In short
Breaking news coverage of catastrophic flash floods and mudslides along the Nepal–China border, plus pop-culture and other U.S. news segments.
Guests (named in the transcript)
Sevier County Mayor Larry Waters (Tennessee; grew up in the area; knew Dolly Parton since grade school). Chris Thiele (Grammy-winning mandolin player; founding member of Nickel Creek and Punch Brothers; played mandolin for Parton for a couple years). Democratic Sen. Chris Coons (Delaware; U.S. Senate committees including Foreign Relations, Appropriations, Judiciary; discusses China cyber espionage). Former Gov./Rep. Mark Sanford (South Carolina; comments on GOP Senate runoff). CNN investigative reporter Isabel Chapman (host of “Civilian or Spy” series; discusses FBI-related case). CNN Weather/analysis: Allison Chinchar (weather cause analysis). CNN reporter Jean Casares (Lindsey Clancy trial updates). CNN’s Will Ripley (Nepal rescue reporting). CNN’s Jennifer Hansler (State Department response). Dr. Greg Nicandry and Suchi Saria (AI sepsis monitor; Strong Memorial/Johns Hopkins).
Key claims
Floods likely triggered by a glacier/ice-rock avalanche jamming a river; river rose ~30 feet in ~30 minutes; at least 157 dead in Nepal; hundreds missing including ~47 Americans; China mudslide killed 3 and left 250+ missing. AI sepsis monitor flags sepsis ~5.7 hours earlier for many patients; shown 20–30% relative mortality reduction. DOJ alleges Chinese cyber campaign infiltrated military, hospitals, power, and federal agencies.
Notable examples
Bus video of floodwaters rushing toward a bridge; mudslide engulfing a border land port; helicopter rooftop rescues; Dolly Parton’s Imagination Library (books since 1995) and Sevier County “buddy” program; Lindsey Clancy testimony about controlled actions vs postpartum psychosis; FDA-cleared continuous AI sepsis monitoring at Strong Memorial.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VORemembering Dolly Parton
1:46 to 5:48
Explore the life and impact of Dolly Parton following her passing.
“Millions continue to mourn the late, great Dolly Parton, who died yesterday at the age of 80.”
Community Memories and Impact
5:48 to 9:52
Hear personal stories from those who knew Dolly Parton and her contributions.
“The world truly didn't deserve Dolly Parton.”
Tribute to Tim Curry
9:52 to 11:40
A brief reflection on the life and career of Tim Curry after his passing.
“And like I say, her legacy will live on.”
Continuing Coverage of the Floods
11:40 to 14:00
Updates on the ongoing search and rescue efforts in Nepal and China.
“And when we're back, more of the breaking news, that wall of water rushing through Nepal and China.”
Devastating Floods in Nepal
14:00 to 17:11
Explore the catastrophic impact of flooding in Nepal and China, including eyewitness accounts and scientific insights.
“In what appears to be about 20 seconds on video, the flood consumes everything in its path.”
Legal Battles in Minnesota and Texas
17:11 to 18:28
Understand the legal complexities surrounding an ICE agent's extradition and the implications of the Lindsay Clancy trial.
“CNN reporter who was in the courtroom will join me next.”
Closing Arguments in the Clancy Trial
18:28 to 21:54
Delve into the final arguments of the high-profile trial of Lindsay Clancy and the psychological factors at play.
“The Massachusetts mother accused of deliberately killing her three children in 2023.”
AI Technology in Sepsis Detection
21:54 to 24:58
Learn about groundbreaking AI technology approved by the FDA to detect sepsis early, potentially saving thousands of lives.
“How AI technology could save thousands of lives lost every year to sepsis.”
Personal Tragedy Drives Innovation
24:58 to 28:01
Hear the personal story of a developer whose family tragedy motivated the creation of life-saving sepsis technology.
“And a few days later, I get a call saying they're in the hospital and the doctor mentioned sepsis.”
Suchi's Mission Against Sepsis
28:01 to 28:31
Learn about Suchi's determination to prevent sepsis-related deaths.
“For Suchi, she's driven by her determination to make it so that another family doesn't have to lose a loved one to sepsis.”
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Chinese Cyber Espionage Campaign Exposed
28:38 to 29:15
U.S. officials unveil a major Chinese hacking operation targeting various sectors.
“So what's the argument now from Republicans who did not?”
Senator Coons Discusses Cybersecurity Threats
29:15 to 31:12
Senator Chris Coons addresses the risks posed by Chinese cyber activities.
“The Justice Department says hackers hid behind a Chinese tech firm to cover their tracks, infecting thousands of devices connected to Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.”
Issues with USS Deployment and Transparency
31:12 to 33:28
Discussion on the lack of transparency regarding naval deployments and conditions.
“And frankly, with our president and our national security leadership distracted by the war of choice that they've launched against Iran six months ago, I suspect they see us as a more easy target now.”
Republican Win in South Carolina Senate Race
33:28 to 38:44
Analysis of the implications of Senator Darlene Graham's victory and Trump's influence.
“Senator Chris Coons, keep us posted if you hear from the DOJ or the Defense Department on both issues we just discussed.”
Ben Sasse's Cancer Treatment Breakthrough
38:44 to 40:08
Former Senator Ben Sasse shares insights on an innovative drug for pancreatic cancer.
“Former South Carolina Congressman and Governor Mark Sanford, thank you for the time.”
Devastating Floods in Nepal and China
42:00 to 45:07
Learn about the catastrophic flooding in Nepal and China and its impacts.
“Rescue teams across the region are struggling through debris, rain and mud to try to reach those still stranded.”
US Response to the Crisis
45:07 to 46:20
Discover how the US government is responding to the disaster and missing Americans.
“Looks like something out of a terrible sci-fi film.”
Landslide Causes and Effects
46:20 to 48:54
Understand the geological causes behind the floods and landslides in the region.
“officials are working on right now is potentially providing humanitarian assistance.”
Visual Impact of the Disaster
48:54 to 50:01
See the destruction caused by the floods through dramatic visual footage.
“So we zoom in here to kind of give you a general layout of these neighboring towns that are here.”
Tribute to Dolly Parton
50:01 to 56:04
Reflect on the life and legacy of Dolly Parton through stories of those who worked with her.
“Well, the size of the memorial is growing at the Dolly Parton statue in her hometown of Sevierville, Tennessee, where crowds are paying their respects to the country music icon and philanthropist.”
Dolly Parton's Inspiring Message
56:04 to 56:28
A discussion reflecting on Dolly Parton's impact and a personal anecdote.
“out there and make a difference, bring a little beauty into the world.”
Canada's Tariffs and Trade War Implications
56:28 to 1:00:32
Analyzing Canada's tariffs against U.S. goods and their economic impact.
“We're breaking down how this growing trade war could impact the prices that you and your family are paying.”
Legal Challenges to Mail-in Voting Rules
1:00:32 to 1:04:12
A.G. Letitia James discusses legal actions regarding mail-in voting.
“Windsor, Ontario Mayor Drew Dilkins, thank you for the time.”
Meta's Landmark Settlement for Child Protection
1:04:12 to 1:06:45
Exploring the implications of Meta's $18 billion settlement for young users.
“And we know millions of Americans, Democrats, Republicans, including the president, vote by mail.”
Trump's Midterm Campaign Strategy
1:06:45 to 1:10:03
Discussing Trump’s advertising strategy and its potential effects.
“New York Attorney General Letitia James, thank you for the time.”
Political Insights on Health Care and Elections
1:10:03 to 1:11:39
Discussion on the political landscape surrounding health care and election strategies.
“Gun control, government-run health care, abortion until the moment of birth.”
Debate on Health Care Messaging
1:11:40 to 1:14:08
Analysis of differing health care perspectives and the political implications.
“What she said there was that her health care plan is you should work hard until you die.”
Presidential Focus on Cultural Issues
1:14:09 to 1:15:05
Critique of the president's focus on cultural issues instead of pressing economic concerns.
“So let me ask another issue that some Republicans would say is malpractice for the president to continue to pursue.”
Evyatar David's Harrowing Experience
1:15:22 to 1:19:53
Evyatar shares his traumatic experience as a hostage and his recovery journey.
“In his first international interview, we're hearing from Evyatar David, the former Israeli hostage seen around the world in shocking images that showed him severely emaciated and being forced to dig his own grave.”
