Russell Howard talks comedy tours, TV shows and tough audiences

0:00The Mario Rosenstock Podcast with On Ice. Ireland's premium ice skating experience where winter memories are made. Visit onice.ie. Go Loud. Sounds better with us. Coming up on this episode of the Mario Rosenstock Podcast. You're going to go on The Late Late Show tonight. Yeah. And you're going to go on Patrick Kielty. Well done, Harry. Tell us about your Irish roots. He's probably going to ask you about your Irish roots. So let's get this out of the... Will, straight away... I have none. Great. Yeah, yeah. Thank God you don't. They wanted to ask me straight away. I'll tell you what I will confess to, though.

0:35I wish I spoke like you people. My God. I just think it just makes everything musical. It's perfect for comedy. There's a dance to it that makes it more. It's the word choice as well as the accent.

1:00I've been watching Russell Howard on TV for years now. He was a regular fixture on the hugely popular comedy show Mock the Week. He's had his own Netflix specials. And of course, his stand-up clips are all over social media. He's a comedian who has to and has had a history of dealing with all the topicality of the week and wrapping them up in a nutshell. So that's what interested me. So I've always known that he's a very intelligent and funny fellow. But what I didn't realise is what a great conversationalist he is. He was over in Ireland to promote his new tour. And on a trip like that, you're literally going from studio to studio and talking to dozens of people you've never met from dawn till dusk.

1:32It can be tiring. And sometimes you feel like the life is being sucked from you. because you don't get the person at their best. But from the minute he walked into the Go Loud studio, Russell was interested, energetic and completely engaged in our chat. And I think he really enjoyed it as well. And we ended up straying off into all sorts of different weird and wonderful territory, in my opinion, at least. The way that we talk on British news is a very strange way to report what is happening. Hello, welcome. You know, more war, more horror, more sexual assault. Here's the weather. like it's it's so but it's so kind of detached and formal if anyone should swear it's newsreaders it should be like are you fucking getting this have you seen what's fucking happening again it is illegal to reply to an email to your boss if it's outside working hours and for me that typifies the aussies of like mate i'd love to call you back but it's it's illegal it's five past five so get fucked i would leave the house during the summer holidays at nine my mum wouldn't let me back in the house until five and you know we didn't realize how fortunate we were to have that utterly idyllic world of slowly becoming ourselves and the problem we have now is how can the real world possibly compete with the lure of the phone or the ipad my favorite word of like is Do you know the German word Kummerspeck?

2:58No. Kummerspeck translates to grief bacon. And it's a term for putting on weight after heartbreak. Ah, lovely. Kind of amazing. My full chat with Russell Howard coming up in just a couple of minutes time. But first, it was a big week for me because one of my biggest gift grub characters, Pascal Donoghue, suddenly decided out of the blue to exit stage left. He's resigned. Resigned his cabinet seat. Resigned his ministry. resigned from government entirely. He's going to go to Washington to take up a job as managing director of the World Bank on a reputed salary of over 600 grand a year. Good luck to him.

3:37He was a much admired figure in Irish political circles, whether you were for him or against him. Most people realised that he was a polite and courteous individual who always gave of his best to any task that he had at hand. Needless to say, I came across and intercepted and in fact hacked, if you don't mind, Pascal's voicemails on which many people were wishing him well. You've reached the voicemail of Pascal Dunahoo. Thank you. Please leave a message after the tone. Thank you. Pascal, it's Ivan Yates. Let me be very clear. I don't blame you for getting out of this tip. Ireland has turned into a right pain in the hole.

4:19You can't do anything. So that's clear. Listen, I'm taking a more international approach with my media training services now. So do me a solid and put in a word for me with some of those big wigs over in Washington. That Vance guy. He looks a bit fresh. I could do with a bit of that give him a bit of that Yates media magic. Pascal, it's Matt Cooper here. I know we've had our differences on air, but hoping we can leave all that behind. I'm in a bit of a loose end podcast-wise at the moment. I need to get it sorted fast. Those monthly subscriptions are sorely missed. I need to find another outrageous and controversial co-host.

5:02If you bump into Sean Hannahy or Tucker Carlson or any of those lads, will you put in a word for me? I'll take any of them, even Nick Fuentes. Cal Thomas is on the hunt for me too. Go on. Pascal, this is President Donald J. Trump looking forward to welcoming you to Washington, D.C. I hear you're a smart guy, and we need smart guys over here. They say you know a lot about money, a lot about finance. You know how to massage those fingers. You're a great guy. That's why they call you P. Diddy, P. Diddy Donahoo, and we love P. Diddy. I'll give you a pardon if you get it wrong. Don't worry. We should talk.

