Elaine Crowley talks white wine, mortgages and morning TV

29 Aug 2026 · 57 min · 32 chapters

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In short

Elaine Crowley, TV3/Virgin Media presenter and producer, discusses buying her first home in Ireland after years of renting; the Irish mortgage and bidding process; why she thinks live terrestrial TV will endure; and her personal mental/health history (major depressive disorder, ADHD diagnosis, and early menopause in her 30s). She also jokes about how white wine makes her “go bananas” and links it to her mother’s warning.

Guest backgrounds

Elaine Crowley is a Virgin Media/TV3 news presenter and producer for nearly 30 years. She’s a new homeowner (bought an apartment after renting since moving to Dublin for college at 17). She’s an ambassador for Breast Cancer Ireland’s Very Pink Run.

Key claims

Ireland’s housing market is flawed because social housing should be built by government, not private enterprise. Online bidding/auctions can enable fake bids and worsen outbidding. Live, immediate TV (and local news) isn’t going away. She manages major depressive disorder with an SSRI and describes early menopause and ADHD as compounding challenges.

Notable examples

An apartment she bid on at €325k went to €480k; she was never “gazumped.” She describes hot flashes so severe her clothes/hair were drenched, and tests that ruled out cancer and then confirmed low egg reserve. She says she takes two SSRI doses daily and that stopping isn’t immediately catastrophic.

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Elaine's White Wine Anecdote

1:15 to 2:17

Elaine shares a humorous story about her mother's warning against white wine.

“My mother, God rest her on her deathbed, said, Please Nancy, never drink white wine because any time I used to drink white wine in my youth I'd go bananas.”

Interview Setup and Guest Introduction

2:17 to 2:51

Mario introduces Elaine Crowley and sets the stage for a lively conversation.

“So we talk about the crazy experience of trying to buy a home in Ireland, including one apartment that she went for, asking price 325 went to 480.”

Elaine's Journey to Homeownership

2:51 to 3:52

Elaine discusses her experience buying a home in Ireland and the challenges faced.

“There's a lot of this coming up in the Mario Rosenstock podcast.”

Challenges in the Media Industry

3:52 to 4:12

Elaine shares her views on the resilience of live television amidst changing trends.

Elaine's Personal Struggles

4:12 to 4:31

Elaine opens up about her struggles with mental health and personal diagnosis.

“Runs will take place across Dublin, Kilkenny and Cork between the 29th of August and the 6th of September, all in support of groundbreaking breast cancer research and nationwide awareness and education programmes.”

Gift Grub Sketch Segment

4:31 to 7:40

A comedic sketch featuring Michael Healy Ray and his family dynamics in politics.

“The Healy Rays continue to make national news.”

Elaine's Birthday Celebration and Reflections

9:00 to 14:01

Elaine shares her birthday plans and reflections on life and aging.

“So there is still time for you to get a life.”

The Reality of Fame and Mortgages

14:01 to 16:46

Discover the challenges of affording a home in Dublin despite fame.

“People think once you're on telly or you're vaguely famous that you're rich.”

Bidding Wars and Gazumping

16:46 to 19:18

Learn about the bidding process and the impact of gazumping in real estate.

“but if you tot up the money that has been actually spent in grants and incentives money to builders to build I mean you'd nearly buy a house for everyone on the waiting list in the country.”

The Personal Impact of Renting

19:18 to 21:36

Hear personal stories of renting and the insecurity it brings.

“It's a different kind of happening again, yeah.”
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Navigating the Mortgage Process

21:36 to 24:00

Gain insights into the mortgage process and how lenders assess risk.

“in retiring age 60, 65 or anything and that you may wish to and will be able to possibly work well into your 70s?”

The Perils of White Wine

24:00 to 26:45

Explore the humorous and chaotic effects of consuming white wine.

“Pornhub or something Like that Sister Annunciata Is driving a Ford Fiesta Oh god So Anyway So basically If you're a 69 year old Nun in a Ford Fiesta There's zero chance You're going to have a crash Really?”

Laughs and Impressions

26:45 to 28:01

Enjoy light-hearted discussions about impressions and personalities on TV.

“So there are times though where you go, oh my God, I just would love a glass of maybe Chardonnay or Pinot Grigio.”

Reflections on Emotions and White Wine

28:01 to 28:39

Exploring the effects of white wine on emotions and social interactions.

“You got a bit emotional there yesterday.”

Discussing Martin King

28:40 to 29:50

A humorous exploration of co-host Martin King's personality and quirks.

“He only gets pissed off when he's watching Dubs lose.”

Work Dynamics in Morning TV

29:51 to 30:45

Insight into the social dynamics and collaboration in morning TV shows.

“I'm one of life's, my wife calls them, my wife calls people, well, you're either a well-wisher or not.”

The State of Terrestrial TV

30:46 to 31:28

Elaine discusses the current viewership trends of Ireland AM and its surprising popularity.

“Oh, it's really strange because everyone's saying kind of the whole, I suppose, the rhetoric at the moment is that terrestrial TV and it's going downhill and blah, blah, blah.”

Live TV's Enduring Appeal

31:29 to 32:39

Exploring why live TV remains relevant and its connection to viewers.

“I swear on my mother's grave, it's not a wind-up.”

Trust in Broadcast News

32:40 to 34:22

Discussing the importance of trust in terrestrial news broadcasts versus social media.

“I don't know about the rest of the week but I know from Friday, Saturday and Sunday because obviously they're the only numbers I care about.”

The Origins of Newtown Pothouse

34:23 to 35:05

A humorous exploration of the name and origins of Newtown Pothouse and its quirky counterparts.

“do you look at Instagram do you look at Twitter or whatever it's called now do you look at TikTok if you really want to know what's properly going on you don't really.”

Openness About Mental Health

35:06 to 36:31

Elaine shares her experiences with mental health issues and openness in discussions.

Managing Clinical Depression

36:32 to 37:40

Elaine discusses her experience with clinical depression and the importance of medication.

“it's it's it's sounds like something that Simon Harris is going to let us invest in It's something serotonin reuptake inhibitor.”

The Impact of Alcohol on Mood

37:41 to 39:48

The effects of alcohol consumption on mental health, especially in relation to depression.

“So if you, let's say, go on holiday and you forget your medication, it's not the end of the world.”

Navigating Early Menopause

39:49 to 40:48

Elaine discusses her experience with early menopause and its implications.

“And it's like, oh yeah, early menopause.”

Reflections on Body Image and Future

40:49 to 42:01

A reflective discussion on body image and the impact of personal experiences on future expectations.

“But if they don't know me, it's like, oh Jesus.”

Navigating Personal Challenges and Future Aspirations

42:01 to 44:46

Elaine Crowley reflects on personal struggles, health concerns, and their impact on her life vision.

“So, but it did, I suppose, rob me of the future I thought I would have in a way, but I didn't realise it at the time.”

The Complexities of Dating and Relationships

44:47 to 46:05

Elaine discusses the changes in her dating outlook due to her health and future concerns.

“because I suppose if I thought like the kids aren't in the offing, why bother?”

Candid Conversations about Body Image

46:06 to 48:26

Elaine shares humorous yet poignant experiences related to body image and public perception.

Reflections on Safety and Urban Life

48:27 to 54:21

The hosts discuss the changing dynamics of urban safety and community in Dublin.