Life After Captivity: Celebrations and Recovery
1:19:54 to 1:20:54
Evyatar speaks about his recovery, celebrations of life, and upcoming speaking engagements.
“For Evyatar, each celebration of life's milestones now represents victory.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02This is CNN Breaking News. And welcome to The Lead. I'm Diana Golodryka. In for Jake Tapper, we begin with breaking news and the disturbing images which have shocked the world today. A massive wall of water sweeping through valleys and towns along the Nepal-China border with deadly consequences. An urgent search is now underway for those killed, injured or still missing after the torrent of flash floods and mudflies tore through the region.
0:36This terrifying video taken from the back of a bus captures the fear of passengers as floodwaters rush toward a bridge. At least 157 people are confirmed killed in Nepal and hundreds of tourists are missing, including 47 Americans.
0:59Take a look at this more shocking video from a hillside captured the devastating floodwaters raging through villages in Nepal, taking entire bridges with the current. And in China, mudslides engulfed a land port that connects the Chinese and Nepali border. State media says three people were killed and more than 250 are missing. A landslide, possibly caused by a part of a glacier shearing off, is believed to be the cause of the devastation. Rescue helicopters are struggling to land amid the debris and high water. India, the Red Cross, and the World Health Organization are sending key emergency supplies and funding, while Europe and the U.S.
1:39say they're prepared to mobilize. We'll have much more on this story ahead in the hour. But first, the pop culture lead. Millions continue to mourn the late, great Dolly Parton, who died yesterday at the age of 80. Her publicist revealing that she died after a brief battle with cancer. To grasp her impact as a songwriter, a humanitarian, and a human being, Just look at the countless tributes from people from all ends of the political spectrum, from different generations, even from other countries. The King's Royal Guard honoring Dolly outside Buckingham Palace today.
2:23In one spot on the map, the grieving literally hits home. Dolly's home state of Tennessee. CNN's Jason Carroll is in Sevier County, Tennessee, where Dolly Parton grew up. Jason, Dolly grew up to be larger. The old adage, the show must go on. And here in Dollywood, the theme park that she created, nestled in Sevier County where she grew up, it does go on. It was open today and filled with fans to share how she had touched their lives, even in the smallest of ways. My grandpa swears Dolly Parton winked at him when they saw her back in like the 70s. And my grandma will deny it to this day, but she'll behind his back say she really did wink at him.
3:09It's well known Parton was a prolific songwriter and singer. But here in these parts, she is just as well known for how she gave back to her community. Not uncommon to hear from adults who remember getting free books as children, thanks to Parton's literacy program, Imagination Library, which she started in 1995. I got her books growing up as a child. Promotion of education. The Imagination Library. You get one every month. A book every month. I still read them. Millions of children received books all because Parton's father could not read or write. And Parton, who grew up very poor, wanted to make sure children learned to love reading, regardless of income.
3:52Her philanthropic efforts didn't end there. In 1991, she created a buddy program in Sevier County to improve school dropout rates. You get a buddy, you pick your buddy, and if you and your buddy make it through high school, she gives you$500 each. David Ware was one of those recipients. He later became mayor and now city manager of Pigeon Forge, the small town next to Parton's hometown, Severville. Then years later, here I am getting to work with her on the government. Can you tell me what it was like working with her? She was, so everybody knows Dolly on stage. Everybody knows Dolly in the interviews.
4:26She's so wonderful. She's so charismatic, witty, gritty, resourceful, funny. She's larger than life. Folks around here say just about everyone has a Dolly story. Once that I came in, she accepted me just like I'd been around her my whole career. Pigeon Ford's police chief used to help with Parton's security team. He says she was genuine, down-to-earth, and had a good sense of humor. Trying to make the best working conditions over there that she could. I'm wondering how you think she might be remembered. I told her one time that she's larger than Elvis. Oh, you told her she was larger than Elvis.
5:01She just kind of laughed that off, said there was no way. Humor, grace, generosity. In honor of her life, flowers and cards left at a makeshift memorial at her statue in her hometown, all to honor a woman embraced by the world, but someone who never lost touch with the place that shaped who she was. And you know, as sad as people are out here, especially here at Dollywood, all of those that we spoke to, the minute we brought up her name, there was just a smile on everyone's face. Each person that we interviewed just started to smile when they started to remember something about Dolly Parton. And that really speaks to who Dolly Parton was and what type of impact she had on so many people.
5:46Back to you. How lucky we all were to have her for these 80 years. The world truly didn't deserve Dolly Parton. Jason Carroll, live from Dollywood, Tennessee. Thank you. And joining me now, Sevier County Mayor Larry Waters. He was born and raised in this area and knew Dolly Parton since grade school. Mr. Mayor, thank you so much for joining us. I know this has got to be tough for you and your community. How are you doing today? And what is the mood like as everyone is mourning their neighbor and your friend, Dolly Parton? It's certainly a somber mood. I'm sitting here looking at her statue, and there's literally hundreds of people have come by and left flowers and a tribute to her.
6:33And it's somber, but a lot of good memories of Dolly. And we all know that her legacy is going to live on because of her music and, as importantly, because of her generosity and so many causes that she did over the years. You know, she loved these mountains and she loved the people in these mountains. And she talked about it everywhere she went. She never forgot where she came from and was so proud of that community. And she did so much for Sevier County through Dollywood, donations, just staying connected with the community. Talk about that impact and what else she did that we may not even know about.
7:16Oh, yeah, she was always doing something in Sevier County. She just recently helped fund an expansion of our senior center. We have a women's unit at our local hospital. It's the Dolly Parton Center. You know, when we had the devastating fires in 2016, it was Dolly that stepped up and said, I'm going to give the people there some money to get back on their feet and help them be resilient and come back. By giving them, for several months, he'd give anybody that was devastated$10 ,000. She did a similar thing for the Hurricane Helene victims, and she was always doing something for the community here, the community that she loved and grew up with, and that she talked about the Smokies, and she had those values of mountain people that she kept with her all her life.
8:20I knew her all her life, and she was the same three weeks ago as she was in high school. That vibrant personality, funny, loved life, loved people, and she never changed. And that's difficult to do when you get to the level of fame that she did in this world, but she was able to stay grounded. That was her superpower. She never changed. She was so authentic. Mr. Mayor, is there a memory that you have of Dolly Parton that sticks with you at this moment? Oh, yeah. Growing up, her aunt and uncle lived close to where I lived. And my grandfather, who was a Baptist minister, and her grandfather was a minister as well, she'd go home on the school bus occasionally.
9:11And I remember when most folks would get off the school bus, my grandfather would say, Dolly, you've got to sing me a gospel song. You have a beautiful voice. And she'd sing him a gospel song. And I remember my grandfather saying when we'd get home, he'd say, now there's somebody that's going to go far in life because she has a beautiful voice and a beautiful personality. So I cherish those days and remember them and remember them with a smile because that was the Dolly Parton that I knew all my life. And boy, was he right. Your grandfather sure knew talent when he saw it. Sevier County, Tennessee Mayor Larry Waters, thank you.
9:52Thank you. And like I say, her legacy will live on. and that gives us all comfort, the legacy of the beautiful song she had and the generosity and her spirit that she had of loving people. And we can all take comfort in that no matter where we are in the world. Amen. Mr. Mayor, thank you. And another devastating loss, British actor and singer Tim Curry died Tuesday, also at the age of 80. His publicist said Curry passed away peacefully at his home in Los Angeles. Curry rose to fame in the 70s with his unforgettable performance in Dr. Frankenfurter in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I see you shiver with anticipation.
10:42The three-time Tony nominee later played Butler Wadsworth in the 1985 murder mystery Clue. Sprinting through the mansion hallways delivering rapid monologues, Curry said the role drove his blood pressure so high that he had to visit a company nurse. Curry also terrified audiences in 1990 as a demonic clown, Pennywise, in the miniseries based on Stephen King's horror novel, It. Kiss me, fat boy!
11:15Two years later, Curry appeared as the suspicious hotel concierge in the holiday classic Home Alone 2. And how are we this morning? Fine. Is my transportation here? Out in front, sir. A limousine and a pizza. Curry's cause of death was not disclosed, although he faced health challenges since suffering a stroke in 2012. May his memory be a blessing. And when we're back, more of the breaking news, that wall of water rushing through Nepal and China. See the very moment people seem to sense that danger was on the way. And later, what U.S. officials are revealing about a major cyber spy operation that tapped into hospitals, power companies and federal agencies.
