Morning Guys! Just jumping on with D4 guy Rory O’Hanlon

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1:14Coming up on this episode of the Mario Rosenstock Podcast. I spend a lot of time, right, in Dublin Airport. Travelling, right? and Dublin Airport is a nightmare. That Terminal 1, I call it the ILAX Centre, Terminal. Do you know what I mean, man? And I put up a video going, guys, we need to get a different airport here. This is a disaster. I did it as just like, just as a person from Dublin 4. Okay. So yeah, I just put out a video going, I'm heading away golfing, I'm in Terminal 1, this place is a disaster, need to sort it out ASAP. I'm thinking Cherrywood. Do you know what I mean? So put that out and that lot got 100 ,000 views.

2:03Rory O 'Hanlon had spent over 20 years doing stand-up in clubs, open mic nights, corporate gigs, anywhere there was an audience that was into comedy and his comedy. And he was doing pretty well. Shugging along, says you. But then he started to record short pieces to camera in the character of a, was a stereotypical Dublin four guy. Very confident, mad into rugby and golf, no clue about GAA, and obsessed with what school you went to. What school you go to? And very quickly, Rory's comedy career took off like a rocket. That video he recorded in the airport got 100 ,000 views. Next one he did got a million.

2:42Rory now has over 150 ,000 followers on Instagram and 1.3 million likes on TikTok. And his viral videos led to his first Irish and UK tour last year. He's also performed sold out shows at Dublin's Three Olympia, the Gaiety and Ambassador Theatres and performed solo at the Edinburgh, Adelaide, Perth and Melbourne Comedy Festivals. So Rory, aka D4Guy, joined me in the Go Loud studio for a great chat about the many years he spent learning his craft, dealing with rejection and keeping on grafting until things really hit the big time for him. And of course, he takes us deep inside the world of the aforementioned D4 guy.

3:21Private schools, Leinster and Irish rugby, property, finance, SUVs, networking, and an apparently unshakable sense that life is going pretty well. Morning, guys. This is a quick one. I wanted to jump on. That came from I can't get over the confidence of people on Instagram. Guys, this is the outfit of the day. No one cares what you're wearing. And every Irish influencer, they're all wearing the same clothes. It's like, my shoes are River Island, my jeans are River Island, and my bag is Zara. I saw a thing saying that Ireland was in, I think it was like second in education in Europe. So I said that and I said, obviously it's because of Mary's, Michael's, Turner, Blackrock, Longhouse.

4:03And I put that out. Now I get people from Gonzaga like DMing me, going, I love your stuff, but seriously, Gonzaga has to be in the top five. I was listening to a rugby podcast. They were talking to this ex-rugby player. And he was like, he's just sitting there. He was retired. I was like 33 or so. The guy who was interviewing was ex-Munster and the guy being interviewed was ex-Leinster. And it's just like, these two lads are so different. They were talking about something and the Leinster guy goes, yeah, but that's just Nugget. Nugget's like that. And I just thought, that is just gold. Rory will be taking D4 Guy around Ireland over the next few months.

4:37But it's not just D4 Guy he does. He has a whole set that he does of observational comedy. So check out roryohanlon.co.uk to find out where you can catch him live. But you can catch him here in conversation with me in around three minutes time, right after we head to County Clare, where Trump has just touched down. But before Trump touched down, there was huge, huge trepidation about how the government would deal with him. And more especially, how Catherine Connolly might deal with him in her expected meeting with Donald Trump this weekend. We join Michal and Willie O'Dea, who are waiting to see Catherine at Horace on Uchturon.

5:15Uh, Willie, I'm extremely concerned going forward about President Connolly meeting Trump. I know, she's a loose cannon, me hod. President Connolly will be with you in a moment, gentlemen. Uh, thank you. She makes one false move, and Trump could send in the bombers. Sorry? Next thing you know, Cork is levelled. Cork? Why not Limerick? Why would he go to Limerick? Sir, you're the Taoiseach. Oop-dur-on, no-he-ren. Ah, President Connolly. Majin-wa-choo Taoiseach. President Connolly, ahead of President Trump, the visit. We just want to walk through some tactics, make sure you don't say anything that could...