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6:16Why not? Take a chance. Enjoy yourself. Breathe in the fresh air. It's exhilarating. It's invigorating. I'm going along myself this season. Grab your tickets now at onice.ie. So comedian Russell Howard is standing by and ready to go. On the same day we recorded our chat, Russell was also going to be appearing on The Late Late Show, which I informed him is actually the longest running chat show in TV history. That got us talking about TV chat shows in general and how much they have changed over the years. Chat shows used to be a lot more, Or, you know, they could be like small and, you know, quite deep and then kind of frivolous in a way that they are kind of all frivolous now.

6:53They're all frivolous. Everything is the Graham Norton show now. Yeah. And it's all kind of like, tell me your story. And what's really interesting, it's against a backdrop of podcasts, which can be deep or frivolous, but they can kind of go where you want. It's interesting that TV has turned into kind of a bit of frivolity all the way. It's all it is and everything is like that dreaded word light entertainment. Yeah, I know. You know what I mean? I know. Kind of like in this sort of modern world who wants the entertainment light? Do you know what I mean? It's like Yeah, but it's like when you're watching Gary M.

7:26Norton or whatever or, you know, Jonathan Ross it's like now we're joined by Celebrity X who's selling their book now we're joined by Celebrity Y who's talking about their film Yeah. But in a way their fans and us can see them in any time we want Yeah. almost. Yeah, but also, I don't know whether this is kind of rose-tinted, but I sort of, from my recollection of when I'd see like Connolly on Parkinson, he wasn't there to flock. Or like Muhammad Ali wasn't there. Do you know what I mean? It just felt like they had. Yeah. But there's definitely a market for a show where people have just nipped in for a chat.

8:01We have one. But I guess that's what podcast. We have one. We have one in Ireland. What? So you know Tommy Tiernan. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tommy, that's the show. and what's very interesting is I was talking about this the other day because it gives such a different side to Tommy but it's and it's not that he's not funny but he's so inquisitive and present in the conversation and he's quasi philosophical as well yeah which he can be when he does stand up but it's it's a real like nice accompaniment to the Tommy Tierney that we would all know do you know what I mean anyway you're going to go on The Late Late Show tonight and you're going to go on Patrick Keelty well done how are you tell us about your Irish roots he's probably going to ask you about your Irish roots so let's get this out of the let's get we'll straight away and if you have none just say it I have none great yeah yeah it's kind of but I think thank God you don't they wanted to ask me straight away it's I'll tell you what I will confess to though I wish I spoke like you people my God I just think you that it just makes everything musical it's perfect for comedy our accent what just and the language around But it's like, it isn't like a man walks into a pub.

9:12It's like your man's in the pub. But do you know what I mean? There's a dance to it that makes it more, it's the word choice as well as the accent. It is. One of the ones I like that we use here all the time, I don't know if it's common in UK culture, is when we're doing reported speech and we're talking about what Russell said to Andy or whatever. so anyway Russell turns around to Andy and Andy turns around to Russell and Russell turns around to him and he says I will in my hole and Andy says turns around and he goes and you're just picturing these two people doing 360s all the time turning on turning on spinning almost Irish people just walking on spinning saucers turning around to each other talking the whole thing but Cockneys do that so do they say he turns around to him Gaze has walked in and there's sound effects as well so it's like a Cockney chap would be like Gaze has walked in slap wallop bang exactly he's looked around I've turned around he's had a look I've had it and then but it's the most gentle way of describing a fight so suddenly we're having a dance which means you've head-bited him and you're out brilliant oh well we're going to have a little bit of a tear-away you know what I mean it's always so gentle a little bit of ballet yeah a little bit of ballet bish bash bosh yeah it's all that scrunch bit of pirouette go on home tiny little bit of a scrunch yeah a bit of a mush and a little bit of a woof Yeah, Bosch is a big word in the UK.