12:10In 2024, a man was killed by the FBI. And to this day, the authorities have refused to say why. He was a father, an ex-husband, and a Russian-born American citizen. He just seemed like a lonely guy, and he needed a friend. And he kind of talked about death, didn't he? He talked about, you just never know when it's your time. I'm CNN investigative reporter Isabel Chapman, Host of the new limited series, Civilian or Spy. They noticed that he was communicating with people that were of concern to the FBI. Oh my God, Jesus. Head over to the CNN Presents feed and listen to our three-part series, Civilian or Spy, available wherever you get your podcasts.
12:59And we're back with the breaking news. Search and rescue efforts are continuing overnight with 11 teams in Nepal, according to the Prime Minister's office. The death toll is continuing to rise after floodwaters ripped along its border with China engulfing entire villages, leading to a mudslide eliminating everything in its way. CNN's Will Ripley takes us through just some of the dramatic moments. A bridge snaps before being swept away as floodwater pours into Nepal's Trishuli River. Video shared on social media shows people running and riding away on motorbikes, realizing how little time they have to get to safety.
13:39At this Himalayan border crossing, people on the street could probably hear the danger coming before they could see it. A recently rebuilt, earthquake-resistant building blocked their view of the monster wall of water until it was too late. From this view, you can see the floodwaters' ferocious speed and massive scale. people desperately running for their lives have nowhere safe to go. In what appears to be about 20 seconds on video, the flood consumes everything in its path. A row of buses, a four-story building, a bridge, gone, buried beneath a black wall of water. From the air, a helicopter pilot watches the disaster race through the valleys below, sweeping away homes, trees, and roads.
14:23The whole scenario, it was horrendous. It was uncanny. anything like you've ever seen before. On this bus in Nepal, passengers spot the giant waves crashing into the bridge behind them.
14:38The streets are full of people trying to get away. Panic fills the bus as passengers look out the windows at the horror unfolding.
14:49In the same town, from the safety of a hillside temple, people watch helplessly as the deluge of dark water breaks apart a bridge like a toy, dragging it downstream. This video from the Nepal Red Cross captures the speed and strength of the water, whipping around cars and tearing down power lines in its path. The flood came crashing down from high in the Himalayas. Scientists at Kathmandu University believe an avalanche of ice and rock may have blocked a river until the water broke through. A torrent of water, mud, and debris forcing its way downstream, submerging or destroying buildings, tearing villages apart.
15:32Mile after mile of these majestic mountain valleys, a dark scar carved into the landscape. Foreign tourists, including Americans, are among the missing. At this vital land gateway between China and Nepal, the mudslide ripped apart roads, knocking out power and communications, leaving communities on both sides of the border. cut off. On the ground, people get their first look at what little the flood left behind. And amid the horror, hope, a helicopter makes a daring rooftop rescue, one of many in the hours and days ahead.
16:12Rescues are particularly difficult in some of these areas because of how treacherous it is to get there. Of course, so many roads are cut off, so you can only reach certain areas by air, it is probably optimistic. Sources on the ground are saying that the number of missing will remain only in the hundreds. Just by looking at the video, Biana, and just seeing how ferocious those waves were, how huge they were in comparison to those buildings. You know, a helicopter pilot above was saying they were at least 50 to 20 feet high. But then when you put in all that debris in the mud and the rock and the cars and the buildings that were kind of accumulating as it was just pummeling through the canyons there.
16:50You can see how the water just got higher and higher and higher going over those buildings. Scientists are looking into the possible connection to a 4.4 magnitude earthquake in the area that may have had something to do with this ice and rock avalanche, but obviously a lot of unanswered questions and most importantly, a lot of people missing at this hour. I've never seen anything like that. Those poor, poor people. Will Ripley, thank you. Well, breaking news. Why a judge today is refusing to step into a legal fight between Minnesota and Texas all over the fate of an ICE agent accused of shooting an immigrant in Minneapolis and the moment setting the tone for tomorrow's closing arguments in the Lindsay Clancy trial.
17:32CNN reporter who was in the courtroom will join me next.
17:42Breaking news in our law and justice lead. The state of Texas does not need to hand over an ICE agent in its custody to Minnesota. A federal judge today said he lacked authority in a lawsuit brought by Minnesota to force Texas Governor Greg Abbott to extradite Christian Castro. Castro faces charges in Minnesota over the shooting of Julio Sosceles during an ICE operation in Minneapolis earlier this year. The judge said since Abbott has not yet decided whether to hand agent Castro over to Minnesota, he can't make him do so. Castro is eligible to be released from Texas custody as early as tomorrow.
18:18And Minnesota officials have said he could be a flight risk. And in our law and justice lead, closing arguments are expected tomorrow in the trial of Lindsey Clancy. The Massachusetts mother accused of deliberately killing her three children in 2023. Clancy's defense argues she's not criminally responsible for the deaths because she was suffering from postpartum psychosis. CNN's Jean Casares was in the courtroom again today. Jean, what stood out as testimony came to a close? I think in the courtroom, it was the jury. They were so focused after so many hours of testimony, so many hours of expert testimony.
18:57They just, their focus was on the witness, the final witness for the prosecution. I think also that it's now really, I think, solidified. The defense is going to focus on the big picture. The big picture of postpartum depression, which went into, from anxiety to ultimately a bipolar disorder, and then finally psychosis on that day. But the prosecution is going to be narrowly focused on the actions, the definitive and demonstrative action she did on that day. The witness today, the final witness, is from the FBI, the Behavioral Analysis Unit, focused in on the fact that when the commanding voice told her to kill her children, they did not describe how to do it, where to do it, when to do it.
19:43Those were the decisions of Lindsey Clancy. I want you to listen to his testimony about the decisions she made on January 24, 2023. she was able to drive to the pediatrician's office and then back
20:04and the day was really one of significant control the activities that she engaged in that day spending time with her children with play-doh taking them outside to to build a snowman sending photographs of the children to her mother, to her husband on Instagram, fixing lunch and also fixing dinner for the children. So the activities of that day were controlled.
20:43The defense focused in on many things, but one thing was when Patrick Clancy got home that night, found his wife on the ground. His testimony was, he said, what happened? She said, I tried to commit suicide. The defense questioned on cross saying, you heard the 911 tape, didn't you? You listened to it. Did you hear her say any words? He admitted that he didn't. And Jean, what should we expect from closing arguments? Well, we know there's going to be first degree murder, second degree murder charge, manslaughter charge going to the jury. And that would be a conviction, even though it's manslaughter.
21:21And then also not guilty by reason of lack of criminal responsibility. But there are three victims in this case. They cannot be forgotten. These lives are important. We're talking about Cora, Dawson, Callan, and the jury will have to take each charge and select guilty, not guilty, for each child individually. It's a heartbreaking story. You'll be in the courtroom for the closing arguments. Jean Casares, thank you. Up next, a first of its kind for AI, getting a sign-off from the FDA. How AI technology could save thousands of lives lost every year to sepsis.
22:09Now to our series, AI, friend or foe? and a remarkable new technology that could save the lives of thousands of Americans suffering from sepsis, a dangerous medical emergency caused by the body's extreme response to an infection. It impacts nearly 2 million Americans every year. Jake Tapper spoke with a developer of the first continuous AI sepsis monitor granted FDA clearance. Inside the University of Rochester's Strong Memorial Hospital, a groundbreaking new artificial intelligence is giving doctors and nurses a new early warning that a patient is developing sepsis, a serious medical emergency that can turn deadly in just hours and takes the lives of more than 350 ,000 people in the United States every year.
22:59It's a leading cause of hospital admission, a leading cause of hospital readmission, and we know about 80 % of cases are likely preventable. Dr. Greg Nicandry is the chief medical information officer at Strong Memorial, one of more than 40 hospitals now utilizing the technology. What we've learned with this tool is that it actually identifies the potential for sepsis before the clinician kind of is cued into that. This patient's had a firing for sepsis. The AI reads constantly changing patient data in real time to alert swamped medical staff as to subtle warning signs of sepsis. It's hard to be 24-7 paying attention to every patient.
23:44And what's hard about sepsis is there's a lot of other things that mimic individual markers. This is Suchi Saria, a Johns Hopkins professor and the developer of the AI system. The AI is running in the background for every patient, analyzing all of the data. So not just the text data or the text notes, but their labs, their vitals, their clinical history, the medications, the treatments. We were able to show at Hopkins patients who died over a multi-year period across several of our hospitals. In the background, when we ran the system, more than half the patients were being identified 5.7 hours earlier.