5:51That could what? Well, that could get us in trouble, so to speak. Trip Lloyd. It's a courtesy call, you understand. We have to be careful what you talk about. What would you like me to talk to President Trump about, Tyshik? Everyday banter going forward. Like, for example, the weather. Gert galore. Climate change. What Trump has done is outrageous. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not climate change. Whatever you do. Jesus, not climate change. Look, look, look, President Connolly, we thought we might have a little rehearsal before President Trump arrives. Oh, can we rehearse when the man himself is not even here?

6:26Ah, well, you see, going forward, Willie O'Dea here does a great President Trump, don't you, Willie? Make America great again. Tremendous. It's uncanny, isn't it? He looks nothing like him. Stick on the wig, Willie. I look stupid with the wig, Willie. Stick on the wig, Willie. Okay, Catherine. Let's just try and get through a simple conversation. All right, Liv. I shall do my best. Okay, go on, Willie. President Canley, beautiful country, great country. We like great countries, wealthy country. A lot of wealth. Wealth, you say? Well, there is also a great amount of wealth inequality. As exemplified by your horrific system of capitalism.

7:04Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold the horses, Catherine. You only lasted four seconds there going forward. I'm not good. To lie to the President of the United States? You don't have to lie. You just have to temporarily misplace the truth. You can't do that. Fina Fala, I've been doing it for over a hundred years, Catherine. I'm sorry. I have to take this call. Sure. President Connolly. Michael D. Higgins. Take a while, too. Viva Cuba. Viva Cuba. I see you are meeting Trump on Saturday. Do you want me to come along for moral support? No, that won't be necessary. I give him both barrels. What? Do you remember how I took no truck from Trump?

7:39I don't recall. I told him to shove it, you big orange bollocks. Sorry, I have to. Will you hold the line, please? Yes. Okay, Catherine, let's try rehearsal number two going forward. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this situation. I know, Catherine. I wish to speak my truth. I will not be muzzled by a monster. Now, hold on, Catherine. Oh, Jesus. What is it, me boy? It's Trump on FaceTime. Oh, Jesus. I can't take this. I can't take it. You have to take it, me boy. I can't. You're risking a mushroom cloud all over, Clark. Hello, President Trump. I was just... I'm looking forward to visiting your great country, Michael.

8:15It's me, Hal. I love Ireland. That's a huge relation. But Ireland's been ripping us off for years. It's time to make some changes for the weekend. Ah, no, I wouldn't... This weekend, the Cliffs of Moher will be henceforth renamed as the Cliffs of Magga. Ah, now, hold on. The Kinegad Plaza will become Trump Plaza. No, no, no, it's Plaza. It's blazer, like China. No, no, blazer. And that thing in Dublin. What thing are you talking about? The giant prick. There's a few of them. No, the big pointy needle thing. Oh, the spire, the spire. The spire. From now on it will be known as Trump prick. Now hold on, Mr.

8:55President. And I will be meeting your disaster of a president. She's a disaster. Catherine Communist. Will you cover her mouth? She's a radical left lunatic whack job. Ah! It's me horse. She bit me. Give me the phone. No. This is President Catherine Connolly. Catherine, please. No, you listen here, you bloated buffoon. You fake-tanned fascist felon. Oh, Jesus. Ireland will not bow down to the imbecilic barkings of a tin-pot dictator. We're finished. I like her. She's frisky. Very strongly hostile. Great television. Catherine, we're going to have a tremendous meeting. I don't believe it. She's fantastic.

9:36Can we do it live? Oh, come forward. Yes, indeed. Good luck with that. And that sketch was recorded just a couple of days ago for the Ian Dempsey Breakfast Show on Today FM. And I really like those sketches. They're a bit like a farce, a bit like a kind of a faulty towers sort of farce situation. And I enjoy doing those. They take ages to write them. Okay, before we get into today's show, first of all, you can contact me directly, mariorosenstock at gmail.com if you want to get in touch with me about anything. New characters I should be doing, a sketch that you thought of that you might want me to bring to life on the radio, new guests that I haven't thought of that you'd love to hear.

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12:38Well I won't say that now So we would put you on And we would just laugh Yeah yeah The thing about it is You'd come up with a new one Like every day So it was like You were just coming in and out You were everywhere And you were really viral And are really viral But So that's how I first came to Know you But then I found out about you A little bit And obviously Like it turns out that you know you've been around a long time yeah yeah as a comedian yeah and so after after a number of years 20 years you're an overnight success oh listen man overnight two videos I'm only joking no no no no like no it's funny because you know people will say that to you like oh just you did a couple of videos and blah blah blah but I was in the trenches for like 20 years like you know but I love doing stand up so I didn't really I didn't I only got into this really at a like because as a stand-up, you work nights.