“You wouldn't mind I was a bit two stone lighter than I am now then Oh for fuck's sake The robust one Where is that going?”

Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Initiatives

54:22 to 56:01

Elaine shares her involvement with the Great Pink Run and its importance.

“But like I was in, and you can test me about this if you want to, but I was in, you know, I go to Rome a good bit because we just like it.”

Reflections on O'Connell Street

56:01 to 56:31

Discussion about the potential and current state of O'Connell Street.

Breast Cancer Awareness and the Great Pink Run

56:31 to 57:19

Elaine discusses her role as an ambassador for Breast Cancer Ireland and the Great Pink Run.

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1:11Trading as HUM is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland. Coming up on this episode of the Mario Rosenstock Podcast. My mother, God rest her on her deathbed, said, Please Nancy, never drink white wine because any time I used to drink white wine in my youth I'd go bananas. I turn into a bit of a bitch. Yeah, I just go psycho. I start bitching about people. For no reason. That's why it's the work of the devil. I'm sure Satan actually made the first white wine vineyard.

1:46There are some guests where you have a pretty clear idea of where the interview is going to go. You have your questions, you have your notes, you behave yourself, and everything proceeds in a reasonably professional manner, or so you hope. And then there's Elaine Crowley. I love talking to Elaine because within about five minutes, the plan is completely out the window. She's chatty, and this conversation is a perfect example of that. She came in on her birthday, which I was very grateful for. I thought that was very generous of her. And from there, we went absolutely, well, everywhere. Elaine has just bought her own place, would you believe, after years of renting.

2:19So we talk about the crazy experience of trying to buy a home in Ireland, including one apartment that she went for, asking price 325 went to 480. My God. And what it means to finally have somewhere that's actually she can call her own. We talk about Virgin Media, where Elaine has worked for nearly 30 years now and why she believes live television is not going anywhere. Elaine also opens up about the more difficult parts of her life, living with major depressive disorder, being diagnosed with ADHD, and going through early menopause in her 30s. There's a lot of this coming up in the Mario Rosenstock podcast.

2:55The newsreaders of TV3 were called, the Times called us the Stepford Wives. What? And there was the witch one, the Gwail Gore one, the other one, and I was the robust one. The robust one? You wouldn't mind us, but two stone lighter than I am now then. Oh, for fuck's sake. The robust one. so if the landlord was going to sell you would have had to move I would have had to move but it's not the first time it's happened to me loads of times about four times I've been renting I moved to Dublin when I was 17 for college and then I came back when I was 22 and then so I've been renting since then I think one, two, three, four I think five times I've had to move because the property's being sold so I was just I was done with it The rhetoric at the moment is that terrestrial TV is going downhill and blah, blah, blah and I've been in Virgin Media slash TV3 for years there's more people watching Ireland Dame now than it was when I started news reading is it true I swear to god I can actually show you figures from the other day are you sure he doesn't come in and just go fuck this for a game of soldiers I'm not doing the papers this morning you do the fucking papers fuck you even if you wouldn't believe him do you know he's just he's just one of these what if we gave him white wine I'm not going to do he's a Sambuca man would you believe Sambuca he's going to kill me for telling you that I drink Sambuca Elaine is also an ambassador for Breast Cancer Ireland's Very Pink Run.

4:12Runs will take place across Dublin, Kilkenny and Cork between the 29th of August and the 6th of September, all in support of groundbreaking breast cancer research and nationwide awareness and education programmes. But before we get to my full chat with Elaine, it's time to revisit a popular gift grub sketch from this week's Ian Dempsey Breakfast Show. The Healy Rays continue to make national news. The brothers have fallen out. It was a documentary. Now, it's a film. This autumn, get ready for the movie event of the year. Michael Healy Ray is the head of a powerful family. Michael, thank you for seeing me.

4:54No problem, Nate. How can I be of assistance to you? Well, you see, Michael, there's been an enormous pothole outside my house in Calarclan since last Tuesday. And what influence do you think I could have, Ned? I'm only a humble local businessman, indeed. Michael, if you could honour me with a favour, I would... Niddy, didn't you vote for the Finnegale fellow in the last election, dear? It was a mistake, Michael. I'm sorry. It'll never happen again. I promise, Michael, I will give you a... Wish! Consider it filled. Oh, Michael. Oh, Michael, thank you. Thank you. Get away from me, Niddy. His family controlled everything.

5:33everything. I have it here, Clown Corlett. Deputy Healy Ray is the biggest landlord in the Dáil. He owns farms, he forests hundreds of acres, roads, buildings, building road machinery, companies all run through my family. Deputy Healy Ray, I have nothing to say. Introducing Danny Healy Ray as Michael's poor, unfortunate brother. Yes, Danny? I was thinking. You were what? How many times have I warned you about that kind of carry on, Danny. I was thinking of taking a different position to you on something. Whatever. Take sides against the family, Danny. Sorry, baby. But this time, it's different.

6:19In an extraordinary outburst on Radio Kerry, Danny Healy Ray said he would vote against the government, and this would conflict greatly with his brother's wishes. Now, two brothers are at war. Denny? What, Michael? It was you! Why did you kiss me? You broke my heart, Denny! Introducing Michal Martin as the hapless politician. Michael, I'm counting on your vote going forward. I'm a reasonable man, Michal. So, what will it take? A bypass. Huh? 80 kilometers of road. Now hold on. Three more gas stations. No, but that all seems very excessive, Michael. You could always ask somebody else. Where would you like the road?

7:07The critics are loving it. Fintan O'Toole of the Irish Times calls it a dystopian, towering meditation of feuding patriarchs, a rural dynasty as operatic myth. The star says it's slurry-tastic. Michael Healy Ray. He's like fungi. He sleeps with the fishes. Danny Healy Ray. The God Farmer. coming to a constituency near you.

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8:49We don't charge for our podcast. No premium, no subscriber payment. You just get it for free And thank you to Hum For getting on board With the Mario Rosenstock podcast So let's get straight across Over to the Goal Out Studios And introduce my special guest On this episode TV presenter, producer Proud new homeowner And birthday girl Elaine Crowley Elaine, happy birthday Thank you very much Oh, thank you for coming in You're very welcome Like, I feel so honoured Where else would I be on my birthday Except gazing at your good self Right, so, okay We just premised this by saying And it is still a half 12 in the afternoon.

9:24So there is still time for you to get a life. No, I have a life after this. But, you know, I was begged and pleaded. Please come into Mario. He misses you. Was that Patrick, was it? Yeah, pretty much. Patrick made me do it. Patrick Cawley, my producer. Yeah, he is. He's a very good beggar. He very much is. Very good beggar. Waterford. He's a Waterford beggar. I should say, say no more. Yeah. All they have the blah, nothing else. Yeah. And so are you going to celebrate today? I am. Look, it's a Tuesday. Today's a Tuesday. So I'm not going too mad today. but you know I think the roundy birthdays are the ones to really like throw off heels and go bananas Did you say your age on microphone?

9:58I'm not roundy yet No you didn't say I'm 49 You're okay with saying that? I'd love to be whether I'm okay with it or not the Sunday Independent broadcasted for me last Sunday and the notable birthdays of the week Not only did they say my birthday they used me in a picture and you wouldn't mind there's loads of famous people their birthday this week Madonna is there Christian Slater there Patrick Swayze all these people Robert Redford God rest him as well and watch they use a picture of me so I can't. Well, I would use that in my gravestone. The Sunday Independent used my picture for my birthdays instead of Madonna.