24:22These were patients who were the system who died. Right. 5.7 hours is life or death. More than half. Yeah, exactly. Do you know that it has saved lives? Oh, yeah, absolutely. We've shown in sepsis 20 to 30 percent relative reduction in mortality. That's huge. Saving lives that would otherwise be lost to sepsis is a deeply personal mission for Suchi. In 2017, while just beginning her research, she lost her nephew, Nikunj, to sepsis. Tell me about your nephew. That one's so sad because he was young, like 20s, recently married, had just gone out at night for a party with his wife and comes back the next day is not feeling well in the hospital.
25:06And a few days later, I get a call saying they're in the hospital and the doctor mentioned sepsis. They didn't even know anything about sepsis. And they were like, you do a lot of work in sepsis. You should know something about it. But he was already, you know, it was unfortunately already very, very late. Like he was in deep septic shock and then he didn't survive. But that tragedy pushed you towards sepsis? That tragedy is what got me to go from my research to forming Bayesian. Bayesian Health is the Johns Hopkins University spinoff enterprise that's now trying to bring this life-saving technology to hospitals across the country.
25:42A lot of my early research was funded by National Science Foundation. And if it weren't for their funding, this wouldn't have happened. That early funding now has the potential to benefit thousands of American families, families like my own. I was left for 32 hours in the hospital without a sepsis diagnosis. I ended up in the ICU. In November 2021, my then 14-year-old daughter Alice nearly died because she was misdiagnosed. Ultimately, she developed sepsis and her body started going into, I think it's called anaphylactic shock, where the organs in her body started shutting down because of sepsis.
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26:21Now, how would this AI have helped her back in 2021 if it had existed? In her case, it sounds like there were a whole set of signs that easily the system would have caught. Her temperature was rising. Her heart rate was rising. She was breathing heavily. Her white blood cell count was amazing. Her white blood cell count was very high. And I'm so happy that she's fine. But there were just so many signs. I think it was almost, in her case, it seemed like almost 14 to 18 hours earlier would be obvious to the machine. Suchi gave me a demonstration of how her AI program works. Doctors and nurses are always looking at this thing called the patient list.
27:01They want to know who are the patients in the unit, where are they, what's happening, some high-level information. And then we embed information within it. And you can see this patient. Oh, there's the sepsis flag chart. Yes. There are different views they can go to that gives a sense for what's going on with this patient, why this patient was flagged, what's anomalous, culling data from this past encounter, looking at it over time, looking at all sorts of other events that are related, which then makes it very easy. In 30 seconds, they can look at it and either disagree or agree. And these in red are the reasons why the sepsis alert has gone off?
27:34Yeah, we flagged reasons for concern that we want them to look at it more carefully. Okay. How often does a sepsis alert go off and they don't have sepsis? Sepsis is like what's called a needle in a haystack condition, which means in about 100 patients, maybe two patients will have sepsis. What our system shows is that in that very, very difficult scenario, we basically flag one out of every two or one out of every three flags are correct. And that's extremely hard to do. For Suchi, she's driven by her determination to make it so that another family doesn't have to lose a loved one to sepsis. It took everything out of me to get here.
28:11And it's been so rewarding to know that, like, at least I'm doing my little bit to make a difference. A common thing I tell my team is people will ask me, well, why are you doing this? And I'm like, well, I need this to be in every hospital in America. The second it's in every hospital in America, I can take a vacation. And that'll feel so good. Jake Tapper, CNN, Baltimore, Maryland. Thanks to Jake Tapper for that fascinating report. Up next, a big win for Republican Senator Darlene Graham and President Trump who endorsed her. So what's the argument now from Republicans who did not? I'll ask one after the break.
28:56In our world lead, U.S. officials say they exposed and disrupted a major Chinese cyber espionage campaign. Chinese hackers infiltrated the U.S. military, hospitals, power companies and federal agencies, including NASA, the Federal Reserve and the Departments of Justice and Energy and even the Senate. The Justice Department says hackers hid behind a Chinese tech firm to cover their tracks, infecting thousands of devices connected to Wi-Fi or Bluetooth. Joining us now is Democratic Senator Chris Coons from Delaware. He's on the Foreign Relations, Appropriations and Judiciary Committee. Senator, good to have you on.
29:34This is quite alarming, and an analyst tells CNN that he guarantees China will try to hack U.S. agencies or businesses again. is the U.S. behind the eight ball on cybersecurity? Yes, we need to be doing more to invest in protecting our national infrastructure. And frankly, while alarming, this is in no way surprising. China has over and over infiltrated our core infrastructure. There was a major attack months ago now that's known under the name Salt Typhoon, through which they got into most of the core of our telecommunication systems. And this latest attack is just another example of how the Chinese Communist Party, the People's Liberation Army, and the PRC government is over and over attempting to infiltrate our systems, sometimes successfully.
30:29And the hack, as I noted, apparently targeted the U.S. Senate as well. Has the Justice Department contacted you or your office with steps to secure your own cyber operations? No, they have not, at least not that I'm aware of. And you would think I'd be aware of that. I do regularly get phishing attacks, texts or emails that seem to be from friends of mine, but aren't, that are from an area code similar to my hometown, that are from an email that seems like it's a bank I know or a friend of mine. But frankly, I think millions of Americans face similar attacks every day. We need to be on the cutting edge of protecting our nation from these and other attacks.
31:13And frankly, with our president and our national security leadership distracted by the war of choice that they've launched against Iran six months ago, I suspect they see us as a more easy target now. So it's important that we focus on our most significant adversary in the world, which is the PRC. And I would certainly expect that President Trump, as he is seeking a meeting with Xi Jinping, raises this issue, pushes back on it, and cautions Xi Jinping, the leader of China, that they need to stop these relentless attacks on the United States. So you don't know if you've been attacked at all? I don't.
31:56I haven't received any notice personally, directly, or that I'm aware of to my office. Well, hopefully someone will be in touch with you soon. I want to turn to the Department of Defense because I know you and your colleague, Senator Patty Murray, sent a letter to Secretary Pete Hegseth and Acting Navy Secretary Hong Kao urging transparency and an investigation into the USS Lincoln, the USS Ford and the USS Benfold deployments. The Benfold experienced a previously undisclosed days-long power outage. Your deadline for answers is September 1st. Have you heard anything back on this issue? I have not, and frankly, I'm not surprised.
32:37Secretary Hegseth and the leadership of the department have not been particularly responsive to a number of my requests for them to be transparent about the operational issues that the Pentagon and our armed forces are having under his leadership. As many of your viewers know, the sailors of the USS Lincoln have gone more than eight months without any port leave, and their parents and family members complained publicly about sailors on that aircraft carrier attempting to leap off because the conditions were so bad. And as you just mentioned, there are other press accounts of a loss of power on the South China Sea and other conditions on the other aircraft carrier that I think deserve a prompt and full airing so that the families and loved ones of those who are serving our nation in our armed forces, in this case in our Navy, know that we are working together to provide them the support, the resources and the conditions they need to serve admirably and well in defense of our nation.
33:43Senator Chris Coons, keep us posted if you hear from the DOJ or the Defense Department on both issues we just discussed. Thank you. Well, now to our politics lead. A significant win for President Trump and his endorsement power out of South Carolina's Republican Senate runoff. Senator Darlene Graham securing the nomination, defeating Congressman Ralph Norman by more than 18 ,000 votes. The sister of the late Senator Lindsey Graham will now face a Democratic nominee, Dr. Annie Andrews in November. Joining us now is a former Republican candidate in this race, former Congressman and Governor of South Carolina, Mark Sanford.
34:20Thanks for joining us. So you endorsed Graham's opponent, Ralph Norman, just days before this runoff. Will you now throw your support behind Senator Darlene Graham since she's won? Yeah, I mean, all of us signed a pledge in getting into the race that we would support whoever the eventual Republican nominee turned out to be. So I'll certainly honor my pledge. But I think it's a decidedly weird race, the likes of which I've never seen during my time in politics in South Carolina. How so? Other than the fact that sadly her brother died unexpectedly. No, Lindsay was a friend. I've known him for years.