13:33Do you know what I mean? Obviously, you work night time. And I'm big into sports. Me too. So I was just, you'd just hear, you'd hear people commenting on Irish rugby and blah, blah, blah. And I just thought, and then I was watching the Six Nations and I just kind of, I'd be listening to a couple of podcasts and I'd hear what they'd be like. The rugby pundits are brutal. As in like, they're very direct. They're very like, they take the players down very harshly and stuff like that you know what I mean so I just do you know what I did I just kind of counteracted the grief that the Leinster players were getting if you know what I mean and I would kind of make them better if you know the type of way go on as if I'd say like I would be very pro the players from from say Dublin 4 just for because it's more your character would be or you yeah the character would be do you know what I mean and then it kind of just it just escalated from that like I'd even kind of go like it was a great game like yeah even the Munster guys gypped in, do you know what I mean?

14:30And you could just kind of go from there on it. Well, let's talk about D4 Guy later. Yeah, no worries. But it's you I'm interested in from the start. So I'm watching this creation and you're producing lots of videos and Dash is showing that to me and my son as well and we're laughing at them. And we kind of, part of the fun is you kind of know who you are. Yeah, yeah. You know what you're going to get. Yeah, yeah. But you look forward to it anyway. Yeah, it's gas-like. Yeah, yeah. So there's two types of, in a way there's two types of jokes in the world. Yeah. The joke that surprises you and the jokes that you go, you know what it's going to be but you still like the getting there.

15:05It's gas, isn't it? I was in London recently and I met this guy and he just came up to me and goes, oh, you're the D4 guy. I said, yeah, yeah, I am. Yeah, how's it going? Blah, blah, blah. And we're just chatting away and it was kind of like, he actually said to me, he goes, I know it's the same thing every time but it doesn't get boring. Yeah, exactly. I just thought like, that's kind of like the ultimate compliment isn't it really like it's the same thing every time but it doesn't get boring but like part of that is the fact that the D4 guy's character in itself is relentless yeah he's always going to be the same 100 % and he's going to treat everybody else the same yeah yeah everybody the same way you know he's going to say what school did you go to all the time why would you change yeah totally it works for him yeah yeah yeah it works for you as a comedian but it also works for D4 guy it's always worked for him absolutely yeah yeah you know because they're in that world like do you know what I mean They're in that world where everything works.

15:57But anyway, again, so for 20, like, so what were you doing before it started? Do you know what? I think the last job I had, I know the last job I had, I was working as a van driver, courier. For? For DHL. Okay. So just doing, doing deliveries all around South County Dublin. And that is South County Dublin. Yeah, yeah. And that means, of course, you see a lot of people, meet a lot. Yeah, yeah. Well, I was, I was, I had been, And the actual area that I was covering was like, Cliny, Dorky, Shank Hill. Yeah. So I was delivered to, I was actually delivering stuff to Bono. Do you know what I mean? Go away.

16:36Yeah, I met The Edge. Was The Edge in Bono's house? No, no, no. He was in his own gaff. Yeah. He's only two doors down the road from Bono. In Cliny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I knew it was The Edge, because he was the only The Edge on the road. Do you know what I mean? Obviously, yeah. There aren't many The Edges on the same road. There's not many The Edges around there. So did Edge come in? Yeah, he did, yeah. And I buckled completely. And was he wearing his beanie? He just came down with the guitar singing out by the streets. Was he wearing his beanie? I think he was, yeah. I think the beanie comes with the edge, doesn't it?

17:03It does, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. I think that gets up out of bed first. Yeah, man. I presume when he's in bed, the beanie is just on like a head beside the bed. Yeah. And he gets up and lashes it on and hits the road. Oh, totally, yeah. So, yeah. But that's what I had been doing. Yeah. And what else did you do? As in? Jobs. Oh, yeah. I wasn't great in school. So, yeah, I was... But you went to... I was in Turner. Yay, one of the top five. You know what I mean? One of the big five. One of the big five, which is completely of my making. Do you know what I mean? This isn't... I don't know how true...