10:35I love Bosch. All of a sudden, you can be famous in England if you eat your tea and say Bosch. Yeah. There's a geezer who does that and he's now on tour. I don't know. I know him. Yeah, and I don't know what the live show is. Put him on. Do you know what? He's eating his dinner and going, oh yeah. I think people, I've seen him on, right? Yeah, he's massive. But he's massive because I think people just like looking at how happy he is with his life. Yes. So he's like, I've got a pint. It's Friday. Bosch. Yeah. And you're there, yeah, that sounds great. Yeah, it's a bit like they've got a thing in Korea called mukbang, which is a lot of people apparently live on their own.

11:09So what they do is, and this was, this I think started in 2015, they live broadcast themselves. And what they have to do, one, they're having their tea, so it's a sense of community, but you have to make noises. So it sounds like it's as pleasurable as possible. So you'd eat it and go, like a proper like 70s camp. I can't remember you. like that and that's in ireland we probably in ireland it would probably be like cheers that's good yeah well it's almost asmr here yeah do you know what i mean it's like little fans yeah i but i think you do that well as well i remember years ago seeing a little old lady selecting a cake in a bakery and i've not seen a lady swear over cake before but it made sense And she was like, oh, I fucking know.

11:54But it was this... Do you know what I mean? Cake porn. Yeah, it was so... But it felt like that is our relationship with cake rather than like the Great British Bake Off, which is like, well, you know, the texture's not quite right. It's a bit like this. You just want a little Irish lady going, oh, fuck it, would you give it here? When can I say soggy bottom? Yeah, but it's all so kind of... Has somebody said soggy bottom yet? Yeah. Rather than like, oh God, it's... Because cake is cake. Like even a bad cake, it's still going in. Do you know what I mean? As if anyone, it would have to be so bad for you to not eat it.

12:26Cake is cake unless you're the day-to-day circa 1990 when cake wasn't cake with one of our favourite comedians, Chris Morris. Cake! Everybody's taking it. And it was in the parliament and everything. Come here, so you have 9 million followers on social media. It's extraordinary. I mean, it's a big number even. It's a big number by any of the standards. And I was thinking, you don't even have to do it. I mean, technically, this is the interesting thing about social media. One could argue you don't even have to do any Late Late Show or any podcast or any radio show. For if 1 % of your followers came to see you, you would do 90 ,000 people in Vicar Street.

13:05Wow. That's 90 Vicar Streets. Yes, I've never figured that out. But then it's fun as well. Do you like promoting? I like going to different countries and doing it. Like, I find, like, I've had the most varied conversations today with Irish broadcasters. It's been brilliant. Like, genuinely, like, everyone feels interesting and interested. And it feels like in, certainly in the UK, it can be a bit kind of... A little robotic. It feels like everyone is worried about losing their job in any second, in case somebody says something that's a bit... You know what I mean? Yeah. It feels like that. Febrile, a bit, the tension.

13:44Yeah, it's like, we could lose our job if... You feel it's a bit looser here? Yeah, do you think? Do you think so? Oh my God, it just feels... Your friend is giving me the big, yeah, absolutely, all the way. But in a really good way, it just... And that's how it... Relaxed. Relaxed and just funny conversations with... Which could go anywhere or... Yeah, well, it was like, I was just on the... What was the name? It was the... Did a morning radio show called The Strawberry Alarm Clock. And I put it to them that that sounds like Irish slang for a lady's period. and but they were but they were fine with it like exactly it's but we all we all had a laugh but it but it sounds like a blow I can't come on sure she's got the strawberry alarm clock in but but that's my point rather than um well we apologise for what missed out you know what I mean it's just like oh that's funny you probably shouldn't have said that but it's funny let's move on it's like rather than that kind of well we apologise if anyone was upset you know it's this I know that this this should we ponder out loud on a national radio at the moment, what the hell does watermelon sugar high stand for anyway with your man?

14:47And then people are like, well you know it really stands for darling. Bish bash bosh. A little bit of a dance. Yeah. I think what's weird about it is that given that we have podcasts we have conversations where people are so themselves and we all have WhatsApp groups ourselves. There is this kind of weird, almost like sometimes broadcasting can be the top of the duck when really where the bottom bit that's all kind of ugly and a bit peculiar but that's the truth of it. The duck is what's going on underneath rather than above and I think I've made my point very clearly. Absolutely. But you know what I mean?