34:59We started in politics together. That part's tragic. But I just think that it was sort of a barometer on two fronts, both of which are unsettling. One was, in every other race I've been around, you have an agenda. I'm running for these three reasons, or these two reasons, or this is the bee in my bonnet that really bothers me. And you didn't hear that in this race. It was just absolute silence on that front, other than that she would, again, be an ally of the presidents. The other part I think is unsettling is what you You see, I guess, with all these midterm turnouts and in special elections, which is a very low turnout.
35:39And the fact that, you know, roughly 10 percent or so of all the voter pool out there turns out whether that is in New York City was a mayor or whether it's here in South Carolina. I think it leads to basically saying something about the populace, which is a lot of people are so sort of downtrodden and turned out from politics that they say, I can't make a difference. I'm not going to bother voting. And so we end up with some, again, unusual situations. Well, in her victory speech last night, Graham thanked one particular person. Take a listen. I want to thank President Trump for all of his support and his endorsement.
36:20Our victory would not have been possible without you. And we are truly grateful.
36:28South Carolina is truly Trump country. Now, as we've noted, Graham did defeat Ralph Norman by more than 18 ,000 votes. But is she right? Is South Carolina right now truly Trump country? And is he the reason she won? I think she's definitely the reason that she won. He's definitely the reason that she won. I mean, he did something very unusual for him, which is to unload$800 ,000 in this race. There were roughly about$6 million worth of different special interest groups honing in on this race and spending a lot of money. So it was a well-spent and well-contested race. And yeah, I mean, there's no way that you would have made it without him.
37:18Are we Trump territory? I mean, as it relates to this race, yes, absolutely. But I think that the bigger point is the one I made earlier, which is most people just feel that Washington does not have the answers and they've given up. And so you look at the crisis of affordability, a young person's ability to buy a home or put gas in the car or food on the table. A lot of people are just saying, you know, I give up. And I find that very, very unsettling in terms of our Democratic traditions and process. Do you think that applies, that sentiment applies to both Republicans and Democrats? Does that sentiment favor Democrats or the Democrat in this race in the general election?
38:02I don't know. I mean, it's a decidedly red state that I live in and call home. So I don't think it favors the Democrat in this instance. I just think it's an observation of how I think we end up from away from where the sort of vast majority of folks are, whether that's, again, with the mayor in New York or in this case with sort of an unusual election. I mean, whether you like Ralph or not, he absolutely had the normal conservative credentials that typically in the past have mattered in a Republican primary. That ultimately did not prevail in this instance. Former South Carolina Congressman and Governor Mark Sanford, thank you for the time.
38:49Ahead, Ben Sass and his terminal cancer diagnosis. What the former senator recently told Jake Tapper about an experimental drug that is now FDA approved.
39:08And the health lead, the FDA approving what some call a miracle drug for adults with metastatic pancreatic cancer. It's made by Revolution Medicine and comes in a once daily pill form. It's the same drug former U.S. Senator Ben Sasse used in its clinical trial. Sasse recently spoke with Jake Tapper about how it works. This rock star researcher who was one of the co-founders of Revolutions Medicine had the idea that maybe you find a way to take molecular glue and glue your chaperone molecule to the pancreatic cancer and you create a crevice and you lock the drug in there. and then they experimented with 500 molecules and they found one, this diraxin or acid drug.
39:54And all of a sudden, pancreatic cancer is a little bit responsive. The drug you're taking, it's essentially poisoning the cancer in you? And so over the course of the five months I've been on this drug, my tumors have shrunk by 80%. Wow. Now, this is great news, but not ultimate news because tumors find a way to work their way around chemo over time. The American Cancer Society puts a survival rate for pancreatic cancer at just 13%, one of the lowest among major cancers.
40:29All right, welcome to The Lead. I'm Biana Golodryga. This hour, unbelievable scenes of destruction after a massive wall of water crashed into parts of Nepal. Villages reduced to a pile of mud. More than 150 killed, hundreds of others, including 47 Americans, are still missing. What we've learned about the cause of this catastrophe and the rescue efforts ongoing tonight. Plus, major changes coming soon to Instagram and Facebook after Meta agreed to an$18 billion settlement. The deal ending a legal battle over claims the social media platforms harmed the mental health of children and teens. We'll walk you through the changes Meta agreed to make.
41:10Also, the tributes from around the world, from every walk of life, from every political party, showing just how much Dolly Parton transcended music. We're reflecting on that legacy with a musician who had the honor of taking the stage with her. Ahead, and also a new phase in the confusing legal battle over President Trump's efforts to limit mail-in voting. We're just over two months away from the midterm, so how soon could this get resolved? I'll ask the New York Attorney General.
41:45I'm Viana Goldriga in for Jake Tapper. The lead tonight, critical search and rescue efforts are underway tonight in Nepal after devastating flash floods and mudslides along the border of China. Hundreds of tourists in Nepal, including nearly 50 Americans, are missing. More than 150 are confirmed dead. Rescue teams across the region are struggling through debris, rain and mud to try to reach those still stranded. In Nepal, entire bridges were swept away and villages were submerged when the initial surge of floodwater began. And in China, an intense mudslide engulfed the port that connects the border nations.
42:23CNN's Will Ripley is following the latest from Taiwan and CNN's Jennifer Hansler is at the State Department for us. Will, what can you tell us this hour about the ongoing rescue efforts? Well, they're certainly trying as best they can as daylight comes back to this region to find people. The difficulty, of course, is that a lot of these areas are incredibly remote. You're talking about the Himalayas, difficult to access even in normal weather, not to mention the fact that so many of the roads have been destroyed. There was a helicopter pilot flying over when this disaster hit, this massive flooding, estimating that the waves were possibly 15 to 20 feet high.
43:01But if you look at the video and you look at the way that buildings were enveloped, and we are learning that the river, the Treschuli River, essentially rose about 30 feet in 30 minutes, and then all of the debris and the rock and the mud was accumulating as the water was making this ferocious path, cutting through the valley, cutting right through villages, cutting through the border crossing that had just been rebuilt after the 2015 earthquake, only has been open to passengers just the last three years or so. That was a concrete building that was designed to withstand earthquakes, and yet you saw it was just enveloped by the waves there.
43:34Some of the most dramatic footage of a natural disaster probably that we've ever seen. This is not a typical monsoon flood, which is common in this area. The monsoon flood would happen obviously because of rain, but there was no rainfall in the area. And so what scientists have been doing is looking upstream at what the potential cause could be. And it seems as if the consensus is now that this may have been a piece of a glacier that broke off. It was described as a rock and ice avalanche that jammed a river and caused the water to accumulate. There was also a 4.4 magnitude earthquake detected nearby.
44:05So they're trying to figure out if there's some sort of a link. What would have caused the water to dislodge, that avalanche of ice and rock to dislodge? And then all of that built up water just making its violent path, that chain reaction, taking the river and basically with the level so dramatically high that you just saw the speed at which it was moving. Cars were tossed around, power lines snapped apart, buildings either partially submerged or in some cases just they fell apart altogether in the force of this. And of course, making this even more horrific is the fact that this is a very popular route for both Hindus, Hindu pilgrims and also tourists, especially this time of year.
44:42And that's why you have a lot of folks on the ground fearful that this number of hundreds missing right now is actually an optimistic number. and they're afraid that the number could go much higher than that, including dozens of Americans, people from all over the world who were in this beautiful area during a very popular season to visit when this horrific, really there are no words to describe how bad this disaster was when it hit. I've never seen video like this. Looks like something out of a terrible sci-fi film. Jennifer, how are U.S. officials responding to the crisis, especially in trying to determine the fate of those dozens of missing Americans.
45:18Well, Biana, that is, of course, always the key challenge here when it comes to embassy officials, State Department officials, assisting those Americans who are affected by this horrific natural disaster. Now, the State Department right now is only confirming that they are aware of Americans who have been impacted. A Nepal tourist official told the Associated Press that they're aware of at least 47 Americans who were impacted by this, who are missing, that number is likely to rise. Some of the challenge here is that Americans are not required to identify when they go abroad. They're not required to register with the U.S.
45:56State Department. So they don't have necessarily a fulsome list of the people who were in this area. And they are asking Americans who are there to do so. We heard from a State Department official earlier today that they are They're also working with local tourist groups and local authorities to both provide assistance and also help identify Americans who may be missing, injured, or perhaps dead in this awful disaster. The other key element that U.S. officials are working on right now is potentially providing humanitarian assistance. We know that the State Department is in touch with the Nepalese government.