10:27Over Madonna. Yeah, that's a good claim to fame. Do you know what? The alternative isn't much better, is it? So I prefer to be where I am than anywhere else. So I think it's fair to say you look very well now. Well, thank you very much. I mean, and it must be genetic. I'd say you have good genes. I have good genes. Because you've always looked like this. You just look the same the whole time. I know, I've got a bit wobblier now as the time has gone on. But yeah, see the great... Good skin. Good skin. I am helped along by the old toxin injections. I'm not going to lie. A bit of filler. I maintain myself as best I can.

10:54But my mother in fairness too. She smoked like a trooper, drank like a fish, cartwheeled all her life and she had perfect skin at 80. Yeah. And you don't have a particular propensity to wrinkle. See the beauty about old ages or getting older as well, Mario, and you might feel this, your eyesight diminishes as well. So you're looking at me saying I don't have any wrinkles but come closer. My eyesight hasn't diminished. Sorry, I bore people with this shot. Yeah. I went to do, I was going to play Jose Mourinho in a sketch, right, once. Where are you going with this? Do you know Jose Mourinho? I know Jose.

11:25You know the way he talks? He's very, very attractive. He has beautiful brown eyes. He's very sexual. And everybody, and now there's a documentary about me. I'm a fan. There is a documentary about me on Netflix. But I went to play Jose Mourinho in a TV sketch. And my brilliant makeup artist Edwina says, do you want to go to Full Hog? And I went, well, there's only so far we can go to make me look like Jose and she went no no you're okay and I went what is it and she went we can go brown eyes and I went but I have blue eyes and she went yeah we can get the contacts brown contacts yeah so I went yeah it does I managed to do it I'd do anything for it so anything I went to the optician and he went okay there's your brown contacts fair enough and he went do you want to do an eye test while we're here and I went oh yeah sure I haven't done an eye test in a long time and he says do you wear glasses and I went no and he went let's do an eye test so he did an eye test Can you read that?

12:16And I went, KWRP. Can you read that? TWRP. How far down did you go? The bottom. Thick off. And he went, and he went, ooh. And I went, what? You could ride a US fighter jet. And I went, what? And he went, you would be allowed to pilot an F-15. And I went, because he says you've got. That's amazing. You've got 1020 eyesight. It's 2010 eyesight or 1020? I look it up. You know 2020? Yeah. So I think I have 2015, which is. Fighter jet territory. You are Tom Cruise. Yeah. You're Maverick. Maverick. Yes, indeed. I feel the need. Talk to me, Goose. Talk to me. The need for speed. Anyway, I'm always boring people to death with that.

12:57I think it's a great story. If I had that story, I would tell everybody. It is. Now, come here. Happy birthday. So for your birthday, you bought yourself a house. Well, an apartment. It wasn't for my birthday. It was for the decade of the 40s, which started off with a great intention and kind of finished up at 48 with the final apartment. But this was a whole rigmarole for you. Oh my God, what a pain in your ass. I'm willing to listen to you. Go on. Are you my therapist now? No, because I'll tell you, I'll premise this by saying I've had a good few people on the podcast, notable, well-known people who I have engaged in a conversation with about.

13:30So, for example, I remember the brilliant actor and writer and like constantly doing stuff, producer, director, Marco Halloran. Yeah. And Mark came into my podcast. Yeah. And I remember him saying saying he couldn't get a mortgage and he had no house and he's producing and directing and writing movies and he's on stage all the time and the bank wouldn't give him a mortgage. And I just remember that started then a pattern of whenever I would get and Brezzy was another one then. Brezzy came in and told me he couldn't get a house. And all these people started telling me People think once you're on telly or you're vaguely famous that you're rich.

14:05That's right. It ain't so. That's right, yeah. So eventually Mark got a house and I think Brezzy got a house and now you got a house. Yay! But it was a nightmare, was it? You know what? It wasn't so much as the difficulty getting the mortgage. Like I have a grand job. I've had a steady job for many, many, many years now. Almost 27 going on 28. I'm not saying no more about that. But it's just the fact, I suppose, if you're living in the capital city, if you're living in Dublin, rents are very, very high, always have been very, very high. And if you're paying a rent and saving for a mortgage at the same time, it is well nigh impossible because especially, I suppose I was there during the crash, the bad, bad times and the Celtic Tiger times.

14:40So when you were getting the 100, 110 % mortgages in some instances and then it crashed. So when there are the 110 % mortgages, the house prices were through the roof. Then the crash came and no one was giving out mortgages at all again. And then now when I got to a position where I could buy again, the prices were just going up and up and up and up and up. I'd bid, I'd bid, I'd have my deposit and the next thing it's gone up again. Give us an example actually. Can you think back to an example? I was bidding on an apartment. It was like 3.25. Ended up at 4.80. So you bid at 3.25. The asking price was 3.25.

15:16And you were outbid. I went up to 4.80. I dropped out way before that because I'm buying on my own. And I've heard about this. 3.25 to 4.80. That's the guide prices. But it's kind of ridiculous because of who you're competing with in the market now because yes, there's a limited stock of, I suppose, housing for people to buy but there were people institutional investors in buying, there was like professional landlords buying, there was charities buying there was council were buying so all these people are bidding plus the Joe Soaps like me so you've got every sort of person and institution bidding for let's say this apartment because it was a two bed apartment so when that happens and I think it's very indicative of the state of the country at the moment I'm a firm believer in housing should be built by the government and not let up to the private enterprise to build social housing.

16:10I think that is fundamentally what's wrong with the housing market here in Ireland. Social housing should be built by the government and that way it would free up everything. So you'd have the safety net that people who need social housing will get it when they need it and not have to wait 10 years and sleep on their mother's bedroom floor with their kids. That sort of thing. And then I think if that was freed up then by default everything would get a little bit easier. It wouldn't solve everything but it would solve a hell of a lot a hell of a lot of because if you look I went actually because in my work I have to know a lot about the political situation here in Ireland but if you tot up the money that has been actually spent in grants and incentives money to builders to build I mean you'd nearly buy a house for everyone on the waiting list in the country.

17:02If you had an independent housing body to build these things, I just think fundamentally the system's flawed. So you were outbid, but were you also gazumped? I wasn't gazumped. Okay, okay. I was never gazumped. Because gazumping is a pernicious, even worse, first further feature of this thing. And just for people who don't know what gazumping is, we've heard the name. Gazumping, I suppose, is when you have a greed and... You're gone sale agreed your deposit's gone over. You're gone sale agreed your deposit's gone over somebody comes in or sometimes an imaginary somebody comes in. The ethics are a bit dubious.

17:40Yes. So it doesn't so for example I'll share my own personal story years ago buying a house and we sale agreed and deposit was signed over and the owner said no we drove up yesterday and offered another bunch of money and we said Enough good luck? No, we said, if you don't sort this by the end of the day in our favour, we're withdrawing our offer. And you can go with this guy if you want to, but you don't know if he's going to be a real deal. We were told basically he just drove up, had a look and made the offer. Yeah. And so by the end of the day, they came back and they went with us. But we're still kind of going.