15:23I've just had some lovely funny weird chats. Good. And that's good, Russell but it was interesting what you said about well actually I'm interested that you did say it about the UK because actually I love listening to UK stuff. I listen to like I love UK politics and stuff nearly as much as I love Irish politics, especially in the last 10 years. Yeah. But I would listen to, let's say, LBC quite a lot. Yes. A guy called James O 'Brien. Yes. And he is so, like, he is so sensitive about even saying, so you get a caller, right, and say, so James, I really think the whole thing is a real pile of, no, please, whatever you do, do not say that.

16:05Say what? Were you going to use the S word? Yeah. I mean, he was just petrified. Yeah, yeah, it's funny, isn't it? So Ofcom, obviously, is really hardcore in the UK, where if you say, like, shit or even crap, he says, I'm not sure about that. Yeah. What does one mean? But it's sort of, and again, when you, like, I guess being a stand-up, you're able to just have these conversations and it's fine. Like, and, you know, if you swear occasionally, it kind of helps a joke or if it's on the way to a joke or whatever, but it's not like everyday audio. They sort of protect this audience that I think don't exist.

16:40I don't think people are genuinely upset by words. Not only are they not upset by words, there's so many bad things going on in the world, Russell, that they're getting lesser and lesser upset by words. Less upset by words. I mean, there really are bad things happening in the world. You could argue the way that we talk on British news is a very strange way to report what is happening. You know, hello, welcome. You know, that strange voice that we have. you know more war more horror more sexual assault here's the weather like it's it's so but it's so kind of detached and formal it's you know surely the place it's an unnatural way almost to communicate that kind of well if anyone should swear it's newsreaders it should be like are you fucking getting this have you seen what's fucking happening again it's like do you know what i mean it's sort of yeah so i think or even before they read it that they're there yeah they just look at and in Ukraine.

17:36Oh, for fuck's sake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You fucking... That's the split. Sorry, listen, you don't need to hear this shit. You don't need to hear this shit. He's dropped a fucking another bomb, the little bastard. That's it, sideways news. And they never, they just always... Yeah, well, you see, this is interesting because we're veering now into Russell Howard territory because your TV show is, or the TV show that you were doing, which I used to watch all the time, was very topical, like up to the minute topical. I'm just like kind of thinking now is almost like, well, I had two questions for you.

18:13One is that satire, okay? There's a bit of an absence of satire on UK television. Oh, it doesn't exist, yeah. Have you thought about that? Yeah, I think what's odd is so like Mock the Week went, The Mash Report went, to those, you know, my show went uh so you're kind of left with have i got news for you that's the only show but even in kind of even that feels very you know i can't remember the last time a clip from have i got news for you went viral right on socials where it just connected with such yeah you know power it just feels like a very established show of like old faces that could quite easily be on other shows just coming in and you know um it's but i guess it just exists online you know and it's quicker and if the thing happens you get people that can just it does but like i would have thought something like you know for something along the lines of bremner bird and fortune yeah would have been very important around now or more to the point spitting image circa i think spitting image is on but that's on youtube isn't it so it's it's not people aren't seeing it well yeah well the interesting thing is if youtube is for young people then you're right they're not going to go to that kind of i guess there is there's it feels like there's an absence maybe of uh kind of grown-up satire but i would imagine there's a lot on and i know there is a lot online do you know what i mean but i would have thought the most parodyable people in the world sure have been goris johnson and nigel farage yeah yeah i will exactly and but you know someone like tommy robinson in the uk but in the year there's a lot of yeah i mean because he's like farage's ahead in the polls in the UK.

19:55And it feels so interesting because 10 years ago, he was a punchline and now he's somehow, you know, copied the Trump book and has no policies other than, well, get rid of all of them. That seems to be it. And a pint of Bishop's finger there, darling. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's it. It's kind of like he likes... Insert new funny ale name here. Yeah, but he likes a pint of the fag and he's one of us, isn't he? But it's very... I kind of wonder sometimes if Mark Maron, the American, had a line where he basically said that the American left had annoyed the average American into fascism. And I kind of think there's something to be said for that as well.

20:40In terms of like, if you were to get into... Pissed them off, yeah. I think if you were to get into kind of like in-depth satire, it's like sometimes the finger wagging of the left has kind of cocked up a lot of things. Do you know what I mean? Whereas I think... Don't tell me I'm stupid. Yeah, but it's that thing of somebody like, I guess the only... I often wonder if someone from the left had that kind of Teflon approach and said, yeah, I said it, what do you think? You know, whereas the left, it feels, are always like, well, you know, and eating itself. I know. And whereas something like Farage will never apologize.