46:29Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that they stand ready to provide that humanitarian assistance. Oftentimes what we will see in these disasters is the State Department dispatching was called a Disaster Assistance Response Team. This is a group that have specialized in these disasters to help with search and recovery in this issue. Biana? All right, Jennifer Hansler and CNN's Will Ripley, you'll stay on the story for us. Thank you. I want to bring in Allison Chinchar in the CNN Weather Center. So Allison, walk us through what could have caused this and how did no one see this coming? Yeah, so what was initially thought was that this was actually triggered by an earthquake.
47:07Here you can see that dot, but now what the U.S. Geological Survey is saying is that's not the case. This was a landslide, a very powerful landslide that was so powerful it actually triggered and measured a 5.2 tremor on the seismograph machines. Now to kind of put this in perspective to show you the area where this is taking place, it's in the Himalayan region where that landslide took place. And we've got the little marker here so you can kind of see where that starting point was. We zoom in to give you a little bit better perspective. Now, if the landslide initiated in this general region, everything surrounding it would fall down with it.
47:41So you're going to have ice, you're going to have water, you're going to have rocks, even some boulders that comes down with it down into the valley below. This is the glacier tongue that then flows down into the river valley. And to kind of show you some before and after images of what we're talking about here, this is image taken yesterday. Now, it's flipped upside down. So this is the same glacier tongue we just showed you, but focus here on the green area. Now we fast forward to today and all of that green changes to brown, just showing all of that debris flow of where everything went as that landslide continued down along the valley floor.
48:14And it wasn't just in one place. Again, you kind of show this area, but then we widen out to kind of show you where it goes from there. It continues to follow down through the river valley and into this particular area where we have several buildings here. Now, everything would have flowed down in this direction before reaching those buildings. And the video here clearly shows all of that debris from that landslide just sliding into that area, just demolishing all of those buildings that were in that general region. But this isn't the only spot. Again, that water, that debris, everything along with it is just going to continue to go down through the valley, even more so where you actually then end up having some villages, some towns that were impacted.
48:55So we zoom in here to kind of give you a general layout of these neighboring towns that are here. We zoom in a little bit farther north, and you can start to see this bridge right through here, okay? Now we're going to show you some video of that bridge. There is that wall of water and debris just racing down here, flowing not just through where normal water would go, but also into the surrounding buildings, the streets, everything that's there. And it is such an immense amount of water and debris that comes through. At some point, this bridge eventually just gives way. It's just simply too much of a force for it to be able to hold steady enough.
49:31And you'll see it here. It's just about to go. And then it will also follow along with all of the rest of the debris that's being pushed down by this immense flow. It also continues to spread into there. You can see it kind of go there. It spreads into a lot of these buildings. So those buildings also start to sustain some damage as well. So, again, just kind of giving you that overall scope, this was not just one particular area that was hit. It was multiple areas that were hit, and that's why we're seeing so many of these videos come out. Just terrifying. Thanks for explaining it to us, CNN's Allison Chinchar.
50:02Well, the size of the memorial is growing at the Dolly Parton statue in her hometown of Sevierville, Tennessee, where crowds are paying their respects to the country music icon and philanthropist. Next, a musician who shared the stage with Dolly Parton joins me to share his stories about working with her. In our pop culture lead today, musicians who worked with the late Dolly Parton are praising her impeccable vocals and musical instincts. The country music icon and philanthropist died Tuesday at the age of 80 after a short battle with cancer. So what was it like to work with Dolly Parton? Chris Thiele joins me now.
50:43He's a Grammy Award winning mandolin player and singer-songwriter, founding member of the bands Nickel Creek and Punch Brothers. He played mandolin for Dolly Parton for a couple of years. Chris, literally you pulled yourself away from practice and rehearsal to talk to us, so I really appreciate it. Tell us what it was like being in Dolly Parton's musical orbit and how you're feeling as you grapple with her loss today. It was like being around the sun. she shined brighter than anyone I've ever been around and was just generosity incarnate the way that she would make you feel as a musician you put you instantly at ease she would she would walk into the room and and really see everyone who was there and would treat would treat you like you were Kenny Rogers.
51:38It was majestic to behold. And then what she would bring out of you just musically. So she's Dolly. And we all know that. But as a musician, I think one of the things that's rippling through my community is her sheer brilliance as an artist. And that was was resonating through every bar of music that she ever made. And so all of us were elevated in her presence. It was remarkable. Yeah, she made it seem so easy, but you're right. I mean, she was a musical genius, having written over 3 ,000 songs. And you told a great story on social media while you were playing for Dolly. You asked her if she would sit in with you for a song on your solo show.
52:27and she said yes and you played and sang Jackson together. You happened to find this old clip of it. Let's watch a little bit. Well, we got married in a fever Hotter than a peppered frown We've been talking about I mean, treasure that video forever. How surreal was that moment? well what was crazy is that she she would always be so general i mean be honest she made us chicken and dumplings in the studio she was always there before we got there she was there after we left she would take a genuine interest in all of our all of our lives and i mean i was this 19 20 year old kid uh no one knew who i was and people still don't and dolly treated again treated you like you were just the only person that she ever wanted to hang out with.
53:20And I remember her saying, now, Chris, if you ever need anything, you just ask. And I did Wild Hair. It was one of my first solo shows for 150 people. You know, she plays for 25 ,000 people. And she said, yeah, absolutely. Let's work something up. And I remember, so her manager kind of gave me the high sign. All right, She's at the back door right now. So introduce her. I transitioned, like improvised from the middle of the song I was in to, y 'all, I can't believe I get to say this, but please make welcome Dolly Parton. And on she comes. And off we go. And, I mean, these 150 people, they lost their minds, of course.
54:07And Dolly, the brilliant, the humor. I mean, she did like a tight five in between every song. It was unbelievable. And I actually learned later that a lot of people didn't even really believe it was her. They thought it was just maybe the best Dolly impersonator they'd ever seen in their lives. I can't believe that video turned up. I didn't know anyone had gotten it. Well, keep it. Keep it in a lockbox because you are very, very lucky to have had that opportunity to share a stage with her. And when we see videos of Dolly Parton singing live, I mean, going back to the earlier point of her making it seem so easy, but she had such a natural presence.
54:44and precision as well. How would you describe the singularity of her voice? Well, you hear the 100 % commitment to every single syllable of every single word. The belief that she had in the urgency of her message and the utility of her message is unlike anything I've ever encountered in a musician before. I think she knew that she was capable of making music that would make people feel better about being human. And I know all of us on stage felt it. And I know all of us in the audience felt it. I've been on both sides of it. And now I feel like even though, of course, there's this intense sense of loss, there's also this intense sense of awe in the beauty that one of our fellow human beings was capable of not only making, but sharing in such a meaningful way with all of us.
55:55It's like sharing it to the extent that we feel like it's ours. And that now we get to feel, we get to share it with other people. I feel like that's, her message is a message that can give us all the fuel we need to get out there and make a difference, bring a little beauty into the world. You shared a stage with her and she made you chicken and dumplings. You're going to have to share that experience with us later at some point. Chris Thiele, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Oh, it's my pleasure. Love you, Dolly. Thank you. We all do. All right. Well, Canada fires back announcing significant new tariffs on hundreds of U.S.
56:32goods. We're breaking down how this growing trade war could impact the prices that you and your family are paying.
56:45In our money lead, Americans could start feeling even more financial pay next month. Canada is hitting back at the Trump administration with tariffs ranging from 15 % to 50 % on over 700 American goods in an effort to match U.S. tariffs dollar for dollar, notably doubling its duties on U.S. steel and aluminum to 50 % set to take effect September 8th. The mayor of Windsor, Ontario, Drew Dilkens, joins us now. We should note Windsor is just over the border from Detroit and known as the automotive capital of Canada. Mayor Dilkens, welcome to the program. Thanks for joining us. So as I noted, the U.S.
57:22steel and aluminum tariffs are already in effect. Now Canada's retaliatory tariffs will take effect early next month. Can Windsor's manufacturing sector survive those? and then the 50 % tariffs on Canadian cars and auto parts set to take effect January 1st? Well, we are so tightly integrated. I don't think any of us can survive this. This will be bad for business on the Canadian side of the border, but it will be equally bad in Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, and beyond. And I think smart, sensible minds have to prevail here. We have to get back to the table and find a resolution that gets us to a solution on this comprehensive trade agreement that we have called USMCA.