18:18We were still kind of going. Did it even happen? I'm very sceptical. What happened to me in all the times I was outbid and things like that, it's about the online system. because, you know, before you'd have your estate agent and you'd make the offer and they'd make sure everything was bona fide and all that sort of stuff. But now it's almost like an auction by default. So let's say bidding is, online bidding is closing at blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're literally bid, bid, bid, bid, bid. And people are joining in and you're like, who knows if they're real or not. And I think that's a huge problem.

18:49Now there is, as far as I know, some real estate agents do the thing whereby to actually bid, you have to provide your bona fides and your proof of funds. Yes, you do. All right. If you're an ethical one. Yep, but some don't. Some don't, and that's the thing. A lot of people are ethical, but a lot of people aren't. And it is, you can listen, it happened in the bad old days. I'm sure it's still happening now. But I just think it kind of makes me a little bit sick because if you and I remember the last time all this sort of mess happened and this whole never again, we're never going to let this happen again.

19:17It's happened again, except it's even worse. It's a different kind of happening again, yeah. Listen, at this stage, I'm absolutely thrilled because I was in the position where I was renting. The renting market is absolutely upside down now. Landlords are selling. Thank God I'd just gone sale agreed and my landlord told me. How long did you rent for? I know you rented for years and years but how long did you feel, because everybody's situation is peculiarly different. Did you feel vulnerable or insecure in the renting situation? Or did your particular landlord? Well, my landlord actually told me he was selling up the day about the week after I'd gone sale agreed and where I was, yeah.

19:52because I see I've So the landlord was going to sell Yeah You would have had to move I would have had to move but it's not the first time it's happened to me loads of times about four times I've been renting I've moved to Dublin when I was 17 for college and then I came back when I was 22 Yeah and then so I've been renting since then I think one, two, three, four I think five times I've had to move Yeah because the property's being sold so I was just Yeah I was done with it because I suppose Done, done, done Done, done, done, done and buying by yourself I suppose I've been I suppose interesting choices in my love life where I've lived with various people and it hasn't worked out.

20:26But now I get to the point you can only I think anyone can only rely on themselves. I mean before I probably would have bought with a partner. They wouldn't do that anymore because I had planned to before and that relationship didn't work out. But because of that I stymied myself by five years. So now and then since then obviously I've gone on thankfully to buy my place now. But it's a fixer-upper. I'm not going to lie. Well done. I mean, like, so I'm threading together little bits of information here, which is legal and I'm allowed because you said it on thing. Like, you are 49. I am 49. And you have received a mortgage on your own.

21:05Yes, I have. It's not a very long mortgage, but a mortgage nonetheless. I know. It's a huge mortgage because I have... It's not a very long mortgage. It's not a very... Because EBS just said you have 21 days to live or 21 months or years to live because everybody dies at 70. Yeah, I'd be working. We all die at 70. I won't be retiring when I'm young, put it that way, but you know, it is quite a relief to have a home. Do they, do your, a couple of interesting questions maybe, you mightn't be able to answer them. Yeah. But, because it applies to me as well. Do your lenders appreciate that you may have no interest in retiring age 60, 65 or anything and that you may wish to and will be able to possibly work well into your 70s?

21:44I didn't even ask. Do they not? Not at all. No, no. See, lenders are very, how do I put this? Actuarial. Thank you very much. They just look at what's coming in, what's going out, what you can save in. It's a numbers game but if the numbers match then off you go. It's like the way insurance people do car insurance. Yeah. So the actuary is in the insurance and they go, name, John Smith. Age, 26. Occupation. Occupation, journalist. Right, I'll go home. That's a, yeah. We'll add another two, ten grand to your policy. Four grand a year. Why do journalists get such a bad rapid driving? Actor. Drug addict.

22:19Yeah, there you go. Right. You know, so... The stats are probably in there. Do you know what it's called? It's called, because I did economics, it's called statistical discrimination. You did economics? In Trinity, yeah. What in the name of God are you doing impressions for a living? So you clown... Oh my good God. Sure, why not? I did economics, but you see, one of the things, I did economics and politics, but one of the joys of economics and politics... Look at you, Mr. Smart. I know, but it's that then I learned all about the politicians and I had a huge interest in politics. Yeah, I do too.

22:48So that means I was interested in watching them. Yeah. And then therefore... So therefore, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Healthy disrespect. Exactly. So, but anyway, it's called statistical discrimination. Statistical discrimination. They basically just go, are you a journalist? What odds are there that journalists drink? What odds are there journalists stay out late at night? What odds are there that journalists have unusual working hours? Is that what it is? And they do that, yeah. Woman. Woman. Menopause. flighty hot flushes really yeah all statistical discrimination emotional periods that time of the month yeah could drive into the back of a truck this is they build all this shit in do you know what of course women are the only ones with hormones exactly so that's why they say this car is a second hand car and it was driven by a 69 year old nun because she's never had sex she doesn't you never know I know plenty nuns okay well now Let us pray in Lourdes No no no You know the way There's lady insurance And everything Horny nun insurance Horny nuns Horny nuns are waiting For your call That doesn't sound Like an actual insurance Sister Annunciata Is ready It sounds like Something on a Pornhub or something Like that Sister Annunciata Is driving a Ford Fiesta Oh god So Anyway So basically If you're a 69 year old Nun in a Ford Fiesta There's zero chance You're going to have a crash Really?

24:13Yeah According to the statistical discrimination, guys. I'm not a fan of statistics. I don't like maths anyway. I never did. I'm crap at it. I'm fighting. So have you moved into the house? Well, I have moved into it. But there's two rooms done. The bathroom and half the sitting room and I have a bed. That's it at the moment. That sounds great. You kind of have to get it. And you're going to have a house shower or a christening of the house? Nah, but people, it's all my own nice new stuff. I don't want it wrecked. I've never thought I'd turn into a Are you house proud? It's a bombsite at the moment But are you generally But no I didn't think I was until I got my lovely sofa and I have a cream rug and I'm like I don't want to be red wine on a cream rug No no And I rented Gafford's Grant on my own And do you drink red wine?

25:03I do on occasion Yeah yeah yeah So do you drink white wine? No I'm not allowed to drink white wine You might have to move to the white White wine is the work of the devil The stains yeah Do you know white wine can affect some people really really badly I can't drink it I have it I have it You have it too I have it So I I just Now we're jumping around In conversation I adore red wine And red wine goes well with me Yeah Even my kids My 18 My 18 year old Boy Dash It's rather than me I mean you wouldn't be drinking it In the pub or anything No my 18 year old boy Dash And my daughter Bellamy She's 13 They go The other time when I'm out And stuff and I come back And they go You did your movement again When you came back And it's just this little I'm sort of doing a little dance now so I come back through the look like scrappy do the gate and I come back and I go yeah you've had your red wine but I go then he said but you're okay on it and I went what do you mean well you're kind of a cuddly friendly when you're on the red wine white wine is lady petrol white wine I turn into Satan it's the work of the devil I set up a face group many many years ago in my 20s and it's gone now I think white wine is the work of the devil you would be surprised the amount of people that white wine has a terrible effect I get toxic I turn my mother God rest her on her deathbed said please Nainsey never drink white wine Nainsey I had Nainsey that was my nickname Nainsey because anytime I used to drink white wine in my youth I'd go bananas I turn into a bit of a bitch yeah I just go psycho I start bitching about people and I start being antagonistic to the person who's with me you're meanie like just start going I start kind of do you know picking at them just picking at them being like you find a weak spot and just go at it but for no reason that's why it's the work of the devil I'm sure Satan actually made the first white wine vineyard.