21:16And after a while, it would appear that that becomes beguiling to people because it's a similar thing to Trump. You'll never apologize. So, you know, I'm sort of chasing my thoughts here a bit, but I think what's very interesting is we have an obsession in the UK. If someone changes their mind, the papers and the media will destroy them, and it's like, oh, flip-flop, U-turn, you know, and you change your mind. When actually it's, well, I receive new information, and I'm now changing my mind. But it's become this weird thing where you have to be concrete and you have to stick with, but everyone is in a permanent state of becoming.

21:55Exactly. We have this kind of weird sort of problem in politics where as soon as you change your mind, it's like, flip, flop, U-turn, change your mind, you know, that you are... That's right. We have the exact same thing in Ireland. Yeah. I mean, a politician is caught saying something and they go, well, sorry, can I interrupt you there? Because last year you said the complete opposite thing. And this is supposed to be the worst thing that can happen to the politician. I mean, the idea of cognitive dissonance, the idea of, for example, believe in holding two thoughts in your head at the same time.

22:22It doesn't seem to be allowed for politicians. You believe in something and you have to believe it forever, even though events might change and information might change. I mean, I would change my mind if something like that happened. What's wrong with changing your mind? And then it becomes this thing of like, well, hate the game, not the player, because there's a brilliant quote that I find myself saying all the time, and it's like, tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance. And it kind of feels like that is that quote applies to so many things where everything is binary and tribal and nothing is everyone is like if you take politics for example everyone's a little bit right or a little bit left you no one is one thing completely you know what i mean you'll have it's a bit like a buffet you take things from different areas and yet we live in an era where you can only be one thing so apps are not in comedy it's kind of like are you an edgelord or are you kind of like uh you know uh what's an edgelord well you know someone it's like a comic that is deliberately kind of oh provocative yeah probably and yeah yeah and that thing of kind of like you know i hate that word but like anti-woke and all that you know and they create this kind of fictitious audience like oh they won't like that will they the wokes won't like that nobody cares it's like you know you can say whatever you want in stand-up particularly live stand-up and the audience that's the beauty of it that this perfect jury if they laugh is it your favorite they don't they don't is it your favorite thing to do yeah because it it's it's like from an entertainment point of view it's so um immediate and it's and and audiences have no idea good audiences let us be funny that it's such a communal activity that they they g us on and move us further and they help the lines appear because they've created an atmosphere where you can kind of be your best self.

24:15And then when audiences are a bit stiff, then you rely on the material and the show to get you through. But you can have those moments with stand-up where you can genuinely laugh like mates. You know when you're lost in laughter with your pals? And there's no laugh like it. It's that you love them, they love you. you're lost together in this kind of beautiful, safe, sort of almost like societal orgasm. And you get that sometimes with a crowd where you're like locked in this silly thing. It means nothing to somebody outside of that laugh because that's the fascinating thing. When you're laughing with strangers, sorry, with friends, it feels like you're never going to stop.

24:54But if you as a stranger joined in with that laughter, it would end immediately. It's kind of wild. Do you know what I mean? If you saw a bunch of people laughing, you just ran over and went, ha ha ha ha ha dumb isn't that weird well yet at the same time if you're in Vicar Street you are with a thousand strangers and you are laughing with strangers and that is again and that is in its sense as well very reassuring but that's one bit you've managed to create that sort of feeling with pals yeah you know and I think Vicar Street like I've never done the arena here because if you've been lucky enough to play Vicar Street I mean if there's a better room for comedy in the world I don't know where it is There's two great rooms in Dublin.

25:34Okay. So Vicar Street would be one. This is strictly for stand-up comedy because in Vicar Street you have the dynamic as well where the little tables are. Little tables. People can have their little pint in front of them and you get about 1 ,100 people into that room and that is a great, that creates a huge dynamic. The other one is the Olympia. The Olympia is a Victorian theatre in the centre of Dublin and it has three sort of things and they're right on you. So you can see the whites of the eyes in people's faces who were up there. And that also is a spit-in-the-floor rock and roll venue. So when people come into comedy, they feel almost the DNA of the building has noise.