58:01And how do we do that? Well, listen, I think we have so deeply, we have such a deeply integrated economy, especially in the auto industry and the parts sector. It is unfathomable to believe that we're ever going to get to a point where we're going to apply 50 % tariffs. And if that happens, Biana, I'm telling you, 10 ,000 people will be out of work in Michigan within a week. 10 ,000 people will be out of work in Ontario within a week as the OEM simply idle production and send people home because the price of the vehicles will not be affordable to anybody in the United States or Canada. And so we have to get people back to the table and recognize first principles.
58:37We have a comprehensive trade relationship called USMCA that provides for duty-free and tariff-free trade for goods produced on our continent. Donald Trump came in in his second term and he started dismantling that piece by piece, hiding off steel, aluminum, auto, lumber, and many other things. And so he has done this unilaterally. We're in this position where now Canada is really left with no other reasonable alternative to send a signal back to the United States saying we can't tolerate this behavior. I want to read a headline for you that caught my attention from The Economist. And it's this.
59:12Mark Carney must be aware of an all-out trade war. And it goes on to point out, quote, The trouble is that America's economy is 13 times larger than Canada's and far better equipped to cope. Mr. Carney should look for ways to walk back his retaliatory tariffs. Do you agree with that assessment? He obviously is an expert in the field of economics. Do you think that America is too big for Canada to take on? Well, listen, there's no doubt your economy is far larger than I. You're 10 times the size of Canada. None of us want to be here. And we have to find a sensible way back to the table that de-escalates some of the rhetoric that has been thrown back and forth across the border in the last week or so.
59:58But there also has to be a strong reflection, Biana, that you can't have a trade agreement that only works for one party. We have built a tightly integrated supply chain, especially on the auto side, that, you know, one has often said that it is analogous to unscrambling an egg. if you're trying to decouple the integration that we've built between the United States, Canada, and of course Mexico through NAFTA and USMCA. And so we have to find a way to make this make sense because a trade war makes no sense for Canada, but it doesn't make any sense for the United States as well. Yeah, hurting consumers in both countries.
1:00:32Windsor, Ontario Mayor Drew Dilkins, thank you for the time. Thank you. Well, Meta is promising changes to Facebook and Instagram after settling a landmark lawsuit for$18 billion. We'll explain up next.
1:00:52In our politics lead, new developments in the legal fight over mail-in voting just weeks before the midterm elections. 24 states and the District of Columbia today sued the U.S. Postal Service over new rules that would give the agency a bigger role in handling mail-in ballots. The states say the new rules go too far, arguing the Postal Service should not have that much control over how states run their elections. New York Attorney General Letitia James is helping lead that coalition, and she joins us now. Attorney General James, thanks for joining us. So what is your biggest concern about how these rules could affect the midterm elections?
1:01:29Because the United States Postal Service and the president of these United States have played no role in elections. The Constitution is clear. It belongs to the states. And the U.S. postal system cannot usurp the power of the states. And they cannot frustrate our mail-in ballot procedure. In addition to that, the time frame is just too short to mail out millions of ballots, to change the ballot, to design an envelope. It is virtually impossible. It will cost states millions and millions of dollars. But the bottom line is this. States under our Constitution have control over the time, place and manner of elections.
1:02:11And that's what it should be. And so this is unconstitutional. And that's why we filed a lawsuit today. And that's why we are seeking a temporary restraining order against this rule. So what would you like to see happen next? What I would like to see next is a TRO issued, and I would like to see that the power that belongs to the states remain in the states. As Attorney General, all 24 of us are basically representing the interests of our respective states, and that's the way that it should be. This is nothing more than an attempt to basically frustrate and to suppress the right to vote. When you don't have anything to run on, you must cheat, and that's what this is.
1:02:48And so it's really critically important that individuals understand that the right to vote belongs to the state. And as state attorneys general, we are doing our job as always. And in the past, in all of the cases that we have filed against this administration, against their illegal, unconstitutional executive orders, we have won over 85 percent of our cases. And I'm confident that we will win this one as well. Well, you know, the Supreme Court in their decision did not rule on the legality of this executive order, but at least said thus far no damage had been done. What damage do you think has been done?
1:03:25Because all of the damage that I just laid out to you, it's also important to understand that the United States Supreme Court just focused, again, on procedural grounds. It was not the merits of the case. And so despite the dicta, at the end of the day, it's the Constitution that rules the day. And the Constitution clearly speaks to states' rights. And that should not be usurped by the United States Postal Service and or this administration. The power on elections belongs to states. It's clear, it's written, it's black letter law, and that is what we should abide by in this country. And so we will not allow this president or the United States Postal Service to usurp or frustrate our rights.
1:04:12And we know millions of Americans, Democrats, Republicans, including the president, vote by mail. I want to turn to the other major development today. That is the largest big tech settlement in history, Meta announcing an$18 billion settlement that could fundamentally change the way children use social media. As part of this settlement, Meta agreed to make changes to its platform, such as establishing daily time limits for teen users. I'm a mother of teens. You joined 32 states to hold the parent company of Facebook and Instagram accountable. Do you think that these changes will better protect young people compared to features that had been rolled out in the past?
1:04:54Yes. The business model of Meta is as follows. One, hook children. Two, let them stay on the platform as long as possible. Three, harvest their data. And four, not tell anyone about it. It's important that individuals understand this is transformational, and this will basically change the relationship between children and social media platforms. There has been stories and there have been studies and internal studies by Meta, which link the mental health crisis that young people are experiencing now to social media. and what we are attempting to do, and we have been successful, and that is addressing the anxiety, the mental health crisis, the depression, and the self-harm that children are engaging in at this point in time with limitations on the amount of time that they will be on the social media platform and provide pauses and limit their ability to have predators focus on children and also eliminate the ability of children to have inappropriate content.
1:06:05And so this wonderful and basically extraordinary settlement is similar to the tobacco settlement, again, where you have major companies which unfortunately violate consumer protection laws and privacy laws as well. And as one of the attorneys general, all 24 of us stood up in a bipartisan fashion and decided to challenge these social media companies and their platforms on behalf of children in these United States. And I am so happy that this will address some of the social ills that we are seeing in our society. New York Attorney General Letitia James, thank you for the time. Well, President Trump appears to have a new strategy for the midterms, and it involves running campaign ads about someone not on the ballot.
1:06:57We'll explain who up next.
1:07:05In our politics lead, with less than 70 days until the midterm elections, President Trump doesn't appear to be worried about Democrats using ads attacking his record. In fact, Trump reportedly is leaning into it. According to The Atlantic, Trump is planning an ad blitz touting his accomplishments. The Atlantic writing, quote, Trump wanted what one person described to us as environmental lift ads, commercials that would focus on nationalizing the midterms broadly around his victories. And he suggested that the ad makers mine his own on-camera statements as building blocks. All right. The panel joins me now to discuss.
1:07:42Mike, do you believe the strategy will be effective or are you concerned that it could actually hurt Republicans? Well, I think anytime you can spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to lift your image, that's a good thing for the candidates and for the president. And his numbers are going to be determinative of many of these elections. But at the same time, he's been in the national spotlight for 10 years, certainly as a president or presidential candidate and decades before that as a celebrity. I don't know any amount of money that could really change somebody's opinion about Donald Trump right now.
1:08:09Now, you either you have an opinion about Donald Trump, good or bad at this point. I'm not sure that commercials will make a huge difference. And what exactly would they be touting? Well, I think you would want to put it. Well, I think they would want to put a good spin on the economic record and they'll obviously try to place blame. And I think for them, they're going to try to make contrast between what where Donald Trump is trying to take the country, whether or not you agree with it or not, and with the extreme left of the Democratic Party. And that's the contrast I think many Republicans would be smart to make.
1:08:35Christine, John, you have thoughts. Let's start with you, Christine. Bring it on. Bring it on. I love the idea of a guy who has the worst poll numbers, really, of any modern-day president, spending hundreds of millions of dollars saying how great he is. It's like he looked at us Democrats, you know, from two and a half years ago, three years ago, where we were saying, no, things aren't that bad. You really feel like you don't have any money, but you do. It's okay. But that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to tell everybody the economy's great when they can't afford tomatoes. Inflation's high.