26:44Right. So there are times though where you go, oh my God, I just would love a glass of maybe Chardonnay or Pinot Grigio. Pinot Grigio, really cool Pinot Grigio. Yeah, right. Crisp, crisp, or maybe even buttery. I like buttery as well. But then I realise it is Satan. It is. And you can feel it with the first step. You just go, but they're both wine. There's something in the enzymes. No, there's something I read about there. there is something in the enzymes I think it's something to do with sugar as well I don't know anyway it's terrible so you're the same as me an absolute asshole no way absolutely demon-esque yeah I grow horns literally Jesus yeah so do I yeah oh could you imagine if the two of us drank a bottle of white wine I am a tramp followed us under the camera it would be a carnage tramp recently then as well I had champagne right because we got JNLR it isn't it's worse because the bubbles the bubbles put it straight into your veins.

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27:41I started crying. Why were your chain lords that bad? No, they were... They were great. I know they were. So they should have... I shouldn't have been crying. I started going... I started... I was my best friend. How many did you have? Best friend came in. One. I don't know. That's more of it now, yeah. It was probably in that cup over there. My best friend came in and I was like, I love you so much. That kind of thing. And the next day he texted me. Dude, are you alright? You got a bit emotional there yesterday. No that's not good So it was white wine Mixed with champagne So I was toxic And crying Oh I'd love to have seen that I'd say that's very funny It was awful We should have a sociological experiment Put you in a room And observe I hope Patrick will feel This isn't too bad To edit Aetna He's going to have a nightmare There's so much I could talk to you about Actually so I'm not so sure Where to go next I think I'll just Wherever you want I know you're happy to go everywhere But like I've appeared On your show and everything Ireland AM You know and all this And I've appeared with Martin So many times over the years Martin King You do a great Martin King Yeah Is Martin King always happy?

28:41Pretty much, yeah. Are you sure? He only gets pissed off when he's watching Dubs lose. The Dubs lose. He's not a happy buddy when that happens. Anything to do with football if it's not going in Dublin's favour. And Chelsea. Oh, I can take or leave it really. But you know, it's the Dubs. It's the Dubs. The only time I've ever seen him unhappy. Because he's even an early morning on the weekend and everything. He's so happy. He is probably the nicest man I've ever met in my entire life. Yeah. He is a sure Martin's. Are you sure he doesn't come in and just go, fuck this, Elaine. I couldn't be, fuck this for a game of soldiers.

29:13No, and even if... I'm not doing the papers this morning. You do the fucking papers. Even if you wouldn't believe him. Do you know, he's just one of these... What if we gave him white wine? I'm not going to do this. He's a Sambuca man, would you mean? Sambucas! He's going to kill me for telling you that. I drink Sambuca. He does. He likes Sambuca. But he's just, I don't know what it is. Some people have different, I always assign colours to people. Martin is yellow. Yeah. He just comes in. He's kind of an orangey, yellow, glowy person. He's just, that's what he is. Yeah. Like he's, Martin is Martin and he's just great.

29:47He's one of life's, because I agree. He's one of life's good people. Exactly. He's not a bad bone in his body. I'm one of life's, my wife calls them, my wife calls people, well, you're either a well-wisher or not. Yeah. And she goes, he's a well-wisher. Yeah. That person who, their natural predisposition towards other people is to wish them well. I'm a bit of a cranky bitch now sometimes. Yeah, I go either way or the other. I can be absolutely lovely or I'm absolutely bananas. There's no two ways about it, but Martin is just, he doesn't, I don't think I've ever heard him giving out about anything.

30:19Yeah. And do you guys kind of socialise at all with each other outside of work? Not really. Not really. Because I'm, who does anything during the week? Same with Ian and me. Yeah. I mean, we see each other working on the crack. But like, you're so intense in work together, right? That it's like, don't feel like you're going out for a pint on Thursday, do you? Sure, he's so busy. he's got kids he's got a wife he's got the radio he's gigging left right and centre that man I don't know how he's still standing exactly but he must be exhausted yeah exactly but why would you be going out with each other as well as you know yeah well I would I'm sure have we actually ever but also there's always do's little do's see we miss all the work do's oh do you yeah because we work weekends and they're usually on a Thursday night and we're like we're in a Friday morning we can't do them I can't actually remember the last time it was at work too it was a bit unfortunate or maybe it's fortunate who knows yeah yeah yeah yeah and And that's going great, right?

31:08Oh, it's really strange because everyone's saying kind of the whole, I suppose, the rhetoric at the moment is that terrestrial TV and it's going downhill and blah, blah, blah. And I've been in Virgin Media slash TV3 for years. There's more people watching Ireland Day now than it was when I started news reading. Is it true? I swear to God, I can actually show you figures from the other day. Can you? I can. That's not just a wind-up. I swear to God, it's not a wind-up. I swear on my mother's grave, it's not a wind-up. Yeah. because I found it really it's but you know I always think like what TV do you watch?

31:44If you watch anything on TV Oh I watch a lot of TV So If I'm watching anything it tends to be live I watch live TV Yeah correct Because that's where TV is So I'll watch sport Live chat shows box sets Like recently I would have watched a lot of athletics I would have watched the archer Yeah glued to it Yeah glued to it Swimming I'll watch Channel 4 News at night nearly every night I record it and I watch a lot of CNN Yeah Because I'm one of those What's that all got in common though? It's live. It's live. It's immediate. And I think live and immediate TV is not going anywhere. It's a bit like radio.

32:11Correct. Radio. Podcasts are going to kill radio. They're not going to kill radio. No, they're not. They will live in harmony. Yeah. And they will interbreed. Completely, completely. If you want a long form interview from a radio show, you can do it and cut it down or whatever. But I think with televisions, particularly because I was a producer for 10 years, so I tracked the numbers like a mad thing, even though I'm... I love the numbers as well. I love the numbers. and I'm very into numbers like who's talking there and if there's a spike in the ratings and that sort of stuff but it is very true.

32:40I don't know about the rest of the week but I know from Friday, Saturday and Sunday because obviously they're the only numbers I care about. Yeah, absolutely flying it. Absolutely flying it. And so it's flying it because of life and two questions around that. Did you ever wonder why RTE never took you on? Took me on? No, took on TV3. Oh, I know why. Or Virgin. I know why. When it comes to breakfast shows.

33:05the way RT are structured and the way Virgin Media are structured we run a very lean ship and because it's so early RT couldn't afford to put it on and if it did it would cost them an awful lot of money for the percentage this is my theory anyway for the percentage of viewerships out there I mean for what we can do a chat show at I'd say you'd have to multiply it by at least 10 for RT to do it that goes for any show, whether it's to do with being unionised, whether it's due with different rates or like they're paid a lot in RTE in comparison. So I think it's purely financial. That's why RTE have never taken it.