26:12Yes, yes, yes. So there's another theatre just across the road called The Gaiety, also a Victorian, but that's a theatre. Yes. So people, when they go in there, they almost feel, I must behave myself. Yeah, yeah. It's funny, isn't it? He's very funny, but I won't laugh that loud. Yes. Yeah, it's funny. Like you kind of... Buildings have memory. They do. And it's like, so if you do like the Sydney Opera House, it's, I mean, so beautiful, but it's too... Stiff. Well, it's just too nice. It's just, you kind of... People don't want to disturb the scaffolding. And also, you know how Aussies love their opera.

26:46So it's just so... The barber of Melbourne. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I love the barber of Melbourne. It was Melbourne, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. They're just... But it's, I know what you mean. It's like... They do have memories. certain rooms create certain atmospheres and it's although what can happen sometimes is so if you're in a room like the the london palladium is a good example of the albert hall where they do create that sense of like bloody hell we're somewhere cool you know what i mean and it even though you wouldn't necessarily think it would work it really does russell when you go around um let's say well we could call it the whole world then um would you do you perceive a difference in the type of audiences that you get that sort of let's say is one audience maybe one region a little racier than another or one another like for example is let's say talk about england north and south if we can break those up that might be a bit barbaric but but but let's say you're in sunderland one night but you're in um guilford yes the next night is do you find any difference in in your audiences yeah it was massive talk to me well like like those kind of commuter belt you know around the m25 they can sometimes be i mean they can be fantastic but they also there can be a slight kind of people have just gotten from work it's all kind of like there was a brilliant irish comic actually a guy called jack cowley and he always used to say it so beautifully of bristol so he would say he'd go i love gigging in bristol because when you're in london they're like right be funny that was funny right i'm laughing but you better be thinking of another joke whilst I'm laughing.

28:27Whereas in Bristol, I was always like, oh, it'll be funny any second now. It'll be funny when he needs to be. And you know, that certain areas have a... I don't know, like they're just a wee bit more relaxed and a bit... Are there people who are laughing at you just the moment you walk on stage, even before you open your mouth and you're going, Jesus. Yeah, well, sometimes, but there's more of a lunacy in certain places than there are in... Do you know what I mean? if people are quite prim and proper and you know they've got a nice job they're not going to let it all hang out whereas if you're kind of you know if you've got a few bangers in the crowd then it's going to be slightly do you know what I mean if you're doing a gig in like Cardiff it's going to be fantastic and you know there'll be a few sort of slightly strange people shouting stuff out and that's fantastic you know but you know in Guildford it might be a bit more like well that was a bit much actually you know so it's sort of that really but it's still fun because you so in a sense you're saying Guildford would be quite, let's say, reserved, middle class, well-educated, busy, busy, busy.

29:28I have an important job myself. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not sure that's the thing for joking. You know, but once you're under the skin, it's fine. But, you know, it's in other parts of the country, it just is fine. And then what's interesting, you go to like America. They're just wild. They're so happy that they've got no shame. They give you a standing ovation when you walk on in America. So like even in like a small comedy club, They're so happy to, and they've got no shame whatsoever at admitting that they like you. In a way that an English crowd were like, right, well, you better be funny.

30:02Do you know what I mean? It's like, oh my God, this guy, I love this guy. You know, they've, and it's so great. So it's the freedom of expression, of course, in America. Do you know what it is? It's the idea, I am here, I am part of this great plan called the United States, and I will express myself. Yeah, yeah, maybe it is that. It's just kind of, but there's no, I don't know. It means audiences are great. Australian audiences are great. So in Europe, that's a wild one. Tell me about Australia briefly, Russell. So are they kind of outgoing as well? Yeah. They give you. Oh, they're great. So they're just, you know, big laughers.

30:38Go for it, mate. Go for it. Yeah. And similar to the Irish crowds, I would say, it's just all kind of like, you know, it just, it feels like in Australia, you know, They go to work and then as soon as they've got a law in Australia and it's called the right to not reply law. So you will get fined or it is illegal to reply to an email to your boss if it's outside working hours. And for me, that typifies the Aussies of like, mate, I'd love to call you back, but it's illegal. It's five past five. So get fucked. you know they just have they've got a good work-life balance do you know what i mean and they're just kind of they work to work and then they're out yeah they're kind of and if you live they love a drink they love sport they're just and if you live in a place that has like beautiful outdoors and sunshine like that you you want to be using it yeah and they're all i remember seeing these kids and they were probably about 12 and they've got that kind of lovely you know that kind of sea that the blondes you get from the sea and the sun it's got that kind of almost white They were just like 12, and they just had their little wetsuits on and their little kind of cute little surfboards.