1:09:10And now we're fighting with tariffs on Canada. Bring it on. And the tariff fight with Canada is only growing here. So what do you make of it? It's a new kind of stupid which will supercharge all the cost problems he's dealing with. I mean, this is a guy who won the last election by talking about affordability, who claimed in that confidence man way, when I'm elected on day one, we're going to get rid of inflation and prices are going to go down. And instead, prices are going up. And that's one reason why he's at 25 percent among independents. So it is it is clearly once again all about him and his ego, but it does deep damage to the party he allegedly leads.
1:09:48Well, he may be emboldened by a victory in South Carolina here, fresh off her runoff victory in South Carolina. Republican Senator Darlene Graham is getting mocked for her argument against her Democratic opponent's support of what she says is government-run health care. Take a listen. Gun control, government-run health care, abortion until the moment of birth. Annie Andrews backs them all. I have a different background and vision for our state. I'm a hard worker with a servant's heart. My parents worked long, hard hours to make ends meet. We didn't take vacations. If they were sick, they had to get up and go to work because the doors weren't open.
1:10:33We weren't making money. My mother passed away when I was 11 and my father just over a year later. So, Mike, she's made clear she's a novice here in terms of politics, but she knows and cares about local constituents and the issues that they're facing and will learn on the job. Was that convincing? Well, I think many people will feel bad about her. I think many are bad about that story. I think people want to jump on it. But like attacking someone who just talked about losing their parents at 11 and 12 could backfire politically as well. Now, don't get me wrong. This is a very tough place to learn on the job.
1:11:08U.S. Senate races now are all national races. And to go into the spotlight, especially for her brother, who is a nationally known figure, is very, very difficult place to learn on the job. It reminds me of, you know, when Governor Palin became vice presidential candidate, that spotlight gets hot very, very fast. And so she's about to learn that. She had very difficult debate. No one has accused her of being the best candidate in America right now. But it's a good it's a good state for Republicans and she should be victorious. So Christine Graham's opponent, Dr. Annie Andrews, responded to Graham's health care remarks on CNN earlier today.
1:11:38Here's what she said. What she said there was that her health care plan is you should work hard until you die. I believe that Darlene's parents deserved better. I believe that health care is a human right, that we must shift America's profit-motivated health care system to a patient-centered health care system that actually meets the needs of everyone in this country. So she went on to challenge Graham to three televised debates. I mean, this is a deep red state, Christine, at the end of the day. Does she stand a chance? I mean, I think it's a very much uphill battle for her. There's no question about that, but good for her for being aggressive and raising debates, which we know that Ms.
1:12:20Graham is not very good at. The story she tells, the reality of what happened to her parents, what happened to her and her late brother, is tragic. I lost my mother when I was a teenager. It devastates you, particularly as a girl. But then to tell us how they had to work basically till they were so, so sick that they passed away or they just couldn't work anymore. That's a tragedy, too. And I just don't understand the thought process of that leading somebody to say that we can't do more about health care, that we don't need to make a change. What happened to them was terrible. And former Governor Sanford was on with me in the last hour, and he endorsed her opponent but said he would campaign for her.
1:13:10But his concern was low turnout. Mark Sanford endorsed the Democrat, did you say? No, no, no. He did not endorse Graham initially, right? He endorsed her opponent. Yes, correct. Or Ralph Northam. Yes. But now he said that he would support Graham. But he's very concerned about turnout. Yeah, look, I think that Darlene Graham benefited from Trump, the last name, but she doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. I thought Martha would actually do better than he did. I think two things there. Look, there's a lot of compassion about they're small business owners for parents when they died so long ago. And when you're a small business owner, you got to get up when you're sick and do the work.
1:13:46That's a work ethic point. There should be compassion for them. But the fact that a decade and a half after demonizing Obamacare, the Republicans still don't have a proactive healthcare message. when 69 % of Americans say health care costs are one of the top issues for them in this election because it's a major driver of inflation and fear that if you get sick, you could go bankrupt as a family. In the case of a serious illness, the Republicans still don't have an answer is malpractice in its own way. So let me ask another issue that some Republicans would say is malpractice for the president to continue to pursue.
1:14:20And yet he is. His feud with the Kennedy Center isn't going anywhere. now as administration is threatening to demolish the building if it's not allowed to proceed with its extensive renovations. Is this something the president should be focused on right now? No, it's not. I mean, all the talk of monuments and decorations and renaming things is not what the American people are looking at right now. They care about affordability and prices, and that's where the focus should be. This is mafia boss behavior, right? If you don't do what I say, I'm going to tear down the building that's in a memorial.
1:14:47And he tore down the East Wing. So, I mean, you know, there are so, they need to be called out and stood up to. They can't tear down buildings that belong to the people, not to them. And we should build back the East Wing just as it was, not build the ballroom. Absolutely. All right. On that note, we'll leave it there. Thank you, panel. And up next, my exclusive interview with a former Israeli hostage held by Hamas in Gaza. Evitar David had spent much of the last year recovering from the horrors inflicted by the terror group. But now he's on a mission to make sure the world remembers what happened.
1:15:20Bring you his story up next.
1:15:29In our world lead, a CNN exclusive. In his first international interview, we're hearing from Evyatar David, the former Israeli hostage seen around the world in shocking images that showed him severely emaciated and being forced to dig his own grave. David spent more than two years in Hamas captivity before being released as part of the U.S.-brokered ceasefire agreement last year. In the months since, David has been overcoming unimaginable trauma. And he joined me from his home just outside of Tel Aviv earlier this week. He speaks about what he endured and shares an extraordinary message of resilience.
1:16:06It's an image that shocked the world. the emaciated figure of Evyatar David in a Gaza tunnel. After being held by Hamas for more than two years, Evyatar was finally released last October, back into the arms of his family. Now, nearly a year later, in his first international interview, Evyatar, who has made a remarkable physical recovery, says he's still dealing with the mental toll. One hour I can be fine and happy, and the second one I can remember is something from captivity and get flashbacks and also I can wake up at night from nightmares. Evyatar was kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival on October 7th, 2023 and dragged into Gaza.
1:16:55He was held alongside his best friend since childhood, Guy Gilboa Dalal, for much of his captivity. In a propaganda video released in August 2025, Evyatar was forced by his Hamas captors to list the days he went without food, his skeletal body looking close to death. We were in extreme starvation. Everything I was saying there and doing, they tell me what to do. But of course, how you can see my body, it's totally true. I couldn't, I could barely move, could barely do anything. In an act of horrifying psychological torture, Evyatar was also forced to dig his own grave. When I tried to dig the grave, just to hold the shovel, it was almost impossible.
1:17:50Probably the hardest physical thing I ever did. It took me like 50 meters walk, and for me I almost collapsed. It was almost impossible for me to do. Evyatar says his captors would sometimes eat in front of him, another kind of torment. I can hear them laughing and eating cakes and drinking tea. Like there is no person that walks like next to them and looks like a skeleton. But this is how they are, they are very cruel. Since those scenes of jubilation, when, after 738 days, he and Guy became some of the last hostages to be released from Gaza, Evyatar and other survivors say they haven't had enough help from the government.
1:18:38His family and friends launched a crowdfunding campaign to help pay for his recovery. What could you tell this government or the next government, because there are elections just weeks away, about what they could do differently and better? We don't have enough help. This is why I do the campaign that my family and friends did for me, for raising money. And I hope the next government will do better. As for the broader situation between Israel and Hamas, Evyatar does not have high hopes for a resolution. The U.S.-backed Board of Peace announced in recent weeks that Hamas had agreed to disarm if Israel withdraws its troops from Gaza, a move which President Trump called historic, but which has so far been rejected by Israel.
1:19:30You spent over two years underground with some of these men, these terrorists. You know them in a way no negotiator ever will. Do you allow yourself to envision a Hamas-free Gaza and peace? No, I don't think it's possible because they're pure ideology. They just want the whole land. They don't really care about Gaza. I could see it in their eyes. It's the thing that they want the most. I never saw something like that. It's scary, really. For Evyatar, each celebration of life's milestones now represents victory. He recently attended fellow former hostage Elia Cohen's wedding. You know, they tried to take all of us and take our lives and ruin our family's life and everybody here's life.
1:20:25Eventually, they didn't manage to, like, ruin Elia and Ziv life. Eventually they got married under the chuppah and it's the biggest closure and victory. Evyatar and his brother will tour the United States in September, speaking about his captivity, something that he says helps in his recovery. All right, well, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Bianna Golodriga. You can follow the show on X and Instagram at The Lead. You ever miss an episode of The Lead, you can watch the show on the CNN app. Aaron Burnett Out Front starts right now.
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