17:37This isn't even true. I just saw... I saw a thing saying that Ireland was in... I think it was like second in education in Europe. Yes. So I said that and I said, obviously it's because of Mary's, Michael's, Turner, Blackrock, Longhouse. Yeah. And I put that out and then that kind of got traction do you know what I mean but now I get people surely Gonzaga are in that I think that's fair for being absolute maybe it is I think Gonzaga have a fair shot at being see the only problem is Taryn Neuer are better at rugby generally and that's what I would be that would be my emphasis is on sport yeah but then if you start going down the rugby thing you'll allow Newbridge Newbridge into the top 5 and we can't go there no you can't go there like so so like I would have had like you do have people from Gonzaga like DMME.

18:27Absolutely. I love your stuff but seriously. Yeah. Gonzaga has to be in the top five. Yeah, totally. The big five. And well they feed half the law. Oh yeah, well all the doctors every person that works in the Beacon I think went to Gonzaga. Yeah, that's right. All the lawyers are all Gonzaga. So they're the brains of the operation. They are, yeah. Is Belvo in there as you said? It's on the north side. It can't be. Yeah, okay. Belvo is on the north side but it's very much like the Vatican. Yeah. It's its own state on the north side. Yeah, exactly. It's a mini little independent republic. It blew my mind when I first found it.

18:58Some people still don't know that that was on the Northside. I know. So when did comedy come? When did comedy start? I'll tell you a funny story. It was always in the back of my mind that I wanted to do stand-up or I wanted to act or something along the lines of laughter. You know, make people laugh. Because as a kid, I could always make people laugh in school or whatever. Were you funny in school? Oh, yeah. It was funny everywhere. Do you know what I mean? And were you funny? What kind of funny? Were you funny at slagging? I was good at slagging, yeah. I think if you've got red hair in Ireland, you have to be good at slagging.

19:32You have to fight back. People are going to come at you. Yeah. You come back at them. And so, yeah. No, just be witty. Quick, quick, witty. Yeah. Smart. Sort of known in the class, let's say, as a little bit of a smart art. But I think all the class I was in, pretty much everybody was like that. Do you know what I mean? So would the teacher be going, oh, Hanlon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but like back in the day, man, like if you have, if a teacher's looking out and they see like 20 kids, they're always going to remember the red-headed kid. Do you know what I mean? Okay. So I always thought I could do something along the lines of that, but I wasn't too sure.

19:59So basically what happened was I was driving the van one day and I was doing a delivery into a place in Clendalkin. And I just heard an ad on the radio, I think it was on Newstalk actually, saying there was a guy doing a comedy workshop in Dublin in Doyle's and College Green. So I said I'd do that. and I rang him and I signed up for that and I did that and it was like five Mondays in a row or something in Doyle's and you'd go in and you'd workshop material you'd do you'd do like kind of stuff it was like they would give you ideas of how to work on confidence of how to you know how to write how to perform how to get it from your your head onto paper how to that got my foot in the door as such like do you know what I mean so at the end of that you do like a gig like it was like a a graduation type thing I think there was like 50 people there like do you know what I mean Okay well that's 50 people's a nice crowd but not easy Not at all and one thing about my experience of stand up is there's always certain people are really good from the get go do you know what I mean some people are just boom they pick it up they may be telling stories that they've always told and they'll transfer that into their stand up so there was a couple of people on that were really good but I wasn't I was kind of like I found it difficult to transfer the the laughter what I thought was funny into a performance like do you know what I mean so the first gig I did wasn't great like it was like it was just like okay I did that anyway and that was good fun yeah and that was fine do you know what I mean I need to do I need to do a better gig I need to get another another shot at it you showed some obviously inner resilience in yourself you were obviously able to give yourself some form of pep talk that said yeah yeah yeah okay that was fine you've got over it let's keep going other people might have gone oh my god that scared me I don't want to do that again I would have always had the kind of mindset of going you can do this you can get relax now just sort of get on with it trust yourself trust your your confidence in what I was always kind of like even as a kid like I'd always go it would take me a while to kind of be confident but I always knew that I could be confident So after that first gig what happened?

22:05That was November and what happened was Ciarán gave us a load of contacts in Dublin and I saw I texted Tony Ferns who used to run the Battle of the Axe in the Haypenny Bridge Inn on a Tuesday night. So I did my first gig in November and my second gig was January. So I texted Tony going, who I am, blah, blah, blah, can I do a spot at the gig? And he goes, yeah, we'll put you down for whatever, like January 8th, whatever it was like, and it's like a seven minute spot. So I went in and did that. I think I did like, I'd say I did four minutes, but it was good four minutes. Good. And that upped your confidence?

