Scooter Altman. He spent more than 50 days in space. I am terrified of the concept of being in space. What are these astronauts thinking right now? Like in this moment before going up, what are you thinking about? So they've just gotten down to the Cape.

1:21:26They've got a couple of days to kind of finally get themselves ready to go, spend a little bit of time with their families who come down there, and really last chance to feel like you got everything ready to go. It's an exciting time actually as you get close to launch finally. How much of it is, you've got nerves, it's definitely exciting, but you are going, in your head, you are walking through every single technical detail, engineering detail, whatever your task is. Yeah, typical astronaut's prayer is, I don't care what happens as long as it's not my fault. You don't want to be the one who makes the big mistake.

1:22:00But at the same time, when you come down to go get on the vehicle to launch, to me it felt like Christmas morning. I'm coming downstairs, I don't know what I'm going to get, but I know it's going to be great, and that's just what flying in space is like. Artemis 1 was uncrewed. There's four astronauts flying on Artemis 2. How much more preparation goes into having humans on board a ship like this? Yeah, so for Artemis 1, they didn't have to have an environmental control system to keep people alive. Now we have folks living on the vehicle. But you also have the opportunity for people to actually have hands on.

1:22:31They're going to do a flight control test as part of this, where they actually undock from the launch vehicle and maneuver around to see how they control. It's very similar to some of the tests we did on Apollo. When we did Apollo 9 with the lander there, they got to orbit, did tests and everything before we sent folks to the moon. The Canadian astronaut on the mission, Jeremy Hansen, he has a quote where he says, It's plausible that we can't talk to Earth and we're having trouble with the spacecraft. What are the bare basics to give us a fighting chance and still be breathing and to hit somewhere on the planet and ideally hit the Pacific Ocean?

1:23:09Obviously, I've had that conversation with my wife and children. There are a lot of firsts on this mission. Some that freak a lot of people out. Some that have candid conversations going on with families. Walk people through kind of what those firsts are and how you prepare for them. Well, you have to realize there's an awful lot of energy being put into the vehicle. When you have a 6 million pound vehicle being pushed at 8.8 million pounds of thrust, that's a lot of energy. There's always going to be some risk with that. And then getting so far away from home and being able to get back, there's challenges there too.

1:23:46But you know everybody who's worked on the vehicle. You know the people who put it together. My company actually supported Lockheed Martin building the Orion vehicle that they're going to be riding in. So we all feel like we have a stake in this, and it's a team effort. You all work together to minimize the risk as much as you can. As the least, I know the least about space of anybody on the show team at the lead, which, by the way, is a very, very high bar, I found. So that doesn't mean I don't know anything. We just are all brilliant and very interested in it. What's the one thing people need to know about kind of what this sets off for the potential of being back on the moon?

1:24:25Well, so the administrator now has brought a lot of excitement back to NASA with his idea that we're going to change and put people on the moon to stay and having that capability. This is step number one to make that happen. You got to take that first step. And here we are ready to go. Scott, Scooter, Altman, I'm ready. All right. Let's go. I appreciate it. You can follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead CNN. If you ever miss an episode of The Lead, you can watch the show on the CNN app. Aaron Bernardo up front starts right now.

1:25:23There's a growing category of products aimed specifically at addressing women's unique health needs. These tools and services are sometimes known as femtech, and they can provide big opportunities and benefits, but they can also come with some risks. To walk us through all of this, I spoke with Bethany Corbin. Bethany is an attorney and CEO of Fem Innovation, where she advises startups, clinicians, and health care organizations. In my opinion, what it really does is gives us a collective language to talk about women's health care innovation and the tools that are out there so that we can take control of our health care experiences and know how to advocate for ourselves in a system that's probably not been designed to advocate for us.

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