33:49Yeah, because there's, as you indicated, a market share there. There is a market there. You know, I mean, there, you know, people are up in the morning and they do want to put the telly on. and if it's live especially they'll put it on and nowadays we're so if you like honed into the news so for example let's say something happened you would be you go straight you go straight to the TV to see what's going on yeah but if something happened Ireland AM no matter what they were doing would get it we'd interrupt it straight away we'd have to go straight into it that's just the way it is exactly I mean if something major happens internationally what do you do do you look at Instagram do you look at Twitter or whatever it's called now do you look at TikTok if you really want to know what's properly going on you don't really.

34:30No because it's still you're not sure. Yeah. Okay. And at least you know anything that is broadcast on terrestrial television. It has to be factored. It's gone through several levels and layers of trust. It's not just some eejit talking into their square box thinking they're a genius. So that's why you're right. You're right. So live is what works. Live and local. Live and local. And the other one was you were born in Newtown Pothouse. I was not. We've had this conversation. New 2 Pothouse. New 2 Pothouse. New 2 Pothouse. New to. New. New. Oh, so it's I'm new to Pothouse. I am new. I am two. I'm a pot.

35:04I'm a house. So I am. No, sir. Are you from Pothouse? No, I am new to Pothouse. Is that it? God, that's terrible. No, but is that it? It's new to Pothouse. New to Pothouse. Yeah. What a great name for it. It's a great name, isn't it? Yeah. Like Effin. Effin. Effin's great. Bastardstown. Oh, there's even better ones. Fannystown. Oh, there's even better ones than that. Well, don't say the obvious one. I'm not going to say that Eric Eric would say that The Blue Ball Yeah I heard that one I like that one The Blue Ball But then you've got Still Oregon as well You know that's kind of funny If you say that abroad Yeah Mickey Marov as it's known Mickey Marov yeah That's right Yeah I actually did a whole Half a show once On this very subject Yeah Strange Place You get such mileage Oh you do Yeah But it is fun And then the ones you don't realise That are really dirty Until someone who lives In a different country Goes oh my good god Yeah Yeah Like not the ones I just said like Still Oregon oh yeah yeah yeah we think Still Oregon is quite normal have you ever seen an American try to pronounce Greg Nimana no this is an experience yeah I try to avoid them when they're on holidays yeah now listen one of the things how do you feel about being a person who has had over the years no problem in talking about certain issues be specific well okay well in fairness I talk about everything I can't yeah no but you don't shy away from them so obviously body image clinical depression early menopause yeah listen being a bitch on white wine I haven't talked about that one before exclusive to you but like I'm literally held together by bits of pritt stick and glue and MacGyver put me together in what way I'm sure I'm physically in mental wreck but sure I'm still standing no you're not I'm a bit I'm a bit banjaxed and bonkers just for our listeners I'm going to you know I'm not going to go quick fire round almost quick fire round I'm not going to do this I'm not going to do this tell us about your clinical depression is your depression clinical?

36:58It's yes it's major depressive disorder wow MDD and that means that you need never going away you need to of course never going away also you need to manage it with medication yeah without being without prying are you allowed to say what kind of medication you're on or do you mind? I'm on an SSRI what's that? it's it's it's sounds like something that Simon Harris is going to let us invest in It's something serotonin reuptake inhibitor. Okay, so... So it's like the first one would be in Prozac. This is like sertraline. There's loads of other ones. So it allows your serotonin to come through. I'm not sure what it does, but it works.

37:31It doesn't inhibit it. Yeah. I don't know what it does, but it does the job. Or it inhibits the inhibitor. That might be what it is. No clue. Yeah. It does that. And so with this, it keeps you... You want to jump off a building. Good. And does it have any sort of... Do you take one a day or... Sorry for being... I take two a day. I just find it interesting. Yeah, I take two a day. Two a day. And if you didn't take it for a week? No, no difference. A month? Not a huge amount of time. A year? No, a year. No, no, no. I think it's about a six. It tapers off after about six weeks. Wow. So if you, let's say, go on holiday and you forget your medication, it's not the end of the world.

38:06But it's not recommended, but it's not the end of the world. But some of them, if you stop taking them on the Monday, you'll feel it by the Tuesday. Not this one. Was it a godsend to you? To find it? No, not really. Because I went on it first when I was 17. and then I was obviously very much in denial I went to some people can go on it for five months it fixes whatever bump in the road they have and then they're never on it again and that's the way I had hoped I was so I was on and off things like this for years and then when I was kind of in my mid to late 30s I just said fuck it I have to my psychiatrist was who I'd just gone to see because you know actually seeing a psychiatrist is a massive step it was for me anyway psychologically and then I was like yeah come on just have to face up this ain't going anywhere so just go with it so I did and I haven't well I have looked back obviously but you know it's something I don't have a choice about in my life I wouldn't be here if I didn't have the obviously I'm not a doctor as you know I know you might be forgiven for thinking I am with my inhibitors my knowledge of statistical discrimination and inhibitors but if I was your doctor I would I would probably if I was your doctor an amateur doctor right I'd probably go now well sorry he's not Martin King either, the doctor.

39:19I was wondering where you're going with this. I was sort of half Luke O 'Neill. Okay. But anyway, I probably... You played a doctor in Glenrow, be him. I did, yeah. Oh no, he was terrible though. I know. But the, I would probably say, yeah, drinking half a bottle of Pinot Grigio is grand. But it probably isn't. Or is it okay? They say, is it okay to... Anything in, listen, I'm not going to lie, I'm a moderate. I go out, I have crack, but I'm not going to be drinking bottles of wine every day or anything like that. I think if you're prone to depression, it does bring you down a lot alcohol yeah of course it does if you're not depressed it brings you down for God's sake but I'm just saying you take some medication yeah but it's not the only medication I take right so I'm on a raft of stuff for various different ailments and stuff oh yeah oh God yeah I used to see my little thing it's like my mother god rest her I'm rattling around the place nine a day I'll tell you now one two three five oh five there's a tour there's a tour there's a five my HRT it's rubbed in the arm very important yeah so I I have a few bits I'm a hormonal mess you see yeah yeah speaking okay you might as well jump in there you've opened the you've opened the that's an open goal for me there right so thanks I'm going to go in here funny but the headlines of this I'm actually good crack people believe it or not because if you open goal Martin King just heard HRT I'm going in with early menopause if you believe sometimes I look at the headlines Early menopause?

40:45And it's like, oh yeah, early menopause. I sound like the most miserable. I know you're not. If anybody listening to this interview would know that you're a great crack. But if they don't know me, it's like, oh Jesus. No. Banging on at a depression and early menopause. I'm the one bringing it up. I know, but I'm saying sometimes I read the headlines about myself. That's why I want this interview not coming across like that. Oh yeah, no it won't anyway. But you had early menopause in your 30s. Yes, clapped out ovaries. I'm serious. I've heard of perimenopause, which is early, which is that the whole thing if it's perimenopause I started perimenopause way earlier and it's a part of see and if you have depression or anything like that and having something like that on top of it like hormones is a nightmare and then actually through my early menopause discovering how ADHD as well because you can't mask the symptoms anymore Do you have ADHD as well?

41:35Absolutely brilliant I know You are I told you I'm a mess I'm a specimen I am a specimen so yeah where was I going with that and we're allowing you on TV every day but I'm really really good in crisis over and out to the basket case yeah but masking I mask it very well to be fair yeah these things these things can be so yeah early menopause yeah so that wasn't that wasn't great because yeah obviously I didn't know I was getting is there a tinge of sadness in that sorry if I'm not yeah I didn't realise it at the time now in hindsight I was devastated but looking back now But I had to keep going because in the greater scheme of things, I'm a believer in like, it's not the end of the world.