22:39And then I was like, all right, we're in here, like, do you know what I mean? So yeah, yeah. And I just kind of, I just really got into it like do you know what I mean How long have you been working as a comedian until the point where this kind of little phenomenon of D4 guy But the D4 thing only's happened like probably a year ago a year and a half ago or something That's right How long so 20 years Yeah Yeah yeah yeah But I wasn't like Hang on let's get down to brass tacks here So 20 years working as a comedian Full time Probably I'd say maybe five years of that I wasn't full time like do you know what I mean Okay Were you earning a living as a comedian Ah yeah You're earning a living I don't I don't drink I don't smoke I don't Yeah So in other words Yeah Fairly Very frugal Fairly frugal But I was surviving like do you know what I mean So yeah Living in Dublin Yeah I was living with my mum's house Yeah Okay But still Do you mind me asking Like you're a comedian Yeah Living at home with mum You are actually good at what you do Yeah You're hungry for more work You're trying Yeah It is a lucky game as well 100 % a lot of life is about look don't you know everybody knows that and the more I see it the more I believe it oh yeah some people get it really early some people get it yeah some people don't get it and if you keep knocking on the door you have a better chance of getting it it's a mathematical thing yeah but like what did your mum feel?

24:00she was grand like yeah no she was good like my mum passed away about four years no she's passed away but she was grand my mother was great so yeah my mum was very funny I'd always have a laugh at my mother like do you know what I mean so she was funny gas crack how about your dad yeah he was I think he was a bit more serious obviously because he had four kids and he was trying to okay but like yeah my mum would I would have been very much kind of like always not jazz hands but I'd always be having the crack like you know what I mean so yeah we very like very liked each other a lot oh yeah we loved each other oh of course like yeah yeah see my dad passed away like my dad passed away over 20 years ago like so yeah okay so you were able to actually have the crack with your mum oh yeah yeah So in other words, she believed in your spirit.

24:44Yeah, like my mother was like... Like she wasn't saying to you, look Rory, we've reached a head now. You need to get a fucking job. No, no, no, she'd never be like that. Do you know what's weird though? I'd be very much... If I get any bit of encouragement, I'll go with it. Do you know what I mean? I would just kind of like... If I hear something that I think... I go, that's positivity. That's something that I should listen to and I should do. Do you know what I mean? like I remember doing a new axe competition in Dublin years and years ago and I think I got to the semi-finals or something like that and and I was like I was pretty I was only starting out so you're pretty new like do you know what I mean but I remember my mother going to be and I didn't go through to the final or whatever and I remember my mother going to well you're not going to give up now like you're not going to you're not going to stop now and I was just going I wasn't anyway do you know what I mean but it's it's even the small things that someone would say to you that you'd go well I'm not they're definitely not going to now.

25:41Do you know what I mean? So you can just keep moving on like so. Right. Okay. And then, so then you're making a living. Yeah. You're happy enough. You love comedy. You don't drink or smoke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're committed to this art. Yeah. You are a craftsman. This is it. You are in your craft. Yeah, yeah. You're studying other people who are good at their craft. Yeah, yeah. Are you ever in your own mind going, I mean, presumably you like your material. Yeah. Presumably you see that your material is getting good reactions to the crowds, albeit small crowds, you're playing to mainly. Yeah, yeah.

26:13And do you ever go then, do you ever have a thought in your mind going, okay, how do I, what are they doing that I'm not doing? Or is it just luck? Were you able to talk to yourself in that way? Or did you go, I'm just, I just haven't had that moment yet where I've been able to get lucky. Yeah, I don't really, I guess so, like, but I think, I don't really know actually. I was just always going and going and going. Like, do you know what I mean? I was never kind of like, I was just always trying to do more stuff you know I was trying to put more stuff out work, write, gig do you know what I mean so I was kind of just concentrating on what I was doing like do you know what I mean obviously you see other people getting people get successful very quick or people you know everyone gets different sort of avenues of which way they're going to go Would you ever feel like so for example comedy is albeit kind of an art or a quasi art it's also a very competitive environment Oh it is yeah Would you ever feel like how the fuck to that guy.

27:09Oh yeah, that's just human nature, isn't it? Of course, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm every bit as good as that person. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. You know, but I think like, I think if you see somebody who has got, they've just got a break, do you know what I mean? Like they might be, they could be as good as you or better than you, but literally they just got a break. What does that mean? They got a break. Or they got an opportunity, do you know what I mean? But I think, you know, you keep, especially now with social media and stuff like that, You just need to keep producing stuff. You need to keep working.

27:42You need to put stuff out there. Do you know what I mean? So in a way, we'll get to this in a second, but social media in a way suited you because you are already working a lot. Absolutely. It was perfect. Do you know what I mean? There's no gatekeeper. There's no one going, oh, we don't want that. Stuff you're doing doesn't really suit Instagram. Do you know what I mean? When did it first occur to you to pick up your phone and do a social media video? Yeah, I don't know. I tell you, I had a YouTube channel for ages the minute I started doing stand up I was putting out videos now on YouTube and stuff like that and there were videos of you as Rory yeah yeah just doing stand up and then I was kind of like I think the phenomenon took off really didn't of people it did during lockdown in particular people doing camera face to camera talking about anything anything that's going on in their lives like if someone you know I know lads that were some guy was talking about his daughter's eyebrows and it blew up do you know what I mean yeah yeah talking about you know what I mean so I just sort of so then I was just kind of going okay that's quite interesting then I would just talk about like the hotels I'd be staying and stuff like that like you'd be staying in pretty grim hotels like to camera oh yeah like I do a video about the travel lodge or something like that you know what I mean and and they kind of started getting a bit of you know did they yeah they get a bit of traction then maybe what else would I talk yeah I did some stuff like I did videos about just like voice notes people leaving me voice notes yeah and that went that went viral that went super viral oh did it yeah yeah just the just a I don't know why anyone would leave anyone a voice note no there is a lot of humour in that idea yeah like do you know what I mean it's like I said it was like like it's like ringing someone it's like sending someone a text and they turn up at your house but it's also like now that I think of it it's also extremely passive aggressive oh it's incredible it's also expecting a one way conversation that nobody else can speak back to I'm just going to keep speaking to you and you are going to keep listening and I've had people send me voice notes that I'm not even a texting relationship with like do you You know what I mean?

29:37I don't even know how you go. Because with Instagram, people can't send you voice notes. I was just going, is this person for real? Do they honestly think I'm going to go, I've never met this person and it's a 90 second voice note. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm going to go, hold on a minute now. I think we could get to know each other here. Yeah, okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. So like, I was going to repost the video that I did about voice notes and put it on my page going, listen, if you send me a voice note, it's not happening like. Okay. So that's why, that's why, my, border like yeah so that was then you talking about different things yeah yeah yeah and but I used to talk a lot about about kind of like in an ironic way about sport about I remember doing a video about I think Australia won the Ashes or they did something but they did it kind of like I think they they cheated or they did something I was putting up a video going how dare them do that yeah that's a disgrace yeah us English people would never do that and that kind of that got a better traction as well like do you know what I mean so And you were taking the character of an English person?

30:37Yeah, I wasn't taking a voice. It was just, I was being pro-English and being, in an ironic way. Okay. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Which not everybody gets, like, do you know what I mean? If you start doing videos about, I did a video about a football team before I took it down, like the soccer, I wouldn't go down that route. Like, that's true. They come at you hard, like. The tribalism. Yeah, yeah. But, and then it was, I think, I just started doing stuff about the Six Nations. And I did stuff about the Six Nations about, the games itself and I was very pro Leinster and sort of like I'd be taking the piss out of the Munster do you know what I mean the D4 guy started as a Leinster supporter 100 % like yeah yeah yeah and it was just kind of like yeah and then with the schools rugby as well I'd be kind of I'm aware of that as well obviously because I went to Turner College and it's huge I don't know schools rugby is massive oh I understand yeah it's massive so I was just doing you know videos about that and then it just kind of went from there like do you know what I mean there was a period of time that there was so much going on I think like the you had like the Six Nations you had the you had the schools rugby there was a whole lot of and when did Leinster when did Leinster guy become D4 guy and were there a couple of videos that kind of jumped jumped yeah do you know what do you know what it was I spend a lot of time right in Dublin airport travelling right and Dublin airport is a nightmare.