42:19So, but it did, I suppose, rob me of the future I thought I would have in a way, but I didn't realise it at the time. Had you envisaged it to being part of your future? Yeah, completely. I always presumed I'd have. You come from a family of 10 children. I've got a family of 10, I've got 20. I just kicked three, the nephews out this morning. They were over in a game in Cardiff, landed from the airport into me last night. I'm a very welcoming person and I adore kids but it was something I presumed would always happen and I'll never forget it and I've said this before when I went in and I was on air I was doing midday at the time and I kept having to wear black clothes because I was like no matter what I did I was piling on weight Right Nothing I did I would go on fasts for two weeks and everything and these hot flashes and sweats in my hair and I was only in my early 30s and I was going to the doctor and one of the doctors actually said you know what we better test you for Hodgkin's lymphoma because that so I was like shit I might have cancer because that's one of the symptoms because I was too young to be getting this degree and when I'm talking about hot flashes I mean like my entire hair would be drenched wet I mean my clothes would be wet and would it be on telly sometimes yeah oof it was horrible and would you have to get like sorry for being yeah sorry for being a bit but I have to drink cold water and have the fan and all that sort of stuff but when you took a break and everything would you ask the makeup ladies to come in I'd have my makeup bag behind me all the time my own stuff yeah I took my own makeup you know don't need anyone to do my makeup you know we're very self-sufficient they're a virgin but Adrienne isn't still there is she?

43:46She is actually she's the boss now she's the boss of makeup I love Adrienne she's brilliant she is she is but where was I oh yeah the yeah so it was but I think it was such a relief in not being more serious initially that I was like okay that's not so bad but then I was in work when I got the results one set of results and I was like okay I could be in perimenopause so that's fine and your hormones are a little bit wonky. I could have 10 years. And then another test came back and it's kind of your egg reserve. And I remember getting that. And my sister was a fertility nurse and she'd had a load of IVF herself.

44:19And I sent her back and she went, oh no Nancy, I'm so sorry. And I knew then that was it. Like it was literally through the floor. So, and I went to the edit suite. I cried for a little bit. But I was AP at the time, which is the news AP. So I had a 12 hour shift. I had the 5.30 news to do. I had the 6.30 news at the time to do. We had the late news to do. And I was assisting the producer and all that. So I didn't have time to give too much about it. So I kind of got on with it then. But I think it affected the way I viewed relationships hugely because I suppose if I thought like the kids aren't in the offing, why bother?

44:53You know, and it really did. So I suppose I'm just trying to dream this up now, but I suppose you would be thinking to yourself, you would be game, you would be going to date with somebody. There'd be war gaming situations in your mind. So you'd be going, I'm going to go for a date with this fella. If I do like him, then I'm going to have to at some stage tell him then I may not be able to have children. As it is, no, may not be able to. Will not be able to have children. And then, yeah. Good luck. Where's that going to go? Exactly. And do I even want to face up to that situation? Do I want to bring it this far?

45:20Yeah. So why don't I just put it on my Tinder profile? Yeah. Won't be having babies. Well, I went on Tinder. I never did that kind of dating. I went on Tinder in London for two days once. Got an awful fright and went off it then I went back to the old fashioned way. They're very nice. I wanted to meet for brunch and things. Yeah. On Tinder. And Tinder in London. Yeah, I was only, I was in London. So, you say London Tinder was nice. Yeah, I wasn't on it in Dublin, but I'd heard nightmares about all sorts of booty calling at all hours of the day. Yeah. So, I didn't want any of that over there. So, anyway, it's like shopping for willies.

45:50Like, I didn't like that. Yeah. It's like, this swiping business is like picking stuff online, picking a skirt or a top or a pair of shoes. So, nah, didn't like that. I like meeting people in real life. Sure. So, yeah. Where was I with that again? Shopping for willies. Shopping for willies, yeah, as you do. And I thought it was a boudon The boudon? Hmm? I thought it was a boudon Bud Bud? Bud I feel that Bud That sounds like you like You sound like Josie Marino now with your bud No no I sound like Dahi O'Shea Oh no Bud Bud Bud Penis as Gaelge Willy as Gaelge I don't need that in my mind Willy as Gaelge is bud Thanks Anyway Do you know what he said?

46:29He said Do you have ADHD too? No Are you sure? Positive Okay and I'll be the last to go you all can get it yeah I've had it a long time I'll be the last I didn't talk about it though I ain't conceding I'm not conceding to this ADHD it's great cracker there's no letters after my name superpower I've loads of them PCOS MDD what else are I ADHD what else Dahe said to me once he said because Dahe is Dahe comes from kind of a Shan a Shan Uccle background his dad was a Shan Aki I remember Dohi when he was back in the TG Carr days actually he was dating at the time a girl who lived in my old building when I was a newsreader 20, 30 years ago well long, long time ago in Bethlehem Exactly yeah and he's a brilliant guy I love Dohi and I've always thought he was underrated by RTE but anyway that's another issue Happens a lot of them Yeah but anyway he'd come on and I'd ask him tell me about Irish more about Irish give me, you know tell me, enrich me with Irish because my uncle Gabriel Rosenstock before he died this year which is one of Ireland's best and most noted Gael Gores and poets and so I used to pick up a lot of Irish stories from him and stuff like that but Dali would tell me great words you know and one of the words he told me this year was he says what about this one Mario Bud Brega Bud Brega and I went Bud Brega Bud I did know Bud Bud is penis I've never heard Bud before if I said to you Breg on

48:03A dildo Yay A vibrator Budbrega Budbrega That's a great A vibrator A vibrator And just to hear Dahi Just to hear Dahi O'Shea say Vibrator Is just You pay your money in for that God That's your nickname There you go now Thank you very much White wine Third glass of wine Budbrega Budbrega God Isn't that a good one So Clinical depression early menopause Martin King not an asshole and is it true that once you were described by a by a critic as the robust one do you know what the robust one was what the newsreaders of TV3 were called they called the Times called us the Stepford Wives what and I was did they Colette and myself and Grainne we were all bobs like we all looked kind of similar like darker Stepford Wives alright Stepford Wives and there was the witch one the Gwail Gore one the other one and I was the robust one The robust one?

49:03You wouldn't mind I was a bit two stone lighter than I am now then Oh for fuck's sake The robust one Where is that going? I know The robust one That's funny though Talking to her floor manager at the weekend You must That's funny No Once I was reading the news I wore my hair up kind of very swept up on a very elegant bun and someone texted God Elaine is she looking well today chunky but classy. Fucking hell. We still laugh about it. I know. People are so cruel. Yeah. But yeah, I still meet people all the time going, God, you don't look half as big in real life as you do on telly. Oh, yeah. She listened.

49:42I'm not a girl. I didn't get that. The obvious like. Yeah. You're better looking in real life than on telly. You're not as fat in real life as on telly. Thought you were fatter. You're taller in real life. I thought you were taller. you're smaller I love when you go no offence but and then they proceed to offend you roundly or this idea that they start talking about you but you're beside them yeah and you're sort of going do you not know I can hear everything you're saying yeah it's funny I'm actually here with you oh boy that's a funny one that's the worst thing you got what? what's the worst one of those you got of looking things of people talking about you and you right next to them kind of thing was I don't personally find you funny at all but there's a few people I know who do So can I have a selfie?

50:33Kind of thing Yeah They could have an insult before the ask So they're doing two things to you They're asking for something and insulting you at the same time and they're still expecting a result Yeah But you can't be You have to be nice That's fine Yeah And do you know what It is fine because I guess I'm a nice person and that makes a difference Yeah that you're no Roy Keane well I think he's a nice person I think he's gas I love him yeah but like if you came up and said that to Roy Keane I don't like you but he'd drop kick you to the moon most likely yeah he'd probably give you a funny look and go you know yeah he'd probably give you a funny look alright but it's not always other people's fault do you understand so when somebody comes up and insults you and then asks for something that's not necessarily who they are yeah the Irish way They're having a moment And they're a bit flustered And they're not being their best Do you know this expression Who's going to get flustered You know what I'm like Do you know what I'm No but No but No no no But there's somebody They're interested in right now Oh So you might as well be Bono You're Bono now I get you You're Bono now God forbid And so they're So like They're not being their best selves And that's fine Just tolerate it Move on Yeah And then And then you know So But you're still used to then obviously being people commenting on you.

51:57Oh, yeah. That's a constant, isn't it? Ah, sure, of course. Myron. So who's on to me about this? Myron. Myron did a good bit of talking about this, actually. And also talking, which was really, this took me aback. This thing about women's personal safety. She still said she walked home with keys in her hand. Her car keys in her hand. Do you know that kind of thing? In the daytime. I don't know if it was in the time of the day or whatever night it was but she was conscious of that. Yeah, I suppose. I thought that was really interesting as well. I used to do it when I was in college a lot and walking a lot at night time but I suppose I don't really do, I wouldn't walk alone by myself a lot.

52:41I wouldn't feel safe. I live in town, I live in Dublin City Centre and it's changed an awful lot over the last while and for the worse it's a lot less safe than it used to be. You notice, yeah? Okay, hugely. Absolutely hugely. What time frame? Anytime. No, what time frame are you talking about? 10 years over the last 10 years or five years? It started getting bad. Since COVID, it's got really, really bad. Really, really bad. And before that, I think basically since they started cutting the number of guards after when they're making all those cuts. Years ago, when I've seen it getting worse, the recruitment and retention isn't what it used to be.

53:17And you can see it. You can see it. There's gangs of youths. youths. I know a lot of the right wing fraternity would like to blame migrants for this but from my experience as gangs of kids and they might, I'm not talking about 17, 18, I'm talking about 12, 13, 14, wandering around breaking into stuff, causing trouble, anti-social behaviour and it's getting worse and that's what's, I'd be a hell of a lot more scared to walk past a group of 12, 13 year old boys than I would to be walking past a group of migrants any day of the week. It's very intimidating. Yeah, yeah. I mean anybody who's listening to this podcast now you can get on to me and you know how to get on to me mariorosenstock at gmail.com it's a personal email I use I have Elaine Crowley at hotmail.com that's how old we are Mario we've got the OG emails exactly but they can talk to me on they can get back to me on this email because maybe about what Elaine said there about Dublin becoming noticeably more dangerous feeling noticeably more dangerous with gangs of marauding youths.

54:20People don't live in Dublin anymore either. Yeah, that's right. But like I was in, and you can test me about this if you want to, but I was in, you know, I go to Rome a good bit because we just like it. And one of the things you find in the centre of Rome, right, is tanks and lads with enormous muscles and submachine guns just standing there. And believe me, if you see those lads, you're not going to fuck around. I'm sorry now. I draw the line. at submachine guns. I feel safe. I don't. I don't trust anyone with a gun. Oh, I feel safe. No. I feel safe. Sorry, it's a rifle, right? I feel safe with a responsible member of the military in their tanks.

55:01Responsible. Yeah, but they are. No, I don't like guns. Okay. Well, no, I hate guns, but I'm saying that I think... I think if there's a bigger guard or presence, of course it would be better. I think that's exactly what I'm saying. A strong, a strong presence But people don't live. Dublin isn't a city, isn't a place where people live. The communities in Dublin are being destroyed. I mean, every shop in Dublin, every cafe, everything, should have apartments and people living above them and living in the city. That would be lovely. But it's not. It's dead at night time now. It is dead. That's why it's dangerous because it's not a living, breathing city at night time.

55:38It's changed a lot. That's another massive issue. And it's not just Dublin. Look at any town, any town or city around the country the same thing is happening there boarded up as well and it's funny people talk about shops being boarded up but there's loads of vape shops bookmakers and you know those kind of one pound shops as well and chippers iPhone fixing shops iPhone fixing shops yeah so it's that's a bit grim it's a bit seedy I often look at I'm sorry I often look at O 'Connell Street and go what potential it has to be such a beautiful grand street I know that's O 'Connell Street is a street I don't feel safe on I know at any time of the day or night yeah yeah which is such a shame such a shame it shouldn't be like that and congratulations well congratulations for moving in there anyway thank you very much that's what Connell Street does well Lorraine you just nearly called me Lorraine Lorraine Lorraine we have come to the end of our conversation and I really enjoyed it I love seeing you you're such a I don't know we get on well together and you're easy to talk to and you're doing something aren't you you're doing you do what you are I am the great pink run I'm an ambassador for Breast Cancer Ireland and the Great Pink Run is every year in Cork, Kilkenny and Dublin and the 29th of August it is in Dublin greatpinkrun.ie still time to register if you want to do so because you know researching a cure and all that I suppose for me it's the Great Pink Walk very fast I'm not the best at running you should come it's a bit of fun and you participate I participate I mean of course you lost some members of your family loads of them already see I'm YOLOing to feck at the moment you only live once because we're genetically cursed in my family so God knows how long I'm on this planet.

57:18Yeah, genetically cursed but you're genetically gifted as well Elaine because you look so well and congratulations and happy birthday. Thank you very much. Yeah and He jumped out of cake for me earlier with tassels it was beautiful. Well, happy birthday Elaine. Thank you Mario. Thank you for coming in. Take care. Thank you.

57:40And my thanks to Elaine Crowley for coming in and talking to me. I always have such a fun afternoon talking to Elaine. And thank you, of course, to Hum for getting involved in the podcast and being our partners. Most importantly, of course, as always, thank you to you, the listener. Get in touch, mariorosenstock at gmail.com. If you have any suggestions for guests, characters, new comedy sketches I could be doing, new comedy characters I could be doing, or just to get something off your chest, let me know. Talk to you soon. See you same time, same place next week. The Maria Roselstock Podcast.

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From the publisher

Elaine Crowley was generous enough to join me in the studio to record this episode on her birthday! And we had so much fun. Elaine has finally bought her own home after years of renting, so we get into the madness of the Irish housing market, the realities of buying on your own and the relief of finally having a place to call your own.

We also talk about life on Virgin Media’s Ireland AM, why Elaine believes live television is in better health than people might think, the future of TV and if Martin King really is as sounds as he comes across on the show.

Elaine and I also discover that white wine turns both of us into demons, I teach her some highly questionable Irish courtesy of Dáithí Ó Sé, and we chat about the unforgettable occasion Elaine was described as “the robust one” by a journalist.

Elaine is honest, hilarious and completely herself. Enjoy the chat.

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